The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1417 - NFL Week 4 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Penn State Head Coach James Franklin, Penn State QB Drew Allar, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

On today's show, Pat is live from State College before tomorrow’s College GameDay ahead of Oregon @ Penn State, while AJ Hawk and the boys are back at the ThunderDome, as they recap last night’s TNF game, look ahead to this weekend’s college slate, give Ryder Cup updates, and preview the entire NFL week 4 slate and make their picks against the spread. Joining the progrum to preview tomorrow’s massive tilt against Oregon is Penn State Head Coach, James Franklin. Later, Penn State QB, Drew Allar joins the progrum to chat about his progression, why he decided to come back to Penn State, and much more. Later, 7x National Champion, panelist on College GameDay, the GOAT, Nick Saban joins the progrum to preview this weekend’s incredible college football slate. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here we go. Feel Good Friday, September 26th. I'm A.J. Hawks sitting in for Pat. I believe he's in Happy Valley about to watch a showdown tomorrow night. Football! It's what we do last night to Seattle Seahawks take on the Arizona Cardinals. The Seahawks win 2320 and somewhat of a barn burner it did turn into, I guess. Kickoffs are in question. I think this one had a big impact on this game.

Late in that game, it was a bit of a rough slog. and the game really picked up the last six, seven minutes. But Pat, I believe you have a beautiful setup over there and Happy Valley. How you doing, buddy? Hey, life is good, Don, here. I'm going to be honest, Beaver Stadium is over my right shoulder here. I'm at the Lash building. I think I said it right there.

That's 100% on me, if that is not. Right, it's the practice facility. Has been for a long time. They've got two grass fields out here, a full turf field, full size, everything. And then they obviously have a massive indoor over there with a full field and everything. And then I think this is where all the offices are.

James Franklin's office is literally six feet to my right right now. It's actually directly behind one half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys, Gumpies. That is James Franklin's door right behind Gumpy right there. So when you talk about hospitality, I cannot thank these fine folks enough up here in Happy Valley. And we have a huge one taking place with a whiteout happening. You know, the night whiteout has been something that has been, you know, obviously a part

the football culture since it started, I think, like 2007 maybe or something like that. I forget the exact. A.Q. Shipley was there. He takes credit for it, actually. I think Penn State people should know that AQ Shipley, who was on a call last night for the Cardinals, we'll certainly dive into that. He takes credit for this whiteout becoming a tradition, and it is a spectacle. But anytime a whiteout game happens, normally it's happening at noon for big noon kickoff, which is obviously the biggest game of the Big Ten for each week on Fox. So this is a nighttime top 10 whiteout game with Oregon coming in and potentially trying to steal the white out. They're wearing white jerseys.

They're potentially trying to steal this white out here at Beaver Stadium. And then obviously you've got a Penn State team that's experienced that's been around. Got a quarterback that's been through some big moments. He'll be joining us on this show today. I cannot wait to chitch out with him because the first couple weeks, obviously they haven't been playing the ball that we would have expected Penn State to play. But are they holding things back? And are they gearing up for this game? You know, they've got some OGs out there.

and maybe the big moment is what they've been waiting for to put on their best display and maybe Oregon's in for it as they come into, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we, oh, oh, oh, oh, we, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we, oh, seven, uh, it's going to be pretty crazy. I, I'm lucky to be here, and then last night, uh, toxic table at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. I believe you both were on the Arizona Cardinals, because how many people were on the Seattle Seahawks, and let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP tone.

I think you were just playing the under, right? Yes, I was. Just the under, which is 40 and a half, which you were feeling great. 43 and a half, my friend. Oh, look a little bit. Okay, we got good. We were dancing. You were in a good spot there for a while.

Yes. You know, it felt like the Seattle Seahawks were going to run away with this thing. You know, Marvin Harrison last night, I feel like we watched him hit a potential rock bottom of his career. And I know it's so early in his career to say that, but after last year having a couple different drops, or last week having a couple different drops that were very embarrassing, like very, very, wide open ball sliding through his hands like it's out of a movie and hitting him in the chest and going down whenever he could have scored a touchdown i mean the pressure was mounting on Marvin harrison junior a man that we all have thought would be the next great wide receiver in the

NFL because what we saw him do at ohio state so it hasn't been like that him and kiler haven't really connected as much as everybody had hoped for two number ones going together let's go let's make this thing possible and kiler was targeted him a lot i mean he came out early target him throwing them, kept throwing to them. And then the babble happens with the interception. And I think that's when we all think, yep, this one's over. If this is how this game's going to go, okay, if the Seattle Seahawks are

going to get those types of bounces. And Marvin Harrison Jr. is potentially at a point of his career where it's going to be a make or break type situation. Mentally, this could really bring you down. And then they had some shots very close up of his face on the sideline. It looked like he was a deer seeing lights in the middle of the night. I mean, it was a bad

bad optics. And then late, whenever they needed them, Marvin Harrison Jr. comes through for the team. Marvin Harrison Jr. makes a big time catch. How you doing? Keep it moving. Let me mash you. 20 to 6 in the fourth quarter. And then everybody talked about the moment where he puts his head down.

Obviously, let's give thanks to the Lord for everything like that. It was potentially there he is. There I am. Like that is potentially a wake-up experience for Marvin Harrison, Jr. Him thinking about how bad could it possibly get well? I just bobbled a ball right into the other team's face in prime time. Like this is potentially the worst it can get.

So maybe Marv's back. Maybe this offense is going to be great. But last night, throughout a large portion of that game, it was exactly what we thought, which is this Seattle Seahawks team is very good. They are a very good football team. And I think the people of Seattle are going to be very excited for what's happening. Kind of a transition era for them. But they got some OGs over there, including Jason Mars.

Yeah, misses a kick from 53. And then wherever he needs to come back and make a game winner, he certainly does that for them late. The kickoff, yeah, that's good. It's a good kickstart a leak a little bit, con man. Oh, yeah. thought he was going too. I thought it was going, too. I thought this one was going to be an overtime game.

Holy shit, Kyler's back, but hell of a boot right there from Myers. You think Arizona should have went for two? I heard Herbie talking about it on the call, and he said something along the lines. Like, they have all the momentum. Let's get this to more football. Something along those lines. I can see that, too, because they feel like they're playing better on both sides of the ball or whatever. But, like, I think with all the momentum you have, I think you go for right there.

That's a game that Cardinals normally lose in my eye. AJ. I don't know how you feel, but I think they should have went for two there, just to win this game at home, division, 28 seconds left. I think that's a big time statement. I think that's a great play. And I think at that moment with how they were rolling, I think they score. But then let's get to your point that you made in the open, AJ, that kickoff landing, landing, a yard short of the landing zone, because old buddy is trying to hit a squib here, trying to hit a dirty ball. And I've talked about this a little bit. Those squibs are tough to control the distance in which they go. For me, every time I hit a squib, it actually came down past the 20-yard line, which

was actually a bad thing because it was too quick of a squib. So my squibs were actually ass kicks back in the old day because they traveled too far in the sky before they went down. The squib is unpredictable. A knuckleball is unpredictable. That's why Tim Wakefield, rest of peace, I do believe. I don't want to speak out of pocket. The reason why he was so damn great is because it was unpredictable. I don't even think he knew where it was going. The catcher didn't know where it was going. That's what a squib is whenever you're hit in the middle of a ball. And everybody's going to start trying to do this because it's very difficult to catch. You know, it's going to be on the ground. It's going to work a little

bit. And when that ball hits the ground, bang, we're allowed to have a little bit of action here. So that is the advantage. That is the kick that everybody's looking for. But the issue with it is is you don't know when that thing's going to nosedive. And if it comes down a yard earlier than the landing zone, you might as well just booted that thing straight out of bounds. It goes to to the same place to the 40. So this is a roll of the dice. This is the new kickoff rule. I saw a lot of people saying, I'll get rid of this kickoff rule because it determined the game. It's like, shouldn't that, don't we want it to be an important part of the game? I think that's what we're kind of, we're kind of looking for, like, big moments.

Like, this sucks for the kicker, for sure. And Sam Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jason Myers and the snap and the hold were perfect on that, have to make a play after this particular situation. But this is a part of the game. Like this is now a part of strategy. Like back in the day, we make that happen right there. We tie it up 2020, going out for kickoff. Chuck Paganos coming over to me.

Jim Caldwell's coming over to me. Rich Rodriguez is coming over to me, saying, hey, this ball is through the fucking stanch. There is, there's no return happening here. We don't want this thing anywhere near the end zone. You are kicking this through the back

of the end zone. We are taking a touchback. When it was at the 20, we're taking a touchback. When it was at the 25, we're taking a touchback. I think last year when it was at the 30, we're taking a touchback. The 35 is the line in everybody's mind where the percentages of scoring go up so much, which is why that being the rule for the new touchback is kind of forcing people to hit the landing zone.

If you kick it out of the back, the 35, they're probably still going to score. It's only five yards different than a 40, which is basically the other team scoring guaranteed. So it's much like baseball now. You've got to throw a strike. Like you've got to put a ball in play, and he got to go cover it. So you can't just get out of a game. Like I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. But boy, AJ, people were pissed that that ball landed at the 20.5 yard line, and it goes out to the 40

with what we're about to potentially see in overtime, AJ. Yeah, so I want to ask you, honestly, I know it's a tough kick and the whole squib. You don't know where it's going to go, like, all that stuff. But the landing zone is the 20 to the goal line, right? We're trying to land the ball there. How tough is it for NFL? Can we expect NFL kickers to make this kick consistently, like say eight out of ten times? So the kid Cardi, I think, in L.A., and then the dude in Carolina.

Fitzgerald, yep, Ryan Fitzgerald. Okay, so I think they have very strong legs. so their natural squib is going to travel through the sky farther. If this makes sense, I don't know if this makes sense. So, like, when you hit a squib, you're hitting the fat of the ball, and you're not trying to hit it far. You're just trying to hit that thing to be a knuckler and unpredictable, basically. It's been called a squib.

Now they're calling it a dirty ball. There's a bunch of different names. This kick has been around a long time. It's just brute strength right through the middle of that thing. I don't know if it was my leg swing or my leg strength would travel too far. It would go through the sky too far. It would land too far. So it got to the returner real quick.

Okay. The goal of the squib is that it gets the returner slow. So the thing hits the ground, returner has to bob, but what you're seeing with these things, this has always been like in the game. But now, if you can hit a squib and it goes far, there's some guys that hit it and gets on the ground quick, which is actually a better squib for what it used to be, you know, what the rules used to be. That was a much, my squib was considered ass. Right now, it'd be the bell of the ball.

It would be the bell of the ball. And that's why I like, I'm excited for these guys that have it. But if that isn't what your squib is, and you're also a field goal kicker, you're starting to hit a ball fat. I think there's some, I think there's some ripple effects that are going to come from this potentially in field goal stuff.

I think punters should be learning how to squib kick this. That's what all punters should be trying to do right now. But like, I think it's a big part of the game because you, Ty, I don't know if that's a good metaphor or not.

They had to throw a strike. You've got to throw that thing in the landing zone. Yeah. Like that is what you've got to go cover a kick. Like you have to, you have to get out of this game. I like that.

I like that's the rules. But boy, it did look weird when Niss determined the game. You know, So this is a tough thing for fans, I think, to fully grasp what's going on. Well, and we also, like, we've been saying this now really since week one. Like, hey, guess what? It's coming.

I don't know when it's going to be, but, like, the kickoff rule is going to affect the outcome of a game. And we have it here, you know, already. But, yeah, no, that's a perfect analogy. Like you said, it's like a 3-0 count in baseball. You don't have a choice. Those are the rules. You've got to either throw it right down the middle and extend the bat. And in this case, you have to kick it in the landing zone and then go cover the kick.

That's a perfect analogy. Okay, I like that. So the kickoff is like playoff baseball, you know, and playoff baseball is much better than what the kickoff used to be because the kickoff used to be regular season baseball. You know, so that, right? Yeah. This is good news.

Yeah. We got good stuff happening. Also, I heard baseball is still doing it. Yeah. I was still bringing it. Yep. Last series of the year for every team starts today. So, and we're still going right down to the wire.

All right, that's a lot of baseball. Conman, your thoughts on the game last night. You had the Cardinals. Obviously, it looked like. like it there for about a six-minute period that was possible at the end of the game. You were thinking they should go for two, or what were your thoughts? Honestly, typically I would, but I thought you can't go for two just because the whole time I thought, like, Gannon's the dumbest coach in the NFL.

So part of me thought, can't really go for two of you, the Cardinals, because if they don't get it, Gannon's probably shoveling shit at the circus today. But I thought the Seattle Seahawks were unbelievable. I think Mike McDonald is an absolute dog. I think when you're one of those teams who, you know, has a new coach, you want to see what they got. Mike McDaniel, you know, his first, or Mike McDonald's, excuse me, his first season, they, you know, have a winning season. Yeah, not Mike McDaniel. They have a winning season.

And then they get rid of the quarterback. They tell Gino Smith take a hike and they bring in Sam Darnold after having a winning season as a rookie head coach. So for me, I think Mike McDonald's got the nuts, the size of the globe damn near for what he's done building this team. Back with the kickoff, if you think about it, this is the second prime time game, really, where the kickoff has decided the game just because Vikings Bears, bears couldn't get it out of the end zone. Vikings run it out, you know, two minute warning is wasted. So it is almost kind of the other edge of that sword when it comes to this kickoff.

At what point will we see guys just turn left and kick it out of bounds? That'll be very interesting. But no, personally, I was just really impressed with the Seahawks. and, you know, I thought it was going to be Rams, Niners in that division, and it feels like the Seahawks are going to be the other player in there, too. Now we've got to talk about it, AJ, because we always talk about, you know, like how much the sports books are winning. And, hey, these chandeliers, they don't pay for themselves.

You know, there's money, and usually it's people's money. Last night, what percentage was on the Seahawks? It closed 69% on the Seahawks. Start of the day, 74%, or 76%, maybe it dropped down to 74%, and then 72%, then closed on 16%. then close on 69%. We win, AJ. We beat them. We did it. Yeah, of course. You and I both. We're seeing the board, man. We said last night we're starting off right. We know what was it last Monday night game. I think we got beat. Here we go Thursday. Let's do this.

I love that. Are you seeing the Rotter Cup board? Not good for America. So when we went live, it was not going well for United States or America. Now, we understand what America is as a whole. Okay. We understand you might knock us down, but we're going to come back. Okay, now I did see Bryson Deschambeau lead that entire thing off, driving it to the fringe. He said, where's the fairway? I don't care. I'll, where's the green? Cuts that thing off and starts an electrifying morning at Bethpage for United States versus Europe and another Ryder Cup, which we would all like to see not in football season. But on that note, a nice little added piece of awesome happening during this sports weekend.

The United States are taking on everybody. And it didn't go well after this dry. I mean, there was a putt that was made, and then there was a couple leads. But boy, as this morning round continue to go on, it started to look worse and worse for the United States. We do get one. I guess I see that finished once I come up. That's a big point. That's a big point we got in our last match.

Yeah, Kentley and Zander Shoffley just got this point. Hey, shout out to Patrick Cantley, by the way, coming through for United States of America. Yeah. We've got a baby, thank you, Patrick. Thank you, Patrick. Cantley. We all say thank you to Patrick Cantley for getting us a point and not getting swept, but I don't know if you

read or heard, AJ. I don't know if you read or heard. What's that? There's one particular person that saw the United States of America losing to Europe, maybe at his home office. And he said, uh-uh. Gas it up. Get the chopper.

What do you said? Ty, what happened? The president of the United States headed over to the Ryder Cup And I believe the answer was, we saw it they weren't doing good. And we thought we got to get over there and help them. If the sitting president is trying to go help a golf team, what does that mean? And what was the entire messaging you think the president was sending there? Yeah, I think he basically said, like, listen, you know, everybody loves Keegan.

We love Keegan. We talked about it. Hey, Kagan, pick up the bag. You got to play. You got to play. He forgot about his managerial decisions, too. You know, that's the only, you know, he's a good leader. Not a great leader.

I'm a great leader, so I will be going to not only talk to the boys. I know the four ball groups, I believe, have been released. Ben Griffin was supposed to play with Bryson. Sorry, Ben. That's not going to happen anymore. I will be, you know, stepping out there with Bryson. Obviously, we broke 50 together. You did have your shoes on, I see.

You had your golf shoes. I do you talk your clubs, too? I didn't know the president took you. He had golf shoes on, obviously. Well, you got to go boot on. Listen, Pat, you know better than anybody by golf club. come with me everywhere. You never know when a local muny maybe needs a new course record.

So, yeah, I know a lot of fans excited to see Ben Griffin. He won't be playing. Another guy, Harry English. There's a Ryder Cup. U.S., Europe. Got an English guy you can expect to see his ass on the pie the rest of the weekend. Listen, our boys didn't play great. That's why I'm coming.

That's why I'm going into the team room, the locker room. I'm going to talk to him. But, yeah, you know, listen, Kegan's on the chopping block here. We need to score at least three points this afternoon. Otherwise, everybody's going to be saying, you know, Kagan, you remind me a lot of Joe Biden. We need the other guy. No.

He needs to wake up. He needs to bring the juice. One more presidential decree, free beer for all Americans for the rest of the afternoon. I would like to see people blacked out. USA. Exactly. Shout, you know, slurs at Bobby Mac, you know, calling him a fat bastard from Scotland or wherever he is. We need to capture the juice back at Bethpage.

That's why DJT's coming at town. All right. Well, I don't know if he said all those things, but it did feel that. It was like a truncated version of what he said pretty much. Yeah, maybe they're all thoughts, potentially. Yeah. You know, maybe they're all thoughts at one moment. But him saying I saw they weren't doing good, grab my granddaughter, great golfer.

