The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1446 - TNF Preview, Kirk Herbstreit, SMU Head Coach Rhett Lashlee, Ohio State Head Coach Ryan Day, Texas A&M Head Coach Mike Elko, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Raiders and Broncos, and much more around the league as we gear up for the start of week 10. Joining the progrum to chat about tonight’s game, some stories around the league he’s been keeping an eye on, and to preview some of the college football weekend’s biggest matchups is color commentator for the NFL on Prime, and the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit. Later, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys feel the beat around the country as they welcome some college football Head Coaches whose programs are in different spots after the first CFP rankings were released including SMU Head Coach Rhett Lashlee, Ohio State Head Coach Ryan Day, Texas A&M Head Coach Mike Elko, and Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this NFL week 10 kickoff, Thursday, November 6, 2025, this show begins now. Football! It is magical, and week 10 of the NFL season kicks off this evening on Amazon Prime. As we go, AFC West battle between the Broncos hosting the Raiders. Now, the Broncos are eight and a half point favorites on ESPN bet, which is the current odds that we have here. I think that'll be going until

about December 1st or so if we're to get into an exact. And then you can also find that at nine and a half across some other. Now, Gino Smith in this Las Vegas Raiders team with Pete Carroll at the helm,

obviously we had very high hopes. We had very high expectations because in Pete Carroll's words and in our eyes from watching Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll wins. That's literally what he does. Max Crosby obviously outrageous.

Brock Barr's is a superhuman for this team. So coming into the year, we thought maybe Tom Brady's in a building, Chip Kelly's the offense coordinator. This might be a brand new Raiders. This might be the vibes that they need in Las Vegas

as they launch, hopefully, back into super relevancy, especially in an AFC West that has the Kansas City Chiefs in it. Max Crosby's special talent so special that everybody hopes that he leaves the Raiders so they can play in big-time games. That's kind of the state of the Las Vegas Raiders in the past 10 years, and then also this year, all of a sudden, with how the outcomes have gone. And on the other side, the Broncos, this team's going to win a Super Bowl. that's what everybody was saying coming into the year.

This team's defense, outrageous. This team's defense can lock down anybody. Sean Peyton, with another year with Bo Nix, we can assume that the offense is only going to get better. Remember, Sean Peyton decided whenever he took the Denver Broncos job, could have took any job. That's right. Sean Payton could have taken any job.

Now, they had a trade for him, obviously, because the way it ended with the Saints where it just happened on it, like Tuesday. I'm done, actually. I'm out of here. I'm going to go do some Netflix stuff with Kevin James, and then we're going to come back into coach. I'm going to do Fox TV stuff.

But when he wanted to get back into coaching, I mean, it was the Sean Peyton, tour, wherever the hell he wanted to go, because everybody just kind of has the same thought about Sean Payton. This guy's a damn good ball coach. It's got sweet shoes. It's got great moxie, and a guy knows how to win football games. So he could have coached anywhere. And he decides to go to the Denver Broncos, which happened to have the richest owner in the sport and the Walmart family at the helm. And you think to yourself, well, why did Sean Payton do that? Well, did he do it because he can pay coaches more money than everybody else? Yes, because

there's no salary cap on the coaching market. So being able to keep the defense coordinator advance around. It's just been something that's been special for them. And they've been smothering other teams. But also, if he wanted to move on from an $80 million dead cap with Russell Wilson, the Walton family said, yeah, you can do that if that's what you want to do. He does that. He handpicks Bo Nix to be his quarterback. He loved everything he saw out of Bo Nix. Whenever he met with Bo Nix, he thought to himself, this has got to be the number one guy in the entire draft, got out of the car, told everybody around him, that's the guy that we want. Then when he drafts him to Denver. A lot of people say, a little bit of a reach for Bo Nix here. He gets on our draft

spectacular and says, couldn't have drafted this guy faster? This is exactly who we want. So you just assume coming into this season with another year and an offseason with Bo Nix and Sean Payton together, that's only going to get better. And the defense is going to continue to be their thing. And they have. This team's for real. Eight and a half point favorites on a Thursday night game in the division is obviously a big, big, big swing. But this Denver Broncos team is certainly capable of blowing out this Raiders team. And maybe Crosby just says, no. And maybe he plays every position on defense, which he could potentially

pull off. You start looking at the rankings here, you know, and the Broncos had a little ebbs and flows have they gotten to this point this particular season. So they have obviously a high rank in total defense. Their past defense good. Their rush defense good. Offensively can obviously still move a little bit there in the middle of the pack,

but they can run the rock, which you obviously always expect the Denver Broncos to be able to do just in the history of the Broncos. You always think of somebody running it well. And then on the other side, you got a lot of average and not good. So that is kind of what we're looking at this evening. Kirk Herb Street will be joining us in about 16 minutes or so to let us know on, you know, what are you hearing from the inside?

As he's calling the game tonight alongside Al Michaels and Kaylee Hartung on that Amazon prime lineup that we know is going to be spectacular. And everybody's figured out how to do it. Remember, there's a little thing going on right now, obviously. Sure, there's. Still. Kind of still going on, maybe. Every day we wake up, we think to ourselves.

Let me open my phone and find out some good news. ESBM Bet's done. Okay. That ain't what a... I thought... I thought what I'm looking for. That ain't what a... That ain't what a...

Draft Kings. Oh, okay. That was good. Hey. Congrats of them. Getting that done. Okay, what about... Nope, still going there.

You know, a couple years ago, it was I got to get Amazon Prime to so I can watch a football game. Now we're at the point where this is just normal. This is standard operating procedure for Thursday night during football season. And tonight should be a good one, even though it's an eight and a half,

nine and a half point spread. And we're pumped at football, week 10, another round of important. impactful ball is about to take place. And we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. In the second hour, we're going to have a full college football

coaches feel the beat situation. We're going to go directly to these sources. We got coaches that are in multiple different situations and scenarios in the college football season joining us. Matt Rule joins us every single week. They get their third loss this past weekend at USC. Essentially ends their hunt for a national champion.

He joins us. Rhett Lashley at SMU. He just signs a two-year extension. Obviously, they have three losses, but They only have one loss in the ACC. They just get a huge win over Miami and overtime this past weekend. They can still go on and win the ACC and get into the college football playoff yet again. You know, that would be back-to-back years for Rett Lashley Squad down there in Dallas. Then we have Mike Elko join us.

Yeah. Okay, and this came together late, so we're so incredibly thankful that he'll be there. Texas A&M is undefeated. This is his second year there. Okay, obviously he was highly, highly, sought after whenever he took Duke back to who they were. Whenever he was going to go and explore another job, Texas A&M, they move on from Jimbo Fisher, pay him like $70 million to get him out of there. And everybody says, hey, Texas A&M's got a lot of money down there.

They got a lot of money. Well, how do you know they got a lot of money? Well, they paid the last coach $70 million to leave. So if they have that amount of money to get a guy out of there, let's assume they have enough money to field a squad. And Elko, if you're going to give him the resources and you're going to be able to let his football brain and his assistant coaches kind of take over a program and run that thing, we all assumed it was going to work just from the very little that we knew about him.

It has. They're undefeated. They're number three in the country right now. And when you think about where they were two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, first, where they are now, it's special because that university, spectacular. I know everybody, like, kind of says, well, they're a cult. They're a cult because they actually do, like, dress like it, and they do dances like it, and they have practice it for it and all that stuff. And there's videos of them that come out, hey, we're doing this. It's like everywhere's a cult. That is their style of cult down there. they are a great fan base down there at Texas A&M. I mean, it is spectacular, spectacular football town. We got a lot of cowboy boots. We got a lot of people walking far.

And we got beers being drank, and we got good times being had. And we got a thousand United States flag. Yeah. Kind of around that state. So sweet. I mean, it is a great place. And Elko's got that place buzzing. And then we'll also be joined by Ryan Day.

Okay. Yeah, the Ohio State head coach. Number one team in the country? Yeah, reigning national champions, his number one team in a country have made everything look rather easy. Okay, have made everything look rather easy and rather dominant. And their quarterback, Julianne's saying, nobody's talking about him. He's the odds-on favorite for the Heisman right now.

And, oh, yeah, you just got a fill in for Will Howard, who just transferred in here and won a national championship. And Julian Sanders says, there's no problems. Cornel Tate's on team? Yeah, it's Jeremiah Smith on team. Yeah, how's the offensive line going to be great. Yeah, we're going to be able to run the ball, of course. Okay, and our defense is going to be the best in the country,

maybe the best in the history of college football. So that's the Ohio State team nobody's talking about. They're the number one team in the country. have been for the entire season. And, yeah, they, they're a problem. So we've got a lot of different coaches and a lot of different situations. We got week 10 of the NFL season kicking off. Hell yeah.

And then last night, I met some baseball people. Yeah. Talks to the tables here at Boston or at Ty Schmidt. I met Mr. Logan Webb. Logan Webb. Okay. Dog. Yeah.

Okay. Logan Webb, pitcher for the Giants. Okay, handsome fellow. He's, he's briefed out. Grandpa Rossi. Yeah. David Ross, Chicago Cubs, also coach. He was there last night.

We all went down to watch Ernest play at the Riemann Auditorium. And Riemann is the original home of the Grand Ole Opry. Elvis Presley's performed there. Harry Houdini has performed there. Basically, everybody that's ever gone through Nashville, has performed there. Ernest, who is from Nashville, actually named his son, Ryman. Because how much he loves the place? So since Ernest was put on a show there, I think all of us that were friends with them

that could make it down there were like, hey, we'd like to go show you some love. Put on a great show. But the baseball boys, great Chadman. with that. Saw Hardy last night. Okay. Hardy performed last night. There we go.

There's a kid named Cheese I met. I'll tell you what. Cheese is flying at an altitude that, you know, we can all kind of on. Yeah, cheese has great, great vibes. Yeah, Nashville was spectacular last night. It was nice in and out and D. Bone got a chance to get zipper burn, you know, like 14, 50. Good for him. We're sitting on Ernest Bus, okay, before the show, and Ernest just has a guitar, and all these people are so talented.

Another guy walks on, I have no idea who this guy is. looks super cool, looks super cool. Obviously, DeBone sees him, he sees eyes just light up. DeBone, he's the biggest country music fan of all the time. Some up-and-coming guy, very talented guy. I would learn in a matter of moments. Wow, this guy has so much talent. And DeBone, though, as soon as he walks on the bus, DeBone's eye.

Uncomfortable. Across from me, trying to tell me who the hell the person is. I don't know who it is. Then they just sit down. You got one guitar right to the right of DeBone. Somebody, it's incredible. Somebody's standing right in front of him. And then they just starts singing.

and it's like, hey, what do we want to sing tonight? They're, like, going through it. And Deba is sitting there like literally a kid in a candy store. So last night was really cool. And thank you to Ernest and everybody for taking care of Deba. Yeah. You know, they treat him like he was one of their own. And I think he had a blast.

We all did. But the baseball boys, world baseball classics coming up. Yeah, it is. Coach Ross is coaching Team USA right there. He's a part of the stuff. Hey, we're trying to win that thing. Yeah. And this is good for, I don't want to talk about baseball right now

because it's week time of the NFL season. He's about to kick off, okay? But just chatting with him about the World Baseball Classic and who we have playing. That's coming up, I think. Okay, baseball's up, I think. And Shohei and all them are playing, I think, for Japan, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, they'll try to win it again. They're defending champs.

I want to let you know, on that bus last night, and Ty, you're our baseball fan and Savant here. On that bus last night with Mr. Ross, Grandpa Rossi, Coach Ross, whatever the hell you guys call him in baseball, manager Ross, whatever the fuck it is. Skip. Okay. Grandpa Rossi is what a lot of people call him. Well, that's his Instagram here. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Pretty sick. He's pretty, I don't know. Strapping. He might have a long time. Yeah, he might have grandpa strength. He gave me a full hitting lesson, you know, on the bus there. Probably 35, 40 minutes of solid baseball. Okay.

There you go. No, I'm pretty locked in right now on what baseball is. And I got an entire hitting lesson on the bus as other conversations were happening. It was just me and David Ross by herself. And there's a bat right there. I just picked that thing. So this is what I'm trying to do. He's giving me full lessons on it.

Baseball's been good to us. I would like say to Grandpa Rossi and Logan, thank you for being so cool to me last night because I certainly was like a little kid in there, so I'm like, I'm trying to... Squash the bug, right? Yeah, Ben, I'm trying to turn it. Rossi sends text this morning, goes,

I don't know why I was telling you what to do. I have a career average of 222. He sounded like an expert last night. Sports are amazing. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Ton is here. So shout out to Nashville last night. Shout out to everybody. But shout out to Amazon Prime

tonight, Thursday night football, kicking off another week of NFL football. Now, two weeks ago, the biggest shite slate in the history of the NFL since 1970, sorry, since the merger. This past weekend, electricity all the way throughout. Tonight, eight and a half point spread to nine and a half point spread. What are the numbers saying? Who's betting where?

And are we going to have another blowout on prime time? I thought we were in a good, I thought the NFL was saying, we up. Is there a chance a blowout is coming tonight, tone? So the last two Thursdays, where blowouts? The Chargers blew out the Minnesota Vikings, and then the Ravens blew out the Miami Dolphins down in Miami last week. One week from today, I believe it was seven or seven and a half around there was a spread. Last week, this week we are getting eight and a half to nine and a half with the Broncos. 66% of the money is on the Broncos, which is not a surprise for tonight.

They have been the much better team. The Raiders, even though they looked good at the last week, they took the Jags to overtime. They could not get it done. But overall, the Broncos have been the better team. So I'm not surprised that 66% of the money is on the boys. Okay, so everybody likes their uniforms, too. It looks super cool. And we know that the Orange Crush, I believe, is their fan base.

Tonight should be scenes, I believe, is how they describe this, especially because it is a divisional matchup. Let's go to some stats at Hembo Center over now. We love whenever, like, there's this in detail of percentages on stuff, but Gino Smith, 7.8% sack rate, okay, the NFL average is 6.6%. 29.2% pressure to sack rate, NFL averages 21% above on both those. How about the Broncos defense? How do they do on both those things? Well, 11.3% sack rate, which is the highest since 2000 cents. Wow. That's a long, that's 25 years.

Hey, they're getting to the quarterback at a higher percentage of anybody in a half, a quarter of a century. 30.1% pressure to sack rate high since 2022 Eagles. So whenever you're talking about what the Broncos defense is very good at, the Raiders offense is horrendous at. And that normally decides the game. Yeah. Getting to the quarterback is normally what decides the game. the Broncos are built to do that.

And the Raiders, we're finding out throughout this season, are just not equipped to be able to stop that. Are we worried about this Raiders team? Like, just, like, Pete Carroll, right? We just assume he's going to be able to get it going over there. I think I do naturally because I respect Pete Carroll. Like, that is kind of how I feel. Like, I respect Pete Carroll.

But then you watch some of these games. Like, I don't think Gino's a bad quarterback, but boy, there's great throws he's making that are going the other way. Yeah. These things are getting picked off. And it's like, he's still spinning it. It feels like they have enough potential. pieces, but they just lose.

It feels like the Raiders just kind of, it feels like the Raiders just kind of lose. Like, I don't want to put that into the universe because it's kind of sad. It's kind of like a jet situation, but it feels like especially with what the chiefs have done, chargers have done, Broncos have done. It's like it's going to be difficult to win over there

in Las Vegas, I think, especially with just kind of the stink that kind of radiates from over there. Yeah, I mean, because even when, you know, they had the car air and that ended, it wasn't really like, they didn't tear everything down and restart. They kind of, you know, mix and match things to kind of it together. But look at that division. Like, you have to be good. You know, like they,

they stay on no chance unless they get a franchise quarterback. Like you said, Gino's not awful, but he's been throwing a lot of picks this year. And you know that Bo Nix is young. You know, Justin Herbert is young. And then you have Mahomes is obviously going to play for quite a bit longer too. So you can't just keep kind of like hoping, hey, maybe one of these years we'll hit the jackpot and we'll win the division. We'll get in the dance. Like, they're almost just spinning their wheels until they actually find who they're going to go with for the next, you know, 10 years or so. And Brock Bowers is just certified

absolute stud. And Max's on the other side. Yeah, he's going to get his. And then they drafted Genti, who, when he has space, is unbelievable. But the problem is they drafted a running back before they had an offensive line, which is an issue. You saw the offensive line, pass blocking stats. The run blocking stats are not

good either. So, like, they have some pieces, but we've talked about all the time. Like, besides Max, in the trenches on both sides, it's not a good situation. Yeah, I mean, I just think Pete Carroll sucks. be honest. What? That's a Patriots fan. Yeah, no doubt, but he coached

in New England sucked and then, you know, obviously the worst call in the history of the Super Bowl, you could argue is throwing that ball, but again, that's probably not even his decision. I think he had a sign off of all the way. Yeah, he probably did. Which is ridiculous, but, you know, he probably didn't want Marshawn Lynch to win MVP.

You could ask Marshall Lynch about that. It sounds like he thinks the same thing. But when it just comes to the Raiders in general, I mean, you sign your head coach first of the new Brady ownership regime to a three-year deal. So Pete Carroll, he's not there for the long haul and then you would only really hope

not that they are a playoff team or anything but that they're competitive and they haven't been so it's kind of a question of like what the hell is this team which is kind of Pete Carroll's decision I think people would assume just because Seattle, Gino with what's going on in Seattle not a great look

but and then if you just think about the team as a whole like they're basically on the brink of a completely new rebuilt it's the truth they don't have and it's crazy they've been kind of teetering on it years to a tie's point where it's like he said mix a match it's like there's always like a carryover like one piece carryover that one passes to the next and obviously we're talking about this just strictly because it hasn't worked any one of those situations could have worked it is not and now

it's like hard not to say this seems to be a pattern now will the raiders ever turn around we shall see and is this is the broncos division is this the broncos division you know b a thought so yeah bruce aryons is a big fan of this denver broncos team he's a big fan i think of sean So I think he has a lot of respect for what he's able to do. But Bo Nix, I mean, this dude's got the moxie. I love the cut of the Bo Nix jib. We'll be talking to Kirk Herb Street here in about three minutes or so. Good news, Sauce Gardner has cleared concussion broke.

