The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1442 - Happy Halloween, NFL Week 9 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys celebrate Halloween as they recap last night's Thursday Night Football game that saw the Ravens absolutely demolish the Dolphins, resulting in the Dolphins ...and GM Chris Greer mutually parting ways, before they preview both this weekend's college games, and pick every week 9 NFL game against the spread. Joining the show to chat about last night's Thursday Night Football game and what he's expecting from a couple of matchups this weekend is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky. Later, 7x National Champion, the GOAT, College GameDay co-host, Nick Saban joins the show to preview this weekend's slate, chat about the LSU job and all the drama surrounding it, Vanderbilt emerging as a true threat in the SEC, his thoughts about the Dolphins, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our spooky humble abode. The Thunderdown on this field good. Happy Halloween Friday, October 31st, 2025. This program begins now. Football is magical, and obviously last night, week nine of the NFL season kicked off in a beautiful fashion with Lamar Jackson going absolutely apeshit in his return to football this season and also his return back home. He throws for four touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Now, my name is Peter Neverville. Okay, and I've been covering sports longer than you, so I know sports longer than you. I am an old sports media man, and what I see from Lamar Jackson is holy shit good. This type of guy has the opportunity to not only be an incredible leader, he should get those ping pong tables and cornhole boards out of our locker room, but also he has the ability to spin that thing, and if you need him run, obviously he's going to be faster than you. So whenever you think about Lamar Jackson, you're talking Mount Rushmore type guy, and if you disagree with me, you're wrong. I don't ever think I've ever heard an argument against mine that I've ever liked, and that's certainly going to be one that you can classify under. If you say Lamar Jackson is a Mount Rushmore type player.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Now, that was on display while the other side of the field was looking like ash cheeks. And whenever you talk about old ass cheeks of a team, you start to talk about teams that maybe win by 30 against a team. And then the next week, just a few days later, get absolutely decimated. Now, the stats in the first half weren't bad, but there was a fourth and two here in clear field goal territory. Now, kick her head and miss the field goal already at that point. But fourth and two, let's go to our best play. You got it. What is it?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Obviously, fade to the running back. So that is something that nobody really enjoyed. I think a lot of people potentially turned the game off at this point. Now, the dolphins were moving down the field. They get to that position. They get no points. Is there going to be something that maybe happens with the Miami Dolphins? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Chris Greer, General Manager and I believe President of Football Operations is down there. A lot of power at the Miami Dolphins. He's gone. He's been there since 2016, I do believe. So almost 10 years of service with the Miami Dolphins. And he has since been relieved of his duties after last evening. I think he should have played a little better last night. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I think he should have done a little bit better. When you think about Chris Greer football, you don't necessarily say like, hey, the team's going to be what we think. But this guy went all in with Tyreek Hill. This guy went all in with McDaniel. This guy went all in with Tua. This guy had a lot of things happen
Starting point is 00:02:19 under his leadership, but there was a time where we all thought maybe they were going to be great. There was a time they scored 70 against the Denver Broncos defense. There was a time where McDaniels, was super cool. Remember those are good times. Oh yeah. And now last night all we watched was Stephen Ross with binoculars.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Okay, looking down and going, what the hell's going on out here? We stink. And then he turned those binoculars right over to the suite next to him where that general manager was. Why is this happening? And then he goes back here and then he goes over here. He goes, we need to get this guy the hell out of here. So whenever you think about last night's game, it's a team that is not have a winning season in the Baltimore Ravens, potentially turning it around completely and looking like the team that we thought they could be. defensively getting some stops. Defensively getting some stops. Defense making some plays,
Starting point is 00:03:05 a couple of turnovers. Okay, now we're having a good time. Congratulations to Baltimore Ravens and to the sports books who predicted that Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens were going to return whenever he was healthy enough to play. Let's go to the talks table for their thoughts.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We have Harry Potter and Heavenly Hulkster. Heavenly Hulkster, thank you so much for making appearance. I hope you've got a chance to experience all the love that was sent you away when you passed away. And I hope you got a chance to watch that game last night,
Starting point is 00:03:32 Heavenly Hulkster. What were your thoughts from above? Well, dude, I'd just like to say, great being back. Obviously, you said, you know, I did feel a lot of love.
Starting point is 00:03:41 There were also a lot of people out there who maybe, you know, were pissing on the Hulkster when he passed away. But will and behold, you see the Angels Wigs. You see the Halo. Turns out St.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Peter is one of the biggest Hulkomaniac of all time. I guess we should have kind of put two and two together. once we saw the halo and everything. Congrats. I guess that's kind of the big question whenever you're on Earth.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, exactly. I go up there and, you know, I'm thinking, hey, am I going to be waiting around? You know, what's the deal? Boom. St. Peter immediately. I see a real American. And he's just drilled me with questions
Starting point is 00:04:19 about WrestleMania 3. How'd you body slam Andre, dude? How'd you do it, dude? We talked for about 50 minutes and then he said, you know what, Hulkser? I got something for you. boom, look at these beauties.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You usually got to wait about 150 years living beyond the pearly gates to get a big pair of Angels wigs like these. St. Peter said, uh-uh. That's all a big pair, because you're obviously a huge guy. It was a big pair of wing wings. Big, dude, exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So, yeah, you know, the holsters doing pretty damn good being at the big Hogan hangout in the sky. And I would say, you know, we got every single football game on the TV. My big takeaway from last night, is boy the dolphins fucking suck two of sticks are you allowed to say that in heaven i didn't know that's kind of the thing dude
Starting point is 00:05:07 you can do whatever you want up here i'm certified platinum when i got these wings of this halo brother uh usually yeah obviously there are situations whereas as i was going to say i better take it easy because the halo's starting to slip a little bit you say dropped an f-bogg did i yeah i apologize dude uh i'm just i'm just i'm just in a great mood, you know. Obviously, me and, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:33 around Clearwater Beach and dolphins are my team, one of my teams, and it's time to just rebuild the whole thing. So, yeah, it was an okay game, but you, I mean, you know this, dude. When you're in Hogan's hangout, especially the one beyond the pearly gates, once this game
Starting point is 00:05:49 got poopy, like you mentioned, see, I got meatloaf coming in, I got Ozzy Osbourne coming in. You think I wouldn't rather listen to those guys congrats for that. Shred on some actions. By the way, that's huge news. Sorry, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Some of this stuff may seem to be breaking news. Just another Monday night at Hogan's hang out of the sky for me, dude. Great football game, though. It was a great football game for the Baltimore Ravens. Lamar Jackson is back. Harry Potter, your thoughts on the game last night and how it compares, I guess, what's the sport? Quidditch.
Starting point is 00:06:21 All I can really think is, well, that LaMalle Jackson would have been wonderful in the quidditch broom. Truly, I'm a little emotional just being next to the hoaxer. I'm so happy to see him. I can't believe that. Then he's in heaven, and he got his wings already. Hey, Harry, remind me, because I'm a huge fan of what you do, the wizardry stuff. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's so cool. Thank you. I mostly watch sports more than you, and I know more than you about it because of that. Yeah, sure. So I certainly have that particular angle about myself. But for some of us that maybe haven't seen a lot of Harry Potter, what country does Harry Potter hail from? Well, yeah, I'm a bit of a British bloke.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm trying to find the accent here, going into Luke Littler a little bit, trying to kind of think of the scowsers a little bit. It's an English lad, if you will, but I fancy the football last night. What is you, you're a wizard, like what Lamar Jackson's able to do outside the block in there? Exactly. I'm just like Lamar. A little bit of one of one, if you will. It was a fantastic football game. I'm very happy for Gump's to have his GM finally fired. I know he was excited about that. And I like what I saw out of young Mike McDaniel. I thought he was quite a lively chap on the sidelines. It was much different than we usually saw. And I wonder if his team hates his guts even more. Because he was yelling at him. Okay, so you're saying maybe a little bit different than what we had been like on a sideline. Anytime the locker room sees you change the way you act, that means, oh, it's not working.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You don't even believe in the stuff that was happening. And the people that can tell if it's real or if it's fake, and to be honest, McDaniel might be fed up. And that might be why he starts getting a little bit more lively on the sideline. And then there's going to be people that say, is he going to get a little bit more accountability driven as he understands that his days might be numbered at this point. There's a Miami Dolphins head coach. There's only 32 head coaches in the NFL. This is one of the jobs. Now, Miami, are you ever going to be able to win in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Since my time covering this thing, Dan Marino, what are you doing? You go back to 72, obviously. I was there. I was 18 whenever that was taking place. And I saw that team go undefeated. And I thought, wow, this city, this weather, this team, this is going to be what it's going to be like forever. What I didn't realize was there comes a lot of distractions with that city, that weather,
Starting point is 00:08:45 that situation. And I think in football, it takes a lot of people. It takes a lot of people to really be all going in the same direction. I think it's going to be very difficult for the Miami Dolphins to win strictly because of how awesome that entire area is down there for everything but football. I think that is a real thing to talk about as a young or old sports media person like I am, Peter Neverville. But on that note, that offense, that team, they were supposed to win.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's kind of all gone to hell. And now McDaniels chewing people out on the sideline. to our coach for today. Let's go to Super Bowl champion. Yins are a legend. Coach Bill Cowher. Coach, now, coach, great to see him. How about it, man.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Thank you, boys. Coach, you saw a little fire out of McDaniel last night. Were you impressed or what were your thoughts on last night's game? Tell you what, I am a Super Bowl winning coach. 15 years for the black and the gold. Hall of Fame, let's not forget about that. You read about that in my book, Heart and Steel. Okay, you kind of got a little Dr. Phil book-sown ability to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah, situation. Pretty good. You know, if you know anything about me, I don't love the cut of Mike McDaniel jib with all those things flapping around his shoes and whatnot in the, is he wearing corduroys or what do you call those?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Joggers? Joggers. Didn't love those. He just didn't have what it took last night. Neither did, too. A Tua looked like New Old Donald throwing them two interceptions in 1995, Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:09 On the other side, though, Lamar Jackson looked like a young slash, a young Cordell Stewart running around out there. It was very impressive and yes, the Ravens are fully back and they are going to win the air. AFC North. Man, Cordell Stewart,
Starting point is 00:10:20 10 years maybe before his time? Yes. 10 years maybe before his time? It would have been spectacular. Oh, my God. You're talking about punt return, wide receiver, quarterback, play safety if you need it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Guy was unbelievable. And when 10 was on the field, every play was alive. Feels like that with Lamar Jackson. Let's go to longtime sports and weather reporter. For your local news, he's on your side. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:10:44 Edgar Samson here. Ah, good. Good, brother. How you doing, Edward? My name is Edward Simpson, no relation to OJ, but yes, thank you, Pat. Oh, I thought it was Edgar Sampson. No, Edward Simpson. You got very close to him?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Zero relation to OJ. You think when people see you, they would think immediately, you know what? That might be the juices, something later that. If they see me run a couple routes or maybe take a handoff, they do think that. Got the same jaw? I like your pizzazz. Yeah, they do kind of have a similar jaw and strength. There is a glaring difference, but there is maybe, you know, who knows.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I see it. The difference is all I'm saying. I'm saying you don't look like the juice, dude. Yeah, and he's in heaven. Remember that. Yeah, you see the juice. You see the juice up everything below. Edward Simpson, let's go back to what you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:32 No relation. What did you see from Baltimore, maybe on the defensive side that makes you think they could go on a run and are warranted of being the AFC North favorites to win the division? Well, I think Chuck Pagant, you know, think about it. Chuck Pagano. He's got to.
Starting point is 00:11:47 them figured out, Kyle Hamilton playing all over the place. You see him moving around. Offense really can't get a beat on where he ever will be. He can blitz. He can cover. He can play in the box like he's a linebacker. I think they're, I think they're looking pretty good. Now, you might say, hey, this Dolphins offense may not be the best offense in the league, but hey, you still turn the ball over. You still played well and got a win on Thursday night. So they obviously is fourth and two call. We're going to keep playing it just because what happened. Chris Greer might have called this play Don. It might have been one. It happened. Shepter has reported that McDaniel is
Starting point is 00:12:16 going to remain the head coach for the rest of the season. That announcement was made alongside the Greer firing a general manager. I'll tell you what? Hot dog would happen last night. Lamar Jackson goes down to Miami and maybe saves the city, you know, maybe changes the future of the dolphins. Let's go to the back room. Old Florida man back there. Florida man, old gambling, look like partially dice player, maybe corrupt. Is that Carl Havoc? It does appear to be Take this thing off
Starting point is 00:12:48 What are your thoughts on the Miami Dolphins State currently brother? Chris Greer obviously let go from the Miami Dolphins Effective immediately, which we don't know what that means. And McDaniel to be the head coach for the rest of the year and Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens get back on track against your guys' team. How do you currently feel
Starting point is 00:13:06 Old Florida man? Chris Greer definitely had to go. It was a massive mistake. He was there way too long. As for how they played, The defense played really well, and the offense has been shite, and that is the problem when two is making the most money out of anybody. You talk about shite. What's right next to you there?
Starting point is 00:13:23 I see some big old butt cheeks on top of somebody's head. What's going on back there, sir? E, A, G, L, E, S, Eagles! Go, birds. Push that, tush. Push that. Okay, so that's what we thought we were seeing there. A little niki.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Those are ass cheeks on your head right there? Yeah, my favorite playing football is a tush push. Nobody can stop it. he can beat it. The Giants can't stop it. The refs can't stop it. What? And you, Goodell, you can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We're the best team of football, go birds. Okay, so in front of you, I see one of the teams you called out. I see the shirt you're wearing, too, the thanks giant shirt with Sequin doing the, uh, the whoop-y-woo over a guy. The lion's running backs are on his head. What's that? Oh, no, remember. Easy.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They're not ass and cheeks anymore, coach. Oh, I forgot. That was week one. Yeah, it was just week one. Sorry. Now of a sudden they're MVP candidates. Now that's what they got going on. So they're the opposite of what's on that man's head back there,
Starting point is 00:14:17 that particular John back there. But right in front of him is massive Giants legend in the making and superstar. I do believe Jackson Dart, how's it feel about a man with ash cheeks on his head being able to dunk on you, rightfully so? Oh, what up, coach. Yeah, I'm Mormon dog, so I don't know much about pushing tushes. But I just hate losing. My boy, Scott, we're going to miss him, dog.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But got to get back in the wind call him, for real, man. Hey, Jackson, can you look at the camera so we can make sure everybody understands the accessorizing that was taking place here? We got multiple chains on two here, Jackson, don't we? Oh, yeah, dude, I got the drip, dogs. 4-4 and 6! In the truck!
Starting point is 00:14:57 Hey, Ed Simpson, that is something that is going to be able to happen for seemingly the next 10 years with Jackson Dart. Feels like he's actually going to be their franchise guy next. Doesn't it feel that weird? Yeah, they found their guy. I don't know if he would appreciate the representation that Bruce is giving of Jackson Dark.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Well, do you think, well, I guess you're Edward Simpson, so you're not impersonating anybody, but if you think, actually, you kind of are. Do you think whoever you are drawing inspiration from right now is feeling disrespected by how you're up? There may be a few people that think I am targeting them, but no, I'm, it's a conglomerate of a bunch of people that I have, you know, that I am, I guess. Draw inspo from all over the place. That's what you do whenever you've been around as long as I have, Peter and every. Yeah, me too. I've been around, not quite as long as you, but, you know, a few years. Wait, who are you again?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Me? Yeah. Edward Simpson. I thought you were Ellen DeGeneres. Oh. You know what? I see where you're going with that. She lives in my neighborhood. That's what I've heard.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We hate over there, too? No, no, no. Obviously, yeah, a lot of heat on the way out with the Internet for sure. I mean, the run she had, though, with that show. Just think about it's people that do daily shows here. The run that she had on that thing was outrageous. I mean, it was like the blueprint for what shows were. and then that all kind of just really...
Starting point is 00:16:13 You've outlasted her, Peter. No, no, I've not. She was a... Yeah, I guess Peter and Everville has, but I remember I'm yelling into a microphone in a small... Me and Ever Simpson doing the same thing. We remember a long, long time in this business.
Starting point is 00:16:26 We don't like what's happening nationally. I'll tell you that, do we? Not at all. It's a bloody mess. I mean, don't get into the real details of things. For instance, easy conversation. Michael Jordan's the best of all the time. That's why I'm wearing these, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Look at the shoes. You think I'm old. then boom, I'm wearing 23s. Look at the shoes. I'm cool. You can relate. Young kids relate to that, yeah. Yeah, I'm Jordan, though. Go ahead. What? Debate, moron.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Here does 40. See, I will take Michael Jordan in that debate. You know that. You're right. That is how this would go. That is exactly how this would go. And that's why these young kids that do TV and stuff have no idea what they're doing. No clue.
Starting point is 00:17:04 We did that for what. I mean, they're talking about talking about other sports. Yeah, right. Imagine them working a green screen. They could never work a green screen like me and you can. Yeah, that's right. And having to look off camera, there's a screen over here,
Starting point is 00:17:15 and it's like you're in a mirror, you know, like you, who, who, which, and you know, these youngs can't handle that. They can't handle that at all. And why are they even watch these other sports? Braun Jordan can carry the first hour of every show. What are we even talking about? And then guess what? What the Dallas Cowboys do?
Starting point is 00:17:35 We'll tell you. Jerry Jones, Kay, went on the record and said, And, hey, listen, it's hard to really care right now about what's going on on the gridiron. Okay, I love my cowboys. Everybody knows I love my cowboys. There's a hundred billion dollar present value with gas out there, okay? A little honeyhole. We got something special.
