The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1451 - Thursday Night Football Preview, Heather Dinich, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Jets and Patriots, and wonder if this game is going to be a national spotlight for the Patriots officially being back. Joining the show to discuss the breaking news that CFP chair Mack Rhoades has stepped down and what implications that carries/what comes next is ESPN College Football reporter/insider, Heather Dinich. Later, Super Bowl Champion, former Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys, Mike McCarthy joins the progrum to preview tonight’s TNF game, chat about managing rookies at this point in the season, his thoughts on the MVP race, the Monday Night game between the Eagles and Packers, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the thunderdown. On this NFL week 11 kickoff Thursday, November 13, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It's happening tonight. Week 11 of the NFL season will kick off. An AFC East battle will be happening in Foxborough, Massachusetts at 39 degrees. 3% chance of rain, but somehow the Patriots will control that weather. their favor as they are 12 and a half point favorites hosting this New York Jets team who might have found something in the last couple weeks. They've got some big wins in the AFC North

against Cincinnati and Cleveland. Now they have the New England Patriots who have the odds-on favorite for the MVP a quarterback, a second year sensation out of North Carolina who's leading a Patriot squad who has a new Supreme Commander and Mike Vrable who has really taken on the image of this man. They are young. They are hungry. They are electrifying. They And they might win the Super Bowl. And on that note, the New England Patriots fans are saying, well, guess who's back back again? It is them tell a friend.

Tonight should be electrifying for Drake May in primetime in New England for the first time as the odds-on favorite to be the MVP. I think what you're going to see from Patriots fans tonight is going to be a show. I think it is going to be a very difficult place to play. I think this New York Jets team, obviously finding their way with Aaron Glenn as the head coach. we've seen them have some success. I think they're walking into a buzzsaw. And I'm not the only one.

Obviously, you saw the percentage of bets that are being placed on the Patriots minus 12 and a half. Almost 60% of the people are seeing it the same way, even though 12.5 points is a lot of points for a division matchup. I think tonight's one of those buzz saws. I've been there.

I've actually been on a sideline on one of these. And boy, when it gets going up there, those masholes have weapons as lips. and they are good and they have reason to be as such here's the tale of the tape for the offense and defensive rankings

pass offense worst ever right there this one bar none worst ever might of all time I mean we haven't started doing those stats but I know that without one catch last week which is hard to say but it was a check we saw

it was just a little throw screen over here not even a screen really because you didn't have to get over anybody it was just like it was just it wasn't even to the flat I mean it was just six-yard. Steaden head off. There it is right here. Aside from this, there was like 12 yards of passing for the New York

Jets. And then obviously you go all the way back to like the early part of the season right before halftime. They potentially could go drive and Aaron Glenn, new head coach is getting everything questioned. He's like, well, yeah, right, we've thrown for six yards this half. You think we're going to open this thing up and try to go into half at a

deficit? So they certainly have a passing deficit for the New York Jets offense as a whole, but they have a go wrong game. Okay, they have a go wrong game. They're able to get going. Defense started showing some signs of life. They have the fourth over rush offense, 28th total offense, eighth pass defense, 25th rush defense, and the 19th total defense.

And then you look at his Patriots team. That's Stefan Diggs, you see, right there over Drake May's shoulder. He's bought in completely. All in. Don't need a ball every play. Everywhere we've seen him at the end, we always wonder if he wasn't getting the ball enough. Is that why he's pissed? Is that why he's moving on?

At the Patriots with Mike Vrable, he's just bought in. He's on a hands team. He's on hands team. He's jumping up, exposing himself like this at the very end of a game, knowing that he's going to get absolutely rocked there for this Patriots team. So when you talk about buy-in, you're talking about what happens on that play and what we've seen all season with this Patriots team. It's going to be a special night, I do believe,

as they, New England folk, are going to get a chance to celebrate maybe the next dynasty up there. The Toxic Table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. Everything I just said there, I've been living alongside you experiencing it as a Patriots fan. Had a couple rough years. Oh, yeah. Had a couple of rough years. Brutal. Yeah, well, it was pretty brutal there. You know, at the end, you guys had a defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator, and you had a special teams coach as a

quarterback coach, and then obviously there was an ugly breakup, and then there was a hiring of an ex-player. This guy's the guy. Doesn't go good at all. Fire him. New coach comes in. Are you wasting a young quarterback? And then now, here we are. You have the MVP favorite of quarterback. Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, who's obviously had all the success in the NFL at offense coordinator, doesn't want to be a head coach anymore.

I've done that a couple of times. I don't like that life. My family really enjoy living up here. And we have this guy as our quarterback. You got Mike Vrable who can call home there forever. Okay. You got Drake who could play, he's 23 or something like that. Play literally for another 20 years.

Like he can actually play for another 20 years of football. You guys are just living high life. And tonight is maybe a primetime celebration that we're back. Is that kind of a good way to view tonight? Yeah, for sure. I mean, like you said, I've been saying this for a little bit, but hearing you say it does mean more, hearing you say that Drake May is an MVP frontrunner and that that is a real thing right now in the world is just absurd. Yeah, tonight is going to be one of those nights where, yeah, we're back, okay?

Right now, if we win tonight, we will move into the one seed. Now, that might only last till Sunday, but the culture on a biweek. So if the Broncos were to lose, then yes, we will be the one seed the entire week next week. I don't know if you guys want to see that. I don't know if I want to see that, honestly. I might get a little bit too big for my boat, if you will. But one of the things, too, for tonight. Need a bigger boat.

Exactly. One of the things tonight, you know, debut in New Jersey's. They're so sick. The nor'easters, yeah. It's this color, storm blue. It's true time about controlling the weather. Look at the video. Look at the video for it.

That's what we're doing tonight. Straight out of Glouc's. Yeah, exactly. It's hard hats. It's Gloucda. It's everything that's right in Massachusetts. It's Gloucesta, one of the most. Can you get to it?

iconic towns, boom, there it is. And you mentioned Stefan Diggs. Darius Butler came in here and he said on Monday, holy shit, Stefan Diggs is just as good as he was three years ago. The fact that there was a conversation about him not being the same guy, this offseason was crazy.

But no, it is one of those things. Hey, I don't want to say anything. I don't want to jinx anything. I don't believe in that. And also, I think it's more so of a take your pick night. Mike Vrable will pull his pants down. It's going to be a take your pick. Piss or poop? You know, which one do you want, Jets? You want to piss on you, you want to poop on you. You think you guys are going to kill the Jets.

Yeah, I think it's going to be a blow it. I love the under pick, rather. I heard Gumpy say under. I love that. The over under is 43 and a half. I'm looking at 42 nothing. I don't see any other reason to believe anything else. The only thing the Jets can do is run the football. The best part of our dominant team, really, not just defense, not just offense. The best part of our team is our run defense, without a doubt. The number one in the league, that's cool. But just when you watch it, they are suffocating. Yeah, you see, it says number one. That's cool.

It signifies they're better than everybody else. But when you actually watch it, you see, it is problematic. I mean, you are not moving at all. Vrable defense feels like he's just a hard-nosed, tough defense. Doesn't get talked about a lot. No. Drake obviously talked about a lot. Vrable talked about a lot.

I mean, you go through everything that we just rattled off. Defense is not really getting chatted about. Lockdown Island Corner. Okay, problematic. Christian Gonzalez. In the number one rush defense, is this just what's to be expected because Vrable is here, or what is your kind of your thoughts of that? That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking when you

talk about teams, like, let's go to the Lions. The Lions built their team in the trenches. That is kind of very similar to what I think Vrable will do, except instead of the Aiden Hutchinson outside pass rusher, I think it is more of a focal point in the middle. Milton Williams, we gave him the highest contract

in the history of the New England Patriots. It's an incredible. Chris Tonga will be a guy to watch tonight D-Line. He's also playing fullback and, again, need to just say this too. Bob Spillane is my favorite player to watch on Sundays. Watch Bob Spillane and what he does on the football field, but yeah, going to the coach of the year odds, it speaks

for themselves, you know? Like, look at the top of that list. Again, it is surreal that this is a reality that we are living in, that we get to talk about the Patriots like this, but Rabel leading the way, Coach Stuyken, just as deserving, Coach McDonald just as deserving. Unbelievable work up there. All three

of those guys could be plus a hundred. And Ben, I guess either. Yeah, absolutely. with what the bear i mean because they were shite and you know president trump brought it up you got some really good leaders with really good strategy as head coaches of nfl teams i'm not joke i'd take a couple of those guys get some more strategy listening from we got some really good coaches right now it's awesome that's why you know a couple openings uh right now already some odds are coming out on these coaching job interesting right now um new york giants odds on favorites become the next head coach there big mike mccars really coach mike you know with a jersey swap here that's what he's

would obviously look like in the New York Football Giants blew up there. A lot of young talent, and I will say this about the New York Football Giants. They're an entertaining team. They are an entertaining team. They got talent, and they got Moxie. James Winston had his first press conference

as the starting quarterback of the New York Giants, and yes, it did exactly what we hoped it would do. It lit up everybody's lives. Do you want fans to know about you? I want fans to know that. I'm going to do my best. Obviously, I'm going to have fun, but I'm going to execute, have a surgical execution, and just play ball, man. Like, this is something I've been doing since I've been four years old.

And I just get to do it in the greatest city in the world. I'm going to be saying it with my son, it's the greatest city in the world. Yeah, that's a Hamilton reference, if y'all don't know. Nobody in that room, 10-year reunion coming up. Nobody ever saw Hamilton in that room. I'm cultured. Saw it a couple different times. And, you know, his name is Alexander Hamilton.

What a fucking show. Good Pikes. Have you ever seen it? No, I've only seen parts on Disney Plus. Okay, so I listen to this, like the soundtrack. What's his name, very talented guy? Lynn Manuel Miranda. Love is working Moana.

Okay, absolutely love is working Moana. We've been watching a lot of that with McKenzie. And then Hamilton, unbelievable. Now, there's some people that say you should do more. history than just watch Hamilton, but it feels like I kind of got it under control. I'm watching Hamilton a couple of different times. James immediately jumping full bore into the city that he's in. I can't wait.

If he gets a win, okay, and I think it's going to be tough, obviously. But if he gets a win, the amount of shit that's going to be coming out after he's been sitting on all this, okay? He knew that there was going to be a Hamilton reference in that first press conference three months ago. Yep. Now he's been sitting on stuff all season. And it's not just James that is electrifying.

and I know he's not playing right now but Scataboo took to some streaming and he certainly gave a take as well that perfectly indicates the type of human that Scataboo is. Do you like turn your head to eat a taco or do you

turn the taco for you? Like are you dominant to the taco or does a taco, like do you turn your head for the taco? That's a good question. Why? It's about, the dominance of the taco though like if you're not if you're turning the taco you're dominating

the taco you see so good point you want to pop it to the taco if you're doing this number or are you making the taco yours and are you house in that thing like this it's all about a mindset it's all about a mentality it's all about dominance that guy's going to be back we assume obviously nasty interview that's from scat pack with a four is an a on his twitch sure i assume that's going to be very entertaining. But he is exactly who we think he is in all aspects of his life, Ty. Yeah, he's the best. And, you know, it just kind of sucks that that is the kind of stuff that we have to resort to because he got hurt because we were getting just highlight after highlight after highlight this season. And now we're checking in and saying, hey, what kind of tacos are he is.

No, how's he eaten tacos? He's not even soft. I didn't see the whole thing. Oh, you think it's hard tacos only? Yeah, because you don't have to turn a soft. He strikes me as a hard shell guy. I don't think he's a soft shell guy. He strikes me. Well, actually, he might be like a case Dorito guy. He might be taking a hard shell. He's going to eat. Dominating it. Exactly. Rapping that thing up. Doing it his way. But yeah, I mean, it's just

he's the best. The Giants quietly, you know, it's unfortunate that they are where they're at right now because they do have like three to four of like the most entertaining, likable people in the league. On that note, Malik Neighbors, Superstar Wide Receiver of the New York Giants, he posted this on his IG

story. Okay, Father, I'm darting off to pursue my educational prowess. Okay, son. Don't dilly-dally. I'll be home late. It's my bridge night. I'll see you later. Bye. Yo, what's up, B? How you feel? So what we're saying is the Giants head coaching job is open. Uh-huh.

Okay? Mike McCarthy's name is the odds on favorite. We will talk to him next hour. His name is going to come up for a lot of these jobs because of how accomplished he is. And frankly, after we started talking to him, you could see how he would be able to walk into an interview and win it. because not only the depth of the shit that he says, the motivation, the leadership, but obviously the amount of ball knowledge that he has, and I think he can relate to any generation. So I think he's going to be a favorite for a lot of these jobs

if he is interested in jobs. So we're not going to, I'm not going to let him lose any leverage. So I'm not just going to say, hey, your odds-on favor for the Giants. You want to do this? I will certainly not do that and put him in that type of situation. But we will certainly ask him about him becoming the odds-on-favor for a lot of these jobs in the next hour to kind of see where he's at with it all?

because does he want to coach? You know, does he want to go? We assume yes. Yeah. Does he want to hold out for a better opportunity that may come, you know, in six weeks or eight weeks? What? That's one half of the hammer.

Done. Cowboys, AP Tone from Plumbarrow, Pennsylvania. East Hills of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You were saying hometown, that's where, hey, Mike McAarthy's Pittsburgh guy. I just figured that's what Ty was referencing, getting to holding out to see, like, what happens with that situation.

If the wheels fall off of that situation, who knows what happened. That won't happen. We know that with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I think he was actually not referring to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I wasn't. He is from Pittsburgh, but he lives in Dork County. You know, we've been to the barn.

I'm not saying, hey, listen, a lot of season left. A lot of season left. But let's just see what happens here. Let's not just anoint Big Mike, the head coach of the Giants right now. By the way, just had to get us out there in Canto, also written by Lynn Manuel Miranda. Awesome. What is it? It's an animated Disney movie.

Just like Moana. Okay, I will be in. The songs are... Yeah, I'll tell you, I didn't watch any Disney movies growing up. Mighty Ducks is at Disney? I believe so, yeah. Okay, I watched Mighty Ducks. Sure.

You're talking about cartoons. Yeah, I didn't watch any of the other stuff. Just ADD didn't get to do it. My wife thinks that's potentially why I didn't develop fully some of the emotions. Sure. You know, because, you know, I didn't go through the entire sad, super sad, the whole thing. Mighty Ducks is sad. It is?

Yeah. That's what I argued. But then I watched, you know, Lion King with my daughter, and it is a little, different levels of sat, especially at different ages. These animated movies are incredible. Like, so well done. I highly recommend it. Oh, Coco.

Oh, geez. Now I'm just going to go over my head. There's a new one called Twits. There was this caveman one a couple months ago. I mean, it is. Sing. It's so, sing is so good. I was watching, we were watching Sing as we were putting Big Night Out together. I literally felt like I was in the movie because that's all he's trying to do is put together a show at a theater that he's trying to save and he has to do a deal.

and it's like, I'm watching this guy. I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm actually taking notes on that. Who are we talking to? How are we? That's a good idea. Sing two's on Peacoff. You got to leave Netflix, but sing two, peacock, just as good. Okay, I assume it is.

Yeah, the animated people, I know how long that all takes. Incredible work. A ton of money, too. As soon as McKenzie sees it, she's just like, she's listening. Is it a song good? Yeah, okay. If it's ass, she's out. And we got to kind of move on.

It's a good song with, I think, Lynn, Manuel, Miranda. He's throwing here. Very early in all these things. All right. Speaking of heat, there's some down in Baylor. Okay, there was a story that was released by Outkick that basically lays out a couple of situations that happened around the Baylor Arizona State game

where the AD Mac Roads, right before the Baylor offense went on the field for their first series, allegedly what Outkick is reporting, Mac Roads walked up to Mike Trigg, who's the tight end of the Baylor team, and he had a yellow long sleeves on underneath his black jersey.

And in the article for Mount Kick, it says that he had that on to cover up a brace that was on his shoulder because he was hurt. So basically that's why he was wearing it. The AD did not know that, obviously, at the time, or did, didn't care. Allegedly walks up to Michael Trick, grabs him and says, why are you wearing a yellow long sleeve? Like, not happy that that is how he is dressed for the game for Baylor. Like, it was an intense interaction is what people said numerous sources on the sideline that were not to be named because they were wearing.

worried for any back, yada, yada, yada. Then after the game, there was a situation again where tight end, Michael Trigg, and another coach were meeting with their family. And Mac Rhodes, allegedly, this is via the outkick thing, this is what's being reported. He walks up to the coach, grabs him by the arm and, like, the neck area, and asks him why he was wearing a yellow long sleeve. So still stewing on it, basically. So this got reported. Now, there's an investigation happening in Baylor because it's a verbal and a physical altercation is how it's being described. Mack Rhodes, head, chair, the one speaking for the group of the CFP committee, the college football playoff committee. So he steps down amid investigation happening

at Baylor. So obviously, Baylor will run its investigation. We just told you everything that Outkick had reported that it happened there. Now we're going to tell you what happens next for the college football playoff committee. This feels like a pretty important piece of the puzzle, especially as we're already a couple weeks into the CFP committee doing their rankings. Joining us now is a college football analyst and insider. A who, who, who, Hoosiers fan and Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dinnich. Heather.

Heather, how you doing? Hey, guys. I'm good. I'm good. Okay, so everything happening at Baylor, I don't know if you have any more information on that. This seemingly came out of nowhere this morning for a lot of people, but we definitely want to talk about the CFP situation. now. So is a chair open there?

Like, how does this kind of work from the college football playoff standpoint since the top person steps down in the middle of a season, Heather? Yes, that's right. The chair is open and the most likely scenario at this point is that they will replace roads and they

would replace him with a Big 12 athletic director because that's what he was. So the most likely thing is that they're going to get somebody who has done this before as well. So I would expect a former committee member to rejoin the group from the big 12. And Baylor did confirm to ESPN today that they received allegations on Monday involving roads, but that does not include anything

about Title IX student welfare NCAA and does not involve the football program. That's what we know right now. We're continuing to report the story. So what's going to happen is the CFP is going to replace that seat, the seat of the chair, and they've got to do it really quickly. And what will happen is a Big 12 commissioner will nominate somebody. Oh, man. I thought we're going to be able to get, you know, well, not Herb Street in there because he's SEC SP. Yeah, no way. I thought maybe we're going to get Nick Saving in there. Maybe Des, Des going in there with the electrifying. We didn't know if we're going to be able to start pitching names. Otter guy. Maybe Stanford Steve in there.

St. Stephen needs to be in there. Can we slap an athletic director title before that? Is it going to have to be an athletic director? Are those the rules? Who are the people that can be on the committee? And who currently makes up the committee, Heather? Yeah, it's an eye for an iPad. So it's going to be a Big 12 AD. And my guess is it would be somebody like Mark Harlan at Utah who's been on there before

or Gene Taylor from K State. Kirby Hokat, the Texas Tech AD has been the committee chair before but I would be surprised if it would be him because they're so involved in the college football playoff right now he would definitely have to recuse himself from basically everything

so I think it would probably be Harlan or maybe Gene Taylor those are probably the two most likely names to be considered and who's on the committee? It's sitting athletic directors, my former colleague Ivan Maisel at ESPN you have to be a retired member of the media, though.

So I'm sorry to burst your bubble. You've got to be retired a media member to get. Des would have been awesome. I would just like to let everybody know that Desmond Howard would have been amazing in those meetings. He is electrifying in there. Reese Davis, obviously, he does the interview with the chair immediately afterwards.

