The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 143 - Willis McGahee, There's A Kleptomaniac In The Office, & The Business Inside The Game

Episode Date: December 13, 2019

On today’s show, Pat reacts to ESPN’s like of five most attractive expecting coaching vacancies at the end of the season and he has a few questions about which ones are seen as much better than the others and if he thinks that is accurate or not. Pat and the guys also dive into some World News with Nick as they discuss Clinton Portis and a few other players accused of defrauding the NFL’s league health program with false claims amounting to around $4 million, and OBJ telling everyone that he can that he wants out of Cleveland and for certain teams to come get him. Later, 2x Pro Bowler, 2002 Heisman Trophy finalist, and former Running Back for the Bills, Ravens, and Broncos, Willis McGahee, joins the show. He gives his opinion on players sitting out bowl games in college in hopes of avoiding an injury that will derail their NFL draft stock, as no one is more intimate with that situation that anyone else. Willis also gives his thoughts on Lamar Jackson, why he is so dangerous, and what makes him such a threat. Willis and Pat also chat about his time in Buffalo and the story behind why he had an ugly exit from Buffalo, and who he thinks is going to win the Super Bowl (36:13-46:33). Pat also reacts to Roger Goodell’s comments about no changes coming to the playoff structure in the near future, and what Pat was trying to do to help get retired NFL players benefits, gives his thoughts on Jacoby Brissett and why he has started to slow down a little bit in the back half of this season, and what he thinks Chris Ballard will do for the Colts’ roster in the offseason. Lastly, the guys chat about the hottest issue in the office right now.. there is a snack kleptomaniac in the building, and Pat gets to the bottom of it. Today’s show is a fun one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You know what I'm learning about this game? Thanks to Seat Keeper. I don't think I get to watch the Jets much. Now, the Jets, we all know are a laughing stock. I mean, they have been for a long time. Quarter mono that's tough i mean that's just you get an adolescent disease to start the season i mean that is difficult to take serious especially when this year is supposed to be here they pay levy on bell all the monies after he sat out a year and then they fire the gm after he spends all the monies make adam gaze not only head coach but also gm bring another g GM I get it but then that running back gets the flu sits out of game goes and bowls 251 I mean there's a lot of things to judge the Jets on they've looked pretty good here this

evening I mean aside from a pick at the end of the half there that I just seen deep in the red zone by Sam Darnall which was just an absolutely disgusting decision by him. I think Sam Darnold's a lot better than I give him credit for. I'm not sure Adam Gase deserves more credit than we give him, but I think Sam Darnold's better than I give him credit. He's like 15 years old, too. I mean, he kicked out Mono. You got to be young to get that.

Le'Veon Bell, Troy Aikman was kind of burying him a little bit. He doesn't think he's trying as hard as he should be. I don't know if that's the case, but Le'Veon Bell is definitely not in a situation where he's happier than when he was at Steelers. I mean, when he was at Steelers, he was trying to get the big paycheck. Then he sat out an entire year, dropped a couple rap songs, gets paid. It's a lot different world when you're sitting on yachts and jet skis

rapping than whenever you're getting your yachts and jet skis wrapping them whenever you're getting your ass kicked for a team in the biggest city in the world and they're not not the world i guess there's larger cities but in america and you're just getting beat i mean that's tough but they look better than i thought they were gonna look in this ravens team lamar jackson so much fun to watch i mean he broke michael vick's single season rush record for quarterback which i would assume i was too young at the time, I think, but I would assume everybody on earth thought that was never going to get touched. And we still have games left to play. This dude's unbelievable. He got popped on that record breaker one though, which I think everybody's scared of. Like, hey pal, you're the most dynamic football

player on earth right now. It'd be awesome for you not to get hit or hurt and hit so let's try to be a little bit more safe i assume a lot of ravens fans are thinking that but dude's a player man he's so good and mark ingram doesn't get enough credit either i know he's a big hype man big choice but i think he really sets that the whole thing off because you got to respect the run if you're that for the option to work and then these big old tight ends these big body guys hearst uh the tight end with the the long hair and the red mustache. Might be a full beard, but when he has the helmet on, it just looks like a mustache.

I wish I could grow a good mustache. But that dude, I guess he got drafted to play in the majors for baseball, and he throws like 90-something, and he somehow got the ips. He just couldn't throw a fucking strike. Imagine how upsetting that would be if you had a rocket launcher attached to your right shoulder or left shoulder. You could throw in the high 90s. And your brain and hand just can't get on the same fucking page enough to throw a strike. Like he couldn't throw a strike.

can't get on the same fucking page enough to throw a strike like he couldn't throw a strike the entire box was just an untouchable place for him cut the hips so instead he becomes a superstar tight end for Lamar Jackson one of his biggest weapons good for Baltimore good for the Ravens but I would assume that that guy's been through some things mentally to get him into a very mentally tough stage right now I couldn't even fathom how upset I would be at myself. I mean, granted, I had a very strong leg and I had no idea where the ball was going when I was kicking field goals there for a bit. But every once in a while, I'd get one just to sneak in. I was told by Ty Schmitt or a baseball guy, I just couldn't throw strikes. That'd be upsetting. Your whole life, you got this hose of an arm. You're really good.

You get drafted. Then all of a sudden, it just happens. You can't throw anymore. But you know what they would say? This is what people would say that are religious. God had a plan for this man. God had a plan. When God closes one door, another door opens.

And whenever they say that, you always say like, ah, bullshit. But it seems like for this guy, maybe that is what happened you know whichever god you believe in buddha is the oldest one so i mean he has to be in the conversation anytime you talk about god the old the oldest god is a god that should be talked about if you're talking about gods buddha jesus god ala austin collie tom cruz that whole crew of gods if we could give them a little bit of credit for this Hurst guy, whichever one it was, I mean, I think we have to. The universe finds a way for good things to happen to people, I think. And I'm happy for this Hurst guy. Hurts or Hurst?

Let me read the back of his jersey. Right, and it's his hairs in a way. All those letters are in it. Hurst, good tight end, good player. Great, this Ravens team seems to be. Like, they even struggled a little bit here tonight early, and they're still going to win by probably 21. Could be wrong.

I could have just mushed them. Mushed them. We shall see. Anyways, we got some good shit for you here okay let's get right into it after this year after every nfl season there's something called black monday where head coaches just get canned one after another coaches usually expect it coming sometimes they get blindsided they're told told the season just wrapped up. They just went through training camp. They went through a terrible year of losses and humiliation in press conferences

and the media talking bad about how they coach the football. And each week they get up in front of their team, try to motivate the guys to get them to go out there and give it their best shot. And then most of the time they don't, which is why they're in the position that they're in, and they wake up with probably a couple years and millions of dollars still guaranteed to them, and they're told immediately, we no longer want you a part of this franchise.