Starting point is 00:17:56 That's why I'm talking to you on telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with the Dallas Cowboys. You know, I actually invested $1 billion in a rig to be able to get three miles deep into what could potentially be a honeypot of natural gas. Now, you might not understand anything I'm saying right there. We were talking scratchoffs, especially in the oil game. If you do recall, I had one beautiful oil rig. As soon as she penetrated this lovely earth that we have, that thing went down there and started coughing like any mammal wood. And then that thing started spewing oil.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And all of a sudden, a hundred million dollar drill and I said, Jerry, holy shit, you bought the Dallas Cowboys. That's all you need. Just need one of these things to really go, hey, well, Jerry Jones is looking to do it again. Jerry Jones put $1 billion in one of these rigs. I need to get three miles down there. They're a little bit worried about how hot it's going to be. So I need to go ahead and invest in this piping
Starting point is 00:18:45 because all the older piping that's trying to get the natural gas, they can get the excerpts of this honey hole. But I can get right to the heart of it if I can get down there three miles. So right now we're talking about that because I'm trying to figure out how the hell to get to the ground. You know, they say if you keep digging, you'll get to China. That's what I'm trying to do right now.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But before China, $100 billion in natural gas. That's what he said to Wall Street Journal. Now, in a nutshell, if we read the article right, Jackson DART, is that not basically what was said in there in a nutshell? Exactly, Coach. Okay, thank you, Jackson. We have some gas, you know, dealers and information in the building. But that is what Jerry was talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So in his world, if you look at how he started his money, just in general, it was literally a one rig, a drill that went down, got him $100 million, he's got to Cowboys. He was in debt. time. Jerry Jones has always been a roll of the dice scratch-off guy. And right now in his head, there's a hundred billion dollars right beneath our feet here. So you're telling me there's a hundred billion dollars down there? Yeah. Why haven't we gone? It's too deep for who, says Jerry Jones. And that is what he is focused on in this exact moment. Because if not him, you don't think Elon's about to find a little shovel that can get down there and figure that
Starting point is 00:20:01 whole thing. That guy can go to Mars. He can sure as hell get down there if he has to is what Jerry Jones, I got to beat him there. If he's worth $100 billion, now you can spend it if you're Jerry Jones. If I got $100 billion, the Dallas Cowboys are only going to get better. They're only going to get better and better. But what Dak Prescott had to say about it was this. Right, you read the comment and being honest with you, I don't know the full, full context of it. I do know that, a piece of it.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But being a fan and you just read that or hear that, yeah, of course, especially right, as many fans are and do. and thankful that they do live and breathe by this team. And they feel like their jobs are, you know what I mean, putting all their effort into this. So, yeah, that can definitely be frustrating. But in that sense, I would just say, like, the guy's never really lied about who he is or what he's trying to do.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And I think right there, I mean, hopefully he was talking about in that one particular moment. You know, maybe in those five minutes, is what he was alluding to and having a chance at $100 billion opportunity. I think you might take five minutes as well and go and go answer a call. So hopefully that's what he means, right? But I can see I can be frustrating.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Once again, for us as players, we control, we can control. That doesn't pertain to us right now. Our job is to make sure that we're getting ready for Monday night and going to be the best team that we can when we go out and play the Cardinals. Have you ever watched Shark Tank? These billionaires invest in a lot of different companies that call for their time. This is Jerry Jones. He's a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He's a businessman. He's going to have other obligations in many. moments in fleeting times. But throughout his entire life, all he cares about is the start is basically what Dak Prescott says there. I think that's an accurate descriptor of the situation, but Cowboys fans don't want to hear that right now whenever their team is potentially ash cheeks on the defense side after a massive trade takes place of Michael Parsons going to Green Bay Packers and him living up
Starting point is 00:21:51 to every expectation that everybody thought he was going to be this year, Ed? Well, the problem is, don't Cowboys fans usually argue that Jerry is too involved, that he's in there and he's always like, hoarding. Oh, oh. You know, he has his own press. He does all this thing. I'm going to be out of the commercial here now. But what I'm saying, think about it, Jerry's around.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He has his own press conferences. No other owners do that. I thought they'd be happy that Jerry's taking some time away from the facility. Hey, is that a dishrag in your pocket? I did find this on the Ice Maker before I showed, right before the show. Yes, I knew I needed a little pizzazz. You do got a good flare, Ed. I think when people think about Ed Simpson, no relation, they think, wow, that guy's got good pizzazz and good sports takes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's a good call, Heavenly Hulk, sir. I don't even think about that. Jerry's basically saying, 100 billion dollars down have you ever seen do you know what you could buy with a hundred billion dollars that's what jerry renovate the stadium again you know brand new stadium i can own five of the teams here now exactly all of a sudden i own five NFL teams that's where i'm at elite status okay i'm right now Rome for my wedding okay that's what i'm doing at that stage of this entire thing jerry saying oh hell i'm like i'm my fuck around go to space like all these
Starting point is 00:22:56 other guys that are worth all this amount of way that is what jerry's thinking and then he's also saying on the other side they got a little baby jerry down there and Stephen down there, and you've got shoddy and the boys down there. I've got to take care of this at the moment. The boys are doing just fine. But everybody wants him to change his title, right? Well, if you're not going to do that, then you're not the general manager of the team. So if you're going to be the general manager,
Starting point is 00:23:14 then, you know, we at least in the middle of the season, need you to act like you're focused on the football team. Do you think that's a big problem, Heavenly Hulkster, as you look down from above? My two cents would be the Cowboys fans. Hey, shut up, dude. It's been the same thing for the last 20 years. Listen, Jerry's
Starting point is 00:23:29 an oil man. Okay, you don't just wake up one more and say, you know what, I don't want to do anymore. Cowboys are worth $10 billion. He's potentially sitting on $100 billion. Yeah, okay. I think I know where he's reminds me a lot of story back when I was in WCW. You know, you got the Holksor who's obviously the biggest earner there is on the planet. And you got Eric Bischoff and Ted Turner coming to me and say, Hulkster, we need you to take some of that money and maybe funnel it to guys like DiBelaco, you know, maybe elevate the rest of the roster. Thousand holds, dude. Exactly. made of a thousand holes. Everybody knows him. Everybody loves him.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Holkster wasn't going to do that. Why? You don't know that that's true. I guess you do. I believe me, brother. I do know that that's true. And the reason is because Holkster puts butts in seats. Okay? So the point B, all these people can say all this mumbo-jobo, dude, and say whatever they want, dude. You tell me AT&T Stadium isn't going to be packed full on Sunday to watch their beloved Dallas Cowboys? It will be. So you can bitch and moat all you want. Jerry ain't changing a damn thing, brother. Well, in Harry, that's a good point, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I saw Jerry acting this off season. Why wasn't he studying tape when he did that? Good point. Coach Cowher, you know what I mean? Why wasn't he doing that? I'm always in the lab studying tape, so that's not something that registers in my mind. All I did was live, eat, and breathe football.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So that's not something that I could ever just register with. Now, that's Coach Cowher. Let's go to your world, Harry Potter. How much time did that take for Jerry? Because what if he is focused on acting and nailing a scene, maybe the best any cameo actor has ever done in the history. I'd probably win some sort of an award for
Starting point is 00:25:06 what he did there. And also, maybe finding an oil rig that can get $100 billion. But the acting world, why was he focused on that, you think? Is he maybe distracted too much to be focused on the general manager duties here? When it comes to someone like Jerry, it's a bit of a conundrum just because
Starting point is 00:25:25 he's a man that can't be tied down to one thing. I know Dallas Cowboys very similar to you know, Victor Crum fan, if you will. Well, said, Harry. I'm trapped. It's very hard to speak like this.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But, yeah, I'm sorry. Jerry Jones is Jerry Jones. He doesn't give any shit what anybody says. And guess what? He's going he's going to find that 100, excuse me. There we go. He's going to find his 100 million in it. A hundred billion in it? If it was 100 million, I don't think people
Starting point is 00:25:58 would care. 100 billion is like one of those hilarious fairy tale. Yeah. Yeah. It's out there. You're telling me three miles down, there's a hundred billion dollars. He probably started kicking me through it. How do I? Can I, can I, why haven't we started? What are you talking about? Can't get there? Also, close you get to the center. Allegedly a harder it gets. You know, those volcanoes that we see go off? That's where they're coming from. You're coming from down there. So how are you going to be able to get to the natural gas whenever you got all that heat down there from the volcano? And Jerry's like, I just saw a billion dollar. I can get these pops to be able to handle it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, it'll be, there'll be cowboys pops. They'll be able to handle it. Star on every. Could have paid Michael. Mike, uh, is this. You heard Jerry talk about him, I believe that's what you're directly referring to. But it's all in the title, I think, Ed. Honestly, I believe it's all in the title that Jerry Jones has in which he is, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:52 the general manager acting and president. And that first 27 minutes of this show was brought to you by. DoorDash. Hell yeah. Now, this DoorDash is certainly something. Is it not, Ed? It's the best. Why do you think this little guy, Smurf has the piece of pizza in his hand?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Well, that's right, Ed. I don't think it's a smurf. I think it could potentially be, and I don't know if they paid for the rights for the duck, but it appears as if that is potentially a duck hand, if I had to guess, holding a slice of pizza in a very interesting way. You know, this particular mascot's animal doesn't know properly how to hold a piece of pizza, I think. So just kind of went with whatever they could because they knew, wow, I can't
Starting point is 00:27:24 believe this pizza just got delivered to my house as easily. and as efficiently as it did. And they just grab that thing out of a box and say, get with that thing. And Hawks, you understand whenever a slice looks that nice, you just kind of grab however you can. Yeah, without doubt,
Starting point is 00:27:37 you gotta remember, dude. I mean, if you're getting this from DoorDash, you know, it's coming from the place and there's a good chance there's piping hot grease on the other carriage of that slice of bizarre.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You're burning your hand, do that, brother. Well, as Harry right now, Harry kind of looks like he's got a good handle on that thing, Randy. Oh, wow. It's a piece of piece. It's massive from my eye.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It is. You kind of look like you got little baby hands with how big that pizza is. But you can get pizza and listen to this. Anything else? What? You kid me, dude. You need the other? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You need something to shave your face? You need clothes because you look like an asshole. Yeah. Not that that would ever happen to any of us. No. Never. DoorDash got your back. I was in a place.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I forget where it was. Open DoorDash. It was like three options. I was like, wow, we're really fucking out here. You don't even have to do like the Google Maps thing. You know, you're, way out there. Anything that is in 40 minutes of you, 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:28:31 of you, available on DoorDash. Basically at this stage on DoorDash, I will say there are some prices that you're paying for some things just for convenience that you look at and you go, I can't be doing that every day. I can't be doing that every day. But boy, it's nice to be sitting at home in P.F. Chang shows up. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:48 7.40. Don't even have to leave the house. Let me go ahead and dive right on in here to Chang's spicy chicken. We appreciate that. Shout to DoorDash and shout to sports fans everywhere. You can order a DoorDash or use DoorDash on game days in our mind. Yeah, hell yeah, brother. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is the face of sports conversation,
Starting point is 00:29:09 which kind of what we hate about. Ed, I don't want to, like, kind of throw any direct shots. I don't hate anybody in the sports industry. Ed doesn't? No, Ed does not. Just claw on my way to the top. How, yeah, okay. All the way to the top.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Ed's trying to get all the way to the top? I might be in Tucson by next year. Where are you at right now? Do you know? Texarkana. Okay, Texarkana. I've been hearing about Arkansas because I guess there's a D3 football game
Starting point is 00:29:37 that has a big rivalry game next weekend. Oh, yeah. Yeah, their stadiums are like three minutes away from each other. Interesting. You should go. Division tree? Yeah, Division three game. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Division tree? Harry. It's a good point. Harry's a lot of good games. We don't need to be burning up a bunch of jet fuel go to Arkansas for some D3 game. brother. What? Have you heard? You know nothing about this, obviously.
Starting point is 00:30:00 God damn right. And it's blessed. Can't say that. Yeah. You're in heaven. How many times do I got to tell you guys, dude? Boom! Okay?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Makes me get out of jail free card. Wherever you go, brother. Are those wings going to take you down to that D3 rivalry game maybe? Yeah, maybe if St. Peter's joking around and we're, you know, rasslet or something, and he clips them, and I fall out of the sky and land there. sure maybe outside of that come on dude only place I'm gonna be is a beach
Starting point is 00:30:33 and clear water you know right in front hogan's hangout clear water beach oh yeah of course dude you could do one of your clouds like you did a few months back I wasn't jibberish this little guy saying I can't understand a damn thing that's coming out of his mouth brother
Starting point is 00:30:48 joining us now that's Harry Potter I saw I've heard that I told him His buddy, Albus, Doubledore, he's sweet, dude. You know, I'm asked him if you wanted to come trade with the Holkster. You know, he didn't like it when the Holkster started. Smack him around and give him a couple of atomic leg drops.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Apparently those British folks don't love that. You slight to Albus. Real hard, dude. A couple chops. And then hit him with the, I am a real a man. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the face of modern sports media, Emmy Award winning, Dan Orlovsky. Hey, Dan, Arlovsky. Bart, man.
Starting point is 00:31:29 What up, Bart? What's going on? I think this is a good decision. You feel good about it? Probably a hole. I think it was a good decision. You feel good about it or no? Did you guys hear me?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah, it's just kind of echoed, you know, but I think natural mask stuff. We had it with Florida man in the back as well. Good enough. It's part of Halloween. It's kind of Halloween football. We can't hear you. You look amazing, and we appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Bart, what's your big take? away from last night's game. Lamar Jackson back and filthy? Is that the conversation? A couple of those throws were obviously elite. Highest QBR at one point. I don't know if that's still the stat. I apologize for not looking at it up right before we go live. But he is just unbelievable through the sky and then obviously being able to run. Bart, what did you see from the Ravens in Lamar last night to maybe make you think this team can't go on to run and maybe win the AAC North? in the offense was fine you know the play action
Starting point is 00:32:27 pass game that that's kind of their bread and butter right now throwing the ball that was really good that's kind of who they are at their best when it comes to the past game certainly the run game got going a little bit in the fourth quarter I don't think that they dominated at the line of scrimmage running the football but
Starting point is 00:32:44 the mar looked relatively sharp when it comes to not having played for a month so like offensively I thought they were fine Rinkus kind of smooth throughout the course of the game and they did some good stuff. He made some really nice throws versus main coverage. Bart, that's pretty good breakdown, bro. Bart, that's pretty good breakdown.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah, yeah, thank you. My big takeaway is how good the defense look. You know, the defense in the last three games has given up 13 a game. Bring it back down to the football. Matt Tricer's playing the nickel, much better against the run. And took the battle away.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Gilman's been an outstanding. addition just because Gilman allows Kyle to go closer to the football. Kyle was big enough to handle the run. He's athletic enough to play against any type of past. Malachi Starks, I thought, had a fantastic game. Just when it comes to running to the football,
Starting point is 00:33:34 playing with discipline, discipline, and then a bigger defensive line for the most part played a way more consistent game run defense-wise. So, you know, the offense for the Marke playing for the first time in about a month was good. The big takeaway is how impressive the defense has been.
Starting point is 00:33:51 last three or four games. That's kind of what gives me the biggest encouragement. This defense continues to play this way. This offense was his safety great thing. Last year, they'll be fine. Okay, Bart, Bart knows ball. That's part of it. 13 a game, the last
Starting point is 00:34:06 three games for that defense that was ass and cheeks, like the tush push just a few weeks back, which we were all very worried about with, you know, the Baltimore Ravens. Everybody, sports books had them as a favorite to win the AFC North, even when they didn't look good. Lamar was hurting her. Obviously, their record at this exact moment is three and five.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I just want to make sure I had that right. And they're still the favorite to win the AFC North. It's like everybody believes that this Ravens team can be great just because we all know who's on that team. We just hadn't seen it for a while. And now all of a sudden, it's like, let's get the Miami Dolphins in prime time. Lamar's return. He's going to go absolutely insane. And on the other side, they're going to fire the general manager. Your thoughts? Bart on Chris Greer since 2016. kind of his era ending in this entire thing? Yeah, this is the move that's most likely for Miami.
Starting point is 00:34:58 One, the roster is not good enough. If you look at his drafts, Chris Greer, but I think since like 2021, I think there's like five starters or six starters that have come from their first three-round picks. So you're talking 15, 20 picks that are made right around there. There are only six guys have become starters. It just hasn't panned out health-wise or development-wise.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I never thought that Mike McDaniel, at least right now, was that kind of on the hot seat? I knew results matter, yes. Two years ago, just about this time, this was the number one seed in football. They were playing at home versus the Titans on Monday night to kind of lock up the AFC East and almost the number one seed. But there's that day and that ridiculous comeback in the fourth quarter and it's kind of gone downhill since then.
Starting point is 00:35:45 That's kind of like, I don't think Mike McDaniel forgot how to coach. I don't believe that tool who was at the time. point, an MVP candidate, forgot how to play. So this, from Miami, the biggest kind of issue is that the talent isn't really equal to the echelon AFC teams. I think the next step, Jalen Wattle, I would entertain trading him if I could get good value. Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb would very much so entertain both, trading both of those guys if I get fair value. Just as we're talking about it here, they trade Jalen Ram, and they trade Johnny Smith to the Pittsburgh Steelers this offseason, preseason.
Starting point is 00:36:26 What were the expectations for this Dolphins team? And now we're talking about them trading away all their other best players. I'm very fascinated on what was supposed to happen this year. And let's go to one half of the Hammer, Don, Cowboys, Old Florida Man. Florida, man, what were the expectations in? Was this inevitable? This was inevitable. We were quietly optimistic.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I mean, Jaylon Waddle is not getting traded. I could see Trayton Chub and Phillips, Judon, maybe, but Ramsey wanted to go. Not paying Jono Smith was diabolical. Our only pro bowler wanted to be there. He had to stay. You lose him, and it's been a disaster ever since. Smart to start speaking with your hands.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I don't think anybody really knew which person back there was speaking. So thank you for doing that, just strictly because you have such a stone face. You too, Bart, you should be pretty animated when you're talking because, you know, just a still shot. Yeah, there you go. That's what we're talking about. By the way, great breakdown by Bart Simpson. People are reading the captions going, what is Bartnows ball here?
Starting point is 00:37:24 Unbelievable. Barton has ball here. Eat my shorts, dude. That's Tush Push number one fan back in the back. He's Philly John, obviously. And Foxy, a hot dog, dude, you look good. Yeah, I'm a hot dog. I just like to point out that this hot dog has no mustard, ketchup only.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I actually ordered it with mustard. I had a pain over this because everyone's out there. But yeah, let's go ketchup on your hot dog. I like that. Now, you put the ketchup on top because you had to paint over it. the mustard that was on the top? Exactly. The right move, actually,
Starting point is 00:37:54 and everybody goes, hot dog is sandwich yada, yada, it's a taco, okay? And just like any taco, you know, anything that's like movable, you put in the bottom, then you put stuff on top, but you could do that.
Starting point is 00:38:04 You definitely put the ketchup at the bottom of the taco. Okay, and then you put the hot dog on top of that. Then you shut that thing. What's that? Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, you put it at the bottom. Now, granted, if you have buns that are kind of ash cheek and they are separated, You don't do that. That is the worst case scenario. The only reason why I don't like going on top is going to way bite it gets all your face. But if you put it on the bottom, that thing's part of a bite.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm saying, Bart? I'm into that now. I actually like taking American cheese a square of it, slicing it or cutting it in half and putting half on each side of the hot dog. Yeah, not a bad play. That's a good play. Did not expect that.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I thought you were going to say you eat the cheese slices from the inside out like it's a pizza, whenever you rip them in half because of some of your other takes, like Reese's cups. Oh. Like Reese's cup. What do you do the Reese's cups again? If it's just like a Reese's cup, the traditional one, I take the kind of the perforated shell,
Starting point is 00:39:05 I bite it off because it's too much chocolate. There's not a good ratio. And I don't like no chocolate. So I just bite it off and kind of eat the internal part. Yeah. You put a video of yourself doing that or somebody else put a video of you doing that because that is serial killer behavior, I think. And when people watch you do that,
Starting point is 00:39:20 they thought to himself, we should check this guy. And then I think I said to you immediately afterwards, like, hey, you can just kind of split that in half and then eat that thing like a pizza from the middle, right? You did tell me this. You did tell me this. I haven't done it yet, but now you've reminded me. So I'm going to do that. You look like Ace Ventura whenever he sits down and you need an ashtray,
Starting point is 00:39:40 whenever he's doing sunflower seeds with this entire thing. Yeah. Being the birds. How old are you, Bart? I think it was 13. I'm 42. You're how, 42? I just turned 42 this summer.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Happy birthday, dude. Happy birthday, brother. Hey, you've been eating races like this for probably, what, 32 years? And you never thought once to go from the middle, inside out? See, that's what we're talking about with serial kill behavior. And Ryan Clark saw that, him doing that, we're like, other people need to see this. Other people need to see this. This is a big time problem.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Speaking of needing to see this, we need to see a good game. K. NFL? I'm carving. 55 years ago, 19. Okay, this league came together to do something special. I was there when they signed the shit, okay? First time, 55 years last weekend. There was only one game that was decided by single digits, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Only one at first. I'm just an old sports media person. Peter. You see, and I go through waves of who I am. Am I conversational respect to young generation guy? Or am I, I know more than you because I've been around. this place longer than you have. I forgot more about sports than you've ever learned.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah, but we're in a very new stage of life. Don't care. Don't care. I know every life kid. Your life, this big. My life this big. Shut the fuck up. It's hard not to be that guy every time. But I don't want to do that. Especially because we got Heavenly Hulkster.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Thank you, dude. Although I do like kind of the best of both worlds there, brother. Well, that's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. I'm kind of in the middle of it. Because he brought up Jaylon Waddle. Let's trade him out of there. And you heard Dolphins fan, Florida Man in the back at oh okay our only cool thing really but like him doing this is like so cool like it is so cool I'm sure there be a lot of teams that would love him Tuesday 4 p.m. Eastern time trade deadline for the NFL this weekend's matchups are going to have a lot of say in what takes place but on that
Starting point is 00:41:38 note of one good game last weekend and Thursday becomes another double-digit win for a team there's a game this weekend that's a guaranteed luck Eddie Simpson no relation to OJ has a question Yeah, no relation to Bart either. Bart, 425 on Sunday, I believe, Chiefs playing the Buffalo Beals. What do you expect from this game? Who do you think is going to win? And are the Chiefs full with the Chiefs again? Are they back and going to make a run for the Super Bowl? Yeah, I mean, the Chiefs are as hot as anybody in football, hardest team going.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I think they're the second best team in the NFL right now behind Detroit. So, I think it's just clicking. Naput Rishi and Travis next to each other. It's just a problem. Right now, Patrick throwing the ball to either of those. guys, machine racer, Travis, he's 52 a 67 for over 600 yards. And those, of those 600 yards, 351 of them are yards after the catch. And so, like, if you watch defenses, AJ, you would speak to this. Like, when they put those two guys next to each other, it's so hard to defend because
Starting point is 00:42:37 you have to have so many eyes on them because they're both in the middle of the field that, like, they crack so much your attention. And then all of a sudden, there's worthy running down the field like I'm covered. So how does that happen? When the reality is you want to have people near them if you trust people in space, you know, with here like Kelsey and you give him space, do you trust the person that's going to be
Starting point is 00:43:00 quote-to-quote near them? Zon or man? You trust them in space. I think this game comes down to those defensive lines. We don't have defensive lines been very good this year. The bills, but let's just have some moments. What is there after some on the way. That's a sense of
Starting point is 00:43:18 moments or six in the beginning. You could get 15 and bruns it's been about to the post-40 and since you get this dude
Starting point is 00:43:28 on the ground because I haven't you got it You're starting like Charlie Brown's parents dude
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah it started to drift out a little bit I think there's maybe I don't know if it's when you hit something
Starting point is 00:43:38 or make another noise it drowns out yours in the back because these phones are so smart the phones are so smart
Starting point is 00:43:44 so the phone is trying to listen for voice your sound right now. So whenever you hit your hand, I think it picks up that as opposed to the bland yellow image that's right behind that that is speaking. So I think you can't
Starting point is 00:43:56 be too animated. So we said earlier Bart need you to be animated. Let's up you to it. Let's make sure we're animated in silence. I think that's where we got to be. I think defensive lines. I think defensive line most of these have been underperforming.
