The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1415 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Cam Bynum, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up everything from week 3 of the NFL season and go through the best offensive lines of the week as they go In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, and highlight the best and worst defensive back play with Darius Butler. Also joining the show are several great guests including 3X DPOY, one of the greatest defensive players of all-time, future HOFer, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt; 3x National Champion and current Head Coach of Ole Miss, Lane Kiffin; and lastly, new Colts safety, Cam Bynum. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Aboat, the Thunderdome, on this walk Wednesday. September 24, 2025, this sports program begins right now. Football! It is incredible, and obviously yesterday we had coach B.A. have the hit after the football there, and that was certainly impeccable timing by a man who coached football for 47 years. And it feels like for this particular program, we're incredibly lucky that day after day throughout the football. we get a chance to learn ball we get a chance to chitch out with the people who are you know the creators of the game that basically we have today and today is no

different ladies and gentlemen uh j j wott will be joining us wow what an honor he's fresh out of dressing like he was from the 70s while he was calling a football game this weekend his brother played in and he's being non-biased in but also if you were to watch that game without t j wiles look how zay he's so silly he's so silly eye and you fool and you only see the glasses and the hair in the top there you should see his pants. They are painted on. Yeah, they were painted on because he's still getting under that bore. He actually rips his pants almost immediately upon sitting down in that 70s suit. Yeah, right in the front too, not in the back. You know, every once in a while you blow the ass out.

This time had to get a football covered up because, you know, he blew out the front there, but that's going to happen. JJ says, show, oh, I got quads in ass. Okay, if I have to, I have to be able to beat up everybody in this room, you know. A little bit of a rip there starting, you know, they're real zoom in by people that were watching on TV. Obviously, you're resumed. on the wrong parts there. Who knows what you're looking for. That's why I try to fix myself this weekend in the entirety. We'll talk to JJ Wat, cannot wait. Another list of Hall of Fame nominees has come out. And obviously JJ not there yet timing-wise, but congrats to all the boys that got the Hall of Fame knowledge. Adam Venetary back on there.

Let's go ahead and get his ass in. Shane Leckler back on there. Let's go ahead and get his ass in. Amongst many others, there's going to be a lot of conversations and debates, but every time you get a chance to speak to a Hall of Famer, you should respect and appreciate it. also letting them know. You can talk a little shit as well. Tight ends Vernon Davis up there. Okay. Okay.

Vernon Davis obviously turned into an actor whenever he retired. We appreciate him and we remember him as a Maryland monster. Do you remember Maryland? Oh, yeah. He goes to San Francisco and just changes the game completely. G. Reg, obviously. Greg Olson getting in there, obviously an absolute dog. Jason Whitten, people forgot how good of a football he was because of what he did on Monday

Night Football. Yeah. People forgot. to go play again. He did. Hard not to forget. Thank God he did. He was a great football player. Everybody loved him as a teammate. Everybody literally was a massive fan of his. Congrats to him being up there. Who do you

see, D. Budd? Anybody? You know, I go straight to the D.B. So I love Eric Barry. He was a dog. Cam Chancellor. Legion of Boom. Earl Thomas as well. Pat Sartan Senior, Dolphins Legend. Then Asante Samuel, those guys stand out to me from that DB list. 12-year NFL

veteran, Super Bowl champion player coach of Tampa Bay Buccaneers. also played for the Arizona Cardinals, the Indianapolis Colts, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Baltimore Ravens. And before that, Penn State, big one this week. AQ. Shipley's here. AQ, anybody you see up there that makes you be pumped up out of a Pouncy Brother getting up there nominated for the Hall of Fame.

And Marquise, good for him. Yeah, Marquise Pouncey's up there. I see Olin Croutes, one of my favorite centers from the Chicago Bears is up there. Willie Anderson, the big tackle out of Cincinnati, needs to get in there. Overdue. How about Marshall Yonda? needs to get in there. My guy Larry Fitzgerald. I love that. Eli Manning's up

for it. I assume he's going to get in. He's Eli Manning. Would not be the first, right? It would not be a first ballot. Is that how the whole conversation will go? Philip Rivers up there. Okay, we like that. Everybody debates about Philip Rivers every single time this happens. I do wonder if Phil Rivers likes being nominated or not. Like, I'm sure there's some guys

that when they get nominated every single year, it's like, no. Yeah. This guy sucks. Phil's everyone in Super Bowl. I'm not saying Phil Rivers, but let's just say anybody that could potentially be, might actually be cutting grass. Yeah. Might just actually be cutting grass. Sit down,

enjoy your life, open your phone, 55 text messages from friends and family saying, congratulations. Then also fall up, have you seen this? And you go on to X accidentally. And then you just start reading things about your career. Yeah. He didn't have anywhere near as many tackles as bump, bum, bum, bum,

this guy could never show up in the big game. Highlights, low lights, start getting run about you. single year, every single time. Because that's just naturally, I think, how sports kind of happen, especially if somebody's going to go in from this team or somebody from this team is being represented. There's only a certain amount of spots every single year.

So there's a lot of shit talking that goes on to a lot of these nominees every single year. People get nominated a long time. I will hang it up now. I guess. Sorry, I'll be back. Three-time Hall of Fame nominee. That'll be a run. Thank you. Should have been four. I think three was enough.

Should have been. Two was a little bit too many, maybe. And one time was certainly a thank you that's very kind of you uh with that being said there was immediately i had to come out and say i do not deserve to be in the hall of fame i would like everybody to know that Shane lackler should certainly get in in my eyes and then there's a couple other guys too that would probably if we're going just strictly from a punner's perspective and and how it goes like Shane is my goat so like if Shane's not in there i don't think there is a real conversation about it but i did that also because i don't want people to think i actually should have been in there

because then you got a non-slaught of people going fuck this yeah okay eight years as a And then you even got OGs probably in the game coming out being like, we need to start having different tiers of this hall. We need different halls. You know, we need the average. This guy, eight years of punters getting in here. Like, that's what OG players would start saying. So it's like to get in here, to get nominated, huge honor.

To get into the Hall of Fame, obviously you're remembered forever. And it's certainly dope. We were there. Last Hall of Fame game, got a tour the entire place, got to look the entire place. It was beautiful. You're part of football history forever. But there's also, I think there's some shit that comes along. side this getting nominated every single year also expectations and hopes oh yeah and boom it not happening

so like i'm pulling for everybody to get in now the guys underline any guaranteed first ballot guys you see if that's the top road drew breeze i anticipate first ballot with the records that he's has super bowl champ i mean frank boy should a j hawk okay okay j hawk is not a first first ballot guy because he's been retired more than five years a j hawk in the linebackers is up for the hall of fame we would like to let AJ Hawk know Hell yeah, buddy About time, Hoggle He was in Erlacker's division

Yeah Okay, at the same time Tough, same position I mean that is a tough thing So this is one of those things Once again, AJ's gonna say nope All the guys that want it Obviously a huge honor

If I get in, great, I'd be honored If I don't, this obviously is not gonna fit That's how AJ's gonna undersell this Sure, AJ's gonna understand this. AJ's family, AJ's coaches, AJ's friends AJ's community that has supported him for a long time that have to battle against

well how many did he what did he what it's like I don't want to make excuses but in the same fucking division there wasn't social media where you only learn basically about things to what people wanted you to know about there was a goat playing literally an hour and a half

left of him in the same division at the same exact time well I don't want to hear that he should be it's like well he's all time leading tackler for the Green Bay fucking Packers is that pretty good or not led the team to not only a highest defense ranking in the history of the Packers or whatever, but also a Super Bowl.

And then you go to Ohio State, this fucking guy, everything. It's like, A.J. Hawk, great football player. We forget about how great of a football player he is and how big of a monster he is and what he was on the field because we talk so much shit to him on such a regular basis. We've kind of become desensitized. But he's a guy that's tried to run through your head a couple times, right? A.J. was a special player, man. And he literally did not care for anything, like didn't want any of this.

Now, granted, he'd click-clack if the underarm of people came. Without a match-out. He would certainly do that. And he would try a little kung fu maybe if that would help his game out there. But he was very, like, low-key for being a top-five pick in the NFL, and his head was the size of an actual mountain, and he wasn't scared to run through people, which is old-school football. I feel like that's why he was the president of Ohio for one time.

Well, you see his head and you think he's only a thumber. He was so fast, too. Like, when he played in that three-four scheme in Green Bay, and he was the backside linebacker, I mean, he made more plays on run-throughs, through the backside. I mean, he was so fast, so elite. And then when he'd come downhill and take on a fullback, I mean, obviously he had a great practice going against John Coon every day in practice. Every day in practice.

What did they say? They said they never let up one time for like seven years or something. Yeah, it could because then, you know, neither one of them were getting better. You know, so no brother-in-law, even though it sounds like they would talk to each other about it and kind of be like, hey, we really don't need to be doing this every day. But they did. And John Coon, yeah, he evaporated like four or five of, AJ's teeth throughout the

course of them playing together. And that's what AJ would do. He'd just line right back up and do it again. I would like to say to AJ, congratulations, man. And he's going to undersell it for sure. But we're pumped for him, and we did that entire thing just to get to that. Talks the tables here at Boss Conner and at Tyne Schmidt. Nine-year NFL

vet, Darius J. Butler's here. DeBuch, I know you're sitting over there today so we don't get to see the pants. Just know that DeButt's hat, hoodie, pants, and shoes all match perfectly. Just know that he is full outfit today. Look incredibly cool.

Debo, we have a great weekend of football. We do. Not just only on Sunday, and obviously Thursday kicking everything off, and we can't wait for Monday night every single Monday night. It's always incredible. And I'm sure there's some high school football and maybe good college playing on Friday night as well. This Saturday slate, Dee Bud.

This is what we're talking about. This is, hey, now we're playing the game. To chat a little bit more about this, let's head over to Hammer. Don, Don! With one half of the Hammer, Don! Cowboys, AP. Tone. Massive weekend for college ball tone. Yeah, an absolutely huge weekend. This is one of those weekends where if one of your friends scheduled a wedding on this Saturday, that's just a real damn shame because this is one that your ass is going to be on the couch all day watching

great games. There's four ranked on ranked games starting with the Oregon at Penn State, which is the game day game, which will be the whiteout, which will be at night. It'll be an incredible environment. Oregon at Penn State. Right below that, Alabama at Georgia, just an all-time classic every single time they play. Look for points in that one. USC's going to Illinois to see if they're real or not as a ranked on rank. Ole Miss and LSU is a ranked on ranked. We get to find out a lot about those two teams. And then there's a lot of games where there's a ranked opponent or a ranked team going to a tough away opponent. You're looking at Ohio State going to Washington, Indiana going to Iowa. You also have Notre Dame who has to go to Arkansas.

TCU has to go to Arizona State Tennessee has to go to an undefeated Mississippi State. Those are all ranked teams having to go play in tough places so we can see if we get some upsets there and then Auburn and A&M to just kind of a ranked team hosting a tough Auburn team.

It is a packed slate. Those are 10 games that I went through that are absolutely must watch all day Saturday is going to be incredible. Okay, thank you college football for doing that. We're going to be up in Happy Valley for a whiteout town. So sick. It's going to be a whiteout up there. Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

We are Penn State. Okay, let's talk about you being Penn State. How do you feel a team this year? There's some stats coming out, okay? Not great. Good ones? Don't want to see the stats. Good ones for who.

Depends on who you're looking at the stats from. Could you explain a little bit on which side would you say good stats for? Well, obviously, it always starts with the quarterback. I want to see the quarterback stats. For Oregon or for Penn State? Penn State. They're not good. Oh, no.

What? Yeah, there's a couple of really bad steps. Start with his size, though. Real good stats. Okay, he's very tall. Very tall. He's from Ohio. Yeah, tall. Okay, so he's tough. We know he's tough. We watched him. Be tough. He was in some big moments, had some massive, massive, like, he's calloused, I think, from prime time. I think he's able to figure that out. Obviously, he's seen what it's like. Obviously, the way the season ended wasn't the most perfect fairy tale type thing for him.

But they haven't really played anybody, okay, which is, I guess, a part of the entire story here. Okay. That should be good. And, uh, yeah. Um, should be. Great stats. QBR ranks. Okay.

Okay. This is QBR ranks. So I don't know who's doing a QBOR. Probably PFF. No. No. ESPN. Okay. So these are good stats. I don't know if it's, well, we don't know about that either.

Now, Hembo stats are good stats. Yes. Hembo, what Hembo sends us good stats. We are very appreciative of Hembo. Yes. Around here as a hole in this entire thing. thing. Penn State people aren't going to want to hear these particular stats, but there is a narrative that Penn State hasn't been showing everything that they got because they haven't

played anybody. Ain't that right tone? Isn't that what they were saying? Maybe they were holding things back because this was the obvious game that they were having to prepare for. The first three games versus Villanoi, some nobodies, right? Yeah, the easiest schedule in all of college football. Yeah, they were just running, you know, vanilla stuff on offense and defense. They didn't want to put anything on tape that Oregon might see and be able to prepare for. Okay, so that is what people are saying. That's how the team looks. looks. Okay. That's what people are coming up with now. No, they're not playing their

best football because of how 136 out of 136th is the difficulty of their schedule, okay? So it's the easiest thus far. Here's a couple of QBR ranks for Drew Aller. Overall, he's 106th. 136 we're going for. Third downs, he's 133rd.

Oh, no. Red zone, 131. Now, I have not watched every snap, but what the hell is that stat? What is that all? Because I like Drew Aller. I actually came into the season when Drew Aller was about to be the guy. What have we from the first three games against nobody. I guess he had a pick. He doesn't have his four touchdowns, one pick, I guess, in these first three games.

Is the offense just running the ball? Are we just not letting him play? Like, what is going on? No, it doesn't look good. But listen, they were 13-0-0 up at the half against Villanova. But here's the deal. This is what James Franklin said. This is what James Franklin said.

Villanova's a good ball club. They got McWay. They went to the one double-A playoffs last year. Are they playing their basketball team? No, but what's old buddy they used to coach him? He looks really good. Jay, right. Yeah, maybe he's talking.

of football boys McQuaid and him maybe he's motivated but you know what James Franklin said hey we're building depth right now that's what we're doing right now we're playing the young guys we're getting the young guys in we're mixing combinations oh drew out we're building depth for down the road and that's exactly what he's been doing he's got this all figured out listen whenever I was in school we played coastal Carolina we won 70 to nothing and put up 400 yards rushing but nowadays nowadays nowadays we're building depth you don't have to red shirt guys right away you can get some reps for some of the true freshmen so that's what they're doing. But also you got to give some reps to the people that you promise

reps to whenever you're paying the money, which obviously is a part of the entire contract situation that we currently have. So maybe it is that they haven't shown their best stuff, Dibut. Maybe that's the way we need. That's bullshit. We know how this goes. Look, they got luck. They start off with a preseason. You don't get a preseason in college. It sounds like three preseason games with me. So almost like the NFL, we got a guy who looks like when he gets off the bus should and could be the number one pick in the NFL. So you would expect, like Connor said, oh, maybe he's just playing a half and getting poured out of halftime. And that's when you get, you know, the young guys in and they get their reps.

But 13-0 halftime against Villanova. Villanova's, you saw him, McQaeda. Four touchdowns, one pick, like, what are we doing? Well, we're going to figure it out. Got a tough Oregon team coming in. I don't know what Dan Lanning's telling that team. I could have, they just got done winning a platypus. They did.

Okay? They just won the platypus after beating Oregon State. That's half beaver, half duck. Yep. Half beaver. That's platypus. Beautiful. They just got to hang that son bitch.

back in the Oregon facility for yet another year. They're happy about that. Jerking out of the platypus all weekend. They're rolling off the back of the fucking plat. That's what they're doing. That's what they do up there. They have a good time. But they're ready for Penn State. I mean, this team has looked good.

And the quarterback can spin it. More can spin it. And they haven't really had to do much either. I mean, Oregon State, obviously, a game, but they have really steamrolled some people. Nobody has done as good as Indiana has done. True. Now that is just a matter of fact, and they got Iowa this weekend. Good luck, Ty. We recorded another college football convo with Stanford Steve this morning. And I'll tell you what, I enjoyed it immensely. And college football is cooking, especially heading into a weekend where that team is going to get a chance to prove yet again that they're for real, even though nobody outside of the state maybe believes in them. Kurt Signetti has reloaded an entire new team basically at some spots at Indiana, quarterback being one of them. Last year, have an incredible run. Oh, we'll do it again. We bring in Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback from Cal last year, if you all recall us going to Berkeley,

when Daniel made that kick in those vans and a magical morning was had while Marshawn Lynch showed up and maybe brought some great vitamins alongside of him as well. Fernando Mendoza comes over to Bloomington, Indiana this offseason. Kurt Signetti's able to find some money somehow. Because remember basketball team, always got a new coach. And SIG said, I'm starting to feel a little bit because trying to go to basketball again, but we'll make do. They got the high favorite now, which leads to John Mateer injured.

out for some time, thumb injury. John Mateer of Oklahoma, the story of college football in my eyes. Song of Politelli's going to have to get back on that horse. Yeah, exactly. That was a tough night. That was a tough game for those cowboys out there. Song of Pilatelle is going to have a lot. He's going to go.

Yeah, it'll certainly go. John Mateer, though, I was thinking that they were the best team in the country because of him. And because of Arbuckle, the offense coordinator, he and Arbuckle obviously transfer in from Washington State. and I say transfer, that was an offense coordinator hired and then quarterback hired as well to come together. This has happened on plenty of occasions. It's been very successful a lot of the times. And it was in Oklahoma. Vettable's defense was great. He was great. And he's out now. They have a few weeks, I guess, before they got to really play Texas, I think. So maybe they'll be

able to recover. But this changes the entire fabric of college football, I think, tone. and obviously, Godspeed to Mateer as he recovers from the surgery. Yeah, it's huge because he was the Heisman favorite. He was playing incredible. Obviously, the Oklahoma defense. I said nine sacks the other day. It was actually 10 sacks. They're playing unbelievable.

So hopefully, you know, with that defense, with Hawkins Jr., who got some playing time last year after Jackson Arnold got bench, he's got a little bit of experience and in that new offense should be good. But it is, you never want to say it's a good time to get hurt, but they do have a buy. They have Ken State. And then it's Texas. So I know there was some reports yesterday that they're hoping they'll be back for Texas.

If he's not the game after that, hopefully they said hopefully by the end of October, he will be back. But it's huge because, like, it kind of kills all the momentum. This offense and this team has had. And they would only get more momentum, you know, against, you know, and you don't want to buy. We need to get better. And then playing against Ken State, which is always a fun game for the stars in that one before the Red River. Yeah, you want to have good of golden flashes going through it. But they'll be back.

Julian Eddman, congrats on the Patriot Hall. Happy for him. And bum for John Mateer and for college football, but obviously, Godspeed on the recovery. College football has been delivering. The NFL also showing up in a big way. The ratings were out for college football, big numbers. Six and a half, seven million on games, the biggest games.

The NFL is still pulling 20. 4X that. Crush. Yeah, 21, 22 plus. So for college football, we are still just at the very beginning of this entire thing for where we can head. same great game even better environments college football is what people should be telling NFL fans hey

we got it and if you don't have a college team it's okay pick one up and when you pick one up go experience it and when you go experience it'll be like this is the place for me it's literally football heaven at all these places they love ball they celebrate ball it's tradition to love ball and the new ap top 25 has pen state sitting at three Miami hurricanes at two and the Ohio state buck guys who have to travel out to Washington at number one. LSU, obviously, at four is a big deal. Georgia, Kirby and the boys, finally get a little bit of respect. Top five, Oregon. Oklahoma at seven, John Mateer out. How does that trend? And then at eight, Florida State. And there's a game against Miami, right around the corner. Elko's Texas A&M team. We like them. We have liked them.

Tone. Another year with Elko, we assumed they were going to be successful, right? Yeah, they could run the ball. They have a great old line. Obviously, the second year for Marcel Reed in that offense, and then second year for Elko as a whole, you know, his defense is going to get better every single year. We do like A&M. Texas, Indiana, Texas Tech. Hey, Matt Respect, my respect. Look out. I appreciated the Texas Tech people coming after us. I did. I like that. Because Texas Tech's been waiting a long time. You say, hey, show us our respect. Yeah, we're back. And they are, by the way. They really are. Ole Miss, obviously electrifying. We'll be talking to Lane Kiffin today at about 205

on the many lives of Lane Kiffin, an E-60 documentary that will be debuting. this evening. We saw the teaser. It's like a minute 49 teaser we watch or a minute 39 teaser. This is going to be electric. Yeah. This is going to be good for ball, I think, watching this entire thing about how Lane Kiffin basically has told the stories of his life. Right there, he was actually saying, man, I'd like to hear what actually happened there from his side. And McGee goes, no shit, that's what we're doing. And that is what they do. All the stories, all the way from Tennessee to USC, obviously the Raiders. Now it'll miss through the times with Alabama. Like he kind of goes through it all. I think it's going to be a good football history

lesson for all of us. And also maybe we'll learn about this guy that you certainly have heard of, no matter where you are in the United States of America, and what your thoughts might be on. He's been in a limelight a long time. His dad, obviously, legendary coach, Monty. He was labeled a guru, a genius at a very young age, got a lot of opportunities. Those things all exploded. How did he learn through them all while remaining a good coach and still staying focused on task at hand? The many lives, Langevin. That's what we'll talk to him about. That old Miss team is very good, though. I think I saw another stat, what was it, like 20% or 12% of their plays are explosive. Hembo sent a bunch of stats over. I mean, Hembo sent over a bunch of these

stats here. Something about Ole Misses like 20% of something. Their plays are all explosive. All of their plays are explosives. Everything is like 25 plus yard completions. Everything. They go deep, deep, deep. And then they got a quarterback now that can run his ass off too, right there. What's his name again? Turn it at Chamblis. Great name. Also national champion, I believe, right? D2 Ferris State last year, yeah. Okay, he's a beast, so we'll be excited to see all of these teams play it. Go ahead. No other team in America has more explosive

plays through the air than Ole Miss. They have 25 for 20 plus yards. A third of their completions is an explosive play. There it is. 33% of their completions are explosive plays. They are exciting. And once again, that goes back to Lane Kiffin

and his offense, and also hears him throwing an oop in Memphis after a turnover. Go ahead and get the eye. Yeah. All right, that's Lane Kiffin. The many lives of a tonight. We'll talk to them at 205. The NFL delivering in a huge way. And we haven't had a chance to really hear from the barbarian.

We haven't really had an opportunity to hear from the trenches. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Super Bowl champion. AQ. Shepleash Takeaway. Let's go. From week three of the NFL season, what do we got, AQ? Detroit goes big to bully Baltimore. We go down to Baltimore first, and let me tell you, the boys in Detroit ran some. something I haven't seen in a very long time, maybe since the 1930s.

When we look at this, we catch it a little late right here, but you see the two tight ends motion out to the left. They start with three guys in the eye behind Jared Gough. They motion out two tight ends. We're just going to run a simple zone play. This was the flavor of the week. They ran this formation about 30 times in this game, and they gave some different wrinkles. Right here, you see two backs in the backfield. We send Gibbs as eye candy. We send Brock Wright to the right. We run downhill. Let's get back in that super eye formation. We're going to motion two tight ends over to the right.

Guess what we're going to do? Watch how pretty this is. Watch how clean this is. We're going to run duo to the right. Double team, double team. Look at that. Can you run behind that? Yeah, I think I can run behind that.

I think so. Now, backed up in our own end zone. Our own end zone. Look at what we got again. Super eye formation. Two tight ends on back. What's that? Like a human centipede.

Whoa. I was going to say a train. A local mom Like a dance A conga line Yeah like a con I was thinking human set of people Yeah I can see that

Because where the helmets are And once golf leans down Takes a snap It's like The porter is just in his butt Yeah that's what you were thinking Yeah I can see how you would think That other people maybe think

You know a line I get that I get that marching in a life Movies man Five Street yeah I got you Yeah Gifts memes Exactly you see them you know

People's decisions Yeah all of it There's reasons for those to show up Names Yeah go ahead Go ahead though AQ? Yeah, this is the only way you can beat Baltimore. We saw Kansas City doing the playoffs a couple years ago and then right here. You got to go in. When they try and be the bullies, you bully the bully.

