The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1428 - FIRST 15: NFL Week 6 Recap

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys break down the biggest storylines of week 6 of the NFL season in the FIRST 15. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We've been doing something that's now become a full-time segment, it feels like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Where we get a breakdown of top five headlines coming out of the week of NFL Sunday football, and we call it the first 15. Now, we put a 15-minute clock on the screen. I don't know if you know this, D, but we put a 15 because it's like 15 minutes is what we're hoping it would take. Sure.

First 15, though, is indicative of the first 15 plays that are scripted for an offense. So this is basically our scripted portion of the show. This is the first 15, then we'll react to how the stories go. It's driven by Rand, but this has become a real thing, Darius J. Buck. Yeah, I mean, we obviously do great with scripted things, so we've been Nell it right on this 15-minute mark every week, so hopefully we stick to it. Yeah, that's the thing, is we have the blocks, just every word is in there.

And that's why whenever you say, hey, once go ahead and start that 15, we know that we're going to get this accomplished. Let's start the 15-minute clock, and let's go to number five headline coming out of the weekend. Was Herbert the right pick all along? You go back to that draft, obviously, two ago. got picked four. Herbert gets picked five. Who goes number one overall? Joe Burrow. And after what we just saw from Justin Herbert and what we're expecting from his entire career, how he handles himself off the field, how he's built, how he's been able to kind of navigate so many different

transitional periods of such a young career already with different offense coordinators, different buildings, you name it. Now he's got hardball and Harbaugh might make this guy become goat. There's a chance Justin Herbert has greatest of all time conversation whenever it's all said done 10, 15 years because of how incredibly athletic he has been. He leads another comeback for the Chargers against the Miami Dolphins. Let's go to the third quarter. Finds his boy Lodge McConkey.

They will have a big one later in the game, but they seemingly on the same pitch. He extends the player, rolls to his right, drops an absolute dime debut before he hits Kamani Vital. This man out of Troy, he was a third team All-American two years ago becomes a sensation for this Los Angeles Chargers team. And once again,

Justin Herbert's doing it all. This guy's a magic man. It's not just deep shot. and layups. He's also hitting the intermediate shots. 10 to 20 yards, he has more yards than anybody else in the NFL. So whenever you talk about methodically breaking down a defense, Justin Herbert's doing it all. And then let's go late to the game. Two of answers.

Two, fourth quarter, 50-some seconds left. Top play. Got to put it on. Sports Center. Darren Waller always open whenever he's a Miami Dolphin. Toa Tongvaloa has his moment. Yeah? Holy hell. Tootong Veloa just drove back

on Justin Herbert. I was the pick all along. This is going to be a great day to be a Miami Dolphin. Holy hell. Well, Naim Hines got a kickoff return. He took that thing out. And then all of a sudden, Justin Herbert had the opportunity to do a play that's going to be etched in Harbaugh's memory forever. That play would be burned in my mind for, uh, until they throw dirt over top of me. Justin Herbert back to throw, the defender wrapped around him, just mighty man it. McConkey, Lad does his stop, fly by, and starts getting that necessary yardage. And here comes Zion Johnson flying ahead of Lad.

Gets that block shield, and, you know, there's another 20. Yeah, I'm going to remember that play until they throw dirt over top of me. That's how great I feel about that. Hardball says, hey, when they got that mahogany and then they put the dirt and then I no longer got life and soul and breath, I'm going to remember that. one and talk about that one because this could be season defining play for this Chargers team. If they were to win this

game against Miami Dolphins, which is so damn improbable, I actually got some stats about how the probability was before that play, during that play, and after that play on win percentages. And I'll be honest, if I was better at reading what the hell of these stats meant and how it was actually anywhere near or not bullshit, I would have certainly said it. But nonetheless,

that was improbable. That was something wasn't supposed to happen. And instead, they come together. And you heard Harbaugh talk about in Zion Johnson, Extra Block. about the culture. Yep, sure. Ladd McConkey doing his thing, mighty man Herbert doing his thing, and then it leads to Cameron Dicker. And this man, has he missed? No, he hasn't. He'd make this 14 of 14 on the year. There were four and two, there were some times earlier in the season where we thought maybe this Harbaugh-Harbour team was going to be crap. Maybe they were going

to be shite. Maybe this all build-up that we're talking about, $300, 400, $400 million in a brand-new practice facility out there in Los Angeles. Maybe it was all a waste of money. Maybe this team is going to be the same old chargers every single time. And now, up on the Dolphins with less than 35 seconds left in the game? We're saying was Herbert the number one overall pick all along? Is this the team that's going to go on a run? We shall see in an AFC that is seemingly wide open, except for at the very tippet, tippet top. D. Butch, you've been on the Chargers for a few years now because you love Justin Herbert.