Starting point is 00:44:14 That's why it's a lot of fun ways to get Patrick on the ground. But then also, like, Kansas City. Like, Chris Jones is not played to the level of Chris Jones. But he hasn't been dominant. Josh, this is a game for me. Josh Allen, it's like, I've been on to the football at one time. I'm going to see if his defensive line is going to contain me. We can't hear.
Starting point is 00:44:37 We got to call you back, brother. Yeah. Hey, Dan, we got to, Bart, we got to call you back. We can't hear what you're saying. You're giving good takes, though. And you look amazing, Bart. We can't hear what you're saying. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Don't do that. Holy fool. All right, we'll call you back. We'll call you back, Dano. We'll call you back. Bart, sorry, Bardo, we'll call you back. He comes back with it different. What was he saying?
Starting point is 00:44:58 He was saying defensive lines need to be used. Both defensive lines have played poor this year. And so the defensive line. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's sweating his ass off. Dan, yeah, I think that's what I look like right now as well. Oh, you have the AirPods in.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That was definitely what it was. Yeah. Don. You fool. Now you're muted. Now you're muted, I think. Did you mute it? Did we meet you? We muted you. I can't hear Pat. There we go.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Donald. I'm not Pat. Please, Peter and Everville. Thank you. I have a little respect. I hear him now. Dan. There we go. It wasn't bark, guys. He was just a mask.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Oh. Just a mask. Oh, man. I got another costume. All right. Okay, cool. Yes. Taylor the one a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Sorry for infringement. That's my hassle back. Well, don't give away the gimmick brother. I can't wait. Happy Halloween to everybody. Yeah, it's like a... Slutty nurse costume. Oh, sick.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Colorado, dude. Wow. That's so cool. Dude, I'm your father, right? What is that? Uh, no. Yeah, technically that's not the same franchise. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Oh, it's grandfather, I guess. Father's father. I am your father's father is what it actually is. That looks great. Let's do a testy, do a testy father's father. Does this sound better?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Oh, you sound amazing. Hell yeah. Thank you for joining us, Mr. Collo Red. Okay, Hulkster. Going to need to be a little bit clearer. Mr. Ren. Mr. Ren on that?
Starting point is 00:46:31 I appreciate the hell of the Hulkster. I didn't know you're such a big fan of the Star Wars franchise. Oh, yeah, dude. You can't be me. I mean, Harrison Ford was always one of my favorite teams of big time Hulkomania. Jack and then Adam Driver, a guy who played Carlo Red.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's actually a four of Marie, I believe. Urah. Ura. Princess Lay up there with you? Yeah, she's a sweet gal. That's nice, you Hawks, thanks for all this breaking news. Feels like you're really breaking a lot of news.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Do what I can, dude. Heavenly Hulkster doing his thing. Okay, so Mr. Wren, whenever you think about this Chiefs' Bills game, if you're going to go back to say everything you were just said that we couldn't really hear, but in a much shorter condensed version, what would that exactly be, Mr. Wren?
Starting point is 00:47:11 yeah i think this game comes down to what defensive line plays better than they have this year neither defensive line has been great buffalo's playing without ed oliver bosa's brought in bosa you're brought in for a game like this uh Vanessa's been okay rousseau's been fine so like they're going to have at some point in the fourth quarter can't city's going to have that third down that fourth down they got to get to patrick they got to make sure that patrick's legs aren't used and then vice versa can't city's defensive line first jones has not been what first jones has been. Carloftus has been up and down. If I'm Josh Allen, this game,
Starting point is 00:47:45 I've got to score 30 to win. I'm going to hold the football. I'm going to make this defensive line chase me down. I'm going to try to create big plays because they can't necessarily in the rhythm of their past game. Whoever defensive line plays better, I think, wins the game. I love that. I can't wait. What did Bengals just do?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Well, they got a bunch of people asking for a trade. They've had four people request the trade in the last, let's say, four months, if you include Troy Hendrickson. Most recently, literally, I think, yesterday or something like that. So Trey Hendrickson, Logan Wilson, we heard about that last week. McKinley Jackson and Mike Pinell, he was releasing. He's back with the Chiefs now. Chris Jones is very pumped about that. There's a lot of people trying to get the hell out of Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Now, the narrative is this, a couple of them came shortly after that player's only defensive meeting. Now, obviously, if you recall, Lou Anarumo, long-time defensive coordinator for the Bengals, is now defensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts. This is all on the defensive side of the ball, kind of this entire thing. Was Lou holding the entire place together? Like, what is your kind of takeaway on what's going on in Cincinnati? And on that note, we would like to say to Cincinnati Bengals fans, we're sorry this is all happening to you guys,
Starting point is 00:48:51 but this is a wild scene that this is taking place in an AFC North team that has just spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars on building their roster trying to be in a Super Bowl window. That's the only reason why you pay everybody is because you're trying to win a Super Bowl. Now, that's how they feel. Is that a reality going into the season? I don't know. But guys coming out openly in 2025 saying we want to be trained in the middle of season,
Starting point is 00:49:13 pretty crazy, abnormal, Mr. Wren, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think obviously this was a team that was all in when it came to how they went through their offseason. They thought that Al Golden, the new defensive coordinator, would get this defense to play better, and some of their young pieces would step up. I think a player like DJ Turner has at the corner position, but the defense still is a very bad unit. Logan Wilson's, I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:39 Trey was the obvious one once they started to struggle and Joe went down. He's not signing back there. They don't appreciate him enough. I don't think Logan Wilson's been paid recently. I thought there was some noise about Logan last year wanting a new contract. I don't know if he got it or not. Logan Wilson is a really
Starting point is 00:49:55 good linebacker. They would fully expect if they can get good value to move on from him. If I was a team like the Dallas Cowboys, I would be calling about Logan Wilson. It's crazy that In the last year, it's gone from, my gosh, this is a historical offense. Joe is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:50:15 If they could just get better, they'll get back into Super Bowl race. And now it's like very dire future, it looks like, as of right now in Cincinnati. Yeah, obviously not great whenever people are trying to get their ass out of there and willing to take a public hit, you know, because anytime a player comes out and says, I would like to be traded, he is also admitting that it's not working, right? So there's two people that are part of a relationship. So anytime anybody comes out negatively about each other, it's like, hey, we're both admitting fault here. At least I am.
Starting point is 00:50:42 This is not working. I would like something new. Let's go to Cincinnati Bengal alumni, maybe ruler of the jungle someday. And a man who grew up as a Cincinnati Bengal fan, Edward Simpson, your thought on the amount of players wanting out of Cincinnati? And what does that say to you, brother? Well, I mean, I think when Logan Wilson, he was, you know, they had some young kids step up and started playing well. So they were, he was getting much a reduced role, I guess. The other guys, you know, Mike Panella, you saw how happy they were to get him back in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I play with Mike in Green Bay, actually. Or I should say the person who, the guy, AJ, who used to be me, I don't even know. I'm kind of like Inception. Your dude, played a dude disguised another. Edward Simpson did not. Edward Simpson could fly around. Edward Simpson played in 1948. That was a long time ago, I think.
Starting point is 00:51:24 But you were right after you. No, yeah. I actually, you had my shoulder. We were wearing those leather. I wore your shoulder pads. You wore my leather helmet. Yes, yes. It was like springy inside.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Look what we did for sports. We did a lot for sports. But the Bengals are dead? No. I do not think the Bengals are dead. Dano or Mr. Ren. Is that right? Kylo.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Kyle. Do you believe, okay. What do the Bengals look like next year, Mr. Ren? Like, what's the record? Let's assume Joe Burroughs back. Joe Burroughs back. What do they look like? Can they stop somebody next year defensively?
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, I think, to be honest with you, I think the number one question is, is Zach Taylor the coach? That's a fair question to ask, given what's kind of transpired over the last year or two. I think Zach Taylor is a really good coach. It's been a while now in Cincinnati. Joe hasn't been able to stay healthy. So I think it's fair to say, the scheme that is deployed, while it's allowed for a ton of success, has it also been a part of, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:28 Joe being a little bit more exposed to some hits. they're going to have to get a significantly better performing offensive line. The defense still can't tackle. So the defense has got to get much better at some of the basic fundamental stuff. So how does that happen? So who is Cincinnati next year? I think it starts with what's the plan that coach? And then Zach Taylor, they're going to have to, I think, philosophically change at least
Starting point is 00:52:54 the way they approach football and how they want to play it. They can still be ridiculous offensively. they've got to protect them much better and they've got to play significantly improved football on the back end of their totality on defense. Okay, it sounds like you're trying to go back to an older version of you there, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Now, I know last year you became a good guy and said, you know, I won't be nice, but you used to be an absolute killer out there. Absolutely right. And now you're saying, what's Zach Taylor looking like next year? That's a good question. Jeez, Kyle. They're going to a lot of season left. Now,
Starting point is 00:53:26 obviously, Joe Burrow seemingly gets hurt because of what you're talking about with the offensive line? Did they try to address that? Yes. Have they really figured it out? No. And then when they spend money, everywhere they spend money, everybody that knows football was like, is that a way? Is that a way to win? Super Bowl, we shall see with the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:53:44 People ask them to be out of there. Now, let's talk about a team that did have Super Bowl aspirations this offseason as they were doing a bunch of stuff that nobody had really ever seen before. Coach Cowher has a question for you. Yeah, we'll start with that. And, Kylo, when you see Dan, just apologize on the, All of Pittsburgh. He was right. We were wrong. They stink, okay? They should be 0 and 6. The record is a fraud. Anyways, Colts are visiting them this weekend. Is there any chance
Starting point is 00:54:10 the Colts don't score 50 points against Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend? I'm going to be there for the celebration of the 20th anniversary, the 2005 Super Bowl team, an incredible team, a team that played defense. What do you think? How many of the Colts score this weekend? Legends. Legends. Yeah, I would be surprised if the Colts don't put up at least 35. I think the Colts have one of the most difficult offenses to match up within the NFL. Here's where I am with Pittsburgh, coach.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah. Like, number one, defensively, you just watch this team play against the run. They're too straight up. And JJ could talk to this better than I can, but like from an offensive perspective, if I want to run the ball against Pittsburgh, I don't think that they play with the proper pad level,
Starting point is 00:54:52 a consistent basis, to stop the run. They just don't. A little bit is their scheme. I've talked to Marcus about this because they're trying to two-gap meaning they hold on to an offensive line, and they're trying to peak which ways the run, but they're standing up. Yeah, I know the two guys.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Run game. That's why they're struggling to stop to run in totality. And then the backers, the backers see that, and they're trying to get into a gap, and they'll sometimes get into the wrong gap. The thing that struggles with, I see what they struggle with coverage-wise is this.
Starting point is 00:55:19 For a couple years there, it was like they were so simple on defense, coverage-wise. They didn't do anything other than, like, cover three, okay? This year, it looks like they've tried change things, and they're trying to, like, confuse the quarterback in disguise. Here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 00:55:35 They, when they do that, they're consistently out of position. They're trying to get so creative and so unique with some of their coverages that they're out of position, or this guy's late, or they're not getting to the right kind of zone area. When you do that for... Anti-Tay-A-J knows this. He was unbelievable. He was connected on a string almost. So good.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Real talent. In their defense. All right. There's a lot of stats going on about the defense. What you're saying probably very valid. All the Inzers know is they spent a lot of money back here. And for them to be the problem, it can't happen. Wouldn't happen in 2005 when Bill Kauer was shooting people out and spitting all faces if it wasn't going the right way.
Starting point is 00:56:19 No, I would have got on the boys. Pizzi would have got on the boys. James Fair. Oh, 5-1. MVP would have gone on them. This would never would have had. Big Hamp's in the middle. Come on.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Come on. They can still turn around a lot of football left. And for you, Kylo, we appreciate you join us. Also, Bart. And Dan, it appears. Wow, Daniel Relobson. Oh, and Bart, and Bart. His three-headed man.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh, three-headed man. Oh. This guy's three-headed monster. We appreciate you, Dan. All right. We'll be back on the other side. That's annoying. What?
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Starting point is 00:57:21 Get the new iPhone 17 Pro at tellus.com slash iPhone 17 pro on select plans. Conditions and exclusions apply. Football, brother. That's right. Football brother is what we talk about usually. But I'll tell you what, the run of NFL games has been ass and cheeks. Like the man behind a glass, the Philly John, who's dressed as the Tush Push's biggest fan. That is what football has been, what's sitting on top of that man's head in the back corner.
Starting point is 00:57:53 There's an old Florida man right next to him. They got Jackson Darts sitting in the front row. Hot dog with ketchup on top, as opposed to mustard is a man who loves the Detroit lines and loves having a good time. Hot dog's synonymous with good times, 7 o'clock. Yeah, amen. Everyone likes the hot dog. Anytime you eat a hot dog, you usually had a ball game. You usually had a get-together, a family event, you name it.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You can't go wrong with a nice wiener. Yeah, that's right. Easy, dude. I guess you can guzzle those glizzy, wainers done and have the time of your life out there hot dog and a man next to you seems to be no stranger if i had to just read the vibes jackson dart you a you a hot dog guy feels like you're probably a pretty big hot dog guy love a glizzy coach give me like four or five maybe even six seven okay yeah yeah got it yeah it's very cool your number six too i'm sure you
Starting point is 00:58:48 haven't you know really utilize that as you should by the way jackson and i want to let you know Jackson. I think most of the time somebody like you becomes public people automatically don't want to like them. The fact that everybody loves you is because you're so damn good of football. You're an absolute beast dude. And I appreciate the fact that everybody's kind of giving you a chance. I want to let you know that.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Hell yeah, thanks, coach. Aren't you perfect for dayball too? How much you love that guy? Oh, Dave's man. You know, he's the best. We just got to get back in the dub call him. The losing just kills me. Well, scada boo, obviously. Happy Halloween. The scatta boot. Boo!
Starting point is 00:59:21 shirt that Peter Schroger had the other day awesome, you know, kind of honoring him. You know, the NFL lost one of its faces in Scaddibu, you lost the best friend, Jackson. You're my boy, Skat. He's going to be back better than ever, though, Coach. Don't worry about it. So, Jackson, call everybody coach?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Is that how that good? Just you, coach. There is a coach on set. He's one half of the hammer. I didn't know if he was talking to me, but all I know is as a coach, you cannot replace a Cam Scataboo. Okay, as a person, as a player, any of those things.
Starting point is 00:59:53 we lost the we lost a good one who's that cam scatapoo no yeah but it sounds like you were talking from personal perspective oh i was personally talking about when tc williams lost gary bertier uh you cannot replace a gary bertier on the football field or as a person yeah i think you're right and uh i didn't think about that because what where bertier was at the beginning of that thing uh huh verse the end certainly a fascinating situation let's go to the toxic table uh very spooky hell in here uh heavenly Holkster. Your thoughts on everything happening in current conversation and spookiness
Starting point is 01:00:28 with the vapes here. Yeah, I'll be honest, brother. I don't love this, okay? I feel like I'm at a bowling alley for corner media or something like that. This kind of garbage doesn't happen beyond the pearly gates, okay? So if we could, okay, good, it's starting to
Starting point is 01:00:44 kind of dissipate a little bit. Remember the Titans? Yeah. You know, great movie. I love Tony saying that, but you know, it is interesting, dude. You know, just the amount of kind of elbows I've been able to rub up here in heaven at my version of the Hogan's hangout, you know, guys like Jackie Robinson, you know, who a long time ago people would have said, Hulks are ain't never going to be doing anything with Jackie Robinson. I went out and played pepper with him for an hour and a half. You know what
Starting point is 01:01:14 pepper is? Yeah, when you're... Yeah, exactly. It's like, you know, you played before like a baseball game like high school, grade school, underhand a ball, somebody, and they try to get a butt down. If they pop it up, you can run over there, catch it and they get. Hawkser's pretty good at they get? Oh, brother. Holkster. You lost the Jackie by a lot, though. No.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yes. Hulkster always gets the butt down. So we even got to a point where Holkster had to basically be like, who wants a bat? I'll play defense. You guys ain't never getting me out, brother. And they do, you know, we laughed about it. We giggled. One of the other best parts about being up here.
Starting point is 01:01:48 bottomless. I'm talking bottomless. You get like these big jokes for St. Peter where you come in, basically whatever kind of beverage you want in there. Really? Yeah, exactly. We have American beer?
Starting point is 01:02:00 On tap. Everywhere you go, you fill up your beer. You drink it until it's gone. In the holster's case, I'm just, and when you're done, that thing fills right back up to the top. Perfect amount of icey cold.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Icey cold. perfect about a head like a butt to be a where's this at is this hogan's hangout i'm talking maybe like 150 feet past the pearly gate you take the left that feels like pretty prime real estate it's well let's just say everybody i wasn't kidding first hour i told you how being a local maniac say peter was you should see my spread over here dude me i got DMX coming over in my house every night smoking cigars, playing cards. That is one thing. Me and X, well, I call him Earl, but me and X, we took a couple four-wheeler.
Starting point is 01:02:58 He does call me Terry, or no? He does call me Terry. He's one of the few guys up here who I allowed to call me Terry, brother. He's become a dear, dear friend. We were basically recreating the Rough Riders. I hit the video. Yeah, exactly. Getting them puppies up on two and just,
Starting point is 01:03:13 Ging, gee, you know, kind of raising a little H.E. double hockey sticks. We don't like saying that up here. And even at that point, Jesus and St. Peter had to come up and be like, Earl, Terry. You got to scare everybody, man. You guys still, you know, obey the traffic laws up here. So we don't do that as much. But, yeah, let's just say the holsters really, really enjoying his time up here so far, brother. Well, happy Halloween.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And it's not even WrestleMania season yet, dude. It's coming. It's right around quarter. I know. They're going to Vegas. I don't know. you uh i heard i love it are you getting booked never say never harry potter um obviously sitting next to heavenly hulkser has been quite a day uh there's a time now in sports where we have the
Starting point is 01:03:55 world series tonight man we got the world series on a friday night and there's chances this could be over could be over tonight i hope so why they basically say baseball in london is kind of like a big pile of shites if you were what no nobody likes that the baseball. We see it as kind of a poor man sport. No, it's great sport. That's what they say, but I didn't hear a heavenly I didn't hear
Starting point is 01:04:22 a heavenly hoax to mention too much baseball aside from Pepper with Jackie Robinson, not a fold baseball game. He was watching obviously Lamar Jackson last night, return to my head. We appreciate that. How could you not? But I have found myself, ladies and gentlemen, local sports and weather reporter,
Starting point is 01:04:38 Edward Simpson, no relation to O.J. or Bart Homer, Maggie and ilk baseball's actually been very watchable. Very watchable. And I don't know we've covered the entirety of baseball trying to evolve into the modern era. Obviously we've covered sports longer. We know more
Starting point is 01:04:57 and everybody about it. Because we've seen it, we've lived it, we've done it. We know. Yeah. Brother. Be sure, brother. But baseball's tried to make more rules. They've tried to make more rules to make the game more watchable. We'll say pitch clock, obviously, getting things.