Let's do it again. Big formation. Downhill duo. Let's get people on people, hat on a hat, and just beat the shit out of people. How about the Baltimore Ravens? This is your takeaway yesterday? Yep. You said, man, just Detroit going in there and punching the Baltimore Ravens in the mouth in their house is a wild takeaway. Coach B.A. said the same exact thing. It is crazy. two 90 plus yard drives because it's one thing to go into somebody's house and beat them. Like they've been beat at home obviously in big games, but to just get

absolutely bullied like two 95 plus yard touchdown drives where they're just running, running, running, running the ball down your throat. That's tough to do against any team, especially a team known for their physicality. Well, what about the other side, AQ? Like, how do the Lions get seven sacks

on Lamar Jackson? Like, obviously hutch, but were you able to see what they were doing on that side, just because, I mean, it was basically something we've never seen from Lamar before. You never see him get sacked that many times. I thought Shepard did a great job. They played spy most of the game on Lamar Jackson, and when you do that, you take away a little bit of his run, because when he doesn't have something right away, he wants to run. Well, he doesn't have that because there's a spy sitting there, and then it ended up being late, and you end up getting these sacks, but then they dropped seven in coverage most of the

night. So you go seven in coverage to cover three receivers or four receivers, there's nothing there. And then you go to try and run and you don't have it because you've got that spy sitting there. Lamar was awesome. Some of those throws us on. I mean, he is spectacular to watch. Is Baltimore going to fix it on the defensive side? It's more a question for

D-butt over there, but I think if they hand the call sheet over. No, no, don't be doing that. No, no, don't be doing it. Let's go. Chuck, we need you, Chuck. I got bets on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl, Chuck. Let's go to the next

when we teased this one earlier because this is a big deal. Dog pound, big D dominance. Yeah. Big dog pound, big D dominance. Okay. These guys are flying off the tape. When you look at this, let's take a look at the top five pick, Mason Graham lined up to the left.

You'll see him circled. Malik Collins has been playing forever, sets the pick, and they just meet at the quarterback in less than two seconds. That's right. Now let's take a look at Miles Garrett over here on the right. You'll see a circle coming. Tucker Kraft coming motion. He's going to try and kick him out.

Subtle move. Avoid, get back underneath, make the play. That's incredible. Get him with a little stank here. He did. We're a deadleg there. I mean, it's incredible. How good is that?

He's a good player. He's a good player. He's powerful. He's agile. He's great. He's dumb. He's confident. He's, this guy's unbelievable.

He is unbelievable. That's why Haslam said, what is you want? 40 million? Done. All right. Fuck it. Don't even need to meet with him. Don't meet with me.

Say no more, my friend. Just tell us a number in that entire thing. Go ahead. Akewish? Yeah, let's take a look at this next play. Aiden Huntington, not Aidan Hutchinson, Aden Huntington. Rookie, 6'1, 280 pounds out of two lane. Just beat Aaron Banks, their big free agent signing, jumps around. Looks like a little shades of Aaron Donald. Whoa! Aaron Donald!

That's a big name, Akew's. Aaron Donald! I don't want to oversell this because he's the greatest player that's ever played on the defensive side of the ball. But 6-1-2-80, same type of move, same type of quickness. I mean, he's jumping off the tape. He's got hands like Robert Mathis, too, coming off of there. Ooh. How good is that? Hey, you give me that quick at that side.

That's some big statement. Hey, Aaron Donald, you said. Are the Browns just going to have the greatest defensive line in the history of football and win 12 games a year now? Yes. Let me give you a couple stats here, right? Hey, like that. Week one, seven yards of offense for the Cincinnati Bengals against this Cleveland Browns defense in the second half.

Oh, yeah, I remember. Let's go to week two, Baltimore Ravens. What do they like to do? They like to pound the rock. They like to run it, right? 13 yards rushing and 23 yards rushing for Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry shutting it down.

Lamar throwing. Let's go against this week. What have we said about the Green Bay Packers? Arguably one of the best teams, if not the best team through the first couple weeks? Shut him down. Beat them up. Met at the quarterback all game long.

All the stats about the Cleveland Brown's defense right now are yep, yep, yep, they're the best, they're the best, they're the best, they're the best, they're the best. That was not the conversation going in this season, was it? No, definitely not. It was my quarterback. You guys got can't pick it? Everybody's going to wear gloves? He's going to wear gloves in the dog pounds?

Is that what's going to have? That was a conversation. that happened. Shador Sanders, fifth round pick. Let's give this guy more opportunity. Why don't we let him play? That was a conversation that happened. Dylan Gabriel, he's drafted for third round, but come on. He can spend it a little bit, but is he going to be able to,

only Drew Brees and Kyler have been able to do that. Is he, and then Joe Flacka, he's just there for what, to hang out? What is Joe Flacka? Those are all conversations that happened in the offseason. Not one conversation was at, and we're part of the problem. Jim Schwartz was the defense coordinator of that Cleveland Brown's team. Then he spent 40 million on Miles Garrett, obviously they're very committed to the defense, at least

to one particular player. And last year or two years ago, their defense at home was like the greatest in history. I think of Jim Schwartz, I automatically think of good defense. And I guess with all the weapons that they have, this is sustainable, too, right, for them? Oh, yeah. And they got a rookie second rounder out of UCLA playing linebacker, Carson

Swessinger. Oh, yeah. Love them. Love them. I mean, they have talent everywhere. And they picked up some pieces, some veteran pieces, like a Malik Collins, who has been around forever, but always been a good player, not a great player, and he is shining in this defense. Debaugh, what do you like about Jim Schwartz's, D? What do you like about the Cleveland?

Always fly around, always going to be on the same page. When you have a guy like Miles Garrett, who's on an all-time pace, I believe he's only behind, like, Reggie White, when it comes to like where he is, age, and sacks. Like, when you have a player like that, that changes the math every Sunday, you've got other guys, young guys that just fly around and on the same page.

Not to mention Denzel Ward, who's one of the best cornerbacks in the league as well, Greg Newsman. I like everything they have, but you know the Schwartz defense. They're going to fly around. going to be on the same page, especially at home. They are a damn good football team. They are a damn good football team. I got to figure out their offense. Well, I actually texted

in this morning. I said, you know what? Going back and watching that second half, I think Joe Flacko started figured out. I really do. I mean, hey, he didn't play great all game. He didn't play great for 59 minutes and 42

seconds. But when it mattered, Joe gets them right to the line. Boom. completes a slink gets the boys on a ball spikes it, field goal team comes out we win a game

what does Joe Kool do he wins football games and what do you do as a Packers fan yeah I mean you watch it and say I hope this Cleveland team's really good

this boy we looked very bad that's what their defense does though it's the big dogs yeah in Cleveland big days dominance and it makes sense

it does make sense what's the third takeaway Akush Big bucking backup we like this yeah yeah

you know that way Absolutely nailed that one. I like what you're doing. All right, so let's take a look at this group, right? Let's start before we let this play run. You got Graham Barton, their first round pick from a year ago. Played left tackle at Duke should be their starting center. Because of all the injuries, Tristan works is out.

Let's move our starting center out to left tackle. Ben Bredeson, starting guard. Let's move him into center. They're down to their third guard, Klein, who they drafted a year ago. Started with Michael Jordan. Went to the next guy. They're both out. Let's go to the right.

right side and right tackle they got Charlie Heck playing right tackle we've been practice squad the last couple years it's backups across the board and people play in different positions let's watch Graham Barton right here let this thing run. Get it off. Watch this. They run a counter. Get Barton around. Boom!

Burry him down. He's fucking. That is a big bucking burial. How good is that? First play the second half let's watch the offense line just wash everybody down put the foot in the ground, get back side. 16 yard run. How do you set the tone in the second half? You run the ball and you beat him up up front.

He's a big balker. Yeah, he is. That was a good one. Let's take a look at this last one. Look at the protection by this O-line. Look at the protection. Look at the protection. Nowhere near. Baker, trust him.

Look at that ball to Egbuka down the sidelines. Baker said that Baker disrespected that ball because he won't one-handed with it when it was good enough ball to catch it with two hands. Then he called him a rookie. Now, we're hearing that they don't treat him like a rookie down there from Levanti David. Igbuka has surprised everybody with.

with how Maturi is and how awesome he is. He's become a very quick weapon for that Buccaneer team. But you're saying they're nowhere near healthy in the most important part, which is the offensive line and are still undefeated. How are they getting it done? Just strictly by good play, by the center playing left tackle, or whenever they get their guys back,

are they going to take it to a whole other level? Yeah, when they get their guys back, they are going to take it to a whole other level. But the interesting thing, when you watch them on tape, Kevin Carberry is their offensive line coach. That's who Liam Cohen brought there. That's who Liam wanted to take to Jacksonville. They didn't let him out of the building

because he's that good. They are well-coached across the board. When you look at their double teams, they're hip-to-hip. Nobody's getting split. So it doesn't matter who they're putting in there, they're showing up. That's awesome. Congrats to the box, making the big bucking backers. That's really good news.

Thank you, Akews for your takeaways. Feels like I learned a little bit more. And it feels like I learned a little bit more about ball. Can't wait to see you're in the trenches. You know, top five performing offensive lines from week three. I'm hoping there's a team in there. Okay? There's a little bit more respect.

And hopefully that'll happen. I hope so too. Don't you think? Yeah, spot that down. Vocal leader on the offensive line at guard. That never happens. Feels like offensive linemen should be happy about that. Agreed.

Like, promote that. Maybe not be a hater of that. Do you think that happens anywhere? They were on in week one. They weren't in week two. It's only week three. And if they're in it two out of three weeks, that's pretty good. We'll see.

Wait, they were on at week one? Oh, yeah. Five. Oh, shit. Yeah, they're not. He wanted to drop him out. Remember, he put a losing team up or won. Oh, yeah, that's why that we were to watch.

Remember, we started the entire thing, yeah, so it's tough. Let's just make sure we're continuing to be fair and square on these. Let's make sure we're only going with what the eyes were saying. Let's not be, you know, getting texts from coaches. Yeah, exactly. Hey, we're number two this week. That was so cool. Good breakdown.

Don't be getting swayed from that. The eye in the sky never lies, and my eyes on that tape never lie. Okay, well, I hope that's the case. I do. You know who lied a little bit? Who's that? A little bit. I guess misled, but it was a great headline.

Adam Schaefter put on a tweet. That said, Michael Parsons said, it's going to be painful to tackle Dak Prescott. Describing tackling Dak Prescott, it's going to be painful. People read that and go, Mike is out for blood. It's going to kill him. Micah's looking to a thing.

And certainly, Michael Parsons on sacking Dak Prescott. It's going to be painful. Okay, so... Period. Period. Okay, no context. There might be people that are like very good people

that might have thought one particular way, but a lot of people thought and read that and said, Mike's about to break that half. Dude, he's going to inflict maximum pain. Oh my God, pain. Full.

The maximum amount. We want that thing filled to the brim of pain. Now, that's how some people could think. I don't think that's how Schefter took it whenever he posted it, but some people took it that way. Rob Marty, the Associated Press,

provided video of the full content, context of the conversation. Listen to Mike to actually talk about Dak. I think it's a pretty good little clip. And what if you get that opportunity? I know you will want to with Dak. What would that feel like? You know, it's going to be painful. You know what I mean? That's my guy. You know, he was always like a good mentor for me. But you know it is. He always told him if I ever faced him that, you know, it'll be a great match him. So I'm excited to see what Sunday brings yourself. It's going to be painful for himself. Yeah.

Because he's going to hurt his guy, Dak. Man, I didn't read it that way at all. I was like, Michael wants to hurt this guy. Then I thought back to what was being said about Dak during training camp. Remember, a little mic'd up? Oh, yeah. On the sideline, a little catch. I'm like, man, what the fuck is going on?

It's complete opposite. Mike is like, Dak's my guy. Dak also, leader of that team. I think Mike McCarthy said Dak is for sure alpha in there. I like to hear that from Micah. I like the full context of that. Yeah, and I know you said Shepty might have misled a little bit. I think, I think Michael's lying.

What? I think he's lying. I think he can't wait to sack that, Prescott, because... You're saying he was saying it's painful for him, but he let it off to be painful for him. I think he's lying because I play with a great all-time past freshman, who should be in the Hall of Fame, Robert Mathis. And when 18 came back into the house that he built,

got a stadium outside of Lucasville, he couldn't wait to hit 18. And he did. Strip sack. In the end zone. Fungle. Yeah, we can't wait. So I think Mike is bullshit. And I respect it.

Hey, I like the fact that he paid respect to Dak. former team. You know, that's good for culture stuff, for how I'll view DAC as a leader. I think that's good going forward. But to Robert Mathis's point, that this, with Peyton like this, is photo. Yeah. How many do you have?

It's all the time. I'm the fourth or fifth and whatever the amount of sacks that Robert Matthews has. It's so much. And obviously, everybody talks about Dwight Frini. Robert Mathis is on the other side. Just full chaos. Strip sack, yeah. It's his stat. They didn't have it for a long time. He was the guy that did it. He started off on the

kickoff team. He started off on the he was covering kicks and then he turned himself into the guy that he is off the edge and to your point, Hall of Fame Conversation should certainly take place. But him hitting Baton was certainly the one. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because what? We're teammates for 14 years, however many years and

all every time in practice, you know, quarterbacks you know, pat the ball hit you then. You'll de-limy, you beat your guy, can't get near the quarterback now. Finally Sunday you can act. No red jersey on. Yeah. Where were they? Where was that ball snapped at? They were backed up. I mean, it was some good coverage in the back.

Yeah, it was a good coverage on the back end. Obviously, Payton's getting a little tasty, you know. That's good stuff. That's good day. Bring that back one more time. Started on the four, I think. I just want to watch Wes in the slot. He couldn't get open.

Really? I was looking for him all night. Hi, I, I, what color of the glass? He was going to him. He was trying to. Yeah, he worked, baby. Yeah, it definitely is. That's awesome.

Yeah, I'll be excited to see that game. how do you feel about it all how do you feel about the entire context of the conversation of that particular game uh i mean i don't mind i think it's weird that they're trying to make a big deal that there's not going to be like a big video package for micah coming back like it seemed like that's kind of what and i get it like typically that probably would happen but he never won anything now emitt smith smith is a little bit different yeah i mean jerry came back that's literally what jerry yeah exactly jerry's saying that kind of you know obviously amplifies everything and it's like okay well jerry come on obviously people are going to be pissed about that but he never won any

thing. I mean, I think it is going to be cool just to kind of see because the leading up to it, all that we're going to have to talk about it just with the, you know, Micah going back there, but then there's going to be the immediate aftermath too of if the, if he has two sacks against the Cowboys

and the Packers throttle him, like that following Monday, I'll be very excited to see that, but it'll be interesting. And their left guard, rookie, first round pick, Tyler Booker is out for the next four weeks. A lot of bad news coming on, Doug. Jerry's quote that we popped up from mature was fantastic. I don't think that's appropriate this way.

Emmett was a different story. That's not to diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough welcome out there. Okay, we just need to show we've got anecdotes for that. So they'll put a picture up of them. Yeah. Congratulations. It might even say like, thank you Michael on the, it might. I wouldn't put it past Gary. He called him Michael 14 times. He did. He hates his guts. There's no two ways about it. They had a bad ending. Yeah, I do. They certainly had a bad ending there.

Good beginning. We'll talk about Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis. AQ, have you been following this Colts? I know you're working for the Cardinals, and now you're a commentator, so you're obviously going to be biased towards that team forever. If we start seeing them. Yeah, every week. Yeah, we're going to have to start wondering that because he's actually doing this for

them on team playing, I think. So this guy ain't going to say shit about that in time. But I do wonder if you've been watching the Indianapolis Colts. I have. because, boy, this team is spectacular. All the talent that we've had over the last few years, seemingly being used at maximum occupancy. Danny Dimes' offense has been spectacular.

He's calling out blitzes. He's putting us in the right plays. He's telling guys where to line up. And the other guys, by the way, not only they're lining up perfectly, they're all on the same page. They're seeing the picture of the same exact way. People are cutting off routes. Danny Dimes hit him.

Danny's shuffling in a pocket. Quentin Nelson's yelling and screaming at people. You know why this all is maybe more crazy than you could ever imagine? because you finally get a guy in Danny Dimes who got a little bit of experience it didn't go great but that experience 96% was that what it was 96% on the athletic fan pole

7% optimism 93% okay so 93% of the Colts fans who don't know ball if they're the same people that were coming after me last year and they are okay and that's the people that it would be the super active on the internet, they

polls people. We appreciate how excited they are about the Colts, we hope, as a whole, but also how passionate they were about their causes and how they felt. They were certainly very, very, very aggressive with me. They don't know ball, okay? That was a proof.

Here is what the positive thoughts or optimism for the team going into the season was. The Indianapolis Colts were deadlocked, worse than the Saints. And the Saints had just an open understanding that they weren't really going to be able to win for a while. Hey, we're hiring Kellynne Moore.

It's going to be processed. So give them a couple of years. That's basically what everybody has said down there. The Colts, 7%, this was after they hired, or named Danny Dimes as a starting quarterback. Yep. Mine was the same. I felt the same way. Now I'm all in on them.

Yeah, it was. You, you, you, you, yeah, we understand. We've been waiting, man. It's been a revolving door quarterback. We fucking found them. You should have known. Should have known. we found him okay he's this big what evidence was there yeah that's right the vikings tried to pay him

yeah the viking oh that's the evidence they wanted to pay him more he got in the building kevin o'conn's like holy shit we got to give this guy amount of money then colts offered something the viking's like we'll give him more because he was in the building and then he's like uh i don't think you guys are going to really let me start here right colt's seemingly going to give me an actual competition chance over there and on that money note here's the kbr ranks this year thus far we're only three weeks end of the season danny dimes is getting paid 14 and a half million dollars this if all of his shit hits, all of his incentives hit, which 300,000 has already hit or something like that.

And he's well on his way, I assume, to continue to hit him. Jared Goff, 32.6 million. Okay, love that the Detroit Lions are back. Also, that's not that bad of a cap hip. And remember, when Jared Goff was traded to Detroit, one of the big conversations was, who's going to pay this guy's salary? That was a big part of it.

So the Detroit Lions saying, we'll pay the salary was a huge piece. Gave us the first rounder for that. Yeah, they're like, thank you for, we gave him this deal, we fucking, so much. Good enough, and they extended him. They gave him the four years, 160 or 100, whatever it was, to probably lessen that cap hit and pay their guys.

Yeah, so Brad Holmes up there working some magic. And also Jared Goff showing his love and appreciation, I think, to the Detroit Lions organization as a whole. Worth every single penny. So then you go down to number three, Lamar Jackson, him and his mom negotiated this deal, $43.5 million at this stage of what quarterbacks are getting paid. Do you think Lamar Jackson's not getting paid anywhere near what he's.

showed his next contract is going to be outrageous, especially now that he's the number one passer rating. Josh Allen just won the MVP, $36.3 million. He just got paid a little bit ago. And Patrick Mahomes kind of set the tone for all this whole thing. When he signed a, we thought it was a 10-year deal. Turned out it was an eight-year deal worth like 44 or something like that, million a year. But we were told it was 50 a year. Yeah, 10 years, 500 million is what the original reports were. And then it gets down, it's like eight years, 40, $34 million. It's like, well, where'd all the other money go? I feel like that wasn't the original report. Maybe we were just wrong. But that long-term deal with Patrick Mahomes kind of started setting up everybody else because they were able to do salary cap gymnastics. Vich was able to keep everybody that they wanted to keep. Now granted, Tyreek Hill was not able to remain Kansas Chief. But basically, everybody else, they've been able to kind of manage because of Patrick Mahomes's deal. And anytime somebody signs a new deal, all the pundits on the internet tell people, or tell Patrick Mahomes, for a good reason, he needs to walk into Brett Veech's office. and say, I want New Deal.

Those guys making $50 million. There's guys making damn near $60 million. There's people that are going to make $70 million playing quarterback in the NFL right around the corner. And the number one QBR right now is making 14 and a half. And for that, we thank him. You can build up the rest of the team. This is just like rookie contracts. Aaron Rogers is on for what, $10 million, I think, this year is the money he's getting paid.

You can still build a good team around that. I thought that was going to be the way you kind of have to do it to win. then the Philadelphia Eagles won, and they've paid everybody. So I think if you've got a good salary cap gymnast, I think you can make some magic happen, but your quarterback getting paid from every stat that we've seen basically over the last however many years, when your quarterback has taken that bigger percentage,

it's tough to build a winner around it. Yeah, there's no doubt. This only furthers the narrative about developing quarterbacks, and when you look at a guy like Danny Dimes, a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, and maybe Carson Went's next, right? I think you look at this. They're just not prepared coming out of college. The games are two completely different games.

College football versus pro football. You go back to the mid-2000s, the game mirrored the NFL. The college game mirrored the NFL. Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State. Everybody in the Big Ten was running pro-style offense. SAC was two. Alabama was running a rock. They were.

Yeah, they were doing the whole thing. And now everybody is just trying to win. You don't have enough time because people might transfer. We just need an offense that's easy. One progression reads and hand the ball off and run RPO's. That's what college football is. And so then you expect these guys to step in and be Danny Dimes in year four. five in year one and it's just not the case so you're saying it's quite a leap whenever it comes

to figuring out what the hell the other side of the ball is doing to you because these are professionals and they spend their entire lives on it and it's the all-star game for the past five generations playing against you is that what you're saying because defenses are like much more sophisticated oh yeah like you broke you showed the brian flores the skies defense at the vikings ran the other day i think j jay walk quotes we didn't put it out there you see guys moving and going crazy and everybody's talking about matt patricia what he's going to be able to do with that Ohio State defense is it defenses are much more sophisticated in the NFL like how much different is the sophistication levels of the defense and why does it's from a defensive

guy's perspective why do quarterback struggle at a young age playing against you so it's the same thing that a cue was talking about and on the college level for defenses since offenses are getting up to the line of scrimmings so quickly and calling plays from the sideline the defenses have to be simplified as well we got to get lined up we got to get a call out you don't I don't know if they have the green dot for defenders in college, but getting that communicated across the field is a big deal. So when you get to the NFL level, now not only is it the defensive court in making the calls, but you have a guy like Levante David or somebody, Bobby Wagner or other signal callers out there making adjustments to the call made. So you have, that's what,

you know, you always hear be a pro, be a pro. So now you have the guys when you 10 seconds left on the play clock, a guy you may be blitzing, I may switch to blitz. Hey, I'll cover you blitz. So you have all those different adjustments and coaches got to, you know, I think Brady talked about this. It's on the coaches too because a lot of coaches get passes on not developing these quarterbacks. And some of these coaches just aren't good to that level where they can be

patient and help them where they need to grow. So when you get a guy like Danny Dimes who gets to a place like this where things are in place around them, you can really grow and you can really have that confidence in yourself because you cannot, you can't play any position in the NFL where you're actually thinking. Like you have to just be prepared

and react. You have to play. Yeah, the only way you can react is by you know already been preparing understanding what's coming having answers anticipating things hitting throws because guys aren't you got to throw a lot of guys open what's open in the NFL is completely different what's open in college as a defender if I'm on a guy if I'm on tie I'm here most quarterbacks I can make that play NFL Sunday's like nah you got to be on that you got to be a step ahead so it's just a completely different game you got to have patience sometimes and a lot of we don't we don't owners front office you don't have that same type of patience or development around you

these guys. So it's a tough task. Well, the issue is, and I wrote about this in my notes section in 2000, maybe 15, 16. I thought social media had amplified people's lack of patience in professional sports. Because

back in the day, you would have to read like a journalist thoughts on you, or maybe an opinion would get sent into the paper. But if ESPN or some TV person wasn't covering your shit, nobody really, you know, either knew how bad it was, or you didn't have an opportunity to hear from literally all of your fans. Now with social media,

you see how fans react and how people feel. So if you even give off the perception of being okay with what's going on, you're facing a revolt potentially, like on a complete, why is this are, this guy doesn't care, this lady doesn't care at all, they're okay with us just being bad. Why would I care as a fan? And you're seeing people say that, like in droves. And I'm not saying that every business makes decisions because of things that they see on the internet, but there's a reason why Yelp became what Yelp became and there's a reason why like surveys are a thing whenever you see an abundance of things I think it's hard to sit in the pocket while everybody is attacking and saying we're going to stick with it we're going to stick with it because in the off chance that

you're wrong and you're patient with something and it's not it never pans out you have fucking lost everything in doing that so like the quicker trigger I think is happening strictly because of the amount of information that people in decision making decisions have with how everybody reacts. Like, think about owners learning how all of their fans feel for the first time opening their ex-goe. Like, think about Jim Ursay opening that fucking thing for the first time. And just go,

what's this? Mensions. Let's see what this is. Brother. Oh, my. Somebody tell them we did good. You know, like, somebody's, because now it's just like, ah, so I think that's why they make better decisions. So, like, the quarterback patient's thinking,

I guess we're part of the problem as well, because Anthony Richardson need to be developed, need to be developed, need to be developed. So as he's developing, you're trying to figure out, like, does he have all the traits that when he's developed, he's going to be a guy? Like, how much, how patient do you have to be? So I think that's why this competition with Danny Dimes is such a big deal. But to your point, if New York Giants would have been patient with Danny Dimes, is Danny Dimes an MVP type player for the New York Giants? If they would have been patient with Baker at Cleveland, is he an MVP-like player at Cleveland? Sam Donald in New York, that lists the people that kind of goes on a

the fair like the merry-go round is very big so it's a interesting dynamic right now with college in the NFL and even once you get good in the NFL like once you're good now it's almost harder to continue to be good like all these young quarter whoever jane daniels or whoever hey okay see you took CJ you took the league by storm your first year but now when you're coming into the league and everybody has a plan for you to take away you know what you do best what's your counter you know like we were spoiled for the teams we rooted for you know you know Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Brett, Big Ben. Like, these guys were good every week.

