The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1427 - NFL Week 6 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Kirk Herbstreit, Nick Saban, Matt Rhule, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

On today's show, Pat is LIVE from Eugene, Oregon for College GameDay ahead of tomorrow’s massive tilt between Indiana and Oregon, while AJ Hawk and the boys are back in Indianapolis as they break down the Giants impressive win over the Eagles, they preview this weekend’s college football slate, and preview and pick every game against the spread in week 6 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to discuss what last night’s win means for the Giants, some of the QB injuries going into the weekend, expectations for the trade deadline, and more is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, the voice of college football and NFL on Prime color commentator, Kirk Herbstreit joins the show to recap last night’s Eagles/Giants game and look ahead to this weekend. Later, 7x National Champion, the GOAT, Nick Saban joins the progrum to preview this weekend’s college football slate. Lastly, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule joins the show to chat about their season thus far, this weekend’s game, difficult travel schedules, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here we go, the Pat McAfee Show. Feel Good Friday, October 18th. I'm A.J. Hawks sitting in for Pat here at his desk in Indianapolis. He's in Eugene, Oregon for a big one, boys. Football! It's all the buzzed last night. We saw an amazing Thursday night game on Amazon Prime. Obviously, the New York football Giants, Bruce Brown, you know, behind the glass there's

pretty excited. He's been walking around with a little pep in a step because those giants just absolutely dominated last night against the Philadelphia Eagles. I'll tell you what, Jackson, DART, Cam Scataboo, these guys... Four four and six. I feel like there's some new life, huh? There's a new life in New York for this New York Giants football team. Brian Dable, Brian Burns on the defensive side of the ball.

These guys, I'd tell you what, boys, Connor, what do you think, Boston, Connor? You think this New York Football Giants team? Are they in the up and up? Are they going to have a chance to make the playoffs and make a run? I mean, yeah, I honestly think so. I don't know about, you know, making the playoffs and making a run, but this is the first time in, what, five years where you watch a Giants game, and it's like, okay, they got some.

something. They have some sort of future. It all starts right there, right? It all starts with Jackson Dart. This dude just breathed life into this team. I love all the celebrations, the dances, everything he's doing. But bringing this young energy, I feel like, I don't know, it just elevates everybody. Everywhere you look, I mean, Cam Scatterby just runs his head through everybody. He's going to tackle this guy. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody last night. I think the big thing for the Giants, too, is like, whatever they do, I mean, you're not going to call it a success already. it's early but like they they lost malik neighbors for the year you know it was kind of just like okay whatever but like if you have your quarterback scataboo looks great and then you add malic neighbors

to this team like all of a sudden i'll tell you what you're cooking with some fire yeah this giant's defense too they shut out the egos offense in the second half which just seems to be unheard of the egos we'll get to them we'll talk a little bit about them i don't know what's going on there there's a lot was there a meeting was there not a meeting between the big three there on offense as you see Brian Burns. This guy, I'd love watching him play. Seven sacks. He's tied for the league lead in sacks. I think Abdul Carter, you can see him working

these little games. Ooh, nice little grab of the offensive linemen you see to help your buddy out. It's still legal. It still works. Just relentless. And Jalen Hertz. And they just didn't have a whole lot of answers, I guess, offensively. Now, Jalen Hertz. Who's that deep ball, what, third quarter? That's a tough one.

You overthrow. You overthrow. You overthrow one like that. That's not helping the narrative. Yeah, especially in a game like that. I don't know what the Eagles, I think they're going to be all right, but I feel like people, I don't know, there's some questions right here. We got to hit that one. We know that. What Lane Johnson said, their offense needs to be less predictable, I believe. What do you think, Ty Schmidt? You think there's other issues? Is Philly going to have some issues? This is going to be a lingering thing? Or are they going to turn this thing around? I mean, it's still early, but this does feel more like that Eagles team

who kind of, what, started 10 and O and then limped into the playoffs and got beat in the first around. It feels a little more like that than some of those chiefs teams who it just didn't really look great all year, but they still advance in the playoffs. I just don't know how, I don't know, it's like it's Dr. Heckel and, you know, or Jekyll and Hyde, you know, it's like one week, it seems like they have everything figured out the next week they don't and they ran into a bus saw last night. Well, there's, so there was, we heard from, we heard there was a meeting, right? We heard there was a meeting between who, Ty, who was. Sequan, Jalen, and A.J. Brown had a hour-long conversation.

I heard two hours. Multiple hours. Yeah, there it is. Lasted a couple hours. And then AJ Brown after the game was basically just like, I don't know what the hell. Yeah, here it is. Here we go. What was behind that?

I don't recall a meeting. The meeting never had. Those guys did have. Oh, you need to talk to them. You weren't in the meeting? I don't recall. Or you don't want to talk about it. I don't recall.

Yeah, so, like, you hear that, and that's weird. And then you hear talk, like, talk about predictability, Lane Johnson with the offense and stuff like that. And, you know, Kevin Patu blow at calling plays was what we, that's what, that's what people were saying. And we said, and we said that was bullshit, okay? Okay. Because then you hear A.J. Brown say, and I'm not sure if we have that clip, too,

talking about Kevin Petula, basically like, yeah, no, Kevin, he's amazing on the sidelines. He's trying to get us open. It's more so about player execution. And then, like, that narrative. And I don't know if it's A.J. Brown on an island, you know, saying this, you know, Kevin Petulow is great. He's trying. And then everyone else is saying, you know, we're predictable and stuff like that. Like the culture feels weird in Philly. It just, it doesn't feel on the same page. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not the same Philly that we've known. To Tye's point, at least it's happening now, maybe.

Like, at least they aren't 10 and 0 and then this starts happening. Like, it's early enough where, like, they could possibly save it. But that was, the second half of that game was the ugliest half of football we've seen from the Eagles in a long time. Yeah, it's tough. Anytime you lose, these things start to like, they come into focus. They get pushed to the front when you, if there are communication situations going on with the team with the offense. I don't know, but what about this push, guys? We still feel like they think they're going to officially ban this thing. So, what, four straight plays we ran this guy?

Yeah. Four straight. I feel like the internet lit up, the stadium lit up, the sidelines lit up, the coaches lit up. Day Bowl saying, obviously, you can call it. Look at these guys. They're jumping. It's false start. We're getting a quick leader and early jump. The Giants almost stopped it, though, right? I mean, technically they kind of stopped it three times, or they definitely stopped it twice.

They picked up the fourth down and then the touchdown, obviously. And yeah, the whole internet running it four times in a row. Does everybody hate it? I mean, is it just Eagles fans that like it or what? Where are we at? At this point, majority is Eagles, just Eagles fans like it, especially because the four times in a row yesterday I really pissed everyone off. Yeah.

I didn't love it four times in a row. That would have been an easy false start to call. Yeah, and definitely. The first thoughts on all of them. Yeah. Oh, boy. I also don't, I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing that even Eagles fans are maybe getting to that point.

It's like this team, this team fucking sucks. The only time we score is when we do the tush push or the little shovel pass to Dallas Goddard. Like that is their off. They almost look like an offense from like the 1910. right now. Yeah, they do.

I don't know. Honestly, I'm trying to, I'm trying to form my opinion on the tush push. I get it, like, I understand it doesn't look pretty. It doesn't, this isn't like traditional football, whatever. But I don't, I don't love it, but I guess I'm not a huge, I don't know. I don't think you should be, you should ban it just because they're good at. Sure, I agree. But, like, last night was the first time where it was, okay, this sucks.

I have always been, hey, touch push is awesome. Like, let's go. And I think we all have had that, you know, same viewpoint. like if you can't stop it, like they can't just ban it. But now that there's off sides and false starts on every play. And you know, I'm assuming you know more than anyone, the coaches are definitely telling the refs like, hey, the biggest thing to watch is that before the touch push, they jump.

It's an emphasis. It's an emphasis, yeah, and they're not calling it. So like with them not calling it, with them having A.J. Brown, Devontas, Smith, Sequin Barclay, all this talent, and this is the play that they kind of hang their hat on. Like, there's so many different things that make it just, like, okay, this now sucks. It's too much. The refs can't officiate it correctly.

Like, they've proven that. It's not as if last night was the first time this was happening. This is the first time on primetime football where they had the false start. Like, if the reps can't officiate it correctly and it's just, I mean, I'm not going to say it's not football because it is. It's lining up and smashing you in the mouth. Like, that's what it's all about. But it's not, you know, typical football play. The stuff off of it is sick.

Like the little shovel pass is sweet, the handoff they did to Saquan against the bucks. and then he walked in. It's the four straight times in a row. Yeah, it's the four straight times, I think. And I believe, Pat, I think maybe, where are you? I know you took a second to get your connection situation. What's up, Pat? Where are you?

What are you doing, buddy? Hey, I'm in the East End Zone Terrace here at Austin Stadium. And it is a beautiful out here. Now, last night I was lucky enough to be in New York. Okay, so I went from Indianapolis over to New York. I got a chance to go celebrate Kalin Ursay. One of the owners, one of the big three of the Indianapolis Colts, win a award for Project Healthy Minds event, Carson Daily, put together in New York City.

Okay, so that's what I did last night, okay? That's unbelievable that there was a lot of moments last night where I was looking around with the people that were in a room that we were in, and my wife and I obviously were pumped up that we were invited to go get dressed up and have a little night, you know, it was nice to see the wife all dolled up, looking like an absolute rocket out there. And you know, got a chance, you know, take some pictures, we don't do a lot of handshake it. You know, I'm not a big handshaker. We live in Indianapolis, Indiana, so we don't have to go to these happy hours where

people, you know, fake meat and do all that bullshit like that is. I don't we go to the Super Bowl. We go to the Super Bowl. We go to the Super Bowl. We go to a row and then the house that we're staying. We don't go to the events. Like, I don't enjoy those things at all. It's not the cut of my jib and it's not really, you know, because it's all a bunch

of, it's so much always. Isn't it AJ? I think you could speak for these events are so much always. I think that's a good way. It's a bit of overwhelming to walk into those situations sometimes. Yeah, so don't normally do this, but we were, I mean, pumped. that Kaelin invited.

So Kailen and Sam have become really good friends, actually, over, you know, like the last year or so. And I've known Kailen since, obviously, I get to Indianapolis. We're about the same age. So we kind of know each other had similar groups and been to, you know, similar places and hung out. So it's like at this stage of her life, I think there's a lot going on for her. I think she's trying to balance a lot. And her getting an award at this incredible, Roger Goodell was there. And we entered a room.

and he got what's your named what's your name it was awesome it was awesome it was awesome that's a whole other conversation I would certainly have that conversation another day

I will say this though Roger Goodell the man I got a chance to be around him for a long time last night in a comfortable setting and the way he handled it the way he moved

the things he said I think he's aware of absolutely everything but getting a chance to go and celebrate Kaelin my wife and I were honored and pumped to go do it So we flew over there, got a chance to do the whole thing, then hop afterwards.

Because I guess there's not enough air traffic controllers. I guess it's something that's currently happening. So had to fly out of a different place. Sure. And we all go. We're on a helicopter. Okay. So we're taking a helicopter now to a plane to fly to leave an event that Roger Goodell was at.

And maybe some ex-royals. Okay. And Gaylor said, one or the people that were in this room, I was not supposed to be here. And I actually got chewed out of a room. That was not supposed. that actually happened right here double-handed double-handed excuse me please get the hell out of here that but it was an incredible night Carson Daly

absolute dog he is the man then obviously fly over here then we fly to Oregon and landed like 3 a.m. here didn't even get a chance to really see the postcard picturesque setup that we have but boy this morning once I woke up the hotel that I'm staying at is in a nice isolated area you got a chance to get out

smell the air out here look around at these trees It is a beautiful place out. You're flying a long time on a plane. But anytime you're doing that, normally you're going to end up in a postcard. And that is certainly what this place is. And there's cranes everywhere because they're still building it up. Obviously, everybody talks about the NIL era being very good to Oregon. It's like, well, they got a head coach that's able to drive the ship too.

I think that is a necessity at this stage. Everybody talks about money, money, money, money. It's like, I think a lot of places have money that aren't able to manage it. You know, where's the money going? Who are they picking? How they build in a culture? How do you maintain an edge? How do you get guys to travel all the way after Oregon?

It's like Dan Lanning is a beast. This place is all the way behind them. And Fernando Mendoza and the Indiana Hoosers come in here undefeated again. Okay. And they're putting up and doing things that not a lot of people have seen in college football. So it's going to be a magical time out here. And I am pumped and thankful to be here. They gave us great hospitality.

I mean, give me a damn box soon as I walked into it. I mean, it's kind of what we call. Oh, hell, yeah. That's Oregon football, but it's kind of, yeah, this is what we've always thought about Oregon football. Like, AJ, remember back in the day. whenever we were in college, it was like, well, Oregon guys have like 45 different uniforms. They got every single

pair of Nikes, Jordan. They got everything. That's a good recruiting tip. Like, hey, come here, you're going to have the nicest Nike stuff, which is obviously innovative ahead of its time, whenever it came to uniforms and everything. Our lockers, I think I remember their lockers having, like, a TV in each one, and chargers and everything,

and that being like a selling point. That was like a selling point for these school. As soon as I get here, they still got that fastball if you need. I mean, a full box of shit. shoes, hoodies, I mean, T-shirt, this hat I'm wearing now, I will say, I had to take off 14 stickers off of this thing. Yeah, they even got like a bent one that's going around the, you got to like get the, you know, you got to like get the corner of.

So we got a lot of stickers on this thing. I think we know it's legit, and I'm thankful that it is legit coming directly from the people at Oregon who have always been good to us. So on that note, let's talk about the tush-bush, okay? Let's talk about Tushba. Yeah. So I'm watching game on iPhone, okay, on table with a lot of actual China around it. A lot of actual China.

China plates. Yeah, China plates, yes. Kay Adams, sitting to my left, my wife, to my right, my wife has her phone playing. We are right in front of stage. Okay, we are right in front of stage, center, left center stage. ex-royal's right center stage, Carson Daly, left, so we're right there in the front. And we got this game on, obviously, we're watching.

And I see the four straight pushers, Donner. Okay, I'm watching. I'm watching what's going on. And I don't have the time or the ability, because a lot of eyes on me, too many, I'd say, which is once again why we don't do the things, go to these things. But I was honored to be there.

I was honored to be there. I wasn't able to go on my phone and see the reaction. I assumed, though, that people were going to lose their mind. And allegedly, that is certainly what took place. There was people calling to obviously ban it. There was people saying, hey, if you're going to run, if you want to run a play out of town, run that play four times on national television. They make everybody see how terrible it is. I saw a lot of people saying that.

And I thought that was a pretty clever thing. But I think it would, what, the fall starts obviously outrageous. But I think this is the most Eagles move of all time. Now, I think the Eagles are currently in an identity crisis. I think the Eagles don't really know who they are. anymore. And if you look at not only fourth quarters, but only the second half here, you look at the stats. I wasn't able to catch the entire game. I was watching the game. We watched a recap. I didn't see every single snap. But second half has become a problem

for this Philadelphia Eagles team. Do we ever think that about them last season? No. Two seasons go, though, whenever they lose six straight to end of the year, yes, we thought that. So it's like, are these the old problems creeping back in to the Philadelphia Eagles? Are these brand new problems? And maybe is there a little bit of a locker room situation brewing? You know, I hate doing that. I hate even asking that question, especially this early. in the season to a world champion team. K.A.J. Oh, this team has won the world champion. They are the reigning defending, undisputed. Shout to Paul Heyman. World champions right now.

And to question their anything is a little bit as to nine, especially because they're four and two now. Okay. So they have a great, they have a great record. But you start looking at some things. It's like, this is abnormal for this team. I think the four straight tush push is not abnormal. It was third and short, fourth and inches. Then they're on like basically goal line. They're going to run that thing. That is, they have proven that that's the only thing we know about the Philadelphia Eagles. Everything else, it's like, we have no idea. Are all these guys going to be on this team one year from now?

Do we, are we staring down a potential Carson Wentz, Doug Peterson, full blow-up situation in Philadelphia? It's like, how can you not start asking those questions whenever these things start to look at? A.J. Brown, like, I don't know about that meeting that everybody else said I was at for a long time. You've got to ask them. It's like, there's weird shit going on with this Philadelphia Eagles team that we don't expect. But I believe in Coach Sireani. I believe in him being able to cultivate a culture.

And yeah, I don't know about the tush pushes because that's just Philadelphia Eagle football at this point, but I don't know about Philadelphia Eagles in a locker room. This feels weird. This just feels very weird, AJ, don't you think? Yeah, it feels a bit abnormal for the defending champions, but that's the thing. Like, they, I don't know. You're going to scrutinize, especially national TV game Thursday night and all this stuff. They came off a championship last year, and we're going to sit there and everything is under

a microscope. So they'll be all right, but you know. The city doesn't help either. Well, that's Philly, man. No, I know. The highs are high, the lows are low, right? I'm saying, like, if this was in Indianapolis, like, Colts had won a Super Bowl last year,

and then they started four and two, and they didn't look great or whatever, and they had a bad loss, say, to whatever, the Jags or Titans or whatever coming up on a Thursday night, I'd be like, ah, whatever. But, like, when you get in towns like this, like, they don't love, like, if you don't look perfect every single game.

So the city doesn't help, I'm sure it doesn't, it adds to the locker room dynamic and stuff like that, and the players not getting the touches and stuff that they want. But so, yeah, I mean, it's a whole, plus, you know, Kelly, Moe went down to New Orleans, new coordinators. There's a lot of factors adding into kind of the whole Eagle situation of a four-and-two team

that doesn't look as good as they did last season when they won the Super Bowl. Well, hold on. Didn't they look bad early, though? Didn't they look bad early? Last year, there's so many questions last year. One day, were they two-and-two out, Michael said, or whatever? So they lost some games early, and they were calling for everybody's head early last season, too.

It was Nick Siriani that was going to get fired last year whenever he was doing his entire thing. Now it feels like a Batulah issue. Even like Lane Johnson and the boys are starting to talk about how predictable their offense is because. That's never good. Joining us now is a man who might have a little bit more information on the subject we are discussing. He's a Michigan man. He's also a senior NFL insider for ESPN.

The man who's always cooking in the kitchen, the chef, Adam Schofker. Yes, Dave. Pat, that looks pretty cool out there in Oregon, that gift box and everything like that. Did you thank Mr. Knight for that? So Mr. Knight, probably inevitably the chain of command, thank I should get to. But this came from athletic director, Rob Mullets, good guy, great guy. You know, he's Morgan Town, West Virginia guy. Now he's the AD at Oregon in the middle of this.

