The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1428 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 6 Recap, MNF Doubleheader Preview, Adam Schefter, Heather Dinich, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 6 of the NFL including the Colts continuing to look like a Super Bowl contender, the Chiefs announcing they are still the Chiefs, some coaches on the hot seat and the breaking news that Brian Callahan has been fired by the Tennessee Titans, before previewing tonight’s Monday Night Football doubleheader. Joining the progrum to give some updates on injuries, preview the trade deadline, go through some overreactions from the internet, and preview tonight’s Monday Night Doubleheader, is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, ESPN College football analyst, Heather Dinich joins the show to chat about James Franklin getting fired by Penn State and what their plans may be, Indiana’s continued upward trajectory, and her thoughts on the CFP as of right now. Later, Dan Orlovsky joins the show from Atlanta where he’s calling tonight’s MNF game between the Bills and Falcons, his thoughts on both games tonight, his biggest takeaway’s from week 6 in the NFL, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble the Boat, the Thunderdown. On this magical, Overreaction Monday, October 13, 2025, this program begins right now. Football! It's the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. There's so much to talk about, and also, there's two Monday night football games tonight. That's right. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman will be on the call on ABC, and our friend Dan Orlovsky, who will be joining us in the second hour, will be on with Fowler. Fowler and Lewis Riddick Bills at Falcon 715

with Dano on the call. Bears at commanders. The Buffalo Bills could become the third team in the NFL to be five and one at this state of the season. Who are the other teams? Oh, the Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. It's been a fun time over here. We're definitely going to chitch out about that as we forecast to what's ahead this evening. We also have

Adam Schefter joining us in about 15 minutes or so at 25 minutes, maybe 30 minutes from now after the first 15 whenever he chit chats about all the things that happened yesterday that we need to think about going ahead and also before we make our bets tonight. Now, I haven't been seeing the NFL field or board that will. Okay, now, and the public has been getting their ass kick. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don! Cowboys AP Tone, the public continues to lose whenever we're all on one side of something, right?

Yeah, this weekend, the public showed up and went two and five against the spread when 60% or more was on a certain side for the season. That is now 15 and 35. I believe if my math is correct. So I got to stop being an idiot that just follows the wave of everybody else. I got to start seeing the field a little bit differently whenever it comes to the NFL. I'm close to 500, but boy, it's been under for a while. In college, though, man, we've been doing pretty good. We've been doing pretty good.

We've been swinging a hot bat in college. That's because I think we've been getting a chance to kind of feel and experience it a little bit more and more boots on the ground. We've got to continue to do that for the NFL as we live this glorious 2025 season that has been living up to the hype both in college. I think even high school football. I don't know if you've been seeing us. I've been seeing high school kickers hit like 62-yard field goals, 63-yard field goals, 55-yard field goals. I've been seeing highlights from quarterbacks across.

Football has been showing up for us in a big way, and this overreaction Monday should do the same for all of you, we hope. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Calm man, love that we got the New England. We're all patriots here, quarter zip back on. Ty, I love, we got the Green Bay Packers hat on on this overreaction Monday. Got close? Yeah, too close for comfort.

You got clothes with flack. did it not? Yeah, I mean, almost everything that I said that kind of we were saying played out before my eyes on Sunday. But listen, hey, I know how hard it is going to win in this league, and that's what the Packers did, despite Joe Flacco, you know, turning back the book about 10 years and looking like himself in 2015. Yeah, especially in the fourth quarter late.

It becomes a one-score game, and it's like, wait a second. Joe Flacco's got this figured out if they're able to get a stop, which we don't know if it's going to be possible. Trey Hendrickson gets hurt. Yeah. Has a little back injury. He's out. Obviously, that's a big storyline before the trade deadline on what this Kansas, our Cincinnati

Bengals team is, but they get back into this, Green Bay Packers escape with a win, they should be pumped about it. We move on to another day past Joey Flack. Nine-year NFL vet, host of everything DB, good, D-Baddy, Darrys, Jay Butler. Good, D-Boch. A lot happened in the football world. A lot happened in the football world. On these Overreaction Mondays, we've been doing something that's now become a full-time segment, it feels like. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Where we get a breakdown of the week of NFL Sunday football, and we call it the first 15. Now, we put a 15-minute clock on the screen. I don't know if you know this, D. But we put a 15, because it's like 15 minutes is what we're hoping it would take. Sure. First 15, though, is indicative of the first 15 plays that are scripted for an offense. So this is basically our scripted portion of the show. This is the first 15.

Then we'll react to how the stories go. It's driven by Rand, but this has become a real thing, Darius J. Buck. Yeah, I mean, we obviously do great with scripted things. So we've been nelling right on this 15 minute mark every week. So hopefully we stick to it. Yeah, that's the thing is we have the blocks, just every word, is, is. in there and that's why whenever you say hey once go ahead and start that 15 we know that we're going to get this accomplished start to 15 minute clock and let's go to number five headline coming

out of the weekend was herbert the right pick all along you go back to that draft obviously two got picked four herbert gets picked five who goes number one overall joe burrow and after what we just saw from justin herbert and what we're expecting from his entire career how he handles himself off the field how he's built how he's been able to kind of navigate so many different of such a young career already with different offense coordinators, different buildings, you name it. Now he's got Hardball, and Harbaugh might make this guy become goat! There's a chance Justin Herbert has greatest of all time conversation whenever it's all said and done 10, 15 years because of how incredibly athletic he has been.

He leads another comeback for the Chargers against the Miami Dolphins. Let's go to the third quarter. Finds his boy Large McConkey. They will have a big one later in the game, but they seemingly on the same pitch. He extends the play, it rolls to his right, drops an absolute dime debut, before he runs. D-Butt before he hits Kamani Vital. This man out of Troy, he was a third team All-American two years ago, becomes a sensation for this Los Angeles Chargers team.

And once again, Justin Herbert's doing it all. This guy's a magic man. It's not just deep shots and layups. He's also hitting the intermediate shots. 10 to 20 yards, he has more yards than anybody else in the NFL. So whenever you talk about methodically breaking down a defense, Justin Herbert's doing it all. And then let's go late to the game, two answers.

Two, fourth quarter, 50-some seconds left. Top play. Gotta put it on Sport Center. Darren Waller, always open. Whenever he's a Miami Dolphin. Toot, Tung Voloa has his moment. Yeah? Holy hell, To a Tongva Loa just drove back on Justin Herbert.

I was the right pick all along. This is going to be a great day to be a Miami Dolphin. Holy hell. Well, Naim Hines got a kickoff return. He doked that thing out. And then all of a sudden, Justin Herbert had the opportunity to do a play that's going to be etched in Harbaugh's memory. forever. That play would be burned in my mind until they throw dirt over top of me. Justin Herbert

back to throw. Defender wrapped around him, just mighty man it. Lackanke. Lad does his stop, fly by, and starts getting that necessary yardage. And here comes Zion Johnson flying ahead of LAD. Gets that block shielded and, you know, there's another 20. Yeah, I'm going to remember that play until they throw dirt over top of me. That's how good. great I feel about that. Hardball says, hey, when they got that mahogany, and then they put the dirt, and then I no longer got life and soul and breath, I'm gonna remember that one and talk about that one

because this could be season-defining play for this Chargers team. If they were to win this game against Miami Dolphins, which is so damn improbable, I actually got some stats about how the probability was before that play, during that play, and after that play on win percentages. And I'll be honest, if I was better at reading what the hell these stats meant and how it was actually anywhere near not bullshit. I would have certainly said it. But nonetheless, that was improbable. That was something

wasn't supposed to happen. And instead, they come together. And you heard Harbaugh talk about Zion Johnson, Extra Block, talking about the culture. Yep. Sure. Ladd McConkey doing his thing. Mighty Man Herbert doing his thing. And then it leads to Cameron Dicker. And this man, has he missed? No, he hasn't. He'd make this 14 of 14 on the year. They're four and two. There were some times earlier in the season where we thought maybe this Harbaugh-Harbert team was going to be crap. Maybe they were going to be shite. Maybe this. all buildup that we're talking about, $300, $400,000, $400 million in a brand new practice facility out there in Los Angeles. Maybe it was all a waste of money. Maybe this team is going

to be the same old chargers every single time. And now beating up on the dolphins with less than 35 seconds left in the game? We're saying was Herbert the number one overall pick all along? Is this the team that's going to go on a run? We shall see in an AFC that is seemingly wide open, except for at the very tippet-tip-it-tip-tuck. DeButch, you've been on the charges for a few years now because you love Justin Herbert. What have you seen from him this season or just in this game that makes you believe maybe the Chargers to win the whole damn thing and their Chargers faithful would obviously love him. Yeah, I mean, it's been since he's been in the league, honestly, and this is, it had a part of that

stat up during the graphic 18 game winning drives only behind Patrick Mahomes since coming into the league. So he's never been an issue. You kind of mentioned all the different offensive coordinators, the different head coaches. We know that Jim Harbaugh is a winner. He builds winners wherever he goes. So he's put the right team around him, the right play callers, everything's kind of going right. now, as far as the question, if he was the right

pick, you know, it's kind of revisionist history. Whoa, no. No. Joe Burrow, obviously, he's a He's a high asman winner. He was a no-brainer. Every one pick, been to a Super Bowl already, has playoff wins. Tua, look, a lot of the league were tanking for Tua at one point now. He did have the

major hip injury that caused some concerns and questions, but Herbert has been doing everything right since coming into the league, but he's still got to win in the playoffs, just like Tua does. So I'll hold off on that. Is the right pick but he's been doing everything right this year so far certainly gave us an opportunity to say it and rub it in gumpy's face and uh that is the only reason why we did this now let's go to uh

because he hates it oh everybody's a genius now okay because he says pasta and water helps him with concussions now all of a sudden everybody would have drafted her but okay okay yeah it's a dolphin's fault. Okay, bunch of knobs. That's exactly. Who win number two, Eddra? Chase? Yeah, Chase Young. And then Akuta, and then Tua, and then Justin Herbert. Joe Burrow, Chase, Akuta, Tua,

Herbert. And Tom Telesco, who's general manager, the Chargers said, whoever the Dolphins picks, cool with us. We're just going to another guy. But we wanted Herbert all. He's what he kind of said. But everybody did kind of have Tua slotted there. Joey Burrow obviously has the year that he has down there at LSU and his slits himself as the Ohio kid.

He's going to be the number one overall pick. Then there was a little chatter. Maybe, now that we know the business a little bit better, that's potentially from the agents of Tua and Herbert maybe. I don't want to put it on anybody saying he's going to say no. He won't turn down the Cincinnati Bengals if they were to draft him number one overall. Do you remember that entire conversation? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I think we were even like, well, what if this guy? You know, because what the Bengals were? He probably should have looking back on it. That's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and we will talk about them later. Cincinnati Bengals aren't in a great spot, but I do appreciate the fact that Joe Flack got hot late. He did. And Jamar Chase started doing his damn thing. It's fun to watch.

They're exciting. They're explosive. Is it a winning brand of football? We shall see. We talk about it. Was he the right pick all along? Two, obviously, gets drafted to the Miami Dolphins, and he kind of, go ahead, five and six. Yeah.

Sorry, five and six. Two gets drafted, one ahead of Justin Herbert. Yikes, that's on me. Should have known that exact number there going in. But nonetheless, so that leads to something we like to call number four headline of the weekend, tough scenes. Oh, no. Oh, no.

We literally just talked about Tua, okay? Tua had that game winner. Less than a minute left. Yeah. Unbelievable. To Daryl. Get a stop. Get a stop.

Get a stop. Tua has game winning drive in final minute of fourth quarter against Justin Herbert. Could be narrative. Could be story. That could be number five. It could be. He was the right pick. Two was the right pick.

All along. All along. That could have been that. entire thing. But instead, Herbert, Ladd, Zion, Johnson, Cameron Dicker, the whole team, we hear it, we see it. And then that leads to a post game that is not a positive one, about a last minute game winning touchdown drive. Instead, it's about, hey, what's the state of culture? And Tua, I don't know if this was prepared or not, I think, personally, decided to utilize this as a time to speak to his teammates. You know, like coaches talk to their locker

room through the media sometimes. They'll get messages through the media. to their players. Well, my guys know that they're not going to England to see Paris. Like, that's a message through the media that they're hoping gets to the players. Our offense, obviously, wasn't nice together. That's a message

they're trying to get to the play. Trying to set the tone maybe before the first team meeting. Like, hey, here's this, I'm trying to, it's been happening since the beginning of time. I think Tula tried to do that through the media to talk to his team and to his locker room. Just what he chose to say, everybody's saying, it's the worst thing you could probably

say is the quarterback the leader of the team yeah well I think it starts with the leadership in in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys right we're expecting this are we getting that are we not getting that we have guys showing up to player only meetings late guys not showing up to player only meeting like there's a lot that goes into that do we have to make this mandatory do we not have to make this mandatory so so it's It's a lot of things of that nature that we've got to get cleaned up, and it starts with the little things like that. So I think Tua, in his eyes and his mind,

are probably trying to be a good quarterback for this team, and then things aren't happening, and he decides to kind of air his teammates out through the media. Every ex-player has spoken about this and said, this is a terrible decision. This is not how you should go about doing this, especially if you're not a winning program and have a winning thing going. He owned up to throwing three interceptions, but that's a part of it.

He did say we, whenever he said team leadership, so he's putting himself in there saying, we got to do a better job. So he does take a little bit of accountability. But throwing your teammates under the bus for things that nobody even knows that your teammates are doing yet. You've got to present a situation, and I say, but in this situation, they're doing terrible things. It's just not a good thing in the locker room is what everybody has been saying, basically. Yeah, and that's very, very brave of you trying to get into his brain and try to think what he's thinking. pasta, pizza, and water?

I mean, that's a brain, right? You know. Every team is different. Some people may be confused out there with the difference between, like, players-only meetings. You know, those kind of come to Jesus' moment, kind of like a player-led meeting. So in my experience, our players-only meetings during the season was, like, the units, like defensive unit, like back seven, no defensive line. But after Friday, we get done with practice, and we go over 15, 20-play script maybe of what the team likes to do. and we go over our communications down left hey nickel left

nickel right all those different things i'm sure offenses do similar things so those are the things that he's talking about i would assume players not showing up to and the only people that can police that are the players the best team that you've been on i would guarantee the players kind of police uh the room so i don't i don't know what his point was kind of getting that out there but uh i would say less less talking from tool will be better going for in my opinion it does seem like every time we hear something from the dolphins we find something like who's team is stupid.

Yeah. This team is not running. Your South Florida boy, Gumpy, obviously, you've been riding this alongside of him. McDaniel, his little tag on his shoe

last week. Yeah, that should have been the coup de grace. But once again, minute left, game winning drive. Against the Chargers, which everybody has.

They had that. And then all of a sudden, Mighty Band does his thing. That wasn't the only tough scene. Obviously, we all woke up with it yesterday. And to London,

we don't like to do this often to England. No. Because, you know, a lot of stuff. But we will like to apologize for that game. Yeah. Okay, that game was...

Hand up. That was tough. Yeah, it's on us to hit for you guys having that one. And I think there's been a lot of bad games. Hembo sent me a stat, though, that basically said that was by far the worst one. I mean, the 20 combined first downs in yesterday's London game were seven fewer than any international game in NFL history. This was by far the worst one of all time.

So we'd like to say, eh, governor, sorry about it. But on that note, a ridiculous thing happened right before half that you guys won't often get to see. Right before half, people are saying this is a tough scene. Aaron Glenn, obviously first year head coach, former defensive coordinator from Detroit Lions, doesn't normally have to deal with all the situational shit on the defensive side of the ball. Probably has somebody in his game situation camp that is in his ear, has his ear. No timeouts. Obviously, it starts with like 20-some seconds on the clock.

It's fourth and one. So this is a tough situation for a team to be in, okay? especially if your quarterback at the time was 17 yards, he had thrown for, okay, 17 yards in the half. And at the end of the game would end up with a net negative 10 yards passing. And the reason why it's negative 10 yards is because sacks count against your pass yards. They gave up nine sacks for negative 55 yards. He only passed for 45 or 47 yards. So you start doing some math.

They had negative net. So Aaron Glenn, I think, wasn't 100% confident. that they were going to be able to pick up maybe two yards to get a first down there on a quick out. Everybody's like, hey, fourth and one, you only need one yard here. There's no timeouts or playing off coverage. Okay, we'll throw a quick out, pick up a first down. Will we? We've thrown for 17 yards in that.

Aaron Glenn's trying to figure that out in real time. It's not really a situation that comes up on a very regular basis. Because if you give them the ball right there, you pick up four or five yards, that's a field goal. So it's like this could be a real swing. Tough situation. obviously mismanaged and then Garrett Wilson comes out afterwards because I have no idea what the plan was

and then I heard what the plan was I was this point at all I don't love it but there was one answer we think like every team is going to talk about this situation around the league we do think there was an answer yeah they're short around the league but I think it was just a hell mirror and you get to that point

until you're like we just saw a first year head coach kind of learned something in real time we always hear head coach and say hey there is no manual that comes with it and it's easier for us especially once the half is over to say we got to say but yeah you just got to throw the hell Mary there give yourself a chance to get something positive there but he was like but it has to be last play of head got to be last play yeah that ball's getting snapped three seconds four seconds or whatever and if you wanted to do the

out you'd have to do like six five seconds so that maybe you'd get one more play if you want to get a closer maybe kick a field goal get a little bit closer there but if you drop that or don't complete that they got to play they got to play and i'll go in the other way there was a lot going on but i think with how shite the game was that situation happening and it being the Jets franchise just kind of this is a con show why is this what we would send to london kind of rude of us yeah it also wasn't even just that last play like their whole that whole drive like Kurt Warner was losing his mind for the entire two minutes it was it was yes the last player whatever and the whole drive was was a weird situation Aaron Glenn was then asked afterwards

if Justin Fields are still going to be the quarterback and he had a little bit of a reaction about how dumb of a question that was basically he has come out since then and said this You know what? Here's what, you know, I thought about this a lot last night. I thought about the question that was asked. And when you look at what Justin did the games that he played, listen, I didn't think he was bad at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good things. And those four games. And this fifth game, he took a step back. You know, and I'm with you guys 100%. And we can't have that. You know, we have to get better than that. And he knows that. And he knows that better than anyone. You know, so I don't think you just try to bench a player after having one true bad game. I thought the other games he played fairly well. Aaron Glenn's got his players back. I think that's what you're hearing right there. And I'd like to think that literally right before half, that whole thing, he was just trying to get to the locker room.

He was just trying to get to the locker room, however the hell we can get to the lock. Right now they're going to say the clock's run to zero, and we're going to be able to go inside if we don't do anything else? Let's do that. Let's get the hell out of here. This Denver Broncos defense is no joke. I mean, they are on a historic run. Vance Joseph right now is on pace for 85 sacks their defense.

which would crush the record of 72, obviously, which is the previous record. They're averaging five sacks per game, and they have a 10-sac lead on the rest of the NFL right now, okay? So this Jets offense, there certainly might be some question marks. And Justin Fields might not be a top five quarterback in the NFL at this stage of his career, or maybe ever in his career whenever it comes to, you know, delivering the ball and point guarding and everything like that. But I think this Denver Broncos defense is a defense that will expose you. I think they will expose whether or not you have a good quarterback, or a good offense.

So I think it's a good kind of thermostat or a kind of judgment, a good comp on how you're going to be. They're going to do that to a lot of teams that don't have great offense. Oh, yeah, great litmus tests. Because when you go, it's not just the quarterback. It's the offensive line.

It's the running backs. Are you going to be able to protect? Because they're going to keep applying pressure, which a couple weeks ago and they came and played the Colts and they came down that last second field goal, they blitz Daniel Jones, like 70% of his dropbacks and only sacked him once.

So that lets you know how well the Colts are being coached I don't know what Daniel Jones playing the quarterback. On that, no, let's go number three headlines. Oh, we, boys, six weeks into the season, we see some MVP. Oh, yeah. Oh, we see some out there. Now, there's a couple omitted, all right, if their team lost. Sure.

Okay, so if your team lost, we weren't going to put them on here. Okay, and if their team almost got close to losing to Joe Flacco's team, we all know we didn't put them on here. Wasn't his fault, but I get it. Okay, so there's a couple quarterbacks that are certainly in the running, especially whenever it comes to the odds if you're betting on them, but their teams didn't win, so we didn't put them up here. There's also a quarterback that's 40 plus years old

that is not even on the odds really and if the Pittsburgh Steelers continue to win, they're 4 and 1, they already have their buy it's going to be a long road. But if they end up 14 and 3, like whatever the case, if they just continue to do that, Aaron Rogers' name's definitely going to be up for MVP. I mean, that's no, if you want to sprinkle

that right now, you can probably get some incredible odds on it. But we're seeing about six guys that got some big time dubs that we're appreciating and respecting their game. Baker Mayfield, let's go to number six, shall we? This guy's awesome. This guy is awesome. Everything about him. Stock explodes through his upper body.

And all Baker does is get up and say, Yup, give me more of that. Give me more. His entire energy has radiated through the entire Tampa Bay area, not just obviously in the locker room. They love this dude. I love this dude. And it's been incredible to watch him explode.

Top four wide receivers out. Who cares? Give me Ted Johnson out of Oregon debuts. I mean, some people who are chanting MVP after this guy scores a touchdown. Maybe hit this flip as well. But yeah. What Baker is. doing right now, man. Anybody that has

that Buccaneer shit on, player, coach, training staff, anybody, fans, everybody associated with his team right now is buzzing because of what number six is doing in the quarterbacks, regardless of who's out there lined up with them. So shout out to him leading his team to a five and one start, and all of them have been

kind of close games that he had to find a way to win. At the beginning, you had no tackles. Right? At the beginning of the season, had no tackles. Now they got no wide receivers. How they do? And Ted's hitting that high-ya. And the G-Z-Lu. And the geez louise moment of the weekend was him going man i only did one this is tess johnson after the game about what was being chanted about i'm gonna tell you out a funny story this is great when i score

and i hear MVP champion i'm thinking they're talking about me so i asked chef fair i'm like ship they was chanted MVP he was like yeah i was like i ain't do nothing this year and then he was like they talk about beggar tess like well that explains it but he is MVP the one he got the first down Well, he is the MVP, though, man, that is incredible stuff. I love their team. I love the culture they have. Well, and even just, like, the throws are unbelievable. All this stuff is so good, and he's at the point now, just like the other guys where

like, hey, it doesn't matter who's out there. The third and 14 run is just like pure will to win. Yeah, like, it doesn't matter what quarterback you are. Like, I don't know who else is making this play. You can say Josh Allen and Mahomes and stuff. I mean, this is ridiculous, just wanting to win, wanting the first down, just more. I mean, there's a one-point game right now, and I don't know what down after it came. It was either the next play or a couple plays after.