Yeah, this sauce is going to be running wild in Germany. You know, they head over to Bjorn Werner's hometown, our home country, at least. And I think there's going to be a lot of Colts fans over there. I think it's going to be great for the Indianapolis Colts. And the fact that also we get a chance to watch Shoss's first action with the Indianapolis Colts at 9.30 in the morning or whatever it's going to be is a great way to start our NFL Sunday slate, I think. Yeah, without that, I mean, was it the, did the Colts and the Patriots play in Germany the last time the Colts? I mean, like, think of where the Colts were then to where they are now. Like, I think you might be right.

Like, hey, if you're looking at taking a vacation and you're a Colts fan, like this would be a pretty awesome situation to go to. And then obviously on the other side, like Atlanta, no one really knows what they, are either, so this is a good get-back spot for the Colts. Yeah, why not Colts? You know, and Sauce, I can get your mitts on a few. He looks clean and those colors, too. Yeah, he does. He looks comfortable, looks happy.

And also, given his first two jerseys, he is giving away our two boys that were crying. Yeah, that's right. Bryce and Trey. Those old Jets fans, yeah. And shout to the Colts making that happen. But shout to Sauce Gardner and, hey, got good news for you guys, your Colts fans now. Yep, Sauce, give me two jerseys. Now, these look a little bit large.

Okay, I don't know if these are going to picture. but we'll certainly get your right size. And, Sauce, I want to let you know. Thank you for representing the Colts this quickly. Hey, welcome to the team. You know, obviously everybody's talking about the number of two first rounders and everything like that and A.D. Mitchell. It's like, Sauce, welcome to the team. If we win, nobody cares about anything.

And Sauce is going to help everybody in the building do that, is what everybody in the building has to say. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the man who kicks off the NFL slate every single Thursday night on Amazon. He's also the voice of college football as he's been on college game day for 30 years, I think. Holy hell. I think it has been 30 years. 95. Wow. And then he's obviously the voice of the biggest game. Saturday Night in College. He's voiced

college football as well. Golly. Former President of Ohio. And he needs you to go Keep Your Networks.com. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Gertrude. How we doing, boys? I hated that you posted that. I know you felt obligated. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know, I know, I know. Somebody told you, and you know, somebody told me, and I thought, hey, maybe this will help let people watch the shows. I didn't really think about... I know, I know what you're. You're trying to be a good team player, and you love ball just literally more than that. I thought, hey, maybe this will help people be able to watch games today.

That's all I thought. But do you, why don't you just guide me on that shit from... You know, please ask me, because, like, there is ramifications all these things, you know, there is... Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anything about it. I thought it was cool that you put the whole show on your, on your ex thing. That's, I didn't know you could do that.

Hey, neither did we. And the fact that that happened, I think that's setting up for, okay, let's not even dive in there. There's a lot going on still behind the scenes. We would like the deal to get done. All of us would like the deal to get done. Okay, can you do that this Saturday? Are you going to do that again for three hours?

I don't know. We'll see if the deal. Hey, we'll see, we'll see where, you know, like for the good of ball, we all would like this deal to get done, right? I agree. I agree. We would all like this deal to get done. so let's go ahead and get that done for the good of ball

and I assume, you know, politics people will say for the good of the world too. We're just saying for the good old ball, which is good for the world. That's all we care about. That is what we would like. That's all we know. Yeah, we need it.

But let's talk about tonight, shall we? Let's talk about ball. On Prime, 815 kickoff. Raiders at Broncos. We just kind of went through how, coming into the season, the Raiders had such a fresh appeal to it, you know? Tom Brady's making decisions.

Chip Kelly, fresh off a national championship, is back at offensive coordinator for an NFL team. he's been a head coach before, now he's just coordinated. He brings Pete Carroll in. Pete Carroll even said it, hey, I win games. You still got Max Crosby. Brock Bowers is special. Gino Smith becomes quarterback. It was like, hold on.

This might be a brand new Raiders team. Branden hasn't felt that way, right? Similar outcomes, although you've got different pieces there. And then on the other side, this Broncos team, Super Bowl darlings coming into the season for everybody, because how much everybody loves Sean Payton, and I think how much everybody respects the defense

that the Denver Broncos have. So they assume up and to the right Super Bowl going into the year. Broncos have lived up though I think what everybody's saying. Raiders have not. You've talked to both parties now. What do you think are kind of the takeaways from both sides as we had into this Thursday night match up? I mean, you're all over it. I think the Raiders

were, like you said, with Pete going there, Chip Kelly going there, Gino coming over to call the quarterback. And then you had enough pieces with, you know, if you think about with Brock Bowers, you could argue, I mean, he's technically a tight end. They really use him when they flex him out more as a receiver.

he's a tough matchup. If you play a man, I don't know what you're going to put on it. You know, corner, safety, no matter who it is, you're in a tough spot. Look at that catch right there. He had three touchdowns last week. And I think a big part of that is he got hurt in week one, tried to kind of gut it out next couple weeks, and they finally took him off. He hadn't played in three weeks.

Throw the buy-in, that's four weeks, until he came back against Jacksonville, where he just lit it up. so I think internally the hope with the Raiders with Pete and Chip is you guys have no idea how big of a piece to the puzzle that guy is for kind of build our offense around his skill set and give defenses a lot to kind of figure out where's the guy going to be aligned and that really helps Genti and the offensive line and all the other pieces so obviously they moved Jacoby Myers probably you could argue their best quote unquote receiver but I think this is one of those Thursday night games

You're sitting there in the open, like, how's this game going to be competitive? And it just ends up in a fourth quarter of one possession game. And by the way, Denver, they're in a one possession game every single week. I think they're five and two in one possession games, which is really a credit to them and kind of their culture. I mean, I've watched Denver play this year, but when you're calling a game, you kind of peel it back a little bit further. I don't know if Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper, their two edge guys, get the love, they deserve. I think they're probably playing at this point in the season, the best tandem of any NFL defensive line and pass rush. And then on the inside, Zach Allen, nobody talks

about. I mean, J.J. Watt, obviously, when you have him on, you can talk to him about Zach Allen. I mean, he kind of got under JJ's wing in Phoenix in Arizona and learned a lot about, okay, you're gifted, but here's some tricks to the trade. And he's taking that throughout his career and now he's in Denver and you throw those guys on the edge with him in the middle it's a lot for any any offense to be able to deal with and bans joseph right now is dialing it up probably as well as any defensive coordinator so this defense is real and by the way this is all with pat sur tan probably the top corner in the league on the iR for the next few weeks so they're doing it without him and yet they're still playing at that elite level so it'll it'll be a good one

I'm hoping that when you call the game, you want a close game. I'm hoping that Brock Bowers and Ashton Genty get it going tonight and keep this one close. It's been a couple good Thursdays for you for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been really good, you know, big spreads going in, big spreads coming out Thursday. We had a great start. Our first five or six were insane, you know, going down to the wire. Last two, not so much.

So we're hoping, but this defense. from Denver, and hopefully they stay healthy. They're getting Drake Greenlaw back. You know, he's obviously a thumper and a great player, so if they can get him along with Alex Singleton at those two linebacker spots. Dude, with everything

else they have around him, it's as good as there is, I think, right now in the NFL. Hembo sent over some stats about just not good protection of Geno Smith, either. Sacrate, percentage of sacrate, and then what the Broncos are. Look at this stat down at the bottom. 11.3% sack rate the Broncos defense.

Highest since the 2000 Saints. I assume you have numbers on that as well, but they get to the quarterback really good. And Gino, yeah, he gets got to very good too by other team. So it feels like the Denver Broncos strength is a Raiders weakness. And as we know, this could be quite a swing of the game, you know. Oh, you do your first down, wreck. Then it's like second and 15.

It's like, all right, now you're punting the ball. And what's going on the other side? Well, maybe Bow Nix will figure it out. And then all of a sudden, you're in a battle. And then all of a sudden, Kirk Herbstre, now Michaels are filling time in the fourth quarter. We hope that's not happening. We hope that's not happening.

Now, on that note, Will Lutz. Okay, Will Lutz. I think he's got three game winners this year, I think, for Sean Payton. 14 of 16 under Sean Payton, him, and those clutch kicks, Will Lutz. He has, I don't think his pants touch his knees either. So let's have a little respect.

I have a little respect for this guy All right This guy And I will say Dude come on You didn't Yeah You didn't kick

Pull a shot of Pat McAfee up In his prime Kickin fuel goals for For the Colts Or punting for the Colts I want to see your uni And I want to see Adam's uni

And how he How he looked There's no way Those were shorts Dude They were not just covered Up above the knee Those were short shorts

Yeah He came out afterwards and said It got, it was a little torn more than I thought in He said he didn't know how short they were Until he saw it and he was like, wow, those are And two, I would say as somebody that did not like anything Touching My Knee, you know, I think that's most kickers We don't want anything like kind of on sit on top of our knee

Because of the amount of movement I think those were a little high But you got to remember, yeah, yeah, so I go right about Look at you, that's perfect. That is perfect. Yeah, we're old school though, you know, me and you We're old school guys, you know, we're old school guys You got a little something going on with the laces. I mean, I mean, you're having some fun there, right?

Yeah, I got some sauce. I got some sauce for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That's a good look. The Sandell, I think, is his name. He's great kicker. Just get out of Oklahoma.

Great. Wow. I mean, you got to have, you got to be good to have the amount of confidence that he has a roll out there with those shorts where they're at there. And then you see the mean mugging on the back end of the kicks, too. And if you could roll that, like, after he makes the kicks, he's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That just happened. see what watch him after he makes his 55 yards just a photo this is just a photo just a photo just a photo and uh i would say those are technically those are shorts those are tight those are bike shorts that's agreed those are a little short and he did come out afterwards and say this one's on me yeah sure those ones were a little high a little tight but he's an incredible kicker and he's a hammer I mean he is for a little guy he's well I don't remember how were they couple from 55 and three over 50 I mean he was crushing 52 15 56, 55, I think, and all needed.

He's all needed. Every one of them. Yeah, 1002,000 people, 102,000, you know, and everyone is a necessity. Yeah, that is big time. Keep the dream alive with that leg. Keep the dream alive. They go to Tuscaloosa in a couple weeks, but right now their dreams still alive. That's a brutal schedule. Okay, so for me in this conversation, and you obviously do a lot of college, and now for the past

four years, been the voice of kicking off NFL schedules, which we are so incredibly appreciative of. It's hard to find good kickers because, like, think about how big that moment is for that guy. Some kickers get, like, broken in college mentally because of the big moments. And then he got some guys that aren't in any games that matter at all. So it's like, how do you know when and who's going to show up? And that's why you go back to Vandy and you think Tyler Huang, this kid needs to get signed somewhere. You know, he stepped a kid to kid kicked it in Vandy. Yeah, he was an absolute monster.

Jonah out there in Utah. he snuck that one in. Stanford, Steve, didn't want to give it to... What was the final analysis? I didn't hear this week. Did you guys get a good replay? From my perspective, I thought it came back in, I thought. You and me were standing in the same area. So I think we saw it go right, like the first one, but then it kind of hooked back in over the upright.

And, yeah, I thought it was good. I do appreciate Stanford, Steve, saying, nope. I actually ripped up the check. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I don't know. Jonah started celebrating, too. That was a good play by Joe. That's no good.

Look at Stevie. No. No. Look at that one's face, right in that guy's face. He doesn't rate in Jonah's face. Yeah, right, bud. That ain't good. Right in his face.

The whole place is yelling. It was quite a scene. Those have become quite wild out there, Herbie. Oh, they're wild. Oh, it's so much fun. You just never, we tried to, you know, affect them with the blockers. I was trying to get those blockers on the turf, but you were being so kind.

No, no, no, no. Let's push them back. Well, those kids getting blasted in the face, bro. Did you know it was going to be dudes holding that? I had no idea. I thought maybe we had rollers. Is that what you thought? They're like turning away from it.

I mean, they're going to get blasted in the face. It was like, oh, we need to back this up a little bit here. Who were those lads? Who were those lads? I genuinely have no idea. I have no clue who they were. But I'll tell you what. They had courage.

Those dudes just sat, right? Steve just grabbed them out of the crowd. I said, hey, boys. Hey, boys, need you go block this kick. It's going to be no good one way or the other. Either you block it, or I'm going to call it no good regardless. But, yeah, they walked up there. The one kid had his face just right next to it, just like sitting right here.

I'm like, yo, bro, like, I was all worried for that. I was all worried for that. But I appreciate you looking out for me. But next time we do that, I'm going to bring them in a little bit tighter if you don't find. That's, that's a little bit too easy where we had them. I didn't think they really affected it much. Yeah, they can't get blasted in the face, though. These kids look like they were.

16 years old. I mean, that's... Sign a waiver. Yeah, get him. It's a sign of waiver. Might help them. All right. I think it'd be good for ratings if they took one off to

4. Oh, he would love that. He's not lying. That's football. Right in the gut. Could you imagine me this, guys? Yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Kids buging because it got hit so hard. Maybe this week. Tune in. Texas. I love it. I'd tell you too many, too many people are making it this year.

I mean, holy cow. It's like every week they make it. I know. we got to start it was what how much have you given out so far we don't even talk about it's too much every time it goes through it's just like oh my is it too is it two million it's kind of i mean it's probably getting up near

has to be has to be up there has two million yeah now they're preparing everybody's practicing the Texas Tech kids practicing this week which I respect that I've got cowboys mascot obviously named Larry yeah yeah he's there he's ready his name's Larry is that was

his name is Lubbick Larry is kind of what I was done I know, Lover, Clare. Is that a Lover, Clare? Rader Red. Rader Red. Rader Red. Rader Red. I don't look like that was Eddie Red or Red.

You can come kick for sure. Yeah, we certainly put you on the spot there, Rader Red. We'd love to see you. I think they're going to be, I think this is going to be pretty outrageous. I think he's going to be quite a scene this weekend, brother. Oh, my gosh. They started camping out on Sunday night. I know.

They love their ball down there. What a game. They love their ball. Friday night lights. That's what it is. Isn't Joey the perfect guy for that to coach there, right? He's high school football coach? Yeah.

High school coach, who's now killing it in college. We need Briggins to show up down there. Him? Friday nights. They got a lot of money, too, don't they? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Very, very active former player who's a billionaire that's,

he's making sure that the women's basketball team, softball, football, you name it. They're all in. Is he oil? Is he an oil guy? That's all I ever think. I think he's oil. Yeah, I think he's oil.

an oil guy. So you think about that oil thing about a young buck, a young buck like you. Like, he's a young guy. Who found a drill, and he'd go ahead and pop that thing down. He made his fortune in the oil and gas. Oh, my God, he found one good rig out there. He sold his company for $4 billion. Oh, my God.

Good Lord, this man did it? This is the same glory hole that Jerry is currently hunting once again. Cody Campbell's name. Cody Campbell. Hey, Cody. Way to go, man. Boy, Cody. Cody, next thing you know, David Bailey left Stanford and he's down in Lovick, getting after it. Isn't that incredible?

And then all of a sudden there's a, what, a million dollar pitcher? Yeah. On the softball team. Everybody wants her. And then she literally leads the team all the way to the World Series or whatever. Yeah, she is good for Cody Campbell. I like that. And good for him in that moment where he first heard that rig cough like any mammal wood as oil started to flow.

and then all of a sudden it just was a pure, unfiltered. Glorious. Glorious road to $4 billion. It's pipe for now. It's scratch-off. It's what they're doing. It is a scratch-off is literally what they're doing. That's what Jerry's currently trying to do with his natural gas. He heard there's $100 billion.

Why don't you go work on a rig this weekend? What do you think? I got meetings, brother. What do you? Scratchoffs, I am. I don't go to gas stations anymore, okay? Because when I go... Remember, we went to Montana.

You were out there on the horses. and you're becoming a cowboy. Why don't you work on the rig? I don't know if I'm going to work. I'm going to try to figure out how to get one. No, but just like send the other guy. There we go. Maybe we do send the other guy out to another.

Or an adult covered oil. Yeah. Maybe he makes his picks from the rig. That's not a bad idea. Standing on top of that thing. The other rig. Stanford Steve is on, yeah, he's out there on the utter oil rig. And he makes his picks from there.

You said work on the rig. I don't think I'm going to be doing that. I will certainly get. No, you and Cody, you and Cody go out to. to see where he hit it big. I think that would be an awesome thing. Apparently, he had a cup of coffee on the Indianapolis Colt. What year?

Oh, boy. Is this no way this is Cody Campbell? You know? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so. 2008 season? I think you've got an offensive defense alignment, I think.

All right, let's move along. Holy hell. Am I in the oil scratch-off business all of a sudden? It sounds like I'm potentially getting. I got my big country. 2005 season. You weren't there. No, yeah, he's older than me. Okay, he's a little bit older than me. But I would, Cody, I'd like to learn anything that you're willing to.

I think he'd need to go go check out where he hit it big. If I could become the Jerry Jones, feeling the floor. I think it's down here. You know, because they have like all these rockologists or whatever they're saying. It should be in this area here. It should be here. They do a tech. Yeah, all of that stuff.

It should be here. But then some of them, nothing. Some of them, nothing. People chasing that. You know, I used to watch. What was that show they went down to the Gold Rush? Do you guys watch the Gold Rush show where they were trying to find gold? Never watched it, but I'm familiar with it.

