The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1410 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Dan Orlovsky, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap of week 2 of the NFL season as they go In the Trenches with AQ Shipley and look at the best defensive back play with Everything DB. Joining the show to chat about his biggest QB takeaway’s from the first two weeks of the season is 12 year NFL veteran, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky. Later, 3x DPOY, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, future Hall of Famer, Houston Texans Ring of Honor member, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about the Steelers run defense, what trends he’s noticing around the league right now, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this white Wednesday, September 17, 2025, this program begins right now. Football! It is magical, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. Today is going to be a special one, because not only we're going to look back on the weekend that was in ball, but also the weekend that is right around a corner. We've got a lot of big storylines developing. We've got a lot of big conversations today.

Dan Rolovsky will join us in about 20 minutes or so. I called him this morning. He was doing a bodyweight workout, and then he had kettlebells. He was doing hang clean's work. He dropped down to a couple burpees. I had wildly short shorts on, had my FaceTime phone on the ground. Oh, bad grandpa. I thought I was going to see Dan O's, Dan O.

And it was kind of distracted. Sure. But I didn't, just so we all understand. His quad, the bones attached to his hips. Yep. okay he's got these tiny little legs they were kind of blogging the entire but he was doing he was getting half we're talking hoodie up full sweat the burpees were very intense I mean he hit the he was hitting the ground okay hitting the ground going up and then he grabbed his kettle belt did a clean

and I was like what is this every day you know and then yes and I'm obviously interrupting he's breathing and I'm like 12 20 and he has can't even say and I'm like I just hang up and I'm like what song was playing there you think that I interrupted was that a song Was it somebody, a life coach, maybe, talking him through that? Yeah, the wiggles. Was it like jocco yelling at it right there? Because he was getting after it. It was still dark outside.

I mean, you're talking about, like, I didn't know Dano had it like yet. Wow. It's got three kids, though, I guess he's going to have to get after it in the morning. And he also has a model. He's a model. He's a model now. He's got to get after it. We appreciate that.

But Dano will join us in about 18 minutes or so. He called the game on Monday night. I'd excited to see how that all went. And also his thoughts on some of these quarterbacks and also a lot of quarterback injuries. Yes. It has been official. So let's go to talk to the table at Boss Conner and that, Ty Schmidt.

Who just got Rudolph? Fifth starting quarterback already out for at least the game, it seems like. Yeah, Justin Fields officially out, concussion, Tyrod Taylor, starting end. There were reports this morning about Marriota possibly being a go on Sunday instead of Jaden Daniels. And that adds to J.J. McCarthy, obviously we've learned about that also goes to Purdy. Okay, so we've already had that situation with Mac Jones. And then Joey Burrow out for 12 weeks or whatever. It's going to be with the broken toe.

So 32 teams, five starting quarterbacks already about to miss games, or I've already missed games. So that's kind of been a story of like two years ago, the NFL season, was all the quarterbacks got hurt. We had like 90-some quarterbacks play or something like that. Is that going to be the story of this year? Early trends say yes, but also we've got more points. We've got a lot of magic happening here early in the NFL season. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. We got everything DB, Good D, Bad D coming today.

How were the defenses around the NFL? Was it easier or harder to find Good D? Or was it easier or harder to find that, that bag, D? That quick D. That give up quick D. We'll pause. We'll pause for. It's solved, bitch.

Shorty. But looking for defense. It's always good to find it. But sometimes you just kind of stumble upon a theme for the week. So we got a little theme for this week. Oh, I can't wait. We also have a theme in another segment that we absolutely love. And that's every Wednesday we get an opportunity to not only catch up,

but J.J. Watt, who'll be in a second hour. Sure. His Espaniel team. Whoa, whoa. And the morning, they drink coffee in the afternoons, it's rum. And at night, I think they win. Yeah. Almost every one.

I mean, they literally, this third in La Liga. Oh, it's top of the table. Behind Rial and Barcelona. What? You've heard of them? Yeah. J.J.'s Español C. Number three in there.

Yeah, that is. And then Burnley lost a heartbreaker against Liverpool. Terrible. Last minute. Liverpool never walked alone. the entire time. They got some interesting kits and a billion dollar investment from Adidas and they got a new coach

and boy, they're top of the table. Let's go to one half of the hammer Don! Cowboys Bubba Gompino. Liverpool's walking alone this year or no? Top of the table right now Champions League. Today we play a... Oh, geez, that's bad. Big game against Athletico

Madrid. My apologies. But Burnley has played a lot better this season. They're fighting with the very good teams. I think they will stay up this season. Okay, and that's the conversation we have had on this day's show about Burnley. Correct. And Espaniel. How long into the season

are we? It never ends. Five games. Five games from the end or from... Five games just started. What? What season is? What season is this one? This one's the big one? This is the League of Premier League just started.

But what were they doing? That was the Club World Cup. 100 million I heard Yeah they won It's a hell of preseason Burnley won the Cup Chelsea got 100 million for winning I don't think they got invited

Yeah they didn't make Well some of those teams gave up 25 goals That's a good point Some of those teams are also really pissed Because a lot of their players Are getting hurt early in the season now Oh yeah they've been playing all year round Yeah they never stop

Which is kind of There's a new Super Duper Cup Coming around a corner and soccer all the time So we'll talk to JJ Watt about American football And also congratulate him on Aspagnol and Burnley doing well But the segment on Wednesdays that we all get excited about also has a theme today. And it's a word theme.

Ladies and gentlemen, the host of Akew's Takeaways and in the trenches, top five perform no lines. Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, player coach with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Also a member at one point of the Arizona Cardinals, for now he is the color commentator, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Philadelphia Eagles. Ladies and gentlemen, he had short arms, the only man to ever play offensive line in the NFL with under 30-inch arms. He is Akees Shipley That would be a huge True Journeyman

Whipio Hall of Famer Penn State Cotest Definitely a member of that Firm believer in Penn State What do you think I think? I think they're pretty good

They better get it figured out though That's what I think What does that mean? What do you're on the feed? I mean you're playing Florida International and all these cupcakes early That's a good program Yeah you're struggling

It's 14 to nothing No we need 65 to nothing That's what Ohio State That's what Oregon that's what the good ones are doing. I'd like to see it. I know he's trying to get in a little bit of death. Ohio State was in a battle with Ohio.

Until Navarro got hurt. And then Ohio State pulled away. It's still early in the season, man. Still early in a season. Do you know what's happening next week? What's happening next week? Penn State, Oregon. Not early anymore.

We're going. Time to go. Oregon, now that is a team that has just been pounding teams. Yeah. Oregon's been doing it. Also, Nebraska's been pounding teams. So congrats to Penn State. Let's go win a national championship, huh?

Hell, yeah. Come on. There's a chance that Penn State is actually the home. I'm a song of Politelli next year, okay, especially because the, I believe the bidding is going to get into that, and Drew Aller will be in the NFL at that point. We assume maybe the number one overall pick, depending upon how the year goes for him in this entirety. But Penn State's always going to be in it for the foreseeable future because they have more money than everybody else. No, Oregon has more money, maybe. Michigan has more money. They actually have Larry Ellison,

a richest guy in the world as one of their back. Oracle, one of the guys, one of the companies that just bought TikTok, which is like the biggest sale in the history of sales or whatever. Now backs Michigan significant others in Michigan, so they were just able to collect that, everything like it. Texas has three different funds, four different funds, dumping money in there, they say, Penn State's got 1A.D, who has a phone call to the largest base of CEOs. They were able to raise $700 million just to rebuild stadium. And oh, yeah, that's going to happen quicker than ever because they're hiring every Amish person I assume in Pennsylvania to build up that as quickly as they're going to be able to build that up to.

It's going to become the biggest place. And then they can get any athlete, any player, any sport right now. Penn State is in a golden era potentially, right? Do you not feel that way? Absolutely. They've got the number one hockey player. They're killing it in every sport. I mean, they're top 10 in every sport in the fall right now.

Yeah, I was just going to say, like, you talk about the CEOs, like this continues to happen. The players that are then going to be alumni at Penn State and, like, Drew Aller, maybe, is the number one overall pick by the end of the year. McKenna, the hockey player, is for sure, no matter what, going to be the number one overall. But he's the next, you know, one as they deem. I don't think anybody that's ever met. the Penn State person is necessarily pumped that they're gonna be good at every sport going forward. I don't like that one bit.

I don't know what that means. You know what that means. You know what that means. I mean, they're switching to Adidas next year. Yeah, well, that's a big time deal though. We've read about some of the other deals that are happening around the place. Feels like people making bad deals all the time.

Adidas is in the game though. Yeah. Hey, Dias, we're open for conversation. We love what you're doing for sport. Love it. All day after you're about sports, baby. Boom. Audie Dawsonheimer, of course.

But Penn Stateers, you know what that means. That means, if you guys get good, you're going to get loud. And for good reason, your teams are seemingly all in. Great campus, great university, great school and great sports will be great news for all of you. But let's talk about the NFL. Hey, Kuch, what were your big takeaways from week two? Was there anything that we missed maybe or things that you need to emphasize a little bit more? Well, running game is down. We can clearly see that.

My eyes have not deceived me as I check the stats today. It is hard right now. It is hard right now to find offensive lines playing really well across the league. But we got five good ones later today. Okay, on average, the top rushing teams gained almost 30 fewer yards per game in 2025 compared to 2024. That's a lot of yards. Three first downs just by itself, let alone those are coming at like a four-yard clip normally, so that's a lot of plays. That's crazy that it's down. What's that mean?

We're not blocking anymore? We're letting the quarterbacks kind of do their thing a little bit. Well, let's echo Coach B.A's sentiment in the fact that we don't play in the preseason anymore. So defenses will always be ahead. Whenever you start training camp, it's very similar to the first week of the season. And when you look at defenses across the league, I think over the last couple of years, we've seen rushing yards go up. We've seen the fullbacks climb. We've seen running games go up.

We've seen a lot more cover two, right? Play bend but don't break defense. Now we are attacking on first down. We don't want to get behind the change. I like that. I like everything about it. I like that the sport is potentially evolving. We thought it was going to be a ground and pound season.

We thought I was going to go back to old school football strictly because the Philadelphia Eagles one. So that was almost like a green light to everybody else. hey, this is how you build a team. It's much like when Steph Curry and Golden State win, okay, everybody sees that and they're like, oh, you can win doing this. So every human on earth got a jumper. It's very similar in the NFL. If somebody sees success, they go, oh, that is what we're supposed to do.

That is what wins. Let's do that. That's just natural for people to do. But it seems like that's not the case. Rushing might not be as good as we thought it was going to be. Yeah, exactly. I think so, too. Especially with the amount of athletic quarterbacks that can run too.

I mean, I feel like most of the quarterbacks get like 25, 30 yards when they take off and run most of the ones that aren't pocket quarterback. So that's very surprised, especially to start the season. These linemen stink? Whoa. Kind of sounds like. They probably are soft? I think the game plans have changed. If you're running game is good, your entire playbook is open, right?

And I think if you look, just look at Cleveland this past week. Not a good team. Obviously, heard you guys all talking about it yesterday. The Browns will be the Browns, right? But not all of us said that. Derek Henry, 23 yards, and Lamar Jackson had 13. So they're stopping the run. Now, you also I'll stop the pass.

Well, you know, like quarterbacks are playing better, I feel like. And like the understats have still been hitting, so I'm not saying there's a bunch of points, but like Russ is already thrown for 450. I don't know the stats, but I'm assuming it wasn't two weeks in last year where there was a 400-yard passer. Dak, he threw all over the yard against the Cowboys too, I mean, or against the Giants in that game as well. And then even if you go back to week one, there are multiple 300-yard passers.

Think about Rogers. Rogers' week one. I mean, that was Rogers from four years ago. We saw on week one against the Jets and he had four touchdown. So it's almost as if all the teams are with that mentality, hey, we're just going to stop the run and see what happens. Now all the quarterbacks are like, okay, sweet. You got a spotlight back on quarterbacks getting a man-to-man coverage

or single coverages or anything like that? Yeah, and like even just like the... It's the rebirth of the quarterback being able to be the option for an offense. And the one thing that, you know, in preseason that might not matter as much in games is that connection with your number one wide receiver. like I wonder if you look across the board as well how the number one receivers are doing because it feels as though a lot of them have been you know pretty dominant thus far all right let's get to your takeaway shall we uh rushing down around the league we don't like that

hopefully we see a wrong game come back yeah little grind and pine out there uh what else do you think we should talk about more yes daniel jones blitz conqueror wow love it see the word conqueror there with an o r at the end that might be a theme here how many of those words This, enough is what we would say. And I'm happy that you brought this up, because B.A. actually recorded this in the Thunderdome immediately after the show ended. He sat down, may or may not have had a little glass of vitamins with one big ice in it. He took a couple of sips, and he said, we didn't even talk about Danny Dimes and recorded this for us today. Great show today.

We are not talking about Danny Dimes. What he did against the Blitz was amazing. Denver is a hell of a defense. This guy kicked their ass. Okay. So that's what B.A. thinks. Acuch, is that exactly what your point is as well? And is

Danny Dam's on pace to be the MVP? Are the Colts on pace to win the Super Bowl? Is this the best team around the NFL at the moment, or are they at least in the same exact rushmore of teams that have been so damn dominant and good? Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator of the

Denver Broncos, loves to bring the Blitz early and often, and they did that. And against the Blitz, 268 passing yards, 117 passer rating for Danny Dimes. It's incredible. It's incredible. If you look at him here, he's looking all around. He's trying to see what's going

on. Looking left, looking right, trying to survey the field. Where's the blitz? Send the line right. Jonathan Taylor coming back. Pick it up. Deep ball. Down the right side line to Pierce. Hey, shut up Pierce, by the way. Filthy. Yeah. It's all he does. Pierce may get big time. Places is great. But you're saying what Danny Dimes did is he understood

will it's coming. Send the line one way. Send Jonathan Taylor the other way. Unprotected. Got to get it out quick. Alex Pierce has a go in single coverage out there. Let me take a shot. All that's happening in processing while Danny Diamond's looking at the defense? It's all happening in a blink of an eye. And whenever you talk about week one of the preseason, who was the

quarterback? Anthony Richardson. He got a blitz that you're taught on day one. Didn't know if he was protected or not. Wasn't a blitz? They weren't bringing it blitz. Oh yeah. It was a blitz. And he didn't know if he was protected or not. Boom. How do we get there? He got hurt on this. He got

hurt on this. There it is. Bruce. You got hurt on this. We could on that note, though. On that the entirety. Anthony Richardson has played such a limited amount of games in comparison to Danny Dimes. I mean, you're talking high school, college, into the NFL, big learning curve, big upside. We are still pulling for him to reach his potential because his potential would be great for the NFL. But what Danny Dimes allegedly has been doing since the very beginning is understanding what the offense is and also understanding what the defense is. B.A. brought this up about how a lot of the young guys nowadays can't dissect what the hell is going on in front of them defensively because they've never been asked to do it.

It's not really their fault. It's not really the guys. They've literally never done something. So whenever they show up at the highest level with the best disguises, the best, everything, the fastest guys, all of a sudden, now they're being asked like, hey, you've got to figure this out. And then once you figure that out, now you're going to make your decision. And by the way, if they do this, your decision goes from this to this.

If they do this, your decision goes from this to this. If they do this, you need to look here, then there, then there. And all that's happening in real time with people flying faster than they've ever flown. And then also, it doesn't take into account when your offense alignment gets beat. So now you've got to figure out what it is. You've got to get out of the way. And now you've got to dissect which option is the best in real time. What if one, two, are covered and the offensive line messes up?

Happens. Now you've got to avoid three things in the middle of a play and also look things and get to your third person. The amount of mental stress, that is, let alone physical stress, because you've got to be able to make all those moves, plus a sense of feel that you have to have, that this is all happening in real time. To get there, you've got to play a lot of ball. I don't think you just kind of show up on day one like that. And I think this is the biggest reason why, you know, college offenses have changed completely.

College offenses now are utilizing their weapons that they have, the most athletic guy on the field. And we'll just continue with Anthony Richardson in this conversation. Anytime he's been on any sporting, anything. He's been a basketball court, most athletic guy on there. He went down at tennis court, if you want to, most athletic guy on there. Football field, most athletic guy. So his entire life, all the coaches see a lot of success because they got the most athletic guy. It's like, we need to keep this very simple.

If that guy comes here, you're going there. There. That guy stays there. You're handing it off. And then once the offense just gets like basic and it's basic and it's basic, but it has success. The coaches, and I think the other people around him at those levels are like, why would we? This is successful. He was the number four overall pick because of that stuff. But then once it all starts happening at the highest level, I think a lot of these young guys just have no idea what the hell is going on. So Baker has a chance to have a lot of success because he's had a lot of failures in the past and he's seen it before at least. He's not being dropped into the fire immediately upon.

Sam Donald has a chance to have success because he's seen it before. Not that it's because he's had great success in prior places even though he did at Minnesota, but it's like he's seen it before. Mack Jones potentially has a chance to be very good. Not saying that Brock Purdy isn't, but Mack Jones has a chance to be very good because he's had

so many failures and he's seen so many things. And if you can remember those situations, you can kind of take advantage of them in the future. And it's like Anthony Richardson I don't think is close to getting to that point yet. Not that it's like an easy thing to get. everything I just laid out. It's hard. But Danny Dimes coming in and knowing all that shit,

I assume Shane Steichen and the boys, everybody on the offense, is more comfortable, would you say, kind of going into games, knowing that, hey, we least got somebody on the field that can put us in the right position in most cases, because that's a big deal for a quarterback as well? That's half the battle. Understanding protection might be the biggest thing a quarterback needs to know whenever he's playing the quarterback position in the National Football League. In college, you can get away with a lot of stuff. But if you don't understand protection, you don't understand when you're protecting and when you're not protected, your coach can't play you. And you learn that by getting blasted. And Danny Dimes got blasted a lot.

Yes, too much. And now you've got to have talent too. You've got to have guys who can block and protect. You've got to have a back who can protect. We've seen a clips going around of backs not been in good past protection and obviously good coaching because you can't be thinking. You got to be prepared. You got to be able to just be free and play ball. Yeah, it's a small sample size. But are we sure that this hasn't just always been Danny Dimes? and it was the offensive line in New York and it's like you get blasted that I mean, who knows

how many times he got hit from the blind side and fumbled and then we're just killing him like this guy sucks. He can't protect the football. It's like, are we sure that he wasn't this guy the whole time and now it's just perfect situation? He has an old line that's good. He has a coach that, you know, he pairs well with and he's got playmakers

on the outside as well. And just think about his weapons, yeah, the playmakers. When he, you know, the best standing downs you ever saw was him going into Minnesota and beating the Vikings the year the Vikings when all those won't score games. Danny Dimes on the road with, you know, Sequin and Isaiah Hodgins, who I

believe is on a practice squad somewhere, still doing it, but still, that's who Danny Dimes was throwing to, and Darius Slayton also still a good player has been paid, but Michael Pittman, Jr. has had a thousand yards with every single quarterback he's played with, and there's been six of them. And Alex

Pierce is an actual deep threat. Just never really had the opportunity, I think, with sustainable offense. And maybe he's just finding his stride right now. O-line has been. Josh Downs, another weapon, unbelievable. He has Jonathan Taylor in the back field. He, in the offensive line. Like, just the continuity at quarterback. The O-line has been

solid, but they've had to change their style of protection since Phillip Rivers, because it's been different, damn near every year. And, added to the team this year, maybe the best player in football, Tyler Ward. He's unbelievable. And they go to him in so many

different ways. I think this is the player right here. Yep, they're going to motion them into fullback. and then he's going to go through the A gap on a little 7 route over top of the linebacker. Just get him the ball out in space. Watch up! Doesn't go out of bounds, lower the shoulder at the end. Always. Let your presence know. Where did he go to school?

That cult. Which one? Penn State. Yeah. He wasn't the first day and off the board. Yeah, Colton Loveland was out of Michigan. Now, they were saying he wasn't fast enough. They got him releasing out of the A gap. They're going to look like he's a lead blocker in a run.

I mean, he had the Broncos defense. Feels like Shane Steichen schemed up this Broncos defense pretty good as well, Dee, but you're on the call. Yes, very good scheming. You mentioned that they blitzed him the entire game, and he just kept figuring out. But you got a guy like you never know where 84 is going to be. He can be in line. He can be split out of the wire receiver. He can be lined up in fullback.

Shit, he can be under center and taking a snap. And when you're running routes like that, we don't go over those type of past concepts. You're not going to see. You see Pooka do this. We saw Calvin Austin do it kind of through the big gap, but you don't see it. tight-in running a seven route from the A-gap. And he's always open because of his size. He's always a mismatch because of his size.

And his speed, the shiftingness is pretty special. I think that's the surprise element. Usually you see a big boy like that in space. You're like, okay, I can saw him in half. Like, nah, he's giving guys the business in the open field. And now, what were you calling Shane Stiking last year? I think we're calling him shite stinking, I believe. And to be honest, that's not we were.