They got cranes everywhere here, and they also got a lot of Nike Birch. That hoodie didn't fit necessarily perfectly, so we're going to give another go in this box. So you're going to have to deal with me. Maybe things will start changing here. But we need to talk about what's going on. Philly. Weird. This feels weird. Now, we believe in Siriani being able to kind of, you know, write the ship. Devante Smith, A.J. Brown, there was a lot of alleged issues last year. I think something was even said on radio about a potential issue that happened. And then when he

went to Super Bowl, Devante Smith and A.J. Brown are the ones dumping the Gatorade on Nick Siriani, actually. So he, former wide receiver, feeling like he had to do a good job. Last year, as they became a run-dominant team to win a Super Bowl to keep everybody going in the same direction. Is this carryover from last year? What do you think is going on over there? And how do you feel about the state of the Philadelphia Eagles right now? Well, first of all, I think last year, if I'm not mistaken, I think they had the same record at a similar point in the season.

They were three and two during their buy, went in, had a bunch of meetings, and came out and then just steamrolled the rest of the NFL in the second half of the season. And I think they've got a long weekend now to correct some of these things. But look, it certainly seems like there are issues that this team has to address. You mentioned the offense being predictable. Dan Roloski did a great point. breakdown on get-up yesterday morning of how you could tell what play was coming. And that was

Dan in studio. And you could only imagine what it's like for other defensive coaches and coordinators to figure it out how Saconan lining up next to Jalen Hertz or right behind them usually was an indication of whether it was a running play or a passing play. They'd become predictable. You heard Lane Johnson after the game say they had become predictable on offense. And I just think that this is not to blame Kevin Petulow, the new offensive coordinator. I just think that's a tough job to do. There are 32 of them in the NFL. And there's an art to calling plays in the NFL.

And there aren't a lot of great play callers. And it's not something you just pick up, even if the personnel and the talent is really strong and just think you're going to come out rolling. Just think of anybody starting any job. it takes a while to pick up the nuances of that job, to understand the intricacies of that job, to figure out the way to do that job. And I think Kevin Petullo is in the process of learning that. But the issue is that we live in a world where every action is scrutinized, criticized, debated,

and they're living in a world where they set the bar so high. They've won, what, 20 of the last 22 games now, 21 of 23? So even when they lose, they come under the scrutiny because there are questions, there are issues that are real. But I think they've got some things going on on on the offense side of the football that have just spread out and affected the team and affected the way they've performed. And so far it's been a disappointing start.

But it was disappointing last year and they figured it out and turned it around. Yeah, there's certainly an opportunity for that to happen for the Philadelphia Eagles this season. And we would not be surprised, I guess, and this could potentially become the story of this particular group of Philadelphia Eagles that could be in the middle of beginning a dynasty, although it doesn't feel like it at the moment with the questions that are being asked. And you talked about somebody

picking up a new career and just, you know, going off without a hitch. You forget about what A.J. Hawk did whenever McAfee and Hawkeffey and Hawk sports talk launched. Hell yeah. A.J. Hawk dropped in and was a thousand. Batson. Batting a

thousand. What happened last night in baseball? Tice? Something big I heard. Yeah, the the Dodgers advanced on a pretty brutal play beating the Phillies. Philly's had a chance, made an air with the bases loaded in the 9th. Kind of heartbreaking, actually. So, yeah, he threw it away there. Yeah.

Not a great night. Not a great night. All right, tough night for Philly. But New York finally gets a win last night. I think they desperately needed it, obviously. The Giants pull through two rookies. Jackson, Dart, and Scadaboo. 4-4 and 6 are all over everybody's timeline right now.

And there's highlights from Scadaboo whenever he was in high school doing the same shit he's doing right now. This dude has been a rolling ball of bust your ass since he started playing football. His mom told a story on college game day whenever we did a feature on him about him taking his brother's pads and running into telephone poles. Last year when I learned of this man, and more specifically, the size of his head. His head size, he's like AJ Hawk. He utilizes his head as a weapon because it actually is.

It's bigger, it's tougher, it's thicker, I think, than most folks. and he utilizes that. And he is a dog. There he is. He's an absolute dog. At Arizona State, he was electrifying. And everybody was like, well, his size with the way he plays, he can't be Mike All-Star at that size.

And then you hear his teammates talk about it. He's like, this guy's an idiot, but he's the man. He might be the Rob Grancowski running backs, actually. He seems to have a football IQ that's like through the roof, an infectious personality. And everywhere he goes is seemingly having. having success. This guy is a dog through and through, and his dad, I think, owns a pest control company. Okay, so you're talking blue-collar absolute dog. Literally generational, and he is

entertaining to watch, and so is Jackson Dart. Can you talk a little bit about how special this Giants team is and follow-up? Why don't we have Jackson Dart starting at the beginning of the season? Cheney, what did we not know at the time that he was the guy? A few things here. First of all, these two guys have brought an incredible amount of juice. All of a sudden, a few weeks ago, Malik Nevers tears his ACL. Everybody thinks the season's over. They're left for dead. And now it looks like this franchise has been infused with juice. Jackson Dart has got so much swag to him and so much confidence that I don't even know that he realizes that he shouldn't be going out and beating the defending

Super Bowl champions, but he did. Cam Scadaboo runs like he's a character out of the Flintstones, and to me, you could start calling the guy, Bam, Bam, Bam, Cam Scadaboo right now. Okay, Jeffty. Okay, Chapie. Bam, bam, bam.

Bam, bam. Bam, bam. Are you sure you get crap for that, Shifty. Yeah, that's not a bad name. That's not a bad name. Bam, bam, scadaboo. I like the way it comes out. Like a bam, bam, cams cat. Yeah, I like it.

Flintstones, right out of, what are they call that, the town Bedrock? Bedrock. Yeah, come on, bro. Bedrock, straight out of bedrock, and that guy runs hard, and yeah, Mike Allsod is a great comparison, but he looks like he wants to just run you over.

He's the human tush-bush, is what he is. Like, the Eagles have a whole unit going. This guy pushes everybody by himself and just runs over people. Like, this is Zach Bond right there. Zach Bond is an all-pro linebacker, and it's like, get out of my way. So these two

guys, these two rookies. Boom. They have just filled this team with energy. And if the Giants, just think about this. I know there's so many games in the NFL that go this way, but they were in Dallas. They went to overtime. They could have and should have won that game. They'd be three and three

right now, and we will be talking about them and saying, could they win the NFCE? That's what you'd be talking about if they had won the game in Dallas. But they did their... Bam, bam, Cam, Stada, boo. Boom. Push, push. This dude is unbelievable.

Yeah. You're talking about, you're talking about a three, if they were three and three, with these two rookies being the conversation piece and seemingly being perfect for each other, but not just each other. They're perfect for Dayball. We obviously have seen how Dayball operates with Hard Knocks. We respect the way he runs those meetings, how he runs his kind of draft evaluation process. I've gotten a chance to chat with him whenever he was in town for the Combine. Feels like he is a guy that is very similar.

He's a football guy through and through. Everybody said he has this incredible ability to bring out the best in people, and then we've seen it not really work at the New York Football Giants for whatever reason. And then obviously Hard Knocks opens up, and we learn even more about him and the entire operation, entire process. And then Saquan does his thing. It's been a dump on the Giants operation process for some time now, I would say, from a lot of different people.

Dayball feels like he's got these two sons. Okay, these are, it feels like they are maybe. be his boys. These are Dayball's boys right here, Tam Scadaboo and Jackson Dart. And it feels like they're building something special. And I think he even cares for him like he's their damn father. And last night, Daveau maybe ended up in some

shit. Are we thinking that he's maybe in he's going to be in some stuff for some stuff that happened last night, even though they get a big win? There was the incident here where Jackson Dart goes down. And he's hit on the shoulder if you watch the replay, but he has to adjust his mouthpiece and his helmet. This is a better

angle of it right here. Hit right there the shoulder, goes down, his helmet gets dislodged, and it looks like to the overhead spotter, okay, we got to get this guy in the medical tent, and Jackson Dark goes over to the medical tent, Brian Dayball goes over to the medical tent, which is a no-no. Coach is not allowed in the tent, near the tent, has to stay out of the tent, there he is, peeking his head into the tent, and the NFL said today that it is initiating a review of what occurred last night. Brian Dave will apologize to the head trainer right there for getting heated because the head trainer or the head doctor is trying to be a part of the decision-making press.

He doesn't even make the final decision, but he's a part of the team there. And Mike Dave, obviously, didn't like what he heard, but he apologized to that man. Go! Sam, I'm going to burn a time out if I need him back. Like, how quick he said I need to burn a time. That was after Russ didn't pick up the 30-9. He's like, let's get, come on. Boy, tough night for Russ.

Russ throws it into dirt gets his ass booed out of the field and then all of a sudden the head coach offensive corner goes, oh no, where is this Let's go! That is the worst case scenario for Russell Wilson. All the part, the let's go thing. Certainly cherry on top of it all.

But it has been a week of fines, you know, and has there been ever first time I think we got a chance to see inside the tent, you actually sent me this tweet moments before we want live. I think the guy's name is Dan. a tour of the Blue Tent for the first time last night before the game.

Here's Dr. Sills. Never any coaches in here, never any other players in here, never any anybody else. And athletic trainer will be here too, but never more than those people, never any coaches. They put that out before the game, never, never, never. And then Dave was like, no. And then Camp Scatabal went in there too. Like, it never happens, but it's going to happen tonight. just hours after Alan Sills was in there, right?

Like, again... I shouldn't laugh. We shouldn't laugh. We shouldn't laugh. Obviously, it's very serious, and that blue tent should be a sanctuary and an escape for medical professionals to decide what's best for the player. I understand that completely.

But only... I'm just telling only in the NFL could you have the medical director giving a tour of it right before the game saying this is never where a coach or a player goes only to have those situations unfold right after. So the NFL, obviously going to have to set precedent here with a fine, because I don't think we've ever seen this as Dr. Silas was alluding to.

This never happened. It's been a week of fines for people, though, from the NFL that aren't players, right? This feels like this is something. Do we know what this could be in the proximity of? Listen, first of all, I don't know how new the blue tents are, but it's not like they've been around forever. So what is it, the last decade or so? and I don't recall a coach going into the tent or going by the tent and I don't recall a player

going in there other than to obviously be checked which is what it's there for in the first place and the league takes those issues very seriously the NFLPA is going to take those issues very seriously there's a perception here look and we've seen the league this week totally separate issues but Jerry Jones makes an action accidental gesture to the fans in that very stadium, $250,000. Jonathan Gannon gets fined by his team $100,000 for sideline altercation with Amari DiMarcato. So it was a week of fines, and there's going to be something that comes from there, some sort of discipline, whether it's to Brian Dable alone or Brian Dable and the team or Brian Dable and Cam Scataboo. We'll see how this all shakes out, but the NFL has launched a review of this entire.

situation and we'll see how it plays out. Make sure you get that in. Don't, you know, you got to make sure you get that. Bam, bam, bam, cam, that's a good name. Hey, that's a good. I see the shirts already. Don't. Oh, yeah. What was that? Ty, what was that movie? John Goodman was in it, I think. It was a human.

Breckett Ralph? Oh, that was good movie. The Flintstone movie, isn't there, like, a human one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. John Goodman was Fred Flintstone. That is correct. It's a great movie. Okay, so that I, whole summer. I watched that movie every day. I had a neighbor, okay, that we were sleeping at his house every night. Only had that movie.

That was the only movie he had. That's awesome. Through and through. He was such a good, Barney's such a good guy. He takes the test for Fred and Barney take a test to get a promotion. And Fred obviously dumb as rocks. He's got a son named Bam Bam. And Barney, you know, this guy's super genius, a little bit of a nerd, though.

They take this test. Barney feels like he owes Fred. This is such a good story of friendship. So he actually takes Fred's test, puts it in his entry, and takes his test, puts it in Fred's thing. Fred becomes boss. Smartest guy ever's not the best test score we've ever seen. This is the best test score we've ever seen.

All of a sudden, Fred gets a little bit too big for his britches. And I'll tell you what, that's a good story of triumph. It's a good story of losing friendship, losing yourself, and then regaining loyalty at the end. That's a good movie. That was a good trip down memory lane there with Bam Bam, Cam Scataboo. The amount of photos, I think, that we could have, and branding is a good thing. The human push push also not bad, you know, because we have human torpedo,

obviously that's been used, human centipede's been used before. Human push push, I don't think, has ever been used. I love everything you're about, Schefter. Today is a great day for you. All right. Let's chat about some other things happening around the NFL. Boston Connor has a question for you, Shepty. Yeah, Shepty, speaking of the fines this past week, it's been a tough,

go for Gannon and you know this isn't his first or second year this is kind of the proof it year for the Cardinals and it was a good start but now they're heading to Indianapolis with you know Kyler who I believe you reported practice today so he might be going but still a very very tough test especially with two coaches who are familiar with each other going back to Philadelphia but are we looking at a situation where Gannon is kind of on his last legs here? Is this one of those not prove it games, but massive game need to beat a big team?

And then can you also, real quick, go back and just double check for me. Cam Scadaboo, excuse me, Bam Bam, Cam Scataboo. Doesn't he keep his dog bones in the blue tent, so he has to go in there? I can't verify that, but it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case with

Bam, Cam, Scadaboo from Bedrock. In regards to the coils, you know, I think the situation that you run to there. The tricky, dangerous spot that they're in right now, to me, is that last week that game was won. If Demarcato goes in with that touchdown, it's 27 to 6 with 12 minutes and 42 seconds left in the fourth quarter. The game is over. They've won the game. They lose a game that never should have happened, right? This play is going to be replayed for a long period of time. Demarcato drops the ball at the goal line. Doesn't count. The game,

is over, over, if he scores on that touchdown. And now this team has to bounce back going on the road. And when you lose a game like that, it's interesting psychologically because I just think back to last year, the Bears were four and two going into Washington. They lost on the Hail Mary play, and they proceeded to lose, including that game, 10 straight games. And I think that's the challenge that Jonathan Gannon faces now is to lift this team up after a crushing loss like that to the Titans last week where we got snaps bouncing off Kyler's helmet and we've got interceptions that wind up as touchdowns and we've got

touchbacks or touchdowns that wind up as touchbacks. Like the whole thing, it was one of the more improbable losses you could ever see. and so improbable that's a good way to describe that i think that is a great way to describe that improbable all the shit improbable of happening all of it you just even even after the ball gets snapped off his face pretty good snap it looks like right to his face the guy from the titans just banging him on the top of the head immediately after i mean he just got sunned immediately after getting a ball in his face it's like worst case scenario for a snap to a quarterback or uh holder or punter i'll get hit in the face bang okay i get hit in the face it's embarrassing knock

but I'm supposed to be a professional athlete. Obviously, that's out of a movie. Oh, now they get it great. We're up. The guy bats him on top of his head just bongs them. Just like three. One, two, three. Thanks, kid.

Bam, bam, bang, bang. So then they do the kick thing into the touchdown thing, and it's like, geez, Louise, that's a tough day with the toss thing. Good luck out there, Coach Cannon. We believe anybody. Good luck. Good luck, coach. We luck out there.

Go ahead, AJ. Chef, do you mentioned it. We got some high-profile quarterbacks that may be a little bit banged up. Is your any news on the injury front as far as quarterbacks here heading into this week? I would say as we sit here right now, 1236 Friday afternoon, it looks like Cooper Rush is going to start against the Rams in place of Lamar Jackson. It looks like Mack Jones is going to start in place of Brock Purdy against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a big matchup in Tampa on Sunday afternoon. And we don't know on the Cardinals whether Kyler will make it back or whether it'll be

Jacoby Brissette up against his former team. I think that's the one quarterback question mark right now that's still out there. But I think right now we all be surprised that for Lamar plays, the Ravens are on a buy next week. So they'll give them a couple of weeks. And then they're hoping that that team can make a push in the second half. And Brock Purdy just hasn't been right with the toe. And Mac Jones has played great.

And Purdy hasn't practiced this week. So to me, I think it'd be a surprise if it weren't Mac Jones going on Sunday against the Buccaneers. and as he continues. Hey, it's the story of the Joneses this year. Keep it up with the Jones. Mac Jones, Daniel Jones. Shepty. Shepty.

You're on. Wow. Holy. Wow. He's feeling. Chefty. Chefty. Shefty.

Chefty. Chefty. Hey, listen. You're not, we're not the only one cheering for you. Gumpies over here until going crazy for you. Yep. Jeffty. That's a good camera.

He fits perfect out here. it's perfect out here with that beard in the head. Obviously, we're back here in the Pacific Northwest, so obviously he loves it. Shepty. It is keeping up with the Jones and it's going to be tough to keep up with Daniel Jones, brother. Indiana Jones, brother. He's doing his thing. You mentioned on Monday it felt like Lamar wasn't going to play this week because of the

bi-week kind of forecast ahead. You kind of, I don't want to say, lean that way, but that's what you were kind of saying to us on Monday. They've been a plan all along, or are they scared long-term with this thing? They're not, right? Like whole season, more of the season, not really question mark. by week is expected to be kind of the time where Lamar will be back on the other side of that. And that's how they're going to try to make a push for the Ravens fans like Buda and Stavi.

Like they need to know like, hey, the next two weeks we're building up for this final push that we're going for. Is that kind of the feel that you're getting with that situation? Hope is that you get Lamar back. I mean, well, they'll see how his hamstrings doing. Hamstrings are tricky. My guess, just a guess two weeks out is, yeah, that's when they're going to try to bring them back after the bottom. and this team will hope to get back more reinforcements. They've lost so many players along the way.

Some guys aren't going to be back. Obviously, they lose Namdi Madabike last week into a season-ending neck injury, and that is crushing to the pass rush. But at some point in time here, like if the losses keep piling up, from one of the rare times, the Ravens may turn out to be sellers at the trade deadline. We already saw them deal Adoppe O'A on Tuesday to the Chargers. They get back to safety. There were some draft picks involved, but you wonder if they'll,

wind up trading away a couple more players. Like, they have tight ends? Is there a team out that needs tight ends? We'll see that one. What's going on? You even notice? He's an artist. He's an artist.

He's an artist. He's going on right now, brother. I don't know if you know what's really happening right here in front of your eyes. So whenever you're on this show, you've got to know that there's a chance at any of these angles could be live in real time. But what you're saying, I think, makes a lot of sense for all us NFL fans as we score Sasey our way to a daytime. What's the bad award called? Jizzy, what is it called? Jizzy, you got it. Yeah, Jizzy, I think.

The big Jizzy is the big one. That's not what it is. It's a Razzie. What's it? Razzie is what it's called? We were trying to earn one of those, Schefter, so we apologize for the camera cuts, you know. A little W.W.E.C. can't see how the magic is made, you know, try to do a little bit of that. Speaking of magic, I felt like there was a lot of business magic happening around the NFL.