That's what led to the Tess Johnson touchdown. It's just a solo effort, unbelievable. He really should win the MVP. I hope everybody just stays healthy on this list just because they are all playing great football. On that note, Baker, we're talking his shit immediately afterwards, understands the moment, been around. I think he's got his best case. body language is insane for the rest of the team let's talk about another guy who's in the MVP conversation Drake may yeah listen Drake may is everything that i think Connor had hoped he would

be Connor talked about his greatness last year they'd be getting their asses beat and he'd say hey we got a guy though this quarterback's making four five plays a game that make you say he understands what he's doing they're talking about his footwork coming out of college he's going to be inaccurate he's not going to be he learned he figured it out he's not going to have to face uh he's not going to be able to dissect the defenses. He's learned. He's figured it out. Is he going to be tough enough? Take those hits. You know, he led North Carolina in rushing and passing one season. Is he going to be able to rush in the NFL? He might be able to take away one of his things. He can. He runs people over. And he's seemingly always jovial. This guy's leadership is like, here we go,

boys type guy, which I didn't know it was possible to win with. And then you team that up with Vrable. And it's like, this is like the perfect match made in heaven up there. You guys got to be absolutely jacked that you have, dare I say it? A more handsome A more athletic Is he taller I mean I don't know

He's got to Today he is Is he taller Is he right now Mac Jones? Yeah he is No You better not even dare

Then Bailey As Matt Jones High Just tall Just let him fit Let him finish Let him go where he's go Is this guy

The 2025 Younger General More mobile version of Tom fucking Brady That was going on He's handsome Have you seen him? Oh yeah

He's incredibly handsome To Tom Oh I don't know Well which time are we talking about Exactly We're talking about 24 years old right now You have to go butt chin Tom Well yeah

Well that's the thing If we were just going to go like Hey no Work done to your body Yeah Drake May is obviously better But the other thing about Drake May is like He's already an adult You know he's 23 years

old, but he's already married. The King and Queen of New England, people are calling the new maze. And it is unbelievable. Everything he does is great. And we can talk about him forever. I legitimately could talk about him forever, but something AQ kind of pointed out last week to me, Josh McDaniels coming back has been a huge reason for his success. Just the way the offense goes, it's very smooth. Debutt said to me before the show, like, Drake May has entered the conversation where when he's throwing the ball and the ball leaves the screen and they got to track it, it doesn't matter. You know it's going to be some sort of good ball,

some sort of, you know, right read. Everything he does is perfect. I really don't know how it can get better than this. Winning the Super Bowl, of course. But this is the happiest, you know, and most excited I've been about a football team with a football team since Tom Brady beating the Rams in the Super Bowl. Obviously, Vrabel back too.

He's awesome. His dramatics on the sideline. I forgot about how spectacular they are. I guess these refs weren't necessarily on your guys' side down there. I don't think it's necessary for the first 15 because this needs to be its own 15, just about the referees. And it's not really just about this game.

It's about the idea that if this referee crew was on a Colts Bills, hey, huge game deciding who the one seat is, this was a pass interference call. And you're going to say, against Stefan Diggs on the second 60-yard touchdown to Pop Douglas. And you're going to say, oh, well, where's the flag? This is what it was. And I actually made Debutt look at it because Debutt actually knows football,

and I'm just a Patriots fan. But Debutt said, I don't get it. This is the worst call I've ever seen. If you actually watch the All-22, you can't see when the flag is thrown. And both teams had their special teams units on the field. That's not the play. Both teams had their special teams units on the field for the extra point because they already celebrated the defense already walked off, the offense already walked off,

and then they called the passenger fear and so I don't know who the crew is I'm glad that the Patriots won just because I didn't have to come on here today and say hey Roger Goodell there's seven terrorists that work for the NFL and they're wearing black and white stripes and they refereed the game in New Orleans yesterday this is the play

and for some reason again that you're not going to see a flag it's not going to pop up on the broadcast it's not going to show on the bottom touchdown celebration incredible play look at Drake May too in the pocket oh yeah he is bad feet that matters, strike, and then a touchdown,

but instead it gets called back for a pass interference. So, again, this is more. The pass interference is 10 yards on the field on the side of the way we just showed with Stefan Diggs, just because it's getting him worked up here. Stephon Diggs was 30, 40 yards away from the plate. I mean, he is nowhere near the plate. And even if he was right on top of the plate, people would argue that this right here, you're going to call offensive pass interference right there.

I don't know if that's the thing. And then the timing of it happening late, you have to think to yourself, wait, are they working against the Patriots? And then this empowers the Patriots even more, by the way. Oh, yeah. Frable's on a sideline trying to talk to this ref, nobody's list. There's a shot of Frable's head just going back, mind-blown by the officials. And then for them to get a win there, all the mass holes just, oh, they're against us again.

Oh, they're against us again. They're trying to hold it. They don't want to see it again. That's what the New England Patriots fans feel like. Now, we can't talk about Drake May the entire time, even though we should think about it. Sam Donald, also, former Minnesota Vikings quarterback. And obviously everybody remembers he's time in New York, not going great. Well, with the Seattle Seahawks, this dude has become a guy for their entire organization.

Remember, they're moving on. Jackson Smith and Jigba has like a bunch of records right now. He is absolutely crushing him and Sam Darnold have crushed since the beginning. And Injigba, by the way, is a Sierra Leone name. I believe his grandfather came to the United States of America. It's a story that we read online is accurate. And the American that took him in, basically, his last name was Smith. So his name is Jackson Smith.

and Jigba is his grandfather's name from Sarah Leone, and Smith is the, I forget the name, do you remember the name? Sponsor, or whatever it was coming in there. That's there, because we looked it up, because it's like such a cool name. Jackson Smith and Jigba is a cool name. The story also awesome, his family story is incredible, and what he's doing with Donald, outrageous.

They just let him out of the building over there in Minnesota. I wonder if they thought it was just going to be a, you know, a one-hit wonder. Sam Donald's all the way back, and McDonald loves him. Yeah, he's all the way back. is third in the NFL in passing yards behind Stafford and Dak. He is fifth in touchdowns. He's got 11 touchdowns, the three interceptions. And these balls that you're seeing, like to JSN and Cooper Cup there, they are absolutely perfect. Like, there is nowhere else that

you could throw these balls. He's on fire right now, leading this offense with JSN, with Cooper Cup, with some, with the tight end. Sam Darnel's playing really, really good football. Yeah, Sam Darnel's in the MVP conversation. You know who else is here in Indianapolis? Danny Dine. Now, Danny Dynes can run and he can obviously spin it. That's why the Dimes name's out there. They're calling him Indiana Jones because he saved our state. But I'll tell you, whenever he's playing, he saved the Colts franchise as well.

We're a very boring franchise. We had the capability of winning games, but it was going to be a grinded out type game. We have the ability now to win any style of game. You know, if it's going to be a dog fight, we can do it. If it's going to be a shootout, for some reason, if our defense can't get stops, if our corners are maybe not able to be in the right place, if our corners are going to get knocked out of the game before the game even starts

while doing a warm-up, a pretty huge shining for us doesn't even make it to game time because there's a miscommunication in warm-ups and he ends up getting a concussion before the game even starts. There's like a chance that maybe our defense isn't going to be able to get a stop. We were able to win.

Now this is a sad moment. It can happen. Boom. Bang. Ogletree, shoulder. Mooney's head, concussion. 11.50 a.m. Obviously, game kickoff at 1. D. Bone and my mom.

We're already at the game in the suite that we have. They sent a text to just people gathered around somebody, had no idea if somebody maybe fell, heard it was a concussion, wondered if maybe some of football was punted and hit him in the head because in those pre-pre-workout, there is like kind of a rules of engagement

on how it all goes, which I think is what a lot of people are questioning with Cheverius Ward and Ogletree situation. There is kind of like an unwritten rules on how the pre-pre-pre-warm-up kind of works. Yeah, you usually probably the first one out there, first or second one out there with you and the kickers. But for us, you know, we go out there depending on home or away, like, where do you warm up,

who do you warm up with? But you got to be aware of where kind of other people are on the field. You see, you know, you got the fourth down Army, snap, holder, and kicker. But as far as the coaches even throwing these, it was Ogletree and Ward. So the coaches, you see the coaches where yard line they'd be on. So. 30-20-9-year-line basically going in, and they're throwing the ball. So I think them and the actual players want them got to be on the same.

same pace to make sure you're not going out while I'm going in. You can't have something like this happen to any player, let alone your big time offseason $20 million year quarterback. And on that note, I'm surprised more injuries don't happen in these situations. Just after seeing it, I was like, I was like, man, I don't know why I didn't ever think that this could possibly happen. I mean, I almost sniped Tim Tebow from like 75 yards away. That would have been a, if that Those are the toughest ones. The punts? Yeah, when you got punts coming from. Yeah, it kicks. But when you're throwing the ball like we all remember the pregame with uh was it Tucker and but or buck or Travis so like you're kind of aware of who's warming up where so you got to be

aware obviously where your ball and you have more control of the ball that's being thrown than the ball is being kicked but that shit can't happen in the Anthony Richardson thing along like I'm like before all of the some details came out you're like what the hell is going on with the coach pregame warmer but all that being said I think the Anthony Richardson I think he was using a band and then something I think the band pulled something like from what I because band you immediately think I had a friend whenever I was growing up playing soccer I was a teenager he was getting band working thing snapped came back hit him in like ripped his hamstring oh that shit the metal thing like came and he like I had to get surgery he was out he was very good player too

like I don't know I was like 14 years old I think it was the very beginning of like band like treatments I think or I had no idea teenagers were using him and he's like yeah he's out or whatever what happened. It's like band snapped, snapped over his hamster. It's like, oh my God, that's scary as hell. I'm a big band user guy, but there is always a fear that the band's going to snap and you're going to get one. Yeah. So I thought that was immediately what is. I guess that wasn't the, I guess

there's potentially something, I don't know. Orbital bone, I mean, he was in the hospital. Yeah, that's not good. Shavarves Ward. And then Marvin Harrison, Jr., his head smacked off the turf, really hard. He got taken in to the and then there was a special teamer. I don't know his name. I should know his name for the Arizona Cardinals. He got carted off with a neck

like he had a neck incident. They took the face mask off the helmet. They took a face mask off the helmet. He was kind of, he was strapped down to the cart, and they took him off. And it was like, damn, that looks very, very scary. I guess they released him from the hospital. He flew back with the team.

But yesterday, there was a lot happening at that Indianapolis Colts game. And on that note, Colts were able to get a win. A lot of layers, a lot going on, able to get a win. That Arizona Cardinals team, Jacoby was spinning it. Oh, yeah.

Jacoby was spinning it, absolutely. But Danny Dimes gets it done. Also, Patrick Mahomes, he's come back into the scene. said, oh yeah, you forgot about me. You have. You have. You have forgot about me. The Kansas Chief's offense has obviously looked much better over the past few weeks than it had for maybe a year and a half or so. And I think if you listen to the Kansas City Chiefs people,

where people talk about what the Kansas City Chiefs are saying, they feel better about their team now at this point of the season than they did last year. And last year, they got to the Super Bowl. They got Rishie Rice coming back. Okay, so they still got the little trick-em, you know, slick-em-type operation. Patrick Mahomes is doing Patrick Mahomes stuff, but they got another weapon coming back who's very fast and very tough to get.

So if you think about what Worthy's been able to do. And Travis Kelsey seemingly, back to being Travis Kelsey, Pacheco running this thing. Juju Smith-Schuster, he's in the middle of some stuff, I guess, after the game. Obviously, with Brian Branch, that was a wild scene. I don't think any of us could have expected that. But if you think about where this Chief's team is headed, it's like Patrick Mahomes' MVP conversations are about four or five weeks away from being full-throated, brother. I mean, that is going to be coming around the corner. Yeah, they're coming.

And they're coming big time because a lot of the, you know, talk at least on like the internet. net around Mahomes is this guy's a baby. All he does is bait people and then pout to the refs. Mahomes is getting blasted week in and week out and under his own volition. Like he's running and seeking out contact. So if you were thinking that like Mahomes maybe thought everything was too sweet, like no. He just, I think they kind of reminded everybody last night like, hey, we're not dead. We can hit that next gear when we need to.

And yeah, I mean, once they actually get fully healthy here, look out for the chiefs and Mahomes too, because he's heard everything. what's saying. And this is not a good thing, but he also leads the team in rushing as well. Yeah, and the rushing goes back to Ty's point. He took like three shots to the back on one play last night, right at the first down marker, and he just like kept going and then gets right up. Takes a big time shot, gets up. I think Hutch hit him late. Yeah. Hutch hit him late. He got right back up. It's like Patrick Mahomes has a lot of dog in him. I think he's reminding everybody, yeah, shit is sweet. I own soccer team. I own chair one. I own baseball team.

My resume's already in Go conversation. I'm a dog, though, who's still drinks Coors Lights, and it feels like they're getting better and better. The Lions, are you guys completely out on yourselves after losing that game? No, everything's okay. That was more about the Chiefs and the Lions. We'll bounce back next week. Well, what about Brian Branch afterwards? That doesn't feel like an MCD.

No, and that's really funny to bring that up, because everyone's calling Brian Branch selfish. But I really think what he was doing was a favor to everyone that's ever wanted to smack juju in the mouth. We should be thanking Brian Brin. That is not how this works. You know, what's so funny, D.B. What's so funny D. I didn't expect everybody. That's good.

Fox. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Brian. Love you, Brian. Now, on that note, who just tried to be nice. MCDC came out and said, this ain't us, man, this will be.

This is, we don't cheap shot people. Juju going, yeah, what up? screaming at sideline. Oh, what up, Branch? How are you doing, man? I just got a pretty good block on him about three minutes ago. You saw it back again. Boom.

So Branch came out and said there was a memory. He's blindside, and there was a block. Whatever the case, this is not good for ball, especially with two of our best teams. That can't happen. All of this can't happen. You know, what's that?

getting tossed on her back. Yeah, I mean, what Brian Branch, obviously that can't happen. Is he pulled his ears too when he was on the ground? That's Bush League, but if you're a juju

and you decide, he was kind of in the moment there, do I lay here on the ground? I don't know, I got to get up. Games over. I'm not getting the flag. So he came and attacked him,

but you already have a teammate on him. You then can't get manhandled by Brian Branch with one arm when you're coming. So that's a bad look for Juju. He was bleeding. It was rough for him. So it wasn't good.

And you don't want, this is a black guy for NFL, for the NFL in general. So Dan Campbell, I'm sure he addressed it with Brian Branch before he went and spoke to the media as well. But, yeah, I'll be interested to see how they handle this with Brian Branch because he is kind of in that Draymond Green kind of category when it comes to being fined, having different things going between and after the whistle. So I hope they don't suspend them, but we'll see, I'm sure, at least a hefty fine, maybe even a suspension. I agree. There's probably going to be a lot because the NFL cannot have this happen.

I mean, fights after games used to happen back in the play. Look at the camera. camera people camera people incredible work getting out of there honestly that's an ACL to a camera oh yeah I mean there's big bodies going in there Patrick Mahomes ends up in the bottom of this pile which once again goes back to us loving

Patrick Mahomes okay he's willing to jump in the bottom of this pile don't love that this fight is happening refs already gone games over we're out of here this game's over we're riffing for 60 minutes you guys handle your shit security gets in there coaches get in there it was full mayhem these are two of our best teams obviously it's very emotional it's a physical sport it's a tough sport

and then the fireworks go off and say hey we get a big time win. Number two, storyline is the Chiefs is still the Chiefs. And the number one storyline is the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. Okay, so that is all you need. Boom, bang.

And Jonathan Taylor, this guy. Wow. I know we got him in the first round. He might be worth a couple now. He might be worth a couple now. He ain't going nowhere. He might be wearing a couple of those right now. Franchise great.

He's exceptional. Well, he is unbelievable. His celebration is sick. I got people mocking it from the, other team. He's seemingly untackable. The offense aligns all over the place. Danny Dimes put him in the right position. In our defense, yesterday couldn't get a damn stop. Okay? Once we got one of our guys got taken up before the game even started. Yeah. Okay, that's a big piece. Literally find out an hour and ten minutes before the game.

He's not able to play. Why? What has he? He said, well, he's okay. He said, well, yes, he just got hit by over three and shoulder. Eat an elbow. What do you mean? Kid cause, yeah. Out. It was bad. Where? It was on a who? Who? You were around like 35-yard line out there? Boom, it's over. So whenever that happens right for the game, obviously it's not easy. The Colts get a huge win, and obviously we need to go going forward, need that not happen. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might have more information on that

and everything else that happened around the NFL. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan, man. Ladies and gentlemen, tough one against USC. Adam Schefter. Hey, everybody. Hey, hey, guys. Shefti, sorry, we made you wait there, had to get to the bottom of everything. The ward injury.

I am a pre-warm-up person because I'm a punter. Punters and kickers are out there a lot. I'm surprised that more injuries don't happen legit after watching this but it is kind of organized chaos usually. What is the update here? We assume he'll be back or is just protocol going to do what the protocol is going to do?

Well, he's in protocol now and typically when you miss one game there's a real chance you miss another one so that collision could cost him two games there. He went down, stayed down. I mean, that's scary when you see something like that happened. And to see him inactive before the game like

that, I don't recall a team losing a player in pregame warmups, no less two players, two significant injuries. Obviously, Ward had the concussion there, and Anthony Richardson fractured his orbital bone, stretching with a band of some sort. So I don't know whether he was stretching his hamstring or his shoulder, his arm, whatever it was, snap back and fractured his orbital bone. So he's going to miss time now, too. So that's crazy pregame warmups. And I always think that those are signs of things to come. And of course, Colts had a tough time with the Cardinals, but they prevailed in the end and played well enough to win. Okay. Yes, they did prevail. Yeah. Okay. And maybe we do

have the worst optics for a stadium whenever that roof and windows open for a one o'clock game in October. But I want to let you know whenever you're in there, it feels so cool. It feels so cool. There's a nice little breeze every once in a while that comes out of the sky. The football gods bless you a little bit. But I can see how on TV would stink. And also, I assume the camera people do not love having to adjust this every single quarter as they go forward. But nonetheless, it was rocking in Indianapolis. Let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously, they were down all their

wide receivers this week. Baker Mayfield still makes a play. What are we hearing about them? Baker, potential MVP conversation. Is there any other injuries or storylines that we should hit that you just saw miss in our first 15? Well, I think the few things, obviously the Brian Branch, Judeo Smith-Schuster, from last night is under review. I would imagine we'll hear something at some point. If he's

going to be suspended, if there's going to be any suspensions, we'll probably hear something today on that. Obviously, if we go back to Jalen Carter in the first game of the year, he spit on deck on the first play, basically, and got ejected. So if this incident had occurred pre-game, would Brian Branch have been ejected from the game? And I think the answer is probably yes so if he would have been ejected before the game i think it stands to reason that the league is absolutely going to consider a suspension here especially when you consider that sportsmanship was a point of emphasis for the NFL in the offseason especially when it's a standalone sunday night game so the league is going over it you could see the scene

that occurs there's an overhead view of it two guys going at it turns into a scrum a skirmish everyone's gathered around that's not what the league wants at the very least there are going to be significant fines

and I think there's a real possibility that it's going to involve the suspension full chaos obviously with a bunch of members of the media in the middle of it which worst case scenario for all parties there obviously can't have it

love that they're passionate but I'm excited to see what the league office does here you know because this would normally B, as you know more than us, as you're getting a phone call right here? Is that a heads up on what the punishment is? Well, again, you ask about the bucks. We're bouncing all over here.

Buccaneers, Ameca Bucca is not going to be able to play this week. Chris Godwin's not going to be able to play this week. Not going to be able to play this week. They're hoping that Mike Evans can come back and play this week. Monday night against the Detroit lines. A great game. And you mentioned Baker Mayfield. Incredible.

He bounces around the league the way he does. And one of the biggest stories of this season. And we talked about it last week, Pat, is all these quarterbacks who have been reclamation projects who have become saviors elsewhere. Baker Mayfield in Tampa is the man. Sam Darnold in Seattle is the man. Daniel Jones in Indianapolis is the man. Mack Jones has played exceedingly well for the 49ers going up against Baker Mayfield

and the Buccaneers yesterday. So these quarterbacks have essentially been taken off the scrap heap, places that they've not been able to succeed. They've gone on to great success elsewhere. And that, to me, is one of the biggest stories of the season. And Baker is the headliner there in play for the MVP. This run right here, going through people lunging out, getting the first down. I'm sitting with Teddy Bruske, where we're watching the game.

Teddy went nuts when he saw that play. He loved that. And then here's Ted Johnson, the unofficial MVP of the National Football League. He's going out and catching that pass. As Baker said, if you're 140 pounds, you should be able to move that fast. But he's thrown to Ted Johnson. He's thrown to Cameron Johnson. who knew that the Buccaneers wide receivers would be

the Johnson and Johnson law firm receivers that most people don't even know and they're out there making plays for Baker Mayfield and the Bucks. I love that Tess was able to hit that whisper in the wind just so easily. You know and Baker was asked

about it and said if I was 140 pounds I'd be able to do that too. Bet, bet. That looked like somebody that goes on America's got talent and has the capability to flip in full pads and if the MVP chance come down for that flip every single time, I love what he's doing. The MVP

flip from Tez, he was a dog at Oregon ran a slow 40. Yes he did. Everybody talked about his 40 being slow, especially with us, well, he was us included because we're like damn, we did not expect that. He's getting behind defense is still and moving. Okay, active week last week in the moving and grooving world. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Shephti,

it feels as though this is going to be a massive week as far as trades go. Who's buying and who's selling? We used to hear that in high school, but Who actually is doing that when it comes to the players this week? I mean, Tampa needs a receiver, it sounds like, especially if those guys are going to be out. Obviously, there's some, you know, drama going around with a couple teams, Philly comes to mind. And then there are teams like the Ravens, who are kind of just underperforming,

have some players that either might get paid or might not get paid. They just moved Odafe Owe last week, and he is a potential contract player. Who do you think is going to be the most active this week? Are there any big names kind of on boards right now, you think? Yeah, well, if we look at it, last week there were three trades, and last year leading up to the trade deadline, there were 18 trades in the month of October leading up to the deadline. The deadline is Tuesday, November 4th, three weeks from tomorrow.

So, again, I don't know of any trade right now that's close. Let's check in, but I would think that there will be trades that are made this week. because there were last week. You've got the Chargers looking for running back, the Steelers looking for a receiver, the Eagles always looking for help. The Browns, ultimately, are buyers and sellers. They're still trying to rebuild their roster,

but I think they have some offensive linemen that might draw interest elsewhere. I think a team that everybody's watching is the Dolphins. They've got Bradley Chubb. They've got Jalen Phillips, and we'll see how that goes. What's up with that, Pat? Just the Browns buying and selling.

I'll take five new cards, four new cards. three whatever what are you willing to give i'm willing to we're open for business we are open for business here just describing different states of teams is what you just did right there hey this team's going to be buying this team's going to be looking this team's going to be looking those are teams that are thinking about a future and what do you talk about teams that are selling it's like okay they're thinking about leaving browns are like hey listen well whatever you got what do you want let's make a deal what do you want to you want to move you want to groove we got sean watson coming back in a few weeks yeah what are they going to do over there is there any word on that front

yeah he um he's a good month away from being cleared for any like football activity he is on the list there hasn't been conversation about wonder if he'll play again um but i know there were some people last week when they saw joe flacco being traded in a move that my tomlin did not approve of apparently today according to his press conference um what he say basically he said that uh and i you want the exact quote hold on we're going to pull it up right now when this happened just now it happened about a half hour ago roughly roughly he said he said something

Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't make sense to trade a quarterback you think enough of to make your division to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area but that's just my personal feeling here is the video we actually just found it

good job Bruce you know to be honest it was shocking to me um Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter to me or us because it doesn't make sense to me to train a quarterback

that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. But that's just my personal feelings. Okay, you nailed it, Sheffty, and also whoever typed that, we could hear you. Oh, my God.

