The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 146 - HUE JACKSON... Yes, That Hue Jackson Joins Us. FSU Coach Norvell.. & More Life Chatter

Episode Date: December 20, 2019

On today's show, Pat and the boys are joined by former Oakland Raiders and Cleveland Browns Head Coach, Hue Jackson. Hue chats about why it is so difficult to win in Cleveland and what he thinks it comes back to. He also gives his thoughts on Freddie Kitchens and whether or not he thinks he has what it takes to be a successful Head Coach in the NFL, breaks down the Colin Kaepernick workout situation in Atlanta which Hue was supposed to lead, discusses what his next coaching stop might be and looks at a couple of situations that he might be interested in, and chats about his time on Hard Knocks and his interesting take on the whole experience (21:28-41:32). Next, former Head Coach of the Memphis Tigers and newly christened HC of the Florida State Seminoles, Mike Norvell calls into the show. He chats about his philosophy for landing recruits and how that job starts immediately upon being hired, how leaving Memphis was one of the toughest decisions he's ever made in his life, why he thinks he'll be successful at Florida State despite the ACC being Clemson's playground for the last several years, and what his involvement will be in the Seminoles bowl game (42:43-59:03). Also included is Pat's takes on all the Saturday NFL games this week (despite not being able to watch them as he'll be a field analyst for the Boca Raton Bowl), and how each and every game has playoff implications. They break down whether or not the Bucs should give Jameis a huge extension, if he would be willing to take a paycut, why this might be the week that the Bills finally take down the Patriots in Foxborough, and how the 49ers and Rams both still have plenty to play for. Pat also reacts to the announcement that Johnny Knoxville is back in the saddle for another Jackass movie that will be released in March of 2021. Today's show is a fun one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Owls Owls I could be wrong Thank you They're a Panther or an Owl F-I-U-F-A-U-O-S Get them mixed up Come on

I think it's a Panther Panther or an Owl. FIU, FIU, always get them mixed up. Come on. I think it's a Panther. I'm going Panther, finally. Lane Kiffin's old school, FIU, is taking on SMU on Saturday on ABC at 3.30. I'll be a field analyst just sitting there in the rain, absolutely enjoying the hell out of college football while incredible NFL games are taking place on Saturday. Let's go through that list of games, Diggs. We are starting the 1 o'clock game.

It's Houston at Tampa Bay. I believe the line is 3. Houston is minus 3. I am correct. Okay. That a boy proud of you. The Houston Texans are going to win this game. Only because I feel like this.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have an incredible coaching staff right now. That coaching staff just so happened to be with me at the Indianapolis Colts for a long time. Yes, Bruce Arians is going to get the acknowledgement. Clyde Christensen is a miracle worker with quarterbacks that's there with Jameis Winston. I think Jameis Winston, by all accounts, has had his best year this year, I think, than anybody could have fathomed. And Diggs will get into an entire segment here about how he feels the Tampa Bay Buccaneers should treat him. But Clyde Christensen worked with Peyton Manning for a long time, Andrew Luck for a long time.

He got run out of the building by a former GM, and now he's down there in Tampa. He was in Miami. I guess he didn't do great with Tannehill under Gase, but he really feels like this is almost their swan song, this group of coaches down here in Tampa. And they've been turning it around. But in Bruce Arian's offense, you have to have weapons. You have to have deep play receivers that can make plays. In this weekend, I believe Mike Evans and Godwin are both out. Both out. Both Pro Bowl receivers, I believe, are both out.

Which is very difficult in an offense that relies heavily on your wide receivers making big plays for you. So for that reason and that reason alone, even though the Tampa Bay defense has been playing much better than I think anybody could have expected, I think Houston gets a win in which they need to win by the way they lose the Tennessee Titans are right back in this thing for a week 17 matchup that's massive for the AFC South I think we'd want that but for me I feel like Houston wins this game strictly because of those injuries now going forward the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have to make a decision with Jameis Winston he's currently on his contract here what would you you do, Anthony DiGiglio, in your mind, if you were, for some reason, I don't know how it would happen, but let's say for some reason you were placed in charge of an NFL team,

what would you do if Jameis Winston was your quarterback with what he's shown thus far in the NFL? I think they pay Jameis. I think they keep him, and I think they pay them. Do I think they pay him 35 to 40 like the top-tier quarterbacks they're getting right now, like Dak's going to get, like Drew Brees is up there getting things or going to get things like that? No. But if you find a sweet spot, like Jacoby Brissett just got $27 million a year for two years.

