The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1457 - NFL Week 12 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning, Broncos QB Bo Nix, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

On today's show, Pat is LIVE from Eugene, Oregon ahead of tomorrow’s College GameDay for the USC/Oregon game while AJ Hawk and the boys are back in Indianapolis as they recap last night’s Thursday... Night Football game as the Texans dominant defense gave the Bills and Josh Allen fits all night winning 23-19, plus they look ahead to the college football slate and make their picks against the spread for the entire NFL week 12 slate. Joining the show to chat about  their season thus far and this weekend’s massive tilt against USC is the Head Football Coach of the Oregon Ducks, Dan Lanning. Next, QB for the Denver Broncos, Bo Nix joins the show to chat about the Broncos success thus far, how much playing in college prepared him for the NFL, the bunker mentality in the building, how they haven’t accomplished anything yet, and developing with the other young players on the offense. Later, Stanford Steve joins the show to preview the college football weekend, and give out some of his best bets for NFL Sunday as well. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Pat McAfee Show. Feel Good Friday, November 21st. I'm AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat here in Indianapolis. Pat's and Eugene. Big game last night, boys. Football is what it is last night, huge game. Pat and Eugene, what's going on, buddy. What a game last night.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Hey, I'm all the way, Eugene, you know, staring at some new green, checking out the new scenes, changing up the routine. Life is good. Otson Stadium here. in 40-degree weather with a little bit of fog over the beautiful pines that are lined from one side of this state to the other. Oregon hosts USC and a CFP conversation game for the weekend. Cannot wait for that. Dan Lannning will be joining us here in about 25 minutes or so.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Game Day will be live 9 a.m. Eastern on ESPN on all platforms it's available. And also still live on X on our account and at ESPN's account. That's been quite a little tag team, a little tandem, a little duo that has been spectacular, maybe transforming what the future of sports media looks like. But nonetheless, massive weekend here in Oregon, it's far, but it is beautiful. The fog kind of covers up the beauty a little bit, you know, so you hop into a time capsule, you fly out here over Rockies. Look, that is so cool.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's just you know that there's majestic mountains under that pitch black out there. You know, and the more pitch black, you know, the more majestic it is because this is like where they helicopter in to go do their skiing stuff, part of the Rockies. You know, you're way out there. Then you're laying, it's like, hey, well, close to not being able to get down because the visibility's low. And then you think yourself, visibility's low, well, I'm not even going to get a chance to see beautiful Oregon. And then before we on live here, a lot of these trees not even visible. It was just a gray basic wall that kind of took place. That thing has moved out.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And now it has set the stage for a wonderful weekend here in Oregon, a wonderful weekend of ball. I can't wait for that. Now, to your point, AJ, last night, I'll tell you what, the AFC South, yeah, H. The AFC South is something to talk about. Now, I woke up yesterday morning, age, and it appeared very early from when you joined us that you had a differing opinion than I did. But I woke up yesterday morning with diner and a sauna, then, you know, face splash in a cold tub in the gym as well.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And Texans plus six just felt too obvious to me. It just was, why is my entire body? We're talking from my toes through my soul to my eyes and my hair. Everything in me was like Texans. Let's put everything we own on Texans plus six. It was a weird feeling, a weird intuition. So much, though, that I actually thought to myself, I maybe need this is too much. Then you hear the public money, 78% in the morning on the Buffalo Bills, minus six.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Then it ended up being 77%. It's like, what, 23% of the people are seeing the same way I'm seeing. That might be really good or really. bad. Good news for me, AJ. I'm seeing the fucking field. Hey, listen, the Texans did exactly what we thought they were going to do. The Texans defense, number one, in the entire NFL. Now, this is very similar to the situation that took place here in Oregon when Indiana came about three weeks ago, four weeks ago. I've been watching the Indiana Hoosers. I don't think a lot of people had been watching the Indiana Hoosiers. I knew that the Hoosers were very good at ball.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I don't know how many people are watching AFC South football whenever it's done on prime time. I don't know how many people are watching the Houston Texans are keeping up with the Houston Texans. Will Anderson, you see a sea on his chest, it's not just the fact that he's captain and he's like a guy that has been to come a pillar guy. But remember, they trade it up to go get him. DeNeil Hunter gets signed from the Minnesota Vikings
Starting point is 00:03:34 down there to Houston. D'Amico Ryans wanted his defense to be swarming in everywhere. That's how he wanted to build the culture. C.J. Stroud got a lot of pub, obviously, because his rookie career was so outstanding. But D'Neiko Ryans is a defense of savant. He's a beast. He's a dog.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And they got dogs all over. over the field. Josh Allen sacked eight times the most in his career. Obviously his record at NRG Stadium, which was a lot last night. Both myself and Coach McCarthy, and I think anybody that's ever played against the Houston Texans in a big game would complement
Starting point is 00:04:04 that environment. They were loud as hell last night. And I know Amazon Prime they're not really like big on like, let's turn up the crowd noise. That's kind of one of the things. I think we're learning that. I think we're learning that, right? I think that's what we're learning. Why is that? I don't understand. I don't understand. Why is that? I don't know, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:19 If it's not a big game, it makes it more of a big game feel. I feel like. I think crowd noise always needs to be. You need to ride that level all game. Keep it on. Yeah, they're a character, right? It's a part of the sport is like the environment. That's why home field advantage is a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I think we view it that way because we know how important it is. And I think Houston Texan's defense understand how important it is down there as well. And I'm not saying it's just because of the crowd down at energy, but you get that defense with that crowd in a prime time game. It's like that's going to be a weapon for sure. And Josh Allen has struggled against this. group. And obviously we put the record up there. In the regular season and in playoffs, you're talking about a 40.6 QBR. That's out of 100. That's the worst he has. 14 sacks in total,
Starting point is 00:04:59 eight of them last night. That's the most 17.8 points per game. I mean, it's like Josh Allen, the unstoppable object, has had problems in Houston. Houston has a solution. They do not have a problem, especially against the Buffalo Bills. And it's how great that defense is. And then Dougie Davis-Mills age, we told the story to Herbstree yesterday about why we have followed. Davis Mills, maybe closer than any other NFL show, and it's strictly because we disrespected this shit out of him as soon as we learned of his existence. D. Mills is playing all. Dougie had a great one.
Starting point is 00:05:29 His name's Davis, actually. Well, now they're calling him Money Mills, because what this dude is doing for Houston is winning games, and he completely understands the situation. He's been around a long time, okay? This guy understands he's a backup quarterback for C.J. Stroud, loves his role, appreciates his role, shows up in his role and wins games. I mean, this guy is spinning it all over the place. The Buffalo Bill's defense is going to continue to be questioned,
Starting point is 00:05:51 especially because Money Mills played against him, and not a lot of people have appreciation for Money Mills, even though I think everybody agreed on the internet that he maybe should be a starter somewhere. This guy needs to start maybe getting some looks. Couldn't imagine if a team was like shaped around them. Remember, we've done the backup quarterback conversation before. But AJ, it's like, I felt it yesterday morning. And maybe even, dare I say Wednesday night when I went to bed.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The Houston Texans, I think, are much better than what their record said they were, which was 500. And I think you're, if you have a defense, that's a championship defense, you can win any game, Hawker. Yeah, you can't, if you, Foxy, I don't know if we have that, this is a beautiful graphic right here, but I know Woody Marks added a lot to it. He, that dude runs hard, man. I don't know if, like, this graphic right here, though, those bottom three, turnovers, sacks, red zone. So, yeah, the bills have three turnovers, Texans, zero. Obviously, Dougie Mills taking care of the ball, eight sacks to none, like that's wild.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And then in the red zone, you know, the bills are 0 and 2, and the Texans score 50% of the time. I'm like, that right there tells you all the story you need to know. And Dougie Mills, he doesn't need to go out there and be Joe Montana in his prime. He just needs to take care of the ball, score when needed. Get a big touchdown going into half, I think, which was huge for this team. And they let your defense go out there and eat. Your defense gets eight sacks. Like, they were absolutely relentless.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It was really fun to watch this Texan's defense. AJ, like me, were you worried there at the end, though? When they pick up a fourth and 27, it's like, yep. And now, I didn't want to, you know, cart before horse. type situation. Hook and ladder here, fourth and 27. You would think that they would, you know, be ready for that. But, I mean, just perfect biting on the corner there that leads to a perfect setup. I mean, annexation of Puerto Rico, obviously great play in the history and the annals of football. The hook and ladder, one of the greatest plays in the history of football, because
Starting point is 00:07:35 it's basically a Hail Mary with a little close Sicilian involved. You know, let's go ahead and try to bait them, and it works to perfection. But I thought this was football gods and Josh Allen and Buffalo Bill saying, like, this has been cute, okay? This has been cute. My only deep shot, this guy, I don't know if he doesn't show up at team meetings or doesn't care that he doesn't show up at team meetings. I don't know what the hell is going on with Keon-Colman, but Josh Allen's looking around. I'm going to, like, what am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:08:00 We got no deep shot. We got a defense that knows we got to go short, okay? And we got a great defense that knows we've got to go short throughout the entire game. But in the end, MVPs are going to do MVP shit. That's what I was thinking here as we were kind of, I think we're over Rockies at this point, this was kind of happening. I'm like, oh, no, Texans are going to Texans this thing, I think. Texans are going to blow this. The Buffalo Bills may be going to Buffalo Bills this. And instead, they still get a stop. There's like so many times that the Houston Texans answered.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You talked about right before half. Houston Texans answer right there. Fourth and 27 football God's saying, you probably loses Texans answer here with a pick. It's like, I'm proud and I'm not a, obviously, the Colts run the AOC South. So it's not. Okay. But, like, Damiko Ryan's team, the resiliency, the mental toughness, the fortitude, the talent. It's like, they don't get talked about a lot down there, but they're good, they're a good football team. They are a good football team. So whenever you talk about the AOC South, you've got Jacksonville Jaguars. They're back, right?
Starting point is 00:09:00 They got question, I guess, at quarterback still, but it feels like that's always going to be for Trevor Lawrence. He was the highest, like, what is the points? I don't know. Where would it be? Graded? A.B.R? One of those things? Yeah, but is it the 151? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But he was the high. This guy's supposed to be the guy. So he's always going to be judged until he wins, especially with some of the shit that we've seen. But it's like Jacksonville Jaguar is a much better spot. Houston, Texan's a very good football team. And then the Indianapolis coach is the best team of football. So the AFC South might be the new powerhouse.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I don't know if anybody wants to talk about it. And the Buffalo Bills just happened to fall victim to that last night. And the Buffalo Bills have to figure a lot of shit out, I think, age. I think they've got to figure a lot of short. it out. I think that is something that the Buffalo Billers are going to have to do. I mean, they were under attack by this Houston, Texan's defense. I love how they run to the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Like, the amount of pressure, like, yeah, eight sacks is a gigantic number, but Josh Allen, like, he never really felt like he'd get comfortable in the pocket. He's thrown off his back foot. He's doing this all game long. No matter what, like I was talking to Connor before he came on air. There was a second or third down there shown, and they show Will Anderson and Hunter walking
Starting point is 00:10:03 on the field together, and they both were like, it looked like two Terminators coming out to kill people. They looked so, like awesome and intimidating and thinking like all three levels i just love this defense on us i know matt burke the defensive coordinator there he's a great coach as well but when you play defense like this look how much fun they're all having like everybody on the defense is having fun the 15 16 guys all that rotate in and get to play in this defense they're just itching to get in they can't wait to get off that sideline and go make a play and it seems like whoever they put in there
Starting point is 00:10:32 they're going to go after the quarterback and that's that's where it all starts man if you get penetration good luck for that for opposing offenses Great culture, it feels like, great culture on the defensive side. And it feels like, you know, just strictly because the offense isn't great, they don't get talked about. Number one defense in the league. And AJ, you'd be able to speak to this more than me, obviously. I just had a chance to witness it from the sideline. But whenever you got two dudes, two dudes, okay, if you got two dudes, obviously that changes the math for the chips
Starting point is 00:11:01 and who has to be where and who do you double, you can't double everybody that should open up for everybody else. when you got two dudes, I watched Dwight Frini and Robert Mathis. Both of them, Dwight Frini in the Hall of Fame, Robert Mathis will end up in a Hall of Fame because Strip, Sack record, all the different stuff that he has. He'll end up being a Hall of Famer. I got to watch them for like four years, five years. It was awesome. It was a plan.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It was a roster plan, strategy. Hey, listen, Peyton and the boys are going to get a lead, and then we're going to let these dudes just wreck the game, basically. We're just going to let them take it over. They're going to have to drop back and pass at some point, and we're going to get them. They're going to close. I mean, it's a special strategy if you have special dudes, and they certainly do. Casario has certainly figured it out.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Last three games, 11 and a half sacks out of these two. That's problematic for everybody. Yeah, that's problematic for everybody. If you can wreck a game on both sides of the offensive line, yeah, you can beat anybody. And eight sacks last night for Josh Allen. I know he's thinking to himself, like, what hell that? They still almost won that game. So the bill's great football team, Houston Texan's great football team.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Let's go to one half of the hammer. Dumpie's muted, he yelled. I would like to everybody know. We picked it up. That's a sick clock. Oh, sweet. Oh, sweet. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It is a sick clock. A guy named Shane made that for us because underneath that thing is a, is just an outlet, basically. And then if you go this way, just a little bit. Oh, he's dancing. He's dead. You see him? Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You see who's there? You see who's right there. You see who's in the back living that sweet life? Is that Mr. Foss? Yeah, they fought full. There is. Bostas living the sweet life and the president's suite up here. We're in a great spot.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But Gumpy Hammer. God. Now that, now, now, they're down. Okay, Cowboy, AP, Tone. Tone, what ended up being the numbers? Who all won? And what, what, there wasn't, oh, I didn't see a lot of people celebrating massive hits last night.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Go ahead, Tone. You talked about it being during the show that 77, 78% were on the bills. It closed 73% on the bill. So a little bit more came in on the Texans later before kickoff, but not too much. This was another loss for the public. And then the under hit as well, obviously, because only two field goals in the second half. It looked like it was going to fly over in the second or in the first half, which was super surprising, a very low scoring KG affair in the second half.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So the under also hit there as well. and we are off to another hot start this week for the books. Yeah, we are off to a hot start. I want to let you know. I'm feeling real good. As I was watching that game unfold, I'm like, hold on now, age. Hold on. Hey, not good for the sports books if I'm starting to just get these intuitions that are on top of it.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So I want to let everybody know I thought I was going to carry over maybe. I looked at this weekend slate. Didn't have any of those fields. I don't know. you know, other than the Colts, it feels like yesterday was just a one-time thing. I thought maybe this was going to be for the rest of the season. I thought I was going to wake up this morning. I was going to look at that book
Starting point is 00:14:09 and I was going to be like, oh, talk to me, football God. What is the next one? You know, like, I was starting to get very, very comfortable with myself as the fog continues to kind of bellowing him. My God. Eugene, Oregon. Now, that is, I could scare some people.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I could freak some people out But whenever you see this type of stuff around here That means one thing and one thing alone It's football season It's 39 degrees Can't see shit But Otson Stadium is going to be electrifying Tomorrow
Starting point is 00:14:46 Okay so sports walks anyways I thought I was going to have it age I thought I was going to have it this morning I thought I was going to be able to look at sports book And kind of do my thing I thought I was going to have feeling for every single game The only one I know is the Colts going into the Chief's Kingdom. Everything else, I think we've got a pretty good question mark next to.
