The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1411 - TNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Dolphins and the Bills, and how this might be a must win for the Dolphins with all the chatter ...surrounding them. Joining the progrum to go through some of the injury designations for the upcoming weekend and preview tonight’s game is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, Nebraska Head Football Coach, Matt Rhule joins the show to chat about this weekend’s massive tilt for the Bussin’ Bowl as Michigan comes to town. Later, Super Bowl Champion, and former Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers, Mike McCarthy joins the progrum to preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football matchup, chat about preparing a back up QB, what he’s noticed around the league thus far, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble-Aboe, the Thunderdow. On this NFL week three kickoff Thursday, September 18, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It is the greatest sport of all time, and week three of the greatest league on Earth will kick off its wonderful weekend. Tonight in the AFC East, as the Miami Dolphins will travel to take on the Buffalo Bills. The bill is 11.5 point favorites at ESPN bet you can find them as 12.5. half point favorites at a couple of the other books. The dolphins, a wounded, wounded. They're a mammal? Yeah. Yeah. Wounded mammal. Big brain. We appreciate dolphins, the mammals, actually.
Starting point is 00:00:43 They do like to reproduce, and even if they don't have a chance of reproducing, they will certainly hit that thing on your arm or your body if you're in there swimming with them, but they got big brains, okay? I believe the Navy SEALs actually use them to circle our ships out there, and they protect us. So we appreciate the dolphins, the mammal. And I'm pumped that Ace Ventura was able to find that snowflake the dolphin who was able to kick field goals because that's a wonderful thing. But whenever you think about this Dolphins team of now, you do kind of think about the Ray Finkel era of the Miami Dolphins. You think about the 1972 dolphins and how they were undefeated. You think about Dan Marino in the run that he had, but he was never able to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:01:21 But at some point, this Miami Dolphins team is going to be legendary. They reset the market for wide receivers when they brought Tyree Kill in. Tula, Tonga Voloa, is an absolute star. He's going to change it all. McDaniel, this big-brained offensive guru, wakes up at 3 a.m. That's right. This guy loves ball. Obviously, everywhere he's been.
Starting point is 00:01:39 He's been successful, and he's unique to himself. He's obviously one of one. We've never seen a head coach like him before. The Miami Dolphins, we're going to return to their glory days. Post Brian Flores' head coaching run there, which has resurfaced into the new cycle here as of today. But this was supposed to be a great run, and now we sit here. three years into the experiment. Tyreek Hill, potentially not going to be a dolphin by the end of the year?
Starting point is 00:02:04 To a Tonguevoloa, potentially not being a guy. And McDaniel, the conversation is, is this guy a good head coach? Well, we got a fun little stat for you as the dolphins are 0 and 2 traveling to take on the Buffalo Bills, as anywhere from 11.5 to 12.5 point dogs. NFL teams that are 0 and 2 and our dogs in week 3 have gone 37 and 17 against the spread. Wounded teams, teams that are backed in a corner, normally cover a spread force. Now, that's not outright wins.
Starting point is 00:02:33 No. That is not outright wins. That is just covering the spread. 11.5, 12 and a half feels like a lot of points for a Thursday night game, especially a division game between the Dolphins and the Bills. I believe the bills have won 11 of the last 12 against the Miami Dolphins, but they've been games. They've been games.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Just at the end of those games, one team is able to execute. One team isn't, which has kind of been the story of this Miami Dolphins team who are in a dog fight with the New England Patriots. just a week or four days ago now what will they do tonight we shall see obviously kirk and i will be on the call hell yeah we'll be waiting all day for thursday night time's always good for amazon pound pretty good little kickoff show they got over there yeah great great production value and tonight buffalo will be alive is this the last no it won't be the last game that we see in this stadium no not yet no because you're going to have a lot of prime time game here
Starting point is 00:03:23 Josh, we're going to see Josh Allen on the lights a lot here. We talk about everything about the Miami Dolphins on the flip side, this Buffalo Bills team is now they're ready to avenge the four falls. Yes. This team is the one that's ready to go. So in your head, you think to yourself, maybe Josh Allen and
Starting point is 00:03:39 Bosa's interesting photo there. Who is that guy? That is... That's a Bosa. I don't know. Bosa and Josh Allen obviously there for the... What the hell? That's not Bosa. Is this a bone graphic?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Is this a bone graphic? Is this a bone graphic? He's a Buffalo Beals fan. Did he try to make Bosa look the center? Is that Jay Glazer? Where? Right there, yeah. I guess I could see it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I could see a young Jake Glaser in there. Nonetheless. I thought it was Bronbreaker for a second. It does have a little bit of a Bronbreaker feel there on the right side. The Buffalo Beals, who are DeBones' team that he just adopted three weeks ago. They are potentially going to. win at all. They potentially best team in ball. Dolphins potentially worst team in ball. So them blowing out the dolphins is certainly on the table as well tonight for Thursday
Starting point is 00:04:31 night. And I think that massive question mark gives us a great way to kick off this week three. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, God. Cowboys AP tone is here. 11.5. 12.5 point spreads depending upon the book. ESPN bet has it as 11.5. That's big for a week three game, especially on a Thursday night game. That feels like a lot of points for any NFL game, let alone early Thursday division. Yes, huge, and that'll be tied for first or second, depending on where the line closes at for largest spread of the season. Last week, the Ravens and Browns was also around 11 and a half, 12 and a half.
Starting point is 00:05:05 The Ravens did cover that number. It wasn't on a short week, though. And this is one of those things, and you take a look at the stats, the 37 and 17-0-2 teams in week three as dogs again. And a lot of it is, like, people think they just look at that 0-2 number, and they're like, oh, this team is absolutely. absolute trash. It's not always the case. A lot of the time it's not the case.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But the sports books kind of think that. They build it in. They build it in the public, you know, to take away from the risk that they have. They've got to cook that into the number as well. But I have always been a guy who if losing bets upset you and you went to bed after tonight, like at midnight and you picked the dolphins and they lost by 30, you'd be like, what was like? Yeah, you're right. It is, you know, the pillow talking, whenever you have to talk to yourself. You could probably live the other way.
Starting point is 00:05:48 When you say I picked this Miami Dolphins team, this one, that we saw week one in the Lod House against potential best football team of all time. Exactly. Indianapolis coach. We have no idea what it's going to be at the end of the season. All these team stories could be anything. We could be looking at the greatest season of all time from 10 different quarterback, 10 different running, but 10. We have no – still so early in it all. But the way we're viewing the dolphins at this moment, they could also be the worst team in the history of ball.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah. They could be one of the only teams to go completely dove-feated. They'd be the first team ever to lose 17 straight games in a regular season. They're also the only team to ever go undefeated throughout the entirety. So the Dolphins fans have certainly lived both worlds, especially if you're 95 years old and you saw those 72 dolphins. Because if you're younger than that, you haven't really seen that part of it. You've only seen this particular shoe drop in the entirety.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But we have no idea what the rest of the year is going to look like. And maybe tonight's a night that Tua. Sure. And Tyree can get on the same page. It's possible. And maybe the mind. Dolphins come flying out. Maybe A. Chan stays in bounce on that cut. It's a long run. Let's go to the other half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys, Bubba Gompino, great jersey. You look
Starting point is 00:06:58 fantastic. I know in your heart of hearts, you're hoping that the dolphins do turn us around. And maybe you do have a Super Bowl team in there somewhere. And maybe you do have a head coach that can make adjustments and rally the boys and keep everybody on the same page. But in your brain, I think you're a little bit more negative than your heart is. Is that an accurate depiction of how Dolphins fans feel? Yeah, Josh Allen never lost. to the Dolphins at home as well. Only lost at Miami once, but you gotta show some pride
Starting point is 00:07:23 tonight. I'm telling you. Oh, we're at to show Pride stage. It's week three. Yeah, you got it. You got to fight. Because after this, you got the Jets and you got the Panthers. So say you keep it close tonight. Say you lose. Then you come back. You win two in a row. All of a sudden, you're two and three seasons
Starting point is 00:07:39 back on. You got to fight tonight, boys. Your back's against the wall. Show some damn pride. Don't lose by more in 12 and a half. Come on. Come on, boys. Gumpy's getting a dub tonight if this thing is less than a two-score game. Sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah. It sounds like he's been there. And also, I assume he's going to cook together alongside Connor, and they'll keep it in their inside voices. Not true. Don't even have an inside voice. That's true. That is true. Won't talk about it when other ears are around.
Starting point is 00:08:07 They'll have some sort of touchdown parlay, and tonight, Gumpy will find a win, is what Gumpy's saying. Conman, from listening to the way you're speaking, you are almost maybe always. way in the aquarium with the dolphins right now. Is that accurate? Yeah, I'm swimming with the fishes and my fins are up. I'm not going to go out there and say, hey, my fins are jumping out of the water and, you know, I'm having fun and the dolphins are going to win
Starting point is 00:08:29 tonight. I just think with the bills, you know they're a great football team. No matter what, you know, they could have played the two worst teams, weeks one and two, and we would still know that they're a great football team. With Miami, like, they lose to the Colts week one, you're not really sure. I think right now you can say the Colts are a very
Starting point is 00:08:45 good football team. So, like, that loss, now. Sure, after week one, it was terrible because they got their asses handed to them, but now it doesn't look as bad. The Colts beat the Broncos, like, okay, hold on, maybe the Colts are good. Patriots, you don't know. Patriots lose to the Raiders, and then they beat the Dolphins. You really don't know if the Patriots
Starting point is 00:09:01 are a good football team yet. So for Miami, you're not sure. And like, the idea that they're going to get blown out, completely believable. Josh Allen, and I mean, he just threw for 274 yards in the fourth quarter of a prime time game against the Ravens. He can definitely do that against the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:09:17 without a doubt, but hungry dogs run faster, baby. They need one. They need one so bad, or it really is over, not just for the season, but Mike McDaniel, all of a sudden, you're starting to think, does he even get a chance to play the Panthers in the stance? Like, tonight is kind of one of those times.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Jeez, you're saying, that seat's getting, uh, blistering hot down there on the butt cheeks of McDaniel. Definitely hot, Miami. You know, you're about to experience it. It's hot, no matter what. He's going to be sweating, you know, especially if that's like a metal chair in the sun. He's going to be sitting down and his axe cheeks will get burnt. But I'm more so thinking just like Thursday night, if you're going to fire a coach,
Starting point is 00:09:55 right, you got 10 days. You can at least, you can at least turn it around a little bit. Well, it's not week three. We've done this gimmick. We've done the two years. We've seen what has happened. They've traded, they've let players go who have then gone on to be all pro, Van Ginkle. And that felt like a layup. It's not like he was $100 million. He sounded like a two year, $15 million. The same they lose by 50 tonight. There needs to be some conversations potentially had or possible conversations to be had. Yeah, exactly. Just about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Gotta show some fight, boys. Got to show some fight. Like, Tyree Kill was number one player in football last year at this time. He got the huge award. He got the number one award. So it's one of those things where they don't have shitty players. They have good players, so they shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:10:36 getting beaten by 30. A lot of distractions in Miami. I don't know how anybody does football done. To be honest, I'm happy I didn't get drafted down there. I don't know if I would have actually survived. I have no idea if that would have happened and the best truck don a line oh is a ram truck no question about it yeah the hemi v8 is back fired up and ram ram ram raring to go get in on a motor trend has chosen ram ram 1500 as it's truck of the year oh oh wow we know motor trend motor trend's big deal they're not
Starting point is 00:11:06 just giving that out take the oscars yeah they're checking every bolt they're looking into every V, you know, even those four banging pieces of shit that are outside. That D-Bone showed up in his first couple weeks here. They're checking them all out to see who's superior. Motor Trend said, boom, Ramtruck's got it. The V-8 he'd be in back as good. You know, have me in there?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Happy that's back in our society. And Ram's truck also back on the track and returning a NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. Yeah. Love it. That's good. Pretty scared. That's all we're doing. Nope. That's what it's going to be it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You've watched it. So far. They're in New Hampshire as well you go. The Tracking Trucks here? Live for your dog, baby. They're going to have fun up in New Hampshire. Well, they need to get comfortable because next year, whenever ram trucks get back in that,
Starting point is 00:12:09 we already showed what it's going to be. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be flawless. It's got to be the worst. I mean, that's great. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who drives a ram truck every day. And when you look at him, you think to yourself, that's a ram truck man. You actually think to yourself, holy shit, does that guy actually have a hemmy inside?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Because all he does is just run his way through all of the NFL news, opinions, and obviously headlines. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, host of the Adam Schafter podcast, Adam Schafter. Yay! What's going on, guys? What does a ram truck sound like? Yeah, there are you. Close. Close.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Close. Especially whenever it's kind of wide over there. A third of a way there. I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. Okay, hey, let's look at tonight. We saw a stat from Josh Applebaum, which we appreciate. Great. name. It said that teams that are dogs in week three that are also 0 and 2, they've gone 37 and 17 against spread. Seemingly a lot of fight in week three because this does feel like the stats of a
Starting point is 00:13:22 team making it to Super Bowl or making playoffs after being 0 in 3, obviously much worse than anybody else, but 0 and 2 you have a little bit of a shot. Oh and 3 history tells us that's going to be a long road. That's a long hole to get out of. So is that why you think team show a little bit more fight in week three and at least cover? And do you think this Dolphins team is going to be on par with that? Now, we watch them against Colts week one. We're best team in both. We understand that.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Eyes on them. In the Lod House. And then against the Patriots, they were in that thing. Maybe you should have won that game. Are we giving up on the dolphins or how do you feel about them going into tonight? Listen, I think that they've played fairly well in Buffalo better than people think. And they've played well in Buffalo when it's
Starting point is 00:14:05 been cold out. It's 68 degrees there right now in Buffalo. And so the weather is not going to be a factor. And, yeah, the Dolphins gave away the game. If they hadn't given away the game last week and come back and beat New England, you might have a totally different perspective on the game tonight. But it feels incredibly lopsided. I think it's the biggest spread of the week on any of the week three matchups.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yep. And it just feels like Buffalo should do what it wants. But look, we all know what happens in these games. Weird things happen. Strange things occur. And all of a sudden, a team like the Dolphins, how many people are counting on, comes through and plays better than people think. That, I think we get a better dolphin outing.