We need to get rid of it, in your journalist so you can talk to these people. They need to watch how they're breathing behind these mics, okay? A lot of people record on cell phones or something and... Naturally. natural snores we can hear that then the typing obviously not their fault they're trying to keep up

w pm we can hear that we need a little bit more directed audio but i love that tomlin did that i appreciate the that's the first time i've heard him hey this this team's general manager direct andrew barry it's got to be some super genius or some sort i love that how does that make you feel as a steeler's Oh, it's awesome. Because he doesn't normally, like, come out and speak as mine. Like, he does, but he does it in riddles that you have to decipher, which if you're a dealer fan, you're good at at this point. But, like, he doesn't, that's something you don't normally see from Tomlin,

like coming out and kind of criticizing another team slash GM. And he thinks very highly of Flacco. We heard of earlier this year, whenever, especially with what he just did. Earlier this year, he told a story about how last year he told the defense to keep Anthony Richardson upright, okay? We want Anthony Richardson to get out of this game because we do not want Joe Flacco playing in this thing. It is clear that Tomlin has massive respect

for Joe Flacco. Okay, Andrew Barry, this guy, are we seeing the same thing? They've had a lot of battles. Why are we saying that? Now, talking about Cincinnati and Cleveland, there's a lot of situations brewing. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Shephty, just kind of want to get a temperature gauge on the hot seat of some of these coaches. No one in particular, Stefanski,

McDaniel, Callahan, Aaron Glenn. Is anyone's seat hotter than the others are getting real hot? Week six, NFL season, starting to get there. Fireings are in the air. Not so much NFL, but they're starting, you know, the firing bug is starting to catch some guys. Oh, yeah. I don't see, it doesn't mean I'm right, but I don't see a coaching move being

made anytime soon. Of course, there are going to be coaches who lose their jobs. It happens every year, and it's become sport within the sport of the National Football League to see it happen. But I don't think, and for all I know, we're going to hang up here and someone's going to get fired,

but I don't see a hey coach losing his job, I don't see, you know, Brian Callahan, obviously, has come under intense criticism. I don't see that happening soon. Mike McDaniels come under intense criticism. I don't see that happening soon. The Jets just hired Aaron Glenn, nothing's happening there. Like, who else are we firing here?

What other head coach do we aren't fired? Zach Taylor? Again, we don't want it. We're just saying these are, these are, these are names. I've seen Pete Carroll get tossed around as this guy was talking all. lot of shit for a guy that's two and four yeah you know what p carroll came in and took over a team that had a lot of holes and needed a lot of help like that's part of the problem that's what bill bellichick is going through in north carolina you take over a downtrodden barren roster

it takes time to put it back together and and p carroll is a coaching legend like he deserves the time to be able to do that if he and they've decided after a season that this isn't working out. Well, that's something they would decide, but Pete Carroll is not losing his job in season. Good. I'm happy to hear that. We love Pete Carroll. And also, to all these coaches, good luck figuring it out. You know, Aaron Glenn, I have faith in him, too. I think that end to half situation was, let's get to the locker. I don't care about anything. And then whenever him talking about benching a player and him, I think he's trying to get his players back in that entire thing in Justin Fields. So that's why he felt obligated to come out

and respond, I think. Is that probably how you're reading that as well, Shepty? Yeah, yeah. I think you think about these things. And honestly, in the moment, when somebody asks that question after the game that was just played, probably, like, it's emotional. Like, he's pissed off at that point time. The best way to answer it, and of course, it's easy to say in hindsight is, Justin Fields is our quarterback. Today didn't work out. But we believe in this guy. We invested in this guy, and we're going to be back at it next week. But that's not how he feels in the moment. He's so angry that he's like, what kind of question is that, man? And I think you step back and you think, think about it and you reflect on it and you change your tone when you have a little bit

a time to process the question and the entire situation. Negative 10 net yards passing for Justin Fields yesterday. That includes the loss of yardage in sacks. They give up nine sacks to the Denver Broncos. Benito's leading the league in sacks at eight. Yep. Had won yesterday. They're on track to have 85 sacks or something like that this season, which would

obviously be an NFL record. That Broncos defense is tough. They are a problem. And Vance Joseph is a beast. He's going to be up for head coaching jobs again at some point. Okay, we've got to get to tonight's game because there's only two minutes left here because we made it wait so long in that hotel room. We're happy to live in the life of luxury, too.

You deserve it, Schefter. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shetzie, quickly, what does the injury report look like for both games tonight? I want to compare the luxury of my hotel room to the luxury of Pat's hotel rooms for college game day. They're terrible for game day. Yeah, I don't have it. That's why you got to get the buzz, brother.

Need to get the chef for the bus. That's not in a basement one time. Yeah, yeah. I was in one of those rooms a couple times, and I said, no more. Yeah, I'm going to get a bus. Yeah, so some interesting injury situations tonight, obviously. Like the Buffalo Bills have a couple of what they call pre-game decisions with Dalton, Kincaid, and Curtis Samuel, at wide receiver.

Commander say game time for Debo Samuel, who's got the heel injury. The Bears have some of those situations with Colton, Olston Loveland, their tight end, the rookie from Michigan. But the Bears are getting back, T.J. Edwards, their linebacker and Kyler Gordon at cornerbacks, so they're having some reinforcements added on the back end. But some big question marks going into tonight's game, a little bit more than usual for a double header of this stature and magnitude. All right, well, good luck with the coverage.

We appreciate you joining us, and we can't wait to keep up with Adam Schaefter, with all the breaking news. You're the man. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Hey, is Michigan okay? Uh-oh. Why aren't they okay?

Yeah, they had a tough weekend. St. Sharon, my band, Lossie. Oh, no. Shorone. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schafter. Yes, Jeffrey. I love Sharon. That was tough, though.

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Level up for more on the ESPN app or at stream.esPN.com. Sign up now. Football. It's the greatest. We're lucky we get a chance to chat about it, and football season is certainly delivering. I think baseball is happening as well. Let's go to the talk to the table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Congrats to your Packers. They are now one-in-one against Joe Flacco on the season after a big-time win against the Cincinnati Bengals. Baseball is happening, though, over the weekend. I heard Big Dumpski, Big Dumpur did some magical things with a guy wearing a shirt right over his shoulder that I don't think necessarily was anything that Cal Rolley would know anything about. He had a bomb last night. What's going on

in baseball? He did, yeah. This was game one of the ALCS. Yeah, very inappropriate shirt behind Dumpur. The guy actually pointed to it right before the pitch and then boom, Dumber goes yard. What is it? It was a bump plug. It was a butt plug. Yeah. I thought it was a chest piece. It did look like maybe one of those lava lamps. It did. Yeah, it could be a lava

we're not 100% sure, I guess, what that is. A lot of people on the internet saying things, but the thing that looks like a lava lamp there looks like other stuff as well. including a big dumper monocle. Right. Yeah, which moniker. Or Monocle.

And Monocle as well. But nonetheless, Big Dumpur did what Big Dumber do. Yeah, exactly. Big Dumber goes yard when they're in a 1-0 hole and kind of just silences the crowd a little bit in Toronto. You know, hey, we're here to stay. Massive shot by Dumpur. And then Seattle kind of just Jorge Polanco,

who has been an absolute dog in the playoffs, single to bring in a run. And then he wasn't done either. He'd grab another C&I single later to take the lead to 3-1 and the Mariners win 3-1. They take game 1. They are leading the Blue Jays 1-0 in the ALCS. And then we have Dodgers and Brewers starting here very soon.

Yeah, what happened to Cubs? I heard they lost. A lot of Cubs fans were all bummed up. I saw a lot of that. There was a lot of that. Because on top of potentially their big guy who they traded for to bring in and thought maybe they were going to, you know, extend him, one of the best players in baseball.

He basically said after the game, like, yeah, it was a fun season. We'll kind of see what the future holds. So they're probably going to lose Kyle Tucker. And then, boom, Andrew Vaughn, who's actually a white sock. So they kind of just, you know, a little extra rubbing in there. He goes yard, Brewers lead to one. And then Bryce Tarang later also went yard. And Pete Crowe Armstrong, he almost had this one.

You remember a couple days ago, he almost robbed one. Oh, never mind. It was about 60 feet over the fence as well. Basically, the Cubs raised. That was 60 feet over. Yeah, it was so. So far, if he would have been like 65 feet tall, he might have caught it. So I guess maybe that's what he was thinking.

But unfortunately, the Cubs ran into the MIS. I like the effort. Yeah, effort is great, but Cubs ran into the Miz. The Mizz came out and pitched early. He gave up a homer to say a Suzuki earlier, but then just cruised after that. And he got a big win. So the Brewers move on, face the Dodgers, two best teams in the NL. Okay, so we got Brewers, Dodgers, and then we got Mariners.

Blue Jays. Okay, baseball's happening. Yep. Shout out baseball. We appreciate it. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Public money, not good money at this point. What was the stat you reiterated in the first hour? Yes, so this weekend, teams that were getting 60% or more of the public bet against the spread were two and five this weekend on the season.

They are now, let me get it right. Okay, 15 and 35. Okay, that's NFL football we're talking about there. That is NFL Sunday. If you're seeing a lot of people thinking the same thing, there's a reason. and it's a sports books and we don't know what AI they're using No, we don't. We don't know if they're chat GP

Tuning. We don't know if they got Grok rolling rocks. We don't know if they got Google's thing, whatever. Maybe they have their own AI that we don't know. It's been pretty good. And it loves when everybody's going one way. It is love that. To be clear, I feel the same way on game day. You know, whenever I see the graphic and I see a lot going the other way

I feel real good. Strictly because this has been the sports books way. This has kind of been the way football has been this year, which is why it has been electrifying nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler. Here's good to see you. Huge weekend for Indiana football. Yes, it was huge.

Ranked highest ever, right? Number three in the eight people that came out today, the Indiana Hoosiers, led by Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza, Surrott Cooper Jr. Fisher on the defensive side, he was literally everywhere. Kumbart, you name it. This team is filled with dogs, and Signetti is certainly one that is leading them all.

It is a cool day to be in Indiana sports football. fan, especially if you know. Colts are 5 and 1, which is the best record in ball. The bills can become the third team tonight that are 5 and 1 alongside the Colts in the bucks. Steelers are 4 and 1. They've already had their by week. They've got a long way. But the Colts legitimately stats and record-wise, top team in the NFL. And then Indiana just went into Oregon, had the biggest win of the season, biggest upset of the season. And their story is now going to be one that's going to be tried to be emulated throughout all of NIL and transfer portal football. Now, Kurt Signetti's name is immediately mentioned.

Every year. Whenever another job is available. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a runner-cup winner, and a former president of Ohio, A.J. Hawker, good to see you. You did a great job picking the NFL spread, and obviously college. You got every game right, dude. Congratulations, proud of you.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Way to do that, Hawker. But Indiana goes into Oregon. It gets a huge win. And obviously, I think there's a lot of tradition, especially, around the Big Ten. Indiana's on a football team, right? Isn't that kind of the thought, AJ Hawk? They are definitely known as a basketball school for sure, but I think we are

changing that pretty quickly. I think so too, especially in massive moments on prime time. You know, last year against Ohio State, I mentioned it, and then obviously against Notre Dame, the two biggest moments when everybody was like, let's see, a lot of let's see people on Indiana last year, and they lost those games. And I said they shit the bed on game day because that's real against Ohio State. It was like a return that was babbled, some other stuff that was babbled. It was like they were very much in that game with Ohio State, who would go on to become the national champions. It's like, but this Indiana team this year,

they got a little bit more chemistry, they got a little bit more depth, they got a little bit more maturity, and they got a quarterback that is unbelievable. So whenever I watched Oregon Penn State play, and we're going to get to that here in a matter of moments, I watched Penn State's offense not be good at all. Okay, like I watched Penn State's offense with my own eyes not be good.

They weren't good on the field, and it wasn't good on the sideline. Like even when they're playing catch on the side. Nothing was really good, I thought. Now, granted, I don't know how many of those I see, so I'm judging college football, NFL football. It's like, how often do I see all this? And in my eyes, it's like, this isn't going as good. They get to, you know, double overtime with Oregon at Penn State team,

with limited offense. Drew Aller had one drive where it was offense and they get to overtime. Indiana's offense, real deal. So I thought if Indiana could protect Mendoza, he'll be able to do some, and they did. And they showcased that early. and I just think Indiana is a very, very good team. Now, on that note, whenever you win, everybody starts looking at your roster,

especially in the modern world, especially when you're trying to build a football juggernaut. It's not just the players, it's the coaches, too. Sixth name is already being thrown up for another job in the Big Ten. That's right. They're the highest ranked team, second highest ranked team in the Big Ten behind Ohio State. And his name's up for, ladies gentlemen, joining us now is college football analyst, expert, pundit, legend from the Big Ten, who's also, Pittsburgh Steelers fan, ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dinnich.

Heather, how you doing? Who, who, who? Who, Chair. Okay, let's talk about that. Obviously, it's an incredible year. Certainly would like to hear your thoughts on this Indiana Hoosier culture, being able to be turned as quickly as it was

under Signetti, who literally came in and said, Google me, I win, and that's exactly what he's done the entire time. Kirk Herbstree gave a stat in the opening a game day. Indiana's won in 71 in these types of games. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Indiana just started their football program last year. This is a brand new football program.

It's a wonderful time, obviously, in Bloomington for the football fans. Basketball is going to be great as well. Going into Oregon getting a huge win is great. But now Signetti's name is up for the Penn State job. It's going to be up for every single job. And nobody has talked to Signetti's family, and we haven't got any quotes. I assume he's very happy at Indiana. I think he has said that a lot of times very thankful for the opportunity.

But this is what comes with success, especially when a job like Penn State opens up, Heather. So let's talk about that. Penn State's job, if he didn't win a national championship, was he going to be gone this year, you think James Franklin? And on that note, this has got to be what, one of the highest touted job openings there is in all of college ball, Heather. This is a fantastic job with tremendous resources and the ability to win. And to answer your first question, look, these conversations didn't get serious until after the loss to Northwestern because they lose to UCLA, right? and there's a sense of, they're stunned, disappointed, right? Not rock bottom yet, though.

Okay, we can meet Northwestern, get back on track here, and have a fighter's chance against Ohio State, get this thing back. But then you'll lose to Northwestern, and the atmosphere became so toxic, right? With the fans, with everything, it became so volatile. But here's the thing, Pat, this, to your point about this being a good job, the resources here are tremendous. Financially speaking, Penn State is on par with Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon. This was a business decision as hard as it was to make, but they have the money to hire anyone they want. And when you talk about SIG saying, yeah, I'm happy at

Indiana. Matt Ruhl might say, yeah, I'm happy at Nebraska. Remember Lincoln Riley? Yeah, I'm not going to LSU. I'm going to go to USC instead, right? So you just don't know. And money makes all the difference. College football does seemingly have the most lies coming out of coaches' mouths at press conferences because they are forced to speak and there's a lot of things happening behind closed doors. And the coaches can always say, well, I actually don't hear anything because Jimmy Sexton's actually doing all the talk. And he doesn't tell me until later. And this decision's already been made.

So I don't even know what to tell you. I apologize. Let's keep it moving. It's kind of just a part of the business now at this point is that coaches leave and go to other jobs that are seemingly better jobs. You just rattled off a bunch of jobs that this is on par with. That's a Big Ten Powerhouse that can do whatever it wants, AJ Hawk. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. How's Ohio State feel about this? And what is your question for Heather, AJ? Yeah, I mean, I think Ohio State people are okay with it. They understand. Penn State's coming to town November 1st. That's all they care about is beating them. Whoever the interim, we understand the interim coach will be there.

Terry Smith. Yeah, Coach Smith. I know. He coached the Gateway Gators high school football team to almost a complete blowout of the poor Mustang. where one of their guys actually touched the ball seven times, had six touchdowns. So Terry Smith understands the X's and O's. He can scheme it up, and this guy's been coaching a long time.

Western Pennsylvania legend. Terry Smith is going to be up there as interim head coach. They still got everybody, but I guess there's been a lot of decommitments. I think Justin King was tackled twice that game, once by you and once by Joe Hadley. Okay. I don't know if Joe got him, but I hope so. I would pull for Joe Hadley in that note. Anyways, Terry Smith's a dog.

Just know November 1st, the Lions are coming in. H.R. to you, AJ. I think, obviously, the future is what we're all looking ahead, too. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, with that being said, Heather, you mentioned, obviously, Coach Signetti, Matt Rule. They always say, like, hey, don't fire somebody unless you have a couple ideas, who you may bring in. Do you know, like, the small handful of people that they may be looking at? Is this going to be a big wide net?

Is it going to take a long time? Like, what's the time frame look like and getting a new coach in there? Well, they're not rushing this decision, because what they don't want to do is zero in on a coach right now who might have a downward spiral in the second half of the season, right? So let it play out see how it goes. And their AD Pat Kraft said today publicly that they will absolutely give interim head coach Terry Smith a chance of this thing. And Pat Kraft said, I will do everything I can to help Terry Smith run the table and win the rest of the season. But don't count out a name like Texas A&M coach Mike Elko as well.

He's done a fantastic job. I would not rule out anyone at this point. wide net, no rush to make it, all the money in the world to do it. Kirby's smart, might be heading up there to Penn State. You never know. Is that what you're saying? Are you saying like that when you're saying you wouldn't rule out anybody?

There's obviously few select people that are at places and we just understand that they're pillars. You're talking about any name that is, in reality, is an option for Penn State at this point? Absolutely. I mean, look down the stretch. Is Kalin-de-Bore happy at Alabama at the end of the season? I mean, Dan Lannings probably pretty set at Oregon.

How happy is Friday? I don't know the answer to all these questions. Would they leave? Would they leave? Right? That's part of the question. Okay, let's pivot away from the Penn State situation. James Franklin, we appreciate the hospitality. Hell of a run up there in Penn State, dude. Hey, boy, James.

Not easy to go in when he went in there. And obviously, the expectations are what they are at Penn State. It's just like it is at Ohio State, even though Ohio State's been there. Just like it is in other places, Alabama, where they've actually been there. Penn State's never been, really, to the mountaintop in recent history. And their fans and boosters are like, we've done everything we've popped. can to get you there. We'd like to see it happen. They move on. It's loud and he's been there a long time. I think there was like 70 employees in that building that obviously he was running.

I mean, that's a big business. You have to like kind of swing in a different way. Now let's talk about some other college football news happening in front of us, especially here in Indiana, the state of football at the moment. Go ahead, Dee Buck. Yeah, we'll stay here and go over to South Bend. You know, the fighting Irish had two losses to two top four teams now. How much better those losses look now? What's the pathway for the fighting Irish to get the playoffs. Look, Notre Dame right now has the best chance of any team in the country to run the table according to ESPN analytics.

And if they do run the table and finish 10 and 2, they've got a 50% chance to make the playoff, according to the Allstate playoff predictor. And I think those numbers line up with what the selection committee would think. Because listen, there's going to be a lot of really good 10 and 2 teams. What helps Notre Dame right now is, well, first of all, they have to beat USC, but the fact that USC is ranked, and also Navy, the undefeated midshipmen are hanging around out there. That could also be a ranked to CFP Top 25 opponents.

Okay, so let's talk about CFP and seeds and everything like that. It obviously gets very, very heated at the end of the season. You already heard Coach Saban putting some seeds down on Friday in the show. He was putting some seeds down. And if you look at the SEC schedule going forward, a lot of numbers next to teams that have to play against teams with numbers next to teams. So it's a lot of big-time matchups coming down the stretch in the SEC. Big Ten, a lot of these teams, Notre Dame as well, you kind of got the meat of the schedule almost out of the way.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Heather, where we stand right now, and we heard before the year that Tony Petiti and Greg Sankey were kind of saying, like, hey, with this playoff, like the SEC and the Big Ten should each get four teams in, period. But where we stand right now, do you think is the Big Ten a three-bid conference, given what's happening to Penn State and kind of just everyone else? You know, there isn't really anyone standing out outside of those top three teams. Is it possible the SEC is going to get like, you know, six teams in the playoff, maybe? Or how do you think this is going to shake out? SEC, SPN, Todd. I'm a Big Ten guy.

I don't want it to be true, but, man, Penn State, you really fucked us here. Yeah, but Indiana King. True, and I'll tell you what, that Iowa lost Indiana looks a whole lot better right now. Okay, don't even. They might run the table. They look good. They look good on Saturday. Okay, I'm sorry.

36-0 or something, right? 37. Well, to answer your question, every single Saturday night after these games are over, I put out a projection, and for each of the past couple of weeks, half of my top 12

at least has been SEC teams, right? I'm borderline on Tennessee. They would be on the bubble. They're at number 12 right now. It would get knocked out if the playoff were today for that fifth group of five champion. However, like, who needs automatic qualifiers

when you've got six SEC teams already in? And that was what Shane Beamer, South Carolina's coach, told me this summer when I asked him, what changed your guys' minds when you saw models from SEC Commissioner Greg Sanky? And he said, why would we limit ourselves when, if you look over the past stress of the college football playoff, we could get more than four teams in? And I think that is a very realistic scenario this year. They're going to love it. It's going to be loud. It's going to be loud.

I think home field advantage matters a lot in this thing. because obviously playing in the south is a difficult task. Playing up there in the north, we saw also a difficult task for Tennessee heading up there. And the fact that Indiana got Notre Dame, if that would have been another, if that would have been another warm weather climate had to go up there to Notre Dame. What was it, like, eight degrees. It was so cold. So freeze.

That's a game changer. I think this college football playoff is going to be special. Even if there are blowouts each week, we're seeing massive names take each other on that we very rarely get to see. That's been happening all season. Now, old school rivalry happened this past weekend. Had a much different outcome, I think, that most people would project it, especially with how Arch had been playing. Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, this is kind of a two-parter. First, did Dr. Shin kind of screw over John Mateer in Oklahoma? Did he do the surgery and say, hey, you're going to be just fine. You're going to go throw for 300 yards. Yeah, exactly. Is he from Midland? Does he think he's better than us because he's from Midland? But then the second part of the question, probably the more realistic one.

Texas is still on the national championship odds and I think everybody kind of just assumed they were dead but there they are right there below Notre Dame who you just said has a 50% chance to make the playoffs if they run the table. Is Texas not dead yet? Is there still a feeling that Arch can figure this thing out and Sark can get these guys going in the right direction and they might be able to rattle off some big wins

enough to get them back into the college football playoff? Texas is not. dead yet, but you're also talking to somebody who did not drop Texas out of my own top 25 last week after the loss to Florida because I thought they had a good defense. Good call. To your first question about John Mateer, not about his doc, it's about the Texas defense, which got after him, forced him into some mistakes, and I think exposed some things in that Oklahoma offense, other teams haven't been able to. But Texas has the 15th most difficult remaining schedule. Guys, you all watch football, you know this.

If Arch is not on his rear end, he can make some throws. He was very good when he was not under duress. That offensive line had to make strides. It seemed to start to do that. Can they consistently put it together? Because a minute they lose that third game, this is a different conversation. Okay, so let's chat about Arch Manning,

maybe getting some protection, maybe making some magic. Maybe Heise Manning. Deepa has a question for you. I know coming into the year, he was a betting favorite. favorite for Pat. I had DJ Lagway and having gone their way, either one of them, Matt, Mendoza, kind of been a rotating. Who

the hell is the Heisman favorite? Who is your Heisman pick? I hear your ESPN radio, so I'm hoping for one answer here, but who is your Heisman pick right now, Heather? Ruben Bain Jr. I am a Heisman voter and I will

vote for the best player in the country offense or defense. And he is a disruptive force. It is not necessarily in his stats, but he gets his hand on the ball, force fumble, interception. I mean, he can do it all. He draws other players to him, and he's playing on what could be the selection committee's number one team and one of the best defenses in the country. So you're going most best player as the most valuable MVP. Your argument, JJ Watt has done this argument numerous times for the NFL's MVP, where there was potentially

some years where a defensive player should have won it because they were by far. the best player that great state football field but then the whole argument goes well it's valuable is what the v stands for and quarterback touches ball every single play so bayne is certainly hell yeah awesome and an absolute monster he doesn't touch the ball every single play i appreciate the fact that you're saying hey listen i'm going with best player i'm a voter and this one i'm going with i appreciate that type of transparency i think we like that i think we like how many voters are Oh, too many. There's like 800 and some voters.

