The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1445 - Watt Wednesday, Peter Schrager, Calvin Johnson, Stanford Steve, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 9 of the NFL as AQ gives his biggest takeaway’s, and his top five offensive lines of the week as we go In the Trenches, while Darius Butler goes through the best and worst defensive back play of the week in Everything DB. Also joining the progrum are several great guests including Peter Schrager on the trade deadline, Hall of Fame WR Calvin Johnson to chat about if this Lions team can win a Super Bowl, future Hall of Famer JJ Watt on everything happening around the NFL as we wrap up week 9, and Stanford Steve to chat about the first college football playoff rankings. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome, on this Walt Wednesday, November 5th, 2025. This sports program begins right now. Football! It's absolutely magical, and we're so lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. We are now in a world post-trade deadline for all of our NFL teams. Did your team get better at the trade deadline? Did they take a massive swing and give up a couple first-round picks, maybe, so that they

can put their team in a position to go ahead and win the Super Bowl like the Indianapolis Colts did. And even the Dallas Cowboys who traded away a first rounder? Or are you on the New York Jets and staring down a full rebuild with who? Young players that are good. Well, we just got rid of a couple young players that are good. We need to find new young players that are good so we can kind of strip this thing down and rebuild it in a brand new image because we've been ass. So we apologize for getting rid of some of your favorite players and that little boy over there who learned of Sauce Gardner's release from his father

in the kitchen. He would go on to throw a full on fit temper tantrum, tears yelling screams because Sauce Gardner, his favorite player is no longer a member of the Jets and now he's a member of the Indianapolis Colts. I would like to let that boy know. Come on over to the shoe,

brother. Be smart. It is a great time to be a part of the shoe. We got a team, we got a quarterback, we got a coach, and we got an ownership group, the big three, that aren't scared to step right into the batters box and take a massive hack just a few months into being the owners of the Indianapolis Colts.

They give away a couple first rounders to bring Sauce Gardner back and breaking news as of yesterday. Josh Downs will go Dines to Business just like his brother Caleb and where the number two, he was previously the number one as of two days ago. He's going to two.

He is too slippery, too good, too cool, too sweet. And he's Dons to Business alongside his brother with the number two. Sauce Gardner will be wearing the number one for the Indianapolis quotes. As a person who wore the number one with a lot of pride, okay, I appreciate

denim. That number one, we had a top ten in jersey sales there for a little bit, that number one for the Indianapolis quotes. It's obviously slimming. Not as slimming as the number 11, so that is why I necessarily liked it. On draft day, I was drafted pick 222, you know, seventh round. There's a lot of commotion after you get drafted to an NFL team, especially

if it feels like you're not going to get drafting, you're going to have to go back to school. Maybe all the drunks in your house who have given up hope on you making to the NFL are now realizing oh he's just going to be drunk with us basically that's what we're going to do and then you get drafted it's announced on television and everybody goes crazy and you're talking to somebody that's in Indianapolis they're like we got a couple of things what time do you want to fly out for rookie minicam whatever the earliest flight is I'm good with whatever thank you no problems and then you got people yeah we're fine we did it yeah we did yeah we did uh what number do you

what's that what number do you want what's available one good I'll take that one I can't believe I have a number. I'll take number one for sure. Okay, we'll see you on Friday. Good. Bang, hang up. Beers, celebration, craziness. Pat, why'd you pick the number one?

Literally, because it was just full chaos around me. And then once you get the number one, you're like, this is a pretty sick number. All of a sudden, you feel like a sense of purpose. Okay, I am number one. This two is not a win. I am a number one. You start thinking about it.

All of a sudden it starts looking cool. And then you start doing it while, and you're like, wait, I do seemingly have a connection to this. number. I love this number. This is a cool number. It's number one than any other number, I guess, especially if you're going to do your job well. And then all of a sudden, that number one just gets handed off to somebody else, literally the year after I retire. I'm like, no

connections. Why do I have any connection to that number? I should not feel a connection to that number. Then it gets handed off again. Then he gets handed off again. Then Josh Downs gets in. I see him electrified. I'm like, at least the number one's out there flying around. Like, I like what we're doing right there. It's a nice trip back in time. I love Josh Downs with it. Now a guy

named Sauce is going to be wearing it. He's going to look so filthy. This is his forever, I believe. Every one jersey you see going forward will say, Gardner, I'm going to get one because I would like Sauce to know that we are very thankful that he is a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously, it's the headline of trade deadline. It's the big storyline, and we're trying to get, you know, more information as it unfolds. How'd we get here? You know, there's a guy named Seth Wald. Walder. Yep, yeah. Walter. Seth Walder works at ESP. Now, we looked them up. We don't know if it's his accurate account or not. 77 followers or so. So Seth says it. We know

it's a big deal. He said that the Colts got a D on this trade. And the Jets go, hey, because they also get A.D. Mitchell alongside the two first rounders. So a lot of people potentially saying that that's the case. Hey, Jets fleece the Colts, Jets fleece the Colts. If we're Soss Gardner away from winning a Super Bowl, bingo. Fleece us all you want. Fleece, whatever the hell you want a fleece, because we'll be wearing our fleeces,

and right outside of them will be a fucking Super Bowl ring. And the Colts think that this was a move that can put them in a position to go win. I ask big three, you know? Hey, this is a huge move. Congratulations. Very thankful you did this. It's a message to your entire fan base to the entire NFL. Hey, we understand what window we're in right now. We're going to go for it. And we're not scared to get a deal done whenever some other people would not maybe push it through. We'll do that. And also, they trust Chris. Like, hey, Chris Ballard has always said we like our guys. We like our guys. All his guys right now are playing the football that they're playing. They just bring in a quarterback and a couple other culture centers. And then all of a sudden,

we got a super team, and that's what it feels like here in Indianapolis. So you can say it's a D. You can say we gave up too much. We here in India are like, we're in a fucking Super Bowl because Sauce Gardner's on a team. Reach out to Lou Anirumo, defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis quote. Say, hey, what's the quote? You know, he spoke to press right before the trade happened. So just want to get his thoughts on it.

Love the addition of Sauce. It gives us another Pro Bowl corner. The guy's been a lockdown player his whole career and gives us the chance to match him and ward up on different receivers. Two super smart football players. I can't say enough about Sauce Gardner being on our team. We just elevated our whole defense, his Lou Anirumo, who every player that's ever played for loves him. And you see his defense in what he's been able to do for us this year.

Had a couple injuries. Obviously, we're trying to figure it out. But they've invested a lot of money into this defense. We invest in Lou Anirumo as our defensive coordinator. Obviously think the offense good with Shane Steichen, let's lock up the defense. What did you get from that quote from Lou? Because whenever he said they're both super smart players

and we're able to put them on receivers, what does that mean you think in Lou Aniromo's eyes with what he can do with the defense. Man, that just gives you so much freedom, so many more resource, so many more different places that you can put resource. It's like a left tackle who you can just put on the island

just put by themselves. When all these teams, we look around the league, especially the teams that's going to be there in the end, they have one, two, maybe three, like weapons that can kind of change your math. So when you have corners that can all set down on the other side, chest pieces almost that can match up

with these different receivers, that's huge. And the Colts, they kind of played their most man-to-man coverage last week against the Steelers. to be lost, but I feel like the defense had a pretty good outing. Play a lot of man-to-man, so maybe that's what Lou wants to do a little more of with this defense. You know all the different things that he, as far as disguised, different simulated pressures,

blitzes. When you do all those different things, a lot of these coverages on the edges, they turn the man-to-man for the corners. Quarters, cover three, all these, they turn into man-to-man wants to use rocks released down the field. So getting a weapon like this, if he can play up to who he's been in this league at his peak. Now, I would say it's kind of been a not a fall-off, but a little.

decline in this play I would say probably last season and a half maybe but I think fresh start new plays he can definitely get back to being at top two three quarter league for sure Super Bowl yeah he immediately goes one and seven yeah okay to seven and two hey we're trying to go for a super bowl and you saw what we just gave up for you it's like this team is very thankful for you that type of mentality a mindset coming into a place he's going to be welcomed and he's going to be celebrated like hell and the number one is hopefully going to be gluing guys down Let's talk about some other storylines. Obviously, trade deadline day.

It's basically been announced. Now, Jacoby Preset's a starter for the Arizona Cardinals. Congrats to him. Yeah, wow. Kobe. Jacoby Preset, former starter for the Indianapolis Colts, this man. I was pushing for him to be the MVP that season. He led to Indianapolis Colts whenever we were in a middle of a quarterback carousel in phenomenal ways.

He was a leader. Everybody loved him. He was calling meetings. The team would obviously fight for him. He was doing an offense, Frank Reich, I believe, offense in a way that we hadn't seen. And it was like, everybody's on board. This guy is leading the coach to the promise. Now, obviously, one thing leads to another.

He ends up leaving us. He goes to another job, goes to another job, kind of bounces around. Jacoby Preset, back up quarterback. Why is this guy still in the league? A lot of people say, well, it's because he's a damn good football player. And out there in Arizona, they haven't had a chance to be able to get him on the field. And that offense is executing better with him than anybody else we've seen, including Kyle Murray, who they just paid $200 million. We were talking to Bruce Ariens yesterday, former coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

And he said, Kyle Murray is going to be starting quarterback for that team whenever he's healthy. a lot of money was given to Kyle Murray. There's no way they're just going to let that kind of just sit on the sideline. Then just a couple hours later, yep, we actually will do that. They're moving on with Jacoby. Let's go to their color commentator, the Arizona Cardinals, a man who knows this team a lot better than maybe anybody with the research that he's had to do to call these games for the Arizona Cardinals fans.

And he rides the wave off the game. Oh, yeah. I mean, he rides a wave. He kind of got shades of Myron Cope in there whenever he's talking about stuff, the legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator. AQ Shipley here. Now, AQ. Obviously, you played for the Arizona Cardinals, amongst many other teams. You're a Super Bowl

champion. Now you're doing a color commentary for the team for the local audience. What is the reaction out there? You know, because obviously, B.A.'s reaction was, it will never happen because business-wise. Across the entire league, it's like Tyler Murray's upside. Well, he could be. He could be special, obviously. Very high draft pick. Very,

very high draft pick. In Arizona, how do they view it? Is everybody on board with Jacoby? Like, basically fan-wise? And what does this mean for the future, you think, with Kyler and the Cardinals. They love Jacobi Berset. He's been fantastic. And when you watch what he's done, when you look at him against the Colts, then to the Packers, two of the best teams in football, the offense was so much more fluid, so much more efficient. The ball's getting distributed to more people. He has been fantastic. And then he comes out against the Cowboys and was basically

flawless. The one interesting thing, he's been fantastic on third and long, whereas typically you typically go draws, you go screens, you do all these things. He's hitting third and 23. He's throwing a 43-yard pass and they're getting first downs. It's been fantastic. He's great in the play action. He knows Drew Petzing and he's distributing. He's throwing more touchdown passes to Tray McBride this year than he has thrown to Tray McBride from Kyler his entire career.

Yeah, I heard Tray McBride more touchdowns in like the last three games than Tray McBride and Kyler throughout the entirety of a couple of seasons. Adam Schaefter reported that Kyler Murray's, Kyle and the Cardinals have consulted with multiple doctors on his foot injury and have been told the timetables for recovery have been anywhere from four to eight weeks, okay, one month, two months, with an increased chance of setback until it's properly healed. Murray now has more time to heal while the Cardinals get a chance to kind of experience what Jacoby Persec could be as a starter, D butt.

That's kind of, that's good news to get him completely healthy and also get a chance to see what it's like for Jacobi. That's in a good spot for the Arizona Cardinals, you think? Yes, it's a good spot. It's a good problem to have. Obviously, we always said, now if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have any. So you do want to have a clear direction with whoever that guy will be. Now, with Kyler not being 100%.

I know a lot of people were kind of calling this a soft benching. I did see a quote, I believe, from Jonathan Gann. I don't know if it was confirmed. I didn't see Rap Sheet retweeted. So I kind of took it for, you know, being the truth. And then basically saying even if Kyla was healthy, they would be going forward with Jacoby, which is wild. It's a big decision.

Oh, Burns and Gambo are on it. Okay. They're on it. I mean, once I saw a rap sheet, put it stamp it. And I said, all right, it got to be real. What's that? Burns and Gambo are. his peers.

That's my peers. That's my co-workers. So it's the interview. Good quote there, Dee, but from Burns and Gambo, we certainly appreciate it. I mean, that's huge. So it is a, I mean, it's a real benching at this point. Now, you still want him to get healthy,

but you are going forward with Jacob, and he's proved it. Get your opportunity, take full advantage of it. You can't lose the locker room by saying, hey, we're going with this guy because he's making $40 more million dollars because we're fighting. This is a good football team.

You know, it's a good football team. Last year, remember, they didn't win a lot of games, but it's like, defense is going to be stubborn. Yep. Defense is going to be stubborn, and they were going to fight and fight and fight. It was like a lot of close games, close games, close games. Then this year, close games, close games, close games. It's like they're not as ass as their record has. Look, just like the Colts kind of.

The Colts were a team that was much better team than what they didn't make the playoffs last few years. Colts were a much better team than what their record showed. I think Arizona kind of the same. Now, their record is still ass, though. Yeah, it is. It is. It's still an ass cheats. record right now if you look at that

but a lot of football left to maybe go on to run they have a long way to climb there's really no room for error moving forward but they're doing it differently than they have in the years past because their run game coordinator went to Dallas this off season they relied solely on the run the last couple of years 13 personnel they ran the heck out of the ball

now all of a sudden they're becoming a passing team they're doing a ton of play action they're pushing the ball down the field Jacoby Jacoby might be a sleeper fantasy pick he might be trade for Jacoby sounds like they're going to be throwing the ball a lot Marvin Harrison Jr. said Whenever he was told that he was going to be a focal point in the Dallas Cowboys plan, he was excited about that.

And then I saw somebody tweet, go, yeah, the guy should be a focal point. Yeah, maybe we should be focused. Maybe every week. Maybe we should do that. But nonetheless, Arizona Cardinals make a massive, what's next for Kyler? You know, the natural instinct for, you know, football fans, especially whenever Kyler has as much talent in his pinky as, you know, some people have in their entire bodies.

And we're talking about a super athlete here, this guy, unbelievable. obviously seen the highlights on football fields where he runs for three miles and he's outrunning everybody. We've seen him full speed run and have a perfect throw. We've seen him be able to do things on a football field that are very special athletically, but he's also top 10 draft pick in MLB. Also top 10 draft pick in MLB. How old is he? Can't be that old. Like 27, I think. Okay, so now the question is, if this is from Burns and Gambo, you know, Burns and they know. What's the station? 98.7 Arizona Sports.

Nailed it. Your peers. Hell yeah. But what's next for Kyler? You assume that maybe another team will say, hey, if we get him in our building, he'll be able to be unbelievable. But is there a little bit of Kyle or maybe thinking,

hey, I could see that curve. I could see that curveball. And he's still young enough. He's still young enough to potentially be able to do that. How impossible would that be in that conversation? And how realistic? Probably not that much because other teams will want him. But we're talking about a freak athlete here.

whenever we're chit-chat about Kyler. And I think that gets forgotten about with all the other stuff. Yeah, the video game stuff, pausing the contract stuff, and then this stuff and that stuff. It's like, hey, we're talking about a special elite athlete that has ever been, one of one, top ten in both football and MLB. So I think that kind of gets lost in a conversation of all this.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think he hasn't played baseball in like six years and who knows how much, you know, he's like going to the batting cages because I'm sure he can still do that kind of stuff. like pretty easily but the big thing is is like he hasn't played in six years so it's not like he's going to be able to let's say he's done with football he's not going to go sign with like the Red Sox and then

be on their opening day. I see Russell Wilson training care. I see Russell Russell comes jogging out. Yeah he goes to spring training he gets to it bats he strikes out he looks like an idiot against a guy who has been playing baseball and hasn't just taken six years off. I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right now

I hope he does too. That'd be awesome. That would be awesome That would be awesome. Hey, this guy can't hit a curveball either. And what if Russell Wilson says to you in response to him a tweet says, I'd take you yard 10 times. Just straight. Why don't you pitch against Russell Wilson? I would love to, and I would hope Russell Wilson would take me yard 10 times

because he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. He's an unbelievable athlete, and he's also got drafted to play in the majors. But how sick would that be if you struck his ass out? That'd be pretty sick. And you know what? I was going to say, you know, he's never seen my uncle curveball. So, like, we'll just, we'll say that. But the big thing about Kyler is you make $200 million, like, if you had made $200 million,

do you want to go back down and play single A, double A, and be on buses with guys? Like, that's never going to happen, ever. Is that what he has to do? Yeah, there's just, there's no, there's no way that, I mean, I suppose he could get invited to like a team's spring training and then all of a sudden it's like he's batting 500. He hits a bunch of homers, but there's just no, like over the court. Imagine Kyle walking into spring training, having played in six years? How do you do?

Steps in there. But it would also be a thing like, you know, with T-Boh, like, you know how much every one of those guys is relish in, like, you know, I'm going to strike this motherfucker out. Like, this guy thinks he can just come in. Yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying. It's completely different. Obviously, Tebow, like, these guys knew that was kind of more of a publicity stunt.

Like, yeah, he had played baseball before, but, like, Kyler, you know. I mean, it was. He couldn't catch a five ball. I mean, yeah. He got pop-ups bouncing off his head going into the crash. somebody that played Frontier League Baseball alongside Michael Jordan as well. I would say

what I was doing, a little bit of a publicity start. A little bit. A little bit of a publicity. I had a microphone. You've miced up for the whole day. I was miced up, having conversation. Maybe a little ahead of our time. Yeah. You know, now that you look at that entire thing, that was, Tim Tebow was on these buses driving time to time. Yeah.

I don't think he was doing it as, I think he was trying to make it in MLB. Like, I think he was. No, I agree. He absolutely was. Do you think, personality-wise, how similar do you think Tim Tebow and Kyler Murray are? Well, so what if Kyler, okay? So let's get rid of all the bus taken in the single eight. That's a pretty big part of it though. Well, let's get rid of it. Okay, all right. Let's get rid of it. It's out of the way. Okay, all right. Now we're double A. Every game is in his backyard. Bingo. Okay.

They're traveling to him. Yeah. He's got the money. We're buying the Texas. Exactly. Okay. Let's say it moved AA out of there too. Let's say it goes in AAA, okay, like they did with Mr. Skeens. Okay, he comes in AAA. AAA. Maybe here in Indianapolis. Maybe. We'll be great to have him. Ooh. Not a chance that they would just drop him into AAA because he's a 28 year old who might be a special talent.

There's a chance because I assume with a guy like that, like you said, like he is one of one. Like it could be like riding a bike but I mean just it's a lot. It's obviously very difficult. All these guys talk about how hard it is to hit a baseball and I'm assuming that like if you need to be, if you're going to be an

NFL quarterback like there can't be any like he is all NFL. He hasn't probably thought about baseball. That's not what I've heard, potentially. Really? I've heard that maybe there is back the ball in some of the workouts in the offseason. Okay. So if that's the case, like, again, it might be like right in the butt.

We are not telling you you should quit football, okay? I'm not telling you that. But I'm saying if an opportunity presents itself for you to be one of the first of all time to do something, I wonder if that is something that kind of spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe go and get it. Or another NFL team was saying, hey, yeah, you get an R building. You'll be, imagine him with Kevin, O'Connell. Not that he will because J.J. McCarthy is

certainly going to be a guy. But you start thinking about like an offensive gurus like that. If McDaniel got, you know, with Caleb Williams, would they be able to time something up and be able to come in an efficient offense especially because he has an absolute host? Now, can you break down a defense? Will he spend all that type of stuff is the whole conversation?

But we're talking about a special talent. We need to never forget that. NBA, obviously he's not coaching now, but you would think a lot of coaches probably still think like him, especially offensive-minded coach. Like NBA definitely was not out on him. He's still, hey, Kyler, it can still be a guy There's still a lot of tread on his tire

And he's 20-something years old We talk about the freak athlete that he is He has the armed talent We've seen quarterbacks go to different systems And different coaches And, you know, personality and all that stuff matters as well But, you know, still, I think we'll obviously See Caller Moore on the football field

But, I mean, look, I would love him I don't want to see him dying single, hey, Tyler, you're representing the NFL now Yeah, okay, did it, right? Where do you go? Where was the Barron? Yeah, Birmingham Barrens, that but double a okay

yeah he did I mean you know mj ain't too much of shit now well back then also there's no internet there was no call of duty I don't think there was no really anything else to do you know so

mj had shit to do always did didn't he he was good at all of it how about his like legendary golf stories playing 36 holes before like a game four or whatever game three

scoring 50 yeah I played 30 six holes with this guy. He's playing tonight. It's a playoff game. Drops 32. Winks at me as he's going out. It's unbelievable. He got a different area. Couldn't even imagine him in the modern world, you know, with all the content

that is happening. Imagine him on a golf course day of a playoff game. Imagine if they caught Tyrese's big ass. On the day of a playoff game, he would get absolutely eviscerated. Joining us now, his man who might have a little bit more information on all the moves that we saw yesterday. He's an insider everywhere. Has friends

literally in every single building. Now he's with ESPN, formerly Emmy Award winner at NFL Network, ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Hey, Craig's, how you doing, brother? We're talking about Kyler Murray. Any thoughts on that entire situation over there? I'll tell you this. I was there

Monday for that Monday night football game, and I'm walking around the field before the game, and I'm, you know, talking to everyone, doing my thing, kind of kissing babies, shaking hands, whatever. And everybody in Arizona, you know, was talking about Jacoby Brissette and how good he had been the last five weeks. And what a shame it was

that he wasn't able to get the victory. three walk-off field goals. And the elephant in the room is there's Kyle O'Roury standing there. He's dressed in a Dallas Stars jersey. He looked great. And he's there on the sidelines. And he was 9-0 in his life, going back to high school, college, and the pros in that building. And he was just a complete non-factor in this game because he was out with the injury.

But the juice around Jacoby was so real that I came away from this one thinking, like, I don't know if they're just pumping him up or not. But like, there's maybe a future what Jacoby were said as the guy there. The problem is, Kyler's contract the next three years, it's over like $100 million in dead cap space. So what do you do with that? But in a post-Rustle Wilson era where teams just say, rip the band-aid off, that might be the move. I'll say this. They are still paying Cliff Kingsbury, his full salary.

They are still paying Steve Kime, his full salary. Those guys are from a different era. Those are the guys who brought Kyler in. These new guys, Gannon and Montiasonfort and his crew, they didn't draft Kyler they didn't sign them to that extension and if you go to the owner and say hey we tried it for two years we're going to move on we've got to take a financial hit we'll figure it out they might be more open to it than if they were the guys who actually drafted him that's crazy yeah anytime you got a new GM or new coach new power you have new allegiances and new loyalties and new visions you know how you see a team being is not necessarily the team that you've inherited whenever you're in charge and I experienced it you know we got a new GM and I was literally told during the negotiation process that there is no loyalty between us. And it was like, really? Wow.

Yeah. I was literally told that piece of information. It was like, oh, okay, sounds good. So I'm gone, I guess. And then Jim Ursey says, nope, you're franchise tag, brother. You're not going anywhere for at least a year. We're going to figure this shit out. And I was very thankful for Jim for that.

But there was certainly a time where new GM came in and I was not a good punter, but I'm low main on totem pole. And I'm being told that. Couldn't even imagine whenever it's 20% of your salary cap, 22% of your salary cap is you're trying to build this team up. It takes a lot of courage to make that decision. On that note, the big three here in Indianapolis, sign off on a massive trade to get Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts.

He'll be wearing the number one. Obviously, two ones and A.D. Mitchell go to the Jets. Everybody that knows Soss has said, man, awesome dude, awesome in the locker room, awesome player, you're going to love him. Fans and some other people say the Jets are getting two firsts and A.D. Mitchell for just Soss Gardner. What is your take on how this trade played out? And I don't want to say winners or losers, but just maybe your takeaway from it all. I loved it for both sides.