You stink as a head coach. You don't deserve to be holding a clipboard. You don't deserve to be standing in front of the team meeting room anymore. You don't deserve to be on the sidelineselines and we're sick of you representing our franchise and there are five spots that espn is assuming is going to be wide open one of them already is and they rank them from hot to cold digs please tell me the spots that espn thinks are a good coaching position in the places that they think are a bad potential head coach. They have the number one spot, the hottest spot, the best coaching vacancy

that they think is going to be open is the Dallas Cowboys. Which is interesting to me because all anybody says is if you go to the Dallas Cowboys, you're going to have to deal with who? Jerry Jones. Jerry. Everybody says that. If you go in there, there's zero chance of you being able to control who's on the team. And also, if you don't do what Jerry Jones expects or thinks you're going to do,

you're on national TV every single week having to run your face into a wall, basically. And that is, I don't know if that's actually the dream spot. Let's look at their team. Let's look at their team. They got a lot of talent on that team. So you could potentially turn that around. Got a lot of shine, a lot of spotlight. Dak Prescott deal still has to be done if you have a quarterback long term.

But for me, I'm not sure the Dallas Cowboys are the number one job out there right now. They said it is because of the talent. They assume Dak. Well, Zeke's going to be there. Zeke's already signed. Amari's going to be there. And they got Van Der Esch and Jalen Smith on the defensive side who are young. The O-line is pretty much signed for the next few years.

I think a positive is that Jerry will let you be an average coach for 10 years and not fire you. Something to think about right there. Something to think about. Tell the family to get comfortable. We're moving to Dallas for the next decade. Doesn't matter how I do. That has been prevalent in the past.

And two of the bottom openings here listed, the Giants and Redskins, are in your division. You got terrible people. The NFC East is terrible. If you can get a center quarterback exchange completed you could potentially win that nfc east that's a factual statement the number two spot okay carolina panthers why is that they have it listed as the gm matt herney i guess is widely respected i didn't know that i think he's a pittsburgh guy the owner tepper was a minority owner and stealer.

So you would think, hey, he might know how to run an organization. I think he's a Pittsburgh guy, too. I was told by somebody in the know that, hey, Carolina, they're only hiring Pittsburgh guys, which immediately makes me think, like, maybe I'm the head coach. Or Bill Carr. You and Carr. Me and Bill Carr from Krafton are tag teaming this thing as head coaches. They're definitely going to have $42 million guaranteed in cap space.

If they let Cam go, they get another $20 million. And then if Olsen and Don Terry Poe retire, they have another $20 million. So they might have $80 million in cap space. They have McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel on the offensive side. Defense has stunk, but they have Keekly and Shaq Thompson for the next couple years. So there's some up and down. Who's going to be the quarterback?

Cam Newton's definitely going. A new head coach is going to bring in somebody new, or they're going to ride with Kyle Allen here, or Will Greer was drafted very early last year, or, hey. I'm coming home. I'm coming home. Tell the world I'm coming home. I'm coming home. Tell the world I'm coming home.

Let the rain wash away all the pain of yesterday. And feel the heat of the wind. Phillip Rivers could potentially go back there. Could. Right? I mean, he's a state guy. Carolina Panthers. They need a quarterback.

He's definitely out of the charges. They would have renegotiated that contract already. Does he still have fire in him? I would argue that I think... Oh, boy! Left side. Head set down. Did the batteries come out?

No, you're good. No, we're good. I would argue he does have fire in him. Still competitive juice. Talks a lot of trash. Although it looks like he's throwing a med ball this year. That's something he could work on a little bit. Or they go with a young quarterback and let Christian McCaffrey continue to run that team.

I don't know if that's the number two spot, though. I mean, maybe. Christian McCaffrey is, I guess, a reason why you'd want to go. Do you think that's maybe because they're thinking Breeze is near the end of his tenure and that Saints team is going to look a lot different going forward? But Jameis Winston and that Buccaneers team is only getting hotter. Teddy, too. What did you say about Peyton Manning?

Jameis and Peyton Manning, when they were 25 years old, had the same exact stats. That's what's going around the internet. Oh, yeah. Who got buried? You got buried, bro. I did not get buried. First thing, if you're gonna talk about jamis and you want to like objectively have a discussion don't have like a buccaneers hat and

like your kid and like a buccaneers onesie in it like that's subjective you're a big fan of the team jamis stinks he does he does he beat the cold so i can't say a single thing well there is the book out that we talked about the one that uh the media is biased in, is ignoring the start of a Hall of Fame football career. Well, and I think Ty would be a checkmate for that guy because Ty is a member of the media now, and he's just burying Jameis Winston. Boom. What's the next one?

Number three is the Falcons. They had one of the positives, Arthur Blank. Apparently he doesn't fire anybody, and he's one of the nicer owners is what I'm told. Nice. Matt Ryan and Julio Jones through 2023, as well as calvin ridley they have six first round picks on offense the defense stinks and the negative they're already over the cap next year so why would anybody want this job i think i think it's the offense mercedes-benz stadium is beautiful awesome next

level it's the sphincter stadium like a butthole right up there, and it is beautiful. I mean, they spent $43 million on a bridge to the stadium. That's how nice the entire area is. Atlanta's a great city. I guess you'd get to live in Atlanta. A lot of things down there. Waffle House. You know what I mean?

There's Coca-Cola. Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A. A lot of things. Gus's. No. Gus's Fried Chicken, I believe. Don't they have incredible prices in their stadium?

Yeah. That would make you definitely want to coach there. Yeah, a good hot dog. A buck fifty for a water. I think they're assuming that Matt Ryan's good. That's what I'm saying. I've always been. I've heard he's a good guy, by the way.

Because we're on the radio here, and this is potentially being heard by people who have never heard us before, I have to preface this with saying I've heard he's an incredible guy. I've heard he's a very funny individual. But whenever we played the Atlanta Falcons in their old stadium down there, he had to throw a Hail Mary at the end with Julio Jones, who was going to get the ball if he wanted to.

And he came up 12 yards short on a Hail Mary. And at that moment, I said, how is that noodle arm an NFL MVP candidate? And then you go on and watch the 28-3 situation happen, and then you keep moving forward. It's like, I bet you Matt Ryan was very good at one point, but are we not at the point now where

we're thinking, like, is Matt Ryan a very good quarterback? Is he worth you taking a job in Atlanta knowing that the defense stinks, knowing that you're over the salary cap, knowing that Julio Jones is not always happy down there. He's a weapon. If he was anywhere else, by the way, Julio Jones probably,

it's just like what happened with Megatron up there in Detroit. Now, granted, I would assume Atlanta would pay him if he was a retire early, unlike the Lions. But Julio Jones is a freak, a specimen, a guy that you want to build a team around. But I just don't know why that team would be a hot commodity for people to go to, other than Atlanta having Lil Jon in a boy's dime. What?

Huge. Yeah. Huge asset. Yeah. Young Jeezy, too. Also, Lil Baby. Who else did we see? Big Boy.

2 Chainz. 2 Chainz. Oh. I don't know if we're allowed to say it. Are we allowed to say it? Are we allowed to say it? I think so, right? Hey, if Titty Boy's in your city, you know that's what he does.

I don't know if I would want to take the Atlanta Falcons job. I agree. The number four team, you already mentioned them, the Detroit Lions. What are we talking about? Because they have a quarterback, which is a big thing. So Matt Patricia's getting fired? That's what he is being said? They said that the Ford family has not fired a coach after two years,

I believe since Marty Morningweg. Sounds right. He was like 12 and 27. Those probably don't match up. Whatever. Foxy. Sounds right. You have no idea.