Starting point is 00:14:45 They don't have the horses to match up to Buffalo, Tua himself has said he's half the quarterback that Josh Allen is this week. They can't do half the stuff. He's very self-aware. Yeah, I appreciate that. But, you know, that should have been followed up, but Josh also can't do. But it wasn't. Which is part of the problem, the issue.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Everything's negative coming out of Miami from our experience right now. And Gumpy, obviously, diehard Dolphins fan. So we live with every single news break, every player release, every pro bowler left out of the building, every leader, get out of the building, every conversation that seems to just come back up every two months. Is this guy on the team? Does he like being here? Does he not like being here? Coach everything about it, we've lived through Gumpy. And Gumpy's always, oh, literally that is the relationship that Gumpy as a Dolphins fan has with the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So tonight would be huge for them, is what I'd like to say, and huge for Gumpy. I got a good friend as a Dolphins fan. He starts ranting to me during these games that they're losing. And he doesn't understand. I love him, but I don't really care when he's going through his frustrations. Like, I love him. You know, shout out to Mark Patrick. Love you, Mark.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I don't care. I mean, that's your concern. I love that. Shefter's like, hey, Mark, you know this. I don't have personable conversations. You either have information or you don't. Okay, I don't. There's the opinion game.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I don't need to hear. Don't care. Now, let's talk about some other topics. tonight too and josh allen will be playing we are now officially maybe at five backup quarterbacks getting some playing time uh brock party might be back i guess that is kind of the report
Starting point is 00:16:17 coming out of san francisco yesterday possibly like they think there's a chance i guess we'll know more today i still think it's you know it's possible um we'll get a better idea today and tomorrow they felt last week when when we spoke with the niners over the weekend they're like brock party's gonna have a chance
Starting point is 00:16:37 next week. Not a great chance, but he's got a chance. And that was exactly what they said yesterday. So I think they've been holding out that he can make it back, but Mac Jones showed last week that he's capable of stepping in and playing well. He helped San Francisco beat New Orleans in New Orleans last week. So if they have the role with Mac this week, they'll do that. Obviously, they'd like to have purdyback, and we should have more clarity here in the next 48 hours, I would think. Okay, we're pulling for everybody's health. Obviously, this is a lot of quarterbacks out early. You kind of alluded to Jaden on Monday before any of us really knew anything about that potentially being a possibility. He's out with a mild knee sprain. Then J.J. McCarthy,
Starting point is 00:17:12 he's obviously out. Joe Burrow, he's obviously out. Who am I missing there? No, that's Justin Fields. Fields is out. It's like, this is very early for this many quarterbacks, or is this something we just don't remember until it happens? Well, you know what's funny? I said to tie this morning, I said, like, when you get Jake Browning and Carson Wrenz in week three, That's the kind of matchup that you feel like you normally get in week 17 or 18. Like, oh, it's Wentz and Browning. And by the way, the Bengals like Browning and believe in him. And Carson Wentz has been a great quarterback against the league for a while.
Starting point is 00:17:45 But it just feels a little odd to be getting that matchup in week three when we could have and should have been getting Dolboro versus J.J. McCarthy. And it doesn't go that way because of a couple of injuries here. It is early. This is an unusual amount of injuries. This early in the season for quarterbacks, there always seems to be a stretch in the season where all of a sudden quarterbacks start dropping. It occurred a little earlier this year, which is never good for anybody.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's not good for the teams. It's not good for the quarterbacks themselves. It's not good for the NFL, not great for fans. So hopefully these guys will get back soon. Joe is going to be on the show for a minimum of three months, but JJ have a two to four weeks and Jaden may miss a week or so. Brock Purdy will see if he can get back. fields in the protocol. The Jets play on Monday night next week against the dolphins, so he'll
Starting point is 00:18:36 have an extra day to get ready. I would think that he'd be back, assuming he can clear through protocol. But yeah, a lot of quarterback questions for this early in the season. Okay, you mentioned Carson Wentz there playing for J.J. McCarthy. We obviously experienced the Carson Wentz experience here in Indianapolis, and his good ball is so awesome. It is electrifying. It is great. And then his wild Carson Wentz experience stuff is obviously very cardiac worthy, I would say, through it all. What is KOC and what are you hearing out of Minnesota about Carson Wentz, the quarterback that he's going to be for them? And his six start for six different teams in six years, obviously people are talking about how that's pretty wild in an NFL record. But what are they expecting from
Starting point is 00:19:22 Carson Wentz? Look, they went out and signed him, and they traded Sam House. to the Eagles knowing that they can get Carson Wentz as the backup in there. Carson Wentz is somebody who grew up as a Vikings fan, always wanted to play for the organization, went to Vikings' games as kids, did the school chance, and now he's got a chance to kind of live out his childhood dreams there to go be a quarterback in Minnesota. And look, if he can succeed, that's going to be interesting because that's going to be a direct reflection again on Kevin O'Connell being a quarterback whisperer that he is. If he steps in and lights it up, you're going to start, like the way that Mac Jones did last
Starting point is 00:20:05 week for San Francisco, frankly, when we think of Kyle Shannan elevating the level of play of quarterback. So now that's at stake here for the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell. And by the way, if he plays really well, all of a sudden, you'd be like, okay, now you don't have to rush J.J. McCarthy back with them going to, you know, they've got to go to. Ireland and London Yeah, back-to-back games before a buy So again, if and when
Starting point is 00:20:32 wins plays well, then I think that takes some pressure off you in terms of getting JJ back. Who? McQuade's covering the game. McQuade is covering both games. I think McQuaid is on the call over there. Congrats to McQuade. Congratulations, McCoy.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Congrats my God. I'm happy for you, McQuade. You need to meet McQuade. He's an Irish legend. He does your job, my job. Ty's job Goddell's job God's job
Starting point is 00:20:57 He does In Ireland He is one of the Him and the Irish Pro football Irish guys They are They've been
Starting point is 00:21:05 They've been banging the drum Oh yeah For the NFL in Ireland For a long time The pipe They're getting a Yeah I'm sorry They've been playing the pipe
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah They certainly have Chugging the beers A lot of the beers They've been splitting the G Hop hop hop Hop Playing the live music
Starting point is 00:21:20 They've been doing The whole thing For the NFL For a long time Over there And getting a chance to see them get a chance to, like the NFL taking care of them. Yeah. I think he's very cool. I'm happy
Starting point is 00:21:28 to see that. Okay, let's say in the NFC North. You just talked about Carson Wentz potentially being the starter for the Minnesota Vikings for the rest of the season. Is what I heard? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Chance. What I heard right there? No, no. That's not what you heard there, but okay. No rush. Got it got no rush to get JJ back, though. That is good. Got an experienced vet. That's why you pay him.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Allegedly they also offered Daniel Jones. They were looking for an experienced veteran for whatever happens, whether it's injury or you know if jj just plays not great at all which we still have yet to see very young in his career i'm excited to see how that all goes carson went's experience could be hey oh yeah and i mean it could but it could also i guess have a little bit of a huh like sam darrell stepped in there and sam darrell lit it up like different style of play i i think different style carson went you know they say brett far of gunslinger that guy okay because he was he had trust in his arm
Starting point is 00:22:23 his faith in his arm Carson wants not only gunslinger he's a run slinger as well like he thinks his legs can beat everybody he thinks his shoulders can beat every he thinks every play he can beat everybody and it is awesome when he does it when he does beat everybody it's amazing
Starting point is 00:22:39 bouncing on a ball throwing that thing into five what it would five penta yeah yeah penta coverage I don't even know if that's what that would be throw it into five people on somebody and still make the catch. Yeah, zero.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Zero. Yeah, that would be exactly what it is. And then if he can, Sam Darnold, not saying as Carson, but if Kevin O'Connell can wrangle Carson Wentz into all the positives. That boy's going to fly. So, Winston Wentz might get $150 million.
Starting point is 00:23:12 It's about an MVP on our hands. All right, let's move forward. Let's stay in the NFC North. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Chefty, I'm going to have Foxy run this clip about the Bears. I'm going to ask you about Ben Johnson here. I think our practice habits are yet to reflect the championship caliber team.
Starting point is 00:23:26 He's a psychopath. I love Ben Johnson. I think this is awesome. Him talking about practice habits, everyone was kind of saying, hey, buddy, you're the head coach. Like, why don't you fix it then? That is a question for sure. I think another thing would be,
Starting point is 00:23:41 what about the quarterback? Feels like the quarterback and the leaders of that team would be someone who kind of figures practice out. What's going on in Chicago? it feels like it's much worse, much quicker than anyone could have really thought. And is there a chance that we do see Agent Bajon, Tyson Bajon play football this year? Boy, we're getting to the Tyson Bajon question in the early part of the program. It's not good, Chef D. They're paying them money.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah? They're paying them money. Listen, Caleb Williams, they brought in Ben Johns to fix him. I'm not going to tell you that eventually at some point if Caleb struggled that they couldn't get there. That's a down-the-line thing. And if they do, that's going to be quite the story and quite the conversation. I think right now, obviously, they're focused on getting Caleb Williams right. But there are issues.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He has a lower completion percentage this season than he did last season. So, again, the idea was to bring in Ben Johnson, elevate Caleb Williams, beef up the offensive line, get everything humming. And I think that this just shows you it's going to take a little bit of time for everybody to get acclimated. And when Ben Johnson's talking to reporters about the practice habits, sometimes Jimmy Johnson used to say that you don't speak to the media, you speak through the media. So I wonder if that's a case where he's speaking through the media to get a message to the players that our practice habits are not at a championship level. They're not where they need to be and they need to be better. Now, you could say that to the team. You could say it publicly and have people carry the message for you.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He chose to go the public route. And these questions are all going to come up as long as they don't win. Now they got Maddie Eberfuss coming in there. They're for coach. The Bears have lost six straight home game. Like, there are a lot of issues that they have to quiet down. And the only thing that stops all that is a W. That's it.
Starting point is 00:25:28 They don't win. The noise, all this noise, it's going to increase. But is the fengue of the sweet's going to be good? Remember Kevin Warren? That is perfect right now. Yeah, because Arlington Heights is where. Remember that from Hard Knocks? I watched John Taffer on Bar Rescue, and the people will bottleneck here.
Starting point is 00:25:46 but if we do this with this particular direction, we'll have good feng shui. I had no idea Kevin Warren was designing the sweets in the stadium as well. He nailed it. He's pretty, yeah, he did. If the feng shui is good, maybe they'll be good there. Maybe they're waiting to get to that stadium to be good at football. Or maybe Ben Johnson was just trying to put his.
Starting point is 00:26:04 We have seen this before, right? Matt Patricia, whenever he went up to Detroit, try to institute something that didn't end up working out. Cleveland, Mangini went over there. He had like 6 a.m. rookie Oklahoma drills taking place, I think. I heard horror stories about that coming through to our locker room. Flores, Miami. Flores trying never really worked out. But there has been obviously places where it has worked out.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yes. It's better that way, right, than then letting the team walk all over you. I mean, if you suck and you never get the whole team to buy it. It doesn't matter either way. So that's what I'm saying. Like, Ben Johnson's going to stay steadfast on who he is from what we've learned. The Chicago Bears obviously paid him a lot of money to be the head coach. We're assuming that they stick with him instead of like locker room needs to get on board with Ben Johnson
Starting point is 00:26:45 is how everybody feels in Chicago? No, it's his show there. Like, he's the guy, and he's got a lot of security there, as it should be. He waited a long time for the opportunity that he wanted and that he chose. He chose Chicago, and obviously there are issues to address. That's why he was being hired. All right, let's talk about some issues to address. Got big money problems happening.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Chefty, earlier when Tom Brady first became a minority owner of the Raiders, people brought up the, you know, hey, this is a conflict of interest, this cannot happen. And then it kind of just went away until we saw him in the booth on Monday night with a headset on, and then the report came out, hey, he's actually talking with Chip Kelly five to six times a week, you know, kind of breaking down the game plan and setting up what they're going to be doing on Sundays. And a lot of people weren't happy about it. From what you're hearing around the league or people that you're talking to,
Starting point is 00:27:38 is this going to come to a head at some point? Because I assume that most teams think this is bullshit, and they're irate about it. I think there are certain people, like there are coaches that don't like it. But look, here's the deal. Tom Brady's on the production team. He's coming into your building. You could tell him whatever you want or not tell him whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And Tom is smart enough and to see him enough football that he could scout those players and know what he needs to know about those players without hearing it from the coaches, too. I understand the appearance of it all, the conflict at all, but I'm not worked up over. Like some people are. I don't think it's a huge deal to me. Like, he is a limited part in the team. If he wants to go sit in the booth with headphones on and can offer some...
Starting point is 00:28:22 Call plays. Shit. Go do what he wants to do. It's his team. Score nine points this day. Yeah. Tom Brady's in the building. He owns the team.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Might out. Can't score a damn touchdown? Let me get these headset. I'm got Chip Kelly. Hey, you need to tighten up. What if he is just doing what Carly Ursa had been doing on the sideline? What if Tom just wants to do it? wants to hear what all the coaches are saying.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Let me see how they're communicating with each other. Let me see how they're talking because he could just be trying to evaluate his own business that he currently runs and currently owns. With that being said, a lot of other teams saying, well, why the hell would we let if this guy strategizing for another team, why would we let him in? And then Ben Johnson came out and said, we don't care. This is what Ben Johnson had to say about Tom Brady being in the booth and then also having to play the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He wasn't the only one. Paul this. He's affiliated with the Raiders, obviously, but you play next week. Are you going to do that pre-production meeting and get careful kind of how much you divulge it? I mean, I've been careful everything I've said since the season start. I've been in pure coach-speak mode. Big pop. Me, it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like Tom, and we have a really good relationship. So you please look clear. To Pat's question on Brady, you've got one of the most competitive people in the history of the sport, crying around for information. Just for the world. turn on the world. How do you reconcile the conflict of interest that exists with all
Starting point is 00:29:44 situations? Yeah. Like I said, I'm really not worried about it. I mean, we change week to week in terms of what we do. Schematically, he's going to be able to turn on the tape and see what everyone else in the world seeing right now. Personnel-wise, really the same thing. It's not like I'm going to sit down with him to, hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams or you might get it. Like, I'm not going to, there's not going to be any trade secrets that are going to be exchanged but I just I really don't think it's that big of a deal to be honest on that note chefty our source says have told us that a lot of those meetings with tom have become coach coordinator player PR person asking Tom questions about what Tom would do in situations or how like
Starting point is 00:30:27 quarterbacks have been taking the opportunity to pepper Tom Brady with questions and he's been very open allegedly wanting to give back to the game so interesting storyline here that's but with how paranoid all NFL teams are and how paranoid NFL fans have become, especially with what the Patriots have been caught up in, you know, in very public stuff. This is a perfect storyline for some real conspiracy fodder. But I think what the actuality of it right now,
Starting point is 00:30:53 now who knows what two years now, three years from now, four years from now, however long this goes. But right now I think it's a lot of people getting info from Palm. And what if that production meeting actually becomes Tom spilling the beans on Chip Kelly's what we like to do it's interesting chefty it really is interesting
Starting point is 00:31:11 by the way everybody should be going to him for advice everybody in the organization he can help everybody like he should be helping the coach some play calls and giving the personnel department ideas on players he likes and talking to the players about being more pliable like yeah i mean there's the reason he's the goat you know and by the way ben jonson wasn't the only coach brian schottanheimer came out and said he doesn't care
Starting point is 00:31:33 what he says to brady in a meeting and shon peyton came out and said he doesn't care. So you're hearing a lot of head coaches. Are there people, other people who are Leary? Sure, there are. I'm sure there are. Big deal. Again, if he's coming into your building, you control what you tell him.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Whoop you do? Just like if there's a reporter that calls up, like, I could, hey, what's going on to draft? They're not going to tell, well, here's our board, Adam. We're going to, like, okay? But don't tell anybody, right? Like, I mean, you're going to be selective with what you share and who you, you share it with. Use some discretion. It's not hard.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I appreciate the head coach is coming out being like, let's not talk about how those meetings are going, actually, because Tom, two minutes left. We have one time out. Okay, what are you? I think that is what. B.A. said the same thing. B.A. was like, there's production meetings are all bullshit. They're whatever you want them to be. Literally, whatever you want them to be. And we have Coach McCarthy
Starting point is 00:32:26 joining us here in the second hour. I'll be excited to hear his take. I assume he's on every coach's side that we have heard. But it is weird having an owner just waltz into a strategy meeting with people. It's first time ever, but Tom Brady's the first ever of who the hell he is. Go ahead, AP Tone. Yeah, Shephti I wanted to talk you about O and two teams. I think there's different levels to O and two teams
Starting point is 00:32:46 and the top level. Everyone I think assumes is the Kansas City Chiefs, but they are still O&2 with tough games against the Chargers and the Eagles last weekend. Is there any sort of panic that you're hearing coming out of Casey, or is it not panic at all? Because
Starting point is 00:33:02 they've started season slow, just like the Patriots who starts some season slow, And they're probably going to be there in the end. Well, I don't think there's panic there, but there are issues that they have to work through and correct to turn it around because we looked at it since 2000. I think there have been 118 teams that have started 0 and 3 over the last 25 years. And of those 118 won, the 2018 Houston Texans turned around and made the playoffs. So, you know, the Chief's margin of error is gone and they're in a division. where the chargers are better than people realize.