You know, every week, you get about a minute, 13, 11 o'clock, two-time miles. We're getting at least a field goal. We're getting a touchdown. Like, you know those things. But to do that consistently throughout the league, weekend, a week out, year in a year out, at that position is tough because this is all guys, this is all, you know, Chuck Pugano's and the guys around the league are thinking about Jim Schwartz.

They're thinking about Jeff, you're getting a plan for this guy, specifically for this week to put him in the best position to do what he does not as good as, you know, take away his fastball, and it's tough to do weekend and week out. Louis Arummo, you know, he's out there drawing it off for the Indianapolis coach. We had Cam Bynum's conversation

will be running about 2.30-ish or so. He was electrifying, but he mentioned Tom Brady there for you. Tom Brady's been talking about this. Well, and that's the thing. Like, we say, like, if the Giants had patience, like the Giants might have just hired the wrong people every single time. Like, you can't rule that out either. Tom Brady talked about when he was a rookie

on Coward basically, you know, his QB coach had a hard attack passed away really early. So Belichick became the de facto QB coach of Tom Brady's rookie year. And like what he talked about was, you know, the development of quarterbacks is so important because, you know, some guys just bring a system

and they say, hey, this is my system, this is what we're going to run, you're going to look here if it's not there, you're going to throw here. Whereas when Brady was a rookie in the NFL, Bill Belichick comes in and he says, QB coach, and he's saying, hey, this team runs, cover one when we are in this

formation, the reason they do this is because their D.C. likes to do this with this player. This team runs cover three in third and five because this team runs cover zero with blitzes on third and long because they're super aggressive,

whereas that's not happening now with these younger QB. So the reason a resurgence is happening for Danny Dimes, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, because those guys go somewhere, they get coach correctly, they get put in an offense that isn't just like, hey, if this is here, that will be there.

But on Sunday, if you ask a question, and this reminds me of Mack Jones, when Matt Patricia became the OC of Mac Jones in New England, the kind of process was, hey, Mac Jones asked him about what happens if there's a blitz, and he didn't have an answer for him, and that's also the problem that the players, you know, you don't hear about because, hey, this player stinks, it's his fault. It has nothing to do with the coach. So Tom Brady saying, if you raise the expectations for a player, the player will raise the expectations for himself. The more you put on

and maybe be underwater, but maybe the better he'll perform. But what if it's the wrong guy that can't retain all that shit? You know, that's the, then there's a whole other side of the conversation. But Tom Brady's been very open about, hey, I don't think the game is anywhere near as sophisticated as it needs to be for these quarterbacks, and you're only affecting the game as a whole, is what he says. But I'll tell you what, here in Indianapolis, we're pumped for whatever happened with dating. Go ahead and run that thing. Now, Ty, we have a minute and a half, and we have to.

We have to mention baseball. Baseball is having a big time. on right now. Yeah, without a doubt. There are five days left of the season, so a bunch of teams are still alive right now, but the biggest story currently, unfortunately, Foxy, is the Detroit Tigers are in the midst of one of the biggest collapses in baseball history. They've lost seven straight games. I believe it was on July 8th. They had a 14 and a half game lead in the division. And as you can see there, you know, it has just continually been stripped down by the Cleveland and Guardians. And they are the first team of all time. They've eliminated a 13 and a half lead game in the division over the last month or so. They're 17 and 3 over their last 20 games. So

them and the Tigers are tied. I believe they play another game tonight and then there are four games after this. So the Yankees clinch last night, they could still win the ALEs to the blue, thank you, who the Blue Jays are in. Red Sox are still. live. Seattle clinch, I believe it was last night as well. They were battling with the Houston Astros for a long time. Houston's also collapsed quite a bit, and that's kind of getting taken away by what the Tigers are doing. And then you can see on the right side there with the NL, kind of a lot of the usual suspects. Most of these teams have already clinched. The Mets are who everyone's looking at because they have been absolutely horrendous as a late. So everyone's still alive.

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I think he gets pretty jacked up, too. Got me to jump off sides one time. That's A.Q. Shipley, 12-year NFL vet. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and Attie Schmidt. Live from Hammer. Dime. Time is AP. Tone, good to see you.

College football is about to be. And gambling is obviously going to continue to be awesome. Are the people up or are the sports books up? Oh, sports books. Yeah. Boy, it's big time. Jesus. Real big time.

They got us in the first quarter. Okay? They got us. For the rest of this game, we fucking start seeing it. Stay hot. We got right where we want them. That's right, because they're getting a little bit too comfortable. They're AI that's cooking up the algorithms to figure out what the spreads are and where the money's what and how everybody's feeling.

Where the sharks and, you know, they got more information than ever these books. we do too now they got a lot more okay they got everybody's betting habits they know exactly where everybody's going they know where the smart people are going they know where the bad people are going and they obviously see things much differently than we do but we need to remember that they can be wrong and the humans are superior exactly right well said no doubt think so this is our week rest in peace to dave sherpan yeah sports book can sick oh yeah we're gonna miss the shit out of that yinzer he was great gone way too soon on that note are to make these lines or is this thing all AI, Tone?

I would highly doubt that there's a lot of human involvement in these lines. So we gotta beat these things. Mm-hmm. Okay, what do we got? Find your edge. We all we got. We are all we got.

Live. And if it's not us, then who? Got to get them live. Tone, the live betting? Yeah. Because, hey, I can't react. They don't know. Soft-ass. They got no awareness.

They don't have eyes. Limp off the field. Yeah. Not with that being said, I'd like to let my AI know. I think you're not these things. I think you're right. When I ask the question, I need a right answer. Can't be having you be wrong. Grock.

I'm out on my... I saw a scary one yesterday. Apparently there's an AI now that you can FaceTime with people and just choose not to be your face. It could be anybody's face. Okay. That's cool. That's a problem. Okay, who fucking decided to do that one? Some serial killer?

Why are we letting these things happen? Why is this? That's what we don't need. We need good stuff. Only the good stuff. For instance, Q&A, but it needs to have the right answers. It may be not getting so confused so easily. How does that happen? How

do we get to the end game? Yeah, just how does that, how do they get confused? I had an interaction an interesting interaction with the GROC. Now, chat GV. GROC is a homie from X and Twitter. I don't say well, Tony. GROC's great. GROC stinks. Yeah. GROC, grok. Whoa. He

it's a far inferior product to every other AI. Okay. See, I just want to let GROC know. He's listening? He is. I'm not saying. This is somebody else. We know why it's inferior.

All the information is getting from us idiots on Twitter. It doesn't have anything else. It's actually probably pulling from AP tone, which is maybe a portable. It's part of it. GROC doesn't just search X searches the entire thing because I watched the new GROC kind of calculate answers. It's telling me where it's at. Scan the internet. We're at a different website and we're doing this entire thing.

So I think GROC's trying to kind of reach outside of just the X. There's a lot of bolts. You get caught up in the X. X shite. Yeah. I mean, even the greatest of AI probably can't Baham. A lot of shit in here. Yeah, I don't know how you get through it. You know, it was pretty simple, though. What's that? Numbers. Pretty

simple, one, two, three, ABCs. Like, colors. You know, like colors. You learn colors. Like, McKenzie probably doing pretty good with their colors, aren't? Yeah. Blue. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Even learning multiple languages. I don't know. In my school, at least South Florida, we learned multiple languages. Excuse me? Rock. AI. It's supposed to be most

Evan Eli made it, right? Yeah, either. Colors. I mean, I know I'm wearing green right now. Today, a lot of different shades of green. If you go to my timeline, I don't know how far you have to scroll up, and you might have to do some reverse engineering how we actually got to the spot. But Grok said, it would be much better if I walk you through the tweet.

Basically, DeButch and Groch have been going at it a little bit. Yeah, and Grok's angle's not a good one to be behind. I'll say it is. First of all, got Gallifinacus wrong. Yeah. Mr. Redford, rest in peace on the gift. Okay, you searching at Brock Galfinacus,

Robert Redford pops up as the top one. Yeah, what the hell? Well, rest of peace, Mr. Reverend. To be fair. No, no, no. That's fucking Jeremiah Johnson. That ain't fucking Zach Galvan. I know that, but we're humans with emotions

and we have emotional connections to these people. If you're just looking at that photo, you can easily say, Galfinasky. That's not his name either. It's got, easily. Genesley. Galifanakish is his name. Exactly. Hangover, that is that gift if we're all talking about. Bruce, have you found it?

All right, here we go. Okay, so this is, so who is this, E.A. tax, whatever, right? Scroll up to the video? Yeah, so this video, first of all, clip from up and at him just going to. Now, this, this, this clip kind of goes viral every, you know, every few, every few months or so, some account tweets it out. and someone asks, hey, who are these people? So Grok answers. They're sports broadcasters.

Kay Adams and NBA star Draymond Green from a funny segment in our show. It was funny segment, too, be clear. Funny segment. Funny segment. I know me and Dreymar, we're both dark. We're both, you know, dark-skinned, black guys, you know, both athletes.

I don't think, I haven't got mixed up with Dreymar. I don't think he's got mixed up with me. If we keep going scrolling down, so it comes to my attention, someone tweets to me, hey, there's ball of the Groxing have you mixed up, confused, blah, blah, blah, scrolled down, so then I start to interact. Oops, my bad.

That's actually Kay Adams, and former NFL player, Darius Butler on Up and Adams. I must have mixed up the Greens. The Green. Dremont versus Darius, thanks for the correction. Yeah, now as you start and you say my name, so Darius first name, last name, Butler, and then you go, Draymond Green.

You say you must have mixed up the Greens. So then obviously, obviously I would add. The obvious question is mixed up the greens, huh? So, yeah, pretty, pretty interesting. Yeah, so, you know, this is a good gift. Great gift. So we scroll down, that's not Steve Harvey, just like, you know, obviously may be confused with the hangover.

Zach Gallif. What's the name again coming? Galifanask. And you could search. If you could search Steve Harvey, and that would pop up because, hold on. Wait. Oh, no.

Are you getting mixed up, too? But, yeah. So I thought it's very interesting. What we're saying is, still has a lot to learn a lot a lot to learn so whenever by the way i don't like that that happened and grok should be issuing a nice uh message my bad is you know hey grok take it easy uh we need to beat them whenever they're the sports books joining us now is a man who's a uh pro football hall fame nominee he's a college football national champion he's a super bowl champion

he's a rider cup winner ladies and gentlemen the former president of ohio j hawk Congrats. Hall of Famer, dude. Congrats. Yep, thank you. Honored. Very honored. Come on.

I knew. First hour, we did, what, seven, eight minutes on how pumped. You guys were very nice. Hey, you guys were all very nice. I learned of it from you watching the show that the whole, that was even on that list. But yeah, you guys were very nice.

I appreciate that. No problem at all. The list of nominees was released this morning. AJ Hawk on the list for the first time. We are incredibly pumped for you, AJ. I know you would diminish this because you have, to be a guy that didn't need titles or approval from other people to feel fulfillment or have success. And that's because you were in Brian Erlacker's division playing the same exact

position. So if you were to get upset about getting voted for things at your position, that would have taken over your life. I assume that is why you've gotten to the way you are. I don't know. I think I've always kind of been the way I am. But yeah, I mean, another guy, Lance Briggs on there as well. He should be in, no question. Okay. So with that being said, congratulations. We're happy you're getting acknowledged, AJ. We're happy to get acknowledged. Also with that being said, can you kind of start us off by

explaining why you think you are better than Lance Briggs and Brian Erlacher and maybe Luke Keekley, some of the other, London Fletcher, why do you deserve more than those guys maybe to get in? Yeah, isn't that what they do? They have each guy talk about why they're better than the other guy? I think that's how it goes. Yeah, yeah, it's your turn.

It's kind of the Hawks call, if you will, AJ. Nope, but I saw Nick Mangold's still there. Nick Bennett. get in soon as well. He's been on for years. Roommate from College of A.J. Maybe you guys going together. Oh, that'd be awesome. Oh, my God. That'd be a good little time. Hand to hand.

Yeah. At least overshoulder. You're guys saying GROC? You guys saying D.Buts GROC is racist? That's sound like that. It ain't my GROC. Yeah. It ain't my grog. We know what D.R. stands for in GROC now. Oh. Oh. Racist.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who will be a first ballot Hall of Famer whenever his name is up. Might be alongside A.J. Hawk. Could be. This guy went super zany with his 70s look to celebrate throwback football

with his CBS sports compadres over there. So silly. To celebrate football and how great it is. This man has brought his incredible intelligence and his knowledge to the booth. In two out of the first three weeks, he's had to call his brothers games. And he has maintained a non-biased perspective

that even the fans of the other team say, good on this man. Good on this man. Good on. Hell yeah. He's a former Walter Payton man of the year. He's six foot 100. Sculpted like he's out of stone. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Walt.

Yay! Jay! Hey, Jay for the Hall of Fame. Hell you. We need all the initials we can get in there. JJ, you're 100% right. How about it though? AJ was immediately going to try to diminish that as quickly as possible,

which he did as soon as he got up there. At least take the moment, AJ, and say, hey, your peers, you're great at football. That was a cool thing, I think, JJ for AJ. Yeah, it's who he is. That's why he's nominated for the Hall of Fame, because he's that kind of guy. Maybe we do a whole hour here on A.J. Hawk. We should

pull up a highlight film right now. This should be awesome. Yeah, we actually should. I didn't even think about that until right now. That is what we should maybe do. Or we could compare his stats versus all the other Hall of Fame linebackers and tell him why he should never be in the Hall of Fame. No, see, that's not a good part about being

nominated for the Hall of Fame. We did talk about that earlier how there's guys that are nominated every single year and every year all they have to hear is why they don't deserve to be in a hall of fame that kind of sucks yeah like yeah yeah yeah that's probably not the most oh a j hawk with the tackle and you can play this one you can play this one yeah yeah hey j are we going to make a pick here yep we are nice and then we're going to go to the crib i need some better blocking look at me handling you know in high school i was a running back and a punter i'd get down and let the boys on offense get out there they obviously had full game plan. What am I doing with The Rock? Who's that? Oh, all day. Adrian Peterson. Let me

smother them. And then let me celebrate them. Oh, I love watching these teams, man. I did not like playing against, but I love watching these teams. And that was another one. I got it. I just got shot, guys. Yeah. I got him. Yeah, throw up the shocker, obviously. AJ, always had a little edge to him. Yeah, he did. Always had a little edge to him, which we appreciate. Geez, look at them flying around. AJ, this is Hall of Fame shit right here. Yeah, okay. All right. Let him shoot the gap. Did you see that?

Timing them, timing them up. AQ said earlier, JJ. The thing about AJ is obviously, oh, give me that with a broken hand in the snow. Do we have rewind capabilities? Do we have rewind? Oh, we can certainly do it a little bit. Go back, watch his first step here.

It takes a jab towards the line of scrimmage and then just the control to push himself back out. You got to go back. Yeah, right here. Watch his jab and then back. That was a bait, though. He baited it, Ben. That was a baited him, man

Is that what you That was on purpose, right, AJ? I think it kind of The coverage kind of helped me out there Yeah, exactly That was the show Yep, I'm about The sleeveless turtleneck

The sleeveless turtleneck That's the dicky That's a dicky Or, Jage, it's awesome You know, Aaron works It only goes up to like your nipples Just to cover your neck Hey, you're flying around here

You're flying around here, dude AQ talk to them That's like the, that's like the cousin Eddie in Yeah, Christmas vacation All right, AJ, good luck in the Hall of Fame Good luck, hey! You get in before Keeckley, I'm gonna be pissed.

There is no Keeckley without A.J. I don't know. He was like a super genius. Really good. Thought that AJ wasn't, obviously. He had great intelligence, had good celebrations as well, which we appreciate the year. The amount of enthusiasm had with sideline as well.

He's the whole team effort. He's on the field. And that might be what he's doing right now for the Hall of Fame ceremony. Oh, yeah. You guys remember me now? I want my boss to be out of my hair, man. You think that's what he's going to say?

wear the same suit from draft night oh my god the big boy yeah i need to find that good move oh we know where and you know where it is for sure and you know what have laura use that split jersey too yeah yeah let's use that again yeah it on the back yeah of the suit yeah have it be thus yeah the dress yes yes make a dress out of it boom we figured it out for the whole you're welcome You're welcome, Hawk family. Whole thing ceremony is going to be a great time. Español, how's the team? So Burnley, I saw him not good.

Okay, right? Carabal Cup. We lost the Carabal Cup. They got booted by a Division III team. Okay, so they'll be back. It can't get much worse, I guess, right? Is that what worse? Let's just say if Ball State beat the Green Bay Packers this weekend,

that's basically what happened to Burnley, and Burnley's the Packers. Is that right, Gumpie? Is that what took place? I didn't hear this. I wouldn't go that far, but that's a tough loss to Cardiff City for sure. Oh, no, so the ball state beat the green baby. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll listen to Gump, I'll listen to Gump, talk football all day. I will not sit here and listen to that mullet-headed Boston.

Oh, yeah? About my soccer team. Oh, yeah? You shut your mouth over there in your wolf t-shirt. I play five years high school football. I watched high school soccer for five years. Top-tier high school soccer. We're talking about players who could have.

going on and been a big deal. So, I mean, where do you get on? Hey, guess what? I played FIFA since 2006, bitch. I got all the FIFA's. That's the name of your career, Uncle Rico. I could have gone on and been a big deal. But he knows it. But I said,

oh, you know what? I could go and be a big, cool guy like JJ Y. Or I could smoke cigarettes and drink beer. Oh, what do I want to do? Let me think. Cigarettes and beer every day of the week, bitch. And then become a soccer pundit. And then, you know what? said, hold on. In 2009, when Chris Yardinato was on the cover of FIFA, 2009, I spent over

$250 of my parents' money to get them on my ultimate team. So, yeah, I know soccer. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't know why we're talking about, hey, I don't want to hear Connor talk soccer. No, I know. Ball State beat the Green Bay Packers. Yeah. How about that? Burnley, Green Bay, Cardiff City. We just had a rain man. Anyways, tough one for the battle squad. Get it off the screen. Yeah, it was to care about Cubs. It wasn't good.

We played bad. It wasn't great. We got the Premier League coming back up this weekend. Great comeback. On the other hand. Great comeback yesterday by Espaniole, though. Espaniole, I feel like we got good cafe in the morning, you know. It feels like I like the Espaniole crowd a lot.

I like the Español team. Are we going to be good? Is Es Español good at soccer? We got some juice, man. We got some juice going on right now. We went down. We had to come back 95th minute to tie it up. It was crazy.

the cauldron of chaos is living up to its name it's nuts right now cauldron of chaos we need to make our way over there yeah i don't know enough spanish uh do they all do they all that's don't need to if you know how to if you know how to drink a beer and you know how to cheer for goals that's all we need big guy yeah i got that right i think i think i got that and also coffee i like coffee you got como sauce yeah see so many of those see see see yeah see so many see uno that carries right no yeah one yeah servesa yeah is that also yeah because I don't know what is

you know because there's allegedly different you know words like Spain Spanish dialects yeah there it is in a morning we drink coffee and he often and then we play soccer and we win almost everyone yeah because I think we hide yeah we and we're close with real you know that's gonna let's talk a little football here cultured of chaos is your boo One week, you're so tall, one week you're so small, this week you're so zany, you're really nailing them all here. So let's talk about the glasses, let's talk about the pants, let's talk about signing up for this.

Let's talk about Mr. Eagle's mustache. Yeah. I mean, I like what you guys are doing. CBS celebrated 55 years of football, and I appreciate you participating in that. I think it's actually a pretty good look for you. I think this may be something you should maybe start leaning in on a little bit more. I appreciate that. if it didn't make me look like I might try to take a van near a youth school.

Very, very dommery, yes, very domy. Yeah, yeah. But, no, it was awesome, dude. I mean, we had Brent Musburger open up the broadcast 75 years of NFL today. Like, it was really cool to have all the throwback graphics and everything. I ain't obviously leaning into it. So we had a good time with it. And the long hair played in well.

So I think that we hit the 70s hard. Yeah, I think you hit hard. Your pants also got hit pretty hard by the girth of your thighs. Hell, yeah. Heard those things just blew out. Somebody was zoomed in on your crotch. Just know, everybody's watching everything. I like that you're holding the ball there, you know, make it look like, hey, I'm a football guy while talking football at a football game. I mean, I'm responding to this because it was something that I knew was possibly going to come up. But then as I started going through it, I'm like, man, you really had to be looking close.

and you really had to be, like, slowing that film down. So we got some crotch watchers out there. Got to be a little careful. Definitely. You got more crotch watchers than anybody. Yeah, well, that's why you got to make sure, you know, the whole kit and caboodle's inside the ride. Let's keep our arms and hands inside the vehicle

before we go through to whoopty-woo's a roller coaster. That's certainly a thought that I had there. You've called two of your brother's games. Hang on, I got a question about that. Once you hit water, was there any rearrangement? Was there anything while you were under the water that you had to keep everything in place. Absolutely, dude.

This thing was maybe middle of my back, just right through the cheeks. Yep. And then the issue at the top there is that thing was riding to the right, just completely, side saddle, almost, you know? So I had to fix that. As soon as I go underwater, that happens again, just right up in there. You know, so that thing's up around here. High, tight, high, real tight, I'd say.

So, yeah, underwater, I'm having a battle. I'm not the best swimmer. I can't float. Everybody knows that. So, you know, there's a little bit of a battle down there. But, boy, I love my time. that campus is different than everywhere I've ever been I mean it's a resort

they got like very good schools I think down there private institution they're building that thing up like every day it felt like a very different and their football teams very good JJ very very very good they are I miss the orange bowl though I do miss the orange bowl the orange bowl was pretty awesome yeah historic place it was so hot down there

it was so hot I mean that's an advantage Mario Cristob said that we feel like if teams come down here yeah they have to battle against a couple different things dolphins yeah Lombardo said the same thing about playing to Miami Dolphins Center. Okay, so your brother, you've called two of those games. Thank you for killing it on Sundays, by the way. You've been doing a great job. We've all been watching and listening, and obviously we drop into your games during Red Zone as well, which we're still watching?

Mm-hmm. Still watching Red Zone? Yep. I'm calling. You don't want to create all the cops versus there. No. I said we'll still, basically, I said we don't care. Like, we will still watch it is what I was saying.

