The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1455 - Watt Wednesday, Va Tech Head Coach James Franklin, Notre Dame RB Jeremiyah Love, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 11 of the NFL season. AQ gives his biggest takeaway’s, and his top five offensive lines of the week as we go In the Trenches, while Darius Butler goes through the best and worst defensive back play of the week in Everything DB. Also joining the progrum is new Head Coach of the Virginia Tech Hokies, James Franklin to discuss his plans at VA Tech and how excited he is for the opportunity. Next, future Hall of Famer. 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt joins the progrum to recap his biggest takeaway’s from week 10, and to look ahead at some of the biggest matchups from week 11. Later, RB for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Jeremiyah Love joins the show to chat about this season, last year’s magical run, his legacy at ND, and his personal growth. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdow, on this walk Wednesday. November 19, 2025. This sports program begins right now. Football. It is magical, and we're lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. It's not just me, and on this particular Wednesday, there's a special edition. And obviously, the Toxic Table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, you are a special duo, you know? And hey, my man, hair looks incredible. Nice, nice, good.

I like to hear that. She's a minute. It's in the camera reflection, but that's okay. Thank you. Your hair looks incredible. No, thank you. My hair normally about the same, unless there's some little growth problem.

And my hair just grows straight out. So I got to deal with that every single day. I got a bunch of cowlitz or wherever the place. So my hair, though, normally pretty similar. You have transformed what your bucket is from hat, obviously formerly mullet, before mullet, not mullet guy at all. All of them people remember. Now you're just becoming long hair guy.

We want to let you know. It looks good. Hey, thanks, man. I appreciate that. It works for it all. Hey, long hair, don't care. You know? I care about stuff.

A lot of stuff. Yeah, a bunch of stuff. So I don't know. Like the Patriots. Let's not even get it. Yeah, I like the Patriots. Dude, that long hair might be at a parade sooner than later. Nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything, DB, good,

D, bad, D, and NFL matchups, which is available now. Right now. On ESPN Plus. a Disney plus and if you're an early riser 3.34 a.m. you can watch that thing on ESPN 2, ladies and gentlemen, Darrys J. Bullard.

And right before college game day, 8.30, we get a lot of timesloss ESPN 2. I've been watching. I've been watching a lot of debutsch NFL matchups on Saturday mornings before I head out there. Can't wait to be in Oregon, by the way. Hey, it'll be... Again. Good trip. Oregon's very far. You know, we got a chance

to experience it multiple times here now over the last couple years because of Dan landing in a powerhouse program. They're going to have seemingly forever. You know, Dan Lanning's name used to come up for jobs because of how, you know, he's young and obviously very successful and everything like that. So his name was one like everywhere. Like, hey, this guy can be there for 20, 30 years. And Dan has come out every time and said, yeah, can be there 20, 30 years, this place

right here, have everything you could potentially want. The only hurdle, the only hurdle. It is so far. Mayor. I mean, it is, but once you, everything once you're there, okay? So you just got to kind of put yourself in a portal. You know, like, that's how you've got to view it. Like, all right, I'm signing up like the old days.

We're forging the river here. This is Oregon Trail. We're going all the way over there. Okay, this is a big one. And you want to be a settler, you know, even in the modern transportation ability, especially as, you know, the Rockies start getting a little rock here, here, always a little bit. So you go, you go.

Oh, it's, you. Especially when it's pitch black when you're flying in night. It just, it looks like there's just nothing out. It's amazing. You're just kind of looking out in space, but it's down. You know, it's there. It's there, you know. So it's a fascinating little thing, but once you get there, okay, and I'm acting as if it is a very strenuous to fly somewhere in 2025, I'm not, but I'm just saying it is a long haul to get there and a long haul to get back.

but once you get there, everything about it is awesome. I mean, it's beautiful. The facilities, they're updating newer facilities. So it's like everything they have once you land there is almost like an island of sorts. Like, hey, we are an athletic island. And obviously with Nike support and everything they're able to do, they think they can run every sport for long haul. I mean, that is the way they view it.

And Dan Lanning's names not even being mentioned, right? There's a bunch of jobs open right now. A bunch of jobs. Florida, LSU, Penn State, still open. And Dan Lanning's name is not one that's being chatted about because Dan has come out so strong multiple times been like, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere.

I love it up here. They got a huge one this weekend with USC coming into town. Need to win. Need to win to keep that thing rolling. Great McAfee motivation this morning, too. Thank you for start my morning off like that. Maybe you can pre-record like 47 of those on the flights over. Okay.

And as soon as Coach Kiffin mentioned that yesterday, like, hey, maybe you create one. I used to do a good morning beautiful tweet. Beautiful people tweet every morning. But it wasn't really, you know, it was everyday same message. Hey, we're going. Let's get rid of the bumps.

Let's enjoy this shit. Let's go for it. You know, then Coach Kiffin has that, the lady who writes the pivot ear. Right. Which is one motivational message a day. Brianna.

There it is, yeah. So he said, well, won't you make one? I said, great, another job. But I have had a morning routine that I've kind of been able to stick to. And I get into this sauna here, 194 degrees that got up. this morning. Okay, 194 degrees. Your hair follicles are hot there. You know, everything's on.

So there's a lot of you time in there as you're just kind of cooking. It's an interesting time. And I see, no, I can put some life thoughts together. Had to do a couple of times because phone obviously overheated. Yeah. And had to put it down by the door. And shout out to rich guy who built house that I moved into. Great job on this thing. Would have never been able to accomplish what he has accomplished on this. So phone down at the bottom because it's overheating. Air coming in there, sitting there. Now I find myself actually thinking in the message. What would I want to hear? What do I need to hear? Yeah. Well, I didn't tell myself, then I started gathering. I'm like, this is actually a pretty good thing for me to maybe do,

just in general. And then I let that thing fly. A lot of positive responses. I appreciate people kind of, you know, understand that every day you can find a war if you want to, and especially in our world now. Boy, oh boy. Boy, they are. Look at that piece of shit. They're scumbags. How are they even allowed to operate? How is this an actual thing? This feels. like they're preying upon some things and completely wrong and everything can be taken out. That feels like some scumpt. We should, yep, war. We should do war. I have that thought with a lot of people on a very regular basis, let alone all the public stuff that happens. I also do a lot of my, a lot of business. You know, I do a lot of business with a lot of people and I'm dealing with

suits, you know, and I negotiate my own shit. So for us, for the boys, for the team, always thinking about that. So I mean, the amount of people that I interact with that have no idea or never seen anything like me before coming in there. This guy's an on-air talent. He knows nothing. It's like, actually, let's have a good time in this conversation where I can tell you that you have no clue about the modern world that we're currently in. And I'm going to do that in a certain different fashion, but if there's a little bit

of disrespect, obviously, I'm not doing shit for you. This is not how this is going to go. Who's your boss? Who's the person? Who actually has done something with your company? Oh, this is our department. You haven't done anything. You are currently working for the people that are actually spot bang. We need to get the hell out of here. So I can

find a war every single day, is what I'm finding. and what I need to do, find a happy stuff. You know, we need to enjoy this. So that's how this morning's message basically came together is like, hey, 194 degrees, it's hot as hell in here, okay? We should go worse, some people today. Today's a good day. Maybe today is the day that we kind of, we just say enough with all this.

You know, maybe we do that. But instead, it was like, no, I need to hear somebody say, let's have a good day. So I appreciate you shouting it out. I appreciate the positive response. And I appreciate Coach Lane Kiffin saying, hey, you should maybe get into this because maybe it does become. a part of the morning routine. Yeah, we'll see.

Maybe it does, because it feels like I've had a great morning. You know why? Because on Wednesdays, we're joined by a man who's a Super Bowl champion. He was player coach for a team that won Super Bowl. Unreal. I don't know who else has really accomplished that. He's from Moontownship, the same hometown as Joe Nardo. Wow.

There in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He went to Penn State. You know, he's a member of that particular cult. We'll be talking to James Franklin here in about 23 minutes. He was just announced as the head coach for the Virginia Tech Hokies. Just moments ago, his opening press conference was great. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the host of In the Trenches, Top Five, AQ, Shipley. Hey, Kews. Did you read my message this morning? And did you see it as a good thing or a bad

thing? Should I continue to do this? Yeah, it's a great thing. I read it, but I usually work in the opposite. I always try and find those battles. I like the battle. Okay, yeah, life is good for you in the middle of the battle, in the middle of the trenches. That's right. That is in the trenches. That is in the trenches. AQ, there's a lot happening in the NFL world. We're at week 11 right now. Okay. There's some teams I think that we know. I think there's some teams that we still are kind of question about. And then there's some teams that are already probably thinking about next year. And what's the transition? What is the rebuild look like? For you, you know, you've got a chance to hear us talk. You've got a chance to hear the world talk.

What are some things maybe that haven't been chatted about enough coming out of NFL week 11? Let's do Akewish takeaway. What's the first one? Conductor Purdy, full steam ahead. That looks like a train and he's obviously up there in the front, not paying attention to the road, he's got the ball on his hand because that's what he does on the field there. Yeah, if this is Boston, it wouldn't be the green line, and wouldn't be the red line, probably be the white line, and they wouldn't be heading towards South Station or North Station.

They're probably headed towards Super Bowl Station if I had to guess. That is a fantastic graphic. Okay, so hold on. So I didn't grow up in like a train area. Yeah, sure. So what are the... Different Different types of lines. Yeah, well, so, yeah, I do not want to come across

as a bigot in any way. It's more So you're not like, hey, I know trains better than everybody. No, not at all. Typically trains, and I guess in Boston the one kind of outlier would be the commuter rail. It doesn't have a color to the train line. But trains are typically, you know, colored lines. There's the red line. There's the orange line.

There's the green line. And when I saw the graphic, I'm not going to call it the red line. We already have one of those. But then you take a look around and say, oh. That's an exciting white line. That's an exciting white line. Yeah, wow. I love it.

Oh, the Niners. What a special team. Brock Purdy's all the way back. I think that is what you wanted to talk about. Conductor Purdy being back for this offense and then looking differently as you were on the call for the Arizona Cardinals. Absolutely. I got to see it up close and personal. I sent you a text after the first quarter. He came out slinging it. This is what I love. And this is what I love about Kyle Shanna. You see McCaffrey going motion right there. And then he sees. Okay. Cool. I'm going to do a little bit something. Oh, nope. I know exactly what I got. I got George Kittle matched up on a linebacker one-on-one. He's able to shift. He's able to motion. He's able to drop back.

and just drop a dime for the first touchdown of the game right in the hands of George Kittle. Keep it moving. He was awesome in this game. Let's look at the next play right here. This is so good. Again, same thing. All eyes on Christian McCaffrey, right? Let's send him one way. Oh, yeah, look over there. Let's throw it to the fullback in the flat, wide open up the seams. Kyle Eushcheck doing what he does. And then we get down on the goal line. Let's take note of George Kittle. Watch George Kittles' route on Jalen Thompson, one of the best safeties. See you later. Damn.

Drop it in a bucket, two touchdowns. That connection, I think, moved into second place all time between Purdy and Kiddle all-time connections. San Francisco 49. Okay, so the QBR difference between Mack Jones and Brock Purdy and the same offense is like a 10% leap or something like that. Brock Party came back, what was that, like four, three, four weeks ago from his injury, and he clearly was not all the way healthy. He was not able to move. This past weekend against the Arizona Cardinals, watching him.

Brock early. I mean, that thing was rolling early. Right there, you said he just made a check to make scored a touchdown. It's like Brock seemingly fully healthy. Brock having a chance, even to watch Matt kind of do his thing, maybe, you know, kind of take it in from a different perspective at this stage of his career. And also

understanding that he got paid and broken off, so it's just ball. It's like watching Brock respond. And we weren't the only ones ever talking about it. But like, the reason why Brock Purdy is the starting quarterback there is Mr. Relevant. I know it's, you know, talked about overboard, is because Kyle Shanhan doesn't care.

Like if the person's good, he's going to play that person. He has been empowered to do as such. John Lynch has been empowered to do as such. That's how they run that team over there. They don't care, literally, do not care where you were drafted. If you're the right person for the job, you are going to play. So when Mack Jones starts having success, and then Brock doesn't play good. And then Mac Jones has success again.

It's like, hey, this is one of the only places. And Brock Party is literally the depiction of it where the coach won't make a change. Then Brock comes back in and it's just like, what are we even? me, excuse me, what are we even talking about? There's a reason why I am the guy that got paid what I got paid, and I'm happy for him for that sake, legitimately happy for him for that. Yeah, without a doubt. I love Brock Purdy, and like you said, I mean, it got pretty loud there, because Mack Jones was playing well. He was throwing for a lot of yards, and, you know, that he's a big part of the reason why San Francisco is still right in the thick of things

in the playoff hunt, but it does just feel like watching that game, like, Brock Purdy's command of the offense. It's just, like, he is just so comfortable, and it seems like Shanahan, I don't want to say he was kind of hamstrung by Mac Jones being in there, but it feels like he can really go through his entire playbook and be very comfortable calling everything because he knows Brock's going to get the guys in the

right spot. And then again, not much rust out there, all of his throws, although it might not look like he's really zipping it in there. His throwing motion's weird. He's not, you know, he doesn't maybe have the arm talent that a lot other guys have, but it just seems like when he's on, he's always putting the ball exactly where it needs to go. Yeah, that's the arm

talent. I mean, him putting the ball exactly in the spot that it needs to be. It doesn't matter how fast it's getting there, when it's when is the only thing that matters as opposed to how whenever it comes to that. But he's special. And I think he makes all the right decisions too, Debutt, which is another huge part of the Brock Purdy train. We've been watching since he debuted and really took the place over. Absolutely. In the first couple of throws, I feel like AQ could have been a couple other guys maybe on the train, maybe in the middle, not in the back. But yeah, John Jennings going third. Jennings third. Great play, great ball, great route. But yeah,

Brock has full control of the offense. He does have arms. It kind of reminds me, or I guess Julian Sand probably reminds me of him. You don't see, like, the arm pop. You don't see it jump off, but you mention it. The win matters, the winning to where. So he's always on time, always on target. And Mack did a hell of a job.

You said it, you know, six and four right now, the Niners. Mack started, what, six games? So he had a pretty good control of this offense as well. But Brock, he's showing you why he went from Mr. Irrelevant to one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in National Football League. Yeah, and you can probably add Trem Williams on there, D-But as well. I don't know why AQ only picked those guys to be on the graphic. But if you go back to the first, it's really disgusting.

I mean, but then you look at it. It kind of makes sense. But if you go back to that first clip from, yeah, right here, like when he, it's also his brain. Like, AQ, you said it. He knows where he's going to football. But as soon as he gets the ball instead of looking right, he just stares left to keep 34 kind of right on that hash to open it up. And I don't know. Mac Jones was probably doing this.

but he knew from jump when he got the ball, he was going to the right and he still just decided to look up. Yeah, I think the biggest difference when you look at what Mack did and we look at what Purdy did when he came back is the fact that, yes, there's always going to be shifts in motions in a Kyle Shanahan offense. Always. The difference is how you use those shifts in motions.

Can you use them to your advantage? Not just pre-snap motion just to get exactly the leverage you want. It's, hey, how can we put call two plays, run the shift, run the motion, recognize the coverage, get into the play that we want to then throw the ball to Brock's unbelievable talent. He's going to make everybody have hope that you can be drafted or be an undrafted free agent and become a pillar

prime time player. Can they win a Super Bowl? I think they can. I think they really can. Yeah, absolutely. On the defensive side? Yeah, defensively, they're a little obviously hampered with Red Warner and Bosa. 47 completions. I know, I know. But I do think because they can control

the ball. Jacoby can spend it. Jacobi can spend it. They can control the clock. They control the run game. They get Brock doing what he does. get an early lead and then all of a sudden they have a chance. Okay, let's go to the next takeaway from week 11. T.D. Yon. Henderson, obviously, Ohio State product going up to New England, getting his shot at basically full-time running back.

Goes for three Tuds. Trey Tud's, what a stud A.Q. Shipley. Yeah, we've been waiting for him to get his opportunity and he does and takes advantage of it. Three touchdowns, as you mentioned. You got Diggs in the backfield, all eyes on him, jump him. But here's why this is so good. Let's run this back just a little bit, Fox.

See, if we can pause it as Henderson gets in the end zone. So pause it right there, right? This is meant to go to the back pylon, but he sees that corner. And Debutt, you can talk a little bit about that. If he continues to go to that back pylon, now he brings that corner into play for the interception, but he settles back into this zone, Drake May finds him, and he just does exactly, it's very quarterback friendly. That's good feel.

Great heads up play, you mentioned it just to feel, because if he keeps running there, that cornerback that's on the goal line and he got influenced by Stefan Diggs. You can see kind of two defenders go with Diggs out there so it's a great play design. I'm not sure if it was a quarter's match or a cover two match. But down here in the red area,

that corner is kind of playing the goal line. He can play the high to low. So if he puts that ball, kind of try to go to that back pylon, that corner can make a play on it. But since he just kind of faded to that open space, Drake saw him, good ball, and heads up awareness by a young player.

Yeah, young player just kind of knowing he getting more touches, get more field than that field. I love it. Two young players there. Yeah, very smart team. Josh McDaniels too. I mean, Hunter Henry was wide open on that play. Now you look, let's we get two run plays right in a row here. I love this play because Michael on Wendew, the big powerful right guard come across.

Quincey ones, boom, put his ass on the grass, keep it moving, walk in the end zone. How good is that? What are the dims? Oh, yeah. Can we get the dims, please on on when you? How good is that? You need height, weight, and width there as well. That is a wide son of a bitch.

He was a Harbaugh guy out of Michigan when he got drafted to New England a few years back they actually told them like, hey, it's one of the biggest sons of bitches Michigan's ever seen. Yeah, I would assume. Powerful. Holy shit.

In the way he's able to move and bend. I mean, yeah, right. That's a human. Oh, yeah. Think about that. Think about that. All men are created equal. All way to.

He looks like he's 400 pounds. He might be. And he can run. And look him dancing. Look how light he is on his feet. Yeah, right. The thing I love about this play, too, and you just mentioned it right at the end. Look at all the boys celebrating.

It is different in New England right now. They know they got a team. Obviously, we see this play. Well blocked. The play before, obviously doing their thing. This next play, we're going to see this little clip. That's what he's listed at. Huge.

Look at the size of this dude. And he might be 400 pounds now. That's what I'm saying. That's your rookie year weight. Let's always remember that. We always go up as line. Not everybody. This last play, though, check this out.

This is all Henderson. We get a little flip. Look, fake one way, flip it one way. They sniff it out. He just does this all by himself, and they find a way to push him. And look who's on the back of the bottom. I don't know if you saw on Wendu's on the back of that train range. I mean, yeah, right.

Can we get him the ball? Watch him. Get in the ball. Yep, you're moving in there. Yeah, we're scoring a touchdown. Holy shit, I need it on Wano, New Jersey. Oh, yeah. 6.3.350.

Listed. Yeah, exactly. I'm assuming he isn't just, you know, heavier to your point of cue. He looks 6'5 to me out there. Yeah, I don't know why we're even saying 6-3, but it's just the buy-in. Like even 58, if you see him, Jared Wilson, you talk about Celebrating.

He rolls on top of the pile and goes bananas on the backside of the touchdown. Like the buy-in's incredible. The sights and sounds from, you know, every single game are great in the coaching. I mean, the coaching is just showing up. You really just can't talk enough about the coaching staff and what they've done to this team.

I love this group. I really do. Yeah, we all do. And right now it's kind of like it. we're happy for Braves because he got fired at Tennessee. That was a good move. Thank you. Thank you, Amy Adams-strung.

I need a jersey. And Amy Adams-Trunk, and it will it be the old Houston? Yeah, yeah, because we'll take those, too. Yeah, well, there's something she'll never give up, and that's those jerseys. Or power. And we'll have JJ Wad on in a little bit here to chitchat about that whole entire thing. But, yeah, just looking back on that decision. Man, old man.

And not to mention the narrative that was built about VIII. Brayble coming into the season because, you know, the Patriots started one and two. They weren't great, and everyone was coming around on their high horse. Frable never starts out that great. He was an average coach in Tennessee, and everyone just kind of thinks that he's some guru good coach. And now it's like, well, where are you? And they're all at the schedule sucks, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But what are you going to do? You can't do about that. I mean, people are so, so stupid, especially on the Internet. Yeah, the Internet has a lot of that. I mean, we've obviously contributed to it, so we'd like to apologize for everything that we have added to. the stupidity out there for sure. But it is interesting the way people can frame things

whenever they have set in their mind that they are right. Yeah. You know, like, well, I definitely said that. I believe that. So even if I'm shown stuff that is completely contradictory to my beliefs, I have to prove somehow that what I said at the beginning was right because if not, I'm dumb.

It's like, hey, as people that are in the daily sports world, just know there's a new piece of information coming on fucking. You think that you have all the information in your daily. in your life. Fully scripted show, obviously. Of course.

There's going to be new information. You have to be able to change how you feel about things. Like you have to be able to adjust. The Vrabel thing is not a good coach. I think that one's a good depiction of how society is potentially always stuck in their ways.

Yeah. I think that is because if you look at the numbers whenever he was at Tennessee, I think you had to most guys on IR or something like that. We didn't know anybody on their team. He barely knew any of the people on his team. They were the number one team in the AFC. Now, granted, they lose it.

Bengals, Bengals ended up losing to the Super Bowl to the Los Angeles Rams. But they have like nine sacks in that game or something like that, which is Vrable's defense, which a bunch of guys that you don't even know on the team. So Vrable being a good coach, we knew. So then as soon as they fire them, we all go, what the hell are they going to figure it out? And then the way it's all going out down there, you think yourself, maybe the Tennessee Titans are the biggest dumpster fire, you know? Maybe they are the biggest dumps to fire in ball, you know, and that's a crazy thing to

think about, especially because Nashville is such an awesome city. Like the NFL loves Nashville The draft there It's like such a It's a special city It's an awesome place And they just Well he's not even showing up

Whenever they're firing The coach and GM She's not even at the owner's not even represented I'm here to represent the owner It's like don't you think we should hear from the owner I'm here Yes you're 100% right But I am here to speak for the owner

It's like what a shite organization Good luck Titans There you got this And on that note Congrats to the Patriots Hell yeah And also, Cleveland, you know, Braves is in the building for a year. Yeah.

There's another team, too, out there that was in the building. Cleveland's got to figure it out. Big announcement this morning. Oh, yeah. They're good. They're good at it. Shador Sanders will be starting for the Cleveland Browns this weekend. Good luck, Shador.

There you go, Shador. Now, this will be a full week with the offense being kind of shifted around what Shador does well, what Shador likes, what Shador doesn't like. He will be getting the reps with all the starters, including, you know, offensive line. But more importantly, wider seats. everybody, the timing of things. Him and Stefansky will be able to watch film together. This is big news, especially from the people that just found out like a couple days ago

that backup quarterbacks don't really get the bell of the ball treatment in NFL buildings. They're certainly there. They certainly have a job. You certainly are part of the team. But this is starting quarterback's team. And it's not just the backup quarterback that has to act that way. But it's everybody in the building is acting as if it's the starting quarterback's team. So now that is Shador.

So good luck to him. excited to see what Stefanski does with Shadour and what their offense does and who are they playing? They play the Raiders, so it should be that tough physical, elite offensive line against Miles Garrett, like that should be a pretty, that should be a fun one to

watch on Sunday. Well, and then on a flip side, Max Crosby with Shador Sanders. Yeah, exactly. And I think maybe they're frank. It could be. That's what's tough though, is like Max Crosby could have 15 sacks and force like eight fumbles and the Raiders still might get beat by 50.

which goes back to our We're not doing it We're not doing it Get him out of there Congratulations door though This is a big day Yeah big oh How do you think they do?