Starting point is 00:33:38 The Broncos obviously lost last week, but they're expected to have a good season. The Raiders have been tough. So I think they're in a tough division and a tough conference. You can lose games, and yes, we all know the talent and brains that are there, so we expect them to turn it around. But, you know, if they happen to lose Sunday night in New York to go to O and 3, that's a little bit of a problem.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And right now, you know, they're missing explosive players on the opposite side of football. It looks like they have a chance to get back Xavier worthy on Sunday night. Jalen Royals, the rookie wide receiver could be back. That'll also help some. So they need some reinforcements until Rishi Rice can come back in week seven. But oh and two, you're behind the eight ball. And so you just feel like you're playing catch up all year long. It's tough physically. It's tough mentally. They've won Super Bowls. They've got a champs mentality. They've got talent. But at O and two, you've got some things that you've got to work through. Okay, let's go to tonight's game, talking about things to work through.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Here's the full injury report that we have it right here as we look. It's week three. Gee. So anything that we need to look at here, anything before we make our picks at 12.5 or 11.5. That we need to know? Well, I think it's interesting that Storm Duck is out for the Dolphins. He was a starting cornerback at a position where they've already been decimated with injuries. And so that's a tough one to lose the number of players that they have. Storm Doc, perfect name for a dolphin. Yeah, absolute dog.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Hey, Storm, it's a great name, and he's a good player, and they're going to be missing him tonight. The bill's obviously missing those two defensive guys, Ed Oliver and Matt Milano. Those are two losses for the bills. Obviously, Jaylon Waddle questionable for tonight with the show that they're hoping he goes. We'll see whether or not he's out there. If he's not, then Malik Washington would have to step up and they'd have to rely on other people. But that Storm Duck one is the one that I think, to me, if I'm a Dolphins fan, worries me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:45 All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shafti. Thank you for joining us, brother. Thank you, guys. Have a great day. Hey, you have a great weekend of football. You too, my friend. Numbers are up across the board for football as a whole. It's a good time. How about Michigan, Nebraska?
Starting point is 00:35:58 How do you feel about that? Well, do you see the bet that those guys have for this week? The boys, the boys, yeah, not guys, the boys, the bussing with the boys, the boys, the boys. Yeah, the boys, the boys, the boys. Somebody's losing their hair, you know, for the team that loses. Somebody's losing their hair. Yeah, and I think there's a $50,000 donation and also a concession of the 1997 code title. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:22 This particular game. Holy shit. Yeah, obviously Michigan at Nebraska favored by one and a half. Will Compton has to feel very comfortable with this team versus any of the other team. since the bussing with the boys have started the Bustin Bowl. So the one that this one's the big one. This one's worth 50,000 shaving the whole head and also a former national championship.
Starting point is 00:36:42 This is a big one. It's a huge game, Shafti. Good luck to your Michigan team. Where's college game day Saturday, Pat? We are in Miami, Florida, Miami. Nice. Okay, great. Well, that'd be fun to go down there for the Florida Miami game, right? Yeah, it would be great.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Shafty, I am pumped to get down. I've never been done to the U. Okay. I've been to the city of Miami before, yes. I've played in a Super Bowl down there. But when you talk about the U, it's history to football, it's importance to ball. I've never been on their campus down there.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I guess we're going to go check it out this weekend. I can't wait. Florida versus Miami. There are some other games. Sure. A few. There were some other games that were certainly being chatted about, but I know the people at Miami,
Starting point is 00:37:27 from my conversations with them thus far, very pumped to have us down. like very eager to have us down the juice i would say that is a good way to describe the juice for us to be down there so that's that's really what i think is most important is like is the fan base pump for us to be there you know because that changes the whole show well but are they never are they ever not pumped for game day in an area well you're right i mean every very shout out to the college football fans that show up to game we're very thankful for them but there are some schools that get game day a lot and like i don't want to
Starting point is 00:38:01 that you know maybe there has been a little luster lost by some in some places. Going to Bama in Georgia sucks sometimes. And even potentially Columbus every once in a lot. Every once in a while we'll go
Starting point is 00:38:17 there and people are like, yeah, because Tennessee when it was ice cold, like took game day, you know? Like those places get it a lot. So it's like they're very used to it kind of being there. So when we go to places it isn't normally at, which for instance, last year, Indiana was insane.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That's awesome, right? James Madison a couple years ago, absurd. Yeah, absolutely absurd. Kansas was sick. Cow, Berkeley was unbelievable. Now, obviously, big games have to happen those weekends, but, like, Miami, we haven't been, game day hasn't been there since I've been a part of this, so I think there should be some real excitement.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They're great last year. Now, with that being said, Illinois, Indiana, the place would have won crazy. Yeah, that's big game. I'm in the Boston Bowl. Yeah. You know, maybe the Boston Bowl would have gone absolutely ham. Missouri I think has They do, South Carolina
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah, so that was a big one I think that people, like, there's obviously big games each week, so there's a lot of conversation here, but I'm excited to get down to Miami. They seem to be very eager to have us down there and obviously showcasing this Miami team and also, I guess, Napier's Florida team, because this could be the end. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It could be the end if that thing goes the other way. So there's a lot of implications this weekend, but yeah, we're in Miami. It's going to be hot as hell, Shifty. My last thing for you, before you kick me out of here, how cool Hey, there's no reason you can't come back and volunteer to punt for the Colts these days. Like, no reason. Just go for the pun.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Right? Good one, Schuster. Rigoberto Sanchez, when his time is called. We'll be up to fourth quarter, backed up in your own end. Got to flip field because field goal would win it for the other team. Rigoberto's first punt of the season. Yeah, we've not.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Good luck out there, buddy. Go hit a big one, bro. Need you to hit a big one. He will. He will deliver. Just like you do every time. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaefter. Yeah, Shifter. Joining us now, one of the coaches of the Bustin Bowl, ladies and gentlemen, we're incredibly lucky that he's been joining us every single week of this college football season. He's a host of a podcast called Haas Rules.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football coaching legend. He coached in the NFL, and now he loves his time with an undefeated Cornhusker squad, taking on Michigan at home as underdogs. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Matt Ruhle. Yeah, Coach. How you doing, Coach? what's up brother how you doing man life is good thank you so much for joining us how is life over there in Nebraska obviously we've been winning by a lot we've been setting precedent now we got a huge one
Starting point is 00:40:38 where your underdogs at home what is the mindset this weekend I think we're excited um you know this is an excellent football team coming in it's a big 10 opener and as you said it's a ranked opponent it's going to be a crazy atmosphere here and and we think we have a pretty good team so We're expected a heck of a game, a lot of fun. The Bustin Bowl is obviously what this has been dubbed because Taylor the Juan, I think a five-star recruit out of high school, first-round draft pick, incredibly handsome, very tall, represents Michigan. And Will Compton, the walk-on undrafted, busted grill, nine-year linebacker special team dog represents the Nebraska Cornhuskers from the Bussing with the boys podcast. Obviously, they've tried to make this a thing for a few years now. this year feels like getting very real in the momentum.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And I feel like you guys have your best team for this. And I think Michigan has being favored. They feel in a good spot as well. Is this the perfect time for the bus and bowl to actually launch into real in-season hype and expectation? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, we played the game two years ago. And it was, you know, everyone was here. Will was here.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Taylor was here. And, you know, they were a much better team. And it wasn't a very close game. And so, you know, it'll be a great game. There's two really good teams, and it's what the Big Ten should be all about. You know, good rivalries. You know, we're not too far away from each other. I'm sure they'll bring a lot of fans.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Our fans will be ready, and it'll be a great college football game to go along with all the other games. All right. Let's talk about the on-field stuff. Cincinnati was able to run a little bit first night, obviously, quarterback able to move as well. Is that the big conversation point for your team, is we're going to have to stop Michigan's run? Even though Biff is the acting head coach and he let Bryce spin it a little bit more than maybe Sharon, but that is that the, we got to stop the run, is the only mindset on the defensive side? Yeah, they're 15th in the country and rushing offense. And to your point, last week,
Starting point is 00:42:32 you know, the quarterback was the leading rusher. So the things that bothered us against Cincinnati, you know, they ran for 200 yards and over 100 of that was the quarterback. Just, you know, Sorosby from Cincinnati dropped back and found a hole and ran. And we didn't have a great answer for it. Obviously, that hasn't hurt us the past two weeks, but we're facing, you know, we're facing a whole different animal now. And so a big physical, line. You know, you know, that's what Michigan football is, right? They're going to, you know, they're going to run the ball and stop the run. It's true Big Ten football. And now they have a quarterback who can also run. So our guys are going to have to defend the run and defend
Starting point is 00:43:03 the quarterback run, you know, to play well. Have you seen Bryce at Big Ten days? Have you seen this 17 year old as of a month ago, now 18 years? Have you had eyes on this guy in real life? No, I haven't. It's weird now with the Big Ten because there's 18 teams. They do three days, and they do, I think six teams each. Of the five other teams than us, the only team that we played while we were there was Maryland. It was Rutgers. It was Ohio State. It was a bunch of teams that, you know, we don't even face this year. So it's really like the NFL, man, you don't know who you're going to face. Even the Bussam Bowl, like, you know, we faced him two years ago, not last year. We faced him this year. It's a rotating schedule, but he's really talented,
Starting point is 00:43:40 elite recruit, and he's done a great job for them. You know, we think we have a really good quarterback, too, and so excited to go compete. Yeah, tell me about Dylan. Obviously, this is the biggest game of the year, much more comfortable where he's at. Emmett, obviously, a dog in the backfield. Tell us about your offense a little bit, taking on this Michigan defense with, you know, a defense that hunts over there in Michigan, always going to bring a lot of different disguises and everything like that. Yeah, I mean, it's Wink Martindale, you know, I mean, he's one of my favorite coordinators in the national football league. He's brought it to college. I mean, they're lead up front.
Starting point is 00:44:14 They can blitz. They can show a bunch of different stuff to you. But, you know, we have a really smart quarterback in Dillon. He can try to get us in the right play. He can try to get us in the right protection when he's fooled. He's not a great job. You know, he's completing 77% of his passes yet he hasn't thrown a interception and really only one that even had a chance to be intercepted.
Starting point is 00:44:31 So he's a really, really smart football guy. You would love him. He's a football guy. He's in here all week, study. And last week, we finished the game last week. I went to Vegas to watch Bud Crawford, and he's texting me pictures of him in his house. He's already watching Michigan.
Starting point is 00:44:46 He's trying to outwork me. And so I respect our quarterback Dylan quite a bit. So it'll be a great chess match him versus that Michigan defense with what they do. Hey, coach. Hope you're enjoying Allegiance Stadium in Big Las Vegas is what I got going on. How about Bud? Obviously, a Nebraska guy, anybody can be a nobody. We had him on the show earlier this week,
Starting point is 00:45:05 and he was talking about how everybody doubted all the people that he fought in his record. And he basically said anybody can turn into it. to a nobody whenever he looks at it. And I've seen you kind of adopted that as well with the messaging that you're sending the players. I think of your strength coach was talking about it in your office. Yeah, no, no doubt. Since I've gotten here, you know, I've always known who obviously Terrence Bud Crawford is,
Starting point is 00:45:25 but getting to know him, I mean, he's elite. He talked to the team last year, let us out against Colorado. And literally there was no chance we were going to lose once he would, once he spoke to the team and he started walking up that tunnel, I was like, this is different here, you know, pound for pound king. and then, you know, I went to his send-off and he had so much respect for Canello. He was talking about how they're both first ballot Hall of Famers. Yet when they went to the way in, I showed our team, he wasn't talking about if, if I beat up,
Starting point is 00:45:50 if this, if that, he mean, he risked his whole legacy. He was talking about when, you know, when. He's never even knocked down. And so we went to that fight, man. I was just, I was so fired up, so happy. You talk about a big day for the Cornhuskers, man. I mean, he's got the Nebraska end on his mouthpiece that he's fighting, you know. We go backstage afterwards and see him and all his guys are all wearing.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Husker Red, I mean, he's loyal. And so it's a great message for our guys, man. No stage is too big for you when you put the work in it and you believe in yourself. Oh, I love that. Coaches being able to utilize anything for their own motivation for their own team hype is glorious, let alone when you got the guy, literally in your backyard. I was talking to people that were in the boxing road a little bit, and they're like, you know, Canello moved.
Starting point is 00:46:31 He's lived in his life. He's had a couple hundred million dollars for a long time. You know, maybe things a little bit different. But still lives in Omaha. He's got seven kids. Like he is, you know, still, I don't want to say in the grind, but still very much, like, doesn't even realize basically the money or hasn't done any of that. And I picked Canello to win because I thought he was heavier on the show. I did that.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And I got a call that night from like three people that were like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, bud still. Did you see, Bud? Did you see what he looked like at the way? And did you, have you heard the way he's talking? It's like, and he's American, we need him right now. It's like, I messed up. And then you watched that fight, and it's like, in the ninth round, Bud wasn't scared of shit. bud was like let's go let's go hey he's he's he's he should be a harder puncher than he's
Starting point is 00:47:14 ever faced yeah let's go dance here i could lose the entire fight just with one catch and instead he stepped right into the fire it's like massive respect for both them but also definitely for bud and we saw that end oh yeah we saw that in a lot in the biggest fight of the century they're calling it and right right on the mouth i mean it's a it's a cool thing for the brand good for you tone is a question for you yeah coach you've one of the best play callers in the country if not the best player caller in the country, a veteran and Dana Holgerson. But it was a very rare move. You brought him in, I think
Starting point is 00:47:43 it was week 11 last year. How big was that for him and Dylan to get some actual live game experience last season before the, for spring ball, before summer, and then the offense looks like it's flourished this year? Yeah, you know, no one had ever really done it. You know, we
Starting point is 00:47:59 lost to UCLA a week after playing pretty well against Ohio State, and I called him and said, hey, I need you here. I need you to get this fixed. The guys are working hard, but Um, we need, we need something moving forward. And so I think it was pivotal because, you know, Dana had to decide if he wanted to be here this year. And he finished that year out and he said, yeah, I'm all in for this. Like can him and I work together? And it's been an unbelievable relationship. And then he and Dylan. I mean, every, every team in the country, uh, came in and, and, and, and, and, and, hey, come play for us. Come play for us. And, and, you know, he believed in what we're doing. He's a, he's a husker. But he also believed in Dana. And so I think that time, um, and then we kept the staff. Like I said, Dana, do you want to change? anybody out. How do you feel? And he's like, no, I like these guys. They're good coaches. We'll make this work. And so it's, to me,
Starting point is 00:48:43 it's been a unusual move, but one, I'm glad we made because everyone came back this year and were significantly better. I bet Dana loves just being able to focus on the offense side of the ball than all the bullshit that comes to being a head coach to at this stage of his career. Yeah, a couple times I said to him, like, what do you think? And he'll give me
Starting point is 00:48:59 both perspectives. Like, well, you know, you can do this, this. But that's your job now. He's so happy. Where's my Red Bull? it. I got to worry about one side of the ball for you. That sounds like a you problem here, buddy. I've been there before. He was great offensively for West Virginia and obviously down to Houston and him just being able to lock in on that without having a deal with all the politics and all the handshaking and everything like that. Feels like it's great for him. Sounds like it's great for you as well. Connor has a question for you, coach? Coach, with the last two weeks being
Starting point is 00:49:30 not cupcakes but teams that aren't ranked like Michigan, it feels like, you know, the videos we saw of you We're very raw, raw, rod, you know, getting the team going, making sure they stay locked in. Is it different this week when you're playing in Michigan where everyone is kind of, you know, zeroed in laser focused at all times because it is such a tall task? And, you know, you did just mention right there, Bud Crawford leading Nebraska out, and you went to Bud's game match, rather, last week. Can we expect Bud maybe to lead the Nebraska Cornhuskers out on Saturday? You know, I don't know that. I mean, he, he, I try to call him their day, and he's like, hey, I got the Mac if he show right now, bro. I don't, oh, oh, oh, yeah, I mean, I, people have reached out to me.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I mean, I'm talking about superstars that don't know me, but they're called someone out, like, I mean, what he's done is, to your point, it's a fight of the century. Chappelle, front row, yeah, going crazy. It's like, that's one of the biggest, yeah, yeah, I understand. He's no, I mean, so, yeah, so I don't know, I don't know how that'll play out. I mean, he's got a lot of things going on, but we know he's, the day that he decides to come in, we'll be here ready for him. You know, I think the thing that the videos that we released, I mean, those were both at half time. And so to me, like leading up to the game, though, you always have a different approach every week, depending on who it is. Like, if I have to sit here and yell and scream about, hey, we better be ready.