Yeah. Nick Foles got like $25 million a year for three years. Derek Carr is getting like $25, $27 million. If you can find a sweet spot around there. Think about how hilarious that is, by the way. It's like considered a good deal for the team. Like, hey, if you could pay them only like $23 to $28 million a year for six months of real work, that's probably a good deal for you.

And that is just mind. Now, it's nothing compared to the baseball contracts. These baseball contracts are next level. But these quarterbacks, this is a – now, this is kind of what we've been saying right where if you have a rookie quarterback on a rookie deal you have a chance to build your team up around we'll talk about the rams here in a second that's what the rams that's when the rams crashed when they had to pay goff who was no longer on his rookie contract he had to get paid which means you can't pay everybody including offensive linemen which has been a big problem for them

and i thought that the new blueprint for success would be rookie quarterbacks, build them all up, build up the team around them, then you can really make a play and play good team football. The Rams did it. The Seahawks did it with the Legion of Boom. And you haven't really seen a lot of teams, other than the Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's and Aaron Rodgers's and now the Russell Wilson's,

and I would assume Lamar Jackson's going to be this way as well, and Patrick Mahomes. There's only a couple quarterbacks up there that can win games by themselves. Like, hey, these guys, you put them on a field, they will win games by themselves. All the other quarterbacks that are good but not great, I think you have to, as a GM and as a team, be willing to pay them. Like, okay, and as a quarterback,

I think they should be a little bit more accountable when they're how good they are and say like you know what I don't think I want to screw over my entire team by taking 45 percent of the salary cap I'll take 20 million a year which by the way generational wealth even after Uncle Sam gets it 10 million a year there for five years that's 50 million dollars you're getting for your family and yourself you can live like me and have a great time like that. And I am very reckless. I am very reckless with my – you could live a hilarious life

and still be good with that. But it's going to take something with the NFLPA, their agents, and everything to dial that in. Do you think Jamison will be able to say, you know what, yeah, I will take a much smaller price than what everybody else is getting just so I can continue to have a job? Or do you think his agent and the NFLPA are going to say you can't do that because if you take a smaller deal, that means the next quarterback's going

to have to take a smaller deal. Yeah, me saying this all is me thinking that Jameis will realize that he has not been a top-tier quarterback for his entire career. Has Jameis been a self-aware person? No. Exactly. If he's known for one thing, it's making great decisions. And self-awareness.

But I think he looks at himself. Maybe his agent gets to talk to him like, hey, you have two of the top ten receivers easily in the league right now. You've got this new coaching staff in. Bruce Arians, he's molded Roethlisberger and Luck and Carson Palmer. You guys are on a four-game win streak. He's the only quarterback in the history to go back-to-back with 450 yards. He's leading the league in yards and I believe completions,

and he's second in touchdowns behind Lamar Jackson. First and picks? Yes, first and picks. That is the one thing. But like – No risk it, no biscuit, pal. That's Bruce Arians' offense. But that might help with the contract negotiations and the caps going up.

So it's like, hey, if you could get him in that 25 to 28 range. Sweet spot. And also, by the way, you can pay the offensive line, which in a Bruce Arians offense you need because that's a lot of seven-step drops. It's a lot of, oh, he's going deep with that thing. And if you can build up an offensive line there, maybe he's in a much better spot.

And they don't pick until 17, so it's not like you're probably not getting a stud quarterback in right away. So with all this offensive talent around, at least you know you have a guy who can make all the throws. Yeah, he's going to make some dumb decisions, but maybe you could get him out of it. Are you running that Twitter account?

You sound like the guy that's running it. I am who people thought was the GM's ghost account. That's not what the term is. Burner. Burner. Thank you. Same thing. Jameis Winston,

how the media ruined the start of a Hall of Fame football career. Yeah. I mean, I do contribute. That account, by the way, tweeted me that last week. I felt pretty good about it. Yeah, well, they're going to tweet you again after hearing this. They got their ears to the ground.

I don't know. And there's, like, who else is out there? Like, maybe if you get Teddy. Like, if you get Teddy, like, if he doesn't go with the Saints, if they decide to save Drew, maybe. But, like. Jameis can make every throw. In Bruce Arian's offense, that's what you need.