Starting point is 00:15:01 We'll obviously make a pick for all these games by the end of today. Have a pack show today. We're going to have Coach Landing from Oregon, obviously, on here in about 15 minutes or so. Bo Nix will join us, quarterback for the Denver Broncos. He's doing some amazing thing. Former quarterback here, obviously, for the Oregon Ducks. Coach Saban will join us if he can land. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I was going to say that Marine layer is thick. That's good. Hey, that's good scientific lingo right there. Jay Nardo would be pumped with what you just did. And rest in peace to him, obviously. But yeah, it is, I think that's going to be things. So we will monitor if coach, I guess we'll be able to tell from it right here. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:15:38 If we could see some trees in the next hour or so, Coach Saban will be on show. If, uh, because I think he's potentially circling up there, circle. Oh, no. If you got Starlink, we could talk to him now. That would be very entertaining. Do you see his playing? He doesn't. We've talked about that.
Starting point is 00:15:54 We've talked about that. He needs to get on that ASAP. Okay, so let's get to last night's game, though. A couple things that we wanted to point out that we thought were cool and special. I'll tell you what, that umpire stepping in to be the white cap after white cap tears whatever, Achilles, injury, A-C-M-A-M-Bee, whatever the injury is. And I appreciate that he wouldn't get carded off. He said, let me go.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Let me walk off this field like others have in the past. And we will obviously wish him, Godspeed on his, do not bring that card out here. Nope. This white cap, these stripes cannot be seen getting carted off the field. For the ones that have come before me, saved a cart for when I get off the field. In between these lines, I've got to drag my body and caucus for the good of the game. Wait until I get it. Roy Ellison, though, this man, I think Shannon Sharp said he's former teammate days back in the day, obviously.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So he's a former player. Obviously, he had to pick up like six different jobs. Obviously, he's the hump. Then he's the white cap. Then at one point, the play clock stopped working. So he had to say, all right, I will keep the play clock. And he has to scream that, basically, two people, as it's kind of happening. So last night, MVP, in my eyes, the Houston Texan defense.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The second MVP, Tommy Townsend. Well, absolutely perfect point. Third MVP, Doggy Davis Mills. Fourth one, Domeco Ryan's that energy, that crowd. Fifth one, this guy. I think he needs a white cap immediately, too. By the way, he has the moxie to do it. he felt like he was very confident
Starting point is 00:17:23 the boys respected the hell out of him he's umed so he's already in there it's like I think we're looking at a I think we need Roy Ellison to put on the white cat page I think he needs to be elevated is that not what you took away from last night as well it's exactly what I took away and look at him like the moment was not too big when you get called upon when it's
Starting point is 00:17:40 your opportunity like you're a backup QB whatever it is make sure the moment's never too big for you look at him he came out with so much confidence like he knows exactly what he's doing we feel like we're in good hands whether he makes good calls or not Well, it's, okay, we need them to make good calls. Of course. Ideally, yes, you would love that.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And it felt like he didn't, you know, they didn't mess up anything too bad after he became it. But you're talking about having to juggle a bunch of plates whenever you don't really know that it's going to happen. I mean, who thinks the head ref is going to blow their, like just, I don't know if that's what happened. Has that been reported? It has, we know. I thought it was awesome, though, that he was the only white hat. He had the only white hat on the crew. He had to take off the white hat and pass it down.
Starting point is 00:18:20 to him. I mean, that's how it works. Yeah, it's a captain van. Yeah, just like, I mean, what if, think how sweaty that thing probably was. You want to throw that, that hat on that? Yeah, you have to. You have to. You have to. You have to the internet was super impressed. They would never let that happen during COVID.
Starting point is 00:18:36 We know that. Ellison got zero reps last week as a white cap. So, like, for him to come in and do that, like, oh, geez. You're telling me he got no reps as a white cap. No, none. Good for him. None. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He didn't watch film as a white cap. That guy that. tour his Achilles is a white cap. That guy's been reffered for, what, a hundred years? I've seen that guy for so long. So him taking his hat off and saying Jerk out now. That's a big moment in football. Huge.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They should have made a bigger deal on the broadcast, actually. AJ, you're disgusting, honestly. No, the tradition of football. Unfortunately, Roy had to wear this sweaty hat that old buddy was wearing, tease and peas, man, with this Achilles. Adrian Hill is his name. Adrian Hill, I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm sorry about your Achilles, but I guess, yeah, look at him here we go it's your hat now yes bingo which is part football and i'm happy we got to see that and we would like to let roy know hey we hope you earn your own white cap i hope you will get to the point where you get to take that white cap just like they do for the cfp committee how they put those white hats on that shit i hope roy gets a chance at some point to take that white cap off at his home and put that thing up there because he has certainly earned it also another shout out last night i think needs to be talked about uh there might be a new horse in the best mascot in the NFL race.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I don't think we've given much. Obviously, we talk about Jack's Him, Daville, down there in Jacksonville. He's a dog. This guy's a stud. He shows up in his speedo, yeah. Humans, human speedo, actual cheeks out with the rest of the first. And he'll jump off the sky.
Starting point is 00:20:10 We jacks him, DeVille, through the Jaguars down times. He's been holding it down for Duval for a long time. Blue, obviously, with the Colts, sensational talent. Cream pies, everybody. Yeah, everybody. Also, great athlete. Great athlete throws football from the upper deck into a garbage can every single home game.
Starting point is 00:20:28 He's a weapon as well. Toro down there in Houston, this guy's good. I don't know if you saw what he did to a Bill's fan. Let's go ahead and measure these dims, please, see if you're up for the task. Okay, obviously, it's an NFL mascot. We appreciate this. However, I've ever heard of here, and what's happening?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Oh, it's pretty good. Yeah, 100% of chance I do that this weekend. Yeah, that's good. right there out of Toro. I like the fact that they kind of let that fly. And also shout to the Bill's fan. Yeah, you go, boom. Okay, how's that going? And then I don't know if you saw this. This guy came in from McLeod's. This guy came in from McLeod's. Go ahead and film himself, confident, casual, coming in from the top of NRG Stadium, the artist formerly known as Reliance Stadium, the artist known as a Lod House down there, not the Lodd House, but a Lodd House.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Texans Toro is doing pretty good. Saw him also have a great sign. You know, some Bill's fan came down there with Bill's Mafia. He said, how about Mills Mafia? I mean, he was on it. Hey, Toro had a big night last night. Very clever primetime game out of Toro would like him to be in the ranks. Conman, I just think it needed to be said that Toro might be bringing his fastball a little bit better than everybody else. Yeah, a whole entire team, really. I mean, I don't know. They're hitting their stride right at the right time. I mean, you're talking about the team as a whole being great. That's awesome. But when you have the guy getting the crowd hyped. I think you can't not
Starting point is 00:21:46 kind of entertain the thought that without Toro, that crowd isn't as pumped. NRG Stadium isn't as rock and that defense doesn't play as well. I mean, look at this. You do not get this at every single stadium. I agree. You know, Duval, Jackson DeVille, whatever. His butt cheeks being out, that's
Starting point is 00:22:02 not everybody's cup of tea. And you can even go to Blue and say, hey, Blue is fantastic, but there ain't no Air Toro. Okay, there's one Toro. Toro brings the heat every single time. And there's nothing like sneaking a nutshot against That's the guy who's tailgating at your place, trying to bring the vibe, trying to crush tables. No, we're going to crush your nuts, brother.
Starting point is 00:22:19 You're going to try and crush tables. We'll bring it right back. Don't even think about coming into energy with that type of stadium. I've never seen that before with the whole tape measure. I thought that was brilliant, also brilliant. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Leading. You're all good? That's quite the move.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I'm going to pull that out. Not bad, right? That's a good trick. That does feel like a duck-type move. Definitely the duck would do that. is a good mascot. You guys have a great mask gun. We got the best. We got the best. Ah, Toro came down from the sky. You get this duck flying off the top of this thing? You never know, man. You never know.
Starting point is 00:22:53 We're pitching new ideas. You never know. Okay, let's talk about the fog. Let's talk about the setting. This is perfect. I assume for you. Yeah, man. How awesome is this? Amazing. We got late November, mid-November football here. USC coming to town. Everything on the line. What is the mindset for you and your team? Go play football, man. Let's go have some fun. I mean, you're blessed to get to do what we get to do. This is what you're excited for. Top 20 matchup right here. Everybody's paying attention.
Starting point is 00:23:16 It's time to go execute. Okay. Last time we were here, obviously. Okay. We know how it went. Not hot. No, it's time to get back to work. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't like that happened. I love how it hurts you like when you're like, I picked the other team and it didn't, you know. It does. But I just knew at that stage of where teams were. Yeah. I live in Indianapolis, so I see this team. Like, I saw what that team was.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You didn't give me any heads up. up. You didn't want to give me any heads up. Hey, Fernando's really good, dude. You need to know this. But I thought that team had come along very quickly. I thought like they developed and matured as a team early in the season. And I think not a lot of people knew that. So that's why at that time against you guys, I thought that your team from them till now is seemingly. We're growing, man. Did you like the loss? Oh, I never like losses. That's that that's BS. But do I think we grew from the loss? Absolutely. You know, we've improved since then. You know, they're a really good team. There's no doubt about that, but we're not the same team either, and I'm sure they're not.
Starting point is 00:24:15 But we're not playing them. We're playing SC, so it's time to get ready for those boys. Okay, so what do you see from them? Obviously, Lincoln Riley always going to have a great offense. Yeah, they do an unbelievable job on offense. They're really balanced when it comes to being able to run the ball and throw the ball. You get to see him play a gritty game against Iowa last week where they bang heads a little bit, and then obviously the Lemon came out in the second half and was dominant. So they've got great wide outs. They do a good job changing the picture on defense. So it's a great challenge for us. AJ has a question for you back in Big Ten Country, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Hey, Jay, hit me. Good to see you, Coach. I was going to ask something about your team and learning about what your players do best. We can get to that. But first off, are you left-handed? When you took your shirt off on Game Day with Pat, you saved a little woo-in to the crowd. You're not left-handed. Okay, well, I had to ask.
Starting point is 00:24:58 No, no, no. No, but when I'm taking my clothes off, I'm amadextrous. But normally, just right-handed. No, so at the end here, you take your under-shirt off. By the way, thank you for doing this. And the amount of pain, your bride's tattoo. Tells you how much I love her, huh? Yes, I think none of us were expecting that much on that part of your body.
Starting point is 00:25:18 That hurts. So you, dominant hand. Dominant right. Dominant hand took the shirt off. Right, but decloving amidextrous. You're saying you could have gone left you there. Yeah, I'm talented with my clothes off. We saw that.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I thought you were as well. But you take that off, and then you felt in a moment you had to do the left-handed, because that's what AJ saw. I don't know a lot about that moment right there. I mean, it didn't work. I'm not, tomorrow I'm not going to be taking my clothes off. I don't think it was the moment. The moment worked.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Did you hear the crowd? The crowd was great. But I do have a little superstition. It's like, okay, tried that. Didn't work, you know. So I'll probably, you know, just before we get to that part tomorrow, you were already. Take your pants off. You can't take your pants off on life.
Starting point is 00:26:00 That's the thought. Maybe I didn't take enough off. What tattoos does he have, Donah? I mean, we're about a lot of love. I've got some hidden tats, man. Both quads, elephant trunk. I don't know especially with
Starting point is 00:26:14 okay what would you say characterize like the I don't know how do I say this like if we were to describe your football team yeah I think with you at the coach we'd always say
Starting point is 00:26:24 like the defense is going to hunt there's going to be dogs everywhere great is that how you would describe this team like how do you think this team is taking shape and what is kind of their story if you will our identity I mean I hope people watch us and they say they're relentless right in all phases right we're a team
Starting point is 00:26:39 that plays for each other I hope you see love connection. Like, that's something we want to see show up. And then, you know, the kind of team that wants to drag you to deep water and choke you out. So, you know, that's, that's the thought process behind us. Okay. I like that. And going in deep waters where I don't want to be, especially with people that hail from this particular part of the world. It is beautiful out here. Unbelievable. Okay? I will say that. Yeah. The only reason I come out here is because you, man. I appreciate you. Yeah, the Oregon Tourism board. I think we all only come out here because of you. And we're in your team.
Starting point is 00:27:10 The ducks, man. Yeah, for the ducks. That's amazing. Getting out here is beautiful. Right now we can't see it because of the fog. But whenever you get people... It's going to break before the show's done. You're going to see...
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's going to get better. We saw it earlier. It came. Oh, it's coming out. Yeah, yeah. So it's actually kind of cool. Yeah, yeah. Selling this place, I think, is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Getting people here, obviously, is a part of it. Then once they get here, selling it. Oregon, obviously, everybody knows the Nike background and the history in sports, the investment in sports. But it's also like, it's different with how beautiful the place. You're in a postcard. How much of that kind of works to your back. benefit? And what are kind of the selling points of Oregon?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Well, you said it. I mean, ultimately for me, it's about picking best, not most convenient. And this place offers something that doesn't exist anywhere else in sports. And yeah, it's the hour and a half from the coast. It's an hour from the mountains. It's a place to go and become the best version of yourself without distractions, right? We're not in the middle of the big city. You drive to works the same day, same every single day. You're not going to beat court side at a Lakers game or at a young Jeezy concert every night. You're going to be focused on football, becoming a great student, becoming a great player. And I think that's what this place sells.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You want to go somewhere where you're not going to have the distractions. You're going to have the opportunity to grow, build unbelievable connections with people all over the world. This is that place. Yeah, there's great connections, obviously, here. And you've certainly proved that you can take guys and put them into the next level and have a lot of success. Your resume, quickly. How old are you? 39.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Age and quick. Jesus Christ. This, my wife was making fun of my beard last night. See, I'm all gray showing up? Is that the secret? Is that what you're doing? It's all gray? Yeah, I'm 38.
