The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1459 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Theo Von, Will Compton, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys are joined by 3x Super Bowl Champion, and former Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians to recap last night’s Monday Night Football game that was a bit of a stinker between the Panthers and 49ers, and wrap up week 12 as we look ahead to week 13. Joining the progrum is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL analyst/QB Guru, Dan Orlovsky to chat about last night’s game, his thoughts on JJ McCarthy and what’s next for the Vikings, and why he isn’t in love with the Eagles offense right now. Next, comedian, host of This Past Weekend, Theo Von joins the show to chat about his SEC roots, what he thinks Lane Kiffin should ultimately do, and how Vanderbilt is trending upward in Nashville. Later, 9 year NFL veteran, host of Bussin’ with the Boys and ESPN analyst Will Compton joins the show to chat about the Iowa/Nebraska rivalry and George Kittle’s comments post game to him last night, as well as some of the things he’s looking forward to in the NFL on Thanksgiving and this weekend. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome. On this BA Day, Tuesday, November 25th, 2025. This sports program begins now. Football! Head! It's magical. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who coach football for 47 years. That's our coach, Coach BA!

Yeah, BIA! We'll see the Super Bowl champion. The Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything, DB, Good D, Bad D, and the NFL match. and the NFL matchup show, which you can see on ESPN E.O. Show. Dary St. Buller. And live from Hammer. Dot, Todd, is AP Tone. Now, Tone, I have a question for you, pal,

because last night's Monday night football matchup featured two teams in the NFC. One that was kind of on their way, potentially about to lead the NFC South and the Carolina Panthers, and the other was a team that we've seen in the Super Bowl, a team that we expect to be great, who's had tough injuries.

Obviously, there are a lot of key positions, but with Brock Purdy back kind of doing their thing, there was a chance that people would think hey maybe the Niners are going to kill the Carolina Panthers. And this morning, I woke up, saw a tweet from before the game. ESPN bet still a thing.

Yeah. Right? Still happening. Less in a week, buddy. Still happening. Still a thing. They put out a tweet that was like 70% of the bets were on the Carolina Panthers

to beat the San Francisco 49ers. And I, as somebody yesterday who picked Carolina Panthers plus seven and a half, had no idea that people were actually thinking the Carolina Panthers were going to win. If I would have known, that particular stat from any of the sports books, I think I would have won a different way. Instead, Carolina Panthers' defense says everything they possibly can, okay?

Brock Party has three interceptions early in that game. The Carolina offense just wasn't able to really get anything done, and Bryce had a couple of his own turnovers in entirety, and then inevitably in the end, Christian McCaffrey continues to be Christian McCaffrey. George Kiddell has a massive game, and the San Francisco 49ers not only win but cover on Monday night football. Now the Carolina Panthers questions are going to continue. Is Bryce a guy?

Is Bryce not a guy? Can Bryce win? win? Are they a team that's sustainable for success? What are they? And how does he throw that pick? Does he not know the corner is literally sitting there on first and goal? We can't be given out away to San Francisco 49ers. I think we're pumped about what Coach Sala being back with the Niners. He looked happy. Remember we saw him at the Jets. He lost his soul. Now he's back out there having the time of his life. Brant Boyer, special teams coordinator. He was with the Jets for a long time as well. He's smiling on the sideline. Obviously, Shanahan has

Brock doing his thing. But there was a conversation about the Panthers maybe being for real. last night they were going to be able to say that. Tone, why did I not know that allegedly 70% of the people were picking the Carolina Panthers? Was this real? What was this? I did some research. So yesterday on our graphics or whatever, we had 62, 61% of the bets on the San Francisco 49ers because that's where we got our information from. When I double-checked that information, 57% of the bets were on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game based on our information.

I checked a couple other places around 54, 55% on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game. I went and I reached out to some people. So there are 10 people still using ESP and Bet. Seven of them are a group of friends out of Carolina. They said, you know what? Panthers tonight. That's our, that's tonight. About $150,000.

So a group of friends in Carolina put on the Panthers last night on ESPN bet. Three other people, just random people still using it, who are just living in the dark, went on the Niners. So that 70% on ESPN bet was true. There's just only 10 people still using it. So it was like not a lot of information. Still, you said. I think that was kind of the problem for the entirety of it all.

But ESPN putting that stat out this morning was a little alarming to me. Because if I would have known, that was the chaos. I'd be like, okay, we're guaranteeing that the Niners win. No, obviously there's other stats coming out to saying the Niners were getting a majority of the bets, which would make sense. Debutt, your takeaway from last night's game. Brock has obviously a terrible start. I mean, there was a couple that were just not good. at all. Obviously, if the Carolina Panthers are going to beat the Niners, you're going

to have to turn the ball over. Like, that is what you're going to have to do. They did that, never really able to take advantage of it. This Niners' defense, even without Warner and Bosa, two of their highest paid and maybe best players in all of football, they seemingly are still able to be very stout defense. What's your takeaway about the Niners? And can they go on a run without Warner and Bosa in its entirety? I think they can't go on a run. I'm a little concerned about Brock Purdy. I don't know. It seems like since coming back and he never had the strongest arms. I don't really see the juice in the arm. or in his ball. That second interception of Jason Holm was pretty terrible. The first one I think was a

great play by JC. So kind of concerned about that. But this game kind of stunk for a while was some great defensive plays, some ball hawks. But I was one star and that was Christian McCaffrey. Like what he's doing this year, what he's doing for San Francisco 49 is 31 touches last night over 140 total yards, you know, now leading the league and carries in in receptions, which is unbelievable, unreal stats. So he was the one kind of shining star in this night. T-Mack, he had a nice touchdown late in the game where you thought it could be a game. But I wanted to see more from Bryce, wanted to see more from Brock and his offense. But C-Mack and then George Kittle, obviously, being and doing what George Kittle does, he was great as well.

So it wasn't a great game, but a big-time win at the end of the day for the San Francisco 49 is to move to 8 and 4 now. Yeah, great win for them. Obviously, everything about Christian McCaffrey especially, you can go through his, you know, family heritage. You know, his dad, professional athlete, mom, professional athlete, I believe, grandma, grand. grandpa professional athlete, I believe uncle's professional athlete, I believe great uncles and great aunts, Olympians. Whenever you talk about like a human being created in a lab, Christian McCaffrey is one of those guys and has been since he's gotten into the league since he got to Stanford. Three-year player at Stanford, they were watching, talking about his stats.

He went to high school in Colorado. They did the years. And then we saw him at Stanford and he looks the exact same. His body looks the exact same. We're running the same way. Three years at Stanford obviously comes out. Then he goes Carolina Panthers. Then now he's over San Francisco 49ers. As soon as he gets traded from the Carolina Panthers. And we didn't talk about it being a revenge game against Carolina Panthers, which I don't know if he has any heat with them or not, but he's probably pretty happy to get out of there.

Well, and then as soon as he goes to San Fran, they make him the focal point of the offense. And not just the focal point of the offense. He was throwing touchdowns, running touchdowns, and catching touchdowns as soon as he got to the San Francisco 49ers. So you're talking about a perfect match. Now we're seeing him healthy. What do you think of the San Francisco 49ers team, BA? And Brock Purdy's turnovers, there's a bunch of Hembo stats here now with interceptions.

HEMBO put up a couple of stats together and a couple of graphics together. Basically, the NFL's average of interceptions is blue lines, kind of going down as the season goes, or as the years go on. Brock Purdy, 2024 last year, he's sod he won a turn baller more than anybody else. He's going directly up if you see that. And then there's another stat about his seven interceptions that he has here. Brock Petty has thrown seven interceptions on 131 attempts this season, the average of which has traveled 19.3 yards down the field. So is it inaccuracy? Is it tough decisions?

and what do you think about the Niners going forward and maybe getting Brock back on path? Yeah, I think Kyle Shatahan is doing a great job, especially Robbins Sala with the defense. They call them the young Niners now because nobody knows any names. They're all new guys. And to lose that many star players

and still be up there, that's fantastic coaching job. I have big concerns with Brock Purdy. He does not have the strongest arm. And as you see those interceptions at the 19-yard level, because he's got that little bloop ball. and corners undercut him last night they had to be super accurate and lead his guys all the

he has to be he's in anticipation throwing Peyton He's not No I'm not saying he's paid stronger That was the style of throw the Peyton head He's throwing that thing early Before a guy turns around He's thrown to a spot and they have rep that

I mean I got a chance during the lockout To go watch some of the workouts That were happening at different like universities that Peyton was putting together And watching these wide receivers run the same route 50 straight times like hey we're going to do this 50 times away. And we're not just talking about receiver. We're talking like Reggie Wayne. Awesome. We're talking about the goats. Hey, we need to be on the same exact page here.

That's why sometimes if they were able to get the wide receiver. Rewrite it throws it through it. Yeah, a little bit. It would mess up everything. But that was what Peyton did for his entire career. Like, Peyton's going to throw it to an exact spot and that guy's going to get there. It's precision. It's anticipation. And it's also repping and repping and reping. Do we think that maybe pretty injury? Maybe not as much reps with his guys? Or do you think he's off in his delivery of the anticipation balls? I think both, yeah, the injury, the toe does affect you. But again, I'm going back to that arm. And these are the same receivers he's been playing with the last couple of years.

You know, this is a different crew. Pearson, Juan Dennings, those guys are different than IUC and Debo and those guys. So I think they're asking more of him down the field, and that can be dangerous. I hope Brock's able to figure it out because it was just a week ago where we were like, wait a minute, Brock parties all the way back. Then he runs in his Carolina Panthers defense, which I don't think anybody gives any credit. too. Once again, we were kind of saying that all day yesterday. It's like, hey, I feel like we've covered this team a little bit closer because we've actually had a little bit of heat with this team because the way we've talked about them over the past. They're different than

they were just a year ago. They're different than they were two years ago. And then last night it appeared as if the defense was ready. Yeah. Defense was ready for the moment. Offense not as much. Is that just running into a tough San Francisco young Niners defense, you think, it just doesn't make any sense. Rico Dowdell's kind of been there kind of bell cow these last few weeks and he gets six carries. I mean, I don't know what the hell we're doing. It's kind of reminded me of when G&T had two carries going up against the Denver Broncos. And they started the second half, the Carolina Panthers, and right away, Dowell rips off a 15-yard run. So that didn't make any sense whatsoever to me.

I mean, we talk about how important it is for quarterbacks to have a running game, a quarterback like Bryce Young, who kind of needs that play action. Granted, he has a play action on the goal line, can run the ball in, basically walk it in and decides to throw an in. Insane. Just ridiculous. So I don't know what the hell Carolina was doing, but personally, I have a lot more respect for Carolina. You tell me before the season starts

that they go into San Fran in prime time and only lose 20 to 9. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a victory as far as looking at Carolina as a whole. But yeah, the Niners' defense are still flying around them. Panthers being 500 too. I mean, they were one game, if they win that game, they take the lead in the NFC South.

Nobody would have expected that on this Carolina Panthers team. I expected more out of them last night, though. I expected more of the Carolina Panthers just because I was excited for them. I assume Panthers fans and what's his name on the mic? Oh, shit. About $150,000.

Yeah. He's awesome. He's got a little Bojangles check too, which I respect. And also did a Bojangles commercial and it wasn't corny. Nobody like didn't say this guy jumps short. He like got real views out of that. So hopefully Bojangles will give him another bag because we need, maybe they give him another $150,000. You know, maybe they'd give him so he can buy season tickets, you know, and make sure he'd get himself a car and all the.

Maybe buy a Carolina Panthers or something. There you go. I mean, that's what he needs, especially with the ability to turn it up. The Sir Per? No, Sir Per is the mascot. Shoot. Luke Combs, also a mascot for the Carolina Panthers. He was on with the Mannings last night, having a good time.

I mean, they were having a blast. We all were thinking that the Carolina Panthers are going to have a good night. Instead, the San Francisco 49ers go back to exactly what we thought they could be. Christian McCaffrey tears it up. George Kittle has a massive night in the defense with Bob Solis flying around. Congrats to the Niners getting a huge win. We're very pumped for them going forward. Can they win a Super Bowl?

I do not believe so Can they win the Super Bowl? No Can they win the Super Bowl? No Can they win the Super Bowl? I'll say yes then Let's go to Hammer

Dot, dot, dot Can the Sample 6-4-49ers win the Super Bowl? Absolutely not. A lot of negativity on this Tuesday after the 90s. Why make us do that? I mean, we don't have to go to the Super Bowl. That's your fault, and that's your fault. You've got to be honest.

And your fault. I like where your head's at. Why not? Why not? McCaffley's unbelievable. I mean, if you ask me if they can win their division, I'd say absolutely not. But if they can win the Super Bowl, hell yeah. Yeah, because now we're putting them directly against the Rams,

which would certainly be in the conversation if they win the Super Bowl, because literally yesterday we were saying, Who's League? Rams League. And then Brock throws three interceptions, and the next day we're supposed to say, yeah, yeah, you still do it against that. And that's the Panthers defense. Panthers defense, good.

Rams defense might be a little bit better. We should see down the stretch. We're seeing, you know, we're seeing Nick Bose up in the suite, Fred Warner. still on crutches. Like, when you, like, we've seen them lose superboats with those guys on the field, so, you know, I can't see them. I mean, it's crazy they even have eight wins with those guys off the field. Like, legitimately, it's insane.

They're still eight and four and not six and six or even worse. Yeah, I'm thankful this is in a San Francisco 49er season where they just kind of punt on the year, which has happened with them over the years for whether it's an injury or just not playing well or injuries. So this year feels like they're in it. I believe in them still. I believe in Brock, too. He's just getting back.

And Mac. It's never, ever forget it. And maybe if Macville. has to step in there, he'll be able to do his thing. You know, we've had a couple different situations pop up here during this season we haven't liked. Okay, we've had guys Hawthew in some of his face.

We all agreed that, nope, this cannot become a thing. And it kind of has. This has kind of become a thing. More than we've seen, Jamar Chase obviously apologizes to everybody except for Jalen Ramsey and his apology he puts out yesterday. Nobody was very appreciative of

that, but he put out an apology to the Steelers, to the fans, to his fans, to the Bengals fans. Everybody but Jalen basically. And I like that. That's Jalen Ramsey football, I think. Anytime he comes into a division, there's going to be some wide receiver who's going to get after. Nobody's happy with Jamar Chase's apology. Nobody's happy that Jamar Chase is spitting in people's face either because that's a big time conversation. We had a college kid this past weekend doing a Colorado State quarterback. He's a quarterback from Colorado State. He gets blocked and he spits in somebody's

face. And then he runs like a coward. I mean, that is. Oh. Oh. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. He gets out of there, obviously. So we would like to put an end and be on the side of like, hey, can't be spitting each other's face. Nope. That's a guarantee fight. What we did not expect was there be some dong punching. We did not expect a big time dick punch. We did not expect a left hand to the kit in the middle of prime time football.

Four plays left in the game, two plays before the kneeled down. This thing's about all she wrote. Moore, who was the NFC player of the week in week nine against the Green Bay Packers, an absolute stud of a player for the Carolina Panthers safety punches Juan Jennings right in the penis. I mean, we watch it in slow motion, multiple different angles. There is a conversation. I think he was trying to hit him in a gut.

I think he was below the belt for sure. And the side angle that you see, it's hard not to think that somebody that's as athletic as he as he wasn't trying to punch that guy right in the balls. Now, I grew up in the generation of ball tagging and ball tapping. If you were to be taking a photo in our era, in our generation, there's a chance.

Right before that thing happens, somebody's six in a boom, right to the... So I'm not saying that I have not potentially bag tag the guy. On that note, it's never been vicious. It's never been a fight. It's always been ha, ha, ha, ha, and I'm not the only one.

Dong shots and spits in the face. What are our thoughts on where the current state of what is happening on a field is? And Debutt, what do you think about this exchange with Joanne and Mori? I mean, I can't have it. They had a lot of heat kind of during the fourth quarter in the fourth quarter. Even on that play, I think we have the wide copy of all 22 shot of what happened on that play.

So Juan Jennings kind of comes in late and hits Morick in the back. No, this is the other play where Morick knocks him out. He kind of tries a leg whip him. So they got the heat. But actually a play before that, he comes in and hits him in the back. So which is kind of, you can say, a cheap shot. Absolutely. You standing around a pile.

Receiver comes and hit you from behind while you're not paying attention. Yeah, you may get you. him a little bit. That is a couple notches lower than a spit in the face to me. Like you can never have the spitting in the face shit. I think all... Is that a cast on his hands too? He's got a cast, so that's a little extra hard. The dick punching that happens a little bit more, but this right here, all of it is Bush League. I hate that it's kind of coming back. I don't know what's happening with this generation, but this has never been a thing. B. Ad, I know you coached for 47 years. You can probably count on one hand how many times you had to deal with, you know,

somebody's spitting in somebody's face. I don't think I ever did coach him. I mean, in my day, going back when I was a kid, you know, that just didn't happen. The rest of that stuff, just let's go fight. But this stuff has gotten totally out of hand. Sportsmanship has taken it to a whole new low level. I think so. Like, I genuinely, and now, Morg, we think he's a great player.

And Joanne Jennings, if you watch literally from the first snap, I think until now, like the energy is different. I mean, he scores that touchdown. He does a gritty with a gear shift. And it was an incredible innovation to the gritty that I. have not seen. I thought it was actually pretty spectacular. But Joanne Jennings is a guy who's going to hit. He's going to be around a pile. He's going to block. He's like a perfect San Francisco 49ers wide receiver.

And his energy, especially, I mean, look, eh, eh, eh, I mean, it is, it was actually a pretty nasty. But his energy throughout the entire night is obviously one that would get under people's skin. Morrigan, incredible player. In primetime, boys, we can't be punch each other in the dicks. It just can't be happening. If this is one o'clock game and there's 13 different games on? Let it fly. We're not going to be talking about it. God, this cannot become.

Football is now the game that is starting to become. Obviously, we are a game of integrity. We are a game of competitive stamina. We are a game of moxie. We are a game of talent and skill. But some people are starting to say, seeing a lot of spitting faces and balls punching over there in football. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's happening in your sport, too. But we need to stop that in our sport. I don't think that become a thing. But the heat of the moment, obviously guys get pretty excited, especially what you wanted more. And there's been big-time shots all game. your team's about to lose by 11 this game's about over one more final to hell with this guy we just need to get that thing in his stomach we need to make sure that that is not in the uh the kit and caboodle

yeah when you see the reaction from jennings you knew something like that had to happen before that that led to him reacting like that and a lot of people who probably haven't been between the lines but i always it's a violent game it's a barbaric sport things like this probably always have you always hear the stories about what happens on the bottom of piles and shit with fumbles but like the dig punching, the spitting, all the, even like cut blocks, like, wide receivers ds, if we're 30 yards away from the play, like, don't cut block me. Like, I'm dropping my elbow in the back of your neck. Like, if you do, like, it's just certain things where you don't cross the line.

You're not trying to intentionally hurt other players, professionals, their livelihood. So, I mean, I get Jennings reaction, but with the block that came before the punch, I also kind of understand morgue a little bit too. Yeah, I mean, there's certainly a little bit of heat. Okay, let's just make sure we go on a continue. you have a great season, and let's just make sure if we're casted up, we're punching in the helmet, okay, or the shoulder pads. Or let's just wait until afterwards, boys.