I don't think. But his stats this year, forget the picks. I think to his agent and to him, that's going to dictate like, hey, I deserve $35 million. I deserve $40 million. I threw for 5,000 yards this year. It goes back to what you just mentioned. If they give him all this money, their defense stinks.

They need to shore up that big time. Their line's not that great. Yeah, they have incredible receivers. And Jameis, he doesn't stink. I mean, he's in that middle tier, but he's not one of those elite guys. If you give him that max contract, guess what? They're going to go 8-8 or 7-9 for the next four to five years. Which is what they do, bro.

Exactly. If Arians is as good of a coach as we all think he is, then why not franchise Jameis next year, maybe pick up someone in the draft. Franchise is a lot of money. It is, but at least you're not pot committed for the next five to six years. I would love to see Jameis have a little self-awareness and realize that he's not going to get that $40 million to $50 million that everybody else is going to get and just be like,

yeah, I'm okay taking $15 million to $20 million. I'm going to build up this team. Let's have a good time here. Bruce Arians took that job because of Jameis Winston. He's known him since high school. So I think Jameis and Bruce probably have a good time here bruce arians took that job because of jamis winston he's done them since high school so i think jamis and bruce probably have a very good relationship which is good news for all parties down there in tampa they've showed they've shown signs of success if they have to draft another quarterback or get another quarterback it's a whole new rebuild in bruce's offense but if you find a guy that can throw the ball and you don't have to pay him

you can build up the rest of that team that can be very good i think they're going to be in an interesting spot we like like Houston, though. I like Houston winning that game. Because they don't want to have that Tennessee game in Week 17. They don't want it to mean something. And if they win this weekend, it doesn't. And competing against the Boca Bowl. Correct.

Boca Bowl kicks off at 3.30. This game's on at 4. So I think it's a bad decision by the NFL to compete against the Boca Bowl on ABC at 3.30. Kicking off at 4 is Buffalo at New England. Buffalo is getting 6.5 points right now in New England. The over-under is at 36 and a half, which was the exact same it was for the Buffalo-Pittsburgh Steelers game. That will obviously one under is 17-10.

I think we're going to see a very similar game here. And honestly, I like the Buffalo Bills with the points. I even took that money line because it's plus 230. Just good odds on there. But I really like Buffalo plus six and a half here. And I don't think anything tells me that this is the week that the Patriots offense is going to get going. I honestly don't.

Maybe. Maybe Nikhil Harry and Josh McDaniels and Julian Edelman and the boys have gone to work and everything like that. And maybe the Pro Bowl, first time missing the Pro Bowl since 2008 for Tom Brady has really put another chip on his shoulder. But nothing tells me that this is the week the offense is going to get going, especially after watching that Buffalo Bills defense in person last week. Yeah, and I am also taking the Bills.

But I'm not taking them money. I'm not as brave as you. I'm going plus the six and a half. The 16-10 was the first game, right? Yep. And Josh Allen got hurt, and matt barkley came in the in the second half yeah he almost messed around and beat us too i know i can see the same thing 13 16 10 i'm not i don't the patriots offense stinks the bills are 601 against the spread on

the road i mean no hey lock it down lock it down todd todd stats back here. That is very good stats to have in your back pocket. And the reason is because they've been an underappreciated team because their wins are on national TV against teams that they're like, ah, that team isn't that good. But their defense has been such a lockdown. They're the only ones that could contain Lamar Jackson. They contained Lamar Jackson. They contained Mark Ingram.

And it's because that defense is so damn good I got a chance to chat with one of their uh D-line coaches whenever we were in Pittsburgh there and uh just chatting with him it was a good catch-up he used to coach for the Colts and uh good dude great dude tier link and uh we dapped each other up I'm like hey this defense is the truth he said hey we got something like he's like uh he was like great he's like we got we feel good about it he said well they got good players that also feel good about the the system we talked to uh um lorenzo alexander lorenzo alexander and he talked about how the team knows the system right and how the

team's been around each other for a long time and how they like each other so they don't only know the play calls but they know the why that's a massive deal that's a massive deal to know that hey if i disguise here, I know that I'm being covered here. I can do this. I can mess around and do this. They're very comfortable. Sean McDermott and the Buffalo Bills.

