The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1439 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, World Series Game 3 Recap, Daniel Jones, Karl Ravech, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by 3X Super Bowl Champion, and former Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians to recap last night’s Monday Night Football game, give his biggest takeaway’s from the weekend, give game balls for his best performances in the NFC and AFC, and finally, give out his midseason awards. Joining the progrum to chat about this past week’s game, the season as a whole, and how he’s taken to Indianapolis so perfect, is Quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts, Daniel Jones. Later, ESPN legend, Sunday Night Baseball play-by-play announcer, Karl Ravech joins the show to recap last night’s wild, 18 inning World Series game that saw the Dodgers take a 2-1 lead, the brilliance of Shohei Ohtani, and how he see’s tonight’s World Series game going. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humberland, the Thunderdome, on this B.A. Day, October 28, 2025. This program begins right now. Football! Yeah, I love that. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a man who coach 47 years of football. He's our Super Bowl champion, our coach, ladies and gentlemen, that's Coach B.A. Hey, B.A. Hey, good games today. I felt like that really came from your soul as you're wearing bright orange and maroon for the Virginia Tech Hokies. I do believe you're representing here.

All day to day, baby. Okay, so you got the shoes as well. Foxy, I don't know if you've showcased. I mean, he is swaggered as he was walking in his place, hokeyed out of his mind. You guys still in the middle of a coaching search right? Yes, we are. And you're trying to find the best out there.

The best. A lot of jobs open, B.A., a lot of jobs open. I think more to come. Yeah, I think so. I believe it's a scary time to be a college football coach. If you're not winning games and your team is expecting you to win games, and your boosters are expecting you to win games. One half of the Hammer,

Don, Cowboys AP Tone is here. you look sweet toxic table at boston connor and at tye schmidt great to see you boys and uh they've done it ladies and gentlemen the NFL for the first time in 55 years has done it more than half a century it took for this magical moment to take place only one game on the entire slate was a one score game this the first time that's happened since 1970 that's 55 years the next time this will predict uh predicted to happen 2080 okay 2080 so that's the first time so that's the NFL was saying, we had one bad weekend, okay, in 55 years. And I'd like to let them know going into the night, we thought there was a chance

it was going to be a blowout, especially with Kansas City Chiefs, being the Kansas City Chiefs at this point in time. Now, that was an ugly game. I believe it was like the first five out of the six possessions was a turnover of some sort, either an interception or on Dons. Patrick Mahomes was throwing interceptions, and Marcus Marriott said, don't you worry about, I'll do one of those as well. And Patrick Holmes was like, wait, I got more out here. Now, Travis Kelsey was bumbling, fumbling earlier. They had a real shite game. I mean, it was a shite game taking place on that football field.

And then all of a sudden, boom, the Kansas Chiefs start to do it. Can't see Chiefs start doing. And then Travis Kelsey starts going absolutely absurd. Or She Rice gets in the end zone. And inevitably, the Kansas Chiefs win 28 to 7 in a game that was not very thrilling, but it is nice to know that these Chiefs is all the way back. The Chiefs are going to be who we thought they were going to be coming into this season. The Chiefs are who they have been over the last few years.

Travis Kelsey is getting younger. I saw him in the open field trial, a little two steps on people. And obviously he's making some magic, but with what Patrick Mahomes is able to do on any given football field at any given moment, we all understand how good the Chiefs could be. Now they're playing like it. So shout to the Chiefs being all the way back.

And maybe even better. Maybe even better than ever. Now, they were the public favorite last night, I believe, 70% of the money. So jot that one down for the public, getting a win over the sportsbook. Any other numbers hit in that particular game tone? Yeah, so more importantly, on the week,

favorites went 11 and 2 against the spread. which is the best record for favorites against the spread in the last 40 years. So, yes, they were shite games, mostly because all the favorites were blowing everybody out. So that will happen once every 50 years, once every 40 years. We're in for some more good football. They is who we thought they is, is what happened this weekend when they came to gambling. Kansas City has now outscored its opponent by 83 points, okay, this season. That's the greatest margin through eight games since 2020, and we all remember 2020.

Oh, what a team. Oh, time, team, yeah, team, yeah. Chief's average margin of victory in 2025, 19, and 2024. 7.1, so they're winning a little bit more decisively. Coach Bea, what do you see from this Chief's team now versus maybe what they were last year or in years past whenever they were playing a different style? Is this team only going to get better? And is this the Chiefs that we've come to fear of the rest of the league? Yeah, I think so. They're getting better. They're getting healthier. Receive Rice obviously makes a big difference than that offense, but their defense

is starting to play like Chief's defense. They're stopping the run. They're getting after the quarterback. And man, it's tough to win an arrowhead. What a great place to play football. I coached there for four years and went in there as a visitor. What's the best crowd ever? Coldish. Do you remember? He was interim head coach whenever Chuck Pagano was battling through leukemia and B.A.

was coach. One of our final, I think our last game of the season was at Kansas City. Kansas City was already out. It was freezing ass cold. I mean, freezing ass cold. I believe the halftime speech was let's get a win and get the fuck out of here. Just get some more. I believe was the soup. Yeah, that's exactly. That was exactly

the speech that he gave. And it was like they were still filled up though it was freezing ass cold they had no chance place was still filled up these chiefs fans deserve this and uh it seems like there's more trophies heading to the home of the cheese now yesterday i was pretty vocal about the scheduling of certain things yes you okay it is football season it's a monday night that's monday night football time why do we have the World Series happening that I'm actually interested in? I'm actually interested in this year

for maybe a few others in the past. I've certainly been interested as we've got some static picking up here on the set there. But I've certainly been more interested in this one, mostly because what Shohay and the boys have been doing have been absolutely electrifying. And then the Blue Jays' team from Toronto, a bunch of dogs.

I mean, the way they're built literally, physically. Watching them play baseball, it's like, I love this team. Them going against Monday Night Football, especially with the Chief's playing. I'm like, whoa, why are we doing that? Thank God they were happening last night. I mean, that quickly became a World Series night for me on the TV,

which I would never like to admit publicly in this. Then what I found out when I woke up this morning, two hours after the game ended is when I woke up, this thing was an instant classic, a record breaker tie. Last night was historic in the World Series. What took place? Yeah, without a doubt. And, you know, it's funny you mentioned that

because I think that was actually the MLB's plan was, hey, all these people who are going to want to watch Monday night football, We're going to go ahead and just play two games, not to bury the lead there, but if you did watch the entirety of Monday night football, you could have still switched over to Dodgers Blue Jays and watched an entire nine-inning baseball game. It was absolutely unbelievable. Starting in the third inning, you mentioned him.

Shohay is, you just can't pitch to this guy. Max Scherzer, one of the best big game pitchers of all time, and Shohay takes him yard to give the Dodgers a two-nothing lead. I mean, early on is just, okay, we get it. This is going to be kind of wacky. And then you mentioned it. The guys, the way they're built in Toronto, the wobble body, Alejandro Kirk. He just, I mean, it looks like I was going to be a lazy pop fly, boom, home run to straightaway center.

Blue Jays take a... I love him, by the, he might be my favorite baseball player. Outside of Paul Skeen's and Shohei Otani, that guy might be my favorite baseball player. So also a little tidbit on him. He got signed initially to the Blue Jays for $15,000. They saw him in Mexico at some, like, open workout, 5-8 guy catcher, obviously built the way. way he was. He accepted like a $15,000 signing bonus, and that's what got him

into the major. Okay, so I love him even more. Got it. Okay, that makes sense. Exactly. So he's unbelievable. Good eye by me. I feel like just eye in him. I could see this guy's got a good story. I think I like him. Didn't even know it was like a, hey, found out of nowhere five foot eight. There's no way he's supposed to be in the MLB. He's no way he's supposed to be hitting bombs in a World Series. That guy's a dog. Exactly. He's unbelievable. And fast forward to the bottom of the fifth inning, Freddie Freeman, after

Shohay Otane doubles. Freddie Freeman, this guy is about as clutch as they come. He rips one down the line and Shohay gets in there to not the game up at 4-4. I mean, it was just like this all night, just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Then we go to the top

of the seventh, Boba Chet, who is a guy who has been hurt. He's one of their best players. He gets in and rips one down the line. Vladdy chugging along and he's had a couple unbelievable slides. Boom. Picture perfect beat the tag home. I don't remember if they have the replay on here.

But he basically, he slides in and kind of like alters his body because he can tell that the tag is going to be coming in. It was absolutely unbelievable. So here we are. You know, I mean, you're thinking at this point, okay, this one might be over. Blue Jay's got all the momentum. Yeah, exactly. Five, four, once again,

why are they pitching this guy? Shohei, each one right down the middle. Oppo shot pretty much, still the, you know, dead center. 5-5 ties the game up. And then we go to the top. of the ninth. Okay, this is a very in a game of a lot of homers

unsung moment here. This is why defense really matters in baseball. Dalton Varsho rips one down the line. Freddie Freeman, who's very reliable, goes off his glove. But Tommy Edmund has the heady play, corrals the ball, and then boom! He gets Isaiah Kiner Folefa at third base to, I mean, that's huge.

You know, they say a lot of times in baseball, you can't make the second or the third out at third base because they got the big bats coming up and boom, that's a runner that's no longer in scoring position. And then, so we kind of stayed pat for a little bit. We go all the way.

14, that thing says. Exactly. Bottom of the 14th inning. Place still packed. Place still packed. Will Smith and everyone in Dodger Stadium thought they had it. He kind of pimps it a little bit. A couple features. I mean, it doesn't get much closer than that.

So that's the 14th inning. Okay. Let's fast forward to the top of the 18th inning. What time is this Eastern? Eastern, this was probably about 2.30 to 35. Okay, so it's 1130. 1735 Pacific time. Correct.

We got to think about because this actually ends up paying off for him because if this is Eastern time playing you're talking early morning, maybe not as many people want to stay in. Yeah, exactly,

but still packed in the top of the 18th and then another very unsung guy for the Dodgers, Will Klein, strikes out Tyler Heidman. At this point, like, Tyler Heidman was the last guy on the bench for the Blue Jays. He was the last player who could play in the game, but because it goes on so long,

that was his third at bat, he strikes out, Again, just in a group of a lot of clutch guys, Freddie Freeman in the bottom of the 18th, full count. He goes yard, walk off Homer to center. The Blue Jays just, boy, hard to stomach that one. Dodgers wins 6'5. They take a 2-1 series lead and they play again tonight at 8 p.m. Not just playing tonight.

Okay, obviously history there. And Freddie Freeman's, is this his last year? No. Kurt Shaw's last year. Correct. He pitched last night as well. He got a big out in extra innings. Okay.

So Freddie Freeman, we met him at the All-Story. He's so cool. He is very cool. Obviously, bottom of the 18th, hitting a dinger, center field has to feel immaculate. They got to turn around now. They got a game tonight. Correct. And Shohei with Tony's pitching.

Last night, Shohei was on base. How many times? Nine times. So in his first four at bats through the, what, seventh inning, he was four for four with four extra base hits, including two homers. From that point on, the entire second game they played, he got intentionally walked four times, and then his fifth at bat very late. It wasn't an intentional walk, but they just pitched around him. Didn't give him any competitors. So, like, they decided after the first game

they played, we're not pitching to this guy again. And it was the right move because every time they pitched to him, he killed him. Yeah, so Shohei gets on base nine times last night. Correct. Okay, hits a couple dingers, ties it up, has a let's go, which is reminiscent in that, that's something in baseball. Oh, Kurt, Kurt Gibson, yeah. You got doing this thing there. For the Dodgers. Yeah, Shohei has a little bit of one of those things while he's going a second base whenever he ties it up 5-5 at the end of this whole thing. But whenever you think about him getting on base nine times, and then tonight, he's starting pitcher?

I mean, this guy's special. This guy is absolutely outrageous. This is the greatest baseball player of all time? Yeah, bar none. Not even remotely close. Like, right, people are going to say, well, if he does it for 10 years, we'll consider it. He's won, what, three MVPs in a row. He's won a World Series.

Like, no, I don't even think, I really don't think there's an argument to be made anymore, and that's hard for me to say, because I'm. a big-time Yankees fan, and I think Aaron Judge is, you know, one of the best hitters on the planet. It's not even close how much better this guy is than everybody else. Here's some hembo stats on Shohei Otani, who's not only growing the game obviously here, but internationally in a huge

way. I can't even imagine what the Japan numbers are going to be for that particular game, especially with sleep cycles. There's two baseball games back-to-back. They could have caught it in any time over there. He's first in MLB history to reach base nine times in a post-season game. First in MLB history with three multi-home-ring games in a single postseason.

Intentionally walked to 9th, 11th, 13th, and 15th, four pitch in 17th. Shohei has reached base in 10 straight plate appearances. Single to end, Bob. Mamel B record for consecutive PA. Yeah, plate appearances. Reaching in a single world series. So, everything's back.

Oh, yeah, he's starting pitcher tonight for the Los Angeles Dodgers. And when you think about his pitching, I did a deep dive. Yeah, you were there with me. I was with you, baby. I took a deep dive in this thing. You know, he can move that thing in all the directions.

He can take that ball all. bit north there's got a four seamer there okay that rise is about 18 inch he can take that thing sour curveball guess what that goes about 18 inches you do some math that's 36 inches vertical movement okay that's outrageous is it not and then let's talk about the horizontal the east west if you will he's got a sinker and a splitter that go more than 30 inches in different uh different directions he's 30 by 36 this guy in the amount of movement this is it just some ass pitcher this guy's a guy he's got a splitter he's got a sinker he's got a sweeper he's got a fastball i mean he's got all the pitches out there, and he's also getting on base nine different times. So today, I mean, just 24-hour

period here for Shohei, could be what? One of the most special in the history of baseball, I assume, is how this will be talked about? Yeah, I mean, he's just stacking him up at this point after his last, you know, last outing as a pitcher, striking out 10 guys in six innings and hitting three homers. I mean, it just, it's ridiculous. And going into tonight's game, like the big thing now, too, is both teams used everybody in the bullpen. Every guy that was available. had to pitch last night. You have some guys who are typically used to throwing maybe one inning and, you know, like a handful of pitches. Like they had guys who had to throw 40 pitches last night just because they, by out of necessity, if Shohei has his best stuff, that

eliminates the need for them to go to the bullpen. Like you're just looking at the starters. And while I've kind of always said he's unbelievable, his hitting, though, is far superior to his pitching. When he's on, he's still one of the best guys in baseball. So if he can give them six innings and eliminate, you know, the bullpen, like, it is just such a massive advantage. Like, it'll be tough, but for the Blue Jays losing that game last night, it might just be like, how much do you have left? Because it's just a kitchen sink game tonight. Like, you just have to get lucky and throw everything and hope that you get the show hey early. Yeah, so best baseball player ever, is there an argument to be made that he's just the best athlete of all time across all sports?

I mean, that's going to become a conversation, is it not? How long can he do this? I guess everybody has expected him not to be able to do this for that long. Is he going to be able to do this for the foreseeable future? Because I think my research told me, too, that maybe, you know, when he get to the Dodgers the way they kind of develop pitch. He might just be only getting better and better as a pitcher,

just like as people kind of get older, especially in the L.A. Dodgers kind of system. And then I haven't talked about this. He's able to do things than a lot of other people are able to do. He throws a sinker out of a high slot. So optically for the hitter, I mean, that's just a completely different ball game. He's doing things people haven't seen before. So greatest athlete of all time is certainly a fascinating question.

Like, how long does he? have to do it for, I think, is all anybody we use for the judge. Like, that is all the argument. In my eyes, I love the guy. Let's just put him, literally. It's hard to. I'm a rush more of everything immediately. But as soon as I heard that this guy could throw the ball 100 miles an hour accurately, and

100 miles an hour off the bat, was that like three years ago when he was with the angels or whatever, it's like this guy's great baseball player of all time. Baseball people at the time, rightfully so saying, let's hold the horses here. Now he's proven a BA. When you think about this type of competitor, this type of athlete, what is it? You think it's his meant, obviously he's physically gifted like hell, but his mentality

is just one of those different ones that the, the greats have? Oh, I don't think there's any doubt, but you can't throw in 50 stolen bases. Yeah, oh yeah. Which is crazy. Damn. For a pitcher, a hitter and 50 stolen bases? I mean, that's the one that just puts him over the top for me. What do you think his mentality is, though? Do you think he's been locked in like this since he was a kid? Is he just boring his way? Everything I hear about him, he is just literally ultra-focused. Takes care of his body like nobody else can do all these things and just every single day taking care of himself and getting ready to go. So, Peyton and Tom, obviously, are at a different level.

Do you think these guys are born this way? Women, too, as well. Serena, obviously. I don't want to take anything away from any of the greatest female athletes of all time. But I think they're born that way. Don't you think? When I saw Peyton, I was like, this guy's an alien. Like, his mentality is an alien.

Like, I consider myself a rather competitive person. I think I have a good work ethic. I think I'm able to lock in. Then you see, like, an actual robot happened next year. You're like, oh, my God, there's levels to this entire thing. And then Tom Brady, obviously, they talk about that as the same. Michael Jordan, Kobe, you talk about these guys. that Wayne Gretzky, I think, is even another. Everybody at the top is, like, born that way.

Do you think that can be coached, or you think it's just like a special trait that only some people have? I think they have the trait. There has to be some really good hands put on them somewhere along the line to get him in the right direction. You know, all those Tom, Peyton, those guys had great college quarterback coaches and coaches. I think Shohei and everybody else, the Dodgers pitching system we talked about, he's just going to get better. Better and better. He's only going to get better, I think. That is crazy to think about. And his stroke isn't going anywhere.

That stroke is unbelievable. That's not going anywhere. And then to be that tall and that fast. Exactly. And that would be the biggest thing in terms of like how long can he do this is, you know, the only times he's really had any, like, injury issues. Yeah, it looked like to be some sort of, you know, attendant that the Dodgers had that, you know, sometimes you get in the wrong spot there

and you've got to scramble. So is that person delivering beers there on the field? A concession guy, definitely. Can we go back to that box? shouldn't be out there. I just assumed it was like, I don't know who the hell that is. Got a chair down there.

So, yeah, the ball boy jumped over into the stands. Yeah, I wonder if that's just like a security attendant to make sure people aren't like getting on the field and everything. Yeah, I mean, he should know and show that he's off the bat, though. There's a chance that thing's coming right out. He's probably thinking he's going yard. I'm going to just taking it away.

Yeah, and grabbing that chair too, full sprint and staying away from the ball. Pretty impressive. If that hits him. in this game that goes 18 innings or whatever there'd be so many oh they got guys out there on it because imagine a hit some goes different he gets a triple or something or like uh something like maybe guy falls on ball oh my god passes out it's tired falls on top of ball i mean that could have been obviously chaotic shout to that guy getting it figured out but congrats to the dodgers so this is gonna feed the uh they spend more money everybody that's why they're better in everybody narrative

i mean i suppose but like it's when when you're kind of getting single-handedly beat by one guy like show hey is just otherworldly he's amazing and like you know yeah they paid a shitload of money for him but like there are other teams that definitely could have got him we we talked about it a little bit earlier we'll we'll see if they win the world series handedly and again the amount of momentum that swings to them after a game like that it's tough to imagine that the blue jays are just going to have enough left to get back but like if they get one of it like a paul skeins or a school school who people are saying if the dodgers win the world series and then sign one of the best players in baseball instantly like that will be when people are like

Like, all right, we can't do this. I heard Detroit offered scuba. Penny's on the dollar. Yeah, offer them 20 bucks or something, Foxy. I need a confirmed source to tell me this. I don't believe it. I will not believe it until I know it's coming out of jet pass in's mouth because that's absolutely absurd.