Starting point is 01:05:12 down quicker, feels like there's a little bit more of an explosion. I've heard now, we've heard that umps will potentially give a little bit of a bigger strike zone of people so that entices hitters to swing. Like, hey, we need you to swing a little bit. We need to go ahead and get this game going, which we respect immensely. And then superstars that are global sensations who are talked about as being great in the biggest moments have shown up, okay? All year, Aaron Judge, all rise.
Starting point is 01:05:39 This guy's six foot seven, captain of the Yankees, handsome, incredibly cool, everything about him. Ouse's superstar, megastar, in New York City as well. New Jersey, New York City area. You get it in that entire thing. And he showed up and delivered. MVP like year. Cal Raleigh, storyline out of nowhere. This catcher who hits from both
Starting point is 01:05:56 sides of the plate. Huge ass. Huge ass. I mean, this guy's got a big dumper. Okay? That's what this guy has. He hits dong shots out there, do something that, you know, really hasn't happened in forever. And then this character right here, Shohey,
Starting point is 01:06:12 Otani is unbelievable. Pitcher, hitter, highest paid guy. He's going to pay like $700 million or something deferred over the next 25 years. Has everybody pissed off about everything and has the entire country of Japan staying up crazy hours to watch what's happening in MLB because this guy is so damn special. And then you look on the other side with Toronto, this team, they got a 5'8 guy. Okay, playing catcher. Kirk is his last name. And he looks like he should be hanging out with us up on this stage right now. He looks like he should be hanging out in the think tank with us. And this guy's hitting bombs. Big old ding-dongs in the World Series. And then Vladdi Daddy. Duh. Yankees loose. This guy, huge moments, has shown up and delivered. So
Starting point is 01:06:57 whenever baseball is on right now, and let alone the 18-inning game, let alone everything else has taken place. Baseball has delivered, I think, Edward Simpson. Do you not agree in that notion? I agree completely. I mean, it's like the high-paid Dodgers squad with all the superstars. They They are. Those guys are playing well, but the, what, Toronto, are they, the, what are you, the little engine that could? Is that how people look at them? Like, hey, we play small ball. Payroll. See, that's what I'm saying. They actually pay guys, but I guess we, as Americans, don't know as much. I wonder, Heavenly Hulk, who's going to win tonight? I assume the Dodgers, they've got to get to win tonight. Do we know who's pitching?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, so it's going to be Yoshidobu Yamamoto, one of my favorite dudes. He can just absolutely hurl that thing. You have a lot of history in Japan. Yeah, obviously, Ichibon Hulk. I can't confirm this, but I'm uttered the impression or people have said that both Shoah Otani and Yoshinobu, Yamamoto, both had Ichibon Hulkster posters in their room growing up, wouldn't doubt it. So it's going to be Yamamoto against Kevin Gosman, who is kind of the ace for the Blue Jays.
Starting point is 01:07:58 As of right now, what Yamamoto, he has just sliced through this Blue Jays lineup. Yeah, but Heavenly Hulkster, someone sitting in a similar chair the other night after the 18 inning game said do Toronto Blue Jays have any chance at winning this thing? They have. They certainly have. This Toronto Blue Jays team's for real, aren't they, Heavenly Hulkster? And they can put it away tonight in Toronto?
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yeah, they can win a World Series in Toronto tonight. Their first one since 1993. This Blue Jays team's is just relentless, brother. You know, it doesn't matter how many chips you stack against them. Everybody's thinking after that 18-in-game, you lose in horrific fashion.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And that, uh-oh, show, hey, on the bump the next night. What do they do? We don't give shit. We don't care. Okay, show hey. We're going to bomb his ass and we're also going to strike him out
Starting point is 01:08:48 three times. That's exactly what they did. They won a big game. And then what do they do? They steal another one in L.A. The big bad man, the big bad acquisition, Blake Snell, who actually post-game
Starting point is 01:09:00 after getting kind of rock said, you know, they didn't really, they didn't really get to me. Sometimes luck plays into it. Well, Blake, when you throw two fast, ball's right down the fucking middle, two out of the first three pitches of the game. These guys get paid too. Vladimir Guerrero just signed like a $450 million contract before the year.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Those kind of guys, guess what they could do? They can hit fastballs down the middle. They can ambush. They can jump you, which is what Yoshinobu Yamamoto is going to have to remember tonight. MLB is about to take their pennant, their championship to Canada. I thought this is America's pastime. Yeah, that's one thing that the Hulkster still having a real time. time getting over.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I'll be honest with you. I'm having a tough time. So what did I do? I said, you know what I got? I got to go into the 26th main roster. I got to look at every single one of these guys and figure out where they're from. Well, and behold, not a whole lot of Canadians out there.
Starting point is 01:09:53 A lot of guys from the U.S., a lot of guys from the Dominican Republic. We mentioned, you know, Alejandro Kirk. He's obviously from Mexico. But yeah, you've got to give the slight edge to the Dodgers tonight because Yamamoto's been unbelievable. but I tell you what don't let these Blue Jays get hot and they're already hot brother
Starting point is 01:10:14 yeah it feels like there's a really good baseball happening Edward Simpson from what Hulkster just said how do you lean ES how do you lean tonight I got Yamamoto two complete games in the in these back to back complete games Jack bam let's make it a three let's make it three in a row let's do it that's highly unlikely but I like where your heads are you're saying they win tonight
Starting point is 01:10:34 yeah I think I also believe the Dodgers will win tonight's game You think the Dodgers will win tonight? Yeah, I believe this one's going seven. He thinks that Toronto's won't. No, I think Dodgers. Really? Yeah, I think Yamamoto gets it done. Oh, I misheard you.
Starting point is 01:10:47 That's all 100% of me. I thought you were saying that you think that Toronto's going to be able to... I don't know, man. I think we need a game seven. We need this has been a good thing. We need game seven. Okay, so we need to put into this universe that we're living in. And apparently it works because you've seen the other side and now you're doing it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Yeah, well, with everything that's going on right now with that kind of stuff, I don't want to say I know what's going to happen. But yeah. Let's just say I know what's going to happen tonight. If you maybe want to bet, I don't know, Dodgers catcher Will Smith to hit a homer, I don't know. Maybe you do that.
Starting point is 01:11:22 How about this? Universe ball. Well, heavenly ball. Okay, sure. Oh, I couldn't get over there quick enough. I was going to guide it in. Damn, you're made it. I'll try.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Okay. man, Hulkser doesn't have the same moods he used to. See? Oh, no, now this is the one you got to get to. Okay. No, no, this is all you. Why didn't you help me, Hulks? Well, I thought you were going to make it, dude. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:11:52 Unbelievable. World Series heading back to Toronto, Game 6 is shaping up to be the most in demand. Blue Jays game C ticket, C-Geek has ever seen, with the average ticket selling for $1,639 bucks up there. They're like 3,500 loonies? Yeah, actually, I think so. And then I think it would be 800 and 19 tunis. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I believe if I'm trying to put together the math here from back in the day, trying to understand what Looney's and Toonies kind of remind myself what it is. You used to flip these coins. That's one bucket, two books. But if we're depending upon where Canada in America is finance-wise, how much of the dollar is, that Tooney was also sometimes like $2.75-E, you know? You know, it was a little bit worth more. And then there were some times where America was doing it.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And that tunie was actually about a buck 50, you know. But the loonies and tunis out there, Canada, good times. Right now, go see a game. If the series were to make the game 7, currently the average resale price for that game is $2,341. You can currently get $30 off with code Pat McAfee at Seakeek. And that's what that segment was brought to you by. Hell yeah, brother. See a CKee kicker down here, Heavenly Hulkster.
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Starting point is 01:14:05 All right, let's talk about some story. lines happening around the NFL. Patrick Mahomes is talking about their game with the Buffalo Bills. Let's go ahead and run the video. Let's run the tape. Patrick Mahomes, chat about how big it is. I mean, they don't like us. I mean, that's pretty, they do not like the Chiefs. But, I mean, it is a cool environment. I love playing in, like, historic stadiums. And that stadium has had so many great players playing it. And who knows, it might be the last time that we get the opportunity to play there. And it'll be a great challenged for us and they're loud and that's what you want you want to go in go in and be in a
Starting point is 01:14:40 hostile environment that's what football when you watch on TV as a kid growing up is the the environment you want to play in and so obviously they're not rooting for us but you get to bond together as a team and get to go into a historic stadium playing a great environment love everything about that that's not wizardry Harry that's real feels like they understand this is an actual rivalry of the modern era yeah not me not Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes is the leader of the league, if you will. However, this does feel as though the Chiefs, Kansas City, the
Starting point is 01:15:11 Swifties, the Celties, they tend to lose the games that don't matter as much like in the regular season. They've already lost a few, haven't they? Specifically against the Beals, Josh Allen now more than a football player, which
Starting point is 01:15:27 I love. It seems as though Mahomes and the Chiefs may let the Bills have this must win, and I always look forward to to what Sean McDermott says in his pre-game speeches. It always seems to rub people the right way, and he seems to be a slithering more than a Gryffindor, if you will. Yeah, so I don't know if it's pre-game speeches or team-muting speeches that you're referring to,
Starting point is 01:15:49 but Sean McDermott obviously has that Buffalo Bills team back in contention, always going to, we all assume, with Josh Allen. What are your thoughts on it, Edward Simpson, he's too? And also, what are your thoughts on Patrick Mahomes openly saying, like, yeah, Chiefs, this is a real thing. We understand it's a real thing. We appreciate that it's a real thing. They've changed rules because of our games.
Starting point is 01:16:07 They're looking at the future of the NFL and what blueprints of players should look like from our games. What are your thoughts on him acknowledging that as a whole and the game agent? I love how Patchamahomes is handling, letting them know, like this is a real rivalry game. They don't like us, and I'm sure the Chiefs don't like them. But that's what it is. That's what these games are all about.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But as the Harry Potter gentleman, I forget, Dumbledorf said earlier, or whatever his name is. Whichever one you are. I'm not sure. There you go, Mr. Harry. Sometimes it does happen, right? When the Chiefs lose these games and then they won. when it matters the most in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Did you see in the NHL, we had a magical story the other night? Marshie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Goes back to Nova Scotia to coach for his friend, J.P., who he grew up playing hockey alongside. He went back and coached his junior team because the coach, JP,
Starting point is 01:16:54 had to mourn the passing of his 10-year-old daughter from cancer. So Marci took a leave of absence from the Panthers to go up there to do that for his friend. Obviously, feel good magical moment. but also this dude is exactly who we all hope he is. This guy is awesome. This guy is incredible. He showcases it.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Shout out to hockey being like this. But also shout out to sports for once again in very hard times to kind of bringing people together, Conman. What else did I miss in this story that is obviously incredibly feel good and awesome? Yeah, I'm definitely going to drop the English accent because I really do want to talk about this and be able to. Marsha and I believe owns or at least donated to this team. The team itself is called the Martian and Mill Company Hunters.
Starting point is 01:17:34 it's the U-18 team. I mean, this made me emotional. This is kind of the thing that, you know, sports brings out in people. I think it's kind of the best of everything, not just Martian. Like, even the Florida Panthers understanding like, hey, you need, like, this is much more important to go and do. And like him being on the bench, I mean, just putting yourself in the position of, you know, Brad Marchand's best friend. Hey, this guy just wanted Stanley Cup. They're going, you know, they're trying to get another one.
Starting point is 01:18:01 But he's deciding to be here. putting yourself in the position of those kids. Like, man, we kind of thought that maybe we weren't going to play hockey for a little bit, even though, you know, U-18, that's very important hockey, especially for those kids in Canada. And, you know, Brad Marchand now is the guy that we're coming off the ice to see. It's just, it's amazing. And it's just what makes Brad Marchion such a special person. Taking that moment from what could be obviously incredibly devastating for all parties there,
Starting point is 01:18:26 teams get very tight. Hockey teams, obviously we're not talking about anything anybody doesn't already understand. But now it's like a story in a moment forever. Marcia came and coached the boys. Like the boys now, they had to go through something very devastating with their coach. He's potentially away in the middle of the season. Obviously, that can rally and gather and round everybody up and get them closer and tighter. But now also add in a part of the story, one of the greatest hockey players of all time from the area coming back in lending a helping hand to a brother.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I mean, it's a beautiful thing, Ed. It really is a beautiful thing, AJ. Yeah, and I think hockey kind of has that brotherhood that some sports may not be, might not be as tight. and think about it as professional sports professional athletes game week like they're in season yeah to leave in season that people don't realize how big of a deal that truly is so yeah bill zito and the boys over there understanding and for marshy to do this yeah i think it's something those kids will remember forever and as well as his best friend will remember until he died it's also a good act uh for people to see like hey this is how friends uh-huh yeah
Starting point is 01:19:23 and there's things that are more important in sports too at times for some people yeah like even just thinking about the guys on the panthers you know I'm sure there's younger guys who are just thinking, you know, just as far as perspective goes, like they're probably just trying to earn their way through the NHL and then having a guy like Brad Marshan, who's a leader of your team, you just mentioned with the Panthers, kind of show you like, yes, of course this stuff is important, this is our profession, but like there are things that are much bigger and like being able to go and do something like that, like shout out Bill Zito and all, like Paul Maurice, their coach, like everyone just being, tell him Brad,
Starting point is 01:19:56 basically, yeah, get out of here. Sports are the greatest. The great. Of course, the greatest. Speaking of the greatest, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the greatest all time whenever it comes to coaching, college football, friend of the program, host of college game day. Ladies and gentlemen, future Hall of Fame are in every Hall of Fame that exists, including business and birthday boy. Coach Nick Xavier. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:20 What's going on, bro? You guys look marvelous. Thank you, coach. We didn't know if you're going to potentially dress up, but if I could dress up like the greatest ball of time. every day I would so I appreciate you looking in the mirror and saying this is exactly what we need happy birthday to you dude happy birthday to you brod happy birthday dear coach Nick Stainment. Happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Dude. Happy birthday, Coach. Hey, man, I appreciate it. You guys look great, but you can sing like shit. Whoa, well, Coach, that says ears. You got those old-ass ears. That's your old-ass ears. You don't hear the cleansingness of our voices.
Starting point is 01:21:10 We appreciate you. Hey, going to be easier to shoot your age. Huh? Going to be easier to shoot your age now. That's one good factor. A lot of good factors for us. I want to let you know, we're thankful that you have the best year that you've ever had in a history of your life coming up this upcoming year
Starting point is 01:21:25 and we're going to be a chance to be a part of it and watch it. You're a good dude, man, great dude. And the way you treat everybody, and the way that you kind of speak about everything is how everybody wishes that the people around them would speak. You're a legend. That's why everybody says you should be the president of the United States. Happy birthday from one old-ass man to another, you know what I mean. I appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Thank you so much. It means a lot. And, you know, you've got to have a lot of gratitude. for the things that you have, but nothing's more important than relationships. And I do appreciate the relationships that we've developed, you and I, as well as I enjoy so much
Starting point is 01:21:59 being on this show with these guys. Yeah, we're lucky to have you. Let's talk about where you're at right now. You're over in Utah. I'll be catching up with you tonight. I can't wait to go trick-or-treating with my daughter. I can't wait. I think that's wonderful that you're able to do that. Amen. First time, she really kind of knows what's happening.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And it's good that you can spend it with it. Yeah, I am so pumped. So I'll come catch up with you. On that note, excited to be out there. Were you there the last time that game day was there? Their fans and their alumni showed up in a huge way out there. And they have the mighty Utah student section. They're favored by 10 and a half. What are your thoughts early here on being out in Utah and what this team presents for the Cincinnati team?
Starting point is 01:22:39 Well, I was not here the last time we had it here. But I will say this is a beautiful part of the country. But I think this is, you know, I've liked Utah's team all year. You know, they play good defense. They're physical. They tough. They kind of play old-fashioned football. This backup quarterback did a marvelous job for him, you know, last week against Colorado.
Starting point is 01:23:01 But I tell you what, Cincinnati is sneaky good with the quarterback that they have. Now, I know the running back has hurt for this game prior, but they've had great balance. And I like the Cincinnati team. If they can play good enough defense, I think. think these guys may be for real. 10 and a half is the spread. Cincinnati's been hot. They lose week one to Nebraska in a neutral site game.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Everybody rules them out now. Game day, Big 12, still very much in their sights. Let's talk about another game happening this weekend. Edward Simpson, no relation to OJ or Bart has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach. Oklahoma's playing Tennessee Saturday night, 7.30 p.m. Eastern. I guess how do you see this game going? A lot of hype, obviously.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Neither team can afford to lose. right now with two losses, each of them. But how do you think this game is? I really like Tennessee in this game. I mean, they've got one of the leading offensive teams in the country when it comes of scoring points. They're difficult to defend. They've got a good offensive line.
Starting point is 01:24:03 They can run the ball. And Oklahoma's got a great defense, one of the best in the country. But I think when you spread them out like this, it's going to be more difficult for them, especially playing on the road. And, you know, to me, the issue for Oklahoma, is are they going to be able to score enough points in this game because they've been struggling on offense a little bit since, you know, John Mateer came back from, you know, breaking his hand,
Starting point is 01:24:27 which is, you know, I mean, it's understandable. You know, the guy's playing hurt and he's playing quarterback. It's harder to spin it. But if he plays well, they'll have a chance. But I just think Tennessee is going to be hard to be relative to the points that they score. But Tennessee's struggling on defense too, so they're going to have to outscore them. Yeah, Tennessee, you know, we've seen the greatness of them, and then obviously they're not perfect. So in college, that can get exposed literally any weekend.
Starting point is 01:24:53 And then Oklahoma, I've been waiting on. I've been waiting on and be back because I had so much hope for them at the beginning. The hand, you're right. I mean, that's very understandable that it's potentially sewn them down a little bit, but it definitely has. Let's talk about another team that's on a run right now, undefeated. Go ahead, Kahn, man. Yeah, coach, I'll go back to my English accent after this, but you're old as shit, and I don't want you to misunderstand me. Texas A&M.
Starting point is 01:25:13 You didn't say, happy birthday! Happy birthday coach. And, oh, man, I was going to drop a D's nuts on you, but I won't. Texas A&M and Mike Elko seem to have turned that thing around completely. They're basically now, I mean, it's hard to argue that they're not the best team in the country. What do you think about the job they've done? And how about this quarterback? You know, he really wasn't up there for Heisman odds, and now it feels like he damn near might run away with it.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Well, he's playing great. and I would say the two teams at this point in the season that's kind of separated themselves from the pack to me is Ohio State and Texas A&M. And, you know, Marcel Reed has been a big part of that. But, you know, I think this guy has got special talents, man. He's improved as a passer. He's got better receivers.
Starting point is 01:26:02 He's got better skill guys to play with them outside. They can run the ball a little bit. And this guy can beat you with his feet. So this guy is, I mean, unbelievable talented athlete. I mean, when you talk about this guy playing basketball and what a good basketball player he was, I mean, and, you know, they've got the skill guys now. There you go.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Plum returned for a touchdown against LSU. So I think this is a really, really good team. Can you tell me, did you recruit Marceau? Did you know, is that why you, did you see him play basketball? Or did you just, you've heard through the coaching ladder about the incredibly athletic Marcel Reed, who now has seemingly figured it out in all facets.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah, well, I did not see him play basketball in high school. I saw some clips on them playing basketball, and I'm saying, wow, this guy's a player. But this guy reminds me of somebody that plays for the Baltimore Ravens that has, you know, turned the National Football League upside
Starting point is 01:26:59 down for, you know, several years now. And I think this guy's got the same kind of qualities. Yeah, you saw the stop right before the touchdown literally takes us back to Lamar from high school, you know, that exact play. Now, granted, his was on the sideline, his was in the middle of the field. Marcel's special. He's in, hey, Hizman conversation is very real.
Starting point is 01:27:18 You talked about Texas A&M in Ohio State separating themselves. I think everybody in Indiana would say, well, hey, who, who, who, who's yours. That's what everybody in Indiana would say. I should have known better. Obviously, you could bring a little bit of heat. You talked about Marcel Reed and that Texas A&M team. They get a huge winner for LSU. So big, actually, it draws some change.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Governor Jeff Landry is even talking about it. Now, at this point, it's become national talking point about what's going on down there at LSU. Go ahead, Coach Cowher. Yeah, coach from one coach to another, everything that's going on down at LSU, they do not have an AED right now. They do not have a president right now. And Governor Jeff Landry is talking about the coach is going to have to have a prove-it contract. Is LSU doing themselves any favor in this coaching carousel?