What have you seen from him this season or just in this game that makes you believe maybe the Chargers do win the whole damn thing? And their Chargers faithful would obviously love him. Yeah, I mean, it's been since he's been in the league, honestly. And this is, it had a part of that stat up there on the graphic 18 game winning drives only behind Patrick Mahomes since coming into the league. So he's never been an issue. You kind of mentioned it, all the different offensive coordinators, the different head coaches. We know that Jim Harbaugh is a winner.

He builds winners wherever he goes. So he's put the right team around him, the right play callers. Everything's kind of going right now as far as the question, if he was the right pick, you know, it's kind of revisionist history. Whoa, no. Joe Burrow, obviously, he's a Heisman winner. He was a no-brainer one pick, been to a Super Bowl already, has playoff wins. Tua, look, a lot of the league were tanking for Tua at one point now. He did have the major hip injury that caused some concerns and questions.

But Herbert has been doing everything right since coming into the league, but he's still got to win in the playoffs, just like Tua does. So I'll hold off on that. Is he the right pick? But he's been doing everything right this year so far. Certainly gave us an opportunity to say it in Robin and Gumpi's face. And that is the only reason why we did this. Now let's go to because he hates it.

Oh, everybody's a genius now. Okay. Because he says pasta and water helps him with concussions. Now all of a sudden, everybody would have drafted Herbert. Okay. Okay, yeah, it's a dolphin's fault.

Okay, bunch of knobs. Losing it. That's exactly. Who win number two, Edra? Chase. Yeah, Chase Young. And then Akuta. Yep.

And then Tua and then Justin Herbert. Joe Burrow. Okay. Chase, Akuda. Tua, Herbert. And Tom Telesco, who's general manager of the Chargers, said, whoever the Dolphins picks, cool with us. Yep.

We're just going to another guy. But we wanted Herbert all along. He's what he kind of said. But everybody did kind of have Tua slotted there. Joey Burrow obviously has the year that he has done there at LSU and his slits himself as the Ohio kid. He's going to be the number one overall pick. Then there was a little chatter.

Maybe, now that we know the business a little bit better, that's potentially from the agents of Tua and Herbert maybe. I don't want to put it on anybody saying he's going to say no. He won't get, he will turn down the Cincinnati Bengals if they were to draft him number one overall. Do you remember that entire conversation? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think we were even like, well, what if this guy?

You know, because what the Bengals were? He probably should have looking back on it. Whoa. That's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and we will talk about them later. Cincinnati Bengals aren't in a great spot, but I do appreciate the fact that Joe Flack got hot late. He did. And Jamar Chase started doing his damn thing.

It's fun to watch. They're exciting. They're explosive. Is it a winning brand of football? We shall see. We talk about it. Was he the right pick all along? too obviously gets drafted to the Miami Dolphins and he kind of go ahead five and six yeah sorry five and six

two gets drafted one ahead of Justin Herbert he yikes that's on me should have known that exact number there going in but nonetheless so that leads to uh some we like to call number four headline of the weekend tough scenes oh no hmm oh no we literally just talked about twoa okay twoa had that game winner less than a minute left yeah unbelievable to stop defense yeah yeah get a stop Get a stop. Get a stop. Tua has game-winning drive in final minute of fourth quarter against Justin Herbert. Could be narrative.

Could be story. That could be number five. It could be. He was the right pick. Oh, yeah. Two was the right. All along. All along.

That could have been that entire thing. But instead, Herbert, Ladd, Zion Johnson, Cameron Dicker, the whole team we hear it, we see it. And then that leads to a post game that is not a positive one about a last minute game-winning touchdown drive. Instead, it's about, hey, what's the state of the culture? And, Tua, I don't know if this was prepared or not. I think, personally, decided to utilize this as a time to speak to his teammates. You know, like coaches talk to their locker room through the media sometimes. They'll get messages through the media to their players.

Well, my guys know that they're not going to England to see Paris. Like, that's a message through the media that they're hoping gets to the players. Our offense, obviously, wasn't nice together. That's a message they're trying to get to the play. Trying to set the tone maybe before the first team meeting. Like, hey, here's this. I'm trying to, it's been happening since the beginning of time. I think Tula tried to do that through the media to talk to his team and to his locker room.

Just what he chose to say, everybody's saying, the worst thing you could probably say is the quarterback, the leader of the team. Yeah. Well, I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys. and then what we're expecting out of the guys, right? We're expecting this. Are we getting that? Are we not getting that?

We have guys showing up to player-only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player-only meetings. Like, there's a lot that goes into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory? So it's a lot of things of that nature that we've got to get cleaned up, and it starts with the little things like that. So I think, too, in his eyes,

in his mind, and probably trying to be a good quarterback for this team. And then things aren't happening. And he decides to kind of air his teammates out through the media.

Every ex-player has spoken about this and said, this is a terrible decision. This is not how you should go about doing this, especially if you're not a winning program and have a winning thing going.

