The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1438 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 8 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin and QB Trinidad Chambliss, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 8 of the NFL including the schedule being pretty awful all day, the Colts routing the Titans to... go to 7-1, the Packers going into Pittsburgh and beating Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, go through some overreactions from the internet and everything else noteworthy around the league before previewing tonight’s Commanders vs Chiefs Monday Night Football game. Joining the progrum to give his biggest takeaway’s from Sunday, some injury updates, and to preview tonight’s Monday Night Football games is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, 12 year NFL veteran, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky joins the progrum to chat about what he was most impressed with this weekend, the QB play around the league, a check in on the Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, and his thoughts on tonight’s Monday Night Football game. Later, fresh off a massive win over Oklahoma this weekend, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin joins the show to chat about this weekend’s win, Pat not picking Ole Miss, the rumors about him leaving for any one of these high profile job openings, the mindset they need to play with each week, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Aboe, the Thunderdow. On this massive overreaction Monday, October 27, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It's fabulous, isn't it? Until you have a slate like yesterday that is certainly not desirable. Now, there was obviously a close game. The rest of the slate was absolute shite. Now, that's good news if you're on the winning side.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Terrible news if you're on the losing side. And tonight, don't look now, 11.5 point spread we're staring now. So, will this be the week of blowouts, we shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to you, boys. Big wins yesterday. Thank you. You too. You too.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It was well. Thank you. Let's go to one half of the hammer. God. Cowboys AP done. Oh, no. We have shite uniforms on Sunday night football. Brett Michaels didn't bring his A game.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Not what we said. Some people that were there said they couldn't hear him as good throughout the entire state. stadium. So maybe that shifted the momentum at halftime to what it became. But the Pittsburgh Steelers lose to the Green Bay Packers in the Aaron Rogers Bowl, although Accresher certainly had the environment of a massive game. The field looked much worse than it seemed to have played last night. But the game ends with the Green Bay Packers getting a huge win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go to a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, one half of the hammer. Da! Cowboys AP Tone! How's life right now? Everything okay over there after a prime time loss? Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yep. Um, no. No, it's not all right. I wish I was in your guys' spot, you know, celebrating blowout wins and happy. But no, it was just another prime time loss and a sleepless night. And I'm starting to week on a bad footing. And it's just not good. Okay, yeah, well, you're not the only one.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I think there's a lot of people in Pittsburgh saying this is exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. Yep. It's exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. We were sold a brand new bill of goods here because Aaron Rogers coming in here. And Aaron, obviously, a Hall of the Famer, and incredible. He's doing his thing. But now, if it's not the offensive, what happened to the defense? It feels like for the last eight, nine years since seven retired,
Starting point is 00:02:07 there's never really been hoped that you could win a Super Bowl with the team that's on the field. But you could certainly win games, which the Pittsburgh Steelers have done. Can he win the big one? Here's a big one in the middle of the season. And Tucker Kraft goes bananas for the Green Bay Packers and Jordan Love obviously spins it. But the defense for Green Bay does enough. And for Pittsburgh side, the defense seemingly the problem throughout the entirety of the season on display last. night, or is it just, hey, you play a good Green Bay Packers team?
Starting point is 00:02:31 It's a good team. No, I wish it was just that. I believe that's four games now that they've let up 30 points this season, which hasn't happened since 2003, I believe, 2004, right before we got the honor of drafting 1-7, Ben Rothensberger. So the defense is horrendous. They basically took the same game plan as the Bengals and said, hey, we're not going to give the D-line any chance to get to the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We're going to throw short stuff. And then the Steelers don't know how to tackle 235 yards after catch, I believe, at one point of Jordan Love's 315 yards, so a bit of insanity there. That was at one point. It ended with 244 yards after contact or catch. In total verse Packers, most in any regular season
Starting point is 00:03:09 game under Mike Tomlin. And his last two games, Joey Flack and Jordan Love, Pittsburgh is a lot, 7102 passing yards with six touchdowns and only two sacks on 86 dropbacks. That's from Hembo. We appreciate the hell out of him. Let's go to a nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Baller here. D. B. Butch, obviously, make a living
Starting point is 00:03:25 in a secondary. Is that all tackling? What's going all with the Pittsburgh Steelers right now? Yeah, whenever you see all that yak, it's definitely bad tackling, bad coverage. And also, Jordan Love just being hot, you know, 20 straight completions on the way to throw him for 360 yards. And it wasn't a bunch of dink and dunks, you know, screens or a little short routes. Like he was actually throwing up there putting the balls kind of in harm's way. And his receivers were making plays. Tucker Craft obviously had a phenomenal night on National Tight-end Day.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And then Watson, I mean, Christian Watson made his presence fell all night long coming back. after a week 18, A-C-L-T, I believe. He's a deep threat, has been since stepping into the National Football League. He was a big threat, just all around. Love was feeling it, man. I'm sure it meant a ton to him going against his predecessor on the other side line. What a play right there. And Jordan Love, you know, showing that gunslinger mentality that he certainly has,
Starting point is 00:04:17 just like some of the Green Bay Packers quarterback times of the past. Ty, whenever you're watching his Packers team, just gets you excited for a big-time win like this. LaFleur also seemingly handled the entire men. moment perfectly. Him and Aaron Rogers had their moment beforehand. Jordan Love, you talk about his relationship with Aaron Rogers. Aaron said to Chris Collinsworth, I believe, that normally they text
Starting point is 00:04:35 back and forth. This week, they did not talk to each other. The only time they talked in pregame was that the captain's coin toss as well. It felt like they were both pretty locked in. Jordan Love needed it? Do you think? Do you think Jordan Love need? Not that it would make or break his entire thing. That was a big one, though, I think, for Jordan Love, Guy Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah, massive. Because even really, I mean, you know, there was some chatter about him, but coming in, it was all about Rogers playing his former team. There really wasn't that much of like, hey, Jordan Love quietly is having a very good year and this would be a massive notch in his belt. But this is kind of like, you know, he's been a little inconsistent and that's what Packers fans like, they've seen glimpses of this. And that's why it's like last night for him to complete 20 consecutive passes and just take the game over. Yeah, I mean, this is the team we saw the first couple weeks, I think. Last night, big moment,
Starting point is 00:05:22 big stage and they, you know, it brought it out in them. But, um, You know, it's same deal. They didn't look good in the first half. That's what we were saying. You know, I don't want to say it, but Brett Michaels may have single-handedly lost the Steelers the game. What? Doing into halftime after the Packers, you know, missed the field goal. McManus, I don't know what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He might still have something with his. Yeah, 57 short. That's not McMahon. No, no. That's not him. And then he missed another one. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, which, having a, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Right. So we'll see. But after that, going into the half, I was like, oh, boy, this thing could get ugly quick. Oh, felt good. And luckily, you know, when the Packers have needed to turn it on this year in moments like that, they've done that. And, yeah, love was just tremendous. And this defense, you know, just week after week, I mean, they did enough last night,
Starting point is 00:06:07 but they played so good in the second half, Micah, Roshan Gary. So, yeah, as opposed to the last couple weeks when I woke up on Monday morning and being like, man, I just don't know about this team. Like, I feel very good today. This is the team I saw the first two weeks. Yeah, these are the temperature-gaging games. Right. You know, whenever it's some other team that you expect to be around in the end, you would like to see
Starting point is 00:06:25 where your team is at right now. A lot of football left, obviously. And shout out to Billy Bones, Pittsburgh Steeler, diehard fan there with the video of Brett Michael's performing a halftime. Also said maybe the audio wasn't perfect, which is why you're talking about it. The Ingers wanted to sing along with Brett. Exactly. They wanted to get after it with Brett. And maybe the echo, maybe where he was at, whatever the case, wasn't perfect for all parties in the building. Would it ever be? And Brett Michael still brought it. I saw him twirling terrible tile, too. He was getting after it. So I don't think it's on him like you tried to make it out to beat. But it was certainly a different half in the second one.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Go ahead, come, man. Did you get that jacket from Brett Michaels? Where'd that come from? I'll tell you what. I think Brett Michael's a man of style would certainly maybe wear this jacket here. This is from NFL Mexico. Make sure you tag them if we post about this one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, NFL Mexico was on the field yesterday. The Laude House, you know, watching the Indianapolis Colts do what the Indianapolis Colts have been doing this season to the Tennessee Titans, which we'll talk more about here. And Raul from NFL Mexico, who we met down at Super Bowl Radio Row, if you do recall, was there. He was on site. And I was chit-chat with some folks. There's always like a reunion before the game is where our suite is.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The view that we had of Jonathan Taylor down that sideline. That was literally unbelievable. Running at. Oh, no, no, a way. So watching his toe, literally just watching his toes from where ours. Yeah, so we're right down, we're literally on the other side. I'm watching right down that sideline, like actually right down that sideline. I have no idea how he stayed in.
Starting point is 00:07:50 His little toes. I don't know. And he's looking down while he's doing it. That would naturally drive you normally. Your head and eyes go a certain way. He is outraged. This guy is outright. This is a second.
Starting point is 00:08:00 He would have a third, obviously, another one. This is only his 80-yard run. This guy absolutely outrageous, but I'm watching it. From where we're at, though, a lot of talking before the game. How you doing? How you doing? Four o'clock game, too. A lot of people coming through there earlier.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yada, yada, yada. Then the NFL Mexico guy comes. Bang, how you doing? Hans, he said we're very appreciative of the conversation we had. Super Bowl, you were very kind to us or something like that. We have a few of these jackets. We'd like to Iser. I've never seen a cooler jacket in my life.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That's so sweet. Sick. You got some in the back. Uh-uh. No Abla? Okay. No problem. You know that's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Oh. What's that? Yeah. Yeah. I know what that means. Until death, I believe, is what it means. Locked in. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah. Viva la Rasa, obviously. Eric Guerrera and Mysterio and El W. and then Asta La Muete. Until death, dude. Until death, dude. I don't know if I'll be able to wear it every day until then, because it is very hot. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It is very hot. Oh, man, it looks cool. Yeah, and it's not a button either. It's a zip. Oh, okay. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, yeah. So this thing can get real hot if you need it in the way.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I also think Dia de los Mueros is coming up. So if you want to wear it for that, too. Is that Cinco de Mayo? That's day of death. Oh, okay. I didn't know. I mean, much much. Muchos, but I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Cicete. I'm trying my best. I did say muchos gracios to me, Amigo, Raoul, and I'd like to continue that. This is one of the coolest things I've ever received. Thank you for this. And shout to the game growing internationally. And on that note, it's time for us to do our first 15. Now remember, this first 15 driven by ram.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Ram trucks is certainly aiming to be a 15-minute segment, okay, where we take the top five headlines coming out of the NFL Sunday slate, and we chit-chat about them. But it's not first 15 minutes necessarily because we please put the clock up here. It's not necessarily the first 15 minutes. It's first 15 place with the goal to be in 15 minutes. Last week was 42 minutes. Close. We're getting better.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Kind of starting to iron down a little bit. Touch on drive. Hey, this was like Texans 9. Methodical. That's the possession that we had, you know, which by the way, they're saying record-breaking possession time since like 2006, Texans absolutely don't. dominated the 49ers in that entirety. So we're going to try to get through these.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Last week was the first time we mentioned how long it was, and we went longer than we've ever gone before. Sure. So let's just, let's try to keep this one tidy. Tidy? Okay. Tidy. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Tidy on three. One, two, three. Tidy. Okay, here we go. Let's start with number five headlines, start to clock. An absolute shite Sunday slate. Listen, we're just going to read through the scores here. We're just going to read through the scores.
Starting point is 00:10:49 38, 14, 35, 25, 25, 35, 32, 32, 30, 13, 44, 24, 24, 36 to 9, 26 to 15, 23 to 3, 38 to 20, 34 to 10, and then, in a barn burner, okay, the Jets win, 39, 38 over the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Okay, so that's the only game that was within one score. Everything else, absolute shite across the board. And don't look now, as I mentioned, 11.5 point spread tonight. Yeah. Marcus Marriota, traveling into the kingdom, in the Chief's Kingdom,
Starting point is 00:11:20 them as an 11.5 point dog. Now, we believe that this commander's team is on a good trajectory. We like what Washington's doing. We appreciate what the commanders are doing. Cliff Kingsbury is an absolute dog. The Chiefs is better than the Chiefs have been. And they're at home. And we all believe
Starting point is 00:11:36 that they're probably going win the game. And if it leads, if it's anything like what yesterday was, this might be a 35 point game. We didn't know that the NFL could produce this. We didn't know that every single game could be a blowout. We started watching those games yesterday and it's like you got the quad box on
Starting point is 00:11:53 and then you got Red Zone channel and you're like I must be missing some games where are these at you just see shite score shite score shite score and it's like well modern NFL there is no such thing as a shite score everybody can come back they didn't everybody was dead early this thing was over quick the NFL obviously can't thrive off of this but these are nice reminders every
Starting point is 00:12:10 once in a while that any given Sunday if you don't show up you can get your ass beat deep yeah you just mentioned this is the complete opposite of what the NFL is on a week to week basis typically it comes down It's a one-possession game. It's a two-minute drive. You know, kicking the field goal, scoring a touchdown, something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:26 But just a bunch of blowouts. Probably expected the Colts Titans to be a blowout. I expect a much better game with the Broncos Cowboys. And then the Dolphins, surprisingly, beat these shit out of the Falcons. So, yeah, just a surprising slate all around. Yeah, we always say on any given Sunday, there's a lot of teams in this league right now who are either bad or on any given Sunday are capable of laying an egg, for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Well, that's – so we played the Pittsburgh Steelers and got blown out a couple of times whenever we were on the Indianapolis quotes. Good days. And it was a good days for you, for sure. You know, it's a nice reminder whenever you ask, because we had a good team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And you just get killed. And it's like you ask the coaches around those times or the players around those times, like the OGs, it's like, yeah, like this could happen a week. You just get a couple guys that don't show up and play good at a couple of positions. That's what the NFL is. I think that's what, like people think these teams are shite.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So people get into the conversation. You know what? Saints, to Ohio State, Indiana would be able to beat the Saints or something like that. People start saying that type of stuff, especially whenever teams are terrible. Then there's always a reminder, like, hey, these are professional athletes getting paid a professional
Starting point is 00:13:30 check to play football. And every once and while, the universe comes together, and you can be great. And every once in a while, the universe comes together and says, you guys suck today. And that can certainly happen to any team. And as soon as you think, you got figured out, like, even as fans are on the outside looking in, you know, I thought
Starting point is 00:13:46 I knew who the Falcons were at this point. You know, okay, maybe they're a much better team. Even the Steelers. I thought the Steelers would show up. The Cowboys, we knew their defense was absolute shite, but I thought they could at least put up points offensively and kind of getting a shootout with the Broncos. So yeah, a lot of question marks still next to a lot of these teams up there. Staff from Hembo and ESPN Research, there's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday. Sunday was the first day with one or zero games decided by single digits since December 20th, 1970. Come on. That's nuts. It's emergent.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Shite indeed. Good addition. Dude, that's almost ostomore. Yeah. That is almost Ossemoirete, dude. Okay, so what shite indeed, says Hembo? Which we agree with shite indeed. I didn't read the 1970 part of that stat.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I just did the whole, that's a long time of football not being shite. We were there for it. Yeah, hell yeah. Hey, we lived through it. Yep, yep. COVID? Yeah, exactly. Okay, I was off the age, you know, 2001, lived through that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Sure. football game of all time, or worst football Sunday of all time, basically. We were a part of that for the NFL. Well, and the real kicker is, you know, typically if we have a shite slate, there's still like maybe one or two games where they'll
Starting point is 00:15:01 at least be close, you know, going down the stretch. I mean, Jets bangles, like that, that was just like, hey, you have Reds on it. I'm like, oh, well, hey, Jets are starting to come back a little bit. I wasn't paying any attention to that game, and it turns out to be by far the best game of the day. Shout out, there's a lot
Starting point is 00:15:17 of potential, you know, spiritual stuff with that particular game, too, for Jets Ledger. Nick Mangold passing away. We would like to send our condolences and positive prayers and vibes, obviously, to his family. He and A.J. Hawk were like, I think, best friends since their kids, same high school, obviously roommates at Ohio State. So we've learned a lot about Nick Mangold, got to know him a lot. Absolute legend of a human. Everything you hear about him, just know that it's in every aspect of his life. Well, this guy was a great teammate. Oh, this guy's a great business partner. Oh, this guy's a great dad. This guy's a great husband, this guy's great. Everything about him was great. We had a chance to catch up with him
Starting point is 00:15:50 a couple weeks ago when everything was going on. And I was trying to get some more information on how we could help maybe on the program and just chat with them. Still talking shit, still quick. The beard was still good. I mean, you're talking utter surprise here. Society has lost a great man. So the Jets getting a huge win on that day was cool. That was like cool to see. Now, I don't think anybody was expecting a 39-38 win. But that being the only, the game that was really in it stinks for the NFL but boy if you're on one of those winning teams let's enjoy yeah let's enjoy these because you know most games very scary yeah are we gonna lose this or are we going to win just being able to about third quarter to say we're way better
Starting point is 00:16:33 in this game let's go ahead and enjoy this little rest of starters yeah you had to call the game for the Colts Titans I assume you did a great job I haven't gone back and listened to it but the boys we had an ear on it so we could pull any clips for it you did a great job on that You had to work that entire game, you know, all the way down to the end. We were having a good time this week. Just know, we were enjoying the hill out of this particular game. And although many would say this game was shite. As a Colts fan, I'd like to let you know, it was fantastic watching that man do us thing.
Starting point is 00:17:01 All right, let's go to the number four headline here. Now, listen, I like that there's a new holiday. Anytime we can create something to celebrate something, I'm with it. Okay. So the people that are push against some of these things that happen, oh, it's too gimmicky, it's too, whatever. like the super duper cup that the NBA put in in the middle of the thing, the commissioner cup or whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:17:19 No, the NBA Cup. NBA Cup, yeah, sorry, the NBA Cup. They put it in the middle of the season. Everybody's like, this is a gimmick. It's like, who cares? We're celebrating. We're getting on trophies. I think they shouldn't be hanging the banners next to the other banners,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but we should still enjoy it. So when National Tight End's Day was created by these tight end university boys who were trying to absolutely build a brand of what their position is, which are dogs across the board. You've got to be tough enough to block. You've got to be athletic enough to be able to get open and catch the ball. and, oh, yeah, normally going to have to be the mentality setter for your entire team. This tight end position is insane, especially with the amount of talent that there is.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And there's a national tight ends day that should be celebrated. And it feels like defensive coordinators should understand the day is existing as well. I know the NFL puts out tweets and puts out shirts and shit like that. I think defensive coordinators need to have somebody on the horn saying, hey, what's going on this weekend? Oh, it's national tight ends day. Do you think offense coordinators are going to target tight ends a little bit more because of that? defense coordinator saying no everybody else around him going
Starting point is 00:18:14 yeah tight ends won off yesterday and it feels like every year on national tight ends day tight ends go crazy Tucker Kraft was the main event he won absolutely absurd what is the Tucker craft story he grew up on a Native American reservation yeah correct in
Starting point is 00:18:31 South Dakota grew up on the reservation and actually was named an honorary member of the tribe for you know because obviously lived on it through high school and everything but yeah He's an absolute dog. Yes, he is. He did a kip-up last night,
Starting point is 00:18:44 on that sod that was unbelievable, runs people over. He's like ultimate warrior. And it seems like he gets their ropes and gets the ball is just like this as well. I couldn't even fathom. They were saying nine-on-nine football or something like that. Imagine him playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Imagine him anything. Now, granted, there's probably, that was filthy. The amount of explosivity that requires there. He did not push off his hands either. Yes, he did. They were just there. If you see that other angle, He didn't push.
Starting point is 00:19:12 He didn't put... Oh, it was just a balance yourself. Yeah, he didn't push it. Okay, because humans like me, even on a springy floor, I need to use hands to shoot myself up. Sure. Not athletic enough. You're saying he just wanted to see where a ground.
Starting point is 00:19:26 He was maybe holding the ground bound, actually. Yeah, could have been. So that he could put on himself. I didn't know humans did it without their hands. Oh, what's that? I didn't know humans did that without their hands. Drew McIntyre actually just from back, no hands, just kicks himself all the way.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That makes sense. Goddard Psychopath. Yeah. Not quite calculated cerebral, but... But whatever it takes, that's an insane thing. But all these tight ends go absolutely crazy. I mean, you go through Goddard had two touchdowns. They got George Kittle, Tongues, Hunter Henry, and Joku, Harold Fanon Jr., Mason Taylor, Gunner Helm,
Starting point is 00:19:59 Charlie Carter, and then let's not even forget, Tyler Warren exists. Didn't score a touchdown on a national tight ends day. Kind of screw Gumpy over on a touchdown parlay. Gumpy was refusing to have a good time because Tyler Warren didn't get any end zone early. I said you're a part of the problem. Gumpy, not a part of the solution here. Should have cashed out whenever it was a $25 bet for $900. You decide to continue to run.
