The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1430 - Watt Wednesday, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 6 of the NFL season as AQ gives his five best offensive lines of the week and biggest takeaway’s, and Darius Butler highlights the best DB play of the week, and Tone gives his midseason college football playoff graphic, they recap last night's NLCS game that saw the Dodgers take a commanding 2-0 lead over the Brewers. Joining the progrum to chat about about his thoughts of a great weekend of football, PFF player grades, and previews some of next weeks games. Later, ESPN legend, College GameDay stalwart, co-host of SVPod, Stanford Steve joins the show to preview this weekend's massive college football slate. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humberlobo, the Thunderdum. On this watch Wednesday, October 15th, 2025. This program begins now. Football! It's magical, and we're obviously going to get a chance to chat about it today for the next few hours, and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do that for a living. You're the greatest people on Earth. We can't thank you enough.

And hopefully today we give you at least a reason to say I spent some time with the boys over there in the Thunderdome. We got some great sags today. Oh, yeah. A lot of good sags today, okay? We got, you know, that seg that really makes you feel tough and gritty? We're going into trenches with 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion player coach for the Tampa Buccaneers. AQ Shepley. That's up, boys, huge.

Ken what's going to trenches, AQ? Who are the top five performing offensive lines coming out of week six? Who are the teams that have the big guys that are moving at a good pace? Who are the big guys that could maybe lead their team to another Super Bowl, just like the offensive line in the Philadelphia Eagles did last year? Who has the best offensive line in the league? Are they the best team in the league? Because that's what, you know, we've learned from last year's study is,

if you have the best offensive line in the league, you win the Super Bowl. That's modern football. You know, it used to be a punchman and mock around and pound rugby-style football. We grew up on, I'm 38 years old, especially in the city of Pittsburgh. We all are a ground and pound back. And, you know, steel curtain comes around. You think about that old school day. Then there was an innovation in offensive football where somebody was like,

Holy shit. I believe his name was Hal Mummy, actually. He said, we got everybody in here running faces into each other. We need to separate everybody and make them smaller and just make everybody fast. Then it started kind of spreading everything out. Football started becoming a fast man sport. Football started becoming less 250, 245 pound linebacker, more 225, 215 pound linebacker because they've got to go sideline to sideline. You see, and that captivated football, that captivated fantasy football, that changed rules of games, you started seeing tight ends become more and more dominant because the bodies were getting smaller in the middle of the field. Wow, they were changing rules so that there'd be more offensive explosion because we want to see

points. But now it feels like with all the small bodies on the defense, some offensive geniuses around the league. You say, it's time to punch these little dudes in the mouth. Hell yeah. And ground and pound football is coming back with some wrinkles of the explosive football that we love from yesterday. So football is in a great spot, but it feels like the trenches are more important than they've ever been in the outcome of games, and no offense can really go without a great offensive line. So we learn every single week about the top five from Akew Shipley. And this is the definitive top five. This is no bullshit. Nobody's arguing. This is what is. Ain't they right, AQ? That's what you're hearing from the offensive line

community, I'm sure. Absolutely. They love it. And listen, I just go by the tape. I just go by the tape. He's pretty biased, too. If he'll get a text from some team or a player, I love what you're doing in trenches. Oh, maybe give them a shot. Thanks. You guys were good last week. Yeah, you guys there. Five. I mean, it's all going to be in there. Check these DMs real quick. Yep. Rators are in it this week. That can't be what this becomes.

This is a very vital piece of information whenever we're gambling on games. Nine-year NFL vet, Territish J. Butler is here. Everything D.B., good, D, bad, D, obviously cannot wait to watch. I didn't pay attention enough to the defenses. And I think that's kind of a common issue whenever football fans watch games is we're following the ball. Let's go to the next one. Hi, handoff. Where to go is in the ball?

Oh, he's out there. We're following the ball. We don't really know what the hell's going on the other side. You breaking them down for us has been a true gift to football brains and lovers, I think, personally. Today, do we have any, like, embarrassing defense that we're going to display? How many good deeds do we have? And how many of that bad, limp-ass, bad-a-d-d-dee do we have? We got four, four good d, and two bad deeds.

You always got to have two. But, you know, you got to take your medicine, see what happened. You know, we all did it in the film room, and then you go move forward. You learn from it. How are defenses performing this year? Oh, it's hard to say. It's kind of a week-to-week, just like with the matchup. It's week-to-week lead.

Sometimes it's damn near 30 interception. Sometimes it's 15. You have forced fumbles. You have all the type of different things that you can grade them by. But once I put it grade out, I'm not, once I put a grade out and watch the tape, I move on. I don't go back and, you know. Yeah, see, this is a little slight. shot from nine-year NFL vet right there to certain maybe grading systems out there.

And that leads right into what I would like to talk about today because, boy, it is a hot topic. Is it not to talk to table at Boss O'Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Stats from one particular company are coming under fire rate. Oh, man. Ty, now there's been a select community that has been anti-PFF for a very long time. Okay, very vocal. Since the beginning of PFF, there's been people that say, nope, hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. Neat Cid denominator, hate it, hate it, okay?

stats kind of taking over football is something that a lot of people hate. PFF became like the commercial face of stats taking over football because Collinsworth's, yeah, they're the Jordan. Yeah, they're the Jordan brand of stats. The authority. Oh, you're saying the authority? Yeah. Okay, I would say also the Jordan brand.

I think PFF kind of became the Jordan and the authority brand of like stats commercial companies. Chris Collinsworth tying obviously, and I assume it's a negotiated deal with NBC that they will be used during Sunday Night Football, which is obviously the most watch game every single week. So these PFF things become like the authority on the stats world. And there's been people that have hated that since very, very beginning. Sure.

A lot of ex-players and current players hate these things. Now, this isn't the first time or first era of players hating ranking systems. I have been very open about my feelings with the Madden folks. Sure. I debuted on that particular game. And although I was not a Madden player, everybody around me were Madden players. And they couldn't wait to punt with me their first time. And then all I heard from everybody is how ass I was as a punter in Madden and in life.

That's how people felt. And I said, I never met a Madden guy. Is this guy ever watched me kick? Has this guy ever watched me lift? My strength was like 14. I was watching myself just get my ass beat by people on this. You know, I try to throw a football, strength, arm strength went to nothing. I'm like, these bad people have never seen me throw a football.

I've been all-time quarterback in my neighborhood since I'm 8 years old because I can go telephone pole to telephone pole. I'm pump pass and kick. World champion. I can spin this thing. You got my arm strength in 13. What the fuck do you know? Madden people make me look bad to my family. That's just my story.

him for that's just my story i'm a punter low-level punter think about all the other stories in which these pff grades have changed ways people's lives have gone madden has gone let alone playing with yourself yeah getting bombed on by 14-year-old in headset right on you bomb ass trash ass okay in real life though you literally just lock this person down so the rating and the number next to somebody okay always been a talking point whenever one becomes the authority over others and one becomes like a bible or like a most definite factoid for people there is always going to be detractors and ex players have been attacking and coaches have been attacking spec and all the defense coordinator for the chiefs i think two weeks ago came out and said i know pf is going to say and then buried it yeah chris long

super bowl champion hit a dinger of a uh i'll say a pff take on his most recent podcast yet Mahomes, quarterback 13 or 32 off my television screen. We're talking about legislation, what our kids shouldn't see at school, what they shouldn't be learning about. Like, should we have political ads on television? I want the PFF scores off the TV as bad as I want political ads off the television because, like, God forbid there's somebody watching the game who doesn't know who fucking Patrick Mahomes is. They're going to be badly misguided, brother. 13th best quarterback in the league?

I mean, if I was Nandi, and maybe he earned it this year, but I would fucking sue. I'd be in Chris Collinsworth's backyard, dude. You know what I'm saying? I'd be at the window. Like, what the fuck? You can't do that, dude. You can't do that? That's at the very beginning, too.

Like, at the very beginning, they're script. Hey, let's introduce you to these characters. Okay, here's Nandi. 119 judged. He's the worst. Okay, and it's not like golf. You don't want to be the lowest. Okay, this is, he's by far the worst.

Patchman's, middle of the pack. Okay, just kind of middle of the pack here and go around. Then there's people that somehow, there's, like more than 32 starters, and they'll somehow put you in there and it'll be like, ranked 27th out of 33 or something like that, or 33rd out of 30. It's like you're really bearing these people on things that you might not know all the information. And I think that is why players hate it so bad. And coaches say, hey, I'm actually the one that told this one player on this one particular look

to leave his person and go. It was our decision to do that strategy. You know, we're trying to mix it up a little bit. You can't imagine PFF trying to judge Troy Paul Malu. Yeah. Troy Paul Molo had no rules. He's everywhere all the time. So PFF would just have to say, well, he's actually cover three here. So he's supposed to get this deep third. And he left his deep third. So that's actually a downfall. He does get the sack where he jumps over an offensive alignment. But his actual job under play was to be deep third. So he kind of, they could have got bombed on if he didn't jump up. It's like those types of conversations being able to exist just completely defeat your argument that your rankings are definitive. and the fact that it gets showed in the biggest game, I like the players and everybody's starting to kind of stick up for it

and there's always been a little anti-PFF out there. Oh yeah. There's always been a little, and I was a PFF punter of the decade. That's right. Congratulations. And we celebrated that. I still got the sweatshirt. They sent us hoodies. Yeah. I put the hoodie on. I was pumped about it. Now, I would argue in PFF's case,

punting is probably a pretty straightforward one on who's doing good, who's not doing good. So let's make sure we take PFF serious whenever it comes to punting because that benefits me. Now, not benefiting anybody else in this particular world. Then there's situations that brew like, you know, T.J. Watt and Miles Garrett this weekend. So obviously T.J. Watt, Miles Garrett, defensive MVP battles kick. AFC North. There is real tension here between the two of them on who's the goat.

Not only in the NFL, but just the AFC North. And Cleveland and Pittsburgh, obviously historic robbery of cities and towns. And this is AFC North football, getting to the quarterback, big tough guys that lead their team. One guy sets the market for the other guy. One guy sets the pace for the other guy. to have been battling in PFF, and he's seemingly always kind of lean towards Miles Garrett. Certainly. Okay? T.J. Watt has a lot of stats, okay, which we thought they loved with stats.

That would indicate that T.J. Ward is on a historic run, and we should maybe give this guy a little bit more credit. But what PFF says is we're not just looking at stats, even though we are stats people. We're looking at the game. We're not looking at the outcome of the play. We're looking at what's actually happening on the field. You guys watch highlights. We watch film. Here's PFF explaining how Miles Garrett obviously lost. to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, who seemingly statistically wise had much less of a performance than T.J. Watt did,

but still outperformed T.J. Watt, and then they dropped the points later after second Eval. But here's PFF guy on the right describing everything about how they got to that score. And they saw that Miles Garrett's grade was ahead of T.J. Watt, and they weren't very happy about it, and they wondered how Miles Garrett was able to get that high of a grade while only having one pressure. Those are the preliminary grades,

and we go over the grades, we comb over it, we have our rechecks and everything. And so those are the final grades that we showed you right there. But I do want to say, like, Garrett still had a really good game in this game. His pastor's win percentage was still pretty dang high. He was still a force to be reckoned within this game. The fact of the matter is, the Steelers had a fantastic game plan for him. They constantly had different looks with tight ends being able to be on his side of the line

of scrimmage and chip him and all that kinds of stuff. The offensive line, I thought, played really well in mitigating exactly where Miles Garrett could go and how he could impact the game, if they were running the football, a lot of times they weren't running it at Miles Garrett. They were making him get beyond a chip or beyond the offensive tackle just to chase the running back from behind and a lot of times he couldn't do it. And to be honest with you, part of this great Aaron Rogers game, which I'm going to get to more in a second. Yes, please. Rogers is the perfect quarterback to mitigate a guy like that. Taking my ears out. He's getting the ball out of his hands quickly. He's not dumb. He knows Miles Garrett is to his

blindside, and he knows how to just get around that. And so I thought it was an excellent job from the Pittsburgh Steelers game planning around Miles Garrett to make him a non-factor in this game. That didn't mean that Miles Garrett did not have a good game. I thought he was a presence. He was impactful. He was still winning a lot of his assignments. But by the time he was able to win versus a tight end and versus an offensive tackle, that ball's gone. And Aaron Rogers knew that. And so it was just a hat tip to what the Steelers were able to do, I think from a philosophical standpoint going into this game to neutralize a great talent like Miles Garrett. So hats off to what Pittsburgh was able to do.

PFF guy on the right says this was actually a compliment to the Pittsburgh Steelers because of how good of a game Miles Garrett had and he didn't have much of an impact. Now, if that's going to be the story for all of your rankings, in your ratings, that needs to be explained on the PFF rankings on Sunday Night Football. Hey, these are actually rankings off of thinking how good of another team actually did against how you actually did for your assignment. Now, what is your assignment? We're kind of guessing here. We think that your assignment is to do this on every single play.

I appreciate the fact that he said, Miles Garrett had a good game. Pittsburgh Steelers just outsched outschemed this guy. Now, there's swats and jumps in other ways you can affect if you're not getting home because of how quick it is, and there's different ways to affect the game. And getting to the quarterback is a part of it. Stopping the run is obviously a part of it. But it's like all these little qualifiers that they have, I don't think the general public knows.

So whenever you're putting the ranking system up, I think maybe we should put a follow-up graphic that also explains everything he just said there. KPF, F, got on the right, I think he nailed it. It does make sense with what he said whenever you hear him say how he said it. It just doesn't make sense that you guys are given actual rankings without everybody understanding it.

It's a compliment to the offense as opposed to a slight against T.J. W. Yeah, I mean, it's just tough. Whenever you put a grade, like you said, whenever you put a grade on something is tough. The only people that can truly grade it are like the coaches and the players, like position coaches, coordinators, because they know exactly what's going into it.

And I kind of understood what he was saying. It's kind of like a Revis type guy. If he just locks down one side of the feeling, you can say, oh, he didn't have any PbUs or any tackled or any interceptions. He didn't impact, oh, this guy had one interception, and you could say, okay, this guy impacted the game more. But it's, yeah, it kind of put my mind into pretzels as well. I mean, it's great job.

Keep doing the thing. PFF. I think it is a good tool. I think it is a good tool. You could definitely use it along with watching the tape and watching the games and doing shit like this. But it's a time and the place for Sunday night football. I understand the business relationship there with Chris Collinsworth. But yeah, you can't have.

I agree with Chris Long with his sediment. Take it off my screen. That was awesome. Chris Long really laid it out perfectly. God forbid somebody's never seen the game before. Patrick Mahomes, this is the best player. This is our guy right now. Hey, the guy who eats ketchup in the middle of Kansas City.

seemingly nice to everybody. Everybody, he's a hardworking guy. And oh, yeah, he's already in the goat conversation. He's not even 30 years old. Let's try to make him look good at the beginning of our biggest show every single weekend. Instead, somebody's seeing that he's just middle of the pack in the NFL. That's a funny way for Chris Long. Chris Long saw that and was just disgusting.

He's mug. I would like to know what they did Chris Long. I assume there is a deep CDD with Chris Long story of a ranking or somebody that's very close to him ranking. Yeah, I mean, he comes from a football. family, obviously, the long football dynasty, but I appreciate that everybody's kind of spinning against it right now. Well, and I think a big issue, like, whether people

wanted, like, stats is such a big part of, like, the NFL and people who aren't in the NFL that want to talk about it now that maybe it wasn't 10 years ago, but think of, like, all how this affects, like, legacies. Like, we were talking about, you know, an agent, or, like, a team bringing this up in,

you know, like, in negotiation. It's like, well, you know, PFF has you as the 119th of 119th, uh, tackle. But in terms of like MVP votes and stuff like that, like there are a lot of people out there who are very like analytics driven. And, you know, the NFL is kind of already co-signed on this stuff. It's on Sunday night football. So like there are definitely people who look at this stuff and it's like, okay, well, you know, defensive player of the year. Like, look how many weeks, you know, Miles Garrett had a 92 rating or higher. So it's like whether you like it or not,

like this stuff is absolutely also influencing all pro votes. Yeah, like contracts, negotiations, everything, legacies, life, day-to-day life for people. I mean, it does affect a lot of things. Once again, for the punting rankings, I think they're pretty spot-on, just if I had a guess.

They watch every step. It used to be, I thought the angle was, too. It used to be scouts, like old scouts watching film that didn't want to wait to either become general managers. They found something that was good for them in a media lane, which was like how you would evaluate and how you would judge tape and score tape and things like that.

It's like PFF guy on the right there. Was he, was he, because the guy on the left, I don't think I knew him either. Is it Trevor, Sycamore? Yeah. Okay, was he a scout or something? I'm not sure. I don't believe so. Okay, so that used to be the thing, right?

BFF had old scouts that would come in there. I think that was like the big selling point. So I think for a lot of football fans, NFL fans, it's like, hey, these are the actual people that were doing the judging of things. So if this is how this is going to go, this is how it's going to go. And AJ Hawk has texted us, you don't win assignments in football. That's what he just said. So he's picking apart that particular answer,

but that's always going to happen with stats people and football people. AQ, offensive line. I couldn't even imagine what a winning assignment looks like and what a losing assignment looks like. And I would assume PFF had you as a loser a lot, if I had to guess? Surprisingly, they actually had me winning quite often. Okay. Wow.

Okay, so they're pretty good at Judge and Centers. I was a technique guy, so it was kind of easy. But to go to your point, if anybody's using that as a tool while they're watching film, they're a dip shit. I don't know what else to say about that. Here's what I will say, too. But there's a lot of those people. There is a lot of those people.

And then coaches also use this to justify their job. I'm telling you, I've seen it. What a coach will do, we'll come in after the game and he'll be like, hey, the tackle's just getting, I mean, he's getting run around all game. He's giving up pressures, giving up sacks. And then they'll be like, hey, this is how I can justify my job. Well, PFF had him at an 85 pass protection rate. See, that's what we're talking about. It's infiltrated.

But that's where you go using it. So like, say like, hey, I want to go and watch all the, it was like we used to cutups, cover three, single high, or match zones or split safety fire zones. And I could just watch that. Like, that'll help me. Well, I don't have to go and watch every plat. Hey, I just watch these two zones. I just watch simulated pressure.

I just watch that. And that can help you from that standpoint or like a quarterback. Where is his heat map? Where does he like to throw the ball? Does he like between the seams? Does he stay away from the middle of the field? Is it like the sideline? So, like, it can help you kind of cut down the time part of it,

but you got to still be able to watch the film. And the stuff we do, like the breakdown stuff, well, it's probably a little different with, line but as far as secondaries like it's only so many coverages and based off you know my experience okay it's a cover for they're trying to do it here you say that every time you break my yeah but I can't say 1,000 unless you know I shoot a text or I call somebody hey and you have that conversation and you know you go back and forth but things change so much and even the coverages that we know or the past protections that you know inside and out can be massaged

between fucking series so it's always moving parts so whenever you whenever anyone can get on TV and say, this is what it is without a shot of a doubt, blah, blah, blah, 99% of the time, it's probably wrong. Well, the duo play that we talk about, I talk about it all the time. It's double team, double team, double team. Well, if I don't have a double team on the backside, and I have a backside noseguard, but the play's being run to the right, I want to lose

with this guy getting up the field away from the play. But PFF might look at that and say, oh, he got beat, his guy's five yards in the back field. Well, good. I took him out of the play. I want to ride him five yards up the field, right? Yeah. So that's where, like, the ex-scouts being in there would allegedly make up for that.

And I don't know if that's still the thing. I don't think it is. And even with them in there, like, for quarters, for example, if we play quarters, we say, all right, we're going to trap this one. Like third and eight, they like to run out from number two and over the top. So, hey, I'm going to trap two. So I'm going to jump two. If you're a PFF, you just watch me jump to when I drop number one.

But my safety is not on the same page. He doesn't get over top of number one. That's a blown assignment for the quarterback. When in reality, they go to the sideline, the D.B coach, you go be like, hey, what happened? This is the conversation that was had. This is what actually happened. So it's just so much that goes on, you never really know unless, you know, you watch the tape. And a lot of times people reach out and say, this is what happened or this is what the coach told me.

So being, you know, plugged in. I'm sure these guys are plugged in somewhat to people in the buildings as well. I don't know how much the players. But I'm sure they can make. Because these people, these people are infiltrating the buildings in the system, all right? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a huge fan. And I think he uses it every single day as well to grow his brain and maybe even his brand as a football analysis giver.

He's obviously got the brute strength and the ball. And he's obviously very handsome. But with the help of PFF, he's built his stats game to a level where now he's calling games every Sunday. Nice. Ladies and gentlemen, future First Ballot Hall of Famer, one of the only members of the Bullring of Honor down there for the Houston Texans. former Walter Payton man of the year whenever he raised ass

all the money for the city of Houston Burnley owner Español owner JJ Wong If you could please elaborate on your PFF usage and thoughts

especially fresh out of a week where your brother got a lower ranking than Miles Garrett in a battle you know in which there's a lot of legacy a lot of conversation a lot of tension a lot of rivalry a lot of everything between those two So if you can break it down your angle.

Now, we haven't left a lot of meat on the bone with the things that we have said about PFF from a player's perspective. Now, Jage, I'm sure you have some ideas on what maybe hasn't been mentioned in this entire argument, but you have been in open, hey, we can't be putting the rankings on TV. This is not how this goes guy for a while now. Many other people are feeling empowered to maybe say it as well, or why do you think there is a little bit of a ground swell right now where people are going? We've got to change how this goes if this is how it's going to continue to go. Well, I think first things first, that conversation, in the T.J. Miles conversation, people want to take that and turning into something different. I've had my issues with PFF for a very long time. I was their number one rated player. I had over 100 score while I was playing. They had to change the system. They literally came to me and told me we had to change our system because of how you did it. So this isn't a guy who had bad grades who's disgruntled. I literally was their number one guy. And I still hate it. I have to start with this.