Indianapolis first, that you like that. Indianapolis first, this is a team that looked at their roster and said, okay, we're not this young squad of just first and second year players. Like DeForest Buckner is a veteran and Quentin Nelson is a veteran and Kenny Moore. And those guys deserve us to go all in at their age. and what they have done for the first half of this season to go all in and make this move. I'll tell you, speaking to sources around the league and with both these teams, Chris Ballard has been calling around the league for a move over the last several weeks.

Sauce Gardner's name was not mentioned, but he had been calling the Jets about players on their team because they were obviously in a fire sale mode. About 48 hours ago, Sauce's name came up, and the Jets were not looking to trade Sauce Gardner. Remember, the same first-year GM who just traded him, Darren Mugie, signed him to a a four-year, $120 million extension in July. And this is his first year, his first massive move on the defensive side of the ball. But when that deal came in, it was almost described as like a godfather deal that they offered that they could not say no.

So I like it from the cult side because Ballard looks at it and says, all right, we've got a veteran team. They're all healthy. We're playing good ball. We've got a crazy tough stretch coming in the next four weeks. We need to stay on the ball. this guy makes us that much better in an area of weakness.

And from the Jets part of it, they just got what essentially the Cowboys got for Michael Parsons for Sauce Gardner, who's got 18 career wins in four years there. So they weren't going anywhere. They haven't won with Sauce and Quinn. And they were like,

crap, we can't say no to that. And to Ballard, like all chips on the table. Here we go. Like, we're all in on this team. Big swing. And if sauce is the one that lifts this defense to, you know, to a place where we're,

we can win in Super Bowl. Who cares about the future draft? B.A. said yesterday whenever we got Gronk, the fourth round came around. We didn't have our pick, and we all just looked at our ring. Oh, there's our fourth round right there. There's our fourth rounder right there. That's pretty nice. Then we move along. First rounder obviously different than a fourth rounder. But if this

works out and we win, nobody will say a damn thing about anything else. I love it. You're right. And it's the same thing that talking to McVeigh and Sneed over the years when the Vaughn Miller deal happened. Now, people always talk about that team and it's FM picks and they got Ramsey and they got O'D and all the stuff. Von Miller was the move at the trade deadline. They called Denver every day for about two weeks. And then finally, the last day, they were just banging on it so hard that

Denver said, fine, take von Miller here. We'll get the exchange. That's what this was. And I came on your show last week. And I said, don't read all the stuff online. Don't listen to the thing. There's going to be a big name. But those names don't even become evident until the day of. I said that on this very show. I said, don't read it. Like, don't get fixated on the names that everyone else is talking about. There's going to be a big name that goes the day of, and that was Sauce Gardner, because I will tell you, sauce had no idea he was being traded. Other teams around the league were texting me being like, did you know he was up for sale? I'm like, he wasn't up for sale, unless you offer two picks in a wide receiver that they can use on their team today.

I like that the coach for that aggressive. They're going to be judged for it going forward. Oh, yeah. And I think our team is in a good spot. Lou Anirumo told us he's happy. He's pumped up. Love the addition. You know, it elevates the entire defense. What he just did for the team. Lou Anirumo is so excited. Think about where Lou was and what was going on. Losing all his players. We're not paying, yeah, yeah, right.

Defense? Stupid, nobody's paying tickets. Nobody's buying shirts. We're selling jerseys on offense. We're not selling jerseys on defense. We're not paying any of your guys on defense. Lou's like, what am I supposed to do here? Figure it out.

He loses. They say, get the hell out of town. Chris Ballard. He's left off in the bag. Immediately. Excuse me. You're available right now? Yeah, we would love to have you.

And guess what we're going to do? We're going to sign three guys this offseason on defensive side. And then right before trade deadline also, we're going to give you another lockdown guy. It's like Lou Anirumo is sitting in a place that I assume he would, any defense coordinator would love to be in. Team clearly investing on the defensive side of the ball while assuming that the offense is already figured out. If this works, that's great. Now, on the flip side of that, this New York Jets team seemingly sending a message. You said fire sale.

Go ahead, D. Buck. Yeah, absolutely. Fire sale, just a full rebuild. letting go of these young phenomenal players that you already pay, like, what's the, how does it, what's the vibe around Aaron Glenn? Do you feel like they'll be patient with Aaron Glenn and actually let him build? You would assume they're going to use this draft capital and go get a quarterback, kind of start that new chapter. But we've seen the Jets do this time and time again since probably Rex Ryan's departure. So what's your thoughts with

Aaron Glenn and the patience level with him? You have to try to separate the history of this team, which has been plagued with, you know, quarterback selections in the top five that have panned out and have had success elsewhere and where they're hoping to go. I will tell you this, a lot of the organization was at the mangled services yesterday, and they purposely held any news of these trades until afterwards. And Darren Mojee was like, I'm well aware of what's going on right now this morning during, I'm not going to try to make a headline here. However, the night before, these deals were pretty much done and put to bed, and they felt comfortable because now it gives them the flexibility to do what they want with a quarterback. We know.

that this isn't going to be the quarterback draft class of 04 or even 2023 or one of these groups where it was coming out like, hey, there are six guys. In fact, every week it seemingly changes who's the guy. So what this does is having five first or second round picks of the next two years, it gives you a little wiggle room. Do you want to trade up to get one in 26? Do you want to stay pat and get one in 26? Do you want to save that for 27? Use those picks to maybe get one. Or do you want to package them and get a veteran quarterback in a monster trade because he's now got five first or second round picks. This didn't exist before

yesterday. They didn't have this flexibility. They have this flexibility now. And before we say, well, the Jets are going to screw it up, let's give them a little grace. Darren Muzis actually have a pretty good draft. If you look at those rookies on that roster right now, they're playing pretty well. And the offensive line, which was what

the focus was, has been really good. So let's see about it. Let's give them a little grace. Let's give them a little patience. But you can't hold regimes of the past and the failures of Zach Wilson. and the failures of all the different quarterbacks that have come through here. You can't put that on Darren Mugie and Aaron Glenn just yet.

Well, they paid Justin Fields 20 million a year. Now, obviously, that is who they thought was going to be their quarterback. Maybe he will be. I mean, who knows how the rest of the season goes. And maybe they will save it for 2027. That's an interesting thing you say. You can't hold the regimes of the past or the current regime, kind of their feet to the fire for the past regimes.

Jets fans are. Oh, yeah. Jets fans are just like, yep, that's what we thought. we'll trade away all our young good players to try to find other good young players and then that'll work because we hit on these guys. These guys are really good. Look, other teams are willing

to give up two first rounders and a wide receiver to get this guy. No doubt. And that's the thing. Those guys, that 2022 draft that Joe Douglas and Sala did got them, you know, obviously Garrett Wilson, who is the offensive rookie of the year and is a solid receiver. Sauce Gardner, who just went for two first round picks,

Jermaine Johnson, who's an outstanding pass rusher. And Breeze Hall, You're looking at those four names, and you're like, gosh, they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink. Even with all those guys playing well, they stink. Quarterback matters. And it's becoming more and more evident every single day.

And whether it's the, it's nature versus nurture and like, look, Sam Darnold's awesome on Seattle. He wasn't great with the Jets. And Zach Wilson might have a fine NFL career, didn't work with the Jets. You have to keep swinging the bat. You have to keep trying. but all those other players, those guys drafted pretty well. It doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback, and that's where they're at right now.

They kicked Aaron Rogers out of the building. He's having an okay year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They outpaid everybody for Justin Field. Sam Darnold was available from what we're understanding. So I'm not saying, like, hey, let's make sure we give this current regime a chance here, but like they're the ones that brought in Justin Fields and it's not working, right? Aaron Glenn's the one that kicked Aaron out of the office immediately upon walking in after he flew four and a half hours over there.

So it's like they've made a couple decisions here early, right? We've seen them already. And now they're halfway through their first year and saying, next year's our first year. That's right. Next year's our first year. Next year's our team. I would like to wish Aaron Glenn, who I am a fan of.

Good luck in this entire venture. But if you're a Jets fan, I'm sorry, man. I am. I'm sorry. Because one of the most entertaining guys in the entire NFL now gone. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, poor kid, kid crying. Yeah.

Get another team. That's the first time he's experienced what life is as a Jets fan. No, he said in it, too. I don't want to be a Jets fan before his dad said. Greenie pointed it out. Don't worry. I'll buy you a New Jersey. That's it.

He's wearing a Quinn and Williams jersey in the clip. It's like you can't even make it up. Exactly. Speaking of Quinn and Williams, Shreggs, I guess maybe that wasn't a shocker to some people. You said that. Yeah, you said it wasn't a shock. Yeah, exactly. But what was kind of the idea around that whole thing?

I saw a lot of people, Dallas fans in particular, kind of pissed off because it was kind of like, okay, we gave up everything we got in the Micah Parsons trade to get Quinn and Williams, and especially given what their record is and all that kind of stuff. How did this come to be? And does this kind of, like, are the Cowboys, do they just flip their defense? Are they all the way back now all of a sudden after getting Quinn and Williams and Logan Wilson? No, they're improved, though, because of these guys. You look at the four names, Kenny Clark, these two, obviously Logan Wilson is a good linebacker.

as much as people have been rolling their eyes because that was not some slam dunk, like, you know, headline grabbing move and we thought we were getting one. Quinnin's legit. And then overshone comes back. So there you have four guys. At least you can say they were going to not be run all over by Bam Knight and Demarcato next time the Cardinals come in on a Monday night, you know, this, this fact of this is, like, they're three, five, and one.

And I don't know if this team is going to the playoffs. And I don't necessarily think they are. They do have a rest of the season to play out. And in those games, they've got a prime time. game against the Raiders on Monday night football. They got a Sunday night game against the Lions. They got a Thanksgiving day game against the Chiefs. They've got a four o'clock window with Brady and Burkart doing the Eagles game.

They've got a Christmas day game on Netflix that we're going to have to do flips over where they play the commanders. So they're going to be on TV a bunch in your face. And I think honestly the other day, Jerry was like, we have to stop the bleeding. He already put it out there saying earlier in the day he had a trade in his back pocket. And like he was hot to make a trade. I think Jerry was hot to make a trade and I will tell you talking to the

people around the league there wasn't an offer as good as this and when it's out of division and out of conference and it's a 28 year old guy that like we like but I don't necessarily think we're winning because of and his career record with the Jets was 31 and 67

I think it's okay we can I appreciate the angle that you're spending here the sauce Gardner won 18 games it's like sauce Gardner 1 18 game that is uh that's a wild that's a wild that's a wild yeah but that's what you just said though like that is i understand the narrative is we haven't on our team now we see we can't win so we have them not on our team we can't win them they were the reason they won any of those games that's the problem and it's like

well that's why you're trying to get young guys that are good is the entirety of like what you're doing in the draft and it's like i guess they already paid these guys so they're not considered young anymore you know i guess because they're already taking up so much of the salary cap but just being able to replace greatness i mean All right. Good luck. Good luck. We are excited about it.

Now, on the flip side, if I was building a team or in my first couple years or first year with the team, and I was offered five first round picks over the next two years to build this team up in my kind of view and vision, I would certainly say yes to that as well? And now, granted, would I say, we don't, 18 wins, this corner. 18 times we got to say, yes. 18 times we got to say, yeah, that was fun. Cornerback wins. This guy.

Yeah, I mean, that's just, but I. I understand the narrative is. There's more of the collective. We've had these great young players. We suck. So let's get some new, great young players. Maybe we won't suck. Yeah, let's at least give it a good.

Gotta get a quarterback. Okay, so Jets fans should be excited. Jets fans are pumped. Like five years from now. Like five, six years from now. You can be super excited. No, the Jets are actually going all in on the future. So the future should be bright.

Now the future's not right now. Okay, we got nine more weeks. Right. And you know what this thing is going to happen. You know what I did see is, as well as they traded you know kind of a bunch of like stalwart's franchise players and then hit them immediately after with boom we're raising ticket prices next year no yeah they did no they did it i wouldn't do that why j e t s jett jett jett oh jett is that what

fireman ed's pissed probably do we have a health in wellness check pissed on fireman ed oh he's got to be so upset dude i think he's pretty pumped to retire for the fourth time what he might be on another golf trip fireman ed ran towards fires not away from him he's allowed to go golf whenever the hell he did and he left early to get there in time what are you talking about his golf trip well it's the boys you want him to show up the boys that's what i'm saying he said he'd let i left the golf trip early that's a big do yeah yes it certainly is the end of it too probably sweet golf trip oh my

every t-box yeah every time yeah every before every shot he we're at the halfway house do it again run it they walk into the halfway house there's like a little snack in there

two people accidentally in there at the same time you want to see it yeah you do oh hey Ed we love you man sorry you've been battling so that's a good bit that is a good bit we got a lot of good stuff going there Okay, let's talk a little bit about yesterday.

AQ Shipley has a question for you. Yeah, obviously we keep talking about all of the trades that did get done. What was the closest deal yesterday that didn't get done? I was surprised AQ that there wasn't a fire sale in New Orleans. Now, I know they gave away Penning, and they also traded Rashid Shahid. But to me, I thought all those veterans, those guys, DeMario Davis, Cam, Jordan, Tassum Hill, Alvin Kamara. all those guys could be up for sale because that team's going nowhere either. And yet they held on to those guys, even after a terrible loss to the Rams.

So those guys will finish the year. And if I was thinking as a Saints fan, maybe like the philosophy the Jets had where it's, hey, we're not going anywhere. We got a bunch of veterans. Let's unload them because there was interest in all those guys. But they didn't make those deals. The other name that was being tossed around a lot was Brees Hall and the Jets didn't trade him. That was more of like a, hey, that's our best offensive player this year.

we're actually in on Brees Hall. And if he goes somewhere else in free agency, we'll get a compensatory pick that might be better than the value of what we were getting offered for him. So it was, I was looking at the teams that were obviously sellers

and some guys weren't sold. And it was just like, well, the juice wasn't worth to squeeze to get rid of them for like a fifth or sixth round draft pick. I like whenever, you know, is this good business for both of us comes to play, you know,

at the very final hour, you know, whenever we're right up against it, are we going to do this or we're not? And it's like, well, I don't think we're getting good. you know, and you kind of back out of those deals, always chirping, always chatting. That's why when these big ones happen, the amount of courage it takes to get that fun. Because, you know, Schaefter was reporting yesterday about how the deal's not done.

The deal's not done. Quentin Williams and Dallas Cowboys, he goes, we're close. It's like that's sometimes the hardest, you know, when you're in goal line, pre-tush-push days, when you're in goal line, those are the hardest things to get. Negotiations and contracts can be that way as well. So to get to that point and then actually make it happen is a huge deal. So if your team's a buyer at all, like we are, so many people probably said, probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not.

So for your team to say, yes, let's go for it. That's why Tread Deadline day is so beautiful. It's like, okay, now we know in the building they're going. Now we know that they view it the same way we do. You know what I mean, Shregs? Yeah, and it's become different. It wasn't this way five, ten years ago. It was more incentive to just keep your guys and just ride it out.

But I kind of loved yesterday because teams were taking swings and other teams were being honest with themselves and looking in the mirror and saying, you know, the Jets case, like, what are we? We're not winning with this. So the other part of that, like Dallas deal, there was other teams that were calling about Quinnon. But when you start saying like the particulars of like, all right, we're going to get the better of your two picks when it's the Dallas pick or the Green Bay pick because of Michael Parsons and you're going to give us the better of your two picks, that's the nitty gritty. That's the stuff that usually holds deals up, but both sides were motivated

enough to get it done. And Jerry bent on that one. And now the, the, better pick between the Packers and the Cowboys will be going to the Jets. Jerry Jones threw the snowball straight up in the sky. Here's Logan Wilson. I told you I got a trade coming in my back pocket. And then Quinn and Williams, right afternoon. Bang. Dallas Cowboys, I always stir some shit up.

I told you literally yesterday. Didn't I just say this? I will stir shit up. And I certainly did. Everybody's talking about Soft Scardner. That's cute. Dallas Cowboys just loaded up on the defense line. Everybody said, I'm a big, dumb, dip shit.

We'll see how it all works out for him. Now, with the things you were talking about, the particulars, first rounder, second rounder, players being moved as well in both cases. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Straitz, piggyback off of AQ a little bit. Once those bigger trades, you know, went down, did trades like Jalem Waddle and Trey Hendrickson and Bradley Chubb? Did those just become too pricey? Like, did they have a certain, you know, pick on a Waddle was allegedly fetching one first round pick? But once Sos goes for two and a player, did those prices get bumped up?

And is that why some things didn't happen? I think so, and I give credit to Champ Kelly, who's the interim GM down in Miami. Chris Greer gets fired, your hand at this plate, and it's basically like, well, I have no incentive to not do anything. I'm an interim GM. I want to make moves. I want to show the owner, and the value just wasn't there for them. Jalen Waddle was too good for what they were being offered. And then in the case of Bradley Chubb, you'd think that would be a very movable piece.

They probably just didn't get what they thought was worth a player who could still be a good pass-ratcher for the rest of the season. So Jalen Phillips goes, third round pick. That sounds about right, especially a guy in the final year of his contract. And then the other two is like, no, we're not going to trade them 20 cents on the dollar just to do it, which I appreciate. Yeah, I do too. But some of these trades that end up happening for really good players are mind-blowing. Randy Moss won for what? Fourth, I believe.

Fourth, I believe. A fourth rounder. And Napoleon was a dog. He was to talk about him. You fear Napoleon. This guy, a lot of spite. Favorite in New England. Really?

Oh, yeah. everyone honestly was the first napoleon they accepted in new england yeah it was like a full complex it was a full complex they put together for him all right we appreciate the hell out of you shrags you're the man oh i love it you guys are the best thank you're the best ladies and gentlemen peter shrieger yeah i didn't think they got enough for waddle man well it's a good player yeah put the tape on also got a sick celebration here to sell shirts that's a whole another business that we don't even talk about that got to be at least worth a second third don't you think maybe maybe third how about whenever sauce goes for two ones all of a sudden everybody

at the trade deadline's like, oh, I didn't know we're giving up that shit. I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know we're giving up ones at the trade deadline. It did kind of come out of nowhere. We were shot. Oh, shit, that's off. Wait, Cam Little. Two first rounders. These guys were yelling in the back. They're screaming.

Yeah, the Cam Little interview is running. Okay, shout it to Cam Little. His interview ran three times yesterday. First time ever that anybody's conversation has run three times in the same show. Now, in entirety, one time. But, you know, it got cut off both times. We were trying to chit-chat with a guy who just broke

the longest field goal and NFL history record this weekend at 68 yards that thing's running all of a sudden in the back all you hear is yo

you know people are going to the bathroom people are doing the whole thing got it let's go and then it pops up on screen sauce gardeners come to the Indianapolis

Colts oh my God it's real AI got to be AI nope we're back it's real okay we're celebrating holy hell the Colts are all in

Colts race is awesome the big three of course we knew that they know we didn't do it goes for two first round two, two, two, two first rounds.

Hold the phone. I didn't know we give up two first rounds at trade deadline. And then B.A's like, who cares, bet? Who cares? You got sauce gardener. That's the real thought. Is your team good for right now? That's what trade deadline is for right now, this season.

Now, when people want to judge it, they're talking about the future. What's the future look like? What's the future look like? The New York Jets get an A for that because what the future is going to look like with who they're going to draft. It's like, well, all the Colts care about right now with it is this year. That is what that pick is for. Now, granted, we got sauce for multiple.

years. You just signed that deal, which is great. But this trade deadline move, especially if you're a buyer, it's like this piece sends us this year to where we want to go. You never know when your year is going to be your year. This Colts team thought they've been good for the last couple of years. They're in the middle of it, like, wait a minute, we've been building for this moment. Why would we not go for it? They go for it and we make the biggest play of trade deadline. It's a beautiful thing. Absolutely. This is definitely for this year, but also for this window going forward. I guess it's Daniel Jones window because this lets you know like, hey, we believe in the quarterback. We're probably going to lock him up long term. He's going to be driving the ship.

You got sauce now for multiple years. You got Ward on the other side of him for multiple years. You got Cam Bynum for multiple years. Kenny Moore, he's one of the highest paid nickelbacks in the league. So you have one of the best secondaries definitely on paper. And that should help those guys up front, you know, be able to get home too. We don't necessarily have that elite closer up front. But when you have multiple coverage guys in the back end, that definitely helps the guys up front. I think what we're seeing from the big three is if we win, that's how the business grows. You know, some people that get maybe handed a team or kind of next generation of team are worried about literally just dollars, okay? Because this is the family business, just worried about dollars in this entire thing.

But we've never really understood that because like any business, if you make a good business, that will make it more profitable. Look at the New England Patriots before Bill Belichick out there. Then you win for 20 years. Look at the valuation of the New England Patriots after you win. Like when you win, the business goes up. So this is just like with the Pittsburgh Pirates ownership where we go like, hey, if you were to actually put your money into the team, what might happen. Think about this.

Your bottom line might be more because you're better and you're getting bigger deals. And you're on more TV, more everything can happen. I appreciate that the big three, seemingly with this move and with everything else that has happened this season with the moves and signs. They're like, yeah, we would like to win. I think Carly Arsay, in her opening press conference, said, we want to be the greatest. We don't want, wins will happen if we're the greatest.

However, we can make this team the greatest is what we want to do. And it's like, they're living up to that right now. And that's a sick precedent. I don't think they're going to be crazy, like every single, they're not going to be like Carmine over there. Like, hey, we're known for doing this stuff. But I think they're very much like, yeah, we want to have good. We want to win.

When we win, we live through the Peyton Manning era with the Indianapolis Colts. When we win, life is, you know. And they will be judged. Super Bowl, everything. You're everywhere. And they will be judged on this particular move. It's a big swing. Whenever you're sending that PJ out for somebody that you signed,

whether it be a free agent, somebody you draft, whenever you're sending that bird out, that's going to be one of the signings, one of the moves that you will be judged for going forward. So I love them taking this swing while the offense is on kind of their historical run right now. Obviously, you hit a rope bump against the Steelers last week. But with Daniel Jones, with Jonathan Taylor, the O-Line, and then these receivers around Daniel Jones,

I feel like they're having career years too, and it's almost like just scratching the surface or when they're going on that side of the ball. So for them to make the investment defensively, I mean, that's all you can ask for is a fan. Going to have to pay Danny Dimes and Jonathan Taylor. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's no stranger to football greatness.

He is a pro football hall of famer. His name is mentioned any time you talk about the greatest wide receivers in the history of the NFL, A man who was unguarable, just any time he was on a football field, including whenever he was at Georgia Tech. The only way that you'd be able to stop him is if they stopped throwing him the ball, which they did in the Gator Bowl's second half against West Virginia, and we win that game.

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people come together to make magic happen, shout to you, Calvin. Let's talk about magic. This Detroit Lions team, brother. Hey, listen, I know that you could probably still play. And maybe you get that truck all suited and booting. You start feeling like you're 28 again. But this feels like a team you would want to play for, this Detroit Lions team. What is your take on this particular squad?

Yeah, man, no shade to any of my coaches I played for. Rob Marinelli, Jim Swartz, Jim Codwell. But Dan, man, that player coach, man, it's nothing like having a player coach. I was fortunate to have a player coach in Sean Jefferson throughout half of my career in Detroit. And I understand, you know, the buy-in that you get. And that's what those guys got up there. They got buy-in because half of that staff and not most of that staff or former player coaches,

but just the energy and the environment to compete and to thrive and become the best version of yourself, not just player, but yourself. That's what Dan is creating there, man. It's a great culture. Going to win a Super Bowl? What do you think?

Are they going to win a Super Bowl? What do you say? You think they can? Because let me tell you, Foxy over here, right? Yeah, yeah. Foxy die hard. Foxy loves you. Foxy has been praying to the football gods

for another Calvin Johnson since you were debuted as the lion and forever as a lion, Foxy. 1,000%, Calvin, thank you for everything you did in Detroit, brother. Yeah, but are we at the point this year?