Starting point is 00:28:39 If I shave, my face would look super fat. No, no, it wouldn't. We're very similar. Science of what? You know what science I'm talking about? Oh, no, no, I'm not doing that science. It'll give you a jaw line. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah, look at this thing. I've never had one either. I'm Irish. Thank you. Yeah, I'm Irish. This thing comes right here. Grab a little science. Thank you, 2025.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Thank you to all these people. All of a sudden, we're shaving our face, you know what I mean? You have a good jawline in there. Strong jaw line. Yeah, I got a good job. Football season, though. I don't know if you need to be taking any science.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You got a law of boys to live. No, no science for me, man. Yeah, Coach, I also have some grayes and look like shit when I shave my face, so I feel you there. You are rushing for double-edged sword, man. What do we do? That wasn't even intentional. That wasn't even intentional. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Coach, you're rushing for like 2.35 a game, I believe, in your second in the nation in yards per carry. When you started this season, did you envision that's how your team would be built going through the run? And then also I wanted to ask you about the buy week, because you came out out of the by week a little banged up. Did you guys just beat the shit out of each other during the bi-week? Great question. We want to be a team that can beat you multiple ways, right? We want to be a team that can beat you on the ground and beat you in the air. You have a lot of different strengths.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I think high school coaches are the best in the world. It's saying, okay, what do you have available and how do you use it? We want to be that team, and we can beat you with running. We can beat you with, you know, in the air attack. You know, and ultimately, I think you have to fit off the skill set of your players. I don't think anybody in the nation right now uses more running backs than we do, tight-ins than we do, personnel groups. So we have a lot of variety, and I think that makes us really hard to defend.
Starting point is 00:30:12 As far as beating each other up, we're physical. It's a game that requires physicality. What's weird about some of the injuries we've had, and a lot of them have been non-contacts. So, you know, it is what it is. That's the sport of football. But strength of numbers has shown up for us. And we always say, Next Man Up, got to be ready to roll, and we've had some guys do a great job stepping up.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Next Man Up is obviously a mantra that a lot of football teams carry because there is going to be injuries regardless. Your mantra's week-to-week, though, are pretty legendary. Yeah. Do you, will we learn? Post-game, maybe. Is this one sweet? No, that's nothing special, man.
Starting point is 00:30:48 What? Look, it's got to be! Motivation's overrated. No, I think you're great at it. I think you're one of the best motivators. I think that is like one of the separators for you as a human, don't you think? I think our players is the separator for me. What they go out there and they do on the field, yeah, I want to light the fire, spark it a little bit for him.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But, you know, that wears off. you've got to go out and execute, and our guys have done an unbelievable job of executing. Certainly, we have a message this week, and it's going to be fun to see it all play out. It's fun to watch your leadership style. Actually, Ty has a question for you about that. What's up, Ty? Coach, first and foremost, I don't know if you've had the opportunity yet, but if you want to thank that jackass Kirk Herb Street for really blowing up the Iowa-Oregon game. I sent an apology to Pat him out. I knew, Ty, that would bother you.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Can you at least give me a little Lou Holt's question here before it's all said about this? Yes, I can't. Listen, Coach, I don't think I've ever seen anyone do this, but during that Iowa game, you know, you're getting pissed on in the rain, and you've got, you know, a cotton sweatshirt, or not. I'm thinking, Jesus Christ, is this guy a psychopath? But I am curious, when did you kind of adopt that mantra and say, hey, you know what, fuck the rain gear. I don't need that garbage. I'm going to be in the same stuff that my boys are in because I want to show them, hey, listen, I'm in the fight with you guys. like to say though. So I'm just just curious whether you start doing that, but also coach is getting late in the season, it's getting cold. I can't have you getting pneumonia and missing a goddamn game. So maybe just think about that. But I am curious about when that tactic started because I love it. I wish I would have been doing that in South Bend 20 years ago. Coach, coach, thank you. It's an honor to get a question from you. Yeah, I don't know. I've always kind of been that way. You know, you might.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Catch me in practice, rip a top off, just so these guys can know, hey, look, it's not bad. Let's go play ball. So that's kind of always been my mindset. You know, I came in the locker room at the Iowa game, and there was like this little contraption that was supposed to be like a heat warmer or something. It's like, what's this? A microphone? You guys at the locker room, you know, mic up? They're like, no, no, no, coach, you could wear that in your gear.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I was like, hey, man, mama didn't raise no bitch. I'm not wearing that. So, yeah, we don't put it. I don't know. It's just like as close as I can get to it. you know, and not be in the action with these guys. Yeah, being in the fight, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You know, like, that's a thing. And also, maybe at some point I'm like, ooh, guys, it's too bad. Lou Holt's age, I think you should. Yeah, yeah, but at that point, I'm sure I'll start putting a jacket on at some point. How about Lou Holtz, though, just finding some real inspiration almost from you? He said, he's one of the goats. He said, if he could go back, he would take from you. Is that what he said, Ty?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Is that what he said? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I was wearing the bunny ears over by, you know, I had the, making sure, I tell you what, one thing Coach Lew doesn't want to be on the sideline is cold. That's when, you know, he starts being a mean cuss. He may be, you know, taking some players off the field, you know, start getting a little distracted.
Starting point is 00:33:45 But, you know, Coach Lou ain't a hard ass like Dan Lannock. That's maybe something he could adopt if he could go back. Hey, coach, what do you think of Dan Lannock if you had to give a, like a descriptor on what type of coach he is from the outside looking in? Mean cuss. I'd say he's the cut, you know, I had the thing with Jimmy Johnson back in the and said, forget the damn football game. I'll be sitting the parking lot, and I'll beat the shit out of you myself.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be saying that to Dan Lailing if I was getting ready to play an Oregon Ducks football team, because that dumb bitch would knock me out real quick. That's right, coach. That's right, coach. I think you'd be able to hold your own maybe to your younger age because you are Lou Holtz, but you're right. Madman.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And this tattoo says he's willing to just sit in the fight. That's like, AJ, that's the worst. The most painful spot, right? It's got to be the most painful spot. And yours just goes from, like, arm pit to. waste. Yeah, it's a funny story. You know, they asked you, you want the cream. I'm like, no, I don't want no cream. They started kind of in the bottom, and that's where my wife's tattas are. And I was about to walk out there with just a set of, hey, I can't be. I just want to have two
Starting point is 00:34:48 on my side and I'm going out of this bad boy, but, you know, some of the cream, yeah, six hours later, it was worth it, man. She didn't know how I was doing it. So when I walked in, she was kind of pissed off, but, you know, she's got her claim. Yeah, she's got her claim. You know, it's like, She staked her territory. Absolutely. But that commitment out of you, that is very painful. But let's get back to Ball, shall we? AJ has a question for you about your team.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Coach, you were talking about, actually, I wanted to pivot quick to the motivation situation. Who motivates you? Who do you look for? Is there anyone you talk to that gets you juice? I'm sure every game you always want to have a plan and what you're going to do, how you're going to approach it. But who motivates you? I mean, just the opportunity more than anything. It's not necessarily a person, you know, your kids, right?
Starting point is 00:35:31 the players that you coach for, just the chance to get up and get to do what I do every day. I think I'm really lucky. Anybody that gets to be in this profession, yes, there's some headaches that exist. But to get to do what we do, if you don't take advantage of that and recognize that opportunity, I never want to waste it. So, yeah, pretty self-motivated, I guess I'd say, in that area. How long you've been coached? I remember the story goes, you drove to pit, I think, right, from Arizona to get your first gimmick.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And then how long has it been now? Since 2008. I coached high school football first. been in college since 2011. Okay, so the business of football, obviously you don't have NFL experience or anything like that, but now you are in the epicenter of the business of college football, the change of college football.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Your name, also, we would like to say, isn't even really getting brought up at places. Shouldn't. I think that's sick. We actually pointed that out. I think that is not being talked about at all. Your name is not being mentioned for any of these jobs because of how open you've said the grass is damn green here,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but also business-wise, you have to deal with a lot, I think, right? Everybody talks about that, but managing all of it. How have you kind of evolved in that world and how hands-on are you in that world? Yeah, that's certainly involved. I think as a head coach, you want to be involved in every part of your program. Lucky to have some great people around them that support me and allow us to be able to do what we do. And then also some people that I trust within our program that can attack, you know, and ultimately you want to maintain the focus.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Every piece matters. It's not one thing in your program that matters. But if you can be involved in all of it and hire people you trust, you're going to have success. All right. Connor has a question for you about this weekend. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, coach, real quick, back on the mascot. The Oregon duck isn't really up there just because he's all politics.
Starting point is 00:37:04 If you can pull up the DoorDash ad, the Oregon Duck actually forced his way onto the DoorDash L-Rap. He's all politics. You can see his little right arm there holding a piece of pizza. So don't ever even think about throwing him in the same category as Jackson DeVille, you know, Toro and Blue. Let's forget about that for a second here. Because he's making money with a pizza ad? What's the problem? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That's what everyone says that or. What's going on? That's what Eleanor said about Oregon. Hey, we need the mascot to bring in money. Phil Knight and everybody else aren't writing enough blank checks. But let's forget about that. You're his favorite team. I can tell.
Starting point is 00:37:37 This is something on. What's your problem? Look, I consider myself a mascot aficionado, so I want to keep it real. Don't even get me started on the Atlanta Braves blooper. That guy talks way too much. Stick to the gimmick. The duck is great, though. All politics.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Way too much from the duck. He's doing too much. You're only been talking about the players. The duck's all about himself. It's ridiculous, but again, hey, that's your camp. You can get your camp in order if you want to. Connor, the head fell off. The duck lost its head.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Bingo, yeah, exactly. It's on a bend right now. You can't be showing your face everywhere, acting like you're the talk of the town, and then running out and having your head fall off. That is ridiculous. That is Bush League. That is the exact reason why the duck isn't in the NFL. There is a difference.
Starting point is 00:38:21 There's a difference in the football, not just the mascots. But let's talk about Oregon USC. Let's forget about the duck. Okay. I feel like, for people right now, I don't think Oregon USC strikes them as like a rivalry. You guys have been at the top of college football for a long time, and USC has had their ups and downs. Can you just talk about that rivalry and kind of what it means to Eugene with USC coming to town? Because I, for one, game day going there a second time, I'm worried about the, you know, the juice of the entire thing, game day, the stadium, everything like that.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But can you talk about how fired up these people are to kind of go in there to, you know, on their ducts against a real rival USC? Yeah, we got unbelievable fans. They're going to bring on the juice. And it's kind of neat. As the Pac-12 broke up, the fact that a lot of us moved into the Big Ten, it really kept a lot of those things alive. A lot of things that exist about, you know, West Coast teams getting the opportunity
Starting point is 00:39:16 to compete in this great conference, and this is certainly one of those games, right, getting to play against USC. But our fans will bring it. I'm not worried about that. They got juice. They always do. You doubt it? Nope.
Starting point is 00:39:29 You'll see him. Why'd you pause? You know, they'll bring the juice. Every time I come out here for one of these shows, game day, I am blown away by your fans. They're awesome, man. Dude, legit. It's so early in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So loud. We're nocturnal, man. It feels like you kind of, and then there's a toga thing happening because Animal Housewap, it's a special family. We were just here, though, like three weeks ago. It felt like, and it's special. Obviously, everybody's excited to be there. Speaking of being here, ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback for the Denver Broncos
Starting point is 00:39:57 Bo next. How about that? Big weekend. Bo, Bo, Bo, what's going on, dude? Let me see if we can get, you should get in here. Let me get you in here. What up, Bo? We got to get closer.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Hey, Coach, you doing. I'm going to see. Good, man. We just talked the other day. And then you went and beat my Chiefs, man. Well done. Somebody else is about to beat your Chiefs this weekend. Oh, hey, uh, hey, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:20 a, boy, real quick. Can you talk before we let him go back to his job, obviously, huge game this weekend, about kind of what an Oregon team or a program is like. with him as your coach. He feels like one of the most electrifying humans we've ever been around, obviously, Bo. He is, and he doesn't fake it when he gets on screen. This is what you get at all times, and he's one of the best coaches in America, in my opinion. And he helped me get to where I am today. I owe him a lot. But obviously, I'd be saying the same stuff if he wasn't on the program with us. But I love Coach Langing. We had a great two-year run together,
Starting point is 00:40:53 and I wish I could run it back any day. Love you, buddy. Appreciate you, man. Keep balling. I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Good luck this week. Y'all should see Pat run this show from a pair. He's got all these buttons.
Starting point is 00:41:04 It's impressive, man. Come on, come on, man. We're doing it out there. I appreciate you. I got a little gear for you over here. Oh, you're the man. Thank you for that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Thank you. We love you. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Landis. They're clapping for you. They're clapping for you. They're clapping for you. Bo, hey, sorry, brother. That was perfect, actually.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I'm happy you got a chance to hold on. I'm a perfect timing. I needed a holler at coach real quick anyway. That's good. What did you want to say to him? Did you want to get anything from me? You need some more Oregon gear? They just brought me a box.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I can ship it your way if you need it. Hey, listen, they take care of us just fine. We got all the gear we need. Trust me. It seems like that's kind of been the story about Oregon way before the NIL era, always had the greatest gear. This place is special. There's a fog happening right now behind me that is absolutely outrageous
Starting point is 00:41:46 and doing some numbers to our cameras currently. So we appreciate you kind of dodge, duck, dip diving, and dodging with us. Let's talk about you. So we had Sean Payton on the show the night you were drafted during our draft spectacular. And he couldn't stop talking about how it was like love at first meet with you. Obviously he loved the film. But then once he started talking to you, the person, it was like an instant connection. What was that from your side?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Did you feel that as well? Because there's obviously, AJ got drafted number five overall. Obviously you got drafted high. I got picked 222, you know. So we're kind of in the same boat here. But whenever like there's some teams you feel a better connection with. some coaches you feel a better connection and you're like hoping for. Is that something that happened with Sean Payton?