I'd like to watch that. I'll watch that, Gold Rush. Oh, man, they're spending a lot of time out there and not really pulling much back. I'll tell you, but there is always the thought that this sweet nectar of gold is just going to come flowing out of this shit. And then you got $100 million dollars. Every day they wake up thinking $100 million. And then normally it's We lost $45,000 a day

And then they go back out there So this is the show, yeah And I'll tell you what I don't know if this is the original cast Is this the original cat? They were in the mountains a lot Adam Driver Yeah there was another gold hunt one

Where they went down to like a jungle Like down in Africa That's the one I saw They were getting in some shit They almost did you watch The Jungle Cruise? Landman I saw Jerry Jones and Landman I saw one scene he was unbelievable

He was really good Yeah he didn't do that Yeah he should act a little bit All right, let's talk football. Suck football. Ty has a question for you, Kirk. Yeah, Herbie, I know coming into this season, you were a big J.J. McCarthy guy thinking that he was going to make the Vikings

better than, you know, when they had Sam Darnold. And obviously, it's been a little bit up and down. His stats weren't great last week, but he, you know, led the Vikings to a big win over the lines. With him being back now and allegedly 100% healthy, do you think the Vikings are about to go on a run with J.J. McCarthy here? I'm still kind of bullish on what I think he's going to do and I think it has as much to do with the system

and I mean the guy hasn't played a lot of football you think about the injuries really this year hadn't been able to practice a whole lot to be able to get the timing and the rhythm down so to me what you're seeing right now is just glimpses and eventually through more weeks and more reps and more opportunities I think you're going to start to see the timing get better and better the game slowing down for him

but you can see how the team responds to him. I think, Ty, that's the thing that I know you being an Iowa fan when he was playing in Ann Arbor, it wasn't just him executing. It was how, like, you know, see how he scores a touchdown, how you can just see whether it's a lineman, receivers, everybody's naturally drawn to him. And I think it's because he has a very selfless approach, and I think that goes over big in the locker room

when you play that position. So I think this, I have a lot of respect for KOC, the system that he makes for the quarterback, very quarterback friendly, and you look at the pieces they have around them, Yeah, yeah, I do. I think he'll get better every single week. And I think you're just seeing the beginning

of what I think is going to be a great marriage with he and KOC in that offense. Why is he doing it after a game in the locker room? He said he calls him nine. You know, that's character nine. Not this part here. Whenever he's about to get the game ball, there's a video that I saw of him.

He's kind of like bobbing back and forth. I think his tongues going out there. And it's like, this guy has like the competitive stamina. not I think he wants to at least like his entire focuses on being a guy I think like that is kind of his mission since high school it feels like of j j McCartley no I think that's true remember he at COVID he left his high school team I think he went down to IMG to play his last year because of COVID concerns and just wanted to play ball just wanted to compete we saw him early as if you remember it was his freshman year he was kind of playing a little bit of spot duty here and there

and then remember the sophomore year they gave starting like an opportunity for both quarterbacks to win the job. He ends up winning the job and really never looked back as far as being Michigan starting quarterback. I don't know. I mean, you watch all these quarterbacks, you always try to figure out what's the thing that makes NFL GMs and head coaches and scouting departments miss so consistently on first round picks. This JJ McCarthy class, you go back and look at top to bottom now that he's starting to play. Every single one of these guys is playing in that class. I mean, by the time it's all said and done, if they continue to play well, well, it's going to be one of the better classes we've ever seen.

But they miss a lot, right? So I think, to me, repetitions like Brock Purdy had at Iowa State, huge, and then ability to process through those reps. Can you see it? Can you get the ball out? Do you have the ability to keep a play alive with your legs? And I think he does all those things. And like I said, you go back to the COC part of this, Aaron Jones, what he can do.

I mean, there's just, J.J.'s obviously, they've got a ton of, of weapons, and I do. I think each week, they're going to become a bigger story as we get into December and January. B.A. said every team in the NFC North is going to make the playoffs. It did. B.A. said every team in the NFC. North is going to make the playoffs.

And if you start looking at schedules, it's like, it is possible, I guess. Probably going to happen. Be the first time ever. That'd be the first time ever. Wow. That's awesome. They're very good up there. You know, obviously, it just used to be the Green Bay Packers and then, and for a long time. And Packers fans

really enjoyed that, didn't they? It was a great run, pretty much my entire childhood going up to, you know, when I was 25, 26 years old. And just no respect really for anybody else. Certainly not. When the lions were getting good, you know, and that was all happening, all Ty would say is, okay. And then the Chicago Bears, since this show has started and me chatting with Ty Schmidt, a Green Bay Packers owner, there's been three different times that the Bears are supposed to be good. And every single time, Ty goes, okay, it's the Chicago Bears.

Let's all relax. but now it's like wait a minute yeah Chicago Bears might have figured it out Lions definitely have it figured out and the Vikings have the reigning coach of the year and Kevin O'Connell with a young quarterback that might be it's like all of a sudden this is a powerhouse of a conference or division

for a long time too this isn't just like for a year or two this seemingly next 10 years no yeah I mean I guess golf is the oldest but still he's it's you know he's got a lot of good years left in him like all the quarterbacks in that division are super young too that herbie sorry man look at that when you guys had the standings up Look at that NFC at the halfway point.

Like, you could make a case for a lot of teams. Again, a lot of it's going to be based on health. But look at that race that we have this year in the NFC. And the quarterbacks that you have, I mean, that is wide open this year. Yeah, there's the top seven for Super Wild Card Weekend as we currently sit. And then obviously there's lurking behind us. And then there'll be some division champions that kind of throw off the ranking of it all.

And we'll certainly have some gripes going into Wild Card weekend. but then we'll have six fantastic games that'll launch us into a playoff run. There it is right around the corner kind of. Yeah, it is. We got a lot of season left. Yeah, we've got a lot of season left. And I think it's great that in the NFL,

we have rules if you tie, you know, there's different tiebreakers. And in college football, it's just subjective analysis. And that started this Tuesday night, and it just gets messy. Yeah, but they put their hats. Did you see them put their hats?

They took went to work. I saw that. They took their hats off. Did they sing their song this year, or is that not happening? Starting with 12 count down the one. We don't know yet. But I just want to know, like, do they take the hat off? Because the hat is kind of, stumping the creativity.

It clips. They put their hard hats on when they go under the room. Oh, okay. That's cool. And they whistle while they work. So they take off their casual leisure cap. And they put on their thinking hard hat. Yeah.

Okay. They're a college game day. How much would you guys hate to be in that room? Because no matter what you do, you're wrong. Oh, you mean like, I would hate to be in that room. Okay, I didn't know why. You're talking about having one of those positions. If all of us had to make, wouldn't that suck?

I mean, no matter what you do your role. No way. Be awesome. Ty would want to do it. Connor would want to do it because they'll just sit in the fire. They're cool with it. Say, so what's how I feel. It would suck, though.

You'd never win. Hey, hey, hey, shh. Hey. Oregon loses Saturday. Don't get too loud with it. You think that? Oh, it's getting real loud. I know.

Why are you saying it? Why did you say that so loud like that? This is very early putting that out into the universe. Ty really was wishing you didn't do that on a Thursday, but... I've been feeling like this since the Monday after. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. We all love Dan Lanning.

We all love the ducks and their potential, but there's just something about... certain teams at Iowa, when you go to November, the only blessing they have is, it's not a night game, right? No, 3.30. If it were a night game, it would be a given. It'd be a loss. But at 3.30, it's going to get dark in the second half. And I'm telling you, Iowa's going to be just typical Iowa. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be like

15 to 12. You're going to wonder, how the hell did we get to 15 to 12? But that's part of the fun with Iowa. We don't know how we got to 15 to 12, but it's going to be 50. Was there a safety? What happened? How did we get here? Two-point conversion return for. Yeah, actually, they bobbled the snap. The kicker picked it up, ran it in for a two-point conversion as they're trying to go an extra point.

Something wacky, and then they're going to be lined up to kick a game-winning field goal, and it's 15-13. It's 15-13. There's like 40 seconds to go. Their crowd's going crazy. Here we go, lining up 45-yard or right. hash, boom, nail it. Game over 16, 15. Iowa wins. Iowa, all of a sudden is still very much into college football playoff conversation. Right in the mix. And the Big Ten champions. Especially they went back in. Oh my God. The Hawkins with Grannaski. This D3 Heisman

winner, national champion before. No longer winning with punning and defense. No longer winning with just a quarterback that can't throw, but he can run really, really, really, really good. He can run really, really, really good. Look at the fans. That's the difference in the game. Kirk's dogs going crazy out there. Now, Ty, he just took us to a fantasy land there on Saturday. I don't know if putting that out in the environment.

Dan Lanning heard that right there. I apologize. Dan Lanning is running that to the team tomorrow morning, if I had to guess. Before they travel out to Iowa, Dan's saying, hey, this is what the voice of college football is how he was in. I'm telling you, just be, at the very least, they're either going to escape or they're going to lose. That's what's going to happen.

At Penn State game, I had eyes on that game against Oregon, Penn State. Think about how much has changed since then. Yeah. That was an overtime. That was an overtime. That was an overtime. That was an overtime. That's what, four weeks ago, if you start doing a math year, mid-season, it's, that was a crazy night.

Oregon, though, anytime Dan Lanning's coaching him, we have the utmost respect, obviously. We love Dan. Might have the number one quarterback draft. I mean, there is a lot of good, obviously, with Dan Lanning. But Iowa was just a little bit different. it over there. I'll tell you what, weather's not going to be nice. It's going to be windy. It's going to be rainy. I have been feeling like

this for a little bit. I really have stuff. So does it scare you now that Kirk has put this out into these nights guys? Because if they weren't taking Iowa seriously before this. Yeah, he's saying, don't say it. You just said it. Everybody's going to hear it. Everybody's going to hear it. We can't dump it. And it's not coming from the team.

You know, like Kirk's dogs will be ready. He's certainly not giving any bolts and board material, you know. So we'll see. Oh, no. So CBS Sports just tweeted this out too Mark Grinowski is a winner Well that's just an undisputable fact He just tweeted the CBS Sports

Just tweeted this out So you got Herbie going Shsh Grinowski's about to take down Oregon Then he got CBS Sports saying Yeah actually here's another thing Herbie said it put it out Lay here's another thing

55 and 8 this guy You want to see a winner When he's playing football he wins And Dan Lennie You hear what CBS sports is saying now about this guy you hear what Kirk Herbstree's saying. So much to draw from in such an inspirational motivation-type game. Now all of a sudden it's just getting flooded over to Oregon.

It's okay. What is Kirk going to be able to pull from? What is Kirk going to be able to pull from now? He doesn't need any gimmicks. He's not PJ Fleck. He doesn't need some bullshit. Roe the boat, mumbo, jumbo. There was no reason for that.

There was no reason for that. Why are you taking shots in Minnesota? They always does. Well, they love to chant, I hate Iowa and stuff like that. And I don't think about them. But I thought that was pretty apprehend. Pope because Kirk's just going to do what he has done every single game for the entire

Kirk Farrant's there. Hey, we're just going to be tough, physical, play smart, don't get penalized. And we'll see, you know, we'll put the chips in the middle, we'll see how falls. It's open for a good river. They just, they try to lure you out out into the fourth quarter, out of the deep end. They just try to, it's really

ugly, really ugly. It's going to be hard to stay awake. See if they can. That's what they do. That's Iowa. football right there. No explosives, no offense, no throwing, just hard-nosed owl football in November at home, waving that the children's awesome.

That's right. They've been averaging 30 plus for the last couple weeks here, so, you know, we'll see. All right, we'll see. Bye week, money change. Let's go back to the NFL, talk about a team that might be back. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Herbert, you had them last week.

The Ravens down in Miami. Now the record is still what the record is, but they are the favorites to win the AFC North. What did you get vibes-wise from the Ravens before that game? And how do you feel about their outlook the rest of the season? I probably like a lot of other people, the fact that they're finally healthy, not just Lamar, but all the pieces, Ricard being back, as you guys know, is such a big part of what they do offensively. I mean, they were favored before they won that game to come back and win their division. I know you're a big Steelers guy.

They got a big win last week, and it's really a two-team race in that division. But you look at their schedule, what they have in front of them. If they stay healthy, I love the Steelers. I hope they get there. But I would bet on the Ravens right now. You don't believe in your Bengals? You don't believe in your Bengals, Harry? Good team.

No, I don't at all. I'm a – my teams take a rubber hose out on me and just beat me into the ground. That's what they like to do. You know, that's what they do. Yeah, but Joe Flacco, dude, Joe Flacko had such a cool. Such a cool under two-minute drive. Yeah. He's going to score touchdown to win that one.

That was such a good drive. As long as there's more than 15 seconds, then you know what's going to happen. Caleb, you knew what was going to happen? Here's my brain works. Touchdown, great. How much time's left? Nope, that's game. They lost.

No way! With Caleb, did you know that about Caleb? That's a real thing because, like, obviously, Colston Lovellam makes an incredible play in the Cincinnati Bengals, and here's some Caleb Williams' magic that's obviously taking place in the NFL that was also happening in college, which is why he was the outright number one guy. Right here in my family room, I said, hit the cross here, hit the dig right here,

get in the field goal range. That's what I'm saying to Jake and tie. Boom. This was a bonus. That was a bonus that the missed tackles. I just thought they tackle him, bring out the game-winning field goal, but the bonus there with love. saying, these guys don't tackle, so just keep running.

What's your Reds group text called? Pain. Yeah, pain. Shout to Cincinnati. Still doing it. Hey, you know what, though? We all knew going into the year, though, that that was going to be a winning brand of footballs. You know, we all knew that that was how you win football games going into the season.

Now, there was a chance that you guys were going to change it all. Cincinnati was going to change it all. Hey, we'll pay two number ones because they both are incredibly talented. They both are exactly who. You paid them to be. We're going to pay a quarterback is going to be great. And then, you know, defensively, they'll figure it out. We'll get a stop somewhere.

We'll get a stop somewhere in there. And we'll just be able to beat these teams. And then whenever you think about Bengals' defense ranking, 632nd among 640 defenses in Spain in 20 years. Is that bad? That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, uh, so there has been worse. I thought Sweet Lou, I thought Sweet Lou is the problem.

We're, he now over at Indy. He came to the Colts. Yeah, we got, yeah, we just got sauce. Two. We just got sauce, Moody, and Tremaine Pratt. You guys know him. He was a good player for you guys. He's over here. We got the Forrest Bukner, Grover Stewart. Layahu Latsu. He's got three picks, I think, two picks. Yeah, Lou Anurumos just out there calling the shots. But yeah. It turns out he's still, he's a D.C. in the league still. Okay. Doing well. Doing well. Yes, he is. This is what he said about Soss Gardner and love the addition of sauce. It gives us another Pro Bowl corner. The guy's been in a lockdown player his whole career and gives us the chance to match him. Ward, Moody, up to different receivers, two super smart football players. I can't say enough about Saus Gardner being on our team.

We just elevate our whole defense. Lou Anirubo is living like King over here. Paizan King, Lou Aniromo, getting all the pieces. They're spending money on defense. They're spending draft picks on defense. They spent two first. Honestly, how's that feel? How's that feel to see your squad? Because you were, last year, the last few years, it hadn't been great with you

and the Colts. You're back. You're back, and you guys are all together in harmony, happy and join this ball club is it what's it feel like is it fun this week I love the Colts yeah I love the Colts the team you know I love the Colts team this particular roster doing a great job right now

about the owner buddy what's going on the owner's taking notes you're talking about Carly you're saying yeah Carly's in G okay that that is how Carly's been on a sideline for years now okay as I think it became more I guess closer to the time

in which they potentially take over a team they obviously all start investing a lot more time in building learning about things carly since day one of getting into building full time has been having full meetings and sessions on trying to learn the ins and outs of football that she wasn't able to learn from uh she didn't play i think she's lawyer by trade so she obviously been around the colts her entire life her dad had her around she obviously loves the Colts and everything like that but she didn't get to play so she doesn't know the ins and outs so she thinks and I think this was our original thought is I'm going to have to hire people that are going to have to do this. And I don't know enough about this particular world. So she has gone head first in.

You're talking, trying to learn as much as possible. And this is like years now. This is like five, six, seven years straight of trying to like learn everything she possibly can. And talking about Louana Rumo, I talked to, I got a chance to talk to one of the big three here, Carly. And I'm like, uh, what are you doing? You know, what are you doing? Everybody wants to know what you're doing. She's basically just charting what the play calls are, what the outcome is, and then she's checking out trends at what times do you do what, why do you do what? And she said Lou Anirumo's play calls vastly different than what the previous defensive play calls were. He's got tags and ads and things like that. So as soon as she sees

that, you know, she's like, oh, I've never, what is this? And then she, she's able to talk to Lou. And then when she's talking to Lou, it's like, well, this is adding this to this. So it's like she is literally trying to learn football as fast and as great as possible. And I think like obviously you can mock her because she does, she does not give a shit about what people think about how she dresses to her. I own the team. Okay, I would dress however. She was dressed like Michael.

She had this leather jacket on, leather pants on the sick, probably $10,000 boots on on the sideline with this entire thing. Like, gee, you're talking about like an actual, she's got a lot of her dad in her too when it comes to that. Like, hey, I am who I am. But like, it's all coming from like a good spot. And I think she knows, as do Kalin and Casey, because they've been in the building and been talking to these coaches so much, it's like, hey, what do we need to go? Like, hey, we want to win a Super Bowl here. This would be really cool for our dad.

This would be really cool for everything. It's like, how do we go? It's like, you get us another big time elite defense. We trust you. Let's go. And they're in. So I think it's all because of the information that she's gathered that she's able to sign off on this type of decision, if that makes sense. Yeah, man.

And you can see. It's cool to see that she's taking the time and not just this year. But kind of behind the scenes, maybe we just didn't see the cameras weren't on her. And we didn't realize that she's putting that kind of commitment in. But I would put them up as the biggest surprise this year in the entire NFL. You go back to August, what people thought of them and the potential. I mean, it's easy to look at Daniel Jones now. But when Daniel Jones left Minnesota, there wouldn't a whole lot of people thinking that he's going to be the guy.

It thought maybe it'd be a competition with Anthony Richardson. But he's been a huge story. You're the man. Nice of gentlemen. That's Kirk Group for you. Yeah, Herbie. See you tonight, Herbie. See you with Texas, brother.

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or Nissan.C. for details. Conditions apply. Football. It's awesome. And tonight on Prime, we have an AFC West Clash between the Raiders and the Broncos that we will all be watching.

It's an eight and a half point spread on ESPN bet, December 1st, I believe, and then everywhere else you can potentially get it at nine and a half as well. It's more than a one-score. game looking at it and boy if it's another blowout the NFL might start dancing with a little

bit of a danger with the fact that these primetime games have not been living up to any height or this could become an absolutely sensational battle of bow nix and max crosbie and gino smith and a broncos defense that has been heralded as maybe one of the greatest of all time al michaels will be on the call so it'll feel big unless it gets to a point where it's a blowout and Al Michaels will say, what the hell will we do? And we will love them for that. And Herbie will be doing the same exact thing. What we do know is the pre-show will be spectacular.