You know, are we at the point this year where you can go on a run or do you think you're setting up for like next year? For instance, both new coordinators. Now, I don't know if Kelvin Shepard's going to be there next year. He's just defense coordinator.

His name is starting to get floated in a couple different jobs because of how awesome he is. You talk about former player. We are teammates with him. He's beloved. Might be LSU's head coach. Exactly.

That is what we're saying. Like back home. Yeah. It might be. Yeah, but I'm saying, though, like with the brand new coordinators, with everything, do you think this team has the same juice as last year where we thought they were going to go

win the Super Bowl? You think same thing this year if we just missed the injury bug as much as we had last year? I mean, we know we have the juice. There's like, you know, last game, you know, a little bit of struggle, but we saw there's a little stretch there over the last month where they got hot on offense and they're really moving the ball up and down the field, both running the ball and passing the ball.

If we cannot continue to do that, you know, if we get stuck in one facet, then, yeah, We're not going to, you know, our days are number, put it like that. Yeah, DeBott has a question for you. Yeah, Calvin, I know you're rooting for your lines, but what's it like still watching your old quarterback, Matt Stafford, still spending it, still playing at a high level, MVP level? What have you seen from him, I guess, differently,

like his evolution from the time that you played with him? Man, what up, bro? Good to see you. Man, it just looks so easy. It looks so easy for him right now. He looks, you know, stressless. You know, that's inside of Matthew that, you know, I got to see Latter of part of my career.

And he's just taking it to a whole other level. He's gaining, you know, making different throws, not all fast balls. And he just seeing the field really good. I wish he could, wish he would have. He's still not running the ball like I want him to as a quarterback. But that's never been that game either. Yeah, but he used to take some massive hits.

Oh, yeah. I mean, the shots you take, I mean, it was, he's tough dude, still doing it. Everybody remembers his Mike. up where it feels like his shoulders out of place. And he didn't score. I got to go to another plate. Ah, ah, ah.

And then somebody comes over to him. You know, and he still. The Cleveland game, I do it. Yeah, exactly. It is like, what a dog, especially for how long he's been able to do it. All right. Last question here for you.

We talk topical NFL stuff. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Calvin. Sauce Gardner got traded yesterday from the Jets of the Colts. What type of corner for you gave you the most trouble? And what type of corner is Sauce Gardner and how much better do you think the Colts' defense will be because of him?

Definitely an improvement to that coach defense for me the corners that gave me the most

problem were the ones that didn't necessarily press I liked it when you're aggressive and pressed

but the ones that more so played that catch technique where they were like you know

three yards off they didn't really go at you let you more so come into them and then

they kind of latch on and then with that you know if you're a long tall long arm

corner those are the ones that gave me the most trouble because I mean not in today's game

because today's game you can't touch the receiver But back in the day, or like 10 years ago when I was playing, yeah, they would latch on that first 5, 10 yards, and it never get called. You know, yeah, they would always call it really properly at the first 5 yards and ended there.

And I do love hearing older players, especially ones that are like the greatest of all time going, would have been nice, maybe. So I'm taller than everybody. I'm faster than everybody. I can jump higher than everybody. And they're not a lot to slow me down at all. That is the rules precisely. Sweet.

Boom. We are doing this one. You did that back in the day as well, though. So you need to know that we all understand your greatness. And any time a good wide receiver comes out, they always pop the clip out and go, I don't know if they're ever going to get the Calvin Johnson punt bracket coverage, though. And that's like kind of a staple now.

You change the game, brother. We appreciate the hell out of you. Appreciate you, bro. You're changing the game right now, man. I love the show. Y'all keep it up. All right. We need you, Sue.

We need to come back whenever we have more time. We love chatting with you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Calvin Johnson. Yeah, Calvin. Real truck, Rochester Hills, Michigan. That guy from W. Wells, I believe in Africa. Yeah.

I believe he was building to, he has a greenery company. Primitously, Hall of Fame, football career. The Nala Truck Partnership. It's like this guy, one of the most well-rounded business people of all time. I mean, unbelievable. And then what he did on the field was... Great family as well. Come from a great family.

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have. Let's make sure we figure that out. Mm-hmm. Please. Please. We need it. Bad. And I like clarify. What I said yesterday is obviously made its rounds

where me saying, hey, stop saying. Go to the website. Yeah. I need you stop doing that to me. The way I said it made it sound like I was taking shots at the people that were saying it or tweeting it. Sure, because they agreed to do it. This is mostly from whoever said, hey, you know what? All our liked people, we need to throw them right in the middle of this fire, too.

You know, have them go tell people to go, that is mostly my. So if you like to correct it and run it back, that is who I am. It's not necessarily like, hey, Herb Street, I'm saying, hey, because Herb Street was probably informed by somebody. Like, hey, would you like to, that person needs to not do that. Okay, Herbie's got enough on his plate already. We don't need to be putting, because it's, at the end of the day, you're going to get 20 people that go to that link, okay? We know this because of affiliate business.

You know, the beginning of the internet business days is links, okay, send people to your links so companies know how many people are using your things. So do you have an active audience? So then we've done the whole send a website thing. We've done the whole, what happens is people very lazy, okay? Even on an app, people are lazy. They don't even want to do it. And as soon as they see doing that, their immediate reaction is,

no, you figure it out, smart guy. And also, shill, corporate, you want me to fix the problem. Okay, yeah, I'm the one. So I just think it's all bad, I think, for the people that I have a big fan of. But on that note, none of us are a fan of the situation everybody's trying to get this thing over with. We all do, I think, except for potentially the people that are currently actually sitting at a table that aren't reading the petitions that are coming from a website.

No. Those people are not doing that. That is not how that's going. So we need them to put their swords done. For the good of ball. Yeah, right now. Right now. Yeah.

Kind of needed it last Friday, but need it right now. Ink to paper. Yeah. We need it. Actually, you know what? Get the deal done. Celebrate for a night. Okay, don't tell us until tomorrow.

Sure. But just we need it. Saturday. We need this by Saturday morning. Okay. Need this by Saturday morning. Maybe pull the Jerry Jones. Like Friday night.

You're going to be happy tomorrow morning. Oh, wake. Hey, it's Christmas Eve, isn't it? Yeah. A little smile on your face going. Why don't you leave some cookies out for Santa Claus Jerry Jones? Yeah, maybe there is a little bit of that. That's what we're going to live in. We're going to live in that world where that's going to happen. Congrats to the people that are negotiating this deal that are definitely reading the website

telling them that they need to get a deal done to kind of drive them to get the negotiation to the right place. Congrats to them getting that deal done for all of us. Thank you. Thank you. You guys are heroes. Thank you. A lot of negative things said about all of you guys.

but you guys are now heroes for getting it back in the middle of football season. Need it. 12-year NFL veteran, Super Bowl champion. That's A.Q. Shipley. We appreciate the hell of you. And joining us live from Manatic in Ohio is a man who has a statement to make about YouTube TV and ESPN's current disagreement. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. AJ, the website.

Get to the website, AJ. Yeah, I do appreciate you. Let me start off with that. I actually went to the website four or five times and signed up and, you know, I guess, typed up my complaints. I don't know why you went out of frame. You must be going to checking the website as well to see the massive amount of traffic is got. No, computers right here.

I was letting you kind of have the floor. What I was saying is the floor is yours, basically, is what I was saying there for you to do that. But on that note, thank you for going on that website because it does mean that you would like to be able to watch ball again. I'm the same way. I didn't go to a website because I thought to myself, is this a waste of time?

Maybe. Maybe it is. What is at the website? Has anyone truly gone there and checked out what you do? Yeah, so there's a little, there's a couple different options there. You want to send a tweet? You want to send a tweet? We got you right here. You want to do this.

You want to send an email. You can do this right here. You want to watch. You can do this right here. It's got options. It's more options. It's more. You actually get a link to get to more links.

And it's like, people love that, especially in 2025. Now, maybe in, I don't know when the internet started. You know, people loved being able to just kind of, oh, yeah, this is fun. When the Al Gore started it? I do, I do believe he is credited with birthing the internet. And I thought so. What a wild turn the internet has taken now that it kind of... Al Gore's?

I believe Al Gore's... I was a Beyonce. I thought he cloned. Or Beyonce. One of the two, yeah. Beyonce started the internet? Maybe together. Open those Beyonce's internet.

Hmm. Well, I think that is a section of the internet. Like, Beyonce certainly has a portion of the internet. Yeah, the Vehive. Yes, exactly. It is. Yeah, and you buzz in and you buzz out. There's also NBA Twitter, which we know.

Yep. Now, it did have a rebrand, NBA Twitter. Always, always been the best part of Twitter, I would say. A black Twitter still, still there. Whoa. I know what you're saying. Not me? No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

Boy, you get dropped into there, though, as a what? It is a great place to be or worse place to be of all time. Just one, depending upon how it's going. You just never want to be the main character. Never. Ever. Now, you're just going to get it. But if you get into the, what, what?

portion of Twitter are you referring to now? It's black Twitter. Okay, so if you happen to get into that particular portion of Twitter, boy, and you are a what? It is, enjoy the ride. And go ahead and just keep updating that thing, because you're about to hear shit that you have never heard before. AJ, it is great to have you back. We missed you. Sauce Gardner is now a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Quentin Williams is now a member of the Dallas Cowboys. There was actually some massive moves made yesterday. What is your takeaway from the trade deadline as you kind of gather it all in? definitely more superstars moving around than I thought

and I said it felt like it happened obviously late I mean sauce going to India I instantly thought of you and just thought how I've seen the clip of everything during the pre-record I've seen it all it's it's pretty awesome and it's bizarre that it actually happened honestly like the timing of it everything about it is wild and sauce is awesome like why not if you're the coach I think it's I didn't shreg say he feels like it's a win-win

like in that whole situation even though people can say whatever whoever won the trade right now Shraggs has to say that because he has friends on both sides Remember, these insiders have to play fence all the time. Okay, it has to be some sort of positive, except for with the Lions. I don't know if Shrague has any ties to the Lions. Because remember before the season, he was like, upside, friend of mine. Okay, even though the team looks bad and he's going to inevitably not play back.

Down, I don't think Detroit Lions. That was one of his misses. He was taking massive takes, and that was, he literally laid out. This is a massive take, a massive say. But I think Detroit Lions are going to have it down here. And I'm like, wow, Shreggs never really does. Shraggs is always at least something positive from everywhere. That's life of an insight.

That was my takeaway. Shreggs knows no one at the line. So, hey, this is a team I can bury and not make anyone mad. See, that's journalism. We're trying to get to the bottom of these takes, AJ. We've missed you, buddy. I don't know if you've know this, but last night, huge night in the college football world,

the actual rankings in the actual bracket that is coming from the actual group of people that are going to be deciding who the college football playoff inevitably is at the end of the year, whenever they started 12 and count down to one, rolled out their first official rankings of the year. We saw them put their hats on the hat tree, and now we see what they came up with in that room. Let's go to Hammer.

Todd, Todd, AP, Tone. What did the college football playoff committee tell us with their first projected 12-team bracket? Yeah, I don't think there was a ton of surprises here. There was two things that I took away from looking at this, and the first one being Oregon at 9, when I projected it, I thought they would be higher, but the committee disagreed with me. They are the lowest ranked one-loss team from the Big Ten or SEC.

They are behind Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas Tech, who's in the Big 12 as far as one-loss team goes. Teams go, so they are, like, Oregon needs to be careful. Oregon still has Iowa this weekend at Kinnick, which is huge, USC and Washington. Like all those teams are ranked. All those teams are good. Like if Oregon messes around and loses any of those games, they're definitely going to drop them behind Texas or Oklahoma teams like that. So like Oregon, I wouldn't be happy if I were them when this came out

because one more loss and they could definitely be out of the playoff as a two-loss team, which would suck for them. And then the other thing I was looking at, Notre Dame's at 10 right now as a two-loss team. But behind them, the two teams right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, Texas has Georgia and A&M left. If they beat Georgia and A&M, guess what? Texas is going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So Notre Dame drops to 11.

Oklahoma has Bama and Mizzou left. And that Bama is at Bama. Like if Oklahoma were somehow beat Bama on the road, I think they jumped Notre Dame too. So while Notre Dame's in there right now, I don't know if they're safe. Obviously, if they lose, they're out. But Oregon, as well as a one-loss, Oregon.

If you drop to two losses, I think you might go behind Texas and Oklahoma in that situation too. two teams is what I kind of took away from last night's rankings. Okay, let's check out what Tones predicted CFP committee bracket look like versus what the CFP committee bracket was. What did you get wrong? You got Oregon ranked differently but basically have all the same teams. You basically are seeing the field how the CFP committee is seeing the field.

Do you feel that way? Yeah, as you said earlier, I saw all those old whites walk in there and put their helmets up on the hat rack and, you know, they went in there to do their business. And, yeah, I had Oregon higher. I thought they would be higher. Maybe five was a little too high, but I didn't think they would be behind, you know, Texas Tech. Like, I thought for sure they'd be ahead of Texas Tech

just because normally there's no respect for the Big 12. Not saying there shouldn't be. I'm just saying in the committee's eyes. But, yeah, all the teams were correct and just kind of Oregon was really the only one that was out of place. Okay, well, out of baby tone. Hell yeah. That's why you're best in the game.

Thank you. I see you're growing back your beard. I thought maybe you were just sticking with mustache for a while or is. Maybe this is the look. No, just the mustache was a horrendous look. That was a miscalculation of epic proportions on my part. But no, I don't mind the mustache with like the, it's starting to come in. This is a week's worth of growth.

Maybe like another week with the mustache. We're starting to find it a bit here. Yeah. Holiday season, Tom, holiday season. Congratulations to you. Thank you. Steelers get a huge win over the Colts, Tone, batting, 1,000 in college football. And he's starting to find it with his face.

Joining us now as a guy who's starting to find it in the booth, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Listen, I was listening for a long time. This guy talked about a game in which his brother dominated, and my team was the best team in the league and was losing pretty bad. And I'd say he did a great job doing it. Ladies and gentlemen, future at First Ballot Hall of Famer, a member of the Bull Ring of Honor.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watt. Jage, owner of Burnley as well and Español. The soccer team's absolutely crushing it. come the Texans aren't calling it the bull ring of honor how come i saw there's an announcement there's another member going in a fourth member going in i believe this weekend it just said ring of honor i thought for sure this must have been a mandela effect i thought it was called the bull ring of honor it's not no it's just a ring of honor come on that's a miss yeah so i mean you've you have certainly taken that bull by the horns and and let it around the track so it's it's got a

second nickname for sure no i thought that was the official title. Yeah, I thought that's what it was. And then I saw the logo and the photo, and it's like, oh, it's not that. We did welcome Ms. Janice McNair, sweet, sweet soul, one of the best women ever. So she is now up there, and rightfully so, she's the best. So there's four of you now in the Bullring of Honor. Are you guys going to play Yucer?

Is the crew going to get together and maybe play little cards against each other? I don't know. I don't know. I'm there this weekend. I'm very excited. I got a Houston game this weekend. So I'm really, really looking forward to that. and really, really hoping we can get some offensive production going,

that would be a plus. Yeah, that would be a plus for an offense to maybe not turn the ball over and do what they've been doing all season, you know, especially in a game where maybe it's a homecoming for one particular squad. And let's go back to the game that you called this past weekend as opposed to the one that you're going to talk about this upcoming weekend, which we'll certainly dive into. CJ Stroud, that's a big hit.

And obviously did not look good at all, but we'll dive into that later. Let's talk about Colt Steelers. You're obviously calling it your brother has. huge play after huge play. The defense, very dominant. Obviously, special teams turnover as well. This Colts offense didn't look the same as it always has looked. Jonathan Taylor was never really able to get going.

It's because the Steelers defense was so damn stingy. Your takeaway from the game is this is the Steelers team that everybody kind of thought they could be coming into the season and has the defense kind of flipped the switch on or is it just against the Colts when the 2005 team's in the building and that's the only time they're going to be good all season. What are your thoughts as you watch the game from inside? I got a lot of thoughts.

First of all, I'm going to go ahead and say that my prediction from last week of they just couldn't win in those ugly throwback uniforms. Maybe that was true. They put their regulars back on and they play good again. The 2005 team being in attendance, certainly you don't want to embarrass yourselves in front of that group. You got Dick LeBoe and all just the legends there. So the defense wanted to come out and play good, I'm sure. But it was just all week long they had talked about simple. simplifying their defense, you know, in our meetings and everything, they said they wanted to simplify it and just play fast.

And I do think that the Colts may have abandoned the run a little bit early, partially because the Steelers were playing the run very well. But the Colts offense we've seen all year is efficient. It is on schedule. They stay ahead of the sticks. They get tons of yardage on first down, creating short seconds, short third downs. And they just weren't really in that. The first drive of the game, they go out there to score a touchdown. But then the game got a little weird.

They had that muff punt. They had obviously the interceptions, the force fumbled by T.J. That was really kind of in the stadium, the turning point. You could feel the momentum change. But, I mean, six takeaways in the game is a ton. That Steelers defense really did have a good day. And people are always looking for a reason to doubt the Colts. You know this.

You're a part of it. We were talking to Zaire Franklin about it. And he was like, yeah, they always moved the goalpost. It was, you know, we hadn't beaten anybody. Then it was we hadn't beaten anybody outside, then it wasn't on grass. And so this is kind of one of those first ones where was it because it was outside on grass. Who knows? But looking for them to get back on track in Berlin.

It wasn't because of the grass. Okay, the boys are just fine going into a mutter if they have to. Okay? They just had an off game. And the ball was going obviously a different direction than it had all season. We like that that happened as a fan. Yeah, let's get it out of the way. Okay, let's get it out of the way.

We're still seven and two, still leading everything. but six turnovers you assume and you only lose by seven. Hey, almost had it at the end. Appreciate you shouting out the old onside kick. I appreciate the love. Last onside kick. Didn't realize that it's been that long since an onside kick. I mean, that speaks to how we got to fix this onside kick thing, man.

There's got to be at least some sort of chance here. So since he just got one against the bears, but I think that was even, that was because it was a shorter kick and the bears ended up hitting it with the foot. But I think there's some protections on the guy. But yeah, you guys showing this one was really cool. Really sweet. because I completely forget about that one, to be honest.

Yeah, just bent it over a guy's back. Don't worry about it. Ben it like Beckham. I don't even, to be honest, when you showed it, I had not thought of that particular kick ever, really, since retirement. Because there's so many more, you know, the one against Houston. I thought for sure it was going to be ours. I thought for sure it was ours.

Yeah, we had a good time. Yeah, okay, so we need to stop showing to see. I mean, that's a nasty ball. You can't tell me that you thought that was getting recovered. You cannot tell me that you thought that was getting recovered. No, but it did. dance exactly how I wanted it to. I mean, it did exactly what I wanted it to do. I mean, I bent that son of a bit. I mean, you gave your, you gave your, you know, your cover team

and you did it. And that thing was dancing. That thing's dancing like a top. That guy scared to death. This thing's coming on me sideways. You know, I don't know what to do. And he tries to fall because he thinks it's going to take a quick thing because it's oblong. Yeah, right, brother. Benet like Beckham, we just got nighting, I think, yesterday. Around it. Boom. Let me hit a go row. Hey, brother, run a go row. I'm going to send this thing to you on the other side. Yeah, I need to like that one more completely out of memory had no idea that that even happened until you guys showed it so you kind of breaking

news to me about that I'm like man I fucking forgot about it there's a very nerve-wracking position to be in as that hands guy who's responsible if I could try to read the bounce that is very very nerve-recky see a lot of mine were surprised though in the onside kick now has kind of gone away from that completely

it's just kind of to your point jage it's kind of just become over yeah this one was cool this one was cool jage We don't need to go to the well this many times. Listen, I didn't know Foxy was going to be doing this. I didn't know we had all of them back there, but I do appreciate the fact that I'm going down,

Glory Day. We guys even on the field. That's what people are wondering, you know. And the reason why it was wide open is because we had hit a surprise onside game to the right earlier in the year. And then we hit one to the left earlier in the year. So Houston, Texas is like, well, if we go on the right and the left, this guy can't do shit.

They completely forgot about the middle of the field. Now, I'm not saying that's, bad idea because uh no kicker really um thinks that they're safe when they do that kick so they you know as i'm kicking that i think oh i'm gonna get my spine fractured here you know because i'm gonna go down on this and this is going to become uh boom boom so as i'm doing that i'm literally you see me like if you saw my face it's like a ready for full oh no i'm i might not be able to walk out of here i mean who knows nobody touches me i mean they weren't even close nobody i mean What a perfect situation.

It was the greatest. I got up. I'm like, oh, no contact. This is the greatest. On that note, thank you for the love. Tell the CBS people that I very much appreciate them

showing me do something good as opposed to something bad, which is normally the case in this entire situation. I would like to let you guys know. You called a good game too. I thought you called a very, very good game. All right, let's talk about

some other shit going on around the league. Go ahead, AJ. Jay, G, G, I know it's most important on top of your list what you want to talk about. Is it true that you may clone yourself? and possibly your brothers with this whole situation

with Tom Brady cloning his dog, I believe. Come on. It's a great question, AJ. Come on. It took me a second to see where we were going with that.

Yeah, I thought we were going to do football soon, but hey, Tom Brady's greatest football player of all times. It might be back. Certainly topical. There's a lot of dog talk in the analyst world.

I'm just going to keep my dogs on my Instagram story, and that's going to be about the end of it. They're not. Hold on. No. Did we know that I could clone Valerie, my dog, who's a Pitbull-Bull-Sharpé dog, who I absolutely love. Now, I don't know if they're just going to be able to pick up her mentality and mindset from being a street dog and sheltered dog and everything like that.

I don't know if you're going to be able to clone that. But if Valerie can just be two years old again, just sleeping at the floor of the bed, it's like, hold on I got same dog. Oh, she's got a different attitude now. It's like, okay. Yeah, I mean, Valerie's going through a different stage. And then I just got Valerie for the next 50 years. Is that what's happening? That's the Tom Brady told me. Is Chuck the big one? Is Chuck the hefty fella? They won't let you clone him.

You could clone him. I mean, can we clone him skinner? I mean, give him a break, okay? The Ottoman. Can we clone the Ottoman and just shrink it? Okay. The Ottoman is Chuck. And he has an incredible stature, I will tell you.

Yeah. He stands there strong and fat, but he's very tough to move and he's stubborn. Actually, if I could clone Chuck and get a better mindset, which is possible, I guess. Maybe I do that. Another shot from the beginning. Yeah, so, and maybe we did get him on Doggy Zempick from day one because we know what's in his blood.

Yeah, exactly. I know he can become super fatso. The cloning of the- calling him, it's starting back at the start, right? It's like, it's just like a baby. Chuck's all over again. Yeah, here's Chuck. I had the same question.

Oh, my God, man. That sounds fair. And I'm the only one that didn't have a leash on. because he's too fat for the leash to the games. So he ran though, look at him, his little legs. Damn, we're one. If it was skiing, he would have won. Yeah.

That is not. Chuck's awesome. We're not thinking about calling Chuck, anyway. Chuck's got a long life ahead. Valerie, though, certainly on her final long life days here. And, uh, AJ, I feel like you, I feel like you've looked into this before.

I feel like you've looked into this before. To clone animals or the clone humans? What are you talking about? All of them. I think you've looked into all of it. No, I saw the movie multiplicity. It doesn't always work out. There's always going to be some defects when you do that.

What about the dog, though? I don't think that's a smart thing. If you could bring back Carl, my old German Shepherd, I would do it. If he had Carl's mindset, that's what I need, that mindset. I don't think they can clone the mindset, JJ. I don't think they can do that. I don't know. Well, that's up to you.

