The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1421 - TNF Preview, Kirk Herbstreit, Mike McCarthy, Cody Rhodes, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s playoff baseball games and look ahead to tonight’s three elimination games, before previewing tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the 49ers and Rams, and wrap up the rest of the stories around the league as we look ahead to week 5 of the season. Joining the show to preview both tonight’s Thursday Night Football matchup and look ahead to this weekend’s college football slate is color commentator for the NFL on Prime, and the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit. Next, Super Bowl Champion and former Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys, Mike McCarthy joins the show to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 4 of the NFL season, and preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game. Lastly, Undisputed WWE Champion, Cody Rhodes joins the show LIVE from the ThunderDome to chat about his upcoming schedule including a tag team match with Randy Orton, the PLE in Perth, Australia, his acting career, amateur wrestling background, and his beloved Georgia Bulldogs. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdow. On this NFL week five kickoffs Thursday, October 2nd, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It's magical in week five of the NFL season is kicking off tonight, which might be the best game of the weekend. But there are a lot of injuries as we head to the NFC West in Los Angeles, at So-5 Field. Whose House? Rams House. Matthew Stafford, Pooke and.

Nakua on record pace to do something that only Matthew Stafford has done with two other wide receivers before whenever you talk about receiving and what Puka's year has looked like has been immaculate and it's obviously a big part of the conversation about Devante Adams joining the Los Angeles Rams and now having multiple weapons and then you look at the young buck on the defensive side Jared Verson and the boys of Fisk everybody up front have transitioned so nicely into this generation this era of the Rams defense post the Aaron Donald era and this Rams team is a real deal. They started out as favorites of three on October 28th or, yep, September, September 28th. It's all coming together here. It's just start of the month. Yeah, yeah,

it's a rabbit, rabbit. It happened to September and. Yeah, it's carrying on here to October. And on September 28th, the Rams were favored by three. Now it's eight and a half. And obviously, that's because of a lot of injuries to the San Francisco 49ers. McCorkel Jones will be the quarterback because Brock Purdy is back out again. Obviously, had to hurt toe, came back, didn't look great. Now in a short week, let's go ahead and get maybe two weeks of rest for him on this toe after paying him a hundred and hundreds of millions of dollars this offseason. Let's make sure he's back healthy. Obviously, Juan Jennings is a masterpiece of the entire operation. Now, Ricky Pearsall, out, not great. Jordan Watkins, out. Robert Beale, out. And then on the other

side, Havonstein's a dog. He's doubtful. And Tyler Higby, he's also doubtful. But the Rams, much more healthy than the San Francisco 49ers. But the San Francisco 49ers got a resurgence from Mac Jones. They got Christian McCaffrey. They got Fred Warner. I know they lose the jungle cat. Nick Boe said they still got Fred Warner.

I got that's not fun around. And all the other guys on the defensive side that we love. Now, there is a stat that we got from Hembo. Kyle Shanahan as an underdog against Sean McVeigh is seven and two against the spread. Against the spread, seven and two against the spread.

Eight and a half is a lot of points for a division game on Thursday night. It is. Start out as three because that's what everybody kind of just assumes. These teams know each other. They're good teams. The injuries have certainly been a massive piece

of the sports books changing this all the way to eight and a half. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Now, Tone, I know that 95% of the betters that have been reported are hitting the over for Pooka Nakua's reception tonight, which is seven and a half.

Okay? probably a safe bet. McVeigh and Stafford. I think, Connor, what was the stat you saw? They're force-feeding Puka. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Puka has 503 yards. Devante has 269 yards. Tutu-Ablahs, 92 because of that touchdown, because the Colts don't know. It's 11-on-11. And then Higby is next with 62 yards.

So really, the split is Puka 503, Devante 269, and then Higby, 62 yards. Devante Adams is living the dream. Yeah. Devonte Adams is living the dream. I got an offense coordinator. It's force-feeding me, basically. And number one wire receiver, maybe of all time, depending upon how it goes, is on the other side, eating up the coverage for me.

And Matthew Stafford, this guy can spin it. He's like Aaron spinning the ball. So I'm always open. I'm always in it. So Devante Adams, obviously, having a great time. The bettors, though, how are they viewing this game other than Pooka's over of seven and a half? What is the percentage of money for the public? What is the percentage of money for the book?

Because we're at the point now where we got enough data where we're saying the massive publicly bet bets. are not doing well. If it looks obvious right now, it's obviously going the other way, is what stats are telling us. Is tonight one of those situations or what is the money saying tonight? So to your point, on this season,

if a game has 60% or more on a side, they are 10 and 24 against the spread, which is a 29% hit rate right now. So not every week when you ask me, was it the books or the public, it's been the books every single week. But tonight, you talked about how, Shanahan and McVeigh. Shanahan has been good against McVeigh's 10 and 5

versus McVeigh just straight up okay and then against the spread seven and two as a dog now that you go to the other side Shanahan not versus McVe, Shannon just as a dog just this is just straight up to win the game four or more points if he's a dog of four more points he's four and 23 straight up he's a dog of six or more points he's one and 18 straight up so he Shanahan has not been good he's losing the games that everybody says he's supposed to lose Yes, but he's been good against McVeigh,

so you've got to pick apart all those things. Can the Niners play without their starting wide receivers? They do have some depth there as far as some guys that they brought in. I believe Kendrick Bourne, MVS, guys like that that they brought in. So we'll see how Mack does with the funky bunch tonight. Kyle Shanhan, as underdog versus Sean McVeigh, including playoffs. The under is six and three. That makes sense.

Okay, so maybe they're able to make it a KG affair. Robert Salas, six foot four. We know he's an absolute monster. Maybe he's able to dial up something to stop this Rams' offense, which is very dynamic. I mean, they can run it. They can spin it. They can get their tight end involved as they need to.

And then their defense is just everywhere, seemingly. Now, there are any dimes in the boys, the Indianapolis coach, certainly should have had a win. But since they didn't, you wonder, the football gods on this Rams team side. Especially if we got guys dropping the ball at the half yard line. And is that happening for anybody else? Now it's happening for the Rams. What's that all about?

What do they got going on? We put that tail of the tape out back. This is the play I'm talking about, by the way. Maybe the football gods did come down and say, Jim Mersay, we know you've been trying to do as much as you possibly can, but let's go ahead and let us take it over this one, because we like the Rams. Let him drop the ball right there.

Half yard line. Third quarter. Down three. And then two minutes later, let's have him hold somebody on Jonathan Taylor's six in a touchdown. Okay. We get it. We get it. We're not going to win this game.

But the Rams get that win. Is destiny in their favor for the Los Angeles side. Now here's a tail of the tape record against spread. Total yards per game. Total yards allowed per game. Total points per game. opponent's points per game. Wow.

Eight and a half point spread. Okay. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. You see, and then second, third, 28th, 13th. Okay. San Francisco 49ers rush offense, not great.

Okay, that's weird. That doesn't make a lot of sense with Christian. Fifth total offense, fourth, sixth, ninth, 17th, fifth, ninth. Like, we're kind of all, a couple outliers there, but we were dancing in the same waters, these two teams. Shanhan and McVeigh know each other very well. Sala knows McVeigh very well. before his Jetson, obviously, he's back over there taking it.

So I am intrigued by tonight, and I think we need to enjoy this game. Let's go to the talk to the table at Ty Schmidt. I know baseball is humming, but tonight we got a great NFL game. Yeah, without a doubt. And it's weird because going into this with all the injuries, you're kind of thinking, or at least I was this morning, like, this game's going to suck. This is going to be terrible. And then you look at that, and it's like, wow, these teams are actually pretty darn even.

We'll see. I mean, I'm kind of coming back around on the, hey, maybe Mac Jones is the guy they they've needed all along. And granted, Brock Purdy was very hurt last week. But, I mean, if they're, you know, if they want to throw the football the night, they're down a couple guys. But Mack Jones, I'll tell you what, in his couple starts, he has looked capable. So we'll see, because the Rams, they are a team that, you know, they're in the quad box

every single week. And so, like, you've got eyes on them. They're good. They're fun to watch. So this is going to be interesting. I just hope it's points. I hope it's not a KG affair. Like, there's a good chance it will.

Now, there's a chance of Niners Faith will take that thing over there in Los Angeles. We hope not. Obviously, we hope it's a Rams house, and we hope that place is crazy. We can't wait to catch up with Kirk and Ow and Kaylee and the entire pre-show and nightcap squad. We appreciate them doing as good of a job as they always do. And we can't wait to watch. We might have Herbstree join us here in like 20, 30 minutes or so. I do believe they're in the middle of some potential meetings. We'll see if he has some time.

Just what he's here, you know? Exactly. Eight-a-half point spread. Division rival on Thursday night. It's obviously a lot of points. I assume that's what Coach McCarthy's going to say whenever he joins us in the next hour. But it's the injuries.

What's Shanahan's mindset? How's he going to keep him moving? We shall see last night, baseball. Hey, today, baseball. Yeah, yeah. Yesterday, Schwarbo, Cal Raleigh, on program. Baseball. In the offseason, at baseball.

Yeah. It feels like we've tried our best. The most we have done about baseball is certainly this season. And hopefully that only grows going forward as long as ESPN doesn't hold us back from actually getting to do it. Sure. one particular person that's gross gross what that person did just absolutely gross what that person did

but on that note MLB has been delivering for the people and it's been the stars making the place last night great baseball my wife and I wife not a big baseball fan captivated by socks and Yankees it was impossible not to and then the most electrifying man that I saw at homerun der jasm does this thing and comes and shows up big time for the Yankees and then a yinzer puts that thing away last night was awesome for baseball what do we have have today and what do we need to know about what happened yesterday? Yeah, so today we had the Dodgers clinch last night. It was a great run for Kirk's Cincinnati Redlegs. They got embarrassed pretty much two games in a row by the Dodgers. I kind of think is what everyone expected. So they're out. We got Dodgers Phillies now. Yeah, Shohei is pitching game one that has already been confirmed by

their manager, Dave Roberts. So that's going to be awesome. That's going to, yeah. That's in Philly. Exactly. Shohay v. Schwerber, Shohay v. Bryce Harper. We're going to get some very juicy matchups in that one. And then all of the other games. They were elimination games yesterday, obviously.

The Guardians beat the Tigers, the Padres beat the Cubs. And then last night you mentioned the Yankees beat the Red Sox. So we're running back all those game today. I've said it a couple times. Like last night is if you have nothing else to watch and there are no sports on, it's not a football night. Playoff baseball is, it's awesome because I know they talk about it and it's every sport. You know, every play matters.

You know, in like the NFL, first play of the game, a guy could, you know, have an 80-yard touchdown and that could be the deciding factor in the game or, you know, whatever the case may be. Like, it always matters. And baseball in the regular season, I don't think that really counts as much. But you could see last night watching this game, like, especially if you're a fan of one of the teams, like it's pins and needles every single pitch. because the way that game went last night, Ben Rice,

who didn't play in game one, a lot of Yankees fans were like, what the hell are we doing? This guy has been very good against the Red Sox. He hits a home run, and then we go a little bit later. Every time the Red Sox needed someone to answer last night, Trevor Story, he answered. The Yankees would go up, boom. He would get an RBI single.

And then this is later in the game, the Yankees go up once again on a judge flyout to the outfield, or it wasn't a flyout. It ended up popping out of Durant's glove. but story answered every time they needed to and then we got down late again jazz you know I mean I don't know where we're at right now

7-7 he's a blind man actually yeah I am this is based is loaded and you can see you know it just it's one of those things this pitcher if you these are the kind of guys that become stars during the playoffs

that's Fernando Cruz watch this this guy's a maniac he's an absolute psycho he does this pretty much every single outing he has. If he gets out of it, throwing his hat, screaming, like, really being kind of an emotional anchor for the Yankees. He's a madman. He's a madman. He's from Puerto Rico, and he's got the juice big time. And when their backs are against the wall, they needed him most. And then boom, Jazz Chisholm's on first base. Austin Wells, another guy, their catcher who hasn't been great. Singles to the outfield. And jazz goes

from first to home in 9.1 seconds and is safe. The Yankees pull up 4.3. That was a massive play because there was a lot of talk about his attitude after game one. They were interviewing him in the clubhouse and he kind of had his back to reporters. He was really pissed off. He didn't play. So they were going to say, you know, hey, how is this guy going to respond when it matters most? Well, there you have it. You know, he scores the game-winning run earlier in the game.

He had a massive play. And then you mentioned it. You know, the big guy from Pittsburgh, David Bednar, who the Yankees traded for at the deadline, comes out to renegade and gets a fly out with a little bit of trouble to end the game. So the Yankees, here we go. We got another game tonight. And we'll see. It was just, it was an electric baseball game. Yeah, I agree. It was absolutely electric. And Aaron Judge making a huge play there. Yeah. Because I saw a couple of bats late, obviously. Aaron Judge is going to be under a microscope all the time. Let's go back to Bednar, the Pittsburgh guy.

Because he comes out to Renegade. He's played for a Buccos, Pittsburgh fires. He's from Pittsburgh? Yes. He has season tickets to the Pittsburgh Steelers? He does. He's a diehard Jinser. Yes. And this guy was pitching for the Pittsburgh Pirates this year. Yeah, he was an all-star for the Pirates. Okay, so obviously this piece of trash owner says, let's get this guy the hell out of here. We've seen a lot of pitchers on the Pirates go other places and have success.

Diehard Jinser makes the All-Star game as a Pittsburgh Pirate. Owner, you need to get out of here. Sorry. You understand what this is. Send him on his way. So then he, renegade happens at Yankee. Field. Yankee Stadium. Renegate happens the first time. I saw it over the internet. And all Pittsburgh people were like, nope, can't have that. That can't be how this goes.

So he actually thought about getting rid of it because he thought he was disrespecting the Pittsburgh Steelers. Right? Is that not what he thought? He thought he was disrespecting Pittsburgh as a whole. And then he went and laid down at night and had deep thoughts. And what happened? How do he end up keeping this entire thing? Yeah, he basically said like I was, and this is verbatim from a quote that I read. He said he was thinking about getting rid of Renegade. And then he said, but you know what, like, I hear that, and it just makes me think about James Harrison sack and Joe Flacco, and I get pumped up. So I couldn't do it. That's the mentality he wants to carry to the mound, so he's sticking with Renegade.

And we said, get out of it. We had that guy. We had the Cy Young winner. Yeah. We had the bottom, what are we doing? It's great. This guy loves him. I thought of Jay.

Every time I'm jogging out there, I'm thinking of fucking Debo, just taking on Cleveland Brown's quarterback's head. Like, that's what he's, that is. And of course, the Pirates say. get him out of town. On that note, good to see you, Inzer. Good to see you, buddy. That's fun to watch. Baseball has been delivering. Shohei pitching is great news. Yes. I'm so in Philly,

in the bank, I believe is what they call it, which is obviously an insane. To who? To Shohei. You think Shohei's worried about anything? No, no. Tony's talking about he's saying good luck because there's a casino next to the stadium. Remember we talked to Kyle? And I think he's more worried about

impossible. On that note, those things happening around Shohei. Very regular. This type of noise at the bank, at the casino. Exactly. Okay? Spence, maybe. A lot of noise, a lot of notes, yeah, a lot of bank involved, you know.

Yeah. There's been a lot of noise around him with very similar things. There's going to be a lot of noise in Philly. And all he's ever done is just locked right in. He does not care at all. This guy, this guy is a special machine. Yeah. This show, Hey, Otty.

Baseball has been delivering. We appreciate baseball. Hell yeah, baseball. Well, let's go to some football conversation. Tom Brady, uh, asked Peyton, Manning on the first episode of Rushmore whenever they were trying to piece together the best four receivers of the football in the

history of the game. Tom Brady asked Peyton Manning, he said, you ever see anybody get open on Revis? You ever see it? He actually asked you think Jerry Rice could get open on Dorel Revis and Peyton goes I think Jerry would say he could get open on Dorel Revis and Tom Brady goes exactly. Nobody could get open

on Dorel Revis. There's a reason it was Revis Island. Dorel Revis was getting paid like a mercenary, like $25, $30 million a year just come in and locked down an entire half of the field. Hey, the other team's best wide receiver is going to have zero yards today. That is what Revis promised. That's what Revis got paid for, and that's

what Revis delivered for a long time. He was by far the greatest in the game at what he did. So Tom Brady, while making an argument for Gronkowski, said, blah, blah, talked about Revis greatness. He goes, Gronk could get open on Revis. That is, even whenever we had Revis in practice, I put Gronk out to, Gronk could get open on

Rivas. Nobody else could get open on Rivas. Rob Gronkowski, because how big he is, because how fast he is, because how he knows leverage, could get open on Dorel Rivas. Well, Dorel Rivas saw that, and he responded. And Dorel Rivas says, it's a damn lie, Tom. And I love that Dorel Rivas will always have this mentality. You have to at the corner position. You have to be like, no, everybody can get locked down. Anybody could get it.

And I love to Tom Brady said, Grunk, in practice, is getting open on this guy. And Rivas goes, I don't even care if the reps don't count. No motherfucker was getting open on me. that's the type of competitive spirit that you need, especially at that position. And on that note, Xavier Howard of the Indianapolis Colts has announced his retirement here before we go into week five of the NFL season. He obviously has had a great career. Xavier and Howard, obviously incredible name in the football world. Whenever he came to Indianapolis, we're excited to see what we had with Xavierin Howard.

First couple weeks have not been great, obviously for him. That is a hard position to potentially not be at your absolute best because who you're going against is they're getting younger and faster. So when you're out there, when you're exposed out there, there's a chance that bad things can happen to you and to the team. I don't know how it all came about. The way it read, because Lou Anirumo had a quote like on Tuesday about Xavier and Howard, like, we'll talk about that. We'll figure that out. And then that quote didn't really make its way around until like yesterday. And then like an hour later, Xavierin Howard's retirement was announced.

It was like, ooh, this feels like there was maybe a situation that happened. So I reached out to source in the building and they don't know. timing of the conversation or everything, but this was definitely Xavier and Howard being like, a fun run. Yeah. This is, this has been a good run. That's not a position. We saw Vante Davis, rest in peace,

a friend of mine, former teammate of mine, middle of a game, say, no, I'm not doing that. I am not getting out, because you can, I think you can know. What did it sound like? I think you can do, hey, I, it's a young man game, though. Rest in peace, Devonte, obviously legendary retirement there. But that is a real thing.