I don't know how the Buffalo Bills had this much patience with Sean McDermott, but it looks like it's paying off. And this weekend would be massive for Bills Mafia to go into New England and get a win. And I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying the odds are plus 230 right now if you want to put money on the money line. But man, that would be another celebration at the airport with another selfie going in

the museum if they get this win. I'm excited to see because this is the first time in probably a long long time that the Patriots play a meaningful division game in December. If they lose, they have to beat Miami in week 17, which... Ryan Fitzpatrick? I don't want to face him in week 17, which. Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I don't want to face him in Week 17. No way. He'll mess it up. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Week 17, got nothing to play for. Wait until you see what he's doing to his body. He's going to run his face right into Kyle Van Noy's helmet while throwing a ball. I mean, that's what Ryan Fitzpatrick does.

And the Bills have a chance to do that. Flores would love to win that game, too, just to shove it right back in their face. A lot of storylines. Or, no, I'm not going to say it. Well, maybe. I know where you're going, and it's a possibility. I'm not going to say it.

I'm not going to say it. Flores and the Dolphins just lay down and say, here you go, Bill. Don't say that. Don't say that. Gumpy's not going to be happy with you saying that. Fins up, pal. That's a good game i won't be able to watch it uh until afterwards but know that if that game gets boring if buffalo just blows new england out so fast know that

the boca bowl's going on down in abc and i'm on the sideline uh and i have no idea what i'm allowed to do and what i'm not allowed to do so look for me to potentially get kicked out early so i can catch the game as well uh we'll see how that goes i'm a field analyst what does that mean what what the hell does that mean i was i was rejected from the broadcast boot camp three times i have no idea what field analyst means i i if i'm doing what molly mcgrath does i have no shot because what she does is so impressive like she has to but like butt her way into things e eavesdrop, get information, kind of relay it to the producer, which relays it to the booth. It's like a spy.

It's like an entire operation. I want to let you know, I don't have that much effort in me. If they're not going to let me in somewhere, I'll just stay here then. I don't give a damn. I think she's technically a sideline reporter, and I don't know what the difference in terms of distinction is between a field analyst and a sideline reporter. You ever see Tony Saragusa down on the

sidelines? That's what I'm doing? Oh, yeah. Hey, Pat, what are you seeing down there? This fat guy just fell off. He just fell in the stands down here. Yeah, I think he might do some reporting. Maybe. I have no idea. But you're more just like a third guy, but down on the food.

Food? Just what you're seeing on the field. Easy, Tony. Easy, pal. This is the XFL crew, by the way. It's Tom Hart. Yep. Joey Galloway.

Nice. And myself. We're doing the XFL games. Now, with the XFL, though, they told me I have unprecedented access, so I'm allowed to do whatever the hell I want. I don't think that's how college football works. I don't think I'm allowed to just run into the huddle like I'm going to be doing for the XFL. Probably not. I'm not sure I'm allowed to just throw a microphone in the ref's face.

What the hell just happened there, pal? Who are you? Field analyst. It's going to be an interesting Saturday. Hey, Joe Yaloway can pick some college games. Oh, yeah, he's really good at it. I know. He was hot this year.

Him and Jesse Palmer. He's on a tear. Very, very hot. Just like Michael Lombardi, too. I think these people that don't actually bet it but pick it I think they are the ones you need to listen because they have zero skin in the game they're just like ah this is what we think we're doing it whenever you start putting your actual money on the line now great I have been on a heater here for like the last

seven weeks which feels very good I don't bet college football though because I don't know it's a crapshoot well I don't know what the student human athletes are going to do you don't know what they're going through. You don't know if they have a test they just failed, a relationship that just ended, anything that could have possibly happened. The NFL, I feel like you can kind of predict much more. You're like, hey, who's going to show up, who's not going to show up? But college football, that's why people love it, by the way,

because you have no idea what's going to happen, except for some teams. Like Ohio State, you know they're going to be incredible. You know that Clemson, Trevor Lawrence is going to show up. You know that Joey Burrow, who had no idea this year was coming. There's no way Joe Burrow, whenever he decided to transfer, knew that all of this was going to happen. I'm happy for him, though. Oh, yeah.

Hella happy for that guy. And Oklahoma's got a couple people suspended, so let's assume they were going to lose by 20 before that. Now they've got a couple players suspended. Let's assume that's a 40-point blowout there for Oklahoma. No offense. It's not their fault. It's just the way it goes. But blowout there for Oklahoma. No offense. You're just not. It's not their fault.