Parenting, nature versus nurture. Maybe it's you that put the mindset in him. I don't want to give me that much credit for Valerie, for sure. I don't know about Carl. Maybe my wife. kind of circle was carl yeah he was hey rest in peace to carl well it was a hell of a dog tom brady doing this though does add to the thing about like man these super duper duper rich people just do sweet stuff all the time found out he can clone his dog yeah give me her

and uh you asked is it a baby dog well yeah i think j j jay asked it as well i don't know if it's a dumb question today when you clone it is it just you pick the age thank you for asking because i'm like a surrogate does it come back yeah does it come back as you know start from scratch or we're starting from like what do we do start from scratch i mean starting from petri dish i just want to build i think it's i think it's fucking weird and i i thought i was in the majority but apparently i'm not after the show i'm not a big pet guy so maybe that's what it is but it was more people on the i'm with you no what was the consensus though it was the same thing it was hey if i can clone mirf and he is the exact same dog as he is right now i'll take him if i get a knockoff version

and he's not acting like him, I'll kick that dog in the stomach as hard as I can, because that's not the dog I want. I want my dog. Don't kick your dog in his stomach. Team humor. Well, that's what I'm saying.

This thing's a monster. He's created by science. He's not a dog. He's not my dog. Listen, Tom Brady, enjoy your dog, dude. I don't think any of us are going to clone our dogs, but...

50K, too. You got a... Are you just following it the same name? Like, do you just go, like, same name and just pretend? Definitely. It's like the, uh, Oga situation. This is, uh, Valerie two.

This is Valerie three. You know, just like the, um, the, uh, Buffalo, the, um, Ralph. Ralphie. Ralphie. They got that figured out. Have you seen the newest one? He's got Spunk. A lot of spunk.

Yeah. Have you heard why the new Ralphie was introduced, Jage? Uh, no, but I do remember our Buffalo Bison talk. We did have that. Okay. So what happened was Ralphie 5, I think is what, which one it was? middle of career prime okay they thought they had at least three four more years of uh ralphi kind of giving it a go out there and ralphi just said nope i'm not doing it anymore they brought

andrew luck he's brought some hard times right there for the courts why did you do that jage i'm talking about ralphi six coming in and saving the day and that's what danny dimes is that's what danny dimes is ralphy six that is a hundred percent i don't know things aren't very well out with Colorado. No, but Rolfi's killing it. Have you seen this bison run? It runs. It does.

It does. You're exactly right, but like Colorado and Wisconsin might be a pickum right now. Okay, so let's talk about Wisconsin. All right. You own Burnley and Espaniel. Why don't you own the Wisconsin football team?

You know, I see Willie Compton giving speeches and donating his time and everything over there in Nebraska. You're both red. You're both in the middle of America. You're potentially competing for the same type of players. It feels like you've got to step up and maybe sell one of the soccer team

so you can invest directly into Luke Fickle's pockets in that team. Have you thought about that? We need to play better. Yes, we do. Significantly. I want you to give a speech. I did. Didn't work.

Oh, no. I'm so sorry. Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's definitely move along. DeBott has a question for you, Josh. I know it's a lot of travel right now. You sound a little backed up.

I mean, I know you kind of take you as a home meal apathic guy, not the, you know, big farm guy, so get your sleep, get your rest, hydrate, but also there's some drugs you can take. No, no, no, he'd take, this is raw dog. Let me hear both sides.

Debut, what should I do, and Pat? Sleep, hydrate, and eat right. You already exercise, so that's all you need. I think you agree. And for me, you just call somebody that's in the super duper world and say, hey, these are my feelings right now, and they'll say, you got it.

We're sending two IVs to you with the nurse in about 14 minutes, and then you'll all say we're going to give you this, and then you're going to have that thing out of you in by 72 hours. I would never do that because I don't like getting pricked, but I do believe that is what you super-duper owners of soccer teams can do in this entire thing. We're pulling for you, and you only got to beat it one time, remember, throughout the season, and then you're on to the other side. Go ahead, DeBud.

But back to the NFL, big news yesterday with all the trades, you know, on the other side of the Cowboys, Jets, Colts, Seahawks, who actually came out to be my winner, in my opinion, with the trade deadline. Who's your winner as we sit here about 24 hours later? I'm with you I like I mean the Seahawks are a wagon dude like the I think the west coast kind of loses I think I think there's true football fans and deep football fans obviously know it but they're putting something together out there and then you go ahead and you add your heed to it it's that's Sam darrell's playing unbelievable football that whole west coast right now with the Rams and everybody like there is some very good ball going on out there I mean the Colts make a massive swing but also pay a massive price for it yeah so you come in and we were talking about it during the game like were they going to look at a train hendricks and edge rusher type are they going to look on the back end you get sauce out there and you get mooney back all of a sudden like where are you throwing the ball on that defense um so it's the the colds clearly also putting

danny dimes in a very nice spot when it comes to negotiations in the off season if he decides to take that stance because you're basically all in at the moment and saying that this is going to be your guy yeah and we have to figure out where that money's coming from because because i I think Jonathan Taylor, if we know anything about how his business goes, he's going to be one to be paid as well. So we've got to pay Danny Dimes. We've got to pay Jonathan Taylor. We've paid a lot of people on this team. And they're going all in, and they showcased it even more yesterday.

And we're all incredibly pumped about it. Let's talk about trade deadline a little bit for you. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Jage, something just to consider with Brady as well. You ever want to win a divorce? Bring back your kid's dog growing up. That might help. When you're looking at the trade deadline.

She's not a bad play. Yeah. Oh, you want to go to your mom's house? Well, guess who's here? The dog that you grew up with that was dead. It's back. But JJ, with the trade deadline, have you ever kind of gone through that process where your agent was letting you know? Like, hey, there's a chance you might get dealt here today.

Or were you always just kind of, hey, that doesn't even matter. I don't even think about that up until the day unless your agent reaches out to you? The only time it ever happened was my last year in Houston where it was. at least like somewhat where I was like I should I be listening here should I be paying attention because we were obviously going through some stuff there and there was some organizational stuff there was there was just a whole lot going on and I didn't even know at that point um so I it's it's really interesting because you're you're aging and everybody can tell you like no don't worry you're not going anywhere nothing's going on but you still see

all the stuff on the internet and you also realize that 99% of it is all bullshit um but But I wouldn't, I won't lie and say you don't think about it. And you start to look and you're like, all right. So if this, if they did do that, where, how is this going to work? Where am I going to go? Like, it's a really interesting thing between that and then free agency. And it's, I hadn't been through that at any point in my career. And it's a, it's wild to put yourself in situations and know, like, I could be living

in a completely different place with a completely different life. And then he moved to Arizona, you know, and become a mega golfer. You see, he was out there on go. he's got those hockey stick golf clubs. He became a valuable member of the community over there. Him and AQ used to actually sweep streets a night. That's right. Pick up garbage.

And then make sure that... Congrats on the... I haven't talked to you since. Congrats on the skeleton coming back. That was a big day. It was a big day. It was a big day in the Chippley household. Thanks for calling attention to that, Jage.

I think you mentioning it might have been the thing that made those frat boys say, oh, JJ Watt wants us. Now, that only happened because the Houston Texans said, Jage, get the hell out of our building, please. You know, and that was whenever nuke was happening. That's a tough realization for some people. You know, we talked about Trent Richardson whenever he came out and said, whenever he was traded away from Cleveland to Indianapolis,

it was the moment where he was like, oh, this isn't, this is business. He thought it was kind of like a shattering moment to hear that a team doesn't want you anymore. I think players experienced that at the end of their careers as well. Like sometimes guys who've been the greatest for a long time are finally told by a team for the first time, like, hey, we don't want you. And there's like a jaded feel. You know, it doesn't feel like any of the guys. nowadays feel like that like sauce came out was like hey it's just business you got to do what you

got to do i wonder if that's because the nio era where these guys have been around money for so long it's like hey business is everything almost you know what i mean jage yeah i think the business side of things has certainly become much more understood by everybody involved i also think we've talked about it before like the the old school mentality of like this is my team this is like I live and die and bleed for this team. It's a lot different with even fans, like with fantasy football and with the ability to watch all the games. You see people from a certain city who in the past,

I only support this team. I don't support anybody else. Now we're in an era where you're supporting all different people. Sometimes it's just players and you're because they're on your fantasy team or just because you like them or maybe they got traded away. So it's the whole jersey swap thing. It's a little bit of everything. Like it's just not quite as like.

tribal as it used to be. Aaron, Aaron Rogers, Jersey, Hock, Miley. Everybody's going up here. Who got it? Did somebody get it? I'm not sure.

I am not sure. Somebody did, though. And the thing that I like is, obviously, the Colts number one team in the NFL still, and they're humble enough to understand, you know, what a legend's out there. Did I see is Soss getting number one from Downs?

Downs is going Downs to Business alongside his brother. His podcast actually, Downs to Business Podcast. and he and Caleb will both be wearing the number two. You know, Caleb currently at Ohio State, maybe the best football player in college football as a whole. And Josh, superstar for us. Obviously, Danny Dimes and he have done some magical things together.

He moves to number two because they're dons to business. And then Sawhis. I didn't even know you could do that in the middle of the season. Me neither, especially with like the jersey thing, you know, because anytime guys want to change numbers, they're always like, well, you've got to pay back the amount of money that jerseys have already been made. That's always something.

You assume Sauce probably footed at Bill. for them? Yeah, I'd assume after getting paid. Like, hey, this is kind of how this whole thing goes. Down's two business, though, being their podcast that has just launched, and them both wearing a number two, and him coming out of here saying, too slippery, too sweet, you know, to everything, it's too neat. That is a, yeah, I think that is a very good move. I like what they're doing.

And also, the culture in the locker room is great. You see that immediately from before I'm even stepping forward in there. Yeah, you're cool, dude. Let's keep it moving. Let's roll. It's no worries. And everybody coming in, Lou Anuromo, did you see his quote, Jage? No, I did not.

Well, we reached out to the building. I don't have the stuff I can't watch the ESPN shows I don't I don't have I have something I don't know what I have Tell them where to go I didn't go to the website

That you told me to go to I never said go to Jake Don't you put that on me I didn't You told me that I had to go to some website I saw you do a PSA And I didn't go to it Okay

Once again Not the boys' fault That are doing it never been an idea. Hey, aren't you, hey. The suit said it was your idea. I heard that it was you who said, guys, we should crowdsource this amongst

all of our talent. This is how we should do it. I know the social media. Hey, everybody's really mad at us. Can you go tell them? I'll sign up. I mean, other guy. We were so bummed when other guy was forced to do it. But when other guy said it, I did it. I went and did it. Go through this now.

That's basically what he said. And when he said that, I was almost like, oh, shit, okay. Utter guy's talking, I got to go do it. That one got traction. That one had like two million views on it. We'll be talking to Utter guy here in about 30 minutes or so. And once again, it's not like, I don't, we don't, like, whoever's idea that was was just coming from a place of just not understanding the reality of everything. It's like that, what?

I thought we were going to just rally. We were all going to be like, yeah, let me do it. Where's the petition? Let me sign up. I want to help corporate America. That's insane. exactly yes and also hey they like you right well let's change you that go ahead and you know like that what are we what are we even doing hey sorry just know that all these people

that people think are like these uh maybe a lot of things been saying about corporate show and stuff like that these people all love sport want sports you know what i mean so it's like that's why i get so like man why are we doing this like herbie's already got enough on his plate right herbie's already got enough people for whatever reason because he's been calling games for 30 years and has the voice that he has in this entire thing. Yeah, let's go, tell him also, tell him, tell him we go to the thing. It's like, God, you do that. Your ex account is benefiting fantastically, though.

Well, I think, you know, many would say there was a benefit for maybe all parties involved there. But on that note, yeah, it was an honor to be able to stream that. And shout out to X to be like, yeah, absolutely. We were thankful for that. And who knows what the future looks like there, you know, in that entire thing? Are we on X right now? I don't believe we are streaming live on X. Maybe.

Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are streaming live on X. Yes, we have. cool no idea i i don't even know if i can watch this show in my own house right now i've no idea the thing about x is uh phone phone laptop they they don't have the tv app yet no you know and that's kind of the like youtube has tv app everywhere so everybody can pull youtube up and put it up there but if x wants to go in a content world which allegedly they do right they really want to go it's like i think there's some things they can build up to be able to

become a real thing. They're going to have to get there, though. But other than that, it was like them being so nimble and welcoming on Saturday in like a 25, 30 minute period. That all came together in like 25, 30 minutes. Because I think the YouTube TV, I thought the YouTube TV deal was going to get done before Saturday. I think we all kind of thought it was going to get done.

Yep, I did think that. It's like, hey, college football rate, we're in the middle of college football rate. A ratings up and to the right. Like, this is certainly for all parties here, this is really good news. And then Monday night football comes, we still haven't. But on Saturday morning, whenever it's like, no, it's not happening. it's like, there has to be something here, you know? And then kind of make some plays.

It reached a lot of people kind of trying to track. How do you compare that? It's like, you don't. These are two different world. You can't compare it to a TV number or a YouTube TV number or what an X number is. It's a different place. But it was an attempt to be like, hey, we do, this is,

we understand what's going on and we would like to put another. So I think that's a good thing that ESPN did. Everybody's just kind of attacking them. It's like, it's a negotiation happening, you know? There's a lot of, there's a lot up here. But what we're saying is there's fucking ball. Yeah. Yeah.

We need to see ball. Football. We need it. And I'm not entering my information on another freaking website. And I'm not getting a confirmation code sent to my email, clicking it and coming back and putting it in. And then I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I did it once.

I have some sort of subscription. I have no clue what it is because I can only watch freaking half the content, apparently. Or it's replayed content. That's bullshit. figure it out. This is this is J.J. Watt talking here. This ain't some Rock for Brains

defensive tackle from the NFL. No. No. This is a guy that is your average American. JJ Watt saying I already signed up to watch this. Why I've got to sign up again? And then with the ability for your phone to be able to take a picture scan, QR code, then I've got to type in another password or another

code. It's like we're all kind of done with it. That thing, when that thing pops up, it get hot. This guy's breaking TVs. Hate it. And then you do it, and you scan it, and you're like, all right, I'm in. And then they're like, no, you don't have that one. So, too bad.

I mean, I'm trying to watch my guys. Like, I played for the Cardinals. I wanted to watch the game on Monday night. On that note, on that note, Cardinals have the biggest win they've had in a long time. Nobody saw it. AQ, do you have a question for Jade? I do. Let's talk about Walter Nolan and Callais Campbell, the youngest defensive lineman and the oldest defensive lineman.

Callais gets two sacks. Walter Nolan makes his debut. A sack, two TFLs, played great. What did you see from him? I love it, man. I mean, the Cardinals, we talked about this earlier in the year. Like, they lost those crazy, crazy, close games and quick succession. And their season would be looking completely different.

And it's, I mean, as a guy who still has a bunch of friends on the team and in the building, like, I'm sitting there like, damn, it would be so much fun to watch these guys having success. And then, Kaleas, obviously, dominating at the age of whatever the hell he is. He's just still so damn good. Obviously, interesting moves there at the quarterback position and everything that's going on. And then Marvin's dad comes out and rips the offense. Then Marvin has a great game. And it's like, wow, we should just, maybe we should rip the offense earlier if that's

what it's going to look like at this point. But I don't know. It's tough. I know what it's like down there in Arizona. I want them to be good so badly. And it would have been awesome if those one score games had gone the other way. And we were sitting there looking at a different story. Jacoby, the quarterback, obviously incredible leader

and ability to navigate through the offense and they have a lot of faith in as well, as they should, huge Monday Night Football win. Marvin Harrison Jr. said he was pumped up to be a focal point of the offense. And we assume that it'll be the same going forward. You tell me what Walter Nolan did in the game? I'm not joking when I tell you.

I did not see the game. I'll just read all that up. Yeah, so he had one sack, a batted pass, two tackles for loss and played against two really good guards. He showed up. I mean, he looks like he's going to be a presence. Nice. Look forward to seeing him on

Lane Kitton's boy. It'll be cleared up. If you go to the website. Speaking of that same subscription, I got that same subscription because I used to be able to watch things. Now you can't watch anything. It's just replays.

You're an upgrade. They got you for 10. They don't even let you. It's not money. I got the money. I just don't want to sign up. I don't want to enter my information again. So do you have to do it?

Sometimes you have to do it on the device in which you registered. Have you ever seen that one? Oh, yeah. Where you have to do this on the device in which you register? I'm like, I don't know what fucking device that is. When was this? The amount of people told me to put bunny ears on, like, yeah. No offense.

I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to get it to the right television in the house. Like, I'll be honest with you. I got a couple of them in the house. And I don't know how to get from my roof to the TV in my living room. It's the little ways. But on that note, I don't know if the bunny ears even work with modern television. Like, if you have a smart TV, I'm not 100% sure.

People were screaming at me in the comment. Get some bunny ears. Get some bunny ears. What the, what do you want me to do with bunny ears? It doesn't work for ESPN. It would work for, yeah, basic cable, like ABC, NBC, NBC, CBS. But yeah, if you, you ain't getting ESPN with Bucke. You know what?

Take a key. Put it on a stick. Hold the smart TV. Go to the high sill. and just get a lightning rod. That should be able to run it. You got to put a disclaimer on that, dude. You got to put some kind of...

Oh, sorry, that won't work, maybe. JJ, I don't know if that'll work. Some kids are going to go out there at the top of a hill and just get smoked by a light. Don't do it, kids. Don't do it. AQ helped me out on how to get it on ESPN because you explained it to me like when you upgraded your browsers to preview them.

Wasn't it the same idea, right? Well, see, that changed because they've changed the state laws everywhere. Put your ID in AQ, put it in. All right. AJ has the last question for you, James. James, obviously on that note, the Cowboys brought in Logan Wilson, Quinn and Williams,

especially Quinn and Williams. What does he bring to a team when he have a big dude like that that is that dynamic in the middle? He can help a lot. I think I don't think people understand what kind of impact a big dude like that can have on a defense. Yeah, sounds like they could have used a Monday. from what everybody's saying.

I don't know. I was saying it. Yeah. I mean, Quentin Williams is a guy. Like, I love Quentin Williams game. I mean, it's like he can play the run. He can play the pass. I mean, you look at the Jets and you're like,

all right, so you trade these two stellar young pieces that you have in hopes of drafting more stellar young pieces. Like, I just, I'm not 100% sure. Yes, it's a huge haul. And yes, they got a bunch of great stuff. But Quinnin's great. Do I know if he's going to fix it? that Dallas defense? No, I don't know that, but he's certainly going to make it significantly

better. The guy's a damn good football player. When you have somebody that can plug up the run like that in the middle and rush the passer, it makes your entire defense better. So, good for them. Now, if you compare, I know there's been that side-by-side done with the Micah Parsons trade and everything that's been done with the picks and everything with it, I mean, Michael Parsons is still Michael Parsons. Yes, he certainly is. In money time, Micah is going to show up in a big way for the Green Bay Packers, we think late in the year, which will obviously pay off the entire trade and then some. Here's some Hembo stats about maybe Quentin Helping.

Jared Jones on trade and Michael Parsons, we need to be able to stop to run. Okay, he's here, there, there. We tied. Most runstop wins is a D-Tackle this season. Quentin Williams, 61 of them. There you go, Jage. That's all you need to see. Okay.

He's, Hembo's drop of Stett. Most run stops by D-tackle, Quentin Williams, period. That's all you need to know. Most run-stop wins, not most run. Those are tackles. What exactly are those? Well, he's eaten up, you know. You know, ball.

Ben of your gap. Most run-stop wins. I mean, wouldn't it have to be a win for you to stop the run? How do you have a run-stop loss? Here's the explanation. A defender can earn a win by doing any of the following. Beating his blocker so he's in better position to stop the run. Disrupt.

Oh, dude, dude, dude. Swimming out of the egg out of the fight? What the hell is this? Can you let him eventually? No. There's a semi-colon. There's a semi-colon. Disrupting the pocket or running lane by pushing his blocker backward.

Okay. Containing the runner such that he must adjust his running lane, okay? Or recording a tackle within three yards of line of scrimmage. That's a run-stop win. And guess who has the most of them? Dallas Cowboys, Quinn Williams. Wow. James?

These people. These people that just make up new things. like this is like like I've seen like like there's like uh you know you should see the EPA on these run stop wins yeah in the grades on the trades

please yeah Seth Walter says that do we know who that guy is is that a real guy he's graph man that's the only thing we know the guy just makes grass no a lot of them is that what he does because he gave

Colts a D in a Jets and A if it's not coming from Bill Barnwell then you don't need to worry about what it says Thank you, Ty. Yeah, exactly. Gump's a big Bill Barnwell guy. I know his ball. I did not expect Gump from the back saying, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Bill Barnwell will tell us the truth in this entire thing.

Jage, how's Burnley? How's Espaniel? We're doing good. Español suffered a loss midweek. Oh, no. We're doing good. We're in sixth right now. We suck.

We got West Ham coming up this weekend. And Espanio, we got Villa Real, Villa Real, Villa. Real good squad. So it'll be good. But Burnley, West Ham will be a great one. And Espanel is another shot. Life is good. Yeah, it is good.

We're out of the relegation sold. We don't need to go there. Burnley's out of the relegation zone. Españal's a six. That's good. Burnley's out of relegation. We're going to stay up with the big, okay, Burnley.

It's off schedule to start the season. You guys been playing well. Gumpy, what are your thoughts on Espanio? Maybe going on a run after taking on Villalreale's weekend. They should Villarial's play in midweek. So you could. get them a little bit tired, rotating some changes. Espaniel bounces back this weekend.

Gotta beat West Ham if you're Burnley. West Ham struggling. Is Burnley still parking it or not parking it? I forget what their problem was. They would have the lead and then they wouldn't park it. And then the other team would just blow right through that. I tell you what? I'm not shitting you.

This Burnley team's playing some good footy. Really? They are much better than when they were up in the prem the last time around. Okay. How about Espanio? What do we think of Espanio? Obviously they were like third in all of the Spanish Super League.

Yeah, there it is. La Liga. Are they still up there? What style of play do they have, and are they exciting? They're very impressive to watch. Their top six, hopefully maybe Champions League

or Europa League for JJ's boys. Champions League? Yeah. We got the boys rolling over there in Spain, man. We got Peri and Milla. We're living good. We're living good in Barcelona right now. You've never been a part of Champions League,

obviously. That has to be massive for ownership if you get in the Champions League, I would assume. Yeah. I mean, obviously, that is the ultimate goal to be playing European football and everything that comes with it so he just saw dollar he just saw dollar signs look at that fast you got to be real careful because that's when the people get in trouble you make it and then you're like oh my gosh you got all this cash

throw it back in and then like it's you got to be the business side of this has been really really fun and a lot bank account yeah that's what I sound like you know no you don't put it you do it smart so that you can sustain yourself you've seen we've seen teams go and playing Champions League ball and get relegated. Like, you've got to be really smart. A lot more games during the week. Your team can get thinned out, get banged up. Like, you've got to build depth in your squad to play in those competitions.

Yeah, you've got to make sure you're not just pocketing and looking at the bottom line, Cage, okay? Yeah, trust me. You know, there ain't no pocketing anything going on over here. It's expensive as shit to run these teams. You're the best. You're the absolute greatest. Hope you have success in that, as you have in everything else in your life.

You're the man, ladies a gentleman. and you're this weekend of Houston. You're in Houston, Houston. Yeah, we've got Houston versus Jaguars who are hot on the Colts tail, five and three, Colts. Seven and two. But if Berlin slips, if Jags, I mean,

who knows, who knows what's happening this AFC style? They got real interesting after that Pittsburgh game. Well, and Cam Little's hitting 68-yard field goals. How about that? They're trading for wide receivers that everybody wants. I mean, Jacksonville is a whole different team than they were. And Houston appeared as a lot of,

if they were going to be on a different trajectory there for a couple weeks. CJ Stroud gets hurt, kind of changed that conversation, I guess, huh? That's kind of everybody's out on the Texans all of a sudden? I mean, it's tough, man. Texans defense right now is literally playing, like, a historic defense in the NFL, number one in total yards, number one, total points. Like, they're doing everything possible. It's just they're not, they've had 10 attempts to score from inside the two-yard line this year,

and they've scored on zero of them. 10 times inside the two-yard line scored zero. You have to be able to put the ball in the end zone, man. That's hard break. Yeah, but that's what's going on there. The defense is playing phenomenal, so I'm really looking forward to seeing that. And if you wouldn't mind letting the Jaguars fans know because they saw the announcer pairing come out and they were not happy that I was calling the Texans game and they think it's

going to be a one-sided fest. So if you wouldn't mind, call them down, because there are my mentions already. I told, I said here earlier, listening to you call the massive T.J. Watt's success and Steelers game against the Colts. I didn't think you were, there was one time you said we very ecstatically, and I was like, okay, I'm going to Red Zone. Scott Hanson's getting my ears going forward.