Starting point is 00:20:18 That's all on you. That is not on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's an absolute dog, as are all of these tight ends. Brise Hall throws an incredible touchdown here as we're Moss and folks with Mason Taylor. But Debutts, the position is difficult. I know nickel, obviously, the third corner in, which is now a part of basically every defense is starting pack. Yep, needed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Normally have to square off against tight ends. When did the tight end position transition into these monsters that they are in today's game start to happen? And what did defense is try to do to combat it? I mean, Antonio Gates kind of revolutionized it. I would say in our age group, you know, Williamslow before that as a charger tight end. But yeah, Gronk was kind of like the mode. He was the hybrid, which kind of kiddle is, great blocker, and then also a great receiver. Then Travis Kelsey became like, hey, almost like a bonus wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:21:05 But yeah, they're a matchup problem. They're just so big, they're so athletic, and because of their range, their catch range, their radius, they're always open. Even when the DB or linebackers on them, they can just box you out and go up there and get a rebound. They are just phenomenal talents. And not to mention on Thursday night, Ronde Gaston Jr., he bawled out for the Chargers as well, which another dolphin legend son that we could have drafted just like Mason Taylor, but either here nor there. Hunter Henry is like now the pillar of the Patriots. Is he the longest tenured New England Patriot up there, it feels like? That's a good question, probably.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But, I mean, even on that list of rookies, like Mason Taylor, Debuts just mentioned. He won the game for the Jets. Briece all through the touchdown. Mason Taylor stepped up in the biggest moment. And then if there is one bright spot of that shite Tennessee Titans team, it's Gunner Helm. Gunner Helm has been really good for them too.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And Cam Wurt. Yeah, and Cam Warton. And then also Harold Fanon Jr. for the Browns. He was the only guy making plays for Cleveland yesterday. It's impressive, these young titans coming in. I love the position. as a whole. Just because those guys, what, back in the day, would probably be moved to either defensive end or maybe offensive line or maybe, hey, go play some hoops. Hey, you're an incredible
Starting point is 00:22:17 athlete. You're seemingly not big enough, but too big. Maybe go play some hoops. Now this position is like, hey, if you are the freakiest athlete, we got the position for you. And that's seemingly what it's become. Yeah. Match up problems. Yep. Congrats to the tight ends. Happy national Ta-end day. Omerge, Austin Morete. Yep. National Tide-end Day. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 National Tident Day. All right, it's got to the number three headline coming out of our football weekend. High School Miracles. Now, high school football, obviously, something that we all love. We all grew up being a fan of. Obviously, it's folklore, it's fairy tale. Well, there's two high school situations that happened on Friday night that need to be seen. Let's start here in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:23:00 About an hour and 10 minutes northeast of where we sit here to a football. Eastbrook versus Alexandria. Eastbrook, undefeated on the season. Alexandria needs to win to move on in the playoffs. Eastbrook already has it cemented. We are now with 11 seconds left in the game. Alexandria has the ball, fourth down. Got to run an 11-second play.
Starting point is 00:23:22 What do they end up running? Huh? Run back, run back and still runaway throws it. Boom, four seconds left. Okay, so now there's four seconds left for Eastbrook, the undefeated powerhouse of 2-8. Bodie Howell comes in. Number 15, quarterback for Eastbrook.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Go ahead, play it. What are we going to run? Well, obviously, we're going to run hook and ladder in the annexation of Puerto Rico. Okay, that might be a four lateral there. Recton, call it, though. Stripes down here, didn't see it. Bodie Howell gets the ball back.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He's at his own 15. He's at his own 11. He's getting the edge. Bodie Howe, quarterback, Eastbrook, 6 foot 1, 205 pounds senior on Eastbrook. Ah! Oh!
Starting point is 00:24:02 Ah! humbling, humbling, jumping. Oh, no. Scoring. Wow. Wow. Let's go. Hold the phone. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Hold the phone. There's a flag on the play. Oh, no. It's got to be the forward lateral, right? Back there at the beginning. Has to be. No, it was forward lateral's way back there. Yeah, well, turns out it's not the forward lateral.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It was actually a block in the back on the offensive team. Oh. Okay? So you go ahead and pick that flag up. Congratulations. No play. We're over. Nope.
Starting point is 00:24:33 As there was a lineup for handshakes, because each of these teams thought it was over after a block in the back was called on Eastbrook. The refs say, get back on the sidelines. There's one more untimed down. How does that work? 10 yards from the spot of the foul. Bodie Howe gets an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Boney Howe's not asking, hey, this ain't Bodey's fault. No. Bodie and Eastbrook, boys, this ain't our fault. Hey, listen, make everyone else another play, that's what we're going to do. Bodie Howe going to take advantage of it? Wing-Tee? Yeah, he is. Wing-Tee.
Starting point is 00:25:01 three wide receivers wow give me there so now they score touchdown okay so on time down after their own block in the back after a four lateral
Starting point is 00:25:13 potential hook and ladder annexation of poor Rico that's not there for hey not your blinders it's not it's not it's not bodehouse fault at all now they need to pick up
Starting point is 00:25:23 the two point conversion 29 27 you think bodie house not going to pick it up yeah right roll right out of pocket jump back fade away give me that tie ball game let's go to overtime well Alexandria scores a touchdown on their first series Eastbrook has to answer you think Bodie Howe's going to answer uh yeah I'm keeping it
Starting point is 00:25:41 touchdown what do they're going to tie it up they can tie it up or they're going to go for two go for two oh no Bodie how pitchman's open no way I'll take it they win Eastbrook remains undefeated Alexandria ah Alexandria I like say hardfall game that's incredible work way to the show resilience and scoring overtime. On that note, Bodie Howell, this guy's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:26:05 This guy's unstoppable. What a name. Yeah, it is. Great name. What a name. I mean, what a game. That's a tough one now. Are you familiar with the rules here in the state?
Starting point is 00:26:15 So I don't, in my eyes, in my head, the only time you ever extend a game untimed down is when there's a defensive penalty. Offensive penalties, I never thought there was an extension of the time. You know, because offense wants another play. So if they make a mistake, they're getting rewarded almost by making a mistake.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So I always thought the defensive penalty was leading to the untimed out. Is that how you viewed it? I thought so it was like maybe that's just us covering and playing pro sports. I feel like it was that way in college. But it probably changes state by state with these rules. But this was absolutely wild. Tone Diggs just sent a rule, and I think we could pull it up right now. But the teams thought it was over too.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. Teams, the full video has them. Yeah, the announcer. Now, granted, we had the Alexandria announcer. Sure. He was not as pumped up as the Eastbrook announcer is in the other side. Oh, my God, a miracle. Okay, so Article 3, a period shall be extended by an untimed down if one of the following occurred.
Starting point is 00:27:10 There was a foul by either team, and the penalty is accepted except for those fouls listed in 3-3-4. There was a double foul. There was an inadvertent. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown scored during the last down on the fourth period and the point would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff qualifying. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown scored during the last down of the fourth period in the points. would not affect the outcome of the gamer playoff. What's that mean? Somebody's going to have to explain that to us.
Starting point is 00:27:36 We're all very surprised by it. And congrats to them getting a huge win in Eastbrook and starred Alexandria. And then in Plum Borough. Okay. Pennsylvania? Sure. The Plum Mustangs. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:47 We're playing the Penn Hills. I know that name. That's where, uh... Is it still? Is it still? I don't know. I want to say their mascot name. I had, I had it.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Is it still? Aaron Donald's home A lot of good football Frailic, a lot of good football in Penn Hills Plum Penn Hills Rivalry, okay, a lot of similar humans A lot of similar humans A little bit different, a lot of attack
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like very similar style They border, they border Very close to each other Okay, so this is a... Nick basically lived in Penn Hills This is a rival, yes, exactly This is a rivalry, Penn Hills has always been better in Palm
Starting point is 00:28:27 Penn Hills is always... Penn Hill. At football. Every other thing, we got him. Every other thing we got them. Football, though, they certainly had us. Together play. Ossie plumb needs a win at home. How you doing? Well, Austin
Starting point is 00:28:41 Colenkowski. Colin Koski. Austin Kowenkowski, Section 1 soccer player of the year. Has his field goal blocked the Warrathol. He picks it up. Is it going to get tackled? I don't think so. Strong soccer player.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Kicker, survives 15 yards. Wow. After contact, scores a touchdown because the boys rally, Plum's going to the playoffs. And Austin Colen Koski, the player of the year in Section 1, Class 4A, is obviously an absolute dog. I believe the Plum Soccer team is currently on a playoff run. And now, because of that, the Plum football team is also on a playoff run. They're going to go to USC, okay? That's going to be taught down.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Wow. Is that a good squad, too? Oh, they're pretty good. Yeah, they're a pretty good team. John Lee. We're not worried about nothing. We're not worried about nothing. We're going to give Austin Colenkowski the ball. We should think about maybe getting an Austin Polkowski to ball.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And Johnny Nandenberg spending it. The boys are ready for the moment. Congrats to Plum. Getting a miraculous win here. Blocked kick. Kicker picks it up. Go ahead and let me grab this. Penn Hills guy has him immediately.
Starting point is 00:29:48 That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. Being too strong. Being too strong. St. Rugby. We're not going to get into that. Shout out to high school football showing up.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And number two headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes is we're running it back, back, back, back, back, back to the 80s. Nice. Hell yeah. Running backs are leading the top teams in the league. Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts, absolutely insane. James Cook, obviously absurd with the bills. And guess who's back?
Starting point is 00:30:15 Back, back, back back again. Sequin Barclay had his day yesterday. A.J. Brown, not playing because of a hamstring injury. And against the New York Giants, obviously massive rivalry in the beautiful Kelly Green uniforms, which the Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated. And Sequan Barkley found his groove. Sequin got all the way back to who he was last year whenever he led them to a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And the offensive line, same damn thing. Jalen Hertz obviously under center a bit more is the stats that you're going to hear from Dan Rolovsky in the second hour because he's been calling for this for a while. But it feels like the Eagles might have got their groove back debunk. Yeah, sometimes just take that one big player, that one big game and definitely Seacuan had it.
Starting point is 00:30:53 These Kelly Green jerseys are unbelievable. So clean. I believe they moved to 5-0 now while wearing these. Not only to have these jerseys on, but he had those sweet LeBron cleats on that he was gracing the matting cover with. A lot of people are saying, hey, this is a Madden curse coming here for 2-6, but hopefully he lifted that curse off with this game.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Yeah, it was some more under the center, some extra O'Lignment stuff. So I love to see it. Interesting to see how they handled the A.J. Brown situation going forward. Yeah, a lot of conversation around that, obviously. Sequan Barkley Rush Yards under center snaps. This is from Hembo. Weeks one through 7, 102 yards. week eight alone 116 yards
Starting point is 00:31:27 So, you know, Petullo was trying to get his feet up on, he didn't have a lot going on. And they started figuring it out. And this is an Eagles team. I think we all understand with the amount of talent that they have, that if they do figure it out, right back in Super Bowl conversations, even though everybody's trying to bury them all the time. And the number one headline
Starting point is 00:31:43 coming out of the weekend, as we all knew, talking about Super Bowl. Coach going to win. The Colts going to win Super Bowl. This is just, I think, seven out of the eight weeks, we've done this first 15. This has been the number one headline. strictly because I've been watching every single snap,
Starting point is 00:31:57 so it's pretty biased program. My name's in, I apologize. These dudes are unbelievable. They don't really have a flaw right now. Honestly, we lose to the Rams. That's our only loss, and we all understand what happened in that game. We certainly should have won that.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Los Angeles Rams took advantage of the situation and definitely won. That guy right there, though, seemingly untackable. He's on pace to break every record there is. Four games with three plus touchdowns. Okay, that's just absolutely insanity. He has more touchdowns than some teams as a whole. And that means the offense lines back to doing what they're
Starting point is 00:32:25 doing. We all saw a screenshot of one of the holes that he had to hit yesterday. I mean, there's an actual freight train that is possible to go through. The offensive line of taking a lot of pride in what they're doing this year. Yeah, I mean, that is, now, granted, I'm not saying that Jonathan Taylor isn't unbelievable, and Jonathan Taylor finds holes that might appear to be this big. But if you give Jonathan Taylor this hole right here, I mean, yeah, we're going to be okay. And that's what Saquan was last year with Philadelphia. It feels like that's what our offense is matching up. And Danny Dimes is putting us in the right situation every time. I mean, this guy is a super genius. And just every throw he seemingly
Starting point is 00:32:59 going to the right place. He very rarely misses. And then Michael Pittman Jr. has like one of the nicest touchdown catches of all time. I'm down here in the corner, can't see it all. I see that guy draped over top of him. I just flag, thank you. We're about to have first down on the one this amazing. And here everybody go crazy. And I turned my back. No way this dude got this. They showed six highlights of this thing in the stadium immediately. Great work by the stadium operators, every angle looked better. Like, the first angle was insane. Second angle, he's like, that is clearly
Starting point is 00:33:28 a one-handed catch that he goes through a guy. Third angle, it's like what his other hand was doing in there. It's like, this guy is an absolute dog, has been willing to sacrifice his whole body on the field. Last year when Colts were what they were, which I think everybody in that locker room now would come to grips with maybe they
Starting point is 00:33:43 weren't operating like a professional football team in all aspects, especially with what they've been able to do this year. It's unbelievable. Pitman, in the middle of that run, full dolphin dive in the middle of his body gets bent backwards folded in half gets off goes back out there does it again that this guy will lay his body on the line for us alec pierce as well it's just like tyler warren is outrageous and then on defense aside we got to tighten some things up of course felt like the titans had some opportunities and uh we didn't
Starting point is 00:34:14 know what they were doing i mean there was a couple plays where maybe they got lou where we had a bad call and boy they had a good play call on their side and cam ward was able to make some big time plays but like the colts are very comfortable with where they're at right now and i think they're all talking the same way they know that they got a lot of shit still to prove and the mvp chance were very real for jonathan taylor yesterday de butt yeah he's unbelievable the combination of speed uh power vision like once he gets to that second or third level just very like sequan was last year it can go for a home run in any given time and obviously it starts with the office creating those gaps and then him finding them and then exploiting what happens on the back end.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And then a lot of people comparing this season to Sequins. We haven't had a non-QB MVP since 2012 and it was Adrian Peterson. But his touchdown total already up to 14. I think Sequan had 15 a total of all last year. You know, Jalen Hertz stole a bunch of them with the quarterback sneaks. But he is phenomenal. 28, unbelievable with the long list of great running backs that have played for the organization. He's kind of the next one up.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And then you talked about Daniel Jones. Just complete control of the offense. You saw plenty of time with, like, less than, you know, 12 or 10 seconds on the clock, and he's making some last minute audible. And the guys around him, it's like, just take your turn. It's very much like the Green Bay Packers. It's not necessarily that one guy who's going to come in and get 15 targets every Sunday. But Pittman, Pierce, Downs, when it's his turn.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Warren, whenever his turn. These guys just shows up, and they put, and Daniel Jones has been doing a great job, putting the ball on them, just controlling the game on every aspect. Man, I absolutely loving what I'm seeing from this. Indianapolis Coast team. And one of the things that we were so excited about with Anthony Richardson was the fact that he was mobile. Like if you go back to that photo of the wide, big gaping hole that J.T. ran through, like, the threat of Danny Dimes being mobile is one thing. Like, even if you look on the right side, they're like, that guy is moving right because they think, hey, maybe Dimes has this on a boot.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Maybe he's running the ball. And that is, you know, opening up things even more for JT. So, like, just Danny Dimes being out there is how, Jay. Shane Steichen, obviously with Philadelphia at the beginning of this whole thing, saw the benefits of Jay what Haley had, which I think is why Anthony Richardson was so enticing for the Indianapolis Colts. It's like, hey, look what Shane was able to do with Jalen. Anthony Richardson, we should be able to do that. Not giving up on Anthony Richardson, but it certainly didn't click with Shane Steikin's offense as quick. And obviously with the injuries didn't really have that much
Starting point is 00:36:35 of an opportunity. But Danny Dimes is a more than suitable runner. And I think that was where a lot of people were like, are we going Anthony Richardson or Danny Dimes? Who's going to be the starter for this team? And they're like, well, the future of the NFL, you got to be able to run. It's like, Hey, I understand he looks like he's like maybe a farmer or a banker, depending upon how he's dressed on the day. And he doesn't give much reaction. Doesn't give much reaction. They put a camera on him.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So they did an in-stadium entertainment. You know, the helmet shuffle. Sure. I think it's the best one. I think the helmet shuffle is the best one. There's an overrated, underrated one. Then there's like a celebrity lookalike one where they go around the entire place. Last one, Indiana Jones pops up.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And everybody starts getting a sense of what's happening. Offense is on the field. This is in the middle of the game. second quarter maybe and then they slide it over and there's just this boom close up on Daniel Jones place goes absolutely ape shit for him right
Starting point is 00:37:24 he looks up for like half a second sees himself oh no head back down starts like jogging in place starts like working back place is going absolutely apeshit for him and he's just like completely locked in doesn't even acknowledge it you can see there's a little blushing maybe like a little bit of
Starting point is 00:37:39 this is not like the most comfortable but right back into the huddle and I think the next play we're off and running it's like he's just locked in I think he's so calloused from what happened to him. He got his ass beat in New York, both physically and also through the media. This guy stinks, what a bust, let alone
Starting point is 00:37:54 the hard-knock shit. You get rid of Sequin. Guy goes and has an MVP year. Why? Because we bet on this guy. It's just like he has been hardened by it all, and we are reaping the benefits of it, and his next contract they're talking about it's about to be big. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Michigan man who can certainly
Starting point is 00:38:10 help us fill in the gaps on anything that we miss. We appreciate the hell out of them. And overreaction Monday, first 15 regular. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schafter. Chefty, how you doing, buddy? Oh, that's a beautiful jacket, Pat. Very stylish, very stylish. Much Gracious.
Starting point is 00:38:29 This is from NFL Mexico, obviously. It feels delightful. It's hot as hell in here. I am sweating, but we will certainly represent and continue to do so. What do we need to know coming out of yesterday? Obviously, the Scataboo injury was very scary. Complete dislocation that looked nasty. Obviously, any time that takes place.
Starting point is 00:38:46 people don't love it. Is there any other stories that maybe we didn't hit there over the top five headlines that you have out of a blowout Sunday for the NFL? You know, as you guys get ready to playing your Super Bowl parade, there's a few things that did want to point out there with going on with Indianapolis. Daniel Jones has played
Starting point is 00:39:02 six games in which he hasn't turned over the football at all. At all. And Jonathan Taylor is on pace right now for 28 touchdowns this season, which is pretty good. 28 touchdowns. You win 28 touchdowns. You win 28 You get a 20-8 touchdowns you generally should win an MVP.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Ladanian Tomlinson, I think, has the record more than that. But he has to be considered an MVP candidate. The issue is, as Debup pointed out, the last 12 MVPs have all been quarterbacks. It's turned into, generally speaking, a quarterback award. And I would imagine, before the season is through, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, some other quarterbacks who have something to say about whether or not Jonathan Taylor does win the MVP. But today, on October 27th, Jonathan Taylor is the MVP. Today, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:52 The guy's been incredible. He has been speed, power, production, everything you'd want. But again, let's see if one of these quarterbacks overtakes him for what has become the most valuable quarterback, not the most valuable player award in the last 12 years. His celebration, too, there was a toddler race as one of the breaks. Yeah, I think like a three-year-old, maybe three or four-year-olds racing against each other. and the little boy that won the race he did the Jonathan Taylor Filthy. He did the Jonathan Taylor
Starting point is 00:40:20 as a celebration. I thought to myself it's like he has a clean celebration also doable. You know like the celebration is doable. We've all seen people try to attempt the gritty. Okay. Gisicki and others. And there are certainly people that are great at the gritty. This one looks great. Seemingly
Starting point is 00:40:37 can do it as well. Everything about him right now is throwing 110 and I think he's capable of doing it all year. tough guy. Had a couple injuries, but before that, literally never missed the game. He's all the way back to being exactly who we thought he was. Now, speaking of being all the way back, there's a Thursday night game. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shephty, do you have more information on the Ravens' whole ordeal with basically retroactively changing Lamar's practice status on Friday? Obviously, a lot of people were up in arms about that.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Are they going to, are the Ravens going to face some serious repercussions here for how this went down, or what more do you know about this situation? The league is going to conduct interviews this week. The Ravens continue to insist that it was an honest mistake in their words, and there was an accident, and they don't believe that they did anything wrong here. Now, the league will obviously talk to enough people and make a determination about whether or not a fine is warranted in this particular case. I don't think if the league finds wrongdoing, that they're going to go more than a fine,
Starting point is 00:41:34 but we'll see how this works out. This comes, obviously, at a time in the sports world where there is a lot of attention. on injury reports now. And I would imagine that you're going to see more and more attention paid to this, that the league is going to be very sensitive to teams reporting accurate, honest injury information as we go along. They don't want anything like what's happened here in sports the last week. And so I think the penalties could be tied to that.
Starting point is 00:42:04 My guess is there'll be a fine. The league will do the interviews this week, and they'll make a determination about whether or not there is a basis for a fine or something. I'm sure of discipline. Okay. And what are your takeaways from the teams that look like absolute shite yesterday? Yesterday there was a stat that Hembo and ESPN research gave us like, that was the least amount of one score games since 1970 or something from the NFL Sunday.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I mean, it's like it was historically, legitimately, historically terrible day of football. Now, if you're on a winning team, you feel good. Bad teams obviously feel absolutely terrible. What is your thoughts on how yesterday when? What are some teams that maybe shouldn't be as maybe moody with their teams as they probably are after a blowout or a shalacking, if you will? Well, again, it's interesting because a week ago, everybody's calling for Mike McDaniel to be fired. And a week later, they go into Atlanta and beat the Falcons, which who would have imagined that would have happened? Even with Kirk Cousins starting at quarterback, the Cincinnati Bengals have an opportunity to move within a half game of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC North and to make a row.
