The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1425 - Watt Wednesday, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Roman Reigns, Emeka Egbuka, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 5 of the NFL season as AQ gives his five best offensive lines of the week and biggest takeaway’s, and Darius Butler highlights the best DB play of the week, as well as chatting about last night’s incredible Yankees comeback win against the Blue Jays in the ALDS, and Aaron Judge’s massive moment. They are also joined by several great guests including JJ Watt to recap this last week in the NFL and look ahead to next week, The Tribal Chief, The GOAT, the Head of the Table, Roman Reigns, Buccaneers rookie WR superstar Emeka Egbuka, and Stanford Stever for Anudder College Football Convo. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humber the Bow, the Thunderdome. On this watch Wednesday, October 8th, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It is magical, and sports are the greatest. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day, and football is normally the topic of discussion on this particular show, but today's a little bit different. And yes, we have 12-year NFL vet and Super Bowl champion, A.K. Shipley here.

Baby A. Let's go, boy. Penn State guy. Penn State, Penn State. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we are Penn State. And what are we? And what are we? We're a bad football team right now.

No! You guys lost one bad game. Oregon's a really good team. I mean, obviously, you guys do. What about the next one? Well, UCLA, obviously, you guys don't show up. It's a lot of travel. It's a far player over there.

Nico I, I, Maliava, at some point, was going to play like Nico. And, yeah, it wasn't just new Oswald. I mean, the whole team just ready to. to kind of beat that Penn State ass it felt like over there at UCLA and that's what happened to Penn State brother you still have faith everything's still in front of us

plenty of time everything's still in front a lot of big games you gotta go to Ohio that's gonna be tough a lot of it's gonna be tough obviously still happening you get a lot of big games ahead you can still make it happen

why do you sound like you're losing faith right now well that's the cell you gotta beat Indiana you gotta beat Ohio State but you lost to UCLA on the road it's tough

it's tough hey they're better than their record says yeah of course nine year NFL vet Darius J Butler is here Everything DB, Good, D, Bad D, D, going to be on today. Can I wait to see who made it and who did not?

We should start judging teams a little bit more from Everything D, B, Good, D, D, Bad D, and into the trenches. Remember, last week, Jacksonville Jaguars were on both of them. That sure were. Top 5-0 line and also in the Good D part, and they go get a big winner over the Chiefs. Maybe it wasn't a surprise. It wasn't.

Not if you watch the program. It wasn't a surprise, but you said, we usually talk about football. We're not talking about football. No, on that note, let's go to the top of the table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, listen, it's a great day to be a Yankees fan. And last night, it was a great night to be a sports fan.

Even if you're not a baseball fan, that was spectacular. Everything you could possibly want in a baseball game happened. We're talking ding-dongs galore. Superstars making massive plays in the environment being absolutely electrifying. Talk about the Yankees saving their season last night. And Aaron Judge, hey, don't look or double look now. Aaron Judge last night said, I'm the best player to ever walk on this damn earth. He looked like a king over there for the Yankees.

Yeah, he did. I mean, you mentioned it. You know, it was basically the perfect baseball game if you're a Yankees. Well, I shouldn't say that because I tweeted about an hour into the game. This would have been, I don't know, 9-08. And I basically said, hey, unfortunately the Blue Jays are 100 times better than the Yankees. This is just absolutely pathetic. And you'll see why Vlad Jr., once again, third game in a row, hits a home run in the first inning.

So just right away, you know, kind of the opposite of what you need. And then Ernie Clement, a guy who no one's really ever heard of, but has been a thorn in the side, and then boom, Vlad Jr. goes, Charlie Hustle. Are you kidding me? Into home plate? One of the coolest slides ever in one of the biggest games, you know, that he'll ever play in. And at this point, you're just thinking, the Yankees are dead. I mean, it's 6-1 early, like really early. So, yeah, I almost turned the game off. But then, you know, we go to the third inning, and Judge doubles down the line. The Yankees get one back, you know. But we've seen this song and dance so many times. Who cares? You're down four runs. This Blue Jay's team is going to continue to score.

Wait a minute, though. We got two guys on base in the bottom of the fourth inning, Judge up again. And here it is. I mean, this is his October moment. He absolutely blasts one down the left field line. A lot of people saying the ghosts in Monument Park kept that one fair because it was windy. He goes off the foul pole, three-run Homer to tie the game at six. And for this, like the other angles are kind of what sell this, and that's why it's so magic. Yeah, the other angles are incredible. Baseball is magic. This is from center field from the Yankees.

With the sound, please. There's the pitch. High line ball, deep left field. Down the left field line, it is off the fair pole. Hey now. Hey now, hey now. Three-run, Humber, Aaron Judge. This game is tied at 6'6.

What a moment for Aaron Judge and the Yankees fans. It's not just this one. We have one, Don, I think. Left Field line they put out, and they put out a couple other slow notes. Here's from the crowd. On a two-strike pitch. It's a drive down the line. If it's Ferrence's moment, it is.

It's time. Packed out. Covered from all angles. It's 6'6 all of a sudden in the bottom of the fourth guy, Schmidt. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, what happened later is awesome. But after that home run, you know, like, yeah, you've got to play the game out. But guess what?

Yankees are not losing this game. You see what Judge did in the dugout. A lot of people saying, hey, this guy shrinks in October. He stinks. Right after he hits his home run, he goes, he finds the camera well. He was shout out to the people. And you know what for the haters too? Yeah, I'm really fucking good at this game.

Yeah, awesome moment for Judge. But yeah, if you're a Yankees fan, hey, listen, it's early. You got to end the game here. Judge right away. Boom, next inning. Diving play, too. There's a runner on second base there, one out. If that gets down, that's definitely scoring.

another run. And then, you know, it can't just, it can't just be judged. That's been my whole thing. Jazz Chisholm, next inning. An absolute nuke with one of the sweetest bat flips you'll ever see. Yankees go up seven, six, and that was their first lead in the series thus far. So we've played a lot of baseball to that point. And then it was just, hey, just got to hold on. Fast forward to the ninth inning, the Pittsburgh kid. Dave Bednar gets Vladie Jr. To ground out. What an incredible play by Jose Cabiero. But he completes the five-out save and the Yankee win nine six they're still alive two one and we got another game tonight in new york so just riddle me this whenever it comes to the baseball when vibes are that immaculate whenever big mo's starts swinging in

your favor like it was last night obviously for the yankees and you know you got judgey giving a little double look and shout out to him doing that by the he was getting loud very loud i was maybe you know starting it up a little bit with the cow raleigh Aaron judge conversation but whenever Aaron judge is around you there is an aura that kind of radiates around him we got a chance to chat with him at the home run derby he's he's a gigantic human math. I mean, he is a huge guy. And this is a moment that is going to be talked about for a judge for a long time. On the brink of execution. Yeah. On the ledge of irrelevancy. Dancing with New York being maybe the worst baseball city of all time with the Mets not even

making the playoffs. And the Yankees getting cold swept in the first round. Aaron Judge decides to put on a Superman cape, have a massive. night. And then Jazz Chisholm, one of the most electrifying people of all time, hits a ding-dong, places going crazy. Is this one of those things that they can carry for the rest of this run to the World Series? Is this one of those nights where, yeah, they're down to one now? Is this going to change your trajectory of this team potentially in your eyes? I mean, you have to think that way, because like last game, you know, game two, they scored like eight runs, but they were getting their asses kicked the whole time. So you can't really point to that and be like, oh, here we go. Like

the bats woke up a little bit. Like last night their offense woke up, which is kind of, what we talked about yesterday when I said, like, the Yankees have a tough time winning games where they're just hitting a bunch of singles and kind of moving guys over. Like, they need guys like Judge and Jazz Chisholm and John Carlos Stanton. They need these guys to hit homers. And the Blue Jays don't have a ton of playoff experience. Like, they are a very good team. They won the AL East this year.

But like now the pressure is kind on them because coming into this series, like, they have to throw a bullpen game tonight. The Yankees get Cam Schlitler, the kid who threw eight innings and had 12. strikeouts against the Red Sox, who, like, just did it the other night. So the idea now is just, hey, okay, like, last night was always going to be very difficult because they had a legitimate, you know, starter on the hill. Tonight they don't. They, the guy who is starting the game tonight is Louis Varlane, the guy who gave up that homer to judge to even the game in the, yeah. So, like, and a bunch of guys had to pitch last night because they went to the bullpen very early.

So the Yankees have a decided advantage again today in New York. Like, and that was the other thing. as a fan all these games like it just it takes you out of it so much like I was ready to turn the game off in the third inning last night and I'm sure people in the stadium like a lot of people maybe consider in leaving your doubt 6-1 it's like hey we well no because

the stock market doesn't sleep all right and it lives in New York City the thing is they've gotten their asses beat the first two games like it hasn't been and this game is 6-1 so like you're thinking like oh they're going to get beat 12 to 2 again no heart nothing and they woke up last night and it needed to be judge.

He's been great. He's batting over 500 in the playoffs so far this year. So even if they would have gotten eliminated last night, people still would have killed him. But he's not the problem. But he needed to be the guy to kind of get this thing going back in the right direction and he was last night. So, hey, they win tonight.

Anything can happen in a game five in Toronto. Who's the manager up there? Aaron Boone. How about this guy keeping the boys motivated? How about that? That's good manager. Seren Boom Football. He almost had a disastrous decision last night that does not matter because they won.

But he challenged a catcher's interference in like the third inning when he'd already lost a challenge. Boom, no more challenges left for you. You might need those later in the game. We don't need to be burning those down five in the third inning. But it doesn't matter because they won. He kept the boys motivated. He got the boys locked in. Akear that former Super Bowl winning coach now off season ago, that means something to be able to keep the boys kind of motivated,

especially in baseball. We're not 6-1 in baseball early. We just got our asses absolutely smacked the last two games. Boone steps in there and says, boys, be like me. You know, started telling tales about the great things that he's accomplished, motivated him, kept him rallied. And Aaron Judge said, holy shit, for you, Boone, I'm going to go do this. So maybe the Yankees fans get off his back a little bit.

That's a moment for Judge because it's real easy to quit when you're down six to one. I mean, that is you're looking for any excuse to roll over. and just die at that point. If you're not a dog. He's not. Bingo. And then one guy makes that swing of the bat and the whole place just turns upside down. That's great coaching. Yes, it is.

You could say that. Unbelievable. And, you know, listen, I was killing him before the game because he tried it out the exact same lineup as they did games one and two. It was like, and they got beat by like a combined 20 runs. Like that didn't work. Maybe let's switch things up a little bit. Maybe try something new.

But Booney just said, nope, I like my guys. I'm confident in them. Everything's still out in, you know, ahead of us. which he said about 500,000 times this year when things have been going bad. So I do give him credit. That's big, but as a Yankees fan, that was awesome for Judge, but guess what? You can't lose the day. Like, you know, this is supposed to be the moment that catapults them to go on to win the

World Series this year. So hopefully that's what it does. We'll see. Shout out to baseball being awesome right now. Honestly, we are very, very grateful. And Big Dumper hit a home run to a guy that was wearing a shirt saying, hey, hit it to me, Big Dump. Yeah, dump one here, 61. And the playoffs, Kyle Raleigh, Big Dumper,

hits an absolute dinger to a guy wearing a shirt that says, hit one here, 61, which is the number. And then later would take the shirt off and say, hit 62 here. So he was just ready for it. Look at the sea around him. And he just so happens to be at the exact spot where Dumber dumps one to. After the game, obviously get a chance to meet, chit-chat,

and that's a beautiful moment. Baseball is really, we got a move. movie like outfield situation here with Dumpers fan calling his shot. We got Aaron Judge, one of the biggest stars in the game having a massive night. Baseball's doing it. Don't look now. Hot bat. Baseball swinging a hot bat.

Finally. Tonight, four more games, all elimination games. So like, same deal. You would think several of these games will hopefully deliver some moments like we had last night because I'll tell you what, when teams backs are against the wall, there's enough good players. Like, crazy stuff happens.

So if you don't have anything to do tonight, which, you know, kind of perfect. We're on Wednesday here. Kind of looking ahead to the next NFL week. Like, you get, you'd be far better pressed for, like, spending a little bit of time to maybe watch one or a couple of these games. A lot of crack into the

bats. A lot of crack into the bats. Last night also drop into the puck. Yeah. Hell yeah. Three-piece last night for the NHL's opening night, obviously highlighted by the Pittsburgh Penguins, smack around the New York Rangers. But none of the Rangers fans care because the Yankees get a massive win. So they're saying, who cares? But

I cares. Coney Crosby and the boys are back. Pittsburgh Penguins win three zip. Under the leadership of new coach, Dan Mews, that bald man. Old coach is on the other bench. Utter side? Outer side.

Yes, all he's over there. Penn's get a huge win. That's great for the NHL if Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins are irrelevant and good. It's also great for this particular program because we will talk about it a lot more if that happens. To kick off the three-piece to kick off NHL's opening night is a team that's going for a three-peat.

The Florida Panthers get a win over the Chicago Blackhawks. Congratulations, Darius Bueller. We had a similar situation, too, not the coaches, the goalies. We had our young guy, Spencer Knight and goal for the Chicago Blackhawks. We got it done. It got a little close. We got it done three, two. Didn't cover, unfortunately, for me, but the boys got it done on Banner Night, starting off one and no. And the avalanche win four to one over to Los Angeles Kings, but nobody's talking

about the score of a game. No. No. All anybody's talking about is a mallet boy bringing the hammer after. A huge shot is delivered. Fair shot right there. Fair check right there is what everybody's saying. But immediately afterwards, now, his head was down for a pass.

Teammate comes in and says, that's not how this is going to go. Yeah, and this man right here, Mallet, John, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Mallet. Mallet, yeah, dog. Do not want to fight him. We apologize for getting your first name wrong. Maybe Malott. Malott, Malit.

We apologize for all of it because we've actually watched not only film of you fighting, but this is his brother. Yup, knock out. Yeah, so this. This is a family you do not want to throw hands with. And if you're the Los Angeles Kings, thank God we got a UFC fighter on skates as our guy. And also, there's a lot of people, I guess, hockey purists, they say, that was a fair hit. Shouldn't be fighting after a fair hit.

I digress. If you're in a sport where you're allowed to get back at a guy who just absolutely demolishes and demoralizes one of your guys, you should definitely be able to do that. And if you can knock somebody out, in the middle of this fight, you see Guy actually look at the ref and go, come on, come on, come on, what are we doing here? And they take it to the ice to get it over with. Seems like that L.A. King's team has got a tight squad, okay? Now, it didn't do shit for him on Open the Night against a great Colorado team, but hockey's starting, baseball is swinging a hot bat, and football is doing its thing. And I don't know if you saw this past weekend.

There was actually a segment done by CBS, which we like to run every once in a while. Time for ladies and gentlemen, hashtag Ask J. Yeah, let's go. Right. win in an Oklahoma drill. You or T.J? Oh, me. I'm bigger. Than T.J.?

Yes. By how much? I got like 25 pounds on him still. There's pure size advantage there. It's all about low man wins also. I think he would admit to that one. He wouldn't admit to a get-off race, like the fastest off the line of scrimmage. But I think he would admit to it.

Yeah. Coming up next, ask T.J. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, the man who gave that answer, JJ won. Yay! Jage, how you doing, buddy? Do you really believe that about T.J.? Because I think he takes your old ass and breaks you in half and then does the kick. And I appreciate you answering questions like that.

You're so good at it. You're so good at it. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. You guys, I mean, we have Asked Jage and then it gets more formal Ask J.J. So it's a little loosey-goosey over here. We have our good time. and then on Sunday we put on the tie and we slick the hair back

and we do the professional game. Hair looks phenomenal. The chemistry in the booth is real. You're doing a great job calling games, even though the games might not always be the best games. How about this Texans teams? Back-to-back blowouts, obviously. They get the Titans, and then this past weekend,

they get the Ravens. I don't know how many things have been said about them this week. A lot of things, not good. They traded away a player yesterday. Addafe Owe. Yeah, I didn't want to get those wrong. I apologize. Oway, get straight away.

He's a good player. So it's like dire times in Baltimore. You obviously got a chance to chat with them whenever you're doing preparation for the game. You see them in person. Texans really good. Ravens really bad. What are your thoughts coming out of that game?

Combo of both, for sure. It was, I mean, I've played in that stadium a few times. Texans, that's their first ever win there. So I've never won there. And anybody who's played there knows. Like the Ravens, that place, it's just a, you expect to go in there and have a violent, physical, tough football game where the offense is going to hit you in the mouth, the defense is going to play strong ball, the crowd's going to be good.

And I was saying it in our pregame a little bit, even day games kind of feel like night games there just because of the black and the purple and the defense and just the aura of the place. And this game was none of that. This game, after about halftime, maybe a little later, but not even, felt like a preseason game. And the fourth quarter really felt like a preseason game. And it's just, the Ravens are depleted on injuries. There is zero question about that. They have a ton of injuries all over.

I think almost half of their salary cap was on the bench for this game. But Kyle Van Nuys said himself, look at the 49ers. They have a bunch of injuries. They don't complain. You've got to find a way in this league. And it was a very, very poor product, unfortunately. And for them, crazy, they're still the favorite, betting favorite to win the AFC North, but they got to figure it out quickly here. The buy week next week is going to be

massive for them. Okay, so let's talk about the AFC North. The Pittsburgh Steelers are on a buy. Everybody around them in the AFC North takes an L, and then there's a quarterback swap from one part of Ohio to the next. There's full chaos in the AFC North right now, and it's not what we expected it to be. How do you feel about Flacco getting traded over to the Bengals from the Cleveland Browns? And what are your thoughts on him potentially beating the Packers twice this season? And then next Thursday, he's got the Pittsburgh Steelers and an AFC North rivalry game that he knows a lot about because he's played for every team. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty crazy. I think if he happened to beat the Packers twice,

that would be just an unreal story. He's already had so many cool moments in his career. I do think that any time you see an inter-division trade, especially at the most important position in the league, that's something that should perk your eyes and ears up because you don't just try and help out an opponent within your division that you're trying to beat. So there is some interesting aspects to that. But the Bengals are clearly just trying

to somehow, some way, scrap and claw their way to the point where Joe Burrow gets back. Because they know what he's capable of and they know that if they can just scrape out a few wins and put themselves in position to have a chance, once he comes back, they'll be all right. And Blacko certainly

he's done it before. He's done it before. He went out of the Off the couch, through the Browns, led them to the playoffs, which is why I think Stefansky brought him back this year, after a year with the Coltset, did not go great, other than the fact that he got to wear really cool cleats on coconut husk grass. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Curf over here in Indianapolis. He goes back to Cleveland. Obviously, that quarterback room had a lot of conversation going into the year because the third round pick in Dylan Gabriel, fifth round pick in Shador Sanders. Super Bowl champion, Kenny Pickett, was in there at one point, and Joey Flacco, was named starter of them all. Shador Sanders was kind of attacked by cameras or Shador Sanders was at an event with a lot of cameras

that were at it. We don't know what it was but he was at a car dealership so it might have been an event where he was doing something giving back who knows what all he was doing and there was a good three cameras shoot 8K cameras Oh yeah, nice. He looked very good in these shots live from the car dealership's lobby and he said all like everything he said was like

thanks to Joe I appreciate Joe I leaned on Joe Joe Joe helped me. I talked to him after the trade. We talked about how quick it was. That was wild. And then he just kind of moved on. It was like he gave the perfect answer for the situation. And I think that quarterback room has dealt with this all pretty well. And Joe Flacco obviously being a 45-year vet, and the way he acts and talks, like I'm not their uncle. Like I think he has helped with that entire room. And any success that they have from there, I think they will give credit to Joe, just like a lot of places have in this kind of journeyman career that Joe Flacco has had.

Is it going to work for the Bengals, though? I don't know if they can block anybody. True. Don't think they can. Yeah. Well, Joe Flacco back, they're going to have to. But, well, footsteps, you know, you've got to be careful. He can move a pretty decent amount.

But if they can protect them just a little bit, if they can just let Joe Flacco just get that thing from here to here. Exactly. There's a chance of that high-powered offense, yeah. Yeah, sure. There's a lot of weapons out there. Oh, my God. There's a number one.

There's another number one. How many number ones are we got around here? I didn't know that. It's like I go to a fast food. I'll take two number ones. Yeah, he got that here. And since that, this is Joe Flacko's thinking this is the best time of his entire life. Got Green Bay Packers.

I already know this team. Yeah. I already beat this team. Exactly. No, I threw for 140 yards. Still. But you see the man's the game? Yeah, you see the old minute drive to go in and win a game?

You tell me, we'll just do that for the whole game. So Joe's already got to figure it out. What was the last time we had a team trade in their division? A quarterback at that. was it Donovan McAbb Oh man that's on the spot Washington

Yeah Hmm That might be it actually That might be the only one Did you hear what tone just said? Yeah I did Everybody just heard of it Yeah

That's actually a great That's good thought That's a good thought from tone Donne you just said that Sorry it's inside joke right now For four of us Because tone is in hammer Don't

What did you say AQ was talking to me this morning and he thought that Joe might retire today. Why? Why would he do that? Just because he got traded to the Bengals and just say, no more, I'm not doing it? Listen, when you're 40 years old,

you go to Cleveland, and you think you're going to be the number three, the number four, the mentor in the room, and then all of a sudden you're starting, and you're like, okay, well, this is great, but I'm in Cleveland. And then they trade you to Cincinnati, even worse scenario.

You've got no offense line, no blocking. Don't be surprised. Wednesday practice, an hour and a half from now. I'm not, dude. I'm done. It's pretty jerseys. Press off the print. They're saying that's what Amari Cooper did when he saw

Grino Smith throw a slant route in the training tank. That's what I saw on the internet, and that's for shoot. Yeah, I understand. I understand that. That is for shoot, but there's a lot of people. I mean, Jamar Chase was their second leading tackler in the game this weekend. Good.

He's a great athlete. He walked in backwards to score touch. Joe Flacco saw that. So there was either that mindset that he's like completely done with all the shits or it's Joe Flacko saying, I can take his step in the Super. Chris is always greener over here. Yes, it is right over there. especially with everything they have.

Let's talk about some other situations brewing, especially for a place you used to call home and a team you used to play for. Go ahead, A-Q. Yeah, I'm not sure if you saw the end of the Arizona Cardinals game, the entire second half. It was an epic collapse. And just wanted to get your thoughts on the second half of that game.

Great question. Yeah, yeah, man. So I was in the booth, obviously, on Sunday, doing our game. And then on the flight home, I started checking to see, you know, what's going on in the rest of the games around the league, and you see the Cardinals are up, and then you start to see the lead dwindle a little bit, and you're like, oh, man, the Titans are making a little run here. And then I get home and I see all the videos, and man, it was just a tough, tough,

ending with the fumble at the goal line, with the snap hitting in the head, and then with the interception returned for a touchdown. I mean, think about this Cardinals team. They have lost three games by a total. Not each game, a total of five points in those three games. They've lost them all on the last play game. They are literally three plays away or three missed final field goals away from being five and oh. And instead, they're now being talked about like this with these types of comedy of errors plays going on.

And it is, it's just brutal, man. Obviously, for my former team and a team that I have so many friends on that I want to see do so good, this was painful to see. I think this is still a touchdown. No, I think... I don't disagree with you there. And I don't think anybody cares because it's like, can't do it.