Starting point is 00:50:46 This is a, you know, I think everyone here knows what the University of Michigan means and they know how good of a team this is. You know, we better be pretty locked in. For me, that was about at halftime being like, hey, this isn't good enough. And, you know, year one, I couldn't have done that, you know, with all the team. Year two, we kind of could, but some guys have been like, why is he saying this? year three, you see our players. I mean, it's one thing when they show me, but our players are saying, hey, this isn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And so we understood playing the teams we faced. We're trying to get ready for the Big Ten because the Big Ten is a different animal. And it starts this week, you know, we've been working to get ready. On that note, Ty is a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I believe the Big Ten is currently like 42 and 5 or something like that in that, in that neck of the woods. And a lot of people, you know, there's still. Top 15 teams, I think.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah, yeah, there's still a lot of the talk about, you know, the SEC being the Superior Conference, and then people were even cherry-picking early in the years saying, hey, look at all the cupcakes, the Big Ten teams are playing. But every week when you have a game like this, because we know who's at the top of the Big Ten currently, and we have a couple team, you know, you guys are one of those teams who are kind of right there. Does it feel like a lot of these games are almost like playoff eliminators? So, because you know every week in the Big Ten, you're going to have a team that, hey, if we don't play well, we're going to get beat and we might only have, you know, one or two opportunities.
Starting point is 00:52:02 you know, for the rest of the year to actually solidify our chances of being in the playoff. Yeah, I think I think the SEC is an elite conference. I think the Big Ten's an elite conference. I think, you know, two things can be true, right? I think the one thing that the SEC has done a great job of is they've branded themselves as the SEC. And when you look at the last 25 years, I think four teams have won national championships. You guys can, I might could be wrong. Yet when we talk about the SEC, we talk about all the other teams as well. It's not just the Alabama's, the Georgia's, the LSUs, the Florida. It's, it's the whole league. And so people, you know, the, the tier of guys that are like nine and three,
Starting point is 00:52:35 ten and two, they, you know, they still get a lot of street credit when we do the voting and all that. You look at Illinois last year, you know, took Penn State down to the wire. They finished nine and three and they're barely in the conversation. And the big ten, we talk a lot about the top four teams. But, you know, this is the, I said in a podcast, house rules, not the, not the free, free shout out, just joking. But I said like, you know, division one football is the only football league where weather doesn't have an impact in the off season, in the postseason, like in the NFL, being in Buffalo, being in New England, being in Kansas City when it's cold, like you have to play through people's homes.
Starting point is 00:53:08 In the FCS, Montana, North Dakota State, those places matter. The Big Ten, man, you got to go on the road, you got to play in the weather, you got to play in differently. We're trying to plan out going to Maryland and coming back and going to, we're all over the country. And so I think as a league, we have to do a great job of talking about the Big Ten, not just Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, those are great teams, but Illinois, Indiana, USC. There's a Washington
Starting point is 00:53:31 playing for the national championship two years ago. Hopefully us. I mean, there's a lot of them. So to your point, you know, you don't have a lot of free chances if you're not in that upper conversation, but there's really good teams in the Big Ten. I think the Big Ten's really strong, top to bottom. Yeah, I think the conversation's going to change. I've mentioned this a couple different times. I don't know if you've heard me say it.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So if I said it to you, I apologize for repeating myself. But all of a sudden, whenever the ranking happens at the end of the season and the college football playoff is being talked about, we have an SEC team, a good SEC team, traveling into Big Ten, and the style of roster that you have to have in the Big Ten at that time in the most important ball certainly paid off. Going to have to be a little bigger. Can't be as fast.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You've got to have a little bit more of physicality. You can't just run four-threes everywhere because it might be negative 55 degrees or whatever the hell it was at Ohio State for that game. So interesting dynamic, obviously being added into it. Everybody understands the Big Ten, the SEC are at the top, but the Big 12 got Rich Rod. Let's not forget that. And the ACC, we'll see how it goes. Hey, last question here quickly, because you need to get your opinion on this.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I've talked to a couple different coaches now about the transfer portal going from two times a year, both in December, January, and then also in May or April. I forget which one is spring in a winter one. They've cut it down to just one transfer portal, and it'll be the one in the winter. Okay. What are your thoughts on the December, January, in the middle of college football, playoff transfer portal being the only transfer portal window, and what are your thoughts on going from two to one?
Starting point is 00:54:54 It feels like everybody's on board with that. Yeah, I think I needed to go to one. You know, you would negotiate with a player, and all power to the players, but you would negotiate with a player in January, December, January, and then have to renegotiate three months later when there's no, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:08 you haven't done anything. So that doesn't happen in the NFL. And so it should be once a year. You know, you make a decision, and then you play that year out. Number two, I, and most of the Big Ten coaches wanted it in April and May because, you know, we pay the guys July 1st to June 30th.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So in the NFL, like the league year ends, you know, you get paid for the, the year we're going to have in college football we're going to have players getting paid by two different teams in the same year that doesn't make doesn't make any sense to me and we're doing it that way because basketballs you know everyone's using the same the same money so it doesn't make as much sense but I would I would have had the portal in the middle of September for all I care to get one portal it's it's it's better for the players they don't need to be transferring to twice or in the sprint I mean I just think it's way better but I would have done it in May yeah I think
Starting point is 00:55:52 I think the playoffs should never be touched by players saying to themselves you know my staying, am I going? Last year, Penn State's backup quarterback left in the middle of a playoff run, because he had to do it was right for him. I'm not saying anything about a Lobo. Just, just those things shouldn't happen, in my opinion, with the portal, but some really powerful coaches wanted it. They wanted it in January, and, you know, no one, no one asked me. Okay, so on that note, everybody I talked to would have preferred the April, May one. Everybody preferred two to one. Everybody's like, need to only have one. Everybody agreed on that. But everybody, to your point, was like, the one in, after spring,
Starting point is 00:56:26 like, so we know what we have, you know, and then also we don't worry about the playoff conversation. Nonetheless, it will all get figured out, right? Always does. Well, we'll see. Always does. You're the man. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Nebraska Cornhusker football team, taking on Michigan this weekend in the Boston Bowl, Maroole. Thank you. Good luck, coach. Go get him, coach. Every coach I've talked to has said, the spring one. Yeah, because that's the one that makes more sense.
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Starting point is 00:57:36 Football is the greatest sport on earth, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chitch chat about it today. Week 3 of the NFL season will kick off tonight as an AFC East battle will captivate us all. Will the Miami Dolphins show any fight and cover? anywhere between a 12 and a half and an 11.5 point spread? Or the Buffalo Bills continue to be the team that we all think they could be this year.
Starting point is 00:57:59 The most dominant team in the entire NFL. Will the reigning MVP, Josh Allen continue his back-to-back MVP run? Or will two with Tonga Velo and Mike McDaniel figure out how to be a football team again and win against the Buffalo Bills and change the trajectory of their entire season, maybe their careers? We shall see in front of a captivated crowd up there in Buffalo that will be celebrating the hell out of the last year in this stadium before they make the big move.
Starting point is 00:58:23 to the big bison stadium that is right across the parking lot. Tonight we're in for one on Amazon Prime. We got Kirk Curb Street, Al Michaels, and Kaylee Hartung on the call. And then for the kickoff show, dogs everywhere. And look everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Richard Sherman's there. Wits there. What? Fits there. Carrissa's there. Tony Gonzalez is there. What? And all the other participants.
Starting point is 00:58:47 In which there are many. It always got some gimmicks and games to play. And then in the post show, if you're up after the game, They do a full... It's like 1.2 a.m. That's a full thing there. If you just happen to be a little bit of a night owl,
Starting point is 00:59:00 they will certainly take care of you with a nightcap, I do believe. Not that nightcap, but Primes. Yeah, right now. Two shows with nightcap right now. Okay, I think Primes is, yeah, you get it. A little different. T.N.F. Nighter. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:59:15 There it is. Vastly different shows, though. That's one half of the hammer. Down! Cowboys AP tone. The Toxit tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who's a college football national champion,
Starting point is 00:59:28 Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's in the middle of changing his hairstyle, you can't tell because how good he looks. AJ Hawk. Yeah, Harvey Hawke.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Hasn't even been a topic of conversation over the last few days. I think we've gotten to a good stage of it all. How are you doing, AJ? I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? I really enjoyed the ram truck advertisement. You guys ran a little bit earlier. Well, we did run that.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, we ran that. That was a pre-recorded advertisement. that had to get approved, obviously, by all parties and signed off on. And I'm sure that really moved some ram trucks today. I bet it did. I assume people are going dine a line to get themselves a ram truck. Tonight, though, AJ, AFC East Battle. Everything negative seemingly about the Miami Dolphins are my thoughts, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:10 especially after watching them. Now, the Indianapolis quotes might be the greatest team in the history of football. That is TBD, period. Okay. Not question mark. Not mockery voice. Okay. That's actuality, brother.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Danny Dimes is on a loaded roster with an offensive guru, but they made the Miami Dolphins look very bad to start the season. Very, very bad. Not a great way to kick off an entire vibe run for a Miami Dolphins team that was maybe entrenched and a little bit controversy. First time the Tyree Kill has been on that team, he's not been named captain.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Obviously, at the end of last year, there was what it was where he said, I don't know if I need to be here. Then Tua came out this year during training camp and said, you know, it takes a little time to heal from some things that are said. And it also takes some time to heal from shipping all your pro bowlers out of town and seeing if you can be a football team, Galen Ramsey, John Huss Smith, Callais Campbell, you name it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Get the hell out of here. We don't need you. How's the team going to be? Well, they start out O&2. Put up a lot of fight against the Patriots last week. Will they do the same against his Buffalo Bills team, AJ Hawk? I mean, I think they are definitely going to put up a fight. I mean, I think I said a couple of days ago, like, this is a great opportunity for the
Starting point is 01:01:10 Dolphins. That's the way they have to approach this. Yeah, we know they're up against, what, 12.5 point dogs, maybe or even more, depending on where you look. But if the dolphins, like, just think of what it could do for their season, that the Dolphins find a way to win this game. This is like a turning point. It's a turning point.
Starting point is 01:01:25 We're going to go one way or the other, and if this is one of those years that we can hopefully have some kind of success, like we'll look back on this week and say, hey, there's where it kind of turned around, and there's where we find a way, we kind of found a way to put it together against a great Buffalo Bill's team.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I know we're talking about the season and everything like that, and I don't want to be dramatic, okay? Not a dramatic person. No, never happened. I don't really. I wouldn't overreact anything. No. Not in the moment at all.
Starting point is 01:01:51 No. But you're talking about maybe career-saving nights tonight? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you mentioned it. I think if... For a lot of people. If the bills throttle the dolphins, like, I don't think... Drier, I don't think it's crazy to think that both those guys get fired.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Two? Yeah. Already time? Like this early time? I don't know. Connor mentioned it earlier. Week three is so early, but if it is a drumming on... I think there's a chance.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I really, I really do. Especially with how flat they were against the Colts for it being week one, and then, like, they basically gave away that game last week. If they, like Gumpy said, hey, they just got to be competitive. If they get beat by 28, you know, four touchdowns or three touchdowns tonight, I think there is a chance that at least McDaniel gets fired. I think I'm being a little dramatic, but it's very early in a season. But we happen to be around a Dolphins fan.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So I think that is why maybe we cover a little closer. Could be. It's just like the Detroit Lions before they became the brand new lines, and they were still the same old lines. We covered a line strictly because Foxy, who is here, was a Lions fan. I would like to watch this Lions team so that I can understand what mood he's going to be in and maybe talk shit to him
Starting point is 01:02:55 about what's going on with his emotions and feelings. So we've been covering his Lions transition and change throughout the very close. Long time. I'd say closer to anybody that has had, although we were just a small regional show, much closer following of the Detroit Lions here over the last five years than anybody else.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I will say that other than local media talking about the Lion. You guys witnessed the heartbreak that Lions fans went through for all those years. you understood it so then now they're good it's awesome yeah it's a brand new lines now with the dolphins it's the same thing with gumpy and boy i remember the excitement when this era was starting oh my god trading for everybody signing everybody they're gonna win a playoff game paying people remember there was rumors uh all alleged we did not make this up this has been reported out there there was rumors that maybe the owner was trying to lose games for the dolphin yeah this came out after the season a
Starting point is 01:03:49 in which Gumpy, who's a Dolphins fan, said, it feels like they're trying to lose. So then when the owner comes out, allegedly, was potentially, this is all reported, we're not making this up. This was alleged. We did not, this is the thing. Telling the coach, I'll pay you more money
Starting point is 01:04:06 who lose some games. 100 grand. Okay, so the fans have to go through that. Fans have to be like them. Don't even want to win. What the f? Can we get some money, maybe? For us trying to, how does this even become a thing?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Not saying it's real, I'm just saying it was talked about. So for that moment, from that moment of Gumpies, fandom, okay, when it's like, I knew it, they're definitely trying, they're not trying to win. That's course. Then that it gets debunk, goes to court, whatever the case is, kind of disappears, whatever happens there, I don't know. Other stuff started coming up, yeah, a little bit more prevalent in that particular story.
Starting point is 01:04:40 But from Gumpy at that moment of life when that was being alleged, once again, not real, I don't think, I don't know, actually, we don't, do we know? Not sure, no. Right, never find out. Yeah, I don't, not real. We'll say it wasn't real. Legally, yes and no. It wasn't real.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Okay, we'll say it wasn't real. But at that moment, when it was being reported, Gumpy was down here. I committed my whole life. They're not even going to say, I'm sorry. Not one time. No. What's that about?