He owned up to throwing three interceptions, but that's a part of it. He did say we, whenever he said team leadership, so he's putting himself in there saying we got to do a better job. So he does take a little bit

of accountability. but throwing your teammates under the bus for things that nobody even knows that your teammates are doing yet. You've got to present a situation, and I say, but in this situation, they're doing terrible things. It's just not a good thing in the locker room is what everybody has been saying, basically. Yeah, and that's very, very brave of you trying to get into his brain and trying to think what he's thinking. Dude, pasta, pizza, and water? Yeah. I mean, that's his brain, right?

You know. Every team is different. Some people may be confused out there with the difference between, like, players-only meetings, you know, those kinds of. to come to Jesus moment, kind of like a player-led meeting. So in my experience, our players-only meetings during the season was like the units, like defensive unit, like back seven, no defensive line, but after Friday, we get done with practice and we go over 15, 20-play script maybe of what the team likes to do, and we go over our communications. Down left, hey, nickel-left, nickel-right, all those different things. I'm sure offenses do

similar things. So those are the things that he's talking about. I would assume players not showing up to. And the only people that can police that are the players, the best. That's team as you've been on, I would guarantee the players kind of police the room. So I don't know what his point was, kind of getting that out there. But I would say less talking from Tool will be better going for, in my opinion. It does seem like every time we hear something from the Dolphins, we find something like, this team is stupid. Yeah.

This team has not run. Your South Florida boy, Gumpy, obviously, you've been riding this alongside of him. McDaniel, his little tag on his shoe last week. Yeah, that should have been the coup de grace. But once again, minute left, game winning drive. Against the chargers, which everybody has. They had that. And then all of a sudden, mighty band does his thing.

That wasn't the only tough scene. Obviously, we all woke up with it yesterday. And to London, we don't like to do this off into England because, you know, a lot of stuff. But we will like to apologize for that game. Yeah. Okay, that game was... Hand up. That was tough.

Yeah, it's on us to hit for you guys having that one. And I think there's been a lot of bad games. Hembo sent me a stat, though, that basically said that was. far the worst one. I mean, the 20 combined first downs in yesterday's London game were seven fewer than any international game in NFL history. This was by far the worst one of all time. So we'd like to say, eh, governor, sorry about it. But on that note, a ridiculous thing happened right before half that you guys won't often get to see. Right before half, people were saying it's a tough scene. Aaron Glenn, obviously first year head coach, former defensive coordinator

from Detroit lines doesn't normally have to deal with all the situational shit on the defensive side of the ball probably has somebody in his game situation camp that is in his ear has his year no timeouts obviously it starts with like 20 some seconds on the clock that's fourth and one okay so this is a tough situation for a team to be in okay especially if your quarterback at the time uh was 17 yards he had thrown for okay 17 yards in the half and at the end of the game would end up with a net negative 10 yards pass passing, and the reason why it's negative 10 yards is because sacks count against your pass yards, they gave up nine sacks for negative 55 yards. He only passed for 45 or 47 yards. So you start

doing some math. They had negative net. So Aaron Glenn, I think, wasn't 100% confident that they were going to be able to pick up maybe two yards to get a first down there on a quick out. Everybody's like, hey, fourth and one, you only need one yard here. There's no timeouts or playing off coverage. Okay, we'll throw a quick out, pick up a first down. Will we? We've thrown for 17 yards in that. Aaron Glenn's trying to figure that out in real time. It's not really a situation that comes up on a very regular basis. Because if you give them the ball right there, you pick up four or five yards.

That's a field goal. So it's like this could be a real swing. Tough situation. Obviously mismanaged. And then Garrett Wilson comes out afterwards because I have no idea what the plan was. And I heard what the plan was. I was this point at all. I don't love it.

But there was one answer, we think. Like every team is going to talk about this situation around the league. do think there was an answer. Yeah, they're short around the league, but I think it was just a hell mirror. And you get to that point. And to your, like, we just saw a first year head coach kind of learned something in real time. We always hear head coach and say, hey, there is no manual that comes with it. And it's easy for us, especially once the half is over to say what we got to say.

But yeah, you just got to throw the hell Mary there, give yourself a chance to get something positive there. But it has to be last play of head. Got to be last play. Yeah, that ball's getting snapped, three seconds, four seconds or whatever. And if you wanted to do the out, you would have to do like six, five seconds. so that maybe you get one more play. If you want to get it closer, maybe kick a field goal, get a little bit closer there.

But if you drop that or don't complete that, they got to play. They got to play and I'll go any other way. There was a lot going on. But I think with how shite the game was, that situation happening, and it being the Jets franchise, just kind of, this is a clown show.

Why is this what we would send to London, kind of rude of us? Yeah. It also wasn't even just that last play. Like, their whole, that whole drive, like Kurt Warner was losing his mind for the entire two minutes. It was, yeah.