Starting point is 00:42:28 And don't feel obligated to say yes, even though you kind of are in this moment. But what are your thoughts of like from Sean Payton meeting him to now? Well, I loved our visit. When he came out to Eugene, we were able to sit down and, you know, really go through a hour long, you know, a couple hour long meeting talking football with him and Davis, my quarterback coach now. And, you know, we just literally went through an install and we talked a lot. lot about football. We're it originated how he got it. And we watched some video along with it,
Starting point is 00:42:59 watch some of my stuff, how it compared. And I always knew we had a, you know, just similar background, similar style. He likes the quick game. He likes the shots. And obviously, I love throwing the football. So for me, it was, you know, it was all about going to a place to be with a coach that, in my opinion, had so much knowledge and so much experience that I could learn from. And that's exactly what I with coach. And then I think underrated is Davis Webb, my quarterback coach. He's just, he's always prepared me extremely well, especially from the get-go. He played the position and, you know, know what it's like to walk into a game. And so he prepares me on a very good level and we're always, you know, ready for the task at hand. I love to hear that about you and your coaches.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Your coaches feel the same exact way about you. That's a beautiful thing. That means you're an absolute dog on the field and off the field. We respect and appreciate that, with the future of the NFL being in your hands. From last year to this year, going into the season, okay, going into the season, you guys were like Super Bowl darlings by everybody. And it was always because how good the defenses, is defense, this defense can win. Sean Peyton going to be good on offense is how everybody just kind of views Sean
Starting point is 00:44:11 Peyton. For you, from last year to this year, a whole different ball game, understanding what NFL defenses are doing, understanding what your offense is? Like, how do you describe last year versus this year? And you guys obviously up into the right. brother. Congratulations on all the hard work. Well, thank you, but it definitely, one, starts with a defense.
Starting point is 00:44:29 In this league, you've got to be able to stop people. And it comes down to the end so many times to where we just feel comfortable with our defense that they're going to go out there and get a stop, no matter what happens. They rush the passer at an, you know, all-time, you know, effective way. And they do a great job downfield, covering guys and make open-field tackles, a lot of erasers on that defense. So we know at all times, you're going to have. to stop people. And if you can stop people, that's the name of the game. And offensively,
Starting point is 00:44:58 we're, you know, at times we've been great this year. At times we've struggled, but I think when it matters most, we know how to go down there and just finish out the game and do what we need to do to close it out. And, you know, it's not always an easy, you know, four quarters. Everybody acts like we're great in the fourth quarter, but I just think we're great at finishing the football game. And, you know, we have timely positions where we score points, we score touchdowns, we get field role, whatever it may be, we tend to go down there and do it. But at the same time, you know, we've done it for a couple weeks now in a row, but we still got to continue on this track and continue this role we're on. But it's not going to be easy. We've got a really
Starting point is 00:45:39 tough schedule down the stretch here. And, you know, we just got to find ways to continue to close out these close football games that we've been in. Yeah, I think closing out games and winning games is a trait that great teams have, you know. And obviously you have five fourth quarter comebacks this season that's tied for the most alongside the Bears. That's some Hembo stats for you. It feels like we're just watching Will Lutz kind of come out and win games alongside every other kicker that is in a winning position and on a winning team. I want to let you know, Bo, you're fun to watch, and we've seen a lot of you. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Bo, just curious, you know, now with the way college football
Starting point is 00:46:17 is, a lot of times, guys, you know, they'll have one prolific year and then they're going to the NFL and getting drafted high. But with guys like you and Brock Purdy comes to mind too, like a big talking point is these guys are so ready to play in the league because they started so much in college. Do you feel like that was the case with you that you were kind of just ready to take that baton and run with it because you had so much experience play in college? Obviously the NFL is next level. You have to improve and learn. But how ready did you feel like you were when you got into the NFL? I feel like I was as ready as I could be, but at the same time, the NFL's, I mean, it's its own league.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's its own thing to where you even have to get some experience in that before you feel like you're super ready and prepared to go in each and every game. But I think playing as much as you can in college is only going to help a collegiate athlete and it's only going to help for the future. And so a lot of these guys that, you know, are making decisions, I think there's nothing wrong with going back and doing it again. and, you know, being in college, learning from your coaches, learning from experience and seeing defenses over and over and being in different types of games and having different types of outcomes. I just don't think that's a bad thing. And I think in the grand scheme of things, when you look at myself, Jaden, you know, all of us that spent a lot of time in college, you know, it just showed up and we've been able to, it's shown and it's, you know, it's allowed us to grow, I think, as younger players and have some success early. What's your dims? What's your dims? What's your dimension? Sorry. You feel like you're a bit of a stout individual. Are you? I'm thinking two, 25. First of all, I didn't know where you were going with dims there. I was going to have to ask what that meant. But I'm glad you clarified. I'm 6-2-15. So I feel like there's so many of us in the league that are around 6-2, 6-3, 6-10 to 2-25, 2-30. I feel like we're all fall in that category. and I'm right there in the middle.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Okay, so they use that for traits whenever they're scouting guys and everything like that, but I think it matters. You have to be a little bit bigger to take some of the hits. Have you transformed how you kind of came into this season versus last year after taking some of the hits from grown-ass men? Is that change anything with you and how your body is? That's a great question. I focused this off-season on maximizing,
Starting point is 00:48:44 and it sounds crazy, but maximizing how athletic I think I can be and not neglecting that and just being able to run as fast as I possibly can and be able to move as quick as I can. I mean, the size is always going to, you know, be there. And I feel like, you know, 215 for my frame is plenty. I can get up to, you know, 220. And it's like, you know, I don't feel much of a difference.
Starting point is 00:49:08 But I think the strength is there. And I think at this point in your career, you know, with the college, Strength and Conditioning Program, were you worried about strength? I think now with, I mean, because everybody in the league's athletic. If you can move away from people, if you can run, if you can try to avoid some guys and run for a first down, I think that's where defenses, you know, they can't stand it. So a lot of us, you know, going into the league, if you look at a lot of the guys in the league right now, up and coming, the guys that are just showing up, I think the ability
Starting point is 00:49:40 to escape is what sets guys apart. You know, you've seen Patrick do it for forever now. Josh does it at a high level. Obviously, Josh is, you know, different size than all of us. He's bigger than every single one of us it feels like. But there's still an element of moving and getting away from the blitz and the pressures and being able to extend plays that I think just gives defenses a hard time. Yeah, I think everybody has to move nowadays.
Starting point is 00:50:04 The strictly pocket quarterback is of days past. I think that's just natural evolution of athleticism amongst males potentially, and especially in sport of football. You, I don't know, I don't immediately think it. You guys need to stop taking hits, though. Okay? You guys need to stop taking hits. You big athletic guys, hey, we're so super athletic.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Okay, well, get your ass out of bounds or get down, okay? Because our league depends on you, all right? So you need to know that. My livelihood, my happiness. Okay, my daughter, I love her, my family, love my family. I will get happiness from my family, okay? But my happiness comes from NFL football. And you assholes, okay, you super athletic.
Starting point is 00:50:42 on new quarterbacks are need to just let's not be as alpha all the time okay let's just not take hits because we need you okay these eyes need you out there all right you got that i got i got it and that trust me there's nobody that wants to avoid these big shots more than me no i'm me i think it's me now go ahead yeah sean payton probably is lost sorry okay let's talk about the youth of your team seemingly go ahead tone yeah bow i wanted obviously everybody knows Cortland Sutton. He's been in the league for a long time. He's been great for a long time. But your other wide receivers, Pat Bryant's a rookie, Troy Franklin, second year. He's only 22 years old. Marvin Mims, I believe, is only 23 years old too. Obviously, you being young and
Starting point is 00:51:22 coming in with these guys and building with these guys, is it exciting? Because you know that you're all so young and that you can continue just to keep getting better? Absolutely. It's, you know, being young is a great thing, but it's also, you know, in the league, they don't really wait on you. So you got to, you know, mature as quick as you can, but we have a very, you know, all of those guys that you just listed, they're extremely mature. They're great football players and they're only going to get better in this, you know, during the season and then in their careers. But it's, I think it's good that we're all learning together and we know that there's sort of a, um, a hurry to get better. It's
Starting point is 00:52:02 like as fast as you can get better, especially in this situation we're in, you know, going, And leading our division and playing really good football, the urgency to even get better is there. And, you know, it's great to have younger guys. They all have, you know, fresh legs. They can run all day. They're eager. They're excited. They show up to work each and every day.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And I think they're just very competitive dudes that, you know, we all just want to show up and do whatever we can to win. And right now we're, you know, we're doing that. Now, there's a lot of room to grow. and, you know, we can just watch over and over things that we can get better at. But I think that's the fun part of football. Yeah, you guys are number one team of the AFC. Okay, you said, yeah, we're leading the division. Bob, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yep, above the courts? Yes, above the quotes. That's actually had to have them pull this graphic up from my little monitor here to see where exactly we were sitting and where they were sitting because I wanted to talk shit immediately. And then I was showing this graphic. It's like, okay, Broncos's number one team of the AFC. Everybody needs to relax.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Okay, everybody needs to show them their respect. as they should. Speaking of respect, your teammates are showing you a lot of respect. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Bo, a lot of us are prisoners of the moment, and I would definitely throw myself in that category, so I apologize if you've ever seen any of my tweets about you. I'd take them all back, especially after your unbelievable performance against the Chiefs. It feels like you have kind of silenced all the doubters, and Adam Trotman gave a great post game, just about people who do talk crazy about you. And, you know, you go out and have that performance, and it's
Starting point is 00:53:31 unbelievable, and you beat the Chiefs. And then the conversation this week, week is more so about the Chiefs losing and the Broncos, you know, going out there and getting a massive win. Do you guys have that bunker mentality within the, you know, the building where, hey, everybody else can talk about whatever the hell they want. We're nine and two. We're the one seed at the end of the day. That is indisputable. They can't really say anything about that. How is the team when it comes to that mentality? And does this feel like one of the closest teams you've ever been on? We actually do talk about how close our team is. You know, we just got a lot of young guys. I mean, I think our oldest guys are year eight, year nine. So we're just
Starting point is 00:54:11 all in similar stages of life. I think that's what makes us close. But we also know what it was like last year. We know what it was like to lose some of these close games. And so we have turned some of those around. We have had a better record in close football games this year. But I do think it just goes back to the confidence and the belief of the team. We believe that we can win these games were not going up and, you know, I feel like last year, sometimes we like didn't expect or didn't think we were going to find a way to win at the end. And then after a couple of those games this year that went our way, we just kind of felt like, hey, guys, we got this. We can win these close games. We got really good defense that we can lean on. We got offensive playmakers
Starting point is 00:54:51 that are going to make plays when time comes. And then Will's done a great job in clutch time. And so when you look at our team, look at how close we are, we just know what it can be like on the other side so we don't try to get too focused up in the you know the narrative or the perception we that can go so many different ways you're you're you're exactly right and in the uh you know it's all about your the moment we get so stuck in the moment where in another week people will be saying something totally different um so we try not to get too caught up in the chaos of of what's going on outside we just try to you know live within our building and go to work every day find ways to get better. There's so many, you know, on clips or out there that list of things that we have
Starting point is 00:55:32 to, you know, grow and get better at. And I think that's also what's keeping us a little bit urgent and hungry. We know we have these things to get better at. And so we won't, we don't really have time to sit around and act like we've, you know, made it because we really haven't. We're just, you know, we're winning close games and that's what's put us in this situation right now. Hell yeah, Bo. Hey, I don't know if you know this man or not, but it's a compliment when I say this, I think a lot of people take it the same way. I don't want you to take it any other way. You sound exactly like Kevin O'Connell when you're speaking.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And that's good, not bad. Every answer you give is, like, of a leadership, what you're hoping for your quarterback to be. And we appreciate the hell out of you. I want to give you a nice shot here of these trees to maybe take you back to your time and Eugene. And maybe get a little feeling as they test the sky cam for tomorrow's massive game against USC here at Ottson.
Starting point is 00:56:25 We appreciate the hell out of you, Bo. Good luck the rest of the way. healthy thank you so much for having me today and by the way go ducks they're going to get it done what's final score what's score what's scored yeah uh I think Dante and the boys they'll put up 31 points and our defense will hold them to 17 it'll be 31 17 ball it's pretty good you're the man ladies gentlemen colleagues okay they will be mad though All right, respect, we appreciate you, Bo. We're back on the other side.
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Starting point is 00:57:26 Austin Stadium with a beautiful view There you go, Pat I see you Look at the fog rolls out And here we are Like it's a new, you're in a new place It seems like Yeah, the fog rolls in The fog rolls out
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's ball season, let's all ball out So I think the good news About what has taken place this morning Is we got the eerieness of Eugene, Oregon in there Kind of set the scene For what USC is going to have to walk into tomorrow. Lincoln Riley and the boys
Starting point is 00:57:52 have to take on an Oregon team that is different and better and only looking for the college football playoff at this moment. Only one loss in the college football playoff committee who said, listen, Oregon, you don't be messing around out of here. Dan Lanning joined us earlier. He was awesome. Bo Nix joined us earlier. He was awesome. The view has now become absolutely spectacular back here. And tomorrow morning should be absolutely electrifying on college game day, which will be live on X and ESPN. I guess it's, It's been a huge year for all of college ball, even with the hiccup in, hey, we don't get along with each other right now because we both are trying to make our businesses survive, which is certainly something that took place in the middle of ball. Don't love that that happened at all.