That was at the very end. That was at the very end because then you said, if... Well, I said we about us. When you kicked the outside against us, I said we, and I had to remind me that I have to tell people that I played for the Texans. He was like, when you say we, you mean, I said, the Texans. Oh, yeah, because you went to Arizona. We talked

about that. But on that note, I think you do a very good job of calling it. You also So you get good moxie in there, brother. It is entertaining, listening to you, kind of go about doing your thing. And the energy alongside Mr. Eagle there is fantastic as well. I think you're crushing it. We're proud of you.

I appreciate you guys very much. I learn a lot from y'all. So I try and take some of your guys fun and energy and banter with me as well. Yeah, I see Ash J. Just still going. It's a good one. You should continue to do that, especially because we can learn more about one of the greatest of all the time.

And all I need you to do is go to Keep My Networks.com. And maybe you can continue to watch. You're the man. You post it from the sauna next time. Do it from the sauna. 194 in there, bro. Yeah, love it. Love it.

That's really hot. I do. I got the red light and sauna and cold every day. I love it. That sauna is no joke. I don't red light. I got the rocks. The rocks where I'm tossed.

No, I don't do the red light. I don't do infrared. I do real sauna with you. I'm with you. I don't, I'm not an infrared guy. They said my inside's getting better. Oh, you do red light after the sauna. AQ face thing, yeah.

Yeah. You still doing that? Looks like it. Yeah, I'm doing it. I got I got the tower now. I got the tower. Oh wow. Wow Just walking there naked full body standing they're naked 10 minutes each so oh Oh, what's what's happening visual you put your arms out like that like your Jesus like how do you do you stand? Are you staying over 10 minutes? Oh, yeah And then you turn? And it's gonna be so tired and it's you don't stand why do you stand there with your arms out? You spread your feet

Oh god how do they get that never know you never know what you're gonna need Honestly, you never know. This is what you're saving your networks, for people. Make sure you get that on your network. Oh, sign the petition. We're talking about health and wellness here. And honestly, you take that out of the way.

You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. J.J.J. Wage. That was an aggressive move by you, I will say, on television. It was good, though. Well. It's authentic. You can save someone's life. Yeah, you're a method actor, man.

He just went right back into that infrared full body scanner and said, what do I normally do? Well, I do this, and then I do this, and then I normally do this for a little bit. Kind of get a little inside. kind of get it going. All right. Frankie Louvre's suspension was lifted, and now he's just getting $100,000 fine. My source says from the league aren't happy.

Really? Yeah, that the suspension has been lifted. They think it is a very dangerous play. They are taking it very seriously. The NFL heard what BA said yesterday about how it's not good. It's even more dangerous than the horse caller. And if we listen to what Jim Harbaugh said about it,

whenever the rule was kind of being initiated, and I think now we all kind of see what they are referring to whenever this tackle happens. So I think the league is very much like, hey, we need to get this style of tackle out of the game. And obviously it was put up for review. Former player, Derek Brooks. Derek Brooks overturned a suspension and gave $100,000 fine,

which is a lot of money, obviously. That is still a lot of money in the fine. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, the NFL, I guess, is not necessarily thrilled that that was lifted from a one-game suspension because they would like this completely out of the game. So they think precedent has to be set.

I assume Derek Brooks said $100,000. a lot of money. Frankie Louville will change the way he tackles. So it's an interesting dynamic here on what they're trying to make the game and what they're trying to not make the game. Well, then they have to call. Like if you're not going to throw the fly, none of these are flags. Like he doesn't get called one time for it. And I mean, believe me, I don't want to see more flags. I don't want the refs more involved in it. But like, how are you going to find a guy, or it's not fine, but how are you going to suspend the guy when none of it gets called in-game? Like, doesn't that kind of have to change the in-game refereeing that?

AJ Hawk, your thoughts on it all? Obviously, we've been, that's so nasty right there. We've all been a part we have as a show been a part of this becoming a rule. This would have been the first ever suspension for it. Your thoughts? Yeah, I think sometimes it's not necessary to do this. Obviously, you've got to change

the way you tackle it looks so dangerous, but some of them, especially like this one, I don't think, yeah, I could have seen this one called that one looks so nasty because you could have gone through him and tried to go through the quarterback instead of pulling him back on top of you. I don't think he has any ill intent, but it does. These ones, I think sometimes you can definitely avoid these.

And I think it's his style of tackling, which we went back to, like, James Harrison. Like James Harrison, whenever they were changing what the rules were, he got like $750,000 in fines. Back whenever $750,000 was, and still is a massive number. But I'm saying, like, back in the day when that was happening, it was huge. But they were transforming how people had to tackle. And James Harrison, since he's a little kid playing youth football, only tackled one way. And then he gets the league, they're like, we're not doing that anymore. And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do?

And now he is teaching his son, hey, you're going to do what that did because this is football. Let's make sure we remember that. But you can do it differently. And what the NFL saw was, although at the beginning it was a huge wave of, oh, no, we're not going to be able to do it. An entire generation of football players change the way they tackle, change the way they do everything. And it's like this is almost what they're trying to do with the hip-trop tackle, even though there's not as many people that use the hip-trop tackle style, maybe like Frankie Louvood. Yeah, and it's tough. And I understand why the league will be upset because this is a very dangerous play.

but I do love the move of just finding him 100K and letting him play because every game, it's not like the NBA or MLB. Every game matters so much. So I do like the decision by Derek Brooks, but Louvo definitely has to change the way he's tackling. And 100 grand, that'll get you learn real quick. Yeah, 100 grand is a lot of money. Yeah.

I mean, to anybody. Oh, yeah. Anybody at this point, 100 grand is still a lot of money. But the NFL is very much like this can't be, because those are nasty injuries too. they look nasty, you know. Those are worse, those feel worse than the horse collar for sure to me.

Yeah, and B.A. mentioned that. He's like, it's like a horse collar, but it's even worse because you've got a full body on the bottom of it. And those are also the injuries that, you know, get picked up by people that aren't football fans. Yeah. Those are going to be career altering. Yeah, it's just all not good for the NFL and for the football.

So they're trying to change that. Derek Brooks, like, 100,000 seems fair. They didn't even throw a flag on it, but if he doesn't stop, we'll obviously take the next steps. We're trying to set a little precedent here. We're here on ESPN currently. We'll be off in about 11 seconds, or so. You can join us digitally. We're live

on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus and TikTok Live. This show's dumb. The fact that you watch is even more crazy. Have a go one. Goodbye. That might be the best send-off I remember. Yeah, it might be the best one ever. But I do appreciate the fact that I, you know,

reach out to the NFL and like, hey, heard you guys his little punishment got lifted. And they're like, yeah, not happy. This is... So mad. Yeah, like legit. Like they... Because they don't want it in the game. You know, like that is in for good. The only way you can work about for Lulu, though, is in a game because guess what?

He's not tackling like that in practice, especially during the season. You're not taking people to the ground like that. That's not happening. But with how natural he is it doing it? It's clear, like, this is how this guy made it to the NFL problem. This is his style of football. And it's like, buddy, you're just Clay Matthews right now. You're James Harrison right now.

You saw it with Kareem Jackson. So Kareem Jackson, James has been suspended, but Kareem Jackson, for lack of a better, he was like a headhunter. It was like an old school throwback. Like you come across the middle. You throw a highball like you're going to pay for it. And he played that way until it was over. He was suspended what?

Like three games, I think? Three or four. Yeah. Which is crazy. NFL talk when you're talking about something that's happening between the lines. So I understand why the NFL wanted out for player safety. But I do love this shows that there is a real process. That it's not just the NFL is just dropping a hammer and saying, hey, this is how it's going to be. Forget what anybody else says. So I do love that part of that. Yeah, the NFL not liking it. Exactly, yeah.

I think that's going to be for players. For sure, for sure. We should be taking a victory lap. Absolutely. It's terrible that's happening. But the players should be like, yeah, okay. We have some power. Like, we have some, like, we have some recourse.

If they want to punish us, we have a little bit of way to fight. Way to point that out, actually. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. That's a great call. Like, this is first time, have we ever heard the NFL be like. We don't like it. Yeah.

I don't know. Yeah, I've got to think about it because it's usually you think, like, okay, it's a judge, jury executioner. but to have somebody at the table that can say, okay, no. Checks balances. He's a guy. He brings the energy every, you know,

whatever your thoughts is on the commander's defense. That's your thoughts, but he's one of their guys that they rallied behind for sure. Let's talk about some other news around the NFL, a little bit better news. Drake May was doing a Q&A at Bryant University, which is in Rhode Island. Rhode Island, which is obviously in New England.

Listen to this reaction for Drake May. That's fucking sick. Let's go to Connor. I mean, Drake's new king of New England, alongside Tatum, obviously, and all the boys for the Celtics, feels like this is the next generation of sports stars. there. And shout out to having the perfect guy. Feels like he's humble. He can

handle it. This isn't something that is going to change the way he operates. And all he's doing is getting better and better. I love that you guys are all the way on board from beginning and the bottom of the Revolution region all the way to the top. Is this kind of what you were sensing from the beginning of the Drake May era? Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, definitely didn't

think it happened this quick, but that goes back to Mike Vrabble. And, you know, you mentioned Tatum, Joe Missoula. Like, the leaders of all the four main franchises, Alex Korra, the Red Sox. I mean, Marco Stern for the Bruins, the Bruins are actually outperforming how everyone thought they were going to do. Like the head coaches at all these stops is kind of my whole entire thing is why I think everyone's very confident in the sustained success because, you know, Drake May, hopefully he plays for 20 years. And hopefully Mike Vrable's his head coach

for all 20 of those years. And then there's clips coming out of Vrable going up to Drake May right before their last driver. They kind of iced the game before, you know, taking the victory formation and it's Vrable going up to him saying like hey all the shit that happened before this drive doesn't matter like go get a first down let's win the game let's get out of here and we're seven and two so people loving Drake May incredible

him being only 23 years old incredible but more so Mike Vrable doing this on Sunday we're going to need one job so everything that's happened doesn't matter we're going to need one side to win the game

I don't know if what is Trump it's going to be We're going to need one more time. All right, one drop, man, one drop. Okay, and Dick's getting in there. Some good leadership. And Digg said, I don't know how Vrable got me to buy in, but I'm all the way in. But buying in, obviously, a big deal. Leadership, a big deal.

But Drake may be in the right guy for it all. Seems like a perfect fit. And you saw it from whenever you golf one round with him. After Clyde Christensen, he was former Indianapolis Colts coach, right, right, right, right. There's been around a long time, Peyton, Andrew, Tom, you name it. He was at North Carolina. It's his alma mater. I believe he was going back there because family

to live closer after a life of coaching the NFL. And he told us when Drake May was coming out, this is the guy. He's Peyton, right? But he's also very athletic. I mean, he led us in rushing, right? I mean, you're talking about everything that's right about a quarterback. This guy,

his youngest brother, got older brothers, very competitive, not the only successful guy, he's been there. He's been popular. He's been big man on campus for like the last three years here in North Carolina. There's nothing that's going to rattle him or change him. That's what Clyde Christensen was saying. Then you went to golf with him, and you came back an hour later, sat down on our set

and was like, Drake Mays, the number one guy. It does feel like he's the perfect guy for all of this. Yeah, because it's one thing to be the big man on campus, and I think it's another thing to be kind of a little brother and kind of look up to kind of who people you see as your heroes, whether it be your dad or your big brothers or your uncles, your sister, your mom, just a bunch of athletes, and you kind of become that little brother, and then you get thrust into this limelight. And like all these quarterbacks, like all the great ones that we either played with or cheer it for,

they're all very different. They're all themselves. They're all unique. They're obviously all talented. But him being himself. And then that little clip from Vrabel, like it seems like a small thing. That's a big thing because a lot of times in these high pressure situations, especially with young players, it can be kind of like too much. And a lot of times the coaches on the sideline that make it worse.

You know, they're panicking or they're trying to get. So just to have a head coach come over there and say, hey, I trust you, settle it down. Whatever happened, we just need one drive. And then I've seen clips of even Diggs being miced up going up to the coach, being like, hey, anything you want me to echo and get it back and around the team. So we have vets that are buying in, you know, Vrable is doing things right. But we talk about with the Jets. None of it matters if you don't figure it out at the quarterback position.

It looks like he's figured it out. And whatever role you play on this New England Patriots team, you will be a king in the New England area. Like, if you are a patriot, it didn't matter. Like, I'm sure it was like this in Green Bay or in Pittsburgh. You can be the 52nd man on the roster. You're going to be going and getting a few grand for the rest of your life, signing autographs whenever you want. So I love what he's doing.

And obviously, you know, they're used to championships up there. And they look like they have the right pieces in place to go and get another one. Yeah, you become a made man in Pittsburgh as well. That's why the 2005 team going back to Pittsburgh this weekend was such a big deal, I think, and an influence on the current team. But New England has had so much success. And just getting a chance to relive that through Drake May has to be special. What are they calling them? I saw it on the internet.

I really wish I kind of thought of it first, but a mobile Matt Stafford, and it's basically to a T. I mean, AQ brought up one of his throws against the Saints, where he's stepping up off the wrong foot, just a little flick touchdown, and I'll tell you what, it looked a lot like Matt Stafford. Drake May passes Patrick Mahomes for the longest streak of games,

a 200-plus pass yards, and 100-plus passer rating by a player under the age of 24. He's under 24 still. Eight of them straight in their only role. And AJ, what do you think about the culture that Vrabble's setting. Are the Patriots for real? The Patriots are for real.

Drake May's number two and the MVP odds right now. Still playing the Jets twice. Jeez. Yeah, I mean, it shows how a valuable it is when you figure out that if you're drafting a quarterback in the first round, it pays to get it right.

When you get it right and then you pair that up with Mike Brable and what he has done throughout that whole team. Yeah, like that's why the Patriots are wrong. And watching Drake walk in, like, that's pretty awesome, man. Like that's such a New England thing too. Like there's these college kids

chant MVP for him. Like he said he didn't expected. It's a good time to be a patriot, I feel like, right now. It probably will for the next 10, 12, 15 years it looks like it. And that's why no matter what, no wonder how you feel about the crafts, like it took balls to fire Giraud Mayo after one year. It really did because Vrable was out there. And Drake May might still be Drake May. Whether, you know, Mayo was there or not. But if Mayo's there, McDaniels isn't there. And McDaniels is a huge reason of his success. And not to mention, like Doug Marone, who's the O line coach now,

huge reason for the offensive line success. Like for the crafts truthfully hats off because it's nothing without that. When he said McDaniels he gave a big point, you love what they're doing with Trey Cohn. That's exactly where I was going to go next. Scheme and fitter everything and McDaniels is back to doing the same stuff they did when

Brady was there. It's fullback. It's, hey, let's start with the run game. Let's get the play action going. Let's get him easy throws early. Get his confidence up. And then let's take the shots. And he has the ability to take the shots. They've gotten better with the O line. You mentioned Doug Marone. That's one of the biggest hiring is all off season. Former head coach,

O-line guru, right? He comes in there after having Scarnacia there for so many years as the O-line coach took a step backwards, get Marone back in, now they're playing at a high level. Yeah, I love the thought of McDaniels going back up there having success and already tasting what a head coaching was like and being like, no, I don't know. I'm good, we're just kind of chilling here. Family likes it here. I mean, we've seen a lot of

places. We turn a plane around, obviously going to Indy, but we went out to Denver, we did some other stuff. We're good here, especially with how good Drake May is going to be. I think B.A. almost had that mindset with Andrew Luck. Now, B.A. hadn't been a head coach a couple different times with having failing whenever Andrew Luck came to offense coordinator, but B.A. was with Andrew's rookie year. And I think if you asked B.A., B.A. would have been good, which is, all right, we'll just do this. Now, I'm getting offered some other stuff, so I'm going to need a little bit more.

You can go ahead and find that somewhere else. All right, fuck. I'll go be a head coach, I guess, Arizona Cardinals. And then I'll be a head coach, Tampa Buccaneers, and I'll win a Super Bowl. But some of those coordinators, they do see something, and they see what their life has. been, it's like, this is a happy life for my family night. I'm going to get paid a couple million bucks here and we're going to have success. We're going to be hunting for it. Maybe they stick around up there.

Especially playing with it for a defensive hit or not an office. Like, it's, it's your show. Like, you run the show. Like, we trust you with the offense. And obviously, Josh McDaniels, he's a maid man in New England. He's won multiple Super Bowls, you know, coach Tom Brady, all the good things. But, like, yeah, when you have that pairing, obviously that was the pairing with Bill and all the different OCs that came through.

I'm sure OC's probably like that. that relationship as well. All right, so there's some takeaways from the week. Let's go to Akew's takeaway from week nine of the NFL season. Here we go. Brissette's brilliance on Big Dons. Obviously, you're the Arizona Cardinals Color commentator. Had a big one on Monday night is those of us that couldn't watch on YouTube TV,

listen to your call, and that's kind of how we survive through it all, so we appreciate you doing that. But you're saying on Big Dons, Brissette showcases brilliance, what do you mean by that? Yeah, he's been great on third down. and I think a lot of times I mentioned it earlier, you just run a screen or hand it off on a draw. They run pressure right here. First, third down of the game.

Watch the subtle move left, put it right on Marvin Harrison Jr. And by the way, he was fantastic in this game. They target him early and often. Next clip right here, again, bring the blitz. You get the overload right. Check out this blitz, debuts. They're going to drop out the left and bring the DB.

Get the overload to the right. There comes the DB. Sit in the pocket and deliver another one. Trusted it. Trusted it. That was third and 10, huge gain, 15-yard game. This last one, 18.

Your gain on third down again. Here it is. Five-man rush. That's another blitz. Sit in the pocket. Feel the pressure. Deliver it on time. Dimes.

It feels like there's one guy he's throwing that ball to a lot. Jacoby sees, we got a man out there. We got Marvin Harrison, Jr. Yeah, we should throw him the ball. Yeah, but he dropped the ball early. Yeah, but also he didn't do the comb, he didn't do the meetings,

and we still draft him really hot because this guy is a freak show. They're really finding it out there, it feels like that. Yeah, I love it. When you build that continuity, you build that trust with the young wide receiver and the quarterback. Same thing with Tray McBrose. ride like when you build that with them because you wanted more out of Marvin

Harrison since coming into the league you see these young white receivers takeover early so get him going his pops came out and say hey I don't know what the fuck's going on out there so they figured it out I love to see what I see him some of brilliant percent I mean there's been a lot of conversation about what goes on over there Jacoby percent incredible leader and I think everybody's feeling it in the building is what Peter Schrager said what's your next takeaway coming out of week nine of the NFL season a Q's Darnold dropping dine oh he started he started this game 16 of 16. He was unbelievable. Let's take a look at this first play right here.

Hits Arroyo, the rookie tight end. Watch this ball. Just over, look at that scene. How good is that? And there's about 16 clips like that in this game. I only chose three here. Let's look at this next one. Sit back, sit back. Watch this. Little hitch, drop it to JSN on the silent, just drops it in a bucket. This last one. Two minute, too. Let's take a look at Gray's able to left guard first. Let's take a look at this one. He recognizes, oh, we get a dropper. Boom. Get him out of the way. Step left hit the seven route to the rookie horton unbelievable yeah sam darnell's special that what they're doing on the road too is insane yeah 11 and one warriors yeah on the road and this is a long-ass trip i mean dc seattle that's a long-ass trip they look more prepared than anybody else macdonald's an incredible leader

darnold perfect quarterback for them he's incredible and they are the best in the national football league kubiak comes in as the offensive coordinator they are leading the league and play action pass it's incredible what they've been doing good for sam darno by the way we've talked about it a lot of times good for sam We thought he was going to Seattle to disappear. Yeah. We thought there was a chance that was going to happen. They had completely different mindset. They're taking over over there in the NFC West.

And then obviously your big takeaway, number one, is a curtain call. Curtain call. Yeah, let's take a look. They played like Steel Curtain, didn't they? Yeah, two batted balls right in a row, 36 years old. Cam Hayward, look at this, stops a touchdown batted pass. That's the first guy. Now let's get to the next one.

Here we go, Mr. T.J. Watt. Little, do you see that? Can we run that back real quick? Watch them fake the long arm. Then go to the dip and rip. It goes right around, sack, fumble, and recover. He baited butter right there. Unbelievable.

Now, let's go to the other side. No, I'm just saying, why are they doing it against us? Sorry, here comes again. Other side, hi, Smith. This looks familiar, right? Dipp and rip, go around, sack. So, honestly, I was watching them get beat like turnstiles against us. Sorry.

You know, you just showcased a couple of them here. Our offensive line has been good. Is this the depth issue with the quarterback? Is this just pure pressure? Like, what is it? Why do you think this happened on this particular game versus maybe every other game this season? So I think their tackles were a little soft, and they didn't do as much play action with the chipping and all that stuff, which I'm really confused about because they got some of the best edge rushers in the game.

The other thing inside, Quentin Nelson always struggles against the Steelers for whatever reason. If you look over the years, he's always struggled against Cam Hayward and Fletcher Cox, both what? Big, powerful dudes in the middle. So I think he puts a little bit too much onus on trying to sit and then get swim. And then there you go. You get the batter ball. You get the sack.

You get whatever it is. Yeah, Cam Hayward's a beast. Been around a long time. Monster. Yeah, he's one of the pillars of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's why they had to get a deal done with him before the season started. But their D-Line played like, you know, I would assume Steelers fans thought with the amount of money that they've given to them exactly how they would have hoped they would play all season. Let's head to hammer.

Don, Don. What do you think about the steel curtain call, AP tone? Yeah, it's awesome. And AQ highlighted the guys on the outside in High Smith and Watt. But, like, he talked about Cam, who's 97, 95, Keanu Benton, and 99 Derek Harmon. in our first round pick. Like, they were awesome as well. So the three in the middle stopped the run,

and then the edges were able to pin their ears back and get to Danny Dime. So, like, if we can do that, Super Bowl. I think there's a sack on there of 95. I think this is the clip right here, actually, against Gonzalves. Look at that move. Little Reggie White inside, humpmoons.

Hey, I mean, that looks like a teach tape there on how to use your hands, especially in the middle of a line. Jalen Ramsey playing safety and Tomlin committing to that, or Jalen committing to safety, forward because of injuries. What does that do for the Steelers defense? I mean, I like Jaylen Rams. I love him as a say, as a defensive player, period. He can play the

slot. He can play outside. He can play safety. At this stage, his career, I'm sure he would probably want to pick one and just because he's such a smart player. So when you can see the game and prepare and game playing and do all that shit, watch cutups, whatever you're doing from one position that you're going to be playing majority, that can make you much more impactful. But you got to stay healthy and you got to have guys that are talented enough to hold up on the edge. AJ, the Steelers defense always been good. You know, that's why the Steel Curtain is a real thing. Pittsburgh

defense. Like, hey, defense. Yeah. Pittsburgh. It's just kind of what you think about. Honestly, Bill Carr, obviously his team's great defense. Talk about that. You go all the way through this Tomlin era. It's always have good defense. He spent a lot of money. Pittsburgh's expecting good defense.

He spent a lot of money on good defense. So when you don't have great defense at the beginning of season, there is calls for fire alarms to be pulled. They show up like this. Do you think this is what they're going to look like the rest of the way, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, like what six turnovers, coaches always say, turnover is coming bunches to start getting them,

and then, bam, they will continue to show up. I think as a defense, you can kind of like build momentum and have games like this that are pivotal games that we look back on after the season, and you think, like, okay, we finally started to put it together, and that was one game where we figured out where it clicked in a lot of our guys' heads of, hey, this is what we are, this is what we are capable of doing.