Starting point is 00:43:11 in that division. They have a 15-point lead in the third quarter, a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter against a Jets team that had yet to win a game against a quarterback that the owner of that team criticized last week. And by the way, let me say this. Justin Fields handled the events of last week like a polished professional. He should be applauded for the way that he acted, the way that he reacted to what Woody Johnson said about him. He went out yesterday and played a great game. He's thrown 167 passes this year and is not thrown an interception. Only quarterback not to do that. He's got the lowest interception rate in the league. I know he's only thrown it 167 times, but that's all 167 passes. And it comes in a week
Starting point is 00:43:58 again where he got thrown under the bus by his own owner, where the owner acted like some young, inexperienced player who was not used to dealing with the media. He did. And the player, acted like a polished, successful, seasoned, experienced owner. Successful. And then the player goes out and leads this team to its first win of the season. It was very impressive to see.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And I think Justin Fields deserves a lot of credit. And then, you know, you flip it around, like, and the Bengals, they lose Joe Burrow in that game earlier in the year, and they'll always remember that. But they're going to remember that loss yesterday because they had a chance to close the gap in the AAC North and let that get away. A YouTube TV commercial runner right now. It's hilarious, especially with everything that happened over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But Sunday ticket is absolutely awesome. Every game, every Sunday, all in one place. Shout to YouTube TV. And a Sunday ticket, it is certainly fantastic. When the quad boxes all have blowouts, all have blowouts. It's like, wait, do I got to change my multi? Let me change my multi here. Nope, put six more in that bad boy. We got bad things all over the place. But you're right, the Bengals having a situation there. which leads to, because Trey Hendrickson's always going to be talked about. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shafty, we are basically one week away from the NFL trade deadline. It kind of feels like things have cooled off since that one week where we had a ton. Besides just asking you about, like, random people, do you have any teams or names specifically that you think we should be watching?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Well, I think that there'll be a wide receiver move or two made before the deadline. Everybody's been calling the Saints checking in there. Rashid Shahee, Chris Olavi, they're not going to get rid of Chris Oliva, they want him. Brandon Cooks, I think at least one of those wide receivers gets traded here in the next eight days. The team's calling the Miami Dolphins about Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips, won't be a surprise if at least one of those players gets traded here in the next eight days. Dolphins are a short week this week, so it might be tough to make a move this week, but then would be ideal timing after a Thursday night game to see if they can make a move after that. So this could be the last game for a dolphin or two on Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens. Buying, selling, there's a team.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Shafty, what about teams like the Patriots who maybe came into the year, you know, not expecting much, but have, you know, come alive pretty quick. And then teams also like the Vikings who have kind of had a disappointing start and they have a couple of players that are young and need to be paid. And, you know, they might not have enough to go around for everybody. What about those types of situations? Well, the Patriots are very interesting to me because to me,
Starting point is 00:46:40 they're a little bit like the commanders were last year. There were not a lot of people expecting Washington to be in the spot that it was. And because they had won and because they had been so successful, they went out and then traded for Marshawn Latimore at the deadline. And I can see the Patriots making a move here, whether it's for a defensive back, whether it's for another running back, for a little bit of running back depth, whether it's for another wide receiver, although those wide receivers are playing really well right now. I could see New England saying, hey, we're in this great spot right now. We got a chance to beat Buffalo for the division.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We got a chance to host a home playoff game. A lot of excitement. Drake May is lighting it up right now. By the way, he actually also is in the MVP conversation right now with the way that he's played so far. And, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if New England made a move here before the deadline. That would be fun to see for Connor and all the assholes who obviously know what great ball looks like. and Connor since day one of watching Drake May
Starting point is 00:47:41 and said, this guy's a guy, this guy's a guy, even whenever all hell was seemingly breaking loose around him and the sky was on fire and everything like that, Drake has always been good if you ask the Patriots fans. Now with Braves, and McDaniels, it's like he's getting everything that he can possibly do out of them and also they've got a team around him and they're making smart decisions.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Are the Patriots all the way back? And then they make a big-time trade. Do you guys still have money? You guys still have money, I think we have the second most money right now or the first. I forget. Oh, they can make a big! Oh, yeah. They can make a big.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Any big fish out there? Hey, hey, you know what? We used to get regular playoff matchups between the Patriots and Galtz. Big ones. Matt, could you see another one this year? Patriots and Cults again. That would be pretty cool, huh?
Starting point is 00:48:26 I was in a couple of those when I didn't know what I was doing. It would have been cool to be good at my job when those moments were happening, you know? Those ones I was just hanging on for dear life out there. You know, like, don't hit a shank here. Everybody else is really good. good, you are not that great. Let's not be the reason. I was in the fourth and two game as a
Starting point is 00:48:43 rookie. I felt honestly like legit the one time my career where I felt like I was just like an extra in the movie. Like I had no control. I'm lined up across like, all right, I got Reggie Wayne and Peyton's looking at me fucking making checks. I'm like, oh, I don't know what we're going. You're one of the only ones that's been on both sides, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's been a few of us. If it means anything, I was standing on the sideline there like this, thinking I was in a movie. Yeah, this is stupid. I got no control over anything that's about to happen,
Starting point is 00:49:11 but boy, we're about to have a good time tonight. Melvin Bullitt makes a big time play. Huge. Peyton goes crazy. The Colts win. What a time to be alive. I had no idea what I was doing. It was a good time.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It was great. Yeah, Colts Patriots seemingly all the way back. Speaking of back, let's talk a little quarterbacks. Go ahead, Debuts. Yeah, Shephton. Give us a little layer of the land with the quarterback injuries that are out there. I know Bryce Young, Jaden Dan is obviously missing tonight again. Michael Pinnock Jr.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Who else? We saw Joe Burrell with no boots. Pretty update. Pruddy. We got any updates with the quarterback landscape around the NFL? Well, I think the guys that I feel pretty confident will be back this week. Lamar Jackson, Thursday night in Miami. I think we see him back this week.
Starting point is 00:49:52 J.J. McCarthy, I think we see him back this week against the Detroit Lions. I think we see Kyler Murray on Monday night. And then you raised a few of the other guys, right? Bryce Young, Carolina, ankle injury could be back. We'll see. Brock Purdy could be back. see. Kyle Shannon is going to talk to the media later today. There's always, there always seems
Starting point is 00:50:09 to be some sort of injury news of the 49ers that you don't expect in the afternoon on a Monday after a game. We'll see what happens today with that, but Brock Purdy could be back for them. There was another quarterback you mentioned, aside from those three, and Bryce Young and Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Daniels. Jayden. Jayden Daniels, they play Sunday night against the Seattle Seahawks. And I just think a guy that's had a knee injury and a hamstring injury and some injury issues. Hamstrings, you've got to be really careful with them. Look how careful Lamar's been.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I won't be surprised if we don't see Jaden again on Sunday night. The hamstring is like once it happens, right? Doesn't it kind of become like a thing people get scared about? You got to give it time to Hill and it's, you know, obviously players and coaches aren't trying to do that in the middle of the season. You're in a situation like the Ravens, like you want your star quarterback back. That was kind of the conversation outside of that building too, where the Ravens trying to almost force Lamar to get in there.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So, interesting how that's how that played. That's kind of put a little public pressure on it. But that's just, you know. Yeah, there's conspiracies for everything, obviously, and the NFL is going to get into it. And I assume they will try to set a precedent on misrepresenting somebody's health status, especially in this gambling world that we're in, which is really stunning.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Do you hear about the country of Turkey? Oh, boy. Okay, we're too close to Thanksgiving to be talking about Turkey already. But whenever you're talking about the country of Turkey, there's some crazy scandal. Let's talk about tonight. We talked about the commanders. Ten and a half point dogs now at the Kansas City Chiefs. Any injury news that we need to think about before we make our picks this evening,
Starting point is 00:51:42 Shephti, or any other storylines we should be thinking about? Well, obviously, Terry McClure and Debo Samuel, both back for Washington. Marcus Marriota steps in and starts for Jaden Daniels. And again, I think we're used to seeing backup quarterbacks do well, and maybe Marcus won't tonight, but he's won there in the playoffs. He beat Alex Smith in a playoff game. And I can tell you that I think the organization, is confident in Marrior. They feel like he is more than capable of stepping in and playing a good game.
Starting point is 00:52:09 We'll see if he can do that tonight. On the other side of the football, obviously Rishi Rice back for another week. Kareem Hunt is off the injury report. They wanted to get Breschard Smith, their rookie running back more involved. We'll see if that happens tonight. And they're still missing the left tackle, Josh Simmons, but there's a feeling that he could be back here now in Kansas City in a couple of weeks, which is encouraging, dealing with some personal issues there. sounds like he will be back here in fairly short order, which is great news. Pretty cool that it's just expected Taylor's going to be there and it's not breaking news. Good for them. Hey, good for them. Good spot. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:52:46 All right, Jeffty, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Good luck tonight from your office. Enjoy the games tonight, guys. Thank you for having me. What do you think? You think the shite weekend continues tonight or no? I hope not. I hope we get a good game. I hope we get a good game. I think we have a chance. Yeah, me too. I think it may be. be a little bit closer to the building, but Kansas City's a juggernaut right now.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They're better than they ever been. But on that note, as soon as you said, do you think that it's going to be a good game? Talks the table just gave a fool. I hope it is. You're the man, ladies have been, Adam Schaefter. We all hope it is. Amen. Amen. You know, I think I'm getting older. These games are getting later, it feels like. Oh, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, I'm watching these games. Wow, today's been pretty shitty day of football. This one's going to get real good tonight. though. Then I'm watching Baws, just murder balls. I'm like, yeah, Boswell. Chris Baza will keep me awake tonight. Yes, he will. He's hitting dingers every single time. He's like the damn Dodgers. Now
Starting point is 00:53:43 granted, hold on. World Series game tonight, right? Yes, game three tonight. Game three tonight. We got Dodgers came back one game two. Correct. Blue Jays won game one. Yep. They beat the hell out of Dodgers. 11 to 4, yeah, had the first pinch hit Grand Slam in the history of the World Series.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Okay, so I've been watching these games. It's been good. You know the reason why I'm watching and people are going to hate me for this, but I grew up in Pittsburgh, so I'll get off my ass. I used to like the Yankees. Sure. Because the Yankees spent more money in everybody. And I like, you know what, if you're allowed to kind of just spend more than everybody, I like that the Yankees are doing that. Now what I'm realizing is, with all the star power that the Dodgers have, I like them because they're the new, they spend more money and everybody. Yeah. And I think I enjoy that. Now, a lot of people hate that, I think, in the baseball. Certainly. But I am watching because
Starting point is 00:54:33 I want to see the big money boys. I want to see the big money boys kind of see if they can show up in a big moment. And they did. A lot of people saying this is not going back to Toronto. They think this Dodgers kind of opened it up. It's going to be over now? I mean, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:54:46 If you're a Dodgers fan, that's kind of the whole idea is, hey, this team's so deep that just like over a seven game series, like it's impossible to sustain what the Blue Jays did in game one. But that's why the Blue Jays are such a tough out because they don't have any of these like massive superstars outside of Vladdy, maybe but they just like that first game i mean i we see what the dodgers did here and they had to win uh you know yamamoto once again through a complete game and like he's just been unbelievable and he's one of those guys like that's why you pay 325 million dollars that's why
Starting point is 00:55:18 you go get the best guys because they have an impact when it matters most but like the blue jays you're just they're they're tough to kill because they got a bunch of these guys who maybe i mean it's obviously different in the majors but like casual fans don't respect them don't know the guy's names and that's all they do is single, single, single. And then some guy shows up massive and hits a homer when a couple guys are on base. And the Dodgers, the big thing with them the whole time has been, hey, if you can get to their bullpen, that's where they're susceptible. Like when Yamamoto throws a complete game, that completely eliminates that. Good Aces, spend a lot of money. Exactly. Not a lot of depth. And tonight we got
Starting point is 00:55:51 Max Scher, who is, you know, just a perennial playoff. Mad Max. Making his fourth start for the fourth different team in the World Series, which is. 41 years old starting in the World Series. Congrats to him. What a Marvel that is. And they should not be played on a Monday. It's football season. Move this shit to tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Okay? I'm done with it. There's only two teams left, right? Yes, correct. Move it to tomorrow. Well, it's 23-0. I'll wait. It's been a shite weekend.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Hold on. Shout out to the World Series tonight. Shout out to the World Series tonight. And I would say, like, tonight would be like a decent one if you want to put the two box up there because you can just have football on and then just kind of monitor. in silence what's going on in the baseball. I've been watching the baseball, though. I would like to say thank you to the baseball.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Thank you. It's been fun. Would like it to be tomorrow, though. Sure. It would be cool if it was tomorrow, but if the night's a blowout, baseball got our backs. I appreciate that. Basketball's happening as well. You know what's better than the one big thing?
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Starting point is 00:58:09 of the NFL season. It has been a shite slate thus far. And tonight, the Washington commanders, led by Marcus Marietta, will travel to the kingdom and take on the Kansas City Chiefs as 10.5 point dogs. Could this be yet another blow up for the NFL
Starting point is 00:58:27 to have to put their PR machine on? I will appreciate the hell out of whatever stat comes out of the NFL on Tuesday or Wednesday. If this is a blowout, you never know what you're going to get with the NFL. This is the first time since, blah, blah, bye, and that's real, by the way. I think it was an eye-opening experience for a lot of fan bases yesterday, but also maybe a little bit of optimism grabbed by some of these teams that although you maybe thought you were okay, maybe just good, maybe yesterday you found out you're maybe great.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Holy hell, you can pound another football team if you have to. There's a lot of hope that you can pull from yesterday, and there's a lot of misery that people are certainly grasping onto after getting blown out. the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer Todd. Cowboys, A. P. Ton is here. Good night for a Steelers last night. Everybody loved those uniforms. Don't understand why they did those ones.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Hey, we got Sunday night football. Aaron Rogers, playing the Packers. Let's dress like assholes. What happened, Donner? Did anybody see those things before they went on TV? I did. I tried to warn everybody last week. I said this is going to be horrendous. way you could have described these things showing up to my eyes. I said
Starting point is 00:59:35 it's going to be horrendous. It's up there against the Chargers uniforms for the worst uniforms in the NFL this season. Yellow is just a horrendous color, but you know what? They looked incredible for a half and the boys were buzzing. So you're going to spin that there was good uniform actually if they get to win last night because I started
Starting point is 00:59:51 thinking that when I first saw them come on TV and on my algorithm and everything as they were debuting on entrances. I was like, wow, those are absolute trash. I cannot believe you would put those in for the Sunday night football, Steelers, Packers, Jordan Love, Aaron Rogers game. Almost sabotage.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Try to sabotage the game putting these uniforms out there. I wasn't happy. Then as the game continued to roll on, you're like, okay, they are ass, but yeah, maybe if they win, it's not that big of a deal. And then as it starts unraveling, it's like, man, ass unies, tough night, big loss, and a reminiscent moment for Steelers fans saying,
Starting point is 01:00:28 we can't win Super Bowl, which is what you guys did last night. Yeah, you can't. You just physically can't tackle in those uniforms. That's my big takeaway. Like if they were wearing the throwback, the black with the white block letters, you know, that would have been probably, you know, a much better performance or, you know, the black with the yellow, the color rush.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But those ones, they were just behind the eight ball from the start. Well, it's hard to tackle a guy that grew up on. Yeah, the Cheyenne, you know, reservation there in South Dakota. It's a really long name. It's multiple names. I don't want to just spit those out there. and get him wrong. I should have looked. I'm sorry. Can you tell me about Tucker Kraft a little bit? He did grow up on a Native American
Starting point is 01:01:07 Reservation. Yeah, in South Dakota. I believe he got named like an honorary. Yeah, he's an honorary member of the tribe for, you know, like acts of community service that he did within the reservation and with the people that lived there with him. And he's untackable. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Think about that. What a story the NFL has now out of a guy from the Dakota out of middle of a reservation. Another very important
Starting point is 01:01:30 tidbit on Tucker Craft he said after the game that the program is one of his favorite movies and any guy any young player that loves the program, he's good with me. So yeah, he's automatically one of my favorite tight is he plays pissed off, oh, was that a headbutt
Starting point is 01:01:47 without, boom, boom, yeah, there we go, a little ladder there, first team defense. Love that. Yeah, that's who he referenced for the program conversation when he was asked, hey, did you headbutt somebody without a helmet on? Absolutely. received program just went right into it so and he didn't even blink there like that would just at least startle you a little bit yeah and he he actually want he went for it a little bit harder actually and
Starting point is 01:02:07 it's those types of blockheads that can really scare you yeah if there's no fear of any brain damage happening whenever you're slamming it off of a helmet that is made to protect and inflict other things you got to think this guy is uh maybe unbreakable now on that note we see another large head like this on a on a daily basis yeah we do ladies and gentlemen join joining us now. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and an owner of one of the dentists craniums in the history of mankind. Ladies a gentleman, AJ Hawk. AJ, as a Green Bay Packer, uh, legend, all the time leading tackler there, when you see somebody, or should I say something like Tucker Kraft, do what
Starting point is 01:02:55 he does? What is your thoughts on this team and this huge, huge win on Sunday night in Pittsburgh, AJ. I mean, Tucker Kraft is awesome. I mean, he's awesome before even his head button dudes with no helmet on. But that little tidbit about the program, that really puts it over the top for me. I mean, I'm 41 years old. The fact that Tucker Kraft even knows what the program is, let alone it's his favorite movie, tells you a lot of what you need to know about this guy.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Obviously, freakishly athletic, I think that people don't give him credit for. Yeah, and National Tight Ends Day, so I think he showed up like he had to represent. And they talk about no number ones. There's no number ones there for Green Bay. There never has been really, right? I mean, that's kind of been the storyline. Now, Golden gets drafted in the first round, and obviously Watson's back. But they share the wealth out there.
Starting point is 01:03:37 It feels like Jordan Love is just going wherever he needs to go for the best possible outcome. They talk about turnovers with Jordan Love and, you know, a little bit gunslinger. He certainly had a couple of those plays as well. There's a little Jordan Love experience that goes alongside Jordan Love playing football, but I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. You think the Packers can go on a run after what you saw last night against his Pittsburgh Steelers team? Yeah, I definitely do. I mean, they just got to figure out and you've got to make sure you're all healthy at the right time
Starting point is 01:04:01 and you're playing well at the end. We know it's a long season, but I like that gunslinger mentality that Jordan Love has. I like that he's not scared to push the ball down the field. Like, he's definitely not dinking his dunking the way down to these touchdowns. So it maybe helps him a little bit not having a bona fide, number one, that you feel like pressure to push the ball to because he truly has so many weapons out there. And, man, Tucker Craft really is separating himself, I think, as a tight end. Yeah, Tyler Warren, obviously a good conversation.
Starting point is 01:04:26 but you talk about like Josh Allen. Josh Allen doesn't have any number ones. He just tries to make the best absolute play. He frees up the quarterback a lot. Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis, similar situation, kind of free up the quarterback a good bit. Now, when it comes to the Green Bay Packers to win a Super Bowl, can you guys run ball stop to run, tie?
Starting point is 01:04:41 I mean, that is the one thing that they kind of need to get going is Josh Jacobs. He's got a lot of touchdowns, but they haven't had the same success on the ground this year that they did last year. Because early on, like you remember when Love was banged up and they were playing with Malik, You know, they ran the ball very effectively. And then, yeah, I think their defense has been very solid. Like, they've been better stopping the run this year than any years, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:05 in the last 10 that I can remember off the top of my head. Okay, who's great in the NFC, con man? We got obviously the Eagles are back to being the Eagles. Yeah. Bucks have a close one. Yeah. Bucks, obviously defense does what they got to do. Packers in that conversation, I believe.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, I don't know if I put them in that conversation yet just because we don't even know if they're going to win their division. Like the lions are, they were on the by, so we're just kind of like, forget the lions. Yeah, and the bears. Whoa, whoa, we're not forget the lions. No, no, no, no. But we have certainly out of sight out of mind. Yeah, exactly. It's one of those things.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Like, when your team's on the buy, you do, you just naturally forget about it. Like, even the Rams, you know? I would put the Rams up there above the Packers just at this moment. Oh, the Seahaw! I'm not going that far, but Rams, for sure. I think the Rams, as far as, like, complete teams, you just mentioned stopping the run and running the ball, the Rams can do all that, and they have Matt Stafford still. Hey, how about the Packers, though, up there?
Starting point is 01:05:58 Hell, yeah. Plus 700 Super Bowl odds, especially after having a big win last night with Brett Michaels on a mic. Yeah. They killed it, by the way. So. Agreed. I think watch.
Starting point is 01:06:09 All reports I got, you guys got reports in the stadium, right? I got many reports from the stadium that absolute electric the whole time. Really? Where, it might have been sitting in different spots because we got messages from different situations in the stadium. Higher ups that weren't able to hear everywhere Brett Michaels. was saying, obviously, that's a little bit of a letdown. I can't see the greatness. I can't hear. Where's the stage here, though?
