The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1453 - FIRST 15: NFL Week 11 Recap

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys break down the biggest storylines of week 11 of the NFL season in the FIRST 15. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We have a segment every single Monday, every single overreaction Monday, sorry. But the top five headlines coming out of the Sunday slate. Now, we don't like to do scripted stuff. You know, we're kind of just a free-flowing conversation daily. It causes us to step into some stuff everyone. Okay, if we're more structured, we probably wouldn't be in the conversations that end up happening about us on a regular basis. Maybe even the Jeopardy Clue question, you know,

if everything was a little bit more scripted and structure. but we feel candid conversation is the best way to go about learning about stuff, entertaining about stuff, and informing people about stuff. So we don't normally do this, but we said we're a football show. We need to do what football teams do. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the first 15. Now, this is driven by Ram. It's not first 15 minutes, no, it's the first 15 scripted plays that we have.

And in our case, it's the first five, the big five headlines coming out of a Sunday. We put the clock down the corner. Last week, I think we won 40-some minutes. We'll see how this one goes. Start the clock right now. Number five headline coming out of week 11, Sunday slate, the Bears, the Kings of the North. Now, we got a big number four right there on the top left corner of that particular graphic, but it is number five on a headline, and that just tells you the headlines have been fluid this morning.

We've been trying to learn about what the top five are, and the Bears getting a shout-out is certainly warranted of the conversation. Caleb Williams and his Bears team are doing something special. Ben Johnson came into Chicago with a whole culture that he had to shift. culture he had to change. And what did he do? He did it. First couple weeks weren't easy. First couple weeks weren't easy. Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, these guys never going to get along. Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, these men never going to be able to be a winning tandem in Chicago. Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, will they ever see the same? One guy wears fingernail polish. The other guy wants to run his face through any wall that he sees. Are they going to be able to?

They have. And they are now the kings of the NFC North with. week 11 just wrapping up for them. Now, it's not just their offense. It's not just their defense. It's their special teams as well. Fourth quarter, Don won. Minnesota Vikings thought they had a massive win. J.J. McCarthy makes some huge throws in the fourth quarter. Huge completion. Jordan Addison goes absolutely crazy. Big return. The Chicago Bears, Cairo Santos. Snakes won in the left. Now, it looked like that thing was hooking. Somehow that thing stayed true. And now the Chicago Bears are sitting at a wonderful 7-3 record as the top of the NFC North. D. Butch, when you see the Chicago Bears team, there's some stats you need to look at.

That's their fifth win when they're trailing in the final two minutes. That's tied with the 2016 Lions and the 2011 Broncos for the most since the 1970 merger. Okay, so that is literally just already historic. We got a lot of games left to play in this entire thing. Their defense, good at everything. Defense is unstoppable. Special teams, making kicks, big returns. Tori's a great punter.

Can the Chicago Bears win a Super Bowl right now? Is Ben Johnson showing up as the bell of the ball in a coaching cycle for good reason? He immediately gets there in the midway. The monsters of the midway are all of a sudden back in the Super Bowl conversations. I don't know if we put them in Super Bowl conversations just yet, but we know getting to the Super Bowl starts with getting a playoff game, a playoff home game at that, and they're in position to win their division. And we talked about how would this marriage work, how would Caleb Williams operating as Ben Johnson offense?

He's still figuring that out, but there's defense. You mentioned it. Dennis Allen, leading the league right now and takeaways. Got three guys right at the top of the league with Byer Edmonds and Wright when it comes to leading league and interceptions. And they picked on nine, J.J. McCarthy, whoever the hell was out there throwing the ball. Even though he did stick with it, stay in the fight and make some plays late. They figured out. You mentioned that third phase of the game.

And this is the dynamic kickoff showing. the impact on games and their outcomes because they had a chance to win the game, the Vikings, they went up a point, and then boom, and one play of the game, you kick it, dovernaic comes out and bring it to midfield, and they figure it out. You know, the president hates the kickoff, but on that note, have to throw a strike.

It's like baseball tie. Yeah. You have to land it in the strike zone, basically. You have to get out of the game. You have to cover a kick. Now, granted, there's going to be teams that don't like it, but the Chicago Bears viewed it as an opportunity, and they get exactly what they're looking for.