I mean you play the Raiders We always look at the schedule Say hey when would you want a quarterback To get into hey we always It's the NFL This is the plan It's the NFL so it's always tough teams But yeah if you could dream it up

This is the game you'll want to enter And get an opportunity So this would be cool You're going against the team They know he knows The family knows Tom Brady He has a relationship with their Obviously, the Raiders had an opportunity to draft him.

But for him, it's going to start, for me, up front. Like, how well can he set protections? How well can he be protected? And then that's when you can see the true talent of a quarterback. We see it happen all the time when people go to certain places. It's like, okay, this guy stinks. But Daniel Jones, for example, like he was under duress for his entire career in New York. And then he gets here and has a full competent offense surrounded by some talent.

And he looks like a complete different quarterback. So it'll be start number one, you know, in the middle of the season, which is always tough. I'm excited to see how he figures it out up front, force and foremost. How do they, are they talented? I mean, for a fifth round pick, you're always going to get your start probably in the middle of the season. Just so, yeah, you know, in the backup quarterback thing, I don't know how any of them ever have success. Like being 100% serious. Like, think about the situation that Chador got dropped into and everybody that didn't really know how like a week to week works.

And a team was like, this, he has no idea what he's. It's like, yeah, that's, backup quarterback's getting dropped into games. Insanity in my eyes. You got to be very good. That's why normally these backup quarterbacks stick around for a long time because it's like a position. You're doing homework. You're able to execute every offense against your defense that you need to give looks for. And also, if you've been standing around for three and a half hours in the freezing cold, watching something else,

you have to be able to put your bat, you have to go out there right now in, oh, yeah, most important position right now. And you're going to get blindsided, and you have no feel for how this game has gone. So backup quarterback sucks, I would say. There's a lot of people that want that job. But I think that is a very difficult job to succeed in. As a coach, having a rookie backup quarterback, that's the worst position would be. We see it with San Fran, Mac Jones, he was ready. Even Marriota, like, he's going to give you an opportunity.

James Winston, like, we're – Jacoby. Jacoby Brissette, like, you have these veteran quarterbacks. Mason Rudolph, like, legit, you have these veteran quarterbacks who have either been a starter at one point. When we had Matt Hasselback, if luck was out for three or four games, like we're running out of a tunnel, we still felt like we had a chance to win every game. But when you're putting a rookie quarterback who hasn't had live reps,

even if you're getting practice against the starters, you're not getting live reps. You're not getting real pressure. You're not dealing with everything as far as a play call and all the different moving parts. So everybody's kind of figuring that out at the same time. So it's going to be a huge challenge to your point. It'll be crazy.

So if he is successful, that'll be more surprising than the opposite. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. People are going to kill Shador. If it goes bad, which it could. Could go bad. Could go great. I mean, there's a change, because you look at these balls, I mean, the arm talent is very real.

So, like, what Shador, and Shador takes a lot of hits, gets right back up. There's a lot of great in Shador's game. Now, being able to understand the comprehensive defense and the blocking and where your guys are going to probably lean to as opposed to actually being and all that type of shit, it's like, we have no idea if Shador's able to do that. That's the biggest difference, right? In baseball, it's like, can you hit the curveball? That separates you from being major versus in football, in football, a quarter, It's like, can you figure out what they're doing on the other side and how quickly can you do that? And what does that information do for you?

Like, everybody obviously talks about, well, if you're a great athlete, you can be a quarterback or whatever. It's like maybe in college, in the NFL, you have to know what the hell is going on. And your football IQ is going to be on display. This is the highest level for a reason. So it's like, what is Chador's football IQ, I guess, is going to be found out here? And I'm not saying that we know week one, but like that's the difference. His arm talent's there. His toughness is there.

We assume he's not scared of the big moment because his life is literally just a big moment all the time. He's being watched by everybody since he was in eighth grade or whatever. So I just, I don't know. I'm excited to see how it goes, but there's a chance like he dices. Like there's a chance he dices some things up, especially with DeFansky who's not a bad play caller. And then there's a chance that goes really bad. Like there's a chance it goes really, really bad. And I think you never know with a rookie quarterback, but boy, Monday is going to be loud one way or the other with Shador.

And for the Cleveland Browns, we say thank you for acting. adding that into our sports media. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. Yeah, no. I mean, and boy, it's crazy to think that this game now will maybe be like one of the most watch games of the weekend. Flipped for sure.

Yeah, exactly. Whereas going in, you know, it's like, hey, this is arguably maybe the worst game of the NFL season. So, like, having that is, you know, at least. Maybe Roger Goodell made to call. Yeah. You know, the NFL, they can do whatever they want. Goodell might be there.

He might be in the owner's suite. You know, I don't know where it's being played. maybe he might be sitting in Jimmy Haslam's sweet, you know, watching this game first hand. We'll see. Let's go to your last takeaway here before we have an incredible guest on to join us. Josh is Jack of All Trades, Master of All. You know, see, the quote is Jack of All Trades, Master of None. They wrote that about me coming out of college.

Yeah, because I was able to do it all. But, boy, I wasn't great at any of them is what old buddy said, I believe, in the magazine. It's a quote about normally saying, like, it's an SUV, you know, it can do a lot of things, but not really great at one. For now, what you're saying is Josh is good at a lot. He's great at all of them. And that has become very evident seemingly with the way he's played. From year one to now,

it's like he's grown every aspect of his game, and it's seemingly on display every week. He's probably the most improved football player of the National Football League's ever seen, right? When he came in, he couldn't throw the ball. He was a 50% completion percentage guy. It wasn't very accurate. Now he does everything.

He's accurate. He runs. He's gotten a little bit better at running and protecting himself. And then these are the plays. that really makes them. These off-schedule plays, when it's not there, run around, convert the route deep. Watch this throw. I mean, just chucks at 55, perfect in the back of the end zone.

That's easy. Now, this one's great because we recognize Antoine Winfield, number 31, is down to the left side as we see it to the bottom of the screen. He's blitzing. He knows he's got three over three up top, blocker on blocker. Get it out to Ty Johnson. See you later. Bye.

Look at Vita Vair run, by the way. You're saying high football IQ play right there to Josh Allen. exactly where his pressure he is, where people aren't going to be. And I'm happy that he's healthy there. It looked like the hamstring there for a second. And then he really started bopping that thing up there, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Yeah, and were you allowed to bop on the ground?

I know you're not allowed to bop in the air. I have not heard as to whether or not he's been fine. I think you can maybe bop on the ground. Do not be sniffing anything. Definitely not. No sniffing of anything. Because these refs, they know what used to be on those fingers. So whenever you're doing the sniffy sniff, they're saying,

hey, okay. That's what they're saying. That's a, can't do that. That's what they're doing. They're calling it. C.D. Lamb got two of those. Trey McBride got one this weekend. The refs.

The refs were real interesting in that game out there. Do you know what the penalty difference was in that game? What was it? 17 to 1. Arizona Cardinals has 17 penalties. The 49ers have won. On discipline, football team. Yeah, but Brock Purdy's leading a very good program out there.

He's on the exciting wayline. That's absurd. I have not heard that. Yeah, we need to keep those stats in mind as these reps continue to become a part of the conversation. We appreciate your takeaways. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, was the man who was the bell of the ball of this college football coaching cycle that has begun much earlier than in years past. He led the Penn State Nittany Lions for over a decade into an area of success

that became a national championship or bus type conversation every single year. But when he took over the program, it was not at that stage. It was at a very different stage. What he was able to accomplish there obviously led to the rest of the country saying we want him as our head coach. Virginia Tech became the official university that signed him. Ladies and gentlemen, the new hokey

football head coach James Franklin. Yay! How you doing, Bob? What's up, guys? How are we doing? How was the press conference? You felt good? You feel like you nailed it? I only saw a couple clips. I didn't get to see the entire thing, but I feel like you brought good energy.

I feel like there was excitement in the room. Is that what you felt as well? I think so. I'm going to wait to hear what you have to say, because you determined that. But yeah, I thought it was good. Had some fun with it. There was a lot of excitement, enthusiasm. As you guys know, you've got the core cadets here, which is a huge part of the university and program.

They were in there going crazy. So it's been great. It's been great. Okay, so let's talk about what happened. Obviously, you get let go from Penn State early in the year after a couple games slide that I don't think you or anybody could have ever expected at Penn State. All of a sudden, your name is on the market. come on a college game day. And we basically have a conversation with you. And thank you for doing

that still to this day. That was one of the coolest things that has happened on game day, especially with how loud it all was around it. And basically you implied, hey, I am a football coach. That is what I am. All we are going to do now is take what we learned in trying to win a national championship and go win a national championship somewhere else. Through this entire process, have you reflected more on that particular thing? And what exactly do you think you take from so many years of experience at one place in the spotlight and bring to Virginia Tech who's hoping to get back there. Yeah, so I think your question's a great one. And what I would say is, right, it's unique. There hasn't been too many guys that have been a head coach in the SEC,

a head coach in the Big Ten, really unusual success at a place like Vanderbilt that hadn't had that type of success before. And then go to Penn State, win a Big Ten championship, the first year office sanctions. The last three years, we had more success than anybody in the country but four programs and a few plays away for playing for the national championship. So we're very proud of what we were able to achieve there. And I am forever grateful for that time and experience. So being able to use all those lessons and experiences and now bring it to the ACC. The ACC was my first break at the University of Maryland working for Ralph Regent. So I, experience there. I've been a coach in the NFL with the Green Bay Packers. So just going

to take all these experiences that I've been able to have and pour them into my time here at Virginia Tech. So excited about the opportunity. Obviously, we've got a ton of work to do. College football has changed. You have the ability to flip your roster a lot faster than when I took over those other two programs. And we're excited about the opportunity. Okay, so let's talk about that. What does it look like for the next few weeks as season goes on? you're obviously monitoring locker room, playing practice, kind of seeing who are your guys who are not? You're like, what is it look like for the next couple weeks

as you kind of get introduced to the football team while they're still playing? But, you know, that's kind of an interesting dynamic. Rich Rod did it last year at West Virginia. He was around for the last two games. And I think he learned a lot about the locker room, about who from the practice, what it looks like, maybe what he can see in some of the guys and maybe not. Is that the same thing for you, or how are you kind of going about it?

Well, I was timing you to see how long. you'd have a, it would take you to bring the conversation back to West Virginia, which is always a part of what you're going to talk about, right? But yeah, it's different and it's unique, right? Being able to be here two weeks early, the calendar has changed. I think that's why you're seeing a lot of athletic directors and presidents making some of the decisions they're making. We're going to have an official visit this weekend.

We're going to have an official visit next weekend. A lot of these schools are not going to be able to have that, and then we're going to go into a dead period. So some of these programs are going to lose an entire high school recruiting class. So I got to do that. We've got to spend time evaluating the current staff. I want to be very respectful for Coach Montgomery and what he has done here. I do want to get up in front of the team and just settle them that I'm excited about getting to know them and build relationships with them.

but then we'll also obviously making sure that we're doing whatever we've got to do to increase the competition level at every position. Okay, I love to hear that, and obviously one transfer portal is now the new rule, and that is in January? Is that one of the, when is it December?

That's right. January is obviously one of this, which will be interesting for the other coaching jobs on who the coaches are potentially going to go to those other jobs, you know, because if they're in a playoff, then transfer portal, other place. Weird. You're in a good spot, I think, Coach. I think this is a good move getting this thing done early

and being able to kind of put your fingerprints on the kind of the franchise early here. Now, you guys have Miami at home, okay? That means one thing and one thing alone. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Coach, congrats again. And I read that you're 128 and 60s. So everyone who was talking shit about you,

it's like, hey, who cares? I want way more games than you did. But when you think about Virginia Tech, have you visualized yet kind of that first entrance into the stadium with Enter Sandman, with all the boys, you know, behind you. And have you also already made Enter Sandman your ringtone? Because it is one of the greatest songs of all time. Yeah, so I can't wait to have the opportunity to run into the stadium with Enter Sandman.

I will tell you, I think you know this. I'm more of kind of an R&B rap, hip-hop type of guy. J-Z, Biggie. But I appreciate good music, whatever it is. and all I really care about is what it does to the fans, and that place is rocking. I've been on the other side of it, not as fun, so I'm looking forward to have an opportunity to do that. We'll get a chance to see it this year as well. I've watched the last couple games, even after a challenging season, this place is rocking.

We're going to need it rocking again on Saturday because we're going to have a ton of recruits at the game. But yeah, it's exciting. It's one of the better, I think, entrances, if not the best, in all of college football. Now, Metallica might send us a C&D just for doing what we just did right there. They run a tight ship on their business, which actually makes me respect them even more now that I'm growing older in this particular business. We need to get you to a Metallica concert. I think it would be a spiritual experience for you as they go through it all as you get ready. Now, Penn State alum, obviously, Penn State legend.

AQ Shipley has a question for you. Coach? Coach, good to see you. How are you doing, buddy? Good to see you. I hate those colors on you. But before I get to my question, I think I need to say this, right? Obviously, as a former Penn State or a former Penn State player, I think everybody appreciates everything you did. And I think when this whole thing is done and we move past everything, I think everybody down the road is going to look back and say what you did when you took it over

and what you did in that time, everybody will be forever grateful for that. I think that needs to be said. But having said that... I appreciate it, Q. Having said that, is there any thought to picking a staff now? Are you evaluating the current staff? Do you have some guys in mind that are kind of locks already?

Are you kind of waiting to evaluate your own team and your own staff before you get to that? Yeah, so, as you know, I got guys that have been with me. When I left Vanderbilt went to Penn State, I brought 16 people with me. I think a lot of times these coaches, they get. these jobs and they act like it's all about them, right? I didn't do this by myself. I've had great people around me and that's what it's all about. So there's some people that are core to me and will continue to be, but I also want to be very respectful of the people that poured their hearts and souls into this program here at Virginia Tech, and I want to be respectful of that. So

we'll take some time to get to know the staff, to interview some people, and then put the puzzle together. That's the Penn State people, as well as some of the Virginia Tech people, and then also nationally. We've got to be great in the footprint, but in today's college football, you've got to be able to go nationally as well. Because as you guys know, I don't know why this is, but when you're running inside zone and you hand it off to Saquan Barclay, for some reason, the plays work better. So the coaches, we get a lot of credit, but this is a player's game, and we want to make sure that we got really good players in all phases that can impact the game. To echo your sentiment, I think Coach Saban says, like, I learned quickly that I was okay coach with not good players.

I was considered a great coach with really good players. So that is what we are trying to do at all times, which is why I think the grindstone that you have on recruiting is such an advantage and why everybody was kind of seeking you as their coach. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, speaking to that, coach, how much does that change now that you're at Virginia Tech? and it's a situation where you're trying to kind of restore a program to its former excellence and glory, whereas when you're at Penn State, you're at an established blue blood. You know when you're going into these kids' houses that you can tell them and be 100% truthful. Like, hey, we're going to compete for a national championship every single year you're on campus.

So, like, does the pitch change? Does the way you go about recruiting change? Or just how is it different now being at Virginia Tech trying to build them back up as opposed to when you're at Penn State? state? Well, I think that's changed, right? We've seen that in college football. The landscape has changed, and as long as you're at a place that's committed at the highest level to win, you can do it. This season and last season, there's been evidence of that. There's also, again, the ability to turn your roster over quickly with veteran players. We're still going to be a high school developmental program, because I think if you make the decision to go all in on the

portal, it's hard to ever come out of that because you're going to have so much turnover every single year that you're forced to stay in that world. And we'd like to have a healthy balance between the two. I do think in year one, we're going to have an opportunity to get a bunch of players out of the transfer portal that can come in and help us compete right away. And there's also enough talent on this current roster that's going to create a really competitive environment. But long term, we'd like to have a balance between high school recruiting as our base and then compliment with that with the portal. Yeah, it feels like

the mindset, very NFL like you. Build your culture through the draft and then free agency comes in and kind of takes you to the next step, hopefully. I'd like to hear that you have the experience in this world and also view it the same way. I think that's why the Virginia Tech people. You know, they interviewed 20 people? I have

no idea how many people they interviewed. 20. B.A. told us. Now, he signed an NDA, so he wasn't to tell us anything basically throughout. Then we got him to loosen his lips a little bit. He said they talked. So that NDA is over now that the contractsman signed? That's on you guys to figure out with B.A. Not with us.

But he mentioned like they talked to over 20 different people or whatever. And from the beginning, you were the guy. And I think it's because, and I assume that's other jobs as well. They were thinking the exact same thing. Just understanding the current world, I think, is a massive advantage. Having a brand new coach, like a coordinator or, you know, maybe an up-and-coming, promising type coach, take it over right now. You have no idea how it's going to go.

For you, you had such a great resume. It's like, I think you're in such a good position. They always say, like, the second time you get to do something. Now, this is like your third time getting to do something. But, like, every time you only get better and better. And Virginia Tech's putting a lot of money in, I think. That's no NDA. I think they are also all behind athletics.

We're excited for this story for you. Now, on that note, Debutt has a question for you. Absolutely, coach. You got the resources. And with the transfer reporter, you can turn over the roster much quicker. You mentioned that a bunch of times. But as far as, like, a realistic timeline, I know you want to win right now.

What is your realistic timeline to compete for that national championship? Outside looking in, we all say, hey, the ACC is getable every year, so you're going to be in the dance. But what's that realistic timeline for you to get your culture into Virginia Tech? Yeah, well, obviously, there's a lot to be determined there, right? I just got on campus about two hours ago. I need to evaluate the current roster. I need to see how recruiting is going to go. I need to see what's going to be available in the transfer.

transfer portal, what coaches. There's so many different moving parts. But the reality is we're going to be aggressive. We're going to be very aggressive from day one. We're not going to put any ceilings on who and what we can be and wake up every single morning and give Virginia Tech everything we got. But I think to your point, the investment level is what it's all about. College football is changed. And the reality is this place made some decisions before I was even part of the conversation, which was helpful, that it wasn't just me coming in saying, here are all the things we need to do. They had already done their benchmarking in the ACC as well as nationally, and I think that allowed the conversation to go faster and smoother. Good for you, coach. Enjoy it all. We can't wait to watch what it becomes over there.

And don't be scared to schedule West Virginia whenever it comes across your desk. So that's twice you've been able to bring up West Virginia. It's unbelievable. like do they pay you in every year you're going to find you away the other way around college football is change

yeah college football is a new there's a new landscape you know not a lot of money yeah I get it yeah you got to do what you got to do for the good of the squad for the good of it but I do think like those old big east I guess rivalries in West Virginia and Virginia

Tech in the state of West Virginia on the southern side there Charleston that old area like Virginia Tech still considered like massive rivalry with West Virginia. I think a lot of people West Virginia feel that way, and I think Virginia Tech people still feel that way as well. So if we can make that dance take place, we should definitely be doing that. Just, you know, I still love the Pittsburgh accent.

You know, my dad's from the Hill District. So I love, I love hearing the program. I love hearing all the little, yeah, yeah, Yinser. I love all that stuff. Hey, why don't you drop it in there up there and, you know, up there in the hills of Virginia Tech? We want to a saloon up there. Where were we at, Foxy? We went to a saloon up there. It was a great time. It was awesome. Copperhead Road came on. Another song you love.

I know you love that song. Copperhead Road came on and people were sprinting down the street into the saloon to get on to the dance floor so they can line. It was one of the most electric environments I've been a part of. And then did you get out there with the belt buckle that you loved? Were you out there? Yeah, it's the electric slide with an extra kick, I learned. So that is that. Yeah.

So it was our Roanoke we were in, which I don't know how close that is to Blacksburg over there. But it's a wonderful area. They love ball there. Man, they love ball over there. So hopefully... So the electric side with the electric slide with a little extra kickstep. Yeah, boom, and then we're going bang to bang

to bang to bang and a bang and a bang and a bang and a bang and a bang and it going to here, bang, bang, you're kicking twice. And then you turn that thing and then you turn that something. Okay. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So as I was watching them from a side, I was watching him from the side. I was trying to...

Because this felt like the moment to be a part of it. This one, there was people, there was like a 75-year-old man over here that was just housing diesels, okay, just at the bar. Legend. Copperhead Road came on. I watched him. Fuck. Oh, shit.

Got to do it. Yeah, got to do it here. Yeah, here's me hitting this thing. Here's me hitting this thing. In the middle. Yeah. Bang. Did you, bang.

Are you slid out there with him? Bang, bang, bang. Where are you at? I don't know if that's copperhead road because I think Foxy was actually doing copper. That's me right there, but yeah. Oh, that's you? Yeah. Yeah.

And obviously, I don't know. You have some rhythm. I didn't realize you had that much rhythm. I'm from Pittsburgh, coach, you fucking heard. You just said it. What are you leaving? What do you think this is? What do you think this is, James? And we need to get you a goddamn Metallica concert, A-Sep, all right?

Are you going to get a new burger out there, too? Yeah, you need a different burger. We can't be doing a turkey burger there. You know you did that last time. I know. I was trying to do with a healthy deal. The players gave me a hard time about that. So this is what we learned, remember?

We learned from the last place. It's all a process. You learn, you adjust. The next one will have a pound of bacon on. There we go. Heart attack. Hockey hands. All right, have a good one.

That's one of my lessons that I learned. Don't have the healthy burger at the local restaurant. See, that might have been the old. Just trying to get better. That might have been the thing. Hell yeah. Too bad we thought of it now. I mean, would have been.

That's right. Perfect time. But hey, perfect time in for Virginia Tech. Yeah, you're right. That's right. You're the man. Congratulations. You deserve all this.

We can't wait to watch it. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach James Franklin. Yeah, Coach. He's hilarious. Yeah. he knows exactly who we are to you know like he he knows exactly like he understands because his dad's from the hill district about how people from pittsburgh view penn state people if they did not go to pen state so like he has never taken any disrespect from anything that has been a shit talking situation and then obviously getting a chance to know him he put us right outside of his office yeah i mean he let us right outside of his office sweet that was a much different time you know when this show was broadcast a rate outside of his office yeah they were going to win the national championship it was like 10 years ago oh my god 70 employees working on the social media department alone into recruiting, just kind of

get it going. They have a full operation. And then a couple things start happy. Overtime, lost Oregon. That was it. Drew Aller breaks his leg. That was it. It was the overtime loss. Just sent them off a deep end. UCLA can't have it. See, Northwestern, you could say.

North Western at home. That was. No. That was the end. UCLA, no, it wasn't. It was getting new Heisled. Northwestern at home. Yeah, but that was after UCLA. That's what I'm saying. said that was the end. That was the end.

It was the beginning of the end. Yeah, no, there was another one that came immediately afterwards. And I'm not saying that's James Franklin's fault, but I'm just saying like, like that overtime win or lost Oregon, is that James Franklin's fault? I don't think so. That's a tough game. But also could have won that game multiple different times, didn't execute, don't win that game. UCLA going over and getting new Heisled, maybe that you put that one on it.

Northwestern at home, it's like, is anybody showing up? Like, what are we, what the hell is going on out here? So it just kind of unraveled quickly and then going into the season, It was like, hey, better win a national championship. And then everybody has his record against top teams. Well, who are the top teams that are counting for that record? Oh, the national champs normally. Yeah.

That is normally the national champ. So it's like, well, this guy can't win the big game. It's like, nobody's beating the teams that he is in there. And he talked about having the fourth most wins or fifth most wins in the country or whatever it is. It was like Penn State was sick of hearing it. Like that is just, it gets to that point. So like a perfect refresh for him at Virginia Tech. And you guys trying to, I don't know who you guys are going to hire.