Trades galore seemingly came out of nowhere. Tone has a question for you, Shifty. Yeah, Shepter, you talked about the Ravens there and the Jags and the Browns have been involved in trades, the Bengals, the Chargers. It feels like it's more active early now than it has been in the past. Does that mean that it could be more active around the actual trade deadline as well? Well, if we go back and look, and my great researcher, Evan Kaplan, and send me a number on this because I asked them to look into it for me.

But back in 2015, in the month of October, leading up to the trade deadline, so we're talking 10 years ago there were four trades the next year there were five that gives an idea of what the league used to be a decade ago last year in the month of october uh leading up to the trade deadline there were 18 jeez 18 last year now quadruple early in the week i figured oh we'll get about a dozen before but i i may be low on that now like there have been at least at least 12 trades in the month of October for each of the last five years. Damn. And we're off to a flying start.

So I think we're going to see a lot more activity. And I won't be surprised if in the month of October we get 20 trades altogether. You know what happens here? All these teams, they start seeing the other teams making trades and they want to get in the action. They want to make some trades and teams win a game or two. They want to make some trades. everybody wants to make trades and so we're going to see some action

by the Tuesday, November 4th trade deadline. We're selling, we're buying. I like that. The Indianapolis Colts just restructured Kenny Moore's contract, I think, freed up like $3.8 million. Trey Hendrickson's coming to the Indianapolis goal from Lou Aniromo is bringing back the entire funky bunch. Oh, shit.

I haven't heard that, but you never know. Look, the Colts are going to want to make some moves if they keep winning games like this. They are the number one seed in the AFC as of today. And If they keep rolling like that, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to bring in more help. What seed? Number one seed in the AFC as of right now.

Nice. Got update that. Wow. Man, Steichen did coach in Philly. There is a receiver in Philly, too, that might be unhappy. Oh, AJ Brown. Yeah, that would be all you can eat out here, brother. Daniel Dimes is a delivery man.

He makes everybody happy. And we can start the going on it. We appreciate he is DoorDash, DoorDash, Danny Dimes. Oh, keeping up with the Joneses. I mean, everything that's happening out here right now is amazing. From the human tush push all the way to the Bam Bam, Cam Scataboo, then all the way through, keeping up with the Joneses. What else did you say? You said something else in there that was pretty brandable worthy.

I don't know. A human touch push. Did you say that? Yeah, we hit that. Yeah. There's so many. There's a centip. It's full of them.

What did you say about? centipede, Shepter? Yeah, you've seen that, right? Centipede, I didn't say anything about a centipede. No lie. No, I thought he said, I heard it. Didn't I hear it? Yeah, I thought he said the push-push-push looks like human centipede. Yeah. Okay, that's cool, you, Shepter. I didn't know you knew that about that.

Ladies and gentlemen, the legend, Adam Schifter. He's laughing. That's a damn Adam Schifter. He always knows what's going on. I appreciate that. I got a chance to catch up with that, baby. Go ahead and play drums on that thing. We got it. I got a chance to catch up with him earlier, and I was like, hey, what can we ask you about?

You know, everything, whatever you want. I'm like, how does he keep up with literally every piece of information that's happening at all times, AJ? And he talked about the trades being off to a hot start. That's good news for us. And I think it's good news for teams that are doing well right now. But, boy, if you see your team being a team that's selling at that trade deadline, that's going to be tough.

That's going to be tough kind of realization of what your team is this year. Yeah, football feels like it's different to other sports where it doesn't happen as much. But now I think the more we go, like year and year, I think we're going to see more and more trades. Not only from great teams that are maybe underperforming with stars that are unhappy, boom, ship them off a place like maybe Indy picks up a few studs at the deadline, huh? Oh, we're doing some buy-in. I remember there was a poll saying that we're going to be doing some dying this season. So all of a sudden, a transition potential brand-new building in Indianapolis from top to bottom

has become maybe, wait a minute, are they building a dynasty over there? And boy, that is a great thing to be experiencing, but we might not be the only ones. There's seemingly a brand new era happening for that New York Giants football team that we watched last night. Joining us now is a man who obviously latches Dan Wagon

to this one very, very early. And taking another victory laugh, ladies and gentlemen, NFL pundit, QB Guru, ESPN's face, Dan Oloski. Yeah, Dan, oh, great. You're back in the kitchen. We're going to be watching you eat the whole time we talked to you. We were very pumped up about that.

Gumpy, weren't we talking about how pumped up we were about that? Favorite thing on Friday is Dan just eating in his kitchen. Yeah, we talk about how this guy's like Brad Pitt, Ocean's 11. Isn't that kind of the conversation? Spot on. Yeah, that's what we say over there. So we're pumped on. You made two guys really excited that are currently in Eugene, Oregon,

for what your setup is right now in that beautiful kitchen of yours. Please tell the family, we said hello. You said Jackson Dart should be a top 10 guy whenever we were going through the draft process. During the college football season, I don't think you had watched any film on him. then you said after watching film on this guy after like getting a chance to learn his game and fully dive in jackson dart is a guy what did you see then and what have you seen from him thus far outside of just moxie and pure incredible leadership from a rookie at quarterback what is his game like transitioning right now with day ball yeah i would say like coming on school i think the things that stood out the most to me and it was very similar to jaden daniels two years ago in regards to i did not know a ton of about them and when it came to like real true NFL prospects and then when you watched them game by game it was like I liked them more and more and more and um you know Jackson comes from that old miss offense that everyone kind of knocked on him sitting there saying well they get to

line of scrimmage they play with tempo lane kiffin he turns to the sideline lane pauls his plays and how smart is he and my whole thing was like I understand that there's there is truth to that but if the quarterback plays in it long enough he knows why I'm calling the play then he's learning on the fly kind of with me and as long as you can understand why we're doing that I don't see that as a knock so I never saw his offense as a knock I think the second thing was I honestly don't believe it oh miss there was like baked in completions there was easy stuff a lot of the throws he made look like that one like it was down the field stuff that was high risk high reward very challenging not a lot that was kind of that RPO dink and dunk under five yard

easy type of stuff. And so I really liked his ability to throw the ball down field. And then my favorite trait from quarterbacks is what do you do when panic sets in, or at least the moment of panic where you got pressure or coverage changes or you like you got to make a decision with the football. And I remember falling in love with Joe Burrow in that regard, very much so the same with Jaden. And that was one of the things I loved about Jackson. Then I thought he was the most strongest in the pocket, you know, when it came to his ability to move in the pocket, but still be fundamentally strong in it, and we're seeing it. And so, like, I felt, I remember begging a couple of my people, friends that I know in the league, like, dude, take this kid top 10. He's going to be

a very, very, very good player. Obviously, he didn't listen to me. But I honestly was really high in them. And then I think through a couple games, I would say this, and people are going to take this out of context. But, like, when you watch him last night, there are moments when you're like, dude, that looks like early Josh Allen. That looks like early Lamar Jackson. Go to hell. Like Baker Mayfield. It does, dude, because here's what I say in regards to the Josh and Lamar early years.

Like, he makes plays and you're sitting there watching. You're like, you don't really know what's going on right now, do you? Like, you probably don't have a great understanding of like what the pressure is or what the coverage is, but you're finding a way to make a play. Yeah, you're just, you just make a play. Like make a play. And Josh and Lamar, we're certainly in that world early. on in their careers where you're like make a play like you just found a way to do something positive and then i say baker's baker's always been you know one of the things like crazy fearless

crazy fearless and jackson plays that way like don't don't like i think what what we watch with dart is like it's that stereotypical everybody else around him is better because of them you know you're watching him elevate everybody just by his style like don't you think he when i watch dart i'm like oh he walks out on the field thinking he's the best player in the field he he he he really thought he was the best player on the field last night. And then all of a sudden so does Scataboo. And then all of a sudden so does Lord Jordan Humphrey.

And then all of a sudden, like Theo Johnson does. Like these guys are just playing so much more confident because this dude just continues to make plays for them. Yeah, I think also about Jackson Dart, and you talk about it radiating. I love that he's taking on the identity of Dayball, I think,

too. Like that feels like a very good match. Him, Scataboo, Dayball. I feel like they all see life in ball the same way. So they're going to be pulling for things to be motivated by. And I know this has happened to you before. It has now happened to us. Roll the press conference from Jackson Dart last night, please.

I just feel like we have a little bit more like excitement, you know, in the locker room. Like, we feel like anytime we go out there on the field game, but we're playing against, like, you know, we have a chance to win. Like, it doesn't matter what Vegas says. It doesn't matter what the spread is. You know, I was watching the Pat McAfee, and they're talking about the point. spread of who's going to win the game. And we don't care about that stuff.

Like, we feel like we're confident to go out there and put on good formless and win games. He's watching the fat back. He's watching the part of the story. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate him doing that. And Jackson, we're big fans of yours. I think if he is a watcher of the program, he knows that.

Cam Scataboo too, I would like to let that lock up. Scatibu's awesome. The cut of their gym. We love the cut of their gym. of their gym. But I do appreciate the fact that they're looking for it still, AJ. In this world of hearing everything, they're not scared of it at all. They're taking it and going for it, which

makes me like them even more. This Giants team might be on the precipice of something special. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Dan, pivoting the other side, the Eagles. What do you think their issues offensively, why they're struggling in the second half? When you watch their offense, I guess, what do they need to do to get back on track?

And, Dan, we know you're trying to get the offensive coordinator job right now. Don't answer. Make your case, Dan. no no good it it's it trust me trust me that is i've done that in the past before when i was young i've gone after people like with the job thing i'll never do that again so like it's never one thing it's never one thing i would say one i think they're very much so in the shotgun way too much and i just come from the world and belief that when you're in the shotgun as much as you're like i don't know what this play is but i could just tell you where sequin is it's a pass yep like

it's where when you line up in the gun and AJ you know this better than I do like you're constantly giving defenses tails and tendencies so one you're in the gun way too much and then if you watch the Giants defensive line last night AJ in early downs especially when Sakewan was in that like he's almost a half a yard behind Jalen you would watch the Giants defensive line like because they're in the gun, all they would do would they play stand up and they would put hands on the offensive line or like tackle of the Eagles and they would

just watch what you're doing. And there's no feel of firing off the ball in many ways. There's no feel of like doubt. They're just okay. I think it's Ron confirmed and they just go. I just think they're way too predictable in that regard. So the shotgun. I think the second thing is this.

They're not a play action centric offense. So from a defensive perspective, if you see Seekwan in that little bit of a depth alignment, which is more than often a run for them, and you know that they're not really a play action offense. Once you see Jalen kind of catch the ball and do this, your sellout run, because you're not really like worried about that play action or that stretch or that doubt. And I don't think they make defenses play in doubt in that regard. So that's it. They're running the same past concepts on a consistent basis like that pick that should have

gone for a pick six or almost does. That was the fourth time. In this. game the fourth time in that game they ran that past concept out of that formation you can't do that in the league that much you just can't like and so i think there's a predictability in their past concepts that they really just run the same three or four and then yes there's a reality that their guards are not playing up to the level that we we saw last year um and so when you're predictable and simple it's really difficult to go and operate is it an easy fix dana is that something you can like in the course of a week or two? Yeah, and I don't think it's this

180 change. This isn't the war on gun. It's you have to get out of the gun more. You have to be willing to put the quarterback under center a little bit and just create a little bit of maybe a downhill run game, maybe a little bit of a play action, maybe get your offensive line

to fire off the football a little bit more instead of being a little RPO-centric. And so I'm not telling everybody that they got to go 50-50. Last year, they were probably 70-30, 75-25 type of thing. But I think that would be a place where I start. And then, you know, past concept-wise, it's not, you know, listen, they weren't a team that threw the ball of the middle field a ton last year either.

That was a reality for them. But they were also so dominant up front that it wasn't a necessity. You're not right now. So you have to create some advantage for your offense. And they just don't. All right. I didn't know how many more you had. You said, like, one thing, and then you had 10 things. Feels like you've broken down this offense, pretty good.

But your biggest problem, it seems like, your biggest gripe with what they do offensively is that they can read the knuckles. It's too easy. Hey, if they're red, they're doing this, if they're working, they're doing this. These defensive guys, and Connor, you pointed it out on the photo, that guy who gets that pick almost six, Sequin Barkley, Barclay, busting his ass, by the way, making a tackle. Same with Jaylen, he was down there. You love to see that, no matter what's happening in the situation.

but Connor you pointed out he's smiling the whole time. D.Bs, I wish Darius was on right now, are probably loving playing against his Philadelphia Eagles team Orlovsky, right? That's probably something that's very real. Yeah, absolutely, because you've, I mean, think about it in this regard, from a

defense perspective, both as a totality thing and an individual thing. If you're the corner, you are like seeing three or four routes. You're not seeing that many different routes, you know, and so, I mean, even on the first third down. They motioned Dallas

Goddard out there. They run the five-yard short in the corner. They run that like 17 times a game. And so I think that you know, there just needs to be a lot of growth in what they're trying to do. And I'm not saying that this is like you've got to reinvent yourself

but yeah, from a defensive line perspective, I talk to defensive people in the NFL about this. I even asked Jason McCordia on NFL live about this. I said, hey, am I like searching for ghosts in this alignment thing. I don't want to be making stuff up. He's like, no. He's like, we would have people if we were playing a team like that on the sideline yelling to us because sometimes when you're lined up, you can't. Yeah, like you can't necessarily see it. So they

would have people on the sideline yelling. And I've texted people that I know, hey, do you see this? And the responses have been, yes, there's absolutely tendencies and tells that we would and half paid attention to. So I just think that's something they got to address. A lacrosse dad, a lacrosse dad on your kid's team doesn't really. Like the guy you know, you said. Good point. They said, yeah, you know, you're not doing that.

But McCordy, I like McCordy saying that, though. That's good, okay? Just for future reference, TV reps, you know, the whole TV reps. And also, digitally, let's get you a deal with the NFL so you stop stealing their footage. Cost money, Dan. Yeah, stealing your footage, like, you know. I would love to. I would love to.

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That's what it's all about, Pat. I don't know how you're a little quick two, three minute break went over there, but you've got a beautiful setting out there. I know we got Coach Saban coming up in about eight, ten minutes. How's it going, man? Yeah, it's beautiful out here.

I don't know what this thing. I like it. It's that new hat? Yeah, the back, this, there's no, same hat from the first hour, same shirt from the first hour. And they actually heard that I, I mentioned the hoodie was too small.

So they actually brought up a new one. Oh, there we go. Oregon football. This place is the greatest. The greatest, very kind of us. It's obviously far. A man who made the long haul, and, you know, I think he's going to have some incredible opinions on what happened last night,

especially because the two guys that are running shit, literally and figuratively for the New York Giants, are rookies. And obviously, we just got a chance to enjoy their entire final seasons at college, both at Arizona State and at Ole Miss. A man who called the game last night in New York. I don't know where he is right now. I know the plain map thing. that I saw has them all

over the place for like the third straight. This has been maybe the worst setup for him convenience-wise, three straight weeks to start this season. I mean, it's been, hey, you're traveling to long haul, but obviously he loves it. Ladies and gentlemen, Blue Eyes, former president of Ohio Kirkkirkhurstreet.

Yeah. Former president. You're out here. You made it out here. I did. I did. I landed, I think we landed around 630 a.m. Eastern made it. Peter's here safely. That's the most important thing. Yes. But yeah, we're here. We're here and enjoy ourselves. How are you doing? Good. Got in early

morning as well. I showed you my setup last night at a way too nice of an event that I was not supposed to be. My wife certainly was supposed to be there with how beautiful she looked. Kaelin obviously gets celebrated. There's some ex-royals at this thing. The commissioners at this thing. There's a lot of money being raised for Project Healthy Mind, which is obviously helping folks get mental health assistance easier, and there's a lot of money committed to it. So it was a cool event to be a part of. I'm watching game on iPhone, on my wife's iPhone, on table, okay? Straight out of a commercial, straight out of a movie. Kaylan Ursay also watching, obviously, and Kay Adams. Our entire table there is basically up in the front huddled around.

Carson Daly, his son, behind us, have the game on. Giants, and then they have Islanders penguins on because they're from Long Island, Pittsburgh Penguins beat them. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. And there was certainly, there are certainly some Jastin going on. So I didn't get a chance to hear you call the game and it's entirely. Whenever those four tush pushes are happening in real time, what's your reaction? And have you seen how a lot of the football world has responded on the internet to them running four straight? And how do you feel Siriani feels about all of it? Does he even think about anybody's reaction other than a first down than a touchdown?

No, I think he prides himself on first down. I mean, what was weird is that's the first time I've seen him do it when it was third and about three and a half. And I thought it was like a two for one. Like you knew that, okay, we'll run one of these, get it to like fourth and one, and then we'll run another one. But they just kept going.

I mean, it was, I don't think we're all fans of it, but if it's not going to be outlawed, can you blame them? I mean, it works. By the way, how come, How come other teams can't copy this and mimic it? It's bizarre how Philly seems to be the only one that can run a shot. Yeah, because on the other team get the flag for a cheat.

I can tell you the rule here. Yeah. Hold on now. I can tell you the rule, because we got a tutorial in our Wednesday meeting from the league about this being emphasized with the guards jumping early. And they said, if you go. go frame by frame in a replay and you can see a guard jumping, that's not what they're looking for. They said you have to look at real time. Does it look like the guards are moving?

Run it in real time and see if you think it looks like, you know, you could find, you know, the tackles a lot of time. That's real time. That's real time. Right there. False star. To find real time right there. Because these eyes and realize, real lies. And that's real time. brother and it's uh no i understand what you're saying and this also goes back bro bro we're talking about the only good moment for the eagles all night like i know you're i know i know i know the story giant is not push push it's holy shit like i mean we knew jackson dart and scataboo would be you know story but bro they they they help the defense get better all of a sudden Brian DeBalves, a great coach.

The concession team did a better job. Parking out front did a better job. This dude affected everybody. I was leaving. Al and I were walking out with everybody, and we walked by a couple of these older ushers that are in the area where the booth was. And I said, hey, man, how long have you been here doing this job?

And he's like 40 years. I was like, what was the last time? Because I don't get here a lot. What was the last time the Giants? had a home game with this kind of juice, this kind of vibe. And he said, honestly, Gable's first year, they made the playoffs. He goes, but I haven't seen or felt that in decades. Think about that.

And that's a guy that's at every game. And I said it during the broadcast, sometimes we get caught up in quarterbacks and the exos and you can make this throw. And this is an example of a guy impacting the entire franchise because of his belief. You can call it the it factor. You can call it confidence, clearly making quick decisions, very well prepared. But he's got some just, he's got an aura around him, scataboo doing backflips after he scores. I mean, these guys have gone from like nobody wants to watch him to now, I don't know about you. I want to watch the Giants next week.