Absolutely no idea. You didn't even know that Morningweg guy was a coach. He might not have even coached there. I remember him. No, he was. Barely. Marty Morningweg was the coach there once. Yeah, he stunk.

So, I mean, this is if Patricia goes, but they have their quarterback. They have a stud young wide receiver in Kenny Galladay. Do they have a quarterback? Matt Stafford. He's a broken freaking back. Yeah, that'll heal. Does it? Does your back just heal?

I don't know. Mine's broken right now. How old is Stafford? My age, 31, 32. He's there until 2022. So he's got three seasons. He's a bull 31, 32. He's there until 2022. So he's got three seasons. He's a bulldog, though.

He's a very good football player that not enough people appreciate, I think. I agree. I agree. Because the only conversation about him is always like, oh, he puts up good numbers, but they never win. It's like, well, what do you want from your quarterback, man? What else is he supposed to do? Like, is a quarterback not supposed to put up good numbers, and then they're supposed to win?

Like, I don't understand how Matty Stafford kind of gets that bad and i think bleach report with that um unbelievable yeah pad statford or whatever it is it's like what what the hell do you want your sorry a quarterback that's a passing quarterback is putting up big numbers like what do you want the guy to do stink so they win more i don't i don't know how he's clearly clearly not the problem in detroit if he was to leave how how would Detroit Lions fans feel? They would literally go 0-16 every single year. If he leaves the Detroit Lions, I swear to you, I'm done with the franchise. What was your guys' record so far this year? We've won three games.

Was he the starter? Oh, no. Yes, he was the starter in all three of those games. I mean, he got Blau. He got Driscoll. Don't sleep on big play, Blau. Driscoll sucks. Matt Patricia.

His defense has got worse since he's got that. I have a question, though. Matt Patricia, by all accounts, very, very intelligent football coach. By all accounts. Literally. Everybody. Rocket science. Legit.

Rockets. If you look at that Seattle Seahawks game and you hear the story behind it all, he knew they were going to throw the ball. Like, he knew it was going to happen. Everybody's like, oh, the pick came out of nowhere it's like no no big brain matt patricia with his taekwondo roger knew it was gone so he goes in there and it's just abysmal it has been an abysmal situation now now there's a broken back on the quarterback there's a lot of things going on can anybody go in there and win that if you're another coach and you see what

matt patricia's done there you see what everybody else is the jim caldwell had a couple winning seasons by the way and he gets fired like the lions fan lions ownership has a couple winning seasons they're like get him out of here get jim caldwell the hell doesn't have enough personality doesn't have enough spunk let's bring in the big bearded smart guy that with taekwondo roger that'll work he hasn't won if you're a coach why would you want to take that job i just don't know i guess because you have matt stafford if you're a young guy maybe not getting offers from anywhere else i guess you go because it's a big paycheck but other than that i just don't see why you'd want that gig and i don't know if they're firing matt patricia just yet no i don't i don't i don't know if they are either i don't think so tough division

tough division especially with don hey primetime kurt cousins was born what three weeks ago yeah so he's only getting better you got aaron rogers i guess rogers is like the 16th best in the nfl so you're not really worried about that we'll talk about that soon that was said by a human who's paid to talk about football on television earlier today ty is not happy about it i just don't know a if that position is going to be open or b if i want it who's number five number five as a team that i think you like the cleveland browns this is now this is a head coaching gig i could get behind here this is something I wouldn't mind coaching failure is accepted failure is expected I mean these are things that if you fail there you're like yep there's nothing you could do this is organizational

failure from top to bottom has Has been for decades now. Fan base is still going to show up. People still love the Brownies. They're still hype before the season. And if you do bad, it's just like, same old Browns. That's just the way it'll go. But if you look at that roster, on the offensive side, who knows what's going to happen with Odell.

Apparently, Odell's been dapping people up in pregame what up man good to see you give me the hell out of here all right hey man what's up good to see you again yeah you're the best congrats on the wedding give me the hell out of here all right i guess that's been happening 2023 is his contract though they don't wanna yeah so but he's been there he's gonna be there jarvis landry's gonna be there you got um nick chubb nick chubb and um kareem hunt kareem hunt and denzel ward miles garrett defense greedy williams what are you laughing about zito oh nothing uh something popped on my computer i try xing it out i might have a virus on my computer yeah yeah yeah sorry so i kick in there the uh by the way terrible what happened there but on the defensive side of the

ball miles garrett's about to be neutered right i mean you're about to get miles garrett who's By the way, terrible what happened there. But on the defensive side of the ball, Myles Garrett's about to be neutered, right? I mean, you're about to get Myles Garrett, who's only focusing on what, working out right now? He's not allowed to be in a facility if he's suspended. So all he's going to be working on is his workout becoming quicker somehow. He was up for defensive MVP conversations the first couple weeks. Let's say he gets back in the game.

That defense is kind of coming together. If you can turn around Cleveland, you will get like a 10-year, $700 million contract. And if you can't, it's like, yeah, that's what happens. I've been told by an NFL coach before that you haven't really coached in the NFL until you got fired from Cleveland. That's just what happened. You haven't really coached in the NFL until you've been to Cleveland

and got fired from there. But if you can be the coach that can turn it around, you're a hero for the rest of your life. It's like if you're in the WWE and you have a little bit of a run, you can do signings forever. Like at bingo halls and things, you can make money for the rest of your life if you want. If you go into Cleveland in front of that dog pound and turn that franchise around, you could probably be governor of Ohio if you want, like the next day. In my eyes, that's the best job just because the expectation level the risk reward level everything is just in your favor if you win at all and you don't have to win a lot you don't have to win a

lot you win eight games nine games and then you just show that you're getting a little bit better after hugh jack city and his kitchens, you could potentially become king of Cleveland, which is a great city to be king of. They've got a couple casinos over there. Here's the problem with that. It's got to be either a young guy or a coach on his last leg because their GM Dorsey is a power-hungry guy. He doesn't like to give up a lot of power.

Whoever he gets is going to be under his thumb and it's his second chance at being a GM. He was fired from Kansas City. Yeah, but he built that roster, right? Yeah. And that's the thing. The knock on Dorsey is he doesn't care about anything

other than getting players in there, obviously. He was the only GM that would sign some players that nobody else would sign. Which, by the way, what if Antonio Brown ends up in a Cleveland Browns? Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham, and Antonio Brown playing wide receiver? They'd mess it up somehow. Now, of course.

Of course they would. But if they didn't, you're a hero forever. And we said this yesterday. After Antonio Brown's Twitter spree yesterday, not 100% sure he's ever going to get back in the NFL, which we are all bummed about. But I think that Cleveland Browns position is the one that helps. Here's the negatives that they're saying.

Five coaches since 2012. So he's got a quick trigger. You have to live in Cleveland. They said that on ESPN? Yeah, I thought I saw that on there. And then you're in a division with the Ravens. Lamar Jackson's going to be good for a long time. Yeah, and?