Starting point is 01:28:05 Are they scaring coaches away potentially? Well, you know, I think, you know, one of the things that is really important now in college football, and let me make a comparison for you. You know, in the NFL, everything's vertically integrated in one building. In other words, the rules are clearly defined by the league as to what you can and can't do, whether it's salary cap, contracts, whatever it is. And you either succeed or fail based on what happens in the building, from, you know, the owner to the GM, to the coaches, to the personnel folks, to the player.
Starting point is 01:28:37 College is just kind of the opposite. Everything's happening externally, not internally, like it is in the NFL. So you've got all these external factors that are constantly changing, whether it's transfer portal, how much you can pay guys, revenue sharing, you know, what kind of collective do you have? So traditionally, how have you been able to adapt to that? And my point about tradition is some of the traditional jobs like LSU that that people always looked at as one of the best jobs,
Starting point is 01:29:09 have they adapted to all these things like they need to to be able to continue to be one of the best jobs in a country? And I think that's why you see Vandy, Indiana, places who have not historically been traditionally great jobs, actually having a lot of success now because they have managed the external factors very well to bring it in-house so that they can function effectively. So what's to say LSU, Florida, they're traditionally the best jobs, but are they the best jobs now, relatively speaking, based on how they've adapted to the external circumstances that really affect your ability to be successful in college football?
Starting point is 01:29:54 Okay. So on that note, people quote you whenever they say why LSU is such a good job. They say, I believe the greatest college football coach of all time is quoted on the record of saying, five stars fall out of tree. in Louisiana. Like that is literally what happens down there. So if you're able to just recruit the state, you'll be able to win. What you're saying is recruiting any state right now requires some things that a lot of other schools potentially have more of. Is that kind of what you are referring to right now? Yeah, I think, you know, I can't give you any statistical facts on this, but is regional recruiting as effective as it once was? You know, I've also made the statement that kids in Louisiana grew up wanting to go to LSU, kids in Alabama grew up wanting to go to
Starting point is 01:30:38 Alabama. Well, some of those kids are going to Ohio State because they're getting paid more and it becomes a little bit more about money than it does about regional alliance in terms and you can't blame the kids for it. I'm not, I don't want you to think that. No. But so at the same time, I'm saying if you don't have those resources, you know, it used to be about program, facilities. How can you develop players? How can you create value for their future? Well, how can you create value for them right now
Starting point is 01:31:12 is what's changed in college football and how have you adapted to that? Yeah, and if you don't do it every day, we got options. Lane Kiffen came on and chitchadded about pre-portaling basically where you have one good game. There's like three schools that are calling at night. Somebody obviously not directly associated, but hey, if
Starting point is 01:31:28 you were maybe going to a portal, we got about 120,000 M&Ms in there. know, if you need that. That's happening at all times. So it feels like the business aspect of decision making is starting much earlier, as opposed to the regional, territorial, I would like to be in this area conversation. I think, I don't know how you're going to stat that. I assume there'll be a good stat at some point that kind of depicts that. I mean, I go back to Quinn Ewers even. That was at the beginning of this NIL era. Yep. He's like Texas Longhorn
Starting point is 01:31:56 through and through Texas wanted to be Texas. I think he was committed to Texas, but couldn't get paid. So he went to Ohio State to get paid. Went to Ohio State because he could get paid there. Then he came back to Texas, even though he wanted to be a Texas Longhorn all along, had to go somewhere else to kind of get the money. I do wonder what that means for LSU, because they're ranking the job like LSUs. But to your point, I think that's a great strategy. If you're in a place that historically has a lot of good players coming out of high school, if that guy went to another school, I would track that guy's career like from day one, because eventually get him back, bring him back.
Starting point is 01:32:36 If you lose them the first time, get him the second time. And you might be better off because he might have developed a little better. He might be more ready to play, more mature. So I would definitely do that. And I think that's definitely something LSU should be doing, just like Texas has done. Boy, I haven't even thought about, can't be burning bridges during this recruiting process.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Because guess is going to be available maybe in two weeks. Who's that? That guy. That player might not be happy where he's at. Is it sustainable? You know, that's kind of the question. Is it all sustainable, we shall see? There's a video of Kalin DeBoer after the game where one of their players,
Starting point is 01:33:10 I think is number 12. I forget if it was offense or defense, but a South Carolina coach went up to him and was kind of talking to him. And Kalen DeBoer kind of yanked him away like, hey, come on. We just won the game. Let's get out of here. Interesting time in college football. AJ Ellison and is Edward Simpson has a question for you, coach.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, coach, I don't know if you got a chance to see the game last night. Ravens played the Dolphins. We've got to see your old QB, too. Obviously, the dolphins are battling. They're trying to figure things out. I guess when you look at them, what can they do? What can you do at this point in the season? You're in the NFL and you're struggling. You have two wins right
Starting point is 01:33:45 now. How do you handle that day in and day? Fired GM this morning. Yeah, and they fire the GM. Like, what do you do if you're the head coach when you walk into that team meeting every day? It's hard. You know, I went through that in Cleveland. You know, in 93, we were five
Starting point is 01:34:01 and two. We cut some players at a buy week after being five and two, and we went two and seven the rest of the way, and it was a little bit of a mutiny in the building. But the one thing that pro players can do and can think of to keep things going is they need to play well to extend their career and to see how much money they can make. So winning and losing doesn't necessarily determine that. So if they keep performing well, they're still. creating value for themselves, and I think that's important for pro players to take advantage of, even if you're not on a winning team. But I think the dolphins, you know, I have a house in Florida, so a lot of people ask me, what's wrong with the dolphins? And I can't really answer that
Starting point is 01:34:47 question completely. Obviously, they've had some injuries that could affect that, but they haven't played great on defense, and they haven't scored a lot of points. So they have lots of issues, and I didn't No, they fired Chris Greer? This morning, yeah. Well, he's one of my favorites. You know, he was a scout there when I was the head coach many, many years ago. And I think Chris Greer does a really, really good job. But I guess, you know, when you look at the product on the field,
Starting point is 01:35:15 personnel has to do something about it and be responsible for it to some degree. And the coaches have to be responsible for how did they develop it. So, and everybody's got to make those decisions internally. I guess. Gumpy just heard what you said and in the moment pretty emotional threw up. He was happy to move along just because Dolphins fans feel like they've been in purgatory throughout
Starting point is 01:35:40 this entirety. But it wasn't that long ago that this roster of this money was like the hottest thing in the NFL and now you know it's a complete opposite of that and Lamar Jackson comes back to town and does his thing against him. Two interesting situation because you talk about having good tape
Starting point is 01:35:56 you know like hey put good tape out there doesn't matter if we're going to play us like some teams have a 2% chance to make the playoffs, they kind of understand what the situation is, but OGs tell them like, hey, this is either where you keep your job or maybe make some more money. People are watching this shit. This isn't just like fans being upset about
Starting point is 01:36:12 us not having a hope. This is all like a tryout. You know, they talk about preseason. This is real shit here. So if you can do good tape, that's why whenever they say like people are tanking for somebody, it's like players aren't, players aren't putting shitty tape out there. Like that ain't players, and now are there schemes being called?
Starting point is 01:36:28 Are there people not being dressed? Maybe are those things happening? Potentially, maybe that is happening with teams. I'm not going to rule it out because I am an open-minded individual. But like when we're in the suck-for-luck campaign, everybody was saying, it was like, I wasn't trying to shank balls. You have right, I would have got fired. The offensive line's not trying to give up sacks to whoever is playing quarterback that year
Starting point is 01:36:48 because they want to keep a job. So interesting dynamic that the Miami Dolphins are now staring down. Good for you, Gumpy. Lut, dude. James is good. It's been too long. Hey, Chris Greer, good guy. He was a good guy.
Starting point is 01:37:00 just wasn't good at his job at the end. At the end. At the end, he was good at the start. He made some good moves at the start. This last officer was in trouble. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's like Coach McCarthy. Coach McCarthy goes, well, these players got to execute as well,
Starting point is 01:37:14 which is always like the coach's angle, you know. It's true, though, that is part of it. I agree. Definitely part of it. Like, if you feel like you have the right players, they should be able to execute the scheme. If they can't, that's probably, I don't know, are you giving too much to them?
Starting point is 01:37:25 That's why there's always this, whenever, like, draft hype happens, because the personnel department says, this guy's got a lot of potential. And then it's the coach's job to build him up. Well, if he never makes it, who cares if he was maybe just a bus? This coach should have been better because the GM saw something in him, and this coach obviously didn't make it happen. But maybe the players just ask.
Starting point is 01:37:42 And that's what the coaches say after they're getting fired. You're saying, well, that's kind of the circle, isn't it? Coach, personnel people have these visions. Coaches are supposed to make it happen. If you don't make it happen, definitely on you. And if the whole team is asked and they think everything's bad, well, you put the entire team together. You've got to get out of here.
Starting point is 01:37:58 I feel like that's kind of the natural thoughts about those positions. I think you're 100% correct in terms of, you know, you heard me say this before, is there's seven or eight teams in the NFL that have vertical integration from top the bottom. In other words, the personnel people are out there getting the kind of players that fit the system in the scheme that the coaches want to play. The coaches are able to develop those players because they're both, you know, in sync with each other in terms of what they're looking for, type of people as well as, you know, physical characteristics, whether it's size, speed, critical factors to play a position. So they're getting people that fit what the coaches want, and the coaches take that fit and make it work. So you have the same teams that seem to be successful
Starting point is 01:38:45 kind of on a consistent basis, and then you have the same teams that seem to struggle because they don't have that alignment. Because if you have vertical integration, you don't have what you just talked about, which most of the teams have an issue with. Personnel, coaching, developing. So, look, I went through two years in Miami as a head coach. The first year, we had vertical integration with the personnel, with, you know, right down to the coaches. The second year, we didn't, and we had a terrible draft, and the team went in the opposite direction. So that's very it's critical to being successful i think everybody's got to be a team everybody's got to be together we can't be pointing fingers at why we pick this guy and he's not playing well everybody's got
Starting point is 01:39:35 to be responsible accountable for it and you got to pick the right guy to start with no different than what i say about paying players in college you play the wrong guys you're shit out of luck draft the wrong guys you should out of luck that's life in general i believe and uh i appreciate every time you start speaking about any of this stuff because you're talking about vertical integration a lot. It's basically saying like, hey, everybody has to be seeing the same picture because if you're drafting a 3-4 player, we've got a 4-3 defense.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Like, what are we even, are we even, well, he's going to have to play, he's going to have to drop back. It's like, that's not why would you do that? That happens. Yeah. And he talked about there's seven or eight teams that are kind of all aligned. There is actual situations where it's like they'll make them fit in there and it's like
Starting point is 01:40:17 how is this the highest level? How is this? You're out of luck too, right? I mean, think about it. You bring the wrong guy in and sometimes it doesn't fit. Okay, let's pivot back to college football and talk about a team that's had an interesting season. Go ahead, Heavenly Hulkster. Yeah, Coach, this weekend, we got Mandy in Texas, dude.
Starting point is 01:40:36 And as right now, Arch Manning is a game-time decision. And in the NFL, at least, I think he believes it's concussion. That's been a two-week injury. Now, I haven't perused the injury report. I don't know if he's playing or not. But when you look at this game, how do you see this one going? How big of a difference will it be for Texas if Archmanning doesn't play?
Starting point is 01:40:56 Obviously, they still got some five-star guy behind him, so it's not like the end of the world. But how do you see this one shaking out, brother? Nothing. You know, Vanderville, you got to give them a lot of credit for how they played last week because, you know, Diego did not have a great game. They were still able to score enough points. They were able to play good enough defense. And, you know, it just seems like Texas has struggled.
Starting point is 01:41:21 a little bit to get any kind of rhythm going on offense for whatever reasons. And I don't know what. That's the question. I'd love to ask Sark, you know, tomorrow when he's on the show, is, you know, what needs to be fixed? Is it the offensive line? Is it an inability to run the ball? Inability to protect the passer?
Starting point is 01:41:39 What are the issues here? But I tell you what, Clark Lee's done a really good job with that defense. And whatever the issue is with, you know, Texas's offense, they're going to try to expose them in the game by, you know, how they come after them. So it'll be interesting. I don't know enough about Texas's backup quarterback to really make a comment on how good the guy can play or will play. But I think it's going to be a game. And, you know, like Pat, you know, kind of put me on a spot last week, you know, in Nashville.
Starting point is 01:42:10 So I had to jump on the Vanderbilt bandwagon. And I really can't jump off yet. Okay, I like that. I like you jumped on completely. They give you a fucking crown. What do you do that? And you set it all up. No, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:42:24 No, just they were booing you. And it was like, we got to address this here, brother. Like, we got a, we have to address. This can't be the entire time. And the fact that in a 45 second period, it won from, they were going to boo every time you spoke. You know, that was the decision that they made. And I didn't know that until they started doing it.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And then I was like, yes, I love that they have done that. I enjoy that type of shit. I like when a group of people come together and say, are we doing this? Yeah, we're doing this. perfect let's drop it on them but now we got to address that and then you being able to say hey listen I was wrong because what's now is special and I agree with that don't you think after going game day there it's special what they've been able to do you you mentioned it earlier about like uh Indiana
Starting point is 01:43:05 and then Vanderbilt being able to be very good versus maybe some of these other perennial powerhouses that aren't as aligned or set up going forward vandy their name's Vanderbilt that family they got a lot of money there I think it's possible to kind of go down there in Don't you think as well, Coach? Like for sustained, obviously Diego is the one that put the key into the ignition and ignited this entire thing. But I think it's sustainable if they're able to keep Clark and everything they're cooking, coach. I do too. And, you know, they, I'm not going to say it on the air, but they have a significant amount of money in their collective,
Starting point is 01:43:38 which I think they were able to get because Diego brought some success to the program. People could see the value and exposure that that gave the use. university and the program, and it's very beneficial. So they've made a commitment, and it's showing, and it's paying off. So kind of, kind of really interesting, but really good for college football, I think. Yeah, you can zoom out. It seems like Vanderbilt, Virginia, and, you know, Cincinnati, and people who have not historically been people that we talk about, we're now talking about them.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And I think that's a good thing. Indiana didn't even have a football. They had a football, but you know it. They didn't even have a weight room. Indiana was in the Big Ten. Football State. Okay, this is a football state. Love football out here.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Didn't even really have a football program. And then now with investment in the right people and the transfer portal, they got an impact stadium renovations in hope for the next 10 years for football. I think it's great for the sport. I think it's amazing. But we're going to find out the haves and the haves-nots. I mean, that's certainly going to come. You're going to have to get a group of dogs to kind of transform a place.
Starting point is 01:44:47 you want to build it, but you can in this air. It's been proven. Happy birthday, Coach. We love you so much. I'll see you out in Utah. Appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:44:57 It's always a great experience to spend a little time with you on Friday. What's the age now? 74. Dang. Just to put it out there. I used to get three aside. It's not based on handicap. It's based on age.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Now that I'm 74, I'm going to start getting forced. Just makes sense to me. Yes, it does. Yeah, and you're Nick Saban, so they don't like it. They can get the fuck off the course. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, the goat. Coach Nick Saban, happy birthday. Happy birthday, dude.
Starting point is 01:45:30 All right, before we get out of here, we'd like to showcase all of the costumes of the Thunderdome. Obviously, you have A.J. here. He is Edward Simpson. I think you've done a great job this one. What was your inspiration? You said it was a group of people. A bunch of people, just nationwide people that I see on TV every single day.
Starting point is 01:45:47 everything about the toxic table obviously Harry Potter wonderful stuff I didn't know much about Harry before today yeah and there's a lot more to know if you will but again you know I tried to mention it's with with my question to Dano about Bart Simpson but yes it's very nice
Starting point is 01:46:03 you should dive into Harry Potter what's above the left eye there looks like something's on your head yeah not the Mansons actually it's my scar it's when I almost got murdered yes and my mother saved me and she got murdered you do look like Harry part with those glasses and then obviously right next to you harry we have uh for the first time
Starting point is 01:46:22 ever heavenly hulkster good to see you down here from heaven hall thank you dude thank you for extent of the advice it's great to be back to you guys always i love yucking it up with you fellas and then with those things on you can maybe come back whenever right because st peter kind of said you're the one yeah whatever i want i don't know if that applies to everybody up in heaven dude but again me and st peter about his you know i thought jimmy hart was my guy forever he is. Okay, dude. Well, I tell you, I really like...
Starting point is 01:46:52 St. Peter's good on a stick? Yeah, brother. He's fucking holding court at the pearly gates when people come in. Cutting promos? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, Jimmy, the mouth of the South? Like the mouth of the South?
Starting point is 01:47:06 He's the mouth of... He's the mouth of heaven. He's the mouth of the pearly gates. You know, and guess what? If St. Peter doesn't like you, he's going to let you know right away. Pergatory, bitch! See you soon or not. And he does that.
Starting point is 01:47:21 That really kind of gets him going. But again, he saw a Holkster. He said, you know what, Holkester? Let me go find the baby. Now, I'm remembered it. I've been having so much fun up here. He goes, sometimes things slip through the cracks. He said, hey, Holkster, I've got some 23-inch wide wings for those 23-inch pythogs.
Starting point is 01:47:43 You've got to. Again, regular heavenly nomenclature, you're looking at it. about a 16 to 18-inch wing. And yeah, the Hoekster's got 23s to match his biceps. So the Hoeksters do it just fine. I'm happy St. Peter's taking care of you up there, Hoxler. Love that dude, man. How's the back?
Starting point is 01:48:02 I know we asked you whenever you were here last time, if you had any regrets at all throughout the entirety of your life. And with those 23-inch pythons you're talking about, your answer was, why was that doing a leg drop? You know, because the hips in the back took such a beating. How are the heavenly hips and the heavenly back up there? I feel better than I have, really, since I was running hot with Nash and shit, Kit. Scott Hall.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Thank you. Coincidentally, I play cards with every Friday night. But yeah, you know, I haven't felt that good since I was running hot with those guys back in L.A. St. Peter did mention that. He said, listen, Hulkser, I hate to do this. I don't want to do this. Did we ever think about maybe a sleeper hole? instead of the leg drop, and I just said, St. Peter, you shut of a bitch, come here, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:50 And we kind of, you know, we Greco-Romaned a little bit, and that was the end of it. But, yeah, the Holkster, I'm doing just fine, brother. Yeah, and we're doing just fine because I got to see you, obviously, I hope to see you again. And then behind the glass, obviously, you got hot dog, Jackson, dart, push, John, and Old Florida, man. Thanks for showing up today, boys. Hell yeah, brothers. You think the touch push-push fan is going to become, like, kind of a thing?
Starting point is 01:49:13 maybe ash cheeks on the head to save the play because it feels like everybody's against you guys that plays not going anywhere nobody can stop it not even the league refs don't stop it ever and then they try to stop it post it's kind of a part of the problem with those ash cheeks on your head I just want to let you know that kind of a problem
Starting point is 01:49:29 go birds what if we always talk about big Dom you think they're going to pass a rule that he doesn't say is okay then nope yeah right big Dom's like let me grab your pen there I got your vote for you they can kiss my ears all right john i appreciate that now in the think tank the boys that have been hanging obviously
Starting point is 01:49:47 we have an incredible crew and their costumes delivered dirty graphic designer had his birthday just a few days ago dressed up as ladies a gentleman froze on baby oh oh that was good hey this was genius sir okay sir sir sir sir frozen it is an honor to meet you sir you're a big fans how fast you're good that's a great costume yes how you do dude Hey. Good funsy. See you. How about that, Frozone?
Starting point is 01:50:16 And he said it was good to see you too. You guys are boys, right? Yeah, well, I just feel a little bit of animosity there. I didn't know why, but yeah. Frozone's ready to race anybody. Ain't that right? All about the races. All the races.
Starting point is 01:50:27 All times. Any race, any time. Yeah, that's what we're talking about Frozone. We appreciate you. You look good, brother. Good to see you. Frozone. Thank you, Frozone.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Very good athlete, very fast. Did I see Frozone get caught? I think I saw all, right? Yeah. You're not expect that. They had to be a work. Had to be a work. Frozen was just beating everybody, would beat everybody.