How does that whole thing work? Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Heather. So does the Big 12 AD that's going to come in, do they become the chair? Or does someone else from the committee move up to the chair position that will speak to Reese each week and obviously be the face of the committee. Yeah, the commissioners have to decide that. It could absolutely just be the new person

comes in and they are the voice of the CFP or they could have somebody else in the room take that position. And remember, these are three-year terms. And to be fair, we don't know what is going to happen with Mack Rhodes. I mean, he could come back eventually. I don't want to judge or draw any conclusions as to how long he'll be gone. But we already had this happen last month. Randall McDaniel stepped down for personal reasons as well. Usually it's a 13 member committee. Then it was at 12. Now it's at 11. So definitely some holes to fill in the room. Yeah, it sounds like a three-year term. So this will be an interim chair, whoever comes in there. I would assume you would vote from within because you've been there since the beginning. New party

coming in, got to get caught up. Don't know if they should be speaking, but could also get a fresh voice in there. Yeah, I'm hearing it for the first time, kind of how we're looking at it. I guess they could kind of take it anyway. Who will be the next person to hang their white hat and walk into that meeting and decide which college football programs have a shot at winning it all? That's a hard job. That's a lot of pressure. I hope they get it right. Heather, we appreciate you joining us on such quick turnaround. Thanks, guys. Go Steelers. Hey, game day is going to be in Pittsburgh this weekend. I think it should be pretty electrifying. You're gone to my city, man. I hope the bird is so much fun. I'm jealous. I hope you guys have

so much fun. From my understanding, it's not just pit people that are going to be, I think a lot of Pittsburgh, I think Pittsburgh's coming. I think like it's going to be like a football like celebration. I think from my understanding, now I might be just talking to people that I know and maybe they feel obligated to support me, but I think like the city of Pittsburgh, I think this is going to be quite a scene here. I think it's going to be quite a football party in Pittsburgh. Oh, that's how they roll, man. I fully expect the city to turn out. It's this football city.

That's it. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Heather did it. Yeah, Heather. I do think it's going to be pretty bananas there. No doubt. I think it is, yeah, from my understanding, from what I've heard from people back in Pittsburgh. Once again, they might be lying to me, you know, because they feel obligated to be like,

hey, yeah, because, boy, everybody would like a potential, hey, if you can swing by, which I appreciate and completely understand. so I'm going to try my best to go ahead and do all of that for sure. But it feels like a lot of people are thinking about coming, which is a very cool thing. I promise you it's going to be packed just because the amount of times that it's going to be 60 degrees in November, like the amount of times that we would just go down. Like if it was West Virginia coming to town, Notre Dame coming in town,

those parking lots are always full with probably about 50,000 people that aren't going into the game. So I think the last big Notre Dame pit game, there was some people we know that ended up in a hospital didn't even make it. It was a good time. Yeah, they got carried out of pork. Oh, no. Who's that? That person was, if I remember correctly,

chugging a vodka bottle and there was going, somebody stop him! Yeah, there was people that were trying to save this man's life. And they had... We didn't stop. They had the forecasting ability of Joe Leonardo because he should have stopped. They were right.

Yeah, he ended up, I guess, in between some cars. Sure. Found by other people put into an ambulance. And then, you know, sent out there. And I think before chugging at vodka goes, because you can't do it, doesn't me, I can't. And then, you know, that entire thing,

which we like the confidence, but certainly not the decision. But that's what we're talking about. I'm not saying anybody's doing that. 2025, everybody knows better. Sure. Everybody knows better. Definitely. But what we're saying is it is a football city.

It should be pretty epic on Saturday. I'm thinking. The drinking event. Bingo. And it's warm. Yeah, the warm weather. That is, I didn't even think about that. That's a huge game changer.

Well, and we told a story about them putting in the alcohol attacks. You remember, we talked. told a story about the alcohol attacks that they dropped in there. And they projected whatever, and it was like 20x that. And they realized the city had a problem, but then they also said, this tax is staying forever. You know, and that's Pittsburgh's going to be a good time. I can't wait to get back there.

Pitts got a tough game, though. Hey, Notre Dame's a good team right now. Another game's a good team right now. Doesn't matter, though. Their head coach said, hey, it doesn't matter if we get beat by 100. You know, we're just trying to win an ACC championship. So, you know, doesn't even matter. Run it.

Do you feel like this is a must win for this team when it comes to something? Absolutely not. It is not an ACC game. I'm glad you brought that up. It's not an ACC game. You know, I gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10 in that game. They can put a hundred up on us as long as we win the next two after that. But again, our focus is on Notre Dame and getting as many wins as we can.

We'll be talking to Coach Narduzzi tomorrow and say, well, what is it? Yeah, why did you say that? Why did you have such an exact score already? It felt like he had said that already to somebody else. Like, it literally could be 103 to 10, 110 to 10. He gave himself 10 points there, which I think was good. When did they score that? Is that garbage time?

Is that after it's already over 100? Like, is that before their last 10 times? Seems like he had thought about that answer. I assume what he'll tell us is he was just informing everybody, like, hey, the outcome of this game does not matter for what we still have going. So I think he's trying to get the narrative out there. and the information to people, I think. Like, hey, we're still very much in the ACC race.

This weekend, you're going to see, there's going to be a lot of eyes on our team. Does not matter. I think that's probably what he'll say. And on the flip side of that, if I'm in the locker, I don't think I want to hear that from my coach. But these are all Narduzzi guys. This is a Narduzzi culture. Narduzzi has built this team, and he's been there a long time. He probably has a better feel of it.

I did not expect a coach to ever say that. No. I did not expect. But he also said yesterday on his radio show I saw too. He told Pitt fans, it's a noon kickoff. get down there early, get liquored up. So he said that? Yep, he said, get liquored up.

Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. He knows he gets what he's doing. So, and obviously I don't play a pit. I'll be excited to see how that all goes. Me too. Yeah, I will be excited to see how that all goes. I'll be excited to get back. But I don't know, like, the pit inside inner workings or whatever.

Have to have a lot of buy-in to be able to go up there and say, if we lose by 100, we don't care. Nick, you want the pit? What are your thoughts on we could potentially lose 103 to 10 or whatever it is? You know, at first you hear that and you think that's a weird thing to say with a gigantic game coming up and, you know, a chance to go win the ACC championship and put on a national spotlight and beat Notre Dame on the way to do that. That felt like the right thing to do. But, you know, I think maybe just a little bit of a deflection, maybe just a little bit, let's get Notre Dame nice and comfortable.

Hey, come in here. You can beat it. It doesn't matter. Oh, you think he's, you think is his gamesmanship closed Sicilian? Yeah, not to coach Nardos. Potentially a little gamesmanship from the Dues down there. I didn't even think about Narduz coming on show tomorrow, off air going, hey, I told the boys I'm going to go say this because these Notre Dame kids,

they'll forget about the game. So you guys fell for it, like a bunch of marks. You guys are a bunch of loose. What if Narduz he says that? He says, listen, when I'm talking to the team and when I'm talking to Notre Dame, and when I'm talking to the fans, it's all different. Tell the team, hey, I'm going to go say this. Tell the Notre Dame, yeah, hire a three or ten, whatever.

Tell the fans, need you lickered up. Got to be more direct with the fans. You know, got to be a little bit more direct with them. With Notre Dame, you can kind of passive aggressively, hopefully, lower the expectations on their end. So maybe they're not as prepared to come into Accresure Field, sold out. Will that be more Notre Dame or Pitt? Pit.

What do you think it'll be 70-30? You think 60-40? It's going to be close. I wouldn't be surprised as 50-50. I'm serious. It's a pro sports town. We all know that. Pitt has attendance problems because the stadium is too big for what the program is at the moment.

They need their own stadium. Everyone agrees on that, Tony. Tone started, and then Ben Rollisberger backed them up. So then he was in a good spot, especially this week. You got Pitt, Notre Dame on Saturday. Then he got Steelers on Sunday, same grass. So look for that to definitely be a storyline coming out of Sunday's game one way or another. Because Pittsburgh, you know, we don't have the best weather.

Pittsburgh doesn't have the best weather. so do you always have the best grass in those types of towns absolutely not have the Pittsburgh Steelers ever said like hey we're going to fix this problem and we're going to use the newest turf absolutely not football's on grass okay it's outside and it's on grass is how Pittsburgh and football town feels so every single beginning of winter and then through the end of college football season let alone high school state championships happening there uh Whippyel championships happening there always a conversation about how ass the field is but that's just like what pit and Pittsburgh football is. Like you just play on an ass

field. Hey, they're spray painting the dirt to make it look like grass. Not a bad play. Very Pittsburgh of them, I would say. That's a good angle. Hey, what are we doing? You're trying to do this? I can't wait to see what game day does. It looks like. It's going to be incredible. But the other side of the

coin to this pit conversation is Notre Dame Marcus Freeman also know like, hey, this is one of the last opportunities we have to really prove ourselves to the college football playoff. Is this the last ranked opponent on their schedule. I'm assuming it is. I believe so. They need to also make a statement. So Narduzi might be saying that because he knows there's a beast coming. There's a two-headed monster

coming into town right now and we might get beat by 100. So I need to let the pit fans know like, hey, when we get beat by 100, don't, you know, absolutely kill me. We still got everything in front of us. And the pit fans will say, sure, we lose by 100 in Notre Dame. Yeah, we got everything in front of us. Sure, that's a, Heather just texted Mike Foss to get to us. Tell him that Heather Denich has just confirmed Mark Harlan, the Utah AD, has been nominated to replace Mack Rhodes, the chair of CFP committee who stepped down earlier today because of something happening at Baylor. Not a lot of details. Outkick reported one particular incident. Well, I guess two separate incidents on one particular day. Who knows what else is coming down the line. But now

Utah AD Mark Harlan is in, hey, get it right, Mark. Good luck, Mark. Hey, Mark, take a second look at that WVU Montaneers team how they're playing now. Okay, if we're trying to get the best teams in there. Scotty Fox, these boys, a little bit of a hard edge. Maybe we slip in the back.

Yep, here's the West Street Mountiers playing against Colorado this past weekend. Steve Slayton was honored for going into the College Football Hall of Fame. The 2005 Sugar Bowl champions were in attendance. I think they said 60,000 people. Oh, hell yeah.

Backed us. That's awesome. Yeah. Exactly. And I think we're going, look, Oh, yeah, that is packed out. And we are not going anywhere this season. Like we are right now building for next season is what we are doing.

It might end up with a bowl game. Got it, all good, which would be great. But I think everybody is in the same understanding like, hey, we are building a program right now. So the fact that that place was filled up, good news. Yeah, yeah. Great news going forward. Did you get a chance to talk to the Utah, AD, when you guys were in there for game day or anything when you guys were there? Was it just a head coach conversation?

Yeah, yeah. Good chat. Yeah, it was a good conversation. He's a good guy. Brief, very busy, obviously. And when you look at a photo of him, you obviously know, like, hey, when you see him, you know. You know, when you see Mark Harlan, yeah, you definitely, when you see a photo of the Utah Athletic Director, Mark Harlan, you really know exactly what you're like. You say, that's the Utah.

Yeah, yeah, I did talk to him. Yes, yes, I certainly did. Kevin Harlan in him. Yeah, well, it may be related. That one with the Utah in the background is kind of a mix of Lombo and Brandon Bean. Ooh. That's not bad actually a little combo if you're going to be a football athletic person. Mark Lambine. Good handshake here on Mark Harlan.

He has now been nominated to replace Mack Rhodes in the college football playoff committee who will be selecting the 12. That'll be counting down to one. It's interesting because you tell us like 14 maybe something. Yeah, we're saying if they get in. You got a seat, Devon. I was going to say, don't get too comfortable, VYU. Don't get it too comfortable. lost Texas, Texas.

Yeah, I can't lose another one. Imagine Mark Harlan. Yeah. How did you see it? These guys are frauds. We got to get them out of here. That's my first order of business. Get,

get BYU the hell out of here. I do wonder how the Coogs feel this morning. I do. They had him out. He was out? No, he's back in. That's right. Oh, man.

Bear Bachmar. He's going to have to deal with this for the next three years. This is three-year terms. His whole career. Oh, no. That's tough. Ryan Smith needs to make some calls. Yeah, their basketball team actually has been making calls for BYU.

They just signed a 22-year-old center out of the G-League. Yeah, I heard that's becoming a thing. People aren't happy about that. Speaking of the G-League, LeBron's head, Donner. That's right. He's designated for the South Bay Lakers. He will be in the G-League doing some five-on-five practicing. I think that's maybe because the boys with the Lakers aren't doing that at this time of the season,

so he needs to go get some work. If LeBron James is going to play in a couple G-League games and pack these smaller gyms out, it's going to be epic I think personally this is just like in the offseason I think Kevin Durant has done it obviously Kyrie's done it LeBron's done it Kobe did it like Drew League and then

Rucker Park games and like other leagues I think Equinox had a league Jamal Crawford had a league as well yeah cross servers like every one of these leagues in the off season whenever a superstar shows up the atmosphere in the gyms are just absolutely outrageous so I don't know if he's

playing in any of these games I have no idea if that's even possible. But if we're getting an atmosphere like we see in those offseason games that guys are playing, like I think Kevin Durant just won absolutely apes shit at Rutgers, if I, if I'm thinking bad. Yeah, you get like four or five threes in a row. Yeah, that's a moment. It goes Kobe showing up walking out of that. Drew League stuff with Kobe is crazy. Yeah, insanity. Kyrie, obviously. It's like those are cool content pieces. And I'm not saying, hey, the NBA season should be treated like content. But I am saying, if this is. who's showing up in some G-League gyms

and the places going crazy, that'd be great content, especially with how the Lakers are. The Lakers are a good basketball team, right? He's not even playing? Yeah, they're rolling. A lot of people think that when he comes back is going to change the entire makeup of the team since he's the Bronon, he's the ball, and then Luke will have the ball less. KD and Speed actually just played two-on-two.

I don't know if you saw it. I saw KD. Walked out. Yeah, incredible. Yeah, like, the fact that they do that stuff. I mean, it kind of goes back to the wingman conversation yesterday with the NHL. The NBA has always been really good at, like, their star. kind of promoting themselves, but also just the league and basketball in general

in the offseason like that. Speed, so athletic. Yeah, legit. That is an absurd athlete, this speed guy. What a perfect time to be a freak athlete and have the ability to have mock seat all times. Hey, just watch me go conquer all of these things. Everybody that's great at everything is going to say,

yep, this guy could have done this for a living. That's a great content piece. And that's Speed's life. I think he was even the mayor of a city in Peru. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Scott Cleveland in America. Yeah, exactly. He was like a second away from breaking the NBA record on the six cone drill or whatever the hell it was.

Yeah, he's outright. Almost won the Royal Rumble. Yeah. Well, almost. That thing turned quickly. It did. I think certainly turned quickly there. Braun Breakers and explosive athletes will.

But on their note, speed, keep doing it, man. We love watching. Yeah. It's been impressive. Very, very impressive. A lethal shooter also incredible. Maybe lethal gets on that South Bay team. Oh, yeah.

So you got Braun pass. I mean, like the question. quick analysis you gave of the entire Lakers and the Lakers season that you dropped in right before that. But I want to let you know it's good NBA stuff. Let's get back to college football. You're a Massachusetts guy. Did you see your university up there?

Yeah, my father's a proud alumni. So go minute men, baby. UMass, down 45 zip in the fourth quarter. Run it? No sound. Guy makes kick. 54 yards. Beautiful.

What a time. goals good. We're not shut out anymore. Great kick number 99. Fireworks. What are we doing? They were saving that all night. They were saving that. They got 1,400 people in that crowd. Maybe. I'm not 100% short. Sweet fireplace, though. Sweet. And the barracks in the back there. I don't know exactly what that is. It's a beer garden back there. The barracks. That's pretty cool. I assume some military veteran was part of that entire thing, so we appreciate that. The Minutemen, obviously, massive military conversation. They were waiting to put on a show. They got a night game.

It's a brand new stadium What are they supposed to do? Put it up whenever they went down 28? No, they can't do that So old buddy comes in, kicks a 54-yarder They all go, wow, that's impressive And the guy who's on the button, Mr. Zambelly probably, yeah, that deserves it. Send it six minutes left in this game, what are we going to do?

Just have you sit here until next 4th of July? Yeah, you're right. They sent it out there. You didn't want them to do that? No, I mean, that's embarrassing. You can't be doing that. They knew this type of stuff was going to have it. Listen, my wife is also a proud alum of zoo mask so like I get it but I mean

come on. Firework show is cool it looks cool it looks very very cool well maybe it just so happened to be a fireworks show for the rest of the town maybe the kick that could have been happened to happen at the same time as scheduled fireworks for a rest of time maybe it did just so happen to happen

this is the highlight of their season this is a lot of people are saying this is the worst D1 college football team of all time that's not true that's not true don't listen to Tony that's not true the US Mintman got a lot a fight, okay? Yeah, they're 0-10. Yeah, they set out fireworks after hitting a field goal to go down 45 to 3, but they're building. They're coming. That's a brand new stadium right there. They're set out the fireworks because it's like, hey, are we going to, you know,

crumble in the moments when we beat freaking Ohio State at home? Oh, you think the fireworks people are practicing for years to come. They're building a program too. Exactly. How do we know what these fireworks look like when we need them next year when we're running for championship if we don't run them this year when we're down 45 zip? Boom. So they're like, We got to get eyes on these fireworks to see if they're the right one. Yeah, make adjustments, you know? I mean, we're talking about Massachusetts. This is a do-your-job type of time.

I don't know if it's Zambeli if I had to guess it would probably be a mix-something or a O-something, but either way, it's still one of those things where, what, are they going to go in blind when they beat freaking Texas Tech at home next year? I mean, go down the list. I won't say my Hoosiers, but Ohio State, they're coming. Oregon, they're coming. BYU, don't even think about it afterthought. All those schools, and that is exactly why UMass had to let that one fly.

And although the entire press box cackled at them, audibly laughed. We don't need that. Is what I read. Yeah. We don't need that. Practice makes perfect, all right? Jeez. You think fireworks are perfect all the time?

No. No, the hospital. Check the records. There's a lot of mistakes that happened. Now, speaking of fireworks, Audie Crooks, my new favorite basketball player. Hell you. 21 minutes last night, 43 points, seven rebounds, two assists. So there was a report who was in 19,

minutes. Then we looked at the... The box score, yeah. The box score said, 21 minutes. Now, this is reporting 20 minutes. Whatever the case. Audie Crooks doesn't need a lot of time. Nope. But she's going to take over. And we just need to be prepared for March Madness for it to be the Audie Crook show because my timeline has already become that. I think every game that she plays, I'm seeing absurd stat lines like this. And I legitimately don't think she's stoppable.

Just from the highlights that I've seen, she goes, takes a break. She comes out, takes over the entire game. Okay, then it's Audie Crooks time. It is, it's like a closing pitcher. She gets an entrance. Anytime she comes in, the whole place knows. The other team knows it's about to go down. Her team knows we're putting this ball one place. It's awesome.

Audie Crooks, I think you're winning a national championship. Yeah, good. They're going to win a national championship. And she, I mean, she's an Iowa legend. I want to say she's from Bishop Garrigan. I think that's where she went to high school. I want to say her mom is maybe a Hall of Famer at either Iowa State or at her high school. but she's been doing this stuff like I when she really kind of popped on to the scene a couple years ago

I said okay I got I got to take a peek at this and kind of you know go through the layers a little bit and I went back and looked at like a lot of her high school box scores she's been putting up stat lines like that since she's been a freshman in high like she if she's unstoppable so now it's just a matter of hey our team's gonna throw five defenders at her and do we have other girls from the free throw line I think she's pretty decent she fills she fills up the bucket so yeah it's you know if Iowa State can find, you know, I haven't done a deep dive on their roster this year. I don't know what kind of wing players they have, you know, what kind of guards they have. But if they can get a little bit of production outside of her, like, she's going to average

30 to 35 points a game. 72% shooter from the line. That's pretty good. She just did the research, and she wasn't the only one. Women's College hoops going crazy. Yeah, Hannah Hidalgo for Notre Dame. She went bananas. 44 points.