Yes, the last player, but the whole drive was a weird situation. Aaron Glenn was then asked afterwards if Justin Fields are still going to be the quarterback. And he had a little bit of a reaction about how dumb of a question that was. Basically, he has come out since then and said this. You know what? Here's what, you know, I thought about this a lot last night. I thought about the question that was asked. And when you look at what Justin did, the games that he played, I didn't think he was bad at all.

I actually thought he did some pretty good things in those four games. in this fifth game, he took a step back. You know, and I'm with you guys 100%. And we can't have that. You know, we have to get better than that. And he knows that. And he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I don't think you just try to bench a player after having one true bad game

because I thought the other games he played fairly well. Aaron Glenn's got his players back. I think that's what you're hearing right there. And I'd like to think that literally right before half, that whole thing, he was just trying to get to the locker room. I think he was just trying to get to the locker room, however the hell we can get to the locker. right now they're going to say the clock's on run to zero and we're going to be able to go inside if we don't do anything else let's do that let's get the hell out of here this denver bronco's defense is no joke story i mean they are on a historic run vance joseph right now is on pace for 85 sacks their defense which would crush the record of 72 obviously which is the previous record they're averaging five sacks per game and they have a 10 sack lead on the rest of the NFL right now okay so this jet's offense there certainly might be some question marks and justin field

might not be a top five quarterback in the NFL at this stage of his career or maybe ever in his career whenever it comes to, you know, delivering the ball and point guarding and everything like that. But I think this Denver Broncos defense is a defense that will expose you. I think they will expose whether or not you have a good quarterback or a good offense. So I think it's a good kind of thermostat or a kind of judgment, a good comp on how you're going to be. They're going to do that to a lot of teams that don't have great office.

Oh, yeah, great litmus test. Because when you go, it's not just a quarterback. It's the offensive coordinator. it's the offensive line, it's the running backs. Are you going to be able to protect? Because they're going to keep applying pressure, which a couple weeks ago, and they came and played the Colts,

and they came down that last second field goal, they blitz Daniel Jones, like 70% of his dropbacks and only sacked him once. So that lets you know how well the Colts are being coached, and how old Daniel Jones is playing the quarterback. On that note, let's go the number three headlines. Oh, we, boys, six weeks into the season, we see some MVP.

Oh, yeah. Oh, we see some out there. Now, there's a couple omitted, all right, if their team lost. Sure. So if your team lost, we weren't going to put them on here. Okay, and if their team almost got close to losing to Joe Flacco's team, we all know we didn't put them on here.

But I get it. Okay, so there's a couple of quarterbacks that are certainly in the running, especially whenever it comes to the odds if you're betting on them, but their teams didn't win, so we didn't put them up here. There's also a quarterback that's 40-plus years old that is not even on the odds, really. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers continue to win, they're four-and-one, they already have their buy. It's going to be a long road.

But if they end up 14 and 3, like whatever the case, If they just continue to do that, Aaron Rogers' name is definitely going to be up for MVP. I mean, if you want to sprinkle that right now, you can probably get some incredible odds on it. But we're seeing about six guys that got some big time dubs that we're appreciating and respecting their game. Baker Mayfield, let's go to number six, shall we?

This guy's awesome. This guy is awesome. Everything about him. Stock explodes through his upper body. And all Baker does is get up and say, yep, give me more of that. Give me more. His entire energy has radiated through the entire Tampa Bay area,

Not just obviously in the locker room. They love this dude. I love this dude. And it's been incredible to watch him explode. Top four wide receivers out. Who cares? Give me Ted Johnson out of Oregon, debutsch. I mean, some people who are chanting MVP after this guy scores a touchdown.

Maybe hit this flip as well. But yeah, what Baker is doing right now, man, anybody that has that Buccaneer shit on, player, coach, training staff, fans, everybody associated with this team right now is buzzing because of what number six is doing, back regardless of who's out there lined up with him. So shout out to him leading his team to a five and one start. And all of them have been kind of close games that he had to find a way to win. At the beginning, you had no tackles. Right?

At the beginning of the season had no tackles. Now they got no wide receivers. How they do. And Ted's hitting that high-ya. And the geez Louise moment of the weekend was him going, man, I only do. This is Ted Johnson after the game about what was being chanted about. I'm going to tell you how a funny story.

This is great. When I score, and I hit MVP chant, I'm thinking they're talking about me. So I asked Shep. I'm like, shit, they were chatting MVP. He was like, yeah, I was like, I ain't do nothing this year. And then he was like, they're talking about Baker Tess. I was like, well, that explains it. But he is MVP.