No, you were, I think. Well, I don't know. I think I heard it a few times from multiple people. I know a lot of people on the internet were saying it, but I mean, that's the thing. Maybe we keep calling him Shite Steak and we start calling him. He's clearly in his bag.

So he just did with Tyler Warren coming out as a full back, seven-rout through the A-gap. I mean, that Shane's stinking in his bag. Exactly. I'm thinking maybe we go with the poop theme. Danny dumps, you know. No, that's what I'm saying. That day.

Wet wipes Warren. I mean, we can go all the way. There's a chance that that day comes. But I'll tell you what, with these eyes, boots on the ground, I ain't seen anything. Time soon. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the ESPN pundit of all things NFL.

He is literally the expert on anything you need to know when it comes to American football. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan O'Lovsky. Yeah. Dan, you're really getting after this morning. Is that an everyday thing? We didn't have a full conversation while you were getting after it this morning with the kettlebell and the bodyweight stuff. Oh, working out? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I always say, like, one of the benefits of being fortunate enough to play, like, sports so long as it's had such a good impact on like post actual sports playing life um i used to do it for vanity you know i still think i do a little bit but i i can't really go a day without working out for my brain or like i feel like i just become crazy edgy and on you know not fun to be around so yeah i got to kind of get to a point of physical pain almost on a daily basis i respect that just beat the hell out of yourself whatever gets you by okay whatever makes life the best and I need it man from a vanity perspective you look good you look good brother just want to let you know it's all paying off you know those suits this year look extra snug don't they oh yeah

tight yeah they got great real tight yeah and maybe i've actually put on a couple pounds and that's why they look as tight as they do now see that you're doing the whole thing about not having confidence about the shape that you're in vanity stuff you look good you need to know you look unbelievable but it did feel as if the suits instead of getting them a couple sides too big because you know we might get through holiday season and this might be a little bit. It feels like you were aggressive, and this one said,

take it in. Yeah. This is me. This is me. I always said it to my wife. When my wife is like clothes shopping or something, because my wife is such a small lady, and she's like, man, this is too small.

And I'd be like, get it. It'll force you to stay in shape. Gills you to stay in shape. Yeah. How's the trail mix? Yeah, what are you doing? You're such a dick. Yeah, you're not.

Are you Brad Pitt in Ocean's 11 series? It's a great movie. Yeah, and he's always eating, but he's Brad Pitt. You see what I'm saying? Vanity purposes? No, I don't remember him and his character always eating in that movie. It's his thing, dude.

You're being a ducher, eating those pretzels. No, I don't think that's the case. I think you look like... Have you seen a mirror, bud? Oh, geez. Am I eating right now? Am I eating right now? And just so you know, respectfully,

go to hell. Okay, I like that. I appreciate that. Dana, we're doing AQ's takeaways. We're through the first one or the second one. Rushing down was the first one. Second one, Danny Dimes Blitz Conqueror because of what he was able to do, the Denver Broncos.

They blitz them over 70% of the time. He had a 117 or something like that, QBR against the blitz for 268 yards and everything like that. Is there anything you want to add to the Danny Dimes conversation that maybe we've left off that you have seen? No, I think the overall thought in Indy in relation to everything is like you got to give Shane credit he had a lot of noise on how it was handled and you know what quarterback he should go to I thought he should have gone with Anthony obviously that would have been wrong because Daniel's playing so well so you got to give him a lot of

credit I think the second thing is it's just a high level of trust right now when I watch play calling oftentimes you can you can watch play calling from a quarterback's perspective and you can get the information of are you trusted or not? And I think that that's the thing that pops off the tape is they just trust the annual right now because they're so aggressive

throwing the football in early downs. We did something yesterday. I think they've thrown the ball 18 or 20 times on first down. That's an indicator of like we believe in you. I think they've thrown the ball like 13 times on second down.

So that's something that stands out. And you're starting to see a little bit more of that creativity. I just, you know, AQ's blip, I mean, that really for you guys, like, and you know this is like, that's sale. It's just somebody deep, somebody middle, somebody short. And they just are super, this is sale. Daniel's run this play over a thousand times in his life.

Not in that regard, though, not the way that they got to it. You see those three levels, that's a perfect shot of it right there. And so just the ability to take a very basic concept, you're going to see a deep guy, middle guy, and a short guy, and make it look like something completely different. different even though it's not. Now, Tyler being a huge part of that. So you're seeing the creativity back for Shane. And then give credit to Daniel. I would say that Daniel is playing in a way that we never seen him play. Daniel Jones coming out of school was a guy that would always panic under pressure. Panic with the football. That's why he had those turnovers. He's actually

under pressure a decent amount in these first two weeks. He's dealing with chaos and he's been flawless in it. That's what's been remarked. I mean, this throws big time now. I mean, it's big time throw. Downs is great, by the way. So, yeah, a lot of good stuff on their tape, a lot of it. Yeah, I agree. And he's been tough for us. The Dimes dive has three touchdowns in the first two weeks. Even if we don't get it, the first three downs, who cares, run it again?

This dude is tough for us. He's big for us. And he's much more athletic, I think, that most people give him credit for. We've always hit the Danny Dimes over Rushyard prop. Okay, that has been since the beginning. He's a much better runner than you would think just by looking at him. And we're saying that strictly because of all the stereotypes. Yes, that is why we were saying it.

Out of dude, what he looks like, everything like that. You would think this guy, there's no way he can move. He can't. He still's got a different gear, too. This past weekend, somebody breaks free. I think right offense looking out, right defensive end or pass rusher. And Danny, he's two feet from Danny Dimes, maybe a foot. And Danny Dimes turns, runs, double clutch, puts in a new gear, hits a different

gear on this guy gets to the edge, gain of like four, I think, as opposed to a sack that happened. And obviously, I'm not comparing that against Anthony Richardson, but I certainly was comparing that against my thoughts of Danny Dimes. And he's 28 years old. He's just hitting his physical prime. Young. Like he, everything that is up or has been potential upside for Danny Dimes is seemingly all hitting right now. His recollection of coverages, his recollection of everything that's going to happen, his knowledge of the plays, which is like that Duke education is all coming together, like he learned it all very quickly.

His feel for the game, after getting his ass beat, I think, for so long with the Giants, good. His humility, not that it was ever gone, but now he literally can't listen to anything because outside noise has been so loud for everything, never even had an opportunity to dive into that stuff. It's like, we got a guy here in Indianapolis. It's like a perfect fit for us, too.

I think one of those things, too, that I feel is consistently showing itself, maybe a little bit more recently or not. And so this is the, okay, this is the conversation around Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith, and it seems at least through two weeks, Daniel Jones is like, and I know Gino didn't play well Monday night, but there's a big body of work that Gino Smith is. It's like, there is something to be said for these younger quarterbacks just getting absolutely embarrassed publicly. like getting you know they're just going through hell essentially professionally and not getting not breaking and like not allowing that to break them and then using it to um a positive way like continuing their process continuing to work believing in yourself not allowing doubt to become more than self-belief and it's paying off now i'm not saying it's going to be that case for everybody but it does seem like that is a overwhelming common theme between those guys. Yeah, being mentally calloused is a good thing,

I think. You know, because they're embattled whenever it comes to everybody thinking or them thinking that everybody has the same opinion about them, which is a negative one. Because they can get real loud, and those ones steal thoughts, you know? For me, I still go through it because they can get real

loud, negative things said, and it's like, man, how many people feel that way? Does everybody feel that way? Should I feel that way about me? Yeah. And then all is it. Yeah, exactly. You start going to like, yeah, that is exactly the That is true, actually. And I never really thought. And then he started getting in there, and he could lose your confidence.

And if you lose your confidence as a quarterback. That's everything. I mean, as anything, you lose your confidence. So you've got to, like, fight through that. And the fact that Danny had it in the biggest market. Yeah. In the biggest way. Following a Super Bowl legend quarterback.

Eli, he was supposed to be the next one, same coach, remember? Coach Cuth, great man. Got a chance to meet him this past weekend dinner in Tennessee. Good guy. But it was like, this is the next, hey, you got him. Good job. we draft this guy he's ely he's ely but more athletic we drafted who he's ely but more athletic and then it doesn't work out and it's like bang bang bang and then when it does work out they pay him

because he wins a playoff game and because they pay him and it doesn't work out he gets killed this guy made more my eli manning ever made it is a it's a lot but you know mentally calloused physically heartened you know and his mind seems to be sharp with what defenses are currently doing And he fits Shane Steichen's offense perfectly. You see what Shane would do, obviously, with Phil Rivers and Chargers. It was a lot more throwing, not a lot of moving. But whenever Shane Steichen really came into his own is with Jalen Hertz in Philadelphia. Jalen can move.

He's physical. He's strong. Anthony Richardson was a guy, I think, that they wanted for Shane Steikin because they were going to be able to do that. Danny Dimes has all that shit. Danny Dimes has all of that shit as well. We're in a good spot. Okay, what's the next takeaway from week two that we should talk more about Akewish? The Detroit Lions got back to doing

what they did last year. Oh, you're talking about the great Resurrection all the way back the Detroit Lions. Go ahead. A. Kush, what did you see from them? Yeah, they got back to doing the shifts and the motions and running the football. They look like a completely different team from week one to week two. And right here, you get Leporta in motion.

You get the crack toss at the point of attack. You can see a motion and boom. Crack, get around, bend outside, touchdown. On the next one, unbelievable play here. unbelievable. We're going to send the whole oil line right. We're going to motion Leport and we're going to run the bend back, fake zone right, get everybody out to the left. So much eye candy, so many shifts, so many motions. This is exactly the whole oil line goes right. They get Taylor Decker out in front. They get Leport out in front. They get Gibbs bending it back all the way

against the zone. Over the top ball handling. Defense has no idea where this ball's going. This is exactly why they had so much success last year was all the eye candy, the shifts, the motions, and running the football. The ball fake there, too, got that left D-end very, very badly. If you saw golf on that counter, too, how important is that, Dan, when it comes to play action fakes for the ball fake? Because we all saw Rogers get another guy like he did back in the day.

Yeah, so it's actually a good observation, a good point, too. It's a huge deal, and I think it's something that... Boney and charming? Yeah, I was being serious there. I think it's something so that there's obviously a... There's obviously a lot of conversation about quarterback development that has, you know, kind of been a hot button topic over the past, you know, week or two. That is a something that is the way quarterbacks used to get taught and a lot in certain

offenses was a massive thing. Like, AQ knows it. The run game works because all 11 are attached to the run game. You know, it's not like the offensive line blocked good and the runnerback ran well. It's, you know, in your run game, it's the proper scheme and everybody. and is synchronized with the way that they're going about their blocks and the quarterback and his handoff or his, you know, his fake after the handoff on a bootleg or the way he snaps it. I remember getting taught when I was early, you know, in like the Shanahan Hubeyak three of like,

you know, we would run zone and I would hand the ball off and we would do drills where like I would put the ball in the running back stomach like Aaron Foster or someone like that or Steve Slayton and we would have a drill where we would hand the ball off or be in the process of and our coach at the very last minute would be like pull it you know and so we had the process of like giving the ball to back no i'm not and so uh and then snapping our head downfield and so i i think a lot of that stuff has gone away from the position in many ways because it's just not emphasized as much anymore and uh you know i think that doff's a guy that was trained under sean and knows how important those details are to the run game of the bootleg

or the hand I always talk about with these quarterbacks who are handed the ball off from underneath. Like, you know, we were always taught like it's a dealer at a casino. Deal parts. And you're dealing, yeah, and your off hand has got to be,

excuse me, in the stomach because the defensive end, if I'm a quarterback and I open up to my right, to hand the ball off, the defensive end is trying to see is my other hand, like hanging off of my body? Because if so, it's,

they're thinking that's a tell. Maybe he does that on the handoffs. And so that defensive end can then crash down the line of scrimmage. You get the back side. And so you're trying to all make it look the same. And so that's actually a good observation by Boston Connor is like, you know, golf's got that stuff that it's all connected. I love that Connor and you just had a good football moment. I was trying to find a ball.

I mean, just wait for the moment that's coming between me and Dan O in three weeks. What's that? When we can really talk about a future storyline of the NFL season this year. And that's Drake May football baby. Okay, on that note, let's go to. Hammer. He played good. Don, Ton. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, I was just looking for it, Dan. I couldn't find the tweet, but you put out a K-M-Wort tweet from week one about his film. Then I thought I saw that Drake May tweet about

his film from Week 2. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. Did Derek May look awesome as well? I would tell you that I thought this was the best game of him as a professional. Wow. I thought with when it comes to some of the stuff that Drake May did now, a little bit of his credit to Josh McDen. I thought they moved them a lot more. I mean, he's such a big-time athlete. They moved them. So the athleticism was a bigger part of the game and his game. And he throws so well on the run. I thought some of the ball placement throws that he had versus some decent coverage was big time. And then his ball fakes have, you know, grown a lot. This ball to

Boutet is absolutely perfect on the, on the one-on-one down the red zone. The ball to the back down the sideline, this one to Ramandre. Like that's, this ball, I don't care if the guy's in his back. Fuck it. It's perfect. And so I think, When it comes to this, you know, like Drake last year, there was a tremendous amount of growth in his feet in the pocket and his movement and throwing in rhythm and timing. And then this game, it was like, listen, there's a lot of remnants in this game of Ben Rathesberger and Josh Allen and just the style of play. If you just took the jersey, there's a lot of stuff that look like early guys of Ben Rathesberger and Josh Allen style-wise, big time. He was awesome. Yeah, Connor was just squirming in his seat.

Well, then I remember it. I need to temper what I am, you know, hearing because it is Dan Goofslovsky. No, it's not sure. And I'm not sure, you know, how long. We had a moment. We had a moment. You were talking about the Dan Wagon, where the Dan Wagon does get latched to a lot of different players early in the season.

And he latched to Cam Ward and they lost 3319. And he played great. The film, yeah, the film, I know I'm not a player. But I think everybody has said, including Dan, Cam Ward Good, Titans' bad. Exactly. He's got what he's said. So he's saying Drake may good, at least. Now Patriots, good?

TBD. Question mark. Yeah. They're not talented enough to be, like, good, I don't think. Oh, no. You didn't have to give an answer there. That was not an expected answer, but I do appreciate you. See something I swing at it.

Do you know it? See something I swing at it, man. Yes, you do. Geez. All right. Let's give you something to swing at that's great out in Los Angeles. Debutt has a question for you. Yeah, another quarterback who,

I wouldn't say has had development issues. He's been a star since he stepped on the scene, in my opinion, but has had to change a lot of coaches and things like that. Playing very, very good football. Justin Herbert came out of the gate swinging. Offense looks different under Greg Roman as well. What's your early thoughts with Justin Herbert in the Chargers office? I think the Chargers as a team are as complete as anybody in football.

I think they're as well-coached as anybody in football. Offensively, it just feels different. It feels like in their belief they've got the best player in the NFL, and they just cut them loose on it. early downs nowadays. It is just play action pass after play action pass on early downs. In their words, the health he has this year is a big deal. You know, Greg Roman talked to us last year about Justin in relation to last year. And he said they watched 23 and 24, 2004 tape. And they were like just the ankle and how it infected all parts of it. That's a sick throw. All parts of his game.

They underappreciated. And so his legs are a big deal this year. I think this, but, like, just from a Phyllis, this is fourth and one, and he gets to the third read, Heenan Allen. Hennon, by the way, got a chance to be a hallfamer. Okay, like, legit, when you look at his numbers, got a chance to be a hallfamer. So, okay, like, this is what I want to say about the charges offensively. Again, I mentioned the early down passing and whatnot. They're huge on offense physically. Like, their offensive lines, think about it in this old school Baltimore in a way.

Massive offensive linemen. Joe Alt, their left tackle, looks like Jonathan Ogden. Then they take, like, Matt Locke, who's their 300-pound tight end or fullback, they put him on the field. So you've got six cats on the field that are 300 pounds plus. And then they go play action passes. And so you can't get to the quarterback. And then McConkey's got great speed and field. Greg Roman told us, or Coach Harbaugh said, McConkey reminds him of Marvin Harrison.

Just his ability to get open. Quentin Johnston's downfield getting open. their tight ends are good players their backs average 235 pounds and so they're just a difficult matchup right now and offensively man

dude they're playing at a high level and then defensively but you could talk to it better than me but like I told you guys Durwin Pat I told you Derwin's great like Derwin's great man to talk to

but like I think the thing that makes them difficult on defense debut is they force you to be patient as a play caller quarterback with their style but you know you have to get explosive plays against them and those two things I don't think can happen at the same time

you know and so I you like you end up chasing stuff but you shouldn't they don't give you completions they play a zone defense but it's not your traditional zone defense where they just go to areas they're matching concepts and they're matching routes and they're matching you know three level stuff where it's like yes it's a zone but it feels like zone man but it's a zone and so it's hard to play against that unit man

Yeah, they just suffocated. They have players that can do multiple things. The guys on the outside, they play well, but you can have Derwin James, depending on the week. Okay, we got Brock Bowers. Brock wasn't fully healthy, but, hey, we got Brock. We got Kelsey. We need you to take that guy out of the game, or, you know, we'll use you more in a run game. We'll use you in a deep run through, like, just a bunch of guys on the same page flying around, no egos.

It almost reminds you, like, a college defense. Like, that Michigan defense that mentor had in Michigan, he carried that shit right over. You saw a glimpses of it last year, but this year, everybody's on the same face. So will OCs be able to figure this out or no? I guess that's a question for you, Dan. Like, is it so early in the season that it's like towards the later end of the season? Are people going to be able to understand what they're doing? No.

Pat, I mean, this was the number one defense points per game in the NFL last year. They gave it 17 points a game last year, too. How come nobody talking about that? Dan, I expect you to that. You know, like, I would tell you this. You and Fowler and Riddick were talking about it maybe on Monday night, but before that I didn't hear that one time coming out of the people. it's a great question of like how do you play against it and have success against it um i think you

have to be able to get bigger than them at the line of scrimmage and control the run game so two teams that i think immediately have the ability to do that are buffalo and baltimore aq would know a little bit about that and more than me but i i just think you you're not going to dink and dunk your way down the field against this defense you're just not over the fourth course of four quarters and you are not going to hit big explosive plays on them that often. You're just not. So you've got to be able to control the line scrimmage. You've got to hit your shots. It's like when you're playing the great

quarterbacks, like going into the game with great quarterbacks, like you're playing Brady, you're playing man, and you're playing Patrick Mahomes. They may give you two opportunities to make a play on the ball. You got to make them. You got to make the play. You can't drop interception. They're going to drive down to score or get a touch their field goal. So it's the same

way with this charge defense. You got to run the ball. I respect to run. And maybe they drop it. Maybe they do something. A little out of character, you get them off. But if they stay on schedule and they're playing, you're not beating them. And when you do have an opportunity to hit an explosive play, you better hit it because you probably aren't like that there

another chance for the next two or three drives. So that's it's the same mindset as a defensive player who are playing those guys. That's the offensive mindset with these guys. So that guy's a head coach very soon. Yep. Harbaugh said it. Mentor? Yeah. Stud. Absolute stud. So if he was up for a job

and you were up for a job, you'd be like he should take him? Yeah, no question. Not even close. Hey, actually, I'll do your offense book. Something to think about out there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's, that building is awesome too. I don't know if you were out there, obviously, or have been out there.

Brand new practice facility, huge, beautiful place. Brand new state of the art, everything basically there. The vibes from equipment room, training room. The food. The chefs, you name. Everybody is all going in the same direction. It is wonderful out there. And Harbaugh feels like the perfect guy to bring it all together.

And Herbert is a dude, certified, what we all believe. Speaking of another guy certified, won a Super Bowl. Some people say it at average, maybe. He won a Super Bowl last year. And I think he even called his own shot, dagger to win that. I think, go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Dana, where are you currently at on Jalen Hertz? Because I remember you came on, you know, when we were at the Hall of Fame

and you basically said, hey, last year he didn't play like a top half of the league quarterback. back and we kind of gave you hell for it and then you know promptly got you off the show and then a couple weeks later on get up i believe you said that you know him and syriani are like the modern day bellichick and brazen and i think a lot of people didn't listen to what you said they just said this guy said he sucked last year and now he's calling him tom brady two weeks later so they were like dano's a moron yeah he kind of got out of context quoted pretty good you did you did by your own show it that's neither here nor there that's going to happen used to it obviously jalen uh he hasn't really been filling up the stat sheet like crazy, but they continue to win. Where are you

on Jalen Hertz right now? Yeah. So I feel the same that I did about his performance last season. And then the reason why I said the Belichick, Brady thing, was like, it was like in relation to their style of just whatever it takes to win, like the obsession, no noise, hyperfocus, all that. So I think like this, week one, I thought he was tremendous because it was what the defense was giving him the opportunity to do and it basically pitched a perfect game and then when i watch week two i don't think there was a ton more that he could have done with the football i just like right now they're past game through two weeks so no one i'm not like you know burning it up but like they ran the same route with a j brown 10 times from the same location you know it's and there's

And in Debutt, like, there's a beauty in this of doing the simple stuff, and I can appreciate that. Like, hey, our guy, we're going to line up and we're going to run the same route and stop it. Oh, no, it's happening again. It's happening again. Yep. They just beat the Chiefs, and people are calling for people to be fired. Oh, yeah, they want this OC fire.