Starting point is 01:05:05 This team, I've given so much, too. They're down here. Then McDaniel, Tyree Kill. They pay the most amount of money in Y Receiver. Yeah. We're not paying money to lose. We're paying the most money for a weapon on the offensive side so we can be explosive. So that ride just watching him go from the depths of hell all the way to euphoria town.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And then now what we're standing down week three with this team is just, it's heartbreaking for our guy, Gumpy. And he painted too many ships for him to be this heartbroken week three in my eyes. I think that he probably represents not all Dolphins fans, but at least some Dolphins fans that are like, man, are we ever going to get it right tonight? I guess we find out if they can correct it or if we're on a path to full rebuild. Yeah, and that's what stinks, too, is like, that taking, you know, us back all the way there when it was the Flores situation was crazy, because then I remembered the first initial McDaniel thing. Like, Gumpy wasn't sure about, too, really.
Starting point is 01:06:00 No one really was because he wasn't getting a fair shot. McDaniel comes in. He's like, hey, you're the guy. Like, I'm going to make you great. Tyreek Hill. They also signed that year was the number, the number one free agent was the left tackle, Toronto Armstead. They signed Armstead. They got a good old line all of a sudden, like going back to that time.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Braden Jalen for Ramsey. Bradley dropped that year during the season. Had it all. Had it all. When did it go bad though? When did it start going bad? Last year, right? Last year, the end of the season, I think, is when it really started.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's a good question, agent. Would that be when it was Gumpch? Yeah, Tua's record over the last 16 games has not been good. Like, actually, like, every other season you could say if Tua was hurt, we were bad. Whereas the last little while, even if Tua is healthy, we are bad. Like, we haven't been a good football team. That is the biggest word. This is the first time in, as long as I can remember, all the Finns faithful agree, everybody's pissed.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Okay, I like that. Like usually there'd be like some people love Tua, some people hate Tua. The whole fans, all of them are pissed and everybody. Did I see Tua on that mountain? He did. He was at the top. He sure was on Cuck Mountain. You see a lot of Tijuana.
Starting point is 01:07:11 The tweet actually said enough is enough. He's finally made it through the top. Was I on that mountain? Years and years ago. I was on that matter of one, which means I am enemy number one, basically, of the Finn fan on the internet, basically. That is, that's what it felt like, at least whenever I got put on there. It was an honor to not be mentioned amongst the Mount Rushmore's of Cuck Mountain down there and the Finn's family. It was nice that I got out of there because I did become a believer because I think you became a believer.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They put two on there now. Wow. That's how you know. That's how you know. It's how you know. It's how you know. It's like, big one tonight. Big way, I go, Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Oh, man. What's that? Just going back through it again, not to mention just like the ups and downs of the concussion stuff. Oh, Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah, did you, like, going all the way back to, like, when it started with Josh Allen to the prime time with the Bengals, where he got slammed by the D-Tackle, like, it has been quite the right.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And then he came back from that, too. It sucks. But they're going to show fight. 12 and a half two. Yes, they are. We are two of fans. Uh-huh. We are Dolphins fans.
Starting point is 01:08:14 It has not looked good, but almost beat the Patriots last week. I GPTed earliest firing since 1990. Scott Linnehan for the Rams was fired after O' and 4th Start in 08. Dennis Allen, O'N.4th Start in 2014. Joe Philbin, a 1-3 start in 2015. And Bill O'Brien in 0-N-4 start in 2020. Okay, so it feels like you're going to make it at least four games. Philbin was in Miami as well.
Starting point is 01:08:38 That was him getting fired by Miami. And is that when MCDC won in interim? Yeah, I believe so. I'm not positive. All right, wild times. obviously, Dolphins had MCDC in the building. And Ben Johnson, too. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Yeah, you're right. I mean, we'll see how that all goes. We have some breaking news, AJ. What happened? What happened? Yeah, I'm trying to ask. Greatness happened. Do you remember the announcement of the WWE and ESPN partnering,
Starting point is 01:09:04 the world's greatest entertainment company, sports entertainment company, going with the worldwide leader in sports, finally coming together to become a superpower partnership of sports, entertainment. Do you remember that announcement? I do remember. So then you know that Russell Palooza this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana, at Gainbridge Fieldhouse is kicking off this partnership and it's
Starting point is 01:09:24 going to be a massive night. You know that, right? Yes. The show starts at 7 p.m. Eastern Time on the ESPN app. W.W.E. is bringing it in a big way. John Cena, Brock Lesner, on the marquee.
Starting point is 01:09:40 You have, in a lot of people's the greatest of all time in John Sina, a man who had a 20-plus year run at the top where he didn't miss a show, an absolute workhorse, a man who is absolutely shredded, goes from being a guy laughed at, basically, who worked his ass off, to
Starting point is 01:09:56 becoming the guy in the business for over two decades. Then obviously goes into Hollywood, takes over, does his thing. He's on his last run right now. In the WWE world is saying, thank you to him all across the world. That's because he has done such amazing things.
Starting point is 01:10:12 the guy he's taking on the alpha male of our species a man who was so fucking good at wrestling that he got to the top of it maybe at the youngest and the quickest in the history of wwee then whenever he conquered wwee he said in my body in my mind he's built to do more what do i'm gonna go try out for the nfl rain of four four in jeans becomes a de-tackle never playing the sport before for the minnesota
Starting point is 01:10:37 vikings all parties agree if you were to put about a year of work in this two years of work into this you could potentially become like a Hall of Fame NFL player even though you've never played the sport before he goes oh thank you you know and then he decides that I'm gonna go and do the UFC becomes their world heavyweight fucking champion and beating people up his arms are so long his hands and fingers actually dangling touch his shins whenever he's walking around he's built to be a destroyer he knows that and he has executed that he's become a goat in multiple places and him and Sina are going to be battling for one last time here in Indianapolis, Indiana, and it's going
Starting point is 01:11:15 to be must watch. It's going to be show stealing. It's going to be something that's talked about for generations and generations. And that fight will be taking place at the top of the show. Kicking off the ESPN-WE era will be John Sina versus Brock Lesner here at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana. This is obviously gigantic. What a way to start.
Starting point is 01:11:39 the best partnership I've ever seen and the smartest partnership I've ever seen between ESPN and WWE and also two goats going at it. So that's breaking news, AJ and I'll let you kind of digest that and take that all in, but just know 7 p.m. Saturday, it's coming
Starting point is 01:11:55 out with a bang, brother. Hey! Hey, do we know if the roof and the window will be open? It's a Gainbridge field house. Come on. My bet. I assume the roof of Gaveball are going to go in the stadium. So listen, this would be a stadium This is a stadium match.
Starting point is 01:12:12 These two are a stadium match. Oh, yeah. Russell Paloza, though, in Indianapolis, has not, I mean, we had Triple H on, what was that? Last week, and it was like, hey, ESPN had a date. They asked if we would be able to do a show. We certainly love that idea. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:25 So I don't know if, I don't know if stadium was pitched or presented, but whatever the case, this is a stadium. This is a history box office. This is a must-watch fight, and it'll happen to kick off the entire partner. That's good shit.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Let's go. That's good shit. That's good shit. 7 p.m. Kick off the show, right? So, boom. They're coming out first. Yeah. Good move.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Boom. Yeah. Genius. Yeah. That old fucking thing. Yeah. And then John Cena, I love the way he's coming out with the black screen.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Oh, yeah. And then we'll drop it into the end. Yeah. I wonder if it will be. What? I wonder if he goes old school. He just goes no black screen. Oh, you're talking about him going
Starting point is 01:13:07 Thuganomics? Going all the way. back. Yeah, if he comes out with the chain and the hat, that'd be sick for sure. Your time is up, his time is no. That's right. Who knows? Anything can happen. That's what he said. That's Russell Blues and football. Anything can happen. What if he comes out as peacemaker? I mean, there's
Starting point is 01:13:21 good. And you just shoots him in that. Ricky's the Nicky, maybe. I mean, there's a lot. I think I think John scene is probably going to be the one that shows up. But anything is possible. Is Dimes can be beer? Yeah. Dane Dimes Saturday night? He's going to be screaming. He's more of a Sunday night.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's sent his manager for this one. fun as like an honor being an Indian. Welcome to the city. Yeah. Thank you for coming to the city, says Danny Dimes. I respect that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Super Bowl champion head coach.
Starting point is 01:13:49 He's from Pittsburgh, which obviously makes us love him immediately. He is currently enjoying a year off from head coaching after coaching the Dallas Cowboys. What does the future look like? We don't know, but we're appreciative that he joins us every single week. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy. Yeah. Goh! Gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Coach, you see, John Seeneman. You're seeing a Brock Lesnar leading off that show. You all right with that, or what are your thoughts? I'm heading to Indies as I get done here. Yeah, there is. Hell yeah, good place. We would love to have you here, obviously. We're very pumped that you're coming.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I'll let the WWA note. You might be sitting right. You might be in the ring. Might be in the ring. Go in there. Get in there. Might have me in the ring. You want to slide in there
Starting point is 01:14:33 and maybe hit the ropes a little bit. Coach, thank you for joining us. Week three, obviously, kicks off tonight. AFC East Battle, 12.5 point spread now at ESPN bet and multiple other books. I don't even think you can get 11.5. 12 and a half feels like a lot of points for a division game on a Thursday night. How do coaches view these short weeks? And if you're these coaches, what is your messaging to your team?
Starting point is 01:14:57 Well, I mean, I've always liked the short week because, you know, I think particularly when it doesn't go great on the prior Sunday. But yeah, this is a tough one here because, you know, Division game, like you've already stated, Thursday night, you know, Miami going up to Buffalo. I mean, but, you know, you look at the numbers and you watch the first two games. I mean, Buffalo is really rolling right now. I mean, just the way the, you know, the ball distribution, Josh Allen's playing at an MVP level. I just like the way their defense is coming on.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You can see that at the end of the Ravens game and then obviously last week. So, you know, in Miami's, you know, they've turned the ball over a little bit. So, you know, I definitely think this is a favorite. a favorable game for Buffalo, but that's a lot of points. God, AJ. Yeah, coach, let's say you're trying to defend Josh Allen in this offense. What can you do? A quarterback like Josh that is so dynamic can beat you so many different ways.
Starting point is 01:15:50 What are you telling your defense to do to try to contain this guy? Well, it's two-fold. I mean, they do such a good job with staying on time. When I watch them play, you know, they're in sync. I mean, this is an offense that's played a lot of ball together. And I think that's really, you know, things I always watch for in September football. You know, you look at the teams that are playing well offensively, it's usually illustrated by a group of men that have some time on task together,
Starting point is 01:16:16 and they look really, really sharp. But his ability to extend plays, you know, and when you've got quarterbacks that can, you know, exit through the A gaps or exit through the B gaps, extend plays and obviously turn them into huge gains. I mean, that's a tough task for the defense, especially early in the year. Defenses, you know, their timing, the wrestling, discipline, all those things, part of that September football, you know, they're going to have to have it tonight because this, he's going to make plays and then the other part of it, he can throw to any spot on the field. He can make any throw out there. So I just been so impressed with him the first two weeks. Josh Allen, reigning MVP of the NFL, every offseason he's only gotten better. This offseason, he got married. We'd obviously like to congratulate him for that, but he's also gotten better somehow. This Buffalo Bills team, very fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And on the flip side, people are saying dolphins have gotten worse. Ty is a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I remember a couple years ago in Dallas, when you guys were in a little bit of a rut, you went with the Gallagher gimmick, and you started smashing watermelons in the locker room. We all heard about it. We all loved it.
Starting point is 01:17:23 When there is this much negative surrounding a team like there is the dolphins right now, would you encourage Coach McDaniel, hey, maybe smash a few watermelons in the locker room, get the boys going? Or is it a little early to bring out something like that. Oh, in honor of the Great Gallagher, he was
Starting point is 01:17:39 2 and 0 in my time in Dallas. Rest in peace, by the way. Great Gallagher. Yeah, rest of peace. Yeah, rest of peace. But, no, actually, that was during the pandemic times, too. So we're probably caged up a little bit, you know, too much, just thinking about it too much, probably.
Starting point is 01:17:55 But, no, I think, you know, you have to have fun. You've got to keep the energy up. I mean, that is so important, all part of the group dynamics in the challenges of every single year. Yeah, I think the most important part is you want these guys clear-minded. But, you know, Miami is going to have to go. It's a division game. You know, these division games are always tight.
Starting point is 01:18:14 We talked about this a little bit last week. September division games, I think, are a real, real challenge. So they're going to have to really do a good job taking care of the football. And as you know, you know, Buffalo just looks so good right now. So in Miami is going to have to shorten the game, you know, win the time of possession. the first two weeks that they've been on the wrong side of the time of possession. But division games are usually tight. You know, like I said, that's a lot of points to give up to a division opponent.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Why is the division game normally tight thing? Because don't rosters change every year? Like, why is it always? I mean, we're a part of them with the Colts. They were always tight. And it's always like, well, you know exactly what the person's going to do. You play them so much. But what if it's a new OC, new DC?
Starting point is 01:18:55 What if it's a new coach? Not that it is in this particular case. But why is it just, is it the vibe of the game just feels bigger so people are a little tighter? Like, is it the knowledge of the other team that just naturally comes from playing each other so much? I mean, personally, they're my favorite games of the year. I mean, they are the best games of the regular season. I mean, I know as a coaching staff, you always put time, you know, into the division games in those June weeks before you go on vacation. I just carry so much more weight.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You know, plus the fans, the tradition, the rivalries, all that play into it. So there's nothing like the division games. You know, I know there's so much made of the night games and so forth. But, you know, the division games, just the competitive spirit is always high. You know each other fairly well, even like you've stated with the change of rosters. I mean, there's definitely a familiarity to your division opponent. What's behind you there, coach? What do we got?
Starting point is 01:19:53 The photo. Oh, Roberto Clemente. That's it right there. That's right there. Yeah, I love that. When I get to a bridge, my favorite all-time professional athlete. Hell yeah. Is that your favorite bridge?
Starting point is 01:20:06 Is it my favorite bridge? Okay, that's good questions. I'd have to say the homestead high-level bridge. That's a good one. The closest one to the house. Yeah, yeah. Of course, Donary, obviously. There's a beer to share right at the end of it.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Pittsburgh, actually, most bridges of any city, Pittsburgh. In the world, right? Yeah. In the world. Bridges everywhere. I mean it's architectural engineering Marvel as you walk around town that one right there though leads to a lot of good times
Starting point is 01:20:34 and that one's named after a phenomenal human in the history of sports go ahead tone yeah coach we were talking about Daniel Jones earlier this week and how great he was against the blitz against the Broncos and we talked about it with Bruce Ariens a little bit and AQ Shipley and they were saying
Starting point is 01:20:50 like some of these teams they don't have sight adjustments anymore and they don't have hots like and I was asking you like overall is that what separates at good quarterback from a great quarterback is against a blitz, knowing your sights, knowing your hots, and is that why young quarterbacks sometimes tend to struggle coming into the NFL? Yeah, definitely. I think that's a great point. I think schematically, you know, when you do put together an offensive system, you know, we always talk about proactive adjustments, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:16 some teams don't believe in having sight adjusts or a hot system built in, you know, some more, you know, make the protection adjustments. So it kind of varies scheme to scheme. But definitely that's something that, you know, when you go back and you look at the training and training camp because, you know, the live work, the live teamwork, because the speed of the pressure is so important for developing the quarterback. You know, flipping to the other side of the ball, and I learned this from Dom Capers back in 2009 when he came to the Packers, you know, we were talking about the preseason, you know, how much pressure to run into preseason versus not showing your pressure and, you know, just playing coverage and in standard defense. point that he always made, which I still see that's true, and I, you know, obviously used it on the other side of the ball offensively, is a defensive player's got to learn to play to the speed and the time clock of pressure defense. So having pressure defense for a young quarterback and the training component is critical.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And I think that's probably along with I think Bruce's comments is a key to their development. Can you tell me a little bit about confidence and what that can do for a quarterback, especially when you come out like Danny Dimes, new home. Obviously, a lot of shit has been said about you. And then the first two weeks, you're playing, damn, your perfect football. Your choices, your options are all right. Your throws all on the money. Your decision-making on when to run, seemingly right.
