The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1424 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen, TJ Oshie, Brewers Manager Pat Murphy, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by 3X Super Bowl Champion, and former Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians to recap last night’s Monday Night Football thriller between the Chiefs and the Jags and all the biggest storylines around the NFL as we enter week 6. Joining the program fresh off a massive win is Jaguars Head Coach, Liam Coen to discuss where the teams at right now, Trevor Lawrence’s development, Travis Hunter’s usage so far and how he’s managing it, his relationship with Shad Khan, and much more. Next, Stanley Cup Champion, American Hero in the Olympics, and new ESPN NHL analyst, TJ Oshie joins the progrum to preview the upcoming NHL season which starts tonight, the chances of the Florida Panthers having a 3-peat, Connor McDavid taking a big pay cut to help out Edmonton, and more. Later, 2024 NL Manager of the year, Manager of the Milwaukee Brewers, Pat Murphy joins the show to chat about how special this years Brewers team is, being able to win in multiple ways, his football coaching career, the Miz’ stuff, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Boat, The Thunderdome. On this BA day, October 7, 2025, this program begins right now. Football! That is a man who's coached for down near 50 years, the sport of football, and obviously joining us in the Thunderdome every single Tuesday. A man has become our coach, not only on the show, but also in a think tank there, both before and after these two. Tuesday shows.

Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, Bruce Hare. Yeah. Good to see you. The Toxie tables here at Boston Corner and that Ty Schmidt, nine-year NFL vet, rocking his Stanley Cup champion. Florida Panthers TARP because the NHL drops puck tonight officially to kick off another season. Derrish J. Butler is here. Yes, sir. Hey, thanks for representing hockey, by the way.

We'll certainly be doing that. Gary Betman was on Get Up this morning, chitch chatting about the NHL launching another season and it. It feels like it comes so quick, strictly because of how hard the sport of hockey is, how long the NHL season is. And for them to get started back up this quick, I think we're all we all kind of marvel at what they're able to do with their bodies. I mean, I just saw Chuck down there

at Miami when he was the guest picker. He's obviously still got a little bit of a limp going on. I think that's just for the rest of his life. That's basically all hockey players. They'll roll these guys are, I'm sorry, they'll skate these guys out onto the ice if they can just stand them up. You're talking about some of the toughest dudes in the history of any sport.

And they're also the most marvelous on with high speed, flying through the air, the dangles of their hands are incredible, and they also have a grit that they'll just eat a puck for the good of the team. Their season starts tonight. The Pittsburgh Penguins are going to be debuting this season, and I mean, Sidney Crosby is going to be doing what he has been doing for the last 20 years, which has been an absolute goat on the ice. So good luck to all these teams. Shout out to hockey. T.J. Oshie will be joining us in about 40 minutes or said of chitchat about that. He's joining ESPN's NHL coverage.

massive git. That's former Captain America. We obviously all woke up with him whenever he was in the Olympics doing his shootout. He took 55 of them against Russia and represented us all in a big time win. So he's joining ESPN's NHL coverage this year. He's going to be great and we'll chitch out with him here in a few minutes. Congratulations to hockey. Huge. This is big for us. Football though, week five last night. Continue to trend from Sunday that is actually historic in the history of the NFL. There was six double-digit comeback wins for teams around the NFL in week five.

That ties a record. I believe 2013 had six in one weekend as well. But that goes all the way back to like the 1970 merger. So normally there's been a couple five double-digit comeback, maybe three or four. If you have two of these in one weekend, I think you're pretty excited if you're

the NFL for six of them to happen, including the Monday Night Football kind of nightcap of this entire thing with the can't Chiefs end up losing to the Jacksonville Jaguars. If you're the NFL, this might have been your weakest slate you had all year. The marquee games, really not marquee games, especially with how teams have come and gone. And instead, what your league does is just steal the show with massive comebacks that you have no clue what's going to happen in any game.

Do you think this game's ever? Well, let's talk about week five of the NFL season where there are six double-digit comebacks. Did you ever think that could happen in the NFL? Now, in the NBA, obviously with the evolution of the three-point shock, comebacks are a little bit more efficient. NFL, you know, the game's too slow and not able to do that. Don't worry. We have teams that can overcome anything. And on Monday night football, Trevor Lawrence in the Jacksonville

Jaguars, come back from being down 14-0 and get a huge win at home in the Shod Khan double pool paradise with the double stumble to win this entire thing with Trevor Lawrence at the helm. Now, Trevor Lawrence has taken us a long time to realize this, and I apologize for being late to the party, he's got some Carson Went to him. There's a Trevor Lawrence experience that you go through. Because on that final drive, whenever they needed it, Now, they get the ball at the 40 because of kickoff out of bounds. We're going to talk about the kickoff because special team is certainly a part of this thing. But Trevor Lawrence is electrifying.

And whenever he needed to have a couple big time throws, we're talking absolute pinpoint accuracy, perfect decisions, perfect balls. This one down the sideline, how you doing, keep him moving? I need it. 28, 24, fourth quarter, less than a minute left. Need to sling it. He's off his back foot. Out of reach of that guy into a pocket in front of the safety. And then he takes a big time shot.

Brian Thomas Jr., how you doing, keep him moving. We got an offense. And then right afterwards, he delivers another ball to the left. Hi, he? Strait! Okay, that's 48 seconds left. Trevor Lawrence making the big-time throw that you need to make. Oh, yeah.

Can he move, though? Yeah, two touch. How about can he fall and fall and get up and still score a touchdown? And what the hell is Chris Jones doing in the middle of the field? Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars get a huge win. The celebration there with the fireworks as he throws the ball up is sick. I hope he has that as a gift in his house for the rest of the field. of his life. An actual mobile photo should be happening in his house whenever you walk in and

that's potentially the one biggest win of his career in my eyes. Most primetime big win of his career in my eyes. And also a couple massive plays that I don't think we understood if Trevor Lawrence could do it in a big moment. And he did. This thing after last week where he ran out of bounds whenever he needed to keep the clock moving, that was considered a bad decision, if he falls twice with no timeouts and he can't get his long-haired big ass up and they lose this game because of it, it would be so loud this morning. But instead, you see the urgency, the panic, the chaos within him. He gets up, finds his way home. And what the hell was Chris Jones doing? I think Chris Jones actually thought to himself, this can't be real. Quarterbacks on the ground twice

right there. He had to attack by somebody. This is like a movie. This is like a Foley's. If something bad was to happen, it's the fourth quarter, it's the game winner. There's no way he's on the ground. Looks terrible for Chris Jones. He's getting rightfully attacked. I think Chris Jones was baffled by what he was seeing in front of him. Once again, can't happen. You're in an NFL game. It's fourth quarter. You're up for and they're about to score a touchdown. You've got to make a play. But I think it's huge for the Jags. They moved to 4-1, get a huge one over the Chiefs.

People are talking about Chris Jones in this particular play. But Coach, what we're talking about off-air, this didn't really look like the Chiefs at all throughout the entire night, right? Is that kind of your thoughts on Monday Night Football? Yeah, of all things. 12 or 13 penalties. 13, yep. Red zone defense.

They're usually outstanding. And especially special teams. I mean, every kickoff got called back and then he kicked out of bounds at the end. And on that touchdown, Ezra Cleveland needs to get a game ball. If he's the left guard, he steps up and knocks that defensive end down, which opens the hole. Great job.

Boom. Knocks him down, pancakes him. And that opens the hole for Trevor to get in. Trevor gets tackled right there. There's full chaos. Now there's 24 seconds. They'll still be able to get another play off, for sure. What would that play be? Who knows? But if he can't get back up and that ends up being just a sack in this whole world, they would be judging

they'd be calling him a bust this morning. I mean, the conversation would be this guy came to it. Remember getting a playoffs, he throws like four picks or whatever it is, immediately upon against the Chargers. And then, you know, last week he runs out of bounds with the time. Then people will go back to the beginning of his career with Urban Meyer, how they're going to build a building and how has it worked out? Well, they've paid him. They appreciate him down there in the building. Obviously he's been a star since like eighth grade or whatever. But I feel like this was a big one for Trevor Lawrence to get on prime time for maybe a national narrative that he's good. This guy's a good player as opposed to somebody that might not be, which is kind of was lingering in there on the Trevor Lawrence narrative. Huge for him in prime time. You mentioned he was kind of the prince that was promised. He was one of the next great ones. He was kind of tabbed as that going into college, definitely.

So for him to add this moment. And to your point, too, with the four interception game against the Charger, that was his biggest win in his career because he came back and got that playoff win. And then this would probably be right up there. I'll probably say his second because he had some kind of goofball moments, had a couple of delay games. You know, he had to throw over the line of scrimmage. But then, or in the biggest moments to make the biggest moments to make the biggest.

gets plays. That throw to Brian Thomas Jr., that's one of the best throws I've seen him make. And then for Brian Thomas Jr., too, he started off the year rough. You saw him on everything DB, I think week one or two, when he kind of was alligator arming a couple throws for him to make this big time catch in the moment where you know you're probably

going to take a hit from this safety and you make this catch and kind of show up for your quarterback and for your team. And then for Trevor Lawrence to get down there and get it done and get to win. This was Travis Hunter's kind of debut on prime time. So it's all kind of lined up for the Jaguars to show up and they took care of business at home on Trevor's birthday.

Like, it was a big, big moment. So I'm happy for him because there are, there is moments where you know he has a talent, but there are moments where you just look at him and it almost looks like the moment's too big for him. So for him to step up and make those plays, man, this was awesome to see. Birthday game, we mentioned it yesterday. We thought that would carry some weight. It certainly did for him.

And let's talk about Travis Hunter's game. Yeah. He is awesome. I mean, he is a spectacle. Unreal. On the offensive side, now, granted, I think the orange, I'm sorry, the pink gloves and the pink cleats. I like that, by the way, breast cancer awareness, October. That used to be like something that was kind of celebrated everywhere.

But for him to be as spectacular as he, and once again, it might be the shoes and it might be the gloves that act. Certainly, because he's flying around and everything. Anytime he gets the ball, chaos on the other side. I mean, he's making people miss bad, bad. And then there's full chaos from the other team. Defense aside, what did we see from him? I saw obviously there's a couple of plays. They have him in big positions.

Travis Kelsey gets hit in the face with a ball. with Travis Hunter on him. If Travis Kelsey is lined up on Travis Hunter, that means Jacksonville has a lot of faith in Travis Hunter. What did you see from their decision-making on defense side of the ball and also Travis on the offensive side? Is that seemingly is only going to continue to grow? Yeah, yesterday on the show leading up to the game,

I was like, you know what, man? I think we all kind of were getting to the point where number two pick. We want to see him have a bigger impact, play them more, make him major more on one-sided ball and maybe sprinkle them in. But after seeing him, last night, you let Travis Hunter do it to hell that Travis Hunter wants to do it. As long as he can stay healthy, that play right there, the deep ball was special, but this play right there, you could just dump the ball to a guy in space,

and he can make NFL players look ridiculous. That's when you know you have a special athlete, and then you see him on third and three lined up on the big guy, like Travis Kelso, you know it's probably going to be a target, and then make a play. Yeah, some people wanted the flag, but this is a bang, bang play in the NFL, especially on third and short. So I like to see it for 12 to be all over the field,

kind of be that chest piece when you need them in these big-time moments, in the big time matchups. I believe he played around like 70 snaps, something like that, 60-something snaps on both sides of the ball. So it's special to watch. He's truly a unicorn out there to show up on both sides of the ball and compete and have an impact on a high level. I mean, that's what you want if you're stoner and Liam Cohen in that building.

We'll have the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Liam Cohen joining us here in about a minute or two to certainly chitch out about how he's been dealing with the reps and managing and maintaining whatever athlete we have here. This might be greatest athlete of all time. What are your thoughts on it? Obviously, the experiment of a guy playing on both sides of the field has been talked about since the beginning of football.

Way back in the day, I'm sure there was a lot of guys that actually did it, but obviously not at the speed and the reps now at wide receiver and corner would be. Does he have a chance at it from what you've seen here early? And how would you manage that throughout the week? Yeah, definitely. I think the biggest thing is the learning, the number of plays and the number of coverages in the NFL versus college. You know, you may have three or four coverages in college.

You learn them in training camp. It's over. But now you've got a different game plan every one. We, to learn both game plans, offense and defense, is the hardest part. Now, let's keep it simple for him, but he's going to play defense. Let's play a little dude coverage. You got this dude. Let's play, that's it, all right?

So let's keep you simple. And offensively, just keep feeding this guy the rock, man. He's just spectacular. Connor, you've been saying for a few weeks, like, hey, if you guys haven't been watching the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter is electric. He's on the offensive side. Yeah. Now, on the defense, it's not as easy to see because every play is inscripted for us to see

what the hell each player on the defensive side is doing as it is. on the offense side. When Travis Hunter makes a catch on the offense side, it's easier to see. When he's on defense, he's not a part of the play. It's like, well, did he have good coverage? Do you have good leverage? I have no idea unless we're watching the all 22 in real time. But you talked about his electricity factor, and I think the

world got to see it last night. Love the gloves. Sure. Love the cleats. Love that every time he has the ball, he's trying to do something. And it's like his mentality is energy. Everything is like infectious, I would assume. Yeah, and that... It radiates through the screen. Truly does. Like, even

when he's making plays, just he's always smiling. I mean, he covered Xavier Worthy perfectly, and then he basically limped off, not because he was hurt or anything. He was probably, you know, a cramp. It was hot. It's awesome. He's playing both ways. I think it's stupid he does. I'll be completely honest.

Just because, like, look what he does when he gets the football, right? He had three catches. If he plays you know, the entire game on offense, does he have eight catches? And on defense, he is incredible, right? But, you know, he locked down Travis Kelsey, but if he were to be covering Travis Kelsey the whole night, is Travis Kelsey scoring a touchdown.

That's what I just don't understand. Well, let's find out how it's going to be managed, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. His guy who's in charge down there in Duvonne. Head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, ladies and gentlemen, I'm sure he's got a fresh pair of shoes on his feet. He's probably swagged out immensely,

fresh off a massive dub on Monday night football against the Chiefs, who could potentially be in a middle of a dynasty. This team may be beginning one. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Liam Cohen. Yeah, Coach! How are you, dude? Thanks, guys.

Appreciate you guys, man. Sorry, we've got losing my voice a little bit here, man. I would be emotional after last night. Obviously, we enjoy listening to your speeches afterwards when you're talking to the boys, and we assume throughout the week the amount of messaging that you're sending to this squad is also a lot. So we appreciate you utilizing some of your vocal cords

on this glorious preparation Tuesday in chatting with us after the biggest win of your head coaching career. Congratulations. Yeah. Congrats. Okay, so obviously Kansas Chiefs coming to town.

This is Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes. What was your messaging to the boys? And is it the same? Like, hey, we're building something special here and there's an opportunity.

Is that your messaging? And how did you get to this point you think with this locker room? Yeah, the messaging has been pretty clear each week is just for us to go out and try to get better each and every week, regardless of the logo that we're playing. You know, we've had great opportunities

to play against some really quality of opponents. But it's really about us correcting every week and getting better each and every week. But the style of play in which these guys are playing with, physical, relentless, tough, no flinch, no blink mentality. I've been really proud of the way these guys have competed. A lot of things to clean up, but through five weeks, been proud of these guys. Okay, so let's talk about your team playing fast, you know, fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters. And, tough you know let's talk about them playing fast as a whole is that the is that the one that's on a shirt that's right over your right shoulder right there is that the entire team motto for

the year yeah that's that's our style play motto and that's something that we've adopted through you know working over the years with sean McVe and and other guys where you think of okay what is it we want to look like when people turn on our tape uh what is our resume ultimately that's what fast speaks to and look it hasn't been perfect but but the mentality that these guys have played with each and every week. Last week, Hunter Long, fundamentally sound, getting down in a critical third down to beat San Fran. You know, we've been attacking the football with the turnovers, you know, fundamentally sound all throughout situational masters, tough. These are things that we try to show them each and every week great examples of.

And man, these guys are continuing to do it each and every week. Let's talk about situational masters. Trevor Lawrence knew like hell he had no timeouts whenever he fell the first time. Then when he fell the second time, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. Then he obviously makes an incredible play. Last night was a little bit of the Trevor Lawrence experience while we were watching it. Primetime game, Can City Chiefs. This shot right here is epic as the fireworks literally go off at the same time he throws the football.

Tell me about Trevor Lawrence as your quarterback and what last night could potentially mean for what the world thinks or sees of Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I was really proud of Trevor in the way that he competed. That was the thing that I think continued to show up through four quarters was even after maybe a mistake or not a great series, he just, he looked ticked off throughout the game, honestly, which I was appreciative of in ways. He used his legs. He took some hits.

And then the last drive, I mean, everybody's going to talk about that last play, but the throw to BTJ down the right sideline, height window, great job. staring down the barrel there and making a huge throw and catch. The next play to Diami Brown on the left side line was a dot, and then we get to that situation, and look, he ends up getting tripped. That does happen. You know, it's just so happened that it happened on this play. And look at the resiliency, the effort, that's an unbelievable individual effort to go get in the end zone

and get us the W. And that's a two-minute drive to go beat a team that has been really good in one-score games over the course of history. And for us to pull that out, and for him to make that play, really proud of him. Yeah, I'm proud of your entire team down early. Yeah. Hell yeah. And, you know, you guys are now four and one tied for the lead in the AFC with Buffalo Bills and...

I think that's it. Who's that other team? I think it's just that other team, Liam. It's another one. They are playing at a high level right now. There is no question. And we are trying to get better each and every week. It is truly about us, but you can appreciate.

And when you watch the tape around the league, what Indy's been doing, obviously what Buffalo has been doing, there's so much good football being played right now. And you look around the league, the points that are being scored, quarterback play. I mean, it's all really cool to watch. And so for us to be a part of that and to be in that conversation right now is pretty cool. We've got an opportunity this week against Seattle at home again. or we're going to need our fan base

and sit to come support again for us. Yeah, I would like to say you're obviously in there doing it, and I'm just having jacking diets at the games for the Colts, but nobody would have pictured us. Look at us. Nobody would have pictured the Jags and the Colts

and the AFC South having the two whenever you go into the year. That's why the NFL is the greatest. Football is the best sport on earth, and if you can get the boys motivated and rolling, anybody can beat anybody, especially with how you guys look on the defense. 99-yard pitch six.

Kevin Lloyd backing it up. So big, big addition, defense coordinator and Anthony Campinelli, what is he brought to? Because last year, I think you guys only, and obviously you weren't there, but the Jags only had like nine takeaways, already up to 14 leading the National Football League and taking the football away.