Can't even be that close. You can't do it. I agree. Especially in that situation. So I think that is why maybe the football gods were just like, nope, not giving it to them,

and then everything else that took place takes place. Feels like this could set up for a dangerous Cardinals team? No. Like dangerous, like as in it explodes and like everybody starts hating

each other and they all just quit on the season. Well, you got Gannon getting fined to honor and ran. Yeah. And last time that happened, Bruce Harris. Exactly. You slap somebody in the head. In this moment, obviously, that we showed yesterday,

I don't know if Billy O and J.J. Watts fight at practice got anything. But this moment that we showed yesterday was the reason for $100,000 fine can't happen. You know, the first one, who knows what he's saying, he can't do it. The second one, obviously, optically in 2025, the NFL does not want to have happen on the sideline of a football game. And, you know, old school coaches, B.A. was actually here yesterday. What was he supposed to do? it's like all right well there's a lot of other answers these days he gets fine for that everybody's calling him a laughing stock you know everybody's getting attacked in that building

and they have maybe the best team of football this weekend in a lot house oh no yeah the Indianapolis coach or the cock of the walk brother I don't know if you know that Danny dime's everything he's doing good everything Shane Steik can doing great Tyler Warren might be the best player in football honestly could probably play him in multiple positions we're only using them at one right now actually three right now, putting him at a tight end, putting him in a wide out. He's also a fullback, running back, and I think he's taking a snap. So maybe five positions he's played for us already.

This guy is remarkable. Jonathan Taylor is going to score two, three touchdowns a week throughout the rest of the season, and the defense will Lou Anirumo smother it. Okay, we're all over the place, and we're getting the ball. And Carly Ursay, one of the big three, one of the owners, I had a chance to chat with her before the game whenever she was coming to visit me and my wife's Corgi Chuck, and she certainly had some opinions on how fat chalk kind of was. And that was one of her first things is, hey, we got to take care of that.

But she said, hey, the defense was very confident in the fact that we're going to get some turnovers today because the trajectory or where Gino chooses to throw, we got guys. We got guys in good spots. So game plan was to actively create turnovers. And we also say cross is getting to the quarterback like every other place. So we're sending pressure. It's like the Colts are fun to watch. They're explosive, offensive, and defensively.

We got a great punter. It doesn't really have to do anything. And then our field goal kicker, we just signed the Money Badger. Michael Badgley back to the team is pretty good. The Colts are dominant. But this Cardinals team, they've been mocked and ridiculed. Literally by everybody, all parties, including the NFL saying, clown behavior, bro, $100,000 fine.

Can't have it happen. On that note, Debutt has a question for you, Judge. Yeah, I mean, they are with that game, though. They are familiar with each other. Gannon and obviously Stichens on that Super Bowl. staff. It is much different offense with Danny Dimes running and Jalen Hertz.

But how do you see the state of the AFC South right now? A lot of expectations were not there for the Colts coming into the season, maybe a little higher for the Texans. And I don't think they were there for the Jags either. You have the Colts and Jacks sitting up there at the top. Houston.

It looked like they're kind of finding their form and then Tennessee, who knows what's going on there. But what's your overall opinion on the state of the AFC South? Yeah. First, we have to address Chuck. Is there a plan? Are we trying to get Chuck in shape? Do we have any sort of program in place?

Yeah, we start them in a stumpy stampede race. See if he likes it, enjoys it. Oh, my goodness, man. Those legs are doing a lot of work. Yeah, dude, it's bad. No, he's got good joints, this guy. He's literally a tank. I thought you said you're taking him in for your doggo deduction.

Kind of get all that stuff out. I was looking for some dog hogs, big for him. Sure. But the thing about it is, his body rejected it. No, I don't want it. This is who he is.

Beat it. I think he was a little bit perturbed by what was going on, didn't necessarily know where to head. My wife, who he certainly likes and loves a lot more than me,

was down at the finish line because in theory, that's the right move. Chuck obviously couldn't pay attention long enough to find it. Yeah, he couldn't. The other corgis were able to find there. And then obviously you got to assist him a little bit

and make sure he gets through a finish line. This is one shot in a moment here. Okay, I go and grab him. He's building. He's building. like an ottoman, bro. He's built like an ottoman. Wow.

Jay-J. Hey, man. Wow. That's not that's not fair. I mean, I'm sorry. You nailed it. Like a body pillow. The issue is, the issue is

his body will collapse if I was to put my legs on his back. It is at max capacity right now that body. And this is just the first. Is Chuck a table fooder? Is he a table food? To be honest, yeah, he'll eat some of ours. I'm not, I think he does a majority of his eating, like, maybe middle of the day.

Because at night, I don't think, I don't see him eating much. Like, he doesn't eat a lot of our food. So I think he potentially gets stuff like a pork or he has, like a pig, or he has no metabolism. Yeah, okay. When we got him, he was big. We got him, he was big, big bodied, big boned. He had been, obviously, Corgi's the whole, he was in a, camp or a dog store for a long time he was by far the most mature dog in the store nobody wanted

this thing okay nobody wanted that's crazy i didn't know i genuinely wonder why and then once i meet him i'm like this guy's a stubborn prick that is that is certainly why i assume whenever people get him out and like play with him he was just maybe the worst of all time it's an asshole yeah just complete so him and my wife have built up a great relationship but i will say he has been bigger than thought corgis were since the day he entered our house. Now, certainly he's certainly gotten bigger and those little arms do get a

they do get a little bit like this, but that's also potential because the nerves, you know, are being cut off by his fat on the entire thing. So we're trying, Jage, we're trying. I love it. I love it. I'll get back to Debuts question now. I think the AFC South with the Texans starting to figure it out, but I mean, I don't think there's

many people outside of Jacksonville or Indianapolis who saw it going this way, this well, this early. with Liam Cohen coming into Jacksonville and being able to turn it around so quickly massive win against Kansas City and it's one of those things where I said it to somebody yesterday

confidence is a crazy mistress you start to figure it out you start to believe in yourselves some of these plays that used to be a comedy of errors turn around and turn into a positive for you as an organization and the more that belief grows the more that confidence grows

all of a sudden everybody starts playing a little bit better the ball starts bouncing your way 99-yard pick-sixes are on your terms instead of the other team's terms. So the Colts really crushing it right now. I mean, you turn on that game halfway through it. We flipped on the score and, like, wow, crushing the Raiders. So I'm looking forward. I might have a chance here in the near future to check out a Colts game,

and I would really enjoy that because I want to see what they're all about and how they're doing. And then the Texans. Texans start to figure it out. Titans kind of gifted a win there, so they're in the W column. AFC South. On that note, here's some stats about the AFC South. Here's win-loss record against other

divisions, non-division games this season, win-loss and the points differential. AFC South, 8 and 6 plus 80. That's a lot of the Colts. Coults right now are plus a huge amount. AFC West, 6 and 8, AFC North, 5 and 10, AFC is 3 and 7. You tell us. Everybody's talking about the AFC South is a laughing stock.

Ride our coat tails. Yeah, you're welcome, AFC. Remember all the good quarterbacks at the top? Oh, yeah. Danny Diamond's one of them. Boom. Just like we said it would. Now, fascinating how good the Colts we can.

Yeah. Like, legitimately. That's all they needed. Almost otherworldly. Yeah. Three positions. Three, four positions we added. QB, corner, safety.

Yep. Right? We just signed Pratt yesterday. Pratt was on the Raiders. Okay, he was on the Bengals for a long time with Lou Anerumo. Then he was on the Raiders for the first five weeks of the season. Last week before playing the Indian Indianapolis Colts, non-injured, kind of taken off.

Then we sign them. So I have no idea what happened there. Palm T's here, though. Yes. To have them here. But then on the offensive side, it's like, Quentin Nelson's become more of a leader. I don't know.

A lot of people are going to be like, see what the Colts were able to do overnight, basically. It's been crazy to experience it, JJ. This has not been predictable, I think. I blindly was saying it. But everybody was laughing at me, and I potentially maybe only half believed it. Sure.

But on that note, we have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's that? All of a sudden, you were the chief believer. You weren't even renewing your ticket. Believe R. I was a Believe R, brother. Yeah, A-R at the end.

Remember? I think I created the term, believe R. Because I was. I went through the off-season. I re-evaluated my views on the team with the people that I care about that work at the team. And I said, you know what? What am I going to do? Not be a Colts fan?

Yeah, right. And the people that are wearing the, uniforms right now, aren't going to be wearing the uniforms forever. So we'll be here after that. So let's remember that. You know, did that whole thing. Then I buy the tickets back. And then we bring in Danny Dimes.

I'm like, okay, maybe there's a shot here. I can see it. Now we get, now we start to, AR started showing up early, start doing the shit before practice, before everything. I'm like, hold on now. If we have AR maximum A.R., I'm a believer. And if we got Dimes time, okay, I can, I can buy Gardner Minshu almost took us that playoffs.

That's right. Then we bring in a couple guys on defense. defense aside, and we still got good trade pieces. Great. Before the trade deadline, we can still make some plays, I think. So, yeah, I was donning out on the people wearing the uniforms and the pads because of how they're representing the things they had been doing and the way they've been acting and talking and portraying a lot of things. But they've got to live there.

Is that a double ring? I got to ask. I just noticed this for the first time. Can I get the meaning of the double ring? Okay, so silica or rubber wedding ring, obviously, because I don't want to get the high. Yeah, right. And then this is baby girl's hair tie, one of her hair ties. Ah, nice. See that? That's nice.

Could be pink or baby blue, but I think that's too loud. So just kind of put it here, you know, in the entire thing. I like that. I'm a good, hey, I got a good ponytail. Nice tight pony tail. Yeah, I got a good ponytail. I used to have it long hair, so I know you got to go from the bottom, you know, because whenever that ship bunches up in there, it thought you don't get it all,

because there's going to be pieces falling out of the bottom. So you've got to get that thing all the way up here. flyers tighten these things up all right go say what's up to mom yeah yeah and then all of a sudden from down the hallway I did that ponytail bragging about it so that's what that is brother that's what that is

Colts of the real deal a team that might not be the real deal in the AFC East is having problems all over the place go ahead Ty Schmidt Yeah Jage what the hell's going on with the Jets defense It seems like every year that's kind of the one thing you can hang your hat on. Everyone always talks about how good they are, and then they get Aaron Glenn, and he assures everyone he's going to turn it around, and it just really

hasn't looked like that. Now, granted, it does seem like the Jets are losing about 12 to 15 fumbles per game, so I don't know if that's necessarily helping out the defense, but what the hell's going on here, and is this going to get fixed anytime soon? Man, you know, we did a Jets preseason game, and we did the Jets in week one, and you talked to Aaron Glenn, everybody in the organization, and you just, you definitely have a sense of that, like, all right, they're very locked in. This is pure football. They're going to go out there and they're going to fix all the issues that the Jets have had in the past. I mean, the one stat right now that's blowing my mind, and I'm like, I've asked like two or three people to check this because

zero turnovers in five games. Like the defense hasn't even accidentally fallen on a ball that the other team dropped. Like there hasn't been a ball that's bounced up in the air. Like, that is, I think it's the only time since 1933 that's ever happened, five games to start a season with zero takeaways. I mean, like, you guys have played. Like, people just drop the ball by running into the line of scrimmage sometimes. Or the ball will bounce off a face mask and up into the air and you can grab one.

So I guess that's a little bad luck in addition to not being able to get them, but I hope they turn it around. I let them when the New York teams are good, it's fun for everybody. and they just are currently not good. Don't want to remind everybody of this because where the Detroit lines are right now. Foxy, what was your guys' record first year, MCDC? Started out 0 and 10, and then gear two started out 1 and 6,

and that's when everything changed. And remember, the MCDC cried whenever they got a win. Everybody's like, what a loser this guy. And all he kept saying was like, I've seen it every day, man. They're getting better than working. They haven't been, you know, paid off for the work that they've put in. I wonder if Aaron Glenn feels the same way. Like, hey, it's not good right now, but we got to build here.

We've got to build a culture, and will they have enough patience? You talk about whenever a New York team is good, it's good. But when you're bad in New York, too, it's very much like that. There's no question that the pressure is cooked so much higher when you're in that New York market. And I think it also is very tough when you see a brand new head coach like Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville. Big win over the Kansas City Chiefs Monday night. He's got that team four and one. And you're sitting there as a New York fan and you're like, okay, I'm believing in you guys.

I'm trusting the process. I'm understanding it takes time. we have to fully turn this culture around but then you flip on your TV Monday night and you're like, well, wait, wait, wait, they're in a very similar situation and they turn it around so fast so it's tough. I completely get it.

I don't disagree on the Detroit point and the Dan Campbell point. Sometimes you have to weed out a lot of issues and turn it around but it's tough when you look across at the neighbor and you see the grass growing real nice and green. Well, the good news for him is the Giants don't seemingly have that going on this year and they

haven't for a while. On that note those two teams are in a conversation a little bit different bangles have been in this conversation the ravens have slipped into that conversation as maybe not this year teams everybody else seemingly in it connor has a question for you jage yeah jays it feels like this year the teams that we thought were going to be really good again like the ravens a few others the bangles the injuries are kind of there the Texans though would fall under that as someone you kind of thought was going to run away with it but there's these teams kind of coming out of nowhere i'm not going to throw the pastures in just yet but the colts you know the jails you know the james

Jags be informed. It's all right to feel good about yourself. I feel good about it. I feel, let's not go there yet, though. James, let's stay focus here. How about the league? Are you pumped about the parody? I feel like we all are very excited about seeing some new teams

toward the top of their divisions, at least early on. Do you think this is going to continue for the rest of the season? I'm pumped about the parody. I love, I think this is the best thing that the NFL has going about it is the way that it's all designed with the draft, with free agency. with the waiver wire, with the way they set up the schedule. It's so much fun tuning in every week, knowing that you don't know exactly what's going to happen,

and anybody can win any game. The Pats versus the Bills, great game, and really enjoyed watching that. So it has been enjoyable. I do think that the cream eventually rises to the top over time, and people figure it out, and the best talent along with the best coaching, will get to the top.

But it's fun. It's a whole lot of fun. I mean, you have the Browns beating the Packers. that's probably the biggest one we've seen so far this year in terms of surprises. Joe Flacco, but you feel good about your Pats, man. That was a huge win for the Pats, and Drake May does seem like he's got that factor

where he can step up in those situations and lead his team, and you put the right team around him, and Mike Brable gets them operating on all cylinders and cleaning up some of the execution and the penalties and things. They really do have a solid setup. I mean, not to mention, too, we're kind of approaching that territory where some of those good teams that are actually poopy might start fire sailing. And I don't want to go there, but we got kind of three games we should win going forward for New England.

So an A.J. Brun, maybe a Derek Henry, perhaps they might be available. And also, a little side note. I saw this on X right before. The paths were all blue this week. Next week, they are all white. I believe that is a shot at the Buffalo Beals. I don't know if it's a shot. Or if it's just...

Took your chain, bitch! I like that. Our jersey's there! I like the Vraibs. Did not take him lost. I didn't want to get to have himself said, don't get out of ourselves, and I was screaming into the microphone right now.

That was 45 seconds. It was your fault, brother. You're the one that was like, you should feel good about your team. He does feel good. And earlier today, whenever he was laying out the... AJ Brown might be...

Who's he got history with? Who was mad whenever he got trailed out of Tennessee? Oh, Vrabel. Oh, who else might be on a team that not that great this year? but they're going to pay a lot of money. Who are you sending to the Eagles? Who are you sending to the Eagles for A.J. Brown?

Who are we sending to the Eagles for A.J. Brown? Well, hold on. Okay. We can take his whole entire contract, so let's get that off the books. And then, I don't know, we could probably send them like a key on White, pass rusher, rookie on a young contract. And then when you think about the Ravens with Derek Henry, if they're just kind of punted on it,

then we can send them from Andre Stevenson right back. Hey, you still get a good running back, but clearly you're not going to go to the playoffs this year. Why don't we just take Derek Henry? off your hands. A.J. Bryant, you want to catch passes that aren't, you know, thrown up. You don't have to play defense on Devante Smith anymore. Brother Drake May will actually throw you the football, even though stats would say that they are still throwing him to football this year. He's just not catching it. Well, Hembo would say that the targets to AJ Brown

are the same as they were last year. And A.J. Brown might say, I'm not doing this again. And allegedly there was a conversation, A.J. Brown, Jalen Hertz, and Selein Barkley, a long one. Jimmy Kempski covers the Eagles. I'm told Jailen Hurts, A.J. Brown, and Saquan and Barclay had a long positive conversation. Lasted a couple hours. Maybe they do this every week, though. I hope they have conversations. What the hell?

They're on the same team, dude. Yeah, but I think the implication was, hey, there's a lot of drama, seemingly. They're four-and-one football team. They're Philadelphia. Who told Jimmy Kempski that? Who told him that? He's plugged in that.

There's three people in the conversation. Who told him? So Jimmy Kemsky has somebody in the hallway, looking for the door to open, and then there's only three of them and then immediately to Jim right that was an hour long or that was multiple hours long and it was positive it was very positive I could tell that

ear on wall person laughing a joke in there ha ha ha ha ha are you watching a movie it's been a long time and then sees them leave they're laughing and smiling seem positive Jim let it fly think they're watching a movie I do wonder you know how they balance this year

always drama in Philadelphia for whatever reason I think it's because it's the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach Siriani, there's some stat that we just read and found. He averages the most points for the first 50 games as a head coach in NFL history. It's like him, Sean Payton, Mike Marrott, MCDC, and McCarthy. Yeah, yep. They all average like 26.7 points a game. And all we in the media and everybody who's done is this offense stinks, man.

What's this guy do? This guy's got no idea. The reigning Super Bowl champs are 4-1 right now. Got the best record in all the ball and all anybody wants them to do is hopefully fall apart. That's classic Philadelphia Eagles. as it feels like. That's right. And they're strong enough to survive.

We hope they certainly will. JJ, what game do you have this weekend? This weekend, I have the Browns at the Steelers, AFC North Battle. You're calling a lot of your brother's games. A lot of them. It turns out that the second best AFC game on CBS every week

generally does tend to involve Pittsburgh Steelers while they're sitting at 3-1. Yes, there have been quite a few. It's his birthday Saturday, so I'm looking forward to seeing him on his birthday. Oh, a birthday game for T.J. Got to take that into account for sure, especially with big bro up in the booth. Every time you're up there, he does well.

I mean, last game he had, the Patriots game, he had two stacks. Hey, let's make sure we're non-biz. First game wasn't great. Don't be getting too excited. Okay, up there whenever T.J. I'm excited, dude. I mean, we got Miles Garrett and T.J. Watt in the same game. It's going to be great.

There's incredible pass rush in this game. And the Brown's rookies are crazy. rushing it. Brown's rookie draft, like they're not getting enough credit. I mean, they're getting a lot of credit, but this rookie draft class, they're killing it. You put in respect on the pass rushers, I think is a good thing from the booth. Obviously, it's one of the most important positions in all the ball, especially because it can wreck a game. But I'll tell you what, there's some other things wrecking some games. Let's head over to Hammer. Don, Don. Is this still football tone? Yeah, T, or sorry, whoa. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, geez. That's Billy

I mean, Pat threw you a no look tossed. He literally no look tossed you a lead, and then you do that bullshit. He didn't mean it, Derek. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Listen, AJ.

Oh, stop. That's a mistake. I was, I'm asking about TJ and I'm asking about Miles because you had just brought them up, and you, uh, I know you were interested in those two just horrendous roughing the passer calls this weekend. Uh, one for the Saints, and then one, uh,

On the box, like, what is going on, Jage? Right there. This is bullshit is what's going on. And today, Wednesday is usually around, maybe Thursday is around when we find out about the fines. And if either of these two were fined, we need to have a very serious, loud, public conversation. But this is just, the second one, like the only thing I can see about that Buccaneers one is leading into it. He did kind of dip his head a little bit, which I can see the ref when he leave with the crown. your helmet even though he ended up pulling off i can kind of see that i mean it's still very soft in my

opinion but that first one in the saints man it's like he's standing up straight he's hitting them basically body to body he rolls off he pulls his hands away like i i don't know what you want a defensive guy to do you literally can't not take the guy to the ground any more than that and if you want to say well his helmet his face mask raised the back of his helmet it's like okay so you don't want to say him high you don't want to see him low you it would have been 10 times more hurtful if he just spears him in the back here. This is about the best possible way you can lay a quarterback down and we're still throwing flags on it. I mean, somebody's got to stand up for the defensive guys here.

This is just bullshit. And that's a 15-yard penalty that now moves them 15 yards forward, automatic first down, all that type of shit. Takes a sack away from this guy. Like, just give me a break. I'm sick of it. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J. J. J. J. Watt. J. J. J. Thanks for doing that, Jage. Hey, baby, Jake. I hate it. Better than you.

Because they've been trying to change that rule to make it like still football, but also let's not take out quarterbacks are the most important position. We had how many different quarterbacks play that one year? 90 or 60 or something like that? I forget what it was. Yeah, high 60s. Yeah, I think it was like 68. So they've been trying to adapt the rule.

I think Ben Rotherberger or Carson Palmer, I mean, whenever he was with the Bengals, there was like a crawling thing that happened to him against Pittsburgh Steelers, changed rule. Tom Brady had something. I hadn't changed the rule. Then there was a third thing. throwing, a slinging type rule

that was there. Full body control, but don't put your body weight. You can't go through the ground. There's a strike zone. You're not allowed to hit. You're not allowed to hit. So there's been a lot of rules to try to create the perfect way to tackle the most valuable piece on a football field in the quarterback position. And inevitably,

it's always just a judgment call by the refs that are on the field. Like you saw that guy staring down the, he literally just kind of gives him like a chest bump to his back though. Yeah, like that's literally running full speed. And like I wanted to That was throwing the flag. I wanted to give the rest the benefit of the doubt and say,

oh, he just saw it immediately and threw it. But, like, take time. Why is the flag coming out so fast? Take a second. See what happened. And then be like, oh, he actually didn't do anything bad. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, that flag is on the ground as they're still just hitting the ground.

Take a second. See that he rolled off. It's like performing acrobatics. Now, I believe that there are a lot of roughing the passers that are legit. high, low, whatever. We'll play by your rules. But when we're trying to play by your rules, and we're trying to do what you want us to do,

give us a break. For the price sake. I mean, just please give us a break. Like, we're doing our best. You pull off and you pull your hands away. Like, buddy, I'm clearly not trying to do anything bad here. I don't want a $50,000 fine and a 15-yard penalty. You know how badly I want this sack?

It's so hard to get. I want it so badly. Don't take it away from me. And then the other thing, okay, then there's this. So if you're going to get a pal, anyway, rock him. Just to, like, go back there and lay them out because you're going to get one anyway. Yeah, if they're going to throw the flag on a belly chest bump through a back, you might as well just go ahead and lean that thing forward.

Because I think what they saw was the helmets were at the same height, maybe, from where they're at. So they just assumed that this had to be contact to the helmet. Instead, it's literally just a slap to the back. And it kind of, maybe the nice, if you were to grab them and put them down, which you'll hear some defensive people get on TV, what do you want us to do? pick them up and pull them down, you want us to tuck them in whenever they're down there? Like, what do you expect from us?

Such a pivotal play. And you talk about legacies and legends and everything like that. Losing sacks, getting fined. Clay Matthews lost a bunch of sacks and got fined a bunch. James Harrison, I think, was like the picture of the new version of tackling football. I think he got over a million dollars. It's not funny for James Harrison, obviously. I am not saying that.