PFF has a lot of very beneficial tools. They have things, D. Butt was just talking about it. They have things where you can break down plays by coverages, where you can cut down the film to, I just want to see runs to the right side under five yards. They have all this really good stuff that you can use. The number one issue with PFF, by far, bar none, hands down, is their player grading system and the fact that they project

it everywhere, including nationally televised games on Sunday night where everybody's watching. And they make it underneath the rankings where it states, as fact, 91st out of 97th defensive tackles, 117 out of 117 offensive guard. And that is a completely made up number. that is not like the coaches around the league and the players around the league that is a guy or guys in the back room I'm gonna get in hot I'm getting hot oh I like to keep going let's how you summon some change personal stories of Uber drivers telling NFL passengers that they break down film for

PFS and that they watch the TV copy only and put a grade out after the game. You can't watch film on the TV copy and create a grade. You can't break down a person's grade and know what they're supposed to do if you don't know their exact assignment. Like D. Butch just said, I know defensive line play unbelievably well. I could not go and grade a game for a player and give him a definitive grade without speaking to him, his coach, the scheme, everything.

it's just a fact PFF has a ton of great stuff player grading sucks stop putting it out hell yeah that boy James

well done change change change change change he broke the system this guy broke the system and now he's raging against it you know and he's saying hey

this ain't right you guys might have liked me but I got teammates that you were misjudging in this entire thing And, Jage, I think that's right. We talked about this, too. Like, when PFF was trying to make, like, a name for itself in the stats world, because there's a lot of stats coming, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats.

Everywhere. They were coming. We're coming for your sport, bro. We got a whole new area to do it. And I think, I would like to say, as football guys and football people, we're pretty open to it, I think. You know, I think we were pretty open to the stats at the beginning. We're saying a lot of it was bullshit, but listen, there's some very beneficial things. I think this is good stuff.

Whenever the coaches started making only their decisions for this entire thing and changing it all, I think we, you know, kind of started judging them a little bit more harshly for not having a feel or a gut feel or an instinct or anything like that. But PFF became the one because of the, I don't want to say the hot takes, but basically the hot takes. I think they're at the stage now where they don't have to do that anymore, right? Which is kind of what you're saying. Like, hey, you got a lot of other good shit that would be a sustainable business, I think, for a lot of football people. I think you guys have found what you guys could be and, and, you guys. could be a real asset for.

So just doing the trolling holier than now, we know everything shit is just stupid at this stage. I think is what you're saying, a lot of us are saying, right? I think you were even saying earlier. It's like you have actual, you have great benefits for the football world within what you guys have, especially with all the information that you've garnered,

with the platform that you have with where you're at. So it's like, let's go ahead and utilize that. Let's make football better. Dey mommy? Yes. Jay, any final thoughts here? This is kind of your thing here. This is kind of your run.

I'll hold my tongue. They do good stuff. Just stop doing your fucking player grades, man. Hell yeah. Well, that's it. Team on three. One, two, three. All right, let's move along.

Other things that need to stop. We need to have great turf everywhere football is happening. Okay? I can't take it anymore. We're in 2025. We got super scientists. I watched how high. How long ago they were growing tree in their dorm room?

This one make you smarter. This one to make you. You happier just won't do this. The green thumbs of people these days, okay, higher than it's ever been. They're growing everything everywhere. And somehow, we can't get good turf in these NFL stadiums. Now, obviously, there are some places that are fantastic. Pittsburgh, the artist formerly known as Hinesfield.

Now, Acresher has been notoriously terrible with obviously stories of them spray painting dirt and mud green so that on TV it appears as if it is grass, but it's even worse. in a situation like this happens with one of the best kickers in the history of the NFL, one of the most sure-fire kickers in the NFL. He's on your team, and obviously the entire turf rolls up on top of his foot. Could have rolled his ankle, could have sprained it instead.

Acrefield said, don't worry about it. You won't roll it because you have to get stuck. We're just going to slide right underneath the ball. Obviously, he doesn't hit a clean ball there. So whenever you see this type of shit, Jage, what are your thoughts? I don't know where you were on the hashtag, change the turf.

Is that what it was? I don't remember what the hashtag was whenever it was like turf first grab. You've been on the record saying to us, like, hey, I've gone to some of these soccer games where they put the grass on top of the turf. That shit's not the greatest either. What are your thoughts on what's going on in Pittsburgh? And what are your thoughts on the turf thing kind of as a whole in the NFL that kind of we revisit every, I don't know, 15 months or so? Yeah, I mean, my first thought, because you could tell that this field was deteriorating throughout the course of the game.

We were there, we were calling the game, and you could tell, and we had stuff ready because we thought that something might happen like this, just, witnessing it. And my first thought was, well, this is an anti-turf argument or anti-natural grass argument because you obviously have the whole turf argument going. But I also know that the Steelers, they had already planned to switch the field out after this game. I think they switch it out three times throughout the season. But I think Tones touched on it before many people have. This is what happens when you have natural grass that far north and you have pit playing on it in addition to the Steelers playing on it and I completely understand that the Steelers don't own the field and everything but like this is a multi multi billion dollar

business here and these are the assets of the business and I understand everything that goes into everything but that had a chance to hyper extend his knee in a very bad way we saw Miles Kilbur go down earlier you don't know if that's directly correlated to that or not but at the end of the day I think players still would prefer that their foot slide like that to give them a chance versus the turf where it gets stuck. But that field was really, really bad, and it's very rare you see players like Aaron Rogers and Cam Hayward come out and just blast their own home field the way that they did after the game. See, Aaron Rogers obviously knew there thinking to himself probably with how high he has held to Pittsburgh Steelers in his mind. So the way Aaron has always talked about the Steelers, Pittsburgh, everything has always been like in very high regards. Like McCarthy being his coach in Green Bay, and McCarthy's still, you know,

he's got pictures of Greenfield behind him in his office. Like Aaron knows Pittsburgh's been around Pittsburgh, has always held the Steelers in high regard. It's AFC Green Bay Packers is basically how he's always talked about the Steelers. So I assume whenever he gets on that field and it's like that, he's like this is not. Yeah. This is not like what? Lambeau's immaculate. Yeah, like he's probably mind-blown, I think, but also saying like this is not how it's supposed to be.

you guys are like the this is the franchise this is not how this is supposed to go and i saw a lot of people tone digs included talk about the pit field and ben rothersberger said on football and the same exact thing he said they need to build like a 35 000 stadium uh a person stadium in oakland a little bit going to be tough to find that room i think in the city it's going to be difficult to do that but a lot of people have been saying get pit their own stadium even though the city owns it and then a lot of pit people were saying we didn't have a game for like eight days before so why are we what are we what are we We don't even play in there. Let's go to Hammer.

Dodd, Todd. Tone, you've been taking it on the shins pretty good. I think a 48-year-old in Robinson went after you pretty good. And then obviously that spurred some other conversations around Pittsburgh. But then Ben Rothersberger comes out and kind of echoes your sentiment. You're not the only one. How do you feel right now about what is possible for the future of the city of Pittsburgh with their stadium set up? And how are the shins after the 15,000, 20,000 people?

They go to every game, took out their broomsticks and hit you on the shins. Yeah, I fired off that original tweet that Foxy Pitt up, or put up in the moment there. And Pitt has always been the easy target as far as firing shots at the field. Yes, I know they lease it with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Neither of those places own it. And then I did fire off some other tweets after that after I started getting attacked because I am not really good at, you know, just letting it go and not go and cutthroat at places. So yeah, they got upset.

The shins took it quite a bit. That's fine. That's going to happen or whatever. All I want is like, yes, I know it's north of the Mason-Dixon line and they share it together. But there's other places that share fields with college football teams. I believe the Eagles do it and others. And their grasp is fine.

I'm really just frustrated, like figure it out. Because if Baws would have got hurt there, that's an absolute, like, disaster. And in that city, I just hope everyone realizes what pecking order is, and it's Pittsburgh Steelers, and it's everybody else. So if it's going to help the Pittsburgh Steelers, yeah, I think you should only play Steelers game. On that note, I think some Pitt fans really turned heel thinking that they were more important than the Steelers on the Internet.

I saw some of that. So they kind of work themselves into a shoot, brother. So they kind of went into a circle, but I think all we all want is just a perfect setting and environment for great football. Is this not the NFL? Is this not the highest level? It's pinnacle. You're talking about Boswell getting hurt.

T.J. is making $40-some million a year. Miles Garrett's making $40-some million a year. Aaron Rogers' first ballot Hall of Famer, if any of those guys get hurt because of the bullshit, that story is obviously magnified. Boswell having that happen, it's a kicker. That's one of the greatest of all time right there. That kicker Boswell is one of the greatest.

There weren't people putting pit up ahead of the Steelers. They were acting like it, bro. They were acting like it. I've turned down a few pit games in my day and seeing those yellow seats, all right? Screaming! They're screaming. You got you through the screen. Nothing wrong with the good program, good program, great history.

I've turned on those games and I've seen the yellow seats. Yeah, you can hear the yellow seats with your eyes because it's in the quad box and it's just like the whole thing. I've heard people even describe it as those yellow seats are spitting through the screen because you see it because they're so loud. Like if it was black seats or something like that or blue seats, I think it would just kind of blend in. The fact that it's yellow, it's like we see everyone. Like we see it all. And I'm not saying that Pitt doesn't have their diehard family. of the University of Pittsburgh.

I think people would die for the University of Pittsburgh. There is... Big on them. There is Pitt. There are those types of people. Now, I do think not a lot of them

have the opportunity to go to the football games still because we all, just like Jade said, we all have eyes. We watch the game. But now, if that field's perfect, nobody cares about anything.

So let's figure out the grass. Let's figure out the grass. Why doesn't your dad go down or figure out the grass? How is he on a lawnmower? He's got a Z-turned downer? We've got to make this thing go ahead and tie in.

He should because he hates pit as much as he loves the Steelers. Let's go to the next conversation. Speaking of injuries, I don't know what I'm talking about. We had four very serious injuries in the Indianapolis Colts game, including a neck on a special team's return, where I believe the guy got released from the hospital later in the night, so we're very thankful for that.

It was scary in real time. But obviously, Mooney getting hurt in a pre-game warm-up. Anthony Richardson gets hurt doing a band exercise, and then Marvin Harrison got concussed right in front. I mean, it was, there's a lot of injuries. What are you guys doing pregame in Indianapolis? What is going on pregame in Indianapolis? The question.

We don't know. We're winning. I know that. But I think we should dial it back a little bit because we can still win without losing guys in the pregame warm-off as they're running a little snake. Oh, my goodness, man. It looked like he put a shoulder into him. I don't really understand that right there.

No, he was in the middle of doing his thing. He tried to avoid him last second. Come on. He was doing his thing. No. Yeah, right. Our team's tight, bro. Don't think about that. Don't talk about that. He felt terrible about it as well, you know, so what's that? He's moving. He tried to scoot out of the way. He slid his butt a little bit out to the side.

I got the Colts this weekend. I'm going to be watching those pre-game warm-ups close. Okay. You can see what's going on. Thanks for keeping an eye on it, James. We need you to do that. We need to keep an eye on it. He's not on the pre-game warm-ups for you. On that note, what was your routine? Did you do pre-pre-work workout? Yeah, I did the pre-pre-work.

pre, but I kept it, I did it way too hard early in my career. So I learned to back the pre-pre down and ramp up the pre. You were doing so. If you do the pre-pre, you get too excited. Do you remember what he became in the pre-pre? J.J. Watts playing catch with every kid in the city. Yep. You remember that? When did you start doing it? Did you do that to save yourself from running all over the field so you didn't wear yourself out there? Like, I need to do something, but I can't just run my life away here on the field. Is that how that started? How did you start that? It actually was a nice little warm-up, but no, I started because, so I grew up

in Wisconsin, Green Bay Packers fan growing up, and I went to training camp one time, literally one time. They've opened training camp, and I remember going to the players parking lot after and standing outside the fence, and I had literally a white t-shirt, and I threw it over and hoping somebody signed it,

didn't even know who it was, probably a practice squad guy or somebody, signed it and threw it back to me, and I was like, that was the coolest thing of all time. And so in the NFL, I always tried to find like that thing where some kid is going to a game for the first time ever

and is going to have a memory of that day. How can you make that memory a special one? But you have to keep it rolling. I couldn't sign autographs for everybody before the game. So I was like, I'll play catch.

Like, it takes one second for each person and I can hit a shitload of people as I go around the stadium. So I just make one quick lap before I went in and played catch as many kids as possible.

I thought it was good for the game what you did. I thought it was good for the game. And I like the fact that in every city, they were catching it and throwing it back to you. You know, like some of those places you throw it into the stands and they hate you, they're taking that thing throwing it backwards, backwards, backwards, out of the stadium. You know, so the fact that they didn't do that, I think that was the tip of the cap to you as a person. But that pre-pre-workout that you were talking about losing your mind during, it's organized chaos out there.

I don't know how more injuries don't happen. After seeing this, and it was right, my mom actually had eyes on it. My mom was already at the game, and she sent a text to the group. And then, or to me, and then DeBone was at the game as well, sent a picture. And my mom was like, somebody just got really hurt, like really hurt in warm-ups or whatever. And it was like, how, it's two hours, how is there anything happening? And we learned it's one of our guys. And guess what happens, JJ?

I feel like it's D-Bs, because you're going backwards. And those, like, the punt returners where they're like, you don't know where that ball's going. You don't know what's going on. Like, those are the two, to me, that are the ones that have the biggest chance of getting hurt. And clearly here was on D-Bund, did you, did you participate in this? Did you have to clear out 30 yards of space? Yeah, you just kind of know, and the person throwing the ball to you is kind of responsible, too, in my opinion, because I'm here leading you either right or left.

But you usually take a peek back. You're not just out there just blind. Depending on what time, you know, depending on if it's home or way you will have, you know, the time you would go out there and warm up. But you knew your kind of area of the field that would be safe. This is, it looks like Ogletree was kind of coming kind of out of nowhere off the sideline. But once again, like those, I don't know if they're coaches or trainer. or what they were, but they got to be responsible too

because you don't want guys getting hurt and warm-ups. Just like in practice, practice when shit's on the sidelines. Like, you know, that one time, you know, first, second day of training camp is maybe a loose helmet or a loose pad on the sideline and everybody just kind of stops like, fuck is going on now. So it's the same thing with pregame. You can't let, you know, your big time corner get hurt pregame. And there's no, like, designated places for people, but there's like unwritten rules.

It's like an interesting, it's a very interesting dynamic. All I know is kickers and punters, we are loosed on the pecking order. So if we find some space, we definitely use it, okay? If you're Justin Tucker and Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes coming around, you just go ahead and get those balls away from their feet. Because guess what, go for the entire fucking league here, not to have these guys get hurt on your kicking balls beforehand. Just like that to be known.

Like, that's where kickers punters stand from. But we need that, that's when we need that field. Because for punters... Were you ever the guy that went out in, like, in between the cheerleaders was practicing, like right before the... kickoff or after halftime? No, I thought if you got in the middle of there, Kay, you were really trying to work on something.

For me, I thought mentally we could get some work done on a side. Definitely hitting while things are happening, though, at the halftime show. There was some preseason game where it had to be, I was punting in it, I forget what year it was, but the other team's backup punter, okay, so because he's got preseasoning of backup punters. Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah. Guy, I think he hit somebody that was in the,

in the thing yeah i got called in asked about if i saw what happened yada yada yada oh no i was like i did see what happened yeah who called you it uh because it was at it our it was at our stadium and the email that got sent was from a parent it was like a band uh contest or something happening in the city or something high school band deal yeah it was like a big deal and the person that sent in the email was like talked about how hard everybody on that band field worked to get to that moment and the everything that was put into that and the sacrifice like really laid it in i mean it was you know i was i was told to read it why did i get this is what i was told and i was like oh i saw it yeah it was not good it was it was a shank completely like because in those moments

can't be shanking into the you know like i've done a punt you know half-time show big half-time show and it's like you're really rolling the dice every time you know it's like that's real pressure there let's see if we got just got out of the fucking locker room little chilly here gallery got a hundred million dollar artist right here okay let's not hit a shank left right now and just take somebody off the thing but you got to get your working too like i'm trying to do my job too like i got to do my shit you actually broke my finger freaking i just remember well that's on you brother that ball's coming down from the clouds he's right there just what that's me no no's you no what happened middle finger too that's a good one if i was getting any of them on

Happy's the middle free. I think backup punt return either went down or was inactive. So mid-stead came up to me. It was like, hey, going to need you today just back up punt return. You know, if you've done it, no.

If you can't return it. But sure, I got out there to catch a couple. Yeah, go catch a couple from Pat. My God, then one in there had to just splint it before the game. It's tough, man. I think it was before Rams. The game they killed us?

Yeah. Oh, man. That might have been, did you have the halftime, like, military? Yeah. Yeah, that was a rough one. Yeah, was a rough day. Chris Lone. I was bombing the ball, though, man.

That one, Tavon Austin took one back 98 that game. That was a perfect punt. Just Tavon Austin takes to the crib. I bet karma for breaking my finger. You broke your finger. You didn't break your finger. That's on you, brother. That's you.

What, you think you were top six, probably right, hands on the team? I was two. Two and three. Yeah, right. Reggie. Go on? Then probably me and T.Y. Then you were probably four, five.

Okay. You know what that's, Jage, Shane Lekler, hands on the team. What do you think his hands were? You think they were top three, top five? No, no, no. Catches the ball every time he goes on the field. Every single time. He goes on the field.

He catches the ball. Yeah. We had John Weeks tossing it back there. It was put exactly where he wanted. Belize was right where he wanted every single time. Weeks he was an animal. Wixie's this tall. Weeksy is still playing San Fran.

Still doing it. It's out there in San Fran. Maybe what, 20? How many years is this? It's got to be... It's a lot. Jeez. He was unbelievable.

Incredible. He's so small. I cannot believe that those guys can snap the ball 14 yards and still decide how many rotations to get the laces up. That blows my mind. That's unbelievable if Wakesh can do that. I don't think there's a lot of people that... You got good.

I had a couple of different snappers that were very good. Matt Overton snapped for a very long time. He was incredible. good with laces on field. Who was before? Justin Snow is his name. So he actually named his kid Hunter, okay? The punter that was here for 11 years before me, his name, Hunter. So the long snapper and the previous punter, besties. We're talking best, best friends. And Hunter the punter was beloved in Indianapolis. He was a very good man. He's a, I believe he's a religious singer. He has a Christian rock. He's a Christian rock band singer. Of course. Very athletic.

Wanted to Notre Dame, I believe. I mean, you're talking about beloved here in town. And then this dumb ass gets drafted in here, just complete opposite of this guy. I mean, it's just complete opposite of this human being. I get a public intoxication, obviously my second year. Hunter the punter, yeah, right. This guy literally Notre Dame, Christian Singer, be loved in the community.

We're talking about going to hospitals every single day. Like, Mother Teresa type stuff, this guy. The long sniper names his kid after him. And then I get drafted come in here, just fucking animal. Justice Stone didn't talk to me for like six weeks. The only time he talked to me is like, where was the snap? And I'm like, I blacked out, I don't know.

And he's like, God. He's like, what's that? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know where it's, I don't remember. Sorry, I just kind of go out there and do my thing. It must have been good, I guess, because it was a good pun. I don't even know. So that guy hated me for a while. But then we came best friends. He was really good. Strong, handsome guy.

Longsnappers are an interesting job. Two mistakes, you're fired. Yeah. All the time, just looming. Yep. Two mistakes, you're fired. Week still doing it is incredible. Speaking of still doing it, two old guys are battling in the AFC North.

Kind of unexpected matchup here, but obviously going to be a great one. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Jay, he's 20. 2025, it feels like 2015. What are you thinking about the Rogers Flackos? I believe someone might have been Cam Hayward dubbed it the icy hot bowl during Rogers press conference yesterday. What are you thinking about tomorrow night? All right.

Harry Potter over there asking questions. Nice. I think this is, it's going to be interesting. Short week. You know, last week we had the Steelers and coming off a buy, Mike Tomlin's 14 and 4 against rookie quarterbacks. Mike Tomlin's 26 and 6. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, his Thursday night record specifically against divisional opponents is not very strong.

Oh, and six. Is it really? Oh, and six. Yeah, O and six on the road in the division. Yeah, that fits that category. But I know Trey Hendrickson's possibly out here. Broderick Jones played a really good game this past week with a very difficult assignment in Miles Garrett. the Steelers just know who they are right now.

You can tell that they know how they have to play these games and win these games. They're going with this XL personnel on offense with Spencer Anderson, stepping in, Darnel, Washington, and they just block well, run the ball, and then set up these throws where Aaron's taken a ton of underneath throws, and then every couple times throughout the game, he takes those deep shots. That throw to Connor Hayward was vintage Aaron Rogers. he's got the D.K. throws. He missed one super deep one to D.K. where D.K. had burned the corner. So they just know who they are and how they have to win games right now, and their

defense has finally started to figure it out after the first two games where they struggled. But we all know how it is. Going on the road is tough on Thursday night, even if it is close, like Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Offensive Line, you know, it feels like this is a short week and you're not sleeping much, knowing what's coming on the other side and how you have performed thus far. Joey Flacco, though, can get that ball out quick. You know, BFF said it. You know, sometimes quarterback can have a scheme

that's so much better than everybody on defense, even if they're winning their assignments. Yeah. You know, because their assignment could be go left in. That's assignment. Check the box. 100% on assignment. Ain't that right?