Let's see each other in the tunnel. We'll just go ahead and make a circle like it's hockey and do your thing. But we love that the game is in a place that it is. We just can't be doing the bullshit, okay? And I was a punter, so I don't need to be speaking for anybody, but I will say as avid fan of the league, spitting in the face is just not something we can have. And then dick punch it cannot just become a normal thing.

Because you're seeing this Colorado State kid. and there was another college kid earlier. It's like, do you think they naturally do that if it wasn't for Jalen or something? I was like, no, everything kind of falls in line with what the NFL is doing. We have to understand that. I think the NFL understands that.

This dude's spitting and then running for his life afterwards. It's like, uh... That ain't football. They don't do that. He's so soft. Once again, in the moment, obviously... That's not even like a dirty hit or anything. He's just...

Like, if he decletes that guy and he's not looking, okay, sure, it's still not acceptable. but like that's that's as Bush League as it comes it's like but you guy can't block you so you're going to spit in his face that's bullshit well and then Josh Allen said it during his uh jersey retirement of Wyoming something about it sucks to suck thank God I'm not a CSU ram or something and this guy does that on that same weekend it's like yeah I agree I'll tell you what count me out as a CSU person I'm out on their entire team and uh not that I was ever in but that type of stuff is kind of how it goes I don't like what they're saying about Josh

not at all it's messed up and i'm a patriots fan and i would be the one to pile on with the hailey steinfeld whatever the hell her name is her fans but what they're doing to him on the internet is uncalled for because if he's ugly what the hell am i and i can't live in the world where josh allen is being called bad mean things by these fans where they don't know anything about josh allen's a sweet boy he's he's a nice guy he comes on the show all the time and he says nice stuff he's also a funny guy he had the whole subway thing and in the past to the subway thing was 9696 because 6969 was too obvious that's awesome why why are these fans these these people his his wife's fans don't know anything about Josh out they can't just be

running I don't like it bumming their guns about and we need to start checking where these accounts are from yeah yeah we need to start checking where these accounts are from I think we're able to do that now we would like to let the Haley Steinfeld fans know that we are a fan of Haley Steinfeld now I do not necessarily understand everything that she's been a part of. I wish I did know more about her because she is now a part of a football family. She's married to our MVP. But you guys need to know, he's a good one.

Oh, yeah. Hey, Josh is a good, this is a good one. Six-five, laser rocket arm. Hold the door for you. All the time. Cowboy, rancher out there. They're saying some other things about him. They're saying some other things about him.

It's like, has that been confirmed or is it maybe the other one? Yeah. Yeah, so. Community note. Yeah, we need the. I'm in a dark here. They're calling him ugly.

I don't know what's going on. They're calling him a bad guy and ugly. That's what they're saying. I read a tweet, had a lot of views. A lot of them. Six million views. A real views? Well, that's a whole other conversation.

Check a lot of case. We need to start doing that one. Are these bots? But on that note, it's a shame whenever a beautiful woman ends up with an ugly piece of trash, basically, is what they said. And it was Josh Allen and her hitting her, the hats. The hat kiss. And I'm like, can we not just. be happy that these two superstars have found love

in a hopeless place. Being super popular and a celebrity is not easy to find somebody. When you're the MVP of the NFL, it's not easy to be in any relationship. Haley, I assume that throughout her journeys it's been hard of, hey, this is good. We need to stop trying to tear this down. And we'd like to let Josh Allen know, I think you're

handsome. You're not Riley Green, but I think you're handsome. No one is. Or Drake, man. Drake, May kind of does look like he's 17 years old, 18 years old. Yeah, he's just got that young flur, man. I know what you're talking about. And it is crazy. the Tom Brady shit.

Oh, yeah. I mean, talk about jaw lines. I put his up against AJ Hawks. We're not putting that tweet up. That was the tweet that I saw, though, and I don't like it. There's multiple of them. That's the problem, too. It's like, you see one, and it's like, okay, fine. Even though the one has six million views, fine, it's just one. Then you see a couple others with other

multiple million views. This one's got 14, 13.13.3 million views. Yeah. That cannot be the way you're speaking about our MVP. It can't be real. That's not the real world. You know, these people see blood in the wall. You know what Josh Allen said many times how she's changed his life for the better. She always talks about how supportive he is of her career and all that kind of stuff.

What do you want this guy to do? You want him to retire and become her butler? That ain't going to happen. I think they're saying he needs to get plastic surgery on his face. Well, that ain't going to happen. I don't like that at all. That ain't going to happen because, you know what she does? You know what?

She's kissed many ugly guys in movies, many. Pitch Perfect 3. Boom. You know? And I'm not going to go out there and throw shade. on other actors, because that's not my game. We don't want to call anybody. Yeah, exactly. We just don't like the R-MVP.

He's being talked about the way he's. He's played his football. He's at his nose broken about 150 times. What do you want from him, okay? Maybe he doesn't have the picturesque perfect face. He's a pretty good-looking guy. Not Riley Green. Again.

Or a drag-man. Nobody is. That mustache. Oh, my God. His accent? Yeah. The way he throws a football. Oh, guitar?

Yeah. We can't be, we can't. Riley is the one. He is. Right now. Don't throw Riley Green in there because what happens if these Haley heads haven't even seen Riley Green

and then they look them up and they're like Exactly Yeah, you're right We can't be throwing those two in the same category Joining us now is a man who's just as handsome as Riley Green Dan Olovsky Yeah Yo

Go to see you Dano Thank you for joining us Got your playboy What's going on What is the You always wear his bunny What is? Bod Bunny

Psycho Bunny? Psycho Bunny the hell's that that's lit dude that's super lit thank you what is that that's a brand it's a clothing company hell yeah dude it looks super cool psychos man can you show that again

you see the crossbones at the ball yeah that's not very appropriate no because it's a killer bunny yeah that's not very appropriate well it's got rabies actually this bunny's got rabies oh come and get you that's why it's a killer all right dan let's talk about being a killer Brock Purdy, turning a ball over, potentially a killer. Instead, they still win and cover. Please tell me that Carolina Panthers could have won that game.

And also, please tell me if the San Francisco 49ers with how they are, obviously a lot of Mississippiases can go win the Super Bowl, because B.A said no, D-Butt said no, Ty said no, Tone said no. Connor's the only one who said maybe. And I think the reason is we saw the Rams play and then we see the Niners play. Rams seemingly on a different planet than everybody else in the NFC at this. exact moment. Niners, can they keep up? And what do you think about Brock going forward? Yeah, Rams not on a planet, a different planet than everybody else. I would be absolutely

shocked if the NFC rep is in L.A., Seattle, or Philly. And more than likely, one of those NFC West teams, I do not think that San Francisco can win the Super Bowl. I just don't think they have enough healthy bodies on defense in their front seven. So, Brock, I would tell you that If you look at the interceptions and why they happen, Brock has always been a player in his first couple of years that you marveled that how early he threw the football yet down the field. He had this almost unrealistic anticipation where you're sitting there going, how can you cut that ball early or cut that ball from your hands so early down the field and still have it placed perfectly?

The interceptions this season are far too often late. The anticipation is gone. And there's guys that don't have to play with a ton of anticipation. I heard coach talk about this. Stafford's one of them. Josh was certainly won early in his career. Patrick, because they've got these cannons for arms. Brock doesn't.

And so he was playing at such a high level because he played so fast. And the ball came out of his hands so much sooner than the route. kind of established itself. Look, these clips, they're all three hitches. This offense is not built on three hits throws. Coach knows this as well as any... This offense is not built on three hits throws. You get to the top of your drop, that ball's out of your hands,

and if it's not like, watch how many hitches he takes here. One, two, three, three and a half, and then it's late. So am I concerned? Well, yes, because that was the strength of his game, but also at the same time, it's something that, he's shown, that's not necessarily who he is, and it's absolutely correctable.

Okay, and now the Carolina Panthers, they had a huge night ahead of them potentially. They would have took the lead in the NFC South. Now, granted, they're 6 and 6. They were 6 and 5 going in. Nobody could have expected this from the Carolina Panthers. We've actually been following along pretty closely, strictly because we've kind of dogged the Panthers in the past.

So Panthers fans, which there are still some, remember just a couple years ago, there was like 500 fans in the stance for their final game. It felt like it was the worst, obviously the biggest dumpster fire in the entire league is what Carolina felt like. Then they bring in Morgan, they bring in Canales. Tepra kind of goes a little bit more hands off,

but also starts giving back to the community and kind of understanding his position. We've become big fans of this Panthers team. We've also become big fans of Bryce Young. They get all those turnovers. They can't make anything happen on it. We saw Team Max scored touchdown. I'm happy the Irish youths got a chance to say hello

to the primetime audience to score a touchdown. But what do we think about the Carolina Panthers? What do you think about Bryce Young where he's at right now? and maybe what the next couple steps look like for that team. Yeah, number one, last night, the perimeter. The perimeter players did not match the physicality out of San Francisco. And that's really the story of the game. I heard Boston Connor talk about Dowell only had six years.

I think they had 40 snaps. They were terrible on third down. But if you watch the third downs, I don't see there's a lot of protection problem. I don't see there's a lot of schematic problem. They just physically got out-tuffed at the perimeter when it comes to ball down field, middle of the route, physicality at the top of route to win. So they just did not match that from San Francisco. The reality is this game came down to two plays for Carolina. The pick down on the one-yard line, inexcusable. Bryce has to see that defender. First and gold. I'm shocked

you through it. I'm shocked. That's just a backside defender. For some reason, Bryce doesn't see him. He doesn't threaten the line. Just run, Bryce, run. Threaten. You're one-on-one with a defensive tackle out in space. And so I'm floored that he throws that football. I cannot defend just right. If he runs there, he's got a guy out in front. He's got an offensive lineman out in front. Just scream, go, go, go, go. See that guy's waiting for him because he doesn't want to go down. Just scream, go. So can't make that throw. And then there's a third and four down. I think it's the second quarter. It's third and goal from the four yard line. San Francisco shows all out pressure. He throws it to the perimeter and it's one on one on the perimeter and San Francisco makes

the tackle. I didn't love that. play call because what are we doing versus zero we're just going to throw a swing screen especially with there's no pick there's no traffic for that backer to run through and you can't obviously one yard line interception third and goal I'd love to see a ball go to tet McMillan or team hack in that situation so I'm disappointed with the lack of physicality by the perimeter players savior leggett he's got to earn the right to be on the field more Jalen Coker who I believe is an undrafted player should not be playing more than Xavier

Leggett, but they are because he's just not meeting what is expected out of him. Well, he gets had a couple good weeks. Earlier in the year, it was pretty bad. It was like, this guy's not a one, or this guy is nowhere near a one. Then he had a couple

big time weeks. Obviously, he had a catch last night, I think, on the sideline and some other stuff. But to your point, he's not prevalent. And I don't think any of us, we all go, we all talk about Irish use down there. Whenever we're talking about who the wide receiver is, we think about T-Mack, the kid out of Arizona, who former volleyball player. Some of his

volleyball highlights are absurd. But they talk about him athletically just being a freak and his catch radius is gigantic. Nobody even really talks about legate other than how sweet his accent is and that he eats squirrels. Correct. Right? That is kind of the conversation. Yeah, and I'd also say this, Pat,

his game has to be physicality. He's not a burner. He's a big, thick, talented, structurally, like, sound dude. You should be a physical presence at the wide receiver position. If you you watch San Francisco to both those guys just push them around. Ted fought back a little bit. I did not feel that from Xavier Leggett. And so I'm walking away. If I'm Carolina,

I'm disappointed with the way that we played on the perimeter physically because we just did not match San Francisco. All right. Enough about Monday night football. Week 12 was awesome. Saw a huge win by Chicago, which obviously in turn is a gigantic loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers. But we saw some shit from Caleb Williams that got us very excited. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, actually a few weeks ago about Caleb Williams and where he was with the Ben Johnson in the offense, and you were optimistic about him. I think he's continuing to take those steps.

What are your thoughts from Caleb Williams right now and how he's operating in this Ben Johnson offense and how you see it going forward? The coach will tell you exactly what he thinks of the player by the plays that he calls. And right now the playbook is wide open in Chicago. And that's a total credit, certainly to the course. quarterback you want to run the football great you want to go hardball play action out of the gun great they can get an empty and throw it on the goal line and he's quick and decisive i think the biggest thing for me deep butt outside of that what i'm just talking about is like the playbook is so wide open they put a

defensive tackle at fullback the other day and ran the football to them they're running the football they're going really good in play action they're building plays in for the yards after catch i believe they went double reverse there's multiple screens here's empty on the go line But I think the one thing that Caleb has grown the most in in the last month in my eyes is if the play is there, quarterback run on fourth down, if the play is there, if the play call is the right one versus the defense, I need you to play on time now. If I design a play and number one is open, I need you to be fast. And like this throws a perfect example of it.

This is, we're calling the play for this defense. we get it, I need you to play fast. That's the one I need you to play. Yeah, I need you to play quick on. And so I think that's where his greatest growth is. I would imagine as a coach, if you call play call and you're anticipating something and you get it and the quarterback doesn't do what your coach to do,

I can't imagine how frustrating for a coach that would be. He's not doing that anymore. And that's why I've kind of said he's really gone from a problem solver or a problem creator to a problem solver. He's not really creating problems for himself anymore. more. Yesterday he was problem creating, you know, but creating was what he was drafted upon because he could make magic happen, you know. So then whenever he has that style of offense, and then we have the turnover early in Chicago, and it doesn't seem to go well, and Ben Johnson's

this hard-nosed guy, an accountability-driven guy, and Caleb is exactly who, you know, we've learned Caleb to kind of be. I thought they weren't going to gel. I thought they weren't going to mesh because he was very much a timing guy and just felt like personality-wise and football while-wise, this couldn't be a worse fit for each other. And now it seems like they're perfect for each other. And now that Ben Johnson is seemingly building trusting Caleb, he's going to be able to do all the Jared Goff shit with him eventually, but also add Caleb shit in there? Is there like a way for Ben Johnson to add Caleb being Caleb into an offense, or is that all off-script stuff? Yeah, I think it's more off-script. You'll see situational. You saw the fourth and one quarterback

play. You could probably do more bootlegs eventually because getting him onto the perimeter. I think you could do a little bit more quarterback run down in the red zone, but the beauty of the offense is we can kind of create so much schematic advantage by the different looks that we can present to you, that we can put you in doubt as a defense. And I just need the quarterback to consistently hit that open receiver. Again, that's kind of for me where as great as growth is. And then, I agree, I did not think they were going to gel this quickly, and that was my concern. Then, hey, defense wins reps too. They get paid. So if the defense does win the rep, we miss a block, we get covered up,

then you can go above and beyond some of those plus plays. That's a beautiful throw. It's on time. Caleb would not make that throw last year. Those past two clips that you have shown, Caleb would not make that throw last year. And so I think that right now Ben's very comfortable. And I would say this. This is one of the – there's probably four offensive lines that I truly trust right now in the NFC

on the backstretch going, making playoff runs. I think Dallas is one. I think L.A. is one. I absolutely say Chicago's one, which is shocking. I think there's a fourth one, my brain, maybe San Francisco. There it is. Yeah. Yeah, and that's really the key here is Chicago's offensive lines become a strength.

Yeah, and I like the Colts also in there, you know? Hey, yeah, the Colts offensive line in there. We need to win a big game, but I do like that. The offensive line is really the indicator on whether or not you're going to be able to win a Super Bowl. But also championship defenses, I think, too. So, you know, I have to have qualifiers in its entirety. Chicago is seemingly always going to have a good defense. even if the offense is the head coach-driven position.

So congrats to Caleb and congrats to Ben. The NFC North looks different all of a sudden. All of a sudden, the Bears are for real. Caleb's going to break all their passing records within the next two years. Okay, for the Chicago Bears' history. For the history of the Chicago Bears, he's going to have all of their records and they're just getting started. They've got another 10 years up into the right as Caleb and Ben,

because he's not going to get plucked away. Ben Johnson's going to be there. So that offense is going to be there. Good news for Caleb on the turnover, potentially. stopping unless they completely go to shite, which it doesn't look like. The Lions with Dan Campbell, we assume, are going to be good in this entirety. The Packers, we assume, are going to be... Lines concerns.

What's that? Lines are concerning. Their offensive lines is not good enough right now. Oh, no. Yeah, no. Going back to the same old lion? Are you saying this year or just like, in general, you don't know if they're going to be able to find it again?

Is it because Ben Johnson was kind of maybe covering up for their offensive line, or is it Noel Ragnall is maybe the big problem with the Detroit Lions' offensive line? is it fixable or is that just you got to deal with it this season type thing? Yeah, I mean, the interior of their offensive line is a concern. It's not good enough if they will not win a Super Bowl with the interior of their offensive line playing

all the year, man. Ragnow's a concern. Yeah, Ragnow's starting to be with ugly head here. This is what I would say is you have a quarterback that when you protect him, he could throw it with anybody. But now the protection has fallen off.

I would tell you, I have no deal with the numbers and statistics and analytics, it looks like a bottom five, bottom seven, pass-protecting offensive line. What? And no Leporta? No Loporta? Like, when Jared got pressured, it was Leporta, where's Leporta? No Loporta with a bad past protecting

offensive line, as much as it like kills me to say, I just don't see it for Detroit. All right, last question here, let's stay in the NFC North. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Dano, last week before the Vikings played the Packers, you basically said like, hey, J.J. McCarthy, the, his mechanics, everything, it's not going to get fixed this year, but, you know, they might be able to actually fix this over the course of the next, you know, offseason and

he will develop. After Sunday's game where he just looked like dog shite once again, where do we stand with JJ? And do you think there's a chance that they don't even give him that opportunity and they cut bait before he can actually realize his full potential? Yeah, I don't think that the ladder happens. I mean, this, young man just hasn't played football, he's barely practiced football in the last two years, I think the biggest concern right now is you are watching paralysis by analysis. I mean, there's clips where he catches the ball in the shotgun, and you can see him walking through drops of trying to think of, what should I do with the football right now?