But in this transition era of trying to figure out what the rules are, there are some people that pay the price. And obviously, we don't have it right yet, J.H is what you're saying. What's the rules of strikes on? I think we should. I think we got to start publishing ref stacks. I know they're out there somewhere, the stats, because we used to get them every week in our meetings, which is cool.

But maybe we just got to start, like, I mean, little accountability going both ways there, you know. That's all we're looking for. Yep. You're the man, Jage. What's the hat? You guys are the men. Minnesota North Stars.

I just like the hat. Mike Medi Dock. It is. getting flashbacks and Medano and Bazzle McCrae. Okay, I like what you're doing. I really like what you're doing. Did you watch the NHL opening night last night? See the Pittsburgh Penguins?

That's it? I didn't catch it, but I heard you talking about it. Shout out Ryan Smith. Mammoth crushed their rebranding, phenomenal. Good for them. A lot of good logos, a lot of good brands. He's pretty good. Pickable, too, you guys playing that super duper secret game.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's really cool. You get invited to these things. Must be nice to be JJ. Wow. Wow. And that's why hashtag Ash Jage. Exactly. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.

How are the teams? Burnley and Español. We went in still? We had a rough weekend. We had a rough weekend. Oh, yeah. Minnesota North Star's hat on told us that story. He didn't. Shouldn't even have asked. All right. We were lazy gentlemen J.J.J.J.W. All right, A. Kuzh, let's do your big takeaways coming out of week five. These are three things that you think deserve to be

chatted about a little bit more. What's the first one that you think should be chatted about Akew. Made for the moment. Wow. That's clever. Drake May, obviously special. We saw him on Sunday night football against Buffalo Bills. What did you see, AQ? Yeah, he's unbelievable. Drake May is the future of this league, and let's take a look at these. I picked four plays from this game. All of them are throws that he makes on the run. This first one, play action, roll out to the right. Nothing there, nothing there, nothing there. Boom. Perfect strike where only his guy can catch it. Unbelievable. They say incomplete. That was complete. Let's watch this one again.

Watch the guy over the center. Look at that. Coffee House. Feels the pressure. Roll right. Yep. There it is again. Unbelievable throw. The accuracy on the run that he had showed is unbelievable. Let's watch this one. Here we go again. Snap the ball. He's going to roll to the right. Here it is. Feels the pressure off the left. Roll to the right. I mean, you guys talked about this. This is as good a ball as you are ever going to see. So now, just quick question, they're all going to force him left, right? This is the thing. You will try to. That's the same thing with Jayton Daniels. That's a big thing. If he goes right, rather just picking up with his legs

or making throw. I mean, that's most right-handed quarterbacks. Some of them can do the damage going left as well, but yeah, that's... What was it? Baker, they were talking about. Baker was always running to his right, running to his right. So they have guys, like, basically bring pressure and then loop around and hand up because they thought they were going to be able to block it. This is just part of trying to get a book on

somebody, I think. What Drake has proven, what you were showing here is, rolling to his right, he might be the best quarterback in football. And look how strong he is here. Dayquan Jones, 300 pounds, right on him. Stiff arm, enough wear with all to find Diggs again. I mean, he's unbelievable.

What's the second Akech takeaway from week five, brother? Mayfield Mayhem. Whoa. Okay. And it's really funny that you just talked about Baker Mayfield only being able to go to his right. Let's watch this first play. Okay. No, this was his rookie year.

I was talking. Play action, roll to the left. Look at this ball. That is the hardest thing to do as the right-handed quarterback. Roll to your left, throw back across your body. Perfect ball. Let's look at the next play. Here we go again.

Baker Mayfield. finds Egbuka in the hole. This ball, I mean, this is as good of a quarterback game as you're ever going to see. He played out of his mind. Third one, look at this little skinny seam route to Igbuka again. We got him later on in the show. Look at this.

Drops it in a bucket. And I love the view from behind. And then, okay, cool. We hit some out routes. We hit this route. We hit the play action. Let's send this thing 65 yards in the air again to the rookie phenom. Emeka, Buka.

He'll be joining us here in about, 35 minutes or so. I cannot wait to catch up with him. What a special start to his NFL career. He has had down there in Tampa. I said this week, Baker Mayfield, MVP comes here. Let alone him still chirping with fans.

I like everything about what he's doing down there. And what's the third thing that needs to be chatted about? Easy as EASESTA. Nailed out. Easy Ezra. Ezra Cleveland comes down from Minnesota a couple years ago, solidifies this Jaguars offensive line.

Let's talk about that. So right there when he is on the ground. If we can go back real quick, Trevor Lawrence, when he's on the ground, they are trying to keep him contained on the pocket. He cannot escape through the B gap as long as he holds the edge. Ezra Cleveland, boom! puts his ass on the ground, opens it up. Trevor Lawrence, through the B gap, winter, winter chicken dinner.

He races the edge that's easy as the Jacksonville Jaguars have a little heat to him this year. Big time. They're a real team. They're in the trenches top five. They're in everything DB, good and bad D. I mean, there's real things. things brewing down there in Duval and the NFL is obviously incredibly fantastic. We're lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day.

We also tried to cover news that we feel is good for people to learn, potentially provide a little bit more context. On Monday, we learned of a video that was made publicly available by Karen Lacey's lawyer. In it, what we thought showed more context to the accident that inevitably led to the tragic loss of two lives, with Herman Hall, who dies in a car accident, and then Karen Lacey. who later ends up killing himself because of the fallout of everything in which he was accused. We thought we had more context. Now more video has been made publicly available and it shows even more context where

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Terms Apply, new episodes Tuesdays. Football! It is magical. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it, but it's not just football happening around our glorious sports world. Hockey's taking place. It dropped puck last night, three star-studded games to kick off in NHL season. That always starts much earlier than we expect, but once it does, there's an opportunity each and every night

that there's a game to turn on something magical, something electrifying, something that will dazzle you and then also entertain you, And then there's a chance a UFC fighter's brother is going to settle a score whenever somebody is checked a little bit too hard on the ice on opening night. Hop, pow, right in the kissa is a hockey thing that happens. And I think it's a reason why a lot of people potentially like the sport. It's old school. It has a lot of tradition.

And if you hit my guy, you are going to get punched in the face. And the refs aren't going to stop it. The reps are actually going to tell everybody, get out of the way, let the boys figure this out. Okay, then they'll stick tap, they'll chirp, and then what you'll see in between the whistles is a sport that is so damn hypnotizing with how fast it is and how much talent there is. Hockey's on the rise and it should be. The NHL season has started last night. There's two more games this evening, and the MLB playoffs. No, you could say the MLB playoffs, I think.

I think you can let that one slide. These baseball people telling me, I can't. Well, fuck them. You can say the MLB playoffs. I didn't say that. I did. I did. All-Star. That's a good point. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen from the talk to the table at

Boston Corner and All-Star, Tosh Smith. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, 12-year NFL vet in Super Bowl champion. A.J. Hawkes here in Ty, baseball last night was, what's that? What's that? What's that? Oh, my gosh. I'm so sorry that happened. We're just mixing up all the initials. Shut up your, T.J. That's 100% on me.

Thank you, Shepley, 12-year Super Bowl champion player coach. I apologize. Baseball last night, though, was the topic of discussion. Hockey had some moments, obviously, opening night. The Pittsburgh Penguins undefeating. Mike O' perfect this year, new coach, damn used, baldhead. He literally came in after the game and said, all right, turn on the music and let's get on the road. See you guys next game.

That's a beautiful thing. We like that as a veteran team. But the Yankees game last night stole the show. And I think even if this game was up against NFL games, I think people would still be finding themselves checking back in. the electricity that oozed from this particular night could potentially carry us all the way through October in baseball. It was everything that was good with baseball.

Massive balls, stars showing up in an environment that was captivating no matter where you're watching or how tired you were because this was a late one. Ty. Baseball delivered last night a big way, so did your Yankees. Yeah, without a doubt. And I think the playoffs as a whole kind of needed something like this because while all the series have been pretty solid so far in the DS round here, there really hasn't been like a signature moment.

You know, the Phillies and Dodgers series has been, it's been very cagey, just kind of not what you would expect from those two teams. You'd expect more homers. And then this one, like I said, like the Yankees have been utterly dominated by the Blue Jays in the first two games in Tehran. Yeah, utterly dominated, if you will. And just as a Yankees fan, as, you know, a judge disciple, it just for him to have that moment because he has been playing so well,

but he hasn't been, you know, getting very many extra base hits or home runs. Like, that was a moment that, you know, at the end of his career, like, I would imagine, you know, who knows what happens over the next several years that he plays, that will be one of the top three highlights that people go back to, regardless of what happens throughout the rest of these playoffs. The brink of elimination, the judge, all rise. He went crazy. Now they play again tonight. Another elimination game.

Are the Yankees going to come back and win this thing, three, two? And will this end up on somebody's future Mount Rushmore Chokes for this Toronto team? Now, that episode is out now. New Rushmore on X is available with Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Ari Emanuel, and Ben Persky, talking about sports, biggest chokes throughout the history of sports. And what it actually is, is Bob Costas and Al Michaels telling stories about sports history in a fantastic way. Marvelous storytelling. In a recap of what sports have been, what sports are, and stories that we need to remember. It's a fantastic episode, about 40 minutes or so.

I think you can lock in. Clips available across. all platforms the entire episode available at rushmore on x it is uh that's a good show i do fantastic ari ammanuel ben perski created it ari ammanuel yes that one ari gold from entourage now uh chairman of tkio and one of the greatest agents the greatest agent of all time if you ask him and i think a lot of people would say it around and then ben perski record label founder uh i believe he friend of ari also mentee of ari in this great conversations they took the mount Rushmore idea that has obviously been

done before and just brought in the goats of the sports to kind of talk about it. We're lucky that we're a part of it and the boys busted their ass, editing it and putting it together. We're very proud of it. And maybe this Toronto team could join that. Maybe if there's a next episode for this. If the Yankees were able to come back, I think the Yankees

are already on one of these particular chokes situations. Yeah. And it wasn't on the right side of history. No, it was. It was actually for the Red Sox, who no longer around, but even Red Sox fans enjoyed what they saw from the Yankees last night. joining us now as a football guy who sent a text and said, I'm actually watching baseball.

The Yankees game, shoot, awesome. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rider Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. Hawker, brother, you said, man, I'm even watching the baseball here and that wouldn't normally happen. Playoff baseball has been incredible.

Last night was spectacular. Yeah, that shot that you guys just showed a little bit ago behind the pitcher when Judgey hit that home or like just 8K beautiful. You can see the reaction of the pitcher when the ball hits the foul pull like this thing is look at the fans behind home plate like this was

awesome like getting to see this live and then watching jazz chisholm smoked at Homer and flip his bat was just that's all I need it's like the Yankees have to win this game we know that yeah take a one run lead there in the bottom of the fifth still a lot of baseball left after these but these games have been spurts of big innings right hasn't that kind of been the story

of the playoffs there's been like a third inning that's gone crazy a fifth inning that's gone crazy this one the fourth obviously goes big for the Yankees that's kind of been the tale of this year's playoffs thus far. Yeah, pretty much. It's like whenever teams have gotten traffic on the base pass, usually that's the, like you have to score in those situations because the pitching has been pretty damn dominant throughout all of the playoffs in both leagues. So yeah, these couple innings where, and the thing that like the Blue Jays, it all started, they gave

the Yankees an extra out. There was a pop, there was a pop up to third base. That inning, Judge, hit the Homer. Guy drops it. He, so they have a runner on first base. Then their lead off hitter walks and judge hits the three-run homer so they give them four outs and like that's what good teams do they make you pay yeah baseball is great uh also great jerry jones uh we haven't really got a chance to chat about this yet but we have a little bit more uh information from jerry jones camp on what happened this past weekend and MetLife stadium jerry jones was caught doing uh Brian tepper move a david tepper move of you know in the way box stadium waving down find somebody you buddy i've been listening to you all day

i'm done with that we went ahead and did that jerry jones came out and after getting fined $250,000 from the NFL for this and said that it was unfortunate gesture and he actually thought it was a thumbs up i believe yeah thumbs up maybe a thumbs up there number one maybe a thumbs up and that middle finger just just controls itself sometimes you know sometimes you got to go ahead and put that thing down like this right here

Anytime we get a chance of here, Jerry Talk, we'll certainly do that. Go ahead. I'm laying up here in the bed. I said, the good news is that they say you're going to live. And so don't make me have to come up here and visit with my rubber glove and get you out of that bed. Now, they took that out. And I thought it was the best scene in the whole thing.

So that's from the Landman scene where we know that he won an award. He should win an award for how he acted in there with Billy Bob and somebody else and basically tells a story about, you know, doing business with his family and what they have here and how special it is. And to be honest, almost tear to your eye, listening to Jerry do this. And he did all in one take, obviously. But even in that particular take, that middle finger of his just couldn't. He wanted to put on rubber glove that thing starts dancing out there, you know.

And we've heard other older folks say that certain words or things just, for some reason, my mouth can't stop saying it. Jerry basically came out and said my finger just even when I want to do a thumbs up but my middle finger just it's an outlaw I don't know what to tell you so we appreciate to get that $250,000 fine where's this money go we don't know how's it who knows but we know know that the NFL said Jared can't do that anymore which we respect I would appeal I would appeal if I'm Jerry I don't care how many billions he has if you're finding me 250K for a blurry shot of me possibly flicking some dude off from the other team like come on

That's something you used to do all the time on the, once again. I was playful and fun. It was never out of like anger or anything. Well, his was too. You see it, white, he's porn. He pointed. And he meant the thumbs up if you listen to him or maybe a number one, but instead that middle finger can't help itself.

Now, you want to talk about one finger going somewhere? You go ahead and take that thing right to the sky. Especially whenever you're talking about a man that's about to join us in just a matter of moments. Ladies and gentlemen, down there in Perth, Australia on Saturday, there's going to be an ass beating of an Australian man named Brunson Reed. And it's going to be done by a man who's a six-time world champion. Let me make sure I get these stats right, because they are prolific. AJ, did you hear that?

Six-time world champion, exactly. One of those was for 1,316 days. My God. This man is a career. glen slam champion he's a 2015 royal rumble winner and oh yeah in 2006 he was first team all a cc no big deal ladies and gentlemen our tribal chief the head of the table we're roman rinds yeah what a transition huh what a segue from the middle finger to the pointer finger Love it.

Well, Jerry did it, you know, and it wasn't supposed to go that way, but live in real time, I thought to myself, if there's only one finger that needs to fly, it's one to the sky, and it's certainly acknowledging our tribal chief. It's great to have you back in the world, brother. How is it? I see TC1. Okay, I like the shirts. I'm looking to buy those immediately. We love everything about it. And now you're heading to Australia to do a little ass beating.

How's the body feel? How do you feel leading up just a few days before the big match with Bronson Reed, who? Hey, he's broken both of his own ankles jumping off the top of things. Okay, he's looking to smash you, dude. How do you feel, Roman, a goat heading to Australia just a few days? I feel like crap. My body does not feel good. I was down there not too long ago.

The flight, you know, back and forth has not been nice. I've been jet lagged for, I feel like four weeks in a row now. So why not just go down there and try to kill myself? So it is what it is, you know. We're going to go just head against the wall, Goldberg style, you know, just reckless abandon and, yeah, you can't do much worse than I feel now. So let's just go mess it up physically. Okay, so you're not at your best.

I don't love that. Okay, not your best, but you don't need. I wouldn't say that. I don't, yeah, this is like you, I'm a live performer. I can do it at any given moment. It doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying? I'm always at 100. You're right.

We're always at the 10 is, you know what I'm saying? We live at a 12. So the tent will always be easy. Yeah, because it doesn't really matter how you feel. Whenever you're in there, you're the goat, obviously. So get a half. Well, yeah, you go through the curtain. You know what that.

I mean, you could be selling a broken leg back there. But as soon as the music hits, as soon as you go through that black curtain, it's like a, you know, it's like a shot in the arm. How cool does it feel whenever you do this in just the entire place? Every city, every single city goes and does the same exact thing. I don't want to say power, but that is certainly power. That's praise.

That has to feel pretty incredible. As long as they do it with me, yeah. As long as they do it with me, we're good to go. What if it's that other thing? What if is that Jerry Jones? Which could be down in Australia here with the local guy, you know, Bronson Reed, Australian guy. Now, I know you just talked about being down there.

You were shooting Street Fighter. I believe you're in that movie. You're in Australia. 16-hour flight. Obviously, it's a long way to the opposite side of the world. How are you going to handle that? How are you going to handle, you know, the long travel, the what's it called whenever your body clock's completely off uh jet lag how are you going to handle that

do you have ideas i assume a man of your stature of your legacy i assume we got ivs in a plane i assume we got a full meal plant i assume we got the workout happening how are you addressing that when is your travel and uh what is kind of the next steps for you as we lead into that uh well i'll fly out tonight uh travel for this will be much much kinder than it was for the movie um but you know we're working on that. You know, you got to pay your dues. You got to build your equity. And brother was on the commercial flight, just living life, you know, amongst the people. It was great. But no, this is much, much better. G6, what, G650 on the way out there. One stop for gas and then we're right to Perth. And then we hit the ground running. Like I said, you know, there's no real way to combat

this jet lagged, tired, rundown feeling. All you can do is just try to, you know, keep your immune system as high as possible. Like you said, get a banana bag in if you can, vitamin C it up. And don't bitch about it. Let's just keep moving forward. And just try to hit the ground running, try to keep some momentum.

You know, as I get there, I want to say Friday in the late morning, probably around this time Friday. So we'll kind of time travel in the next 24 to 30 hours and then just hit the ground and hope for the best. Hi, I appreciate the fact that you're a humble travel chief. and you will fly commercial, but for this one,

obviously we need you locked in in that G650. Thank you for making a business this year. This isn't because you're high maintenance at all. No, this is not because you want to fly private. You wish you could fly commercial,

but this is locked in. We got business, obviously, to handle. We need to... I did not say that. I did not. We don't ever want to fly commercial. We have to. It is what it is, you know what I'm saying.

And no, no, no, ain't nothing about being bougie or high maintenance. Business is business. You know what I'm saying? I have to, I set the tone and the standard for the next guy up. So if I start slumming it, then the next guy's going to slum. We're progressing here

man. Like I said, everybody gets escalated. Everybody gets lifted when the travel chiefs around. Rising tides, lift all boats. Let's talk about Jay Uso. Seems like there's been a little bit of I don't want to say, but Tom, passing obviously, the Ola Fala. That hasn't

happened. Obviously, it's a big deal. I'm not talking about that. But it feels like he has his eyes on a little bit more. It feels like you also see a little something in him. is that kind of working out and how is it to see the Uso's back and you with them it feels like glory days almost right well i mean i don't know about all that and i don't know about you know handing down the the mantle i i don't know if anybody can actually handle that responsibility that obligation but uh great much no j um i look i i i saw this from the beginning nobody you know what i mean like just like sammy i seen you know this this uh beautiful opportunity

within Jay a long time ago and we're just now kind of seeing that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow with him but there's so much more left to do with them there's so many more accolades and more opportunities for him to capitalize on it and that's what I'm saying is like he got there

that's that's one of the hard parts but the hardest part is staying there the hardest part is staying relevant and staying at the tip tip tip top of the mountain to be able to to breathe at that altitude and to do it like I did for what did you say 13 16 you know what I'm saying so I wish he would listen to me a lot a lot better I wish his brother would just shut up and listen to me as well it would it would make life a lot easier because at the end of the day I got the proof of concept I'm the one who's mapped this

thing out I'm the one who needs to you that understands how to get back to a you know, the new, you know, the new land. I'm the only one that can cross the ocean and come back. So I'm the only one that understands how to navigate these waters, and I just wish they would listen to me. Yeah, and, you know, sometimes leadership, uh, isn't respected or appreciated in the moments that they need it. But Jimmy's listening, Jimmy's hearing.

And whenever the moment comes to the moment, Jimmy will do the right thing, right? Yeah, I would tell you. Same with Jay. Same with Jay. Same with Jay. They'll listen to you. You're, you're the right thing. The bloodline. I need a bloodline.

That's objective, right? You over here, the right thing. and the right thing in WWE, that's, I don't even, that's like, I don't even know if that makes sense, you know, like, that's like trying to be a good guy in the shark tank, you know what I mean, try to be the good guy in the ocean. You want to be Rose or Jack, you want to live or not, you know what I mean? Put me on the door. Yeah, I want to be on. And there was enough room. There's enough room. There's not enough. That's the beautiful thing about there's not enough room in WW. There's not enough real estate you have to get what is yours and that's what i'm trying to teach these guys that's

what i'm trying to like learn them boys is you have to take it now because every this ain't hollywood there's no number one like bode can try to put it there i can try to put it there but everybody's trying to take these spots everybody's trying to come up nobody cares if you're doing good today that's how the wwe is it's not like hollywood where they put a number on us and everybody serves the top spot everybody's here to me make one and two look really good. They don't care if I look good. They want the good life here.

They want to be in the promsland. It's not the titles. It's this space that I'm speaking of. Yeah, the G650 down to Perth. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We understand what you're speaking of. And obviously, that is why the WWE has been great for so long

because there's so much competition within the company to get these prime spots. And this man held it down through the hardest time in the history of the business when there was no fans took it to new heights billions and billions and billions and dollars in revenue but there was one person that was next to you then that seemingly hasn't been for some time now and he's got a huge brain this man go ahead con man yeah tc1 i acknowledge as always and you know you're mentioned real estate there's not enough real estate brother because it's all yours uh but when you're thinking about what this weekend is going to hold have you thought about the wise man at all is there any sort of feelings about what he might try and uh do

during your match i would say anything that i need to be worried about he's doing right now when we get out there physically in that capacity never worried about the old man you know what i mean it is what it is i choked him out last time where i you know just him getting in the bubble he already understands that but any type of you know layered plan any any type of foil that he's trying to plan at this point i think it's it's being game planned um you know and and in the forefront so just got to be ready for everything he i mean he taught me so much i sat under his learning tree i caught shade for a long time so anything that he's teaching all these other guys he's already you know what i mean just you know and he's long-winded so he'll keep on

telling his stories you know what i mean he'll come back to him so um i i've like a sponge absorbed so much from from the former wise man that i think he's gone dumb now i don't think he Oh, you took it all. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's become one of those situations where, you know, I've become the master. Oh, I like to hear that because that happens in a lot of sports. And ask, too, you can ask the twins. When we were on these, you know, years ago on these flights, doing, you know, same thing to Saudi.

I'd sit there and I'd listen to him. I'd sit there and I'd take counsel. I'd sit there and hear his stories. And sometimes, yeah, he'd forget, he told me a story and he'd tell me again, but I'd listen to it again. just to see, you know what I mean, if the, you know, the mantra, the moral of the story was the same or if there's another little piece of information. He's a very, he's a very wise soul. So you got to be smart when you're around someone like that because you can learn so much. Yeah, no detail unnoticed from our tribal chief. You want to tell me story three, four times.