I mean, Joey Flacco, the Browns have not scored over 17 points at 11 straight games. Joey Flacco goes to the Cincinnati Bengals scores 18 points in the first game like he is like the throwing of the we're calling that game and

going into the game both teams all week long had said when Sean Juggins is the key to this game he's a dynamic runner really can do everything explosive we'll run people over and then they throw the ball 58 times I think they got sacked on six of them so it looked like

52 but they just didn't get the run game going at any point. You have to, you can't abandon the run. This game wasn't really out of, out of reach until like the fourth quarter. I mean, maybe end of the third, but they just were chucking the ball over the yard. And yes, I know there wasn't a lot of success in the run game early, but for them to be successful, specifically with a rookie quarterback, you have to try and get that run game going. And they just, they could not do it. It feels like everybody has to get the run game going. It's 2025 football in the NFL. There's two teams at the top, though, right now. I don't know if you know.

know there's, Jade, there's two teams that are five and one. Pittsburgh Steelers four and one early by week. They might become five and one, but there's currently two teams five and one. Representing the AFC, the Indianapolis courts, of course. Okay, everybody knew that's how that was going to be. Whenever you forecasted the season and training camp after week six, the Indianapolis coach could be your number one scene in the AFC. You know what, give us the Hunt trophy.

Go ahead and just give us the Hunt trophy. It's great to be here, Jage. By the way, thank you for asking. Indianapolis fans are very happy about how we're playing. In every mic'd-up thing that gets released, we're a cool team, too. So, I mean, everything's going good here. I love the Daniel Jones miced up. That was great.

Which one? The one where he's talking? What do you like better? I like both. At first I saw the one where he wasn't talking. That was great. And then I saw the one where he's talking. He just, we have them this week.

I'm very excited. I haven't been able to watch much of them. So this week, watching the film, I was really looking forward to seeing what the Colts look like. And I've had this thing in my head where it's like Danny Dimes is managing the game. He's just taking what's given to him. And then I flip on the film. and he fires this dark into Alec Pierce in the red zone

between three dudes, and I'm like, oh, he is not just managing the game. He is firing. Hey, brother, watch that Broncos game, dude. They bliss them like 73% of the time or something like that. You're talking about moving in the pocket, eyes downfield, and throwing seeds. Every ball is a good ball. Every ball is the right decision. It's like, remember there are a string that they want on at the beginning of the season

when no turnovers and just touchdowns, basically. They didn't punt for like three weeks. I mean, it has been very good, very early with Shane Steikin's offense and Danny Dimes. And my source says tell me that Danny Dimes lives in the building. He is in the building. He's a 5 a.m. So he's in there 5 a.m. And then he stays till the end.

He's trying to build relationships with everybody. Obviously, he's only on a one-year deal with us. But everything you want from a lead quarterback, he has been. And I think if you ask the people in Indianapolis, they're like, we got to go back and watch the film of him at the Giants. What we need to see if there was, is this the same guy that was at the Giants? Because they believe that he is the perfect guy. Everything that was said about him, there were people on his side coming out of the draft.

Like, hey, this guy worked with Manning's people. He's more athletic. He's smarter. He's tough. He can run faster. All of those things. He's doing right now at his highest level. And I think the Colts people are like, we got so lucky that it did not work at the other places. And we're riding that wave. On that note, there's a team down in Florida that's riding a wave of a guy who didn't work in a couple other places as well. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, Tampa Bay's 5 and 1. They started the season without Tristan Worf's and Cody Mocked the right guard. then they lose Goedecki. Then they lose all of their receivers.

Chris, Bucky Irving's out. Chris Gawdwin comes back, then he's back out, right? Baker Mayfield has been incredible. How is he able to keep this team afloat? I love that. I mean, like, A, his skills are underrated. Like, I think we put so much on his moxie and his persona and everything that he has from that standpoint that his arm is great.

Obviously, his ability to read the defense to break him down. but his ability to escape and to run and to just do whatever it takes and then once you add on the fact that he's just never debt at any point in any game and he has this like standing in the total against Seattle is such a great visual of him and who he is and when you have a guy like that slinging it in your backfield you just believe in yourself more the defense believes in themselves more where they say if we get one stop here and give it to him he's going to take us down the field and win the game the receivers are

catching balls that they might not have caught before. O'Lyman are blocking a little bit longer and getting that extra little push. That is very, very real. And I think it's such a cool aspect to his story what he had to go through in the middle. Obviously, you wouldn't want to have to go through those Panthers' ears and all that stuff again.

But to see what he's playing like now after people rode him off a few times, guy's a baller. It's awesome. You think he's a pre-workout guy? Before the man, half-gone? He does seem like he could be, But then if you also told me, like, no, he's just like a mental-free workout guy, yeah. Yeah.

I could see that. Salts big time. He's definitely playing with Zen and too. Okay. Yeah, which has to. That's Baker Mayfield experience. Like, he feels like he's drinking beer in the parking lot with the old line. Like, that's the type of guy he feels like.

He feels like Gus Swayze, the video that the Buccaneers re put out of him being dressed up as a super fan at one of the workouts, fantasy camps, and thrown it. That is how he plays, which I think is why he's so beloved down there. I'm so happy it is working for them. I can't wait until they have their full. fleet. Now, you aren't a full season into it yet, but you've been doing a great job calling games. DeBud has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, going into week seven now, which a new gig in the booth every week. Like, how's it been? What's kind of been the biggest, I guess, challenges, biggest surprises so far in the year for you? Yeah, it's, I love it,

man. It's so much fun because you're in the stadium to get the adrenaline. You have no idea what's going to happen on the field, and you're just reacting live. Probably the biggest changes for me have been preparation during the week. just learning what I need to know and what I don't need to know. Early on, I just, it was an unbelievable amount of information on my boards, and I learned that, like, some of the stuff was not relevant, and I didn't need it, and I've transitioned to adding more stuff that is actually useful during the game. But being able to see friends, being able to see how teams attack certain things,

and as a player, you attacked a week, and you're watching one side of one opponent. I'm only watching the offense of the other team, and generally, mainly the offensive line, and just figuring out how I have to attack them. For this, I have to watch both sides of both teams. So it's a lot more global view of the game and trying to figure out all these different aspects and how they play together, and then making sure you explain to the viewers in a way that's comprehensible to them. This last game, there were some really good examples.

Dylan Gabriel had thrown a couple balls over the middle that were caught, but his guys took big hits and then they started to be looking at the safety instead of looking back at the ball and they dropped a couple because of that and we had some really good shots and I thought that was a really cool thing to kind of be able to show and talk about

on the broadcast. Yeah, that's great. Anything that you know you can show that people don't normally see is a good thing but also you got to talk about what we're seeing. Some of these booths become super experts and talk about stuff that's like super niche and it's like how many people understand what the hell you're talking about? I think you do a great job of dumbing it down

while making it great. And it might be because of just who you are and where you come from. On that note, Ty has the last question for you. Yeah, JJ, look, I know you're a big-time entrepreneur, okay? You know, you own multiple soccer teams. I saw a report on the internet. I don't know if this is true, but it basically just said, hey, if Luke Fickle is to get fired at Wisconsin, JJ Watt has already said, I will throw my hat in the ring.

I will go back to Madison, and I will help restore the badgers to glory. Is there any truth to that? and can we be expecting that? Because AQ already said, hey, listen, I want to go coach at Penn State. Whoa, did he? Yeah, this morning. Did he? Yeah, this morning he said that.

I mean, what James Franklin was getting paid, I think anyone would take that job. That's not the thing. We wish James Franklin his best. On that note, Jage, you own Burnley, you own Espaniel, colleges like professional sports now. Have you thought about dabbling, maybe? Maybe Penn State? It is. The life of a college football coach has absolutely.

absolutely no appeal whatsoever to me. I like coaching football, like just appear on the field, like helping guys be better at what they do and create the best they can. But then you add in all the meetings, you add in all the hours, and you add in recruiting and the traveling and having to go to these 17-year-old kids and be like, hey, you're the greatest in the world, come to our university. Then you add in the NIL and the boosters and people coming at you after the game. You didn't cover the spread, what's going on?

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Level up for more on the ESPN app or at stream.esPN.com. Sign up now. Football. It's magical. I like that we had a little delayed cadence there. The boys are here at the Toxit table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Glasses are awesome, Conman.

Thank you. Appreciate it. You need to know that. You look very cool with those. Blue light. No more blue light in the brain. Get it out. Okay, I like that play. I like that move because it does affect you, I think.

Definitely. There's nights because we live on our phones. We all have to, basically, because in the daily show world, we have to know what's going on everywhere. Yep. Try to at least. And whenever we get it wrong, we're right in the fire because we're wrong. So we try our best not to be.

So to do that, you have to be on your phone a lot. You have to be scanning a lot, you have to be scouring a lot, you have to be seeing a lot, you have to be doing all that. There are some nights where I put it down, I'm about to pass out, and my entire head just feels like there is like an orb inside of it. Just like, that's going to affect this long term, I assume, at some point. Because the blue light glasses, they had to a quick run, remember? Because it was almost like those little wristbands that they sold back in the day that Pooka brought up to us. Oh, yeah. Tees of a piece, but the wristbands back a day were a little bit of a hustle.

That's where it felt like, hey, you need to wear these blue light glasses, you need to wear these. You need to wear these blue light glasses. You're going to go blind. And then everybody just stopped doing it. I still think they serve a pretty vital purpose. Yeah. And if that's what those are, you look very cool in those glasses. They got good shapes in them, Bob.

Yeah, it was more so just like 12 years of one-a-day contacts. Like, I was just dumb with it. And then I thought about- You were doing one-a-day contact? For 12 years, yeah. So I was at the point where I just couldn't do it anymore. And then, you know, I went to the eye doctor. They, you know, I asked, I inquired about some glasses. And they told me, hey, the five-star treatment, they got blue light.

they got the whole nine, the whole kit and caboodle. Never actually had a fitted pair of glasses. So, yeah, it's nice. I think they look cool. I think it's a good pair of glasses. I assume you feel better, too, because you have to do it. Sleeping much better. Like, my whole life is better.

I can imagine. It's stabbing yourself in the eye every single day with the context. It's crazy. I never did that when I had contacts. I left a minute out two years or so. Turns out your eyes get real swollen and they get really worried about you. I have to start. I would not recommend that to anybody.

I would not recommend that to anybody. Nine-year NFL vet. Dary's J. Butler's here. Can't wait for everything. D.B. good, D, bad D, and 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion player coach AQ. Shippley's good. We're going to go into trenches

and maybe get some takeaways here in a matter of moments, but we need to head to an attic in Ohio. College Football National Champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies a gentleman, AJ, Haw. Yeah, Hawker. How you doing, pal? I'm good. I didn't I thought the blue light glass were out. Didn't they prove that those things don't do anything?

Well, that's what I'm saying. It was kind of like the wristband. It kind of came through. You're going to save your life, and then it keeps it moving. No. I don't know if the blue light glasses will stop my head from feeling the way it does when I stare at phone for too long, especially in the dark at night. But it feels like it's part of the five-star package that's currently sitting on Conner's face. Yeah, yeah. Who proved it? Was it the FDA or the WHO or is it one of those companies we definitely trust? It's a good question. Okay, all right. There's going to be stats from both sides on that, which is once again another thing that we have

to try to figure out is we're a daily show, lucky to do it, thankful to do it. Speaking of daily shows, we could kind of sense that maybe the PFF wave was rolling in a certain direction. Now, it's always had its detractors, I mentioned this a couple different times, always had people against it, most notably the people that have played at the highest level or coached at the highest level, seemingly the most against it on a regular basis, because you're making up a definitive number about things that are not definitive. You have no idea what actual rankings could be, but PFF saying, no, we're just trying to give general audience a general idea of what it is. It was like you're changing lives. Chris Long's take was hysterical.

We're talking about legislation about what kids need to be seeing in school. we don't need kids seeing a Patrick Mahomes 13 out of 32 as you're incredibly blurry maybe you need to get some five-star package over there on your screen or on your camera we need to call you back we'll certainly call you back you're going to have to reset that thing AJ I was excited to get his take on because AJ sent a text in the middle of our argument says you can't win an assignment he feels the exact same way as everybody else does we'll get back to that with AJ let's head over to Hammer Don Don AP tone listen college ball is heating up and it feels like we had the biggest road win of the season AP put out their top 25 on Sunday. Stanford, Steve, put out his top 15, I believe, yesterday, and you now officially going to be putting out your college football playoff prediction as we sit after week seven of college football. Is that accurate, Tom?

Yeah, I figured at the halfway point, this was probably a good time to do this. I saw that everyone was putting out there, you know, top 25s and stuff like that. That's all fun and good. This is what really matters. The playoff in the playoff bracket and what's going to happen here is what we're really matters at the end of the day. So yeah, I wanted to put one out. And how do you feel? What is the storyline of yours? Obviously, your number one team is Ohio State. Number two team ACC champion, Miami. SEC champion, number three seed in Alabama. Number four seats, the

Big Ten runner-up in Indiana. They make it to the Big Ten finals and lose and still get a buy because they're ranked in the top four. Yeah, Ohio State is clearly looks like the best team in the country and they're defending national champion. So at this point, it's hard to predict any losses for them. And then IU, if you look at the schedule, there's a real good chance that they went out as well. So I figured if they both get to the Big Ten championship game as undefeated, obviously the winner would be number one.

And then I have a hard time dropping the loser, an undefeated regular season loser, and punishing them for losing the Big Ten championship game out of getting a buy. So that's why IU would go from, they'd probably be two or three before the game and then drop to that four. Congrats to Texas Tech with a huge win in their conference. USF is the Power 5 that makes it in at 12.

Notre Dame sneaks in. Much debate, though. In your mid-season college football playoff prediction here, you didn't put what conversations led to Notre Dame making it in. Was it massive debate? How loud did it get before they made it in? Well, obviously, there is a huge one this weekend between Notre Dame and USC, which is an absolute must win for Notre Dame because after this, the schedule is not super tough.

So if you win this weekend against USC and win out, it's very, very hard to leave out Notre Dame with their two losses would be to Miami, who's potentially undefeated at that point in the season. And then A&M, who I put at six instead of three, because in this situation, I had them losing to Alabama and the SEC championship. So if you lose, if your only losses are to Miami and A&M, obviously a big one this weekend for them in SC, I have a hard time leaving Notre Dame out. Notre Dame, the road looks clearer and clearer every single day. Obviously, that road can become a fast pass to the playoffs if they beat USC. I was not a believer. I thought they were going to be dead whenever it started the way it did. But now with how we see A&M doing, to your point, and how Miami's doing,

those are not bad losses to actually have on the old resume. They just so happen to happen early. Congrats to Ole Miss and Georgia, where we're heading this weekend making it in there. Obviously, you're not giving anything away there. Tennessee, Hypo's team, rolling. Congrats to them. Oregon out of the Big Ten makes it in the final spot in your eyes

well the final spot's USF but you get it in the bracket and then in the hunt there I can't help but notice a few themes you know I see Utah there don't see BYU in the hunt BYU plays Utah this weekend BYU undefeated currently Utah has one loss

says Utah's in a so it sounds like Tone doesn't think BYU is winning a holy war that's what I noticed from your college football playoff prediction here Tom yeah I might have showed my hand a little bit on that one for this weekend. I do like the Utes over BYU. I just, you know, I like

Damp here in Utah and Wittingham over a freshman quarterback in BYU in his first holy war in that situation. Then Utah would have to then win out because there's not going to be a lot of big 12 games in there, or big 12 teams in there,

I should say. And then the other ones, you know, when I like went through and I looked at the schedules, it's like LSU, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas, Vandy, those SEC teams, like they got them around nine and three, like are they going to get in at nine and three? There's a question mark. Georgia Tech is undefeated. So, but Georgia Tech is a dog at Duke this weekend? So like, is Georgia Tech going to slip up? They still have Georgia

on their schedule. They have an ACC championship on their schedule. But obviously, if they keep winning and went out, they're going to be in. There's just a lot of, those SEC teams in the hunt, they have a far tougher schedule than Tennessee and Georgia. in Ole Miss. That's why I had those SEC teams sneaking in. The other SE teams that have to play five ranked game in a row, I have those ones out strictly because it's going to be hard to

navigate those waters. Five SEC teams is what time is usually. One ACC team, one Big 12 team, one independent, one power five which leaves what? Three left there for the Big Ten. Yep. And I think the Big Ten people would say, our top three, we feel good about running

any of them. Is that right what the Big Ten feels? Yeah, I would assume so. You're thinking that, I mean, especially with Indiana now, it's like, hey, who's to say that Indiana might not be in the championship with a good shot to win it? And then I think everyone thinks Ohio State is the best team in the country right now. And then if Oregon is kind of just like your throwaway, you know, hey, Oregon's there. They might win, might win too. Like, it doesn't matter if they get four teams in because they have a very good chance of potentially winning a national championship with any of those three teams that, you know, could potentially get in. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, from

Anatic in Ohio is a Ohio State representative, has a tree on their campus. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Rotter Cup winner, and maybe he's in focus. Ladies and gentlemen, focus on this man, AJ Haw. Oh, look at that. Focus. So fresh and so clear, clear. I appreciate you doing that for us.

A nice little reset. Tones mid-season college football playoff predictor here has the Ohio State Buckeyes sitting in number one. Congrats on another Big Ten, AJ. Congrats on another Big Ten championship over there. Yeah, we appreciate being number one. we know it doesn't matter right now, but just everyone, just getting to the dance, it's all that matters.

It's getting to the dance, and everybody's got a shot. Five SEC teams, three Big Ten teams, obviously Power Five, Big 12, and ACC represented as well. Your thoughts on that, AJ, and how loud that's going to be at the end of the year, because the back-to-back national champions are Big Ten teams. I assume there's going to be some record that is going to be talked about as Big Ten teams. But whenever Penn State, no offense, AQ. Thanks. None taken.

When Penn State does what they do, they're supposed to be a good game. Not good. Michigan, they're supposed to be a big game. That's supposed to be a ranked game. A lot of these Big Ten teams were supposed to have actual ranked games down the stretch. Now there's like none of them.

So we're going to learn nothing really about the top teams of the Big Ten until Ohio State Michigan obviously going to matter. But the SEC, they're going to beat each other up. AJ, they're about to beat each other up pretty good. I mean, they're all playing each other. So the debate before this comes out

whenever the actual one comes out, it's going to be gruesome. I mean, it is going to be very, very loud and toxic, AJ. Oh, it is. I mean, hey, Coach Saban came out here and said it. He was talking about how deep the SEC is. I agree.

The SEC is very deep. Let's see what happens once the playoffs start. Let's see if when they go head to head, what happens? Can the Big Ten prevail again when it comes to – when you do have to play in some elements and everything. It all changes, I think, towards the end of the year. What's the weather going to be like for college football fanuary in Oregon? In Oregon.

Is that the only cold game that's on Tones graphic here? Yeah. Yeah. Eugene get really cold? I assume that gets very cold up there. Is that accurate? You're from Pacific Northwest area? Well, cold but not as cold as it was in Ohio State that night.

It won't get that cold on the West Coast. So it's closer to Alaska. It's more north. More rain, though, than snow over there. I don't think I understand why it's not more rain than snow? January, it's normally highs of 48 and lows of 34. Oh, that's perfect football way. Wow.

That's perfect. Tennessee learned from last year. Yeah. And that's going to feel like a cakewalk compared to what it was last year. Tell him, we appreciate the time. time in the effort, pal. Thank you. Let's go back to what we were chit-chatting about before you were getting throttled over there,

potentially by the Ohio-based company that was in, you know, kind of questioned PFF. What are your thoughts on the reaction currently? There's always been a little bit of a negative narrative by players and coaches and people that really, really know ball about PFF, kind of giving a broad, not-so-accurate potential ranking on people and humans and changing their lives and maybe value. But then there's also the point being made. there's people in rooms that are making decisions that are using this PFF stuff as well.

AJ, how do you feel about it all and how do you feel about the chatter that's taking place around it right now? Yeah, I mean, I think it's two different things. First of all, PFF, what they do is stats and all of that. That's great. That's a resource for people to look at it. When you're grading players, though, that's a different story.

I mean, I just think we don't know. Obviously, Chris Long nailed it 100%. He's spot on everything he said it's true. I'm like, yeah, it just makes so much sense when you hear it, but it makes me think of a play. So Champ Bailey was playing for Denver. One of our defensive coaches showed the whole defense this play. I believe it was like a national televised night game.

And it shows, it looks like Champ Bailey is getting beat deep. He's like trailing three or four yards behind a dude on a deep ball, guy scores, whatever, and people think Champ Bailey's lost the step he's done. He should retire. And my coach was showing us, and he was explaining the coverage to us because I think he even called and talked to their defensive coordinator about what coverage they were in. And Champ was being a great teammate in trying to sluff off and help his

buddy like I think the safety dropped a dude or jumped down on a on a 12-yard dig or something when he had to cover him deep champ decides sees it happening comes over the top and it looks like champ gets beat deep and I think even the commentators on TV are talking about it and our coach was telling like hey like champ was being a good teammate trying to cover up for another guy and he get and now people think the guy can't even play football anymore because we don't know what the responsibilities are we don't know the assignments and it's true like I don't if it well I'm was on the packers if someone on offense ran a wrong route or did something. I have no idea. I had no idea what he was supposed to do that. Unless I come over and I talk to him after he gets off the field, like, even players

on their own team don't know whose responsibility of certain things are at times. Yeah, I have no idea what anybody's doing out there. I was in the meetings listening to it. It's, I, just to put kind of a bow on this entire thing, because we've certainly attacked it from all angles. And maybe we were seizing the opportunity to do as such, because we've kind of been on this for a few years now because it's mostly player-driven show. So a lot of players seemingly have the same exact feels about this. J.J. Watt, who's the best player in the history of PFF, has the same exact feeling as we do. Like, hey, broke the system.