And they're up 14 to 3. three on the Saints last week, and they had five straight turnovers. This team could very easily be three and oh with this combination of Dart and Skattaboo. So a lot of fun. And then for Philly, it's like, holy cow, now what? I mean, they already felt the sky was falling before this game. And now, you know, you lose this one. You know, you're still four and two, but, you know, their fan-based, poor, that's a tough

night for that city. Moose to the Dodgers to clench the, you know, the NLCS for L.A. then lose this game 3417 that's got to be one of the darkest nights for Philly in a long time Yeah it's not just Philly that lost last night It was also the gomblers Tone what's the stat now on over

6 point favorites or over 7 point favorites now on the season Okay so the stat for Let's start with over 60% against the spread Is now 13 and 31 okay Now favorites have lost outright in the last 4 primetime games the Rams lost They were eight and a half point favorites. The Bills lost.

They were eight point favorites. The Eagles lost a seven and a half point favorite. Those were all home teams as well. Chiefs also lost on the road minus three and a half in Jacksonville. Dogs are now 13 and six against the spread in night games this season. Wow. Herbie, we're losing. The public is losing.

And I happen to be with them. It feels like on a very regular basis because we're trying to learn what teams are. That Eagles team, what are they? I know the story is the giant. I think they're, I agree. I think they're, you know, last year they're two and two, everybody wanted to fire Kellan Moore. Obviously, they found their way. This is a team that's got a ton of injuries.

You know, this is a team that lost 10 players off that defense that played in the Super Bowl a year ago. They're just new pieces. They don't have, they're not healthy, the offensive line. I was talking to KP, their offense coordinator. He's like, you know, we have a practice all 11 together all year since camp because we've had injuries. We've got guys recovering from surgeries. it's just a reality of where they are right now. Can they put it together? Absolutely.

Are they being tested? Absolutely. But they got to get healthy and they got to get their swagger back because right now it's they're offensively, they're searching for an identity, they're searching for consistency. And I think they're four and two, man. I mean, they're, but they got to get their offense to find an identity and a rhythm and consistency. because right now they're in search mode but I think it's a combination of they're not the team that they were in February

when they blew the Chiefs out they're got a lot of new pieces and they're trying to find it but there's enough obvious superstars on that roster to think that they're going to get it going but right now they're in search mode you know that that's where they are

after six games I believe in Siriani being able to get everybody getting in the right direction he's obviously proven that he's a Super Bowl champion head coach they're the reigning Super Bowl champs currently. But it feels like a different vibe in that locker room. Hopefully they're able to make it happen. You talk about Kelly Moe, they wanted him to be fired last year.

Nick Siriani was getting it like basically until like week 13. Yeah. Week 14, they wanted him fired. I mean, that comes with the job. This year just does, it feels a little different. Hopefully they're able to figure it out. Connor has a question for you about a team that I think you at one point had season tickets for, I think. Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, Kirk, Pat mentioned it. you were the former president of Ohio with AJ, and so I assume you still have your finger on the pulse just because you were such a great president for those people. But Joey Flacco going to Cincinnati, kind of becoming Ohio's new son, Cleveland to Sinty, hopefully trying to save the Bengals season until Joe Burrow gets back. How do you think this is going to go this weekend?

I think a lot of people, you know, looking from the outside in, are saying like, oh, Joey Flack already beat the Packers with the bronze. now he's going to go to the Bengals and they're going to beat the Packers again. But then when you look at some stats, he's like the worst quarterback in the league when he doesn't have time and the Bengals are the worst offensive line in football

by a wide margin. How do you see this going? Do you think this will help Sinci kind of get back on track and kind of be able to hold on until Burrow gets back and save their season? Or do you think this might just be another failed attempt and Jake Browning was probably just going to be the same exact thing as

what this is going to be? no kind of you know when you have a quarterback that doesn't move around now it comes down to how well can you run the football and how well can you protect and he's only as good as they give him the opportunity to we know what he can do yeah it's very obvious what he can do even at his age but are they going to help him is the line going to is the line going to allow their running game which has been non-existent are they going to be able to run the football and is we know the weapons on the outside but Jamar Chase is frustrated because it's been hard for Jake Browning to be able to get the ball to him. So I like the idea of it. I like the idea of shaking it up, going to a veteran guy. But I think it's really more about how is the defense playing, how's the running game doing, how is the offensive line in general playing. We have them next Thursday night with tone. Pittsburgh comes to Cincinnati.

Wow. We'll see how I'm anxious to see how. Rogers flag in prime time. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What year is it? Rogers Flack. Oh, it's back.

That's all I heard. Who cares what year it is? I know it was a good one. Hell yeah. And it is all the way back. Herbie, this weekend, we're out here in Oregon. Okay? We're out here in Oregon.

They feel, they feel like the most all-in team? I don't know. I guess there's other teams that are very much all-in. But whenever you talk about just like sports, investment, you name it. Oregon comes to the top of the mind immediately because it's always been this way. The Phil Knight effect, the Nike effect at Oregon, before NIL

was real. Lockers were better than everything, uniforms were better than everything, Jersey, swag, you name it. They had it better than everything, and that was just like a part of being a part of the team. Now that they're able to really benefit off it even more, they're building a brand new building just to build a brand new building out of you. Just to do it.

And it's like they already have new buildings, and they're building new ones. There was a crane outside on my way in here. Crain obviously means building up a city. You go to a city, you see a lot of cranes. That means shit's going very well in that city. That's what that means. Tampa with Brady. They're trying to... Boom. When you see cranes, that is a good thing for city.

Cities are doing well whenever you see cranes. Right out here, you see cranes, and then you see go ducks all over these cranes. They're like 100 feet tall, 200 feet. It's like all in on Oregon sports. It's always, like, special it feels like to come out here and do a game.

my third one, I think, out here. The morning start, the fans, Pacific Northwest fans, I think in general, a little bit more hooligan-y, like soccer fans, but they show up in a big way. It's a special out here, Kirk. It really does. It really does. Well, I love, I'm with you, and I love, I've always loved coming out to Eugene. When we first came out here, when Chip Kelly was here, I thought, you know, Eugene, Oregon, how the heck are we going to get there? And then when we got here, we had game day, and we're on, you know, live at 6 a.m. local. And I didn't know what to expect. It's dark out. And as far as you could see, were people out there.

And I don't know, 10 or 15,000 people at 6 in the morning, kind of like what Cal was like last year. It always blows me away when we go on the West Coast and we get these huge crowds for college game day. And it'll be that way tomorrow. Shout out to Chip Kelly and Phil Knight and what they created initially, Mike Bellotti. Because Oregon, I mean, where you're sitting right now, Pat, they are a national brand. like it used to just be USC on the West Coast was a national brand Oregon and their style of play not just the uniforms the style of play the aggressive nature that they created Dan Lanning I think is taking it even to

another level the the commitment to the to the program I was just over at the softball stadium that you know Rob Mullins their AD the commitment to everything they do here is first class so I'm I love it anytime I hear Eugene Oregon I'm I know it's a long haul but I'm fired up to always come out here I will ask you this, because I think that the one guy that has a real dilemma on his hands this weekend is none other than Pat McAfee. Because he's got his home squad. He's got his home squad wearing in their Adidas, really bad uniform. Really bad uniform.

They're making a push, it's hideous. And while I'm at it, while I'm at it, the Miami uniform is hideous as well. It is gorgeous, gorgeous green. Could not be any worse. Adidas There you know. Let him know, Kirk. Let him know.

It's hideous. Don't like it. I don't like what you're doing. I love it. This guy's stick. This guy's Sting. They're a disgrace.

They need to go back. Mute him. New his, Mike. Will you hold on a second? Indiana is a crap. There are you can't say. It's unbelievable. You got it like the cleats though, right?

You love the cleats. If you're comparing it. Hold on, AJ, don't gas them up anymore. We don't need to continue doing it. Hey, wait a second. Wait a second. So the dilemma is Pat's got his home team. Go Hoosiers, I, you got Indiana against your guy, Dan Lannick. You got a real, real, real problem on your hands, my friend.

Yeah, certainly not a desirable position for anybody to be in. But what you just did to Adidas that is currently investing. a lot of money in American football. Okay, welcome to the sport, was maybe partially correct. Some of their stuff is ass. It's awful. But they got some... Adidas superstores are unbelievable.

They're investing in football. We assume it's only going to get better. The cleats, just like when Under Armour started, click-clack, right, AJ? Click-clacking. We're click-clacking all right? We were. You remember that? AJ was looking at cameras. Wide lens, fish. He was going like this. He was going. Click-clack, dude.

Click flag, and then you go, yo, click clap, that was what AJ was doing. Then look where they've come. Look where they come. Adidas, getting into football, American football in a big way. I think it's only a road, hopefully, up. But there is. I don't mind them getting involved, but just the uniforms, they just need to be redone. They look terrible.

It's just a bad look. Their high quality fit well. Thank you, Gubbs. Gump's the soccer fan. You love the years. You stop it. gump don't he just gave liverpool they just gave liverpool a billion dollars for 10 years brother odida's is good one of me it's shorted shirt gump that's their uniform all right herby we appreciate you're the hell out of you brother you're the man ladies of general

kirk herb sure you thank you pat here you go here you go real quick yes please yeah yeah geez Hey, hey, hey, hey, he knows, he knows the bark. I think we did hear him, breathing into the phone earlier. What up, dude? You might want to change that bandana, Kirk. Yeah, Kirk, you might want to take that bandana. North Carolina women's, North Carolina women's lacrosse. Never mind.

Different sport, different sports, smart, smart, smart, North Carolina, great colors, great colors, special on that blonde hair, peaty. All right, we appreciate you guys, enjoy yourself, ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Carb Street. Yeah, yeah. all right that was fun ladies and gentlemen from a man and his dog that have captivated the world to a goat uh j give me about 45 seconds here please for sure guys did anyone have any idea that kirk was going to go on an anti adidas uniform rant has he ever has he ever like given us not has he ever said anything like that before no i didn't know he was so so strong he wasn't exactly wrong no but he also it kind of stuck it was really adidas slander but then he kind of tried to say well

knows the uniforms themselves that just don't look great. So I don't know if he loves the makeup of the Indiana uniform, of the Miami uniform, or if he's really just more of a, I don't want to see Adidas on a football fan. It is weird when you see a Nike team go to Adidas though. Miami was, weren't they Nike

and Jordan for a while? Yeah, when they won a national championship. And then when they, Adidas is throwing some cash at people. And Dorsey was rocking the check. Yeah, he was. Of course, that's what they were. I mean, I know what's up comment? Well, and that's the biggest thing. like there's a clear Gatorade power rate when it comes

to uniforms and stuff and that is Nike in Under Armour and Adidas and all that stuff but the check marks a checkmark baby that's why Oregon sent Pat 200 things in a box. The Nike swoosh Pat who you over there with I know you was a Nike guy a guy who's teams

were Nike guys for a long long time coach Nick Sabin coach you like Nike or Adidas what's your thought you got any idea on that right now anybody anybody we like anybody we like anybody right We're like anybody who pays the most. That's how everybody to decide what they're going to wear. That's a goat. But, you know, I got a little, you know, Herb Street, Ohio State.

They've been wearing the same uniform. They have exactly the same uniforms when I coached there in 1980. Ever heard of commission coach? And he's complaining about Indiana. I mean, the same Buckeye leaves, the same helmet, the same everything. Same Nike. Same Nike. In San State, Michigan, they're all iconic, which I think a lot of people would say, well, we don't do any creativity on the jerseys, then we're just not, we're iconic, we're a brand, we're a brand.

You guys were, I assume, a part of the first rollout of sponsorship teams, like, because I remember when I was at West Virginia, we got, like, upgraded in our Nike deal. I remember that was a big deal. We won the Sugar Bowl, my freshman year, and then they were like, congratulations, you've been upgraded in your Nike deal, and it was evident, like our new uniforms were much better. and obviously maxed out all the time. Were you guys, you were in the middle of that type of shit during that era of happening, and now Adidas is coming in in a huge way, which I think is good for the sport, obviously. No question, I think it's good for the sport. But we were a part of that.

But, you know, the part of that that I experienced the most, because I was one of these iconic guys. I never wanted to change his uniform because I always felt the fans had an expectation of what they expected to see. And it was kind of a traditional thing. So I never wanted to change a uniform. I never wanted to be responsible for that. But the one thing that when we upgraded, Nike gives you a lot of product as a coach.

I never saw any of it. What? Everybody in West Virginia is wearing Miss Terry's Nike stuff all over the damn place, and I never... In all those years, I never got any stuff. What was the website, AJ, that guys with Nike deals will go to? I forget what... Oh, no, you say that I forget it, yeah.

I was an Underarmie guy early on. I don't remember, actually. Did you guys have the website? Did Under Arm have one of these? So guys that would get Nike deals, they'd get like, let's say, $10,000 in merch, would be like a Nike deal. You wouldn't get any money, but you get $10,000 in merch, and then you could log on to their website, and you would have, like, back end to access the shit. And I think Koh-Han was with them as well at that time.

So you could get, like, golf, Koh-Han, and some Nike stuff. I had, like, a $1,400 deal or something. That thing was gone before I got the pair of golf clubs. You know what I mean? That thing was out of there with my deal. But that partnership in sports, Nike, now Adidas coming into, is paramount for everything. And that leads to my next question about this place. Whenever you see what Dan Lannning has been able to build here, obviously everybody talks about Phil Knight.

I assume there's other people with money as well because every sport out here is seemingly good. Baseball team. I just drove by 93 draft picks in the MLB, 39 MLB players. I think there's national championships galore. They call this place, what, track ton or something like that? Or Fast City. I forget what you can't? Tracktown, USA.

Tracktown USA. is what they call it because of the amount of Olympians that come through their track program. They hosted the Olympic trials out here. Their football team, obviously incredible. I think there's a volleyball team. Everything out here is good because they're financing it and they want it to be good. That's a special thing to be out here. And what has your thoughts been since coming out here and experiencing it?

Oh, I love this place. You know, I think it's a beautiful place. But I think you have to have a tremendous amount of respect for what they've been able to accomplish here. Because I remember, I don't know how many years ago before, you know, Chip Kelly and that, whole crew came here, they, Mike Bellotti, they weren't really that good. They were good in track. They were good in some other sports, but they have, you know, established a tremendous tradition in terms of their ability to be successful in football, which is, I think, you know, the number one sport that people are going to watch. Hell yeah. And where they're going to kind of,

you know, create their image of what the place is like. And the image of this place, because of Nike because the success that they've had is, you know, it's as good as any place in the country. Absolutely. You love to see the ducks on primetime television, mostly because their uniforms are going to be awesome, but also their style of play. Dan Lannning has an intensity about him and aura about him and his team seemingly follows suit. Let's talk about Signetti's team, okay? Kurt Signetti, former coacher alongside you, and last year you had a great quote to him.

What I didn't teach you is talking all that damn shit that you talk. He's pretty vocal. He's from Pittsburgh and West Virginia. I think that's where he learned that. I think from that particular background, obviously football family, football guy long haul, getting an opportunity at Indiana now and having money behind him. Two seasons, having a lot of success, had to rebuild this year. Do you think this team in this culture has taken his identity,

and how do you think they will be able to handle Ottsin this stadium, which people talk about being one of the best and loudest places in the entire country? Well, first of all, having both of these guys on staff at some point in time in their career, these two guys are probably as different personality-wise as anybody could ever be. Yes. I mean, it's polar. It's polar opposite.

But I think the point is, is there's more than one way to skin a cat, so you can be very different in a lot of ways and still be successful as long as you believe in the process and the faith that you have and, you know, your principles and values in terms of, you know, Kirk Signetti has always been an offensive guy, very serious about learning football and trying to be the best at it, but not always his personality has grown in terms of his identity. And Dan Lanning has always been a positive, upbeat, defensive guy, but full of energy, enthusiasm, excitement, and I think it's contagious on everybody else. So these two guys are so different.

But I do think Kirkson Elliott has done a really good job as a head coach. You know, these two guys' record is very similar, you know, as head coaches in terms of where they've been. And probably doing it in a completely different style. Definitely. But both guys very successful in what they've done. And I think if you were to ask Signetti, which everybody brings up about landing, is he had to make that program down there in Indiana. Like he had to create the football program, basically. They had a football team.

They did not have a football program. basketball program they had a basketball team and by program I mean they had donors boosters events expectations everything like that even though they hadn't had it for a long time that was kind of expected football down there was just something to happen on Saturdays every once in their stadium like if you want to come hang out with like a hundred to 200 other people you can come watch the Hoosiers he's had to make that a place is it sustainable what he's doing every year turn over the roster being able to find the right guys Fernando Mendoza is

quarterback out of Cal obviously had a lot of the same cuts as Kid Canada's little brother. Roark. Nathan Roark. He played a lot of football, had success. He was at Cal obviously different than James Madison, but whenever you have that early success in grind that feels like who Signetti wants,

but Mendoza is taking his team to another level. And then he might be the first overall pick. Then he's going to have to do it again and do it again. Sig feels like a guy that can do that, or how sustainable is everything like that? Well, I think when you're having that many changes on your roster every year, you know, you have to do a fantastic

job of evaluation, which, you know, Kurt Signetti has done that so far. I don't think you could change a program as quickly as he has Indiana, especially one that doesn't have a tradition of success and culture as a football program, as you mentioned, without transfer portal. Need it to upstart it, I think. Yeah. You need to like shift gears. We need new players, quick players. We need to be able to do this quickly. And he brought a bunch of players from his old school that knew his culture and how he wanted to do it and got a quarterback in there that could make some plays. Now he has an even better quarterback in my opinion. So I do think it's sustainable, but I also think there's a lot of risk involved when you have that much change

every year on your roster. You know, I was always able to be in a position where you could develop players and you knew what was coming and, you know, they bought into the culture and, you know, the older guys influenced the younger guys and, you know, it just kept on and on and on. So you had this sort of build-in tradition when it came to what the expectations were. But when you bring new players in and you have that many every year, that's a more difficult challenge, I think. Chris Ballard said it once whenever he was trying to develop the Indianapolis Colts, and he has his best team right now, and I'm happy for him getting a chance to experience a little happiness as a general manager. He said, you have to establish the culture before you bring in the free agents.

Because if you bring in the free agents, then they're the one setting your culture. Now, in college football, though, teams and fans don't have a lot of patience. So using the transfer portal to have early success while building your culture through recruiting or maybe younger transfer portal stuff is certainly what you have to do at the same time. I think Indiana is ready to do it. I think Signetti's enjoying his time. I really appreciate what he's done for the Hoosiers. Got a lot of Hoosiers around there.

My wife is a Hoosier. But really, Pat, I think you can do it as long as you do it. front. Like, you know, when I was recruiting players, I always told them, this is our expectation for what we want you to do here. The kind of person we want to be, what your academic responsibility is going to be, what the commitment to being the best football player you can be, all these things up front. And I would say, this place is not for everybody. So don't come here if you don't want to do these things. So you can sort of set the table for the culture with the people that come in. And some of them don't choose you. You know, I used to tell them,

everybody can't play for the Yankees, man. I mean, that's the way it is. So don't come here if this is not what you want to do because it's high. All right, the commitment's got to be high. Anybody can play for the Yankees now, brother. Yeah, I'm sorry they got beat. Thank you, Coach.