I'll be excited to see who that is that has to kind of go from this point. But it did feel like a refresh was inevitable. It did feel like that. Absolutely. I think I know who they should hire. I mean, I was pretty loud about it last week. And once I did it a little bit more digging, he's got five Super Bowl wins and a national champion. Offensive coordinator at Alabama.

Is that a good resume? Who are you talking about? Brian Dayball. That's a bad fit. But when you're talking about Penn State, too, that Oregon game, that Oregon overtime game, We forget it was 17 to 3. They're about to lose 24 to 3 in the fourth quarter. And then they have this massive comeback even to get it to overtime.

So, like, you're talking about a good coach, like having your players believe enough to the point where you're at home, the whole crowd's dead, it's the fourth quarter, there's 14 minutes left, and they're still fighting in battle and just to get it to overtime, it felt like a big deal. I think there's a lot of moments where you can say James Franklin, very good coach. Yeah. You know, and then there's a record that everybody points out and says,

well, well, it's like, well, he won a lot of games. Yeah, well, and only won one big 10 there. It was a long time ago. In football places, we all understand this. Yes. I mean, it's happening in Pittsburgh. It's been happening in football places, it's like, yeah. Good, good job.

That's good. I mean, we can't talk shit to anybody. Okay, we like, the Penn State people run into an Ohio State person, and it's an immediate, hey, yeah, good to see you guys. Ohio State person says, oh, you guys getting better. Thanks. That is how football people feel from Penn State. So I think a refresh was inevitable this year

if they didn't go on and win a national championship, which is crazy expectations, right? Because only one team will win that. So like him go into a new place that is like desperate for that type of shit and him being able to build it and learn from it, good for Coach Roman. I think it's good for them. And then whatever Penn State ends up doing, it's like if they end up getting there,

it's good for them as well. Those are the expectations you want as a coach, especially when you're recruiting. And the one thing I was would say close to equally as important as winning and winning a national championship is how much talent do you send to the NFL? Because when you're sitting in these recruits liver room and you can run down that book or show, hey, we got this many guys that's been drafted first, second, whatever round. They may have been this many stars. They came here. They developed and I said, like, this is my track record. That's just as important as, you know, winning national championships

and winning these things. You see guys, now they go to school and you got to re-recrued them every year anyway. So if I know I'm going to play for a coach or if I'm a parent, and I know my kid really wants, hey, let me go to a coach who's done it time and time and time again. You heard him mention Sequin there. Yeah. Hey, hey, don't know if you remember. Yeah.

Yep, that guy. Yeah. It was all his guys, though. Like, I mean, Michael? I mean, whenever he was at Penn State, like his track record from the time he got there, they were always combined freaks. They always ran four-threes, had 40-inch verticals, went on to the next level. Guys may have had just an average college career, and then you go on

and all the sudden, proble, proble, probe, pro bowl, pro bono. Godwin. Proble. God, right? The list goes on and on. Michael Parsons' numbers in the NFL are 10x when it was at Penn State. And he's Virginia Tech said Coach right now. Virginia Tech. That's the thing.

It's crazy to think Virginia Tech is... If they win nine or ten games next year, like they'll burn Blacksburg to the ground. Hey, good for Virginia Tech. I happy to see you guys are in ball. I like any school that says we're investing in ball. This is clearly that. Let's talk about college football. Let's head over to Hammer.

Don, ton. CFP, brand new C. put out there predicted playoff at this seat. How do you feel about it, Tone? And what's the conversation coming out? Yeah, so the one through eight was exactly how I thought it would go. Obviously, you have Ohio State, Indiana, A&M, Georgia, five, Texas, Texas, six, Ole Miss, seven, Oregon.

That was exactly right with Oklahoma at eight. I had Alabama at nine. The CFP committee disagreed. They have Notre Dame at nine. So now, I don't know if anybody is seen on the internet. is now public enemy number one. Everyone is taking shots at Notre Dame. Bama fans, BYU fans, Miami fans, Vandy fans.

And the new CFP chair, Hunter Eurocheck, did not do them any favors last night. Foxy, I don't know if you have the video when he was asked about Notre Dame and Miami last night. I think when you look, Reese at Notre Dame and Miami, we really compare the losses of those two teams. Miami has lost to two unranked teams. Notre Dame has lost to two teams that are ranked in our top 13.

And so we really haven't compared those two teams. They haven't been in similar comparative pools to date. But Miami is creeping up into that range where they will be compared to Notre Dame if something happens above them. Let's keep that audio all the way up on Reese in the arena. Go ahead, Biggs. So people are pissed that they're not in the same comparative pools, even though they played each other in Miami won.

And he basically also said that good losses are better than good wins when it kind of comes to Alabama. because Alabama's three more wins, I think, top 25 teams versus Notre Dame. So people are very, very mad at him and very, very mad at Notre Dame right now. Yeah, and, you know, Mack Rhodes, Baylor Athletic Director, was the chair of the CFP Committee.

He steps down amongst a bunch of things happening. Who knows what ends up being that? This guy steps in, and I'll tell you, he's a little bit more robotic than we expected. A little bit. And the answers he's given. It sounds like he's reading from a script. So we need him to be a little bit more believable

because if you start changing what you're judging upon each week, which is possible with what you did here this time, boy, it's only going to get louder. Yeah. And that's why we're thankful we're not in that seat and that they are. Good job in there. Yeah, good work. We're going to judge you so hard.

Big time. You're never going to get it right. But we need to be a little bit more personal when you're giving these answers because it sounds like you're being forced to say what you're saying right there and you don't even believe it. Do a studio show too. Don't do it from Madison, Square Garden where it's loud as shit.

Oh, well, they got the hoops thing. Well, I get it, but they could have still done a studio show. You could just do this, though, I think. I think that's, and then you're back up. But why? I don't know. We'll see you next hour. Hello, beautiful people.

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Hey, you think they're going to remain consistent with what their criteria is. for a ranking for the rest of the way? Or do you think maybe there is a little bit of dodging and weaving that they're going to do to maybe pick who they want to pick? Yeah, I think they're going to dodge, dip, dive, dopk, and dodge this whole thing. Whatever they're feeling that week, it feels like potentially. Yeah, it does feel like it's going to be loud. And maybe they do this on purpose.

You know, there is an old, I hope everybody's all right there. You just choke into the microphone. I almost did choke on the water, right there. Yeah, sorry. I hope you're okay. We heard. Yeah, we hope you're, we hope you're okay. There used to be something where, like, Dan Rolovsky would give a take, and we say,

Dan clearly put one of those things out there just to stir the butt. Like, here's four actual things, and then there's one that is just, like, we think, I've never been told this is done by somebody who actually did it, but we as humans who take in content can realize that sometimes it seems like one of these things is strictly in here to stir shit, right? Like, it feels like this one is the attention seeker, and then he come into the other one, and you do it. Feels like that has been a strategy that has been used by content creators, especially in the sports world for a while now. Feels like that is something.

Is that what the CFP committee is doing? Are they going to leave, like, one thing each week for people to get incredibly upset about? Like, I do wonder if that conversation, especially with Hunter back in Georgia. Hunter up in charge, like, all right, what do we need? Okay, so that's what we actually think. Now, we need to do something just to keep people kind of interesting. because what if they put one out that everybody agreed upon? Would that ever happen?

Would that ever happen? Not with college football fan bases, no. I don't think it's possible. But, yeah. They need to merge with the BCS old system. It's time. The BCS problem was that they only had to pick two teams out of a bunch. Now we got 12.

Merge with the BCS system and help these people because the BCS is a robot and we'll probably still speak better than what we heard yesterday. It's one of those things where that's the biggest portion of the CFP committee. like we need a transparent communicator on what the hell is going on because that's why we didn't like BCS. We still don't have that. At least BCS.

Well, hold on. This is his first time. That's true. Foxy, what was your read? You watched a lot of his film to figure out which clips. Yeah, I watched it last night. My only takeaway was I felt like he already knew the questions.

Like they told him, hey, we're going to ask you this. We're going to ask you this. And he had all those answers canned. And there was no rebuttal on his answers. And that's why I felt like he already knew what he was being asked. As a non, listen, I understand. the rebuttal situation, especially in those conversations. We're not saying anything about Reese Davis at all.

No, they're telling time. What we are saying is the way it's set up. I think Reese is the only one that's allowed to. I think that's a part of the entire deal. And it's like, I think the CFP committee understands it. It's going to be loud no matter what we say. So let's just kind of get through this and then let's keep it moving. I do wish there was a little bit of pizzazz on that person.

I do wish there was a little, hey, there's 12 people in here. Okay. So we're trying. Everybody has their own opinions. We thought Notre Dame, yeah. yeah they lose that game but how about how they win though this game and then we think for Alabama yeah floor state okay they lost floor look at floor state that's who they lost to yeah they won four straight ranked games against top 20 teams and we viewed as top 20 teams but

they still showed up one time very early season did it against floor state it's like if they just said that I think we'd be like okay so this is what it is but I don't think they can I legitimately don't know what the right answer is for any of it no and I give mr. your check you know the benefit of the doubt a little bit because I believe he is the AD at Arkansas correct? Woo pig? Yeah, exactly. So he don't give a shit. Right now he's up to his eyeballs

trying to figure out who his next head football coach is going to be. No, he cares. I think he wants to talk about what's going on all these other schools in the SEC. They're getting in meanwhile he's thinking, Jesus Christ, they're throwing bricks through my window. They're putting four sales signs in my front yard and I got to talk about how

good Alabama is in Georgia and A&M. Oh, you think he's miserable, not robotic. I think so. I think all he's thinking about is Jesus Christ. I am the AD at Arkansas, and we are so fucking far away from being in this conversation, and I've got to get up here and talk about all my rivals and all these other people.

I think he's up to his eyeballs, and he's just figured I just got to swim forward. Connor, is that what you were thinking as well with Hunter? Well, that's what I was saying. I mean, just talking to James Franklin. Like, you can't have a motherless football team. You just can't. And that's one of the biggest things, especially in college football. If you do, especially now, what are you going to do with all your recruits?

Like, are they all going to leave our country? And so, like, that's a problem. You can't have a motherless football? Fatherless, mother. You can't have a football team without, you know, parents' head figures of your football team. And in the SEC, like we're talking about Virginia Tech, how important it is, and that's the ACC. We know what's different down there.

For ease of comparison, here's BCS Nohouse tweet from last night. The latest college football playoff rankings against our most up-to-date, simulated BCS had Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, A&M, Georgia. Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, and Georgia. at Ole Miss after Georgia. They have Texas Tech. Oregon sitting at 6th in the BCS one. Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Notre Dame at 9 on both sides. Alabama at 10 on both sides.

BYU, Utah, and then Vandy and Miami. CFP Committee has Miami much higher than the simulated BCS would have. But you could say, hey, there's some numbers he can put behind the signs. Joining us now is a man whose team sits atop of them all. And I don't even think he's going to give millions of dollars. he just has a Halloween party where he dresses up like whatever sort of untasteful this year but

bad taste. Not just, I mean a lot of the Halloween's I think coming out of this particular state maybe as a whole are certainly fascinating but this man he's a college football national champion Super Bowl champion, Rotter Cup winner, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who has a treat on the Ohio State

University campus, AJ Hawk. Yeah, Hawley. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. I mean, I was honoring a past president. I was, we were a couple, so it was very tasteful. Yeah, I understand you were buying into the gimmick. And those Halloween's, obviously, and all the events that you go to, the we could see with boozing, cruising, the thing you do out there,

always raising money to make the city better into the hospital and also to get good players. Yeah, exactly. Also get good players. Let's make the world better and our team better. Let's come together for good cause of Buckeyes. So I appreciate everything you've given back there. Whenever you see the CFP playoff predictions at this time of the season, obviously it's easy to say none of this matters, none of this matters, none of this matters. It kind of does, though, whenever we start to get a sense of how the committee feels about certain teams and programs,

anything that kind of scared you about last night, or do you think all of this is going to play itself out? Because there's a lot of games left and getting mad about this on this particular day is not maybe the best usage of your energy. No, I mean, I understand people getting mad about this. be excited if you think you're up a spot or two more than you thought you would or if you're getting you're slightly left out i can see people and fan bases getting pissed but we still have some time left teams can still figure it out but uh yeah that's a that's a tough job for what mr what's what's his name again you're a check hunter you're a check huna you're a check you think they're just worried about saying so like i don't know they think like miss speaking so they want to make

sure they have an idea and he doesn't just fly off the handles and say something crazy yeah maybe he doesn't know what the questions are but understands a general basis of and they all go through maybe what we're going to say to all these different things. It just, you know, and maybe Ty's right. Maybe this guy's so miserable. You know, maybe this guy is just so miserable as he's talking, but it really felt like he was

an authority on things and was stating things that were pieced together. And I'm not saying the previous chairs have been any better. I mean, there's no information normally coming out of this. But now they're starting to set a precedent a little bit, even with the new chair. We would like to wish them good luck. And all these teams have an opportunity to play themselves in or

play themselves out, except for who? Ohio State. Indiana, Texas A&M? Yep. That's probably it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Georgia loses at Georgia Tech and then loses in the SEC championship. They'll give them three losses, which would probably be a big time conversation.

That's the only thing, though. Did they have three last year when they lost the SEC title game or when they won that? I forget what it was, but aren't they kind of going with the, if you make it to the conference championship game with two losses and then you lose your conference championship game, it's going to be hard for them to eliminate those teams? So that has not been officially placed in, but I think we all have kind of a green. you did, like, hey, if you make it to the Big Ten champion or the SEC championship, you should get a bid. Yes. Because you, and then, but they're like, we will

maybe, is what the CFP committee said last year is like, everything's taken into account, what teams are playing, what teams are not playing. They, like, never gave us an answer that, like, yes, it's okay if you get a loss in the championship, but it did worry a lot of college coaches, like, well, the championship game is now not a good thing to go to because it might be

a third loss, and then all of a sudden you're being judged against the other three lost teams as opposed to SEC championship team. It's a very that's why the job is impossible. They open this thing up to 16, like it was allegedly being pitched. They opened up to 30, like it's being pitched. Don't do it. It's going to be impossible no matter what it is.

And how many teams can actually go and win the national championship? Let's head back to Hammer. Don, Tom, Tom, what do you got? So I think actually with Georgia's situation, because one of Bama's losses is to Florida State, which is not in the SEC. So their conference loss would be to Oklahoma, and they have the head-to-head against Georgia.

So I think even if Georgia wins, out. As long as Bama wins out as well and A&M, it'll actually be A&M and Bama in the SEC championship. If I remember correctly, if I'm thinking correctly in that situation, I could be wrong, but Bama has the head-to-head advantage over Georgia right now, and they both only have one conference loss. So I think Georgia's actually going to be in a really nice spot where they just play the rest of their regular season out. Whatever happens in the SEC championship happens, and then things will fall as they fall. So, Tarn, are you saying those top four in, we think regardless? Yes.

Congratulations. That's awesome. I personally think Texas Tech is in as well. Well, wait, hold on. Let me clarify. I know they got West Virginia and Morgan Town. I know they got the Mountaineers next weekend. But if they take care of West Virginia,

I don't see them dropping from five to completely. Kevin Brownie walking through that door. Yes, he is. Not yet. Yes, he is. Really? Really? Hey, hard-ed, Scotty Fox.

Have you had eyes on his Scotty Fox, boy? Have you seen this, Scotty Fox boy? He could buy for real. Saw that filthy 90-yard touchdown pass. Yeah, it was a great throw. Yeah, dart. All the money. Now, running back did take that thing

92 yards of that 93-yard thing, whatever the case is. It was a good run, but we got a good team. On the side of the hard edges there, and if we were able to get this, we beat the Big 12 champs. Yeah, but Texas Tech's defense is unbelievable. You think you're going to be able to get this against that. You might not be able to get this against Texas.

A husband candidate over there. Yeah, Rodriguez is certainly. a stud at linebacker. They got a D-line though. That is them dogs like to hunt. They're very big, very athletic, very strong, very fast. That is a worry, you know, because it does feel like throughout a majority of the year, the problem you see lies in the trenches. And it feels like a starting group, well, the solution can be found in the

trenches as well, which I think is something that could have been addressed maybe in the offseason, but there wasn't a lot of time. But it certainly is being addressed right now if you look at local headlines if you course. But the starting of the line has gotten kind of worse. Not like they've kind of like stayed the same

got worse, which is not supposed to happen. You know, like throughout the year, you think... It's just big people moving other big people though. Isn't that what they do? So I heard that. Texas A&M what they are very, very, very, very, very strong at,

West Virginia, maybe not our best and somehow getting worse maybe as the season progresses. And on that note, any given Saturday. And he gives a Saturday. And with the boys getting a little motivation, maybe, Kevin Brigh,

maybe his jaw line and the couch thing, kind of threw its way, Bluetoothed in to that offensive line. They're saying, you know what, boys? We're starting to get big-time recruits in the offense line. Maybe we should learn how to play football good, you know,

and maybe they start really doing well, and that could happen this week against this Texas Tech team. That could happen. Possible. you have some clarity on the SEC? Yeah, so if they went out, it is A&M and Bama. Georgia would need either Texas to beat A&M or Auburn to beat Bama to get into the SEC championship.

Hey, crazy things have happened. That's why crazy things have happened. That's why it's robbery week next week. Exactly. I think the big thing, though, you mentioned it earlier is with everyone being pissed about Notre Dame. Like at this point, they play Syracuse and Stanford. You know, so it's like really the only thing, unless Notre Dame absolutely collapses, which I don't think anyone thinks it's like they're only going to move up so they're just going to

piss more people off so if you're one of these teams it's kind of like a frit you might just need to swallow that poison pill and realize that Notre Dame probably is going to be in there yeah in Notre Dame very good we actually had a conversation with Jeremiah love that would be running at some point today he is very likable too not only is he like uh uh Heisman potential winner he is phenomenal and then the way he talks about Marcus Freeman and the team and the brotherhood and the culture and the way they've been playing since those losses it's like I know we all don't love it, but it's like a very real thing. Notre Dame gets a lot of eyes on them on a very regular basis,

so people see their team where they're at, as opposed to watching film of these teams, which some of these, you know, CFP committee members probably have to do in the moment. It's like Notre Dame is being followed by everybody all the time. So when things are up into the right, they're always going to get the benefit of the doubt. It feels like not saying it's right.

It's just reality of the situation, Dibbut. Absolutely. I love these conversations. I love talking about it. Look, Yukon, we're a year away. You know, we'll have a Heisman finalist with Joey Fennano. We'll have a Blentenikoff Award winner. That's his name?

No, he doesn't even know. Skylar Bill, wide receiver. But the thing I do get most excited, but outside the actual games, that song. That song. Well sad. Boom. There's no way we're doing this again. There's no way.

There's a lot more fun. Start on 12, countdown to one. That's how we cry. A CFP National Champion That's how we crown a CFP National Champion Jumpers, champs keep the dream alive One through four get the first round by

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All-time favorite team For some of the new bursting on the scene No one in front of something. Maybe. Countdown the one. That's how we crowned a CEP national champion. That's how we crown a CEP national champion. All right, we're done, we're not, we can we catch you through it?

What? I never see that part. I didn't know there was more. What the hell? How are we stopping it? I couldn't take it. We need to see that. This is new.

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That's how we crowned up TMP National Champion Wait, we skipped the new stuff Go to the news stuff I thought we're going back What the hell Can we all think we're going back? Yeah

I had Bruce didn't get it And Bruce was done with it too So maybe we'll catch it next time Boys, we'll have a lot of time to Sean Okay It sucks No no we're it's gonna be okay We got a lot of time to do this

What was that video released And why did we not know about it. Well, I think maybe it has been the entire time and maybe... No, we watched the whole thing. Yeah. That's last year's. That's bullshit. No, damn. Shut up, Boxy. That's 30 seconds of additional

content that we have never seen... Nope. Show us that shit, man! Right there. I've never seen any of this. Here we go. Here we go. Those college football fans were mind-blown. We need to listen to that 10 four times right now so we can memorize it.

They're definitely fans. That classroom looks like big fans. They are. They're mind-blown. That was great. How did we miss it? I am bled it right now. They had a radio edit release that they put out.

Must have. And then they decided to cut out that one? Yeah, right. We need that one. Did Cameron direct that thing? honestly. Yeah, Hans Zimmer made the music. There's a chance.

I think Diplo even potentially touch that. Yeah. Not that we know more about AI, it feels like potentially. Yeah, which once again. You think AI's putting that together? Hell no. No way. No way.

We're not that advanced. Starting with 12 counting down to one. Computer ain't coming up with that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the man who is a computer of a human, but somehow still remains an ability of moxie that. that makes them lovable to the entire world.

This guy is a machine. This guy is great at everything he does, including owning soccer teams. He owns Burnley in England. Relegation zone. Oh, no. Again. They're way down here.

They're getting a shot to shine right now. They're going to shot the shine right now. Español, maybe winning an entire thing. Now, they could have Pontch, Pontina. He's ours. The head coach of the United States, men's national team, but they let him walk out of that building before JJ

was on. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Walt. Who said again? Who said again? Who said again? Some freaking idiot dude. Brickin. Just get out of a shower? What'd you do? Just hop out of the shower? Don't have a blow dryer? You don't have a towel? Yeah, man.

Freaking clean. Good burn. His hair looks good. It is flowing today. Is that what you were referring to there, Jage? Is that what you were talking about? Yeah. I mean, it is. There's not a lot you can attack. with the hair besides the fact it's not dry because it does look pretty damn good. Four eyes. I mean, that's a layup every time.

No, I wear the glasses now, so I can't. I put the glasses on every now and then, so I can't attack the glasses and be a hypocrite here. Remember, he has the big... Oh, yeah. The Dahmer ones, yeah. The Dahmer ones. And then he has the... Right? That's the one.

The hair has been on point, though. There they are. Yeah, that's what we're talking. Yeah, that's exactly. Too much glare. Too much glare. Well, that's because the blue lights not getting through there. You're training, right? eyes at the same time you're training your body. You're doing a great job. I mentioned it

there. Español. You guys could have had Ponch-Ponchitino as your head coach. You guys decided to kick him out of town. And now he's leading the United States men's national team to win a World Cup this year. Have you seen what we're doing right now? Maybe he's on Burrhalter, bub. He's in the MLS. I don't know if he'd want to go play in the La Spain League or in whatever league you guys are in in England at this point. The Premier. But boy, what a ball strike ahead, JJ. Maybe you open the bank account for old Burrhalter. who's going to lead the World Cup? Yeah, love to see them winning.

Yes, Pach is an Espaniel, man. He's been at a few matches this year during their breaks. He's very, very, very well-liked in our area of Barcelona, and he's welcome in our stadium anytime as he has been multiple times this year. Yeah, well, don't be trying to poach, poach,

because we need him before the World Cup. Do you have any Americans on any of your teams? No. Wow. This guy hates Merck. Wow. When we were in the World Cup, your excuse going to be.

Yeah. What's that going to be? Because guess what? Luna and the boys? Okay. Burrhalter and the boys. Wow. Pachia and Pachitino and the boys.

Okay. They have found an inner dog. And Uruguay is a good team. 15th in the world. Uruguay is a great team. 5-1, we win. They pick up a goal 45th minute. They also got a red card.

Our boys didn't overreact. But last game fought. Yeah. Our guys aren't flopping around. They're not divas. Punch, Ponch. Tino found a bunch of dogs. Is that your Espanio team?