I'll certainly be listening to new details so that I can get better. and then also all that information and knowledge I'm going to take from you and you're going to start making bad decisions wise man he actually said if this doesn't go well down at crown jewel I'm going to have to ask myself why I picked you over Roman rain so he's already having a little bit of dot okay so he's already starting to oh my god he's yearning for the days when he was riding over there relevancy island you know whenever he was when he was living the high life with the tribal chief and now he's over there with the vision going

you know what my vision is now how the hell do I get out of here so big times they just got off a charter with like 80 people probably sweating it up you know what I'm saying that's not the good life it's not bad but it's not the good life it's not the promise land yeah it's not

life around you know what I'm talking about I do I acknowledge that's right yeah I acknowledge me I acknowledge me that's right yeah no question's rare air baby it is and you were breathing it for a long time

well also others were trying to eat It's like, can you yee up at that altitude? We shall see. I know I couldn't. I was getting blown up every single week as Jay was riding his wave to the top. AJ has a question for you, Tribal Chief. Yeah, speaking of rare air, what you have done and been at the top for so long,

I wonder, it reminds me of like Tiger Woods, how long he held world number one, just for astronomical amounts of time, everyone taking shots at him trying to get his top spot. Have you reached out ever to anyone in other sports, say like Tom Brady during his run, all these guys that may be the top of their sport and try to like say, hey, how do you do it? How do you handle this when everyone's trying to come get your spot? No, I'd never, outside of probably talking like Duane, you know, Johnson.

Of course. Well, we're down here in Miami, so I was thinking maybe Wade or whatever. He's won some championships. Yeah, yeah, he's won some championships down here. But no, I haven't had the privilege of talking to any of those guys. But I definitely studied that. You know what I mean? I've definitely watched, you know, Michael Jordan, Tiger, Tom Brady, all these guys, everybody, you know, the goats of their space, of their sport, of their skill.

I think it's, it's an easy watch. I mean, ESPN, they have so many documentaries, all the 30 for 30s. So you can kind of dive into that and look into the psyche of what these guys were thinking or feeling what they're going through. A lot of times, too, they're going through a lot of, you know, they're going through some shit in real life. They're going through personal stuff too, which is interesting because a lot of these guys actually are to be able to chase and focus on the greatness while your life is going nuts. That's a skill in its own right. But yeah, I've definitely studied. And I've said this before, like, as I'm sure you boys have done yourselves because you've all achieved, you know, a very high success rate in your own lanes.

You take pages from people's playbooks. You see somebody doing something seamless, like, oh, man, like, you know, Rock, Cina, you know, older guys than me like Randy Orton, Ray Mysterio, all the way back to, you know, someone, I didn't get a much, much time with The Undertaker. Bob Back. Yeah, there we go. He's pulling stuff from Bob Backlin for sure. Yeah, hey, why not? Hey, pop out them steps and get some cardio in. But yeah, they all, everybody's got something. that they do just like man that's so smart why where did you figure that out and then you know

you just steal that and that's all it is just stealing plays like football it's copycat you know what I mean you just take what you like and make it your own and then all the sudden they're singing your praises yeah stealing learning you know it's all different types of conversations because you make it into your own and I think anybody that's at the top is obviously a big time learner and committed to getting better every single day which you certainly have and continue to do you got that dog trait that takes you to the top. That's because you're a football guy. We love that. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, my tribal chief, I know how busy you are, so I'm not sure how much you've been able to pay attention to your alma mater, but boy, I'll tell you what, Georgia Tech is humming

right now, undefeated in the ACC. Is Georgia Tech going to win the ACC this year? Are we thinking, hey, the playoffs are coming, and Haynes King and the boys are going to be there? You down in Miami right now? I don't know. I don't want to jinx. The moment I start running my mouth, my teams do not perform well, so we're just going to enjoy what, you know, hey, if you want to play good football, excuse me, if you want to be successful in life, if you want to be a part of something after football quits you because it quits all of us, unless you're fortunate enough to keep talking about it after you're done, you want to be a part of this Georgia Tech community. You want to be a part of this Georgia Tech fraternity. We're winners, man. And I want to say, at least 25 to 30% of us are no easy millionaires. So that's something we've been doing before the social media game, before they became all these different avenues to create revenue. We were at the groundwork and, you know, starting with just geniuses.

You know what I mean? Engineers just getting it done. And the ones who aren't engineers, we're taught how to run them. You know what I'm saying? We're taught how to employ them and manage them in one of the greatest markets of Atlanta. So if you're not buying what I'm selling at, this point. Georgia Tech, Atlanta, that's the place to be, because that's what taught me how to Pensacola could only do so much. I love Pensacola floor, the panhandle. It taught me how to be a young

man, but Georgia Tech and Atlanta taught me how to be a grown man. So please join, join membership has its privileges, boys. Ty asked you, he said, I don't know how much you're paying attention to. He understands everything's recruiting. He just dropped into a recruiting for Georgia Tech immediately. 25, 30% of us become billionaires. You're not getting my money, but I will push you. Football, obviously, WWE. Now, you just talked about being in Australia. You have a huge role in Street Fighter.

Debutt has a question for you. Absolutely. We all grew up playing Street Fighter. That's a big, big opportunity. You can't wait to see it. But how has our balancing being a WWE superstar and being a big Hollywood star? How has that been so far?

You mentioned talking to Dwayne. Johnson before, have you leaned on him or some other guys, and just how has that been? Well, no, I mean, I, man, it was so busy going back and forth and trying to get through Paris and then get to the point of getting down there. My kids, you know, they're all in school right now. And so, you know, we're in the falls. We're in the thick of it. So I didn't get a chance to tap into anybody, but that's one thing I did do is when I was down on Hobs and Shaw, I was able to, like I said, just absorb everything and just kind of monitor and just, you know, download as much of the process as possible. And that helped me out a lot when I got down there.

And also, too, the things that I didn't like about my experience or maybe my attitude in the last project or two that I've done and just different ways to, you know, psychologically prepare myself for a different process. because that was the biggest thing. I'm so used to my WWE bubble. I'm so used to that process and being live and jetting in and jetting out, you know, having the bus and having my own little, you know, my own little creative space. So I had to just kind of rewire myself to be ready for a different process. But yeah, man, it was fun.

It was a good time. And there was that one little moment in time where I was like, man, this is kind of what being a movie star feels like. You know what I mean? Being in that little bubble, it was cool. and it was it's interesting because everything i've learned in w w everything they've taught me all these skills that i've acquired and i've sharpened they all translate yeah selling giving delivering remembering adjusting everything carries over i think you're going to be massive star dude

because you know i don't have to tell you this you already know you have a mirror this dude is wildly attractive. Okay, it is out, yeah, and I know you used to be a vest boy, okay, used to be a little bit, you know, Ouse used to get a little comfortable. I said, D-Tackle, man, I was chubby. You know what I mean? Holden water. Holden water. This athletic is all

hell, though, holding water. And that's how he views himself, I think, still as that fat guy. And then he walks out, and he's just like 4% body fat. And the whole place is like, what the fuck is that thing that just walked out here, which is great. That was last month, though. That was last It's October Fest, baby.

We're coming in watery. Well, that's good. You got Bunsen Reed. It's Sam Adams' fault. Oh, man. Every time it comes around. The fall comes around, football's happening. It's my favorite.

I loved you here, and I'm used to the WWE process. You know, jetting in. I got a bust my own little creative bubble, and then I kind of jet out of there. Movie, we're on a commercial thing. Okay, we're at somebody else's movie set. All right. I guess I'll adapt to the process here,

and we will still try to crush it. I can't wait to watch it. you master that lane, just like you mastered W.W.E. And if you were to stuck with football, we all assume you'd end up in a hall of fame for that as well. We appreciate you man. Thank you for joining us. Safe travels down to Australia. Thank you, fellas.

Appreciate you all for having. That's right. Always. Ladies and gentlemen, our tribal chief, the only tribal chief. TC1. Rug and rents. Thank you, Ray.

Hey, Romoo! A little different processed honor for that movie. You know, I'm a six-time world champion. I was champion for 1,360 days. You know, WWE, I know exactly where the food is. Everybody kind of knows where I'm going. We all understand what we're all looking for around here.

I got this movie set. Okay, we're in somebody else's playground all of a sudden. You don't care. I'm running 1,300. Yes. Oh, really? Yeah, who gives a shit? Your call times in eight hours.

Okay, we need you. And also, here's your trailer, same size of everybody else's. It is the movie world. I got a chance to experience it a little bit. with Mosquito Bull when I went over there. And it's very similar, though, to a team. Like, you know, it's very similar to like a football team. Who's the coach?

Who's running shit? Operations, yada, yada. Everybody has come together. Everybody has a job. And managing it all is crazy. Those movies insane. That street front of one, they had like 10 celebs in it. Yeah.

So that involves everybody's people as well, let alone shooting it and everything. Everybody's people. Think about that. Managing everybody's people. That would be tough. Going to Australia, too, getting enough space. And then Australia, if it's anything like what it was for Mosquito Bowl, Australia provides the production companies, the trucks, everything like that.

The extras, they are for the movie that I was at for, what, 11 days I was there, let alone they're still shooting. They've been over there a long time. That's a full family. They've been going through like an entire season. All the Aussie people were awesome, just like wanting to help, do whatever they can. And they all got such sweet accents. Yeah.

You know, the sweet accents are always such a good thing. Congrats to Roman Reins. Bronson Reed, Roman Raines. This is a huge night for Brunson. Yeah. I mean, this is the biggest night of Brunson Reed's life. Without a doubt. In his home country.

Home game, yeah. Got to have to do it. Not a cage match, isn't it? He's not going off the cage match. Okay. Just maybe sure. What are you saying that for? Because the last time we saw him do that,

we saw both of his shin bones explode out of his legs, you know, like a goddamn horror movie. Yeah, but he'd be willing to do that, which is what you have to know. You know, is that that's where you're taking on. When that tsunami comes, there's a chance that you're going to get splatted. he might as well. And Romanar stands what he's done for. OBJ went on the pivot and disclosed that he's going to be serving a six-game BED suspension.

We'd like to tell him, hey, OBJ, everything you've done for football that's far. Great, brother. Hell yeah. Thank you. I think coming out and addressing it is the smart play. Seemed like he was at peace a little bit on that particular pivot podcast. And then I think he also mentioned in there, I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire conversation. I certainly will about playing for the Giants again.

So now we wait to see what O'Dell Beckham's future looks like, but a guy who's become a megastar in our world is now facing a six-game PD. I think he said, you know, he obviously regretted it all and talked about what kind of got lost and stuff. It was a very transparent O'Dell Beckham Jr. on the pivot. And what are your thoughts on him, the player at this point? And how should we think of OBJ? You know, he hasn't been what we remember him to be like his peak, obviously for a while. He talked about his time in Miami where he was kind of maybe halfway in, halfway out.

because you spend so much time, you know, in the building. And a guy like him, you mentioned, being a megastar. When we were playing, he was, I would say, easily, the most popular football player in the world. You know what I mean? Probably outside of the quarterback. Maybe Tom Brady, Peyton Man, and those guys. But, like, he was right in that atmosphere,

and we never really seen that from a guy. But as far as a football player on the field, you know, at this point, we have to see it, you know, see it to believe it. But Odell, he's a freak show of an athlete. If he has had this time off to get fully healthy, who knows what, you know, environment he can go in and compete. Now, him and the Giants, that's surprising.

You know, I know it's, you know, I know he loves the place. That's where it all started. But, you know, got a young quarterback. I would expect to maybe, like, the rounds of him. I think he likes the moxia, 44 and 6, dude. I think he likes the moxia of the boys over there in Dayball. There's a chance. You know, thinking about him on PEDs is crazy,

just if you go back to his prime, because what he was doing, like, imagine if he was to juice up then. Like, what the hell? What would have been, dude, he was so outrageous. I played catch with him at the time. Pro Bowl, and he won. Like, I didn't even know you could play catch. I'm throwing him the ball and just, like, insane catch every single time he's throwing.

I have no idea how I became the person playing catch with him. I think I was out on the field kicking. He came out early for warm-ups, normal equipment crew that might throw or backup quarterback that might throw him, is not out there. So literally, I kick a ball. He comes over, spins one, kicks one, like a 50-yard field goal makes it. Yeah, it was insane. It was absolutely insane.

Just spinning the ball makes a brand-new football, too. Should not have went that far. No problem. and then just like a ball just gets thrown and then gets thrown back all of a sudden I'm playing catch with O'Dill Beckham Jr. Oh, this is sick, okay?

So let's go ahead and miss a little high here. You know what I mean? And it was like, I got to see and experience it and obviously everybody else was watching as well. And it was like, this guy's winning a game of catch right now just because of how filthy he is. Hands. So big.

Just outrageous talent what he was able to do football. Obviously that catch is what everybody's going to remember him for in the biggest market and the biggest game. and everything like that, but he was explosive for a long time, AJ, OBJ. He was crazy competitive, too. That's what you remember, like how that dude would compete with anybody going back and forth. And, I mean, for young kids, everyone, I don't know how many generations it'll go, but you make a one-handed catch.

Like, it's an OBJ, like even six-year-old kids now, they say that. Joining us now is a man that might be changing how we call things forever as well. He's a rookie in the NFL. He's already leading the NFL in a lot of different categories. He's been a player of a month already. There's talking about him being the favorite for the offensive. rookie of the year. And coming out of Ohio State, there wasn't a lot of fanfare about him because this guy doesn't care, just likes the ball, and they love him in Tampa Bay.

Ladies and gentlemen, the explosive Ameca Bucca. Yeah. How are you, dude? What up? How are you guys doing? I'm doing good. Hey, we're great. Thank you so much for joining us. Are you an Adidas athlete? I am. I'm an Adidas athlete. Well, they're giving money to everybody. They're trying to get into football. It feels like Adidas is trying to get into football for real. And we appreciate it. And we appreciate

that Adidas is getting in, Nike's in, and I think Adidas is saying we picked the right guy here and you. Let's shit chat about how this has gone thus far from our perspective, okay? AJ Hawk, obviously Ohio State legend, much like yourself. He has a tree on campus. You certainly will have a tree on campus at some point, and you might be the president of Ohio like A.J. Hawk was a couple years ago. But at Ohio State, you're always like the number two wide receiver or number three wide receiver that was in topic of conversation. Always did your job, never bitched at all. I think AJ actually said Emeka Bucca whenever he gets into the

NFL is going to be a guy. It has certainly been that. Do you think your journey through Ohio State, how it went, has prepared you for this type of situation being in the NFL? And have you always been like the most mature guy of all time, basically, to handle all these things? So the first part

of your question, yeah, I think Ohio State has made me ready for my NFL career in a lot of ways. I think something that the wide receiver room at Ohio State prize ourselves on is, you know, having three wide receiver ones at any given time. So we have all the ability to be able to dominate any given game. And we're all super confident in that ability. And just being in that room for so many years and competing with those guys day by day just made me into such a better

football player. That was part of the reason that I went to Ohio State was because, you know, I was a five-star top-ten recruit, you know, number one wide receiver in my class, all that type of stuff. And, you know, could have gone anywhere. Bama, you know, Clemson was hot at the time when I was coming out. But I wanted to go to Ohio State because I knew that that receiver room was special and I needed to be, you know, I wanted to grow my ability and not just see the field right away. I knew I needed to actually push myself because I have, you know, big goals for my future in the NFL. See, that's a super mature way of look here as a 17 year old, 18 year old. So that goes back to the end of my thing. Yes, you've always been mature throughout it all.

Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, in that receiver room, we all. always hear about Brian Hartline, so I actually played with Hartline. I knew firsthand that guy's an absolute stud on the field and has a recruiter and a coach he is, but what is it, what separates him and Ryan Day, you think as coaches that kind of continues? We know everybody has talent, but you guys just continue, you know, three, four, five deep, it doesn't matter who they could throw it to Ohio State, you guys are going to get it done. Like, what separates them do you think as coaches? I think a lot of the success that you see from the Ohio State receivers is a reflection of Coach Harlan's mentality.

And it's not that he made us that way, but he recruits like-minded individuals, people who are a perfectionist and, you know, want the most out of their career that they can get. And in some senses, Coach Hart kind of expects more out of you than you expect of yourself sometimes. So he believes in all of us and all of our ability to be able to succeed and do everything that we want to do. And he puts so much into coaching us and, you know, making us know what we need to know to go out there and execute. That was at Ohio State, and then now at Tampa Bay. I think Baker said you said something during the spring that blew his mind. He was like, wait a minute, this might be a guy. You've been one of his go-toes.

And there's some stats that Hembo sent us over. And you have two 50-yard catches, only wide receiver with more than one thus far in the season. 7.25-yard catches that's most in the NFL with five touchdown catches, average 33-yard. I mean, you are explosive in every facet, and you make insane catches look very easy, and you're always open. It's not supposed to be like this for rookies. in the NFL. It's supposed to be a grown man'sley. You're supposed to struggle a little bit. Instead, we're seeing the best football from you and also the best football from Baker, but they're not the only ones. AQ has a question for you as a former Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneer.

Yeah, I played with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans down there. How has having them in the room, veteran leaders, as well as Baker, helped you transition in your rookie season? It's been super instrumental in my success. Obviously, the reason, you know, part of the reason I was the first round pick is because of my natural talent and my ability that God gave me. But just the confidence that they put into me, just really on the mental side of things, just making sure I know my job. They're always, they always have an open year for me to ask any question. I'm a big question asker.

So, you know, I probably annoy them with how much I ask, but they're always ready to answer and give me the real. And, you know, they just pump so much confidence into me. Like, Mike is a dude who's constantly in my ear telling me, you know, you were built for this, you can do this, you're made for this, like, you're that guy. And, like, just having someone like that Hall of Famer who believes in you to that type of level just makes you go out on the field and really, you know, ball out and do what you were made to do. You're certainly doing that.

And believing in yourself and believing in your team is potentially why you guys have four fourth quarter comebacks this season to start the year. The culture there seemingly great, especially with what you just said about Mike Evans relaying to you, a man who could potentially take the mantle of the team. Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver for the next 15 years like Mike Evans has been able to do. No pettiness, no jealousy. Instead, it's a complete opposite gassing you up. I love that. And your quarterback has been doing the same thing except for one particular time. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Mecca, a couple weeks ago, Bake, and Pat mentioned it, you've had, you know, like one to two highlight real catches almost every single week.

But a couple weeks ago, you had a sick one-handed catch. And I think we got some audio of Baker basically telling you like, hey, Rook, you know, used to two hands, okay? You're making my ball look less pretty by making a one-handed catch. At this point now, a couple weeks removed from that, have you gotten, do you have carte blanche now where it's basically like if bake's going to throw it to you, it's like, hey, bake, shut up. I'm going. I'm going to snag this thing and there's a good chance to score. How is that gone? No, I mean, our relationship is great. You know, if you guys get a chance to talk to him, you can ask him. But like, ever since that, sometimes I'll just one hand something in practice

just to look at him and laugh. But, no, we have a great relationship. You know, it's all, you know, we're joking around. We're having fun. And that's really what it's about at the end of day. Like, we're having fun playing football. And in the high-stress situation, in the lives that we live, sometimes you can lose that a little bit.

Obviously, winning is the most fun thing. But just to be able to ball with your boys like you used to is, you know, something that we really enjoy. So did you enjoy Baker in that Seattle Seahawks fan? We loved it. We loved the little sauce that he still has. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he was bawling.

He was bawling. You know, I'm from Seattle, so it's been a lifelong dream of mine to play in that stadium. And to have a guy like that go out there with some fire and, you know, talk to the historic fan who's always there at the opposing tunnel. You know, it just got the whole team going. And obviously, his performance speaks for itself. And, you know, he's just a baller. Don't wake him up. I think it's the thing.

You know, and I talked about this yesterday. It's like teams might need to send out, like, emails to season ticket holders and people that are going to be there. Like, hey, we just don't talk to the quarterback. Yeah, actually, bring signs pro bakers. Baker, welcome the time. Great to have you. BYU was doing at WVU. Did you see that?

Oh, yeah. They're making them ice cream and singing their songs. We went out there. Then he beat us by 50. I mean, it was unbelievable. Very hospitable. As is Ohio State, we don't have to get into it. We got a number one.

wide receiver in the country saying, I want to go to that place because there's other number one wide receivers. I'll tell you what, West Virginia would die to have that. We'd really enjoy to have that type of situation happening in our particular locker room. Now, let's talk about you and football, your football life. Go ahead, Dee Budd. Yeah, Mack, you talked about your upbringing in Seattle. I think I heard in the broadcast about your spectacular baseball career growing up. You won pitch, hit and run, started getting college offers pretty early. Then after COVID, I believe a couple seasons were canceled. You committed. I guess, fully to football.

How was that decision made? Obviously, it worked out. You said you were five-star number one while receiving the country coming out as well. But how did that, I guess, final decision, how did that work out to be just straight football? Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was less of a decision and more of just like baseball just finding its way out of my life.

You know, I still, I love the game of baseball. You know, still miss it from time to time. But, you know, I played my freshman in my sophomore year. in high school, then COVID hit. My junior year was entirely canceled. I played for a select baseball team in the summer. All my summer tournaments were canceled, and then senior year rose around,

and I early committed to Ohio State. And, you know, I could have played baseball at Ohio State. I had, you know, the opportunity. I talked to the baseball coach and everything. And, you know, once I got there, kind of got a grasp of the football schedule, I was like, you know what? I'm going to stick to one sport.

How old were you when you started? started getting those offers. I saw a report online. It was AI over review and they took it eight years old. Baseball? Yeah. I don't know how true that is, but you must have been hit off. How early you start getting offers? Nah, I don't think I had any official offers when I was eight, but, you know, football offers started coming in when I was 14. And then, you know, from those various schools who offer me for football, I'll get in touch with their their baseball coaches as well and kind of chop it up. But, you know, at high school and all my travel tournaments and stuff like that. I had MLB scouts and stuff there. So it was pretty cool

at a young age. Yeah, we assume it would have worked out if that would have happened. Can I ask you about your junior, senior year being COVID years? Because we talk about your generation. I want to let you know that our show, I'm 38 years old. We got everywhere from 24, 25 to 41 on our show. Basically is our range. And we had a vastly different life, obviously, than a group right after us growing up. But your generation, the COVID high school life forming, friendship forming, societal interaction forming years, just kind of taken away from you. Like, do you look back on those years? Like, what do you take away from those? Baseball ends up out of your life. I don't know about like homecoming and prom and all the things that also got taken away. But do you just try

not to think about it? Or do you have like, you look back on and say like, well, it was actually good for me because of this? Like, is that how you try to spin it? How do you kind of view it? Because you're the first person from that generation that I'm getting to ask this question. So know that whatever you say, I'm going to take with me for the rest of my life. Okay, no pressure. Yeah. No, I mean, I can't speak for everybody. You know, everyone has their own experience and everything like that.

For me, you know, COVID was, it was strange at first. Yeah. They were kind of really strict on all the rules and, you know, wear your mask everywhere and you can't travel to other people's houses. So, like, I remember I was locked up in the house for a little bit and I was like, yo, this is crazy. So I was just doing school from home and everything like that. But kind of as we got a grasp of what it was and got to understand.

understanding of it. For me personally, like, my schedule was all the way messed up in COVID. Like, I didn't have to sleep, go to sleep early to go to school and everything like that. My schedule, like, I still remember it to this day. I would wake up at like 11 or noon. And then I would go to, I would go to my first workout, which was like a wide receiver training with my wide receiver coach, come back, get some lunch. Then I go to lift, come back, do my homework. And then like from there on, I was like, you know, on the game playing college duty with my friends and stuff like that just staying up like all hours of the night because I didn't have to wake up for school so like my schedule was definitely a little

messed up but um I spent a lot of time like playing football like I really did I spent so much time playing football like I didn't have to go school I was meeting with my wife seeer coach every day honing my craft getting strong in the gym like that was the strongest I was during COVID like I came in my freshman year and you know I was benching I don't know I did like 225 for 14 like as a freshman just coming in like just knocked them out and obviously I got stronger throughout my college career but like I was strong when I came into to Ohio State you're a professional athlete in the off season through COVID yeah yeah I'm a game a little bit yeah just keep it down go a big one like maybe some popcorn as well you know and then wake up at

11 let's get the first workout at the day let's go work on some technique let's go ahead and get a lift in hop we got to do school they said got an email here all right I'll take this test let me go through this Like when I went to Ohio, they didn't require any A-C-T, any SAT. Like, none of that was required to actually get into school. So, like, I kind of just had my offer. Ohio State, huh? That wasn't Ohio State.