It's just the way it goes. But everybody else in college football, you have no idea what's going to happen. No clue what's going to happen. I bet all 40 games yesterday. Officially made all my picks. Did you bet it or did you just make your picks? No, no, I put money in on them. Oh, Tony.

Oh, Tony. Smart man. You have Christmas gifts coming up. Look for desperate digs here soon. Look for desperation digs here soon. Look for desperation digs here soon. All right, in the last game, Los Angeles Rams at San Francisco. San Fran has to win this if they would like to have home field advantage in the playoffs. They're coming off a big loss last week.

The LA Rams, are they going to just – they got pounded by the Cowboys. They did, yeah. They still got a chance, though. Pound. Who, the Rams? Yeah, if they win against the Niners and Cardinals and the Vikings lose against the Packers and Bears, Rams got a chance.

Both possible things, by the way. All these are very possible things. So if Sean McVay can get his boys to believe that after getting pounded by the Dallas Cowboys, what a big-time game. All three of these games matter. But so does the Poke Bowl. That's right.

I mean, are you kidding me with this? Why does this happen? Why do they got to put the NFL on Saturday and the Boca Bowl on Saturday and I'm there? I mean, the Boca Bowl is going to be electric. Yeah. It always is. It always is. Boca talks for itself. Points galore. The crowds

will be electric. Huge retirement community down there. I think they're going to bust in all the retirement communities. Decent weather. A lot of STDs in the crowd. Oh. Tony. Tony. That's someone's grandparents.

Boca. That's what they do. They do that. From what I've been told, those retirement communities are just a big porn house. They're ASAP Rocky and all that. Poor ASAP Rocky. all that. Poor ASAP Rocky. That's tough. ASAP Rocky had a sex tape leaked here within the last 12 hours.

And Nick, you watched it? I did watch it. He's just getting absolutely roasted online. Poor guy. I guess he didn't have a great performance. Bad for him. It was very casual. And you can't do that if you're going to have a sex tape leak.

You've got to be putting on a show. I'm assuming he didn't know this was coming right the real question why are you filming it if you're did he film it yeah the way it's shot it is him holding it pointing down no self-awareness asap no self-awareness filming the lights are on you got to be ready to go yeah for sure we interrupt this incredible conversation to let you know that new year's eve is coming up quick no party is complete without popping some corks popping some bubbly and you should be popping the bubbly that's the best tasting bubbly and that's from our friends at luke belair belair is an award-winning French bubbly. Let me tell you, it's fantastic. There's

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Last year, I mean, nobody's going to say they had a great roster, but Hugh wasn't able to win there. Nobody's been able to win there. It's been said that you haven't coached in the NFL until you've been fired from Cleveland. This man has. He's been out of the game for a year now, did some media stuff. It's been rumored that he's going back to Arizona State to help out Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards, who have done a great job

with that team in the desert. Can't wait to chat about hard knocks and everything like that. Do we have them on? Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, former head coach of multiple places, Hugh Jackson. What's up, buddy? How you doing? Hugh, I have a question for you. Why is it so hard to win in Cleveland? Now, I'll say this. You obviously did not have a great record there, but everybody thought with you gone, with the talent in there this year, with a whole new team that they're going to be able to win, and it just hasn't been able to happen. Is the place cursed to you? Is the place cursed? I'm not going to say it's cursed, but you said it. I think that's just been the history. There have been several coaches way before me, and now there's been a coach after me that hasn't won there.

So I'm not going to say it's in the walls or anything like that. I just think at some point in time, somebody will be good enough to take it to another level. I hope it happens because I think the fans deserve it. But you're right. There's a lot of coaches that have gone there that haven't done well and they've left there and done great jobs. Okay, so did you enjoy the Hard Knocks being a part of your –

because I think Hard Knocks – it's already hard enough to win in the NFL, especially in Cleveland, especially when you maybe hadn't had a winning season in the past couple years. Then you add in potential drama with HBO. I did not think that Hard Knocks did a great job of making you and the entire thing look good it's almost like they were building up a storyline do you regret that Hard Knocks was in there in your last year as a head coach at Cleveland I don't I mean I know a lot of people have said just what you said I don't regret it because I