What is that D.C. brought to the unit? Campi is his fire, his passion, his authenticity. I've known Anthony Campanelli for a long time. I watched him coach at Boston College when I was at Maine doing professional development, and that was the time where I said, this is the guy I want to hire to be my D.C. someday.

And he's got these guys playing at a really high level in terms of the way they attack the football, the way that they coach it, the way that they teach it, the way that these guys are repping it every single day in practice. It's his personality showing out for this defense to be able to continue to be them and mold who they want to be as a unit,

and it's pretty cool to see. Not fumbling at the half yard line there. Great play. For what we thank God, for the good of ball, that did not happen for the third time in two weeks. Absolutely. And if you just run that play back from the beginning, Foxy, like, and you just look at the effort.

First of all, the heads-up play, that's a play that we saw picked off from a Coober earlier in the year, St. Rock concept off the tip. But you see, it's one fast guy on the field, Thornton, and you see Allen's Allen kind of peek by boom, just bump them off right there, and that's the difference of him getting in the end zone or not. So, like, all these guys been on the same page, post-snap, pre-snap.

Like, that's phenomenal, man. I love seeing shit like that. Buy-in, brother. You got a good locker room down there. You know, there's been a lot of Jaguars teams. Mm-hmm. I think that's all they would say. Yeah, exactly.

That's all they would say. You know, like, hey, they've got a lot of teams down there. Yeah. They've had people playing down there. Certainly. Beat the Colts every single year down there. But seemingly nothing else for you to have the boys this quickly into your stint, you and Stoner, having everybody.

bought in, I feel like there is a true, like eager for success down there, like a yearning for success. And that owner, brother, from what we know from outside looking in, he's all in. Ty has a question. Yeah, coach, I'm just curious. Is this what you envisioned in January? I mean, obviously, it's happened in September after last night. It's happening in October. Do you get the sense that this is going to last forever? Or where are we sitting right now? easy leave yeah i mean look the shod's vision for what this you know ultimately want to look like from a leadership standpoint and and having tony becelli on board with james um has been really fun and working with the entire building the staff coaches players has been really fun from the

beginning it hasn't all been rainbows and butterflies but we've gotten through to just being having a great communication in the building and everybody on the same page and we've had some real honest conversations with our players and in team meetings about what we want this to look like and not really surprised honestly. I think that the guys, they were hungry when we got here. Like, this was a hungry team. They know that they have to go out and prove it and take something and compete to show and get respect and have pride about what you're doing. Really proud about where we're at right now. Let's talk about some of your guys. There was a moment where this thing could have one way that I think Jags fans would have expected potentially

of yesterday year, but maybe not this year. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Coach, last night you guys ended up tying the record for the NFL and most double-digit comebacks. It was incredible, but what was it like when you were down 14-0? Was it kind of a quiet sideline? Was there someone, you know, kind of walking up and down getting everyone going? How would you describe that atmosphere during that point in the game? Yeah, it was a shocker a little bit because we hadn't, you know, really been behind that much early on in games. And so I did think that we had some really juiced up energy, I think, going into the game. I wouldn't say it was, you know, not ready for the moment or

bright eyes. I think we were a little bit overly juiced and came out and just really needed to compose ourselves. I think Anthony Campanelli grabbed the defense after the second score and was very vocal, had the whole group over there trying to communicate what the standard and expectations are. And those guys followed suit. And then I just saw Trevor, like, his, His demeanor throughout the entire game guys was so steady in a fiery way. He had a look in his eyes all day that we were going to be confident about coming back from a 14-point deficit. And we just chipped away at it and made some plays in critical moments. I like to hear that about Trevor, bro.

Because he's always been like super chill guy. Because I think, and you would know him better than me, and I'm not a sociologist, which I think would be the people that would be doing this study. Oh, I am. Okay. So, Debut, you can be the one that maybe answers for us here. I think because he's been so popular for so long, he's been forced almost to not act arrogant, don't act too confident, also don't be too, like since he's like eighth grade, they've been saying, this guy's the guy. And I think this has been during the era of cell phones.

So like I think Trevor Lawrence throughout his entire high school career, college career, and he's been basically forced to just have no emotion almost, you know? So I think people take that as a way maybe he's not as intense or whatever, but I think he literally wasn't allowed. So just like you're saying, us from a group of people that have been watching him for the last seven, eight years, because he plays against, or how many years he's been five years or whatever, because we, I like that he's getting. I like that ball throw. Yeah. Like, I like that shit. And it sounds like you do as well. It feels like you're getting maybe the most out of Trevor Lawrence or freeing Trevor Lawrence.

Like, how do you feel like whenever, because this guy has been a star since eighth grade? Like, how is it dealing with him? And obviously, you being a quarterback must help at least a little. bit. There's truth to the fact that he's been in the, you know, the spotlight for a long time. I don't know if there's many people better with the media than Trevor in terms of the way he speaks to people with such humility and honesty. That's how he speaks to our team and to our players. And that's what makes him a leader. That's why he showed out in a moment like that last night is because he's able to take responsibility for his actions in front of people, in front of

group in front of coaches. There's an honesty there that he wants to continue to get better, and we haven't even really gotten there fully. And last night was a huge step in the right direction. I think there's a lot of meat on the bone, and last night was a great moment for Trevor to continue to go forward. He's just so, he's everything you want, tall. The hair was almost more perfect last night than ever. I don't know if it was birthday. And jawline also shining on the birthday. and then obviously the can't. And then that last play, unbelievable to score a touchdown. Coach B.A. has a question for you.

Coach Cohen. Hey, congrats, man. I know how it is to get to four and one your first year, but I just want to know that Ezra Cleveland and get a game ball because I'm definitely giving him one when he fell down twice and he just pancakes that left end and opens that hole up for him.

And I'm definitely giving Ezra game ball on that one. Sounds like you're being forced to as well. Hey, coach. Thank you. You know, so much respect, VA. You know, you, those guys up front have been playing that way. And Ezra has definitely taken that physical mindset, and he's done that a lot this season. You know, look, he's playing, he's playing, they're just playing through toughness and grit.

And I really appreciate Ezra. He's definitely going to be up for a game ball. That's what it's, hey, Ezra, congrats, dude. That boy, Ezra. Congrats, dude. Sounds like you got one. B.A.'s hand out game bowl is for retirement. I love that.

I love that. Start tossing them around building. Maybe it should be BAs game balls. Definitely. The second. B.A. Ball. Boom. B.A.'s balls.

Everybody wants to be a part of B.A.'s balls. Coach, ain't definitely a good. Is that the truth? Go ahead. Take it easy. Hey, real question here. We were talking about as you were coming on. I assume you heard a little bit as we were setting up the camera.

The Travis Hunter usage. And I think last night was the most. A lot of us had seen him play since when he was at Colorado. He's spectacular. I mean, the gloves. in the cleats were certainly a part of it but anytime he gets the ball it's like holy shit there anything could happen here and then on defense aside you guys have enough faith in them to be lining up against goat first ballot hall of famer in Travis kelsey there's conversations

about will he be able to play full time on both sides of the ball how are you going to manage that it's a lot of obviously intel that he has to learn let alone managing the body and everything like that and on the offensive side we see that we think there's not a lot of people that can do that why we waste any time on defense aside but then you guys are probably saying we put them on Travis on third down, there's not a lot of people that could do what he could do on the defensive side. How are you managing it? Where are we? And there's a story going around that you were a part of actually, Eli said, something about maybe he didn't practice offense in college. If you would like to clarify all that type of shit into one convo, we'd like to let you know

he's a special talent from our sites. How are you guys handling it all? And what's the plan? Yeah, I mean, it's been a work in progress that each week you're continuing to look at how to improve the schedule, the operation. I think we're in a good place right now with how he spends his time, both on the offense and defense's side during the week. And look, he made the most of some unbelievable opportunities last night. And really, it was starting over the last few weeks. We just, you know, didn't connect on a few.

He's been open a few times or just whatever happened, it didn't come to fruition. And last night to see him go out and make the plays with the ball in his hands, run after catch, the energy that he brings, really, really cool to see. And then the defense, you know, as much as we can get them out there and get them in positions to be successful, we want to keep doing. So what's the tap on this? I can't tell you.

I think it's only getting better and better as we go. I'm really excited to see what it's going to look like week in and week out. It's somebody we've got to continue to get the ball to and get the ball on his hands. Him and BT had great nights last night, made a huge plays for us. And then he practiced on defense, excuse me, on offense at Colorado. It was just primarily defense. Got it. And then that's when he would go out, you know, look at the signals from the sideline,

which is that's what they did. There were a no-huddle operation. So I think it was he practiced on offense, just not very much. It was way more on defense. He got in the walkthroughs on offense. And look, they used them and made him a Heisman trophy winner. And he did that on his own. He did that with that help of Colorado.

We're hoping to continue to. do that so he can be the best version of himself. So he was primary defense with offensive packages basically whenever he was at Colorado is kind of what you're saying. Yeah, he's just a little bit more primary on defense with I think the meeting time, the time

allocated and they caught him up more in the walkthroughs and maybe a practice or a period or two during the day in practice on offense. So he's gotten the work at both. It was just a little bit more defense than offense there. and where we've been kind of flipping that

and doing more offense and defense from just development standpoint of playing the receiver position and what goes into not just a formation and emotion but reading coverage on a play or going and executing and being at the right spot at the right time. He's getting better and better

and we're excited about what's in store. So Coach Prime obviously has a lot of NFL guys that have played on his coaching staff. And I think that's what all NFL guys asked immediately upon that Travis Hunter is going to play on both sides of the ball. Well, how is he going to spend his meeting time? That is literally what everybody that's ever played in the NFL or has been in the

building. Like, how is he going to manage that? Everybody's talking about, like, on the field, but what about, like, install and everything else that takes place? So I appreciate you guys saying, like, he's a weapon on offense, we got to get him in here. But it sounds like, on the defense aside, whenever there's, he has a package for defense,

maybe, it might change game to game. Is that something we're just assuming there now at this point? Yeah, he's basically campy knows like our Travis is in these are more of my priority calls try to stick with more of these it's not just necessarily a package it's just all right trying to be in a good area of doing

what he does best or what he knows best as well whether that's playing cloud or 3D or man and just trying to simplify some of that but he has to know a ton of the calls he has to know all the red zone calls the situational third down calls he's got to know a lot of each game plan guys I mean, the amount of time that is spent throughout the day

when he's not in a meeting on offense, he's definitely with the defense or vice versa. There's not a minute his time throughout the day that isn't being utilized during practice, during special teams. He's doing indie on offense or defense. It's full go. He's got a lot of work to do each and every week,

and so do his coaches, and it's getting better and better. What a special talent, man. That's incredible. Honestly, you talk about that tough down there at the bottom and it says mentally and physically, obviously to get through all that, you've got to be an incredible shape, you've got to be a phenomenal athlete. But mentally, that can all be draining. Like, just like this, this, this, this is the NFL too. It's not like we're just running, you know, we got six plates. Yeah. Yeah. That ain't how this is going. It is. That's a lot. Special talent,

obviously, worthy of the move that you guys made to go get him. If you'd like to clarify some things, we would certainly allow you to utilize this platform to do as such. We put this tail of the tape up. No, we have made one at it. We have made one at it. We put your size at 6-2. Remember, we had you at 6-1 there. Yeah. And the Internet did change.

We had to find a little bit more. We will say AI and Wikipedia, got you wrong. They did. Your college football stats, obviously got you right at 6-2-223. Your 3-1-0 is a head coach. That has changed since then. Oh, yeah. You know, 4-1-0.

Yep, roll up to sleeves. Roll up to sleep. Looks like he's in better shape, too. That looks like 205 now. Yeah, you might be down too a little bit slim. Yeah, maybe not getting to eat as much because we've got a couple more things coming across our desk. This situation here, we're past it. We're past it, hopefully, coaches, we've bygones be bygones.

And how did it feel to get introduced as the head coach to the world about, hey, this guy's willing to fight people? How was this all see? How has it been his head coach with all this shit? How has it been? No, look, I've got a ton of respect for Robert Salon and Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco 49er. sometimes the emotions get the best of you and ultimately you want to be able to have a lot of respect for those guys. We competed against them twice a year and there's probably some pent-up emotions

L.A. San Fran games and so, you know, lost my emotions there and look, I got a lot of respect for those guys. But look, being a head coach in this league, it's staying and day out, right? There's so much, as you said, come across your desk. You deal with being in the public spotlight. And it's fun, though. We've had a blast. I've had a blast doing this with this team, with this staff. You know, hopefully we're getting better each and every week,

and these guys are playing their tails off. But it's been fun to leave this team. You've been crushing it, man. It's been fun to watch you as well. And we like a little bit. Love it. Yeah, we like that, man. Hey, we're playing.

This is competitive. It's football, bitch. Yeah, that's what we're doing here. That's what we're doing. I like when there's a little bit of sauce. And your boys clearly enjoyed as well. Those locker room moments are beautiful. And that's what everybody misses.

I'm happy to see you get a chance to enjoy them down there in Jacksonville. You guys just might be the second best team in the AFC South. Fuck out, you mean. You guys. All right. Don't know that against me, please. I don't need to be adding any billboard material. I have a big Jacksonville Jaguars fan.

You guys are an incredible team. Okay, all right. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of Jacksonville Jaguars. Fresh off a big win over the Kansas City Chiefs, four and one down there. Duvon. Liam Cohen, you're the best thing. Yeah, Coach.

He's a man. The man. It is. It is. He's been very cool to us. Legit. We have a lot of mutual. Liam and us have a lot of mutual. We didn't know that until he got this big.

And we started, you know, our entire Duval thing. Then we started getting text from people like, yo, yo, yo, yo. He's a great guy. He's a good guy. And he's he and all this. Same age now. We're at that age and that age where a lot of guys our age are getting in head jobs. And now we got to start keeping on like a record of, like, coaches who start off

look like Dufus. in the press conference and then go on and beat like Dan Campbell Nick Siriani and we got Liam well Gannon you know

the conversation is going over to Gannon because Gannon wasn't the opening press conference Gannon got got by some social media degree have an expert who remember that

for the carcans they put him out to work today and he's going to who's going who's going to fire in your belly that one and then

peopo peal spousy shots and they were just they were just letting this into the world. We didn't really know who this guy was. And they're like, hey, here's the new Arizona Cardinal and said, Coach.

Who's putting this out? Somebody wants this guy dead. Oh, it's the Arizona Cardinal social media team. Oh, geez, all right. This guy's getting buried. Now there's a whole other situation happening with old Coach Cannon. He struck a player. Oh, no, I can't do that.

Here's a sideline interaction that happened between Coach Cannon. His hat actually gets off. He turned a little bit, and he hits him in chest on a way out. a fist bump that might or ah that might have hit his arm too i don't know from this angle he can't really see it from the back angle you don't really know exactly what happens but there certainly appears to be two different shots and i would say this um there's certainly a way of speaking about it that i've heard people doing about i heard somebody say assault i heard uh this guy struck a man i heard somebody saying i believe there were some other media ways to say it i guess that is

technically what took place there i do wonder how this all works out though because they're saying there's going to look into it what's the NFL do what the cardinals do we got coach b a here obviously coached b a coach uh football for 47 years was coached with bear bryant that's right and we've obviously heard the story yeah of like bair bryan i think we all understand what football coaches have certainly done in the past of football with a lot of very good football teams and how you know it's a physical sport a lot of ex-football people in there there's a chance but nowadays it feels like with us being able to see everything and what uh good coaches have been able to accomplish

without doing it and everything like, how do you feel about this, B.A.? Because this is, Gannon, I think if you were to ask old football guys, he really, he could have grabbed them and actually shook him and let him know that there are 10 families that are about to lose their jobs and have to pick up and move because of what you just did.

We work so hard to just try to score one touchdown, let alone that touchdown, and you go ahead and just throw it. everybody's future basically in the trash kit is what Gannon is probably relaying in that exact moment. But in modern world, that shit is very unique, I would say, not happening on a very regular basis. So old school football people probably think of one thing. Gannon living in a modern world, how do you think it all shapes up? And what is normally due process here? Like the NFL calls, the Cardinals will call, kind of how does it work if you had to give it? Yeah, I'm old school.

I didn't think that much of it. And it's like he didn't grab his face mask, tear his helmet. it off like they did back in the 80s. Yeah, of course. Throw it up in the stand. Of course, yeah. I've seen what those. No, I think, yeah, the league will contact the Cardinals. The Cardinals will handle it internally, and

I hope everything comes out okay for him because I think he's a hell of a coach, and sometimes the emotion, and I'm sure they just showed the Colts play in their locker room, all right, to the whole team, make sure we don't let this happen, and we let it happen. You know, and it's like, yeah, you're going to lose your shit sometimes.

Debutt, your thoughts on how it all. I'm on the opposite side, and maybe this is the coach player thing. And I saw it might have been on Get Up, but it had like Cardinal Sin. I thought it was a good headline because it is kind of that line. You know, you yell, you do everything that you do. But as a grown man, there is kind of like, hey, just don't put your hands on. We saw the conversation with Urban Meyer. And just when that happens, we know the emotions are high.

You know, it's a lot of testosterone during the game on the sideline. Now, in that moment, if the player snaps, because he's going through a lot too, he goes back and he whoops getting his ass now he's the bad guy you know what i mean we saw with lamar jackson that situation in the crowd it's the same thing you know just keep my hands and so we talked that as a child i understand emotions get high i understand you know what it used to be and shit like that but um that is the line that you cross and once you i teach my kids hey you put your hand on somebody you can't you can't control how they retaliate so that's kind of always uh that line i don't think he he meant it in a terrible way but uh you know

you just can't cross that line in my opinion i think the first one could get away with saying i was telling him come on here we go i was giving him like a come on shot that first one it's the second one that i think he hits him in the arm with a head butt there that people that that that second one i think is what's going to be a tough but on that note vastly different worlds than what it used to be like vastly different worlds and again it knows that he's been coaching in this era yeah this entire time and over there are the cardinals ever are the Are there... No.

No. That game, well, guess what? B.A. ain't walking through the door in two weeks. That game, they lost to the Titans on Sunday. I feel like they lose two of those games a year. Two of those games a year. And Coach Danden says it feels like we lose two of them a week. Yeah, exactly. And he lost his mind over there.

But that's also the other side of it. It's like if the Cardinals are four and one after that, this kind of just gets brushed under the rug. It's like, whatever. You know, heated, they, and all the emotions, It happens, but because they're not playing necessarily well and they're starting to lose a little bit, it's like, now wait a minute. Not only are they playing like shit, but their coach is acting like this on the sideline.