Yeah, that's cool. 16 steals. I don't know, I don't know how that happened. and just, okay, they're playing Akron. I'm so sorry to the Akron woman's basketball team that they had to get guarded by Hannah Hidalgo because talk about a nightmare. I don't know what the record is either for steals in the game,

but 16 is the highest I've seen in a long time just across the board men's or women. She damn near had a triple double with steals. I mean, it's ridiculous. Hannah Houdini Hidalgo. Now you have it. Now you don't. She's a magic woman.

I think it's incredible that she can be the most athletic person on the defense. aside. Normally, that's the case. This deals is like reading quickness and eye coordination. You name it. And then on the other side fills it up. I mean, just absolutely fills it. Hey, women's college hoops. I'm not

I cannot sit here on this, on this day, I cannot sit here and say that I have watched any of these games in full. I will try to at some point in the near future. But women's college hoops has been coming through the algorithm for me. And it's because

they have superstars over there. that's a record for who for the entire NCAA women's NCAA record 16 boom the record was the record was 14 so 16 sales a record so like these superstars seemingly in women's college hoops right now taking over Algo like multiple Audi crooks

I don't know who's cooking up the internet for otti crooks she's got memes I mean she's got getting I mean she is unstoppable and that Hannah Hidalgo Ray, I'm like, I've never heard of this person. Unbelievable. Is this the best player of all time? Yeah, and I have to say it because she plays for Fairfield.

But this year's Caitlin Clark right now is Megan Anderson. She leads Women's Division I. And where's she goes? She goes to Fairfield University, Stags. She's a Staggs. She's a Stagg. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Roll Stagg.

I believe she's averaging like 33 points a game, genuine problem. They beat Villanova in the first week of the season. They came and played Indiana, right? Yeah, they came and played Indiana. It was real tight for a couple. quarter or two. But again, we were a little bit outmatched, but we didn't have Megan Anderson. Update. 16 steals is a record for both men's and women's college hoops. Congratulations, Hannah Hidalgo. There are some Hempbo stats on Hannah Hidalgo.

44 points breaks Notre Dame scoring record as well. Jeez. Okay. Good night. A lot of great players. Hang on us. Sorry we did not know this. We are getting these stats in real time from Hembo. This is 100% on it. We should have looked into it. We will, I think, hands up. I don't think we are the women's college hoops go to, but maybe if superstars are showing up every single night, why not, Ty? And we also did take a program.

We did. To go celebrate Women's March Madness in Iowa. In the middle of a blizzard. In the middle of a blizzard, bad blizzard. We saw a lot of semis in the middle of the highway, that kind of stuff. But it's also, it's early right now, you know, so you're not going to, you don't need to pay attention to this kind of stuff. Once we get into conference play and we're,

seeing, you know, Audie Crooks taking on whoever Texas is best player, that's when you really zone in. You say, okay, college basketball season's here. They fill the bucket up. They do. They fill the bucket up. Did we watch before Caitlin Clark was playing? I remember watching the WVU women's basketball team whenever I was at school.

Yeah, when I was in school, I went to a game or two. They were a cool group of girls. Like Tarasi, that era when they were at Yukon. Tarasie was a beast, yeah, I remember that. And then Candace. Candace Parker, yeah, Tennessee. It's always like superstar driven. Giler Diggins.

I mean, I figured she had the Notre Dame points record. Yeah, she did, I think, 41 maybe. Nope, Ruth Riley in 1999 had 41. And Joel Lloyd, obviously, in 2014, had 41. Scored 18 straight in Notre Dame points in the first half and 12 straight points for either team in the second quarter. She won 12 in the second quarter against this team. That's unbelievable.

Zips are good, too. Yeah, tough night for the Zips. But that's what we were just talking about with you. NBA. Like, it is a stars-driven league. It's really just a stars-driven sport. Like, in college basketball, we had Cooper Flag last year, and there's a couple other players this year now, but if there aren't massive, massive stars just in hoops in general, it's just not something you follow as closely, but the woman's basketball has a ton this year now. Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about the football, shall we? Cooper Cup is heading back to SoFi. You know, he's obviously

back home with the Seattle Seahawks. A man who's from that area has joined the Seattle Seahawks. team and they have become a wagon, okay, all wagon. But Cooper Cups, no stranger to wagons. He's been a part of a few before. Remember, he's a man who won the, they always say Triple Crown, but they forget also the yards after catch.

So he won all four of the wide receiver ones. We're talking yards, touchdowns, catches, and yards after catch. Cooper Cup, special down. Nobody could have expected him either with who he was, not a lot of fanfare. And then him and Matthew Stafford just won absolutely absurd.

He goes to Seattle Seahawks. Now he's going back to SoFi. You know, won a Super Bowl there, won some awards there, did some things to welcome Los Angeles and the Rams back into that city and that stadium. And here's him talking about the emotions of heading back to Sofi. It's another football game. What?

Get out there, play your game. Yeah, I mean, love these guys. I love so many of the guys over there. By the end of the day, got to go play a football game. So that's going to be what it is. Try to treat this as same as any other game. Yeah, go out there and just, you know, be a lock-in for your job, one play after the next, and take that play-by-play mindset.

Yeah, same as usual. Where it is that they're going to do some sort of tribute to you there? How do you acknowledge that by and also stay locked in like you're talking about? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know that. I don't know. I mean, I didn't die. You know, I'm here.

Yeah, man, I appreciate it. It's obviously so thankful for my time there. Incredible experience. I've built so much with just the fans, with the guys that I'll do play with and just very experiences. Nothing but love for that city. Yeah, but, I mean, like I said, you've got to be able to lock in for the game and what's ahead of you. So I think it'll be fun. I'm excited about this. It's a really a football team, really a football team. present some great challenges for us. Obviously, players returning to a team that they had a lot of success with

is no stranger to the NFL. The business is the business. Earlier this year, Micah Parsons, going back to Dallas, was obviously a huge story. And Jerry said there will be no tribute. He's got enough good stuff. They're going to clap for him, basically. Now, if Emmett comes back,

that's a little different story. Troy Aikman, two-eight's. Different story. These are all different stories. You know, we mountain pop here, mountain top here. Cooper Cup going back to L.A. I assume that's going to be a huge. I think it's probably going to be a massively positive response. And I think that's how probably everybody feels about the situation, including

Rams and Seahawks fans alike. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it. Like, the Micah stuff never really made sense because they didn't win a Super Bowl. Like, he was obviously an unbelievable player, but Cooper Cup won a Super Bowl with them. I think we talked about it earlier this week. Like, he was, you know, he got, he was the last guy outside of quarterback to get MVP. he votes the year he had the triple crown and you know the yak so it's like he is the one who kind of

him and Stafford obviously but like he was the best receiver in the NFL and he was the one who really helped kind of launch this new Rams I don't know you can't really call it a dynasty but like he was the one who maybe yeah exactly like they are a pillar of them being in L.A and it's like hey this is L.A.'s team

now so it makes sense that they would have a very warm welcome for him. Cooper Cup whenever you talk about history he's sitting at the top of it. Damn. Receptions, including playoffs. 2021 Cooper Cup, 178. Receiving yards, 2021,

2,425 yards. Second place, Larry Fitzgerald in the history of the NFL, 1,977. That's crazy. Holy shit. Yeah, a lot of big playoff moments for him. Not a lot.

I'll tell you what. That's an insane stat right there. Yeah. 425 yards, receiving yards is the most in NFL history, including the playoffs. Obviously, they win that year. Larry Fitzgerald in second under 2000. He's closer

to 3,000? No. Yeah, I mean, he's, what a season. Is he going to do that again? Is he going to do that with Sam Donald next year? Have a fully healthy season. He's going to be able to do this again. And then first downs, obviously, and it's easy. He had 108. Michael Irvin, Playmaker, had 1001995.

He was special. Cooper Cup and the Rams are special, special. If you're seeing a guy, as a fan of a team, go for 2,425 yards in one season. I assume your natural reaction whenever you see that person later in life is going to be, hey. Yeah. I love this guy. So this weekend, I think, will be a good return for Cooper Cup, and I'm happy for him for that.

It must have 200 catches. He had like four years worth of production in one season and a playoff run. Like, that's fucking insane. And for that reason, 78%. What's the number of, what's the number of percentage of? bets that are on the Seahawks right now? 74% of the money are on the Seahawks. Really?

Plus three and a half going into L.A. L.A. is wearing very cool uniform. Yes. They're wearing Midnight mode. Oh, yeah. Great name, great uni. Okay, and we assume the fans are potentially going into midnight mode as well. Have to. I assume it's going to be pretty dark out there so far.

It's going to be a daunting place. They'll clap for Cooper Cup. And then we're back to who? House Rams Matthew Stafford with those teeth all dark

shimmer you're going to be able to see he's going to turn like this and he's actually going to use his teeth as a decoy

for one of the safeties hey this way and that safety is going to go I got Matthew Stafford this piece

and then Matthew Stafford is going to do one of these boom over and it's going to go right

over the same how this son of a bitch and then it's going to be puka going

ha ha ha and he's going to run so hard maybe through a wall maybe through a wall maybe through a wall

on the back that's in the 4 o'clock slate this Sunday. Remember what last week, 4 o'clock slate was? Let's look forward to this one about to be gigantic, Tom. I just remembered when I was sitting in Hammered downtown yesterday. I had a hypothetical for you guys. If you could pop that slate back up,

so we're talking about Rams and Seahawks now. There's another huge NFC game, and that's Eagles and Lions. If I gave you Seahawks, Rams, or Eagles, Lions, which game would you take, you would want the team to win the Super Bowl? Do you think Lions winner comes from that game, or a winner comes from the Rams and Seahawks. Let's not even say Super Bowl. Let's say wins the NFC.

I'll go Seahawks, Rams. Me too. Okay. I think the Rams might be the best team. Or the Seahawks might be the best team in the NFL right now. And the Rams might be the second best. And I don't think they're getting anywhere near where they're headed. No.

I think Seahawks are only getting better. It's like the Colts. Like the Colts are so new. Everybody, a lot of new pieces. We're only going to get better. That's why I think we're so pumped. Seahawks, same exact thing. I mean, this is Sam's first year up there.

He's not a big deal to be there. That's only going to get better, we assume, going forward. In McDonald's defense, we just, that's going to be good. Unbelievable. Like, we just say that's good. Seahawks very much up into the right. Yes. And to your point, they're already up here.

Right. Seahawks got to be going crazy. You got the Super Bowl defending champion in the lines who, that ceiling is incredible. It's, that's a good, good slate for the answer. We'll answer that question tomorrow. Let's go back to college football. We have another update from Heather Dinnage, Arkansas Athletic Director. Hunter Eurecheck has been nominated to be the chair of the college football playoff committee.

So he's already on the committee. He is being nominated to be the chair of it. And then Utah AD, Mark Harlan, nominated to replace Mack Rhodes who stepped down. So we got a little two-chair swing here happening at this point. Arkansas A.D., Hunter Eurecheck is being considered for the CFP committee chair. He is currently on the committee. The CFP Management Committee has to approve it before it's official. So the committee within the committee has to approve that the committee now

has a new chair who was already a part of one of the committees. Now, this particular committee has an open spot. They're bringing in Utah, Mark Harmon. And the committee in the committee have to agree to Mark Harlan coming back to join their bigger committee, but probably not in the selection of the selection committee. Right. And Heather mentioned that it's possible that Mack Rhodes would come back. Based on this new information, do you think we can assume that he's done?

And they're just filling this spot now. and that will be the new person for the next three years? I don't know. They had to put somebody a chair, right? Somebody had to be the chair. So I assume that's a decision they had to make. I think the Mack Rhodes thing, like what we learned from Outkick

and then what ESPN sources are getting? Very different stories. Right. So maybe there's multiple things going on or maybe we don't know what's going on. Yeah. So like who knows what happens with Mac Roads? Because if it is a full investigation

and it ends up being quick, I assume he's not coming back this season. Correct. But like it's three-year term does he come back next year and would it be that big of fanfare or a conversation, probably not. And that's probably what Mark Harmon, Utah, ED, is coming in with the understanding, if I had to guess.

Now, granted, if that investigation ends up being something for real, there's no way he'll be a part of the 12th. Yeah, no way. Do you think because of a situation like this, and I hate that I'm going to say it, but is it time to combine the college football playoff with the BCS model and possibly have not just humans deciding exactly what the playoffs should be,

but maybe bringing in an AI, maybe bringing in a computer to assist because then you don't have to deal with all this mumbo-job. Well, what's the AI going to do? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. You're going to get the AI noseball? I don't know. I don't think. I don't know.

That time's coming. Not today. Combine the two. Humans and there. Yeah, well then it's always the human making a decision with more information to everybody else. And Nick just said what you said is the BCS.

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Get your first year for $2.50 a month. Learn more at pceexpress.ca. Football! It is the greatest. Tonight, week 11 of the NFL season kicks off in the AFC East as the Patriots host the New York Jets on Amazon Prime. That game will kick off at 815.

The pre-show, I believe, begins at 7. It's a great show. They do a very, very good job. The show is phenomenal. The evening will be spectacular, and we'll be seeing if the New England Patriots are who we potentially think they are. Oh, yeah. Which is an absolutely dominant force.

The quarterback for the New England Patriots, Drake May, the odds-on favorite to win the MVP. They got superstars all over the place. Mike Vrable was doing his thing, which we all understand is winning football. Remember, he took the Tennessee Titans where I think they had like 119 different guys on the roster, the most amount of IR people,

to be the number one seed in the AFC. He has an ability to lead a group of men on a football field, maybe better than anybody ever when it's all said and done. We have no idea what's about to happen here with the New England Patriots and Mike Vrable for the next 20 years, actually. And if you look at what happened to the Tennessee Titans as soon as he leaves the building, and then you look at what happened to the Patriots building

And once he enters the building, you think to yourself, wow, this Ohio fuck might be good at leading men in football. It's fun to watch. It's a physical style of football. Everybody's bought in. In New England, people, once again, have the ability to be incredibly arrogant about their football team. On that note, let's go to the talk to table at Boss Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

Do you feel, though, something from Conman today? It feels like he's more confident and more happy and more energized about this particular prime time game than maybe in years past when the Patriots. were going to be watched by a lot of people. Yeah, I think so, but he's justified. I mean, I would not have wanted to hear him coming in and be like, oh, I don't know, I'm worried about this one. Maybe we're going to win 21-17, but no, no, we're going to win 42-0.

We're going to beat the shit out of these guys because that's what good teams do. And I think, like, for, it was kind of a trendy pick in the preseason, you know, before the season started, hey, the Patriots are probably going to go to the playoffs. Like, you look at their schedule, it's pretty favorable. But for guys like Vrable and Harbaugh, like, The regular, like, hey, come in, take a while to build your culture, it doesn't apply. Vrable is a winner. Like, Harbaugh is a winner.

I think you could just know. And obviously, Drake May has taken a huge leap. But it was very easy to see once he got here. Like, this guy's going to turn them around and he's going to do it very quickly. Connor, even when they were losing, every single game that they were losing, he'd say, Drake May is a guy. Yeah, we lost, but Drake May is a guy. Right now, it's all about Drake May surviving until next season.

It's basically what you were saying last year about him. Has he gotten much better from last year? Is this kind of been who Drake May has been? Much better. I mean, without a doubt, and that's why a lot of the times on Monday, I like to talk about how good McDaniels is. Because without Josh McDaniels, I mean, I've seen it firsthand with Mack Jones.

As soon as that really good offensive coach leaves, that quarterback has a massive drop-off. And it's the reverse situation here where the right coach comes in, and it just completely catapults the team, the quarterback, everybody, the city, the region, the revolution region, into a different stratosphere. That is why it's so special. And that's the same to what Ty said.

That's why I came in here feeling this way because there isn't that lack of confidence in the team. Everything they say about, you know, whether it's after the game about the win, amazing. Everything they say about the game that is coming up the next week is perfect. There really isn't too many flaws right now.

And to Ty's point about the favorable schedule, it's like, yeah, great, we did have a favorable schedule. I didn't know if we were going to beat the bills at Buffalo. know if we're going to be Tampa at Tampa, but now we did. Now we're 8 and 2. And then when you're talking about the game tonight, it's like, oh, who's the keeper of the light? Oh, is a Larry guy? No, it's Rob Gronkowski. With Gronk back at first of all, Gronk resigned for a day in retiring a New England patriot. I don't know if he knows how much that means people in New England, but for like for me, that was huge. I love you, Gronk.

That is so cool. You know, Julian Edelman did the entire Foxborough forever. He never left, but he did that once he was done. And that, you know, that means a lot to people who are fans of the team. And for Gronk, he ended up going to Tampa with Brady to win another Super Bowl. You can't fault him for that. But for him to do this, kind of just strictly for no reason, aside from like, hey, New England just means more to me. New England is where I was kind of birthed as Gronk, the Gronk spike.

He wasn't a top 10 pick. He wasn't a first-round pick. He became Gronk with Brady, of course, and that's why I went to Tampa, justifiably. And then him coming back just means a lot, him lighting the lamp tonight. Keeper of the light. I mean, again, 42-0. That's what it should be tonight, and that's what I expected to be. I mean, multiple times, Gronk has said that he loves that area. I mean, they're going to trade him to another place. He said, I'll just retire. Yeah, I'm not going to do it.

And Tom had to talk him in to going to Tampa. So him getting a chance to celebrate his time in New England, I thought was really cool. Sweet. And I think that is a great thing. Craft also saying, I'm maybe two-day contractor. Maybe we get you on Thursday night, Drake May, Rob Gronkowski. Oh, Brable, Rob Grontowski, that would be a great little pairing there to watch. And another thing about Gronk, just because I don't think he got a lot of national attention. A lot of people don't know. Obviously, he's Western New York, Buffalo guy. His final year of high school, he went to Woody High, which is in Pittsburgh, Woodland Hills.

W-O-O-O-D-Y, Woody High, great football team. That's where he graduated high school from. That's where Taylor's from. Jason Taylor's from. Many other greats have been through there. You're talking about... Your mother? Yeah, Salad McAfee went through those hallways in that school.

Stevie Breston, obviously, a dog... What, in the Wolverina, where they play at is, like, folklore in Pittsburgh. Like, he went there to play. He donated this past off season, I think, like $200,000. And he got another company to match that $400,000 back to the school, which they certainly are very appreciative of that at Woody High. So it's like, this dude is... He's certainly always grunk.

And as somebody who is very much me most of the time, there are certainly people that don't like the way I operate literally every portion of my life. I'm assuming there's people that don't like Gronk and certainly we've seen it and seen it on the internet and everything like it. Gronk is seemingly always the same guy.

And you can tell his empathy with the things he chooses to do and what he doesn't choose to do. I'm a big fan of Rob Grankowski. And when you talk about football, that guy's in the pantheon of best players of all time. Ungardable. Like actually unguarded. and he never changed.

He was never like too good for anything. He said he always worked his ass off. They talk about his football feel and his football IQ as if it's at a level that nobody else has ever had. He was the youngest guy on the NFL 100 year top 100 players team. Just had a big ass with jacket on her. You know, the entire thing.