Oh, yeah. Okay, now it all makes sense. Yeah, we got professional athletes coming out of COVID, benching 225, 14 times. No A-C-T, no SAT. Come on in here. Yeah, we got all the number ones that we need. Geez, Ryan Day's doing it right over there. And so are you, man.

it's been an honor to watch you honestly learn about your story more and more and then watch you just kind of dominate the NFL while also doing that in college I think you have multiple Ohio State records but you were never the one that was being like heralded so you literally just had to sit there and watch your best friends get a lot of shine

and just kind of go through it I'll block down field I'll do whatever I got to do and now you're in the NFL and you're the superstar dude you've earned it you deserve it and we're happy for you I appreciate you thanks for having me Adidas picked the right one man did they did. Hey, if you know anybody

at Dias, let him know. We love ball too. We love ball two. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, a mecca-a-buca. Let's say over to hammer. What does he have? He has the most yards in Ohio State history. Is that what a mecca-a-luka's record is? I think it's the most receptions and yards. If I had to...

200 and some receptions, I believe, yeah. Yeah. And AJ, he was literally, we had Jackson Smith and Jigba, Marvin Harrison, Jr., and... Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson in there that entire They were the ones J.S.N, too. Yeah, they were the ones. Boom. Oh, you said that, sorry.

Yeah, it's okay. McLaren in there, too. You're a hammered dime time. I heard, it was the first one, yeah. Yeah, Terry McLaur maybe before. Maybe he got to for him. Oh, Lave. Yeah, yeah, he was never the guy that was talked about. So it's like, this guy's a superstar, but he's not

the guy. So I guess we just won't talk about him. And he didn't care, AJ. You've got to love that as an Ohio State Buckeye alumni. Like, that's what Ryan Day is selling almost, and they're actually living up to it. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it is. People internally, and you talk to any coaches or anyone affiliated with the program, they would tell you about Emeka, always, from the jump from when he got on campus.

So, yeah, he was a special kid from the beginning. But, yeah, it's, they got a good thing going that I'd stay in the receiver room. Hopefully they keep it going. I'll never forget it. I woke up, around 11 noonish, I guess. Have a little breakfast. Awesome situation. Hell of breakfast.

Me and my wide receiver coach, there's a lot of negatives from that era. But from a strictly become a professional athlete standpoint. Sure. There's some positives out of this thing. Working with your wide receiver coach every single day, getting that attention in detail, then lifting every single day because the games weren't happening. So literally how the amount of motivation that these coaches can say to them, too,

how are you going to work versus everybody else? Like everybody else is kind of in the dark right now. We don't know what anybody has because of games. We're not seeing public workouts. We're not seeing group workouts. So the motivation is just very much like, what are you doing today that nobody else is doing? And it feels like he's a guy that's like everything, actually.

I'm going to do absolutely everything. way to take advantage of a situation just locked in it probably wasn't just him it was probably other good receivers and probably dbs in that area they probably they probably had their games you know because once that was that the fall so they probably i was i don't know i was going to say knowing how it was with seattle like i bet it was probably pretty strict up there's like first one remember xFL game there was the nacho stand that's right Seattle dragon but he said he said his baseball season was canceled they obviously didn't have any games his junior or senior he didn't So I assume he played those football games because he was five-star.

He left early there, didn't he? It rolled early, yeah. I don't know. I hope they had a season, but there was a lot of talk about no seasons. And Washington certainly a state that in my mind, I naturally think, harsher restrictions. Some things played like three or four games, too. I know some senior classes got like two, three games. They got screwed.

Remember Trey Lance? He played what, like five or six games or whatever it was out there because of the COVID? So whatever. that he was able to get through all that and become the person he is, it's like incredible in between the years, which is all anybody's looking for. If you have a special talent and you're in between the years, you're different, you're going to be a guy. Baker's down there killing it. Mike Evans, what a great mentor. Chris Godwin, dog, he'll grow across the middle anytime, anytime. Sterling Shepard now, he's kind of like a revival of his career after

leaving the Giants down there. And then on the defensive side, you got Vita Vaya who will anybody in the league gave for you. And then obviously, Levanté David now is making no-look diving interceptions. The Buccaneers might be team of Destiny this year. They might. They got a good team. Tristan Wurston's back. Warks is back. They're going to get help in the phone. Yeah, Bucky Mike Evans, get back in there.

Before we go off of ESPN, a couple of stories, we got a hit. North Carolina football team's had a tough couple weeks, days, months. Yeah. It's terrible. It's awful. It's been pretty awful. It feels like there's nothing good. You know, that first

drive. Oh, man. Never take the problem. We were down there. He was going. Pini Pablo's up there. Didn't even perform. Didn't need him to. Just showed his face, placed one crazy.

Come on, North Carolina, raise up. And we all immediately almost took our shirt up. And spun around and all here, just was like, a hill of the country. Well, then the other team got the ball at TCU. And then they just continued to just beat the shit out of the team. And then what happened from there forward is the same thing. And then it's not just on the field where they're getting kicked.

they're getting kicked. It's all, every angle off the field is well, hey, did you know this? Did you know this? People are saying this. I wish they canceled the dock for the Hulu dock. I wish that wouldn't have happened. Yeah, but what if it was, what if it's supposed to be a three-year dock and you know, it's like the long-term process build? All I'm saying is

somebody that obviously worked with Michael Lombardi and Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick last year, Michael Lombardi the last few years. He's been a good guy to us. Oh, yeah, for sure. But boy, I guess these agents and players and everything are saying a different story. We think they still

got time, but boy, it is loud outside down there. Yeah, as someone who grew up idolizing Bill Belichick, this is basically the worst possible scenario on how this could have gone as a fan of his. I don't know if somebody is, you know, kind of doing this to like make it seem like it's terrible. If that's the case, maybe they should say something.

Oh, you're saying maybe there's a little bit of a work. Yeah, if there is some, because obviously Bill made a few enemies over his time in New England. It's just one of those things like, hey, someone's got to come out and say this isn't true because everyone who was a fan of them kind of is losing a little bit when it comes to that. And we'll continue digitally.

We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Oh, I forgot what day it was. Right there. It's Wednesday. Okay. Just so we're all in clear.

Yeah. It's Wednesday. Thank you. Shipley's here. That's right. That's right. AJ Hawks here. Yes.

See? He's here every day. So it's Monday or Thursday. Because he's on the wall and I'm here, so it's not a Friday. Exactly. So that gave four. This is like a guess who game. Mm-hmm.

You know, like A.J. is here he's not on first so it's not Friday it's a good game there's no game tonight okay so it's not Monday or Thursday BA's not here not Tuesday see I haven't got to that yeah fair I haven't got to Tuesday's Bruce day day Thursday was Chuck's day bingo yeah because McCarthy so I still think that my brain hasn't bought in completely you are the outlier though I should have looked over and saw you and said home day yeah Exactly. You know what I should have said.

What's that reference? Just like right now. I look like a hump. No, no. No, you're guns. What do we mean? What do we mean? I think you're that.

I mean, I'm talking about the, broad shoulders. You got broad shoulders. I'm talking about the trophy for the trenching. For the trench. What is happening? No, I'm talking about how we look just right now. It looks like this. There's a hump.

That was muffed over a bit. Yeah, humped over. Pee fog day. There we go. You'll pause. What day is it, Mike? Hope Day! You remember that?

Oh, yeah, Guyco? Come on. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. That was a good episode. Good commercial. I'm sorry. Good segment. Have I seen a lot of, um, what's that guy's name?

Mayhem. No, Stephen Hawking. I've seen a lot of him. There's been a lot of Stephen Hawking out. You got to stop. Michael Cole is calling these things. Michael Cole's calling these things. Some of me.

Some I think are real. I talked about that. With, we showed the Karen Lacey video on Monday that was made publicly available. Millions people saw the video. It's like, hold on. It feels like everything we were told about this is potentially different. And then two days later, the state police go like, hold on. There's actually full, full context.

We thought we had more context, full context. And then we find out there's even more context here. It's like that's kind of in live daily show stuff. And as more things are made available, obviously we will reference them, especially in something like this situation, but like in real time right now, being live show host with what AI is and what's possible with just like literally the click of a button on your phone, it's Wall Wall West right now at here. So whenever you hear somebody from like a legal standpoint, say, hey, this is what this is,

we think, oh, we can believe it, this is what it is. And then the state police literally two days later go, hold on, this is not what this is, though. And that's just in a very serious, that's legal and state police people. The rest of the internet, I mean, I don't know how we're ever going to be able to tell what is. There's no stop. There's no guardrails you can do at this point. It's out there and it's not going to get rolled back. It's only going to get better. So all you really need, though, and we've lived this through the internet era, is all you need is a basic editor on your phone now. And you can turn something, just a couple words change, and it looks legit. And that,

narrative of that message might be completely different and then people see that and then they set their agenda to that and their narrative and then the ripple effect of the butterfly effect they get of just one of these things and the carry it has and we're not saying that we aren't a part of i mean we all anybody that's on the internet right now it's kind of a part of it but it's a wild time of like we have to get context on shit for everything and literally yeah everything and i know stephen hawkins passed away well as smart man he's dead but if somebody didn't know that there's a video yesterday. I saw him going off the top rope with Michael Cole.

Stephen Hawkins flying. You were doing two backflips in the X games, dropping into a half pipe. I mean, unbelievable. The detail, and then to have Michael Cole, like, hey, need Michael Cole to voice this over. No problem, we got him. People are just chopping us in, and it's...

MLK? I mean, I saw MLK. He doesn't have dreams anymore. I am the dream. Got to leave MLK alone. Well, Tupac and Biggie came out there in WW. I think Michael Cole has any idea what he's a part of right now? I sent him the one. I sent him the Stephen Hawking one.

I'm like, bro, why did you say this? And I sent it. And he goes, what? And then L-O-L-O-O-O-O-O-O-O. Is that where we are with technology or something like that? It's like, we're just at the very beginning of this entire thing. Well, that's the thing. It's like right now people are just doing it to, like, show Stephen Hawking

winning the next game's gold medal. But, you know, at a certain time, it's going to be like, okay, we can actually kind of, you know, like put some people in some really bad situations, mold some narratives here, and it's going to be very hard to... We have to say, somehow that has to get figured out, especially whenever you're talking about, like, high school, college, people are still, they're growing up in this area,

and it's like, I mean, we get God. So, like, I couldn't even... I couldn't even imagine. I don't know how we play defense against it. We certainly have to. We will try our absolute best to be a part of the solution. We promise you that. Now, granted, are we part of the problem? Certainly. And that's day-to-day with what we're operating and seeing.

But we think, as a whole, we should be a part of solution, and we're going to try to do that. Mm-hmm. We all agree? Yeah. team on me team on three one two three all right we'll be back after this

wrapping up obviously this glorious hump day Wednesday we got can't do the ARR you can't do the ARR I mean what is that? You can't do the ARR just giving full context we got a hump right over here he's from Phoenix Camelback Mountain there it is that's what I'm doing yeah that's what I'm

doing I love this mountains over there yeah of course I love that I love ladies I feel like I'm taking a lot of ricochet shots right now it's not ricochet I don't think right Well, it started with that, and then I think Ty said your gut. No. Oh, yeah, that was a ricochet. I was just trying to infer.

I didn't know. Yeah, Ty, I don't think that was a ricochet either. That was definitely a cold-blooded shot from time. No, I love it. I'm the strongest I've ever been, so keep the shots coming. Oh, really? Yeah. We've got a pretty little strong husky over here right now.

I'm also the largest I've been in three years. You're doing any science? You're doing any science or no? Not right now. You need to try it. I'll tell you. Do you need to try the science? It's great. I know. I feel like I'm going to live forever.

Did you stop working out in the basement, AQ? No, no, I'm still doing it. I just... Oh, you're just balking up. Just don't eat very healthy right now. You remember he was spending like six hours. Oh, I'm a chef. Remember he was doing that?

Because he does fancy himself a good cook, which he is. He's actually good cook. We'll take time to cook shit. We'll go to cities, call on behalf of himself, by himself, to go see some chef's kitchens. Good dude. Good kitchens. Has respect for the kitchen game.

Every Super Bowl, he's a part of the chef off, like AQ. NFL player loves cooking things. AQ Shippley's here doing the chef off. So he does like cooking. But whenever he was like in his thin AQ days, we spent like five, six hours on Sunday meal prepping. And we had to get photos of him fucking cooking the same meat every week. I try new spice this week.

I did this. And I appreciate you doing that for the good of yourself. But how much happier are you now? Cool. Yeah, yeah. Real happy. We saw it. Yeah.

We saw it. Like Marshall Yonda. No way. He's happy right now. I don't know. Maybe he is. There's some people that are like that. Like Anthony Costanzo, he was force feeding himself whenever he was a left tackle. So I think him in retirement, I think he's like happy that he doesn't have to eat a bunch. But man, if you're a big guy who likes to eat, which normally big guys like to do, that's why they're big guys. It's tough. You become miserable when you don't eat. No doubt. And I'm at the point right now where you don't realize this is the funny thing, right?

Like when you're in meetings and your brain is always engaged, like your metabolism is always rolling, right? When you're not in meetings, you don't have the stress of games, you don't have the stress of practice, you don't have the stress. You're wearing crocs all the time. Yeah, all that. Yeah, exactly. Now I don't have that, and my metabolism's not quite as good as it once was.

I'm saying now with the crocs, the metabolism is going done. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Oh, there's camo? What are you wearing today? These aren't crocs. Basically. Things are sick.

Fell croak. Can't even see them. What are they? Cam Hayne's Speedlands Oh sweet You're underarmored then Remember I had the Oak Blood once Now we got the Cam we can't even see them

We can't Don't they like click you click them right They don't even tie them like a different Yeah boa they get the bow on There it is There's the bow I love no ties What the Those are really cool man

So those are called Speedland Speedland yeah Can you shoot a hoop Can you shoot basketball with it? Sure Dump with those on You're kidding me Yeah I'll be

Are they for like running trails or what? Yeah that's what they're for You're running trails in this thing? People do. Hey, I wouldn't mind run some trails. Come on. I'll get you some speed lanes. Where you wear them? Where Tone and I grow...

They're better than some of those shoes over there. We already had that talk. I don't. There was one... There was one that was... Oh, yeah, yeah, it was one. There was one. Those were a gift. Oh, yeah.

Those colors are there. We're not talking about that. I forgot. I already, I already, I already, I already. I already eliminated those from my mind. And you will not see those amongst the others over here. Okay, you will not see those ever. Okay, let's just move along. Where me and Tone grew up, though,

woods in between streets. So mine down at the bottom of the hill, of all the hills in a hilly town. So it did a lot of woods walking, you know, to get to people's houses, school and everything like that. I had no idea. That's what people call hiking.

Like, my wife was like, we're going to go hiking on like a big hike. I was excited. I'm like, I've never gone hiking before. And then we go out to the woods and we just start fucking walking through the woods. I'm like, this is walking through the woods. No, we're hiking right now. I'm like, I grew up doing this.

Literally, I've gone hiking 10,000 times if that's what we're doing right here. Those shoes right there, downhill, roll ankle. I'm already seeing it. Nope. Yeah, downhill, roll ankles. Because, you know, experienced hikers going downhill is a certain thing. You're going down sideways, you're doing quick feet. Those things, whew, you're done.

No chance. Those are not a speed man. Those are broken ankle bands. how wide the footprint is. Look how wide it is. All these new shoes, the new Nikes, the new Brooks, the new, everything. Super narrow, super narrow. That's why all these ankles are rolling. This one, wide.

Oh, so you're saying we got good grass with the ground, whenever we're hiking through the woods in our speed band. Are those waterproof? Can you get in the creek with those? Well, see, in Arizona, it doesn't take water very well, so when it rains, it basically floods the whole city. Last week, I thought they

were waterproof. My whole foot was wet. Didn't do anything. Whole foot. whole foot was wet so you just thought they were by looking at them that they were he's got to be i mean they're for hiking doesn't it rain that's fair dry hiking maybe yeah you're trying to walk through the woods you're not trying to walk through the mud who knows things speaking of we got some rain out here is it raining it's raining all right it's getting to a break it poured all day yesterday the fuck to shit how's this guy do it's get to a break who's there i don't know honestly i do not No, I do. There's just somebody.

Just know, now is not the time to be showing up here on Invitey. There's a lot of things in this Thunderdome. Okay, there's a lot of things in this Thunderdome right now. There's been a lot of things said, you know, some people in here. So maybe we did, uh, maybe we did. Funker to Haas a little bit here at the Thunderd Moon. We're all carrying. He was fucking that.

Precisely, what Tonger said. We'll be back on the other side. What the fuck is going on up? I have a deal. A lot of balloons. There's a lot of balloons out to happen. How does somebody's birth? Is that Scarguard out there?

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Football! It's magical. That's A.J. Hawk. The toxic table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt, fresh off a big time Yankee win last night. Thank you. Another one What time? 7.08. Where at?

At Yankee Stadium. On TBS or FS1, depending on, I mean, you know, hopefully TBS if they're smart. Yeah. FS1. Okay, FS1. Okay, there you go. FS1. Fox Sports won the night.

Blue Jays, Yankees. Crazy. Brink of elimination for Aaron Judge, who has a magical night last night. It makes baseball more interesting than I've seen it in some time. Baseball's in a little bit of a run right now. Now, Yankees moving on would be good for the storyline, but Toronto is one of the most signed teams in baseball, and they got people doing Charlie Hustles of Slides.

Oh, yeah. Vlad Guerrero, known for being incredibly fast and a great slider? No, I think he's actually slimmed down. I think he slimmed down quite a bit. Look at the horse running! This is just a guy knowing that, hey, we're going to need this run to win this ball game, so I'm going to sell out big time. He hit a dong right in this game?

Yes, he did. He's in a homer in three straight games. AJ, do you see this dude, Pete Rosen? That's right. I'll tell you what. Pete Rose, I heard about Pete Rose my whole life growing up and watching Pete slide in the first base like this is one of my favorite things ever. Yeah, they don't do that anymore. No, they don't. They don't do that. It actually slows you down if you slide in the first like that, but it looks great, though. Yeah, and slide into home obviously good because you've got to beat the tag. Good throw there. Could have got him. He's running his ass off right there. Yeah, big time. And it was. I mean, I was about as good of a throw as you can have maybe a little more cheese on it. But yeah, I mean, I think no one really looks at Vlad like he's some speedster. And I'm kind of thinking when I see him around there and I'm watching it live, like, oh, shit, he's going to throw him out by a wide margin.

And Vlad just kept going and then he hits the Charlie Hustle slide. You know he's going to be safe. Athlete, dude, I respect it, trying to put the team on his back nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler's here. We're about to have everything D.B., good, deep, bad D. How many teams will be represented here? Oh, I mean, teams, look, it'll be four good plays, two bad plays. Okay.

But I think maybe four total teams, maybe five. What? Oh, so we're doing... Yeah, we got one on both. We got one on... Okay. Which is a good omen so far. Okay, that is.

It has been a good omen for teams that are not only on everything D.B. Gooddy, but also in the trenches top five performing offensive line. Thank you, A. Kish, please, see you. Good to see you, A. Kewsh. Joining us live from Hammer. Dahn, Dodd. Is A. P. Tone, who's also a credited author for college football space two-time, two-time. We appreciate you, Tone. Yeah, baby, Tom.

In Tone, it's a big day because, ladies and gentlemen, it's time. for a show that we've been recording in the mornings on Wednesday, but I think it's much better if we do it live. It's another college football convo with Stanford, Steve. Yes, Steve, oh!

Good to see you, Steve, a man who has more miles logged in a football season than anybody else. Obviously, we see you working and grinding everywhere. We appreciate you a game day a lot. You obviously bring incredible knowledge and vibes,

not only except but the production room, and SVP and everything else you have going on podcast-wise. We appreciate you making time for us every Wednesday, but we think it was a necessity. Don't we think that tone? We thought it was a necessity to have at least one weekly college football pit stop and no better person than Stanford Steve tone. Yeah, college football delivers for us, so we have to deliver for college football and highlight, you know, some of the best games of the weekend.

Stanford Steve, week seven, we're heading to Oregon, brother. And if I had to describe Oregon, in one particular word, I'd say far. But if I had to say more words, I say it's beautiful. The trees are tall. and the football team is damn good under Dan Lannning. Indiana also great. What should we be thinking about it before we head out to beautiful Eugene Oregon? A lot, Pat.

There's a ton. Oregon now has the nation's long winning streak at home. Indiana, obviously, with Sig coming in. And this is the game that everybody has pointed to because they want to see him in this kind of environment with Mendoza. The similarities between the head coaches. I mean, look at that graphic there to win percentage. The wins, conference football playoff appearance, and then the quarterbacks, both, I mean, a ton of tuds, you know, 16 and 1, 14 and 1, have really verified these two offenses, and they're both transfers.

And I think it says a lot about these head coaches of constantly hitting home runs. I mean, we look at the teams. We got what, one, two, and four from the preseason already unranked. And then you got two guys that have hit home runs at the portal at the most of. important position on the field, and that is quarterback. Mendoza's been sensational coming in from Cal and Dante Moore, another former Pact 12 school, UCLA, coming in Oregon.

The idea here is that Indiana's better than they were last year. Is it good enough to go on and win a game against the top five opponent? That's the question that remains to be seen. Last year, we waited all year for them to go to Columbus, got their doors blown off. Got into the playoff, went on the road, got their door is blown off. The biggest question to me is how this is going to be different.

I look towards the Indiana defense. I believe they're better. They have pros at each level and Kamara on the defensive line. Fisher at linebacker and Pons. The corner sounds like he's going to play. He missed the Iowa game. So is Indiana ready to take that next step? It's a big challenge in Eugene.

You talked about the continuity on the defensive side. All three levels there. You talked about the D. Lyman and Kamara, the linebacker and Fisher, I believe, and then DB in Pons. They're They were all Big Ten last year. They all returned. The defensive coordinator, what's his name, Tone?

His name is, oh, I just had it here. Bryant Haynes. Haynes, he's been with Signetti for 11 years now. So you're talking about a lot of continuity on defensive side. I assume they think they've gotten better there. And then you talk about Mendoza. This guy's in the Heisman conversation, maybe number one overall pick conversation with this Indiana team,

and Signetti seemingly has a winner. Tone, what did he miss there? What are some nuggets that we need to also think about that maybe Steve didn't hit on as we head out to beautiful Oregon for college game day? guest picker TBD, I believe. Oh, wow. The, you guys talked about them being, both of them being top five in the Heisman conversation.

These two are number one and number two in the odds to go number one and number two in the NFL draft next season. So it's not like, like you have guys who are great Saturday players and great Saturday quarterbacks, and I'm just going to throw out like Diego Pavia. He is an incredible college football quarterback. Is he going to be in the NFL probably? Is he going to be an NFL starter? Probably not. But like these guys, you don't know.