Starting point is 01:06:30 Where's the stage? They normally do it behind the one end zone. Last time I was there when they did a concert, it was Whiz. It was behind the one end zone where the entrances. The world is the stage for Brett Michaels. But in this particular night, I think they do have them on a little bit of a platform. I think that's a little bit of a tough look air as well. But nonetheless, Brett Michaels brings it.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And we appreciate him bringing it. He was holding that terrible towel like this. too. His shoulder and trap game was very impressive. It's all he does, all day, every day. Yeah, we're very proud of Brett Michaels making it to the big show, you know, and Brett Michael's been doing a lot of good things for a lot of people
Starting point is 01:07:06 for a long time. And the fact that Ty said that, he was the reason why the I just said, I saw a lot of that out there. I didn't, listen, I love Brett Michaels. I didn't specifically say that. A lot of people were saying, wow, the game really turned on its head, after Brett Michaels performed at halftime.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Every rose as it's It's got some hits. Just like every night has it gone. Hopefully it didn't play. This would be a tough one to play
Starting point is 01:07:39 for a stadium for a football fan. Every cowboy sing for a sad, sad song. Every rose. Has thorns. Yeah. You kind of got it.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Did you see the poll report for the referee after the game? Everyone saw where, you know, Aaron drew Parsons offside, I believe. I can't remember Devante Wyatt. Wyatt next to him. The referee said he was still so memorized from the concert at halftime. That's why they missed the offside squal. Oh, he was hypnotized by Brett Michael as well. Every rose has its thorn.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And the rose is obviously Brett Michael's performance. The thorn is that you can get hypnotized in the greatness out there. And the Pittsburgh Steelers might have done that. Let's talk about some refs, okay? Let's talk about a situation that's been brewing. Okay? Every time they run the play, they cheat. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Every time they run the play, they jump off sides. Nobody ever calls it. It's a point of emphasis. Hey, can't be doing it. Everybody's got to be on the line of scrimmage. We've got to make sure we're not jumping off sides. You're calling on everybody else. You're not calling Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And then yesterday? Yesterday? Or as Dan Rolovsky says, yesterday? This was egregious. Now, the original tweet that hit the internet that everybody saw said the whistle was blown early. Whistle was never blown. They just actually went back.
Starting point is 01:08:57 This is a great play. Whistle wasn't blown until Tibbado had the ball in his hand. So, like, whistle is not blown until, like, right there. Like, after he has the ball, you know? Wow. Yeah. So they said it was a stop of forward progress, which is why they called it. But he's one lunging forward.
Starting point is 01:09:12 So what we think happened is that the refs actually thought that was a goal line. Yes. And it was like, nope, that's a touchdown. Go ahead and just keep it moving. And we've heard a lot of, like, New York expedited review, dropping into people's ears saying, hey, this ain't right, this ain't right, we can fix this. They didn't do that here. So now everybody's saying, Philadelphia Eagles are on to take.
Starting point is 01:09:31 This is, this is exactly what we've been saying about the tush push. And it's going to continue to get real loud, especially as these plays continue to happen. Now, did this ultimately decide the game? No, but it even happening, AJ, I think people are like, this can't be real life, especially with all the conversation around it already. No, I thought this was a fumble for sure. But you knew they weren't going to be able to change it because of how they do the stupid rules and whatever they say that the whistle was blown even though it wasn't now even it like okay
Starting point is 01:09:58 the whistle was not going forward do not like what's way to beat before we blow the whistle like this can happen this is a real life situation like I hope they know going forward that and a point of emphasis should be to not blow the whistle until he truly is stopped even he has the ball like this yeah just when it's in the field of play call it as a football play yeah like I think that's the last thing to be told yeah I genuinely think he was viewing it like it was the end zone like up Touch Bush, we know what this is about. Yep, he did it again. He did it again.
Starting point is 01:10:27 92 percenters or whatever they call it. And obviously this gets very loud, especially from Giants fans who are in the same division. What are we supposed to do with everything going on? They got this going on. Is that not your exact reaction, Bruce Brown? Yeah, it's an absolute farce. They can enforce the false starts that happened basically every other time they run it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And now this, he's reaching forward in the same motion that Tibido takes it. And they say his forward progress has stopped. absolute joke man it's a travesty now that's a Giants fan it's every action Monday but he's not the only one that feels that way joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who has traveled to Kansas City we do not believe he's on
Starting point is 01:11:03 the call but we know he's going to be live for Monday night football ladies and gentlemen the quarterback and NFL guru for ESPN Dan Orlovsky Dan Oro Dan O Dan O
Starting point is 01:11:19 Dan O Dan O Dan O Oh, thanks for joining us, Dan, from the back of a very nice SUV, it appears. We were just chit-chatting about the tush push there, about the call yesterday and the egregiousness of it all. And obviously, Philadelphia gets back on track doing their thing, obviously terrible injury to scataboo in this. And I think we all believe in the Giants, though, right? Don't we all kind of believe in the Giants going forward? On the direction for sure.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I think we all believe in the Giants going forward, but also the Philadelphia Eagles got back to who we think they are with Sequan Barkley going absolutely crazy, and then this taking place. Your kind of takeaway not only on this play, but the Eagles yesterday as a whole. whole Dan Arlofsky. Well, on this play, the NFL's lucky that it doesn't really have an impact on the game because if it did, there would be massive uproar. I've never really had a passionate take or feeling on either side of the whole tush push thing. But after watching this, I'm out on it. I can respect it and appreciate for everything that it's, you know, been accomplished and whatnot. But we can't have this play in football where it's clear and obvious fumble to every human being that is every watch to game, but for some reason and a whistle and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:12:26 It's just a play right now that I think is impossible for officials to defend fairly, I guess, or equally. So this play for me is got to be one that we move away from. Oh, Dan. Okay, Dan. All right, Dan doesn't want a football play to happen. What if they ref it correctly, though? What if the refs start calling it? That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:12:48 It's the way it's officiated. I don't know if you can, AJ. I don't know since it's such a unique play if you can. I was just overreacting because that's what you hear from Johns and Super Duper Football people saying. If everybody can do this and it's an easy play, why didn't everybody do this and it's an easy play? This is a skill that we have. And then now with all the super duper slowed down, it's like, well, the skill is also kind of cheating a little bit. And the ref's not being able to call it.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Not that that's the Eagles fault. The Eagles can do whatever the hell they want. They ran it four straight times, primetime TV. If you don't like it, watch it. Here it is even more. They got to do what they got to do to win a game. They did that. Let's talk about tonight's game that you're on your way to.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Commanders taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, a lot of blowouts yesterday. Do you forecast another one this evening or do you think Marcus Marriota, Cliff Kingsbury, and the commanders are going to be able to keep this one a battle and maybe even win this thing, Dano, maybe even beat the Chiefs on Monday night? No, I expect this to be one-sided.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Jeez. Washington defensively keep Patrick under 350 yards. This is a Washington, defense that has just really struggled. And Kansas City has absolutely hit his stride offensively in the last month or so. The addition of the two receivers has been absolutely tremendous. But the real thing is some of like their schematic changes. There's a lot that they throw at you right now. They protect Patrick and it's, hey, if the shots there, great. If not, go run around and make a play because we've given you time to go create. You see some of their four by one
Starting point is 01:14:15 formations that when they get in those four by one formations, there are so many different options. that they can get to offensively. Rishi, one-on-one, the speed of Xavier Worthy, Hollywood down in the red zone. Their willingness to run the football, it has not been ridiculous to run game, but just the ability to run it and be efficient and have the willingness to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:35 I just don't believe that Washington can match up. Doran's armstring was Washington's really best pass rushers so far this year. He's out. They're struggling in coverage mightily. They're struggling to get pressure. If Kansas City plays up to their game, that this should be a 35-plus point game for their offense. That would not be good for the NFL.
Starting point is 01:14:57 First time since 1970 or second time since 1970 where only one game was decided by one score or less. Yeah, here it is. One game decided by single digits on Sunday. Jets of Bengals, that's since 1970. Shot to ESPN Research and Hembo. And maybe tonight just makes it a full clean sweep on its entirety. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Yeah, Dan, the Packers, obviously, last night. look very good against the Pittsburgh Sierra was Jordan Love when you watch him play are you seeing like he looked pretty damn good last night what do you see when you watch him progress like as a player in this league he seems to me like he is supremely confident I just love that he takes shots down the field and he's not scared
Starting point is 01:15:33 yeah if they're under center play action game is working you can't stop their offense you just got to hope that you can hold them down in the red zone that's when they're at their best their offensive line is not played great this year so that under center is a big deal and then Jordan's just being really great with his decision making this is the guy that has for a couple years now been crushed with his decision making or in many people's
Starting point is 01:15:54 eyes that he's been a poor decision maker. His decision making has been as good as basically any quarterback in football this year. Jordan loves. And then, you know, the way that they use their different personnel, you see Tucker Kraft in one-on-one situations, the way that they create Dob for situations, the checkdown game for them has been really consistent. You know, the Williams use. They've got a lot of different pieces. They don't really need. a number one receiver now let me say this christian watson being back was absolutely enormous christian watson when he's healthy and impacting their offense just because his size and size and strength they don't really have a size speed strength guy at the wide receiver spot outside of christian
Starting point is 01:16:37 so when christian's there it's a different offense um i love the way that jordan's been playing this year i think he's playing the best football of his career uh let's go down to houston texas with a huge win for them feels like they needed this. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Dan, 30 of 39 for 318, I believe is what C.J. Stroud had. Would I be wrong saying this is the best game he looked since probably his rookie season? And what do you think was the difference in this game versus the Houston Texans offense for the rest of the year, which, you know, has had flashes, but not really been great? Yeah, 100%. That's the best game that C.J. has played since 2023.
Starting point is 01:17:16 A couple of things. The two young receivers really stepped up. and Higgins were outstanding. And then CJ played, you know, when you guys hear football talk, you've often heard people like me say he played hot, right? Defense brings a blitz. Sometimes defense brings like a pressure and you know that everybody's one-on-one blocking. And we call that playing warm as a quarterback. He played warm really well.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And that doesn't mean that, and let me say this, that's something that they've, he has, and they have in Houston really struggled with in the last year and a half, is like dealing with pressure, both by a plan and execution. He was sensational yesterday. And then the other side, the flip side of this is you see no bosa and no huff show up. I mean, they could not San Francisco get near CJ. CJ at times had plenty of opportunity to get from the second or third progression.
Starting point is 01:18:09 So the two young receivers, CJ was outstanding when it came to just playing warm and playing on time. He got through progressions. And then if you're San Francisco, it's a precursor. Maybe it's a little bit of like a concern warning sign of, God bless. We couldn't get anywhere near the quarterback. Let's move away from the AFC South and let's go to the AFC North. Conman has a question for you, Dan. Yeah, Dan, out of nowhere, not really out of nowhere,
Starting point is 01:18:34 because everyone thought the Ravens were going to be great and they still might have that in front of them. They're currently minus 105 to win the AFC North, but they're two and five. You know, the Steelers are four and three. the Bengals are three and four. How should we feel about the Ravens, do you think? Lamar coming back. Are they going to really start to go now? Derek Henry, you know, gets in the end zone twice yesterday. So do you think the Ravens should be the favorites in the NFC or AFC North? And what should our expectations then be for the Steelers and Bengals in that division?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Yeah, I still say that Pittsburgh is the favorite. Obviously, last night in the past two weeks, there's conversations around them. But let me say this about Baltimore. It's tough to really gauge offensively. They ran the ball a little bit better. They got the ball to Zayflowers. They were creative in some of their play calls down in the red zone. Bateman won on some one-on-one routes. But yesterday really was about Rochwan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. Those two guys played so much better, specifically Roquan than he had at the really beginning of the season. Kyle as a blitzer was outstanding. Chicago really didn't have any plan for what pressure was going to look like or how to pick it up so i'm encouraged by the ravens but mainly because of the way that
Starting point is 01:19:47 the defense and those two defensive stars played this is a very very poor decision he let me talk about this player right for caleb before we end up with the ravens see how long it takes from him to when he gets the top of his drop so the ball gets out of his hands balls out now see like see he's late so that's when everyone this whole oh no off season was talking about timing and rhythm I bet you from the time he gets to the top of his drop to that ball comes out of his hands, push in a second. That's way too long. Ball should be out now.
Starting point is 01:20:18 So you're probably half a second late and the ball should go to the flat. So it's an outstanding interception, but that's what gives you concern. And that's why I've talked about for the last three or four weeks with Caleb is like the inconsistency has really been prevalent over the last month with his play. There's been moments, but inconsistency. But I do think if you're Baltimore, you have to be encouraged by the way the defense played. Okay, let's talk about Caleb a little bit more. This is his first time really doing this, Ben, thing.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Yeah, so now we're kind of at the mid-season point. And the Bears, they had a nice little winning streak there, got knocked off yesterday. But what is kind of your mid-season report card on Caleb Williams and this Ben Johnson relationship? I'd give Caleb a C right now if I was giving him a grade. It would be about as average as it could be. We're graduating. And there's been moments, you know, where early in the season, there was stretches where he looked very good. And then there's been a drive here, there in the last four or five weeks where he's made like a good clutch throw and you feel encouraged.
Starting point is 01:21:23 But what has been prevalent over the last month or so is, one, holding on to the football. Two, and this is where I'm most concerned with Debutt is it's the extreme of playing way too fast or playing. playing way too slow where we haven't found that sweet spot for Caleb yet where sometimes you're so sped up even yesterday there's three or four clips where you know he's so sped up and playing so fast that you're you're ready to throw the football before the receiver is even remotely close to out of his cut or out of his break or the window is going to be open or you're playing slow like on that interception or you get to the top of your drop and instead of hitching like he stands flat footed look him he just stops there that's there's that's that's that's
Starting point is 01:22:07 not how that offense is operated. That's not how that past game, that play action game is operated. It is all about the timing of your feet. And so I'm not sounding the alarms here, but what I am saying is this last month or so, he's kind of been stuck and they got to get him to consistently play to the right pace with his drop and the timing of their concepts. Because until he does, it's just not going to be what it should be offensive. We hear what you're saying. You've got to get there fast, and then take it slow. Right?
Starting point is 01:22:43 That's where we want to go. Way down in Coco. Yeah. He was about to finish. Yeah, it was about to finish. and we'll take it slow. That's where you want to go. Away from Dan,
Starting point is 01:23:18 is that the song? Yeah. That's where we're going to. I don't think that's the words, no. It's the original lyrics. I heard it, yeah, I heard it in there. You're talking about Caleb, you know, maybe rushing through or maybe taking his time.
Starting point is 01:23:30 There's other quarterbacks here that out of nowhere in the MVP conversation alongside Jonathan Taylor. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Dan, all that. there are a couple guys. Specifically, Drake May, though. He's doing stuff week in and week out that we've seemingly never seen before, or either haven't seen since Tom Brady. Are you surprised at how quickly his development is kind of skyrocketed, how good he's got? And also, how far can Drake May take the Patriots playing like this? He could absolutely take them to a division
Starting point is 01:24:01 title, and I'm not surprised by it. I called a couple of games, his games in college. He's a tremendous player. And I'm not surprised by it also because Josh McDaniels is freaking unreal. I fudging love what's going on in New England. Can't say that. Fugge. Yeah, dude. There's so, they're the reverse of pendency. They throw so much at you. Dude, Connor, I'm sure you watched the game yesterday. There's a drive in the third quarter that starts at like 11 minutes, and they throw six or seven straight plays of different personnel, different poor, same motion but different play it's nuts and josh mcdaniels when i say reverse of tendencies they throw so many different like personnel groupings at you sometimes there's two backs
Starting point is 01:24:48 sometimes there's two tight ends um they throw so many different looks at you when it comes to um what this like josh mcdaniels will always call playing the first quarter and then there's always going to be a different play off of a very similar look in the second quarter and then there's always going to be a very similar play off of that, those same initial two looks in the third quarter. Cajon Boutte is a top five receiver in the NFL right now when it comes to touchdowns, when it comes to yards per catch. That's insane, how impressive that connection has been. Drake's playing unbelievable football. I don't know if there's a guy, you know, like, there's no question he's playing top five football right now, and it's good enough to no
Starting point is 01:25:29 question win them division. Okay. And this is a staff from Hembo here, talking about the completion percentage, you know, normally reserved for just pocket passers and rhythm offenses. Look at the rush yards. Drew Brees had 25 of them whenever he was completing this eye. Jared Goff had 16 rush yards this far. Tom Brady had 25 rush yards. This guy's got 250 rush yards alongside a 75% completion percentage. So it's like what he's doing is exactly what he did in North Carolina. North Carolina, he led the team in rushing and he led it obviously in passing. And then you talk about his feet and Caleb, he's only gotten better, right? He feels like, because everybody talked about him
Starting point is 01:26:04 and maybe not being able to operate in an NFL system because he's too active. This guy's too athletic. He's been too used to being the most athletic guy. McDaniels has just got him to lock in, or has this been something he's been doing since he got there? That's the thing that is the surprising thing, I would say, is, you know, when he was at North Carolina, there wasn't a lot of rhythm and timing offense.
Starting point is 01:26:24 It was a heavy RPO, throw the ball downfield offense, and he was an elite at it. He was elite. But you didn't see a lot of things. that we're going to carry over into the NFL. I think the thing that's been most surprising about Drake May is he plays on time, he plays on rhythm, and he never looks too fast for him. You know, like when the balls, that's an unbelievable read right there. I believe he throws that ball to Trayvion Henderson, a tailback.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Another lovely play ball in design where that ball is thrown over the top. So I think that's the thing that's most surprising about Drake is you've watched this, this pocket passing on time. development, another beautiful play called development, but he never looks sped up. He never looks hurried. He never looks out of control. It's just this constant, I'm in control. I know exactly what I'm looking at. And you know what the second thing that's probably been most impressive is? He never gets fooled with coverage. For a kid who just did not see a ton of different coverage schemes and rotations in college, he never gets fooled with coverage because Cleveland threw a lot
Starting point is 01:27:31 at him coverage-wise yesterday. And it was like a walk in the park for that young man. Miles Garrett had five sacks. They showed that highlight at the end. He was throwing his helmet down in anger as they were showing that he had a five-sack game. That's what he sounded up. That one exactly, which of what everybody said. And then that one
Starting point is 01:27:47 play there we showed, third and 23, very good Cleveland Brown's defense. They are picketing at the sticks, still pick it up with delivery and everything he's got going on. Unbelievable. Good conman. Yeah, he's 23 now. He won't be 24 until August. Jaden Daniels turns 24. during his rookie year, but you mentioned it with Miles Garrett,
Starting point is 01:28:04 like he was getting a ton of pressure and he never got rattled. He didn't get like the happy feet. Oh, I might get hit. Like he stood in the pocket and he kept throwing the ball and it's just one of those things where you would, you know, you're just very excited. Is that the little brother effect, do you think? Some of it, for sure.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And, you know, coming from an athletic family, being able to take, because the one thing about Josh McDaniel seems like he is a hard coach too, like a hard-nose coach, like sticks to the details and all the things that you've seen behind the scenes. with Drake. He seems like one of the most coachable guys. And that's one of the things you worry about, especially when you get to this level with quarterbacks and egos and things like that. So he's everything that Clyde Christian told us he would be. And now coaching, you see how much
Starting point is 01:28:46 it matters on this level. And for all what you just said, for a guy that got sacked five times by one guy to not be sped up and still be in control with being a young guy like that, the sky's a limit. He's third in MVP odds right now behind Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Daniel Jones plus 1100, Drake May plus 450, Josh Allen plus 400 Mahomes plus 150 at ESPNBet. Congratulations these guys have an incredible seasons.
Starting point is 01:29:10 AJ has the last question for you, Dano. Yeah, Dano, are the dolphins fully back now with Tua? Obviously big 3410 victory over the Falcons, I assume you're back on the Dolphins. No, but it was nice to see Tua look like Tua. I mean, it was just the elite timing that we've
Starting point is 01:29:26 grown accustomed to. He did. He looked at a new eye. They had a I don't know. I'd say this, though, in that game, it was the most physical I've seen Miami probably under Mike McDaniel. Just so much more physical in general. Their offense had an attitude to it. Their defense had it add to it. Atlanta could not do anything against that defense, but the physical commitment to run the football in a traditional style, a little bit of an old school style, and then Tua was just surgical with this timing, which is kind of what we've become accustomed to that ball is nuts
Starting point is 01:30:02 accustomed to with tua I'm not all the way back on them because obviously it's a long road and their injuries and lack of talent are real but I will say outstanding performance on the road but way more concerning but in regards to Atlanta than it was
Starting point is 01:30:17 like feeling positive about Miami Atlanta gets blown out by the Panthers huge win blown out by the dolphins probably have a huge win going forward Kirk Cousins obviously didn't look that spectacular in his season debut. Let's go back to Gumpy Miami Dolphin Superfan. We're back. We got the same
Starting point is 01:30:34 record as the Ravens. Yeah, we went with 6-0 linemen yesterday, 3-headed monster, Ollie Gordon, A. Chan, Jalen Wright out of Tennessee, got some burn yesterday. I mean, we just pounded the rock, stopped the run, physical football team yesterday. Dan Orlovsky, you heard Tone Digg say everybody's doing it. That's Artie
Starting point is 01:30:50 Smith, Aaron Rogers, creating the new wave in the NFL of 6 offensive linemen and then getting a little bit more protection for the quarterback? Is that a R.D. Smith, Pittsburgh Steelers thing that you're going to have to give credit to on national television? No, that's really a Joe Brady Buffalo thing from last year. Oh, wow. There's so many teams doing it right now. There's so many. I think there's like five or six things that if you're not doing in the NFL right now offensively, I just think
Starting point is 01:31:15 you're behind the time. Under center? Under center, like you've been saying for Philly? You have to put the quarterback under center more. You're seeing more and more teams do it. Philadelphia does it all of a sudden there's good success. I mean, Philadelphia through week five or week six led the NFL in negatives. I don't know if they have two or three negatives in the last two weeks. They put Jalen under center way more than they have in the first five weeks. They've gone and used to play action way more than they did in the first five weeks. They thrown the ball in the middle of the field. So I think you've got to put the quarterback under center. I think you've got to go with six offensive linemen occasionally. I think you've got to get different four by one formations.