The one he got the first down on. Well, that explains it. He is the MVP, though, man. That is incredible stuff. I love their team. I love the culture they have. Well, and even just like the third. throws are unbelievable. All this stuff is so good. And he's at the point now, just like the other

guys were like, hey, it doesn't matter who's out there. The third and 14 run is just like pure will to win. Yeah, like not every, it doesn't matter what quarterback you are. Like, I don't know who else is making this play. You can say Josh Allen and Mahomes and stuff. I mean, this is ridiculous. Just wanting to win, wanting the first down, just more. I mean, it's a one point game right now. and I don't know what down after it came. It was either the next play or a couple of plays after. That's what led to the Tess Johnson touchdown. It's just, and that's just a solo effort, unbelievable.

He really should win the MVP. I hope everybody just stays healthy on this list just because they are all playing great football. On that note, Baker, we're talking his shit immediately afterwards, understands the moment, been around. I think he's at his best case. Yeah, body language is insane for the rest of the team. Let's talk about another guy who's in the MVP conversation.

Drake May. Yeah. Hey, listen, Drake May is everything that I think Connor had hoped he would be. Connor talked about his greatness last year. They would be getting their asses beating. He'd say, hey, we got a guy, though. This quarterback's making four, five plays a game that make you say he understands what he's doing. They were talking about his footwork coming out of college.

He's going to be inaccurate. He's not going to be – he learned. He figured it out. He's not going to have to face – he's not going to be able to dissect the defenses. He's learned. He's figured it out. Is he going to be tough enough to take those hits? You know, he led North Carolina in rushing and passing one season.

Is he going to be able to rush in the NFL? He might be able to take away one of his things. He can. He runs people over. And he's seemingly always jovial. This guy's leadership is like, here we go, boys. He feels like he is a, here we go boys type guy, which I didn't know it was possible to win with. And then you team that up with Vrable.

And it's like, this is like the perfect match made in heaven up there. You guys got to be absolutely jacked that you have, dare I say it, a more handsome. A more athletic. What? Is he taller? I mean, I don't know. He's got to him. Today he is.

Today is. Is he tall? He impaired to Mac Jones? Yeah, he is. No. You better not even dare. Then Bailey dabby as same sentence as Matt Jones. Hi.

Just tall. Just let him finish. Let him finish. Let him go where he's going. Is this guy the 2025 younger generation? Oh, my God. More mobile version of Tom fucking Brady? Whoa.

That was going on in New England? He's handsome. Have you seen him? He's incredibly handsome. He's not handsome to Tom. Oh, I don't know. Well, which time are we talking about? Exactly.

We're talking about 24 years old right now. You have to go butt chin, Tom. Well, yeah, well, that's the thing. If we were just going to go like, hey, no work done to your body, yeah, Drake May is obviously better. But the other thing about Drake May is like he's already an adult. You know, he's 23 years old. But he's already married, the king and queen of New England. People are calling the new maze.

And it is unbelievable. Everything he does is great. Like, we can talk about him forever. I legitimately could talk about him forever, but something AQ kind of pointed out last week to me, Josh McDaniels coming back has been a huge reason for his success. Just the way the offense goes, it's very smooth. Debutt said to me before the show, like,

Drake May has entered the conversation where when he's throwing the ball and the ball leaves the screen and they got to track it, it doesn't matter. You know it's going to be some sort of good ball, some sort of, you know, right read. Everything he does is, perfect. I really don't know how it can get better than this. Winning the Super Bowl, of course, but this is the happiest, you know, and most excited I've

been about a football team with a football team since Tom Brady beating the Rams in the Super Bowl. Obviously, Vrable back, too, he's awesome. His dramatics on the sideline. I forgot about how spectacular they are. I guess these refs weren't necessarily on your guys' side down there. I don't think it's necessary for the first 15 because this needs to be its own 15, just about the referees and it's not really just about this game it's about the idea that if this referee crew was on a colts bills hey huge game deciding who the one seat is this was a pass interference call and you're going to say against the fond digs on the second 60 yard touchdown to pop

douglas and you're going to say oh well well where's the where's the flag this is what it was and i and i actually made dbutt look at it because dbutt actually knows football and i'm just a Patriots fan. But DeBud said, I don't get it. This is the worst call I've ever seen. If you actually watch the All-22, you can't see when the flag is thrown. And both teams had their special teams units on the field. That's not the play. Both teams had their special teams units on the field for the extra point because they already celebrated. The defense already walked off. The offense already walked off. And then they called the passenger fear. And so I don't know who the crew is. I'm glad that the Patriots won. Just because I

I didn't have to come on here today and say, hey, Roger Goodell, there are seven terrorists that work for the NFL, and they're wearing black and white stripes, and they refereed the game in New Orleans yesterday. This is the play. And for some reason, again, you're not going to see a flag. It's not going to pop up on the broadcast. It's not going to show on the bottom.

Touchdown, celebration. Incredible play. Look at Drake May, too. In the pocket. Oh, yeah, he is bad feet. That matters. Strike! And then a touchdown.

But instead it gets called back for a passenger fear. So again, this is more so... The past interference is 10 yards on the field on the sideline we just showed with Stefan Diggs, just because it's getting him worked up here. Unbelievable. Stefan Diggs was 30, 40 yards away from the play. I mean, he is nowhere near the play.