She might be playing too. I mean, English might be out. And he, who's the other guy on our team that you said? Ben Griffin. exactly that was part of the problem i'm watching these guys to foxy's point yeah i'm watching these guys we have the uh game day production meeting obviously we have rider cup on our phones okay while this whole thing's going on and i'm watching these guys just let us down okay let let the united states down i know it's a long weekend there's a lot but i to exactly to foxy's point the people

that were putting them down i knew more about than the guys that were going down you know it was uh Foxy, how do you feel about what our chances are with how this whole thing started? I thought we were going to steamroll. Greatest win of all time. Deschambeau guerrillas a ball to the green, and then he makes, what, a 14-foot putt, 15-foot putt, I don't know what that was, and walks it in to start that entire thing. We have that flyover, how you do and keep it moving? I mean, the crowd was electric at, what, 5.30 a.m.?

We're seeing videos of them going insane. This is how the whole thing starts. I legitimately thought it was we win all of them what are your thoughts Foxy yeah it was worst case scenario pat because all of those fans were juiced up like you said 5 a.m., they're ready to go

and then what do the euros do the heroes come out and they make a million puts they quiet the crowd no one in New York is loud anymore the American fans that's the run game that's the run game when you're on the road you quiet the crowd early that's what the euros did they had a good plan

and honestly like I said the coolness factor, it's definitely playing today because I knew all those euros and all of them making big plays. And our guys that I said aren't as cool, they didn't play good except for one of them who did get a point for us today. Shout out Cantley. We have more pizzazz coming in the afternoon.

That's for sure. Yeah, DJT. You DJT. You DJ. You're in off five, six minutes, right? JJ Spons, Sam Burns, Cam Young. Those guys have a little bit more pizzazz, a little bit more juice in the afternoon, yeah. Maybe Keegan Bradley's strategy was for us to just get smacked in a mouth

early. I like to do the process. That's the problem. The guy with the most moxie is Keegan Bradley. Exactly. And I love Keegan Bradley. He's a New England guy. He loves being the guy from, you know, or the golfer from the cold area. He completely, respectfully, fucked us because the United States is going to lose.

They're actually going to get the doors. No! Yeah. You can't give up this early. It is so bad. I mean, watching this morning, it wasn't fun. I don't know why I woke up and got all excited about this. Our team is a bunch.

I believe they actually changed the name this year to the United States wet blankets because that's the team that we're basically wheeling out there. If Bradley was on the squad chirping, that'd be great. By the way, I also saw that they did the whole Rider Cup ball or whatever, and all of the guys on the United States wore white sneakers, and the Europe team, they looked great, dressed to the nines, top to bottom. We look like slouches, and we have no bono. Foxy. This is possibly the

worst group of Americans assembled for a sporting event in the history of our country. And I'm bummed out. We make a run. We might make a run. I would say, isn't this like a game over? Isn't this, Pat, something like a football game to where you go to halftime and you're down maybe 14

nothing? And you've turned the ball over four times and they've played their best possible ball. And your coach is thinking, hey, we've played as bad as we possibly can. They have done everything that they possibly can do. There's no way they can play better than this. So we're come out here in the second half and dominate these dudes it was 33 nothing in minnesota indianapolis colts all right and pat peterson comes out and says we need five stops that's all we need

here and whenever you simplify it to just boys all we got to do here is just keep making our puts if you make putts at the rider cup whole crowd that's where it is i mean that's you win you normally those things carry over whenever i saw it was four or five early oh yeah because usually it's tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, and then somebody picks one up. That's usually because people can't make puts. Normally they're rimming out, bang, doing that whole thing. Europe came with their flat sticks dialed the fuck in. I mean, what is the problem here?

I mean, how come, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, everybody that's here. I mean, an institution, I am so sorry. There's a lot of people back there. They get it, they get it. Yeah. Talk about the Ryder, it's a big deal. If they saw, if they saw what was happening, they had to it, by the way.

It felt like everybody was watching. USA Network had day one of the Ryder Cup. There was also a stream on Peacock of Bryson D. Schambeau's group. Really? Really? Just that group? Yes. Yes, I did not know about the streaming of the DeSambeau group.

I may or may not have called some people and been like, hey, is there not, we're, it's 2020, we've got to be able to, right, somewhere? Boom, there's an old cast stream on Peacock right now. cool to be able to, does anybody, does everybody know that, that that's, and then all weekend it's on peacock, I think. So there's going to be, I think we got, we got super coverage, I think coming up, but boy, day one, having to go to commercials, I think a lot of people are not happy about, and then some of the, there's a lot of people loud about the coverage. And I think that's because how invested we are, too, is that what you think? Yes, because how invested we are. Okay, and this is something that happens every two years, we want to see everything. But there's other, like the Masters, you can see every single.

single shot if you wanted. And there's 150 golfers in the field. There's eight pairings out there. We should not be in a situation where we miss one shot and we're questioning, oh, how did they go up one up in this situation? Like that happened a bunch. There was way too little playthroughs and way too many

full screen commercials. That was absurd. Should be all playthers. The audio audio is a problem. They weren't even picking up the off the tee, like the drive sound and everything like that in the crowd. It was a tough first morning for the USA Network. and Team USA as well. I'm starting to think that there's a chance that they told them on Tuesday this week

that they had the coverage. Yeah, and they had to scramble to put everything together by Friday morning. That would make sense. I sure hope not. There's a chance. We need our boys to come out here at 12, about two minutes, maybe one minute from now. We're going to be teeing off right for our second round. Oh, yeah.

Here we are. Big afternoon. We need the fans to get liquored up here. We need the fans to get loud. And we need USA to fix the audio so we can all hear that because we need a little momentum here, fellas. Foxy, one of the problems was the. the liquor stands didn't open until 9 a.m. If they're 10 off at 7, open up the liquor stands at 7 a.m.

That cannot happen. What are we doing? I thought this was America. Liquor stand should be open when the gates open. Bingo. 5 a.m. Booze. In goal. The crowd was getting hyped towards the end because they were all starting to get boozed up.

Exactly. They should be nice and hammered by the time we tee off here in a couple minutes. Absolutely. Especially with this little break we have. Pat, what's going on back there, buddy? I have a guy who's been a coach at a place in a modern air. for 12 years. I have a man who has a team that is currently number three in the

country. I have a man who's hosting college game day and a man who is going to see a nighttime whiteout tomorrow night against the Oregon Ducks. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Nini Lions. James Frankl. You got a fresh cut. You're looking good right now. Hey, I shave my face. Yeah, it's a new thing. Clean-shaven? Thank you.

I did a movie. I did a movie, and for the character I had to have a clean shave and I didn't realize that I have a jawline right now. I'm Irish coach, so when I get a little fat, that thing goes right here. So normally we put that beard on the cover. You're looking good, man. Thank you. So this will only probably last two or three more weeks. I'm getting less discipline as the weeks go on in football.

You know what I mean? Let's talk about your team. Yes, sir. Okay, so the conversation around your squad, I don't know if you know this or not because you stay isolated. I asked him if you knew what was going on in the Ryder Cup. He said he did not know what was going on the rider cup. I broke the news. It's not, yeah.

It's not great for me. Come on. Come on, America. Yes. We need you. Yes, we go on. I don't know anything about golf, but it's time to go. Okay, I appreciate that.

Speaking of time to go, everybody's talking about how first couple weeks of the season, obviously not the greatest competition. So this is the first time we're going to get a chance to see your team. Do you feel like that as well? Like, do you think, are you still wondering what exactly this year's team is? Is tomorrow one of those big tests? Or how do I have you kind of judge your team thus far? Yeah, I think with everybody, right, whether it's in the NFL, whether it's college,

you're waiting for that first big opponent that people describe where both are going to be tested and how you're going to handle that. So we've got a ton of respect for the first three teams that we've played, but obviously this is different. This is the number six team in the country coming into our place, ton of talent, ton of weapons, a lot of success. We obviously played them last year as well. So this is our first true test. I think that's fair. Okay, so when you see this team, obviously we know Oregon and we know of a tight end and we know what Dan Lannings teams are like quarterback though with them with this environment what are you expecting from them on the offensive side of the ball with quarterback Dante yeah and what are you expecting from like

this environment from your team and from their team yeah I love Dante we recruited them out of Detroit out of high school five star number one quarterback in the country and I've been super impressed with his path right in today's college football he goes to UCLA, starts three or four games as a true freshman, chooses to go to Oregon and sit behind a guy for a year. Very few guys are making that type of choice at that level of quarterback, and now obviously he's playing at a high level. Year three, he's got tremendous talent around him. Number one, the wide receiver is a problem. The tight end, number 18, is a problem. They've had our attention all week long, but it's not just them. They've got two really good

running backs as well they got a massive offensive line in front of them so they've put a ton of good stuff on tape a lot of challenges he's been able to retain his coordinators and his staff so this is going to be a real challenge for us in the environment I mean talk about it because so this is an interesting thing I feel like I've experienced a lot of things one of the things that I would like to experience is a night white out game like just because growing up in Pittsburgh obviously in having a lot of friends that are Penn State cult members and just said if I was here you would have been here well I wouldn't let you leave the state huge mistake I won the kicking camp out on these grounds I've heard the story yeah I mean I dominated this thing too I mean I it was

you got eligibility left no I mean maybe they're making new rules I might actually I get five years right okay I think you do too we will take AJ too yeah this could be a package deal with AJ yeah yeah let's do we could but let's talk about this environment yeah it's AJ, did you play in this ever? Oh, yeah, I got beat. I lost a whiteout for sure. It's a, it's a raucous environment. It's an unbelievable experience to play in that for sure.

What are your thoughts on nighttime? I know that's a conversation, but it is real. Like, Ohio State has the same conversation about their big games being at noon every single time. It's just a different environment when folks have all day to get two-duct, or just lights always make things feel bigger. Correct. And listen, Fox has done a phenomenal job.

You've got to give them credit. They've done an incredible job with 12 o'clock games. But the night games are different. You know, we got RVs been coming in since Wednesday. There's already thousands of them out there already, ready to go. They got all day long to watch college football, to get lathered up, get ready to go. And then obviously the first white out ever with two top six teams. So we've been doing this for 18 years and it's first time that this has happened.

So everything that you want is here. AJ, we got some history, brother. What's your question for coach? Coach, your quarterback, Drew Allen. Obviously, I think he's going to come on the show here a little bit later. and talk to us, but what's it like having a guy with that much, you know, that many reps, that many big time situations where he's been in. He's played in the brightest lights. Like, what does that do for your confidence? Not only your coaching staff, but also the rest of your

team. Well, I think the other thing is you've got to live that position. And this guy lives it. He's in the building at 6 o'clock. He's asking all the right questions. He's holding his teammates accountable. He's what's right about about college football. And I think he's got a very very bright future. So experience counts specifically at that position. He's been in these big games. He's been in these big, big moments. They haven't all gone his way or our way, but you learn from that. He's been a proven commodity, and I expect him to play extremely well. I think he plays his best when he's got a chip on his shoulder. If you watch the West Virginia, I don't mean to bring it up, but you watch the West Virginia game.

Feels like it kind of. I'm sorry. From two years ago, he had a chip on his shoulder. He ran a linebacker over. To me, that's when he's at his best. Unbelievable. You were going to fit that in any moment? Is that? Well, I led with, I wouldn't let you leave the state. I led with that. And you're going to get that in there. And then we're going to come back to what happened. Rain Delay, too, the way you guys came out of that in a much smaller locker room. I'll tell you what, that was absolutely depressing. The way Outler's season ended, obviously talked about a lot. Yep. Okay? Not the best way. And you said not all has gone his way. There's only one team a year where every game goes their way. Okay, that is literally how it is. I was excited to

see how Alar was going to respond from that moment. I too had one of those moments at much different position. Miss a couple big kicks in a big game at the end of the season. The whole world feels like it's crashing down on you. And most of the time it actually is. That's right. And then how do you kind of fight out of that? What did you see from him this off season? You talk about living it and being a leader, but mentally attacking that. And then now having his biggest test. Do you think he's prepared? Do you think this is when he's going to show a biggest? And is that a motive like to prove everybody wrong that was burying him kind of. Yeah, well, I think it's telling, right? The guy could have left last year as a first round draft choice.

So if you're running from that, you go to the NFL as a first-round draft choice. He came back. He came back because I think he wants to finish this thing the right way. I think there's unfinished business for him. And he's used it as fuel. The guy is leaner. He was 242 last year. He's about 235 right now.

He's athletic. He's 6 foot 5. He's 235 pounds. He can make all the throws on the field. And year two now with Andy Koldenicki in this offense and those two running backs that we got behind them, there's an opportunity to really, you know, put this, put this team in a really good position in his behalf. Early in the season, but man, such awesome expectations for your team. Honestly, doesn't it feel good for your team to have these types of expectations going in?

And also knowing that it feels like Penn State's one of the schools, just from what I've learned, that we are going to be expectations every single year in national championship. Last year you get a taste of it. This year coming into the season, it has to feel good that you are expected to win a national championship. basically now at Penn State every single year. I assume that's how you viewed life here for the long time, but now it's very real. I think you've got to embrace that, right?

That's why you came to Penn State. That's why Drew came to Penn State. Every single one of our players and coaches, this is why you chose this type of program to play in these type of games and have an opportunity to do something special. So we talk about 1 and 0 every single week, but we don't hide from the national championship discussions.

But as you know, it's critical that you stay focused to one game at a time. process, brother. Let's go to the toxic table back at the Thunderdome. Ty Schmidt has a question for you, coach. Yeah, Coach, with a lot of these marquee Big Ten games in the past, they're very, you know, you feel out the opponent, it's pretty cagey, and a lot of times

we go to half, you know, whether it's 10-10 or 14-10 or, you know, 7-7, low-scoring games, but with this game on Saturday, specifically, with the whiteout and how crazy the crowd is going to be, and also knowing what Oregon can do offensively and how sometimes, you know, those points come in bunches,

how important is it to get off to a start on Saturday. Yeah, I think that's a great point. If you look at Oregon and how they're built and how they play, it's usually starting fast. That opening drive is going to be critical for us and for them. They're used to playing with a lead. If you can kind of change the game and slow them down, then it becomes more of a traditional Big Ten game, but that's not how they want it to be played. So starting fast is going to be really important for us because that's a big part of their identity. I think that's a great point. Is that your alarm?

Oh, whoa. Kind of a banger, dude. There's no doubt. There's no doubt. I'm not a big alarm guy. We don't have an alarm? No, I just kind of wake up every single, usually around five. Yeah, usually around five. I'm usually in the office for 545. Are you a coffee immediately upon waking up or are you a natural as soon as you wake up? Wow.

I just started drinking coffee like four to five years. ago and they were like ice cream sundays now it's black um that maturity that's yeah it's maturity i guess i hate it i hate the black coffee so i'll put two splendies in there now i think splenda's terrible for you from i don't know i don't know i don't want spond of this i don't know but i know you're not getting to n i'll deal with no i know i know i use it every day and then that's why i went to australia they have like a lot of rules on their foods splendid nowhere to be found so was like oh no what are we going to do what am i no but also what have i been to this all you know it was like one of those conversations i just recently became a coffee guy too the nespresso

machine do you have that no we have some machines over there that are phenomenal that i just kind of go but i only drink it we don't have coffee at home we don't have machines i just i only drink it at work put one right on your desk i'm looking at his office this is and it's going to get a shot i don't know who's that guy in the back there who's that's got my boy and what's his name jj j j jr roommate at Washington State. Really? That's my roommate at Washington State. JJ, got a baby.

Yeah. What up? All right. We appreciate. AP Tone has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, I do. Obviously, big offseason news, bringing Jim Knowles in as your new defensive coordinator after Tom Allen goes to Clemson. Obviously, he was with the national champion Ohio State team last year.

He played Oregon twice, looked really good against them in the playoffs. How big is it bringing him over? How's that been? How nice is it having him face them twice last season? Well, first of all, I love the USA hat. You're rocking there. You're looking sharp. Rider Cup.

Remember. Rider Cup. Got to bring it back. Thank you. Yeah. Hiring Jim Knowles was obviously a big one for us, a guy that's won a national championship. We got Stan Drayton on our staff as well that also won a national championship. And obviously what he's been able to do defensively.

If you look at the last two years, Jim's defenses have been as good as anybody and, you know, being able to do what he was able to do against Oregon. You talked about playing. He wasn't necessarily playing, but obviously he orchestrated the defense. And when we had an opportunity to bring him home, another Pennsylvania guy went to St. Joe's prep in Philadelphia. So being able to bring him back home and be a part of our Penn State family was huge. The Ohio State people love that, right, AJ? Didn't you guys love that? Yeah, you know, we got Maddie Patricia right now. Everyone won. Everybody's a winner in this situation. Maddie's doing a great job. He's doing a great job. Okay, for you, How much are you scouting, like Big Ten games obviously very important.

This is a huge building. I don't know how many people are working here for Penn State football, but much like everywhere else that is fully invested in sports right now, big operation. What do you have, how many people do you have working in like scouting department almost? How many people do you have like future team research or recon? Like how, what is the, what is all in here? This is a beautiful facility, by the way. Thank you for the hospitality.

But how many people are kind of under this roof kind of operating every day? We have about 70. We have about 70. But then there's obviously a ton of interns, student interns as well that do a phenomenal job for us. So it's a big operation, whether it's sports science, whether it's recruiting. We don't really break it up like kind of the NFL in terms of recruiting and then, you know, player personnel where you're evaluating other staff. We kind of do it all within one roof. We got about 10 people working in recruiting and they do a phenomenal job for us at GM, Andy Frank, who's got an engineering degree from Princeton. which makes sense to work in football, right? Of course. Yeah, it makes total sense. I think I'd like a Princeton engineer working with me as opposed to working against me. That's right.

That's fair. I don't know if I'd ever think I'd work with a Princeton. You're working with a Princeton engineer. Yeah, yeah. He runs, he's our GM. He does a phenomenal job. Look at you, football guy. Football guy.