Whenever you're out there, and obviously I've never been anywhere near athletic enough to go out there, and we do have great Watts that have played that position. Without a doubt. And I certainly currently playing that position. But, boy, if you are outmatched, it is not a fun thing. Any play, because any play, you can get it. And everybody in the stadium is going to know. That's why the confidence, the athleticism, everything.

That's why that Reva shit is just outrageous for what he was able to do. And then there's guys that have played, like, 20-some years a corner. It's like, crazy. Outrageous right there, the athleticism that you have to have for that. Xavier and Howard retires but I think this is like this is like a good I don't say metaphor

but example of like the NFL is every generation's All-Star game so like you can be huh and then another class comes in and all of a sudden it just goes like that that's why the people that are great for a long time we have to respect because the amount of work

God given athletic ability but also like attention to detail that it takes to stay on top of the game is crazy so thank you X for coming to Indy sorry it didn't work out as well and have an incredible retirement, brother. I hope you enjoy all of it. Yeah, and respectfully, I think a lot of people who play Pook and Koo are going to retire the week after. I don't think that's exclusive to Xavier and Howard.

But with the Revis thing, that year you talked about him being a mercenary. It was that. The Patriots won the Super Bowl the year Revis was there strictly because, hey, half the field is completely gone. And then the other side they had Brandon Browner, who was also unbelievable. But it is cool just hearing from the Rushmore about Revis and about those greats in the game when Tom and Peyton were playing and just them talking about them and like those stories are so awesome.

I do hope Puka doesn't go too hard tonight because if he does then does San Francisco even have a defense tomorrow? Do they all retire? I think we have to ask that question. Pooka Nicola, the retirement causer. Boom. You know, there might become a list like Randy Orton was a legend

killer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For a long time and he was saying on that note, the American America road is going to be here. What? Whoa. 540 live in studio. He actually pulled up his rounds. Yeah.

Whoa. Oh. You know, I can't believe he's going to be here. Ben-a-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-bo. He's outside. Whoa! That makes sense. He's out there. yeah you got to do that whenever he's around no pyro the other night what's messed up no pyro the other night can't have that yeah we don't have to show it

certainly do not have to show it but he has a crown jewel in Perth Australia next weekend Saturday October 11th 8 a.m. start time obviously Australia it's yeah everything is the complete opposite side of the world beautiful place I've never been to Perth Australia's a beautiful place it is

very far though and they're going to fly a long way to see who's got it who's done that's right Coney Road Seth wrongs And before we get there tomorrow night in Cincinnati Smackdown, Cody Rhodes is in tag team action against the Vision, obviously, which Seth Rawlins created. Yeah, so they're throwing at everything at Cody Rhodes, and he'll chit-chat with us beforehand.

He's teaming up with, obviously, I think he's with Randy. I don't want to say it wrong. The Viper, I believe. I think he is with Randy. Okay, is he? I think so. Do we know that? Bohn did mention that earlier.

Okay, so Cody Rhodes and Randy Orrin are on team together. Okay. Must watch. How are they going to lose? Take it on the vision. Come on. Vision's pretty crafty now. They are.

That tsunami? Pretty crafty. The vision. The vision? Yeah. Because it's like the future. Kind of sick. And who's got it?

Who's got the vision? Is it this guy? This guy? Well, I think it's Paul and Seth got it. Yeah, they have. And then Bronzerie is. He's the, Bronzerid is. They're their vision.

Biggo. Their eyes. Their eyes have sight. Yeah. But their vision is Broner Brewn Breaker. Hell yeah. There it is. That's the vision.

And Paul Hammond's got good eyes. He does. Always has. Good eyes. Good tongue. Good Mike. Sure. Great tongue.

Great. We've seen. Maybe some of the most silver tongue of all time. Yeah. You can say that. Let's talk about Shador Sanders. Okay. Ooh.

Do we have to? I know. Do we? Because it's bad. Should we just do the whole thing like he did? If we're going to be honest about it? Holy shit. Are you kidding me?

Content creator, good. Sure. Okay. If he's a content creator, sure it is good yeah okay like if he that was a hilarious response once again this is just like this kind of goes back to the anthony richardson conversation that kind of happened a year ago it's like when you're a quarterback it's just a different animal like being a quarterback is just a different thing you're the CEO of a company you're the face of a multi-billion dollar operation like that's what

a quarterback is me punner could get away with being a dumbass in certain things don't have the spotlight on me all the time shador third string quarterback fifth round pick obviously has a massive spotlight on because of who he is, the success he's had, how many people follow and like him. And also, you know, the family he comes from is a very important piece of the entire puzzle because that particular family, the dad happens to be one of the greatest athletes to ever exist. Not just one of the greatest football players, just athletes of all-time motivators, businessmen, musicians, we'll even say. Sure. Good at everything.

So family is going to be followed. Him being a part of that, obviously going to be talked about. So him responding to Rex Ryan saying, I don't need to hear you, I'll hear your mouth. I don't need to hear you talk I don't need to hear another word from a third string quarterback which is not just Rex Ryan's thoughts that is pretty much anybody that's in the NFL's thoughts because it's hard enough to win a game already

this happened with Tebow, okay, the Tebow effect, Tebow mania hey we don't need added distractions because of a backup quarterback or a third quarterback life's already hard enough in the NFL to get a win we don't need to be bringing more bullshit to our locker room which is probably why you didn't see Shador get drafted until the fifth round. Now, allegedly, there was Ravens, and who knows how many other teams that won to draft Shador, and they said no, declined, which once again is a whole other conversation

that's happening around NFL buildings about these people are declining opportunities to get in the NFL, like what are they, like you have those people that just live in NFL buildings. So him miming his answer about Dillon Gabriel becoming starter and him still being a third-strand quarterback, hilarious response to somebody that's talking shit about you or to you, especially whenever they say, I don't want to hear you. That is a... Pretty clever. That is hilarious response.

I would like to say, on the record, hysterical response. And people have said, hey, I don't want to hear the punter before. And I wish I would have thought of this idea. I would like to say that I wish that was the case. But much like everybody else is kind of reiterated, this is like a content

creator type thing as opposed to maybe an NFL quarterback. Now, all he needs is one team to want him. Okay? So who cares if you piss off a bunch of decision makers with this? Who cares if you legitimize all the worries about you being a distraction or something not taking a serious or do you want the best for the team? All that. There's people that are going to be able spin that in NFL buildings that this is not good for us to have in our building. But once again, all he needs is one team to be like pretty clever actually. I like the way he's talked to shit back. I like how he's maintained his moxie throughout this entire process. I don't think Dylan

Gabriel, even though people are taking his quote in saying he's taking a shot at him, it's like it feels like Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, even when Kenny Pickett was there, there was never like beef towards Chador, Sandh. And Chador was doing a lot of community stuff before, and it was never like beef towards Chador. It is heightened

awareness, heightened clout because of who he is. So he knows, he has to know that and understand that. Everybody's going to talk about it, but like, there's definitely people in the NFL that are like, exactly. That is exactly what we thought. But you don't really hear Dylan saying like, Kevin, you don't really hear anybody that's actually in there being like this guy is a nuisance or a pest or drama or controversy or anything like that.

But there is a lot of shit that gets out that you just think to yourself, well, that's not a desirable thing that we would want to see from a third string quarterback for our team. That is kind of what people think. But it's like Shador's going to get covered in a different way. How many times does ESPN Cleveland radio have an iPhone on the third string quarterback? Right. So it's like never normally. I was the third string quarterback for the Colts for a couple of times. and I wasn't asked questions ever.

So it's a gift and a curse. Everybody knows what's coming with Sanders family and what it is and how it's going to be, just like with Tebow, just like Manz. All these people that get labeled potentially a distraction. There's going to be people that hate it and every move that happens legitimizes that hate. And then all you really need, though,

is just one person, one decision maker to be like, I don't mind it, we can handle it, if it gets in our building, he'll be good. We'll see if that ever happens. Well, probably kind of hard too for Shador just because him and Gabriel came out at the same time. They played college at the same time. And, like, it's probably easy for Shador to look at his stats in college and, you know, Gabriel's stats in college, whatever, and maybe think he's better.

It just doesn't make any sense for him to kind of come out and do that whole thing. It just creates drama immediately. And you mentioned Tebow. Like, Tebow is the only comparison. And if you were to go back and, you know, listen to Tebow or watch his stuff, he's not doing that shit. And then Tebow eventually, you know, I forget if he was the starter immediately or eventually got an opportunity. but he wasn't doing any like bullshit to make some sort of storyline like this is not a story if if chador just answers the questions honestly or unless he answers them honestly and it's like

yeah i'm way better than this fucking guy which he might excuse me but but like i'm not going to talk why because if i say something it's not going to be and also i don't want to hear me and i'm be honest i don't want to say what i got to say yeah exactly yeah what if chador thinks this is the greatest out i don't know what you want me to do i was told i don't want to hear me but i can't get my actual answer. So you want me do coach speak? Yeah. Yeah. That is what NFL rooms want. Now fans, his

followers, his supporters, sports media, obviously we've all talked about it. Everybody has hit it. We love that this is happening. But I don't know if it's necessarily the right move for an NFL career, if that is what you're looking for. But we don't know what you're, once again, all you need is one team

to be like, that's fucking hilarious. We wish we would have done that to Rex Ryan, actually. I don't know if you had any guys like teammates like this when you were playing but like is there a point you're okay you get chumped up you get choked up? I hear you saw the Yankees tonight

I mean it's a walled bug I'm sorry but he got emotional last night I faced time with him last night was much better of face time than the ones that I have been having sure yeah 40-40 time I would just lost it was a little more pleasant it was a little more pleasant but like you mentioned like

we haven't heard anything about the other quarterback's in the room or Stefansky being like, hey, we're sick and tired of this guy? But at what point would like maybe an old, like a vet go up to him and be like, hey, you've got to stop doing this shit. Like, just shut up. Every time you say something, it is becoming a distraction. Like how much of that is actually leaking into the building, you think? I don't know. I don't think anybody said anything about him into team, which I think is the only thing that matters.

For us, it's all fodder. As soon as the locker room starts talking, then we'll start taking it serious. And then there was people that were saying Dylan Gabriel, I think he's your Shador Sanders fans saying that Dylan Gabriel took a shot at Shador. Dor Sanders. Listen to the entire, this is 51 seconds. And then he says like a very cliche almost answer about how people in professional sports have described getting their first start. I think it's funny because, you know, I got a text from a good buddy of mine and he sent me a picture of a fire station, you know, and like, it's kind of like, why are you sending that, you know? But when he sends it, you know, he just lists the obvious, right? Like, doors are

open garage doors are open like things are ready to go and like they're just waiting on that phone call to like respond surgically and like just what a great representation of like the job I had and being ready for that moment and I think you know I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you are extremely excited for but also got to realize that it's extreme focus and that's what I've continued to harp on but hell yeah you wait for the perfect time You know, you're going to wait a whole lifetime, so for me, I'm just, I've always been ready. Well, Shador has a song called Perfect Timing. This is shot at Shador.

It's like, nobody's ever said, like, hey, no perfect time's coming, or if you wait for a perfect time, it's never going to show up. It's like, I think he handled that amazing. Dylan Gabriel has handled this entire thing perfectly as well. It hasn't been easy. Because he's third round draft pick. First quarterback drafted, too, Cleveland Browns. He probably thinks I'm about to have a great NFL career. Yeah.

Like, I'm trying to have an incredible NFL career, as he should be thinking like that, especially after how he He played in Oregon everywhere but the Rose Bowl. And then at Oklahoma with why he ended up going to Oregon because of how good he was. And all he's done, he said extreme focus and staying locked in. He hasn't said shit. He hasn't done anything. There's been so much loud, loud, loud around him about the guy getting drafted after him. He probably started to worry actually about maybe everybody's working against me here.

You know, like he probably started feeling like maybe I'm not even getting an opportunity, like negativity kind of slip in. And he never let it waver, never waver, just as continued to go about it. I think he has handled this perfectly. And that was not, the internet loved hearing that that was a slight. And I am very quick to be like, oh, that guy, that guy's kind of taking a shot at that. I thought that was like almost a cliche answer at the end of the entire thing. And I'll also say, perfect timing, great song.

So both ways can kind of be right at this particular point. Tell you what, DG's got a very wise friend. That fire station thing, I like that a lot. Doors are open. Okay. Garage doors are open. Just wait. Just waiting for the time.

You got to be prepared. And he said, that's all I've really thought about, extreme focus. And if you wait for the perfect time, it's never going to come. And we've talked about that with rookie quarterback. It's like, man, if he goes in there now, he's going to play. Like, this team, he's got to play. This team has got to play. This team, it's like, hey, that's the NFL.

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has been since he's got there has been since he's been in college and anytime he does any of these things there's either people that are going to say yep just like we said and then all he really needs though is just one team to like that and bring him in and maybe he has a great career but let's not talk about shadore let's talk about Dylan gabriel here now he gets his first start in london obviously he's taking on the carson went's experience and a biflow defense that is going to be difficult but whenever you think about Dylan Gabriel what do you think about whenever it comes to handling this entire situation this is a tough situation for a third round draft pick who's trying to make his career and then a guy that's drafted two rounds after him

is obviously the topic of conversation all offseason all training camp even when he gets his start topic of conversation he has maintained kind of locked in laser-like focus I love the way he has handled it he obviously has a chance with his arm what do you expect from him with the browns and has he always been this guy that is like the utmost professional seemingly here yeah I'm with you I go back to anytime you're looking at a young quarterback I I personally look at how many reps he had as a collegiate quarterback. This guy was at UCF for a few years, and he went to Norman, played at Oklahoma, and then obviously finished it in Eugene.

And the only reason I bring all that up is this guy's dealt with a lot of different circumstances and different kind of pressures, especially when he stepped up from UCF to Oklahoma. And so I think that really hardens a guy, you know, when you deal with the ups and downs of playing quarterback of some of these high-profile places, and you have so many reps. You know, that's why I think Brock Purdy was able so quickly after a four-year start, four-year starter at Iowa State to be able to step into the NFL and seed the game pretty quickly. And I think Dylan Gabriel reminds me of that. You know, he reminds me of a guy that had a ton of reps.

You put him in that offense with Kevin Stefanski who understands how to attack and how to be decisive. I would tell you, even though he's young, I have high expectations. Now, he's not your typical 6-3-6-4 quarterback, but because of what I just brought up about how he understands how to attack defense's weakness, I think he'll be put in a position to make quick decisions, and I would not be surprised at all to see him go out and play well in his first game. And what you brought up, I think he understood when Chador Sanders got drafted that there was going to be a lot of attention on Chador. And he was in a very unique position of being drafted ahead of him, but not be talked about a lot. And now here he is. Even this week, he's the starter.

Part of me wonders if he's okay with that. Part of me wonders if he just, you know, let my play do my talking. And, you know, he's going to have a really, as we all know, Minnesota, what they do defensively with the different looks, they'll pressure you, especially young quarterbacks. They'll walk seven guys up. They'll come. They'll drop. his head's going to be spinning but I don't know

I got a feeling he'll go out there and I'm not saying he's going to light it up but I don't think he's going to be a deficiency I think he'll play well and I think he'll play fast because of how it'll be prepped for that defense Aaron Rogers played fast against Minnesota Vikings defense last week in Ireland it looked

good now obviously Aaron Rogers 20 some years in against NFL defenses we'll see what Dylan Gabriel 64 career college starts brings into the NFL yeah that's a lot that's a lot They just did the This weekend

I wanted the Hall of Fame for West Virginia No big deal Thank you thank you Thank you guys bro Shout out to Penn Speech one take Unbelievable

Yeah he had to do his One On the college game day College game day set In front with the speakers up In front of I don't know 8 or 10,000 Penn State fans And knocked it out in one take

It was pretty remarkable And they even sang Country Roads It was fantastic Yeah it was great It was a nice I appreciate them helping there. I was told on Wednesday,

because there was still, like, a thought on me trying to make it to Morgan's out for the entire thing. Timing-wise, wasn't going to work. And then also, my family, like, my wife had a vent or two to go to. My dad was, like, I felt like that should have been a family thing. So it was, you know, fall is crazy for us. At you, I mean, obviously we see, but all of us fall is pretty crazy. So on Wednesday, Matt Wells, remember Wellsey, the assistant athletic director, was like, hey, can you send a video that we can run at least? And I'm like, you got it.

I completely forgot it. about it. Like, I, I, I'm like, I am so sorry. I'm so sorry. Was he a good guy? He sends me a text on Friday. He's like, hey, man, all good, just wondering if you get the video. Friday, I'm already at Penn State. We don't have a, so am I going to do an iPhone video? I don't think so. So literally I'm like, I text Matt Garrett the night before. I'm like, hey, can I use the stage tomorrow morning to record something? I think that would be pretty cool. I also, because college game, dance, college football and everything like that. Yeah, no problem. So I didn't think it's through, though. I was like, this is literally the only shot that I got to do this thing.

Once I get up there, I didn't even realize we got to stop the music because there's DJ Griff is crushing it out there since like 5 a.m. Stop the music completely. Do you want us to play the speakers to the people or not? I'm like, oh, no, I didn't even think about it. I thought I was just going to be able to talk while music's happening, would not have been possible. So I'm very thankful that they kind of bought into it. And they actually shaped kind of the speech because they started with each shit pitch and immediately. So as soon as I turned around. Good improv. Good improv on that. Hey, thank you.

As soon as I turn around, I was like, hey, I've got to do a Hall of Fame speech, and they're like, congratulations. I'm like, thanks, thanks, yeah. It's obviously I can't make it because I'm here. Is there any way you could help? They're going to show it at West Virginia or whatever. And they go, yeah, the crowd's like, yeah, yeah. And then as soon as I turn back around, they go, eat shit, bitch.