No, I'm not calling for anyone to be fired. No, you're just saying, hey, this guy's running the same route from the same place 10 times. It's a fact, though. That's, it's a fact. So, like, if we're sitting there going dissecting maybe why the stat sheet's not getting filled up or you're not throwing for 300 you got one of the best receivers in football

and 10 times in that game he runs up 5 yards and breaks in so like there's a predictability element of that and there's also like okay we complete it we got 8 yards you know and so there's just that yeah but you're not

never go broke making a profit brother never see the red if you only take green you know that's right Pey you went to the Hall of Fame off that indie route. The Chiefs have been back to the Super Bowl. But yeah, I get Dan's point, though. For a defense, and the Chiefs had, I think they held the Eagles to their lowest output

since like 2021 or something like that. But I mean, you lost the game. You lost the game, so that's the big thing. But when you're coming into a, you have a weapon like AJ Brown. You have a $30 million your wide receiver. And he's been doing and saying all the right things. So kudos to him. But you want to have some type of mystery.

where number 11 is going to be where number 6 is going to be how they're going to use them like Jesse Jefferson slow start this year young quarterback but 18 is going to be moving all around it's tough to game we talked about with Tyler Warren it's tough to game plan we know coming this is a big problem in the past game but where the hell

is it going to be how they're going to use them this week how they're going to use them their red area it's also like if you're killing them if you're killing them with it keep doing it it's it's just their offense from last year to a point like hey they keep running the football well no one of stopping the run. And then in the Super Bowl, we're going to stop the run. Well, we're just

going to throw vertical routes to AJ and Devante. And so, like, if you're killing the defense, not a big problem. But when your offense maybe isn't firing on all cylinders and you're not playing the way that you maybe want to or you're not as successful doing so, then, yeah, I think that you're trying to figure out the why. The why would be, like, I have no sure, right decision, right decision, right decision, right decision. I could pick in, you know, even like their runs that they scored on. I think those were, for the most part, the same formation and same action. AQ, like, where they get, they put formation in the boundary, and we ran, like, weak counter, weak zones.

So it's like, yeah, it worked, but you can play better. Understandable. Last year, Seriani beats the Saints down in New Orleans. Everybody's calling for his job the next day. They get another win the next week. Everybody's calling for his job next day. They get another win the next week. Everybody's calling for his job the next day.

That offense coordinator is like, oh, now it's me because you want a Super Bowl. And with that being said, it feels like everybody feels. feels the same way about this offense coordinator. Maybe this offense coordinator looks in a mirror like Dan Campbell did after that first game, whenever the reporter says to him, couldn't in theory you have run last year's offense and had success? It looked nothing like last year. What are you mean, man?

And you get no motions, no shifts, no, it was just boring. It was lame. It was terrible, basically is what this reporter says. And they goes, go see what we did all in the road. Dan, like, gets kind of offended. then you just talked about their offense this week shifts motions everywhere then clearly on the board yeah this is our shit yeah a lot of shifts a lot of motions okay need it fuck this guy whoever the reporter was you could do that if you're the OC right in theory could change the way he goes about calling

play's designing plays that's the early it's we're a week too and you're winning games and to a dance point making a right decision that's what it comes down to playing quarterback that's your Jalen Hertz has done. I think this is what 16 straight games where he started including the playoffs where he started and won. So if you're making the right decision, you got 130 yards passing

or 80 yards passing or whatever it is talking shit to Chris Jones or Chris Jones talking shit to him. That's all. If you're down in victory formation at end of the game, nobody cares what this. Well, Jalen Hertz doesn't care

with the scats sheet because there are some quarterbacks who they come into their locker room after the game and they only have 190 yards passing. They don't feel great. They want to be the reason why. and the reason, you know, that team is where they are. Jalen Hurts, that's not, hasn't been his motive since coming into the league.

And I'm sure Eagles fans are fine with that. But, you know, fantasy, betters. You know, people want to see points, points, points, splice of it, explosive. Want to see A.J. Brown doing different rights. Yeah. I trust the AJ Brown in the second round. Why is he scoring?

I got Big Batman. You got to run five yours, okay? Send the Cape Don, the goddamn field a couple of times here. Yeah, I understand. Father of the modern day, Bella, Jake, Brady. because Brady he will hand it off 47 times we were part of

Garrett Blunt Jonah Gray like it didn't matter still running still run like Garrett Blunt is still running like Garrett Blunt is still running

I actually see him from the sideline watching him just run from my right chin shoulder shoulder from right chin shorter shoulder all the way to left short it was it was chin short

like Garrett Blunt a couple times maybe the other way too yeah Gizi was a good dude was a good dude. There was a stat like a week or two ago that like Brady is like second or third all time

with wins when he's thrown for like less than 150 yards or something. I believe it's not Aaron's probably close Aaron's probably close to Aaron Rogers will hand that thing on. Oh yeah. No problem at all like every time his MVP conversation started like a couple years back. If you're like

look at his stats, look at his stats, it's like did they win the game or they did win the game? That's all he cares about. It's the right call here is running the ball. Tom Brady, same thing. Now, Peyton, I believe the best option, sort of sky. We're not going to win if I don't throw for 500 today. Now, on that note, Super Bowl, you got Joseph Adai, Dami Rhodes going crazy in there. And Peyton continued to, yep, let's go ahead and do this. And it opens up the Reggie. Bulls Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah. And Joseph, yeah, definitely. Oh, yeah.

When he was, when he went to Super Bowl with the Broncos, you had 143 passing yards and two picks. Yeah, like, I think... Who was the back? Who was the running back? No Sean? Is that No Sean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think, personally, the quarterbacks that are very good, I understand, like, hey, this run game's only better for me, brother. Like, this is, because now everything is here, and we're getting ones on the outside, which leads to Akech's questions. Uh, because they thought we were a question. We thought there was going to be a ground and pound kind of resurgence in this all. And stats aren't saying that's case, Akech. No, we talked about it earlier, Dan. We saw that run game is down

this year. And the question that I have for you, are you seeing anything specific on tape, or is it a combination of things that you see from defenses? Yes. So, yes, I'm in a tough spot right now, AQ, because I like to figure stuff out and hold it.

So I would tell you this, I think that there's a thing going on. Shut up. You're a loser. You're a loser. He might see you because the stat was on the full screen. Dan had a, on his back screen.

As AQ was saying that He had a full He looked like daughter My daughter made one of these I want to say this first Yes That's my win Like that's our wins

That's the competitiveness So let me answer it okay I think there I would tell you I think Some of the things that are attached to the run game being down are I don't think that we have A ton of backs right now with great vision

in the league I think that there's back that are missing holes at times. And I don't know if this is because gun run track is different than under center run track and the way that back sees it, the spacing and timing behind some offensive linemen. I think some of the teams that we've seen be very successful over the past couple years in the NFL are dealing with that right now, with just a lack of kind of that necessary vision from their backs. So that's part of it.

I also think, and I sent to tweet out AQ the other day, is like, there's a lot of commonalities between the offenses that are performing well and a lot of commonalities between the offenses that are struggling. I think one of the things that is a standout in the NFL through two weeks, and I'm getting ahead of it right now. Oh, getting ahead of it. Because I don't want anyone else to think of it. Too late, you're behind.

What are you thinking? No, no, AQ, she got his multiples. What is yours? Shout to Dr. Pepper, by the way, the official drink is, Cara. Love you, Doug. We've talked about for a couple of years now, quarterbacks underneath the center. I think that's a commonality between the offenses through two weeks that have played well.

I think the offenses that are being aggressive on first down and play action, aggressive on first down and play action, not just drop back, play action. Those are the offenses that are performing well. And I think the teams that are willing to play with two or more, two or more tight ends on the field on early downs are the teams offensively that are performing well. Wait a way to get ahead of that one. That one's yours.

That's general off. T.M. I need 12 personnel, says Dano here in 2025. I need at least... 12 or more. I need at least two tight ends on the field. I need people going to center. Rich Rodriguez heard you loud and clear. I don't know if he stole it from you.

But I am appreciative that you thought of that ahead of time. I can't wait to see your full report on that. You're the man, Dano. We end eating, of course. Yeah, go ahead and get you. You've earned that snack, I think. Well, it's why you're always farting on TV, huh? Yeah, I just can't stop feeding the gullet, so that means it's coming out of the ass at some point. Go ahead and get the microphone there. Great work on Monday night, no farts.

Also, I thought you did great job. I didn't stay up for it, but I heard it was awesome. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rolowski. He heard the highlights. Dan was great. He was awesome. He was great. And he also doubled down on Senna. Yeah, John Senna. Yeah, he's got Senna. That really stole the show, I'll be honest. I don't remember much from very. calling of the game other than Fowler calling John Sina John Sena.

And what he said, John Sennah takes on Brock Lesnar this weekend? Yeah, big main event at Russell Palooza next Saturday is John Sena takes on heavy news. He had Fowler so locked in on everything. He had to know. He tripled down on it, said it three times in a row.

Maybe he's one of those guys not happy, WWE. Could be. Yeah, and Riddick did this thing, too. He kept doing. That was just... With that being said, this weekend. Russell Palooza, ESPN, John Santa, Brock Lesnar. It's about to be a huge night. We can't wait to watch it here in Indianapolis.

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have or be bestowed upon yourself. If you're on the all everything good D. Yeah. But bad D is a bad vibe, brother. You don't want to see yourself on there. Last week, it was four good D's, one bad D. This week, same setup? Four and two.

Two. Bad D. It was just, we'll see him. But I think we all, if we watched Sunday football, red zone, anything, you definitely saw one of the bad days. Chicago. Yeah. Come on, Bear.

Stop, Bear. 12-year NFL veteran and Super Bowl champion player coach Jackie Moon-style for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Akeesh. How you doing A-Kish? Fantastic. A lot of Tampa Bay Buccaneer representation on this program. A lot of good team.

They are a good team. Baker-Mayfield's a dog. Yes, he is. But I'm just saying a lot of people that I know from the football world ended up down there in Tampa Bay. If we would have been worse with our COVID, I'd be a Super Bowl champion. You'd have a Super Bowl.

With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, we'll get into that with BA someday. We're too good. I didn't have the antibodies. I didn't have the antibodies. I thought you were coming. Beat COVID. Kicker-punner for you guys.

Suck up in Pinynion, right? Yeah, and the long snapper. And the whole operation was down. Go down. There you. Go down with COVID. They think. It was a failed test.

It goes down. In that world, or at that time, if you had the antibodies, test it for the antibodies, means you already had COVID. You had the antibodies, which at that time, I think a lot of people thought if you're vaccinated and you have the antibodies, you won't be able to get.

Well, a lot of people thought if you were just vaccinated, but the antibodies too there. So the NFL's rules were, I think it was like seven days. You had to be in a hotel if you didn't have the antibodies and you were coming down there before you could join the team. And no team had a kicker and a punter on their practice squad who had already passed through the COVID protocols. But if you had the antibodies, I think it was only like two days or something like that. Yes. Two and a half days or something. So you guys, kicker and punter goes down.

I'm already retired. I get a call. Hey, do you have the antibodies? We might need you to kick and punt this weekend. I was retired. Never kicked in the NFL. Pretty good kicker. Not the greatest, but pretty good kicker.

And hadn't punted in a while. But if I got the antibodies, I'm joined Tom Brady and Tampa Buccaneers. Let me go get a test. Sign me up. Let me go get a test right now. I remember, I think it was blood. It was, yeah. Finger prick.

I had to prick my finger. Couldn't get blood out of my finger for a while, which may be more alarming than any of the other discoveries. You did like eight of the tests. Yeah, exactly through the whole thing. Put it down there. Now we wait. Am I going to be teammate at Tom Brady or not? And then it comes back, no antibodies.

So I didn't have COVID yet. I think they didn't punt that game. Yeah. I thought you guys rolled. I think they both got back too. Yeah, they both cleared protocols. You would have been able to just stand on the sideline some sweet years. I would have got sweet Tampa Bay Buccaneer.

Ain't knowing everybody. I would have been a part of the boat, the whole thing. That was awesome. We did COVID too good. Yeah. People won't talk. Nobody will talk about. Not enough.

That was late in the season. It was. Unseasonably cold. I think that's why it was a little tougher for the blood to come out because, you know, you're a little bit cold. It was unseasonably cold. That was a long time into the COVID. It was a long time ago, it feels like. Oh, but it's not.

We need to remember it, you know, as we go forward. Let's go to Hammer. Don, Ton. AP Tones over there. Ton, I do remember taking eight of those tests, just hoping that one of them would tell me how the antibodies. All of them came back negative. Week two, gambling. We talked a little bit about it yesterday.

Anything you're looking at for Hammer die today that we maybe need to keep an eye on whenever it comes to the gambling world. Yeah, I'll never forget you sitting at that picnic table taking like eight tests trying to get blood out all time, just absolutely all time. What am I about to be teammates, Tom Brady, boys? Okay, I know we got a little thing going on here.

I was going to have to wait about seven days. So I've got to go do something I've never done before in the NFL for a team after I've been retired and also go punt and to beat Tom Brady's teammate. Instead, too good. They both come back. I would have to do nothing. but congrats to you guys, winning a Super Bowl. Happy for you.

I would let you know, as you were doing it all, I was super happy for you. I was very pumped about it. I was very, very pumped for you. Always will be. Beautiful ring you got. I was hoping you were coming down. We were talking that whole week.

Dude, there's so positive. Everything was so positive, except for the antibodies test. But to your point, originally. Negative. I think the story this week is literally the backup quarterbacks. We could have potentially five backup quarterbacks playing. So, you know, you've got to kind of look at those games.

There's two of them in one game in the volleyball. Vikings and the Bengals play each other this week. And you got to look and see which ones you trust and which ones you don't and kind of try to find an edge in that situation. I mean, both of those quarterbacks have played a ton. Those backup quarters, Bengals and Vikings in that game

have played a ton. And like Marriota and the Raiders, like, what's going to happen there if that's a situation? I would take a look at the backup quarterbacks this week and see if you can find any edges there. Okay, I like that. Sports folks don't really know what's coming with the backup quarterbacks. Joining us now is a man who's alive in an attic in Ohio. He's a college football

National Champion, Super Bowl Champion, Rotter Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hawker, good to see you, Hawker. Thank you for joining us today. I know you have busy schedules to make it time for us is good news. Five backup quarterbacks already getting playing time, getting some rub. How do you feel about that?

That seems like it might be a long year if we're already this early into this trend. Yeah, it does seem early, but don't we talk about this every year? We think, hey, if you don't have a good veteran backup QB or a guy that you feel like as an up-and-comer, like it's worth paying a dude to have somebody back there that can, can write the ship if you need a guy three, four, five, six games or something. It's a, it's a huge deal, I think. Honestly, I think Jake Browning, I think the guy's pretty legit. People sleep on him a little bit. He's not Joe Burrow, but nobody else is. So I think the Bengals might

be all right. I think Jake Browning has proven that he can be all right. He's got a lot of moxie, obviously a lot of athleticism. We respect to hell out of him. Has got a chance to play in the past, so he understands the moment and what he's stepping into. You talk about having a good backup and a veteran backup. Whenever we were with the Colts, when he drafted Andrew Luck, they brought him Matt Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck was a starter for the Tennessee Titans before that. He talked about how he had to come to the realization, like I'm at the backup quarterback stage in my career.

I'm going there to be a veteran. I'm going to try to be everything that I would have wanted in a backup quarterback when I'm in there. And we had to rely on Matt Hasselbeck a lot as Andrew Luck was getting injured. Now you're talking about a lot of places paying backups a little bit more money. And we go to Atlanta. Michael Pennock's going to be the starter. You got trade Kirk Cousins.

Like, we're not. I mean, if we get the right offer maybe, they never said they were fielding offers. but I assume if the right offer came, they would have certainly said yes. But on a side note, they're like, we're okay with having Kirk Cousins

as our backup quarterback as well down there in Atlanta. It is something you need, especially this year it looks like. It's huge, not only for when the guy actually has to go in and play, which is obviously most important,

but even throughout the week when you're getting the defense ready to play. Like that, I'm going against Matt every week. That made me much better going into the week. We're playing, you know, Peyton Manning on Sunday night football.

And I got Matt Hasselback and Griff Whalen and slot being West Walker like that. That's a great look, you know, Monday through Thursday or whatever to practice up until Friday. So getting that defense ready to play, then been in the building. So, yeah, you got to have, like, I'm sure the Niners right now, they got having Mac Jones in the building, making that sign.

And like, that's huge. For however long he has to play, just a guy that can just be 500. Just keep this ship afloat until your big money quarterback comes back. And even thinking about that in Minnesota, I bet they're thinking the same thing with Carson once. Like Carson once at one point was playing MVP football, and so far from what we've seen, every quarterback that has gone in Minnesota. Except for JJ.

Except for J.J. Well, yeah, with prior experience, though. For seven quarters. Yeah, under KOC, they've played well. So like Carson Wentz, 32, you know, he goes out, plays well. He could get, you know, a couple, you know, gap years, if you will, for some of these young quarterbacks coming in. Ari Mirov's stat, in fact, of the internet, which is something no QB in the NFL history has ever done.

and that would be start for six teams over six seasons. What, Ty? Wow, wow. I mean, yeah, we can do this with Carson Wentz if we want. I'm done. Okay? What are you doing? I wish Noel will.

I hope he plays well on Sunday. I really do. It's because he's in the NFC North. It's not. It's not. Because let's not do that. Hey, we could be looking at Carson Wentz. You know, throw it eight touchdowns in the next few weeks.

You might get a hundred million dollars or somebody next year to play quarterback. No, he's fucking. not, okay? No, he's not. It's not happening. So we can just end that right here. And this is no slight to KOC because obviously everyone who goes in there is great. But we'll see if KOC can coach out the urge to just say, if I get him to throw it so far as I can. There's eight guys down there on the defense. I'm going to throw it as far as I can. I might throw 90 yard touchdown right here. Be the number one play on SportsCenter top 10. I'm done with it. I'm done with it. And on the same token, I cannot wait to watch on Sunday. And that's kind of the car.

person wed's experience that is right there that is all of it right there we lived it brother yeah i mean we lived it over here i was so excited once i met him he walked into our uh our office downtown he's so big giant gigantic human being he's so big and then you see him move he's so athletic and then you hear the way he talks just love ball man just loves ball just wants to do his thing and then you watch him play and it's like how have his parents survived watching their boy play that cardiacness of me he's not relation. I just met this guy. Okay, I know. I'm watching them play football in every play. It's like, ah, okay, okay. Oh, yes, that's my guy. Or, oh, why would you, why did you shot put the ball with your left hand in your own end zone in the fourth quarter against a division rival that you

have to win into the sky for the shortest pick six in a history of football? Okay, I think that is an actual stat. Yes, it is. And then the next play, the. next they kick off sorry extra point kicked then they kick off touchback then we get the ball back Carson Wentz wiggling moving takes ball balances with it on the ground on the ground balances with it stands up sees triple coverage Michael Pittman give me that yeah Michael Pittman through the three dudes catches it comes out it's like yeah what a boy that is literally That is the Carson once experience that I remember. And then he can add on Aaron Donald in the Rams,

where he thought he was going to break free from free Aaron Donald, grabbing him, and then him trying to shimmy out of Aaron Donald. Go off for me. Both feet, he sprained both his ankles on one play. One play. I don't know. The goat. If anybody's ever done that.

It's a risk reward. The risk reward, man. He's all about it. loves ball. He does. That's why, like, Ty, I think Ty knew that I was going to get into this, which is why he did that entire thing.

If KOC can get all the good, oh, and you're talking about with that Minnesota fan base and the whole thing, you're talking about electrifying. Justin Jefferson's the guy down there now? Yeah, real worried about him. When's Addison coming back? After this week, so three weeks.

For Ireland, he'll be back for Ireland versus Steelers, of course. Oh, think about Carson in Ireland. Carson's playing in Ireland, the country of Ireland. Yeah, they're going to win by 30. Oh, my God. International Carson Wentz experience? Two weeks. Ireland and then London the next week.

He's going on a Europe tour. He's got a European leg of the Carson Wentz experience. Talk about growing the game. People are going to see him play for the first time. This is what I'm talking about, lad. Why is the sport not more like this one here? Now, granted, we have no idea what he's going to look like this year. Okay, KOC. People look different in that offense. They look better. They look good. They look their best. I get it. I understand that.