Maybe we reassess this situation. Now, East Coast bias, or whatever they call it, media is certainly something. If this dude did this and had the results that he's having for a team that was... New York Jons. Or New York Jets or any of these, any team over on basically that gets covered a lot, this would be the... Oh, yeah. This would be the big...

Talking about it for 45 minutes today. Yeah, this would be... They would have think pieces about this entire... State of coaching would be coming out in this entire thing. But because it is Arizona, and because there's really... I mean, this sucks to say. I know you got a lot of connections back there, and shit, AQ's color comment. Yes, he is.

But because it's Arizona, it's like there's no real thought that they're going to win anything, which sucks. Yeah. Because that city is... I might be the best city, and I'm not going to say. It's top five. It is one of the greatest places on earth, let alone in the United States of America. And it seems like they have everything you would possibly want or need to win,

just seemingly nowhere near it at this point. But everything could change. And maybe Gannon stops hitting his players. Maybe these guys will win a football game. You know, that's literally what an argument now is all of a sudden. Well, and it's the toughest division. Like, this is as high stakes as it gets, I feel like, for a coach in Gannon's position, just because it's a make or break year.

That shit's happening on a football. football field in a major break year. You're losing to a team that legitimately might win only one game this year. And that is against the Cardinals now. That's tough. The biggest winner of this that we're not really talking about is Brian Callahan. He's probably going up on his press conferences like, oh, you think I'm a prick? You see what this guy's doing to his players? Sure, I get upset about the game. And then I, you know, maybe talk with a little edge to some of you guys. But hey, at least I'm not jumping over this table. I'm punching you in the face, Paul Kuharski, okay?

So it could be much worse. And it's kind of awesome for Cali. And like, shout out to Cam Ward. Cam Ward. You know, that's his first NFL win. Like, and the whole story is about how the other coach is beating the piss out of his player on the side. Congratulations.

That's like, you know, I wish Dan Oka posted him on Twitter so I could have seen him. Why didn't he? He did not a lot. What? Excuse me. That's what he said. What do you say? I want to show you these throws so bad that Cam Ward made, but I'm not.

allowed to post them to it anymore. Well, why don't you go negotiate a deal with the NFL, Dan, like everybody else does? Oh. Oh, not everybody, I guess. Just some of us. Go do it, Dan. Yeah. It's no problem.

Just go reach out to them, negotiate a deal, or have your little agents do that for it. There you go. You know, so you get the deal done. And I only say little agents because we actually know who they are, and they are tiny little phone. And I assume they're good lads, good lads. Yeah, we don't know for sure, but we assume they're good for Titans fans. And since I'm not a lot of post video on here,

anymore. That's on you, Dan. You acting like that's on somebody else. That is you're an adult, okay? Since it's against the law to steal other people's content, I'm not allowed to. Since the NFL is expecting me to call them and say, hey, can I do this with your

shit? There's a lot of people on the internet doing that. Oh, yeah. It's about time. I don't know if Dan's the right guy to be going after, and I think probably miscommunication here from people who don't know what the hell's going on at certain places, but I think the NFL is in the middle of a potential everybody's having a good time to stealing our shit

time and I don't know if they're going to like now on that note I'm the doofus who's been paying them for years while everybody else has just been yanking it's been stealing their shit and I have literally just been like I feel like I'm supposed to do this 15% to the corner you know

America gangster now he kills the guy and then does it he does but we like the NFL too yeah I didn't want to do it so I'm just 15% of the corner I just always thought it was the right thing to do because we were running the internet show it's like hey I'm running a lot of your guys' shit feels like I should because you guys are just going to sue me

incessantly if we don't just got to work the deal Dan then all of a sudden you can do your little listen what this guy does the whole thing see but I love this gimmick for Dan like this is Dan Orlovsky like you know here you know what I'm going to do fine I'm going to post 12 times stamps

of plays you need to go watch right now go do some homework okay I've been grinding tape like this if I were going to think of how Dan's going to do this this is it go ahead post a bunch of of plays from the game and make the fans go find them. Somebody did. T.J. Lane, actually went and found

him and then posted it on the thread. That's good football. That's good internet and good football. Dan, I don't want to tell your little agents what to do, but NFL Plus is trying to run a little stuff. They got the All-22. You can certainly do Sunday ticket, I think, probably is a way you could go through

there. NFL films, probably a way you could probably get in there. This would require a little forethought and a handshake or two. a conversation but and money then we need and there will have to be some sort of business done there but i think dan we need it yeah because i can't be just banking on t j lang stealing their shit no and put it up there every single time join us now ladies and gentlemen is a league representative that used to just hit us with we used to get sued by this company oh yeah more than anybody whenever we were just a internet show instead of falling under the umbrella license our show

through ESPN then all of a sudden we're umbrella subsidiaries of a couple of the other leagues and it's a league that we've been a fan of since I was a little boy I grew up in Pittsburgh I was very lucky to grow up in a hockey time and I'm very lucky that I'm United States of American because there's been great USA hockey players ever since the beginning obviously everybody talks about the miracle on ice and obviously that's something special but how about whenever you wake up and you watch the Olympics and there's an American taking on Russia all by his goddamn self just back and forth on the ice who's fighting Russia this guy who's beating Russia this guy I immediately fell in love with this man then I learned quickly

oh this dude's an absolute legend a true beauty a Stanley Cup champion an NHL legend in a man that fought for the United States of America now on ESPN's NHL coverage Tj Oshu yeah TjeeJ what's up boys what's up how we doing hey great thank you so much for joining us on this official puck drop to the NHL season. Congrats on joining the ESPN's coverage. And I would like to say ESPN's lucky they got you as well. So I'm very happy that that happened, man.

How are you feeling going into the season? And what are your thoughts? Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah, super excited to join ESPN. I mentioned it on my social media, but my dad, like my childhood, little childhood before like the high school days.

My dad fell asleep to Sports Center like every night of his life. So this would have been a dream coming. true for him, but I'm excited. I'm excited to get the season rolling. I've never watched as a fan before, retiring in June. So this will be my first year. I actually didn't watch any hockey growing up at all. So this will be my first year being, yeah, I know, it's weird.

It's really weird. Well, I'm happy you're the expert. I'm going to be listening to. Jeez, Louise. Well, I know the game. I gave me wrong. I played long enough. I can follow pretty good, but I'm excited to sit,

back and be able to see some more hockey this year. I think your perspective is going to be glorious, actually, if you've never watched how hockey's been covered. That is something that is, I'm kind of intrigued to see how you break it down, because you're going to see things obviously that people haven't seen, and then you're going to realize, like, you might change the way hockey's covered. You might be like, hey, here's something that maybe we need to look for, and they might add a camera, the OSHA camp.

You might save the entire sport because you've never watched the sport that you're about to cover before. Let's talk about how many years you played, and let's talk. How do you think the NHL has changed with its relationship with media? Because there's been a long time where we don't know anything about the hockey players, really, the NHL players. We grew up in Pittsburgh, and all we knew is they won, and then after you win a Stanley Cup, everybody parties. And then these things, these hockey players just kind of disappear, they go into hibernation, and they somehow get in a better shape, and then they have another season, we don't hear anything.

Then I think spit and chicklets kind of open the door a little bit, and then the kind of the way we've learned about hockey players has kind of grown. multiple different networks and platforms having the NHO now. How do you feel that has, like, kind of affected the locker room or hockey? And how much more do you think we have in that department to grow the game, if you will? I think there's definitely a lot of room. We'll start there. I think the emergence of people having their own platforms, your own social media, if you're getting guys to see a little bit more personality,

I think hockey in general is a very team, very tight sport. You don't give anyone anything. You know, it's upper body, lower body. Sometimes that's even wrong. So it's hard for as a team because you don't want to give anyone anything on you and you want to put the team in front of yourself at all times. And so I think hockey is doing a good job and getting into the where the team still is first, but now with social media and some other things, you're able to see the player's personalities

a little bit. Maybe it's not, you know, in every interview, but I mean, the hockey culture is one that's fantastic to be a part of, a lot of really, really good people. And so it's great to see some more personalities come out and you can kind of learn a little bit more about people. And instead of, you know, like you said, kind of hibernating and going away, same thing when we won the cup. You know, we didn't know what to do. We were like, the fans felt like such a big part of this. We're going to party in the streets. We're opening it. the doors to everything. And it was a great way to celebrate. I know the fans loved it. We loved it. And yeah, but like you mentioned,

Spitting Chickens does a good job. They kind of go behind the scenes a little bit. A couple of NHL guys on there, a couple of my buddies. But there's definitely still a lot more room to see the personalities of the players. If you could actually see in the locker room how we are, it's, I mean, I play with Ovi. So like, if you could see kind of how we are in the locker room, it's wild. Yeah, it's an incredible culture. And I think part of your culture is like, hey, don't bring the attention on yourself, which is why we respect and appreciate

the culture so much, but it's hard to grow the culture when the culture is, I don't want any fucking attention. It's like a constant battle, but I think hockey's in the middle of a great renaissance right now, and we're thankful and pumped that you're going to be a part of the coverage. You just mentioned Ovi, we had him on the show last year. He immediately

introduced everybody on team. Hey, this is fucking. Hey, this is. It was amazing. It was incredible. He's OG, but I do think he's a good representative of how hockey players feel. On that note, you talk about taking in the streets. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, T.J., you said you guys didn't know what to do after you won the Stanley Cup, but that feels like bullshit because Oveskin did it better than anybody in the history of the NHL.

What was it like following his lead when it came to party? And we know it was like on the ice. It seemed as though he, you know, he knew what he was doing, scoring goals. Now he's the greatest goal scorer of all time. What was it like kind of once you win that cup and you're looking at, Alex Ovechkin and some of those guys in that locker room and, you know, you basically just party for 10 days straight. Was it just the time of your life or what? Yeah, I mean, it definitely was. I mean, we felt like we were on top of the world.

Yeah, there's probably not a better guy to party with when you win the Stanley Cup than the big man. I mean, we had a lot of good times. I'll tell you when I kind of came up with, in the you know the cake stand the cup stands um i was i was going to go super hot out and i was like there wasn't a lot of beer coming to us there's fans around us and i was like we got to do something to fire this thing up and so i was like i told tom wilson it mean we're kind of partners in crime a little bit and uh i was like hey let's let's go do a a cake stand on the cup he's like really i was like yeah let's let's do this and he's like all right all right let's go let's go and i'm like, wait, wait,

Ovi has to be first. And I'm not a big guy at all. OV's a lot heavier than me. And so me and Tom, Tom has no problem. But we're lifting Ovi upside down to do a cup stand. And I remember that that next day, from lifting the cup,

from lifting up Ovi, and then the rest of the guys that funneled in, my arms, I could barely lift my arms over my head. Upper body. Yeah, I was an upper body for sure. I was on the men for a couple weeks. But, you know, we got her going the next day, and I forgot about it.

But, no, the big man, he definitely sets the tone, and we all follow. And, you know, the pictures I have on my phone of, you know, me and him celebrating just pure joy is pretty special. Tonight we got a three-piece as we launch this next hockey season. And Penguins, Rangers at 8 p.m., Blackhawks, Panthers, shoot it off, skate it off. I don't know what you guys say. Drop it off. It's not kick it off, whatever it is, at 5 p.m. And then 10.30, Avalanche and Kings.

Everybody's hunting one particular trophy. And you just mentioned it there, the Cup. There's been one team that seemingly wants to own it forever. And Debutt, South Florida Native, has been a fan since the beginning. Hell yeah. Has a question for you, T.J. 31, 32 years. TJ, he just talked about party, brought me back some flashbacks at the elbow room

in the last couple of years. But our leader, the guy that sets the tone for us, Barkie will be out. for a significant time turning his ACL MCL. What are our chances getting that three peat with Barky been down and Chuck even kind of limping into the season? I think

I mean, I think Florida just has to get in, right? The guys are going to have to step up, which is very hard to do over a long period of time. We saw that with, you know, with our captain with Ovi. If he was out for a couple games, you know, we could make do. We could find a way to spread out the contributions, but over a long period

of time is very tough in the NHL. Barkie, a guy, I respect a ton, very hard to play against. Chuckie, a great, obviously phenomenal player. I played with his dad back in St. Louis back in the day. It's going to be tough for sure, but if anyone can do it, it's them. I mean, they're just built for a next man up mentality. You watch them in the playoffs. Every player sacrifices and does the things that are necessary for the team to win,

not necessarily for them to get their cookies. So it's a team that's built to make another run at it. The injuries are definitely going to hurt. And if they can find a way to recover from that, they can find some of these young guys to step up into these larger roles. I think they're going to be right there in the postseason. And who knows with how people have been coming back from these knee surgeries lately. If Barkov gets back in, when Chucky gets in, he's going to be phenomenal.

So it's going to be fun to watch, fun to tag along. I don't know how you and Morrissey get along or not. Didn't mention his name. He's back down there, obviously. That's a huge trade. I like you. Any rivals that you have to carrying into TV, I think is a good thing and not a bad thing. We have about 35 seconds here, but we have to ask.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, T.J. Quick here. Connor McDavid signed a two-year, 12.5 million per extension with the Oilers. A lot of people saying, hey, crazy, this guy who is so talented left this much money on the table. What are your thoughts on this? And does this ultimately just kind of set up, hey, if he doesn't get it done in Edmonton, here in the next couple years, then he has definitely gone. Yeah, I'll start it up with, as a teammate, if I was Connor McDavid's teammate and I saw

that that's what he signed, I'm running through a brick wall every night. And I'm saying, this guy's making a sacrifice. Now I got to make my sacrifice. I'm getting paid probably what I deserve. He is not. He's taking a pay cut so that we can win. Let's go do it. So I think it's a, you know, a charismatic thing to do.

as what a leader should do. I don't think he has anything to prove to anyone as someone that went against him. I think he's the best player in the world, and he clearly wants to win a cup. Yes, he does. He needs to, doesn't he? We'll talk about that later.

Ladies and gentlemen, new ESPN, NHL analyst, Stanley Cup champion, American hero. T.J. O'Shee, we appreciate you. He's got the whole... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Talk about stepping up.

It's time to level up your game. Introducing the all-new ESPN app. All of ESPN, all in one place. Your home for the most live sports and the best championship moments. The electricity is palpable. Step up your game with no annual contract required. It's the ultimate fan experience.

Level up for more on the ESPN app or at stream.esPN.com. Sign up now. Eight years ago, I blew my football career. He dropped it at the one-yard work. Chad Powers has a run. on Hulu. If I can't play as Russ, I'll play as someone else. My name's, Chad. And last name?

He did. From executive producers, Eli and Peyton Manning. Remember, you're wearing a prosthetic mask? This is acting. And starring Glenn Powell. He thinks you're a rubber chute-telling. Not rubber. My man. Made a fish. The Hulu original series, Chad Powers, is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms Apply. New episodes Tuesdays.

That's 47-year football coach, B.A. with an incredible cadence right there. What's it sound like? You got to go deep, baby. Yeah, okay. How many years have you been doing that, you think? Since I was nine. And I just turned 73 a couple days ago. Happy birthday!

You had a birthday game, too, you know, obviously. How did you play golf day of your birthday? I sure did. How'd you shoot? I had a good day. We went down to Florida. Dave Moss put on a great event for a lot of good charities down there, and we had a great time. Were you playing Scramble?

You weren't playing your own ball? We played our own ball one day. We played Scramble the Knicks. What did you shoot? You shoot your birthday or your age? No, I shot 82. I was a little tough on those greens down there, but we made every, we were 15 under in the scramble and came in fourth. Yeah, somebody's cheating.

Oh, no, these guys are really good. Okay. Okay. I didn't know. That talks at tables here at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, Florida Panthers, back-to-back, standing the cup, champ. Super fan, ladies of the gentleman, Derrish tape all their show. Yeah, G-Butt.

And joining us now live from Manatekin, Ohio, ladies and gentlemen. He is a college football national champion and Super Bowl champion, a Rotter Cup winner, ladies of gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. Hocker, Jags, huge, you felt it? You like the Jags plus three and a half. You like the over as well. The Jacksonville Jaguars get a huge win against Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night Football down there at home.

Maybe igniting an entire fan base to believe in what Liam Cohen and Stoner are doing down there even more. Primetime television, our first chance, really, to see Trevor Lawrence and Travis Hunter do their thing. Brian Thomas Jr., obviously, with a huge catch here. What are your thoughts on what you saw last night? And is the Chiefs still the Chiefs, or what's going on, A.J. Hawk? I mean, I think the Chiefs can still become the Chiefs of who we know. I think the Jags are legit, though.

I've got to give credit first to Devin Lloyd. Are you kidding me that 99-yard pick six was just unbelievable. The fact that he's able to convert that for the score is huge. and what a great play, getting lost in line coming off the center turn, bam, here we go. Like, what a beautiful situation. And DeBott, you mentioned it in the earlier, right, who got this block at the end?

Who was it? Hines Allen. Yeah, like just a little bit right there. That's all he needed to get him in the end zone, which is a huge deal, because who knows what happens if you give the offense the ball there in the two or three yarn line. So this was awesome. Also, give Travis Hunter the ball in space as much as you possibly can.

Yeah, let's get a couple of these. Let's get a couple of these. He majored in defense at Colorado. had a package of offense. So obviously, he did some meeting and practice on the offensive side, but he was primarily a DB, which we watched. He was unbelievable, drifting out of coverage, making plays out of his zone, doing all the stuff that he did defensively.

But on the offensive side, them having a couple plays for him to take advantage of his athleticism and his burst. I mean, he's doing Tyree Kill type shit. That's Tyree Kill type and stuff like this. Like when a guy is a yard away from you and you would not have been tackled in flag football, that is like Tyree Kill type stuff. Travis Hunter has that capability. And obviously on defense, we talked about it with Liam Cohen and obviously the start to show.

He's locked up on Travis Kelsey on a third down. I mean, they obviously have a lot of faith. So he's majoring in offense while learning the defense. And they said they have no real, let's see how it goes, basically is how they're doing it. No minute wasted throughout the day for meetings or individual drills or practice or whatever. How do you feel about it, AJ, now that we're five weeks into this and they're four and one. This team's four in one right now down in Jacksonville. Yeah, Jacksonville is, I mean, they're letting us know that they should, they feel like they're a legit contender.