I'm like, yeah, okay. Yes, you do know. You do know what we are trying to get accomplished. So I appreciate them doing that. But in the video they ran, I learned a lot about my college career. So they put together a video. they put together a really nice video and I'm very thankful and I learned a lot about my career was

kind of like you know nice because in that speech I talked about how since I've left I've only thought about one game one night the entire time how it was the worst night in my life like that's all I've thought about with my West Virginia career and if I hadn't thought about it somebody will remind me of it so that's literally I went to school there for however long all time leading

score you know all that shit only thing I think about is the worst night in my life basically so then kicking punning kickoffs like you did it all man I didn't I didn't realize that my I went back and watched the presentation and the way they led to it. I was curious to see how that went. And I was with you.

I was watching that video like, holy shit. Like this, how many guys do that today? How many guys are punters and kickers and the kickoff? Like, is that, that's very rare, I think. Yeah, now remember, I retired at 29 staring down my fourth knee. I kind of blew this thing out. You know, I maxed the, I maxed the legs out. But in there, it said, I had 51.

starts or something like that for West Virginia. And at the time, it was like the most, I forget, like it was like nationally ranked for amount of games and amount of starts and everything. And I'm kicker, so is it even a real start because it's not first play? That's a whole conversation. This dude having 64 starts. Is that what you said? 64 starts with 2111 past attempts.

And see, you know, Pat, I think at that position for obvious reasons, that allows a guy who's a rookie, who on the NFL, it moves so fast, which it does. But I just, if you do it, if you go back and look in the last 10 or 15 years, look at the

guys that started for three years plus and look at how they were, now chances are still it's tough to make it in the NFL for these quarterbacks, but the guys that have the best chance are like anybody. Like you do something more often. You see more coverages, you make more mistakes, you learn from those mistakes, and you got me, that time, I'm going to get you the next time. And I really think, I'll tell you, jumping right into the deep end, going up against the Minnesota defense and the scheme.

But that's going to be a great game to watch. Just to watch Dylan Gabriel go out and see how he can execute. 9.30 a.m. hopefully it's not a blowout. We're waking up with you over there. And hopefully Greg Olson's back on the call. He was awesome on Sunday morning. We got a good cast right now. It feels like calling game.

Some people are getting attacked weekly. But, you know, it feels like the shot clock is on for everybody. Let's talk about the game tonight. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Herbie, I think a lot of us are surprised that the Niners are eight and a half point dogs tonight to the Rams. But from talking to Kyle Shanahan, what have you heard from him on not only the amount of injuries that they're going to be dealing with tonight, but also Mack Jones starting under center again? Yeah, I mean, take your team, the Packers, and imagine taking down. And I know you guys have had to deal with some injuries.

but I don't know if I've ever seen a team that's decimated by injuries more than the 49ers. And not just this year, but the last four or five years. You know, they've had such a great window here with such talented players. And it just feels like Debo is now in Washington. Some of these guys are getting older. Has the window is it beginning to close? And then this year, you know, it starts off early with Kittle being down. Hopefully he'll be back in a week or something.

So now you've got Ricky Pearsall, who's kind of become their number one receiver, down. You got Ayuk, who's already been down all year. And then you got Brock Purdy, who's dealing with that turf toe, a different level of turf toe than Joe Burrow. They thought, you know, you guys saw him try to come back last week, re-aggravated it, short week. So they're going to go back to Mack Jones, who was dealing with his own injury himself with a knee. But thankfully, he's able to go.

He's 2-0, by the way, as a starter of this show. year. And so he'll get the opportunity. But you're talking about DeMarcus Robinson, who's a former Ram, who's going to be one of his go-to guys tonight. You're talking about Kendrick Bourne, who Mac Jones played with in New England. And you got backup tight-ins. The good news is Christian McCaffrey is there. So I wouldn't be shocked to see him try to carry the offense tonight, not only running the ball, which has been, by the way, kind of an Achilles heel for San Fran. You know, it's a matter of time to

to Kyle and this offense will get their run game going. Hopefully it starts tonight. But even if they can't, look for him. Look for Christian involved in the past game, obviously. Just the more weapons they can get on the field that they know what they can do, the better. Meanwhile, they're going up against a Rams defense. You could argue playing as well as anybody right now in the whole NFL. I mean, we always think of the Rams.

We think of Sean. We think of Stafford. We think of offense. This defense posts Aaron Donald, the way that less need their GM and, and Sean have gone out through the draft and pre-agency. They're D-Lines playing as well as anybody in the league, creating all kinds of problems so they can play zone. That four does all the work.

Everybody else has their eyes on the football. So they definitely have their hands full. But like the Dolphins and the Bills a couple weeks ago, you never know, man. Just what it looks like, San Fran has no chance, you wouldn't shock me at all to see them somehow rally around that theme of no chance and play well. Shanahan as an underdog to McVeigh is seven and two against the spread.

How about that? So as an underdog against McVey, now against everybody else, he kind of stinks. When he's an underdog, it's basically like the sports books are on. But against McVeigh, Shanahan seven and two against the spread as an underdog. It started at three on the 28th of September. Now we're on October 2nd. It's at eight and a half because of all the injuries. You talked there a little bit about one of the weapons on San Francisco that they didn't have last year.

But the running back position as a whole is kind of having a little bit. bit of a resurgence here. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Herbie, I'm pretty worried about CMC. He's the leading receiver and leading rusher, and they don't have, I believe, or sorry, second in receiving, first and rushing, and they don't have Pierceell who's first, and Jennings, who's third. So I'm kind of thinking

CMC might get 55 touches and tackled 65 times somehow. What do you think about the running backs in this game? Do you think this is going to be kind of run the ball because the 49ers should be so focused on Puka and Devante, or how do you see this matching up? Is that

Does that mean take the under? Is that what you're saying? Under. Also, hold on. There's a stat here the last 10 times or nine times that Shanahan's underdog to McVe, the under is hit 7 and 3, 6 and 3. 6 and 3. 6.3. The underdog is hit 6 to 3. 6 and 3. You got all kinds of good stuff. It feels like that, Conner. I think a lot of people are local media and Sam Fran are really all over Kyle in the office. about the run game. You know, we always think about you guys as a great running team and haven't been able to get it on track. And I've heard some of the players and Kyle talk about, you know, we're very close. It's all 11 guys, you know, whether it's guys that work in a double team or the back

finding the right hole or receivers blocking, you know, it's kind of a collective effort when it works and when it doesn't, same issue. But we all know, even with these injuries at receivers, really a matter of time until you can get Christopher McCaffrey on track. Like I said earlier, hopefully if that happens, the one thing to remember watching this game, the Rams defense in their first four weeks, the opponents are averaging third in like 9.4, basically third and 10.

If that happens tonight, if that trend happens tonight, it's going to be a really tough night to throw the football if you get those obvious passing situations. The beauty in running, if they can get it going, is you put Mac and Matt Jones more of a play action game and throw on your term. So that'll be a big thing tonight. But the backs on the other side that you alluded to, Connor,

Kyron Williams, very, very underrated back in my thought anyway. Oh, yeah. It just brings a personality and a toughness that seems to kind of resonate and really kind of provide some juice for the entire team. But he doesn't get talked about it much because of obviously Matthew Stafford and Puka and Devante Adams. But I really think you go back to the Super Bowl in 21, that team. to now. That was more of a shotgun. O'Dell Beckham spread people out, let Stafford work,

and I think they've evolved to become more of a blow you up, run downhill, under center, physical, and then play action to Puka and those guys with Stafford. So the backs on the other side, and Blake Corman, the young man out of Michigan, is doing a hell of a job along with Tyron Williams. So it's a physical, physical game typically between these two teams and the Rams, I think, confidence in that style. Yeah, I believe in McVey mightily. Believe in Shanahan, too. I have like that kind of natural thing. And then people throw stats in my face all the time. People throw stats about Shanahan all the time. Because when they have bad years, it's real bad. And it brings down all the other one or the other. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, I'm like, I believe in Shanahan. Man, I saw him look

real cool at a beach house, throw the football across and what garbage can. I'm like, I like, I like I'm with you. Both these guys. Both these guys are as innovative as we have in the NFL. They have been for years. And I think they really love competing against each other and just kind of finding out. And Kyle Shanahan, I don't know. He goes into this game. It's like, oh, everyone's hurt. They have no chance. I don't know, man. I think this is one of those games where he's like, my scheme's pretty good. I've got a lot of confidence in what we can do. And yeah, it sucks that we got all of our all of our bowl players are down, but we still got some guys, you know. So I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised to see them rally around, you know, some of that doubt. It's kind of people are already assuming, okay, that's another loss. So they're four or whatever it is, three and two. So move on to the next game. I don't know, man. I think they'll come out and swing. I believe we lost power here to our lights at the Thunder. And we are back. We're back. Shout out to the uninterrupted power source uh coming in we got pretty interrupted but also we are still live still live on you

uh still live which is great kirk you were sending so much good shit that electricity kind of double crossed it's hell yeah and kind of tore hey you you talked our lights out that's right peter it was peter i love that about pete how about pete you had an article written about you and your dad being a fucking dog handler you guys guys got ads do you see his ad oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yo peter is the right one if it means anything he is this dude's paws are bigger than your hands yeah his paws are bigger than your hands

he is hey good boy hey think about people turn on their they know he's barking out he's barking at him

but I agree with everything you're saying about Shanahan I literally do but if he say it too loud in around the wrong people, they're going to pull out 100 stats. They're going to say Shanahan and A. McVeigh, I don't want to hear it. So just know that before tonight. Tell Al, we said, what's up? He's 10

and 7 against Sean in lifetime. Okay, it's another good stat. These are all good stats. These are all good stats. Let's talk about some of the other teams around the NFL, obviously, teams that you have seen. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Herbert, you're on a bit of an NFC West tour. Last week, you had the Cardinals and

Seahawks, and the Seahawks kind of, you know, they kind of had control of a lot of that game last week. And now this week they have Tampa coming up to Seattle, which is one of the better games this weekend. How do you feel about the Seahawks as a whole and then this weekend? Because I'll tell you what, I watched them play the Steelers too.

They look like a good football team. So I've had a chance to see Green Bay and Washington. I've had a chance to see Buffalo. And then you mentioned last week having a chance to see Seattle. I tell you what,

it's going to depend on if Sam Darnal continues to play the way he did last year, the way he's looked so far this year, if they stay healthy, obviously. Of all those teams, Buffalo feels like, you know, they're, because of Josh Allen, they're up there. Green Bay feels really good. I could easily see a Buffalo Green Bay Super Bowl. That'd be a fun one if they can stay healthy.

Seattle was dangerous, man. What a great matchup. Baker Mayfield and that offense going up against that Seattle defense. What's weird is Seattle wins on the road with Mike McDonald They can't win at home It's the craziest thing Like you would think the 12th Seattle

You can't go in there and win That's not been the case at all They've been road warriors I think they've only lost one on the road Since he's been there But at home they can't put it together But I think Seattle's for real I think this NFC West is

Depending on San Fran if they can get healthy But the Rams I think Can't wait to see them in person tonight In this game Because the way they've looked up to this point. And anytime Stafford's healthy, and you've got Sean McVeigh and Puka and all that offense, but their defense is playing lights out. So NFC is a lot of fun. Not just the NFC West, the entire NFC. It's going to be a hell of a run as we move along this season.

Yeah, late year of football is going to be electrifying in the NFC West. McDonald has won. How many of how many? Nine of his first 10 road games. That's pretty good. That's pretty good mental toughness. That's pretty good mental toughness. And remember last year, Seattle's Seahawks, the 12s you're talking about, we all are big fans of, they gave up their stadium a couple different times. They had

lost faith. Yeah, yeah, they lost their stadium twice. Buffalo Bills went in there and stole it. I think on a Monday night football, Bill's Mafia went in there and stole it, and the Packers, I think, went in there and stole it. I think the Seattle Seahawks fans did a lot of like, you're going to have to show us, buddy. You kick Pete Carroll out of town. You kick Gino out of here.

You're going to have to figure it out. I think he's the right guy. I think we all... You better get on that bandwagon fast because they're going to win a lot of games this year. Not all Seahawks. fans. I would like to make sure that's... They're still very much a active Seahawks fan base, but we saw their stadium get stolen twice last year, and that never

happens. They're like our representative in the NFL. Hey, what's stadiums? At Cincinnati or Nashville, you know, that's a regular occurrence, but not in Seattle. That can't happen. Whenever, let's say a hooligans over from Europe. Give us your best atmospheres.

We're going college. We're heading to college. You saw the Whiteout. First time of life. I was going to say it, but that's strictly five days ago in my life. Sure. Well, that's aside from West Virginia. And in there, well, of course. People, people kind of, when you're in the SEC and you say you've got to go to the Whiteout, that's not, I'm like, I'm

telling you, the Whiteout and that Penn State student section, who I think is the best student section in the country, they drive it. So I think the White Out is right there. And I I think LSU at night, when they have a good team, playing against a good team, that's obviously right up there. And I think Neeland Stadium, I think we forgot how good of a spot that is in Knoxville. Now that Josh has them back up, competing, and chasing playoffs, that is a really tough environment, intimidating environment. So those are three for me. What about you?

We got to, I think I'm on your side there. I think you know more. But in the NFL, it's Seattle is who we're thrown out there. Pittsburgh, Seattle, Green Bay, New England when they're rolling. Baltimore, Philadelphia, like those cities, but the Seattle Seahawks ones are the ones that have always been like our rep. 30 seconds here before hard out.

Alabama, Vandy. How cool is this for Vandy to have this moment? And also, Alabama. Before I flew out here, Pat, I visited with Diego Pavia just for a feature for Game Day this week. And, man, are we allowed to go to Tuscaloosa and pick Vandy? We're not allowed to do it. I'm telling you, I've been talking to him a little bit too

in the DMs. There's no fear. And Clark Lee, I'm like, holy cow. These dudes are for real. Bama's coming off a massive win last week, as we know in Athens. So they got a ton of momentum. I feel like their quarterback really grew up,

became his team. So I think Bama, obviously, the team to beat, but do not laugh. This is not the old Vandy. These boys are for real, and that quarterback is coming off, coming in pissed off at the world. We'll see him tonight on Prime. You're the man, ladies.

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He's a monster and hilarious. 32 years old, he's going to sign another $7 trillion deal. He's hitting bombs for the rest of his life. I like that he has a great attitude and is funny. Cal Raleigh, the MLB's lead. home run hitter joined us yesterday. And then last night, one of the most electrifying baseball games I've seen

in some time between their biggest rivalry, Red Sox and the Yankees took place. Shout out to baseball happening in a big way for us on these middle of the week days that has been happening. Tonight, though, it's week five of the NFL season. Hell yeah. The Rams host the Niners. The Niners

have a bevy of players on the injured list. It's a Thursday night. It's a quick turnaround. And if your guys miss on Thursday night. They get an entire week and then almost another week. So you've got a two-week kind of rehabilitation recovery that you can potentially get for some players. So we've seen Thursday night opt-outs more often than Sunday opt-outs. With that being said, Brock Party misses a game. Sandwich by playing a game poorly. Will he become a guy that we know him to be after this

toe injury? Or will Mack Jones thrust himself into the prime time spotlight as an eight and a half point dog on the road in slicing dice, a very good Los Angeles Rams defense. So many different storylines can come from tonight's game. We cannot wait to watch the NFC West do battle. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt. Yesterday come, man, I saw World Series champion hat on. You guys lose last night. You just represent the city with the hat.

I like the move, Ty. Don't you, Ty? Yeah, I love that hat. Yeah, just like, remember, City of Champions is what he's trying to say. That's what he's trying to do. Because the Red Sox yesterday, World Series hat, because he came in here dancing. on the Yankees. Yeah, rightfully so.

Then they lose to the Yankees in a thriller last night. He comes in with just like, hey, don't forget City is still still. Yeah, it's not just the baseball team that we're worried about. Are you worried about the Red Sox? And are we back to Patriot season because of how last night went, even though there's still another game?

Yeah, I don't know if I'd say I'm worried about the Red Sox because I watched the first four ratings and then forgot the game was on and then it was the ninth inning all of a sudden. I actually talked to Connor last night during game. Okay. I'm sitting with my wife, okay? I'm not a baseball person my wife is somehow less of a baseball

person than I was before we started getting into baseball this year and we're captivated Sox, Yank, like we are tuned in So I call Connor to talk to Connor about like Yo, this is actually pretty sick Conner was the game's still on I'm like Connor

That could not be how this is You got some other stuff obviously Ideas were working I appreciate you doing that Last night's game was awesome Yeah I mean it legitimately was and the Yankees winning a tough one is good for the Yankees or do you think because there's many moments last night

where I thought you guys were out like the Mets like the Mets actually just got a couple day head start on the off season over the Yankees as opposed to it last night I thought it was over a couple different times did you feel that way as well and then your big stars come through for you is that good news for the Yankees if you're a Yankees fan yeah without a doubt I mean you like we've seen these games for the most part outside of the Dodgers Red series

like these games are all close they just they all have been because none of the bottom of the roster guys are playing. Like all the, you know, they, the Red Sox last night used one of their, you know, best guys in the bullpen who didn't pitch the night before the Yankees, you know, use their guys. And like, this is, this is what's all about. You're, you can't win a World Series if, like, a guy like judge or, you know, for the, the, uh, the Red Sox, Trevor Story or Alex Bregman.

Like, you, you can't win unless those guys perform. It just doesn't really happen. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's another one of those things where it's weird because typically baseball doesn't come down to one game to decide your season. You know, you have like the, but this is it, you know, so, and they've kind of both thrown their better guys. So both of the guys who are starting in this game. I hate it. I hate that the Yankee socks is at 808.

Sox. Got to be. I understand that's how you feel. Daddy's playing. Daddy is playing. It's league. We all have multiple view, you know, it's like you can figure out a way to watch both things. Oh, you think I'm time and prime?

What am I doing? That's the thing. I've got it to that. Move it to six. Why is this thing going on at six o'clock? That's the one thing with Prime that stinks. So, yeah, you might have to put Prime on a smaller TV or watch it on, and heaven forbid you might watch on your cell phone.

Watch what? Watch the football game on your cell. Well, good. Well, he knows. Sometimes you got to do it. You got me more of these opportunities. I understand. I appreciate that.