I just want to make sure everybody knows I am still watching. Is everybody else still? Yeah, it's not easy, but I'm still doing it. I'm battling as well. Yeah. You're still watching? I'm battling. What's it like?

How big of a change are we talking here? Obviously, I can't see it now. It kind of like ruins your entire Sunday. Yeah, you're lucky you can't see it, bro. Yeah. You get to see it live in person. What we got to see is 15 seconds of this thing pop up four hours in. It's just right there.

And you still got the box right here. And then I think disappears. Yeah. Quarter of a minute. Every time. Where do the football go? And then you got to remember. Oh, it's in a small TV over here.

Oh, shit. Okay, there it is. Now, the issue there, though, Jage. Yeah, still there. It's play through. It's play through. The issue there, Jage, is this is the first step of what these greedy corporate facts are going to do. And I didn't acknowledge that early enough. But I will say still watching Red Zone, your games will get dropped in. We hear you. And then even if we're not watching your game as the main game, we still hear you.

Think you're doing a great job. You having to call your brother's games, two out of the first three weeks of you being in the booth. How has that been for you? I brought up earlier something that could maybe be chatted about. Whenever you see success on the defense side, you probably want to get excited. I mean, what that defense is doing, there's excitable moments there, especially with what your brother's doing. How has that been balancing at all?

And what are your thoughts on this Pittsburgh Steelers team? Yeah, I mean, I've learned that it's even more challenging to do it when he plays well, when he plays really well. I mean, he had two sacks. He had two tackles for loss. You had a fumble recovery. So you're sitting there and like, obviously, we've talked about it multiple times. I'm very conscious of not being biased.

I don't want the call to be biased. I want to play it straight. I want people to understand that I'm doing it on both sides. But then, I mean, a guy has two sacks. He has a fumble recovery, and you're trying to sit there and give him the credit that you would give anybody else who makes these types of plays. But you also know that everybody's watching and waiting,

trying to make it seem like you're biased. So I'll say my partner, Ian, does a phenomenal job. He kind of takes over on the T.J. plays, and he makes sure that they get the hype and the promotion that they need. And then I just kind of come in and fill in with some analysis. But it's definitely interesting, especially on his second sack of the day. You're like, all right, this guy's defensive player of the year. He's got to give him some credit.

I got to give him some love. But not too much. Not too much. People have been really understanding. They've been really good about it. Fans from the Jets in week one and fans from the Patriots this past week have all sent me some great messages saying that they thought I did a good job. I know that there's one fourth down holding call that they didn't love that I pointed

it out, but it was a fourth and one point in the game. That was a crucial point, and he was complaining to the ref. I wanted to make sure everybody saw it. But yeah, it's a fun challenge, but there's no doubt that it's something you have to be conscious of. Go ahead, AJ. Jay Jha, first off, who cares? It's your brother.

You can pump your brother up all you want, especially when he plays well. I think people should be able to understand that. But quick pivot, New York Giants Jackson Dart, young quarterback. I want to know your thoughts on what you would do when you're facing the young rookie QB obviously hit them, you know, try to get them off the spot, all of that stuff. And is there any guys, any young guys you remember playing against where you could kind of, maybe you were surprised at how well they handled it or maybe you were surprised at how well they didn't handle it when you faced them when they were young?

I mean, I think the biggest thing with the young quarterback is you just try and mix things up early on, Try and give them as much stuff to think about because you know all the stuff that's already going on in their head. So, I mean, just different looks from a defensive standpoint, whether it's stunts, whether it's some shifts at the line of scrimmage. You know, I mean, as we all know here who have played, the first thing you have to worry about as a player is your own job. So he's going up there and he's trying to make sure he knows what he's supposed to do. Then he's trying to get everybody else on the offense set, whether he's got shifts in motions, whether he's changing the cadence, all those things. And then when he gets to the line, he's got to worry about the defense. What do they show him he?

Now, if somebody tosses out, it'll look like Brian Flores is tossing out. There's going to be, like, that's things that next, next level quarterbacks are having a tough time figuring out. Now you can get his head spinning. But there's also young guys who are incredibly talented and incredibly smart who walk up to that line with composure, with cool, calm, collected, and they just wheel and deal. And that's when you really get confidence in your team is when a guy, walks up there in the face of all of that and still delivers and he's got a chance to do that but i don't love like i don't love in general when these teams drafts quarterback say they're going to you know sit him behind a guy and let him play and then all of a sudden we throw him into the fire and

you're like okay well we so we're going to let him sit or we're not going to let him sit and does that amount of time count and then obviously you got rus who two weeks ago has 450 passing yards and then last week has the four down series he had in the red zone it's the NFL's a roller coaster of a man it is crazy it is the greatest and jackson darts getting a pop every time he's showing on the screen then he's getting like a two-yard gain and then russell wison's getting booed and then he throws it off the upright the end of the game and it's just like it becomes a storm of like abandoned plan we don't care what the plan was let's see what this guy is but i think what you're saying is if you're gonna end up putting him in anyways or put him in early shouldn't we

have a full training camp with him being the guy like at least have a full operation to see what he can get dropping him in the middle of the season would be a fascinating like because not only game-wise practice what's it like for him as the starter team meetings what's it like as him as the starter offensive meetings what's it like as him as starter in the locker room what's all those things are brand new to him and if you're going to go in week four i think is what your take was why don't we just do the first three and your point your point is perfect like this whole time we kind of been playing this like is he going to play is he not should we give him some reps in training camp with the ones should we not and if if you're going

to toss him out there in week four like you said he could have had a full training camp and four weeks with the ones to work. And now, maybe is he getting some reps during the ones already this year? Sure, but, I mean, then you're also not committed to your number one guy. I highly doubt he was getting too many reps with the ones the last four weeks. So it is. It's just, I'm either throw your guy out there and say we're going to roll with the curves and we're going to figure it out as we go and he's going to have some ups and downs or do what you say you're going to do and let him sit. But you know how it is. Jobs get on the line and everything changes. Yeah, and you're saying also, I think, empower Russell Wilson.

he's going to be your guy like if you're if you're going to do that empower russell wilson because i think what connor wanted to bring up is it wasn't too long ago where we were sitting in a suite watching him against the dallas cowboys throw for his best number ever and then that's what day ball was thinking of day ball is like we'll get russell wilson in here he'll start for a certain amount time then there'll be a right time to hand it off is there ever going to be a right time i don't know no i legitimately don't know especially not with that schedule yeah or with your job on the line yeah if you win though are you going to want to hand it off you know that goes back to the fits to a situation where it fits like kind of

won over the locker room but the plan was we're going to hand it off and then Fitz comes out and says I wasn't I wanted to play this is my team I thought you know and it's like well that's not a good start for two of us starting this entire thing the leader of the team is now pissed about how it all went down so the rookie quarterback wait

and then we'll put them in thing the more I think about it's like Peyton's were what 28 interceptions this first year if that would have happened nowadays might get cut yeah I'm doing the falcons I'm doing the falcons game this week and Pennix had a very rough game this last week and now he gets pulled in the fourth quarter which the game was gone anyway it's not like they're replacing him but now you have

those questions pop up this week and you're like are we letting anybody develop are we letting anybody make mistakes are we letting anybody grow and come into their own like it's such a week to week world short leash is everywhere now you brought up a name there about a defense for a young guy Brian Flores dbut has a question for you yeah you reposted me and you both reposted the same video of this Brian Flores pre-snap disguised, and this is just one example of some of the shit that these young quarterbacks have to deal with

when you talk about developing and coming in, you're covering, you're calling the game with two young quarterback playing if Daniels is able to play. What's your biggest thing? What do you think the biggest hurdle is for these young quarterbacks getting up to this level and playing on the highway? And what is all this so we can just see? Because it looks

like there's a lot of movement happening there before the ball is snapped. Yeah, D. Butt. I'd love to have a conversation with you about this because to me, this is literally next to next level of that NFL defensive coordination, but not only from the coordinator standpoint, from the player's standpoint. So it's one thing to sit in a meeting room and to be like, man, how crazy would it be if we went from an all-out blitz look, back to a single high look, back to it? Like, you can draw that up and that's great, but then you put it into a meeting and your guys

are like, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. So you want us to show this and then go to this. And then you go to the practice field and they try and do it. crazy. And like I said, you got some young guys or you have a guy who doesn't know what's going on, and he can screw the whole thing up. So for Brian Flores to install it and for these players to execute it is beyond impressive. And I know that a lot of people are giving a ton of credit to Harrison Smith, rightfully so, because he kind of quarterbacks that whole thing. But DeBut, how hard is this from a DB stamp? This is like 300 level shit. I don't think I've ever seen this extensive of a disguise.

And like you said, everybody has to be on the same page. So not only Harrison, you got to have multiple smart players on every level. You talked about Brian Flores, being able to communicate something like this because everything is it, you got to know the play caller, you got to know how they operate as far as the play clockwise,

like when do they like to snap the ball because you show the first look, you show the first coverage. Typically it's only like safeties, maybe some dbs. Sometimes you'll get the D-line shift, but for everybody on every level to be moving on the same accord,

like it's unbelievable. I don't think I've ever seen it to this level be executed everyone has to have trust the timing and then it's just pre-snap so now post-snap everybody's got to run around and fly around too this is some different shit and then on top

of all that you got a pass thrusher who just makes a nasty spin move at the top of the screen and gets in and the disguise sure helped but maybe that guy was just going to get there anyway like it's just a mind fuck on every level and then on the offensive side Kevin O'Connell's calling place and it seems like they're going to work out

you know feels like they got something special out there in Minnesota This may be, like KOC mentioned it yesterday when he was on the show, how he goes into the meeting room with B-Flow to kind of talk over to different plans. I don't know if they cross paths with McVeigh as far as KOC and Zach Taylor. But a lot of these people, AQ, you know, like coming from the same trees, same, okay, we start this, we'll move to getting to, you know, the 8 and 12 area because we go over, you know, how do quarterbacks operate with the play clock, when they're shifting, when they're motioning.

So having that tandem when you're dealing with an offensive head. coach that goes in and sits in on these meetings comment talked about with bellichick and tom brady as far as developing him as a young quarterback like all this shit ties in so when you're watching a play happen it's just so much more that goes into you know these situation these plays been executed you got to have i mean back to jj's point about how brian flores is obviously coaching it but you got to have like very smart players this like the new england patriots defense where they had like four different game plans every single game with that type of stuff are we looking at a historic defense over there in minnesota is that what we're saying right and then and cleveland

Faggs a couple of years ago when they went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, he said all 11 guys. Yeah, Spag said whenever the Chief's defense was leading them to... When they beat, I believe it was the Eagles the first time, I want to say. Yeah, and he said usually you have like two guys, maybe hopefully three guys that are kind of like coaches on the field. He said all 11 guys are like coaches on the field. Rear. You can do a lot of things.

And that Cleveland Brown's defense is same, right? They're incredible across the board. From front line to linebackers to D. Yeah, but everybody on the same page is such a big deal. This early in a season. Chargers, too. Jackson Dart, we got to play. That Jesse Menor defense, those boys are on the stream.

And same with Lou Ann Arumbo's defense. On that note, Todd has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, Jage, I mean, honestly, what the hell's going on with the Texans? You know, he hate to be going into week four and already kind of writing off a team, but some of the stats are coming out. Hey, how could you not? Listen, some of the stats are coming out with C.J. Stroud, and they're not exactly

they're not exactly great you know comparing him to is this guy basically just Anthony Richardson and I didn't put that out I didn't put that out I'm saying that's out there that's out there so you know sure do those people have a narrative maybe but sounds like you were trying to push that narrative

not at all because I love CJ's a big 10 guy he's a big 10 guy don't let your voice go high don't don't let your voice go high that's him telling the truth yeah say it with your check he's a big 10 God, dude! RIP. So I'm just curious, where are we at right now with the Texans? Because their offense, I mean, it does. It doesn't look like anything we've seen during the C.J. Stroud era. Brother. No, it was, obviously, the first two weeks, I mean, you got the Rams and you got the

bucks, and they go down, and they're very tight, very close games against first in their division teams. So those are very tough losses, but they're losses that you can look at and like yeah those are two very good teams when we played right down to the wire when i got out of the booth this week when i was done calling the steelers pats and i checked my phone and i see that the texans lost to the jaguars that's one where you're like oh okay this this is not this is not what is normally happening because you kind of after the first two weeks are like all right we're going to figure it out and get on track and clearly didn't get on track this week the offense is struggling haven't gotten it going so there has to be some form of improvement shown there and

what I'm seeing, what I'm reading. It sounds like the play action game isn't quite there, and it just hasn't developed this offensive scheme that they've wanted to develop this offseason when they brought in Cayley hasn't quite hit the ground running the way that everybody expected it to from everything we've heard all offseason. All right, well, on that note,

there's another team that's playing better ball than's ever played before. Harder start than Peyton Manning, Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis. And then whenever you think about the defense, Lou Ann Ruma, they're balling all over the place. Jay, it's just, you know, it's not fun when the rabbit has the gun here, huh? Remember, you had a couple years there.

We had a little bit of fun. Remember you guys? Easy. The years aren't over. It's three here. Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. Who's the last team that was 0 and 3 to start that went to the playoffs?

Us, I believe. Yeah, who was on that team? I know we did it. Hey, JJ Watt ain't walking through that door. C.J. Will Anderson is? Or is he? or has he been?

Will Anderson's in that door. The Neil Hunter's in that door. And they're all in three. I know. Daniel Hunter's a dog, too. Same with Will Anderson. What's going on up in Indianapolis? Like what?

I obviously, I'm not able to watch these games closely. Every week I feel like I'm asking the same question. We're great at football. What is going on up there? Just you haven't been able to watch the game in its entirety. I hope you get a chance sometime to call a Colts game and you have to hear research. Danny Dimes knows everything that everybody on the field is doing. Everybody on the defense, he knows exactly what you.

you're doing. Broncos blitz them 76% of the time had 114 point something QBR against the blitz knew everything that was happening at all times knows exactly where to go with the ball and oh yeah where's he going we got weapons all over the place Tyler Warren he's your size he's he's might be bigger he's probably bigger than you I think he's better at him yeah there's no way he could put those pants on to begin with little unblowing him out you know up there in that that little thing on his forehead that's like that looks like Dallas Park out around type thing. Dave man type of shit. Yeah, he looks like a Bigfoot, a Sasquatch, if you will.

He wouldn't be able to put on Whitworth's jersey and get under that squat rack, not Tyler Ward. No, that thing would have been busting at the seams like your pants were if he was put that on. He's unbelievable and he's always open. Jonathan Taylor just had three touchdowns. We like that a lot. Michael Pittman rolling.

Josh Downs hasn't even really got started cooking yet. He will at some point. It's like we have... 18 has like 340 yards rushing, doesn't he's crushing it? Yes, we are. And Danny Dimes. I've been the best quarterback full time. No turnovers.

It's unbelievable. No turnovers, one punt. It's been so much fun. That's crazy. It's been so much fun. Like Danny Dimes, though, commanding the shit is just like very evident. You're talking about full control. We're doing this.

We're checking to this. He's sliding in the pocket so comfortably. Could leave, doesn't. Find somebody makes a big throw. All right, so let's spin this thing all the way back then to the beginning of this conversation we just had. The New York Giants. They have a rookie quarterback.

They had Daniel Jones for a little. long time. Now they're switching from Russell Wilson to, is this a situation where Daniel Jones was always this good? He just needed the time to develop. I mean, he did have a lot of time there. Like, it's not to act like he didn't have a lot of. The offense line, quite Nelson's on vocal. Yeah, I need an

old line. Never had an old line in New York. Like, even the guys, like, it might to your point, JJ, like it might not even be New York's fault. Like, just some of the guys they drafted, some of the free agents they picked up, like, they just didn't work out. Like, I remember when Nate Soldier went to the Giants after New England

and he was supposed to be, you know, their left tackle dominant for years, and it just didn't work out. And then Evan Neal, you know, Bruce can attest. He's playing guard now, and he was supposed to be their guy. I think Andrew Thomas, when he was their first round pick, and to play left tackle, I think he got hurt his rookie year when Dan Jones was still. Now, on that note, I think everything that Danny Davis went through was big for his development to get him here. You know, I don't know what he's always been like.

Obviously, I think he's always been super humble and probably a little bit not loving of the spotlight and everything like that. we get dropped into New York, but going through all that has to either kill you or make him much stronger, you know, one or the other. I think it's just the uniforms look so much like Duke. It's just natural. Like, he's just like, oh, I'm back, I'm back in it. It's great.

Who was his coach? Who is his coach? David Cutcliffe. Who did he coach pretty personally? I believe Peyton Manning. Oh, is that right? And what is he doing now? He's starting better than Pete Manning?

Wow. Go ahead and start building a statue. Danny Dime's going to be right. right next to Peyton, and then he might as well got Cutcliffe right up there with his clipboard, maybe a little bit of like a pup tier type thing. He's on a one-year deal there? I think it's two years, but he's certainly going to be looking to renegotiate after this one, if everything goes the way it goes.

He's making $14.5 million, $14.5 million right now. We are incredibly thankful and lucky that everybody said he was assed at football, including our own fans that did the athletics poll. They said that we had no chance. And Deboe was a part of that And AQ Shipley was as well Say sorry And so were you, JJ

And I think A.J. Hawk was as well. So everybody that's kind of In front of a microphone right now Can say that they were a part of This guy's ass The Colts stink. We're doing a full rebuild. There was one of us up here. I didn't believe

I got throw Bruce under the bus to you He didn't believe you. Oh, I can't get away from this guy. That's not true. We have always believed. I knew he'd win the job the second he got here. That was a fact Unfortunately he is on a one-year deal, though

I would Well, that was our big thing Like they have the team So if Danny Dimes comes in and plays The way Danny Dimes has played They're going to be Unbelievable and they have No, no, we didn't want him to play the way

I thought he was on a one-year deal So he's on a one-year deal Today, right now What kind of contract Did you resign him to today? Whatever he wants 50 million 55 a year

Whatever day he does Five year 70 per Whatever he wants You've got to think about the whole culture of the entire building before and after he becomes our quarterback. And I know it's a lot of other positions and a lot of other people that obviously can change that. But like, just so many.

You're telling me this one guy switched the whole building? Because last year, I mean, you talked about culture. You were on the culture of that building. And I was right. And I was right. And so he's the only one to change. He changed the old. Can't bind him.

Quentin Nelson comes in. Quentin Nelson becomes like vocal leader. you know and he becomes good vocal leader Michael Pittman I think feels even more empowered Jonathan Taylor's playing his best ball that he's I mean there is it feels like there's just a maybe a belief in

what's going on belief a belief in a chance to win yes I think that is what it is that changes everything like when you're losing it's like I mean it's miserable to go to work it's miserable to show up at the building when you know hey listen we're going to be 5 and 15 and you know the first oh whatever it is 20 games

preseason as well brother We can't even win a briefing out here, man. You get what I'm saying. But it's like that the belief that you have when you know you have a guy back there that gives you a chance to win is everything. Yeah. It's everything. If you don't have one, it's a nightmare for all parties. Coaches, players, everybody knows it.

And maybe that is why he sleep through a treatment back-to-back days. Sure. Maybe that is why you show up late to a team meeting, you know? That's what's good about Indy, you know? Like, it's terrible not to have a quarterback. it's even worse to have a quarterback that makes like $150 million and you know he's never going to win a Super Bowl. That's probably the worst.

What are you talking about? I think Dodd's going to win Super Bowl. I'm not talking about Danny Dives. Danny Dimes ain't getting paid $150 million. I just think there's a couple guys out there. Maybe. He's 28 years old. He might get paid and I'm not talking about two either

Gumpf, but there are definitely other guys out there. Definitely that maybe we just talked to very recently in the last few days, not publicly. And he wasn't the exact player. Maybe it was a coach. and we just find out things about players. I think having a situation like Indy, like even Pittsburgh,

even the Giants, isn't as bad as, hey, we just signed a guy to a five-year, $250 million contract, and he probably won't get the job done. And that sucks. You're talking about whenever the next four years are just, we know we ain't got it. Kind of like what happened with Danny Dimes the first time,

where it was like, hey, we're going to pay Danny Dimes instead of Sequin. And, you know, Giants fans kind of all agreed. You know, Danny Dimes goes kind of as Sequan goes. It's like hand in hand. Whereas like sometimes teams will win 10 games and they'll have a flash and they'll have a good season. Maybe they'll win a playoff game. And then you kind of have to pay that guy no matter what because he's proved it. But in the end, when you lay your head down at night, you know you can't win a Super Bowl with that guy.

Well, I hope that everybody that is at a starting quarterback for the team that you're pulling for can win a Super Bowl for. Absolutely. With that being said, day and dimes can. And I'm excited that that's the case. I don't even think he knows he's playing good right now. I don't even know if day and dimes knows that. I hope it not. I think he has no idea.

Good. Keep it that way. Every time I talk to him, it's just, yeah, okay, yeah, having a good time. Everybody's playing really good. It's fucking right. You haven't done shit. Yeah. Let's move along to the next one.

And it's like, I think his shins have taken such a beating that he's, like, ready for it. Indianapolis is the perfect place for him. Yes. It genuinely is. I think it's no one or being on the side. sidelines. I think just everybody's on their peas and cues. Everybody's dialed. Diled. You're talking about Carly?

Yeah, Carly's down there trying to learn as much as possible. Obviously, you're not going to be out of line, especially when one of the big three can hear everything that's happening down there, but she's trying to learn all the ins and outs of the program. They also just built a playground yesterday downtown Indianapolis. Oh, no. Yeah. Indianapolis, yeah. The big three are giving right now, and the big three are winning.

They're undefeated. Yeah. The big three are undefeated. They might never lose again. Have you ever put on those headphones? Have you ever AJ, have you ever listen to the offensive play calls and everything? Even for like me, somebody who played 12 years, like in preseason I'd put on those headphones, listen to the calls

and I'll get a lot of information from them, but like, there's time where I'm lost what they're talking about on offense. Yeah, and you get to hear him freak out. It's funny, it's fun to listen and hear the guys in the booth freaking out that if you talk to them later and there when you mention it to them, like, oh, you were on there? What were you doing on

the headset at that time? Yeah, they can you can get testy on those headphones for sure I wonder. They talk a lot of shit. Oh yeah, they kill every player. They're killing all of us. That would be the tough part if I was a coach. Imagine BA on the headset. Yeah, I'm some saying. If you're a coach... What the fuck is he doing? Get him the

fuck out of there! Then he's got to click over to... He said it was Ben Rothsberger. He was yelling on a different line he thought about Ben Rothersberger being just trash. And then he clicks over he thought, and Ben could hear everything he was saying.

Ben's looking at him Because he thought he was able to just All right Ben you're doing a great job Like Ben heard the entirety I guess The nail it and then the All right Ben you're doing a great job He's like you were on the same I heard that whole thing

Oh no that's not great I wonder if they are tighter up tightened up down there though You know they say like hard knocks Makes everybody act right Because you're kind of being watched You know if you're in a bathroom There's more people in there

They say you're more likely to wash your hands If other people in there watching you than if you're not if you're in there alone you walk out so maybe carly on the headset is making everybody act their absolute best i would hope not i hope those guys are exactly the same way they are whether she's on that headset or not and you're so you're saying people in there people not in there i'm not washing my hands that's exactly what i mean we saw he's not we knew that i mean we knew what that answer was all of us right yeah yeah there was no question about it you should see these new ones you just put your hand out there and it just

shoots out soap all by itself. And then the air is actually on this side. He just put your hand over here and it's just blow an air out of the wall. It's crazy. You should try it sometime. Washing your hands. All right. And down at the Texans, Jade, you're not dead on them? You don't think they're completely out? No, no.

I'm definitely not dead on it. Yeah, who are they playing this weekend? Titans. You're out on them. They're laying seven against Tennessee. You don't even know. I have it. Oh, yeah.

Tennessee. Tennessee's going to do some stuff. Tennessee's going to do some stuff. Sorry, you guys. I think you guys are going through. You just cut C.J. G.J. in the middle of nowhere. What's that all about? What is that about?