What should I do, let alone what should I do with the football? Meaning, it's almost like he's trying to think of what is, what is the coaching point of a drop or a landmark or how many steps I'm counting steps in my head I'm counting what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg or trying to think of what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg rather than okay this is the defense this is where I want to try to work and this is how I can manipulate somebody or how feel coverage and so this is the no that's not the clip but there's a clip where you can see him go left leg

right leg left leg and it's almost like he's walking through it in a walk-through type of mannerism he's just there's definitely a in overthinking right now. I understand it. He's in a stuck place and it's not a fun place to be as a quarterback. I don't think they give up on him. But because of the lack of performance and the

lack of health and availability, there's no question you'll have to bring high-end competition in. Well, Max Brasmore is certainly going to do that. It's a stud. He can spin it from what I've been told, from the film study we've seen. But that's kind of been the conversation is that Kevin O'Connell can make anybody good. What's this guy?

guy's name? Who cares? Kevin O'Connell's the coach and the offense coordinator. If he can throw a football, he will be a good quarterback. Then when we talked to Kevin O'Connell down at owners meetings, we said, because they were looking for a quarterback. Obviously, they had moved on from Sam Darnold. Danny Dimes had left a building. Aaron Rogers allegedly was interested in the job, but they seemingly passed on him or let him know they're going to pass. We asked Kevin O'Connell what you're looking for, and he said accuracy. So did we think J.J. McCarthy was an accurate passer? Like, what? Go ahead. say this, Pat, I think one of the things that I certainly did not think about and coach could

probably speak to it better is the guys that Kevin's had a ton of success with, it's in part because they've had experience in the NFL. Like they mechanically have worked through some of the issues that maybe were a problem in their past. Kirk Cousins was a vet. Sam Darnard was a vet. Even some guys like Nick Mullins who's had to play, he's been around the NFL for four, five, six years. And so this is, you know, Kevin O'Connell's first time with a young, very young, and certainly unproven player. And it just feels like the expectation of baseline performance for the coach and the play caller was here. And where the player is is really here. So I would probably pinpoint it on a lack of development to the point that is needed.

injury hurts that obviously his rookie year big conversation coach b a the author of a book called the quarterback whisper that's what he's actually titled bruce arians 47 years in football has coached every single quarterback that's basically ever played quarterback and also every quarterback that has gone into the hall of fame basically you know quarterbacks inside now you know the NFL in the league and how it operates in offense and everything like that inside and out when you hear about j j j mccarthy and how it's all going and the story's coming out his leadership's great his moxie is great and then you hear these things like well he also calls himself nine when he's on the field and he's on demon time and he's got to control all that type of

stuff what are your thoughts what would your messaging be to him and have you ever had an experience like this with a young quarterback that maybe he's struggling very very very hard early yeah a couple times but uh yeah the alter ego thing is uh it needs to be ap what's that accurate passer okay not it's not you don't need snubbles and tears okay you play quarterback that line We don't need all this heightened up bullshit. Just go fucking play quarterback and be relaxed and throw the damn ball to the right guy. Because you've got the talent. Now, I go back his senior year, what do you throw 45 passes in the fourth quarter's entire senior year?

35. 35. Yeah, I mean, that's not NFL ready. That's scary. Then you miss your rookie year. All right. So he has had no development as a pastor. And like, mechanically, you can't think about mechanics.

NFL. You've got to be thinking about where the hell am I going with this ball in two point seconds. All right. This thing's got to go somewhere right there because of this. I don't think he's, he's missing all of that right now. First of all, how to hell do I get back there? How do I read it? Where's it going? And then also how do I throw it? Now he's thinking about how to hell to throw it. So it's like, that's bad combination, brother, really bad. What would you say to him? You tell him just fuck it? We got to stop thinking about all this stuff? Or how would you do that? Ayahuasca, maybe? Just relax. Get rid of nine. First thing. Let's Let's get rid of nine, all right?

And let's get JJ in there and play. Yes, you're a hell of a leader, but it can be, it's totally different when you're leading Michigan and you're leading the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, the Michigan team could run 50 straight times on basically everybody because of who they had. Minnesota is not going to be able to do that. And Kevin, well, they could. They tried to. Yeah, they're going to have to.

I don't think it's going to win in the NFL, but Kevin O'Connell's entire offense is based on this guy, processing, developing, knowing, and delivering quickly, just like Shanahan's offense. It's some good weapons. And that's why... Justin Jefferson sitting out there. Addison. Yeah. I mean, that's the...

Hawkinson. Nailers. Nailors. Jordan Mason. Darisaw, paid left tackle. There would have been the number one seat in the NFC last year. And then they decided, like, hey, this is what we're going to do. So there's a lot of pressure on him to develop, which I could see why he would overthink it.

But you're saying we need to get rid of all of that. Yeah, we got to wipe that slate clean and just go back to basics. Let's keep it as simple as possible. every game where he's not thinking about everything. Last thought, go ahead, Dano. Yeah, I think the thing, coming out of school, JJ,

my one thing within him was he looks on a play-by-play basis like a player who's trying to be perfect all the time. I know what it says on paper, Coach. I will do that perfectly. I will do exactly what the paper says. And I just don't think you can play at that level

chasing perfection on a play-by-play basis. I think to coach's point, like, dude, you just got to go play, man, and stop trying to do everything flawlessly perfect by what the paper says. Not only on the field, but off the field,

well, you hear his press conferences, you hear the answers he's given, you see the way he acts, his leads. It does feel like he's trying to be a movie character, NFL quarterback, you know? Yeah. Like, this is what I've heard you're supposed to be like. That's what I heard you're supposed to be like.

I think it's good intentions, you know, but I think it's a lot to kind of try to process as opposed to just being you're trying to be. I think you'll be able to figure it out. And I don't like... Can I ask Coach hearing the question, man? It better not be about getting rid of nine, okay? No, it's about the Eagles.

It's about the Eagles. Okay, here we go. All right, so here's my complaint about the Eagles, Coach. So one of the things I always loved about you, and my thought was you didn't play around in the run game. You're like, I'm just trying to be efficient in my run game, try to continue to be in good, down and distance. instances, and oftentimes, I was like, here comes duo, here comes duo, here comes duo,

underneath, and a duo. Philly doesn't do it enough. Philly's in the shotgun, the shotgun run drives me nuts. Do you agree with that? Like, can you explain to me in your thought the advantage of running from underneath the center at people with double teams in comparison to running today in the shotgun? Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, and you know where the big difference is, Dan, it's in your play action game. When you, are you under center, and you're taking a and maybe time it up to nine-step drop on a bootleg. You can't do that in the shotgun. You know, it's going to be the five at the best.

You're usually back there holding the damn ball, waiting for that stuff to go down the field. But the running game, yeah, I'm an under-centered guy. I love to have that tail back behind me. And if the quarterback's injured a little bit, I don't mind the pistol. I put the kids in the pistol back in the 80s with the head, and sprained ankles, you know. But we can still do everything we want to do, go both directions.

I agree with you totally on that shotgun running. game. That's hilarious. When you thought of that back in the 80s, you said, this backup quarterback ain't worth a shit. If we can stand you out there, we will do that with pistol, brother. Yeah, that's exactly what you said. Yeah, without saying it. Dano, we appreciate that hell out of you, man. That's Darylowski. Dane wanted to host his own show there,

eat up more time, has no idea we got a living legend waiting around. Come on. Ladies and John, this man might be an SEC father at this point. I'm not 100% sure. One of the greatest comedians to ever exist. A human's brain cannot be any more epic than this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Theo Vaughn. Hey, sorry, Dano just kept that thing going.

Theo, I'm sorry about that. Oh, it's okay. He's probably just chilling time, probably trying to stay away from his wife. You know, I don't know. I mean, people, that's what my buddies do. They're always in their cars, like in their yard, trying not to go inside or whatever.

Dan's wife's a sweet lady. Theo's obviously saying that as well. Does not know her. She's a sweet lady. And who knows what? Yeah. Yeah, Dan was sitting on the side of the road, though, there for a while.

and extend, yeah, yeah, we're getting into it. But let's talk a little bit about relationships. We saw you on Senior Day at Vandy. We saw the video. Yeah. Can you tell me about your relationship with the Pavia family and Diego and his mom and everybody? Because I think this has been a big piece of Vandy story is not only bringing people in, but Nashville people becoming massive Vandy fans.

Can you talk a little bit about it and what was Senior Day like? Yeah, I mean, you know, the lore with me and is, mom, you know, like we made a bet one day on a game, and Diego said if they won against South Carolina, and he would set me up on a date with his mom. And then, um, and they won. And so I was, you know, kind of getting fired up or whatever, or at least I was like, you know, taking care of myself better a little bit. And then, um, and then he said, then he added to the day, he's like, but only if I get to go on a date with Tate McCray. And so we never could make that happen. So the date never really panned out. The date never made it, right?

you couldn't hold up to the bargain yeah yeah got it yeah yeah i couldn't get him a day with tape mccray she wouldn't answer my dms but i don't blame her um but anyway yeah but i've just become friends with the family man and he asked me last week is like hey we walk out there with me on senior day um which was pretty cool um yeah the guy's just like i don't know he's an underdog he's an under lion actually i don't know if they have under lions but that's what that dude is man i like he's like he's the ultimate under animal And he just, the whole group there, they got a whole group of guys, like, the light is on in them. It's just been an uplifting group.

And I just started becoming friends with Diego during the summer. And then some of his roommates, and, like, and now I just love being over there. Like, I had so much joy to my life, so. Yeah, Snoop Dog became Snoop Lion. So I think you can say underdog to under Lion as well. I think that's a good play by you. That's that big brain that you're using for Diego. Obviously, in Heisman chatter, we all hope, yep, it's under there.

We all hope that Diego gets an opportunity to go represent Van Dynd. in New York City. I think he has certainly earned it. Let's talk about you and SEC football getting a chance to be around. Obviously, you're normally touring, I think, during this time. This year, you've gotten a chance to go experience

the entirety of this college ball season. What are your thoughts? And I know you and Lane have gotten very tight as well. He's in the middle of like maybe one of the biggest stories in the last 10 years of college ball because there's a lot of new rules that are about to be made because of Lane. Yeah.

Well, Lane is causing problems. And that's what he does, you know? That's part of like, you know, he's he likes to uh you know he likes to bring his own bumblebees wherever he goes he's just that kind of guy you know he likes to have an effect on things um on the field and off he's just an entertaining guy man i think he's probably one of the most entertaining and unique characters that's kind of existed in college football i mean he's on twitter he's like kind of like putting out little clues and like it's just like this this scavenger hunt for his like imagination or

You don't even know what you're doing after a while. You go on these rabbit holes and like, then you're looking at like geo locations of where he was raised and stuff online. It's like it gets pretty out there. So, yeah, but going there was awesome. I hadn't gotten to go to a lot of these SEC places to see games. So I got to go to Ole Miss and the Grove. I mean, it stood up as like one of the best parties.

Lane gave me his hotel room in the team hotel or whatever for the night. And so they even had like a charcutory in there or something, a couple of soft. yeah a couple night sausages or whatever and uh so i got to have those a couple juice boxes which i thought was kind of crazy that somebody would have that's an adult coach or whatever yeah lane yeah who doesn't love a couple juice boxes or whatever before a bed um but yeah so that was just like that experience was uh was pretty unbelievable but yeah we've gotten to go to been to alabama gotten to see um a game there and that's more like a pro it feels like a pro environment there Virginia Tech, that was amazing.

That's probably one of the most choreographed fan bases with all of the people that are in the military that are enlistees that are there. So you have like all this like whole like storm of like humanity that's happening like while the game's going on. We went to South Carolina. LSU we saw a game at this year. We're going to go to Neeland this weekend.

I already went to Neeland once. So yeah, man, sorry to just be talking so much. No, well, this is why you're here. Yeah, listen, if you would come on our show and just talk for two hours, that'd be great for us. We would certainly take that. So you do and say whatever the hell you please. We're very thankful you're joining us. But have you always been a college ball fan?

Are you kind of getting baptized by it this year? Because I know you're from Louisiana, and obviously I've learned a lot about the people you grew up around. You know, I had a kid in neighborhood this, had a guy in the neighborhood this, up the street did this. I've learned about your neighborhood. Is it a big college football town? Are you a big college ball guy, or is this the first year you're really diving in? And it's okay for either of those answers, by the way. I'm very new to the college ball world, and it is epic.

I'm a huge man. Yeah, I think I'm, I mean, I've always been an LSU fan, and then I moved to Tennessee, so that, you know, has been kind of a new experience. But this year, I think I've just had the most free time to get involved, you know, and having a team like locally here that was starting to be a fun place to watch football, I think helped to really start to change it for me. I just start to, I think about how,

long, think about the SEC, right? Probably the most notorious conference in college football, at least probably in the past 25 years. And they Vanderbilt has been at the bot. When you think about the fact that they've been in that conference and just been, you know, laugh that, bro. Laugh that. Coach Saban

was on our show. Coach Saban doesn't talk shit about anybody. Coach Saban's on our show and is like everywhere is difficult to play in the SEC, all right? Except for Vanderbilt. That was literally what he said. that's how Vanderbilt was kind of viewed. It was like, Jay Cutler went there,

but this team stinks. And then NIL transfer portal, Clark Lee comes in there. And that place is like really bringing Nashville to life. I wouldn't say that, but bringing Nashville to a college football town, right? Wouldn't you say?

I mean, it's kind of, it's lightly popping, I would say. I mean, you know, like some places they'll have like the kiss cam at like half time or whatever. And they have like the reading cam.

They're like they'll find people that are reading in the stands and stuff. So it's definitely like, it's a different energy, you know, So, you know, you have to, but you have to, it's baby steps, you know, I think it's been interesting to watch a fan base, and this is just the outsider's perspective, but to watch a fan base, like, they don't know what to do like when their team is doing it, you know what I'm saying? There's not a lot of cheers and chance built in. So you'll see at certain points

of the season, they started teaching the fan base, like different cheers and stuff. It's been pretty fascinating. Yeah, it certainly is. And college football fans are our best fans. I think we're the ones, they're the ones that we'd put up against the hooligans in Europe, whenever you're talking about best fans in the world for something, super, super passionate group of fans in college football, especially in the SEC. Now, we only have a couple of minutes left because Dan Orlovsky just ate it all up. But talking about passion, there's a lot of shit going around with your home state and also Lane. Yeah, Theo, given your connection and your ties to Louisiana, and I believe you went to school at LSU for a little bit, they kind of put all their eggs into,

hey, we need to go hire Lane Kiffin. That is kind of the only option that we have. what do you think will ultimately happen if they don't hire a guy like that like is louisiana just going to crumble is there going to be mass chaos in the streets and what should lane do one minute theo if i'm lane i think he's built something great over there at old miss it's exciting there people are giving all they can people are selling things that they're sacrificing antiques and stuff like that to be able to like donate to the uh the grove initiative there people are trying to get that n i'll money people are selling family recipes to put money on I feel like he's pushed the cart all the way up the hill there

so to leave right now feels weird it almost feels like it would be like when Saban left right before he started winning all you know just rattling off championships but that's my thoughts I don't know what lanes are you know he may have different he has he obviously has different ideas I just can't I don't know who he's trolling

that's the thing and he's definitely trolling somebody so I'm intrigued to see who it is but I just think it seems to me like he has such a great life over there that I think you should say. Now, what did he be great at LSU? I think anybody would be great at LSU. It just wasn't working out for Brian Kelly. There's a lot of good coaches that can be great there.

All right. Well, good luck to all of them. Theo, thank you for joining us. Can you talk to us next week? Yeah, dude, I would love to talk about something next week. And let's get freaking, I want to talk about who's going to be in this playoff playboy. You got it. We'll join. Hey, we'll see you next week. You're the man. You're the greatest. Thank you for everything you've done for us,

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football is awesome it's spectacular it's stupendous in the NFL just wrapped up it's week 12 of its season there was no from 47 year football coach coach b a baby a it was one i would jump off sides yeah that's on me uh talks the tables here at boss connor and that tye schmidt nine-year NFL vet darius j butler is here and live from hammer don is A. P. Tone, who we're going to be visiting with here in just a few moments about what the college football playoff committee is going to do tonight, and hopefully what the CFP chair is going to say afterwards. now I on game day college football institution

looked at the camera a couple of times and told this Hunter character who is the new chair of the CFP committee Hunter Eurocheck who has been thrusted into the CFP chair position because Mac Rhodes who's no longer athletic director at Baylor is also no longer the chair of the CFP that was a week ago there's changed so Hunter Eurocheck was kind of put into this position

He's out of Arkansas. Guy from Utah gets put into the committee to kind of substitute to Big 12 athletic director lost from Baylor there. So they have a kind of a new operation, but 10 of the 12 piece is still in the exact same role that they have been in the entire time. This Hunter, you're a check guy, comes out after the CFP bracket is kind of laid out like this is what we see it and how we see it. And it's the most important thing of the entire college football world, this thing on Tuesday. It's the one that matters. What happened this weekend? The games.

games obviously awesome they set up for this particular group to decide who gets a start at 12 and try to count down to one it's a big deal so then whenever the CFP we can't run it every day are you sure we don't have enough time are we sure we're not doing it right now we're not doing right now because i got to make this point okay okay we're allowed to say hey bud you got to give better answers okay the CFP committee is a big deal this is very important it is a lot of money invested a lot of time a lot of effort a lot of people's lives so whenever you're you you guys are rolling out what your bracket is and the things and reasons why you're doing it, we just need a little transparency. We need a little bit of an answer because we're all covering

it, talking about it, and in love with it. So it's like that's a very important role. I think Hunter maybe his first time out there, filling in from Mack roads, was scared to death. I think he was potentially scared to death. This week, what we want to let Hunter know is, you know it, you got it. Come on now. There's a reason you're in that chair. And go ahead and give us information. You're allowed to do that. live from An Attica in Ohio. He's a man who is an alumni of the number one team in the country. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion,

Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker. Hey, Hawker. I know Ohio State fans don't care because the only thing that's on their mind is their team from up north. It's a big one. It's a big week. How do we feel?

You got to feel good. How many days has it been since you guys beat Michigan? Oh, $2.000 something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's been years, yeah. Years. Oh, my God.

Because they've come into your house. Holy shit. My God. Is that live right now? Oh my God. Bruce Brown now running computer is... Oh, yeah, you know, he had that potted up real quick. Oh, Bruce, or the Michigan fan.

He had it yesterday if we needed it. We got it today as well. Yeah, half. We had that in the back, but that very quickly came up there. 2,180. What's that? That's six years. Well, didn't they, you know, they bailed out one year of COVID.

It didn't play, I believe. That adds to it. Six years. It's four straight games, I believe, right? I don't know. All I know is it's 2,187 days ago. We watched, I forgot Aidan Hutchinson kind of started this entire thing, didn't he? He did.

If I do recall, in the snow. He's on his second contract. The guys are worth $200 million. Holy shit. The Buckeyes, obviously a very proud group. Very tough group of people. They were saying themselves, Ryan Day, just kidding. can't get it done. This guy needs to get the hell out of town. Loses Michigan last year.

Wins the national championship. Ryan Day is not even a lot of celebrating it. That's cool, Bub. It's been a couple thousand days since you beat Michigan. Let's go ahead and make sure we do that next year so we don't have to do this whole song and dance. Ryan Day feeling heat, team feeling heat. You think Ohio State understands that even though they've been the outright number one team in the country basically since week 1.1 after they beat Texas. They've been the number one team. They've dominated everybody. They've shown really no weaknesses. They've shown really Illinois scored some points on them. I guess that's the only thing you can really say.

Other than that, quarterback could win Heisman. Wide receivers could be best players in ball. I think they're back this weekend, which is a big deal. The defense is outrageous, historically good. Special teams will assume that is good as well. But they know that if they were to lose the Michigan, nobody would care about any of it, right? Isn't that kind of the entire conversation? Yeah, that's kind of, I think people outside of Ohio and Michigan, they don't completely understand.