It's like Rob Grunkowski's special player, special person, the NFL was lucky to have him. I'm happy what happened with New England was happening as well. Me too. And just to echo your sentiment about Woody High I believe he also did the same thing for Boston College High School, B.C. High, which has produced very, very high Division I player. So he did that entire weight room thing.

And to your point about the Pantheon, like, I'm so glad that he retired a Patriot so that now I can come on here and say, without a doubt, I love Kelsey. I get it. Rob Granckees is the greatest tight end in the history of football. No question. Yeah, like without, you really can't even argue it when you truly look at football as a whole. Tony Gonzalez played longer. So the thing is these people, these people.

all played longer, right? Like, that's kind of the durability and duration of your career is certainly a big deal. Everybody talks about Barry Sanders retiring early, still making the Hall of Fame. Calvin Johnson, as well, still had a lot of years left, still made the Hall of Fame. Those are special outliers. Normally, whenever they're talking about the greatest, long, long careers is what everybody talks about.

Gronk, with how big, athletic, strong, everything that he was, had some back stuff coming into the league, played a lot of football, dominated a lot of football, and then kind of goes out on his own terms. That's the only thing you can really hold against, whatever you're in that conversation is that he didn't play as long as everybody else. Yeah, absolutely. Because when he, I mean, you could not stop him.

You just couldn't. Like, when he was in his prime, he was literally unstoppable. And that is the, I mean, that is a big part of it, durability and all that kind of stuff. But he, he played the way he played, and that was so great. Like, it was kind of inevitable. And, like, they changed the rule, didn't they? For because of, like, ways that he was getting hit going across the middle, going low. And, you know, I think he, like, that kind of started maybe some of the needs.

or ankle problems he has. He's a left tackle out there. Exactly. And he was running up 4-5, 4-6. And he could block. That's the big part, I think, that people who remember him and watch him, obviously remember that. But a lot of the highlights we see now are just this type of stuff where it's the run

after the catch and him being untackable. But he was a de facto, like, left or right tackle if they needed him to be, and he was one of the best in the NFL. And that's why it's sweet, like watching guys like Tucker Craft because that is who he reminds you. of and now Tyler Warren.

Like you're seeing all these full back stats coming out about Tyler Warren as well. And just my favorite Grunk story is Grunk when he was doing the draft process. Bill O'Brien was running him through the process. Bill draws a play on the whiteboard, erases it, says, hey, Rob, you know, redraw the play, tell me what you're supposed to do. And Rob just says, like, I don't know what to do. And Bill O'Brien says, like, well, how are we supposed to draft you if you don't even know what play or what you're supposed to do on that

play that I just showed you. And he said, I don't know, Bill, just throw me the fucking ball and I'll make stuff, I'll make shit happen. And that is just the definition of Rob Garankowski. Did he say the meeting went terrible? Rob said it went either very good or very terrible. Yeah, and the one, that one was Bill O'Brien. The one

with Bill Belichick, they bring them in there and they kind of take them through like a, they take everybody through like a psychological almost, you know, day, and they just left Rob Grankowski in a room. You know, you leave the guys who are visiting in a room for an hour two hours to see what they do and Granch just fell asleep he's the only player to ever just fall asleep in a room and then Belichick still was like yeah this guy I mean we have to get

what was that Goldman Sachs allegedly uh when they have they had a thing where every employee that became there became a millionaire I think because of how much money they had yeah and one of the things whenever you're first trying to get a job is they would tell you like the interviews happening at like 6 a.m. or something or 6 30 a.m. and they wouldn't meet with them until like 6 p.m. the next day yes yes it was like all right let's just see who will sit their assing this thing for 36 hours or whatever the case is. And it's like, that's a hilarious thing that Patriots were doing that. Not a bad play.

Not at all. But also, I don't know if I want my guy to, like. Just sit there. Yeah, like, what do I want him to do? I don't know what the right answer is. Sleeping, probably the right answer. Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and snooze here. Maybe just like banging his head to the wall until you come back.

We're going to pass that? Yeah, is somebody taking that time to draw up place, you know, like, because you're being watched. Like, how do assholes act in that thing? I don't know what you, maybe on your phone. I have no idea what you would do. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Dad, Cowboys AP Tone.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Manatekin, Ohio is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Hawker, what would you do if you're left in a room for two hours on one of the visits there? I didn't even think of that being a thing. Yeah, I think I would naturally fall asleep. I give him credit for really trusting his body, taking care of his temple. That's what I would tell the coaches, well, you know, coach will recover. I'm rest in recovery.

You guys running me around all these meetings all over the place. I'm still in college. I don't know. I mean, you probably have some hardos, like, acting like they're doing push-ups or something. The coach walks in and he says, 226, 227, like acting. I mean, maybe guys have done that.

I'm not really sure how to respond. Hey, we were pumped to see Gronk retire as a New England Patriot. Oddly, I was, like, oddly pumped to watch it all kind of go down, mostly because I enjoy watching Gronk get like flowers, you know, strictly because Tom Brady's talked about as the goat. Bill Belichick, obviously, and there's a lot of great players on that team. there's one guy that was there that just, you know, best of all time, potentially, just football as a whole. And Rob Grankowski, and his natural energy about him is not like, whoa, look at me, let's have a celebration for me and everything.

I want to have a good time. I want to have a good time. Basically is Rob Grunkowski's mindset. His vibes in the locker room had to be. You're talking about maybe one of the greatest glue guys of all time. If his vibes are always, let's have a good time. So them going out of their way to celebrate him, I enjoy that for Rob Grunkowski. If that makes sense, AJ. Hawk. No, I think they should. And he absolutely, he had great answers and they talked about building him a statue, whatever piece that put me a small one in the back of the end zone, because Tom's the only one that deserves a statue. Yeah, he is, I mean, when you run those highlights, you almost, we forget, like, how dominant this dude was. You can argue whether

he's the greatest of all time, whatever. I don't know if anyone's ever had as big impact when he was in the game as Rob Grankowski does as a tight end. Yeah, that might be the kicker, because the argument of greatest while time, you're never going to get to an answer, now that I'm thinking about it, is more Shaquille O'Neal. Like, he is the most dominant player at tight end. This play right here. Yeah. Yeah, the catch was absurd.

Then the after the catch was insane. And then, oh, yeah, he has the feet of a shorebird somehow. And he's the size of a Clydesdale. And his stiff arm is lethal. And I saw him just take people to the stance. Literally against us. Took a guy to the stand. Just because he pissed him off.

A year prior. Yeah. Yeah. So he has a spite, too, which is obviously incredible. Yeah, great player. Joining us now is a man who probably has an opinion or two about Rob Gronkowski and this new New England Patriots team that feels a lot like the old New England Patriots team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, our coach, Coach Mike McCarthy.

Yeah, Coach. How you doing it, Eric Good afternoon, man. Doing great. How are you doing today, Pat? I like what's going on there. What do you got behind? Is that me? I think I see me.

Is that me up there? You're going back to the burr. Yeah. I thought we'd get, let's jump right into this thing here. We got, get right in there. I'm going to get a little bigger for you. Oh, I hit the wrong button. It's all right.

You see that thing? Yeah, I see that thing. Is that me? I see Permanes there? Marnies, yeah. You know, every time I get on the show, Connor and Ty, all you guys are always talking about odds and everything. So I was just trying to fit in.

And I thought, well, what the hell could I come up with? And I thought, well, what are the odds that Pat's going to be at Permanes after midnight? So we put that out there, and you're two to one face. They were getting ready to take off the board. And I just thought we would recognize you. And going back to Pittsburgh, as I know how fired up you've got to be. And you definitely got to hit Permanagh's when you get back to the burger. Yeah, I certainly will, especially down there in the strip.

Whenever Nick got married, we stayed in the strip. We did a couple laps around there, you know, for nostalgia days. Yeah, we used to be roaming in those particular alleys there at certain times of the night. You know, there was certain situations. But it always felt as if you got a Permanati sandwich, they got great pizza as well. Nobody ever talks about their pizza. The pizza is phenomenal. It's an Italian thing.

It's in Pittsburgh. The pizza's going to be great. But you have that 23. A.m. coach, it was funny how you all of a sudden just came back to life and felt amazing and went to bed. You know, it was kind of like a nightcap there at Permanagh's. And I appreciate the fact that you understand that city. You went back a couple of years or a couple weeks ago. Was that your first time back, long time?

Because it felt like you got a little bit of a parade there as well. No, no. I try to get back here about every six, seven weeks now. You know, in my off year, for sure. But, yeah, definitely. I mean, Permandis for me was a, you know, decades, many decades ago. And really the history of the place, my understanding, it really opened up because of the, you know,

trucking industry down there at the Strip District and the produce yards back, you know, back in a day and then became a spot for after hours eating. And then, you know, obviously they've done a phenomenal job since then with their expansion. But a lot of great memories down there at the strip. Well, everything's all in the sandwich because we don't have a lot of time. Okay?

We don't have time to eat the side alongside the sandwich. which allegedly it was all placed onto the sandwiches. French fries, coleslaw, everything on top of the sandwich. So it was just one quick meal as opposed to everything on the outside, which I think is great indicative for what Pittsburgh is. Hard work in town. Hey, hardworking town. Football town.

I think this weekend's going to be epic. And, yeah, thank you for giving me a little love there. I think that's a fatter version of me, you guys. I think that's a fatter version of me. Yeah, yeah, coach. I think, I think, no, you know, obviously we blew it up because we wanted to make sure we highlight it in the part of the scale. Yeah, I appreciate you doing that. All right, let's talk some ball, shall we? Tonight, AFC East, Jets taking on the Patriots.

We just got done talking about the glory days of the Patriots with Rob Grancowski. What are your thoughts whenever I say his name? And obviously, he was the youngest player on the top 100 team for the 100-year NFL anniversary. What do you think it says about Rob? And what are your thoughts on him as a player? I mean, dominant player has, I mean, you've already stated, but when I think of Rob Ronkowski, I'll let's just go back to Pittsburgh. I remember the first time I heard about Rob when he was at Woodland Hills High School coming out and I think he went out there to University of Arizona. So I think he and I know my time in the NFL is by far the most dominant and a pure Y tight end. I mean, the play the way he played on a line of scrimmage and

you know, and just, you know, New England in their heyday with the 12 personnel, he was just always such a force. And just the connection that him and Tom Brady had was probably as good as good as there's ever played the game as far as tight end and quarterback connection. And, you know, you watch these guys go through their career, obviously a great player in New England. But, you know, there's a play that stands out to me. I was coaching the Cowboys and we were playing Tampa down there in Tampa.

And, you know, and there was a play down by the red zone where, you know, Tom just came right back on his third step and just rick and rick and rip. and we, you know, we practice it all week and in the timing and precision of, you know, him throwing to Gronk, you know, the timing of it because, you know, his catching radius and AJ could probably could have tested defending this is just, it's ridiculous, you know, so he's just a guy that was always open and just, and that's the connection that they had, but, and I really like to point to you made, you know, because it doesn't go, you know, it doesn't get talked about enough. He was a dominant run blocker. I mean, he was a dominant player at the line of

scrimmage. And, you know, you see the highlights him catching touchdowns, running people over. But, you know, he did it. He did it on first, second, third down, all the way through and was a phenomenal red zone threat. I don't like that he's a keeper of the light tonight if I'm the New York Jets. Let's talk about the game. It feels like Drake May and Mike Vraebar are going to be special for the next 20 years. Josh McDaniels has come out and said, I like being with Drake. My family likes being here. Head coaching things sweet, but I'm in a good spot here. Drake's 23 years old. This could literally go on for two more decades. if they play their cards right, which we assume they will.

What are your thoughts on this current New England Patriots team? And does it remind you of the last Patriots team or kind of how do you view this particular squad? Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't think you could, you know, the similarities are definitely just jump out at you for sure. You know, to be sitting there at 8-2, super impressive, you know, I think, you know, giving credit to, you know, Mike Ravel and also the personnel department there. You know, they got young guys that are playing, you know, right now. playing at a high level. So, and I think that's even more exciting to me as I watch them because, you know,

they're eight and two, but there's definitely a lot of growth. I mean, you start with the offensive line because the line is always, when I'm looking at this type of, you know, a matchup, you start with the, you know, with the offensive defensive lines. And I think both the Jets and the Patriots, you know, have committed resources to the, to their old lines and they're indefinitely will benefit from it moving forward. But Drake's playing at a, you know, a high level, but there's, you know, there's definitely still things that he's only going to get better at.

And I think in fact that, you know, the point you made about Josh being there, you know, if you can keep the quarterback in the same system, I just know personally from working, you know, watching Joe Montana go through, you know, his whole career in the same system, Brett Farber and Rogers and it was really a decision. And we made Dallas to keep that in the same type of system and so forth. So that continuity for him will pay huge dividends and they're off to a great start. Really love what they're doing on offense. And I think clearly defense is the strength of the football.

football team. And, you know, and I like the way Mike's built this thing, because when you look at the way they play, the way they're built, when you're, you know, when you're top five, top 10 right out of the gate in year one and both, you know, both running in football and stop and run, you know, that plays well for, you know, for playoff football and puts you in that championship, you know, formula of how you want to play, especially up there in New England. So, really like everything I've seen the last couple days on these guys. And definitely there's, you know, there's room for improvement. I mean, you look. at some of their negative plays, ball in the ground, and so forth. But when you play the Patriots, you know, over these last decades, you know, they're going to fundamentally sound, always good tackling team, very match-up conscious. I think Josh does a great job schematically, you know, week-to-week challenge it, challenging you. And I think for a young quarterback, you're always able to give him key throws early in games.

You see some of them big play action, those big play action games that they're hitting early. I think that's a real tribute to the way they approach the game, and it definitely helps him get going on because they play out. They get out in front that defense is real. Yeah, the defense is real. Let's talk about Vrable, and we just assume that his defense is going to be good with Mike Vrable. How do other coaches view Mike Vrable?

Because obviously he gets fired from Tennessee out of nowhere. We're all kind of taken back. He goes to Cleveland on a year as like a consultant. That's where he's from. And then the New England Patriots job opens up, and every New England Patriot fan was like, yep, and it sounds like Frable was like, yep, because whenever he went into the Hall of Fame up there,

he said there's nothing like this place, it is special, you need to know that. Feels like he's back at home in the right spot. How do you guys view him as a coach? That's a good football coach, right? That's just kind of how everybody views him. Is that how you guys talk about him in the coaching world? Definitely, I'm just how I view him.

I think he's an excellent coach, and things I've always looked for, whether you're competing against another coach as a coordinator or as a head coach, the consistency, you know, He definitely has been consistent in the play style that he demands from his football team, both in Tennessee and New England. You know, it starts in the run game. You know, we all want to run the ball good.

We all want to stop to run. And he's done that in both places. So I think the way, you know, the identity and how the team's built, you know, the personnel is definitely reflecting that. So, you know, the personnel department of coaching staff are clearly on the on the same page. But I think he's, and he's definitely playing to the climate of the Northeast and all those. I think all those things are important. You look at Drake May, you know, he is built for a new England football. It's, you know, something we always talked about a lot,

and it's something I truly believe in. You know, when you have Brett Farve and Aaron Rogers, you know, long hearts, big hands, you get, you know, you good. You want your guy to be spinning it better than the other guy come December in January in those big games. Yeah, and Drake can run his ass off too. Yeah. He led UNC Tar Heels in rushing and passing, obviously.

I think his sophomore year whenever he was there. He didn't win the Heism, but, you know, that's because UNC was a... Yeah, he was... Yeah, they're ass. But he's been special a long time. And then obviously on the other side, go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Coach, what about their opponent tonight? They're playing the Jets.

And we've got guys like Boston Conner saying that the Patriots are going to win 42 to nothing. I think he actually believes it. Like, he's saying that will happen tonight. I guess what's your outlook on the Jets this year? And obviously moving forward, they traded some very, very key pieces away at the deadline. But what's, I guess, the rest of this season look like for the Jets, you think? Well, I think, you know, number one, the Jets are in year one. you know, and I know also New England is too,

but I think the Jets have more going on. But I start with their offensive line. I do like the way their young guys are playing, and I think it's going to be, you know, good line moving forward, especially starting with those two book-in tackles. So, you know, sort of trying to do it the right way, Brise Hall's, I think he's a dynamic runner.

So they definitely have something to build off of, too. So, you know, I'm not sure if you guys, I don't know who's going to play quarterback tonight, so you have that going on. think it's a team that's learning how to win. You know, they've won their last two games. And obviously, the return game was huge last week for them in getting that victory. So I just see a team that's still going through some, you know, mechanics and things like

you'd like to maybe experience more in the beginning, the beginning of the year. You know, obviously they lost, you know, Quentin Williams at the trade deadline. So that's, you know, that's definitely a force in the middle of your defense. So just they have a lot going on. you know i made i made i made the mistake of talking the corner excuse me conner this morning and so you know i'm i'm feeling the pressure to to pick to pick new england with the points i do like new england games but you know i'm going to say it's we say it every week division games

that's a lot of points don't screw this up all right all right i'll take the points with the Patriots okay okay okay yeah okay now if you were to be picking Thursday night football games and obviously we missed one you'd be six and three this guy's good 75% hit rate is not a bad thing that's a beautiful thing and uh coach likes the patriots and points but he was accosted this morning well by Connor on a phone call is that how you would describe it there coach I would I was there brutal yeah just brutal I was checking in and make sure we're good to go and I mean talked about the Patriots I think probably 90% of

the conversation yeah and I made some say I wanted to talk about pack one of Pittsburgh. I mean, also heard, but I was a Patriot. Well, listen, that's been talks about too much, you know, that's been talking about too much. The Patriots tonight kicking off week 11. I think it's a prime time opportunity for this new Patriots team to say hello, too. Like, that's how I'm viewing this.

Like, legitimately, I think a lot of, we know it more, I think, personally, because we got Connor. Like, I think we, as a show, potentially, have talked about it a little bit more. Nationally, I don't think everybody fully understands. I think they see the record, and they're like, wow, that's a good football team. Then you watch them, it's like,

You see Drake, it's like, I can't believe this is his second year. And he's 23 years old. And then Vrable's coaching in between plays. Like literally in between plays, he's coaching a very young team. It's like they seemingly have a lot of upside still and they are a great football team. Well, and that's why I like the kind of showing everybody, everything will be great is because Drake May is the one that does steal all the headlines. Naturally, he's the quarterback. But when you watch the defense play, they punish people.

I'm not kidding. everybody needs to watch Bob's Blaine tonight. You need to watch number 14 on defense. He tackles so hard. It is the greatest thing every time watching the Patriots. And the greatest thing is watching Drake May. Let me get to say that. Aside from Drake May,

watching Bob's Blaine fly around that football field with an all-black visor with his sleeves and just screaming through holes, not to mention, when Milton Williams gets in the back field that makes a play, Christian Barmore is celebrating before the tackles make. when Christian Barmore gets in the back field makes the play.

Milton Williams is already celebrated. It's one of the most fun brands of football. If there was a bet out there for the New York football jets to finish with total negative yards, I would take it because of how great this defense is. Listen to what he's saying, Coach, 42. Oh, my God, this is unbelievable. People are watching. Football gods are watching this right now,

and there's a chance that all of it happens from what we've seen from the New England Patriots. All right, let's talk about some different stuff happening around the end. Wait, man, I want to change my bet. That marketing campaigns make me nervous. I mean, it's still just a football game. You're right. Take the points. I'm going to be a good teammate here, Connor, but it's still, it's one game.