Enough of this stuff. Your system wasn't even good enough to be able to track how great I are you. Okay, so how are you going to be able to track how good anybody is in this entirety? I think we're at the point now where PFF doesn't have to do this anymore is kind of what we're saying. Congrats to PFF. You've gotten to a great spot. Just like they said the Miles Garrett ranking was a compliment to the Pittsburgh Steelers, everything we've said to you here has been a compliment to you.

You've gotten to a point where you don't have to do this shit. more because all this does is just kind of undercut everything else you do because the people in the football world don't take you serious and the people that do take you serious don't know football but they don't know that they don't know football and sometimes they're in football positions and we need you not to ruin that okay pff that's a powerful tool you have so please take care of it and we appreciate you compliment imagine they do it in other sports imagine if like primetime NBA games and they pop up the starting lineup and it gives you their rankings in the NBA from like or say the NHL I don't know a whole lot about hockey and if I see a guy

is, you know, 88 out of 100. Like, oh, this guy stinks. And then he talked to a hockey person or actually, that guy's stuck. Like, that, I can see how people get swayed by that. I believe it's called NBA Twitter now. Oh, yeah. NBA Twitter would be awesome if there was rankings for every player up there.

Look at Halliburton ass ranked 55th in this entire thing. And then he hits game winner at the end of it, you know, because rankings and stats can kind of go however they want. Baseball, what would be? Hey, there's baseball happening right now, right? Yeah. Last night was a huge night in baseball with a player that we certainly know well from around the program because we had a holiday party, a Christmas party a few years back where his name was certainly

mentioned and then trending worldwide because of something that was said from our Christmas party. But baseball doing it last night. Yeah, big time. Dodgers and Brewers and the guy you're talking about, yeah, I unfortunately, a couple years ago at the holiday party got a little boozed up as we all did and I basically said hey listen Yoshinobu Yamamoto he's it's a done deal he's signing with the Yankees he is leaving Japan he is the golden goose right now and he will be it it's done nine years three hundred and twenty six million dollars in the terms uh I had the terms I had sources telling me that actually go Zia Matsui uh one of the greatest Yankees of all time who is also Japanese help pushed it over the goal line and uh just kind of the cherry on

top that Yoshi would be keeping the number 18. Reader's added context, just want to let you know? Yeah, so I put this out there and boy, I don't know, maybe 45 minutes, hour later, he signed with the Dodgers. He signed with the Dodgers. He got community noted, not until after

the signing with the Dodgers, though. There was a 30-minute period where Ty Schmidt was the biggest baseball insider on Earth. And I'll tell you what, there might be some benefits to that. There was certainly a lot of negative as well, including Jeff Pass and calling our Christmas party, FaceTime, and me answering and Ty in the back

and Jeff going, what are you doing? And Ty goes, that's really what he did. Over my shoulder, literally has a face-time. He goes like this. He goes, you don't know, maybe is what Ty said. And Jeff goes, no, I do know. That's not what happened.

Ty goes, you don't know. And then Ty just walks away. And Jeff is like, hey, he's wrong, you know that? And I'm like, yes, I mean, I didn't know he sent that out. We're all pretty boozed up here. And boy, the action that got, I mean, you were. Yeah, that thing spread like wildfire. around the world of baseball pretty quickly.

I mean, you took a jet engine around the world of baseball. People are heralding you. This guy, the new guy. Yeah. This is a new insider dude. Yeah, Yankees fans really wanted him. I really wanted him, which was partially part of the reason. But he did end up signing 12 years, $325 million with the Dodgers.

So I had the numbers. You're three years off. I had the contract, but I had the total value, which is really all you're looking for. You know, you just pulled that from your head, drunk head? Pretty much. Yeah. And we learned a lesson at that day. We can't be doing that.

I can't be doing that. People take us serious. Yeah, exactly. you know, about 5,000 retweets later, you know, people, they will see it, and they will let you know. I think even Ravi, Crowro Ravits sent a text, like, does Ty actually know? It's like, no.

Oh, no, yeah. I mean, Jet said, you know, like somebody from the Yankees called, and like, who the fuck is this guy? So, you know, I mean, sometimes it gets away from you. And we like that, we try to learn from all these things. Exactly. At one point in our show's lives, we could do that and everybody ha, ha, ha, ha. Obviously, this is not

true. Yeah. We have learned over the years through a lot of trial air, a lot of error, that there are things that we need to navigate much better, okay? We apologize for that, but we are trying our absolute best. Being the biggest baseball insider on earth for one night for one 30-minute period was a fun little trip, though. I had to do it. And hey, listen, they're going to be a couple pretty good Japanese players posted this

offseason. I might have to do it again. No. It didn't work out. I know it didn't, but it might work out this time. So did you know this, AJ? baseball in Japan started in 1872 when Horace Wilson, an English teacher, went over there. I assume there was some sort of religious reason to travel to Japan.

1872, I don't even know how you get over there. I don't know when the Wright brothers did the thing in North. He walked. Yeah, I don't know. Wow. I was so far away. I don't even know how he takes the game over there. And then obviously, they become massive fans of the sport.

And I think in 1936 or something like that, they started a professional league. So Japan and baseball have a very, very deep history. But obviously with Shohay doing his thing and more superstars coming over here, that's only going to grow, I imagine. And what happened last night, I think, is even building the game and the team in Japan, I think tenfold after a performance like last night, right? Yeah, we can assume that that teacher went directly to Bison Okayama, Japan, which is where Yoshinobu Yamamoto is from,

because it seems like a lot of good players are coming from that region. Hotbed. Yeah, exactly, a real hotbed. South Florida of Japan, right? That is what a lot of people say. Yeah. And at the time when he got signed, it was like, hey, this guy is going to be one of the, you know, he's going to be one of the next aces.

And he's been good, but then last night was really kind of his coming out party for the Dodgers. So, you know, I mean, if you want to roll the clip, Foxy here, and we'll just kind of, you know, real quick. So Yoshinovo Yamamoto, and there he is, I mean, we can show everything else. Dodgers hit a couple homers. This guy threw a complete game last night. Yeah, I mean, there's Tay Oscar Hernandez, hitting one out early, but you can really stop it there, Foxy, and kind of just go back to the strikeout to end the game.

Yoshinobu Yamamoto threw 111 pitches. He gave up a homer his first batter of the game and then basically just mowed the Brewers down. He's the first Dodger to throw a complete game in the playoffs. There he go, since 2004. So, like, we've been talking about this throughout the playoffs. This stuff doesn't happen. more and that's why you pay a guy from Japan $325 million because in the biggest moment

he goes out and kind of just mows guys down so we said it a couple days ago unfortunately Brewers are going to need an absolute miracle Dodgers are the best team in baseball I mean you know this guy is kind of just like an afterthought and they're paying him $325 million and any fifth day he can go out there and have a performance like that so I'll tell you what if you're a Dodgers fan or you're a Mariners fan you're pretty jacked up you're pretty ecstatic today because, boy, it feels like, you know, in the biggest moments right now, both these series are kind of over. Both road teams, one, both took 2-0 leads, the Mariners and the Dodgers, respectively. So, yeah, I mean, we still have baseball left. These are best

to seven series, but boy. Looking real West Coast, huh? L.A. Seattle? Looking real West Coast right now. I hope big dumpers is able to finish the story, and then obviously Shohay and the boys being able to do their thing, especially in Kershaw's last year, right? Yeah, correct. Hershaw's last year. How is? So how are you playing? He hasn't been great at the plate. I believe he's batting like 143 right now.

But I mean, it doesn't matter. You know, last night he gets an RBI single to kind of pad the lead a little bit. But that's the thing about the Dodgers. Like when you spend, you know, like $8 billion on your roster. Like, yeah, you'd like the MVP to come through. But guess what? You got another MVP behind him and another MVP behind that guy. And then an All-Star behind that guy.

So that's why I like the Pirates. Next year we have a chance? Big time. Yeah, if let, you know what? Walk back to Japan. If you can either walk back to Japan and maybe. With Horace Wilson? Yeah.

Like it's 1872. Some of these posting fees, they're going to need to spend a little money. And you expect, you hope Skeens is the same guy. And then you basically go into the clubhouse and you say, all right, you seven guys, need you guys to take steroids. And I need you guys to take steroids right now and get on multiple cycles over the next six to eight months. That'd be awesome.

And then you guys will be different. players come opening day next year. So you, you batted 198 next year. You start taking steroids right now and you get on a cycle and you just keep doing that. And then guess what? We flipped a 196 hitter. You're batting 280 next year.

This is not a real. We just talked about this with Yamamoto. No, I know, but unfortunately that is the only way the pirates will be able to win. It's the only way because they're not going to spend a bunch of money and they just, you know, they're just kind of always going to stink.

So that is basically what you're looking at You seven guys It's a lot cheaper It is a lot cheaper It is a lot cheaper And if you get suspended There's going to be a lockout in 2027 anyway Hold on

We're just getting good We got barbarians stepping into the batters book That's not a bad idea And I'm sure our guys It's Pittsburgh We'll be able to get around the test Hey Just kind of wrap up the Dodgers

And Yamamoto pitching the entirety of the game Dodgers starting pitchers and postseason is from Hembo So in 2024, they obviously won a World Series 5.25 ERA for the starting pitchers. They pitched 42% of the innings. Starting pitchers in 2025, 1.54 ERA, and they're pitching 71% of the inning. So they're going longer and throwing better this year than they were last year. Yeah, correct. And that's a big deal because if you wanted to nitpick the Dodgers going into the playoffs,

it was like, hey, you get to the bullpen. If they can get these starting pitchers out, their bullpen is kind of in flux right now and not as good. But that's why they went out and, you know, North Carolina legend, Blake Snell, That's why they paid him a bunch of money because when you can have starting pitchers throw eight to nine innings in the playoffs and you have the kind of lineup that they have, it's going to be virtually impossible to beat a team like that in a seven-game series. At between the noms, Greg Harvey with some great stats. Literally after every single sporting event, I love the cut of his job. Hembo obviously keeping us stocked and loaded every day with numbers. We appreciate the hell out of, you know, commentating on the history of the sporting events that we chat about.

Let's go back to the NFL now after week six of the NFL season. a magic happen. Two teams really seemingly separated themselves. Two teams really said that we're the best in the whole damn league. Two teams that we're doing this from the beginning of the end. That'd be the bucks of the courts. Now, we don't have to just talk about them forever. That'd be too much for us to do. It'd be a little biased. What in AJ, if we talked about the Colts all the time. Number one seed in the AFC by all accounts and maybe most complete team in the NFL right now. Okay. So we can talk about them all day, right, AJ? Yeah, we could. We don't want to do that though. We don't want to talk about them all day

because then we'd have to say things like, going to any season, I thought they were going to be good, but I thought they were going to be asked. Colts fans online actually said his team's going to be asked. Danny Dimes being a starting quarterback ever again was something that people would have spit in your face of your take if you were to say Danny Dimes might be in the MVP conversation in 2025

with the Indianapolis Colts. Because we had the opportunity, obviously, with AR, and once again, we were believe ours coming into this season, and we can't believe our eyes whenever we read things about what's happening to AR, whenever he's working out, trying to get better in the building actually attacks his face. Like, that is obviously unfortunate. This guy's been incredible.

We can talk about that all day. Michael Pittman Jr. gets into a fight. Danny Dimes actually jumps in the fight with him. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not doing that. Danny Dimes on a sideline high five. Quentin Nelson playing better football than he's played in a long time. It might just make an appearance in there. Jonathan Taylor is the best running back in the damn league.

Let's go to the leaders, actually, of this entire NFL season thus far. Here's the rushers. Okay, here's the rushers. Jonathan Taylor right now, leading the league in rushing. And we just had the year where Sequin Barclay had what he had with the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl. Top five rushers. at this point. Jonathan Taylor, six hundred and three yards. James Cook, 537 yards.

Bijon Robinson, who's ranked number 19th or something like that, or 13th in running back position in the entire NFL from PFF. That is correct. He's getting really dinged up for fumbling, but not losing fumbles, but he's fumbling. Or at least he did on Sunday night. They're calling this guy the MVP. They're saying he's the best football player in the entire league. Our entire offense runs through on PFF says, uh, middle of the pack, whatever comes to running backs in this entirety. Javante and then Rico Doudo, the RICO Act has been tossed a couple different times. I don't know. even think he's ranked by PFF. I think Rico's doubt it. He was not in their top 16 from Sunday and he

once again had like 200. Yeah, he was not top 16. There's a lot of things happening with PFF right now. They actually had him listed as a tight end, I think, on PFF. Okay, so we don't know if that's true or not, but top five rushers right there. Could be. A. Koush, what are you seeing there? And obviously, we'll do you're in the trenches top five offensive line here in a little bit. What do you see from this? And do you think this is the way to win football game? That's a pretty accurate list right there. Jonathan Taylor's been fantastic. James Cook didn't get a touch in the fourth quarter. Probably need to go a little bit more through him. Bijon, as we've talked about, maybe the MVP, electric player, Javante Williams, they've done a fantastic job revamping their offensive

line and run game. I know they lost this last week. RICO Dowdell has really come on. He's got 200 yards rushing the last two weeks. Incredible. Yeah, it's been fun to watch Rico, and they weren't buckled up, though. Like, I love the way everybody for the Carolina Panthers seemingly speaks. And Bryce Young included. They had a miced up about Bryce Young, whenever they were down 17. He sounded like a 45-year-old pro in there. And his calmness and his matter refactness and he's like I want to say his empathy for his teammates for the moment while also right here's Bryce young while they're down 17 this past weekend stay with me just stay with me it's a long game just stay with me stay with me stay with me I got your back bro hey keep going with me I promise we're in a

good spot here we go here we go music helps let's get it now one at a time NFL crime scoring this where he finished there's always ours this is where we finish let's go fourth quarter this where we finish stay with it we're right where we need to be right Where it needs to be. It's into the end zone for a touchdown and he gives Carolina the lead. Great cause, coach. Hey, hey, ball. Good job, man.

Got your back. Finish us on. Bring you the ball. Let's go. Hey, four minutes, four minutes. Let's go. Four minutes. Let's go.

Four minutes. Hey, we finished right here. They don't touch the ball. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. It's a pass interference. And the pan.

The Panthers just have to kneel it. Let's go! Hell yeah! Best playing in football! Yon takes the knee and the Panthers make a statement. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, sir! Hey, that's what I'm talking about, man.

I love you, bro. Hey! Maybe they got something down there. Maybe they got something down there, especially with the run and what their offensive line's been able to do. Let's go to the top wide receivers thus far as we are week six into the season. Number one, Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's been special. Pooka, obviously.

We heard him give a speech to the team on a sideline. That was incredible. He's micced up stuff inside the NFL on X has been phenomenal. I like that they're getting stuff out there. Now, there's a lot of other people saying, we've been stealing foot for sale. Feel bad for us. George Pickens, obviously, a whole new world out there in Dallas without CD.

In Mecca, Abuka got hurt early for the Tampa Buccaneers. We're obviously monitored that situation. And Jamar Chase, who now has his third quarterback of the season, is at 468. DeButs, what do you see from the top five receivers in the league? Leagues in good hands. When it comes to pass catchers, Seattle, they moved on from D.K., Jackson, Smith, and Jacob,

but he's been unbelievable since coming into the league. Same thing with Puka, moving on with Cooper Cup, gave him the mantle. You got to have, all these are getting great quarterbacks throwing the ball as well. So you're going from Sam Darno, he got Matt Stafford and Dack getting into George Pickens. He's been a great pickup so far. Ibuka, he heard B.A. talking about, hey, if my rookies are ready by Thanksgiving, he came in, hopefully we get him healthy soon. And Jamar Chase's been up here in his top five with what's been going on at the quarterback position.

over there is absolutely tremendous. He will produce regards to who throwing him the ball. So great, great list right here. Let's go to the top five quarterbacks. We want to talk about the leagues in good hands. Speaking of the ball and hands, Matthew Stafford leading the league. Dack Prescott in number two. Sam Darnold with

the Seattle Seahawks. Crazy what's happened for Sam Darnold. Last year with Minnesota, now with Seattle. Baker Mayfield down in Tampa Bay, obviously the picture of picking yourself up and becoming the face of a franchise, both him and Sam Darno, both and Matthew Stafford, I guess, whenever he goes over to L.A. becomes the face of that Rams team.

And then Drake May, the man out of North Carolina who's already on his second head coach and into his second offensive coordinator and a guy who, since the day he got into a Patriots uniform, had Patriots fans, at least the guy that we know is a Patriot fan saying, we got a guy. He's big, he's strong, he's fast, he rounds out of top five. AJ, what do you see from the top five passers in the NFL thus far this NFL season? I think it's cool to see young Drake May crack into this top five. And Matthew Stafford with the longevity that dude has had and how long he has been doing it. but, I mean, could we get Dax some help on defense, man?

Like, Jack is playing very, very good football on a high level, and they just can't seem to stop anybody. And it's like a feel-good story, I feel like, to see Donald and Baker on there playing so well. For whatever reason, it's easy to root for those guys. I concur completely. Let's go to getting to the quarterback. Let's go to Sacks, Top 5 Saxon, Ali.

You got Benito on that Denver Broncos defense that made the Jets look horrendous in London. Byron Young, number 06. Same with Brian Burns. Aiden Hutchinson and Durant's Armstrong. Now, whenever I see these five guys, AQ, you think nightmare, or what are the thoughts on what's happening on the defensive line pass rush side of football? They are nightmares, but I think when you look at Benito and you look at Byron Young, both of those guys benefit from having a good defensive line all the way across. When you look at Benito, he's got Cooper, he's got Zach Allen, he's got all these guys, right? Byron Young has Fisk, he's got vers.

I mean, they got players everywhere. Obviously, Brian Burns, he's got Dexter Lawrence, he's got Abdul Kart, right? All these guys are benefiting from the entire group. They're just the ones making the plays. Okay, now let's talk about more on the defensive side. In the back end, let's go top five picks, top five picks. You got Lloyd with four, Bired with three, Jersive with three, Petrie with three, and then 18 people with two. Okay, now, I don't see all the names on her.

I see Bynum pretty good, and Mackay Blackman, all the other names kind of Laotu is also in there. He's a defensive end, so it feels like those names are a little bit bigger than all the other ones. But what does this mean, D. Bunch? Is this a good start, you think, to the defense on getting their hands on the ball or a bad start? Kind of coming from all over the place. You've got a linebacker right now leading the league and interceptions of Devin Lloyd. And then two kind of free safeties, deep field safeties, getting their hands on the ball. And then Jalen Petrie, who kind of plays all over, but mostly in the slot.

And then obviously a bunch of guys tied at five. So getting their hands on the ball from all over the defense. I like that. I appreciate where we're at. And congrats to all of these guys being top five. Yeah. A lot of guys top five here. That's right.

A lot of guys top five. Intercepting top fives, even though they're top 30 in this particular list. And then let's go to tackle is AJ. Total tackles now. We've got dogs all over to play 66 tackles down there in Miami. There is an upside down there. Bobby Wagner's still doing it in Washington at 65. Cedric Gray, Jamie and Nate Landman.

Great name out of Landman. And obviously, it's been fun to watch him play this year. It feels like we're just learning his story. AJ, what are your thoughts on Bobby Wagner's old ass still doing it? That's so awesome to see Bobby out there. He's still, like, that's the problem. People, when they know that somebody's been around for everyone, they know what age they are, they, like,

instantly you watch it with these weird, like, filtered look. Like, oh, yeah, he's still pretty good for how old he is. No, he's pretty damn good for a football player. He's an awesome linebacker in the NFL no matter what age he is. And I'll tell you what, Landman, he's quietly just racking up the stats over there in L.A. Jordan Brooks, let's go to one half of the hammer. Dad, Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino. Jordan Brooks, all air to play, Scott, knows for a ball.

absolute leader on the defense side of the football probably the whole leader on the entire team he makes tackle every time he gets near a guy well the leaders need to get it right because i've heard there's people being late to things that the leaders are putting together he'll be taking the podium today actually okay i'm excited to hear what he is this is you know a lot of lot of they're facing a lot of offensive snaps if you pop that list up again it's the one list i think stands out from the other ones where you see three teams on here the dolphins the titans the jets where it's like yeah So, yes. Teams are only scored. You're saying stats are a little misleading? No, no, I'm not saying it's misleading. You're saying, well, it's easy to get 66. That was whenever you're on the field, 4,000 X the other team.

No, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's just one of those lists that sometimes you don't want to be on. And then even with the passing, you don't necessarily want to be. You know, you have a great passer, obviously, but you don't want to be on that list. A lot of times you want to be running that ball out, winning a game, four-minute drives. But can't be misleading. Okay, and last stat, this might be misleading as well because it's our first time really giving it. kickoffs and punts only, not turnovers, drive start average, basically. After a return is when the offense gets the ball.