They probably knew old buddy had been kicking, it into the corner they get a stretch take that thing wide side of the field couple good blocks three good blocks and all of a sudden they're wide ass open getting almost back in the field goal range and cairo santos been kicking a long time football gods blessed him on that football gods that thing was hooking then it almost appears if the football gods just kind of blew it in there because they saw some of the throws jj was making and they were saying hey listen this team cannot win okay and that both that ball's still moving while he kicks it go back can go back a little bit I did not know that ball was still spinning.

So that ball is still kind of spinning from Tori here as he's trying to fix. Lace is directly right whenever he catches it. He's trying to spin it and catch it. Normal miss. Okay, so even more so. Wow. Ball spinning like that, very hard to kick. I mean, obviously you're trying to hit a sweet spot.

Sweet spot is moving while you're kind of kicking it. I don't fake stats. 87% of the time, that is a miss. Okay. That is certainly a miss, especially with the ball moving. So Cairo's mental toughness to stick through that kick without giving up and bailing on it crazy. But I think, once again, the football guts. I think it was the football

God saying, nah, this guy's throwing a ball in the front row of the stance. This guy's throwing, check down 14 yards over this guy's head. We cannot allow him to win. Now, I think JJ in big moments needed a touchdown through one. Yeah. JJ needs one. He does it. So if JJ

can do what he does late in games in the biggest moments throughout the entirety of the game, I think the Vikings have something special, you know, and that's kind of what they say about nine. That's what they say about JJ. And on the flip side, Caleb Williams does Caleb Williams shit every single week. That offense is obviously going to be very dynamic, no matter what, because the way

Ben Johnson can kind of script things up and play. The defense, you talked about it insane. Are the Green Bay Packers and everybody else in the North, a little scared of De Kings, which could be De Bears for what? The next 20 years of Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, Ty? I don't know if I'd say scared,

but at this point, like, it's no longer a fluke. Like, the proof is in the pudding. I think most fans in the NFC North just assumed going into the season. We understood Ben Johnson was the bell of the ball, it's like we've seen this with the Bears time and time again over the last several years. But now it's

to the point, like they win these close games and I think what we've seen is that stuff typically, I don't know if you can play a whole year and sustain that, but that stuff doesn't usually flip in a year. It'd be like next year is the year where they lose all these one score games. Like they're doing it and like you mentioned, I mean,

they have a pretty tough schedule ahead of them, but like they just continue to win. This is not a team you want to see, you know, have the ball down a point or two in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they're very calloused. You know, they've got a lot of close games. Here you have each division leader, okay, in the NFC, and the road

that they have left. And you talk about that Chicago Bears team. We got Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Bronze. Now, that's at home. If that was in Cleveland, that's a whole different ball game. And I don't know how I missed it on Friday. I don't know if you saw that when I was talking about the Browns, Ravens. I didn't even put together

that that was going to be a night game. 4.05 kickoff in Cleveland. That's going to be a night game. They're going to have lights on there. Cleveland's defense in Cleveland like historic that's a tough out like for anybody

that's going to be even if their record remains what it is which is not another win like three wins two wins whatever it is four wins who knows what they're going to do

a quarterback what do you mean they need to play all three quarterbacks every single alternate snaps all week all week they need to do that but the bears

you talk about the Packers twice obviously NFC North football Lions last week Niners are in there Brock Purdy looked unbelievable. Then the Philadelphia Eagles is the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Steelers might have just found it. So when you talk about a hard

road to the playoffs, if the Chicago Bears are still the Kings of the North by the end of this run right here, let's assume they're going to win the Super Bowl. They are currently third longest, sorry, third shortest odds to win the North. Green Bay and the Lions are still ahead of

the Bears to win the division. Yeah, and I think it's because of the road we just saw. Shout out to the Bears, though. And if your team is asked and has been asked for a long time. You should view the bears right now. They might just lay an egg down to the entire match. Yeah. What the hell? So the Titans just

irrelevant. They can no longer win the division statistically. Yeah, so the sports book say we want it to let you. Week 12? Have we seen this week 12 yet? I'm sure there's been some ass teams. Yeah, when Lions were 0 and 13, I think. Yeah, and it Browns. I think we were 0.13 at one point, the Colts as well.