It's on a short week. It's a division game. That's a lot of points. A lot of points for division game. And I do. I like everything that's been said about New England, but it's still pro football. And I think we all get caught up in, you know, the feel good stuff and all the good stories and so forth.

But it's the ultimate team game. It's still 11 on 11. And it's so damn hard to win a football game in the national football league. That will never change. I don't believe it. I'm told they should win by 12 and a half points, Coach. That's what I'm being told. Yeah, no, I'm, no, I picked it.

Don't back down, no, coach. You win by two touchdowns. You went by two scores in this league. You've had a hell of a day. You've had some things go your way, too. But it is. It's difficult to win in this league. Okay, difficult to win this league.

You have done a good job of winning when picking Thursday night games. to be picking Thursday night game, so we're certainly excited about that. But to your point, New York Jets are a professional football team. There's 11 guys. They got good players. Yeah, they have some good young players.

These guys, best football players you've ever met in your entire life are lined up on the New York Jets. Your friend that you know from high school that was really good at football, and then he played in college, really good at football. Yeah, these guys, all of them, 10 times better than your friend that you saw at football, playing for the New York Jets.

night. Okay. So if they're able to piece everything together, they can beat anybody. And that's probably the messaging and the thought of what they can become over there in England. But I just think tonight is a showcase night for the New England Patriots and who they're going to be for the next 20 years maybe, which is

gives me chills, man. I mean, I'm legit. Yeah, but what do we do? What do we do? Hey, hey, I was in Pittsburgh growing up watching this shit. Then I come and play for the Colts in this, still hearing the Colts and it was just always been seemingly. But you have

also greatness on the horizon. Let's not act like the Colts aren't the one seat and Danny Diamond's is not 28 and Jonathan Taylor is not 26 and Quentin Nelson is also not in his 30s or wait he might be 30 actually whatever you get it. The Colts are also in a prize position. If anything and I hate to do this

to the guy but we need to kind of direct our attention at how shitty the Steelers are looking down the barrel. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! I've got a lot of ideas. Oh, I can't wait. A.P. Tone has a question. for you actually kill. I don't know why I did that, Coach.

I don't know why you did it. Game day is going to Pittsburgh. I don't know what we're doing. It's because we're back, baby. That's it. All right. I just spent time and echo company, okay, and their nickname's the evil empire.

What's New England called back in the day? The evil empire. If you need a sign as to whether they're back or not, that's it, motherfucker. And also, great. Oh, I know. I know the Steelers and Col and Broncos and Patriots. Like, we are.

looking at the old school kind of times in the AFC. And I don't think the Steelers are going anywhere. Just want to clarify that. I just want shit-talk Tony for a second there. There are a lot of good teams, but there is no, there's legitimately no team primed for the next 20 years, better

than New England. I only say 20 years because Andrew reads 70. He might coach till he's 95. Yeah, you're right. And Patrick Mahomes might play until he's 50. Exactly. So then I might eat poop. But right now, I can say that with confidence. Okay, let's move off of the New England Patriots and New York Jets tonight. lot has been said and obviously it's all great analysis and it needs to be said especially in

sports conversations let's talk about some other NFL storylines go ahead tone yeah coach while we're talking about young and talented we had some unfortunate injuries to young and talented rookies over this last week obviously Travis hunter of the jaggs with a knee injury not a good situation there and then jackson dart with a concussion with the new york giants how would you handle those situations there's been a lot of talk about it one with jackson dart and running the football and not getting down and taking a bunch of hits and then Travis Hunter, you know, the whole story, the whole time has been, can he play both ways? What are your thoughts on those two situations?

Well, I think, you know, number one, they're two separate situations, but in the realm that we're talking about it, I think, you know, risk assessment is something that you're thinking about all the time as a head coach, you know, how their practice, you know, the integration of, you know, going from a backup player to a full-time player, you know, playing both sides of the ball, the reps, the wear and tear. GPS has been a tremendous tool that's been used. I know we started using it back in 2010, 2011. So I think just being smart in every player is a little different too.

So I think you've got to look at all those things because you're talking about two young men that should have great careers in the national football league. And injuries are a big part that can set back, especially a quarterback. You know, you look at the, you know, the number, you know, I saw staff, you know, being viewed, what, five, six times and never how many games he's played, that would be concerning for sure. So, I mean, you risk assess. And it happens to, you know, every quarterback. I mean, quarterback, you know, pay scale, when you start paying a quarterback, you know, $5 million to $60 million, you need to have a conversation. Those are things of, I don't think you don't run your quarterback, but I think you can be more selective when you run them, too.

I think that's a constant thought process that really probably doesn't, it's not talked about outside the walls of a coaching staff or outside the walls of a GM, head coach, owner, you know, a relationship, but you have to. I mean, it's the business side of it is real. But these young men are going to play a long time. And you don't want to see massive setbacks when they're just getting started. So I think you're, you're always looking at, you know, how you can integrate, how you can you best utilize these guys and let them get going too because the thing that

I've always been amazed with when you look at a young player you know he gets ready for a senior year or his last year in college so all the training it goes in and leading up to a senior year he has a great senior year so obviously excited about the opportunity of potential going to the NFL then he's got to go train for the draft ball game yeah I'm sorry senior bowl also whatever That whole gauntlet, that whole gauntlet, and then boom, he gets drafted and selected. So then he goes into an NFL situation, and now the training's different and so forth. I mean, it's clearly the longest year and a half of their life. And the toll that it takes, you know, both physically, you know, mentally and emotionally,

I mean, you have to factor those things in. I think that I've always looked for the jump that players would make from year one to year two. A lot of it's just naturally because year one is so damn hard. transitioning from college to pro football. So, you know, all those things are elements. You got to be in tune with which everybody is. I'm not saying they're not. But it's a grind.

I mean, you've got promising young players. The risk assessment is very important. I mean, just to echo your sentiment even more, because I've talked about this a lot, because the rookie wall is a thing that is real. That happens about right now in a season. Because there's no light at the end of the tunnel, and we're really far into this thing.

You talk about the last year of college. They started spring ball there, okay we started spring ball let alone the winter workouts that are the worst part of it all in college but let's just say spring workouts there then you got summer leading in a training camp those workouts are impossible then you have training camp then you have full season then you have one of those bowl games then you have to work out for your pro day okay so then after your pro day then you got combine happening in there then for the workouts you got travel around go meet everybody hopefully still workout then draft happens then you got rookie mini camp then you got spring camp or whatever then you got summer for a couple weeks And then you got training camp, then you have your longest season of your life where there's, you've never played this many games. You got 17 games and oh yeah, you're a rookie. So a lot of all the preseason games too. You're playing in those as well. Three games there, then 17 there.

And then if your team's good, okay, we got another potential for at the end of that. So it's like that rookie year, to your point, if you survive it, I think that offseason, the next one, you can really jump mentally, I think, because you're fresh. But also body gets a new feeling. It's the fact that you're thinking about that as a coach, I love to hear that. Legitimately, I love to hear that because everybody has to go through it, but it does suck for everybody, I think. Yeah, definitely. And frankly, then once they get through all that, if I mean, if you just look at the situations that occur, you know,

in February, March, and April, after, if you look at the rookies that go through that year, you know, some of those guys, you know, may get in a little trouble. Maybe go, you know, go to a party or two too much. Maybe hang out of permanence too long. But, well, I mean, they should. I mean, you know, after the damn year they've been through. So, no, it's a, it's a cycle. You know, there's a lot of data there to, you've got to pay attention to it.

And so when you, when you see young guys getting hurt, you know, it's just, you know, it's, I know, it's something that you're always thinking about because, you know, head coach to me, the 32 head coaches in the league that, you know, they get to compete on Sundays. But I always felt the biggest competition is, you know, how do you train your team? You know, how do you schedule your team, you know, are you having those conversations, you know, and just being in tune with each guy and risk assessment of how you utilize them is definitely part of those conversations.

Yeah, you know, you got some pretty deep stuff coming out of that yin's her mouth, and it is wonderful to hear. We certainly appreciate it. How many years coaching in the NFL were you? 1993, so, but... 32. 19 and not in this year, so 32, 32, 33.

Whatever it takes, a little Michael Keaton for you. Benzer Leggin. Let's talk about a couple more teams. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I believe you were at Lambo for Monday Night Football. And I think going into that game, a lot of people kind of assumed that there was a good chance. It was going to be a defensive battle. Obviously, we saw how the game ended. Looking at both those teams as a whole, how do you feel about Philly? And then for the Packers, a lot of the chatter has been, hey, this team needs to fix the offense and they need to do it right now because they're wasting a potential, you know, generational

run from this defensive. How do you feel about both those teams? And if you were the head coach, how would you fix this Packers offense? Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, I thought the game was kind of went the way we all anticipated. I mean, it was definitely a defensive struggle. Both defenses made both offenses struggle. And I'll say this about the Packers. You know, I've been able to see them play live now, you know, four times three at Lambone, one over there in Pittsburgh. And they've been very, very impressed with them. I mean, their defense in all four contests, you know, very consistent. I mean, their energy and the level that they play, I think, is really bodes well,

especially with November, December football in front. And, you know, in offenses over the course of the year, I mean, this is the way these things go. And I thought the injury to Jenkins was definitely factored in the second half. I mean, you lose your center, you know, that's usually, you know, not an easy situation to overcome. They do have really good depth in the offense. line. So I think they'll move ahead accordingly. But that was a hard, hard fought football game. You could see early. I thought the referees really let them play. You can see it really on the first series. So I mean, the inline, you know, combat, you know, that was going on was, was, you know,

I have no problem with it. But I just thought they really let them play. And I think you saw two, you know, playoff teams slug it out. And, you know, but at the end of the day, it was a three point game. you saying I get no problem they weren't calling a lot in there they're playing football is what you just said I got no problem with it but on that note abnormal seemingly how loose it was in the trenches

is that what you were just saying right there no I just thought to post that no that's but that's you know that's really I thought it had definitely some you know looked a little bit like a playoff game you know there's some things obviously you're always trying to clean up but you know

I think you know I felt Monday when I walked out of the stadium that I just sold two playoff teams slug it out and Philadelphia made you know a couple more plays more than Green Bay so I mean I thought the time of possession you know Philadelphia was able to to hold the ball a little longer but you know

I thought I didn't be frankly I just kept waiting for for you know Green Bay to put that drive together because you know Vic does a good job still lit on it and the two shout and we're all still waiting is what Ty said we're all still waiting for that drive to get put together

they almost had that field ball though Yeah, very close. It was. It was this close. Yeah. That's for the first one. Oh, you're talking about the one he met. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely.

And I'll say this, I don't know what the wind ended up being, but it looked like the wind kicked up there in the second half. So, you know, that's, and that always can be a factor. How'd you feel about how that was all handled at the end of that game? How'd you feel about that? The 64-yarder. Oh, McManus, OG in the game. We can steal one.

The refs aren't stopping us from snapping this. Maybe catch a little extra swing. catch the second one as a molligan, if need be. They find out he's a little bit short. Great gamesmanship out of McManus and the crew here. He ends up going a little bit short. LaFleur says, that was the best ball. I've seen him hit in weeks.

He was short. We need to get a couple more yards. Send the offense back out there. Offense, obviously, the Philadelphia Eagles defense, because we know we just saw it too, dude. Yeah, we know what you're trying to do here. Not going to be able to throw this thing quick out. You only got five seconds to handle this whole thing.

Then they sent him back out. Massive miss. Packers fans say, why do we stay awake for this? Yeah. Why did we stay awake for this? That's where Packers fans are right now, Coach. I know you're probably surrounded by them up in Green Bay, but Packers fans not the most optimistic.

You know, it was three-point game against Super Bowl champions. I think everybody thinks that Philadelphia Eagles are going to be back in the hunt whenever the season ends. Three-point loss to your point, but I don't think that's how Packers fans feel. I don't think that's how they feel at all. And what do you think that is? Do you think that's because fans naturally react to the last thing that they saw? Or do you think fans potentially see what may be,

isn't on the team for whenever the games truly matter at the end of the year. What are your thoughts on that all? I think it's a week-to-week, you know, the thing that you're dealing with with fans. And definitely, yeah, they're going to react to the outcome. But, yeah, I think, once again, it was a three-point game. There's definitely plays in a game that could have went to either way, you know, either way that could affect that game. So, and that's what playoff football is.

I mean, 96% of a playoff playoff games, I know the last five years have come down in the last series. So I like games like that. Now, you want to win them. You know, I know Connor thinks his team's going to win by 40 tonight, but you really benefit from tight games in November, December, because that's what really gets, really gets you ready for playoff football. I know, and AJ can attest this. When we were really on a role, I would get nervous with the blowout wins.

They're fun. It's an easier ride home. You feel better in the morning. The guys are, everybody's in there by 6 o'clock working out and everything. So there's so much great off the positive energy, but you need tight ball games because that's the game you're going to be in come playoff time. If you want to win a championship,

you know, you do want the experience of those tight games. So there is value for the Packers to come up and play that type of game. I really believe that. And I do. I thought they were not as in sync in a second half with the injury. And I could be wrong,

but, but, you know, they have more, I think they have more first downs in Philadelphia. I know Philly was able to keep, you know, the ball of the third downs and things like, yeah. So you can cut, you can cut through that game as much as you want. And you could find one or two plays that could have changed the outcome of that game, clearly. I mean, the fumble, you know, took points off the board, the Green Bay's, you know,

fumble and with love. So, I mean, just, and that's what those games come down to. So, but yeah, post-snap now, they let them play. They definitely let them play. And I always hope that it's that way when you play. in the postseason. So there's a lot of value to play in those kind of games. Yeah, the Colts get a huge win this weekend in Germany over the Falcons.

And I saw some people saying, like, it's the Falcons, it's the Falcons, it's like, I don't care. Falcons played great. That was a huge win. That was a huge win for the Indianapolis Colts. We needed that after the Pittsburgh Steeler game. But you talked about those close games, it was like fun to watch his team scrap, fun to watch his team get into the overtime and make big plays whenever they needed, like that ball right there from Danny Dimes.

I don't mind, you know, watching a 9.30 game whenever your team's winning. Oh, that was a great morning. Yeah. God, it's set up a perfect NFL Sunday. I mean, you're just kind of, how are we doing? Great. We just, yeah, we're good.

We're done. We want. Yeah, but your point there, Pat, is they responded from the week before. So, I mean, those are the things that have created a lot of value. And I think you always talk about stacking success and the confidence you're trying to build, you know, particularly November, December, end of the playoffs. that's a great win for Indianapolis because yeah they had a hard day

in the last time they were on the field and then they respond and I think the resilience and the responses you're going to have to have in just the four quarters of a playoff game this is all training that it that pays forward in my opinion that's right I agree with you more

number one team in the AFC now you talked about value to your team as you go forward let's talk about the most valuable shall we go ahead con man yeah coach and just to clarify I don't care if we win 3-0-0-30-0. I just wanted everybody to not get hurt, kind of stay healthy and

keep this train rolling. Strictly just need to get that 8 to a 9 in the win column. But looking at the MVP's, there are some big names on here. Drake May we've talked about already, but Stafford, Jonathan Taylor, Mahomes and Allen's still bringing it. Darnold up there. Jared

Goff seems to be a little too low just looking at that list. But what do you think about the MVP odds? And we actually looked into something before the show, too. just about MVP's, the last MVP. Yeah, here it is. MVP's won the Super Bowl since 2000.

Patrick Mahomes is the only one. So it's not as if you win the MVP, you just automatically win the Super Bowl. But what do you think about the MVP list this year so far? I like it. I just, if you don't know if you could put the list back up, but I thought Jared Goff was low, and I think he's been low for the last three years.

I think this guy's been playing that at an incredible level. And I think last week's game against Washington speaks volumes. I mean, because now you're going to give, you know, give him a 250-yard performance, you know, in a run game and add his plate to it. So I think he's playing an extremely high level.

I think clearly, and he's done it now. And, you know, and I think we just kind of, I don't know if we're taking them for granted, I don't think he gets enough love. And I definitely have him higher. Love Drake made. It's up there. And it looks like you're in charge of the, uh...

No. No. No. I think it's cool that he's up there and speaks following kind of year he's having and I think it's already been said and there's definitely room for improvement with those guys too. So that is exciting for New England and Drake May.

But I think Matthew Stafford and Jared Gough clearly those guys with Drake have established themselves as as a quarterback. But the guy I want to throw in and AJ could talk on Adrian Peterson. I mean to see a running back up there is

refreshing because when you have a season like Jonathan Taylor is having, and I always go back when, when's the first time you remember watching Robert Grinkowski play? I've been to two calls football games in the last 35 years. I went to the Iowa Wisconsin football game down there in Madison in 2019. It was excited to see him play. He was having a Heisman-type season and so forth and you know it was a tight it was just how you think a Iowa Wisconsin game would go is you know it was it was tough you know a lot of running and so forth and and I remember after the game and Taylor is like man it boy what a consistent tough hard-nosed runner and he I think he carried it about 30 times but I would have never thought he went for 250 or 260 that day because he just so my point

is he's that good I mean when great players just kind of do they play at that level you know all the time, and I don't recall what year Jonathan's in. It would see what year five or six or seven now, but he's six, I mean, he's been playing. When he's out, I mean, he is a dynamic player because, I mean, he just does it playing and play out. And then he also can hit that home run. So I think he's definitely having an NBC. It kind of reminds me of Adrian Peterson when he was really rolling for the Vikings. It's his fifth season for Jonathan Taylor. I'm sorry. Go ahead, AJ. No, sorry, coach. I wanted to reiterate. Yeah, the Adrian Peterson situation. I was lucky, I guess lucky enough to play against Adrian twice a year for,

I don't know, seven, eight years in a row when I was in Green Bay. But it's true, like when a dude is rolling like these guys are like Adrian was forever and like Jonathan Taylor has been, like, you don't know, all week, you're preparing for it, you're preparing for it. And if you go there, especially on the road and this dude, like it just, it almost sometimes felt inevitable. Like, all right, we got to keep boxing them, keep boxing them in. And then when they break one or two of them, it's like, all right, the dude runs for 240 on you and you're screwed. And it seems that these guys do it week after week. It's just so

tough, I think, for defenses to consistently stop guys that are this good. It's a head game too, right? Huge head game, I assume, yeah. I mean, think of the things you'd run off of it. Coach, like, when you have a running back like that that's rolling, like, how does that open up your offense? It adds a second to your play action protection game. That's what it

does. I mean, because, you know, that does safety's got to be at the line of scrimmage and you know, and you're really trying to get tough. You got to suck them up, too. You got to suck them up. Don't you suck them up? Good, coach. Suck them up. Suck them up with that play action.

That's what we're trying to do, Coach. We're trying to suck them all up everywhere. Right here, sucking them up, right here. And then boom, Jonathan Taylor. Linebackers, where are you within two yards of line scrimmage? Well, Tyler Warren's right behind you. Got the D. How you doing?

Keep it moving. We are weaponizing it. Yeah, we got the D sucked up. Once you suck them up, you got the D and it's blouses. Yeah, you're 100% right. I didn't even think about it. And that's what we're doing. And that's what Jonathan Taylor adds.

And I'll tell you what, we're going to have to pay him again. We don't need him with a hoodie on at the beginning of training camp. No. We need to pay this man, his money, and we need to continue to enjoy the Jonathan Taylor ride. Now, you mentioned Jared Gough there about how much respect you have for him. A lot of people thought maybe the Lions would see a little bit of a regression on the offensive side because Ben Johnson, the bell of the ball, offensive genius, leaves Detroit and goes to Chicago. Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, I do, coach. that's kind of been a talking point this week that Dan Campbell took over the play calling for offense coordinator John Morton. Obviously, you've been a play caller head coach in the NFL for a long, long time. How do you feel about that situation as a whole when the head coach takes over the play calling

for the offensive coordinator, and how does that work out? I mean, obviously there's reasoning from within the staff that they talk through and then when you have the result that you have, I mean, I mean, you can't argue with it. But I think, you know, number one, it's it's, it's never easy to change like that, particularly, you know, at that point in the season, you know, I've experienced it once myself. So, you know, that part's tough.