The post-show will run very late. And a game will be happening in between those. Will it be a good one? We hope. Can it be asked? Certainly. Now, we will talk about it for a little bit longer here. And then we have a full boots on the ground.

Feel the beat of college football coaches that we're about to start here in about eight minutes or so. We got Rhett Lashley joining us from SMU. Ryan Day joining us from Ohio State. Mike Elko joining us from Texas A&M and then Rule joining us from Nebraska. We're about to hit it from all different angles. We're lucky to do it. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmitt.

One half of the Hammer, Cowboys AP Tone is here and joining us live from Anatic in Ohio. Is it Matt who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Rotter Cup winner. Ladies and AJ, Hawke. Hey, Hawker. How you doing, Hawker? Good. I'm looking forward to the old

Yeah, what are you, we're, what, feeling the beat with these coaches and everything? I couldn't take it for a second. Yeah, me neither. It took me a little bit to get there. But yeah, we've got boots on the ground. We're feeling the beat, brother. And, you know, you don't really know how things are going until you talk to the people that are there. And we're talking to four coaches that are in four different spots, obviously.

Ohio State reigning national champion. How's Ryan Day going to feel about that? Rhett Lashley has three losses, but only one ACC loss can still win the ACC and get in the college football playoff for two straight years. Matt Rule, obviously, he's going to be looking at a different outcome this year. as we build for next year in what we have with a quarterback that just broke his fibula

who's out for the season and then, you know, Elko died in Texas A&M. What a genius this man is. Everybody calls him a football genius. And then going into the season, it felt like nobody just expected Texas A&M to be great.

Beginning of the season, nobody expected Texas A&M to be great. And all of a sudden it's like, I thought we trusted Elko and I thought we said they have all the money down there. So if they have all the money and we trust Elko,

one thing leads to another, Texas A&M is going to be very good. good? Ah, yeah, undefeated in the SEC. Marcel Reed's quarterback that started playing last year has only gone up into the right. They're a special town, so I'm excited to talk to everybody here, AJ. Yeah, I think everybody's going to be great, but Elko as well, he's like one of a football genius on the defensive side. We don't see that a whole lot. We know they give a lot of respect to him, but usually it's those offensive guys that we want to crown as these like wonder kids that can figure everything out.

But it's credit to Elko, man. I love that guy. Well, just wait for the question that Tone's going to ask Elko about his defense because college football playoff chairman came out and said, yeah, the reason why they're three is because their defense ass compared to Ohio State and Indiana. So now on that note, though, they were talking about stats, and they didn't say ass. They just said it was a separator between one and two in Ohio State

who has a historic defense. Indiana's defense, very good. A lot of continuity from last year's team and they've added pieces. They've only gotten better. But they said that the separator in why Texas A&M was third as opposed to one or two is because the defense wasn't as good. now that is a stats driven thought because if you do eye test last few weeks they figured it out early in the season though their defense was in elko's world and i guess in any college football world not good third down red zone not good which was abnormal for an elko squad yeah they were giving up 20 points plus i think it was utsa and then i want to say nevada or something like that and then they went to notre dame and gave up 40 so those first three weeks were not impressive but since then i believe they are the number one third down defense in the cc and i in red zone. That's what really turned it around

for them. So they've been, oh, and sacks. Sacks, they are like four or five in the country in Sacks, so they're buzzing there as well. So the stats tell the story of the entire season, but if you look like the last few weeks, it's like, actually, defense, they're back. That's Elko's bread and butter, so it's like

we assumed it would have come back. Can't wait to talk to all of them. In Ohio States, Ryan Day, thank you for making that happen, by the way. We appreciate you. Utilizing your former presidency there and getting Ryan Day on the program. Nobody talks about him, nobody talks about it. I guess I don't watch Big Noon. I don't get to watch it as much and I don't watch as many like Fox stuff, you know, because I just don't see it literally in my world that I'm in. I assume they're talking about Ohio State a lot over there on a regular basis because we don't really, nationally it's just like Ohio State's number one team. Okay. They'll be here. Next conversation. It's crazy that Ryan Dave potentially can have that as a motivator for his boys. It's almost a good. I mean, yeah, it's a good thing because it can always be a motivator for you guys, think that they, you know, people don't value what we're doing.

all this. But also, like, if you're in the Ohio State's position, you don't really want them to talk about you. If they're talking about you, it's because they're freaked out because you lost or you barely beat a team that you should have won by 30. So I think they're doing what they need to do. This was like the Boston Celtics a few years back. They were just so good. Nobody talked about them. Then they win. And everybody says, was it that impressive? It's like, wow, don't give this team any of their flowers, which is what I'm talking about here. Like Ryan Day's team here deserves flowers. They are pounding people. I mean, Matt Patricia's defense is maybe the best in the history of college football whenever it's all

saying. That is they're on track to potentially break records to be the greatest of all time. And then Julian Sane's odds-on-heisman favorite. So the number one team in the country, their odds-on-heisman favorite is quarterback, but not really chatted about so they can still act like they're the underdogs, which is crazy to think about and crazy how good that team is fresh off of the national championship where they lost a lot of pieces. Well, I think you made the comparison either Monday or last week, but it's just like Georgia. I mean, Georgia, the second year after Stetson Bennett won the first one and he went to win the second one and they ended up going on to win it but you didn't talk

about them all year and it's almost a good oman it's like okay we're not going to talk about ohio state all year this is what's going to happen they're going to run the table and then they're going to run the table in the college football playoff and then it's going to be hey now we're going to talk about oh yeah but then as soon as the offseason starts they'll say Ryan day can't do it again you know it is a it is a juggernaut over there for Ryan day it's like Ryan day feels the heat can't win it can't win it can't win it can't win it then he wins it nobody talks about okay nothing to say no nothing is and now we are nothing.

Now we got nothing to say. So I can't wait to tell Ryan Day that we noticed that that's happening. And he'll have to say, you know, we don't worry about that. We worry about what's going on, blah, blah, blah, blah. But deep inside, he'll be like,

thank you for pointing out that I got killed for everything, you know, or winning everything and nobody's saying a damn word about it. So it'd be nice if there was a little bit of six, seven here. Yeah, there won't be. It would be nice if there'll be a little bit of that.

Okay, let's talk about tonight's game before we dive back into college football. Raiders, Broncos, AJ, what are your thoughts on how this game goes or what these team's stories are in your eyes? Obviously, I've broken it down a couple of times. We've chatted about it, but Week 10 is kicking off in the AFC West

and both these teams going into the season we thought were going to be good. I think one of them we thought was going to be great. That team has remained as such in the Broncos. Yeah, I think the Broncos will continue to roll tonight. I think the Raiders, we always talk about Max. I love Max Crosby and how he plays. I think he's going to have an impact,

but I think the Broncos, especially at home at night, Thursday night, big time situation. Sean Payton wants to put on a show. I bet he wants to put up a lot of points tonight. So I think Bo Nix has a big night, and this, I think the Broncos defense obviously continues to do what they do. What does Vance Joseph's defense do that everybody

else maybe can't do, or why are they just so good? Is it because Vance has been there for so long, and there's so much continuity and everybody can understand? Is that a huge piece of it, or what are your thoughts? I think that's definitely a big part of it. I was with Vance Joseph, but I was in Cincinnati for one year. He was the D.B.'s coach, and I went to Vance

all the time to ask him like little nuances of the defense and really I love that dude I think he's really really good but I think he's not he's never going to overcomplicate things they all know their job they know what to do and they play well together like playing great defense is no secret there's no secret sauce it's 11 dudes running fast with proper leverage and being accountable to your teammates just all buy it's all buying that's why you know um you hear some I don't if there are scouts or coaches. I don't know who you throw under the bus here for this. So I'm just going to say football people say you know on defense aside, you're

looking at that wonder, like we don't want like I don't want a super smart independent thing. No. We don't want you. You know, we want guys to just, hey, when we're told, I need you to sell out through both these guys jaws right here. Yeah, you need

to eat up these two guys. That is your only job. You are nowhere near going to make the play. You are you have no chance of getting the tackle here. You're going to end up on your back, actually. This is going to be a painful rep. But if you do that, guess what's happening right behind you? Boom. We got a big time play. That is a lot of defensive football in the NFL. And if one person doesn't do that, it's like, up, touchdown. Okay, that is how we lose it all. So having everybody on the same page,

and if you can have super geniuses across the board, then you're now you're really cooking. But boy, if you just got a couple independent thinkers out there, if one's wrong, we're all wrong. I think it's kind of the old narrative out there. Yeah, it definitely helps to have. You don't have to have all super geniuses, but maybe two or two to three on a squad. That can kind of make sure everybody's lined up. Those guys that may not be the super genius,

but they may, hey, you see that guy, go kill him. You've got to have a guy to line him off. You need to have some of those super geniuses and make sure that guy's lined up in the right gap. Man, we had special teams, obviously you're looking for those guys. You know, you were looking at those. Oh, yeah, especially back in the day with the wedge. Guys that are just down for the cause, man

It's just like, hey, I understand what it is And yeah, I got it. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. They know that. Bingo, yeah, AQ was the king of the wedge. He was actually the wedge, so he just had people running into him, and that was something. But the people that were running into the wedges,

they were down for the team, man. They were down for the team. And they took great honor in it. And I'll tell you what, coach, if you didn't show it, like whatever happens in the next meeting, you were doing it a disservice. It's like, hey, you have a guy on your team here that is willing to just sacrifice his entire body

so that we can maybe get a guy to make a tackle on a kickoff. Like that is maybe something that's happened. Special brains, man, special people, special sports. That's why we love football so much. We've been so incredibly lucky to kind of get dropped into the college football world, baptized by its tradition and its pageantry. And now it's time to feel the bee. Not back.

We know-da-na-na-na-d-na-back-wha-da-da-na-back-we-la-da-na-back. Another, uh, another Sega, feel the beat, another time of AJ, just not feeling the beat. Pretty usual. The beat. I felt it. I felt it. I just showed it in different ways, but I definitely felt it. No, this is like when Wiz Khalifa asked you, put your hands up, and he refused to put your hands up.

Two feet away from him. You didn't put your damn hands up. So disrespectful. All we're asking for you do is feel the beat, you know. And normally we go to beat reporters. Sure. because beat reporters are there and they have a better grasp on things.

But now we're going to feel the beat. We're going to go boots on the ground with the actual coaches of these teams to see where they're at. Let's go directly to the source. Let's go to Dallas. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the SMU Mustangs,

Red Lashley. Hey, Coach. What's that a brand new car you just bought with that new extension? Geez, already going to the car dealership. Respect. Congratulations. Hey!

Hey! Hey, we got a new car. Coach, congrats on a new car, right? Hey, appreciate it. You earned that deal, obviously. down there. Last year you go to the playoffs, and I know how much you love SMU. I got a chance to meet you in your first round with SMU. Then you leave. Then you come back as the head coach. Special place feels like you've always felt that way. Why is that kind of coming true with this

particular run with you down there at SMU? Yeah, I mean, we just, in our time here, like you said, back all the way to 2018 off and on and then coming back as a head coach, Dallas is a great city. It's a great place to live. And it's all about timing. It just happened to, to get the opportunity to be the head coach here at the right time when, you know, the alignments here is great. Everybody is all in on us competing at the highest level and being the best we can be. And our program has been on the national stage before on that national championship level. It's just been a long time. And so with that, coupled with move to a powerful conference, all the things we need, that's what makes it fun.

And when you can recruit the area in Texas and Dallas, you're going to get some good players. So we just feel like we can keep building here. And that's what makes it a good fit for us. I feel like the donors and boosters are in a plenty and they're behind you, which is also a good thing in 2025. We don't act like that's not reality. But let's go back to this past weekend, special, special moment for you. Go ahead, Con, man.

Yeah, Coach, what did it mean to you to see that, you know, goalpost get ripped down? I mean, it was a massive overtime victory. It's not as if you haven't had huge wins before. But what was it like Saturday and just kind of taking that in after completing the upset against Miami? It was awesome. I mean, that's, it's part of the vision. What we're trying to build here, you know, I wish you could do it overnight, but it takes time. And, you know, two years ago we won a conference championship.

Last year we made the playoffs, and, you know, this year we're still in contention for an ACC championship. And we've gone and won at Clemson and now beat a team like Miami at home. And the most important part was a packed stadium. Ford Stadium was packed. It was loud start. It was loud to finish. Obviously, you saw the field just packed with fans and the goalposts coming down. It's what made college football special.

and it's been a long time since SMU we've been in these kind of environments and to be back in these environments be back in these games and to take advantage of these opportunities I think it's just what gives us a lot of confidence we can keep this momentum going You just mentioned about still being in it

AJ has a question for you Yeah coach I know you have three so-called winnable ACC games here ahead of you guys I guess what's the message for your team to try to finish out strong and get back to that championship game yeah we've proven this year we can beat anybody and we can lose to anybody

So, you know, we're going to have to play really well to win up in Boston this weekend. If we can find a way to do that. We stay in the hunt. You know, we're playing meaningful games in November for the third straight year, and that's a big deal. That's our goal every year. Then we'd get an off week, and then, I mean, we got a top 15 team in Louisville that would be coming into Ford Stadium.

And so just another great opportunity. We're in a different situation than we were last year, right? Last year it was like you're in control when to win out and go to the ACC championship game and maybe make the playoff as an at large as we did. you know we stubbed our toe on some games brand new team breaking some stuff in but now we're playing good football if we can win these three games there's a good chance we can get back to charlotte but we have to take care of what we can do and that's winning these three games so our focus is a little different right we're not having to worry about all these other distractions nobody's talking about us

we weren't ranked tuesday night but yet if we can win out we'll be nine and three and three in the league and we can possibly be in charlotte i love that you know all these things yeah tuesday night no Yeah, three lost. I don't think they dove a little bit deeper. Only one in conference. You know, we're still very much in it. And the fact that if you win your title, you're in the dance, anything can happen, right? Obviously, we feel that way.

Did you learn anything last year from the playoff, maybe? What type of team, what you need to be better at, anything like that? Yeah, I mean, I think that whole experience will help if we are fortunate enough to win enough to stay in contention down the end of November and early December. You know, the old saying act like you've been there before, you can't do it until you've been there before. And, you know, last year was the first time we'd been on that stage in 40 years. And so, and all of our kids, obviously. So we had a good team last year. We had a team that could have played much better against Penn State than we did.

Our defense played well, but we didn't. But I think that experience helped us this year when we go on the road to Clemson. And, you know, it's 80, 90,000 people, and they're flipping the lights on and off with five minutes to go in the game. And we got to go on 11 played touchdown drive to win the game. Or Saturday, when it gets to the fourth quarter tied, and then we get the ball down three with two minutes to go. go. We've got to go tied up, winning overtime. Like, just each chance we get to be in those moments and those stages, we get

better and better at it. So if and when we're able to get back to Charlotte or to the playoffs, I think we'll be better equipped for it. Calist, a little bit of a callous team, which is always good news. Tone has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach. Last year you guys were more of a running team with Breschard Smith, who's now on the Kansas City Chiefs.

Obviously, he was awesome. This year, more of a passing team. Is that because Kevin Jennings is in his second year, feel more comfortable that way, or is that just kind of how the team has built this season? Yeah, great question. I mean, we missed Breschard. I mean, that's almost 2,000 yards that went out the door. And he's playing pretty good for the Chiefs. So he was obviously a weapon force last year. We've got some younger players, and it just the running game hasn't been as consistent as we'd like it to be this year. We've had some

injuries, and at times, we just haven't executed like we need to. And yes, we have Kevin Jennings. We have Jordan Hudson, Ramello Brinson, some really good tied-in. So, you know, like Saturday was a good example, we could have ran the ball a little bit better, but we weren't going to win the game. And so we kind of had to let Kevin air it out. He threw it 44 times for 365 yards, and it worked. But for us to win these games down the stretch, we're going to have to have more balance. But yeah, I think Kevin being more experience definitely helps us. Are you guys still moving really slow on offense? Because I know that's where everybody says is how boring your team is. Here's what's crazy. So Saturday, time of possession, they had 37 minutes,

we had 22. That's a whole quarter. But when you dive into it, they ran 70, eight plays. We ran 70 plays. So our defense didn't really play that much more. That's how fast we were playing when we had the ball. And so, yeah, we like to play fast. We like a fast break offense and football. And we like to throw it deep a lot. So hopefully we can keep that going. Yeah, we like to, what we'd like to call electrify the people, whatever, they're watching our team. And it has certainly been that. Congrats on the new deal. You've earned it. And good luck to you and the boys the rest of the way. Thanks, Pat. Appreciate you guys, have me on. What's the chant?

Do you guys have a chant down there? I forget what it was. I forget. Do you guys have a chant? I forget. I mean, they mainly just chant SMU, over and over and over.

SMA. It sounds good when they're doing it. Yeah, yeah, certainly does. Now, Texas Tech and SMU very similar places, right? I've heard very, very similar. Very similar. Yeah, yeah.

Exactly. Dallas and Lubbock, really, really a lot. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Rett Lashley. Hey, yeah, I heard Dallas and Texas Tech very similar places. Just same state. Just got to be the same style of place.

Hey, that Dallas place where they're at? Pretty nice. A lot of cash. A lot of cash. All of the cash, I guess. You know? Yeah. And a lot of those people live through the death penalty.

Yeah. At the end of the old heads, you know? So there's like old heads that are very much like, let's go ahead and get the boys back. And they got great facilities down there. I mean, they are set up for success. And the way Rhett plays, it's a fun team to watch. So, you know, you get a chance gun. go on a run into place and you got booster and alumni

support behind you, you're going to be in what we'd like to call prime college football position. We talked to AQ Shipley yesterday, obviously. He's got no idea who Penn State's hired. No, we did her today. I don't know. Whoa, no, just because AQ doesn't know. Yeah, I suppose. Have you heard about... Who's AQ

want them? Different name every time we talk to him. Different name. He's learning about new guys. Have you heard about insert name here? I like him. Guys always talking out of his ass. Who, AQ? Right here. Literally. actually doing that on

TV for the entire thing, which is certainly something. Rat Lashley, though, has always been good to us. I appreciate the hell out of them. Speaking of people that have been good to us, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to feel the beat. It's enjoyable to watch you guys do that. Yeah, but you're supposed to feel the beat with us. More enjoyable if you're doing it.