Starting point is 00:58:35 None of us do, but we're happy to be on the other side of it. It should be a glorious football weekend, and it started great last night as the Houston Texans get a gigantic dub over the Buffalo Bills. And now the entire conversation leading into Week 12 is, is this Buffalo Bills Tingo, winter boy, AJ? Is this Buffalo Bill is going to win Super Bowl? Or are they just going to have the best player in ball and not be able to get it done? And how do they transform into a team that gets the Lombardi? And that's what happens in week 12
Starting point is 00:59:04 when you lose on Thursday night to the Houston Texans and get sacked eight times and have a defense that's not able to get a stop whenever you need it, AJ Hawk. Yeah, that's the problem. If you're going to lose a game, lose a one o'clock Sunday game, right? That not a whole lot of people see. When you lose a prime-kind game,
Starting point is 00:59:19 especially a game like this to where you get sacked eight times and turn the ball over three times as a team, yeah, I think people are going to question you a little bit more than they normally would. I was, I mean, I was on record saying I thought these Buffalo Beals were a team that was going to the Super Bowl this year. I can't say I'm as confident in that statement as I was maybe a couple months ago right now. I don't know, man. They've been banged up, obviously, but Josh Allen is a generational talent.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And for whatever reason, this team can't figure it out. What the hell is going on with Keon Coleman? Yeah, what is the official statement? What's the official statement from the coaches? I think the official statement is just he's a ship. Bird. I don't know if there was any other official statement. I mean, if you're the... He should have late, right? He should have
Starting point is 00:59:58 I guess he missed a team meeting. Yeah. They said he missed the team meeting. And then this Thursday I saw they kind of blamed it on like, well, it was a short week, so you know, he just needs to keep stacking days so we can get him out there next week. And then I saw Tyrell Shaver, sorry, my bad. I saw Tyrell Shavers, the rookie
Starting point is 01:00:13 wide receiver, talk about their relationship about he's the big brother and Keon Coleman's the little brother. Yeah, well, I think That's Trace McGrady out here. Yeah, he's part of ownership. He's, so he obviously, I think, from ownership going down and talked to Young Buck O.G.
Starting point is 01:00:30 In sports, who is, how many years did he play? We just watched him play in Atlanta a couple years ago. Who, uh, how many years did Vince play? Oh, Vince played 20, I think. Yeah, this is Tracy McGrady. How many years did he team at play? Oh, I want to say at least 15 because he had, he had magic. to Raptors
Starting point is 01:00:53 15. Did we see we saw Vince? Did we see Timax? No. Just Vince. I know we saw Vince. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. No T-Mack. That was like Vince's kind of like last go around when we saw him in Atlanta. Did I see T-Mack in a Pacer?
Starting point is 01:01:07 I don't know. Whenever you see, you just think of like legend and you think like super OG whenever you think of like certain guys. T-Mack obviously one of them. Him talking to young players saying, hey, you've got to tighten your shit up.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I think Dion Dawkins said the same thing last week after the game. said, hey, I think you need to tighten this thing up. He needs to continue to grow. It's like, I hate hearing that. And in a Buffalo Bill's building, I like that they're holding them accountable, but I didn't think this was possible in that building, AJ. Like, I thought that was kind of not really the thing,
Starting point is 01:01:34 which I guess is why they're trying to publicly make sure people know that it's not their thing. Like, hey, yeah, this guy's not acting right. This is not how this is going to go. Seemingly what the Buffalo Bills are not only saying to Keon Coleman, but to anybody that is to join the Buffalo Bills, like this is not what we're about over here, AJ. Yeah, I would think that's the thing where the coach is setting the tone, letting people know, like, let everybody else know. If you're not, if you're going to show up late, if you're going to do, you're not going to be a pro, which we always talk about being a pro.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Like, there's consequences for your actions. And that's what you're doing. You're trying to make sure you cut this off right now from Keon Coleman. But you also, hey, none of these young guys coming into your facility, they know that, hey, you know, they sat Keon Coleman for a primetime game. Like, hey, you can't be doing this kind of stuff. We want to tolerate it with no deep threat. They sat Keon Coleman with no deep threat. They needed them.
Starting point is 01:02:18 When they actually, yeah, they really needed him. They could have used him like, obviously. Yeah, they need Keon Coleman, and they're like, nope, we're not doing it, which I appreciate them saying. I respect it, yeah. Yeah, we will not jeopardize our culture for anything. There is nothing that we'll get in the way of that. I respect it. Schottnheimer had to make some tough decisions.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Schott andheimer had to make some tough decisions. Obviously, we saw CD Lamb and George Pickens missed the first drive, and then we saw CD Lamb and George Pickens take over the rest of the game. There's now a quote that has come out from C.D. Lamb. that basically said it was disrespectful to even suggest that he was thrown up in a casino, which is why he was suspended. Did we have a few drinks? Certainly. Were we at Red Rock?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. Did we miss the curfew? So what? It's hard. What do you want from us? How'd we play? Perfect. But you guys saying that I was puking and all this stuff?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Relax. I'm an adult. Okay? I can hoot with the owls, sore with the Eagles. always have. You saw how we played. Let's just talk about that. Now, we can't be missing curfew, which I assume is what Shottie said. Boys, come on, just like the most Las Vegas thing of all time. He can't just miss curfew in Las Vegas. And C.D. Lam and George Picking say you never walk away from a heater. They could have been on a blackjack heater that we have no
Starting point is 01:03:37 idea about. But they miss curfew. CD comes out with one of the most legendary quotes of all time, and Shottie and the Dallas Cowboys move on after a massive win. That's kind of how I see this all unfolding, but I don't like the trend here of team meetings and curfews and all this shit being missed. We're in the middle of big-time football right now, boys.
Starting point is 01:03:57 This is November. We're trying to win a damn Super Bowl out here, and maybe you know Jerry Jones going on the record and saying you think I'll give a fuck about football right now? There's $100 billion of natural gas underneath our feet right now. You think I care about football? Maybe that sets a
Starting point is 01:04:13 bit of a standard around everybody else so you don't have to be completely locked in or maybe they just missed curfew accidentally shot he had to punish them and there is two biggest stars be who you can afford to be basically and they go crazy after making a mistake i'm happy that we kind of move on this isn't a big deal i'm happy cd lamb had a hilarious quote but i don't like the trend of potentially people just you know not respecting the profession of being an athlete you know what i mean i'm not saying that this is that but i'm saying keon coleman's story this story this story this story, if we go back to last year with what we were hearing on the Colts, buddy, it's like, I think every, I don't think, I don't think any generation is immune
Starting point is 01:04:51 to people not being pros, but in 2025, I didn't think it was going to happen anymore because how business-oriented everybody is, basically, if that makes sense, AJ. Oh, yeah, and these guys have been treated like professionals since they were probably 12 years old, and you know how good they are in the different seven-on-seven teams and travel teams, AAU basketball, like they've, they understand what it's about. But think about, you can kind of turn around in Miami Dolphins. I know Gump's sitting over there with you We heard a lot of stuff coming out
Starting point is 01:05:15 We heard a head coach even saying What am I going to do? Find him? These guys don't care about getting fine money And I don't, we haven't heard a whole lot of that stuff And they've actually won a few ball games now Yeah, we figured it out Jack Jones told us he loves coach He's called him a genius
Starting point is 01:05:28 As you guys can see Gumpy has his microphone pointed directly at the death Perfect As you guys As you guys See that There we go Sick clock though
Starting point is 01:05:39 Sick clock Sick clocks So underneath that clock there, is that, can you lift the, can you lift the clock? Is it taped on or what is it? You can lift it. That's kind of looking. Look at it. It's just like an outlet.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah, a thermostat, like, type thing there. Oh, wow. I think, sweet. Wouldn't frame around it? That's old school. That wooden frame, that wouldn't frame was just added, I do believe. Need some pain on it, especially in this weather. Get on it.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yeah, so that wooden thing was just added by a man named Shane. Okay, Shane is an ops worker here at the stadium at Autson. And that thing had no. wood around it. That thermostat was just sitting over Gumpy's shoulder in this particular shot with where we are. President's suite, very nice. They have like a little seemingly smoking area here of the suite in the spot over there. I don't want to describe it of how I would view this particular area, but this feels like a smoking balcony. It's kind of covered. There's seemingly stuff. I don't know if that's what people are doing here, but that's how I would certainly view this presidential
Starting point is 01:06:33 suite. So it's very kind, thankful that they put us in here. Gumpy, that's the spotter he's at, didn't have any. Guy named Shane built all that this morning for Gump. to cover that up. Think about that. Built that. The clock. He built that clock. He's a crass. I have no idea how you even. Yeah, this Shane guy. Hey, thank you, buddy. That's the Oregon difference. Call McGiver. He just drawn a picture
Starting point is 01:06:54 on a sheet of paper, maybe, taped it over. That'd be a half measure. There's a whole story behind it. There's a whole story behind it. That's good. That'd be a high estate thing to do. Oregon doesn't take half measures. Oh! Hey, who's the big 10 champs right now? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:12 season's still going on. Oregon. Oregon's the reigning Big Ten champs. Have some respect. Isn't it amazing how these big, these conference championship games have just taken on a different meaning now with the college football playoffs
Starting point is 01:07:24 in the future? Oh, classic. Classic. What did you do? I'm going to say, if I'm Ohio State, I'm thinking, hey, we get to the Big Ten championship, all right, let's not get hurt.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Let's not get our studs hurt before we're going to playoff run. You sound like Coach Saban. Coach Saban says, I don't think he's going to be able to, Nah. It has opened up, but I don't know. He's probably in line. There's probably 30 planes in front of him that are circling with him. Yeah, he hop in the cockpit yet.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Just take a circle and just, all right, I'm going to do it as myself. My parachute just jump out. I think he should maybe just start flying planes. That would be an incredible thing. All right, let's, I understand. You want me to get, are we firing any missiles? Last time I did this for fired. He's the best.
Starting point is 01:08:08 All right, let's talk a little bit about firing missiles. AJ Brown, the Philadelphia Eagles, always, always, not just some ways, not just halfways, always in the middle of something seemingly, still able to win, still able to put a great product on the field, but there's always some sort of drama. It is taking its next step. A.J. Brown was interviewed about maybe the state of his ability currently at his locker. What would you say to, there's some speculation out there that you need? are not the same player I can't say quanted the same player either then
Starting point is 01:08:45 alright but I don't come in by then I don't care about that you obviously don't believe it y'all don't believe that I didn't say it okay okay so you know that was a quick response he's thought of that he's thought of that he's been seeing it he's been seeing it like AJ actually just trash now like AJ Brown I'm not. He's old news. This guy's washed. He's seeing that. He goes, oh, so just because I'm not having the same year I had last year, I'm washed. In his mind, he goes, let's start looking at some other people here. Sequin, how's he doing this year? The worst of last year? Okay, so does he wash?
Starting point is 01:09:22 Sweet. This guy just walks right into his trap. Hey, I read a couple tweets saying it may be your washed, boom, response that he wasn't able to put on X right to this guy. Saquan washed, thanks. Shut up. Next question. Let's move along here. What are we even talking about? AJ is an incredible talent. A.J. Brown's a game changer, a game record. Right now, it does feel like, man, and I guess not right now. It has felt for some time now that maybe he doesn't love what's going on over there, AJ. What is the answer to this? And how do you feel about Coach Siriani seemingly always having to juggle, you know, relationships and drama at seemingly every single turn? Yeah, I mean, think about when you think of an NFL football team, all the different personalities, everything you've got to figure out as a head coach. Siriani has a lot on his plate. And I understand A.J. Brown being frustrated by that question. Wouldn't you? I get it.
Starting point is 01:10:12 If I'm going to ask you that question, like, hey, I don't know if you watch. You watch every single rep, buddy? Even if they're not getting me the ball, I'm still getting open. I'm still able to do things and play like I can. Just my numbers might not be there. Now, I don't think you have to pull Sequan into it. I understand, you know, you're frustrated. But then he said, I got no comment on that after you make a comment that you know
Starting point is 01:10:30 is going to go around, probably. You want to talk about two six? Go ahead and ask them. Yeah. Hey, you wash, you wash, dude, are all. Offense sucks this year. Are you all, are you bad? All right, no other comments, basically, is what age is going to fix it, though.
Starting point is 01:10:43 How do we fix this? Like, obviously, if he gets 10 balls for 120 and two touchdowns, the next five games, it's a little bit different. Like, two weeks ago, he kind of had that game, and it's still. Yeah, like, what, how did, I mean, Siriani's doing some, him and Dom are doing some great work behind the scenes, I guess, probably just trying to keep this thing under wraps a little bit. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Well, last year, remember, it was a big conversation about the water sewers not getting the ball. Like, hey, because Sequin Barclay kind of led the team through it all. Their run game and their offensive line was everything for the Philadelphia Eagles team. And then having Devonte and A.J. Brown, his weapons over the top was certainly a nice added bonus to have two number ones that you can throw with whenever they have to stack the box. And they did all that. It was awesome to watch last year. Kelly Mo leaves.
Starting point is 01:11:23 But they had an awesome offense last year. And then they come into this year, and they were still mad. Everybody was still mad last year. Sireani had to balance that. And then at the end of the season, whenever they win the Super Bowl, the two guys that dumped the Gatorade on Coach Siriani are the two wide receivers that have potentially been underutilized all year or maybe misrepresented in what they are to the offense
Starting point is 01:11:44 or what they are around the league because they didn't get as many touches because they're the ones that dumped the thing. So it was like obviously the coach Sriani was having to manage that because he's four and wide receiver. That guy can give you a nine, right? That's right. Right now if you really wanted to. So he understands that.
Starting point is 01:11:59 But it just only continues. It's only continued because I think their offense has gotten worse and they still haven't been able to do it. So it's like, was this inevitable? Was this brewing? And I don't know. Ty, what do you think inevitably happens with Coach Siriani, the Philadelphia Eagles, A.J. Brown in the future.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And Conman, if you want to tag this right after Ty talks about it, everybody's saying, A.J. Brown wants to get back under the variable coaching tree. Everybody's saying that that's where A.J. Brown's trying to go. Is that how you feel like this ends, Ty? Or what are your thoughts on how Coach Siriani handles all this? I mean, yeah, it seems like that, like they're, you know, Howie Roseman said at the trade deadline, like, hey, you don't trade away a guy like that when you're trying to win a Super Bowl, but it doesn't see, and just based on what we do on Mondays with Overreaction Monday, like, I don't see a whole lot of people. People obviously don't love these kind of comments from A.J. Brown, but I think it's more so, like, they're talking about the offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You know, they're talking about Kevin Petulah. Like, this guy can't get it figured out. And luckily, they have maybe a generational defense this year that has kind of eased that a little bit. but it just, I mean, I think this comes on the heels. I think A.J. Brown either sat down with the owner or Howie Roseman and basically said, like, hey, from here on out, like I promise, I'm not going to be a distraction. And then for this to come out right away, but like Tony mentioned, like they kind of had this thing where it was, hey, AJ Brown, he had, I think, one catch for four yards one week, they win, and it gets really loud. And then the next week they come out and he has 10 catches in the first quarter, you know, so they, they, but it's like at this point, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:31 they're still trying to win a Super Bowl. Like, and for Siriani, I'm sure it's just like, this is Groundhogs Day. Like, we're 8 and 2 right now, and this is all people want to talk about. Am I ever going to have the opportunity where I can just walk in and be like, hey, you know what? We're pretty good. Like, I understand you guys are unbelievable players, but like we really don't need to bitch about anything. Every single game we play, like, we should win if we do what we're supposed to do. But yeah, it just at this point, it's a story every single week no matter what happened.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And so it's impossible to imagine that he's going to all of a sudden next week just be like, you know what, everything is kind of in perspective and I want to be here. Like it seems like he is ultimately just going to be traded at the end of the season. Well, and you've mentioned like Pat that he, you know, I was always in the center or something, but he's also always been unbelievable since his rookie year. Like he's never had a year where it's like, oh, no, maybe A.J. Brown's losing a step. Like, nope, he is fantastic. And there was a clip of him sitting next to Jalen Hertz at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:14:27 And that was this year after they won. They're sharing lockers. It's great vibes. Everything is awesome. Celebration. We just won a ring. AJ Brown, J. Brown, Jalen Hurts, both of their first Super Bowl victories after losing the Super Bowl two years prior. So it's not as if they don't have that in their back.