Starting point is 01:50:46 We know that. Also, in the back room, a man who edits videos from being big to be in TikTok size. His name's Talk because he doesn't talk much and he makes TikToks, but damn is he talented. He's an Emmy Award winner. Taco! Yeah. Talk. Taco.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Oh. Had a boy talk. Taco Friday. Boy, talk. Okay. Too cool for school, huh, dude? He said you mailed it in. Walk your ass up here, did you? What would he mean?
Starting point is 01:51:19 No, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that. He said you mailed in on the costume, though. He said glasses and the hat not enough. That's what Hulkscher said. I did say that. They're booing you. Florida man's booing you in the back. I don't like it, though, Taco. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Hey, Taco, Taco. Taco. You're my Taco. Muchos, me, amigo. Good looking taco there. Even a little avocado on top. Edward Simpson, your thoughts on Taco? Thank you. That's you, that's you, Ed.
Starting point is 01:51:42 That is me. Put your shoulders back a little bit, right? He did it first. You gotta own that costume, Todd. Put your shoulders back. Walk with some pride. Yeah, be a meat, taco. Yeah, be a big, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:53 There it is. Can you get them flex? I don't know if we have them on a camera. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from the depths of YouTube, Bailey McComis as a totally legit and not rigged poker dealer. Thank you, Bailey. Thank you for doing that bill.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Good boy, Bill. You appreciate you doing that. good poker shirt, obviously, good visor, and we see the briefcase. What does that mean? Yeah, it's just totally legit poker money. Okay, so it's chips. Yeah, of course, of course. Don't forget the poker slash sports betting gala is going to be around 9 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Famous celebrities, won't say who for liability, but you know. Okay, all right, totally legit, he says. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from the audio department. He's a guy who is always lit, and he's excited for the halftime performance. performance. It's Mitt McMahon as Babbonny. Bat Bonnie. Bat Bonnie. Oh, Bat Bonnie.
Starting point is 01:52:49 See, I like it. I like it. Bad Bonnie. Can't wait here. Banyel. Yeah. Hey, you look good, buddy. Good luck in your Super Bowl halftime show. A lot of people not happy. Maybe speak some English there saying, and ladies and gentlemen, last but not least, he's a D3 national champion.
Starting point is 01:53:04 He was so excited to do this. D. Bonas, Hardy. Hey, that's good. And last but not least, Hardy, can you make some space for Mickey Moss? Holy shit, Nicky Mosch, with the greatest costume I have ever seen. Thank you, Mickey Moss. All right, thank you, Mickey Moss. We'll see him more on Monday.
Starting point is 01:53:26 That's how we ended the show. Hey, that's how we ended the show. Hardy, real quick. Will you come back? Will you come back, Hardy? That's how we ended the show right now. Unbelievable. Hardy, I think this is a really good effort.
Starting point is 01:53:39 I think you should be very proud of yourself. You're a massive big loud boy, aren't you? I mean, Hardy's kind of your guy. You won a contest on trying to guess what the order of his, how many songs? 14 song album. Didn't have an order out there. Let's go ahead and do a contest. If one of these people can figure out what the exact order is of my songs, we'll give them two show tickets.
Starting point is 01:54:03 There was one winner, thousands and thousands of entries. One winner, because the odds of that, just, absolutely absurd unless you can really feel the music unless you can really see the story ladies and gentlemen hardy here baby hearty hardy can we can we sing a song real quick absolutely oh no yep this is what we're gonna i'm still the same old redneck fuck don't give a damn me i'm afraid to throw a dead buck on my instagram grain alcohol in my cup got the whole house wall to wall and a shit like sold out yeah good work hey good work That's really good.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Not enough passion, I think, in the delivery. No, definitely not. Because Hardy really puts on a show, but that's the difference between Halloween Hardy and Apple Harder. Just watch the difference here. Hardy, great pet. Great pet. I'm surprised he didn't somehow work the Hardy Boys into the Hardy costume.
Starting point is 01:54:57 And ladies and gentlemen, obviously, one half of the Hammer. Cowboys is dressed as Jinsor Legend, Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champion. Thank you for joining us today. It's a true honor to be here with you boys today. How has it been? What did you have to do mentally to really attack today's show? Nothing. I just wake up, eat, breathe, and sleep football.
Starting point is 01:55:20 As I said before, coming here and talking football with you boys, it's what I was destined to do. Obviously, I feel good about being with you, boys. We share the same iron in our blood from the three rivers. It's just a true honor to be here. Yeah, and I like that you're putting a little spotlight on Coach Coward because as a fellow, Inzer as well. We, uh, we love that man. Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to Hall of Fame
Starting point is 01:55:45 Yenzer legend. Coach Bill Cowher. Yeah. Yeah. Coach, what are your thoughts? Immediate reaction. What are your thoughts? So, so, tone, I guess that's my chin, huh? Yeah. Well, see the, see the thing coaches, I don't have a chin. I learned that the other day when I shaved my beard, so I had to, you know, come up with this prosthetic. Yeah. I love the fact. at you, we are from the same bloodlines, the three rivers that, the convergence of the three rivers, that landed in Three Rivers Stadium, that went to Highsfield, and now sits in Zachrshire. And we are playing the Indianapolis Colts this week, as you know. It's a reunion of the 2005 championship teams. I'm going back there this afternoon and be with the boys
Starting point is 01:56:32 tonight. I mean, give him a talk tomorrow. Ben's going to pick me up for a go to the walkthrough hopefully I get a picture with Arod and Mike, myself, and Ben. Okay, let's see. That was a pretty remarkable game, Pat. I don't know if you remember that game in 2005. Let's talk about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I remember. It was a game. You always say there was Evan Flo in every game. We came out and got off to an early start. At one point in the third, fourth quarter, we actually sacked Peyton three consecutive times. He had problems with the
Starting point is 01:57:08 protection at that time. All we had to do at that point up by three was basically, I didn't want to just sit on it because you would have enough time. So it handed a ball to Jerome. And Jerome, who has never fumbled all year, he happened to fumble a ball
Starting point is 01:57:24 on that particular play. And the only people we had in the field that time was a bunch of linemen and slow tight ends. And so as Harper picked it up, who ironically enough had an incident at his home the day before, but he took off, Ben going backwards, tripped him up, and right there may have been the best tackle of the entire playoff. Here it is. All you got to do is just
Starting point is 01:57:50 don't fumble. And now we are up by three, and we're sitting there with Peyton at the midfield. He throws two balls into the end zone to our rookie Brian McFadden. They both fall in complete. but you have like a 52-yard field goal by Mike Vanderjacked who was the most accurate field goal kicker at the time and so I called I called timeout to ice him he looked at me like what are you doing
Starting point is 01:58:18 I'm thinking what else am I going to do I only got one more time out left he missed it that game was epic only because of fact earlier in the season we lost three straight games and one was an embarrassment
Starting point is 01:58:31 on Monday night in Indianapolis to that same team so that was kind of a revenge tour we had that season. We won eight straight that year and won a championship, six of which were on the road. And it was kind of a sense of it was kind of a revenge. First was Cincinnati, the last team we lost two. The second was Indianapolis who embarrassed us on Monday night. And tone, the third one was Denver. And we had enough history with Denver to say, we're going to beat you in your place, Mike Shanahan. That was an aspect meeting. And then we went to Seattle and went to Detroit,
Starting point is 01:59:00 going up there in a Motown. We were the home team. I said, nope, we are the away team. We were in our white jerseys because we've been underdog this entire trip because you said no 60 can ever go to a Super Bowl, let alone even win one. So you know what? We're not only going to do it and we're going to do it as a road dog. And that's what we did. Yeah, and Jerome Betis's his hometown. He went a Super Bowl for the bus on the way out. What an absolutely wonderful story. Yeah, I got absolute chills you reminiscing on the greatness of that 2005 team. I graduated high school in 2005 and in 2006. So we were living that with you, brother. You need to know we were living along with. side of that. Are you speaking to the current team? Because what you just said there is like,
Starting point is 01:59:39 hey, hard times during the season. Then we got hot and we started rolling. It was a revenge star. Are you speaking to the boys? I have to go up to Buffalo on Sunday for CBS. I got to leave Saturday night. But I think the bottom line is sometimes the depth of despair can take you to the heights of hope. And that's what we were able to go through when you talk about losing three straight games at November. We lose seven and two, go to seven and five. Everybody's counting out. There's a great story. I'll share this with you, Pat, and we'll probably talk about it. I'm going to talk about Saturday night.
Starting point is 02:00:09 We're getting ready on a Friday night that played at Cincinnati Bengals worth six-seat, and, you know, Mr. Rooney comes into my office about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. Everybody's gone. He says, Coach, how are we doing? I go, Mr. Ruhn, I think we're good. We had a good week work. I mean, Cincinnati, we know them well. I think we'll be okay.
Starting point is 02:00:25 He goes, well, I want to give you something here. I go, well, listen, I go, I go, what is it? He goes, so Rosary Beats. I go, I'm not even Catholic. He goes, just take him. I said, well, I go, we don't need any luck. He said, coach, every little bit helps. So I said, okay.
Starting point is 02:00:38 So I took him, put him in my pocket. And I sat there and also in Indianapolis game. After Mappen got that ball back after the drone fumble, I went in my pocket. I started holding that thing. I go, come on, baby. Work your juju. Come on, man. Come on, come on, baby.
Starting point is 02:00:55 So I had a hell of him. And we won that game. Vanger checks lining up. I called time out. I went to my pocket. I go, okay, come on, baby. Come on, Rosary Beats. misses we go out to Denver it's about you know 10 or 4 I'm shaking hands we're coming in right
Starting point is 02:01:09 getting ready to come to the huddle I go shoot I ran into the huddle I ran into the locker room I go where's coach going I let's go to the bathroom is he nervous I go no I go I forgot the rosary beads so I had to go in there got them back put it in my pocket and to this day I still have them I'm going to pull them out on Saturday night as I meet with some of the guys and just talk about the element of what it happens with that football team it starts started at the top. It trickles down. We were a special unit because we all had a degree of sacrifice. We all had a degree of commitment. And we all learned to trust one another and have each other's back. It wasn't our most talented team, but it was our closest team. And that's what
Starting point is 02:01:49 I'm proud of. And so sometimes I sit there and say, no matter where you are, the depths of despair can take you to the heights of hope. That's a bar right there, coach. That's why you're a Hall of Famer. That's why we're proud to have you as the Inzer and front of the program. You're the man. And also, the inspo for Tone Diggs on this beautiful Halloween. Ladies and gentlemen. Tone, you made my Halloween, brother. I love it. Thank you. You made my childhood, coach.
Starting point is 02:02:14 So thank you. Oh, yes. We love that. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Bill Carr. Thank you, coach. All right. Let's take a break on the other side. We'll make all our picks. Then we'll get out of here on this happy Halloween. Feel Good Friday. October 31st, 2025. What a day this is. in. What a day.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Just Bill Cowher popping? That guy. Did you know what's coming? I had a feeling, yeah. I was kind of pieced together there late. And Bill Cowher was like, can't wait, so excited, so pumped. He's actually pumped that you did that. Look at you. It's awesome.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Winning people over, because in the past it's gone on the opposite. Yeah. Got got fired pretty much, dude. One of people who are doing that too. Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game. Introducing the all-new ESPN. app. All of ESPN, all in one place.
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Starting point is 02:04:00 and give our picks for the weekend. We got to say shout to Zito and team for putting together the spooky, spooky, spooky Halloween decorations. They did a great job. And this is Skelly. This is the one that got taken. That's a local sports and weatherman, Ed, Edward Simpson. Yep.
Starting point is 02:04:17 That was the Skelly that was taken and returned to AQ Shipley by those frat boys that were taught a lesson in a hard time with 50 push-ups while they were getting scolded on the streets. Now, can you imagine if another group of frat boys come and take Skelly out of his yard again after he was already returned. I'm just wondering if there's a rival frat that wants to come and take Skelly. Hopefully not.
Starting point is 02:04:38 So I think what had happened was from the messages that I've seen from it, it was actually owned frat, turn in, and then also other frat saying, we don't want to do that. That ain't what we want to do. Oh, okay. We don't want to be disrespectful, Mr. Shipley. You know, the one guy actually, from what we've been told, actually said profusely to his group, no skeletons.
Starting point is 02:05:00 this year, boys. Okay, no, skeletons. So these guys, whenever you talk about feeling bad, this group, and then every group, every fraternity in a state, from what I've been told said, that ain't how this is supposed to go. Not supposed to steal the daughter's
Starting point is 02:05:14 favorite skeleton that's out front, making it spooky season and celebrating Halloween, and now they can smile again and the boys return it did the right thing. We salute them. Yeah, I do. It works. Talks to tables here at Harry Potter and Heavenly Hulk Hogan. Hulkster, what are your thoughts on Skelly getting
Starting point is 02:05:30 stolen. That seems like a one-way trip to hell, brother. They return it almost reverse a little card. Let's go ahead and send right back to heaven, maybe. Is that how you think it'll be viewed by St. Peter? We'll see. He's a pretty tough critic, so I don't know. Is it? Really? Boy, me. I'm just saying that.
Starting point is 02:05:46 He is, yes, yes. What did you say? Yeah, well. You got something to say with that fucking stupid-looking haircut. Hey, I remember you said a couple hours ago, hey, how about being Tempe in a couple years? your career's done pal you're going to fucking die in toledo ohio
Starting point is 02:06:03 doing some bullshit newscasts that no one's watching if you're a weatherman i can you know i'm joan and ardo who may i just add how's he doing he's a lovely guy so it's that we got that he made any of the grave you so i was just going to say we actually have an eclectic bunch that comes over to my house every sunday night uh you remember big top callahan yes bry denahey he he He's there, and then we got Regis Philbin.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Wow. DeKembe Mutubo. What? And then, yeah, obviously, Joe and Ardo comes over. It's one of us. No, Mongo? McMichael. Mago is by my hip wherever I go.
Starting point is 02:06:43 He's one of the horsemen, obviously. You know, I mean, me and him weren't exactly the tightest when we were in the WCW, but me and, me and Mago, we see a lot. So, yeah, he'll stop over for Sunday Gravy every once in a while. It's kind of tough with, you know, Joe and Arno. We didn't start out on them. Bestfoot because... What?
Starting point is 02:07:00 Well, my name is Terry Belaya, okay? Guess who also knows how to make some Sunday gravy? The Hulkster does, dude. And I'm talking so much protein and oregano. You put Italian sausage, pork sausage. Tomatoes the freshest, obviously. The freshest tomato? Well, that's one nice thing about being up here is the big guy don't fuck around
Starting point is 02:07:19 with produce. It's so fresh everywhere you go. But yeah, you know, my Sunday gravy, obviously, everybody loves it. They come from miles and miles around. Joe's gravy's pretty good, too. Okay, all right. Well, I'm happy to see you two Pisanz up there, really, making everybody happy. One half of the Hammer, Cowboys, Coach Cowher is here.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Now, let's dive in to the games here. Last night, we were both on the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, we were. Minus seven and a half. We get the win, which is not good, by the way, for the NFL. If both of us were on the Ravens and for us to win, then the game had to be obviously more than a one-score difference at the end. It was.
Starting point is 02:07:56 And Miami didn't look terrible at the beginning. Now, could have taken a field goal, could have made a field goal. That thing could have been 14-12 at halftime. Okay? Instead, it's 14-6. Then the second half goes how it goes. And inevitably, the Baltimore Ravens is who everybody thought they could potentially be. They get a huge win on Thursday football. We kind of forecasted that.
Starting point is 02:08:14 Did we not, Eddie Simpson? Yeah, we did. We thought seven and a half was a lot, but we knew the Ravens were going to cover. Yeah, and we like the Ravens going forward because, you know, who else likes the Ravens going forward? The sports books. Now, let's not think about the sports books. Let's take a look see here at who the public is on.
Starting point is 02:08:28 You know, there's been quite. a story to be told throughout this NFL season on who the public betting or the public money exactly is upon. 87% on the Lions hosting the Vikings. 88% on the Chargers traveling to the
Starting point is 02:08:42 Tennessee Titans team that just got blown out by the Colts last week. 82% on the Broncos? That's only plus one and a half, though. So they're just thinking that they win the game, even though the Houston Texans last week, it looked unbelievable. Almost 80% on the Chargers at 78%. Same with the Seahawks when they're
Starting point is 02:08:59 traveling to Washington. That's a long way to go to be three-point favorites. Patriot 77%, 75% on the Colts against the Steelers. Three and a half point spread there. Okay, a lot of people thinking the Colts offense is going to do what it's going to do. But maybe this is the game that kind of ignites that Pittsburgh Steelers team like the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers, who took a couple losses, then turned that into motivation and then ran the table and they're going to be celebrating that in Acresure this weekend. That feels like a big deal. Jacksonville Jaguars is getting 74%. Good for Liam. Only two and a half.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Yeah, only two and a half point favorites, which is why maybe 74% are on that. But even traveling to the Raiders, the Jaguars as a whole, having that many people believe in them at that. Congrats to him. Cowboys, 68%. There might be $100 billion underneath the ground. So there's a chance that if they win or lose,
Starting point is 02:09:47 it does not matter. Panthers taking on the Green Bay Packers, almost at 70% on the pack minus 12.5. That's a huge spread. Bill's favored by two and a half at home. 66% of the folks are saying, Listen, I've seen what this regular season matchup looks like in the past and the bills win that. And then the Bengals at 60% over the Bears and the Niners at 64% over the Giants.
Starting point is 02:10:08 All right. So that's where the public lies. We will certainly need to be reminded as we go through here and pick each one of these games individually. Let's start with the Broncos at the Texans. Broncos getting a lot of the money. Texans favored by one and a half down there in Houston. Edward Simpson, AJ Hawk, who do you like? How do you like it?
Starting point is 02:10:26 So do we tone, do we not? want to be on the public side? Actually, you know, at the beginning of the year, you did not, but... The beginning of the year, like, the first six weeks. Yes, yes, the first six, seven, seven weeks. The last two weeks, the public has been a lot better. This last week in there, including last night, it's a six-and-six run on teams getting 60% or more again.
Starting point is 02:10:47 So you're not winning. So the first seven weeks, it was asked, and then it's become a little fit, maybe, maybe the public's right? But Monday night and then last night, they were both 70%, so. is it starting to become too obvious with the string of games that we've had for the first time since 1970. Let's see if we have any blowouts,
Starting point is 02:11:06 like a whole slate of poopy games again. Now, the favorites did a big time W-fest last weekend. A lot of favorites just blew out the teams that weren't supposed to be good. Houston Texans favored over the Broncos at home. C.J. Stroud had a good week last week. Denver Broncos are who everybody thinks they are, I think. The Denver
Starting point is 02:11:23 Broncos coming in the season at Super Bowl. Go ahead, Con. Yeah, massive loss is no certain. this week. He's now out for four to six weeks with that strain peck. That's a big deal. Definitely changed a lot. The under here is definitely nice. I was leaning somewhat heavy
Starting point is 02:11:39 Broncos. You know what? With how C.J. Stroudon, they are playing with a certain out, give me the Texans. Okay, I'll take the Texans as well. Falcons, Patriots, Patriots favored by five and a half at home. Any super duper lighter uppers happening up there in New England? I'm not
Starting point is 02:11:55 sure about the super duper lighter uppers. I know Lauren Skye did it last week. Yeah, Hubey Prether King. He is a dog, Larry guy. Former teammate of mine, absolute dog. Yeah, he's a Green Bay. He's a great matchup for New England. This is a great matchup for New England.
Starting point is 02:12:09 They haven't allowed a 50-yard rusher yet. And even with Panics back and Drake London, and Drake London is still kind of questionable. Christian Gonzalez is the best player on New England. He'll take out Drake London. So I actually do really like the Patriots here, which, again, might be a really, really bad sign. No Ramandre Stevenson, so Trevionn Henderson's second round pick at Ohio State now kind of becomes a premier guy.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Very excited to watch it. Yeah, he's a great player, Holmester. There's Trevionn Henderson. He's an absolute dog whenever we last saw him play. Now he's potentially going to get the load, if you will, of the runs for this Patriots team. Falcons lose to the dolphins pretty bad. But they're like this, aren't they? They are, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:53 I literally said on game, it was it two weeks ago. I think it was Michigan. I was like, Michigan is like this. So this is literally what Michigan is like. Last week they were like this. So this week, that means they're going to be like this. Only reason why I picked them. Literally the only reason why I picked them.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Falcons kind of like that as well. Wouldn't this be like the bad week to face the Falcons with how their season is gone, Hulkster? Well, I think that's why if you're a Patriots fan, you're very excited to watch this game. Because yeah, conventional wisdom would say, hey, this week to Falcons, you're going to perform, dude. They've kind of been horse shit every other week.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Kirk Cousers ain't playing. Listen, I love Kurt. Might be time to stick a fork in that guy. What? He might be done. Forking, Kirk? Yeah, I think so, especially when you're paying him $28 million. Man, what a bad idea that was.