I'll say it. Steelers. And, I mean, the Bengals are so good that you have to record their sideline, so people think they're going to be good. So it is a tough decision. Is Baker the future, too? Yeah, he's going to have to be

for at least another year, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. How many years did they give the first overall pick? Three? You get four with a fifth-year option, I believe. No, but I'm saying,

if you fail to get it done. I mean, they gave Jamison Mariotta the whole four years. And by the way, that Tennessee Titans team has come up out of nowhere after benching him. What if that happened? Who'd they have over there? Tyrod Taylor, right? Hugh Jackson had Tyrod Taylor over there. Wanted him to start, and then Baker came in and lit a fire on the team.

And then now this year has happened. I will say this about Baker Mayfield. Might be the best actor in the NFL. Might be. There's a new commercial out every single week and I'm going to say he's good at them. I love the beepy ones. The beep one is people are coming after him with pets because they said it's

sending their dogs into a tizzy. Just mute it. Soft dogs. Well, I think when I blew his duck call, I guess all my animals started losing their minds. That happened in my house, yeah. Sam sent me a text. He was like, will you stop? Will you stop with the his duck call, I guess all my animals started losing their minds. That happened in my house, yeah. Sam sent me a text. He was like, will you stop it again? Will you stop with the damn duck call?

Our three-legged cat, Scoochie, just went off the top. My God! My God! Okay, so go through them again. Okay. One, Cowboys. So they had one Cowboys, two Panthers, three Falcons, four Lions, five Browns. Yeah, see, I wouldn't take any of those jobs other than the Browns. And then, obviously, the bad ones are they had six Jags, seven Jets,

eight Giants, nine Redskins. Good culture, the Redskins, though. Yeah, well, Bruce Allen said that. That buffoon is a guy you'd want to work for. Yeah. You would not want to go there. And, granted, will there be more coaches fired than that, or do you think that's the number?

That's a lot of coaches, by the way. That's like a third of the league getting fired. I think that's the average number, like seven to nine normally number that's a lot of coaches by the way that's like a third of the league getting fired i think that's the average number like seven to nine normally it's a lot that's insanity for me bro insanity welcome back oh man this show's going so good isn't it i hope you're enjoying the hell out of it what i will say is uh we all say don't judge a book by its cover but we also know that's exactly what most of us do appearance can be everything especially in a professional situation which is why i want to talk to you about the bag over your shoulder hear me sam are you still carrying that old college backpack to work or around town

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Sometimes we get lost in the sauce and stop talking about things that truly matter in this world. And that's why we have our friend Nick with us. Ladies and gentlemen, notable news with Nick. Nick, what's going on in the world that we haven't talked about yet? Clinton Portis is named among 10 former NFL players charged with defrauding a health care program. What does this mean? much as like 50 to $60,000. And then they would recruit more players to basically say like, Hey, if you file these false claims, we'll give you kickbacks or bribes or anything like that. Yeah.

It's like, it's a, it's a full thing. And then, so that's not to execute the plan. They were filling out like fake prescriptions and like a bunch of fake stuff to, to like,

you know, reinforce what they were doing. By the way, Clinton Portis, friend of the show, friend of this show here. Anytime fraud is involved in things and money is involved in things people normally go a lot harder than you would expect them to now morally things are wrong of course but anytime you try to take billionaires money that normally is a pretty big deal and we are very much hoping that clinton

portis can clear his name, that he wasn't as part of this as much as they are saying. I just read the article as well. They're saying Clinton Portis was a pretty big part of this, but Clinton Portis is saying he had no idea that this was happening. Obviously, he was not in the know. We are hoping, for the sake of him being a friend of our show, that he doesn't end up in jail for a long time.

But this feels like something, especially when billionaires are losing money and they have all their lawyers, and now you got what is it for a federal crime? More than 10,000. Yeah. To make it to upgrade it to like grand larceny or something like that on a state level. And it seems like it was done on more than numerous occasions. Way more than $10,000. This could be a real problem for these guys.

And this is sad to hear about. To be honest, I don't like hearing x nfl players not do good i'm actually in the process of trying to set something up to take care of x nfl players because of the stats that we all hear about 80 going broke within two years of retiring no matter how much money you made because growing up you have no idea i mean some of us when you grow up you have no concept of what money is right because you're just your parents are just trying to make it week to week trying to make the bills trying to just keep us remortgaging the house numerous times like that type of stuff and then you're handed this gross amount of cash and they're

like all right now be disciplined with this money your entire life you've looked at things that you wanted your entire life you've seen these incredible cars and these incredible houses and the way these people live they have a lot of money but you need to be disciplined with your money because you don't know how long your career is going to be. That's a lot easier to say than to actually do. As somebody that's been there, done that, who almost had zero dollars after my first NFL career going into my second year, if that season didn't start and I didn't make that team,

we would have been right back into debt. It's very hard to remain disciplined with cash when you've never had cash your entire life so a lot of nfl players obviously get into financial problems after they retire and it's a lot easier said than done to be disciplined with your money especially when there's a lot of things that are awesome out there that you could potentially that money can give you and now it takes guys to do desperate things to find ways to get cash and to generate cash i hope this is all false but boy i don't think this ends up good for the guys especially when you're defrauding billionaires

they don't like that i don't think from what i've been told just in the past do you think this like pushes back all the stuff they're trying to do for like retired players too it's like we're trying to help you guys out and you're just defrauding us on the back end so screw it why would we continue to do so i sat in like a commissioner town hall thing down at the draft the day of the draft was my first time in this it was uh it was commissioner goodell and troy smith were sitting and then there was like a circle of chairs and then there was like a second round of circle chairs and it was supposed to be just an open conversation about things that we think the nfl should get better at at with retired players and stuff like that.

And there was a lot of OGs. I mean, Matt Slater's dad is an OG in the NFL. I think he's a Super Bowl champ. He's a Hall of Famer. He was talking a lot. There was guys that were like in their 70s talking a lot about how the NFL has never really taken care of them, right? The game was built on the backs of these old players. And now that there's so much money being made, these guys used to have worked two jobs while playing in, and now that there's so much money being made.

These guys used to have worked two jobs while playing in the NFL. Now there's so much money being made. And the NFL PA's job was to take care of the retired players in the NFL's eyes, but they haven't done that. So I just sat back. I literally just sat back and waited. You don't have insurance for the rest of your life. You only have it for five years after you retire. So a lot of these guys go into big-time broken, trying to keep up with the finances of their, their mental or their health issues.

I mean, mental issues are also happening as well. And I sat back until the very end. I didn't say anything. I didn't think it was my role to talk. And there was my first time I was invited to one of these. I didn't want to say too much. And at the very end, I said, you guys are currently in the middle of debating a CBA. If the NFL was to say, hey, you know what we're going to do? We're going to put some money aside for the X players. We're going to put money aside so we can provide health care for the players that played before the current season that have built the NFL into what it is. You could probably get a sponsor, I'd assume, to do this.