But if KOC would maybe let Carson Cook a little bit and let a little bit of that experience out, it's good for the game globally. We just talked about it. But also, there's a chance with that offense, with the amount of weapons they have, a lot of people getting open. There's a chance that he goes for eight touchdowns. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Over the next couple weeks. One game. Okay, one game over there. And there's a chance that goes horrendously. Okay, there is both sides of the coin here. But with what JJ started and that, one fourth quarter. I think every Minnesota Vikings fan is understanding, like Carson,

we just need to kind of get through the games. Take the snap, kind of do the thing. I don't know if Carson ever has heard that in his entire life of playing football, but I think they're very excited to kind of see what this team can become, and it's just like a little bit of versity, a little bit of versity, kind of stumbling out of the gates here, the J.J. McCarthy

era, and then you get the Carson-Went's experience thrown right in from the side. This could be exhilarating for this Vikings, this could be exactly what the doctor order for this Minnesota Vikings. There's he plays so well in Ireland and England that after he plays there London does decide you know what it's time

let's build the NFL stadium and we want Carson once to be the franchise quarterback of the London Big Ben Towers or Clock Tower or whatever team they're going to end up put in there. Carson might become a night Dan and this old thing. Boom. I mean we honestly don't know what we're about to see out there.

Aaron Jones is out. Yeah. Also, I lost a drop out of the Claude there. I mean, he lost his running back. He doesn't have one of his receivers. This isn't exactly what you want for your first start. This is CWE. It can't look much worse than JJ McCarthy. Outside of that fourth quarter.

Seven quarters. NFC player of the week. Offensive player of the week. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is an AFC defensive player of the week. 72 times throughout his career. This guy is once a Walter Pate man of the year. He's been an MVP four different times.

Wow. This guy is hockey sticks for golf clubs because he's abnormally tall. He's very strong, explosive, and he owns two soccer teams. Ladies and gentlemen, a future first ballot Hall of Famer in the NFL, JJ Watt. Yeah, Jay, Jay, Jay. In a morning we drink coffee, in the afternoon it's rum, and then we play soccer, and we win everyone. We're a Spaniel, Espaniel.

Oh, looky, looky, another fucking goal. Okay, I like it. I like what we're doing here. They're going to sing that this week. No question about it. Okay. What a song. I don't know if their English is great, but we're number three in La Liga.

Let's go, dude. Let's go, JJ. Never stop. Wild match this week. Wild match. Had it all. Red cards, penalties, just crazy. But yeah, we pulled out the win in the cauldron of chaos, sitting in third.

Real Madrid this Saturday. Uh-oh. I don't know if I love that. Should we be dancing with Real Madrid and Bartholona at this stage? Or do we need to still maybe sharpen the iron before we run into the top of the table? Or do we feel like we are the top of the table right now? I mean, you got to play them all twice anyway, brother. Let's do it.

Let's rumble. Are you guys the team that's getting scrappy and getting the red cards or are you guys the other team doing that? This wasn't even scrappy. it was a it was a word to the official um word up don't know if it was worthy of a red card um little little questionable but they knew what words give you red cards is there a rule like he's in a rule book somewhere they write them out you know that's a that's a question that i honestly don't know the answer to well this should be your this is you protesting the red card because if it's not listed out how are we ever supposed to know because the line is only considered a line

depending upon who judges what the line is. That's always like the fighting press conferences where like cross the line. The person's like, says who? They can cross the line with me. I want through the line where it's supposed to be. You ask CJ, GJ, what the line is. And then you ask some other people

what the line is going to have different lines. So they should have that in a rule book. I think Espaniole, it's got a case here. Some people don't have a line. Hey, we came back. Don't worry. We got resilience. We got heart.

We got desire. We got grit. And we got a whole lot of pericles going crazy in the stands. What word do you think it was, though, if you had to guess? That's a good question. right, AJ? If we had JJ just try to guess and maybe say these words right now.

Should I say them all? Should I see what gets your banned off of ESPN? Don't worry. Well, you'll get muted on here. The digital one, TikTok probably kick us off pretty quick. Yeah, that's the one. They drop us every day somehow. I don't know. We're appreciative. Shout to the new ownership.

Shout out. It's not getting banned. But they'll drop us quickly. YouTube, I've heard others get dropped pretty quickly. I don't think it's really happened to us, although we have been buried a couple different times for unknown reasons. Yeah, unknown reasons.

You kind of just kind of disappear. But that didn't happen. But it definitely did, though. No, it didn't. Okay, we keep it moving forward. We're very appreciative of all of them. I'm excited to hear what the word is once you finally say it. No.

Do you know it? He definitely knows it. Yeah. Yeah, no, I know it. I'm not going to. What's a rhyme with? Can you say what it rhymes with, maybe? Was it one of the robot ones?

No, he's, he's, he's one. One of our, it was the guys playing the lights out. It's pretty awesome. But, no, he got himself a red card. Not ideal. We came back. Well, was he saying talking about the ref, the atmosphere, somebody on the other team?

Someone's family member on the other team. Yeah, maybe. The officiating? No, the officiating. Officiating. Oh, he said the officiating was absolutely. It's, yeah, it wasn't to his liking. It wasn't to his liking.

He got a red card for that? It's not to his liking. probably in Spanish it sounds like it does happen in the league more than any other league because it did happen at the game I was at in myorka there was a red card for the same thing oh the refs aren't taking any sass around here do we have a picture of the riff yeah the refs aren't taking any gruff are they no gruff no gruff from those La Liga ref yeah yeah it sounds like the La Liga refs

stink and the fact that it's 120 on a Wednesday and we're talking about soccer fucking sucks dude can we just talk about football all right let's do football Hispaniol, their top three in the truck. He says to the referee, you're awful. AJ, why wouldn't you say that? What's the deal? I mean, I think there was a, I mean, I don't think that's, I don't know if that translates directly.

Oh, there was a slur maybe mixed in? No, no, no, no, no. Let's go to football. Espaniel boys are mixing in a little soft. with their... Españolos? That was going on. Turn the table.

Just put the table back up. See where we're at. Actually tied for second with Barcelona. You have to love that your guys are going after the refs, though. I know that is something that you love. Absolutely. Yeah, we're not promoting it, obviously.

Not promoting it, but these reps need to get it right. Post retirement. Still kept doing it. Yeah, we don't take shit. Yeah, reps need to get it right. You're very important. You get paid. You're a professional.

We appreciate you doing what you're doing, but also get it right. Okay, let's talk a little football. You got a chance call games. past weekend how to go how did you feel saw you sitting down that was that was clever that was chee this is what funny even my wife thought i was sitting down i was kneeling because we were trying to make it a bit like we're we're doing it one time we said one time we'll play into it and then we're done for the year so the national anthem is playing right now and you said you know what

is that how you got to this is that i mean you're just in it today you're just in your bag you're just in your I am. I'm big and deep. I know. That was really. You're not to serve that. But I did like that this was happening. I appreciated you guys both acknowledging it.

How did it come together in the moment? Or was this pre-rehearsed? And will you do this for the rest of the year to make your partner feel more comfortable in the booth? No. We saw the reactions week one, which was completely unplanned on anything. We didn't know it was going to even going to,

I didn't even know it was that big of a difference in our heights from week one. But obviously the internet took it and ran with it. So then we said, all right, we have to acknowledge it in week two because of how big it was. So he's on two boxes there. I'm on my knees. And we said, we'll let it die after week two.

So that was our shot at it, and now we're done. Very active boost. Go ahead, AJ. Jage, to pivot off of the booth there, Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell, they seem like they got some real heat there. I don't know if you've seen any of these clips from people like in the stand to show and their little greeting after the game. Have you ever seen anything like this to where an offensive coordinator leaves?

obviously in the division team, a rival. Like, it seems like these players are actually really upset the Detroit players and coaches at Ben Johnson. Do you think that's real? Do we have the clip? Because I've seen, like, a couple little handshakes here. It's not bad. I'm not saying they kill each of them. I didn't think it was that bad, right?

To me, Ben Johnson walking off the field and not going and seeing a lot of his Detroit players. I understand he lost the game. But Carson, or you see Jared Gough comes over and finds it, but he doesn't, you know, he knows everybody over there. I'm just thinking, yeah, I guess it's a loss. You're dejected. you want to get off the field, but he still knows a lot of these guys. That's a great part of it. I think that part's better, the way that he handled golf there and the way that he handled,

you know, some of the other guys. I'm with you. I do think that just like the human and you sees people that you just spent a few years with and some real, like I think you give those hugs. And maybe he did it back, we don't know. Maybe he did it afterwards out of the locker room. He went to the family area and said I to everybody. So I don't want to stand on that and say something.

and then he comes out and it's like, no, I saw every one of them. But seeing that on the field and just kind of knowing how you handle it after a game, I do think that there's clearly a little something there. I mean, he's pissed him off. There's no doubt. And they didn't exactly lose in, like, a close game where it was down to the wire. They got it handed to him a little bit. So he's a competitor.

He's frustrated, but that's a quick handshake. That, like, the quarterback that you were in the room with for the past couple of years and the guy that, like, worked hand in hand with, that's a very, quick. They definitely still talk. MCDC right here. Just kick your ass, man. Got out of there.

Now, we don't know what he said. I'll talk to you in the back, man. I'll talk to you later, man. Or how's that feel, bitch? And then kind of walk out. There's a lot of different things that could be. And maybe he did say that final one, which is why Ben Johnson was like,

I don't like this. And was pouting off quick with the Jared golf conversation. But also, I assume him and Jared still talk. I assume they still text with each other. I assume there was a plan. Some of the players came out saying that didn't like it.

Jared golf. I mean, there's zero eye contact there. He literally doesn't turn his hit. They say Ben Johnson's one of the most intense guys around. He's got their asses beat. I think everybody's like, stay out of the Ben Johnson storm. I think we all understand what's happening here. That might be the case.

Or follow-up, they actually do hate this guy for going to the Chicago Bears. And is that kind of how the Ohio State Michigan thing started? What do you mean? Didn't one coach go to Michigan from Ohio State or something like that and turn it into the big thing? Wasn't that like the history of Woody or something? Woody Hayes?

Woody didn't go over there. Coaches have. I mean, you know, running back coaches over there now. That's how it started. From what I remember. I think there was, there was... Something sort of flipped, kind of like Yankees, Red Sox, and Babe Ruth? No, yeah, maybe. Is that what happened? Yeah, he would have been the Red Sox of the Yankees.

Woody Hayes and Bo Schambachler both coached at Miami of Ohio. Okay. So I think that may have been the origin story of their personal hatred with one another. Yeah, so those two are the reason that made them. Michigan, Ohio State game, right? And Woody goes to Ohio State. I feel like this should be a class at Ohio State. I feel like AJ you should have some insight here. I agree. So I'm

just, the fact that AJ did not have the answer there was a shocker to me. There wasn't an answer. It's a big game because it's a big game. And Bo and Woody elevated the game to where it is right now. That's what it is. Of course. So Bo and Woody information, that would have been a great answer right there. But Bo

and Woody, I think, worked together and then they went to separate ways and then turned into massive heat. Two good coaches. Coach two good teams for many years, and it a great rivalry, and that's why it continues to be a great rivalry. So, yes, thanks to Woody and Bo. How many did, what was Bear Bryant's coach intrigue, Bruce Aaron, you said yesterday? 47 or 67? Yeah, head coaches. Forty-seven head coaches or something came through, the Bear Bryant system down there in Alabama and everything like that. There's going to be beef amongst them, you know? And if Ben Johnson and MCDC and the Bears and the Lions have some sort of

beef, just because of this move here, I think we would all love that. Now, football fans would enjoy a lion's bears beef, I think. So I will say after the game, Gough defended Ben Johnson because there were fucked Ben Johnson chants within the stadium. And golf said, I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all. Ben did a lot for us here. So I didn't like that they did that.

So I personally watched this video and thought it was nothing. Ben Johnson just got his ass kicked, 50 burger on him. And I think he was trying to get the hell out of there. I know what fans are going to do and people are going to say. But, yeah, I mean, I just thought nothing of this whole thing. Foxy, I'm trying to remember. Was there, am I misremembering? Was there something that went down?

Like, he was the number one candidate. Didn't he a year before or with the commanders or something, spurned them and stay with the lines? Yes, he essentially stayed an extra year from what we all thought. They gave him a little bit more money. And they were like, hey, we're going all in. We're going to try to win a Super Bowl. And we all knew he was leaving after last season,

but it was because he went to the Bears that fans were not happy. I don't know about the players. Brian Branch was kind of mad after the game about it all, but from my perspective, the handshakes were pretty much not. I thought so, too. But you said he spurred, spurned the commanders went back to Detroit. That's what Lions fans are saying, though. Yeah, you could have won anywhere.

You chose to go to NFC North. You decided to stay in the NFC. That's what the fans are saying. Didn't you get like 13 million or something from them? Oh, yeah. They don't give a shit. That doesn't matter, JJ, remember. But that's like saying a player, so a player can never ever,

going within your division if they if that's where dude the patriots fans tom brady went down to tampa do you remember oh did he okay jage listen now's not shocking to me i'm trying to make a good weren't you going to go to tampa from what i heard that was so close if i would have just sucked face or somebody that anybody that's man if i would just look at somebody that had covid but whenever tom went down to tampa i mean there was like two teams it was like belichick or tom and everybody just joined belichick and look at all the things that tom did for New England. And it was like, we wouldn't want them. Not everyone. I think you

worked with one. But I think it was very much 50-50. At the beginning. At the beginning, it was very much like a line in the sand. And then once Bill started to lose after Mack Jones's rookie year, that's when it really became like, you know what?

Never mind. We love Tom. No, I'm saying, though, but we're still in the beginning stages. We're at week two of Ben Johnson being. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, there is like How mad would Bears fans be If he was all lovey-dovey Dapping every single player up And you just got 52 points scored on it

True, yeah, Ben's thinking I can't be setting the tone here for all Chicago Well, and imagine two of their offense If the Lions' offense Just like sputters a couple more times Here in the first quarter of the season They'll probably, you know, change their tune too And be like, Naremont, Ben Johnson's awesome

Gooflovsky sucks without him Okay, well I can't wait to see if the lions are still the brand new lions After one week of dominance and Ben Johnson and the Lions hating each other good for ball, but I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's real. I don't think it's a real thing.

Keep droning it up like it is a real thing. Yeah, it is fun. Oh, that's a Lions fan saying it is fun, and that's a Packers fan saying it. Yeah, I love it. I love it. We don't have enough of it in the league anymore. There's a lot less of that, like legitimate anger. And so even if it's not real, I agree, it is fun to consider it.

Because the old days, there was that real, real hate. How do you feel about the Vikings? In what capacity? Carson Wentz, brother. Come on. You know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the man. I heard the Ireland talk.

I mean, it fits right. He's going to be walking around town. People are going to be like, yeah, just another guy. He's one of us. No, he's six foot six. He's walking. They're going to say this is a super version of us walking around here. Obviously, this is the side that we are going to be on.

The Carson Wentz experience, definitely successful with the Minnesota Vikings, because KOC is getting a veteran quarterback, and that seems to be the MO. or maybe J.J. McCarthy wasn't playing great because the all offense wasn't playing great. Is that possible a situation? I mean, I agree with AQ and the fact that he's stepping into a tough situation without Aaron Jones, without Jordan Addison.

It's not exactly what you're ideally drawn up, but AOC's a great coach. Like you said, Carson's the competitor. I'm interested to see what he looks like. I haven't seen him in a few years, right? So I'm very much looking forward to seeing how he's out there. You never know. Those guys get a second, third chance,

and all of a sudden. You ever sprain both ankles of a quarterback? back before in one play no but uh i did when you said that it really it's triggered something in my head i had a teammate who tore both quads on the same play oh my gosh that would suck so bad oh my think about that i don't want to how does that how i don't get into a ring maybe i don't know it's unbelievable it was the worst So there is a full situation. Yeah.

All right, let's move along. Let's move along. Excited for the Carson-Wen's experience. Also, this Tom Brady as an owner thing has certainly drawn some conversations that I assume you have dove into. Good, Dee Budge. Yeah, I would assume you have a unique perspective.

I asked you about Travis Hunter a couple weeks ago, which I have different thoughts on that because of your perspective. And now being a team owner, obviously in a different sport, and been in the booth. How do you feel about Tom Brady's, I guess, conflict of interest?

now that you know it was a big story last week when he was in the uh Vegas booth what do you what's your thoughts on that as an announcer and as eight owner yeah it's uh it's it's an interesting conversation because people think that you have all this inside access which they've kind of stripped most of it away obviously the one thing he is able to do is attend zoom production meetings so then you think okay well he has inside information from these zoom production meetings truth of the matter is the team can choose to give you as much or as little information as they want to give you in those meetings and now yes his crew and his other people on the broadcast team can go to practice and if they wanted to they could share things with

him from practice that is that is legit that's their ethical decision between them if they're if they do that or not but in the actual production meetings i mean i've faced it myself i mean you've got this this week i'm calling the the steelers patriots week one i called the Jets Steelers. I think that there might be a little more guardedness there, knowing that my brother's on the team. Not that I'm going to tell them anything. Not that I'm going to give away

anything, but different weeks and different teams are definitely giving you different information depending on what's there. Yeah, definitely not telling JJ Watt shit about what T.J. Watt is going to be facing, especially when we see them shirtless on golf courses, training

all offices. We see their kids all hanging out. Of course you're not going to give them a heads up. Hey, who's starting at center for you guys? Wouldn't you like to know? Oh, I'm sorry. Wouldn't your brother like to know? So I could see how that would happen to you on a very regular basis, actually. Two Steelers games, first three weeks.

How do you feel about that? And also, how do you feel about the game, Steelers Patriots? I like it. Obviously, I look forward to being able to watch my brother because it was really interesting this past week. I didn't get to see a single snap at the game, obviously. I'm calling my game. So it is nice.

But I enjoy it. I think it's going to be a good matchup. the Patriots played well last week against the Dolphins, a little bit of a back and forth wild one. The Steelers obviously weren't able to keep the success going from week one. So this should be a good matchup here, which I'm looking forward to. But I really, I do enjoy it. I do try to be extremely non-committal on either side when I'm calling his games because I know exactly what people think and how it looks. So I hope the Patriot fans find it the same as Jets fans did in week one that I'm calling it straight down the middle and just

giving my honest thoughts. Journalistic ethics. Yeah. Damn right. I respect that. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I saw Dan Orlovsky earlier today. He kept it in the bag and then he let out that big reveal that teams are running under center and having success. I mean, we had a full conversation about it on our game. The Rams were, I've had a lot of success under center.

So thankfully, you retroactively told me that a week ago so I could look, you know, look like a genius. Oh, no, so that's not even bad. either oh no dono need a new one dono throw it out can't win with it let's follow up with more about the Steelers we head over to hammer dad Todd Todd with AP tone yeah JJ I'm not sure if you saw you know where else teams were having success running away from fucking TJ six yards to carry going away from TJ two and a half going towards him and if I see one more if I see them get gashed one more fucking time away from him I'm gonna lose my

shit. Oh, they were all supposed to move him around the line of scrimmage. Nope, he's been over at his normal position. Every fucking snap. It's going on, JJ. All right, Brian Kelly, calm down. Oh. I saw Dan put this out, and I was

honestly glad he put it out because I didn't want to be the one to bring it up on game day and have people say, oh, yeah, of course you're going to bring that set up. It's your brother. This has been happening. This is a very legit, and if you turn on the tape, it is extremely evident to see what's happening. The ball is running away from him almost every single time, and they're having significantly more success over that way as opposed to

when they run towards it. So it's an issue, and it's something that you have to recognize and you have to try and combat, whether it's shifting fronts, moving guys, stunting. I mean, it's a, the initial answer you want to say is, well, yeah, in the run game, flip him to the other side. Well, offenses have alerts. They have checks. They'll just flip the play to the other side. That's kind of how it goes. So you do have to just also be better.

And their run defense in general, whether it's left or right, just in general needs to get better. They know that. They've talked about it. And it doesn't help when you've got guys down, Derek Harmon, Loddermilk. So they need to stop that run quickly. But yeah, these are the type of charts you see every week. Okay. So is that why would, is it because TJ's such a good run stopper that they don't want to run towards them?

And also, by the way, I don't think that gets talked about a lot with guys that get to the quarterback a lot. So this seems like a massive compliment to your brother and his ability to play all three dines, brother, all four downs, if needed. But what is it? Is it scheme? Is it strategy? Is it humans? What is kind of the way you answer this? And also on Tone's follow-up question, there was a conversation about him playing different positions, and we know checks. But is that still a thing? Did he prepare for that? And what are your thoughts on what that would add to a Steelers defense? Yeah, I mean, for your first question, if you're having success doing something, you're seeing other teams have success doing something, why would you go the other direction? Like, if you're having all those long green lines run to the left, well, I'd probably keep doing that until it wasn't successful. And then there is the fact that he is extremely good against the run.