Working with engineers. It's a full business. It's a full operation. It's a full operation. And Penn State is operating at a very high level. I saw that you had coach Katie, I believe, from the women's volleyball team, national champion on your show last night.

And then Conman, back at the toxic table, our hockey team fully invested here as well. Kind of the state of the sports here, Connors, what he wants to ask you about? Yeah, Coach, how awesome was it, you know, when you see Gavin McKenna and you see Pat Kraft come out and, you know, they're doing the stadium and they're spending money not just on football, but all the other sports as well. How motivating is that for you to just continue to get better and how excited are you to work with Pat Kraft and not have to ask for anything and more so tell him like, no, it's okay.

need a new $10 million workout facility at this exact moment. Yeah, I'm not saying no to anything, to be honestly. That's not happening. But yeah, Pat's been phenomenal. And I think you guys understand this. But having an AD who played football in the Big Ten, who's waking up every single morning wanting to win a national championship, you feel like he's in the foxhole with you, that alignment in leadership from the head coach,

to the A.D., to the president of university, to the chair of the board, it's critical. And I know you guys just kind of went through this at West Virginia with bringing coach back. Yes. That alignment is critical, and we're in that position right now. And that's why you see a lot of these decisions being made, a lot more yeses in the offseason that we used to get. And they add up, just like the little nose used to add up, too. In the modern world, those yeses matter more than anything, I think. and it sounds like what you guys are doing here with sports.

And Pat Kraft, middle linebacker for Indiana. Neck roll. Dog. Neck roll. And you look at him, he looks like one, too. We're talking blockhead, like a square head. That's back when you could take dudes' heads off, too. That's like, you know, that area.

Yeah, neck roll, running down on kickoff. You're going to see him. He'll be on the sideline. And sometimes I'm a little worried about him more than what's going on the field. He's going to come out and get on the field and get a flag. You need to worry about the players, coach. Not him. I know, but watch him on the sideline.

Watch him at wrestling. like I think he thinks he's going to go on the mat with kale like I forgot you guys have a hundred national champions in wrestling yeah yeah they just don't lose Pat went undefeated his entire career look at look at Pat look at a neck roll that's when you wore shoulder pads that's the athletic director for Penn State that's that's what I'm talking about remember him at the orange ball pat you pointed him out at the Orange Bowl when we were on the sideline against Notre Dame and he was basically forearm shivering guys up and down the sideline before the game started Motivating. Yeah.

He's a psycho. And we got Lavar Arrington as the guest picker. Yeah. I think he was on the sideline down there as well. And his son's with us. We signed his son this year. Lavar, Levar Jr. Smart play.

Yeah, yeah. And you should see him. Stud. Jump in. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That the Arrington family is described.

And that's the highest level. Lavar Arrington. And I think we're going to show some highlights. And his son's wearing 11 for us too. But a lot of pretty good 11s. It's a big number there. Yeah. Micah Parsons.

Hold on. We got a stat about you. Yeah. We got a stat about you being an NFL factory. Great one. Penn State. First round draft picks. Last five drafts, 2021 through 2025.

2021. I don't want to say his name wrong. Adafi Oway. Okay, he went 31st. Micah Parsons, then won 12th in 20201 as well. John Dodson, 16th in 2022. Chop Rodgson in 2024, won 21st. Olu Foshanu.

There you go. One 11th in 2024. Then obviously, Tyler. Tyler Warren goes 14th to the Colts where what I you are how yeah how happy are you about that right now you're welcome yeah you're welcome yeah we saw him hit his head what was that in no say yeah orange bowl no Notre Dame yeah he hits his head on the sideline we were down on the field you know calling it don't matter she got right back up yeah old school you see the flow he's got going on he's and I watch and I'm not gonna bring it up but another team took

another tight end in front somebody took another tight end in front somebody took another tight end in front of that guy. Well, you can say it was the Bears, Coach. Thank God. Duh, Bears. I'm not going to say it. Thank God they did. Okay.

And then obviously, Abdul Carter one, number three. Overall, you've become a NFL factory, which I think Coach Saban talks about a lot in building up trust with high schoolers and families whenever you're selling them on the vision. Hey, everybody wants to make it to the NFL. We have proven we can do that. I think you have that box checked. You obviously have support and alignment from the entire organization. And obviously, this place is going to be electrifying with their family.

feels like you guys got it all up here I appreciate the hell out of your hospitality and thank you for welcoming us in here appreciate you and I hope to see on the sideline at the white out okay come on you got experience what do what do you guys wear during the game we got the coaches or the coaches or coaches we're gonna contrast so we're just being our normal our normal Oregon's trying to steal the white out they're wearing a white jerseys is that normal they're the away team so they always would is that how it always is yeah yeah so so everybody wants us to wear white with the white out but the

reality is you want the contrast so you got the black sky you got the white crowd and then you got the blue contrasting uniforms in front of them. It's great for the quarterbacks too. The white would just blend it all in. Oh, so this is actually potentially a little bit of an advantage. Should they investigate the white?

I hope not. Not before tomorrow at least. I appreciate you. Thanks, man. I appreciate you. Thank you for the time. Boys, back to you as Coach James Franklin literally opens his office door right here behind Gumpy

to go say what's off to JJ. My gosh. Hey, Jay, Jay, Jay. Jay, Jay, Jay, right behind, right behind Coach. Coach Gump right there. That's awesome to see. Tone, what's everybody thinking about this game as far as betters? Do you have any idea?

To be honest with you, a lot of them are thinking Oregon just because of the record recently with Penn State, you know, against these top ranked teams. But Oregon also is one of those teams that has had trouble winning on the road in these big games, too. So it's really like these two teams are going to get a monkey. One of these two teams is going to get a monkey off their back and be in a great seat for the college football. whichever quarterback plays best that's whose team wins, you think? Yeah, probably.

I mean, first game I ever watched Oregon this season was last week and Dante Moore looked unbelievable. What's the deal? Is this a real situation where it's like hey, Penn State was running a high school offense the first three weeks and now they're going to roll out

a new offense? Is that an actual thing? Because it feels as though the conversation around Penn State is they're undefeated. Everyone says they stink but in reality they haven't actually used their real genuine playbook. I'll be 100% honest. I haven't watched state, but people who have said that it's been a very bland vanilla offense.

It doesn't look like they've done a lot of their stuff that they did last year. But then there's people you talk to who are Penn State fans, and they agree with that, yes. But they're also saying if we're running our bland vanilla stuff, we should still be winning by more points versus these schools. You know what I mean? And it's not like you have two different playbooks. Like you install everything in the summer.

But you have a wrinkle here and there. But yeah, there's definitely some, There's definitely concepts that they haven't shown yet, I'm sure. But like you said with the quarterbacks, though, I mean, like, again, you can kind of, you can cherry pick to find whatever stats you want to make your case. But we had that stat about Drew Aller on third down and in the red zone and, like, his QBR. And, you know, a couple of those are the worst in D1 for qualified quarterbacks. Like, you can't be doing that if you're supposed to be a top five, maybe the first overall pick.

So, yeah, like, if he doesn't play well, they're probably not going to win. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of, that's football. How big advantage is it for Penn State's defense at home with that noise? It's pretty serious. Yeah, like it's an awesome, awesome environment. Yeah, being a defensive guy playing there, you know, it affects the road offense, the away offense.

Like that first time they go out there, the first time, especially like let's say Penn State gets the ball and they score first. And then Oregon comes out down 7-0 with the ball. When they come trotting out, that's going to be super duper loud. It's going to be awesome. There's a clip going around right now. I think it was... The McNamara is Michigan.

Yeah, 2021 maybe or something like that. They're playing Mo Bamba right before the first play of the game. Michigan forgets to run a play. They get a delay game with the first play of the game was awesome. Yeah, you cannot replicate that. You cannot do it in practice. Pat, I don't know if coach is still with you or not. Maybe he went right by Gump, gave him five and went to see his butt, huh?

Yeah, we just took a selfie with the coach, you know, had Beaver Stadium in the background with the practice facility here. It's really a beautiful set up. So Beaver Stadium is right off to your right? Yeah, I don't know, actually, if we can get it. Let me see. That's cool. Over that hill?

Hmm. Foilage is beautiful this time of the year up there, eh? Yeah. It's like great. I don't know if it's going to be able to. The same situation is Miami when you're trying to get the pool, but that wall was just in the wall. Oh, there it is. There it is.

Top left window. You see it. They always do a great job. The grass is always beautiful. Beautiful thing, too. Yeah. Yeah, I think you get it. Yeah, there is.

It was part of the press. box i think we see yeah it's back there it is uh it's huge they're expecting a hundred and 12 thousand plus she's that many people heart and you gotta remember when you're flying in here you're you're rolling in i mean i guess this would be the one to show that look these hills back here dude it is just pretty cool in the last like the last 30 minutes of the flight in is just like these rolling hills and then there was a low cloud cover so it looked like it was fog and then we land in here and it's obvious like you just feel the buzz of penn state ball and it's always been like that here always been a football place always in football weekends especially i mean white out weekends are

about to be insanity i i have no idea how these people survive these things he talked about the trailers coming in you have to do that because like to get here it is a you know you got to get in here and it's like here it's not a major it's not just here though yeah it is a lot of bother makers it's not just here though football has a huge ball has a huge weekend a jj we put it onto one graphic here. College football, obviously, we've talked about it. Five massive, massive matchups with national championship and playoff implications across the board throughout the entirety of the day. And then on NFL Sunday, yeah, right. We got eight huge games that start at 9.30 a.m. all the way through prime time where Michael Parsons is heading back to the Dallas Cowboys in Jerry

world. And Jerry actually said earlier today, he said, shit, he is a good player, isn't he? Did we ever want a Super Bowl with him? Did we ever want a Super Bowl? I don't think we ever want a Super Bowl with, did we? I wasn't, was I there? I missed it. Jerry Jones is certainly not shying away from the moment. And we've heard him talk on red carpets about how,

if there's no drama, I'll certainly create some. You know, Cowboys will bring some. This week is a Jerry Jones Super Bowl, for sure, AJ. And I feel like the vibes for ball, especially whenever you add in the Ryder Cup happening all weekend. It's like, we got a great sports weekend. We need to celebrate the shit out of AJ. We've got a beautiful fall weekend, especially anyone in the Midwest, I think.

Now, is Jerry going to cross paths with Micah slash Michael in pregame? Does Jerry roam the sidelines at all in pregame? Do we know? Because the cameras will be on them. Thought he does? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he does. You think they're going to shake hands? You think he'll have a hug?

No. No. Post-game. I assume he says, hello, Michael. Yeah, you're probably right. He might. Just one. Maybe not too much, but just like a...

You think Michael notices that he's been calling him Michael? Yeah, I think he does. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah, I think you certainly know that. I think you definitely would know that. Did you see the situation? Did you see the situation with the suite that he bought the suite for the entire year,

so his family's still going to all the Cowboys games? Are they really? He said there's no refunds. They can't get any of the money back. Now, you got to remember, you got to remember. That's happened to other guys. Like Darius Leonard, remember when he left the Colts. He still had his suite because he was watching the games down in our suite,

the Colts games, like at the same time, and I was like, so you're coming to games, he's like, I paid for the sweet. Did you sub-lease it to some other family or something? I mean, probably, but I assume, like, he has members of his family or maybe people he knows down there that are just probably going to the game, because live games are a great time. The best. Our friends at Seatgeek provide tickets, obviously, at a better price than everybody else, and if it's not the best price for the ticket, they'll certainly tell you that you should go

shop for it elsewhere, and they have tickets to absolutely every. They're fantastic. But these live games that we go to for the Colts, it's such a spectacular event. I couldn't even imagine what this Packers Cowboys event's going to be. Jerry Jones is going to be what we like to call in his bag. He's going to be door dashing every form of entertainment and explosive that he could possibly have. I think we're looking at one of the most awesome nights of football that we've ever had.

Maybe when Peyton had his 1812 game against Andrew Luck and he came back to Indianapolis and they treated as if it was a Super Bowl because it certainly was in its entirety. Whenever you think about Michael going back against his nemesis, Jared Jones, and then NBC sending everything they got that isn't at the Rotter Cup down there to celebrate it the focal point. The amount of behind-the-scenes stories we're going to hear about, the interviews, the sit-downs, the everything that's going to come from this game, it's going to feel like it's a bowl game, like it's a Super Bowl game, like it's a playoff game.

And I'm happy as hell. It's only week four and we're already getting this. Until they actually kick the ball off in the Packers, beating by 30. Yeah, what if Mike against, what if it gets like a pressure and a sack on the first drive? I think there's a good chance. What if Jordan Love is that, what if Jordan Love actually has so much time in the pocket that he actually like starts pointing around like where Micah would have been, you know, like a product who right here is probably where he would and then throws in the middle of the game.

What if you, I'm not saying he's going to do that. He just wants to win. He's going to be focused. It's just in our game. Sonny night football game. But there's a chance that there is a little bit of maybe Dallas not doing well against Green Bay's offense. And then Green Bay's defense doing very well against Dallas's offense. Now, there's a chance

to complete opposite happens as well. It's obviously ball, and emotions can run in different fashions, and people can execute, and Dak Prescott is still Dak Prescott. So let's understand that the Dallas Cowboys are certainly a capable team, but, boy, they've been getting beat up on that defensive side of the ball,

and Green Bay's offense can certainly be explosive, and if there's a missing piece from that defense, that could be fixing everything right now, and he's actually showcasing his shit for the other team against them, it could get loud down there. Ty Schmidt. Yeah, without a doubt. And I think there's also a chance that Kenny Clark doesn't play, which would be kind of just like another double A, the guy you traded for, he's heard already,

the guy you traded away, he has three and a half sacks. And then obviously on top of that, you know, you got issues on the O line with them having guys out. CD might not play. So like, you know, CD probably isn't going to play, I should say. So it's looking to be, you know, it's tough because everyone, kind of like last week, everyone's picking the Packers, everyone's expecting the Packers not only to win, but to beat the shit out of the Cowboys. So I think, you know, there could be a little bit of a, I don't want to say a trap game, you know, a week after losing to Cleveland, but there's a little bit of that there as well. Oh, no, I'm worried about the boys. The floor's got them buzzing. Do you think this is the year

for the Green Bay Packers? AJ, you look around the NFL, and it's like, who's who, do we really know? Outside the Indianapolis Colts, the Buffalo Beals. I mean, that's damn near it. The Eagles? Yeah, bucks. but yeah we're people are still trying to find their identity no question okay so let's talk about what is the packers identity is this defense going to be what this defense has been for the first couple weeks for the rest of the season is that yeah what they lost 1310 right to their defense play unbelievable their defense was still good against the browns the offense obviously was not doing what

they they should do but i know maybe it was a good early wake-up game i know the floor has talked about that who was who on the packers came out and said we can go and rishid walker the left tackle and lefford would not love to hear that so maybe it's good it's a good time to get that early wake-up call to where everyone's patting you on the little patting your little bum and telling you how great you are that's the coach's worst nightmare i think for players to start hearing that you talk about early wake-up call how about the pittsburgh steelers and a minnesota vikings we get a 930 game who do you think how do you think aaron in the steeler's fair there my natural instinct is like man this this could be a very good game for the vikings but then i

automatically think a t-j watch is wrecking the game in ireland because he's in ireland who wants to do that same thing with erred you know it's like this one's tough to kind of forecast i think what are your thoughts yeah it is well first i don't know why i'm always i always assume the field's going to be all mush it will rubbish over there it's pretty wet i don't know what the footing is going to be like but i think either carson wince either has a monster day or he has a really really tough day i feel like it's one of those games for him tywin what are your thoughts the steelers defense obviously hasn't been something you've been super pumped about carson wince looked elite with kevin o'connell's offense is that change in ireland

and i like that you use rubbish for those fields because they have been a bit rubbish Yeah, it had been a fair bit rubbish. I mean, do we remember the Brazil game? And we remember the seams into turf over there as well. But if we know anything, McQuaid will be out there irrigating that field to make sure it is in peak, peak condition. Thank you, McQuid. We appreciate you, McQuid, obviously.

Telling your thoughts, though. The field will be shied. It always is for international games. I'd love that we keep going over there and doing that. Whoa. It's good for the game. Yeah, it's good. tell you what if europe if if europe pounds us with the rider cup no more NFL games in europe

take god agreed with you um i actually feel pretty confident lose you want to keep NFL over there lose start missing these pots boys okay do what you got to do if you want to keep the NFL in europe we're coming up on a hard out tone i apologize that might be the greatest idea that you've ever had to be honest um i actually feel pretty good about it you know carl he did look good last weekend but he was also playing with like a 25 point lead two minutes into the game because there was two defensive touchdowns um that the bangles gave up i actually i feel pretty good good. I mean, Carl's on his six team in six years. I'm pretty sure he's going to turn back into a pumpkin. We have a hard out happening, right? Oh, we got one. No, we got one. We got one more.

Yeah. Fifty-seven. This thing's off a minute. Oh, no. This thing's off an entire minute. That's awesome. That's tough. That's on me, boys. That's 100% on me, boy. I tell him you were talking there and I just saw this clock going. And I'm like, bud, what? See, anybody going to tell them? If AJ was talking during it, that would, that would have made sense, but I understand what I know. I have much more faith in you guys. That's why, like, as it was taking place, I'm looking at this clock. I'm like, what the fuck? These boys, come on boys. Come on, boy.

Come on, boy. Come on up here. 100% on me, I apologize for that. We have 30 seconds done, finish. On the defensive side, I actually feel pretty good. It's the offense that I worry about because of their D-line and defense and looks versus a young offensive line that, you know, it could be tough. So who's going to win the game, Tom? Sealers.