And why don't you have any Americans. What's that? You don't like Americans? What's going on here? It's a, we're open to them. We're welcome to them. We've discussed a few Americans in the transfer window. A couple of these teams. But I mean, there's, Spain and England are different games also. You have to understand that. Spain's a different game. It's a much more technical game. England's a little bit more of a physical, physical game from that standpoint. So it's, it's been really interesting watching the two differences between leagues and how they play. these games because they are completely different

styles. Okay, so England, we're a little bigger, stronger, we're knocking it down, we're getting into a blender, we're making some place. Spain, we're kind of knocking around a little bit. We need a little bit more individual school, and also maybe a little bit more flopping and rolling around in dramatics. Is that what you're saying, a little bit more of that? I don't know

about all that, but there is certainly a lot of technique and tactical play in there, but I mean, it's coming, it's everywhere. I mean, Pep at Man City, obviously brought a lot of that with him when he came over from Barcelona, and it's it's really fun to watch it's fun to break down and you have to try and find a way to keep up because the teams at the top obviously have so much money to be able to spend on the very top players

who are the best technical players in the world and when you literally can't spend at the same level you have to find different tactics to keep up and that's where we're at and we're not in the relegation zone by the way I didn't say it I didn't say it I said it he said near yeah he said Oh, I'm sorry. Lurking. Yeah. You know, we're at the bottom in the relegations. We're right above it.

Is that not where you are right there? Right above it. Hey, you know, those three red lines? We ain't one of them right now. Yeah, you're right. You're still fighting. We're scrapping. I heard we had a tough loss.

We got Chelsea this weekend. We got a big one. Sixth, what is? 7.30 a.m. Eastern time. Oh, what day? Big match this weekend, Saturday. So you'll be taking, your shirt will be off by that time. So we'll see, you know, out there in Oregon.

Where are you guys here? Oregon, Eugene. U.S.C. 's traveling. Second time this year? Yeah, second time about a month or so. Always a good scene, you know, they say for game day since long before I got there,

since I've been there, always a great scene out there. Early, you know, any of those pitch black ones that kind of start, and then there's kind of daylight at the end. And I don't know how the rest of the guys on stage and everybody on the show feels, it feels like, you know, when you walk out of a casino You know, and that light hits you? Yep.

That's kind of what it feels like about two and a half hours into that show is that sun starts to really come up and start peppery you a little bit. And it's like, well, okay, here we go. The day has just begun. And somehow the people that are from out there, they're getting empowered by this thing. They somehow are out there early and are even more. They're some of the best fans, I think, that all the sports have out there in Oregon.

And they've always had a great scene. Montana. I'll be on at 4.30 a.m. So if you need something to really get your game. years going 4.30 a.m. Burnley kickoff out there. I'll be up. I'll probably wake up 3 a.A. Wasn't this the week you guys were going to go to a small school, I thought?

So there was an opportunity. Montana, Montana State, they've played 147 times, I think. Is that right, tone, 147? It's the 124th brawl of the wild. Okay, I was nowhere near. No, it was close. The bobcats, right? Yeah. Isn't bobcats up there?

Boom. Yes. Missoula, Bozman. Yeah, 124 times they've played. This is the highest they've both been ranked. obviously they're one and two I think right now right is that not accurate two and three what perfect I didn't know that too this pat why did you choose this one I didn't I didn't choose it I did you chose it don't lie we all know you have more power than anybody in that entire building not a game day for this particular program yeah I fucking got it okay I definitely do it both backbox you go first and you pick for two million dollars let's

be honest who holds the power here that's my pocket that's the money coming out I know yeah i think you're paying more than that the whole show production they're making a lot of money on that show humdipa pays a lot of money for that show yeah old a man your friend line yeah they pay a lot you're getting up there where is the limit where is the limit for the amount you are putting on a kick i don't know i don't you've got to slow it down man it's kidding i know it's outrageous is you know i shouldn't do it actually your wife call you after does she call you hey hey hey that was two million dollars it's not just the wife you know it's also busy we had 18 employees here. I mean, there's a lot of people

that are probably like, hey, what do we doing? I hate rooting against these kids, I do. Exactly. I root against them every single time. Fuck those kids. I agree. So, Jage, yes, I do get the messages from people saying, hey, let's go ahead. What are we doing here? You know, they showed up. Way to go.

Okay, yeah, that means I guess they should just get, you know, something that we have worked our asses off for here in this entire thing. Yeah. That's what everybody says. You just made it too big, dude. You can't go back to a $100,000 kick now. Some kids are going to be like, well, I don't want to even show up for this. Yeah, and there's no business that's going to be like, yeah, you can just say whatever number you want out there, which kind of makes it, you know, kind of the whole thing, you know.

So it's certainly, I've worked myself into a shoot here, and it is certainly, if you've come up with your big brain, any outs of this thing, we will certainly. No, I'm loving watching it, man. You're on a track and there is no offshoot. This isn't like one of those semi-truck up the ramps. You are zooming down the hill. Yeah, and there's no more floating the gears, actually. That thing's just kind of bopping around, and it's just, we're doing this one right here. That Peter, brush it off the edge.

Yeah, Peter, he tried, remember he pooped on that kid, and then made the kick. Worried about Peter. It's a long season. He was tired. I saw him taking a nap. Yeah. Peter's got good energy. He's actually becoming, like, a mature dog.

I'm, like, watching it happen. Okay. Peter's good dog, dude. Peter's good. He's so big. He's so big. And his tongue, never. I don't know if he's talking

He's a little talking about He's a little talking about He's a little Tucker Time to give Mitch a shot man Let Mitch That bed is nicer than Than the bed I sleep in Yeah, Jake

Kirk Kerrb Street's been doing it a long time Okay Kirk Kerbtschre's been doing it a long time He's on the road a lot And pillow is so nice So nice He's such good Peter actually wishes

It was a worse one Kind of get a little imprint in there Yeah but Peter's the best Peter is a great dog Herbie obviously in the middle of a hell overrun. Tomorrow night kicks off week 12 of the NFL season.

Let's chit-chat a little bit about, you know, I heard you were making some faces there as we were playing the 12 down to one before we get to the NFL. You don't like the college football playoff song? I mean, it's, uh, it looks like it was made by the people that made that, uh, it's a bill song. Dude!

What you got against schoolhouse? Banger, yeah, I'm just the bill. It was phenomenal in 1995. Word of back. Just, I want to let you know. We've got a photo of you watching this thing live, okay? You need to not be that angry, okay, at the CFP. Just, is this a Wisconsin thing?

This is a celebration. It's more schools getting a shot to shine. What's your problem, Jake? What is your problem? I mean, the video aligns with the thoughts of the people making the decisions. Yeah, of course. Well, is it me? Because I've played that song more than any other people.

platform you know i've platform never seen it outside of this show in my life either i have never once seen it outside of this show they played it once on college game day and uh matt matt garrett actually as it was playing was like this is strictly for you right now and then obviously i was i'm singing this thing i think it was maybe at organ last year it was uh it was quite a moment yeah i think you guys have it down i mean you guys we thought we did one two oh one two three go It's about time. More schools get a shot to shine. More games and a lot more fun.

Sod with 12, the count down the war. That's how we crowned up. CEPN national champion. That's how we crowned up. They said Pixar did this, dude. Champion. The champs keep the dream alive. One through four.

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We can stop. We can stop. We can stop. Corner finals, New Year 6. Bowls on a rotating basis. You hear that. That's a bar. Didn't know that.

New Year 6 rotating bases. Hey. Tating 6. I mean, that is. I mean, not to mention the lives we don't even freaking know, man. If we played those, those sounded awesome. No, we got a lot of days. All right.

Until we start a 12 count down to one. Let's go back to the NFL. You had the bucks in the bills. Josh Allen is just absurd. What is kind of your take away from his historic day? Him and Otto Graham, the only one's in the history to do what he did this past Sunday with J.J. Watt on the call.

And I will say, Jage, I saw the people tweeting that they enjoy you and Mr. Eagle on the call. I will echo that sentiment. I think you guys are very good at what you do. And you commentated history this weekend with Josh Allen. What are your thoughts on the Buffalo Beals and what they can do with Josh? They were the crazy game, man.

Nine lead changes. I believe that's second most. the game in NFL history, it was a nuts game. It was awesome back and forth. I mean, the very first drive of the game, Todd Bulls was heating Josh up, and he chest passed an interception out of his own end zone. And you were kind of like, oh, boy, where's this one headed? And then he just casually has three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns. And you hear his interview, I believe it was either today or yesterday, and he said, I still don't think I played my best. I missed a few throws. And if you watch this game, that's actually true,

which is scary. Like, he played unbelievable. He was playing free. He was playing like Superman. He was playing like Josh Allen. You know, you watched that Miami game two weeks ago, and you're like, what's wrong with this Bill's offense? And then you watch them this week, and he is completely free playing how he wants to. He tried a lateral while he was running down the field, ended up being a forward pass. But just seeing him try those things and do those things was nuts.

But he even still could have been better at his own admission. There were a couple balls that he missed, and he would love to have back. So if they really start to figure this thing out, they've gone through a little rough patch in the middle of the season, but that Bill's team with that offense, now on the other side, the run defense is a problem.

Yeah, you can't win a Super Bowl without it, right? I mean, that's just kind of understood at this point. I mean, unless you can score 44 every time, but no, they need. Tex. Yeah, ladies, dogs, just don't understand 12-10 to 1. clock just zip it what's a deal what's their deal why didn't you do you usually taste

don't want to be this time yeah just where are you what part of the world they're out back i'm in the office there is a squirrel running along the fence they see the same one every single day and they bark at it every single day. I have tried a couple different tactics to get that to stop. Some more widely accepted than others. And none of them are working. Squirrel with a hammer? What are you doing?

Yeah, you're out there like painting your face. And now with the squirrel, I don't get a shit about the squirrel. The squirrel is the answer to me. Squirrel's the answer, Paige. This is defense versus offense. type conversation with the brain here. You've done it with the dogs. You know how many squirrels in the world?

You said it's the same one. You got to get everyone that comes in your backyard. Just trying to get a nut. You know, you just got to get one. That would be a problem. If I was, if I was popping pellets at this squirrel, there'd be a couple problems. That's what we thought you meant whenever you were saying,

like, more accepted than others. Oh, yeah, no. We didn't know if it was like crossbow. I don't live like you guys on, you know, farms. I got somebody who might be popping one through the window if I... Oh, coming right back. Yeah, yeah.

And that one probably has a better shot than you do if I had to get it. So let's make sure that squirrel kind of understands. I guess we should not be opening fire. But on that note, if they can score 44, they can win a Super Bowl. Josh Allen seemingly can. Doesn't it feel like that? And even if he does, like Baker was nine lead changes you talked about. Tampa Bay obviously has that as well.

Can you win a Super Bowl if you're the Buffalo Bills? I guess that's the only question. And I hate that that's the question coming out of week 11. But they have like best player in world. Josh Allen, MVP, reigning, potentially going to win it back to back, which would be crazy to think about. But they are in a position

where their fans are expecting and hoping, and I think Josh only wants Super Bowl. Like, that's what we're here for. Can they do it? Can they do it after watching them here in 11? I think one thing we do have to say is that at home, they are a different team than on the road.

Like, they are 26 and 3 at home. I believe in their last 29 games, and that crowd is awesome, that stadium, awesome. Obviously, the weather plays a factor there. But then you look at that Miami game and whether that was just a letdown game where they thought they could walk in and win or what it may be. But at home, they're incredible. It doesn't look like they're going to have that home field advantage in this playoffs, obviously, with the way the Patriots are playing.

Who knows how it's all going to shake out. But they're not a team I'd like to face. I would not have to try and I would not like to try and have to stop Josh Allen from scoring 44. And I do think that at some point that defense is going to start tackling better and is going to. going to start playing with a little better gap integrity. Sean McDermott prides himself on the defensive side of the ball, and I think they're going to find a way to get it right. But right now, run defense is rough.

I mean, you know Gump. A. Chan ran all over him, and then Tucker this last week ran all over him as well. A. Chan, top five running back in the league, if you were to watch all right at the base. Ain't that right, Gump? Maybe top two. Gump didn't love how Jonathan Velma was talking as if nobody knew who the hell A. Chan was. And then we told him, why don't you go around the office here and just see how many people

know how good of a player he is. And I think what Gumpy found out is not a lot of people know that the Miami Dolphins have a great running back in H.M. But the Buffalo Bills fans certainly do at this point, Gumpsh. Yeah, he ran all over him, ran all over the commanders. I mean, guys, one of the best players in the league as far as I'm concerned. It's unreal, dude. Like, he'll break a run out the gap. And you're like, oh, wow, this is going to be a nice little chunk. And then it's just gone. Nobody even has a shot against him. Yeah, that's the difference with, like, Sequin we saw last year. You know, it was like a massive get holes, obviously non-contact, before contact.

the yardage was insane but then being able to just take it to the house Jonathan Taylor right now if you give him he's going to take it to the house that high end top end touchdown speed is what separates I think the guys from the top and obviously got to have good blocking and all that shit but A chance for real.

Yeah. This week will be a really good test for the bills because they have the Texans defense who's the number one defense in the NFL so if you're going to have to outscore teams do you have to, if they can do it against the Texans the number one defense in the NFL then that's a great sign for them and obviously Davis Mills being back out there instead of C.J. Stroud played very well so far

and won some games for him. So Thursday night it's going to be a great football game. Yeah, Dougie Mills is an absolutely dog down there for Houston. He's been around for a long time. All right, let's move on to other NFL topics. AJ has a question for you, Jage. Yeah, Jage, I noticed online you've been tweeting a few times about the roughing the passer situation that's been going on in the NFL. I guess where do you think we're at right now? Do our refs consistent with this and how are defenders? supposed to hit quarterbacks these days? No, I'm frustrated with it.

I've been frustrated with it for a while. I remain frustrated with it. I try and call it out in the games that we have when I see it. But then obviously these couple I didn't get to see because of the games we had. And I think this game, I didn't get to watch the whole game, but from my understanding, this one was first, and then there's another one later where the guy kind of has the quarterback and the grasp and lets him go. Here it is.

and I think it's a direct correlation to the previous one because that guy knows I can't drive this guy into the ground. If I keep driving my feet and drive him into the ground, I'm going to get another penalty. So I need to just wrap up and assume that they're going to blow the whistle for forward progress or whatever it may be. And anybody who says this is just a bad tackle, he literally took five or six steps and realized I can't take him to the ground or I'm going to get a penalty. That's my problem is if you don't hit him high, You don't hit them low. You don't land your body weight on him. This guy's right hand braces himself to protect.

How do you want him to play? That tackle right there is as textbook football tackle as you could possibly make. And it just pisses me off because there's so many things. A, it's a penalty, gives them an automatic first down 15 yards. B, takes a sack off of this guy's record. And that's huge for so many different things, whether it's Pro Bowl, whether it's contract incentives, whatever it may be, could literally change a game. And he may or may not get fined.

they find them for this, that is insanity. It's just, I get so frustrated when a guy makes a great plan, he's punished. Yeah, it feels like this conversation has been happening for a while. Now, the counterpoint is we had to make rules to protect corebacks, because there was a year where we had like 90 quarter, 60, I forget what the number. I think it was like 68. It was an absurd number. And then obviously go back to the Carson Palmer with a low shot.

So like, the NFL has all these things in situations that have happened that they've tried to corral and make sure it never happens again. But like football is football. You know, like there's a chance that everybody. he's going to get injured. And I think we all appreciate that, hey, we're going to change it to the hit zone or a target in which you can hit people because obviously knee injuries and head injuries or something to take out a lot of stars. But when it got to the quarterback, remember, there was a conversation like, did you throw to the ground or did you place on the ground?

That's my problem. The head and the low, fine. We all agree those are out, no problem. Like this driving to the ground one is way too hard for officials to officiate. Intent, right? It's intent all of a sudden. Like, it's football. Like, that guy has to get him to the ground. Justin Herbert, 6.5, like, 2.45. He's a huge dude. Like, it's very difficult to get that guy to the ground.

And he also turns into it there. I just, I think the driving into the ground one is the very difficult one to officiate and often the one that makes people the most mad. And I think if you listen to quarterbacks, every quarterback will basically go on the record and be like, I hate some of these rules. Not asking for flags on those. Yeah, because they look bad to their teammates.

Like, now granted, they will take them. Let's not kidding. They will certainly take it. Yeah, there's also some that are looking for them when they're not even there. Ooh, who's that? Some quarterbacks. We know who it is. But 15 yards first down, good for the team.

You know, that's the whole thing. Now, I would like to say as a guy who's in a position of potential flopping, you could potentially flopping that thing. Never wanted to be seen on film flopper around backer. Just didn't think the boys would take me serious. Now, there's a couple times where I got actually flipped and landed on my head and there was no penalty. I'm like, what the next time?

Yours are scary because that, that, plant foot is like flat in the ground with the knees straight that is that's scary well so the thing about it is i wasn't flexible enough or have good enough for him so every time i punted i jumped so i was in the air so i was never really i was in a spot where if you got me it was going to be a head over heels yeah it is going to be a show here you know like Cincinnati bangles got made the team and uh i'm on netflix hard docks and he is flipping me into my face in slow motion on uh the last last which is worse which is worse that where he comes in at your leg after you've punted it or does a blocked punt where he gets your leg hurt more, where you can't

follow through? Brahmann, uh, brahman came right across my knee and, uh, I punted the ball still on the other side. But his knee, uh, oh yeah, I remember it. His body operated as like a knee brace for my leg, certainly hyper extended around and probably did long term damage if I had to guess. That's the worst one. Yeah, I would rather somebody just take their helmet right through my face as I was punting as opposed to your knee feeling like it's like hyper extending. Because it's scary, you know, it's super scary. You're like, oh, yeah, it's over forever. I'm never going to be able to kick a ball.

They ain't get up and, yeah, right. Fuck, yeah, I'm still doing it. You're terrible at blocking punts. And then he told me, no, I blocked two on you already. That guy was a psycho. He was so good at football. He was so good. He was so good.

He was so good. He was so good. He was so fast, so explosive. Psychopath. He blocked two against me. I think he blocked two against me. Like, every time we played him, he would tell me, too, before the game.

Coming. I'm like, I know. Yeah, I know you are. I know you absolutely are. Such good hair. What do you have like an eight pack, too? Yeah. The guy was unbelievable.

One of the most, like, ripped, like barbarians-looking human beings ever in complete disregard for the health and safety of his own body at all times on the football field. And others. Yeah. It was, it was, he was awesome. I think you'd go on to win a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Beast. Yeah, he did.

I think you'd go on to win a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Gave a hell of a pregame speech. You guy. Because it was like, we're all. going to die today with every one of us we're going to die today and you're like holy shit I'm with you but you seem serious right now and he played like that too

and he was so good for special teams he was perfect I mean he was absolutely perfect but yeah he got me one coming across this way and he also got me one this way so I would say strictly from the Brahmin blocks I would rather take the one coming this way as opposed to across there but for quarterbacks can't be flopping around no

can't be flopping around unless they're going to give you first down and then if you're on my team let's see you flop Let's get this first step. Let's extend this drive. Let's keep this thing going. They should have stayed away from you. Then they're rules. And JJ said, I'm a part of the problem.

So I do apologize for that. Let's talk about some of the other things happening around the NFL. Go ahead, Dee Butt. Yeah, we're talking about Josh Allen and kind of his nemesis in the playoffs. Been Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Going to the week 12 now, Chief's sitting at 5 in 5. We just had that playoff pitcher up. And you see them lurking right now.

What's your thoughts on the Kansas City Chiefs going for it? Because I need you on record. Yeah, I like that right now. Records saying what? I don't know. Whatever you say. Are they dead or not? Are they dead or not?

Probably six of their next seven because the tiebreakers aren't in their favor either right now. So they need to go on a very big run very quickly. I think that last week's game is obviously one of those that you're looking at as a marker of, all right, these are they find a way to win and then they didn't. It's not, it's crazy. I mean, you look at them, you look at the state. of this league right now, this has to be one of the most parody seasons that we've had in a long time in terms of the teams that you thought would be at the top aren't. We had a graphic on Sunday of all the division winners from last year and where they stand this year. And three

of the four were out of the playoffs and the bills were in the sixth seed. So it's crazy where everybody sits this year. But in terms of the chiefs, like they, I don't think it's crazy to say they have to win six of seven, right? Yeah, and they got to coach this weekend. So I don't necessarily love that the Indianapolis Colts are potentially the first team that they have to play in a time where they have to win. Okay, this is like a playoff game for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I have always been a very, very firm believer in the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Holmes,

Travis Kelsey, Andy Reed, Spags, Tob, VH, you name it. I just think they are great for a reason. I respect greatness. I really do. I have for my entire life. I think that is kind of something. I've always wanted to know why the greats are great. And the Chiefs were certainly that. And it was something where I rode with them where they were winning very close games when the sports books thought they were going to win by a big

amount of money. And I lost a lot. I lost a lot of money riding with this Kansas Chiefs team. But we had some good times. Great. Great time. Super Bowl. He did the entire thing. A couple different times. We took over a world. Can't State Chiefs. Travis Kelsey was Taylor Swift's stage. Yeah, exactly.

Over somewhere else. He was flying down in Brazil. Maybe that's all he wants to do. owns a G1 team. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of other other stuff, huh? No, that's been the whole time. It's been a lot of utter stuff. That's why it's like, these guys are awesome.

This is great. This is what it's going to be. This is the new dynasty, and I love that they're drinking Coors lights. I like that they're seemingly relatable and cool. I think this is good for ball. And then all of a sudden you watch them like the last couple years, and it's like, I don't know if this is the same.

And then this year, it's like, I don't know if this is the same. And then sports books still have them on good odds to go win the whole. thing and it's like sports books believe that they're going to come back and i think it's because we all believe they're going to come back and it's like uh what if this year is a reset year for the chiefs that'd be crazy to kind of witness jage no matter what we see those defense though you got to be giving them credit that broncos defense is nasty man's joseph all the guys they got i mean it's that defense gets after people dude in the pass rush and the coverage working in sync like it is they are fun to watch and i would have to imagine extremely scary to play again

Yeah, I do not love that it's the Colts this week. On that note, fresh off of by, Shane Steak and Danny Dimes. You know what their record is together? Undefeated. Yeah. Let's move along. You're talking about- Arrowhead, right?

It's in the home. At Arrowhead? Oh, it's home? Oh, cheese. Yeah, the boys are going to experience. Outdoor. Pittsburgh, that game was outdoor. That was one of the question.

We've talked about it. Everybody tries to move the goalposts on the Colts. and one of the goalposts was they hadn't done it outside on the grass they went into Pittsburgh and didn't do it now they're going to go outside on the grass I'm just saying I'm not saying I'm saying it

I'm saying what people are saying It sounds like you're saying it Charvarius Ward designated to turn off IR so they'll have their full Timbine and Mooney Ward and Saltz Gardner Oh is he on the team? Yeah I forgot about that

Oh is the MVP still a running back for the team Fresh league yeah Oh, yeah, off of a by week. Shams, Stiking, got to watch a little self-reflection probably. A little bit, what have I been doing a little bit too much of that we don't love? And what have they been doing that we don't love? Nothing. But offense is nasty, dude.

So enough with the whole, what you were kind of alluding to for a second. I'm just trying to give the storylines of the week, and that is a potential story. Okay, yeah, it's starting to become a little bit of a taker-taker here. Don't we kind of think? Could I pause? Oh, see? people even the internet hates it even at your house is internet hates it

another storyline my home I froze defeated against the coast yeah oh yeah Colts are tough I was talking about how good the Colts are I literally said the Colts offense is unstoppable that's what I said I said those words let's remember that whenever we're thinking of the headlines of the week

okay now let's talk about teams talk about teams leading divisions that we could have never expected Chicago Bears go ahead Ty Schmidt Yeah, JJ, you have Steelers Bears this week. Rogers doesn't have, you know, doesn't have to have surgery, I guess, and given his history with the Bears,

I think a lot of people are assuming he is going to try to go. And then on the flip side, the Bears, I think a lot of people are poking holes at their schedule and the fact that they've, you know, had so many come from behind wins and they haven't really put anyone away. But what's your take on that game and how legit of contenders do you think the Bears are?