Starting point is 01:14:45 But we are so far removed from that moment. And I don't know what the relationship is like. Clearly it's not what that video shows, though. Because if it was, then we want to be here having this conversation. And you mentioned, you know, everyone is tagging to New England. Throw myself in that. I am also saying, welcome to New England, buddy. You're going to love being a New England Patriot.
Starting point is 01:15:06 But that's the thing. Look at the Patriots and Stefan Diggs. The whole entire conversation around Stefan Diggs for a long time, especially after he left the bills, was Diva. This guy only cares about how, you know, he wants his balls. He wants his touchdowns, pause, as they say, his touchdowns, all those things. But at the same time, there is some sort of. of transparency in the building between coaches, McDaniels, Drake May, and Stefan Diggs, that clearly
Starting point is 01:15:33 isn't present with the Eagles. I don't know if they're telling him, you know, one thing, like he's going to get 10 passes in the first half every single game, and then that's not happening. But there is some sort of lack of communication, at least outside looking in, that it feels like. I don't know if it's lack of communication. I assume there is communication coming from Siriani. I think there's something that happened.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I saw a tweet that was going around, too, and I don't know if that's necessarily it, but it does feel, and I think I saw Deshawn Jackson talking about it, maybe on either his podcast or who was he with? He was with a former running back from Miami. Clinton Portis, I think.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Fortis. Clinton Portis. Clinton Porris. I got a chance to do TV of Clinton Portis back in the day on NFL Network. He's awesome. 2 a.m. call time. I laugh so hard to Clinton Porch, so many times. Now, Clinton Porters got caught up and some stuff. I'm happy to see him back.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Clint Porriss was very good to me and very hilarious. Him talking to Deshawn Jackson. DeShon Jackson was like, it feels like something happened here. It feels like a personal relationship. The personal relationship could be kind of ruined from a numerous different things, maybe not getting the ball on a regular basis when you think you're open. But also with a locker room, AJ, these are humans interacting with humans. And Jason Kelsey talked about it on a morning show over there in Philadelphia about him
Starting point is 01:16:50 and Lane Johnson getting into it so bad and actually not even talking to each other. and they would consider each other best friends. He talked about how Stoutland, obviously, the offensive line coach is like Jason Kelsey's second father, you know, aside from Ed, and he got into it with him. It's like football brings out a lot of emotions, and there's a lot of pride, and there's obviously a lot of confidence and a lot of success and a lot of alphas. It's like, is that manageable in the middle of a season for this team? It seems louder than last year, even, AJ.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Yeah, it does seem louder than last year. And if you're a receiver, your whole life depends on your quarterback, though. Like, you can run the best routes in the world. You can be open every single play. If you don't get it to you, then people don't know what's going on other than your coaches could, hey man don't work keep working i see you i see you getting open we'll get you the ball like i don't know i it's good this is going to happen as long as football is around which is hopefully forever we know that like we're receivers and people are going to want the ball people are if i don't get
Starting point is 01:17:37 the ball enough i want the ball but the thing is the eagles are winning games that's why the eagles are their own like special work their favorites to win the super bowl yeah they win but they have all these issues that like i don't even want to call them issues but they have been the noise around distractions yeah distractions yeah if you're get labeled a distraction in the NFL, you don't get a job. Okay? Like, that is literally what is, because NFL teams don't want a distraction. Now, granted, if you're a...
Starting point is 01:18:01 Really, really, really good. You can have a job for a while, but eventually your play drops one notch to see ya. Yeah, be who you can afford to be, for sure. But if you get labeled a distraction because of how many distractions are already are and how hard it is to win an NFL game, it's like they're trying to eliminate distractions at all the times. That is literally
Starting point is 01:18:18 what coaches and buildings are trying to do. Scared to death to add a distraction. And then the Eagles are just like one constant distraction and somehow get on the field and win. I don't know. They're defying football. They're defying professional football with how they're doing it because the teams that win are all locked in. I mean, you know, the Patriots, their dynasty, the most you're going to hear out of any of them is we got better on first down, second down, third down, and fourth down. How'd you play day? Good team played really good. We can obviously get better. Okay, that's all
Starting point is 01:18:50 you heard of them. Did you talk to the media? No. Do you do any, if you? events? No. Do you doing this? No. Just locked in because it's hard to win. So you're going to kind of do your thing. Now, certainly some things we've learned about were happening in that dynasty that could be considered pretty big distraction. You know, pretty big. Probably the biggest, maybe biggest ever. You know, maybe biggest ever distraction happening at the same time as playing up there. But it was like super locked in. Ken City Chiefs like, hey, tucking our jerseys in, we're doing it's super locked in. Philadelphia Eagles, it's like drama. Yeah. Everywhere. At every turn, even with the fans, fans' drama.
Starting point is 01:19:27 We hate it. We talk to us. We hate it. We won't win a Super Bowl that year. It's like, I don't know how they do it. Honestly, I have no idea how they do it. Maybe you get bored. Some people like to live, like, not in chaos, but they like to have a little activity around them, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Maybe that's just what keeps them alive, keeps them moving and then not get, yeah, they might just be boring if they went about their business and there's never any noise around them. Maybe they need distractions so that they're not fully engulfed, you know, so it's like, yeah, we need some other stuff to kind of keep us fresh so we can. continue to kind of do our thing here. Sunday play a game, we win. Yes, we did. How's it going? Let's ask the team. Oh, boy. Yeah, we won, I guess, but boy. Imagine Seriani after a game. Like, he wins the game. He's like, for like two seconds, like, yes.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And then their PR guy comes in and lets him know what's like what the headlines are, what they're talking about, what players may have just said at their locker five minutes ago. When did he say that? When did he say that? He said it while he's walking off the field to a fan of that camera. That thing's out right now already. Can I get five minutes Of just happiness after a win possibly Goes out to his press conference
Starting point is 01:20:30 I'm tired of talking about this They don't all want to kill each other I know what he said I know we just won but geez Louise We're trying to get the next week This is a long season we just want a Super Bowl It just never ends it feels like So congratulations the Eagles still being able to do it
Starting point is 01:20:41 And AJ Brown whatever your future is Can't wait to watch you play football Now you boys take it for about a minute And I got something special That's about to pop in front of these pine trees Oh okay Hey Foxy I don't know if he had We got a great slate of college games, I believe, this weekend, that are going to pop up here.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Oh, yes. Look at you guys always on the mark. Here we go. Tone, when you look at this, sorry about that quick mute, we just had, I actually hit that button. We got a good surprise coming for us, boys. I just checked the back wall. Can't wait. But Tome, when you see these games, which one's most intriguing to you?
Starting point is 01:21:11 Like, we're at the part of the season where, like, we did this last week, and I was like, oh, all these games are playoff games. And we're here again, like Oklahoma and Missouri, if you're Oklahoma, you cannot lose to Missouri, or you will definitely drop out after that huge win to Bama last week. Oregon and SC, if Oregon loses, I would not be shocked if they drop out. And SEC, or sorry, SCD kind of moves up into that spot. SMU is playing for a chance to get into the ACC title game as well as Louisville, but SMU has the better chance.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Obviously, you have Montana State and Montana. That's the number two versus number three game in FCS. Pitt and Georgia Tech is basically a playoff game to get to the ACC championship. And then if BYU keeps winning, they will be in the Big 12 championship, most likely against Texas Tech. Cincinnati still has a chance, though. So just like last week, all these games that we have up here have serious, serious playoff implications.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Yeah, we got great slate coming on. And Pat, no real way to intro, this guy looks amazing, but Pat, what do you got going on over Eugene? Oregon Steve's here. Wow. Yeah. Hey, yeah. A lot of years, a lot of the years you couldn't wear this.
Starting point is 01:22:12 They're rivals, Pack 12. Now they're in the Big Ten. And now they're... They could be my Big Ten team. A little different class, too. I don't want I don't want to start bearing too much because I love Andrew. Look, I appreciate him. Obviously, I appreciate the Stanford and Stanford, Steve. You guys kind of ask, Oregon, very, very good. Correct.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Obviously, this place is spectacular. You've talked about this being an incredible home environment. Yeah. I haven't had a chance to experience. I was going to stay for the Indiana Oregon yet. Then I pick Indiana and the way that I do. I go, you probably shouldn't just utilize the sideline passes here this time, and I get out of here. You love this place as a home field advantage.
Starting point is 01:22:44 What do you think about tomorrow in USC? I think it's a super matchup because we got to. to see what Oregon's past defense brings to the table, Pat. They've only played teams in the hundreds in pass offense the last month. And the last time we saw them here, Indiana threw the ball effectively against them. Now they had Mendoza. And this pass offense for SC is their strength. So to me, it's all about how Oregon can defend the past. Now, I will say with USC, when you mentioned Stanford, when Stanford had success against Oregon teams, they matched them up front. Indiana matched them up front.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Everybody talks about the skilled guys with Oregon, but you've got to beat him on the line of scrimmage on both sides. And does SC have that? This is their best chance since Lincoln Riley took over a job at USC. That's a really cool jacket. That is a really cool jacket. Kenny and the boys in the equipment room.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Do you see that? I don't know. Is that the Grateful Duck? It is the Grateful Duck. You look Utter side. Utter one. Yeah, the other one. The other one. You have another sleeve.
Starting point is 01:23:47 That's the utter sleeve, not to be confused with the utter sleeve. Yeah, you talk about Oregon's physicality. I think Dan Lennon loves that. We talked about him last hour, and he said, I want my team to be known to be relentless, and I can't wait to watch that, obviously. Last time we're here, not good for them. No.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Not good at all. The crowd was not even a factor. But on that note, yeah. Crowd tomorrow morning, game day? Oh, they're ready. Crazy. They love us. They love us.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It's a different, different breed. read here. The way they could do staying out Friday night, coinciding with being awake for our show, then go take a quick naparoo, and then come back for the game and be ready to go. Okay, I love that we're doing it, and every time I watched an Oregon show game day, I
Starting point is 01:24:31 felt envious to the people that were there, because how special it was. Every time I've been part of an Oregon game day, it's been a spectacular vibe. Just, you're 6 a.m. out there, and the place is, hey, I mean, it is wide awake, and it's special. It's a special And it's so much better now. When we first
Starting point is 01:24:47 started coming here. We did this right out here, or no, over there. On the side, the other side of the end zone. But that was the best, that was the, that asked a lot for the students to come over. Now we're right in the middle of campus. They'll be ready to rock. Yeah, I cannot wait to see them. This place is special. Tone has a question for you back in the Thunderdome. Yeah, I do, Steve. I agree with you everything about that game. Oregon, obviously being the number one past defense, but they haven't really played anyone yet. But I wanted to take you down to Oklahoma and Missou. Obviously, Oklahoma, gets the big win last week, even though they're outgained
Starting point is 01:25:19 by 200 yards. They only went for 200 yards. Their offense has not looked good at all. Is there any chance Mizzu can get them, though, without Pribula? Because I know the freshman hasn't been great. In Oklahoma's defense is going to throw a ton if it's the freshman going. But can Mizzu, do they
Starting point is 01:25:35 have a chance if Pribula goes, or do you think they have a chance either way? I think they need Pribula with what that brings to the table. You two just pronounce that differently. Figure it out. He's right. Pribula. He's definitely right.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Okay. Well, Tyrant said Prabula. Prebola? No, I said Bo, Pribula. I say Pribula. Okay, yeah. We got it. Whatever the case.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Let's show some respect. They need him. The issue is an ankle. And going against that offense, you're going to need to go 100 miles an hour and can't he sustain that? The issue I have with Missouri is when they have played the upper echelon teams in college football in the SEC. They have it fared great. Where are we got here? Ahma'amad was 52 yards, 52 against Alabama, and then nothing against the other top 10 defense they faced.
Starting point is 01:26:24 So it's an uphill battle. I mean, Oklahoma's defense, what they did to Ty Simpson last week, 240 yards in the first half held him to 80. They get the pick in the end zone, they get the pick six, just an opportune deal. But those are two monster wins for Oklahoma. I actually should have been seven. They should have been at Oregon. Okay, no offense. Before you start diving into that,
Starting point is 01:26:46 AJ actually has a question for you. Yeah, Stanford, Steve, slash Oregon, Steve. I'm not sure how to address you right now, but what do you think of this, you know, when you look at the board here for the college football playoffs, what do you disagree with? Do you have any big issues with what's going on here? Yeah, my issue is 7 to 10.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I would have Oklahoma where at 7, Oregon, below Alabama. I would have Alabama at 8 and then Oregon, Notre Dame, 9, 10, whatever way you want to do that. When you look at Alabama's resume, four top 25 wins. Oregon, Oregon, Minnesota, and Iowa are the only teams over 500 in FBS that they've beaten. That Iowa teams are good football team. They are good. But I just look at the resumes, and to me it's just showing the eye test is weighing more with all those coaches in the room,
Starting point is 01:27:39 but also Alabama is getting penalized for that bad loss of Florida State. I didn't think it was a bad loss then, but the way Florida State season has played out with losing all these games now and not looking like an upper-tier team, they're getting penalized for that loss. Do you think this is going to be consistent with how they view the rankings going forward, or is it like every week we should expect something different? Like, oh, it was a big win, this was a bad loss, this is this. Do they kind of just, you know it a lot better than us? Should we just expect multiple different reasons on why they picked what each week?