Starting point is 02:13:37 But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you got the young guy in pedics. He looks pretty good. But if you're a Patriots fan, this is the week where you can kind of emphatically say, hey, we're a really good team. We're supposed to get, you know, Atlanta's best shot. And if we go out there and just go belt the ass, beat the piss out of them, then yeah, yeah, we are the kids.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Cousin's going to get a pair of those. Kurt Couss. Without a doubt, I, you know, I don't do too much of that stuff, you know, getting the predictive markets of where certain people are going to be up there. But yeah, you know, just in kind of passing conversation, St. Peter has said, I'll tell you what, I really like to cut of that Kirk Cous's Jim. I don't know if he's going to get the 23-inch, you know, wings. He might be more of a 16 to 18-inch guy, but I guess we'll see.
Starting point is 02:14:23 What are normal python sizes compared to yours, little than the wings? I know you've got bigger wings, but what are normal pythons? I usually don't even keep track because the holsters are so fucking big. Usually I'd say, I don't know, you know, 11 to 12 inches. Like AJ Hawker. You're a 23-inch pythons. What do you think? Go ahead and give a flex for me, son.
Starting point is 02:14:44 You can't release my arm. Yeah, I can tell, yeah. I mean, what is that, 12? You know, holsters basically doubling up, AJ Hogg. No way. Yeah. I'm here. I don't think that's...
Starting point is 02:14:53 Oh, I don't know. Actually, can you hit me with one of these? No, I'm all right. they go fuck yourself you suck I'm not done I'm not done with you I thought you're in heaven
Starting point is 02:15:03 you're not supposed to how many times if I said boo I can do whatever the fuck I want baby I am a real
Starting point is 02:15:10 American five for the right I was everyone else reacted him up there I would imagine they don't love this he's got those there's no way
Starting point is 02:15:18 they can love this up there he said that's a plightum card he said those are the black Amex dude Amex Amex
Starting point is 02:15:26 I have to. Basically what things are. They ain't getting declined anywhere. With that being said, I'll take the Patriots. Okay. Good pick. I'll flex those muscles with the Patriots as well, Hogster. I love it.
Starting point is 02:15:46 You guys are on one today, dude. On spread. Five and a half. It's big. It's a big spray. We do have some. stats on size of biceps. We looked them up and this is what
Starting point is 02:15:59 AI had to say. There's three different degrees of biceps. There's untrained male. That's 13 to 14 inches is what I think you were trying to say, Alkster, to AJ. There's an active bond, you know, maybe a runner, a mover, but not necessarily a lifter. 14 to 16 inch bifthons.
Starting point is 02:16:16 And then bodybuilders, obviously, they got 16, 20 inches, but we know that's not true because the top end of that thing is 20 is the roof. Hulkster's more than just a bodybuilder, and he's got 23 inch pythons, but what AI's saying is, what you got strapped to your shoulders right now, not normal Hulkster. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:16:32 They actually forgot, and it's not, you know, yeah, there is bodybuilders, and then there's one more category, and it's the Hulkster. And guess who sits in that category? The Hulkster and nobody else, okay? Maybe Big Black, I know he had, you know, which, again, lovely guy, lovely guy. Robin Bigg, you hang out with him? Well, I don't know, what do you think? I just said he's a lovely guy.
Starting point is 02:16:53 So do you think, baby? He didn't say he's over for the cooking out? Baby, I spent it. Do you know how much time I got to kill up here? All of it. How much you could do? Okay, I'm happy to hear that. By the way, we're all happy to hear that.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Hardy looked like he had some 23s on him. Wouldn't that count? Hardy, did you wake up on the wrong side of a truck bed this morning? Can you come, can you let the Hulkster maybe come see what he thinks the size of the biceps the pythons are in right now? What category is that? I'll tell you what, D-Bone is living his best life. He looks great. He's living his best life.
Starting point is 02:17:29 Hardy said that was sick, okay? They really? Yeah, I just want to let you know that, D-Bone. I think there's a nod of approval from Hardy there. Hulkster, if you had to look and eyeball these pythons, what would you be saying there? That's what I'm talking about. $2.23. I like that.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Hey, can you back up just a little bit? Back up just a little? No, like that way. Yeah, because Java's kind of, yeah. What do you think there, Hulkster? I'll tell you what. I like the cut of this young man's gym. It's just the only thing I'm really noticing is the 53-inch.
Starting point is 02:17:55 waste. That's the only thing that my eyes are going to. So 42? That's not bad, but we need to trim that down a little bit. Aren't you only like 25, dude? Come on, get healthy, bro. He's a D3 national champion. I know, but you know what he also did? He said, well, I need a solo cup for my costume. You ain't get one over on the Holksdry. I've seen how many
Starting point is 02:18:17 fucking Dr. Peppers you've been drinking today, dude. He's been just empty. That's Halloween Hawkser. We're supposed to celebrate. That's what we're here for. You know, we're having What's your favorite candy, hoaxer? Call me crazy. I'm a good and plenty guy. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 02:18:31 You like those, too? Yeah, I knew I liked you. No, but it's one of those things where I get it is hot weed. We should celebrate. Do we need to be drinking 16, 12-ounce Dr. Pepper's before 3 o'clock in the afternoon? I don't think so. He's not going to be honest with us. I know how much candy that guy's eating tonight.
Starting point is 02:18:49 Okay, he needs to enjoy it, obviously, especially with the text from Hardy. Well, yeah. He's having a hell of a day. You look good, brother. How do you think about his U-ball performances lately? Have you seen him? I did saw him yesterday. He needs to get rid of the, I mean, I know he became a pioneer.
Starting point is 02:19:05 He thought that was a big deal. I haven't seen him make one of them fuckers in like two weeks. He needs to start shooting the U-ball. Shoot the U-ball, son. Okay. Happy Halloween and Hardy. Happy Halloween, dude. Oh, we are all right.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Man. We had no idea. how this was going to go. I had a pretty good idea. I'm happy to hear that. We're both on the Patriots. That makes everybody happy out here, no matter what the waste or the pythons are.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Carolina Panthers, Green Bay Packers, Packers favored by 12 and a half. Any other lines out there, Tone? There actually is. Sorry, Coach. You can get anywhere from 13 and a half if you want the Panthers down to that 12 and a half if you're on the pack. Okay, so you can add an extra.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Panthers quarterback, Bryce Young, has no injury designation for Sunday, meaning he's good to go versus the Packers, says Adam Schaefter. Bryce Young back getting a lot of points if you want them in Lambo. Man, 12 and a half points. What do they know that we don't know? I know the Packers are good.
Starting point is 02:20:08 I know Jordan Love is good, but I think the Panthers are pretty good too with Bryce in there. I'll pick the Panthers plus 13 and a half. I'll take Panthers plus 13 and a half. Give me the Packers, actually. What's that old butt? 12 and a half, right? Yeah, give me the Packers.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Micah's heating up. What do you have? How many sacks last game? Just what? You're saying no backdoor cover because Micah at the end of the game. Is that what you're saying? Micah is kind of a backdoor cover machine. For real.
Starting point is 02:20:30 That's when they feast. That's when you get those sacks. That's a great. Actually, that is something to think about here because in my mind, it's like, Bryce Young, good player. Bryce Young, good player. Carolina Panthers is a good team, we think. Like, not ass.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Four and four. Yeah, we think they're a good team. Going into the season, I don't think anybody had any expectations because they're Carolina Panthers and everything like that, but they are a good team. I think they're only going to continue to be a good team in that NFC South. 13 points feels like a lot of points It just feels like a lot of points for that team
Starting point is 02:20:58 This strikes me as a recency bias type deal because the Panthers did not look good last week and granted it was Andy Dalton he basically came out afterward and said like I didn't tell anybody but I had a fucking broken thumb the entire time so not easy to play quarterback we got broken thumb dude but then you also look at the Packers
Starting point is 02:21:14 big time emotional win you know Jordan Love looked unbelievably he was the FedEx Air player of the week so maybe that's you know getting into this a little bit How'd you know he's the... You pay attention all the... I read the tabloids quite a bit.
Starting point is 02:21:28 You know, just check in, see what's going on. And maybe, I don't know, maybe I have a little say in who, uh, who's gonna win, you know, the... That's FedEx Air. Air Player of the Week. I also am big.
Starting point is 02:21:40 I kind of spearheaded the, Hey, who's the Pepsi rookie of the week? That was also, you know, one of the Holsters, kind of big moves. Who is that this week? Ah, shit. I don't know. Probably, I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 02:21:53 rookie off the top of my head I don't know Tyler Warren probably that's some bitch wins it every week so maybe him this strikes me as a game that the Packers win by 10 though
Starting point is 02:22:03 I'm right there with you I don't man that's a tough number 13's a lot yeah all right good for me with the Panthers hopefully I look like a smart guy with that pick as opposed to just
Starting point is 02:22:13 not going with the obvious the Packers are very good and maybe we're not showing them enough respect in the conversation of what can happen in the NFC but the sports books like what they're at okay let's go the Chargers, traveling to Tennessee,
Starting point is 02:22:25 Chargers, nine and a half point favorites against Tennessee Titans team that just got decimated by the Indianapolis Colts. I'll say this from watching this team. Cam Ward's electrifying. He is electrifying. Now, I don't know how much of it is like, hey, this is sustainable in NFL
Starting point is 02:22:39 because he's making like these nasty. We've over top of a linebacker in front of a safety guy running 20 miles an hour across the field, perfect throws, under duress. I mean, he's doing shit that's like outrageous with that and their team stinks. So if the team was to get very good, you would
Starting point is 02:22:58 assume that Cam Ward becomes guy like everybody else. But then, you know, they're going to get caught into a who's coach, when's coach, who's coach, when's coach if they don't figure that out. So I'm very worried about potentially Cam Ward's entire career, especially with the glimpse that we saw in person at the Loudhouse this past weekend. On that
Starting point is 02:23:14 note, Colts steamrolled them. And Colts are a very, very, very good football team. So I think outside of Indianapolis, outside the Colts fan base, everybody says, well, this Titans team must be asked if the Colts did that to them. It's like this Colts team best team in football right now. And the Titans have ruled out Calvin Ridley
Starting point is 02:23:29 again. Jeffrey Simmons again. They weren't playing last week. Arden Key and Xavier Woods for Sunday's game against the Chargers. Go ahead, Conman. I would just look at all four of those guys to be traded by Monday. That is the one thing going into this weekend. That's interesting is all these poopy
Starting point is 02:23:45 teams, the guys who aren't playing, they just seem to be types of guys that might get moved. Okay, so that's potentially decision like let's not get hurt let's get not get these guys hurt we know where we're at we know it's possible and good business could potentially to be get rid of some of our good parts so that we can build this thing in the future around cam ward not that those guys wouldn't be helping him but also get rid of your best players is telling the entire fan base like yeah it's going to be a wall yeah two months the regular season left too that's what's crazy yeah already
Starting point is 02:24:13 already fired their coach and jefferson has been you know hurt for a little so it might also just be a lingering and ridley as well yeah so he was out of last week at least. So, you know, the Colts, people around the Colts, people in the building, we're expecting the Colts to beat the hell out of the Titans. They're like, we should beat the hell out of this team. They're hurt too. Like, it's not good. And then
Starting point is 02:24:33 they go out and do that, it's like, hell yeah. On the other side, if you're a Titans fan, that's not good to hear from the Indianapolis Colts saying that. No, it's not. I was actually going to lean Titans for a little bit on this game. And then, obviously, you've seen Jeffrey Simmons, all these guys still out now. Give me the Chargers. Cam special watching them, though.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Remembering in Camp, what he was doing? Like, when From the day he stepped into that franchise, like into the building there, it was unbelievable, everything about him. But the offense needs to, he's got a new offense coming, another one coming already into his NFL career. Don't we all think, though, they're like NFL to win, the offense has to be like on time, scripted, everything has to be like that. Cam's obviously going to continue to develop and kind of get in that because you think about back to Miami, there was some magic happening all over the place. him and Restrepo were connected at the hip, seemingly, as they were dominating everybody. A lot of football gods blessing them as well. I'm sure you see the football gods up there running around.
Starting point is 02:25:26 All the time, we meet every Wednesday night, dude. Wednesdays because there's no games on, and then is that why the football gods are kind of freed up? Yeah, typically they'll come over. Obviously, they love real American beer as well, so, you know, they'll have a couple ponds with me. And yeah, we kind of just chat about the league as a whole. Hey, look for this thing this weekend, Holkster. Football guys are going to bless them. Oh, so it's kind of like inside information you're getting on what?
Starting point is 02:25:47 what the games are going to happen on most hucks i didn't know that was happening up there did you know that ed i had no clue it's crazy especially with what's going on down here who's your favorite player you got a couple favorite players like two or three like currently here we're talking like right right now current right now who are your favorite current players in the league right now right now um i mean i'd like the cut of that day of jose's jib i really do i like that guy a lot man uh who else do i like cooper de jean i can see you liking him i love him obviously re-blanky chip love him. Riley Moss, love him. I mean,
Starting point is 02:26:22 I could, honestly, I could just go on it on and on it. Patrick Ricard, don't you? Yeah, I love that he's healthy. I maybe knew that a couple weeks ago. What week he was coming back, dude? Maybe, Do you like Lamar a lot? I actually, you know what? I have come around on Lamar. I was a big, this guy's
Starting point is 02:26:37 a running back, playing quarterback. A lot of people are saying. A lot of people are saying that. That guy's quarterback. Yeah, he's unbelievable. There's a couple throws last night. I mean, you're talking like, yeah. Seeds on the run Just doing insane stuff Him being able to do that
Starting point is 02:26:52 After pulling the ping pong tables And everything He's special guy Let's go to the next game Let's go Chargers, Titans Who do you officially take? I am taking the Chargers Me as well
Starting point is 02:27:02 Let's go to San Francisco 49ers Taking on the New York Giants Niners favored by two and a half heading into MetLife Stadium Who do you like? How do you like it, AJ? What am I missing here Only two and a half?
Starting point is 02:27:15 Should it be more? I mean I guess Texans had like 98% of possession against San Fran last week. No Fred, no Bosa on the defensive side. Go ahead. One o'clock game for a West Coast team on the East Coast. Yeah, you just add that into all the other.
Starting point is 02:27:29 He did the Giants. Yeah, I'll take the Giants as well. I think we're seeing it the same. That might be reasonancy bias from what we just saw from the Niners, but it was not good. I'm seeing Jackson Dartley. Let's go. I was watching on the Pat McAfee,
Starting point is 02:27:39 and I saw the boys actually liked us to win. That's pretty late. He's not going to like this. We're wearing the best jerseys and football as well. I got to paw it up for you right there. Boom. Those are pretty... Those are much nicer than the, you know, we saw on Sunday night.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Yeah, the all yellow the charges were. They tried to take your gimmick almost. Yeah, and there's a reason everybody hates that, because they look at yellow, and they associate that with Tolcomedia, brother, now and forevermore. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 02:28:17 I'm a real American. Fight for your ride. Fight for your life, dude. Wednesday nights with the football gods have to be so much fun. They're the best. Dude, I couldn't even... You got a band up there? You're playing bass up there still?
Starting point is 02:28:32 Did you even listen to anything I said earlier? No, really, no. The Holkshire doesn't need to play the bass when you got fucking Ozzy Osbourne and Meatloaf and guys like that coming up and saying, hey, Hulkster. You might sit down? I'll do... I would do anything. anything for love right now.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Guess what? Yes, you will, meet love. Take the fucking stage, dude. Who are your favorite players that are up there now with you from the NFL? From the NFL? I was going to say, don't make the old. I was not prepared for this question, and I don't want to get any guys pissed off. Because guess what?
Starting point is 02:29:06 We're not talking about these guys when they pass. We're talking about, you know, mean, lean, fighting machines from when they're in their mid-20s. Oh, so that's the answer. So that's what you show up as your best version. If you want to, if you have options. Yeah, you know, if you wanted to be, like Marlon Brando, for example. Yeah. Obviously, he was the godfather.
Starting point is 02:29:25 He's Doc Corleo. He gained like 150 pounds when he was in Apocalypse now. Basically he just turned into like a fat slob. When he got up to heaven, he said, nah, fuck it. I want to be the fat slob version of me. And everyone was like, Marlon, you're the man, dude. So it's kind of, it's kind of dealer's choice. It's up to you.
Starting point is 02:29:45 You're breaking a lot of news I try, you know Not everyone's fortunate enough To get up there, brother That's the The Foo Manchu Very strong It makes sense now
Starting point is 02:29:58 Especially with how big the biceps are That you pick the best version of This is the greatest Hulkster That you had The entire run, you think? I think you could argue that again When I was, you know, running hot with Nash and Hall in, you know, like 95
Starting point is 02:30:12 Yeah, but you're going to be NWO Exactly You can't be a heel up there because nobody's going to walk over your house, dude, nobody's going to want to come to Hogan's hang out. A lot of baby faces up there. A lot of baby faces up there.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Exactly. So, you know, it's like, could I have, and every once in a while, I will, you know, I'll grow the black beard back and just to see what people will do,
Starting point is 02:30:29 I'll stroll right. They got paint up there? Yeah, well, you know, not really paint. I'll just wake up and be like, hey, St. Peter, I want to look like Hollywood Hulk Hogan today.
Starting point is 02:30:38 Boom! Just happens immediately. And sometimes I'll just walk right down the main stripping. A beat, I kind of remember people, yeah, Hulk still got that fastball, too. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Yes, he does. Vikings at Lions, Lions favored by nine and a half at home against the Vikings. Interesting conversations around the Vikings were had earlier today by us. Oh, yeah. But with the trade deadline looming and no answers, really, for some teams,
Starting point is 02:31:08 especially teams that were like in contention to be the number one seed in the NFC just last year We're going to have a lot of, you know, questions still. It's very important. Like, JJ McCarthy's guy, okay, sounds good. We appreciate that. Saw him do a shed drill, shed sprawl, shed sprawl drill last week. So we're assuming he's getting healthier to be back there.
Starting point is 02:31:26 Trade deadline Tuesday, who knows who's buying, who's selling, who's making massive moves. We assume somebody will. But the Vikings vastly different place than we thought they were going to be in. And the Lions also, if you ask Schrager's going into the year, you lose both coordinators. I don't think it's going to be as good of a year. Let's go ahead and just completely reverse that. The lion's sitting where the brand new lions have been sitting. Now, Foxy, nine-and-a-half-point favorites at home.
Starting point is 02:31:50 How do you feel about it? Yeah, Lions coming off the buy week, by the way. And if you remember, two weeks ago, we played the box. Secondary was absolutely ravage. We're getting Terry and Arnold back. We're getting Brian Branch back. But Kirby Joseph, DJ Reid, still out. But J.J. McCarthy homecoming game,
Starting point is 02:32:06 when the Lions are favored by a lot at home, over the last two, three years, they tend to cover the spread. I'll just leave you guys at that. Okay. Con, man, which way do you lean in this particular match? It feels as though it's going to be a panic in Minnesota on Monday, and the Lions might be kind of hitting their stride a bit here. So I'm definitely – I love the Lions.
Starting point is 02:32:29 Coach Cowher, you like MCDC. I think you see a lot of yourself potentially in the way he operates. What do you think about this game? Love MCDC. Divisional game. I took the Lions. You get them at minus eight and a half. You don't like the vibes.