I mean, and especially when we heard about what the one voter that we heard that was college as well, not Heisman, but. Well, we don't know, actually. She had the AP voter. She might have a He might have a Heisman vote. Yeah, we have no idea. I mean, that is something. 928. 928 voters?

What are we doing? Are you one of them yet, Tom? No. What the hell? Am I the only one on set? I got to be the only one on Game Day set without one, right? Saving Pride doesn't have one. saving pride doesn't we need to stay like that i don't want to be 930 i'm okay well what's the

even number at that point um storyline coming out of the weekend for you is we fire james franklin and everybody's on a hot seat going forward is that is that your storyline or what is what are you thinking about as we move forward are you talking to me yep well as we move forward is what happens in fend state can they can they pull it together look they've got iowa Ohio State, Indiana. Can they finish the respectable murders? Pat, listen, I

covered the worst season in school history at Penn State. I was a beat writer for the Center Daily Times when Joe Paterno was three and nine. Okay, this is not that yet. Can they change it? This is different because

Penn State had a national championship team. That's the big difference. here. Can they get those guys to play to their level? There's dudes all over the field. Yeah, they all looked apart when I was up there, everybody. They all act apart, and they have 112,000 people in there through a renovation right now. I think they're going to get it right. They got fantasy football happening over there right now. Yeah. What coach you won't? Well, players, because transfer portal, you'd be able to do what you want to do. Is that ever going to work to win a national championship? We shall see. Heather, we appreciate

the hell out of you. Thanks, man. Go to steal. Hey, how about Steelers, four and one? Let's go. You're excited? You think they got a chance, win a Super Bowl? You think they got a chance? You think it was a Super Bowl winner? Don't jinx it! Okay, all right, Heather Dynich. Yeah!

So she's just enjoying a moment. Yeah. I don't want to piss off football. Guys, for instance, there's a lot of football left, AJ. There's a lot of football left. That Pittsburgh Steelers team, 4 and 1 certainly looked apart. Aaron Rogers dropping a couple in a bucket, obviously had some misses. The field was absolutely horrendous.

When's Pittsburgh going to become, and start taking football serious? That's a good question. When's Pittsburgh going to start taking football? serious in that stadium. I don't know. I caused quite a shit storm on the internet saying Pitt needs to get out of that stadium. Yes, I understand that the Steelers do not own the stadium and Pitt and Steelers both play pay to use that stadium.

But I think Pitt should pay the Steelers to even be allowed to play football in that stadium. Yeah, if you're going to share a football field or even in the city. Like, pick and go play in Johnstown or all that for I care. You have your field turf. Steelers need to play in their own stadium with their own beautiful grass and get that shit school out of that. Yeah, but what about like there is modern. technology with the turf that could make this a lot. There is super great.

They tried. They tried supergrass. It was actually worse. No, but what if they did more turfy supergrassy? They tried. It was a hybrid. It did not go well. What I'm saying? What if it was more turf, though? What if it was 80% turf, 20% supergrass? Like super duperger. You can't have that in Pittsburgh. I mean, Nardu's and the boys just be

Florida State. What's that? Nardu's and the boys just won a big game. Oh yeah. The football team, I've got no problem with football team. It's their shit fans. Okay. Go, go to a game if you actually care about the team. There's a good chunk of space downtown. They could just pave and turn into a parking lot and they could put a stadium right there for the Pitt Panthers? Yeah, it's

that's what I'm saying. And then they could come use, they could come use Accresher, they could come use Accure for their bigger games. Yeah. Because everyone, there's like two games a year where their fans show up at the games. I, from my understanding. West Virginia and whatever, West Virginia shows up because West Virginia people go as well and it also still has a thing. And if the team is good, there'll be a prime time game against like Clemson

or something, they'll fill in it. But there's not a lot of people filling that stadium up. I think that's very, very very, no, and that's not just West Virginia guy talking about this. That is... Absolutely. There's a lot of people dress like seats whenever you watch a Pitt Panther football team. And they do have Pitt Panther football fans, though. And they are a nuisance.

They need their own stadium if they want to be competitive. Put the stadium on campus. Can't have Chris Boswell. This guy's one of the greatest in the history. Yeah. There's a top five of career percentage field goals. Chris Boswell's on there, obviously. Eddie Pinheiro also on there from that.

San Francisco 49ers, which I did not expect. Justin Tucker on there, Harrison Bucker on there. And number one, I guess is Cameron Dicker, I think. Is that who Cameron Dicker, who's hit a game winner or another one against the Miami Dolphins this past weekend? We got a lot of great football happening, AJ. And I don't know if you know this. You saw the board pretty good, brother. Did you know that?

No, I honestly felt like I saw it pretty poorly when I was going through it in my brain. Yeah, well, obviously we got two games to pick this evening, so we can certainly swing this a little bit, and I can come back and tie you. But you're currently seven and six with a nine and six possibility around the bend. So let's go, AJ. This is multiple weeks in a row where you've got it figured out. I'm glad I got two games tonight to try to pad my stats a little bit but yeah there's some tough ones out there I feel like I should have picked

this a little bit better Jacksonville won't kill me I didn't like that pick yeah Jacksonville kind of surprised me but I think that Seattle team is really good like I think that's what we're learning and they're able to handle travel god they go into Pittsburgh 10 am game win they go into Jacksonville get a win it's like Sam darner's a real deal go ahead brother yeah I want to hembo stats was that the Seattle Seahawks are the first team since I think the 2006 to 2008 Patriots to have nine straight road wins while winning the turnover battle. Unbelievable stuff.

And I think McDonald's career on the road is like... I think that makes him like 10 of 11 now after beating the Jags. Maybe even 11 to 12. Maybe even 11 of 12. His team's real road warriors. And they're taking long ass haul. Seattle's so far away. Yeah, it's weird that he's not,

especially with the home field advantage that we all remember of Seattle. His record at home is kind of the opposite of that, which is super weird. But yeah, Sam Darnal, when we all, saw him play his best football last year. We all kind of had questions about Minnesota letting them go. Moving Cooper Cup in there. His receiver numbers aren't really off the charts,

but what he does, even in like the blocking game and all those things that kind of don't show up on the stats sheets are great. And then Jackson's been in jigbo. We talk about him a lot. He was a dog last year with Gino. Then D.K. moves on. He becomes a clear cut number one, and he's been unbelievable.

Not only in the slot, where most people view him as just a slot receiver. On the outside, he is just as good. Lead the league in yards. Yeah, he's a dog. us now is the quarterback guru, the football expert man who's always on television during the football season. He's really handsome, likes to eat when he's on with us. I don't know if he'll be able to do that from a hotel room currently in Atlanta because he's calling tonight's game between the

Bills and the Falcons at 715 on ESPN alongside Lewis Riddick and Chris Fowler. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rolofsky. Yeah. You look so cool, dude. Hell yeah. God, the sun's shining. Look at the clouds. It looks beautiful down in Atlanta. Is they going to open the top of that thing up, Mercedes? Dude, they are, yeah, I guess we found out today in the production meeting, they're opening up the stadium, and I guess that's a surprise

because it doesn't happen, the roof often, if at all, ever. So it has a balloon knot type open. That's how people describe it, a balloon knot is what they say it most likely depicts. I hope you guys get a drone shot above that as it opens, you know, because it's pretty sick. It is a marvel the way they built that stadium. I think it's only like maybe $1.5 or $2 billion, $3 billion over budget or something like that, whatever they piece it together.

But it is beautiful. We love that stadium down there, properly priced. And it's hosting a big one tonight. The bills can become the third five-in-one team in the NFL. How do you feel about the way the bills are playing? And this Falcons defense, are they going to be a problem for Josh Allen? Yeah, I think this is a difficult matchup for Buffalo and a good matchup for Atlanta. I think so, number one, in talking to Buffalo, the thing that stood out,

because we all thought going into the conversation with them coming off a New England game was, this is a team that's, you know, had their run because they've been great on turnovers and takeaways and really good on penalties. And that wasn't the case against New England. And it was interesting to hear them all talk about how they felt like they just didn't play the how, the way they're phrasing it, was, you know, running to the football, helping each other up off the pile, locking through the whistle. Like, they didn't feel they did that against New England.

And they were all like, listen, turnovers, that's something we emphasize. it'll take care of itself, not tripping over that. But I think that'll be interesting to see how that plays out tonight offensively for Buffalo is like that they don't think that they played the how of how they play football to their standard last week. Dude, Atlanta is interesting defensively because, you know, for a team that is so young and so talented, like they unapologetically have said they went all in. You know, like they took that first round pick of next year's trade to go back in and get

Pierce from Tennessee. They want to go after teams physically and be like the fastest team defensively in the NFL. And you got Walker and Pierce, their two rookie defensive ends or outside backers, they believe that as a team and as a staff, like, they're just on the cusp of breaking out here and like really starting to turn it on. So they're fast and they're athletic defensively. I want to see how they match up against Buffalo who just wants to mall you running the football. And then offensively flipping it, I don't know if I've ever heard a coach talk about

running an offense through a running back the way that Atlanta runs their offense through Bajon. You know, they are just like, we run every play through Bajon. Like we want to move them, we want to throw it to them. We can throw them real NFL routes. We can get them in a slot.

We can put them as a receiver. We want to throw them screens. We want to hand it off to them. We would snap it to them if we could. And so, you know, Buffalo's got a defense that has struggled against the run. If Oliver plays tonight, that's huge. But I think Atlantic can have success running the football against them tonight. And this is the number one and number two offense in the NFL when it comes to the time of possession.

So I think, like, possessions will be huge for both offenses trying to score points and obviously being good in the red zone. Did you say Bajon? Because I think I say Bijon. You're saying Bijon. I have absolutely no clue the right way to say it. there you've met him did you not I mean you're acting like a journalist he came up this year I think

and said I think is how Dan has said it because we've been saying Vajon Bajon now yeah so Bajon Bajon. Bajon. Bajon. Bajon. I think so. I mean if you go for like the pronunciation thing on my board is that what's that called what's that called if you had to guess if you had to guess what the pronunciation thing is called on your board just

what that is described as the pronunciation thing But here, for his name, it's B-E-E-Z-H-A-N. See, that would be B-J-H-A-N. See, that would be B-J-H-A-N. And I think there's one person that makes all those boards, and that one person, I think, missed the one interview that Bijon potentially did whenever he talked about that.

Let's talk about the other side. You talk about Bajon being every single position for him. James Cook, since Joe Brady has become the offense coordinator, has been cooking his ass off. What's the prop that you found tonight for James Cook in the first quarter condom? He currently is plus 144 to have over half a receiving yard in the first quarter. That feels right. James Cook?

I think you think tonight, I mean, obviously Atlanta's defense, you just talked about how good they can be. And you think it's a problem potentially for the bills. Are we going to get some magic tonight, you think? Especially with how Atlanta views Bejohn and Josh Allen's in prime time. I mean, is there over under 49 a half? Obviously, that's a lot of points. Do we feel? Is that how you feel and is it what they're expecting?

Yeah, I do think it's an offensive football game. I really do. I think because if you think about it from Buffalo's perspective and Cook, right? You know, I don't know necessarily how Atlanta is going to come out defensively and play. Atlanta is coming off of the buy and, again, young pieces on their defense. You could sit there and live in the world where you want to play zone and keep everything in front of you versus Josh Allen. You're going to get smoked. This is offensive line that's one of the best in the NFL.

They'll just continue to hand it off to cook, and Josh has become elite at that. And so then there's the reality of like, okay, well, you got to go challenge them. And you might sit there and say, Buffalo doesn't have a guy on the outside that scares you that much, but then Buffalo's so good at motions and Shakir and cook out of the backfield and Kincaid. And so I think that's going to be interesting tonight is watch how Atlanta wants to try and play Buffalo defensively. And I talked about it before. I think Atlanta's offense, dude, six first-round picks on their offense. Six. I mean, they're so talented, and they could run the football so well.

In Buffalo's defense, defense really struggles against stopping the run. Again, no at all over the past couple weeks. Ed's a big, big, big deal. But if Milano doesn't play, that's a huge deal for their linebacking core. And so I just think Atlanta can have a lot of success running the football as well. I think this could be a very high-scoring game, yeah. DeBott's got the last question about your game tonight. Yeah, you're talking about the run game and how they're using Bijon, Bajon, number seven, back in the back field. What are you seeing from Michael Pennick, Jr.?

We know exactly who Josh Allen is, but what are you seeing from Michael Pennix? I know they run a ton of pistol. I don't know how you feel about that now, but how do you feel about that offense as a whole with Michael Pennix, been the trigger man? Yeah, they run pistol more than, I think twice more than anybody in the NFL. I've kind of shared my thoughts, and I understand the pros, and I believe that there are puns to it. I think Michael is this, still really young when it comes to NFL reps.

Obviously, everyone knows really big arm down the field. He's more accurate down the field than he is closer in those short passing range or passing routes. And so he finally hit some of those two weeks ago against Washington. I'd like him to move Michael a little bit more. I feel like Michael kind of catches the ball and in that shotgun and pistol world. And when number one is there, I would tell you this, D, but I think he's throwing. the ball like fifth fastest in the NFL. And then also, I think he's hit, like been hit this year, second least in the NFL behind Sam Darnold. So for a guy that's kind of a big

armed, big bodied guy to throw the ball down field, they don't do it a ton. And so it's a little bit more of a catch and throw offense at least through four or five weeks of this season. I'd like to see more play action. I'd like to see them try to stretch the field vertically. I'd like to see to move him off of that launch point. You know this is a defender. Like if a quarterback's catching 40 snaps a game and throwing it and 38 of them are just kind of that five yards behind the center, I just think that's advantage defense. And so I'd like to see them throwing the ball a little bit more.

The thing I'll be paying attention to the most for him tonight is in their short passing game, everything under 10 yards. Can he have elite focus and ball placement on those things? like it's the 40-yard or downfield because the big throws downfield, he's really good. But those short throws right now, I think that's something he has to be really good at, and they think that he really has to grow in for them.

Fernando Mendoza, for instance. He's putting that ball on a face mask, basically every single time somebody's running there. The elite accuracy is what you're referring to. We're not saying Pennix doesn't have that. He does, and that's what was so special about that Washington run. He was thinking about the Roman Empire all the time and dropping that thing into a bucket.

The easy one is the easy one, seemingly are always the problem because that's like the high focus ones. It happened to me. I think it happens to a lot of people in different jobs. It's like, this seems easy. Don't let your brain win. Don't let your brain win. You still got to have incredible stuff.

There's another Monday night football game on tonight that you will not be able to watch in real time, but I'm sure tomorrow morning you'll have full takes about the entire four quarters. AJ has a question about the Bears and Command. Tonight. Yes, tonight when you're watching the Bears commanders on your flight home when you're rewatching, I guess, what should us in real time, when we're watching this game, what should we be paying attention to? know Caleb has been playing well, the Bears on two-game win-street, they seem to figure some

things out. What will you be paying attention to? And you didn't deserve that. Yeah, I probably did. Number one, how does Caleb play under pressure? That's been the area that he's grown the most in this year. You know, this whole off-season, AJ, it was everything about Caleb's got to play in rhythm and in timing, and he's got to play faster. If you kind of watch his tape and then you look at every single number that has value to it, he's actually playing a little bit slower than he did last year, the only area that he's playing faster and is dealing with the pressure, he's playing not only faster, but much better, making much better decisions. The ball is coming out of his hands quicker. I think there's a lot more answers to their offense. Armstrong for Washington

as a pass rusher has been very good, very good, Doran's Armstrong. So how does Caleb handle pressure? I think it's advantage matchup-wise, Chicago. I've talked about this, and Dee Butt knows it. Washington's defensively living in a little bit of a world of they, want to be a man coverage defense, I don't believe they have the horses to play that style that they want right now. And if they do, there's advantages for your tight ends and your backs in the past game. They're just are. There's advantages to take shots down field because they have defensive backs that want to make plays on the football. So you can take shots with double moves and whatnot. So does Chicago hit some shots down the field on a double move to the tight ends and

backs have a lot of success in the past game? And then for Chicago defensively, You better handle Washington's four-by-one stuff. Washington gets in these four-by-one formations, and they stretch you sideline to sideline horizontally, and there will be a sixth offensive lineman on the field when they're doing it. It's kind of like how much I love what Pittsburgh's doing offensively with their stuff. And all of a sudden you get like a run at you with six offensive linemen. Jaden could be a runner, and then you could have a perimeter screen.

It's like you're getting this vertical stretch and this horizontal stretch at the same time. So I think how Chicago's defense handles that. Cliff Kingsbury, in his bag, bro. Yeah. What's the guy's name? Howmummy? Yes. Air raid.

Yeah, Mummy. Cliff kind of comes from that world, doesn't he? You got that entire thing spread out. Take a couple college setups, put it into the NFL. Then also we got a quarterback that can handle absolutely everything. We got a couple great matchups here on Monday, that we do. I mean, legitimately, these are very good matchups.

Caleb Jaden's awesome. Can't wait for that. We'd watch that. And then obviously, Bill's Falk. You got double header next week as well? Yeah, double header next week. Tampa at Detroit and Houston at Seattle. Okay.

Okay, we're starting to hit it. Football's finding its rhythm. We can't wait to watch both of those games. You just mentioned a team right there that you didn't have a lot of positive to say going in. We started to wonder if you had maybe personal crimes against a couple of people that are maybe in that building. You just said something positive and you put one of your, like, cryptic tweets dot, dot, dot, dot

don't. Yep, Dan, I would say, I will bite. You did do one of those things where you put out the tweet where no one knows what the hell you're talking about. It could be bad, could be good, could be somewhere. in the middle. So I just wanted to, you know, get your opinion on what this meant. I really, really like Pittsburgh's offense.

Whoa! Daddow! Dad, that's Arnie Smith and Aaron Rogers over there. You know that? Football, baby. Mount Washington? It's really, really, really impressive. It's like I think the way, one, there's no question they know who they are, their identity,

what they should and should not do. This first play the game, I love it. So, like, the way I kind of categorize the offense. after a couple weeks and I was like it's creatively cautious and that's meant as a positive and a compliment here's the way I view it right now they started this six offensive line package where there's six offensive linemen on the field and sometimes there's one tight end sometimes there's two tight end this is like three or four weeks of it now when they started it there was really only one play out of it right they're doing a lot of this I'm going to get to

this there's only one play out of it yesterday they had six different plays out of that six offensive line package. So, like, I love when teams take simple things and just make them look complicated to the defense. So now they're doing things, at least from an offensive perspective, as simple for them, but it's complicated to the defense. I think the second thing is this, and DeBuck could speak to it a little bit more from a defensive perspective tone than I can, but, like, their past game is really one of two things. It's either quick game, like right now it's happening. And if you play zone, Aaron's finding a completion. If you play man, it's one-on-one, or they're moving the pocket. They're getting Aaron outside. And so it's, it's,

that's the cautious element of it. And the thing is, they, they see it so well. Like, if you're going to play DK one-on-one in their quick game, Aaron's going to throw it to DK. And they just think that they'll get those creatives or explosives out of that. But rarely do you see them just drop Aaron back in the middle pocket, hold, hold. It's just not who they are. I think it's really, really, really smart offensive football in Pittsburgh right now. Very impressed. And it all revolves around how to do we keep Aaron alive? Yes.

You know, because the offensive line was not great early. It's like, how do we even know if Aaron's a good quarterback for us if he can't do anything because he can't protect him? Well, we got a six foot seven, 320 pound tight end that we can add in here. They start doing that jumbo package basically on every play. Yeah, man. And then basically say, hey, now we can protect them. Let's start drawing up plays.

This might be the evolution of football here. This might become the next step, especially with how easy they've made it look and how good they've made it look. This is the best Aaron Rogers looked in years. Yeah. This is the best in R.D. Smith offense has looked in years. This is the best of Pittsburgh Steelers' offense has looked in years, and they're doing it in their own way, which I think is special.

Yeah, and I think it all kind of really starts with Darnow Washington and how they can use him, because he's obviously an offensive tackle that runs like a tight end, and you saw it on the first play there yesterday. So he's playing like 90% of the snaps now, and then you got Jonu, who they're getting a lot of end-arounds with and doing some quick stuff with and screens too, which is awesome. And then Spencer Anderson is the six offensive linemen that who I bring in. He had 17 snaps, I believe,

yesterday so yeah they know who they are they are not like dan said there is no five seven stop seven step drops straight back where aaron has a chance to get clobbered off the edge hey j hold on dan one quick thing here hey j tell me about erin moving bro like legit because at the beginning and i think last year with the achilles i think there was a lot of people calling him old he takes a lot of pride in his old athleticism does he not a j yeah he's got that sneaky athleticism too you know whatever you play he can play basketball dodgeball whatever you do he can do it so yeah i think we're seeing him like we're seeing him it seems like he feels very very healthy he's moving around well man that's the thing i think people going in weren't real worried if he could move and

elude any pressure and he obviously can go ahead dano sorry about it no i think the premise of their offense right now is just being very efficient and that's that's why i go to that six offensive line tight end or double tight end package is you know their philosophy is hey let's get four or five yards because then they can get into a quick game and if they're going to play zone it's a first down because Aaron's seen so many defenses and he knows the vacancy of zone and then it now like as I watch it I'm like oh this is why we trade for

DK because then we're just creating all these one-on-ones there's not a lot of teams that are going to be able to cover DK one-on-one and you're just constantly moving Aaron and so it's it is a reality where like they are they do not want to be in third and long no no team really wants to but

it's just a conscious effort of them constantly being like let's be efficient I really last year they were doing some like having some success and you guys remember me saying like hey it ain't good enough on offense it's not going to beat teams that actually matter I feel differently about this group like I watched this offense for the past their weeks and I go this offense can be good enough to beat a buffalo a Kansas City an indie that because they're they're efficient they're efficient man Aaron Rogers currently sitting at 150 to 1 to win the MVP oh man They're currently four in one.

If they have 13-14 wins and Aaron Rogers brings the Pittsburgh Steelers back into playoff and Super Bowl contention, there's going to be a lot of buzz around Aaron Rogers winning the MVP. He's not the only player, though. There's a lot of guys making their run for it right now. Yeah, Dan, you could argue that Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career, and unfortunately the Cowboys give up 40 to 50 points every week. So is that basically their recipe for success? It's like, hey, Dak, we're going to need you to throw six touchdowns every week to give us just a sliver of a chance to win.

And then on the flip side, Bryce Young and the Panthers, is that the type of win you think they can finally kind of turn the tide for that entire franchise because that was massive. Yeah, I was so impressed with what Carolina did yesterday. I was so impressed with, I mean, their offensive line, I promise you, it will be on AQ's top five group. I'd be surprised if they're not number one. They kicked the absolute crap out of Dallas's defensive front in their double team game. I mean, their double teams were just, you rarely see in that league where double teams literally move defensive tackles five, six, seven yards down the field. They were moving people at the line of scrimmage. I wrote down the name number 87 too, because I don't want to be disrespectful.

But Bryson Cremaine for them as a blocker, as a wide receiver blocker, was absolutely off the chart. with their tight ends. I thought Bryce was really good. Tet McMillan looks so smooth. I mean, Ted McMillan, don't overthink it, guys. When you watch, he looked so smooth. Rico was outstanding. They dominated at the line of scrimmage. I think it's a huge win for them.

Absolutely. Now, like, they get a little bit momentum going to Carolina. I'll say this about Dallas. I don't think Dallas can, I think Dallas has to adopt the Detroit philosophy with Dan Campbell. I really don't believe anything less than fourth and four they should not go for. they should go for everything fourth and four or less. Your defense is not a good unit.

It's not going to get better. Teams know it. It's a good offense. Dak is playing good. George was outstanding yesterday's making himself a ton of money. I really don't believe. Once you get into scoring position, Aubrey's a sensational. I think Dallas should be 80% going for it on fourth and five or less.