I know. I just say there's great Saturday players, but then there's great Saturday players and great Sunday players. And these two are projected to be the top two as of right now. That can change, obviously. We've got a lot of time left there. But like, as far as these two teams go, they don't have any weaknesses. They could both throw the ball. They could both run the ball.

They both stop the run. They both stop the pass. Like there is no weaknesses on either of these teams. I think the difference potentially could be first and foremost, Ottson. It's one of the lot of stadiums. Will Howard said that last year was a lot of us. stadium he's ever played in. And then also, neither of these teams have any weaknesses, but Oregon

has a lot more of those five-star guys. So will that be the difference in this game? And that'll be a story for Oregon forever and ever, amen. You know, they'll have more five-star guys because of obviously the backing. But what Dan Lannings has been able to build with how far away this place is, honestly, when you get there, it's gorgeous. I mean, they got new buildings being built next to new buildings. So there's like new buildings, oh, no, not new enough. Let's make new buildings. And that's is what it is beautiful once you get out there. But when you talk about how far away it is, and them having to handle the travel

for every one of their games, you know, we're listening to James Franklin talk about going to UCLA, Lincoln Riley, talking about USC having travel. It's like, well, we all knew this was going to happen whenever this became the Big Ten, and the ACC's going to have it take place as well. Dan Lanning has never complained about that at all. Dan Lanning is just so locked in. I enjoy

the way he operates. I like the way his teams kind of fall in place, and I like the way Signetti operates too, AJ. This guy is confident. He feels like he has to be the way that he is. I think, and obviously special teams making huge plays is going to be a big difference. You talked about them losing to Ohio State last year. Punt returner, ball will punt, fumbled a punt,

and then all of a sudden, Ohio State kind of turns that thing into what it turned into with them. But Signetti has this mantra of confidence and attitude that seems like it's going to be able to carry over, AJ. There's a chance that what happened to them last year isn't what happens to them this year in the big games. I think it's more impressive in how they have started out this year coming off last year. Remember, we talked a lot, hey, okay, SIG's going to have to find a way to reload and do this all over again to continue to be, you know, to bring in the type of guys

and to keep the guys there that you need. So, yeah, I'm very impressed. This is a huge game. I mean, obviously, for Oregon, but for Indiana, it is like, hey, how good are we? And if we can come back, I think if Indiana goes into Oregon and gets a win. Like, that changes the landscape of college football. Completely, certainly in the Big Ten, which I'm looking at a couple guys. Iowa Hawkeye right here next to the Boston Conner,

and then a Penn State Nittney Lion sitting down here at the end of the end. of the desk and it's like wait a minute Steve Indiana now definitely in the upper tier of Big Ten football and the sustainability question has been answered for this year then we're going to ask it again next year just because it's new that Indiana's like this but this type of stage is

good for Signetti I think anytime they get this opportunity is good for them Steve absolutely they just have to be better in this instance going back and watching them at Ohio State last year their O line really struggled with going on silent count ID in the defense with Knowles

with all those excited blisses, especially on third down, and they got roughed up. They couldn't overcome. Ohio State just ambushed them. So I'm interested in that attack, or if they change that plan, I think it's too loud to go on the clap. But when you look at Oregon, I could see them with the pieces they have. How well they played defensively on the road. That's what it comes down to, Pat, when you look at these top teams, I think right now, Oregon, Miami, in Ohio State are in their own tier

because they have shown they can go on the road and their defense dominates and that's what I want to see out of Indiana. Their defense is better this year, but this is a true test. If Indiana wins, they should be number one in the country, no? Certainly, and you've said that about three teams now and that's because we're so early in the season,

but it feels like we've already known about who's who. Nick Roadcap is reporting that Signetti says, we have a veteran team, and the players have been around the block. They've been in games like this before. Boom. Big said, we've been there. We've done that. We've got guys that have experienced this before.

In our quarterback, he was in a couple big ones last year for Cal so he understands the moment as well. We're excited about this year's team and opportunity. And I'm sure before this game kicks off, we'll hear more from Sig. And that's a part of Sig football. And that has made Indiana good. Let's go to another game happening this weekend that I think a lot of people assume game day would be at because that is just kind of how it goes. The Red River rivalry, Oklahoma and Texas.

Mateer? Mateer! Steve, what should we be thinking as we head into, you know, down there at the Texas State Fair, one of the big ones? Yeah, it's all about Mathieu if he's going to play, Pat. This whole thing flips on its head if he's going to play. I don't see it here and how he just started gripping a ball last weekend.

You know, Venables has played games when he had Dylan Gabriel. He played it off like he was going to play in this game, fresh off a concussion against TCU the week before. that doesn't happen. Last year, Hawkins starts in this game. Not pretty at all. Hawkins starts last week, not pretty at all. I know they won 44-0, but you go back and watch the tape against a bad Kent State team.

It was not pretty. I still think the biggest difference in this game is Oklahoma's defense. What they are, and you know, tops in the country, it's scoring defense, the different guy. In this day and age, NIL, where depth is a factor for everybody in a concern, Oklahoma's got plenty of guys on the D-line, and that's what you want in this kind of games. Everybody's going to talk about Arch and that, you know, his struggles,

and I get it, five picks on the year. But that's Sark offense, you've got to be able to run the football. They can't run block or pass block. Florida ate him alive. And, you know, and then it gets into his head because then in two interceptions, there's nobody pressure in him.

So you can tell he's starting to get the happy feet. To me, it's, it's can Texas, you know, score on this Oklahoma defense. I trust Oklahoma more but it's a rivalry game. The unranked team when they're playing a top five team in this series has had a ton of success. Unranked.

But it's up in the air right there. It's there for the taking. They blow. If Texas puts it together but I haven't seen it yet and I trust Oklahoma more. That game against Florida was ugly. If Mateer's playing, this guy is actual Superman. Go ahead, D. Yeah, I know we got a lot of season left. Is there a contingency plan for Texas

that quarterback if Arch continues to think. On the other side, we thought this Texas defense would be dominant as well. DJ Lagway finally had his best game of the season. What's going on with that side of the ball on Texas as well? Yeah, Florida's offensive line dominated from the start, D. But they really had a good attack, you know, running those zone schemes. I think ball is a stud as a running back and Lagway getting Wilson back or starting his first game. I mean, that dude, six three, two 15 as a true freshman, that's a stud. I mean, catching the ball, carrying guys.

That was the biggest difference in me. It was Texas that they hadn't seen it from Florida. And credit to Florida. I mean, you just can't, you can't put them away. But as far as Arch goes, I believe there's way more concerns on that offense than the quarterback position. And I get it. Everybody wants to talk about the quarterback position, especially with Texas because of the last name.

But again, that offensive line has to tighten up. I don't care who's. You put another quarterback back there. They're only going to, you know, go backwards because they're not, they don't have a chance to succeed. Tighten up the defense and get that offensive line going. Hopefully Baxter's back to run the football. He's an all-American when he's healthy.

And the receiver's got to separate better. They just haven't had it. I mean, we see how well Golden has done at the NFL level. And he was in this wide receiver group last year. But he's gone. And these guys haven't stepped up. So I don't think there is a, I mean, there's guys obviously had a depth chart, but I think they got to tighten up everything else before they look at quarterback.

Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Mattier obviously is huge because it is a huge drop off to Hawkins. But Steve talked about the Oklahoma defense. If it wasn't for Ohio State, this would probably be the best defense in the country. Okay. They are, let's see, here makes sure I want to get it right. Number two in points, number one in yards, number one on third down, number five versus the run, number two versus the pass,

number two in sacks and TFLs. Florida sacked arch six times last week. Florida now has nine sacks on the season. Okay. Oklahoma had 10 sacks against Auburn in one game. They are second in the country in sacks and TFLs. Like, yes, Mateer Hawkins is huge, but what if Texas doesn't score is my point?

Now their team total was over 21 and a half. I would definitely lean towards the under on that unless they find some fucking magic fairy dust this week and fix all their problems. But it's the Oklahoma defense that Steve has talked about and I think is definitely probably going to be the defense or the difference in this game because Texas was supposed to be the Oklahoma defense

and they were until last week. Don't know what happened last week. Texas was Oklahoma defense last year. Yes. Oklahoma's defense with Venables feels like that was going to be good regardless. It's kind of everybody's thoughts. And then now you pair that offense. Mateer?

What is his deal? Dr. Shin? He's the goat. Dr. Shin did a month and a half long recovery surgery in two weeks. Got it back in two weeks. He's a son of a bitch. Mateer's a cowboy, brother.

Hey, hey, Dad got a, Arbuckle's dad got a fucking belt buckle. Won that shit. Wrestling Steers, okay? That's an offense corner. I got fucking Materia getting an opportunity. These boys are tough. Tough.

Built. Oklahoma, tough. That's right. I believe it. You know what sucks for the Oklahoma? What sucks for the Oklahoma offense, too, if Meteer can't go, they're 97 in the country and running the ball. So I don't have a lot of confidence in either offense if Meteer's out. How about Tone saying, are they going to score a point?

Now, they're over under is 21 and a half. I'm wondering if they're even going to be able to get a first done is what Tone's basically saying because of the D-Line. And also, Vennibles Cooks on that back end. There's a lot of moving pieces. They're a smothering defense. Have been for some time. Go ahead, Steve. this totals 42 and a half it's the lowest this century in this game

42 and a half longest in this century all right let's go ahead one quick thing pat i worry about mature i get it oklahoma hates texas i understand that but this is one game you've got to have that guy for the rest of cc season you can't you can't run him out there and then he's out for the year if he gets dinged up again i just can't see that happening win the game with your defense and move on that's got to be the goal for oklahoma If you listen back to you saying SEC season, you should be proud of yourself.

That's a fucking tough one with your accent. My accent is well. It's not easy. And you drop that thing right in the middle perfectly. You should be incredibly proud. Can't wait for that one. And also, there's a huge one down in the SEC. Obviously, we just had a chance to go down there and celebrate Nick Saban getting recognized for going into the college football Hall of Fame.

Alabama is taking on Missouri. What do we need to know about Missouri? is I feel like we told the Ty Simpson and Alabama story last week in pretty good detail and they get a huge win over Vandy. Yeah, all these teams that we mentioned, we've seen them go on the road and, you know, we've

seen them play against great competition. I don't know what to think of Missouri. You know, Drickowitz does a great job with that offense. They throw a ton at you in the run game as far as eye candy, but they're 109th in strength of schedule. And you got Alabama coming in and got their ass kick that

Florida State, went on the road and gutted one out against Georgia and then gutted one out with their defense against Vandy. I mean, you were there. That game was up for grabs, man. Vandy went up and down the field in the first half and they only came away with, what, 14 points, two turnovers inside the 10-yard line, but that was Alabama taking it away from Vanderbilt, and that was really impressive. So the question to me is Ty Simpson with this, was it fifth, yeah, fifth-ranked pass offense averaging about 325 in the air. What does it look like on the road in an early start versus an unproven team who has a great runningback in Amad Hardy.

He's leading FBS with 146 yards a game. I just don't know what to expect from Missouri. That's the tough thing about this one. Tom, what do you expect from Missouri in this one? Yeah, I think it's similar to last week kind of with Bama and Vandy. It's going to be can Bama stop the run? Because Vandy came in last week averaging over 200, whatever yards a game. And they in Bama, they held them to a decent amount.

They had the long rushing touchdown to start the game. But Mizzou, great against the run and great running ball. They are number one in the country in stopping the run. And Bama just got their run game going last week with Jam Miller. And then they're number three in the country in running the ball. Steve talked about Ahmad Hardy. He's got 700 some yards rushing already on the season, number one in the country. So it's going to be, can Bama stop the run?

Because they're still 88th versus the run. And then that Bama defense, they've only given up seven points in the last two. games in the second half. They give up seven to Georgia and none to Vandy, if I'm correct. So they've given up yards and points in the first half, but none in the second half. But Ty Simpson is, I think, the best player, or has been the best quarterback. Pribula has been good out of the transfer out of Penn State running and throwing, but Ty Simpson's been incredible. So can Vandy, or sorry, can Mizzou stop the Alabama pass game? Ty Simpson is fun to watch live. He's a leader out there. He's got good energy, he's got good

juice. They got athletes all over the place and shout out to Kalin DeBoer sitting in the pocket taking all the heat that he took certainly after the loss of Florida State and now they look like they're ready to go on a run. That's Isaiah Horton right there I believe. He is just eye test, walk by you. Holy

shit. I mean is that a tight end? It's a wide receiver. He puts on 10 pounds. He can be tight end. He could be, I mean, he is everybody looks the part obviously. It's Alabama. It's Alabama. And they're playing like it too. good for them a couple other stories around college football that the boys want to ask you about

Stanford Steve let's start with a member of the Penn State crowd Super Bowl champion thank you Shipley yeah Steve you just mentioned beau down in Missouri and obviously hindsight's 20 20 and maybe they should have kept him based on how Drew Allers looked but is there any noise right now with Ethan Grunkmire, maybe stepping in for Drew Aller, because they're getting ready to play a Northwestern team that beat UCLA, UCLA beat Penn State, and they're blaming it on the travel, yet Dan Lannning traveled and won't. So, just wondering, just curious about that. Hey, Q's got questions about Penn State right now. Okay.

I thought he had the answers for Penn State. Yikes. That's what I thought he was talking about. Hey, that's a good call, Steve. Yikes. That's a good call. More problems, not solutions. Unbelievable.

Yeah. You know, I got to watch them practice Thursday when I was there, AQ, and he does have the build of Pabula. And everybody goes back to what Pabula looked like when he came in, saved the day against Wisconsin. And then you think about Cotell-Nickey, where he came from, and Kansas was the best when they had Daniels running that offense. You know, with mobility and all the misdirection they run,

you know, yeah, Pabula probably looked better in that system. but then you go back to last week the offense wasn't the problem the defense got diced up nonstop even 270 yards UCLA ran for against Penn State who I would bet on has every higher ranked prospect

in the matchup when you look at UCLA's offensive line against the defensive line in the quarterback run killed them as you saw there with Nico so I don't know what to think of Penn State because you get what you want you battle all the way back, when your backs were against the wall, against

a top team in the country in Oregon, and then you go out there and look like that against a winless team, they got to tighten up both sides. And that starts with the coaching staff. When you look at it, you've got to get this thing ironed out and what the

defense looked like last week. James Franklin's never lost this kind of game at Penn State. 24-point favor on the road. He's never lost those games. All this stuff is first that I think you know, that it got to get ironed out, and we'll see. You think it's going to work out, or what you do?

Well, I saw the UCLA coach now has as many top 10 wins as James Franklin does. Oh, New Heisels. Jerry New He's a good coach in there. Okay, the guy found out he was calling plays on Wednesday. So it was the first time I had to call his dad, let him know, hey, I'm calling plays. He said, this weekend? And he did. And he did a fantastic job.

It was one of the greatest stories of college football this past weekend. And it reminded us all of that even if it, appears as if you have no hope no optimism at all just about to get absolutely bamboozled by greatness and you are just a sack

and a pile of shit if that's how everybody is viewing it you can win because UCLA beat Penn State how many points 24 point spread yeah we should remember this as inspiration The Cincinnati Bengals won four games the year before they went through the Super Bowl.

Okay? So every NFL team can say, hey, ass wants a Super Bowl. And if your team is completely out of it already, like UCLA has been since before kickoff of the first game. Okay. Rude to say, reality is situation. You can get a win over Penn State. You can get a win over the number one team in the country at one point. You can have a promising dub that can change the trajectory of your entire program.

program. I heard UCLA got some more commitments. Really? All he needs one of those big. James Franklin actually helping UCLA out all outside out of nowhere. Getting these big time wins. Because UCLA is in Los Angeles. True. It is in Los Angeles, as we found out from

the Big Ten Media Days last year when coach took his I mean it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, UCLA football. Guys leaving why can't win there? Well, who's there next? Well, the way he described is it's in Los Angeles. That was all I really had to say about. Okay, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And then they just smack Penn State around.

Just absolutely demoralized. Well, it ended up being too far of a trip for James Franklin. I'll tell you what, City of Big Lights out there, too. There's a lot of stats coming out about maybe not so much anymore. Well, yeah. Which is a bummer. I don't like that. The question will be, and we'll look back on this moment, is what's UCLA going to do when the dolphins fire Mike McDaniel?

And they hired Jerry Neuheasel will be their newest head coach. And then you lose, how are you going to replace that guy? I don't know. I think you just bring actually Joey Molanaro in there and just tell him to be. Yeah, and he never left. Yeah, never left. His B. New Heisel. I don't know if you saw this AQ. Good call.

I got good news for you against Northwestern. Okay. You guys are honoring the 90s end zones with the paint job. Wow. Remember these days? You remember these days? Levar Arrington jumping over people. This was in the end zone.

They should have never changed that end zone. That looks really good. It does look really good. Now, I don't know what it looked like last week. Yeah, what's the other one? What's the other one look like? I asked Bruce, Penn State. football tweeted this out. They said we're going to honor

or something look at. Look at this. That's what they tweeted. And it was something about honoring tradition, basically, is what they said. There's no real other context. Like, what does it look like last week and when, what year exactly and all those things? But we do know it looks cool. That does look cool. They should keep that. I don't know if they actually had anything in the end zone

for the Oregon game. I think it was just blank. Well, I walked across it, gum. We walked across it. We should have a video actually. Yeah, I'm trying to find the video right now. Huh. Is it the iconic white diamonds. I think it was censored with blue on the outside.

I could be wrong. What do you mean? The whole entire pencil? That's the change? Yeah, that's a different font. They went different font. Damn, that's dummy, dog. I love that.

That is dummy. Dude, that's lit. They should sell shirts with that. They'll make some new merch. They got new, uh, going back to the uniforms, too, with the white collar. Holy, no way. Fuck, dude. Yeah.

That's sweet. That's what I played with. Yeah, there's pictures of hand in magazines. That's right. You know, and white collar. white collar good for Penn State, too, I think. What was it, a blue collar before? Yeah, right.

It was something. The blue didn't match. I heard the whole story this week. I literally listened to the video. What was the story? It was when Russell was making the uniforms. They were trying to make better uniforms. The blue on the collar didn't match the blue of the jersey.

So the equipment manager said, hey, just put the white on there. Joe won't even notice. And then Joe approved it. So Joe knew. Jesus. About the jersey. In this case, Joe Dinna. Yeah.

That's what I'm kind of saying. Okay. Big college football slate this weekend. Obviously, we got a big one in Oregon that we're going to be lucky enough to be on the grounds of in the morning, early morning over there. They always show up for us since I've been on the show. It's very cool. Pitch black, cold, probably a little bit of rain. And it's like a perfect setting for football.

And their crowd, their students, show up for us in a big way. Obviously, their mascot is electric. I mean, he's going to do something. It's going to be a show. There's been live animals, I think, a few different times. When have we been out there? I, uh... What kind?

The duck. Which, Steve, Steve, I don't want to have this conversation. There are people listening, obviously. This is live. Steve's fear of ducks is disgusting. Like, think how big Steve is. Think how big it is. Just kick him in the head, Steve.

Exactly. I know, but I'm sitting. down and the thing they put it on the desk right next to me. And the thing's neck is longer than my arm. I don't know what it's going to do, man. He freaks out. That aflac cuts me out. It ruins his entire... He just stares at me.

He just stares at me and I got all these guys chirpered on the desk at me. Yeah, so whenever, look, he is frozen right now. That duck completely froze him. You know, Steve, always good vibes guy. I think that's like one of Stanford Steve's thing. Always good vibes. Even when he's not a part of the conversation

you look over, Steve's in his area. He's either in ear, chit-chatting, saying something, or he's just over there, good vibes, good vibes. As soon as this duck shows up, bad vibes. Just immediately bad vibes. And it's through an entire commercial break. The Ducks handler, Affleck Ducks handler, is placing it right in front of him, petting it. And Steve is just frozen, just like, don't, I don't even want to look at it. So he has ears in, nobody else says, so we can talk directly to him, right? Because our mics go to his ears, and we just start, like, shit-talking him refute. You actually have a fear of these things, You actually are scared of that, Doug?

He was better behaved this year. But last year, as soon as he got on the desk, he was just eyeball me the whole time. And I just, I don't know. Yeah, he got in my head. You've been picking good. How'd you do this weekend? You've been two and one, two and one, two and one, two and one, two and one, two and one.

Yeah, one and two. It was inevitable. It was inevitable. How'd Theo do? How'd Theo's picks do, do we see? Five and three, I think. Not terrible. This pickers have been awful.

Whoa. They don't have any spread. It's bad. Like, the best, I think, six and three is the leader. Yeah, but this has been a tough year. You've been doing well. It's been a tough year.

I'm just saying. You've been good when you go on the island. That island. Come on, brother. I was looking for that, too. Everybody heard me in production meeting. Hey, is there any picks where everybody's on the same page, please? I'm looking to go the other way.

Yeah, we got one here, blah, blah, blah. And then somebody took it. I'm like, all right, sweet. But I'm certainly looking for this. Especially with the way these sports books have been winning, brother. Not just in college. In the NFL, they've been really winning. They've been kicking the shit out of all of us.

That's why we'll continue to listen to you. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Can't wait to see you in Oregon. Appreciate you guys. Hey, how would you describe Oregon? Green. I'll see you over there. Ladies and gentlemen, stand for Steve.

Out of me. Steve. It is beautifully green. I mean, very lush. You might get a little early fall foliage. Oh, man. Oh, my God.

you land in a postcard over there like getting there long sure okay it's a long fight over there but then once you get there we get there as the sun was rising and it's like you got the early the trees are just beautiful it like it is it's majestic i think that's the only way to really describe it but it takes a long time to get there but once you're there it's beautiful tourist it's longer going or coming back jet stream west to east jet stream east to west got you don't know what you're fighting because this fucker's invisible and it can pop up out of nowhere you can have a four and a half hour flight that becomes a six hour flight and you know on the flip side you can have a five hour flight that becomes a 345 350 4 or 415 maybe on the way back west to east you can really steal some time

coming west to east. East to west, though, you have no idea what you're into until you get up there. And then all of a sudden, it's like, have we moved? Why is this map say we're still in a, oh, we've got an 800 knot headwind or something like that? It's like, did we not know? It just came out and know where to come from. Well, that's a bigger question. What does happen?

How do these things, you know? But it was cold this morning, did you? Was it cold over there in Ohio? Yeah, it was pretty chilly. Feels like we're starting to get into the best. Starting to feel. Yeah. Are you guys doing fires over there already?

or we cutting the grass at night? We love fires. I love walking around and smelling people that have fun. Like, smelling a fire going on somewhere in the neighborhood. That's the best. Yeah, a little bonfire smell is always good, isn't it? Oh, you just... Oh, it's best.

Oh, you imagine just a little crack of the logs. Then going inside after being there being the one that just for some reason, a smoke was just blowing directly at the whole fucking time. Like shit for the next fucking four days. The whole fucking time. How come I just got up and moved the other side of this fire and this motherfucker just keeps following me here.

It's all right. Everybody else having a good time. I hope we're all happy here. I'm getting fucking hotbox by the goddamn fire. But you smell amazing. You do smell amazing. It's that time of year. It's a great time of year. Football is obviously awesome. It provides so many amazing things. There's one particular position in football that rarely gets the credit or the accolades that it deserves. So we have a program and a show here that likes to celebrate the big guys, the overlooked guys, the underappreciated groups of NFL teams.

That's why every single week we've been given out a one. for the top five performing lines, offensive lines each week in a segment called In the Trenches with AQ Shipley. Yeah. Thank you. Let's go and see who are the top five performing offensive lines from week five, top five, week five.