It's something that he's done very well, something he prides himself on, so you can watch it on the film. It's standing guys up at the line of scrimmage. It's setting an edge, and it's turning the ball back inside, or it's making the TFL himself. And then when it comes to moving around in either the run or the past game, it's one of those things that, A, is a little bit comfortability. It's scheme, first of all, it's also comfortability. He's been rushing in one spot his entire career, so it's old dog new tricks. It can be hard to get a guy to do that.

But he actually, if you watch, has had a couple successful rushes on the right side so far this year. But they have to do something there. A lot of chips, a lot of double-triple teams. I mean, I think he's, if you look at the numbers, I think he's had literally six legitimate one-off. one pass rushes this year. That's it. So it's really, really tough. Yeah, how'd that happen? What idiot? Let that take that. Go ahead, DeBud.

Yeah, with a game record like that, Akeona asks you, when you are putting together, like, the run tape plan, because I know there are checks, but, like, how much easier is it when you know where a guy like 90s going to be, even like pass pro? Because we see with Micah and Green Bay, he's all over. He's everywhere.

Jay, when he played it, he would move all over. So how much easier is that on the offense game plan wise? It's easy because you know exactly the reason. going to be, he's going to be on the offense's right, so you can just kind of go left a lot of the times. But with JJ, you can put checks in, right? Like, we'll just keep both Wat brothers in here. When he was down in Houston, we would have, when he was lined up in a three technique versus a five technique, we would run, run, check it wherever he was at. So we could get the double team with the tray, tackle tight end, or if he was in the three, we can get the deuce block,

go counter the other way. So if he was in the five technique strong, we would run duo. Five technique, please explain. Five technique outside of the tackle. So in between tackle and tight end, so you get the double team there. So regardless of where he was at, we were putting a double team on them. What if they're stemmed AQ? What if they're stem and pre-snap AQ and he lines up in a five and drops to a three or whatever? Yeah, so that's part of game planner, right?

Like if a team doesn't show that in any weeks in the previous four or five weeks when you're doing your breakdown, then you know exactly what's going to happen. If they start doing that and playing chess during the game, then obviously you're going to have to adjust and then come up with your own game plan and adjust during the game. But, you know, with them from your experience with O. Lyman, did you like, so there's two, in my mind,

at least what I've seen in my career, there's two philosophies. you either run at the best player and put a double on him or you just say hey we're going to run away and try and not let him chase it down from the backside which did you prefer as an offensive lineman liked running at the person because then you know exactly what's going to happen and for you specifically we'll just go back to you as the example when you played in that five technique and we weren't checking and you were on the backside you were so good at that backside swim and chased down the line and you made the play anyway so it was like you kind of have to play that feast or famine game but at the end of the day I'd rather have two guys on their best place. Yeah, the people, at what year did you become a check and did you know you were a check? Like you just heard that from another team there, just talk about when JJ was in, when he was at three technique, we got a aced dice here. Then when he's outside, we got a trade block out here. We got to do this. Like every snap, though, it was like check 99.

Where the hell is he? This is what we're doing. What year did that become? And are they saying that aloud? Like you're hearing them say that. You know what's taking place. Yeah. So that was after 2012.

So it was my first defensive player of the year. next year you came out and you started hearing all sorts of different things and so the way that you try to combat that and milk milk turned down for what and what you guys are talking about with moving guys around so we had our way to combat that I would line up in that five technique and me and whether was jared crick on the other side at the last second we'd try and flip so that they couldn't switch to play but they would literally then pause check and then run exactly the opposite way and so you'd You'd be trying to stay ahead of it. You'd be trying to bounce around. But these offenses, they know exactly what you're going to try and do to combat it.

So that's why, like, it's not as simple as moving around. Yes, it makes a little more work for them during the week to have to plan for it. But they're really good, too, man. They're smart on offense. Those guys know what they're doing. To say exactly what you were just saying, if you're trying to do that and you get us maybe one time, then we just go to a double cadence to get you show your little stunt or your little flip, and then we'll just get you to show it.

Okay, cool. Now we check the other way. He got us that first time. We need to make sure that that happened. Yeah, we need a double kittens here. And then guess what? We're going on three then. If he gets us, if he starts figure out that we're going on two, we're going on four. We need to figure out where the hell this guy is. What a compliment to you, JJ? Legit. That had to feel so cool. I mean, you've got a player of the year, obviously, that's a huge compliment. But then whenever you're hearing entire professional football players, just entire game plan is revolving around

what your abnormally large athletic ass is doing on every single play, that's a cool thing. The other thing that's absolutely hilarious, and I remember it specifically with Aaron Donald later in my career, is because defensive linemen sub out, right? Like, O. Lineman play the whole game, but defensive linemen sub out. So literally, when I was coaching in 21, we wouldn't have any play actions called, and then over the mic, you hear, he's out, he's out, he's out, and then BA goes with the chunk play with the play action. And that's because Aaron's not on the field. Bingo.

I assume that happened to you, JJ, on a regular basis. The big one's missing a play. Why? Who cares? Let's go. Let's go. Go ahead, AJ. That's why you play every play.

That's like the Max Crosby thing. He plays every snap. Like, it's that competitor in you. You're like, if I go to the sideline, that could be the play that changes the game. Or that could be the sack opportunity that I miss. So, yeah, it's a very real thing. Go ahead, AJ. Jake, speaking of great offense is the San Francisco 49ers and Mack Jones at the helm.

They are doing very well at his early start this season. What do you think? I think Conman has been talking about some internet rumors that possibly, if Mack steps in and plays well, who knows Bertie might just stay on the bench. because we know how much Shanahan loves this Mac Jones character. What do you think of him and you think he's just going to continue

to get better and better if this year it goes? Where are those rumors? Schefter told us there's not real rumors. We must clarify this. We were just doing personality profile on Shanahan saying that he is certainly a guy that if he was to have success with Mac Jones, a guy he originally traded a lot of pieces for

at the beginning was to have massive amount of success. Nobody's safe. And that includes a guy that we love in Brock Purdy. But then Schaefter said, that's not reality. I don't think that's reality. at all or whatever. So then so we're off of that rumor. But

we certainly created that and I think there was maybe three people that were saying it on the internet JJ. If you would like full transparency. We're at Wednesday of week two here so you got to create something. Week three. We feel like that's just yeah have a little respect to week three. Thank you please. I mean

end of week two, week three sure start of week three sure. I did see spaceship don't come equipped for three of you mirrors. They dip brother. We're on to week three. Okay, we are all eyes ahead and I apologize for interrupting. But with that being said, Mack Jones looked very good. Shanahan wanted him originally at the number three

overall pick. He's been through a lot. He looks damn good. They're in a good spot now. They've got two great quarterbacks, do you think? This is a fascinating part of being on the broadcast on the week. This is my first time seeing a few of these throws, and he is slicing and Dyson out there. So

it is, he is having some success, it appears, and that's very nice to have an option like that behind your starting quarterback, and I'm sure the Vikings are hoping that they have a very similar situation in their locker room. Carson Wentz and Matt Jones, similar styles. Yeah. Similar. Kind of. Yeah, you could

say. In a way. In what way? In what way? Max, like the pocket passer version of Carl Wentz. Potentially. Potentially. And if you sack them, you got to be careful because you might

grab your leg and twist it. Yeah, and kick you. You might kick you right in the nuts. Right in the nuts. We don't know if he's doing that anymore. We do know that he had a, I don't know if it was an allergic reaction. Anytime he was sliding his foot just found the nearest junk.

It was a phobia, not an allergic reaction. Fobia. And maybe it was just, you know that when you're a kid and you go. I was going around the NBA for a bit. It's kind of an epidemic every once in a while. You know when the kids go to the doctor and they have that hammer and they hit him in a knee and it kicks up?

Mack Jones has this weird thing. He had it. I don't know if he got a fix. Anytime his left hip ash cheek would hit ground, his right foot would just find dick. And it was a crazy thing we'd never seen it before. Yeah. Doctors said he got it handled though. It might have been his nuts out. Speaking,

do the Indianapolis Colts hate punters? We said we'd get into a Wednesday. I mean, it seems like you guys hate the brand up there. Now, to be clear, punters are cool with that. If we're not punting, that means we're winning. Rigobarto Sanchez, one of the best in the game, has been around for, I think this is his ninth season now. We love him here in Indy.

He's battled through cancer throughout his time here. In Indy, I think he also tore Achilles. Achilles? Yeah, he's been through it. He's very talented. He's good dude. Be loved here. And all he cares about is winning, brother. That's all Rigoberto Sanchez cares about. He's at great holds for Spencer Schrader, including a game winner.

Two of them. Can't be doing leverage, JJ. You know that. Can't be cheating while you're trying to block puns, or block kicks, especially on a 60. Do you consider giving some of your pay check to the other guys on a team if it didn't work at all. Okay, Jayge. On a Sunday.

He did work. Game winner, brother. Game winner. You imagined. Boom, there he is, right. Pause it. Go back, go back, go back. There it is.

That's it. Operation. A lot of field. I don't want to be the holder. I know. I don't want to hold. What's the score rate? Jage, what's score right there, just so I know?

28, 26. How many defensive ends outside linebackers are on the field right now for the Indianapolis Colts? I don't know. I mean, how would I know? Should they give their check maybe to Rigoberto Sanchez for having such a big time play here on a game winner? In there, a little bit of money that maybe should be spread over to Rigoberto Sanchez here?

Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying this whole time. But on that note, he hit like a 60-some yarder in week one. Bomb. Miami Dolphins do Miami Dolphin stuff running into the punter first down. Kind of gets wiped off.

Boy, that's a great punt, first punt of the season. That is setting you up to be in a great spot. 60 some yards, bomb. Kind of sucks that I take it off. Bingo, yeah, yeah, gone, absolutely gone. And also, you're not going to punt next week. Average, would have been 60. Yeah.

Week 3, average 60 yards. Exactly, yeah. So he is ready for it. He's enjoying it all. He's been around, too. He's not a new guy. So it's like he's enjoying the vibes. This is much better than what it's been.

But yeah, I love that Danny Dimes in the Colts offense. What's going on up there, man? What is going on? What's going on, brother? You tell me, Jage. Your first ballot Hall of Fame or you're watching the tape. your eyes are seeing what we're all seeing live in person in a lot house both games home so we've seen literally the start of this entire era he understands everything that's going on in front of him he makes

the right decisions he's still incredibly fast and i think the team is really talented there's been a lot of money that has been spent on this roster which is kind of what i've been saying all off season and even last year i was saying like hey we got a lot of money on this roster we got a lot of really good guys on this roster we just couldn't win you know we didn't have a lot of consistency from one position and it happened to be the most important one and Now he's unbelievable to watch, man. And he's, I mean, like Barry Sanders, you know, ball to the ref and everything like that. He has three touchdowns on the season already, and we've seen two of them right in front of us.

One of them was on the other side. And it's just like immediately up, ball to ref, lineman with the boys, and then we're just jogging off the field. Like he does not, they're zero. He's perfect for us, Jage. He is perfect for our team right now. Very, very good defense. He was dicing up, too. Speaking of money, there's a lot of money on that defense.

They have a ton of great, great players on that defense. Dance is a great de-coordinator. He had a really nice game against a very tough defense. Okay, so are you a little bit worried because there's a chance now. Connor was reading off some potential storylines in the AFC. The Texans are involved in one of them. Yeah, JJ, it feels like the AFC's now kind of gone for a loop. The division winners are kind of still up in the air,

but teams like the Bengals who are 2 and 0 still now, but with the backup quarterback coming in, their projected playoff team, that's going to change possibly with Browning. The Texans, O and two. They go to Jacksonville at 1 o'clock Sunday. Them going to O'N3 will be wild. The Chiefs, the Chiefs are O and 2. Them going to O'N3.

The Broncos, they're one in one. They go to the Chargers. They could end up being one and two. It feels like the teams that were expected to kind of go aren't going right now. Are you worried about some of those projective playoff teams that might kind of not live up to the expectation? O'N3 is tough, brother. The stats are not good for O'N3, James.

Yeah, no, I think there's a very big underestimation about the first-place schedule. Like the Texans have played the Rams and the Buccaneers, two very good football teams, two first-place football teams. It was 14 to 9 against the Rams, a very, very close game. And then obviously this last one on Monday night, multiple different things go one single way and we're having a very different conversation today. But that's how the margins are in the NFL. It's so fine, it's so small.

They had them to fourth and ten, and obviously just missed that tackle. the backfield and Baker slips out and all the credit in the world to Baker unbelievable competitor has an incredible final drive uses his legs using his arms just seems to have that belief that he is never going to be out of a game and never losing his team rallies around that but i mean 14 to 9 against the Rams and then losing on the final you know play drive of the game here against the bucks a couple plays away from having a completely different conversation but that's what sucks about this league man it's so hard and now they're sitting in that locker room

trying to figure it out talking to each other like man what do we got to change what do we got to do and it could literally be one single play there's a lot of teams still thinking that they're in it and oh and two and there's teams that are one and one that think they're still in it then there's a couple of teams that we all just think are dead tie has a question for you JJ yeah JJ if you had to guess

how bad do you think things are in Miami right now because from what we hear from the media I mean I guess there have been a couple people who said like hey listen the dolphins aren't as bad as everyone thinks they are. And then they've looked like hammered dog shit two weeks in a row kind. I mean, maybe not as much against the Patriots. But then we hear Mike McDaniel and his press conference kind of doing the too cool for school thing, which doesn't really work when

everyone wants you to get fucking fired. But he did it anyway. You haven't been exactly in this situation, but you obviously had a couple tough years. I mean, I guess Pat, you know, you guys as well. Like at this point in the season, we've only had two games. But what's the feeling in that locker room right now? Like, do you think they think they can turn things around? or are we already kind of starting to think like, oh, boy, we might be looking at a, you know, two and 15 record this year. Well, you actually did hit on it there in your question.

There's two different types of O and two feelings. Like there's the one where it's like, damn, we lost two really tough games. We easily could have won those and we're a great team. We're going to be just fine. And then there's the O and two where you're looking like, oh, boy. Would have been nice to steal one of those.

because it's going to be a long year. You look at theirs, this last game, the Patriots, and I was just watching the film earlier. They had that return touchdown where all of a sudden you're like, oh, dolphins, they kind of got this one, and then immediately the Patriots run the kickoff back for a touchdown. Another one. That's variable's boys.

Everything is just crushed. So, yeah, it's tough, man. And then it's just when it starts to snowball, and when everybody's already kind of on your ass already as it is, and then you go 0 and 2, and then the snowball gets big. bigger and bigger, man. It's, it's really, really tough. And they're, they're kind of in that snowball right now. So they have to find a way to stop it. And it's much easier said than done. And I mean, it's been talked about a ton. The players only meeting in week one. And I mean,

who wins, who wins in a race? Who wins in a race right now? Commentator, JJ, or 50-year-old Vrable? You saw him on that return on a side-line? He had good knee drive, bro. Did you see the lean? See the lean and the knee drive? I mean, you're talking Hamby getting busted for me, but there's a photo right at the beginning of that angle. He's still got it. I don't know how we... Great chin angle. Yeah. Great shin angle. We in our

game had Shaw McVeigh apparently pop his plan or fascia. So coaches on the sidelines running are going down. Brian Kelly's getting worse than anybody. He had to go get MRI after week one and then he got hit again this week. Vrabel's the one

doing it. You got hit again? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Again. Blasted. Yeah. Brian Kelly watch is real right now. It was awesome. Get that man out of the white. He needs to get that man out of the white. But his LSU team is good for the first time since he's eager to be out there.

You know, broken neck, broken hip, whatever the case. He wants to be out there. And the refs are sending out the memo. Brian, get the fuck out of the way. We're going to kill you. No one's signing up to be his get-back coach. Why not? No, Brian Kelly.

Why not? Kid me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Some low-level staffer, hey, you're going to be Brian Kelly's get-back coach. That guy's getting motherfucked. 5,000 times the game He got to have some peripheral vision

He's right Dude I'm telling him Top out! Top out! We didn't change He's getting He's getting He didn't see anything He got the timeout though

He got the timeout We should say In the face of adversity He held in the pocket The guys were crashing down And he completed the timeout I think we should talk about that Brian Kelly you're way too old to be taking

his head Oh fuck! He looks good. He does. And I want to say, Brian, congrats, dude. Just keep on chugging. This guy's taking two huge shots this season. We're out.

Big bumps. You get a health up-aged. Huge shots. That's great. That is great. Okay. We would like to say thank you to you for joining us on this day. And we would also like to say congratulations to your Espaniel team.

Yeah. And we've been told the Burnley team not going to get relegated after this season. Let's go! So, congrats on everything. calling games great uh obviously we're very appreciative of your time on wednesday's your teams are good good for you jage everything seems to be going great hope the family's amazing they are i hope your family is amazing i very much enjoy being here every week i'm very thankful for the opportunity have a great day we love you jay jay we love you jage love you jage love you jage um bill's new

stadium's coming along yeah have you seen this oh yeah some photos have come out of it so they look very nice it looks very very nice now it's one thing um missing from the photo unless you guys saw and i didn't nope nope zoomed it on every corner did not see it where the bison we need to see the by now granted they're spending billions of dollars on this state-of-the-art stadium sure beautiful just would like that to be known think you guys are doing great the overhead photos every time it's shown make you guys look even better this is what it used to be stadiums which are great got us to the place we are now here's what stadiums can be if you want to invest in them but we're have to see those bison.

Hey, Jay, we need that thing. I need to be walk under the chest of that thing, is what I'm kind of hoping for. The top of the bison need to be halfway up that stadium. The facade right there on the front needs to be halfway up. Yes. On this side, you're saying. Yeah, this side, right. So you see that orange crane, almost to the top of that orange crane.

Debutt, your thoughts? How much they spent on this? I don't know. I think design kind of stinks. What? Oh, right? You put up Allegiant Stadium, put up SoFi Stadium, and then put up this. You're saying they're a little UFO.

This looks like the shit that was sitting outside of Matt Stafford's practice. You know what? That does look like a Pittsburgh toilet now that I'm looking at it a little bit like. It does look a bit like shite. Hold on. They're in the winter. You're talking about places that have sun all the time. This thing's going to be a tough stadium.

This is going to be a futuristic stadium. This thing's going to have bison roaming outside. That's going to make you say, damn, I won't play the bills today. On that note, if you don't want to watch the show anymore, we understand. We continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow. I think I got it. Yeah.

I think I got it. Nailed that one. I think I got it. Can I say something about the stadium? Tollible? Absolutely, Tom. Listen, Allegiant, great. I'm sure the stadiums are going to be great.

But last night after those AI stadiums started coming out all over the internet, every NFL stadiums out there now sucks, okay? My eyes have been open to AI football stadiums, and that's what the future needs to be. Well, I want to let you know, those AI football stadiums certainly are working without a budget and a plan and people having to agree on things. Agreed. On that note, they are cool.

Some great ideas in there. They are cool. We need 3D printers now at it, right? Yeah, exactly. We put a 3D printer with an AI and give them like 10 years or so and just say, hey, here's what you need to make. Bill Stey. And they'll do that, I think. That's the world we're in right now.

And I appreciate that because if we do get, like I only saw a few of that. I didn't stay through the whole video. But, oh, yeah, I mean, Edgar Allen Poe actually thought of this thing. Yeah. So cool. down here in Tampa Bay. They've got a pirate ship. Sure, that's cool.

How about this? How about this? This would be better, maybe a moat in there. How about the Pittsburgh Steel? Oh, Mama, I'm in fear for my life from the smoke coming out of the stack. Things right there. Boys will be playing a game. Pittsburgh is going to have a little bit of a soot home field advantage.

How about the Cowboys having that big ass cowboy hat? Cardinals, obviously. Let's get a little shade from what? Big fucking bird. That's what we are? Bird gang. Let's go ahead and do this thing. And then how about the Niners?

They got the gold rush happening. People went out there and flocked there thinking that they were going to find gold and hit home and hit Rich. Then he got Avatar with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Shod Khan couldn't put this together. Yes, he could. That might be the one.

This might be what the future is. We're Shod Khan down there. And then obviously the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. There's a big fish tank. Yeah. It's kind of cool. The kingdom?

Yeah, they did some weird type of witch. craft thing here. No, the fire at the top is pretty cool. It's neat. It is neat. Cincinnati, Bank. Welcome to the jungle. We are funning games. Our quarterback got hurt. It's pretty fucking lame. They really did, though.