I remember those days. I read you, here, you came after those days. You don't even know, brother. You don't even know. Browns, still a chance, bros. Yeah, still a chance for sure for the Browns. That one seems going to get dark soon, too. That one's potentially going to get out of there soon.

But the Bears, long road. Good luck to them. And currently, Duckings are to North, so let's celebrate the fact that you can be asked for a long time and then be DeKings very soon. I guess Chicago's showing that. Now, let's go to the number four headline, shall we? Oh, did you see it? Wow.

Did you see it? There's been a Josh alien Allen sighting. This dude is not from here. This man looks like a big country bumpkin, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. He's got huge hands, bigger than the average Joe, bigger than the bigger Joe. Yeah.

He's got more athleticism than the average, more athleticism than the athletic, Joe. Mm-hmm. This man's taller than the average. This man's taller than the taller. This dude's got a better arm than the average. He's got a better arm than a super arm, haven't you? Yep.

This guy's special. Montana? This guy's MVP. Uh-huh. This guy's historic. This guy's legendary. And he's doing things that only he has done in the past. Anytime they're saying, hey, this is like the second time in history, finger roll to Dion Dawkins' good celebration.

Team chemistry seemingly very high. But whenever you're the MVP, everybody thinks like, okay, how are you going to top that? How are you going to top that? Had hard knocks. How are you going to showcase that big celebrity wedding? This guy's super celebrity. He's more just a football player, remember? That's right.

He's reading lines, you know, he's doing other stuff. I'm not just a football player, I guess. I'm a little bit more than that. Let's go ahead and pull that. Let's run that. This guy's not focused. Yeah, right. Him and Otto Graham are the only ones in the history of the game.

To go for three touchdowns on the ground, three touchdowns in the sky. In the same game, he's done it twice. Auto's only done it once. Now, at the beginning of this game, it felt like the Buck's defense had him. And at the beginning of the New England Patriots game, it felt like the Buck's defense had Drake. I'm starting to look in. I don't have a stat that, hashtag stat.

that. But I'm starting to wonder, do the Tampa Buccaneers throw everything they have at a quarterback in like the first quarter? And then it's kind of sink or swim and the good quarterbacks are able to figure it out. The bad quarterbacks are going to end up dying. Let's keep an eye in a nose to the grind center on that particular story about the buck's defense, which certainly did their thing early. But whenever you think about what Josh Allen was able to accomplish for the rest of the game and what Josh Allen was able to do, this guy's special talent. And think back to, we talked about the bears being asked for the last 10 years. Josh Allen was kind of asked the first couple years of his NFL career.

I couldn't throw a damn thing. We're talking about J.J. McCarthy throwing balls into the first row, second row. Fourth row, I saw one of them, JJ. Oh, yeah. Josh Allen was the same. I mean, Josh Allen had no idea where the ball was going. Could throw it a long way, could throw it very fast if you wanted to,

had really no clue where it was going. They bring in Stefan Diggs. He works his ass off in the offseason. He gets better and better and better, but never loses his humility or his edge. Gains a football IQ, I think, through all of the different reps, and he's still untackable. D. Butt. This guy's an alien?

He's unbelievable. doesn't he a little bit too relatable maybe when he talks he's kind of funny he's charming his personality teammates level he does you know d no he does these not's jokes yeah he does he does all these things that make it appear as if he's a oh we'll be a rancher we'll go get a couple hundred acres or a thousand acres or whatever they'll never expect it this guy could be an alien just dancing in the skies of a big country bumpkin idiot who just happens to be outrageously good at football and leadership, it seems. Yeah, you're never out of it when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen,

Raining MVP for a reason. And look, you can look at his supporting cast. A lot of people are saying it for years. You don't have the good enough pieces, talented enough pieces around it. But I like the stable running backs to have with Cook and Ty Johnson when he does in the past game. Shavers, he kind of broke out this game, had a big time game. This game was an unbelievable back and forth with Baker and Josh, but he just took it by the

horns and three touchdown passes, three touchdown rushes. You would think like a Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson or one of these quarterbacks has done it. Whenever you've done some shit in the NFL that hasn't been done since the 1950s, that's very, very impressive. And take care of, you know, he threw two interceptions twice. Yeah, last year against the Rams as well and doing it again here. And just putting a team on his back. That's what they needed. That's what he needed.