But, man, they started yesterday at 608. And I didn't love that. You didn't love it? No. I loved it. It was so good. I think it was over 930 or something. Yeah, I know.

And honestly, I hadn't thought about that yet. It was like, you know, wow. I'm going to be going to be like one tonight. But I would have been anyway because of Thursday night football. So it's not a big. It's funny you mentioned that because for a second there, I did forget that tonight's game is on Prime. So you can't just do the old split view. They've got to figure that out.

They've got to figure that. YouTube TV, Google needs call Amazon. From my understanding, they are certainly willing to work together. Of course. Yeah. Part of source that. There's a couple of them. We got people who want to watch playoff baseball and football game on the same night.

Come on. For the good of sports. Google, part of the fangs. They're a fangs group that he's all trying to. compete with each other in there. We need Amazon and Google to put their swords aside on Thursday nights. If the Yankees are playing the Red Sox, and let us quad box Amazon in. Please, let us add one in there so that we can enjoy this thing.

Instead, Amazon's going to have us do what they do every single Thursday night, force us to live on their platform and be watch these commercials where everything else that we watch, we can just go somewhere else. But instead, I hope they're charging more for their commercials. I've told this to the powers of B at Amazon. Hey, the thing I hate about you guys is I can't go anywhere. Yeah. I'm stuck doing the commercial breaks.

You can go look at what else is available. Of course, of course I could do that. Would be nice to be able to just hit the old back arrow button and go right over the Red Sox and Yankees. Exactly. And an elimination game, don't do that though. I got to go out of you. I got to do the entire thing. So Amazon has us in that case.

So they need to be charging more for their commercials because I'm forced to sit through. Yeah. I really see. The Amazon wants. Forced to. You're right. I think that's where I saw the ass MCDC commercial, right?

Is that where I? Probably. Probably. I don't really get to see a lot of commercials these days because they're archaic and stupid and the 30-second ad does not work.

You know, you kind of linear people who got it all figured out. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone is here. Big one tonight. What's the percentage of money here on who? I was actually shocked.

It's only 15. 52% on the Rams. Let me make sure it hasn't changed. No, or 53% now on the Rams at home. Probably because the number's so big. And, you know, I personally think a lot of the general public doesn't find out about these injuries until game time. They turn on the TV and they're like,

oh, shit, I bet on the Niners and they don't have any of their wide receivers tonight. But, yeah, right now it's just 53% Rams. All right, be a friend, tell a friend that's gambling out there that there's injuries happening. Joining us now from An Attica in Ohio is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and now a Hoff nom. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. That haircut looks so cool. That haircut looks so cool.

You got to shape one, I think. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's going to take a little bit of time. How about you talking about commercials? How about the YouTube TV where it says, enjoy your Zen? And there's no commercial. You guys ever get that? Love that. I almost fall asleep. Love it. Can we sell? We can't sell that space, or what do we do? Well, I think they're potentially trying to sell that space, but their time might not match up

perfectly with whatever the network's time is for commercials. like, I think Rich Eisen's the last person I saw had to do it. He had a radio out, a TV out, and like some other out. Do you remember those days whenever shows had to do that? Like, we're back. Wouldn't they be

doing it? Yeah, oh yeah. As they're going off the camera when they're simulcast, they're reading an ad for the radio show that they're doing. Yeah. And I guess I don't know how or why YouTube TV has more space. Maybe it's because the local ads don't run on YouTube TV. Oh. So those are like the 30-second local ads that may be don't get sold or don't happen or whatever it is. So that moment of Zen is pretty nice.

It's nice. It is. It's pretty nice. It's good. A company should think about buying ad space and calling it. Yeah. From. Presented by whoever.

Right. That'd be a good one. It wouldn't be. Because I love that moment, Zen. I do too. I do. And I immediately just look at my phone. Sweet.

I'm not going to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Big go. Can you put a countdown on this thing? Right. Can you get a countdown for how long I know somebody's in? And I know it's working for somebody.

But for me, it's my daughter's, got something going on where I need to do something here. But tonight, big one, AJ. Rams, Niners. Niners very injured. A lot of stats coming out that Shanahan plays McVeigh very well. Fred's still playing on the defensive side. McCorkel Jones, obviously, is potentially in the middle of a mid-career resurgence

that we have seen a lot of players have as of late. And then Christian McCaffrey still exists. So what are your thoughts on how this game goes? And eight and a half is a lot of points, brother. Yeah, it's the first thing I thought of eight and a half is a bunch of points, Then I start thinking of that Rams defense, and I love what their D-line does. I like how they run at all three levels. So I would say right now I might be leaning Rams, but I am not 100% confident in that pick yet.

I don't know who I'm going to pick by the end of the program. But I still think the Niners, I think the Niners still could possibly keep it close. That's why I'm not fully decided. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Super Bowl champion, a man who is obviously one of the greatest Yinzers of all the time, like David Bedno. Yeah, sure. Yeah. closer for the Yankee. Did you hear this, AJ?

This guy. Get rid of them. Why wouldn't you get rid of them? Why would the pirates want? They got a haul back from the Yankees too. Oh, we always get halls, brother. We know exactly what to do with holes. I'm just kidding.

They didn't. It was paying big time. They're like, Jesus Christ, the Yankees just threw them three bums from the farm system, and they gave them their All-Star Closer. What the hell's going on? Joining us now is a man that would not have made that decision through the city of Pittsburgh. Guy who most recently was the head coach of Dallas Cowboys.

Before that, he was the head coach of the Green Bay Packers. I think he spent time at the San Francisco 49ers. And hell, he might have been a bar keep at someplace in Pittsburgh while he was growing up. Ladies and gentlemen, our coach, Coach Mike McCarthy. Hey, Coach, how's it going? It's going great. Good afternoon, man. Did you see that Yinzer last night? No, I missed it. I apologize.

No, it's baseball. Not a lot of people see it. But their numbers are up, though, to be clear. Bednar, David Bednar, Yenzer, Closer, for the Yankees, okay? Beginning of this season, he was closer for the Pittsburgh Pirates, made the All-Star game, has Renegade as his walkout music, and of course

that Pirates owner, Coach, says, get this guy to hell out of you. Who's going to pay this guy if he continues to be this good? Now he's Wild Card winning games for the New York fucking Yangas. And he still comes out to renegade, Coach. He comes out to renegade. And the reason why he said

he had to do it, because there was certainly some discussion. Renegate, obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers. song in the fourth quarter. Oh, Mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law.

There was a lot of conversation about, like, you can't take that to New York. What are you doing, buddy? And then he said, all right, I'll get rid of it. And then he laid down in, and he pillow talking with himself. Every time the song comes on, I take the James Harrison, just take somebody's head off. I have to keep that as my song. This guy is a super yinzer

was on the pirates. They said, Get him the hell out of town. Coach, that's part of the problem, but I think we should respect Yenzer for doing his thing on the biggest stage. Don't you agree? No, absolutely. I mean, hey, once a Yenger, always a Yenger.

You got to love that. No, question. Do you see what the other Yinser relief pitcher did last night? No. Mason Miller. What do you do? Through 104, we went two scoreless. Did he put pretty good?

Can we just keep? No, he was never on the Pirates. Oh, I was going to say, geez. Come on. He was on the A. This is the Yinser? Where's he from? uh he's from bethel park oh really bednar's from mars just go part time the owner of the pirates had no

fucking idea this guy's just okay anyways let's move let's talk a little ball here coach we'll talk a little football here uh we're heading into week five of the season i think injuries have starting to really take over some teams like the niners tonight which we'll definitely dive into at some point but week five obviously it's october now you talk about thanksgiving being when it matters what do coaches know by week like what do you think coaches are thinking at this point as we're done with the first quarter of the season and now we're trying to navigate the rest here coach well i think just like anything you know you've already touched on injuries i mean you know every year you're going to fight injuries that's just a matter how many uh you know when they you know when they come and and who you know obviously with

position sometimes you get overloaded and you know if you go right to san francisco i mean it's to have this many this fast i mean it's that's a difficult challenge uh with without a doubt. But I think when you get out of September football, I mean, in my opinion, I've always felt the September football is a little sloppier. You know, you've got the training regiment with the new CBA. You don't really get to, you know, train as much in certain aspects that you really don't find out about your team, you know, until you really get into these regular season games. So, you know, I'm talking more about the fundamentals and so forth and, you know, run defense, running the ball, you know, pad level, footwork, you know, the fits, the communication on

defense, all those things kind of get it. So I think we're clearly, when you get past those four games, you know, you obviously, you have tendencies. Rules are more and more defined, a little more clear for your players. You know, you may think that, you know, sometimes you get into games where you're heavy two-minute offense and you're playing more 11 personnel where you wanted to be more 12 and 21. So, you know, you've got things that are going on in that first four weeks. So it is always, I've always felt week five and six is usually a time where you're looking at hopefully schematically shift some gears and move away because when I look at schematic football, you know, I use your baseball analogies here. You know, you always want to establish your fast balls and your curve balls, but then now you start to change up some things like that. So I think that those things start to come into light when you get out of September and you get into this phase.

But injuries, it's just they're always going to be there. And when you have a bunch early, it is challenging because now your younger players are playing probably a little earlier than you want them to play. We actually got into this a little bit last year in Dallas. And I think, but, you know, the benefit is in the long run, but these younger players are getting ready for November, December football. And, you know, history will tell you that your young players are going to be playing in some of the biggest games of the year at the end of the season. When it matters most there, and you have to reestablish what your fastball is, whenever you have a new cast of characters, especially at a bit of. important positions. I mean, that is quarterback being the most important.

Like, what is our fastball now with McCorkle Jones at quarterback, let alone everybody else? Then we start get our curveball, then we get the sweeper, the splitter, the sinker, you know, then we start working the jerk. You know what I'm saying? Like, Dave Bednor does. Yeah, and then another guy from Pittsburgh. Mason Miller.

May I'm Biller or this guy. He's got absolute heat. But you're right. Establishing who the hell you are is certainly a benefit, but then whenever you get injuries, it's like, well, who are we now? It's like a never-changing situation. Injuries 100% right, every team. You just got to hope it's not at a key position.

Is that what every coach and GM's doing? Like, we know injuries are coming. We just pray to the football gods that it's not at like one of our pillar positions. Is that an accurate kind of feel that you guys all have whenever you go into a season? Well, I think the obvious is, you know, certain positions are affected more by change than others. And that's just, you know, that's just the natural part of the game of football. But you really don't want to see anybody, you know, have serious injuries, you know, significant injuries where, you know, could affect their, you know, the whole season or a significant amount of time. So that's, that's really the, you know, I know what I'd always hope for because, I mean, it's the fact of the matter, it's, it's a violent game.

Players are going to go through the, you know, injury phases. They go through it in their career. So, I mean, it's really part of the game. Availability is the most important ability. And that's the fact of the matter. especially in today's football, you know, with the way things are set up, the best thing that can happen to any football team, especially a young football team,

is they get to practice every day together, and they line up and play every day together, particularly, you know, through September. Because that's how you build that connection and get the momentum. You've got to find you've got to learn how to win sometimes when you're doing with a younger team and then you get on a role. But, yeah, the injury part of it is there and it's challenging, especially for these two teams playing tonight.

I mean, when you have the injuries on a short week, I mean, that really manifests itself even more. Niners go from a three-point dog to an eight-and-a-half-point dog as the injury report continues to roll out. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, speaking of that, like with injuries, when a team, especially in offense, is ravaged by injuries, has a lot of injuries, maybe you have a backup quarterback plan.

Can you explain what it means when coaches say they're going to like dial down the game plan? They're going to shrink the game plan and make it easier, I guess, for say, a backup quarterback. I'm not saying they need to do that for Mac, but is that something that coaches will, like how do you do that? How do you scale back when you have to put somebody else in that doesn't have been much experience? Or Thursday night game plans in general. I think just

kind of all of that kind of going into one. Yeah, I mean just I'll start with the Thursday night game plan. I personally, I've always put in more in the previous week you know, and anticipate the carryover that you'd have from, you know, the Sunday game into the Thursday. So because you

know, you want to, you still want to have enough volume to be able to have the flexibility throughout the course of the game. So But, yeah, as far as dummy, I mean, really, it depends on who your quarterback is, frankly. I just think that, you know, now we get into the design of the quarterback room. Do you have a true veteran, you know, quarterback is what experience is the profile of the quarterback, the backup quarterback, you know, physically, and his attributes are aligned with, you know, with the starter, which I always preferred. So, because you definitely want to make sure you're given your offensive personnel, the opportunity still to be successful and contribute to the team. I think the biggest thing is the complement of football value goes up even higher when you get to your backup quarterback.

It's just, you know, the ability for the offense to play to the defense and vice versa and field position and those types of things, you know, just the emphasis on time of possession. Really the vitals of any game, taking care of the football, you know, just as far as, you know, I think just like anything in life, you get what you emphasize. Mack Jones, first love, Shanahan, number three overall pick. Let's trade away everything. if he has another incredible game is this toe injury we're going to wait we're going to wait until this toe injury is 100% with Brock Purdy

how much does the coach understand about the potential drama outside of a building with this type of stuff especially at the quarterback position Brock Purdy comes back still injured doesn't look great last week Mac Jones two weeks ago looked unbelievable if he was to look great again tonight

that's good for the team I think having two good quarterbacks is obviously a great thing but do you have to think about the drama like are you reaching out to Brock letting him know he's our guy regard like how does that kind of get managed by head coach knowing that there's going to be shit outside talking about what you need to not get inside yeah i think the noise is something

you're really working on and managing every single day it's based on how you interact daily how you communicate daily uh that quarterback room i'm sure it's very very close i've never been in one it isn't um so yeah i i don't think that drama is is something that's really dealt with in the room. And if it is, then you probably got to look at the things that have led up to that point of time. It's part of the game. And the fact that, you know, they'll be able to stay right in rhythm with how they want to play conceptually, how they want to play against the Rams, you know, which as we know, as we know, the Rams defense is a big challenge. So I, yeah, I wouldn't be thinking about that in person. I wouldn't be thinking about that at all. And I'm sure Brock is helping back,

get ready for the game, and that's the type of quarterback rooms I've always been a part of. Thinking about that at all, it's a good thing for a yinzer to say. I just want to let you know. I'm going to add that to mine. To mine, I'm going to say, think about it all is a pretty good little, a little bit of a run there if you drop into some yons. I love that. I feel like I'm learning about myself while talking to you. It's a beautiful thing.

Go ahead. You're all fire today, brother. Oh, I are, boy. You're the one that's all far out there. I know you get some of that coffee you're drinking, that's for sure. Oh, brother, every day, you know. You got me sitting up. It's coffee.

It's not just the coffee that's smoking or you. You can go there. Well, I did try to give you something. Yeah. Well, in the minute. That's right. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Appreciate your offer. You did. You were very kind. I was like, huh? Yeah. No, thank you. It was obviously a good moment in our relationship.

You talk about quarterback rooms being tight, though. Let's talk about that a little bit more because it's on display, I think, in Cleveland. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Coach, right now. now Dylan Gabriel is getting the start for the Browns. Shiger Sanders did an interview and I'm just now realizing I was supposed to send it to and I did not but

Shudur basically doesn't answer the question he just kind of mimes what he would say to the reporter's question. Yeah, there it is. We don't need audio because there really isn't any. What do you think about this? It's kind of tough just because they're both rookies, they're both in the same class.

How can you handle this situation as a coach and then also will this help a door because now he'll get more reps as the backup versus the starters um so he's not speaking there no he's miming he's doing like a full on like okay good um very well done great gimmick so rex Ryan yeah so coach this is where it came from so Rex Ryan and many others were basically like I want to hear from the third quarterback for the brouts basically like hey we don't need to hear that that is basically what they said. So the next time he had a camera in his face, once again, third string quarterback,

fifth round draft pick rookie, has cameras in his face because he's Shador Sanders. They knew that whenever he's coming into the building. He decides not to make any sounds in. Everybody doesn't want to hear from me. Okay, I'm not going to make any sounds. Good content creation. I will say, genius idea, expert level trolling. They like phenomenal stuff here. As a coach, though, Stefanski, obviously on the offensive side of the ball as well, we haven't heard really Dylan Gabriel say anything negative, Joe Flacco saying anything negative. Kenny Pickett saying anything negative.

Nobody in the locker room, really. It's all just outside noise. But that quarterback room is a sacred place. Dylan Gabriel, I think, has handled it very well. And now he's having an opportunity to obviously play against a B. Flores defense. But how do you manage that type of stuff? The word distraction gets tossed out a lot. And obviously, it's a terrible word in the NFL in most professional sports.

How do you manage that? Especially at the most important position in the most important room of the team? Well, I mean, just seeing the video. they're alive. I mean, my first reaction is, I mean, don't we all, don't we have a sense of humor? I mean, I thought it was kind of funny personally. Yes. But I think really, I know just being fortunate to be a head coach, you know, at the beginning back in 06,

we're, you know, really social media kind of, you know, really took off. And AJ will remember this situation. We had a situation where a young rookie took a picture of Josh sitting in a hot tub. And then it hit social media. So that was like the first time that I had to actually. be educated on what exactly is social media, Instagram, and so, and then you learn to deal with those things. And so I do think it is a time and place deal. Uh, content is real. I mean, I am very well experiencing content because I just worked at the content enterprise of the world

the last five years prior to doing this great show with you back. So, uh, it's, it's very, you know, it's financially beneficial. Uh, and there's definitely some gain in that. So, I mean, that's so I look at as from personal. But as a head coach, absolutely. You don't want any distractions. And I do agree with Gregs. You don't want to hear about the third string quarterback. But I think the really thing is, the question is, you know, what, you know, what are they saying in Cleveland? And, you know, I would think that, you know, going back what I just said earlier, the quarterback rooms are, you know, quarterback rooms, offensive lines. I mean, some of those, those rooms are some of the closest rooms that I know that I've been able to witness over the last 30 years in this league. So

And so as long as those guys are okay in the locker room because the most important room in the organization, it's the locker room. And I've always believed that. And just as long as those guys are right, because it's all about the football. I mean, we're going to laugh and things are going to do things. Some guys will do something little stupid than others that will cross the line. But, you know, long as it's not too far over the line, you're pulling back in because you do want everybody to beat themselves. AJ We used to talk about all the time with the leadership guys. you know we want the personalities of everybody in our locker room structure rules and you know

and how we want to operate within our culture we want we want everybody to be themselves because everybody will be the best version of themselves so um and is that first time it's ever happened an interview without any audio that's i mean that's probably you got to give them you got some kudos multiple questions yeah so but yeah i i don't i personally don't think that stuff's a huge deal, unless it's an issue in the locker room. And I think you just, you know, I think like a lot of things in life, we all probably need to learn how to laugh a little bit more. So that's how it hit me when I first saw the video.