Joe Burrow getting hurt sucks for the Bengals. Brutal for ball. And Jake Browning, we have faith in. We think he's going to do great. And the Lions, that would be cool, Foxy. That's awesome. They don't I love everything about that. A gladiator-Cesar type feel here. But the Colts. That's America, baby. Yeah. boom every single Sunday at military parade what is that like 50,000 people there right probably

in all these 30 to 40,000 yeah yeah if that but it looks cool it does look cool oh the beals outside with a waterfall in buffalo Niagara Falls Design Buffalo this is what AJ this what AI can't do they don't know how cold is Denver oh that's off that one is cool holy shit what I'm saying there's a virtual reality ping pong stadium that is the backdrop in there. It is really sick. That would be cool if they make that stadium. So the Walton's have enough money to do it. Maybe it's an alternative stadium

you guys have. Okay, like an old weekend. Yeah, like an old week at the new stadium up in the mountain, up there and Rockies. That's a good idea. Not a bad idea. I didn't see the Colts. That's because the stadiums. Yeah, they can't do it. They're just, their stadium now is just boring. I don't, you know, I think they're throwing them a bone because they threw sponsorship on it. By the way,

rest of peace, Forrest Lucas, founder of Lucas Oil, which is Obviously, sponsor Lucas Oil Stadium, Indiana businessman. He passed away last week. He paid a lot of money to have that beat at Lucaso Stadium. I think he was a big part of maybe the Colts even staying in Indianapolis, I think, with the investment of the sponsorship and everything like that. Rest of the piece to him.

But Cincinnati Bengals, they started doing business. You know, they sold the name of the stadium, and the AI people were like, Okay. We should throw them above. That jungle looks cool. Yeah, it is sweet. There's a couple hotels that I've had the only. opportunity to seeing that have like a lot of like flowers and shit hanging from roof like that is

the design of the ceiling over big space really cool looking that's really cool I wonder if like in 20 years that's going to look so fucking terrible you know how like we go through fashion things where there's like obnoxious designs that we're all in on and then you walk into one of those buildings 20 years ago from 20 years ago and you go this is disgusting the fuck is this whoever decided you're like everybody, I wonder if that's going to be the green, the plant ceilings, you know what I mean? A lot of flowers hanging in there. It's awesome

though. I would like to let everybody know. On this day. September 17, 2025. I love that. And if stadium, that Jacksonville Stadium down there, awesome. They should think about taking some ideas shot, because I think they're building your shit right now. Yeah, and they can build it probably and it'll end up standing forever.

We had a good run with that, unfortunately. What happened? is it done they lost yeah yeah we got that week too you can't say it's gonna go on forever and then promptly get beat next week it just doesn't work like shot con fucking gave his all up he did he did he heard eight beef pregame yeah yeah exactly he was on the field yeah warming up the boy yep pat and go yeah he was shotgun yeah Trevor give me the ball I'm trying to spin I heard he's got a gun he does he does he can spin it dude probably bought the tea what do you think they're forced or two I love I love

Scott Con. Me too. That stash. Him and Balmer. I need a Balmer Shod Khan sit down. Maybe some of the trees that Balmer has

can be in the stadium. There we go. That could be the thing. All right, let's get to a break. What's going to happen with that?

It's a lot of big names, a lot of money. Yeah, there's one guy who's definitely going down. Okay. That's the teaser. You'll find out about who that is.

Probably never. No, no. It was reported on yesterday. There's one minority owner who, I believe, invested $2 million into... It was $1.99, please. Excuse me. Sorry, Pablo Astori, sometimes I get confused on what the exact reporting is. But again, Paulo Tori said that it was, in fact, there's some money being invested by owners of the Clippers.

And Balmer probably didn't know. Pablo Tori, I think, just on this particular one, just started turning over thing, and then what? and then what? And at what point did he like, this is gold? Massive conspiracy. This is a huge story. And then he just starts leaking it.

And then they can bat him. And he's like, is that right? Part two. Yeah. Boom! That is. And then they think, no, no, no.

And then, oh, okay. Just wait for this one. Boom. There's part three there. Anything else? Any more brain busters out there? It's basically what Pablo Tori's doing. It's like,

how many? Now you immediately got to think about everybody else. Well, and you can stay in that city. You know, the Clippers in L.A. I wonder if Pablo checks in on Shohei. There's a lot around that, man. There's a lot around that. Made history last night again, by the way.

Yeah, it was unbelievable. The amount of shit that has gone on around him, both actual and court and allegedly stuff, and things are being said about him. For him to remain like that, unbelievable, I think, as an athletic. Yeah, but does he stink at pitching now? No, he pitched unbelievable. That's like five innings.

No, no runs. I just saw seven runs. And I didn't even go on it. They lost. They blew it for him. But, I mean, he pitched a hell of a game. He also hit a two-run Homer. I mean, he's doing everything he can.

And it gets real loud. It's real loud around him. Real loud. And I guess maybe it just has been since he was a kid. Is that kind of what it is? I don't know how he's able to do. No, it really. Because baseball was a big time.

It got like this when he got to the Dodgers. Because that was the thing. is like the angels were never making the playoffs. He was unbelievable, but they were never in a position where it really mattered. And then he got to the Dodgers, and they're a super team, and they start winning all the time. So it's a lot easier to start poking holes and stuff. And like, wait a minute.

Let's look into this guy a little bit more. Yeah, but I think he, once again, I am on Shohey's side. His play has not dipped at all. He's gotten better every single year, which is crazy when he first came in. They were like, this guy might be the best baseball player. And he's got Moxie. Remember we talked to him? Yes.

He's got like actual mocks And he understands what we're saying He does Every word Yep And he can speak English It's awesome No some things

I assume he can't pull everything I assume like If he had word bank Probably be able to figure it out But I don't think like Sitting on our show I know there's a lot of people Like he answered you

Literally a couple different times You know exactly what you're saying It's like I think he probably Has a limited amount If he's talking about baseball I'm guessing he can have a conversation In English You go too far outside of that

I don't know if he could. That Japanese language is so different than English. It is so different. There would be times when we were at the all-star. You think he speaks full English? Everywhere. How the, I mean, you think he's an expert level of English?

No, absolutely not. Not expert, but they could do it, but there's guys that are playing in the major leagues for 20 years that still act like they can't speak English when we all know they can't. It's very convenient. In hockey, they have the story of the Russians potentially being like,

I can't do media. you don't understand what you're saying. And then behind the scenes, they know. But I don't know, man. Without a doubt, there are guys who come into the majors and learn English in two years. This guy's been in the major leagues for seven, eight years. Like, I get it for sure. But then, and with, you know, our conversation, there's a translator.

There's been conversations where he doesn't have a translator. Plenty of them. Who is the guy, say, need to eat more banana? Oh, yeah. Crop? Yeah, I don't remember who that was for the Blue Jays. It was like 10 plus years ago, but he's a player. How many years was he in the MLB?

I'm sorry, in MLB. Probably for a while. Again, I can't think of his name. I mean, I'm not going to say that because it's not him. He does look like him, but never mind. But he's probably. Yeah, we don't want to. Yeah, exactly.

Because, boy. Yeah, people get very bad. We don't want to meet it that way. And I'm really not taking a shot. It is Munonori Kawasaki. Yeah. Wouldn't it guess that. It's easy, Larry.

Yeah. I don't, I honestly, he's definitely not in the Kawasaki as ain't known. That's what I'm saying, very popular. But now, he doesn't look anything like that. I know you're talking about. He don't look like that guy. They look exactly.

Thank you. Thank you, Dee. But thank you for saying that. Let's get to a break. I don't think Shohei's just got complete range of the handle of the English language. I know it's a sticking point for some people to be like, because the translator obviously caused a lot. so still having one everybody I think so he's smart enough to get a 10 year

750 million dollars and get it that none of that money gets taxed which is a very savvy money move is he representing himself no I don't know but I assume he has smart people around him those smart people around him who negotiated that deal they never thought you know there's no communication or anything like that with Mitsuhara I don't know I'm just I'm just saying this is why I want Pablo Estori to look into it we want to know if he can speak English Because I genuinely want to know the whole story. And also, if Show Hey is completely clean, he should want it too. Because then all this bullshit is like, I never even have to think about it again.

It got real loud with a lot of shit. It did. And he just continues to do his thing. This posture. Special. Poised, composed in there. The game's bigger than it's ever been. 30 million people are watching in Japan.

All right, watch me hit another one out here. Bang. Welcome to this show. Hey. Guy's a beast. He is. How is baseball doing? Paul Skeen's still undefeated?

I mean, he's still, he's unbelievable. He got smoked yesterday. Got pulled in three innings. Give him five. Came up fired. Those are probably like the most runs he's given up maybe in like four months. Oh, thanks for picking and choosing stats. I just happened to see it.

He's minus 50,000 to win the Cy Young. So I don't know, is that good enough for you, AQ? I didn't say he's not good. You want to throw to Dernardo. You want to spit on Dernardo's grave. too today. Oh, here we go. Yeah, just keep

jerking off Pittsburgh over there, relax. Well, maybe you need to show a little bit of respect to the city. I mean, you were going to have a coronary over T.J. Watt, not flipping sides. Relax over there. Just nobody speaking.

How many people speak good about Pittsburgh? You need to speak good about Pittsburgh. I love Pittsburgh. So I just saw on the plane last night, yanked after three innings. And how's your dad feel about it all? He shut it off after the first run,

guaranteed. Ah, they're done. They've been done. Why aren't the young guys up? The biggest Bucco's fan I've ever met is his dad. Now, Tone also actual Pirates fan, so I respect that. I don't know how you guys do it, but I respect it. I'm Paul Skeen's fan. Yeah, sure. Sy Young winner.

Again, right? Did he win it last year? I don't think he did. I don't think he did. He won rookie of the year. Yeah, he run rookie. And that was the big talking point. It was like, this guy probably should win Sy Young, but he didn't get it. But I think the idea was like he's probably going to win you know eight or nine out of the next 10 so we'll

just we'll give him rookie of the year give someone else Cy Young and then Kyle Rawley's still doing his thing he's slowed down a little bit I don't know if he's going to break judge's record he's really going to have to be hot because I believe there are eight games left eight or seven for the regular season so he's hit two last night and he either tied or broke Griffey's record for the Mariners. So he's still, he's still, you know, really hammering the bay ball, but now it'll come down to, is he going to win the MVP? Is it going to be him or Judge that wins the MVP in the AL? And we know who you want? The better player, yeah, who's earned Judge by a fucking long shot. This guy's part of every single play. I love Cal Rally.

He's got his ass down there, catcher every single play. He's in there calling. He's mixing it up on the defense side. Every single play. Judge is minus 450 to win the MVP. Well, that's because he's got people like tie out here saying, And we love Aaron Judge. I love Aaron Judge. You know why Judge is going to win the MVP? Because he's the fucking best player in the league. Cal Raleigh, his batting average is 80 points higher than Cal Rally's,

and he missed fucking 20 games with an elbow. Lucky, you know, I mean, his elbow's hanging on by a fucking shred, and he's out there playing the outfield still hitting home runs. I love Cal Raleigh. We met him. We talked to him. But we're talking about, we're talking about MVP awards here. We're talking about legacy.

Okay, we're talking about that kind of stuff. I get it. Catchers aren't supposed to do what he's doing. Both sides are the plate, too. He ain't fucking hearing judge. Okay. There's only one judgey. All right.

Exactly. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side. That was baseball. We did baseball, AJ. How are they're reds? Oh, they're doing great. Schwerber's killing it, though.

I know he's doing well. He's celebrating. Oh, yeah. What about NL MVP? Is Swarbo or Shohey? Some are on the Red. Price Chohey. Showhays minus $50,000.

Yeah. Yeah, Bryce Shohei. Shwerber's good, but that. again that's what these guys you know you hitting a lot of home runs is awesome you still you know still got a hit for average in baseball shorever's going to get a bag this offseason he's a big time congrats of him we love that i can't wait see what he buys i think that guy likes being out there in the country he does i think he really likes being out there in the woods i appreciate him he was great on game day game day this weekend diner in miami at the end of this show

we will uh i don't know if we'll run it it's long it was it 38 minutes or so it's a lot time. It's available, though. It is. It is available. Another college football convo with Stanford Steve. This is back-to-back weeks where we really did it. We're really doing a college football show, AJ, like a real one. Another one. Another college football combo. The title is a work in progress here. Do you think that sounds negative? The way you laughed and said it, is it a negative? I love everything about Stanford, Steve, and just another podcast out there for another guy. It's beautiful.

I love Stamber Steve. You know that. We're going to call it not another college football convo, but if you say it the way I said it sounds negative, but if you say it, not a noter, college football convoy,

that's a little different. So we're trying to make sure it sounds positive because it is, it is positive. I never thought anything negative about it. It could be like, not your grandfather's. There we go.

College football convoy. Not your grandfathers or utter fatters or another fodders. Yeah, exactly. Just really. really, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pot, pot. Order, art, yeah, exactly.

All right, work in progress, but we are a college football podcast host now. Mm-hmm. And it's fun. It's fun to learn about. Stanford Steve does a lot of research. Mm-hmm. He needs to stop burying cow bears, though.

I know Stanford Cal hate runs deep, but wait until the Calgary rhythm catches hold of what he said. I know. It was, that's a tease. Who's the guy you teased earlier? Clifford's minority owner Yeah, they just out of them Oh yeah

Well, I didn't say his name, I don't know his name Boom Pablo Another college football convo Boom, Stanford Steve Hell yeah It's available now You've seen the headlines

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You think it's going to be new lines? and do you think it's going to be riveting and entertaining? Or do you think you're going to say, I hate that I watch that? What are your thoughts on it, Tone? That's right around the corner here. I think it will be riveting and entertaining and insightful because AQ is always all of those things.

But if I know AQ, it's also probably going to be the same 50 lines because that's just kind of what he does. Okay. A little lazy, Sage Tone. Let's dive into it. This is in the trenches, top five performing offensive lines from week two. Let's go number five, AQ Shippley.

Here's the number five offensive line after week two. Number five is the Atlanta Falcons. Wow. One and one down there in the NFC South. What did you see from them? First of all, they ran for over 200 yards. Bijan was electric. Algier was electric.

They ran for over 200 yards. Let's watch this. Pace. They're going to run a little run blitz on the left side of the offensive line. Right there. Twist it off. Pick it up. Werner picks up the backer on the little cutback.

Bejohn. Wow. That's well blocked. Remember, you always liked the Atlanta Falcons when Artie Smith was down there. because of the way they set up runs. The new offense coordinator setting up runs pretty well down there, and do you enjoy what they're doing with Pennix? Obviously, young starting quarterback.

If you guys remember back to week one, whenever Kirk Cousins was there, they went with a completely different scheme. And then in week two, they went back to what they do best and got to the zone scheme last year. They have picked that up. They pick up Charlie Werner from San Francisco,

doing a lot of stuff from the Shanahan scheme. They're doing some really good stuff, and Bijon's electric with the ball in Sanchez. You're talking about just finding asses. That's what Bejohn Robinson's trying to do. Good vision. No, Dan Orlovsky said he thinks some of these running backs have bad vision. Did you see that?

No, I did. I mute him. He was talking to two us. It was earlier today. I meet him in my brain. My bad. Okay. I appreciate that any words coming out of his mouth aren't going into your ears?

No, no. They did. It's like Rain X. You got like Dan OX on the outside of the ears. His words just kind of just deflect that way. He said he thought running backs nowadays aren't seeing holes as good as maybe back in the day. Bijon doesn't have that problem at all. Did you guys see the video that I posted

by chance? Yes. Yes. Of Bijon? That was a past play. I don't know if you guys saw this. It was a past play in the game. I'm happy we have it on here. You can pull it off my ex. I'm trying to give them enough time. You can pull it off my ex. Talking about vision, right? He's got a good follow by the way. Thank you, shit. That's right. That's right.

That's right. That's right. But anyways, they run a pass play. Here it is. They run a pass play. There's two linebackers in the egg app. See how they are not blocking the one linebacker. This is a pass play. Okay? It just hits Bejohn in the arm because the center had a bad snap. He grabs it and talk about vision.

What? One little cut. This is a pass play. This isn't a draw. If this was a draw, the left guard would be blocking the linebacker in the left A gap. Pass play. Bad snap by center. Hits him in the arm.

Grabes it. Are you going to run the fucking play on this thing? What is the play? Are we going to see it? What's going on? right now. We'll get there. It's coming right now. It's coming right now. There it. It already happened. I missed it.

They threw it. Very subtle. I missed it. We're going to go back to the beginning of this thing. You're saying he... It was not a direct snap. Because if it was a direct snap, the left guard would be blocking the left A gap. Both all three wide receivers out in the route. Every single offense

alignment never turned this into a run block. If it was a direct snap, they would turn it into a run block. Add it to the playbook. Add it to the playbook, a direct snap where Bejon steals it basically and finds that hole. But you're talking about finding holes, I think they're, wow. Bingo. Look at how skinny he got in there and kept a vision. They're using Bejohn. Atlanta Falcons' offensive lines

doing their thing. They're number five performing offensive line coming out of week two. Who's the number four offensive line out of week two? The San Francisco 49er. Wow, undefeated out there. Mac Jones, who? Mac Jones. Who? Mac Jones. It was great to see this unit perform the way that they did because after week one, they said

Trent Williams was dead. Who said that? They said Trent Williams isn't the same. Trent Williams. Not us. They said he stunk. They did. They said he stunk. Everybody out in Seattle, and I think that has a lot to do with Seattle being better than we're giving them credit for. But this unit, back. They looked back. And when you look at this play right here, watch, we always talk about creating matchups. Send the tight end in motion. Leave them for the fullback. Canne Jordan thinks he's getting blocked. Boom, easy reach. Look at 64,

Brendel downfield. Keep going. Keep going. Put Werner on his ass. Oh, okay. A little bit after to play, but I do appreciate him driving all the way through to final whistle there. 49ers had been a staple of your best performing offensive lines. Then last year, maybe not as much. Now they're back to being who they are. Is that because Christian McCaffrey is the running back? Let me be very clear about one thing.

Christian McCaffrey is almost there. We are going to see the explosive Christian McCaffrey that we used to see. It is almost there. The burst is coming back. A little better after week one into week two. Watch out this week. Congratulations, Sam Ciccio 49ers back in top five. Are they going to be okay without, I mean, I know it's the Saints,

and there's still a good football team defense, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Kiddle and you check on that point, not in, obviously, but still able to do it with a backup, tight end, backup fullback. Will that, you know, will they still have that success without those two? Absolutely. I was talking about it earlier with some of you guys before the show, and listen, Shanahan does such a phenomenal job. You could put my three-year-old son in at quarterback.

You could put him in a tight end, you could put him in a fullback, put him at running back. He will find success. That's how good this guy is at design and plays. I love everything about that, and I appreciate the fact that Mac Jones was the guy he wanted. Yeah. Brock Purdy's a guy that he loved. He fell in love with. Exactly.

He fell in love with. He's the other guy, though. But in high school, Mack Jones was the one down the hall that Shanahan rarely. Mm-hmm. Then he got distracted. Trey Lance. Holy sure, look how athletic.

Went to college. Found something. Yeah, exactly. Bounce on a nice. Bounce around a little bit. Got a super bottle and Jimmy G. Yeah. Right him and did the whole thing.

Bounce around. Oh, new talent. but now he's got a chance to go what was that trip down the hallway like in high school that I never experienced that I wanted everybody knew I wanted one more credit is life I got it

you know the difference though they want ham I guess go ahead there's about 250 million reasons why they won't go away from Purdy this time around hold on now we're talking about love and the heart does some crazy things especially if you throw no picks

three touchdowns 200 in the first time that doesn't hurt there's a couple of those throws in tight windows I've Kyle Shanahan had made his heart skip a beat a little bit. He said, that's what I thought the hallway was. Okay, do you think that Kyle Shanahan is maybe going to fall in love with that one sweetheart that he let go? You know, and then now he has a chance to experience life alongside, and it's been good times. Now, Brock Purdy, unbelievable.

Will they trade Mac down the whole conversation? Mac will play himself into being a big-time trade target because of how many hurt quarterbacks already is. Or will they want to keep him as a backup to have good quarterbacks? How do you see the San Francisco 49ers situation shaping up in the long run? Man, I think they're going to want to keep Mac on the roster as a good, solid backup when they possibly could need him in the future. But it is going to be weird if Matt goes on a big run, and then all of a sudden Brock comes in and maybe struggles early on. That creates some issue. I don't know.

Purdy for Miles Garrett and Jerry Judy? I don't know. I don't know. Does that help the Niners a little bit? Does that help the Browns? A lot of it. Yeah, what's that? Did I just create the move?

I don't know if Miles Garrett will be in there. Hey, Jerry Judy going out to the San Francisco 40-N-N-ers. Now, granted, we love Jerry Judy and Doug Pound. Yeah. Jerry Judy is our favorite player. But I want him to win a Super Bowl, damn it. And maybe he'll be a part of assisting the Cleveland Browns into getting one, you know? Sure.