Starting point is 01:22:41 You're taking huge shots. You're bouncing right back up. It's like, that's a great way to start a new relationship in life, but definitely with a new team, right? Confidence has to be a weapon for Danny Dimes and Shane Steichen at this point. No, absolutely. I mean, you get the big win over there in Denver, too. is awesome. No, confidence is really what it's all about. That's what moves the needle.
Starting point is 01:23:00 That's what moves the needle for the player. That's what moves needle for the offense, the defense, and ultimately moves the needle for the team. And then the fans and everything, you know, the external energy increases. But I'm really happy to see his success. You know, he's had some tough moments, but I always thought he was an excellent prospect, but in the pocket and out of the pocket. And it's great to see him have the success he's having in Indianapolis. Was it against you? We saw him just running striding out? Was that again?
Starting point is 01:23:28 It feels like it was on that primetime games, which is normally against them. I mean, I think the one year he had, what, three touchdowns over 50 yards? I mean, he can run. No, he can definitely run. But I just think he needed a little more time in the pocket in the earlier days because, you know, he definitely has that ability. Our source says close to Danny Dimes tell us that he's only 28 years old. The body feels like it's only getting faster.
Starting point is 01:23:53 so enough with the wow surprise you can still run stuff you know because this weekend against Denver defensive end or outside lineback I don't know who it was within a foot of him he switches gear gets around this guy like it looked like a Tyree kill kind of like getting out of a phone booth almost and it was right in front of us I'm like I didn't know Danny Dimes still had that and then I was told promptly 20 years what are we talking about he's still young and he got blasted before we've seen him get crushed and pop up too yeah he's he's he's really really hitting his climax here, and so are we. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:27 Just like those glory holes, we're always looking for those glory holes. Right down there in Dallas, I've learned. The glory hole is what we're all seeking, right? I heard Jerry Jones say that, coach. Are we jumping to the oil business now, Pat? I'll tell you what, after learning I could buy an $800,000 rig and potentially make $100,000 million dollars out of wine. I certainly thought about it.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I've certainly thought about it. I don't know how the modern age is with oil, and I don't know if we're trying to find it still. I think we should. Sounds like it's the right move. But if I could get one of those rigs to get down there and cough like any mammal would and then start to bleed and then start to hiss and start to howl out and I knew it. I said, we found it.
Starting point is 01:25:04 There's a glory hole down there. And this $800,000 rig just penetrated that thing beautifully. You never know what's on the other side. You never know. No, you don't. Because you might run into a, you know, something you don't want to run into down there. That's why I keep your eyes off it. But every once in a while, you find that glory hole.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And magic starts happening for everybody, right? That's what we're doing with Dallas Cowboys that we're trying to do? You're talking with the Cowboys or with the oil, the Gloryhole? Yeah, I mean... Go ahead. I don't know you're asking me.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I don't want to get in trouble. You know more... Whoa! We're talking about an oil glory hole. I'm going back to the production meetings. I'm sorry. Okay, Jay... Jeez.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Jerry J.J. What is this guy's problem? We're talking about Jerry Jones this week. Okay. On radio show. He exploits. he explains what a glory hole is please run this from 105 okay well i haven't seen this yeah 1053 the fan glory hole talk jerry uh his agent said really i'm getting him signed over there
Starting point is 01:26:05 because i want to know jerry's definition of glory hole and if it's the same as mine that came from jadevion's agent so could you just clarify that for him well he knows it's an oil field term comes from that when you're in the business of drilling wells. And it's when you've basically made a big well. And mentally or physically pitcher just drilling a well and all of a sudden having all the oil start coming out at once and going in the air. And that's when you've known you've hit a grill.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Jerry, coach, how many times have you been either forced or heard the glory hole reference or metaphor to your football team down there in Dallas. Bring a guy in, we struck glory hole with this guy. Is that used on a regular basis? Is the oil terminology used on a regular basis down there with the Cowboys with Jerry Jones? Definitely.
Starting point is 01:27:05 No, it's definitely a term. And it's part of his great storytelling and analogies, you know, both the oil business and in pro football. Yes, definitely. I've heard it a number of times. So you have had to utilize the words, glory and whole as motivation to a locker room in the NFL? Well, you know, a lot of things that are said in the locker room stay in the locker.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Oh, yeah, of course. Of course. That's good call. Yeah, hopefully. So, AJ can help me out here. But, yeah, so definitely, I think everybody that's worked there has heard the term glory hole. I never heard it before this one. No?
Starting point is 01:27:41 Oh, really? Yeah, I never heard it. But, you know, things aren't always staying in that locker room. As soon as your mallet hit that watermelon, we learned of it. So, you know, we need to keep this shit tight. We need to keep the sheep a little bit tighter out there. Now, can we talk about the rooms that you do have in the rooms you have to monitor as a coach? In the most important position, we got a lot of question marks going into this week.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Go ahead, Convan. Yeah, coach, a lot of backup QBs playing. We got Mack Jones for Purdy, Carson Wentz going for JJ McCarthy, Jake Browning going for Burrow, possibly Marriota for Jaden Daniels and Tyrod. Taylor going for Justin Fields. You were basically dominating with Cooper Cush when he was playing for you guys when Dak was hurt a few years ago. What is it like coaching and preparing for a team when you know you're going to be having your backup quarterback going in? Are you asking for some of your superstar players, maybe even your defense to step up, have a big week, or is it
Starting point is 01:28:39 kind of, hey, let's keep this thing rolling. This is a train. Let's just get the backup in there and, you know, continue to play? Yeah, definitely, I would say it's part of the rhythm of a season. I mean, the 17-game season is real. And, you know, 16-game seasons. I mean, to see quarterbacks, you know, go through a whole season. I mean, that's the most important statistic for any starter in the NFL, let alone the quarterback position, as we all know,
Starting point is 01:29:06 is the most important position. So, yeah, when you talk about the backup quarterback position, I mean, philosophically, I think it goes back to your roster development, You know, in the old day, sometimes you like to have a different athletic profile to your quarterback to maybe have a change up. I personally always try to prefer the skill sets to be as similar as they can because, you know, with the training regimens and being able to train, you know, all three quarterbacks, hopefully a fourth one in the room is so important. And I go back to the quarterback room. You have your starter, then you have your number two and your number three. They all have responsibilities, you know, during the offseason, during,
Starting point is 01:29:44 training camp, and ultimately in season. So quarterback rooms are critical. Who you have in that room, as far as coaching, the diligence that go into it, you're really preparing yourself for this situation, you know, back when the off-season program starts, in my opinion. So it's all about the quarterback room, and I think every one of these guys that, you know, they're going to have their opportunity come Sunday and they'll have the support, not only the quarterback room, but the whole.
Starting point is 01:30:14 whole football team. Some of the best leaders that I've come across have been backup quarterbacks before they've, you know, before they got their ultimate opportunity as a starter. Can you talk about that a little bit more? Whenever we had Andrew Luck, we had Matt Hasselbeck as the backup quarterback, and he acted like a buffer almost for Andrew as he was kind of finding his way in the entirety. Obviously, you had success with Andy Dalton as your backup quarterback for Dak. Cooper Cush obviously had a good run. Cooper Rush, sorry about that. Cooper Rush had a good run with you, but having that veteran, leader type person as a backup quarterback, outside looking in, some people can say, is there going to be a little conflict here on who's alpha in room?
Starting point is 01:30:54 What have you experienced with maybe two top dogs in the same quarterback room? I've been so blessed throughout my career to experience it so many different times. Back in 1993, my first year, you had Joe Montana as a starter, but Dave Craig was the backup. And Dave was incredible. I mean, you know, David played so much football, but it's successful right up there in Seattle and so forth. So they complimented each other, you know, so very well. So in Joe Miss Games, Dave stepped right in there.
Starting point is 01:31:23 You know, later in Kansas City, we had Rich Gannon backing up both Steve Bono and Elvis Gerbach. And, you know, those, you know, and then he went on to a phenomenal, you know, stretch over there with the Raiders. I had Matt Hoss back as a young guy as a backup to Brett in Green Bay. so many times Aaron Brooks is a young guy behind Jeff Blake. Jeff goes down, he steps up. Aaron goes down, here comes Jake Dallum.
Starting point is 01:31:48 So I've just been very blessed to have so many guys that were ready to go, bought into the system of always being ready, you know, the development of, you know, each quarterback through quarterback school, which was a different era back than you were able to spend more time with them. So I've experienced it on a number of different opportunities and the latest is obviously in Dallas with Cooper Rush. You actually did it for two times, both in 22.
Starting point is 01:32:11 and 24. Do you think you're the first guy that all those backup quarterbacks had ever heard speak with a yinzer accent? Good shot because, you know, it's something I had to be conscious of, you know, during the week because, you know, as a head coach, you kind of, you know, don't always want to have to be in charge of calling place, particularly in the headset. You'd like to be more, you know, mobile on the practice field, but I was told I had an accent and probably they needed to hear me. So But, yeah, there's a pretty good shot. Yeah, I love just the thought.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Aaron Rogers talked about a couple times about you calling plays in the headset with the Yenzer accent, just sounding. So I couldn't even imagine how spectacular that had. Myron Coat dropping a play call into Aaron Roder. Myron, rest of peace. Rest of peace, my own, peace. Yeah, no doubt, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah, you're always told me. You're old school today. Yeah. We're paying our respects, Roberto Clemente. Absolutely. Joe De Nardo. Joe Nardo, rest in peace. Toronto. Mr. Joe.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Cheese, good. He's the greatest Doppler operator of all time. He is. Yeah, rest of peace, Joe. Oh, wow. We appreciate you, Joe. Love you, Joe. That's strong right there.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Hey, Joe said it would. Shout out to Joe. Rest in peace, Joe. Taya has a question for you about a lot about what you just talked about, actually. Yeah, Coach, of all those situations, when you look at San Francisco, a lot of people have been saying, hey, especially the, way Mac Jones played on Sunday against New Orleans. If he continues to do that and he looks really good and we know that Kyle Shanahan initially when they traded up to number three a couple years ago,
Starting point is 01:33:51 it was because he wanted Mac Jones and then through discussions and whatever happens, they ended up going with Trey Lance. Is there ever a situation you can remember or do you think Shanahan might be going through this right now where you almost get enamored with the backup quarterback because he's playing so well and it makes it a little bit harder to go back to whoever your starter was? Well, I think the biggest thing is, I mean, it really focused on winning games right now. But going back to the draft process, you know, it's something that I learned from Ron Wolf back in 1999. And he always talked about always trusting your grade on a player,
Starting point is 01:34:29 you know, and the irony for Mack to come back around and then for Kyle and the 49ers to now get him as part of their team. I think you have to trust the draft process. Because when you look at the draft process, there's so much time and energy goes into where you, you know, put these, the grade you put on these young men at the time and then they have their experience, you know, that could be different from each opportunity, injuries and, you know, so many things can go a different direction. So I think this is clearly a case of, you know, trust in their process and now he's having success there. And then with that, I think it's a great situation to be in for the 49ers because now you have two, you know, two, you know, two. players that you feel really good about that can win and play at a high level. So hopefully Matt keeps going and keeps playing at that level. But I think this is a great spot to be in.
Starting point is 01:35:19 You said trust your draft grade. That's a Trey Lance trade that you guys bring back to Dallas. You guys really liked him. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that would be definitely an example of it. You know, when Trey, trade became available. And it was definitely the conversation was, you know, we talked about the grade that initially had on him and the value that we thought it would take to get him there.
Starting point is 01:35:38 So absolutely. I've seen it happen over and over and over again, where you just, you've got to least bring the player in. Please bring them in and, you know, take a look, you know, have the conversation. And it's, it really, you got to trust that draft process. So you think Shanahan after that game was like, we knew it, I knew it. I knew. After he goes against the Saints and goes, I knew, this is what I thought, whenever we initially did that. And on that point, Trey Lance goes to you guys, you liked your draft grade on him, you get him to the down. Cowboys, currently with the Chargers, right? How do you feel about Trey Lance whenever your time with him?
Starting point is 01:36:13 Oh, I think he's definitely on the up. You know, he's improving. I think he's getting to the point now that he'll be ready to be a starter in this league sometime. I was very high on Trey in my time there. I just thought he was very young, very, very raw, hard worker, you know, excellent athlete. I basically think he has so much more in front of him. I think he just got to really look at these players.
Starting point is 01:36:38 here in the last five or six years. I mean, this pandemic and the things leading into it, I mean, I had a young, you know, one of our youngest son, the senior year was the pandemic. So, I mean, I think that time clocks on development can be a little screwed as far as guys. You see it. We talked about a lot in the old line room, offensive line room, letting those guys have the next year to develop.
Starting point is 01:37:01 So I just think your patience is something that we all wish we had, you know, in the development outlook, and I think Trey is definitely someone that's turned the corner. I really enjoyed my time working with him. I forgot there was a world stoppage of events, being around each other and everything, and crucial development years, too, whenever everything kind of changes. I don't even think, until you mention it right there, yin's are genius, obviously, football. I don't think that has even crossed my mind about, like, football development for players because of COVID. Obviously, you think about life, people being locked in their houses and separate from everybody,
Starting point is 01:37:36 and people maybe getting more deep into the internet and believing things and seeing things and yada, yada, yada. That's life effects and then high schoolers not being around each other so them interaction and how they feel publicly, that's a whole thing, whatever. The developmental years obviously, I hadn't thought about football development
Starting point is 01:37:52 though much. That is certainly a thing. Oh, yeah. If you go through Colts, what Colts got going on with AR at quarterback, and then you think about Trey Lance, I assume this is that other position. You said offense align. That makes a lot of sense because that's a year of that you miss out on that you certainly need in the development
Starting point is 01:38:08 phase. Wow. Hey, that was pretty profound. I want to let you know that. That was pretty profound what you just said right there. No shit. Go ahead. What you expect. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, why for so long, why is it always
Starting point is 01:38:28 so difficult, I think, to evaluate college quarterbacks coming out of their college program and making that trans. to the NFL. I know so much relies on what's around a QB to make him successful, but it seems like since the dawn of football, it's really tough and there's a lot of different opinions on who's going to be the guy at the next level and who's not. What do you think that is? Like, is it ever going to get easier? It's, I think it's always going to be a challenge because of the access, because you
Starting point is 01:38:53 really, you know, the pro, the pro experience of getting access to really truly understand the guys is so important. I personally think it's a little it's better because you're seeing more quarterback-driven offenses as far as them running the ball that's now transferred to the NFL where you used to have to project
Starting point is 01:39:15 a quarterback that was, you know, in a primary run first, you know, throw it second offense and how would he do in third downs and things like that evaluate his drop-back passing game and so forth. But I think you see so much more of the, you know, the quarterbacks with the athletic ability being used in college that now is being used in the NFL. I think that part has gotten a little easier. But, you know, it's just like
Starting point is 01:39:42 anything. I just know for years in the video is so much better as light years compared. But, you know, in the old days, if you really didn't get to get right next to the quarterback and feel the ball come off his hand and be at the workout, you truly didn't know the velocity. Now you've got the instrumentation that there's so much data out there it's it's it's it's it's and now you're on the opposite side of the evaluation curve of having maybe too much to look through and really sort down and because at the end of the day you know these guys don't you know when you look at players that that make it versus ones that don't it's it's it's not I don't think it's their physical capabilities I think there's so much more data and information where these
Starting point is 01:40:23 scouting departments do an excellent job there it's it's really the emotional development and an emotional projection of how they're going to project to the professional sport life. How do you go about doing it? We've seen like rock paper scissors people do. There's a basketball shooting. They try to figure out the competition level. Try to find out if they love ball.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Like what is the goal of trying to figure out if they're going to become somebody that's an asset to your locker room or a turd, you know, for lack of better words? Is there anything you try to do in the process of scouting a player that makes you feel one way or another about what they could potentially be in a few years as humans? Yeah, I think, I mean, from the head coach perspective is different.