And I'll tell you what, senior pizza pizza, little Caesar's owner, Illich would have paid him right away. So I don't like this. His son better get going here. Okay, I like that you're calling out ownership and holding people accountable, even though you don't know if it's true or not. And that's our show's different That's how you got to do it

That is our show's difference in its entirety But you talk about like skeins going over there Or something like that Just buying the best team Which I would like to let people know That is why I was a fan of the Yankees The guy grew up in Pittsburgh It's like they're just buying the best team up there

Is everybody allowed to do that? Yeah well I want so I won't go for the team I would like my happiness In this particular sport to reside upon the people That are trying to spend more money than everybody else to win baseball people tell me I'm a bullshit fan.

I agree. Never played. This is just me watching playoffs. The deferment thing is what really bothers people. Oh, I'm paying them up 15 years later. Yeah, Shohay's salary this year is with $1.2 million because they're giving him $400 million in 10 years. So salary cap gymnastics

is coming over to MLB. You were about to say something? I was just say, just in terms of spending the money, the Dodgers are in second with $321 million this year for the payroll. The Blue Jays are in fifth with $239 million for their payroll this year. Both teams spent and they made it. Who's number one?

The New York Mets. They didn't make the playoffs. They didn't. So that would be the argument the Dodgers would say. Correct. And this is just like the Philadelphia Eagles saying, if Tush Push show easy on everybody do it. That is what the Dodgers will say about the New York Mets.

And we'll talk about the Tush Push in a matter of moments. You know, the Dimes Dive was really something that kind of capitated the entire NFL. This guy, you know, he was in New York, didn't pan out. Everybody threw a lot of shots. He goes to Minnesota. He's a free agent. Minnesota wants to keep them there. The Colts obviously need to.

quarterback. He'll come into a quarterback competition. How's everybody feel about it? No, no, we don't want it. He's going to win the quarterback competition pretty handily. How does everybody feel about it? Oh, we still don't know. It ain't a full change. Then he goes in, what? Best team of football. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts, Danny Dimes. What's up, Bruce? How are we doing? Hey, congrats on another win. Okay, you didn't do shit, but congrats on another win. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

I know it's middle of season. We got a lot of football left. I know that's what you're going to say. but at this moment with where you're sitting and how you guys have performed. Could you have imagined this whenever you got here in the off season, the team being this good? I think when I sat down with you for dinner with Mr. Berg, you said, hey, we got a lot of good guys.

You liked the roster immediately. Did you see this potentially being the case? And why has it worked out so good, do you think, at this point? I mean, it's tough to say, you know, that we were, you know, exactly how it's going to work out. I think people say, you know, we think we're good, but no one, you never really know until you get out there and start playing.

But, you know, I did, I mean, I honestly did in the spring. You look around, you're like, wow, he's really good, and he's really good, and the offense line's really good, and coaches are good. You're like, you know, we should be pretty good. And, you know, we've played well, and things have gone well, but you never really know, I guess, until you get on the field. I appreciate you having my jersey in your bedroom there. It's very cool, with you.

It's very, very nice of you putting me up there. to the boss man, it's an honor. We're very thankful you're in Indianapolis Colt. We're also very thankful that Jonathan Taylor is an Indianapolis Colt. Can you tell me about him in the offensive line and what this offense is doing right now? Because obviously we've seen Jonathan Taylor have massive success

in the past, but right now he's ready to break history it seems like. What's happening in that area of your offense and why do you think it's all taking place? Yeah, I mean, I think the guys up front, for one, you know, are doing an incredible job in the run game, in the past game too, but in the

in the run game opening up holes and then I don't I mean he hits it he goes and and uh the three or four yard runs or seven or eight yard runs and then um you know he's got the he's got the the uh the home run in him too that 80 yard or the other day was incredible I don't know how he stayed in bounds on the sideline uh hit it and and rolled but um yeah I mean he he's uh playing unbelievable right now I know everybody you know if you watch the game it's uh it's pretty hard to miss. He's playing unbelievable right now. Yeah, you know, being there in person, it's a lot more fun

than it has been in the past. I've told you that a couple different times. Like, man, I am thankful to be a season ticket holder this year. It has been a blast in the stadium. One of my favorite things is, you know, what they decided to do during the breaks up on the Jumbotron. Celebrity lookalike happened this past weekend, and I'll tell you what, I thought you handled the moment

greatly. Indiana Jones, and the police does this noise, please? Okay. You saw it. Okay. I saw you fighting back a little blush as I was watching in real life. And then it seemed like you looked at yourself, your thoughts, you're up, stay focused. Stay locked. This is very, it's like second quarter, I think. This is still very much in the middle of the game. How was this moment? Did you see yourself? And what was your immediate reaction? Like, oh, shit, look busy. Is that, is that, did I nail it? Pretty much, yeah.

I mean, I saw it. I tried to play it off like I didn't see it, but I saw it. And, you know, that's always the moment, like, you know, the camera's on you. Everybody's looking at you. Act like you're, act like you're doing something you'd be doing if you didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm working out. I'm working out. Yeah, quarterback.

Let me warm up my arm. Yeah, what else? How has it been, though, dude? You're a hero here. You are a hero here. I texted you that the, maybe two weeks ago. Like, hey, Daniel Jones. could be governor of Indiana right now, could be mayor of the city, could literally be anything.

How is it being like, you know, beloved by your fan, like this place loves you? Can you feel that? How has it been experiencing that? And do you ever talk about it with the team about how much the city has rallied and the state has rallied around the squad? Yeah, I mean, you can definitely sense it. I think just how, you know, how energetic the city is for it and the support we have here has been, it's been a lot of fun. And, you know, I really enjoyed being here and being, you know, with this team. But, yeah, like you said, the city.

I think the people here are awesome. You know, we've talked about it. It's a sports town. And people here love the Colts, love the Pacers, love the fever, love sports. So it's been fun to feel that for sure. Yeah, well, we're lucky you're here, brother. We're enjoying the hell out of the run, honestly. And that game against the Titans, I don't know if you know this, Colts favored by 14 and a half or whatever.

Colts fans scared to death. It's like, oh, no. Here we go. Because we have like, you know, PTSD of times where like, okay, the team isn't like all the way ready to go. Very good team, but not like completely locked in. It's been awesome to watch you guys continue to grow through this entire journey. BA has a question for you, Danny. Yeah, Dan, I saw you up close in person on your first win down in Tampa.

And now what flip, what switch to switch for you? Is it coaching system, offensive line because you are playing the best football I've ever seen you play? Appreciate it. I mean, I think it's all those things. I think, you know, football, you know, people want to make it about one guy or one thing or one play. But I think the reality is it's everything kind of working together and everybody, everybody doing what they're supposed to. It's a boring, you know, kind of cliche take. But I honestly think that's how it works. And offensive lines played incredible. I think the game planning and the scheme we have weekend and week out. you know, is really, really good. I mean, you know, guys are open, receivers getting open, and then Jonathan Taylor's doing an incredible job. So, I mean, I think just everything's kind of working together, and we know we've still got stuff to clean up.

But I think that's when, you know, that's when guys are at their best is when everyone's kind of doing their job. Your wide receivers are special, too. It's like, you know, they're talking about with the Packers, and I think they're talking about it with the bills. It's like, well, who's the number one? There needs to be a number one.

it's like, we got dudes all over the place. Like, you got dudes all over. And none of them seemingly diva, pre-Madonna, asking, expecting, just everybody goes for it. Like, this catch is one of the nastiest catches of all time. Incredible catch. Pass interference, for sure. Did you know he caught it?

You thought it was just P.I. Or did you know he caught it? But I didn't see the ball come up. Like, usually you see the ball on the ground. And I was like, that ball didn't hit the ground. Did he catch that ball? Like, I don't think people realize how hard of a catch that was. Like, he's fighting off the defender.

He pins it with one hand and the defender's arm in there. I mean, that's an incredible, incredible catch. Yeah, definitely pass interference. I mean, no questions asked. Everybody in there just thought, P.I., okay, we got first down at the one. I think people legitimately were like, all right, that plays over. Is Pittman okay? That's good.

And then there's like a delayed roar, and he just stands up with the ball. It's like, what? How the hell did you do that? And Pittman makes those plays all the time. Josh Don's and you getting on the same page. Obviously, Alec Pierce, I've learned of him even more over the last couple weeks, heard great things coming out of the Halloween party about Alec Pierce so I am all bored

Alec Pierce being an absolute dog for the squad as well and then you guys have a tight end okay and I don't know where this Sasquatch you know came from in this entirety but what an animal go ahead Ty yeah Danny I think going back to like the draft process and then the draft especially like we were all shocked that Tyler Warren fell to where he did just falling right into you guys' laps at what point did you know like oh wow like this this guy's different

he might be special and obviously you know pat talked about how many weapons you have and everything's working but how nice is it having a safety valve like this guy we can just dump it down to him and he's liable to you know go 40 yards for a touchdown or pick up a third uh you know a long conversion on third down like how impressed have you been with tyler warren yeah i've been extremely impressed with him i think when he got here in the spring i mean you could sense just like his saviness and and feel for for getting open and just kind of being an instinctive football player but then, you know, getting on the field and playing with him and live action, you know, a lot of these plays that I think he makes just look easy where he's, he knows where everybody

is, he makes a tough catch, he, you know, makes a cut and gets an extra seven or eight yards. Like, I mean, he's just, like, does, he does the, like, instinctive thing that you would hope someone does really naturally, I feel like, and, I don't know, he's just, he's tough as, you know, tough as shit he's a real real good football player yes his head up we think he's potentially the densest and the thickest that there's ever been made because we saw him against notre dame hit his head off the ground right in front of us he he put a dent in the ground and it was frozen his head the boom and he just hopped right back we thought he was dead i still get headaches from it yeah actually i just got a headache thinking about it i mean his

head we saw it in person so it was like oh my god and it was frozen and he just hop right back up, toss the ball. I think you got a carry on the next play. Yeah, he lined up under, I think he did a dive. I think he did a tush push immediately afterwards just got punched in the head. The guy's an absolute animal. You got a lot of them out there. Now, how can you manage an offense that has all these different weapons?

How can you create space for everybody to be able to get the rock? How can you just dominate seemingly everybody? Well, there's a coach that we got that was brought in to be the head coach because he was an offensive guru. Seems like you and him have hit it off well. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Mr. Jones. you were talking about the game plan

and the scheme earlier. I'm trying to be respectful. Okay. And I wanted to ask about how your relationship with Shane Steichen has been since you came over to the Colts and then how it is now and how more collaborative and how much more insight you have into the game plan each week. And I noticed you guys haven't had a buy yet. So if you wanted

to sit out this upcoming weekend, just get like an early little rest, that's something you can think about doing as well. No, no, this is a big one. This is a big one this week. Yeah, don't listen to him. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to him. That's a Steelerset. That's Mr. Jones, by the way, have a little respect.

Mr. Jones and me. Go ahead, Danny, sorry, brother. Good track. Thank you. Yeah, it's been fun working with Shane. You know, I think, you know, in the off season and kind of through training camp, you're not doing as much game planning. You're just kind of calling plays and, you know, trying to execute putting in the offense

for the most part. But once we've gotten into the season and kind of as the weeks have gone, you know, I think just the process throughout the week has been really good for me and the time, you know, we spend meeting, watching tape, kind of hearing from him. You know, he's real detailed on how he expects to call the game, how he wants me to kind of play the game, certain situations, where we are on the field, down in distance, kind of what's been happening. And, you know, he's very, very detailed, has all that, you know, stuff planned out and kind of in his head and that stuff he communicates with me. And I think just, you know,

That helps me, you know, especially to get to like Friday and Saturday and you're watching, you know, the last little bit of tape and you're reminding the receivers certain little things here and there. I think that communication has been has been really helpful for me. Tell me about what he's saying to you or calling to you through the headset for every play because we hear him miced up. And is he saying to you the same thing he's saying mic, oh, look at this, this is going to be a touchdown. Okay, we're going to run. Okay, look, we've seen him miced up. Every play, I don't know if you know how confident he is in every single play you guys run. Every single one.

Oh, look at this. Look at this. This is going to be a touch. Look at this. This is going to be a touch. We're about score this thing. Watch this thing. Yep.

Yep. Touchdown. Yep. Is that what he's calling? He doesn't give me that in the headset as much. But he will like, when we're talking about something on the sideline, it'll be like, all right, I'm going to call this one. And then when we get the ball in 20, and then we'll probably call this one.

We'll probably score there. But if we don't score, like, we'll call this play. And then, and then we'll definitely score. so it's all very very positive every play is going to be 15 20 yarder and then the next one's that's awesome that's awesome is that how you think is that how you have thought about the game before like has this been a nice change of pace almost with how he kind of talks about it to you do you feel like you two kind of gel well when it comes to that perspective yeah i mean i honestly i haven't uh i probably haven't had that positive of mindset myself but um it's helpful i mean when

when you have that much confidence and that much optimism, belief, I think that that helps me. It helps the whole team, I think, and everybody can sense that. All right, we're going to do this. Probably pick up 1520 here. It might score, honestly. I don't even know if you need this next play. And then we'll do this.

I love that. That's what I'm talking about. It was always there. It was always there. He always dressed so cool on the sideline. He always looks so cool on the sideline. Every time I talk to him, it seemed great. But then it just wasn't going as well.

Gardner Minchew, we always make the playoffs. Oh, we don't make the playoffs. It's like he's been through it too a lot. So for him to be as positive as he is, I think he's a real testament of his mental resilience and we're lucky to have you both. And nope, not even to say it. We want you to sign a 10-year contract here.

I'm not going to do any public negotiating on behalf of the big three. Okay, the big three certainly understand that. But we are very lucky to have you both in our city. You need to know that. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, some good negotiating for your dimes will be the thousands of kids dressing up as you on Halloween on Friday across Indiana.

But what about the relationship with the O line? Have you been taking them to dinners? Has J.T. been helping him out a little bit? And what is Quentin Nelson like as a leader? Because it feels as though all of us have kind of seen a different Quentin Nelson that we have grown accustomed to with the departure of Ryan Kelly and Will Fries. He seems to be taking more of a vocal role this year. Yeah, he's a stud for sure.

I haven't taken him to dinner yet. We do a little Monday night football. Last night we had the Halloween party, but we got... Oh, really? What was attendance? What was attendance? What was attendance? Percentage.

Pretty strong. I don't know. I wouldn't, I wouldn't marking everybody. It's pretty strong, though. I'd say pretty much everybody was there. I like that. These are all good things. Yeah.

You guys are drinking water at these things, obviously, a lot of water, maybe some... Some Gatorades and... Okay, so we did a little mixed drinks and beers, okay? I like that. That's what I just heard there. We got water's hand and Gatorades. Got it. This is good.

This is good for team. B.A., this is good. Blue Gatorade and Vodka's perfect. Okay. Okay. Go ahead back to you, I'm sorry about it. Talk about the O-L-L-L-Line. Quentin's a stud, and, yeah, the leadership he has in that room

and how they all kind of work together, you know, I think that goes a long way. I mean, Quentin, all those guys have an extremely high standard for themselves in the group. And Quentin will let, you know, Quentin will let you know if it's not, you know, if it's not good enough or if someone's not, you know, doing the right thing. He's pretty quick to let someone know and hold everybody accountable. And he holds himself accountable first. And I think that that goes a long way with the O-Line. It goes a long way with the whole team, I think.

So, yeah, it means a lot. You guys got a special group, man. It's been fun to watch you guys. Let's talk about the defense. Obviously, we have to because Lou Anna-Rue, I mean, you didn't know what it was like before Lou got there. You didn't know what it was like before Cam Bonnams got there who was seemingly beloved. by everybody. Moody should be back here soon after the pregame. Hey, let's fucking watch what we're doing pregame. Okay, I don't know. You guys, we need to get better at that going

forward. But can you tell me about the defenses side of the ball and the vibes and energy over there? Because obviously, if we want to go where we want to go, defense is going to have to win games. And it feels like we have the guys to do it. Do you agree with that? For sure, yeah. Yeah, I think they've been playing at a really high level. You know, Lou does a great job. He's a smart guy, smart coach, the scheme that they run, and week in and week out, the game plan stuff they have is good. We see it a little bit in practice. We do a period against the defense Thursdays, and there's always some funky stuff in there. So, yeah, he does a really good job. Those guys are playing well, pass rush, the guys in the back end are all playing

well. And I think, yeah, we feed off that energy on offense, seeing those guys make stops, make big plays, sacks, turnovers. That's been huge for us. Why don't you let Rigoberto punt full field a couple of times? Let the guy build his average. Every time he goes out there, he hits a perfect ball. Rigo's batting 1,000 right now. He actually is, Danny.

Is he? Yes. Is that a stat? That's an official stat. I'll give it out because I'm actually watching them. Because I've been on a couple offenses that were very successful, you know? So you're getting a fifth of the amount of punts of everybody else. But what that means is, like, well, you don't really have to do.

much it's like of course of course I don't but every punt means if I shank one our average is screwed for what two months with the way this offense is basically going so like every punt matters for Rigo and he hits he's been bat a thousand I think it's yeah he has been it's amazing I love Rigo Berto love Badgeley too love him stepping in obviously didn't enjoy the the injury that took place to our guy Spencer he'll be back stronger than ever and we see your hat you know and it feels like it's been a big part of the story coach B.A been with Colts multiple times. This has a question for you.

Yeah, I think Jim Ursae Spirit has got to have a big part of that locker room. And I see Shane does it. You do it. The picture behind you. Let him carry you guys all the way because he will. Hell yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Absolutely. I think, you know, I didn't know Mr. Ursay, but just from everyone around here and the relationships he had with a lot of these, a lot of players and obviously all the staff, I think you get a sense for. how strong his, you know, his spirit and memory still is here. So, yeah, no doubt. We love the guitar.

Grove brings the guitar in, gets the pick, you know, for the guitar. Pittman brought it in, obviously, this week gets the tip, okay? Then gets the touchdown. It's like, okay, let's get our, let's get this, let's keep this guitar around. Let's maybe five people walk in with this guitar. We appreciate you, man. Enjoy the rest of the season. Thank you for taking time out of your life here.

Awesome, appreciate y'all having me. Yeah, stay healthy, brother. Yeah, what's today look like? What's today look like? What's today look like? We all watch film. Remember, we haven't done shit yet, right? We haven't done anything.

We haven't done, yeah, we're about to get back in the film room. We've got to see what these Steelers look like. I'll tell you. You're going to like what you see. Oh, no. Don't say that to him. No, I know, I know. But he might.

Good does this. Tomlin just had his press cover and said they're not changing the damn thing. We knew that, though. Yes, we did. Yeah, we do that. That's, hey, that's Coach Faluner. Steelers football. Remember, he has to get his guys back, too. What do you mean? His defense coordinator. Yeah. He's got to get his guys back. Like, he has to publicly. That's something you have to do, legitimately. He's having cities back, okay?

Well, that's in his mind when he sits down. I would assume I've not been in there. He knows. Boy, this guy sucks right now at his job. But publicly, he's got to go work with this guy. He can't just bury him publicly. He doesn't have to. Well, how much work is he doing then? Because if he's doing a lot of work, then, Are we aiming our sights at the wrong guy? That's where I get confused. Oh, you think there's a fall guy here, Austin, D.C., you knock in the proper attack on Coach Tomlin. You know it in there.

Coach at press conference, whenever a coordinator is potentially on the hot seat with the fans, how do you address that? Do you go up there knowing, like, hey, if I say anything here, it's potentially going to spark a fire? Is that a thought that you have going in there? No, I think you just tell the truth. And I hired the guy. He's my guy. It's my job to fix him. All right?

It's not his fault. It's my fault. So as a head coach, you reflect it all back to yourself. And this player didn't have a great game, my job coaching better. This coach didn't have a good game, my job to coaching better. Now, on that note, sometimes when you say that, it does sound like you're pandering a bit, you know, because like a player will make a full fail. And then the coach would be like, that's on me.