I love that. AJ, he wanted all everybody's personalities to show in a locker room. Is that why you always flipped off the coaches after you made plays? Could be. Oh, he was flipping the coaches off. I didn't realize that's what that was. Oh. I told the story to the trap where I got called.

into your office, coach. It might tell. Yeah, I had to tell you know, this is an inside. It's a joke where it's going on between, you know, myself and Winston-Mawson linebacker coach at the time. No other coach. It was a joke. We were all laughed about it. But, Coach, the locker room situation, you said the- I don't know if we all laughed about it. Sounds like a new piece of information's coming through.

Coach, Mike wasn't laughing. It was funny. It was funny. We laughed about it. We did last. It happened. It wasn't caught on camera by CBS or whoever did it. But, Coach, the locker room, you mentioned. I know you made like an active effort to stay out of the locker room and kind of keep the coaches out of the locker and not always walk through there. Can you explain what that was about and why you did that?

Well, I just think like anything is that, you know, our facility grew there in Green Bay. And, you know, at that time, you know, back in 06, I just felt like you guys didn't really have your own space, you know, and, you know, everybody has beliefs about developing group dynamics, connection and so forth. And, you know, and there's just conversation that amongst players that, you know, hey, I know I'm a cool dude, and you guys want to hang out with me all the time, but, hey, I don't need to be there. So, I mean, I thought, you know,

I just felt that, you know, you guys needed your own space. And if you remember back in, because, I mean, you, you were with me from the, from day one is that's when, you know, the access into the locker rooms with the media and everything kind of all went to a different level. So, you know, I was always just very cognizant.

It was, you know, one of these guys are going to be able to be guys, you know, just be themselves because, you know, It's a hard way to make a living, but you've got to have fun. I mean, the game of football is fun. What we do, working hard, grinding and get ready each week. I mean, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of joy and happiness that goes into that process. And that's where the whole belief of that came back in 06 was, you know, where these guys are going to be able to hang out and laugh and joke, you know,

doing the breaks and so forth. And it's amazing how it changed. And I don't know if you feel this way. I can remember the times when you did walk through the locker room the earlier days, guys were, you know, a lot more interaction talking, and then as time went on in my career there, and it's the same, you know, I'm sure everywhere now, you know, you walk through the locker room and everybody's got their phone on. No, no, you got to keep that away.

You've got to have some, you're saying that. Well, they got to have, you got to, in the locker room? You're saying everybody has turned into that. This generation has turned into everybody kind of isolated. Well, yeah, that's just, hey, I mean, it happens at home with my kids. I mean, it happens when I get in the car. So, I mean, I just think it's, you know, those things changed. So I think as a, when you talk about culture, the facility and how you want people to interact and all those, you know, you think about all those things, you know, we're, you know, not only the time and space, because, you know, we'll come five o'clock, you know, some guys are going home to family, some guys, you know, everybody's got something different.

You know, I always loved that when you guys would get together, you know, away from home. I mean, it's, and really one of the things I end up changing the schedule was away games was we left as early as we could and moved everything back a little bit because I wanted the players to go. to dinner together, you know, on the road. And I thought that was something that was very beneficial to our position groups and things like that. So, yeah, that's, you know, that's just a way, you know, I've always thought about it is, you know, how you got to, you know, everybody wants to talk about leadership and culture and, but my job is to create those opportunities for those things to happen organically.

That's a, that's an incredible way to view it. Obviously, never got to play for a team that you coached. But scheduling a little bit earlier so that the boys have time to hang out is wonderful thought. I think that is the key ingredient to winning. I think as a team has to like each other. I think they have to hang out. AJ and I talk about this a lot. The teams that I've been on that have been good, which is a lot of them, have gotten along.

Like, hey, you need to have friendships there. So understanding that as a coach, I think, is a beautiful thing, genuinely. And you talk about one of the biggest storylines of the entire NFL season. Not really a lot of chatter from the locker rooms, mostly from owner and then one player. And then media. The biggest game of the century happened down in Jerry World this past weekend. Some will call it the McCarthy Bowl. Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, a lot of people were calling it the McCarthy Bowl, and it delivered on all accounts until, you know, we had a tie, and basically you might as well not even play the game, and it was a huge waste of time. That's kind of how... You're saying not played a McCarthy Bowl? We shouldn't even play? Well, yeah, after watching it, I was like, you know,

just gave both these teams a loss. This bullshit. We just wasted all this time. is not fair. But Coach, what did you think of that game overall? Do you think it lived up to all the hype? Obviously, you know, Jerry was pretty jacked up that Michael didn't just completely destroy the game. And then the ties. You've got to have some opinion on this, how we can maybe eliminate these from the game. Just what are your thoughts on that whole situation in general? B.A. B.A. Yeah. Yeah, B.A. We talked to him and he basically said, hey, the 10 minute

overtime was because of me, because we ran about 100 plays in a Cardinals game, and we wouldn't have been able to practice or play on Thursday if that would have been the case. So I said, hey, listen, we need a 10 minute overtime. But his idea was, hey, both the offense, both offenses, you get one play from the eight-yard line against the other defense. And then you go in, if you score, obviously, you know, the other team gets the opportunity. If they score, you keep going until one person doesn't score. And then we ultimately have a winner because it's not going to add a bunch of plays for guys, and we should get a result pretty quickly. Todd, that was a hell of a sermon.

I'll try to answer your six questions. Come on, get them. First of all, come on, some McCarthy Bowl down there. That's a big deal. And it ended in the worst possible way. Come on. It did. Oh, no, I agree.

Yeah, I agree with that. But the fact that it was a McCarthy Bowl, and they didn't invite my ass, that's bullshit. That's the first I heard of that. So, but I thought it was a great game. I really did. I think both teams have a lot of similarities. They're young teams with arrows pointing up. So I was not surprised that it was a close game at all.

I know the way it started, you know, in the first half, you know, everything was leaning towards Green Bay. But the way, you know, the battle back and forth, I thought it was a very entertaining game. And I thought a lot of young guys stepped up and, you know, both teams having some injuries and so forth. So I thought the game had everything. everything you wanted except the ending.

And I do agree with the, you know, the tie thing. I mean, you definitely want to see a resolution where there is an opportunity to have a winner. I know personally, I've had two ties as a head coach. And I think really, and AJ remember this in 2013, actually helped us because, you know, came down to the division record and so forth. So we were able to win the NFC North on an eight, seven, and one record, battle through with a ton of injuries that year in 13.

And then the second time was in 18, we had a game. And actually both teams, both the tiles were against the Minnesota Vikings, which actually killing my goddamn didn't, my division win percentage, by the way. We don't want to get into that. So we had two division ties. But in 18, but in 18, AJ, if you remember the game, it was really, I'm sorry, but 18, it was early in the year, hot, went, you know, crazy, crazy number, and going to B.A's point.

I think we had probably 80 plays on offense or 77 plays on offense. We had a perimeter player that had probably the highest GPS number I've ever seen. And then we go into the fall in week. And we always adjusted the numbers of practice, reps based off the GPS numbers and so forth. And we had a situation in practice where this player, me, the assistant coach and the player went on to St. Page, he practiced too much during the course of the week.

And then the fall on Sunday had a fatigue injury during the game. And I always, you know, that was one of those things about. those, you know, those overtime games and ties and, you know, Green Bay has the point I'm making is, you know, Green Bay has the by week this week, but, you know, I'm sure Dallas is being cautious with the guys that have those really high numbers because, and that's where, you know, B.A. was saying, I mean, because those players are at risk, you know, for fatigue injuries and the training after an overtime game is, you know, is very important as you lead into that, not only in the following week, but, you know, the week after as far as, you know, the

angulation, the peaks and valleys, how you train going into that. that game. But yeah, that second tie against the Vikings, you know, on a noon, noon game, hot day at Lambo, you know, I always felt that that carried over. And we lost a dynamic growner player for, you know, a good four or six weeks on a fatigue injury. Oh, so that is probably another thing that was stated whenever the 10-minute thing was brought up because it wasn't a 10-minute one. It was nothing. And then it was a full quarter. Then it was 10. Now it's like if you score a field goal, you can match. It's like they've tried to get it right. It feels like playoffs. We're trying.

Playoffs. We all say, okay, we're playing until we get a winner. Good. That's how it should be, and everybody wants it. And then you hear B.A. and McCarthy both like, we're trying to get through a fucking season. So let's not, you know, because hockey will go like six, seven periods. Oh, yeah.

Like that thing would just keep going. And then those guys have a game like two days later. And it's like, how do they even survive? Football, there has to be an end, especially with the amount of contact and everything. And Jerry Jones, we're up the three-hour window. We need to make sure we're staying a three-hour window. Okay, because we don't want one game interrupted another game. And what our studies have told us, three hours optimal time for a game in there.

Obviously, Jerry has that answer. And he also was quoted as saying, they got Michael, we got our guys, and we tied. So let's move along with the questions that you are asking. I don't like that you were invited. He messed up, no, I think I could have got in if I needed to. I'm just kidding. Yeah, but we should have let you kick off that game, man. You should have been doing a kickoff.

Well, I just thought, I mean, I'm talking kickoff. Yeah, actually kickoff. Yeah, actually doing kickoff, you know, for both teams, first kickoff. We could have made some money off Jerry with the T-shirts or something. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. For money, Jerry. Yeah, a little mac if he's showing the top there.

Oh, hey. Yeah, we would have been paying Jerry for that one, I think. So, I don't know. Money's coming or going there. Jerry's seemingly always collecting. You're going to have the right guys selling it for you. Yeah, land, you're right. Got McCarthy going dire.

I got all you for them I want to do to kickoff. I got a tow thing I'm going to hit. It's going to be great. All right, Tony has a question for you about something not named the McCarthy Bowl. Yeah, Coach, I have a question about the Ravens who are not off to a good start, especially for their standards. And I saw a tweet from Dan Orlovsky this morning who said, they are the 32nd ranked team in a rush attempts on first and second down.

They are not running the ball in first and second down. When they do, they're running for six yards carry. And last year, Derek Henry ran for almost 2,000 yards. So my question is, why do you think teams go away from things that are working, especially the run game? It feels like teams, the run game will be working, and they go away from it. And the Ravens specifically, he hasn't rushed for more than 50 yards in the last three games. What do you think is going on with the Ravens in general?

Well, I mean, we're not seeing every game and going strictly through stats, but I do think this. I think you've got to really watch statistics in the first four weeks. I've always waited to the fifth week to let things, you know, start to fill. Because you do get into crazy games, you know, you may have an overtime game that really pushes the stats, offensive a lot higher than they probably really are and no different for your defense. So I think you do to watch that, but I think we all do understand that the Baltimore Ravens

when we get the week 17, 8, they're going to be running football. So I think it's just probably a great, very big. reminder who they are, your division that they're in, but I think you have to look at the type of games they've gotten themselves into. You know, when you go up against the Buffalo bills and you get into shootouts and things like that, you know, sometimes those run attempts aren't what they should be. And I know that personally from the play caller. I've always, always tried to adhere to the formula of ball distribution. If you, if you can get the ball distributed 55 times to your perimeter group with rushes plus completions, you know, you're

you're doing your job as a play caller through the quarterback to get that ball distributed. So, you know, I think that's something when you just go pull that number out of there and say, oh, they're not rushing a ball enough. You got to look at the whole picture. So without sitting here and known exactly what type of games they were in, you know, where they're high shootout games, they were behind, you know, all those things play into that. But, you know, Baltimore is at their best when they're running and doing all those things. and throughout John's career there.

So I think this is just more of a, it's been four weeks, and it's a great reminder, you know, just to get back to who you really are. He fumbles a couple times, too. They get all upset, got to punish him. And I know a couple more is trying to do. He's trying to run a score up, you know?

Yeah, that's what I'll try. Oh, come on. Jesus, you don't forget anything. Yeah, pretty accurate. I won't forget what you say about tonight's game. Okay, NFC West here. Now, I know you're not picking games. games, because that's not, obviously, don't have that type of pressure.

Don't be doing that, though. Yeah, can't be doing that. Of course. Don't even know how it works, but if you were, you'd be doing really well. You'd be doing really well right now. If you were to be picking games, tonight, this thing started as a three-point spread. It has moved over a matter of a few days to eight and a half. That is huge for the NFL, but that's how many injuries have kind of been rolled out. Mack Jones will be starting for the Niners again, taking on Matthew Stafford and a Rams offense that might be historic whenever it's all said and done with receiving. Pooka Nakua is leading everything.

If he was to stay on track right now, he would beat Calvin Johnson's record for receiving by 175 yards. So he has a lot of room to kind of 175 is obviously a game. He is ahead of a game at this point, so they can certainly have a little bit of an off game and still be on track to break a record. And then Devante Adams, the number two wide receiver. He's getting to see defenses that he hasn't seen ever probably because of how good Pooka is on the other side.

McVeigh, Stafford, force-feeding. Puka and Devante Adams as well. Tutu Atwell obviously had a long touchdown, but other than Puka and Devante, the past distribution chart is heading directly to those two. And then obviously the run game has to get going, and Higby at tight end will get the rock every once in a while. But they're not scared to throw to their stars.

How do you see tonight going against a beat-up Niners team, at home for the Rams, division rivalry game, Eight and a half points feels like a lot. Are you going to go against your normal thoughts there, division game, or how do you kind of see it playing out this evening if you were to be picking the game? Well, I think number one, I mean, I love the NSG West and just how competitive it is. You know, obviously we had the game last week, and now you've got the Rams and the 49ers tonight.

So, yeah, there's a lot going on there. I do think the Rams are playing really good football. I love the way Sean, you know, matches the run in the play action, action together. the early downs and the way they're drop back. I mean, I think Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Fame quarterback of coached a lot of games against him, you know, able to go against the Rams and training camp practices the last, you know, back, you know, back 24 and 23.

So you get good feel for their personnel. I think this guy, I always look, when I get these division games, I look at the trenches. You know, I think you've got two D lines that are probably two of the best defensive line coaches in the game. So, and I really like what the way the Rams are playing. front. You look at all their, all their scores, the production of the offense has been very low. They're doing a great job, winning normal down the distance first and second down. So I think

that's going to be big tonight. But, you know, you got to respect Kyle and his system and, you know, and McCaffrey, you know, his success, you know, against the Rams, you know, or when he doesn't play, I think they're 0 and 3 when he doesn't play. But he's going to touch the ball a ton the night. I mean, I think that's going to be part of the method to deal with this. I don't like eight points at all. I mean, I made this, you know, we said this a couple weeks ago with division games. I don't know. I mean, it's your show. Do we have to give up eight points there? Eight and a half, actually, not just here. Well, coach, there's a seven and a half out there. Oh, no, there's a seven and a half. There's seven and a half somewhere.

Well, I just think seven and a half points in division games. That's almost, that's sacrilegious. They're really like the Rams right now. I think they're playing. really well. Love what they're doing on offense. I think her defense in front is dynamite. Those two edge rushers and their inside pieces. So I like the Rams, but I'm not giving up eight and a half.

All right. We got two for here out of McCarthy's brain, and we appreciate that. What's the backdrop there? We didn't get a chance to chat about it. Door County. That's a horses island. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful view. Just, you know, AJ got me fired up last week, talking about

Jerry's boat, so I was able to get a bunch of time on my boat this past weekend and it's really cool this time of year. I've never really had any opportunity to do boating, much boating in October. So it's just gorgeous up there to, the leaves are turning and just a beautiful part of the country. So I was going to show my boat

versus Jerry's, but my boat's so small, I couldn't get on the screen. Smart. Yeah, smart. Yeah, Jerry's boat, double-wide screen and he wanted his gamer set up. Yeah, exactly. I need that thing to be a couple with towns, but Door County, I don't know if it was on air or off air. We actually brought something up that was happening.

I actually don't know what's going on. What is? Can you update me? What's going on? I've been up in Door County up on the boat. That place has become, I think, dream place for you and your family. I appreciate you representing. And thank you for joining us, Coach. Have an incredible weekend. Oh, you too, man. Always a pleasure. Good luck to your pick. You did it too for here tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCorsy. Yeah, Coach.

What do you say earlier that I say, something with all, something to bring it all. Oh, God. Something with blah, blah, blah, blah. It was like the most Jensur thing of all time, just like, because Jensur's words all go together, you don't want to really move your mouth and open it. So you just get this kind of a lazy language that is kind of spoke by Pittsburgh. And McCarthy's got it. Oh, yeah.

He's never thought about losing it. No. A lot of people that make it from Pittsburgh, they're sent to, like, coaches. like hey you need to stop speaking like that we cannot have you so the yinzer accent has not really been introduced to a national audience because anytime somebody gets to a national audience they tell them you cannot speak like that is not how this goes so you know the fact that McCarthy has gone green but san francisco green bay Dallas yeah wow Dallas he was in new Orleans for a minute yeah and just never lost it and also all he thought he did

He thought he lost their memories. I didn't think I thought I lost. Oh, yeah. I mean, is that how I saw it? I don't sound like that. That is how you saw. I don't. Maybe like my dad.

You are now. You're dad, but you are Pittsburgh dad, who happens to be one of the best football coaches of all the time. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado. Yeah. There's more than one wrestling family. There is obviously more than one.

more than one storyline. But the one that we loved was when this man finished his story. He was once Stardust and he had to go away, create a powerhouse. And now who's running the show? This guy.

Ladies and gentlemen, the American nightmare, Cody Rhodes. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Woo! Oh, champ. Can't really see you. We've got a like stuff. What he's done? Wow. Panetta, bo.