know what we as an organization was trying to accomplish. I really thought that it was going to make us be at our best all the time. I think it's a couple of ways to look at it. In my mind, we were a loss averse organization that hadn't won a lot. So we needed to be put in the best situations we could be in to be at our best all the time. So when the season came, we hit the ground running, you know, because normally guys don't want to be embarrassed when they're on tv guys don't want to do something that all of a sudden people will make fun of and i wasn't worried about what the storyline was about me i understand the scene that everybody thought was a big deal but i i would think if people

know football and i know you do pat that i discussed all that stuff about how we were going to practice players how we're going to do players way before that episode. So I thought it was really difficult for me to think that we were even having that conversation in that meeting. Yeah. Obviously what you're referring to is you and Todd Haley talking about who was going to play and who wasn't going to play in practice. It felt like everybody had this image about the Cleveland Browns, and then HBO almost was like, all right, everybody knows what this image about the Cleveland Browns and then HBO

almost was like all right everybody knows what to think about the Cleveland Browns how do we make it look like this completely dysfunctional franchise it almost felt like they did that it felt like they did that and for you I didn't know anything about you but watching it I'm like man this guy is either not deserving of a head coach job or the HBO people are editing this in a fashion to make him look bad because showing a beef between a head coach and an assistant coach is just specifically trying to make you look bad because that happens everywhere. No doubt.

Yeah, no doubt. Now that part, I do agree with that. Yeah, because it happens everywhere. I mean, this is something that happens in the NFL.

There's beef and that happens and them showing it the way they did. I thought they made you look bad. I appreciate that. Hey, no problem. Okay. So let's move forward. And what is this year off been for you?

Oh, man. This has been the first time off in 32 years. It's been rediscovered a lot of things. My family, first and foremost, and found some other things out in the world that I like. Got involved in a tequila business. Grand Leander tequila. It is unbelievable. And so I've had a great time doing that, but I'm ready to get back on the grass.

Okay, so I talked to Chuck Pagano. Whenever he was out of the game for a year, he said that him and his wife were going crazy, right? He was like, I haven't been around for a long time. He said he started watching film again as if he was a coach, just kind of studying to stay on top of it. He couldn't wait to get back into coaching. I assume same thing's happening for you is arizona state the place you're going or are you going to try to get back in the nfl no i'm gonna try to get back in

the nfl i've spent a lot of time you know at some colleges university of maryland obviously went down to arizona state penn state some other places but i spent a lot of time with jim haslett who's in town so we get a chance to watch video i've been all around you know the country a little bit seeing football so i'm excited about getting back in the game at the national football league level and let's go what what went wrong in cleveland you think that people should know before they hire but for a fan base right so if you get hired to a team the fan base is going to be like hey what like i said about hard hard knocks, not making you look good, but also with the lack of success in Cleveland. What do you think went wrong?

What did you learn from that situation that you'll carry into your next gig? Well, the first thing I would say to any fan who's concerned about what I would do when I come is that there's been a lot of coaches before me that went to Cleveland and somewhat the same thing happened. And all of a sudden their careers didn't go in the tank. So give me a chance here. What I learned is that you got to do what you think is best you know and what i mean by that i should have never relinquished the offensive coordinator position of calling plays that's how i got the job and that's what i should have done to keep the job and i think i would have put the team in a better position to move forward and would have did a better job of putting baker in position to move forward and would have did a better job

of putting Baker in position to have success. So I take full responsibility for that. You got to do what you know you can do and do it as well as you can do it. And I think if I would have done that, I probably wouldn't be sitting here today. What do you think about Baker Mayfield? There's been a lot of noise outside of football with Baker Mayfield. He's the best actor in the nfl his commercials are incredible but anytime you do all that stuff and you don't have success automatically critics are going to come in this year they have not had a lot of success their expectations were high not a lot of success that's where disappointment comes flooding in but you know baker a lot better than all of us do what do you think it is about baker that maybe will either get him to bounce

back after this year of failure or do you think there's going to be much more of the same? No, I think he'll bounce back. I don't, when we drafted Baker number one overall, and I stood on the table for it, I think the guy's a tremendous football player. Now you can see fundamentally, maybe there are some things that he's not doing as well as he did in year one. Why that is, I don't have that answer. I'm not there to say, but talent wise, wise leadership wise moxie um passion for the game determination he has all of that okay and he can throw the ball with anybody so somewhere there is a disconnect and where that is i think it's got to be found to get him back to being what he what he was but it's in there and they got to go find a way to get it back out of