Starting point is 01:31:50 I think you've got to go early down play action. Those are the trends in the NFL right now that I think are massive. No problem. Everybody should do all that. You're the man, ladies gentlemen. What are you doing? You got NFL live out there? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:32:05 How's the show going to be pretty good? How's the weather? It looks like it's a little gloomy, doomy on it. Yeah, it's gray. It's not too cold, which I'll take. It's about 58, 59 degrees, but gray. There's a lot of gray right there. What are you walking into there?
Starting point is 01:32:16 Is that makeup? You're about to get all suited and booted? This is like the new, like, central location on site. It's an RV. Oh, sick. Oh, sick. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Doors then? Hey, don't be taking this. No dumps in there. No, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure this is for, like, Monday night, countdown, but they let us. Oh, nice. All right. It's your show, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan's going to dump in there. Oh, without that. Hey, excuse me. Where's the John? It's in the back on it. There's two of them. Actually, which one are we going to be around? This front one? Let me go in here. He's so tall. Got to break it out. He's going to be in that thing. Boom, bang, pal. How you do it? AJ, have you commented about my muchos graces yet or not?
Starting point is 01:32:58 Yeah, I mean, I know that you like it cold, and I cannot imagine how you feel right now, especially that genuine authentic synthetic leather you got in those arms. You've got to be sweat. Yeah, I'm dripping sweat. I went to the bat. It is a tank top is drenched underneath. It's cool. It's cool jacket.
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Starting point is 01:34:06 I believe Raul probably runs that social media. He's good man. Probably. NFL Mexico. They love ball. Think about these international correspondents. Think about how much they love ball. Okay, they're like drumming up. They're like campaigning for the sport of football in their countries.
Starting point is 01:34:22 You talk about McQuaid. Yeah. Obviously, we've gotten a chance to know him. Raul and the NFL Mexico people like they will take any opportunity to be like, yes, we will spread the love of game. So we're on their side too. But Rao's not just drumming up
Starting point is 01:34:35 bullshit stats. What do you mean bullshit? Hey, Wade was boots on the ground last night? What was the McQuate stat about no early game in the happiness level of the American football fans because UK and Europe didn't provide a morning game yesterday? Yeah, so they actually went around to like
Starting point is 01:34:51 1,500 fans over their lads and they had one of the doctors cards. You know, know, like two, kind of pain, four, a little more pain, six, a little bit more pain, eight, a lot of pain, 10, worst pain ever. And he basically said, like, lads, how are you feeling after that game? And he just, you know, everyone said with it, averaged on the doctor little card scale that they've been using forever, averaged in 9.1, lad. Oh, so much bad.
Starting point is 01:35:17 This weekend, exactly. He was standing on the Parkway West stopping cars actually last night. Was he really? Yeah, he was in town for the game. He was in North Carolina for Chapel Bill this weekend. He was doing it all. McQuid. McQuid did quite the weekend.
Starting point is 01:35:32 For the good of ball. Yeah, exactly. Legitimately for the good of ball. College football had some massive, massive, massive things take place, including a firing of LSU's Brian Kelly, which obviously, I don't think anybody could have seen coming from the moment he was hired at LSU. Now, on that note, good football coach.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Okay, good football coach. I obviously played at West Virginia whenever he was coaching at Cincinnati. Then obviously he goes to Notre Dame, success there goes to LSU. He's good, wins a lot of his games, but I don't think anybody at any point, and we weren't as baptized into the college football world at the time of him being hired at LSU as we are now. Could you imagine our reaction now if Brian Kelly would have got hired at LSU? I mean, we would, that's almost, I mean, his family thing. Oh, yeah. From immediately was on me, and I don't want to mock him because if I speak to some Southern people, I will certainly
Starting point is 01:36:22 slow that down a little bit too to them so I don't want to judge him for it but was it ever going to work you know never felt never felt like a great fit it never did and he's walking out of there with 50 some million potential negotiated buyout happening currently allegedly if you're listening to reports
Starting point is 01:36:38 and now LSU's wide open Florida I thought it was going to work I did maybe it's because like you said the big East day he's been in Cincinnati he was a good coach in Notre Dame but the thing was like oh he'll never be able to get the guys Yeah, you didn't have the players. Couldn't get the player.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And then you go to LSU, which the three previous coaches before him all won national championships, right? So I didn't think, you know, Brian Kelly was just a shlappy. I thought he was a good football coach. It started to work out. Jayden Day and Hizman, you know, you're going to have the talent. There's a bunch of Louisiana guys in the NFL. They're going to be a bunch of five stars in that state.
Starting point is 01:37:13 But now that's probably the best job, best college job available right now. On that note, Tone Diggs, college football author put out a poll. best job LSU, Florida or Penn State LSU now we are from Pittsburgh We have a lot of Big Ten Obviously ties with our program Because of our location here in Indianapolis, Indiana We thought maybe Penn State
Starting point is 01:37:33 We'd get a little bit of a leaner here LSU is kind of what everybody's saying LSU is saying hey this is an incredible job Three out of the last four coaches One national championships there at LSU With the amount of talent Florida obviously the state of Florida Always going to be good Penn State
Starting point is 01:37:46 Has all the resources in the world And a lot of history Were you surprised that LSU won this poll on your Twitter account by the wide margin that it did? By the wide margin, yes. Was I surprised that they won? No, I thought it would be a little more closer,
Starting point is 01:37:59 a little more 30% for everyone. But, you know, just like Dibut said, and you talk about the last three coaches who were there all win a national championship. They all talk about the recruiting base down there, and you don't have to, you know, compete with those other Florida schools when you're in a school, at a school like Florida situation.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Yes, Penn State probably has the most money, but when you put everything together, yeah, LSU is the spot. Yeah, obviously. this is the storyline right now is the amount of buyouts and then there's reports now these are just the head coaches buyouts let alone all the assistant coaches and everything like that what schools and teams and organizations are willing to do to try to win a national championship especially with the amount of money that is being invested in these teams and in these programs it's crazy times the reason why brian kelly was fired is because texas a n m went in there and absolutely crossed them texas a nm might be best team in country there's a few of those teams vandy gets a huge win over Missouri. That is a gigantic for their program. Obviously, all eyes were in Nashville on this Vanderbilt team. And Diego Pavia, Coach Clark Lee and the boys showed up in a big way, get a huge win over Missouri with the eyes and the pressure of the world upon them.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Now, they thought maybe, you know, with Alabama a couple weeks back, they weren't able to beat them. This was going to be another game. They weren't going to be able to prove who they are. Diego Pavia and the boys get a huge win. Congrats to them. And then Ole Miss beats Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma on game day, AJ, because Mateer was back and what we saw from them earlier in the year. And the Oklahoma defense is so damn good. Venable is the reason why he's the head coach at Oklahoma is because of how damn good his defense is. Then you add into weather, it's like, well, you would think Oklahoma would be able to pound them here. Ole Miss wouldn't be able to handle it all.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Instead, yeah, right, Ole Miss, huge win. Winidad is what they're calling the quarterback in the head coach. of that team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, obviously football coaching legend, Lane Kiffin. I picked Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma. That's 100% on me, coach. I apologize for that. I should have known that you guys are exactly who you've said you are, dogs willing to go into anywhere, any environment, and win. What did you learn from your team with this Oklahoma win? And how do you feel about where you guys sit at this moment of college football? well you helped motivate us pat just so you know
Starting point is 01:40:22 there's a lot of talk on the bus about this pick of yours and everybody picking against us SEC nation every single person picked against us I don't know if anybody picked it Laura Rutledge's daughter picked us is the only person that I think we appreciate Laura Relage's daughter having a forecast of it all but you do draw from that I assume you pull from that type of stuff with your team whenever you're motivating and what did you see from your team in the win over Oklahoma but those guys see that stuff so I don't know how much that works
Starting point is 01:40:51 Trinidad mentioned it you know he's like because he thought like you and him were boys you know because you FaceTime on the bus normally for games like you know a big game you know like LSU you did and then all of a sudden you jumped off and you picked Georgia
Starting point is 01:41:07 we lost to Georgia and then strictly business they told me all you did was talk about Oklahoma's quarterback how great he was going to play so thank you thank you for doing that Whoa. Whoa. I love Trinidad. I mean, I heard Winnad for the first time. I love the name. I love everything about him. But I didn't know enough about him is what I think.
Starting point is 01:41:27 And now, Mateer, I learned quickly about him. So that's 100% on me. Please tell Trinidad that I apologize for an unknown enough about his game. That's on me. That's on me. Guess he was hanging out right here. What's that? You can tell him yourself. No, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Winni-Dade. Winni-Dade.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Winni-Dade. Hey, love your hand. I have. I totally love you, dude. Yeah, I'm part of the problem here, Wittadad. I just want to let you know. That's on me not having enough belief in you. I didn't understand the amount of dog that was in you, Trinidad. That's 100% on me.
Starting point is 01:41:59 How do you feel, brother? And also, I love that you want to check me for this. It makes me like you even more than it all, Trinidad. Appreciate you, Pat. Feeling good after the win, man. You know, Oklahoma, that was a tough team. But, you know, we found a way to win, so it was good. Now, Trinidad, I heard, you know, because you don't play in front of a lot of people
Starting point is 01:42:16 and maybe the weather's bad. that you were going to be ass. Now, everybody around you says that's not who you are at all. Mental tough guy from Michigan. What do we maybe not know enough about you and this team that maybe some of the doubters don't know, Trinidad? I mean, that we find ways to win, you know, all season. We've had a pretty good season so far.
Starting point is 01:42:37 You know, against Georgia, then it wasn't the outcome that we wanted, but, you know, versus Oklahoma, we bounced back, and coach was excited to see how we would bounce back and, you know, just happy that we got the one, really. Congrats. What a name. Hell yeah. What a name.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Great to see you, brother. Congrats on a huge win, and the entire world needs to know your story. This dude comes from Ferris State. Okay, becomes a dog, goes to Ole Miss, gets thrust into action, doesn't miss a beat. And that's why they don't call him Truzadette. You know, they call him Trinidad.
Starting point is 01:43:05 The hell yeah. Because all this guy does is win at that, Donna. Congrats, Trinidad. Yeah. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you, man. Okay, now, since he's a little bit too close, so I don't want to add any.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Yeah, yeah. He's out now. Back to film study. Got to grind. Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Don't worry. I'm like you, man. I keep him down, too. Yeah. That's a whole, whoa. We should have won by three scores in that game if he would have done everything he should. Okay. Well, wait till the rat poison. I'm about to pour on your entire team for the rest of this entire thing. Trinidad just walking into that interview for us. So cool. Very, very thankful for that. But on that note, we just talked about the big story coming out of this weekend.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Not you guys getting a huge win over Oklahoma. Not Vandy, obviously. solidifying being a powerhouse at this point with all eyes on them getting a huge win over Missouri. The big story is obviously another coach fired at a massive place. Your name gets brought up for all of these things. How do you handle that with team? How do you talk about it? Because obviously you said they see everything. What is your kind of, you know, communication with the team as all this kind of is happening around you, coach? Yeah, I usually don't talk about it with the team because we've dealt with this for a number of years because our players have have performed really well and won a lot of games here.
Starting point is 01:44:19 And so this attention has come with that. I just thought last week it was important late in the week to address it on Friday just because we have so many new players. So they hadn't been here the year or the year before that where these job rumors and stuff would come up. And so I just told them, hey, this is a product of how you guys play is why they see the way that you play. So then people are like, fans like, we want that system.
Starting point is 01:44:45 And they say coach. but really it's the system of the players and the assistant coaches and what a good job they do. So I just told them that's a compliment to them. And I think it's easier for them nowadays because remember, basically the same thing happens to them. They have a good game. What happens? You know, our freshman receiver has a good game. Saturday night, he's got three calls from places telling him, hey, come here, we'll give you more money, you know, pre-portaling, you know, before to portal.
Starting point is 01:45:10 That's what happens. And so they deal with this all the time. places saying, oh, come here, you'll get more money because they're performing well. So I don't think it's that big a deal to them. So you feel like the modern athlete, a little bit more entrepreneurial, kind of understand the hype and also the amount of kind of extra shit that could take place because they've been born and raised in it. Is that kind of how you feel about it?
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah. And like I said, it happens to them where before that would never happen in college. So the player, you know, wouldn't have any examples of that in his own life where it happens to them. Got it. And a lot of our guys were portable to come here. And so they're used to that now. It's just kind of the world that they live in. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, coach, I would imagine, like, behind the scenes, you're a product of your own success. Obviously, it's a very, it's a big compliment to you and your team that everybody wants to bring you in in your system. But I would imagine, there are a lot of, like, parents that see these reports and call in and wonder what's going on with their kid on the roster, also recruits. Like, do you have to work on behind the scene stuff all the time when things like this come up? probably not as much as you think just because like I said it's happened before so guys on our roster parents they're familiar with it and so not as much as you think and in recruiting you know we just
Starting point is 01:46:28 talk about the product that we put the positions that we put them into play and the success that we've had here so we don't deal with it near as much as you would think yeah I think this era and this generation you know just kind of understands it a lot more than maybe back in the day because we've been exposed to more of that. Now, on that note, you are different and operate differently than everybody else, I think, which is why so many people and so many schools are interested. Go ahead, Debuts. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:46:53 We know from the outside looking in, we can't hear all the shit talk going on between the lines or maybe even on the sideline. There was some interaction with you and an Oklahoma player after the game. What kind of happened before the cameras called you before you got to that interview? Here it is, actually. Hold on one second, coach. Oh, oh, are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma? homeless players?
Starting point is 01:47:13 This guy yelled at me during the game like five times how great they were and we can't score on them. Yeah, I love that. Obviously, no other coach is doing that lane. So obviously incredible. What was that? How was that? How did we get to that point?
Starting point is 01:47:29 Well, that happens a lot. I think with me and players and interaction and during the game, especially defensive players, you know, a lot of times they'll say things to me in warmups. I don't know. Maybe they view me as different. his other coaches. They kind of talk to me like they do a player. So I embrace it probably because I give it to them sometimes too. And so he'd said a lot during the game, you know, when he's on a sideline, you look at me like, you ain't going to score all day, you know, so I really wasn't
Starting point is 01:47:58 trying to do it on camera. And interesting enough, I've had a number of players. Transfer over to years that said, hey, one of the reasons it was we loved the way that you interacted with us on the other other side during the game and we wanted to play for a coach like that so I think our players actually love it that's hilarious yeah listen I talk shit to you you've immediately fired back
Starting point is 01:48:21 I told everybody this guy's awesome I don't know how yeah that is Bruce Ariens that is literally Bruce Ariens Bruce Ariens same exact thing like during practices offense coordinator defense talking shit to each other players love it I like that you still have that in you know throughout this entire process of evolving
Starting point is 01:48:37 of who you are and becoming this person at this stage of your life that maybe is different than the old past? Like that you still got your edge. Like that you still got your edge. Now on that note, your team seemingly has great edge. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, I understand, you know, anything can happen on any given Saturday, but you guys
Starting point is 01:48:54 are pretty much through the real teeth of your conference schedule right now. And I don't think you really need any extra motivation to get up when you're playing teams like Alabama or Georgia or LSU, you know, take your pick. But how do you avoid kind of the letdown when down the stretch here?
Starting point is 01:49:09 you have, you know, some of these teams from the bottom half of the SEC who, if you're not coming in prepared, obviously, anybody can get got on any Saturday. Yeah, they can. There's examples all over the place of it. And in college, but the SEC now is really the NFL. You look at these games. So many games are one score, you know, or now you got so many teams going to overtime to beat teams that they were, you know, supposedly much better than. So that's what. we're in. That's the world we're in. And so we got to get up every single week and tell guys about that. And this is a really good example. You know, this is an extremely talented South Carolina team. This is a off the charts talented quarterback that can beat you. And so we're going to have be ready to play. I mean, these guys are ahead of Alabama just, you know, a few days ago. And Alabama's a great team. So this is, this is what we're in. We're in the NFL and the SEC. and you better be ready every week.
Starting point is 01:50:12 I love to hear that mentality, and that's good coach. And once again, why your name is up for every single job that's available and will be forever. And you having to lock in and continue to do your job in the SEC while still trying to make playoffs and win championships. Crazy thing for you, coach, is to deal with, especially with the numbers. Yeah. The numbers we're all hearing about Lano. Listen, Brian Kelly could be a professional golfer in next six years, getting paid $54 million. That would be more than Scotty fucking Sheffler.
Starting point is 01:50:37 I don't know. Okay, so you guys have earned it, obviously. Good for the state, good for the program. Tone has a last question for you here, Coach. Yeah, Coach, I do. I was wondering if you have a chance on Sundays to witness what Jackson Dart is doing, and if any of it surprises you, because his moxie and everything feels like it's perfect for New York, and he's been off to a great start.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Well, right before I go to that, what Pat said there, just so you know, because you haven't known me very long. I have never made a decision based off of money. nor will I. Love that. For a lot of people, they're just like, well, money and it does this and does that. I've seen too many examples in life where money does not buy happiness. So I'm never going to make a decision off money, nor do I care about it.
Starting point is 01:51:23 It's good to have them. Jimmy Sexton gets really mad when I say that. He's got enough. We've got to get this. We got to get this. And I'm like, Jimmy, I don't care. And he goes, I do. He said, that's why I'm here.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Of course. That is why I'm here. But to the Jackson, he's awesome. You know, he's my only other FaceTime guy. He facetimes me, too, you know. So most people just call Pat and Jackson, their big FaceTime guy. I want to see. Good to know.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Jackson, after his big win two weeks ago, you know, the next morning, he facetimed me, and I was in the quarterback meeting, and he was in bed. And I said, this was really weird. I do not need facetimes from you, you know, tell you get up and start moving around. so he's just such a cool kid and he's so competitive and everybody just feeds off it so I'm just so happy to see
Starting point is 01:52:14 just like he would be as a dad like my own son just had two come back in the last two games Jackson to play I feel like I'm watching a son I'm just so happy for him congrats to Knox we've been following along on the internet
Starting point is 01:52:26 with that incredible high school run they're on throwbacks and toss-ups and congrats to you we appreciate the hell out of you coach all right guys have a great week And make sure you do not pick us this week, Pat, please. No, no, don't do that because people continue to hit me. You're in a lane kick for the laying here.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Before we get out of here, AJ, I think this be a good time to let the world know on how great of a human Nick Mangled is, was, and everything like that. Honestly, I didn't want to put you on a spot, but I think hearing from friends and beloved ones is a good thing for his legacy. AJ, you've obviously known a long time. Just a couple of words that people need to know about him. yeah man i don't know uh yeah nick was the man like i was nervous like to even think about
Starting point is 01:53:12 coming on here and talking about him but yeah like i grew up with the dude a college roommate for four straight years um unbelievable player but yeah just there's there's no one else like him on the planet super unique dude looking back seeing pictures of us playing together in sixth grade every college memory i have is with nick um yeah this was high school actually by the way you see, like, Nick is smiling on every single picture you ever see of him pretty much. Like, the dude is, look at him right here, are you kidding me? I remember during this game we're playing, Nick was so big, country strong, I'm blitzing the Agap River, and I'm thinking I'm working, and he makes me feel like a little toddler
Starting point is 01:53:43 holding on, he's like, all right, buddy, easy big guy, each big guy in the middle of a play. Like, he's just, what a special human for kids, his wife called yesterday morning. I knew something was up. It was very, very unfortunate. I just, yeah, I can't believe it. Like, just doesn't feel real right now, but Nick, Nick is an absolute. And, you know, prayers for everyone in his family. Yeah, you as well, brother.
Starting point is 01:54:04 And we appreciate you saying good words about him. I'm like Rex Ryan talking about him yesterday. It was obviously very difficult for Rex to do that. But I think it was a good message for people to hear about Nick Mangled. You know, it's the people that love him most singing his praises obviously mean a lot. But I think you guys that have been around him and obviously his family knows this. I don't know if there's another guy that's as beloved as Nick Mangled has been throughout the football community and society. Just so jolly seemingly.
Starting point is 01:54:29 This guy's so damn jolly, tough, gritty, and everything we've learned about him through you, through his family, through wrecks, through teammates, through conversations is the world lost a special, special, special man. And rest and peace. And we are sorry that obviously everybody around him is going through this. And such a perspective putter about literally we have no idea what could happen tomorrow. Now, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're back on the other side, wrapping up this overreaction Monday. AJ, we appreciate the hell out of you for doing that, brother.
Starting point is 01:55:00 I know that was not easy. I know that was not easy. No, Nick deserves like, yeah. He deserves everything, man. Fuck yeah. All right, we'll be back on the other side to wrap up this overreaction Monday. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. And might change your life.
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Starting point is 01:56:54 Hello, beautiful people. And welcome back to our humble the bone, the Thunderdome. On this massive overreaction Monday, October 27, 2025, our three of the program begins. Now, football. He's the greatest. That's AJ Hawk. The toxic table's here at Boston Connor and Natty Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:57:12 One half of the hammer, died. Cowboys AP tone is here. And nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Ballard is here. Let's look at tonight's game. AJ, let's see what the records are coming into tonight's game. Oh, AJ, yet again. Wow. Every week, man.
Starting point is 01:57:27 this guy's just one better or two better it should be five and six i worked you into a shoot with the panthers because i worked myself into a shoot with the panthers that's a little inaccurate you're saying six and six but on that note i my initial hunch was the carolina panthers so you didn't you didn't talk me into it completely you did potentially steer me back to it now i did have a a full moment of the buffalo bills coming out of a bite i don't know if you saw it did you see of me making the pick? Yeah, I actually go, oh, wait, I just saw the bills pound the bantos coming out of the buy.