The Washington commanders average the 32.2 yard line after every single time they get the ball. So if it's a kick or a punt, a kickoff or a punt, their return averaging, getting them to the 32.2 yard line, that's a great drive start. And then after the kick, you know, which would be the defensive drive start, when the defense takes the field, the New York Giants defense currently jogging onto the field average 24-yard line start, which is, that's less than a touchback. used to be last year, whenever it was at the 25 or two years ago, whenever it was at the 25. That's an incredible stuff. You know, the kickoff's a big deal now. Okay, they're a big deal now. You either got somebody that can do them or you don't. And if you don't, you can get punished. You kick it out of bounds. It's 40. Touchbacks 35. You kind of have to cover.

These teams have been doing well on special teams. And some of these teams haven't been doing well the rest of the way. So maybe they need to lift up and play to the level of their special team. It's getting to play. Joining us now is a man who's coaching a special team in a special place that hasn't been known for the sport that they are currently playing great at in a long long long time maybe ever ladies gentlemen head coach of the number three ranked team in the united states of america the indiana hoosier football team kurt signetty yeah coach how you doing pison doing thank you for joining us today i know you got a lot going on i know you have a lot on your plate obviously whenever you win you know the expectations grow and it's your job to make sure everybody knows

that we're just on to the next week. Now, on that note, that winning in Oregon felt good for you and the boys? I mean, obviously with the conversation last year about Ohio State in Notre Dame, you had to face it head on multiple times. That win in Oregon was something like a weight off your guys' shoulders, you think,

or was there a sense of excitement about we know we can do this and we finally did? Is that a true statement or no? Well, I think it was a very challenge. You know, that we prepared what we were. The game and a great road, I mean, Oregon, a football team, which does a great player. You know, it was deployed. Veterans team, one of the championship, played football.

And it was a football game. It was. Hey, coach, we have to call you back. We have to call you back. We have to reconnect because the audio was dropping out on our side. Not on your side. It's our fault. for that. What happened there? I mean, that was, we didn't even get half to wear, no,

we didn't mean, normally that thing kind of corrects its course, you know, that kind of starts doing itself and starts figuring it out. It got worse almost as he was talking. He was in his bag, too. You see the hair? Oh yeah. Looks like. Oh my God, yeah, there was good. It was really, that was phenomenal. Now, I do believe there was a connection thing at the beginning, and then obviously we see him and we want to get started. So that's on us for maybe rushing it before the audio was completely put together. But what their team has been doing, AJ, You could see how maybe the boys on a flight back, four hours, five-hour flight back. There's probably some shit talking happened amongst the boys about we knew this was possible.

And I think they did. And I think I did as well because I've seen them because I'm here in Indianapolis. I don't know if a lot of people know this Indiana team, AJ. Legit. I don't think that's the case. No, they don't. And you're right. I mean, you picked them.

You definitely felt this before the game. But yeah, it's like anything else. Like people, casual fans, you've got to prove it over and over and over. again, that you are that team that deserves to be in this kind of situation. I think winning a game on the road like this in Oregon, that puts you on the map and people need to know you're legit. Longest home winning streak because of Georgia and Washington losing at home in the weeks before that.

And Otson's supposed to be impossible place to play. It is an impossible place to play. The travel, the sound, everything about it is a real home field advantage. I thought it not being a night game, a little bit different. I thought that potentially a little bit different. But I think they have to play in a lot of these games because obviously West Coast three hours ahead. So did they get the best of Autson? I think so. And did they get the best team inversions of themselves? I think so. For them, in the biggest moment, they showed up

and played their best ball. I think that's huge for a team's confidence. Huge. You go to a hostile environment like that. Because everybody outside of the building, nobody believed in them. We saw, obviously, the panel who picked the games, but that was pretty much consistent outside watching the game. So to go in there and make plays, and it starts with your big-time players. Sometimes in these type of games, just your top dog or one of your dogs just need to make a big time play and everybody else knows, all right, we're here and we're here to win it. And then it's nothing like that. Those are probably one of the top two or three things you miss as a former player, like those trips back home, you know, going into somebody else's

place, kicking there else, getting on the plane and having that trip. The vibes are just unmatched. So I don't know if there's a connection issue still. If Coach Signetti joins us again, we will certainly bring him back in. We can't wait to catch up with him. We believe in him. We love him. And also, this state loves him. This is a football state. You know, when Peyton got here, I've been sitting there. Allergy season.

Yeah, but I've been seeing up. You have. Got to do both, unfortunately. What, the allergy, clarendin type thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. See? Every day.

Can't miss days either. Oh, I've been half asses. Me too. I've been seeing the, we got C in here. We got vitamin C dummies. I get about, I take about 10 of them every time I come in on Friday. Boom. So you're once a week and try to make up for the rest of the weeks.

I'm every day in here walking. See? See? And I'm doing it. So I feel like I'm putting up a good defense system. You know, I'm putting up a good battle for this. Happens to everybody that's in this world every single fall. And I assume it happens to everybody on Earth as well. I'm just talking about the TV world.

So whenever you see people on TV or you hear them talking, you can hear it. Just know that they're going through it right now. And they are very excited for that to be done. Yes. And when it's done, it's clear sailing for the rest of the season. So it's like, when's it going to get you? are not going to get you and then we start reading about these vitamin C gummies and it's like hold the phone

we don't have to you need it sounds like we don't we don't have to get it we can just battle every single day with these gummies instead what sounds like is I didn't know there was another tag team partner of this entire thing yeah I mean we're getting in the point now where we're going to start these 75s are going to go away and we're going to be start you know we're going to wake up and it's going to be frost on the ground and the high is going to only be 55 60 you get whether you have allergies or not you got to take them because that ragweed does not quit and that pollen does not quit and it's coming This is me getting old, though, too.

I never would have worried about this ever in my life, but now I'm an old man. Just wait until you start sending McKinsey back and forth from school. Oh, yeah. It's coming old. Oh, yeah. All get non-stop. Petriush.

Everybody's immune system. Everybody's immune system gets better than. Heard immunity. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I did hear some stuff about it. Then it was kind of quickly.

But I do remember herd immunity is a strong, because I like to be part of a hurt. You know, I like, we all do. Kind of this thing together. Yeah. Same crime. Like we just want to Stanley. up down there right before the thing.

We are going to get through this again. We need to see up, and I didn't know we need the other thing. We need the other thing to be as readily available as the Cs are. Let's go and get on it. Can we buy that over the counter? No. I thought you could only buy one per day. Well, that might be it because you know you get some of these scumbags out there who crushed out of the pills and cook meth with it.

But you're allegorous, you're Clarendons, you know, that kind of stuff. You get on it. Those things go boom, boom. They go boom, boom, big time. That's why you've got to have your ID readily available. when you go to your local CVS. Or when DoorDash arrives. Exactly.

Hey, we need to check your ID. Hey, you fucking scumbagging with this? No? Okay, let me see your ID. We scan that. You'll be good. It's pretty wild what they,

these chemists, these meth chemists have been able to create into things. Yeah? Like, there's just the weirdest things you go to buy at a store and they'll be like, what are we talking about?

They're like, some of these psychos. Sudafed is locked up now. You can barely get Sudafed. Man. That's meth. It takes a lot breaking. Have you ever been, obviously out here in Indiana,

yeah, bingo. Out here in Indiana, you know, I don't know in Pittsburgh, there's a lot of meth. I don't think there was a lot of meth in Pittsburgh, at least from my understanding. I think it was other drugs of choices that were kind of being used. Out here in Indiana, though, there is, you know, country a little bit more methy. Oh, yeah. You know, so my first couple years out here, you just hear about something just blowing up. And it's like, what, what was it?

Like a gas leak or something? You're like, well, kind of, I guess, yes. Guy named Jackson, the rest of peace. He was cooking up some real shit. He had all this stuff, and that thing just blew up. And it's like right in the middle of, like, a town. them. They turn these houses into these entire kind of meth shops and they're

just kind of chasing it for a bit. That's scary stuff. So we need the meth we need the ingredients to meth but need not make meth. Correct. Or a lot of ID-in. We're going to have to do a lot of ID checking. We're going to get through football season though with perfect voices. I mean I already started having so I guess

I'm already being defeated potentially. But you're back though. Look at that. Just a quick and you're back. You're right. You're right. Yeah. So you know. How about Saturday morning and Eugene I woke up and it was not there and I was like whoa what why is this happening out of nowhere I got in um I watched Kenny Chesney before one of his shows he had like uh uh like one of those

NyQuil steamers um vaporizer thing yeah like a vaporizer and he like was like breathing that air in you know and I was like well this is a good idea because that's probably he goes I have no idea if it works I just been doing it for like 20 years or whatever I'm like sounds a good idea so I remember that for that moment Saturday morning I wake up in Eugene Gene, nothing. I'm like, whoa, I don't have a cough. I don't have any. I don't feel sick. Where did you go? Like, where have you been? I've just been talking a regular amount. I turned on that vaporizer thing, and I was just hoffing that thing for like an hour and a half straight, just down in this stuff. Water

dripping off face on to close. Sitting there doing notes, shooting myself in the face with a still lost my voice. I don't know if it works 100% of the time. It's kind of the worry. We got to beat this fall, though. We will beat this fall. Did we beat the technical problems? Never did. No. Hey, I'll tell you what. Signate is too electric. You can't just put a fucking microphone in front of them. Expect it not to pop out.

On that note, let's move along some takeaways. Takeaways can't have Signetti next to any electronic equipment because he's too damn electric. He'll pop out all the systems. That's what we just learned. Bingo. I'll tell you, I've never been more sure of an Indiana Hoosier football run than I am now. Modern technology can't handle Signetti.

That sounds like a problem for everybody on the football field. Let's do some takeaways, shall we? week six of the NFL season. Akews joins us every single Wednesday, and we're thankful for him. What day is it, Akew? It's Wednesday. It's Humpty. Humpty.

A bit bit. Humpty. Guy Tours Meniscus standing up off the couch yesterday. Today, he will tell us his top takeaways from week six of the NFL season. Mile high mallers. Let's talk about this Broncos defense. Nine sacks from this last week. Jeez.

Net negative passing yards and pressured on 50% of the rush. Let's watch. Zach Allen. Wow. Just push, pull, gets the pressure. By the way, the more I watch the film, Zach Allen's a guy that's popping off this tape, making this whole thing go.

Let's watch this one right here. He's going to slant inside. Take two. Franklin Myers comes around, causes the pressure. He doesn't make the play, but guess who does? Cooper, Jonathan Cooper off the edge. Wow, that's a good name.

Hey, I'm happy you pulled that because you said, guess who it was? We did not know. I looked around the room. I saw a lot of people that did not know, AJ. Benito. I was waiting for. That was waiting for it. Oh, okay, I like that.

Hey, AJ, you'll like this. check out this coffee house stunt right here. What's a coffee house, number 40 fakes like he doesn't, comes around, causes the pressure. Look at Zach Allen again. Gets his hands on the football. Big Zach Allen's having a monster year. And then, oh, Olu Fashano, hey, let's try and block this freak off the edge Nick Benito. Guess what?

Get out of your stance. Nope. Here he goes. Look at that get off right around the point. I mean, these guys were just getting, I mean, causing havoc all game long. Vance Joseph, D-Corpsator, been a head coach before. A lot of people assume he's going to be a head coach again. He's been around a long, long time.

Now, he's getting taken care of by the Walton family that owns the Broncos. And we thought that could have been an advantage for Sean Payton and maybe why he chose to go to Denver is because there is no salary cap for how much you can pay the coaches. So you can keep a great staff around if they don't want to go on to be head coaches. Vance has been there for a while now. And they've been great for a long time. I don't think they are the team we need to be putting in London games, okay, to introduce our sport to another group.

But they have been dominant for a long time with Vance back there. What is it about it? Obviously, the players are great. What is it about that scheme that makes it so damn great? I mean, in my opinion, coaches are great, but you got to start, it always starts with the players. Because you have the scheme, but these guys being pros, being able to go out there and execute it and adjust on the fly and get that shit done. And on the flip side of that, like, just watch it Justin Fields. And I know this was his worst game by far. Could anybody have played quarterback behind?

Like, was it more the defense or the offensive line just shit in the bed as well? There are lines actually been decent this year, but I mean, just look what they're doing. I mean, that push-pull on the first play by Zach, he was dominant in this game. He jumped off the tape. I actually called JJ. I'm like, why did the Cardinals not resign him? He was like a couple of injuries, a couple things didn't happen. But then Vance gets him.

But here's what's interesting about Vance is he's always been known as a pressure guy. He's sending cover zero from anywhere on the field. And now he has four really good pass rushes, and he doesn't need to do that every play. Good cover guys, too. What's the second takeaway from Week 6-A-Q-Q? Nick Herbig reeks havoc What up, Ouse? Herbig's a weapon. His hands, too, looks

spectacular from the highlights we saw. Really good, and we got a couple of those highlights. Let's take a look here. This is the first time you've had all three pass rushers together. Watt, Highsmith, and Herbig, and they lined him up over the center right there, and let's go to the next one. Should have been the first down! Oh, that's saying PFF. That was a good play by him, actually. Watch him beat the center here. Watch us.

Boom, over top of the center. He's gone. Hit on the quarterback. Oh, David just got out quick. I was going to say football's gone, too. Yeah, that's just a good scheme. Next time. Next play, lines up over the guard. So they're lining him up all over the place,

what they're not doing with the other ends. Over the guard, boom, quick beat outside. Again, hit on the quarterback. Again, to pass, completed, but he's doing his job. First time. I'm showing the versatility here. Very BFF of you. Yeah, well, now let's show him on the edge here.

Let's get to the edge. Watch this inside move. Watch him lift with his inside hand. Boom, lift up, underneath. Okay, there goes. That's a good play. Big one. He had a lot of good place.

He did. He did. we got another one we got another one let's watch them here outside not go inside go outside run around another sack herbig is a dog okay what you just did was lay out the argument exactly for pff okay so let me get this straight we're showing highlights players but they're still the past is getting off it's drop and everything's happening about that i don't know that was the impossible pff guy on the right says well see then he follows up with saying well yeah that's why we gave herbig 94.8 pff rating he had this weekend because everything you just said and you can win an assignment you

can win an assignment, right? And then... The difference is he's getting a stat. That's still a hit on the quarterback. Miles Garrett was nowhere near the quarterback. They literally kept him out of the game plan. He was three guys to him, chipping, sliding two. He wasn't even getting near the quarterback. Yeah, but, you know, that's because

he was winning his assignment. Yeah, since we're here, do you know what his pass rush win rate percentage was, or no? Is it ESPN or PFF? Which one we ask? Both of them use shitty stats. So, I mean... These stats matter.

Yeah, stats matter. All I know is to take you. Holy shit, man. I would like to say this. HEMBO stats are amazing. We love them. We think stats do have a good purpose. Yeah, and Hempbo still does send us some stuff sometimes like,

okay, dude, that's not real. Yeah, and we don't tell him that, but we should maybe let him know more often that, hey, some of these, like, we can't be doing it. The kid knows. Yesterday I started thinking about this because some of the stats came over, and Hempbo's phenomenal. He's won awards for everything that he's done.

incredible for us, very nice to us. And he sends us stats to make us much better. It's not just us. He makes a lot of people better on TV. But like stats people have become like lawyers. Like lawyers do stuff that you have to hire a lawyer to read what the other lawyer did. They keep each other employed, okay?

They might be against each other in this particular case, but you're gonna have to hire a lawyer to read what this lawyer said. It's like kind of ruined this game. Stats people, it's getting to the point where you're gonna have to hire a stats person to break down what stat is being said by the stat person.

So now stat people are keeping stat people employed because it's both ends, giving them and breaking them down. And I respect the hustle. I certainly do. But any of the ones that I don't want to understand, I'm out on. The acronyms get me. The EPA one is just, I don't fully. Everyone just assumes they know what they're talking about too.

I feel like no one wants to say, hey, I don't want to sound dumb, but what does that mean? And I think people just act like they know what it is and not many people know what they're talking about. Yeah, and we would like to say, once again, to the stats community. There's a lot of positives that have come to our sport via the stats community. We're very thankful. But sometimes, just like we, sometimes they're just like us, you go a little bit too far. Sure. And we just need to abuse laser restriction.

You're getting the public restriction done now. Chris Long is going in. J.J. Watt, very passionately doing this thing. A.J. Hawk, even. Guy on the right, I think, made a good he tweeted. He tweeted us. I don't know if he was a former scout. His name is Trevor Sycamma. okay Trevor Sycambe he's Tampa Bay Trey so he's down there to Bay we got a lot of respect for Tampa Bay Trey

he said Pat first love the show y'all changed the game okay appreciate the guy showing a full clip of our show for context have to come on anytime you all want to have me talk grades process transparency

guy on right we might do that actually that would be a fun little game and it feels like Tampa Bay Trey guy on right probably the right guy to do it because at least he gave a full actual coherent answer

like hey this was actually complimented a Steelers offense as opposed to a shot at T.J. Watt or anything like that. So I respect it. No, I think it was wrong, but we still... Sure. We still respect. Agreed, disagree.

All right, what's the last takeaway? Is that what it is? Stats are coming under fire right now? No, it's... Scada. Boom! Favorite one of the week. And that's...

This guy right here, you don't need stats. You don't need stats for this guy. You know why? All you got do is watch this tape. Let's take a look at him. Take this inside hand off, downhill. Look at Cooper DeGine. Come over to the top.

Boom! fall down. Every single person that runs into him hits the ground on their back. Let's look at the next one. All-Pro Zack Bond. You see him in the middle of field. Over the top. Take the pitch. Get downhill. Don't go out of bounds. Find somebody. Throw his ass on the ground.

And then the last one. Yeah, you can't measure heart. Gets hit behind the line and scrimm is down on the goal line. Keep your feet moving. Strain. Get in the end zone. Never goes down. Never die attitude. AJ, what are your thoughts on Scada Boom? I mean, I love the dude. I absolutely love why. He's a true

Like, he showed that to kids. Show that to every kid. Hey, you think you're playing hard. You think you're running hard. This is what running hard is. This guy is getting the most out of every single time he touches the ball. And what's awesome, when he doesn't have the ball, he's blasting dudes. He's a great blocker as well.

And obviously, he's got to have been a real, like, spark plug for that whole organization, I feel like right. And we're all interested to see if he can maintain this. You know, like in college, it was spectacular. Yeah. Juko's awesome. High school, incredible. Then the question was, can he do this in the NFL? We, after seeing the size of his head in the way he operates and getting a chance to learn about him,

we assumed it would have success. He is having massive success, and he's playing the exact same way he has played on every football field his entire life. Guys might be bigger, guys might be faster. There might be more lights on him right now, but he's playing the same exact way. Does it last? Can it last? We hope so. We fucking hope so. It can. It is awesome football debuts.

Low man wins the football. He's built, you know, like I forget. which running back it was maybe yesterday AJ was talking about, but like those Mike Turner type built running backs, those are the worst backs to try to tackle it because they have built their leverage. He is like a Mike All-Stop and one of our

former teammates, Amad Bradshaw, just hybrid right into one and he plays his ass off. But yeah, I'm a little concerned about his long jump. Well, also, Jackson DART too is getting in on the action. He's just he's just doffining. He just did a dolphin. Just starting

quarterback in the NFL, run send it just head first into another guy's head and then him and scataboo head butt each other all the time yeah helmets on and helmets off it's like what a perfect duo for table we're excited about it and that was scatter boom thank you for your takeaways our three will be on the other side digitally we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living we'll see you tomorrow be a friend tell friends something nice and i change your life goodbye I think we really hit it. Boom. Nailed it.

There was a good takeaway. Thank you. Thank you. Take away. Did you guys see Chuck Pagano was talking to the media? Certainly. I didn't get a chance to hear at all or listen to it all, but I'm sure there's... What?

Is he moving up? What do you mean moving up? Is he taking over the defense? Whoa. Geez. We don't know, but there's a lot of people talking about that in this Thunderdome over the last couple of weeks. It's like, holy shit. What if Chuck Pagano is fucking calling place?

it in just a matter of time he goes from sitting on our show you know talking about waffling a little bit and what happens whenever he goes home sweet miss tina and then all of a sudden he's calling defense for the Baltimore Ravens who are still in it okay they have been absolute ass terrible coming out of the by week though there's a chance they can still go on a run and they're going to need their defense to get a lot better last year week 10 I think they had one of the worst defenses in the league then they were able to turn around down the long haul there and it's like is this the team that's going to be able to do the same thing or the Baltimore Ravens just wasting a year here.

Is this just a wasted year? Like the Niners last year, wasted year, just because of injuries and things that don't go your way. The Ravens have the top seven highest paid guys not playing in one game in the first five weeks of the season. That sucks. I mean, that's fucking sucks. Six or seven guys? What do we remember?

Top seven highest paid guys. This is how our team's going to be built. We're going to, we're going to, geez, that thing really came on nice. How you doing, Love? Love. Here's our here's how we're going to build our team okay here's our highest paid guy obviously we want him to have success here's our second highest paid guy we want him to feed into this we want to take it seventh highest paid guys the most important guys to your roster literally that decision has been made

financially that this is what you're going to focus on all of them out so now you just move this up it's like this early to have that much bad luck whenever it comes in you lose five out of the top seven highest paid guys it's a story you lose four out of the top seven highest paid guys three it's a huge story. Seven guys all out at the same time. It's like football got just seemingly not on the Raven side this year, AJ. They got time, though. I mean, they don't

have much time, but they have time. They can turn it around for sure. Especially if Chuck Shotter, given it. Yeah. Bingo. Belgian Pretzel. They only have five AFC North games left. They're going to need Steelers to do something. Joe Flacko better not get hot.