Number five, Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions. And let me tell you something. Defensers are doing a great job trying to reign on the parade of offensive linemen, but Detroit continues to show up after week one. Let's take a look at this play right here. We're going to get three tight ends

after they motion over, Brock, right? We got duo, the best run playing football, in my opinion, because we get downhill and we beat people up. We got double team, double team. Graham Glasgow. Look at that backside cut. Bodies on the floor. Get down the field.

Zero sacks allowed for this group this week. David Montgomery, obviously, returning home, playing in front of his sister for the first time and long time. That was a really cool moment to see. But it feels like Sonic and Knuckles are a great one-two punch, but this offensive line is creating holes in aem-bike to run through? Is that kind of the conversation? We're getting to that point.

I mean, listen, they were down Taylor Decker this week, but I love what they did this week with the three tight ends. Look at that rock technique by Brock Wright. I love it. What a cut by Monka? Yeah, so good. So good. What were they calling them again, Fox?

Well, week one, they didn't really show up. So instead of Sonic and Knuckles, they were calling them ass and cheeks, and none of us liked it, but that seems like a really long time ago now, so we don't need to be doing that. AJ, that's what they were calling them up in Detroit. They were saying these two running. That's disrespectful. I agree.

I feel like, especially with how great they were. Foxy, hopefully they continue playing well and they don't go back to that, because that would be a shame. You don't want him to go back to ass and cheeks? No, I don't want Foxy's little, you know, his heart to be broken. I think that would really hurt him. I think Foxy was a part of the group calling him ass and cheeks. I mean, I definitely vocalized it a little bit, but yeah, we won't be going back to that.

Foxy said peanut butter and jelly, ass and cheeks. These guys, we need to get over it. What a cut there by Montgomery. Also, through a touchdown, was he a quarterback in high school? Yes. Had to be, right? He was. I think I heard that during the commentator was saying, like, back in his home city where he was a

quarterback, I think he was probably a five-star quarterback if I had to guess. Yep, and he threw a touchdown last year as well. I hope he wasn't a five-star quarterback. Why? He's going to Iowa State. It would just been a... You could have went somewhere, you know, Ohio State, Alabama, something like that. Iowa. Maybe. It worked out for him, obviously, but...

Hey, go Cyclones, by the way. They own that state, don't they football, like? Two years in a row. No, they don't. They're doing good right now, and I want them to keep winning, which is why it breaks my heart, because we need a team from Iowa. He can't be going out and fucking losing the Cincinnati. since I just go football team. That line felt stinky.

It felt stanky there for a little way. I was very confused and since he just handled him. Rocko Beck, try to make a run. Let's go back to the top five, performing offensive lines of week five. Number four, the Denver Broncos. Whoa, a lot of talk about their defense coming into the season. Bo Nix another year. Offensive line feels like you are a big fan of them.

Yeah, they're starting to play really well too. And I think Sean Payton's doing a fantastic job, play calling. He is setting up the sequence very, very well right now. and let's take a look at this. We're going to send the fullback in motion, make it seem like we're going to go zone left. Guess what? We're going to bend this back, bring the full back back,

insert. Look at Quinn Miners and McGlinchy on the double team. They brought the fight to Philly. Most physical team hands down in this game was the Denver Broncos. I like that the Denver Broncos' offensive line continues to be good. Sean Payton said before he got the job, after he got the job before he went into the building, we were talking to him at Radio Road, Super Bowl.

And AQ just immediately walks straight up to him and goes, you need to fix that offensive. And he goes, I know it's like my number one thing. Wasn't that his number one thing? That was the number one thing, and he brought everybody in. They're all new people. Every single person is new from when he got the job. I appreciate, though, that he understands that the offensive line is going to make or break you.

That was the thought. Now, obviously, he gets Bo Nix in the first round, who he likes. He fell in love with throughout the entire combine draft process. But his number one felt was like, we need an offensive line. Feels like you need to have the big boys up front if you want to do anything good. The game is won in the trenches. That's why number three perform an offensive line from week five. the Dallas Cowboys

2-2 and 1 they got a tie they got a tie congrats to the Cowboys not a lot of conversation about them in their offensive line as of late

that one tie could be huge but let's talk about this offensive line four of five offensive line starters down still ran for 180 yards and it starts with Clayton Adams

Clayton Adams if you remember he was Arizona's run game coordinator a year ago they had a very good run game big loss goes to Dallas guess what Dallas's run game last year

not very good Now, very good. He's an instrumental part on why they're succeeding. Look at this trap play. Right up the middle. Again, we just got to get you to the next level. We break some tackles again. You can't control who you're playing on defense.

But the New York Jets stink, and they looked really good against them. I love the fact that the Dallas Cowboys, they can still go win at all. They could. They could go win it all. Think about what the conversation was about Shoddy just a few weeks ago. And then George Pickens being able to do what George Pickens is doing. Offensive line having to move some pieces around. still have a success? Good luck down here, Shardy.

Yeah. They also have like kind of a budding young rookie. The Florinoid kid, I think he had like 110 yards is kind of like his opportunity now that C.D. Lamb's going to be out for a little while. Like if he's good all of a sudden, him, Pickens, and CD, when CD gets back, if they can hang on, they're going to be a problem. The Dallas Cowboys. McCarthy said he liked this team. He did. Coach Carth said, I like the team. I like the locker room. Ed and George Pickens, obviously, he adds a little fire in there. I like what

doing he obviously would know it better than anybody and holy hell I don't think any of us could have guessed this team well a couple of us could have why is that one out here one in the back could have guessed oh so you're saying the team they played against certainly providing an opportunity to get an award for being one of the top performing teams in the league ladies gentlemen congratulations to the caroline panthers records two and three number two performing offensive line in the league coming out of week five how comes that uh how come make you rushing 206 for Rico Dowdell.

Oh, they got the Rico half tossed at him. And let me tell you, this play is not blocked perfectly. If you watch this single this is in the trenches, what are we highlighting?

Just because here's where I'm going to go. Let's watch this. So first of all, the combo on the left's incredible. Let's watch the center. Center and right guard gets split. I talked to Harold Goodwin their offensive line coach.

He was mad that this happened, but if you look at that, if we can rewind that one more time, watch the center as he comes back, puts a little kill shot up on this linebacker, but guess what? It knocks off that defensive end.

that was going to make the play because he comes back. Again, the front side shade, lost in the sauce, boom, stops the defensive end because he runs into the center, and that gets the home run. They block three guys. One guy blocked three guys. He didn't do it perfect, but every good man get one, every great man get two. Maybe even three, says the center, whose name is. Oh, no.

I got it. I got it. Cade Mays. They're on to their third center. On to their third center. Damn. Down to their third right guard, too. Harold Goodwin, Joe Gilbert.

You guys remember Joe Gilbert? Oh, Jay-G. Doing a good job with their offensive line down there. A ton of injuries. Robert Hunt's out. There's also a watering hole down there. What's the name of that watering hole? I got the hoodie.

Remember the bar down there? And then Charlotte, I got the hoodie. They sent it to me. Dale Jr.? No, that Dale Jr. He had a good place. I don't know if it still does. If he does, you need to get a Whiskey River,

maybe is what his place is called. That was right near the Howl at the Moon, which was doling piano place, which had a bridge that connected to the hotel I was staying in. And I'll tell you what, that was way too easy of access for me to be able to get there and get out. I forget the name of the place.

Down in Charlotte? Yeah, it's Joe G. goes there and drinks all their beer. Of course. And he said, hey, we watch your show in there once in a while. I'm like, Coach, that's awesome. And then he sent me a sweatshirt, and it's a great sweatshirt. It's like a light blue one. I forget the name of it.

God, I feel bad. Like the bar or something? Yeah, I forget the name. But I wore it. It was very nice to them. they got great cold beard out from what i've been told and i'll tell you what charlotte good city oh yeah yeah like carolina panthers being good would be great for that city like any of their teams being good would be great for their city charlotte is a great city good hosting city great i was there

2011 for one year great i can imagine how much they've grown and how much better of a city now and to that point when that was cam's rookie year and like they had a good stretch when he was there where that city was buzzing obviously you know carolina you got a good football team they're going to show up I think it was a lot of rooftop stuff down there in Charlotte. From my recollection, I spent some time in the offseason down there a few different times, had a couple friends that lived in that city. A lot of West Virginia people head down to Charlotte. It shuts off at like 5, 6 o'clock because it's a banking city,

but then there's a lot of rooftop stuff that kind of happens, and then it has a good vibe. Charlotte has a really good vibe. Would be cool if their team was good. Sounds like through their offensive line, they got a chance. Congrats at Tepper, you know, much different times. Now Jerry Jones is doing stuff to fans. Exactly.

Well, he meant to... AJ, do you hear that? He meant to give a thumbs up or maybe a pointer even, that middle of the finger just pops out there every time. I think that holds up. You think they shave off 100K of that fine, maybe? I think he would love to defend himself in that court.

Now, I know what you've done with a couple of the other guys that have been in here. For me, it's very reasonable. I'm almost fucking 90 years old. You try to put your thumb up when you're 90 years old, maybe every once in a while with life you've been through that middle. finger just fucking follows it, you know what I'm saying? You never know what that person was saying to me either.

I don't have that on camera. He said a lot of bad things about me, in my family. Isn't he a big Eminem guy? That's how Eminem does it in the movie. I thought that was the whole entire reason. Everybody in the 313s. Yeah, yeah. A mile. He was always a thumbs out there's a chance. I mean, Jerry Jones, I think he throws a multitude of middle fingers.

I would assume so. I think he's got a lot in his bag. I think he can drop that thing sideways on you. I think he'll take that thing out of, oh, what's this? Oh, out of the pocket. Fuck you, Michael. You know, the people that do the makeup they're like oh wait a second let me check my but how about that one right there and then bang let me go ahead and get that you know that's why i think he probably has an abundance of fuck you if i had to guess that's why not knowing you're doing it is he's an expert

with you so that's uh maybe you did lose that fastball the middle finger fastball a lot of these old guys are these days feels like it's a bummer not really but I mean, life, time. Mm-hmm. Passes. Time. Why you punish me. Can you think about tomorrow

when all the pain and sorrow running free? Because tomorrow's just another day. And I don't believe in time, time, time you ain't old friend of mine. But time gets everybody. That's basically what that song is all about. Undefeated. A couple things in this world. Time is certainly one of them.

Let's talk about the number one performing offensive line in week five in the trenches. The Washington Commander! Yeah, wow. Hey, Q. Shipley, how come the Washington commanders that are number one performing offensive line? anywhere. The Indianapolis Colts, we just beat the Raiders by fucking a hundred. Yeah, well, they didn't run the ball very well, and they had Max Crosby and the boys on the other side stopping the run, but they had touchdowns.

He had 60 yards, an average less than three yards of carry, but who's counting? But the commanders, unbelievable. Commander's really good. Cliff Kingsbury in his bag, as usual. One of my favorite plays I used to run when Cliff was there, if you watch Zach Kurtz, bluff the end, climb up, does a great job locking up the linebacker. Watch Tyler Beaudish. Chris Paul

with the kickout, Beautech around, seal the edge. How easy is that? That's a big game. Between the sideline and any member of the Chargers there. Wow, is this all game like this? So they're leaving the Georgia. AQ, explain that. Is that Derwin James out there on Ertz?

That is Derwin James outside. That's not on Earth. Ertz gets inside. But right here, that screws him, though, because if you got, he's got him man-to-man. Okay, I got him. He goes in. I still think he may be running the route, and it makes you take yourself out of the play, and you're out leveraged already right here, both two guys.

That's exactly what this tight end bluff does. Whenever you have a tight end, you do not want to put them on the defensive end. So you bluff, you send him inside. That takes Derwin jumps because you can see him stacked right there over top of Earths. He's got him in man. It sets up the block for Beaudish and everything is all downhill from there. That's actual chest there. I roll some jujitsu with Matt Matreone and Chris Lytle.

And I don't think Matt Matrione is known as like a good jujitsu roller. I don't think people would say this guy's big strength is jujitsu. I don't think it would say that. We were old, I tapped out, end of the story, long story short, I tapped out four times in a minute, okay? It was not, it ended with both my arms being broke. But at one point, I thought I was doing pretty good. I thought I had him, like, he's a big lad, obviously former New York giant football

player from Purdue, and he goes on to UFC, he has a great career, and then he also went into, was that one, he knocked out the Russian guy, Matt. Oh, yeah, strike force or whatever? Oh, bellator. Yeah, Bellator. Bellatory. No, it was great career from around. here and we're rolling or whatever in the basement of this house that was a jam that was very

i'd say gritty is a good way to describe it who knows how many bones have been broken there and i thought i had him and then all of a sudden he would just like uh stab right underneath my ribs like he would take his fingers and stab my wrist which would make me automatically move like this and as soon as i move like this he puts his arm right around it's like he's doing three things to my body just for me to adjust that's what that play's doing right there you're forcing derwin james down giving the leverage immediately to the uh guard that's pulling there. Yeah, the center that's pulling.

It makes it an easy block for him. Like he already made the block. It's like that's actual chess. That's like actual setting things up. And they have to react that way. Like whenever he's stabbing underneath my ribs, I don't know how they don't. My body naturally goes, ah, just like a little bit.

And all that half inch or centimeter took, boom, he got me on the other side. Darwin James steps in one foot. Even if it's not as far as he did on this particular play, it makes the life a lot easier for that center. And this is what you chitchat about with play colors and play designers, like setting the offensive lineup for success, right? Isn't that kind of this entire conversation?

Work smarter, not harder. I mean, and the good coordinators are finding ways to do it. And, again, the other thing that's not talked about enough either here is when they send that guy in motion, AJ, you know this. Debutt, you know this, right? When they go that, now the tight ends by himself over here. That's called one by three. So everybody else is to the opposite side of the field.

There's only one contained guy, and that's Derwin. And you know he's in man coverage. Like AJ said, when he's going down with that crack block, you got to cover it like a crossing. here's the top five performing offensive lines a week five congratulations the Washington commanders picking up the throne Carolina Panthers big time win against Miami Dolphins lands them at number two in the top five then Dallas Cowboys good for them four new pieces

at the offensive lines they're in the trenches celebration then Denver Broncos and Detroit Lions wrap up the top five a cute that's a cool photo you with the boys flanking you there thank you for spotlight and the big boys and letting us know who's good who's ass and who's going to going to maybe go on a run if they end up on this particular list. Absolutely. The boys played well this week.

And the interesting thing is you don't have a clear cut number one, number two, number three like we did last year. It's something different every week. But how well the offensive line plays is how well the team is going to play. Well, the Colts, obviously the best team of football. They are. They're scheming it up. They're scheming it up. Can you put that somehow? AJ, do you see them? I don't see them.

They're up here. You know, are you like the harshest critic because it, you know, it's your old squad and you don't want to have to, like, pump them up and be like a home? No, I actually, I love their group. I think they're a top five offensive line in the league for the whole season. I just didn't think they were top five worthy this week. Just took on Max Crosby and the boys in one by 100. They were in the backfield most of the game.

Well, Max looks so cool, by the way. So cool. His shoes, awesome. So good. Everything, the swag is incredible. Get him out of there. Now. Where?

Max. No, he's a raider. That's like a big part of why he hates so many people because people are saying he needs to move on. And then it's like, no, you're a raider, you're a pillar guy. He is the perfect raider, by the way. Yeah, he's the perfect raider. And maybe it is fun. We should talk to Miles Garrett.

Like, going one in 16 is probably sick. It's just one of those things. Like, don't you want to win a football game? You know? And when we're talking about old guys losing it, I don't know if we can just let Pete Carroll sleep. Oh! Guy was talking a lot of junk about winning games every single year

before the season started. Now they're one in four and his pony. Gino Smith. The real Hooper, if you will, after week one, looks like absolute shite, man. If you run back to Tyler Warren, by the way, holy fuck, I forgot about this. You run back to Tyler Warren touchdown,

and you see who's covering him, right? Trey Tucker, their leading receiver this year is covering Tyler Warren on his touchdown on Sunday. What's going on? If we run that play. What do you say? Number 11, Trey Tucker, correct? Oh, Tucker is one. He changed to number one.

Okay, good, thank good. Jeez, Louis. I saw that today, and I thought that was Tray Tucker for a second. I thought we all missed this until today. I was like, man, we were there. I thought it was Tray Tucker. Okay, good. Okay, Travis Hunter, obviously going behind. Me too. Thank God.

Who is that Jeremy Chin? Yes, that's Jeremy Chin. But on that note, look at the line. Look at the line. Put this screenshot, don't first play. Just put, look at that. Wow. What are you talking about, bro? Clean pocket. Best team in ball. Best team in ball. Can't crack your thought, bud. I do think they're the best team

right now, honestly. I like that. I like that. I like that. That's good news. And the good news is I've been hyping them of his best team for the last three years. So it's not like I can jinx it if I continue to talk about them being good. I've already done that.

No, they're good. You're still first to the key. You're just a little late. Yeah, I was just a little early. Joe Nauru. I was Joe Narno and I was forecasting. Joining us now is a list of defenses that are great and then a few that are terrible.

It is time to go. Everything DB, good D, bad D, with Darius Buntler. Yeah, it seems like. knee-but-nose ball. Yeah, kind of timed up perfectly with what a comment was just talking about with Gino. He's been struggling this year in Vegas, throwing a bunch of picks. Think nine picks on a year now, too, this week. And up top, we got Mackay Blackman.

We got him. He was last year he was with the Vikings. He got an opportunity to play a lot of football because of the injury to Jalen Jones. They brought over Xavier Howard. That didn't quite work out, so he's got back in the lineup. He got a big-time interception here. Here we got covered to trap. So this is a trap corner.

triggering on that number two receiver. So if you run it back to the beginning for Gino Smith, he sees split safety, maybe a cover two. If this receiver just sits between the flat defender and the hook curl defender, we can hit that his own coverage all day. But instead he triggers it. This is that little anaeroma defense, little little, little massages in certain coverage. It triggers that, picks it off, almost takes it to the crib, gets close with a big time play and a big time game. I mean, this was a straight belt to ask 40 to 6 didn't give up anything. test channels got a little blitz off the slot as well boom i mean he rarely in the NFL as a db do you get to a point where you're almost waiting for interception like he jumped that and he was

literally waiting for gino to put it right between the two and the five and he did big time play by black man you know exactly where they're going to nine i'm sorry black men actually early in the game kind of lost his footing in the turf and somebody got a big reception on him and it was like man who who is that over there was blackman and then Later in the game, obviously, getting this pick, it was like, you could tell the Blackman was like, damn, I can't believe because I tripped, somebody got something on me, got back for the team. I think it was great to watch, and this defense is special, man.

Yeah, defense is humming. Whenever you hold, I don't care who you're playing against. We talked about it early with one of the long runs. I don't care who you're lined up against the NFL. If you are the better team, like, you should show up and beat the shit out of them. And to the coach credit, you put up that point differential early with the AFC South. I think the rest of the division kind of right in our coat tail, because we beat the dog shit out of the

Dolphins to open up the season and then beat the dog shit out of the Raiders and that's what you're supposed to do if you are a good football team that considers yourself a contender. And I think we are. Here's a couple of teams that are certainly trying to get into that conversation.

Yeah, trying to get into that conversation and trying to get a win. You've got to get a win week in a week out and the Saints didn't have one coming into this game. Jackson Dart in this offense, this team started off hot, but a big-time interception by Kool-Aid McKinstry.

This was actually his second interception. This is a, cover three fire zones. So you're going to rush five and then you got three underneath, three deep. On the outside is pretty much man-to-man coverage. And it's just a great press rep so great that the receiver quits on the ball. And you never want to do this with your quarterback, especially a young quarterback who's trying to find guys on the outside that he can have some confidence in.

So he got his ass jammed up and you'll see it even better from the replay. Receivers just stops running. Kool-Aid dives and makes a phenomenal catch. A big-time catch by Kool-Lade. AJ. This helps secure this first win. You're hanging your young guy out to dry. Yeah, absolutely.

I feel for the quarterback there. Man. Great play, though. At least break it up. You know, that's like a bad one at all. He didn't think he was getting that ball, obviously, with how covered he was. Jackson Darts said, let me go ahead and let this thing fly. Incredible reaction time by Kool-Aid, right?

Yeah, big-time players. That'd be so much fun to be that. Yeah, Phil. That'd be so cool to be that athletic. Just that quick of a reaction time, too. Good ball skills, man. You can never, you know, sometimes in certain play progressions, past progression, an AQ and notice certain receivers may not anticipate getting the ball based on the coverage

or where guys are on defense. We saw it was a talking point with the Eagles and A.J. Brown with the, oh, he stopped running or he slowed down. And it's one of those things that don't show up until it shows up. The one time you slow down the route, the quarterback takes a chance and throw it to you. So I'm sure he heard this a lot from whoever his receivers coach is, from the head coach. I'm sure this is probably played on the big screen and the team meeting. You can't leave a young quarterback out dry. Top left corner there had Dallas 30, New York Jets 14.

just in drumming as the Giants are throwing up another pick and a guy's all side of New York Jets getting killed up here just New York people watching the game just got a little two for here for you don't you worry about okay what do they have next next we got another big AFC East matchup we all we all watch this one this is a big moment in the game too right now the Patriots are up three

and the bills are right at high red areas so 1310 and now you got Josh Allen one of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League so defensively you got kind of man-to-man coverage but You got two, if you let it run a little bit, you'll have two like low rat defenders. And these rat defenders also can act as like spies on Josh Allen. So you see like the two linebackers around the hash marks. If 17 was to tuck the ball and take off, they would be in past coverage, obviously.

But when he takes off the run, they would trigger to go and tackle him. But here, Marcus Jones does a great job knowing that he has help over the top. So once he dropped back, get ready to throw it, he knows, boom, foot in the ground, undercut it, boom. And make it dive and catch good. I mean, Marcus Jones, obviously, has phenomenal ball skills, great returner, the Patriots as well. It's a big-time play. You got to make these plays. You know when you have a corner like Christian Gonzalez, who's not going to get a bunch of targets or Carlton, when you're in there, you're going to get work in there.

So make opportunity, make the best of your opportunity. That's what Marcus Jones has been doing on defense and specialty. I wonder if you see them on offense at all this year. Red zone turnover. That's huge. Game changers. This is like three, four years ago for Josh Allen. Yeah.

Yeah, this is not, he clearly didn't know that he was going to be there. Was that a no-looker? Was he looking that off trying to move somebody there? I think he was looking, but it's just so much, if you just pause it there, like it's just so much for a quarterback, even before, you know, those two lines. Well, Gonzalez and them Spillane, I think that is, bites up on that low-crosser. Before that, it's just so much color. Like, quarterbacks really see color.