Insurance companies love sponsoring things. Have them take care of the OGs of the NFL. Everybody wins. companies love sponsoring things have them take care of the ogs of the nfl everybody wins and then if you also put a little bit of money aside to maybe help out some guys that find themselves in financial ruins the nfl could get a good pr spin and look like absolute heroes in the whole thing as opposed to relying on the nflpa who i have heard directly say well hey we got to get our money they can take care of themselves i've heard heard the NFLPA say that to the active rosters. Because every time the NFLPA would come in,

as you're a young player, you don't really ask many questions, right? Because you don't really know how the game goes. You thank the NFLPA. They show you this entire video about how the NFL used to be and how it is now, and thanks to the NFLPA. They're like, rats used to run around on the locker room. Or guys would smoke cigarettes that they had to hand roll themselves like that type of stuff and then the nflpa helped it's like i understand the purpose

of the nflpa then right and i understand the purpose of unions then but now we're at the point where the nflpa could take a much bigger step in taking care of retired players and as you get older in those meetings you start asking like is there any way we can set aside some money for retired players because everybody in here is going to be a retired player at some point like every human in this in this building right now is going to be a retired player and the the answer that you normally get is uh we can take care of that at some point let's worry about the guys that are in the league right now and it's like well that's not great for any of us i mean that's good for you guys i guess so i i pitched that idea to commissioner goodell's I was like, is there any way you guys in a good PR could just take care of the retired players, get an insurance company to give insurance for the rest of their lives?

I mean, I think that would go a long way. And I got a, we'll take that in consideration, which obviously meant go to hell. But this is potentially something that, you know, like could be a bad blood between retired players which don't need in the NFL, which isn't good. But if I know anything about billionaires, whenever money is being taken from them or frauded from them, they are going to bring the hammer extra hard down, which is not good for our friend Clinton Portis,

if he is doing what they're saying he's doing right now. I don't love it. Anything else? Baker Mayfield spoke up about the rumors about Odell Beckham Jr. yesterday. He said, I mean, there's all rumors going around, but I have had my conversations with him, and I know what we talk about, so I trust him wholeheartedly. Well, then that's all that needs to be said.

By the way, who is telling Jay Glazer that when Odell Beckham dapped me up, he said, get me the hell out of here? I think I have a bigger problem with that than anything. Tom. Tom. Brady. You think Odell Beckham,pped me up, he said, get me the hell out of here. I think I have a bigger problem with that than anything. Tom. Tom. Brady. You think Odell Beckham, whenever he handed him that shoe, inside the shoe he had a note? It was on the tongue.

That's probably what happened. Probably whenever he handed him that goatskin hair shoe that says OBJ on it to Tom Brady, there was probably a note inside of it that Tom Brady's kids saw. Because Tom Brady probably took that to the house, just kind of put it on something. You know, it's like, oh, look at this thing. And then his kid pulls out. Dad, did you see this note? Get me the hell out of here.

And he's like, oh, this is hilarious. Takes it into the locker room. Somebody in the locker room then tells Jay Glazer. That is a problem, though, I have. If people are taking private conversations with Odell and taking them to Jay Glazer and other reports. Like that, hey. Kind of a scumbag move. That is a scumbag move. But I guess any time, hey, a rat's a rat, I guess, no matter how you do it. Jay's in L.A., right?

Yeah. Tom spends his off seasons there. They get chummy. Yeah, but Tom hasn't been to L.A. since then. I'm sure they have each other's phone numbers. There's a video of him saying to Jimmy Garoppolo and Garoppolo responding, I know I got you. Okay.

and Garoppolo responding, I know I got you. Okay. We're being joined now by a guy who's a legend in the football world. He used to run through humans at the University of Miami. He was a first-round draft pick for the Buffalo Bills. He played for the Ravens, Broncos, Browns as a pro bowler, Heisman Trophy finalist. Ladies and gentlemen, running back, the running back, y'all, Willis McGahee. Yeah.

Yo, what's up, buddy? Hey, Willis, our boy Clinton Portis is in a bad spot this morning, man. Man, believe it or not, I've just seen it. That's crazy. I literally just saw it. We just read about it, and I am, I, hopefully, obviously, hopefully his name just got mixed up in this whole thing and he didn't do anything but this sounds like a bad situation none of us know

anything about it but i am not happy about clinton portis being mixed up in his friend of the show good guy let's pivot though uh mr willis mcgahey you were a superstar in college a stud in the nfl you did get injured though in a rather large game as a college uh running back and then you decide to leave nowadays it seems like there's a much more prevalent occurrence of college players not playing in bowl games in aspirations of going to the nfl as somebody who's lived it in the worst possible way are you for or against that type of thing you know i have mixed feelings about it man i'm not even gonna sit here and lie about you know, because at the end of the day, you're playing, you're letting your teammates down for one.

Yeah. If you're that marquee guy, you're letting your teammates down, you're letting the fans down at the school, you're letting a lot of people down. But then again, at the end of the day, you're trying to protect your career. You know, who says if you get hurt, you're still going to go first round? Like I did, you know who says if you get hurt you're gonna go you're still gonna go first round like i did you know i had a i had a situation where it was like i thought about it let me get to be clear as up i thought about it like just taking it easy when we were down the coach was like i don't know what's wrong with you guys and i just felt like he was talking to me and i was

like you know what i was like forget it I'm just gonna go whatever happens happens and I unfortunately it happened to me but I still bounce back you know it's a big difference from one to 23 though I can tell you that well my my big thing is in college in the NFL if you find yourself in a good locker room you can have good chemistry they can be your boys but in college you become boys to men i mean not to be cliche but you really do those are your boys so whenever i see these guys who are maybe second third round potential draft picks deciding to sit out in hopes of it i'm always just like couldn't be me man like these are your guys these are last chance to play with them and i understand the business side of it all i think agents kind of get involved in the whole thing

in the business side of it but for me that is a much more difficult decision i think a lot of these guys are making well well at the end of the day it's a different generation you know we were brought up a little different than the kids are brought up now now kids are getting praise coming out of little league football you know like this supposed to be all world this and that and people are just pushing them along praising them all the time they get a high school and they don't pan out to be the players that people expect them to be you know we were younger it was like you didn't get praised you had to get in where you fit in you had to work if you want you want to be that number one guy you had to go to practice every day perform and just

not you know do everything right nowadays you know they can tell you gonna be that number one guy you to be that number one guy, and you're going to be that number one guy when you come in, regardless of who's been there, who's been putting that work in. That is 100% true. Let's talk about a guy, a Florida guy, who's dominated his entire life, and nobody thought he was going to be able to do it when he got to the NFL. And instead, an entire organization changed its offensive philosophy,

brought in Greg Roman, and Lamar Jackson has become must-see television right now they're saying his quad injury is questionable for this game tonight uh against the Jets if you're Lamar Jackson a what is your mindset going into this game against the Jets which have the number one rushing defense and b is there any thought that potentially rest him because the games going forward are much more important than tonight I would would say rest them. You know, like you said, because the games are more important. This is the NFL, you know. The organization has put a lot of money or going to put a lot of money into this kid, and you don't want to see him, you know,

like mess it up against a team that has nothing to lose, which their job is to just beat the Baltimore Ravens. They're not going to the playoffs. You get what I'm saying? So just rest and let them chill, you know, get ready for the playoffs. You know, it's a salty – I'm pretty sure he has a salty feeling from last year from the first playoff game. Yeah.

And you want to get back to that game. You want to get him back to that game and see what he does and see how he performs, see if he has evolved since last year. As a running back, a good running back, not only a great running back in the NFL and in college, do you see a lot of running back tendencies in Lamar Jackson, and is that why he has been so successful? Because he has the mind and body of a running back with this incredible ability to throw as well?