With Travis Hunter, I guess I understand them feeling it out, but the guy is so special when the ball is in the year. I love watching him on offense. I love what he's doing on defense as well. But you see that play when they motion him out of the backfield, and they're sitting there like anytime a team wants to play his own. Let's say they want to drop to the sticks, to the first down mark, keep their eyes on the quarterback and, you know, they'll let you throw the ball two, three yards, and they're going to break and make the tackle get off the field. Like, you're not with Travis Hunter. That's the thing. like and I think too future the more times he gets the ball and he shows this it kind of like

it'll slow you down as a defense too sometimes like hey man like I know if I'm the if I'm the curl flat dropper there right there and I'm saying hey buddy I need some help inside like I'll be outside I'll try not to let him get back outside me but I need you guys running inside out I'm going to need some help here so I think kind of will slow the defense down as well when they're trying to attack him now he's I don't want to add more but if he was to be a returner he'd be unbelievable. I mean, he's special. There's been a couple guys where it's like, can he do his college shit in the

NFL? Like Caleb Williams, I think. It was like, well, Caleb be able to do the college stuff that he was able to do in the NFL when everybody is running 4-4-4-3-4-2. You got all the All-Star. Travis Hunter's able to outrun NFL guys now. So we're understanding that he is going to be able to athletically exceed most people

that he's on a field with, which was a question. Like, hey, he was a Colorado. Is he big fish, great athlete in small pond? Now we're seeing it at the biggest stage. Is that a proper statement to describe how Travis Hunter is playing right now, B.A.? Yeah, I think, you know, Dion was the first. I had Patrick Peterson, who we put on offense and could run routes as good as anybody at great hands. And did it a little bit for us because we didn't have enough speed.

And what I see him doing is just amazing. Have you ever had a player where it was a package on defense as opposed to a package on offense? I think it's much more normal for a DB to have a package on offense. as opposed to a wide receiver have a package on defense. Julian Edelman? Yeah, and even then, he wasn't really playing offense. He was more so like, hey, let's find a spot for this guy. Special teams in safety, but he was listed as a wide receiver.

Then once he became wide receiver, it was like, okay, he's not playing on the defensive side. Very rare that you see the major in offense and then package on defense. Feels like that's what they're doing right now, but who knows what they do in the future whenever he understands everything? How do you think they're viewing it after talking to Liam Cohen? Yeah, I think for offensive guys tackling has a bit. big problem on defense. Contact. Yeah.

And going down and running somebody down, but I think Liam's doing a great job with it. They're letting him grow into it instead of force feeding him. Just how much can you handle mentally? Because there's so much, when you talk about all that meeting time offensively, you're talking about five or six plays now. You're talking about maybe 100 plays on offense, maybe eight or nine coverages, plus your red zone packages, all your special situational stuff. This kid's got to be really, really smart.

Yeah, and nobody talks about that because, you know, jocks are stupid. Docs are stupid. Football players are stupid. It's like I, punter, had the best playbook. Long Snapper probably had the best playbook. Legit. I think Long Snapper had the best one. Venetary had a pretty easy one, too. Just kind of, just got to do that one. Make it. Yeah. So punt and kickoff, I had like seven different options to pull from, you know, right, left, middle. Well, add onside. Let's go. Yeah, you got on side. Yeah, on side, right, left, middle. Okay. You got your past plays, you got your... Oh, yeah, we got a couple of things, maybe put in there for the week of.

But then we're done. You know, that is... I pretty much got that thing mastered. Maybe first day of looking at it, you know? Maybe first day on the job. You guys, what you like... And AJ will always say, I don't need to hear numbers. I just tell me what I...

That whole thing. The amount of intricacies in it all. That's why it's not as easy to pick up a rugby player and throw them in or anybody that plays another sport that's contact sport. Like, hey, you can put them in there. The checks, the now. things, it feels like his football IQ is good and great. I would say elite at this level. It's like the books now, like the book studying is what everybody has to catch up in the NFL

level. Is that kind of normal for DB's wide receivers? Is that the separator between NFL and college? Obviously, got to be an elite athlete to play these positions, but the difference is all in between the years. That's the separator every level you go up. So little league, all right, you're the best guy on the field, you play both ways, never come out of the field. Then you go up to high school. Okay, are you still that good? Some guys, do. A lot of guys do still play both ways. Then you go to big time college ball. And it's like, oh, shit, everybody is Mr. Ohio, Mr. New Jersey, Mr. Florida. So everybody's good now. So now it's about how many advantages can you get. How many things can you anticipate? How do you

communicate? How do you learn? How do you adjust? How do you respond? How do you work in the offseason? All those different things. And then once you get to the pro level, it's the same thing. Because we always see it. Guys getting drafted, you know, top five, top 10, first round, second round, a lot of it's based on their physical gifts and what they can be. But once you get to the next level, we saw it a little bit with Travis Hunter early. As good as he was, you can almost tell when he wasn't completely comfortable with the plays or didn't necessarily know where he was lined up or didn't know, okay, should I be at 12 or 14 yards to this route?

And all those things matter on this level. So after listening to Liam talking, how his time is spent, you almost have to be like a football savant at this point. Like spatial awareness on both sides of the field, you've got to be able to communicate. and be on the same page with everyone. I love the fact, Liam said a couple weeks ago in the press conference, I think one of the receivers got hurt, and they asked him, okay, are you going to put more X, more Z?

And he's like, no, he's playing F. Like, that's his position on offense. So that's good for him to know, regardless of the game playing, this is my position I need to learn. And I'm sure it's similar on the defense's side of the ball. But for him to be able to do this physically, mentally, we know the athlete that he is. Like some of those things, like his ball skills,

you knew that would translate. Like, we saw it on every level. his ball skills were unique. The speed, we just saw him running stride for stride with Xavier Worthy, the fastest guy we ever seen come through the combine. So all the physical things he got it, it's just about mentally, and then physically, can he basically stay upright, regardless of what position you're playing? You had, how many surgeries at punter?

Four. It's a tough, long season, so that'll probably be his biggest challenge. Just knees, knees, knees for me. And boy, you know what, it is. I hope science figures out the knees. AJ does as well. We were both limpers after long walking because we have no cartilage in there. It's supposed to make life a little bit easier.

Here's some stats for Travis Hunter last night. Talk about being in shape. I believe Hembo sent these over. 35 offensive snaps. He had 19 in the slot, 14 outside and one tight end. 19 routes, three receptions on three targets, 64 yards, including a 17 yards after catch, which we saw electrify. 25, defensive snaps all outside corner.

He traveled 1,500 8.5 yards per NFL next-gen stats, only player with $1,500 plus in multiple games this season. So he's obviously continuing the trend from what he did at Colorado. Colorado was like 110 plays a game or something like that. And it was just, it was average. It was outrageous. And everybody was like, can you do that in an NFL season? It's like, well, they're starting right now, and they're just at the beginning of this.

So let's go to one of our favorite segments of the week. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for BS or no BS with BA. And the first one here is about Travis Hunter. Ladies and gentlemen, BS or no BS is when BA gives us whether or not a statement of fact is bullshit or no bullshit. Let's get to the first one here. It's about Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter should play both ways. No question asked.

Now, there's certainly somebody that said this somewhere. So we didn't want to give the proper credit to the quote because it's certainly coming from somewhere. Travis Hunter should play both ways. No questions asked. Is that BS or no BS at this point, BA? That is definitely no bullshit. Okay. It's just how much more can he play?

Tell me? Just don't overload him because if you're thinking in the national football leg, you're playing too slow. Yep. All right. If you've got to think, you're losing. So keep it really simple for him where he can just use all that God-given talent and play so fast. Okay, so you're thinking that's no BS. Debuts, do you agree at this point, too, after what you were saying yesterday?

Yesterday, I didn't agree. Today, after watched him in prime time, it's like, yeah, you get him on the field as much as he can handle. He is an ultimate chess piece that we haven't seen. and let him do what the hell he wants to do. AJ, final thoughts on this being no BS. We're letting him do. Are we going to change this answer in four or five weeks as the season continues? Or is just in the moment answer, AJ?

No, I agree this is no BS because I like what Deepak said, Liam, saying he has a position on offense. He knows, like, this is your role. You study this. You know, first you earn this inside out, and then you will slowly start to learn what everybody else around you is doing. B.A., how difficult do you think it is for Liam, though, as you being an offensive guy, like knowing, hey, he can help us out on both sides of the ball, but, like, I want him on offense for the majority of the game because we've seen it early. There are only a handful of guys in the NFL who are legitimate threats to score every time they touch the ball,

and he's one of them. So how difficult is that in the back of your head when you are an offensive guy? It's like, well, you know what, maybe let's not send him out there on defense this possession because I want him fresh on offense. Yeah, the kid is in such fabulous shape. You know, I don't think stamina is a problem. He's obviously shown that at Colorado. He played like 150 plays at one game.

Yes. And so it's more mental. And as long as he doesn't slow down mentally, I'm using him as much as I possibly can. Keep him at one, because don't ask him to learn all three wide receiver positions. That's two other guys' jobs. You learn your job on offense. And like Liam said, running routes, but reading coverage,

when you start adjusting routes, in college you don't adjust that much. Either take the middle or you break in. It's that simple. he's learning so much how to run routes and be effective at it and like you said earlier get the damn thing to him

quick and let him run with it and the more he knows the better he knows it the more confident he is which goes back to what D-Bud's talking but yeah he's playing faster he feels like he's not lining up he's not asking people where to go

so I think he probably wants to learn this as much as possible but it only happens as it happens you know and his vibes always being immaculate through all this he's a good one Travis is a good one bro before we get to the next BS

or no BS there's a breaking news in the AFC North What? The Bengals. Oh, no. After getting their asses absolutely smacked the last couple weeks without Joe Flacco. I'm sorry, without Joe Burrow, are trading for the other Joe Cool. Oh, no.

Joe Flacco. Rapsheet and Tom Pelliserra were on it. They go from Cool Joe to the coolest Joe. They go from Borough with an EAU X to Flacco with a John X. accent. Ty Schmidt, you are seemingly flabbergasted by this move? Why are you reacting the way that you were reacting? Because the fucking

Packers played the Bengals this week. Joe Flacko just beat him a couple weeks ago with the Browns. He's going to come back in, fucking beat him again. Joe Flacko's going to beat the Packers. I was really looking forward to, you know, getting a bite out of the Jake Browning apple.

It was fun? So we're on those D-Bs for the Packers. Yeah. Now we got Joe Flacco comes back to time. So on that note, Mike Tomlin said this about the Pittsburgh Steelers

a couple years ago when Anthony Richardson was playing and Joe Flacco was the backup. Mike Tomlin told the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense, we do not hurt Anthony Ricketts. We do not want that six-foot-six thing walking onto this field

and playing against us. Now, inevitably, Joe Flacco did make an appearance in that particular game. game. I think people that have been around ball respect Joe Flacco, okay? So I think that's why Ty right there goes, oh no, Joe Flacco can do it.

Jake Browning, Apple. And he's got Jamar Chase, yeah, I wanted all the kids. Jamar Chase still there? Yeah, T. Higgins is healthy. Joe Flacko can still... He's going to come in, he said, I beat these guys a couple weeks ago. I know exactly what we got to do. He might be calling the points?

Yeah, he probably is. AJ, how is Ohio going to react to the Flacco move from one part of state to the other? I think Ohio people are going to be very happy about this. I live in Bengals country pretty much. There's definitely Browns fans as well, but a lot of people have to say, James, Andy Dalton, somebody.

Like, they've got to bring somebody in here to Cincinnati. I feel like Flacco. Maybe I did overlook him at first, but maybe he is the answer. He'll get the ball to those superstars, though. I promise you that he'll push the ball to them. Is he the ruler of the jungle this week, too? Please, no. If he is, then Packers might as well not even fucking play.

I mean, this is just bad news It's just bad as not what I needed today Do you think Just in the history of sports media Do you think That the way ESPN Because our show is currently on ESPN Would react to a starting quarterback trade

Within a division We'll go the way we just did it right there Do you think there would 39-year-old quarterback who's playing backup? Oh no, he's going to beat the Packers twice Backer's the best of your football week did That's got to be one of the stats, guys. Has anybody started for two different teams and beat the same team in the same year?

Yeah, we'll see you Sunday, Coach. It'll be the first time and the last time it's ever happened. Okay, let's talk about this, actually, because I think there is a BS or no BS about the age of quarterback. So let's get to the age of quarterbacks one, because Joe Flack, obviously 39 years old, still playing. And then these guys that are getting, like, their mid-prime resurgencees, is because the conversation is basically maybe there aren't enough talented young quarterbacks in the NFL.

So that statement has been made on a plenty of occasion, which is why these guys get a second shot at it. There aren't enough talented young QBs in the NFL. Quarterback Whisper B.A. Is that BS? Or is that no BS? Now, these total bullshit.

Oh, really? Would you look at the kids, I call them kids, 26 and under? This is the future of the league, and the league is in great hands. I mean, just look at what they're doing, Drake, May, Caleb, Jaden Daniels, on and on. There's like 809 of them, and it is Jordan loved. I mean, every team is in good hands with these young guys,

and I think it's just bright, bright future, especially for offensive football. So these guys like Joe Flacco are still getting opportunities, or maybe these older quarterbacks that are getting ops, that's always the way it's been around the league, or are we just putting more spotlight on now? Like Joe Flacco getting another opportunity to be a starting quarterback, that's not an indictment on the other options. that are out there at a younger age.

It's just Joe Flacko's a guy that can still play good ball somewhere. Yeah, I mean, Jake Browning, he's had some really good games for the Bengals, and I think he just had some really shitty ones lately, and they had enough. So they turned the door number two, and there's Joe. It's like, I would have guessed James or somebody else, too, but I'm excited to see Joe throw to those guys. Yes. I mean, the speed, and he's still one of the best deep ball throwers in the league.

I think Zach Taylor's probably pretty pumped up about it as well. he's about sick and tired of watching Jake Brown and sit on the sideline after his third interception. And Zach Taylor's thinking to himself. Everybody thinks I'm a big, dumb, dip shit. You think Zach Taylor's punk? About Joe Flocka? You think he's pumped, by it.

Did you see the way Packers fans just reacted, D-But? I'm just asking the question. What do you think? What do you think? I mean, I like Joe. I love Joe. Former Colt. Is that right?

Footstep. He did some good things for us. And I guess this is a situation where I guess you know what you're going to get. know you expect Joe Burr to come back maybe at the end of the year. Maybe some people expect the other Browns quarterback. Shador Sanders may be, but you don't know what you're going to get. It's a rookie. At least you can see what you got there.

Maybe even Russ. So this is a head scratcher, but we'll see. Tie obviously feels a certain way about it, so maybe I'm wrong. And maybe we do get the new QB bump, at least for this week. But we know the conversation we're going to be having in about two weeks. Somebody just dropped into my ear with a Yenzer accent. hammered. Don, Todd. AP Tony,

AFC North cooking, big quarterback shuffle in the AFC North tone. This sucks and D-Buts is right. He's eventually going to be right. But I had the same reaction that Ty had because I don't think Joe's going to play this week. I don't think you get traded on a Tuesday and play on Sunday against the Packers.

I think you get traded on Tuesday. You learn the offense for a week and then you beat the Steelers on Thursday night football at home. Like that's the quarterback bump game. That's the game you win. Okay? And then you go off and you suck the rest of the season. So I think Ty's okay. I think the Steelers are screwed. So this is how our show is reacting to Joe Flacco getting traded, by the way.

A sixth rounder and a fifth rounder are getting flopped in the trade as well. There's a little bit more details. We got Ty from the Packers going, oh, no, Flacco's about to beat us. And then you got the Steelers next week going, he's not actually. He's going to beat us. I mean, there is. There's fear around the NFL with Joe Flacco getting traded. and hey maybe he does another magical mid-season run with a team to the playoffs con man yeah exactly no matter what you know whether they're winning or losing we know t higgins and jemar chase are about to have some 80-yard touchdown opportunities a ball going through the air the whole time but kind of awesome for the browns like if you look at that young quarterback's you know conversation all of a sudden dylan gabriel and shador sanders you got to think cleveland feels great about both of them if they're comfortable moving on from flaco dill and gabriel i believe played you know turnover free

football in his first game and his first game happened to be he looked apart he did yeah he really like it was a hell of a defense i mean and the size obviously was talked about because it had to be talked about because it was one of the only things that was like a big time knock because if he looked at any his college tape against damn near everybody he is very efficient in a very accurate quarterback i think people talk about his leadership and how people like him so like the only knock was hey he's 5-11 we got to talk about that because most of these quarterbacks big tall guys it's not easy he looked very comfortable as an NFL quarterback and he was spinning it all over the place do you think Cleveland with this move is saying we're comfortable

with what we have here and we're going to continue to develop I don't think there's any doubt about it yeah they really like what they saw and they obviously feel like Shador's ready to go too that's fascinating Kenny Pickett out of town right Joe Flacco out of time now it's just the two rookies basically in that quarterback room that we've chat chatted about since the off season didn't a lot of people say hey this out's going to go I'm sure Dan Orlovsky's taking a full If you were going to trade both guys, why aren't we starting the rookies? I don't even know if he's allowed to tweet that. He'll probably post a timestamp from NFL Live.

And when he said, hey, listen, I'm not allowed to tweet this. I could certainly go make something happen to be able to tweet this, but I'm just going to sit here and be told no and just not do anything about it. But he basically said, if we're inevitably going to get to the rookies, why are we even doing the song and dance? I think they thought they were going to win with Flacko. Like I think they thought that they were going to be able to do what they did a few years ago, have success, and then there will be some perfect time to hand it over to a rookie,

whichever one. Now, they like Dylan Gabriel more. They drafted him in the third round as opposed to the fifth round. I think that was their envision. That was what they were hoping for. They obviously get to Dylan Gabriel at the time they get to him. He looks the part, and then they decide to pull the trigger and move on. How do you think it goes in that building?

What do you think the thoughts are over there? Because the defense. You can win with that defense. Every week. Every week. Every week. In the playoffs, too. Yeah.

Every week in the regular season and every week in the playoffs, you can win. win with that defense. So the offense just needs to be in Stefansky, what, offense a guru? So he's at the point now where both these rookies, he thinks he's going to be able to win with. I think that's a good thing for the Cleveland Browns. And then Deshaun Watson, I don't know who mentioned it earlier in the week, but he will be healthy at some point during this season, so we'll see what happens there. He's still, you know, fairly young. We'll see what happens when he's healthy. But yeah, you got to feel pretty confident about Dylan Gabriel, number one, because this team, if you can go out there

and score, let's say 21, 24 points a game, you got a chance to win every week with this defense and how they play ball on that side of it. And then you got to be comfortable with Chador, his progression and where he is to be able, because when you have a backup, you got to be ready for this, got to go in and play and drive the ship as well. So I'm interested to see how this goes. Everybody kind of saw it playing out this way, start the season with the vet, Flacco, move on to the rookies because next year they have the multiple first round picks that they

can possibly move up and draft the quarterback as well. depending on how things shake out with the guy that has $230 million guaranteed. So this would be interesting. But this is, you know, Cleveland, being Cleveland. On that note, I think that guy got the $230 million flu when it comes to on-field stuff. I'm not getting into off-field stuff. On-field stuff feels like that guy's trying not to ruin life, you know, because he has the biggest bag in the history of the NFL.