But yeah, you got to win this one, absolutely. And that's, I think, I think that's the beautiful thing about Rob. We're in rivalry week right now. Let's head over to Hammer. Dot, Don, Don. All the rivals on Friday and Saturday, Tone. And there's some big ones out there. Shout out to college ball, always delivering for us on this particular Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

Because not only Thanksgiving's packed. Oh, yeah. Chalked full. Friday, we got a Black Friday game as well, NFL. And then also, yeah, we got full day Friday of rivalry games, full day, Saturday of rivalry games. What are the nightcaps? Well, after you watch the NFL game at 3.30 on Prime, you can go ahead and watch Texas A&M in Texas. Okay, that's going to be huge.

Arch Bannings playing his best ball. Texas is playing their best ball. Texas A&M has obviously been great all year. Marcel Reed might win the damn Heisman, Texas A&M under Elko to the moon. And then on Saturday, yeah, just go ahead and kick back. You got game day kicking off from Ann Arbor at 9 a.m. available on X and on ESPN once again. And then obviously at noon, that game kicks off.

And then what's the nightcap? What's happening late at night? Alabama Auburn, which is going to be gigantic no matter how either team are playing in this thing. So whenever you talk about rivalry, you talk about special matchups. Tone, what are you thinking about whenever it comes to these two days of outright great college ball? It is going to be awesome. And obviously, you know, as they say, rivalry week, you can throw out the records. You better buckle up the chin straps.

There is no love loss for these matchups, obviously. But let's start at the Egg Bowl. Ole Miss and Mississippi State. They've been playing this one nonstop since 1944, obviously one of the grittiest robberies in the SEC. In this one, Ole Miss has won two straight. If they win three straight, they're going to go to the playoffs and tell you what, it's a big storyline for them going to the playoffs,

but the bigger storyline may be the decision on Saturday that's coming after the game. Is that happening on game date? Do we know that? I thought that earlier. I was like, is Lane going to do it? Like, literally, is he going to go? to that yoga class and then make the decision or how does that work?

I genuinely don't know how that works out because they kept saying Saturday, Saturday, Saturday and I assume it'll just be from like a release or... Press conference. Didn't they say he's having a press conference? That's what I heard. Oh, man. That'd be cool if we had that press conference on Game 3. I mean, what times do you do it? Yeah, either running on a game day or just have him come to game day or do it there. He's focused on the Egg Bowl.

Yeah, well, after the game. Well, they're all focused on the Egg Bowl. That's why they push it to Saturday. Oh, yeah, I've completely turned. I know we love laying up here, so I'm going to bite my tongue. But what? Who are you doing? Bite your tongue? What are you thinking about saying?

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen or witnessed from a college football? By far. What's he supposed to do? He's supposed to sign the damn contract. He's supposed to at least come out and say something. This is more ridiculous than Free My Boy BK. And that's saying something. What is he supposed to do, actually?

What do you think he is actually supposed to do in the middle of a college football? I don't know. I don't know what he's supposed to do, but I know there's not supposed to be some hoopla around it the entire, the entire year. I think Lane Giffin, there's always going to be hoopla. But to your point, I think we should have had an answer by now.

But, like, what if he actually has not had the opportunity to learn everything about what potential decisions? What if they haven't offered him an extension yet? Do we know if they've offered him an extension? Then he should leave. Then he should leave. Exactly.

Then he should come out and say it. But if he leaves, then what happens? This is the bestest teams have ever done. No, I agree. I'm just saying if Ole Miss hasn't shown faith after what he's done this year and offered him a massive new contract extension, if they haven't done that yet, then if he leaves, the fan base can't say a damn thing. Theo said that they're selling family recipes to try to feed the Grove Collective down there. He said they're selling off heirlooms and antiques to try to feed the NIO, which might be a part of the problem. But on that note, it's like if the money is all the same, which we don't know if it is, we have no idea if it is.

The difference would be the recruiting, I guess, is the angle that everybody's talking about is like in Louisiana, you got guys that just want to go to LSU who are going to be better football players than anybody around Ole Miss that just wants to go to Ole Miss. Florida, same exact thing. I guess there's Florida boys that want to go to Florida and have wanted to go to Florida since their parents went to Florida or their dad was a Florida fan or mom was a Florida fan or older brother played for Florida. or teammate play, like anything. There's just, that happens, I guess, is like the big selling pitch. It's like, hey, these two schools have your draft, basically, your recruiting pipeline taking care of.

So whenever you want to do the transfer portal, which you're very good at, you don't have to necessarily rely on your whole team being transfer portaled in every single year because obviously that's a roll of the dice. We've seen Florida State go from literally penthouse to outhouse with one transfer portal class, and they still trying to get out of that whole thing.

So I guess that's the advantage of the other side. But the other side of it is like, that city might be named after you, like Lane Kiffins, Oxford. That's probably why it's a tough situation. That's probably why he needs some time to figure this out. Like, yeah, this is a giant opportunity I have

no matter what I do. Like, yeah, give me a couple days, I guess. And we have the number six team in the country right now. Like, we are very fucking good football team. This is the best team that I've ever had. We're going to the, I've never, like, we are, this is the best chance that any of my teams

that I've been a head coach have of going on a run right now. And all of a sudden, he's put into a predicament where it's like, yeah, well, we need to find out if you want to go live in another place, what the recruiting's like in another place, what the transfer portal was like at another place. And oh, yeah, you've got to do that before all this, because the transfer portal placement really screws you over in this whole thing. Hey, I'm trying to be Mississippi State. They got the cowbells down there. It's very, very loud. Well, we don't care about that because if you're going to coach somewhere else, we don't even, we don't want you to be Mississippi State. We actually want you to be an ass coach, but it would be bad for us.

Yeah, but you're going to take all our players if you leave any. It's just, I don't know how you're supposed to. I genuinely don't know what the right answer is. And obviously, I chat with Lane a little bit. I don't think we're, like, Theo and Lane very close. Like, I think Theo and Lane... Game his hotel room, yeah. And it's juice boxes.

Yeah, juice boxes, a little apple juices up there for. And they had good night sausages or whatever the case was. But, yeah, like, I think there's a lot of different angles this could go. Because I guess in old college ball theory, you would know this, you get an opportunity to go coach at LSU or Florida, you go. like that is kind of like old school college football thought is I think is like the natural belief in it all like Virginia Tech and James Franklin I thought was huge gigantic holy hell yeah it's huge really big and nobody expected Virginia Tech to like James Franklin's available

oh he must be going to Florida then maybe maybe James Franklin goes to Florida job or whatever and then it's like well Florida's going to wait for Lane and then it's like actually James Franklin and Virginia Tech and then all of a sudden are like well BAs in there negotiating for this entire fucking thing. Can't tell us anything because you signed an NDA and told us that 10 times. Get himself out of having to tell us anything, I think. It was a good play by you because you're in front of a microphone every single week with us. But James Franklin going to Virginia Tech is not the normal move either. Like James Franklin, I think in this coaching cycle, highly sought after, you would assume he would go to a bigger job in theory, but it's like Virginia Tech is backing

them. Virginia Tech is back in them. Virginia Tech ready for it. James Franklin heard everything he wanted to move. It's like if Lane hears everything from Ole Miss, it's like, hey, we're with you, we're in it. The only thing you're going to have to get past is the recruiting and the stress every single year that you're potentially going to have to rebuild this thing. And it's like, well, how do you make that decision? I guess you go to a 6 am. yoga and you try to figure it out. Let's get back to arrive. Good luck, Lay. Great spot to be in. Great spot. Great spot. He's in a great spot, but inevitably he's going to make a decision that's going to piss off so many people. Oh, for sure. Even the other coaches, because

once that, he's the biggest domino. Once that, I'm sure he's getting calls from even other coach is like, hey, what you're going to do? Like, make a decision, make a call. But so thank God he's doing a yoga and he's locked into his book and kind of standing it, you know, one day at the time, as much as he can. He has an agent. I'm sure that's handling all of that business. But it's a good spot to be in.

It's, shit, he's getting ready for the biggest rivalry game, getting ready for a playoff place. So it's tough for him. I mean, how would you know? Like, legitimately, we have been talking about Lane Kiffin for a month. Yeah. We haven't really talked about the team. And I get we've talked about Trinidad, Winadad.

and Lacey because he wheels him out behind him. But, like, we really haven't talked about the team. When the college football playoffs. It's actually good distraction. Great distraction. When the college football playoff comes out tonight, guess what we're going to talk about when we see Ole Miss's name up there? Well, is Lane going to be there?

I get it. I'm just dumb with it. You know what they're going to do tonight, too? They're definitely going to read that fourth clause. Or sure. They're definitely going to read it. Let's make sure everybody kind of understands. That CFP committee can certainly deduct Ole Miss.

If they don't think Lane Kiffin's going to be coaching for him, it's right there in the bylaws. Hey, if you don't have Jordan Travis anymore, you cannot go. And then also, if you don't have Lane Kiffin, you can't. We're allowed to say you can't go. It's in the bylaws. That's going to be a big talking point, which is then going to lead to the Ole Miss people going, yeah, well, you need to answer. If you're calling a press conference, like, okay, so do you know because you are calling a press conference to make it a bigger deal when you announce?

Or are you calling a press conference because then you're setting your own deadline in your head that I got to know by then? I'm thinking that he did not make, didn't want to make a decision. I'm thinking that there was a lot of people that probably wanted him to make a decision that's why he wanted to come on and say like there's been no ultimatum mate because I think he didn't want to have to think about I would rather not think about the decision is made

I don't think which makes I think he's I don't think he's made his decision. Oh you know him obviously I don't know him I think the decision is made okay and there's people that say like I know what's going to happen and you could certainly say that this is Lane Kiff

and that's why if you're an old Miss fan if you don't think the decision has been made yet, like, that terrifies you. Absolutely terrifies you. Because then, like, what happens in the Egg Bowl could completely shift whatever the decision is. I mean, definitely. I mean, like, yeah, it's like.

Because you lose that game and everybody wants to run you out of town. Exactly. All right, fucking, I'm gone. Yeah. Exactly. That's the. Make it easy. Yeah, but if he's planning on staying.

Yeah, they better win by 45, even if it's close. Maybe that's all it is. You lose? Hey, they're going to kick me out of anything. way, see you. No one's mad. Hey, if we win, congrats, I signed an extension. Here we go. What do you say? One loss drops you out of the top 10. Two losses drops you out of the top 20.

Three losses loses you your job. That's what he said. Maybe he is thinking, like, can we just see what happens? I mean, this decision might be made by the Bulldogs here in the Egg Bowl, but also, I don't think he wanted to make a decision. I think he wanted to, I think obviously he's reped by Jimmy Sexton, and the big deluxe is certainly getting all the big numbers in the information.

if it was possible. I haven't talked to Lane. Lane's focus on ball. But if it was to what could it look like, you know, is what Jimmy's saying. So whenever you see these reports, like LSU is gearing up to make a blah, blah, blah offer, Florida's making up, and they're like, why is he listening? It's like, it's not Lane that's calling him saying, hey, so what would the negotiation? This is, there's a man who's very good at his job. Maybe Goat when it's all said and done. And he hasn't changed a lick since he was, I mean, he's the exact same big deluxe. bitch is special he he is obviously uh a great businessman which is why he has so much influence which some people say is that even legal what is that even he is he is to represent

all of them represent a good chunk of coaches and some players obviously right he's a weapon you know but when you when you represent a bunch of coaches everybody talks about like well he he's able to kind of it's like well you also got these guys like pissed off at him if he's not doing his job so he's been able to balance basically he's great business jimmy second The fact that you can balance all those big-time head coaches, and that is, think how difficult that must be because they all want the jobs that are open. Jimmy Sexton's a dog, okay?

He's absolutely a dog. But people that think Lane Kiffin is reaching out to LSU or Florida and negotiating with him, he's like, that's not happening. Jimmy Sexton is saying, hey, if this guy, who I also represent was to be your coach, what would it look like? If Lane wanted to come, I'm not saying he does, but if he did want to come, what would that look like? And then I would assume, yeah, after the egg ball,

say. I'll say after the egg bowl. Jimmy Sexton comes. Jimmy Sexton has a big platter, and he says, here's basically all our options. Got three contracts for you here. Here's what we're thinking. The governor, Jeff Landry wanted you to know this. You can also

go on Gator Hunt, he said. And you get all this stuff. Florida Governor dissent, he's not happy about the way Florida's going on. He can go on Gator Hunt there, too. So we have two Gator Hunts, and then Ole Miss here, yoga studio said they will actually give you 15% of the company. So that is what Jimmy is doing. That is his job.

he's not just doing it for Lane. He's doing it for all the other guys, too, just in case. So I think there's a lot of conflicting stories about what Lane's paying attention to, what he's not paying attention to. And it's like, I genuinely don't think he wanted to make a decision, which is why he wanted to be like, hey, Ole Miss never told me I need to make a decision right now. I think he's trying to push it as far as possible. And then I think the earliest that anybody would accept, which is why I think you saw the

chancellor put out a message is like day after Egg Bowl then. We got to know. Which is an ultimatum then? Yes. but I don't think that was put in place at that time. Like at that time, I don't think the ultimatum was put in place. Then I think Lane met with them and I think they were like

he was like, I just don't want to, that's not what I want to focus on it. That's a lot of things. There's a lot of things. Like there's so many things. I think I'd rather just focus on ball right now. And they're like, well, we need an answer after the Egg Bowl. And then they're like sweet, Saturday. Sounds good. Because I think the Chancellor put out a message. I was like, we are very committed to Lane Kiffin

getting a good win in the Egg Bowl. And then Saturday we will be learning. It's like I think that was a negotiation on when decision was going to be made if I had to guess. So I think Lane was trying to push it off as far as possible. They were probably trying to speed it up as much as possible. So the day after this game is when we will do this then, I think is what they came to an agreement on. And I don't know if Lane knows.

I don't know if Lane knows. What I do know is rivalry week is sweet. And I do know the old Mississippi State Egg Bowl might have implications on so many different states, so many different stories. So many different college football dreams could certainly be the case. But obviously, Ohio State hasn't won in 2001. 187 days against Michigan. Georgia, Georgia Tech. You know, Georgia Tech loses the pit last week.

Crazy. Now this game matters a lot for Georgia Tech. And obviously, Georgia has looked like one of the top teams in the entire country. I was in Eugene last week, and they hate Washington up there. They hate Washington up there. Shout it to them, obviously. And then Alabama, Auburn has massive implications for an Alabama team that cannot lose a game. Now, there's a game that a lot of people have not been talking about.

When it comes to robberies, but boy, the two schools involved certainly have. Let's go to last night after George Kittles' big Monday Night Football Performance with Scott Van Pell. Let's have some fun on the way out here. My producer is in Iowa grad, and I know that there's, my favorite part of this week is how many incredible games there are. There's a Nooner in Lincoln. You never lost there. You know, there's a guy that's a, he's got a burgeoning media career that's busting with the bull. and all that. He's Nebraska. I don't know how he's doing after what happened in State College.

I don't know if you want to address him directly or this floor is yours as it relates to Iowa and Nebraska. Hey, Will Compton. Didn't really appreciate your voice memo on the day of my Monday night football game talking crap to me about Nebraska, Iowa. Didn't settle with me. You know what? I didn't like it. And you know, that's just, that's the type of thing Nebraska does. They take cheap shots, you know, hey, I'm preparing for a Monday night football game on national television and you're coming to be about Nebraska, Iowa, that means you're scared. You're terrified. You lost by 30 at Penn State. They just fired their coach at us by 30. Are you kidding me? I was going to come in there run the ball down your throat and there's nothing you can do about it. Sit on the bus that doesn't

go anywhere and shut your mouth. Wilcompton. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the man who sits on a bus that doesn't go anywhere and he's been representing Nebraska louder than anybody that I've ever witnessed from Bustin with the Boys and first get up, sorry, Will Compton. Yay! What's the boys?

All right, so you got buried on Sports Center with Scott Van Pelt last night by George Kiddo. I saw your response, epic, just like most things that you do on the internet. Iowa, Nebraska,

not a lot of people thinking about nationally. What do we need to know? And are you actually confident in Nebraska? And if Iowa beats the living dog shit out of Nebraska, which is possible.

Are you worried about what old George Kittle might do to you next will? You know what I'm talking about? I think when people talk about this Iowa Nebraska game, because again, this type of game is for the sickos. These are the sickos who love college football. There's not going to be a lot of points scored. I want to say last year Nebraska punted seven times, Iowa punting nine. It's been decided in one score or less in the last five years.

And my confidence never waivers on the Big Red. George wants to sit there. Number one, like Iowa guys, they can't use their brains. George is on national television talking about will he wants to I don't appreciate this this a cheap shot he's going on national television can't respond to me directly I'm going to him to talk to him directly privately he wants to not he wants to not respond he wants to go around and go on national television take shots at me when I'm just trying to prepare for some college football on Saturday I'm watching last night volume was on eight I think it was like North Carolina you like North Carolina North Carolina State was where I was in my prep works volume was on eight on the TV and the office sudden I hear Scott Van Pelt saying, I know you want to talk to your Nebraska friend directly here in a few minutes. I kind of look over, like, is George about to talk shit on national television? He don't respond to my text when I'm trying to go to him man to man.

He wants to take the coward's way out and go and broadcast it to everybody else, but doesn't want to talk to me back and forth. That is the Iowa brain at work. And he talks about, you know, we lost by 30 to Penn State last week. Little does everybody know that game was meaningless last week. You think we ran one scripted play and practice against Penn State? No. It's all lies on Iowa Hawkeyes Because, yes, we all in nine and all the last 10

That is Big Brother right now But this is Big Brother who's bleeding They can't even defend their state They can't even defend their state of Iowa They lose the Iowa state What makes you think they can defend the border? I know Ty Schmidt's sitting there shaking in his boots right now Because old Matt Rule Ambit Johnson and Willie C

Is going to run wild on the Iowa Hawkeyes this week Okay That's all I got, that's the promo Yeah, that was pretty good I think you should feel good about the delivery I think you should feel good volume at eight good idea even setting the table a little bit looking over at it and then obviously the response was epic great promo i'd say george kiddle dropping right into a wrestling promo

immediately upon the question being asked was also a special moment in there i appreciate that nebraska feels this way about iowa does i will think about nebraska i don't personally no because they're i mean what is the border all about will it turns out it doesn't matter will will will was in Nebraska wasn't in the Big Ten when you played there, right? You were in the Big 12 for two years and Big Ten for two years. Willie C. went two and O against Iowa. Exactly, and that's what I was going to say. So I understand that Will, because he did.

He went two and O against the Hawks. Willie C did, yeah. Yeah, Willie C did. I mean, Nebraska's 4 and 10 against Iowa in the last 14. And guess what? Will Compton ain't coming through that door to play on Saturday. He's not. You know, so that's one thing.

But, you know, I mean, like he said, this is, am I looking forward to watching this game? No. It's going to be three and a half hours of wanting to rip your goddamn eyeballs out. And whoever has the ball last, and we're probably going to see a 58-yard field goal from one way or the other to decide this game. But no, I'm not losing any sleep over Nebraska.