No. Let's get a hammer. Don. Time. Tomon seems real worried about Flacco. I don't love that, do you? He was real worried about him last year, too. I think you guys won, right? Or no, did we? I mean, that was the first time Colts won in 13 years against Steelers, I believe. Oh, that was last year. He was a little worried last year about it. And now he was all of a sudden worried about it. He was right. He's a smart coach. He's a smart guy, but I don't like him acting like, we haven't beat Joe Flacco in the playoffs like six times and stuff.

Come on. Let's just go on. You're still in your old Bill Belichick, though. He's just pumping up the opposite. We are on Cincinnati. That is correct. So, yeah. His playoff wins weren't on Thursday. Oh, and six against the division on Thursday night. Is that what you said? Yeah, that is correct. And all it tells me is we shouldn't be playing football games on Thursdays.

Yeah, certainly for the Pittsburgh Steelers, you're thinking that. And if you're the Cincinnati Bengals, you go, hey, these guys suck on Thursdays. Yeah. But is this a different year because Aaron's there? Yeah. Yes. Jalen's there on the other side. Remember, Jalen on the pivot said, hey, once I learned why Aaron's doing all this, I was all in.

I was a boy, because we're kind of seeing it the same way. It's like they got a lot of spite seemingly on that team over there. Thursday night, Sunday. Pretty quiet, too, hasn't it? It's been pretty quiet out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It has. Very much, I think. Don't you think nationally especially, it's definitely been quiet with them, how they started off and how well they've played? Kind of locked in. You know, in these games that they're playing very well, obviously, we're talking about. Thursday night, primetime game, they put a drumming on the Cincinnati Bengals. Everybody starts talking about Steelers. They moved to five and one, if that's the case. Steelers are really good football team, and they just have not gotten the attention because it doesn't look pretty. It's muddied up. It's gritty. It's extra. O-line package. It's nothing's pretty and then they're hitting short-pass, short-pass, short-pass.

Every once in a while he hits the little chunk play, but because it's not pretty, it's not getting the national attention. And Aaron Rogers is also ranked like the 38th quarterback, too. So I think that's... Wait, you're saying PFF? Come on. 39, actually. 39? How many teams are playing?

What leagues? They brought in the UXFL? Yeah, the U.S.S. Can be real. 39. UXFL. That should be the name, bro. I saw Rapine. What's his name? Oh, Rapoli?

Rapole. There it is. I saw Rapul. I said Rapina. World champion. She may be an investor. We don't know. We don't know.

We don't know. We're not a cent. Rapole. Yeah, Mike Rapoli. Rapoli said, hey, we're going to work on a Brandon and whatever. We helped you, brother. It should be UXFL. Boom.

Done. Put the ox in football, bro. That's what we need. We need the UXFL to do this thing. 39th, you said, is Aaron Rogers? Yeah, I looked it up this morning. What? He has been absolutely perfect, though, for this team.

Like, has it been flat. actually know, but he's been so smart and does the right thing with the ball almost every single time. And then, yes, when you need those three-step shot plays, he's been perfect on it. He has been the absolute perfect quarterback so far. Who's behind him? Who's ranked behind him then? The guy

right behind him was Mason, Rudolph. How many were qualifiers? Yeah. I don't know how many qualifiers were. So like 39 out. What's the denominator? You know, the denominator. I'll pull it up. How many backup quarterbacks have we even had? So Browning, Carson,

wins. Browning was ahead of him at one point in their rankings. Jacobi's definitely ahead of him, I bet. Cooper Cush. Hey, Jacobia, a good game. If Cooper Cush is in front of him, then someone he had a pretty good game on Sunday. He was like 15 for 40 something.

Snoop. Yeah, but, but, blah, blah, blah, but his assignments. No, you're right. He's a son. Three step. Yeah, you're right. Did Dylan Gabriel have a higher rating than he did on Sunday? I mean, there's a chance.

Once again, because hurt! He, you know, he had perfect right here. And then ball elevated above shoulder. Yep. Wasn't sloppy down here. It was up here. No interceptions. And then as he scanned, he seemingly went from his proper progressions, which once again,

PFF would not know. Two points, two points. Yep, exactly. Two point two. And then actually got to the four one time, which is bonus ball. Yep. You know that? I think it was fine.

And then his motion was good transfer of weight. Yep. So he went to his fourth progression bonus ball, good transfer of weight. Good transfer weight, good form. It was an incomplete, but it could have been caught. If it's a completion, it's a two times multiplier. Well, it was an incompletion, so they missed out on that, and it actually made it sound whenever the ball was dropped.

Because the ball was actually on fire after all of those things happened. And then the ball drops and hits the ground. So his assignment, actually, we saw all of it. Dylan Gabriel was actually 44th. Okay, so maybe what I just said wasn't about Dylan Gabriel. That was about another quarter of it. You know, there, I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks. Who's one? Who's number one?

Who's number one? Sam Dornel. Who's number 50? Cam Ward. Cam Ward, yes. Where's Flacco? Joey Flacco is currently 32nd. Oh, so he's out playing Rogers? Anthony Richardson, 31. Good call.

Those knees. When he came in the game and took those knees. Well, he threw a completion to himself. Yeah. Should be won. C.J. Stride is 30th. Where's Drake May? I hope he better not be on this list.

Drake's number five. Shit. Get them off. Can we scroll up or no? It's two screenshots, two separate screenshots. Oh, there is. Sam Donald's number one. Here we go.

Here's the tops. Sam Donald number one, Marcus Marriota. He played well. Okay. Holy shit. Drake May's number five overall, dude. Yeah, get him off. Because, I mean, Davis Mills is better than him.

I don't know why he's ahead of him. Doug E. Mills is a player. Obviously, he's better and Josh. Is this real? Like, are we really, yeah, whatever. What's that? This is real, bro. What do you mean?

Connor, this is really, he's a rankings, bro. You got number five-quarterback. I'm a huge fan. I am. Number five? BTT. Yeah, no, I'm a big BTT. Yeah, no, I like it.

All right. Those are big, Tom, throws. Good luck to everybody. Good luck to everybody being better. And hopefully the PFF overlords will see you as a success story in your assignments, as opposed to a failure in your assignments. J.J. Watt was the best of all time, they said. and he hates him.

That was crazy. He got real upset. Oh, yeah, big time. He got super duper upset. I mean, Davis Mills, if he doesn't get a $250 million contract should sue the NFL. So. All right, let's go,

let's do our top five offensive lines, shall we see? We don't know what PFF saying, but we do know what's coming from the mind of the man behind in the trenches with AQ Shipley. Top five, performing offensive lines out of week six. Number five, wow. The Chicago Bears. Whoa, what did they do?

Let's take a look at Darnel Wright. Their big right tackle, if you remember a couple years ago when we did the draft special, I was demonstrating Darno right right there. Top 10 pick out of Tennessee pulls around, but check it out. Zakias misses his pin block right there. Now watch Darnow.

Put it back on, Zakias, back up underneath. Darnel still gets the block, and this was big time to get the big run in the fourth quarter to seal it, to get down, run the clock down, kick the game winner. So left-handed, stiff arm to a guy's chest just to make up for a buddy who missed a block. And then let me get down field a little bit.

Let me slow you down and then let me bury you out of the play with a little bit of a hold, but they're not going to call it so it's a touchdown. That's exactly right. Not a touchdown, but a success. Successful play. He's fantastic, and he was fantastic this whole game. They have been waiting for him to show up like this,

and he really did this week. All right, who's number four performing offensive line coming out of week six? Whoa! Los Angeles Chargers. Ran for 124 yards at 6. nine yards per clip. Let's take a look at the left side. See this little tight end wing formation?

Then that's a wide receiver. Trey Harris out there. And they are setting it up like they're running downhill. You get a 6-1 defense. Everyone piled inside. They think it's downhill run. Nope, let's toss it. Is that one thing about?

That's a big gaping hole. That's a lot of meat out there, AJ. What are you going to do? It is. If you run that back, A.Q, they've had to practice. Look at this left tackle. How does he not step on the tight right there? They've had to get stepped on and stomped on, and that would ruin the whole play.

They have such tight splits in their – look at that footwork. So they motioned Trey Harris down because they had run duo, duo, and they made it look like they were just going to Z-peel. That's what that's called. They Z-peel run duo, and then super tight splits. All you have to do, they call this a gang on the outside. Everybody's working in poetry in motion with those three guys. Back, back, back, back.

You got set an edge on all four guys? What are you doing? Well, unfortunately, though, they take – they took a lot of our power with them. We need a quarter to go on their outside in and chop all of that down and take three people out and create a pile and they can't do it anymore. Yeah, if you run it back to the beginning, it's exactly what AJ is talking about, 26 out here.

Why he needs to run right at 9's outside knee and just create a pile right there and then let everybody run inside. I mean, I don't know if it would help on this play. What was this? Third and short, I'm assuming. Third one, yeah, third and one. So like you said, thinking it's going to be a short inside play

getting out to the edge. But yeah, with no power like that, we just will extend those holes. wider, wider. What do you want for a 142 or something? Vidal? 124, 18 for 124, 6.9 per clip. Hell of them.

They got it set up over there. They got injuries. They're just continuing to roll. Is Harbaugh find it? You know what they did? What's that? They went fullback again this week. Remember early in the year?

It was all, hey, let's showcase Herbert. Let's pass, pass, pass. They got back playing fullback, tight end, all the stuff this week. They played the Dolphins, too. That didn't hurt. Well, dolphins are certainly making superstars out of other players, and we appreciate that. The number of three offensive line?

I don't know how this works. Indianapolis Colts are the best offensive line cumulative for the year, but for this week, number three. Okay, so best offense, I like that. So coming out of another big-time win, obviously a shootout against the Arizona Cardinals, what you were on the call for. You have the number three, not number one. I'm intrigued to see why they're doing so well and why they're not one.

They got one guy in this group that's a little bit below par amongst the rest of the group. The other four have been playing fantastic, but let's take a look at the left side. These guys are fantastic. Raymond, let's watch his downblock. The footwork is impeccable. Watch him keep the edge and look at Quentin Nelson. in space. Rumbling, bumbling. Boom. Jonathan Taylor is fantastic. Hey, leads the league in rushing. Obviously, the Colts offensive lines

doing well. Danny Diamond's putting him in the right positions, and Quentin Nelson's been moving a lot more. Isn't that kind of what you've been noticing? A lot more pulls. He's pulling across the formation and your power schemes, your counter schemes and all that stuff, and they're getting a lot more of this stuff right now. Pin and pull, and they love what Tyler Warren's doing on the edge. Yeah, Tyler Warren's special. They got them lined up absolutely everywhere. So obviously like this play, is there any other great plays of this offensive line do we need to see? Indianapolis goals? Yeah.

Yeah, I think I put one on my Twitter. Did you? Yeah. Oh, okay. Let's take a look at Quentin Nelson, if we can pull this up somehow in the back there. What, on your Twitter? Yeah, off my ass. You need to watch posting football clips on your ex-bril.

Oh, yeah? I don't know how much you think this umbrella. Good luck, you, you know. Don't show me down. Don't do it. Don't do it. I don't know. Let's not do it. Let's not do it. I don't know how far the licensee kind of goes to. Remember what we used to talk about?

Let me target lock right there Target locked Don't spin Yeah I got Oh yes That should be illegal Safety Who's that

Quentin Nelson again Against who Baron Browning Pretty good defensive end Boom He was so happy there I assume He got another one too Tough time to spin

He had one going outside And then he has another one Later in the game where he goes inside And gets a nose guard I mean he is just wrecking ball I'll talk about this with Quentin Nelson I've said it before noted, at least should be noted again.

Ryan Kelly was the OG in the offensive line room. He was the center, normally the leader of the group anyway. So the facts that he was around the longest and he was the center. I think he was ipso facto, the leader of the group. He leaves, go to the Vikings. We love Ryan Kelly. Very thankful for everything Ryan Kelly did to Indianapolis. His family is incredible.

I think Quentin Nelson felt a little bit more onus to be a leader and a vocal leader. It's been fun watching him take on that role. They've released a lot of micdups, and I think it's getting him back into enjoying ball again. Is it the fact that he has a quarterback that understands what the hell he's doing for maybe the first time and a long time in his career? Definitely. But he's chasing the ball down again. That was like early in his career. He's the first person with everybody. He's first person with everybody. He's all over the place. He's special. Glenn knows and his special talent.

Let's also mention he was the number one rated guard by PFF this week and Tanner Bornellini. See? The center was the number one rated center. It is a part of the problem. I just saw somebody sent me a picture of it and I saw it, so I had to bring it up. And that was a scouter or a GM. You see, we're thinking about pay. We got to continue to have these conversations. Listen, sometimes you've got to have awkward conversations with people. That's right. Uncomfortable if you.

You're right. Boom, there it is. Sometimes you've got to have uncomfortable conversations with people who maybe don't want to listen. Maybe whenever they hear it, they'll be better for it. That's what's happening with PFF as we speak. Yeah. Let's go to the number two offensive line coming out of week six. Atlanta Falcons, I've been talking about these guys for a long time.

You really have. You have loved the Atlanta Falcons. Why are they on this week? First of all, Chris Lindstrom might be the best right garden football. He's fantastic. Elijah Wilkinson filling in at right tackle for Caleb McGarry. He handled Joey Bosa all game long. Let's watch these three in the middle.

Poetry in motion. Combo up to the second level. Joop, juke, juke, see you later, boys. 81 yards. Bejohn Robinson had 19 for 170 at 8.9 and a touchdown. The Falcons had 210 yards rushing. Guy almost takes him out of bounds. Normally that you go out of bounds there.

Him keeping his balance. He's staying in is outrageous. That was unbelievable. I wish Bishop would just dive and just pushed him out of balance, but you could see Bijon keeping his balance. It's kind of going. Strong. Bajon, Bajon, however we're going to call it.

AQ, I'm not sure if you notice, but we actually call this 28 Blunt. This is a weak side. I was that zone here. Did you know that, AQ? What did you call it from your tree? We called it blunt as well. Okay. Yeah, and if it's further inside, we call it 24 Blunt.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because the way the holes go, obviously, four's inside, outside. And we're talking about weak side, outside zone here. You nailed it? Yeah, well, we nailed it. You see the single block on the front side? Oh, I certainly did. You see that?

You see the slip block on the back side? You see what I'm saying? There was a little slippy-wooed either. We saw it all, didn't we, did we? But we would talk about this for two days now. You're kind of slow, a little late to the party almost, so it's 28. And I see how you're using my man, Bruce Arian's term, so that's where we got it from. What?

That's where we got it from. Bruce who? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Who's the number one performing offensive line coming out of week six of the NFL season? The Carolina Panthers! How did he go to you and Gilbert? So I love this play. This is called Jab Duo.

You are going to run a play to the left, but you are going to sell like you're running it to the right. So watch. the quarterback open up to the right over the top ball handling. We're going to bring 87 back across as a fullback essentially. Let's watch this combo between left tackle, left guard. That's Kenny Clark they're going against. They just took them 12 yards and put them on the ground.

We can run that back one more time. Let's watch left tackle, left guard. Damien Lewis and Big Icky, their former first round pick a tackle. Let's watch this. Watch this. Wait, wait for the motion. Look at that call. That's Kenny Clark. That's Kenny Clark. Jerry brought him in to stop the run. Can you guys run through that?

No, I'd like to get. guys that we got up there. We had Maka, we don't have Maka, we tie, we don't win, so what the fuck, Jerry Jones would say. But what the fuck to the Carolina Panthers? Are they a real team? They're a real team. Their offensive lines playing really good, and they're calling the runs.

I think early in the season, they weren't calling the runs because they were playing from behind a lot. Now they are calling runs, and it is marrying up with the past game. They're getting some good stuff from left tackle, left guard all season long. They've been great. The Carolina Panthers are a real team. Let's go. You guys deserve it. Hell yeah.

I heard from Luke Keekly and Jake Dell Home, two Panthers Legends. Obviously, I guess they do a radio, do some type of show together, and usually Luke Keakley's up there kind of calling plays out before they happen, like, you know, Luke Keakley football. And he took the headset off, I guess, this week. They're confused me. I don't know what they're running. So he was like, Dave Canales, that was a big hat tipped him.

That was one of Jake Dale Holmes take away. So if they're confusing Luke up in the box. Think about that, though. You're the head coach and the offensive coordinator? the guy that's talking to your crowd, your fans, is Lou Keekley, who is known for just understanding and dissecting everything everybody's doing. You're being judged as predictable because Luke Keekly is focusing solely on your play calling to figure out what you're doing.

That's a tough task just to beat the guy in the booth. You're beating the guy in a bit, let alone the other team. Luke Keakley was like known for the, isn't that like what he's known for is he dissected a play quicker than anybody else and knew exactly what was happening at all the times and can memorize every single player and their family's name in one week as he's playing him. He's a special talent. But how about that? Carolina Panthers, completely different vibes all of a sudden, AJ. Yeah, it is different.

I mean, if you're the head coach, your Canales, you're saying, hey, guys, I understand we have these great legends working, I would assume, the radio call. Why don't you guys watch the TV copy where they're not predicting everything we're doing? It makes us look a little different. Yeah, why don't you, let's maybe not bury the guy. Could you not bury me, Luke? I'd appreciate that.

They're doing special things. Here's the top five in the trenches with AQ Shippley of performing offensive lines coming out of week six. The Chicago Bears, congrats to Chargers, back, Colts. Okay. Okay. They're in there.

Cumulative. Cumulative, yeah, you're right. And then you'd mention in there one guy needs to go ahead and play at the level of everybody else. He's going to do that. My source says. Have told me that's the case. So maybe number one, outright for out the rest of the year.

Falcons are number two. Carolina Panthers is number one. Congrats all of them. Thank you, A. Q. All right, let's take a break. On the other side, we got Stanford. Steve, joining us to talk a little bit about college ball. And then we got Darius Butler, everything D.B.,

a lot of great shit left, AJ. Can't wait, buddy. I know Stanford, Steve, he's, uh, I know he's got some, some game, like, big matchups, right? That he thinks he knows what's going to happen. Nailed it. That is exactly. That is exactly what we're doing. I mean, I couldn't have, I couldn't have said it better. I actually couldn't have said it better. Poetry in motion. I appreciate you doing that. Yes, it was. And if this goes in to that hoop right there, it's going to be the greatest finish to an hour three that we've ever had. Fuck, yeah.

Oh, shit. That went in. I think that went in for my view. Yeah, the net, the net's broken. So it looked in? Yeah, it looked like dead on that one, right? Yeah, it didn't go in, but it won in? Yeah, drilled it. You ball's been good. I heard you guys, you guys took back the ground.

Congratulations. Congratulations to you guys. They can never take away that first day from you. Never. Good run. Team D, bone and butt certainly held it down for one day, the first day of the game. And then me and Foxy want to work on day two. We want to bed understanding.

that we can't have what happened. Happen again. D-Bone can't be... He was so happy. Just glee would be the term. Shorts and a T-shirt, ready to go yesterday. Laced up. Was he sore today?

Or not as springy, maybe, he didn't recover? So I think his Hail Mary's just weren't falling as much as there were. He's going to have to find a consistent, fundamentally sound game. And I think everybody's on their journey of doing that right now with a break. brand new game. But boy, D. Bone appeared to be the Wayne Gretzky of the game after day one. Wow. The great one. I mean, it really felt

that way. And I honestly didn't know how we were all going to handle it. I assumed that the game was going to get banned if that would continue from the Thunderdome just because of how it was going. And then day two, Waterfoundant's level. And now he's going to have to, you know, battle back. It's a good game, AJ. We got a good game over here right now. This is an enjoyable...

Do you have to throw it one-handed or can you shoot it? You can definitely shoot it. And... Oh, okay. I'll tell you, though, I did some throwing with DeBone after the games because yesterday I was like, hey, you're going to have start shooting it, dude. Like the throwing, it just bends so much. You have no idea where it's going to go. In airballs, minus points are like detrimental. Killer. It's absolutely killer. So having a good miss is better than an almost airball. Like you don't want that at all in this game. So you're going to, because he has a good jumper. DeBone has a good, like a pretty good jumper.

So he told him that. And then he just kept throwing and like, it was hitting the rim. And then I started throwing hits the rim. I'm like, wait a minute. You might be on to something here. And then I threw one and hooked and I missed the entire backward and I'm like, that's, we can't have that. Debo's like, we're getting those out of the game. So today he will battle again, I assume. But the mountaintop has the goats at it. And Abby me and Foxy, Edmy and Foxy.

Here we go. Foxy hit one, last shot of the inning, two-pointer. The games have been close. Like, it's a great game. Deboeat, do you like the game still? Love the game. I think we walked away yesterday still with a game. better PFF grade, even though

we didn't win. Offensively, we brought it. There's no YFF here. Okay, there's no U-ball, fantasy football static. I'm going to sit up here and grade it today. You don't even know what the fuck our jobs are. So you don't even know the game? Perfect. Perfect for the game. You don't even know the game? You can't be doing the judgment. Because me and Foxy might be trying to do a little something out of you. We might be setting up a defensive play for later. So we might miss a tip, but that's actually a set-up for later.

So you don't know that. That's why I'm perfect. What if you step on the line, though? We need people looking at the line stepping, because DeBone's feet, I think... Oh, yeah. He's touching the pain a lot, and I don't want to be like, hey, you're cheating every time because he's not making it anyway, so, you know... Also, his feet on defense. I mean, he's on the ground almost every single tip.