That whole thing did not work at all, which has put them into the position that they're currently in. And not to be forgotten in the entire story, Bailey, zip on the ball, Zappi, also on the Cleveland Browns. Oh, here we go. Oh, man. Yeah? They got talent over there. They feel real good, though.

They got talent over there. I just wish that defense would have showed up in the last three minutes. Yeah? You're talking about Carson Wentz? Yeah. You don't think Carson Wentz just figured them out. It took them 57 minutes maybe to figure out what was going on the defensive side. What's the laugh?

What's the laugh? We're paying these defensive line with a lot of money. They need to, Carson Wentz need to be on his ass. That's hilarious. We talked about him talking about Gannon earlier. Mm-hmm. You heard him just old school right there, too. These guys getting how much money?

Can't make a fucking, what are we paying you for? Fifth overall pick? What are you even here for? We got a rookie quarterback who's got the lead. And we can't close the game. But this defense? How do you feel about the Browns? I mean, the AFC North as a whole has become...

I want to see that defense be dominant. When they are dominant, I think they can win them with a rookie quarterback because they've got a hell of a running back. They've got enough talent around them, good offensive lines, so yeah. But that defense has got to be dominant. Stephansky, how do you guys view them? I don't know how he's kept his job this long. That's exactly.

Most coaches view that way. But I think the reason why he's kept his job this long is because I think there's alleged kind of understanding. Haslam's the one that made the deal. Because remember, the Cleveland Browns were out of the running. It was going to be Atlanta or New Orleans. He was going to get traded to. And then all of a sudden, out of the clouds, if the story goes the way we've been kind of told it or followed, they came in with the $230 million guarantee.

Hey, here's this, the biggest offer fully guaranteed. would do this and then all of a sudden wait a minute we will go to cleveland if that's what's happening he ends up at cleveland so i think a lot of people in the media have just said well that ownership decision has kind of slowed down Andrew barry and stefansky's ability to develop team and coach team now they've moved on from baker obviously baker's had the success that he's had and everything like that but i think everybody in the media's eyes just kind of give him a pass because the ownership decided to tie up the largest percentage in the history of a salary cap and kind of hamstring the entire

team. Coaches, though, do they see it that way? Or is this? I know. Coach is all about winning, man. It's all wins and losses. You can be the nicest guy in the world. You're going out the door. But I think maybe they see that continuity does matter because they went through so many

people so fast in the Browns history that they are trying to copy the Steelers a little bit and let's, hey, let's keep our guys, let's keep our coaches, let's keep some continuity and we'll put it together. All right, let's go to and stay in the AFC North with another BS or no BSBA. Somebody said it, and it was a lot of people.

The Ravens are in a lot of trouble. Okay, that's just the quote. Is that BS or no BSBA? That's no BS. I just can't imagine the Ravens giving up 44 points at home. I mean, having gone through the dog fights that we've had in that stadium, it's embarrassing. It really is for that defense to play like that.

But I don't think, I still think Baltimore is going to make the playoffs. Hold on. So there's still the odds on favor to winning AFC North right now. Well, they got the Rams. If they've pulled this one out with all the injuries, they do have a ton of injuries now. They can pull off one at home against the Rams. They get the by week.

They get guys back, and then they hit their end division schedule, which isn't that hard on paper. So I think they can still pull it up. You got hope for the Ravens still? I really do, yeah. The defense has been a massive question mark, not just this season last year, too, the first 10 weeks, I believe.

Defense was a massive question mark. Then they were able to figure it out. What are they not doing? just everything, because we watch some of the low lights, and it's like, wow, this team sucks. They're playing defense like a team that stinks. Like, they don't look like the Baltimore Rivens at all, to your point. They can't stop the run. Obviously, they miss Bedoukman. Matabee. Matabike. And that's a huge loss. But then Marlins out, Hamilton's out, and say, okay, now they're throwing it on us too. I mean, they're all out. So hopefully

they get them all back. He's got a terrible stat here, yeah, because he's doing his podcast. Yeah. He can't act. I just can't do. But he was bummed out, which I appreciate. Hembo's center or a stat that people are not going to want to hear. Hey, butta, close your ears and eyes. You too, Stavi. Ravens' defense, how bad is it? Hembo's writing this entire thing. We did not edit any of this. Josh Allen this season, MVP,

betting favorite currently. 1,217 pass yards, 9 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, 8 sacks, 72.1 QBR. Taking on the Ravens this year. 1,312 yards, 13 touchdowns, 1 interceptions, 6 sacks, 73.2 QBR. You play like an MVP. Literally, the betting favorite MVP is what they're

average and giving up. Okay? So if you played the Ravens every single week and you were a quarterback, odds on betting favorite right now, you would be to win the MVP. That's not good. No, it's not. That's not Baltimore. Terrible. That's not Baltimore. Yeah, there's a crazy stat actually with it not being Baltimore. I saw it just on the internet earlier in 2000 when it was, you know, Baltimore, Ray Lewis. Oh, you did? Yeah. Oh, okay. Not going to go ahead. But they gave up like 140 points in that season and threw five weeks the Ravens have given up like a hundred and seventy two points yeah there it is jeez louis that's absurd there's a lot of those stats happening for uh yeah it's early

in a season that's insane yeah it's not and i think that's why baltimore ravens fans have just they've like almost comically given up because they're like what is this yeah you know like i think they're kind of blindsided almost like chris jones was i'm not i think chris jones was just what the he thought he was down he thought he was down i think Now, when that guy's running by him and he just kind of, like, watching him, that's not a good look at all. But I do think Chris Jones was kind of hypnotized by the whole thing. Like, what is it? The guy just fell twice.

I saw him fall two times. He's getting crushed for good reason. And I assume Chris Jones feels terrible. If he was to talk about it after watching the film, he would probably say this is disgusting. But it's not a good look. It's certainly not a good look. Every D-Lyman, you've been around. You've been around some great ones, Hall of Famers.

When you see a quarterback on the ground. what the dive steal that one steal one just get a touch you want a sack a half a sack so it's no excuse for this and chris jones is obviously a great player he's been a great player for a long long time uh i haven't seen this this is the i remember the first was it the first week when they played the chargers and he went inside and Herbert broke the edge and basically sealed the game slot and you saw drew tranquil i believe kind of going after him and i don't know what exactly that conversation was and even earlier in this game down the stretch he did the same inside move and Trevor Lawrence scrambled to the outside.

So I would assume that Spaggs is probably having some tough conversations in front of the unit, knowing him and how he operates, probably Andy Reed the same way, because you go as that guy goes on the defensive side of the ball and it's been that way for a long time.

He's been a game record for a long time down there. We have another move, another signing. We were just talking about this defense. CJGJ will be joining the Baltimore Ravens' day. Here we go. Congratulations to CJJ. You sent the Houston Texans early in the year. Gets cut.

We hear nothing about it. we thought we'd hear a story, nothing really came out, just kind of CJGJ's gone now. He was just playing. He was a starter for him. Now he's gone. Well, what happened? He talked shit to Baker, pissed him off, and then they came back at once, so he cut him.

I don't like it so good. Okay. Well, didn't you know that was going to happen when you were signing C.J.? In a scouting report, did it not say, hey, CJJ, GJ, going to stir it up a little bit? Is that good for Baltimore? I mean, we're talking about Baltimore.

They might need that personality. Legit. Bring low swagger in there, bring a little shit talk, and let's get back to Ravens football. AJ, how do you feel, but I see you nod and yes along with this story? Yeah. I mean, like you said, there's no financial impact. He's getting paid by the Texans.

They've got to do something to wake him up. You got to do something to get some kind of juice, bring some kind of energy. And we know, CJ, G.J., he's not going to go in there and just be a, what do you call it, like, whatever, a wallflower and hang out. He's going to go out there and let his presence be known. So maybe that's what they need back there. So the Jacksonville Jaguars, you know, may Chris Jones quit. Okay, because they're relentless. They're four and one.

They're tied for a lead in the AFC. Houston Texans move on from CJ, G.J., blow out two teams in a row. Okay, Houston, Texas, all of a sudden, juggernaut yet again. Tennessee Titans don't look now. They just cause another team to have the worst loss in the history. Yeah, sports is what people are saying, including a doopty-duty, woo-ty-wooty,

kicking of a ball, touchdown. That's out of a movie, you know, that doesn't normally happen. Player dropping a ball. I might call as a coach Punch the guy And he did And now they're going to talk about it And then you talk about the last team

In the AFC South The final BS or no BS This is coming from the greatest division In all of the NFL right now Colts are the best team in the NFL Is that BS or no BS BA? That is no BS When you look at Port-Jet Press 4

Plus 74 I mean they're one player Away from 5-0 Yeah Gross then the difference would they be higher. I mean, Detroit is close. They're a plus 62.

And that would be a great game right now. Detroit, indeed. It'd be a hell of a game right now. Maybe it'll happen later in the year. Well, I like the fact that you're saying the Colts are the best team in the NFL. It seems like a lot more people are coming around to this conversation. Because all of a sudden, we're after week five, we have no more undefeated.

We only have teams that have one blemish on them. Oh, how many of them? Oh, three in the entire AFC. Remember how packed out the AFC is? Remember how great every team is going into the season? The Colts have no chance. What are we talking about? They're fans.

I don't know if they're fans, actually. The people that are active representing the Colts on the internet did an athletic poll. 94% negative optimism coming into the season. They got Danny Dimes starting their next guy sucks, has sucked, always will suck. And all of a sudden, what we got? We got a big, strong, fast team. Like our team is big, our team is strong, and our team is fast. That is just, that moves, that travels, that wins games, and we got a quarterback that

and make the throw that is going to have to make the throw. He doesn't have bad balls. Like you watch him play the game. We're there watching every single snap, literally. Tyler Warren, obviously an incredible weapon, always in his eyesight, always in his vision, which is good. But every throw that he makes is a good throw. And it's like even his incompletions are either good decisions or good throwaways or, you know, in an area that could have definitely been caught. It was just dropped. He's not like missing guys. There's not a bad decision coming. It's like everything he's doing is right at the position that we need. it to be, but it's not just him. He has ignited everybody else and elevated everything else that we

have. The coach are in a good position. I think we can win playoff games, too, with the way we're built right now. Oh, there's no doubt. Just got to stay healthy. I mean, that's a big thing for all these teams right now. It's just October. There's a long way to go and staying healthy is that offensive line. If they can keep them together, Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones is going to be really good. I like that. Indiana Jones, obviously, an absolute dog. AJ, your thoughts on this coach team because you've even come around, which he was not about for a long time. AJ used to laugh at the Colts.

Every week, Colts would be getting five. I think I wasn't the only one. I was not the only one. There's been some times when things weren't as great. Chris Bowers got to be feeling pretty good right now, doesn't he? I mean, people were killing him last year. We know that, but I'm with you. And it starts up front, like, B.A. mentioned it.

Watch a lot of those highlights and clips. Like, he's throwing from a nice, clean pocket usually. And if he does get flushed, we know that he is athletic enough to move around and keep his eyes down field and find these great targets, like having Tyler Lauren. I mean, come on now. That guy is such a freak. But you're right, Pat, it builds everyone else. Everyone else around them up. Like, imagine some of those guys that have been there for a little while on offense thinking like, wow, I can really put up some numbers. We can be an explosive offense and they've truly shown that through what, five weeks now. Quentin Nelson

has to be so happy. You know, those offense alignment that have been through it here, been through it. Yes. Big time. Being through a lot. Hey, go out there hand-to-hand combat. Run your face into somebody for who? New quarterback. Okay, does that guy even know the place? No, but you got a... Is this what my NFL career is going to be? Like, Quentin Nelson drafted, top ten as a guard.

And all it has been is just like a turnover of quarterbacks, new system, new quarterback, new bummer, new disappointment, new loss, new way of doing it. And then all of a sudden now, he is a vocal leader on the team, and they've got a quarterback that can do everything that Shane Stiking wants to do. It's fun to watch. And then on the defensive side of the ball, Lou Anirumo, I got to talk to Carly Orsay. I think I talked about this yesterday a good bit but she's like, I chart the play

calls for offense and defense. What she does just to catch a rhythm, try to learn what it is, see what's going on because she's going to have to hire people she said going forward so I'd like to know what the hell is going on as opposed to not knowing what's going on. And she's like, lose defense. There's a lot more, like there's a lot more options for the players. You can't

just do that with any group, right? Like we talked to Steve Spagnolo a couple years ago whenever they're going through the Super Bowl run and defense was carrying him. He's a defense coordinator for the chiefs. He's a goat. He'll be in a Hall of Fame. All three coordinators for the Chiefs will go into Hall of Fame, defense coordinator, certainly would do that. And he said, normally you have like one or two guys that are kind of like,

I guess on the defense side, middle lineback or a quarterback on the field. He said all 11 guys are like very high football IQ guys. So they can do a lot more. You can make a lot more checks. You can change, I think, coverages on the fly. You can change fronts. I think Lou Anarumo expects our guys to do that as soon as he got here. And we've invested in the pieces on the defensive side.

So Danny Dime's a big storyline on the offense. Lou Anirumo coming in the defense and the money we put in seems like we got the right guys over there too. What is Lou's defense like? And what does it mean whenever they say the ad checks and shit like that whenever you're an offensive coordinator looking at that type of defense? Yeah, they're very sound. I mean, and it's like DeBotts always says,

11 playing together. They're 11 playing together, but they added some good leadership. Bynum, some of those guys. Great pickups for Chris Ballard. Just class guys who are extremely bright guys, but can still play the game. They're fun to watch. What does that mean whenever they talk about the added elements of that shit?

The biggest advantage when having smart players that communicate is because as a defensive play caller, the only thing you have available to you is, you know, the personnel that's in the huddle, you know where the ball is on the field, and then the field position. So your players, once that come out, once you get a formation, now the players, that's when the pros start to make those adjustments. Hey, alert, 11, you know, that may be the gadget guy, a reverse guy. This is the speed guy. I, hey, speed at three, and then you adjust whatever call is sent in by that defense. So you become an extension of that defensive coordinator, and you can almost massage that coverage or that play call.

I'm sure AJ had to do this a ton to put your players in a better situation. So let's say we got a slot blitz on for me. I'm a nickel blitz, but now we got Tyreek Hill in the position that's going to put, you know, AJ in a position to cover Tyree. I'll look at AJ. He'll look at me. You know what I'm taking that blitz from you, D, but. Exactly, exactly. Or he'll be the, hey, deba-de-bye, you know, and that'll just be an automatic switch, and we're not thinking. If it's young players or maybe players that just kind of don't have it, then you kind of just start, hey, the coach called it, we're just going to play it.

So that's when players can kind of bail their coaches out in a sense. Like, the coach is making a good call, but now as a player, it's our job to be pros as well to find better answers because we got more information. So that's the biggest advantage, biggest difference. That's why Belichick was so good so many years, and he has certain staples of those defense. whether it was Wilford, whether it was McCordy, Chung, like those guys, obviously, Brucey, Mayo, to make those extra communications post-breaking the huddle that kind of put you in, like, advantageous situations as a defender.

AJ, so those play calls, you've been through a couple different defense coordinators at the NFL level and obviously the game change as well. Is he adding checks to you whenever he's handling those in there? And is that the similar to what the offense is doing as well? Like, what are you hearing? We heard Chase Daniel. He did. There's a lot of info he was given. A lot of info coming in a lot of time.

I've never had that helmet, so I have no idea what's happening. My defense helmet never really had that much. Yeah. But it was defense. It's different. Yeah, but you're making obviously close, right, close left. That's happening. And then all the other little discussions or decisions that are being made,

it comes from a high football IQ group, or is it a lot of, like, install that this is happening? It's all of it. It's all the walkthroughs. I think when young players realize early on, like, they'll just, Sometimes people view walk-through and stuff as like a punishment. Oh, I got to get through this. Like, no, man, we're doing this right now so we can pick it up when we're doing this walk-through pace when it's super slow.

We're going through all the check. So when we get out in the practice field, we don't look stupid when they run this against this. We want to make sure we have it all. So then we're ready in the game. You do that all week leading up to the game. But Debutt highlights it perfectly. Like, players can cover up. Like, what do the offense is want to do?

They want to get matchups. So they're thinking, all right, say Tyree Kill is in the slot. I'm supposed to carry this dude now because D-Bud's blitz and now. here we go. Let's check out of this. And you always can't do that. Like some teams say you've got a new guy and experience. You try to do that at the snap or right before the snap and you're both not on the same page. Boom. That's how you get guys running free that shouldn't ever happen in the NFL. So the fact that you could do that and the more game reps you get at that you gain, it builds your confidence too. Like you're like, hey man, they can throw whatever they want on us on offense. We have answers to everything that they have that they're going to throw at us. And I think Lou Aniroma and great de coordinators, they give you that confidence. to make those checks in-game, I guess. So offensively, we're only five games into the Danny Dime-Shane-Stykin experience. He's already checking and seeing everything. And defensively, we're only five games into the Lou Anuromo defense.

Boys, there is a new sheriff back in time. Okay, that is all everybody needs to know. But also, congrats to the boys. They've had to work really hard. This has been a shite show a little bit here in Indianapolis. So them being able to turn around is much better than where we've been. were beforehand. I appreciate your boys breaking down that defense. Now, let's break down a sport that's also having massive moments that maybe we don't all get to follow along with

because NFL football is happening, you know, which we can't be doing that Thursday nights and Monday night. But ladies and gentlemen, baseball is in the middle of their playoffs, and it has been spectacular. Ty, what did we miss? Yeah, it has been spectacular. Obviously tough when you have an unbelievable Monday night football game like that. But two great playoff baseball games last night, start in the NLDS with the Phillies and the Dodgers. Pitching duel all the way until the 7th, and this is when you just know it's not your night. Kike Hernandez breaks his bat, but still Teoska Hernandez beats the throw, and the Dodgers go up one nothing, and then Will Smith put a quarter in the mirror go around. He loops one into left center. Dodgers score two more

runs to go up three nothing, and then Chohay to top it off, lines one up the middle, and the Dodgers score another run to take a 4-0 lead. And then we're going to go to the bottom of the 9th. Nick Cassiano's 4-0, 4-0, loops one into left field. Scores two runs for the Phillies, 4-2. They got a little bit of life here. A little bit of life, or 4-3, excuse me. So they're down one run.