Starting point is 01:41:00 I mean, but I think it's, you know, your scouting department, I just go back to the last one. I've been very blessed to work at two organizations who, you know, they're different in their scouting approach, but I thought both organizations did an outstanding job of clearly understanding the player, you know. And, hey, and there's ones where you, you know, there's times where you may not have all the information that you would like to have,
Starting point is 01:41:22 but it really comes down to the scouts and the whole process, you know, the testing and just once again collecting the data and having an understanding of how it's presented and then, you know, setting that board right way. But I thought both the Cowboys and the Packers, you know, did an excellent job in that area. We appreciate
Starting point is 01:41:40 the hell out of you, coach, and I know you don't like to pick games. Obviously, you wouldn't want to do that or do that. But if you were over the last couple weeks with what you said, you'd be undefeated right now, picking games on the day. Congratulations. Congratulations. Two for two. Last week you picked the Packers. Felt like that was going to happen regardless. They showed up for you.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It was a big one. You didn't pick them, by the way. You said, I like green gold. So we put words in your mouth and had you pick the Packers. Tonight, I think I heard you say earlier, that's a lot of points. That's a lot of points for a Thursday night game. How do you see this game going for us that will be picking games here in a matter of moments? I think Buffalo is going to win the game.
Starting point is 01:42:19 That's a lot of points for a division game. Say no more. I'm going to go against my, you know, against the grain. go with the bills tonight. Oh, geez. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, no. A night for the blowing why you said. It's going on for a all right. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. You're the man.
Starting point is 01:42:38 All right, man. See you next week. Thanks, guys. Coach Mike McCors. Yeah, coach. He's the man. The best. All right, man. I'm not making actual pitch, right? No. He sounds like he likes 12 and a half, though, right?
Starting point is 01:42:52 What are you asking me here? Well, he just kind of walked with a little bit. He's going against the bill. He's taking a bill. He's taking a good night for the blue. When Jodinaro popped up. His face. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:43:04 He had some profound shit. We're on the opposite end of the evaluation scale or something like that, where we know too much, where at one point we didn't know enough. We had to go see him. And then what was the other COVID-COVID effect and development of football? Didn't even think about that. Didn't even cross my mind because we had football during COVID, but there were some places that didn't. And there were some places that didn't. and things like that that didn't maybe had two games or something like that because they couldn't
Starting point is 01:43:30 get through all the COVID stuff in a lot of it I mean California obviously had very heavy regulations during COVID a lot of football players come yeah from the state of California you know there's a lot of I didn't even that was pretty profound is a geek thank you yes yeah yeah I go sure I know yeah that is it is though it hadn't even really crossed my mind it is hard to be patient with these guys but also just understanding that their development kind of got fucked by the world actually like the whole I'm diving into that but
Starting point is 01:44:00 but everything legitimately like the state of the world has affected how these dudes can play ball I know the rest of the world too and that matters a lot more than just a game in a sport I'm understanding that but I'm talking about just in ball
Starting point is 01:44:13 I never really considered that the only one that's still on the same team is Trevor Lawrence like you look at that entire draft class Trevor Lawrence Zach Wilson Trey Lance Mac Jones Justin Fields Trevor Lawrence is the only one who's still there and you could argue he had some of the worst development
Starting point is 01:44:28 because of what he had to go through between the coaches he dealt with when it was urban and then Doug Peterson who had the whole play call and debacle and now it's Brian or Cohen, Brian Ryan Cohen already or whatever the hell his name is. Liam Cohen. I blinked on, I don't know why, but a lot of Cohen's. And then you look at Mack, he's bounced around.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Fields is the only one who's actually gotten like a true second opportunity to be a starter. and even then, you know, they're o' and two and he's not playing this week. So it's one of those things where that entire COVID era, I never even once thought of that, just I think probably because the guys after them ended up being well who were young.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah, that was a... Thank God I wasn't going through high school college during that stuff. Dude, especially with the Aussies. I had so much fun. It's a lot of... Ozzie punters and kickers. Oh, yeah. It would have been over for me, brother.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Yeah. It would have been, but also just life development. Well, like you said, like they still had... They still had football in a lot of places, but it, can you imagine, it is nothing like it was the year before. Like, it's football, but it's like, this isn't, this isn't what I'm used to at all. Not allowed to be in a locker room, not allowed to really train or practice against each other. Yeah. Can hear Big Ben at Aquashore.
Starting point is 01:45:40 You know, that's how different it was. They were hearing him, you know, slay, slant, slant, slant, and they could hear him on defense. Hey, don't, you guys are playing the Steelers next week? Yeah. Ben is just going to tell you exactly what everybody's doing. Just don't let him know that you can hear him because we're all kind of playing in. So you guys can't hear. What's that?
Starting point is 01:46:00 Act like you cannot hear whatever he's saying. Okay, please. As you slide to the proper leverage as the ball is snapped and you hopefully get interceptions and tips and over. Don't ruin this for all of us. Please, don't ruin this for all. We got them next week. Don't just act like you didn't hear him. He didn't care.
Starting point is 01:46:13 11-0. Yeah. Don't got to stop him. Want you to know about it, actually. And then he probably, if we know Ben, now that we know Ben, he was definitely working out a little bit. Oh, yeah. when I say slant, I mean go.
Starting point is 01:46:27 If I say hot route twice, go deep, bitch. You know what we're talking about it. Rothersburg is a dog, dude. His show is good. He was wearing a hockey helmet the other day. He was the man. He's really stretched his leg. Is it a tape job on a stick? Yeah, he's exploring the space, which we were grateful for. Him and Spanker doing it down there and Chef.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Keep going, boys, football. It's a good show. Great show. My TV when I do so YouTube TV probably like an app the TV I have I got to go through YouTube what? Then I got to go into the bottom
Starting point is 01:47:01 yeah to the left down to the bottom YouTube TV that sounds horrendous yeah I don't like it at all and I know YouTube TV doesn't like that that's what I gotta do either but it is what my TV offers and it is the only way I know how to get in there is somebody that's not great with this entire thing anytime I go to YouTube
Starting point is 01:47:17 you know it gives you suggestions It's Bluey Yep Okay Metallica and her Sandman
Starting point is 01:47:26 and Virginia Peck daughter loves it which is great Love that she loves that by the way She'll literally Alongside of it does the entire thing
Starting point is 01:47:34 Classic Metallica though they don't let the whole video play They cut it off Yeah Awesome Love the way that guy operates
Starting point is 01:47:40 Yeah shout out Lars He just lives He's like You're operating How I am operating Or you're not operating At all Mad respect
Starting point is 01:47:46 Lars You do what you got to do Lars Great performance of Virginia Tech, too. I wish I would have been there. I watched the first minute of it. With my daughter a lot. I feel like I got it. And then there's Rothesberger, their newest episode. Not even our show.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Not even our show on it. Not even somehow. But Rothesburg is on there every time. So it's a new Ben face that pops up on the screen whenever I'm trying to get in my bedroom. Saw him with that hawk. There is. There it is. That was what pops up. Big pop out of me, Ben. I just want to let you know, it's a big, big pop out of me. Spank's going, I'm not there, Dennis. I thought there's football.
Starting point is 01:48:19 hockey ball. Yeah, I enjoy I enjoy. He's trying to tape it with the clothes on. Yeah, he's from Ohio, you know, he grew up around hockey. You know, he understands what's going on. He gets it. Him and Sid, boys, you know. Him on the ice. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:48:33 He had 100 goals one season. Yeah, he took that, he took his stick from here. It's like combining Patty Maroon and Gretzky. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah, I think so, actually. Hockey better be happy. He chose football. Yeah, that's right. Bingo, you're welcome. All right, let's go through some news.
Starting point is 01:48:49 of the day before we make our picks and get the hell out of here. I don't want to talk about it. Oh, no. Oh, no. Everything's going right for Danny Dimes. Everything that's not right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong? Please. I thought you could break up something very bad. Yeah, no. I'm not even talking about the alien in Panama. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I'm not even talking about that. Okay, but certainly saw it last night. Whatever the hell is going on? Yeah. Rest and peace of that guy. Everything's also, we'd like to thank that guy for whatever he's documented right now, if it is real. Obviously, it is a profound discovery. But what I would also like to talk about is Danny Dimes, everything's going his way.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Him and Riley Leonard were outside the Indianapolis Colts practice facility. I don't know if you saw this, AJ, and they did the closest to the pin challenge on the 105-yard hole, which goes over some water. Danny Dimes knocks it off a rock. That's right next to the water. Close to the pin beats Riley Leonard. Everything is going, Danny Dimes as well. I will say Danny Dimes and Riley Leonard both have beautiful swing I mean it was this middle season there's no way they've been able to play in a long time and Riley Leonard puts one to like 15 feet or something like that 16 feet and then Danny Dimes goes off the rock to within 10 feet
Starting point is 01:50:05 As soon as I saw it I said Colts might win the bucket Super Bowl this year It's a beautiful thing I'm happy we put it out there and welcome to Indianapolis and welcome to the Colts Danny Dimes I think you're going to be here for a lump boom right there boom and to six feet. Everything's coming up, Dimes. That's what we're talking about. We need more of that happening. We need to maybe have Dany Dimes go down
Starting point is 01:50:27 to the gas station, grabs a scratch off. Yeah, bingo. Because he's going to hit. We need him to just randomly start selecting money numbers so that maybe if the power ball gets up to what it is. Danny Dimes are on what we like to call a life heater. And we are going to be the ones that are going to benefit from it here in Indianapolis. Let's enjoy it all, AJ.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Let's enjoy it all, I'm saying. I'm looking forward to, I mean, when I see that, and I think everything's going well, Like I say Danny Dimes goes out He leads you guys to a Super Bowl You guys win the Super Bowl He's going to be hosting SNL Like February, March next year
Starting point is 01:50:55 He's going to be all over the place The cover of GQ Muscle and Fitness, all of them So I think Danny Dimes understands He doesn't want that Now, we host Saturday Live maybe It'll be good
Starting point is 01:51:04 He'll be really good The only thing he wants to be on the cover of is the hard work times Okay That's right The Blue Collar Magazine Bigo he ain't doing anything but that He ain't doing no GQ
Starting point is 01:51:15 He ain't Joe Cool Burrow He's gonna have gloves on that are going to have holes where the calluses are, showcases calluses. He's going to have boots and big jeans on, maybe Carhart Jack. Yeah, that's what he's going to. He's going to maybe have some duck pain on because he just got done shooting some ducks out there.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Lumber Jack Weekly. Boom. Maybe, yeah, over his shore, have the axe out there. That's what they ain't dimes is out here. He ain't doing that other stuff. Yeah, GQ magazine, you had your opportunity at the New York kid. He ain't out there anymore. Think about Playboy, though.
Starting point is 01:51:46 What's that? think about Playboy I don't think so. You got to keep Danny Dimes away from the duck blinds. We went over this once with Carson Wentz. We don't need this guy to fucking fall in love with Mallard hunting and then he comes back and that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about football.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Sounds like a hick. I'll tell you what, I've seen some real pictures from duck hunters. Do they ever not beat the ducks? No. It feels like they always win. They kill 500 every single time. Now, I watched Riley Green on Jimmy Fallon, still a show. Crazy what's happening in the world right now.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I watched him on Jimmy Fallon, and Riley Green hit that duck call. He made that thing sing. Pretty good. It'd be hard not if you're in the sky as a duck to be like, oh, shit. What is that? Get me down there. And as soon as they get down there, all they hear is, oh, shit, shit, shit, shit.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And they don't win. No, ever. These guys have mastered, and women. There's a lot of women duck hunters out there. They have mastered the trail in. It's almost as if they know the exact speed that each duck is going to go. I don't think they ever miss. I don't think they do either.
Starting point is 01:52:57 No. Congrats to them. That got to be, hey. Those ducks, though. A lot of practice there. You think him and hot? Devil and Duck Hodges go out together, Riley Green, country world together? I do wonder if Duck Hodges can keep up with Riley Green.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Keep up. I know he's a world champion. That was back in the day. Riley might beat a big. You know, he might be the one. You don't think Lainee has taught him something with a voice? Yeah, all he's. doing is singing. Jimmy Fallon.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Jimmy Fallon took that thing backwards. Riley Green said you probably don't even know which end of blow it. And then immediately on cue, back end of that thing. It was good to TV. We're up. That thing's off to in two seconds, I will say. That was an important thing to bring up. We had to talk about it. Yes, it was. If we didn't get that on there, then it's not like, why did we even do a show today?
Starting point is 01:53:41 Bingo. Yeah, yeah. You got a book end the show. Yeah. Agreed. Love a good book, Ed. Don't you? That's why we always appreciate seeing your book shelf back there. Which one's the most recent book that you have read? That's a great question. That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:53:59 That one, the green one with the green pages properly. Oh yeah, and we've talked about this before. You don't have a cover to the book because you don't want to judge the book by said cover, so you actually ask the publishing companies to send them without any words on the cover. We need a blank cover around all of them, except for that one you wanted people to know what you hand wrote it on there you wanted people to know what book it was uh these books though did the kids are or the kids start to read these yet or any of the any family friends asking about maybe sharing one maybe leave a book take a book i don't share these books no you don't get i don't share these books no kid this is
Starting point is 01:54:32 too advanced for my kids maybe maybe when they're 35 what what was that thing that they did at that place next to i'm not a big book reader sorry actually never done it uh what was the about quills yeah they had like uh leave a book take a book bingo yeah very popular deal you go in there you drop off a book you see one you might like and I'm shit I'll take this one which book did you leave in there while taking a very good book? I put
Starting point is 01:54:54 Coach J.B.'s book in there because I just figured someone's got to read this or is it hate me now, love me later. Bingo Coach J.B. Exactly. Still doing it. Yeah. He read over the audio? Yeah, the audio version is unbelievable. I would listen to that. I don't know if that includes, does it
Starting point is 01:55:10 did you leave a little thing on top to plug in for the audio version like an MP3? I should have. I didn't, I left a stick on top for whoever was going to grab it next. Enjoy this with a stick. Yeah, you need to take down a stick there. All right, let's get to a break. We'll pick the game on the other side.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Sounded like Coach McCarthy went against what he always says. Oh, that was all points. Thursday night. Josh Young, man. Division game. I'm going to go guns on. Like the dolphins are going to get fucking throttle.
Starting point is 01:55:38 He didn't say that, but he did. Yeah, exactly. And his brain said that. Right. At one point, that was a thought. And what came out was Bill's look real good. All points,
Starting point is 01:55:49 Bumpies, that make you feel better or worse about this evening that people are going against their own rules normally. I'd rather everybody go against us at this point. Are you going against you? Not a chance. You say you wanted to fight. And guess what? You know who's going to score a touchdown tonight?