I think I do feel it, but maybe I'll show it one of these times. You're right. Joining us now is a man who definitely had to feel the beats because he has a soul unlike A.J. Hawk. National champion head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes, Ryan Day. Yeah, cold. Do you feel the beat? I thought the beat.

I felt the beat, yes. You did? I feel like you didn't. feel the beat all of a sudden. Now I'm sorry to think you didn't feel the beat. You said you saw the beat. It was first with your eyes, not with the ears and the body. Your bones didn't just start doing this. Coach? I wasn't out of nowhere. No, not so much. All right, I'll do the dance. I'll do the beat feeling. Okay, you Ohio guys just kind of not feel beats and just kind of look at them. Let's go out. Let's talk about some beats, shall we, of the college football season.

You know, I do college game day on Saturdays. Pretty big part of the college football conversation, I'd say. We hear Monday through Friday talking sports, pretty big part of the sports conversation. like the only time we bring up your team is we just say how dominant they are wow Ohio State so dominant let's go to the next conversation your odds-on favorite obviously to win it all you have the highsman favorite at Julian saying nobody's talking about your team or your quarterback and you guys are the odds-on favorite to win everything how do you manage that with the team and do you like that you aren't really the topic of conversation all the time like maybe you used to be whenever it was negative and now there's really no positive on the

other side? Well, I think it does and can have an effect on your team. I don't think that there's any question about that. And I think to act like, you know, the fans, the players, the staff members, you know, the recruits, their families aren't watching and listening, that's being naive. So, you know, for us, I know it sounds cliche and this is the message sort of that I've been talking to our team about is that, you know, we just cannot get comfortable and we cannot get bored with just the same old thing over and over again. And that's having a great week of preparation and then putting it on the field on Saturday. And, and that's it. And what we're trying to chase, I mean, is we want to be the best in the country of what we do. And we know that

we have to play our best football here on the second half of the season. This is where all the good stuff happens right now. And, you know, I think it's, you know, people say ignore the noise when things aren't going well, it's the same thing when things are going well. And so, you know, criticism and blame, we're all the same. And so you have to stay disciplined and focused on what really matters. And that's the messaging. And it's going to take, you know, a bunch of guys in this building right here to stay focused weekend and week out. We've got to do that again on Saturday. You guys have been crushing teams. So much so that people are like, are any of these teams actually good? It's like, well, every Saturday we see some team

drop their standard just a little bit. You guys have not done that at all. And we had the chance to chat with you before they opener against Texas. And we talked about, hey, you might be in a middle of a dynasty right now. You might be kicking off a dynasty right now. We have no idea. And you said that you actually, I think, had to talk to some folks about some ideas and opinions on after you're winning it. How do you sustain and how do you stay at the top? How has that been for you as a coach? Like keeping the, hey, we can't get bored doing the same thing. Sounds like that is a message that you probably have been sending all season. Is there any other things that you're picking up on top of the world that you're at while you're trying to

stay there? Well, like you said, it's the same thing over and over again. And there's times where I think you have to adjust the message based on what your team is feeling or doing. But it's the same foundation, the same fundamentals that we start the season with. And that's not going to change. And so, you know, we really wanted to grow up this offseason. We knew we needed to mature and it was a group of guys that hadn't played a whole bunch of football, but they saw what happened the year before. And I think they recognized the fact that it's a grind. like what we're asking our guys to do is is a year-round deal and it's not just you know from september to to november i mean it's it's year-round and and the grind that we're in right now

like this thing's going all the way to the middle of january that's the goal and so we have to embrace that part of it so when guys walk in the building every day like they have to enjoy being around each other but we're on that field man it is a fight and so tuesday and wednesday practice around here like you got to bring it if you know we call them bloody tuesdays man if you're not bringing it on a tuesday i mean you're you're going to get it and so so that's where it goes and that's where you get better and i think for us to play confident on saturday like it doesn't matter who we're playing because we're competing against each other every day across across the line from each other and so you know if you could cover jeremiah smith or

you can get open against caled downs or you can block caden macdonald or you can get around luke montgomery like you should have confidence on saturday knowing that the opponent you're going against you know is you know you know maybe they're as good as those guys but there's not going to be too many guys better. So that's that's the confidence that we have to continue to build with as we go towards the end of the season. That's how they described Alabama. You know, practice was much harder than the games. The second team was trying to beat the first team because they know that they're next and they're trying to put on. So then the games you come around, it's like, is this team better than our second team that we're playing against? Probably not, to be honest. But on that note,

prepared for any moment. And if you suck, there's somebody ready for your spot. So it's a nice little motivation. I think they talked about it with the Miami teams way back in the day as well. every dynasty basically has that culture and that mentality that's sweet i didn't know you were doing bloody tuesdays that changes a lot of things in my mind in 2025 you're doing bloody tuesday know that i'm on your side okay if we are if we got a bloody tuesday call that means uh hey we're still trying to be more physical than you which is what you have to be to win in football forever and ever amen go ahead a j hawk yeah coach can you just talk a little bit about a couple of your linebackers Sonny Stiles, Arvel Reese.

We're watching these highlights. We're seeing these guys all over the place. I guess we know Sunny's played a lot in this scheme already in this system with a team. But with Arvel, did you know, I guess, the impact of these guys we're going to be able to have this year? Could you see, could you foresee it coming in training camp? I think one of the things that probably doesn't get talked about enough is when, you know, Matt came in, Matt Patricia came in, you know, he had to embrace the current staff and then the current players. And so our defensive staff did a great job, I think, of making the transition with, you know, some of the new stuff that Matt's brought to the table. But when you talk about Sonny Stiles and Caleb Downs, you know, they're the guys that are almost like coaches on the field.

And when you look at Sunny, I mean, he's wearing the green dot. He's doing the communicating. He started at safety and now, you know, plays linebacker. And so he sees it from, you know, from top down. And then when you look at Arvel, you know, he played linebacker, but also spent some time when the D-Line came back. to linebackers, so he can do multiple things. They're versatile players, but in the transition of sort of a new terminology and new scheme, you know, those are the guys that have been able to get guys around them to play better. And I think that's the sign of a great one, is when they

make the guys around them better through the communication. But the versatility of all of those guys is what really, I think, what separates them. And just how fast they're playing right now, you can just see there's just a twitch about Arvel, about Sonny, about Caleb, they're seeing it, They're anticipating and not reacting, and that's the key. Matt Patricia also showcasing a good Twitch, isn't he? You see him on a sideline? Looks like he's a little faster than he's ever been. Yeah, he looks good, man.

He's down some weight. He's, you know, moving around good. The beard looks sharp. I mean, he's moving fast now. Hey, you're talking about yourself there, too, a little bit. You look good. Beard's good, too. All the same things you send his way.

I think you could go ahead and send right back to yourself, brother. You're absolutely killing it on top of the world. Talk about Matt Patricia, though. His defense, you know, it was chatted about after Texas. You know, I think after the Texas game, everybody was like, hold on. And now a game day, anytime I bring up Ohio State, I have to bring up, like, giving up less than six points a game. Like, Illinois scored some, I think late, and I think there was probably a whole conversation about how that's not how we're doing it this year. And I assume the next week, I think you guys came out and shut them out, Wisconsin, I think it was the next week.

And you guys gave up zero points or whatever. What is Matt Patricia's defense like for you to learn about, too? Is it vastly different than what the boys were doing in the past, or why do you think it has kind of worked so well in college? as we know him as an NFL guy. Well, Matt, Matt has such a roll-a-decks of years of going against really good offenses. And then also has, you know, this resume of players that he's had over the years. And what you'll hear him say a lot of is, you know, Arvel's like so-and-so. Or when I had Jamie Collins, he was like this player.

And, you know, Ninkovich reminded me of this player. And so, you know, he combines some of these players that he's had in his past with the schematics of playing against, you know, you know, some of the best, you know, quarterbacks and offenses that have been, you know, in the NFL in the last 10 to 20 years. And so when you combine all those things with a group of guys that, you know, my opinion have a high football IQ, it can be a lot of fun. Yeah.

Every day when he comes in a building, you know, he's got that pencil and he's pulling it out and he's coming up with new stuff and these guys embrace it. But they're the ones that have to put it on the field. I mean, they're all good plays. We all got good plays, but the players that are ones that have to get it done. Yeah, and him being able to communicate with that generation. You know, like, oh, we didn't know how it was going to go. with Matt Patricia. We obviously know him.

I think we know him very well, have a lot of respect for him. We all appreciate the hell out of him. Obviously, the play call Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots is one of the most legendary defensive play calls in the history or defensive stands in the history of ball. But when it went to Detroit, how it went, and now he's going to college, especially with the Belichick stuff, how will it work out? It's been awesome seeing him smile. You know, it's been awesome seeing him enjoy football.

You too? Have you been enjoying it a little bit more this year? like I say fun is winning okay okay okay okay yeah fun is fun is kicking ass i can tell you that losing's no fun so that's it but i will say this being around these players and these coaches uh is fun coming in the building every day is fun and i think for for this age group it's important that when you walk in this building every day if you're going to play all the way to january these guys better like coming in the building because if they don't it's not going to go very well and so we have to we have to figure out ways

to drive them, push them, make them uncomfortable, but they have to like being around each other. And it's like that with the staff and with the players. When you walk through that trophy room over here, what a hilarious flex. Not everybody's had a chance, obviously, to be in the Ohio State Practice facility. We have been very lucky to be in there and have an entire day there with six. I mean, so awesome. I mean, it was absolutely incredible being over there.

Also, took some of your uncrustables, you know, had a couple of those. We appreciate it. We enjoyed some of the fruits of the boys' labor over there for sure. But, like, as you walk into that facility, it's just a big trophy room. And this thing's three, four stories high. It's all trophies everywhere. It immediately puts into perspective, I think, like, oh, yeah, we win around here. And I think that's a nice reminder, especially with what you guys just did.

Like, this isn't new. This is what Ohio State football is. And on that note, you might have your best quarterback you've ever had right now. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach Pat mentioned how no one's really talking about Julian Sane, although he is the odds on favorite to win Heisman. And even at the start of the season, that was kind of the big question mark. Hey, we know how

talented this guy is, but we still haven't seen it, especially coming in for Will Howard, who had that many starts under his belt and that much experience. How impressed have you been with Julian Sane so far this year? Because if you don't really watch the games and you just look at the box scores, it seems like

he's getting better each and every week. Well, he is. He is. I think his confidence is probably the biggest thing. I think we've always seen that Julian can make the throws. He has that innate talent. The ball comes out quickly.

His mind works quickly. His footwork is good. He's probably a little more athletic than he gets credit for. He's quick. But to me, it's been the preparation. He had an opportunity to watch Will Howard go about it last year.

What came with that? What came with last season? And what a great opportunity to take a year to learn from somebody? And then go now, and now it's his team. And the command he has, the confidence

that the guys have around them that if they protect for them, you know, they know they've got some really good receivers that are getting open down the field and then certainly in the run game. So I just like this command of the offense and his confidence right now. I think that's what, AJ, didn't that what you said from watching the game live? You said it was the first game. You really had a chance to be down there this season because you've had, you know, family and visiting stuff going on.

You're like, he's a guy. He operates as a guy, right, AJ? Yeah, I was on the field pregame. And then I saw the first couple series from the end zone. And yeah, watching him just everything. Like I told you, Coach, like I said on the show here, I watch all the little things, how he comes into out of the huddle, talking to coaches, yeah, and he, when he decides to pull the trigger, man,

that dude, he's got a live arm. It's fun to watch. Good for you, Ryan. Hey, good for you all over there. Congratulations on a great start. Obviously, you've won absolutely nothing this season, okay? Nothing. Number one team.

That's right. Number one team in a country, though. Hey, number one team in the country. This guy, right here. This guy's the number one team in a country. Well, hey, Scott. Keep telling everybody, because that's what I'm telling. We don't want a thing yet.

We haven't done a thing yet. So we've got a long way to go. I don't know. Tuesday night, I think I saw they crowned you guys. Yeah, this guy, you guys, the number one team to cut. Don't start with that, crap. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, National.

Ryan Day, thank you. Yeah, go. He wasn't saying, did that. He's starting to get up. No, that's uncomfortable. We haven't won anything. No, no, no, no. No, you guys did Tuesday night.

they actually said, you win. These are the winners. Done deal. These are, look at them, right there in the middle of the bracket in a very weird place. That's the number one team in the country.

Can they not? Couldn't they set that up differently just for now? So it does it? Like, this is what it's going to look like when you're there. But yeah, the number one team in the country right here

in the middle of the thing. It's like, all right, sweet. That's an interesting dynamic. But on that note, Julian's saying so good. Yeah. I love hearing what he just said right there. His leadership, his command,

his moxie is what drives the boys. That's very real when it comes to quarterback position, especially brand new quarterback for a team, or a brand new starter for a team agent. I think if he came in and just like stumbled out of the gates and lost the game earlier and just hasn't been playing well, like coming off the year they had with Will Howard

and how old he'd done, like, good luck. They would be calling for your head three series into the first game. And he still has Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate out there. So it's like, what's, what, so we know what the problem is. It's this one right here. Yeah. This quarterback right here. Well, it's a whole new team, actually.

We don't really know. We got to give them time to kind of find, nope. Yeah, we just saw it in National Championship. We just watched third and nine, you remember? Yeah, well, hard through that. We need Julian to do that. And he has beats Arch in Texas week one. Nobody talks about him. Then he just goes on to be

dominant. 80% completion rate or something like that? Yeah, still there. It's like 80% completion. He's not digging and dunking either. Like, he's not just yeah, throwing behind a lot of scrimmage. Deep balls. Quick release, too. He's got a little Damarino in there. He's got a little Danny. He's got a little Danny. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's go Let's go to the great state of Texas with a team that is undefeated in the SEC.

It's time to feel the... Ooh. That's a good one. Did you feel it, AJ? Yeah, he was the best one yet. That was by far the best one. Well, I had to take my big countries. Yeah, sure.

Up on this big seat, because we got a man with a big brain. Ladies and gentlemen, the Texas A&M football head coach. The number three team in the country, undefeated Texas A&M Aggies. Michael. There is a heck of an introduction right there, Pat. I appreciate you getting on a chair for me. Hey, you know what? I did get on chair for me.

you because of how big of a fan of yours I am. Did you feel the beat over there? Did it hit your bones at all? It did. It did. I was dancing. You still didn't have the camera on at the time. Okay.

I knew that about you. Golly, I knew that about you. Okay. Speaking of knowing about you, I didn't know much, okay, before I get in the college football world.

Down at Duke, I obviously get to meet you, your entire staff. You go over to Texas A&M and take the job. It's huge deal. Everybody says, Mike Elko, good football coach.

Mike Elko, good football coach. Texas A&M has all the support that you could possibly want to be a good team. Everybody assumes you're going to be good. Then going into this season, your second year, nobody's really talking about Texas A&M. Even at the beginning of the season, you guys have a couple good games.

Nobody's really expecting greatness. I want to let you know because of how big your brain is, okay, and how everybody has ever said about you is you're a good football coach. I expected your team to be great this year, and I don't want to, like, say I'm a super genius, but did you as well? You had to know that this was probably coming with this particular squad in the preseason, and how do you feel sitting undefeated at this stage of the season? season with everything literally very much in front of you still?

Yeah, obviously we felt like we had a chance to take a huge step forward. And, you know, last year we had a really good first two months of the season and we didn't finish it the right way. And I love the way our kids attacked the offseason. I love the development that we had in the program. There was a really good feel for where the culture was and what guys were doing. And so we went into the season, obviously, confident that we could put things together and have a really good year.

And, you know, it's a testament to the kids that they went out and did that. And obviously we've added some weapons on offense, and I think that's made a big difference for us. Tell me about Marcel Reed. Obviously, we saw him last year a bit, but whenever you talk about executing the entire offense, it feels like he's very comfortable, very confident, and the boys seemingly love him out there? How could you not? Yeah, no, I think he's made a huge step. You know, I got kind of tired to answer in the question in the offseason because it was the one everybody wanted to know.

But we had seen it. You know, we had seen the development. We knew how hard he was working. We knew what he was capable of becoming. and we knew he could be the quarterback we needed throwing the football and running it. And so I think you see a kid now who can sit confidently in the pocket and go through his progressions and put the ball where he needs to go. And you also see a kid that you're showing in these highlights that when the play breaks down,

he can go out and he can make things happen with his athleticism. And so he's truly become the dual threat kid we knew he could be. And it's hard to argue that there's been a quarterback better in big moments on big stages than him this year. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, I think somebody coached that probably helps him. with a lot of that. Your O.C. Colin Reed. I know you're being, you're a defensive guy, but bringing in an offensive coordinator, obviously a huge high, huge hire. Yeah, my bad about that, Klein. But I would, thinking about that higher as a defensive coach, what is that done

for your offense? He's not, I know he's not very old guy, and you bring him in there, and he just hits the ground run, and you guys are very balanced, explosive offense. Yeah, I think, obviously, when you're the defensive-minded guy, that's a really critical hire for you. I did a very similar thing when I got to Duke. I kind of locked myself in a room and I just study offenses and watched what he did at Kansas State. I thought he was really multiple on how he attacked people. I thought he did a really good job utilizing his personnel there and figure it out, sit down and have a talk with them. And when we got together, we actually had breakfast in Colorado. I flew out to Colorado to spend time with them. And we just really hit it off. We did. I think

philosophically, we're very much aligned in how we see things. And obviously, he's doing a tremendous job coordinating that side of the ball and then create an explosive attack every week. What's you guys do? You flew to Colorado and smoked some weed? Well, you know, I don't know if that's really the cup of tea that we're at, but we had a good breakfast, Pat. We had a good breakfast. You can mind out of the gutter a little bit, Pat.

It's still early in the weather. I know in my mind. I'm heading to Colorado. Okay, I know where I'm headed. I know what I'm doing. It's different. You're a ball coach. Different spots in life, Pat, you and I right now. Hey, maybe you and I go to Colorado one time, though. You know, you do a little breakfast, I'll do a little smoke. You're

and we'll figure it all out. But I appreciate you taking that, knowing that that was the guy you want. That's why you travel to Colorado, go do that, selling him. And then now you guys obviously are reaping everything that you've sown from that offseason because you guys look special on the offensive side.