So big time play, big time win, big time game from Josh Allen. Josh Alien once again. Yeah, this guy's otherworldly. Can they win a Super Bowl? What everybody asks? I don't know. There's some stats and tributes that a team needs or attributes that a team needs

to be able to win a Super Bowl, especially what we're looking into. Do the Buffalo Beals have that right now? I don't know about all of them, but I do know the quarterback piece up there in the AFCs. That last piece, those last few plays, those like design run plays that Joe Brady got to call more of. So tough on the defense because you pick up an extra blocker

and it really becomes 11 on 11 down here. You're first and goal down here. You just like going a quarterback sweep to the right. Like that's tough for a defense because you still have to account and go with James Cook and do all this other shit and you got 17

who's just as good as any you know, top paid running back in the league when it's in the open field. So that's an unbelievable weapon for them now down in that red area. Yeah, and I like how excited he is.

Very rich. Yeah. Okay. Married, celebrity, be able to figure it all out, already accomplished, you know, hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.

Obviously, everybody will talk about that. But still like, visibly emotional and passionate about the game is what I love. That was the same about Stefan Diggs last week whenever he jumped up and did the off-side kid. I'm like, hey, that's a decision.

That is a decision that was made by a guy in a moment. And there's obviously business decisions that have happened over the time. Josh Allen's still fully invested in being a guy, and it's obvious. The AFC East is starting to get packed. Two of the top three odds-on favorites for the MVP come out of the AFC East, con man. Yeah, Josh Allen is always now the bills in it. He really is one of those guys where no matter who your quarterback is, Josh Allen is still kind of the prototype.

He is filthy. I mean, you really don't see, to dares his point, a lot of guys had quarterback running QB power with never a question if they're going to get in the end zone or not. When he runs that power, it is kind of just, okay, that's a layup. If there are, you know, seven guys in there and he needs to make one miss or he needs to carry one into the end zone, it's amazing. I think I even can say this with Bill's fans agreeing with me. Them not being able to stop the run will bite them in the ass. It is inevitable.

You're talking about, you know, New England, sure, but look at the Colts. The Colts have the MVP, you know, Jonathan Taylor. Could you imagine what Jonathan Taylor would do to a Bill's defense who just let Sean Tucker a third string running back run for 110 yards? I'm hoping it. I'm hoping it. But on the flip side, we got to see that alien dancing, which is basically the entire story of the games, I guess.

And you're right. I think Buffalo Bill's fans would say the same thing as Yukon, man. I think they would say we don't have the pieces on the D line to be able to figure this out. Can they scheme that, D butt? Can you scheme your way and to be in a better tackling defense? No. No, no, you got to have the person.

And they're banned out. I mean, scheme helps, coaching helps, but you need the personnel out there, especially when it gets to real nut cutting time down in the season. All right, let's go to the number three headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes. Spitgate. Ugh. A study on saliva sullying this sport. What's the word soli mean?

You say, hey, what do you mean by sollying something? Well, Solie means to damage the purity or integrity of or to defile. Okay. It seems like solie was actually the perfect word to describe this particular. Spickgate. Now, let's go to the game and question. Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers, long rivalry. There's been famous fights in the past

in this particular series that have caused playoff games to go a different direction. You're talking about AFC North Heat. You're talking about the toughness of Cincinnati and toughness of Pittsburgh. Two newer guys, too said rivalry. Tomorrow Chase has obviously been there for a couple of years

with Cincinnati Bengals. Jalen Ramsey just got traded at Pittsburgh Steelers. He's playing safety now full time. And it feels like that's probably the position that he should have been playing for a long time they'll be able to do a lot with him the one thing that'll be constant with jalen ramsie though he's always going to be up in your shit and jamaugh chase didn't love that i guess there was constant

bickering and then it came to it head right here and when you see oh oh jillan ramses i don't think so he says to the rough did you see that did you see that in austin briskey says you know what i don't think you guys saw let's go ahead and zoom this in a little bit more wow now

Jemar Chase was asked about this after the game in the locker room, and this is how it went down. So just in clear, you did not spit on your all, as you. That's what you're saying. I didn't spit on nobody. Okay, so then that leads to the question. Does there a chance that Jamar Chase speaks like Sergeant Slaughter? Is there a chance that he had no idea that he hopped a massive lugee on to Jalen Ramsey?