You think? Yeah. Aaron's going to throw for three touchdowns. Yeah. Three, not four? A little optimism. Three's good. Let's see. I think TJ, I think TJ gets after Carson once a little bit. Don't you, Oh, you think he's doing a kick and we think we're having a good time. Yeah, no double ankle sprain.

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second round whatever you want to call it second flight afternoon flight what are we doing we're ahead already three groups are out uh the the first group was scottie sheffler and jj spawn jj spawn was the only one to birdie whole one so they are one up that's what i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about exactly i can't be losing i hear it feels different right i hear it already feels different there's a lot more pizzazz out there ben griffins rocking these sweet aviators. Trump's basically standing on the first tee, shaking all the USA golfers hands and giving them some words of wisdom before

they tee off. So, I mean, good luck, Europe. Nice. What's he saying, Ty? What is Mr. President saying to all the golfers as they're on the tee box, both the U.S. team and the Europe team? He's not saying anything to the European team, but to the U.S. team. He basically was just saying

hit it straight, don't fuck it up, because guess what? If you duck hook one, DJT's bringing his bat out, and he's going to play the rest of the round and i'm going i like that i like i like that he would you bet they for you guys states of america he's got his he's got his golf cleats on right now yep and everybody needs to know that that's for a reason and also is uh yeah this is the pizzazz we're talking about look at scottie saying yeah yeah spawn does it yeah i like that i like everything we got going on over there

we obviously need to turn the tide a little bit speaking of turning a tide last night seattle was kicking the hell out of the Arizona Cardinals and quite a dud of an NFC West game on Thursday night football with Kirk Al, Kaylee Hartung. And I think there was a somebody coming all over the field reference from Andrew Whitworth and then Richard Sherman reaction to that maybe we should get from the pre or the post game

that kind of slipped through the cracks I did see last night as I was watching. I love the way they present a game. I like the quality of the game. I like that Amazon has set a standard for streaming games that has been really high and has been since the beginning. I also know that some of these Thursday night games have been shite over the years,

and this one felt like it was going to be one of those. This one felt like this morning what we were going to talk about is, should Kyler go play baseball? Is he missing? Is Kyler missing a baseball career? That was literally still at this exact moment. Herbie actually said something during the game last night, whenever his baseball accolades because he was drafted, what,

top 10 in both NFL and MLB, is that right? Yeah, correct. He was seventh in the MLB, I believe, and obviously number one in the NFL. yeah i don't know if he's the only guy i assume deion would be another guy that could potentially have that i don't know if he drafted i don't think he was top 10 is that elway or maybe yeah kiler i think at least in the last you know 25 years since this has become more popular where they just draft guys like he's the only one who is like sure fire yeah this guy would be an all-star playing baseball and he could be a league MVP playing football okay so last night kirk herb street who also

loves baseball kirk herb street was supposed to play baseball but his dad coached football at Ohio State. He's from Ohio, have to go be the quarterback of Ohio State football team. But I think, AJ, you went to the same high school he went to. He has all the baseball. He was like a baseball guy. Still is baseball guy. Obviously, great leader of men, great quarterback for Ohio State. But baseball was like his thing. He's big, too. I mean, it feels like that potentially what he's, he loves the sport, right? Absolutely. Huge. Huge Reds fan as well, has been for a long time. Yeah, how the Reds doing? I don't know. That's a whole another conversation. Still live. Still life. Really? Still got life. Still got life.

Okay. Okay. Still got red legs on the season, I guess. But Kirk loves baseball. So I think he's always been intrigued by the Kyler could have been an MLB guy. Because I often wonder, like, if Kirk thinks about what he could have been as a baseball player as well. And he was very careful last night whenever he said, yeah, everybody said that Kyler could have been incredible baseball. And then he said, still could be an incredible baseball player. And it's a crazy thought to think about that because he's had already an entire career here with football. in the NFL. He's gotten a second contract. He's made over $100 million. Obviously, how it's all gone is how it's all gone. And then you start thinking yourself, this guy's still young enough. He could have a baseball.

Ty, am I outlandish for thinking this? He could still have a bit of a baseball career. I'm not saying he should, but I'm just saying, if an opportunity was to present itself where this football thing maybe feels as if we're not going to be able to win a Super Bowl, which I'm not saying at this moment just because of a Thursday night football game. I'm not. But let's just say we get to that point.

He's a guy that could drop into baseball. Let's say he'd still been hitting balls. Like, let's say in the off season, he's still hitting balls. Is there a chance that that is even possible or feasible with somebody like Tyler or a talent at all? Well, that's the big thing, because I think baseball, my guess would be is very similar to golf in that sense, where it's like, if you're not doing that stuff, if you're not taking BP a lot, it'd be very difficult to just, no matter how much talent you have, to take six years off or whatever, and then see MLB pitching. But there have been guys, specifically quarterbacks who have done it before, like Drew Henson was at Michigan, he was starting, you know, ahead of Brady, and he was like the number one recruit in the nation, you know, coming in, played quarterback at Michigan. Michigan got drafted by the Yankees, went and played baseball, that didn't work, and then went

back. And then obviously, you know, you have the inverse of that with some guys like Whedon and who, you know, try to do baseball. It doesn't work. Go play football. So I think he, I think he could, but it's one of those things where he, I don't, he's not going to be the guy that he was when he got drafted seventh overall, because that's just a lot of time where he committed his life to football. He hasn't been playing baseball. So, and it's one of the, I, who knows if you could have the patience to know, like, okay, well, guess what? I'm, I'm, when I come back, I'm probably not going to play in the majors right away. Like, does a guy

who's been making $150 million or whatever, does he want to ride around on little buses and double A and stuff? Like, I doubt that. On that note, on that note, we have a video of Kyler here. He's taking on Texas A&M, Corpus Christi Islander, 7-6, bottom of the 7th.

Oh, yeah, that's a grand salami from Kyle Murray. Okay, that's what that is. And you obviously talk about his arm talent. He can spin it. It's like, Like, that'd be a crazy sports story, honestly. That would be a crazy sports story if he was able to pull it off. But that's the type of athlete we're talking about, which is why I think we all believe in the Cardinals potentially just flipping a switch and being great.

You know, and that's kind of what they did last night. At the end of that game, they flipped the switch. That'd make Bride guy. I love the way he's done. Oh, so good. He looked like he should have had a punctured lung, maybe a concussion. And every time he gets up and we're talking at the beginning of the game, like, feed me more type of shit.

It is a, they've got a great vibe. over there. Losing James Connor is obviously a massive blow. But that Seattle Seahawks just domination and then a comeback like that at the end is kind of how we feel about the Cardinals. Can they piece it all together, right? Isn't that kind of the conversation about the Cardinals? And it has been kind of with Kyler throughout the entirety? Yeah, they need to find a way to, I don't know. I guess they got to make a deep playoff run for us to truly believe that they can like, you know, take that next step. I mean, we know they have talent. We know Kyler's fun to watch. But when you mentioned that, like, I just think of Sam

Donald too, though. We're going to Sam Donald Statlin, what, 18 to 26 for 242 yards in the touchdown. That's about the stat line they probably want from Sam Donald, isn't it? Like, we don't need you to go put up 350 and three touchdowns. You do this, you take care of the ball. Like, we're going to do great things. He got a little tight there late. I didn't love that.

The play action for him is a weapon. He is very talented. A.Q. Shipley called the game for the Cardinals last night. So I got a chance to chat with him after our show. Would have been nice to chat with him before the show. But he said, hey, what Sam Donald is doing to everybody, is play action. Classic play action. They get Kenneth Walker back there.

Obviously, they have a run game. They like. They have a great defense. He's eating and feasting. And I forgot Sam Darnold could do this. I even did the GIF. I did the GIF about like Sam. I had no idea that he had. I think maybe, did we understand that?

Did we all know that Sam Darnold had that? I didn't fully comp. I don't think I knew that. A little, but not like that. It's like Deceptive, like Baker. Like they're not fast, but they can get it done. Why is it deceptive? What do you mean?

because they're not super fast. They don't run as much. Oh, okay. Hey, how about this, AJ? You can say it about Patrick Mahomes, too, I think, right? Yeah, he's deceptively fast. You're right. You're right.

I think he's much more athletic than he gets credit for, mostly because of photos of him showing up. But, like, Patrick Mahomes will do this. I didn't know Sam Donald had this. Danny Dimes will do this type of thing, but he's an elite runner. You're right. Baker will run and do it if he has to.

You've got to be able to move in the modern game. In a modern world, we just got a stat here. most wins in one possession games in the last two seasons Patrick Mahomes is 11 and 2 they played a lot of close games last year where they continue to do that this year we shall see Jalen Hertz is 10 and 2 Matthew Stafford's 9 and 5

and Sam Donald in the last two seasons in one possession games 10 and 2 as a quarterback it's he has uh I mean he's a guy dude watch him less and you were right I forget who brought up maybe Connor about McDonald he's an intense looking guy pretty jacked on a sideline too AJ I don't

think I I don't think I fully have had a McDonald experience, you know, just because of how it all went down. I like the way he operates on that sideline. I like the moxie of that team. I like how sophisticated that team is. I like how hungry the defense is, even when they're not going to ball out of their own hands after a turnover on first or second drive. I really enjoy the Seahawks team.

I enjoyed watching him play football last night, AJ. Yeah, McDonald has a, he's got a presence about him. I think I've mentioned on here, like, I feel like your head coach needs to have, like, a presence to where it's like he walks in the room. You don't have to be a big loud dude or whatever, but we need to know, like, this is the guy who's coaching the squad. this is the guy who's in charge. McDonald definitely has that feel.

I don't think his guys play that way. I think Seattle, like the team in general, probably feels like, hey, no one, no one's talking about us. No one really cares about us for some reason. So we need to go out there and make some noise and win a bunch of games. Now what, they're three and one, right? Here we go.

McDonald's 9 out of 10 road games, right? Yeah, he's the fifth coach ever to win 9 out of his first. Yeah, there it is, 10 road games. That's pretty impressive. That's insane. The guy's a player, got his team rallied. Remember, they did, did their rookie show as an away game. Remember they? Yeah, last year out that little

thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took that thing downtown out in the public after they painted over all the walls and kicked Pete Carroll out of town. I thought that was a, I thought that was an aggressive move, just to go out into the city and see how it is. But I think that's McDonald. I think he's, I think him and the boys are won. I think they're a good squad. And you talk about that NFC West over there. Purdy's taking first team reps of practice. There it is. He's back. You go, Brock. Congratulations, Brock Purdy. He's, it feels like he's back being the starter for San Francisco 49ers.

We assume he's gonna get back in there and just slice and dice like Brock Purdy does. No boasts on the defensive side of the ball. Will they make a play for another pass rusher before trade deadline? All eyes are on the Niners to do that. Obviously, he looks like he's not full strength, but who is at this stage, especially at his position coming off what he is? What are your thoughts on what the Niners are going to do over there? AJ, obviously it's a lot of money paid to that quarterback.

Do you want him to get fully healthy or do you want him to go when he can go. I think it's two different mindset. I want him to get fully healthy as a fan of his and a fan of just watching good quarterback play, but if I'm Brock Purdy, I'm getting back as soon as I possibly can. Like, I'm not letting Mack Jones come and start another game. I want to, I want to get out there. I want to prove the team right. Hey, you gave me this big old contract. I'm going to prove you right. Like, that's what I want. Don't let anyone else take your spot or stay in there. We know, like, yeah, no one's taking Brock's spot. But Mac stepped in and played well, so I don't know. I mean, Conman, McCorkel Jones might have had a full resurgence out here, huh?

This might have been a turning point for him with the Niners. I wouldn't see what McCorkel at all. It feels as though if they are both kind of banged up, which, you know, all reports is the situation that you probably would lean Purdy just because he has had some rest. Don't want to get him back too fast, though, because then he's out for the year, and he probably doesn't want that because McCorkel's getting $150. I'm not sure if you guys actually heard on the broadcast, speaking of Purdy. Sam Darnold, I guess, gave Purdy a bunch of credit for his resurgence in Minnesota last year.

So when you're thinking about Mac, especially now, like all of a sudden, Brock Purdy might be, and Kyle Shannon, of course, but they might be these guys that are, you know, QB whispers helping out these other QBs. So personally, whether it's McCorkel or Brock, I feel good about it if I'm the Niners and now more so. I have full confidence in McCorkel Jones being the quarterback of, you know, throw out any of these teams who have a poopy quarterback or the Vikings who are going to try it with Jay J.J. McCarthy every year for the next three years and screw it up every year. But I feel like the Niners, I feel good about the Niners in their situation. The two QBs, no QBs, it feels like this might be the first situation, two QBs, two QBs, they can win with anybody. Yeah, and if Brock Party comes back and does what Brock Party does,

McCorkel Jones made himself a lot of money because there's going to be a team, to your point, that has a poopy quarterback and is going to want a good quarterback. And if you put some good tape out there, especially in that Shanahan offense, which other offenses kind of mimic and have similar styles, traits, and I think

languages, it's like Mac Jones might have just made himself so much money in being the bell of the ball this offseason in the free agency, but Danny Dimes is only on a one-year deal to. For now. Let's remember that. Let's get that one done sooner or later. You know, let's think about getting that one done sooner than later.

So Danny feels right at home, you know, and maybe because he feels so at home, maybe gives a little hometown disco, maybe, you know, maybe. He likes having a good old line. He has got paid. Yeah, let's build this team up. Yeah, he has gotten paid. Let's build this team up. We understand what other teams are going to say to you, the same exact thing that we are going to say to you.

It's like what the Colts were before you got here, brother were a lot of talented players, but not an actual team. You were literally the glue in the straw that stirs the entire drink with maybe the best. team in the entire NFL right now. This Indianapolis Colts team is going to be a fun story to follow along with, especially with Jim Mersay's passing right before the season, kind of like the win for the boss, basically, is what everybody's doing. And it's beautiful. And this guy has earned himself another probably couple hundred million dollars. And that's the NFL, baby. Hey, that's the NFL. And that's why you're a Hall of Fame nominee. That's why right there.

One thing I want to remind you, Pat, I want to remind you and all the rest of the Colts fans and the people that have jumped on the Colts bandwagon, if they do lose a game and say he doesn't have a great game and throws an interception or two, don't just flush him down the toilet and say he's garbage. You know how it works. You know how it goes. First time they lose, you guys are,

oh, we knew there were frauds all along. No, age, it feels like that's what you want to say. I do not. I don't like the roller coaster that is the NFL fandom. I don't get it. I don't like that. Just stick with them if you like them. I'm just understanding that this program potentially uses that technique

to say stuff that they want to say you know did you hear that voice yeah yeah yeah it's kind of like his first day here almost huh a yeah yeah yeah i guess so yeah i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to be the one to say other people are going to say it but danie times plays average one time they're going to say it's a fraud like that's yours is that what you're saying that's on me age do you know i want to believe those guys got these guys got contracts too they might jump a route and make a play once or twice that doesn't mean it's his fault you're right you're right we got to remember that danny dimes is always on time we got to remember that indie danny dimes is in his prime we got to remember that danny dimes is the man even if he throws a couple

you know shite footballs and uh that's going to happen throughout the NFL season we have one turnover no i don't know if one punt zero turnovers one so it's one turnover okay which was a punt basically that's the only time we surrendered the ball and uh i love that we are firing on all cylinders, but it's really, we got a lot of football. Yeah, but that's, like, you also beat a good team, though. I feel like sometimes teams do start out 3-0, and it's

like, you know, we talked about the NFC West, they all played the Saints, and I'm nothing against the Saints. Saints are the worst team in football. So, like, when you look at the Colts, the Colts were down at home against the Broncos, they come back and beat them. The Chargers basically did the same thing, just squeak by them. We think the

Chargers are legit. I mean, they beat the shit out of the Dolphins and the Titans, but you guys talk about it. Like, the games are supposed to win are sometimes the difficult games to win. Like, they are just handling business across the board. Like, they might lose to the Rams. Rams are really, really good. It's on the road.

Honestly, it might be a good time to lose if you are the Colts, but, like, I'm at the point where, yeah, I'm at the point already. We're thinking of 17 and up. Yeah, keep winning. Keep winning. I'm not saying, I'm not saying go out there and lose. But, like, even if

they do, I'm at the points where it's like, I think we can damn near crime the Colts as the AFC soft champs and let's see what they can do going forward. I'd like to hear that because we haven't been able to say that for a long time. Yeah, C.J. Strouds, C.J. Shites now. 2014 was the last time they won the division, I think. 11 years. So hopefully they figure it out. Let's talk about Jaden Daniels a little bit.

Obviously Marcus Marriota comes in with Cliff Kingsbury and does his thing. The commanders all the way back as a real team, I think we'll all agree after an incredible run. Jane Daniel says, it's up to the doctors. When asked if he's playing, we have the video here. It's up to the doctor. Not my decision. For you? I mean, where do you think you're at?

I feel good. Nailed it. He feels good. Also, Terry McLaren has been ruled out for Sunday, as Adam Schaefter says that Jaden Daniels also out for Sunday's game versus the falcons. So some breaking news out of the commander's operation. Jaden Daniel seemingly wants to play. That's what I heard, AJ.

Did you hear that? Absolutely. He definitely wants to play. Okay, so he wants to play. Doctors are telling him one more week. We'll probably be in a much better spot. It's still early in the year. He, though, also saw Marcus Marriota and his team do what they did

and wants to get back out there with the boys and continue to get better, which I respect. Terry McClureen also ruled out for Sunday. What's this from, Tone? Do we know what this is from? From Terry. Was it a court injury or something? Yeah, because it was after last game or whatever. But yeah, he's out.

Jaden's out. They're two and a half point dogs going down to Atlanta who did not look good. But with Jaden, the whole thing, like we were just talking about with Brock, whether you bring him back right now or if there's a worry about Luz. There is no worry that Marcus Marriota is ever going to take Jane Daniels' job. So if that's something that's in his mind, I don't think it should be. He is the future of that franchise, and they're treating him like the future of that franchise and making sure he's 100% healthy before they bring him back.