Yeah. No, I will actually give Tennessee Jeffrey Simmons playing phenomenal football. Despite a tough start here, Jeffrey Simmons, phenomenal football player. Just pivoted away from C.J.G. Coach Callahan is starting to figure it out, too. It seems like in the press conferences,

he's getting more and more comfortable. Yeah. Just more and more at ease. Doesn't he? Yeah. God, that guy, it might. be good for me to not have that job anymore. You know? Yeah.

Seems like a great guy. The head coach. Well, I guess Colin plays is something that's going to change. Just the whole thing. It doesn't look like it's good for him. Have you seen the guy have an enjoyable moment? No, absolutely. He hates his life. Not one happy.

He's in Nashville. He took the first step, Pat. He took the first step. First off, you relinquish the play calling duties. And then when that doesn't go well, you get the play calling duties back. And when the NAC goes, doesn't go well, then you eventually get fired. Bo Harrigree will be taken over to play calls. And obviously, if it continues to go the way it's going,

Bo Hargre will be fired. Exactly, which is why I kind of love this move. And I like to say, Callahan. They just jumped the O coordinator, though. That was the interesting part to me, is the play calling duties did not go to the O coordinator. They went past him. That's a very...

He likes that guy. He's a little closer relationship. That guy's a dip shit. He's not called place. And Callahan's like, I agree. I can't wait to fire up. He, we need him to, Nashville's great. Yeah.

He might be a college coach. I think he might freaking soar at like a UAB. Maybe UAB. Yeah, like I think he might. I call him for Trey Dilfer's job. My Lord. Hey, shoot, I think Dilfer's more bored for, you know, the Florida or of VAT. I think Brian Callahan, he starts at UAB, learns a thing or two

about respect for people. people, he might fall high. Hey, um, hey, Jay, why don't you hire Kyle Han to coach Espanior, maybe to Burnley boys after that Carroll City loss? I think that'd be good. He'll bring in some intense, sorry, Cardiff City. You get it. They come in there and, uh, he'll get the boys fired up and intense. Maybe he's a great guy. We had meetings with him two weeks ago. He's a great guy. He's a great. He's a great guy. It's just they're not playing good football right now. He's miserable, huh? Everything. He said a good guy, just absolutely miserable.

He seemed great. I mean, the meetings, he was great. He was positive. Obviously, saying all the right stuff, it's just, they're just not playing the ball. Like what? Because seriously, I haven't seen one clip of this guy talking where I'm like, good guy. Whoa, geez. Not in the sense of like, I know, like, not in the sense of like good and evil. Sorry, not in the sense of like good and evil, like good guy, more so in the sense of like, nope, that sucks every single time I see something to him.

It is a lot of that. The coolest thing he's done, honestly, is when Will Levis came off the field and when he like rolled the ball to the other team and Brian Kelly. like, what the fuck are you doing? That was awesome. That was awesome. Also, he had a good promo about Cam Ward talking shit to the defense while calling a play. They gave him back. He was mind-blown by and he said.

I couldn't do that. I don't know how he does that. That's basically what he said. I mean, in the Paul Quartz, he thing, I think, is what really got me. He just writh Paul Coors. What is what he said? I don't know what I mean. No, that's what I didn't even know.

If you were making a joke, I thought you were just telling the story. No. Exactly what he said. That's exactly. It needs to work. win a game. He needs to win a game. It's tough to be happy when you're losing. I agree. You have to be bad. That was a part of why, like, it

was, for me, retiring from punting felt like easy move because we were losing games. I had to be miserable. And it actually was miserable because, boy, it'd be much better if we won. Like, everything would be better if we won. And it's like as a punter, I have no saying that fourth quarter. We're down. All right,

boys, let's go, man. I need to have a good. Let's have a happy week this week. Let's say this is all worth it. And then the ball just bounces the wrong way. We lose. And all of a said he got to be miserable. Okay, it's like, all right, that's certainly something. This is Callahan, though, every time he's in front of a microphone, literally. This is him right here.

Yeah, I have zero disappointment in my play calling. I mean, I don't have any disappointment in that at all. We're fucking O and three, but it's not my fucking fault. In my play? We appreciate Callahan. I think your point right there is such a good point that people, like, when they always ask, like, do you miss the game or, like, how's retirement and everything? I don't think people understand how miserable every single week after a loss is

and how just by proxy of being retired and not having that experience. Like, yes, the good days are always better, but those weeks, it is a full seven days of misery. I couldn't even imagine you, such a focal point of wins and losses, having to feel that shoulder that. You as well, age, that's a crazy thing to think about. And I'm happy I didn't have to do that. I just, by proxy, had to be pissed because life isn't as good whenever we're not winning, boys, okay? If everybody could kind of do their shit, we'd be great. Let's go ahead and do it.

Let's maybe protect our quarterback. Let's think about doing that. Okay, Sky, really good at football. Let's maybe, I don't know what, I don't know who I need to talk to here. I don't know who the person is. Let me tell you what I'm seeing. Guys, let me tell you what I'm seeing from the sidelines over here. Be good.

If we could maybe catch those balls, that'd be great. And these routes, I don't know, you're seemingly not as, open as everybody else is. Need those to go a little bit better. I don't know how we get that. Defense, we're a wrap up. Okay, we got a lot of this happen. We need to start wrapping up. Boys, life is much better whenever we're

all, mostly you guys doing your shit. So if we could do our shit, that'd be great. All internal thoughts. Never say them out loud? That's right. What you say out loud is actually, let's go boys. Go, boys. Team game. Team game. I'm riding. I'm riding. Inside, though, it's a lot of...

This guy is fucking terrible. Why is this guy. Why is this guy on the fucking team? What do we? I can't say that, though. That guy's much tougher than me. That guy's job much harder than mine. That guy much more important than me. So what I got to do is, hey, let's, hey, next week, bro. Come on, man. I need you. We need you.

Oh, somebody. I saw somebody's brother did that this week. Somebody's brother, like, posts on social media that a player on their team sucked. And it was just like, dude, you just put him in the worst spot of all time in the locker. Walking in there. That's like when Odell's dad was putting together highlights of

Baker Mayfield. Yeah. All right, O'Donnell, go in there. Go see him. Baker's not even looking at him. Why isn't he looking at? I mean, I'm putting out three highlights a week of this guy being asked, but why isn't he looking at my boy?

It's like, man. Just getting your eggs in the morning. Just, oh, yep, good morning. Sorry, my dad, sorry. Can you send your dad different plays? Like, I threw you the ball a couple times. Can you do that? My dad's crazy, you know.

Just walk away. I don't know how you get through that. And then they get rid of a guy, and now he maybe leads his team to out. Really good. Jage, you've been pitching a perfect game in that booth. We appreciate you doing that. Congrats to your Espanio team doing what they do.

And your Burnley team. Come on, lads. Carroll City's the tough side. We got, all right, all right. Let's give Cardiff their credit. Cardiff, Cardiff. We got Man City on Saturday. That'll go well.

You know what? I am so sick and tired of your ass. Oh, fight them. You fight them? Please. Go on, Gage. No, I'll back down because every week your hair has

gotten significantly better and it looks fantastic. I like what we're doing. I will give you. Nice. That's positive. I'll give you those props. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's First Ball Hall of Famer. I'll return it. You know, I thought you're

top five booth. I muted it five minutes in, but I've heard people love you, brother. How about that? Look at this. That's fucking great. Five minutes. That's a long time. Five minutes, a long time. thing I've said to do someone in a long time and he said it was mean, so I'm done with

compliments. That's the last compliment I ever give. No, it's like when Fatsos eat salad for the first time and they have to poop and they go, well, that's what my body's saying, not to eat it. Don't stay out of my car like. Just because he is doesn't mean we have to call him that name. No, I was talking about another story. He's going to Faso, geez.

You did. You did. You did. You did. I don't live in the gym. And guess what? In here, you literally live in a gym. You literally live in a gym. You literally live in a gym. It was going to be so funny. You literally live in a gym. That's a gym.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wong. Hey, Dave! Good positive experience for Jage. You were going to have such a good one there. There's about six that I've had on my tongue today that just haven't made its way out. That's going to happen. I love, Judge.

I tell you what, though, it's tough. Jage talks about being happy and, you know, being sad. It's like when his Burnley team loses the Carroll City. I know. And then you got Espaniel doing his thing. It's like, how do you kind of? conflict. What's the Cardiff? Is it not Carroll City? Why does it keep saying Cardiff? Who fucking cares? Oh, it's part of City. It's part of City.

Cardiff City, legendary club. They've fallen on hard times. They go by Carroll City as well. I don't think we're pulling for Cardiff City. I apologize to the wrong name, but I like the big win after Burnley. Who knows what they're going to go do now? Maybe get up to Division 2 and then 1A and then 1 up there. We'll continue for some reason. We appreciate you all. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change your life. Goodbye. That felt like a good, JJ Watt.

Good J-J-Walk. Yeah. Just sat in the pocket there. No Burnley shirt on, didn't want to bring attention. Had the Espanio had on USA Olympics. They'll talk about this. Yeah. They'll talk about USA.

Good fit. Talk about Espaniel. Couldn't help but had to bring up Burnley. We've been following that team closer to anybody. Yeah. I think, Gage. Where are they in the season? Like, how many more games do they have?

No, on that note, we're covering them closer to anybody. We don't know. Two or three, I think, right? How many games into the season are? Because we saw the Caribbo Cup. Yeah, the Caraba. Yeah. They're about five in.

And what's the caraba? Cup, it's just the English teams, a bunch of divisions. I'm scared a lot of America and I wouldn't want to enter Miami or Portland Timbers rolling around over there too. Because if you want to care about soccer, you don't have the Carabelle Cup I'll tell you what, I don't know if Portland Timbers are coming out alive against Cardiff City.

Portland Timbers? Yeah. You think Cardiff City could withstand the Pacific Northwest? Cardiff City went into Turf Moore and took them down. That's the problem with Carter City is that if the Portland Timbers went over to England and beat a team like Cardiff City, that city would burn down and they'd murder

everyone on the team because they lost to an MLS team. So they actually, I think for safety purposes, cannot let an MLS team. A hot Portland Timbers thing. Yeah, just, and respectively, I get it because I mean, they'd probably beat the fuck out of Burnley. Oh.

The timbers this year, don't they have the guy? It'll be a cagey affair for sure. Yeah. Maybe for Burnley. I mean, we're talking about the timbers. What about the Seattle Sounders? I forgot about that Pacific Northwest finest. Exactly. Exactly. And then that

team down there in Atlanta. They're so good. They're united around. And then up there in New England, they used to have a team. They sold that team, right? Well, they actually won't let the New England Revolution play there because they're scared we might take their country again. Oh, you're talking about in England? Yeah. That's crazy. Is New England Revolution still a team?

They absolutely stink. So does Atlanta this season. Fuck, man! They're both near the bottom of the table. Not this is the year! We're at the bottom of the table right now? No. No, you're close. Fuck off, dude. That's bull. You're in 11th of 15?

Well, is our guy out? Yeah, I think a lot of your guys are up. If our guy's out, then that changes a lot. And dead last is CF Montreal. That's good. We like that. And second to last, D.C. United. Okay.

D.C. United. White and Rooney's former team? Remember the night? Of course. I was interd doing this year, into my own. Are there fucking 100 teams in the ML? Yeah, this isn't a real thing, right? This is not the list of teams.

I thought there were six teams in the ML. It turns out there's 30. Is there 30 teams? Where are they? 15 in each conference. That's 16 too many. The hottest teams right. The hottest teams right now are L-A-Scee and Vancouver White.

How many are in that arena league that we, the boys come from? How many teams are in there? Eight? I don't know. They just announced a new squad, actually. I don't know where they need to be doing. If there's eight teams in there, they're about six too many. What are we doing?

No, what are you talking about? TST is a good team. tournament filled with a lot of great players. We need the MLS. They're not 30 teams. What are we doing? Who are you playing with? FC Nashville. Remember, they're really good. Yeah. Pittsburgh River Hounds obviously take it over.

Philadelphia very good. And they have the young team. UC Salt Lake. FC Vancouver. So White Cats actually got Thomas Mueller, legendary player from Germany. He's unbelievable. Who's he playing for? He's playing for the Vancouver White Caps. It's insane. They're beating team 7-0.

What? In soccer? Yeah, he's scoring hatties it's insane he's got a gambling problem he's like he's one of the greatest players of all times because why the hell is he still playing soccer in the united states let's get to because he wants to it's on the united states he's playing in canada actually up there in vancouver uh which we obviously knew the mLS had such history in canada we knew that lafc also got sonny from tautum he's like in his prime he's scoring every game as well the game is growing the fuck are these guys doing over here They're playing soccer.

Hey, boys. Go back home. It's not fun here. What do you mean? It's not fun. It's very fun. L.A.FC, they take on L.A. Galaxy. They have the L.A.

Trophical. There it is. El Traffico is always a banger. It's great. Always delivers. We don't have to do this. Okay? It's September 24th.

It's not freaking May 24th. What the fuck? All right. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side. Lane Kiffin will be joining us from all this. Need to get rid of at least. 24 of those teams.

Come on, guys. Assume there was only like... I assume there was six or eight maybe. What's that, AJ? I assume there's like six, maybe 18. I think we all thought that. Then we saw the table and we're like, that's a big table.

What the hell? Massive league. Every team that you've ever heard of having a team still has it. Like, there's been no moving. There's been no moving on. There's only been adding. MLS up and to the right. More teams.

More players. More explosivity. Bro the game. MLS soccer. We did soccer. We did baseball. We did soccer. WMBA's got to playoffs.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. A couple going down to the wire. Aces fever. If this goes in, Kelsey Mitchell's about to win MVP. Okay. Well, vinyl's MVP? Yeah.

Okay. There's already been an MVP. Yeah. Asia Wilson. And we're very happy for her to win that again. Four times. She's a great player. Four time.

This is for Kelsey. Mitchell Way MVP of WMBA Finals. Okay. She's been leading the fever. Needs. A lot of injuries to the fever. Stephanie White's got him flying around. They should give her an extension. Big one. Now. How's the deal good? They were negotiating a deal and then we didn't

hear anything. It's quiet. Maybe it's good. Yep. Oh. Calcium says, sorry. The team will take the award. Okay. Good. That's how unified they are.

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He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, Erotic Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the father of 10, former president of Ohio. A.J. Hawkerayette. The toxic table is here at Boss Conor and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here looking incredibly cool. A good fit today. Yeah.

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Yeah. You look fake. I've lost a little weight. You've been getting after it again? I heard there was a little conversation off air. off air about what you used to do to get in shape. AJ, you remember whenever he used to go into basements and fight rich dudes? You remember when that was happening? Yeah, so he used to grapple in you know, in small amounts of clothing in the basement with some billionaires. Yeah, definitely

shirtless, I think, was the thing. And then what I wore that as Speedo, one of the first texts I got was from him, he goes, you should do jiu-jitsu rolling in a basement one of those. So we learn a little bit more about it all. You do look good. The man who's about to join us is an absolute icon in the football world. And tonight at 7 p.m., a documentary about him and his journey in his football life will debut. Here's a minute 39 of what you're about to witness. This might be the greatest sports documentary of all time. I saw something somebody sent me the other day. Someone was doing a story and they're like, Lane Kiff would be the most intriguing person to actually know the real stories of all the stops and all the interactions of what really happened.

I was like, that's probably true. Yeah, that's why we call. you wanted to do this. Yeah, see. Have you examined why drama and turmoil is often around you? I think there's things in life that you do that you actually are really trying to go above and beyond to do the right thing and it just doesn't work.

Singing Rocky Top all night long after we beat Florida next year. It's gonna be a blast, okay, so get ready. Then there's things that you do that you make mistakes. I call them self-inflicted wounds. Lane, out of respect to Tennessee fans of you answer, it's free questions for us. When you hire a snake, don't be surprised if you get bitten. There is just a perfect storm becoming this villain.

He proved that he could lie out of both sides of his mouth. There's no arguments. Those are called ass-chewinges. The fucking Kiffin. Lane Kiffin, the youngest NFL head coach since the merger. I didn't hire the person I thought I was hiring. Wayne Kiffin is the Miley Cyrus of college football. He has very little talent, but we simply can't keep our eyes off of him.

When people don't want to like you, does that bother you? It didn't used to bother me. As I've gotten older now, I just would like to change that narrative. So how do you do that? Three, two, and one. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a former Fresno State quarterback, and a guy that we're about to learn a lot about tonight. Three-time national champion,

now the head coach at Ole Miss, ladies of gentlemen, Lane Kiff. Yeah, Lange! How are you, coach? Awesome. Thanks for having you, Pat. Hey, sorry what made you wait there a little bit. Boys had to dump during a break, and then obviously we got a chance to run

one of the greatest trailers I've seen for a documentary in a long time, which leads me to ask this. How was it emotional going back through all of it? And how long have you guys been shooting this for a release? It feels like it's very in-depth. Yeah, they did it. summer with me just you know over a day or two and then i think they went to other people after that so i've never i've actually not seen it so that trailer is the only thing i've seen like you've

seen so um it is kind of really unique to see that and you see your kind of life play out because you've been through so many things and um so uh should be interesting you know reliving it all is interesting you know like uh i've talked to a couple people that should have documentaries and i ask them i'm like are you ever going to do a doc absolutely not why i've already lived it once. I don't want to do it again. That's a whole thing that has to take place. I'm assuming with some of these things, and you admitted there in your interview that you did this summer that they did in a sit down, where it's like I've made some mistakes, self-inflicted wounds through it all. Has that perspective changed you this season? Do you think

you've noticed a change since doing the documentary about yourself? And how has it been trying to become the Lane Kiffin that you want to be basically through it all that you kind of mentioned at the end there about changing the narrative? Yeah, I really didn't know it was going to be that big a deal pat that sounds probably crazy but you know people come in a lot of times and do interviews or podcasts and so i just agreed to it and then kind of realized it was a lot bigger once it started going so you know my my hope is that it helps people it helps people that are struggling or people that are going through things they don't understand why and so i think what it does is it shows a path that goes a bunch of different directions and things that i thought were good that maybe weren't

and things that I thought were horrible that weren't bad either. And so I kind of learned to try to reserve judgment when situations happen of what's good and bad and see what they are later. So I hope it helps people because what I did when I set out four or five years ago on this change was I want to be the best version of myself. I kind of figured my parents didn't have a lot of time left. And so I felt like I owed that to them. And then obviously my children and family and players.

And so I just really worked on how can I be the best. version of myself to give to everybody. And I think that's very different than how I was living, where before I was living about what did everything give to me? And so I think that's really where the change. And still, I got to continue to work on that all the time. I love that. I can't wait for that message. And I'm excited that there's inspiration out there for a lot of us that maybe want to change who we are or be the best version of ourselves, but are scared or maybe self-sabotage. I assume there's a lot of potential those thoughts that you're still battling every single day that you talk about.

Just know that we've all noticed. Your skin looks immaculate. Yes, it does. You have a good glow about you. And it feels like your teams are benefiting from the way that you're going about living your life now, which leads to this weekend. I mean, absolutely huge one this weekend. How do you feel about this year's squad?

And there was an announcement of the starting quarterback, I believe, just moments ago, right? Tone, this just got announced that for the third straight week, you'll have... Trinidad Chamblis and Ferris State quarterback, I believe. that was announced. I'm not 100% sure if you made that decision publicly or not, but how do you feel about this year's team? Well, that's good to know.

That'd be news to me that the starting quarterback's been figured out. Okay, so that is not been announced. I'll go down and tell our staff right here. Okay. The Pat broke it, that Trinidad's our starting quarterback. So, no, we haven't made that decision yet. I do think we have a good team.

We've done some good things, and both those quarterbacks are really, really good players. So it's exciting to have them both. This is a huge challenge for us. I think that this LSU roster defensively is by far the best they've been in a long time. They've done a great job. As Brian Kelly alluded to, they spent a lot of money in the portal in the offseason, and it showed up. I think you're seeing that in college football.

You know, I think numbers have shown, you know, Miami, Texas Tech, and LSU spent the most money in the portal. And look how they're performing. You know, this is a brand new defense at a lot of spots. And they're really talented, really good. That's why they're the third team in the country. Yeah, it's fun to watch Louisiana kind of go. But it's also great to see your team ride every time. We're happy that you guys are back in national prominence,

mostly because we're all fans of you, brother. That's why I'm excited for the documentary to learn even more about you. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, coach, going back, you mentioned, you know, what, four or five years ago, you started working on yourself and being the best you. How was that affected you as a coach, like day to day? I would imagine relationships with players, parents, everything would grow through that. But are you able to enjoy coaching more now?

I feel like we see my coaches are just miserable, miserable, and then I'm relieved when I get a win. Like it seems like a very tough profession. But how has it changed you, I guess, as you've gotten older? Yeah, I think people that come around here have mentioned that, you know, at a sideline report last week, said, you seem like the most relaxed coach right before the game of all the SEC coaches. And I think I've worked on that a lot.

But I think working on myself and being this version of myself has allowed me to just get into a space with myself in relationships with players and coaches and people that I just couldn't access before. If that makes sense. Yes, absolutely. More relatable. Yeah, a little bit more of a human probably here. Yeah. Yeah, not as transactional. Not as, hey, I'll get you to the NFL. Here's the plays that help you win versus, hey, how are you doing in life? Like, how can we help you all around? And so I just think that that has helped and it's not do it help. It's just, it's helped. It's created more genuine relationships. And I don't know that that has to do with winning and losing. I really don't care if it does. I just like living

that way a lot better. Yeah, I'm assuming it's much more fulfilling watching the boys grow the relationships and then seeing them have massive amounts of success. You, obviously, we've seen everything you've done because of the football royalty that you're from. Your dad, we believe we're like, I think 100% sure, 99% sure created like the Tampa too. obviously, in the entirety, whenever you talk about football and what that did to change the trajectory of the sport as a whole, especially defensive football, you obviously on the offensive side. Is that very young, that you're like, I'm going to be a genius on the offensive side? Was there ever a time where there was a thought of maybe I'd continue

the defensive mastermindness of life? And how do you feel about the way you go about running your offense? The number we got is a third of your passes are explosive plays. That number is outrageous. The 33% of your throws are longer than 20 yards down to field. Their completions down the field. So how did we get to this offense and why did you choose offense, I think, with who your dad is, is the questions

that I have? Yeah, I think playing quarterback helped me move that direction, but I've been so fortunate in that because I was raised with my dad, so I learned defense from him, and I was always listening to the problems that teams and schemes gave him.

Then I went to Pete Carroll for six years, an assistant for him. So I got to listen to him. Then I went to Nick Saving. You're talking about three of the greatest defensive minds ever that one I was raised with. The other two, I spent nine years combined with sitting in meetings where they were talking about what gives them problems and just kind of kept all that information and then created this offense and then added the tempo part to it, kind of the Baylor style when Art Bryles came to us at

FAU. And so that's where we are now. And like you said, the explosive plays, I think pays off. I think we led to the country and plus 30-yard plays last year and first again this year. And obviously, that has a lot to do with great players too. Yeah, but, I mean, you're fun to watch, too, sprinting your ass down the sideline. You get excited throwing oops to the boys this past weekend. I mean, we love you guys are an exciting brand of ball, which I think is why we're also pumped at Ole Miss all the way back.

Now, at the quarterback position, there's a lot of questions, especially with an announcement that was just made for the New York Giants. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, Jackson Dart, obviously, he's in a big city right now. he'll be starting his NFL career being a starter this week. But how do you kind of balance? You're at a program where people and quarterback's going to come and try to win a national championship. How do you balance winning on the college level

and developing these quarterbacks for the next level? Yeah, our system really has a lot of NFL elements in it offensively for them. Protections, routes, different runs and stuff. We just happen to go really fast. And I think overtime defensive coordinators have said that. including Coach Saban, that what Ole Miss does, what this system does is it gives you problem plays, but goes really fast also. And so I think that's helped our quarterbacks play really well. It's awesome for Jackson. Sounds like that's an official announcement of a starter.