There's actually some question marks on the other side. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, coach, since you said you're a defense guy, I wanted to ask you about this Tuesday, the college football committee chair, playoff committee committee chair, whatever the title is. Mac Roads said the different.

Super duper leader. duper leader of the college football playoff committee said the difference between Ohio State Indiana and A&M when they got down to it was the defense. That's why you guys were three and not one or two. Obviously the beginning of the season you had Notre Dame which was just a high scoring affair

but then you got an SEC play and your third down defense is unbelievable. Getting to the quarterback's been unbelievable. What has been the difference and have you guys grown all season long on that defensive side? Yeah, I think so. And listen when it comes to the rankings, you know, they have a really difficult task. You're trying to

to compare apples, oranges, and bananas all across the country. Nobody plays the same teams. Nobody has similar schedules. And so, you know, it's a good thing now. The playoff is 12. And ultimately, at the end of the day, it's going to get decided on the field. In terms of our defense, yeah, I think we've grown each week. I think we've had weeks where we've played consistently really, really well.

We've had quarters where we've played really, really well. I still think we're trying to put it all together still at the level we're capable of. but, you know, we've got the leading sack man in the SEC who's swimming on the ground right there on the highlight of now. And, yeah, I think we've got a pretty good secondary that's gotten better every week. And so, you know, we just look forward to continuing to grow and really become what we're capable of being. Anytime we are reading the stats of your defense early in the season, it was like, well, Elka's going to get the defense. Elka is going to get the defense at some point. Was it as easy as just like figuring things out or like what is a change that you can make throughout a season to make a defense better?

Yeah, I think, you know, one, the kids get more comfortable in what we're doing. I think, two, as the stages have gotten bigger, they've, you know, elevated their focus level a little bit. I think confidence has grown a little bit, and I think they're playing at a better level. And, yeah, I think we've played complimentary football for the most part this year. There's been times where the defense has carried it, but there's certainly been times where the offense has had to step up and carried as well. Second year at Texas A&M undefeated. You got four left. You got Mizzu at Mizzu.

then you have South Carolina, Sanford, and then Texas to wrap up the season. I know you can't be looking ahead or anything like that, but you've got to be excited that in your second year in a place that was willing to pay the amount of money that they're willing to pay to move on, that you've been able to deliver for them, honestly. And I hope you take a lot of pride in that, and I hope you share that with the boys down there for all the hard work that you've already been able to accomplish.

No, for sure. You know, there's obviously a burden when you come in here, and you know there's there's expectations that hey if we spent that amount of money to make the change and you're the guy that we picked we're kind of expecting results and um you know it was two years in a row that we put ourselves in position going into november to be meaningful and be relevant um you know we got to go finish it and that's that's been the mindset that's been the focus every step along the way we know we're talented team we know we have the we have the ability to go out and play with anybody in the country but you know every saturday you got to go out and

prove it, and that's the world we live in today. And so we're here. It's November. It's time to go. It's time to go show what we're capable of, and we're excited for the big challenge we got on Saturday. Yeah, you're in a good spot. It doesn't sound like that sometimes, though. Ty has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, has the local media lightened up

a little bit over the last couple weeks? I know a couple weeks ago, you know, you guys were still undefeated. Obviously, that's what fans like to do. They like to get all cynical and poke holes and everything when you don't win 100 to nothing every week. But now, after the most recent rankings and where you guys are at, are things pretty good

every single day when you're talking with people who are covering the team? Listen, media is the media. You guys are a big part of it too. Whoa! Yeah, we are part of the problem. No, no, it's, um, listen, everybody, everybody wants to,

everybody wants to figure out how come this part's not perfect, that part's not perfect. I think the biggest thing that I've just tried to get our fan base and our media around is the fact that it's hard to win football games. And so we're doing things, you know, we want the road against the top 10 team for the first times. It's 1979. We won in Baton Rouge for the first time since 1994 or 8 and O for the first time since night. Like those are long times ago.

Like I was not like very much into coaching at that point. And so like let's just take a step back and let's enjoy the fact that we're winning and let's not just focus on the play in the second quarter that we didn't do the right way and how that's going to kill us if we move forward and we keep making those mistakes. I will say that's second quarter play. has come back to butt. I actually think I heard you. I think I heard you referencing that on. Just wait.

I'm going to start doing a little bit more research on your poor-ass second quarters now that I know that that is potentially where we need to attack. I appreciate, though, that you're keeping it all in perspective, though, through it all. And obviously that relationship with people that have been covering the team for a long time, they've been through this.

You know, they've been through it a lot of times. They're expecting probably, which is once again why you're hired to bring it in the way it is. And on that note, you talk about having a good setup down there I've had an opportunity obviously to be a part of a couple game days down there your crowd and your fans are so awesome

I mean it is such a cool place but also the traditions and the way you guys set things up might be tops in the country go ahead con man yeah coach let's go off the field and talk about the game day kind of production of the whole entire thing do you think that the college football

playoff would rank Texas A&M's walkout as number one one of our guys gumpy always post it and it's basically the most electric walkout in the entire country, I'd say. Yeah, I mean, certainly got to be up there. I think we're 10 straight games. We've had over 100,000

fans in our stadium. You know, the 12th man shows up and supports always. I think we've had more people at our Friday night, midnight yells than a lot of people have in their home games. It is. It's a really passionate fan base. It's a great atmosphere. There's nothing like running out of the tunnel

on Kyle Field. And, you know, it's just great to put together a season that these fans really deserve and can really get behind and, you know, we're obviously focused on this week in South Carolina, or in Missouri, but it'll be great to get back home for South Carolina. It's been a while. It's been over a month since we've been home. Oh, the place is going to go crazy. Yeah.

Oh. You like that song. You can dance to that one, do you? I see you too. Hey, I see you two turn around doing a little talk, a little bat on the shore, and then you do your little skip, you know, you got your little skip, little run, bringing it back. old school. It is a... You can't walk down the tunnel without a little bit of swagger and how you go about it. Especially with the lighting. And from what I heard some of the boys say last year while

they're walking down next to you, it's like, I don't know how you're not ready to go win a football game by a thousand. The lighting, the songs, just everything about it is special. And you talk about the midnight yell. You know, obviously that is easy for other teams to make fun of. It's like, they're dressed where you're going through a thing they're doing this thing at midnight. It's like, these people are showing up for the game literally at midnight the night before so they can learn how they can terrorize your team on the thing. It is a

it's a special place and I love that you've embraced it all and your walkout is, I don't know. Tennessee had a great one last week. Bama. Tema's got a six set of Penn State obviously at the whiteout people will talk about for a long, long time. Oregon was insane when I was up there.

It's just a little smaller than everywhere else. Texas Tech, I believe, has a pretty sweet one of those. I've experienced that this weekend, but your guys' shit is awesome. And look at you, hey, hey, how are you feeling on the runouts this year? You know, you're 30-some days away from your last runout. How are you feeling? We do a little knee drive, maybe get a full sprint like your dabbo out there? Well, I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm going to risk pulling something like that, but no, there's an energy. When you get down to the bottom of that tunnel, like, there's an energy and an electricity in the air that really is, it's unmatched. And it's an

unbelievable feeling it's an unbelievable feeling leading that group out and uh and you feel especially good when you know the group behind you is going to go out and play the way they're capable of and lay it all in the line and have your back and so um it's it's just it's a really good time right now to be a fight in texasaggy there's no doubt about it you got a special place down there and they got a special coach you're the man ladies and gentlemen coach mike alcoe hey oh i'm going appreciate you guys you guys from lovick do you know oh gosh pretty far like really far Big state. Yeah, probably like four northeastern states.

I think we're like eight hours. So you take, you take Rhode Island, you take Delaware, you take Fremont, even Massachusetts, I think you could. The seven-hour drive. Like New Jersey down to, you know, North Carolina. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Elko, I won't see you this weekend. I won't see you this weekend. That was funny, about four northeastern states away.

Seven hours. that is Boston, the D.C., so he's not lying. That's crazy. You think about how big Texas. All of Pennsylvania. So West Texas is North Texas, right? Because that's Lubbock is kind of, it feels like. Any of them's down here, Lubbock's up here.

Yeah. Yeah, they count that as a West Texas, I think, is right? A lot of this, too, I think. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's what Rader Red does. That's right. It's where Yosemite Sam's from. Not really.

I assume so. I thought he was from Yosemite. I assume. No, no. He looks just like. like Raider Red. He does look just like Raider. It's probably from down there.

Yes. Yep. Yeah. I foresee a lot of that. Oh my gosh. I'll make sure I'll do it good though. Are you taking a couple with you? Well, I don't know.

A couple six shooters? I mean, that's the thing. You got to check the state laws when you're traveling. Oh, Texas, you can do it. Plenty of musicians have gotten in trouble with their tour buses. You know, because they've potentially been strapped up. And then all of a sudden you drive into a state and it's like, well, actually your gun license doesn't work here. But it just

worked like 20 minutes. Well, we're not 20 minutes ago. So we are now putting you in jail for how long. However we want. So I think Texas probably would be pretty good. If I had to guess, Indiana Texas, probably share some gun license. Yeah, maybe I do take a couple of mine, Donner. Just pull them out right now.

Absolutely. Pull them both out. This is what I go? Shoot in the air, though. Shoot up in the air, though. Don't shoot it towards anybody. Oh, you want me to go shoot it too. So you didn't. I thought you were really. I thought you were. You say if I'm pulling it out, all right, let's get the one out of the back, let's get the one here,

and then let's actually unload these things. You're on the set. Could you imagine me on the set? Be awesome. Lights dropping. Got to come down somewhere. Yeah. That'd be crazy.

Can't wait to get down there with them. Honestly, I've heard nothing but great things. And obviously, the videos we have seen coming out of Lubbock in preparation for this weekend's game are special. And those kids have been practicing kicking. It looks like there are some guys that got some good shit kickers on down there. That can be able to move it. Okay, let's talk about some, um, news around the NFL that is

phenomenally sad Cowboys number 94 literally just scored a touchdown a few nights ago on Monday night football for the Dallas Cowboys on a block punt was found dead

this morning and obviously this is incredibly sad just had the night or the game in the moment I assume that he's worked his entire life to have and then Frisco police in the Texas state resource, I believe, department, something along those lines, have put out a couple statements right before we went live about an accident happening and

then a chase and then him evading and then a search in an area and then him sending some messages to people that he knew that were potentially alarming and then they found him passed away. So we would just like to let everybody know that we are so sorry that this happened down there in Dallas to the Cowboys. We are so sorry to the family, the friends, teammates, former coaches of Marshall, especially after what just happened on Monday. Everybody that has coached this guy, been a teammate with this guy, you name it on Monday, after he scores that touchdown, say, this is our guy, this is our guy. So he literally just probably came up in conversation again for so many people, probably so many

good memories being talked about, so many good stories, so many good everything happening just on Monday. And then here we are just a few days later, and he's gone. And it's like, we didn't know him, but this is certainly something like perspective, dude, like you never know what anybody's going through. You have no idea what's going on in anybody's life. And if you have the opportunity to maybe change the trajectory of somebody's day by just telling them like, hey, hope you're good.

Let's go ahead and do that. That's like another reminder is what I saw from this, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, terrible things like this, yeah, that's the only, you've got to take the only positives. Yeah, like should hopefully bring you together with the people you care about and you love. And yeah, it's weird, man. It's weird with all. Dealing with all of it, as you get older, too, it's wild. So, yeah, I think it should perspective.

you always talk about that. Yeah, perspective, big. So rest in peace to him and his family, and we are so, so sorry about that. Rashid Shihid went into Seattle. He's the new Seahawks wide receiver. He said, I'm here to stay. I'm here to stay.

He's a weapon. Sam Darnold can spin it. And now that you've got Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, and Rashid on the same offense, let alone all the other weapons, it's like the Seattle Seahawks go from great to greater somehow, and they're in it for real, AJ. It feels like the Seattle Seahawks make a big-time stand.

that they are in it for real was Rashid Shaheed and he's feeling the same way it sounds like. Yeah, it's good to see how he enjoys being there and he wants to be there for a long time. Yeah, John Schneiderman, he just kind of quietly goes about his business and continues to make this team better and better. This route right here is awesome, by the way. I love watching this. Yeah, and you have to give him respect for the deep ball so he can cut those things off at any moment. So he can be a mid-throw anytime he wants because everybody's got to give him so much respect for the deep ball. So it's like, I'm excited to see what they do with him in that offense. Huge news in hockey last night.

Alex Ovechkin scored his 900th goal. First player ever with 900 goals. Congratulations, OV. OV. Friend of the program, I guess we could say. Because he obviously joined the program last year as he was in the middle of breaking the goals record. Now he's at 900 goals, first person ever, and he does it in a nasty backhand, obviously, sneaking it past the goalie. OV special. Very, very lucky that we've been able to watch his entire run.

And I think he's nowhere near done, if you listen to him talk. He's going to be putting pucks in the nets for as long as he possibly can. Nick, this guy's the greatest goal score in the history of hockey, and he notches another resume builder, basically. Absolutely. And he does it in an ovi-like fashion with a spinning backhand, pretty exceptional to do. And he's going again tonight against the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Ooh. Okay. Oh, no. Sorry, you're plateauing at 900 for a while, Ovi, as the boys. We're celebrating. Remember, if you can watch an NHL game, do it. They're awesome. The sport's great, and it's currently happening,

and Ovi is a goat, and we get a chance to watch him for hopefully the next 10 years, if he continues to drink his Diet Coke and the way he operates. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll make our picks digitally on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live. Hope you're able to find those, obviously, with a lot of things going on in the world. We hope to continue to be a little bit of a distraction. to all the bullshit and a celebration of sports we'll celebrate the uh week 10 kicking off tonight tomorrow goodbye tonight's week 10 i was going to say should have wanted it i mean it still lies

yeah title of the title of the day you see what the blue's goal he did what he did he took a puck and hit it in his pants yes ref had to come get it from classic banner unbelievable where he's canadian but this was after i believe he got caught and he had to give it back. Yeah, the ref comes up to him right after. Oh, he didn't do it. The ref comes over gives him a little talking to it. Get him a puck. Hey, we're going to need that puck.

No. Why do they need it back? Why do they skate away so he didn't see him take it out of his pants? He's following. He's still there with you, dude. I don't have it. What are you talking about? It's not me. Oh, he's in the corner. Oh, how about it getting there? Oh, there was the whole time. He was going to keep that? Why does it smell like poop? What was that? He was going to sell it on eBay for like

a thousand bucks. He likes to get under the skin of the other team anyway he can. He'll find any edge and he'll take it. Did you hear the story about the guy that had the home run ball hit him in the leg while he was trying to buy some popcorn or something like that? Show Hay's home run ball.

There's a guy that was in like a concession line. Homer, bomb, hits him in a leg, just picks it up. 150,000. Yeah, pretty sweet. That's sweet. Yeah, I was reading the story about, How much the auction people are like, yep, we will, we got to do this entire thing now

because of this entire deal. And it was just such a bomb that it made it all the way into the thing and just. Oh, nice. Baseball. Sir, this ball, we now need your ID. We need to take a picture. Can I get my not? Fuck your nachos.

Fuck your nachos. Come with me. Yeah, that is. Yeah, that's crazy. Like sports memorabilia. Remember Tom Brady's situation from a few years back. Tyree Saliburton and Yannis, right? Didn't they have a situation?

the ball basketball was happening all this you know these memorable moments that's why cam little whenever we finally were able to debut the entire conversation he chatted about how you know they want the the ball or the cleats i forget what they want they want something and he's like i'm not giving him the jersey though no they wanted the jersey and he said i'm not giving him the ball it's like you let the jersey go and all the fucking brother yeah they'll put lights on that to him look like you're fucking fuck this. They're going to make it look like you are

one of the legends of the game. And Cam Little is just going to be like, you know, dude, that's my fucking jersey. Yeah, legit. 68-yarder.

Think about that. He's going to beat it. Don't you think he's going to beat that? He would have for that particular care. He would have for that particular kick. He's special talent. All right, let's get to a break on the other side. Let's make our picks.

Let's wrap up storylines. Oh, want to talk about it. We almost lost Ty in a U-ball incident. Oh, yeah. So, D-Bone was kick-tipping with his foot? Let's go to the footage, actually. If we could pause

the music. So we actually have the footage. Foxy found the footage. And here's the moment. Obviously, Foxy shoots. Oh. Yeah. It's okay. See, it kind of comes quick, so we'll zoom it. Boom. He was nowhere near jumping in the area. Remember, if you kick the ball, you have to be in.

You don't have to say it was to do that. You don't have skill to do that. My defense, that's the first time I've stuffed my foot out and just to help you guys get it. Because my first reaction was Debo trying to change the game a little bit, trying to do that. Tye's first reaction. Why the fuck do you think you'd be able to pull that off? Elma's died. Ball goes flying past head.

You ball's getting good. You ball's getting good in here. Nowhere near jumping, by the way. Don't you have to attempt to jump? You've got to attempt to jump, right? Yes, if you're going to kick, it has to appear as if you're trying to be in the air. There might be a chance you're on the ground, but at least the thought was I have to be in the sky. Because a kick is a radical move on the defensive side.

It really turns the entire momentum on its head if you're able to pull off a kick tip into some sort of tip in on the defensive side. DeBone has seen others attempted. Others are just a few people, okay? people that have actually used their feet before potentially professionally, you know. So D-Bone says, wait a minute, I didn't know that was a move. Let me go ahead and just throw this thing out there. And to be clear, great ball contact. Yeah, it really was.

We've been in this Thunderdome for like three or four years now, and I've never seen any ball of any type ever hit the ceiling, ever until D-Bone did that. That a baby, D-Bone. Ropeon had a big one last night to Rimeon. He had a big one. I heard, I heard, I could, I could, I can imagine his face as different people walk into the bus, to the room, wherever it might be. Play a cool, Dubon. Start sweating.

I'm in the kid, I'm in the fridge. Anybody want to water? Everybody in there. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Deboone. No, I'm good. Just act normal. Just fucking take one. I heard he ended the night well, too.