I think you can certainly look at the Bears' comeback wins and, you know, the final craziness at the end of the games, two ways. You can look at it and you can say, all right, they're not that good. They're seven and three with a negative point differential. That's not good. And is that sustainable? Or you look at that and you say, Ben Johnson has clearly instilled a belief in a confidence in this team

that regardless of what happens, even in this Minnesota game, at the very, very end of the game, we're still going to find a way we're not going to be the same old bears. And that's clearly been a message in that locker room. And it's clearly something that they have taken. in a hole. Now, the issue in this game for both teams, in my opinion, the Steelers and the Bears, is that they live and die by the takeaway. That is just both of these defenses. If they get takeaways, they look unbelievable. If they don't get takeaways, they look terrible. So it

completely is going to come down to who is able to take the ball away in this game. Yeah, I, um, Aaron Rogers coming back with that wrist. Okay, we can go to Hammer, done, done. What are your thoughts on who plays quarterback this weekend, Tom? My thoughts. are that the Bears are basically what Aaron Rogers like his magic pill. Okay, this is exactly who he needs to play right now. He is the owner of the Bears.

He's the mayor of the Bears. He's the President and King of the Bears. He's basically like the Browns to Ben Rothsberger. So him getting back into this game to go against the Bears, I think, would be exactly what he needs. Even though I thought Mason looked pretty good.

Okay. All right, that's a good spot to be to have a good backup quarterback. Obviously, Pittsburgh Steelers still have everything in front of him. Ben Johnson and his Bears team insane to think where they are right now, especially with how it started. I would all start. I mean, it's just, it's a wild story.

Bear died! At the top of the North. The Bears, the Kings of the North. Get used to it, Ty. Says Chicago people. No, for sure. Do the playoffs start next week? No, we got like a month and a half, two months left, right?

So we'll check back in. But yeah, the Bears are Ben Johnson. He's the real deal. He is the real deal. That's Green Bay Packers fan. Do you give me the run. down real quick on that Packers game. I literally did not have a chance to watch it. I was excited to see what James did. I saw a couple updates, but I just run me down through the real quick of

the game. The Giants kind of ran the ball at will. James looked pretty good. He had about five or six balls that probably could have been intercepted. Jordan Love's stats weren't great. The wind was a very serious deal. But when it mattered, Jordan Love had this touchdown pass to Christian Watson. And then on the most, you know, the Giants, going down to tie it. James finally in the most important moment of the game in the Red Zone he threw a pick that I don't think was really on him but all

and all James actually looked pretty good you could tell that the Giants played very hard for him. Yeah and it wasn't just James Did he not get a false start on that play? I don't know I didn't see it. Let's watch it back. That was definitely a false start. On James James? James yeah, falling backwards you think? Yeah.

Such a James play. Yeah, he locks in He is falling. Now it's not the time. James now's not the time. But even in this snap, obviously James is entertaining. Before the game,

we heard his speech. He had a press conference afterwards. And I don't know if he saw, he brought back to Harlem Shake, too. He absolutely crushed it. I mean, just absolutely. This is the best angle. Dude, the Harlem Shake.

Clean. Keep going. Yeah, not enough. After he did the feet, could have, after he swept the feet, could have been done. He said, no, let's toss another one on top. He obviously,

did Hamilton, did the Harlem shake. He's taking a tour. I don't know if he's going to bring Pete's out for Brooklyn. I'll be very excited to see what James does, but that is literally James football. Let's talk about football growing worldwide. We need James maybe in a Super Bowl at some point. That'll help, but also the traveling game

seemingly smashing success. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Jay, I let you know that I thought you kind of did the Bucks Bill's game. You did it justice and you didn't respond because I think you thought I was being sarcastic. I was being genuine. Just want to clarify that here. But the international games, yeah, wrapped up. in Spain. Kind of awesome this year with

Ireland getting their first game ever. How do you think about the entire international slate? It is being reported today, actually, that the Saints possibly might play in Paris next year as early as next year. And also, yeah, Spain did a fantastic job. Set it

up perfectly. I saw McQuaid actually mentioned that he thinks that a Super Bowl should be played over there just because of how special and great it was. I'm not sure if there were McQuade stats on the field itself. I believe, you know, in order to do this, lads, like, we're talking just pounds and pounds and pounds and pounds of paella to actually smooth out the seams. We remember a couple years ago, you know, in, I believe it was the Tottenham Hots for stadium, lads.

There was the big seam down the middle, and we remember David Bocciari basically was bitching and moaning about, hey, I can't play on this. They brought a lot of fresh paella kind of smooth those seams out, and a lot of lads were actually saying, hey, this is the best turf I've ever played on Lott's. You're talking about Spain. That is Irishman, McQuaid, Jage. But go ahead, Conman. Yeah, but, Jay, overall, how do you feel about it? What do you think about the Saints possibly playing in Paris next year? And what do you think about, too,

is suggesting Jerusalem next year? I'm going to stick with the Spain game here. I thought it was, I mean, that stadium is unbelievable. Like, everybody's well aware that that stadium, what they did there is incredible. They built something spectacular. What I will say, which is really interesting, is I've seen so many people saying this is a reason why the NFL players should be mad that they don't have grass. If they can do it like this, we can do it.

Well, I'm 100% on board with that. I'm with the players on everything. But this is very similar in a way to what Houston had a while back with bringing the grass in and putting it together. And like you just mentioned, Tottenham with the grass and the seams, it's, there's seems. There's a lot of seams in that field because those are all put together. So it's an unbelievable system. I think it's incredible. It does still have, I mean, that's an engineering feat that, like, I don't, it was hard

to get your brain to comprehend. So much money. So much money. But I do think that this thing is headed towards an international game every week. I think that's what the NFL wants. That's what the commissioner wants. I think we're headed towards at some point, maybe not week 18, but every week other than week 18, I would imagine there will probably at some point be.

All right, we have 30 seconds to a hard out. You talk about the grass not being good. The NFL has filed a grievance against the NFLPA about the report cards. Just quick take on that, just one sentence, maybe two or three, about the NFL and the NFLPA may be doing away with the way with the report cards are currently being done. Which teams complained? Was it the ones with good grades or the ones with bad grades? We don't know exactly because there's no transparency. I think we do.

And also, they trust the players to vote on the Pro Bowl, but they don't trust them to vote on how the facilities are. There's a lot of interesting things here. I, it's, it's strange. I don't think Vikings complained, probably. They were number one in literally every category. It probably wasn't them who complained. And what happens if an owner comes out and says that their quarterback's no good? Is that public disparagement?

Because that sure feels like public disparagement. I'm just trying to piece this together here because somebody's upset and you would imagine that it would be the people that had to do out some money to do it. So maybe don't be cheap, build a nice facility, treat your players well, make them happy, be a friend, tell a friend, something about that you love them, and have a great day, be a friend, tell a friend. Go, I can never remember. Have a great day.

It's so close. That was perfect. That was perfect. Oh, that's amazing. What the fuck is it? You nailed it. You nailed it. Yeah, you just tell them whatever you want, dude. I think you nailed it. That's what you need to tell a friend at that moment right there.

Yeah, that was good. Damn it. Hey, that was a good take, too. Nice. Be your friend, tell a friend. No, be a friend. What is it? That's whatever you wanted to me, brother.

Something nice. Be a friend, tell, be a friend, tell somebody something nice. Close. I mean, you had the first two sentences the whole time and then you just abandoned ship. A friend might change somebody's life. Close. Very close. You don't believe.

Be your friend, tell a friend. Something nice might change their life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's more so on me than it is on you. You have no idea what it is probably the delivery. You know, that should be something that's the least catchy at this point. But way to nail that. And I want to let you know, you went from take to close off like a seasoned vet. No mistakes. No flubs.

It ended muted. What the fuck is it as it's hitting zero. That's wonderful. Now, let's talk a little bit more about the report card, so shall we? Yeah, that's talk about it. Yeah, because we've kind of delayed the conversation until this moment. with you because I enjoy the way you view it. You get very upset for the players, I think, which I respect and appreciate. Your resume is also a Hall of Fame one. So normally the people that are speaking for the players in the NFLPA type situations are not Hall of Fame players. Normally, it's like people that are NFLPA people. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing,

but all of us just thought of all of us. How many years you play, JJ? 12. How many years you play, AJ? 11. How many years you play? 12. How many years you play? Nine. 52 years of NFL experience, okay, here on this. I said NFLPA players, and we all thought the same people, okay? Not normally Hall of Fame people, okay?

Not normally like Hall of Fame guys. Hall of Fame people, yes. Hall of Fame players, though, is not normally what it is because it does take a lot of other stuff. So anytime somebody like you speaks out about things that are NFLPA issues, I think it's a big deal. I also appreciate how passionate you are in the pro player side of all of this. Now, here's what the NFL was saying about the NFLPA report cards.

According to my source says at the league. Obviously, you addressed it. The disparaging thing, not supposed to publicly disparage each other. Obviously, there's a lot of opportunities for that for both sides. That's a part of the CBA agreement. This is a part of our business. They say that the report card is certainly disparaging to the league, and it's coming out very publicly.

Transparency and who's voting is what they say. We heard like five guys on one team's voting, 10 guys voting on another team. who are these guys? Are they actual players? And then they say there's been times that direct statements from the pillars of the teams have contradicted the report cards shortly afterwards. I think what was stated was something along, Kansas City Chiefs, something came out about a training room or something. And then Patrick Mahomes or Travis or somebody, Chris Jones, somebody came out and said, like, we have the best trainers in the entire NFL.

So they, I think, the way they are viewing it is we would just like to know who's voting in this entire thing. And then I pushed back and said, but it has to be made public, right? Like, it has to be made public because that's the only way that change happens. And I was told, yeah, but if the owner knows this information, like, think about Jim. And think about the Ursa girls right now. Like, if they know this information, they'd be likely to change it. And I immediately fired back. Cincinnati was charging players for Skyline Chili for lunch.

Okay. So, like, there's a little bit of a, there's a little bit of a different level on this entire thing. So I think they are not necessarily completely out on it. But they're just like, hey, we need to at least know who's saying what in this entire thing. Is their kind of angle on it? Why do they not have any people? Pro bowl voting. Why do they not have any issues with Pro Bowl voting, award voting, all of that? Because I know the guys go into there and one rookie fills them out for the whole group.

Or guys or the PR person fills it out for him. But they're fine with that. Nobody's ever questioned any of those things. They're fine with voting that literally affects contracts because if a guy gets voted to the Pro Bowl, that he can have an incentive in his contract where he gets much more money because of it. But that's all. We don't know how that works. The fan voting, everything like the coach voting, like that.

who filled those out? You and I both know that in the locker room those are not properly filled out. Yeah, and the top 100 players or whatever they, I don't think I,

I think I voted on that one time at the Pro Bowl, but all the other shit, I've never really voted on anything. And it's like, okay, so who is the ones doing it? I think for all the polls

that come out of locker rooms, we all kind of question that type of thing. And in the disparaging, in the disparaging comments section, I mean, I have a million thoughts on that. I had a heart issue

when I was playing, and I found out that that was going to be reported nationally because somebody, in the building leaked it so you want to talk about disparaging players like there is a whole bunch of shit that goes on that's disparaging from that side of things that is a lot worse than we're eating shit food in the cafeteria all right there's like a whole bunch that goes on so don't tell me that that's a big deal and lastly like i said it's the teams that are getting bad

grades that are frustrated which i understand like yeah you're you're looking bad and that's the vikings look unbelievable the dolphins i believe had incredible grades and like yeah Players want to go play for those teams who do these things and treat their people well. So if they just, they don't want to spend money. They don't want to get right. And if you're complaining about something, it's generally for a reason. And we've seen improvements made. There's reasons teams make improvements and things get better.

It's, I don't know. I get very frustrated when like there's one little thing that the players have finally to voice their opinion on what's going on in their building. And now that thing is being suppressed and like, no, you can't do that. See, I mean, the Jets owner literally. called their quarterback shit basically in London. Like, come on. And I think... Go ahead.

He's a forward pass. What's that? He didn't call him shit. No, yeah, he... Yeah, I take the word literally back. I apologize. Redact. Redact. Dump, dump, dump. He didn't literally say it. He let all of us say it. And he led us to basically

going in and say, and he would say, that's what they said. I didn't say. I was just pointing out the obvious with my team. And it's like, well, we're just pointing out the obvious with your building is kind of what James is kind of saying here. And I think in the report here at the NFL League meeting, in March, New York Jets' Chairman Woody Johnson,

who, along with Art Rooney, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Michael Bidwell, the Arizona Cardinals, which obviously a massive piece of this conversation, and David Tepper of Canada Panthers, received ownership grades, a D or worse, called the survey totally bogus in him that it violated the CBA. Now, that would certainly be a move I would

be doing as well if my shit was told to be bad to my fans who are expecting me to want to win as much as they do and everything like that. And I appreciate you saying it's the first time the players have really had a voice and the NFL goes that's illegal can't have it we've negotiated every way for you not to have a voice what I am saying is if I'm an NFL owner a billionaire and I didn't know that these things

could potentially come out the way that they've come out the last couple years I think there should be some sort of agreement for both sides here like the NFL and the NFLPA because I don't think you can just eliminate these report cards at this point I don't think you can eliminate a ranking at this point I think the NFL is going to have to understand that but we still need public pressure we still need public pressure that's the only way you're doing and the league should want that, by the way. The league should work their building's not to be ass. Yeah, what I can say about being in that room when I, when I had the chance to do these things, was that was the vote. There were two votes that were taken seriously, team captains and the NFLPA report card.

That was the, those were the two times where we handed out cards in the room and everybody stayed in there and thoughtfully went through their answers because you don't want to screw up your team captains. You take a lot of pride in that. You know what it means. And you also wanted to things right in terms of the building both good and bad you don't want to like we we knew the volume that this held the value that this holds so we didn't want to screw that up like I said pro bowl voting top 100 voting like all the awards definitely those were just tossed um but those two he's got one of these awards but you're saying um if we're going to look at just this vote as opposed to all the other ones that are very let's make sure if we're doing

any voting. Let's make sure it's transparency is what you're saying. We need transparency. I mean, I just, I think that it's, I think it's been great. I think that it's been really cool to see which teams. And I mean, you talk to guys around the league, like what we've seen publicly reported in terms of the grades lines up with what you've heard from players. That's not, it's not like, it's like, oh my gosh, that team was that bad? Like, well, no, I've heard that for years. Or that team was that good? I've heard that for years. Jade, to your point, one owner told ESPN, the only owners who don't care for the report cards are the ones who get subpar grades. So owners that have invested in their building and everything like that, I think they're okay with the report cards coming out too.

Yeah, that's a shit organization over there. Do you think, like between us, you just said, whatever, 54 years or whatever between all of us, if we went down and we ranked, just from what we've heard from teammates and friends and guys around the league, and we ranked where we thought everybody ranked, I would bet we get pretty damn close. to what those record. No doubt. Yeah, because it's been talked about forever is what you're saying, basically. Like, all of these places that are being showcased to the world

for being ass, not necessarily the team, but the buildings, it's been talked about amongst players for a long time. So I think, Jage, the reason why you are potentially so upset is because finally

there was maybe something that could change it. You know, because players have been telling their ownership groups for a long time, but hey, can we get another cold tub?

Like, can we, can we get them? Yeah. Our team meeting is in the same place is where we're eating. Like, can we, can we add a shed? And there is, I'll give a little defense to the ownership in that there has become a

very high level of expectation from colleges having such unbelievable facilities to now kids coming in and seeing that, wait, some of these NFL facilities are way worse than my college facility and now seeing what some other teams have done or you've heard like, oh, wow, they have that. Why don't we have that? There is some, like some of these requests are getting a little up there, but there is a baseline that there should be that a few teams definitely don't reach. Younger, newer ownership, too.

Like, I'm thinking about the big three here in Indianapolis. It's like, they don't want their players to think, like, hey, our stuff shit. Yeah. Like, I think there is a little bit more with younger owners. Maybe, as opposed to them cutting corners and saving every dollar, I think younger owners might be a little bit more in tune to, like, what is potential. So maybe this won't be an issue, like, in 10, 15 years as, like, the old, hey, this is bottom line business.

people aren't going to invest in their company owners kind of fade away, but I think there is a little bit more, because everything's social media, everything's shown. So you almost like see a lot more now of what's happening behind the scene. So it's like, I don't think anybody wants to get exposed anywhere. Yeah, like the truly great owners see this stuff and they're like, hey, this isn't going to fly on my watch. Like after Dan Snyder, when he was the owner of the commanders, like we remember they had all lefts. And then Josh Harris basically came in and said like, this isn't okay. You tell me exactly what you guys need so we can flip this around. And then they did, you know, had a brand new practice facility

or practice field. They revamped the training room. They did all this stuff and they saw that their grades over the course of one season like they weren't all lefts anymore. They went from the worst team in the NFL to like the middle of the pack and like there are, I think there are several owners who actually look

at this stuff and they're like, that's not okay. This is not the reputation we want around the league. I think there's something. Go ahead, Connor. Well, and just solution wise, like instead of making them public, can't they still all do the report card still and then submit them to you know the NFLPA or the owners and then instead of the news being

hey these are report cards could they not have like a league mandated yearly change where hey this is the report card and this is what we're changing in every building because the report card instead of doing like hey this is the report card it sucks and then later on when all those grades do get better to ties

point like you don't just you don't hear about the the yearly changes or whatever really you mostly focus on all the negative shit that's just today and how is, but if they do league mandated changes, can't that work? The league will never mandate the billionaires that own the league have to spend more money guaranteed every single week.

Don't they have a G5 fund? But on that, no, that's to do like repairs and stuff like that, the things which could potentially be your building, but some of these buildings need full thing. I don't know if they'll ever agree to guaranteed money spending on the other side. Maybe they just released the top 25 teams in order. Yeah. Yeah. Release the

top 25 teams in order, and if your team's not on there, ass. Can you build a song for it? Can we build a song for it and put a cartoon to it? Maybe the top 12. Yeah. Maybe they do put out the top. Well, 12, I don't think.

Top 12 last place down to one. Yeah, but I don't think. Back down to one. This team has no cold, tub. That's actually pretty good. Write that down. Write that down. Let's not redact that.

Let's keep one. You probably shouldn't have rookies or maybe say, hey, only third, like, you've got to be in the league two or three years before you take this poll. Because if you're a rookie coming in, you don't really know the ins and out to the training room and the staff and all that and you might have these elevated expectations coming from a crazy college place that you know they're trying to bring recruits in so they have that was always a known thing i assume you guys knew that like i assume when i went to the NFL the facilities will be worse than college i heard that go i was i was wondering if the facilities because of nil now

if college facilities will start to get a little worse house poor brother you don't want to be yeah they don't want to have all the money up uh all the investing money into facilities because guess what we need that money for actually players yeah so if we could actually sell about 4,000 square feet of this gym to somebody to get the money, it's prime real estate. That's a big part of recruiting. No. Is it anymore? That's what we're saying.

Where are you going to be spending? I quit now. But if you have a shit ton of money, definitely have good facilities and also like down there at Texas Tech, they have so much money. So their facilities are going to be very nice and they're going to have enough money to pay the shit, you know, pay all the shit. For teams that don't have a shit ton of money,

it's like, do we would rather have money to give to players or would we rather have money to upgrade our 15-year-old weight room, right? Like, that's the decision that's coming in. That's kind of short-sighted, though, because, yeah, you want the top flight players, but we all know, like, you're only as strong as that, the middle of the pack, the guys that are playing special teams, like, and those are the guys that are not making the big money, but if it comes down to these three or four schools, like, okay,

but these facilities are great, the meeting rooms, the hot cup tub, cold tub, all these different shit, because even coming from Yukon, like, they made the guys that built it. They built a great facility and then you go, because I assume the opposite. I assume once you go to NFL, everybody has type of, top flight shit. And we definitely took a step down going from Yukon to New England at that time.

I don't know how much has changed at this point. Colts as well. Yeah, West Virginia was not, they built our facilities while we were there. Same. Same one of them. Pat White, Steve Slate, and you guys were Lovsky, you guys kind of built that place. And they got to read the benefits of it for sure.

I mean, AJ took a pay cut to go to the NFL. also. Exactly. Well, that's also with AJ, though, at Ohio State, they're an NFL factory there. So he's got a lot of OGs coming back and telling him about what the NFL is like, which I think is an advantage to a program that has a lot of NFL guys. West Virginia, we had PAC, Slim, Chris Henry coming back and like basically telling us what NFL. I didn't have really any info about the NFL other than just being a fan of the NFL

for my entire life because I grew up in Pittsburgh and when the Steelers won the world's better. Now, did I fall in love with the Pittsburgh Steelers? Certainly love when they won, but I love the NFL players. I just like players, I like the league, I like everything about it. But I didn't know like the ins and outs of it. And I think that's because of West Virginia, we didn't have a lot of NFL guys. But to your point, I thought I was walking into. Yeah.

That's the one that got drafted. I could wait. I'm like, oh, man, every day I'm going to be walking in this place. I can't wait. First time I walk in. Plus this shit hole. No. Didn't think that, but I did think, wow, like, I think West Virginia at this point, he's gotten nice.

It was almost like, we're back to like my sophomore year at West Virginia all of a sudden. It's like sitting down. We got the cage lockers, obviously. There's no. like, hey, where were the Steelers at on that list? Because we know the Steelers are, they have to be where they are splitting their facility with Pitt. Like, I would assume they didn't

grade super high. Yeah, it's, Runei was in of a part of the conversation, yeah. The split facility is wild. The split facility is wild. Yeah, there's more information. Because Tomlin can go to Narduz. Yeah, and ask them questions, and Narduz can do the same. They did the volleyball thing. Remember,

volleyball down and puns. Yeah, the dudes loves it. Such a better bond. We can work Your point about when you walked in the NFL locker room is really interesting, too, because if you think about it, who is in your locker room and, like, the leaders of the locker room and the guys that are giving you the information and teaching how to be a pro, that is so vastly different from team to team. And it completely changes it because, like you said, you've never been in the NFL before. This is your first experience. And the only thing shaping your entire experience is this group. And if you got a shitty group, you have a completely different outlook, a daily routine, and future vision than a guy who comes into an incredible locker room and is set up for success. I walked in there, Adam Vinatieri's on the team.

Yeah, right. What a hilarious situation. Then Peyton's like one of the greatest leaders of all time. So I'm just going to watch these guys, I guess. I just lucked out that I just fell into the fucking greatest 10 years in the history of the NFL. I'm going to watch them. But to your point, like, that's the only reason why I was successful. Great as what?

Sorry, winningest decade in the history of the NFL, regular season. Yeah, there it is. I wasn't to the last part. We don't need the fucking... I just walked into the Patriots locker room, so I thought that, so he couldn't think the same thing. I walked home. Tom Bradyers, who just won the Super Bowl the year before.

Brady balls. That's what I did. Bless Smoker. Well, I pay a man, Dallas Quarka, boys. You see more. Eddie Bruske. Yeah, not enough trophies for those boys. I agree.

They really fucked that up. ran into a tough, tough, tough squad up in the Northeast. I mean, Philip Rivers at home, too. I mean, they fucked it up. Well, now, to be clear, Philip Rivers at home, it was the reason why I got drafted. Which shout out. Yeah, so I appreciate it.