But, you know, but also you can see the potential benefit on the other side of it because Washington not knowing that it was going to happen definitely, you know, helps, helps Detroit in that particular instance. But, you know, Dan's an outstanding football coach. I love the way his teams play. Obviously, saw something that he felt like he needed to do, got the results. And, but, you know, most importantly, that connection between play call and a quarterback is, for me, is always the top of the list. And I think they clearly have that because, you know, I thought they looked dominant in that game against Washington. What did I watch, Foxy, where I saw Dane Campbell, like, drop a tear for Jared Gough?

What was that? there was an interview where they talked to both of them and Jared Goff talked about what Dan Campbell meant to him and what Dan Campbell talked about what Jared Goff meant to him. Do you remember what I'm talking about? I don't remember what you're talking about, but I will say this year more so than ever, MCDC has given Jared Goff so much credit

on what he does at the line of scrimmage with audibles and reading protections and all this things. MCDC has made it a point pretty much every single game. He's given Jared Goff so much credit for how good he is getting the guys right at the line of scrimmage. I think it was quarterback on. Netflix, Jared Goff was being followed and they had to sit down with Dan Campbell and when

the trade happened, like Dan wanted to talk to him and tell him like, hey, this isn't a you're my guy, like told him that basically from the beginning. And I don't know if one of them got emotional, I remember. I remember Goff getting emotional for sure. Yes, like they, it was like a real, you could tell it was like a real connection because both of them feel

like they probably careers. We did this thing together. And then the first win. In a city, yeah, and then they cry after first, in a city that doesn't really have that a lot. Like, that's a special connection, a special bond. I didn't even think about that whenever it came to him calling plays versus maybe somebody else. And you've got to keep in mind, in year one, I mean, they started out 0 and 10. They were 3, 13, and 1.

And I'll tell you what, Jared Goff was not good. Everyone thought he was a bridge quarterback. Everyone thought he was going to be out of there. We're going to draft someone. And MCDC stuck with him. And I know that means the world of him. And now, like, he did what Matthew Stafford can never do in 12 years in Detroit. He's winning us playoff games, which is just crazy.

And we all love it. And what's the chant in Detroit. It's literally at any sporting event you go to in Michigan. Jared Goff Jared Goff Jared Goff And remember he got kicked out of LA basically in that trade that happened

in a hotel in Mexico That is just It's a crazy thing to think about And you talk about their records The first year MCDC was there Let's go back to a record, a good one Coach McCarthy would be six and three Okay, if he was to be picking

Thursday night football games He has picked the Patriots minus 12 and a half Even though, coach, for a division game well I too many points that's a lot of points that's a lot of points that's a lot of points

no I've made the pick I'll stick to it yeah and on that note you're sticking to it 58% of the public bets are on the Patriots minus 12 and a half in our YouTube chat Bill ran one Bill's wearing a tobogging and the whole thing today he looks like very interesting he put a

he put a poll in the chat who you got tonight Patriots minus 12 and a half 70% of the vote voters. So 58% of the public, 70% of the YouTube chat poll. Mike McCarthy, Boston Connor, saying 42, nothing maybe. All right, coach, good luck tonight. Hopefully that becomes a 7 and 3.

And we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your life to chat with us. I just want to ask a quick question. What is the numbers on the team with the points on Thursday night football? The team against the points. The team with the points win, what, 80, 90% of the games? It's a lot of point of that. Not last week. Early in the season,

primetime games were being won by the underdogs. And it's flipped as of late, but I think it's right around 50% right now as far as dogs and favorites. Yeah, last week was a huge lopsided line. Raiders, Broncos, and the Raiders did end up covering. But coach, I mean, you put your head down on that pillow tonight and tell me that you're okay with taking the Jets plus 12.

Well, that's what I think the YouTube chat is. I think that's what the YouTube chat pull is. You either pick the Patriots with everything we've said for the last time. Or you can take the Jets right here. Nobody. I mean, 30% of the people are good for them. Those are the sharps. But from us, Coach Carthy, we're going to wrap up here on ESPN and continue on digital.

You got anything to say? You got the countdown clock right in front of your final message for the TV crowd? The TV crowd? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Jay, you did a great job today. I thought you gave me some more questions. Thank you, Coach.

Thank you. All right, have fun. So I'm not going this time, right? I don't know. Transfer over. We're already over. We're still on. We're still alive.

I didn't know what the hell was going on last week. I was like, what the hell is he talking about? This week you definitely did. You definitely knew. I was like, am I supposed to say something here? He totally screwed me up last week. All right. All right.

It spends a full ball coach. We appreciate the hell out of you. Super Bowl change. Ain't in my lane. Staying in my later. Because I can see you're doing a hell of a job with those TV contracts. I ain't going to bring that up. I'm trying, man.

I have. I would like to let them. Yeah, you and your suit friends. I would like to. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, whoa, whoa, I'm going to get out of here. All right. Those will be proud to know that I have, like, a suit, sent some emails to both parties,

saying that ball. is needed more ball good ball two parties that are actually involved in anything not a website okay

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apparently really that would be a crazy turn of events certainly with how the conversation has been going but on that note I think it's just a couple people that just need to We just need you to

Yeah, basically said get comfy That's, we just need to get comfy Yeah, we, hey, ball, for a good ball For the good of ball, you know, for a bit of ball, please And on that, let's take a break Yeah On the other side, AJ Hawk and I will make our official pitch We'll wrap up all the sports stories

From around the sports universe We will celebrate the fact that Oh, I just saw for the first time like that it's not because i beat you but i am certainly i'm on to pause the side of things heading into oh yeah big weekend you're you're seeing the field did you take the bucks oh no good call last week yeah i want to let you know what was i thinking i think you got a good chance of uh you know me when i believe in a team boy i believe in them remember i lost hundreds of thousands maybe on that chief's team yeah

you remember that's for sure brother that was a lot of fun AJ you remember those days when the chiefs are winning all those games but nowhere near by enough points do you remember that yep that makes it a little bit tougher now that that messes me up sometimes making picks these days yeah I rode with that chiefs team Nate because the chiefs is still the chiefs and then I'd have to walk into the program on Monday and go they won there they still the chiefs but boy feels like this sports book knows exactly what the number is supposed to be so don't win with the chiefs That's what it became, because they weren't blowing teams out, but they were winning. And then lo and behold, when they were able to win those close games, they would inevitably win a Super Bowl. Because, to Mike McCarthy's point, not every game can be a blowout, even if you're a great team. So, like, when your team wins, you should be happy.

Like, when the Colts beat the Falcons this past weekend, there were so many people that were like, it's the Falcons, it's like, we're in fucking Germany. It's an international game. McQuaid was there. Yeah. Out of pressure. Any more stats coming out of Germany for that game, with Jonathan Taylor running for that many yards?

Has that been talked about in the history of Europe, especially in the football sphere? A big thing. They are saying, you know, lads, this is the greatest performance in the stadium since Jesse Owens won the gold medal in the Olympics in 1933. I mean, you go and you look at everything, lads. They're saying this might go down as the most important running in the history of the stadium. That's not what McQuaid's saying. That's not what I'm saying. There's just a lot of lads around Berlin, you know.

And in different European countries, we're saying, we haven't seen anything like that since... Long time. Long time, since Jesse Owens is running on this very hallowed field. And, you know, Jonathan Taylor, lads, reached actually a higher top speed than Jesse Owens did on his 100-meter dash victory and whatever other medals. In full pads, lads, yeah. And I believe I want to say that his spikes were actually very similar, if not the exact same spikes that Jesse Owens ran when he won... I understand it doesn't make any sense because he was basically wearing

like, you know, just pieces of leather with like little golf teas on the bottom of them, lads. But, you know, the cleat technology, actually I did do a little bit of a deep dive in this. Cleet technology actually has not come that far since those 1933 Olympic Games lads. So it's

unbelievable to think that basically Jonathan Taylor, he walked into the stadium lads and I haven't confirmed this. I will look into it. I will go back to Berlin. This We are obviously in Madrid this weekend for, you know, commanders, dolphins. I mean, I am the international, yeah, thank you. I am the international man of mystery, a la Austin Powers, but I will go back over there.

Yeah, and I will see, I'm not, there was a little display case. Right when you walk in the stadium, these are Jesse Owens cleats. These are unbelievable. Rumor has it. No way. Rumor has it. Shane Steichen walked in. Fucking smashed the display case.

Sorry, Dale. That was not planned, obviously. Sorry, lots. Smash the display case, took him right down. He said, J.T. Got a new pair of cleats for you today. And JT. didn't even need to say anything. Didn't even say, like, no, I like my cleats, Lyle.

I mean, I'm rushing for three touchdowns a game, you know, 200 plus yards a game. He knew exactly what needed to be done. Took him, laced them up, and we saw what happened. I didn't see those on the field. Yeah, you'd have to maybe go back and look at the tape again, you know, because obviously, you know, we have these 8K images, you know, things get enhanced.

But if you're watching it on, like, you know, potato or like a 720, 480. Here we have like 1020, 1080, I think. Yeah, you can see him. Yep, you can see him right there. I don't think that's them, McQaeda. No, I'm pretty sure. You're saying this was the best running in this stadium?

You said people were saying that. Not you. I didn't say that. I heard that from a lot of people from around, you know, the surrounding area in the lower bowl. I believe they actually did paint the cleats blue before the games, lads. Because obviously they didn't look like that, you know, back then. I don't know.

We're going to have to check that. But I do appreciate the. fact that that's some of the greatest run in the history of Germany. I mean, that dude won crazy. No doubt. Is it true that McQuaid is singing the national anthem in Spanish, in Spain? Is that, I saw that on the internet too. That would be, I would, okay, would we be surprised? No. No. No. Not all. That's kind of the way to look at. Relieved. I just saw myself walk in, TV in morning. Oh. They're doing a pregame routine on the TV. Maybe I have a coffee. It's nice. Kenzie probably, you know, I'm telling him we're international. It's just

Spain. You go over there someday. And then McQuae just pops up and goes, sorry, lads. And then just starts a better now. It kills it. That'd be a great Sunday morning. If that's not the plan, it needs to be. Learning.

Adele knows, though. He understands. You think they've responded to the kickoff conversation that happened on Veterans Day? That's a good question. I do wonder if they take that as like constructive feedback. We have not reached out for comment, but we do know that they heard it. Yeah, they definitely heard it.

He definitely heard it. Thank you for sticking up, I believe, was a thing. It's like, yeah, hey, we had to save the play, Mr. President. Are they even allowed to do that? I thought he was going to potentially get Cash Patel to look into the NFL. Are you allowed to change the game? Still time. Are you allowed to do that?

That fundamentally changed the game. The ball is in the air, he said nobody's moving. That's an interesting point, I guess, about it. Yeah. If the balls in the air, there's always people moving. Except for that time. Not that the play has started. The ball's in the air.

I'm seeing it. Nobody's. Is this a live play? What is this? Is this in football? Just him every time he watches it probably just another thing. And I did want to tell him. And I did that, hey, none of us are saying, yeah, this is better than the.

Yeah. Better than not having it. It's better than not having it. Yes. This is supposed to save the play. This is saving, you know, a lot of special teams. importance to the game and I, former punter, and kickoff guy

and jobs, yeah, we would like to keep that in there, but they were saying, they were going to, what's the day? They're still running into each other, he's saying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he did. Oh, what a moment. Yeah, I would love to be a fly on the wall of wherever Josh Harris was

when he just doubled down on the not commanders. Oh, with Josh. When he was just there, two days before and Josh Harris is sweet. I'm not even going to tell you what I was going to say. He said at one point. What was that going to be?

What was that going to be? Who knows? Could go any different way. Uh-huh. Yeah. Shout out to the vets. Oh, yeah. Shout out.

Yep. Absolutely. That was cool that we got to do all that. So cool. Yeah. And I wonder if the VA gets a little bit of an uptake. Hopefully. I hope so.

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Wow, AJ. Maybe harder. baby hard hey i got i got a little delay i tried to start saying football a split second earlier am i on time or am i behind everybody i think this one was good so whenever i'm at a place on friday i try to go right before everybody as well i don't know how it sounds when i go yep same thing it comes through right on time right on time okay so it is like a little bit of a beat though a j it is hard to kind of guess isn't it oh yeah because you don't know you think you're right on time with everybody else but you're like a second behind if you if you wait so yeah i just

got to jump it a little bit yeah you got to feel it i i i'm I think you've got to feel when you've got to get in there. And I want to let you know, I think you did a great job. Yeah, that boy, Hawker. Because I've been in your position on Fridays, you know, and I know what you're going through. It is always like, uh, and then if you miss it, it's like, missed it. Yep.

Yeah, we're gone. Now it's an echo. Football. A good thing that helps us with that, too, is watching, watching you on the big board when we're all, like, about to say it. Like, for Hawker, like, you should see, like, when it's coming in, just where we're at as far as about to say it. Anyways, on all the football updates, college football playoff committees, got a lot of them.

Mack Rhodes, Baylor A.D., who is the chair of the college football playoff committee, steps down this morning amidst an investigation happening at Baylor. We don't know the exacts of all of it. Outkick reported an incident with a tight end and then a coach with the athletic director. He's also the chair, obviously, of the CFP committee. Your thoughts on this, AJ, as we've already had two CFP brackets released. already started to meet. He was the one that was the mouthpiece for the entire group that Reese Davis spoke to on those Tuesday night shows. They have a new chair. He's the Arkansas

AD, Mr. Hunter Eurocheck. He was already on the committee. They're promoting him to be the new chair. There's a subcommittee within the college football playoff committee that'll vote on if he should be leading the entire committee. And I assume he will join that subcommittee that is the leadership committee of the college football playoff committee because we need another committee to be making decisions

even though we're in a room to make a fucking decision on that note we're appreciative of their process we understand what they have going on and then the AD Mark Harlan from Utah who has been in the CFP committee

in the past will join or has been nominated once again subcommittee of the CFP committee has to vote on it but he's been there before and they're nominating him to join it back. He's a big 12 AD. They lose a big 12 AD in Baylor. Eye for an eye is what Heather Dynich said.

AJ, I just said a lot there to kind of catch everybody up on what is happening. Your thoughts on this happening, middle of season, late season here with so much implications on the line. Yeah, it is a bit unique, I guess, for the head of the whole situation to step down right now. All I know is what I've read from the outkick stuff and what you guys have talked about. What a wild, wild allegations, I guess. if true, whatever is going on with the whole situation on the sideline. But this shouldn't change, like, the votes,

the other people there, I would assume, aren't super swayed by Mr. Mack Rhodes, unless this guy was some, you know, David Koresh type guy, give people to really follow him. What are we supposed to? Taylor, good time. Yeah.

I didn't even think that. I didn't mean to do that, but it does work. It does work. I don't know if he's a Davidian leader or not in the CFB committee room or which committee potentially is the closer follower of his, but he is the mouthpiece of it. So I think there is obviously an

expectation for him to at least have to hear every argument, if I had to guess, because he's going to be the one that's going to be speaking. So hiring from within the committee to be the new chair, I think was the only really logical move. Bringing a guy that's already been in there back, is that good news or bad news in your eyes? And then how do you think BYU feels? Oh, whoa, the phone here. We got Utah back in this thing. I thought we had him out. I thought we had amount of here. I just wonder is the new guy that steps in are they going to still do the hats? Or was that a

Mac Road situation? Are we not going to hang the hat? They definitely should still hang the hat, but the new hat that comes in needs to be maybe a big splash hat. Because that hat gone. Yeah. That hat was chair hat that first hat.

So they have an open... They have an open arm on a hat rock. Is that the way? Is that him? I think that's him. Side profile might be. That's a flashy outfit. I was going to say, compared to what everybody else is wearing. He's got a lot of pizzazz.

That's Mark Antoneo there. He doesn't like the yellow, allegedly via an outkick article. He did not like the yellow long sleeves, but he loves that shirt. Is that him? Could we go back to the beginning? That's what, oh, man. Is that him? It looks like him side profile.

It's a football player on that in the back of that jacket. Let's see. Go ahead. Yeah, I'd say. That might be him. guys got mops that shirt is so sick oh listen whenever you're the one speaking for the group you put your hat on the rack first and you dress like this is what he said whenever they started meeting and uh i can't blame them for that but i i think there's a lot of other stuff going on

potentially in his life that people are certainly going to be looking into and uh good luck out there to the new people that are part of the committee and in new positions there good luck to you guys as well i cannot wait to see how you do maybe a fresh voice in a room on the season's a good thing a AJ? Yeah, of course it is. It's got to be a good thing. And the people that are being promoted from within, they know the process.

They know how it works. You don't have to sit there and, you know, re-learn and re-teach them how the things go. Why couldn't we nominate Tone Diggs to be important? Good question. I mean, we could nominate them what's nominate them now? Who's stopping us from nominated? We'd like to nominate AP, tone,

who does not have an AP vote in college football, only in NFL football, but he is a two-time, two-time college football author. we'd like to nominate this man AP Tone for the open chair. Yeah. Yeah, we'll nominate him for the chair of the entire thing.

But if not that, a seat in the CFP committee, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Tony. Who said that?

You can't accept the nomination and vote against yourself. What are you doing right now? I solemnly swear to represent the CFP. left hand. Normally right hand I would put on the college football ball or something like that. Your college football

Bible, your Bible that you wrote that's what they all put their hair. I think that is what they do, though. Right? So you put your heart because it's the same thing. Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah, college football. I solemnly swear to represent the CFP committee

with the best of my ability. No biases, only stats, facts, and watching good old all 22 tape to come up the best 12 teams we could possibly come up. I don't know if it's going to work, but that was a good pitch. That was a good pitch. I'd also like to nominate Nick Saban. Just because everybody's nominating him for all these jobs.

Step below tone. That's our second. That's our second nominee. Thank you. I would also like Desmond Howard in there just because I think he would mix it up. Just looking at the hats, looking at the hats and the thing, it'd be great to get Des in there. I would love for Desmond Howard to be in that room.

If not Des, obviously, Reese, who does the interview. I think he'd be a good representation. Basically, anybody on the show that I'm a part of, but me. Okay, I think it's probably good people to put it in there. Mostly because, what, would you want to be there? No way. And now these two names are like the loudest, the two new spots. Well, hey, Hunter, Eurocheck out of Arkansas, he's taking it over.

This is the guy. Okay, and then Mark Harlan out of Utah. He's in there, too. Do we know who any of, no. So whenever you get it wrong, the only three of your association, go out of Utah. Yeah, yeah, true. You know, I don't know if it's the best thing to be a part of. Just my experience with college football, you're going to piss off so many people.

Just so, and they're very passionate. And I don't know if you're ever going to get it right, AJ. I don't know if you're a retired coach. I can see it. Like I saw my old DC, Mark De Antonio, he's on the committee. For him, he's retired from football. He still follows ball. I would imagine he keeps him involved.