Because, you know, why would I? We got Mark Gronoski playing quarterback, okay? Agreed. Dylan Ryola's, you know, legs in 55 different pieces. Who's your returner? Caden Weeching. You don't even, but that's the thing. You know, Nebraska's not going to punt to Caden Weech, and they know what he can do.

And you know what? You're just blast it out of bounds? Yeah, I do. I do, because Michigan State should have done that last week, and they didn't. Nebraska is the punter that can go both ways, right? He's a right-y-and-a-lefty, if I recall? I have no idea because, you know what, I'm not paying any attention to Nebraska. And I understand, we've had Matt Ruhle on the show all year.

The guy. Exactly. He is a good guy. He is a good guy. But, no, I mean, you know, Will, you're from Missouri. That's the show-me state. Nebraska's going to have to show me something before. I'm losing any sleep over that game.

Ooh, Willie C, eat that, and don't respond. We've talked too much about this game already. Let's move along. You said you were doing your college ball scouting for the weekend. Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously, Taylor, the other bussing boy is a huge Michigan alum.

Michigan stud. 2,187 days it's been since Ohio State has beat Michigan. And obviously, everybody from Ohio thinks about it, everybody from Michigan celebrates it. What are your thoughts on this weekend's matchup? in is this the one where the Buckeyes can finally say, ah, we finally beat this team that has been our only kind of spur in our ass over the last decade of dominance for our team?

Yeah, you know, I would have given Michigan no shot before last weekend. They played their best game of ball last weekend. Bryce Underwood had a stat line. The running game still moving even with their third string running back. They can play salty on defense. Um, dude, Ohio State, you see it from afar. You're an internet guy watching the victory labs, the patent on the head, everything that happens. And when they were 20-something point underdogs last year, you know, people talk like, did ego get in the way of Ohio State and they wanted to beat them in a certain way?

And that kind of got in their way and they end up dropping that game to where they're planting flags on the field. I mean, you got kids reenacting plays of planning the Michigan flag on Ohio State's field. and you know Ryan Day wakes up in a sweat in the middle of the night just thinking about this game everybody's fired up for this game the hype I hope it lives up to expectation

I think Michigan has a good shot to keep a close to even squeak out of wind get an upset I know that with torture Ohio State fans but you called me earlier and you gave me a little whisper I you know if we don't

if you cannot put this on the show what no don't do it we're live we're live I could just say it quiet I think, I'll say it quietly because we can't let people hear this. I do think Ohio State handles business. I think this is where they get the monkey off their back. I hate saying that because I love my boy.

I am riding with Michigan with the points here. Yeah, a massive opportunity. There's a massive opportunity for Ohio State to beat the living hell out of Michigan. I just want to see chaos. I'm a pro-caust guy. Just give me chaos 10 times out of 10. Somebody's a slight underdog. They can kind of disrupt the entire.

system by getting a win. I want to see it happen because I want to see the internet just up in flames at all times. That's what I love about the sport of the internet. Yeah, the sport of the internet is obviously one that's very intense and active all the time. The sport of college. Hey, Pat, Pat, let me ask you. Are we still? Because I know what a... This is we're dumping with us or AJ can't even hear us right now. Go ahead. Yeah, I can't. I know. I know where AJ's going. Pat, what do you think about this game? What do you think about Ohio State, Michigan? I want to let you know. I can't wait to get up to Ann Arbor. I can't wait. Very thankful for all those Ann Arbor students that will hang out with us 9 a.m. on Saturday, I will say the

location of our set is always very far away from the stadium. So it's always an interesting thing because we have to hop on golf carts, drive like what is seemingly 10 miles to get to the stadium and then go inside. So it's always a bit chaotic up there. But boy, it's an honor to be amongst all the Ann Arborans and all the great people in Michigan. There's billionaires walking around everywhere. Billionaires, kids just going to school. It's a lot of fun. I think it's going to be a great matchup, Willie C. That's what I think. I think it's a really good game. That's what I think. We got to wait to see what

happens when you got that shirt off. By the way, hey, your body, you look good out there with that shirt off. I know you've been putting in the work. I know you've been in the sauna and working out. You look good. Thank you. We can say that louder, you don't have to do inside voice for that one. We're allowed to let other people hear that. A lot of good science Willie C, as you know, as well. But

science doesn't work if you don't. You know, that's what's why I've been told. So I've been trying to become a better human. I've been trying to become a better human in it all. I wish I could grow a mustache like what you have on your face right now. But I think this game is going to live up to the hype and I can't wait to get up to Michigan. And everything I said there is true. We do take golf carts like 45 minutes to get to the stadium. They'll have like Jen Lotto will have a 20 minute piece. Then they'll have somebody Pete Dammel will maybe break down the entire season for like 15 minutes and then we get

in there into the stadium. There's just humans everywhere though. I mean, that's 100 plus thousand. What's the big house? What is 100 and what? 109 maybe 10 or something yeah so many fucking people that is so many human beings at one place let alone outside of it and around it it does feel it's special place to be lucky to be there hope the game lives up to the hype all right let's talk about some other shit happening

around the sports world go ahead con man yeah well a lot of hair ago for you you said joe burrow was the best quarterback in the NFL when healthy finally he's back on thanksgiving night versus the ravens and his record versus the Ravens is pretty filthy. I think he's got like 21 touchdowns, five picks. He's averaging like 300 yards a game versus him. What do you think about the Bengals? Do you think they're going to make a run out of

here, maybe come back a little bit? They're banged up very much so. T. Higgins out. Jamar Chase back from the spit. Do you think that since he can make a run here? Jamar Chase back from the spit. Joe Burrow back from injury. Do those things make the defense play better? I don't know. I don't think so.

Like if Joe Burroughs out on the field under center, does that mean the second effort there against old big boy from the Steelers a couple weeks ago? Is he actually going to throw his face in the fan instead of kind of coddle up and fold when the lights get on him? I have no clue. I like him this week against the Ravens. I like some chaos. They won't go on a run because, again, their defense is brutal. But I would love to see Joey B lighted up first game back like a month ahead of schedule with his injury, especially a turf toe. Like anybody who said turf toe, no, that's a tough injury to come back from it.

He got under the scope with it, too. He had to get surgery. But I like Joey B this weekend against the Ravens. Let's talk about the Bengals as a whole. When they put their team together the way they did and spent the money that they spent, did you think to yourself, oh, that's how teams that have won football games

have done it in the past? Do you think they'll ever be able to win? So much money on a few offensive players. Like, absolutely not. That's a shame, isn't it? That's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame.

It's a shame. It's like you kind of see. teams that try and do that... What's that? George's calling. Oh, we got... Yeah, we got. Yep, absolutely. Back to rivalry week. Here we are. Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, George. We're live, we're live, we're live, we're live. We're live right now. Can you say

hello? Can you wait? Hey, congrats on, big night last night, George. Hell yeah, go Hawks, go Hawks, go promo. The promo. They tag me on Twitter. I'm trying to get a massage right now. Get my body right to go play in Cleveland this week. And you're just taking cheap shots again. Okay, cheap shot guy. This is the first time you've been face-to-face it with me

because I tried facetiming you yesterday and you took the cowards way out. It's early in the morning when I face-timed you. You had all day long to respond to your boy, but you want to go like, hey, Scott Van Pelt, like let me go on your show and talk to Willie C. Like, we know, we see, everybody sees that you're rattled right now. You don't get to go on Scott Van Pelt.

You get asked to go on Scott Van Pelt. I don't know if you've ever been on Scott Van Pelt, but it's an honor to work with that legend. You probably, you called Pat to get on his show, didn't you? No, Pat. Okay, no, no, no, no. Don't try it. Don't disrespect me right now, George.

I'm trying to keep my head above water. Hey, I hate you this week, and I'm going to hug you next week. I love you. Take care of yourself. Hey, me now, love me later. Love that. Amen. Love everything about that.

You said it. All right, we just talked about the Bengals, obviously, having a recipe for success, which we all certainly know. I'm happy that happened. I'm happy you guys are that tight, by the way. That's a beautiful thing. I don't know who posted his photo. It's messed up.

I don't like this. Oh, yeah, come on, Photoshop, man. AI's crazy, man. That looks real. That looks real. You're good. Wait, is that? Are you on the same science as me, bro?

Hey. I don't know if I'm putting the same science in my body as you. I need to get on that plane. I need to hit you up on the side. Like, hey, what do we got going here? I'm soft right now. The affinity people are good people. You need to know that the affinity people are good people.

Let's talk about great people. There has been a semifinals list put out about the greatest of all time. Go ahead, Deb. Oh, yeah. Well, let's see, I got to put you on the spot here, too. Played a long, long time in the league. Nine years. Not sure where we're at, where year 10, if that's, you know, still up in the air. But I got to get you to pick five of these guys that's going to get into the Hall of Fame. Not sure if you can see the names up here. I know a couple for me, teammate Vinny, Robert Mathis, Larry Fisger, obviously first ballot. Drew Brie's probably first ballot. Luke Keakley. But those are probably my five, I think, off the top.

Who do you think is going to get in this year with this finals list? Oh, what a spot to be in right here. I can kind of read half of the list. Luke Keeckley, like that to me, Luke Keeckley, no matter what. That was my king growing up, along with you too, AJ Hawk. Of course.

Dude, we're talking about the Hall of Fame. All these guys are great. You ask me on any given day, any time of the day. I mean, yeah, that dude, he seems like a Hall of Fame. I have absolutely no clue who should get into the Hall of Fame. Drew Brees, hell of a player. Philip Rivers, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Whitten, Hickley, Rodney Harrison,

dude, I have no clue. That's above my pay grade. I never played at a level to where I could even flirt with the idea of the Hall of Fame, even though my five years will be coming up here very shortly. Okay. That'll be talked about, I'm sure. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. But I have no clue. I have no clue. They all deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. You never know if you'd be a

Hoffnam, brother. You never know it would be a Hoffnom. You know. I never know. I'm a three-time Hoffnorm. I think they felt obligated strictly because I'm on a microphone. Now, talking about that, one of the Hoffnoms this year was Mr. A.J. Hawke. Let's go, Hawke.

Get back to some of our finals, but we'll get there next year. We'll get there next year, AJ. And obviously, anytime your name is associated with any of this, it's special. And I think we all hold the Hall of Fame in such high regard.

I think it's one of those things that every player has respect for. And whenever you watch these greats, have emotional moments whenever they're told that they're going to live on forever in the hall. It's a beautiful thing.

Impossible task, figuring out who deserves to go and who doesn't. deserve to go in because it's like Phil Rivers. Phil Rivers is like starting quarterback in the end of a very good one for 20-some years or whatever the case is. What did he win? What did he win?

It's like a lot of games. No, that's why I'm asking. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking about Super Bowl. And then you skipped right over one person. You were reading that graphic. Skipped over Eli Manning. Willie C. did.

Willie C just skipped right over Eli McI make. Go ahead. It's an intentional, Eli. I'm on the show right now for my phone. So the ones that are bolded, those are the ones that are. But that's a whole other conversation. It's his final record. What's his final record?

And it's like, who cares? He's Eli Manning. You don't think he should live on forever? It's like, Bruce, how do you view the Hall of Fame? Obviously, you've been around a long time. Your name's going to be up for it. You're going to be in conversations about it for the rest of your life, whether you're in it or talking about going in it,

which seemingly becomes a thing. What are your thoughts on the Hall of Fame and how it should kind of be handled? Yeah, it's the ultimate. I mean, when you, when you're, I've set in that crowd now for like four or five years because I've had a guy go in the last four or five years, and it's just amazing. What a day. you know to see the families and everybody there

obviously Ronde Barber was my last one and he's like my nephew so yeah it's a Hall of Fame is that's it. How about them voting? What do you think the thoughts are like? Yeah to me that's when those guys get in there and start fighting it out you got to have a hell of a guy representing you I have found that out. If you got a meek

mild guy that's your reporter that's you ain't getting in. I said that for a while. Yeah. You got to have a dog got to have a dog in there fighting. So we have we've had a guy who I think everybody has respect for obviously his name I was on the media room or whatever. The journalist's super duper area at the Colts facility and everything like that.

And obviously I have respect for him a lot. But it took Dwight Freeney a long time to get in. It's like, how is this even a case? And then I started hearing the same thing you're hearing. At the table, the person represents got to fight for it. It's like, well, that guy doesn't really like me. He put me as like the third team punter for the Colts whenever he put the Colts together. And I'm like, he's the one that's in there.

I mean, fuck me. I don't deserve to go in there. but like anybody else that he potentially has like just a little bit of slight against it's like he's the one representing the entire i don't know how that that's scary situation maybe we need to reevaluate how these decisions are made for all things willy see maybe we just have future hoffnoms like willy see get the pen and start sending people in maybe that's what we need to do i would love that i'll either it's heisman voting hall of fame voting i would love to be part of all that stuff give me a pen and paper and i'll let something rip i love that uh Any NFL stories we should talk about that you are really keen on? You won't like this one, but I, again, pro chaos. We'd love to see some chaos in the AFC South. I'd love to see there's an opportunity for the Houston Texans and all the momentum that they have to beat the Colts this weekend.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. I just think Colts drop one again, a little bit of doubt coming in the locker room a little bit. Texans on an absolute heater. If the Jaguars take care of business this weekend, you got three teams there in the AFC South. that again, AFC South, nobody really talked about the division, that division, like, as the season started to unfold. But then you've got three teams right now who'd be one game away from each other. And, dude, I've been taking beating after beating for my chiefs take last week. Because I had the Colts, I had Danny Jones just being the guy to take down the dynasty.

And, yeah, you saw him right there. Yeah, yeah, it would have been nice if we put them away, okay? And it looked easy early. But to your point about the AFC Southfield, Yeats just kind of put this tweet out, Colts play the Jags and Texans twice in the final six weeks. So you talk about chaos, it's very available. Now, the Tennessee Titans seemingly not even existing. Cam Ward can make a couple throws very, very well.

Can they put anything around him that he's going to have a great football career? TBD, for sure. But the other three teams, to your point, really taking off, really taking off. And the Chiefs might still be the Chiefs, brother. We're just not 100% sure yet. No, listen, they won a game. They won at Arrowhead. the chiefs they're not still the chiefs the dynasty will fall just hasn't happened yet oh i didn't know

you're a hater you you're a chief's hater you you don't listen i appreciate greatness i respect greatness whenever their doc comes out for the chiefs whenever that whole dynasty docu series comes out i will be right there on opening night because i love everything that they've ever done but you know i like that a little bit of fun on the internet it feels like the chiefs fans you can kind of you can kind of rattle them a lot of the times and so um i always appreciate a good little banter back and forth on the internet okay so you're all right i respect what you're doing here trolling yeah just complete just a little bit of chaos lane theo vaughan just said lane kiffin's trolling somebody we just don't know who it is yeah he said every tweet he puts out is some scavenger hunt into his mind and it's like

that's not a place you won't be who knows where he's going what do you think about lane's situation dude lane has such an opportunity to be the biggest hero of all time or the biggest villain of all time the way he's kind of maneuvered again he he says he doesn't know what he wants to do a lot of me just believes this dude might just be making a decision on friday or saturday uh but dude if they win this egg bowl and he comes out and says he's standing at old miss like me i would love to see him go as far as maybe he's telling lSU in florida that he's coming like uh when the game ends. He's texting like, hey, you know, these are going to be one of my spots. Gets Florida and LSU to believe. And just at the last second, he announces that he's staying at

Ole Miss, tries to, tries to take shots at his competition by dragging him along this entire process and just stay home with Ole Miss. He would be the biggest here of all time. But I'm telling you right now, if he leaves and he break, he would be ripping the heart out of the chest of Ole Miss. And they would hate him so much because it would have went down in such an ugly way. I'm hopeful that he stays because, again, Ole Miss puts out their thing, hey, he's an announcement's going to be made after the Egg Bowl. Then something leaks

on Sunday, like LSU's prepared to offer $90 million, $100 million, a billion to Lane Kiffin. It seems like, hey, he might be leaning that way. I hope it's just all drag-along troll sesh. He's trying to hurt the competition, and ultimately he stays home at Ole Miss. All right. I think a lot of people are saying the same thing. I wonder if he's

listening, or if he's already made up his mind like D-Buts. It's already made up his mind. And we kind of know. No, we We know. AJ knows. He's out of there. I know. What?

Tate told everybody he knows. It can't be too mad. Fans can't be too mad. It's how it works. That's how the game works. It is. It is. Hey, Will, I want to ask you quickly about chaos.

You talk about that. Well, first off, a two-part question. Brable, are you surprised how quickly I guess he's like the culture has got into the New England Patriots and how good they are. And second part, would you rather get you punched in the balls or spit on? Good question. On the football field, that is. Great question. to answer the second question i'd rather get punching the balls than spit on

uh agree braybill i'm not surprised like you just see the way this team's operated uh the culture that that's been like leaking into that team like stephan diggs is fired up at the game you got henry the tight end drake may you have all these hot mic moments with vrable and the way that everybody's kind of talking to each other the leadership that goes on and drake may is just a superstar right now. The dude, he operates well in the pockets, super poised. It never seems like he gets rattled whatsoever. Always seems like to have the perfect touch on the football. New England, man, they've been, I'm surprised that they are this far ahead in the rebuild. I know people hate to hear the term rebuild and everything like that. But, dude, it looks like

they're going to win that division. I still haven't won the division. It's easier to say now. I was talking about them upsetting the bills back in September, I believe it was. But they're in a prime spot, dude. They're going to be competing for. the one seat in the AFC, which is nuts to think about. Like you talk about before the season, it'd be what, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, who's going to get the one seat in the playoffs this year? Those four quarterbacks. And now we're sitting here.

It's the Broncos and the New England Patriots. We're talking about Bo Nix and Drake May. And he's going to get the one seat in the playoffs. And Danny Jones. Jesus. Of course. Oh, my God. Afters.

They're kind of an aftersock. Oh, my God. But they dropped. They dropped. I'm just saying the two lost teams right. Right now, it's the Broncos and the Patriots. I understand you had the Colts beating the Chiefs this past weekend, so you looked bad publicly, so you've got to hold it against us all of a sudden.

Just know, we still have Jonathan Taylor, okay, and maybe he wasn't able to run for shit against the Chiefs in Kansas City, on grass, which people are starting to talk about, in outdoors stadiums on grass. Off a barred. We're back in the Loud House this weekend. Just look for us to turn it up. Who are you guys playing?

Good team, a pretty good team. Tough defense over there. Pretty good defense, yeah. Don't you worry about the Houston, Texans. Oh, I'm not. I'm not worried about anybody unless you're at the top, baby. Okay, all right. Willie C., we appreciate you, man.

Good luck on all your chaos everywhere you go. All right, boys. Love you. Thanks for having me all, Pat. You too, man. What's your final score? All right. Happy Thanksgiving, man.

Two later, bro. All right, let's pivot away from Willie C. Football, and let's go to BA football. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday. So that means it's time for BS or no BS, with B.A. Now, B.A, obviously, this has become one of our favorite segments of the week because you, Matt, and with 47 years of football coaching experience, tell us if a narrative or a quote

that is being mentioned publicly is either BS or no BS in your eyes. Let's get to the first one. Christian McCaffrey leads the NFL in receptions, Terry's, and broken tackles. He needs to be in the MVP conversation. Is that BS or no BS, B.A? No, that's no BS. Definitely. I mean, what he's doing right now, any tag I'd always say, when you put your name in the history of the NFL, he's got a chance for 1,000 and 1,000, the only guy to ever do it twice. And, you know, after watching that game the other night, last night, he's going to get the ball enough. He's just hope his legs can hold up.