what type of coach you think could bring the best out of Baker Mayfield? Oh no, he, it's gotta be a coach that's going to be really detailed with him. A coach that won't back down a coach that's going to push him to go be great because deep down the side, that's what he wants to be. But you know how it is, Pat, when some certain coaches are coaching some of the best players in the league, they all of a sudden don't coach him. Yeah. Okay. And you can't do that. You can't do that with the great players you got to make sure more so than anything you take your foot and put it up their butt so that's what it comes down to to make sure that they're getting done what need to get done i would say i didn't become my best ball kicker

until i had a coach and tom mcmahon challenged me every single day i agree with that statement completely and i think peyton manning would even say that about Clyde Christensen and other people that it's that's the new there's a new generation, though, where a lot of people say hard coaching and coaching is something that could be a thing of the past with this new generation and how it operates. Do you think that could be a struggle if you get back in the league? No, because I don't think that part ever change. If I can help a young man play at his best level as well as he can play trust me that's what they want at the end of the day a player wants to have a chance to earn the next contract to be seen as one of the better players in the league they're not going to run from that now if i'm just a

yellow over screamer and i'm not helping them attain their goals then it's not going to work but if you're getting the results that you both desire then i guarantee you players will take that in a in a heartbeat that's where uh where's a place that you're like you then I guarantee you players will take that in a heartbeat. Where's a place that you're like, you look at the way the offense is set up, and I'm not saying they'll offer you a job or the person's going to be fired, but what's a place that you think has a great setup for success in the future if you were to be there? Well, you know, the team that jumps off, and like you said, this is no knock on any coach.

Yeah, we're not knocking anything. We're just saying. But when I look at the New York Giants, you know, with a young quarterback and a great runner, okay, and in my mind needing a few pieces here and there, I mean, they have a tremendous opportunity to be special. When you think of the Washington Redskins, young quarterback, again, you know, a real good offensive line, another young runner.

So those things to me are important because I've learned being in this league, you better have a quarterback. If you don't have that piece, it is hard to win in this league. How many quarterbacks are here at Cleveland? Like 45? Oh, my God. I've been through it. I know what that was.

Once you get that piece squared away and if you feel like you do as an organization, then I think you can truly move forward. As an offensive play caller, what Lamar Jackson has been able to do and accomplish now granted he's an anomaly he's a unicorn i don't everybody's like is he the next prototype of a quarterback well if you can find another lamar jackson i would assume that you should draft that person but will you adapt your play calling to become more that style and do you see the game going that way from an offensive standpoint in the nfl absolutely i think you have to when you have a guy that's as talented as he is that can do all the things he can do running the ball and throwing the ball you have to adapt and I think

it's happened like that because there's been more college coaches that's coming to the National Football League and so that has just kind of evolved that way but this guy is extremely talented there might not be another guy like him but when I think of the young man that's at Oklahoma this year, he's not probably as cat quick as Lamar is, but he's a strong runner, a good passer, and a very sturdy body that I think his stock is going to rise because of what people have seen Lamar Jackson do this season. Okay, so the three quarterbacks, four quarterbacks out of college that everybody's talking about is Joe Burrow, Tua, Jalen, and then Air Bear, Herbert from Oregon. If you're a guy running a team, would you take the risk on Tua

with how injured he's been, or is Joe Burrow the guy, Jalen, or Herbert the guy you think? Well, I think I've got to go look at all of them first and foremost, like you mentioned, and what is the vision of the organization? What are we trying to accomplish? Are we going to be a team that's going to throw it all over the yard and we have those kind of receivers already in our stable? Or are we going to be a team that needs to run the football to win?

And we got great defense. So it really still comes down to the vision of the organization. Me, myself, I love to have a guy that can do both because the defenses are so good in the National Football League. And I think that's what you're seeing Baltimore do. They're able to do both things, and their quarterback is so special doing both things, it makes it hard to defend. Okay. You were supposed to run the workout for Colin Kaepernick.