How about on-side kicks too? Just do it. Might as well. I don't think you can. Oh, you can nowadays, right? As long as you declare it. Now you're losing, though. You've got to be losing, I think.

but no matter the time of the game if you're losing you can do it in the first quarter to down I think so yes I think if you're losing you're allowed to do it I think they change the rule from the fourth quarter to open it up because I think teams were like well there might be a time where our defense can't stop a fucking nose and we would like to be able to get the ball back because if they start on the 50 or if they start on the 35

it doesn't matter it's three plays so there's a chance that that has been taken from us with this new kickoff rule I will say though there's more electricity from the kickoff rule And I will say this about the Carolina Panthers. Rico Dowdell coming into our lives, being who he is, is awesome. How did he describe this Dallas Cowboys defense where he said all he wanted to do was get a win against him boys because he's playing there again?

They weren't buckled up. They need to be buckled up. And if they're not buckled up, we're not punting. We're going for onside kicks. Connor has the last question for you here, Dano. Yeah, Dano. Love when you say yesterday. It's the best.

but Justin Fields and the Jets it's been quite the scene I think a lot of us thought at the beginning of the season maybe Aaron Glenn is rowing in the right direction maybe Fields and Garrett Wilson are going to work out and turns out they fucking suck again dude

but what do you think about that whole entire situation are they just going to sell everybody Breece Hall to the Chiefs Garrett Wilson to I don't know the bucks do you expect that to happen because we actually are not we Pat actually apologized to all of England because this wasn't football.

It was the most disgusting thing that's ever been graced solely on its own as its own game without anything else on. It was the worst display of football I think the NFL has ever put on. Actual stat, seven less first downs in the history of international football. Yeah, that offensive tape was a total disaster. It's as bad as an offensive tape as I've watched in years. I'm surprised because I really enjoyed time with them a couple weeks ago having Monday night football and was really impressed with Aaron Glenn. It's not equating to wins right now, so I can't defend that. But that offensive tape was absolutely terrible.

Garrett Wilson's career is like dying there. He's being wasted town-wise. I've defended Justin a lot, and I don't think yesterday's performance is totally on Justin, but Garrett's open. Like, Garrett's open on tape yesterday. And my thing is this with, dude, if it's man coverage, just throw the ball to him. I don't care what the route says. I don't care what the reed says. If it's man coverage, throw him the ball.

And we're like the final play of the game, throw him the ball. And so the Jets got a really difficult situation right now because it's not going well offensively. Here's the thing also. They paid the perimeter before they paid the front. Yep. Really. Like they paid sauce and they paid Garrett. They're two really, really, really good players.

I don't necessarily know if that's the best way to go about rebuild. I think they have to entertain trading everybody of value. Absolutely, because you're 0 and 7 or 0 and 6, and it doesn't look promising. Yeah, and they're trying to turn it around anyways. They're trying to change the entire culture. And remember, Aaron Glenn told Aaron Rogers, go ahead and pack it up and get the hell out of the building. Well, I just don't know that when the player says it.

Like, when, if you're Garrett Wilson, you've done five or six years of this now, Just signed a new deal. Just signed a new deal. Just signed a new deal. This is just like Miles Garrett. I think it's hard for people to find any empathy for Miles Garrett because he wanted to go somewhere. Remember, he wrote the entire letter about saying, it's not just about being all pro or something like that. I want to win games.

And then everybody's like, oh, Miles Garrett's leaving. Miles Garrett's leaving. Then he gets $40 million a year resets the entire market. It's like, all right, Miles Garrett knows what he's signing up for whenever he goes to Cleveland Browns, which is the same thing Joe Thomas signed up for, even though he wanted to win. I'm not saying they don't deserve to win because of how great of the football players. they are. But I think it's just like Tyreek going to Miami. When Tyreek decided to go to Miami

and get the biggest check, everybody's hard to have any empathy. It's like, hey, you decided to leave and go get more money. You made that decision to chase the bag. I think that is, it's hard for people to feel empathy for that. You know, like Garrett, just signed a deal. Yeah, no, I mean, it's a fair point. I understand all that.

Holy shit! Breaking. Adam Schaefter told us in the last hour, I don't forecast any coaches getting fired at any time in the near future, but there's a chance. that I get off this call and I get a text and somebody's been fired, they have. We can guess it.

Callahan fired Tennessee Titans. You didn't get it. Oh, Danley. We would like to say, Coach Callahan, obviously following Mike Frable down there in Nashville. From what I've learned about the people of Nashville and how they felt about Mike Frable, not only the coach, but the human he was, and how connected he was to the community. And obviously, the unceremonious exit that he had from the Tennessee Titans. And then also being able to earn the number one seed for the Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans in the AFC,

when you read like a hundred guys on the IR. Like Vrable was, I think, beloved by Titans fans. I think there wasn't a lot of positive. I think Vrable was certainly one of them in the community. So whenever he's just kind of kicked to the curb and then Callahan's brought in and it goes the way it goes. And then Rian, obviously, and it goes the way it goes. I think this guy was swimming upstream a lot.

Yeah. And obviously it didn't work out. And the way he handled, I think, and like kind of represented the Titans. I don't think a lot of people in the community were like, we just went from Vrable to this guy getting into a podcast. Paul Koharski every day. So not that Vrabel didn't get into it with Paul Kuharski, but Vrable also put the pads on, punch people, won games, and everything like that.

So I think this was kind of a, is the fit still a thing that is obtainable? And then also, how's the product on the field? They've been not fun to watch. Like Cam Ward, fun to watch. He's been miserable. This might help him out, actually. This might make his life a lot better, even though it has to certainly suck. first firing of the NFL season Dano you thought it was going to be maybe Miami is that what you thought I'm not giving away what I thought

but I'm sure I mean I know Cali I've played for Cali it's a results business they were bad they were bad God bless Cam Ward this is why quarterbacks fail man now first year of the NFL doesn't matter

and it's a coaching search everything will be about Cam Ward they got to get a lot more talent on this roster but it'll be all about Cam Ward. The next tire will be all about Cam Ward. AJ Callahan was 4 and 19 as a head coach with Tennessee Titans. And obviously if he won the next 15, he'd be at 500. That seems like a little bit of a tall task.

Is that what the Titans are? Go ahead, Dano. No, let AJ, let my brain think for a second of coaching replacements. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, Dan, you go through the list in your head of who is going to take the job up to Tennessee Titans. Yeah, I guess, Dan, who do you think they will be targeting here? That's a good question, AJ.

It's a good question, AJ. Yeah, yeah, I mean, immediately this is off the top of my head. I would go Joe Brady, offensive coordinator from Buffalo. He's under. John Gruden? I don't know. Gruden. I hear Gruden his name.

Gruden in Nashville. Gruden in Nashville. Grud is to be back in coaching. Like, I have heard that from multiple people that he desperately wants to be back in coaching. DC for the Chargers? Clint Kubiak has been great. Mentor from the Chargers defensively. but you got to with those ones

like you got to make sure that the offensive coordinator is a stud because everything's going to be about Cam Ward you go first time here Coach. Hey Mike McCarthy's out there boom is that what you think I mean I would want to go with an established coach who's been there before yeah

yeah and he would look I assume Cam Ward would be something to get him going I assume now he's on fire Connor was getting upset that you didn't say I mean you suck dude wake up what do you mean I need a sucker to him to use my brain to get together some coaching

some coaching candidates so we think I mean come on well then AJ gave him enough time to think about it he didn't think about and he did like 10 seconds relax it did come out of nowhere Schaefter said it's not going to happen and then he said but there's a chance and it did so we apologize to Coach Callahan

obviously the football world is what it is you know that as a coach especially coming up in the family of coaches results oriented business for a 19 in stake it didn't feel like it was going to get any better maybe Nashville find something that's a better fit for them. And Dano, we can't wait to hear you tonight on the call. Brothers, you continue to really brainstorm all the right answers.

Use them tonight. Unload on that thing. We can't wait to hear you and Lou and Fowler. You're the man, ladies of gentlemen, that's Danor Loves. Yay. Mike McCarthy, Donner, National. No. Hell yeah. I mean, Donner, Tutsis. I don't feel sorry if a coach you get fired anymore.

Yeah, it's tough, too. Amen. 49 mil, James Franklin, getting, be a professional golfer if he wants. That's a pretty sweet gig. Yeah. You know, just got to pick up and move your family. A lot easier of 49 years? Yeah, right.

Okay. All right, we'll see you tomorrow after tonight's big games. We're going to make the picks on the other side. I feel like we really nailed that. Yeah, I know a lot of coaches, you know, because it's not just the head coach, obviously, all the assistants. Sure, right.

But they're all getting paid, too. Yes. You know, I have some friends that are assisting coaches that have been fired from places, and they're getting paid like $2.5 million for the next three years, and they're like $2.5 million, pretty good fucking money, bro. Yeah, I'm golfing.

Yeah, play golf every day. I see my kids. I'm doing that entire thing. And then maybe that third year where I'm making the two and a half million for it, I'll get back and I'll try to find my way back. But honestly, I mean, I might start business. Yeah. We have seen the residual effects it takes on the kids, though.

It's not good. Yeah, it's not good. Mitt is very much a, uh, whoa God. Yeah, true. Yeah, but he's the outlier in his family. Everybody else is like smart and good sports and stuff. Engineers and stuff. Yeah.

Mitt's a bit of an engineer on his own. We've seen him put together some of like the chairs and the tables in here. He's actually pretty good at that. What's that place that has all the shit from Sweden?

IKEA. Yeah. It's like, Mitt can beat IKEA. Yes. Which, hey. Twice on Sundays. That boy, Mitt.

This has been bringing it. Yeah, with that being said, there's two chairs in the gazebo. The screws fell out. You can't sit in them anymore. That is true. Yeah, but that's IKEA football right there. That's true.

Thank you, Mitch. Good job, Mitt. Mick conquers these things. He doesn't. Like, for real. He's, and he'll stay focused and locked in. It takes a lot of patience. But Mitt is one of those guys, which I do think he learned from his dad, special teams, coordinator,

bounced around a lot of jobs. I mean, from Utah, Montana, Atlanta, St. Louis, Indy. Now he's in Vegas. I mean, he's been everywhere. He grew up, I think, mostly here in Indy whenever I was playing through his high school year, so I think he calls it home. But I think, like, if you give Mitt a task, I think growing up in a football family, like, always workers, feels like.

especially because, hey, it's a whole road. It's almost like rock star's life. Like, yeah, we're going to have to pick up a move. We don't have any home. We're rolling stones. Like, that's how coach is feeling act? James Franklin up there. How many years was he up there for?

12? Yeah, a long time. That's a long time, dude. 70 people in his building. And he's overseen. And now all of them have to wonder what's next for me. Like, is the new guy going to keep us, like, all of that? And is Terry Smith automatically in charge of all those people?

Because he's the interim head coach. Or does he go to Kraft? Yeah, does he go to Kraft? It's so hard in college, though. How do you shore up all the recruits? How do you get the decommitments? What do you do? That's why you want to get someone there as fast you can.

But you have to wait until someone makes a long playoff, Ron, if you want to try to steal a big time guy. Maybe that's why they did it so early, though. They're like, let's get this out of the way now. So then, you know, throughout the season, we can work on the answer. You know, because whenever a transfer portal opens up, we need to have answer by then. Yeah, definitely by that. Because if we're doing it after that, obviously you're fucked,

just like we saw with North Carolina. this just hit us right now, AJ. This is me thinking of this for first time. I'm assuming other people have thought of that. But the fact that they did do it early and these other schools did it early, you having it figured out by first transfer portal window, especially if you have access to all the money is a huge deal. So like your current decommitments, it's like, all right, we'll see. But you might be able to get them back depending upon who it is. And whoever you bring in next, they're going to want their people. It's an interesting, interesting little game here. Yeah, that's like the decommitments ultimately do not

matter at all because like Penn State isn't going to wake up tomorrow and they're like hey actually you only have $500,000 build your roster next year like that's not happening so like whoever the new guy is whenever that gets decided they're still going to have the pick of the litter for all the best players in the nation and with the transfer portal but I'm sure that that is tough that now you kind of just especially if you're one of these guys who's maybe interested in it you're kind of just on like pins and needles like okay well I have to focus on what I'm doing with my current team No, remember, they're not talking. Remember, coaches don't hear any of them.

Sure. It's just the agents behind the scenes. What are your thoughts on? I mean, they're set up for success still. You still got the resources. You still have a good recruiting pipeline. I always look at coaches where they're starting in the area. You got a great recruiting state with Pennsylvania and Ohio right there.

But I know they want you saying, you guys were saying they wanted to fire him early. He could not show back up and be the head coach today after losing to UCLA in Northwestern and back-to-back. Home. Northwestern at home is. Yeah, that can't happen. He was there for 12 years. This is his, this is his culture. This is his building.

To his credit, what they were to what they are now. Like, I said, thanks for the success and congrats on the success up there. And I immediately got a bunch of Penn Stateers. They were like, what's the success? Because that is legitimately how people feel. It's like, I don't know, dude.

They're getting $700 million renovation in the stadium. They're still selling out. They were in the fucking playoffs last year. You know, National Championship hopes. It's like, that's not easy to do. And the fans are like, well, how come Ohio State and fucking Michigan are in there every single, God damn. Boom. That is literally all the Penn State people think about.

That is what their thought is like, we can't even brag that we are the big tent. Like we can't even do, especially Oregon comes in last year. And Oregon does what Oregon does. It's like that's where Penn State wants to be. They're donors and everybody feels like they are, AJ. And it's like, that's the expectation. And that's just one of those jobs, even though they haven't got there in a while. And they didn't have, I just looked, for the six seasons before,

James Franklin got there. They did not have more than eight wins. So, like, he took them from that to where they are now, which, and now they're looking for a guy to take them from what James Franklin did to a national championship contender. But as far as, like, the D commitments and stuff like that, as soon as you get a new head coach, those are going to be your first calls. And the thing that's happened, there wasn't a lot of coaches fired last year. There's a lot this year, and they're all happening right now because everyone wants the first pick the litter on that next head coach. And if you miss out on that, that's probably led to it as well. AJ, I'd like to say, we appreciate James Franklin for the kindness he has shown our show.

He always been great. He legit has always been very open, really cool. I agree. He's been very open and talked to us about everything. And we've acknowledged the pressure on him, too, because we got a lot of Penn State people around us. Like, I have a lot of Penn Stateers around me. I grew up, obviously, in Pittsburgh.

A2 Shipley comes in every single week. It's like, I hear how these people feel on a regular basis, and the way they think should be happening. And then I lost the Northwestern at home. It's like, this guy just forked over 25, million dollars to build the stadium up and you're going to lose the Northwestern in here? I don't, I think it was a lot. SIGs out there winning big time games.

SIGs out there. Yes. Winning big time games. That does not help at all. We know that. How about that game, dude? How about SIG, dude? For real. This is back to back to years. They have to rebuild twice now. They got more, they got guys. Winning in Oregon. That right there, like that's a program win that that's going to be on the wall forever. And I think SIGO is going to underplay. I just know the road victory or whatever. But that's a huge deal to go into Oregon and beat them,

especially being Indiana, like you said, we think of them from before times as a basketball school, and now it's a legit football school. A lot of people saying, yeah, they're a good team. It's Austin, though. Like, this is Austin. People don't win in Austin. It's far. The weather's going to be what it's going to be.

The crowd is insane. It's a Pacific Northwest crowd, so the crowd is always going to be loud. It feels like that region up there has good hooligans, good fan base, good loud crowd, and everything like that. And it's like, I don't know. It just felt like it wasn't a night game. No. You know, it felt like there was some things that were kind of leaning, like, maybe this is when SIG's team says, hey, we've been here before we can do this.

Like, that is a, that's a huge step for a team to take, I think. And you can say what you want about Iowa, but, like, playing at Iowa is a hostile environment. It's a bigger stadium than Aughton is. Like, for them to kind of, like, that was like their, you know, and SIG said it after they beat the shit out of Illinois, he was like, that game is in the past now. Like, we'll have a, we'll have a true test next week in that road game. So I think it's after you do that and you win the way they did. It's like, realistically, we can go anywhere and we can beat anyone.

I don't know if everyone else in the country feels that. But, like, in here, we know we're good enough to go anywhere and beat anybody. And after the game, Fernando Mendoza and Surratt had a little bit of an interview. This is how it went. Also, I want to give a quick shout out to my guy, Pat McAfee for shouting us out. Kesee's friends, my guy, Steve Levy, and also Boston Connor. Let's go. Go Hoosiers.

Come in! Hoosiers for life, baby. Let's go, brother. I use Sig and Signetti forever. I use Sig and Signetti forever. No, but I'd like to say, whenever I heard that, I was watching it live and then there was, Jenny Dell gave a hilarious,

all right, all right, ESPN people on CBS right now. Because there's people that are in her ear or that are just not happy that that is happening. At that moment, I thought she handled it hilariously and greatly.

But whenever you talk about Mendoza and the boys hearing us, I think that's cool. But I also think that because we're in Indianapolis, like we see them you know like i think i got eyes on this hoosers team more than maybe most people do because i'm turning on the local news and i'm watching mendoza fucking spit i mean i'm watching him elite shit i'm watching this and i'm like is everybody seeing this and then the illinois lost a lot of people picked illinois i was the only one to pick indiana up there in game then it's not

just the boys on the desk it's like a lot of people were like that was funny sig iup we're not doing that again they wanted to count them out and then they just steamroll them and then like you said Sig, everybody just saw it in the next week, like, oh, that wasn't a... And then people were picking Illinois to win the next week. It's like, well, are we going to say anything about this Indiana team's for real? It's like, I think the quarterback makes their offense very, very dangerous. And on defense, at all three levels, had a nice tape on it, it's like all three levels, they got experience, they got all Americans everywhere.

It's like, they feel like they're for real. And I think Sig, although he'll never say it, I think he feels much more comfortable in those massive games as well. Oh, yeah, for sure. When you get a win like that on the road, like they're... There is no environment that you're not confident going into. And having a quarterback like Mendoza, I mean, he always picks the right spots. He's very accurate to ball.

And physically on defense, I feel like they can line up with anybody and punch them in the mouth. And we always talk about, you know, being on the field, when we call the playoff games just looking at both squads just physically. I still don't think Indiana matches up getting off the bus with these guys. But when it comes to actually plan and turn on tape and seeing who's punching who in the mouth, they've done it at the highest level. This is a huge, huge win for SIG. But the job like this, like Penn State.

Whoa, whoa, those aren't going to be the car. He is going to be the hottest than him. Matt Rul. He should see the house. Matt Rul. They did get raves after last season on Cuban recently because of SIG. I said he was going to put more into the end of Hill. Who do we see being the next coach?

Well, I just saw something about SIG at Indiana that, like, it made a lot of sense. It was like, yeah, he could go to Penn State for an extra, what, three million bucks a year or whatever it is that they're going to decide to pay him but like for an older guy the chance for like they might end up naming that fucking stadium after six years created a program yeah exactly like created a big 10 football program his legacy will be insane if he decides to stay at indiana and we've heard him like he's got a beautiful house you know like why why would he be looking to he's he said it and it was they're showing it from last year he was like you know it was kind of tongue and cheek but he's like why would i leave indiana he's like we are an emerging

superpower right now. Like, you know, everyone kind of wants to be a, so for him to do that to then go to Penn State, like it just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it feels like Indiana is all aboard the SIG train. Yeah. Okay, President A.D. Cuban's biggest NIL booster. And I think the Signettys are as well. We talk about him talking about his house, but every time we talk to him and his family,

they love that area. Yeah. But once again, that is happening in college football. That's true. Yeah. He is 64. Yeah, yeah. So that part... Matt Rule makes sense.

It's a tough for the move at that age. I don't know. I mean, Matt Rule is a Penn State guy. He's already commented how much he loves Penn State. I understand he loves Nebraska, but if they, if Penn State wants to pursue him hard and give him what he deserves, I can't, I wouldn't be shocked. Matt Rule and Pat Kraft back at Temple did their thing there, game day ended up being there. You know, that is...

Oh, they've been together before? Yeah. Has Matt Rule been asked about the Penn State job yet? Today. Yeah. He talks about how much he respects he's from there and how much he loves it. He said he loves Nebraska. But he loves Nebraska.

Of course. Of course he does. You can love both. His name immediately mentioned, though, Matt Ruhl up there, especially with the success that he's had. And if he was able to get the resources, not that Nebraska doesn't have him, but if he was able to go back home and tell the story of Penn State like he could, because literally growing up there, they think that'd be quite a weapon in recruiting.

What year is, Rialdon? He's got another year of eligibility, so he could go with. Okay. And Dana Holgerson, he's an offense coordinator. Not that we want to just strip Nebraska. Okay, we do not. We're not saying that. It sounds like it could have to be out.

But this is potential outcome, and we don't like this, okay? We don't like that we're saying this. But Dana Holkerson, offense coordinator for Nebraska, has said he's okay not being a head coach. Like he enjoys not being a head coach. And Penn State can pay coaches, you know. They can really pay coaches. They have. They've shown it before.

Hey, you don't want to be a head coach? You just want to be a coordinator? Sweet. How about we pay you like mid-level head coach money to be offense coordinator instead? It's like that's the weapon that you have. wherever you have the conglomerate behind you, which is why they're expecting to win, AJ. That's exactly why they're expecting to win.

Yeah, they are. Like, when do you hire a coach? If you're hiring another college coach, it's going to be after they make a playoff run. Is that how we're going to wait that long for Penn State? It's going to get a little messy. We checked it last week. It's not bad.

Yeah, they got to run. I know, but I'm saying does rule maybe? Nah, I won't say. Bair games? Come on. I won't say. Is it a rule definitely. he's definitely on the list, I assume, for the Penn State people saying.

Yeah. For sure. We have no, this is me on record saying I have no information, okay? I was very lucky to catch up with Dr. Pat Kraft, the Athletic Director. I know him, okay, neck roll wearer from Indiana. Got a chance to chat with him whenever we were up there in Happy Valley. Every year we've gone up there. Like, I have massive respect for him.

In this particular world, no information. Cannot have any information because I got this thing in front of me, let alone the thing on Saturday. Yeah. That one on Saturday. you imagine. Cannot, yeah, cannot have any info. Cannot give this brain any info.

Because at some point, it's just going to dance out somehow. Well, actually, they're talking to, yeah, Matt rules going to Penn State. Well, really, what's Nebraska thinking about it? And Reese gives me a fool. Well, Nebraska obviously has said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I say, well, yeah, of course. We don't know that.

That's not a piece of information we all know. Okay, God, yeah. So I'm out of the loop on that whole thing. But you're right, when will they hire? And Terry Smith could go on a run right now. Terry Smith could go on. He's a dog. He's a dog.

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The Toxitate was here at Boston Connor and Attice. She made one half of the Hammer. Don is here, nine-year NFL vet, host of NFL matchups, and everything DB, good, D, Bad D, D. D. D. D. B., D. D. Bush. AJ, I saw you celebrate Halloween. I thought that was a very creative costume. He really explored the space, I'd say, and history.

Yeah, I did. It was, you know, like haunted. haunted celebrities slash athletes type thing that could be dead or alive so I was JFK, my wife was his wife obviously Jackie O. It worked out well. It was a haunted house obviously and JFK came back from the grave after Daiz

was his costume. I appreciate you really trying to own it and being a method actor too from the photos I saw you won all in. We liked the way you guys treat Halloween. I also like the way you're seeing the board, AJ. Now we have two games tonight. Okay, we have two games tonight. I'm five and eight.

You're seven and six. This is multiple weeks in a row where you've had to lead coming in this Monday night football. Now, there's two games so I can technically catch up to you. And will I do that? We shall see. DeButch, your thoughts on the 7-15er, Bill is at Falcons. Bill is favored by three and a half. Dan Orlovsky on a call.