Bryson Stott with no-outs, tries to bunt Cassianoos over in the Cardinals, and you cannot make really any out at third base in this situation. Trey Turner lines one up the middle, and boy, Does Freddie Freeman save Tommy Edmund's ass? He scoops the ball there, and that is a final. The Dodgers go on to win four, three, and take a two-oh lead over the Phillies. That was an unbelievable game. Like I said, it was a pitching duel throughout.

But, you know, when it's the Dodgers are inevitable, unfortunately. That's kind of just the way it goes. And then in the NL, we just said the other day, the Brewers kind of nickel and dime people. They just hit singles and singles and singles and score runs. Not last night. Shoto Imanaga in the bottom of the first inning. Andrew Vaughn, I'm pretty sure this may have hit the International Space Station or the Hubble telescope. He hits this thing so high, so high.

Three-run Homer to tie the game and electric environment there. And then in the bottom of the third, Boots, Wilson Contreras, he may have hit this ball a thousand feet. I mean, that was just a mistake by Imanaga. The Brewers take a four-three lead. And then lastly, we'll move on to the bottom of the third Jackson Churio. He's only 21 years old. This guy is a postseason phenom almost gets Rob. Just kidding.

That is way out. Free run, Homer to center. And that's all the Brewers would need. They win 7-3 over the Cubs and take a 2-0 lead over the Cubs. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the man who manages that Brewers team that hit ding-dong after ding-dong last night. I believe he was named Coach of the Year for baseball. He also won into the Irish-American Baseball Hall of Fame.

Go! Ladies and gentlemen, living legend in the baseball world. Manager for the Brewers, Pat Murphy. Slancher, Coach. How you doing? Great, thanks. Thank you for joining us. Big night last night for the boys. Hey, I got a chance to meet a couple of your guys.

Ms. and McGill at the Home Run Derby. Their vibes were immaculate. I think that's a big part of your team. Best record in baseball this year. The vibes in the locker. club house great with this team is this a very tight team and can you feel that yeah it's a great bunch of guys you know nobody expected them nobody predicted us to be over 500 you know we didn't sign a lot of free agents we didn't sign any really but you know we didn't do a lot of the trade

deadline people just didn't expect us to be in this position but it's because of the guys in the room they care about each other it sounds corny but it's real and we have a team tell me a little to do. Tell me about Ms. a little bit, okay? Because obviously last night, I think he had like 30 pitches over 100 miles an hour. I forget what it was. It was an astronomical number. It was the most amount of pitches over 100 miles an hour in an outing in forever or something like that. The records now with how fast guys are throwing the ball are seemingly being broken every single night in baseball, which I think is a good thing. But whenever I got to see him, it was at the All-Star break. And there was a lot of people pissed off that he was an All-Star because he only had

five starts or whatever it was. And his mindset was, he didn't care. I'm at the All-Star game. I don't really care at all. It was an incredible, like, old school type leadership type vibe from him, whenever he's talking about ball. What have you seen from him in his young career? And 104, whatever, I think is what? 104. 4.8.

Let's call it 105. 105. Is he only going to throw fat? Are we going to get 110 from this guy at some point? Or what do we see from him and what are your thoughts on him in his young career thus far? Well, Pat, he gets a lot of attention as a young player. and that's a blessing and a curse, you know, he's done some really good things for us. The miles per hour thing in the baseball world, it's not as important as we make it out to be.

It's just kind of an enigma that people kind of say, wow, you know, like 103, 104, these players can time up anything if they know it's coming. But when they haven't seen a guy and they haven't seen his delivery, that type of thing, it can be a thing. But the thing we've got to have Ms. do is throw strikes. He's got a mature. He's a great kid. We call him Forrest Gump. You know, he kind of doesn't know what's happening to himself.

He's got a lot to learn. He did a great job for us last night. He's been through the ups and downs. He gets a lot of attention because of that miles per hour thing. And there's a lot more to our team than Ms. No disrespect to him at all. But even he's uncomfortable with it, I think. Agreed.

But I'll tell you what, you see 104.8. It's hard not to go, holy fuck. That is really fair. It's hard not to. it's hard not to do that, but it seems like your team, everybody was pawning off kind of credit to everybody else, which is a good culture, obviously. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, coach, speaking to that culture, you as a coach or as a manager, we talk about coaches all the time in the NFL that seem like, hey, like they're on the verge of a heart attack

at all times because there's so much pressure on them. And winning is almost a relief and not fun. Like, how are you able, like you look like you're having fun? It definitely feels like I think it trickles down through your team. Have you always been that type of manager, or was there ever a time you weren't? Well, I mean, you grow. You're all under construction, right? You're always growing. You're always changing. You know, people who know me close know that I like to have a good time. I like to mess around. It's the only way I can exist. As a manager, I come off real intense and real, you know, whatever. But we're not all that important, to be honest with you. You know, you've got a good group and you set the standards high in the right players. stand for the right stuff, you've got a chance to have a good team. In our game, it's kind of complex.

I'm a football person by nature, and I think that kind of helps you in our game once and a while, but not too much, but it helps you. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's about having the right guys. I think our role in this whole thing is a little bit overrated. Yeah, that's what a great leader would say. And just like we just said about Mays and everybody else, we're deflecting, we're deflecting. Hey, you matter, bud. That's why you're in the Irish American Baseball Hall of Fame.

Amen. Okay, and because you're in the Irish Baseball, American Hall of Fame, we know you like to have a good time. Okay, so we just naturally understand who you are, but I appreciate your leadership style, especially because it's working. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Pat, how important is it once you get into the postseason

to be able to win in a multitude of ways? Because, like, we've seen, you know, with how great the pitching has been this postseason, you get a team like a Yankees, you just can't outslug everyone. You've got to be able to put runners on and move them over and be okay, winning two-one games and you guys are obviously great at that but then you have a game like last

night where if you need to out slug someone you can you can go out and hit three homers how important is that come postseason and how much confidence does that give you every single night when you guys go to play yeah i mean that's the thing and it's similar to football right like you got to be able to beat teams in different ways if you just you throw the ball you open up everything and that's all you can do well that that could be problematic too You've got to be able to stop the run. You've got to be able to rush the passer. You've got to be able to special teams.

You know, they've got to be able to do some things. No ball. Hey, we know ball over there. Maybe the Irish American Football Hall of Fame next. Hell yeah. Probably could have been, to be honest with you, but we'll say that for another time. Anyway, yeah, no, I think that it's true in every sport, right? You've got to be able to beat people in more than one way.

And we've got a group of guys that we call them cliffhangers, you know, guys that don't know if their locker is going to beat. there when they get back after the game. They've been up and down from AAA. They've been DFA. They've been through it. The game has humbled them at times. And those are the type players that are hungry.

And again, hungry players can do a lot of things. Yeah. We're seeing that in college ball with a lot of the transfer portal guys, guys that have been kind of overlooked all coming together on teams and doing a great job. I like to hear that that mentality is kind of transferring into baseball as well at this moment, especially with you guys. Everybody's hunting you right now. Go ahead, con man.

Yeah, Skip, during the season this year, was there a moment where you realize, like, oh, okay, we've got a special group here. You know, the vibes in here are different to everyone is getting along and also, you know, we're slapping the ball the other way whenever we want. Is this kind of a feeling you have where this feels as though you're about to go on a very historic and magical run? Well, I mean, you know, we had a special group last year and we won the league by 10 games. again, unexpected. People were calling it going to be a rebuild, and the team just performed. And then we got knocked off in the first round in a dramatic fashion, and I think they remember that. And then coming back this year, we lost two of our great players and didn't really replace them with that much that people would know, but we replaced them

with people that are the right people. And then the season got off to a slow start. We were oh and four. People were really worried about us. And then we, we've just kind of, there was a spot. There was a spot in Pittsburgh. We're on the road. It's a dreary day. There's 350 people in the stands. And we're down in the game. And we've got like three or four at bats in a row, 02 count to base hit. O2 count to ball four. O two count double in the corner. O2 count double in the corner. And I'm like, now that's the edge. We're talking. about, you know, like using every pitch and staying on it. That was pretty special. So that kind of opened the door. And it's, baseball is a long season, man. It's a long season. Yeah, it is. It is.

I don't know how you guys do it, to be honest. Yeah, it's, um, yeah, it's, um, it's kind of the spot. I felt like things kind of started its turn. Coach, I just read, uh, we should have looked this up earlier. Murphy served as the head baseball coach and assistant football coach for the Marriville College fighting Scots in 1983. Wow. 1982 and 83. And then Claremont College,

I was football, baseball, too. And I had aspirations going on to coach college football. When I got to Notre Dame, Coach Holtz was so great. Barry Alvarez was there. They became great friends. And they knew kind of my mentality of, like, I love this stuff.

I'd sit in meetings. So, Max Fee, I got a punt play that I want to know if you know about. Okay. So they snap it to you, okay? And you, instead of kicking it, you throw a spiral straight down the field. Okay. You're outside men.

The returner has no idea you've thrown it. He thinks you've kicked it. Your outside people go down and it's called your gunners, right? Yep. They go down and they run under it and either catch it or run into the guy going to receive it. Even if he fair catches, they run in because if it's really high, you throw it really high, They're going to fair catch it. You have your guy just try to catch it or run into that guy,

pass interference, and we're rolling. Okay. Have you ever done it? Have you ever heard of it? So there's no pass interference on punt plays. I have heard of it and thought of it. Shane Leckler. It's not a punt play.

It's grown. Yeah, but it's a punt formation. So Shane Lechler actually did this a couple times where he would crow hop low and then throw it and they would try to steal it down to a gunner, though. They would throw it towards a gunner and hope that the people that were blocking them didn't think it, especially in the pooch territory, because corners bail on gunners in the pooch area. So I think what you're saying might innovate and change the game.

That might change the entire game. And also, no, you win a World Series right now. Still got time to come coach the football. Still got time over here in the football world. We appreciate you joining us. We thank you for the time. Good luck the rest of the way, and we can't wait to chat with you soon. Thanks, man.

Not a bad idea there. Ladies and gentlemen. Genius. Irish American Baseball Hall of Famer Coach of the Year Hammer Yeah

Skip It's not a bad idea So pump formation Even if it's a throw No No pass interference That's wild I didn't know

Yeah I mean either Yeah because the jammers It would be Yeah kind of PI every time The whole time basically I think they got rid of it Yeah

But if not we should back shoulder every fucking All right We'll see you tomorrow Goodbye Nailed it Nailed it

Yep Nailed it the entire thing oh he wants to say so hold on he's still on pat sorry we had a heart out there i had to get out of there no i got to i got to clarify this because i gave this play to skip holz and he ran it at connecticut and they won they scored on a third and a fourth and nineteen and this is this has got to be uh two thousand and uh whatever skip was at connecticut and and i used to draw it up for holts and holts would be like godjam and murphy if we got to play the university of air force and beat him with the punt play, we're in trouble.

That's a good thing to have in the back pocket, though, Coach. That's all I'm saying. Oh, that's genius. But I didn't understand it. If he fair catches it, he calls for a fair catch, and I run into him. But it's a thrown ball. Why wouldn't it be an appearance? So I think, so at that's, I mean, this might be, I might be completely wrong,

but I think they have gotten to the point where there's no. No pass interference on punt formation plays, I think. Like when they ran it then, they might have still had it, but I think they got into the point. And it's mostly because what guys used to do to gunners. Guys would throw it to gunners, and there would always be. And they're getting pushed. Right, right.

Some sort of thing. So if you just get in the area, it's like a PI. So I think they got it rid of it. But I love that you're thinking of ideas for punters to shine. Like, let's definitely keep that going. One last thing. Garrett Green, West Virginia quarterback, the last three years.

His father is one of my staff members here with the Brewers, Charlie. And Charlie, I signed Charlie to come to Notre Dame in 1988. Now he's on my staff in the big leagues. There you go. And his son, Garrett, quarterback of West Virginia for two or three years, is now with Tampa Bay in the practice roster. Yeah, Garrett. And he's went from quarterback to Gunner, returning punts, all that kind of shit.

So it's pretty special. We pull for him. Gigi ran wild all over for West Virginia. We're very appreciative of him. You talk about having his dad and now he's on your staff. That happened with counsel, right? And it's like a massive piece of the entire storyline of this particular series, right? Isn't it?

How is that for you? I coached him at Notre Dame for four years. He hated me, wanted to kill me. But then we just kept talking when he got into pro ball. And then when he got the job of the Brewers, I was with the Padres and he brought me over. I was his bench coach for eight years and, you know, I was supposed to be mentoring him. But to be honest with you, he taught me a lot about, you know, it's like going from college football, the NFL. It's like totally fucking different.

And, and counts was really, I was supposed to be mentoring him, but the truth was he mentored me on, you know, the major league game. That's amazing. Well, good luck to you, coach. We appreciate the hell out of you. And, hey, any more ideas for the punters? Let's send those. Yeah. Yeah, let's send those.

You're the man. Pat Murphy, appreciate you. Yeah. that guy's awesome they're special holy fuck their special team now I definitely knew

of the Irish American Baseball Hall of Fame inductee coach at a year sorry manager of a year Pat Murphy

I knew of his pancakes in the back pocket I believe Trish Whitaker Indiana University grad former Indianapolis sports reporter

she does a lot with MLB and she does a lot in the baseball world She did an interview with him. This guy pulled a fucking pancake out of his back pocket. Honest, period. Just, yep, after game, middle game.

There's pancake right here. They're wonderful. You want some? He's a gentle, giant, obviously, offers up a little bit. Oh, those are delicious. Pizza, bagels. What else do you keep in your pocket? Whatever fits.

Whatever fits. There you go. You heard of here from Pat Murphy first. So I've seen, I've know of Pat Murphy. God, it was great talking to him. Baseball got through. He feels like a BA, a. baseball right there, like a lifer.

Whatever your thoughts on him? Oh, he's awesome, man. And just watching his journey, you're pulling for guys like that, man. I'm hoping they win it all. 25-year collegiate coaching career. Hall of Famer in there, I think, considered legend. Oh, yeah. And then comes over to the majors now, and he's got the team with the best record in the

entire league. I mean, you talk about them being able to win a multitude of ways, and then just starts breaking down, yeah, dipshit, you got to be able to win. in different ways. That's real, though, because, like, teams, like, I mean, like, the Dodgers, their lineup is so good, but, like, you look at, like, the Phillies and the Yankees, like, they can do things multiple ways,

but, like, with how much money they've spent on guys, their objective is, hey, we're going to get guys on base with walks, and we're going to hit homers, and we're going to basically just fucking pound you into submission. We're going to try to, you know, put, like, put a crooked number up on the scoreboard early, and then you're basically just, you know, it's very hard to beat a team when they just jump on you early like that,

especially in the playoffs because it throws your entire plan off. Like all these guys have plans going into the games. Hey, we want the starter to go five innings or six innings. And then we can get to our horses in the bullpen. So like some of these teams who play like that, that's the whole objective is like, hey, if we score seven runs in the second inning, that fucks up their entire plan. And then it's kind of just like, we'll see what they can hit seven home runs. No, I'm saying seven runs off.

Like you maybe hit two homers. Like what they did last night, they hit three. homers, but they scored seven runs. But you all year have been talking about the Yankees, like, we hit bombs. And for me, I don't know a lot about baseball, but what, all you take is a couple games not doing that in all of a sudden. That's, yeah. Well, that's, NCAA basketball.

Guys get into the tournament, a team's a three-point shooting team, and they have one off night, and they get upset. West Virginia, Pat Beeline, Kevin Pitznoggle and the boys, that entire run. Baseball is a series, I guess, so that protects against it, at least three, five games. Yeah, you assume that at some point it'll come in, but like the Yankees led the majors in homers this year. And because they have like a short porch in right field, like that is part of the makeup of their team.

It's like, hey, we have this kind of advantage here. Let's get some big lefty bats and take advantage of that because not everyone plays with that type of situation. It's like Tony and Schwerber being a leadoff hitters. Exactly. With 50 plus home runs. Yeah. They're trying to hit bomb. We're putting you under it right now. I appreciate

that aggressive mentality, but what, it takes one bad night, but you're hoping that four of your guys don't have bad nights on the same night. Yeah, exactly. You just assume, hey, someone will pick somebody up here. If we can just get one person on base, and then it might not be a homer, but like these teams that slug, it might be a double into

the gap or whatever the case may be. And the Brewers are just getting go away. Well, you heard what he said. He was like, you know, a lot of times we're out there, when he kind of noticed it was special, it was like, we get a single, and then we get down, someone is down O2 in a count, and they work a walk, and then the next guy hits a single,

and then another guy's down O2, and then they hit a double, and now boom, we scored two runs, and it's just like you're making that pitcher works so hard and then on top of it like he mentioned it and we talked to the guy like a lot of guys throw hard there aren't a lot of guys throwing 105 and who have a fucking wipeout slider like jacob miserowski does like it's just if if that guy's on he's he's damn near unhittable i like he said yeah the number is certainly something but anybody can square that up so at this age that's kind that's kind of we need him to throw strikes that's my

whole point about show hey is like look how many guys are throwing a hundred like everyone throws 100. So it's like he's maybe he's like a top 30 pitcher, top 20 pitcher in the majors but he's focusing on that and he strikes out four times at the plate. Like it kind of just, it's astonishing how many of these guys are throwing

101, 102, every fucking pitch. It's crazy. Yeah, and then the junk that comes alongside of it. You know, Paul Skeens is still adding pitches. Yeah. He's still adding pitch. Miz, this guy had five starts before the All-Star break, adding pitches. Yeah. He started, I think, he did the single-ed,

AAA, AAA. He was on buses. Oh, yeah. I think he did the whole professional baseball gimmick to get to where he was. Because that's what he said. He's why. He throws hard and it's very scary as a hitter facing a guy who you don't know if he's going to throw 105 right down the middle or it's going to hit you in the

fucking head. Like that. I don't like that. I don't mind a little. I don't mind a little is this guy going to take him? Fisciently wild. Efficiently wild? Yeah. That's not a bad way to be described. That's a little bit of an outlaw mentality up there on a mind. Trevor Lawrence.

Let's get to a break. On the other side, we'll wrap up all the storylines we haven't chatted about. And I think B.A. is going to make some putts today. Hell yeah. Here we go, B.A. Nice. Ready.

Especially now, you're 73. Feels like this is the right year. Definitely. That was cool talking to him. Yeah, he's the man. So I'm just going to act like anytime baseball comes up a conversation when I'm not on air, I just can't wait to go.