It's good bright thoughts. Do you take any ownership of giving them the fucking rat poison and finally put number one. Listen, some people got to learn how to handle success, you know. Whenever you get success, you got to handle it. You got to show up the next week. They laid an egg. I don't know what to tell you. That's not my fault. Town, final thoughts. Yeah, a couple

unsung heroes. Peyton Wilson, I believe he's had 13 tackles back-to-back weeks. He's 41. He's the one who batted it coming off the edge that Jack Sawyer caught. And then trade deadline. Didn't happen yesterday. It happened last week. Got Kyle Dugger from the Patriots. He played, I think, like, 74 of 75 snaps or something, something like that.

he came in, didn't hear his name once in a bad way in the game on Sunday. So him and Ramsey at the safety positions really kind of shured things up. Congratulations, Steelers fans. Back on the wagon. Right. Age, I don't know if you know that they're winning a Super Bowl again. The Steelers? Yeah.

Yeah, I feel that. I felt that. I mean, you could tell on Tone's face. Like, yeah, that's what they think. Did you get a text or anything about not picking the Steelers this weekend? I did not actually know. I forgot I didn't pick him. Yeah, you took the Colts.

We all did. I told you. I got to take that. I said I was a believer of the Colts and I was like I got to pick him now until they proved to me that I shouldn't pick him I guess. You remember last time whenever we're out in Utah, they were chanting fire Canada. A lot of Steelers fans in Utah.

I think that's just, I don't know why. I don't know if Pittsburgh has marketed Utah, but it feels like there's a lot of Steelers fans out there every time we go out there. So many Steelers fans on my way off stage out of there going like tomorrow we got the Colts and I go we might hang 50 on you. Like literally just so matter of fact

that's all I was talking. Like Hey, this Colts offense, absolute juggernaut. Your defense, not good, right? Isn't that kind of what's been happening? We might run wild on you. All those people watching that Steelers game, they thought the same thing going into it. Jensers won't admit it,

but they were definitely all thinking the same exact thing. Holy shit, we're going to lose by 60 to this Colts team. Our defense can't stop a fucking nosebleed. There's no chance we're going to be able to do that. Then five turnovers, they're swarming all over the place. They got sacks and bunches. They got the boys going crazy. the 2005 teams in there.

The answers were like, I can't believe the Indianapolis coach thought they were going to come here. What fucking asshole said that was going to happen? It's like, all everybody was thinking that now, fully different trajectory. And it might be the 2005. Yeah, I think that's the X Factor. I know it definitely played a role.

I don't care if it was college or pro. Like, if you have a whole team of your guys who came in and kind of, hey, this is the standard. Obviously, still is still curtain goes way back. Carried the baton. Yeah, this is, these are the, we got Dick LaBoe in the building. got all these legends. And the Steelers already do a great job of keeping those guys around. Yeah, those guys are going to play better. I didn't think they were going to show back up

as a legit fucking seal curtain, but they definitely show up. That's a lot of people showing up for Yeah. Like that's a lot of people showing up for legends. And that makes sense for Pittsburgh. Like it just makes sense for the entirety. Hey, Kus, a lot of happiness these dudes brought to our lives. Yeah, they sure did. And I got to play with some of them when I got drafted there. I mean, look at Big Casey Hampton. He looks like he can still play. Yeah, he certainly can. He actually looks better for me. Yeah, it does. Looks incredible. Casey had to do what Casey had do. I also think Casey,

after the amount of respect we have for sumo wrestling, I think we can speak on this. Casey Hampton would have been a grand master champion sumo wrestler, I think, if he would have known about the sport. With his leverage, his ability to do his thing. Look at Fanica. That guy was what, down to like 135 pounds at one

point because he was running Iron Man. Yeah. It was like that. Good squad. Jeff Reed, just being right in the middle of the staff, I'd do a little bit. Yes. I'll continue. Shout out beat man. Aaron Smith. Oh, yeah, there he's up right. Travis Kershke, big hokey up top.

Oh, I like it. Kendall Simmons, remember him? I do. AJ Hawk. IT. He doesn't. AJ. I'm just looking around.

I'm perusing through there. Sorry. Hey, who's 81? Who's 81? That's the greatest special teams, players, dealers have ever had. That's Sean Moray. I remember the name.

I remember the name, Sean Moray. I like the way Sean Moore. Ninety one could still play as well. That's Aaron Smith. Greatest three, four. defensive end of all time right there. Great jaw line, too. That fucking guy looks like he just got done

roping. Jesus Christ, what a dog. Next foot. Bottom left. Jeff Harding's up top, right in the middle behind Reed. Dan, Crater, right there in the middle, number three, five. Yeah. Who's number three? Jeff Reed. Yeah, that was kicker.

That was kicker. See, them went on to become the lead singer of Creed. Oh, actually. He looks sweet. Jeff Reed, exactly. Hey, everything you're thinking. Everything you're thinking right now,

awesome. Jeff Reed is, yes. Just by looking at him, yes, he is everything. Legend. Yeah, he is. Made a lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. A lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't realize Tommy Gunn and Chuck Pagano are the same person.

Yeah. They look identical. I guess Tommy Gunn, Maddox, top left corner there, eight. Quarterback, obviously, for a team. He does have a little Chuck Pagano in him. I guess he was a super vibes guy in the locker room. Oh, I don't doubt it. I guess Tommy Gunn was a real lightning rod in there.

SFL MVP? Yeah. I guess he was really the straw potentially in that long. Really? Yeah, from what I've been told, I've heard some stories of some stuff just in the past. Who knows what's real, what isn't? But all of them are like, yep, Tommy Maddox is awesome. Basically is how they talk about him.

That old team is, and you're right. Them being around certainly did some whizzen hunt there. I just saw him. I just saw that was my first time catching eyes on whizzen hunting. That's look good. The amount of legends that are in there. Former GM. Kevin Colbert.

Right there. Yeah. Golly, that's our. childhood. Yeah. Thanks for showing up, boys. I wish it was a different week. So to help with Mr.

Lotton for scheduling that for the Colts weekend. Can we have that be another? Hey, homecoming weekend. Can we do another one? Can we do another weekend? Maybe not to Indianapolis Colts. Let us kind of have our thing and do our thing here. That would be great.

Let's take a break. On the other side, Stanford, Steve will be joining us for another college football convoy. And I'll tell you what, with the college football playoff committee's first bracket reveal, there's going to be a lot of talk about AJ Hawk. Who's sitting in number one? I think that's the Ohio State Buckeyes.

They played anybody? I don't know. Have they? They showed up in. They showed up and dominated everybody. They've dominated them. Who did they play last week, AQ? Relax, dude.

They played a terrible team last week. I was there. They got athletes. They got studs, man. They look good. And they looked apart. They looked apart against Oregon, too. remember that goes a couple overtimes

oh yeah they win that game who knows where we're at right now yeah they're probably ranked number three or four in the in the playoffs because then they probably beat ucla certainly beat iowa then they beat northwestern at home then they play ohio state

and they got a heisman trophy candidate and they just let him run by him all day long like he didn't know he could run like they didn't know he could get behind the defense they trust their guys they were calling quarters they trust their guys wait till you see this highlight of the linebacker come up Arvel Reese he's the guy

What number is he eight? Yeah so there's about being off there's about being offensive play here Jeremiah Smith obviously one hand he's insane And then you get this sick look Right Oh yeah He's gonna be an awesome pro as well Teach shape

He knows like 6 4 like 245 too He's a monster he's huge You and Sean Perkins before the first college game day whenever we're there for the Texas game. And Texas is back to being who maybe everybody thought they could be. They're like, hey, I was like, Sean, who should I say up there and make sure you look like a super genius? He goes, number eight, Arvel Reese, he's the one.

I go, sweet, thank you so much. I go up there completely forget, just basically, just completely forget. And then I think you had like six sacks or something in the first, like, two weeks or something like that. They're like, hey, Rvel Reese is the guy. I'm like, Sean knew before everybody. And I could have looked like a genius. But instead, I'm riding alongside the wave of holy hell who's,

that guy with everybody else. But you look at their schedule. Desmond Howard makes a point. Now, he's a Michigan guy, so he's always going to make a point about Ohio State. But it is like, you guys have just smacked everybody in the mouth, basically. It's just everybody. And it's not your fault. I mean, fuck, it's not Ohio State's fault.

And they've showed up and dominate everybody, but we don't really know. We don't really, we have no idea because everything has looked so damn easy for them. But that might just be who they are. Yeah. They might just fucking do that to everybody. We have no idea. Certainly did the Penn State. What are you guys going to do?

Yeah. We're narrowing it down. We're tracking planes, I heard. And we're narrowing it. All right. Throw your hat in the ring, AQ. Sorry. Paying probably pretty good for that position.

Yeah? Tell me to do it for 15 a year. 15 hansh, because you love Penn State. I just do it for one of those stupid Jeff Landry contracts that he was talking about. One of those, yeah, just fun of those incentives and paying by game. Someone's a little salty. They don't know Nebraska football. Oh, yeah.

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The conversation we're about to have is not like the other ones. No, no, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another college football convo with Stanford Steve. Yes, Steve, oh. What's going on? Sweet. Digital camo. Yeah, what's going on?

I mean, you look really cool right now. What is... So what do we have here, Steve? what is this? Just some Navy, Fear the Bones, you know, Jolly Rogers, a little Navy, big game this week. Oh, hell yeah. Hey, Navy, tough one against North Texas.

Not as tough as Tyler Huang with you under the upright, though. You know. I stand by. Sorry, Jonah. Jonah. Jonah. Yeah, a lot of kicks I saw this weekend look very similar that were all called no good.

I appreciate you doing this for the good of the team. I appreciate Herb Street, bringing out the blockers. I respect the fact. the fact that Jonah was a high school kicker all region going three of five. And I also love the fact that everybody was kind of saying, no, I think it hooked in. And you were like, nope, because I heard everybody in the ear going, no, I think it's good.

I think it's good. I don't think so, says Stanford. Steve, everybody in there was saying it's good, it's good, it's good. And you're like, and then you even want a step further. Yep, that thing actually, nope, sorry about it. That one left, brother. Yeah, that one. Yep.

As this kid's celebrating, Steve's looking him right in his eye. I don't think so, brother. you think that once a review obviously they counted it from the angles that we had but i want to let you know i appreciate your integrity to say with these eyes i didn't see it go in and that's what that segment needs is good integrity in there so thank you stanford steve yeah i didn't think it was conclusive that you know when it went to the review i didn't i didn't think it was conclusive so uh yeah we're moving on can't wait till this week uh we'll we'll get after it yeah i hope to go to lubbic i like your move i want to let you know i do appreciate your move and if the camera angle

wasn't where it was, it might have looked a little different, like maybe it was a miss, and you're a hero. Instead, I think you were the number 6th or 16th trending topic in the United States of America, and a lot of people were saying, this guy's an asshole. This guy sucks. Yeah, this guy's an asshole. So I appreciate you sticking up, and then your tweet later.

Yeah. That SMU kick looked pretty similar. What was that? Same thing. Same thing. Steve's got a point. And they said, no good there. Steve's like, oh, I'm the bad guy? I know ball, is what Steve's saying. Oh, we covered the upright.

You see? Oh, no, he didn't. Same kick. That's no good. It's like the same kick. That's no good. That's no good. That is no good, Ty.

Side by side, they're both wide right. Stanford, Steve, you're a good man. We appreciate the hell out of you. Love you, Steve. We also did go to a website because you told us to. Yeah. Although, we don't love that you were told you to do that. We went because we love you.

We support you. Same with Herbie. just know that Stanford, Steve, even though people are saying that you're trying to, you know, rob these kids of money and everything like that, we think you're a good guy. We love you, Steve. We love you, buddy. Love you guys too. Appreciate you. You know what else we love?

The thought of starting with 12 counting down to one. And last night, we got the first bracket from the actual committee that's going to be doing the selecting of the college football playoff. What's your big takeaway from last night, Steve? And what should you be thinking about? Basically, Tone's take was they don't respect

Oregon much. It seems like Oregon doesn't have a lot of respect. They're one loss away from potentially being out of this entire thing. Is that something you agree with? And what else did you see? I see where they're coming from with Oregon, but I get it with the best win being against Northwestern. Now, the good thing about Oregon,

they have plenty opportunities moving forward. I thought the top three, I wanted to see what that was going to look like. And I had a feeling Ohio State was going to be with what their game control and what their dominance has looked like. Plenty of people have talked about the competition that they've, played, but I look at them being ahead of Indiana simply due to one reason. Look who Indiana scheduled in the out of conference and look what Ohio State did and scheduling Texas in that opener. So I have no problem with Ohio State being number one. A&M might have the best

win in the country at Notre Dame, but there's other games with the defense. I thought the board chair made good valid points with how dominant the defenses of Indiana and Ohio State have been compared to one, you know, little thing about A&M, yeah, the defense has given up more points. The biggest takeaway to me is that this committee seems to be rewarding close losses. And when you look at Notre Dame with two close losses, at that, you know, last play at a game,

they're ahead of, say, you know, Texas, Iowa, plenty to play for moving ahead. But it seems like they got a lot of credit for, you know, keeping it close against Indiana in a home. game. So that was one thing I thought was pretty evident that close losses look to be a factor for this committee. AP, tone, your thoughts on the close loss theory from Stanford, Steve? Yeah, I mean, he's absolutely correct. I mean, Notre Dame lost on, you know, a fumbled snap at home to A&M in overtime, and then a close loss down in Miami in week one. And then if you want to

talk about Texas Tech, who is right ahead of them, their only loss is on a last second play to Arizona State. So when Steve's talking about the close losses, for sure, and Georgia's, you know, close loss would be better than Oregon's, obviously, because, you know, IU kind of handled them a good bit and their one loss being to Bama, who's

the number four seat. So, yeah, as far as Steve's talking about those close losses, that is definitely a thing and that's definitely going to drive people crazy. Yes, definitely going to drive people crazy, but this is also going to make some football people pumped about, hey, who do you play, what are your losses, where are your losses, what do your losses look like, when, where are your losses,

Like, that is something that I think a lot of people hope that they add into the decision-making process. What are they going strictly off? Each kind of committee has their own thing, right? Stanford, Steve, isn't that kind of part of the problem? Like, this committee might view things vastly different than last year's committee. And then people will say, well, last year they didn't. And it's like, well, this is a different, a completely different situation, right? And that's kind of like the evolving process of the CFP committee?

Yeah, that's, you know, I think some things are subjective and object. You know, people want to throw all those big words around. and I'd try and just watch the games and figure out who's the best. But the way my record is going this year, I can't be on that any say. So I'm going to listen to the people that are in the room in the committee. The one thing I will say is that the idea of the losses with Miami, you know, I was interested in the Miami-Nodame comparison. And Miami being eight spots lower than Notre Dame tells you,

I think it's more recency. You know, Miami is as frustrating in their losses as anybody. you got one loss where the quarterback throws four picks. Another loss, I believe they had 13 penalties in an overtime game where they had the lead and had a costly penalty for SMU to get a field goal. So Miami is the one, I think the biggest loser to me right now because when you look at them moving forward, there's not a lot of opportunities along with Vanderbilt.

They don't have a lot of opportunities to get wins and move up as does Oregon, or even say a Texas Tech or BYU. like they have ranked teams on their schedule. So Miami being down that far, it was pretty eye-opening to me. Yeah, bad for the ACC as well, you know, and obviously you lose games. That's what's going to happen, especially up there. And you start asking yourself, is there going to be two bades out of the ACC? Are they only going to get one?

Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Steve, looking at the, you know, games remaining, especially with those teams that are on that bracket, is Georgia-vers-Gent versus Georgia going to be the biggest game? You think in that, you know, rivalries history? but as far as just foreseeing what the playoff's going to be, Georgia Tech goes down, someone else goes in, Georgia goes down, they're out, all of a sudden maybe, you know, a different SEC team, Texas by chance they slide in.

Well, what do you think about that situation kind of brewing now? Yeah, I think it's enormous, Connor. When you look at Georgia Tech and what they are, their strength of schedule, I believe, is in the hundreds. And, you know, that's a team that every year is going to play Georgia, right? So you got out of a conference game there. They go and schedule Colorado, who you think is going to be all right, but they're getting worse and worse every week. You beat Clemson, and Clemson might not make a bowl game, and it's just tough.

And then you have that game that catches up to you where you can't get your defense on track against NC State, and you get that first loss. But they are in control, you know, the comparative thing. And that's why I think the Miami-N-N-N-Rame thing is unfortunate also is as big as these conferences are, we get less and less head-to-head. I think head-to-head should matter a ton. So the Georgia, Georgia Tech game is going to be enormous as far as comparative. You know, it's an out-of-conference game. It's an SEC versus ACC. And, you know, to Georgia Tech's point, it's not going to get in their way of making the ACC title game.

But, yeah, that's, I thought they were ranked properly with what their resume actually is when you take a step back and look at it. But they got a couple chances for some monster wins. But, yeah, that game is enormous, to your point. You talk about the SEC and the ACC showing out there at that particular point for maybe how many bids should they have. And then the Big 12 obviously has a lot of teams vying for the Big 12 championship still very much in it, which is a beautiful thing. I mean, BYU, Utah might be having a holy war reunion at the Big 12 championship game. But then you think about that other conference, you know, the one up north, go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Steve, when you look at the back half of the rankings with Iowa, Michigan, and USC all clustered right there,

do you think that suggests that more than likely the Big Ten is only going to be a three-bid league because obviously you could make the case that either SC or Iowa would swap with Oregon potentially because they both still have to play them. And then obviously they're kind of saving grace to get a fourth team in would be Michigan potentially beating Ohio State. But the way this is set up right now, do you think that that means that the Big Ten is probably only getting three teams in? Yeah, that's the way it looks right now. What I will say to those teams, you know, control your own destiny, whatever, what have you, it's there. The issue I have is if Michigan wins and beats Ohio State, they're going to be in the

Big Ten title game because their other losses out of conference. So you would have potentially Indiana, Michigan, in Indianapolis, and Ohio State sitting with one loss and in the most recent number one team in the country, which would, you know, throw a whole flux. Iowa, it's there, man. I would be pumped if I was an Iowa fan I am you're 20 yeah I mean what a weekend for you you got the Packers Monday night we got Iowa CBS 330

good luck I hope you don't have your kids this weekend geez used to time send the kids out there it's a big one Iowa can win maybe the biggest game that they've had in a long time during a regular season yeah I mean it really is all in front of them you know it was kind of like a tongue and cheek fun now lingering yeah lingering but like they I as of right now I really do feel like they're going to beat Oregon this weekend.

I don't think there's been this much juice around an Iowa team in quite some time in the building as well. But then the true test, I mean, obviously that's a test, but they have to go to USC. So it's like if they could get through both those teams, though, like look out. Iowa might be sneaking in there as like an 11 or a 12 seed. Go ahead, Tom. Steve, I was just looking at that and I brought it up earlier, but I wanted to get your opinion. Notre Dame's sitting at 10 and then right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, both with two losses. as well. Texas still has Georgia and A&M. Oklahoma still got Bama. It's a big if, but if those

teams went out, is there a chance they jumped Notre Dame and Notre Dame sitting on the outside with their two close losses? They should, but I don't see it happening. The most definite thing I feel about right now is that Notre Dame is going to get a home game in the playoff. When you look at what they've done, and, you know, I just wish they were down a little bit, so they had to earn that 10-game win streak to get in. And you prop them up again, like I said, to the two close losses. And then everybody throws away what they look like last week against Boston College. Boston College is atrocious.

Stanford beat Boston College. They are not a good football. Stanford's playing good ball. Bill O'Brien said they're showing up and fighting. Okay, you want to be negative. Get the hell on out of here. Signs up. I love Bill O'Brien, but they're not a good outfit.

As I said. Oh, that's what the guy asking the question. good outfit. Yeah, the guy asking a question of Bill O'Brien said this sucks, basically. Bill O'Brien said, I don't want to hear it. This is a real press conference. It happened what, yesterday, maybe two days ago. Yeah, and even worse, if you go back

to how Bill O'Brien got there. Guy could have been the O.C. of Ohio State last year, if I do remember correctly, or was that two years ago? But either way, I think it makes sense now why Jeff Halfley left B.C. because they got no resources up there. Well, Bill O'Brien said it sucks. up and we're playing football.

Amen. He's about sick of all the next. Tockey season now for the BCE. Yeah, they're going to be an FROs in four. We know they're going to be dangling around with their sticky mix. We understand that that's going to happen. But yes, you're talking about Notre Dame's big time wins. They're going to have to put on a show.

I think Tone said at the beginning of the year, he said if Notre Dame wins every game by 30 like they did last year and they just kind of do that for the rest of the year, they're definitely going to get in the college football playoff. I assume they were already out because they had so many wins. But Texas A&M being who they are, obviously is a big deal for them. Like, I think that's a big deal. And then Reese Davis, who is a very influential person in college football, he speaks to the committee.

He's one of the only people that get to do that. He hosts college game day. He said Notre Dame, I test top five team in America. And it's like, maybe, and maybe just the two losses are completely tough luck almost because everybody talks about the Notre Dame schedule. Like, Notre Dame's able to schedule whoever they want. They're independent. They're going to be on national TV. They got enough money.

They're able to kind of do what they want. They don't have a conference championship. They have it easier when it comes to that. like they scheduled some tough ones early. They lost them both. And then the national narrative for the first time was like, Notre Dame was done. So it's like a very different Notre Dame season

as opposed to like one where they're kind of who are they played, who are they played, who are they played? Now it's like, well, they've actually played top three teams, top three team lost them close, very close. And they've dominated everybody else. They're going to get in, we all assume. Yeah. It's Notre Dame.

They should just say at the start of the year, no matter what, Notre Dame, you lose two or last year auto bid. That should be a part of the rules. because remember the SEC and the Big Ten allegedly like, hey, if you make the championship game, you should be automatically in. So, like, that's what I think was being talked about, because

you know, the big angle started to become, well, these guys aren't going to want to playing championship games because it's another loss. Like, what is a championship game? Championship game means nothing because these teams don't care because they just don't want to get there because they don't want to lose. And it's like, well, if you made an automatic bid for both finalists of the championships, then

it's a whole different conversation. We're not there yet. You know, we're not there yet. But whenever we get there, maybe it is like a finalist for the championship games get in, and Notre Dame, if they have less than two losses, they also get a spot. All the other spots up for grabs. All the other spots up for grabs. There's a chance that they actually do that, Ty. Yeah, I mean, but it's Notre Dame, okay?

So we can say all this kind of stuff. It's one of the most powerful and biggest and most beloved institutions in the United States. So if they're even on the cusp of potentially getting in, you know, they're going to going to say, hey, you know, would you rather see Notre Dame or Memphis in the playoff? Well, Memphis is obviously a group of five. No, yeah, I get it. They got their own slot. There's no reason

for you to tag. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you know, if Notre Dame is even close to getting in. You think that committee's going to say? Got a lot of old white people on that committee. How many of those guys are Catholics? You think they're... I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Hey, enemada de Padre. Yeah. And feel like. Espiritisantu. It's a bit of a son, too. Amen. Yeah, there is... Let's get Notre Dame in this thing. Now, that is always the problem. It's probably Baptist.

That's what everybody thinks is actually happening. Okay, that's what everybody is thinking actually happening. And there's a chance any time humans are involved. There is a little bit of bias. Now, let's talk about bias. Let's talk about trust. Debutt has a question for you, Steve. Yeah, I want to ask you, Steve, maybe even you, Tony.

The eye test. Which one of these quarterbacks, if you pop up? Which one of these quarterbacks do you trust the most down the stretch? Ooh. Mendoza, Moore. It's Mendoza. Simpson. Simpson.

Sayin. Reed. Bachmar. Goner. Granowski. Thank you. He's not on her. He should have been lingering, though.