I think Lamar runs better than certain running backs because he has the moves. He has the agility. He's agile, you know what I mean? He has weapons. Running back has their eyes and feet. Lamar has eyes, feet, and hands. And hips.

And hips. With a little speed. People like that come around once every 25 years, man. Look at Vic. Vic was the last one like that before vick who would you say it was uh randall randall cunningham or somebody yeah yeah cunningham by the way yeah so now you got lamar randall cunningham one of the best punters to ever exist too that doesn't get enough credit guy put it like a 99 yard punt or something like that uh let's pivot to the buffalo

bills team that draft you in the first round after you hurt your knee. You spent a lot of years up there. They are back. They seem like they are a team that is all the way back. McDermott has a team that he likes. Now, granted, they could potentially lose this weekend against Ducky Hodges on primetime football. What do you see from the Buffalo Bills, though,

and do you like the way they're headed? Buffalo Bills have a point to prove, man. You know, it's been some rough years, you know. They got a great Hall of Fame back over there in Frank Gore, University of Miami. Hell yeah. You know, he's still ticking away. I mean, they're real hungry right now, man. They're circling the wagon, that's what they say.

Did you enjoy your time up in Buffalo? Buffalo was cool, man, believe it or not. You know, unfortunately, well, I departed on bad ways with the team, but you know, not with the team, with the city, but I mean, at the end of the day, like I tell everybody, I have a daughter out of Buffalo, man, so I have no issue.

What happened? Now, I should probably know this, and it's probably a little bit more research, and bygones have been bygones. What happened? It was a contract year, negotiation time. And I did an interview with a paper. I want to say it was a Toronto start.

I don't know. I forgot. It was one of the papers. And they were like, you know, what do you think about Buffalo playing in Toronto? I'm like, yeah. Shoot. Why not? You know, I'm going to care for, you know come from Miami going to Buffalo

It was like a big difference You know, there was like what you do all that's all I do is stay home play video games. I go to Dave and buses I mean in yeah the reporter of course, I didn't know this and the time You know reporters kind of put their own little tweet their stories yep and they were like oh mcgay he doesn't like buffalo this and that and i was one going out hanging out in buffalo so i didn't understand all i said was we should play some games yeah the team should play games in toronto guess what two years later they start playing games in toronto

running. Guess what? Two years later, they start playing games in Toronto. I mean, I don't have a problem with it, but you know, I got my friends all the time. Darryl Porter played for Buffalo. He said there's only two people in the world that got their jerseys burnt. You and LeBron. I was like, yeah, I did. They burnt my jerseys

at the game, one of the home games after I got traded. See, I would argue that if social media was around back then, you would have brought me to Jersey to play the game, one of the home games, after I got traded. See, I would argue that if social media was around back then, you would have been able to explain yourself. Like, no, no, no, excuse me. I was just asked the question on whether or not I should play in Toronto. That takes out the media narrative and media spin like that. You know what I mean?

Yeah, but, you know, at the end of the day, people take things and run with it, man. Some people are going to believe it. Some people are not. Like, there's still some people out there who know I got a lot of love for Buffalo, but there's still other people like, oh, you a dirtbag,

this and that. You know how people are going to be. Some people are the worst. Some people are the absolute worst. Before we let you go, and I can't thank you enough for taking time today, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl, and do you think the Tom Brady led offense of that Patriots are ever going to be able to turn around?

Listen, man, I'm a Baltimore guy. You know, I retire the Ravens. I love to see Ravens there. But that doggone Tom Brady and Belichick is just some special come playoff time. I don't know what they got going on. Hey, Baltimore is going to be burning your jersey too. No, no, no. I don't know what they got going on. Hey, Baltimore's going to be burning your jersey too. I just said the Patriots are special. I don't know what they got going on, but they always find a way.

Like I said in the beginning, I would like Baltimore to get there, but you still can't count out Belichick and Brady. Agreed. What do you think about the Niners and the NFC? The Niners, I believe it's going to be out of the Niners and Seattle. Okay. Hey, Russell Wilson, did you hear him mic'd up, and have you ever played with somebody that was as positive as him on the field?

Like the things he was saying was like out of a movie almost. I've never heard a human in real life talk the way he talked on monday night football the other night when he's mic'd up i don't think nobody gets more positive than tim tebow talking bro i mean the guy does a curse you know instead of him saying that dropping the f word he says freaking you know things like that i mean he's a positive guy i think they both have great characteristics in leading teams, talking, inspiring. It's kind of hard to say, man. All right.

Well, hey, Mr. Willis McGahee, we're all pulling for our guy, Clinton Portis. Shout out, Frank Gore. And thank you to you for having some time for us today. I can't thank you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, two-time pro bowler, Willis McGahee. Thank you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you, man, for having me on the show.

Yeah, no problem. Appreciate you. Cheers, dude. Howdy doody, little friends. Ravens have been punting a lot tonight. I mean, I like a good punt, but not whenever you bet the over and the Ravens. Let's get things going. Good to see you, Sam Cook.

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Absolutely. I'm still a big fan, but I saw this stat. So in the first quarter and third quarter of each game, he has an excellent quarterback rating. First quarter, 118.9. Third quarter, 105. In the second and fourth quarter, second quarter, 84.2. Fourth quarter, 75.5.

So the criticism is first and third quarter, he's running basically off the script. And then as the game progresses beyond scripted aspects of the offense he suffers is this a fair critique okay so who's that on is that on the coaching staff that can't adjust from the script so the scripted plays now granted the scripted plays are like the plays that your quarterback's most comfortable with the scripted plays are also to get a picture of how the defense is going to handle the different formations or schemes that you're thinking about running so a lot of plays i don't want to say they're not expecting

them to not work but or to work but there's a lot of plays they're putting out there that they don't really care if it works in the script because they just want to see how the defense is going to adjust to it okay so if we move motion is running back out of the backfield and then we run it to the left how did they cover that running back maybe we can utilize this later with a little dump off a little wheel route little screen to the right things along that nature so if if he's not doing well in the second quarter in the fourth quarter in my eyes frank reich has been a noted good play caller frank reich has been a guy who's done very well with quarterback i think that's almost a more damning stat on him than it is on jacoby right now is jacoby missing throws in the second quarter and fourth quarter

that he isn't missing in the first and third quarters? Possibly. But this feels as if this is a schematic thing more so than a Jacoby thing. I could be wrong, but in my eyes, that's more damning for the offense as a whole as opposed to Jacoby Brissett as a singular person. Now, the Colts are going to have to make a decision here about Jacoby. I think he's definitely going to get another year. I think he's going to get an entire offseason being the starter, which he has never gotten, by the way. In his entire career, he has never had an entire

offseason being the guy. He's never had an entire offseason in the weight room, everybody knowing he's the guy. In the meetings, everybody knowing he's the guy. Even in the cafeteria, knowing that you're the guy is just a different world, right? What you say matters more. Your ideas and your opinions on concepts mean more. The whole team is basically shaped around you. This is Jacoby's first opportunity to have an offseason for that. I'll be excited to see how he does next year because at the beginning of this year, he looked unstoppable.