Dan Rolovsky says, I actually don't like this matchup for the Buffalo Bill. He said he likes this for the Atlanta Falcons. Do you see it the same way as Dano? What are your thoughts on this game and the three-and-a-half-point spread? That surprised me, hearing that from Dano, knowing how highly he thinks of this team. He just said Joe Brady should probably be the next head coach for the Tennessee Titans.

So it definitely surprised me. I do love the young talent on the Falcon side of it, but I'm going to take the bills. I think after that loss on prime time against the Patriots, they're going to come back with firing their eyes. So I'll take the bills covering three and a half. You will reserve the right to be able to change your pick right after tone gives us some information here.

What are the percentages on who, and is there any different lines we can get? Yeah, 73% are on the bills tonight, which is not a shocker. Three and a half is the lowest you can get if you want the Buffalo Beals. Four and a half is the highest you can get if you want the Atlanta. It's almost like I figured that was the kid. That's 70-some percent there on the Buffalo Beals. Does that change anything for you?

Nope, I'm sticking with it. The public has stunk. We see the stats. We see it. Yep, I'm Stigwood. AJ? Dary's brother. Go ahead.

No, so D-But, I appreciate D-But sticking with it, even though we, I guess the public should not change how we think the game is going to go, but I think you hit it on the head. These Buffalo Bios coming off a loss, as Mike McCarthy said, they got a Caste of Redass, I think, and they're going to come out there fighting, they're going to be ready to roll. Josh Allen's not going to let them lose again, so I'm taking Buffalo. Okay, so I'm taking Atlanta just strictly because I have to to catch up with you against the spread weekend. Good pick. Tone, yeah. Can you tell those stats again? I get it at what?

I get a plus four. Yes, four and a half, actually. I get plus four and a half. And then 73% of the money is on the team that I'm not on. So I'm with 27%. Yes. And the record throughout the year with percentage over 60% on something. What is the record?

15 and 35. Fucking jokes on you. And you, AJ. Yeah, bills are coming off a loss. Maybe. Did the Falcon, who did they play last week? Did they lose last week? Or did they stay at home get really healthy?

and watch the bills tape for two straight weeks because they were on the bye. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Oh. Yeah, that's what they were doing. Studying. Yeah. They were in cold tub and I saw it,

which are you supposed to do before workout or after workout, AJ? Sana, I don't know. What is it? I don't know. There's new science. People talking cold tub, don't do it after work. Cold tub. Yeah, you're not going to gain like the muscle that you need.

I guess if you lift really heavy and then get in the cold tub. I've read that. Is that real? Yeah. That's going to take away because the blood is bringing, you know, what you're looking for, the recovery of the muscle. So you're basically getting in an ice tub saying, nope, actually everything you just did, not worth it, don't do it. Sends blood away from the inflammation. You're looking to be getting inflating.

You're looking to be getting inflate. You're looking to tear a little bit. You're looking to grow a little bit. And the cold tub says, I got you. I'll make you feel better. They're saying don't do it after lifting. But what about in the morning? Am I supposed to do it? In contrast.

I'm a fan of contract. Do it in the morning. Do it before your lift. What about that? Yeah, because he's just wake up? Is it just a wake-up? When I know I'm going to be, I'm going to be the man who wakes up in some water. Is that what it's going to happen?

Is that what that is? You know what's the rock? You do what makes you feel better. So that's what I've been doing. It's all about. What's Wahlberg do? What's Wahlberg do? Well, he's.

I know it starts at 315. Like, does he going cold? He's not doing a cold tub after. I know he does cold tub all the time. At the turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's golf card, actually. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's a cold tub. Yep. The, the. the pedal was actually in the tub

so he's able to drive it and it's got the little almost balloon knotty top so he can slip in and it is a cold tub and then he can bounce out and then he's back to golfing. Those people that can take care

of ten things at once are really impressive. When Mark Wahlberg released that schedule, I think everybody was mind-blown but I don't think I've heard him back off it really, right? No. I think he's just like... I think he's got more. I think he's at it.

He's like, yeah, what do you get? You basic humans, I can't do what I can do. I can play nine holes in 47 minutes. Okay? Now there might be some rule changes, but we're still out there golfing. We're still doing our thing. I'm morning workout, sauna, and then I'm dunking my head in a cold tub.

I just dunked my head. Just head. Ashton Hall. Is that what he? Oh, no. Is that his name? Yeah. But he's doing that.

Yeah. Crack, no. Thurking a bottle. Yeah. That's not a bad, boy. I might start doing it. Yeah, it's fresh water. I might get the bottle.

I might get the bottle. the bowl and use the cold tub now you're talking oh and then okay oh ashton hall i'm not racing anybody though yeah put my ass on slow mo i'm cool though i think i could get you a pretty good little knee drive arm swing yeah you can race dj call it's quick i think cal it's got those little legs moving sometimes you know first 10 is legit i know yeah he's not scared to move too which i respect you know because if i get to that stage of like I think I'm going to be so worried about my joints just because of what I know. You probably won't even see me attempting some of the stuff that he's doing.

So I got massive respect for what his body's able to accomplish. We saw a Power Ranger, a Colts Power Ranger, this weekend at the Indianapolis Colts game. This guy was awesome. I mean, he was right. There's no way his joints are happy at all about what he's doing. But he is a round ball of passion for that Indianapolis Colts team. Half-time show? Actually, the halftime show was, it was like an open, a suitcase thing, briefcase.

and I just said you want a thousand bucks in a car, a thousand bucks in a car, a thousand bucks in a car, and then a green card and not an actual green card, because that would be a big deal. I was going to say, yeah, holy shit. It's like a green Caesar's card. Okay. And then like a white Caesar's card, and then a digital chuck-a-luck-up started spinning. It was a good halftime show.

No, now with a fat Power Ranger. Is that what you said? Whoa, whoa, whoa. The Fat Power Ranger? Oh, oh, in the crowd, okay. But to be clear, they tossed Fat Power Ranger into halftime show, I think much more

captivating. Probably. I would say. Blue hit the... This is cool. This guy needs to be around more. I'm assuming it's a guy. I apologize. Power Ranger, I guess. Is that his wife? You think it's his wife with him? Looking at him so lovingly? Down there, right to his left? Yeah, the Bond. He was riding

Han Solo. He was there about an hour and 10 minutes before the game. He wasn't saying next to people he knew. You found him on social. media were the pronouns I'm him I believe yeah I'm not sure if it was I'm him or if he went by himmy

oh yeah it could have been all time yeah yeah he's not fatty he looks more right what I kind of cropped out is that his penis is tucked into his boots I love that we did see that yeah because we thought maybe he was very vascular

leg you never know I guess but if he was out at halftime show I think we're talking a little bit more magic, a little bit more spectacle. You know, it was some good shows yesterday. There was, we blew off the after a touchdown, wind, blows that shit on field. Oh, no.

On field. So now there's a full panic to grab the sparklers and shit off the thing while the kickoffs lined up out there was good. Did they do the red don thing again, the umbrellas? What do you mean? The fucking parachutes, I'm sorry? Yeah, all blue to one place. Yep, come on. That's the wind.

The draft. Red Dawn. people really hated those shadows it's so bad already yeah I didn't look that on TV product is her right had no idea I think it doesn't feel I'm not getting into it it looks awesome when you're in there yeah it looks cool when you're looking the exact view that we had yeah if you're not sitting where we are it's up yeah I'm still level yeah a window yeah top beautiful sunny there's two cranes in downtown Indianapolis good things are happening see those through the window that's about it although some clouds so like for us it was perfect

everybody else said they didn't like it sure so looks bad on tv it does for sure it doesn't feel as big i don't think yeah yeah you're right ain't that right it doesn't feel as big i think it feels morningy like which is like what like 9 a m jv games in high school that's where and i'm not saying it feels like that but it's just weird the angle of the sun at that time coming through how it does on the field it does look weird well and also one side's closed and then one side is wide open so you literally have a natural cutoff of a shadow and then the shadows are kind of weirdly parsed around. There's like little different parcels of shadow,

and that's because it's a window and all these other things that are going on. It's a beautiful stadium, like, when you're there. It is absolutely glorious. But if it's a perfect day in Indianapolis, in October, and that sun's shining, it might be a little optically confusing for the other team.

And maybe that's why we won't. Maybe. Do a flyover again? What's that? Did we get a flyover? No flyover. Have we seen the... I don't know why it wasn't a flyover. The Atlanta Stadium.

Have we seen a video that I don't think I've ever seen that one opened up. I saw it just yesterday, I think, that I'm talking about opening it. And it just looks like a, it, uh, yeah, balloon not. It just looks like a, you know, because it's like a cyborg type looking situation. Transformers. Have they played with it open before? Obviously they have, but I don't remember. I don't know.

I've seen the video of it opening up. I think this was a part of it, but I don't know why they haven't. used it open yeah here it is oh what i look sick yeah but can you do the opening up there it is so it's like a sick so much money just in that part of that stadium yeah the science behind it jeez it's it's a it's a really cool thing i wonder why they don't open it more often i wonder if the i don't know i honestly don't know why they don't open it i was going to immediately make like ten excuses well like well maybe flooding and they don't have water it's like well they should they spend like five billion on this thing maybe the temperature isn't good it's like well it should

they spent like $6,000, $5 billion on this thing. It's like, that thing is a marvel. It is an engineering marvel. It is beautiful, dude. I think that's the, yeah, I'll say it. That's the nicest stadium, I think, we've been in. L.A., interesting. It rained inside.

Yeah, so fies. Jerry World's still great. Allegiance for me. Jerry World is awesome. Jerry World is awesome. Allegiance cool. Yeah. I mean, that's, that was pretty.

pretty fucking nice. I'd like to be there for a football game as opposed to being there for mania. I'm pumped to see what the Buffalo Beale Stadium is. All these new stadiums that are coming in, it's like, it's crazy the difference between what old stadiums were and what news are. There's like malls in these fucking places, eh?

The old school places are awesome. Like, they're awesome for football, but they don't have the infrastructure underneath the stadium that, like these new stadiums, they have a whole city underneath the stadium pretty much. In places you can go and all this stuff. Some of these stadiums have nothing.

Like, there's not even hallways to go through to get to anything. So it is kind of, it's very, very different depending on when your stadium was built. That's quite an advancement that we don't really talk about. Yeah. Of technology is the stadiums because it is something to do when you go to the stadiums, as opposed to just you're going there to get in your seat from tailgating. It's like they want you walking around that stadium. They want you in that, like it's a casino.

They want you to experience it. There's little like 3D portions of the things you can go into. Oh, here's a team shop. Oh, here's a full shop. here's a local shop here's a restaurant here's another restaurant here's it's like everything is just set up like a mall it's really set up like mall yeah they use it for so many other things you talked about mania like all the other shit that you can do like the huge concerts and shit so all like we've been in the guts of some of these stadiums so yeah i think it's the nicest one it's certainly up there yeah i think it is just in my head i've tried to think of very loud too that ohio state game on new year's eve we're at that was the loudest stadium i think i've ever been Agreed. It was a there was a hum to your ears after that, like a ringing after you left that.

National championship was super loud. How lucky have we been to be able to be in these places? Where are you judging us from? Standing on the fucking right on the field. Like the Rose Bowl obviously doesn't compare it to. We're not comparing Rose Bowl to Mercedes-Benz Stadium. It's impossible to judge those two. What we're saying is amongst the new stadiums, we think the Mercedes won, seemingly from our experiences.

the back in and out too easy yeah i'll vote a legion you've got allegiance over mercedes i vote yeah okay it's close but i'll go just for i guess they got what they got good setups in their sweet levels yeah yeah the on the on field's jerry world man just seeing like when you see allegiance and you just like it looks like it's from 240 yeah you're right just to it is a spaceship yeah yeah yeah yeah and i'm just walking through their sweet section that goes right to the field that restaurant we saw like jerry's jerry and his family like pulling up like the whole yeah yeah that was like jerry world's like 15 16 years old too isn't it by now they take care of that shit they they take care of their stuff down there surrounding area is cool there

too yeah all right so buffalo bills Cleveland also right Cleveland is uh they just got to prove for one allegedly how they're fighting back now the airport had to clear it because that's always the issue with like indoor practice facilities is like is there a local airport airport. You can't build the indoor practice facility this high. Now they're thinking about building a stadium near an airport. I mean, that's going to be a whole thing. This is an entire debate. Cleveland people necessarily aren't necessarily thrilled about the changing of a stadium to begin with. So I guess there's a little push and shove coming. Whatever the case, can't wait to see Buffalo, can't wait to see Chicago, can't wait to see Cleveland. Tennessee.

Tennessee is going to be awesome. I mean, it is. These new stadiums are awesome. Commanders getting a new stadium are incredible. And for tonight, I'm on Atlanta. you guys are on the bills I would like to tell you guys bad news boys jeezy half time yeah yeah this is a big deal

you know this is a big deal I think he just did a Vegas announced a Vegas show for TM 101 I'm not 100% sure he just got done with basically a black tie cocktail event

traveling of you know his bangers from back in the day whenever. 2005 is when I graduated high school. So that was the exact year when G-Z-Z was about to go absolutely crazy. I mean, the T-R-A-P-S-T-R got us through

so many workouts. G-Z got me to the NFL, I would say. Same. I would say G-Z got me to the NFL and through life, I think, for our exact generation. So I don't know how many people in our generation are going to be there at halftime, but the entire city of Atlanta,

I assume, is going to go crazy. That's going to be a tough place to play in the second half for Josh Allen, I think. Can I change a little put? Yes, you can. I'm going to Falcons. Wow.

He reserved the right. We said it earlier. He reserved the right to change the Falcons, okay, plus three and a half. AJ, you're the only one riding with the bills. Let's go to the second game of the evening. The Chicago Bears take on the Washington commanders. Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, special stuff happening in Washington since Jaden got there and have Chicago and Caleb figured out what their special sauce is going to be going forward.

He's looked much better than he has in the past couple of weeks. couple weeks. Jaden and Washington commanders feel like a much more veteran team as opposed to a team just trying to figure it out. They're favored by

five and a half at home. Dee Butch, who do you like? How do you like it? That's a lot of points. Five and a half. Chicago's coming off a by week as well, right?

Yes. Game win streak. Back to what Connor said. Is Waleigh performing at halftime? That's a good question. I think O Goody is. Who is that?

Wally. Oh, wait. Wallet did that song? Wallet did not too. He produced it. Oh, Goody. I don't think Wally had any producing creds on how much. You just wrote it?

I don't, that would be a producer credit, I think. I don't think he's part of the publishing or the master. Partinent information. I don't think he's part of any of that. What would ever say? Left hand, who are we the commanders? That was a little bit of a heater there for a bit. They needed it at that time.

They did. They needed it and they showed up for sure. Do you like the commanders, minus five and a half? Battle of the former one and two picks. I'm going to go with Caleb Williams covering at the Washington commander. I think commanders win, but I got the Bears. Chicago plus five and a half. Anything else we need to know about this line tone?

51% is on the Bears, so it doesn't qualify for any of the most bet on games or anything like that. This is also the game that sent the Bears into a downward spiral last year and sent the commanders to the playoffs on a Hail Mary. List of injuries for the commanders here. You got Noel Brian groin knee, he's hot. That's not good. Terry McLaurin, quad, he's hot. Sam Cawasamy, knee, he's doleful. Chris Rodriguez Jr. and Debo, questionable.

John Bates, Jaden Daniels, full participants. Okay. So that's what information we have for the commanders. AJ, are you going to ride with the commies, or are you going with Darius Butler and the Chicago Bears plus five and a half? I do not love seeing some of those great players on the injury list, not playing tonight for the commanders, but does not sway me. I will take Jane Daniels

and the commanders minus five and a half. Okay, I'm actually... Okay. I feel good about taking the Bears plus five and a half and taking the Falcons plus three and a half. I'm sorry, plus four and a half. Okay, I was going to be forced into some picks

tonight, and I'm okay with both of them because I think we got two very good games tonight. And this is week six of the NFL season wrapping up. Good luck to everybody on the call. We can't wait to spend the evening with you. Let's go to some overreact. from the weekend that was put out a bird call saying hey good morning it's another glorious overreaction Monday cannot wait to hear what you have to say we can't wait to showcase some of your thoughts we can't wait to hear how fans around football feel about their teams if you could send

in all you got to use is the hashtag I don't want to overreact but I believe it became a top trend there were some things that are very serious and maybe very positive trending I don't want to say anything but it feels like is there peace in the middle league I know that seemed to be trending right there with us. Peace in the Middle East. That feels good. Been hearing about that for a long time. Peace in the Middle East.

Peace in the Middle East. That was trending. The reason why I found out is because hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But? Passed Middle East. I'm like, what's the Middle East trending for? Let's go ahead and find out. Holy hell.

Okay, it seems like a good news. It's also good news whenever we get a chance to hear how football fans are feeling around the globe. Let's go to the first one. A.J. Ty picked his favorites. This one's from Boston Connor. This guy, he's a rascal. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But we're back, bitch.

Get used to seeing these two everywhere. A new dynasty is upon us. Bills need to win tonight. I worry Buffalo won't be able to handle New England being first in division after week six. Okay, so you're giving a warning to the bills, not just a warning to the entire league, but obviously the bills, you need to wake up. There's some magic brewing yet again up there in New England. Yeah, not even a warning, just more so like I am generally worried, because the bills are up there with one of the most fickle and soft fan bases when it comes to people on the internet. And so if this happens, then they'll do a whole song and dance about how the Patriots aren't actually good. And the Bills, you know, it was a fluke that they lost in Buffalo. But that's just kind of part of the game that you deal with when it comes to the bills.

It's just undeniable at this point. I'm very excited about it. Vrable is the guy, especially with Brian Callahan getting fired, Tennessee. You fucking fools. You really fucked that one up if you just hung on to Vrable. But you didn't. And thank God for dry mail. Robert Kraft draft and Drake May because the partnership together will equal

Super Bowl and it's very exciting and all of a sudden the paths you know we got a variable revenge game against the Titans then we have the Browns we're kind of looking at a six and two New England Patriots if they can take care of business like they did Sunday hey we're happy for all you masts we watch you go through it for a couple years it was like a divorce was happening in real time you had to pick between died or dad and bellichick and tom Brady we know how that and not well and we will see how it is 10 years from now, depending upon how everything works out. Certainly wild and loud,

but they're all the way back. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Billy Tubes. Bailey McComis. Boys, hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But... Colts are the best team in the NFL. Reserve the location for Indiana Jones statue right next to the sheriff.

Clear the way for Tyler Warren, Josh Downs, and J.T.'s ring of honor spots. Tune up the floats and pave the streets. Parades coming! Says Bailey McComis. I'll tell you what, Bill, I didn't even think about us having to pave these roads so we could have a good parade. Let's get on that. Yeah.

Okay, we need to make sure that these floats can get through town without moats hitting them every other step. But what I will say is, Indianapolis does feel good. And if you look at the past, the legends that brought football to become the most important thing in this city. After, you know, a long time of racing and basketball being Indianapolis's kind of gem and baby, Peyton Manning was drafted here and all of a sudden a football town became football. a lot. And these football people are seeing a lot of things that are reminiscent with great football here for the

Colts. You got to have a super smart quarterback. We got them. Got to have a dog as a wide receiver. We got them. You got to have defense that can win in all different types of ways and hopefully stay healthy during warmups going forward.

We got them. AJ, it's a beautiful time to be in Indiana. Obviously, you got the Hoosier football team doing what they're doing, number three team in the country. You got the Indianapolis Colts number one team in the league. Okay, by all accounts can say that. Tyler Warren might be the best football player in the world. And then it just came out.

Purdue is the number one team in the country for men's college basketball. So the state of Indiana is dominating sports. Welcome to the party. We're great to be here. But, AJ, you've been saying this for a while. You believe in this Colts team. I do. I believe in Danny Jones.

I believe in their offensive line as well. I definitely do it. And also, how about that defense? You bring in Jermaine Prada, bro? I believe he had double-digit tackles already. Yesterday he just joined the team, what, how long ago? So I feel like they're only getting better. They're starting to hit their stride now.

I didn't even see that. I should have paid attention. I'm sure I heard his name a couple times. He didn't even react. I mean, this coach team, no, we couldn't get a stop there for a while. Hey, look. That's going to happen. Going to have those.

Hards are a tough team. We're patching them up on the back end. All the guys that we thought would play big roles in the second. Kenny Moore has been out. Hopefully he's back soon. Mooney Ward got knocked out pre-game lost another corner so Blackman I'm sorry stepping up getting another pick it's been patchwork back there on the secondary

but Lou's still finding a way to get wins so shout out to that defense and you guys mention it from the top down been the best thing it takes big three starts there with the ownership level Chris Ballard he's been saying he like his guys made some great signs in the offseason quarterback JT playing great Oline I mean we got best team the fucking league Best team in the league.

Enrico got the pun a couple of times. Hit some bombs. Michael Badgeley, kicker back in town. He was here a couple years ago. Making kicks. It's a special time.

We enjoy it. And I think they'll take all these different calluses that they're getting at this stage. They're still a young team together. They can only grow from here, we all hope.

Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Gary Williams. Hashtack, I don't want to overreact. But Detroit has lost all their toughness and grit by being whiny babies about getting blown out by the Chiefs.

Last week, the Chiefs had 13 penalties. And the reps have turned on the chiefs. Now we have zero and it's rigged for the chiefs again. Foxy, you were already laying down the seed to make this an excuse. And then all of a sudden, lo and behold, all anybody's saying is Patrick Mahomes is smooching with the refs. And they're saying it's not AI. It is AI. He's not smooching with any refs. You guys are just complaining because you're losing. That's what the other side's saying. Listen, a lot of people were saying, Foxy, what you said on Friday was completely right. The ref screwed us. It wasn't a great officiated game. I'm not going to say that, though. I just think

the Chiefs are back. They looked great. Mahomes is great. And we're a little banged up in the secondary. We've got to get healthy. We'll be a-okay. I'm not worried about anything. And it was nice, actually, because we lost. I kind of enjoyed smacking Juju in the mind. Okay. That's pretty good. AJ, let's talk about that. Obviously, the NFL is not going to be thrilled about this. Branch smacks them right in the mouth after blowing past Patrick Mahomes. Juju clearly thinks they're about to dapp up even though they had a pretty spirited game, I think is how people would describe it. He ends up literally open hands smacking him in the jaw and then ragdolling him with his helmet onto the ground, which a melee ensues and there's camera people around. I mean, full chaos at the end of this one last night between two of the NFL's greatest games or greatest teams.

What do you think about Branch and the entire situation that is? Yeah, I mean, obviously Branch had some frustration that kind of boiled over in this moment. moment. This is, this is a wild, seen his branch against everybody for a little while, and he held his own and did very, very well. I would assume, listen to the Shifty too, like, are they going to suspend them again? Is he going to miss next game? Yeah, it sounds like it.

It sounds like it. Side note, Brian Branch is on the fine list every single week. Since he got drafted, he probably has the most fines in the NFL. That's just a complete guess, but he's on that list every week, so I assume there'll be some punishment here, which isn't good, because already out are two corners.

Brian Branch is no stranger to looking at his check and just seeing minus signs next to it. Oh, yeah. Where's this going? Where'd Jerry's money go? Where'd Gannon's money go? Where's it go? I'm sure of great causes. Some are good.

Definitely raises money, right? Of course. Probably a piece in the Middle East. Is that how it worked? I know people have been trying to pitch for that for a long time. Thank you, NFL. Hey, shout out. Is that one of the causes?