And he happened to it low, too, so he'd hit some skin. You see, this is starting to become a thing. You got the visor here, he got the thing. I'm going to make sure I get in there. Maybe Jamar Chase is just a spitty talker and an active speaker. And that, that Lugie that clearly came out of his mouth onto Jalen Ramsey was just a part of him. You, maybe he caught him a, maybe he caught him a, Oh, you know what I'm saying.

Piece of poop. Yeah, maybe a piece of poop or whatever the case is. And if he's able to breathe and run with that much saliva in his mouth naturally, that's a feat in of itself. And they should do a sports science, rest in peace on everything he's doing. doing. Jalen Ramsey said, yeah, he's lying. He's been on me, so it's up. I want to get fucking about football after that, respectfully. Respectfully, of course.

He spit on me, so it's up, so football's kind of behind it there. So let's just chit-chat about this a little bit. There does seemingly become a line in things that are allowed and not allowed. Happens in combat sports, you'll see like something said, something's done, where they're like, you want too far, you want too far. It feels like everybody in competitive sports agrees that, spitting is just something you don't do especially in the face of somebody. It's just

the biggest sign of disrespect that you could possibly do. And after hearing what Jalen said and watching what Jemar Chase did and Jamar has to deny until he does. Sure. Has to. And he might even say, I'm just at the court that he might act like that's how he speaks in this entire thing. But D-But

there's no, multiple times we've seen it this season. And it's also multiple times that we've heard everybody basically say, yeah, you've got do what you've got to do if somebody's going to spit in your face. It feels like that's just kind of the reaction we all expect if you get spit on. Yeah, that's what's surprising to me. We all saw it with the Jalen Carter one early in the season, and before that, DAC has spit on the ground, which shows you how, you know, just disrespect what the act is. Now, when it actually touches you,

whatever the response is, it's kind of warranted. I think we all agree on that. But that's the most disrespectful thing you can do. This is something that, as a player, I don't think I've ever been involved in a game where it actually happened. That's how rare it is. And now we have, like, this research, we had it here. We had it in college. I think that same week, when Jalen Carter did it. So just something you can't do. And obviously, you know, Jalen Ramsey, you want to be out there for your team.

You don't want to, you know, he's a vet. He's been an all-pro. He's a Super Bowl champ. He wants to be out there. But how will his team look at him if he didn't do that? Yeah, I mean, you got to, I mean, it's tough. You're putting a tough spot to react that way. So Jemar Chase, the precedent has kind of been set with Jalen Carter being suspended.

I hate calling for guys to be suspended. But if you do it to that guy, you kind of have to set the standard because you can't just have guys spit on people. Yeah, I mean, we talked about a little bit with Darren. pain last week. I'm assuming his game check number is massive. Now it is the first year of a massive deal, I believe, or a second year.

So maybe the guarantees are a little less. But when the one game suspension does get dropped, because that is going to happen, people need to remember like, hey, this also comes with a huge number, I think, depending on whatever the guarantees were at signing. I ain't spelling nobody. So you're going to have to watch the tape.

We did. Pretty clearly. I don't see it. Well, here, they zoomed in, and there's an alternate angle. oh that's me talking right there that's me everybody knows me knows that's how i talking about hawk to that's all i talk jalen ramsie though becoming tone setter for the pittsburgh steers if he was to get spit on and didn't respond tough day in the office today going into the pittsburgh steelers facility so i mean that is a that is a you know that's a suck of girl six seven yeah there was a lot of Steelers fans that were upset at the time because it was

a crucial point in the game. They were getting to get off the field. Obviously, they get a first down and then as soon as the video came out of them, spitting on them. They're like, oh, yeah. You should have actually yeah. We should have seen one of those actually. Can't be just spitting on people. So there's a suspension coming. We'll ask after here in a matter of moments. Let's go to the second

headline coming out. Oh, no. What? Oh, wow. You need to see. There's a question mark here. Okay. Big one. The Chiefs is not the Chiefs? Question mark. put the question mark in there because we would like it out okay if down the road here in the next few weeks the can't see chiefs figure out how it'd be a great football team that we know the can't say chiefs can be it's possible okay and if somebody's going to quote this and put it out there would like full context that that question mark is larger than all the other letters that are on the graphic there is a chance that this chiefs figures it out okay there's a chance of Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes still which we all agree that he is and none of us are saying it's Patrick Mahomes's fault but this chief's team just doesn't look like the chiefs Now, is that because of who they were playing against?