Starting point is 01:58:07 I mean, I literally, that is what my brain tried to tell me. But every once in a while, especially with how I've been doing, you're going to fade yourself even. So, Connor, you didn't do anything that I wasn't already doing to myself. And on that note, we can still get back in tie. Yeah, you can. Washington at Kansas City. Ten and a half.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Kansas City favored by ten and a half. a Monday night. It has been an entire weekend of NFL football blowouts. Will that continue tonight? Let's start with DeButch. DeBuch, how do you see the game going? And Diggs, are there any other odds? There is a
Starting point is 01:58:41 10 out there. If you're interested in the Chiefs, you get them minus 10. Or if you want the commanders, you could definitely get them at that plus 10 and a half. 70% of the money is on the Chiefs. How has public money continued to do? This weekend. Well, let me say this. So far,
Starting point is 01:58:57 favorites are 10 and 2 so far this weekend. If the Chiefs cover, that would be the best win percentage for favorites in the last 40 years. Obviously all those blowouts, that's going to happen. So far this weekend on teams that are getting 60% or more of the bets. They are 4 and 6
Starting point is 01:59:12 this weekend, 25 and 47 on the year. Okay, 70 percent's on the Chiefs. Those odds seem to be not great, but the favorites, 10 and 2. So, you know, kind of stats going against each other, Dee Budge. What do you think? Kind of in a pickle right here, but everything in me, my mind, my heart, football, everything telling me
Starting point is 01:59:32 Chiefs by three scores in this game. But I'm probably going to do like you did going into Sunday. I'm going to fade myself. So I'm going to actually take the Washington commanders led by Mario. Don't do that. I'm already doing this. Terry, Terry, he's showing up on prime time. It's going to be a close game.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Give me the commies plus 10 and a half. You can't be doing it. I'm already doing that. We can't have everybody. That can't just become our. That's not good. I know. There's a lot of football left.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Trust me, I don't feel good about it. Come on. It's a bed favor for the MVP. Connor, what were you going to say? Just the Washington commanders have had a shell of their offense the last three weeks because Terry McLaren and Debo haven't played together since, I don't know, week three. So if there was any hope in the 10 points, it would be the fact that they are. Orlovsky also said, this commander's defense, yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:00:20 He did say that. That's what Dan Erlovsky said. He said, yeah, right, buddy. They're not going to be able to stop. any of it. So fast. Now, granted, on the offensive side with Marks, Marriota, who we are fans of. Yeah. I am a fan of Marks Marriota. I was
Starting point is 02:00:34 trying to get him to come to the Colts, I think, at one point to be our quarterback, happy we got Danny Dines. Sure. Oh, man. Do we have the perfect guy? But Marks Mariotta also great backup to have if you need them on a Monday night football game against a team that's in the middle of a dynasty. AJ, Darius
Starting point is 02:00:50 Baller is fading himself. Commanders plus 10 and a half, even though he thinks the Chiefs are going to win by lot. What are you doing with this one? Yeah, I would say maybe a week or two ago I would tend to lean towards Washington commanders on this one. I didn't like so many points,
Starting point is 02:01:06 but I am taking the Chiefs. Minus 10, it sounds like I can get from tone, because it's going to be a raucous environment in there tonight, Pat. You should have it first, Pat. No, I didn't say. I didn't go to the opposite age. You know I didn't go the opposite. I thought you wanted the
Starting point is 02:01:22 commanders. I thought you wanted commanders. No, you didn't. You didn't think that. I don't one time, did you think that? She's going to be there tonight. Yeah. I would hope so. I think Redwood's going to be run around. It's national tight ends weekend. Yeah, it's a good point.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Eertz is a good player. Yeah, Ertz is a good player. Yeah, Ertz going to score for sure. He's a good player. I like that little parlay actually. Ertz and Travis Kelsey get into pain. Do I add those just to get out of here? Yeah, you're right. I need a couple. I'll say Mark Smarietta, over 35 rush shorts. Oh, let's see what else.
Starting point is 02:01:58 You take the over? The tight end is to score around plus $600. Okay, so I'm going to take that one as well. That's six, though. If you win that, it's six wins because it's plus 600, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Rishie, Rishie Rice, I think he's probably going to get in the pain as well. I mean, if we're going to start doing this, I've got Mark Samarito's over in rush yards.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Let's see. What else am I seeing out here? All right, commanders plus ten and a half, I guess. That's what I'm seeing. There you go. Because I got to. It's a lot points. is it though have you seen what happened this weekend let me read these scores let me read these scores
Starting point is 02:02:32 38 to 14 that was the cold server of the tightness 35 to 25 that was your packers over Aaron rogers Pittsburgh Steelers 32 to 13 Patriots over the browns 44 24 24 broncos or cowboys 30 to 16 Ravens over the bears 40 to nine bills did what they did to the Carolina Panthers off a buy 6.15, that's 11, Texans 49ers, 23 to 3. Okay, Saints can't even bear the score
Starting point is 02:03:02 a point. Eagles 38, Giants 20, that's tough. 34, 10, and then 39, 38. 10 points, not really that much if you look at No. But as as great as Mahomes is in this dynasty, one of the things over the years has been covering big spreads with the Chiefs that kind of let teams
Starting point is 02:03:20 hang around. Yeah, but it's a brand-new Chiefs. Remember, we talked about that. They isn't still the Chiefs because they're better? Are there stats on Mahomes v. Dan Quinn defenses? Because I felt like we didn't look at for the Old Brick versus the Josh Allen primetime game. Maybe there's
Starting point is 02:03:36 something there that might help us out. Yeah, that's not a bad actually. I would just like to hear Dan Quinn does good. Is that what you think? Yeah, basically. Yeah, just get some positive things. Yeah, something. I can tell you this. Double-digit dogs on Monday night football are 27 9-1 against spreads.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Wow. Uh-oh. That's it. That's a long time. I don't know if I can make anything in his jacket. Yeah, it's going to be tough. A little bit too. Maybe I do a soccer. There you go. You ever do the flip throw? Oh, oh, yeah. I could do the flip throw through. Really? Can you launch it that much farther when you do that?
Starting point is 02:04:11 So for me, no, I could, I could throw it really far just by itself. So I, the flip throw, though, did help people that maybe didn't have the best throw to get a little bit more momentum. And the people that had enough courage to do that, knowing that their hands could slip and they could fall in their face right there. I respected that So yeah The flip throw is certainly something But I Some people can really huck that thing Yeah
Starting point is 02:04:33 Some people We had a kid Michael McDade Do you remember him? Yeah he could talk Michael McDade could do A just regular soccer throw Like it's seemingly 50-60 yards Like he would just be able to throw it
Starting point is 02:04:44 Kevin Love Long snapper should be really good at that He was like you though You guys were not built like soccer players Yes he was a He was a dog He three doors down He could throw it like
Starting point is 02:04:55 upper 90 from the sideline. Like, actually, like he would be able to put it in a room. That's a weapon. He played in Norway. He played professional stuff. He did. He played a pit and then North, yeah. Yeah, one of played Norway. Not a lot of flip throws anymore. I don't see that.
Starting point is 02:05:11 Probably broken next. Do you ever see those? You know what those were? Flip throws? Yeah, I'm sitting on ball. Yeah, do one. Okay, yeah. Front hand spring, on ball. So you would go, boom. handspring flip and then as you're whipping up obviously it's like a catapult yeah yeah it's a
Starting point is 02:05:30 full-on geez yeah it's a lot of action yeah but it is you're very rarely scored on it was like uh it was a hope and a prayer but boy there was a big to do oh yeah it looks cool when somebody was doing a front was doing that shit in games hell yeah oh yeah wow it's pretty sick a little time in soccer history i'm just picturing like deboned on that one i don't think that's the right person to be thinking i think he's built to do that's my part How did you bowl? Hey, I heard you were playing some games. I heard you were rocking some rims.
Starting point is 02:06:00 I played a few. I almost told my Achilles and then I felt like that the next day. But yeah, it was fun. I won a few, lost a few. It was good. Gave some, took more. Yeah, I understand. I get what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:06:10 You could feel your Achilles about the pop? Yeah, you know, as I think I played maybe four or five games in a row. I was sweating bullets, like full-blown sweat, driving home. You know, your sweat freezes to you the whole time. It is a good little workout. I think, I think you should get a good. two points for a dunk tip, one point for a lay-in tip. Yeah, because it
Starting point is 02:06:29 helps him and all he does is dunk-tip. I mean, he's just trying to rig the game for himself. A thousand times. Yeah, I heard you're really rocking around. You should dunk it. Yeah, that's the name of the game, right? That's why you lower the hoop. Now, U-ball is the name of the game, and the hoop is lowered because it's a state fair game. So we can dunk.
Starting point is 02:06:45 So we can dunk tip. Agreed. Yeah, I mean, that's certainly a positive, but it's also gimmicky. I mean, it's a little ball. It's a different hoop. It's a gimmick. It's not just so we can dunk it. Now, granted. Well, it's not fun to tip the ball. Like, you can leave it at 10 foot,
Starting point is 02:06:58 and I can get laying tips all day long. Like, that's not fun. Yeah, it is. Slaping the board when you tip the ball is fun. On that, I mean, smackbacks. Spackbacks were big, like, in seventh grade, like, in my first smackback. Some of us don't live off the rim.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Smackback sounds cool still. But on that note, it is levered so dunking capabilities can happen. That wall, though, was built by us, basically. That wall that that hoop is on. Is it load bearing? It's a good wall. It's got to be. I don't think so, buddy.
Starting point is 02:07:27 That thing is just... You got some of rebar and concrete behind that brick. Maybe. I don't think so. Right on the other side of that wall, actually, at the gym, and then there's a golf simulator on the other side. So you and DeBone really testing the limits of the contractors that were certainly in here, who did a great job.
Starting point is 02:07:44 We're going to say that they did a great job. But every time DeBone was wrecking that thing, I just thought of the entire thing coming down and really being problematic. Now, it shouldn't think that way. It's probably much more sturdy than I am. imagine, but I remember when this place didn't have that wall. And then I watched that thing kind of get built up. And just the thought of you guys just trying to shack that thing is a little scary. Yeah, just a little scary. But I appreciate your guys' intensity. I will
Starting point is 02:08:08 say that. I appreciate your intensity, AJ. DeBone had like 10 reverse dunk tips like behind his, behind his head. Like, he's an athletic. Yeah. Inathletic, yes. How's he doing jumping on his jumping? Timing? Timing on his jumping good? I mean, you guys are just refting him. I don't like how you guys reference. It's unfairly. I mean, he was, he had one at, I mean, his elbow was at the top of the fucking box. When was this? Two, two. Your foot. His elbow's up there, but his foot is on the ground. He's not to Wemby. He can't. That's impossible. Hey, it's the guy. I heard Wemby's a real deal, huh? Everybody's talking about Wemby being a real deal. Cheek coat. So, and then also
Starting point is 02:08:43 Austin Reeves is the guy? Yeah. He heard he won for 50 last thing? That's awesome. Cooper Flagg, right? He's doing it. He had his moment. He had a nice dunk. I think that will catapole. him to kind of... Zion Williamson? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Doing his thing. He's rocking rooms.
Starting point is 02:09:01 All they're doing it. Wembe blocked him 10 times, but they still won. I think Wembe's going to do that. Yeah. Yeah, that's Wembley football. So he went with the monks and came back more aggressive? Yeah. Went monks to KG.
Starting point is 02:09:11 Yeah, he covered all the bases. Monks, KG, Hakeem. I mean... So that video of KG, Don, talking up to him? I didn't hear that. What's going on? I don't think that footage is actually. been released yet. So you guys saying he won to KG, that was like a, hey, Wemby wasn't
Starting point is 02:09:29 trained with KG? That's what that photo was? Yes. Oh, you went from the monks to KG? Yes. What a genius, this guy. Oh, yeah. Wemby's always thinking 70 chess, isn't he, AJ? Yeah, and he's nine feet tall and he can block everybody's shot and he doesn't even have to jump to dunk from like the three-point line. And he's got wiggle all of a sudden. Oh, yeah. That's the, that's the handle was like, it's wild. What's the deal? Stepbacks, this guy. That's the crazy part me like blocking shots okay and even even when he does he jump to block it like you you anticipate him going up there but him like this shit right here just bringing the ball up being able to handle pull up three like come on man yeah yeah like that's that's that's that's an NBA 2k created player type
Starting point is 02:10:09 shit like usually guys that big can't fucking walk and chew gum in the same time he's step up dribbling reverse dunk and no look past and like i mean come on swat team dude full swat team. I just watched him swat those two shots back to back, just waiting. He's literally just sitting there toying with people. Yep, and that one's mine. Let me hide under here. Yep, that's mine. Thank you for coming. And also, that's mine. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 02:10:31 welcome to the, welcome to the SWAT team. Good for Wemby, good for basketball. Basketball needs a lot of good stuff to happen to. Yeah. Yes, it does. Tyrese Halliburton dunked. Here we go. Do you guys see it? Okay. He dunked. Tyree Saliburton dunked. He's on his recovery of the Achilles. Obviously, week 17. I, you've themselves.
Starting point is 02:10:49 Still got a little soft. Oh, yeah. He's going to drop that. Like they did that. Now, obviously, we remember Jason Tatum, showcasing his dunk and obviously a part of the process and his recovery. Jason Tatum, a couple months ahead of Tyree Saliburton, so he's literally chasing him. I think they used the same surgeon and everything, so kind of has a trail and a blueprint ahead of them.
Starting point is 02:11:06 But obviously, that's good news. All right, NBA, good luck. Good luck, NBA. Good luck. Good luck. We need some great ball on the court, don't that? They're getting it early. They need some good.
Starting point is 02:11:19 highlights out there. They mean, everybody's trying real hard. Go ahead. All the rookies are playing really, really well. Like, genuinely, they've had stars. It was essentially just on the court, probably the best start to basketball in a long time. Just like baseball, turning it on watching,
Starting point is 02:11:35 captivated by what's going on, and then sticking around. And then immediately after watching, I'm like, man, I wonder if people are still going to watch this because of everything that's going on. It's like, I think the product is good, but they certainly going to have to, you know, but now what happened in Turkey. You hear about what happened? happened in Turkey. I'm not getting into it. So this is, it's soccer. A bunch of soccer people
Starting point is 02:11:53 are corrupt? Yeah. Well, well, AJ, the way you said that, I know what you were trying to do right there. I know what you're trying. So you guys are telling me a bunch of soccer people are corrupt. That's what you just said right there. As if it's... Well, all I know of soccer is what I've watched and read about FIFA and all that whole organization. And what have you learned about that? Just you get a World Cup potentially if you... There seems to be some, I don't know, some backdoor deals and what he create quid pro quo is that what they call it even above that maybe and some you know some questionable situations building stadiums and such in different parts of the world now on that note boy soccer good sport yeah good sport we're going to win the world cup but i'll tell you
Starting point is 02:12:35 what if the refs are on a take in that sport you can just freak kick penalty off sides anything just like basketball basketball you can call anything you know you can get a yellow card for a guy really if you one too early. You can, in soccer, I'm not saying all soccer's doing this, can't say that, can't think that way, can't do that. But in these sports where like anything's a penalty basically, you know. I mean, that's all. And only one guy knows
Starting point is 02:12:58 how much time is left in the game, too. What's that? When you talk about referees, I mean, that's all sports. Yeah, because I guess holding every play in football. Legendary coach, Jose Marino, was pounding the drum that the Turkish league was rigged when he coached now he's out of there, but
Starting point is 02:13:14 he was right. Jose Marino? legend. The special one. I heard Messi gave a sit-down interview on whether or not he's playing in a World Cup. Yeah, it's going to be on NBC tonight, I believe. Was it like the decision? Yeah. Do you sit down with Chris Sims?
Starting point is 02:13:31 Hopefully. No, I don't think it was Chris Sims. I don't think it was Florio either. I think it was Good Morning America or something. He'll be out there. There's no way he's not playing. He might have been Nate Burleson. Billy Bush?
Starting point is 02:13:44 Terry Brasho? Terry's on fire. Billy Bush. Maybe he's announced and he's playing for America as Lou Messi. Oh, yeah! That's what we need. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:55 What was that guy selling Terry? Corn oil? Pigs. Come on. Oh, pig. I thought it was Coach Lee. CBS Sports Galazzo is reporting that Turkish football has been rocked by a massive
Starting point is 02:14:05 betting scandal. A probe revealed that 371 of 571 active referees had betting accounts. And 152 of them were actively gambling. Good emoji usage there by CBS Sports Galazzo. That is something I'm making. you blush. Wow. They have 570 referees. Yeah, and 370
Starting point is 02:14:21 over want to think about getting a little action. And then 152 of them said, don't think about it. Let's do it, actually. That sounds like a problem. They're going to have to figure out over there in Turkey. And I'll tell you what, I'm done betting on turkey soccer. Me too. Fuck that. I am. I don't like what they're doing. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 02:14:35 AJ, we make a promise right now. We don't bet on Turkey soccer anymore. Okay, AJ? It's going to be tough. I won't bet on it anymore. I'm still going to watch it every one of them, but I won't bet it. Unless it's Champions League, if like Fenner is playing in the Champions League. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:14:50 There's no Turkish refs. You saw the numbers. There's no Turkish refs in the Champions League. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they don't follow the team. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, right. I'm not betting on it.
Starting point is 02:15:01 I'm done with it. I'm not even going to watch it, age. You're still going to watch the Turkish guys? Oh, yeah. I'll still consume all of soccer. I'll get out of it. I'll get ridiculous now, Pat. CMLS cuff right now, boy.
Starting point is 02:15:12 Is G1 still happening? Yeah. Boy, is it? Where did you guys play at? See that jacket you got on Mexico City Lando has taken the lead By one point
Starting point is 02:15:23 He has taken the lead From his partner Hey he's Blano He really is down there Yeah I come down a stretch Well good luck to G1 And the MLSCup is a real deal
Starting point is 02:15:36 Brother I saw last night Lou Messi was trying bending in from a corner Almost made it Classic glue Yeah it's classic I played last night
Starting point is 02:15:43 Sincy Nashville tonight It's a big one Holy shit They need to play easy games on Tuesday. This is this all week. I would definitely be down on Tuesday. Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:15:52 Classic best of three series. No, no 1 o'clock. We don't want to go. Matinee? Are you saying 1 a.m. or 1 p.m.? No, 1 p.m. I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:16:00 How will we do this show? True. No one wants the show. I think it would watch the show. That's kind of what I was getting at. Maybe just throw it on it like 1 p.m. You got Sounders, Minnesota. Now that's a different story.
Starting point is 02:16:11 I did not know the Sounders. Is it in Seattle? Okay. Is it in Seattle? It's in Minnesota. So that's, so that's, So that's going to be a prime time one. Needs to be.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Because I will watch that. All right. So we'll keep up with everything going on. Who to Riverhound's got? We win this year or no? We were in it last year. They're in the U.S. Open Cup, not the MLS. They're playing golf now?
Starting point is 02:16:32 What that means? What? That's not real. The U.S. Open Cup? They are golfers. Oh. Excuse me. They're in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:16:42 They're at home in the playoffs. Who they got? Um. I don't know. Now, just know this. The Plum Mustang's boys and girls soccer team in the playoffs, they're problematic. Hell yeah. They are problematic.
Starting point is 02:16:55 And then the Plumustangs football team, do you see? Did you see what happened? What an awesome play? Yes, I did. Austin Colencosky taking that thing to the crib. You know, I don't like how we just didn't block anybody for the field goal. We might need to get that figured out as we go in the playoffs. But way to react, boys.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Way to get it close in the fourth and take it home. Way to out-fight out-scrap. Out-grit, the Penn Hill. football team what's their name is it still the same that was a question for me to you brother what was it before
Starting point is 02:17:26 would it rhyme with uh shmindians okay I figured I thought that might be in case you can let that at one you can let it fly the Penn Hills Indians are a notable good football team yeah they are good they are a good football team
Starting point is 02:17:40 very very good this is a Mustang's team though young scrappy youngs and it was on display there a tough one against USC Upper St. Clair. But we need to think about putting this guy every position. I think there are the Trojans. He's untackable.
Starting point is 02:17:56 He's Austin Colkoski. I love everything he's about. Did you see that other game that happened in Indiana, AJ? Yeah, what, Bodie Howe? Bodee Howe, was that the quarterback, I believe? That was pretty amazing. Remember the name. Unbelievable that you pulled his name from that.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Legit. Bodie Howell of Eastbrook is what we like to define literally as a problem on a football field. He gets the ball on his own 20. Runs all the way back to his own 11. Gets the edge on 61 is giving max effort with terrible angle there.
Starting point is 02:18:27 He'll figure it out later in life, we assume. Alexandria needs the win to get to the playoffs. Eastbrook, undefeated season. Bodie Howe says we're not losing tonight. Glitching the camera. No glitch in the game. Bodie Howe. I mean, it's camera quality.
Starting point is 02:18:45 There's a flag on the play. My high school tape. You have it? They now have a block in the back on Bodie Howe's team. One untimed down because it resulted in a touchdown. Bodie Howell throws it to the sky here in Indiana and it comes down. Touchdown. Eastbrook.
Starting point is 02:19:08 Two tuds in a row that are improbable. An annexation of Puerto Rico. a Hail Mary, and then a two-point conversion cross his body. It's a time ball game with no time left in the game. Let's go to overtime. Can Alexandria answer? Of course, they scored a touchdown. Eastbrook's got to answer, Bodie Howe.