Talk to Pat Murphy, you know. If you don't have a team, too, like there will, it's important. possible not to love the brewers because they don't have any massive stars. They don't have a huge payroll. They're in a small market and they're the best team in baseball. Ladies and gentlemen,

pick up the brewers if you need one. But also, maybe that Toronto team. We'll see. They just beat the hell out of the game. It's not over yet. Tonight's, we're going to play tonight. I watched a clip today that

Gumpy put out because there's a new episode of Rushmore on X. Shout out to Talk, D. Bailey, Dibone, Foxy, and team that have edited, producing, made this entire thing. Now, we didn't shoot it or book it or do it. That's all Ari and Ben's work, which they do a phenomenal job. Maybe the best guest lineup in the history of any show that has ever kind of been launched. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, last week. First episode was on ball catchers, basically, receivers. Incredible shit from the goats, obviously. This week,

Bob Costis, Al Michaels, talking about biggest chokes in the history of sports. And we're talking, there's a 1964 reference in there. There's a 1901, I think Frank Merle. Yeah, Frank Merkel. Merkel, there he is, and a boner chatter. I mean, there is. This is a sports history storytelling masterclass, I believe, is what they would describe this particular episode.

It is available now in its full version at Rushmore on X on X. All the clips from episode live across all social media. of platforms. Here is the teaser trailer for this week's episode that the boys put together. Bob Costas, Al Michaels, just basically talking about the history of sports. That's what it is. So many stories, so many insights. And then Ari Emanuel correcting them. Actually, I was there, motherfucker. And it got good. I mean, it got really good. It's not only like a little bit of debate, but I think the amount of information about sports that comes from this episode, I don't know if I've ever seen anything like it. No way.

really, really cool. We hope you enjoyed. It's available now. I'm John Quignores. Vanessa Guillen, a 20-year-old soldier, vanishes while on duty at an Army base in Texas. Her family demands answers. How can she go missing on a military base? That's too ridiculous. The search goes on for months. Where is Vanessa? And a dark story, starts to unfold. She told her family that she was being sexually harassed

and wasn't reporting it out of fear of retribution and retaliation. What investigators finally uncover is horrifying. Find out how one soldier, a beloved sister and daughter, ignited a movement and sparked a reckoning

in the U.S. military. Listen to Vanished. What happened to Vanessa? A new series from ABC Audio in 2020. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. Tron Aries has arrived. Hostiles. Repeat, we have hostiles. Mayday.

Oh my God, there's hundreds of them. On October 10th, we came here from the digital world. The war for our world begins. What in God's name is that? Unimax. This is the end of this world. No, it's the world. I can help you.

Tron Ares, who did P.G.13, may be inappropriate for children under 13. Only in theaters October 10th. Get tickets now. Football! That's A.J. Hawk directly to my left. That's Coach B.A. That is nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, celebrating the drop of the puck on another NFL season. That's the toxic table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

And let's head over to Hammer. Don, Tahn! What happened with the guy? Samblin last night, congratulations to AJ Hawk. AJ moves to 12 and 3, I believe, or 12, no, 10 and... Yeah, because you were 9 and 4, right? He was 10 and 13. 12 and 3.

Your boys had good weekends. Hey, AJ, that's incredible. 12 and 3 is an incredible weekend. Did we beat the sports books? Did the public beat or did we lose again? Now we lost again. Come on, man. Last night, 65% was on the Kansas City Chiefs.

I think that was to be expected, you know, the Chiefs are the Chiefs in everyone's mind and the Jags are the Jags in everyone's mind. Even if you were on whatever side last night. And then I went back today and I looked and I, because it was last week, sorry, before this

week, before week five started, teams that, you know, were getting 60% or more of the public bet were 10 and 24 against the spread. Good news this week. Those teams went three and six against the spread. So now we are

now 13 and 30 against the spread when teams are getting 60% or more of the best. Okay, do we know that information while we're making the picks? I know it's always like, hey, this is being reported from this sports book, this percentage, but we don't know what the overall is. I think there's some question marks on the percentage of money on what picks before the bet. And then obviously we know immediately afterwards because all the final tally is kind of released. Do we have that info going in? And are we going to learn our fucking lesson, boys?

We need to start thinking about this. I think generally we know, and to your point, like, someone will report, like, here are the top five most bet on teams at ESPN bet. Here are the top five most bet on teams at so-and-so. Sometimes there's some differences, but normally, you know, just like polls, Pat, obviously. They're generally correct.

But we, yeah, I know. I was joking. We are, but yeah, we definitely know more after the fact, because I definitely do question some of those numbers sometimes. but also like we give out those numbers on a Friday and most people do their betting like if you're not a professional most people aren't making their bets until like Sunday morning so a lot more stuff comes in then

yeah so we need to be smarter yeah 13 to 30 what's so funny Dibut because we won't be no we need to be we're locked in that's the other half of the hammer died Cowboys Bubba Gumbino and I don't want to hear it from you I'm about sick of hearing fucking Muppets from some team doing something somewhere

You know, me and Gumpy, it's fall college game day season So me and Gumpy traveling together, you know Gumpy obviously and I spending time around each other And I'll tell you what, it's always a nice refresher Whenever you're around somebody that is literally betting On every sport that is happening, even the Shanghai Open Yeah, yeah, actually Gump had a couple of locks from the Wuhan Open And he bet on the Spurs to beat Guangzhou 119 to 88

That's what I'm saying Wait, you say the Wuhan open? Is it the Wuhan open or Shanghai? The Wuhan Open? The Women's Tennis Association. So are they saying like Wuhan back? Because remember when Wuhan back? Wuhan back.

They thought it was over, but Wuhan back. That was at the beginning of the recovery of the entire. We did it. We beat COVID. You remember those times? Those were happening. We celebrated that what 10 times we thought we beat? least. There'd be an email

from a league saying, guess what? We're packing a stadium this weekend and we're like, we beat it. We started celebrating and it turns out nope, actually this stadium over here is still doing a, oh, there's another, what was it call whenever a bunch of them happened? Wave, obviously, variant. Variant

was a game changer. You guys thought Omicron. Yeah, right, dude. Super duper Alpha-Tron is coming through. This one's like the OG-19 and then also has little shades of 17 and 18 as well. So we celebrated a bunch

in its entirety, but I think Wuhan Open is something that Gumpy would gamble on. And being alongside Gumpy while he's going through all these bets and hearing about how good all the sports books are doing, it has been very entertaining. Gumpy, Liverpool is not showing up for you, or is

it the Inter-M Miami Boys, or is it Barcelona or Real Madrid? I forget who was. He has a couple go-toes that always show up for him. They haven't been showing up because they're a bunch of fucking knobs right now. Oh, no. Liverpool's lost three straight. It's not good, but we're on an international break now for two weeks, so it's nothing but football.

You know what's great, Pat, because you're obviously with him a lot during these. I also am as well. When Gums put in a bet, puts in a bet, he's 100,000 percent correct. Or he knows that bet is going to hit. He is not wish. That man has never wishy-washy one time. Not one time. And then as it's happening, obviously, he made the right decision.

These fucking Muppet. Just the anger that comes from a notification. Fucking refs, man. A notification pops up on his phone. Okay, we're flying. We have spotty Wi-Fi. Spotty, Spotty Wi-Fi. 5 a.m. in the morning.

Spotty Wi-Fi. And we're just flying. And then all of a sudden, notifications will pop up on phone. And he has notification set for every app in his phone, I think. I've never seen this many. They all show up at the same time. He's swiping through him. And all you'll see is, fuck.

And then just a couple more. And then the Muppet or Knob or, I forget. There was one that he was running with there for a while. It was unbelievable. Gumpi, you're going to get him, bud. Yep. Here we go. Got him last night.

Trevor Lawrence, Mahomes, in the paint. We're back. We're in the green. Oh, yeah, you were jagging off. A lot of people were saying. Yeah, you were. I certainly were. All right.

we'll beat them. We will beat the sports folks. You know, there's a couple things about this Chiefs team that are a little bit alarming, especially if you go back to when they were dominating everybody. They actually set NFL record for the amount of close games won in a season. Okay. John Ewing put out a tweet that kind of went on a run and said, Chiefs in one score games, 11 and 0, that was last year, and then 0 and 3 this year. They're not the only ones. Minnesota Vikings want 11 and 0 a couple years back in one score games. games and then the next year we're not good in one score games in hembo whenever he delivered said stat because those are NFL records by the way 11 one score victories is the most they are tied wow so they were able to do that and obviously that becomes the identity of the team hey in these close games they're able to win it they're able to win it we thought that about the vikings and we carried that over in the next year and do you remember we're losing a lot of bets on a lot of close games because they were when you talk about being able to win close games is that a skill is Is that a trait that a team has and maybe some teams don't have?

Like, how do you view that as a coach? And do you know if your team has the ability to win these close games? Like, how is the change for the chiefs go from 11 and 0 to 0 and 3? And the Vikings, how are they able to do 11 and then not somebody? Why do you think as a coach that happens? And when do you know if your team is a team that can win those ones? You would know by now. Each year is so different.

Your teams change. Your defensive guys change. You lose some guys to free agents. bring some guys in, you don't know how they're going to act in that last two minutes. I know I've been on the sideline where the Super Bowl 43, we're going to win this. Ben's going to take us down the field and win. We've got to go 92 yards. No panic.

When your guys are on the sidelines, we got it. Right now the bucks have it. I think they're different. It's like plus three, plus six something, and they're four and one. But because if there's time on a clock, Baker's going to win the game. So they have that belief right now. And it starts to permeate through your whole locker room. So is it a belief of confidence?

It is totally a belief in a confidence. Can you coach it? Like, can it create it if a team doesn't have? I think you put your guys in enough situations in training camp in practice, especially in dual practices, in those situations that you get very comfortable. And so much of it is on your quarterback and so much as other than it's on your defensive line. All right? Being able to get to the quarterback, for instance, the Browns winning that game.

You know, Carson was, he was clean. He was clean that. Close it out. Yeah, this is, oh, he had to take her. Hey, we paid you all this money. What are we doing? When we need you in London. And the Browns don't have that right now.

They don't have the beliefs they're going to win this game. All right, it's obvious because they can't win them. All right? But other teams just, it's nothing, man, we got this. Debutt, what are your thoughts? Can you learn that through a season or does a team have it going into that? I agree with everything coach said as far as every win, it just stacks that confident in the beliefs.

And most of the time, the games come down a two-minute drive, You know, whether it's the end of half or the end of the game, where as a defense, you know the situation when that happened last night. Most people didn't think when Trevor Lawrence, before the kick, two timeouts left a minute, 45. If that was Patrick Mahomes getting the ball, 90% of public, oh, they're going to go down and win the game. With Trevor Lawrence, it's probably the opposite. I tweeted out, all right, can he answer?

Can he respond? And he did. But like now going forward when the Jaguars in this situation again, as a team, even as a defensive player, when you stand on that sideline, you have confidence in that offense and we do this shit every team does it damn there every week you know whether it's Thursdays and whenever it is hey two minute drill this is a situation one time out minute five left on the clock needed field goal whatever that situation is so when you get in that um in the actual game situation you're not really thinking you're just going through the different

things you have and then coaches when it comes to preparing these teams one thing in new england that we always did was got to have the situation so whether it was like a 15 play script like okay, what does this team go to and they're got to have a situation? That could be two-point plays. That could be, when I was playing fourth down, going forward and fourth down, wasn't that big, but hey, it may be a fourth and two or whatever.

Okay, they're like sprint-right option. Do you like this? So what are the things that they lean on? Because most coaches, they're going to go back at their best shit when the moment is in the biggest, when it's in the biggest moment. So it's preparation and then it's confidence that's built throughout that, you know, that season.

How about whenever you're 11 and O and then O and 3? Do you lose it? Do you lose confidence, age? Do you think they even doubt in themselves or they just run into other teams that were willing to do it to them as well? I mean, I don't think guy like Patrick Mahomes is losing confidence in what he is able to do, but maybe some guys around him are, I think are standing around. I don't know, I can't speak for them, but I know in being places, like sometimes you're waiting on somebody else to make the play. Like when great teams that I've been on, you feel like, no, I'm going to go make this play.

If you're on defense, we want to end this game. Like we have, it's a belief in confidence. It truly is, but it definitely starts with a quarterback. You have to have a quarterback that's a stud that everyone says, hey, if we get this guy the ball, we know for sure he's going to take it down and score and get us this win. And you need to have a defense to where it's like, no, I'm not going to wait on somebody to make a play. I'm going to go make that play.

And all 11 guys on the field are trying to be that dude and get off the field. I think shoot last night when Jacksonville scored, there was like 30 seconds left. Oh, shit, my home's going to take this back. He's going to get a field goal. Yeah. It's like, that's going to happen. And I don't have a reason. The penalty before he even got to take a snap.

Fucked them. And that's why football is like the ultimate team game. We always talk about complimentary football. But as great as the quarterback is, if they don't get put in the right situation, starting on the 30 as opposed to starting on 13 is a huge difference. Or the 40. Yeah. So let's talk about these kickoffs.

Let's talk about these kickoffs because you just mentioned it there with Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville having to start at the 40 because the kickoff out of bounds. There's been multiple now. Squibs hitting early, not landing in the landing zone and people getting the ball at the 40. kickoff out of bounds here, ball at the 40. And then there's also been situations where they've pinned people because you have to kick it in there, and that's shown up big for them. This new kickoff, okay, with the 35-yard line as the new touchback line,

in the landing zone basically, it is forced teams to have to throw a strike. Like you have to throw a strike. You have to put the ball over the plate, and you have to go make a tackle. So you're talking about third stringers. Guys that are just getting onto the team on Thursdays, okay, are going to be making huge plays. And if they just so happen to get a little peeky this way and the guy next to them on the other side happens to get a little peeky this way, that is a home run. And this is exactly what the NFL was hoping.

The NFL was hoping the kickoff would become important again. And there's numerous games now that we're thinking, hey, that ball lands before the landing zone. That ball's at the 40. With the way kickers are kicking balls right now, that's one first down and we got a fucking field goal at least. It's like the kickoff is now very important, very crucial at the end of games. and you've got to have a weapon kicking that ball. You need some sort of coverage that can win a game for you, basically, at the end of it, B.A. I think it's changed everything, the K-ball especially, because the kickers, I mean, Aubrey's going to kick a 70-yarder.

You know he's going to make it. Case McLaughlin kicking a 65-yarder outside in Tampa Bay. It's crazy. But it's like, I would kick it out of the end zone. No, shit, they get it on the 35 is one completion. He's going to kick a field going to tie the game or win the game. Borialis up there in New England hit a 50. year game winner that hit top

of net. That ball might have been good for 85. That might have been good from 70 plus yards for a game winner. This is in Buffalo. Now granted, it's very warm and everything like that. It's still warm in a year. That's at the top of the net from 52 to win the game in Buffalo. He's got long sleeves on so KP2. But that's

outside in this entire. You talked about the new K-balls. This is a huge win for kickers and punters here and snappers as well. We chit-chatted about it whenever we learned about it because the special teams group of coordinators that have been tasked with both changing the kickoff to keep it in the game, have also been presenting other rules that special teams has had.

It's like, hey, now that we got a little bit more trust in the league with us creating things that maybe they think would be good for the game and understanding the way, the special teams coordinator is like, hey, can we go back to having K-balls, but we'll keep it, you know. It got a little crazy. So those that don't know, the K-balls used to be brought by the teams, and it got to a point where it was just abuse. I mean, these balls would show up like this.

I mean, this is what the balls would show up so beat up. They were actually putting them in like a dryer, like commercial dryers to like make them get blown up. One thing led to another. Guys were obviously murdering footballs. One thing led to another were one of these shitty-ass K-balls that was designed strictly to be kicked further and however they wanted to do that beat up. Got into an actual play.

Quarterback throws a pick with it. Full investigation happens into the ball. They go, enough of this. And then it was brand new balls fresh out of the box. So it was like, I hope you guys are happy. This is what you got now. The balls were in a box, brought out opening kickoff. Good luck.

Okay? Then kickers and punters got so pissed off about that because we're kicking blocks like plastic. You're basically giving us plastic. This is, this is trash. This is like the worst. Why would we do this? So then they gave a 30 minute time period for equipment managers to break in the ball with officials watching them. This has been the development of the K ball rules through this entire thing.

So then there's seven of them in total. Basically, the first three are the only ones that. they're going to see the field, normally only the first two, depending upon what happens. And the equipment managers would just beat those things up, just for 30 minutes. They come out sweating. They'd have one brush. There's one bottle of water, and that's all you were allowed to use, okay? And it was watched and regulated.

And our guy, Frog, would come out sweating just, and we'd be like, how are they? He'd be like, you're good. It's like, thanks, man. Thank you so much for doing what you're doing. And if there was a shitty equipment manager from the other team doing it, we would even tell the other kickers and punters like hey our ball good if you want it or whatever and they you could like oh yeah you would help them out you would help them out because we wouldn't want their guy their ball in ever so then we would just say hey we're only using ball one do you

guys agree with that yes so then they agree so we're only using ball one as opposed to rotating balls because if we heard that their guys sucked like other teams would come up to us they'd be like hey our guy sucks it's like sweet we'll do ball one and if we need a murder see ball one, we'll go to ball three, because if it was home, we'd have the odd numbers. So then we as teams would go to person and say, hey, we're using this, we're using this. You know, an agreement, ball two then, just back of the pile, we're not even using it. So it was like there was a little politicking going on as well. And if you had a good equipment manager, it was fucking great news.

Now these guys are allowed to work them all week, and then they bring them into games, and they have to pass a test. They still have to be in condition that is worthy of being on 8K television. for the NFL right now. So it's still got to be a good looking Duke. But I mean, it's 10 to 15 yards, I would say, of distance between brand new ball versus very beat up ball. And I put that tweet out and I saw it got a lot of traction, which was cool. People like 10 to 15 yards is like I mean, shit, depending upon what their thing is, maybe 20 yards, 17 to 20 yards of it, let alone for punning how much hang time. It's like a beat up ball is just so much better. That's why

quarterbacks bring their own balls in. That's why baseball is, I think, whenever they get beat up or kind of subbed out or whatever. It's like, these things are leather, and what you're trying to do is crack into them and hit the bladder, and then that's exploding off there. So the more beat up you can get the outside, you can obviously get to the bladder. That thing's gone.

It's like, this is a big roll change. I think it's a big rule change for kickers. And that 52-yarder that went over the uprights for New England, and then 65-yarder, and then Aubrey goes strolling out there for 66-yard. It's like, this is going to only continue. So the touchbacks at the 35 with the ability to kick these long balls, you know, there's a lot of strategy. There's strategy going in there, and special teams in the kickoff matters now even more than it's ever had. And I think that's a success for the rule makers.