Maybe Brock Purdy goes there, and he is the guy that leads him. Maybe he's the perfect guy for the Cleveland Browns and what they need, you know, for everything he's able to do. but if Mac Jones becomes the guy and he got Jerry Judy out there alongside and everybody's healthy, he's backup tight end guy unbelievable. Unbelievable. Don't you? Imagine him and George both. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, now we're

like... Stop. And Brock Purdy, right? That's the ball. He likes them. Pearsall has been really, really good. And then, of course, Joanne Jennings, who got hurt week one, he had like a... Yeah, massive day. Yeah, 50-yard touchdown. So when Brock Pretty gets back in this offense, we believe that it's going to be great. But, boy, if Mac Jones plays really well here in the...

And then Brock comes back. in the first drive they go three and now and then the second drive maybe someone fumbles and then the third drive is that an interception maybe maybe cow i don't even know i don't know if he even gets out there because maybe the third drive cow looks over at mac and he you know hearts are popping up in his brain he's like i got to go with my heart damn it i'm sorry all this money out the window we want miles garrett anyways give me back joe it's crazy situation especially for brock purdy now Brock Pretty just got paid a lot of money so he can laugh all the way literally to the bank on any situation if he had to, and he's earned that money in there. But if the San Francisco 49ers are good, the NFL is good, sounds like their offensive line is going to be great.

Who's the number three offensive line coming out of week two of the NFL season? I love this unit, the Seattle Seahawks. Wow, one-on-one record out there in Seattle. Very easily, it could be two and oh. I mean, they played really well against the 49ers in week one, and it starts with their offensive line. They got a fullback again, oust the rookie out of Alabama. also the other circle Gray Zabel

rookie out of North Dakota State first round pick single let's beat the shit out of the nose guard double pancake at the second level Pittsburgh Steelers defense dead on this play you're saying

on this play two rookies obviously have three pancakes in one drive in one play is obviously something you're not used to hearing about the Pittsburgh Steelers defense are you saying this play or are you saying in general

the one thing that's concerning about the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is they've been punched in the mouth the first two weeks. They've been punched in the mouth. Both teams have ran the shit out of the ball, and this is the second run play from scrimmage. Jalen Ramsey just made a tackle with a corner there. I don't know if anybody saw it. Go ahead, Dee Bunch.

I know AJ mentioned it yesterday, but did they just get caught in a stem here at AQ? Like, what happened? What's Cam and, um, if you run back to begin? So they start to stem down, which that obviously helped. They tried to go from an under defense to an over on the snap, and that creates the huge hole.

The fullback also helps because now everybody's working back, fullback, couple pancakes. Yeah, box it in. AJ, your thoughts? Yeah, what were you saying? Well, yeah, they get caught in stem, I feel like within that 40, is it 41? He's got a, it's called box it in, hit it with his other shoulder, knock it back into your linebacker running, but you know, with the late stem, I see where the confusion might be.

He might not know where your help is. What is it, inside shoulder on the outside shoulder, right? Isn't that normally thing? In same shoulder, same foot? 41 was hit with his left shoulder and knock it back to your linebackers running over top. Yeah, inside shoulder on the outside shoulder of the fullback, I do believe. right is what you're trying to do yeah that's special teams talk right because we're all trying to stay in the lane call it boxers well do i mean i either you spill it or you box it spill it

it inside make it bounce outside or box it you knock it back inside i love that and he could have thought that maybe his fill and his help was coming on the other side because of the late stem i would imagine the late stem too it took away his gap may have changed and he's like oh okay here we go there's a lot of space here what am i doing inside like what am i box spill i don't know and then that happens so he's got to shoot his gun there basically whenever all the shit happens and he's going to try to go through the bad feeling. Yeah, it's a bad feeling too where he's probably, I wonder if he's thinking like

oh, maybe, I think at the last second he's probably oh no, I need to box this one and then all of a sudden it's too late and you're already, you're down and you're taking your buddy with you. Tone, what are your thoughts on what AQ just said about defense and maybe A. A.J. saying like, hey, this is just communication error maybe. This is not a sign of a huge problem. It's actually just maybe something they can get cleaned up

going forward, tone. I tend to agree with AQ because there was a huge problem at the end of last year and it didn't get cleaned up over the summer. So I assume, you know, in these short weeks preparing for games, they'll probably clean it up. This gave two different answers there, it sounds like, but the second one very condescending. Let's go to the number two offensive

line coming out of week two. Foxy, the Detroit line, McGo away, man. Welcome back. A lot of questions after week one, no Ragnah, no big Zitler, no, Rutledge might stink, but also no, skill, skill,

a lot of offense linemen that we've come to learn and love are all of a sudden no longer on the Detroit lines alongside the offense coordinators. Week one, we thought maybe they were done. Now they're back at number two. Why is that? Well, because they fixed their scheme. They went back to doing some of the stuff that they used to do.

They got Brock Wright and the wing right here, and they were going to run the Wham, which we saw quite a lot last year. They sent Ratledge, who's been struggling at the point of attack, but they sent him behind the center. Boom. Boom. Two traps, Gibbs out in space. Got brought in by the WAM block.

The corners lost in the sauce. Yes. That's what happens. That's what happens. You see the receiver go in, you're just done, right? there. The Detroit Lions are back to doing the motions and the shifts and the skips and the stuff like that.

Did they stop doing that week one? They didn't do any of that. They didn't do any of that in week one. That guy was right. That was right. You think MCDC looked in a mirror after looking at the film? He's right, man. Holy shit.

Why did we stop? I'm going to talk about that tomorrow, man. And they got right back into it. And it worked. They did it all game long. Is this a sign of things to come? Yeah, you got to hope. I mean, that's what they're good at.

That's their bread and butter. And look at Pentee Sole. That little kickout block right there, and to be able to hold that at the point of attack is incredible. Look at that. He's by himself on an island right there. Foxy, are we all the way back? Is this what the rest of the season is going on? Yeah, we're all the way back.

This is literally all I care about is that the Detroit Lions are on this segment. Because if they're not on this segment, the offense isn't going to work. Jared Golf isn't going to work. Nothing will work if we cannot do what AQ just showed us. And I'm very, very happy that he pointed out the rookie guard, Tate Ratlidge, because he has been taking it on the shin. for the last two weeks, so I'm happy he kind of bounced back. You bring up a really good point there about if you end up on this segment right here,

the team's probably going to be good. Isn't it crazy that that is the least sexy part of football, the offensive line, is the most pivotal? And you have been pretty accurate in projecting on who's going to end up lasting, which is why this is an important segment, which is why we don't love whenever you're showing bias and stuff. Yeah, you know, we don't like that. We feel like this week, maybe a little bit less biased,

We haven't seen the number one team yet. No, we have no idea what's coming here. We hope that this is an actual judgment and an actual read and an actual opinion, as opposed to maybe one that was bought or, you know, positive message or something like that. I'm assuming. No, no, never. You're wrong. Thanks too much.

Only tape. Are you kidding me? I thought it was going to be. That number one offensive line coming out of week two of the NFL season is? The most dominant team in the NFL, the Buffalo Beals. That's a buffalo. Coach fun on here. Okay, sounds good. I love that the bills are the number one offensive line in the NFL, strictly because we are such big Josh Allen fans.

I like that they're teaming those two up together. What did you see from the bills in week two? Well, let's take a look at this. We got 13 personnel. We got a tight end to the left. We got two tight ends right. Here's what I love it. This is a full zone to the left, but why this play works so well,

the inside tight end on the right, they block out, and they wrap knocks around. That creates the hole. Then you just wash the rest of the offensive line. So you are stretching one side, cutting the backside. That creates the big gaping hole. And they let James Cook. All right, Buffalo Beals, new stadium. New vibes.

Great play design, AQ. Sorry, Pat, that's great play design. One of the AQ with that little fold block. Huge. I mean, it doesn't always work out because tight ends are probably the worst blockers. They have the hardest job, in my opinion. They have to learn the whole offensive line scheme, and they've got to run routes, right? So they get the hardest job.

But when you can do that, you make it easy for them, and Knox does a great job just getting up there. AJ, to your point, it feels like AQ always appreciates when an offense coordinator helps people out on their blocks. Like, everybody tries to help out people get open. I think that's like a mindset like, hey, the way this play designer runs the routes or gets the route. So this guy's going to be open and get people open. AQ, it seems like you've pointed out a lot of offense coordinators or play design that set up an offensive. of linemen to be able to block somebody. Like, hey, we're going to actually fake a block on this guy so that he slows down so then you can earhole him. It's like the advancement

of that type of shit I think is good for all parties, AJ. That's like that's next level thing. Those guys that can scheme it up and figure, okay, hey, this is the front they run. This is how we're going to block it. We're going to just like make little tweaks here and there. That's what that's what's really cool. That's why I'm glad AQ does this because he can find those things and find those little wrinkles that the offensive coordinators can change from week to week because it's tough to actually execute it come game day usually. And he's watching every snap. Yeah.

Exactly. Every team, every snap. Yep. Every game, every game day. That's A. Q. Shipley. That's in the trenches. And here's your top five coming out of week two. This is just week two performances. We need to make sure we remind people of that. Yeah, there was a lot of people last week, especially the

Baltimore faithful. They don't like Falae. I've got to be honest with you. That's the one thing I noticed coming out. What do you mean? they want this guy gone. They want them gone. I remember that Dayton back into overreactions from the end of last year. You're right. They're not a huge fan of this guy.

Yeah. Good team, great too. What are we? Top O-London? How about the Philadelphia Eagles wanting the offense coordinator fired undefeated? They got to get going. They got to get going. Exactly. They got to get going up front. I'm being honest.

I love that. I agree. Hey, I'm on your 16 yards rushing or less in the first two games. Ooh. What's that about it? That's disgusting. I thought you had I thought you had 80 I might have 80 yeah but 16 quick one

what are you doing you're just being in the big holes you're not seeing the big holes you're not seeing the big this one we're talking about and this is what I was gonna fucking say by the way

and I wasn't going to say it until you just said that what's that the bills played the Jets the Lions played I got a great answer for this I can't wait keep going

I got a great the Colts played the Broncos and rushed for 190 yards I like where your head's I don't know where you were going I like that that's where you went and the Broncos

are like we're considered one of the best defenses and so again, I genuinely don't know and maybe like thorough line sucks and John Taylor was nasty. I just, I assumed the Colts were number one and that was the angle Pat was saved. No, I didn't know. I actually did. So I don't want

to kill the Colts O'Line because they don't deserve to be killed. He did have one big run. It was mostly on his own to be quite honest with you. And they got beat up in the interior of the pocket pretty consistently in this game. But getting back to the original point. You played a lot of football. You played a lot of football. E.J., you played a lot of football.

You guys know a lot about football. Can you control who's across the line? Nope. Nope. You just show up on Sunday and block the shit out of whoever's across. Okay, so you're going performance-based, not necessarily competition-based and what the game is. I understand. I appreciate that. And your biases are not showing you. I think the Colts could have cracked into the top five, but hey, land a falcon. Had them at six, actually. Oh, okay. I don't know. Room for approved. First two out. Hey, first two out. On the bubble. How far do you go? I normally put like eight or nine and then I and then I go back through and I rewatch and then I

okay these guys got to move up these guys got to move down do things like you'll see one play or two plays you're like yeah that's number four material exactly right that'll happen yeah wow it's tough to make that list you can ask Bruce and Dibone I sent them a list yesterday and then send them a redo oh I like that and that list the first list that you sent was not the first draft of that either

Well, maybe the Colts need to start creeping into that a little bit. They were, last week. Yeah, but I feel like you're not watching the right place. We'll send you the right place. We'll send you the right place. Actually, the clips you showed earlier showed the entire interior of the pocket at Daniel Jones' feet on the one. All right. They got a good defense.

They got a good defense. They got a good team. And Bordolini certainly did not know he was signing up for that for Broncos defense. This is good. This is good. This one's a good. good right here. Yeah, there's a lot of good ones. The Denver Broncos defense.

I'm talking about the highlights that we showed whenever it was the TV copy. We were showing off the end of time. Yeah, a little crossing route over the middle to number 11, and boom, I just looked down in the entire three. The Denver Broncos got good defense. Hey, let's watch

Quentin Nelson right here. Let's watch this real quick since we got this play. Boom! Yeah. Run his feet, run his feet, run his feet, run his feet. That's what I'm talking about. And also, he's motivating, inspiring, and leading the boys now. It feels like he is one of the vocal captains of the Indianapolis courts, which is good for the Indianapolis courts.

Okay, we will hope to get on to the list next week. Thank you for all the working. Thank you. Now we're just talking about the Denver Broncos. Everybody considers them a great D. David Dimes is a master conqueror of the Blitz, obviously. We learned that earlier

today. But what other good D needs to be recognized? Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for everything DB. Good D and bad D. Let's go. Let's go week two. Let's get to it. We had Derwin James on yesterday, so we'll start with his team, his defense, his secondary. Had a great, great night on prime time.

15 pass defense, six TFLs, three takeaways, zero TDs allowed. And you know what? They started fast. Let's get to the first pass of the game. Got a motion coming over, free safety, out of the middle of field. Defense is on the stream. Boom. Great break.

Great anticipation. And when you run to the ball, good things happen. Henley, the Power Ranger, had the flu game. running to the ball, game one, tips and overthrows, you got to make them count. And that's kind of the theme of this week. Those turnovers coming to add up.

And you talk about turnovers coming in bunches. A lot of the times, it's not all the time. The first guy that gets there, but it's the second, third guy. Just look at all the white shirts around the ball. Down in and down out. Pause.

This is who, yeah, if you go back and just after that tip is made when that ball is in the air, I'm sure AJ has heard this a thousand times. Shit, even the O'Line. O'Line has always taught to run and chase the ball as well. But just look at that.

That's a picture in a defensive room. you're counting guys on the first pass of the game. So you always talk about setting the tone as a defense. They set the tone. And Geno Smith never got comfortable with this entire game. Now, at the end of this thing, and pause. Pause. Pause. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

Obviously, all the charges are in there. They are a swarming defense. They are a relentless defense. The Derwin James stats, obviously, crazy. Him playing de-tackle and also playing deep safety is an insane thing. Like, they are a group that is all in. And the way you guys are talking about is they'll play zone, but it won't be a normal zone. They'll shift the man concept whenever it's in it.

That's just understanding what each other are going to do more than anybody else. And it's just, it's the opposite of what we talked about with the still has been on the tape. Like, you got to have trust. You got to have trusted because it's not like, hey, it's man to man. You get your guy. You get your guy. And even with man to man, you still have to have trust and understand where your help is. But when you're playing a zone defense, when you keep it an umbrella on things,

it's very important that you're confident and you're being accountable in your role. If I got a hook curl, I'm inside out, and I know that flat defender is coming outside in, and we should be vicing tackled. So every time a ball was thrown and caught, you saw even Genti. Genti had a couple great broken tackles, but you just saw another white shirt, another white shirt, another white shirt. And guys on the offense, they get tired of taking those hits. Quarterbacks, they feet get happy. They stop taking their eyes from downfield and start to look at the rush as opposed to filling the rush.

So it's great for this defense, especially when you don't have. Kalil Mack is still good, but they don't have. like that, Michael Parsons or T.J. Water, Max Crosby, one of Miles Garrett, one of those guys who just changed the math every day. They do it as a team collectively. Congrats at charge. Hell yeah. You think it was a good idea on that

play to block Killeo Mack with Ashton Genty? You think that was a good idea? I don't think that's ever. First best play of the game? Yeah, I don't think that's ever good. He did a good job. Yeah, he did a decent job. I just don't know that's the best design. Yeah, the concept, I mean, especially with his own

defense, everybody's kind of in this, you know, that's pretty easy. if you're a post-safety, look at Gino's helmet. Like, the reason we have that stripe down the middle of the helmet, so coaches, when they're watching film, they can see where players are looking. That black stripe, it went right to that scene route. And if I'm a post-safety, this is literally the ball I want you to throw.

Oh, my God. He thought he had that crib. Yeah, he thought of him. Yeah, oh, yeah. That's awesome. But I mean, yeah, you don't feel bad dropping a pick or bouncing one off if your guy gets up there and gets one, it's still a turn on. Great, great job.

And now it is. So, Liam Cole and some people, a lot of Jacksonville Jaguar fans, I don't know how the overreactions were with Brian Thomas Jr. Had an unbelievable rookie season. And sometimes, you know, I don't know if you start hearing footsteps, you start to have Alligator arms, but as a defense, and this is a different game with player safety, coming across the middle, you'll see Alligator.

You'll see, you know, Trevor Lawrence maybe throws a hospital ball here, but you'll see it much better from the back copy. You never want to be a football player on tape, you know, turn it down contact, avoidant contact. You can see it bright as day right here. And once again, tips and overthrows the theme, post field safety, wide receiver tips it. You'll see so many times a DV, a lineback, or a delineman, just drop this ball because they don't expect it or the trajectory is changed by getting tipped. But Jordan battle back-to-back weeks, making greater interceptions off of tips.

But as a wide receiver, as a quarterback, first of all, you want to protect them. If you are going to throw that across the middle, put it low, protect them, let them go down and get it. but as a receiver you don't want to be on tape putting this because now every defense knows hey if seven comes across that field whether it's a reroute whether it's a hit we want to hit them early and often because we want them thinking because now this is what you are what you put on tape and I expect brian Thomas to bounce back I think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback I like Liam Cohen I love Thomas Jr but yeah you don't want to be putting this on tape

if you're the quarterback or the wide receiver yeah you said something about injury yeah Liam Cohen came out after the game because this has been the loudest thing for Jacksonville and said that Brian Thomas Jr. went into the game. Yeah, there it is with a wrist injury already and that was, you know, part of the drop. We don't give a fault. Yeah, I know.

Calvin Shepherd, you heard. If you do your job, don't be out there. That's a tough look for him for sure. Great pick, though. There's no way that he thought that ball was getting through like that. You got to make that count. You got to make those counts because these turnovers add up. This game, especially with their quarterback turning the ball over

the way he did when you could get it back and get your offense. Great reaction. You can get Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, you know, more opportunities than offense. He was on the ground. He slipped and flew. Wow, what a play. All right, that's good thing for Cincinnati. That's tough for the Jaguars, but they're going to get better. Yeah, they will. They will. They will. And I expect the Eagles to continue to get better. They got some young players in the secondary. It kind of seems like they always do. But McCuver, the safety, rookie safety. He's a post savior right. He actually gets circle. Right now we got Travis Kelsey. I don't know what you guys used to call this route.

We used to call it Zampezeezy, but it's kind of like. like the follow route. Number three goes across, number two goes out, and then comes back in. Everybody runs it in some form or fashion. This is a staple in the West Coast type of offense. Travis Kelsey, I don't know how many touchdowns and first downs he has from this route. Mahomes anticipates it puts a good ball on him. But McCuba, great eyes, going to that second guy.

Boom. Tips and overthrows, running to the ball and not only catching the interception, but setting your offense up, offense has been getting explosive plays, Has it been doing this, hasn't been doing it. And then pause on that side. Go back to the wide copy real quick. I want to see the end of that because we always talk about one of the things Shane Steichen said too. The biggest difference of this year's team and teams in the past is the camaraderie, the brotherhood.

And you can see it on the sideline. You see it on TV copies. But when this rookie gets tackled, you'll just see that whole line of white shirts just conversion on them. You don't see guys buckling up and talk. We're all converging on to go to congratulate a young boy and then everybody will kind of go where they need to be. That's what you want to see if you're a fan of this team, if you're a player for this team, if you're a coach of this team. That's offensive coaches, that's offensive players.

That's everybody on the team, celebrating him right there. That's good vibe. That's a rookie. It's a rookie. Hey, that's a rookie football, by the other way. That's a hell of a play by Josh Simmons, too. I keep pointing out right away, but that, I mean, maybe Hollywood Brown catches him. But that's a pick six.

You're wearing number 71, yeah, catching somebody that far down the field? 18 miles an hour. 18 months. Jesus. He's running so fast and he's so big. After he makes this awesome tackle. He goes backward, like does a backflip because he's going so quick. Like, his momentum takes him so far.

Wow, striding out. That's impressive. Unbelievable. Never want to be in that position, obviously. Right. But, geez, and Travis Kelsey, never going to do it again. We've heard. That's what we think.

And McCuble, he will hear about that from the boys. Offense alive? You walk down by, let me pause that. Who was that? 71? Is that number seven? Is that number seven? Is it called you?