You see those blue jerseys, and then you say, okay, I know. Let me just try to throw them to a spot. So it's just a great job by Jones, because sometimes when you're outside leverage like that, you're guarding it inside break your route it's tough to do but knowing he has help I think that made him a little more confidence to undercut that and go make a big time playing the ball now he's looking right at it right

he's staring it down yeah I think he's looking at it. God he looks so cool Marcus Jones subjibus point is the one that like if there are deep balls or passes down the field they're not going on gone over Carlton Davis Marcus Jones is the guy that they're trying and like it's been unbelievable this is why the Patriots defense is you know top three defense in the NFL right now because of how good they can cover and then

you know they're like second in pressures that is one of the best units in the NFL God it feels good to be on good deed doesn't it Connor our team it feels it feels it feels it feels it feels real good good to you know not be coming in here and just having to eat bad d every day every day I don't like eating bad no it's good deed it's good i don't want to watch that a defense is going to be uh completely different whenever a guy like christian gonzalez yeah plays now he won't be like good deal a bunch because he doesn't get the ball production. He doesn't get a bunch of interceptions because quarterbacks just don't throw it. They don't test them often. But it helps the other players when they make those big time plays. Now, we saw this same route from the same

offense with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. They've made a bunch of touchdowns, made a bunch of of money running this route, like a follow route. Once again, the same one we saw from the tip ball from McCuba earlier in the year. You'll see 87 moving around pre-snap. The Jaguars are ready for the route. They're anticipating the route. And Devin, Lloyd, AJ, you can kind of speak to, I guess, what he's seeing and what he's doing here with this fake blitz and then dropping into the window and picking this off.

Yeah, look at the double A gap. I don't know, the end zone view shows it better. But, yeah, you've got linebackers. You're reading the center. So you're both blitz and you're both A gaps. You see them up there. Whichever way the center turns, you engage quick while the other guy shoots and then you pop out.

This is exactly how you draw it up. Like, this is clinic tape that you would show when you install this in the spring or summer whenever you do it. Hey, pop in there, get his attention, then pop out. You get lost in the traffic. And, you know, this is best case scenario right here, getting the throwing lane, catch it, take it to the house. Yeah, being able to finish is obviously absurd, especially with how comfortable he looked immediately afterwards. He didn't look like he was dying for air. Tyquan Thornton almost catches up to him with a JHA block there. But let's talk a little bit about the center turning and then choosing to go the opposite direction. He fakes that he's going

there just to keep the center's eyes. Is that what you're saying? A little bit. Yeah, I don't if we have the end zone or not, but you see them, they both attack the A-GAPs, and then when the center decides, hey, I'm turning right or left, you'll talk to your two backers, you'll sit there and you'll stay in the line. AQ has had to deal with this a million times, I'm sure. You're sitting there and thinking, all right, hey, hey, here. You'll

start to listen and get an idea of which way the center's going to turn before the snap, hopefully, but then boom, you're just reacting off of it. If he turns away from you, bam, I'm shooting, and trying to get the quarterback, other guy pop out, getting the throwing lane. This is what we do. What is the center's decision-making process there.

So the protection call sends them one way or another, and so whenever you had teams like this, so like, AJ, you know whenever you used to play in Zimmer, you try to pump block, and you just go straight back and don't declare one way or another to try and screw them up, but the minute that Creed Humphrey goes left, you know that the guy to Creed's

right is going to blitz, and the guy from the left was going to block out. Creed did a good job of punt blocking here, too. He didn't give it away. He didn't jump right or left, right? He did a good job, punt-blocking, too. You're going to replay, Foxy, the TV replay? It might be a little, I might show a little uh...

look he goes straight back like that's a great job by those guys on deep because creed does a good job that's the toughest thing to read when he does go straight back like this. Great. And then you think

the first thing I thought when I saw this play I'm like damn how does a linebacker go 99 yards obviously you make a great move on Patrick Mahomes but if I'm thinking fastest wide receiver unit in the league right now is probably the chiefs you think of Thornton, Hollywood, Xavier and then none of these

only Thornton was on the field is Thornton, Jujo, But Thornton was the only fast guy on the film. We talked about it yesterday with Hines Allen, just making that one little bunk. Because we're always taught with the interceptions. You try to block the intended receiver, and you block the quarterback.

So just him peeking last minute, 41, run his ass off, and then peeking, just give him a little bump. He still caught up to him. But he didn't catch up to him early enough to punch it out. Way to hang on. Great ball security through the fucking goal line. Offensive players pay attention. But great job, Devin Lurie.

coming off of his best probably game as a pro last week and he had two interceptions of a second and forced fumble in one AFC defensive player of the week. Now let's get to some bad Oh no. Somebody, but you, who mentioned

the Jets, stinky, stinky defense earlier? That was you. I think you asked JJ about it. This is an example of that because if we line up here, we know what the Cowboys were coming in this game or who they were coming in this game without. It was without CD Lamb, right? So we all know target number one

will be George Pickens, especially when you're at this in the alumni section where you'd like to take shots. First and 10, we got George Pickens at the bottom, and we got wide receiver two up at the top. So if the safety took picking side, he drops down into the coverage. So that lets Dak Prescott know, even though he's in play action. As soon as he gets his eyes back, okay, there's no safety help. Like zero safety help.

So it is Sauce Gardner down there. One of the best, I think, highest paid corner in the league right now. So, yeah, Sauce Island, leave him on the island. but it just doesn't make sense to me defensively why I leave any of my players on the island with their best one-on-one downfield receiver if you don't have to so they got two guys covering the other

guy. He's wide. Two-man route, too. We don't need to leave a guy in Ireland with a two-man route. Exactly. Two-man route. You got a double team on one guy who's still open in the National Football League and then you leave him one-on-one with sauce down the field and George Pickens does what George Pickens does. We see this play. Anybody can see you see this

play on Madden and no, okay, I'm throw it up number three and give him a shot, and that's what Dack does. Gives him an opportunity to make a big playdown. Hey, Q, what are you giggling about? He's cackling over here, AQ, he's got the hot gut going on. I mean, they are so bad right now. Yeah, like, that guy gets paid $100 million, and that's the, that's what he does. I just, I think what DeButch is saying, though, it's not just sauce.

It's like the whole strategy scheme decisions. It's Aaron Glenn going over there, which is defensive guy. Yeah, I don't care how good your player is and how good you are. if you only have AJ mentioned it it's only a two-man route and like that's clearly why receiver one George Pickers is coming off his biggest game as a cowboy so you're covered it like

it just doesn't make sense and that you know some people say why wasn't a flag throwing it I guess a lot of hand fighting both ways there with the receiver with the corner so they didn't authority the way. Aaron Glenn though right don't just I naturally assume that he's going to have a good defense oh yeah yeah I think we all do probably Jets fans especially with all the talent

that the Jets have on their defense like that has been the story the last several years when Rogers got there, hey, this team might win the Super Bowl because their defense is already ready to go. And then even this year, like, yeah, we don't know about the offense, but we know the defense is going to be unbelievable. And they've looked like hammered dog shite so far. Oh, stop.

They're building now. What were you guys, MCD's first year, Foxy? We were 0 in 10, year one, and then year two, we started out one and six, and then after the one and six, that's when everything was. All right. So we've got some patience. I will say, and I shouldn't say it, but there was a time in the era with Aaron Glenn as D.C. where a big

chunk of Lions fans did not like him because they were letting a lot of points up on the defensive side. Well, people forget that. Fox. They're remembering it now, though. They fired somebody, right, to like save his job. D.B. Coach.

D.B. Coach, I remember that story. And you got much better after that. They did. They did. I said, come on in. Need you. Okay. And now we got a team that's been on the receiving end of the in the trenches and now on the receiving end of the Bad Deal Award. It's tough to be a giant fan.

It feels like, go ahead, Dibah. Yeah, it is. And we all remember a guy who last year kind of took the NFL by storm early on. Rashid Shahid. He is a big play waiting to happen. And right now he's kind of in that cut split. Once the motion comes over, he'll be in that slot. And this is another thing with, as you're at this safety,

Nubin is his name, right, Bruce? Back here, 27, down to the bottom of the field. He'll get putting the top. tough situation because now he's going to end up and he's not too deep. He's probably about nine yards from the ball so you let this ball snap that's a lot of speed and you pause it right here. So now

with a two-man route once again to the left as this safety because you're pretty much on the island with this deep ball. You do have help to your right. You know you have another deep safety to your right so I would say keep your leverage to the outside and use your help. He does not

it's a good route. Give a little post corner here. Spencer Rattler makes a great throw under pressure. He's been playing well, but this is his first win as a starting quarterback, and this is a big part. Once again, a big time moment in the game, down two points right here with the Saints. Good route, good ball, and that safety is put in a tough, tough spot. So what is that, AJ? The guy took two wrong steps and all of a sudden it's a fucking house call. What a nightmare. It's a great rep, but if you look at this, like, all right, Debutt's right, and it's easy sitting here, you know,

in air conditioning and talk about it, but look how much help he has if he stays outside leverage. Look at it. Look at how many guys I got over there on the other side of the field? He's got a lot of buddies over there to help. So I'm like, I got to stay outside somehow, even though you think he's run that deep over. But bam, he snaps it off and here we go. And it's a good route concept. You run it back because that outside receiver that motions over, he holds that corner

to make sure that, you know, if I do under throw this a little bit, this corner doesn't help. But yet, I don't think he helped himself from the get-go, from his alignment. He wasn't deep enough. And then he didn't start gaining depth. If you run it back to the beginning, as a deep half safety, depth is your friend. You want to keep everything in front of you.

So right now, one of the fastest players in the league, and he's already on your toes, like, at this point. Like, you're already in trouble. Even if he just runs straight, runs a post. I don't think either one of these safety had enough depth. You only had really one wide receiver split out pre-snap. First down, you're probably thinking maybe a run, play big bodies, and boy, it turned into a big play fast.

What's that route called? Post corner. Love it. That would be so much fun. to be able to do so many things that would be cool to be able to do yeah just run a post corner right now get from the line of scrimmage to the end zone just for the at full speed would be cool to be able to do at this stage of life let alone make somebody turn around full spin in the middle of the field he's a real weapon we forget about him because the saints have been such ass what were you

gonna say con man yeah exactly exactly that he his stats next to jamesson williams stats and james Williams is considered, you know, one of the best deep ball threats out there, I would guess. He's better than him. And they've played the exact same amount of games. I believe actually, he might have played one less game than Jameson Williams. And he's got more yards, more catches, more touchdowns.

It's just situations. But he plays for the same. Situations. It's just like Max Crosby, man. What you're saying. I was good. You can, might as well ship Max Crosby to Detroit. I mean, that's the only place he wants to go. From Michigan. Oh, let's bring a real Colts. Yeah.

them and lay out too lots I thought the Colts like their guys they do like their guys we wouldn't mind some new guys though we brought some new guys in during the off season we just brought in new guy Pratt yeah but he's he's old guy to Lou

have you seen what we've been doing over here we're only getting better AJ we're getting more lose guys in here pies on's coming in some guys with some grit and some toughness too I like it bringing guys in that we'll just add to this great defense grit and

John of course speaking of grit and John you deserve all the praise for the work you put in for that good deep bad Maybe deep butt Akew, listen, yesterday we had a guy buried four straight putts so I don't want to put that on you, but I do think you should at least do a giveaway here, okay? Because we're heading into week six of the NFL season, week seven of college football already.

Okay, let's do it in there. Okay, so let's enjoy it all. What do you want to do? You want to throw a football? You want to shoot a basketball? Let's throw a football. It's football season. It is football season, isn't it? It is hump day, too, as we all see. And on this glorious Wednesday, AQ Shipley can try to win, 15 people. $500. All you got to do is put that particular football,

Baby Duke, into that hoop right over there that has a chain net that has been ripped because people have been splashing on it. For instance, Evan Fox yesterday went 10 for 10 around the horn, five spots, three-pointer, NBA three-pointers, off the couch, first game, 10 for 10. We won the game 33 in the first round. First round. Yeah, you also won 7 of 10.

I did pretty good, but let's not talk about that. Foxy won 10 for 10. all splashies. We're breaking the chain net over here. That's how good Foxy's become. I believe it. I mean, Foxy's a natural athlete. We've seen them.

Is there anything Foxy can't do any sport? Yeah, any sport that's tough. He quit football in the eighth grade. Physicality. Soccer, I've never been good at soccer. Physicality, I think. Any physicality, there's potential problem. Oh, yeah, I did quit football too.

Oh, yeah. How about wrestling? You think it'd be a good wrestling? Absolutely not. You're going to play hockey. You grew up in Michigan. I did play hockey, but I had to choose basketball. Hindsight, I probably would have been a better hockey player.

What? What are you talking about? Pretty good jump shot, Foxy. You should have committed to basketball more, I think. Got McJesus back here. Especially in the world that we're in. But, yeah, he's been splashing this thing. It's been going crazy.

McJesus just took $8 million less a year. What are you doing, McJesus? Team car. I love what he's doing. I respect it so much. They better win. He went to them for the contract, too, to get it done. Do you know how it makes the sport look, though?

Yeah. when the best guy they sign. Hey, this guy you never fucking heard or just signed for four years, $700 million NBA. Hey, this guy you never fucking heard of just signed four years, 500 million dollars, MLB. Hey, this guy you never fucking heard of

in the NFL just signed four years, 40 million. Fuck. Then the NHL. The best player in the league just signed two years, 12 and a half million dollars per year. It's like, whoa. You think that's a good thing? Someone.

What? Hey, the best fucking player says Wayne Gretzky just signed for, you know. Peanuts. Yeah, literal peanuts. I don't think that's good for the league optically, but I'd like to let everybody know. It's awesome that that is the type of guy

that is playing in the NHL, though. Which, once again, goes back to the respect we have for the sport and why the sport is awesome. But I didn't like the way that looked against the other numbers. You know, I'm like, the NHL's, this is the best player. His contract's up? Man, he's a gentleman.

Yeah, comparisons are bad if you haven't seen them yet. Contracts, other contracts, and other sports? Yeah. someone said Carter McDavid's the greatest player in the NHO right now and he's making 12 and a half a year

and then someone said Stephen Adams is averaging three points for the Houston Rockets and he's making $13 million a year right now those are big three points in room protection my bad my bad I can't leave this out six rebounds a game as well okay yeah it's on defense

but let alone the tone that's being set as soon as he steps foot on the court that's worth what it's worth but I appreciate Connor McDavid doing that That's really cool to build up the team. I hope they win a cup. But also, I think a lot of people saying, I'm not doing hockey as a kid. It's a tough sport.

It's a really tough sport. It's a beautiful sport. Great sport. You know what it would be a good sport? You, if you put that ball into that hoop right over there. 15 people, $500. A.J. Hawks are going to give you a motivational speech here. Can I keep his ears?

He can still hear me? Yeah. He can see you. Okay, great behind him. You're over a shoulder. Yesterday, I told a BA yesterday he's going to make four out of four, and he did make four out of four. So I think you're definitely going to make this,

especially with their sweet Cam Hain shoes on, man. They look even better now that you're standing. I like that AJ said, I got a lot of shit yesterday for what I said to B.A. Turns out I was right. Okay, so let's make sure we remember that. Ty, anything to say to AQ and those sweet shoes that he's wearing, the speed bonds? Yeah, I would say, you know, there are 40 winners yesterday. So if you won't go ahead and throw this thing up in the fucking mezzanine.

Go ahead. Go to the program. Yeah, go to the program. I don't think we need to be. Maybe toned out there. Yeah, I don't know if we need to be trying to make this one. No, on that note, I think you would be big-time babyface if you were to make that for a 15. people make their lives better.

But Darius J. Butler has something to say to you before you go ahead and let this one for it. I would say pump up and tighten up those shoes. Pump it up. Throw his ball. There we go. There we go. Boy, I wish he kissed it.

I was going to say, that's pretty cool. Dee Brown before the dunk contest. Yep. That is sick. All right, you might have cut off circulation to his feet with that. I don't know how active he's feeling at this moment, but it might be a gift and a curse. These speed man's having so many capabilities to maybe tighten it up a little bit.

Austin Connor has the last message for you here. Just think about, you know, what Clyde Christensen would tell you if he was here as a quarterback coach. I'll probably keep that elbow tight, maybe. Yeah, there you go, score the shoulders. Yep, yep. Right, right, right, right. O.C. Poorhouse is the place down in Carolina.

Ah. You should definitely go check out. I'm sure Clyde Christensen has not been there, but he does fancy himself a Charlotte and North Carolina man himself. AQ, all you got to do is put that football on the hoop, and 15 lives will be better because you are a great athlete. Penn State can't get the job done, but can AQ Shipley, we shall see. Hell yeah.

For the people, AQ, best effort. Oh, pretty good. Pretty good. That was a good attempt. All right, you'll get one more. Okay, you'll get one more. That'll act as a range check. Okay, this is your last throw, though.

This is it. 15 people, $500. You put that ball into that hoop right over there. All people will have to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody. Maybe they're cute because he's pretty aggressive today wearing a maroon hoodie like this. I like it. With the khaki? Really good.

Good fit. Maybe they can say that to you and say something nice to somebody else and they can maybe win $500 because you're such a damn good athlete, AQ. Whip you a Hall of Famer for basketball, Super Bowl champion in football, your world's could come together here.

With the football and the basketball hoop. Go ahead, AQ. Too much. This guy's never going to do it. No. This guy's never going to do it. I thought we really had it. Before we get out of here,

we do have to celebrate something. Ladies and gentlemen, There's obviously one half of the hammer, Don, Cowboys in AP tone. But the other half of the hammer, Don, Cowboys, is a man from Canada, who was a ship painter, I believe, for 16 or 17 years. And while he was in the belly of those ships, he would be listening to different shows as he tried to pass the time. He'd wake up, he'd put on his paint suits and his lack of mask,

and he would go paint the shit out of these ships up there in Canada. And I'm sure it was cold as balls. You're talking about a guy that would show up every day, not only for the ships, but for his family, for his friends, work his ass off. And he listened to shows, and all of a sudden, a group of idiots from Indianapolis cracked into his ears. Then he called into said program one time, and he was electrifying. I thought his name was Dump. Turns out, it's Gump, because this guy was a great soccer player. He's obviously a great friend, and we're lucky as hell that he's a member of our team.

Ladies and gentlemen, certainly the oldest guy of the bunch. It is Gumpie's birthday today. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Buddy, happy birthday, dear Gombe. Hey, happy birthday to you. We're lucky to have you. Canadian tie actually has a message for you before you give your speech.

Yeah, listen, Paul, I'd just like to say, I hope those fucking knobs and Muppets, you know, start showing up for you on Monday nights and Tuesday nights and Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights and Thursday nights and Friday nights and Saturday nights. Yeah, every morning as well and obviously Sundays. How about those fins? Hey, we're not dead yet, eh? Yeah, we're not dead yet, eh? And the bets are always alive, especially 4 a.m. We got fucking ping pong and China going on that we got a bet on.

And we think this trip around the sun for you, Gumpy, you're going to win every single bet. Gumpy, A.J. Hawk has a message to deliver you on your big birthday here. Well, Gump, first off, happy birthday. I was unaware that it was your birthday. You look great. I'm sure you feel great. Are you fully a U.S. citizen at this point? No. Not quite yet. We're getting there, AJ. Thank you. We're on the track, though, right? We're on pace? Absolutely. Okay. It's going to happen in no time.

Trains at the station. I don't know that. And said train that we're going to have to get on is going to have to be studying of a test that is recalling information that he hasn't done since high school. So we think he's certainly already working on that and studying that. And Gumpy, we love you, buddy. Happy birthday. We appreciate the hell of you. Love you, Gumpf. Thank you guys. I love you.

Appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. Very lucky to be here with you guys. We're thankful you're here. Hey, go dolphins. Hey, go Red Sox. Hey, go Red Sox. Hey, go Texas hockey, eh? We're going out. Go Liverpool. You never walk along, Gumpf. Yeah, you never walk alone in Liverpool. And inter Miami

They're going to figure it out. Oh, yeah. Of course. And those bastards at Barcelona or Real Madrid, whoever you lose on every single weekend, they'll figure it out this year as well, Gumpy. Who are your go-toes? Who are your regulars that have been letting you down like a fucking knob?

Real Madrid and Barcelona. So start of the year, there's no Champions League, so you can really hammer them. It's win, win, win, but then you get the Champions League mid-week. The other teams aren't playing during the week. You kind of get God on the weekends. It's awesome.

Yeah, we're in the mix right now. He's so mad. Just notification pops up. fucking Muppets. I had so much faith in these boys. I met these boys. It's like, who are you talking? He's all by himself. He's talking to himself.

It's just me and him in a room. And he's just saying this, not to me. He's speaking a different direction. He thinks they can hear him, I think. The worst one was... The worst one was on Sunday, Levindoski, who we interviewed when we were Barcelona. I live bet Barcelona double chance here down one-nothing,

hammered him. I thought it was best bet I ever made. They get a penalty shot in like the 65th minute. Levindosky steps up, never misses a penalty, puts this thing five yards wide. Fucking no! It's as bad as it gets. Come on, man. I forget who it was.

There was somebody. I mean, last week, you know, you guys were traveling for game day, and I came in, we come in, and, you know, it was after the Sox Yankees game two or three. I honestly, I forget about it. And it was after Thursday night football. And I see a tweet from Gumpie at like 1230. And it's New Mexico State football.

I'm like, how is he going? From baseball that started at 3 to New Mexico State, who gives a fuck university? And then we're on plane at 6. Yeah. We're on playing at 6 a.m. So then we'll be sitting on the plane

and I'd passed. I didn't see New Mexico. I didn't see it. He didn't either. That's on me 100%. And then he will mention somebody's name from the team. Like, oh, Johnson last time. There it is.

And I'm like, who? What? Who are you talking about this? New Mexico State Corner, this guy fucking locked down. He had 17 past defense last night. It's like, what? It is the most obscure shit. And when these guys let him down,

they need to know that- It takes it personal, I feel like. It's like a friend kicked him in the balls. That is literally what the reaction is. Him upset yelling at clouds when we're the only people around each other is one of my favorite things, just a full public outburst.

And it's like about what? Something happened in fucking Italy, right? What the fuck, man! And everybody looks over at him. And then it's like, what happened? He goes, fucking Muppets can't put a ball away.

And I go, were you supposed to win? He goes, should have tied at least. And then he goes, right back to it. There's another back coming. Now we're riding away of whoever's next. I get back on the right track, I guess. Liverpool can't let me die. of good. We will tonight. We got a midweek

QSA boys party in the QSA tonight. Okay. And who are we like? We got Missouri State plan and I do like Liberty going into U-TEP tonight. Okay. They're laying a point. I like it. And that's exactly what I'm talking about right there.

That's exactly, you just heard it. All the people just heard it for a, I like Liberty going into U-TEP tonight. And if Liberty does not, every person that plays for Liberty that he knows the name of, or anybody associated with the college, We'll get fucking undressed just at some moment. But if they win, Gumpy enjoys it for about a half a second,

and then bang, we're on to the next bet. He's at the Mack Brown stage of Gambling, where losing is devastating and anger. Winning is just a relief. Let's get to the next bet. Gumpy, this year, let's take these wins in a little bit more and enjoy them. Let's not worry about the losses that the fucking Muppets continue to put you through. Happy birthday, we love you.

All right, let's get the hell out of here. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. Tone, why don't you make your way out here? On my way! We're all strapped around here. Did you hear him say that, AJ? Oh, yeah, I heard it. Incredible.

Just a little heads up, Tone wanted to say. All right, great work. You look really cool. Thanks. You do look really cool today. Sure. AQ, good work, brother. You too.

You too. You didn't win anything for anybody. Cool. Happy birthday, Gumpy. One day. We can't wait to listen to hammer down as we have a birthday celebration of Gumpy coming up, I assume.

Be a friend, tell a friend, nice of my change their life. We're in this thing together. AQ, anything you said to the team? Five guys on the same page. Next week, O-line dominates. Oh, I like that. DeButs, great work this week. Anything you say to the boys? No, A-Q said it all.

Things are a little different with DBs, but maybe not. Team on me, team on three, one, two, three, team. Goodbye.