I think so. The pink cleats are sick to see. They are. see when it's like oh you were around or old enough for whenever this was an era and that it really took over now we're raising money obviously for everything which we love being a part of good things not bad things in society that pink run though had a real one it sticks out oh yeah i mean the pink yeah it's bright on that note um Josh Heinz allen yes he had a moment with his son where his son could be uh I guess like a honorary captain for the jags before the game

I believe he was eight years old, had a battle with cancer, overcame it in full remission now. So that was an awesome moment. Hell yeah. Just think about how it's tough you got to be at that age to overcome that. And, you know, you draw so much inspiration from these kids. We get a chance and opportunity to meet the people that create these stories and are going through very hard times for the professions that we had,

both football, and then now doing this, we get, you know, make a wish, opportunities, phone calls, hey, will you come meet these people? And it's like the amount of mental toughness that it takes from, very young individuals, eight years old, already beat, it's like, hurts, sucks. All your friends are doing cool things. And you just got to sit in here and literally sit in the pocket in battle. And my message is always like, hey, what you've been through is going to, you're going to be able to use for the rest of your life.

Like, you are going to have, this sucks. This is absolutely unfair that you've had to go through this. I don't think it's cool at all. I don't think you've, like, this is obviously sucks. But for the rest of your life, you're going to have something that you're going to be able to lean on like, hey, I'm tough. offer than everybody else. And that's a cool thing to see us. I thought Jags had to win. Honestly, in that moment, Seahawks, go football team. Go football team. But AJ, I genuinely feel

that way. Like, so badass to have to go through that. So true. I see it all the time with different kids. Like, my kids, I got second, fourth grade kids where they're trying to do things for kids. Like, there's kids that have had cancer and gone through all kinds of situations in their classroom that do stuff to help them. I'm like, man, can you imagine, like, being that young, not only like to how your parents deal with it, but kids are resilient man like kids can handle it they can fight through and you're right eventually it will be better for everything the rest of your life hopefully you think if i can do this like i can do anything but man in the moment that's just brutal for everybody involved yeah but

you get those beautiful moments that inspire everybody just like that coin toss it was hard not to get like emotional with that especially now with child you know let's go the next overreaction this is from bones at bones pog hashtag i don't want to overreact but redo all of your top fives Throw away all your lists because this man is one of one. Death, taxes, and JSN open over the middle. Seven fucking sacks by the defense on a pretty boy in a monster game by Sam Donald. Look out, NFC West. Your owner has returned.

I saw a lot of football night in America, a lot of the West winning. West, West, West, West, how good the West is, how good the West is. Seattle Seahawks, very good. Not a lot of conversation because they're in Seattle, AJ. And that's not fair. We're not saying that's fair. We're just saying that's a reality. They've had monster wins on the road thus far.

And Sam Darnold, this guy's unbelievable. A lot of people wondering how the hell did Minnesota let him out of there? How did Sam Darnock, like, look at these pockets that Sam Donald throws from. You give Sam Darnold any amount of time to throw, and the guy is going to five people open. Like, I'm very, very impressed by what they're doing, how their defense is playing as well. But we say it's like the West Coast bias that we don't hear as much. They don't talk to it. What about the West Coast?

Do they talk about them? Like, are they, are they, they speak about it more than we do? That's a good question. And what shows, I guess, would we look to over there to Chichick? I guess NFL Network's over there, right? NFL Network's hopefully giving them a lot of love because they're special. And we talk about Cooper Cup. You said, not just, we can't just look at the stats.

And there was an incredible touchdown from Sam Donald to Cooper Cup. I mean, this is just, I bucket Cooper Cup football there as well. Saw that with Stafford a lot. He's only going to get picked up. But he was a great signing for leadership and also loves the time. there. Yeah, absolutely. Everything he does not only on the field, but what he does off the field, but not only in the past game, the run

game, like him getting in there, he did a lot of dirty work in that Rams offense as well, but he'll get in there and block his ass off. JSN, I think he's definitely in that top five conversation, along with the other NFC West, superstar Pooka Nicole, who's banged up right now, but it seems like they're

quarterbacks, too. I love how Sam Darno and Matt Stafford, like, they're like, look, I'm throwing to the dog. Every time he's throwing the ball deep down field, I feel like it's going to be leveling on the other side. And same with Stafford, whether it's 17 with Adams or Pooka. I just love what they're doing. And West is playing good ball

all of a sudden. Do we got to start? Maybe we have a little West Coast Seg. Well, I think it's even extra right now, too, because everyone's saying, like, you know, you got the Mariners maybe going to win the World Series this year. We got the Seahawks who are unbelievable, and nobody fucking talks about either one of them because we're in Seattle. We're kind of part

of the problem, I guess, Connor, are we? I just think it's just because the 49ers are a national brand and the Rams. I have won a Super Bowl in the last five years, but when you do think about the team now. The Rams, you know, Puka, you just mentioned him. Niners, Bosa and Warner out for the season. Now it's officially like, oh, their defense is fucked because Fred Warner is the best middle linebacker in the entire league.

And now he's done for the season. So like what Bosa, you know, they lost with him, Fred Warner can make up for. Now without Fred Warner, it's like that fucking blows. The purdy stuff, the kittles stuff, of course. But like, when you just talk about heart and souls of teams, Fred Warner being hurt is terrible quad box okay top corner see fred warner down see everybody around see cart come out and just immediately go this niner's team's cursed this niner's team is absolutely curse fred we love t's and peas godspeed absolutely sucks at that's happening but this niner's team

it's like what are they got to do honestly what what are they is there some voodoo shit they like can they do something is there is there some sort of what what do they do up there in Detroit, they put whiskey in a bathtub. Yeah, that was the Bobby Lane curse. So they put whiskey in a bathtub, and then it actually worked, and now we're winning playoff games. Oh, yeah. Who takes a bad? They need to find theirs.

What curse do they have? They just need to smoke a bunch of weed. I think that's already a cop. No, not doing that? No, they're not already doing that? They got to get in the stadium and find a way maybe just put like a big tarp over the top and just hotbox the stadium. Get everybody super fucking high. Maybe none of these guys

over to her again. Because they're loose. I like that. Maybe they They turn it into an ayahuasca tent That's not a bad idea They go into a tent Right? You know what they do, AJ?

I think the sweat-lodge thing They go in like sober And you go and just sweat until you die And then you get out right before death Oh, that's the TP they want it It's like the blue tent and seven They're not doing any awaska on there They're not doing any ayah

I assume there's I assume there's both thoughts Some people do Some people will go in there fully I guess nothing I don't know And to the layman You don't know what we're talking about

we're talking about just a higher level of medicinal plant medicine. Yeah, spiritual journey. And we're obviously cultured so we understand how this goes. There's a rainforest you fly into right into it. First night they say, sweet, you comfortable with your life? No, that's why you're here. Get into this thing. From my understanding, it's 2,000 degrees.

Correct. And you're pumping steam in there in the rainforest. And then that's the beginning of the journey of awakening, right? AJ? I guess, yeah. Maybe they do need to do that in San Francisco. Or Sage? Isn't the Sage?

Sage should work. Either that or it's just one of those things where it's just like, hey, it's just never going to work for you guys anymore. What? You hate to say. That's tough to handle. It's week six. Yeah, I know, but this is every year. It's like, you know, it's like, hey, just wait, you know, Purdy's going to get hurt or McCaffrey's going to get hurt or Ayuk's going to get hurt or Bosa's going to get hurt or Warner's going to get hurt or any of these guys who you're paying, kiddle, who you're paying a bunch of money.

money to. It's year and you're out. And it's not just one of them. It's a lot of times it's multiple guys. Yeah, and I also you know, I don't want to go there but I don't know if the team's curse. I think it might be Shanahan. Because Shanahan if you were to look at since 283 and maybe

it's happened because it came up on Rushmore but old cool Kyle Shanahan wanted to score 50 points on the New England Patriots. So he threw the ball up 28 to 3 like a fucking prick. So I don't know if it's the football. ball God's like, you thought you were better

than us. In the biggest game, you fucked it. We gave it to you. We gave you the game. Tom Brady threw a pick six in a Super Bowl, and you wanted to be, oh, cool, Kyle Shanahan. And unfortunately, now his team gets fucking ravaged by injuries every year, and

we don't like that. How do you get rid of that curse? Can you get rid of that curse? I don't know if you can't, but I do know that you definitely need to know the OT rules in the Super Bowl in order to reverse it. Oh yeah, and they fucking forgot that too against the Chiefs. to Harvard, he forgot. That was a lot.

That was awesome. All right, let's get to the next overreact. That might be an overreaction, but maybe not. We don't know. This is from Jamie Chadwell's stand account. Jamie Chadwell, obviously, football coach at Liberty. At sad sports fan 69. Hashtack, I don't want to overreact, but the Carolina Panthers are so back.

Three and three feels like 17 and O. And I'm on top of the world. Buckle up, Jets, because the Cowboys weren't buckled up, Dibbutch. They weren't. And Rico Dado is his. revenge game back to back 225 yards total yards on the ground and

in the air for him and he talked I love there's nothing I love more than when a player talks shit before game and then goes into somebody stadium and backs it up so this back to back weeks now for him over 225 yards 239 total yards which is a Carolina Panther offensive record

and if you think about the players that have been in that program Steve Smith the Angelo Williams Stu Christian McCaffrey so for him to have that record pretty phenomenal. Great spin there too. I mean, the spin on that touchdown celebration right there of the ball was phenomenal. I think he's first got to be over 200 yards.

There was one undrafted or yada, yada, yada. There's a bunch of rules, a bunch of records that RICO. That's a great spin. Can you go back a little bit more? I think they'll have a good shot. It was clean. Yeah, it was a clean. I mean, there's some bad ones out there. Here we go. Oh. Yeah, I mean, that thing's still going.

He's digging it. He's still going. Yeah, I mean, that's a good spin. because that turf's trying to eat it. Turf's trying to hold you back. That turf's trying to hold you back whenever you're spinning the ball and he got that thing. Rico's got a lot of confidence. And I love watching this Panthers team.

A lot of people talking shit on the Panthers, you know? Of course. A lot of people picking against the Panthers. Panthers said, hold the phone. We got a football team. Can Alice's biggest win is what they called that as Carolina. Panthers? He looked obviously excited.

Can they continue to roll? We shall see. Congrats to the Queen City. Liberty Football Coach. I didn't expect that there. Guy hard fan. That's in Virginia, Liberty, right? So is that just Carolina's in Virginia, just kind of all pooled for the Panthers?

I believe, and I could be wrong. Jamie Chadwell came from coastal maybe or something around there. I could be wrong. Virginia isn't in between state, though, just like Connecticut, where half will go to Washington and the other half I know are, you know, Panthers and mixed back. Okay, so we got that, and then there's some South Carolina that goes Atlanta, Georgia, and then, or go north of the Carolina Panthers. He wasn't Coast of Carolina.

There you have it. So that's why Jamie Chad Bulls be loved by the Canterliner Panthers fans. Exactly. This guy can get a win. This team can't. Is Tepper back in his bag, bro? AJ? It kind of feels like it, right?

I mean, they're three and three. The fans says he feels like they're 17 and 0. There's something about that. Like, hey, when you're not used to winning year in and year out, like winning is really fun. It really is until that standard is like, hey, we should be competing for Super Bowls. There was 200 people at that last game. What was it?

$5? tickets or two dollar tickets or something like that i mean they were in a bad bad spot then he offered up the entire stadium for the hurricane relief uh concert with luke holmes and caleb and church i think and everybody that was doing that and then all of a sudden maybe vibes started changing so you can break a curse you can go from most hated owner in all of sports to maybe turning some things around and i think carolina's proving that right now let's go to the next overreaction donald gem at loco gore 64 Loco, Gore. This guy's crazy, bro.

Hashtack, I don't want to overreact, but... The New York Jets aren't winning a game this year. Negative 10 net passing yards and nine sacks on Justin Fields. Congrats. You've single-handedly set back the NFL plans in Europe by about 10 years. At least they got their first takeaway. Hashtag, zero and 17. Hashtag, first pick in the NFL draft.

And probably another one, hashtag, fuck this team. Yeah. It's how Jets fans feel. But I do appreciate the fact that Jets fans say, Hey, it's kind of selfless of Jets fans, which I don't think any of us expected. Hey, we get to sit through this misery every week, every year, okay? We are a select group. Don't make England do this.

Don't make all of Europe do this. Don't make the entire country waking up, having a little brunch, little eggs with the family. Don't make them be forced to watch this shit on TV. I like the Jets fans are saying that. Jets versus Broncos defense looking ahead had to be the biggest nightmare lineup schedule for London in the history. Just with what Justin Fields was, what they're trying to build,

how it's going to go. That Bronco's defense feasted, and it was very apparent that they were outwitted, out, dueled, outdone. Yeah. When it comes to the Jets offense, and Aaron Glenn before halftime, I will go back to it.

He has the same eyes we have. And he's saying, let's get the fucking half time. Please, let's get out of here. I don't want to do this anymore. They can get that face. They can figure it out. Sure.

But I think the Broncos' defense is going to do that to a lot of people. I think they're also, like, I mean, we're kind of joking, but also, like, if we really do want to grow the game internationally, like, I get good teams don't really necessarily want to give up a home game to go play. You can't be sending the fucking Jets over there. Can't be sending these shitty teams over there. Like, that used to be the thing. Hey, we got a game in England.

Let's send the Jaguars when they fucking sucked. Like, that was the thing. They were pretty good over there. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, at time. Get some wins over here. But we – Irmaier's first win. We need to be sending good teams over here, period.

Like, it's just got to happen. Well, especially we're waking up at 9.30 to watch it. Exactly. We're watching this thing. So it's like a primetime game, but in the morning, starting our day. This is the entire NFL Sunday. It's a tired day. We need it to be great.

I mean, we do get one good thing out of this, and this is McQuaid facts. Did we get any new – McQuade, Tibbet. But that's a really good question, actually. Did we get any? Yeah, yep. McQuade actually did send a cup. Couple here. Shout to at McQuade NFL.

Yep, at McQuade NFL, Michael McQuade. So he was, you know, we were talking about how this game was a snooze fest pretty much, and he just kind of wanted to put it in comparison to the Croke Park game, lads, in Ireland. So obviously, 700, or excuse me, 74, 512 fans in Croke Park in Ireland, registered 120 decibels in that game. Very loud, very, you know, yeah, incredibly loud. I believe McQuaid actually had the little meter in his hand for the entire game while he was calling it. 120 decibels, lads.

in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which is where this game was played on Sunday. 62,850 fans only registering 94 decibels. Now, could that be, you know, a sleepier game? Obviously, 1311, kind of more of like a baseball game score, not really an NFL game score, lots. But McQuade actually wanted to go a step deeper, lads. He got some readings from the Tottenham substation, which is basically a power grid near the area,

because he said, well, you know, yeah, decibels is one thing. I want to measure gigawatts. Which is obviously what we're measuring, you know, for electricity and that kind of stuff. Believe it or not, he had some boots on the ground at the Tottenham substation. Only registered

300,000 gigawatts in that game. If you go to the Croke Park game. Okay. What are your comparison? Yep. Exactly. Well, yeah, I mean, McQuade's not fucking half-ass in anything. There's not a power station that close to Croke Park.

So McQead got in his car right after of the game, drove down to the Bally Lumpford Power Station, which is about an hour and 15 minutes. Let's say roughly 75 kilometers away from Croke Park. That actually registered 500,000 gigawatts, 200,000 more gigawatts.

66% more. And a lot of people, McQuade himself was saying, maybe that is because, you know, Carson Wentz and the lads were out there. And Carson Wentz may need to, we mentioned it, you lads mentioned it. Carson Wentz may need to just stay internationally, bounce from England to Yarland to

Madrid. He needs to be the international quarterback, and I'll even go a step further Lods. He might need to play quarterback for both teams. Oh, I didn't even think about that because there's an all-time quarterback. Yeah, the beginning stages of football, that would be a very normal move for them to catch up. 500,000 gigawatts to 300,000 gigawatts, electricity from Ireland, obviously on display all morning.

Yeah, exactly. And for McQuaid to go down to the Ballet-Lumford Power Station. I can picture him down there. I know. Yeah, exactly. Went Spelunkin down there pretty much. I've got to find out the actual wattage of this because it's crazy lots. And that's another McQueen fact. Those are McQuid facts.

Thank you, McQuid. Let's go to another overreaction. This one's from the Yeaton-Yenzer at R. Bibby 76. Love everything he's about. He won that title, too. He didn't buy it. It's on his chest. Hashtack, I don't want to overreacts,

but the Stillers are a team of destiny. It's written in the tombs of the Great Pyramids. The stars are aligned. Mother Ayahuasca has spoken. Myron and Codon. and Joe Norto are smiling down on us. Here we fucking go, baby. Eat and the insur speak for all of you, Tony?

Yeah, they do. We are finally back to playing Steelers football. And I've been asking that for a long time. You know, there was a time this year where my hope had faded a bit, and that was against Seattle Seahawks. But I didn't know at the time how good of a team Seattle Seahawks were. First two weeks of the season, the Steelers defense was giving up 150 rush yards a game,

and they were only sacking the quarterback. one and a half times a game, okay? Those three games since that, they're averaging five and a half sacks a game. They're only giving up 80 yards rushing per game. Last three games, they've had six sacks, six sacks, and five sacks. So they are now playing Steelers' defense, again,

like they were supposed to, and then we're running the ball. We're bully ball. Aaron's getting the ball out quick. D-kick McHoff was the best investment that the Pittsburgh Steelers have ever made. Things are great. Jalen Ramsey, two sacks.

He gave a great quote afterwards. I'm going to tell my kids that I play in the game with T.J. Watt and Miles Garrett and I got two sacks. That's pretty crazy. All the money they've invested. seemingly working for the stage. Yeah, it's definitely paying off. That's what you want.

The money you spend to show up on game days. Now, I think the Browns helped them out a little bit. I don't know how many times Dylan Gabriel threw the ball, but I feel like he threw it 79, so that's never a position you want to put. 52, I think. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's crazy, especially when you have the, I think they have talented backs back there. But yeah, this is the still as you want now.

Dan O. He's come along. He's come over on the other side. Everybody's kind of on that bandwagon. Do you think, I know you usually kind of pessimistic? They can actually make a run down the stretch and fake, you know, the Bills, the Patriots, the Colts, can they actually make a run to the top of the NFC? Well, tell them, Tony.

Patriots lost to the Steelers already. Yeah, that was, it was good. Different teams, both of them. A good ball game. Bear and five turn of? I do. I do. I feel really good about it.

The Chiefs are the team that scares me. Let's talk about that defense, though. Chiefs obviously found it on offense. We all saw it the last few weeks. The Chiefs is still the Chiefs, which is certainly going to be a conversation piece. But this Pittsburgh Steelers' defense, Jalen Ramsey, obviously getting home. Herbig, that little, huh, huh?

He did. So good. So good with his hands, man. Herbigg is, like, his body angle and his hands like that, dude's his stuff. This one right here. Oh, no. Look at that.

Like, still. Could have a pick, too. Imagine if they played on field turf, how much, how you could bend much better because the grass isn't going flying off the cleats. You're not falling every play. Yeah, I didn't even think about the Pittsburgh Steelers and Accruesure working against your defensive line. This one.

have the defensive line, and you guys are working against it with, I mean, Bitzwreck Steelers might be for real, huh, Bob? They are. It feels like yesterday was finally one where it was like, oh, okay, this felt like you get, there's sometimes the wins that don't feel great or whatever, and it's, you know, like, oh, we got lucky. This one felt good. This one, I mean, 22 straight at home against the Brown, so they're going to give you

that, but, you know, it felt right. No, but the Brown's got to figure it out. How about Coach Tom on today, AJ? He never does that. Oh, he's the man. I love it. Hopefully as he goes, he gets even more. more wide open with it.

Andrew Barry must be smarter than all of us, I guess, this fucking guy. So this guy's good enough to be your starter five weeks ago. Now you're trading them in the division to a team that has no chance. We don't care. Are we trying to win football games, or what are we? What the fuck is going on? Love the Tomlin

said. He also knows that this week, I believe Steelers are, and Tomlin is 0 and 6 on the road on Thursday nights against divisional opponents, so he needs one here. He said, don't matter what it happened in the past. I'm talking about the 20-25. He said, I've got my ass kicked in a variety of ways. 19 years, it was awesome.

It's got the next overreaction. Carson Spence at Carson Spence 20. Hashtag I don't want to ever react, but... I was about 30 seconds away from fully giving up on the Charger season, but that 6'6, son of a bitch, took some hits and delivered a win. Fully back until they lose again. Hashtag BDFU, hashtag bowled up, Carson Spence telling the truth over there. That's right.

I mean, we can't stress this enough. The Miami Dolphins, okay, McDaniels, come out and said, too, it can't be doing it with what he said. In that moment, at that time, that can't be what our franchise quarterback's doing. McDaniel said, Tua, doing that because it's a lost press conference instead of a win press conference. So they had the lead with 40 seconds left. Touchdown drive down the field. They do.

The Miami Dolphins. Darren Waller, we just added him, activated him. He's got five touchdowns this guy. Everything could be going in the right direction for the Miami Dolphins. But instead, to old buddy Carson Spence's point, this 6-6 mighty man, as Harbaugh described him, walks down the field and Cameron Dicker goes 14 of 14 on the season and hits a game winner. It's like, that's crazy how much a narrative can change. But with that being said, the Chargers lose this game in the past.

Yeah. This is a game that the Chargers lose in the past instead of winning. That's how fickle, you know, winning and losing is in the NFL. This could have been easily the third loss in a row for the Chargers. you know, it's all doom and gloom, but yeah, you can make that big time play. And as a defense, you go out there less than 50 seconds left. They have one timeout. You got to find a way to get a stop.

Lab McCunky, I mean, he's an unbelievable talent. You get him the ball. He made something happen, it was special, and then Dicker, kicker, who doesn't miss doing his thing. So that's two phases of your game, winning that game for you. And on the flip side, as a quarterback, as the leader. It's always a leadership council on the team, but he's at the top of that leaderboard. As a quarterback, you can't come out to the media. say shit like that.

Kamani Vidal, I believe is his name. 18 rushes, 124 yards, three receptions, 14 yards, and a touchdown. This guy's unbelievable. Obviously, they have a lot of injuries at a lot of different positions out there in L.A. Harbaugh doesn't care. Neither does Herbert.

Special team win over there, AJ, especially in the time crunch that they had to do it in. Yeah, it was impressive. Look at Vidal. Can you imagine tackling this? Look how big his lower body is. Like, guys like that that run behind their pads. I hate that cliches.

Oh, they run behind their pads, but look at them. just there's no easy way to get this dude down when he runs hard he's got to get some shake to him as well so it was impressive win for real but yeah the dolphins to a situation that's just that's bizarre right now dano definitely was thinking of them when he thought the coach was getting uh absolutely uh kamani vidal Troy running back third team all-American okay coming out of college and then now he might find himself a job for next few years because how special he's been for this charger's team yeah and luckily for the dolphins they got dowdell and then they got vodal So, I mean, that's just bad luck for the dolphins

going up against two of the best running backs in the league. It's okay, Gumpch. Any running back in the league's going for 200 on this defense. That's just clockwork. Junkin's going to do it on Sunday in Cleveland. Don't worry, boys. He's just going to keep rolling. I'll tell you what, it doesn't feel like you guys are quitting it all on each other.

All right, let's go to the next one. It was three games. Three games we lost that you could have won. That's how close the NFL is, you know? Yeah, and I'm just saying that everything we're hearing out of there. It feels like kumbaya in a locker room. It's kind of just every time, too, it gets on a microphone. He just says something.

that just doesn't need to be said. It's awesome. Every time? Every time. He gets to the podium. He says something absurd. Well, what do you mean? I heard he throws five touchdowns.