Needs me in the sky. We've been working on that. Yeah, well, not well. Maybe you just shouldn't be coaching Penn State. Let's get to a break. Kayak got to be fired up thinking about you not knowing the fucking... rules of the game judging this game giving out official scores and then that is actually that's what's going on we got to get to a bra I got cool off a little bit that's too real

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Tate. Hey, B. Tone, we got a big thing about to happen, as you know. It's time to dive into another week of college football convo with Stanford, Steve. Yes, Steve, all, we appreciate you taking time. We understand you've been waiting for us. That's 100% on us, and we've got it behind schedule. But we're thankful for you joining us,

and we've enjoyed this every single weekend, a chance to catch up about ball, but also just catch up with you in general. How you doing, Steve? We're big fans. I'm great. I just got educated for a whole hour. I felt like hearing AQ, hearing you guys talk.

I am locked in. I'm usually behind in the NFL prep by this time this week, but here in AQ, here in the excitement level, and what he's ready to go, you bitching about the Colts being too low, I'm all in for that. Thank you, Stanford, Steve. He seems like he also agrees with me,

which is why he remembers that, so we need to take that in going forward. They're five and one. Let's never forget it. And they're healthy, and they're dominant. And we'll dive into that at another time. Steve, let's talk about college football coming in. We got a huge one happening down there in Georgia.

Obviously, we're going down to Athens. There could have been a couple other places, but you got Ole Miss rolling in to a very, very dominating dogs of Georgia. Steve, what are the thoughts on this game? Yeah, the issues that dogs haven't been dominating, Pat, early in these games. You go back last week, down 10-0-0, almost 16-0 with that fumble and chaos at Auburn. You know, falling behind to 14-0-0 and 21-7 to Alabama at home.

They lose that game first time in about 33 home games. You go back, we were at Tennessee, it was 21-7. That place was as loud as any building. George has got to figure out how to start these games better. We're having Kirby on the show. I hope somebody figures out how to, or, you know, he explains what's been going on and how he's trying to address it because they've been incredible in these second halfs.

Last week, the drive to clinch it by Gunner Stockton was just textbook. I thought Bobo was great. We know outside runs, third down conversions, using, you know, their go-to guy branch as a decoy on a big third down, and then they get the brutal touchdown on the cover, for all those Auburn backers. Georgia is 4-0 as a 7-point favorite against all

top-five teams under Kirby. So it's up against Ole Miss, who slept to walk out of a buy against Washington State watching that game last week, and Trinidad made some plays in the second half, or else they were going to lose that game. So Ole Miss has got to prove it.

They gave it to him last year at home in Oxford with a great, you know, we saw how many guys go to the draft from Ole's team, but this is a different test. And I I like George's offense when you look at it in its totality. So awesome matchup coming up. George's offense is there whenever they've needed it. And obviously we go back to Tennessee whenever we talk about that

because what they did at the end of that game was awesome. What Gunner did on that fourth down was spectacular. Then they lose the bam, obviously. They had a 33 game win streak at home. That obviously gets snapped this season. And then the timeout clapping extravaganza last week is obviously fantastic. Let's talk about that Ole Miss team a little bit. Lane Kiffin has another top five team.

let's go to hammer. Ta-ton, Ta-ton, what do we need to be thinking about this game in Lane Kiffin's boys? Yeah, to be honest, I don't know if the numbers next to either of these teams are correct. They might be a little too high. I don't think either of these teams have been super aggressive. Yeah, the records are good. But, you know, this might be a little SEC bias in where they were ranked early in the year to where they are now. But no, I mean, Georgia is back between the hedges.

They just had their 33-game home win streak snap. Both these teams are top 25 in rush attempts per game. Now yards per rush, Georgia is the better team, and they also have the better rush defense. So I think Georgia has the advantage there. But I think overall, both offenses have the advantage. And I want to get this right here. So Georgia is 115th in sacks and 109th in tackles for loss.

That's on defense. And then Ole Miss is 100th in sacks and 121st in TFLs, both on defense. So neither one of these defenses are causing havoc up front. So I think offenses are going to have their way in this one. Okay, so that's an exciting shootout, you know, between train lead and Gunner. Georgia against the spread the last two seasons. Here's Hembo stats.

Overall, six and 14, favorites, four and 13 at home. They're two and eight. Okay, this is against the spread, not straight up. This is just whenever they have to cover. You said whenever they're favorites of seven or more, they win or whatever. They don't win for the betters, though, it sounds like. They don't win against for the betters. What other game were you looking at this weekend, brother, Steve?

The Seagar game. Alabama and Tennessee. Tennessee, since we've been there, has won every game by one possession, overtime in Starkville. You know, they let Arkansas come into backdoor last week at home off of a buy.

And Alabama's the hottest team in the country. Ty Simpson has been spectacular. Go, you know, I think Grub and Kalin, go for it on third and longs, fourth in longs. The defense steps up and holds Ahmad to 52 yards rushing, I believe.

So that was really good to see in a tricky spot, and 11 a.m. kick their defense showing out and shutting down the nation's leading rusher. Tennessee has really fallen off defensively, giving up a ton of points lately, and that Alabama offense matches up really well. Tennessee, I'm not sure if they're going to get those corners back. They were talking about them when we were there.

They're still not back. One of them is an NFL player in McCoy. So I think this leans Alabama, night game, night show, fireworks, the whole thing, plenty of points scored in this game. Okay, we have another stat from Hembo, and Bruce just pointed out some mean stats here from Hembo. Hypo has a three plus point road dog. Zero and six, win, lost straight up. Zero and six, obviously, against the spread. Average score, 37 and 18.

Yikes. Every loss by is 14 plus points. So if they're supposed to lose by more than three, it's going to. going to happen is what is what these stats are saying don't love that hembo saying that that could change this year though let's go to hammer ton ton tone what's up with these hembo stats and how much are you looking into them yeah i mean hey i like these they're their trends and once trends happen they're hard to kick we've seen that all season long um and hypoil yes away from tennessee has been you know it's kind of been the story of tennessee they haven't really been able to win the big

one yet under hypole they got bama a couple years ago but that was at Tennessee. As Steve said, I think the Bama offense is going to be able to do whatever they want, especially Ty Simpson in the passing game. I believe Tennessee's like 120th or something like that as far

against the past. So I don't think that Bama offense is going to have any issue. And then on the other side of the ball, if Bama is going to have an issue, Tennessee runs for over 200 yards a game. If there has been a question mark with the Bama defense, it's been the run game. We've said that the last three weeks, but they've handled it pretty well, especially

last week against Hardy and Mizzou, so yeah, Bama could potentially roll in this line. Steve, what the hell that's going on with Ryan Williams? What are you here? Where is he at? Where is he? I don't know if he's as motivated as he used to be. Oh, Teebo! We all know. This is PFF.

I keep hearing about how much money he's making. That's all. He's got a real nice house and set up. He's earned that with his abilities and we appreciate him. And obviously, we hope continues to live up to all the talent that he has and the expectations. But you're right, Ty Simpson's become the story, not the young wide receiver who's insane. And

they got a, who's number one for them? Orton. Miami. Isaiah? Orton. Yeah. He was. Him and Jeremy. Look at that ball placement right there. Come on. That's unguarable.

Yeah, you call him the hottest team in the country. Indiana would say, uh-uh. Really? Not so fast, huh, Steve? I didn't say best. I didn't say best. Indiana's the best. Well, and also the hottest then, right? Wouldn't they be the hottest team as well?

Yeah, they had a long flight home, you know, a lot of time to cool down. Hey, there's a time out of it. Yeah, they passed the ball away. Okay, check ball, check ball, got to move to the next one. That's awesome. Let's go to the next game. Stanford, Steve, we need to be paying attention to. Ooh, old rivalry.

Yeah, we just touched on the SEC where it means more. I think this game means the most this weekend in week eight. Notre Dame's last stand for a ranked win. They don't have anybody on the schedule that resembles a ranked team the rest of the way. Maybe Pittsburgh, but we don't like talking about Pitt on this show. So USC comes in red hot, red hot and very dangerous. We were talking about Pitt a little bit earlier. It was about them getting a new stadium.

They had a great win this week in Florida State. Hey, wait a go, Pitt. And if that would have been on the slate, I would like to know I would have picked Pitt to win that game because that does feel like a Nardu's win type thing. You know, Gritty Pit. Sure. we just think, you know, stadium setup needs to change. Maybe we could go to Pittsburgh for Notre Dame when they go there.

You never know. I don't know. Maybe. That would be awesome, actually. Won't go to the Holy War, but yeah, let's go to Pitt. I'll tell you what, this would have been a game. I think a lot of people thought maybe Game Day would head to him. Once again, I can't stress this enough.

The fact that I am lucky enough, and I assume Steve says the same thing, to be a part of a show that people would like to see at their events, you know, that is a very cool thing. We are very lucky to be a part of that. So anytime there is anger from any, anybody that our show doesn't go somewhere or that game to go somewhere, we understand the magnitude of how cool it is to be a part of something that has that effect on people. Obviously, it's been this way long before I got there and Steve got there.

It'll be a long after I and Steve leave. This will be a thing. This is, we're very lucky to be a part of game day. This game, everybody thought, could potentially have it. And I assume the next game we're going to talk about the Holy War out there in BYU. This could have been an epic college game. Not that Georgia Ole Miss won't be. Okay, obviously huge implications.

Nine verse five. Honored, lucky to be down there. Used to have the longest home winning stretch at 33 games. Tough place to play. Obviously, a lot of history. And in the middle of a dynasty still, if they were to go on to win, people would lump this all together for Kirby Smart.

Lucky to be going down there. This place, though, I think would have shut down the whole state if we were to want out there. This, it means something too this year. Six and zero, five and one. I mean, you got real playoff implications. And this is big. I love that we got Bear versus Dampere.

I love the storylines that are coming, and I like how good both these teams are, Steve. Yeah, Utah has proved it. Three and O against the spread as a road favorite, which is tough to do in this day and age college football. And BYU came back from the dead last week, late night in Tucson, goes to, comes back, goes to overtime, wins it.

Bear Bachmeier, the Mormon stole him from Stanford. It's still tough to watch him play for BYU, but we're moving on. And plenty at stake. What do we got? Fourth time, both teams in this rivalry are ranked in all since 1994. So there's not a lot of times this game has meant this much. We know how much they hate each other. Both head coaches went to BYU.

Whittingham won a national championship when he was at BYU. And now he's the head coach of Utah and had a serious run in that state. So the hatred is real. I love genuine hatred. There's nothing better. But Utah feels verified being a road favorite here, seeing what they're up against. Okay, and that's potentially because of what BYU looked like for most of that game last week. Obviously, you've got to take everything into account.

Kyle Whittingham's career record versus BYU. I don't know if you saw these numbers. Obviously, Wittingham, BYU, alum. Kyle Wittingham showed up at our show whenever we were out there on a motorcycle and sleeve. So it was cool. Pretty sweet. Yeah, it was pretty sick, Kyle Whittingham. He's 11.5 win-lost record against BYU, which also 11 to 5 against the spread.

5-1 against the spread versus a ranked BYU team. And 13 of 16 games have been decided by single digits. So it's good battle. It's going to mean something, and that would have been, oh, that could have been what they call scenes. Yeah, biblical. I think that actually, Holy War. Yeah. I guess it could have been pretty biblical out there.

Tone, anything we're missing on the Holy War? No, you guys touch on it. We should ask the West Virginia head coach. He played both teams. We got his pick. That's true. Yeah, we play a lot of tough teams. Yeah.

They're both good football teams. We know that. Good football. Ohio University with Navarro. That's a good football team. Pitt is a good football team. A lot of good football teams. Western Virginia knows the ins and odds about.

You know what I mean? I don't even hear anything for you. That's true. It's like Northwestern and UCLA. Great team. Great football teams. Great football teams. Tough to play Northwestern at home.

Yeah. Tough to travel. Tough to play Northwestern at home. Because they come in there and you just think to yourself, it's Northwestern. Yeah, here come a wild cat. It's right. And I don't even know, did you guys fill up for Northwestern at home? Did you see the pictures of the stadium?

No, I didn't see. Did you guys not go? You were at the Whiteout? There might have been about half that. Oh, no. Oh, really? I mean, I bet it was $75,000, $80,000. When's the last time that happened?

Has that ever happened before you? I don't know if that's ever happened. Really? Hold on. I didn't know I just opened a story that I should definitely known about. So you guys didn't fill that thing up for that game? Not even close. I've never heard of that at Penn State.

Really? Someone put a still shot of like before the Whiteout and then like right before this. Okay, so this might be it. This is during the game. No, this was... Yeah, well, right as it's ending. What's the score? Is this end of game? Yeah, it's when they're taking a knee.

Okay, so end of game's tough because 100-some thousand potentially want to get out of there. It's hard to get out of there. Can we get one from earlier? Yeah, there was one like before the game. There was one right before the Whiteout against Oregon, and then one right before the Northwestern, and it was night and day. Well, no pun intended. It's because you lose the UCLA the week before,

or because you lose Oregon a week before that, or what? Two in a row. early game, but it wasn't 3.30. 3.30, yeah. Plenty of 30. It's bad. They were done. The fans made the decision already. I think the UCLA thing really sent the fans

over the edge. How about that, Steve? Penn State. Franklin walked out there and saw an empty stadium and go, no, that's not good. Right? I mean, that is not good. He made comments before the game. He's like, we've prepared the team for booze

and a hostile environment for a home game. I would like to reiterate this a hundred times. James Franklin has been very good to us and always had great energy with us. He was great to that program. Great. Turned you guys around. Turned us around.

Kept us there when it was in the depths of hell. And he'll be remembered as that guy? For sure. But it's a results-driven business, period. In the moment, though, it's not thinking like that. Correct. But five years from now, looking back, James Franklin had a vital piece in the Penn State story.

There's going to be a lot of gratitude towards him, without question. say thank you to $49 million I've got since I've been there and also I agree we did some good things there it's not just negative that'll be a good time for Coach Franklin absolutely I mean I think he's third over the last 10 years

and most wins across college football yeah gosh it's a tough game I think that's why I got fired right because he's third and wins but he's never yeah I bet those other coaches on that list have national championships well not only national championship it's like a big win

Cigetti going into Oregon and winning that game for sure on the same at the same this guy's beat Morgan and you can't fucking beat Northwestern hit the bricks pal

that is basically I think that is potentially what happened and they had to travel and he was blaming travel the week before tough oh my gosh that is a lot

all right Stanford Steve anything else no I was just saying you were doing your show from his office like 20 days ago yeah and they were on top of the world

up seven in overtime coach Saban puts a white suit on and goes and gives their gives that fan base a funeral for their season geez I don't know say well maybe landing a little offspring I guess from Saban there were certainly some seeds of success there that were planted for landing maybe in that Oregon team but yeah we were just feet away from JJ yeah that's right coach Franklin's friend from high school he's right in a glass window

right there on the show it was great it was a perfect setup everything was great James Franklin obviously has done great things I'll be excited to see what he does next I wonder when we'll see them next. That's a good question. Probably not for a long, long, long, long, long time. No, I'm thinking you're wrong. I'm thinking we're seeing them real, real, real, real, real soon. That's what I'm thinking. Where?

He got to look for a job in sports, right? That's what they said, sports, me or sports, but we talked about this yesterday, how those interviews could go, you know, when push comes to shove on whether or not you want to spot, or if he is a ball lover and wants to get back in there. I assume that is the case. His energy feels like he is a football guy. I agree. I think we'll see.

Steve, I don't know if you saw, we saw your top 15. I don't know if you saw Tones predicted college football playoff bracket at this point. That's a sexy graphic. He's got five SEC schools, three Big Ten schools, obviously Big 12, Power 5, ACC in there as well. And independent with Notre Dame making it, congrats to them beating USC and then continuing to go on a run for the rest of the year is what Tone Diggs is saying. Also, congrats to Utah beating BYU, because Utah is still in the hunt, BYU. is not. Big news, Texas Tech does its thing, and Miami wins

the ACC outright, so congrats to them making a win, is what Tone's saying. Anything you see here, Stanford, Stephen, how accurate do you think these projections are as we sit week seven versus what the end of the season actually is? Well, that's what it's going to come down to. I mean, everybody wants to know the numbers. We change

the format, so it doesn't, you know, the buys don't go to the league winners. I saw the, I'm not an analytics guy, I just read it and I wrote it down because I thought I could comprehend it, so hopefully other people can. Right now, the SEC is 90% to send four teams to the playoff. Tone has five, so he's on point there. And the Big Ten is 89% to send three teams, 42% to send four. So, yeah, it's pretty top. Everybody's talking about the depth

and what it is, you know, SEC versus the field, whatever. The Big Ten is pretty top-heavy right now with Michigan getting beat last week by SC and Penn State not being what they have been. And the SEC, I don't know if they have a team that can win the national title, but they're going to have the most teams in the playoff. I think we could guarantee that just seeing what those teams have to play. And the resumes are just going to look tougher because of all the games you still have to go through. I mean, Alabama, this is, what, six straight against ranked opponent. This is the first team that Alabama hasn't played that hasn't been undefeated this year.

So their resume is as strong as anyone's, even with a loss to Florida State, because of the wins they've attained on the road and now coming back home against Tennessee. A&M's the outlier to me, because they're good. You know, it's probably the second best win in the country after

Indiana went to Oregon last week, which is the best. A&M going to Notre Dame is pretty damn good. And they don't play a home game until November 15th. They got three road games and a buy. So we're going to know everything we need to know by November with Elko's team, which I know you like Pat, and I love him.

What he's doing on third downs is just gross with dialing stuff up. So that looks pretty good. And Texas Tech is an awesome story. I really hope we could get to a Texas Tech home game during this run because that place, I was there for the Crabtree catch. It's the greatest night in Lubbock, Texas. And if we go back there, it'll be absolutely awesome. I love that.

And I also appreciate the fact that they're going all in and it's working. You know, like I like anytime somebody goes all in and it works, because that is hopefully, you know, an example for others to follow. Like, hey, if you go all in, you also have success. When people go all in and they fail, okay, that gives other people say, see, they're doing all this and they don't even win. So, like, we need the people that go all in and are doing it to win so that other people look at that and say, that's the model that we need to follow. We don't need people going all, all, all the way in and then not having success because then the cheap skates out there. go. See?

See? Just like we said. I'm 17 years removed from that program. Point another direction. This guy doesn't want to be a part of it? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'll be back next. They are Penn State. That's what you wanted to say right there.

I'll be back next year. Terry Smith, Western Pennsylvania. Locked Harry Smith. He's in a room head coach. He needs you. Gateway High School, WPIL, Hall of Fame class, same year I went in. See? And you're turning your back now on the I love Terry Smith. Okay, so maybe

give a little bit of respect to the man. He's going to get him fired up. I'm telling you. He's going to have a player. They are Penn State. Start saying we are Penn State. We've got a lot tough games coming up. They better buckle up this week. Bingo. Who's the bank of quarterback? Well, now to start a quarterback. He's a high kid. Ethan Grunker.

Drunken Meyer? Drunkummeyer. Grunkumkemire. Yeah, Columbus kid. Yeah, he's legit. He can play. Drew Aller was a hot guy, too. That's right. Drew Alar was a high guy. He's going to be going back to Columbus in a couple weeks. Godspeed, the surgery?

No, no, no. November 1st, they play. Oh, okay, you're talking about Drunkumar. Okay, you got Drew Aller out for the season. Grunken Mar. No end. Grunkummer. No.

Grunkumar? Yeah, G-R-U-N-K-E. That's best thing of sports. Hold on. Bear or something. What's Bear's name out there? Bok-M-Bach-M-M- That's a really good name. Thanks, brother.

There's a lot of really. good names. I mean, Fernando Mendoza is a great name. And the Mendoza brothers being on the same team. They're not twins, a couple years. So it's not the Mendoza twins, but the Mendoza brothers, taking a world by storm down here in Bloomington. College football is great.

We're having a great season. I'll see you down there in Athens, brother. Can't wait to get down there. All right, Fin's up for Gumpy. They actually have a guy who's a leading tackler in the NFL right now. Now he is. There's 55% more snaps than everybody else because the defense on field. He's tackling a lot of people.

wait that right comes yeah the offense is only scoring 60% of the time against the defense what you want them to do the leaders need to start taking charge down here they they need to start saying we are instead of they are one in particular right i don't like the way you've been talking about some of those dolphin stuff down there i stood up for that man for a long time all right we deserve better see everybody right now doesn't know which man you're talking about there's two man that you've been standing up for for a long time hasn't there been oh yeah so why don't we just go ahead and leave that a mystery on who you're talking about good for you gumps who are you talking about our quarterback okay okay number one who no okay yeah yeah all right too i got it all right

he takes the podium today who does too uh yes better i'm excited no that's what i'm talking about we need more questions we need more out of that too is a lead by example guy okay now obviously his quarterback's got to speak. He likes to disappear from his life. He doesn't like to do all the spotlight stuff. He's been very open about that. So I think we've got to take that with a grain and start with everything he's saying. He's trying to not give shit to anybody, Wallace, or not enjoying what he's doing. Sure.

And on that note, we enjoy what you're doing. Ladies and Gentlemen, the man. Stanford, Steve. Thank you, buddy. Yay, Steve! I enjoy... Hey, how'd you do on your picks? One and two. That's back-to-back weeks, one and two, brother. All of a sudden, that's 66% hit rate's about to become a

fucking 50% hit rate, and then all of a sudden, now, number of 33% net. There's a quick slide in it from the fucking Penn House to the outhouse. Holy shit. The first half Penn's date didn't hit Steve? Yeah, exactly. Oh, I forgot that was one of your things.

That's the tone. We got there where Coach Saban's Kent State. Did they win? Yeah. He really doesn't like him. What happened? He doesn't really support them much, doesn't it? He's not really, you never hear him going to bat for Kent.