It's probably good for someone like that. Yeah, I bet, but you're going to get the backlash is immediately. He doesn't care. He doesn't hear it. He doesn't care. I would imagine that. BA last week also said he was friends with a coach, I can't remember

who it was on the committee, and he was like they make you watch more tape in these meetings than I have ever watched even as a coach. I was like, oh, that is great to hear. Okay, so you're forced to watch this tape, who runs it too? Who runs the tape, too? You can't just put film on and just sit there and look at it. Well, that's the thing. That's why Mack Rhodes got that shirt

on. Yeah. The chair's up there in the front trying to steal everybody's, you know, attention. Make sure they're not sleeping, you know? Okay, fourth quarter here. Ohio State Buckeyes. they're up 42 and then the projector hits off his shirt and there's a glimmer, a shine that captivates everybody's eyes, you know, that is, he's the one doing the show. He's the one doing the show, which is why Hunter, you're a check, good luck in there. Yeah, good luck.

And that's why they should split up those kind of responsibilities instead of having that guy run the tape and be the chair, I do think that's where bringing in the utter guy to walk him through the tape to just at least show him what we're looking for. He doesn't have to be on the committee, but at least he's maybe teacher of the tape. Here's some other stuff that we need to be looking at. And then he's highlighting things from another game. Let's go to another situation. Those types of things.

Yeah, exactly. Premier player. So then we know at least what they're watching. Yes. Yeah. An individual time with Stanford Steve needs to be had too, so make sure he's reaching them. A couple cocktails before they go in maybe just because, you know, you can't go in like a stiff either. you got the other guy saying

I mean we were there in Pasadena getting ready to go out to dinner bars about to close about 10 minutes we're about to go out to dinner we're going to meet you down there Steve I got it don't worry about it we came down he had 38 Jack and Cokes oh yeah he's just waiting for us

Hey go boys hey how are you guys I got a couple drinks for here Some of great guys spilled all over himself Was being the greatest exactly We need a guy like that Just kind of rubbing off on these people Because you know at the end of the day We need to find the 12 best teams

and who better do that than Steve. Starting with 12. Count down to one. Who's it going to be? They decide. They choose. Good luck here. Go get them.

I appreciate them taking their hats off going in there. It's a good game. Respectful. Because you could lower that hat and not watch the film. You're sleeping. True. It's like a high school again. Can't have that.

Take the hats off. We want to see your eyes and your eyelids. Let's make sure where that's happening. We're going to force you guys six hours here. make sure we're seeing it is that what you're saying they're saying like six hours of film i don't know we'd have to ask b a next time he's in here but i was just looking at those people they probably needed nap too

that's what i'm saying how do you that that's immediate sleepy sleepy that's why you need stanford steven some warm milk yeah yeah i mean imagine the oval team that's flowing through that room while the lights are out maybe some film good yes absolutely the spam for lunch breakthrough halfway come on nice meal do they got checkers in there. You know, every day is checkers.

They need Stanford maybe. I think they put a shovel board in their actions, too. Boshy ball, yeah. I'll see if it fit in there well. Don't need a vote, though, because he already takes enough heat with his picks. Yeah, exactly. That's true. Yeah. So I'm taking them to the day. Hey, two and one this last weekend, I think. Come on, Steve. He's going to get them all right this week.

All right. Let's make our picks, dude. Let's do this. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, I tell you what, Big Mike kind of, I thought he wouldn't go and take the point. I thought there was a lot of points, and he actually is sticking with. I think Conman definitely bullied him into this. Yeah, no bad. Big Mike is a team guy, and he thinks he's, he said, I'm a team member, I'm part of the squad,

here we go, I'll take the Patriots, but yeah, I'm trying to figure mine out. This is the first prime time game in New England in over two years. Exactly my point. This is a, that I said earlier, this is a hello, we're back from all of New England. you can certainly see it playing out that way, especially with how good their fans are. It's not like it's a brand new fan base trying to figure out what a good team is.

It's like they're a smart fan base. That is a smart fan base. They know when to be loud. They know what to say. They know who to target. I mean, that's a great atmosphere for a lot of different reasons. And then Vrable and Drake,

I think it's a big for them too. Yeah. Okay, here we go. Lights are on. This is our house. It's not the old dynasty's house. I think they can prove a lot. And on that note,

it's been real loud like kirk herb street kirk herb street last thursday comes on the show and goes shh don't tell anybody keep this quiet i was going to be the working in iowa and it's like

kirk i think a lot of us were thinking that well not a lot of us i don't think a lot of people nationally no a lot of people in the thunder dome strictly because we are forced to watch the Iowa Hawkeyes team because of Ty Schmidt. A lot of people in this Thunderdome are thinking the same thing

and I guess we should have reached out to him and we should have told him, hey, yeah, there he is. We should have reached out to him and we should have told him, hey, we're not saying shit about this. We purposely did not even, I mean, we were just staying completely clear of it. There's no reason

especially with the type of coach that Dan Lanning is. Like Dan Lanning definitely feeds off of that shit. I mean, it is one of those things. So if we think Iowa does have a chance, there is no reason, there's no reason to just go ahead and wake up Oregon, basically. Now, the Iowa fans, it wasn't like they just woke up and they killed us, but I thought Kirk made it way too loud. I think it got way too loud, way too loud. And he almost predicted the damn game. I mean, Kirk knows ball, obviously.

And we thought we were on the same page with Iowa potentially upsetting Oregon. But it got too loud, football gods, maybe go. Uh-uh. I don't think that's how that goes. if it's going to be a massive upset, it can't be something that the whole world's talking about for multiple days beforehand. And now I'm starting to wonder

if that's what's going to happen here tonight with this Jets team. Like, there's no way anybody, 70% of the YouTube poll said Patriots minus 12 and a half. That was with 15,000 votes, allegedly, who knows, you know. I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar. I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar

and they're very mean. And I'm like, wow, this many people are saying the same thing. This could be a fake. those could be bots saying. But then you read it again, you're like, kind of true, though, these bots are getting good. So who knows how many actual humans

are in this particular poll? We assume YouTube and Google's Algo is good at defense of those types of things, so we can say it's pretty accurate. 15,000 actual humans voted on this thing, but 70% of them are on the Patriots. And I've literally, for two hours of the start of the show,

just saying the praises of the Patriots. You also listen to me for four hours before the show. Am I a part of the problem? Am I a part of the problem here? Did I completely flip it? That's what I'm trying to figure out. AJ, who'd you officially take? I haven't officially taken anyone, but you know,

I almost flip back to the Jets, but I am taking the Patriots. I don't know if I just want to give one up to AJ here. Garrett Wilson's hurt, I know. I don't love that for the Jets. I mean, the Jets do one thing well, and that just so happens to be the best thing on the Patriots team. And they're very, like, I just... Yeah, fuck it.

it's the fuck it the patriots are dominating tonight that we all are just in agreement that the Patriots are dominating tonight there's a chance that this Jets team could have found some things in the last two weeks that they put up a fight in there within two scores I assume Aaron Glenn is hearing all this saying

this is very disrespectful of our football team they think we're just going to get blown out at here he can pull from a lot of things which almost makes me want to do the Jets plus 12 and a half thing but I can't because what I've seen from this Patriots actually watching them with Patriots fans they are so good

like so good and last week maybe Drake starts out a little bit slow he figures it out and Josh McDaniels figures it out it's like they are very talented and then the defense is outrageous so and his first prime time home game for these boys yeah I mean the gronk yeah gronks

keeper of the light there's so many things working in our favor where I am also in your shoes where it's like wait a minute wait is it too much and then it's not no stop thinking yeah it's not one of those teams it's a variable team like it is a different situation yeah very humble team very hey we're just going to work every day like if the messaging was different out of the building itself like even you know social media

stuff on individuals and things of that nature then maybe okay they're taking their eye off the ball but I think it's more so like hey if we dominate tonight what's on the horizon is a four day weekend we have a we're on the road next week but again four day weekend and then you're back in the building. So this will be the first break in 11 weeks that they've really had if they just kind of get the job done, take care of business, and beat the fuck out of them. Well, are they already on vacation?

Uh-oh. I don't think so. Give me the Patriots. Minus 12.5. You as well. We're all on this, I think. Hammer Don. How are you guys viewing this? Are you guys betting game? Are you guys bet in game? Twelve and a half, too many points. How are you viewing it? I think it's a dead

nuts under. Okay. That's Tone's best big. 4-2-0. Fresh out of a hammer. D die. It's got the other cowboy that rides in and says, you know what, I'll bet on everything. What do you mean, everything? You heard me.

All of it. Cricket. Are you sure? Yes. I'll take two. Actually, they got a good squad over there, India. They got a good team. Split two and a half wickets last week.

International play, lad. And they're taking on a team. that is just a group of Muppets from Beiru. That's what Gumpie will say. Gumpie, what do you like in this game? Are you 12 and a half too many points? You stand away from that? I like the under as well,

and the touchdown parlay of the quarterbacks is absolutely in play tonight. I imagine Drake May scores the first touchdown tonight as well. He gets loose. So Gumpy just made four bets in his head. Also, we're just talking about random sports. I like WVU minus five and a halfers, pit in college basketball

tonight. How about that? Okay. Any other sports we want to venture into? Is Crooks playing the night? I'd like to bet on her over. Is that positive? College sports parlay should not be happening. Crooks seemingly We like support. We like support. Their team will win to get.

I don't like the props on the college games. Can't have it. I don't like it. I think it's not good. It's ripe. It's too ripe for a bad situation. It's already happened multiple times too. Got to play defense here. We got to play defense at some sort. But you're taking away something that's really, okay, well, we would like it to survive forever, though.

Like, we would like this to continue to survive, so we're going to have to adapt. I think the college one is very scary. Yeah. Not that the professional, she's unbelievable, AJ. Have you seen this? Have you been watching this or following along with this story? Oh, yeah, she started popping up my algorithm and then, yeah, watching these highlights. Like, she's killing.

Fuck it. Her little sweet little turnaround step back she hits, obviously in the paint, like good luck stopping her. Yeah, you said she started popping into your algorithm? Me too. I appreciate it too. Did you see Hannah Hidalgo? Did you see this? Yes. Yes. Dude, women's college hoops is outrageous

right now. She broke a record. Most points in Notre Dame school history which obviously there's been a lot of grades. Most steals in the history of college basketball, both men's and women's in a game. Yeah, just absolutely insanity on the court by Hannah Hidalgo, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, 16 steals.

That's like a season worth of steals for a lot of people you feel like, isn't it? Yes. It really is. And she also, she beat the Zips 12-0-0, I think, in the second quarter. I think she won 12-0-0-0 over the Zips, just her 12-them, nothing, nobody else scored. Man. Yeah, I mean, where did I see it?

I saw it on like, Good Morning America, one of those morning shows, they highlighted her. Hannah Doggin, they talked about her being like one of the next big superstars in college basketball. Well, then there's a Caitlin Clark up there in Fairfield playing for the stags, I guess, Connor said. Yeah, Megan Anderson, she's averaging 33 again. game. For shoots, the woman stag team has been good for a little bit here. So now their recruiting classes have gotten much better. And Megan Anderson, she's a junior now. Like, genuinely, there's a chance of stags here going around. I mean, they're the, I think, 11 seed in the tournament last year. It's not like they've been bad. And Gumpy, let's go to men's college basketball.

West Virginia, tonight over Pitt. We got a good team. Hey, we brought that coach in who's really good at coaching that stuff. Yeah, both teams are 3 and 0. They both looked really good, actually. Yeah, and the coach for West Virginia, that guy can coach the hell out of the basketball game. I love that coach Gumpy. Yeah, I wish I knew his name, too. That's some bitch from North Texas. Yeah, Ross Hodge. Yeah, Coach Hodge.

Of course. Listen, you said, too, as if I didn't know his name. I know this, man. I met him. I met this man. I respect this man. He's got a damn good fucking basketball team, this man. And I like the way he builds.

I guess we play great defense. I guess it is a very difficult thing. That's Rosh Hodge football basketball. To score against us. I think if I'm remembering accurately, whenever we hired him, I guess it's a ground and pound basketball team here. I mean, and going to be good quickly

is what I've been told. And on that note, Coach Hodge is going to do that for him. You've been damn good. And West Virginia's former head coach Darren DeVries, I've been watching Indiana. They look like it looked to be pretty good this year. Oh, yes, his boy playing? Yeah, his boy's been lighten up

the bucket. Yeah, I'm sure he is. His boy is a good fucking basketball player. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. We saw that at West Virginia for four games or whatever it was. He's a great player. He is. Indiana has looked very good earlier. It beat Marquette this weekend. Yeah.

And West Virginia's really happy that we could have him for a year for you guys or for Indiana to get ready and hire him and his boy and his boy, which we thought was potentially going to lead us to a final four. But now we got Coach Hodge. He's got fucking tough team this year. That's right. Tough son bitch. They'll chew glass on the wood.

They'll chew wood on glass. They don't care. That's what the team does. They kick ass. Okay. AJ, that's West Virginia football or basketball. Where's Bob Huggin? Bring Huggy Bear back.

So where? I don't know. Anywhere. We need him coaching in the NCAA tournament come March. I don't. All right. Yeah, maybe. Well said.

I don't know. He had a hell of a run. There was a lot that happened. But obviously, West Virginia. His teams played hard. His teams played hard. We know that. West Virginia, Cincinnati, obviously, a lot of great wins.

A lot of things happened there towards the end. but mountaineers, you know, thank him for his time. As do, University of Cincinnati, I would assume. If this ball falls here, Gumpy's hitting all four of his betsy's. Boom, boom. Okay. All right. It's for you, Gumpf.

Oh, shit, Gumpie, I'm sorry. Oh, no. Oh, put it to the ball. Run it back. Oh, go into the abyss. Do one for, do one for Tonga. Let's see if Chris Tonga gets in the paint tonight. Can you shoot one for him?

Yeah, dude. Yeah, D lineman. Oh, yeah. big fullback. I love, I love big Oos and I get to use them. Uh-huh. They make throwing a ball. Yeah, exactly.

Vrable has two touchdowns against the Jets in his career. Oh, no. Same mess. Yeah. Maybe next week, Tunga. No. No, no, for Tonga. Okay.

Yeah. Yep. Boom. Oh, that's probably plus 3,500. Just had to shoot it, you know? That just made he's scoring the second touchdown of the game. Oh. Okay.

So now we're, see, here's another bed. Boom. I see what we're talking about. out here is like six, seven different bets that could eventually hit, and the universe just told us they should. Got a new game out here. I don't know if you saw it. Somebody sent it in. It's just a round thing that's sitting at the free throw line. Pretty good little game.

Oh, there's two. Yeah, so I think you set it up like Cornhole. I think it is set up like Cornhole. Okay, so you've got a little hacky sacks four per team, and they toss it, and if it lands on top of the board, it's one point. If it goes in the hole, it's three points, much like Cornhole or any of the other games that are kind of similar to this, horseshoes or whatever. but if it falls off, you get a kick because it's a hacky set.

You can hack it. So I think you're trying to throw it to make it in the hole and then you're just trying to play a little defense with the feet. We put a couple, I don't want to say mileage on these things yesterday, but it feels like this is a good idea for a game. It feels like this is a very good idea for a game. We were playing it pretty good yesterday, and it just got sent to the office.

Whoever created this, I have a good idea. I think you've got a good idea here, AJ. Good hacker. so you have is it two on two on two like uh like cornhole you play teams same you're yeah opposite ends so if it's falling off the if it if you they throw haggis like it falls off the board you can kick it where into the hole try to make it one hole or put it on top of the board oh that's sweet yeah that'd be fun yeah it's good game and then also you know if you accidentally overthrow also can be an half hoop if you want nice the only bad shot is short because that's tough to get to short is tough to get to because you go

operate the entire thing but that thing's rolling off you can even do like a little scoopy to roll it back on yeah I started to get the hang of it a little it's good game I think it's good hacky sack not the easiest to toss it's a weird size and weight it's a weird size yeah you probably because you want to like how you hold a cornhole bag like you want to you throw a little spin to it yeah that'd be hard with the hacky sack yeah so you're going I think I want like this one here but I think I saw some uh some of this right here little finger rolls I was doing forward forward under hands uh before the show today you're doing Pong toss.

I didn't even think about that. Tony, very consistently pong tossing that thing close to the hole. Oh, has the office found a game maybe that can get them to the title? Yeah, exactly. Is that what you think it is, Spopsy? Is that what they think it is? I prefer U-Ball over this game. Really?

Yeah. Just at first glance, I would agree. You got to play. I don't hate it. I just, I don't fucking like it. hacky sack. Me neither. I was never a hacky sack. And you said that. So I mean, I guess soccer. I played soccer. Yeah, exactly. I didn't.

You know, so it's like anything footwise because, I mean, I guess it's not really that much juggling, but yeah, I mean. You definitely have to have feet right. I, uh, coordination. Which I mean, you know, I'm not a fucking baby deer. I think I could do it, but just you ball. It's good sport.

It's good. It's good sport. Some athleticism. Some athleticism over here, someone say. This is how it goes in the office though we play a game we burn it to the ground and then oh new game over here we burn that one to the ground and we just kind of go in a little cycle here well you ball it is the thing about you ball is I don't think it's been burned to the ground it's just you and pat are so fucking good that it's just at the point where okay who the fuck's gonna win nobody except for pat

and fuck which this game can easily turn it into as well no I'm terrible with my feet so I'm trying to avoid this foxing was bad he almost kicked the thing like never been That's good news. Yeah, that's the, yeah. Come on, Fox. You start working. We'll get better. You start juggling.

World Cups are on a corner. True. I assume that game's not going to get played. It's a good game, though. We like to let whoever knows that it's a good game. But it's, I don't know. I think there's a chance of it. The good thing with a game like this, actually, is you could, in theory, kind of cross it up here.

So while you ball games going on, you can play it this way. that is a good point two at the same time so it could kind of be like the precursor to actual U-ball because you're still kind of shooting it getting into balls still so you can play it

vertically perpendicular to the stage while U-ball is going on this way Reval Ronde is the name of the game it's a fun new lawn game I'd say developed by indie based play life nation hell yeah indie oh sick I didn't know that was the case

essentially you have two round playing boards on once again we get things shipped here we open them or don't open them you know just kind of like a hit or a miss open it could be cool let's go ahead and do that uh open it could be terrible let's act like we never saw that and start that thing away and don't open it happen sometimes those things never get seen so we are not saying you should send something here and that it will definitely get seen but if you do send something here and we open it there's a chance that it changes the course of the thunderdown for at least a couple days no doubt yeah those days get remembered for those people.

I mean, that's how U-Ball originated, because somebody sent us the U-ball thing that you put in the beach and then we put it in the corner, didn't use it for a while, and then we're like, all right, let's just start shooting on it, and then a game gets for him. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good time. You know, and it's great for Thunderdome Morale. Yeah. Thunder-O. Morale. Some people get a little worked up, though.

Like, D. Bone's been on quite a roller coaster with this U.Ball. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Remember, he was taking it serious early. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Has he ever gotten off the ground and legally tipped a ball? Oh, no.

He's not going to like that. I've watched him actually do a couple reverse. A couple reverse dunks against me before. That was the only time I saw it. But does he know you have to be in the air when you tip it, though? I don't feel like it does. I think you are talking about the most recent footage that was debuted by our U-Bow insider Bruce Brown. You know, good if it goes off the golf cart.

He's down. He's nowhere near up. That one's a close one. Foxy had a photo shot in New York, want to zoom in photo. Bruce could have been up on our last one. You're supposed to be up on all three of those tips, but the effort was so immaculate that we had to really give them everything they had. Yeah, very down and then more down.

And... That one's up. I'm flying right there. You're right. But this counted, by the way, and that's a U-ball difference. Exactly. Gentleman's game. That's good effort right there.

That is good effort. It was 10-3 at that time, I think. First golf cart point. It was nowhere near a league. Where to stay with it? Or you stay with the point. That's right. Mental toughness.