That's what the doctors are saying, AJ. You know, sometimes the doctors and players certainly have different views on things. I like that Jaden in this era, okay, with all the information that we have, if you get another six days of recovery, which is another six days of hydration and nutrients, and if we supplement some of your blah, blah, blah, blah, we might lower the inflammation even more. And there's a chance that you feel better than you felt before the season here in seven days if you just rest this game.

There's a chance that that conversation was had. Okay, that is the world of the doctors. I like the voice that you gave those doctors. I wish I got to pop some glasses on too to really do it some justice but you know what I'm saying that that person has a job and thoughts as well and with modern medicine and modern modern knowledge which 15 years from now something will completely contradict what we believe wholeheartedly in right now that seems to be the nutrition body does anybody know shit about fucking that entire thing I'm not 100% sure but jaden following up and saying like I still want to play like I respect that

I like that that's still happening. I think that tells us everything we know and need to know about Jaden Daniels and the type of player he is. But it's a bummer that he's out for. And Terry McLaren had a quad injury. He went and saw some other doctor. That one's interesting.

I hope he gets back early. I mean, I don't know what it is. Let's talk about some other injuries as well. John Horibaw talking about a staple for that defense. He is concerned about NOMDI. Matibouquet. Matibuque. Matibuque.

I might be wrong. Madabouquet, I think is what people say. We apologize for getting it wrong, Nomdi, if we do. Hell says, I am concerned about it, but I'm not in a position to comment on it. I haven't been given the OK to comment on at this point. He's not going to play this week. I can tell you that. He's a massive piece of their defense.

I don't love that quote, AJ. No, it makes me, yeah, I don't know how serious it might be, but he's saying he's definitely not going to play this week. Yeah, and there's been some stats coming out now, too, about the Ravens defense with him without him on the field. I believe they've given up like zero 20 plus yard runs and one 10 yard run while Matabuque is on the field. And I think that was the games he played in last season. Hopefully that is the first part of that set.

The second part was I think they've given up five 10 yard runs and 3 20 yard runs already this season. So Madabuque, you talk about like those players on defensive lines like a Vita Vaya, like a hutch, like a Micah, even though Mike is striding by other guys that are getting much better. he is their entire defensive line when it comes to stopping the run and then you add Kyle Van Noy, their leading sacker being out for the waves. When's he coming back? Do we know? I'm not sure. I believe both

of them are this weekend. So it's one of those things where you get two of those guys out and now all of a sudden that entire defense just looks like absolute shite. This is a part of it all throughout the NFL season. It's so long. Whoever can remain healthiest is also a part of the story

of who can be the best team. Hopefully everybody gets better. And I I missed that universe ball that said there was going to be no more injuries. So it's 100% on me. AJ, the Hoffnam, will be shooting one at the end of the show to maybe turn things around for the good of football. Speaking of the good of football, Coach James Franklin saying this man's praises earlier about a couple points that I don't think have been brought up nearly enough. This man, who's a quarterback for the Penn State Nittany Lions,

chose to come back as opposed to going to the NFL, had a job to be finished, and he's certainly here to do as such. He's been sitting in this room for the last 11 minutes. I had no idea. That is 100% on me. Ladies and gentlemen, starting quarterback for the nitty lines. Ladies and gentlemen, Jewel.

Yeah. Drew. That made Drew. I beg Drew. I beg Drew. Appreciate you, man. How you doing, dude? You are a big dancer.

Big son of a bitch. I don't like this at all. This guy's gigantic. Let me tilt this up a little bit. There you go. Get Gumpie's hat. Please, dude. Unbelievable.

Thank you for joining us, dude. Appreciate you. me okay so i don't know if you heard what james franklin said uh last hour but he literally said everything you want in a quarterback this guy embodies it whenever it comes to leadership when it comes to work ethic when it comes to mentality obviously the frame and everything's about it what do you what do you love about the quarterback position uh as the most and how do you feel as the quarterback of the nitty lines with your coach saying all of those things about you yeah obviously i feel great about that i think i we have the best head coach in the country

um and he's a big reason why i came back obviously i had that decision to make last year but chose to come back for unfinished business and to play another year under coach franklin he's a part of the reason why i came here in the first place but i think just playing quarterback i kind of had that untraditional path to it just started in eighth grade freshman year so the reason i started playing it honestly was because we didn't have one my freshman year so i always grew up playing baseball loved uh throwing the football and baseball in my backyard with my dad so that's what kind of got me into it okay well we appreciate the fact that you're an ohio guy through and through. We need a quarterback. Well, shit, let's put this guy in there and it certainly

has worked out. When you think about the team this year, first last year, what do you carry into this year, maybe experience-wise from last year? And what this year do you think you guys maybe have that you didn't have last year? Yeah, I think experience is always the number one thing. I know for me personally going through everything that I went through last year, the highs and lows that are everything, just being able to be in those situations and learn from it and grow from it, whether good or bad. And I think I can say a lot about that with all the guys on our team. Obviously on offense, we returned a lot of guys. And I think, you know, one difference that we got, we just added, we added players into our team, whether through Porter or high school that

are going to make a big difference for us. And I think we have a great team that's all about winning no matter what. Like, I don't care if I have to throw the ball 50 times or hand the ball 50 times off a game. It's all about getting the win at the end of the day. That selflessness is awesome. And that's what Coach Franklin was talking about with you and your mindset and being a teammate and everything like that. You mentioned the highs and lows of last year. I talked a lot about it. I don't know if you heard us talking about it. I, much different position than you, end of season, had a bad game, junior year, had to deal with that all offseason coming into my senior year. Much different position, obviously, much less operation, but still was all that I

really thought about. For you, how the season ends for you and for the team. Off season, how do you attack that? How do you approach that? And what was your mindset? Yeah, I mean, just going back to the grind, I think going back to the basics is how I've always operated, no matter if I had a great season, average season, or bad season. I think, you know, that game last year left a bad taste in my mouth, and I think that can go for a lot of guys in our team. And that's a big reason why we all came back, because we knew we had unfinished business in, you know, a couple of our games last year, and we were close to accomplishing a couple of our goals, and we fell short of them. But now it's about having another opportunity to potentially reach those goals and write

those wrongs. All the goats have had shitty moments. You need to know that. When the world feels like it's potentially crashing on you is actually whenever you can harden yourself the most. I'm happy you chose that way, as opposed to letting it beat you. We're pumped that you're back here at Penn State. AJ has a question for you, brother. Yeah, Drew, we had your coach on a little bit ago, and he always brings a bunch of energy, a bunch of juice. What's he like on game day?

I've seen him go back. He's not scared to give it to officials. He almost fought a guy. Yeah, you guys might be up 70 points with 20 seconds to go, and he's going crazy. Yeah, fans run off the feeling. But what's he like game day from pre-game all the way through the game? How much interaction do you have with him as well?

Yeah, we have a lot of interactions with him. throughout the day in our hotel, especially with a night game coming up, we'll have multiple walkthroughs and that sort of thing, meetings throughout the day. So, you know, he'll be interacting with all the players throughout the day. I think, you know, really he's pretty calm when it comes to game days, but really intense and intentional with everything, especially the little details that kind of add up into, you know, big things over time. I've caught a couple strays from him when I'm not in the game when things don't go right on the field. But, you know, that's what makes him great. And that's what's what drives us as a team.

talk about the night white out how excited are you guys for this this is like legendary shit around here now you're getting a chance to experience one two top six teams first time ever your thoughts on it all yeah really excited i mean there's nothing like it i think you know i came here as a recruit uh during the white out when it was a auburn up here um right after covid so you know that was a electrifying stadium um and obviously been uh grateful to be a part of three whiteouts the past three years and there's really nothing like it i think you know if you're a sports fan in general no matter the team you are going to a white out is definitely a buggy bucket list thing that you have to get off your bucket list.

Pittsburgh native and friend with a lot of Penn State cultist AP tone has a question for you. Yeah, Drew, I was listening to you talk at Big Ten Media Days this summer, and I believe you said you sat down with new defense coordinator Jim Knowles when he got there, and you guys went over game tape from your game against Ohio State and kind of how they attacked you. How weird was that and how beneficial was that to kind of hear that from a guy that you went against the year before? Yeah, obviously it's kind of, I don't think you really experienced it. all when you're in the position that we're in. But obviously, very fortunate to have Coach Knowles here. I think he's made us better offensively, obviously being able to learn from him,

and obviously he's made our defense really good as well. And I think, you know, it's always been a great challenge of us going against his defense. And I think that's what, you know, was exciting me about when he, when he joined our staff, is just being able to learn from a great defensive mind because obviously, as a quarterback, I see the game more through the offensive lens than anything and being able to learn from, you know, such a great coach that sees it maybe a different way and just picking up tells and just different things that they did against us that were successful and why they wanted to do things were was really beneficial for not only me but really our whole offense and our offensive staff choosing to go get information from him and pick his brain

though is a good trait not everybody's doing that which i think you should acknowledge as a good thing you know that is a not everybody has that mindset to go let me try to learn as much as possible or the stick-toitiveness because that takes time to learn how often are you what is your schedule what is your schedule around this building is beautiful it is yeah it is uh i mean i'm in here all day there's really i only got one class online class what is your major what is your major uh r ptm basically sports management but yeah so i yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we're gonna be the best ever at that too r ptm yep yeah yeah i think that would have been my major as well around here and it wasn't

Except I'm happy you are here. This place is beautiful. Obviously, we've got the two massive fields, the turf field, the full field, and the indoor. I assume everything else is state of the art around here. It's beautiful. This is your home, though, huh? The whole team like that? You guys feel like you hang out here a lot.

How's the chemistry of the boys? No, our chemistry is top-notch for sure. I think, you know, the one thing that's special about football is just the locker room in general. And we always talk about how fortunate we are to have all the, obviously, like, guys like you come here and be a part of our family now. and then obviously have all our lettermen that are either done playing football at the NFL level or owning businesses or guys that are playing the NFL come back and always trying to just talk to us. I think, you know, I have great relationships with guys that are either, you know, just out in the business world or in the NFL world.

And it's really cool to have a brotherhood like that. You guys don't play cards, right? Your generation doesn't play cards? Not much, no. That's sad. I don't like them. It's that damn. It is that damn.

It is that day. You've ever played yuker? You're from Ohio. I've never played yuker no that makes sense that after playing with people from ohio that does make sense let's go to the toxicity yeah that's you a j that's who i'm talking about i'm talking about the way youka for 30 years bro yeah yeah cheating that's you've been cheating if you go back home to ohio and they ask you to know it's not if they ask you to play in a yuker game if all of ohio plays like this guy they're going to cheat they're going to be looking at your cards they're going to be dealing from the bottom of the deck they're going to be talking to their partner just know that ohio is a cutthroat card you're going to be looking at your cards place. Yeah, you've got to find a way to win. Okay. There we go. This guy isn't even a toxic table.

Connor has a question for you, Drew. Yeah, Drew, you mentioned the previous whiteouts and we all see how electric the atmosphere is on game day. What's it like leading up to it? Are there stuff, you know, all throughout the week on campus that's kind of amplifying the game on Saturday? Do you guys, like, round up a bunch of ducks and, like, beat the hell out of them to get motivated to beat Oregon?

I'm just trying to get a, is it a pet rally type vibe? What's it all about this week at State College? Yeah, I mean, you can definitely feel just the anticipation for the game building up throughout the week. I mean, if you go out to the country, you'll see just a bunch of RVs already parked out. I think they really started on Wednesday, just started camping out there.

And then, you know, quarterbacks and tight ends went over to the stadium yesterday at Netanyville to bring pizza to a couple of students, or a lot of students, not a couple, but camping out for the game and just bring them pizza and provide them some food. But you can feel the anticipation really for every game day, but especially the whiteout. They're sleeping on cement outside of stadium, right? That's what Nittanyville is?

Yeah. Intense, yep. Awesome. I love that. AJ, you got the last question for Drew as he gets back to preparation for the DOCS team coming in from Oregon. Yeah, Drew, how do you, we talk all the time about getting out to a fast start. We asked Coach Franklin about all that. What do you do as a quarterback?

Because obviously quarterback, yeah, you're juice. you feel the energy, but you have to kind of calm yourself down. You have to figure out, all right, I need to dial in and I need to almost like calm myself to start this game. What do you do, I guess, before a game, pregame to really feel you are where you need to be? Yeah, I think for me, it really starts really on Monday. And then obviously with Coach Kay here, he does a great job of, you know, given openers to really the whole staff. And then he has me rank my opening plays of what I would want to call first to early in the game. So I think that really helps me going into it because I already know.

know what the first handful of calls are going to be in certain situations and, you know, opening plays and that sort of thing. But I think on game day specifically, I listen to a ton of music and just try to state. Who we listen to him? Yeah. Drake. Drake, all day. All day. All day. Champagne, poppy, all day. Yep, all day. From the moment you wake up, what are we having for breakfast? Got a little eggs out there? Yeah, like a little scrambled omelet. Okay, then we take a nap? No, we got walkthroughs, and then I don't like napping on game day. So I'll just watch college football all day and just just reviewing notes okay i like that well good luck tomorrow we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your day here to stop by and say what's up thank

you for the hospitality and i appreciate your mindset through it all man appreciate you've had to battle and that's a good thing not a bad thing yeah i'm excited to see you battle tomorrow this place is awesome they love you too when he walked in here there was a lot so i had seen more people in a buzz in the room for like 10 minutes i was like wow everybody's just fucking moving into this room it's because he was here obviously that's a rock star we appreciate you Thank you so much. Drew out there, ladies. Thank you.

All right, Drew. Hey, the great thing for him is, like, he's played a lot of college ball. Oh, yeah. A ton. We see these guys getting the NFL and guys that don't have a ton of college experience, all of a sudden, sometimes they may struggle. So this is going to be great for him. Do we have any projections over whatever's going on with him in the draft next year?

First round is the projection. Just, I guess, depends how high he'll be, how he finishes? This really, it doesn't mean shit, though. Like, last year they were saying Quinn Ewer's just going to go top five. You got drafted in the seventh round. So what happened? How does that happen? That's a great question.

When you think top five and then he goes in the seventh round. Apparently, it wasn't that good. And apparently the scouts and media were wrong. Tell you what I think they're also wrong about. What did coach say in his six, five? I think he's tolerant that. He's a gigantic human being. I want to be played any other sports.

He said baseball. But he played basketball, though. This dude, 360 dunk in like Cooper, Jean. He's from Ohio. He's basically the next Ben Rothersberger. Yeah, but he's not too far from where Ben grew up in Medina, like northeast type of Ohio. I think it's a, I play with some guys.

He's a good kid. Some tough dudes, especially a big, tall, strapping quarterback like him. We'll look out for him. Pat, I think you're, I think Pat's back after he and Drew probably took a selfie as well in that nice beautiful backdrop. Oh my God, hold on, it's not just, hold on. I just asked him if he's 610 that Drew Allen. Yeah, he's huge.

He is so tall. Hold on, we got another legend here. Give me 45 seconds. Of course, yeah, of course, it's a great tease for people that might not know. I don't know. Is there a Ryder Cup update from anybody here? Tone, do you know what's going on? You can follow?

Yeah, I saw that Sam Burns, K, and who was it? Young? Yes, Cam Young. They both nailed huge birdie putts to go one-up in their matches. And then I saw JJ Spawn with that lab putter. He had a huge birdie putt, and then Rombo missed his eagle putt, so they stayed. I think Rombos won up in that. But we are up one in two matches.

they are up in one match and the other matches all square. Beautiful, we love it. Pat, what's going on over there in Happy Valley? You all set? Ladies and the gentleman, a goat is here. Coach Nick Saban. Yeah, Coach! You hear the boys clapping for you over there? You hear the boys clapping?

Yeah, I love it. Is the sound line? Did you see Drew Aller walk through? He's much taller than I thought he was going to be. I knew he was tall. He's tall. No, and very well put together, you know, for a big guy. Interesting.

It should be an advantage. Absolutely. He's the prototype football player, I think, at quarterback position. People are obviously saying that. That's why they had such high hopes coming into the year for him. I just got a chance to chat with him both on air and off air about how that season ended for him last year. Obviously makes a bad decision, bad outcome, and that's how everybody's going to remember the whole year. That's the last taste in his mouth for the entire off season. For you, whenever you're coaching a team that has that type of ending, do you think James Franklin obviously utilized that as motivational off season? And what do you learn about your players in those moments where it does feel like it's all over? never want to waste of failing, you know, with your players. So you definitely have to teach, you know, from all of it. You can't just be emotional and let your ego get in a way and criticize people. And you have to always have a plan from a leadership standpoint for the future. Okay. So I'm sure James Franklin took, here's the things we didn't do well. Here's what we need to do to correct them. This is what we need to work on in the offseason. These are the sacrifices we need to make, the skills we need to develop the habits to new we need to create so that we actually can play

better and finish against really, really good teams. So that's what I think good leaders do. Never waste a failing, AJ. You know, AJ actually was nominated for the Pro Football Hall of Fame this week, Coach. Let's go, Hawks. I appreciate you. That's great. AJ, that's, do you think you should get in? Absolutely. Okay, that's a lot of people voting yes. That's a lot of people voting yes. He doesn't have a vote, neither do I. But we're all saying, yes, AJ has a question for you, coach. I do, coach. Everyone's talking about the whiteout that's going to be happening Saturday night.

I guess can you describe how tough it is to come into a situation like that and for your offense, more specifically, to play in something that is so loud from start to finish the whole game? Well, you know, we played in a whiteout here and it didn't help them much. For most teams. It's tough for most teams. What was that? Was it a night one? Is it a night one?