Starting point is 01:56:05 Alec Ingold plus 2,500. Okay, there's his touchdown bet. They've been hit on. He has some hope. We want some to fight. That's what you said. I just, I know, I know there's no moral victories, but you have to show up tonight. You could, if you lose by a touchdown, lose by three, the season's still alive with the next two games.
Starting point is 01:56:26 If you get killed tonight, it's Jover. Yeah, if they get killed tonight, kick them off the tour. Legitimately, and I'm not, I'm not shitting you. That's, you got to fight tonight. You got to show up. You talk shit. You say the culture change. You got to do something.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Please show up. You guys can't see this. But on his hat, it literally says low bottoms and high hopes. Wow. Right now, we're at low bottom, low hoops. We're just pulling for him to fight. Fight. I'll take a moral victory tonight.
Starting point is 01:56:56 How about that? I will. Week three, fight. That's where I'm at. I like that. I think I've been in your position maybe a couple times throughout my life and history of sports, either playing or watching. It's great that we're not you.
Starting point is 01:57:11 It is great to not be in your side. seat right now, but I want to let you know, low bottoms, high hopes, maybe tonight changes everything. Good. Maybe tonight brings the Miami Dolphins back to that team that scored 70 points against the Denver Broncos. Seventy. Wow. You remember that? I knew. That was recent. Oh, a long time ago. A lot of football has been played since that
Starting point is 01:57:31 has happened. Two years ago. A lot of hopes have been smothered since then. It might have been week three two years ago. But tonight, we fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. fight with all our fight fight fight fight fight fight fight
Starting point is 01:57:49 keep it close 12 and a half take moral victories tonight week three division game there's moral victories I watch that shit I watch that shit live week one all right
Starting point is 01:58:02 that's where we're I saw it live week one I watched every snap I saw Zach Wilson come in and throw balls into the fucking husk okay I just just show up please Thank you.
Starting point is 01:58:14 He's talking about the coconut husk, which is obviously the rubber that is used on our turf at Lucasola Stadium as opposed to tires. Coconut husk, better for the joints. What we have been told. Quick track. And with that being said,
Starting point is 01:58:24 Gumpy not only saw every snap, he heard every snap. He was the only Dolphins fan that was within, and he took it, he sat there. Dolphins tarp, Dolphins hat,
Starting point is 01:58:35 Dolphins flag, I think, over his head, just sitting there, just taking it from everybody. And he walked out of here. We fucking suck. Fuck this. And then fight against the Pat,
Starting point is 01:58:47 fight against the Patriots. It was a fight. And then tonight maybe more fight. And then week four, guess what? Maybe a little. We're winning Monday night against the Jets. Farrime time again for the Finns, boys.
Starting point is 01:59:03 We're done with it. And don't worry, it's not a double header. It's not? Flex it out. Get it out of there. Fuck. All right, be your friend, tell of friends, something nice. Gumpy, we love you, man.
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Starting point is 02:00:42 to the show, officially. See those, AJ? Oh, those shacks? Yeah, a little shack noses here, brother. I'll tell you what. It's getting me. Saw him on Amazon, had to pull the trigger. Yeah, don't look too.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Oh. They're gigantic. It's a nice reminder of what shoes used to be like. These things feel like I'm putting on like old school football cleats. That's what they feel like right now. Obviously, you're just supposed to wear on day to day and whenever you're about to go wreck a rim obviously but these things are gigantic
Starting point is 02:01:18 I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff around them my toes are at the very tip of this thing I do think they make me do they make me shoot better yeah it's fine I don't know if that's what they're meant for oh I think so okay I think that shout out hey shit shout out dude appreciate that That ball fall in there is good vibes and good signs as we head into week three of the NFL season. AJ, last week you won in the picks. Congratulations. You're back on the board. You know, first week you were horrendous this past week.
Starting point is 02:01:55 You got hot. Is that going to continue? We shall see tonight. Dolphins taking on the bills at ESPN bet. It's back to 11.5. It was 11.5 at ESPN bet to start the show. Some other books had him at 12.5. middle of the show ESPN bet moved it to 12 and a half everybody was kind of sitting at 12 and a half now we're back to 11 and a half at ESPN bet let's go to one half of the hammer done cowboys AP tone what does that mean everywhere is 11 and a half except for one book is at 12 and a half I assume it's just fluctuating money coming in on the bills so they jumped it up to 12 and a half for a second and then there was some money coming in on the dolphin so then went back down to 11 and a half five okay so kind of a mixed bag what's the percentage of bets here 72% are on the bills tonight which is not surprised
Starting point is 02:02:38 I thought it would probably be more, to be honest. Okay, Mike McCarthy also likes the bills both at 12 and a half and at 11-half. Remember, he made his pick at 12-and-half. He did. Okay, so let's hold him to that. Don't forget that. Yeah, let's not forget that with Coach Michael McCarthy. He'd want that type of standard anyways.
Starting point is 02:02:52 There was 11-and-a-halfs out there when he did make to pick. Yeah, so I guess with our own rules, we kind of have to go with the best option available. So he's at 11.5. Connor, anything you're thinking about for tonight's game? The only thing is in the desperation. Miami backs against the wall. That's it. I mean, Noed Elver, probably going to be big.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Didn't really hurt the bills last week with the Jets. But with A-Chain and Ollie Gordon, you would assume maybe they do run the ball a bit. I don't know. It's just one of those games just like the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles. It's not as dramatic of a situation because it's week two and not week or week three, excuse me, not week one. But they are desperate and these games are always close. Ty Schmidt, 2714 can happen. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:03:34 That's kind of what I was thinking, especially with hearing with Shep. said about their secondary being super banged up. Miami's, I mean, like, it's tough to envision that they won't win by at least two touchdowns. And I think even, you know, if you're a Dolphins fan, maybe that's not the end of the world. You're just trying to avoid, hey, we can't compete by five touchdowns tonight. But I think it's very likely that the bills win by at least two touchdowns. Gumpy, you're hearing what everybody's saying. 72% of the world is on the Buffalo Beals right now from the website that we're reading.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Gumpie, you've heard it all morning. Obviously, it's been a little emotional throughout times of both the pre-show and even Dornisho. You've got a little worked up there. How do you lean here as we final? And why should we pick the dolphins? Jalen Wright, also back tonight,
Starting point is 02:04:20 one of our running backs. If you get Jalen Wright, A.C. and Olly Gordon, you could control possession a little bit. That's what you have to do. This is the thing. No, we have, we run for a lot of yards, but we don't run the ball is the issue. Like McDaniel, you have to run the ball.
Starting point is 02:04:38 They're making gains. They just refuse to run the ball. You have three good running backs, pound the rock. Is that why you're wearing that jersey? Is it like a subtle reminder to McDaniel? Maybe if he saw you on TV today, like, oh, we got a pretty good running back at age can. He's actually my favorite player on the team, though. More than Tua and Tyreek?
Starting point is 02:04:57 This guy. I like this guy. Waldo's always kind of bang. The Waddle jersey's hanging in my locker as well. He's banged up, though. I didn't know if he was playing or not. I mean, this is, this is what it's all about. Yeah, he didn't do it on Sunday.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Yeah, the owner was doing it. Yeah, and then he scored, he didn't want. Maybe he stopped because the owner was doing it. Like, you know what, just jump the shark. Maybe jump the dolphin here. Yeah. AJ, 11 and a half is the spread. I know you have been seeing the board well here for the last few days.
Starting point is 02:05:24 The NFL is unpredictable. Division games are unpredictable. Thursday night games, unpredictable, or are they? You know, they're unpredictable until they're not. Correct. And we've got to remember, there's been 90% public bet that has covered in the past. And usually around this time is when the public does hit. There's been games that have seemed too obvious to be true,
Starting point is 02:05:44 and then they were as obvious as we thought they were going to be. But there's always that thought that the games that we also have seen is a team change. Who it is for one game, for four quarters, they piece it together, and they're able to beat anybody. Could tonight be the turning point of this Miami Dolphins team, this Miami Dolphins franchise, this entire program organization's trajectory. Does it change tonight? Do they beat the bills?
Starting point is 02:06:11 Do they keep it close? Or do the bills win by at least 11.5? AJ Hawk, you will go first. A lot of times in these situations, when I take like the obvious pick with all these, with so many points in the NFL, I think it's tough to cover when you have 11.5 a spread like this. We don't see this a whole lot. But I think the dolphins know they have a great opportunity.
Starting point is 02:06:30 I don't think they find a way to capitalize on it. I think the bills win by 14 plus. Okay, AJ's got the bills. What are you worried about? Just hold on. He's thinking. It's a big friend, and you're seeing the board. You took the process.
Starting point is 02:06:51 Yeah, you took the bills that does change. You're seeing the board right now. So everything Connor just said and the tone. I take into account if other people are seeing it, you know? You know, one week right there. What I was doing is that. one week of seeing it, or is he actually understanding what's going on right now?
Starting point is 02:07:05 Who were you talking to? Right there in my head? Me? I didn't know if there was some sort of shaman or... Well, I would hope it is actually a much smarter version of me. Every time I do that, have the self-talk, I'm always hoping to fucking God. It's a better
Starting point is 02:07:20 me that's answered. I pictured you like Ace when he was in the den and then he hovered above himself. Ventura, Ace Ventura, that is. Oh, yeah, I remember what he's talking about. Whatever he is down in the jungle. Yeah. Yeah, I understand what you're sure.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Probably too. Your balls are shut. Yeah. Go ahead. I mean, I was going to say it's basically it. This is the last time all year you can bet on the, you can pay the dolphins. Yeah, you really would like it. And that might be because you're a Patriots.
Starting point is 02:07:45 No, no. I just think that the Colts are really good. And I think that there's a chance here that the Patriots end up being a pretty solid team and the dolphins aren't that bad. And you're saying I watched every stamp of the dolphins last week. And also I saw them week one. they look like a much better team against the Patriots than maybe they looked against Indianapolis Colts
Starting point is 02:08:05 is what you're saying? Yes, and I genuinely think the Colts are like one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now. So, like, can we really hurt them that much? Like, it's the same with the Packers. But you know, who else is one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now? The Buffalo Beals.
Starting point is 02:08:19 Give me 2714, at least Buffalo Bills winning that game. I mean, it might be, I like the Buffalo Bills. I'm just put, really in the end, I didn't watch that whole New England Miami game. You see, that's the problem here. I haven't seen, because I think they had good moments, great moments in there, right? They had really good moments, but again, the other thing with the Miami Dolphins game is just that the Patriots, you know, their defense isn't all out there.
Starting point is 02:08:46 You know, it's hard to even judge that. Our defense also can't get a stop. Okay, give me the bills. Thank you. That was awesome. Appreciate that, Gumpy. I know you're pulling for the dolphins tonight. I know Connor is pulling for them to keep it close.
Starting point is 02:08:59 I assume there's going to be a lot of money potentially on it. Let's go, AJ. Let's win this thing. Let's do this. Let's get a perfect board this week. Why not? I think we can. I told you,
Starting point is 02:09:11 I'm very biased from the 10 minutes of a hard-knocks episode I watched of the Buffalo Beals, like August 17th airing. And I saw the camaraderie of that team, and that has stuck into my brain when I see how much of these guys enjoy being around each other. Shane Steichen just said that yesterday about the Colts team. He's like, hey, they hang out, they go to dinners multiple dinners a week
Starting point is 02:09:30 they hang out it's just the vibes are vastly different it's like that means something I think we look at that a lot more than other people do anytime there's a mic'd up I'm trying to see how they're interact that's all I'm trying to see is the interaction how's the interaction when we're watching a sideline we're just trying to see the interaction hard knocks stories are cool guy does rocks
Starting point is 02:09:47 and shit okay sick how do they how do they interact that's all I want to see legit all the teams that I've been around I've been on that are good or great the boys like each other whenever it's clearly that they aren't all on the same
Starting point is 02:10:03 teams aren't good it's just an X factor that seems to show up with great teams and doesn't get talked about it much I agree with what you're saying about that Buffalo Bill's Hard Knocks I do the Vision game though
Starting point is 02:10:14 Thursday night that's a short week I mean the bills though it's big for the bills the bills are rolling and everyone had like they have everyone's respect and everything they know they don't want any let down
Starting point is 02:10:24 if they go drop a game to dolphins that changes their season too pretty quickly even though they'll be fine either way but they don't want this to happen. I mean you're it's a you start thinking about how the game goes and what happens like if the Beals with all that energy at home come out
Starting point is 02:10:39 and get an early big lead then we're talking scorched earth yeah and also potentially Miami yes yeah you know turning down a little bit maybe at that moment maybe some disagreements maybe some miscommunication happens but if Miami's able to battle there gets the ball first
Starting point is 02:10:57 Yeah, if they're able to keep that thing, then don't fight. They've got to get a deep ball to Tyreek early. Like, Miami needs something like that to happen early. Let's get Tyreek involved. Let's get some excitement early and get on the board. That's the Miami's chance. Yeah, so let's watch that first quarter. What's the, I mean, that's a bigger question mark, I think, than the overall game.
Starting point is 02:11:13 Because how the first quarter goes, I think is how we're going to find out what the game is. If Buffalo's dominant, that's going to be. Even that first drive, because if the Bill's, you know, Buffalo faithful, Bill's Mafia gets going after like a three and out from Miami. and then the bills go score and then they play Mr. Brightside or some shit. It's going to be real hard, you know, end in the first quarter, 14.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Both teams want the ball here, right? I think they start. Probably. I think both offenses are better. I can see Buffalo being like, fuck it, no, kick it. Let our fans eat here for a second. Bills are minus three and a half first quarter. If that, if it's a fancy issue.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Do we have the percentages on who's on what there? No. What's the over under or the first quarter? The over under the first quarter total, nine and a half. I like over there. I like over for that and the whole game. 7-3.
Starting point is 02:12:00 Well, you're going over? Yeah, I want to feel alive today. Oh. I love it, Tony. You like that, Tony. 15 and a half is a lot of points. That's a lot of points. Bill's rush defense stinks.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Dolphins stink. Okay. Points, points, points. Once again, I would love to see Willie Gay get some burn. The guy's a ball of energy. He's so good. He's played two fucking snaps all year. He's so good at football.
Starting point is 02:12:24 He just doesn't play. Why isn't he playing, girls? I have no idea. I put out a clip. It has like 500,000 views. No one knows why this guy doesn't play. He had two snaps. He had a tackle and another tackle for a five-yard loss
Starting point is 02:12:37 where he hyped up everybody. Took him off the field. New England made a third and 17 screen. All right. We're excited for the night. We're excited for Gumpy. He said, Willie Gay, one of the best players of all training camp, they're saying.
Starting point is 02:12:49 God, I can't. Does he? Let's see him on a field day. They were saving them for Thursday night, Buffalo. Must be. Martin. I must be what it was. Tonight could be the night for the Miami Dolphins and their fans. And for that reason, and that reason alone, we're pulling for him.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Yeah. But on the flip side, this could be the year for the Buffalo Beals. And tonight could be a big one on national. From time, only people want to say, hey, this is who we is, if you were wondering about the Buffalo Beals. I'm excited for tonight. All right, we're going to toss to a conversation we had a chance to have with Stanford Steve and about college ball, especially this weekend. I think you're going to enjoy it. It's a segment that we're calling a notter college football convo with Stanford, Steve.
Starting point is 02:13:31 We think you'll enjoy it. And also, we think it'll give a good breakdown on the storylines that you need to know going into college ball. And on that note, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me, team on three. Let's enjoy tonight. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Okay? Let's enjoy this light. Hell yeah. Let's enjoy ball. 50 and a lot of points. I hope the overhits for all of us. Team on three. One, two, three.
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