I didn't coach him upright. It's like, hey, hero, don't need you saying that. Hey, Tom McMahon, Tom McMahon tried to go to bat for me one time on something. He was like, that's on me. I didn't have him prepared for that. I'm like, hey, Tom, shut up, okay? You know who that was on. I shanked that shit out of balance.

That was on me. He goes, yeah, but they need to know that I could have made you better or whatever. I'm like, no, you've did everything. There's 100% on me. I don't like your line to these people or whatever. But it's like taking up for your people is a big part of leading. Yes. Like that is a huge part of leading.

And I think Coach Tomlin is like, what, one of the most loyal people. Oh yeah, for sure. In the history of the NFL. So like, not that that's a great thing, too. Remember, he kept Canada around for a long time whenever everybody was looking for it. But he did move on from at Canada. the first time in the middle of the season, the Pittsburgh Steelers have ever fired a coordinator or whatever

in the history of the Steelers. I think there was a time where a coach or something. The owner. The owner was coached and he fired himself and that was before they sold the team. Yeah, so it was a long time ago. So he has had to make moves before, but I think he does have to kind of represent for his guys out there publicly.

Or he could take the Brian Kelly approach and, you know, basically just make a bunch of excuses, throw it on everyone else's plate, motherfucker these guys on the sidelines say, hey, you just lost your fucking job. do that. I mean, now, did that work out for him? Not especially, but he just exactly.

And he's walking away with a check for $54 million. So is it that bad? Isn't that bad? I don't know if Coach Tomlin's got the same deal as Brian Kelly's got. Yeah, he might not. I don't know how all those deals work. Probably more. But boy, that Brian Kelly situation is fascinating. It's just getting worse and worse.

What, down there? Yeah, I mean, you know, you take it with a grain of salt, but now just like all the stories come out. We're like, yeah, like what you see is true this guy's a massive piece of shit is what people are saying exactly that's what people are saying and obviously everybody's going to have those stories he is due 54 million over the next six years let's talk about these college coaches getting fired let's talk about coaches getting fired in general coaches know it's coming like brian kelly knew that was coming james franklin do you think he knew that was coming without loud it seemed like james franklin did not know that it was it was coming even though it was

very very loud on the outside because of how much success and winning and everything that that program has done under him and with how long he was there. Brian Kelly, obviously you lose the Texas A&M in the fashion that you lose to Texas A&M. Texas A&M might win a national championship. Texas A&M is a very, very, very, very good football team. They blow out of the shoot. Do you think Brian Kelly knows that it's a possibility?

You think these guys know it's a possibility? I don't think those guys do. I think they think I'm invincible and I'll write this ship. I know how to do this. And there's so much money involved in college football now. It's like the boosters. No, you're not because you're not running this shit anymore. Do you think it's an unflappable confidence that coaches have to have?

Oh, you have to. Yeah, you got to, do you have to walk in their office knowing I'm the best there is? That'd be crazy if Brian Kelly just walked in there that next day. How are we doing? Pretty good. Tough game. We'll get back. We'll get it back.

Texas A&M. Go football team. Hey, why don't you come in here real quick? Sure, what are we doing? We have a little sit down. You're fired. You guys owe me like $54 million. Yeah, we're going to pay you.

Check place. Holy shit. All right. Sounds good. He's walked out, got his little wagon. Do you see the car? Oh, yeah.

I love that they had people camped out outside. Actually, I hate that they had people camped out outside the parking lot. I'd like to let that be known. There are some people that camp out some of the places that I end up at. It scares the shit out of me, especially in the current environment that we are in. Not great, but I guess down there at LSU, this is what you kind of expect when you sign up. Them having him, he was in the building six minutes, this guy. Out of there.

Yeah. million dollars. Loses Texas A&M gone the next day. I do wonder if he woke up in a morning thinking it was possible. And it's like Napier, I think he probably had to. He did. He did for sure. He won, too.

I don't think James Trayette. They win. And then it was almost like it was being talked about. And I don't want to say anything out of line because Napier has been good to us and to our show and to game day seemingly in a very difficult spot down there. Not saying Florida is a tough spot, but him for whatever reason maybe didn't hit on the right guys. And they started losing. And their schedule every single year was like, you're playing every guy.

good thing that has ever played. But it felt like a lot of people around college football on like Tuesday, Wednesday before they played that game were like, he's getting fired on Sunday. It's like, what if they beat Mississippi? No, yeah. It's just getting fired. It's all happened on Sunday. It's like, well, what is that?

Is that rounding up all the boosters to pay the payout? You think that's what it is? They had to get everybody on board. Like, no matter what happens, he's getting fired. So that decision had to be made like two weeks beforehand. And then it's like, okay, now they're leading up to one particular day for the first. College football is crazy. I know you're advising right now.

It is a wild... Something tells me that decision was probably made after the USF loss and then they were probably just getting stuff in order. Had to get everything in order. I think every name on there

probably should have known that it was coming except for those top two. I don't think they thought it was coming when it was coming. Dundee, you don't think middle of season, there's no way he thought he was coming.

20 years. Norvel seemed blindsided. Jay? Yeah. Yeah, he did. Jay Norvelle did not know that was coming. Honestly, upper Colorado State. Been her a long time.

Him and Coach Prime obviously had their words, but that was good for the rivalry. Trent Dofer, I know he didn't think he was going to be. He's a pioneer. That was his decision. He's invented things. It was here. That was going to be his decision.

And Trent Bray, I mean, that guy can coach. And then you go to Brent Pride, Virginia Tech didn't really give him a chance. No, they didn't. Old Dominion. Yeah. 24-0-0-5 or 30, whatever. That was over.

I love Brent. Hell of a guy, hell of a football coach, but it just did work out. Yeah, you got to win. this is a, we need wins, which goes back to the NIL era where every team can get good in the offseason, which leads your boosters to think you're going to be good. And then whenever it's not good, it's like, well, what did I give my money to? Oh, well, I'm not giving me money. Yeah, right.

I'm not doing that again. Well, we need your money. Well, I'm not. I'm not doing that. Same guy. Is that who I'm giving? Yeah, he's a good coach. I just gave $5 million a one down to drain.

I might as well just like that on fire and maybe piss on it at my house. Why would I give it back to you guys? oh because we need it for the good other thing well I'm not giving that guy we'll fire all right I'll double if you do that then all of a sudden guys fired and now it's like well who's next is there enough coaches to be hired next are you going to hate the next guy

and then how long or next how long are we how long is that going to happen I honestly don't know this is kind of the conversation on game day where Kirk's like I don't think these people that give $10 million should have any say anything is how he started it's like Kirk I agree with what you're saying but that is just not

reality how are you going to get $10 million from these people and then just expect them not to say anything or how do you expect them to not threaten to not give more money like there's a lot of power in there whenever you're taking $10 million $5 million checks from people yeah but it's not right it's like we all agree with you Kirby but this is kind of the reality of the business and it is crazy to think like we talk about the NFL firing offense coordinators or coaches with these young quarterbacks it's like think about some of these colleges that are going to be in uh oh yeah they're going to be chasing a dragon, probably for a long, long time.

And then there's going to be other schools that find their fit, like Virginia Tech, because BAs obviously looking for it, they're going to find their fit, and they're going to be able to build a massive, sustainable program, and their donors aren't going to care. They're going to keep doing it. It's like, you're going to see, if you're going to evaluate talent or not, you're going to see, I think, in college over the next 10 years of what it's going to be. That's why, like, Texas's set up is kind of awesome, you know? Like, they have the committee at the top that, you know, the coach goes to, and then it's more

so like, hey, the boosters can bitch at the committee, and then maybe the committee can, you know, transfer that message to the coach kind of properly. I hope so. Let's go to some baseball last night, 18-inning. World Series battle where Shohei Otani, the biggest star in the sport, was on base nine times in one game. And now tonight he'll be the starting pitcher in a World Series game.

We have insane stuff happening. And joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, as the man has been covering baseball on ESPN for 35 years. friend of the program he's on the pregame show which we need to be able to see better and easier ladies and gentlemen car ravi yeah ravi ravi what up baby not me baby not me i don't know it's four a m when we all rolled into the rack one 45 out here to west coast that's not supposed to happen i'll tell you one thing you guys you guys saw some of it i'm sure it was amazing for a 12 innings and then it kind of slowed down and then it ended with another freddie freeman bag we're

We're watching some amazing, amazing things in Major League Baseball the last couple of years. We knew going into this thing, the Dodgers were the most talented team that money has ever bought. But boy, the Blue Jays split the first two games and forced them into 18 innings last night. We got ourselves a really good World Series is what we got that. Yeah, I've been paying attention. I've actually enjoyed the hell out of it. I know baseball people might not love the way the Dodgers have gone about doing what they've done to build this roster. me as kind of like floating sports fan

love whenever you accrue a bunch of stars and they all show up. I love whenever the stars and studs do their jobs because I like whenever teams try to go for it and it works. On the flip side, this Blue Jay story is incredible. Who was the buddy that got paid $15,000? Alejandro Kirk, they're catcher. This guy not supposed to be in baseball games. I know that. I'm watching him on TV. I'm like,

this guy's my favorite baseball player. Then I just learned he got paid $15,000 out of a Mexican league. basically to come into the MLB, 5'8 hitting dongs in the World Series. This is Dream Come True. Now, let's continue that conversation, Dream Come True for MLB for the World Series. Tonight, Shohay, starting for the Dodgers, obviously this man is a spectacle. Obviously, this man is already an icon? Connor broached the question, hey, is this the greatest athlete of all time, let alone

just greatest baseball player of all time? What should we expect from him tonight, obviously, with not much rest after getting on base nine times last night? And what is the expectation for the level of play this evening as a whole, Ravi? I don't think I really know your sport well enough for two games to be played in one night and then a biggest game of the year the next night. Yeah, it's probably a little bit easier to do it since it's baseball instead of, you know, your sport football or basketball.

There's not a lot of physicality going on in this thing. Look, with Otani, I expect greatness. I think he's going to come out and he's going to be great because that's what he does. Otani's in that class now, Pat, in which you would talk about Tiger Woods, you'd talk about Michael Jordan, you'd talk about Tom Brady, you expect him to do things

because he expect himself to do things. I mean, I got a list here of Otani accomplishments that reads like something that you couldn't make up. I mean, it's Shoahy Otani, has reached base safely, 10 straight played appearances, 10 straight. So the final played appearance of game two, and of course, nine times.

Similar to Jordan, similar to the Tiger Woods effect on golf courses. Nobody wants to see a dude walked intentionally four times. Do we need an Otani rule? Should we limit the amount of time somebody is able to be intentionally walked in a game? Maybe it's two, maybe it's three. I mean, it's something to consider in a world in which baseball has made a lot of good rule changes to make the game better. Fans are what this is supposed to be about. I'm telling you, sitting right there and about roll four.

people were screaming because he's being walked. I mean, they want to see the confrontation. But look at the numbers. Yeah, they want to see the show, literally. Hey, they want to see it. Hey, that's what we're here for. Hey, show, hey, we're here for the show. Hey, that's what we got going on.

How would they be able to make that rule? Like, I know Beer League softball, you're a lot like two home runs and then it's an out every time you do that. They'd be able to just act like they were pitching and it just not be an intentional walk. Well, you can't, you just, yeah, I mean, that's what happened to the fifth time. that they instead of intentionally walk them they pitch around non-intentionally walked him

I mean that but instead of putting up four fingers at least give the mirage that we're trying to pitch to the guy the same way they put the number of times you can throw over to first base you know they limited that they have a pitch clock Rob Manfred could sit there with a pen and a paper and say intentional walk limited

to three times per player per game we'd like that now Rob we know Rob obviously you got a chance to chat with them at the All-Star game I think what baseball is doing and trying to evolve and catch up with the times and captivate an audience is wonderful. I think the fact that a sport in a league is old as this is willing to adapt is a beautiful thing.

And also their stars showing up for them is huge. Ty has a question for you, Ravi. Yeah, Ravi, it's kind of along the lines of that. They're not going to change that rule tonight. And I'm kind of thinking, like, the Blue Jays have to intentionally walk him every single time. I understand it's going to piss people off. That's not what anyone wants to see.

But you just can't pitch to this guy. And I understand he's batting lead off. So that kind of put you in a precarious situation when you're putting a guy on right away. But just coming off last night's game, is there any way the Blue Jays can win this game tonight? Like, I mean, listen, I've watched the Blue Jays a lot this year being a Yankees fan. But after how demoralizing that was, like, how do you see this game going tonight, I guess? Yeah, the bounce back question is a real one tie. It's a good question.

And Shane Bieber is going to be on the mound. Shane Bieber's got all sorts of, you know, great history of Cy Young, and he comes over here late in a deal with the Guardians. The question's going to be, and Bieber acknowledges it. I mean, I sat talking with Shane Bieber while we did the LCS on the radio. He's coming off Tommy John surgery. It's usually two years until you feel 100%. He doesn't know how he's going to feel. He literally says every time I go out there, my arm is a mystery. So much of this is going to be in what he can do. The bigger issue when you talk about the game and the series globally is by the end of that game last night, with George Springer being out, with Kirk not being in the lineup anymore, with Barger being out. It felt more of a question of when do the Dodger score because the Blue Jays don't have anybody in this lineup short of that guy on the screen in Vlad Guerrero.

They can really hit a ball over the wall, Dalton Varshal maybe. but their lineup at the end of that game with some of the pinch running decisions that were made and the Springer injury, I don't see how George Springer plays tonight. Now, the same thing could be said about George Springer coming back from getting dinged on a knee with the baseball then hitting that immense home run, maybe the second biggest home run in Blue Jay history. That's really going to be the challenge for Toronto. How the hell are they going to score? It doesn't matter if it's Otani on the mound or anybody else.

How are they going to score runs with their lineup that's banged up? Ravi, we appreciate you joining us. When can we watch you tonight? You have to get five to six Eastern time we'll be leading into. And then last night, Pat, I know you were up. We did a post-game show from about 145 to 215 to 215 to 15 in the West Coast. So join us then.

I'll text you. I'll let you know if we're running four again. Thank you, Ravi. Ladies and John McCarras. Yeah, Robbie. Post-game show after an 18-in-game game. Hell yeah, Ravi. Hold it down.

Bro, that's awesome. Yeah, I actually did a postgame show after an 18-inning World Series. How about you? Yeah, 115. Damn. 145. Talk about stepping up.

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I think you started at 32 or 33. It's already over 40. Well, you had multiple games over 30. I think you only had one game over. 40 and you say, there's a bunch of JOPs on there. My coach really padded his stats. Nonetheless, this cranium right here was all over the yard in every yard that he was playing football. And on that note, the Chiefs is all the way back. Congrats to you, getting it right, forcing me to go the other way. Thought you were an underdog type guy. Turns out you're not.

Worst late in the history in the last 55 years for the NFL, 2080 will be the next time that this will take place if we're to repeat the same time frame where there's only one game that is a one-score game on an entire NFL slate. What did you learn from last night's 10-and-a-half-point spread where the Chiefs covered easily over the Washington commanders, AJ? Yeah, the Chiefs did cover easily, eventually it got to that. But early on, it was a bit of, I don't know, what is it going to be called those soccer games that are terribly lonely?

KG! There's a KG! Yeah, it was definitely a defensive battle early, I would say. Some turnovers, obviously, both sides. But, yeah, the Chiefs know what to do. The Chiefs know how to win. That's what they're programmed to do. it's what Patrick Mahomes is programmed to do

and they just find ways to win and also credit to that Chief's defense again. They played very well, I thought. B.A., what do you see from the offensive side with the amount of weapons that Patrick Mahomes has had? And they're saying this might be the best offense that they've ever had whenever they get this thing really rolling

with the amount of weapons that they have. Yeah, I've got Pichenko going in to run a game and offensive lines playing better. Rishie Rice makes a huge difference and the speed is showing up. You know, since Tyreek has been gone, the speed is starting to show back up. I just would, Pat, would get

out of bounds some. He took some hits he don't need to take. Yeah, well, that was last year. Remember last year and also earlier this year when they weren't playing that well, he started doing the, I gotta be the guy guy, you know, and I think he views himself as tough guy. Grew up, obviously, in a clubhouse baseball. Dad's a dog.

I think he views himself as a dog. I don't think he sees himself as we all see him. Like, yo, brother, you're already on the Mount Rushmore of football players. Brother, you're already in a goat conversation. Brother, if you get hurt, they are screwed over there in Kansas City. I don't think he sees it like that right now. No, he's too tough for his own good A lot of these guys are getting that way,

but he took one or two shots on the sideline. He could have just stepped out of bounds. And I think since he started to flexing, guys are taking bigger shots on it. Well, that was because he did the docee dough on a guy and hits a guy. And then everybody that has a defensive helmet on their head or ever has worn a defensive helmet on their head said,

guy, keep doing that. Go ahead and keep doing it. And the NFL doesn't want to happen either. These refs, okay, let's get into it. Here we go. Age. Age. Bruce Ariens been a coach

47 years in football I've obviously not witnessed all 47 years of him coaching football I've only seen one year and I think I saw enough to really have a pretty good grasp on how this whole thing goes

we're in spring okay OTAs running some drills seven on seven or whatever had refs in local refs that are like college refs okay local refs they come in just getting surprised Okay, just get some practice. But hey, if you're just going to get some practice,

don't be ruining our practice is BA's mindset. Guy misses a touchdown. Okay, guy misses a time. Clearly two feet in. He calls him out. Obviously, the defense does a full celebration. I mean, it was clearly a touchdown. Like, me and Vinny are standing right there,

two feet clearly in. Bad call by the refs. Defense doesn't want to hear. Defense does a fool to be a, you know, because B.A's coming in wearing all black on days that he kills him in the whole funeral. So B.A. listens to the defense

and then just completely turns to this ref just beeline two ref lets him know how big of an embarrassment he is basically and how much he chooses he undresses this ref in this OTA thing and he walks away okay then he walks away and then he starts talking shit to the defense

and talks shit about the ref while talking shit to the defense to them and walks away I was like yes this is before I got to see him in action during games then during games you know you got that side judge or whatever on the sideline, unbelievable working of this side judge. And I think he has a personal relationship with basically all of them.

I am pretty sure he has a personal relationship with all of them. But BA, much like the players, okay, I think players normally feel this way a lot more than coaches do, at least enact on it. BA understands these refs are very important to the game. And when they are asked, they need to hear about it. I asked BA this morning, hey, anything you want to talk about? We need to talk about these refs. That's what he said.

Okay, that was his big takeaway. Okay. And I'll tell you what, compelling case whenever you start seeing some things. And obviously, everybody's talking about the tush-bush. We'll save that for last. There were some clear and obvious ones on Sunday night football in the biggest game between the Steelers and the Packers that they didn't get right. Broderick Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers, left tackle, actually goes in motion, basically, for a play. Now, it's not as easy to see if you're not looking for it at the beginning, which the ref should be.

They get SkyCam on this. This thing is, this guy's behind the guard before the ball's even snapped. Okay, don't know how you miss that. Awesome. That's what drives me crazy. The clear and obvious, they don't warn the tackles anymore. They'll call them, and now you see a tackle sitting back four yards. This guy's off sides.

And then that's one where the defense jumps offside. On the complete, the next drive. So now the Green Bay Packers, now the Green Bay Packers have a chance. Mike is trying to scare him, get Zach Frazier, jump off sides. How are you doing? What he actually gets is his de-tackle to move. Devante Wyatt. And then Roshan Gary also, there's two guys offside.