Benipo. Benipaw. Bair, bade, bade, bade, bade, bade, bade, bade, I'm sorry. You're doing jams. Ready to do. Bada, bade, bough, baff, baff, fad, fad, fad, fow. Bala, bada, boom!

Whoa! And then wait, man, no wait. Boom, fireworks. You see that? Bop, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo. Yeah, I heard you missed them. Yeah, you played it off. You look cool.

It was cool. There's a microphone. I need your mic. I'll say this. Where was that? What happened? Well, I'm not sure what happened. I have theories.

There is a, oh, can the title upside down? Yeah, that's a, oh, the me is. The Miz. No, no. And he has one since. There's a writer who was featured on WW's hit series on Netflix, Unreal. I call him Baxter.

I think it was him who did it. Anyways, though, here's the sad part. When it didn't blow the first time, that's a good sign to not do the punch. You know what I'm saying? Let it go. It's not going to be there. Oh, no.

I went for the punch. Again. Again, no pyro. And then got up on the buckle to do the big one. Whole thing, yeah. And no pyro. And getting up on the buckle with my hamstrings and my butt, which

they've, it's getting real big. You need that full explosion, you know? You know, yeah, it didn't happen for me. Sad night, but hey, they woed. Yeah, they always woe. AJ even woed. Thank you. I really appreciate you guys

the version of my song that we have here on the show. Yeah. Bada-a-Bad-Bad-Bad-Bad-Bad-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bad-a-Bat-a-Bat-a-Bat-a-Bat-a-a-Bat-a-a-Badab-a-Bah-a-Bah-a-Bah-a-Bah-a-Bah-B-a-B-B-a-B-B-B-a-B-B-B-B-oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's good. That is music to my ears, and I sincerely appreciate you guys doing that. So, thank you know the words, we appreciate you. I don't know the words as well as I should.

Now, Downstate, we made that song years and years and years ago, and I've used it every single place I've gone. Out the curtain, adrenaline in the soul. I actually don't think I do know. All the way. I know this, though, is sometimes it lingers a little, and you're just waiting to do this. You're already in the spot.

So you've got to kind of sit there and you'll see a couple. Hey, hey, hey, bye. Give it a second. Here we go. Yeah, so it's a great song. Thank you guys. Born and raised in the biz, which is why I think you're here today, okay? The fact that you came here to the Thunderdome to do this conversation, I think it's very old school, but also incredibly awesome that you feel obligated to do as such whenever you're a champion of the WWE. Tomorrow night, Cincinnati. Your tag team in with Randy Orton, is that what I read? That's the thing. It's Heritage Bank Arena, which is an arena I love, and it's Randy Orton. Let's go.

who was a mentor to me in the game and no spoiler. Randy is we don't know how much longer Randy is going to be doing this. I don't want that to creep up on me if we didn't get one more good old fashion mega power style tag with the guy who is partially responsible for me ever getting anywhere

in WW. So Randy Orden, Cincinnati, it's a great fit. I was right around the corner I had to come by. We appreciate you something. Pulled the bus up. Yeah, well we saw. Very sweet. Cool bus. Well, cool door. Bowen to pick with you on the bus. Your bus was next to me at Russell Paloza the other day. Yes, it was it?

Yeah, believe it was. No, it was not my bus. It was another bus. Well, I would have liked had you come on my bus and said hello. I like when you come by. I know, but the door was shut. Post show, though, you've got to throw down. I agree. That's old school, too.

I know. You got to throw down. And I am a throw-downer. I feel like I want to see how much of a throw-downer you are. Well, we did throw-down. We have thrown-down. You're talking about you want more. Yeah, yeah.

You do a big show like that? We premiere on ESPN. It's throw-down territory. We need to throw-down territory. Don. Yeah. You still doing the vodka, yeah?

Wheatley vodka? Yeah. That's right. Wheatly American vodka. Okay. I, uh... I like Wheatley American vodka, but Sazirac, parent company, that's all Buffalo Trace,

Papi. Oh, okay. All the deep, good, the good bourbon stuff. And we're, we're in the heart of it right here, you know? Yes, sure. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Pappy had a good run there.

Very expensive. Mr. Winkle? Yeah, you're talking about Pappy. You're talking about, we have dirty some bottles here. We can go ahead and do that. Yeah. Jack Daniels will be all that I would need, but your bus has always been very hospitable.

You have been very hospitable to me in the business. You've been around the business a long time. Right now, bigger heights. You're going to Perth, Australia next week, and that's just like status quo. Yep, going to Perth, Australia, going to sell out a stadium probably. Me and Seth Rollins are going to battle

for the most precious prize in the game. Stay to the business right now. If you were just to give a kind of an entire address of where we are right now, what would you say, how would you describe it to somebody that maybe doesn't watch wrestling on a regular basis. Well, with the SPN and where the industry is at,

pro wrestling in general, only onwards and upwards, which is new because you have these peaks and valleys throughout wrestling history. I've always loved it. But say, look at the attitude error. If you really look back at it, it's actually a shorter time than we remember. The golden age of the 1980s, you know, macho and all that.

It's a shorter time than we remember. We've been cruising now four or five years. Dallas mania, even the year prior to that. It's been onwards, upwards. A lot of that has to do with Nick Kahn coming on board with W.W. He's a super genius. Super genius, and that's a wrestling term in a way, super genius. And so much of it has to do with it has the best roster.

WWW's roster is you've got Seth Rollins. The fact that we get to go do that and get to do it in Western Australia, in Perth, world champion, WWE champion, it's a beautiful thing. So as long as this roster stays healthy, stays happy, stays cooking, it's it's onwards and upwards and I think the heights for sports entertainment pro wrestling we've never seen anything like this before so this is just as a kid who loved it always loved it always thought it was cool yeah the fact that other people think it's cool now too makes my day yeah every show seemingly has somebody that is notable from somewhere that's a massive fan and a lot of

people were fans whenever they're growing up i think every kid at some point has a run with professional wrestling a lot of people coming back as older as they've gotten older and i think that's because of the access. We got Netflix deal. We got ESPN deal. Obviously, we're still running on cable and linear television. YouTube channel for WWE's like biggest in sports. Libraries over there on

Peacock. Everything. I'm just kind of cooking right now. You guys should be incredibly proud of the work that you're doing. Yourself, very much. Why are you acting like you're not part of this? You're a huge part of this. On that note. You can give it this a reverse rub you've been doing. We love Pat. We love Pat.

Yeah, yeah. I've been lucky to be a part of your guys. world, to be clear. And I do think there is a chance at the WWE ESPN deal, I did have potentially a little bit of sway in that time. But on that note, neither here nor there. I think you guys have earned it all for a good reason. And watching you guys work up close and personal for how long

and what I get to do, it is unbelievable what you guys are able to accomplish on a regular basis. And your work ethic is outstanding. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, I just want to say first and foremost, not that I ever thought you lost the juice, but you coming out at the home run derby in Atlanta. Me and Pat were down there with some of the players.

the pop that you got was louder than any of the players that night. I mean, I know you're a Georgia boy, so, but I just, I need it. Not just the fans. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Eugenio Suarez was going crazy. His son was like, dad, I need a picture with this guy. They were speaking Spanish and then all I heard was quote the room.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that was really sweet. But you thought I had lost the juice previous to walking out? No, I said you didn't. You were worried. I'm just saying, like, baseball fans. Cement it. I don't immediately think, like,

Oh, everyone in here is watching Raw on Monday. I don't think that. It's crazy. Wrestling fans are everywhere. They are. They are. I always come with the idea that maybe they're not going to be. Maybe it's an opportunity to show him.

Hey, oh, the wrestler guy, he's cool. He's cool. Maybe that's why I'm wearing the suit. It's a different outlook on a wrestler. But in Georgia, I mean, that's stomped grounds. It's a fun night. But that was really sweet. As we have a hardout 30 seconds.

We'll continue on digital. Ladies and gentlemen, he and Randy Orton are battling tomorrow night against the vision, the future of the industry. Bronbreaker and Brunson just a week before he has to battle in Perth, Australia for the Crown Jewel against Seth Freak and Rollins. That's Cody Rhodes, AJ Hawks here. Week 5 of the NFL season

kicks off tomorrow. We'll be reacting to it tomorrow. Goodbye! Okay, now we're on digital. We just went off a TV. Now we stay on digital. He has a question for you, and watching that thing down in Atlanta for you was so cool. I was so... We're a little boosted up. A little boost up. We're obviously a little bit... What does a little

booze up look like for you? This is... I'm... I feel I think I had three jacking diets. He had maybe seven. Yeah. Seven, eh? Yeah. Ten. Dogs got a hunt.

Ty was on the All-Star team. He was just starting to catch a plus. Ty was on the All-Star team. They gave him a full unit. I was. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Had the eye black on and everything.

I was ready to get it. Did you get out there on the field at all? Then anybody figured out? Yeah. Well, we introduced everybody. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty sweet.

But you talk about the WWE in wrestling getting as big as it is. You're about to be Colonel Gile in the street fighter movement. When you look at that, how much of, like, your wrestling background comes into acting? Because obviously, like, I think you're a pretty good representation of yourself in the ring. But, like, how much of what you're doing in the ring could you pull from on set acting and be like, wow, this actually maybe isn't as hard as I thought, because I kind of do this every single week? The physicality part of Gile was, I felt like, a pretty easy pickup. And a bit of a spoiler for what's going to be, I hope, a monster movie. Guyle

does a few things in terms of in the video games you know Guy's going to do a sonic boom you know Guy's going to do the flash kick I was adamant that anything that's a stunt I want to do it if that requires me being on these wires

I want to do it if you put another guy over here in the corner who I know is going to do the shot after I still want a shot at it and his name's JV his stunt squad who's putting together these fights because it's street fighter you need fights

it's a fighting tournament unbelievable, very easy for me to jump right into it. And he had a great team around me to let me get one go at a couple things that I hope I get to see in the movie. That movie, if you ever played the game, particular Street Fighter 2, what Katow Sakurai has done as the director is unbelievable. It's just fan service. I mean, if you just saw us all walking around the lot in Australia, you've got Dalsam, you've got Ken, you got Ryu, you got Chun Lee, the real, I don't want to say the real final boss, but in that game, you know, you got, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's It did. Yeah, we all thought it when you said it too.

Just a really wonderful cast. And I think one thing they did that was awesome on this movie is Noah, Kalina, and Koji, who are the three leads, unbelievably good actors who are taking it so dead serious and are there to work every day. So then you got me and 50 Cent and Andrew Schultz and Roman. We were able to play. They let us have a lot of fun. And I hope people enjoy how I approach Guile because it's different perhaps than straight military. military man, I suppose. What part of Australia were you guys in? We were, we did all the film in Sydney. I was in Darling Harbor. Okay, so I was in Brisbane at the same time. You guys were all up there. I thought, we'll just drive over and meet these guys.

Nope. Nope. No, no. It was a huge continent. Literally, in my head, I didn't do a lot of research into where I was headed. I just knew I had a 16-hour flight in a tube with no Wi-Fi. So I knew that was problematic. Did you go Perth at all?

Did you get over there? No, I just went strictly to Brisbane. that's a big shock when people go is they think, oh, exactly, I can just drive on over there. And then they get on a five plus hour flight from Sydney to Perth and realize, oh, this is a giant. Giant continent.

You just rattled off a bunch of people's names and they had heard I was going to Australia. So I got text from people. They're like, are you in Australia? Right now I'm like, yes. They're like, we're filming in what city again? We were in Sydney. Yeah, Sydney. We're in Sydney or whatever.

You're going to be here. And I'm like, can definitely make that. I mean, the amount of people that are there, yes, I can come. and then turns out it was not it was not that easy just to hop over there filming was cool though how many movies you've been a part of this i did a cameo naked gun which was a blast because this is leiam nison it's a jett i get to have that moment this is the first real movie i've been part of cool in a sense of being there every day showing up stunt training next piece you

know the the the hair on giles is quite a sight and just moving through the day they kept us really busy and sydney was so incredible and i haven't been in a place and state still like that pretty much in my whole career other than my own home. For Crown Jewel I put the Aussie flag on the back of the jacket. I had to. I love the country as well, man. God, they were just such a, if I had to be one place for

that amount of time away from the girls, away from the family to do this, it was a really special place. Food's so good. Yeah. Everybody jacked. Big steak culture over there. Oh my gosh. Yeah, eggs in the morning. I didn't like the seatbelt in the backseat. I didn't love that. Oh, well, you can't get in a car. It won't be moving unless

you buckled in. Yeah, I didn't love that. Didn't love that could certainly find cocaine from seemingly anybody. Marijuana was not very prevalent anywhere. I was looking for tree. Could not find it on a very easily case. But everything other than that, clean. I did not have the same drug experience. Like, that's why you're champ, bro.

Yeah, exactly. That's why you're a champ. I mean, if that's going around out there, all right. No, but I'm not. See, but everybody thinks I am a winter storm guy. Because of my energy, I am not. It's a complete opposite. I'm like, have tried it.

That is the worst. I wake up in a morning just like you're the worst human honor don't need to do that as an adult I actually go the other way I'm looking for the trees on a very regular basis don't want to travel in there

because I've seen long up abroad you're looking for the mellow the warm jets yeah I just want to see you know kind of cool Indiana obviously would never do that here can't no we'll never do that just CBD here

but in Australia I'm there for a long time that was the longest time I have gone outside of Indiana sure obviously when I live here in Indiana maybe since I'm 21 years old I had that 20 years old I had that 27-month period in trouble by the NFL.

I was in the substance of abuse program. But other than that, no smoke to be found anywhere. That was interesting. But yeah, I guess the upper was certainly readily available. They're all jacked. Food was incredible. Everybody had a great personality. For me, where in Brisbane, sidewalks were like marble

at some of the places I was walking around. Such a clean spot. Oh, my God. Such a clean spot. It was awesome. Australia was awesome. Do you think they really like Americans? Because I felt like they were incredibly kind.

but I also thought deep down maybe they this is like an overcompensation talking a bunch of shit about your rights and also too with the tattoo I thought like maybe

maybe they don't love me as much as they're really nice but I walked away that was a second home for me loved it you came in and said I'm the American nightmare and they said

every American's you know how the climate is now it's you know I don't ever want to be the one no what's going to pull it up a little bit I'm loud and proud about it plus it's it's Colonel Gile exactly you said

you know you're going into this USA all the way, but Yeah, absolutely. I don't think a lot of Americans are there. No. It's far. It's really far. And also the schedule.

This is 8 a.m. start on Saturday for us, right, for the Crown Jewel and Perth? Oh, my. Whoa. Yep, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. I'll be up with you. I'll be an hour before doing a game day, but I'm going to wake up with you.

Are you late? You don't have to give the way. You guys will be last, obviously, until it's announced maybe that they're first, depending upon how. The politics of wrestling You get it all, huh? Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, those are the two spots. You want to be first or you want to be last?

I'm pretty, I think Hunter's old school and that the WW title typically goes last, but also sometimes going last is not a chore, but it can be a journey. If it hasn't been that banger show or if it's been a bit of a slow burn, then it's all on you to give them the action. That's the challenge of it all. I think you're made a better wrestler by being put in that spot. But first, you got a... You're setting a tone for the entire...

First, you're setting the tone, but also first is low-hanging fruit in a good way. You can... First is a great spot. First, last. The middle... The concerns me. Well, listen, you used to be in the middle.

Aren't you doing cartwheels? Now where you're at? Bro. First or last? I was the most in-the-middle guy of all times. So I like the other spots. A tone has a question for you. Yeah, Cody, since you have that big match coming up next week,

tomorrow, will you be like, hey, Mr. Viper? Mr. Orton, maybe you have, you do more of the heavy lifting tonight? That's very likely if it was anybody but Randy. Yeah. Randy, I genuinely think, and we've had a lot of shows where say Randy wasn't advertised and then Randy's music hit and it was the loudest reaction of the night. The people, there's a love he has, seen as very similar, the equity they've built up. When Randy is in town, that's, it's very, you know, I'm not, I don't know if I'm saying Mr. Orden, but I'm there for

I'm there for whatever I can do to give him the best match possible because he's earned it in every such way. And he's naturally going to do that just on his own. But I feel like our locker room and I hope the NXT guys and all the NIA guys who are coming in and all the guys Sean and Baldo are training. I hope they realize what a special individual that Randy is. And we won't have him forever. I keep saying that. And the dude might be here another 10 years. He looks like in the Qazila current mode he's in.

But I certainly want to get this tag with him. in case it's the last one. How come Baldo doesn't have one final run? That's a great question. He's been around it. He knows everybody. That's a good, I mean, you hit that music at the Rumble, see where it goes. Oh, and I hope he's wearing, I hope it is. Which one you want?

You want A-Train or you want the Tenside? Oh, okay, well, that's different than most people would want. We need one more Voldo Tensai run. Well, I mean, either way, that's always, drop them in the water, and I bet the place would lose their mind. Royal Rumble for sure. Royal Rumble, and then see where it goes. Former University of Pittsburgh offense. alignment, obviously, and

freak show athlete. That guy, I think not just one night. He needs an entire run. Yeah. You're calling for a Baldo entire run. See his last match. He should be involved with the Sina's stuff. Now that I'm like, this is Baldo we're talking about. I'm pumped about this final run. Yeah, in Baldo, I think he needs promo every week, too. I think he deserves that. I think we get

promo for Baldo every single week. You're really putting a lot of time into this. Yeah, I think you should get 20, 30 minutes a week. Put Baldo out there. boom 10 minute match obviously he's going to have to get some of the boots back under him okay he's going to have to do that but he's down there working with everybody well he's a big big dude you don't have to do as much oh he couples couples yeah big dude less is more you know you don't have to come off your feet all that much no it's up to you like the the light heavyweight types you bounce off him you know baldow was always so good to me man I would like see him just go

ahead and get more debone debone probably wants to see bald yeah for sure yeah let's get I think you mentioned D-Bone to me last time, and I think as I was leaving, I was calling him the wrong thing the entire time. That's all right. That's good. Yeah, I don't worry about it. Yeah, you just broke his heart.

Yeah, this guy, massive. Bada-Bain. Bada-Bone. Did I screw it up last time, D-Bone? Was I calling you something else? He doesn't remember. Okay, good. All right.