Hold on. There was another. No, granted, if he ends up starting, I'm going to count it. Yeah, on three was reporting this. So it wasn't us that did this. I just want to let you know. And I have respect for all. Then it's got to be official. It's somewhere on Twitter. so that's not you got it no that's absolutely right yes uh jackson was awesome for you guys watching him run i think he got definitely concussed at one game against florida i think it was if i recall he's tough athletic the boys love him i guess the moxies through the roof feels like we need that as elaine kiff and quarterback is that something you look for uh the personality the type of guys that you have on your team is there moxie confidence levels that you kind of

either attract or look for whenever you're deciding who's going to be on Ole Miss? There is. It doesn't have to be because there's all kinds of different personalities that can be great quarterbacks. I do really enjoy like that relationship with Jackson Dart when you find somebody that really commands the team in the locker room and is enjoyable to be around. And, you know, even though we get older as a coach, man, we still like hanging out with people. And so, you know, you have an alpha male like that that's that's a great guy it comes from an awesome family like it's great to hang out with too you know we go i beat him but you know we go and play pickleball together um you know we've taken trips together so it was a really cool relationship and still is

they actually have a buy and i think they're playing at the saints so maybe i can go see him play but he he's awesome i talk to him every every week you're a pickleball player you're a good pickleball player yeah yeah i i don't know that i'm good i have a really good partner So that helps. Yeah, but so you just hide out? You just serve and then hide out and then the partner's taking all the kitchen work or what? It depends.

Sometimes we play a one-one stack. You know, like if we're down a little bit, I put the great player and then you just play behind, kind of fit off of him, you know, like a safety off of a great linebacker. Where do we play at? Do you guys have like a little spot there at Ole Miss? Are you at a club?

You had a pickleball? Is there pickleball clubs? I guess there probably is at this point of this entire thing. No, in Oxford, Mississippi. No. But we have a court right on campus right here. We just go play with the people. That's part of this whole Mississippi change, you know, like, and really, when I say you don't know what to expect and what the plans are, and I had never thought, man, I'm going to love to live in Oxford, Mississippi.

That's where I want to go. And I would have told you the opposite when I was in L.A. or in South Florida, probably. And now I love it here. And so sometimes you need a place to slow you down. Yeah, the universal will guide you. You know, they'll put you in there, especially if you're going to be doing some Pilates. and I see you stretching that lower back and the downward dog and that look like it's a great time.

You said if it's on Twitter it must be official. We saw something from your Twitter, okay, that we're all taking as official. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I love the stuff on Twitter. I'm really pumped for the over this weekend. Go Rebels all over it.

But one of my favorite parts is actually on Twitter when, you know, you and your shenanigans, if you will, during SEC Media Day. What's your favorite? part about fucking with fine bomb because I love it and it's it's kind of the best content usually out of those media days over those couple weeks what is kind of the the overarching fun for you in it well I enjoy the Paul part you know actually in that preview that you guys

just showed you know Paul says the Miley Cyrus of college football you know like and and he's taking a shot of Miley Cyrus too like that Miley Cyrus isn't good so I still say to him I'm like you know Miley Cyrus still doing pretty good So you're coming, didn't really, like, make a lot of sense. At all. And so, but, you know, now Paul's, like, the expert on everything. And so it's all right. It's kind of, it's enjoyable when I'm on with him, and he just freezes.

And he, like, gets stuck. So I really, I really enjoy that. Plus, he used to be, man, he used to be terrible to Coach Sabin. So I kind of feel like I got to get Coach Sabin's back, too. How do you feel about Coach Sabin, man? I'm getting a chance to work with him. I love him. This guy is unbelievable.

He's unreal. in every setting that I see him. Dinner setting is unreal, production meeting is unreal, talking to the coach, he's unreal, sitting with us, he's unreal, leadership advice on, it's like every setting that I've seen him in, he's like a machine of just like what the perfect thing to do is.

I couldn't imagine coach with him, you know, in that trailer they talk about, those are ash chewings, okay? We ain't, this ain't an argument, this ain't a two-way street here. This is a one-way road. What, obviously you give him a lot of credit you just did there?

What did he mean to your career? And is that gonna be showcased, you think, during this document? Henry. Again, I haven't seen it. But they said he interviewed him for it. But he was awesome for those three years to give me that opportunity to come work for him. Again, think about those defensive coaches. I said I got to be around. Well, I got to be the offensive coordinator for a national championship Alabama, Nick Saban team and USC national championship teams. That's unbelievable to have those opportunities to learn from. And I just take a lot of both Pete Carroll and Nick Saban and what they did. And they've kind of kind of. and combined it to what we are here. I think we're kind of a real combination of both. Go ahead, AJ. I guess throughout all your different, you know, coaching gigs that you have had,

I know coaches obviously are always moving around, but you've had so much different experience, NFL college all over the place. I guess were you always, you know, paying attention, taking notes, building your book of what you're going to do like as a head coach, wherever that may be, even no matter, you know, some places worked out better than others. But you have so many things to, so many great coach, I guess, to rely on. Were you always taking things and writing them down? Like, how do you remember these things that maybe Nick Saban said 15, 20 years ago?

Yeah, I think just a lot of experiences with them. And then when things come up, I do it all the time. I'll have a situation come up, decision to make, and I'll go, okay, Coach Carroll would have done this. Coach Saban would do this. And so it's just awesome experience to draw back to being with those guys. And really young with Coach Carroll. And so you go through experiences, and then you get these head jobs at really young age. And so those are experiences, too, because you screw a lot up.

And, you know, I say to people, I think how much better you'd be as a parent the fifth time around. Well, a lot of head jobs. And so the fifth time around, you get a lot better if you learn from your mistakes. So I think that's kind of what I feel like's happened in my life and with coaching. I think you were ahead of the curve whenever you sent Janikowski out there for a 76 yarder or whatever it was. It's like, they're doing that now. Now guys are going out there for 66, 70 yards. I think you were ahead of the curve.

And the confidence you showed in the Polish canon is an absolutely beautiful thing. I love that you did that. I want to let you know. And I hope that has a little piece of the documentary tonight. Seabash didn't hit that one clean. But if he would have, that thing would have been good, I think, Lane. I still think it was the right decision. See, sometimes we're just ahead of the curve.

They just aren't ready for it yet. And he had made that in practice. And like you said, I've always been, I'm going to believe in the players. We go for more on fourth down than anybody. we run all these plays. That's not just out of nowhere. It's because we believe in the players. And we put it on, hey, we know you can make these plays.

And I think that's why a lot of people come play for us. You can make us, right? 76. Got a little wind in the face? That might be a little tough. Actually, Lekler, the punter is the one by me and goes, hey, we got this, coach. And I'm like, all right, Shane, sure.

Shane's up for the Hall of Fame yet again. I hope he gets in there. goat. I love everything about him. Seventy-six-yard field goal. It's 15-0. Is that five field goals? Would this been the sixth field goal of the half? No, but

it might have been. Could you imagine Sebastian Jerkowski is the greatest half in the history of a kicker? This one comes up a little short. And I'm like, oh, shit, there goes the returner. Yeah. Yep, but the big play was made. Yeah, Shane would have made the tackle for you. Shane would have made the tackle for you.

Let's go over to that. I could feel Al Davis up the press box going it's re-burned this coach i'm firing this coach i think you fired me the next week anyway hold on you were left on a tarmac too what was that USC is that real you i wasn't left on the tarmac that just it sounds better when you say tarmac we landed and then the ad in the airport right there in a side room met with me and i was actually on the bus going back to the the facility at USC because they sleep at the office back then and get ready for the next game and I and he called me it was like three o'clock like in the private airport there and um that's where he told me so he showed up a little bit late oh where's he at he's already on the bus we didn't want that to get me

off the bus I had no idea you're sitting front seat there yeah which is why I was upset at fine bomb because that day is the day fine bomb it's like his first time on game being he must make this big splash, which remember he was a Tennessee guy, so he hated me for leaving Tennessee. So here was his chance. So he does this whole Miley Cyrus thing in the AD and president are watching it like, well, we probably got to get rid of this head coach if he's like Miley Cyrus. They get rid of me that morning at three in the morning, whatever it is. And now I can look back and say, hey, Paul, thanks. Because if you wouldn't have got me fired there, I would have never got to Nick Saban.

And then Nick Saban leaves down to South Florida, where you start doing your thing. and then all of a sudden we're at Ole Miss, and now your name's up for everything everywhere all the time. And we're thankful that you're back at the top. Let's go to Hammer. Don. Tom. Tom.

A. P. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, coach. You don't mind taking jabs at other SEC coaches on Twitter or interviews. Who's your favorite SEC coach to take jabs at? And do you play more pickleball, or does Hugh Freeze play more golf? I think Hugh Freeze plays a lot more golf. And not pickleball is like 30 minutes. that's over here, you know, like, we go over and play.

And it's kind of bonding, too. Staff we play, players, play with the players sometimes. Me and one of our coaches beat our two receivers the other day. Come on. You beat the boys. I don't know what coach. I don't know what coach, you know. Jimbo's gone now, so I'm not funny.

All right. Last question. Harold Perkins, obviously an absolute monster on the LSU defense. Whittweeks is a beast. We all know that. We know that he, yep, he is an absolute big. How are you preparing for this LSU defense? What are the thoughts?

Well, these guys are really good, as you said. Those are two great phenomenal players. Good men, too, from what I've been told. Yeah, Perkins has got to be the fastest line by we've seen a long, long time. Like, this guy's like, Eric Brooks or something. I mean, he chases people down. It's unbelievable his skill set. We played him as a true freshmanist.

I thought for sure by now he'd be gone as the fifth pick of the draft somewhere or something. So it's really challenging. They do a great job. They're really well coached. And now they've got the secondary better with these three new pieces they went out and bought. And so this is big time now.

Certainly is. We can't wait to watch your team. We're incredibly proud of you, even though we don't know you for everything that you've gone through and where you've gotten today. We can't wait to watch tonight alongside you, I guess. You're going to be watching. Whoa. I couldn't even imagine the anxiety potentially leading up to what seven o'clock's going to bring. But maybe you don't even have that anymore because it's the new Lane Kiffin. We'll learn about that tonight. No, I really don't. I mean, I'll be here working, actually. And someone asked me about that. And they said, and I'm not worried. Because when you're genuine and real in interviews and everything, whatever people take is what they take. You don't have to worry about anything. So there's no anxiety about it. Yeah, and I'm not going to add any more anxiety about this LSU defense, I can promise you that.

Okay, as there has to be. I mean, the boys are flying around. They've got a six foot five safety, I think. And in a six foot three corner, you talked about pieces being bought, which is incredible, which actually leads to. What is your thoughts on the current state of college football? I guess we should. We ask this to everybody. What are your thoughts on it? Obviously, you have to adapt, evolve.

You have to lean into it. If you want to have success, what's everybody's rules. How do you feel about it as a guy who's been around for so damn long? Yeah, I don't like it. for college football at all. I mean, I don't think there's anybody that thinks it's a good thing that players are playing at four or five teams, you know, in college. And so I don't like that. I don't like that it doesn't have the same camaraderie in the locker room because, you know, everyone chose to go there or grow up wanting to go to the school where so many players are now,

which is fine, but they choose to go to school because it pays them more money. They don't, they didn't even grow up a fan of it. So I don't like that part of it. And it gives the kids away, whenever things aren't going well, I just go in the portal and I leave. So there are good parts of it for the players. It's great that they get paid, but I don't think it's really good for college football that there's so much movement. Feels like everybody's saying the same thing. Have a great season.

Good luck. And you're one of the most influential voices in the sports. So keep saying it, brother. Keep saying it. All right, guys. Have a great week. Thanks for having me. Hey, thank you for joining us.

We should do this again. Yeah, this is my first invite. ever that's not true Lane that is not true you know that there's my SID he just said it's true that guy's cut out okay yeah I'm just saying that too I think I've even tried

to come on you guys like yeah we got bigger people you know like bigger Lane Giffin bullshit yeah right you get on here ladies and gentlemen for the first time SID sucks I don't like

Kyle Campbell he's a Campbell yeah yeah same wise name you guys still sucks yeah no he's great he's great all right we appreciate the hell out of you good luck with everything thank you for joining us

and congrats on finding who you're supposed to be throughout this entire life process ladies and gentlemen the head coach at Ole Miss Lane Kiffin Hey Crazy life yeah that's gonna be great

yes that trailer was awesome we have pitched things like this by a lot of people you know like hey There's a trailer for a documentary we're doing. Do you want to talk to the person? Hey, here's a trailer for a documentary. Do you want to talk?

It's a very cool stage of this show, having that kind of show up. That is much better than having to, which we still have to do every single day. It's a fucking process, you know, and you'll take care of it. As soon as that trailer came through, just because of my age and I think our age, like, we have lived Lane Kiffin's entire thing. So for him sitting down and chit chatting about it, like very excited. And McGee is the one doing it. Now we're talking, AJ. I mean, when I saw McGee pop up in the trailer.

Yeah, you knew it was going to be great, but most people don't, I mean, I forget a lot of lanes, the things that happen with Lane and the tarmac and the Raiders gig. Like, Lane has lived a colorful life as a coach, and he's only 50 years old, like the dude, it's going to be great. I can't wait to see this. His football life has been in dog years, like, absolutely. You know, for Tennessee, we see that with the Florida thing, then show him, nope, that ain't going to happen. Then leaving in the middle of the night, see, I don't want to do it. USC, then USC becoming the tarmac story. I was actually way off the tarmac.

Through the FBI, they probably gave him a little food, actually, a little snack, got onto the bus, sat down on the bus, and then I was called back off of the bus, back into FBI, back in the private room, then I was fired. But I guess there was a tarmac at some point in that entire thing. That ran with it. And then his resurgence in the college ball, all the rumors, all the stories. Yeah. I mean, it's just one thing after another, Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin, and then now it feels like he's very content. Yeah. Feels like he's very content.

He'd be there for the next 25 years. Like, that's how it feels. never would have said I wanted to live in Oxford, Mississippi. Okay? Never would have said that. Geez, always, could you imagine? And he said, I get here. Turns out, I needed this place. I love this place. His name is up for a job on a regular basis. There's one, the Panhandle over there, the Gaitis.

His name is up all the time for the Florida Gators. Anytime there's a thought that the Gators might be up, it's like Lane Kiffin. Really? Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin. And then people are like, Elaine, Lane loves Florida. There's always like that whole thing. It seems like he's pretty happy with everything. going on at Old Miss.

He's a rebel. He's very comfortable. And does he have the backing? He has to, all the players he has. He has to have money down there. Yeah, they've lost a couple. I mean, they lost Judkins. They are.

They are traditionally one of the highest spenders in the portal each season. What were you shaking your head for, Todd? Maybe now, I was just thinking NIL, though, I don't think Ole Miss. When I think SEC, Ole Miss isn't one of the first, like, four teams I'm thinking of. Okay, who are they? Georgia, for sure. Bama. Alabama, Texas, LSU, Oklahoma.

I mean, I don't know if Oklahoma's up, A&M, like that there's... You're thinking of A&M before Ole Miss right now? In terms of money? Yeah. No, I'm not sorry. No, I didn't know you were talking about money. I thought you were saying name recognition. Oh, no, but same deal.

They wouldn't be like... I think Old Miss above a couple of those schools, you said. Name recognition? For money, I think. I think some of those schools don't have a lot. Oh, for money. Yeah, for money. We're talking about money, right?

Right. Yeah, I think there's a couple of those schools that maybe over the next 10 years we'll see what ends up happening. Yeah, and like I said, I could be wrong. It's just, I mean, and they've been good throughout his tenure, obviously, and they need to kind of make that next step and get to the playoffs. But they're still, I feel like in the SEC, kind of always on the outside looking in. Yeah, the SEC coaches and people are talking about how much money the North has. A lot of money being talked about from the North, AJ.

And all the North used to talk about is how much money the South. used to give to everybody all the time that is kind of what the that used to be the convoy now it's completely flip I like we can't keep what do we what are we these guys got sick big a billionaires what is this what is going on up here and then the north was like oh it was fun wasn't it whenever nobody was allowed to do it but everybody was doing that's literally the two conversations taking place I love that Lane Kiffin's back in the spotlight ladies and gentlemen let's spotlight something that doesn't get spotlighted enough let's

spotlight the big guys it's time to go in the trenches with the top five performing offensive lines for week three of the NFL season. Thank you. Let's go. Here we go. Number five. Number five, the Washington commanders. Whoa. Marcus Marriota, quarterback. Marcus Marriota, and they did not skip a beat with him in there.

And if you take a look at this, look who's over there, right tight end. Who is that? 78. Carmi Tunsel. What? Move him over, and they only got a tight end over here. They're doing all the same stuff they do with Jaden Daniels. They do not skip a beat with Cliff Kingsbury at the helm, call him plays.

And this guy in there, Marcus Marriota at quarterback, it's the same offense. They had over 200 yards rushing. Rookie Connerly Jr. against Max Crosby, only gave up one sack, and it was late. Really good group. That looks pretty easy for Marks Marieto. Yeah, wait. If tons was that right tackle, who's the caboose at left tackle? The left tackle is huge.

Who the hell? Oh, left guard, gee. Yeah, they had tackle over, brother. You know who that is? Chris Paul. They had two new guards in this game, too. Chris Paul played left guard, and Nick Allegretti. who came over from the Chiefs was out, and they played Andrew Wiley.

So a whole new unit, still. Okay, hit question for you. AJ Hawk, what are the percentages of tackle over and then running the opposite way? I assume a defense thinks you move Laramie Tonsor over there for a reason. We're obviously going heavy. We're going left, left, close, close, close. What are you doing? And then for them to go the back way.

Is that just not expected? That's what Cliff Kingsbury's doing here? Yeah, Andy, you read that end, too. If you run it back, who's the end? Was it 51 right here? He's unblocked and you're reading him. So watch this bluff by the tight end. Oh, here we go.

He didn't know what to do. Like, who am I supposed to take if I'm that DN? Good luck. But yeah, this also sets up for when they do want to run to that overload side. It's good to show this for a defense because they can't just load up and say, all right, they're running to tonsil. Not just against the Raiders. We're talking about for the next three, four weeks, too, running this week, right?

Absolutely, because this thing, like, when you run a play, it stays on tape for four weeks. You've got to prepare it for it. There's another play I wanted to show, but he fumbled late and gave up the ball. But they had garden tackle pulling left, guy in motion. right, tight end coming back across. The defense was in a blender, just stuck. And then Marcus Marriota out in front, like over here. The whole defense went left, and then he just follows his two tight ends.

Like, they're doing some really cool stuff. Feels like there's some play designers and play callers that can make offensive alignment better. The Washington Commanders number five coming out of week three. Who's the number four ranked performing offensive line of week three? The Minnesota Vikings. Well, congratulations, the Vikings. And let's start with big number 71.

Christian Derasaw is back from his ACL injury. Watch, again, we talk about making it easier for guys, right? We're going to send Hawkinson through. Derrissau looks like he's just walking. All he's doing is stealing, Trey Hendrickson right there, opens up the hole. Donovan Jackson, big number 74, the rookie out of Ohio State. Let's take a look at him, put his guy on his ass, and then let's look at Brian O'Neill on the backside, big number 75. Pro Bowler out of Pittsburgh from Delaware driving his ass on the ground.

Oh, Neil out of Pittsburgh. He's not scared to get rough and tough out there. Kevin O'Connell, one of those guys that helps out the offensive line? He does a fantastic job. All the guys that come from the McVeigh system, they understand Cliff Kingsbury, McVey, Kevin O'Connell. All these guys understand that when you make it easier, you're not running your head into a brick wall like half the guys in this league. AJ, who should we be talking about? Look at the center, 65.

Look how fast he gets up to the second level. Here we go. All right, here you go. Good luck. Run through my body if you want to get to this guy. It's so annoying when centers get up to the second level that quick. Like, all right, man, what am I going to do here? He does a great job wheeling his hips, too, and hooking him at the end there.

All right. Minnesota Vikings number four, congrats to them. Who's the number three ranked offensive line coming out of week three? The best team in the NFL, the Buffalo Bill. Whoa. Best team. I like that. Number three offense line.

Here, let me set this up real quick. They're going to make it look like they are running zone to the right. If you notice, they got back offset to the left, full back offset to the right. They're going to make it look like they're running zone to the right and sending Jackson Hawes back across, but guess what?

They're running same side counter, making it easy on the tight end coming back across. Seal them, full back, full back, coming back on the counter. Pretty awesome stuff. Just easy yards, you're saying. Yeah, what are the fans doing? This is what you do. This is how you do it. Look, they make it seem like they get him crashing down because he thinks it's zone away,

and it's same side counter coming right back to him. AJ, what are your thoughts on what the dolphins are doing? What are they reading? What are they misreading, pal? Well, I don't know. You put them in it. It makes it tough, too, because the tight ends. coming back so he's diving under the DN number two

there he's diving under. Next time you might bluff him and go around and we're going to keep it and go outside. So whatever you choose, whether to dig it out or try to box it, you might be screwed. So many quick... Well, they're slanting. Look at the whole D-line slanting down. That's the thing. You're running that right into that slanting D-line. You see both them crashing down. Good luck.

That's a good time to call that play. So many quick decisions have to be making them. We've got DBs making tackles on running backs. I know you guys love that. Don't love that. That ain't what we get paid for. That's what we get paid for. It's a hard guy to that guy. Exactly.

Go coach. All right, who's the number two offensive line in the NFL out of week three? Yeah. All right, coach. I don't love the two up there. I thought there may be a different number, but I like that they're getting recognized for the second time in three weeks. Number two is pretty good. Let's start with that vocal leader.

You keep talking about. I keep talking about Quentin Nelson. Let's watch this single with him in Bordalini up to the backside backer. And then let's take a look at Tyler Warren. Supposed to go downhill. scoot outside right shoulder make a move, spin, see you later boys off to the house. The boy's a player.

Yeah, that's what we do around here. Michael Pittman getting something late too. I like that downfield. Quentin Nelson and Borlini piesons quickly. It seems like they're on the same page. Is there anything different with this offense than there was last year or is it just more to this offense than there was last year? I mean, Tyler

Warren gives you that added element. Like even right here, obviously he's in tight end. Sometimes he lines up at fullback. There's so much stuff he can do. And in this case, right here, when you look at this from the very beginning, he's supposed to hit through straight ahead, right through that B gap. But then he recognizes it and doesn't just run into his tackle, makes a little subtle move, and still gets a great block. Yeah, so Jonathan Taylor has to just kind of follow his blocks. And that right there. You didn't see that in years past. That's what gives you

the home run runs is receivers extra effort downfield. Like he could have stopped right there, which kind of looks like he does. Let's go get a piece. Be careful. Be careful. If you're talking about a block in the back now? Yeah. It was close. be pissed. He dove and missed them. He hit him on the shoulder. He hit him on a side, clearly. He got his left hand that are on shore. Good round by J.T. Those holes are so big. I mean, anybody can fit

through that. Huge. And it starts by having a fullback. I talk about this all the time. If there's no fullback there, they're out leveraged against the defense. And when you have the fullback, now you can work back a guy. And always work back. That part right there. That's the special part. And then a celebration is sick as well. I will say,

AJ, how do you stop it? You don't. You don't. You don't stop there. I mean, Look at him how many people he makes miss. Like, you are not supposed to score on this play, and he does. This is awesome. Jonathan Taylor playing very good football right now. The Colts playing very good. What a play by Quentin Nelson, too.

Like, what a great snap for Quentin Nelson. That's a great. And then he'll be the first one, Donner. Look at him. Bop, Baw, Quentin Nelson. We got to get Diner. Boys, we did it, boys. We did it, boys.

I love everything about it. If they're no number one, who is? Who's the number one performer? Oh. Okay. Oh, yeah. All right. I understand what they did.

He had to do it. Fair play. Fair play. The Detroit Lions, number one. And let's take a look at this right here. We got that super eye formation again, right? Now we're going to go over and debut. AJ, talk a little bit how this affects you guys, too,

because when you line up in that straight eye, you don't know where the strength of the formation is. And then they motion. So it, like, holds the defense for a half a second. Now you see them. They're trying to get adjusted to it. And then, boom, you snap it quick on them. Yes.