Just on third down, Aaron just being in the game. 20 years. Okay, this is a free play. Almost to the point where they should have stopped it because they almost made contact. Like if there's no contact in their off sides, they let the free play happen. This guy was so close to Frazier, you thought they might even stop it because there's contact. Then Aaron Rogers throws an incompletion. It's now fourth down. He goes bananas on these refs. But this is the biggest game of the weekend. This is Sunday night football. This is early. These are some important parts of the game. Very clear and obvious. They're missing it. Are they dropping down a level right now? Are the refs getting worse right now at the clear

an obvious, B.A. I think it's totally true. That quality from week to week is getting worse. I don't like that. Because then you say B.A. It's just two, there's just one crew. That's just one crew down there. He's like, check Tampa Bay game. Check Tampa Bay game against the Saints. So this

play, I think we need sound on, please. Spencer Rattler, quarterback for the New Orleans. I'm sorry, not, is this Spencer Routher? This is, yeah. Spenceerratherrather quarterback for the Saints, sound please. For sure. That's to Glenn and Chess. Rodler on the slant Bumbo

First down and then the ball came loose Taken back by Winfield No whistles The commentator just said no whistles Perrera I think is in the middle of saying I didn't hear a whistle The ball was clearly out obviously an opportunity

So they take touchdown back off of the board They still have the fumble recovery there B.A says oh okay yeah just take it touchdown off the board because of a whistle that none of us heard and it was on the opposite side of the field is that what you were told yeah the opposite side official wasn't even his call makes a call blows a whistle now to me that that's suspension yeah that's a suspension you don't you don't call any more games rest this year it's the NFL it's not your call it's the highest level it's not your call let the person call it's disposed of this inadvertent whistle thing drove me

crazy for a long long time yeah this is that the third one of these I've had okay so and he said I we've had if he's still in the bucks. You'll see some of the awards he gives out. He does have to walk into that building still on that point. And then obvious, the one, the tush push. The tush push is clear and obvious and also incredibly hyped. And whenever you think about this play, yesterday, Dan Orlovsky and our conversation about it, two million views on X, the other one, like 1.8 million views on X. People obviously at the point of wanting to figure this out. Now, most people saying, get it out of the game. Philadelphia people are still putting up the same fight that they had during the off season. Whenever they were trying to ban this, it's like, hey, it's a football play.

If it's so easy, why doesn't everybody do it? Then we watch the off sides that happen. We watch the illegal motions. Now we're watching this happen where they say forward progress is stopped and they take away a thumble recovery for the New York football giants against the Philadelphia Eagles. It's clear and obvious to everybody but the refs. Yeah, to me, it's like, okay, I'm all for the tush push. I mean, Jalen Hertz is unbelievable.

Only he can do it. Yeah. But if you can't referee the play, the play has got to get out of the game. And obviously, they can't referee this play anymore. Between all the false starts, the offsides, and this. ridiculous play that forward progress was stopped. They're all going forward. He's reaching forward

when they take the ball away. And it got reviewed. Now, if you're going to review it, you review the whole play. Just get the right call. But they're saying that forward progress being stopped, trumps everything. Yeah, they've been using that for a long time. That's the scapegoat.

Yeah, it has been the Trump card. Their Trump card has always been the forward progress thing if they made a mistake. But we're at the point now where it's like, why not just get it right if you can get it Right. We're already doing the New York drop-in expedited rules. Well, they can't overturn everything. They can't put a flag out. It's like, why not you guys are letting them basically do that anyways. Why don't we just get the call right if we know it's clear and obvious? And the way this was originally reported, correct me if I'm wrong. I think one of the aggregator accounts put it out and said there was a mistimed whistle or something like that. It was like the whistle actually didn't blow until after Tibido had the ball. So there was no blow of this thing being dead. It was just a forward progress conversation. AJ Bruce Brown, New York, John. fan, obviously, so he's going to feel a little bit in a certain way about this. He said, if they were to stop forward progress every time they did push

what's the push for? Because at some point he's going to stop, and then they're going to push him. So are they stopping the forward progress every single time now? Is that the expectation? It's the first time he stops is what the tush push is, which goes to the B.A.'s point. None of us know what everybody's going to do, which is probably

what the defenses would like to a little clarity on AJ. Yeah, everyone needs some clarity, I feel like, but also like it's getting worse as the season goes when it comes to the tush push and things like, the stuff that I guess you should be able to figure out, that you shouldn't be making repeat mistakes. They continue to make them. And I'm sure there's plenty of good refs out there.

I know that. There really is, but the problem is the bad ones make all of them look much worse, I feel. I just heard B.A. say, where? I just heard of us. No, there is. There certainly is good refs. We're not going to say it's very difficult to get an entire team of good refs. In this, in this environment, I mean, not a lot of people are signing up to be refs.

You know, like that is certainly an issue, which goes back to, we need that player pipeline. We need that academy. I think so. I legitimately think it's a good idea. Yes, indeed. Do you think the NFL will ever get on board with it? I would think so. I mean, it's for former players.

You know, for me, it's like whatever we can do to help a former player transition to the next step after playing. We do it for broadcasting. We do it for some other things. Business. They do it for business. I know this. Steve Freeman was the best back judge I ever knew because he played safety for 13 years. He knew exactly where his eyes

were supposed to be all the time. And to me, that was like, we need more Steve Friedman's out here. And we're not saying that all refs have to be former players. No. But we're saying, if we can recruit former players to become officials by this academy that the NFL and the NFLPA have done for many of them. You

talked about broadcasts. They did for business as well. I think there's a social media one. Now, there's all these different things that kind of get pieced together, like little boot camps that get piece together to help players do it. If it was actually that big of a deal to the league. I mean, you can make that a year-round thing. Offer salaries, you can get on scholarship. You can even get sponsors to get in there because everybody wants the

rep thing to be fixed. And you're taking care of former players, easy baby face move by the NFL area to do this. And I think you'd get guys that appreciate the job, know the job, and also aren't scared. Like, I think some people in some of these calls are scared to make the call. And it's like, are you scared? Are you confident? Like, what is going on? And new refs probably getting intimidated. I would say that is something that could certainly happen, especially on NFL field whenever you're seeing people that maybe you even played video games with playing alongside you and they're talking to you and you got BA in your ear as well like that's a real that's not a law start but that's a thing great coaches do they will work the refs to where you might get a little you might get a little help as the game goes on yeah and a little frantic too you're getting in there maybe a little fras I'm not saying every refs but we're just saying like if we can get players in these positions I think that would be good for the game and I think we should be trying to promote that legitimately I think that's something they should think about doing well and the whole thing it's strictly about it accountability. Like, guess what?

Refs are going to screw it up no matter what forever. But if you're not accountable, then you'll just continue to screw up and it won't matter whatsoever because it didn't matter then and they can just skate by and go to the next game. And to your point about the aggregator tweet, yeah, it was like early whistle on the Eagles before the fumble. That's wrong. But, you know, 10 million views later, everyone thinks that there's an early whistle.

So people not knowing ball also a massive problem. But like, no matter what, the pipelines absolutely should happen. people from those pipelines will get calls wrong. Like that happens, no matter. Human error forever in the past and the future will always happen. But it's strictly accountability. Like if you don't have accountability, then nothing actually matters. And on that note, Gene Steritor, right?

We've talked to him a lot about how he handles being a ref. And he's like, hey, you know what, DB was holding a little bit. Didn't affect the play. We kind of carry on here. This one, not a part of the play. We just kind of keep it feel like a feel for the. And I'm not saying that there's zero. NFL officials currently that have

feel for the game. I'm just saying like X players would have that feel, you know? It's like we should. That seems like a trick. You've got to get the easy ones right. You got to get the easy ones right. Like that's the thing. Like I understand there's some tough ones. There's some, you know, was that PI? Was it not PI?

Whatever. It's just those I understand a little bit. The judgment calls with some of these things seem like almost day one install stuff for rep. Broderick Jones there. 77. I mean him going in motion. That is literally what he did. He won motion. And then the refs were like, hey, listen, listen,

we'll make up for you. We'll get you back. We'll get you back. We'll get you back. We'll let you get two guys off sides, almost touch on third down. Like for Aaron Rogers, it's pretty big down here. This is the money down. In his head, third and eight, okay, obviously third and long, but I got a free shot here at anything. Okay, guys covered, but let's go ahead and give it a go here. Why not? You know, let's just kind of take. They're the most touchdowns in the history of the NFL with getting, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's an errands thing. Too many men, jump up, fall start, off sides, his

Cadence is his cadence. That is why he does it. So he feels like, yep, did it again. Hello, Pittsburgh. This is the show. And him getting it to Green Bay, probably like, Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is my shit. You know, I took you down, tripping down memory lane real quick, getting a free play. And then the rough's just being like,

yeah, it's fourth down, bro. Yeah. That was an incomplete pass. Yeah, good pressure by those guys. We punted it and never got another stop. And that was the end of the game. Oh, my God. So you guys lost not because Brett Michaels wasn't heard by the entire stadium. you lost because it is

Mike has drawn his own guys off sides. You know, trying to bait Zach Frazier. He got his hand on a ball. Obviously not in a moment. Definitely lost that because of that. That's crazy that that happened to you guys. And you guys are calling for people's jobs over there. No kid. It should be the rest. Nobody's calling for anybody's jobs.

Yeah. We're just pointing out facts. So, everyone else can come to their own conclusions. I like that. What would that be described? What is your conclusion? Leading the witness? Leading. On that note, let's do a little BS or no BS with BA, shall we? This is for our favorite segments every single week.

We present a statement of fact to Coach BA, and he tells us if that's BS or if that's no BS. Here's the first one, running back that trick. Oh, sorry. I missed it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I got real excited. I got real excited.

That was great. I got really, really, really excited. Running back that brink truck. up okay like back that ass up uh are we thinking that running backs are about to get paid running backs are about to get the brink truck is that BS or no BSBA that's no BS I mean you look at the guys that just got paid they're going to get paid a whole lot more and then you got all these young guys who are absolutely tearing it up but the thing I think that separates most of the especially the young guys getting ready to be paid is that they're great receivers that great receivers

got a lot of money. Quarterbacks obviously got a lot of money. Defensive ends got a lot of money. The running backs weren't getting paid. They were saying that the running backs here was like 30 of them. No big deal. We could put anybody in these jobs. They actually had like a little bit of a holdout

these running backs. If you remember, Sequin at one point, alongside Jonathan Taylor. They said, we're not doing it anymore. We're not going to play. Jonathan Taylor was the only one that really stuck to it, I must say. Everybody else kind of folded. Jonathan Taylor remained with his hoodie up and at practice saying, nope, I'm worth more, you need to pay me.

Now, they inevitably did. I didn't love the way he went about doing it. They need to pay him again, so we don't have that situation. But it does feel like the running back is becoming the main feature of offenses that are great again. And that's got to be special as an old-time football coach. Yeah, you look at Christian McCaffrey. Two weeks ago, 63% of the offense was Christian McCaffrey. And with, what, 147-yard Russian, seven catches.

And I think that's what separates those guys, that there's such much. mismatches in the passing game. Gibbs, Acney, Bejohn, all these guys are huge mismatches in the passing game. So that wasn't always a thing. I remember back whenever they would say, like, well, this running back doesn't have good hands? Nowadays, you kind of have to have.

That doesn't everybody kind of have to have good hands at this stage of football? I think the only guy right now who's a great running back that plays first and second down is Derek Henry. And he's never in there on third down. And he can catch. He's great on screens and stuff. So I don't know why he doesn't play more on third down. Yeah, because I wouldn't mind checking it down to him and let him go.

Yeah, of course, that'd be nice to give Derek Kennedy the ball. They're two and six right now. The thought of back in the day, though, you talked about the first two downs, if a running back could run routes like a wide receiver, it was like this guy's feet. They're absolutely unbelievable. Now it's basically, hey, you're a running back. You've got to catch. You've got to run a route.

You've got to be able to block. You're almost like a tight end in a backfield all of a sudden, and you're getting ball handed to you. I think that's inevitably going to lead to the value going way up. How long is this last for? Is this the new fad? You know, because, like, them not being valuable was a fad. And then now they're back. Is this sustainable?

We think this is how everybody's going to try to build. Are there enough of these guys out there? I think there are getting more and more coming from college that are really multidimensional. And the speed factor is unbelievable. But when you look at Bejohn Robinson with Al Jueres in the back fair of him splitting out, who's covering him? If it's a linebacker of safety, that ball's coming right now.

Here we go, baby. And, you know, I go back to the day. where I had Christian O'Coyen-Berryward, big 260, 250 backs, first and second down. Hoop, third down here comes Todd McNair. He leads the team in receiving. We play the Chargers. Big backs. Oh, Ronnie Harmon comes in.

You can't cover this guy. Yeah. He's going to beat you every time. And so I see the halfback. You know, it went to H-backs, tight ends, kind of became the mismatch, Brock Bowers, those type guys. Now it's coming back to the half-backs. You're seeing a lot more empty sets, those guys going to, especially in a two-back set,

say they've got a big back and a fast guy. I wouldn't be surprised at Detroit had Montgomery and Gibbs in the game real soon together. Oh, the tag team, Sonic and Knuckles. Do you hear what they were calling them after week one up there in Detroit, VA?

Did you hear what they were calling them? No, I did not. Oh, hey, Foxy, what were you guys calling? What were you calling them specifically these guys? They're leading your team now? Don't listen to Pat. I never called him this, but after week one when we got our asses kicked by the Packers

instead of Sonic and Knuckles, they were calling them ass and cheeks and I didn't like it one bit, coach. That's what they were saying up there in Detroit. Sometimes you got to eat that shit. Sometimes you do. AJ, you were in the

CTE Hardhead era of running backs and obviously middle linebacker. Wasn't that a combo? Like, hey, this running back can catch good. Now it's like yeah, of course. Everybody has to. Yeah. And in BA hit on it's like the matchups. I mean, Reggie Bush in Detroit, they'd motion them out to one. You've got

linebacker running out there playing like you're trying to get in a weird little corner stance and act like you're comfortable out there covering reggie bush like running routes so yeah it creates matchup issues everywhere and these guys now like they're so fluid in their routes as well like think about it you can you can get your matchups you want you can make it like you can kind of manipulate everything right here just get the ball in space it's like a it's a low risk play and the dude can do things like this with the ball and you just nope your little it's basically a toss sweep that golf throws to him and he can take it to the house.

Okay, so you said you can manipulate matchups. Can we explain that a little bit more? So obviously you've got two outside wide receivers that's going to eat up the corners. Then you got probably a slot in there. That's going to eat up your nickel. So normally the running back is being guarded by a linebacker, right?

Isn't that kind of unless they go to dime and then they'll have a safety kind of covering them? Yeah, and he's got to be able to tackle in the box because you put that personnel in, they're going to run the ball on you. All right. So if you're trying to match up with DBs, they're going to run it down your throat.

That's the beauty of having two backs, all right? Are you going to treat this as pony and play nickel? When that big back's going to pound your ass, all right? And if you try to load the box, here we go with that mismatch. That's the beauty of the chess game of football. So the running back being able to catch, that's why it was such a big conversation. Like, hey, have to have a linebacker in here because we'll just pound them if they don't. But if they have the linebacker in here, he runs 4-7.

We got guy who runs 4-3, 4-4 back here. So that's an automatic mismatch, basically, in every style of offense, or is it just certain styles of offense? I think it's every – I mean, I go back to Marshall. Falk who I thought that probably was the best running the football and running routes. Then we had David Johnson in Arizona who close to had 1,000 and 1,000 real close. Those guys are, they're very, very hard to find, but I'm seeing more and more of them coming into the league now.

Joseph Adai, I was very lucky to watch him work. He worked on his routes, like he worked on his cuts and everything like that. And I remember people around him talking about how abnormal, like some people are telling him he's wasting time getting good at that. as a running back, and he thought, like, if I can get open, Peyton's going to throw me to book, like, this, I want to, I would like to shake shit out of these guys and get the ball from Peyton. He did just that.

I'm just got an MVP in the Super Bowl. I mean, he is, you're talking about being an absolute beast, but that was whenever I was rookie, that's how they were talking. That's 2009. People were talking like, hey, what are you doing this for almost? And then now it's like, if you don't do this, you're probably not going to see the field. It's an interesting kind of evolution of the position, I think.

Remember Leveon was doing it at 225 pounds. He was so slew. He's a freak. Absolute freak. Yeah, he was awesome to watch play football. I mean, that was... He was real fun to cover it. Same thing.

They would do that where linebackers have them. Like, you have a two-on-one, like me with the other backer, and Lavian's back there, and you're sitting there like, man, just please don't motion out the slot. Just don't send this dude out. Third down, he just pops up his little, you know, his little saunters out there, and I'm sitting there with outside leverage, look at my inside. I'm like, hey, you better be hard inside, buddy. I am pushing him inside.

We are, and he shakes both of us. So I got, cool, this is fun. You do that for four straight quarters. It's terrible. Who's calling plays? Is that you? I wonder if that was B.A. call? I didn't have the killer bees.

Okay. Todd? Todd. Yeah, I appreciate Todd Haley. Yeah, I appreciate Todd Haley. Yeah, too, with A.J. Hawk rolling out. Yeah. We're going to do that.

We try to keep him in. That's when you try to keep him in. You go hug, you hug the A guy. Like, I'm blitzin, buddy. You got to stay in, right? He would never even honor us because I never got to go. Never honor us. He never honor.

He's like, I know. I've watched film, bud. You're not coming. I know. Look at me, bro. Look at me. I'm coming. Here we go. Never honored us.

What do we describe that? They never took us serious. Every time we showed, they never honored us. I'd have to get out from the O line, actually, or D-line and go out to. Go ahead, call me. Was Todd Gurley like that? Like, Todd Gurley, the stats always come around where it's like, Todd Gurley would be fifth in touchdowns going back to 2015 and now.

Like, was he overseeing back? What do you have a knee? Yeah, it was like degenerative knee disease or something. was so good. But yes, he was definitely like that. Yeah, running back's a fun position. I didn't even think about the way we're kind of talking about it and the way I think you want us to talk about it. It's like the tight end position obviously having a massive uptick for everybody, like hey, need one. Running back position is that plus some because you can just hand on the wall. Not that you can't do that to a tight end, but you can literally just do this one here.

Good for the running backs. It was a little dicey there for a little bit. It was. It was a little I see there for a little bit at further position. Congrats to them. Now, let's go to the second statement of fact that they've been saying B.A. Yeah, Bruce, there's a lot of chatter out there that every head coach in the AFC North is on the hot seat. Is that BS or no BS, B.A? I think that's no BS.

Whoa. This was supposed to be the best division in football. They got one team with a winning record of four and three. All right, that's not good. And they've got to play each other. 9 and 8 might win the division. Whoever wins the division you get to come back next year.

I think the other three are probably looking for a job. Okay. Now, whenever we put this together, this graphic, I looked at that because you never really think an entire division's head coaching staff is potentially going to be changed in one off season, you know,

because somebody has to win the AFC North, which is kind of what you're saying at 9 and 8. But you look at some of the legends there, you know, like Tomlin's been in Pittsburgh Steelers a long time. Harbaugh's been with Baltimore Ravens, long time. Now, obviously, Stefanski's been through it.

time coach the year. Yeah, like four or five different eras of the Cleveland Browns and to your point, two-time coach of the year. And then Zach Taylor with the Bengals, there's like, at the beginning this guy's a dofus, then he goes to Super Bowl. Yeah. With Cincinnati Bengals, this guy's the king and now everybody's kind of cooled off. All the fan bases have cooled off basically on

all of these coaches. And I don't know how loud and how long that can be but whenever I saw this graphic and then I said you were saying no BS, it's like, that would be wild if the entire AFC North got a new facelift. Yeah. That would be an insane thing, especially for how traditional and how historic the

AFC North is as a whole. Yeah, and now the stats, especially when it comes to Zach Taylor to your point are coming out how, you know, the teams that have scored 38 plus points in NFL history are 260, not the exact number, but 260, 6 and 1, and the Bengals are 1 and 3 in those

games, and they're the only team to lose multiple games that way, and so I saw a lot of people more so kind of broaching the question, hey, why haven't you changed anything if this hasn't been working? And here's a stat from Hembo for the defense's side of the things, which we can certainly visit here. Scoring defense of every division, this is points per game that they give up. AFC North, 27.4 points per game they're giving up.