I want to make sure. I hope I got it right. Good to see you, Mr. Roe? Good to see you. Do you have any questions for the American Nightmare, D-Bone, about anything going on the day of the E? Che-Bone. No zipper burn today.

I will say I'd be a fakesy nation fan if I didn't say I am pissed off that you have that fucking because this right here. Wow. This right here. This upsets you. But I will say, I'll thank you for bringing out the best in John Cena and putting on one of the greatest matches of his career. That was a very, very uniquely laced compliment.

Thank you. It was a great match. What a met life. What a good time. What a good time. And I hate saying this, but part of the beauty of how great that match is was the lack of a match

that really took place at WrestleMania in a sense. Sometimes the long game is the game. And again, it's like going on last. It's a hard spot occasionally, but the bigger picture, I treat them as they were the same match. And then we just got to use all the bells. Oh, you're saying it was like first half second.

Yeah, exactly. His story, you know, I don't want to quote Mr. Heyman here, but the chapters, the innings, all those things. It's a long game. Are you seeing the vision right now? Is that what you're doing? good vision, huh? Well, we'll see tomorrow

tonight. Who are you picking out of Bronon and our Bronson to move forward into the upper stratosphere? Who's it going to be? Oh, the big dog? Big Bron? Is that even a question? I mean, what do we even talk to me? This is, okay. The guy runs 25 miles an hour. Now, tsunami is certainly unstoppable. And he called you out

for he wanted a tsunami you, you know. Did he? Yes, this is a thing he's put out there. He wanted a tsunami you. When? When do you say this? I think he's pretty much put everybody on a list. You were on a list. You were on a list. You were on a list. In high school, I was on a list, too. There's a lot of conversations. That was an eye-opener for how bad people can really hate me.

Here's my outlook on Braun Bronson, though. I feel like whoever you pick to be the guy from that group, because this happens to tags all the time, I think you'll be wrong because I have a feeling they're both going to be. That's why it's the vision, brother. Yeah, Mr. Haman does not make bets that do not pay off. Now, we're all football guys here. So, we look up your amateur guys here.

We looked up your amateur record. wrestling record at high school. The Unreal, 101 and two. And only taken down four times. Wow. So good. I was obsessed. You ever seen Vision Quest? Oh, Matthew Levine.

Not The Vision, but you've seen Vision Quest? I have. Yeah. What a vibe. So that was my life. I was up early. The whole thing, the whole reason I was so obsessed with folk style amateur wrestling is because where I lived, Dusty was kind of Gomez Adams. Yes. They all, when we go to tournaments and stuff. For everybody else, it doesn't know.

what you're talking. Adam's family. When he was just looked upon as he had this freak-like job. Okay. And then he was always ridiculed for not being a real athlete, which Dusty looked how Dusty looked. Yeah, but I made it. So that was everything he did. He could hit a baseball as far as, I mean, everything he did, he was a great athlete.

But I really wanted people to know when it came to me, the wrestling was as real as it got. It was a weird psychology as a youngster, but it drove me because that run in high school was absurd. You committed to Penn State, didn't you? I didn't fully commit. No, no. That was a, I was going to Howard Fine Acting Studio. My mom wanted that commitment.

My mom, to this day, thinks I've made the wrong career choices. So, and I love her for that, but. Mama Rhodes is not, not, I think she wanted that Penn State. I mean, a runnels of Rhodes to get into college and do it for sports. Here's the thing about that amateur wrestling record, though,

that here's the fraudulent part. That was in high school, in the South. Competition is not as stiff as you get in the Midwest, you know, some spots out in California. I'd go to these Kin Sheratel gold medal camps over the summer, and I would get dogwalk. I would get murked. Now, I never got pinned. I was good enough, but I mean, the team Georgia was a fun bit for a second, but I remember being at one camp and the guy goes, all right, you're crab walking across the gym. He said, if you're from Pennsylvania, go.

30 kids go. All right, if you're from West Virginia, go. 10 kids ago. He named every state and then he got to Georgia. One kid. Just me. I was the only one at these things because it was Vision Quest. I just had to keep that record going. I don't know what it was, but my family loved amateur wrestling.

I felt so bad when... No, you made the right decision. You're a champ. Thank you. Let's talk about you being Georgia boy. Go ahead, conman. Yeah, what about the Georgia dogs? I mean... Sad. Yeah, it sucks for you because they might blow. Sad. Alabama was also a good team. Are they going to bounce

back here or what's going on? It's not like it was four or five years ago before the big extended playoff where that one loss is it. As far as fan bases, we're not packing it up in Athens and saying it's over. But I certainly, I didn't think that was going to be the case. I didn't think Alabama had any of the juice. I didn't think that. So that game was just a sad ending. I see Georgia running the table throughout.

I do. And then we get into the same discussions at the end with, you know, you've got one loss. teams and then there'll be a two lost team and who fits but I still stand by my dogs and I think a great game that game is always a great game yeah but uh not not what I was expecting but not as bad as it used to be it used to be SEC you lose the one game it's done pack it up and now you get there's a little bit of a cushion I guess there but not a not a good day for me long they're going to be they're going to fix it though this weekend Joe test is on the call bringing good vibes bring in the good vibes yes the dogs are going to be fine

33 games you guys had one down there between the hedges You guys lost that It's the longest home winning streak in the country Number two home winning streak in the country lost as well Washington, so we got a brand new top of the We Must Protect This House Georgia is it what's that coming down the track Or who's that coming down the track whenever you call the dogs?

Who's, right? I don't know You did whose? I did both actually because I've heard from some Georgia Bulldog fans that are a little older maybe and say it's a main machine it's a what

and then you talk to some other folks younger and they're like it's who's we're people so they say it's so anytime you hear me do it it's how I'm starting it is really a decision that's getting made

in real time the gears are going but I think if you just put any in there it's like when you have like a wrestler that you can't pronounce his name. It's just the speed and when you hit it, you're good. The moves. I do that with moves. Yeah, no, if you just get through it real quick,

the who's or what's. And also, Athens is ready for you to sing it anyways. They want the excitement. Yeah, they're not. This is Athens. We shouldn't be that particular about that song. Athens hated me the most out of everybody when I got to. From the switch up, you did? Yeah. No, no, no. They hated me the most when I got on College Game Day.

Hated me by far the moment. Would you say they were kind of the old whites? Yes, that is exactly how I refer to that. And then also, they thought I took David Pollock's spot on the show. I got along with David Pollock. David Pollock, unbelievable athlete. David Pollock very good to me. But Georgia Bulldog fans were like Yankee Clown,

greatest dog in all. They dropped me in there. We took the show down there. There was like 40 people behind us. It was like, well, never fucking doing this again. Yeah, never going to come down here again. But I will say, I think the Georgia Bulldog fans, a couple ladies kicked me out of a restaurant

right now was down there in Athens. I would say they have by far been the worst fan base towards me. Oh, I hate to hear that. No, it's good. It's because of the reason that they are what they are. But I did pick them, and they did win for me. Yeah.

And I feel like we had a moment there when I was in Texas. How's your relationship with Ohio State fans? Very good, because of this guy right here. Okay, okay. Because A.J. Ohio State fans, I think they would turn on me immediately upon me not picking them. Yeah. Like that is college football as a whole.

But the Georgia people, it took a long time. I would compliment them. I'd interview Kirby. I'd put it over their entire team. Don't want to hear it. Get this guy to fuck off the microphone. Don't want to hear it. You think it's because you weren't wearing a tie?

I don't even know. So that was the first thing when you were on college game day that I thought, bold. Bold. Really? No tie. And then the bolos are coming out. The next thing you know, the whole, you just brought an energy that. Do you sleep in a suit, though?

Yeah. I have recently gone down one time in a suit, which is, that's almost shameful. When you wake up and you're still in it. And I rush. I rushed from Bristol when I went to the ESPN headquarters to meet my daughter and wife at the beach, and I was still in the suit, and I took my shoes off. It's just bizarre. She'll have a lot of questions when she grows up.

I mean, it's mainly, like I was looking through my other clothes today. We call it, if ever I wear my track jacket and stuff on TV, the writers call it Cozy Roads. Uh-huh. I like that. That's awesome. Yeah. So I do love a good suit. I do.

You look good in them. I asked about the Ohio State thing because they seem very, difficult to get in. They're difficult to get in as far as that fan base. And I wondered, are Georgia fans the same and we don't know it in terms of, are we keeping the gate? And I figured we was just come on in. There's a lot of cults in college ball, which is why college ball is so good.

Like in the SEC, there's a lot of them, you know? And Nick Saban and a lot of people have told a story about the Southeastern Conference how there's no professional football. So like the colleges were literally, hey, this is what we have. And then you talk about grandfathers and grandfather's and everything like that that has been passed down the tradition, which is why college football is so great. But I think the Georgia people, just specifically, David Pollock, this guy's talking more than David? Not on my walk.

I don't fucking think so. David Pollock had a 44 inch vertical or something like that. I want Kirby to call and leave a pep talk on my voice, on my voicemail. He's the greatest. The first time I ever heard what he sounded like in the locker room blew my mind. I thought, okay, these guys are going to war. This isn't a game. This is war.

That guy's amazing. We love Kirby, too. Kirby, too, is always been very nice to me. I think Kirby's always been very cool to me. The Georgia football team has always been very cool to me. I've always been a big fan of them, and I appreciate the hell out of their fan base, like, to be honest.

It's like, I like that you want to bat for Pollock because I'll tell you what, if somebody comes in and takes my spot, I hope the West Virginia Mountier people are like, fuck. Yeah, exactly. I hope they are like that. I genuinely do.

But you earned them over. That's the greatest thing ever. We're talking about being the middle of the card, and then you earn them over. That's the gift. You didn't start with a rocket on. You, it's slow, showed them what you could do, and they love you now. You just got to figure out what's or who.

You made me think of a question, though, talking about Kirby's locker room speeches. And I know there's different locker rooms for different superstars. But, like, before big main events or, like, WrestleMania or whatever, like, does anyone get up and talk, like, in front of the group and, like, maybe motivate for the night? Or is that just not, I think that happens? I think the last time we had somebody talked to the whole group was Undertaker talking about Netflix Raw. Gotcha. And just what that meant, which was really great. because some of the younger ones might not see him,

they might not realize who the Undertaker was as an actual in-ring performer. And for him to explain how big of a deal this was, that this was happening, that was one where you wanted to run through a brick wall. The other guys who will do it, who are more subtle, it's not a pep talk, it's more of a pull you aside and hit you with something that's like,

is, again, Mr. Heyman, you know, he doesn't take me as one of his guys. I usually am fighting his guys. But when he says something, it matters, and Michael Hayes. Michael Hayes is one that he's just a wild. He'll hit you with something or pull the curtain back

and show you all the people and where they are. Again, don't want to take any of this for granted. Again, Heritage Bank tomorrow, that's a huge one for me. The fact that you do this with Randy, massive. But those are good pep talk guys. Hunter's good, too. Yeah, now that I think about it, we got a lot of good leaders.

A lot of good leaders on the squad for sure. What a lot of Michael Cole. Come on, sir. Yeah, I mean, Michael Cole's energy is motivating. Absolutely. He walks out there, the tie's a little undone during the day. He doesn't care, top, bottom, who you're on the card. Get over here.

Tell me. I mean, he gets what he needs. He gets his notes. He's just, he's a voice of WWE. My favorite thing about him, he does so much research. Yeah. So much writing, so much. Like, the guy's attention to detail is absurd.

He's always trying to type notes. And you don't know if his hearing aids are on you talking or on a video package that he is listening to throughout the, entirety of the day but he'll get something from somebody that he really likes he'll get real excited about it and he's like oh i can't wait and then we get to almost the moment in the match where it's coming and you see him get like pretty excited and then before it even as it's happening he can't fucking buy it's like his his love for the business is like very apparent i think yeah that is what makes the wwe so special all the you guys and women and men and the people in creative and back

I mean, you talked about Freebird there. He's been on the road for 50 years. This guy's been living arena to arena to arena is what he's been doing. The passion for this business is the business, which AAA had 1,000 times in Netflix, but it's very real. Like, the business is kind of the thing that if you love it, it'll love you back. And I think you guys have done incredible things with. The last question is coming from Ohio. Fresh haircut from A.J. Hawk.

Yeah, Mr. Rhodes. Speaking of leaders, there's a great YouTube channel called Ms. Golf, one of the, Another WWE superstar runs that channel and plays, I guess, it looks like, I think he's just a couple under-par golf usually there with partners. Has he asked you to come on the show? I don't know if you play golf or not, but is that something you're aware of? Would you play with him? You know, he hasn't asked me to come on because he's secretly, he's trying to get better with every day. If you know, if you know Ms. is not going to, he went through a guitar playing phase, I think, five years ago.

And he had it, I remember it was on the, like, on the plane. He had the travel guitar. I don't even know if he remembers it, but he, Ms. only can go 110 at anything. So I think he's trying to get as good as he possibly can to then embarrass people who would come on the channel. But he never will, though. He's been going 110 on golf for a while.

Yeah, so you don't see it coming? His score started at 110. And now it's 150. He is somehow gone the opposite direction. It is entertaining, though. Shout at Ms. Golf. We will watch it. him do his thing. Is Miz's

short game good on Ms. Golf? I can't tell you this. The swing looks great though, right? Without the ball. Yep. Oh, so this is fraudulent. He's working it? He's working. He's putting a little cave on that swing. He goes and plays in Tahoe every summer and comes in bottom three every time. His caddy's the problem.

His caddy tells him he should continue to do what he's doing, which is trying to be a professional golf. Guys, Ms. has had a hell of a run. Former WWE. Look at that. Yeah, he should not, that's not, he's in the woods. Yeah, I don't know how accurate that, that trailer is. Okay, former WWB champion, I think he's hosting American gladiators that's on the way.

What? Yeah, I don't think that's a spoiler if it is. I'm screwed. I think it's out there. He's done everything in the business. If this is his new thing, dancing with the stars. Unbelievable. If this is his new thing he's picking up, let him get in here.

Take a couple puts, put some money on the line. You're losing way too much money on college game day, by the way. I had Brandi watching it this week with the two kids who went tammy. them on you. I'm dying, laughing at the money just draining from you. You had to know that that kid was going through the uprights. That was the most white soccer player. I'm going to kick it straight. I have ever seen. And they were in cahoots. Oh, I just met this guy. No, you're literally like finance. Finance. They both are in finance. We said the same. I love that you're willing to do that. But man, like, we need some rules. Yeah, I agree. We need someone else on the

show to say, I'll chip in here. Not just. just, hey, Pat, money. It's a good idea. Cody Rose. Goody Rose. Yeah, that's a good idea. All right. Good luck tomorrow night. Shout to those kids. I appreciate it. I respect it. But yes, it is getting expensive.

Yeah, no, good for them. Kicking's not supposed to be used. That's the whole part of the segment. You know, so I don't love that. Even if he was a soccer player, that's a hard kick. There's thousands of people around them. I mean, congrats to you, though. Kickers are all the rage right now. I'm watching the Cowboys just for the kicker these days. Right. Yeah.

What a vibe. Well, I'm watching. WWE because of you. Thank you, sir. I'll see you tomorrow night in Cincinnati. Yeah. On Smackdown with Randy Orton taking on the future of the industry. Taking on.

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Yeah, no, the ring is on the line. the giant fall right off you because it weighs 70 pounds title that you've got to get every buckle on but it's the biggest title I've ever seen ever so hopefully it's there in Perth and then the winner gets a ring I get to keep my ring though so the idea is getting two rings

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He is a Hoffnam, which we need to continue. He's got a new haircut. The haircut's becoming Hall of Fame worthy as well. Is this what the look's going to be? Is it going to be a low fade, and then we're going to slick this thing back, how you're doing, keep him moving?

Or maybe we do it a blowout like Paul E.D. You know, boys from Jersey. What are the thoughts here with the low fade? What's the end goal here, pal? I do not have an end goal, actually. I just was trying to grow the sides out and so try to clean it up a little bit but I don't know

honestly I have no clue what I'm going to do with it. I think it looks very good. I think it looks very good right now. There was a couple months there where we were wondering what the hell you're doing or what you're going to do. We're starting a football season. You're on TV every day. This is an aggressive decision. I think you've gotten to the point here in week five, good shape.

Yeah. It's got good shame. Maybe you do the Cody Rhodes. The Cody Rhodes. He does him right here. Do that. He was one of, I mean, I love his pocket. get watched situation. How long would that be have that? He's always swagged out of his mind. Such a good suit. And then I love that

when he wears a track suit, they call him cozy roads. He big time ball fan. Big time ball fan. Oh, you can tell. You can tell. He watches show a lot, this show a lot. Anytime I would see him at an event or if we were literally anywhere at the same time, he would always go out of his way to mention something that happened on the show that day

or like the most recent day. He's always been so cool to me. I'm very thankful for him. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Big one night for you, boys. All the marbles. For all the marbles. Okay, what's the final score? Let's do a prediction.

Oh, I'm going to say 5-2 Yankees. Fuck you. I'm going to say 7-6 socks. Whoa. What's the over-under in this particular game? Let's go to one-half of the hammer.

God. Cowboys A. P. Ton. Yankees are around minus 150 on the money line to win, and the over-under is seven and a half. Oh. Man says no problem. No problem at all.

I mean, the bats have gotten hot. And like I said, I miss five innings, but I'm pretty sure the bats are hot, right? The bats are fairly hot. They have been pretty tight, low-scoring affairs. But, you know, guys are getting hit. That's what I thought. Oh, yeah, single, single, singles. Single, single.

Yeah, a lot of singles. It's hashtag up to something season for Boston Connor last night. Got captivated by it. I cannot wait for the world to see it. And tonight, the world gets to see an NFC West battle. as the Rams and the Niners will face off to kickoff week five at the NFL season.

Stafford McCorkel Jones there was a line at 7 and a half somewhere is it still 8.5 at ESPN better where are we at now? It is 8 and a half across the board now. Okay 8 and a half across the board Conman what do we need to know? Injuries for the Niners. Yeah I mean I don't know if there's a bet on like over or touches for the

Niners but no wide receiver 1 with Pierceall, no wide receiver 3 or 2 rather with Jawan Jennings. So it's kind of Mac Jones Kendrick Bourne a la 2021 in New England when it comes to receivers for the 49ers expect CMC to get legitimately 55 touches. He's the leading receiver and Russia tonight for the Niners.