Starting point is 02:19:28 No option toss to the crib. Are they going to go for two, try to steal this thing, not kick the extra point, go to double overtime? They are. That's Body Hall football. Give me it. Pitch guy, wide open, never getting a ball. No. Bodee Howe's taking that one home.
Starting point is 02:19:42 welcome the Bodie Hals Show Eastbrook maintains its undefeated season and Alexandria I do believe missed playoffs Oh no I'm not a hundred stature but I think That's tough
Starting point is 02:19:54 That's good high school football there Oh yeah Oh yeah Good old wing tee That is good yeah And also no real angles Or leverage just It was like a film
Starting point is 02:20:03 The film session the next day The glitch on the film even On it I mean just everything about it was so high school right there for both those plays Just like the most high school football all time. Love that high school football is taking place. Huge weekend in Pittsburgh for
Starting point is 02:20:17 football, obviously hosting a Sunday night football game with the Packers coming to town. And them losing, okay? Fireworks. Ed fireworks. You see the fireworks show? Yinsers are not taking it well. And I'm not 100% sure if they're the only team that is responding the way that they are. And that's why we put out a tweet on Monday mornings. We say, hey, listen, we want to hear how you feel. We want to get the temperature. of every fan base. And obviously we don't have friends in every fan base, so we're going to utilize you guys to go ahead and explain your emotions on this overreaction Monday. Go ahead and tweet us. All you got to use is...
Starting point is 02:20:53 This ended up being number two overall trend, I believe, which we are incredibly thankful that everybody participates. But also, we're very thankful that people utilize it as a therapy session and really let it out, AJ. I mean, some people really let it out on their teams. And I get a good enjoyment out of reading them because this is what's good about the sport. This is what's good about the sport. This one's from Nick Maraldo. He's a noted Pittsburgh Steeler fan.
Starting point is 02:21:19 Hashtack, I don't want to overreacts. But we finally have an offense that can score actual points. But now, the vaunted steel curtain defense is a soulless, life-sucking money pit that can't run, tackle, cover, communicate, or seemingly function at a professional level in any capacity.
Starting point is 02:21:40 feels like nothing good coming from that defense. Let's go to the man himself. Nick, once you sent this tweet, did you feel better? And have you changed your opinion from that moment until now? Opinion certainly has not changed. Thank you. You read that very well,
Starting point is 02:21:54 and you put the emphasis on all the right syllables because that's how it felt typing that out and watching that game last night. Watching these guys just fall flat on their face with a 10-point lead and an opportunity to close out a game on national TV against a big-time opponent with all these great storylines
Starting point is 02:22:09 with Aaron in the pack and the defense just couldn't get it done. Couldn't tackle anybody. Couldn't cover. It's the same thing week after week. They get out gained in every game. They give up these huge chunk plays, massive third downs. They just let them walk right down the field. It sucks. AJ, it might be because the uniforms. Nick's not really
Starting point is 02:22:25 talking about that. Yeah, I think I heard Tony say that he was not able to tackle in those uniforms. I think if they would have black pants, maybe, it would have been a little better on the eyes. I think I like the helmets. I like the matte, like yellow helmets. That's all right. I think the pants just really threw me for a loop, I guess.
Starting point is 02:22:41 I think we're all pretty confused by him. And then the icy whites from Green Bay obviously look incredible, but this defense has been the talking point all season basically for Steelers fans. Yeah, we're not enough people talking about that either. The Bengals and Packers, all white back-to-back weeks.
Starting point is 02:22:54 May there's an issue with that as well. Should that be illegal, you think? Maybe. This is the worst Steelers defense. I'm not just saying this. Statistically, it's come out today and last night since 1988, and that's 37 years because that was the year I was born.
Starting point is 02:23:11 So if there's any accountability within this organization at all, heads will roll. Amen. Okay. I can't have the worst defense that an organization has had in 37 years
Starting point is 02:23:23 and not change anything. With that much money. They're spending money on us. Thank you, Connor. That is a great point that I forgot to say. They paid everyone. What are you changing?
Starting point is 02:23:32 Week 9. Where is it started? The top or the bottom. Oh, geez. This is our. Reaction Monday. We're certainly experiencing, especially with a primetime game and a good opponent. We call all the pieces. We're supposed to go on a Super Bowl run. Why didn't it look like it? Is what Pittsburgh's saying? Let's go to another overreaction, shall we?
Starting point is 02:23:49 This is from Josh Dorsey. Hashtag I don't want to overreacts. But, Sig and the boys put their sigs out on UCLA's asterisk. Colts continue to roll and beat the Titans. According to Siss. They're renaming the Tennessee Shightons. Been since 2012 with the last running back MVP, J.T. 25. MVP. Life is good in the state of Indiana. Amen, Josh Dorsey. And Jonathan Taylor's special. This guy's so good. He's so good. The angle that we had from where we were sitting on the tight rope down the sideline, he was running away from us. It just didn't make any sense. Like just physics didn't make sense with how big he is, how fast he is, how strong he is. Somebody's touching him and him looking down and being able to keep his balance. He's special. This guy's really good.
Starting point is 02:24:32 And his celebration is sick, AJ. His celebration is amazing. All I think of is his knees must feel so good. His Patel attendants. Everything feels great to be full speed and then go into this little hop situation. He is awesome. His vision, his like his ability to jump cut and set up his blocks. It's wild watching this dude run. I think he's honestly only getting better as the year goes as well. And the offensive line only getting better seemingly as well. There's obviously huge holes now Jonathan Taylor will create those. Danny Diamond's being a threat of a run. Connor reminded us also a huge piece of what they have to do in the box with Jonathan Taylor, but he's special to watch. And the balance that they have on the office.
Starting point is 02:25:08 I think their first drive, he, Jonathan Taylor, got the first run. And they went like seven passes and one run on that. So it's always, you can't really, you're always on your heels of this defense. But the top part of what Josh Dorsey, I believe, was named, said. Let's talk about that blowout, that 50 to 6 ass kicking of UCLA. I don't like that now. Finally, after UCLA gets their ass kick, now we get to see the head coach. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Yeah. No, no, no ice was bullshit. New Hysel week after week after week. It's like, all right. There we go. It's actually Coach Skipper. There you go. It's got his ass kid.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Tim Skipper, right? Tim Skipper. And I would just like to say. I appreciate that, bro. I'm just letting you know I'm with you, Tim. To his defense. How about him just being cool with New Heissel kind of doing his entire thing? Like, I think he showed incredible leadership just being like, hey, this is the thing in that.
Starting point is 02:25:55 And then as soon as they lose, I'll tell you, is Tim Skipper, no, that is kind of bullshit. Hey, Tim, you've done a great job over there. They couldn't use Jerry's picture. because Sig put a cigarette literally out on his forehead. Yeah, which could have happened, by the way. I mean, right before half, he gives an interview and just breaks down the game. God, partner's pretty good. Our office is pretty good.
Starting point is 02:26:15 It's pretty good. Yeah, we're up 30. We've got to finish it out. Second half. Any other questions? Just walks away. 27 and a half point favorites. This is twice now at home where they should beat teams and they only just beat them.
Starting point is 02:26:28 They fucking. No doubt or. Pound them. Same with the Colts. That's the state of their culture, I think. Same with the Colts as well. I said that on game day. as like my opening take, you know, because it's like each week, what is like the entire opening
Starting point is 02:26:41 with a slate that doesn't have a lot of high profile games? It's like you find out who's real. Like I think your culture gets exposed in these low profile games. Whenever your team could maybe kind of dip a little bit or maybe they're big time favorites and they don't live up to the hype, it's like you kind of expose who you are, I think, at these moments. Indiana has throttled people. I mean, just no questions asked. That's Signetti's culture, I think. And I'll tell you what, People in Indiana who are football people, which there's obviously are a group of football people out here, love basketball as well in racing. But they love what's going on. And Sig couldn't be the more perfect person to lead this Hoosiers team.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Could not be the more perfect person for this state, AJ. Think about it. That's why they locked them up. They knew what they knew what they had? And that's true. Like when you were, what, 27 point favorites you said going into this game? 27 and a half, yeah. Like that's when you see some great coaching when a team comes out and they do what they were supposed to do and they go annihilate a team that they felt like
Starting point is 02:27:35 they had the upper hand going in like that's a that's another different form of a coaching that you have to handle like how do you handle success now we're the big dogs here they expect us to win oh and we went out there and we put a stamp on it and we we won by much more than what they even expect like that's not an easy thing to do human nature is kind of let down and not pay attention to all the little things and you can tell sig is on those dudes every single day attention to detail all of it like he has him rolling that's talent evaluation too you know like i think the reason why sig came out and talked all his shit early is because he said he felt obligated to with what he learned in the first eight hours about everybody's expectations of what
Starting point is 02:28:09 Indiana is. But whenever he says, Google me, I win. I think that's because he had a lot of faith in his evaluation process in finding the right guys for the process. And it feels like he finds everybody with chips on their shoulder, kind of overlooked, and then he coaches the hell out of it. I think he coaches hard. I think he's a pretty accountability-driven coach out there. And he finds the guys that can take the coaching and get better and buy into the culture. He's done it back-to-back years now. We assume he's going to do it going forward. his eye for who's right for his program is spectacular. And he has never changed.
Starting point is 02:28:39 He's always been like that. I just saw an interview of him this weekend from IUP, which is D2 school in Pennsylvania. He's the same exact guy. But was this the Pepsi and Milk game? Yeah. Nate Bargetti. He was awesome.
Starting point is 02:28:52 Oh, yeah. He was incredible. He's special talent. Nate Pargetzi is a special talent, you know, just like operating at a very high level. They call it to Harvard of the South. And he said, I didn't go school here, but I certainly.
Starting point is 02:29:04 you know, bear the fan trauma or whatever he said. But his intelligence, like, radiates out of his brain whenever he starts talking. You know, there's like... The Texas being number one. There's, yeah. Texas is number one country, right? And I believe that, yeah, and pulled it off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:19 Because that could sound very stupid or dumb, pulled it off. It's like he's... Bargettze, he's a special town. I talked to him a little bit. He was in between shows. He was in Chicago on Friday night. He was doing Cincinnati on Saturday. So he flew in to do that.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Perfect. Which we were very, very thankful for him doing. obviously special. Kenny, Dirk's, you name it, like, there was a lot of ass to perform because it was Nashville, so we sent out a lot of requests to a lot of people, obviously with everybody's gigs and schedules trying to make it happen,
Starting point is 02:29:46 including the band that was up there with Dirk's and Kenny, it's like that whole band is a part of other bands and like just kind of piecing it all together for the good of the show is sweet. But Bargettze, he told me the number of shows he's doing this year and they're all arenas.
Starting point is 02:30:02 It's like... He'll do back-to-back nights. Congratulations, Nate. You did it. He did it. And his brain on display. Go ahead, AJ. I'm sorry, I cut down.
Starting point is 02:30:11 No, I saw him a couple months ago. I think I've told people, like, saw him a couple months ago at the basketball arena here at Ohio State. And he was unbelievable. Start to finish. He was great. And he sold out that arena, the whole arena, but then he's in the round. So there's all the – there's probably 20,000 people in there. He had a Saturday and Sunday night show both sold out, and I was like, man.
Starting point is 02:30:31 Yeah, I've known of his stuff. I've seen his stuff. I hadn't seen a stand-up yet live. He was unbelievable from top to bottom. Special. He's special. He's like a special talent. Doesn't swear.
Starting point is 02:30:42 Super, super smart. Callbacks, everything. And his delivery, he's not a nerd. You know, like sometimes super smart comics have a nerd delivery. It's like, nah, he's a fucking genius. This guy, expert level brain in this entire thing. I don't know how his picks did, but I appreciated that every single one of them. And then he was trying to recruit that five-star.
Starting point is 02:31:02 Jared Curtis? Is that what you're going to say, Conner? When BYU, Iowa State came up, and they got to him, and he just didn't give a fuck about the game. He went right to Jared Curtis. So he had Jared Curtis written down on his notes. He didn't have as many notes as everybody else. People have been shown up with notes since Timothy Shalame.
Starting point is 02:31:19 So Timothy Shalmay has kind of changed the way people feel about what they're allowed to do. Because Timothy Shalamey obviously came in, prepared, had notes, and we were all appreciative of that. I think a lot of these celebrities are like, I can't have notes. I've got to go in there and act like I know what I'm doing. and then they get up there and they see my shit and it's like, yo, I got notes on all this. We are living in this thing.
Starting point is 02:31:39 You should definitely take notes. These are a lot of teams. So, like, people have been coming up with notes and it's, like, very cool to see the prep that they put in. Jared Curtis, that kid's name, was written real big, just right at the bottom. Only thing I saw, like, in Big Marker. And I saw it, like, as soon as he sat down,
Starting point is 02:31:55 I was like, good notes. And then I heard him hit first time, Jared Curtis. He's like, he's here on a visit. He could save my house. He could do this entire thing, and he moves on to the next one. Then he hits it again. I look over at his sheet and I see Jared Curtis, I point at it. He goes, oh, yeah, we need him.
Starting point is 02:32:08 It's like he feels, he's like a part of the recruiting mission on there. I appreciated that. Clark Lee, too. He was good. Three days a week, water, our fasting. Yeah, he seems like, yeah, he's pretty squared away. That guy's pretty disciplined. Very, very disciplined.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Nate won seven and two. Is that what you said? Wow. He takes him and jelly roll, I think they're going to be tied. Jelly bubble, jelly six and two? Jelly went eight. and two maybe we had 10 picks the one then he went seven and two so I don't know
Starting point is 02:32:37 which ones pick Minnesota too fucking lay up and he kind of just gave one away there but didn't he say these are same schools he did which he's also wrong about that but that's okay he's a fucking talent he's a talent I was lingering they are they are really lingering I tell you what
Starting point is 02:32:52 boy that was a fun game to watch I feel I told these guys I feel like I got a pretty good beat on the PJ Fleck tenure at Minnesota kind of know when You know, hey, probably going to beat you Nebraska here. And then, boy, did they just fucking lay an egg against the Hawks. Hawks, you know, had a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown, a punt return touchdown, and a pick six all in the first half.
Starting point is 02:33:15 So it was a laugh for pretty early. It was an Iowa clinic. It was. And you made the succinct point on game day, Pat, of, I was always lingering. You know, no one wants to believe in them. Hey, everybody thinks this team stinks. They don't score points. You know, they're going to win every game six to nothing.
Starting point is 02:33:31 They're not. And boy, do they got a big one. a couple weeks here with Oregon coming to Kinnick. And I'll tell you what, you win that one. You pack your bags to whatever SEC school you're going to be traveling to for the playoff. Okay, so when is that game against Oregon? November 8th.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Which is buy week this week, then you got that. Yeah, Oregon and I will both have buys this week. Oh, two weeks to prepare for each other. Biggo. And now it's just kind of waiting on, hey, what time is this game going to be at? Is it going to be a night game at Kinnick? Which they fare very well. Or, you know, do we maybe get one of those sleepy, cold, dreary?
Starting point is 02:34:03 after 9 o'clock local start time for Oregon. We'll see. I don't know. Oregon's been able to handle that. They have. I don't think they would be certainly worried. And Oregon is certainly a good team. You know who else is? They never gets talked about. Your hair looks awesome, AJ. Just saw it from the side. Great fade. You're doing great things up there. The Ohio State Buckeyes never get talked about.
Starting point is 02:34:23 I mean, never, ever again. Number one team in the country, reigning national champs. Julian Sane's complete like 87% of his passes or something like that. Everybody's so good. Their defense hasn't really given up a touchdown. than the Illinois game. That's literally the only team that's early scored on them. And nobody's even talking about plus 225 to win the national championship. There's 135 schools that are vying
Starting point is 02:34:43 for the national. They're plus 225. Nobody's talking about them, AJ. Do you guys like that or not like that? I like that. I would assume the coaches and everyone else likes that as well. The players can still handle success. How do you handle success? And their expectations are so high. The standard is so high, which is a great thing.
Starting point is 02:34:59 They are the reason why the standard is that way. But yeah, it's another different coaching challenge, I think, to try to keep your team dialed in and never let your foot off the gas. But yeah, you don't really hear about it. I'm sure I'm going to, I have Ohio bias. I live here, whatever, so I don't hear it as much nationally, but it's true. Like, I don't, Julian's saying, I don't think it's the pub he deserves, and I don't think the team really does either. But I think that's a great thing because we know, like, all that matters is the end of the season for Ohio State. What was this? Last year or two years
Starting point is 02:35:26 yo, we didn't talk about Georgia. Georgia on game day. We didn't talk about Georgia for the first six or seven weeks. And I, Georgia people, going to be surprised to hear this. I mentioned, like, are we going to talk about Georgia? Like Georgia, I feel like they're very good. Georgia season's coming is basically what they say in the entire college football world. I think Ohio State's in that same department. Like, Ohio State season's coming. We're definitely going to talk about them. It's like, well, should we set the seed that they're very good? Everybody knows they're very good. And I think that is kind of just like the national conversation. It's like Ohio State's really good.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Who have they played? Well, they knocked off Texas. Well, it's Texas. That's a good question. is Texas. What are they? And then you talk about the defense. They never give up any points. Yeah, but who have they? It's like there's always that. So I guess Ohio State season comes in a bit, but they're dominating people. Georgia won that year, right? In dominant fashion. That was kind of the same thing in the NBA
Starting point is 02:36:17 a few years ago. Well, a couple of over the Celtics. Yeah, nobody was kind of talking about had short odds, just like Ohio State. So history kind of tells us that maybe they are dominant. Maybe this team is very good. And shout to Ryan Day, being able to continue to have success after getting to the mountain top let's go to another overreaction shall we he's from brandon he's a craft handler hashtag i don't want to overreact
Starting point is 02:36:40 but everything in alana needs to go ownership coaches starters and the most expensive backup ever just sell the whole package and bulldoze the dumb ass stadium hawks and his stupid soccer team can leave to itlanta ruined sports teams fuck all right brandon that's a good stadium that's a frustrating football team yeah that is the carolina pant and then we're up. And then we get killed by the dolphins. This guy has pink eye. He's a swollen eye and he's wearing a visor and he kills us. Tyree kills the on team. They're going
Starting point is 02:37:11 to quit. They're going to do this entire thing. They're coming into our house, beautiful stadium, and then they lose. That's frustrating. I can see how Falcons fans are little upside down. You're going to be okay, craft handler. Let's go to the next one here. This is from 69 here. Okay. No limit Zay, 99. On that note, before we go any further, no limit
Starting point is 02:37:31 one, I believe. As a person that grew up in that area, you can take this down here for a second, Foxy. As a person that grew up in that era, I would like to say, I completely forgot that Snoop Dog was a member of No Limit there for a bit as the Versus was taking place this past weekend. I got a chance to catch like the last 30 minutes or so of it, 25 minutes or so. I love the Verses. Okay, I'm a big fan. Through COVID, those are huge moments for us all to watch. I mean, it's a great, great thing.
Starting point is 02:38:00 Cash money taking on No Limit, massive piece of money. my life, so I was excited to get in there. Snoop Dogg's showing up for Master Pete. Everybody's showing up for Master P was certainly a thing. And then the, just the nostalgia of, I remember when every song that this group of people put out was just hype as fucking. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:21 Just here we go, we're going. And then cash money. Juvenile looked good. Still in game shake. Juvenile was working. I mean, he had to now. He had to carry a lot of the load over there with Birdman, May Fresh, good to see him as well.
Starting point is 02:38:31 By the way, he, I remember when they got I mean just that whole run they took over every summer basically of our lives so to see them back was good I think no limit one though debauch your thoughts on
Starting point is 02:38:42 watching the entire thing a lot of people saying no wheezy gonna be tough to have cash money win that thing I mean Snoop coming in at the very end and then leaving I mean that was quite a moment in that versus that was kind of like a game seven moment
Starting point is 02:38:55 I think going into it you saw okay cash money too many hits over the decade still pretty relevant in today's music so it'll probably be sweep maybe a gentleman sweep and then as it kind of got going on later in the game no limit kind of came along then once snoop came in and then they played a little way verse on a millie without low way being there i think that kind of took some win out of their cells juvie did show
Starting point is 02:39:18 up i think he him and uh mea x was uh the MVP's of the night but it was a great little flashback right there for the old head it was great oh yeah i had a great time i was just looking on my phone just staring on my phone oh i forgot about it i didn't and i also did not remember that snoop on that song. I've heard that song a thousand times. So many stadiums. I can't sing the song. Sure, sure. It'd be fun to be able to karaoke. But you just can't do it. No, you can't do it.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Fudge them. Can't. Can't even. No. I mean, that's a massive piece of the entire. It is the whole song. Yeah, because you're with it. Yeah. Because they're not yours and yours. You know, it's not really. But I could certainly. You had to be, you had to know exactly where you were. were whatever venue that you were at, you had to be, you know, with your people.
Starting point is 02:40:08 What's that? Yeah, at that time? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's not a fighting to a lot of these songs. Wasn't a bunch of phones out during that time. No, there was not. It got fighting at some point, but most times it was just some.
Starting point is 02:40:18 I don't know. It kind of like a version of Mosh Pit. It used to be much more hype of a society, I think. You know? Yeah. I watch NBA. Young boy, is that his arena shows? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:29 That's like the young kids version of like Little Wayne. I'm watching it. Yeah, and I'm like, okay. So there is still, okay, we still got that going on. And some arenas nowadays, like, nope, that's not going on. And what are we thinking? We're not doing that. I like to see that type of stuff.