I watched them. I did. I watched them, and it was heartbreaking and wrenching to watch. 25 runs in two games. How about how Aaron Judge did, too? Aaron Judge played so good. And then Vladdy's dancing on your guys' grave. Damiena.

D. Yankees, Lou. Broken English, broken English, two guys, broken English just burying the Yang. In Jeter's face. Duh! Yankies Lou! I mean, what a moment. That was tough. Ty was really riding the wave.

He came in the next day, obviously had drank an entire bottle of Jack Daniels after that loss. He was really going through it. He was really going through it, but now he says he's moving on. And what do you say, Ty? It's going to be the same shit next year. We're going to lose, and this is what the Yankees are now. That's what he said in a moment. I don't know if he's a little hungover or still in despair.

Do you still feel that way about the Yankees right now? Yeah, that's pretty spot on. There's about four to five glaring holes that definitely need to be changed that will not be changed. It'll kind of be, hey, run this thing back next year, and guess what? My dumb ass will be there ready, you know, opening day with all my Yankees shit on, screaming, excited for another season. and so will he so will he

yeah but what if you're the organization why change if you have fans that are loyal as you are that's coming back no matter what you're saying it's his fault I've been calling for change AJ what's your question for coach yeah coach we talked about Ohio State

and their sweet Nike deal earlier they look great the nice traditional iconic uniforms that we all we all know and love and obviously you coached on the staff there years ago but they're traveling to Illinois take on Bealam on the boys another top 25 matchup on the road. Julian, saying the young QB at Ohio State.

What do you think, I guess, what do you want to see if you were Ryan Day right now? What do you want to see from your Ohio State team? We know we want to win. But what are you going to work on, I guess, on the road, another big test? Well, I think they've been one of the most consistent teams so far this season. I mean, look at their defense. They've only given up, what, 25 points for the whole season, and been dominant. And they played two really good teams, Texas and Washington,

and dominated both those games. And they've talked about Julie and Sand. Nobody in the country is completing 80% of his passes but him. And I know he's got some good receivers, but they've been able to run the ball. The offensive line has played pretty well. So I think the emphasis for Ryan Day has got to be focus on improvement and consistency and performance so we don't have ups and downs during this season. And I don't think the Big Ten is really that deep.

I think Illinois does have a pretty decent team. But it's not like the SEC where you've got eight or nine teams that can beat you. There might be three or four teams in a Big Ten that can beat you. Oh, this is him sending seeds. We know. Yeah. Big Ten's expanded now, Coach. Big Ten's expanded now, Coach.

We let some people in, Coach. The Big Ten's deeper now. Deeper by what? I got some pre-time teams in there now. Penn State. I mean, tell me the good teams. Maybe Michigan. I mean, USC's all right, aren't they?

Well, we'll see tomorrow. Yeah, you're right. You're right. They're all right. But all right is not really what I'm talking about. We can only play who we play. Do you think USC is going to beat Ohio State? You think that would be a game if they played?

Really. I sure hope not. No, but you have Oregon, Indiana, legit, so far. And we'll see how legit Indiana is probably tomorrow. I mean, Illinois got beat like a red-headed stepchild. you know, down in Indiana, so are they legit? I mean, come on. Ohio State's national champion. They beat Texas.

Ohio State's great. SEC, Texas, beat the hell out of it. He's just talking about the death. 14-7. Yeah, beat the hell out of them. And Texas is not what everybody thought Texas would be. Well, the SEC loses. But A&M is pretty good.

Georgia's pretty good. O'Miss is pretty good. Alabama's got a chance. Missouri's got a chance. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of good teams. Tennessee's pretty good. Missouri?

Chance? What do we talk? This is the greatest. Hey, this can happen all day if we wanted to, which is why it is so spectacular that he is here. That whole Tennessee, Ohio State game last year at the playoffs, just added so much for me to lock in about North football. You know, just like, hey, maybe we can't on the roster have guys run 4-2 at every position. Like you can in the South, whenever it's 65, 70 degrees, maybe 90 degrees. Every single day, you need some SUVs up there, you know. certain different style of teams. Where's the game happening to?

Because I understand that culture and environments certainly matter in college football with 18 and 22-year-olds. That's why I think the home field advantage in the playoffs, whoever has it, I think, is going to inevitably end up winning the games, I think, personally. You know, I don't think there's any question about that. But, you know, one thing I would like to mention here is I do think the culture in college football right now with name image and likeness, paying players, money, has actually maybe hurt the SEC a little bit and help the schools up north. Okay. Because if you're making your decision about money and somebody's going to pay you more to go to Ohio State or Michigan or wherever it is,

and I'm not complaining about that, that's the way it is, then these people are going to be more willing to move. Kids are not growing up wanting to go to Alabama, wanting to go to Georgia, wanting to go to Florida, wanting to go to Texas. They want to go wherever who's going to pay them the most money. So I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I'm just saying that culture has changed, which I think has made the regional advantage that the Southeastern Conference had for years is no longer an advantage.

I'm excited to see how it all pans out. You know, because we're at a 12-team playoff right now. We're starting with 12-con, down to 1. They're already thinking about expanding it, making it bigger. And it's like how many teams are for real each year anyways, you know, whenever you really think. In the NFL, we have this conversation. What is it? They say like six, seven teams in the NFL are actually built to win a Super Bowl. Even winning teams right now are looking at their teams and saying, nah, I don't know if we'll be able to win the big one. College has that type

of thing too, right? I mean, that's kind of something. I assume at Alabama, you knew if your team was a national championship team throughout the season or not? I knew if we had a chance, yes. Yes, with the way they were playing during the season, not looking at how they could be, right? Right, exactly. And what does the buy-in and commitment? and passion on the team to sustain whatever they were capable of. Because I think that's a big thing now, too. I mean, these kids are not really as passionate. Maybe they're not as hungry because they got all this noise all the time.

You know, I'm going to get into Porto at the end of the year. I'm not playing enough. What's my role on the team? So what's the commitment to the team and the commitment of the player to the team relative to what it normally was like when we played? Yeah, I mean, we played different errors, definitely. I mean, I wore helmets and stuff. You had helmets?

Absolutely. But we just barely had face masks. I can imagine their pieces of that together. You talk about a team and chemistry and getting along and the passion for a brand. I think we're really separating the dogs from not right now. I think the dogs are getting separated from the pretenders. Pretenders are going to be able to make a lot of money, though, in college ball, which is good for them. But the dogs are the one to everybody's trying to find to make their NFL team.

I think we would all say Jalen Hertz, absolute. dog but now we got some stuff going on in Philadelphia. Connor has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, coach loved everything you said, but I believe Missouri. I've seen people on the internet calling Drinkowitz Dumkowitz. So I mean, look, just slowly roll on there, okay?

Internet people don't know. Tell them. Tell them, internet people don't know, coach. Don't let him say that about Drinkwitz. I don't know. Okay, I'm just letting you know. Who put that out there? The guy that's wearing, you know, running around his underwear and is living in

his mother's basement? I don't live in my mom's basement, coach. Okay. What's the source? Bono Gras 69. Downcom. Yeah. Indianapolis, actually.

He's living pretty good. Sorry. Yes, all right. So I'm just letting you know what people are saying about the entire SEC. But looking at the Eagles game last night, and Pat just mentioned it. There seems to be kind of like drama between their superstars. Jalen Hertz, Sequin, and A.J.

Brian allegedly had a conversation about, you know, everything, and then A.J. Brown said, like, no, I wasn't there for that. And then I guess he just tweeted, actually, yeah, right here, just to clear this up, this wasn't a meeting or a sit down. I said, I don't recall, because it got painted like there was tension, and so, I assume, Sequin, had to step in. That's not true. I was walking to my car, saw them, and stopped to talk, nothing more.

So, AJ Brown basically said hello to Jalen Hertz, and they all made it seem like they had an hour-long conversation. Kind of weird when it comes to culture. And then you look at the chiefs, and I assume this might have been something you'd dealt with. Chris Jones, their highest paid defensive player, basically loaves at the end of the game, which, you know, almost allows, basically allows Trevor Lawrence to score a touchdown right here. You know, this was huge earlier in the week. He really is just standing, walking. You know, maybe he makes a play. Maybe he doesn't, but regardless, the effort isn't there. Is there a culture

problem with some of these teams? I mean, the Chiefs and the Eagles are kind of the last two teams you would assume to have culture problems, but all the writing on the wall says that they kind of do. Is this something that needs to be, you know, fixed? Does Andy Reed and Siriani, do they go to their star players? Like, how would you handle that in college? And what do you think they're doing this week to try and figure that out? Well, you know, you guys have heard me talk about the fact that it's much more difficult to deal with success than it is failure. You know, when people get humiliated, they usually respond pretty well.

But, you know, when you have success, a lot of people get lots of attention. people want more attention, being self-absorbed. How does this affect me? There's only one ball out there, so how do you distribute it to the runner who wants it, the receiver who wants it, the quarterback who wants to throw it? So these individual things, you can call it, disease of me, whatever you want to call it, is how does everything affect me, becomes a part of a problem on a successful team, probably much greater than it does on a team that's struggling.

So both of these teams that you're talking about has had a lot of success. And to be able to sustain that and keep the level of performance high, not have people get satisfied with where they are. Because when you're satisfied, you're no longer hungry. So does that affect your attitude, your performance, your effort, all the things that you're talking about? And I think that's the most challenging thing for coaches. You know, I talked to Siriana about this in the summertime. I've talked to Jane L. Hertz a couple times, you know, about it.

And, you know, it's a challenge. It's a real challenge. You know, people just have a hard time dealing with success. In our society, you know, we think that if we have success, we're supposed to be able to rest on our laurels. And that doesn't happen. You know, I call that relief syndrome. And so, but anyway, that's the most challenging. thing for us as human beings, not just for football teams and football players, but for us as

human beings. That when we have success, can we sustain it? Rat poison. Rat poison is awful. It's real, too. It's very real. Just as a human that has seen and thought about some of the workouts that I did as an 18-year-old with no money, really hungry, and then now as an adult, like the mindset is just so much different whenever things are good. You know, they talk about what's the quote we always bring up about boxers, it's hard to want to wake up and get punch in the face when you wake up on sat and sheets or something like that? That happens whenever it comes to clout and attention and money and shit like that. It's not just satin sheets. It's everything else that kind of comes alongside of it. Do you think these two teams have enough veteran leadership to be able to correct

course? And do you still think with how much time is left, this might be a good thing for their story in the end because you can certainly build off this. Can you not build bonds? Yeah, and I think that you know, you kind of lose respect for what it takes to win. lose respect for winning however you want to say it. But when you don't have success and you have a couple losses, then people start to respond in a different way. And it kind of brings people together. So I do think they have the talent on their team. And I do think these teams have a chance to recover and respond. All right. Well, I appreciate hearing that. I think their fans will as well. And I don't know if you saw the Scorsese shit happening while you were talking.

Wow. We saw. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this happened right here in front of your eyes. Yeah, you see that zoom out right there, the coach? You see that? You see that? That's left hand. That's not strong. He's blown away. Yeah. Strong side, left side. This is not strong side.

You know what I mean? This is. Yeah, that is not, that is not, yeah, I felt pretty good about it. But you, obviously, given such incredible takes, we've got to make sure we have you in there. Your leadership discussion and how you view teams and what they need to do and what they need to accomplish is second to none. And we can't reiterate this fact enough.

We're so lucky we get a chance to catch up with you every single week. Tone has the last question for you. you, but you need to know all this shit that spills out of your mouth, we are listening, right, AJ? Absolutely. Who doesn't? I think everybody listens to this. No matter what you can say, we're taking notes all the time. Yeah, you're coaching society right now. So any of this, any of this stuff, me mostly, but also society as a whole, and we're grateful for it. Go ahead, tone. Yeah, coach, the last time Indiana was in this situation, the regular season was last year going into the shoe at Ohio State, and Signetti talked about how they were not prepared for the noise.

that he hated the silent count. He was never going to do the silent count again. I know you have had times where you said that you've hated the silent count. Over years and going into those big SEC stadiums with a ton of noise, what have you found that's worked best? And what do you think Signetti's going to do in Otson maybe differently than what he did last year at Ohio State? Yeah, well, you know, the problem with the noise and being in the gun is if you're under center, you can still use a snap count

and people can hear the offensive line. When you're in the gun, it becomes a more challenging. So most people try to go on the clap, but sometimes you can't hear the clap, so what do you do? Now you can go on the leg lift, which means the center has to keep his head between his legs to snap the ball and can't see who he's supposed to block, or if the defense stems, he can't do that.

So there is a definite disadvantage no matter what you do, and if you go on the silent, you know, what you're talking about. The guard taps the guy and then the guy snaps the ball. I mean, now the offensive alignment have to keep their eye on the ball to see when the ball moves or you're going to have lots of penalties. And these penalties are drive stoppers

because they put you behind them down a distance. And when you're playing against a good defensive team, you know, that's a huge problem. So I don't know what the solution is. I just hated to go on the silent. I hated that. So we tried to clap whenever we could. You know, I told you guys,

You know, we had to have a clap session with Bryce Young because he didn't clap very loud so that he clapped louder. What made a good clap? You got to hit the good palm. You got to hit the palm right. You got to hit the palm right. You got a splash. Do you talk to somebody about that?

You got a good one. Yeah. Who's the expert? Who's the clapping? I got a buddy's clap expert, but we're talking about different, you know. Johnny Sins maybe, yeah. Yeah, he was a dirt. He could be a clap expert.

He was a dirty. That's Coach laughing. But, yeah, Coach, you know what we're talking about. You shouldn't, though. On that note, so we're going, who's the clap expert? Did you bring in the America's Got Talent, clap guy? Like, the most decibel clap guy? No, we just took the quarterback coach was responsible.

And if he didn't get it fixed, he was going to get his ass chewed out and he knew it. So he had to do. Hey, you need to go watch some YouTube videos on, I'll make this a big splash and clap. Okay, we need that. Are you a left-handed clapper or right-hand clapper? righty you're going right hand over top yeah every once in a while if you just want to change it up just to look different because i think a majority of people are right-handed clappers if you just toss that some bitch backwards and you go left yeah i'm left for sure

i'm left naturally yeah yeah right are you really yeah i'm right hand but i use my fork in my left hand too and cut with my right well yeah well yeah definitely you definitely stick with the right i'm clapping right here i'm clapping left hand over top i think you look more sophisticated left to right, I think. I'm not the way you're doing it like a baboon. Yeah, you look like a bad boon. My daughter would be like banana.

But you know, one thing that's going to be important in these games, this game to me, is if Indiana can't get the snap count right and they get behind in the sticks, that's going to hurt them. Because they're a huge run the ball, advantage throw, RPO team. And it forces you,

to play a lighter box on defense. In other words, playing split-safety coverages are much better when you plan that kind of team. When you play middle-of-the-field coverage, you play right into their hands. Illinois play middle-of-the-field coverage, they got shellacked. If you watch other teams that play them like Iowa,

play split-safeties, and they struggle a little bit more because it forces them to run the ball. Well, if you get behind the sticks, then that running-the-ball stuff doesn't work so well because you stay behind the sticks. Does that make any sense? Absolutely.

And I know how my boy Dan Lannning will try to play him, so they're going to have a challenge from that standpoint if they can stop the run with a lighter box. And crowd noise is going to help as we just chitch out about, let alone in the silent count, but also getting off on the ball. And also, you know, maybe firing up the defense a little bit to go eat a little bit. We've seen Oregon have a huge win against Penn State,

which obviously none of us know what Penn State is, especially after they lose to UCLA. But we learn a lot about Indiana after this weekend, I think, on whether or not Signetti's back and for real. I can't thank you enough for joining us. brother okay I enjoyed it thanks guys appreciate this did you enjoy these guys are great I love the football talk what about leadership talk are you like leadership we can do that you do it every week yeah what about uniform talk you like uniform talk

adidas uniforms we like them I'm a traditionalist well you love Ohio State that's why you like Ohio State uniform yeah there you go coach and Alabama's uniforms never change I agree man a lot of people say that's because you guys aren't creative you don't want to make know why that's okay you can be non-creative and still win and I think you did I was just talking shit I was not telling the truth there I was talking a friend ladies and gentlemen the greatest of all time

next stage you know one thing that was that the defense if you're on the let's say you're at home and you're playing defense it can affect your defense in a negative way the crazy like say third down like there's a lot of communication going on with defense you got to talk look back to your safety that's why you have to make sure all your hand signals are down pat everything like you gotta give little little fist whatever your coverage are you got to all your checks that you normally would hear on the road you know when you're at home defensively i think that's something people

never talk about it can affect the defense you better if you're changing the front or you're trying to get your d-line hey i'm going from this guy to a shade to a three technique whatever over under you got to walk up and get up in there and pat him on the back and let him know like hey this is what we're doing for you was it harder in college to do that home for sure i was I'm going to say. For sure, because especially third down, they ring the bell, boom, boom. It brings the bell, and then it's so loud, which is great for you as a defense, but at the same time, just make sure your communication is down.

Good for the edges. It's good for the D-line. Yeah, Pat, I don't know if you're back or not. Pat, you've been, I'm not going to lie, that slow pan in to Coach Saban when he was talking. That's what wins Emmys right there. That was beautiful. Hey, I thought about just completely, you know what we do when Tones started going back in the day on his little rants. You remember those, and we would just slowly zoom in and over the shoulder onto his face.

I was starting to do that onto the coach's face, and I'm like, he's giving a real take right now. Don't fuck it. So that was the full conversation that was happening. So I had to stop at a proper proportion where it wasn't making a mockery of, but also letting people know that this is a good diet trap. And we are slowly focusing in on this thing, as everybody should. I love listening to him. I love chatting with him. And getting a chance to experience Alabama with him last week was certainly an honor.

Oregon out here is going to be crazy in the morning. And it's a beautiful time to be alive. We got a lot of stuff we have to do still on this beautiful Friday. AJ, we've got to pick every game. Are you worried about this week's late? Have you even looked at it yet? You know, I like to trust my instincts in the moment and do it real time. I don't really put a whole lot of study into this situation.

I'm real, you know, I'm real. Boys, what are the big games of the weekend? There's a top five bet games. I saw the stat that was on the sheet. Who are they? And what do we need to remember whenever we see that type of shit? Yeah, so we actually made a graphic this morning on the most bet against the spread teams in week six. and this is every team that is getting 60% or more against the spread bets.