Who put that emoji there? That was Hembo. Hembo did that? Yeah, Hembo said, it's a little dukey, brother. Wow. I'll tell you what, you never want to be described as dukey. That's about as shitty as it can get. And when you look at that, you think about the AFC North.

It's a defensive-led division, which is why this is Cleveland's defense. Pittsburgh's defense Baltimore's defense The only one that we don't think about defense Immediately Cincinnati Bengals That's because they paid so much money to the offense But that's supposed to be a defensive heavy Grin and Pond type division

And then the stats coming out like Nope, not like that at all And when expectations are this And you come in like this That's whenever you know potential jobs But all these franchises are super slow moving Yes they are These types of decisions

Well and that's what I was going to ask you BA is like when you've got guys like Tomlin and Harbaugh who have been there for so long and our Hall of Fame coaches, if there is like a big facelift in the AFC North, do you think the talent pool in the NFL, like, will they be able to just replace those guys with ease? Because that's what we're talking about in college right now is like, all these guys are getting fired. And it's like, well, are we going to be able to find good enough?

I don't even want to get in that right now, but who are filling all these college? That's what I mean. Like the talent pool is just not there. Like, are you, is the NFL always going to find that next guy? I don't think so. I think each one of these teams historically has been very, very consistent in what they do. And if who is behind door number two, that's your question. And if I got a guy that I really like to behind door number two, I'm going to make a move. But if it's just a bunch of guys, no, I'm going to keep my guy. He knows what he's doing. He just had a bad year, you know. But for this

division, especially if they lose in the first round of the playoffs, for this division to get wiped out that fast, that's not good. Yeah, the who is going to be your coach next combo. Terrible game. It seemingly comes after the father. You got to have some, I would imagine you only do it if you have like one or two people in mind that you really want to go after that you think you can get, right?

We're doing BS or no BS with BA right now, so I don't want to get off topic, but like all these college jobs, who are they hiring? Who's everybody, everybody has money, okay? Everybody has good NIL. Everybody has good opportunity. Who's, you know, you can add Virginia Tech. of this thing. There's a lot of good opportunities. Who's going to get hired for all

these jobs? Well, is it just going to be like musical chairs and like the guys who have got fired are just going to... James Franklin head to Florida. Yeah, exactly. Brian Kelly's back of Penn State. He's a northern guy. I would rather do like the what Oregon with Dan Lanning. Like, hey, try to find an up-and-coming coordinator

who you know is, well, it's hard to know. So for the Steelers, if the Steelers were to move on from Coach Tomlin, which by the way, very unlikely, unless Coach Tomlin wants to. That is just and you know we say slow moving they would describe it as patience and they judge other organizations that make too quick of decisions they this is professional football that's run by a bunch of emotional amateurs that make decisions split decision because they don't know what they're doing that is how it's described whenever they hang on to coaches that is what people say about their facility we are patient we build we like to you know the foundation to be strong in this entire thing now the fans of those teams say I'm bought sick of this particular foundation I'd like a new house but within those buildings they don't feel that way it's like hey this is our house we're very proud of it so who would you want for let's say you were a Pittsburgh Steelers sure and they were

to move on from coach strong what type of coach would you be looking for because they go young defense yes the last like three times that was going to be my immediate answer because they've had three coaches since i think it was 68 or something like that when chuck knoll was hired and obviously cower was a young special teams coach tom and a young defensive coach that That's where you would immediately look because that's just who we are and we want our coach to be able to be there for 15 to 20 years. I would not want a retread coach. But yeah, like a young, like someone who,

Tomlin is great. He's been a great and he's been a great player's coach. This is a hypothetical. Yeah, yeah. Someone who's maybe a little more stern. So Harbaugh, now let's say the Baltimore Ravens. If you're able to move on from Harbaugh, who do you think Buda and the boys over there would be hoping

would become the Baltimore Ravenson? bring minter back yeah that would be that was what I was leaning to mint mentor would be a dog yeah and then like the college conversation like do you really look for a coach or do you just look for the quarterback and then tell the Oc of the quarterback hey you're the head coach bring him

song of bulletelli good win by you guys I can't believe I can't believe virginity tech got cow song and pull tell he's going to be a special he's going to stay at cow Walmart's got him figured out of it I don't want to get into the algorithm for saying anything negative but college obviously much crazier the NFL though I'll be excited to see who the next ones are that kind of come through here but an entire division especially like a historic division having all of their coaches potentially on the hot seat is crazy AJ Hawk yeah I don't know I mean that would be wild if that did happen but there's I guess with all these opportunities out there like we're going to see some young up-and-comers that we don't really know much about get get a chance like get a chance hey can you can be the guy what about halfway we'll see who it is do we're happy halfley's been ahead

Coach, before. He's pretty happy where he's at, though. Is he, though? He's got Micah now. Yeah, he's doing great. He's got Micah jumping off sides, pushing his detack off sides, and they're not calling it. That would be fun.

Exactly. That would be a fun thing to have if you had it. It's perfect. There was one thing that upset me watching that game. Okay. I've never seen the Steelers have to use a silent count at home. Yeah, Aaron talked about that. And for the Steelers fans, that's embarrassing.

Oh, no. That's a desk. I mean, when you got Demi Packer fans, and I still call it Heinzfield. But when it's that, that's unheard of. Go, back, go. I mean, what was a bad sign for me. Well, they're quarterback for 20 years.

They bought these tickets years and years and years ago. They circled this game on their calendars for a lot of time. On that note, I think you could circle back to Pittsburgh is a football town. And Pittsburgh has seen a lot of football over there that is not, in their eyes, Super Bowl football. and status quo has kind of just snuck in is like, yep, this is what we're doing. Now, on that note, Steelers did vastly different things this offseason. Yes.

Paid a lot of money in DK, burns of free agents, brought in Aaron Rogers. I think they tried to mix it up, but I think Steelers fans are at the point of like, we're done with being a winning season celebration. I've talked to a lot of fans who are leaving that game. Like, what are we even doing, wasting our time coming down here to watch this product? Okay, that's where they're at. That's not good. You're scoring points, though.

You're scoring points. Yeah. Agreed. But then they can't stop it. anybody on the other. So that's almost even worse. You're just going to, oh, now we shitting our left hand and we either are the right. That's great. That is kind of how they feel. But it's a fickle bunch. It's an emotional bunch.

Big time football fans. But I think for the last, what, three, four years, it's been like the same thing. Like, hey, we're done with the nine and eight, okay? Because we don't even get a good draft pick. Yeah, we don't even get a good draft. So we're about. It's kind of always in purgatory. That's what, and Steelers fans know that they're in purgatory.

I think. I think Steelers fans know. Not that that's definitely the case for this year's team. This year's team has enough talent. They can obviously turn it around. Defense can start flying around. They can go win a Super Bowl. But I don't think Yenzer's fans are fucking listening to that right now. I think it's a late night on Sunday.

I got work on Monday and we're going to lose. I don't think so, but that is how Yenzers probably think. And what sucks, too, like the draft pick for sure, but Patriots fans are getting it right now. Like, you guys are playing no one. You're playing no one. The benefit of finishing last is you get an easier schedule. Well, you do a couple years of last place.

All of a sudden, you're not in prime time. playing the pack. You're not, you know, taking on the Chiefs. They're in the AFC North. That's always going to be hard. But like, then you're out of division games. You're not in a gauntlet. So like the benefits of having a couple shitty seasons is, hey, on the horizon, you are going to get an easier schedule and your team will get better. And then it's just a matter of hitting on the quarterback. But when you're looking at the Colts, the Seahawks, a few of these teams, it's like, hey, you don't have to draft a good quarterback anymore. You just need to get a better one.

A lot of people are saying to us, Patriots and Colts, you guys haven't played anybody. and Connor you were the one I said yeah we sucked we got a shitty schedule and I was like yeah we did we earned this we earned this guy what are you coming after us for we earned this thing and it's any given sundays the NFL yeah it is and like the browns are the third best events in the NFL but the browns aren't good when Drake may does well and then the other thing too is like by the way this just all goes back to nobody knows ball on the internet like there's a reason coaches don't go on the internet because no one has a fucking clue what they're talking about about anything but especially football I'm sure you could find it

but that's the benefit that the Steelers will never get you know it's always focused on how the draft picks in the middle but like the other thing is that schedule because the AFC North is going to be hard no matter what division games in general are going to be hard no matter what but if you don't finish in that bottom two you're out of conference games are never going to be easy

and then you're going to be screwed no matter what and Cleveland Browns for a long time and said hey we're going to take that we're going to take that bottom spot okay we're going to go ahead and take that bottom spot we're going to get that bad schedule and we're going to do bad again so we can get it again. If we don't, we'll get rid of the quarterback who was a rookie of the year.

Yeah, exactly. Because you know what we want? We want that bad schedule. We don't want. Yeah, but instead of Baker, they get a 40 million defense vend who just bitches and moans about the offense every game, even though he signed up for it after requesting the trade. That's even better. No, no.

Even better is you pay $230 million guaranteed for a guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you forgot. Yeah, you forgot that part of the whole thing that they're still living under. Oh, yeah. And on that. He might play this year. I saw him working out.

I hope. I saw him working out. One game, 200 million? I mean, that is what I call a contract, baby. Moolgette's the hats off. Yeah, David Moolgetta is really always doing this one here. You know, Jimmy Sexton season's currently happening in college ball. Molligata season, always cooking.

Who can I break a record with next? You. Don't show up. Don't even think to me. Come here, Michael. Come here, Michael. You talk to Jerry Wend. say no you didn't

Connor's got the last BS or no BS with B. Yeah let's move on from the AFC North Bruce the AFC South and NFC South division races are over I think that's total bullshit What? Oh no I was just on the show 7 and 1, 6 and 2 but the teams behind him

they got to play twice they still got to play twice that part of it's a lot of football and the teams behind them are playing pretty good football so I think they're going to do it I think they'll win it But I think they got a lot of football ahead of them. The bucks need to get healthy.

The Colts need to stay healthy. Yeah, so the Jags, obviously, in second, the AFC South, Colts got a Jags twice. Bruce told me that this month. I figured we'd already play Liam team. We have not, okay? I wish we would have gotten a little bit earlier. I don't know what they're going to be at this stage.

But good luck to the Jags. We got to play them twice. So obviously that's a two that they could pick up on us and two in the right column. And then for the Buccaneers, who they have coming after them? They got the Panthers twice or in second place

and of the two I think both teams end up winning the South here at the Texans they're starting to play a little bit better they certainly are that defense for sure

yeah Houston Texans CJ Stroud maybe he's back maybe they're not ass okay people aren't talking about them at all okay they just beat the Niners

yeah it was with Mack Jones did you see the time of possession what was the time of possession for that Texans game I believe it was 24 to 6 in the first half if I remember it correct Think about that, B.A. I think it was like a record.

Yeah, since it was the most time of possession in the first half. I want to say since 2009. The Texans possessed the ball for 24 minutes and 31 seconds in the first half versus 49ers. It's the most time of possession since 2009 when the Jets had 24 or 50 time of possession versus the Bengals in week 17. Good pooled tone. That's a very good pool. That's like two days ago. Yeah. And that's the big worry with the Niners.

It's like, sure, Mack Jones and stuff, but their defense without Bosa and Fred Warner just isn't the 49ers defense were used to anymore. Yeah, but on that note, Houston Texans' offense might have had a wake-up game. This might have been an entire situation. And anytime you're dominating that much, your defense is also crushing. Mack Jones and a boys, quick three-in-outs. Can't be happening. But maybe the Texans are back. All right, that was BS or no BS for B.A.

AJ, a couple storylines happening around the NFL. Do you see Big Dom showed up for Scatibu? I did. I mean, Big Dom is everywhere, but I wish I knew this dude. Like, he, this guy's awesome. Yeah, I mean, just, hey, you're in our city. Listen, at least I could do. Cheese steak, pizza, we hope you're okay.

Anything else you need? Go ahead and reach out. Not too much, you know, because the Eagles, Giants type of thing. But just know that when you're in this city, we appreciate you. Then last night he was with Cooper Gene, the Sixers game. Yeah. Big Dom is Philadelphia. And I don't know if it gets talked about enough couple years back when he gets kicked off the field and they kind of go into the shitter.

Yeah. Big Dom is Philadelphia. Does every team have one of these guys? that is kind of representative of the team, the city, and everything, basically, that takes place around there? I think everybody's got a really good security person, but Big Dom is, I think, top of the list. And I thought Tex Randolph was one of the best they ever has been to.

Yeah, I love Tex. Texed here at the Indianapolis Colts. Now, I think he would take a cheese steak and a pizza to somebody. I think he would have been told to do that, though. I don't think he's thinking about that. I think Big Dom is kind of working the angles there. What a weapon for the Eagles to have. Now, on that note, Eagles win the Super Bowl this year?

It doesn't feel like it. It doesn't. It's possible. It's definitely possible. Well, I like that you kind of stayed on the fence. I had to think about it. I don't know. I mean, they could, but they all, yeah, I don't know. It's a very weird squad. Is Big Dom win another Super Bowl this year? This year?

Yep. I'll go no. No. No. No. No. All right, I'm not going to vote. The other thing with Big Dom here that we got to remember, too, Big Dom saw what happened, okay?

Hey, we got a great Giants running back in Free. And all of a sudden, the Eagles are great. He's seeing Scataboo rookie year. He's like, hey, Mar and them are going to screw this up. We are going to get Scatibu eventually. Don't you, boys, worry? I'll go get some Zaz and steak and cheese for this guy. He's pre-portaling.

He's pre-portaling. We talked about this yesterday whenever, you know, Lane Kiffin brought up the fact that his freshman wide receiver has a good Saturday. And then there's three teams calling him that night saying, hey, if you just were to get into portal here in a couple months, I think we got about $1.5, $2 million for you or whatever. and Lane's like talking about how that's every week now

that is just the kind of modern world. So these guys understand that there's maybe teams that are calling me ahead of time as well. He said it's easier to kind of deal with all that shit, but that's crazy

that that's taking place in college football. Once again, we don't think it's right. We're just saying this is the reality of the situation, AJ. And Big Don would,

hey, he'd pre-portle a guy. Oh, yeah. Is it tamper? Smart. Big Dom pre-portal. Big Dom makes it through all coaching staff. Whatever coaches, there, Big Dom has made it through everyone, right?

Yes. Yeah, and it's not tampering because there's not many people like that. What do you say? I say it's not tampering because they're both Italian. I mean, it's just two Italian guys sharing a meal helping each other out. Is Scataboo Italian? It does end in an O, but his dad's names, what? Leo.

That seems. Leonardo Scataboo. Yeah. No, we're talking. I think boom boom scada booms. Yeah, Leo Scada booms. I think he probably. We will accept it.

What's he own a pest business? Yeah. Yeah. He's a town. Hey, great. Oh, you need something taken care of you? No, Cam Scatibu is not Italian. He's actually Norwegian with a little bit of Portuguese.

Portuguese is closing up. Mike Pereira, same situation here. Yeah, bingo. Mike Pereira, Portuguese, man. We just call it Italian. It counts. He said it counts. Yeah, well, I don't...

He's honorary. Hey, shout out Scataboo. And Don, how about Don't taking that to a Norwegian guy? Exactly. I probably thought he was Italian. I'm sure they did. How's your mother? How's your family?

How you don't? You know, and then realize afterwards, out, shit, kids are Italian. Do you know he was Portuguese? I didn't know that. Go get the cheese steak. Kid didn't even touch the pepperone. That is probably what he said.

No E at the end. No E at the end. I respect that though. I appreciate that. Wence is going to IR with a shoulder injury. Obviously played through it. This dude, animal. I mean, this is part of the Carson Wentz experience.

Yeah. This is a part of it. What are your thoughts on Carson Wentz as the quarterback? Because can I give you mine? Yeah. As a non-quarterback whisper? I think he thinks every play is supposed to be a touchdown. and I think he would die on the field for every single play.

I think that was a good thing whenever he was playing MVP like football with the Philadelphia Eagles. I think him and Doug and Frank had a good system going over there. I think they had it kind of wrangled. He came over here to the Colts. Every play was like literally living or dying with. I have no idea how his family was able to watch him play for his entire life, just their hearts and stuff like that,

because he looks like he's either going to get severely injured or have a touchdown, basically every single snap, like 67 steps a game. What are your thoughts on Carson wants the quarterback as a whole? Obviously, he has a Super Bowl ring, but those types of guys that every play is like 100 or zero. How do you kind of manage that? Yeah, I think you do have to manage it

because you want that mentality. I'm scoring every play. But don't make this great throw 20 yards down the field and miss a wide-ass flare. The easy one. You misses too many easy ones. He does do that. All right?

The consistency and is, accuracy is the only thing I would hold back, toughness, everything you're talking about. He's off the charts. Everything I hear, he's a great leader, all that stuff. But inconsistent accuracy is to me that. How about whenever, like, Andrew Luck was kind of like this. Andrew Luck felt like he was disrespecting football if he was to give up on a play. Like, everybody was telling him like, hey, you need to step out, you need a slide.

And he said, I'm like, six, five, 240 pounds, I'm fast. this is football. Like his mentality was like, yeah, right. I'm disrespecting my family. I'm disrespecting the sport if I was to kind of bail out. What is the messaging to people like that? Because I think Carson has a similar thing. Oh, yeah.

Hey, Carson is willing to take four hits as opposed to maybe bailing out because he thinks he's disrespecting football. Have you run into those types of quarterbacks before? And what is the message? A bunch of them, especially their first and second year, trying to win over the locker room. I'm a tough guy. Hey, you guys can count on me.

I'm tough. ain't running out of bounds. And now you see all these young quarterbacks hurt. All right, they're running and not sliding. Andrew was maybe the worst. I said, look, if you throw another interception and tackle with your right shoulder,

I'm going to kick your ass. You only tackle with your left shoulder. Start, because he would die. Dude, he would go try to kill him. Yes, he was trying to declet people. Kevin Seaford of ESPN reported Kevin O'Connell insisted that Carson Wentz told him repeatedly

that he wanted to play as long as he possibly could after injuring his left shoulder. It had been a while since he had played meaningful games. Per O'Connell Wentz's, Friday morning, it was time to have surgery. I can't lift this thing anymore. I guess we should do surgery.

How about Kevin O'Connell going? The conversations we had, they have a mic'd up. I'm just like, bud, I don't think you should go. He's, I can do it. He did it for us. He did it for our entertainment. And that's what Carson once is. Like, we have so much respect for him, I think, AJ, because of that.

But inevitably, I don't know if that wins a Super Bowl at quarterback. Yeah, I don't know if it does, but it does, yeah, I would much rather than be that way, than the other way, scared to pull the trigger, checking it down all day, taking sacks. Like, I love his creativity. and his gutsiness in the pocket, I guess. And out of the pocket. AJ, Carson Wentz might want to dabble with a new profession.

I think he'd be great at it. W.W.E. And can you sense it? Ladies and gentlemen, can you feel it? Can you feel it? No. What? I can.

Can you feel it? You got to him right? I can feel it. Con man? I can smell it. AJ, can you feel it? I'm starting to feel it, yeah. It's almost WrestleMania season.

In Vegas, baby! They say in Vegas. Everyone's gotta tell. A blink. A breath. A moment that can't be controlled. But the great ones, they use it to their advantage.

They own it. They own it. They've got them right where they want them. The rest... Just haven't figured it out yet. WrestleMania Vegas. game. Can you feel it now?

You can feel it now. AJ, can you feel that? There was no Michael Cole in there, but they did have a seat open at the end of the poker table there. Maybe Michael Cole slides in there. A lot of things. You see Triple H. Paul?

You're behind Brock Lesnar right there? Yeah. Oh, what's going on there? If it's anyone's game and his seats open, I haven't seen Max Crosby miss a game ever, but he missed the second half a couple of years ago. Oh, Max Crosby, maybe because it's Vegas, you're saying.