No, it was a day game. Okay. All right. So, you know, I do think that the things that I always try to do with our team when we played on the road and we're going to play in a blackout, a white out, or whatever it was, is to emphasize to the players that the fans don't make any plays in the game. That, yeah, there's going to be noise and we're going to have to handle the noise like we do in all circumstances on the road.

And that could have an impact on the game, especially when it comes to the offensive line, false starts, those types of things, putting you behind the sticks. But I've really, really tried to emphasize that the players that, you know, those circumstances, those external factors like a whiteout, really doesn't have any impact on the game. It's going to be about what you do inside the 53 yards wide and 100 yards deep that's going to make a difference in the game. And, you know, you've got to make these people sit on their hands. And you do that by good execution. So I was always taking the opposite approach. Now, if you don't handle that and you have a young team that's not very mature, they won't handle it very well. And it will have an impact on

them because you have to earn your momentum when you play on the road. I mean, you're going to have all this emotion sort of going against you in terms of noise and all that. But you have to earn your momentum by good execution. And that's, that's, that's, and you've got to keep your players focused on that and not worried about what's happening out here. I don't know if you saw Europe earned their momentum this morning against the U.S. in the Rotter Cup Co. Not anymore. Are we back? Are we back? We're making a run right now, absolutely. We're up in two matches

all square in one match and they are up in one match. Okay, so... So I didn't even see the results. So we get hammered this morning? 3-1. We're down 3-1 this morning. We got 3-1 this morning, yeah. But President Trump hopped on Marine 1 whenever he saw the boys were done, flies him and his granddaughter over there.

He is now currently sitting on the first letting everybody know. They're saying what USA is. So I guess there's been a lot more pizzazz since his arrival this afternoon group has obviously done better, but we're all pulling for U.S. to be Europe and golf. A sport that you're very good at. Maybe you get into the Senior Riter Cup, if that ever happens.

I heard you got a good swing there. I can't hit it's far enough to get in any cup. Yeah, right. I think you absolutely would. Huge weekend of ball. Okay, we have a graphic of all the games, both Saturday and Sunday coach. And I think early in the season here for the NFL, they tried their best to make big time matchups. But with the new

alignment of conferences, obviously this game is a conference game for the Big Ten. With the new alignment, the new scheduling, the new rules, the new college football playoff setup, we're getting massive games on a regular basis. How do you feel about this, Slade, and how do you feel about where college football is right now with the matchups? Well, you know, I'm all for playing more good games. You know, I'm glad to see these teams going to nine conference games, so you'll get even more matchups because they're going to play good teams. I don't think people really want to see you play teams that can't match up with you or don't have the same level of talent. So having games like this I think is exactly what the fans want to see. And I'm sure it's what a lot of coaches want to

see. I mean, there's some of these teams that have not been tested yet. On that note, Diggs has a question about maybe one of the teams in this particular game that has not been tested yet and what the narrative has been about them maybe not looking their best. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, I do, Coach. Obviously, Penn State has not been tested yet. They have the easiest schedule so far in FBS, I believe. And then there's some talk about how they haven't looked great against these lesser teams. And there's a narrative. I'm not sure where it came from that they're trying to be very vanilla so they don't put things on tape for this Oregon game. Do you think that's real? Like when you've been early in the season and if you had to play lesser opponents, do you try not to put things on tape that you know you're going to use against a better team later on the season? Well, I think there's probably some merit to that.

I mean, the thing that I always was most concerned about was not the other team, but how do we develop our team? What do we need to do to make our team better? And if we weren't throwing it very well or protecting very well or stopping the run on defense, you know, those are the kinds of things that I wanted to emphasize, regardless of who we were playing, so that we're more prepared. It's almost like exhibition games in the NFL. Preseason, yeah. Yeah, preseason games.

and you want to test your team to some degree to see, you know, what are the issues, what are the problems, what do we need to fix here, what do we need to work on, and so that when you do play a team that can test you relative to their players versus your players, you know, your players are going to be more ready for that. You know, I always, we always played a hard game first. Did you guys schedule that because you wanted it? Yeah, we did it because we wanted to do it. We played, started out, we started playing.

neutral site games, you know, back in 2008, I think. And it really is what gave the program an identity. I remember we beat Clemson in 2008, you know, in the opening game in Atlanta. And we weren't in the top 25. Nobody recognized Alabama for anything. Clemson was number nine. We beat them. So that helps your program. But the biggest thing it helps is the whole spring practice, summer conditioning, offseason, fall camp. Players are looking forward. to do the first game. So they are preparing themselves for the challenges that they're going to have in the first game rather than maybe being a little complacent about creating the kind of habits that they need to play really good teams when you don't play, you know, quite as good a competition.

They're actually talking about that with the NFL right now is the NFL is scheduling more division games early in the year that teams might have to take preseason a little bit more serious because off the jump, you're kind of behind the eight ball. Chargers 3 and 0 right now in the AFC West. obviously everybody else. They start out hot. It's automatically implicating playoffs for them. And I think the NFL is going to be trying to do that more. College doing that I think is a good thing. Both these teams will see. Obviously

the Oregon team has won the Plotipus trophy. Okay, that's the tough one. Big one. They already won it. Yeah, but they haven't played anybody either. They won the Plattopuss. 41-7 or something. That's a good win in the Platypus Bowl. That's the Plata Plus Bowl. I don't even know what that is.

What is that? A 10-minute video about it last week. Was that last week? Is that last week on games? Basically got a Ph.D. in platypuscery. Yeah, it's the top of a duck, the bottom of a beaver. That is a pletipus. It is a trophy.

It was on game day last week. Coach checked out. Coach said, you know what? I was taking a break. It is hot as hell down here right now. It is hot. Ty Schmidt has a question for you about a massive game down in Athens. Yeah, Coach, what do you think about Bama, Georgia this weekend?

I feel like, you know, typically, at least for people who aren't fans for either one of the teams, they think that this is going to be a defensive back. battle, but it's been quite the shootout the last several times both of these teams have played. How do you see this one shaking out, and who do you think has the upper hand? Well, first of all, I think the line of scrimmage is going to be really important. You know, when Alabama has struggled, especially on the road with some of these games last year and this year at Florida State, they had a hard time stop on the run. And, you know, Kirby's going to be stubborn about running the ball

because he doesn't want to put his quarterback in situations where they can tee off. on them. But I also think that, you know, Ty Simpson has played really well for Alabama. They've made a lot of explosive play since the Florida State game. So I also think who can affect the quarterback, who has the kind of pass rushers, who can create the situations where you can affect the quarterback? That's going to be huge in this game. You know, can Alabama run it? Can they make the explosive plays? Can Georgia affect the quarterback? But I think it's going to be very similar for George as well. Kirby's a guy that we should just always assume is going to have his team in top intention just for as long as he's coaching down there, Georgia?

Yeah, well, I think the big thing you got to take away from the Tennessee, you know, people talk about all the plays and, you know, guy misjudged the ball and they made a big play, fourth and six or whatever it was, and he scored a touchdown. But how about the resiliency that their team showed in the game to keep coming back, you know, on the road, over 100,000 people against them, and they just keep coming back and they keep playing. You know, I don't know that you, you know, you try to make. make that a part of the culture, but if your team doesn't have it, it's hard to get. And Georgia certainly approved to me that they have that kind of resiliency that you need

to win big games and close games. 102,000, I forget what the number was, that were in there. I happened to be one of them. We stuck around because maybe we have a friend that's an alumni there, and there was a brand new part of the stadium being debuted, but he wasn't the only, everybody was back there. That was a homecoming type feel. Yeah, it had that type of feel there. and for Georgia to answer.

Gunner Stockton, that might have been a moment for him. That might have been like a breakthrough moment confidence-wise for him, who you've liked since high school, right? Yeah, I've always liked Gunner because he's a great competitor. You know, people can talk about maybe he's not the classic passer, but he's a great athlete. He can beat you with his feet. I think he's smart.

I think he makes really good instinctive decisions. And I think he's going to do nothing but get better and better. And that game, you know, last two weeks ago against Tennessee, their last game is going to do volumes. for his confidence. Not just his, probably the whole team, right? Do you believe it? I think the team loves them.

Now I think the team believes in him. Oh, I like that. Oh, wow. That's a bar. That's a bar. And congrats to Gunner. That's coming from Coach Saban, outside looking in. Feels like they're all in on you.

How could you not? That throw is awesome. And we know he's a tough. Tough. I mean, he just lost his consciousness as soon as we were introduced to him. As soon as we're introduced to this guy, he gets on the field. What's his name? Gunner.

That's awesome. Where is he from? Georgia playing for Georgia oh do we got the next that's in here this guy's a little bit of a wild card let's see what we got and then he just gets obliterated loses consciousness loses consciousness completely just gets up where's the ball where's that it's like it's like this is what we like this is he took some shots in there right there as soon as we're introduced to it you know this guy's from Raven County man that's where they made deliverance the old movie deliverance oh so there's some tough folks there okay yeah I certainly say there's some there's some interesting folks there as well

Speaking of interesting, folks, we watched a, there's a documentary out, an E-60 documentary that you were actually a tease for before a commercial break. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, Lane Kiffin's E-60 debuted this week, and essentially, while telling the story of his life, they do basically make you out to be, you know, his savior damn near because no one would touch him with a 10-foot pole after, you know, all the situations that had happened. what type of relationship do you have with Lane now? Obviously, you know, he's a head coach Ole Miss. They got a huge one this weekend. He's telling the world to take the over. I think everybody probably should. How do you kind of look at things like that when, you know, you have to sit down and talk about someone, and it's not a puff piece for you, per se, but, you know, everyone's talking about how great you are after it. And also, is that the most important

thing to you when you look back on your coaching career? You know, the guys you kind of helped along the way, especially someone like Lane who was at the top of the top, and then, you know, basically got cast out, and then you helped rebuild them? Well, you know, first of all, I didn't watch a documentary because I lived it for three years. I did it enough. That was good enough for me. But anyway, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Lane. You know, this guy is a great coach.

I think at the station of his life, you know, he had been a head coach. got to go back to be an assistant coach. And I actually think, you know, that's a hard transition. I mean, I was a head coach at the University of Toledo for one year, and then I had to go back and work for Belichick as a defensive coordinator in Cleveland. It's a hard transition to go from being the boss to, you know, sort of taking the orders from somebody else. But he did a great job for us. He's a great play caller. And I think he's matured, you know, along the way. And I actually think he's a much better head coach at this station or even at the station where we had him, then he was an assistant.

But he did a great job of being a very good assistant, you know, for us. And I'm glad to see that he's overcome so much of adversity, some of it's self-inflicted. Self-inflicted wounds, he calls it. Yeah, to be in a position to have success. I mean, he's had success everywhere he's been since he's left Alabama, and he had a tremendous amount of success at Alabama. And it does, in fact, make me really proud to see guys that really did a great job for us when they were coaches on our staff to be able, because they all had goals and aspirations to become coordinators, head coaches, whatever, to be able to see them fulfill that.

You know, I always tried to make it good for the coaches so they never wanted to leave, but I also wanted to help them develop so they would get the opportunities. that they wanted in the future. And you always had somebody seemingly in line to get that job because if you were blessed in the Sabin Walters, normally good things were happening to you. You know, you go down to Sabin to pray.

Yeah, I get it. But, you know, I think what people... That's what you do. But just one other point to make is, is, You know, some of these guys, whether it's Mike Loxley, Sark, Lane, you know, whoever it was that, you know, sort of came in after a tough circumstance. You know, nobody's perfect. You know, everybody has flaws.

And sometimes those flaws create consequences for you. But everybody should have a second chance and an opportunity to prove that they can do something of significance. Because they would have never been in a position that they were in head coach of Southern Cal, Washington, wherever it was. if they weren't very talented. Tennessee, too. That's quite a moment. That Tennessee part of his life, Breelod. And then Feinbaum, Tennessee fan, Coach Kiffin told us. So that carried into the USC.

Miley Cyrus fired not on a tarmac. Felt like that was a little bit of a lie, but certainly in an FBO. What a life, and he's got a big one this weekend. Huge game this weekend down there in the SEC. Multiple of those, not just Georgia-Bama. We were down in hot-ass southern Florida. Gumpy actually has a question for you about the state of the hurricanes and your guy, Coach Cristobal.

Yeah, Coach Cristobal has been really good for Miami and they're off to a hot start. How do you think you keep that going, not let the rat poison, as you say, creep in a little bit? Yeah, well, I think that's the challenge. You know, how are people affected by all the external sort of praise that you get? And a lot of these young people now get a lot of self-gratification from external factors, what's on social media, it's on the Internet,

and all that kind of stuff. And can they stay focused on the things? they need to do to continue to improve, you know, as a team. And everybody's got to do it. You can't have half the team do it and half the team not do it because you get complacency, you know, creates a blatant disregard for doing what's right. Then you create bad habits because you're not doing things the right way, and then it starts to show up in your play, and then eventually you get beat. We won 19 games in row twice at Alabama, and the 20th game we lost.

I can't sit here and say the other team was better than us. They were good, but they weren't better than us. better than us. And we just didn't play very well. But it was good for your team? Finally get a loss, a little perspective. Because whenever you win and play bad, that's also worst case scenario, right? For coaches? Yeah, well, we needed to lose in both cases.

We needed to lose. We were complacent. We weren't paying attention to detail. You know, I mean, when you win, it's why we practice in today. When you lose, when are we practicing? I mean, there's a big difference in that. There is a big difference, certainly.

And also, a celebration can kind of cover up a lot of bad traits. that are maybe taking place for their team. I'd like to let West Virginia football know. We don't need any more losses. Nope. He said they did a loss. They woke up.

Yeah, Indianapolis, Colts, we'll need more losses. Okay, we don't need to ever lose again. Just so we have some teams win 19 straight, obviously, need a loss. There's some teams that aren't in that world. We need a win. You know, there's a little bit. Yeah, you've got to get to that point. You picked against West Virginia a couple times.

Yeah, I was sorry for that. You were sorry for picking against them or for them? I was sorry for picking against them. Yeah, but then you still did it, though. You actually told me beforehand you were going to be sorry to do it, and you did it. And how about John Cena? What was that all about? Do you see that, AJ?

Do you see whenever he hit me with the U.S.S. You know, I did. I appreciate Coach for doing that, actually. That was awesome. You know what? I cannot sit here and take credit for that. Oh, Ms. Harry? That was my host here, giving me some coaching points.

Work yourself into a shoot, brother. Yeah, there's Mr. Here, it is right there. I take Brock Lesnar after laying out. the beast versus the goat. And by the way, I don't know if he kept up with it. I was right again. Okay. I was right again on the picks, on the Corslat Picks, and you hit in the you can't see me is one of the greatest moments I've seen on the internet. I just want to let you know that. Because there's so many different generations that have felt that. And the fact, boom, not so fast, my friend. You dropped a Lee Corso. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

What a moment, dude. And then you ate out of an alligator, if you do recall. And we all lost 45 pounds of sweat. It was hot as shit down there. But it was a great setup. Yeah, it was. There was great enthusiasm. I think it's, you know, a fantastic environment. I just want to see Miami get back. I think it's good for college football. I think it's good for the ACC.

Miami is, you know, a contender, you know, in this day and age of all. I agree. All right. We're going to continue digitally as we wrap up here on ESPN. That's Coach Sabin. We're in Happy Valley. College game day tomorrow celebrating Oregon and Penn State in a great weekend.

ball. Good luck to America in the Rotter Cup. Have the greatest weekend of your life. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We love you. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change your life. We'll see you on Monday. Goodbye. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it.

You got it. We're still live. We're still live. He was like, give me the fuck out of you. He certainly was. Yes, he certainly was. All right, coach. We'll see. That's all we went. That was awesome, but I'm glad Pat,

he always put his hands up. He probably got some great food waiting on and we're great lunch, meeting going on, honey. He's getting off the show every Friday's something I look forward to. It is fun, isn't it? He's always like either just sitting there or just takes off. He's always dressed like impeccably, right? To the knives.

That word is right for that. Yeah, probably has a bunch of fits, you know, over the year. Whoever has Taylor is, somebody he's going to work with for a long time, probably comes to house and measure them, and then sends him, like, 15 suit jackets. Has a lot of that color in his closet. He does seem to have a lot of that same tone, but that's a real southern situation, you know?

Crimson. Yeah, crimson, right? I think that's right. I think he coached her Bama for a while. Yeah, Pat, I think you guys wrapped it up with Coach Saban. How's he doing? Is he still up there? Are you trying to hang around?

He's the man, I just forced him and taking a selfie with me. Obviously, I heard Diggs talking about that there. He is spectacular, dude. Just as a human, everything. Like, he is fantastic. And it's been really cool just to hang out with him, watch him operate. This morning he'll come in. And, you know, he's had all these thoughts about what the game day show should be.

He's watched all his film. So today is like a good time to just kind of get his thoughts on everything. The shit that he drops in there is just like jam after jam after jam after jam after jam. It is really cool being around him. Very, very cool being around him. And we just took a selfie over here. Even he's a beautiful setup here, dude. Penn State, I've mentioned it a lot.

They are all in on all sports. and that's only going to continue. Look for me to have a conversation with the athletic director, Pat Kraft. I don't know if we're going to record it or go live tonight. Something tonight with me get a chance to catch up with him. Just kind of see what his plan was and how he kind of executes it. Because this is the future of college. This is college sports right now.

And he's a middle linebacker who is now in charge of an entire university that wants to be fully committed and win at all sports. And they are embracing that, leaning in on that. I can't wait to catch up. with him, but you can feel it around here, man. Everybody loves this place, and that's him. That's the athletic director for Penn State right there. 47 with a neck roll.

James Franklin, obviously, chitchat about him seeing the picture the same way as him. It's a lot of alignment here, a lot of alignment. All right, I'm going to go to the bathroom on the other side. Let's make our picks, AJ. We're undefeated. Yeah, we are undefeated. Here we go. We're seeing the field.