Starting point is 01:28:07 Well, you look at a team. Or is each, like, committee different. Yeah, you look at it. I think every week it changes because the ranking. are going to change. So like last week, Iowa was a top 25 win. Now they're not because they lost to SC and now they're out of the top 25. So the resumes are going to change and that's what everybody wants to see with Miami and Notre Dame because they don't have a lot of data points to gain. But will that head to head end up being the big kicker at the end when the resumes are
Starting point is 01:28:33 finalized? Miami, Notre Dame. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I thought Notre Dame got rewarded big time for blowing out Pitt. I don't know how good pit is. You know, when you Talk to Nardoos? They do suck. You're on Narduzi? I'm just saying it. They got a lot to prove.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Look at the schedule. Tyler Palco gave them a speech before last week. Yeah. Do you know that? Did you see the handshake after the game? Yeah. That looked a little dicey. What is that?
Starting point is 01:29:01 I don't know. Freemans seemed like he didn't want to hear. Hear any of that. Is it the 100 to nothing you think? Is that the part of it? Yeah, I thought that maybe. Maybe trying it like Des said, trying to flip it over to Notre Dame side.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Like, whoa, we're just going. coming here to play a football game. So Marcus Freeman said, thanks, Narduz, 110 to 3. Why don't we even just, what are we even doing here as a football coach? But you're saying Notre Dame gets rewarded seemingly for this pit winning. We don't know. I don't know about Pitt yet. Pit goes to Georgia Tech and then they host Miami.
Starting point is 01:29:27 We're going to know a lot more about Pitt. I mean, they were sneaking in the rankings and now they're not. They got the freshman quarterback. They obviously didn't play well last week. When you get that stage and you get that opportunity against a team like Notre Dame, you got to play well. They didn't play well. I expect them to bounce back tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I'm not sure if they're going to win the game. against Georgia Tech. But to me, Notre Dame got a lot of credit for beating that pit team. They were impressive, no doubt, but to jump all the way up or jump the spots that they did and drop Bama behind them, I thought that was a lot. So tone immediately, I think after maybe week three, week four of the college football season, tone immediately goes, well, this reminds us if Notre Dame wins every game by 30 going forward, are they going to get in a playoff? I said, no way. Just because I was a prisoner of the moment, I'm like, can't happen. Now, we know about Texas A&M, obviously.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Texas A&M vastly different view on them now, first maybe at the time. But that is kind of what they've done. They've become a dominant football team. In the eye test, if we're going strictly by eye test, Jeremiah, I love. And they've got price as well. Jeremiah, I love them after us talking to him. I love this. I absolutely love this.
Starting point is 01:30:29 I got an idea if we want to throw a little money on him for the Heisman trophy. Okay. He's going to run for 800 yards against Syracuse and Stanford. Like he's going to do whatever he wants. Okay, now he doesn't have conference championship Saturday to extend his, you know, prowess as far as a Heisman trophy winner. But everyone's saying that it's going to be Mendoza and saying the winner of the Big Ten title game is going to win the Heisman. And I don't agree with that. I think that's going to be a defensive game.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know how impressive the quarterback play is going to be in that game. So if I get love in these two monster showcases, he already showcased last week, I believe he deserves the Heism. What about Marcel Reed? He still got some work to do. I'm saying Jeremiah's got to get way ahead. He's got a chance. Now, look at the other. Are you, are you N-D-SPN?
Starting point is 01:31:16 No, because we got S-E-C-S-P-N. Are you? Are you N-D-SPN? I'm trying to make a kid. You guys were talking about how great you felt about the Texans. I got a little mojo going with this thing. You felt good about Texans, Sue, didn't you? It was stinky. Dude, I woke up in the morning.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't know if you heard. Oh, yeah, I heard. Dude, never. Indiana beating Oregon, the most my body has ever felt. Like, if you listen to me, make that pick, I literally say, congratulations to Indiana. They went as if I was a fortune teller, and I knew what was going to happen. That's how I felt in that game.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Yesterday, same thing with Houston Texans. And I wish I would get it more. Like, that would be really cool if that would start happening. So we got to wait until tomorrow morning. I don't know, because I thought I was going to wake up today and I was going to look at the board and I was just going to get a. Yeah. Get that feeling.
Starting point is 01:31:58 The football gods are going to be like, hey, Pat, actually, we have chosen you to get it right now going forward because of how much it was yesterday. That Texan team, though, is legit. It feels like. Oh, that defense is sick. Unbelievable. Sick. And Dougie Mill is Stanford guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Good player. Didn't play a lot of college football, but he's played more in the pros now. He has college. 29 starts, I think, for the Houston Texans. That's more than at Stanford. What was that? Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:21 There's no way Stanford was playing during COVID. You guys shut that down. I think we got to five games that year? Real? Yeah, I think so. Too scared. Four and two, I think they went four and two. I'm happy everybody was okay, by the way.
Starting point is 01:32:33 A lot of athletes we heard God and Al Shavon. So we're happy that happened. Yeah. Those are wild times. California, shut down. They weren't the only ones, though. He was like, it felt like everywhere it was. Yeah, let's move along.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Let's move along. Where are the other boys? Yeah, Dougie Mills. Let's move along. Connor has a question for you, Stanford, Steve. Yeah, Stanforgan, Steve. I'm wondering what you think about the talent on the field tomorrow. How many GMs, how many NFL scouts do you expect there?
Starting point is 01:33:02 Just because it seems as though there's a lot of first-round picks. I mean, Mackay Lemon over there for USC, I know some teams. Who might want a young rookie wide receiver are kind of eyeing him. And then, I mean, Dante Moore, he's going to be a top 10, top three quarterback probably. What do you expect as far as skill? Well, I'm interested, Connor. It's funny you brought that up. At the Indiana, Oregon game, plenty were on the field in the pregame, watching both quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:33:29 And now we don't know what Dante is going to do with the status. I mean, the way it sounds is that if these quarterbacks are going to keep getting paid, they're going to come back to college. That might be the opportunity for him, knowing that everybody wants a quarterback in the first round, for him to go. So I'm interested to see what scouts are back to show it, because then they're in on Dante Moore.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So that is interesting. But the wide receiver core for SC is awesome. Mackay Lemon is an absolute stud. I know Ty saw Kirk Ferrence's comments about him, talking about a player maybe he hasn't seen in 20 years. I mean, he was dominant last week in leading that comeback to a win. And then Lane's just a perfect off-second.
Starting point is 01:34:07 guy on the other side who has a ton of height. But that's the deal I have to see with SC is the offensive and defensive line. The great SC teams had studs, pros up there, and they've come up here and beat Oregon. Now, it's been a while. They've only played here three times, I think, since 2011. But SC has to win up front, and that's what the test is. I thought they played great both these teams against an Iowa team who I think is very good up front. Oregon rolled up their sleeves and ran the ball down Iowa's throat, and that was the biggest shocker to me. that game. And Iowa, Iowa couldn't get to, couldn't get to the quarterback last week. And that's what provided the comeback for SC. So the lines of scrimmage are enormous, especially for SC in this
Starting point is 01:34:50 atmosphere tomorrow. Yeah, it's getting foggy up here. And Stanford Steve's bringing the heat. Obviously, we appreciate that. Excited to see the scouts and the NFL talent that are on the field tomorrow. The weekend slate features one in Montana that I thought we were going to head to. The highest these two have ever been ranked while facing each other, $125,000. fourth time they'll be playing. Montana State takes on Montana. Not in Bozeman, in Missoula. Yes. And we could have been there. Obviously, we don't make the decision. Looks like Steve doesn't. I'm not going to say who makes a decision. Yeah, Steve, Steve, yeah. Look at that. I'll get the free jacket. I'm old for 11. On guessing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:31 On where are we ahead? Yeah. So you don't want any of me. At some point, you should have got one right. No, I'm going back. I'm like, wow, that's wrong, wrong, wrong. So just know that we all feel the same way, though. No, now. The backdrop there in Missoula would have been incredible. What do you think about that game? Montana State's a favorite in Missoula. That was pretty eye over. I caught a little Montana State last week against UC Davis.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Good ball club. Yeah, what style of plays Montana State have Stanford? A little wide open, quarterback, mobile, a lot of ride at the side, RPO game. What about Montana? Montana, bigger, physical. Oh, it's going to be cold. We know that last time we were wearing sleeves. Those guys don't like wearing sleeves either.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Yeah, it's because they got a showcase that they're tough. That's what they've got to do. Yeah, they could have the old AstroTurf up there. You don't know. All right, question of the week is a coach that's in Ole Miss. Yeah. Now, Theo Vaughn just told a story about experiencing Oxford with Lane Kiffin. talks about his, he wants the yoga with him.
Starting point is 01:36:37 6 a.m. yoga, non-negotiable for Lane Kiffin in this new life that he's living. He's in there every single day. I have happened to have received some text messages before going in there from Lane. My relationship with Lane at this point is pretty hilarious. FaceTime only. FaceTime only.
Starting point is 01:36:54 It's very random. It's not like every day. This is like a patchy, I would say, a relationship in text message. Theo Vaughn talked about him in the middle of this yoga, 6am yoga, about how he's actually not. not the coach, the yoga teacher, whatever it's called the yogi, but he'll go around and motivate some of the people that are in the yoga class. And if it's a little quiet, Theo Vaughn says,
Starting point is 01:37:13 he's dribbling a golf ball in there to add a little accent noises to the 6 a.m. yoga. Lane Kiffin seemingly loves his life at Ole Miss. They are rolling. Everybody thinking, obviously going to the college football playoff, who knows? They're selling that place out, they're celebrating. Belt the ass is becoming their thing. BTA is becoming their thing. I know, obviously, Mississippi State, the bulldogs have the cowbells.
Starting point is 01:37:38 They're getting the belts. Like, they're developing, like, a lot of tradition. I'll take a belt against the cowbell. Cowbell, though, guaranteed sound. Yeah, watch. You got to really do, you've got to do well with the belt, you know. Yeah. Because you can't miss that.
Starting point is 01:37:51 You can squeeze it, and it doesn't make a massive sound. And, you know, so that's a big deal, obviously, on getting the sound and getting everybody in unison. But, like, Lane Kiffin legitimately could become kids. like statute, just like Sabin almost at Alabama. Ty has a question for you about all of that. Yes, Steve. What do you think is ultimately going to happen with this? Connor was looking at
Starting point is 01:38:13 some of the Ole Miss message board before the show, and he was saying how a lot of people are speculating that LSU and Florida boosters are basically flying private flights over Oxford and really rile up the fan base, make them think that something maybe is
Starting point is 01:38:29 happening that's not. I think a lot of people at this point are kind of assuming like, Hey, we don't know if a contract extension was offered. So if that's the case, like, is he gone? He's going to play out this season, but he kind of knows that maybe he will leave for LSU or Florida. The longer this takes, it kind of does seem like there's a good chance that he is going to leave. Where do you sit with this whole thing right now? And what do you think is ultimately going to happen?
Starting point is 01:38:54 It's a lot. I thought Coach Saban has done a great job of explaining how this window and the calendar is just brutal for this and guys trying to make decisions, and when you're talking about families involved in the whole deal. I tend to think that Lane sends his family ahead to Baton Rouge to get a tour, and that purple sells on people. Then you hear the idea that LSU would be in agreement that Coach O would come back and be part of Elaine's staff.
Starting point is 01:39:24 That thing has seriously cooking right there. Purple. Who's saying any of these things? Who's saying any of these things? People. Yeah, I know. incredible. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:39:34 And also, go ahead. I thought there were some deals where there was scenes of the family in Baton Rouge. Okay, so on that note, Baton Rouge, isn't she dating? Didn't a member of the family dating? Yeah, we would assume family has been to Baton Rouge. Okay. Right? We would assume that that is the case.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Now, Gainesville, if there is trips being made, it is fascinating with the family dynamic. Maybe there has to be like, yeah, let's go check it out type thing, because I know the internet was sleuthing, all that stuff, and you can track planes, and I don't love that at all. It's actually a very scary situation, but I understand, hey, we will all have information on everybody about everything. I completely agree with that. But it's like, wow. I know in the history of Ball, you leave Ole Miss to go to Florida or to LSU. It's like, man, you got 10 wins, three straight seasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:32 6 a.m. yoga. I think the rest of his days are pretty good, too. Pretty good. They got yoga in Baton Rouge and Keynesville. Right? Is he dribbling a golf ball around at 6 a.m.? Is he walking around motivating everybody at 6 a.m.? That's how comfortable he is at his 6 a.m. yoga class,
Starting point is 01:40:48 let alone everything else in his life. And it's like, is the money different? I guess that's a question we should ask you. Is LSU, Florida money different? Who's going to make him not be able to say no? That's what it sounds like it's going to come down to. And now it sounds like Ole Miss is going to try and do that this weekend, even though he denied it. Oh, did he?
Starting point is 01:41:05 On your show. Well, he said they didn't make him have an ultimatum. I didn't know if there was like a contract offer already. You know, that that changes everything. Crazy situation that he's just in the middle of. And every other decision kind of waits on what he does. So I think you got a lot of pressure from other agents and other coaches and other ADs and other presidents and governors potentially in some states that would like an answer now because it helps them
Starting point is 01:41:29 and benefits them. I wonder how much of it's actually real, you know, because he said I was not given an ultimatum, and it doesn't sound like he's thinking, I need to make an answer now, but the Ole Miss fans are like, it might not be real, but we're hearing what everybody else is saying, we want an answer now. And like you talked about, in the midst of this, an unbelievable season, one loss,
Starting point is 01:41:46 you know, still has a monster game against his rival. Yeah. Like, they've waited that, that, this is the cusp of the whole run. This is why you hired Land to take you to this place. And with all that going on amidst all these talks. It makes for mayhem. It does make for mayhem.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Blame the calendar. Yeah, Transfer Portal, middle of college football playoff front, you would think next place would want Transfer Portal if Lane was going somewhere. And also... He is Transfer Portal King. TPK. Fair estate guy right now running a lot. No, it's just winning that because all he does is weighing, way and win no matter
Starting point is 01:42:20 one. And that seems like Lane Kiffin's story, too. Remain in Ole Miss with a skyline potentially being built alongside. side of his success, or does he head somewhere else that certainly has other opportunities and options? I don't know. As somebody that is not the closest with Lane, but can text Lane, I'm almost like, brother, life is okay right now. And to your point, he's made- I watched his doc. Yeah. Life being okay now, I think is a big part of it, right? He made that known. Yes, exactly. But the idea how he's done this with
Starting point is 01:42:52 just violating the transfer portal, when you go back to Florida or an LSU, it's more of a home-grown deal. Like, does he really want to go back to sitting in living rooms, recruiting guys? Because that's how you build that thing. You get players from in your state, not necessarily of Ole Miss, where he's just firing away. I mean, Charlie Wise Jr. talked about seeing Trinidad on films, like, call him. And look, save their season. Now, granted, you have to do that again and again and again.