Maybe the condors coming. out there to take over WrestleMania Vegas. We will say this as people that were at WrestleMania, Las Vegas. It worked. It was smashing success. The goat. Yeah, it is the perfect city for that type of spectacle. Obviously, I think they're taking it international after

this year, which everybody was pumped up about. But the Las Vegas WrestleMania last year delivered in a massive way, and that was sick. Yeah. Unbelievable. Is that AI? No. No, that was them.

The coin, maybe at the end, the chip. The poker chip fall in the way down. I don't know how many times he had to spend that. Yeah, probably quite a few. Why are they playing in like a cavern in like a dungeon? No, it was a back of a casino. Oh, it was? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it was one of those underground games we've been here so much about. Yeah, but it's not, it's WWE, brother. You know it's not a work. Bingo. There's a seedy underbelly, yeah. Yeah. Now, at that table, uh, Cody, I'd be interested to see his style of poker player. Aggressive.

Yeah. He's a nightmare to play with it. Well, he's an American nightmare. Is he a poker nightmare? I'm not Herbson, sure. And then he kind of pan around there, Roman Reigns. Yeah, right. Look how handsome be he's never going to break.

No. And then CM Punk, he's the closest to the table. He wants the action. Yeah, he's splashing the pot like an asshole. Yeah, he seems, he might be a pot splash. That guy there, though. Let's go ahead and pause. Pause.

That one. Yeah, right. You walk into a poker game. That fucking thing is sitting at the table. You go ahead and not play at that game. You have no idea what's going to take place. And that's why Triple H and Paul are standing right. bottom saying is this what you want to do and then who's the open chair who's got the open chair we find

out rest of me in Vegas take it's almost on sale brock's like a modern day loyal brunsson i don't know if he's texas dully but i uh i do respect everything you're saying and he would play seven two triple h and uh the um dude the wise man the wise man come on what were those two announcers names who did the uh norm chad norm jack yeah yeah that's those guys were Lon McCarran. They were really good. So sorry, Paul Hamer. You were a card player?

Oh, yeah. You are a card player? Play poker? A little bit. Spate? Oh, yeah. Yuker? Not as much.

500 was a big game of Pennsylvania. Like rummy? Yeah. Okay, so you play rummy? 500, yeah. You ever get into Tonk? Oh, yeah. Tonk's a good game.

You play Boo-ray? Very much on the plane with the players. Oh, no. That's a little expensive. Cards are almost under attack here earlier in the week. because, you know, the worst possible things of cards were kind of brought through full display, rigging of games, you know, marketing to people, getting big fish into a game and then taking advantage of them. And then all the different cheating conspiracies that we've obviously

learned this week that are possible in card games are certainly scary to think about in any card game. Cards are the greatest, though. I hope cards last forever. I'm worried that there is a generation that doesn't play cards. And I'm worried that this potential scandal is certainly going to scare people away from cards. Cards are the greatest. I am a I love. It brings people together too. It gives you something to do together. You need something to hang out and hang out with people that you're with.

But I think it might, I think it might come back like everything comes back. You know these kids are into like nostalgia, like late 90s music right now with big baggy pants. Like kids are into older things now going more like analog, I guess. So I think cards have hope. And it's tangible. You know, and Connor just said yeah, they're playing on their phone. It's like

another game on their phone. it's like, nah, we need physical cards. Yeah, we need that to happen. But nowadays, with all the technology, I don't know if you saw, somebody sent me a video of a guy with an iPhone, basically shuffling the cards over his iPhone, and then the iPhone told him what number hand was going to win.

I don't love that. Like two. It's like, all right, one, there's the winner, boom. There's the winner, boom. Turnover, guy flops a flush. It's like, Jesus. That's a problem. Yeah, that's not good.

That's maybe technology is going to kill. I don't want to do it. I refuse to have a moment of silence for cards because of this week. Not yet. No way. I'm not going to do it. We need cards. Because that's such a small portion of card playing society is going to games like that.

Like, cards are going to be fun. Yeah, but let's just, we understand that people can cheat at any card game. Well, yeah, yeah, for sure. No chance you're pointing my way. If you're a Hoffnom or if you own a pizza place and play someplace, and plum or no no no no those people were very those were outstanding people those were super italian name yeah there was a lot of italian that's you know cash patel i don't know how deep he's diving in these poker games my first reaction hey let's not be looking too far deep into these

i don't know what was just an italian game or sure you guys are throwing them off you where i don't know which ones i don't know which ones or which here but i do know there was a chance i was potentially it please thank you and please do not kill me as I'm way out of here I like I owe a lot to cards a lot to cards I hope we don't lose it I hope we don't lose it what else is coming from this you know because cash said to Stephen A. Smith was the dumbest person of all the time he did he came out and said that because Stephen A said this feels like a targeted attack at the NBA and then Stephen A said well it feels like probably the WMBA would be next and then cash said that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Is that because Cash knows? I would imagine. Like I said, I think this is kind of a slam dunk. I don't know how much more we'll see, but I think there are several more names. We're all very worried, right? We're all very worried about, like, what else is potential? Like, it was this tip of iceberg?

Yeah. That is kind of what we're thinking, right? Yeah, it happens. Scared of, not thinking, scared of that. It happened a day after the NBA started. So for me, all eyes turned to a day after college pass. ball starts. Oh yeah, there's a chance. Yeah, especially if Cash wants to do a perp walk, too.

Go get them at the hotel. Yeah. Call the cameras. Let's go and make that happen. Tonight, speaking of cameras, we got Frozen Frenzy. All 32 teams, 16 matchups, one night. Hockey's happening all over the place. Don't look now, Pittsburgh Penguins might win the Stanley Cup. Nick,

quickly, what teams should we be watching for this evening? What games are really going to lead the way here? On ESPN, Maine, you're going to have the Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers. Penguins are hot right now. Second best team in the NHL, and then you're going to have the Washington Capals, Alex Ovechkin, sitting at 899 career goals looking for

number 900 against Texas hockey to Dallas Star. And World Series tonight, Shohei Otani, starting a pitcher, and we'll be back tomorrow. And then Halloween's Friday, AJ, have you figured it out what you're going to be yet? Not just yet. Still working. We'll continue digitally with Coach B.A.,

who we freaking love. He's got his all BA team, actually. We're going to debut here in a matter of moments. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change their life. this thing together. We'll see you tomorrow. Let's enjoy sports, shall we? Goodbye. Really felt good about that. It felt casual.

Let's enjoy sports, I said. Did you hear that? Beautiful. Yeah, thank you, coach. Thank you. Coach. And I didn't step on in here. Hey, hey! Yeah. You had a double cop, dude. Yeah, awesome. I was saving that. You were saving that? I'm going to shit my pants. Let's get you a break on the other side. We got B.A's all-BA team. Middle of the season here. Yes.

we got we middle of the season already close yeah crazy yeah like week nine baby yeah man look at that nice nice is this what you want that's what you get you get that's a cool like uh we could build a trophy that b a team like that looks like that give these guys trophies or medals now that we know see we know how many people are on this team so

we know what you just tried to sign us up for i don't know And the season, maybe end of season, you know, maybe one. You get one trophy. End the season. There's a lot of guys. We'll go on to Amazon. I'll try to build it. All right.

We'll be back in about five minutes or so. You don't want to see this. I mean, we're giving out awards. We're giving out game balls. Yeah. I mean, we got a lot of shit with BA on the other side. Be a friend, tell the friends, something that might change your life. Take five.

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I think I got it off. I think I got it off. Suddenly, you got it off. Well, yeah, with some of these reps, that's A.J. Hawk the Toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Love the sweater. Is that because the frozen frenzy tonight? Yeah, I knew that was happening.

that's why when my Bruins hat and my USA Hockey sweatshirt, I knew the Frozen Frenzy was coming night, and I'm just so jacked up about it. I remember this morning, you were like, man, last night I knew that this was happening, and I was like, you know what, let's celebrate the hell out of hockey. Yeah, I told you, like, yeah, I fell asleep at the halftime of the NFL game,

didn't watch a look of the MLB game, because I'm so excited for the Frozen Frenzy tonight, baby. It was a lot of MLB game. Yeah, it was a lot of MLB game. AJ, I know you watched that game. Whenever that thing finally ends, 240, Eastern Time, and Freddie Freeman hits a dang dong to deep center there. What is your immediate thought?

Like, wow, I'm gratified with staying up for this. Is that what you said, AJ? I'm not going to lie. I did not see the 18th inning, but I did walk out. I checked in on it, and I saw it in the 14th inning. And that was the latest I did see. I did not make it to the 18th, but what a game. Hey, I'm actually very excited to watch Shohei pitch tonight.

Yes, very excited for this evening's. Maybe Show Hey, pitches 20 innings tonight. That would be craved. If there's ever a time to do it, it's tonight. What's his pitch count, Ty? What's the pitch count for him? It's World Series, bro. They'll let him throw a 19 inning.

They'll let him throw 100. Maybe more if he's really rolling. How many innings is that? Six, seven? Yeah, it depends if he's striking out. A lot of guys, probably, yeah, like five. How many was Yamamoto? His last complete game.

I don't know, over a hundred. Okay, good. Hey, did you know about Shohey's kind of tool belt? Pitchmix? What do you mean? his pitch mix you know when he has a penny sesh what he's able to do with the ball

do you know what he's capable of this evening in the World Series I do not actually I'm hoping one of you can explain it to me yeah so you know whenever you're you're doing a bullpen sesh as you as you will you know you're working on stuff and he's able to take that stuff

from the penny ses right to the big leagues okay he's able to take it to the mound he's able to take it to the bump yeah you can say the bullpen to the Yeah, the bump. He's able to get it up to the rubber. Yeah, he's able to get up there and do his stuff. 36 inches of vertical differences. Okay, it's got a four seamer, 18 inches north. Got a curveball, 18 inches south. That's 36. The angle? From the high slot, able to hit, put a sinker down on you. Okay, not a lot of people are able to do that.

Speaking of, east-west, you know, we're talking horizontal movement, 30 inches difference. What? Yeah, he's able to make it go. So we're talking about north, south, east, west, all over the place. So batters have no idea what's going on. And then when you look at him up there, you're like, holy shit, this is an icon living this guy. So he's got that presence like he's Randy Johnson up there, okay? Everybody's scared to death.

Holy shit. I'm about to be the next show bait on show Hayes, show real. And then you've got to deal with 36 inches north and south, 30 inches the other way. And what's coming, who knows? Maybe the splitter's about to drop out for the sky. It's a showtime. That's tonight. Yeah.

It's cool. Baseball is swinging a hot bat? They are. They are. And they're throwing a great ball. Yeah. Yeah. It's been unbelievable.

I mean, it really was last night. Thank God the Yankees aren't in this, right? Isn't that kind of the thought that people are saying? I mean, personally, I kind of like the Blue Jays. They're hard not. I love 5-8 guy. Gladdy's real cool. That guy's amazing.

Yeah. How about the 5-8 guy just bopping around? Alejandro Kirk. Me watching him running a bases. I'm like this guy. No way. this is supposed to happen. Type his name into the gift generator on X.

There's some good gifts of him rounded third base, you know, hustling out a double, you know, trying to score from second. There's some good gifts. Yeah, but dabadoo's type of stuff. Oh, yeah, big time. Oh, my God, I love everything about it. He now has the most home runs in a postseason with five tied with big

dumper from also this postseason. Oh, it seems like baseball. Has to catcher. Baseball's doing well. No, you didn't, but that's, yeah, baseball is doing well. Like you said, the stars are performing, which is the big deal, you know. you got something for wobble body

what happened yeah okay there it's rolling I wanted to post that last night after he hit his homer but I said you know what I think they're making fun of this guy with this thing so I'm not going to post that and I don't like it

me neither Bruce put it on this screen right here and just put it on a repeat it was running 13 times down here I get it forced me to look at it my eyes force it what's wrong it's clinic tape what's wrong with it dropped into my ear he's on he's on his on his

screen right now. He's on. He's walked down there and guess what's happening? This. Okay, yeah, I don't know if this... Motoring. Arm swing, leg drive. Look at the foot on the corner of the bag. Perfect. Yeah, it's like a foot on the gas almost. This guy coming around to bed. Yeah, they're not making fun of them. Thanks. Guy. I think they're making fun of them. It's going to stand up

inside the park home. I was going to say, I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing on that play a relay gunned him down by about 100 feet at home play. That's the Yankees. It's coming from Jazz World. Okay, so never mind. They definitely didn't throw him out at home if it was a goodsy Yankees. Never mind. Who's your left fielder?

Left fielder on that given day, I have no idea when that's from. Could have been Cody Bellinger, could have been Jason Dominguez. You don't think he gets them? No, without a doubt. Yankees don't do that kind of stuff. Greenlight all day for him. Especially against Kurt, dude.

Yeah, exactly. He's double shifting. Double clutching coming off of that thing. It doesn't need a light. It wasn't grandee shifting, I can tell you that. Good thing you can't run over to catch her anymore. Oh. Oh, look at him.

Center gravity. Lowman wins. I mean, he's coming. in exploding. Oh, yeah. Did you see Debo talking to his kid? Did you see this? Yes, James Harrison, yes.

James Harrison talking to his boy, who I've seen on the internet, not recently, I guess, within the last couple of years. He's huge. He is a absolute monster, his kid. And Debo is talking to him, and you see Debo actually saying, huh? Huh? Right here. Right here. He's really telling him they need to put his forehead through the guy's chin is what's

happening. And there's like a cell phone camera on it. And the commentary was like, Imagine getting advice from Debo as a high school or something. And then somebody commented, like, that's his son. So, like, imagine Debo being his dad as well. But then I was reading his lips. I'm like, it feels like he's telling him to explode through Adams Apple,

which that's football, baby. Yeah, he's a strapping young lad. Yeah, he's studied. Remember, they used to do push-up comments. Oh, yeah. That house. Debo's been on fire lately, too. What do you mean?

He's saying a lot of good stuff. He also came out. Didn't he come out? Yes, he did. And then he was very disgusted after. Why didn't he play? I did. Good question.

And that's what everybody in Pittsburgh saying. Yeah. We got Debo coming out of the tunnel. Kind of getting everybody excited. Let's, yeah, let's have him just. Get the pads on. Go ahead and do that. Yeah.

He knows what's about. What's it about? It's about the name on your back. You guys have the name on? I didn't see that jersey. And the name on your front. Is he stillers in the back? No.

And he said it's about both. Did he say these uniforms are shitty? Did you see those uniforms? Now, you're wearing Virginia Tech uniforms, eight colors, which... Beautiful thing. It's Halloween, so maybe. Oh, it is. Only team that has them.

And some would say maybe a reason. Yeah. That's because nobody can keep up with Virginia Tech. If God wasn't a hockey, why the leaves turn around the room right now? Yeah, you're right. That's great. Door and football season. That's a good point.

That's a good call. Hey, I'll tell you what, that's a good sell. That's a good sell. I don't know what the next coach is or who the next coaches. Needs to use that in recruiting, obviously. AJ, we talked about that. I don't think I heard what you had to say. The coaching, who's hiring?

Who are all these coaches? That's what I'm trying to figure out. There's going to be a lot of people I would assume hired that we don't really know who they are. And they're going to have to prove that you're a great play caller somewhere. I would assume more offensive guys get hired. But, yeah, I don't know, though. Like who, like who can we go after? I guess who can we, who of these guys is going to get recycled to another big job, I guess?

It's another question. Coach Hartline, right, probably going to be a hot name in this, if we had to guess with what he's done in Ohio State. Our buckle? Our buckle, certainly with what he was able to accomplish with him. Who's a North Texas coach? North Texas coach is scoring a ton of points, putting up numbers, I heard. Colin Klein. 600 yards the other day.

Yeah. What was it? What's his name? Colin Klein is the OC for A&M, who I was saying before AJ said North Texas had North Texas head coach, who I don't know. Eric Morris is North Texas head coach. I thought we were going to go do game day there. North Texas? I think they got Navy maybe.

Because Navy's undefeated, North Texas Has one loss for the AAC Yeah, I was looking You know, I don't make that decision I'm not a part of the decision That is not A tough decision this week That is not something I'm part of

I just go where I'm told Literally The thought of Head into North Texas Are they playing Navy this weekend Can we look that up? Yes, Navy North Texas I got pretty fired up about that

I'm like where the fuck is North Texas I have no identity Dayton, Texas. I did multiple games there. When Graham Harrow was the offensive coordinator, I worked multiple games there. It's a great spot. I could not wait to get,

just because every town I've been to in Texas is like awesome and hilarious in its own way, because it's Texas, you know? So it was like going to Denton, Texas would have been awesome. I mean, the shit I would have had a full, I mean, I was so excited. Then Navy getting an opportunity to go in there. It was like, all right, North Texas is a real thing. But to your point, tone, or to whoever just said it, AJ, AJ, I think it's like you do good you're going to get, they're going to try to get him.

Yeah. Who do you think goes maybe down? Do you think Chip Kelly goes back? Do you think Matt Patricia might, you know, get a head coach and offer? Do you think there's any of those that might go from pros back down to college? Have you ever met a guy that has been a head coach, then goes to being a coordinator, life very good as coordinator, gets offered a head coach and said no to that again, once you getting a chance to do it again? It feels like everybody gives in to the temptation of being a head coach again. Yeah, I mean, especially now with the money it is. I mean, it's crazy. But the coordinators are making $3 million.

Two million. It's crazy. So Dana Holgersons at Nebraska right now with Matt Rule. He has said that he's very much enjoying being a coordinator as opposed to being a head coach. Was head coach at West Virginia. Then he was at Houston. Now he's an offense coordinator with Riola at Nebraska. Now they obviously lose again.

And, you know, I don't think they have playoff hopes this particular year. I think that's going to be tough. but they're still going to grow. His name might come up in conversation, but he has openly said, like I'm really enjoying being a coordinator. Feels like that happens with coaches. Dan Quinn was doing it with Dallas.

We're talking about him going to Dallas. It's like, maybe Dan Quinn just says, I'm enjoying being a coordinator. Is it always just inevitably the amount of money that the head coach makes versus everybody else? And then to your point about coordinators nowadays, is that changing how people could potentially do it? I think it is, but I think the pride factor is still there too.

Dan Quinn did a hell of a job in Atlanta not let go, did a good job in Dallas. I'm going to prove you guys wrong. Got it. Yeah, I got you guys wrong. I got this. A guy like Josh McDaniels, though, that went, you know, coordinator, head coach didn't work,

coordinator, head coach didn't work. Now it seems like he might be on his, all right, I'm a coordinator. Whereas like a Cliff Kingsbury, he went, you know, O.C., head coach worked, but, you know, it worked out how it worked out in Arizona. and maybe there's other things we're seeing with Jacoby Percette now. And then, you know, now he's an awesome O.C.

Does he go back just because he's only done it once? Yeah, because he probably learned from his first round, too. Yeah, I assume as well. But allegedly last off season he didn't want to, allegedly he was like, I mean, timing, you know, that's a good spot where he's in. Like, if you're happy where you are, why not wait for the great opportunity that you want? Ben Johnson, right? Yeah.