Let's not forget Steelers in Indy. That's a good point. Let's get out of here. I got back. We don't need to talk about. I appreciate you, man. You're the best. Keep killing it on Sundays.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wong. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a chance to catch up with Jeremiah Love. And I'll tell you what, the running back from Notre Dame is obviously incredibly talented on the field. Off the field with the chat with us, I think he's going to make you fall in love with him. And I know a lot of people aren't going to feel this way, but maybe even the entire Notre Dame operation. We'll see you on the other side. What is it like under Coach Freeman? What is it like being a Notre Dame fighting Irish football player?

Is it a full commitment? Is everywhere you go? Everybody knows who you are, I assume, at this time. time? Yeah, pretty much. It's pretty much a full commitment. I've got to give everything my heart, really, school, football, and then even off the field, like, you know, I got things I got to do, just business-related. So all my time is taking up, but, you know, I'm all in on football, you know, do whatever I got to do, you know, in the classroom, so I ain't got nobody worried about me grade-wise. And then, you know, making sure I'm getting extra work in.

and constantly improving so that coaches can continue to trust me to go out there and make plays. But, you know, I'm all in to everything. School, football, you know, outside life. Pretty busy, man. Hey, you're a little bit. You're a young legend, pal, and we've enjoyed learning about you and watching you play. And it's all working out, I would say, with how much you're all in on everything. Let's talk about, obviously, you just cooked pit.

And it seems like the grass wasn't that big of a deal that I thought there maybe was going to be. Did you feel anything with the grass being asked? because obviously you looked like you were floating around Acresure. No, I didn't feel the grass. Actually, I didn't. I think the grass is actually pretty good, I think. You know, I felt pretty gripped down. I mean, I wouldn't slip me.

I did slip one time, actually. So the grass was, it didn't catch me one time. It caught me up. And I was going to be out on this play. It was like a mid-zone play. I was going to be out and I freaking slipped or like I tripped or something. I don't know. It was probably the grass because you said the grass.

It's trash. That's what they say. They say the grass's ass, but it looks pretty good, I will say. So the groundskeepers are going to be pumped to hear what you just had to say, especially because they had a double weekend. Let's talk about the Pitt game a little bit in the atmosphere. You know, the big story of that game was for Pitt, Coach Narduzzi said it on the other side.

We can lose by 100 in this particular game. It doesn't really affect the outcome of our year because we can still win the ACC. Thought there was a chance. That's how it was going to go, the first couple minutes of that game. I thought maybe you guys were going to win by 100. But the story for you guys, and it's been the story all year, basically, is another loss and it's over. Another loss and it's over. Another loss and it's over.

You have that miraculous, amazing, fun run last year. This year, it feels like every week people are wondering if it's going to be over. How have you guys addressed that and kind of focused on what matters as opposed to what could potentially happen with an outcome every week? So what Coach Free does, I will say every week, as he reminds us, you know, of the pain of losing those two games, you know, early on in the season. And he kind of uses that reminder to, you know, help us to make sure we're doing everything that we can to put Notre Dame in the best, but it's impossible to guard and have success. And as a player, what I do mentally is I just respect, you know, every opponent.

I don't go into any game thinking of anybody's going to lay down because at the end of the day, we as a program feel like, you know, people got to talk. on us, you know, no matter, you know, how we're doing, no matter where we're at on the rankings or whatever it may be, you know, people want to beat Notre Dame. So I go into every game, respecting every single opponent. And I feel like this team, in general, goes to every single game, respecting our opponents. And we're not going to play down to anybody's level. We're going to play to our Notre Dame standard. And that's what we try to do, week in, week out, just make sure that we're just doing everything we can to put this program in the best

is the possible to succeed. That's really all it is. Just. stand on a move and working every single day. You know, we're never, you know, settling for anything. We're just constantly trying to get better and reach our full potential every single week. Tell me about getting better and tell me about C.J. Carr. Obviously, we were introduced to him at the beginning of the year. A lot of primetime games, spotlight games.

They don't go your guys' way. And it's like, hey, this guy was like the prince who was promised, basically. You know, his family, obviously, football royalty. What have you seen from the beginning of the season of him starting versus now maybe as he carries himself? He's going for like 270 through the sky every single game. It feels like he's kind of figured it out. What have you seen from him this year?

I mean, since the game, when I've just seen a ton of improvement from CJ, I would say he's always been a baller, like he's always been able to, you know, make the difficult throws. He's never been, you know, the type two cower down or be scared of any defense that we played. You know, CJ has been just elevating mentally, I would say, every single game. I feel like every two of games just getting smarter. I would use an example. So, like, last game, they pit showed like a little blitz, a blitz package or whatever they were doing. And CJ immediately recognized it and went out of his way to motion Malachi down so that he can get a better angle on coming to, you know, block that safety.

And that's just something that CJ just recognized, you know, just from him, you know, going through whatever he has to go through as a quarterback to see. whatever's going on defensively. And he picked that up and was smart enough to move his guy down in so that he can get a better block on that safety to give us as running backs a better opportunity to, you know, break free for a touchdown or break free for 10 plus yards. And that's the thing I'm talking about mentally with CJ. He's been able to just get better at things like that week after week after week. And I've been noticing it. I feel like everybody in Billings been noticing it. But C.J.'s has been constantly on the trend of just getting better every single week, man.

And I don't think he's stopping any time soon. You in the backfield as he's doing that. Okay, young book. Okay, young book. Love that. You know, that makes everybody comfortable. That makes everybody confident whenever your quarterback's doing that type of shit. Legit, I think.

That irradiates through everybody, right? Yes, sir. It does. The utmost confidence is C. You're standing back there. Yes, C. Yes, C. You talk about the.

running backs benefiting from that. You guys have a great room over there. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jeremiah, obviously, if it was just you in the room, it'd be the best running back room in the country, but you also have Judarian Price, and then Annius Williams also, like, it's incredible to talent in there. Obviously, you get your touches,

but how is it as a room with all of that talent and everyone wanting to get their touches in a game? I would start off with saying it's a very positive environment in a running back room. Oh, snap. It's very positive. You get choked up, you get choked up talking about the running back room. I get it, yeah.

There's a lot of love in there, a lot of love, Jeremiah and, you know, love as a whole. But it's a very positive environment in the room. You know, everybody wants to see each other succeed. You know, there's not been a moment in any time where, you know, anybody's been jealous of anybody. There's been any type of animosity or anything like that. You know, everybody just wants each other to go out there and do their best, man. I feel like as a runnerback room, that is what helps us, you know, stay together.

And what helps us to, you know, really go out there and perform better because say I might see a look in the game and I don't execute, you know, just with, you know, we wanting to see my teammates do better than myself, you know, I relay something to JD, tell him about something that I saw. And he picks that up quick, goes in there and makes a huge play or goes in there and scores a touchdown. And I feel like that's just how we are as a team. Like everybody wants to see each other succeed, whether that's defensively, offensively, or sports. special teams-wise. Like, everybody wants everybody to get their shine. They want everybody to get the glory, and they just want everybody to succeed, man. That's just how this team is.

I feel like we're really, really close-knit brotherhood, man. That's a great culture, great culture. And you're also seemingly at this point have a very calloused culture as well. Go ahead, D. Yeah, absolutely. You mentioned Coach Free earlier, and you guys had a great run all the way to the title game last season. How does a team feel compared? I know every year's a new team, but how does the team feel compared to last year?

going into this home stretch, kind of going to, I know you're not in the playoffs yet, but going into the home stretch of the season. I feel like this team is really good, man. Compared to last season, I would say I feel like the brotherhood is there more. I would say, you know, kudos to last year's team and whatever we were able to accomplish, you know, we got to get to the national championship. We didn't win it all, but we got there. We took some lessons from that.

And as far as this team, this season, man, we're ready to go, really. You know, we got to focus on the now, you know, finish the season out, the regular season. But once that's over, man, we're putting our foot on the gas and we're going. And we feel very confident in our ability to go out there and compete with anybody. But this team in general, man, a brotherhood is there. You know, we've got the players. We've got the culture. We've got the coaches.

So we're just going to go out there and do what we got to do and put our best for. forward and you know compete I'm a big fan of yours Jeremy seems like every answer you give I become a bigger fan of yours I am now granted how many is this your last year how many years you got left of eligibility I got one more year

of eligibility left after this it's awesome West Virginia would certainly love to have you you know I don't do any you know any of that type of tamper and stuff but it seems like you're going to go down the record books in the Notre Dame halls of fames if you will tie has a question for you yeah Jeremiah obviously with so much left in front of you

guys this year, it's probably hard not to just stay present and be in the moment. But have you had the opportunity to think about like the legacy that you'll leave behind at Notre Dame? I went to Catholic school first grade through high school. And if you go to Catholic school, like you want to go to Notre Dame. And when people become Notre Dame fans, like it's a lineage thing. They're Notre Dame fans, their kids are, their grandkids are, et cetera, et cetera. Like, have you had the opportunity to think about that? Because you already, I mean, you already are a legend at Notre Dame. But when you get you know when you leave and you are a legend at notre dame like you you live on forever you'll outlive yourself your kids all that kind of stuff like if you do what you have done

and continue to do like you will be a legend at notre dame you know long after you're gone have you had the opportunity to think about that at all um a few people have asked me what type of legacy i want to leave um but like i haven't really took the time to sit down and really think about it. If I'm just to go off the top of my head, like, you know, I want to leave a legacy of greatness, I guess you could say. You know, I want people to think of me and think of a guy who never gave up, you know, played through anything and everything, played for my team, did things not for myself, but for the guys that, you know, I trained with every single day. I just want them to think of a guy that, you know, tried to inspire people through his play. Because at the

end of the day, that's really what I want to do. I feel like God gave me an ability to do great things on a football field. And, you know, I want to use that ability to inspire lots of people to just be themselves because it took me a lot to get here, man. It took a lot of hard work, lots of ups and downs. So I hope people, you know, after my career here, look at my story and my journey and inspires them to be themselves and to keep going and to just do whatever they want to do and have fun with it, you know. But I haven't really had to. had time to think of my legacy but um yeah it was just spitballing right now yeah this is what i would like people to hopefully think of you know i laid it all in line for my team we won a lot i work my ass off

to get here i hope i inspire others to do the same and i want to let you know brother sign sealed delivered your legacy's already set at notre dame we can't wait to see everything else that you do but a part of that inspiration in the road that you took to this place was uh visited with gen lotter early in the season i want to let you know man maybe the best thing i've seen somebody do in a long time is be that transparent. Connor has a question. Yeah, Jeremiah, the gen lot of piece from Game Day was incredible, and it kind of talked about your upbringing

and who you are more so just as a human, let alone a football player. And one thing she said in there was how your mother kind of mentioned that you told her when you were, you know, five years old, you know, mom, I don't really feel emotion. Is there part of that journey where you developed those types of things? Is it something where you're more emotionally intelligent where you can kind of feel the

vibes off of other people versus actually feeling them yourself. And also, did you use that to your advantage? Like, at what point did you view it more so as a gift from God and something that you can use to make you a better human, better football player, better everything? There's definitely been some evolution in my emotions. As a kid, like you said, I didn't tell my mom, I didn't really feel emotions. And that was true. Like, I really didn't. Like, a lot of things didn't phase me. A lot of things didn't move me. I was just the type of kid who I feel like was kind of just there. I mean, I was just there going throughout whatever I was doing in the day. Didn't really feel too much of anything. But as I've gotten older, you know, as I've, you know,

just got to experience a lot more things like love and friendship and things like that. Like my emotions have definitely shown up a lot more. You know, I'm still working on being more. emotionally intelligent. I feel like I've got a great vibe on people. I feel like I can tell how people feel about me and I know how to read situations now. But emotionally, I feel like I am a lot more there than I was as a kid. Like I feel a lot of things now. I feel, you know, love. I feel happiness. I feel sadness. I feel a whole bunch of things. But I just got to become more emotionally intelligent. I feel like I'm still growing in that aspect. But But definitely way different than I was as a kid.

And I used that to my advantage in football, or I used it in my advantage in football growing up, because whenever I would lose or whenever we would lose games, I wouldn't care. And I was just immediately want to get back to work. Like, it wouldn't faze me. I would use the games as more of a lesson rather than a loss and I should go feel down. And even still today, like, whenever we are to lose games, like, yeah, I'm like, I didn't want to lose. but at the same time I still have that mindset of I don't think that I lost. I'm going to use it as a lesson.

You know, even when I lose, I win because I learn something. And I just feel like that's just a weapon for me. Like things don't affect me like how it affects other people. And I just use it to my advantage, you know? Well, I hope you get a chance to experience the happiness that your game in your hard work has brought. And we are very thankful that we're getting a chance

to watch your entire story kind of unfold in front of our eyes. And thank you for being so transparent through it all. From feeling like you're just existing, basically is what you said there as a young boy, to now thriving and inspiring

and motivating an entire country. Your special, dude, we're lucky you came on the show. Thank you for taking the time. Thank you. I appreciate you guys. Now, get your ass back to class. You're the man.

Ladies of gentlemen. Jeremiah, love. Thank you, Jeremiah. Hey, he was awesome. He was legitimately. He came sprinting from a class for us to record that, and then he was heading back to another class. He is a cool dude, and the fact that I think he said on game day,

like growing up didn't play football, kind of picked it up later. He's only going to get better, stronger, tougher, and he said what he worked on in the offseason was running people over. So not only is he dynamic, obviously, and mentally it sounds like he's in a better spot because of everything he's been through than maybe everybody else, but now he wants to work on the physicality even more. And he has some of the toughest runs in football over the last couple of years.

It's like, this guy's going to be a monster on Sundays, and obviously Notre Dame knows that. What a perfect kid to be at Notre Dame, isn't it? Like, listen to him speak. He seems so intelligent, so smart, so, like, dialed in. But, yeah, his story is cool. I remember the game day piece up, as you guys talked about it a lot. He, yeah, I love this kid. It's really hard not to root for him.

And when you watch his play on the field, like, there's so many plays, I feel like to where this dude is down, either he's on the ground, he's stopped or whatever, and all of a sudden-yard touchdown run. Like, that's what I think of when I think of Jeremiah Lowe. We talk about home run speed with a couple of those running backs that we've seen around the league, A Chan, Sequin, Jonathan Taylor. We had eyes boots on the ground. What, a 98-yarder with this guy?

Against Indiana, yeah, that was really the – where it was super cagey, and then all of a sudden that happened, and it was kind of like that was kind of the play that kind of catapulted Notre Dame into, you know, going to the national championship. That kind of started everything. And also, he was kind of banged up throughout that entire – entire playoff run. Yeah, exactly. Like, it was almost every game.

Like, I don't know if he's going to – to play. And obviously, yeah, we, I mean, we were right there, I think on the goal line, you know, almost getting ready to head to Columbus for the next day. And then boom, this happens. And it's like, wait a minute now, Notre Dame's kind of, you know, cooking with gas here. A little bit different. Yeah. Jeremiah, watching him run, he's different to everybody else on the field. Like, he's more explosive, seemingly has the ball, seemingly has a lot more yards. And then all of a sudden, they just ride him, you know, and Riley, obviously. But they ride him all the way to the national championship. Then this year, first couple games, he wasn't

getting the rock as much. It was kind of like they were splitting it. We're like, what's going on with love? We saw him on the sideline. Is he hurt? Is he not heard? No, he's in it. And then obviously they got a great running back room, so they have to manage all of that. But he is clearly the guy. So with Lacey yesterday, Ole Miss, and then out Jeremiah love, you know, we can say we've had the best running back in the country on this show. Yeah. That's right.

18. We pissed some people off yesterday, tone, whenever we were saying, Ole Miss is the home of the best running back in the country. Yeah, I was thinking about that. But it was hard. It's hard not to do that when he's literally staring right-ass, and Lane is saying that into a microphone. Yeah, Jeremiah Love is the best running back in the country. Jeez.

But, hey. I didn't know you're just going to roll over that quick. Lacey was very good for us. Yeah, yeah. Jeremiah was awesome. Yeah, I mean, Jerry. Not that Lacey wasn't, though. I don't think anyone's going to be super mad if we say,

oh, Jeremiah loves the best running back in the country. No, a lot of people actually are super mad that I said somebody else was yesterday. So that is how I learned of that thing. And they didn't even know I had a Jeremiah Love. We talked to him. Yeah, I agree. And I actually told him he's the best running back of the country. There's a lot of those.

There's like three, four guys around the country that are obviously special. Running back position is going to become even more important to the NFL game. As we saw last year, Seekoine Barkley, won the Super Bowl alongside a great offensive line, a great run game. And now we can kind of tell who's going to be on the run to the Super Bowl. Every single week, we get a chance to go in the trenches with AQ Shepley for the top five performing offensive lines of week 11 now. Yeah, huge.

And huge, obviously there's a lot of pressure on the top performing offensive lines because they are going to carry a team to a Lombardi. There's a lot of pressure on you to tell us who the right ones are because they're seemingly a little bit earlier in a season became a little bit of a bias, wasn't there? He was getting phone calls from offensive line coaches and say, hey, you're doing a good job on here. You look thin.

And then all of a sudden, the next ranking is like, hey, number three, shit team is on here. Their offense lines really good. It's like, AQ, feels like you got bought a little bit. Now, we're getting to playoff time. We're getting important football time. AQ, you know what's at stake. We are going to strictly judge who can win a Super Bowl

off of your top five list because the only teams that can win the Super Bowl are teams that have top five performing offensive lines. So I hope you understand the pressure and the magnitude of the conversation starter that you are a part of. I watch 30 hours of film every Monday and Tuesday of every single game.

Wow. Piece by piece runs first. Then I go back and double check it with the past game. Make sure it looks good. Don't ever say I got bought. Never got bought. Never bought integrity full. Let's go to the top five out of week 11.

Number five. The Baltimore Ravens. Congratulations. Why be less so you could be more out there. That's right. They had over 190 yards rushing. Derek Henry gets over 100. I said this when Patrick Ricard game came back,

that they were going to be going up, trending up. And look at this play. It's a double wham. Really, I have never seen this. Normally you wham once. They send Colar and Record. card back, and then there goes Derek Henry 59 yards to set up

a score. Derek Henry is obviously an alien as well. He's 6-3-2-50 or something like that, and he's deep into his career and still has the capability to do whatever, whatever. How come I was watching Budda? And Buda doesn't believe that the Baltimore Ravens' offensive line is top five. He actually thinks

that the right guard might be on the take. Oh, no. That's been quite a topic of conversation about all. That's a great block right there. It is. Daniel Faluley with a great block right there on a really good defensive tackle, kick out,

find a butt, get up in between. See, Bada, you need to watch these plays. Because Butter was showcasing some other place where he was now having said that. He's on top five. He's on top five. That's what Butter said. Bada said, I want an investigation with his hat. I mean, the entire thing.

There it is. He is not happy about this. He played offensive line, too. You can hear that he played offensive line in high school. He goes, You get to the second level. He gets a guy to cross your face. This guy crossed his face. He just lets him go. He's got to be on the day.

He has been catching a lot of flack the last couple of years. He's a big guy. We talk about him a lot on here. He's obviously talked about a lot on the internet. He doesn't bend real well, but he is 390 pounds. He gets in the way. Probably not their best offensive lineman, but he's the best they have to offer,

and he has a heck of a block on this play. But let's watch these types of plays. Maybe he's just trying to get better. But butter said, a right guard ain't that hard, man. right guard ain't that hard but i was like you're either getting this guy or you're going up he missed all of him he said what are they in the fact that they're on top five after watching butter i think it's a surprising i mean that is a mind-blower to me let me also say this too because i think we talk about this a lot too right like the offensive line can play really well

but the scheme also makes them play better than maybe they're capable of playing and i think against this cleveland team it was an up-the-field penetrating defense Monkin, the offensive coordinator had a great plan this game. So they did a lot of pulls. They were trapping guys, letting them get up the field trapped. They were trapping left. They were trapping right. They were whamming right, whamming left. And so I think that helped this group

this week. And obviously, Ricard being back, helps this group. Is this best offensive line in the run game or best offensive line as a whole? Let's give it a hammer. God, Todd. He's got a question about the Ravens at five. No, I just had a question because I did see that Miles Garrett had four sacks. I think they had five overall, so I didn't know if that play is.

Miles Garrett had four sacks. Yeah, so three of those were Lamar Jackson rolling out right play action, nothing there, and then just eats a sack. Three of those. Three of those plays. So it wasn't really a good game by Miles. Three of those plays. Three of his four sacks were literally, you can pull it up. Roll right, nothing there, six seconds, seven seconds.

Chip, boom, okay, cool. Now he comes in and gets the late sacks. That makes sense? So he's a sack. Miles Garrett's a sack merchant. Well, he stole some this game. Here it is right here. This is one of them right here. Just start there, Toad. I mean, throw the ball away. Well, he's trying to get a touch shot.

I'm trying to score touchdown. I'm trying to make a play. I mean, this is seven seconds. Throw the ball. What do we? That was right in the pocket. He did kind of knock that tackle down right off the off. Yeah, there's the one.

There's the one. That was the only one where he had a clean one where it was a highlight real play. I mean, he threw Rosengarten. Listen to this offense alignment. Listen to this offense line. A.Q. Guy had four sacks against you guys. Three of them not on the old line, though.

You know how many times. You blame me. Do you know how many times we sat in a room and watched quarterbacks jerk the ball off back there and say, throw the fucking ball. Throw the ball. Yeah, because you're holding on for dear life. For dear life.

Every single play, all season long, we're inferior athletes going against freakzoids. If it's meant to be out, five-step hitch, throw, get it out. We can't do this. Yeah, so it shouldn't be the only other lines what he's saying, Tone, even though he even got a co-signed from Frankie Skates in the back to

as soon as Tone dropped in the ear and goes, didn't Miles Garrett have four sex? And then Nick in the back goes, he did. That's happening while you're talking This was best case scenario for me because it gets him to kind of talk shit a little bit on the Ravens offensive line

and I kind of had an idea of what he would say about Miles Garrett so that was a win-win for me. Okay, yeah, I'm happy you got it in there. Miles Garrett, great football player. Great football player. Okay, let's go. Number four, perform an offensive line. San Francisco 49ers.

Congrats to them all the way back. Christian McCaffrey averaged 6.2 a carry. They ran for over 100 as a group and let me hear before we let this run. Okay, so when we run counterweek, everybody from the day one install AJ knows it DeButs knows it everybody has ever played defense knows

you kick out the end man and you rap watch what they do they send Trent Williams out they leave the three tech unblock because he's reading Trent Williams which widens the hole now you get the easy kick out use check up underneath 20 yards up the middle everything has reason and purpose you're saying and it is all it to block

somebody easier and better that's exactly right this Dante still's former West Virginia mountaineer falling for the Kool-Aid right there yeah well hey listen Sometimes you've got to believe what you're seeing, especially if you're getting duped like that. If you live in a paint, you're going to get dunked on. But Christian McCaffrey matched with the Shanahan run scheme in this offensive line has been a match made in heaven, especially if he's healthy with juice as a fullback for him.

He's been fantastic. And I think what Christian has done week in and week out from week one until now, he's gotten better every single week. They are so close to him being back to where he was in 23 when he was having an unbelievable year, 23, 22, whenever he comes over. And it's like, they are so close. They're getting better. they're getting healthier. Everybody's blocking, straining.

They are this close to being 150 yards rushing every week. The Rams are next for the San Francisco 49ers. No, who the San Francisco 49ers play next? I think they've got three easy games, don't they? I don't know if there's any easy games. But you get what I'm saying. Teams that aren't. Team record-wise.

Okay, so they have Carolina next. That ain't an easy game. No, easy. What are you looking at the record or film? That's a good football. You're looking at the record or film? I'm talking just strictly record. You look at them because they have the fourth or third place schedule.