And even if he was right on top of the play, people would argue that this right here, you're going to call offensive pass interference right there. I don't know if that's the thing. And then the timing of it happening late, you have to think to yourself, wait, are they working against the Patriots? And then this empowers the Patriots even more, by the way.

Oh, yeah. Frable's on the sideline trying to talk to this rep, nobody's list. There's a shot of Frable's. head just going back mind blown by the officials and then for them to get a win there all the mass holes just

oh they're against us again oh they're against us again they're trying to hold it they don't want to see it again that's what the New England Patriots fans feel like now we can't talk about Drake May the entire time even though we should think about it Sam Donald also former Minnesota Vikings quarterback and obviously everybody remembers

he's time in New York not going great well with the Seattle Seahawks this dude has become a guy for their entire organization Remember, they're moving on. Jackson Smith and Jigba has like a bunch of records right now. He is absolutely crushing. Him and Sam Darnold have crushed since the beginning. In Jigba, by the way, is a Sierra Leone name. I believe his grandfather came to the United States of America. It's a story that we read online is accurate. And the American that took him in basically, his last name was Smith. So his name is Jackson Smith in Jigba. In Jigba is his grandfather's name from Sarah Leone. And Smith is the, I forget the name. Do you remember the name? Sponsor or whatever it was coming in there. That's there because we looked it up because it's like such a cool name.

It is a great. Jackson Smith and Jigba is a cool name. The story also awesome. His family story is incredible. And what he's doing with Donald, outrageous. They just let him out of the building over there in Minnesota. I wonder if they thought it was just going to be a one-hit wonder.

Sam Donald's all the way back and McDonald loves him. Yeah, he's all the way back. He is third in the NFL in passing yards behind Stafford and Dak. He is fifth in touchdowns. He's got 11 touchdowns, the three interceptions. And these balls that you're seeing, like to JSN and Cooper Cup there, they are absolutely perfect. Like, there is nowhere else that you could throw these balls.

He's on fire right now, leading this offense with JSN, with Cooper Cup, with the tight end. Sam Darnold's playing really, really good football. Yeah, Sam Darnels in the MVP conversation. You know who else is here in Indianapolis? Danny Dine. Now, Danny Dimes can run and he can obviously spin it. That's why the Dimes name is out there.

They're calling him Indiana Jones because he saved our state. but I'll tell you whenever he's playing, he saved the Colts franchise as well. We're a very boring franchise. We had the capability of winning games, but it was going to be a grinded out type game. We have the ability now to win any style of game. You know, if it's going to be a dog fight, we can do it.

If it's going to be a shootout, for some reason, if our defense can't get stops, if our corners are maybe not able to be in the right place, if our corners are going to get knocked out of the game before the game even starts while doing a warm-up, a pretty huge shining for us. Doesn't even make it to game time because there's a miscommunication in warm-ups,

and he ends up getting a concussion before the game even starts. There's like a chance that maybe our defense isn't going to be able to get a stop. We were able to win. Now this is a sad moment. It can't happen. Boom. Bang. Ogletree, shoulder.

Mooney's head. Concussion. 11.50 a.m. Obviously, game kickoff at one. D. Bone and my mom were already at the game in the suite that we have. They sent a text to just people gathered around somebody, had no idea if somebody maybe fell, heard it was a concussion, wondered if maybe some of football. was punted and hit him in the head because in those pre-pre-workout, there is like kind of a

rules of engagement on how it all goes, which I think is what a lot of people are questioning with Scherverius Ward and Ogletree situation. There is kind of like an unwritten rules on how the pre-pre-pre-warm-up kind of works. Yeah, you usually probably the first one out there, first or second one out there with you and the kickers. But for us, you know, we go out there depending on home or away, like where do you warm up, who do you warm up with? But you got to be aware of where kind of other people are on the field. You see, you know, you got the fourth down Army snap, holder, and kicker. But as far as the coaches even throwing these, it was Ogletree and Ward.

So the coaches, you see the coaches where yard line they'd be on. So yeah, so both on the 30 yard line basically going in and they're throwing the ball. So I think them and the actual players want to got to be on the same pace to make sure you're not going out while I'm going in. You can't have something like this happen to any player, let alone your big time offseason $20 million year quarterback. on that note, I'm surprised more injuries don't happen in these situations. Just after seeing it, I was

like, I was like, man, I don't know why I didn't ever think that this could possibly happen. I mean, I almost sniped Tim Tebow from like 75 yards away. That would have been those were the toughest ones. The punts? Yeah, when you got punts coming from and returns. Yeah, kicks. But when you're throwing the ball, like, we all remember the pregame

with, was it, Tucker or Bucker? Oh, Travis? Yeah. And then Travis and then, so like, you're kind of aware of who's warming up So you got to be aware, obviously, where you're a ball. And you have more control of the ball that's being thrown than the ball that's being kicked. But that shit can't happen. In the Anthony Richardson thing along, like, I'm like, what the, before all of the, some

details came out, you're like, what the hell is going on with the coach pre-game warmer? But all that being said. I think the Anthony Richardson, I think he was using a band and then something, I think the band pulled something, like from what I, because band, you immediately think, I had a friend whenever I was growing up playing soccer, I was a teenager, who was getting band work in, thing snapped, came back, hit him in, like, ripped his hamstring. Oh, that shit. The metal thing, like, came and hit him.