Was it three hiring cycles? Oh, yeah. He was like, nah, nah. He had confidence in himself. He'd bet on himself, you know, because we see how quickly these guys. fall out of the interview cycle. If you're a hot commodity, all of a sudden, six months later, you might not be. Now, on that note about being a hot commodity, not being cold, Detroit Lions lost both of their coordinators last year from last year to become head coaches. And we actually

have a BA game ball. B.A. Why don't we start with the AFC, your first game ball coming out of week eight of the NFL season. My first one is Aaron. Glenn. Congratulations to your first one. We've been close a couple times and it was a final 23 to 7 in the fourth quarter they scored the Bengals and ruined my prediction that the Bengals would be in first place this week. Yeah, you were obviously hot on the Bengals

and obviously we all appreciate Joe Flacco. That game was outrageous to watch. And then the Jets come back. Obviously, Brise Hall throws that thing to Mason Taylor, I believe he moss is in the back. They get a win, especially apropos with Nick Mangold and the entire storyline there about the Jets and how all the Jets

Nation and football society was feeling on that particular day. Aaron Glenn gets his first win. Always remember it? Is that one of those things like you always talk about? You always remember your first. But for real, he will actually, right? You always remember that one, and I'm sure the guys gave him the game ball in the locker room, and you paint that one, and you put it in a very special place. Yeah, because it's been not easy. Okay, it's been not easy to get to this point. But to go back to Detroit, Foxy, what were you guys the first year that Dan Campbell was your head coach?

We started out 0 in 10, and year 1 ended 3, 13, and 1. And then in year two, they started out one and six and everyone wanted Dan Campbell out of there. It was a disaster to start that thing. And then after that one and six start, he got us to nine and eight almost made the playoffs, and then it's been history ever since. And they beat the Green Bay Packers the last game in the year

and knocked Green Bay Packers out of the playoffs in that particular year. And then since then, it's been number one seed Detroit Lions. Exactly. That was Aaron's last game as a Packer. Yeah, but that first year, you guys were 0-1-10. He cried right after the first win. Yeah, oh, yeah. He cried after the first win.

And I remember a lot of us going, can't be crying. He just won one game. And then what he was saying through his tears where like these guys, man, are working hard. Everything's good.

And then we just can't win and then we finally get rewarded basically is how he feels. I wonder if Aaron Glenn feels that way as well. I wonder if that's kind of what the... Because they were real close a couple weeks.

And then you finally get over the hump. Great half-back pass call. Breeze Hall pulls it down, throws it back. Touchdown. They win the game. So great way to win. Yeah, good for Aaron Glenn

getting it, though. Yeah. Hey, he gets a BA game ball. That's right. And for the NFC, the BA Game Bowl of the week goes to Anthony Nelson. Congratulations, Tom. Four tackles, two sacks, a forced fumble to pick six, fourth player in NFL history to ever have that stat line. Wow.

AJ, I watched your face as this name was unveiled. Same reaction as all of us. Don't think we all fully understood exactly who Tony Nelson was. But then B.A. starts reading off the stats, and he goes, if I was reading these stats and not say anybody's name, what would you say? You'd say game ball, right? Yeah, this guy went absolutely ham against his New Orleans Saints team. And his stat line, to B.A's point, has only happened a few times in the history. Yeah, I knew to start to finish because that force fumble came on the first drive for the Saints. Bruce, is this the greatest backup coming to game performance ever as well? Hashtag.

Stop that. Anytime you put in the history of next to your name, it's special. And this is only the fourth player in history of the NFL to ever do this. And hats off to Nelly, man. He's been a good player. But Hassan Reddick goes down. Time for somebody to step up big in a big division game.

Nelly did it. Yeah, shout to Nellie, dude. He was. He was ready. We knew he was. Where did school? Certainly did. He's from Waukee, Iowa.

And he was one of Kirk's dogs. He had a lot of success with the Hawks. So, yeah, you're kind of just biding your time. You know, you know. And when I see that happen, it's just like, oh, shit, here he goes again. I heard Lucas getting some valuable minutes. Speaking of Hawkeyes, just buying their time. He is.

He is, and it's about damn time. You know, unfortunately, with, you know, it's going to happen with Garza sometime. His first game of the season, he gets a headbutt about four seconds in, knocked one of his teeth out. And he also got a concussion. He's bloodied up pretty good, you know, because that's what Garza does. He's a junkyard dog. He plays like a fucking menace.

He had to meet him. He had to miss a couple games. Celtics. Boston Celtics. I did not know this happened. I just saw that he was playing for the Boston Celtics, and I was so happy for Ty, especially sitting next to Connor here in this entire relationship

and how the talks table could celebrate Luca Garza. Ty's been calling for Luca Garza to get some minutes on a good team for five, six years now, maybe seven, ten years. Yeah, well, you know, just to go over that real quick, there's a reason he's getting minutes for the Boston Celtics, because they're one and three. But yeah, stuff like this is why Boston

will still be Boston even when they are absolute shite. Do you guys stink? Look, it's a tough year right now. We're back to the drawing board. Got a win last night because Zion's already missing games, but you know, that doesn't matter. We are one and three.

Is that the Pelicans doing that or is that Zion? It was DNP, groin back, insert whatever bullshit you want. But he didn't play. But no matter what, Derek White still sticking his nose in there. We got other guys. that are going out playing their fucking ass off.

One guy, Tony Millett, I think it was his first game he's ever started. I don't know. It's not his name. But it was the first game he's ever started. He got a steal, dunks the basketball, hangs on the rim, hanging out, hanging out, hanging out, falls on his back, pretty bad. But he pops up, gets back on defense.

They asked Joe Missoula about it after the game. Joe Missoula said, well, he better get back and get on defense because if he gets hurt there, he's never playing for me again. It was awesome. Missoula's still got the boys, you know, rowing the boat, ski umah if you will whatever the fuck it is but there's a chance there's a chance here if we if we can just hang on for dear life the east is wide open it's really just the new york nix i don't think so brother uh sky umah have you heard about mac mcclung oh yeah we got furphy t j mccanall

mac mac mccl yeah we got a milk check coming to every town come watch fun put them in together put them in together they don't have a choice absolutely it the indiana signing guard, Mack McLung, do a multi-year contract. Greg Lawrence, Wassman tells ESPN. And with Mack McClung and Obie Topping on the same floor, there's a chance that they actually jump up and high five above the rim and then dunk the ball. Both Dunkin. Yeah, I mean, we're going to be good.

What are the Pacers? Pacers are good? No, they're shite as well. I don't believe that Carlis is the coach. We can't be shite. Yeah, they're real bad. We're going to sign Mac McClung. Exactly.

He hasn't played in a long time. Is he 0 and 3? Oh, yeah. It's going to be a long road. It doesn't matter, though. Pacers are 0 and 3. We had to have got one somewhere.

No. Not yet. Maybe tonight. The Spurs are the story of the NBA for the time being. Wemby's outrageous. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Stephen Castle, Stefan Castle, I never know. He's a superstar.

He's a rookie of the year. Now he's a dog. And their second overall pick, Dylan Harper had 20 points last night. and he plays with a t-shirt under his jersey and he looks really cool. So look out for the Spurs. We got a new Spurs Dynasty homegrown players growing. Yeah, because Wembe is a real deal.

Yeah, and all three of them drafted. Like, they're going to be a T. Actually, they got Deerrin Fox, we mentioned. All-Pro player, really good. They need to ship him out of town to get bench players because they don't need anybody else. Wembe, if he stays healthy, he'll be Otani. Wembe was shooting Logo 3s, wouldn't he? Pulling up.

He had a 360 layup last. night. He decided not to dunk it and he laid it in. It's hard for me around the rim because I always look at his feet and it's like, he's like D-bone and U-ball. You know, like he doesn't have to jump that high. His arms

are there. So for me, it's hard to be as impressed with everything. Now granted, he's that tall able to do all those things. That is the impressive feed-in of itself. When he's swatting everything and then he's grabbing it and taking it down the court, the length of the court, shaking people. Okay, he's

seven foot, what? What is? Seven, seven is what he's listed seven, four, seven, five, but Bobon said he's looking up at him and he's seven five. So think about how high that, right? Dribbling is like here. He's still growing. Yeah. Dribbling is like this high? Yeah, he's 21. Should be easy to steal because the amount

of... In theory, yes. Instead, he's like actually wiggling in like shaking back. It's like that's the shit that I also need you to know that they have another seven footer. His name's Luke Cornett, and they're calling him French vanilla together. So you just need to know that nickname.

Yeah, like this shit. That's 7.7. That's not supposed to happen, you know? And then there's times where he'll do a step back logo three after doing this shit. And it's like, so he's Steph Curry, too? I don't know you're allowed to do that. I don't know you're allowed to be Steph Curry as well through this entire thing. And NBA Central reporter, this is not Central.

It's Central because I double-checked because I thought it was bullshit. Allegedly this offseason, he was real pissed. Chet Holmgren won an NBA championship. and he used that as motivation essentially all offseason. That is a real thing. That's why he wanted a monks. I need to get this anger. Can you hit me with the thing?

Speaking of basketball, Rushmore on X. This week's episode is called PowerForwards. Obviously, Shaq, Reggie, Ben, and Ari debate the best four power forwards in the history of hoops. What an interesting conversation. We talk about the running back becoming the new tight end. The power forward is basically the tight end of the NBA. in listening to Shaq and Reggie discuss who is allowed to be judged as a power forward versus somebody who's just a forward.

I mean, it was great debate. Reggie Miller thinks about leaving the middle of the conversation. There's some controversy in the middle of this week's episode. Good episode, Foxy. The boys cut together a great one, and Ari and Ben certainly hosted a great conversation. Yeah, exactly. A lot of good discourse about what a power forward is, like the definition and all of that. like Shaq mentions the spoiler alert he says dirk newitsky not a power forward i disagree with

him but it's shack is one of the greatest fall time and then i will say the very end of the episode there's definitely a twist that i didn't expect at all that goes on the greatest route mount rushmore's yeah the show is very very good ari and ben uh have put together quite a lineup and uh shack and reggie i think they're a little loose in this is yeah sit down as they had uh for dunkers great conversation in basketball Don't look now, with Wembe being the future and the young stars and if Zion can stay healthy, maybe basketball is only growing into its best place you could possibly be with all the different deals it has. Or on the flip side, we learn more about what we learned earlier in the week and everything goes to shit.

Yeah, yeah. I'm scared of that. Don't love that. Certainly possible. But I hold on hope that the NBA is still a great association. in there in a great spot right now with their young stars in that episode of PowerFords is great nice trip down memory lane and that's

why the Spurs are so awesome because all their stars are 21 or under and it's going to be real hard for any of that bullshit with them well on that note the Paciers are going to be okay they're going to turn this thing around next year they're going to turn this thing around next year what if they get the first overall pick

you know because Tyrese is out and then you just get like it'd be really good well we know that's not how that's going to go because how is that lottery we're not getting into it not into it, not this week, not this. That's a good point. Wow, you're right. You don't add that, don't add fuel

to the fire. Dump that, dump that. There's no reason for us to get to that. There's no reason for us to get to that. Let's talk. Definitely random. Let's do something celebratory. Let's do something exciting.

Hell yeah. Let's do awards. Yeah. Let's do award season here at the end of October. Let's celebrate the hell out of the great that has been played this NFL season. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the all BAT. Yeah.

Now, Coach B.A was given the opportunity to pick one AFC person and one NFC person at a multitude of positions. And defense was just selected as a whole. There was also two coaches selected. Coach, why don't you go ahead and give your AFC and NFC coaches of the all-B-A team first? Yeah, with AFC, Shane Steichen, Jabi is doing at Indianapolis, just amazing with Daniel Jones, turning him around. and they've got that magic into building with Jim Mersey with his spirit, and they're doing a great job with it. In the NFC, I've got Todd Bowles, 6 and 2

with a plethora of injuries. Nobody needs a bi-week more than they do right now. So that is my two coaches at the halfway point. Congratulations, Matt. You will wait nothing other than this round of applause right here. Okay, let's go with the kickers, AFC and NFC, all-B-A-team kickers thus far. These guys are unbelievable.

They're so automatic. Brandon Aubrey, Dallas Cowboys. He's going to get a 70 to 75-yard or one of these jazz. Agreed. Unbelievable. And Chris Boswell, who is automatic on the worst field in the NFL. I mean, it's hard to kick in Cleveland. It's hard to kick in Pittsburgh. The grass is. The wind. Aubrey's in a dome, basically doming.

But what Chris Boswell does with Pittsburgh is just absolutely automatic. Just a pure swinger down there, Chris Boswell, and he'll go for it. I mean, he's swinging hard every single time. McManus misses from 57. short. He hits a 58 and the same game has to feel good. This is a 61-yarder first week to win against the New York Jets to start this entire Aaron Rogers era. They needed a 61-yarder. Here's him from 56, sorry, not 58 the other night, and terrible grass. It's just like he is

always making, there was a contract conversation going into the season. That's kind of simmered down. He's the guy shows up for you guys every single year. Yeah, you can pay him literally anything you want after this season is over. He is 14 of 16 on the season. His two misses is one, the slip at the end of last game because of the field and then a block. So he would be perfect on the season if it wasn't for those. And Brandon Aubrey, obviously, just redefining what you're supposed to be as a kicker, especially to start your career.

Murder's the ball, but always has a smooth swing. Never seems to be out of control and everything seems to be in range. Effortless. It's just effortless. And it's like, I can't wait to see him one second left, try that 70-some yard here. Especially with these balls. Oh, yeah. It's a good time to be a good kicker, you know.

If you have a strong leg, this is a good time to be a kicker, because of the balls. I was actually catching up with your boy, Jake, who used to be a kicker in the NFL. He said he was around whenever they were doing the brand new balls, fresh out of the box, into the game. And he mentioned about how it's like 10 to 15,

that's like 15, 20, I think, like actual 15, 20 yards difference, let alone height and everything else. So the fact that they're able to use beat up balls that they're bringing into the games, I think we're going to see some special stuff continue. Now let's go to defenses on the All-B-A team. AFC is...

Houston Texans, man, they are lighting it up on D. defense boy. And now the offense is waking up. Watch out for the Texan the second half of the season. Congratulations. Houston, Texas defense and the NFC side. Seattle Seahawks. Don't play them Seattle. That's for sure. This front four is killing people. How do you feel about the way McDonnell has kind of

turned this entire team around? They painted over to Wall. Did you hear about this? Oh, yeah. Painted over to Wall as a Legion of Boom. We're a whole new era. Kick Pete Carroll out. Get Gino out of here. Every, D.K. gone. Lockett gone. Everybody gone, basically, from the past. We're going to have to re-envision this, except for Schneider, who's been there for

both of them. I think I immediately was like kind of turned off by it. Like, hey, why are you painting over tradition? You're a franchise. You're a team. You're not like a college. Like, hey, this is a thing. I think he wanted to re-envision it. I think he wanted to do it in his way. And they certainly are. And the defense is outrageous up there and see it. Doing really

good job. He's doing a fantastic job. And Sam's so good. He is. He was there with the Vikings. Danny Dimes playing so good. We'll see if they make the all-BA team. Okay, let's go to the tight end. Obviously, it was National Tight End Day on Sunday. Who are the tight ends that have made the all BAT?

NFC, Tucker Craft. Big, big game Sunday night. Been lighting it up all year. AFC, this guy's a freak. Tyler Warren, unbelievable. Congratulations, boys. Oh, yeah. Hey, Tucker Craft's special talent.

Unbelievable. I mean, this guy could be a running back if he wanted to be. It's amazing. I think so. I think he could probably be a wide receiver too if he wanted to, which is perfect tight end, I guess. He runs so mad. He does.

And he takes their, like tush push snaps as well. They haven't done it yet this year, but he was always doing that. I mean, outside of Micah Parsons, he is their second best player. AJ, whenever you see Tucker Kraft play, what's the first thoughts as you watch? It feels like a throwback explosive freak show when I watch. Yeah, it does. Some of the stuff when he's rumbling and stumbled, it's like when Gronk used to get the crowd. When Gronk would break nine or ten tackles, like you would see what it does to a team.

Like this play, especially what it does your sideline. And when you're a defense watching like the film leading up to this game, you know your D-corner's like, hey, it's going to take all of us to bring this guy down, fellas. Make sure we're wrapping up and we need three, four, five, six dudes hitting them every single play. Yeah, just as a Patriots fan watching, it's the first time I've watched the tight end and been like, okay, that is actually

close to Gronk, just because, you know, Gronk and Kelsey, much different players when it comes to receiving and blocking. Kelsey, great blocker now. But Kraft is the one that's like, okay, this is actually Gronk 2.0 in the NFL now. And the Kipup just is, I don't

think that can really go understating for how big he is. Full pads too. Yeah, this and how quickly he does it. I mean, that's outright. I don't think everybody fully understands like the amount of athleticism and explosivity you need to have in your entire body to be able to pull that off.

If everybody could do that, they would. Look how cool that looks. That is just a different athlete. And then on the AFC side, boom, you got another guy that could do that, which I think is good for tight ends. Tyler Warren, this dude, absolute monster. We saw him coming out of Penn State. He was obviously the second tight end that went in

the draft. Everybody talked about that because Michigan's Loveland went. He has found a perfect home here in Indianapolis with Shane Steichen and Danny Dimes. Definitely. This guy's, like you said, he could be a wide receiver. You can put him back there and hand him to the ball. He can't understand it, run to push. I don't think he needs a push.

I think he can push it on itself. And yeah, outstanding, especially for a rookie. Always open, it feels like. Yeah. And I don't know if it's the hair, but he reminds me a lot of Jeremy Shockey. Oh, I don't mind that at all. If he's got the dog with Jeremy Shockey, which it seems like he does. The boys in a building say he's just ball.

All he cares about is ball. And we've loved him coming here to Indianapolis. He's always open, AJ. Always open and always bigger than everybody else around him. Always breaking three or four tackles. Like the first guy very, very rarely brings him down. Touchdowns all the time, too, except for this past week. Ain't that right, Bob?

Made my touchdown parley look like a fucking knob. We circled back last night. It hit a nice home run parlay for 12 hundred. Wow, 18 innings. That's a good one for Parlayer. Freddie Freeman was the winner at the end there. So a lot of people saw the Gumpy tweet that said, Freddie Freeman walk off here to win this thing's going to be so cool.

He said that in like seventh inning or whatever. And then people were circling back to that, obviously, in the 18th inning. He was just Gumpy was a little ahead of time. Gumpy was actually pushing for his home run parlay right there. All right, let me tell you what the world needs. We need Freddie Freeman to fucking hit one here. You need a big one because we can smash. Gumpy, first time I've seen you since Sunday not wearing dolphins gear.

just want to let you know that. I thought you were going to really run this one all the way up until Thursday with not many maybe left in this entirety. Well, Thursday, I'm going full gear because we got Thursday night football. So it's probably going to be that sick coat, tarp, hat, you know, maybe throw the pads on, I don't know.

Football pants. Yeah, why not? Get him some dolphins' pants, yeah. Okay, I mean, we'll certainly get that here. Dunby, I can't wait to see you wear those pants. So sweet. Yeah, we're the somers. We're sorry to.

Harrison tarp, so it should be good. The sambas, absolutely. Gumpby said, you know, you get victory week and they even cut it short. It's only four days. I don't even get to enjoy a full week. It only lasts until Thursday. Great, everybody gets going to the weekend happy if they won the week before. I got a Thursday night match

up against Lamar Jackson. Is that what's going on? Welcome back. That's great. Yeah, congrats you guys won. Let's celebrate now. We don't know if we'll have this on Friday and Halloween. Okay, so the tight ends are off the board. Let's head to the wide receivers, coach, Who is the All-B-A team mid-season?

The happiest guy to see Joe Flacco, Jamar Chase. Unbelievable. He's got like 40 targets in three weeks and unbelievable numbers. Just lighten it up. I think he had 10 catches again this week. Yep. And the guy's amazing. He's another guy.

Once he gets the ball in his hand, he is electric. Okay, so when you go All-B-A team, obviously you're not just going off of record in how the team is doing. Why Jamar Chase? Because if you had a team right now and you were to, to field it and you had to pick two wide receivers from this season, you would pick Jamar Chase is one of the two that you

would pick. Definitely. That is why he's on the all-b-A definitely. And he's doing it, man. He's one of the stars that's showing up every single week now. Not his fault. And they know that he's going to get the ball. And he's still absolutely killing everybody. He's gotten into that Justin Jefferson range that we kind of were talking about last year. Yeah, he's offensive

Miles Garrett. Bingo. Okay. Stuck. Yeah. But also took the check and knew what was going to happen. And has shown up for them. Yeah, always with injuries too. Good for Jamar. Okay, and in the NFC side.