We might have a perfect slate, you and I this weekend. Great chance. There's actually a very good chance. we do. 76 or 74% at one point yesterday on Seattle Seahawks. It hits. Maybe the sports books are maybe they're fucking done. We're going to bankrupt him for sure.

Age, I'm pretty excited for, aren't you? This is good. Much better than last week. Remember last week we both had to be like, last night doesn't matter because we start off cold. We're hot right now. It's good to get it. It's like the rider comes. It's like Bryson's T-shot, even though he didn't end up winning that one, but still that's not a good analogy. They didn't win.

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next visit. It's what we're doing, right, Pat? Here we go, Hour 3. How was Coach Saban? I know he got out of there pretty quickly. Was he all right? Did he have a lunch meeting or something? Yeah, I think Coach Haven's always wheeling and dealing.

He might have a variety to be sold, or maybe in Mercedes-Benz, you know, maybe some film to watch, or maybe just a business meeting to navigate through. But the room that I'm in right now, not just James Franklin's door. here. Feels like I'm getting to know the entire on-campus recruiting staff, the NIL staff. I just got a gifted a hat. Lock the duck in, I guess, because James Franklin has been quoted before saying, lock the fuck in, so you get it, you just put a D there, and then you put the duck on there. I can zoom in, actually, I think, on this thing. Let me go ahead and zoom in on this babe. Nope, that's out. Oh, no, don't get too sick. All right, look at that. L-T-D-I, lock the duck in.

You see, that is a play on locking the fucking, but you also lock the duck in because they're coming to town, and we got to do this as such. Now, the hat is not a crappy hat. It is actually pretty well put together. It feels like it wouldn't be like cartoony on my head if I was put on, large-brained person. But I will save this for after the game to see if they actually lock the duck in or if the duck fucking gets out. And it gets loose, which is certainly possible with this Oregon team, but I love the business. This is a full business. They're treating it as such.

This is what everybody is aspiring to become. And I got a chance of me like a lot of young Penn Staters here that obviously bleed for this place, but are also working their ass off for this place. It's been a really cool day. Let's go to the Toxic Table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, I don't know how big the delay is.

Sometimes it feels bigger than other times. That's AP tone there. In A.J. Hawk, on Fridays, there's one thing that we have to do for society. And obviously, we'll utilize the other half of the hammer. Don! Cowboys Gumpy in this entire process. But it's time to make our picks against the entire slate. And this weekend, we have NFL happening at 9.30 a.m.

We have the Minnesota Vikings taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers in Dublin Town, Ireland. Vikings favored by two and a half. Obviously, the Steelers are beloved in that country. The ownership has actually been an ambassador there. The amount of Irish people in Pittsburgh is alarming. Are the Minnesota Vikings going to go in there with Carson Wentz, a quarterback, and steal the entire country from the Steel Towns? Let's go to AP Tone.

Tone, what do you fall on this particular game? I actually feel good about this one because, well, the last time I felt really good was against Seahawks. So we'll see how that goes. But I just, I don't think Carson Wentz is good. So sue me there. I don't want to live in a world where Aaron Rogers, Rogers loses to Carson Wentz. I just in Ireland with it's 11 on 11. Yeah, well, with hopefully the spirit of Mr. Rooney is there.

And I hope it's a good day. I hope it's an easy day. There hasn't been a lot of easy days for Steelers fans. And I hope in this one is. Okay. Yeah, Minnesota Vikings, obviously the team to have an easy day against, of course. What is this? Five, six years ago.

Tom Pelliserro tweeted the Steelers added running back Jalen Warren with a need of the injury report. He's questionable for Sunday versus Minnesota. Johnny Smith and corner Joey Porter Jr. also questionable, but I did see Joe Porter Sr. over in Ireland. And I saw Kiesel over there. They're hanging out at Mahin's places. And it feels like the vibes in Ireland are electrifying. I will take the Minnesota Vikings minus two and a half at 9.30 a.m. against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Dublin, Ireland. KOC came on. Was awesome. I believe in Carson once because I've seen it. I've seen it with these eyes. When he's playing good, He's unbelievable.

If KOC can harness that buck and bull into making the right decisions on a regular basis, there's a chance that Carson Wentz sees this middle of career resurgence that we've been seeing amongst a lot of quarterbacks. AJ, do you see it the same way I'm seeing it? Man, I thought we were going to see this one similar, but I don't think so. I'm taking the Steelers here plus two and a half on the road. I feel Carson Wentz is going to play. He might be all right, but I think this is, I think TJ, we know he's been rolling this last game.

TJ is going to do it. I think this D line steps up for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's find a way to win, boys. So only one of us will be perfect, I guess, this week. I guess. Damn it. Unfortunately. Unfortunately.

It's the first game. It's a 9.30 game, and we're already seeing things the opposite way. I didn't want to do it. I thought we all understood what was going on. KOC, Carson Wentz experience. We're doing it. Pittsburgh Steelers fans, not exactly thrilled with what the Pittsburgh Steelers have been. It's Ireland.

Law and a hype, maybe some distraction. The Steelers are staying in a fucking castle. Okay, we all saw where their fans is beautiful. in the park, right? Yeah, I would assume. Well, that's the assumption, but I believe there is actually a Gaelic law going back to ancient Ireland that says if there is a red-haired quarterback and you don't root for him, you get your tongue cut up. Yep.

If there is a leprechaun, no matter the size, playing quarterback for the team, you cheer for said team. So we found that out when we went over there. Obviously, that got lost in all the drunk escapades. And shout out to Dublin, Ireland, showing up once again. We assume it's going to be electrifying. to the Saints and the Bills. Bills favored by 14 and a half at home. That is a hilarious spread for week four. Tone, 14 and a half. Is there history behind how big of a spread this is this early in the season? It's the biggest one so far in this season. Obviously, we've had back-to-back weeks

where we've had an 11 and a half or a 12. This one was started at 16 and a half. You can actually get it 15 and a half across the board now at a lot of places. It is a ginormous one. And you can see it right there. Largest underdust. dogs, they've been an NFL game in 40 years. So it's pretty historic for the Saints, at least. Give me the Buffalo Beals. Hey, Jay, who do you think? Yeah, give me the Buffalo Beals.

I have to. I love the Beals. I think they went part 21, I guess. Me too. It's hard. This is one of those ones that Tone talks about and the gomblers talk about. When we wake up the next day, we bet we bet we the bill's not with the seat.

Yeah, you're right. Exactly, Connor, right? You're feeling the same way? Yeah, exactly. I cannot, in good faith, as a human being, bet on the Saints in Buffalo. And the bills don't have Ed Oliver in the middle still, and they still don't have Matt Milano. And if this was 29 and a half, I would still, as a human being, have to bet on Buffalo. Yep.

Yeah, just because we got to wake up and look in the mirror, you know? And if the world was mirrorless, okay, I'd take the Saints this weekend. but amen since my house my house has a mirror and i got to wake up the next morning and look at it and there's a discussion that takes place holy shit you look like you're 60 years old oh good morning you can't do the answer i think you know and then there's a why why we need it's Josh now everything else how do we pick against them yeah exactly that would be the first thought before i even brush my teeth it would be what kellen mo Kelly mo Kelly mo Kelly mo it's the best team versus the worst team like this

This spread cannot be big enough to pick the Saints. There's no number out there. What's the percentage out there? I assume bill is still heavy, even if it's 14 and a half. You said it was 16 and a half and it's gotten down to 14 and a half. Now it's at 15 and a half across the board. Correct. Yes.

And the money is on 64% on the bills. All right. So we get it at minus 14.5, right? Because when we made this pick, we're looking at the graphic, AJ, you agree? Yes, absolutely. Even though that's not what the line is and nobody else can get that. We'll take that for our little game here. Eagles, Buccaneers, Eagles down in Tampa Bay, favored by three and a half.

Ty Schmidt, what are your thoughts on Coach Sireani going down into Tampa Bay as three and a half point favorites? Well, I believe the Eagles have historically had a bit of a tough go down in Tampa. And I don't know, this just, this Tampa team feels a little bit different. They just feel a little bit different for whatever reason. All these, you know, final drives, Baker's marching right down the field and scoring. and then on top of that, they've had that makeshift line. They're supposed to allegedly be getting Worf's back this week and Chris Godwin.

We obviously know how good Abuca's been. So, I mean, I'm sure the Eagles would be ready to go, but this is kind of got, you know, game of the week written all over it. Rick Stroud, obviously, the Tampa Times keeping us updated on what's going on down there, and we appreciate him doing that. I like the Buccaneers plus three and a half. Even if the Eagles win, I like Buccaneers at home plus three and a half. AJ, your thoughts?

Yeah, I'm going to have to go with you on this one. I like the Buccaneers as well, at home, plus three and a half, I love Baker. I like the Godwin is back, and if Worf is playing, and he's 75% or more, I think that's great for the bucks. Man, I'm starting to get a real good feel about how I'm seeing these games. Titans, Texans, Texans favored by seven and a half at home. Over under 38 and a half. Jeez. Hey, obviously, 38.5, that is a low number.

I just saw something from Dan Levitard show with Diana. Rossini. Rossini, there it is. I'm so sorry, Paizana. She said she's writing about CJ and the Texans and basically said something along the lines of they still haven't been able to click and they're trying to figure out the offense

and then she said there's some things going on that we'll learn about who knows what that means. She was teasing a thing she was writing. I think whenever she was talking, so who knows what we found out, what we haven't found out. CJ, GJ gets kicked off the team. It seems like cut up from the team

out of nowhere. Who knows what leads to that in its entirety. and it just feels like after getting killed by the Colts, you know, like maybe Titans keep it within a touchdown with the Texans, rivalry game, division game. Your thoughts, AJ? Yeah, seven and a half for the Texans are seven and a half point favorites. Like that seems a bit wild to me right now. And the whole the Rossini situation too, like it has me intrigued.

Good tease by her. I'm not sure what they're talking about if it's a health thing or what it possibly could be. but I am fully on board with Cam Ward and what he is doing. Give me the Tennessee Titans. Okay. Look at us seeing this thing. You took the Eagles or Tampa Bay? You took Tampa Bay, yeah.

The only thing is the Steelers one we've disagreed on. All right, so we'll see. Chargers in the Giants, Chargers favored by six and a half in MetLife over under 43. And a half. Let's go to Bruce Jackson Darts starting. What do you think that means for the rest of the boys for the New York Giants as a giant's faithful file? Jack City, bitch.

Jack's Jack City, bitch. I think we keep it close. in the first half. I think we probably go into halftime tied. The first half line is Giants plus three and a half. I prefer that one. Full game, we probably find a way to lose. It'll probably be something assinine maybe a rough in the passer, get them into field

goal territory, something like that. But yeah, I think we hang tough, but eventually it probably slips away from us. Okay, so I like the Chargers. Who's the defensive coordinator there? Jesse Minter. Yeah, he's going to put them in a body bag. You feel the same way, it sounds like? Yeah.

This is one of those, like, hey, can I bet on the Giants to score less than 10 points type games? I love Jackson Dart. Think it's going to work out. I think he's going to save Dayball's job as well. I just think Jesse Minner and John Harbaugh, if you were to go in line of teams and coaches and de-coordinators, you want your rookie QB to start his career with, they've got to be, you know, bottom three on that list, right? Probably the worst. I guess maybe you can put up, you know, maybe like,

Todd Bowles would probably be terrible for a rookie QB too, but I mean, that sucks for the Giants. I love the charge. Giants over under for total points is 18 and a half, if you would like to bet. There you go. A little high. JJ, looking at me down there, Mario Robinson walking through

and Eagle is walking through. Hey, team, good to see you guys. Have a great game. Hell yeah, hell yeah. It's going to be an honor to watch you guys. Have a great season. Hell yeah, hell yeah. So like six, seven footers walked out of this hallway. I don't know the fuck they are just walked out of this hallway and they went this way and then the entire

mbc crew just kind of walked through that's during the game and hell yeah oh yeah black uh black's uh todd black's uh todd black litch Todd blackledge there he is it's odd thank you for for pet take great yeah yeah he's back home it feels like he has a little spunk to him you know he's back here on his ground uh i got the chargers a j who do you have yeah i love jackson dart hill he's going to bring some juice i think scadaboo is going to dent a few helmets and body parts of other people, but I will take the chargers. You guys can get the chargers at six. We like it. We like that. We would

like them at six. Maybe five and a half if you can find them. Let's go to the Browns and the Lions Favored by nine and a half. Okay. Way too many points. What are we gentlemen? A lot of points. Give me the Browns plus nine and a half. Go ahead. I've taken the Brown. There's a ten and a half out there actually to get the Browns at ten and a half.

I got a tidbit for you guys, though. This might change a little bit. Half-time show is Mitchell 10 Penny. in Detroit. That might change some things here. Nope. Mr. Ten, Penny, what was his? I take the tequila time. I want a tequila time. Can someone sing his stuff?

Foxy, maybe? That was it. I just did it, actually. Yeah, AJ, I'm trying to find it. You can help me out here. I think it's, I want. He's actually opening for Jordan Davis these days, I saw. The football player? Yeah. He opens out before his. He opens the stadium. No, fucking

buy dirt. Yeah. Oh, I thought I thought Mitchell Tenpenny was the guy that was actually opening a hole for Jordan Davis. Whenever you see field goals happen for the other team, Tenpenny's driving the guard, and then Jordan Davis is coming up. So he is open for him there and also on the road musically. Tanpani turning the boys up there at halftime. Might change a little something. Is Kid Rock going to be with it?

Let's assume so. Yeah, Bob will always be there in spirit. Some of the think about also with Cleveland, great defense at home. It's awesome. The Ravens didn't hang 45 on them. So, or 42, whatever the hell it was. Great offense. Great offense.

And then the Lions just beat the piss out of the raven. So I'm just saying, 10 and a half. There's a reason the sports books made 10 and a half after the Brown needs just beat the Packers. I'm just saying. I mean, Ty. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say the devil's advocate would be that the Brown's defense might be the best of all time.

So, and in years past, yes, we know that that's kind of a home field split. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be taking it on the road this year. I think Jim Schwartz actually told him, like, hey, this year. I think we're going to also take the good defense on the road as well, because our offense is absolute shite. Whatever you do, don't pick the lines because fucking Mitchell 10

pennies. Let's just get that up there right now. You get a picture of 10 penny. Ty, we don't know because there might be a ball with the ball to bang. That's different. I agree. That's different. If it is Mitchell Tenpenny with Kid Rock,

then I'm good. But guess what? Bob Ritchie ain't ever getting fucking second billing to Mitchell Tampetti. So we would know we would know if Kid Rock was there. What if he comes out though and has a remix to that that we don't even know? And he goes My name is Mitch!

And he starts out with that entire thing. What if he is ball with the ball and in that? What if he's covering Kid Rock the entire time? Is that count? If that's the case, yes, that would count. That would count. So, but, you know, is this number going to move before now and then? You know, if that happens, do all of a sudden, are the Lions, I don't know, you know, 20 and a half point favorites.

It's possible. The Lions. Can we get his set list? Sorry, go ahead. We need to know if he's covering Kid Rock. We can get a set list. Also, the Lions OC, Johnny Morton was talking shit on the Brown's defense. So see how that.

Johnny Mo? Yeah, he did. Yeah. They never seen a run game like ours. They love it. They didn't see a run game like ours. What do you know, Johnny Moe, huh? Okay.

I like that. Love that. Garrett heard that. I'm sticking with the bronze. I'm sticking with the bronze. I think obviously Lions win. Congratulations. Especially Mitchell Tin Penny delivering a kid rock tribute that we have never seen before. But I like the Browns plus 10, AJU as well. I do like the Browns plus 10, but man, I hope Mitchell 10 Penny sees this, this little seg and he actually covers at least one song of Kay Willick. He's been on the show before. I don't think, I don't think 10 pennies How do we spell 10-Penny?

Just like 10 and just like 10. Sounded out. T-H-E-N. I'm just wondering, is that on his birth certificate? Is this something that's a big set gave to him? No, it's the birth name. Hold on, please, we need to show some respect. The 10 pennies, big deal, I think, in Nashville and music creating as a whole. I think the 10-penny family is very active down there in music road.

I don't know anything about this. Feel stupid yet? Well, yeah, that's called ignorance. No, it's called being cute. I'm curious. Sorry, I'll ask questions my whole life, guys. Well, you should be judgmental, not curious. I should be judgmental. Be judgmental, not curious.

You're right. You didn't ball with the ball at all there. Carolina Panthers taken on the New England Patriots. Conman, favored by five and a half after what the Panthers just did to the Falcons. How do we feel? Oh, yeah. Patriots should have beat the Steelers by two touchdowns, without a doubt. I would say the D.C. for the Patriots, he's probably going to be done for the year. He's got a, he just got diagnosed with prostate cancer.

unfortunately, T's and peace to him. Man, that sucks. But I think Gonzalez is back on the defense. Drake May quietly is having an unbelievable year. Hopefully they can win some games. So it's at least has some weight going into the offseason. But no, I love the Patriots this weekend. Five turnovers last week against the Steelers.

Two of them in the end zone. So 14 points literally off the board for the New England Patriots last week. We assume that it'll get better T's in peace and a defense coordinator probably means if Rable's going to be a little bit more hands-on on the defensive side, which, you know, I don't know how much of a letoff there will be or any difference they'll be.

I like the Patriots minus five and a half, AJ. Yeah, with all that being said, I think, yeah, Patriots turn the ball over five times, still only losing by seven. Yeah, I think that's a positive. There's a very small chance I think they turned over five times again. So give me the Patriots here. Washington Commanders with Marcus Marriota

and without Terry McLaurin. That sucks for them. Without Jaden, it was without Terry McLaren. Taking on Atlanta Falcons seem that just got absolutely schmacked right in the mouth. Bad, bad, bad. One of the worst games in the history of the NFL. And Panix, obviously, he's going to take his lumps as he continues to grow as a starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons. Washington Commanders, what's the vibes on it?