Yeah, and for the fans too, because I really do believe, especially when we look at this, like over the course of a year, like this rule yields more close games. And if you're a fan of a team, like you have more hope going into one of these last drives. It used to be, you know, like if your kicker was kind of so-so and you had like a full. 52 yarder. It's like, well, okay, we've got a 10% chance of making this. Now it really does feel like, hey, we just got to get one completion. And then we'll try our guy out there for a 65 yarder. And McManus will make it. Exactly. Exactly. But then on the flip side, it is like, if you don't know how to execute that kickoff, like that, that's just killing teams. Because it is, it's just like already, if you have a, if you have a quarterback who maybe you don't envision him

as that guy who, like, bake, who he's going to go down the field and score. Like, you start at the 40 yard line. Like, there's no room for air for your defense. A lot of confidence going on the field when you got to bought the 42. Oh, there's no doubt. But like you said, that penalty on the kickoff against Kansas City, if they get the ball on the 31, my homest is getting it to the 50. I guarantee you, and he's going to attempt 58, 59, probably make it and go to overtime. Bucker, yeah.

Bucker's a real deal. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of those guys that are really good. Yeah. Spencer Schrader for the Colts made a lot of big kicks for us. He tears a couple of ligaments in his knee out for season. Colts have made a signing a kicker Michael Badgley The Money Badger

The Money Badger He's back. He'd been on the team before He was good for us He was good for us I think we had Hot Rod at the time Remember Hot Rod? Yeah, oh yeah Where was his last stop? Badgeley

Chargers maybe? I think Chargers. He's got a lot of moxie I thought he was on a team already Me too I think he's one of these guys that hasn't had a good situation Like, you know, when you become a carousel kicker, you've worked out a lot of these guys. You're not on a team, but you're in a rotation of guys that get workouts, basically,

anytime a kicker gets hurt or something like that. And then you might get an opportunity for two, three weeks because the kickers hurt or one week because the kickers hurt. Then you hope that that film's good enough that you get potentially signed somewhere else. Very rarely do you get in there and then just take the job. There's been a couple of those situations that have happened. Inevitably, that happens for a lot of people. If you're not in the actual, it's hard to crack. It's hard that you need an injury, and you need to get hot at the right time.

Because if you get in there as like a filling and you miss one, it's like, see ya. We can find another guy that can come in here and miss. Anybody come here and miss. I got a question for both of you. So what do you think he's been doing, I guess, throughout this season to kind of stay in the type of kick and shape. And then for BA, are we more likely to see now a lot more fourth down, a lot more four down territory for the COVID?

once they kind of cross that midfield? I think from what I remember, he's got a long, strong leg. Yeah, he's good, I think. So you trust him off the rip? Oh, yeah. I mean, for me, that's the general manager, pro personnel.

They got five guys at every position on that board. He's the best one. We lose this guy. We're getting this guy. And same thing with kickers. So they've got to have a ton of confidence in a guy. I'm not changing a damn thing

the way I coach or decide anything. I hired your ass. Do you a job. I love everything. that that is awesome that is a very like yeah this is your job go make the fucking kick that is what we're here for well it's a new guy he hasn't been around the team we're on a good run right now number one team in the afc we literally just got this guy he was on the lions in 24 we were just learning obviously might have been a fill in for a little bit there with bates was hurt no he was

fine and then they brought bates in into camp they had a battle bates won that thing and had a good year so he badgerly was completely fine with the lions when he was there and since then he's been just kicking yes madman out yeah he's literally just kicking and waiting for another opportunity. It's an interesting little, that would be a cool documentary, actually, because there's a lot of camps that people go to, like right now, Nick Novak is former kicker. He was a journeyman kicker.

He'd been on a lot of teams. Loves the art of kicking, like still holds camps and everything. He'll have a lot of free agent guys that he'll record working out, and then he'll put him up there. And you've got guys from around the league watching these videos, and they're like, okay, we'll put that guy on the board if we do this. Nice. So, like, traveling, going to these camps, working out,

posting clips like that is literally what kickers you're hustling basically for your next opportunity at a tryout and then you just got to hope you get hot at the tryout and then you get an opportunity and then you get an opportunity and literally if all you need is like a couple people to see you do well and you'll get an opportunity and if you get an opportunity and you crush it it's like you can have a fucking job forever or you get right back in a carousel and have to wait for another opportunity it's an interesting probably not coming what's that when you fail yeah yeah there's the bottom of the carousel yeah you're not ride the pony you're on that little thing at the bottom that doesn't move.

Did you go out and watch these workouts or no? The kicking workout? No. No, I just trusted pro personnel people. Give me the best guy you got. Who'd you have whenever you guys did your Super Bowl run? Pro personnel? No, kicker. Who was kicker down there? Oh, Ryan Suckham. Yeah, he was great. Oh, money, but 52 was it.

Maybe 49 into the win. But we knew exactly and he was honest as a coach, I can't make that. Which is a big piece of information. good, we'll go for it. He hit the same ball every time. Yeah. He was a robot.

We came out the same year. He was Mr. Irrelevant with the Kansas Chiefs, I do believe, and watching him just his stance and how he did, he was just so consistent, same exact ball. And to your point, it wasn't like super long ball, but it was just like knew exactly where he was going. He was a good kickoff guy, too. I think he was okay to kickoff. Yeah.

He had a long run up, right, on the kickoff. I think he had a little bit of a longer run up, not as long as Jason Hanson. Jason Hanson, he used to run 25 yards. Legend. that was unbelievable it was he went into the he went into the he's a hall of fame nominee yeah before the mcdc era and before matthew stafford and calvin johnson jason was the best lion of my lifetime and keep in mind i didn't watch very rough road so yeah i love jason 20 years i think he didn't he was awesome 20 years he kicked up there in detroit i don't think one playoff game right

zero playoff games which is insane but if you're a fan you're gonna see yeah the kickers my favorite. He was. A lot of hands and journeys in the crowd. I played with

the goat. Yeah. So trust me. His kickoffs, it was so much fun the week of the practice, you know,

because he's got to give a good look. Not really. He's only doing it. Just he would start. For real. I think I remember to this too.

Dude, that's literally. He'd get through. Start at the back line in the end zone. Dude, it was, you legit? You're starting like the five-yard line. Balls kicked off at the 30 at the time. That was when we used to run up, too, the kicker as the kickoff team.

Yeah, and they had to, like, time it up. And it was unbelievable. And now guys are taking one step to hit this kickoff. Yeah, well, guys, techniques have gotten a lot better over the years. Sweet spots have gotten better. over the years. Strength, explosion has a... Jason Hanson is a legend. Absolutely. I loved him.

He's Hoffnong with AJ? Hawthnaw now. What a man. That could be a class. I played against him. I believe I played against him. When did he retire? I played against it for many years. He played for like 35 years. Yeah, I think he retired right before they made the playoffs. So, like, he had played all those years. My whole lifetime, I never watched them playing the playoffs. He retires, and then they make the playoffs.

May, thank you for doing what you did for football for as long as you did. More people should have seen it, Jay. why you're a Hoffnaw. Oh, yeah. All right, B.A., what do we need to get your take on? We need, oh, college. Last week, last week we talked to you about college. We need to do that more.

You're very, how many years of coach college? 17. Okay, 17 year of college. Long time. That's your head coach. Right now sitting on advisory, a council of maybe Virginia Texanx, coach. How's that going?

I saw the $229 million official announcement for the athletics department. Good for you. We're going to start meeting today. Added a name this morning, I believe. Yeah, we're trying to pitch some names to get in that, but you're a starting meeting today? Is that real? What, you got to Zoom? Yeah, right on the way to the airport.

Okay, he's dialed in. Okay, he is out in. We've got a good car, good space. He's going to have a good office there, and I'm excited to see who you come up with. Did you see this past weekend? Great, college football slate. Arch Manning, okay? This Texas team, in the story of it, is going to certainly be an interesting one. obviously we all know that Arch has potential I mean everything going into the year was he's going to be number one overall pick

this guy's going to win a Heisman. Now we're sitting after them losing two games to Florida and at Ohio State and at Florida and we're wondering what the hell's going on in Texas as a whole. Sark has never had the rankings offensively that he has right now and obviously Florida was able to do their thing

against his Texas team and it's never really that close. What do you think's happening down there with Ark? And is there a way to correct course for a quarterback because he's down there three years now, right? This is his third year down there? I thought he's a true freshman last year, but I am not sure. No, maybe second year.

How many years, Tone? This is year three for Arch, year two for Lagoa. Okay, yeah, so this is third year for Arch at Texas. How are we, what would you do? How do you, can you work on fundamentals still at this point? You have to, right? Every day, every day. I mean, even in the pros, we'd have our quarter,

we'd call it going to the driving range. everyday quarterback's 25 minutes of fundamentals before practice and so yeah I think his off platform throw seemed to be very off for whatever reason we saw the grimace a couple weeks ago

and I thought it was pissed because of the shitty throw but there might be something to it because the kid is really really good I mean he's everything we thought he was and it's just not happening on the field I think Florida's defensive line got after him really really good and

And, you know, I think the noise affected their offensive line at the swamp. And DJ Lagway played like we thought DJ Lagway played. He looked fantastic, finally. And, but Arch, I don't know what's going on, but they got to get the correct quick. Yeah, it's certainly going to be a lot of pressure down there in Texas. I mean, that's certainly going to mount and everything like that. In the modern NIL world with contracts and how much everything, I wonder literally how any of that works. Because you go back a couple of years to Florida State when they had DJ Ui Ungalouet

and it was going how it was going. It was almost like they felt obligated to play him or like they had to play him because the amount of money that he was being paid and I'm not saying that that's happening at Texas ever but with the amount of money

that's being paid to everybody there is even more outside expectation. You know what team looks unbelievable? Hey, AJ, at Ohio State team, brother. Hey. Yeah. Nobody's talking about Ohio State right now.

Okay? Because they played Texas week one and then into the abyss. Nobody's going to talk about anything that they do. When do they play a top five team? Okay. All this year is,

been is top 10 teams versus top 10 teams. When Ohio State plays somebody out, listen, okay, we don't want to hear. All they've done is just use this as practice almost. It feels like and find who they are. Is that what has happened with Ohio State for those that maybe haven't watched or followed along the last few weeks with them? Yeah, I mean,

they're coupling a suffocating, unbelievable defense right now that flies around and doesn't let teams score with an offense that seems to be very efficient. And Julian's saying, I believe, as a quarterback, is also kind of flying under the radar and the dude's making, he's making some great throws

week in and week out, and yes, he has great talent around it, but yeah, they're rolling right now, man. Yeah,

they're not the only ones. I mean, Alabama's all the way back. Yeah. A huge winner. This time, Miami, unbelievable.

Hey, Miami looks the part. You know? Yeah, they do. They look the part. Every position looks the part. Like, when I went up to Penn State and saw the whiteout

and I was on the field and I saw Penn State's defense and I looked at every player and I'm like, Jesus, they looked apart. I mean, D-line, everybody shredded massive. D-Bs, everybody.

big athletic. You look at this Miami team trenches, big, massive shredded offensive line, big, massive dudes. Quarterback, six foot six, two wide receivers that are very explosive, a third if they need it. I'll run game if they have to have it. Just everything that they have looks the part down there for

Miami. It is a special time to be a hurricane. It feels like South Florida is very much vibe. And this is only just the beginning because I think they have money. And Chris' Ball recruits 24-7 is what we're being told. And whenever the U is back, I mean, that they do to recruit themselves just playing football and having that swagger.

So I'll ask Bea, we talk about Ohio State, talk about Miami. We know what Oregon is, the powerhouse. You mentioned to other teams, Ole Miss, Bamalus. Who do you think is the best team in the country right now? Well, for me, gosh, I'd have to say Ohio State. Okay. The way the quarterback is, and as good for them, they beat Texas. They didn't ask the quarterback to do too much, defense played lights out,

let this kid grow, all right? They got Smith, they got all the receivers. He looks like he is moving. and in the right direction. Ty Simpson and Alabama, the same thing. All of a sudden, this cat's a superstar. Why the hell has he been sitting on the bench for a couple of years? I did.

He had a bunch of good guys, you know. And I love that he didn't transfer. I love the fact that he stayed, fluttered out, and he's getting his dude at Alabama. Alabama looks like they're the real deal, too, in the SEC. I never count out Georgia, but Lane Kiffin's got him rolling at Ole Miss. They're scoring a bunch of points.

I mean, it's going to be a fun battle all the way to the end. but if I had to pick one right now, I'd have to say, Ohio State. Well, and then if you think about two, like just looking at that list of odds, Oklahoma is only plus 1,800 because Mateer, you know, has been playing these last two weeks.

If Oklahoma goes out, you know, Mathier actually does come back. Pete Dammer reported that he's pushing to return this weekend for the Texas game. If he does come back in Oklahoma, you know, beats Texas. Are we then talking about Oklahoma being one of those teams? Because they've been out of the conversation.

For no real reason aside, from the fact that he, you know, he's kind of questionable. That's a pretty big real reason, though. He was best quarterback in, maybe in country whenever he was playing. And Arbuckle, his offense coordinator came with him. So we thought maybe him leaving would affect the entire offense because obviously they were a package. They still win games.

Venable still has the defense. And if he comes back to play against Tech, let's go to Hammer. Don! That's a massive game this weekend. I think we all probably assumed game day was going to be at. And then you have unfortunate losses happen. then he can't do it. So we're heading out to Oregon,

and it's with Indiana again. It's all the way back. I mean, our name hasn't even been mentioned this entire thing, let alone Oregon. But down there, Texas, Oklahoma,

the story is Mateer's back. Is that happening? That's a great question. I saw that earlier today, and a lot of the reports were like, hey, he's going to be pushing to get back by the end of October.

What are we sitting on October 7th right now? So, I mean, that would be a really, really quick comeback. I know Oklahoma is thinking about building a statue for the surgeon who did the operation on his hand if he does get back for this game. But like even if he doesn't, Michael Hawkins got some playing time last year. Was it great? No, it wasn't terrible, though, either. Their O line was a disaster. They didn't

have any wide receivers. He played okay last week. They can still, there's no reason they can't win this game without Mateer. Would they be much better with Mater? I mean, they're dogs right now. So that line makes me think that Mattier, or at least the books don't think Mattier is going to play this weekend but like he's just he's different like he he's a wild card you have no idea what he's going to do you have no idea what throw he's going to make or what he's going to try um i definitely want to see mater back this weekend but it is when you look at that slate it is an absolute loaded slate of college football this weekend all every single one of those games was either a ranked team currently or a ranked team at the start of the season so at one point all of these teams have

been ranked this season so it is a is going to be a very very exciting weekend of college football Got a lot of good ball coming, and then obviously MetLife Thursday night kicks it all off as Philadelphia Eagles travel out to New York. Dr. Shin is the name you're looking for out there in Oklahoma that did the surgery on John Mateer. And they're saying if he gets back for Texas for just a couple weeks, Dr. Shin's hands might be etched in stone forever. Thank God for his successful procedure. Dr. Shin is the goat. Boomer Sooner says John Mateer. Good luck to all the boys in their recovery.

Great work there. zone all right on the way out here b a you want to make some putts for some people here we go here we go no glasses yeah all business no glasses tipping up which potter do you want to use we have a variety of options you're going to the long oh yeah okay this one like this one yeah this is the extend though i will say this is not just long it is an extendo he'll have to make about an eight foot pot here on a very tough thunder dome green yeah we have seen this green take down plenty of man heavily not a j hawk we have seen it take down lots of people you are correct people that say they're good golfers get taken down what's that yeah that's the spot

now hold on coach is there are three balls there or how many balls you got three balls you got to go uh one of three yeah oh there you got to go two of four you got to go two of four here uh to make it only eight feet now it does break a little bit right and left yeah exactly you got to find the right spine You played just a few days ago on your birthday, correct? You played well, you putted well? Okay, let's go. You make two out of four. We'll give 20 people, $500.

He'll repost this video and say something kind. A.J. Hawk is about to give you a motivational speech, if you'd like to hear it. B.A., I am not here to give you a motivational speech. You don't need one. Just go drain four out of four right there and call it. He wasn't listening. He didn't have his headphones. I know.

I know. I can see that. Thank God he did it because of what you said. We're trying to get some winners. around here. Ty, why don't you're going to drain them all. Brute, B.A. knows he's going to drain them all. He doesn't need to just make two out of four. You're going to double it if he makes four out of four? Yes. Yes, I

will. Yes, I will. And it'll be coming out of your check. Ty, anything to say to Coach B.A. As he tries to do the impossible. Yeah, B.A., you've told us that, you know, you've let a couple of your putters go, you know, take a dive in the water. The

urgency and quickness with which you picked up the long putter makes me think that's in his bag right now, and he use this over the weekend maybe let's go right in the heart of the cup sink these fuckers oh no I really like this one on this surface

okay okay on this surface on this day okay long here we go and synthetic let's get some authentic buckets from coach BA oh he's got to

oh yeah with the Super Bowl ring oh no with the Super Bowl ring up there on the top it's got to go two of four smooth wow ladies gentlemen

perfect pace too yeah the touch is real from the QB whisperer he's got a Super Bowl championship ring on top of a

putter bang oh my god that's 20 winners and $500 now if he makes both of these

there's a chance that we double this thing holy shit stop you're right oh bruce

it's been awesome Bruce pause pause pause pause Fuck on.

Don't throw them off. Hold on, Bruce. Connor has some thoughts on your putting stroke. I think he'd like to give you before you try to do the impossible and make all four putts here at the Thunderdome. I'm going to be honest. I thought when you grabbed that putter, you were the goofiest son of a bitch ever to step on that green.

And now that you're three or three, all of a sudden I might get back into golf and I might get one of those pictures of putters. Wow. You're inspiring people back to the sport here. You're driving sales of long putters. Now, I do think the adibated. benefit of the Super Bowl ring.

Does help. Right. Yeah. Yeah. A little anchor. All right. All you're going to do is make this point and we'll give 40 people, $500.

Oh, my God. On his BA day. Walked it off. Wow. Oh, my God. No one's ever done that. Ever. Thunderdome history.

There it is. No one's ever done that either. Knock it all over. No one's ever done that either. Thunder dome. It sounds unbelievable. Bruce. Holy shit.

No one's going to do that again. He's so. Wow. Unreal. That was an honor to watch. Tell you, me. I never got. Never a doubt.

Good job. Good job. Wow. He liked it on this surface. Dude. That putter, this surface with a walkoff. What a run.

Good for you. Happy B.A. Day to you. Thank you, brother. All you got to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you,

and you might be randomly selected to be one of 40 winners of $500 because B.A. can't miss. That was sick. Thank you for today, B.A. That was awesome. That's why, Bruce.

All right, we'll be back tomorrow. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change this life. We're listening together. Team on me.

B.A., anything you said to the team? Great day. Better day next week. Hell yeah. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Bye.