No, there's a one on there. Oh, no. What? 17? He had a great angle. He did. Exciting whites. Have you guys ever been caught? Cooper DeGie had a great reroute

in this game, too. We'll make the tape, but great reroute, put a guy on the ground, which is tough to do in the NFL. Sticking what kind of the rookie theme? Billy Bowman, Jr., playing a slot for them. He's been phenomenal, but the Falcons in their front office, they did a great job bringing these young guys in this year. The two guys off the edge, James Pierce, Jr., Jalen Walker, they've been playing great.

the Billy Bowman, Jr. and Xavier Watts on the back end have been playing great as well. This is his first two games in the league. Planning that slot, it's tough to do as a young player, as any player, but especially a young player. Nine targets, five catch is allowed, 6.2 yards perception, 34 passer rating, zero TDs in a pick. And this was a beautiful pick by him. Pre-snap, you're going to get some motion. Young quarterback offense, boom, comes out, squares up, gets there, watch the break. Out route, eyes break, and then make a great catch at the top of the catch there.

roll over the top, obviously rolled out of bounce, but this is great from start to finish. Pre-snap and post-snap, been on the same page. That is a tough route to stop from a stationary position, let alone the guy running and using that momentum and breaking outside. Just an unbelievable play by unbelievable player,

a young player at that, big time ball from Billy Coleman. Falcons offensive line, top five offensive line. Now we got this on everything, DB, good D, bad D. Well, it has good D. Wait a minute. Atlanta Falcons down the NFC South. You nailed it. I mean, those four rookies are playing awesome. Yes. The two edge guys are incredible and then I think both

had picks in this game, didn't they? Yeah, they both had a big. Another overthrow. So this wasn't a tip or an overthrow. The last one from Watts was an overthrow. Maybe just Jefferson got grabbed a little bit, but whatever, they didn't call it big time catch. And they're playing good ball. So even when they

aren't making the plays of a PBO or interception or a sack, like you turn on the tape, it would be hard for someone to believe that these are four rookies playing their first two games in the NFL. Unbelievable play by this guy. Can we go back to the sideline shot there? I think Rahim Morris.

Right in front of him. He has the joggers on, pulled up with the Js down. He looks very cool. That's head coach swag on the sideline. That's him right there, I believe. Jay's on, yep. Yeah, that's it. That's a great look, especially because I got the calves.

Do you play the next one? I think the side shot has a better shot of him. Look at him right there in the middle of it. Yep, that's ours. That's ours. That's ours. No way he fucking caught that. Did he catch that? Yes, he did.

Unreal play. Yes, he did catch that. Yeah, off his face. Yeah, well, Jason McCarthy, we saw it at the Rose Bowl. He almost had a, he would have had an interception, but he threw the football 100 miles an hour. That's right. He got going to catch it.

It was awesome. Congrats Atlanta Falcons. We have a team. Go ahead, Dee Buck. Trending in the right direction. And someone else trending in the right direction, another team that made the, in the trenches. Now, when you talk about Bad Dee, this is just inexplicable.

You got one of the fastest guys in the NFL. He's going to end up in the cut split in the slot right now. You got a corner and a safety. You, you, you, you. Like, I don't know. I know you got the crosser that kind of took Kevin Byer. I can't even tell you what coverage they were in, what they were trying to do. But one thing, you know, coming into the game.

And look, the Lions. That's fucking Jamo. Yeah, and the Lions, look. Isn't that all he done? That's literally one he does. Yeah, that's his gimmick. Two catches for 108 yards for JMO. Boom.

So that's his gimmick. So, you know, game. record-wise. It's going to be a long list with the Lions. You got St. Brown. It's going to start there. Then you got Gibbs in the rank game, even Montgomery maybe. But number one, you always have to be aware of this guy. You know, teams love taking shots around

midfield in the alumni section, but number more, you got to be there. Just, I don't get it on the back end. This is as bad as it gets when you get to defense. So early in a year, miscommunications are going to happen. He moved forward. Now, I think... That's preseason football. Exactly. Exactly. It's week too.

I got a lot of football left to play there. that's tough though that's tough especially just because and obviously I've never been on the field on the defensive side of the ball so I have no idea about a lot of shit but I have been in the meetings and it's like number one there

was certainly showed very large like a picture of them probably and then it probably just very bold words and very simple message real fucking fast deep ball that's probably what it said

if I'd guess here is the message that you need to know about number one here's the scouting report when he is on the field we're going he's going deep like that is what he does yes there's been a couple other guys throughout the history that is similar he's obviously had a lot of success here early and did in college as well and i remember him playing with like a broken leg or something like that in college he's incredibly tough but to not to just fuck it yeah that's that's not good i don't think an interesting move i mean yeah that's that's that's why this is this this this is the ups and downs i guess in the national football league a couple weeks ago against j j j mccarthy he had a

pick six, you know, on primetime guarding Justin Jefferson, then this week you are on bad D, but this is tough. You got to figure it out the Bears will miss Jalen Johnson, but I don't expect that from a Dennis Allen coach defense. That's wow. Good luck for the Bears. Yeah, good for Chicago. J-mo is fast.

Just know next time you play him, because you are going to play him again, he's probably something is fast. Coach McDonough McGahnow's game planning for J-mo right now. Yeah. Ravens on Monday. Oh, no. I don't know what the fuck they were doing in Chicago. That's why I got the hell out of there

Chuck's showing that clip Okay Jesus fucking Christ What are we doing What do you think this His name's Jamo What the fuck do you think Jamo fucking Deepall

Okay let's Look what the Bears do You see the number one That's the route He's gonna run He's gonna run straight Just like the number ones That's right

Bears are figured it out And obviously we are staring From a actual probably 200 foot view here Or 50 foot view Whatever it is much easier up here than it is on the ground but that seems bad it's week two though football week two football yeah week two football he got your backup playing with mac jones in here but he he was

spinning it he was figuring out this is a big down third and eleven up five points right here now these two guys are highlighted this is cover too but if we rewind it a little bit so third and eleven i'm not a big fan of like an over dramatic disguise if you're playing a too high defense because if you are that deep safety you don't want your disguise to kind of mess up you actually getting your job done so right here you'll have the left side deep half safety and he's about what seven yards off on the hash down here you let it run so he now on the snap he's trying to haul ass to get to his depth you got three receivers over there so pause two guys run short so now you only have one guy deep some defenses the middle linebacker that circle that run through i don't know how you guys

play at jay but you have Tampa too he would run with number three vertical to the passion strength and continue to carry them. Some defenses, if number two and number one, which are these two short receivers outside, if they sit down, that'll tell that run-through defender that they can shut it down. Why? Because I have two deep safeties behind me, and now they can converge on the deeper routes because there's not as many of them. They don't have that same stress on them. In any regard, the job does not get done, but it is not that route that hurts him down here to the front side. It's the route coming from the backside Jennings, right over the top of the defending, he catches it. And because of that

disguise, in my opinion, because of that disguise pre-snap, that safety never got in a good position to play his responsibility correctly. So even if this throw is made, it's a throwing catch. At worst, as a safety, it's in the definition of your position. You get them down on the ground, you line up

again, and it's, you know, first and 10 from the 12-yard line. But instead, it's a big touchdown. They go up the game. Obviously, they never look back, but it's a big-time throw by Matt Jones reading it, seeing it. And I think defensively not being in position pre-snap kind of set them up

for failure and yes great game by Mac Jones I know there are some rumors in the internet that probably started in the Thunderdome but Brock Purdy will be the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers but when you have a guy in there playing this is about you know being ready for your opportunity

showing up and showing out and that's what Mac Jones did we're just hypotheticals just talking about maybe predict the markets out here We're just trying to project what the future potentially looks like in this whole thing But Mac Jones throwing seeds like that Obviously We all expected

We know without doubt We all just knew That was going to happen And the Saints, exactly He said if you were put Oh we didn't bring that up Call him Can you call him back

Because he should take a little bit of a victory lap I'm surprised he didn't Me too Usually you just patts himself on the back He's probably got a big one plan for this afternoon A big pat on the back Yeah A huge it'll be a full breakdown

with an iPad. Yeah. Pat on the back. Yeah, exactly. They will actually try to go to the back to get more hands so they can give a bigger pat on the back, more pats on the back. Yep.

There's a chance he can't pick up, though, because he's got to figure out something else that someone else already said, but he says that he's the first to say it. Yeah, but JJ Watt said that he was the first one to say what Dano said that he said first. So Dano actually kind of got cucked seemingly twice here with ideas that he had right in front of his eyes.

Who knows what people outside of just this show have said before he is. It's kind of wild because, like, it's a lot of football. ball guys out there, like a lot of guys set through meetings, been in millions, and we're being told the same shit. So if people watch the film, you have stat guys, you know,

the pitcher starts to come together. But, Dano, Dano joins us, Dan Ologs, he did. Holy shit. Maybe you should be eating, Brad. You know what I mean? Maybe the vanity is paying off in the mornings beating the shit out of your body so you can operate. Hey,

we didn't give you an opportunity to celebrate. the Mack Jones to the Shanahan offense thing because you did to us and we buried you. So we would like to provide you a moment to go ahead and have your moment of victory. It's good that. No, I appreciate that. We'll see how this week's goes. But I always believed in Mac in San

Francisco, man. I was right. No big deal. What did you think about this play? This, him beating his cover two right here. Do you want to see it? Oh, you haven't seen. Oh, this is a good ball to Jennings. That ball is early. That ball is early. I mean, that's his strength, but you know that. I mean, anticipation, the ball to McCaffrey for the, that throws sick.

The ball to McCaffrey for the touchdown is really good, too. Like, it's good design. That ball gets cut loose, man. Yeah, man, you put on the info on. Dang it that. Yeah, that's all right. You know that, you know what that looks like. Who's it look like?

No, that place cool deep. Who's it looked like? Who are you going to say? because you've called people Tom Brady and then maybe you're going to say Brock Purdy or who are you going to say? I mean, it looks a lot like Brock Purdy, yeah. But...

This is the victory lap. Yeah. We did all of that to get to that. Yeah. Yeah, okay, got it. I mean, the real love, McCaffrey's been insane, but Mac played very good, very good. Okay, sick.

Well, we're... He's perfect for that offense. Go call him Bill and Brady then, you fucking asshole. Tell, hold on, though. Before you... Please. Jay J.J. I don't know if you heard what J.J. Watson. Did you hear that? I did, and I sent it to multiple people.

What you say that? Hey, J.J. said he already said this. I don't have any ideas today and nobody else's out. Is that what you said? No, J.J. didn't say he already said it. Yeah, he said it on Sunday. You missed that clip. Yeah, he did your whole thing on Sunday. During the game. Got to add that to the film.

Maybe you should listen to what he said. And then maybe you say, you know what? I want to echo J.J.'s kind of sentiment here. You know, that'd be cool. Jay J.J. said it during their game? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Too tight ends. The whole thing. Yeah, he did the whole thing. Fuck, man. He said he did it while talking about McVeigh's offense.

Yeah, under center. Back to the drawing board, brother. Under center throws. You saw that? Dan, you copy cat. Oh, no, Dan. No, I didn't see it. Can we call JJ? Can we call JJ, actually?

I don't see it. I'm just saying, like, that's the, that's, that's the, that's like, That's the model. Yeah, tight news and rams, bro. Yeah, sorry, big bruh. Okay, hold on. We don't know. Hold on. Let me see if he'll answer this. Dang, man.

Hold on, though. You guys should at least talk this out a little bit just to see if you guys, maybe collab on ideas. Yeah, exactly. You guys might be able to unlock the secrets to the universe in there. He might be also talking to the Espanio boys. It could be. Everybody put in your AirPods.

I'm not going to speak your language, but they can, hey, you're not talking to Spanish all okay. Hey, we're still alive. Dan Rolovsky's on. We just broke the news to him that he did not come up with this genius idea about two tight ends under center. You talked about it during the game. Is there any other things or ideas that you have that maybe Dan who can claim?

No, I mean, the Rams are obviously always ahead of the curve on anything, Dan, so I'm sure you've seen their three, five, and seven-step drop from under center. He's all over it. He's all over it. He's all over it. He's the only team. There are the only team in the NFL that's put on the quarterback underneath center and drop back. He's all over it.

You're all over it, man. He has just his entire take. This was his fucking thing. He was about to do for NFL live. This must be what happens when you work with the NFL, man. Yeah, it's cyclical, man. The whole NFL is cyclical. Yeah, it's all equal.

Everything's going to be under center. You have to be able to have the multiplicity and the option to do whatever you want. And that was what was really interesting talking to Sean McVeyer is he said that last piece of our under center offense that you didn't have to plan for before. was the drop-back pass. And so now we're adding that element in. So basically, they can run their entire offense out of understanding. Thank you, Jake.

We appreciate you making football better. Thank you for your brain. Thank you for everything for you doing for us for football. See you, buddy. Talk about a guy who knows ball. 100%. Wow. Dan, he's on it.

He got it. Beech it to it. Too slow. Maybe you should say. Let's not say, let's not say beached to it. I mean, let's not, let's not say that. Snorlofsky. He did, though.

Snows. Literally, Norloffsky. Yeah, a little bit too. Been talking about it. No. No, we haven't heard it. No. You haven't.

You haven't. You haven't heard it. I got open yours. Okay. All right, we appreciate you, Dan. Good luck. Maybe just say, as JJ said, and then you can get into your whole thing, do a virtual reality thing about it. Maybe have JJ come into the virtual reality.

Oh, yeah. Oh, actually, Dan, oh, I said this. That could be a whole thing. Or you could break his ankles. Oh, Carson Wentz. Maybe break both of your ankles. Yeah. Something to think about.

All right. We appreciate you. Dan, good luck out there. Thank you, Dan. What his eyes and JJ was going. Three, five, seven, step. Oh, my God, he's all over it. He's all over it.

Oh, my God. That was awesome. Sounds like Jade's got some good info from their production meeting. Yeah, sounds like Sean McVeigh actually gave him a little bit of game. Now, with his planar fascia being torn, will he still be like that in those meetings? We do wonder. Sean McVein, great shape. Still runs routes is what everybody says.

And that's how precious everything can be. One day you're standing there running routes with the boys. lifting with wit in that one gym, the village or whatever, then the next day your coach on the sideline you tear your planar fascia, okay, and not a whole life is different.

That sucks. I've never had it, but I've seen people deal with it. Your foot's part of everything. Your foot's part of everything. You know, it's like when you get an ankle. Yeah. It's like a part of everything.

Toe even. Get a fucking... The worst. 12 weeks. Joe Burrow, yeah, three months. Foot's good, said McVeigh. I did tear in my planar fascia. I see, yeah, well, that's a good thing

because I guess it allows you to heal a little faster, but I was being dramatic limping around towards the end of the game, but the MRI confirmed I, I fucking did hurt myself, because there's a lot of people telling him, geez, are you okay? I mean, you look terrible. Good news is I'm not playing, I'm just on the sidelines watching, so I have a little

cool limp to add some swag. Then you'll know why. He said a little dramatic. That's because somebody talks shit to him. Yeah. And then he won't go to the MRI. Yeah. Oh, really? Brought it in. Brought in the film. Told you. Well, McVeigh, hey, way to tough it out.

Yep. That's not fun. That plan of fact, it sucks. All right. Tom, why don't you come over here, brother? Good day of day. A lot of sex. Yeah, a lot of sex. We got a game tomorrow now. Back into it.

We made it. Week three. Good game tomorrow. Who is it? Bell's Dolphins. What's the line on that one? Twelve and a half. Stop it.

That's a lot. What's that, bud? We get an off night this week for Thursday at football. He said off. We can just go to bed and not have to worry about it. I love the fins at 24. 12 and a half. Yeah, Bill's, I don't think

Josh Allen's ever covered as a favorite of more than 10 points. Yeah, this is a different Dolphins team. A bill is 11 and a half. You like it or just 12 and a half? I like 11 and a half. Touchout on the field goal? Anything over 10.5.

I'll tell you what. I didn't see the field as well last week as I did the first week. But my brain has nothing positive about the dolphins. Sure. Even quotes coming out of the quarterback. DeBone, now that we have a Bill's hard fan, part of the group text,

we see everything that's coming out. Allegedly, Bleach report reported, that Tua said, I can't do half what he does. Yeah, there's a video of it. It happened. Now, out of context, obviously, it sounds like something. He's probably going to say that I'm a different quarterback than Josh Allen does.

Josh Allen's the MVP of the league, though. And all dolphins fans go, we need you, we might think that, you can't be thinking, you know, we already paid you. You can't be thinking, we might be. be able to think that at times. We can't have you thinking that. It's just, and I like to it, I appreciate it to it. I like McDaniel.

I like a lot of the shit, you know, that it revolves around Miami, but just like nothing is positive in my mind coming out of Miami. Nope. Nothing. And I assume that could all change. Okay, you have one big game, you have one good game, you know, everything can kind of flip, aura can flip. That's a very negative,

very negative. I mean, insanely. Is that just because we're around Gumpy? You think, AJ? You're not around Gumpy every single day? Do you think that's just why it is like that? I don't know. It's weird, but it is a great opportunity for them to turn their season around. If they do beat the bills, which nobody's

given them a chance, then here we go. Now it's a little spark that we need. Yeah, yeah. What happened? Now the question is, can they beat them? Can they beat them? I heard DeBone just sent a text in as a group. Rime time, too. They could do it. I know which way I'm leaning. All right, well, we'll figure that

out tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, it's going to get real bad if the charges continue to go, because that's when people will come back and be like, the Dolphins could have had Justin Herbert and they haven't really gotten there yet. And I know it had worked out at one point for both teams and it was

a situation where like, hey, either guy you're good with, but if Herbert does end up going, that is going to come back around and the dolphins will get shit for it. And there are a ton of teams that do that every single year. Yeah, yeah. That's not like a Miami thing, but I'm just saying you can kind of see that on the horizon

from Fin's Up Nation. Yeah, and Gumby's been fighting it for a while. He knows it's coming. Oh, everybody's so fucking smarter. There was a lot of people saying to take Herbert before that draft. I remember. Yeah, there weren't. Herbert was the guy that was like, this guy's just a smart guy from Oregon. He won the, he won the smart husband, not the football husband. Well, then Tom Telesco came out, who's GM of the Chargers. He was like, yeah, whoever the Dolphins took, we're just going to take the other guy. He was like completely, I'm cool with

both guys. Revision is history. Whatever the hell you want to do. Yeah, exactly. Herbert at one point he was like, okay, this is the princess problem. It's the number one pick. And then it was oh, we're tanking for tour. The league wide, take for tour for sure. So yeah, but I mean, he does have some big injuries coming in. All right, if this goes in, dolphins beat the bills.

Okay, here we go. Here we go. Gumpie? What was that? Gumpy did a four. Look, look, I'm going to, I'm going to throw on my dolphins tarp tomorrow and I'm going to have hope for whatever, however long it is. Five minutes,

10 minutes. You hit this shot. first quarter look I'm gonna strap up for game day okay you know I'm gonna believe I'm gonna do it over and over again because that's what I do you know it's just it is what it is we're terrible at football part of the dream hey if I make this the dolphins are gonna win gumpy oh fucking no now I'm gonna act like I care if this thing goes in it's going in gumps you got this it's for the dolphins I really tried oh oh I was close I went to university Yeah, good line. Now you can do the bills.

This one goes in. Colts winning the Super. I did the Steelers win in the Super Bowl. Yeah, no, do the bills to win in my now. No, because then the universe isn't talking. Maybe the universe is not here. Yeah, we'll find out right now. We'll find out right now if the universe is listening.

It's for the bills. Oh. Sounds like the universe really wants the bill. All right, we're kind of on it right now. Oh, but I think that other ball is on that one out. There's a hot situation. The universe counts it. The universe counts.

Wait, what's this for? Good call. This is incredible. I haven't touched a back for in 15 fucking weeks. This guy's on it. Yeah, fourth-town quarterback, brother. Okay, so this one's for the Colts. Super Bowl?

Super Bowl. Okay. I already did a Steeler Super Bowl, though, so that would kind of be... Did they win? The Super Bowl? Did they make it on that? Well, that would be this year. You can flush that one down to the toilet.

Okay. We go and out. Like three. You guys won a big game that first week. Yeah. I have eyes. It's done. Oh, no.

Week three? It's done. Yes. Were we putting over-unders on how many weeks did the Steelers believe? No, we should have been. Week three, I think we would all thought pretty early. Yeah. Especially to beat the Jets.

Now, if they lose to the Jets, I think he said that, everybody who's going to be out week two. Yeah, right. Beat the Jets, though. Now we're still a week three going, that team ain't doing it. I have an argument that I'm thinking in my head that I think your team not being able to stop the run is the worst thing that you can be a fan of.

I agree. Yes. Because you're just soft is what everybody says. And you're on defense a ton. Like, then you're just watching your team plays defense. Yeah. Because the ball is just moving right down there and all a lot of possessions. Demoralizing.

Have to score on every possession. If you don't if you punt once you are going to lose this one's for the Steelers to stop the run boom okay okay for the good of Pittsburgh a lot of pressure oh turn a run defense okay all right okay be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life for this thing together congrasses Steelers thanks a lot too we didn't know what the universe heard a point so it could be called Super Bowl or the Steelers run game run defense. So we'll see, I guess. We'll see Sunday. Yes, we will. Yes, we will.

Against who? New England, baby. What's for able to try to do? This? Punching dix. Okay. All right. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're listening together. Team on me. Great work today. AQ. Great work this week.

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