Everybody's talking about Jonathan Taylor being the running back that would be in the MVP conversation. Bejohn Robinson had a conversation a little bit earlier. Christian McCaffrey hasn't really been a part of this convoy really yet until what I think today, whenever these stats started coming out. has this been a kid Christian McCaffrey like year like obviously he's getting the ball as much as he is is he going to be able to finish and uh is this Niners team go as he goes obviously totally that offense is he is the offense so he is valuable he's the offense he and george kiddle and George Kittles comes off of all the fakes to Christian McCaffrey you know and so it's uh this guy is amazing to me everybody thought he was too small coming out the dude's a horse now

he is an absolute horse that band workout AJ I don't know if you saw it they showed him he had a guy holding a band, strength coach holding a band, gray band, thick band, holding it, and then he was just warming up, and it was just, I was like, golly, it was hard not to just notice that the dude's bottom half is a horse.

This guy's an actual stallion, and he has to be, I guess, because of how many times he gets the ball, how hard he runs, how explosive he is, how many hits he takes. Everything about him is like tough football player, which is why we've lost them a few different times, to different injuries.

And it's like, riding Christian McCaffrey is certainly electrifying. I hope he can finish, and can they be another team that is a running back-led team through the playoffs, AJ. Yeah, I think they can't, just because of how versatile is, he's a legit a receiver and a running back for you. He gives, trust me, there's linebackers all over the league that are terrified that they're going to have to cover him out of the backfield. I just hope, like, right here, like when D. Lyman are retrace, and those are those big shots that you eat, and hopefully those guys don't land on him. Those are the only ones I worry about.

Debo, what do you think about Christian McCaffrey's MVP conversation? Because they always say V is for valuable. It's not the most best player. It's the most valuable player. He's going to have the most receptions and the most touches running maybe in the league. That's pretty valuable. I mean, that's insane. I found that I think last night, which most of us did, he's leading the league in receptions and carry with his nuts.

The reason he kind of hasn't been in the conversation, I think up to this point, is because he hasn't had that year, especially on the ground where he's averaging like, you know, five or six or seven yards to carry. I think he was around like four or less carry-wise, but he gets the ball so much in so many different ways. But he's unbelievable. He can definitely beat that offense is going to. go as two three goes for sure. Hembo stat here about him being the NFL leader

and a bunch of different stats here. Rush attempts, receptions, touches, yards from scrimmage, you name it. So it's like Christian McCaffrey is the San Francisco 49ers' offense. And then we got Brock Purdy getting back into form, regressing. In form. Okay. Okay.

Because you didn't have a lot of hope for him early. No. But Christian McCaffrey in the MVP conversations, congrats to CMC. Let's go to the next quote here, B.A. Yeah, Bruce. with how this Cowboys team is playing right now, if they take care of business on Thanksgiving versus the Chiefs, they will

make a run to the playoffs and possibly win the Super Bowl? Is that BS or no BS B.A? That's BS, brother. What? Come on. I'll tell you, if they win five out of six, that tie might get them in. Because their conference record really

is not, they lose all the tiebreakers. And they are playing really good right now. I think the happiest guy in the world right now is Jerry Jones. because everybody's oh Jerry did the right thing a hit of a job with Quinn and Williams but Dax's playing good the receivers, the offense is playing good

I mean they've got to win them all in my opinion they're going to lose the tiebreaker okay so you're saying they have a very very hard road ahead if they were to make it very tough so although we all like the way they're playing right now and we might pick them in a lot of these games going forward to win we think they dug themselves too big of a hole early

yeah I think the big one will be at Detroit you know that I think that's going to be a huge huge getting met with both teams. Yeah, and that's prime time next week, too. They got Thanksgiving this week, and then, you know, you see right there, they got Cowboys at Detroit on Thursday night football. Now, we will say, we're very thankful that the Dallas Cowboys are good at football

because they are going to be on primetime television, because Jerry Jones is the owner and that is how it goes. I think we're going to see very good football from Dallas Cowboys. It's going to be a classic Cowboys scenario. Yes. Like, good football team just can't make it. They weren't able to catch up. All offseason, we're going to say,

hey, remember, Dallas Cowboys are really good football team, even though they didn't make the playoffs, okay? And that's like synonymous with the entertainment level of who the Dallas Cowboys are. They are a show more so than a team at this point. And right now, the show is very good football. Absolutely. I think Ty said it earlier in the week. Like, this was truly a win-win for Dallas and Grie Bait with the moves that they made. But the things I love about the Cowboys, since we know they're going to be on prime time, win or lost. Like, they're a fun team to watch, especially with Dak and spending it. And then the trade they made for Quinn and obviously he's dominant on the field. I don't know if you guys

heard it or not, but it was a player after the game who kind of talked about what happened at halftime and kind of how Quinnon kind of took the leadership role. And that's, you don't hear that often with a guy who's coming in six, seven, eight weeks into a season kind of taking that role. And you can tell the team responded, being down

21 divisional opponent, like a big time, pretty much playoff mode right now for the Cowboys. So I'm excited to see how this kind of final stretch turns out. Yeah, I think a lot of people saying big bro about Quinn and I think I already have heard that from people around the defense. And I think I heard Quentin talk about, like, how it's an interesting role where he's like, I'm a little bit

one of the older guys, all of a sudden. And I played, and I've been in situations, and I think his personality lends to people to gravitate towards him. From what I've seen from Quinnon Williams, I don't know him personally. And Jerry, obviously, brings in a guy who's now a magnet of positive energy and experience, and they're setting that D-Line up in the middle for everything that Jerry Jones has been talking about. You talk about him being the happiest guy because he's moves.

George Bickens wasn't on this team before the season. started. He's now on their team with a big time move, but also he might have hit that $100 billion honey hole. We still have yet to get an update on that honeyhole that he was kind of eyeballing that had $100 billion. The reason why I'm talking to you, Wall Street Journal, and not worrying about Dallas Cowboys defense, because there is, from my understanding, $100 billion in natural gas three miles down. Nobody's able to get three miles down. I'm putting a billion dollars up to try to get these pipes to get down three miles to get $100 billion in natural guess. That was four weeks ago. Now he's back at the game, sitting in the suite. Did this

son of a bitch get the three miles deep and find a hundred billion while also figuring out a football team? Well, I would say you could argue that it might be the other way around. He went down there and it was just a septic tank that was pumping shit. And he was like, oh, fuck. Now I got to go make a couple trades and shore up this defense. Oh, this is not good. People are going to kill me. I think that probably lends itself for it because now he is all in on the Cowboys. Guess what? He doesn't have $100 billion down there. I do not know what this exactly means that Bruce

is showing me, but some stock is up into the right. We're pumping. We're up and to the right. 40% of this month. Oh, it just went up. Okay, all right. So, Jerry's living very good, is what you're saying, and his team looks good. Who knows if they'll be able to make the playoffs with how deep of a hole they dug

themselves in earlier. All right, let's go to the last BS or no BS with B.A. Yeah, Coach, Drake May, Mike Vrable, and the New England Patriots are an absolute wagon and will be the number one seed in the AFC and and and and and and and and and Stafford McVeigh, Devante, Pooka, and a young defense full of dogs will be the number one seed in the NFC. Is that BS or no BS? And that's both sports. Yeah, exactly. That is no BS. Those both these teams are rolling.

What? That's two different quotes. Okay. Wow. That's a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a historic. Wow. Holy shit. What Brable's done in New England and Drake May is playing lights out. And when you talk about these young quarterbacks, you've got to be able to play from the pocket. He can play from the pocket. And then Matthew Stafford, the fountain of youth.

And then that defense is legit. Young defense forward dogs, how we described it. It feels like they really came together last year. Towards the end, they took the Eagles to the limit in the snow. One incompletion or one sack away from beating the Eagles, obviously, and maybe becoming Super Bowl champions yet again. Pooka Naku is untacklable whenever he gets the Rock B, A. Oh, he's a big, strong, active guy, and then they do such a great thing. You know, the one thing Sean always does, his receiver is block.

I mean, they block, and they're really good blockers, and it sets up so much of that underneath stuff that Pooka and those guys just, they're run after catch guys. Tell me about Devante Adams on the goal, and he has more one-yard touchdowns in the history of the NFL than anybody else at 15. They've seemingly found a cheat code. Instead of the tush push, we'll just put DeVante out there on an island and let them have a two-way go?

Yeah, he has a two-way go. and probably that little eye contact if I'm going in or out. And, you know, Mike Evans has had that for a long time. He had it with Tom Brady. And it was like, drunk had it. Just, hey, whatever technique he's playing, I'm going the other way. All right. Block them all up.

I'm going to win. And Devante's been doing it for a long time. He had it with Aaron Rogers forever. That's a good. And Stafford's not going to miss. No. No. Not at all. B.A. Your classic quote is, Stafford, only got to go out to watch throwing warm up.

Unbelievable. man, his arm is, and he still got it. Oh, he went into that trailer. Yeah. Came out, throwing it better. That was BS or no BS with VA. We appreciate your BA. A show will roll on digitally here. You know, we're lucky to be able to do this for a living.

It's on these particular days where we get in the dumbest conversations where I really wonder why anybody watches. But we certainly are very appreciative that they do, AJ. Isn't that right? Absolutely, 100%. And there's not really a time to ever tell people like, hey, you work your ass off. should spend money on stuff that we are selling because that's just very rude everybody understands how we're doing as a company where we're at now versus where we were but we currently have a 25%

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Yeah, that's it. I feel like I really nailed it. Oh, yeah. Are there full-sized helmets? Many helmets. So we have... I think there's a few hundred of them. We will randomly send an autographed one with some of the order. Of the helmets. I don't know how many we should do. I don't know how many we

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Or we just replaced the one that they bought with a sign. No, they should get a blank one too. We don't know what they want to do. Yeah, they want to bang their head around. Yeah, put it on their cat's head and run them into the wall. Yeah, it's going to be sweet. We should send them a blank one. Yeah, because they already bought a blank one.

Boom, then you can sign it for it. Yeah, so we'll send 20 other ones randomly throughout people that purchase it. Shout out to Redell. From my understanding, they reach out to us. Wow. Hey, we want to make some helmets. Sweet.

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We get some really good shit. The putter head cover is awesome at the bottom of the screen there. Yeah, and the bag is awesome. I mean, there's a lot of really good shit. They put a lot of work into thinking of it. things that would be nice and also shit that we use so like i actually use this stuff whenever i'm traveling so like i'm very thankful for that 25% off everything hopefully you'll be able to purchase it if not uh we're okay and if you don't want to buy it we understand if you want to make a knockoff

version all right do it's got my mom used to wear uh indianapolis colt's jerseys from a different country far far away uh that had my name on it because it was 20 bucks as opposed to 299 sure you do what you got to do for your life okay and have a great thanksgiving let's take a break on the other We got so many things we got to catch up on. Oh, yeah. So many stories that we need to talk about. Are we talking soccer again? I hope.

Are we? Did we play again? We had a full conversation. We got to show this sport respect. World Cups in like 10 months, isn't it? So far away. But also so close. Burrhalter plays on Saturday night.

In Vancouver? Okay. Never mind then. Listen, we will watch Burr-Halter, please. Lamar plays today. Why can't he play for the Sounders, though? Vancouver. That does suck.

No thanks. He loves it there. Oh, he does it? Does he? Yeah, he said it in the interview. Actually, I guess he was playing for another team in America, and he lost his love for soccer and almost stopped playing. And he went on the other, and he fell in love of soccer again.

Didn't go too well at Austin FC. I wasn't going to call it to place. Gumpi wanted. I mean, come on. That's McConaughey, what happened? I don't know. Sometimes it just doesn't match. It doesn't fit.

Sometimes you're going through something in life, maybe. It's not the right time. Then you find the perfect place, the perfect time. Perfect situation. You take advantage. And that's Burrhalter or soccer. Get him down to Miami. Oh, we need him.

Yeah. We need him, like with Messi a little bit, actually. Yeah. The only issue is Messi on the field, Burrhalter will not hit any free kits. We do need him to get very comfortable hitting free kicks. And Messi might get a little jealous. Yeah, especially if he takes a shirt.

This guy's unbelievably handsome. He is playing with Thomas Mueller, legend from Germany at Vancouver. He's unbelievable. One of the legends of the game, he's not going to hurt you. Isn't he a bit long in the tooth? Tomas, Mueller?

Yeah, he's unbelievable. Yeah, he's like the rag now, the ML. Do you know Gutten Tog Mueller? No, sir. He played for Bayern. Shocked. Yeah, he was a Bayern for ever. Whitecaps' whole season turned around when he went there.

Did he win the World Cup with Tony Cruz and Ozil? Yeah, Messett Isl There it is You guys are just FIFA This is straight from FIFA Oh yeah Glory days I remember watching that

Yeah It's awesome Playing who you're watching I don't know Watching the World Cup back Yeah I mean like I said When World Cup comes around

I am highly invested Yeah And Ozo's got some Mr. Bean in him He does Yeah I used to love Oh what an absolutely

Wonderful Strike from Messett Isle He was he an Arsenal guy He went from Real to Arsenal Yeah Boom Who's that now

Who's the voice now of this World Cup. It better be Ian Dhaka. You tell me, Gump, is it Ian or not? Yeah, he'll be out there. Will we be able to hear them? Because I know we get forced to maybe listen to the non-exciting ones. Because I always have to hear every other country's version of our goal.

I only watch soccer on Telemundo. Boom. Spanish is one. Yeah, same on FIFA. Change your language. It's the first thing I do. But I think the French even hit a big Golaso type situation. I think they go crazy.

I wouldn't know. Ian Doc is returning for the World Cup. for 2026. What was old buddy's name that used to be for the WWE? He's named Kevin. He's an Irish lad. He went over to Apple. I think he calls soccer.

Van Dam. No, not Rob Van Dam. I don't think Rob. Fisherman. Not KV. Oh, Kevin Van Dam. Sorry, not him either. Kevin Egan.

Is that his name? Yeah. That wasn't his WWE name, though. He had a different WWE name. He is a, I think he loves soccer. I think he's very, very good at this. He does all the pregame stuff for MLS on Apple, actually. I think I've heard him call the game as well.

Yep. Good energy. but once again has accent I think we kind of need that you do can we get Joe and Troy maybe maybe Herbie and Al I think they might be even suited for a World Cup game put fucking Herbie up her

yeah he loves soccer loves it I heard they were close to scorn right no to score no they weren't he said oh almost had it last night it was when the US team was like we were talking about it on the show

right now if he is watching which there is a good chance he will text me and say, enough, enough. So then we started talking about soccer for something. I think it was Team USA was playing. And he was texting me enough. And then USA played. And I saw him the next day somewhere. And the first thing he said, it was not hello, not good to see.

I hadn't seen him in months. He was like, they almost scored one last night, right? And I was like, what are you talking about? He was like, soccer, we almost had a happy time. And I was like, you're such a fucking asshole. But that is how a lot of Americans feel about soccer. It's like, hey, there's not enough success here. There's not enough reason to celebrate, but I want to let you know, Pontch's dogs, this U.S. man's national team that's about to take the next World Cup, there's going to be a lot to celebrate.

We need a cool nickname as well. Like, a lot of these international teams just have cool nicknames for the team, and we don't. Can you give me a couple of so? I know what? Be Azuri for Italy. Yeah, like stuff like that. What is that? What was Netherlands, gum?

Orange. Azurri is blue. Lorange. Yeah, stuff like that. We need, like, we should just, we need Pontius' dogs t-shirts. We should be the saboteurs. That was usually my name growing up on certain teams. Like the high school kids gave it to us.

We're going to sabbatons. I don't mind. But it's not our language, though. Saboteurs. Yeah, if we're doing nicknames, let's be like the big don'ts. Like, why don't we have like a sick, sick nickname instead of like a color? So allegedly we were dropping Magnum condoms. Do you hear about this?

Boom. Ponches Magnums. Allegedly in war, there was an entire. group that was put together to deceive the enemy, okay, like deception things, whether they were the ghost, I think there was a ghost army that was a bunch of production people who were building like fake barracks and everything like that, inflatable barracks and everything like that to kind of send them off guards. Like, we were trying to chess in 4D. Allegedly the story goes, we flew over and dropped magnum condoms all over the place to let them know like, hey, this is what you're

fighting against. Yes. This is standard operating procedure over here. Yeah. And, given what we now potentially know about Hitler, that would make sense why we made quick, quick work of the Germans. Oh yeah, he was so... Yeah, he had a micro penis. So we're dropping magnums and, you know, lemon shaped. Don't forget, lemon shaped. He walked out there, saw it.

Nine! Yeah, exactly. Went right to his bunker. And took the poison pill. See, that's what I'm saying. That's what we got over here. You know, we got the next level thinking. Poison pill. Ponches poison pills. Pondch's big penis. Yeah. I don't know if that one's going to catch on. They have been called the American Dream in the past. See, I like that.

It's not bad. What's the best we've ever done in the World Cup? What's the best? Second elimination round? I think quarterfinals when Tim Howard's second elimination on it. It's not bad. That's quarterfinals, dude.

Top eight in the world. American Dream, we should be the American nightmare and have Cody Rhodes by goalie. Ban-a-Ban-Ban-Ban-Boo. Bada-da-da-Boo. We can just do Pontitino for the lyrics. Pontine, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Poncha, Ponsonchitin. Oh!

Yeah, because you can hit the O at the end. Yeah. Oh, wait them. Yeah. Cody Rhodes playing goalie in a full suit. Yeah. I'll fight through the game. You're right.

You're right. You're right. We got two gullies. Thank you. Let's put him at center back. Oh, a Cody cutter when someone's going up for a header? Bruce. Bruce.

Bruce. I don't like the fucking angles that Bruce is taking with these things. This was the best we've done in the World Cup. We tied England. Okay. There's a big tie. He's a pro. This guy's a correlation.

Why does it say win? Why does it say it was a big upset? This is Bruce. making fun of soccer. We advanced out of the group stage, I believe, with this tie against England, it was fucking monumental moment. U.S. meant soccer. We can't even close to the best moment.

Listen, just know soccer is going to be big in America because our American team is going to be really good. And we've gotten a chance to now meet them through the Kofa pod. Everyone we talk to, we like them. And as somebody that grew up in the soccer world, boy, it's easy to spot whether or not somebody's one of the soccer players that you hate or if it's a soccer player that you like. It feels like everybody that we have on our team right now.

or people that we would like, like America would like, this Luna dude, yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, yes, exactly. And they all feel like, I think they'll have chips on her shoulder, which is like, yeah, let's try to. Just go start and not, like, just take out the other team's best player the first couple games, somehow. Not nothing dirty, just like a good, clean physical play.