And the greatness of the team that is potentially about to become the team of the AFC West. Is the Denver Broncos defense exactly what everybody said it was going to be going into the season? Is Bow Nix everything that Sean Payton said he was going to be once he got drafted there? Is the offense in clutch time able to make any play that anybody in the NFL is able to make? Yes, and is their kicker going to guarantee a make whenever it push comes to shove? Yeah, so they got all the pieces. They got big play Bo Nicks making all the plays whenever they need it. He's seemingly never rattled.

He can run and make everything. They got weapons outside. They got pieces everywhere. And then their kicker is going to make the kick. I think now he's like 15 to 17 or something like that or maybe 16 of 18. Under Sean Peyton, whenever it comes to the final 10 seconds of a game for having to make a kick to tie or to win. Will Lutz was with Sean Peyton in New Orleans. He's with him now in Denver.

And it's like Patrick Mahomes, we all agree. Goat conversation. Goat talk. Chiefs in the middle of a dynasty. We all agree that that's happened. Or is the dynasty over? They put a stat up on Sunday night football. Shout out to this particular stat.

One score games last season, 12 and 0. This season, 0.5. And then I saw a bunch of people tweeting me whenever I said, what the hell is going on? We had a bunch of statisticians coming out. This is regression to the mean? This is a regression to the mean. That's what this is.

I saw a bunch of people acting like, you doofus. obviously after what happened last week, there's a lot of super intellectuals attacking me for everything. This is regression to me. That's what this is, you idiot. Everybody's saying this is natural. We've seen it with teams in the past who had to football gods blessing them heavily one way,

one season, then the next year completely turning against them. But it felt like the football gods have been blessing the chiefs just for like 10 years almost. So them just completely flipping it right now and losing all these close games. D-But, is this the thing? Is the story of the one-score games? They can't get it done at the end where they usually would be able to? Or is it a full game type thing where they're just not the team we thought they were? And I have a question mark.

Yeah. Next to me saying the chiefs is not the chiefs. Do you? Yeah, I don't like going against the program, but I don't have a question mark. I'm going to put it. Whoa! What is the exclamation point. So no.

Wow. But yeah, let me, yeah, let me. Yeah, because I just worked hard on this for the last 27 seconds. Put it next to the day. Yeah, you can put it up on there. Get it up on there. Get it up on there if you want. There it is.

Oh, my God. Wow. Boom. The Chiefs are at the Chiefs. They ain't. I mean, look, they just played the Broncos we've seen in this Patrick Mahomes era. They never lose to AFC West opponents. They always dominate AFC West opponents, especially, what's today?

November 17th, Patrick Mahomes and Chiefs, they don't lose in November. This is when they get hot. This is when they start rolling. And now we're five and five right here sitting in 500 in Week 12. Like, this isn't the Chiefs. This ain't the team. Patrick Mahomes, they're not getting. to done. There were spots where they could have hit some

big time plays. They even got bailed out with a pick six and got called back from Baron on the bullshit penalty. But the Broncos made the plays. They made the plays kind of all year alone and definitely late in the game when you expect it. Hey, it's 13th. It's a close game. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs, they're going to find a way to win this type of game.

McMillan played an unbelievable game, had a sack, had a pick. This defense is absolutely, yeah, this defense is dominant. They've been dominant all year long. Bowdox's offense still got to figure it out. I think they will, but now I'm out on the Chief for this year. You know, look, we've had dynasties that have taken some years off from dominating for this year. I don't think we'll see the Chiefs making a run.

Well, those people talk about like regression to the mean with the Chiefs being 12 and 0 and 1 score games last year, oh and 5 this year. Yes, that is a thing for normal teams. Like the Vikings, the one year went 10 and 0 or whatever, one score games and then went completely defeated the next year. The commanders last year, I believe were undefeated in one score games and definitely aren't this year. But that's not the Chiefs. Yeah. When you're, when you are good teams like this and even the Eagles this year, like you get like,

that's just what you do. you win really close games. So for them saying regression, I mean, no, this is like completely something that is not normal. Yeah, and you talk about the Denver team being really good. So maybe it's not just the Chiefs, but maybe it's just the Denver team. Here's a Hempbo stat about them out sacking their opponent. This is the sack differential for them and obviously against them for Bo Nix.