Well, for a young guy to only have initials now, JSN. Yeah. I mean, he's already out there. He is lighting it up. Even Sam Darno have a great connection going. Jackson Smith and Jigba, the NFC all-BA team player. I think you should be allowed to do that, but obviously you get people like D-Bone that'll hang it,

have it go cock on, and they've got to stop the entire thing due to Hoosier's movie, line it back up. I think the NFL is trying to get away from that. But if you can showcase that you can just kind of base jump, thunk that thing and look real cool while hanging on a ref. You go ahead and do that. And that's a part of Jackson Smith and Jigba's game that we certainly like. And Jimmy Graham getting a little bit of love on a primetime game is certainly sweet as well. Coming out of Ohio State, everybody knew he was going to be a guy, AJ?

Yeah, I mean, they definitely expected it. And everyone in Ohio State always had great things to say, but to go out here and play like he has. I don't know if you could ever predict this. Congrats on making the all-BA team. Hell yeah, boys, maybe. Let's go with the offensive line boys now. Which offensive lines made the all-B-A team, B-A? No, the NFC at Detroit Lions.

I mean, they're playing lights out. Wow, yeah. Giving Jared Gough great protection. That running game is amazing. Yeah, absolutely. And I like that they play five or six of them in there sometimes. It feels like Dan Campbell's always going to have a good offense line. Remember, their first draft pick was Penny whenever they were building this entire thing up, kind of set the standard.

And he was a left tackle. They still have Taylor, Luan, and he's playing right tackle. shit he's out there leaning sweeps he's they're gonna throw him the ball one these times they got to throw the ball to him when he who'd up pittsburg sealers started through the other night 74 is like the first pass oh spencer yeah yeah it was pretty cool kind of hit he looked very natural he did and also i love aaron thrown i think it just pegged him right and it was just like broad side of barn yeah let me just go ahead and peg this guy with this ball i love everything about it i like whenever people get uh me too you know kind of creative detroit lines always have

I've also always had a very tough football team and congrats to their offensive line getting the All-B-A team and then the Indianapolis coach which are we all. Yeah, of course, the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, with J.T. when he's 100 and, what, 80 yards and 12 carries

or something shit like that? Danny Dimes lighting it up. Crazy. But those guys up front are playing. They got to stay healthy. They stay healthy. They're going to be hard to beat. I think B.A. was potentially watching

in trenches to do scoundary for the All-B.A. Because these two teams obviously been up there for the entirety of the season. And Foxy, congrats to your team's offensive line winning an all-b-a nod. Yeah, this is awesome, coach. Thank you. And if you remember before the season started, we were pretty worried about this old line because Ragnar retired, Zaitler left, and we had a lot of young guys in there.

So it's pretty awesome. Congrats to you as well. Thank you. Jesus. What type of place is? Well, you know what's been in my brain is like, AQ really hasn't given you guys a lot of respect, even though you guys are kind of on the list. You're never top one.

All-B-A day. It's all-B-A day. Okay, let's go to the running backs who are on the all-B-A team. I mean, probably two most explosive guys in league right now, Jemir Gibbs for Detroit Lines and Jonathan Taylor. Seems like the O-line and the running backs are going to go hand-off. Congrats, Pat, on your running back making the ALBA. Hey, Kegas to you too, Foxy, grandstander. Hey, AJ, did you think the O-line and the running backs were going to go hand-in-hand there? It seems to make sense. I thought, though, yeah, that makes sense.

They go hand-in-hand, why? Now, because this is Sonic and Knuckles not getting a nod here, obviously, on the LBA team. We don't want to cause any friction in the Detroit Lions locker room, but on that note, he is special. This guy's very dynamic, Jamir Gibbs. Especially in the passing game. He is a total mismatch. And even a wide flare turns into something every time he touches his ball, something spectacular can happen. Number zero looks cool, too.

It really does. Yeah, I thought he should have worn one. You want to make this tackle in space? Good luck. You go see. AJ, what are you going to do? You just got to shoot your shot there, right? I mean, so number eight, technically, in theory, number eight's inside leverage.

You got outside help. Like, you want to go through that inside leg and take a shot. Good luck. It's Jemar Gibbs. I don't blame anybody for that happen. Most humans can't run completely full speed towards the sideline. Stop, jump cut back inside, and still break eight more tackles. So they got Jemar up there.

Ammon Rae. Say, Brown. I mean, Armand Raw is, you know, 30, The yards downfield blocking on that first highlight. That's culture. I'll tell you what, man, it's pretty good. And then let's go to the AFC side running back all-B-A team. This got my winning MVP.

This got my winning MVP? They're talking about because there hasn't been like a quarterback that maybe has run away with it. Maybe this is the year that a non-quarterback wins the MVP. He's what, four games with three-plus touchdowns? He's all over the place, B.A. Unbelievable. I mean, again, Jonathan Taylor is also a great receiver. You can use him in the passing game, but 12 touches.

and a hundred and whatever 80 yards he had three touchdowns i mean that's that's just spectacular in the same and his celebration's cool that's good celebration's very very cool i saw a lot of people on the internet that uh maybe aren't as athletic uh throughout their life say hey i tried this and it like blew my quad and me yeah you get her if you get hurt trying that one yeah i didn't even think about that i mean every time i've done it i've done it like kind of in place i guess people are actually going full speed and then going in there and No, don't do it. Do not do that.

Yeah, we would like to send out a warning. Do not hit maximum speed before you just start to one hop that thing. Yeah, I have not done it. I haven't even thought about running and doing it. No. Maybe he should. And maybe that's because we have a different mindset of people that maybe aren't athlete.

Like, I knew my knees would shoot out from underneath there if you were going to hop on that, which makes it even more impressive. He drags people around. Then he, you know, let's make sure we flex out here. And the boys seemingly tighter. they've ever been age had a Halloween party last night you heard Danny dime's talk about it yeah pretty good attendance I heard right yeah he said he didn't

you want to keep tabs on it you know I didn't I didn't fucking count everybody I was a market everybody yeah that's like all right what he said good attendance I didn't take role yeah that's good we got good shit going on bro it's a real thing that's a real thing people probably would overlook but yeah like if you had very poor attendance to it a player led Halloween party like if I was the coach I'd like oh man we got to figure something about this is not good AJ I don't want to keep bringing it up but I'm hearing stories about the boys having beers with the boys okay like I'm hearing a lot of those stories and good as a 38 year old who grew up in a different time to AJ's point yes this is this is this is

just like cards this is just like cards like the more you can be around in interacting with each other at different states of mind hey at different states of mind is a good way to build up chemistry and trust, I believe, Coach Bea. Totally, yeah. One of the best teams I've ever been on was Steelers' Super Bowl team. There'd be 30 cars in the park a lot on Tuesday. They're in the locker room, shooting hoops, playing cards.

Nobody's watching film, but they're all in there together. Offense, defense, because they cared about each other. Yeah, you need that, A.J. I hope that never leaves in this isolated, disconnected world. I don't think it can in football. I think you have to have a relationship. But, man, whenever you hear about your team liking each other, I think people would need to take it

a lot more serious. We've been talking about it for like seven years, I think, on our show. Like, hey, that looks like they like each other. That's a big deal. And I think people thought that we were giving like elementary level opinions on things. And it's like, no, no, no. I think that means actually more than a lot of the shit that you're talking about, actually, in a team sport, AJ.

Yeah, because times, like, things will get tough. And every game, there's usually at least some kind of point where you can kind of go one way or the other, like the defense can get pissed at the offense because the offense isn't doing anything or vice versa. and if you like each other and you hang out and you actually know each other well, you'll make it through that and be fine and you'll be laughing about it after the game. Like if not, that's when you get that infighting

and you've got to have a stupid player's only meeting the next day and all that stuff. Whoa. Those players only meeting are right around a corner. Yeah, they are. Hey, we're almost in players only meeting season. I just, oh. I just got pretty excited about it.

Somebody's having one next week. Yeah. One, week nine coming up? Yeah. We're here. Yeah, I forgot. They had one, right, did they? Kind of.

Yeah, because they had to apologize for things that they said publicly. What other teams might? Somebody's defense just had one. Who's that? I'm not sure. There was a team that I think today, yesterday had a team. Somebody's defense. He just looked at him.

Is that true? Maybe. I don't know. I think it was Steelers, though. No, no. Sir heard somebody doing it. I think, you know, players. Players gather as units, I think, on a regular basis.

It's the whole ceremonial, hey, we're all meeting in team meeting room. No coaches. It's going to be us. That player meeting, I think, is the one that we're all referring to here. Whenever that starts happening, fucking mail it in. It's over. Definitely. I just got a word.

Since I had a defensive only player's only meeting. Nice. You knew it. Didn't want to give it away. Didn't know what all was playing. public, that's B.A. saying something, going, oh, fuck, we don't know about this yet. Okay? Maybe. It didn't happen. No, it did happen since I had Bengals. Hey, that's good inside. And for the Bengals, by the way, their starting rookie linebacker got hurt.

So Logan Wilson, unpack your bags. You're a Cincinnati bangle, baby. Unbelievable to think about what's going on in Cincinnati. All offseason, we talked about how they built their roster. Hey, you guys can't win like this. Everybody talked about it. Didn't everybody talk about it, AJ? I think everybody. They might be the last one standing in the AFC? They might. Yeah, okay, B.A.

Whoa. 47 years of football. So Trey Hendrickson's out now. They got a middle linebacker who, I mean, he'll play his ass off because he wants to get the fuck out of Zinzee. And then who else do they have on defense? I mean, they might. They had a meeting.

They might win 45 to 40 going forward. That sounds like AFC North Ball now. AFC North Ball right now might look vastly different if you're listening to B.S. or no BS with BA. every coach is on a hot seat he says up there but there's no hot seat in Indianapolis at the running back position or the offensive line. Shout out to the Colts

being on all the awards office. This is really good because for a long time we're on the wrong end of the highlights. That's what the Colts were for a while. Now we're on award season. And let's go to the leaders of the team. Who are the quarterbacks

on the midseason? All BA team, B.A.? Yeah, we're going to go with a little young and a little bit of veteran. Drake May and doing the Patriots is playing great football. Got them in first place. And shout out to Josh McDaniels.

He's actually got him playing really good ball. And then Matt Stafford, at his age, still slinging it, carrying the Rams maybe all the way to the playoffs. Congratulations, boys. Go boys. Conman, it's not just you that's seeing it now at this point with Drake May. That has to feel pretty good as a Patriots fan. Yeah, it's great.

Everybody's kind of bumping their gums on TV now talking about them, which is awesome, and just regurgitating the same stats over and over again. but Josh McDaniels, to B.A.'s point and Mike Vrable, you know, I think they've just given him a lot of belief. He's always known he could make every throw maybe last year. He didn't have that. Basically the same roster. You draft a, you know, left tackle who Will Campbell, you know, it's only up from here because Miles Garrett's as good as it's going to get for the rest of time possibly. So very excited about the offensive line. And left guard, Jared Wilson. Kind of a sneaky part of this entire offense. AQ will not shut up texting me about this

left guard. He's a rookie from Georgia. He's been fantastic. Offensive lines good. Drake may spinning the pill. And, you know, as we approach trade deadline, you start to think, like, who do we need? Who do we need? We might not need anybody, to be honest. Just kind of have to stay healthy. We have not allowed one 50-yard rusher yet this season. That's unbelievable to hear. Shout to Vrable turned the entire culture quickly. And Drake May continuing to become an absolute monster in the league. Remember him and Josh Allen hung out? And everybody thinks about like what the size, the athleticism, everything that he has. If he's able to go on the same trajectory

as Josh Allen, we're talking about a new great. Well, it seems like we're only a couple years into this case study. Feels like he's on the same trajectory, AJ Hawk. Yeah, Drake May. They found their guy. I think with Josh McDaniels, it's really, like, he looks very, very comfortable. It looks like he owns that offense and he knows what he is doing.

Like, he is anticipating these throws, and he looks awesome. Congrats to New England. You guys got a guy. Hell yeah. He's 23. That's the most exciting part. like everybody this year, you know, no matter what the season ends like, he's 23 years old. It's Rable's first year as a head coach. I think we have the most cap space next year or the year after.

So it's just one of those things you know that you're going to be great for a little bit now. Drake's 23 years old? He's 23 years old. This is second year in the NFL? This is his second year in the NFL? How old is Diego Pavia? 24. How old is Tyler Shuck that just got drafted?

26, I believe, or 25? How old is Jaden Daniels? He turns 20 or I think he turns 24 or he is 24 or he is 24? now, I forget. So Drake is wildly young. Wildly young, and he's already very good. And something he mentioned actually was, you know, everyone talks about seven-on-seven being bad ball.

If it's good for anybody, it's quarterbacks because they know, you know, how to attack cover two, cover three, all those different types of zones. And that's what he kind of attributed to when it came to like... Oh, like growing up? Yeah, exactly, growing up, throwing those like little hole shots that you see, the deep balls especially. I mean, he's the best downfield pastor in the NFL.

Everybody's talking about I have to think and dunk. You don't if you have to think and dunk. have a guy that can hit every single deep ball when the chances present themselves. Mike Vrable gave this whole entire thing like on the sideline before the play. They were doing the touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. And Mike Vrable was like, relax.

And then, you know, 10 seconds later, it's a deep ball touchdown to Kishon Booty. Unbelievable culture change up there in New England. Congrats to them being all the way back. And then you talk about the young guy, 23 years old in his second year already. Let's go to the old guy. Drafted his same draft class as me, 2009. Number one pick overall.

I was 222. This guy's outrageous still what he's doing. Looks young still. Looks fresh as it's coming off his hand. Yeah, I mean, he spins it. Like I said a couple weeks ago, he's the only guy to go out and watch warm up. I literally, a head coach and sister, I'll go out and watch Matt warm up because he threw balls that nobody else could throw.

Still doing it. It's like the Dano story, he told you. Just amazing. Yeah, Dan Orlovsky's similar things. But everybody, yeah, whenever allegedly Stafford told Orlovsky, you can make that throw, okay? Nobody can make this throw. And that was what Matt Stafford was able to do. He's got a gunslinger mentality.

He's incredibly tough. He's old school. Bears with the boys type guy. And with Sean McVeigh, it seems like a perfect fit. And now they got Devante Adams in tow, AJ Hawk. I mean, it's a beautiful setup out there. Is this guy going to play forever? Yeah, he just might, especially with Devante in the red zone too, man.

I know they love talking about what off-platform throws and the arm angles and everything. But the more you watch, the more impressive, I think it is, especially with this. I mean, just look at that. thing, like how he can throw and his feel for where defenders are and how he throws dudes open, it's next level. Yeah, Matthew's been doing it for a long time. And now, for the first time, he's on the all-B-8. Oh, yeah.

Congrats, man. Congrats, everybody. Congrats, everybody on this team. Obviously, we take this squad over anybody out there. And, B.A., thanks for putting thought into that. Congress, all these guys. They will certainly win nothing, but a big-time round of a pause. Right, B.A?

Oh, that's it, baby. That's all you get. A big one, though. Yeah. Hey! AJ, please, AJ. Hey! It's your award. Yeah.

I'll say we didn't give you nothing. It's just like you told Danny Dimes. They haven't done shit yet. I do text Danny Dimes every week. Every week. Congrats, man. That was so fucking cool. God, you crushed them.

You haven't done fucking anything. Just texting and then the next text. You haven't done shit yet, but you're smelling a little better. Yes, you want. And on that note, we got a guy who's really, he was once a pioneer in a game in his Thunderdome. And then he's changed his style to no longer be a pioneer. He's just amongst the others. And he is trying his absolute best to become the greatest.

And DeBone, why don't you come out here and try to win some people, some money here? Last week he threw one off the backboard, off the brick, off the backboard, and then splash. And he did that on purpose. And now, today he is dressed spectacular. I mean, he looks amazing. Cowboy, how you doing, bud? He's got the boots on, got the shit kickers on. I just got a camphalge hat. And, you know, we're getting to the weather where he can wear the overcoat if he needs it. He had vest and hoodie and overcoat on yesterday. First big man I've ever seen that's overdressing everybody else in a place, but he is a special talent. This guy can put together a graphic now, like a motherfucker. This guy's a true talent. And we saw last week that maybe he can have God bless his ball to fall into the hoop. But I think what we had last week that we need this week, B.A. Is there any way that you can try to motivate this boy right over here, wearing these shit kickers to throw that U-ball into that eight-foot-high hoop over there? And if he's able to accomplish that, 25 people will win $500 on this glorious BA day.

Okay, brother, now you had the shot of shots last week. We don't need that shit. All right, just straight in. Fuck it. Just make that damn thing. Fuck it. Deboat, 25 people. $500.

That's minus one point. Man. Thank you, DeBone. Did he hit the brick on the far right side? Yeah, he did. Come on, son. He could shoot it. He actually had a good, like when he actually shot it, he made it up.

Come on, son. One more shot, Deep Bo. Here you go, Bone. Come on, son. Why are you throwing it still? Because you want to be a pioneer? Is that what you want to do? You want to continue your life as a pioneer?

He used to throw it. He used to throw it. Actually, a lot of people attacked him for throwing it early. Turns out not a bad style. Yeah. I actually utilize it as one. of my three throws much like show hey i have a array of different throws in you ball but he he had been shooting this particular ball coach he seemingly changed his shit whenever there was a little

bit on the line how do you feel about that coach that that's shaky that's shaky but i think you've been practicing a little bit i've seen you all right how you got this shit bro do it fucking 25 people five hundred dollars debone oh oh sir all right tracking maybe tomorrow maybe next week uh we We appreciate the hell out of you, D-Bone. And before we get out of here, we have to make one special moment for somebody very special in our lives. Ladies and gentlemen, this man is a New York Giants fan. This man is a New York Yankees fan. He's a New York Knicks fan.

I think he also likes some other sports that are over there that aren't good. He's taught him hot Spurs fan. He's been in the middle of some shite for a while. Every day he comes in, though, with the same quiet attitude. Yeah. And his vibe's always immaculate. He works his ass off. And his hair is finally getting a chance to kind of peek off.

Yes, it is. Ladies gentlemen, we have a birthday today. Happy birthday, Bruce. Wow. Hey, Bruce. Thank you, boys. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Dee. Happy birthday, Dee. Bruce Happy birthday to you I almost said Matt Yeah

Happy birthday Matt Happy birthday Matt We have a birthday every day this month It does feel like A lot of cakes coming in A lot of cakes coming in Yeah a lot of October babies in here

But thank you boys I appreciate it very much So you're not October's very Everybody's kind of October But on that note We're fucking thankful to have you buddy Happy birthday Birthday

Thank you man Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate all you guys. This next year of your life is about to be the coolest. Oh, yeah. As we forecast. Big 30, baby.

Here we go. You just turned 30? Yeah. Oh, no. Connor, tell them. I pull the muscle coughing driving into work purse. Welcome to 30, brother. That's 30.

I know it, brother. No, but there's good coming, too. There's good coming too. Oh, yeah. Of course, right? Yeah. Prostate exams. I just turned 73 and shot my age again.

Boom. Happy birthday, dear. It's going to be a while before you shoot your age, so, Beck. yeah more than you can imagine happy birthday bruce we appreciate you all right let's get the hell out of here oh go ball great ball hey not bad there that was in i'll tell you what i did have a thought man fucking quarterback whisper is literally right behind me sure would be sick to make this right now tomorrow better day though boom be a friend tell a friend something nice and might change your life

we're in this thing together. Team on me. Coach, anything you say? Great show. Better win next week? Hell yeah. AJ, we'll see you tomorrow. Team on three.

One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.