Yeah, I mean, he's, he batted a thousand, I will say. I will say the DeBone bad a thousand. Looks so cool, too. He had his boots on the whole. Oh, hell, yeah. Did you hear what he had to do? What's that? 1.30 a.m. when you guys got back?

Yeah. He had a calling. He had to go to McDonald's. He was hungry. Come on. They open 24 hours? Oh, yeah. 10 feet.

I thought that with the night he had. 10 piece. It gets better. He took a detour because Sarge was behind him, so Sarge didn't see him going. No. So he evaded Zard? So how did you find out?

He told us to that. He was lining up for a donut this morning and told us. Yeah, but he had a tummy ache after he and the McDonald's, so then he had to rub one out. It saved his night. He said it was perfect ending. Didn't get to bed until about 2.15. Yeah.

Went on a deep dive, page 50. That's a lot of right. I don't know, man. That's what he does. All right, let's get a break on the other side. We'll make a pick. We'll see if D-Bone's okay. DeBone, come on.

1.30 a.m. We can't be doing that. He got off the place. be perfect end this night. Some McDonald's. I respect that you're in that stage of your life. And I've been there before.

We're just trying to tell you, D-bonies, just drink a water. Just chug a water. It's 1.30 a.m. Just chug a water. You'll be so uncomfortable you won't want to eat. Just go to bed.

You'll wake up in five hours. And you'll have to piss. And then you're up for breakfast. Yep. And then guess what? You can get McDonald's breakfast. Because what he did, you know what he did.

The 1.30 actually told, oh, I can't wait for. breakfast McDonald's. He got McDonald's breakfast again immediately. He probably did. Yeah. Yeah. Live your life, Dibone. I mean, he's going to start driving out to like, well, no, I guess if he admitted it, but yeah,

if he's trying to, you know, lose a tail so people don't know that he's going to McDonald's, and yeah, that's a lot. There's an update on the group text. 13 minutes out of my way, by the way, had to. First Sergeant Garland. Jesus. It's unbelievable.

I almost broke my neck on that plane last night, nodding off. I had one of those. Oh my God. It was late night, but it was worth it. And watching DeBone like a little kid in there was pretty cool. Hell yeah. It was pretty cool, a little moment. Obviously, you knew every song that was being seen.

This one hasn't been released yet. D-Bone's singing every word. There's actually a couple samples that have been released to this song. It's a blah, blah, blah, blah, website or blogger. or whatever. It's like, Jesus, you're awesome. You are awesome. We're in it.

We were in the middle of it. Country royalty last night. Country royalty, all over the place. And I'll say this, everybody crushed it. That was a great show. Like, it was a very, very good... There was emotional moments in there. There was high in there.

We were super country at one point. I mean, we were fucking out there in the country one time. Debo knew it all. And that's why we love it. Bingo. From Searchlight Pictures comes rental family only in theaters November 21st. Earning rave reviews at Tiff, rental family is emotional, funny, and the feel-good movie of the year. Academy Award winner Brendan Fraser stars as a lonely American actor living in Tokyo

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A man who works here at the Thunderdome on a daily basis, who has many nicknames, but in just as many jobs around here, who we certainly love. Bailey McCombie, McCombie, who is also, know, his bill and many other nicknames. He had to exit to Thunderdome very abruptly and in quite a panic, as he had learned that somebody just drove into his house. So he has a car currently in his house somewhere.

He just got a phone call, and during the break, it was somebody crashed a car in my house, so I got to go. Are the cats okay? That's... Hopefully not. Full sprint. Full sprint out of Thunderdome. We hope his cats are okay.

Tone does not speak for the... Freudian slip of the time. Yeah, that's... Yeah, come on, Toad. He loves these cats. That's AP Tone. The toxic table here is at Boston Corner at Tysh Schmidt. I have cats.

I'd be very worried if there was a car potentially... You got cool cats. Sitting inside of the house, potentially. We don't know the... I don't think he knows what it is either. And then as he's leaving, guess who fires up? Guess who fires up? Fire department right across the street.

So it's like, we don't even know if they're heading to Bailey's. No. We don't even know if they're heading. But Bailey's running out of the Thunderdome as the fire trucks right across the street are going this way. A whole siren. So a lot of chaos out here. We'd like to let Bill know. Pulling free, buddy.

Good luck, Bill. Look, Bill. So. Is that a vet? We got caution tape out. Yeah, we got caught. And that was where the. fire trucks we're headed to it appears if he is okay we hope everybody's all right including uh

the cats and bailey hey bailey we love we love you buddy and you should feel pretty good about your knee drive that was pretty good run yeah out of the thunderthum through the parking lot to his truck hits the gate on the roll out of the gate two cars behind fire truck as he's getting out of if we know anything about bill he handles situations like this better than anybody yeah this is something he's very good at whenever there's a little bit of adversity yep that's why we sent Mitt behind them to assess the situation and make sure everything was okay. We did send Mitt. We were hoping for potentially a drone follow, because it is pretty near to here. Yeah. Drone following Bailey's car, okay, as he's going, turning in,

we got the entire fire, and then Bill getting out of his truck, hands on head. We got drone over top. That's what we were trying to do. We weren't able to get it on fast stuff, because once again, Bailey from telling us he had a car hit his house to sprinting through the parking want, probably six, seven seconds, if I had a guess. So we're proud of Bailey. We hope he's okay. We hope everybody's okay, including the cats. And good luck over here, McComac's.

Good luck, Bill. Maybe Mitt could do, I thought Mitt could do like a live hit, like he's a local broadcaster. You know, they stand outside and... We should actually face-time. Let's FaceTime Mitch. AJ, that's a good call, actually. You know, AJ? He could really paint a picture on what's been going on and give us some information.

We did have to tell him to definitely not be the second person to drive a car into Bailey's house, though. You know, whenever he was following Bailey over there, clearly told him like, hey, now you can't crash into his house. Because

Mitt's worst driver I've ever seen. Parker, bad Parker, bad driver. What if he did? What if he did? We're trying to handle the situation as professionally and as courteously as possible, but we need to get eyes on Bailey reacting to somebody driving into his house. Like, we needed

that for sure, because Bailey does get a little fired up. He does get a little you know, a little bit flustered. Which is, it comes from passion. You know, that comes from his passion, obviously. But yeah, he, uh, when he said, uh, a car drove into my house, I guess, I have to go. I want to, we need to know if it's a, if it was like a targeted attack or it was just

a mistake. I don't know if anybody's targeting, uh, Bailey McCombs's house with a car, but I mean, shit, we don't know what Bailey's up to you. No, exactly. He's working out three times a day. I know he looks very, very fit. Joining us now live from the scene of the crime, ladies and gentlemen, he is a member of Hammer, Don. This is Mitt live from it.

Mitt, how's it going out? Yep, yep. Great. We got a situation over here at the Macomis property. It seems as if just high blood pressure, a guy had 198 in climbing, I think, and hit Bailey's house. Okay, so a guy potentially had a little bit of a diabetes situation, it sounds like, while he's driving?

Yeah, it is a very very. very nice uh it's a nice corvette over here i don't know if you can see it is bailey okay is the house okay is the driver okay yeah uh bailey is uh traking to the cops uh driver seems okay he is going to uh oh here's bailey right now we have an on scene uh interview bailey how's it going buddy it's going it's certainly going uh it looks like this guy had a really sweet corvette uh completely spun out took out my tree which i was just manicuring that it was really get shape right now and uh hit my electrical box and my garage oh perfect perfect okay is he okay is everybody okay though cats good yeah yeah he's okay cats are good uh everything should be okay we'll see

the guys next door actually responded so i got a uh escort directly to my house yeah we saw you follow him yeah we saw it we figured that was the case all right we appreciate you happy here everybody's okay i appreciate you guys thank you good luck man that's good mitt really good dude you should feel very proud of yourself look at you Fuck, yeah. Investigator journalism, let's go. Yeah. Investigator journalism.

You're so good, dude. Yeah, we call it Lit investigation, you know, with Mitt. You're the best. Ladies and John's a man. I've got a really nice Corvette over here. This thing's fucking sick. He had 198 blood pressure, so I heard an ambulance person say that. Right into the electrical box.

Or no, that's actually the meter. I mean, where's possible spot? Happy here, everybody's okay, though, honestly. That is very scary. situation. How about him manicuring his tree? I sure he is. Yeah. Guys doing Bill of favor, I'm sure. What?

Get rid of that thing. That's what the boy said immediately. The boy said immediately, hopefully this guy just took this entire house down. That is what everybody said. It was so sad. It was like, why do you think that? This guy gets a new house. He's been through a lot with this house.

You got a new photo here. Here's where the damage has been done. Oh, that's not. You're good. That's good, sturdy home. He should be proud of that home. You should be proud of that home. Now, it feels like there's probably going to be a lot of things that are going to have to get fixed just with that particular part there. Anytime you get a dent in something, normally that offsets like everything else. So, you know, the knee bones connected to the shin bone in a house, everything's connected.

So whenever one thing is just like this, you've got to fix. Oh, yeah, we've got to fix this top one here too and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one and this one. How long is that going to take three to seven months? Yep. Okay, all right, sweet. We've got different people for different jobs. Bailey just added a whole new You got to knock down the whole structure

Build a whole new garage Unfortunately Bailey's the best person Bailey I'm happy you're okay We're happy you're okay But boy you This getting added to Bailey's life Oh man

For the holidays Oh my God Boy happy everybody's all right Yep It's been worse Okay so we had stolen Skeleton Halloween stuff

We got to the bottom of that Had a car crash. We just had some lit investigation journalism from Mitt. I feel like we're really broadening our horizons. Oh, yeah. Aren't we kind of diving into, maybe we start doing some journalism. We did today. We talked to three coaches.

Yeah, that's right. Texas A&M. We talked to head coach Mike Elko, how we feeling? How's the team? How's everything looking? Journalism. Talk to Ryan Day, told him, hey, you guys won. Yeah.

Congrats. Journalism. Crowd him. Also told me he hadn't done shit. Journalism. Yep. Then we talk to Brett Lashley, fresh off a new deal. They're still in it.

Everybody's wiping them off, including the college football playoff committee. It's like they can still winnie. They got winnable games. They got winnable games coming out to get the ACC championship. ACC championship, will they be able to win it? Ah, they just beat Miami. So you tell me if they're able to do that. Let's go to one half of the hammer.

God. Cowboys Bubba Gumpino. Gumpy, almost like you knew Miami was going to lose that game to SMU. And we're now at the nostalgia part of the season. for Miami Hurricanes fans and I guess Dolphins fans and football season kind of over in October? Yeah, it was a hell of a run for Miami.

It started off hot, but you saw those boys coming off the bus. They weren't winning that game. First game out of Florida, noon kick. We've been playing at night, Friday night, in Miami. It was never going to win that game. Sorry, Gaw. It was a good run. You do that early, go?

You do that early? That's why Herbstreys settled on game day because of how confident Gumpy was in his misery. he was so confident in his misery because you know Miami didn't control their own destiny going into last weekend okay so they were like one of the only there's only two teams Georgia Tech and Virginia that controlled their own destiny and obviously that all changes

but Miami didn't control its own destiny even though it only had one loss so it's like even if they went out there's a chance that they still don't make the ACC championship so does that mean that there are two big league all of a sudden so then going into SMU it's like all right just got to stack wins here especially with the position that you're in who knows what can happen and Gumpy just note this one's not good

this one's not good homecoming guy just signed an extension on contract they're also very good against the run and Carson Beck has not been playing very well I mean he threw a shit load of picks in that game against Louisville and it was more of the same

at least he's not throwing his teammates onto the bus oh shit he is no that one that one was chopped by a Georgia account that was not the full answer but need to be context yeah he had said some things that you could question, but not that one. Yeah, he wants to win more, but a lot of pressure on him going into Miami,

obviously with the way it was going, and it was great to be down there. Cristobal, I think,'s going to have that team in it for a long haul. They got money. They obviously have the U, so they'll be able to go. But SMU's feeling the same way. All these schools that have money, they're like, hey, we can do this. Texas A&M, no different. Texas Tech, no different.

All these Texas schools. Texas Tech, Texas A&M, SMU. It's almost like Texas. people that have money like ball. And everyone's about to have a little bit of money, at least. What do you mean about that? Yeah, North Texas, too. Like, there's some schools in these big conferences that don't have a lot of NIL money,

but every team is at least going to get the TV money here in the upcoming years. So they're going to have some money. Did that get signed off on? I thought they kicked the can down the road even more for that. Eventually, it's happened. That's what everybody said this last time I didn't give O3. Like, when? Remember, they said it was a June or something like that or a July hearing or

May hearing, I forget the exact month. We had the exact month. And then that just came and went, nothing we said. Then they said, no, we postponed it. Then it came and they're like, no, we're going to look into it again. And everybody was like, no, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It didn't happen again. They started the process of providing direct institutional revenue sharing payments to their

student athletes on July 1st, 2025. So it's already started. Oh, so we're already doing a revenue share thing? I don't think it's, I don't know if it's in place for this season, but it started at least. It sounded like it. so this is like the weed business everybody got really going to grow in the weed and being able to move the weed just waiting on the feds to legalize this is the start day of a new system where schools can allocate a portion of their revenue directly to athletes uh yeah so it's already started July 1st 2025 is what what it looks like I could be wrong the internet could be wrong does anybody know anything no in college football I thought the rev share thing was happening in the future if that's already happening more conversation needs you who's spending one of the other salary cap on who i mean we need to start knowing what salary cap is that's the 20 million deal right

yeah but that i thought that wasn't in place i thought that was kind of down the road i didn't know that was happening because everybody's trying to get the max amount of revenue remember trying to come up with ways to generate more revenue that's at least what not ohio states doing would never say that but other schools are like how do we get to max revenue it was one of the reasons why bill belichick was able to go to north carolina because they promised there something along the lines of being at max revenue are they going to be good i was going to ask you What do you think? How is the, yeah, how we're going to look back on this first season for Bill at UNC?

I mean, really loud, obviously. It was really, really loud. And they've been able to stay the course somehow. And they're just like still playing ball and getting better in winning games and still out on the road recruiting through it all. These people don't want to be here. They're not going to last with the full season. These guys stink.

Obviously, this is a failure. And then he got Lombardi and Belichick in tiny towns across the country trying to find some new offensive linemen that they can sign to their first ever recruiting class. interesting stuff in the North Carolina Tarheel football story, you know, because he is greatest coach of all time conversation, no matter what anybody wants to say. He's actually going into the Hall of Fame this year probably. Congratulations to him being a semi-finalist on the coaches Hall of Fame. They changed the rule that it didn't have to be five years after you retire. We all think so that they could just put Melichick in because obviously

in the NFL, he is, you know, the guy. And in it all. So I'm intrigued. to see if he turns this around, if everybody will have respect for him. You know, and the loud that was would become the opposite whenever they win. And can they win there? They think so because of the amount of money and the revenue stuff. So we'll see. You're right, Tony. If everybody's going to have money, then there's a chance everybody can be competitive. So I chat GPTed it. They had to opt into it. Most schools did opt into it and then started paying their athletes, yeah. Looks like it. So West Virginia is paying school right now with revenue share? We're paying our athletes?

Let me see. Do the W.O. Optin? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't need to be targeting. We don't need to be targeting money. We just need to say maybe which schools did, which schools? Yeah, has publicly stated that it will fully participate in the revenue sharing. It will fully participate. That's what I'm saying.

The will in our right now, you're saying, is it happening right now? That's what I'm being told. But then you still raise all this NIL money next to it, right? Yes, West Virginia is starting to participate in NCAA revenue sharing for its athletes, while with the 2025-2026 athletic season is the target for full participation. A key partnership with Hope Gas will help WVU meet its revenue sharing obligation, specifically around $20.5 million. Hell yeah.

The university has been generating funds through other avenues, such as Golden Blue Enterprises, partnerships with companies like Planet Fitness and Grant County Maltz and Craft Beer Collaborations. Oh, okay. Best mulch in time. Yeah. they also have that whiskey I believe The whiskey Yeah it is pretty good

People are gonna get creative Okay so we're just straight out of the revenue right now So can we see salary caps Can we see you would think so Can we see how much people have left Can we start seeing how much money is being allocated To what positions? Can we start We start learning about the game a little bit here

Because everybody's talking about these guard rolls Feels like we have them a little bit here now And we don't have any of the information We need to start pressing for that Well do you need salary caps on every single sports then Or do you need because is that revenue for all athletes It's right for the whole school. Yeah, so 16.5 is the number allegedly for football.

There's like a certain percentage. It was like 80% I think is what some people might do, but there was no rule that was made to every athletic director was potentially going to have to make the decision, which is what they were worried about. Man, I thought we kicked this can down the road. I didn't know we were still doing that right now. Congress of College getting better and better.

Let's make some picks for tonight, age. Okay, let's make some picks for it tonight. Raiders, Broncos. Broncos favored by eight and a half on ESPN bet until about December 1st. And then everywhere else, you could potentially get it at nine and a half as well. At least a couple hours ago, is it the same story right now? Yes, sir. What is the percentage on money on what tone day?

It has not moved to 66% of the money is on the Broncos tonight. Okay, 66% of the money on the Broncos. You can get them at minus 8.5. This is at 815 tonight on Amazon Prime. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? I think I maybe showed a little bit earlier on this program. I am leaning heavy Denver Broncos minus 8.

and a half at home tonight, especially are we wearing, do we know, to confirm they're wearing these uniforms right here? I do not know if they're wearing these. They changed their Twitter header to that symbol. So I was... So probably. Either way, give them to, give me the Broncos tonight. They want to put on a show. You know, they understand what's at stake here. Okay, this is prime time. We got a chance to look really cool.

We saw what the Steelers did a few primetime games ago. Let's not do that. Okay, let's look sweet out here. And let's enjoy and celebrate the hell out of the football environment that we have. Much like you, AJ, I feel the exact same way. There was a stat, though. There was some stat I heard about something. Yeah, the Broncos have not won a division prime time game since 2017. They've lost 10 straight to division opponents in primetime.