Starting point is 02:32:42 going on in Minnesota right now. Ed Simpson, what are your thoughts? I like the Lions here, too. I can get him at eight and a half, you say, Tone? Yep. Yeah. I mean, this is going to be, can you imagine the environment? What time is it? noon or? One o'clock. One o'clock? One o'clock game? Okay. It's still going to be a raucous environment. I don't know if Kid Rock is playing
Starting point is 02:32:58 halftime, but either way that place is going to be going. He did his costume the other day. He did. Geez. I'll take the Lions. Let's go to the next one. Colts versus Steelers. I like Colts, My three and a half. over there in Ackeshire. The only worry is that that spray-painted dirt
Starting point is 02:33:16 might be going too fast into people's eyes as Jonathan Taylor is doing his thing against that Pittsburgh Steelers' defense. He's going to pop off at least one or two long ones. I mean, that's just what the Colts have been doing and have kind of consistently shown to be who they are. Explosive plays in the run game and then also Danny Dimes doing his thing. Only three and a half, Coach Coward.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Did you expect that or did you think it was going to be a little bit more? And on that note, half is being said about the Indianapolis Colts in 2025, heading in to play. On the road, too. On the road. Yeah, I thought it was going to be more. You can get minus three if you want, not that you're going to need it. Jonathan Taylor's going to have one or two of those runs, a drive.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Geez. Two tons of drive. What is it? The depths of despair. Can take you to the heights of hope. Coach ain't walking through that door. He is. He is.
Starting point is 02:34:10 He's going to walker. going to speak to the team on Saturday, not this current team, the team that won Super Bowl in 2005. Colts haven't won it in Pittsburgh since 2008. I assume that's going to change. Wow. I'm thinking this might...
Starting point is 02:34:23 They haven't won a game in Pittsburgh since 2008? A lot of hard times, Indianapolis Colts versus the Pittsburgh Steelers for my particular era of Indianapolis Colts time. Big games for the Pittsburgh Steelers have come against Indianapolis Colts. Everybody's playing the best football that they've ever played in their life against Indianapolis
Starting point is 02:34:39 coaches with Pittsburgh Steelers, including Troy Pomer and Muller. They just has a sense to do everything wrong in a moment where he needs to go left. He goes right somehow. I love that, man. But a lot of people on the internet are saying, like, this could be in Texas A&M versus LSU situation where it's a blowout. The stadium's empty in the fourth quarter. Rooney's looking around like, oh, we need to make a change.
Starting point is 02:34:57 I don't know. That's what you were just saying about Minnesota. We got a couple of those coming down the pipe here for the NFL. I like the Colts minus three and a half. AJ, your thoughts on the game and who you like? Yeah, I like the Colts minus three and a half. I mean, does the Steelers' defense figure it out? I don't think this is the week to figure it out against Danny Jones and Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 02:35:17 So now, give me the Colts. Okay, so you like the Colts minus three and a half. Do you think the quarterback for the Steelers are going to be mad at Edward Simpson for picking the Colts in this particular game? If he ever became aware of the pick of Ed Simpson, sure. I'm sure he'd, you know, have a snarky remark. Yeah, I think there probably would be. Oh, yeah, it's cool, bro. That's cool.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Lose some hope. Lose some hope. I saw a good Halloween party coming out of Pittsburgh. I heard about it too. I heard about it too. Boy, celebrate, that's good news. A couple losses. Maybe they don't want to be around each other.
Starting point is 02:35:47 Why we spend in time? They do Halloween. Maybe that changes it. And on the other side of the field, the Indianapolis Colts, yeah, and Max's participation at the Halloween party. And they're having good times. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:59 Mm-hmm. Love that move. That's an elite move. I didn't know that move still existed. Me neither. In 2025. From what I've been told at team gathering, social, sorry, camaraderie building gathering. Sure.
Starting point is 02:36:19 From what I have been told from Colts. One of players, okay, on team, not just on team in general. Two cups, drinks, okay? Yeah. Maybe found one, made another one, had one from earlier, found where it was, okay, now you have to. Or just straight up, I'll take two, please you. Because I won't come back here with a lot of people or whatever the case is. And allegedly, somebody's coming up to leave.
Starting point is 02:36:44 Person puts one beer in other beer, okay, starts flowing, daps up, so have a good one, takes beer out, drinks immediately from both beers, keeps the conversation moving. When you have that type of happening in your team, boy, this is a dangerous Indianapolis, every story I hear coming out of that place, I'm like, and Bill Cowher just told the story about the Pittsburgh City. Taylor's team, how he said it wasn't our best team, but we were definitely the tightest. That was the tightest team we've had.
Starting point is 02:37:12 This Colts team, I think, is very, very, very, very, very tight. And that's a wonderful thing to have. And it's very obvious whenever they play. It's very obvious that they know each other and that they understand what the hell is going on. And it just took Danny Dimes as a guy to kind of bring them all together. Like, he does have a very, like, calming demeanor, and he's also in charge. Like, I love what he does. And they have a confidence in him knowing what he's doing, I think, you know?
Starting point is 02:37:32 Like, he's the first one that, hopefully that there'll be some consistency over the last long time because there's living a lot of turnover, we shall see. Danny Dimes is cooking, though. It's going to be fun to see if he can do a little get-back for about 10 years of Colts Steelers football this weekend. Bears taking on the Bengals 1 p.m. on CBS over under 51.5. Okay, 51 and a half, that's big boy. Offense stuff they're saying.
Starting point is 02:37:54 Bears favored by two and a half heading into the Cincinnati Bengals who have had three players in like the last week asked for a trade. One of them being released and heading back to another team. That team celebrating him coming back as if he was doing hard time somewhere else. Let's talk about Bears bangles. Tone, any other numbers there? And who is the percentage
Starting point is 02:38:15 on for this one again? So it's two and a half across the board. 60% is actually on the bangles for this one at home. He's got a sprained AC joining his throwing shoulder. He was day-to-day. She's super painful. And they just activated Sean Clifford. I'd be a quarterback
Starting point is 02:38:30 who was on the Packers to the practice squad. And then, oh, boy. DeAndre. What? He's good. hope for bagels fans you did not want to see four corners of Shoff Clifford football you don't
Starting point is 02:38:45 dude you don't okay why not you don't know I do know you don't know this last great Penn State Corby it was Zach Taylor a long time he didn't ever fucking win anything Penn State no
Starting point is 02:38:56 listen he's a great 2016 was he there shit I remember he was there 10 years so he might have been in some capacity oh I forgot he did believe he was there for like 10 years yeah which is why He came in Packers' backup quarterback. He was like six years older, Jordan Lovie.
Starting point is 02:39:10 I drafted like two years later. He was like, the hell's going on here, dude? So they got rid of him. You basically need to, you train for Flacco. Your season's going to go down to the pooper if you know with this game. You need to play Flacko. Listen, I know it's not great, but if his arm falls off, it falls off. That's how Joe wanted.
Starting point is 02:39:25 Is Caleb a guy, Harry or not? Harry, the Wizard Tree. Who would you compare him to? I mean, in my world, he's got a little bit of Malfoy in him. You look around that class, it's hard to say he's one of the top guys. No, hold on with Ben Johnson. They're cooking now. Bad news, because when the run game got going for the Chicago Bears,
Starting point is 02:39:53 they really started rolling on the offensive side. DeAndre Swift is out Sunday versus the Bengals due to a groin injury. Groin, not great for a running back, not great for any explosive position. We hope D'Andre Swift gets healthy on the other side of it. You like the Bears of the Bengals, AJ. Bears going in as two and a half point favorites into the jungle. I don't love the Joe Flacco situation.
Starting point is 02:40:13 AC joint. That's one of the few you can shoot up with, like, light a cane. They can try to numb it for the game. Some teams will do that. But I will take the Chicago Bears on this, actually. I will take Chicago Bears as well. Jaguars Raiders. You like Liam Coen or are you like Tom Brady potentially making massive plays before trade deadline?
Starting point is 02:40:30 Give me Liam Cohen in the jacks. Me as well. New Orleans States take it on to Los Angeles. Rams, Rams favored by 14 and a half. I know that'll get Frozone jacked up around here. Frozone's going to have to... You're going to be able to see his excitement through the Frozone costume, potentially, Frozen.
Starting point is 02:40:46 You get 14 if you want. Okay, you can get 14 if you like the Rams. Are you going to do that? Who's Haas? That was Frozone in the back room. We're able to catch it. If Holkster mentioned Sean Clifford, Tyler Shuck's about to get fucking destroyed by this Rams defense.
Starting point is 02:41:03 They're fresh off the buy in. They just, before the buy, beat the shit out of the Jaguars. Tyler Shuck played a lot of football in college. He's been here and done that. He has seen it. You talk about Sean Clifford playing a lot of college ball. Tyler Shuck as well. And they talked about him being drafted.
Starting point is 02:41:17 Well, why'd you draft him that late if he's going to be your starting quarterback? Well, he wasn't going to start the season. Obviously, they had the Rattler in there. And then now Rattler's out, Tyler Shuck coming in. I think Kelly Moe believes this is potentially he got. That was the convo going in. we shall see against this Rams defense that has been hungry and eating. The young boys are very good over there.
Starting point is 02:41:34 I like the Rams minus 14. Yeah, I like the Rams minus 14 as well. Okay, Kansas City Chiefs taking on to Buffalo Beals, 52.5 point over under. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes always perform against each other very well. Two and a half points are what the Chiefs heading into Buffalo are favored it as. How do you feel about it, AJ? Is there any other lines or any other piece of information we should know, Tone? Yeah, that two and a half actually just disappeared.
Starting point is 02:41:57 So you can get the Chiefs minus one and a half or you can get the bills at plus two. Okay, so, AJ, whenever you think about this game, what are your first thoughts? Like I said earlier, this seems like one of those games where the Beals might find a way to win at home and then the Chiefs get them later when it really matters.
Starting point is 02:42:12 But I have a feeling like I think the Chiefs continue to roll. I'll give me the Chiefs minus one and a half. Okay, on that note, there's a little piece of news coming from the back room. Pacheco has not practiced. Here's the injury report for the Kansas City Chiefs. Josh Sim and Isaiah, Pacheco need, did not participate on Wednesday or on Thursday.
Starting point is 02:42:30 All eyes will be on Pacheco here on this Friday. Now, what they're listed as at practice, big storyline. Yeah. Big storyline. Because we all thought what we saw last night with Lamar Jackson was actually coming back on Sunday. And then all of a sudden, that wasn't the case. And we all knew, though. We all knew that what Lamar was going to do.
Starting point is 02:42:47 Yeah. We all knew what he was going to do. Ravens get a big time win with Huntley. Lamar does his thing last night. Now everybody's going to have to properly document if you're a participant or you did not participate or if you're a limited participant. Well, he did every single rep that a scout team quarterback would do. That's full participate guy.
Starting point is 02:43:04 And then the NFL goes, no, full participant from that guy would be starting quarterback full participation. That's actually limited participation because he's doing scouting. Is that in the rule book? I have no idea. It will be now. The NFL is fine to Baltimore Ravens $100,000 for violating the league's injury report policy by incorrectly listing quarterback Lamar Jackson's practice participation status on Friday October. 24th one week ago from this moment right now.
Starting point is 02:43:29 Yeah, they said because he was a scout team quarterback. What the Raven said was he was our scout team quarterback and he did everything. They were like full participant. And then the NFL goes, that ain't how this. He's Lamar Jackson. So if you go full participant, he's obviously full participant. Should just take him out one series. Taking him out for one series.
Starting point is 02:43:48 Say he was limited. Don't take every rep as a scout team quarterback. Well, I think what the NFL is saying is that Baltimore is trying to lie to people to say Lamar was full participant, so they thought Lamar was going to be playing. I think is what the NFL is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know. That is the kind of, we haven't heard that before.
Starting point is 02:44:05 No, that's why I think they find them because, hey, he can't be lying about what participation is. I don't know, though. Like, that's weird because I know people coming back from injury, like, hey, you're not going to play your position, but go take, go take some reps, go run the carded reps. Like, if you're a wideout, you can, maybe you can run some 75% routes and see how you feel.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Yeah, but I don't think if you're a starter, you could be listed as a limited participant is what or as a full participant, you have to be listed as a limited participant because you're on scout team not on starting. I get it. We just learned this. Just learn this through the Lamar Jackson's situation. Thank you. Thank you, Lamar. Thank you, Lamar.
Starting point is 02:44:39 Thank you, Lamar. And you, NPRL getting the bottom of it. Because we need more accurate information when we're making these picks. Yeah. It's not just us. A lot of people trying to make these picks. And then are the... A lot of stuff coming out about what happened in basketball and then what happened over in Turkish soccer. Oh.
Starting point is 02:44:56 Not good. The soccer one's a little under the radar. Well, we certainly saw it because it involved a lot of people and certainly a sport we cover on a regular... There's other basketball people involved, too. It seems like we're just... We're at the beginning. Oh, tip of iceberg.
Starting point is 02:45:10 We'll get to a bomb. I don't love that. No, it sucks, actually. Yeah, it does suck. I don't like that that's potentially... And even people that may be completely innocent and just popped into something, their name might get dragged into it, too.
Starting point is 02:45:24 You always mention that whenever there's other... things talked about you're like the Epstein thing I have said that about like hey there has to be some people I assume there's some naive people that showed up and thought hey I can let me talk ball and physics with this guy and then all of a sudden bam there is and you get get out of there and you're saying that same thing here in this situation I'm saying in the in the card game that could happen yeah because there could be people at card games that are actually getting taken I think the victims I think there's another round that's going to come where I think a victim of one of these games is going to be accused of actually rigging the game and then that person
Starting point is 02:45:55 is going to have to come out and say, no, actually, I'll have $250,000 I lost in this the term thing. I'm actually the victim in this deterrent. I think there's a chance that that's going to start happening. Yeah. Because there's going to be a lot of potential misconstruing of information. But also, maybe it's over.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Maybe that's all they got. Could be. Maybe that's all they got. Hopefully for the good of sport. That's all it is. You like the Chiefs or the Bills? I like the Chiefs here. Give me the Chiefs.
Starting point is 02:46:24 Oh. I couldn't pay. the Chiefs last week, because you did. Chief wrote out running back, Isaiah Petreco and Josh Simmons for Sunday's game at Buffalo. I'll take the Buffalo Bills. What can I get them at? Buffalo Bills plus two.
Starting point is 02:46:38 They always win the regular season one. It does seem to be that way. It's always coolest game, too. Two points. Could be a one point. What's the weather? Like, are we having any situations? They're getting cold and windy and anywhere? I think it's still like 50 and sunny in the Northeast. I don't know about Rochester.
Starting point is 02:46:53 It will be a thing later on, obviously. It will. Yeah, not for the Chiefs, though. The Chiefs are their stadium's ass, too. I mean, they get cold as hell. Remember the Dolphins? That was when it all kind of started around. People's fingers fell off.
Starting point is 02:47:06 Remember Coach McDaniel came to the old studio? Yeah, that was cool, man. That was great. We believed from the moment. We did. He came in. We liked the way his attitude was. Yeah, he loved it.
Starting point is 02:47:15 He kind of felt like an outlaw. You know, just kind of his own man, his own being. It wasn't going to change for anybody. And last night he's chewing people out. It's like, yeah, he's got a little fire in there, too. He's fired up. Who's that? Coach.
Starting point is 02:47:30 Question is, if they move on from him, does he get another head coach an opportunity anytime soon? No. No? I don't think so. Well, I guess Holkster has seen the few. He's going to coordinator. Thank you, Hawkster for that.
Starting point is 02:47:42 You bet. They talked about that at the Football God's meeting. And then, so we're both on a Chiefs and then Seattle Seahawks taking on the Washington commanders Sunday night football. Two and a half point favorites for the Seattle Seahawks. Is there any other lines out there, Tom? If you want the commanders, you can get three. Okay, AJ, Washington commanders at home, getting three points,
Starting point is 02:48:00 or Seattle Seahawks favored by two and a half on the road. Good, Con? I believe Jane Daniels is playing Terry McLaren out. Okay, Terry McLaren, no. Commanders announcing Jane Daniels will start, yes. How's that change anything you're saying? The Seattle Seahawks team, very good at the football. Have had massive wins on the road on a very regular basis under this McDonald coach.
Starting point is 02:48:21 I think he won like his first nine or ten away games, and I still don't know if that street. is going right this moment. I should know better about this point of the season. But Seattle's a real deal. And they're going into Washington is two and a half point favorites. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? So I'm fully on the
Starting point is 02:48:36 Seattle Seahawks bandwagon. J.S.N. Sam Darnold. I love what they're doing. I think their defense flies around. Give me Seattle. I will take the It's hard because I love Dan Quinn and Jaden and what they do, but I just, man, Seattle. They got something to them. the throwbacks. Seattle's wearing theirs.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Like these right, what we see right here? No, no, like the real throwbacks like Chantel. They're letting them bring back the old logo and everything. Hulkster, how accurate it is? Do you know? How accurate or what? Washington's bringing back to old logos? That's what this guy just said. Is that right? It's throwback night? Yeah, yeah, they're lying. How likely
Starting point is 02:49:12 is this telling the truth to us? Because I made a shot that said Steelers Super Bowl. Remember? I do remember that. As it stands, you're looking at about 78% chase. I think it going in, dude. Okay, not just going in, but telling the truth. If I was to shoot this and say, hey, this is for Seattle minus two and a half or whatever, and it goes in, how likely is that to be a factual piece of information from the basketball gods, football gods, or just St. Peter, Jesus Christ, and Big Man as a whole. Unfortunately, it's only about 50% of the time.
Starting point is 02:49:43 It's basically whatever these guys are feeling it out. Now, I will say, if I get 1718 real American beers in these guys, I can kind of push them whichever way I want. So I like you guys You know what I mean? You make this thing Let's just say The world is your oyster Okay, I like that
Starting point is 02:50:00 I sound like the Seahawks Minus 2.5 Oh Oh, good All right I'll take the commanders Okay, dude Plus three
Starting point is 02:50:11 I think that's what that is For me this game Yeah Either team could be really good I think Seattle's more consistently good Mm-hmm Give me the Seahawks
Starting point is 02:50:21 I'll take the Seattle Seahawks minus two and a half, actually. It looks like they are 10-1 on the road under McDonald and nine in a row. Okay, yeah, so give me them. What is that? How? It's got to be a record.
Starting point is 02:50:32 No, I mean, like, I would assume other coaches come to him like, hey, why are you so good on the road? What are you doing? Yeah, locking out, just locking out the outside noise. I guess. They treat every game like a bowl week, brother. Every week is a celebration. How is that hawkster?
Starting point is 02:50:44 How are they winning on the road and other teams are poop on the road? Their coach is a fucking psycho for one. I wouldn't want to see that guy in a square circle. It looks like a mean son of a bitch But like the kind of guy who Everybody still respects him They still love him
Starting point is 02:50:59 But you don't want to cross that guy You know That might be a guy I'd like to get drunk with And get into a bar fight with You know, maybe he'd have my back He's a good coach I mean what else you want me to say It's like, take chemistry
Starting point is 02:51:11 Happy Halloween Hawkser Happy Halloween all you guys as well dude All right, it's good to hell out of here AJ thanks for traveling out Good to see you All right Be a friend, tell a friend something nice and I change your life.
Starting point is 02:51:23 We're in this thing together. Big one tomorrow morning in Utah. Can't wait to get out there. Can't wait to get trick or treat with the baby girl night. Fuck yeah, dude. It's going to be so cool. All right.
Starting point is 02:51:32 Let's enjoy this all, shall we? See you guys on our reaction Monday. Have an incredible weekend of ball. And hopefully they'll get their deal done. Get the deal done. Nobody's really talking about it. A lot of people head over there for Sunday ticket because it's currently on YouTube TV.
Starting point is 02:51:48 Quad Box made for sports fans. BreadZone channel. over there. A lot of football fans over there. I assume YouTube TV knows that. So going into a weekend with a lot of ball, it's like, let's figure that out. We need to figure that out. I don't know who's you know, holding it all up.
Starting point is 02:52:05 I don't know, which side's which. I see him messages from people saying, hey, do you go to this website? Do you something? I don't know if that helps with negotiate your word. It does it. Let's waste of time. A Hulkster, you don't know. Heavenly Hulkster, you don't know. I guess you do now. I do. We got real good fiber up in heaven. I was like, this is weird, dude. Why are we, you know,
Starting point is 02:52:21 beholden to have to have like YouTube TV up here. Don't you got like Jesus TV or something where we don't have commercials, don't that stuff. To me, sounds like we got two greedy corporate fat cats and it's time for them to put their swords down because if we don't have football on Saturday, there's going to be bedlam. Brother. We need it.
Starting point is 02:52:43 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together for sports. Never forget it. We appreciate you all. Team on me. Anything you say? Hey, Jay.
Starting point is 02:52:53 Better one next week. Good one today. Better one next week. Hawks are anything to say? Yes, you dick, kid, not me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.
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