He, like, I had to get surgery. He was out. He was a very good player, too. Like, I don't know. I was, like, 14 years old. I think it was the very beginning of, like, band, like, treatment, I think, to what happened? I had no idea. Teenagers were using him. And he's like, yeah, he's out or whatever. What happened? Like, band snapped, snapped over his hamstring. It's like, oh, my God, that's scary as hell. I'm a big band user guy, but there is always a fear that the band's going to snap and you're going to get one. Yeah. So I thought that was immediately what is. I guess that wasn't the kid. I guess that

there's potentially something, I don't know, orbital bone. I mean, he was in the hospital. Yeah, that's not good. Shavarvarez Ward. And then Marvin Harrison, Jr., his head smacked off the turf really hard. He got taken in to the tent. And then there was a special teamer, I don't know his name. I should know his name for the Arizona Cardinals.

He got carted off with a neck, like he had a neck incident. They took the face mask off the helmet. They took a face mask off the helmet. He was kind of, he was strapped down to the cart, and they took them off. And it was like, damn, that looks very, very scary. I guess they released him from the hospital. He flew back with the team.

But yesterday, there was a lot happening at that Indianapolis Colts game. And on that note, Colts were able to get a win. A lot going on, able to get a win. That Arizona Cardinals team, Jacoby was spinning it. Oh, yeah. Jacoby was spinning it, absolutely. But Danny Dimes gets it done. Also, Patrick Mahomes, he's come back into the scene and said, oh, yeah, you forgot about me.

You have. You have forgot about me. The Kansas City Chief's offense has obviously looked much better over the past few weeks than it had for maybe a year and a half or so. And I think if you listen to the Kansas City Chiefs people where people talk about what the Kansas City Chiefs are saying, they feel better about their team now at this point of the season than they did last year.

And last year, they got to the Super Bowl. They got Rishie Rice coming back. So they still got the little trick-em, you know, slick-em-type operation. Patrick Mahomes is doing Patrick Mahomes stuff, but they got another weapon coming back who's very fast and very tough to get. So if you think about what Worthy's been able to do,

and Travis Kelsey seemingly back to being Travis Kelsey, Pacheco running this thing. Jujo Smith-Schuster, he's in the middle of some stuff. I guess after the game. Obviously, with Brian Branch, that was a wild scene. I don't think any of us could have expected that. But if you think about where this Chief's team is headed,

it's like Patrick Mahomes' MVP conversations are about four or five weeks away from being full-throated, brother. I mean, that is going to be coming around the corner. Yeah, they're coming, and they're coming big time. Because a lot of the, you know, talk, at least on, like, the Internet around Mahomes is this guy's a baby. All he does is bait people and then pout to the refs. Mahomes is getting blasted week in and week out

and like under his own volition. Like he's running and seeking out contact. So if you were, you know, thinking that like Mahomes maybe thought everything was too sweet, like, no. He just, I think they kind of reminded everybody last night, like, hey, we're not dead. We can hit that next gear when we need to. And yeah, I mean, once they actually get fully healthy here, look out for the chiefs and Mahomes, too, because he's heard everything everyone's saying. And this is not a good thing, but he also leads the team in rushing as well.

Yeah, and the rushing goes back to Ty's point. He took like three shots to the back on one play. last night right at the first down marker and he just like kept going and then gets right up takes a big time shot gets up i think hutch hit him late yeah hutch hit him late he got right back up it's like patrick mahomes has a lot of dog in him i think he's reminding everybody yeah shit is sweet i own soccer team i own yeah part of the royal i own baseball team my resume's already in go conversation i'm a dog though who still drinks cores lights and it feels like they're getting better and better the lions are you guys completely out on yourselves

after losing that game no everything's a okay that was more about the chiefs and the lines. We'll bounce back next week. Well, what about Brian Branch afterwards? That doesn't feel like an MCD. No. No, and that's really funny to bring that up because everyone's calling Brian Branch selfish, but I really think what he was doing was a favor to everyone that's ever wanted to smack juju in the movie.