Dump, what is the vibes on this particular game? One and a half here, Washington Commanders, Atlanta Falcons. This game, you wouldn't bet? Is that what you're thinking? No, I think it's a good bounce back spot. for Atlanta. They marched into Minnesota just two weeks ago and beat the shite out of them. I think the Falcons get

right. I don't think Marriota has back-to-back wins here. Okay, so you think that maybe there's a waterfinding that's level for both these teams? Absolutely. Maybe Atlanta's not as bad and maybe Washington's not as good. AJ, who do you like? Oh boy. This one's a little tougher for me, but I like Washington commanders. I love what Mariotta's doing, taking on his old

squad. Remember how that whole situation when he left the team and all of that? The film quarterback that season. Yeah. I like the commanders here. I forgot about a revenge game. Falcons Corner, AJ Terrell, or Terrell? Yep, Torrell. You know that.

Terrell is out for Sunday's game versus Washington. Do his hamstring injury. I'll take the Washington commanders as well, even though Gumpie said a complete opposite. Colts and Rams, we're to know which way I'm going. Two and a half? No, no, it was four or five, wasn't it? No, no, I'm saying. Sorry, you can get the commanders plus two and a half.

Okay, commanders plus two and a half, I think we'll both take. And then the Colts, the Colts and the Rams. Can I get the Colts plus four? maybe plus five, maybe plus six or seven? You can get the Colts at plus three and a half. What? That's unbelievable. I do appreciate the fact that the best team in ball is getting three and a half points on the road.

And who's how? Somebody needs to ask dirty. That's going to be the Colts House. Okay, Colts fans are about to travel like they're Green Bay Packers fans, like their Pittsburgh Steelers fans. They're about to fill that place up. Okay. Colts are about to be here.

This is our time. This is our team. And they're going to bleed. And you know who that's bad for? You, Los Angeles Rams. Give me the Colts plus three and a half in a hostile environment at 4 o'clock. Yeah, I hear what, Alex Pierce,

he's out with a concussion. Is that right? You tell me. His head hit the ground twice on that one, but it's so hard. I want to take the Colts here. I really do, but I'm taking the Rams at home. Okay.

Okay, thanks, AJ. Yeah, we heard about what you said about dimes. Jacksonville. I've been pumping dimes up at the dayms up. They picked him up. You know that. You've been waiting on a downfall, bro. You've been praying on his downfall.

I'm not praying. Yeah, you've been praying on his downfall. I am always with Danny Dimes. No, you're not, bro. Danny Dimes doesn't play perfect. People are going to start asking if they're frauds. That's what you said in the first hour. Unbelievable.

Just capping, bro. Exactly how I said. That's how Hoffnom talks. Yeah, because he's capping. Ain't that right, Connor? Uh-huh. You do be capping, bro. straight can somebody can somebody explain six seven i don't think i fully i asked that question

your one is one now too i couldn't get an answer mit's guy i've never felt older in my life than whenever watching that go around i honestly my daughter's too young but i guess she's close to knowing what this means i don't know i don't we should have mid explain that's what the young kids are talking you don't know what jacks about yeah yeah i once like five eight i once counted do it their number you know you know you're not you're not you You know why six was afraid of seven is seven, eight, nine, you know, so you don't want to be eating like Pac-Man. Jacksonville, taking on the Niners, Niners favored by three and a half. There's some news coming out of San Francisco.

I just read a tweet that was up here. Coach Kyle Shanahan told KNBR, we're on your side that QB Brock Purdy is progressing towards returning the field on Sunday. I think the toe is feeling better each day, and if that continues, he should be good on Sunday. They can also shoot that thing up. Brock Purdy back in the lineup for San Francisco. We will assume, is that enough for them to win by at least four, unless there is a different spread that we're not knowing about. There are threes out there if you would like to know.

AJ, who do you like? I like Jacksonville here. Wow. Wow. Shit. I'm just, that's my instincts. You know, I'm trusting my instincts here. Smart.

You like Liam Cole. I do like him. I like Trevor Lawrence. I think maybe. You like Chuck. I do like Shaq Khan. I cannot wait for a post game. Yes.

Well, he didn't do it last time they won. He didn't do it last game, yeah. Or they didn't put it out. I think he actually, no, I think he had the recording on his phone, and he walked around and showed everybody when they're at so long. That's a good idea. That's a bad idea.

Smart, man. I like that. Cell does ringtones. Yeah, exactly. This guy created bumpers. He's going to come up with ideas, obviously. I'll take Jaguars plus three and a half. The Bosa injury is partly why I picked the Jags as well.

What a fuck? What am I doing? Sala versus Trevor, Lawrence? Yeah, I know. Yeah, Pierre Saul added to the injury report yesterday. He's heard. Jennings still on the report.

He is banged up. I think Brian Thomas Jr. is the biggest one for the Jags. All right. I will take... Hmm. Is Kittle? One's Kittled. He's done. He's out.

Yeah, he's out. So he's got, what, two more weeks? At least. I believe, yeah. Yeah. One, two. Christian McCaffrey, how's he? He's good.

He's good to go. They haven't scored a running touchdown this season somehow. Christian McCaffrey is actually on pace. What, to touch the ball more than anybody in the history of ball? I think that's still tracking, I'm pretty sure as well after last week. Give me Christian McCaffrey in the San Francisco 49ers minus three against the Jacksonville Jaguar. It's a good number. Yeah, you got it.

What did I get the Jacksonville? exit? Three and a half. Plus three and a half. Yeah, I got them in minus three. Bears, Raiders, favored by one and a half in Las Vegas. Obviously, Chicago has a huge win over the Dallas Cowboys in Iberfluse revenge game for Caleb Williams. Is this the beginning of something or just something that we saw one time and we'll never see again? Ty, what are we think? What are our thoughts on the NFC, North Chicago Bears with the Raiders here? I still think they stink the Bears, but it's weird because the Raiders, I feel like going into the season, we were giving them, hey, they got

Gino Smith now. Pete Carroll, all he does is know how to win. And through a couple weeks, I mean, their schedule hasn't been super easy, but it's just like, oh, no, is this the same Raiders team that we've had the last like five to ten years where they play a good game every once in a while, but ultimately they're going to win

six games and be a massive disappointment. I'm kind of getting that feeling with the Raiders this year. All right, I'm picking the Raiders because of that. Pete Carroll heard that. That's a lot to pull from. Give me the Raiders minus one and a half. You could get him a minus a half. Boom, give me that. Minors are going to win this game. Could you imagine

they tie this thing and I lose by it? One team has Max Crosby on one side of the line and the other has Caleb Williams. So I can't wait to see what Max Crosby does to Caleb. Not even on the field, just chirping. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, bingo. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. There's going to be some real possess.

bads out there, I think. Need some loud mics. Make sure the mics on that game are turned up. Tuned up as well. AJ, who do you got? I like the Raiders. And strictly because of the quad box that Debutt put up earlier this week to show how wide open all those receivers were on the touchdowns that Caleb threw last week against the Cowboys.

That makes me worried a little bit. I feel like the Raiders might tighten up their coverage a tiny bit, but Caleb did play well and did complete these balls, which I'm not taking anything away from. I'm just, you usually don't get free runners like this in the NFL. Yeah, especially against, you know, Dallas Cowboys, your old head coach is, you know, maybe Iber Fluse gave Caleb Williams a bone to, you know, maybe, maybe they didn't practice all week. Maybe they said we're going to leave somebody open.

It was a new thing just to make Caleb feel better. Now we got a game, which one of these powerhouses is going to be one in three after week four, Baltimore Ravens, Can City Chiefs, Baltimore obviously has these situations where they lose in the end. The Kansas City Chiefs, I don't think they've looked. good in the regular season for like last three years, but they're always around in the end. This year people are saying is the demise of the dynasty.

This is the year where they're done. This is the year when it's over. Is this the time for the Baltimore Ravens to cement that and go to two and two as opposed to going one and three? Anything we need to know about this on the back end, boys? I don't think so. I think across the board is pretty healthy. Aside from Xavier worthy.

Yeah, aside from like Xavier and those guys that have been injured, I think it's basic, yeah, here we go. So Xavier will be back, and then I'm assuming Matabouquet for the Ravens is still out, not sure on Kyle Van Nuoy if he's questionable or if he's playing or not. Who do you got, AJ? Man, I was leaning heavy Ravens.

I like that Xavier Worthy is back for the Chiefs. The Chiefs being dogs at home. Maybe that puts a little chip on their shoulder. Give me the Chiefs. Second time this year, they're dogs at home. Yeah. What happened at first time? They lost the Eagles.

First time since 2019, they've been dogs back-to-back-home games. The sports books, see what we see. Matt Moore was at the wheel. They see what we see. But that Ravens' defense is horrendous. With Xavier Worthy being back, this might be the week that the Chiefs... And do they get Pacheco going? They get the run game going possible.

Ravens have dropped like 40 years. 42 and 30. I think if the Chiefs try to score 30 points right now, it would take eight games. Who are you taking, Connor? Yeah, who do you got? I think I like

the Ravens. Sounded like that. All right, I'll go with Big Bubba. I'll take Bubba. Butter, I'm sorry. I'll take butter. Sorry, I got baited in the same Bubba there. I'll ride with butter and Green Bay in Dallas, obviously Sunday night football down there in Jerry World.

It's Maka or Muckles return on Sunday night football. And obviously NBC has a huge weekend with the Rotter Cup streaming all weekend on Peacock and on across their networks. And then on Sunday night football, they have a Super Bowl-like atmosphere as all the stars are going to be out. All the shit is going to be there. And right now Green Bay is favored by six and a half heading into Jerry World. Ty Schmidt, comfortable with six and a half? or is there a different line right now, Tone? That is it.

Okay, yeah, I thought so. Yeah, I'm comfortable. I'd say if the Packers would have won that game against the Browns last week, like 1310 instead of losing it, then I would have been a little bit worried just with all the pomp and circumstance surrounding this game. But I think they're going to be very motivated. I know it's like a storybook thing.

I really do think Michael might have one of the best games of his career. And the Cowboys are just so banged up. I know offensively DAC is still good but I don't see how they win they need C.D. Lamb. They just do. And their lines banged up too. And then obviously we're talking about everything DB. We saw what their

secondary was like last week. So I expect this to be a big get right game for Jordan Love in the offense. And I think Michael is going to be very, very, very ready to go in there and dominate. Yeah. And I like that you're reminding him that that's what Jerry was calling him

after all. We have a injury We got an injury report from yesterday for the Cowboys. Secondary seems to be trending in the right direction. Obviously, C.D. and Tyler Booker there. The thought of the secondary putting out another performance that they had like last week, I just don't see. I like that there's this much hype around it. I think Dak Prescott's a great leader.

Six and a half feels like a lot of points. Give me the Dallas Cowboys plus six and a half at home. AJ, your thoughts? Okay. I didn't see you going there. Six and a half does seem like a lot. but as Ty said, I think Michael slash Micah is going to be juiced. I think early and often he is going to get to the quarterback.

He may not have three sacks, but I think he's going to get plenty of pressures and I think he's going to wreak some havoc. That Green Bay defense is still legit, so give me Green Bay here. I don't like it. I don't like what I did there. Still time. Still time. Yeah.

To go the other way. Maybe they'll figure it out. I think they got their asses ripped all week. I really did. Yeah, big time. They probably had plenty of like... You think LaFleur was doing this to his coaches about getting louder when talking to the players? I don't know. It was the first, it was really like one of the first times I've seen him and I was like, wow, I really like what he's doing right now after a loss. Like, I really like this because he didn't...

He was pissed. He was absolutely pissed. He was, big time, big time. And he didn't call a great game either, so I think he probably knows that. But I hear what you're saying. Six and a half has a lot of points. And the Cowboys secondary could figure it out because they only gave, they gave $4.50 to Russ, and then they gave up a billion to Caleb, so they'll probably stop Jordan. Did you get that pizza? Eat it.

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I'll take the Green Bay Packers. Oh, okay. I'll take the Green Bay Packers, yeah. Just because Makka, I'd like Makka and his new friends go in there and say, hey, this one's for our guy here. This one's for our guy here. And on the flip side, though, what if the Dallas Cowboys locker room goes and says, hey, a lot of bullshit being said about our team. A lot of bullshit being said about who's our team, why is our team, what we need, what we don't need.

Obviously last week, not good. That's a lot of motivation, especially with the game at home and, you know, kind of the Super Bowl-type feet. They do like Shottie, too. It seems like the players like Shottie. I'll take Greenback. Give me Greenback, plus six and a half. All right. Let's get the hell out of here.

I got an opportunity to go meet Coach Katie of the women's volleyball team, National Change. Remember at the SB, she was celebrated because she was battling through cancer as she was also coaching her team to a national championship. She, by the definition, is an absolute dog. And I'm going to get a chance to go say hello to her. So that's obviously an incredible opportunity. Then I'm going to enjoy Happy Valley here and it's vibes. And then tomorrow morning, we're kicking off a great college football slate. And then an incredible NFL Sunday's coming.

And then overreaction Monday, especially after USA versus Europe, is about to be, I mean, absolutely. Absolutely paramount. I mean, we're about to maybe hit the climax of everything on Monday. And it's great to be fully in football season and know that we're going to have great games ahead because we kind of got teams figured out at this point. But who's real? Who's the contender? Who's a pretender in disguise?

We find out week four football with the Ryder Cup happening. AJ, I need you to make a shot. What was it for? What was the shot for? No injuries. Yeah, no injuries. AJ, this first one is for Team USA in the Ryder Cup. Hell yeah.

International ball? No, hold on. Hold on. Don't shoot the international. Yeah, I did not. It feels like a- American ball. Is that an American bagget ball?

All right. I can shoot this. All right. I guess he is. Which one? Want me? This one, no.

Hold on. I never shot at this. I think the international. Bruce is going to get a real ball. Yes. The international ball should be used for injuries. I don't think you should be shooting the USA Ryder Cup ball. We have a USA Ryder Cup ball.

Boom. Showcase those letters to that. That's the normal one. Oh, my God. That ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it.

Oh. Anyone over the USA ball in my God, damn it? That's not it. They're saying it's not a USA, Bruce. He's gone. He's going. I'm the hop. I'm a hop.

Yeah. We're hustling. It's for the rider. It might be on my chair. I'm a hot. Let's go. What's going on here, boys? He's guys.

He's just out to lunch. It's like this is wrong road. Oh, geez. Oh, no. Bruce here. Bruce is running. He's running. Where is it?

What caught? Oh, Mitt. Mitt got it. Mick got it. Matt got it. Outta boy, Mitt. Thank you, Matt. You could have kept that one, too.

That ball. There's a reason why we chose that one. This one's for the Ryder Cup, okay? That one obviously has got the stars across Wilson. And in your hand, a great American hand, is the fate of our USA team at the Ryder Cup. You put that ball in at hoop. USA's winning.

No. pressure, Europe will hold this over our heads for the next two years. On Hawk. I might go. Oh, I don't think we're ever taking that shot. He said. I thought it was short. Yeah, he was wrong.

It was plenty to do. Yeah. Perfect. That's it. Why? Yeah. All right. Injuries.

We need to international ball. International ball. Yeah. Here we go. For the rest of the season, all the seasons. No more injuries. Oh! I knew that one was good.

Yes, AJ, yes. We know that was good. I want to call it, though. Thank you for that. No injuries at all. Sunday, no injuries? Never. The rest of the year.

Today, tomorrow. That's so glad I made that. I'm very happy I made that, yeah. Me too. That was a lot of prayer. Now, the USA one, obviously, we'll let golf gods figure that one out. But the universe figured out the injuries right here

because of you, AJ, thank you for traveling. Indy. Thank you for making that shot. You're the absolute man, pal. Thank you guys. This is awesome. Hey, I think the Ryder Cup, can we get a quick tone? Are we up? Two matches? What are we doing? We are up in two matches. One match is all square, and we are down in one match. The afternoon guys are much. The guys that played in this morning and sat out this afternoon, I don't think they should play again. We're not going to see them. I like that. Okay. I'm okay with that. Yeah. I'm okay. I mean, we should get D.

Chambal out there strictly for Chambly or whatever the hell his name is, Shambly. Chambers Brantle Bison's out there he's playing morning and afternoon that's what we're talking about we need a little pizzazz

great work this week boys obviously a lot of hard work we're launching a show next week that we're editing and creating and producing that's a really good show behind the scenes there's been a lot of work done

by Bill by talk by dirty by Foxy and I think the world's gonna really enjoy there's been a lot happening at the Thunderdome behind the scenes and this week was a huge one so boys great work over there

I really appreciate you guys You too. Good luck. Good luck tomorrow. Yeah, have fun, man. I appreciate you. It's going to be an incredible weekend. We'll be back for Overreaction Monday. You all are the greatest people on Earth. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. If I change your life, Gumpy, you want to head over here, pal? Yeah, Gumpie's going to come join us. I kind of got the gumpy thing that Drew Aller had on me, you know?

Oh, sure. Oh, no. Anything to say to the boys, Gump? No, great week, boys. Good time. It was. Team on me. Hold on. Let me zoom out that one. Let me zoom out a little bit.

That's this one. That's wrong way. This way. There it is. There it is. There it is. Team on me. Team on three.

Have the greatest weekends of your life. I hope everybody does that. You ready, Gums? Yep. I need it to be loud in here, Gumbs. Oh, yeah. Back there, too, Thunderdough. This is a great weekend of ball.

This is a great weekend of sports. It's a great weekend to be alive. It's been a great week. And next week's going to be the best week we've ever had. Team on me, team on three. Safe travels back to Ohio, AJ. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.

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