And we did this because we talked about the stat earlier in the show. Now that the Eagles lost last night or didn't cover last night, teams that are getting more than 60% are 13 and 31 against the spread on the season. So all of these teams that you see with a percentage in their box are getting more than 60% of the bets this weekend. So they would fall into the category of teams that have not covered so far this season to a clip of 70%, which is massive. Mad dummy, bro.

Damn. Yeah, it is mad dummy, bro, especially with how much the sports folks are beating the hell out of the public. Any games there you like Ty Schmidt that we need to keep an eye on? How about Joey Flack taking on the pack once again? Any other games you're excited about Ty? Yeah, certainly excited for that one. I mean, you mentioned it, you know, I mean,

we have mentioned it, I guess. That Sunday night football game is going to be a real treat. But really, after being boots on the ground last week at the Colts game, like regardless of what Kyler does like I'm kind of in the Colts are a must watch in the four box every single week now their offense is unbelievable their defense is unbelievable and after you know I don't know I feel like this is kind of the point in the season where the cardinals maybe just start to nose dive a little bit like after last week I kind of expect the Colts to have another big time ass beating like they did against the Raiders last week

I hope so brother this the Joneses. I mean, Sheffey said it. Keep it up with the Jones. And that's Daniel Damn Jones and Matt Jones. San Francisco 49ers going Mac Jones. AJ, how do you feel about that decision going forward? And also, Lamar Jackson out. We got Cooper Cush football taking place. Kyla Murray might be out. Jacoby Brissette might be playing for the Arizona Cardinals. Feels like we've been in a little bit of a quarterback carousel and we're certainly continuing to hear early in this NFL season. Yeah, we are. I mean, the Kyler situation always intrigues me how he's going to handle that. Daniel Jones. I mean, I don't think.

enough credit is given to Daniel Jones. So I know we talk about them a lot, but nationally are people giving them credit and saying, hey, you guys are a legit contender right now? Last few days, I've seen a lot of Daniel Jones graphics on TV. Ain't that right, Connor? I've seen them all get up in first. I think they've been talking about them. So if they're both talking about them, which is very abnormal,

we're talking about anything from Indianapolis, small market, the minute-to-minute ratings might drop if you talk about a team in the middle of America. So that is how we should decide every single moment of what we talk about. That has worked for a long time with them. I am not hating on that, but I'm just saying that is why a lot of things don't get mentioned because they're scared literally every 60 seconds they're going to potentially

lose a viewers and then they don't know what's going to happen later. That is literally their mindset though. We can't blame them for that. That is the business of sports media. So smaller market teams, unless you are a dynasty like team like Kansas City, obviously, you've got Patrick Mahomes, you got Travis Kelsey, it's a dynasty. They've won championships for a new team to blossom like this, like the Indianapolis Colts are, from a smaller market than the largest markets in the world, it's going to take a little bit for everybody to want to put you out there. But I've seen a lot of Danny Dime's shit. this week. And I'm pumped for him, man. He has certainly earned it, deserved it, and been through

the ringer con, man. Yeah. And, you know, to add on to that, too, like the stiking clips coming out of him legitimately calling touchdowns before they happened. Like, we ran it yesterday, but that stuff helps too because it's not just, oh, Danny Dimes is awesome, but oh, they have a coach that one has a incredible game day fit and two is fantastic when it comes to calling games. Another thing to watch this weekend, though, with some of these teams, Ravens, I mean, Raiders, in there. I don't know about the Chiefs, but there are teams out there that you should watch that, hey, if they look really bad,

some of these guys might get moved. There's a chance of Max Crosby with the Raiders. They get blown out, or they lose to the Titans. Don't say that. He's going to be so pissed. No, no, no, I know. Max Crosby is a raider, but I also know that is, you know, his best friends possible in, and that's the middle linebacker for the New

England Patriots. And then you look at the Ravens, you know, they've already gotten rid of one, you know, stud, even though he's not all pro and pro, but he's not a superstar, pass, rusher, but Odafe is their best pass rusher, and they got rid of him already. So there are some of these teams, you know, the dolphins, they got a lot

of good players on that team, but they haven't won a lot of games. Like, you never know, but this weekend, especially with what Schefter just said about the trades, a couple teams start to lose, and all of a sudden, hey, some guys might be on the move to great teams again. And then he got Steelers Browns as well. It has been

named Shador Sanders, backup quarterback for Cleveland, Greg. Congrats, you do it. About time. About time. About time. Okay, tone. All right. Yeah, I know Tom one and the Steelers fans want to know who's one, who's two, who's three. Thank you. Zip on the ball. Zappy, third string. quarterback, Dylan Gabriel, will be the start of the third round draft pick for the Browns. Shador Sanders, the fifth round draft pick rookie for the Browns will be QB2. Excited to watch how that plays out. T.J. Watt and that D-Line could feast. Maybe we see a couple guys for the Browns. Who knows what this weekend has in store, but we know it's going to be special. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We're incredibly lucky that we get to talk about.

about sports. We genuinely feel that way. I was on an event last night that I'm not supposed to be at, strictly because I get to talk about sports. And that's because all you. Thank you all so fucking much for allowing us to do this. And tomorrow's game day live from Oregon is going to be bananas. This place is beautiful. They love ball. We'll see you then.

Okay. That's off from that. That's off from that one. Buy a lot. Still think you got it in. You got it pretty solid here. Was the graphic right? Yeah, the graphic was right. I don't like it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we're off. We got to fix this clock.

We brought a new clock that we said was going to be right, like our building. Thunderdome brought this to the ESPN production people. Like, we lost the little clock. We timed it up this morning, but. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the replay. I think it was four or five seconds off on this thing. I didn't see the graphic pop up until the very end. I just want to let the people know that that's on us.

No, no, no. You know that I just watched a other TV. They actually got at the end to you saying, was that graphic right? right before they right before it goes. That's perfect. Okay, okay, so maybe the clock was right then. Maybe the graphic was, oh, we'll have to read.

I think if we include the point ones of the, you know how there's a conversation in the NFL about how there's no like NBA one second, point one, whatever. If we were to include the point ones, I think we're right on the money. Well, I just want to let everybody know here, these people that have been traveling around setting up this

particular show from ESPN production crew, barcodes crew, Billy Weeks, boys, crews here. entire staff. These people have it dialed in. They're very good at what they do. I'm very, very grateful. I mean, I got a PTZ set up here so I can just control the cameras. I'm cutting them on this thing. The amount of wiring them, I'm talking to the back room on this button. I'm talking to the cams here on this particular button. And obviously there's a cough button here. And all the wiring and connections and shit that goes into what we asked them to do, vastly different, obviously, than any other show that I'm cutting it up here. But that

means they've got a wire at all. So we are very appreciative. You guys are very good at what you do. We're very, very grateful and thankful for that. Honestly. Now, on that note, we can't be bringing them a wrong fucking clock. That's on us. We got, we got to get a good clock out here. We got, we got to get a good clock out here for the team, for the team.

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I'm AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat at his desk here in Indianapolis. He's in Eugene, Oregon. We just had coach Sabine on guys. He was very good. Football! Yes, he was. Yes, he was. He was great.

So, wait, Pat, you're actually at Austin Stadium there? That's not the training facility, or where are you? Okay, so Austin Stadium's that way. It's about $180 on that side. If we were to choose that side of it, we would have this stadium, but it didn't have that good of a view because it's just bleachers or seats, basically. So this side, we got a little bit more trees. We got the soccer practice field right here.

The baseball practice facilities over there. I assume they have their buildings around here somewhere. But, yeah, it's everything state of the art and brand new, everything, all the time. And the foliage. Upred at all times, too, aren't the foliage? Look at that foliage, man. Unreal. Yeah, you got, yeah, it is, I mean, let me, let's dance.

Can you imagine trick or treat out there? treats probably beautiful yeah look at that look at that probably is beautiful that's a good angle there shit shit hold on oh yeah dude yeah there it is yes I don't work oh the beautiful colors oh gosh I can't wait for that I miss pine trees where'd you have them last where's camera my camera my camera balance please Pittsburgh PA has a lot of pine trees you don't have any here I don't plant some yourself bro one ain't foxie please Foxy fix that. Foxy fix that blurry, dude.

Wish that good. Foxy, Foxy can't fix it. Anyways, it's light out of here. Oh, oh, oh, hold on. Just had it for a second. Hold on. Turned towards the, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Beautiful. Look at that. That's a magic trick. Wow. That's movie magic, brother.

Is that baseball or softball? Baseball. It could be softball. It could be softball. It's softball. It's soft. beautiful here. It is a postcard, which you know, you've got to fly into, which you

certainly have to. Here tomorrow will be a huge actually this way, sick. I wonder if this one will, we got it. Dude, those facilities do look absurd. Look at that soccer field. That's a practice field, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on. There's a Ben Affleck played

him, right, in the movie? Yeah, he played Phil Knight, yeah. He did a great job. Dude. Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. We got it. pine trees over here, pine trees over here with clouds. Yeah, cloud, mountains. Kind of like homeward bound. A little bit of an arctic layer of, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see that, yeah. The Pacific Northwest is really bringing a little smog to the area. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. It's unbelievable, they say. I believe the Bob Ross paintings are potentially up for grabs. Have you read that? Well, excuse me.

All of them? Yeah, I think there's a chance. I know it's a state. There's a whole thing with his estate and everything. Oh, yeah. They robbed them. Kualski family. I watched Kowalski family. I watched a documentary. That was a business decision that was made by Bob Ross, though, which I think people would say. And obviously, his family would say that he didn't like that business decision. Maybe he's a little bit too old to make that decision. We watched a documentary as everybody else did because we love Bob Ross painting. And I wish I could paint like him. That'd be really cool. He literally paints what this is out here. I think there's something going on with some of his paintings going up for sale, maybe for auction. I don't know. I think I saw something. Just though we'll definitely try to get in on that. just like any cool things that are available.

We are certainly put in a position to maybe try to acquire these things, and we will certainly do that for the entire cause. Speaking of acquiring, let's maybe have a perfect week by you. Let's pick a perfect slate, AJ Hawk. Why don't you do that? Let's start last night. Obviously, you picked the Eagles plus seven and a half as the coach McCarthy. And what?

You want to rephrase what you just said? Well, no, he had half of it. He said plus seven and a half. Oh, okay. Sorry, you had the Giants plus seven and a half. Sorry, AJ. You had the Giants plus seven and half at home alongside coach McCarthy and Jack Carr. Yeah.

Oh, you're right. I should have known then. He knew that. Shoot. Gumpy, will you please come join me up here, Gumpy? Jack Carr giving that pick, okay, after McCarthy gives that pick and you give that pick, and then Tone gives us that damn stat, the 13 and I just go, yeah, but it's the Eagles. I'm sick of me

I am I'm absolutely sick of it I play drums on it Get in there, go Oh fuck Play drummed I can't hear anything You got to turn that up Yeah, each of these are just keep ruffled around

Keep wrestling around the game You're good, you can hear it Got it hogger Don't worry hogger That is the hawker down there How do you feel about the helmets How do you feel about it? Good helmets, nice green on there

How do you feel about the out here last night. He's good. Good bird. He's kind of taking over the desk right now. Did you see that? He's invading. He's invading. Established confidence. He's back in his Pacific Northwest. He's back on the West Coast. We are 45 minutes

away from the beach. Shout to Paison, Anthony. Remember the SWAT team out here hanging out with us? 45 minutes to the beach one direction, obviously west. And then east you're an hour away from the mountains where he can go ski and snowboard. So it's pretty perfect set up here in Eugene. It's pretty beautiful. What's that? Go ahead.

Just imagine, like, the people who settled that place, what they would have thought about it, the first people to get there. Like, this is the greatest place on earth. He got everything up here with the Buffalo Beals in Oregon. Think about the people that pushed that far along. Yeah. The settlers is a crazy conversation to have because I'd like to think that I'd make it all the way over there. You know, I'd like to think that I would do that.

But, boy, you give me over there to Oklahoma. Maybe you're in a lake, Indiana. I mean, shit, you give me to fucking where I'm living right now. And I'm walking across, I'm walking across, and it's terrible. And we've got a bunch of what, we're trying to forge rivers and shit. And I see the view that I have. And I'm like, give me this. I'll just stay right here.

But I would have been called soft because they were trying to make it all the way of the West. If you made it all the way to Oregon, that would be an insane amount of just fortitude. And just the amount of mental toughness and actual physical toughness as you had from Pittsburgh trying to make your way all the way up here to the Pacific Northwest. It's a beautiful country. every piece of it, and we're certainly seeing the top left of it. And let's make our picks now, age. Age, you're 1 and O going in to Sunday morning, as the Broncos will take on the Jets in London. Now, we've seen some explosive international games thus far to kick out our days.

Gumpier, are you expecting Broncos Jets to have one of those thrillers to start our morning? No, I imagine this will be an absolute shite kicking the way the Jets are going. Broncos are playing good football. I don't think the Jets are going in the right direction. Everybody wants to say they are, and it's going to get better. I don't think it is. Connor likes the way the Jets are headed strictly because Aaron Glenn's there and it takes a little bit to build a culture, especially one that has been absolute shites for so long and seemingly cursed by all parties. Broncos favored by six and a half.

AJ, what are your thoughts in Londontown? Man, so six and a half, I honestly thought this might be a little higher than six and a half. I'm taking the Broncos minus six and a half. I think they definitely can win by seven or more. But the Jets, they're chasing that elusive first victory with Aaron Glenn, aren't I? Yeah, and first turnover. There are seven and a halfs out there as well if you did fancy the Jets. I fancy the Broncos at minus six and a half.

I do as well. And shout out to Good Daly, London Town. I mean, Sean Pytton's got it out of the home minute or it's kind of the next game, shall we? Cleveland Brown's Pittsburgh Steelers 1 p.m. on CBS. Steelers favored by six and a half at home against Dylan Gabriel, Chador Sanders, zip on the ball zappy, Mawas, Garrett, Kevin's Defoeffey, Miles Garrett, Kevin Stefansky and did you see Deshawn Watson

throwing the ball around in the practice facility? It's a loaded quarterback room. Absolutely loaded quarterback room. Is it Deshawn Watson? They tried to write me off. I sort of was rode off. I played like I was off

and I didn't write back though. Deshawn Watson season coming right now? AJ, is that what we got going on? I'm telling you what I mentioned a couple weeks ago on the program. What happens when Deshawn wants to come back and play? He's going to be healthy eventually, right? Can they shut him down? And it looked like he's working.

It looked like he's working. It looked like he is putting in the work. Like throw technique looked good. Drills looked natural. It didn't look like he was exhausted. It looked like he was putting in the work. It's like when Deshawn Watson gets dropped back into this whole Cleveland Brown's quarterback experiment, I cannot wait for the conversation.

But that's not this weekend. Tone, you guys are favored by six and a half at home. Yep. Down your thoughts? The Steelers have won 21 straight in Pittsburgh against the Cleveland Browns. Mike Tomlin is 14 and 4 off of a buy. Mike Tomlin is 26 and 6 against rookies. The Browns are flying back from London.

What could go wrong this weekend? Sounds like this is Steelers in a landslide. AJ, you going that way? Yep. Give me the Steelers minus six and a half. You get five and a half. Minus five and a half at home. I'll take Steelers.

Jumping, that's what you're doing as well? Yeah, the boys were crushing beers at the Guino's game. They were. They were. They were. What game? He loved to see it. Love that Pittsburgh's all the way back to.

Are the Penn's undefeated? Yeah, they are. Rangers, Don. Islanders, Don. Boy's chugging beers, good. Pittsburgh seemingly. all the way back. T.J. Watt, not wearing a jersey.

He said, I'll dress the part, but I'm not wearing a whole song and dance here. Those are the seats that we said. Great seats. Exactly. Unreal. Yeah, it is a phenomenal setup over there at PPG Paints Arena. Congrats to the Penn's being undefeated, by the way. You're going to carry that the entire seat.

Oh, yeah, boys. We're all in Pittsburgh Steelers. Did the Bruins win again or no? Funny enough, they did. 2-0, baby. We won in overtime. Love that. Hockey's off to a hot start for us.

Cowboys, Carolina Panthers, Cowboys favored by three and a half heading in to Charlotte, 49 and a half over under. Dak was one of the top five QBs and coach McCarthy's fastball first five, top five. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? I'm going to have a hard time picking against the Cowboys here.

I like what Dak is doing. I think Dak is awesome. I think the defense is slowly maybe getting better in Dallas. So give me the Cowboys minus three and a half. You get to three? Three. Can we like that? Can we pull the percentage bet thing back up, the graphic that we have?

Can we pull that thing back up? This is... What's that? What's that, brother? My bad. I was going to say this is one of those ones with possible trade candidates on it because the Cowboys, I guess, or sorry, the Panthers, I guess, are starting former running back Rico Dowdale, Rigo Dowdell against the Cowboys game. I kind of revenge game, and some people are pontificating that Chuba Hubbard might be on the trade block after this week.

Got it. That's 69% of the money right there is being bet on the Dows Cowboys, which odds and stats this season have told us has not been able to all for a public. And on that note, me and AJ are both joining them. Chargers, Dolphins, Chargers favored by three and a half. Herbert and Tua, here we go. We find out with the draft was right or not.

That's what we're finding out this weekend. That's right. A runner, 43 and a half. Gumpy, how do you feel about it? We can't stop the run, and Chargers have no running backs. This would be a game that Dolphins would, win for no reason at all because Herbert's never beat the Dolphins, but I got no confidence with this Dolphins team right now. You can't. Our O-Line stinks. You can't run the ball. It's tough.

It's too okay. It was banged up a little bit, right? Is he all right? Yeah, he's got his hip and thumb, I believe. He'll be out there. I think Cedric Wilson is playing. Oh, nice. Our O-Lines still banged up. We're guys that were supposed to be back this week, going to be out for another several weeks. So, but Willie Gay maybe gets some burn because Dodson is out with a concussion. If Willie Gay does not play snaps with Dodson out, then is his serious malpractice. The Gumpy trying to practice or trying to coach from Eugene, Oregon here at the Miami Dolphins. Much like the dolphin, the mammal, Gumpy's been underwater with his fanhood here

of this particular team over the last few weeks. And we've all seen, and I wore these actually the off-white strictly because of McDaniel's little walk out so we can get the tag, so we can get the tag to kind of hit me in the foot there. And on that note, I'll take the Chargers, minus three and a half. AJ, who do you got? I mean, Gumpy really sold the Dolphins on his little diatribe, talking about how well the team is doing, but I'm going to have to go against Gump here

and take the Chargers minus three and a half. Is this all too obvious? We're all on the same side. Patriots taking on the Saints' Saints fresh off a huge dog, huge. Rattler, this guy, they said can't actually win. Like, that's the thing. He actually just can't, you just can't win. And what he needs to do is maybe go out to the trees and find it new him.