You want to punch them into dong? Is that what you want to do? No, no, just, you can shoulder them, right? Or hip check, whatever you do when you're playing soccer? I heard you ask Will Compton that question, and we had been having similar debate over here. I don't know if you had gotten any text. from anybody about the response is embrace the bait spit in face punching balls you asked will

what he would rather receive what do you think is considered worse spit and face i think is the natural answer that that is the most disrespectful thing is that how you view it as well a j yeah absolutely spit and face is much yeah i debuts said it earlier like it's definitely multiple steps worse than getting punching the balls what do you think about the punch in the balls Yeah, like, I just, yeah, I don't know, I wonder what his thinking. He was down there, he was getting blocked in the back, and all of a sudden he got the whole cast on. I see, there's a good, clean shot.

I mean, sometimes, you know, you get caught up in the moment, and that was just, that's how he responded, I guess. But, yeah, I can't say I've done that on the field, but you're right, you mentioned it. Like, I grew up in that era as well. You've got to protect yourself when you're around dudes. And I guess I never expect that on the football field, though. Yeah, he never protects yourself out there on the field,

didn't think he might be punching your in balls. Now, at the bottom of Powell, you know, I know what you guys used to do down there, AJ. I used to tell stories about what you guys used to do at the bottom of those piles. You too, Dee, Butt. No, that's not real. Definitely, AJ. Yeah.

There was a game I was watching the other day when they said the ball, you know, there's a pile up, whatever, for a ball. And they said, that ball has changed hands five times by now under that pile. I was like, no, it has not. Trust me. Like, there's no way. It doesn't happen. So I think I've told the story before. We kick off to the Dallas Cowboys at home.

Cowboys return. Fumble happens. Scrum. I'm within five, seven yards. I'm like fuck I've never been a part of Apollo before literally in the moment think to myself oh I've never got to do this before dive in okay dive into the end get hand on ball okay get hand on ball but also another hand and then I thought to myself immediately what the fuck am I gonna do now like I'm gonna grab this from this guy yeah right the ball didn't budge at all and then all of a sudden I do start getting I start getting shots to my forum I'm like oh that's my drop hand right like I am in a bad spot right I'm like immediately get out of there and I'm like what the what was I was gonna do and the bottom of that. What you were saying, I think, is the truth, like, normally whoever's on it is going to end up with it, but that person

is going to take some... It'll change maybe once. Maybe once early in the scrum, it's not like, hey, they've been down there for four and a half seconds, and the ball's changing hands again. Like, no, whoever kind of has it first, then you can kind of get swiped away, and then you just got to deal with people punching at you, hopefully not probing you and doing things like that. It's always the person

that is either lost the ball or has the ball that is getting all of the action. I think they think, like, everybody in the pile is like all right time to grab cheeks punch ball i don't know if it's like worse feeling to like especially like obviously like defender getting interception returning it boom then it you phone bliss oh my god like you try to get in there but if you're not first second maybe third in there you got no shot because then guys just then you just got to deal with the weight you got a couple thousand pounds on it can't breathe yeah that's that's the toughest part it starts getting real real tight in there

I, yeah, I fumbled once. I was down. Ed Hockey League, fucking bullshit. My elbow was clearly down against the Raiders, okay? Right here. I hit a circle button, it should have worked. I was told that that would work in that particular setting. Professional athlete tackled me.

That's crazy. But I was down. Hockey League didn't blow it dead. That ball comes out. Just full chaos on my ass, just because that's where the ball is at. Unbelievably uncomfortable. I mean, I thought I was going to break my hip. and my spine at the time and i think i got a punch to the hamstring i think at one point

and it's like this is out of control and i'm looking up motherfucking hockey league the whole time like i was down this thing is dead what are we talking about it was fourth down obviously it didn't matter i gained zero yards but yeah i don't know if we we can just openly have punching in the dick happening no no i don't think we can have that i don't think we can have that no if the guy has ball ball ball ball ball is super wall yeah that what you got to do it's different and he's just standing here like this. Back in our day, what we used to do. That's a tough time, honestly.

Just a little one of us. Especially, I'm the youngest of three, too. I'm with my older brother's friends. Like, good luck. I had no chance ever. Literally, there was an entire generation of people that felt obligated to walk around like this. Like, are you timid?

No, actually, complete opposite. Just would like not to get punched the balls by these guys, this guy right here, punch me in the day. So just walking in the hallways, just passing by it? I don't know. We never did that. I have heard that there was just random acts of ball tapping.

I've only been associated in my area. I'm not going to speak for everybody. Just the sly, that's the only thing I've been part of. Now, I've been told that one of our high school friends walked in the other day. And to somebody's house, they hadn't seen him in a few months, walked in, fake the hug, ball tap, then hug. So that's quite a move. That was me, and Joe Hadley ball tapped me. That was us.

That was us. What's his business, Tony? It would be a good time to get him back. He's always been a bully. Him and Nick, that's how they were raised. They would stuff kids in lockers and slap books out of their hands and ball tap kids in the hallways. That's just who they are. Now, I will say, Hadley is a bit hansy.

You know, I've watched Hadley walk into a room. There's been a group of four people that he said hello to. Every one of them left worse than whenever he started with him. First guy, full dab up, boom, shoulder, elbow to the chest. Good to see you. Next guy, double slap of the hand, dent to the face, breaks watch and smacks in face. Next guy, big hug, picks up, back crack. Yeah, and I'm waiting at the end of the line.

Hello, good to see you there, sir, and just kind of move my way out. So that's Hadley football. He's Italian. He's, you know, he likes to get hansy. What do you mean by that? The Italians are very hansy. They're very hansy. I mean, they've been six, seven, and since just saying, hello.

Since the year's six, seven. Or seven, yeah. Yeah, six or set. Yeah, good point. Yeah, you're right, 100% right. I've been learning a lot about all that. Nope, let's get through a break. On the other side, we've got college football conversation.

We got game balls that BAs got to give out. And obviously, more conversation about what's okay and what's not okay in our eyes. Okay. Because obviously, the cast that punched the balls last night has his side of the story, too. Mm-hmm. Jamar Chase, he gave an apology to everybody. Did you hear that? Recently?

Yeah, he put an apology out on his social media, and he apologized to the Steelers as a whole for sure, and I guess Jalen Ramsey does fall in there, but he did not say Jalen's name. Put a lot of words together, which we're very thankful for, to my team, fans, Bengals' organization, Steelers' organization, and the NFL community. That's a great first sentence.

I could see Jamar Chase sitting at his computer going to my family to my squad to my team fans fuck the Bengals organization and the NFL community

oh fuck the Steelers organization and the NFL community Did I miss anybody? Nope. That's fucking everybody. Nail it. Please know I'm speaking from my heart.

How do we really let them know that this is real? And that this message isn't coming from somebody that's not me, that is just associated with me, maybe hired to do this type of thing. Well, this one's coming from my heart. Yeah, for sure. Right here. Take full responsibility for my actions during last Sunday's game. All right.

That's all we need to hear. Yep. Takes full responsibility. and apologizes to everybody but Jalen Ramsey specifically. We move on. Let's stop to spit. What if that's what he actually had first and then somebody looked at her? No, no, no, no, no.

We need more. This needs to be 300 words. What was the old rules? 500 words for essays and shit. Yeah, probably 500. What years were there at school? Does that still happen to you guys? Oh, it happened to us, yeah.

We had to do, and honestly, kind of turned into pages and they cracked down on all the gimmicks. like the big periods, the double spaces after the other sentences, they cracked down on this. The double space after a period is not a gimmick. That's how the English language is supposed. I'm talking double spacing as in if I'm physically writing the sheet, you know, skipping a whole line.

Oh yeah, well, that's because you're an artist and also your words hold a little bit more value. So obviously one line's not enough. And 12 font is I think what they decided on with being good. I didn't like that at all because you go always sneak 13 or 14 in there. Oh, yeah, 12 and a half. Especially with those plum teachers because they're so hungover while reading that. thing. At that time, not all of them. I don't want to

fucking cast judgment upon every one of them, but you get what I'm saying. And they know what I'm saying, too. Nowadays, they get, catch you guys. Chat GPT would be tough not to copy-pace and send that thing. Mm-hmm. Oh, no. They got a lot of AI detection. Yeah, they're very good at that now. Yeah, use it as an outline. You can do that. Pretty simple. Chat GPT, outline, and then you

write your own through there. Yeah. Yeah. Are these kids learning anything? Probably not. The ones who want to are. But do they know more? Yeah. I mean, they have more at their disposal. For sure.

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On hiatus, podcast on your chest right there? Yes, yes, on hi-age. And we're waiting for season two? Yep, Mr. Kim. I hear you, man. We just had a convo of Mr. Kim as well. He's It's got a lot going on. Oh, yeah? Six, seven. Mr. Kim is, yeah. I'm sick of Mr. Kim. He needs to figure this out now.

for which one, the man-to-man podcast? Both, but mainly the pod. Mainly the pod. You're not going to like, yeah, we legitimately just had a conversation with him two days ago. Wait, wait, I didn't know, there's an update? Yeah, yeah, Sunday night, because again, we were planning on this week, you know, Thanksgiving treat, here we go, pod episode, one of our favorites. Because there's been a lot that's been happening.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, consistently Thanksgiving is one of our favorite ones. And this was kind of our, you know, idea to launch it on Blackout Wednesday. And Mr. Kim on Sunday said, hey, boy. who is Mr. Kim? I don't know who he's the best of the best man he's the one he stirs the drink as they said I didn't even know man to man was going to fall into the Mr. Kim of me of course this Mr. Kim guys everywhere and now I'm here in my Thanksgiving pot episodes nowhere to be found even though it was maybe going to come and I didn't know it was potentially going to come until just moments ago yeah absolutely I mean Connor and I were

absolutely floored taking aback when he said yeah I've pulled all financial backing so mr. Kim I mean we fired up the group tax the part I thought he's the one to pay for He greenlit it initially. He was just like, you know what? Actually, I'm going to have to pull all financial back. I don't know if something's going on in a different sector that he's kind of... Hold on, Foxy, because we allowed Mr. Kim to purchase the pod, right? Is that not, if you were a call?

Exactly. I trust it, Mr. Kim. Definitely. No, Foxy is a member of a potty act. And so he has had to watch the entire thing kind of take place. And me and him have been bummed out through it all, but for the good of the pod, we let this happen. Remember, you guys are pumped for Mr. Kim. You remember that? Yeah. And, I mean, it's very similar, actually, kind of to the chair company.

Tim Robinson's new show, the, you know, leading director on the mall just kind of came back and he said, I want to scrap this whole thing. I want to completely redo everything we were planning. So unfortunately, I think there is going to be a little bit of a redesign. Mr. Kim did mention he really wants to hear more from Mitt McMahon and D-Bone. So I don't know if that means a new cast for the pod. I truly don't know. This doesn't sound smart. You guys need to claim a little.

ownership over your shit. I guess I taught you absolutely not. You got somebody that we have never even met before bullying you boys. And you know what? In turn, bully in the potty acts, which me and Foxy don't appreciate. But see, we trust your judgment. So you gave him a hundred percent. No, you guys did this. No, we didn't give him anything. You gave him 100 percent. No, Foxy, that's not how this went. No, that's bullshit. And did Mr. Kim say where all of his money went? Because we knew we had a lot of money when we trusted him with the pod. Yeah, exactly. You guys trust him with the pod, just like we did. Locket watching Mr. Kim, what he does with his investments in his financial situation. He's very good with calculations.

That is none of my concern, you know. It sounds like you guys are getting catfish potentially. We could be. It was a phone call. It wasn't a FaceTime. I didn't actually see his face. You guys need to see a picture, fork, Apple. You need a set to scene with today's newspaper.

We need a photo. You guys are getting catfish. Well, we know that even those things can kind of be wiggled around. I don't even want to go into, yeah, exactly. Which would have been a great topic on the pod. Mm-hmm. a fucking country running it you don't know we got we had a whole year mapped out so we got to go all the way back I mean he's got non-compete can you go somewhere else can you

do it somewhere else like we leave mr. Kim man what he's the best in the business why never met him why would we leave once you're logged in with Kim you do not leave oh Goppy we don't need to hear Canada getting involved in this conversation it's right though let's move along uh college football playoff committee will release its newest college football playoff projections off of their rankings nobody else's it's one of the important things that happen through week-to-week basis in college football, this group is going to set the 12-te-team playoff that is going to start at 12 and count down to 1. Ladies and gentlemen, let's head to Hammer.

Dad! AP Tone, obviously you're a college football author, multiple time now at this case. What do you think the college football playoff committee is going to roll out this evening? And how do you think Hunter is going to do as the chair in the interview post with Reese Davis? Yeah, this week was a difficult week to predict. Oh, no, it wasn't. Actually, that's the same exact bracket that the committee did last week

and every single team won. So they have an easy bracket if they want to. Hunter just come out tonight and say, hey, Reese, everybody won, nothing changed. The one thing that could change was obviously Oregon had the biggest win this week of these teams. They beat USC at home versus a ranked team.

So Oregon maybe could maybe go to six. I don't see them, maybe go to five. I don't see it, though. like, we've talked about this since the very first week. I thought the committee didn't love Oregonives because their lack of quality wins. But they did get another quality wins. So maybe they do something with Oregon.

But other than that, every team that was in the playoff last week or the predicted whatever that they put out, one. So I don't see any, I don't see much changing tonight. Okay. So we assume that Hunter will be able to come out and just reiterate the stats that he had from last week. Is it kind of chalk the rest of the way, if this has? I mean, I know top four are going to play against each other, we all assume. And then Texas Techscout, West Virginia.

Yep. Which, don't sleep on it. That's in Morgan, Dad. Spoiler. Yeah, I mean, that's the line. 24 and a half. Wow. Mountain years are favored?

No. It turns out. No, a lot could happen. It's the other way. Holy shit. Go ahead, turn. There's still a lot that can happen. Like, when you, Foxie, can you go back to that for me, please?

All right, so Ohio State obviously has Michigan. They haven't beat them in four straight tries. They've been the number two seed in every single time that they've lost in the four straight. So who knows what happens there. Indiana's Purdue, that's probably going to be a win. A&M's got Texas at Texas in a rivalry game. So something could definitely happen there. A&M needs to win to get in the SEC championship.

Four, Georgia has Georgia Tech. Now, have they looked great? No, but last year that game went to eight overtimes. Texas Tech does have WU that we talked about. Who's number six? Ole Miss has obviously the Egg Bowl, so, you know, another rivaled game. They're only six and a half point favorites on the road

at Mississippi State. Good team. Oregon's got Washington. Another good team. That'll be a tough game there. Oklahoma's hosting LSU. LSU is a really, really good defense. So in Oklahoma's offense is very, very iffy.

So if it's a defense battle, anything could happen. Notre Dame goes to Stanford. probably not going to be a great game there. Then Alabama's got... They got the axe back. I know they do have the axe back. It is a 10.30 Eastern start, so maybe it's tough starts on for Notre Dame. And then Alabama's got the Iron Bowl, which is going to be a tough one.

And Miami's got to go to Pitt. So there is a lot that can happen this week. There's not a lot of easy wins for teams that are already in the playoff bracket as we look right now. Shout to college ball. Shout to Rushmore and X given their best. sports rivalries. Al Michaels obviously costus, Ari and Ben, rattle off the sports rivalries throughout the history of sports and which four need to be etched in stone forever. It's a great episode of storytelling and great sports

history, obviously with Al Michaels and Bob, who have basically been on the call for all of these things. So it's a special episode. And rivalry week is a cool thing. Like this is an awesome thing that college has and does. In all these games, not all of them. A couple of these teams will pound the other team for sure and they will dance in their face and hopefully they won't punch them in the balls or spit on them that is what we're all hoping for the rest of football as we go but there's going to be a lot of crazy outcomes here just strictly off of emotion that egg bowl old miss mississippi state will be fun to kind of follow along with that that'll be a fun one a and m in texas i see some people picking texas to beat a and m very confidently saying hey

texas this is when they get them arch playing his best football elka and the boys need to peek they're heading into the playoffs. Oregon, Washington, after watching that Oregon team and meeting that Oregon team, I feel like they're dogs this year. You know, the Indiana loss is obviously something that's going to happen. Indiana was a very mature team at the time. They were ahead of schedule. I think they were playing great ball.

I think Oregon's doing the same. And is this the year for Ohio State? Oh, buddy, 2,187 days. That's an interesting stat that we just got shown here from Bruce Brown. A long time. In Ohio. We won more tomorrow. What's that?

There'll be one more tomorrow, right? You can add one to it. That's right. Tomorrow will be 2,180. I don't know. I don't know what the original number was. Eight. And then the next one will be 2,180.

Nine, I believe, right? Yep. And then the next one will be 2,100 and... 90. That's the crazy one. When you go from 89 to 90. And that's the one that can really trick you, you know. That's...

There it is. Thanks, Bruce. Here you go, Bruce. Age. Why is Bruce? Bruce of Michigan fan. Family thing, I believe? My grandpa worked for 45 years

in a Ford factory in Detroit, Michigan. My dad grew up in Dearborn, Michigan. Okay. Is that an answer for you? Why don't you fucking ask another student question? It's a family thing, I guess. When they win, Bruce is always talking about Michigan. When they're losing, I never hear him say anything.

Whoa. You're saying he's a frontrunner with Michigan Wolverines? Is that what you're saying? No, I don't know. I don't know. It pops up at moments every once someone when something happens with Michigan. Did you know him 2,188 days ago? I did not. I don't think so. Did I? I don't know.

So things have been very good since you've met Bruce Brown and since you've known Bruce Brown. Maybe that's why. Bruce, I like that you're a Michigan Wolverines fan. And I like the Michigan Wolverines take credit for the Ohio State Buckeyes National Championship last year. I like that they think that the Ohio State Buckeyes just cannot beat Michigan ever again. And I appreciate the fact that Ryan Day has had to deal with that. As a national champion, his team's number one in the country, and he still has to answer questions about, yeah, what are we doing about Michigan this year? What are we doing about Michigan this year? It's special, man. That's a special thing to have age. It sucks if you're Ohio State

in this situation. You haven't been in the course of the robbery. Ohio State feels very, very good about where they're at, no question about that, especially even, you know, these last four years, we understand what's happened. Michigan's done a great job. They're a great foe, great rival, but that's what it is. That's what makes college football awesome. these games and there's a bunch of them this week national championship big deal right for the ohio state buck guys huge they lose to michigan again you think that propels them into another national championship run that be a okay with people in ohio no i don't not think that would be a okay you better go run the table again if you if you don't figure this one out but either way it'll be

uh yeah it'll be it'll make everybody a lot happier obviously if ohio state gets a win here two score favorite it's a lot of points yeah that's a lot of points for a division game. Yeah. What was it last year? Like 20, 21? Yeah, it was a bunch last year. I mean, we saw, I don't know if you watched the game last year.

Will Howard, I mean, he was comatose on the field for 20 minutes, and then he got up and sprinting up down the sideline and played the rest of the game. Like, he got smoked and came back. I give him a lot of credit, actually. Yeah, he's a dog. What happened to the yunk? There's no unk over there? Nah, he was playing in 1997 for most of that game.