We should be thanking Brian Brin. That is not how this works. You know, what's so funny, Dee Buck? I didn't expect it. It's a good for us. Thanks, me. Thank you, Brian. Help me here. Thank you, Brian. Love you, Brian. Now, on that note,

MCDC came out and said, this ain't us man this will be this is we don't cheap shot people juju going yeah what up screaming at sideline and oh what up branch how you doing man i just got pretty good block on he about three minutes ago you saw bang it boom so branch came out and said there there was a member he's blinds had and there was a block whatever the case this is not good for ball especially with two of our best teams that can't happen this yeah all of this can't happen you know what's that getting cost on your bag yeah i mean what brand branch obviously that can't happen he pulled his ears too when he was that's bush league but if you're juju and you decide he was

kind of in the moment there. Do I lay here on the ground? I don't know. I got to get up. Games over. I'm not getting the flag. So he came and attacked him. But you already have a teammate on him. You then can't get manhandled by Brian Branch with one arm when you're coming. So that's a bad look for Juju. He was bleeding. It was rough for him. So it wasn't good. And you don't want, this is a black eye for NFL, for the NFL in general. So Dan Campbell, I'm sure he addressed it with Brian Branch before he went and spoke to the media as well.

But, yeah, I'll be interested to see how they handle this with Brian Branch because he, is kind of in that Draymond Green kind of category when it comes to being fine having different things going between and after the whistle. So I hope they don't suspend it, but we'll see. I'm sure, at least a hefty fine, maybe even a suspension. I agree. There's probably going to be

a lot because the NFL cannot have this happen. I mean, fights after games used to happen back in the play. Look at the camera. Camera people. Camera people. Incredible work getting out of there. Honestly, that's an ACL to a camera person. I mean, there's big bodies going in there. Patrick Mahomes ends up in the bottom of this pile, which once again goes back to us,

Patrick Mahal. Okay, he's willing to jump in the bottom of this pile. Don't love that this fight is happening. Ref's already gone. Game's over. We're out of here. This game's over. We're reffing for 60 minutes. You guys handle your shit. Security gets in there. Coaches get in there. It was full mayhem. These are two of our best teams. Obviously, it's very emotional. It's a physical sport. It's a tough sport. And then the fireworks go off and say, hey, we get a big time win. Number two, storyline is the Chiefs is still the Chiefs. And the number one storyline is the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. Okay. So that is all you need. Boom, bang.

And Jonathan Taylor, this guy. Wow. I know we got him in the first round. He might be worth a couple now. He might be worth a couple now. He ain't going nowhere. He might be wearing a couple of those right now. This guy is great.

He's exceptional. Well, he is unbelievable. His celebration is sick. I got people mocking it from the other team. He's seemingly untackable. The offense aligns all over the place. Danny Dimes put him in the right positions. In our defense, yesterday, couldn't get a damn stop.

Okay? Once again, one of our guys got taken up before the game. even started yeah okay that's a big piece literally you find out an hour and ten minutes before the game he's not able to play why what how is you he'll hope he's okay something well he actually just got hit by ober tree and shoulder eight an elbow what do you mean

kick cuss yeah out it was bad where it was on who you're around like 35 yard line out there boom it's over so whenever that happens right for the game obviously it's not easy the colts get a huge win and obviously we need to go going forward need that not happen joining us now ladies a gentleman is a man who might have

more information on that and everything else that happened around the NFL. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan, man. Ladies and gentlemen, tough one against USC. Adam Schaefter. Hey, Eddie. Hey. Hi, guys.

Shefti, sorry, we made you wait there. Had to get to the bottom of everything. The ward injury. I am a pre-warm-up person because I'm a punter. Punters and kickers are out there a lot. I'm surprised that more injuries don't happen, legit after watching this. But it is kind of organized chaos, usually.

What is the update here? We assume he'll be back, or is just protocol going to do what the protocol is going to do? Well, he's in protocol now, and typically when you miss one game, there's a real chance you miss another one. So that collision could cost him two games there. He went down, stayed down. I mean, that's scary when you see something like that happened. And to see him inactive before the game like that, I don't recall a team losing a player in pregame warmups, no less two players to significant injuries.

Obviously, Ward had the concussion there, and Anthony Richardson fractured his orbital. bone stretching with a band of some sort. So I don't know whether he was stretching his hamstring or his shoulder, his arm, whatever it was, snapped back and fractured his orbital bone. So he's going to miss time now, too. So that's crazy pre-game warmups. And I always think that those are signs of things to come. And of course, Colts had a tough time with the Cardinals, but they prevailed in the end and played

well enough to win. Okay. Yes, they did prevail. Yeah. Okay. And maybe we do have the worst optics for a stadium whenever that roof and windows. was open for a one o'clock game in October, but I want to let you know whenever you're in there, it feels so cool. It feels so cool. There's a nice little breeze every once in a while that comes

out of the sky. The football gods bless you a little bit. But I can see how on TV you would stink. And also, I assume the camera people do not love having to adjust this every single quarter as they go forward. But nonetheless, it was rocking in Indianapolis. It's