Starting point is 01:43:17 That's what I'm saying. Does that get old or is recruiting get, like, you know what I'm saying? There's two different styles to this. It seems like the recruiting thing is going away, but, like, you see Coach Landing with what he's done. We appreciate the hell out of you. Hey, here's the week 12th slate that we're about to pick. Oh, any of these ones we like? I love the Steelers this week.
Starting point is 01:43:36 If Tone was playing quarterback, I'd take the Steelers and the under and that game. I'll take that as a problem. You like the Steelers and the under. It sounds like you're maybe taking a shot at him like Hobie. No, no, no, no. Did you see that yesterday? Ty, I got you, bro. Hey, thank you.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Thank you, Steve. I love you. All right. Come on. Ty can hit bombs, dude. People forget about that. All right, Steve. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Ladies and gentlemen Watch out for the Chiefs. Just saying. Watch out for the Chiefs. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Get out. Get out.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Take that handshake back. Yeah. Nope. Take it back. Take it back. Quick. All right. See you, buddy.
Starting point is 01:44:12 I appreciate you. What's that about? That was tough. Shot in the way out. There's a great hit, too, up until that. Yeah. What's that? I like these artsy shots that you do.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I don't like you just meet. Oh, popular skull in there. I just have to ask a question, bro. Yeah, he left his spot, Steve. Steve, we showcase the back of that. Oh, no. You need to get out of here because what you're, can you showcase the back of that?
Starting point is 01:44:43 Ooh, you see that? See it? What is the back of this? Come back, okay, come back a little bit more. Face that way, cameras are over here. You can just get on the kid. Sorry, you're back that way, back that way back. Slide over.
Starting point is 01:44:52 You're back here, jacket. Are you on other guy? Other way, other guy. What are we doing? We never got it. He still never got it. He's gone. Is he serious?
Starting point is 01:45:03 All right. See, Steve? That's classic Otter guy. It is. Jerry Garcia designed that thing? Question, did he have to sprint up a 700 flights of steps before he got to the hit? Ah, geez. Mike friend just collapsed, too, after the entire performance we just saw all there.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Yeah, I mean, we're up here. Yeah. I don't know how to that exactification. Ben? Yeah. But also, he's been on. on the road, what, 11 weeks? 12 weeks.
Starting point is 01:45:29 He's home. How many days? One a week, I think. Stanford Steve is home like one or two days a week. He's living life like an old school professional wrestler. I respect it. I do. I really respect it. Hack the holidays with the PC holiday insiders report. Try this PC porquetta. Crackling, craveworthy.
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Starting point is 01:46:20 you're going to do these types of things. Houston Texans cover last night, thank God, and get the outright win. Holy hell, look at this right now. Look at this right now. Oh, man. It's changed like nine times over the course of the last hour and a half.
Starting point is 01:46:33 That's what you dream of. Yeah, I'm up here in you dream. Look at how beautiful this place. You're going to climb in those mountains? Absolutely beautiful. I'll tell you what, you won't need to climb those mountains to get to that altitude, brother. I'm already there.
Starting point is 01:46:48 I'm already there. There's a couple shops with local laws all around where I'm staying, and we will certainly enjoy that and finish it before getting back to Indiana where it is not legal. Of course, we live and die by those rules because we enjoy freedom and life, and we are certainly enjoying that here in Oregon. Hey, you, St. Texans, getting six points yesterday or five and a half, wouldn't have mattered. They cover.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Let's go to the New York football Giants with Jamis Winston as their quarterback, traveling to Detroit to take on the Lions. Lions favored by 10. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? Ten points seems like a bunch. Jackson Dart is out, so we got JMO playing. me the Lions minus 10. Leporta did get surgery today and he will be not out for the season
Starting point is 01:47:32 for sure yet, but it's going to be tough for him to get back. If you guys would like to know what the sports books think of Jackson Dart and James Winston since the Jackson Dart news, the line has shot up to 12 and a half or 13. Wow. Jackson Darts were three points. Apparently. Yeah, and Kavon, Tibado and Adipo are our best corner were also ruled out. So basically nobody's coming back so if there was any optimism at all got extinguished this morning that's awesome congrats foxy yeah and add up to all of this the lions after a loss 13 and o against the spread boys all right i'll take the lines as well jets bouts more ravens we see lamar jackson super pumped about being on instagram lives with marlin humphrey and such he's their favorite by
Starting point is 01:48:17 13 and a half taking on the jets who are going with t mobile as quarterback just because coach glenn wants to a j who do you like how do you like it man i like it man i like the Ravens to win, but I did not like 13.5, so give me the Jets. I'll take the Ravens minus 13.5. Feels like it's some massive spreads this weekend. 13 and a half going into Nashville to Seattle Seahawks. Sixty-nine percent of the money is on the Seattle Seahawks. I'll take the Seattle Seahawks as well. You get them at 12 and a half. Bam. Perfect. We'll take him there. New England Patriots travel to Cincinnati. I show speed will be the ruler of the jungle. 73% of the bets are
Starting point is 01:48:53 on the Patriots minus 6. Conman, what are we hearing? What are we learning? Kisham Booty, the deep ball threat for New England, he will be back. Still up in the air about Ramandre Stevenson. But aside from that, the real question of the game is who's starting at QB for the Bengals? They haven't said if Burrow is
Starting point is 01:49:09 or not. He did take first team reps yesterday. Flacco taking second team reps. So kind of still up in the air there, but feel good either way, just because the Bengals can't block anybody and they can't stop a cold. Okay. So it sounds like you love the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:49:25 I love the Patriots as well. Give me the New England Patriots and Vrable going into Cincinnati and covering six. Can we get that at five and a half maybe? No, no, no. Six is actually the best. I got the Patriots as well here, Pat. Okay, let's go to the Vikings, Green Bay Packers, the NFC North. Are they about to get a little bit of nine on the Lambo?
Starting point is 01:49:45 Ty, your thoughts? Josh Jacobs potentially a game time decision. He basically said, hey, if it's up to me, I'm going to go. but we'll see that Flores defense against a Packers' offensive line who's been kind of dog shite all year. So it should be very interesting. Obviously, Josh Jacobs is the key here, though. Josh Jacobs obviously don't love watching that last week.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Jordan loved fresh off a big-time play. Give me the Minnesota Vikings plus six in Green Bay, AJ. In Green Bay, give me the Packers at minus six. Are you sure, Pat? Pittsburgh. What? Just checking in. I just wasn't sure if you saw any of the memes going around on the internet or anything.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Yeah, look, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and... Nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, give me that. Pittsburgh Steelers, Chicago Bears. Steve loves the Steelers and the under. Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers going into Chicago. I'll go to the Chicago Bears.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Give me the Chicago Bears minus 200. Give me the Pittsburgh. AJ, who do you like? I like the Steelers. Stanford Steve seems so passionate about this. I just want to let everyone know. Aaron Rogers is 24 and 5 against Chicago Bears, 64 touchdowns and 10 receptions. All right.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Okay, so I'll take Aaron Rogers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in Chicago. Indianapolis Colts at the Chiefs. Colts are getting 3.5 and 58% of the bets. That's crazy. That is crazy the Colts. Yeah. Are getting 58% of the bets against the Chiefs and getting 3.5 points. I like the Colts.
Starting point is 01:51:17 AJ, who do you like? I like the Colts as well. Oh, yes. Dan Jones, good to go. And Charverius Ward. Come off the by week, right? Yeah. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Don't love that he had a fibula coming off the by week. I don't know what that even means. That's a big word. Don't like any of it with Daniel Jones. Jacksonville Jaguars, Arizona Cardinals. Liam Cohen favored by three heading into Arizona. They've been getting blown out because they've been starting terribly. Who do you like?
Starting point is 01:51:41 How do you like it? I like Jacksonville Jags. I think Trevor Lawrence has a day here, minus two and a half. I will take it. I'll take them a two. and a half as well. Cleveland Browns playing to Las Vegas Raiders. Browns defense versus the Raiders offense. That might be overscoring in of itself. I like the Cleveland Browns getting four going into Las Vegas with Shador Sanders at the start. How about you, AJ?
Starting point is 01:52:01 Yep. Give me the Browns and Shador on this one. Philadelphia Eagles favored by three and a half. Crazy. Just somehow. And then on the other side, Dallas Cowboys. Crazy. Everything that goes on in that place. This is the battle of controversy in the NFC East. Eagles taking on the Dallas Cowboys. Eagles favored by three and a half going into Jerry World. AJ, who do you like? You know what? I like the Dallas Cowboys here. I think their defense is playing better than they were early, so I will take him here. Me too. Falcons Saints in the NFC South. Falcons getting two and a half going into New Orleans. Give me them, AJ Hawk with Kurt Cousins a quarterback. Yeah. Give me the Falcons as well. And then Sunday
Starting point is 01:52:42 night football, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Baker Mayfield, travels back to the place that may be saved his entire career to Los Angeles Rams. Matthew Stafford on an MVP run. Baker Mayfield might be the MVP by the end of this thing. Rams favored by 7. 67% of the public bets on the Buccaneers getting a touchdown and an extra point. AJ, who do you like? I like both these teams, but I like the L.A. Rams here to cover this one. Six and a half, I will take it. I will take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers plus six and a half Rams to get a win on Sunday night football. and that is the entire Sunday slate. That is AJ and I making our picks.
Starting point is 01:53:20 We're not saying we're seeing it perfectly, so please do not ride blindly alongside of us, but what we do want you to do is have the greatest weekend of your life. Football is about to show up in a huge way. Tell your friends and family you love them. Holidays are right around the corner. Meaningful football is happening,
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Starting point is 01:53:51 Feel like we really got that one, boys. Yeah. You got it. You got it. I had to see if this was a good smoking balcony. Sure. Looks like it. I mean, do most stadiums have a smoking balcony? It's the presidents. I don't know if the president's just smoking. You know, this is like the president's suite up here. I don't know. If I was, I mean, they got a fool.
Starting point is 01:54:14 This is definitely smokers. So that's like an outdoor patio to the suite? Is that what it is? Yeah, suites in there. Okay. So right behind Gump here. Right behind Gumpi there is the suite, you know. So like if you...
Starting point is 01:54:27 Is that where Mike Foss was sitting? Yeah, where the Foss was in the suite? McFiss still in there? Oh. Cracking schools. He's sitting back. I don't love that, you know. Do the windows open into the presidential suite?
Starting point is 01:54:40 Not these ones, no. Which once again leads me to... Yeah, and there's, yeah, barcode just found a package. of Marlboro Sigs over here. Yep, there you have it. Just as we thought, just as we thought. Okay, so Gumpf, why don't you come on over here? Boys, we can't thank you enough.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Travel out here was crazy. I mean, it was a long time. Yeah. It was a hell of a week. AJ, thank you for traveling over to Indy, brother. There's some fog in Ohio, and I know, I drove by a super foggy this morning. Two-hour fogg delay, so it doesn't happen very often. Indiana, yeah, super foggy too, right boys?
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yeah, big time. Yeah. This is Travis Kelsey's flannel. And since the coach are playing the Chiefs this weekend, I figured I'd give them a little shout out after the coach ruin their season. Yeah. It has some fur on it on the outside, but it's comfortable on the inside. He's got a good line with, I think, American Eagle.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I think it's who Travis is doing his stuff. This is awesome. It is very, very nice. I just want to show a little respect. Gumpy, great to be back in Oregon again. Yeah, Eugene. Beautiful. It is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:55:44 It is. Some good shots. Especially whenever you can see this stuff. You know, he couldn't see stuff for a while. Now it's all kind of coming together. Let's take this. Yeah, it looks great fully. There's Foss.
Starting point is 01:55:53 You see him on, wait, you don't see him because I didn't cut over there. Hey. That's a new haircut. Yes. Boss, really handling your business. I really love whenever he handles his business in this business the way he handles his business. The, uh, I don't know how he white balance this one. Honestly, it's been, uh, can you figure the, uh, can you figure the, uh,
Starting point is 01:56:15 Can you get the gump one to be able to... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there it is, there it is, there it is. Boys, you should see where we're at right now. Obviously, it's right behind us, but like... The fucking... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 01:56:32 That's the one right there. As we embark on a massive weekend here in Eugene, Oregon, the college football world will look on to see if the ducks will scout. SCO to the college football playoff. Or if Lincoln, Riley, and USC, old Pac-12 rivals will come into this green, majestic land and get a huge win and send Dan Lannning into ducks in a downward spiral as USC remains supreme and goes on a run. Or the ducks win by 30. There's a chance.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Scoot ducks. There's a go, dogs. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. So, you're going to Togo tomorrow, or how's it work, just the people come to game day? Who's doing it? I think it's, I think they're doing it for the game. So, like, the stadium, like, the whole stadium or the students?
Starting point is 01:57:42 I think you're trying to break a record from my understanding I think it's trying to have the world's large Togobore It's great Toga Toga
Starting point is 01:57:50 Toga Tuga Tegga Tegu Teg Can't believe Stanford Steve's Hizman
Starting point is 01:57:57 That was crazy Chairman I love Yeah He said in the Big Ten championship Sane and Fernando
Starting point is 01:58:04 are going to play like shite Yeah We have a defensive bow Yeah That will be a Defensive Battle Yeah but Matt
Starting point is 01:58:09 Patricia hasn't had to see Fernando Mendozi yet All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, boys. Great work this week, boys on a stage upper. Behind the glass, great work, boys. Great work, boys. Graphic design, boys, GDB's, good work out there.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Zit, Mitt, great work, boys. There you go, boys. How a lot of new things this week at the Thunderdome. We're trying to enjoy it all. Obviously, we're incredibly lucky that football season has happening and we get to talk about it all season. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Have the greatest
Starting point is 01:58:47 weekend of all time. Hell yeah. Yeah. Great time. Money. That was unbelievable. Team on me. Team on three. Wow. Yes. Hell yeah. That's my I couldn't say it better my fucking self.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Thank you.

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