That's what they were saying there for a while. That's what they were saying for a little bit of a time that maybe Rattler needs to just disappear for a while and stop doing NFL football because the guy can't buy a win. He does. And are they going to continue that? Are they about to go on a heater? I know, Connor, you're very worried about this Saints team down there. What are your thoughts on your New England Patriots pal? Yeah, I've been saying this for a while.

Rattler is a top 10 quarterback. No one really is given his respect. You know, once Bob Salas said, probably should be a household name, man. I went in and checked the tape, and he's right. His kid's got some shit to him with that being set. You worried? Look, I'm not, I'm definitely feel better about the Pats first of bills

and I do against the Saints this week. Last week, it was kind of a layup. But Christian Gonzalez was added to the injury report with a hamstring again. So I don't know if he's, you know, full go or not, and especially after last night, yeah, he's limited, but especially after yesterday where

Jalen Carter just kind of out of nowhere missed the game, even though that's a short week, I do get a little worried about that, but if the Patriots lose this game, then everything we set on Monday's horseshit, so I expect him to win by 25. Okay, Drake May, maybe

doesn't get rattled heading down there, Spencer Rattler, the Rattler, maybe a little rat poison after having a big time win. Jay, you like the Patriots or the Saints? I like the Patriots on this one, Patryant, Patryant, you're on the same side? Yeah, it's the line reeks. It's a bad spot, but I think the way Drake's going in, Frable's not going to let these boys let off the gas pedal here.

They'll keep rolling. Paige, I have some bad news for you, brother. Me and you picking the same here is not good. I don't think in the history of this entire thing. Los Angeles Rams at the Baltimore Ravens. We know Buda's going to be there. Stavi's going to be there. They're going to show up.

You know, that place is going to be jumping. Angeles Rams have won over there before. Remember, I think it was a punt return or something like that that got him the game a couple years back. Matthew Stafford, Puka, Nakua, all the boys are absolutely cooking. Devante Adams obviously don't want to miss mention him. Favored by seven and a half. Seven and a half taking on Cooper Cush. A.J., who do you like? How do you like it? I mean, can you pick the Ravens here? Are you thinking about picking the Ravens on this one? It is a 1 p.m. game. Sportsbooks. Oh, 10 a.m. for the Los Angeles folks. but they're used to that now at this point, right?

Yeah, I think so. There's a seven out there as well. I'll take the Los Angeles Rams minus seven. It's going to be tough to pick the Ravens at this stage until they're bi-week or two weeks from now. There's still plus money to miss the playoffs. I'll get in on that while you can't.

Ravens plus, but they're still the favorites to win the AFC North. Yeah, I don't see how they come back. Like, they weren't good when Lamar was healthy. Like, this is the whole season. They haven't been good. Can you like the Rams, agent? Yeah, like the Rams.

Now, go ahead. That's just for you guys, keeping track. That's six out of six favorites so far, just so you guys know. And all the same. Chuck. Hey, we got to trust our instincts. Yeah, you got to do what you. You've got a great dog coming up right here.

Your heart is your North Star. This is a great week for a moneyline parlay, though. This is a great week for a moneyline parlay. Who knows what's going to happen with these points? AJ, it feels like we're just some mark-ass hose right now. No. No, no. Yeah, it does feel like that.

Seattle Seahawks traveling to Duval. That's a long trip. One o'clock game as well. Seahawks favored by one and a half, taken on Liam Cohen-led Jacksonville Jaguars. Just for everything that we've said about the Seattle Seahawks, we know they're a good football team. We're thankful to be up here in the Pacific Northwest

where obviously these Seahawks buzz around and have a good time. This Jacksonville Jaguars team, though, we've talked about them being legit. Trevor Lawrence obviously has a couple moments of Trevor Lawrence experience football, every single game, but maybe this year for the Jags. One o'clock start in Jacksonville. It's going to be hot, maybe. What's the temperature down there in Duval? Do we understand or know

what that is yet? Beautiful. Hopefully. Seventy-thirty-three. McDonald's only ever lost once on the road since becoming Seahawks head coach. 10 of 11 or 9 of 10? Not positive on the exact. Oh, I think it was 9.

I think it was 9 to 10 and then he won 1. And I think it's 10 of 11, I think. That's an unbelievable start. That's an believe it was 76 degrees. Thank you, Tone, for getting that in there. So the, I will get the Seahawks won into Pittsburgh.

Seahawks won into Pittsburgh. They did. Seahawks are good football team. Jags are good football team? Jags are the football team? One with their short week, two football team. This is one of these lines. Also, whatever team you take, you could get them at plus one and a half. Oh.

Oh. I like that option. Yeah. I don't need dogs. AJ, who do you like? I'm taking the Jags here at plus one to half. I mean, let me be the Chiefs when Trevor jumps and tries to score from the half inch line and gets the butt knocked out. They still find a way to win that game, so I'm taking them here.

Okay, and we'll do East Coast bias through and through. Give me the Jags. Cardinals at Colts, Colts 7 and a half. Don't know if there's enough points to put on that one. AJ, you're with me. I have to go Colts here, absolutely. Six and a half is out there. Yeah.

We'll take that. Love it. We'll take that. Yeah, we'll take it. take 10 and a half, too, if it was that with the line, but we'll take six and a half, especially in that Loud House. They're going to have to prove it to us. I don't know, are we going dark on your guys' side? Yes. Is there a camera there? Uh, you know, it's been, it's been a little, there's been some flickering going on over here. And maybe that's just because

it's spooky season. It's October. Because you pick the Jags, probably. Oh, that's a Seattle. That's a sea hawks coming down. That's a good point. Uh, there is a chance that's what that is. Uh, Cardinals, Colts, we're both on the Colts. Titans, Raiders, Raiders, raiders, favored by three and a half at home. Cam Ward gets a chance to go do some Las Vegas stuff. Gumpie, what are your thoughts on this game? I think the Titans keep it going. Three and a half Raiders have looked like absolute shites

since week one against the Patriots. I think Titans, not great, but they are trending in the right direction. AJ, I mean, after what just happened on Colts Raiders, you think that they would want to bounce back in a big way at home, but maybe they are just not good. But I wouldn't believe. Pete Carroll? Might see Kenny Pickett.

I think there's a lot of money if we were to go to that most bad games. I feel like there's most of the money's actually on the Titans. Correct. Yeah, they are 61% on the Titans. Give me the Raiders, Pat. I'm taking the Raiders here. I was thinking Titans early, but Raiders got to figure something.

You get them at minus three and a half. You can get the Titans at plus four and a half. Okay. Three minus three and a half ratings. That's a good number. It's a good number. I'm appearing Eugene. Yeah.

I'll take the Titans. I'll take the Titans plus four and a half. San Francisco 49ers at. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Bucks favored by three and a half at home. Mac Jones. Who? Returning to a state of Florida. Mac Jones. Who? Returning to the state.

Mac Jones. He's heading to the state of Florida to try to take on Baker Mayfield. A lot of Moxie at the quarterback position here this weekend. For Baker, Moxie Mayfield in Moxie Mac Jones. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? Well, I think of this one, I'm going to

take Baker, Moxie, Mayfield. field here at minus three and a half something to think about Mac Jones is a Florida boy. He's from Jacksonville I assume his entire family is going to be in Tampa. So he's going to try to press. He's going to put the ball on the windows. Maybe that he normally doesn't. Do too much

for the people. Yeah, I played there. Maybe it brings the gritty back. I love that from his rookie year when he made the pro ball. How much can we kind of put into the fact that this Buccaneers team is the last playboys, final playboys. Three and a half is more than

you know there's a chance for a two for here there's a chance for a two for here I'll take the Niners plus three and a half year but I think the Bucks win I think the Bucs win this game and I take the 9th and get a three there for those Give me three bucks at three Okay, Bengals at

holy fuck That's my first time seeing that line Yeah, bingo Bingo Bingo Oh my Are you kidding me? Hold on, this is Jack

Jackson Dart last night. This is Jackson Dart exactly situation last night. I was watching the Pat McAfee, and they were talking about this threat as if they've been. 14 and a half is the first thing I noticed there, and I go absolutely crazy. Joe Flackett gets a chance to showcase to another team how great he is. He gets a chance to, you know, duel against a defense that he's already dominated for 140 yards this season. Green Bay, At Lambo, taking on the Cincinnati Bengals. Are they going to be sellers at the trade deadline because maybe, the way they constructed their team with their salary cap wasn't necessarily suited for winning

football games in 2025, or are the Cincinnati Bengals with this Hail Mary, is Joe Flacco Hail Mary going to turn it all around until Joe Burrow can get back? 14 and a half is a lot of points. Ty, I know you hated seeing 14 and a half right there, brother. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, we all know what Joe Flacco can do. Apparently, Jamar Chase did just pop up with like some sort of illness. I mean, he's going to play.

There's no question about that. I would think Packers, Zach Tom and Aaron Banks, the entire right side of their O line, hasn't played for a little bit coming out of the buy. I'm thinking they are going to play. But now McManus potentially might not play on Sunday. So, you know, 14 and a half, like it just, I don't know, I'll be very, very concerned. This cannot come down to a field goal. And I have that feeling that Joe Flacco is going to keep this thing tight. It's going to come down to a field goal, and we're going to be trotting out of backup out there, and it's not going to go well.

So we'll see. Kind of all eyes are on what is Brandon McManus' status going into Sunday? Yeah, Brandon McManus has been great for the Packers. It's been great everywhere. He's got a kick. He had a situation pop up where he's falsely accused of something, took away a couple of his prime years. You're talking about a guy who could potentially be on the track

and being one of the greatest kickers of all time. And he is. Nails. Very talented. Very, very, very good. Hopefully he'll still kick for a long, long time. Didn't like seeing him get injured. AJ, what do you think in this one?

You think Joey Flack just gets smacked? No, I don't think so. There's a chance, I guess. Yeah, there is a chance. Green Bay's defense, we know, can play at a very high level. 14-a-half just seems like so much. I feel like I normally would pick the Packers here and think, oh, yeah, of course they're going to win by two or three scores,

but I think there's always some weird garbage touchdown or something to make the game look closer than it actually was. So I'm taking Bengals. The Packers have also had multiple, like the games they won this year were when it was like a blowout. Like, it's always the takeaway is, well, the score doesn't. indicate how much of a blow, like they don't, they don't step on teams' throats, really. They'll get up 21, 24 points, and then kind of just, you know, three and out, run it three times,

punt, and then teams will get, they'll back door them pretty frequently. Yeah, I think the only other spread, sorry, my bet tone, a 14 plus was the Saints at Bills and the Saints did end up covering that. You are correct, but, AJ, are you still wearing the split Bengals Packers jersey and doing coin toss this game? We're doing a coin toss. That's cool. It's AJ Hawk Bowl.

Yeah. I don't think I don't think I got the inbox. They don't even bought me. I don't think I'll be there. I don't get involved. I'll take the Bengals plus 14 and a half, AJ. Give me Bengals plus 14.5. Yeah.

I love it. You guys are glad. Strictly because I'll be able to wake up and say, I bet on Joe Flatt. It can be 24 to 3 with a minute left and then Flacko can go score a touchdown. Flacko throws a 97-yard touchdown in the air. Or he runs one. Mark, yeah, walk in back. Yeah, bingo.

Catches it himself. Exactly. Catches it himself. All right. And then Detroit Lions taking on to Kansas City Chiefs. This is a big one for the Kansas City Chief. Now, Detroit Lions, obviously, every game's a big game because they're in the middle of their MCDC era and they could be potentially, you know, they could go down and it's changing an entire city, an entire football culture in a huge way. Every game is big.

For the Kansas Chiefs, this feels like a big one. This really does. Huge. You know, the Detroit Lions. are not the Lions of yesterday year, but the Detroit Lions are certainly a good thermometer of what you're going to have to face in the playoffs, and after losing to Jacksonville the way you did on primetime, then you take on this Detroit team, and you don't look good, it's going to get loud, it's going to get loud for this Kansas City Chief team.

And I am a Can Sea Chiefs fan. I'm a Kansas Chief supporter, and they are favored by two and a half against the Detroit Lion's team. What am I missing, Foxy? Why are the Chiefs favored by two and a half at home? Pat, I have no idea all week long. I've been trying to figure out all week long. This line has been inside my brain because normally had I not seen this line,

I would have said the lion's going to Arrowhead, kick their ass, take care of business. But this line, Vegas knows something. And for the first time, I am not a blame the refs guy. But we got to be on alert for something fishy to happen in this game. Why is this the case? Why is this the case? And just like you said, the Chiefs just lost. Are the Chiefs going to lose again?

I don't think the NFL wants that. I think the Lions are a better team. The Lions are incredible on prime time. Taylor's going to be there. And the Lions are great when they're underdogs. It's just none of it makes sense. So we're going to see what happens. So that's why I had to get out and say this.

Yeah, I like my friends cancel. She's going to be there. That's why. She has to be. Sports books understand. Also, the Lions are the Lions are the most popular. popular pick of the weekend. I think they're like 80, 85% or something.

Vegas knows something. Yeah, 85% of the war. Yeah, the streaks. I would like to let the brother of the Japanese maple tree build penis. What? That I am a believer. What's that?

Sorry, what? I got you. What's that? I was trying to process exactly what you said. His brother, the brother of the Japanese maple tree, penis. The brother is the

Redwood, pal, okay? And that man is still playing football. That man is still on a mission to be great. Patrick Mahomes, he don't like what happened. He said, whatever he said, he's not happy about it. Andy Reid's not going to be pumped about it. Spaggs,

you think Spaggs enjoying us? Absolutely not. Tob, yeah, right. Give me the Chiefs, minus two and a half out of him. Because it makes no sense at all. Offense did look better. against the jags, though. And a week before they put up 30 plus. Yeah, their defense is looking better. This makes no sense.

This makes no sense, AJ. Yeah, it doesn't. I mean, with all that being said, as the brother of the Japanese dong tree, I will take the Detroit Lions at plus two and a half there. The Japanese maple is the tree that resembles his penis best.

Is what I learned. Wake up. You're right. Which is crazy, because it's about shipping his maples. Okay. Thank you. Jesus. I mean, yeah, it does feel weird, but I'm taking Detroit. Keep up with this stuff. It matters.

I know. Daily. I know. That's why I repeated it. She got her friends. Can't she. Maybe she gets a microphone in sweet. Ooh, it does like the Bill's promo before Saturday night football.

The Fred Jackson. one last week. Taylor does one this week. She should. You're right. No, she does wood, I think. Oh. Go to the fourth quarter. Okay. I think, hey, we're swinging at this quarter. I think that's Sure. Trav runs out there and starts

flopping it all around. I was like, Chiefs Queen of! Of course. There's a chance. Before we get out of here, before we get out of here, we got to celebrate an absolute legend celebrating another trip around the sun. Ziti, baby!

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It's ice cream. Ice cream cake and it's fire. Fucking Melby! Dude, I think, is that a bike? Is that a, is that a, is that a, is that a BMX tracker? What is the? You better get a dino and get out there's a mongoose. Let me see this.

Let me see this. Let me see this. A BMX, dude. So sick if you go. Front and back pegs, get gump on the front pegs. Is that a, you're more of a back. peg guy oh hell yeah at least the skate park no I think it's dirt what I think is I can get my blades or a skateboard or a bike on that

okay and then let's also remember where we're out here let's go ahead and just take a look at it a little happy what's up there it's like the Unibon Man so beautiful he lived in a similar situation yeah no he's in jail I'll tell you you want to get away this is a place to do it there's a tree to hide behind right there right there right there

right there. I need to go Pete. Go behind the tree. Which one? That one. And that one. Oh, Eugene's Emerald Valley, BMX. That's what that is.

Oh, hell. That's so cool. So sick. Bruce, yeah. We get so much air on that. That's filthy. What time are you guys going? Yeah.

Gump. I bet Gump. Well, that's what I'm wondering. They got mongoose out there? You think they're all mongus? Yeah. Colt Nichols mentioned to us. He loved that track when he was in here before the DMAC.

That's a motor cross. Okay, a little different than BMS. But I respect what you're saying. Dave Mirr. Yeah, Mayor. Yeah, Matt Hoffman. Ryan Nyquist. Son of a God.

Oh, Nyquist. He's husband. He's a dog. Pink's husband. Nah, he's a motor. He's a motorist. Yeah, he was a member of the militia. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. The metal militia. The metal militia. That's good. That's good. Ex-Games. What a great time. All right.

Bob Bernquist. Those aren't heavy bikes. Bob was a skipper. I mean, I'm about to go take a heavy buck over there. I should get one of those, one of those e-bikes that we got. Oh, shit. Serial five. Yeah.

Those things are awesome. We need to ship one of those up here. What do you have doobgages? Get you on their night. Yeah, will they let you rip a doom buggy on that thing? That would be sick. I don't know. I mean, I'll ask.

She should just take a golf cart, dude. Fuck it. Jump on gumps back and let him run you around. Marsha on lid. All right, hey, great work this week, boys. We got an entire day left ahead of us. over here. Yeah, get some rest, dude.

Seriously. I mean, just at least get a nap or something. Jeez. Zeno sent me a text. He said, you flew roughly 3,202 miles. Holy hell. It was an honor to be here. I got to see this beautiful country from one side to the other.

And it was certainly worthy. Getting a chance to celebrate the hell out of good people doing good things for society last night in New York. And then getting a chance to come out here and celebrate the hell out of football. It's an honor to do this. That's another week, Don. We appreciate you all. Great work in the back, boys. Good work, boys.

Pop left, ear, left, here, righty, and, and righty, and let's be sophisticated. And let's golf clap, that's pretty good clap. That's a good clap. Now let's go, like, we're doing a cadence. We need to clap loud. It's a next wave and practice. How about a slow clap here? Let's go a slow clap here.

This is a good one. Yeah, yeah. That's why I love, that's why that's what's... Exactly. Quack. Yeah! Quak! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quark! Quark! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! We're going to do the Ducks!

hear that a lot out here. We're going to hear that a lot out here. I'm excited for that. AJ, we'd travel out here, man. We appreciate you doing. A baby Hawker. Yes, sir. Talk to the table, really good work, boys. I appreciate it, too. Ty, sorry about what happened to your team. Yeah.

It's all right. It's football season now. Fully football season. It's all right. Congratulations to the, um, the Cubs last night. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Game five tomorrow. And the Dodgers, obviously. big game, big win over to Phillies. Tone, great work this week, man. I really appreciate it.

Thank you. You too. Graphic Department, way out there, boys. Go work, graphic voice. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Thank you to all the guests that came on this week and gave us a little piece of information or something to make fun of. Both those things are good. That is very good for our program. I don't know about other places, but definitely

good here. And thank you to Coach Rule for joining us earlier in the week and getting a chance to catch up with a Nebraska Cornhusker coach for about 20 minutes or so. I think you all would enjoy the conversation. I think you all are going to have the greatest weekend of all time. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're going to send you together.