More so for AJ with a close call. But yeah, you're waiting. When in that stacked that humid centipede eye, you're waiting for them to shift down. They could also snap the ball there too, so it gets their defense point on the heels for sure. You're talking about the Soul Train line, Kong line, the dance line? They're still trying to get lined up.

Oh, now we get the nose guard down, finally. And then they get everybody plused over to the strength, and I always say it, whenever you run this duo play to the strong side, everybody overplays it, and when you overplay it, what's juicy, that big backside B cut. watch Penae Soule and Ratledge open this thing up. Right tackle, right guard. Right guard, right tackle.

Follow the circle. Boom. Take him inside, take him outside. Look at that hole, boys. Great vision. Is that any good? Peney had to feel pretty good. Mis and Van Nuoy.

I mean, what a moment this is for Pena. Watch how cool Penae looks throughout the entirety of this thing. Okay, obviously, you're going to have to get the edge. Let me go ahead and create a hole. Follow my ass. I got you. And then he just throws the guy out of the ground and then he just strut them off. Yeah, what up.

That's easy. What a day for Ben A. Seul. He's been a guy since he got there. Yes, and he got the highest run-blocking grade PFF has ever given out in this game right here. Wow. For whatever that's worth. Well, BFF did that. Hey, really?

I liked that. Well, congrats to the top five offensive lines around the NFL that normally bodes well for how your team's going to do the rest of the year. If this follows the trend of last year's in the trenches, top five performing offensive lines of each week. Number one, Lions, two Colts. All right. Buffalo, Bill. It's Minnesota Vikings, Washington Commanders, a lot of good football teams, a lot of good play callers. Detroit Lions, we should consider them to be all the way back when it comes to play calling,

play designing, and everything like that. This was cool for me to see this week because last week I was a little concerned after week one. Last week it was a lot of gadgets, a lot of creativity, a lot of shifts, motions, making it easy on the O line. This week, they lined up and said, we're going to beat the shit out of you. No, we're going to put three guys in the backfield behind you. Yeah, I think that's Johnny Moe special, too, because I don't think Ben Johnson ever did this. First time we saw this, and they ran this play a lot. you know, Johnny Moe?

He said, I got three guys in the backfield. That play near the goal line, too. They hit St. Brown, pitched it. That was a hell of a blow. Handoff pitch. Yeah. That was a great pitch. Yeah, perfect.

And go back to the second quarter, same formation, ran the quarterback sneak. So they set it up with the quarterback sneak with St. Brown offset to the left, and then they come back and run it. It's always setting it up. Johnny Motto. That's Johnny Moe.

That's Johnny Moe. Upper Moe. Congratulations. There it is. That is tough. That is tough. Is that Sonic and Knuckles? Yeah, I'm not sure.

I don't know if we can give four or five. Not sure we can give Johnny Moe credit. I believe they ran that last year, Foxy. What do you mean? Pretty sure I saw a clip of 2019. Yes, you did. Tassum Hill and Camara when Dan Campbell was with the Saints. Oh, it's a Dan Campbell player.

Amon can make that pitch. Amon does everything for us. He's unbelievable, by the way. Yeah. St. Brown. So those three of Almanra and the two running backs is, Congratulations to the lines number one offensive line after week

three. Now ladies and gentlemen it's time to learn about the other side of the ball. It has been a staple of the program. It has made us all better and smarter. It's time to go everything DB. Good D and Bad D. D. Darius, what do we have? Here we go, Dee much. Let's start with the good D. talking about

highest rated games by PFF since we're holding their water today. 99.9 grade for Isaiah Rogers. Had an unbelievable game. Had a pick six. We've seen a couple of times earlier throughout the week. And this, look, get a little positive gain if you're the Bengals first and 10. Nope, stripped it, picked it up, and took it back to the crib for his second touchdown.

The only Vikings defender to ever score multiple TDs in the game. We've been talking about this punchout. You rarely see it from guys of his stature, especially on the big tight end. But when you attack that ball, strip it, pick it up, and then crib it, I mean, that's the trifecta. He is a special, special player. big addition to this Minnesota Vikings defense and this is just an all this is one of those games you dream about on Saturday night when you go to sleep man big time game by this guy I'm going to score two touchdowns tomorrow yeah NFC defensive player the week and obviously rightfully so very violent defense though on the zoom in there the punch out very violent then linebacker over there was violent it feels like Bflow's defense humming Isaiah Rogers perfect for them we're also incredibly happy for Isaiah yeah he bounced back you know you go through some shit he was suspended for a year you know young player made some mistake former Colt went one won a Super Bowl with the Eagles, and then was a big-time addition here.

Eagles, maybe even missing them a little bit because they're still trying to figure out who's going to be that other corner opposite of Quinion Mitchell. But, yeah, he is making a great career for himself. Number two. Ryan Flores, Long good D. Oh, yeah, a lot of good D. Pause on that, but, yes, a lot of good defense. A lot of good D from B-Flow.

It's just good D everywhere. Mm-hmm. Isn't it? Oh, yeah. Get you some of this good D. Over here there's a good D. Over there's a good D. Everywhere is good D. That is what it is. Good coach. Good coach. B Flo's good D coach. He'll coach you up on that D.

You've got an average D, he'll make it good D. That's what he did when he went to the Vikings. Without doubt. That's what Kevin O'Connell was like, KOC's like, I need that good D. Let me bring in Brian Flores. Yeah, he knew. No, that's what he said. KOS D when he was on the program, he said when I become a head coach, the only D I need is Brian Flores' D in order for.

for this team to kind of make it over the hump. And we will say Brian Flores' D has been perfect for KOC, and it's been sweet to see with that good old D over there with the Vikings, you know, and that's something that we all scull. Skull. Skull. Skull. It's hard not to. And they blow that horn.

Yeah. Gotta blow your lid out there. Everybody sculled. Yeah. You know, a lot of, man. We're down with a good D there. Is this more good D here? This is a great defense.

Whenever you pitch a shutout in the National Football. football league. I don't care who you're playing against. It's tough to do, especially against a divisional opponent. Michael Pennix, Jr. had a very, very tough out against his Panthers defense. Is he suck? It's too early to say. Jack Robinson, they made some changes. They fired their wide receiver coach. So we have to fix everything, right? Yeah, she should fix everything. Wasn't he telling Pennix? Like, hey, dude, throw this ball here? You know what? It's probably something that happened in the locker room, for sure, when there's something like that happens. But Smith wait, yeah, Smith Wade in the slot here, you'll see him in

cover. Now, actually, this didn't start. It's great defense, in my opinion, can you run it here, and then you pause it right before he throws the ball. You got a dagger concept at the bottom of the screen. And he, Ray Ray McLeod is going to be wide open coming in. Usually want to hit this guy about two yards outside of the hash. He doesn't see him instead. He tries to go to the checkdown to the flat late, which you can never do in the NFL. Kenny Moore had a very similar pick six to start off the game against the Titans. Well, actually run it back a little bit. Start off the game against the titan.

So right here, maybe this is what fooled him. And we talk about it all the time with quarterback development, showing him something pre-snap and then rotating something different, post-snap. So right now it looks like split safety, so possibly cover two, maybe some quarters, and then you rotate to a single high post-snap. So maybe he expected something differently pre-snap, rotated post-snap, didn't hit his read, try to go to a checkdown, and paid dearly going to the flat lake. I have a question.

So he put that person in motion. They put old buddy in motion. Stud. What's his name? Kyle Pitts. He put Kyle Pitts in motion. It's not made his zone. Yep.

Okay, that's a reason why, that's a teller, indicator, whatever, because nobody's following. So whenever he takes a snap here, should his first look be to how many safeties are back there because he knows it's his own? Is that his first look if you're a quarterback? Absolutely. So as soon as... Always got to see that.

He potentially should see that this is one right here. Very quickly. You're going to see middle, middle closed, middle open. That's one of the first things you're looking at. Because that changes the past concept a lot of times for the wide receivers in the dbs, but wide open. And dagger, you run dagger against damn to any covers, you know, cover two, cover four, cover three.

His guy, like, he's looking that way. I don't understand why he doesn't go kind of from the high to the low. That's how we're taught to defend routes. And he did a great job in the flat being patient. And then breaking, we always talk about breaking on like indicators, breaking when the quarterback is ready to pass the ball, breaking the eggs, some people call it, take their hand off. the ball. He was a sannaki looking

throw left side, but great job anticipating seeing it and then breaking and making him pay taking it to the crib. There wasn't a bunch of pressure there either. It's not like he needed. It was in his pressure. He's young. He's young. Let the boy develop, okay? Like Arch Manning down there in Texas. And DJ Lagway over there in Florida. Let's

let these guys develop, okay? We don't need these short leashes all the time. With that being said, there's a $180 million dollar quarterback. That's right. And is it backup? Yeah. Rahe Morris put that down pretty quick.

Pretty quick. Yeah, Kirk lost his job. We're nowhere near that. Next question. He did have a bad game. That's going to happen. Terrible game. Terrible game.

No good. Downright. Absolutely terrible game. Yeah, it was bad. Let's bury the ball. That's Barry the ball for sure. You never want to get shut out. Young quarterback or quarterback, I don't care.

C.J. Strout had a great rookie year. Have been struggling since. Big moment in the game. It's fourth quarter of you down and touchdown. Good field position right here. This was a great, once again, pre-snap disguised because right now this looks like man-to-man coverage. It's Jordan Lewis, one of the better slot corners in the league, paid him some good money coming over from the Cowboys, and watch how he fooled. Like, when I saw this live on TV, I'm like, what the hell is C.J. Strau doing? I'm thinking it's just a flat defender

that was there the whole time. He thought he had the seven route was wide open, trying to sell it over the other man-to-man defender who would be on Dalton Shultz in the flat. Nope. Bated him, had the vision. saw him go out wide, baited him into that throat. And it is, it's still a terrible pick, you know, on film. But you got to feel that, you got to see that if you're a quarterback. But once again, showing a quarterback a pitcher pre-snap and then showing him something different post-snap. It's something you got to adjust and deal with. He baited butter.

Bade the butter here. And Jacksonville got it to him? Leading the league right now in interceptions. Travis Hunter playing defense? He is. He's playing a lot of defense. And he's getting it. I think he's playing good.

he had some bang-bang plays with Nico Collins. But he's playing good on both sides of the ball, I think. You know, as the season goes on. I feel like maybe a little lost in the sauce a little bit on offense. Right now it's a lot. A lot of he's got to figure out. A lot on his plate, I wonder if they go a little more. Hey, just play this side of the ball for the next few weeks.

Which would that be? That's only him because he's, he's dynamic. Yeah, when he got the ball? Yeah. When he got the ball on Sunday, I mean, it was. Election. Yeah, should have been a five-yard gain. a 15-yard first down. And then on

defense, look, we saw him covering this guy. He's a part of this play here, fourth quarter. Obviously, big play in the game. He's out there, locked down. Yeah, but if I had to choose, you know, offense. You talk about quarterbacks being paid a ton of money, being handed the keys. Number one pick. I already got a second contract, new coach. Let's see what

we got with this guy, and you don't want one of your more talented players not really knowing where to line up because you can't play. You've got to be able to just react and let those skills fully flourish. I can be maybe some situations defensively. For sure. that you kind of have him out there because he's obviously an insane athlete

and has the capability of doing it and if they have a bunch of weapons on the other side maybe get him a chance to get out there there he is with the ball in his hands yeah so when you see some shit like that is all right we gotta let's get the ball in this guy got to get this kind of ball yeah so you were turning kicks too

what do we uh what do we got some touches for sure what were you going to say if you felt like you were going to say something so ETN's also I think number two or number three in the league in rushing so like they have a very good run game their offensive lines drastically improved they got the quarterback they got some receivers

the tight end Brenton Strange has become a guy. So, like, they're pretty good. Yeah, they traded Tank Bigsby, and they're backup now, Basil Tutan, actual name. B, H-A-S-Y-L, I think, Tutan. Very good. Has scored the last two games. Like, he honestly almost complements ETM better because he's like a shorter, shiftyer guy, whereas Tank was more so just like, hey, run right downhill right through a motherfucker's face.

And Liam, good play designer. I'm a good play color, right? great play designer and great play caller okay Jacksonville Mike how do we feel about the quarterback Trevor Lawrence yeah how do we feel like use we got there's still a lot left to see I think his stats

were 20 of 40 this past week 20 yeah I'm getting the Hall of Fame I'm all B I mean first bout still there's just still too many inconsistency and there's also decisions that are made that it's like that's a bad decision yeah too many bonehead plays yeah like still maybe you miss a throw like that's going to happen but like this

and misthrow. At this stage, I think a lot of people are like, when are we, when is it, is it, are we ever going to, right? That's all what we're thinking. But hey, we see it though. It's there. There's moments of awesome. He's got like, gee, he's just got that little bit of Ryan Leaf still in him. And once he gets it out, he's going to really fly. Just kind of like lets it loose a little bit. Exactly. Just a little too loosey goosey with it. Like once you zero went in a little bit here. I mean, that boy's going, they might win the bowl. Liam will do that. Liam will do that. I think I trust some down there. And I'm seeing a graphic on the back that I have not seen before. Yeah, what is this? Yeah, Liam's calling some good shit to AQ's point. Yeah, this is, I think, the first time we've had a quad box on a... Look at a quad box. We've got circles on people that wide ass over. Yes, and it's not a good

one. As you can see here, it's probably difficult for you to see them individually, but these were all four of Caleb Williams touchdown passes. Now, there have been plays, and there always will be plays where people, fans at home, hey, the guy was wide open, why not hit the hat one? Actually, earlier this year with DJ Moore,

which was an adjustment. Why don't you hit him? So to Caleb's credit, he hit the open guys. Ben Johnson dialed up some good stuff, but let's get to the tape and see two of these touches. I mean, you rarely see guys open like that in the national football league.

It's a flea flicker. Pause it. Cover three. On any level of football, cover three, what's the cornerbacks' responsibility? In cover three? Deep third. Deep third.

So that's letting you hold top down. So you do not have a run responsibility. The only time you have a run responsibility is if you're a guy crack blocks, your wide receiver crack blocks, he makes the contact knee. You see the running back downfield. You make a tackle 10 yards down the field. You're a deep third guy. Let it play. So once the ball is tossed to the running back, you should not be firing up, especially when that receiver is doing that. It's no way you or the free safety should be reacting to a handoff or a toss behind the line

of scrimmage. Because when you do, this is what's going to happen. And once again, credit to Caleb catching his ball and throwing a piss. side of it. In stride, Luther Burton, the rookie, big time play, 65 yards. That's a huck. Yeah. Especially with that toss back. I mean, that thing was in the sky. It was like the toss he sent to Coach Johnson in a locker room.

And then he puts that thing on the dime. Hell of a ball. Guys wide open, obviously, can't have it, can't have it. You can't have it. But that's discipline. That's like you are a deep third player. So, I mean, working perfectly. Learn from, yeah. We're going to hand us off, everybody's going to jump. And then they'll be wide open. Like,

when somebody thought of the flea flicker, this was the exact reaction. Yeah, exactly. This is the exact reaction. This is like a Friday practice script for success. You tell the scout team corner, hey, get ready for a run here and then you run up, but you don't see, you see Fleet Flickers work, but I mean, for him to be this wide-ass open, once again, a great throw from Caleb Williams to take advantage of. Well, he's staying in bonds, too. The terrible job on defense. And this is another one from the quad box, Cole Commet. Now, Y, Y, Y, Wing up top, those two tight ends. Always has to be some communication between the flat defender who is the circle safety there and then the

linebacker who's going to be relating to three sometimes even the cornerback especially if that back is to it you just got to know because one of the things we see a lot of why why are two scenes right so right here i believe this would be like a cover three type look and down in the low red area run fake running back bites up which he has run responsibility but nobody takes the scene wide ass open you would think you know tight ends I mean I don't I don't get it like I don't understand The run fake actually helps him out a little bit I think the run fake bringing three over to the two-man side to the Y Y way wing it brings you like naturally where you could see that vertical you could turn and run with it a little thing

What's how's going on over there AJ? I don't know what coverage they're playing I can't speak for what their responsibilities may be but I'm sitting there if I see Y Y Y Wing I'm thinking I'm talking to my backer Hey tell me in the back is away pre-snap I'm talking like you let me know if you let me know if you're with me or you're not. If he stays on that side, I know I don't have any help. If he comes, if he comes over here to the Y, Y, Y, wing, I got help inside. I can drop one back. Oh, I love that. That's Hall of Fame talk, right. That is Hall of Fame. I don't know what coverage are playing, no, to be honest.

Yeah, that's a, that's a problem. Whatever, Hall of Famer, future Hall of Fame, you can look at the table and say, I don't know what they're playing, and you see a guy catch the, but I don't, I don't know if it's a defender within 10 yards of them from the 10-yard line in the end zone. You don't see that once again. Cave up got real excited through some real sauce on this thing. Yeah. And it almost makes it look like he's not as open. You know, because it's kind of a diving catch, and it's a quick tap and everything like that.

I don't think I realized how wide-ass open all these guys were until we saw this quad box. I was broached with the subject. Hey, we want to do a quad box for everything, DB. I go, what do you want to do? And then he put the pictures up, and it's like, holy fuck. That's bad. That's four different plays? That is, because you see one blown assignment.

You'll see a MA or whatever. That happens. Four plays that's happened. Is this on purpose? What the hell is going on? I mean, questions need to be asked, but you rarely, the one we won't go over, DJ Moore, they're wired. I mean, look at them! Bottom right, what quadrant is that? Is that a quadrant? That's Quad 4.

I'll say quad 4 right there, wide open in the middle of the end zone. Once again, no one near him. And then up top right, Trevon Diggs tried to do a quick jam. Fell stumbled in Roma Dunez 8 right at the field. But once again, the quarterback, they got to hit him. They got to find the mistakes and they got to hit him. So credit to him for hitting him. And to stay with the theme, two minute right here, tie ball game, the visual matchup, two minute drive, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Jr.

He was on Gooddie a couple weeks ago. And now up top right here, these two guys circled, Paul. So whenever you're running a combo coverage here, and I'm going to assume this. Whenever you're running a combo coverage, a big key running combo coverage of the corner safety, we got to be on the same level. Why? Because we want to see the same picture as the white receivers release upfield. If I'm at 5 and you're at 8, we're going to see it and fill the speed differently. And then you have to have rules built into a combo coverage.

One of the rules we used to always have, I was usually on the inside as a nickel or either safety. If anybody hesitates as the inside defender, if they come off slowly, I'm going to take that guy. I'm going to grab it just to clear it up because offenses do that intentionally to create confusion. So if you have that rule built in, that kind of will eliminate that confusion. So this is CJ, G.J. G. and Kamari Laster up there. So to me, if you run it back to the very beginning and hit play again, it looks like to me, number two, hesitates. Like, he is not a full speed release. So he kind of hesitates them.

So I would grab that. That's what CJGJ did. But the communication is key. We got to be on the same page. I can't be right and you'd be wrong or vice versa. So Kamari, I think he expects to grab that out route. And if it plays out perfectly, if you saw five seconds ahead of time, it will play out perfectly into a combat. I think the inside route, you take the outside route.

Because of that hesitation, it fucks up who takes who, and then you've got Brian Thomas Jr. making a huge play in a two-minute drive. He needed it for the confidence. Trevor Lawrence needs it, and obviously the Jaguars needed it, and it helped him win this game. But big-time miscommunication, I think it's not just something that happens on Sunday. This is walkthroughs. This is practice. This is meetings. Because a lot of every week, you're going to get stacks, bunches, emotions.

And especially when you put it on film like this, you're going to have to deal with it week in and week out. At fourth quarter, two minutes, Trevor Lawrence throws a seat. Just how all the questions that were at. AQ, that's for you. Obviously, the Houston Texans have a lot of questions right now. CJ, G.J., no longer with the team. Yeah, and who knows what all went into it? And then right here at the end of the play,

they didn't show it. But at the end of the play, Palms up. Yeah, Kamarie Lasseter kind of goes and looks back immediately. As soon as she pushed him out of the bounce, and it was like, it's not in the replay, but he gives them one of these, like looking at, obviously, the safety.

like what the hell is going on now we you know in their db room that might have been a fine because hey don't you don't put each other on blast but you're in a tough spot because everybody that's watching from come all right lasser man you can't keep up with the guys running cover cover the dude so it's a tough spot to be in but communication leading up to these plays you never know when they're going to show up stacks bunches release me but you mentioned that like that delay release when they stack behind each other that makes it so tough when you're at that combo coverage you're Right, like you see CJ, CJ, he knows he's jumping down trying to clamp that underneath guy. But yeah, look how it hesitated.

Oh, boom, I'll take you out of here. Yeah, man. That's good play design. Yeah, because if they just come out and run those routes, same speed, it'll fit perfect. In theory. We both have leverage. I take the out, you take the end. But when they come out and run it with that little sauce, a little hesitation on it, fucks everything up.

Hey, that's good shit. Everything, D.B., good, D. Bad D. Good in the trenches. AJ Hawker, great work today, bud. Congrats on the nomination for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That is cool, dude. It is cool. As a three-time nominee myself, it is a cool thing, but also, let's not let it affect our lives.

That's how you feel, too, yeah? Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's not affecting, yeah, we're good. But, boy, if you get in, that'd be so cool. How can I not affect it? Yeah, you're right, especially for AJ Hawk. For the first time, really ever getting the recognition. And the nod of, like, yeah, you've done all-time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in all sports.

Put him in a fucking ring of honor. No. That's where it starts. He's all-time-leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. AJ knows there's not a whole lot of numbers retired for the Packers. Well, and Curleys isn't even retired anymore. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what you've got to do.

I don't know if you're going to be able to do more than Curley did for the Green Bay Packers. Tone, anything we didn't hit today that we need to chit chat about on our way out? No, I think we're all good. All right, why don't you come out here? Why don't you come out here? Ladies and gentlemen, we are incredibly lucky to be able to do this. We have a conversation with Cam Bynum, we're about to run

that we had yesterday. He is awesome. He is incredible, and we're incredibly lucky that he's in our city and that the Indianapolis Colts are good again. Hell yeah. Feels like that is real. Thank you. We appreciate you. Appreciate you guys.

Great work this week. Appreciate you, you too, both. All right, boys. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. I might change your life. We're in this thing together. See you all tomorrow. Team on me, team on three.

One, two, three, team. Goodbye. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man that has brought so much positive energy, seemingly everywhere he has gone. Whether that's cow out there in Berkeley, which don't love what happened to Song Politelli this past Saturday, but I do love what they're doing out there. Then to the Minnesota Vikings where he and his crew on defense had the most legendary celebrations the NFL has ever seen. And they weren't this tasteful, disrespectful. They were just well thought out and well executed.

And there was a juice to that team that seemed very special. So much other, Chris Ballard said, hey, we need some of that. And thank God we did. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who leads the NFL in Interceptions. I think he's top five in past breakups. And he has the greatest celebrations in the history of sports. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Indianapolis Colts, Cam Bonner. Yeah.

Appreciate y'all having me. Glad to be here. Appreciate y'all having me in Indy, first of all. Yeah, it's been a fun few weeks. First three games, three and oh here in Indy. You have no idea how fun these first. No, I bet. I've been having, especially for us to start the season hot like we did,

I'm like, this is the best possible scenario coming to a different city, and I can tell the energy is just rising here. I appreciate the fact that there was an obvious omission of things to our roster. In this offseason, it was all kind of taken care of. We needed juice. For sure. Okay? 100%.