They're plus 22 right now. Or sorry, plus 36, which is better, 22 better than the next person, 49 sacks, 13 sacks allowed. Bo Nix doesn't get sacked and they sack the quarterback. and it's coming in bunches from everywhere. So I'm not saying that the Chiefs is not the Chiefs, like my friend Dee Butt here. I'll be able to put up alone. It's going to be a tough road if they is still the Chiefs right now. Yeah, and it was impressive watching Bo Nix do this.

This was his best game. I feel like by far. He really didn't turn the ball over. And it was in the biggest game. I feel much better about Bo Nix today than we did last Friday after that Raiders game. But they just pulled up the kind of wild card situation the Chiefs are looking at now. It's the Jags have the tiebreaker over Kansas City. The bills have the tiebreaker over Kansas City.

So I'm also with you. There's still definitely a question mark. And you could say like, well, I could easily see the Chiefs finishing 12 and 5 and kind of rolling through the rest of the schedule. And then you realize they play the Colts next week off a bye. And it's like, you know, it's tough. Number one storyline, off a buy. Wait. Colts will answer.

What? Boom. How? I learned it yesterday. I was watching. You play. All right. It's not the actual real one.

Okay. Okay, fair. Please put up the real one. Thank you. The NFL's final played. Now, I would like to say, the Colts winning Super Bowl still could be a one. After one I watched yesterday,

nobody's stopping us. Okay. There's a couple of really good defenses out there, which we'll certainly dive into in a moment. But Danny Dom's got to figure out, Jonathan Taylor to do his thing. But on that note, the NFL, remember just a couple weeks ago ahead.

It's the biggest ass shite day it's had in like 55. years. Yesterday, we're tying records on how great of a game it was or games they were. Five teams won on the final play that ties the record for the most on a single day in NFL history. Seven teams came back to win in the fourth quarter to win. That's the most since 2022. That ties for the most in NFL history. So what if you think about hanging around and does this game over? Is it still something we want to pay attention to? Yes. And then the final play from the opening whistle to the final kick, this thing is going to be intriguing.

that's exactly what the NFL wants. That's why the numbers are all up and to the right for the NFL. Texans, Matthew Wright, I'm sorry, here's Carolina Panthers. Ryan Fitzgerald hits a game winner against the Falcons. Now, this is obviously a rookie coming out of Florida State, hits a big-time win. Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young breaks all-time record, throwing for 448 yards.

Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers might have figured it out. There's another game winner here. that happened, Foxy's will pick the order here that we will go and boom, Houston Texans. Matthew Wright hits a game winner over the Tennessee Titans down in Nashville. Now the Cam Ward led Tennessee

Titans season is not great. They've already fired a coach. It's kind of ass down there, but they're in this one until Matthew Wright hits a game winner. Will Lutz obviously just hit for Denver. Cairo Santos for Chicago against Minnesota where it feels as if it's hooking and then

the football gods blow it back in there. And then Riley Patterson hits a game winner for the Miami Dolphins in Spain. So five game winners to wrap up games. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is Amman, who is an absolute stud when it comes to knowing things

that everybody else doesn't. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yay! Shefti, thank you for joining us. I know you caught the tail end of our first 15 there. Let's talk about it.

The Chiefs is not the Chiefs. That is what Debutt is saying. Is that what you're hearing from around the league? Nobody's scared of the Chiefs anymore. People don't think the Chiefs are the Big Bad Wolf coming to town. Speaking of a Big Bad Wolf, that guy's sitting in a jail right now watching this Chiefs team lose. One score games is the Chiefs not the Chiefs anymore, Chefty? Pat, they've won nine straight division titles.

And barring something unforeseen, they're not going to make a 10. They're just not going to be able to do that. at five and five, with Denver sitting there right now as the number one seed and the AFC at nine and two. They're four games behind the Broncos already having lost to them. They're behind the chargers having lost to them. And so they're in a situation where you take a look right there. I mean, I don't know how they're going to win that division. Like the goal right now for Kansas City is to make the playoffs, get back in the playoff picture,

and then see if you go win three games on the road.