So their schedule, strength of schedule based off last year's record, they have a pretty easy schedule. I want to say it's either the first or second easiest schedule in the league. They got Carolina, Cleveland, Tennessee, Colts, Chicago, then Seattle, obviously. Chicago by then. You think Christian McAfre goes for 150 plus in at least one of those games? I mean, rivalry game, right? That's his old team.

They traded them away. Oh, you're saying this weekend he goes for 150 plus. You don't respect the Panthers at all. Watch that. don't know what you're saying. Did you watch Packers Panthers? This is a good football team. I did. I know who they are. And their offensive line Rico Dowdell? Yeah, I know. He ran for

23 yards this past week. It did great. Oh, he's quarterback. It's a quarterback. Yeah, they didn't run the ball much. I mean, it was a different offense. It's unbelievable that that's how you just kind of slide that in there. Now, on that note, who's the number three

performing offensive line out of week 11? The Los Angeles Rams. And why I say that is because I absolutely love their scheme. I cannot wait to see where this goes because Sean McVey is completely flipped to where he was a couple years ago. It was 11 personnel, literally no tight ends, basically on the field, and everything was shifts, motions, wide zone. Now they go 13 personnel, use one of those tight ends as a fullback. Motion one, get two double teams at the point of attack. Fullback, come front side, boom, get the kickout, Kyron Williams.

Look at Devonte Adams blocking in space. I mean, this was the first run of the game. Yeah, they started the game this way. Karen Williams is obviously a weapon for the Los Angeles Rams. We're talking about Matthew Stafford a lot. You're saying, hey, maybe the offensive line needs a little bit of a chatter as well. The O-line's been great, but I love what they're doing scheme-wise. Like I said, with this 13 personnel, because they run about nine different plays off of this exact same look.

They can run front side with the duo. They can go backside with the Bob scheme, which is back-on-backer ISO. They can run the inside zone, the outside zone, and then all the play actions that come off of this. Sean McVeigh's got a big brain, AJ. You can't stop it. you can't yeah i want to ask akeer are there any teams that are very like elite run blockers but they can't really pass block is there any teams like that in the NFL right now so i think whenever you look at san francisco i think that's who they are i think their run game allows them to be

good pass blockers but if they get behind in games and you ask them now to become a drop-back scat protection team they're going to get their heads run over okay so a great answer he's watching 30 hours of film. Oh, yeah. He's watching 30 hours. It's true, though. I know AQ, I know guys, I don't know how you were, but I know guys that were, you know,

big-time recruits is high school O. Lyman, and then they came in and they couldn't pass block. Like, I know that's a thing, too, where you kind of have to, you kind of got to learn. They were big road graders in high school, and then all of a sudden you got a kickslide. He's talking about Kevin Brown. He is talking about Kevin.

What? That's what you're saying? Huh. Oh, absolutely not. I'm talking big old heavy, 375-pound fatsoes that can't kickslide. Yeah, but it sounds like, I'm watching these film with this guy being a road grader, but then he can't pass

block because it sounded like you're talking about yesterday's film. He never crossed my mind. Just know, oh, because you ain't a high state, obviously. Just know that the film that you're not seen. I'm a big fan of Kevin Brown. Okay. Okay, I would like to hear that. Huge fan. I love, when an O-Lignment

is finishing five or six dudes every single play, I'm on board. I love that. I just hate the fact that he decommitted from Penn State. Oh, Kevin Brown? Yeah, but he committed to the coach, he would have stayed. Yeah, exactly. You guys He can still commit somewhere else. I mean, there's no, you know, he didn't sign anything.

No, he can't, and he will sign something as soon as it's allowed to be signed something, which is coming up pretty soon. Oh, then, yeah, just. Eight minutes of highlight. This is the first minute. Just punking these guys. Okay. These poor kids.

That was past protection right there, if you're wondering. Yeah, maybe we're back on a run here. Let me move some big bodies. Let me dump some big bodies. And it's Pennsylvania football, by way. I love it. You know, it's saying no, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to take a shot at in the United States. Some of these D.

What's that? great football players 170 pounds you're talking about safetys that have come down in the box you're talking about safety's coming down a box that's what you're saying Kevin Brown going to West Virginia

changing the entire narrative we love it in trenches and age I don't like what you just did there's seven minutes of him going Hey! Hey! I promise you I was not I was definitely not thinking of him

when I thought he could do anything trust me I don't I don't hold it against him he came on the show Do you really think I thought he was committed to Ohio State Well, I kept you off that screen for sure. Well, I know. I was just saying, I would love to see your reaction if he did a little rope-a-dope.

Oh, and he had a old WVU hat, and then he flipped it to Ohio State or even North Carolina. I'm sure that would have gone well. What a play that would have been. Honestly, what a play that would have been. Because I didn't know about the couch at the end. Their experience arsonist, I think. I think that should be something that is talked about. They were very comfortable spraying that gasoline.

A amateur fireperson gets a gasoline bottle in hand. and panics. It says, no, no, I've seen it on the internet where the fire will come up in there and very rarely goes for it. Tim Brown, Kevin Brown's dad, former NFL offensive lineman, former Rich Rodriguez, hard-edged football player at West Virginia. Side video, we've got a couple different because I think there's local news there as this was all kind of unfolding, kind of chasing him around as if they're a paparazzi.

Dad, Tim Brown, just dumping that gasoline as that fire's going. It's like, oh, they've done this before. Yeah, Tim Brown plays no games. There's been so many different fires that they have started. there are obviously the leaves that's going and burn these things down. I'm sure you're not supposed to do it, but I'm sure there's been some tires potentially that have disappeared, maybe some trash, maybe some dumpster.

They come from a place with a lot of land, it appears. And, yeah, I don't think any of us expect that a couch to be on fire or door on the show yesterday, but hey, memorable, and that's Kevin Brown football. Yeah, and that's the thing about AJ. You know, like he's a little salty for two reasons yesterday. One, of course,

Kevin Brown doesn't choose his school, and second, you know, his adult, you know, cheerleading team did not win the competition. They so I know he is not happy about that. Wait, what? Yeah, Hawker had a pretty... I'm not going to lie. I see the resemblance.

I do. I understand. I don't know what we're talking about him. He flew down to North Carolina right yesterday. Oh, wow. There is. There is. There's a photo caught of Coach Bill Belichick.

I mean, I get it. I get it. Jordan and her adult co-ed cheerleading team that competed against others. And right next to Jordan there is a guy that kind of looks like kind of an old Irish mob boss and then on the other side there's AJ Hawth and I'll tell you what AJ I was assume I don't know the team well and we haven't looked it up and this is most talks about women in sports the AJ one I think is the one doing no oh yeah crushed it actually watched a lot of film not even joking watch all the videos I could not get enough they won the age no the

AJ guy though did in fact the AJ guy freaking crushed not even joke I knew it I knew it I knew hey jim maybe next time you sign up to be a part of this i might tell me i mean how do i i didn't know we had like adult co-ed competition so yeah i got to sign up somewhere it doesn't look like it's like pick up like i don't know if they just have pickup in here and if it's anything like the uh the kid dance and kid gymnast and stuff like that in dance and cheerleader community very intense oh yeah it was like full-blown huge routine long time dance moms yeah my Pittsburgh pennsylvania my daughter oh how could you not that that gym that the dance bombs, Abby Lee.

Oh, yeah. Seven Iron from Nick's house. Oh, shit. A couple of ladies on that show from Plum. Yeah, so anytime I was watching... Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. That was a trip back to Plum

every time you watch that show. It was like, yep, there it is. And Penn Hills, obviously, which is where Aaron Donald was from. So that is, that was a trip back in time there. One of them actually commented. Kelly, I think is her name.

Blash from past. I said, holy shit. I've seen you back. ALDC, yeah. She said, I love what you said. I'm from Plum for the pit open and on Instagram. And then she followed me and I wanted to say, okay, thank you for your donation of time for my entertainment.

Everybody else is back in the day. Because, boy, it was cut through it at Abby Lee. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I don't know how much training Jordan's been able to do with all the recruiting. She's probably been doing for UNZ. But I assume the amount of work that has put into this particular adult tournament, much more than other adult tournaments, if I had to guess.

I hope so. Bill looks fucking disgust. at whatever routine he's seeing right now. So I hope that maybe that was just like a warm-up and not actual competition reps, but he does not look happy with what he sees. She is a champion. If we do recall, when they were on red carpet

and they had all their rings on, she did have her Bridgewater State rings. What a Bill's Super Bowl championship rings? Yes. That guy's wearing one, right? The MC guy with the mic. Yeah, Bill understands. He got to politic a little bit.

He wants to wear a ring. He looks like an NFL vet too, like exactly like the guy. I'm not going to say his name. Who? No. I got way too much respect for him. That is a 10 out of 10 suit. Yeah, I need that.

And Bill giving the guy a Super Bowl ring for the day saying, hey, it's what it could be. You know that. And think about the amount of extra pizzazz and sauce on the intro of this particular team, CB. When the CB team comes out here, cheerleading Belichick, when the CB team comes out here, I mean, the amount of juice on the MC is just through it. And that's what's all about. Bring in the juice. And congrats to Jordan win.

Hell yeah. I said she didn't win. Yeah. But she did win at Bridgewater State. Actually, fantastic program in Massachusetts. Plum High School has a cheerleading competition team. They go and compete. The World Mustangs Heer Fund has supported trips to, like, I think Disney hosts.

Oh, yeah. I think they have, like, host the tournaments and stuff like that. Now, is it a sport because judges are deeming who wins? So. Cheerleader? Yeah. I think they're athletes I said sport

More of a sport than the other thing Trying to be a sport What's that What's that? You ball So I think they're athletes Very very athletic I don't know if

That's good I just got it That's good That's real good Because judges team who wins You know it's like Ice skating Like I don't think they can win

like they can't determine the win they can hope that somebody else judges if they win. Does that make sense? So it's either a sport or a competition. Competition. I think it's a competition if somebody else is judging if you can win. Sport if you can outright win. Don't think it's

non-athouse. Is NASCAR a sport then? Yeah, because you can win. Okay. Yeah, I never thought of that way. Yeah, that does make a lot of sense though. That breakdown of the two, actually. And I think I came up with this in my brain. I don't know how many times I've said it publicly or if I've ever said it publicly, is during, like, the Olympics.

Because, like, Nathan Chen will go out there and absolutely crush it. And then he still has to wait to see if the Russian judge thinks that it was good. Like, can't outright win. So you're competing for a score. Yeah.

Samo's, Jesus, Simone Bowles, have shit that couldn't even be graded. Exactly. Like, she's definitely an athlete. But I don't think, like, if you got a point for everything that you did, as opposed to, like, somebody deeming what you did,

I think that's two different. Yeah, that is interesting because you get points for trying stuff, but if it's not as clean, you get deducted points because it's not perfect. Yeah, so I'm not saying they're not, this is not a, hey, you're not an athlete. Like some of those cheerleading competition.

I'm not gymnastics, obviously. I know this thing. I'm not saying you're not athletic. I just don't, I think sports, the separator is you can, you can outright. Well, there's judges. Yeah, when there's judges, and it's in somebody else's hands,

it is kind of, it's different. I would get so pissed. Like, I'm staring down at a time where my daughter might get into something here that does the judging decides. The amount of what the fuck do you know that you could just, oh my god and let alone if i see a super bowl ring on one of the judges you know yeah i mean what are we

or the emcee what are you even thinking that entire thing all right let's get back to it congrats to cb team get out there and doing it you watch i watched every single clip i could find on x yes is jordan a flyer um i think we should just get back to the trenches let's go in the trenches who's the number two performing offensive line coming out of week 11 of the NFL season to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jacksonville Jaguars. And they were dominant in every facet, pass and run.

They beat the shit out of the charges. Let's watch this man scheme right now. Center guard pull. Look at this. Look at my guy Hainesie right there. Boom. Now watch him take him right into the endzo. Barry on the way.

How good is that? Oh, yeah. How good is that? Oh, yeah. Seventy-three, run, run, run. Boom. Barry on top. That is a hell of a run.

That's a lot of effort. Liam Cohns got a team down. They got a squad. They're going to be very good. I'm telling you, I mean, they're... They ponder the Chargers. Without Brian Thomas Jr. And their own has been great all year long.

They went out and made a conscious effort. They went and got a new guard, another new guard, and a center. They revamped basically their whole team in the last two years, I mean, up front, and they have really become very good at football all of a sudden. They certainly have fans.

I'm not saying they don't have fans, but I appreciate the fact that their fans aren't just attacking everybody for not talking about them all the time. It feels like Jacksonville Jaguars fans are pretty much like, hey, let's just kind of be quiet, actually. Let's just hope that this continues in here. But everything they're kind of working for is seemingly coming together.

And Liam Cohn, damn good play designer and play caller. Unbelievable coach, unbelievable scheme. I think the one thing, obviously, they lose Travis Hunter. And whenever they're another team that whenever they have to throw the ball 45 times a game, that's not the guy. You sure. Yeah, what's going on over here? I just saw the number. We're asking you that.

Okay. I like it. The number one. You guys got to watch the take. Want me to show you? No, that's for you. Please. Please show us.

Let me show us. Hey, Gumpy, congratulations. It's like I fucking said they would. Okay. Yeah, you did Gump's for sure. Gumpy's been singing the praise. First of all, I love this. Look at this.

We got A. Chan as an offset back. And look at the big boy in the backfield. Brunskill. Go back. Again, they're getting in on the 6-0 lineman trend. Look at Aaron Brewer out in space on Frankie Louvre, bury his ass into the ground. Best Center in Football.

This team showed up. Aaron Brewer, best center. in football. O-line's been trending this way. A. Chan's been running like this. This team's got it. This team's got it. Go back. Look how fast he is in the second level, AQ. How good is that? That's what I'm saying. He's the best center in football.

Then he finishes him. Yep. And there's seven reps of him doing that. What is that? What is what? Can we talk about the rep? It's like they got away with one, maybe. Look at him. Pulls the flag. What was that for? I think he thought to himself, is that a football player or not?

Do I really want to call this? This would be a big deal. I appreciate him doing that. I like a little second. Ah, not going to do it. Yeah, we're in Spain. I want to get the fuck out of here, get home. Yeah. Commander's sideline, not happy at all either

because the coaches clearly saw something and then when he didn't throw it, what the fuck, dude? This guy was going to throw it in it. Look at 35, excuse me. You saw the same thing we saw. I think it's on 55. I can't believe the Miami Dolphins.

I cannot believe the Miami Dolphins are the number one performed an offensive line out of week 11 of the NFL season. What is their record right now? 4 and 7. Yep. Still in it. It's every week, brother. Can't judge it on the year.

Okay. Okay. Okay, I would like to say this. How did I set this entire? I need a new script to set this entire thing up. I say, we're going to judge who we think is going to be able to win a Super Bowl. You did say that. You want to know the most interesting thing?

That was my entire lead up. Like, man, you know what? In years past when we've done this, what we have learned is, wow, the teams that are on this list are the teams that are going to be around in the end. And now we've got the number one team, the Miami Dolph. Now, hold on. I know what the new script is. Go back to last year.

The teams that are in the end are the teams that are up here most consistently throughout the year. Okay, so I need to change that. So the teams that go eight weeks, nine weeks, ten weeks. So the Colts have been on here the most. Where are they this week? They're out of five week. Yeah, they should still be up there. They should still be up there.

It was tough to find. I mean, the groups, and there's only 400-yard wrestlers this week. I mean, O-lines are, I mean, we're down this year, boys. We are down. But Miami's up. It's up. It's up. Hell yeah.

It's a good group. It's a good list. Jacksonville's been up. L.A.'s been up. San Fran's been up. Baltimore, first time up since week one. Sports sports think Baltimore is about to get real hot. Me too.

I've been saying it ever since Ricard came back. Ricard is the key. Fullbacks in the NFL are key. Teams using fullbacks or tight-eats. ends as a fullback are the best running team. The key card. Yeah, I think I think I like this Dolphins team in a weird way. I do. I think. And then all of a sudden now I'm seeing the screen up here. It feels like the dolphins are about to get love again. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for everything, D.B., good, D, bad D. Is this bad D? No, this is good Dede. This is

not where I was going to start, but since we carry the Dolphins water, why don't we keep one of my favorite dolphins? And one of kind of the locker room's favorite dolphins is Jack Jones. He actually called his shots, the 13-13 ball game here in O-10. He's matched up against Zach Ertz at the bottom of the screen. He's going to get a chip block and then kind of just run and drag across the screen. This ain't the matchup you want to go through, Marriota. Zach Ertz to Jack Jones, undercutting, doing what he does, just his instincts, his anticipation and his ball skills kind of separate him from the pack when it comes to cornerbacks. He always, when he's around the ball, he's most likely coming down with the

big-time game-winning, pretty much interception right here from Jack Jones. That's first play of overtime right there. Obviously, you're in field goal range at that exact moment. Not that every kick has been made in this particular game. But, yeah, this is game-winning interception, basically, on the defensive side. And the Dolphins winning games now all of a sudden. They're chanting Jack Jones' name in there. We got a chance to catch up with him.

We'll run a conversation with him tomorrow. You're going to love Jack Jones. He's got a sick grill. But also, feels like the culture down there is not maybe dead. Gumpy, what the hell's going on in Miami? They're on the top five performing offensive lines. They're on good D here to start this thing. You've got to be on cloud 10.

They love McDaniel, and they've got some real leaders on the team. Bradley Chubb, Jordan Brooks, leads the league and tackles. You had another 20 on Sunday. They're just sticking together, man. For what it's worth, I know they're four and seven, but they never gave up and they fought in every game they've been in. McDaniel might be a leader down there. Okay, that's good D out of Miami.

What else do you have, D? Absolutely. Let's see where we're at now. Let's start at the top of the league when you talk about takeaways. I believe JJ mentioned it earlier, much like the Pittsburgh Steelers. They live and die on taking the ball away. And that's what the Chicago Bears has been doing at a high clip this year. This is against nine last week. Seven three ball game right here second quarter. Cover three, running back to the beginning real quick, Foxy. Cover three,

start off with the split safety shell. And on the outside, cover three, a lot of times just turning to pretty much man to man. You can tell the difference of the coverage is based on the interior defenders. And just watch Kevin Byer here who's going to have that circle. It's a flat defender He gets his width, covering the tight ends, but reading the intentions of the quarterback, sinks right back into his window. J.J. McCarthy never sees him. And another kind of common thing with a lot of these interceptions

is defenders around the quarterback. A lot of dirty pockets in the National Football League. Nishon Wright, he could have been on here as well. He had a great pick where he went up at high-pointed it. Great coverage here, too. I don't know if Justice Jefferson catches that, even if Byer isn't there. But if you watch, I believe this is Grady Jarrett,

getting right up in the interior of the offensive line. quarterback's hate, you know, you can come off the edge, you can run by guys, but when you get in that interior and get in their face where they can't step into these throws, that's when you really create some havoc. And Kevin Byrick leading the National Football League in interceptions right now with five and two of his teammates are right up there in two and three with Edmonds and Ashon Wright right there who's in coverage. Bears get a huge win in the NFC North. They got the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend at home. Here's a Hembo stat about that. The Bears this season, 22 takeaways, which is most in the NFL, plus 16 turnover margins, also the highest. Steelers this season, 77 points off of turnovers.

in the NFL, plus 54 points off a turnover margin. Okay, so they've been taking the ball away and then making teams get punished by it. Chicago Bears have been turning people over more than anybody else. Kind of a immovable object and a hard place. They're taking care of the ball, too. And Caleb Williams, he's not where he needs to be yet

in the passing game, but they take care of the ball. He's playing well late, and they're running the ball really well as well with that offensive line. Greedy defense on. Yeah, made him a bunch of additions on the offensive line. Swift had a good game. And just all around playing winning football right now. I love that they're the Kings of the North.

Yeah, they are currently. Going to last week, led the league at explosive plays, which is surprising. 10 plus yard runs, 20 plus yard pass. What's that? The third most important stat they're saying when it comes to winning games. Foxy, it's crazy that the Bears are the Kings.

A lot of ball left. So much ball left. Yeah, but what about nine down there in Minnesota? Yeah. I can't really talk shit about nine because he beat the lions in Detroit but I want to talk shit about nine because he stinks.

And nine plays the Packers this week and that would be just on brand for me talking about how much nine sucks. He might go out and throw for 300 yards and rush for 100. I would like to talk about this real quick just because we haven't addressed the nine thing and I think it is certainly something

we should address. In my eyes, everybody loves J.J. McCarthy. Right? Guy's a leader. J.J. McCarthy I'm talking about. Two characters. J.J. McCarthy. off the field. This guy's a great leader. It's got the amount of moxie. Whenever he shows up,

everybody knows him. The aura of a starter, obviously meditation. He takes care of himself. He's all in. Nine is who he becomes on game days. J.J. McCarthy loved by everybody, right? Nine just kind of ass on the field at this point. When nine catches up to JJ, boy, Minnesota's going to be a problem for everybody. When's that going to happen? That's the thing. When you think about, we kind of talked about it earlier, you walked into a locker room with Peyton Manning. I walk into a locker room, Tom Brady, Ben Rothersburg. Edgar, Aaron Rogers. So, like, a lot of these guys, like,

they kind of just who they are. Now, other players, like Brian Dawkins, he turned into, what, like, weapon X? Yep. And you had other people who kind of flip that switch and kind of have these alter egos. I can't recall a quarterback, maybe outside of Cam Newton, Superman,

but, like, a quarterback who kind of flips that switch and turns into another alter. Like, I don't, I can't recall. You don't recall this. Maybe he, maybe just beginning something new. What's that, AQ? What is he doing? Fucking demon time, dude.

He's a leader. That's his style. Yeah, would you rather have a guy whose quarterback flipped a switch, or would you rather just have the constant same guy consistent every day? As long as you're good, I think it's all it matters. You know, everybody does anything differently. But it is interesting that to the point that he made, I think Bruce also brought that up yesterday, B.A.

It was like, I don't know any quarterbacks that really have two different personalities because we kind of need them to be who they are all the time. and I think JJ was just saying like I just turned into a different person. I'm a competitor. I'm just a competitor, yeah. Like when it means the most, that's when I step up. People have certainly run with it and been like, nine's ass, dude.

Yeah. Okay, that is what we're seeing here. He certainly fed it. But once again, everything we know about J.J. McCarthy, forget nine. But J.J. McCarthy tells us that he'll get better every offseason. That is what allegedly we are being told and what we've heard from. Even in the Bears game, you know, he played like shit the entire game. And then when they needed him to, he drove

right down the field and they scored a touchdown and they took the lead. Maybe that's nine. Maybe like nine takes a little bit to get there. Maybe he needs to get rid of JJ McCarthy and just go 9 24-7, which would be a nightmare for everyone who knows him, but if he's good on Sundays

it's going to kind of make his life much better. Yeah, because maybe it is the transition from JJ to 9 that kind of takes a little bit three quarters, three and a half quarter. Yeah. J.J. is still out there saying, have fun. Come on, Jedda's gritty, dog. And then nines are really. walk in.

Yeah. And they're just kind of, oh, and then he throws it in the front row. Yeah. Because they're battling inside. Well, and that's the other thing. Like, do you really want, and I'm using this term very loosely, and this is a joke. You really want a schizophrenic at quarterback? I feel like you shouldn't have a guy that's two different people.

Well, you remember, Luke Kikley was quarterback of the Carolina Panthers defense. He was two different characters. I get that. Completely. Because you've got to be a fucking psycho to play linebacker. But he also showed up the first play of the game. He can't wait the fourth quarter To be that different quarter

That's not no, bro. Yeah, thank you. LeBron James locks in, too. Thank you so much. I love JJ. LeBron. Yes. Luke Keeckley?