Oh, well? Yeah. He might start this week. We know what the yonk over there is doing. What's that? A lot of Steelers fans want him to start this week. I'm okay. I'm okay with it. You guys, Aaron Rogers is your fucking quarterback.

What do we? What's it matter? Also, I want to... I thought you loved Mason. Time for the league. Also, I need to say this because I'll get attacked because people think that I'm putting Miami in the playoffs. If SMU and Virginia both win,

they're in the ACC championship and most likely going to represent the ACC. And you are trying to predict what the committee is going to do. This is not your actual thing. We need to make that a little bit more clear, I think. This is Tone trying to predict what the committee is going to do tonight off of the results that happened this past weekend, correct?

Yes. See, I got a problem with that one. When you beat Notre Dame head-to-head, you got the same record? Head-to-head wins. Okay, so that is the conversation about last week's one, is what do they care about head-to-head wins? When did the head-to-head win happen?

What about your other losses that you've had, not just that particular game? I mean, there is so many different outs, which is why they'll never get the right answer. It's crazy. I don't mean. what's bigger than head to head why they fucking play the game

who's better the guy that fucking won yep since when the beginning of time since they started keeping the score of anything the better one is the one that wins

now granted they can say but in a playoff situation in a neutral site with this particular action with where this team is now versus where they were when that game happened which has been happening since the beginning of college football kind of rankings, I think, which is a part of the problem, obviously. Totally. Yeah, Virginia Tech's about to be back in all of this, though. In a heartbeat, baby. But we've got to get the nears back on the schedule. The West Virginia

Mountaineers? Yes, indeed. I don't think you want that. Oh, yeah, baby. That's a good one. You don't want that good one. You don't want that brother. Now, on that note, James Franklin, going to turn you guys around anything? Oh, quick, quick. I mean, we had more four stars on campus this past weekend. We've probably had in 10 years. And then you guys lost, right? And we lost, but five of them committed. Oh, because they saw the vision. They see.

They see what it's possible. They saw, they saw Sam Man and everything else that happens there. Oh, I was it. Was it a great weekend? It was a good one, yeah. Who said, Theo Vaughn said, I was at Virginia Tech. That was the most coordinated fan group. I couldn't even imagine coming in there and just seeing like your gladiator-type

building you guys have. Yeah, with the Corps cadets and the marching band, it, it's a very unique situation. And James Franklin is a dog. Oh. He's owned that state. He's on Mid-Atlantic recruiting now for the last 10 years. I see, I've never... Nope, not going to say it.

You've got to think that conference is pretty getable, too, when Virginia's the Big Bad Wolf. Yeah. If you're a kid coming in. Virginia's not the Big Bad Wolf. No. Right now they are. Mario Cristobal's there?

Yeah, but they... There's just... It's going to be Virginia and SMU in the ACCC. Brett Lashley's a problem. He is. Dabo Sweeney, what a beast down there. boy. Bill Belichick's in the A-ZC. And the

story is... Mani Diaz. Duke. Or does he end up at? Who knows? The story is, Virginia Tech is going to be good again. Congrats to you guys. Yes, indeed. Congratulations to you guys. It's going to get you out of the Big 12, man. Get you back with us. You don't want that. See, I don't like the way you're kind of saying that you would like

to schedule us, because that's not good for you guys. He didn't say kind of. He seems pretty adamant. Yeah. Yeah, but he's not saying it for the good of rivalry. He's saying it sounds like because he wants a dub. Is that what you were saying? No, no, because it was such a great, it was like the rivalry when I played. Yeah, we didn't play Virginia that often. We played West Virginia. That was it. West Virginia and Florida State. So the people at WVU told me, because as soon as you said that, and I was like, yeah, I never

got a chance to be a part of, except for we had Virginia Tech at home. I never got to play there. It was at the end of the scheduling. I never got to play down there. Sucks. That has to be an electric place. Especially because they make you stand out there while they're doing it. So like, while they're doing all their shit, you are standing out there just kind of waiting and feeling. I think it's a real home field advantage. I think it's actually a weapon and special. Oh, yeah, but nothing compares to the old Mountaineer Stadium.

Yeah, brother. Because it was always Mountaineer day when we played them, and they passed out chewing tobacco, and the fuckers spit all over you when you came out of the dog. No. Jeez. Keep your helmet on, boys. Shit flying out of the stands.

This is great. You were walking near their splatoons. That was where their splatoons were. What did you say? Throwing batteries. Yeah, they used to do that. Who? Bush League.

Where? Mm-hmm. Right out there. I didn't have many good times out there. We're good. It's a lot of night games. Like Thursday, ESPN night games. Yeah, we were good against you guys. We had a lot of highlights, a lot of good moments.

Pat White decleted four of your guys, I think. Yeah, now Yukon and West Virginia kind of go opposite directions. What do you mean by that? You just talk about ACC? We, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p.m. All year, against ACC.C. We got a Heisman final list. We got a bullet in the call.

finalist. Who? Heisman and Balitnikoff. Which team? Back to back. You have a Heisman family member playing for Yukon right now? Oh yeah. What's the guy, Mikey Heisman? Joey. Joey Heisman. He's a member of the family? Like how far removed from the Heisman family is? No, no, no. He's playing quarterback for the Yukon Huskies right now. And his last name is Heisman? Why are you bringing up Heism? I'm going to make his last name Heisman until he's in New York and he gets.

So he's not a relative of the Heisman family? No. Not yet. You're saying he's up for the Heisman award? Yes. He's going to win. Dee Butt is saying, yeah. A Yukon quarterback is up for the Heisman right now? Joey Fanano. What's his name? Joey Fanana.

Oh, I've seen this guy on the internet. 31 touchdowns, one reception, and he probably not going to go to New York, but the wide receiver is actually up. He's one of the three finals for the Blitnikov, so Debutz is right about the wide receiver too. Oh, so I would like to let these two

incredible football players. Skylar Bell is the wide receiver. Like to let Schuyler Bell know that it was cute what you did at Yukon. Jimmy Morris doing a hell of a job too. Oh, yeah. Him more, back to back nine nine win seasons? No.

Mm-hmm. They need to come to West Virginia. Stop it. No. They need to come to West Virginia. Nope. Mr. Fagnano needs to come down there, back up Scott and Fox. Yeah, you don't need a QB.

So Scotty Fox can play quarterback, and Mr. Funiano can be the backup. Mr. Bell, obviously, we got an offensive line that's brewing. We love to throw you to rock. Are you guys going to be able to keep these guys? Oh, so. You know, the state of college football is tough. Independent. Ohio State's throwing that ball to bell next year.

Oh, my God, Julian's saying, hey! Just back there. Who's the Bolnikov owner guy from Yukon? Yeah, he's part of Buckeyes now. And that's his 13th. 13th touchdown of the year. That'd be great. That sucks. That's where we're at. If you would like to say we're in the same boat, that is where you would come to us.

That if we were to create a bulletnikoff at either of our schools, which it sounds like you might have done. See ya. And I don't like that. I hate it. I don't like it one big. Running back for the ball guys right now. He's a really good ball player. Leading tackler right now from Missouri, really good football player.

These guys cut their teeth in Morgantown. Now. It's bullshit. The hard edge boys who have come into Morgantown, they're going to feel proud building that place back up to what it's going to be. So other schools are going to certainly give them more money and sell them hard whenever they have their success. These boys aren't budging. And that's a mountaineer difference.

And that's why you don't want to schedule us. James Franklin's going to get those guys in there? They're staying. Price is right. The deal is real. You might flip Kevin Brown. Don't! Keep your fucking everything away from him.

Kevin Brown's a big-time recruit. He's a bad boy. He's a bad boy. Yes, he, you need to stop. This guy is a part of the Virginia Tech entire thing. I'm not. I'm not. This guy's actually part of, this is tampering.

We already signed this. Nope. No signing. Nothing is on paper yet. Not allowed. Soft verbal commitment. This guy told us. It was not soft.

This goes way back to the 70s. I first started college coaching. I'm recruiting. and the guy he signed with Kansas State coach says I don't mean shit

you see Price is right to deal his drill no Kevin Brown is a mountaineer welcome to recruiting back in the day

maybe well nowadays it's even worse I mean it's legal now yeah not worse but better I guess for the player

but certainly a little scary Kevin Brown's gonna flip around the mountaineers he's got a hard edge sure and three he's not going here you see that

Kevin Brown's Papa and Grandpa aren't letting him not dawn the West Virginia mountaineers that's what I'm talking about see that

this grandma's idea it's a great idea it's awesome and I like how comfortable they were with it all just sprays gas yeah do you see that it's pretty good

country fucks you've seen they've done it before get that gas there was one little kid kind of doing it and then dad was like you know what

that fucking thing shut up give me that thing douse it just huge fun the fires that they have built just from watching that

the amount of trees that have come down everything else they have built I would assume epic fires out there from the looks of the comfort level you can see him for miles I bet oh yes people gather on

I assume there's music playing having a good time losing around that someone's playing the guitar and he's a mountaineer it might have been a little bit of alcohol not him Bob

Tim Tim Brian Pops look straight age yeah Tim he kicks on Yeah, he's locked it. Do you see that age?

Oh, yeah, I like a kickslides. It's good. Thank you. It's only getting better to Kevin Brown saying he's going to be a Mountier. I don't watch it his film. Do you see that me putting that foot in the ground? Your quads aren't quite popping like he's one, though.

Pretty good, though. He's got great quots. Oh, my God. You need to stop compliment him. Let's move along. Let's get to you compliment. There it is, just thumping to get. Do you know what to do with it?

Dost that thing. Dost that thing. How about him saying? We've got some connection issues. We've got some connection. We're going to get through that. here we are. Yep, we're bringing couch burning back to Morgantown. It's like, all right, I don't think you should actually do that,

but we understand what you're saying. The metaphor is good times and success like it was back in the day. We love that. College football is crazy. The college football playoff committee will do their thing tonight. We will certainly judge them on how they see the top 12 teams. Now, let's get to some complimenting of some NFL guys from BA. Ladies and gentlemen, as we wrap up this glorious Tuesday, it's time to celebrate a couple players who had epic weekends for their teams.

It's time for B.A.'s game balls. Let's start in the NFC, Bruce Aeotian. Oh, maybe the second best backing ball, if not the best. Jamir Gibbs, man, what a day against the Giants. I mean, 200, what, 19 yards, 45 receiving three touchdowns. I mean, just blew it open and get another about 70-yard run right up the gut. I mean, he gets more long runs up the middle than anybody I ever seen. Okay, so let's talk about that a little bit.

What is that? Because there's people that are a little bit worried about the interior of the offensive line for the Detroit Lions. But it does feel as if Jemir Gibbs is able to break free through the middle whenever we're watching the highlights. Is there a thought on their better run blockers than they are past protectors as an offensive line? Or what is kind of your take on that? Yeah, I believe that's the situation right now. Their past protection was very, very leaky against the Eagles, especially up the middle. And it is against everybody.

I think one thing Detroit's problem is they have a lot of seven-step drops. They don't do a lot of quick passing game. Everything's up to field, up to field up. and they couldn't protect against Eagles, but they run block as good as anybody in the league. Jemir Gibbs pined in the ground. So fast. I think you said 22 miles an hour he got up to on the overtime run.

Yeah. Outrageous speed for Sonic. Yeah, I think I saw next-gen stats, like the top five fastest ball carriers. He's four of the five, and Jonathan Taylor was up there at top number one, but he is so explosive. Like when he hits the guy,

I've never seen a guy outrun angles like he does. Like safeties, there'll be eight, ten yards ahead of them, and he just outruns it. And he's like looking at a touchdown, D, but that should not have been a touchdown. At all. It's unbelievable. The fact that he's able to score on that run is just crazy. I like the moxie too to walk it in.

Like this right here, like if you pause and you look at the safety, it's like, okay, it's an NFL safety. Like you're going to at least get to a point where you can push him out. He looked like a punter kicker in there. He's just staring at him. Yeah. No, it's crazy. Like how he outruns angles, you mentioned it up the middle, bouncing out.

And he's becoming a threat in the past game as well more than last year. So yeah, it's going to be tough to get, Monter. T. Knuckles, more carries with Zero doing what he's doing. That's a real thing. They got a stable in the back field, you know, Sonic and Knuckles, and then you get one guy who's just doing, like, historic shit. How do you handle it? You play the one that's got the hot hand,

and the other guy accepts his role. Yeah, but you got to talk to him about that. Oh, you got to talk to him, yeah. But you feed them, you know? Hey, I'll put you in a goal line. You scored that sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah, got you. Hey, we'll get you a ton. We're sorry. This guy's running all over the place. We'll get you covered, Todd. He's then go. Yeah, which I think obviously keeps everybody happy.

winning everybody's happy. So that's the NFC game ball, one to Jemir Gibbs, who I think everybody's impressed with, 256 yards total, or whatever the case is, three touchdowns, wins the game for him. Now let's go to the AFC, who's got the game ball? The Houston Sack Station. Oh, not the Houston Space Station.

Houston, we do not have a problem. At getting to the quarterback in DeNeil Hunter and Will Anderson, Jr., they're special and they built their team around them. Yeah, they got a lift-off, baby. They got a lift-off. Oh, yeah. These two cats are coming off the edge. This Houston defense is legit.

I mean, big time. Demico's got them really playing. Remember, they trade up to get Will Anderson. They bring in DeNeil Hunter and pay him. The old Colts teams used to have Dwight Franey in the Hall of Fame. Robert Mathis, semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame. I obviously would like to see him get in there because of what he's done. The most strip sacks in the history of the NFL and an absolute beast came through as a special teamer.

Small HBCU, I mean, just his story is awesome. If he was getting in Hall of Fame, I think his stats would lead to it. But also, I think the story is awesome for, football. But we used to get a lead and then these two guys would just take over the game. Feels like Houston's doing something similar. Yeah, I think that's right now their offense, they're actually playing a little bit better with Mills playing, and

they get the lead. It's over. Why is this something that is unstoppable whenever you have two guys? It's because you can't chip, you can't slide, you can't protect? Well, if you're going to keep your back and you're tight-in' in, who the hell's getting open? Bupnug. All blocked up, nowhere to go.

Makes sense. All right. On that note, we appreciate to hell out of you, B.A. Happy Thanksgiving, B.A. Happy Thanksgiving, B.A. Favorite side, favorite side for Thanksgiving. Greenbee, casserole. Oh. That's a little old school.

I haven't heard that. It's old Pennsylvania, baby. Oh, yeah. My mom, actually, she's, I don't want to say my mom's a great lady. Doesn't do a lot of cooking. Green bean cassero, there was always the play. believe whenever it had to show up. Are you a mashed potato guy? More stuffing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mashed potatoes at all the time, but stuffing is perfect.

Oh, special. I mean. Yeah, he's got the right thoughts. Turkey or ham? Turkey ham? Both? Both. Yeah, why not? Oh, yeah. Apple pie? Pumpkin pie? Lemon. Oh, lemon meringue. No meringue. Okay. No meringue. Okay. Just lemon. Have I ever had just a lemon pie? I think I've only been presented with a lemon You can buy a couple of lemons, just take a bite out of them like an apple if you want after the show. That was an interesting thought. Like, do you remember when people used to, I'm not getting into it, Steve-O and jackass? Put the lemon juice in their eyes? Their eyeballs?

Yeah, they would just eat it too. Oh, yeah. That was something you would do. So I thought the meringue was the tasty part. Nah, just a lemon, man. Got it have a little bitter taste and jump in there. What time we're starting to eating? What time is the...

We're always about at 2 o'clock. You know, go play football. Come in, eat, go play. Play basketball. Happy Thanksgiving. Before we get out of here, we got to celebrate something special. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is really made a name for himself around this Thunderdome. A man who's slowly starting to kind of roll into the country music business.

Yeah. He actually released his first award show, awards list, just a week ago, called the DBAs. A lot of people are saying, is that the Dushbag Awards? No. It's not. A lot of people. That is the D-Bone Awards, okay? D-Bone is a special talent.

D-Bone is a national champion D-3 offense alignment. And D-Bone self-taught himself how to be a graphic designer. And D-Bone has survived another trip around the Sunday. Wow. It is D-Bone's birthday. Happy birthday, D-Bone. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday, dear. Can you get on camera, please? Can you see there are the camera, Zach, get on the camera. Guys, get on the camera, please. Let's go. Come on, man. Happy birthday, we love you, D. Bonn, we appreciate you, buddy. Great awards, too.

Great awards. I think you got them all right, and they got them all wrong. Yeah, vocal support. Especially if you asked DB of the DBA. I think next year he's potentially going to put it at a location and have this award show actually take place. Okay. And he might actually get a couple of these attendees. Okay. Maybe.

We've already set the seed a little bit for maybe next year the DBAs, have a couple of these award winners and attendants. And I do believe if you're looking to win an award next year and you say you'd come to the DBAs, I think you'd win an award. So just something to think about. Any of you aspiring young artists out there looking to win an award that nobody really knows about yet. it's on the come-up. Yeah. Talking to you, Mr. Worthington. Cheese?

Oh, yeah. Love you, Jake. Yeah, all right. Let's get out of here. Happy birthday, Bone. For Bone, maybe me and Foxy give him a birthday gift of a couple wins in you,

Ball. No chance, especially after them coming to the back room when we have a basketball court out there covered with cameras and they were standing in a spot that didn't have a camera. That was insane.

That's your department, bro. Happy birthday, Bone. That's your department. that's your department my god i didn't hard to avoid all the cameras there actually if you try it it's hard to avoid really legit i think i mean look at all that space he's in the one spot kind of that you can they're in the bathroom basically there's seven cameras that cover this court right now okay you're just seeing one that we obviously cut to there's seven of them to use this boom there's security cameras there is live uh there's one up on the top there's one over here

there's one over here there's fucking one up over there and on this stage obviously there's like 20 different cameras that we can kind of turn and shape in every different direction back there we got four cameras i think how many cameras do we have in it back there ptz uh no just the one i guess just the one we used to have uh two and now just the one back see that's the problem debone was trying to point out something he wasn't here when that one was here no of course but d bones are saying you know we need to find a camera to find me got a couple blind spots here he did say there's a couple blind spots Happy birthday, Deepen. Thanks for making this better. Hi, birthday, Deepone.

All blocked up, nowhere to go. No, I said, baby. Bupnug. Bupnug. Bupnug. Let's hope. Let's hope Tom Brady doesn't try to say that on TV. Tom, let's come on out here, Buck. Jeez, that can't be. That's tough, stuff.

Just the immediate. Oh, my God. I don't want to listen back to it. You should. I don't want to. Did I? It's close. I think Burke Hart gave him a... No Blanino, did.

Be a friend, tell him something nice. It might change your life. Shout to you, B.A. Shout to you, too, Dbutt. Happy Thanksgiving, man. What's the sides? What's the sides? Oh, you can just play that song. I got... I like them all, but I probably have to go... Yams if I had to with sweet potatoes. Yeah, yams are delightful. I, too. am a sweet potato man myself

and obviously stuffing. Just a party in there. Guy who's eating lemon pie like stuffing, that's a good sign for you. I don't love that. Be it for and tell him something nice and I change your life. We're in this thing together.

VA, anything for the team here? Great show. Better with next week, baby? Hell yeah. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.