That's right. That's what they showed. And what's their name? What is it? Bruce's bone? Yeah, I think it is. Brown bone? Brown bone.

There is. Oh, nice. I think that's what the name is. I don't know. It might be workshoping out. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. Bone and Brown would kind of be better.

Oh, yeah. Just like bone and butts. Yeah. They were a good team. They left each other. It did. Nobody's talking about the U-Ball controversy behind the scenes. after this show ends, a lot happens.

And there's been teams that have come together in great hope and separated and great despair. And Bone and Butts had a good run there early. And I don't think I've seen them on a court together since. Have you got to the bottom of that? Well, Butch has a pretty powerful new team, actually. What's that? Tony.

Like, you stole them the other day. So, like, I mean. Free agents is crazy. It's like the transfer portal. It really is like the transfer portal. There's not a lot of honor in this office. What? Tony, you were throwing games, if you do recall.

That was a Mickey Mouse game. Whoa. U-Ball, he's talking about. That game should have never been played. It should never been tipped off. It's all about you. And that's the problem. We need to be the solution.

You're right. And that's U-Ball. All right. Let's get the hell out of here. Let's enjoy week 11 of the NFL season kicking off this evening in the AFC East on Amazon Prime. I'll be live tomorrow from Akrish. Field as I head to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for college game day.

Pitt hosting, Notre Dame. We're outside Accrescher, I believe Roberto Clemente Park, which is along the river. It's a great grassy area. It's supposed to be perfect weather. I think football is going to be celebrated in a huge way on Saturday, and I can't wait to get back and enjoy the hell out of it. College game days, atmospheres this year have been amazing. Yeah, delivering.

yeah lubbock texas all time all time nuts that's actual that was like jm u vibes exactly yeah exactly and what you guys couldn't see what you did on the drone shots was the other yeah the one time they showed it it was like holy shit like how deep it was it was we had a crowd watching us like it was uh like i think they had actual like like seats and bleachers like kind of going back that way so stage obviously everybody sees this way back that way there was a lot of people that were like kind of watching us. I'm like, do they always have these bleachers? Did they bring this in for this? It was like, it was pretty, it was awesome. And you've heard everybody talk about it. Herbie came out and talked about it. Stanford Steve talked about it. Obviously, I talked about

it. It's like when you go to those places that, you know, their team is great for first time, long time. It's like they want to enjoy and celebrate the shit out of that. And they want everybody to know that they're celebrating the shit out of that. It's like Pitt can still win the ACC. Notre Dame, if they lose, they're out of the college football playoff. This is like massive implications and also 20 years it's been since college game day was at a pick game in Pittsburgh so it should be, I think

football time, the celebrity guest picker dog absolutely dog. Has that been announced yet? No. No, it has not been. I will announce it is not Mark Caboli. Fuck! I thought I saw a poster. Yeah.

I saw a lot of things. Yeah, the AI renderings of him eating a poop sandwich are on call for. Hold on. Hold on. We got some breaking news. We got some breaking news. We got some breaking news. The NFL sent a memo to team officials today saying that in light of recent gambling scandals in other sports, the league has worked with lawmakers, regulators, and sports betting partners in recent weeks to limit and where possible prohibit prop bets in the NFL.

Okay, we're playing defense in real time here. The amount of people that have to okay that, lawmakers take forever, regulators take forever. Sports betting partners can probably be a little bit more nimble, but normally it takes them forever because the regulators and the lawmakers take forever. So the fact that they're playing defense in real time on all three sides of this thing, I love. I want to let everybody know that. And I think Adam Silver, whenever he was on the show a couple weeks back, he said that we're definitely talking to our sports partners about like less meaningful props even being an option. Like, why are these things even here? One and a half over under. It feels like it's too rigable. Let's play defense against this

in the future. I love that the NFL has been able to accomplish this. And shout out to the regulators and lawmakers that it feels like they get paid by the day and they, everything seemingly in their world takes forever. So them in real time trying to make sure everything can continue to go that we all would like and see is really good news. Yeah, I've kind of noticed that on just with everything going on seeing some of those bets. It's like I do love betting on, you know, player to catch a pass on this drive or a player to have X amount of yards on this drive. But those are, some of the bets that are just like completely unnecessary. You truly

don't need them. They do damn near just set you up to get you back in there on the app, but there's plenty of those, and those are like the common ones. There's a bunch of other, you know, more uncommon ones that they're just pointless. You really don't need. Yeah, I like to play in defense, AJ.

Like when Adam Silver said I'm talking to the sports books partners to see if we can get rid of things, I'm like, oh, I like that you guys are trying. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah. I mean, you have to. Like, that's the one thing that could really, truly hurt the NFL, the NBA, any, like these franchise, like, yeah, we have to believe, we have to

know that they're legit and it's real and they're not sitting there manipulating games and things like that is, like, what other, what's another threat to the NFL than this? Then if they feel like, okay, we actually have players throwing games. Here's some more details. Inherently objectionable markets or bets that are

inherently or designed to be derogatory or inflammatory or otherwise based on subject matter against public policy, player injuries, fan safety, misconduct, okay, officiating related markets or bets based on officials or officiating assignments, penalties, replays. Okay, I don't think any of these are on any of the actual sports books. These are all offshore accounts, determinable by one person in one play, based on outcomes,

100% determinable by one person in one play. Example, kicker to miss field goal attempt, quarterback's first pass to be incomplete, et cetera. These are what we're speaking of. I don't know why they even put those first two. Those are for offshore accounts. Offshore accounts aren't going to list any. Bruce, do you have an update on that? They could be potentially trying to get ahead of the sort of prediction market stuff as well.

The polymarket now getting into this where it's yes, no, basically, type of stock investment. And for Super Bowl stuff, you can bet on like how many penalties there will be. And that's controllable by one person or one group of people, I guess. So, like, that's an interesting thing. Predetermined, predetermined outcomes directly related to on-field competition. Example will quarterback start this week? Will teams first play from scrimmage be a run or pass? This does feel like the prediction.

markets kind of getting ahead of it on what's possible on those versus what's possible in sports books because the prediction market world is obviously going to be the brand new thing here over the next three years I think two three years it's awesome from what we have seen there's certainly some downfalls there's certainly some downfalls but like just being able to kind to try to predict something and it's viewed as a stock as opposed to a bet so like you get in when nobody else thinks something's going to happen, yes, no, wise. And then you can cash out. You don't even have to, like, when everybody else starts feeling your way.

So you can, like, ride how you think, like, the public's going to feel. It's a very interesting, you're talking about talking about everything. Reality TV shows, all this type of shit. So it's a fascinating new world that's about to come that I think a lot of people are going to be interested in personally, just strictly because whenever I was showing it, I was like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah. This is sweet.

And it's not a lot. You don't need to be better. And, like, it's, I don't know, it's, like, fun. It's like, you know, you just kind of, if you're investing, it's like, let's do this. So them getting ahead of that's very smart. Yeah. That's a very smart, because everybody's going to be doing it, I think. Without a doubt.

And like you said, I mean, you know, like, we'll see what this evolves into. But, like, something needed to be done right now, too. They couldn't really afford to, because the NFL's, I mean, outside of a couple of guys last year, like, coming off what happened in the NBA and everything, like, something needed to be done immediately. Yeah. Hopefully all the leagues are doing this. of all the leagues. Sy Young winner, Paul Skings.

Hey, Paul. Proud of you, Paul. Hey, he was happy. See that? He was a huge reaction. I know, I saw it. He won rookie of the year, no reaction. Win's his first, Cy Young.

Here's rookie of the year. You did it. Yep, I did. Thank you so much, Livy. Awesome. Livy's been here, obviously, alongside of me this entire time. Literally, they chatted with us

during that first year, first run. Hey, what do you guys is hobbies? We just kind of nap and do baseball. Yeah, we just kind of nap and do baseball, man. This guy's fully committed. And then he went to Cy Young last night and big smile. Yes, toughness. Yeah.

Pugs Libby, thank you. Love you, thank you. Mom, hell yeah. We did it. We're happy. Everybody's clapping. Look, everybody's clapping. We're happy.

Okay, we did it. And on that note, that's what Paul Skeen's loves. Paul Schoen wants all the cameras. Yeah, exactly. He wants all the lights on them. He wants the microphone, literally as loud as it can, coming out of his mouth. That's all he cares about. And it's amazing that he's able to win his Sye Young when all he cares about is all the glitz

and glamour that come alongside being the best pitcher in fucking baseball. This guy is outrageous. They've called it since he was at LSU. I assume the LSU people would say actually called it since the Air Force whenever we saw him. Very newer pitcher. He wasn't pitching his entire life. He was a catcher. So he actually has a relatively young arm in the grand scheme of the conversation of pitchers

because of the reps that he missed whenever he was younger, where all these other guys have been pitching since their little kids, basically. So he's only getting better and better, seemingly. And the way he's talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates, fucking nobody talks about the Pittsburgh Pirates. Ty, what are your thoughts on him winning in Sy Young? And was this obvious, I guess, in your guys' world? I mean, he...

And what is the Say Young? He was the best pitcher in your respective league, and he was a unanimous winner. So, yeah, I mean, like, his stats... Or I guess I shouldn't say his stats. His stats were unbelievable. shitload of strikeouts, very low ERA. But kind of the thing we talked about all year with him is, you know,

usually the guy who wins the Cy Young is winning 20 to 25 games. And what, he went 8 and 9? 10 and 10. So, I mean, he just like, yeah, Conner's got the stats right here. I mean, the first guy since 1918 to post a sub to ERA with a non-winning record, which is kind of what, you know, if you're a Pirates fan, it makes you sick to your stomach because this guy just had one of, the best seasons in

100 years and they didn't come anywhere close to making the playoffs. And that's the big thing with him too is coming off LSU. It's like you want to see because his stuff is unbelievable. You want to see this guy pitching in the playoffs and in the biggest moments. So hopefully they can do a little bit more to help him because he is

very rare. You got a guy I mean obviously anything can happen but every time he pitches it's like you feel like he's going to strike out 10 guys and not give up any runs and you're going to win the game. You'll have a bad inning against the team, and that entire team's fan base will talk shit. That is who Paul Skeen's is.

He has a bad game. Everybody is seizing the opportunity to say, because every other game. Far and few between. Since he got here, it's just been dominant. In the Pittsburgh Pirates, let's go to one of their biggest fans, AP Tone. Are they going to invest it maybe in some wood, get this guy to the playoffs? Because, God, damn, it'd be nice to see this guy in a big game.

And PNC Park in a big game atmosphere would be electrified. the best. I was there in 2014. The wildcard, it was awesome. No, they won't. I mean. No, but they're going to get a haul from the Boston Red Sox. And that's the coolest part about it, too, is that the other side young,

Terrick Scouble from Detroit, he's also rumored to be going to Boston. So at least in the end, it is awesome news that both of the best pitchers in baseball will be rewarded with massive contracts in a real baseball town. And for the Boston Red Sox. Look, I'm just

No, rumoring these things, you? No, Buster Only was the one rumoring Terrick Scoobel. And with Paul Skeens, that is based solely on the fact that he knows Fenway Park's greatest baseball stadium in America. And he looked at the whole entire. I mean, when he actually went and pitched against the ball. He walked around, looked at the green giant. He said, he wants to be there. So you didn't hear the audio from that.

He said, boy, look at this shit. What? I didn't hear that. Shit. Is that what he said? Did he say, wow, they really talk about this in such high regard? Yeah, right. Is that what he was saying? Yeah, and he was like, look at this piece of shit.

Gumpy actually rented his apartment on top of that thing for what, three, four days straight there this past season. We're putting Schino right next to him because Schenis is walking around. He's not, maybe he's saying that, but he also said like, well, it doesn't smell like poop like Pittsburgh. Oh! Dead bodies and, wow, this is incredible. Look, I'm just telling you what's being talked about in baseball. Yeah, I bet they are. talking about that. Paul Skeen said I'm ready to be the guy

who turns around the pirates and we love them for them. Maybe we do pay school. Because what? The Tigers were on a hundred million dollars off. They need to bone up and go pay the polar bear. You know, hey. Alonzo? Give Pete Alonzo $250 million over the next five years and let this guy hit fucking 50

homers next year, okay? That's what they need to do. Okay, is DH happen for the pirates? Both leagues, yeah. But listen. Polar bear I mean I'm at the top of my head I don't know who was playing Chorbo is available too

We get both Yep And you have And here's the thing Hold on We got Swarbo and a polar bear And Paul Schoen You have to spend

About $500 million this off season But at least Yes you could go Get both those guys right now He doesn't have seven springs anymore To go get 500 million dollars But he sold it for $125 So we get one of those guys

Guess where those two are rumored to be going yeah where's that Shoreboro wants to come home he was already with the Red Sox he wants to come home and polar bear I guess said I'm shipping up to Boston bitch

Eddie I didn't hear him say that fortunately I saw a report yesterday that Skeens are telling everybody he wants to go to the Yankees so that's tough Who's skiing that? He's just hanging out walking around the report said yeah that's exactly in the locker

I'm saying a couple teammates have heard Skeens said he can't stop talking about the Yankees walk around the club I play for the 80s. I won't entertain that yet. I won't dive into it, but I saw and I just said, yeah, it makes sense. We're right on track here. Yep. Just a couple more years. A couple more years. We had to do the same thing with Gary Cole,

you know. If he was a New York Yankee. Best pitching staff in the history. Yeah, which is why I can't even. I can't even entertain. We're two years ahead of schedule right now. We just got to buy our time. Wait a little bit. He's going to win another Scy Younger, too. Exactly. Exactly. And then, I can't wait to

see him holding up that Yankees jersey at the press conference. 800 million dollars. Yeah, again, that's we're talking two, three years from now, but it's going to be special. There was some positive reporting today about the pirates. Mark Feinstand reported that there is a team that might be

a surprise spender this offseason and it was the pirates that he was talking about. Wow, Pirates General Manager Ben Charrington. Oh, I'm sorry. Yep, it's all right. Ben Charrington made it clear this week that he has no plans to trade, newly crowned Sight Young Award winner Paul Skeen's this offseason. In fact, this offseason.

Pittsburgh's looking to take things in the other direction. According to sources, the Pirates plan to be spenders on the free agent market, something they haven't done ever. The left side of the infield in the corner outfield spots seem like the most obvious places for the Pirates to target. Though the club hasn't signed a free agent hitter to a multi-year deal since 2015, when they get John Jassau to you. Eight million dollar contract. Hey, John Jassau was actually a decent ball player. That was the boy off here.

Two years, eight million. He's a good utility guy. 30 to 40 million projected in payroll for 2026. How much are you guys paying? Why do they say they're surprised spenders if they're going to spend 30 million? Because they're not going negative, I think, is the surprise. So that they're spending at all is a surprise. Not that they're going to be like a surprise contender for anybody working.

the fuck. Okay. We just got to clarify some of these things. Hey, what did I tell you yesterday? Two days ago. A lot of things, done. You can't take anything that man says behind the glass when it's related to baseball and the Yankees, seriously at all. Yeah, you're right. He's super biased

with the information that he provides it, when he provides it. I was talking about the pirates. Yeah, but we know what you were doing. You were shilling for the organization. You wanted us to read that so we would say, they're going to spend $8 million bucks over the next two years. That was a long play by you to say, How much the Yankees pay their highest paid guy a year?

What judge is making? 40, 50. Yeah, close, yeah, somewhere around there. 50 million a year? One player. Now, he's superhuman. Yeah, we've got a couple guys that are making. How much is Gary Coleman?

I think he's like 34, 35 maybe. Okay, it's 35 million. That's 50 million. It's 85 million. Is Stanton? I mean, how much do you know? Oh, yeah. 30, 40?

Yeah. Mike. John, the artist formerly known as Mike Stanton. He's 40? I don't know if he's that much, but he's making a lot. He's making a lot. He's making 30. The Pittsburgh Pirates expected payroll is to be what? It was 90 last year.

30 to 40 and they're going to pay for it. An offseason spend. Yeah, an offseason spending. Oh. They're not the last, by the way. So they're going to get 100 and something. Just as well, they're not last. They're not even second to last. What are we?

Or third last. Probably 30. who's the last the A's spend less and their fans were protesting them even existing right what that kind of the thing they don't really have they're going to Vegas

yeah they're leaving time Rocky Rockies and White Sacks right you guys might not even be third yeah thank you might be fourth so on all right fucking they got Sy Youngs last is the Washington Nationals

followed by the Miami Marlins Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Guardians and then the Pittsburgh Pirates so guardians somehow get in there yeah they do one manager of the year back-to-back seasons. Hey, your team

doesn't pay shit to anybody and you guys win. You're good. Let's give you an award. Can't give it to Roberts. He won the thing back-to-back years. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to do it again. Good chance. They got a bunch of salary freeing up and none of their players that contributed.

Red Sox gets scuba. Look at. There you go. Unless the pirates. Paul skins, we've got a lot of young one. Ten games a year. Jared Jones, Bubba Chandler coming back. Oh, boy, watch out, boys.

Hondo boys, all the way back. Three of them. They all got hurt? One of them did. Okay. Might be a little bit too much on the Hyundai's arms. We're electrifying for your team and

our team. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life for us thing together. See you guys tomorrow. I'll be in Accresure. Hell, yeah. I'm sure.

It's going to be hard not to call this place, Heinz. You should. Just do it. It's fucking Hans. They said they weren't going to get rid of ketchup bottle they fucking did kind of like we said it would

yeah like joe put that thing back no remember there's a whole song and dance i don't think it's back up there remember they were walking at don the street and take it in the corner yeah they were like it's actually staying they're gonna put it back in and akrushar's like who said that we paid for the whole fucking thing yeah that's a problem he's just gonna put the ex you're gonna put your ex

girlfriend up here there's an act sure uh location right next to my house i egg it every time i go by invest a lot of money in the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, well, I don't care. Who do you think is buying food for Pittsburgh? I believe it's a Michigan-based company. So basically Michigan owns the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, boy.

It's crazy because Fenway owns the Pittsburgh Penguins. That's cool. Does Fenway still own the Penguins? I don't know. It's the worst ownership group of all time. Even though the pens are in first. They just tried to buy a Spanish soccer team, but they backed out at the very end.

Yeah, because they need to get a player for penguins. And they saw what JJ Warr was doing. They're like, why the fuck will we do that? Yeah, especially the Espenio in the morning, we drink coffee. And they have their run. And then we play the soccer. We win everyone. Espanio.

Espanio. Another goal for Espanio. Do they suck, or are they still good? They lost to Villa Real 2-0. An international break right now. Oh, okay. Of course. Burnley also lost 3-2 to West Ham.

Oh. Can't lose to them. They're getting close to the relegation zone once again. Wait, what? Burnley's going back down? No, they're not there right now, but West Ham was right below him, so it was a game they really couldn't lose and they lost. I thought they were top of the table.

I thought Champions League were thinking. For Espaniol, Burnley, not so much. Wednesday night soccer from JJ Watt would be awesome. Oh, they're good. They're very close. What is it? The bottom three are gone, right? Yes, sir.

So West Ham beat them last game three, too. Oh, we're in the relegations on. They're treading water. How many games left? 27. What? Oh, Jesus Christ. All right.

All right. Season just started. We'll just sit together. Have a good one tonight. We're all on the New England Patriots minus 12 and a half. We love you. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. And, hey, we're just trying to do it right.

Hell yeah. Hell, yeah. Yep. I think we're doing okay. All right, not your right. Not everything they said into microphones. Necessary reflects the opinions of the peers. Team on me, team on three, one, two, three, team.

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