DeMarcus Robinson, I believe, is the name that Kirk Herbstreet mentioned, is wide receiver for the Niners that might get a touch or two here this evening. Maybe sprinkle a little in-time TD there on DeMarcus Robinson. Just felt like a name that came out of nowhere at Kirk Herb Street's mouth.

A lot of injuries for this Niners team seems like this is kind of the story, brother, all the time with it. yeah that's uh they've been what are you bitten by the injury bug uh for many many years you hear coach McCarthy say he he hates like fatigue injuries that always bother like soft tissue stuff would always he'd be pretty upset with that because sometimes you can do i guess you gotta do whatever you can to try to prevent those with hydration take care of yourself but sometimes you're just unlucky and it feels like the the niners have been unlucky for year after year after year i'm not sure

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as McCorkel Jones takes on Matthew Stafford. AJ eight and a half is the spread. At one point, it was three. The Rams favored at home with Pooka Nakua playing the greatest football, maybe any wide receiver, has ever played in the history of its league. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? So yeah, I've said before, I've gone back and forth

on this one, and as Coach Mike said, like, eight and a half's a lot of points, especially in division. So, man, three seconds ago, I was thinking, okay, I'm going, I'm going Rams here. I'm going Ram's minus eight and a half, but you know what? I just, I got to trust my instincts. I'm taking Niners here plus eight and a half on the room i woke up this morning had a tune in my mind went to the notes section then the voice

memo sure had a nice workout got a good sweat in whatever do the uh the sauna thing sure nice it's great case house i moved into had one of these holy shit shout out to what rich white dude yeah thank you there's a lot of things this guy has in a house where i'm like thank you bro i would have certainly never accomplished getting this done. So thank you for doing it. As I was sitting in there, I just started doing research on this particular game. And Hembo, obviously, massive tag team partner with a bunch of stats. All the stats say, Shanahan's going to keep this close with McVeigh. So do the Rams win? We all think yes, right? We all assume yes. Yes. Yes. But Thursday night, division game and Shanahan with McVeigh, I think it stays close. So I'm with you.

And it's been this way since, I think, 5.40 a.m. I actually looked at clock and was like, I am not budget. Love it. Last week, I waffled on a lot of picks. I ended up having three right out of 16. So at 5.14 or 540 is more. I was like, I'm sticking with this. No matter what, no matter who comes on the show and says whatever the fuck.

No matter what stat is said about how great puka is and how great matter. I believe them. I agree. Don't move. So I'm staying on Niners plus eight and a half strictly because I made a deal with myself when I was sweating my balls off this morning. And last week I did a lot of...

Good players! And every way I leaned, I thought, ended up being the right way. Well, not all of them. Because you leaned Bears and I said, but Max Crosby, oh shit. And, you know, that one was... That one's on me.

Well, it was on me, too. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. I was watching those games, and I was like, man, I think I've won. all these games because my first thought was all what was happening and i'm like holy fuck i'm really seeing the field right now i want eight of 10 on game day then i'm watching these games on sunday i'm like fucking boys got it right now we got this thing kind of figured out and then i see the

graphic and it's like no you do not the fuck and i'm like oh man i thought i waffled back i thought i seesawed back so i'm not i'm not budging more fucking stay in course 540 a m that's your true itself too that's how you know this is very new me this is a very new me this is a very new me. Is it the true me, maybe? It is a very new me this morning. It's your heart's North Star. 540? Mm-hmm. Well said. Well said. That's right. I should follow it. I don't know if I'm going to see it every day, but I have been seeing it on a very

regular basis these days. I've been drinking a lot of water, staying hydrated, become a coffee drinker. You know, you go, you go down to Paris Island, you watch the Marines and the drill instructors operate. And you're like, these motherfuckers are optimal elite human beings. These are the ones. Yeah. These are. these are the, we should, we should try to carry over what these guys are doing. And women for, for like our actual life, I found myself waking up earlier, a little more coffee, I'm shaving now. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I didn't know you had a score on your jaw. Making a, yeah, that's a good one. On your chin, yeah. That was a good time. Those are, these things are going to happen. There's a couple here. I mean, there is a couple on this side. These are a lot, this is life, what you are seeing here, okay?

This is all life, what you're seeing, but it has become a new one with the morning, and it's been fun to become a morning person. always been a nocturnal creature always like two three a.m. up and then I'd hear the morning people say like you got to be up early if you want to accomplish things I'm like you're fucking sleeping bitch I'm still up yeah I am I am I am there is a different animal to waking up and not granted with kids have to because whenever she wakes up it kind of takes over a lot of things you don't have as much free time so you have to wake up early but I do appreciate the waking up and just like the mindset it takes to like not just be like well actually you

I could probably sleep another 20, 30 minutes and then that becomes 45. Yeah, it'll get you. It will get you. Yeah, so, like, that first decision of, like, getting up has become one that I've really enjoyed making. I don't know if this is the new me, though, forever. AJ, you're a morning, right? You're an early riser?

Yeah, but, I mean, it doesn't... It should get easier as you get older. It doesn't get easier for me. I thought it would, but no. Yeah, but every day you're making that decision you're a pretty structured morning guy, right? Yeah, I try to be. I think it's good for you to do that. Everything I've read is like, hey,

have a thing. Need structure to the day. Need something to start your day with. It's like I've been waking up early and I've been loving it. I've been loving it. Not at the exact time of waking up. To your point. Sure. Sure.

I'm like, fuck this. It's about to be pitch black. I'm not looking forward to it. It's already starting to kind of getting that 7 o'clock still very dark outside. Bingo. My entire morning this morning, pitch black. It made me feel like I'm going to fuck it.

Yeah. I'm so early, dude. I'm up so early right now. I bet. It's fun, dude. Then that cold tub. I don't go all the way in because I'm trying to grow muscles.

There's a bunch of anti-propaganda. Sure, that's right. But I will certainly dunk my face in it. That's a nice little wake-up call, too. Just 42 degrees. Yeah. It's been fun, man. It's a whole new me.

Feels great. Sent a hilarious email this morning. Maybe my best email I've ever sent. I think. The person who received it, I don't know what they think about it. Me sending it, I felt good. I felt in my bag.

Every sentence got better. And then even the sign-off, you know what it says? Like, this email was sent from an iPhone. I even made that as a PS, basically. This email was sent by a retired ball kicker who, and then bury him again, and then from his iPhone. So every sentence got better. It was really good. It's like how people want movies to go, I think.

That was that email. So mornings have been great for me, it's what I'm saying. It's been entertaining for me. AJ, maybe I FaceTime you in one of these mornings. Maybe you can give me a little motivational sermon to kind of start my day, AJ. Classic agent. I don't know. Was that, do you think this person you sent the email to, hopefully they woke up,

and first thing they read was this email, did it motivate them? Four people. Oh. Yeah. I think they'll be motivated. Yeah? I think they'll be spurned action of some sort. Oh, nice.

I just ain't got time for a shit, you know. This guy wears tank tops. He's a fucking idiot. Okay. We'll see, buddy. We will see. on that note let's get some fucking games right

okay here we go yes come on boys tonight we start we start one no tonight I don't want to do that I don't think you need to no you stuck with your gut

why you know why are you you're right you're right right I mean exactly yeah fuck it oh come on

that wasn't for anything no that was just for fun yeah just Yeah, that's all. Even if it was, I can't remember who brought it up. There's been an alarming amount of injuries since AJ made his shot that said no more. That is true.

Maybe the most injuries in history since that shot. Probably you, AJ. I'm going to punt the next one then, right? Not in here, please. We've got lights everywhere that won out earlier. Did you see we had full power out? Yeah, I had full power out of yesterday. Drop me off the show. Yeah, like, what's going on? I don't know. The graphics thing crashed right before we went live yesterday, too. That might have been my fault.

overload in the grid. I think I fat-fingered that one. Oh, no. I'm just guessing here. I actually don't know, but I'm just guessing. There's a chance I accidentally hit the dump everything button as opposed to the load everything button. You see, they're right there.

That was the first, though. Hey, well, way to recover back. Yeah. That was real panic. There was real panic back there. And then when the lights go out, there's, oh, but ears still worked. Yep. Microphone still worked.

So we put these UPS things, uninterrupted power supply. what are this called the generator generator there it is so these things in theory you're uninterrupted is in the u okay but there has to be some sort of power outage to launch generator this one we paid massive amount of money to a very good company great company here in indiana uh that does like a lot of work around and it's like this is the quickest this is the quickest like out to back on ups you can basically get and shout to it it worked kept us on. The stage lights stayed on the whole time. These lights, these lights

were off. TVs, the mic We didn't go to ESPN for 24 seconds. 24 seconds. That's pretty good. YouTube, all good, though. YouTube's still good. TikTok, I think, still good. Unless they banned us for another 24 hours, which happens all of the time. Every day. So you have a full power power outage in the building and you only lose 24 seconds.

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Shout to the Bealey's. The Bealey electrical cut. They came in and looked at the entire place. was like, we think you did this, think you need this. And Tim McAfee alongside of him, obviously, getting to the bottom of it. Because in years past, that would have been a full... That's the end of the show, folks. Somebody called the board center.

Oh, my God. Camarro Ousman was given one of the greatest motivational speeches of all time about what he thinks about when he's walking to the ring. I turn into an animal. I turn into a beast. I start thinking about... And just everything stopped.

And then we had to guess if someone flipped the switch in the back alley. Which turns out, some hummed on the thing. Some bum. Turn it off. So shout out to the UPS system keeping us up. But we need to figure out how maybe to send it to ESPN. So we need to ups the thing.

We need to ups the thing that's going to ESPN. Get that connection. Yeah. Or wherever it's been said. Space. Moon. Eventually. There's a girl training to go to Mars and she's never going to come back.

she got bad pants her parents I don't want to judge anybody but I don't need that I don't need to hear about that imagine McKenzie come telling one day and says I'm going Mars and never coming back it's like what the fuck should know

they're not that's not happening I'm your father you're not going you're not doing that how about that this is fun won't you fucking just start digging a grade she's 24 years old oh my gosh come on there's so many things we need to find out here we don't need to lose you forever

just fucking send it she says put me where's Elon? Elon yeah I need you a bill one that just fucking just sends it just I want to get up there and then I want it to just like a blow just send me up she's like McConaugan what's it called where he travels interstellar

what was Affleck he was growing something on Mars right red no no that was Damon in the Martian yeah a good movie grown tomato or potatoes from his poop could have never guess he would have been stuck on and Viking it yeah Viking and potatoes I would like to acknowledge the

courage that this takes to make this decision this like when Christopher Columbus was told hey you're going to die and he said fuck it I hate my family yeah let's go is that right we don't know we don't know

he might have been a he might have been a single manager we have no idea but we do know that to make that decision there had to be something going on that's like thank you you're telling me I'll fall off of that thing? Yeah, you got it. I'm sure I can go

get some boys, too. Go down to the bar. Hey, got a one-way trip to fucking nowhere. Let's roll. A hundred people. You got it. Yeah, fuck, never got to go home again. Go in there. So we don't love it. A lot of courage, though.

Yeah. So what's her name? Do we know our name? Yes, I just had Alyssa Carson, I think. They don't do one-way missions, though. They say they're not doing one-way mission. She has to point on coming back, right? Well, I think we all just kind of understand what that means. I mean, the nine, isn't it like a nine-month ride? Like, that's the thing.

How do you not go crazy? It's nine months one way. Oh, remember in Avatar, they kind of put them to sleep. They do they, in the chambers. Kind of put you to sleep when you're out there. Remember? Yeah. Then when you wake up, you start floating around.

Yeah. Welcome to, bamb, bam, bam. And then you start kind of dancing around. And then if you're paralyzed, you can't do it. But then they put you in a tube, and all of a sudden, you're fucking... Yeah, the 11-foot blue thing. Yeah. There's a chance that's what she's signing up for.

And I would like to say, if she was sold that, I understand. Yeah, I get it. If you want to go be an 11-foot most athletic blue thing of all time. Right. Maybe I would say that for that.

But that is a one-way trip. I think that's what the list is probably acknowledging. Yeah. They're saying I'm coming back, but... I'm not. Is that what you're saying? Probably not. Maybe I'll make a chip for if the tide's going to turn.

Into that hole next to the garbage can? Maybe. Sounds doable. Yeah, maybe... You got that? It's the unduffable. I don't need to... I'm leaving before changing it.

AJ, you're the man. We appreciate you. Thank you for traveling out here tomorrow. I'll be live in Alabama. They got me in a sick spot. Foxy... It's awesome. They got me in a great spot.

Nice. It's been fun to... Because years past, I just go on the field, which has been awesome, showcasing the stadiums and everything like that. And obviously, I didn't know much about the college football world at that time or many people in the college football world. So now that...

you know, I've kind of met some people, know some people. The thought is like, hey, can I get a cool place that maybe I don't get third-degree sunburns? And also, maybe showcase something cool about your place. And we've really had sweet setups so far this season. I'm very thankful to everybody that has been allowing us in their building. James Franklin, I was four feet from his office. I mean, I was looking for four feet overlooking their entire facility in their stadium and everything. It was like beautiful.

This one tomorrow is a nasty setup. I mean, it is sweet. I'm very thankful. I don't know how many people get access to these. places but we're incredibly lucky and thankful that we get to do it we'll see you tomorrow be your friend tell a friend something nice might change your life we're both on the nineers plus eight and a half even though everybody thinks the rams are going to win seems too obvious yep and that wasn't four of that no no no debone debon jump up and get that ball

doesn't he that football would be perfect because it is right stuck in the room another tie no that's be bone ain't reaching a cover right there all right talk can get it look how close that is to go in it if that ball hits an inch higher yep man it bounces off of that obviously inside the paint it's amazing how it got stuck like that too like long sideways well oblong well that's because i turn that song this outways you know as a nice release it's like a simulation yeah it's like how left you see a lot of what who's running who's running somebody something we we don't have enough time to talk I don't know. And I'll tell you what, I try to check all the boxes when I'm doing this one at night.

Hey, Jesus Christ, obviously, I'm very thankful for you. I appreciate you doing what you're doing. You're dying for my sins and all of my sins. I hope you take care of me and my family and keep my daughter healthy and happy. Now, if it's not Jesus, I would like to say thank you to my families that have passed away. Family members that pass away, maybe they're up there guide me. I hope you all are okay. My friends, I hope you guys are good. If any of the other gods or whatever fucking running, I appreciate your God, I don't know. I don't know what you guys got going on, but I do appreciate it. Just want to kind of check all the boxes just in case, you know, you never know who you're going to meet up here.

I think I'm okay with basically everybody, but there's one particular one. If it's right, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. We're going to get the team on me. Team on three, never forget it. Let's enjoy tonight. Let's enjoy this life. We're in the middle of football season. Baseball has meaningful games.

Magic is happening. The fever, we're going to win the WMBA Commissioner's Cup. Is the commissioner? She's done. What is she doing? was she boozed up whenever she was saying this thing? Was she at the All-Star game here

in Indy? Just like, fuck, Taylor. What does that happen? I was listening to that quote. As Fee, I believe, is the name, she's vice president of the women, WMBAPA, whatever she speaks. There in the middle, yeah, Nefisa Call her, they call her feet.

As she was given that speech and like kind of unloading everything that was happening, I'm like, okay, we're trying to do a little leverage play here. And then she said, verbatim, I was told. And I'm like, okay, what could this be? And then she's saying, I'm like, no fucking way. What is happening right here?

That is a fatal blow, I think, because normally league is going to win the public. Players have no chance. Normally, the reason that happens whenever there's a labor dispute, team's going to be there a lot longer than any of these players are. So, hey, players, you're cool and all that. But when you're gone, this team's still going to be. This team is a part of the fabric. the city. The fans are a fan of

this team, okay, and that's how it's going to be. The players are kind of replaceable, actually. That's kind of the start of the business. So anytime there's a work stoppage or a contract negotiation or anything like that, fans and public normally all side with billionaires and teams. That is kind of what it works.

Fee kind of, Fee dropped a little she changed game a little bit. Yeah. Because now Caitlin Clark's fans are like, what'd you say? We knew she wasn't thankful. We knew she was a thing. And then the rest of the WMBA is like,

what she said? So it wasn't just Caitlin fans in the WM. Because there's been like, you know, Caitlin fans, WMBA fans. You know, there's like, what's the two circles? Van Dygram. Felt like that the shared part was very small at the beginning. Very, very small at the beginning.

And then, you know, I think it has opened up as the league has continued to do a thing, but there's still, obviously, still more on either side. It feels like this one, right here in the middle. Pist commissioner right here in the middle. What did she say? They're calling for her job.

Oh, yeah. They're calling for her job. Yeah. And then Caitlin comes out and goes, yep, everything she said. And Caitlin, well, fuck. Caitlin didn't stick up for this lady at all. What about Paige at the end of the Jayhud? Oh, yeah. Hall of Happiness.

Kathy, I bet I was the last person who got you two. And then she gives her the Rookie of the Year award. And Paige, thank you so much. It does the hug. Was that the last time we saw? Maybe. Kathy Engelbert is the commissioner of the WMBA? I think so.

They're trying. They're trying. I'm excited to see what she says next. I had four Jack Daniels. Oh, boo-hoo. I got fucked up and said some stuff I shouldn't have. When did those conversations happen? Are those in secrecy? Like, how?

She was very comfortable, clearly. Very comfortable whenever she was saying, whatever she was saying. And it's like, I hope you guys figure it out. And when Katelyn comes back, I know the fever going to win it all. And when Kelsey Mitchell gets healthy, just know what we're going to win. She got hurt last night. Damn. She was leading the team.

Leah Boston, I think, went for like a quadruple double last thing. Yeah, overtime game. Tough overtime game. Tough game. It's going to run by a fever with a lot of injuries. And on that note, feels like Kathy's about to have a long offseason. I don't know how she's going to put out those fires.

As somebody that has had a few fires around the WBA world? Sure. Those are Yeah, that's a big one. You better sound a alarm. That's a six alarm fire. Good luck.

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