Team on me. AJ, anything you say? It's a better one next week, fellas. All right. That was good, AJ. Have the greatest weekend of all time, AJ. We'll see you on Monday, okay? Overreaction Monday is about to be glorious with everything that's about to take place.

Over the next couple of days, we're talking about maybe the most historic weekend of all time. And the reason why we're thinking like this is because we have no idea if it's not going to be. What if this is the greatest weekend? in a ball that ball has ever had. Holy shit, what if baseball actually has a little bit of electricity? What if college football delivers in a massive way? And then football from 9.30 in the morning, all the way until 1 a.m. at night, Eastern Time.

Let's have the greatest games of all time. We'll see you guys on Monday. The NHO also going to kick some ass on the ice. We appreciate them for doing that. And then are the a ACEs about to just sweep this thing. Come on a chance. Sports are the greatest. You people are as well.

Team on me. Team on three. Have a great weekend. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to chit-chat with a man who is currently 4-1

with national championships still in front of them if they're able to win it all. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach from Nebraska. Matt Roo! What's up? Hey, great to see you. Obviously, after the buy, we didn't get a chance to catch up last week. Huge win over Michigan State.

How do you feel? How was the vibes and how was the win, coach? You know what? It was a great win. I think Michigan State has a really good football team. but I'll tell you what, bro, it's playing in the Midwest. It was 40, 45, 50-mile-hour gusts. It was an unbelievable day.

It was 90 degrees, and the wind blew like crazy. We scored to tie the game to start the third quarter and kicked off, and they couldn't field the ball because it got caught up in the wind. That's how intense the weather was. It's those days, coach, where I'm thankful that I'm not kicking a ball anymore. You know, like on Sunday mornings, whenever. you're a punter and you're in a way game or something like that and you don't know what it's going to be like open stadium you wake up in the morning you pull back the blinds and then you try

to find a flag on top of a building somewhere and then whenever you see it and if that thing is at full attention anxiety immediately kicks in and you know great today is going to be awful but in the Midwest big 10 you got to be able to battle through that I see you had a block kick or a block punt obviously for a touchdown are we humming in all three phases at this point how do you feel you know post the big, I don't want to say big, but your only loss. How do you feel now building off of this particular game as you head into a KG Maryland

team at Maryland for your first away game? This is your first actual true away game. There was a neutral site game against Sinci which was a huge win for you guys, especially with how Sinci is playing and continuing to play. But now first road game is against Maryland here. How do you feel going in there? And what are your

thoughts? We feel good. We feel like, I appreciate what you said. Like, you know, we beat Cincinnati 20 to 17, you know, people are like, oh, that's awfully close. They're a heck of a football. They just beat a ranked Iowa State team. I think they have more votes in the top 25 than we do. So, you know, people are recognizing how good Cincinnati is, which I love. You know, Michigan got us, you know, it was a close game. But to come out out this past week, to block a punt for a touchdown, we had a bunch of big, right now we're out punt returning our opponent, 239 yards to minus one.

So we're playing great special teams. Dillon's playing well. The defense is, you know, stopping the run. Maryland's an excellent team. They're also four and one, so it's good Big Ten football. And I think the thing in the Big Ten is we always think about a couple, there's a lot of good teams in the Big Ten, so this will be a good game. Year three, Matt Rule program. You know, this is just

kind of what it's been. It's kind of what it's been. No, they lost the game, though. They didn't go perfect. Well, still. I mean, we got a couple away games. You got to go at Penn State, obviously. That's a big one as we look ahead. I know you're just looking week to week, and you've got to go at UCLA, which is a

point across the big 10 go ahead tie yeah coach why do you think that that is always the first excuse for coaches when they lose a game when they have to travel like that obviously you guys are going to maryland it's not like i mean that's not a cross-country travel situation but you still have to travel uh but with the state of college football now like why are coaches acting like you know when you guys go out to UCLA why are coaches acting like you're walking from nebraska to UCLA you're flying on a chartered flight these kids have done it before obviously you're coached in the NFL, so you kind of maybe understand it a little bit more, but

like, why is that such an easy excuse? And do you think that there is actually cause for using that as an excuse when you don't perform when you have to travel for one of these cross-country games? Well, I'm not one of those coaches because I have not said that.

Good. Yet? Yeah. No, no, no, no. It's in the back pocket, though. I still got it if needed. No, no. I mean, the game comes down to blocking and tackling it comes down to making plays, and I trust our players. And so we're going to always try to make things all about football. And, you know, traveling, obviously traveling always has a little bit of an effect.

The thing about the Big Ten, unlike any other conference, except maybe now the ACC, is there's these huge, huge, huge swings. Like, this week we're going to go to Maryland. It's on the East Coast. We're playing at three. We'll get back probably, I don't know, 11 midnight. Then we turn around and go on the road next Friday for Minnesota. Like, well, if you as a coach, you could complain about that.

But for me, I'm just like, you know what? Like, we've known we have to do that. It would be a disservice to our players to complain about it. So we're not going to complain about anything. Like, we get to go to Los Angeles and play UCLA. We get to go to Maryland. We get to go to Penn State. And you know what?

People also have to come play us and play in the wind and play in the elements. I think the Big Ten should be, instead of complaining about it, I think we should be celebrating it and saying, hey, all you guys in your conferences that fly 30 minutes or drive and bus, Try come doing what we do one time. Try going six hours like Washington had to do and then turn around and flying back and playing a Friday game.

It's really hard, but we're not going to complain about it. We're just going to go try to win the game. You've got to be a mentally tough team to be in the Big Ten, obviously. And this is another kind of example of that, I think in a big way, especially with the traveling. But the teams that you have to travel too,

I'm thinking about that this weekend because we're going to Oregon for College Game Day. And I'll tell you what, Oregon, once you get there, beautiful place. I mean, it is absolutely gorgeous. It's green. It was when I, the last time we went up there, which I think was last year and then two years ago, I've been there a couple of times now.

Once you land there, it is a postcard. It is glorious and everything like that. But it's far. It is far. I'm taking the same flight that this Indiana Hoosier team is taking basically, you know, because they're 45 minutes south of here. So that's a long way. So I have put myself in the thing, how would I feel with this?

And there's certainly a player, you know, prehab, rehab, rehab. What do you do with your body? When do you eat? When do you sleep? How do you go about staying hydrated on the plane? You know, all that? Because it is an inconvenience to be in a tube, okay, for that long. It is certainly.

It would be much better to live your life and be able to move and do your life than be in a tube for that long. I mean, I just flew to Australia. I don't even know. I don't even know how I did. I still don't know how I accomplished it. I mean, I genuinely don't know what it is. So it's certainly an inconvenience.

But all those teams on the West Coast, they got to do it for every way. Like, they are also. I think that's a good point and I think you were chitch chatting potentially about the SEC because the SEC Sankey, obviously the commissioner, he like brags about how we are still the southeastern

conference. You know, we are still geographically what we are, which is why he doesn't want to expand as much. I think he takes a lot of pride in that factor. But as we found out in the playoffs, you got to be able to win a cold. That's right. You got to be able to win in a dog fight.

You got to be able to win after flying for five, six hours maybe for seven, eight hours, whatever it is. From one side of country, oh, that's Big Ten football. I don't know if you can just pick that up in a practice or in a four week. I don't know if you can find that. That's a difference. That's what you're saying? It sounds like

that's what you're saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. Tone has a question for you. Go ahead. I was just going to ask you, like, you mentioned college game to go into Oregon. How was Penn State? How was, how was Beaver Stadium? What was the, what was that atmosphere like?

Okay, so that was my first time being there for a nighttime whiteout, okay? Which obviously I've learned about and known about since its very beginning. It was, it started whenever I was in college at West Virginia, AQ's team 2007, it was the first one. So this thing kind of captivated the globe, the white out, the white out, the white out, the white out,

the white out, the white out. And this was my first time getting an opportunity to experience it. It was awesome, dude. It was an electric atmosphere. And they're in the middle of a renovation, as you know, and they still have 112,000 people in there. And it feels like it's radar

on top of you. And literally, it's just like a white blanket, just kind of wrapped around. And then the DJ, whoever's the in-game DJ, perfectly timed music, Mo Bamba hits at, like, as soon as a tackle, as soon as the body hits the ground, Mo Bamba's

hitting in that thing. It's just, it was awesome. Now, they lose to Oregon. Now, that was, when that pick happens, I mean, that is a devastating. Yeah. Just out of that place. Because as you know,

outside getting out of there, I think, is pretty difficult from my understanding. And boy, hundred and some thousand after the way that game ended with all the day, like game day was electric. Those people were insane. The outside parking lot area, Stanford Steve came into a bus I was in at the time like two hours before kickoff and we were about to head in. I was like, how is it out there? And he goes, uh, absolute destruction. And I'm like, where? He goes, every. I'm like, what do you mean?

He's like just everywhere, everybody, everything you see, having a good time, very intoxicated, very excited for tonight. So I got a chance to feel it, experience it. It was electric. I need to get out to your place because I've heard your fans through everything are like top, top scene in the country,

no matter what's happening on the football field. There's no doubt. I've already extended the invitation. And at some point, the game day is going to come to us because we're getting better and better and better and better and you know what? The atmosphere, the

light show, the Will Compton pre-video like the Go Big Red was a celebrity like our crowd knows how to do it. They still get those good core Midwestern values, they're going to treat you right, treat you nice but it is an intense place and so can't wait for you guys to come see it.

Has Will been recording these with his new head? Are these week to week? recordings or is this pre-season recording? We'll see him back. He does them week to week, but he has not, he did not do Michigan State. We picked certain games for him that he can do. And so we have not seen it with the new, with the new look, with the, with the baldy. I can't wait for that one. Whoa. Oh. No, you're saying, you're saying the bald actually, not the balding. Yeah, yeah, okay. Two different things. Yeah, yeah, the bald head. Because his hair's actually

growing back pretty quick. It is, no doubt. He's got a, he's got a good amount of hair right there. I told him we need to do hat you know like i called a media and it was like hey i have like the same hair line i think as you that side shot they got you on get up just rude you know like that that is not you know because now it's back it's close he's like maybe two weeks out that's unbelievable work by his hair yeah and i think that's smart to save him for a big look it's coming back yeah it's a good bad he's a good speaker too like jason stath him bingo easy coach that's awesome uh tone Tone has a question for you, Coach. Just real quick, though, to kind of wrap up that entire,

how is the game day trip to Beaver State? Everywhere's been insane. College football right now is. I mean, everywhere has been. We were just at Alabama, and obviously I'm with Coach Saban. Oh. That's awesome. I would recommend everybody try that one time.

Just be at Alabama with Coach Sater. I mean, that was an absolute blast. I mean, it is, yeah, it's so stupid how awesome it all is, and so lucky to be a part of it. And I can't wait until shows back at Matt Rules team, just like it was at Baylor. Obviously, I wanted the Brazos there. And then I wasn't there.

Temple got game day? Yeah, we set records at Temple. We took over Independence Hall. Notre Dame came in 2015, and it was electric. The whole city of Philadelphia came out and supported. It was awesome. It would be an honor to do that there in Nebraska. Tone has a question for you, Coach.

Yeah, Coach, I have a question about Maryland. I saw a tweet. It was before this last weekend. They have eight true freshmen who have played at least 100 snaps this season, and the rest of the Big Ten, I believe, combined as eight true freshmen that have done that. So these true freshmen have kind of led the resurgence for Maryland this year, especially quarterback Malik Washington, who was highly recruited. Do you, how do you prepare for a team that with all these true freshmen that, you know,

you kind of don't know what they're going to be like? And is there anything that you take from your experience with Dylan last year as a true freshman to maybe kind of use against Malik and that Maryland team? No, it's great. And to your point, the freshmen that they have are ballers. The two edge rushers are elite. The quarterback is fantastic. You look at what the Big Ten is going to be in a couple years with what Malik's doing at Maryland, with Bryce Underwood's doing in Michigan, with what Dylan is doing as a sophomore. Like the young quarterbacks are going to really, really, I think, elevate the conference at a lot of different places. Dante at Oregon but I agree with you like you know you're looking at them in the non-conference

now they've played two conference games especially with the quarterback you're trying to see like what has he seen what has he not seen how does he handle pressure how does he handle his own coverage there's not a real big book on the guy like last year Dylan got off to a hot start and then as he started seeing more things and more things it really is you know as you face better teams you start getting hit and then the toll it starts to take on you you know when you're 21 22 as a quarterback and you've been lifting through three or four years, you're a little more prepared for the rigors of playing in the Big Ten.

Dylan went through that last year, which is why he redid his body this offseason. So we're looking at, Malik's awesome. He's played great. Touchdown interception ratio is amazing for a freshman quarterback. So we're just trying to look and say, hey, what are the things that we can do to affect him? Because no one has been able to affect him so far. I'll tell you what, just a physical football game. Obviously, football is a physical sport, and Big Ten football is just known for its physicality.

thinking about an 18-year-old versus 22-year-old is a very good point that you certainly have thought about whatever you're scouting or recruiting or utilizing in the transfer portal. Are you realizing younger quarterbacks right now at a premium because maybe transfer portal quarterbacks expensive? Like, so whenever we talk about NFL teams, and I know you're at a place that has a lot of backing and operation, rookie quarterbacks, I don't want to say on smaller contracts, but on a little bit smaller contracts so you can build up the kind of the room around them and then whenever you got to pay them obviously you got to start picking and choosing and I know there's obviously an

endless supply of money at some places and I assume Nebraska is one of those places West Virginia's giving out scholarships just know that but is there something to that having a younger quarterback or is it just more for stability going forward with a guy I think what it is for me and I really thought about this because I think this is the first year You were really seeing it. We were the first ones probably last year to do it, us in Florida to really go play the true freshman. But I think what you're seeing is some of these kids, like they could, you know, five, ten years ago, they would have gone to some perennial giant and sat and waited their turn.

But if you do that now, you're going to get back up money. You can go now to somewhere that's a really good school that's playing big time football, and you have a chance to start as a freshman, and you can get compensated as such. And so why would you go sit and not make that money when you can go somewhere and start and make that money. And so I'm not saying that's the decision for everyone, but I think what we're seeing because of NIL and RevShare is the talent is spreading out. Now, there's some schools that just, you know, they're going to have 40 million.

It doesn't matter. They'll be able to collect everybody. But that's maybe eight to 10 schools. The rest, everybody else, they all have about the same pool of money. So it's really about who's the smartest using their money. So I think you're seeing talent spread out. You're seeing guys take advantage of opportunities. And that's why it's really cool to see these young quarterbacks play because if everyone only play,

fifth year transfers, the position of quarterback in college is going to get worse because we're not going to play young players. And wait to you see what Dylan's going to be like later this year, next year. The more he plays, the better he gets. And if he was sitting, you know, right now, he would just be, he would just be a guy. But because he's playing, he's developing into one of the best players in college football in my mind in a high, high draft. I love that you're forecasting. Wait until you see Dylan next year. Just from what we've seen from what he's developed from day one to now and what he went through last season. And you've been, being pretty transparent about what happened and I think him also doing that as a true freshman

coming in because it was a big conversation whenever he chose to come to Nebraska. Now obviously has family ties up there, his dad on the staff and you obviously an incredible coach who have an NFL tie as well. But him choosing Nebraska and then starting and being a star and then you guys haven't guys scored touchdowns without cleats on. Like it's great for I think for you to showcase too. Like, hey, you come here, have success. We have success. We flip this entire program, then you can kind of, your culture's already put in place. That's a good place to be. And hopefully you're going to get there soon. Yes, sir. Yeah. When Dylan decided to come here, it sent a message to everybody that,

hey, this is a place to be. And then all of a sudden, you watch. Now you look in our future recruiting classes, you know, now you start to get the five star kids. Now you start to get the high four star kids. And we still always want to find the right kids for us. We're not just going off of rankings. But the best players in the country now know, like, wait, there's a, there's a hidden gem out there in Lincoln, Nebraska. and now they come out and visit, they check it out. But when the top players in the country choose us, like Dylan did, it sends a real message, and it makes us make Nebraska cool again.

That's what we're trying to do. That's what you guys are helping us do, and it's happening. Hey, we're lucky to be a part of it, dude. And whenever you talk about if you get somebody there and experience it, I assume they fall in love with the place. Your people fall in love with it. And as Coach Saban says, you pay the wrong guys, you shit out of luck. And it feels like you've got to pick the right guys.

Now, on that note, your guys, you're always coaching. always developing? Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Coach, it feels like, you know, we've talked about it today. Every game in the Big Ten is tough. Every game in, you know, the SEC is tough, but sometimes there are upsets. And UCLA, you know, Ty talked about with the travel, with Penn State and everything. The UCLA upset over Penn State, I mean, that was a 21-point spread. That is a massive upset. And then, you know, Texas and Florida a little different, but still, I think people expected Texas to win in some capacity. Do you show your teams these upsets or, you know, kind of the unexpected results at the end of the week just to kind of hammer home how often

teams get got when they're not ready to play, no matter who they're playing, whether it is, you know, primetime Saturday night or, you know, Saturday at noon, you know. Do you show your teams those things? Every week. Every week. And here's why. Like, example, used to our guys is if I say hey guys let's go out for a hey we're going to go out and you know do a little running and I say okay take off the guys will take off running well that turns out to be like a 20 mile run they're not going to be ready for they didn't expect it right so a lot of these games what happens is the teams are looking at this you know team B and they're like well they're not very good okay it's going to be like this type of a game and then you show up and that team happens to

have their mind right that week and all sudden that you know 10 minute run becomes a 20 mile run in your mind and you're not ready for so we want our guys to expect that every team we face is going to play their best game. And, I mean, like, how does Illinois lose 6310? No disrespect. I mean, they come back to next week and they beat USC. Like, that's such a good example of just, like, the mindset, the things that happen each and every week. So I want my team to say to themselves, every team is going to be on 100 when they play against us.

They're going to be at their absolute best. So we better expect that and be at our absolute best. There's nothing worse than having a team that thinks it's going to be easy because the many you think it's easy, man, If you don't show up for a street fight, you get punched in the face. You're not ready. And that's college football right now. The talent is more spread out. There's more noise out there.

The kids hear this team's not that good. It's an easy win. And they start to expect it. And nothing's easy in today's college football. 18 to 22 year olds mostly dealing with that as well. And also we got school and life. And then you mentioned social media. It's like they see and hear everything.

Keeping that age group all aligned. Going in one way is a tough task. And it seems like you're doing it out there in Nebraska. Hell yeah. Everything's still in front of your team. We can't wait to ride alongside of you. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. Good luck in Maryland.

Thank you, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, that's the head coach of the Nebraska Cornhusker football team and also the host of House Rules. That is. My role. Talk about stepping up. Bye!

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