Yeah. What's wrong? I like we're in this panthe. Why is everybody? Kobe Mamba. Yeah. Mamba mentality. Maybe he could do that.

Change his name to Mamba. Mamba McCarthy. Okay. See, it feels like we're trying to put him in a bad. No, I'm just trying to get nine to be who he is. at all times. That's probably dangerous. Or JJ.

Can JJ play football? We don't know. We know nine. Can nine lead? Can nine lead? It looks like it in crunch time, he leads pretty good. Yeah. I love that shit. Interesting character study. It really is. Was Justin Jefferson frustrated with JJ

or nine? Nine. He might hate them both. No. I've heard it's impossible to hate JJ. I've heard it's impossible to hate Jake. Have you heard that from Michigan men or? No, people are not Michigan men. Okay. A lot of people do hate them on the internet, but that's not fair.

And that's not real. I don't want to see another personality come out from Justice Jefferson because I think we may be nearing that. Yeah. I've seen that before. A C-18. I'll tell you what, 1-8 out there. Mm-hmm.

He could have already, we would all think. But on that note, whenever the team decided to go a different direction, he was one of the first people to come out and say like, hey, it doesn't matter who's a quarterback. It's my job to make their life easier. Like, I feel like he is the pillar of the Minnesota. He is the face of the Vikings. Yeah.

Justin Jefferson. Yeah, agree. So I think people are reading everything he does, but he's also a lot to be frustrated if the offense is asked. Absolutely. So, like, people automatically saying he has a bad attitude or he feels a certain way. It's like, I think he's just mad at their ass right now.

Like, I think that is natural from your leader you would want to see that. But it is interesting that the wide receiver is basically viewed as like the face of the offense. and not nine, but nine will have his time. Yeah. We hope so. I mean, look, Josh Dobbs came in in two days and he threw for more yards than JJ's thrown in any game this year.

Josh Dobbs is a fucking astronaut. There's no doubt, but he had two days with the entire team. Not to mention, I think Nick Mullins threw for 400 yards in this offense. He did. And I think Nick Mullins is a fucking junkyard dog. I don't want to make it seem like I don't think that. But come on. You're the 11th overall pick.

Bruce Brown just tried to say that maybe you need to take a trip down in the rainforest and get rid of one of those personalities and just fully embrace the other one. I love that. I think that's a bad idea. It might be the only way to go about it, especially with how torn it seems like he is. Like nine's telling him to throw it and JJ's saying don't and every throw is just not going where it's supposed to go. And then finally, whenever it's game winning time, it's just nine full time kicking JJ out of the kids all over the place. He needs to get JJ the fuck out of the first three quarters.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in KOC's office. Not when anyone's in there, just when KOC's alone. Just to understand what he is going through mentally. Because he had it all, man. He had two all-pro quarterbacks in his building last year. Legitimately, Donald is probably going to be first or second team all-pro in the NFC. And Danny Dodd is probably going to be first or second team all-pro, depending on how things turn out in the AFC. but nine next year old pro so they're betting on the future which is what they've done this

entire time that's true the pack in the bears they're going to fall off cliffs and the lions what am i yeah they're all going to fall off cliffs they're not building anything special whereas the vikings they're fucking stacking bricks bro it's true nine's going to have them i believe in kevin o'connell i believe that j j j mccarthy can get better just because we've seen it before but he is going to have to learn some stuff with this one here you know we saw it at the rose bull he threw about 120 mile an hour ball to somebody on the sideline

and we made mention of it in a numerous different way wow throws a fast one out there and then obviously what a strong arm he's showcasing on this entire thing it's like that ball doesn't need to be every time the way overshot

overthrows you can't have any overthrows in the NFL that's the problem yeah because that's going to get picked you keep that on the field like I keep saying they're landing in the stands it's good news they're landing in the stands Because if those things are on the field, that thing is going back the other way. It's like we've seen, obviously, Josh Allen and others get good in that particular department,

but that might be a difficult thing. And he's obviously, this is his first year as a starter. So obviously last year was his rookie year, he gets hurt, he misses the entirety of it. This year he's like a rookie, but he's not a rookie, he's not considered a rookie. He should be better. It's like this offseason, I think will be his first. They need it because they had it all, man. They had it all.

I don't think they're giving up this season yet. That's the problem. You're right. Oh, next year is going to be great. You're telling KOC that? You think he's okay with that right now? No, 1-8-8-8 either. I mean, he's, you know, Addison's making big-time.

Yeah, 3, 8-7, probably. Aaron Jones. 7-1, I can't even imagine how pissed he is. They had it all. They have it all. They have it all. We need more 9. That's what we're saying.

More 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. It doesn't seem like everybody's on board with more 9. I don't think we're on board with 9.

I thought I just I think we like JJ Yeah that's what I've talked about it Man That kind of sucks Maybe it is JJ Huh Because I thought we

Need a JJ the fuck out of there Yeah You're saying what we need is Now I'm thinking Well have we ever Have we ever seen JJ play QB Has it always been not We'll find out won't we

Mm-hmm The Bears run that division anyway So who cares Mm-hmm Yeah ain't they're right right now they do yeah go beat the packers twice and then then you can crown them age and the lions not just the packers the lions put up 50 on them really this year beat the fucking shit out of them but that was a different team yeah you're right

they're so bitter over there not not bitter they are so bitter they are so bitter the bears the bears might have the best old line in the nfc north the bears and the lions were supposed to be ass okay forever for eternal time that is kind of like the nfc North was supposed to be. Lions all of a sudden bring in this meathead and they become good. What the fuck? Then all of a sudden the Bears start figuring it out. All of a sudden, the NFC North is vastly different.

So it's like right now is not a good time to not be good in the NFC North because everybody is very good in the NFC North. So it's like what they had last year and the year before that and basically since KOC got there would be good to have that right now with how good the NFC North is. But they're going to have to be patient, I think, with the development of J.J. McCarthy. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but this is 1,000% of fireball offense for, you know, Quasi. Boom.

Aaron Rogers even wouldn't be a part of them. Bingo. Imagine Aaron, allegedly. He never told us anything. True. We are not going to say that he told us. We were never told this issue just kind of what was being talked about at the time. Imagine him KOC's offense.

That would be like the first time. Justin Jefferson would have 1,200 yards right now, instead of 185 like he has. And that's the other thing, too. if the whole thing was J.J. wasn't in there last year, then like, why wouldn't you bring in a vet quarterback or hold on to the one of the two

all-pro vet quarterbacks that you already have? Well, it's so easy to say it's not a week of lead. No doubt. No doubt. In the moment, we weren't saying that, were we? I don't want to be looking over his shoulder every three and out. That's the problem. We should have known when, I mean, Carson Wentz's shoulder was tied together by a

fucking piece of shoe string, and they were like, no, he's got to start. He's got to play. I was like three weeks in a row And then a game ends They're like Yeah, he actually needs an arm transplant That's how bad it was I would have done the same thing again

I'm just trying to lay it all in the line from my team And we all go It feels like your team should have needed Somebody else maybe at the time JJ was what Remember there was Oh yeah Yeah

It was against the linebackers were coming over And he's doing a sprawl drill And they were spiking Carl's head off the turf Yeah Fucking puking on the field Yeah. Quit being a pussy. Get back out there.

Let's go. That was crazy. So on that note, what we're saying is nine's going to have to, sorry, J.J. McCarthy is going to have to develop into not needing nine is what everybody thinks potentially to have success in the NFL. Is that a fair assessment, AJ? Yeah, that does seem to be. But I want to know what JJ stands for.

Maybe he could go, but was it Jeremiah? Maybe he'd go by that. Maybe that's his new alternative. Maybe it is Jeremiah, James. You know, that'd be good. Jebeda, maybe. We got a Jebidae. What if it's Justin James?

Now, we need, because then we would need Justin James. What if it's Justin Jefferson? That would be so sad. Jonathan James. Johnny James? John James. John James is a great name. John James on Sundays.

Here we need. Yep. John James. Jingle-in. He's called McCarthy, too. Whenever he goes out, he throw the ball. Real South. he'll get better.

He will. They were telling us they were going to be a better team with this guy. Yep, maybe not as many wins. And that's the championship. Yeah, what are Lovsky say again? Not just Dan. There's a lot of people telling us.

This team's going to be better with J.J. McCarthy's quarterback. Still have time. A lot of ball left. A lot of ball left on the top of the NFC North has. Let's get back to some good D with everything, DB, D, bud. A lot of ball left with this Denver Broncos team, too,

but they are dominating their division right now. Now, it's another question with Bo Nix, another sophomore quarterback who had a good rookie. year. A lot of room for improvement on an offensive side of the ball, but Vince Joseph has this defense rolling, leading the league in third downs, and also in sacks. And this is Joaquin who's been a dog for them, been a great slot defender, had two sacks and one interception of this game. This is the interception. Kind of a quarter's variation of coverage right here. It just turns to a scramble drill. We've seen 15. Patrick Mahomes do this a ton. I love that

reroute in the beginning. Love a good rerout in any zone coverage. And then once again, intentions, eyes back on the quarterback. You rarely see Mahomes make this type of mistake, but when he does, you make him pay, and then you just set your offense up in a good position. Unfortunately, it threw a flag, and we talked about it last week, maybe I think it was. We talked about as a defense blocking the quarterback and blocking the intended receiver. And they hit 15 pretty quick here. They called illegal blocking the back, I believe, on the return, but a great play by Jaquam

McMillan. Who has been a great player for the Denver Broncos for years now? in the slot. I love that the Denver Broncos' defense is always supposed to be good, and they're without. Yes. Right? And they're still showing up every single week on here.

Is that because of the entire system? And is he going to get a head coaching opportunity, do we think? I think so. I think he'll get another opportunity. Yeah, the system is definitely a part of it, but we mentioned it earlier. I forgot which coach you said, but players. If you have players that can come in there,

Raleigh Moss is a very good player. They kind of have that red dot on them right now as far as throwing a lot of flags. He is a physical. He's kind of a handsy guy. He's a white guy. You got Hufango back there. You got Brennan Jones.

That's why they're going. Hufango is a big pickup. I think Hufango is great. What are you saying? You're saying that he's a white guy. They're throwing a flag on him? No, I'm saying that's why he's got the red dye. His white guy sucks.

But he's very fat. You're saying milk check everywhere? Every single time he got out there. And unfortunately, yes, he does get flagged and he does get a little handsy out there. Well, they see it more. Yeah, exactly. Because it's moving. Exactly.

We assume. He's moving. He's a dog. They called back a pick six, I believe, on like an legal contact that gets him. Ridiculous. It was a very, very questionable call. It was a bullshit call, for sure. But he's been a dog.

It's a defense. A bunch of dogs up front, Nick Bedino, he could be a defensive player to your conversation. Jonathan Cooper, he's unbelievable. They got players all up and down this defense on every level. Speaking of great defense, what a battle between Seattle and L.A., it appears. Absolutely. Speaking of great players on every level, this Los Angeles Rams has the same thing with this Chris Shul lead defense.

Now, they had four interceptions this week, so all of the good D.E. could have been from the L.A. Rams, but this is one from Kobe Durant, and we had Pook on a couple days ago. He spoke about Kobe having this, Kobe Bryant, I'm sorry. Oh, this is Kobe Durant.

Yeah, so Kobe Durant outside, picking off the speed out, yeah, L.A. Rams, because Kobe Durant is on the Seattle Seahawk, so it's kind of a mind fuck here on this defense. But, Kobe Bryant is on the Seahawks. And it's a lot. And it's in L.A. It's a lot.

And it's black. Damn it. And it's black and yellow. I mean, there's a lot of Lakers. Number 14. Quarter. Kobe. Kobe.

Kobe. A dog. Pick it off. This speed out here against JSN. Unbelievable play. Great break. That's a very, very tough thing to do when you have your hips open towards the quarterback.

It's kind of like a zone turn. And then to put that foot in the ground and get back and make that play. But once again, it starts with the pressure up front. So if you look at Young with this stunt, they lead the national football league with the stunt. The left defensive end up to that left, hash right in the face boom so you try being that quarterback in that position you can't step into that joke i can't they block them make you well see what i would tell my guys is the minute you open your hips you're fucked see the right guard open his hips he's fucked can't get it you're beat

both ways yeah but what do we got to do we got a set and just let him come to us no you got to keep that outside hip up the field you win with the hip outside hip minute you open screwed that's what happened you got to be able to pass off use your fucking hands that's a good stunt though it's a good game that's a great execution if you go back to the wide copy this is quarters and I believe it's Rashid Shaheed in the slot. So if the pressure doesn't get there and the offensive line does pick it up, you get up on that safety

and court, pause it? Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. And that could be, that could be, he could be out of it. That's 22, a big player receiver, obviously, but when you don't have that protection up front and as a DB, when you know you have those dogs up front, you know, hey, I can sit on this with third and nine, let me play around the sticks, let me make

a play and take a chance. The entire purpose to that is to get the ball out right there, right? That's why they're running that stunt. So everybody is banking on this stunt getting home. Yes, and as a veteran, you're taught to play, you know, tendencies, but you're talking to play the sticks. So this third and nine, and this route is pretty much at the sticks. You pause it here, you see the first down marker up there,

so we're playing the sticks. As that safety, you're probably trying to play the sticks as well. So you're hoping young or verse or one of those dogs up front get home, because if it does it, it can be trouble back there. Great play. Rams are a good team. Kitchens had two of them. Darius Williams had one, so four interceptions on the day.

What is this? Is this good thing back there? Dallas Cowboys Wow On good D On good day That's Big D On good D

Swin that team's good day Yeah we're down in Big Day And yeah they got that good D Yeah deck is a good D But now we got some good D Down there in Big D Terry Jones loves that good day Huh?

Yeah so This is not a topic of conversation For the first 10 weeks It was not And it's very good for Kenneth Murray too Because they made the trade For Wilson to bring him over

And play some Mike linebacker and Kenneth Murray has been there, Mike lineback. When you think about the Las Vegas Raiders and their offense, you think about stopping one guy. They got one game record, and that's 89, Brock Bowers. I think the best, everybody's health. I think he's the best tight-in in the national football league. And right here, bite up on the play action, fake the gentie,

and then get back in his middle read and immediately look up the route, get a head around. Boom, we talk about tips and overthrows. Great awareness by Murray to get his head around, get his arm up, and then great job by Marquis Bell on the back end, take advantage. of the tip. I can't believe Dallas Cowboys are on a good D. Second.

They're on the Bad D Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. I mean, we're talking Bad D. Hall of Fame. First ever quad box in the history of Bad D. First one. First ever. And now we see why Jerry was grinning up there in the skybox. We talked about Quentin Williams.

He had a sack and a half. We talked about the other additions. You got hooker back healthy. You got overshone. Hopefully, you know, you can figure out the knee brace or, you know, get rid of it sooner than later. but a great job taking advantage of that tip of the other throans right now this is a ball game this is a 17 to 6 ball game you know inching towards that two minute drill the end of the first half so this is a big moment in the game kind of after this point it was all downhill for here maybe the Dallas Cowboys go on a run maybe maybe the Dallas Cowboys they got a good deed maybe they got they got good defenders they got and I know Fluce is taking a lot of shit but he has been a good defensive coach in the national football league for a while okay now it's crazy to think that a team all

than the Dallas Cowboys is going to be on Bad D, but I guess we have to showcase something. Yeah, we do. Honestly, to be fair, to be fair, to be completely fair, the San Francisco 49ers could have been on Bad D, too. They gave up an NFL record 47 completion of 400 million yards. Jacoby can absolutely spin it. But AQ actually showed this player and talked about this player earlier.

His Brock Pernie been in full control. You send Christian McCaffrey out there to get some intel, get some information. You're under center now. now it's like check check tech and then once you shift to this final formation pause it here so now because of you got 21 personnel on the field two running backs one tight end now you have very favorable matchups all over the field so you got George kiddle matched up on a linebacker here now and you have a cornerback out wide garden juice so you don't want a cornerback as a defense

I don't want my cornerback guard a fullback and you got a linebacker on a tight one of the best tight ends in the national football league you got another lineback on christian mcalfrey you got Buda Baker safety on Kedrick Bourne in the slot, which is another favorable matchup. I love Buda, but as far as man-to-man coverage, that's not what you want to be. Once again, cover three, basically man-to-man and you let it run here. Great job. Conman mentioned it earlier with Brock Purdy using his eyes to hold that middle of the field safety, and then you just make a great throw, but he didn't have a chance against George Guilla.

Christian McCaffrey had it as well. Obviously, it's an incredible throw, an incredible catch. Go back to the wide ear. Christian McCaffrey's got the same route to the other side, and I'll tell you, Is this second player or first play? What is this? This is the same play? Oh, yeah, remember he makes a change.

I forget that we broke this down earlier. We think he's Shipley on his takeaways. Chris McCaffrey has the same route the other way. Yeah. And he's gone. That's a touchdown. Oh, that's a nightmare for that long. You know, so much space, too.

That's awful. Hey, think about Brock Perdigo. Man, it's nice to be back here. Okay, we got Christian, or we're on Kittle. Yeah, let's get Kittle back in the fray a little bit here. Let's do that. That is a bad D over there in Arizona. Hey, Q, did you call in you this out?

why you were calling or you're doing biased home or bullshit on the call? No, I think they probably thought that I was a Niners fan

by the head of this because I was so pumped watching all the shifts and the motions and all the things that Shannon does. Obviously,

I've talked about that a lot over the year, so it's real easy for me to see. I was talking about it a lot. I felt bad.

Bidwell, the owner of the Cardinals, is this guy worked for us? Why is he so excited to call us getting our asses beat by this guy? Well, he really

likes their offense. Well, why aren't we doing that? We completed 47 passes to be fair, pretty good of the offense. For some reason, Cardinals. They just keep digging themselves too big a hole. It's two weeks in a row now.

I mean, they return the opening kickoff to the 1 and 7-0-13 seconds into the game. That's tough. And then you've got two fumble recoveries the week before for touchdowns. Just 21-0 before you can even blink. That's tough. And then you put this on tape, bad dude. Yeah, not as they live in kind of 21 personnel. They love that personnel.

But when you have Jews who can do all the different things he can do, you have Christian McCaffrey who can be a wide receiver or the best runnerback in the league. You got George Kittle, who's a wide receiver or another tackle in the run game. So you put the defense in a blender because you got to trot out bigger bodies. You got to try out of the base. You can't just go nickel unless you're Seattle. You have, you know, Nick, who's 2.30 and plays nickel. So when you put those bodies in, Tom Brady made this point about the Rams because they're doing it a lot in 13 personnel.

So it's the same thing. You've got to try base coverage out there. What Brady said is when you have base coverage on the field, there's only like three or four different variations of coverage you can run. When you get nickel and diamond all these different body types on the field, we can do all these different blitz and disguises, but that's not the case when you have all those big bodies on the field. So you simplify it matchup-wise for the offense.

You know what you're going to get, and you get these matchups where you have two players you can basically hit for a touchdown. And Brock's not going to miss. No. Most of these guys aren't. Yeah, I mean, we're not getting back in the conversation. Yeah, we're not getting back in the conversation.

But, yeah, Brock Purdy, obviously, is going to make the right decision. That is why Brock Purdy is Brock Purdy. And the fact that we even forgot about that, there for a little bit. We do apologize. Niners seemingly all the way back. Cardinals Bad D. Is there any other bad D that you found around a lady? One more. And it's tough to say bad D, but it is. And Joe Brady

just kind of put the bucks in a blender here because it looks like man-to-man coverage. You'll see the motion that'll give that indicator as well. But when you snap this ball and you look at James Cook and AJ, you can probably expect maybe two or three routes that he's going to run from here. The route that he runs, you're not

expecting this. From that position, I don't know if Levanti David had him or the defensive end had him. J.J. Watt was on the call. Anthony Nelson. What do you want him to do? He said Anthony Nelson had him. I don't know who was responsible for him, but that is a tough, tough route from the back field. You're not

anticipating that. And they do a great job for the receiver, just running off the corner. But that's a great job for Joe Brady. Was Mike supposed to get him here? No, so it's peel. I know this. They blitz Levante and then that end has a heel on the back, which typically is going out, but they see a gap.

You're hoping he's running a little bubble. Exactly. He's running a bubble. You don't expect him going down at all. What is this wheel? Then they were calling for him to do a wheel or just let go? Yeah, we were kind of called it's like a seam route almost. If you just imagine him as like a tight end and just running this route drawing it up,

it'll look like a seam or almost like a slot fade because you got the post and then like the fade behind it, then you got dark knocks coming around. Is there a chance that this is going to come and decide? Yeah, but when you run this blitz and you have a pill for that defensive end, And that's usually for one route like you're hoping for because you don't want Anthony Nelson guarding James Cook for any route outside of that bubble. And you just have leverage and you just kind of peel with them. And a lot of times if you pressure, you can kind of keep that back in the protection.

But this was a design for James Cook all the way. Do we think James Cook was supposed to run, yeah, he's supposed to go deep? Because he's running like side angle there. Does he see that guy maybe supposed to pick him up and decide to cut up? I think it's design. It looked like it's designed. Because he's running directly towards the side line. Now granted, that might be the cell.

that James Cook sprints towards the sideline here and they sees that guy fucking them out of here or do you think it was supposed to beat a flat? I think that was a route and it was kind of like the conversation we had yesterday maybe about how teams start against Todd Bowles' defense and it seems like they kind of heat up.

So AQ said, hey, I know what they're doing here. So Joe Brady probably knows, hey, if we get this look, if we get this situation, this part of the field, if we get this. Because Josh knows the video. Yeah, we got James Cook on a defensive.

Vin, I don't care who that. That could be Miles Garrett out. I don't care who that is. That's a favorable matchup. This has been a big trend offensively this year because I mean, Tyler Warren did it. L.A. Rams are doing it and they call it a C-Gap insert. Normally you run that stuff wide like AJ we were talking about earlier, but now they're sending

you through the C-Gap, which just changes just a little bit. Now you can run the wheel out of there. Now you put your guy on a blender because you get one-on-one on that back. And also traffic too, right? A lot of traffic, and now you can pick people off. There's a lot of things. So now they're sending them through on this C-Gap insert and then getting to the route. I love football. I mean, I would hate to be a buccaneer and Tony Nelson

right there, but boy, I love football. I love the brains. I love everything, TV. Thank you, man. Good, boy. Thank you. A.J., great work today, Bob. Thank you. In the back, waiting. Go ahead. Sorry, Nelson's got to look at the sidelines and say you guys absolutely screwed me on that one, coach. You got to make up for it sometime, some other time. This is tough. This is yours going to the sideline saying that's absolute ass. Behind a glass. Good work, boys. Good work, boys. Graphs on, boys.

Way to go over there. Yeah, boy. See you, baby, baby, go, boy. Good work, boys. You don't. Good work. All right, be a friend. Hey, Tone.

Tone, won't you come out of hammer? Time. Tad. I think he puts his pants back on the whole thing whenever he gets up from me? Oh, yeah. Just take his pants off when he gets in there? He's just to slide him back up. It's comfortable.

Yeah. Oh, you think he's just letting him. Just rub this turks all over the seat. Hey, what's up, man. They're saying crazy things about you. Good to see. Great work today. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life. We're in this thing together. What's that? Yeah, they were right. That's the type of culture and chemistry you can't think. Guys comfortable. You should see the splooge inside the top of his hat. Great work this week, Dibut.

You too, bro. Thank you. Great work. Safe travels, everybody. Team on meet. Anything you say, thank you? November football. Almost December football.

Hey, now's the time to find out who the most physical group is. Let's go. Hell yeah. Thank you. Team on three. two, three, ten.