Lingering. Yeah. Grinowski's outside of the graphic. I mean, I look at all the toys that each quarterback has to play with, D. But, and they all have awesome, awesome, you know, deals. where, you know, saying continually, you know, you see them open up the playbook more and more, more throws down the field. Marcel Reed, you know, doing more with his legs in that win the last time we saw him against LSU. Simpson's a guy that's probably responded the best to adversity, you know, knowing what Florida State looked like, but then ramping it up.

And I thought him being the reason, you know, third down, fourth down conversions at Missouri, at Georgia, jumping them early. I would probably trust Simpson because I've seen him face adversity and I know what I'm getting. But, I mean, the guy we're not even talking about in Mendoza, I'm not sure what Sarrat's going to do is he going to be out a couple weeks. Indiana sounds like they got pretty banged up. So I'm interested to see how many guys they have. I'm not saying they're going to, you know, blow it at Penn State. But right now, when you're saying with all things aligned, I would look at at Tyson. What are we even saying these words, okay, blow it and all this other stuff?

Let's not put that on the universe. Obviously, Indiana's having a miraculous run. Fernando Medoza, an absolute stud. But you're right, the injury is certainly something. And, AJ, let's talk about Julian Sane. He's the odds-on favorite to win the Heisman. Nobody really talking about him strictly because he has so much talent or because you guys haven't played anybody.

Not your fault, but you seemingly haven't played anybody, AJ. Yeah, I mean, they're in a tough spot. They are so good that no matter who they play, they're going to say, oh, this team sucks anyway. Like, Penn State started out. Weren't they number one in the country like preseason? Like, I understand things happened. But, yeah, they're taking care of.

business and I first I went to the first this is the first Ohio State game I went to in person this year the Penn State game and watching I was like we got a little pregame field pass with my kids and then they usher you up and get you off the field you can't sit there and watch the game there and I hung around and watched like the first couple drives and Julian staying the ball man I tell you what Pat you know when we see a guy throw a ball in person you can kind of tell early and that dude he's got it like he I know he's thrown to some studs but this dude he has the moxie how he carries himself how he walks to the huddle how everything about him like he seems like he's been starting for 10 years.

What year is this for him? Second year, I believe, right? Yeah, red shirt freshman, right? Oh, so he's got another year at least. That's great news from Ryan Day and obviously the entire offense, but he's not getting much chatter at all. And I love that Coach Saban said he was at Alabama, and the coach had him playing scout team for an entire year.

What a dumb ass or something like that. It's like he has been high on saying, Coach Saban has been high on saying since like before the Texas Ohio State game. And now he's odds-on favor to win the Heisman. It feels like the sports books are high on him. We need an Ohio State primetime match. We need a

massive game. And AJ, to your point, Penn State was supposed to be that they're not. It's like every game it's supposed to be and then it's not. But there's teams that get caught by these teams though. And Ohio State has not. They've maintained their dominance. And that defense is outrageous, AJ Hawk.

That's the thing I wanted to ask Stanford. Steve, we asked like, hey, which quarterback do you trust or Pass the eye test. Which defense do you trust the most, Stanford? Steve, when you look at those top four to six teams. Yeah, I've thought about this a lot, watching these teams, AJ. And to me, Ohio State plays better team defense. Indiana has better difference makers up front. But when you, I mean, you guys talked about Arvel Reese earlier. Like, I saw their first or their last practice before the Texas game. I'm like, who the hell is number eight? Where's he been hiding? And then he's just gone crazy this year. I love the,

Obviously, you love the back end styles, both of them, the speed they play with. So I trust Ohio State the most. I would just, if Indiana is in that conversation, I understand it. But they have more difference makers up front. But Fisher didn't play against Maryland. He's the quarterback of that defense. He really impressed me against Oregon. But overall, trust, I go with the Buckeyes.

All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you so much for joining us. Oklahoma's defense also very, very good. They're right on the outside. if they're able to find their way in. And we're heading to Lubbock, Texas, down there, BYU, Texas Tech.

What should I be knowing? I've been hearing a lot about tortillas, and then tortillas, I guess, are kind of bands or something like that from the game. And obviously, I can't wait to get down there. I've heard we got some cowboy mentality. I am very, very lucky, Pat. I was there in Lubbock for the greatest night in the history of Lubbock,

the Michael Crabtree catch against Texas. It's probably the best sporting event I've ever been to in my life. The place was absolutely insane. If you go back, it's Halloween weekend. The Batman movie with Heath Ledger had just come out. Everyone's dressed as the Joker. I mean, it was nuts. And they get the Crabtree catch.

They rush the field like three times. Like when there's one second left in the game, Texas Tech has to kick off from like their five, yard line. And the field is just absolute madness. Like I said, the best atmosphere I've seen. So they're supposedly they're already camping out. Be ready for some stakes the size of your head. Yeah, I'm standing right there like the 10 yard line. You can see me. Oh, yeah. Oh, there. It's not the other guy. It's that the outer guy. Absolutely scene with what was, I think, I think McConaughey went up to the press box because the sidelines were so crazy that night. But it was an all-time

You want to talk about West Texas, man. It's all in Lubbock. And now with the money, I'm hearing Coach McGuire said you won't even recognize it with the facilities and all that. So I can't wait. Like I said, steaks for your head, the size of your head. I can't wait to eat one Friday night and Thursday. I like big old meat. I like big old meat, especially, you know, you get a little cowboy cut, you know, on that thing,

a little bit savory sauce on that thing down there, you know. And you got one big old hat you walk in there. You hang that some bitch on the wall. because we like to show respect to the place that we are. You got them boots on, you got a buckle on, and by God, we're tucking that some bitch in, and we're going and button that all the way up. Maybe pops.

Definitely got a little bit of inseam on this thing right here. Definitely a little inseam to pop that thing up to if we want. I can't wait to get down there. You already got the fit picked up? In my mind, I see what it looks like or could it look like. Or some pearl snaps. Some pearl snaps on your shirt. So, certainly a possibility.

but on that note there's a gentleman I don't know if I should say his name or not but he was some town what's that like the person who like coordinates what events come into town and stuff like that it's like a town community organizer something along this it was a voted in something

okay this guy whenever we went down to Texas for something he was there he delivered me a cowboy hat my name is blah blah blah they call me the wolf have you ever seen anything like that I get things done, yada, yada, yada. Welcome to Texas. Sick, cowboy hat, this guy. Sick.

He had boots on, obviously, the entire thing. I'm like, hell yes. I wore that thing on Game Day. That is the, I believe it's the, it was either the tan one or the black one. I forget which one it was. But it was, the first time I wore one. It was from this man. This man is a Texas tech grad.

So he has reached out and been like, hey, listen, we got ideas here. So I think I'm going to be pretty suited and booted. We got a lot of belt buckles being offered up. Obviously, they earn them down there. I just buy them. It's a little bit different animal. but they are a sweet accessory to add to yourself. So I think it should be a pretty country-ass Saturday.

I mean, they're camping. Yeah, we talk about them camping out. They've got like tents lined up outside the stadium, I think for them to get in there, set up Mario Card outside. I mean, they are- They're kids taking shifts. Yeah, garden tents and spots to get in there. It's like the place is outrageous, and they got a huge one against BYU.

I cannot wait to get down there. Literally, Graham Harrow, what a stud, I heard you say his name. He's awesome. Great throw. Great throw, great. How do you stay in bounds on that? It's kind of like that Ryan Williams from the other day. Yeah, very similar. You're right.

Blake Gideon dropped an interception right before that, too. See, Toddy, brother. Always come back and bite you. Catch the ones they throw you. All right, Steve, we appreciate the hell out of you. You look awesome. Ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate you guys.

Hey, thank you for wearing a WVU. We won. Huge win. Monster win. Now we're a favorite this week. Come on. Is the hard edge back? I think so.

I'm thinking, yeah. Fox quarterback? Yeah. I'm thinking we got a guy. The moxie through the roof, hard edge reel. And these guys have all had to battle through one training camp with Rich Rod, one summer conditioning, okay, and hard times this season. So the guys that are still playing and still there, I think are a bit hardened. Like I think we have kind of maybe got to the point where it's like a culture is close. And then obviously we're going to have to add in in the off-season, but it's like maybe Rich Rod is able to find a little something out of these boys.

Yeah. Maybe he is a little able to find a little something out there. And in the Big 12 now, I know Texas Tech is obviously going to be good. BYU is going to be good forever. Utah is the real deal, but Mount Nears start climbing all of a sudden. Now there's a little bit of an East Coast fist fight coming to town.

You know, coming straight out of mountains with a hard edge and an attitude and hopefully a lot more boosters going forward. We need more. Steve, why don't you come give some money to West Virginia Mountiers? Can the Jerry West estate help out maybe?

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think they do. Maybe they do, though. Maybe they do Johnny West, his son, his boy played basketball. Yes. He was awesome.

Johnny West was a great guy. But yeah, if you run into anybody with a lot of money, just ask them if they want to pick up the West Virginia Mountaineers. That's what I'm doing right now at this moment. yeah and we're going to west texas there's a lot oil money down there maybe maybe maybe they like west virginia yeah i fear though yeah with us being in a big 12 with them i need to find a natural gas exactly hmm i need to maybe get my own

my own rig to kind of dive down there and get natural gas maybe we're the west virginia gas mountaineers you know what i mean maybe we get in there i need to talk to jerry jones to find that shit you're the man ladies of gentlemen stand for step yeah Hey, Jay, I don't know if we've gotten your full take on Jerry Jones thinking he's going to make $100 billion, so why? What are we talking about football for right now? What are we talking about football for? What, we can't do?

Like, we have technology now. He can still go manage $100 billion possible, I guess, well that he's trying to pump out, and then still work on the Cowboys. Look, he's still able to make big deals, bring some players in. That's right. He's the one on the phones making all these trades as well. He is the general manager for the Dallas Cowboys, and we certainly loved the way.

He's just come out and said, yeah, if it's boring, I'll fucking start it up. just why not. If not me, then who? We're going to talk about the Cowboys, but there's a $100 billion present value with gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with the Dallas Campbell. I woke up this morning.

I got sent a memo. I fucking printed it out. I read it. He said $100 billion. Who's $100 billion is that? That could be yours, Mr. Jones. All we've got to do is get three miles down. It's going to be tough to do, but if you give us about a billion dollars,

would be able to get $100 billion. Is this in about a week or about a month? Probably like a year, sir. Well, let's get some shovels. Let's get this thing started. And that's Jerry Jones in a nutshell. He's always going to go for it. He goes big.

Him getting Quinn and Williams feels like he says he's going big. I got one trade already done. That was the Logan Wilson. I might have another one. I might have another one. Quinnon comes in there. You know, he's always going to be the topic. Are they ever going to be able to win?

And maybe they need to make play for an offensive line. Because if you have a great offensive line, you have a great football team. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in the trenches with AQ Shippley for a top five performing offensive lines out of week nine. Thank you. Number five, eh, Guiche. San Francisco 49ers. Wow.

Yeah, you can't control who you play, obviously. Sorry, Bruce. They're not very good on defense right now, and everybody's running all over them. Let's look at this backside combo, though. You got Jake Brendo out with an injury. Insert Matt Hennessy, former Atlanta Falcon, gets to climb.

Use check out in space. Trent Williams doing his thing. Christian McCaffrey runs through a big gaping hole. We love those. If you go back to the beginning real quick, quick, Foxy. Remember a couple weeks ago we had Uchek as a tilt. He faked it, went this way. Now we gained plus one on this

toss. Cracked toss gains leverage on the defense. Love the way they ran that. Is use check still the indicator on where everything's going? Is that what you're finding? He always is, but the thing that they're doing differently now is now they're starting to send them one way and bring them back. So you can't get full tells. It's pretty

cool what they're doing. Yeah, I fooled me once. Shame on you. Fool me every time that's Uchek football. It seems like he is always going right where the play is going, and it's right off his ass, and it always works. Congrats him putting together maybe one of the greatest fullback resumes in the history of ball. Who's number four performing offensive line

of week nine? Wow, the L.A. Rime. L.A. Rams. Wow, congrats to them. Yeah, they did a great job. They ran for almost 170 yards this week between Kairn Williams and Blake Korm. Here you got Blake Korum. Check this out. You call the perfect play into a slanting defense. Everybody slants? Cool. All you got do is seal the edge. Look at Parkinson on to

Mario Davis at the second level. It might be a hold, but got away from it, or got away with it there. And then look at Pooka and Kua, getting this thing started. Outside wide zone, I mean, anybody can run through that whole boys. Pooka Nakua, giving it up for the boys, obviously love everything about it. Sean McVeigh always has a good run game. You know, there was that one year they had a potential ass offensive line. They addressed it and move on. He respects the position, I believe. The thing I love about what he's done this year, if you go back to 16, 17, when he first got there, he was ahead of the game. He was

doing all the shifts in motion. They were going jet motion, and they were just pushing to spots. This year, they went back to simplicity. They are doing every, single thing the same way, same formation, and they are downhill at you and running the zone. Oh, I just saw the number three performing an offensive line out of week nine. Holy hell, that's good football team. Good football team. The Carolina Panthers. Wow, congratulations that big way. If we can pause this real quick, I'm just going to set this up. This was a pivotal play in the game, right? This is the play that got them into field goal range to win the game. And if you look at Bryce Young and you look at Rico Dowdell, they notice that

Michael Parsons is standing up, Cooper standing up. See him talking? They're basically bluffing, making it think, like, hey, we're going to run a pass right here, and you got him in pass protection, and then they seal it off, they hand it off, you get man coverage on the back end, brings the safety out of the box, everybody seals it off, and you get the huge run right there. First Don, win the game, set them up, obviously, for the field goal, bluffing the Green Bay Packers' defensive front, everybody's saying we're going to go for a pass, and instead Dowdo shows incredible patience. AJ, this Dowdell fellow, Rico, is awesome to watch.

He can't be pumping and gyrating after he scores touchdowns. He's learned that lesson, I guess. We all have that some refs just ain't going to have any pumps. I'm a no-pump ref. You can have two pumps, maybe, with other refs. You are a no-pump territory with me on the call. Rico learned that. And also, I think we're all learning.

He's a dog, A.J. Hawk. No, he's awesome. And correct, Bryce Young. Yeah, he is very, like, demonstrative when he's going over and pointing and bluffing this whole situation. So hopefully he continues to do that as the year goes. But, yeah, look at that. Like, all right, come on. I guess he would get you thinking, though, if you're Mike

and you're just as well. Is he messing with me? Like, this is, this is kind of weird. I haven't seen him do this a whole lot. Like, yeah, that's, that's a thing, man. Bryce Young's growing. That's funny to think about, like, the respect the defense has for you is how they're going to respond to that. Okay? If they think you would just give that away like that,

that loud and that easy, they're like, oh, this guy, what a dip shit, and then he can get work. If that was somebody else who's, like, an established, I'm not saying Bryce Young isn't going to become that guy, but if that is, like, Peyton or Tom or Drew, even who just signed a deal to call games for Fox. Drew Brees is going to be in the booth

alongside Adam Amin, front of the program. Good luck to him going in there. We all assume that this is the replacement by Fox for the situation that happened with Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis. But the fact that Bryce Young, you know, pulls it off at the stage in which he's at, it's almost like the perfect time for it because I don't think the defense thinks something is up immediately.

Like if Peyton's doing that, everybody's like, you think. Huge. Yep. Payton, why would Peyton? There's no way he would be given away that much. Bryce might be a guy, huh? It might be. That's next level stuff. And that's situation right there.

It was second and 10 tie ball game less than a minute. So like if you do throw a pass incomplete, now you got third and long and then you maybe give Jordan Love and those guys an opportunity. So that's a good ball right. That's a good football right there. Hey, Carolina Panthers are good football team. They are. They're a good football team. And Bryce Young, although he did have the lowest quarterback rating in the NFL this past week, he still got the win, did enough, did what he had to do.

They're running it. They're running it. They love Rico Dowdle down there. He's not real. I've talked to guys in the building down there. Love Rico Dowell. By the way, let me say this, too. They're on their seventh offensive line combination.

They continue to get hurt, and they continue to run for 150 yards. I would love Rico, too. Who's that O-Line coach, AQ, do you know? Yeah, Harold Goodwin's my guy. He was my O-Line coach, nine of my 12 years. Goody and Joey Gilbert down there, the operation. Big deal. Great vibes.

Oh, yeah. Those dudes, great vibes. Incredible vibes. Now, they've been coaching a long time, especially in the offensive line world. But, yeah, that's an incredible job. And I assume they're potentially the ones that are telling you, we love Rico. That's exactly right. Everybody's life a lot better.

Special culture they're potentially building. Speaking of a special culture, number two, perform an offensive line of week nine. Yeah, the Buffalo Bills, and they were the most physical team in this game. It wasn't even close. Whenever you line up against the Kansas City Chiefs, you've got to beat them up physically. They got guys across that can be bullies like Chris Jones. They took it to them. But this is their bread and butter play.

you, Jackson Hawes, their new tight end and Reggie Gilliam, every bit is important to this offensive line. They love this play. Send the tight end back, get the full back up, get the seal by everybody else on the offensive line, skinny through there. Unbelievable job. That's first and ten in the second quarter there. Got a couple blockers leading away. James Cook cooking for the Buffalo Bills. I like the physicality of this team. I like that they will fight you. The Buffalo Bills defense, what they did in Patrick Mahomes, and then offensive line-wise, we talk about Dionne Dawkins. They will. They're going to have to it. Oh, they're physical. Dawkins is unbelievable. David Edwards, incredible, former Super Bowl

winner with the L.A. Rams. McGovern's incredible at center. I mean, obviously, Spencer Brown's an absolute psychopathy, self-described. I think we saw that a couple weeks ago, but their tight end and fullback are awesome. I mean, they got a really good team. On the other side of the ball, their defensive lines playing really well, too. They got a one of their guys back, I don't know how you pronounce his name, H-O-E-C-H-T. Is it? Hight. Hight. Okay, so he tears his Achilles in his first game back, which, big loss for them, because he was bringing some juice. Yeah, the Buffalo Beals back in it. You know, a buff is six and two right now.

Second in the AFC East behind the Patriots were seven and two. They've already had their by week. How would they finish in, wow. This is a massive one. The number one offensive line in week nine, the Chicago Bears. Congrats to the Bears. Wow. I guess high scoring and fair.

The Bears' offensive line had to be great. If you turn on their film, there is bodies on the. the floor on every single play. And I love, you got to give Ryan Poles a lot of credit. He went out and made some crazy moves this off season. We're going to really bring in a bunch of new offensive linemen and it has paid off. If you watch

this, check out this. By the way, their left tackle, Braxton Jones starts the season. He gets injured. They put this guy in this Canadian who was on the practice squad. Theo Benedict. You want to talk about a block? Let's watch this dude. Climb on the safety. Run his ass to the fucking sideline. Barry him into the fucking back. That's

illegal. How good is that? That's actually pretty awesome. I can't lie. Okay, so that's the left tackle. I don't want to be that defender, but that's great. AJ, so that's the left tackle. And I think the boys in the back got another clip of darn no, right. Let's take a look at this.

Here he is to our left playing right tackle against Shamar Stewart, the first round pick. Take his ass and bury him on the other side. Jeez, Louise, the bears are burying these bangles bodies deep into the dirt. That's it. I thought I was trying to think of another B word, but they're for real, huh? The monsters of the midway are actually the monsters of the midway. Who does that remind you? That's the Detroit Lions offensive line.

Just beating you up. That's what Ben Johnson's bringing to this team. Wow. Ben Johnson's culture is settling in everywhere. Yeah, so you're saying that the offensive line for the Chicago Bears is going to be good for the rest of the year? They're healthy. Dolman, the new center, unbelievable.

The two tackles are playing great. They got Jonah Jackson at right, and obviously Tune, he's an absolute monster. I mean, they look really good. Chicago Bears are a real deal, Ty. Good luck, Bob. Well, and Rutgers legend, Kyle Minungi, getting his first start and running for 170 yards too i mean i've been saying it all year you hear everything from ben johnson don't love it you watch them play don't love it but we'll see

you know i mean you can't play the bangles every week geez bangles are an interesting spot they really are they didn't trade trade they didn't trade no they didn't do anything they didn't do anything bangles sir we're sticking with our guys yeah we like our guys let's go ahead and try to get this thing figured out what an interesting time for them and what an interesting time for the Chicago Bears. They have the number one offensive line in the trenches with AQ Shipley as the Niners, Rams, Panthers, and the Buffalo Beals

are the rest of the top five. Congratulations you, boys. Way to go. Way to battle. If your offensive line's good, your team's good. So that's what we've learned from this particular segment. So whenever you see the Carolina Panthers show up at three, it's like Carolina Panthers? It's good football. It's a good football team. This week.

Nah, it's a good football team. It's every week. You're right. It is week to week. It's week to week. Connor, maybe thought, you forgot about a team maybe. Yeah. They couldn't run it. They didn't run it very well. Yeah, definitely not the pictures.

They fucking stink at blocking right now. They've given them. They've given up like eight sacks and, I don't know, maybe 11 sacks actually until the last two weeks. They're close, though. They are close. All right. Let's get to some deeper ball in the defensive back world. Let's go secondary eyes through the eyes of everything, DB.

Good, D, bad D, with Darius J. Butler. Yes, sir. I talked about it on the offensive side. I think they won kind of. trade deadline getting Sam Dardo and Kubiak, another weapon with Rashid Shaheed. And we know what this defense has been under Mike McDonald. Now, you're getting third in 17. That opens up the full playbook for what we love.

Some exotics here, some overload bliss. So if you run it back to the beginning before the motion, the defense does a great job disguising here, maybe showing some type of single high if you see the safety up top. I believe his last name is Okada. Is that you pronounce it? You'll see him up top. Has his hips open like he's going to rotate to the middle of the field? And then post-snap, Witherspoon, the corner up there to the boundary,

you'll see him blitz along with some other guys, and they'll drop out, and this will be a five-man pressure kind of umbrella fire zone. So he begins to be the flat defender, continues to sink, watching the quarterback, and goes up, climbs the ladder, high points his ball, and makes a phenomenal interception on the sideline. Got both feet in. Is that what it was, just like on the offensive side? I mean, the Buffalo Bill's offensive line on in the trenches,

the Buffalo Bill's defense on everything DB, good D, because of how physical they are. obviously making plays here. But were they just clearly the more physical teams? Yes, and that's the mindset every week in NFL. You want to set the tone. You want to be the more physical team, especially when there's two teams that, you know,

they're very familiar with each other. They know they're probably going to see each other again in the playoffs. So you want to kind of set that tone early in the season so that when you see them later, you know what's going to come. But you have some young, and they also, I think, lead the league in disguised defenses. And they have some moving parts on the back end. Seattle, Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo.

So they disguise a lot of. their coverages. Now, it can't be some holes and they can be susceptible to some things, but they played very well and you never see Patrick Mahomes under, like he was like 15 for 34, I believe. You never see that style. I think going back to Texas Tech, he, that was

the first time. Yes. He was in college I think. He was under 50%. And he came into this game where, you know, he's favorite in the MVP. Like he short his eyes. So it was a great performance by that Buffalo Beals defense. Another great performance. It's Jacksonville, Jaguar's

defense second in the NFL with interceptions. But I want you to watch the bottom of the screen. Cover two, flat defender. You got the tight end motion out, so he's going to widen him and try to run this quick hitch route. Great job getting his will, staying down in that cobra-like demeanor, eyes back to

Gino Smith, and then making a great break on the ball. This is a low-scoring game, so all of these turnovers, these interceptions matters. Great job by the DB, getting the ball, finishing the catch once again, unbelievable play. Yeah, Gino Smith, you know, tough with the Raiders. Obviously, this game goes to overtime, so every turnover, every play matters.

The Raiders decide to go for two for the good of ball. But Jacksonville seemingly good football team, too. Find a ways to win close games. Yeah. Well, their defense, have they been good all year? So the numbers, they aren't great numbers-wise, but like splash plays, havoc plays, like kind of how the Steelers were early on there getting wins, just creating a bunch of turnovers.