Yeah. He'll go home, crack a smile. He'll be fine. Carry on. Throw three touchdowns, bury the whole team. Like, it's $212 million, dude. You're the leader of the team. You've got to do something better than that.

He was trying to speak to the boys. He wasn't. I think so, huh? Well, I think everybody you said, not the right, huh? Or the right thing. say bring up something nobody knows about and then say i'm trying they're not it's like you're grand standing on something you're building the at the time you just lost nobody wants to hear it

just a little self-awareness yeah is all gumpy's looking for i think that is what everybody they also like i know they lost they stink i get it but he could have been a little like they fought back to take the lead and then they obviously lost like there was positives to take instead of just throwing that out there well he took ownership too there was a lot of other thing said at that press conference, which I saw a lot of people saying, I want to hear him say he threw three interceptions. It's his fault. And it's like, he did, he did. Just the only thing that

got clipped is him throwing his teammates aren't in a bus or something. We didn't know his teammates were even done. You know, which is nice. And also, taking shot of leadership, which he in there, rightfully said we. He did say we as leadership, so I think he owned that a little bit. But it's ugly down there. You're all right,

Dolphins fans. You're all right. Why not? It's a lie. Because you never know. Every day is a closer day to the right answer for the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, which in this case, every day is a day

closer to Mike McDaniel getting fired and kind of blowing up the whole thing and restarting. Nothing matters. If you don't get rid of Chris Greer, nothing matters. Nothing else matters. If Chris Greer still has a job, you get rid of McDaniel, keep to it, it's all going to be the same. If Chris Greer is still there,

we still won't win a fucking playoff game, since the moment he's been there. There's a lot of football left. He stinks. It's before him, too. Does Chris Greer can't wear those high joggers too or no? No, he wears a hat with a suit. Looks super cool.

It sounds like he looks cool, but it's just not turning out the way he envisioned it. A lot of football left, though. Don't give up. It is a lot of ball, though. It's kind of scary to think there's a lot of ball left at the same time. Yeah, but it's also kind of scary to know that we're deep into the season already, bro. I texted with Connor last night. Like, hey, we're in it, in it right now.

We're in the season right now. We are deep in the season. There's about to be like maybe a little rookie wall that's about to hit, actually, with how we're in the season. There's no light at the end of the tunnel, and they're deep in this entire thing. Senior year, last year of college, draft combine prep, right into spring, right into summer, right into the training camp, right into an NFL preseason, right into NFL season. It's like, we're getting into it right now.

We're about to hit that. Like two weeks, it's going to be potentially something unless they're mentally tough. And warriors, they're ready for ball. You know who's a warrior? This guy at once absolutely saw down the Packers. It's from John's anthics, seemingly got long hair. At Jay Ben, Colorado Springs. Heard great things.

Hashtack, I don't want to ever reacts. But this Packers team could be in trouble. Coming out of a buy and we're barely scraping by the Bungles? Feels like they haven't had a complete game since week one. Let me know who still has them as Super Bowl favorites because I have a bridge in Arizona to sell them. There's no bridge. That's what he's saying, Ty.

Do you feel the same way he does? We just came out of a buy. We're scraping by the bungles. They got Joe Flacco. They're still an NFL team. There's always a chance they can win. Yeah, I mean, as a whole, you know, the Super Bowl favorites, obviously feeling much different about this team than I did after week one when they beat the Lions.

They just, they play to the level of their competition, which good teams typically don't do. Like, there's no reason that the Bengals should have, you know, hung around with them yesterday. They don't step on anybody's throats. They don't have any killer. instinct. So, yeah, like, things can change, obviously. It's still early. They're technically first in the division.

I was telling some of the guys earlier, you know, I personally, I don't know if a team who's ever tied is going to win a Super Bowl. I think that maybe just like a football gods thing. They don't want that one in the tie column at the end of the season. But we'll see. It's just weird because one week the offense looks great and the defense looks like shite. And then the next week, the defense looks like shite. But the offense is rolling.

it'd be nice if there's just a bit of consistency there but we'll see you know things could be a lot worse i mean it's one of those things where it's like are you really going to bitch that much about being three one and one and being in first place right now uh but that's the fun of it yeah i am going to bitch because i think this team could win a super bowl and as of right now you know they're just i'm just not seeing it okay what's a successful season we're in the super bowl what if they win a playoff game and then lose no i think you have to go to at least the nFC championship this year it's the packers it's the same deal Jordan Love, he's getting paid over $50 million.

You just paid Micah Parsons, basically $50 million. In their heads, Micah Parsons was the piece that was missing. He was the piece that was going to be able to take them to the Super Bowl. So, yeah, you can't even making the playoffs doesn't work. I expect them to win the division, and especially when you look at the NFC right now. There are some teams that are, but going into the year, it was like, wow, how is anybody going to be able to compete with the Eagles? And clearly they look how they look. So, like, the NFC is kind of wide open.

What the hell's going on with the Eagles? We'll find out. Let's talk about the NFC's top dogs. This is from Jimmy Briggs. At Ginger Briggs 36, he's got a very light complexion in red hair. Hashtack, I don't want to overreacts. But simply put Baker's playing like an electroqueted Tasmanian devil out there. Call it now.

Bucks are to Super Bowl champs. Give Baker the MVP and the keys to the city. Get her wide receivers room, some Tylenol, and watch the boys win out. Four wide receivers out. Okay? Two tackles out at the beginning of the season. They have yet to put out their best team in their four-in-one. Baker Mayfield has been outrageous, AJ Hawk.

He's been awesome. And they cut to the sidelines during this game. And you see Godwin and Mike Evans stand there in street clothes. Like, wow, this is unbelievable what they're able to do with so many guys hurt and so many superstars hurt. So, yeah, Baker's, he's on a run right now. As long as Baker can stay healthy and keep this juice up, man, like, why not Baker for the MVP and the bucks to make a run at this thing?

Incredible graphic here, Bone, honestly. Yeah. Yeah, Bone. You can tell that Bone really was excited about this one. You know, there's some where he misses. Sure. But there's some where he really hits. Wow.

And he got to go for it to hit. But if you go for it and you miss, it's obviously a bigger conversation. Bone had a good day. Yeah, Bone's doing well. The Colts one with the mirror and Peyton Manning and Marvin. That was pretty good, too. Yeah. In Bone, I think he's doing a little bit, maybe even night before prep.

Oh, hey, what? Yeah. That's great. It's crazy. Smart guy. Hey, Bonn, we appreciate it, brother. You too. Traffic departments, good work over there, boys.

You know, I told the WVE events were in the morning this weekend, so he didn't have to stay up late. On that note, teamed in plenty of us today. On that note, the boys were watching us in Australia. They definitely aren't watching us now because I guess we've been on ESPN over there.

They were watching us, the crew, camera crew. Oh, nice. Yeah, it had to be three, pretty late. They had to be doing it. You were 12 plus two? Yeah.

though it would have been 14 hours 10 o'clock at night so they texted me at 140 saying they were watching what's that 340 yeah I think the boys might have had one over there a little bit sounds like it sounds like maybe they're having they've been over there a while or no see what happened to the vision

I heard man that was this morning right yeah what happened just felt it hmm set freaking Rollins he's not right I don't know ever again sucks really yeah Braun Breaker saw them in half.

The vision now split. Holy fuck. Oh, that's understandable. Crazy. Yeah, Seth's got a kin, man. It's Braun Breaker. Oh, man. Oh.

Oh. Oh. He happened earliest morning. Yeah. Safe travels back, everybody. That's right. Oh, boys. And girls, yes, of course.

Let's go to the next overreaction. Jake Roth. Hashtack, did you see, speaking of girls, did you see Rio over there? We saw her do a show. Yeah, sorry to a shooie. When she walks out there, the way that place, that has to feel so cool for her. Yeah.

Like an entire country around. It's almost like an Olympic, it is like an Olympic sport whenever she walks out there. And boy, what an absolute beast. And then Brunson Reed gets a winner over Roman Rains. That's bullshit. I agree. Well, Roman told us he was jet lagged. He's been jet lag since he was over there.

He said body a little bit sore. Was Ray gone there? Yes. I don't know if they did. any of that. Did they do any of that? I don't know. They do a lot of gimmicks now with all that stuff on the ring. How many things from that Olympics do you remember outside of Reagan?

The sniper. The kid from here. Yeah, the gold medalist, Chinese sniper, the woman, and the Russian-looking dude. The silver medalist, yeah. Cole Hawker. The Indianapolis, they had it won 15.

Oh, yes. Long hair. Yeah, Steph Curry. Kevin Durant went crazy. A couple different times. Tyrese Halliburton really kept the team together. Women's three-on-three team didn't win a game. True.

They swam in that poop river. Oh, yeah. It was a pretty good. Sky Sheffler won a gold medal. Boom. And cried while they were doing the national anthem. That was so six. Wow.

Represent the country. Yeah. Chills. And then also Reagan, right? Yeah. One of the top stories of the Olympics. Yeah, breakdance's debut. It's a good Olympics.

It was a pretty good Olympics. Yeah, it was a good Olympics. I feel like the Olympics's only going to get better and better. Just in a content world. that we're in? I think things are only going to get better. I think lacrosse, it genuinely will help a lot. Are they letting the native team exist? I'm not

sure. And to be fair, it's a different game than like the pro league, but I think their version of it is the NOL version and I think it's going to do really well. So if there was a Canadian team, a United States of America team, and a native team, I think that would be good TV.

Not that any of the other countries don't have good teams, but it's like, I feel like that would draw a lot of interest, a lot of especially because the sports beginnings, right? I mean, that's how... Yes, and any argument that's like, well, if we have a Native American team from North America, then there might be other Native American teams that want to play.

And, like, sure, that's valid, but the Native American team from North America will win the gold medal. So it's a little different than some of the other possible situations that the Olympic Committee might... The USA boys and the Canadian boys, like, hey, let's not talk about that. Remember, some big things happened.

Well, and they probably want... I'm sure, Team USA and Team Canada, wants the natives that are american oh yeah oh yeah definitely that's why they're like let's not be pushing for this too much here we need another gold medal we will get to worked out here also very excited for flag football and to see how many NFL guys play in that and also our girls flag i hope we dominate and that one should be who's running USA football remember we hated that didn't we hate USA football that was debone who's doing it i don't know exactly yeah it's not debone but

Dibone was contacted by USAFil, which after watching his highlight, understandable. Especially with how good he was with his eye black. He's a road grader, man. He's a road grader for real. He looked good. And he's a hearty brother with his eye black. Or his thing relative with how good his paint stays on his face. That was fourth quarter. I didn't see

a smear. No. No. Not a single smudge. He was pulling. He was pulling. All over everything. All right. Last overreaction here from Jake Roth. At Jake Roth 13. Hashtack, I don't want to ever react. But we can officially retire this sentence. Stefansky is a two-time coach in the year. This guy is a certified dipship.

Never in my life did I think I would rather watch that lunatic Ken Dorsey called him than what I'm currently watching. Brown's got a lot going on. Good luck over there, team. Thank you, everybody who tweeted alongside of us. Thank you for watching today. We'll be back tomorrow reacting to the end of week six of the NFL this evening as two games are played. The Bills and the Falcons, the Bears, and the commanders. A.J. Hawk is on the Bills minus three and a half.

am on the Falcons plus three and a half, as is Darius Butler after he found out that GZ will be performing at halftime. And then Bears at Commanders on ABC starting at 815 with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. A.J. Hawk is on the commanders minus five and a half. I am on the Chicago Bears plus five and a half. And Debutt is on Bears. Bears plus five and a half as well. Okay, me and you with DeBuck. Let's have a night tonight. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Shout out to Indiana getting a win. Shout up to Oregon for the hospitality. Place is beautiful. It was really nice. Dan Lanning

took a shirt off. That was all. That was not neither of us had any idea that any of that was happening. Because Nick Saban gave the whole, why don't you fire these guys up a little bit? I'm like, oh, I didn't expect Saban asked that question. I like that. And I think Dan felt obligated because Saban asked the question. Well, I got to do something fucking Saban.

Got to do this entire thing. So he stands up and then he looks at me and says, well, you want to take that off? Because the jacket, he wanted us to potentially green yellow out, you know, because the whole white out thing that happened at Penn State. I'm like, sure. take jacket up then i see him saying okay we're going up on top of this thing and then obviously if we're up there yeah what it yeah you gotta do it we gotta take the shirt off here him doing that awesome the amount of ink he has yeah massive that had to hurt so bad very painful area yeah i have like

one tiny little tat for my daughter here he had that thing filled up completely for his wife who we told her story last year about her battling i believe through some cancer and everything else with their beautiful family it's like dan landing's a badass i got nothing but respect for Oregon. I did say or imply that their baseball team wins a bunch of national championship. Oregon State fans, it told me that's not the case.

They create MLB players. They don't create national championships. That's what Oregon State does. I apologize to the Beavs for taking it away from you, but neither me nor Dan knew this was happening. He had no idea in the middle of it. Which is what makes a beautiful morning on game day and why we're incredibly lucky to be there. And yeah, thank you, Oregon.

That was a hell of a trip out there. Fun show. How about Kirk traveling? Crazy. Peter just sitting there. Dog. Actual. That was a green Jeep. It was.

Deboned driving that thing. Darren driving that thing. Kirk didn't trust him to know where he's going. Yeah, turn left here. Yeah, we're going in here. Come on, Darren, geez. I don't think you had Starlink on the flight, which was certainly a first question of mine when I heard we're doing this again.

I was pretty pumped up about it. You got Starlink on that plane? I don't know. No. Okay. You should know. Because if you have Starlink on that thing, it'd be clearer than whenever you're sitting on the set. That shit's outrageous. The plane Starlink is out of control. We had three quad boxes going on the way home. That's so cool.

That's how it should be. That's huge. Better. The Starlink Wi-Fi. I don't know what it is on Earth. Debut said it was shite. That for me. That was a year and a half, maybe two years ago. Maybe they've upgraded. Maybe more satellites are sending up there. I don't know how it is on earth down here, but on a plane, it is the greatest by far.

As somebody that has been told by a flight attendant, whenever I asked about the Wi-Fi, can you reset it? We're on a plane, okay? That is just very recent. Like, I get it. We're on a plane. Wi-Fi in general is technology that's pretty insane. I think we all feel like it is wild that we're able to do any of the things that we're doing. I mean, look at this fucking plane.

How is this thing flying from the Wright brothers to what we're doing now? With that being said, there is Wi-Fi that works on some of these planes. It feels like you're playing doesn't work. So is there any way we can change that? I'll hit the reset, I guess. But once again, and then Starlink comes in, it's like better Wi-Fi than you've experienced ever at your house. Hell yeah.

It's awesome. It's unbelievable. Game changer. Yeah, absolutely game changer. Truly. Game changer for life. It really is. So I can't wait to see how that goes throughout the season.

Maybe you'll get a FaceTime, AJ, you know? If you're a high state team slips up, which they don't look like they have a weakness. They are so good. Julian's saying saving game. of a sad. He's completely like 80% of his passes. All we're talking about is Matt Patricia in the defense. It's like Julian Sane, new starter. He's bettering everybody in the league.

He throws a good ball. Which was the M.O. coming out of camp, right? Out of spring was like, hey, this guy can spin it, spin it. Yeah, he's got special, like, release, armed talent. Yeah, he stands in the pocket. He'll get, he's not scared to stare down the barrel and know he's going to get hit and deliver a nice ball over the middle. Yeah,

the guys, I think he's awesome. How come they didn't? They left ducks on a pawn out there. I owe age. There was no I-O. Do you see that? Yeah, I did. It's all right. I didn't know that when I came back and I was playing against the duck and Tick-Tac-Tow that we were on TV. I thought they were potentially doing that at the other end of the table talking to Reese and Des. I didn't know we were all on television at that point.

I should have been paying attention, but obviously I was locked in. As I got back up there, Sabin and the Duck were finishing up a Tick-Tac-toe game. And I could tell that Saban did not know how to play Tick-Tac-Tow. Okay, does that make sense? No, like he knew how to play. He didn't know the strategy. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't know the game.

He didn't know how. Oh, whoa. Give it away. Yeah, that's a good call. We didn't need not give it away. He understands that it's three in a row, but he doesn't know that there is hook line and sinker to this fucking thing, coach. And if we were to teach him one time, oh, of course. You be able to get it now.

So Saban beats the duck because duck is like kind of patronizing Coach Sabin a little bit. Like, I don't think Sabin knew he was getting into a tic-tacel game. And then the duck was kind of pointing at one, basically, for Coach Sabin. I immediately looked at the duck and I once again I didn't know my show was on and I said hey I'm a I'm a good tech toe player and the duck goes me too rips off piece paper here we go we do this I'm locked in completely this I assume Reese and Des are sending this to something else because that bison's up there too yeah the bison's up there's a new mascot Sabin's standing there he's jacked great mascot very very jacked that that bison is he's very very jacked and then all of a sudden

back, boom. He blocked the first one. So he made the first move. I make first move. He goes to opposite corner. He knew what I was doing. So I had to go from my third move is now my second move. Had to set him up, get him somewhere else. Had to drag him into the deep end. Then all of a sudden, bang, now we're back, bitch. And it was, he thought he had it too. And then all of a sudden, he looks at it again. And he had on his thing. And I go, yeah, duck. That's, and I'm picking against you. Just because of this is what I told him. duck is by far the most moxie good mascot out of any mascot

the most there's one that you should probably be at this weekend blue very good I will say blue for the Colts very good what's the flopper wopper the one down in Atlanta

blooper blooper Connor's right there there's one that is the most athletic the BYU the BYU the Coog oh yes he jumped over a flaming parallel bar

the other weekend he's pretty awesome i love that that thing sends it yeah so cool week it's incredibly athletic that would have been amazing to be it the holy war utah b yu yeah one's five and one one six and oh you know that entire state from what we got to experience a couple years back there loves ball they would shut that shit down yeah georgia jorge's never had it though right georgia old miss we haven't been to georgia yet this year oh which is what you were implying i I think you cannot wait to get back down there. Obviously, a lot of greatness has emanated from that campus down there in Athens, Georgia. In Ole Miss getting a chance to, you know, highlight and get to an Ole Miss game for the first time since I've been on a program is awesome.

And obviously, both top 10 teams, fresh out of what happened with Georgia last week, a lot of people saying he was clapping, timeouts. I don't know. We'll see how that goes. But if we were to want to the Holy War, which can't wait to get down here for this, it's awesome. Anytime you get a chance to experience an SEC football experience, you do it. You definitely do it. Been down to Georgia before. But I think the Holy War, I wonder how much of a conversation it was.

Yeah, I'm just pissed because the, like, the scenes are the biggest, like, part in, by far, since you've been doing Game Day. The worst scenes have been Georgia every time you've gone. But it's just one of those things where, like, BYU and Utah will both be six and O and five and one at some point in the future. For the next Holy War. For the next Holy War. For the next Holy War. You got Bailey Zimmerman and Luke Colms, too. Yeah, that's big.

Holy fuck. And I love Bailey. I like both of them a lot. I think they got them on the schedule for this weekend, no matter where we were heading to. And obviously, Georgia, I assume, big Luke Combs and Bailey Zimmerman fans, which would have been sick. So, yeah, I'm pumped to get a little music in there,

a little entertainment, have a good time. Athens, though, does have a lot of college game day experience. There's been a lot of game days there. A lot of game days there. I mean, I've been kicked out of a restaurant down there. Yeah, Carson's back. That had spilled water all over my pants. And then he didn't say sorry.

And he just gave Kirk Hurstreet a hat. Actually, he gave me a hat to give to Kirk Curb Street. So that was fun. I'm a Georgia guy. I like the dogs. Ogo is one of my favorite mascots in the whole entire world. Hotels weren't great either. I'll just pile on real quick.

Oh, good point. Good point. Hotel bar closed at 11. I was like, oh, okay, I guess it's not go dogs around here. No, it is. You just got to go spend money in time. Okay, go support the town. You're in here for a game.

A lot of history there for football. remember a lot of history there for football and this weekend maybe be a part of it again yeah lane kiffin and old miss that is awesome yes yes come into town kirby smart awesome yeah uh huh kirby smart awesome yeah football team awesome game huge gonna be great to be there yeah lucky to get down there who's that coming down a track that's right yeah it's a main machine red and black that's right what how many times that's gonna happen better early leave what's that On my pick? Yeah.

Don't you worry about my picks. Okay. I do happen to fancy one particular team over another team in this particular matchup. Wow. Doesn't mean that won't change on Saturday, even during the show, I will say. Okay. There are a couple picks that have been made where I am allowing the vibes decide how I think the game's going to go. Because I think you can get a sense of how, you know, everything feels, how the universe is in that moment.

So I've switched before. Have you had one this year where you switch based on the vibes? Yes. Okay. Penn State. And let me tell you, that was 15 days ago. Yeah. And we're in a much different time now than we were then.

And yeah, life is crazy. College football is awesome. We'll be back tomorrow. AJ, good luck with your picks tonight, brother. Thank you. Thank you. I need it. We need you to hold it down for us in the NFL side of the things.

Great working in the back, boys. All right, we got another episode of Rushmore X coming out tomorrow morning. Bands. Greatest bands. Okay. We got Rick Rubin and Jimmy Iveen on that thing. Obviously, Ari and Ben Persky will be the host. It is

a good one. This is a Jimmy Iveen's one of the funniest humans of all time. I don't know how many different things have been said about Jimmy Iveen. I think a lot negative. Guys been around a long time. I think obviously he's done a lot of very positive things as well, but there's certainly I think negative stuff that has been said about him in the past.

Once you watch these episodes that he's on, there's a couple music ones, you're going to think he's one the funniest fucking people involved. Jimmy I. Bean throws absolute gas. Yeah, 110. 110. And Rubin, obviously, OG. It's like, throughout the entirety of the episode,

it's incredible. This one's sick. And they even, there's a lot of learning about modern music tying back to even like the 70s music. And there's a band name that's mentioned on this thing tomorrow that you're going to never heard of. And then every song you listen to you're just going to think of this fucking band and how they're not reaping the benefits. yeah at all anything that they did

so it's a cool trip down memory lane we're lucky to be a part of this and the boys did a great job editing it producing it creating it and then obviously Ari and Ben piecing that whole thing together way to go boys so that's tomorrow morning should be good

I think you learn a lot about me if you like music it's a great episode if you don't like music don't like music don't fucking watch but if you don't like music and you're signing up to watch greatest bands I don't need to hear your shit yeah I don't know I don't like music

and I watch it and I thought it was great okay there you go yeah but you're being forced to that because you're a sell-out. Remember, that's what everybody said. That's also true. I do appreciate that. People are attacking us for promoting it. I see, like, people, obviously, oh, I put in a tweet out. It's like, I'm, like, very proud of the boys.

This is the first time we've been given the opportunity to, like, edit and create and do this entire thing. Producing the show. Yeah, the production company, it's like, I'm very proud of what. Talk worked his fucking ass off on this thing. And he still is. Yeah, right now, currently, yeah. So it's like, I'm very proud of it. I think boys have done a great job.

It's great show, though. best guest lineup out of any show that's ever been created ever been created and that's the r a manual difference baby yeah yeah i want to talk about bands who should i have on how about jimmy iv and fucking rick rubin sure davy if you can get them all i'll get like three episodes okay sick uh i want to talk about like moguls and stuff who would you want to get oh fuck i'll just get elon i guess he's like

jeff bezos yeah can you get steve jobs out of the fucking grave Maybe get him in this sometime. Yeah, actually. There's a hologram of him, man. It's actually giving some answers. It's a crazy lineup. The conversations are epic, and we tried to keep it to a length

where it is very easily digestible and tomorrow is banned, so hopefully you enjoy that. We'll be back tomorrow overreacting to everything that happens tonight. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice that might change your life. We're in this thing together.

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