Bring in the juice guy. can't buy it and the juice is awesome we're talking every single play my shoulders are still after the head not from hitting from turning up the crowd yeah we got bolder shoulders at all times let alone everything else that i assume is infectious throughout the rest of the locker room quarterback obviously we need somebody that's able to be consistent and also operate the offense and also has played ball before and seen it because this is a veteran team does it feel like that in a lot yeah it feels like there's a bunch of you know guys that have played a lot of football but also still young as far as not a bunch of guys taking vet days,

not a bunch of old guys that are like almost borderline out of their game. It's kind of like a veteran prime right now for a lot of our guys. And just being surrounded by so many vets is cool. Because I feel like a vet, but I'm only in year five. I'm around guys like Kenny Moore, Buckner, Grove, all these guys that are year 8, 9, 10. And it's just cool being around that because it's pushing me to a different level of play. and I'm over here trying to be the best player on defense

surrounded by these guys and everybody's trying to be the best player in their respective roles so it's just making a collective energy of we're all trying to be the best and win. Bringing in Lou Anarumo is the D.C. was a huge deal this off season. We're all very excited. We know Paizan pretty well

and we've had a chance to catch up with him whenever he was with Cincinnati. Obviously with the way it ended there felt like what is Lou Anirumo going to do next? Our team has always had a lot of talent. So we actually go to the games. So a lot of people don't... We go to all the Colts,

game, so I'm there. We're there. I'm there where you see it. And, well, not all of them. I guess last game didn't go last year. Well, yeah, but all. You had to prove one. You've been every game I've been there. I'm like, I'll tell you what, Cam, I'm the number one bottom fan. What you have brought to the team is what I think the team needed when it comes to leader, everything

else. We'll get into it. But Lou Ann Arumo coming to the defense and then the signings that we made. What have you felt with the team? Because we've always had talent, and that's the thing that was kind of missing with the rest of national media. because we saw the team and because we're here, we knew there's a lot of talent, a lot of money on that team too.

A lot of guys have been through their first contract into their second contract on the Colts. And for one reason or another, we just haven't had massive success. When you get here, what's Lou Anirumo like? And then were you surprised by how much talent was on the roster,

especially because the Colts very rarely get talked about in that particular fashion? Yeah, I was surprised with the amount of talent that we had just because it's one of those teams that I didn't pay much attention to. I've played the Colts, what, twice in my career when I was with Minnesota. All right.

I want to talk about those games because I'm on a good side of it now here in Indy. Yes, you are. It was historic. We'll let Twitter come and bring that back up because I know they will. Oh, 33-0.

You were calling a game and you realized that way. We beat the shit out of the bike games. Jeff Saturday, he's the greatest coach of all time. Oh, yeah, orange slices that half the time. First half. Yeah. But, yeah, that's the first half. I'll still throw my shots.

I'm still a competitor. So what did you guys say at halftime there, though? Just so. Pat Pete. So when you talk about juice, like me being the juice guy here, Pat Pete was our juice guy that year. So he was in the locker and we're down 33-0. He said, all we need is five stops, guys.

And everybody's like, low-key. He said, all we need is five stops. So one at a time, often scored. We're like, all right, that's one stop. So he's counting them down on the sideline. Then what do you know? It's tied up. And we're like, oh, wow, this might actually work out.

Yeah, it might. Yeah, it might. Now that you're on the other side of it, obviously, we're lucky to have you over here. And Pat P, fucking relax. Okay, we need you to relax. Great leader. One of the best football players of all the time. Pat P and that whole thing.

But whenever you talk about, you're an NFC, obviously. We're an AFC team. And we're an AFC team that hasn't made the playoffs in a while. So I understand whenever you say you don't really get a chance to pay attention to them enough. But when you get in the locker room, what do you realize about the locker room? And then also, Lou Ann Arummo. Yeah, I think just what we realize in the locker room is that we're a solid team. I think it didn't come by surprise with anybody.

The belief, I think, and that's another thing that Lou brought, and especially from management, bringing these guys in, bringing me in, bringing Mooney Ward, and just putting this team together that they assembled this year, I feel like they believe that we can do something, and that started in the off season just by seeing them making the moves and free agency that I heard wasn't normal for them to make them in the past, having signings, big signings like they did with me, with Mooney, on defense specifically. So having to

you really go through that, knowing that the coaches and the staff is on board with making a change, then you get a defensive coach like Lou that's aggressive. He's holding everybody accountable. He's, you know, he's yelling at all of us. As a vet, the guys that got paid, he's holding us accountable. Rookies,

he's still going to yell at a rookie equally as much as he'll yell at Buck, at Grove, all the guys that have been here forever. So I think that's really the standard that we have that no matter who you are, you're going to be held accountable. but it's going to be all for the betterment of the team. So I think that it really created an energy of, okay, our expectation is to win.

And that's really, it started in the offseason by picking us up and really making moves and free agency. Oh, I love hearing everything about that. That sounds like a winning football team. There's a lot of shit coming out of Indianapolis the last few years that did not sound like a winning football team. I'm happy they addressed it. And the big three, their first season, D.Butt. I love it. Casey, Kaelin, Carly, is the ownership.

We got some major players all of a sudden. Go ahead, D. Absolutely. You talk about a winning football team. team, you need a quarterback. And Dan Jones came in, AR was a quarterback battle, something you never really want to be a part of when you're on the team. But Dan Jones, you know, he won the job.

And we see why, you know, coming from week one all the way to week three, he's been on fire, the offense, has been on fire. What did you see from him throughout the off season and then throughout training camp? And then obviously through these four weeks, not only on the field, but off the field kind in the locker room. Yeah. So what I've seen from him, well, we got history. He knocked us out the playoffs in 2022.

Oh, what was that? with the Giants. Yeah, a little get back. So then he knocked me out the playoffs then. Then last season he was on with the Vikings on the P-Squod for the second half of season. So I just saw the way that he was working. Even when he was on practice squad, he was taking those scout team reps going against our starting defense. And he was trying to dice us up.

And he was going out there treating it as if it's a game really like having intentful practices knowing that, okay, I'm using this time to get better because next season when I get my shot, he's going to take it and run with it. So when he got to Indy, it was really the same mindset. He was locked in, extra work, just seeing him long hours there, just always put the work in. So now when we went through training camp, it wasn't a surprise that he was playing well and just being consistent. I'm just playing good football, ended up winning the spot. And for me, I never had a doubt in my mind that he would, you know, turn things around.

He caught so much, you know, negativity from the world and the football world on the media. But it's like you see that you get in a place where they believe in you and they have a collective belief in support a quarterback, you see what he's doing now. Right now he's looking like the best in the league, and he's leading us to 3-0. Offense putting up 42 points the last game, 29 points a week before, 33, week one. So it's like even if we're having bad games on defense, our offense would still carry us to a win. So it's like at the end of the day, he's getting the job done and doing it well and protecting the ball. first and foremost.

Yeah, you're not having bad days on defense, which is great. You're talking about protecting the ball. Conti, who you obviously know now, this guy's a legend. You need to know that Matt Conti's a legend. He's a Penn State or two. Huge weekend up there. Oh, yeah. And happy, really.

The Colts have committed zero turnovers this season, making the first time in franchise history. The team hasn't turned a ball over through the first three weeks of the season. For the defense, obviously, put the fire out or a quick change or anything like that has always talked about. Them not turn the ball. Can you talk about all three phases coming together, including the punter. Hell yeah. punted one time in three games. That's wild.

Rick Berk-Rex has great, dude. It was a good punt. Do you know how bad I wanted us to go for it on fourth down, regardless of anything? I just want to keep his street going of not playing. So I was like, can we just go for it? I don't care if it's fourth and 20. Just go for it. So my only question is this.

Complementary football hits immediately with a lot of new pieces. Everybody's flying around. Brand new defense coordinator. Defense plays spectacular. Brand new quarterback offense playing spectacular. teams, kickers making kicks. Shout to Spencer Schrader. Can't be using leverage on guys. No, of course. No, the rule.

You can't do that. That is illegal. But that happening this quickly into the brand new era of this team, I guess the question is, is there still, like, long season? What is the thought to kind of carry that and to continue to build? I assume you all think that you're nowhere near where you can be, because how fresh everything is.

Is that how I should be viewing it as well as a Colts fan? Yeah, I think we haven't played our best ball yet, especially, I'm speaking for me as a defensive player. There's a lot of stuff that we left on the field. Even with these games, we've had turnovers, pick six, you know, strip sacks, everything we've had, but we feel like we haven't played our best ball, even on offense, getting down to the red zone and just kicking field goals. Special teams giving up, you know, an extra 10 yards on a return. So little small things that we're still

like, guys, we got to get better on. But we like where we're at. I think we set the foundation of what the year is going to be like. First game, interception, first series, last game, pick six, first series, offense, scoring the amount of points that they're scoring every single half. I think the foundation, the expectation is set. So the rest of the season, it's like if we, if we're anything less than what we've been, it'll be a letdown for us. So I think that's the best way to start. Yeah, big time.

We're expecting picks six. I'm expecting 17 and like, that's the energy. We went to the luncheon, the team luncheon before season, before, right after training camp, and we're up there talking, you know, the leaders are giving their little speeches and I'm up there talking. People probably looked to me crazy, but I said, I'm, I'm, I'm, expecting a Super Bowl out of us. And it probably sounds crazy from a new guy, like me coming to, you know, talk to the whole, all the donors and all the people sponsoring the team and the

whole team, a whole staff ownership. And I went on stage and was like, I expect a Super Bowl. That's the expectation to win every game. We fall short anywhere. Oh, well, but my expectation is a Super Bowl. That's how we work. I think every team thinks that, right? Every team is supposed to think that. But I think also whenever you see what you guys were building at the time at training Not a lot of talk about training camp other than Anthony Richardson and Danny Dives. The rest of the team wasn't even chatted about. Had no idea that Quentin Nelson

became a fucking vocal leader. Yeah. Like, no, he's different. He is. He's different. He's jumping around. He's a dog. Yeah.

He's, if a running back scores, he sprints to the end zone to go celebrate with him. He's over here, high five in the defense. Good way to run to the ball. I'm like, you're on the other side. You should not be happy about that. Like, but it's just a leadership thing that he's becoming. He's picking up.

Your first. I didn't know. I didn't know that. I'm thinking this is him. Ryan Kelly was the center leader. Ghostman in Minnesota. Yeah, now is in Minnesota. Did two of our linemen from the Colts? Yeah, to pay for you. We just traded people.

Yeah, to pay for you. We have to do that. Shout out to them. Yeah, shout out to that. Certainly shout out for what they did for the Colts. But Ryan Kelly had been here a long time. And is the center. So the center normally the natural leader of the offense of line and also been there

a long time. So I think maybe Quentin wasn't like empowered to be like a vocal leader. I think you saw the way everything was going. And I love what. what I'm seeing from the mic'd up shit out of him. I don't know what the rest of the building looks like. How many of those guys are there on the team? A lot of people that understand the sense of urgency,

you think that- I think there's a lot, especially like we said, there's so many vets on the team, so everybody's comfortable talking, but nobody talks too much to where it's like, okay, you're doing too much, you're trying too hard to be leader. Everybody has their natural leadership role.

For me, it's the lead by example, lead with energy. For Zaire Franklin, it's the, I'm turned up, I'm gonna run through your face type of leadership. Kenny, you know what you're going to get. He has this finesse and his swag, and he's still going to be, like, a leader. So, like, just those three pieces on defense with Mooney just being locked in knowing he's going to lock up, lock things up on the outside. Everybody has their certain type of leadership.

Then on the offense, obviously, quarterback, Danny Dimes, he's a little more quiet, but, you know, he's still making sure everything is operating well. But Q, he's a vocal leader. He's running to everything. That's awesome. Like, just everything. So you get a little bit of everything from everybody. to the point where everybody is like locked in on their certain role where nobody's overstepping their boundaries of okay this guy needs to calm down he's trying too hard so it's a natural leadership in this locker room anybody missing team meetings or treatments or anything like that no there you go never that's an expectation just around the league like you don't you don't do that I agree you're not late yeah yeah you would get fine one the money's one thing but the embarrassment if you miss it and coach puts you on the spot it's like nobody wants to be be that guy that's late and has to talk in front of the team and give your excuse.

This offseason, the transition into like elite kind of operating and elite leadership is wonderful. I don't know how the hell it happened. It might have just been you coming. I hope I had a part of it. Yeah, you did, brother. You did. It's why any of those Cadillac escalades you're going to be trying to triple down on, he's got this thing is a spaceship. Gorgeous. It might, I don't know if it's bulletproof fucking looked like it. It looks like. It looks like. it don't try it don't test it though yeah please don't please don't Connor has a question for you so with the offseason you know bringing in players it was also kind of like hey Shane Stuyken better figure this out when it comes to you know

hey coach kind of like a hot seat prove a year if you will we kind of called them shite stiking we did not I called them we we I may I said it once we we call them shite stiking for a little it's much different now I mean I think we could even say maybe like a sweet Stikin, maybe a Shine Stikin now because of how well he is. But as a defensive guy, you've now played for two, you know, offensive guru coaches with KFC and Stikin. What are kind of the similarities between the two? Because for us, we always thought Stikin was the guy,

but, you know, this is the first year you've really kind of seen it where the offense is perfect, no turnovers, you know, guys are running wide open. What are the similarities between the two, you know, on game day and then also just in the building? because he is kind of that leader, that guy on offense, but as a defensive guy, I'm not sure if you guys interact as much. Yeah, I think as a head coach, I think one thing Stuyken does well is actually operating with the whole team.

He'll sit in on defensive meetings, he'll sit in on special teams, and obviously be with the offense because he's in charge of offense. But that's one thing that he does well is knowing all the players to where everybody can vouch for him and be like, okay, I've had a conversation with him. Coach knows who I am, you know, talks to everybody pretty much exactly the same. Then on top of that, on the football part, I think one thing, the big part of success is how a head coach operates with the quarterback, just the confidence that they can give a quarterback and really putting them in position to succeed with the plays they called, you know, just certain things, little small things, how you start the game.

Let's not go for a shot first play. Let's get your rhythm. And that's basic around the league, but I see it in our offense how consistent our offense has been. and it's been nothing flashy. Everything's been just consistent. And you see coaches putting everybody, every single player on that offense, especially the quarterback, in position to succeed. And I think that's really what I've seen from coming from Minnesota,

what he's been, what KO's been able to do with the quarterback's there, then coming here, seeing what Shane is doing. It's like, okay, that's the blueprint. When you really instill that belief in a quarterback that they can do something well and they can operate this offense where the quarterback knows, okay, I got this. it's easy from there. Shane talk shit to you guys during practice or no?

Any interaction? He's fiery. I'm not going to lie. Especially during joint practice to the other team. He'll bring the huddle in and look at all of us in the eyes. Like, you know, he'll say some crazy stuff. Like, let's go. We got to run through this team.

Like he's a competitor. That's one thing I love about Shane. Like he's an ultra competitor and he's exciting. Like he gets turned up. I'm not going to lie. I like to hear that. He's one of those guys. He said shoot and dat gum and stuff, and you never really know.

Gracious to Pete. Yeah, all that stuff. You never really know what's in the soul. But he was with Phil Rivers, remember. That's the point. And we remember Phil Rivers being one of the greatest shit talkers in the history of sport without ever swear. What was that? 98-yard touchdown to that detail.

Jacksonville, yeah. He got to helped him up. Yeah, yeah. That was in Galkway, who played here for a little bit. That's what I'm saying. So if Shane Stikens got that in him, I didn't know we had that on the same thing. a dog. I'm not going to lie. You have to come to the locker in one day. I doubt. Chains a dog. They will not let you in there. We got some trade pieces.

That keeps scoring touchdowns. Tye has a question for you. You mentioned, hey, the expectation, 17 and 0 and winning a Super Bowl. And I know that this is your first year, so I don't know how much you got to meet Mr. Ursa or what your relationship was like with him before he passed away. But looking at it, it seems like almost, you know, like what's happened so far early here. Like, you guys, you guys. guys are being lifted by like a higher power or like there's something else going on there like the vibes are great and i understand it's a week to week league but like early right now as you look at it does it feel like you know what this actually does feel a little bit more special maybe than like some

of my other seasons in the league because i don't know if you realize this but like if you guys do do that if you win a super bowl like there is a thousand percent going to be a movie made about this season yeah rest and peace to the exactly so maybe also start thinking about who you'd want to play you in that movie as well but does it feel that i'm I had to be in it myself. Just filming an off season. But, yeah. You can definitely make the habit, good charisma, good mom.

I would easily do that. But, yeah, I think really just the whole, you know, I was never able to meet him. But I feel like I've known him because I've obviously met all the daughters, Carly, and all the sisters. And you see how they operate things and how well they treat people. And really just the whole franchise of how it's really a family-ran business. And it was a surprise to me when I got here, like how much I felt like I was at home and being like with a family.

And that's something that struck me as soon as I got there. I was like, wow, it feels like I've been here for a while. And really, that started with the ownership and how involved they are in a good way. Never overstepping their boundaries, never doing too much. But being involved where you're like, okay, I can respect how much you actually care about this team. And you're not just, you know, a rich person that buys a team and just, all right, y'all figure it out. She's in there learning football, learning coverages, asking us questions, not because she's trying to be, you know, overstepping, like I said,

but really genuine, genuinely curious of, okay, how does this football stuff work? So when she's on the sideline, she's locked in and really doing that. Just, like I said, just trying to learn just out of love for the team and love for the game. And I see where it comes from of her dad and all the stories that I hear, like how much he really loved on every single person and how, you know, all the stories you hear about he took care of every single person that needed something and more. So I think this year we're for sure, we're having that in the back of our mind. Like we want to honor their family by playing hard and just doing things the right way.

Just playing ball, just practicing hard and everything will fall in this place. I know I'm going to say 17 and 0, but it's the NFL. Like you never know what can happen, but we want to go out every single day and be okay with the work that we put in and take pride in every single thing that we put in and knowing that, okay, they're putting us in position to have everything that we need with the good ownership, with, you know, taking care of everything so we can just go play ball at a high level. And that's really our only goal is to honor them with the way we work. I love to hear that. Love everything you're saying. And I think that's a good call about the family environment. A lot of those people, not in, I thought it was a smart

play by you, not to try to name all three names because if you get one wrong, you're in a bad spot. Carly, Kaylin, and Casey are the three daughters. I know the names. I know, yeah, of course, of course, I don't want to stutter. Yeah, yeah, smart. And also, don't leave. Yeah, don't leave someone Yeah, you're early in the stint here. You did the right play there. The Erseys. Yeah, the big three. The big three.

The big three, but they've been around at their whole life, obviously, just like Jim has. But the people in that building, a lot of them that are in very powerful positions, whether it's in business, marketing, or treatment or equipment room, all that different place. They've been there since, like, 1987, whenever a team came here from the ball. That's crazy. Yeah, so you're talking about a lot of history, a lot of different eras of the cult. That says a lot. Like, the fact that people want to stay there for that long.

in a place where you know there's been ups and downs in the franchise but for them to stay steady and still love the city there's been a lot of downs as of late I'm just going to say it I've been asking for he's the hater of the group no no he's a Patriots fan he's Patriots fan but also I mean I live in the city okay Kim I'm damn near paying for the place you're working

so I mean just don't just it's not like I'm just some guy like oh I know at the Colts I'm donating to the damn team Yeah, if I don't like the product. You help me eat every day there. Exactly. Also at every game.

Also at every game. And to that point, like, it's been, this has been the best environment. The Loudhouse has had. And, I mean, shoot, since I've been here since 2018, whatever. Do you feel that? Is it similar to Minnesota? Because Minnesota also, we love the school. We think that's one of the coolest things.

First of all, all the close fans, we have to come up with a chant to do in the stadium. I'm going to put that on you, Pat. You got to come up with something, whether you get on the mic before every game. We need something to turn up the whole stadium. But I feel like, especially that Denver game, you know, first game, the fans are filling us out, okay, what's the season going to be like, okay, successful game. But the second game, home game in a row, that's the first time I felt like, okay, this is different here in Indianapolis. And it's not, obviously, I knew there was good things about Lucas Oil. But obviously, I played in Minnesota, so I knew that that's one of the best invites.

But it paralleled Minnesota playing that game, that Denver game, especially how the game ended. It was one of those times where I'm like, all right, I actually have to speak up on defense and I could barely hear myself talk to my teammates. Okay, let's keep that going. Yes. Let's keep that going. So fans, we have to keep showing up. Players, we got to keep making play. Players, we got to keep winning.

We got to keep going to treatment. Everything. Don't be late. Don't be late. Let's do the process. Let's do it all. But I think what we saw week one when you guys came out as a team, we got to, we got to be on the team. thought that was sick so cool

I love that thought you were maybe going to do that all year thought maybe that was going to be the thing but that was for the boss I respected so then you guys do the introduction for the second game I'm like I hope we're not breaking a tradition and then you guys crushed and it was like at this point it doesn't matter what we do we can come out and play Colts fans are waiting

for this like the Loud House and Luzzo Stadium waiting for this because you got to remember the run with Peyton and the boys that I was very lucky to be a part of then Andrew Luck that run it was like expectations were like super bowl super bowl and then we weren't making the playoffs we haven't won to aFC south and what 11 years or something like that i think it's 11 or 12 years haven't won to aFC south and people talk about divisions and it's like all those things just started piling up i think

on colts fans so whenever we start hearing why this shit's happening from behind the scenes and i don't want to say i speak for everybody because there's certainly a lot of people on the internet who disagreed with me at the time they don't know ball but now it is like everything we had hoped for right and you're a massive piece of that is kind of coming to fruition and just know city this state and everybody will be around you and rally around you and we'll enjoy the hell out of the run alongside of you. So if you want to go ahead and do more dances with Blue, you fucking do it. Yeah, I will. It's going to get more, it's going to get more excravagant. However you say that. I was extravagant. Yeah, yeah. Put a K in there, yeah, certainly.

I was told potentially from source says that that was not a planned out celebration. No. I had that in the back of my mind, do a celebration with Blue, but we were supposed to do a group celebration there with Z, Z, and Kenny. But I saw Blue there so I'm like, all right, the energy is up. Blue is right here. I'm doing the hip thrust. And I got away with the fine

because I don't know how I did not get fined. Well, that's because Blue's throwing his shit on. Yeah, Blue's are thrusting way harder than I was. I'm like, I got it. Find the mascot, not me. Well, Blue's certainly throwing that thing. And he will. He will.

He will. Blue is one of the best mascots in all of sports. Best ever. And he's hot on the football throw from the second level. I don't know how he's made it every single time I've seen him do it. I'm like, that's actually crazy. Well, there's a game to it here because sometimes he'll make it too quick. And people, like, everybody take a look at the window.

Blue is throwing from the sky. You know, and everybody, as people are trying to figure out what's happening, and he makes it on like the second throw, it's already over. Nobody even knows what happened. So there's a fine line there where he's got a lethal shooter at a little bit. He's got to miss and understand it. I understand it now. So there's a little bit of that happening, but he's an incredible athlete.

This one, where you start bouncing around. I was hoping for the kip-up at the end like old buddy did in the original. Aye. Aye. See, my foot slipped because I wanted to be dramatic and go for like 20 more yards. Just like up the whole sideline in front of the dog tunnel. But my foot slipped on the turf. I was like, I got to cut it.

Let me high-five everybody. Like getting my shoulder raises in. How many in the back of your mind at all times, celebrations? I got three a week in case. I need a solo because in case a teammate that I plan a group celebration with doesn't make it to the end zone. I got to hit my solo. Then I got to have like a specific one with like me and Kenny or in Minnesota's, me and Mattelis. Then I need a full team one.

So every week I'm going in there with three on my mind. Chuck Pagano says have a plan. Have a plan because we expect to take the ball. Bingo. First and foremost. We're not dancing for no reason. We're going to run a fake field goal. We're supposed to where I was going to score a touchdown.

And Chuck's big piece of advice was, have a plan when you get in that end zone. Don't look like an actual. I was like, all right, all right. Look like you've been there. I was like, thank you. That's actually a good call. I should think ahead a little bit.

So I had a magic trick I was going to do anyways. I get tough. Yeah, it was going to be a whole thing 15 yards. Vinutero was going to have to kick a 45 yard extra point. Maybe even 50 yard. Oh, well. It's worth the moment. It certainly is.

It doesn't matter. Hey, you're worth every dollar that we've paid you to come here to Indianapolis already. We appreciate you so much. You're the man. Good luck the rest of the season. And thank you for coming to our city. Thank you guys for having me.

Appreciate it. Shout out to Indy for making me feel like at home. You have a YouTube? I saw a camera. Yeah, shout out to YouTube at Cambynum, weekly vlogs of my game preparation and just at home life. So tap in, y'all.

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