Then he had that knee injury in pittsburgh which nobody could have guessed cam hayward picked up quentin nelson dumped him on his knee and everything has kind of changed since then i'm excited to see what jacoby does next year and he's at a pretty good rate for starting quarterback as opposed to being paid this asinine amount of money which a lot of starting quarterbacks have to have they have to put the team around but for me that's more damning on the scheme and the strategy of the offense as opposed to jacoby as someone who has to deal with this all the time i'm hearing a lot of things like second quarter fourth quarter second half of the season maybe he's just getting tuckered out yeah maybe he's tired huh maybe he gets tired after first quarter there isn't a long enough

break in between the quarters need a little bit longer we need more dogs humping each other attention maybe he's just tired maybe he gets a little tired. Because it is his first full starting season, right? And he didn't know until, what, 10 days before the season started he was going to be a starter. That's like whenever I went in the year we ended up eventually going 2-14, I show up at training camp,

and I had a great offseason. I mean, a great offseason. And I get a text message from the sheriff saying, hey, come down and see me. I'm down in the training room. And I hadn't seen him for like a month or two. And I assumed he just wanted to hear some stories, you know, vicariously live through me what I just did.

And I walk in and he just has all these wires coming off of him. And I'm like, oh, my God, what the hell is going on? And then one of my good friends who's the head physical therapist at the Colts looks at me and goes, and I have like big eyes. He goes, oh, you didn't expect to see this, huh? And I was like, what the hell is going on? He goes, oh, hey, pal, I got to do this for like another 30 minutes you do anything cool this offseason i was like well it appears as if i didn't train hard enough it appears as if we're gonna be punting a

lot more than i expected and that was whenever i was kind of told like hey he has a little bit of a neck issue there might be a there's a spinal fusion thing that's happening and all this stuff and then lo and behold we signed carrie collins out of retirement out of a hunting i think he was in a deer stand whenever we hired him he didn't want to come back and then curtis painter and orlovsky we go to in 14 but that was one of those things where if i knew we were probably going to break a record for punting i probably would have done a little bit more in the off season i was coming into the season ready to skip right back into the afc championship or the super bowl knowing that we have the greatest of all time. And then whammy, I'm summoned down there basically from a flip phone text message.

And I see these wires coming out. I'm like, damn, I'm going to go start doing some cardio. It looks like we are going to be punting a lot this year. Turns out we did. Almost broke the record for most punts in the season. I was not ready for it. Jacoby in the entire offseason being a starter, he'll probably treat it a little bit differently. And I not ready for it. Jacoby, in the entire offseason, being a starter, he'll probably treat it a little bit differently.

And I'm happy for him. I'm excited to see the Colts. But that is a very interesting stat right there. I think the whole organization is going to have to look at that. And I like your explanation much better than Diggs'. Let's go with play calling and a young wide receiver call. And he could be tired. I mean, it's something that could happen.

And also, when T.Y. ty is not in it's a whole different ball game so i'm assuming they're going to get another weapon they're going to have to get another weapon aside from ty so ty isn't just eating double and triple teams which is what ty has had to do because he's the only weapon i assume they'll bring in somebody else also i'm excited to watch what chris ballard does with the roster in terms of preparation though like they say that quarterbacks prepare the same way no matter what but there's no way that he was preparing to be the starting quarterback going into this season in the offseason, right? So they were saying that all OTAs he was getting the one snaps.

In all training camp he was getting the one snaps. So I think just mentally it's a lot different than physically. I think with Andrew he wasn't taking a lot of reps anyways because of different injuries that they were skating around. They were like, it was his ankle I think at one point. It was his knee at one point. Todd, am I right with that? I think it was like they said it was ankle i think at one point it was his knee at one point todd am i right with that i think it was like they said it was his ankle he wasn't practicing then his knee at one point it was this like he didn't practice at all during otas and the local news was just like andrew sits out again today but don't worry

culture like the messaging was always like andrew hasn't practiced yet but don't worry and then training camp started happening like andrew is resting today but don't worry and then whammy that adam schefter tweet comes out of nowhere so jacoby took a lot of one reps because luck wasn't practicing but mentally knowing you're the guy it's just a whole different ball game i mean there are humans out there you expect oh he gets paid a lot of money to do his job it's a kid's game all that stuff yeah but when you know you're the ceo of an operation you're going to act a lot differently than the regional manager will that's just a that's just a very easy way to look at it and i would assume now with head coaches too right like when these head coaches get these jobs it's a whole different ball game now no longer are you just a coordinator where

you only have to worry about your side of the ball now you got to answer a lot of dumb questions about a lot of things it's a whole different world whenever you become the guy in different positions i would assume in real life as well i have a stat here for you i'm excited for hey hey tony stats i mean this is before rookie contracts and everything like that but the colts again they have 107 million in cap space next year and chris ballard by the way has done good with the money he's paid people that have done a lot for the colts jack doylele just signed a big deal. He paid – Jacoby Brissett made him the guy. T.Y. Hilton, I assume, is going to get paid again soon. They need to bring in some weapons on the offensive side of the ball.

And Chris Bauer lives and dies with the trenches. Loves it. I assume they'll invest in that. But the AFC South is becoming a team that people are really going to have to start reckoning, especially if Tannehill gets an average deal down in Tennessee. You got Tannehill, a revamped, revitalized, good Tannehill, as opposed to the dolphin Tannehill, where the offensive line coach was running through more Colombian Bam Bam than what's-his-face, the narco guy, Escobar.

Yeah, Escobar. So Tannehill is Deshaun Watson. I mean, if Gardner Minshew continues to get better, which is hilarious to think about, the AFC South is going to be a problem. And Colts got to keep getting better, man. You think T.Y. still has some time left? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

He came out this week and said he wants to play again this year. He's not giving up on his team. Yeah. T.Y. doesn't get hit much. The only thing that ever happens is he gets like a pull or a bruise or something like that. Nagging injury. Yeah, but't get hit much. The only thing that ever happens is he gets a pull or a bruise or something like that. Nagging injury. Yeah, but he's a Ferrari.

That guy is very fast. He's not as big as everybody else, so he's figured out ways to not get hit. And he's just a smart football player as well. High football IQ. Learned a lot from Reggie Wayne. Knows how to find holes. He's a quarterback's best friend. But when he gets hurt, the entire team suffers from it.

That's why you need another weapon need another weapon for sure what did roger goodell say in his press conference at the owners meetings i'm excited to hear it anthony you know i do know okay he started off they say he sees no momentum in changing the playoff seating because the Eagles and Cowboys stink. By the way, the only change that I would like to see potentially in the playoffs is an asterisk, a clause, that if you have a losing record, you forfeit your automatic bid for the playoffs to the next highest conference team.