He said he didn't get the job there, maybe? Is that what happened? Yeah. Well, he was at. Toledo so I think he gave them the business when he was coaching at Toledo and I mean you're not no offense

but like Kent State's down at the bottom and you know Sabin is going up he's not going back to go up he's to keep going up yeah I understand he's moved on but you know there is a moment a couple times like once every four shows where Ken State gets brought up and everybody's like Coach Sabin you're a golden flash

he goes they got terrible players and that's like the tank and they just moves on in the next one and I'm sitting next to what I'm like Jesus Christ they do I mean they can't get anybody what do you want I couldn't coach you I don't think he's the best you're the man Sanford Steve ladies yeah Sabin's the greatest he's getting so comfortable up there I told the boys there's like you know the way the conversation is structure it's vastly different than how this show is obviously the conference because there's so many things you

got to hit like obligation to hit because this is college football we were covering college football. So there's like things, you know, like, hey, we're going to hit this. We're going to talk about this. You got this. And then Savin will hear something that somebody else says. And you know, well, I need to say something to that. Excuse me. So he taps his finger on the desk, right? Taps his finger on the desk. And it's like his way of showing that he would like to say something. And I'm right next to him. So I see him tapping it first normally. And I look at him. I'm like, yeah, you're good. I have no say over that. I have no say over that. So then I try to go to Reed. Yeah, exactly. I have no say over that. So then I go to Reese. I tell him, get him.

Like, hey, Saban's ready to go. Then he talked to the truck. And then all of a sudden it gets back to it. And then Saban says something. It's like, yeah. Hey, also, you should not, you should just, whatever you want to. If I'm talking and you want to let it fly, just fucking go ahead, dude. He's the best.

Yeah. He is so good up there. So good. Legitimately. I don't know what his picking is, though. I don't know what his picking is. It's the goat. That's tough, dude.

Picking games is wild. It's really nice that I'm getting really lucky with these right now. But obviously, I know what's happening. so that's why it's a difference you know there's a talent in this obviously you know 18 to 23 year olds just on any given day showing up and all doing the same

thing is certainly easily predictable you know that's the thing that gets most seen though the end of the show is the next you have one bad day on there boy the internet's tough it's been nice to have a couple good days good weeks but I know what's around a corner you know let's be getting a little loud

we've been taking more good days more good days hell yeah more good days yep That's what I was thinking Yeah, you're right I'm never going to miss No, why would you?

How much fun is that? Think about how cool that is I'm never going to go wrong I'm so funny If this goes in All right No, no no Don't even leave this the chance

You're riding a hot streak right now You don't even You don't need to introduce anything True This is it This is what is the universe We need to know I would like to know right now

I think it's gonna change my vibes Change my mood That's all I'm thinking about Is right around a corner You know You're going 8 to 10 8 to 10 8 to 10 every single week, that's certainly a time.

That's a good time. All the people that you picked against can't really say much because the team was right. But boy, you pick against the team and you were wrong and their team wins. That opens the flood gets in their eyes to say whatever they want about you. You know, anything that they've wanted to say,

yeah, exactly, that's a good one. Out of nowhere, just an enemy all of a sudden quickly comes and bang, you know. So when you're winning, it's good. When you lose, it gets loud. This ball right here will say whether or not it's going to get loud for me. Are you sure?

Are you sure you want to do that? You like a face-up on a blackjack table or you like face-down? Face-down. Okay. That's opposite. Of what I'm doing right now. Yeah, fuck that. Yeah.

I'm not doing that. No way. No. Why would I even want that to be the right? How did you do that? Blackjack was a good call. If you miss that, you're going to get every game wrong. I'm going to start fading myself.

Waffle, dude. Yeah, I will. I will start walking. Yeah. I need clear eye. Yeah, exactly. Few screens. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's what I need right now. Mm-hmm. All right, let's learn football on the way up. Let's go. It's a great way to wrap up a show whenever you learn at a level that you never thought was possible. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go inside the mind of one of the greatest football minds. There's been, it's time to go everything, DB. Good D, Bad D.

Let's go. Let's start with Good D, one of the best defenses in the national football. football league coming off a hot primetime win. This was a big, big interception from Diorfer, who also had a big sack in this game as well. So second, I'm sorry, first and 10, 15 seconds left in the second quarter, big time. Everybody here is outside leverage. Start running back from beginning real quick, please.

Sorry, man to man across the board. You got split safety look at then after the snap, that top safety up of the right hash, he's going to rotate down to kind of be like a deep robber. The bills are just trying to get in the field goal range, get a chunk play, and no under Cutter Cuts him, using his outside leverage, big-time play. And it sets up an opportunity for the offense to get points before to have. Obviously, we know that Drake London, almost touchdown did get it in there. But this set them up and gave him a chance.

So you talk about complementary football. This is it, all for having a big, big year. This defense as a whole, allowing under 160 yards per game when it comes to passing. Coach B.A. mentioned a couple times yesterday, number one, scoring defense. So you talk about a huge turnaround, got a lot of rookie. He's out there playing in some premier spots, playing big-time balls. So shout out to Brick and the boys over there in Atlanta, turning things around and getting a big-time win against the reigning MVP.

Okay, so Carolina game just didn't happen. Carolina may be a better football team than any of us could imagine. So when it happens, maybe we didn't show enough respect to Carolina Panthers. Nonetheless, they shit the bed that day as well. Yeah, I mean, it's such a week-to-week league. Sometimes you just wait. Sometimes the game playing is shitty. Sometimes the quarterback's just not seeing it.

Young quarterback, too. So it's young quarterback, you're going to have your ups and downs. he's playing well, the offense is playing well and the defense is playing even better so hopefully they continue to ride that wave over there in Atlanta. Wow. Yeah. I'm just seeing the next team that's on Good D here it appears.

They were also on In the Trenches. Just a few weeks back they were going to be in some trenches as a team that was dead. Now they're all the way alive it appears. Yes, absolutely. And on the back end, banged up on the back end. Bristker who missed a ton of time last year. He's back in the lineup. He's playing

some good ball. Dennis Allen have these boys. have these boys playing some good balls second in the NFL with interceptions with eight this is brisker cover three and now there are different variations of cover three sometimes this got his cover right here we uh keep it paused for a second a talking point i think uh deno mentioned it uh with this game with the monday night game four strong is something that cliff loves this offense he likes to overload the zone coverages on defense the bears do a good job of covering their guys up and in cover three as that slot defender you either drop to a spot or you that vertical. You carry that scene route. So if you let it run, he carries Debo

Samuel here. And when you're running out of real estate deep and you're not worried about getting beat by a deep ball, you can undercut this and play the quarterback. And that's what the veteran Brisker does there. Just a very, very smooth interception right here. Keeping them from scoring points and preserving that 3-0 lead at this point

in the game. You know, the last time we saw this Bears' defense play against his commander's team in this type of setting. We saw the worst defense of all time. Yeah. It's true. Tyree, Steve. He's been playing some good ball. this year. Yes, he has. Hell yeah.

Think about that team until now. Yeah. Think about it. Laughing stock, fire, everything, hell, now where they're at, winning three games straight and looking like a real team. And that's the NFL kind of wrapped up. This team started off, oh, and two there were moments in this game where they could have just folded in years past.

That team would have definitely folded and just pissed down their leg. But these are long games and it's a long, long season. You can get in a rut. You can drop a couple games, but you've got to be able to battle. So it just shows you the leadership. not only on the sideline with the coaches but in the locker room. The Eagles right now, the next team on the opposite side, obviously here. They're dealing with a little rut here dropping two games.

Big time, big time play here by flop. Now keep it paused. We got pressure, so it's going to be a zero look from the New York Giants. And as a corner, kind of similar to Brisker, when you get to this area of the field, you get inside the 20, the field now becomes wider than it is longer. So you're not necessarily worried about getting ran by. And then we talked a couple weeks ago about leverage. So right here with that cut split of the wide receiver, he's about a yard inside the numbers.

Flat does a good job starting out with outside leverage foot up. And he knows we got more guys than they can block. So this ball is going to be coming out quick. So Hertz has to be absolutely perfect. This ball has to be out in front where his receiver catches it or it goes out of bounce. If it's not, it's going to be in trouble. When you throw these picks, when you throw these balls out to the flat and you're late, or if you're off target, they can go back to the house.

Sequin does a good job here, running them down and getting them out of bounds, giving his defense the chance to just line up and play defense. But big time play right here by fly. How has he been playing this year, Bruce? How do you guys feel about two eight? He's good. You know, it's his fourth year in the league. He's been rotating with Deonté Banks, who's in his third year.

This was actually the first game this year where Flot just played the whole time. And obviously it pays off here. Young secondary, been on baddie a bit, but obviously this is encouraging, you know, on the other side of the coin. I'll tell you what, we've been a lot of bad big givers around here at the Giants. Everything's turning up giants right now. Everything's turning up Giants. So scatabooam out there is a big takeaway. Now the defense, Flot's getting a pick. That looked easy

for him, AJ. That looked easy for Flot right there. Yeah, did zero. Debutt's eight, zero coverage. He doesn't have to bail. He knows like, hey, man, where they are in the field. I mean, yeah, just something that for Jalen Hurts and this Eagles offense is absolutely killer. Can't happen, but it was a great play. And timely, timely, too, 27. 17 right here, fourth quarter. So if they're going and score a touchdown right here is a three point game

obviously. Now, not only do you get the interception but you set up your offense that's led by a young quarterback in a great position to be able to continue to run this ball and tick time off the clock, I'm sorry. Yeah, TikTok, no worries. Time off the clock. Now, speaking of time off the clock, as the game gets later, it seems like this team only

gets better. Yes, they do. Now, Mac Jones threw for a ton of yards here. Jamel Dean actually just won an NFC defensive player of the week. It's his birthday as well. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Jay. He's missed some time, but he's played well this year. He's made big time timely

plays. This is another one here. Now, run it back a little bit. Starting here from Mac Jones, this looks like, what kind of defenses look like, AQ? Single high. Single high defense. So probably man-to-man, maybe cover three. But post-snap, once the ball is snap, it's going to rotate and become cover two.

So that safety's going to get vertical to corner to the bottom. He's going to become the deep half player. You have your run through. And Jamel Dean does good job playing it high to low. So you play the high route to force the quarterback to either put enough air on it so it gives my safety enough time to get over the top. And if not, I go up and make a big time play. And that's what Jamel Dean did here. Had a strip sack as well this game. So a big time game for Dean and a big time interception. Once again, a timely interception. They're up eight right now in the fourth quarter. Big time play right here. Mac Jones.

I wouldn't necessarily say he was fooled because he saw him, but he thought he could get that ball. it over him, but he went up there at high point and made a big time play. He baited a butter there, Jamel Dean, named NFC defensive player of the week for week six. Dean currently leads the NFL in lowest passer rating when targeted at 20.8 is tied for second and lowest completion rate when targeted, 42.1 percent. And ranks tied fifth in interceptions for release here from Buccaneers communication. He's a player. He is a lot of stats saying he's great.

And it turns out good D is also saying he's great. And it appears if he baited butter right into that particular throw. I love the disguise from one. on high to two rolling into that thing. Got you confused. It did. AQ had no idea what hell is going on. No, and I was kind of blown away on how they got to two.

Yeah. Kind of wild because they sent the corner. When you're seeing that kind of a lot, you see down here at the bottom, if you run it back to the beginning, 22, you'll see he starts to get back early. So that's the thing about this guys. I talk about disguise a lot.

It's obviously great when it works, but you never want to put yourself or your teammates in a position where you can't be where they expect you to be. So it's one thing to be in the good disguise pre-snap, but post-snap, just have your ass wherever you need to be. You'll actually see a perfect example of a team not doing that on the flip side. Oh, we got bad thing.

We flipped over to the bad team with Tampa on all these. Oh, they got too farred here. Fred Warner got hurt. This isn't fair. Look, obviously, Frere Warner being hurt is a big thing. Bosa being out is well shot at teasing pieces of Fred Warner. He is my favorite lineback of watchplay football. for sure. I don't know if he would have helped him on this play. Disguised, if you keep your

pause here, that cornerback all the way up top, this is some variation, in my opinion, of cover three. You'll get the late motion with the back going out there. That kind of gives you a little eye candy. But that corner, he is responsible for the deepest of the deepest on his side of field in that third. Now, obviously, the post safety, he has the same responsibility, and you have a corner down here with the same responsibility. So right now, he's only one yard deep, and he's responsible for the deep third part of the field. So Ted Johnson, we saw this play yesterday, let it roll here. He sees the vacated area, and he just throws that hand up and run it down,

and Baker does a great job getting the ball, seeing it. B.A. said this probably wasn't even his route. He just saw that open area and just ran to it. But that corner, you're never going to get to where you need to be with that alignment. You can see him kind of, you know, we all, you slap your hands or slap yourself in the past. you know, you fuck this one up and they just started with alignment. If he's aligned, if he's off,

who knows what route Tess actually runs if the coverage is played properly, but whenever you do this, that's the thing about cornerback. Like, you can have, you know, 55 great plays and you mess up once or twice and it becomes a play like this.

MVP. MVP. MV.P. Ted's a special. He said, you know, I'm slow sometimes. You're going to take me a little bit of catch up. And the boys hyping him up. saying now you got your confidence

now you're going to be you if they continue to add weapons down there I mean they're a problem he's got to get healthy exactly yeah if they continue to imagine guys just coming back healthy like week 13 just dropping it oh we got an all pro dropping it we got another one dropping it it's like they're only going to get better and stronger and somehow they're still

leading the NFC oh another case of dollars Cowboys Bad D and Big D I mean I'm sorry I'm sorry 20 yard line we got some variation of two high down here so you got a cloud corner and then you have a deep half safety once again not worried about necessarily the deep ball but you're playing concepts down here because things happen so tightly

and a very common concept around the national football league is like a high low like a stick dig route so if you run it let it run a couple clicks here you pause it here you see league get about five yards from the line of scrimmage just sitting up curling up so that lets that safety know this i'm sure this is the concept that panthers run a ton because it's ran it across the NFL you sit there and then you have a dig or post route from TMAC down here number four but he goes boom gives him a little bit of went vertical dig and go great job by canalis calling it great job by our young seeing it and throwing it a little cue here run it back a little bit which once it gets much easier sitting here looking at the screen but the receiver never looks back right so if you're running a dig

if you're running a post you're going to snap that your head back and get it back to the quarterback the entire time of him running his route he's looking at the safety once again a lot easier to see here than it is on the field because you're anticipating that you want to jump that and beat him to the spot so a great job having tendencies as an offense and then using a double move off of those tendencies so he had two touchdowns in this game team act did for him and this big comeback that we kind of saw kind of a little bit behind the scenes with our young miced up irish juice is special huh they're saying team max a real deal yeah i like that he's got all the tools. He's got all the tools. He's big. He's fast. He's agile, which you don't really see

that combination much. And then as long as they can continue running the ball like they have. Number one offensive line in the league. Yeah. Yeah. Back to back, what? 200, 225 from RICO. Isn't that weird when you run the ball? How it opens everything up? Isn't that crazy? Isn't that a crazy thought? Maybe Cleveland should throw it 70 fucking times next week. Jesus. All right. Thank you. Great show. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. We start out with a little PFF heat. We end it with a little play calling heat that's a that's a nice little Wednesday great work this week deep buck great work on good deep bad day acre a Q thank you for traveling out here brother great work today we appreciate you I'm excited to see how you do a you ball I'm excited

too I find a partner yeah you do you need a partner isn't uh yeah Tony right Tony did drop Bruce yeah I did not drop Bruce but it would be an honor to play with but I would certainly drop him again because I did drop him the other day I said I'm looking for a new teammate and then if you want to be that new team I would certainly drop Bruce. I love Bruce. He just got so down in the dumps so quickly. Yeah, he doesn't do that.

You got to pick him up, Tone. You got to pick him up. Nah, that's not my job. No, that's U-Ball. It's your job. Stay with me. It's U-Balls, it's not Weeball. But you're a team.

That's good. And it's on you. It should be called Weeball to play. Bruce, how do you feel about just kind of getting buried here publicly without really saying anything? Yeah, no, I mean, the Tony was Dennis Rodman out there. He's grabbing every rebound, throwing it down. So it was completely on me.

My PFF grade, I'd probably give myself like a 36. Oh, you're a missing assignment? Out of 36? I'm not a defensive player. I got a little caught up and trying to catch the ones that just hit the backboard and drop right away. Bad strategy. Then I was letting up all the easy ones that hit the rim. Yeah, no.

I was trying to reinvent the wheel, and I should have just been focused on my fundamentals. Okay. That's good ownership. Yeah, it is. That's good accountability. right there. Tone, I ask you, do you have any regrets on maybe moving on from Bruce twice after hearing the accountability? He was doing

a lot of, this one's on me, all fingers pointing back at Bruce there. You've got to like that as a teammate. Are you guys still splitting? Yeah, I mean, he's great. He's saying all the right things right now after the game, after the locker room, after the shower, after things calmed down. But during the game, he was, you know, kicking dust up and pop. I just didn't love that. A lot of passion. A lot of passion, Tony. I'm not going to apologize for that. You're saying when bullets are flying, boy, there's somebody heading for the hills and we don't need that.

I'm a positive guy. I need some positive reciprocation. Yeah, especially in the middle of this game, because this game will knock you down. Yeah. Because you're going to fail a lot. I want to be down in the thumps. He's getting a partner as the most positive guy on the earth.

You? Me. Yeah. I can't wait to watch Tone and Q do their thing. And then the team of the D's, are you guys giving up or are you guys back? Hell no. You guys are still a team? I'm in Troy's on a DuBone is wearing.

I hope he's. He brought his Duke hat today. He means business. Yeah. And I think he's got a hoodie, a thin, like, athletic hoodie on, like, one of those. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, he said he's going tarps off for this, for this game. I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised with that how he was just yesterday.

AJ, what were you saying about D-Bone and D-But? No, team-boning butts. I didn't think they were splitting up already, right? Well, that's not the team name, guys. Oh, it is, right? It's not the team name. What's your names? I mean, you guys are team.

Your bone and butts. Bone and butts. Bone and Did you hear Stanford Steve said some team came in the back door Yeah Stanford Steve does a common one a lot You know it's hard not to

Whenever you see a team just climbing It's like well look who's coming all over the place And whenever two guys are teammates And D is the first name Of both of their nicknames It's hard not just kind of put that together Like they do with those headlines How they put like one big D

Sure yep And then they put bone and butt right there next to it Just one D, bone and butts. I have to mention the coach. Who? D. Oh, yeah, Coach D. And also, Kirk, the driver.

Yeah. Yes, that, yeah, yeah, yeah. D, is that who you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's their coach. I didn't know he was boned and bucks. Yeah, he went over the game plan last night. He should be out referee, you know.

He's a great referee. He does not know the rules. But if he learned the rules, he would be good for me. He would also make good signals. Oh, yeah. What are you doing? Is it a one-hand game? Because it's a small ball.

You're going to have to figure that itself. That's on you. It's U-ball. All right. I'm good at adjusting. I'll figure it out. A-Q is going to be good. I predict A-Q does very well.

Thanks, AJ. For real. This could be an A-Q game, to be clear. But he might also get stuck by the rim. I had one yesterday where I did not put it high enough and got stuck by the rim. Eight-foot rim seems very attainable. Seems very easy to get to. But you do got to pull a little bit of effort.

Unless you're debone, who's taller than everybody, he doesn't jump at all. okay so that's part of the problem because it is tips you know so you have to jump you have to dunk tip it or can you lay it in you can lay it in but it's much easier with the size of the ball it's a Q's thing to dunk it because like it's hard to get a good you're like shack with the basketball it's hard to be tough it'll be tough with the meniscus

oh yeah yesterday just yesterday that happened yeah tough day for me stood up off the couch I just sat up stood up and that doesn't feel right and it hasn't felt right since I think it's done and it feels like a little gravelly in there or what's it feel like

yeah it feels like something stuck on the outside and he's just rubbing does it feel like the rubbing do you feel that or no just a stab no just stuck like I can you squat

can you bend still I can squat yeah up steps I don't have steps steps steps do hurt meniscus yeah that's how you find out

all right yeah you have steps going up obviously is the issue because going down you can kind of do the half-limbs. All right, we're going to get out of here. We're going to go play some U-ball. We'll give you some updates.

I'm sure you guys are really riveted by this. You have no idea what the game is. And obviously, you've never seen it before. But this whole conversation is just for us, and we won't know. Foxy, good to see you, champ. Yeah, that's nice. It's nice to be champ again.

If this ball goes in, yes. AQ and. Tone. We'll win a game today. God damn it I didn't mean you're going to be champs that's probably in another game is what I was talking about

but I wasn't going to give that up ever but it looks like you guys got no shot I think it's going to take you about three quarters of the game to figure out how to get the ball to the hoop and by that point we're already winning a game so welcome to the Thunderdown brother hey hey time why don't you come on out here both all my way gave out your bracket today also

got some good callous of shins you know it had to feel good whenever seven came out on your side in the entire thing in Pittsburgh That's a good voice to have on your side. It was good to have Ben come out on your side? Seven? Yeah. My Lord and Savior.

Yeah. You're not the only one to call us more a savior. Good to see you. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice when I change your life. We're in this thing together. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. That's real.

We're incredibly lucky. We're incredibly thankful. In every, like, a few months, we get a heads up on how many people are watching and how many people are seeing and how many people are spending their life with us. and it's mind-blowing every time we're forever grateful we have no idea why you choose to do so but for as long as you choose to do so we'll continue to do this thank you all so much

we're in this thing together never forget it team on me team on three one two three three good-bye