Starting point is 02:40:41 Now, obviously, the motivating music is how I view it. It's gonna be different for the modern age than it is for us as old ass people now. You know, like we're not gonna listen to their generation in the same way because they've lived a completely different life than us. That's why that verses is so cool. Like just going back in time basically and just kind,
Starting point is 02:41:03 That's why when I talked Carson Daly, I met him the other week. I was like, man, so reminiscent of a different time when everything was kind of banging. But only the bangers survive, which is why that versus is good. Who's up next for that? No clue. Complex bought it. That's good play. It was a complex versus.
Starting point is 02:41:19 They're all up on stage. Big crowd. Many fresh show, we've got to get out of here in seven minutes. That's the thing I didn't like. I felt like it could have went on for another hour, number one. And then the location, even that tweet, I think they said Louisiana, like both of these groups were from. Louisiana, New Orleans area. So you would think having the crowd there, because the crowd suck. The crowd absolutely sucked. It was in Vegas, you know, young people probably don't know a lot
Starting point is 02:41:41 of the songs that were kind of some, you know, album cuts. But it was a great flashback, a great time while some football was on. I was tweeting some things up. Like, what the hell are you talking about? Football's on right now. It was your tweet that I saw. I think you said juvie's in game shape or something like that. And I was like juvie. Juvenile? Oh shit. And then I go, I couldn't find it, had to go to their Instagram to find the live thing. I'm like, boom, let me get in there. As soon as I get in there, many freshest walk around. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't even know all the drama that was potentially about to unfold on. Who's there? Who's not there and all of it? I mean, obviously that is
Starting point is 02:42:14 shout out first. All right, let's move on. No Limits Zay, 99. Hashtrag I don't want to react. But the state of Louisiana football is in shambles right now. Brian Kelly's summer sausage looking ass out of here. Kelly Moore's strong head ass just got here. And we are about ready to throw his ass out the club. Football guards help us. All we have is YB and LSU Women, B, ball.
Starting point is 02:42:41 All right, well, enjoy it all, say. Enjoy it all down there. I love that. I love that. There's a little Louisiana accent in the tweet deal. Yeah. Yeah, bow. Head-ass, looking ass. Get him the fuck out of our town. Kelly Moe's in trouble down there.
Starting point is 02:42:58 Yeah. I've seen shock a little yesterday. Uh-oh. He's starting going forward, right? Yeah. Boy, I hope that. Oh, you already said that? I believe they did make that decision.
Starting point is 02:43:08 So, that's not right. The thought of, you want Rattler to give him a little bit more opportunity? I just don't want to Shuck to get his head taking off. I mean, Rattuck, whatever. I mean, they're one in seven with Rattler. I personally think he's kind of sweet. I'm worried Shuck is going to be looking left
Starting point is 02:43:22 than someone's going to be coming right, just based off what I saw yesterday. Yeah, I understand that there's a chance that team's not going to be good for a big. Wasn't that the expectation going in, though, that they weren't that they weren't going to be good? Longest odds. I don't think a whole lot of people gave him much of a chance heading into the season. So, yeah, it's not a shock, is it?
Starting point is 02:43:39 I don't know. It sounds like Zay said. I don't care how bad they're supposed to be. It's worse than he could have matched. Yeah, and unfortunately, they kind of put all their chips into, like, well, whatever. We'll have the worst record in the NFL, and we'll draft Arch number one overall next year. He'll be starting here like his grandpa did, and now that's kind of down the pooper, too. So, you know, not good.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Let taste some hell spin it. I mean, what are we doing? Now is the time to be like, you know what? fuck it. Put taste of milk. That's tough. I mean, that's like what Max Crosby did that to Mac Jones. All right, let's move along. Sorry, Zay. He's on Team No Limit as well, it appeared.
Starting point is 02:44:12 At Josh Father, 0017, you know, like Godfather. Hashach, I don't want to overreacts, but Bill's dropping a 40 burger on the Panthers don't mean shit. A.O. probably out for the year. Allen doesn't look good. And Cook is our savior, but didn't touch the ball
Starting point is 02:44:28 in the last 12 minutes of the game versus the Falcons. We're losing by 50 this week. What? They play the Chiefs. What? Why did you pick this one in it? This was the top one. There really weren't too many. This is the top one?
Starting point is 02:44:40 It was. I came back and saw this one multiple times. I don't know if people kind of just acted like the Panthers suck, so that doesn't matter at all. But I saw a lot of, you know, a lot of this. I just kept coming back to this. Wow. They're not happy with the Panthers, you know, performance.
Starting point is 02:44:54 And they got the Chiefs. 40 to 9. I know. What more can you ask for? 40 to 9. That's our reaction Monday, AJ. These people know whether or not they can win a Super Bowl. Let's go to the next one, shall we?
Starting point is 02:45:05 This one's from Caleb. He's a Broncos fan, Caleb. Hashtack, I don't want to react, but the Denver Broncos are four points away from eight now. We run the AFC West this year. Bo motherfucking Knicks is a dog. The defense is special. Just give us the Lombardi already.
Starting point is 02:45:22 I like to hear that out of a fan base. I like to hear that of a fan base. Now, we are one of their losses to Colts, so let's assume that we would have got one more point than you regardless. But I do like that this Broncos team, is exactly what people were expecting out of them coming into the year, AJ. Yeah, I mean, I think it's good.
Starting point is 02:45:37 Do you trust Bo Nix to lead him on a run down, you know, through the playoffs? Can he take him to the Super Bowl, you think? I like, Bo. What do you say? I do, too. I do, I do, I'm saying. I don't think everybody does for some reason when I hear people talk about them. I don't think they fully trust them. I do. I think the dude's awesome. There's a reason. He had a million reps in college. He's played for a long time. I think a lot of that, I put a lot into that, I think.
Starting point is 02:45:59 The fact that he has seen a lot in college, and he's with Sean Peyton, honestly. And like we can say a million times, their defense is legit. If you have a defense that is able to play at such an elite level, I think you always have a chance. Is somebody get hurt on defense? Denver? Sir Tanir and a second.
Starting point is 02:46:15 He came back. No, he missed the second half. Okay, so we'll obviously, we should have asked after about that. That's 100% of them. I love those unis too. Yes. Those are good throwback. Those are good throwbacks. I like the Broncos fans are happy and Cowboys fans. What are they? What are the Cowboys?
Starting point is 02:46:32 Mediocre. They need a pass rusher. They need a lot on defense. Trevon Diggs, I.R. That kind of snuck in the wire on Saturday. Yeah, what was that about? I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:46:41 Yeah, so we don't know. Yeah, there's been a lot of, like, talk around that. All right, let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Bryce Dean 14. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the birds are back, bitch. Seriani and Potholo still suck, but Sequin Barclay is running wild. Tank to tank Biggs be ready to come in and lighten the load. Jalen Hurps's MVP level.
Starting point is 02:47:01 the past two weeks, and the Cowboys suck. Life couldn't get better, brother. All right. Head coach and offense quarter don't know shit, but everybody else is good, including the offense. That's awesome. I appreciate that out of Philly fans. You think they'll ever come around on Siriani or some people who ever come around on Siriani, AJ? I mean, they'll come around like every time he wins a Super Bowl, and then the second he loses
Starting point is 02:47:21 a game, they'll be back out. Even their winning games. Yeah, you're right. It's just the way it goes, I guess. Petolo, going under center, DeBuch. This is what everybody said they need to do. They do it to have success, won't they love them? Yeah, it makes it up.
Starting point is 02:47:33 Look, Patullo, he just got to keep his blinders on, keep calling games. And will the people against Nick come around? Probably not. Maybe after a three-peat, but they've been two of the last four Super Bowls fresh off of one right now. So, yeah, once Barclay gets rolling,
Starting point is 02:47:46 I think Eagles fans want to see that, obviously. And then the passing game going as well, I think they'll be happy. What were they calling Pato a couple weeks back? Kevin, you blow at calling place? Oh, you blow at calling place. That was rude. Yeah, ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:48:00 I didn't like that one bit. Sounds like they're still not a completely sold. I'm just got the next ever reaction. It's from Chopperoo. Hashtag I don't want to have react to, but there's actually nothing to react to. The Dallas Cowboys have been letting me down for 35 years that there is just numbness. All right. Sorry to hear that Chopper.
Starting point is 02:48:17 Tough spot to be. He's desensitized to the suck. Oh, man. Just last week, too, coming off a big win. We're going to trade for Max Crosby or Trey Hendrickson. and then they just get absolutely fucking shite stomped, and now there's just no hope anymore. Now they're numb.
Starting point is 02:48:34 Yeah. Let's go to Berendir at Berendir X, hashtag I don't want to react, but Lamar is coming back Thursday, and it's belt-to-ass for Miami. Ravens run the table, we'll win the north. We're all the way back, baby. It's still hashtag fire horrible season after them. So there's been a trend here. Seems like there's a trend.
Starting point is 02:48:53 Yes. Seems like there's a trend. Yeah, we win. We'd like that. but also don't love at all what this guy's doing. That's the head coach of this entire thing. Are fans ever going to be happy from what you're reading there, Ty Shott? No, and I
Starting point is 02:49:05 think, you know, now, especially with what's going on in college football, I think it's just amplified. Like, there's always, you know, some of this a little bit, but people are seeing like, well, fuck it, we can just fire our coach right now. Who cares? We'll find someone who's better. That's the way it goes. Yeah, and I don't know where all those coaches exist, but hopefully they'll find
Starting point is 02:49:21 them. And here's the last one. This is from AJ Dalmire at the age 55. Hashtack, I don't overreact, but Tucker Kraft is the best tight end in the league. National tight end day, and this man put the tight ends on his back. Death, taxes, Tucker Kraft, yak. Packers
Starting point is 02:49:37 bringing home the Super Bowl. Oh, and hey, AP voters, rank the Hawkeyes, you cowards. Hashtag yak, God. Hashtag GoPack. And that appears to be Tucker Kraft having a good old time in a car home. So this is your burner. No, this is not my burner. I just said, you know what? This guy's making some very salient points. I think
Starting point is 02:49:53 this should probably be in there. Tucker Crafts and B. Shout out to all the overreactions. Appreciate you guys. I love Tucker Kraft, man. So good. Love that face mask, too. The triple thing on the size? Sweet.
Starting point is 02:50:05 Yeah, he's got real moxie. So much swag. And he's impossible to tackle. AJ, what are you doing? You got to go saw the knees up, but he might knee you in the head. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no easy way to get this guy.
Starting point is 02:50:18 He's a big old dude as well. Helmet is awesome. The helmet is good. Look at Jordans. It's cleats. Yeah, he's clean. Tucker Crafts got the moxie. flag the durability, the gritty.
Starting point is 02:50:28 They had no chance of those jerseys. I agree. Just coming out in the locker room. Yeah, they went in half time. I think a couple of them just probably walked past the mirror. Oh, fuck him not doing. Oh, geez. Shock themselves.
Starting point is 02:50:42 We're done tackling. We're done doing anything. We're not wearing any. They put us out in public like it. This is unbelievable. Aaron, new helmet there, right? This is new helmet for him? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:50:52 I was looking at that. Is it different? I know the black pads inside make it look weird. Yeah, he, uh, he's switching. Helmets for the Bengals game. So maybe go back. I know they made him. He played good.
Starting point is 02:51:02 No, no. Aaron's been awesome. None of it's a fault. But, you know, if it's not broke. I did, like Chris Collins were talking about how Aaron has been, Aaron was pretty proud of the mobility in extending the play. Because they had the time from snap to throw, and then the time from snap to throw the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 02:51:20 And Aaron's been able to extend the plays like he was back in the day. So it has been fun to watch him do his thing for this Pittsburgh. Steelers team vastly different than what we think of the Steelers team. Offense doing well, defense doing ass. Yeah, before the season, if I would have said, hey, you know, there's a weakness, it would have been the offense, and that has not been the case, and Aaron's been awesome.
Starting point is 02:51:38 So, you know, shout on him, shout out D.K., he's been great. But, yeah, you know, the defense just sucks out. I love if I pissed off Aaron gets too. Oh, the best. What did he call someone last night? I think he said cop, stutter. Okay. Like something around, like, cop stuttering, I think.
Starting point is 02:51:54 He's always angry. When you're going to cop. something, like steal something, and then he slowed down. So you stutter in the coping of something. So I think he said, you cop stutter. Yeah, he said you cop stuttered. He can't be doing that, obviously. So that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:52:10 They even ran slow-mo going into commercial of him saying that a couple times, a couple of times him talking about the stuttering around there. Why do you think Aaron feels about it all? Honestly, what are your thoughts? I think he looks like he physically feels great. Like how he is moving. I think every week he feels like it looks like he's moving a little bit better and better and his arm is very live.
Starting point is 02:52:29 I don't know. I'm sure. I honestly would bet that he's sitting there thinking like, hey, this is it's a long season. I'm not going to ride the roller coaster of ups and downs. I think he has trust in the defense. He knows they'll figure it out probably when it matters. And yeah, I think he's proven a lot of people wrong with how he's playing.
Starting point is 02:52:45 But also, life would be a lot better for winning. You know, life's a lot better when we're winning. The amount of passion, we talk about his reaction and saying, talking about the stuttering of the copying of stuff, he's all in. Oh, yeah. I mean, it is, there's no lack of disinterest or anything like that for him. It feels like he is very, very, very, very dialed in.
Starting point is 02:53:06 Absolutely. Fully invested. He came into the season, at least saying this would be his last year. I don't know where he stands on that now, but you talk about how he feels. I want to know how Cam Hayward and T.J. Watt and those boys over there feel because it's got to be a tough Monday sitting back and watching this tape and obviously, you know, having those hard conversations with each other. But you think you have the talent in that room.
Starting point is 02:53:26 are already making that money. It's a lot of like established vets who have played a ton of down, so it's not like you're depending on young kids to try to figure it out and play a role. So I'm interested to see how that unit and that leadership turns around that side of the point. It's funny.
Starting point is 02:53:40 You said, Cam actually said there's a lack of buying and heart on the defense side. That's very concerning. Yikes. What? Mid-season. A lack of buy-in and heart on his defense?
Starting point is 02:53:48 Is that what the scheme you think? Is that what is that? What is that? Yeah, like people aren't buying into the scheme or the culture? I mean, the scheme's been a scheme for 40, years at this point.
Starting point is 02:53:58 Julian Evanson knows what they're doing. Yeah. Everybody does. It's funny. The defense cornered everywhere he's been, the defense got worse. Sounds like we know who turns not happy with. And on that note, that's our overreaction Monday.
Starting point is 02:54:16 Good luck tonight, AJ, with your Can City Chiefs minus 10. 10. They can do it. The Debutt says it's probably a three-score game. They're going to win by three scores. If it continues the trend of this week for the NFL season, and, yeah, there's a chance that's... That place is going to be so loud. Can imagine tonight, after the anthem,
Starting point is 02:54:30 how loud that's going to be. It's a very intimidating place to play. Marcus Marriott is going to say, yeah, exactly. He is awesome. I do like Mariton. I'm down one on AJ, so obviously I have to pick the opposite
Starting point is 02:54:40 of what he picks in this particular case, so give me these commanders. Let's go, boys. Let's fucking go, boys. Nobody thinks we're going to be able to do this. Nobody. They're better than they've ever been on that other side. Ted Swift's going to be there.
Starting point is 02:54:55 Damn, I took... Joe Buck's going to be on a call. Dan Roloski traveled out to an RV just to do NFL live. It's a big night. Everybody's there for the Patrick Mahomes show. I will tell you, Commander, I am excited to watch that as well. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:10 Yeah, yeah. But need you guys keep this thing close. Maybe win. Fuck it. Maybe. I mean, she after said it, Mariotas already won a playoff game in Arrowhead. It's not going to be louder tonight than it was when they put in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:55:21 Yeah, you're right. Against Alex Smith. It's true. Yeah, you're right. In a. of the cheese and all you think is jeez
Starting point is 02:55:34 they're everywhere cerebral favorites MVP favorite how could they lose who's banging drum great question Rob Wriggle Is he? No I think it's I don't know Rob or the guy from uh what was the show
Starting point is 02:55:46 Eric Stone Street a little respect you piece of shit There you go Or J-suck? Jay Sudd Paul Rudd Yeah a lot of them Melissa Atheridge Who's Wham
Starting point is 02:55:56 Army Anchorman Oh, David Kekner? I believe he's Can't City guy. What if David Kekner's on the drum that I, you guys would be mom boy. Bad news. You got the bad news for the commanders. It's Chiefs Hall of Famer Christian Acoye.
Starting point is 02:56:13 Okay. Oh, he's going to be. The Nigerian. That's correct, yeah. I don't like that one bit on my commanders. I don't stay a lot, right? Or no.
Starting point is 02:56:22 Change him. I'm looking at it. I've dehydrated myself pretty good. He's got a pounded. Sweat jackets. Yeah, yeah. It's been pretty. Shout NFL Mexico. Much gross.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Mealy goes honestly. It's a cool jacket. It's like speaking Spanish on my timeline. Zito! The work on that, on that dubbing. You know how this is for? Marriota. Mexico?
Starting point is 02:56:46 Oh, yeah. I don't know. Both of them? I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that goes. We're going to stay out of any international water or something. This one's for
Starting point is 02:56:59 This one's for the commanders Okay, come on now Okay Plus 10 and a half Yeah It's a low rim It's probably harder It's so easy
Starting point is 02:57:10 Too easy Too easy Don't overshoot it Don't overshoot it Wouldn't be that good I think if you were to think about this shot Yeah
Starting point is 02:57:19 I got to take 24 inches off this Because it's down at 8 feet It was up at 1050s 24 inches, so I should turn my elbow in a little bit tighter. Smart. At that distance, the Coriolis effect comes into.
Starting point is 02:57:32 Yeah. You're in an elevated position, too, on the state. All out altitude and at altitude. So that is, you know what I mean? There's multiple windage. Yeah. There's no wind in here. Thank God needed it a little bit again.
Starting point is 02:57:45 I was looking for a breeze when I had that thing on just anywhere. Can I find some air? All right, so this one's commanders plus ten and a half. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Maybe Mexico. Good adjustment.
Starting point is 02:57:57 Right there. Oh. Live right there. Hand in the hoop. I was a little strong. That was it. Yep. Bang.
Starting point is 02:58:06 Fuck it. Nice. That went in. One line. Yeah. I should a while a little stronger. That really was the perfect parabolo. You shoot the wrong size ball.
Starting point is 02:58:18 That hoops only used to small balls. There it is. Calibrated. Too far. Oh, jeez. It's an eight-foot hoop. Commanders. It's hard.
Starting point is 02:58:30 Oh. We are commanders. Bam-pah-bomb-bomb-bomb. Yep. Oh, no. Oh. Command's gonna get the shit beat out. I didn't like it from the very beginning.
Starting point is 02:58:43 You guys heard me. Mm-hmm. I didn't like you that. It's true. Mm-mm-mm. Yeah, I like what you're doing. Yep. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 02:58:51 That's a U-ball hoop. That's not a basketball. finish off the shite slate get debone to do a 360 dunk or something on that eight footer from a free throw line you're asking for Achilles yeah
Starting point is 02:59:03 that might take the wall down debon heard that he's going to try to do that today and when this wall falls exactly debunk that's on you AJ yep okay the whole brick wall's coming out of here I mean it's not a word from the room though whole brick wall falls just hope his body
Starting point is 02:59:16 doesn't make a mess so this one is this one is this one is action. Here we go. Yeah, tuck the elbow. There it is, yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:32 Oh, shit. It's the elevated position. That's all. That's all. That's just the elevator. You didn't cock your elbow enough on the first one. Oh, yeah. See, lock it and load it.
Starting point is 02:59:46 Good line. I don't feel good about any of it tonight. All right. Throw football. I might as well punt it. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Got it.
Starting point is 02:59:59 Oh. It's pretty good. Oh, yeah. Right online. Okay. Oh. This one's for the commanders. This one's for all the marble.
Starting point is 03:00:15 Okay. Yep. Dang. I'm changing my pick. God, me. I didn't like it one bit. about commanders minus three no chief
Starting point is 03:00:26 alternate line chiefs minus 17 and a half you all spread it 16 and a half sorry be a friend telling something like someone might change your life for in a seat there that was poor performance I don't like it
Starting point is 03:00:41 it's eight foot hoot that's what I'm saying no I gotta be able to mentally adjust to that I got to be able to change the court it's a fucking it's a cemetery just misses and failures everywhere. But you know what?
Starting point is 03:00:57 We will. And we'll be back tomorrow to overreact to what happens tonight. As the Washington commanders, keep it close. Maybe even win. There's a chance. Yep.
Starting point is 03:01:09 Against Can't see, Chiefs. All right, AJ, you're the man. We love you, buddy. Thank you guys. Love you guys. Hey, thank you for speaking about Nick. So, I know that's not easy, but I think it's good for people to hear. you're you know so i appreciate you doing that and i know we only plan for a little bit of time i should
Starting point is 03:01:25 have i appreciate you doing that just know that we all fucking love you and all his family and friends dude we are so sorry that that happened okay appreciate yeah man thank you i've yeah nick had a gigantic impact on legit so many people like that's hopefully i think very very positive influence on everyone and even people don't know him so that's what i love seeing through all this all the terribleness like you see the impact he did have on people it's it's awesome I got to see it first-hand. Fucking good, dude. All right.
Starting point is 03:01:53 Be your friends, tell your friends, something nice in my change of life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.
Starting point is 03:01:59 Goodbye.

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