I like that. I don't think that's too crazy. I think if your division can't find a team that can have a winning record, you don't deserve a shot. That's just the way it should go. Give it to somebody else, especially in this NFC where there's a lot of hot teams right now. The fact that one of them are going to have to sit out

because of the NFC least is, in my eyes, a potential conversation starter. But I think the NFL playoffs are perfect. I would like it to be known that I think the NFLfl playoffs are perfect and this does not happen on a regular occasion where a team with a losing record gets in like this it's only happened every once in a while but not a bad thing to put a little you know little claws in a clause yeah to the clause unless you have a losing record and you still are divisional champs you forfeit your right for the bid to somebody else that has tried and played better than you have this particular season yeah because the rams and vikings with a much better record or have to get one of those teams we're gonna have to sit out and that's a shame it's a shame

that's a shame right come off the tour dog roger also said the league has moved on after kaepernick chose not to take an incredible opportunity by the way normally the world is against roger goodell opportunity. By the way, normally the world is against Roger Goodell. I think with the way that entire thing panned out, a lot of people who were even on Colin Kaepernick's side, like I was on Kaepernick's side, by the way, a lot of people have come after me on the internet from both races, whites and African-American folks,

saying that I was dumb for taking my positioning, which has always been. I very much understand what he was kneeling for i appreciate the fact that he generated a conversation that has potentially made our country a better place in a more understanding place and although the reason for the protest was definitely confused on both sides of the aisle here one was fighting for injustice one thought it was completely against the military which you could see how both sides could potentially run with it they turned their backs on each other decided not to talk to each other and i who have been in an nfl locker room and around a lot more uh these situations i think

i a little bit more understanding like yeah i understand that these guys feel a duty to give back to their community which is what colin kaepernick was doing and a lot of guys that took a knee throughout the whole thing it just got misconstrued i was on kaepernick's side for a long time I thought it killed ratings I don't think a lot of people expected or appreciate I think it very much turned people off from the NFL but I think it in the end made our world a better place and for one day one day we all wish by the way Jay-Z wishes this who set this up I wish this I think a people. Just for one day, he played by the NFL's rules. And if they didn't sign him, I think even more people would have been on his side. Instead, he made it a distraction.

He made it a show, a cluster. And ain't nobody going to want to sign him now. And honestly, you can't blame him at this point. I think there were some teams that were thinking about signing him. And then what happened happened. And now it's just like yep roger goodell can say things like this and everybody's like yeah hey we hey we feel you man we agree completely and by the way if i'm calling kaepernick i can understand how you don't trust the nfl for what has happened

but for one day just one day if he would have just played their game this could be a completely different story could have came full circle but instead here we are he's probably never gonna play in the nfl. It's a shame. I don't know. I don't know if he's good or not. I have no idea if he's good or not. I think there's teams that legitimately wanted to sign him, though, that would have appreciated a workout without the cameras and without the things.

They could talk to him, ask him questions and all that stuff. But instead, he made it about him and his team and whatever. Roger Goodell's done with it, by the way. Oh, yeah. He's done with it, by the way. Oh, yeah. He's done with it. Ship has sailed. I do not want to hear any more questions. Mr. Z, Hova, made me do that workout,

and he made us look like fools, so I'm done with it completely, is what Roger Goodell said. In regards to the CBA, Rog isn't sure how far apart the owners and players are. I don't know where we'll be. I know we've committed to work hard and try to keep the issues at the table and try to see if we can reach an agreement all this is is pr now a couple weeks

ago they were like oh we're almost near being finished that's either the nfl saying we're almost near finished to put pressure on the nflpa not to come out and say no we're not because in the nflpa looks like a bunch of spoiled brats or it's the nflpa putting that out to make the nfl look bad just know that during these CBA negotiations, it is 1,000% a PR spin in an attempt to get leverage over the other person. That's just the way it goes. They want it to be billionaires versus millionaires, but it's not that.

Remember that. It's everyday guys who've worked their ass off to get into a league trying to leverage against 32, sorry, 30 billionaires, including the guy at the Raiders and then the Packers negotiating. It's going to be a crazy scene. The fact that they were thinking about finishing early is crazy. Now, on the casting couch, the chatting couch, is a man from Boston who steals all of our snacks in our office.

Oh, come on. Connor Campbell. How's it going, Connor? It's going well. Actually, I connor it's going well actually i'm sure it's going you know it's funny you say that i could go for a snack maybe here too you know yeah so we have to buy snacks obviously because we're a fully running office here we got like 12 people that work here on a daily basis you know we try to keep it a little bit upbeat try to keep some snacks in here every single time ty zito fox and I would get back to the office, it would be a long day.

There would be no snacks left in the office. And then I'd go through our finances, and we'd be dumping money into snacks every single week. So I'm like, all right. So we're just losing money at some point. And when I get here and I'm starving, there's nothing left. Got a SimpliSafe camera, obviously, as everybody should. Connor was just emptying out the drawers,

dumping it in the bags and taking it to that hellhole of a house, the pub. Oh, no, no, no. Here's to, here's to. I don't want the snacks to go bad too. I mean, I'm kind of looking out for you guys. That's right. They all have preservatives in them.

I mean, it's next level. Connor, Connor's about to be in the outhouse pretty quick. DJ Nick Moraldo is on the ones and twos. How's it going, Frankie boy? Take it easy. Take it easy. This is a serious thing.

We're dumping so much money into these snacks. I know. I get yelled at by Phil. CFO Phil yells at me every time. Well, it's something that, you know, try to be a good company. Like, the least we could do is get some snacks for the guys that are in here working, grinding away. Very nice. In terms of you guys, you know? Very nice of you guys.

Yeah, it is, Connor. We'll move forward and talk about sports, but just know that there's some sort of punishment coming at some point. You know what? I'll bring some snacks in tomorrow for you guys. Oh, back in! I got a couple boxes of cheese that you guys are going to love. All right, all right.

I hope you've had an amazing week, which is going to propel you into an impeccable weekend. Sam Donald just got sacked, had a fumble. Baltimore Ravens ball going in, scored. Probably going to get up 21 right here. All right. Anyways, it's good for my bet. Great for my bet.

Not great for Jets fans. I'm not sure how many are left. Good for the Ravens. Good for Lamar Jackson. It's are left. Good for the Ravens. Good for Lamar Jackson. It's been a wild week for us, man. It's been a wild week. A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

I did a Cheez-It launch. Then I had to do 15 interviews back to back to back to back to back to back. The Patriots videotaped scandal that happened, then got to bunks pretty quickly. Roger Goodell this. I mean, it's been a wild week in the sports world. And I think your weekend is going to be awesome. I honestly do believe that. I think we can make it a little bit better though, because everybody loves the feeling of winning, especially the feeling of winning the holidays. If you're giving everybody's Bombas socks this holiday, you deserve a spot in the Holiday Gifting Hall of Fame. Did you know that socks are the number one most requested item in homeless shelters? Bombas socks were created

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to provide you content. Now that the schedule slowed down, I'm looking to make bigger things, bigger interviews, bigger conversations for this podcast. I think I might take it live in front of some theaters with some interviews, kind of like that Dave Letterman, my next guest thing is. I want to kind of get into that. I want to provide magical content for you people. My schedule hasn't allowed for, you know, I mean, I think we've crushed it, obviously, but I think we could definitely get you some incredible shit and look for that in the next couple months.

That's what I'm going for. One job done, ended. get you some incredible shit and look for that in the next couple months that's what i'm going for one job then ended one job dead i mean speak english dude i'm tired one job ended though thursday night football and now it's time to pick up something else and i think building this podcast to make it magical is what i'm going to do. So I appreciate you for listening and know that we're only going to get bigger and better. And from all of us at PMI, we can't thank you enough. Ty Schmidt, play some independent music. For those interested, this is Buddha by Context. That's good. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.