And last season, they were bottom of the league and creating turnovers. So up to this point, second only behind the Chicago basketball. bears when it comes to intercepting the ball. Okay, now it's time for some bad days. Some bad day. And unfortunately, we got to start down in Miami. Lamar Jackson, he returned, and Mark Andrews was eaten now. We got Mark Andrews down here.

He'll be circle. And he's going to run, if you pause it here, what's called like a mesh route. So you got two crossers, you got him coming from the right side, and you have Isaiah likely kind of in a similar position on the opposite side of the formation. And they're basically going to try to run their defenders into each other. Now, usually one guy should be high, one guy should be low. But Mark Andrews does a great job here of faking the pick and then just climbing and the defender on them

if you run it back again. Just watch. So our technique here, pause it right here. So you're coached up to a tailpipe right here. That's what we call it. Get in the tail pipe, D. Butt. So actually, go ahead, explain it, AJ, with a tail pipe technique. I don't want to get in the tailpipe exactly what we mean.

You guys are diving in guys' tailpipes. So just tell us what that means. You get right up into his tailpipe so then you cannot get picked and you're directly behind him. So if he runs into something, like you're using his body as protection, you're sticking right on him. And then when you clear the pick, you can hopefully undercut him and maybe get a pick or, you know, PBU. Okay, so the tailpipe is you're on the bumper. Yeah, exactly. Directly behind him.

If you're inside of him all, you're getting picked. You hit somebody, I hit somebody here. Exactly. Directly behind it. But right, I mean, right before contact, if you run it back one more time from this wide copy, you can probably see it from the replay as well. Mark Andrews kind of takes like a little stab with his left foot and then immediately climbs. And I think this was designed because you had a free hitter.

You had a free hitter in the pocket right up in Lamar Jackson face. But Jackson continues to kind of sink back and they just make an accurate throw in his back foot. But great play design, great execution from Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews there. So much chaos right there. So much trust out of Mark Andrews too. Yeah. Because he's just running looking back.

There's another guy right in front of him that he could obviously get clipped. It's just insanity whenever at all times up. perfectly. And Gumpy, let's talk about the Dolphins defense here. The boys are taking care of each other. The Ravens don't even have to do anything. Yeah, it was a rough night for Dante Trader. He's a fifth rounder, rookie out of Maryland. He's been very good all year, though.

This was just an off night. He's also a very good lacrosse player, too. Oh, wow. He's actually a dog. He's been one of our best secondary players all year. Okay, we like him. Go young players. You're going to have these moments. For sure. Learning moment, for sure. And then Pooka Nicole, welcome back. You'll see him. One of the things about

12 is hard to double him or even scheming how you're going to take him out of the game because you never know at the snap of the ball where he's going to be. Pause right here, so he's kind of like an offset fullback right now

when the ball is snap. Stafford's going to do a good job, play action, and then this is just an absolute dot. I think it's pretty good coverage down the field. You can't ask for much better coverage, but you couldn't run down there and place this ball between the one and the two

better than Matt Stafford did here from the pocket. It's just unbelievable accuracy, timing, and trust from Matt Stafford and Pookin the Cool. So I wouldn't even, This is a technically bad defense, but I just had to show big wholesome love for being back out there showing back up. Yeah, and obviously hitting the pile on counts as a body part, I do believe. So that's two contact.

Stafford's been doing this for so long, AJ. I know. And look at the time he has, too, credit to this O-O-Line, because this is kind of a late-developing route down field like this. But, man, you couldn't throw this any better. This is beautiful. How many times you play against Stafford, a lot? A bunch. Yeah, he came into league in, what, 0-8 or 09?

Oh, 9. I mean, yeah, I don't know, probably six, six, seven years, twice a year. So good. Damn. He was, you know, he was a clear cut number one pick for a reason. And something that Calvin Johnson Megatron said earlier is like, you know, it's not just fastballs. You can see that the game is slowed down the time from. He's seen defenses change a bunch.

You've seen him do it with different offenses. But he's just, his arm talent, like he can make every throw. You see the look off throws every other week. Like, he's playing quarterback at a high, high level right now. So not necessarily bad D, just Grado, but how to figure it out D? Now, do we have another bad D? Now, that was Grito and good D, but this is, this is as bad as it gets. 41.

Oh, is this Hall of Fame nom? 42, right? This is a Hoffnaw. Wow. Bad D. Hoffnum. I mean, anytime you got 83 points with 25 seconds after the cloud was bad deal on both ends. But this is tough. I don't know what the Bengals, what the plan was here, coverage-wide.

because you're just, it's 25 seconds left in the game. You don't want to give that team the opportunity to get an easy catch and getting the field goal range and set up for a game when the field go. But they just say, you know what, fuck it. We'll just let the guys score right here. Now, we see this week in and week out. You got to wrap these guys up. Like, I don't care how long you play.

You can't tackle anybody in the National Football League with just a shoulder bump. You have to tackle these guys. You got to wrap them up. So for him to catch his ball and have two safeties right here with the opportunity to get them on the ground. Man, I didn't even think about it. Are they playing no moss here? No.

Are you sure? They could be. Get the ball back to Joe Flack. 83 points. Let's make sure we get the ball back. Is this no moss? This is usually the situation in defenses that I've been on where you're going to play. If you go back to the wide copper, you're going to play some type of sticky coverage,

maybe even bring some pressure, but you don't want to give up easy. It looks like they're playing no moss. It looks terrible. It looks terrible. It looks like they're playing. It looks terrible, but I mean, hell of a play by Colston Loveland, the rookie, making the big, the biggest play of his career so far. And great job by the Bears sneaking out of there with a win.

And congrats to Colston Loveland in all the good videos of him coming out after he scores a touchdown. You know, it's nice reminder like, hey, this dude's awesome. Where he put some bad videos out of it? Well, just when Tyler Warren was doing his thing. Oh, of course. All anybody was saying was, remember, this was the second draft of the time. I even said it a couple times because, like, we were going to probably take a tight end.

And it's like, it was chosen for us to take Tyler Warren. And it's like, this guy's the best player in football. So there's been a lot of that. They'll probably be compared to each other. I don't like that picture. They'll be compared to each other for a long, long time. But Loveland, Loveland is a talented, very talented kid. Oh, is that?

He's spinning up there? Put his mouthpiece in? Oh, the ref looks super cool. Yeah. Rex specs on. Yeah, the refs are incredible. We need to make sure that we get players, we need to get players. into that reffing thing.

We need to make sure we get back into that. Now, I don't think the reps were as asked this past weekend before that, but I'm certain we could find some cases. They just need to not be the story ever and that's going to be tough, especially whenever humans are involved. For sure. We appreciate the hell out of you, Dee Buck. You too, Akew. Thank you, boys. Great time. Thank you.

Great to see you, man. Great to see you guys. A. Kew looks good, Dunny. Oh, yeah. AJ, he's getting a little conscious. He's a little body coach. He looks great, but AQue. I ran into a guy who said he is a, what do you call it? Wingmaker, what's your thing where you do in Arizona for the golf tournament, the big charity deal?

Thunderbird. Thunderbird. He's a Thunderbird with you. I forget his name, but yes. He's one of that. That helps a lot. Memorable guy. Michael Phelps.

I forget. No, it wasn't Michael Phelps. Did you call him a wing maker? I didn't know. I forgot the term of what they called that thing. A Thunderbird, but in your head it was wing maker. So I guess bird, maybe? I know I probably wasn't right, but I thought that would jog his memory to what I was

speaking of. And we got there. We got there immediately, but just the fact that your brain remembered it as wind maker. Wing, wing, wing, W-I-N-G, wing-maker. What is the term, what is the real term? Thunderbird. I was, I mean, Thunderbirds, wing, W-I-N-G, like a wing of a bird. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that is my exact point. The fact that your brain remembered it is wing maker and it's Thunderbird is a beautiful depiction of how that thing works up there. You Thunderbird save the city, though. Thank you for your service to Arizona. Thank you. We donated over $20 million back to Phoenix this year.

Thank you. Wow. One year. One year. Speaking of wings, how big were those wings on a heavily Hawks? I hate that I wasn't able to be here to, I had so many questions. That was so good. Those things were platinum, brother. How many inches were there? How were they in real, real? They're 22

inches, apparently. 22 inches for his 22 inch biceps, obviously. Yeah, and we looked up the average biceps pythons and boy those 22 23 inch pythons were gigantic for the time. About two times the size of the average human you know, the untrained male if you will. Did you expect Heavenly Hawkshire to kind of be the

breaking news guy for heaven just as a whole like all the names that He had some stories. I mean, just tossing it back and forth with Jackie Robinson. That was, you know, it's awesome. Number one, obviously. Honestly, I was surprised to see him with wings, you know, in the halo. I thought that took more time, but, you know, with the St. Pete. St. Peter's. Big time Hulk a maniac, I guess.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not shocked, but yeah, that was, that was awesome to what? He even predicted the game. That was the coolest part for me. I was watching the baseball game and I was like, well, I know Will Smith. Like, why are we even watching this? See, we already know how it ends. World Series winning home run, Will Smith, just like Heavenly Hulkster said. I mean, it was honestly, there's a chance Heavenly Hulkster. You might see him again. I don't know.

It feels like we might have threaded the needle here to find to kind of figure this whole thing out. What a run. I did see Real American Beer commented underneath. It was like, hell yeah. Yeah, exactly. He is. He made it. All right. Let's get that out of here. It's a nice Wednesday. Yeah.

It's a great Wednesday. It's like hot. Is it hot there? It's warm. Is it? I don't know. Unseasonably warm. Yeah, it's good. High 50s, I think Yeah, 60 64. Boom.

That's beautiful. Oh, so we're going to sit outside right now, probably. Boom. Tebow? Be careful. You say, Tebow? There are a lot of bugs in there. I thought, I figured there might be.

It was actually a wasp in a... Oh, yeah, that's right. Somebody got stung by a wasp. I did no idea that still happened in November. And that crazy? Yeah. That's still taking place. Did you know those exist still?

I did not. I thought, yeah, when do they usually do? die off or take on, get out of here. No way, November, they still survive. I had no idea. I seen one yesterday, and then that some bitch came back and did a sneak attack on somebody and all of a sudden, oh my gosh, what was that? Stung in the finger. Wasp? Or was a wasp?

Wasp, yeah. Is there a wasp nest in there? Just spray that sucker. No, I think this is just a solo act. Solo. Yeah, I think the wasp was all by itself. Hopefully. Yeah.

But nest is in the walls, most likely. Yeah, usually. Most worker and male wasps, they die in the fall. His temperatures drop. But the queen wasps, well, they survived the winter by hibernating and start new colonies in the spring. Wasp also died from old age. You know, these fuckers live to 12 to 22 days. What a waste of a life.

That's it? No, that's the worker wasp. I guess it's too different because the worker wasp is the dog of the wasps. Plus, how long is a day and wasp a year? Yeah, that's a good point. Your question. Starvation, predation, or environmental hazards like pesticides. I'll tell you what, the pesticides really.

flipped all these fuckers on their head. Do you think they tell each other? Like, hey, you got to watch this shit. Go over there. Do you think? For sure. Yeah, definitely. I don't think so.

Natural selection. Really? How about birds? Don't you think birds have gotten dumber? Well. What's that? I know. I mean, I assume con man is still on the bird train.

Technology has only gotten better, so I assume birds have only gotten smarter. I saw a lot of birds on, you know, telephone poles and wires on my drive home yesterday. an unruly amount. So much I almost got on my car and took a photo. Charging up? I don't know. You think they're all strapped in? I mean, I'm not kidding.

There was like 2,000 birds within a half mile. You think there was a surge, a power surge? I just, what's it about? I don't know. You tell me, what are these birds? They're flocking, huh? The birds like to flock? Is that what they like to do?

Oh, that's convenient. That's convenient. They all like to just stand on power cables? Fascinating. You've been seeing them flying. in circles like together it's crazy yeah the birds I'm just talking about birds nose diving into cars remember I don't know if they always used to do that

birds flying into my windows like all the time all the time I'm like how stupid these fuck I know you got clean windows you got clean windows yeah I guess but also I think maybe even dirty windows these things will fly they say they got bird brains you know that's obviously not a good thing but shouldn't these things be talking to each other like hey don't fly in the houses don't fly into cars and stuff we're talking high speeds these things are dead I mean, they're hitting their heads, breaking their necks,

exploding their skulls and then falling, you know. Blood, everywhere. Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe they want to end it. They don't want to get eaten by a bigger bird, maybe. Well, maybe they need a little therapy bird somewhere to get out there and have them chirping a different tune. Legit.

You know, we need to have to kind of figure it out because... Big bird. I don't like having to explain it. McKenzie. This bird, yeah, it's not supposed to fly into this thing. It's dead. Yeah. Oh, didn't the aisle just fly in his Shottie's house?

He did say that, I believe. He's staying in the condo, he said. Hey, staircase, bro. Staircase. Yeah, owls are mean sons of bitches. You cannot have one of those things in your house. You remember the staircase. That was his defense, right?

Yeah. Yeah, and I'll tell you what. That guy had, he let a colorful life if you find in that documentary. Yes, you do. We had the lawyer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you remember this?

No. Have you ever seen the staircase? No. Guy in North Carolina. wife ends up dead in his house he's the only one there obviously he gets accused of it there's a lot of shenanigans

a lot of shenanigans in this entire thing it's crime doc inevitably his defense was that an owl flew in grabbed her by her skull and she tripped down a staircase and died that was his defense it was a lawyer did he defend

I mean the lawyer's offended him yeah he was the one he was the one telling the entire story about how this was possible because these owls are fucking aggressive which is one of the skulls I think so yeah if my memory serves me accurately grabbed her hair skull

and then she tripped down staircase because of it or something Wow I'm gonna watch this on the flight home It's a hell of a store I think it's like three or four part series It was during the Tiger King had a run Then this had a run

Then a staircase had a run It was like one of those Takes a few turns AQ that you might not be expected Perfect What I need is he Is he free? I don't want to spoil it No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't spoil it.

Can't spoil it. All right. Just know that the lawyer that is representing him is the star of the show. Yeah, he's pretty good. And he came with a program? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Reached out.

Oh, that's the HBO version. They made a show out of it on it. That's a scripted one. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that's like the TV show. They're talking about the documentary. On Netflix, I believe. Yeah, Netflix.

But yeah, this thing did two different shows. That's when you know. That's what you know. That's what you know. It's good story. And these owls, these things. Watch your fucking. If you're a.

They take animals too. It's not a who, it's a what? What's that? They take animals too. They always say, hey, make sure your cats are locked up. Don't let them out back or they're going to just disappear from an owl. Because they'll come down. See you later.

They do a little owl talking. Get their heads? Turn all the way. Yeah. Where they blink is weird. You learn a lot about owls. 300 degrees, I believe. Almost all the way.

Like these PTZs. Yeah. Get caught right at the end. All right. Pretty good show today. Staircase is worth it. It is. I'm on it.

Yeah. I'm watching today, too. What is the lawyer's name? David? David Rudolph. There it is. David Rudolph. What year was that?

That had to have been, man, was that before COVID? That might have been before. Yeah, I think it was before COVID. It might have been. It was great accident. They were everywhere. Cameras were everywhere in all the meetings he was having in the jail.

Like, cameras were allowed everywhere. Hey, David Rudolph. Pretty good juice. We remembered your name since 2019. That's pretty good a little. He didn't. You wait to watch it. You'll be like, yeah, this guy is the guy. He's the guy.

If I ever have anything, this is the guy. I would like to call this guy. Okay. He's smooth talker, this guy. He's got ideas. But also a lot of personality, a lot of charisma, a lot of, you know, a lot of that stuff. It's what you need in the store. Hey, Kee, you want to try to throw a football into a hoop or what?

Sure. You know, Penn State doesn't have a head coach yet. Oh. But maybe if you make this football into a hoop, they'll hire a coach. and 25 random people will win $500. Boom. AQ, all you got to do is do better than you've done over the last few weeks,

and you just got to put this ball, Baby Duke, 2.0, into that hoop right over there. Now, there's steel net, you know, obviously chain link net out there. So if it goes through, it's going to sound cool. But maybe you should try to put a little bit of arc on this one. You've been kind of attacking it. Todd, do you have anything say to AQ before he attempts the impossible?

I do. Stop messing around. AQ. Put this thing in the bucket and then, you know, celebrate as Billy Napier, his name the new head coach. of Penn State. That's possible. I mean, who knows right now with the coaching options that are out there? Debutt has some words of encouragement for you, Ake. Just step into a letter rip. You saw Jacoby Bressett do it. Just do exactly what Jacoby did. AJ Hawks said, you know what, AQ? Maybe you do look like Jacoby percent. Maybe you are able to make it. And his final note to you before you attempt the impossible AQ is this.

Yeah, AQ, I think you remember, isn't it AQ who does very well when he gets a snap and he kind of takes a drop? Like, not when you're static. You need to be moving because you're an athlete. We know that we used to drop step dunk on old buddy whatever his name was back in high he didn't dunk on Nate Hartton he did he did I heard he did don't know big boned and big big belly and big big that too he's like Chuck oh here we go 25 people five hundred dollars all he's got to do is based give a cadence you yes oh no cadence silent count short drop back pocket's going to collapse for sure misses the back word bonus ball bonus ball bonus oh

All's gone. Floors lava. There's more balls here. Don't die, don't die. You don't have the runners on. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley, a Super Bowl champion player coach for their Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals as well, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Philadelphia Eagles.

We'll attempt the impossible as Boston Connor gives him a message of positivity. Remember when you would make your shots with the basketball? You would just pick the ball up and throw it, but every time you lined it up, it would be the worst fucking shot imaginable. Just, yeah, just lean back and fucking spin that. Now that you're thinking about, not thinking about it, why don't we think about making that shot? 25 people, $500 and maybe a hiring at Penn State

for the good of the people. Fade away. Wanted a little sauce on it. It was close. It was good distance. Hey, you're in Sosa City. That's right. Awesome sauce.

What's that, DeBott? You think he's trying to miss? I don't know. That wasn't even close. I mean, you're giving away a lot of money on the weekends. okay see this is what we need integrity in the games I'm trying we've already got a little controversy brewing with you ball

okay maybe people mailing it in when they have certain teammates so they don't have the team with the person yeah that's already who's doing that no I'm not saying as we all saw it we don't like it this can't become what it is guy throwing it through the backboard it's like you're not trying to make it you know we know you're not you got lift your teammate up you got to lift him up

and then accidentally not jumping to oh missed it Can't have it. Not in your ball. We'll sort that out. Just like Dana White said, we're going to the FBI. Yep. Do you see his answer, his response, AJ?

Oh, yeah. He was trying to set the, hey, enough with this shit. This cannot become what we are. Because he understands, as a man who is running the sports league, anytime integrity is questioned to sports league, you potentially lose sports league, okay, completely. Like, if people don't think it's fair competition, people don't aren't interested let alone the gambling side of it okay that's a whole other animal

but whenever fans and people on teams everything it's just like you you potentially lose everything and as soon as dana hears about this and this becomes a big storyline i appreciate him saying that they were told there were some abnormal betting patterns on this one particular fight by i c360 which is their independent consultant for gambling tracking bets that he employs for the ufc to track to make sure there isn't any fuckery basically is what he said so then he calls and says says to the camp, like, hey, we're hearing about this. What's going on? Fighter says, nope, we're not doing anything that. I can't wait to win. Then first round loss, rear naked choke with the way it looks. Dana says he calls the FBI immediately and says,

hey, we're told that this was potentially a thing. We reach out. We talk to him. They said absolutely not. We told him we heard about it. This happens. We think you should look into it. And then he said he talked to cash. And then an entire fleet of FBI people were in his office chatting about it. So Dana White is coming out very loudly about like, hey, this fucking is not happening here. And if you want to roll the dice, there's a chance like actual jail time, hard time, this is going to ruin your life. So I think he's trying to play defense here for future situations as well as settle this particular one because he knows what's at stake here, AJ. Well, yeah, you can't let it linger. The longer you don't address her, you don't say

much about it, like people just run with it, I think. And so the fact that he's trying to jump and get ahead of it, yeah, he knows. Like, that's one of the only things I feel like that can bring huge franchise like that down, or at least take huge losses if people truly really think this isn't legit like they're not they're all manipulating everything yeah it's not a good vibe that could potentially be in there so he's trying to cut it off now people say well you like to game

all the time it's different okay and I know everybody like throws that in there together it's like got to keep that separated it has to be for the good of sport and I know it's easily accessible now for the common person but the people that are performing the act just can't do it for good of everything literally can't happen

literally can't happen can't happen feels like there's chance it happens, which I'm starting to worry about U-ball, too. You got guys throwing games. Kidding? Yeah, well, the rat fuck insider. I'm sure they'll leak it out.

Who's doing what? Is it the insider we hate or they're rats? He'll probably have the information wrong, too. What do you mean? Aren't they kind of one or the same? Well, I definitely think that... Shultz and Schiff, he ain't the same, bro. Well, I think there's definitely levels to insiderness,

and the U-ball insider seemingly has a monopoly on the entire thing. true he's really the only insider but is he the problem or the person that's given him the information that that's kind of the question it's dog chase tail here you know dog chase morgan wall is the problem still oh yeah still still the problem tour tickets available i think coming up very soon coming to indianapolis two nights they were they went on the two nights friday night went on sale today my wife got in the queue she was number 230 000 in the queue to get tickets for friday night at morgan wall i don't think we're going to make it yeah sounds like you're going to have to hope and a prayer that entire thing there,

but hope and a prayer is not what the insider is operating off of a new ball. He's going off his facts, I do believe. Tony, you said that he's getting facts wrong. What do you mean by that? I can't remember what the report was. I think it was that Bone left me for AQ to join the Fat Soles team or whatever. I was never partners with Bone. I was partners with AQ.

So actually, AQ was the backstabber in this situation. I don't know why you threw fat so in it doesn't say that in the tweet at all I didn't come up with a team name you guys Look at the graphic That looks pretty official Yeah and AQ's in there AQ you're part of the problem bro There I am story

That's pretty good technique right there you see that Yeah behind the line too looks like it's on the line No it's behind It's got those shoes So you guys play together I found a different partner A better partner Yeah exactly what so you were frustrated

Okay so inside I got right again All right you come out here tone Why don't you come out here tone I didn't like the thought of people trying to lose so they didn't have to team up with somebody again. I'll tell you what, yesterday Foxy and I had another day of Foxy and I, U-Ball, and there was a team of Debutt and Tone that were together.

I'll tell you what, that sparked a little something in us knowing that we could maybe lose the title of these boys. 100%. We had to lock in and ended up being the shortest game in U-Ball history, which goes to both teams because a lot of shots were made there. That's right. Three and a half minutes. Man, four, six in the top of the first,

Foxy and I. You guys are on fire. You guys on fire. Foxy fought through some adversity, too. Yeah, he pulled his calf. Dude, yeah, what the hell was that? Foxy pulled his calf. My cap started cramping up in the middle of the game.

Yeah, he almost had an Achilles here in U-Ball. That's a real deal. The insider would have got numbers if he would have been reporting that. Bruce, they're kind of questioning everything about what you do for U-Ball, brother. I don't like it at all. It's all right. You know, we'll just keep our nose to the ground looking for any stories. There was also a close call.

I've been waiting to update the people on where, there was a, I guess, a vicious kick volley you would describe that almost decapitated Ty Schmidt. Yeah, and we will certainly have to get that story out today. You can follow along at Bruce Brown, the official insider for U.Ball. And there was one of the funniest situations that I've ever been a part of. And I'll tell you what, people are getting after it, and UBall trying to win some games.

And all we're trying to do is celebrate a hell out of sports. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. AQ, anything to say here before we get out of here? full steam ahead in Arizona boys we know our guy for the next couple of weeks at least let's go

okay that's Arizona Cardinals superfan and color commentator Ake Schipley talking about Jacoby Brissette being the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals who are currently two and seven three and six something like that three and six let's go three and six but have it all in front of them just like everybody does let's never forget that everything's always in front of us

because it has to be team on me team on three one two three three goodbye