And also just keep in mind, we do think the Jags are good. And, you know, with Brock Bowers back, the Rangers are, they didn't look like shit. I mean, I let it off with. I think Pete Carroll sucks, which I do. But at this stage, Pete Carroll was a good. obviously very good with CIC Oaks once in Super Bowl. U.S.U.S.U.S. pretty good, but they did

strip of that shooting. I mean, do you believe this is too many points for a divisional game? That's in the back of my mind. I'm not going to lie. It's in the back of my head. All right. Plus nine and a half. Give me the Raiders. No way.

Broncos. That's a lot. I'm not doing it. About points in the division, though. That is. That is a lot of points in the division. But look at the numbers that Hembo Center were about sacrifice.

in fucking how much they sack. Yeah, does that include when Patrick Stertains playing? But what are the numbers just from last week? We need more numbers, we're saying. That's just the classic stats thing. There's always stats. They almost just lost to doggie bills, to be fair. Well, that's what I'm saying.

It's go football. Almost lost to Jackson Dart and the Giants. Like, the Broncos have a good record. They haven't been smacking people around. Oh, it feels like I'm starting to get a hint of. Yeah. I saw Bruce do a fool when I go away from the raid. Obviously, you got some stats drop here.

Gumpy sounds like he is cemented on it. He hates with the passion of a thousand sons, Sean Paden. Why? He does. He does. He's not my cup of tea. To be fair to Gumpy as well, by far, and this was kind of out of nowhere, the Broncos fan base is one of the most insufferable on the internet.

I had no idea. I had no idea. Most disrespectful team. Oh, we all. also have a six-game win streak. It's like, all right. Oh, you're talking about the post that you copy and pasted, yeah. Somebody else did the stat and you copy and paste.

He said, is that right? And then they came after you. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure which one you're talking about. You put a Drake-Maced out in an or a Patriot stat. I think it was leading the league in passing touchdowns maybe. Yeah, then also, yeah, it was something.

And then everybody's like, well, actually this stat's wrong. This stat's wrong. Oh, no. Okay, no. So it was from Overreaction Monday. It was when I said they had the longest winning streak in the NFL with six games and all the Broncos fans are like oh that's not true we got six games so they're okay they're tied for the longest win streak in the NFL with the Broncos and now all this other

stuff because the chiefs are still the favorites to make it out of the east blah blah the chargers all this stuff and you know the Broncos the team itself haven't really heard much like hey we feel disrespected but boy these fucking fans they are the worst marks in the league no they're passionate they love the Broncos I love it remember Bronco Country Let's ride They've been through it bro Brock Osweiler

I mean There's a quarterback He paid him a lot of money Yeah Paxton Lynch Drafted him high I thought he was going to be a guy Yeah we all did 7 5 have been through it more than the Colts

Tell you that much Cool I tell you what Colts started going through We're paying just one over there And he just broke every record And won a Super Bowl Yeah he was really good over there He still had it appeared.

But boy, you would think this is the first time the Broncos have been good in 200 years. Give me the Raiders plus nine and a half? Fuck yeah. Okay. Wow. Universe ball right now. Go back.

Let's take the Broncos, yeah. I think the Broncos. Okay. I mean, that just, let's see, here. I didn't really give that one a good go. Dear football God. please direct me to the pick this will be for the Raiders plus nine and a half oh that's a shame give me the Broncos yeah all right big time Broncos mine saying that football god

spoke to me there lights camera maxion AJ I don't know if you saw this I did I like that they sent it over it's pretty cool looking you know because it's like sloppy but you can read it you know. So it's pretty cool. It's super artsy. That's Maxen, baby. They took a picture, I think the Mac conference, and posted it, and I'm mid-blank. Thank you. Thank you, guys. That he's Macon. Yeah, it is. That's Maxion football. And, all right, we're going to get out of here. We're going to interview with Matt Rule. We're going to run from earlier today. Obviously, we ran out of time in the field of beat hour because, I mean, when you're talking to Mike Elko for the first time all season, you got questions. Yeah, you do. Ryan Day, we've got to let him

No, his team is the best team that's that we've ever seen. 80% completion percentage for that quarterback. Holy hell, defense, historic. You guys are the best of all time. Maybe you stop playing. Just take the trophy now. Just why do we even do it? Stop, stop.

He was getting. I'm out here. I'm out here. I'm out here. I'm out. He literally got up to get out like it was when Coach Lou Holtz came in. Yeah. When Ty Lou walked in.

And then Rhett Lashley? That was cool to chit-chat with him. What if they do go on a run here at the end of the year and go to the ACC championship? It's almost like we maybe knew what was going to happen. That's good shit We love football We can't wait to watch tonight Be your friend tell her friends

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Team on me Team on three One two three Team Goodbye The head coach Of the Nebraska Cornhuskers, Matt

Lou! Hey, Coach. All right, Coach. Well, what's up? Fellas, what's up? Hey, everything over here is on the up and up, and we obviously send our positive thoughts and vibes to Dylan and

everything you got going on. Fresh out of a surgery, I do believe. As a coach, kind of, how do you handle this week for your team? Obviously, massive devastating injury, massive, I don't want to keep piling on, but loss here in the big It's like how do you handle this week with your team as the leader of men who still have games left

and also still have a lot to prove not only to yourselves, but the fan base, if that makes sense. Yeah, no, I think it's a great question, man. I mean, it's like you get into coaching and you want to have all these amazing moments. But these are the moments where you like earn your stripes, right, where you prove what you can do and you have to do a great job for your team. And so instead of, you know, feeling it being in your own feelings, I think you have to really think about your guys. And so first, you got Dylan, devastating news.

I mean, you know, you sit there, you think he's going to spray in his ankle. You know, he wants to go. He's out there. He's trying to hobble around. I said, you know, I said, buddy, listen, I love you too much to put you out here when you can't move. Get back home after the game, Pat, and they say, hey, you know, guess what he broke his fibula? I mean, like, just the toughness of that kid to want to go out there and play.

So you're devastated for him. You're devastated for your team. You know, we were in a great position. We had the lead. you know, credit to the USC, they made the plays down the stretch. And then you wake up the next morning and you have to tell the guys, like, hey, I know how disappointed you are. I know how much you put into this. But as a team, we have to rally around TJ because he's an excellent young quarterback and he's going to have his first college start as a freshman going back home to L.A., playing a hot, hot UCLA team coming off a bye.

And you know what? We all have to be great teammates, man. We all have to just do a little bit more. We can't ask T.J. to shoulder more than just, hey, just go play quarter. and have everyone else, the defense, the receivers, the O-line, and the coaches, we all have to do a little bit more. You talk about going back to UCLA, and obviously everything you just said there is spoken like a great leader, which obviously you are in our T's and P's to Dillon, and also hearing that it's a broken fibula and then him wanting to play through it, like, hell yeah, dude, that is football, that stuff, this quarterbacks have to show that,

and there's a lot that don't, so I respect the hell out of him for that. You talk about the young quarterback going back to L.A. for his first start. You guys are, and I know you don't pay attention to this, but I'm going to give you a heads up. You guys go from having everything in front of you to now underdogs against UCLA in L.A. How do you handle the travel? Because USC's first win over 1,000 miles of travel was this past weekend. How do you handle the travel? How do you handle all the conversation?

And now you guys are literally the hunters as opposed to hunted with the underdogs to UCLA. Yeah, you know, one of the things I said this week. in our press conference, and I mean it, like, if you want to be taken seriously nationally, if you want to, like, you know, we're a two-loss team last week, and we're not in the top 25, and other teams are. So if you want to, if you want to gain the respect of the country, then you need moments like this and you need to come through. You know, you need to go on the road with a freshman quarterback, underdogs, everyone counting you out, everyone saying, well, that was a good game last week. I mean, you know, last week we held USC's high power offense to their lowest totals in a long time.

And so there was a lot of good things that happened, even though the scoreboard didn't go out our way. And so you can just walk away and be disappointed and kind of write the season off. And that would be pretty average. That would be like what we've kind of been like here for a long time. And so to me, we have an unbelievable opportunity to kind of change the narrative to begin to show tremendous respect for ourselves. And once you respect yourself and start standing up for yourself, then people around you start to do it. Then nationally you start to do it. So I've told us, I've told everyone around us.

Like, either you're with us or you're not. Like, I'm with TJ. My goal this week is the head coach is to be the best coach I can be for this freshman quarterback and for these guys that bust their tails for me. Make it all about our players. Don't make it about ourselves. And I'm expecting the fans that show up. I'm expecting the people that support us and love us.

They'll do the same. And this is a chance for Husker Nation to rise up. And you know what? It won't get us in the CFP, Pat. You know, I mean, that's, you know, we lost by three to Michigan. We lost by four. So we'll have to chase those in the off season. But right now, that's the same.

time to stand up for ourselves and go fight for what we want. Yeah, there's still a lot that is possible for a team that is trying to build a program back to the greatness that it was, and I'm excited to watch you do that. You have a running back that I assume you will definitely be feeding it. I got to meet at a W.W.E. event, so much moxie, so much swag. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, obviously with T.J. Lateef coming in, who is a true freshman, it would be nice to have an incredible running back, and you do in Emmett Johnson. He's already over 1,000 yards for the season. I believe he's going for a top 5, top 10 historic

rushing season in Nebraska history, which is insane. How nice is it going to be to have him just in the backfield to rely on with a true freshman quarterback next to him? Absolutely. I mean, I think he's one of two people in the country to be over 1,000 yards rushing. You know, this is this is this is this this guy's an unbelievable example of what we're trying to do. You know, he shared time last year.

He was a rotational player. And instead of leaving, you know, he just kind of hung in there, hung in there. And now he's gotten his opportunity. And, you know, I've yet to see the first guy tackle him. I mean, he's unbelievable. Great vision. Can catch the ball. But unbelievable in terms of making people miss and fighting for extra yards.

And so that's kind of what I was saying about TJ. Like, hey, everybody just do a little bit more. TJ, you just do your job. But Emmett, go do a little bit more, which he will. Nysia, Jacori. All these great players that we have, they're all going to do just a little bit more take the strain off of the young guy. I love EMoney and Riala's relationship.

I like their handshake there at the WWE event. They were having a good time. Feels like the culture is in place for a while. Although this year, you know, maybe not a national championship here, feels like you're sitting a foundation. And E-Money is certainly a guy for that. Now, what's the rest of the season look like for Nebraska? Well, Iowa Hawkeyes, Ty Schmidt, has a question for you.

Yeah, coach, is it weird being in a situation now with the way, like, the playoff is set up? We're obviously at this point, you know, like playing spoiler, that's what it's all about going down the stretch. but on the same token, you're also in, it kind of incentivized if teams in the Big Ten make it to the college football playoff. Obviously, you know, we know the revenue share. Like, I mean, I guess, you know, obviously you're trying to win. You're not trying to lose. But is it kind of weird that that is a reality, kind of like a six, seven, you know, situation where you want to play spoiler.

But if the Big Ten gets four teams in, obviously you guys will reap the benefit of that as well. Fascinating. Yeah, I care about. no one else other than us, man. I will last week. And, and, you know what? And honestly, I think, I think, you know, you're always going to hear me say, I think the big 10 teams of two losses are under underappreciated, you know, I agree. I think Iowa's having a heck of a season. I think SCs having a heck of a season and many more. So Michigan is at seven and two. So I, I look forward to, you know, I look forward to every game that we have a chance to play. And that's kind of what I said

before like you know what like we got to get in Nebraska where nationally like we're we're respected and not just kind of dismissed and so we have to win every game that we play and um but I do think I do think uh there's some really good teams in the big 10 and we deserve four in and you know what it's kind of crazy when you look at it right now you look at the rankings like this team's really right high but they still have to play these guys like so many teams have to play each other and it'll be really interesting following the CFP rankings as we go down the stretch yeah Tuesday was the first one, and obviously there's a little bias, they say, you know, in the South. And then the Big Ten has the back-to-back national champs.

If they were to get that again, how will that conversation dive into it? And then obviously last year, SEC travels up to Big Ten, Tennessee travels up to play against Ohio State, who had two losses. High State had two losses. Tennessee had a couple losses. And we all know how that went in the ice cold. So there's going to be a lot of chatter around who gets in and who doesn't get in. But the Big Ten, to your point, Coach Rule. I don't feel like it gets as much respect.

And will it next year? Will it the year after that? How long does it take? And will that be the Nebraska Cornhuskers job next year to become the Stallions that people have been talking about in the Big Ten? Ty says no. Just know that. And he asked you that question because, you know,

Iowa beats Oregon this weekend. And then obviously some other stuff happened. You guys in Iowa last game of the season, Ty's like, hey, for the good of the Big Ten. Just did it. For the good of the Big Ten? That's what Iowa is pitching, you know. But it is very, the 12-team playoff, obviously better.

More teams have a chance. But now it's like, well, how do they view the teams that deserve the chances? And it's like, man, college football is never going to be able to get it right. I mean, it's never going to be able to get 100% right. But it's a beautiful thing. Conman has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach, the coach that comes in the office into the Thunderdome every week, Bruce Ariens always says no risket, no biscuit.

And when you're going up against an interim head coach, it feels like there's no other coach that is probably risking it more because why not? Because of that, when it comes to game planning for a team like UCLA, do you legitimately have to go over all the trick plays, all the type of shit that they could pull? And on the opposite end of that, similar to, you know, Ty saying, you know, playing spoiler, are you guys now just open up the playbook? Hey, let's think of everything and anything,

because at this point, let's just go out there and get the victory. Yeah, you know, I think, well, I think every week, you know, you're going to do everything you think, you know, you need to do to win the game. What they've done is, you know, they've, they've, they've faked three punts. I mean, they're faking punts against punt safe. Yes. They've opened up the playbook.

They've unleashed, you know, I think, I think Nico's a tremendous quarterback, and they've unleashed him. He's running all over the place. And they're coming off a buy, you know, so USC was coming off a buy. They had two weeks to study us. UCLA's coming off a buy. And so, you know, as a coach, you just tell the guy, it's like, hey, we have to be alert for everything.

And you can't play afraid. You can't play scared. But you do have to say to yourself, like, hey, we need to have our eyes on our key. Everybody has to be, like, locked in and focused at all times. And then we just know, I mean, like I said, Niko's one of the best quarterbacks in college football, I believe. If you watch what he's done, especially in this run, he's been amazing. And a lot of it he's done running.

He's their leading rusher. And so we are going to have to, have to, have to account for him at every turn. Nico broke three helmets against Ohio State. Yeah. Three helmets. Now, obviously, they lost, and it wasn't his best game. But he was getting dumped into the frozen and getting right back up. Like nobody was really talking about this offseason

with how everything went with Nico's story and the NIL transfer portal, we want this, we want this, we go back to UCLA, UCLA starts how it goes. Everybody's like kind of burying him, burying him, burying him in his situation. It's like we watched him up close and personal take some. I mean, absolute shots and get right back up.

So I got immense respect for him. I'm happy to hear you say the same thing. He's tough. Nico's much tougher, I think, than anybody gives him credit for. Yeah, when he's running, he's not sliding. He's not running out of bounds. He plays the game like a warrior. He's an elite competitor.

And I think sometimes we talk about quarterbacks. We talk about everything else. But I think there's something really to that. You know, guys will follow a quarterback, a leader who goes out there, whether it's Dylan trying to play on a broken leg, whether it's Nico not sliding. You're going to play for guys like that. You're going to sacrifice for guys like that. And so I respect the heck out of them.

And so our guys understand, like, we have to treat him like a tailback. He's not a quarterback. He's a tailback when he runs and he's got great speed. And again, he's their leading rusher. So it'll be a major factor in our ballgame. Cannot wait to watch you guys execute. Good luck this weekend against UCLA. I'm heading down to Lubbock, Texas for the first time in my life.

What should I be expecting down there? I know you got a little history, a little big 12 history. Well, you know, I was the one. You know, many coaches tried and I was the, why was the only guy that was able to get Joey McGuire to leave high school coaching and came and worked for me at Baylor? I met him at an I-hop. And he was like, who's this guy from New York? And by the time we were done, man, we were brothers.

And he's one of the great, great, great coaches of Lubbock's a cool town. There's going to be all kinds of, there's going to be great vibes everywhere. You're going to love when the game starts just don't get hit by a tortilla, you know. Oh, they banned those, coach. They banned the tortilla. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure on national TV, the guys aren't going to let one fly.

But I'll tell you what, man. Like, he is, he is, you know, sometimes to meet people on. they're so positive, and they're so engaging. You're like, is this guy, he really is. Like, my kids used to walk into building, Pat, and they would go see Coach Jojo before they came and saw me because he has more juice than I got. So he's one of the best of the best men.

I'm so happy to see him. And then, you know, Kalani Sataki is one of the good guys in coaching. So, like, this is two guys that I respect immensely. So it'll be a great, great ball game. Hey, the Big 12's hot, right? I mean, there is. The Big 12's got a lot of shit brewing over there, you know? obviously Cincinnati loses to Utah,

but Utah, BYU might be the Big 12 championship game, and then Texas Tech's like, excuse me, we're also in this thing. The Big 12 is cooking right now, and it's a special time in BYU, Texas Tech. There's been people camping out since Monday to get into that game. They're camping out there since Monday. This is a huge, huge, huge game down there.

And I think this is what the future is for Texas Tech coach. They got money. They got a lot of, they got backers. So I think that's, hey, we're good for the future, right? Isn't that kind of how we should be looking at this, especially with Joey McGuire? What's your thoughts on him? Absolutely. Joey's a guy, you know, he's in the Texas high school coaches Hall of Fame. So he'll always be able to go mine all the small towns and find the unearth gems.

And now, because of the commitment they've made financially, they can also go get the best players in the portal nationally. They can get five-star kids nationally. So there'll be a great combination of elite, elite, elite, recruited talent. But also, Joey's going to go find those guys from those small towns that, you know, that maybe are under-served, under-noticed, and someone will call Joey. He's just the right person to go out there to West Texas. And he's going to have that mindset, that brand that they have out there in West Texas. They're going to play football that way.

They'll be exciting. They'll be Texas Tech. But they play defense and they're physical. So he'll do a great job there for a long time. Yeah, I'm excited to get down there and witness it and watch it and experience it. You know, I learned about Elma, Texas through the Big Green. That's right. I think we're going to be down there.

We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach in Nebraska. Good luck, bro. We appreciate you. Appreciate you guys.