It was this massive ordeal. It's the first time in NFL history that an entire workout has been placed for a guy in Atlanta. The facility was opened up and I believe it's because a couple of teams were interested in signing him, but didn't want the backlash if they were going to sign him. So the NFL, Jay-Z, everybody was like, let's just have a workout. And if people want to talk to him privately and see what he's got, see if he's still got it, they can sign them from there. He obviously decided not to do that. That workout in my eyes, I've seen, I've said i've yeah get him the hell out of there my dog my dog is growling i'm sorry i'm normally good with dogs and my voice i can understand it could

make him a little bit frustrated that workout though i've seen players have to do workouts to make it on teams a lot of cardio a lot of conditioning to see if they can still hang and if they were to be dropped in a game right now would they be able to survive the workout i saw him do by himself there 60 miles away not not a lot of cardio, not a lot of conditioning. You were supposed to run that workout. What was it going to look like? And were you excited for that opportunity, not only for yourself, but for Colin? I was very excited for the opportunity for myself to be picked, you know, by the National Football League to lead the workout, first and foremost.

I was very excited to be around Colin again because I really have a lot of respect for him. I wanted to draft him when he was coming out when I was at Oakland because I thought he was very talented. And I wanted to take him and showcase his talent and ability and all those things you just mentioned, be able to show that from a cardiovascular standpoint that you're ready to go, that you could walk into an organization tomorrow and maybe not know what they're doing, but be able to be out there and not get hurt. Okay. And then to find the intellect piece during this workout, to be able to show that, you know, from a rush standpoint, how to move in the pocket, how to handle pressure as it was coming at him. So we had a pretty good workout set up for him that we were going to showcase all those things but it just didn't happen how bummed i as a fan of the nfl

and honestly what colin kaepernick good did i think did good for our society it started a conversation that was needed now obviously there was a lot i mean ratings dropped because there was a whole thing that happened behind the scenes with the nfl and colin kaepernick but all i wanted was for one day for him to play by the nfl's rules just to see what happened and then whenever it turned out it didn't have i was bummed about it i assume the same for you absolutely i just um you know you go there in the morning thinking that this is gonna gonna happen and it's gonna be great and everybody that i was associated with that was dealing with this our whole focus was

to make him and put him in a situation where he could be successful. You know, we want to do everything we can for him to be successful, show the things that we needed to show the National Football League teams, but do everything we could to make him successful. And then, you know, you really work through that process in your head and you see it happening. And then when it doesn't happen, it is disappointing. So that was a disappointing day for all involved. And again, I don't know the reasons why it didn't happen the way it should have. But at the same time, I hope this young man does get an opportunity if he really wants

to play football. I think the trust issues between Colin Kaepernick and the NFL are something that's obviously grown through the last three years. And he says that's why he didn't want to do it. And in his tweet, he said, I can't wait to see the coaches and GMs there. It's the middle of the season. It's going to be hard to get the coaches and GMs there. Did it feel like to you, though, this was a fair, legit workout

where teams were actually going to be looking at it and potentially signing him? Oh, no doubt. I think when I was finally called up inside of the facility at Flowery Branch at Atlanta, there was 28 teams there with their scouts, you know, and so to me, that said a lot, because to take those guys off the road, to me, that says something to you, because normally those guys are advanced scouting, those guys are preparing for something else. And so when you do that, to me, you're making

a commitment. I think the league was making a commitment to giving him a shot now you know where it fell apart at as i just mentioned i don't know but i really felt like the league was trying to do the right thing bumps me out coach freddie kitchens was obviously on your staff so you know him pretty well how much of the blame for the cleveland browns you put on on him this year and do you think he has what it takes to be a coach in the nfl in the future well let me say this i it's hard for me being a head coach in the NFL in the future? Well, let me say this. It's hard for me. Being a head coach in the National Football League is hard, you know, and I think you wear a lot of different hats. I only knew Freddie as my running back coach.

I don't know Freddie, you know, as a play caller. I don't know Freddie as standing in front of a room, leading a room, day in and day out. But, you know, again, at the same time, the success that you have to have as that leader needs to be demonstrated and to me there's been a lot of things that have happened that I think people will question that if he has the right makeup to do it in the future I don't know that you know I don't I really don't but again I wish every coach who's a head coach in a national

football league the best yeah it's not easy you got to deal with a lot of things you become a ceo you become the ceo of a company all of a sudden and yes you do and it's no longer just on football for you uh when thinking about that do you see a chance in the future and i don't know how dialed you dialed in you are to social media and stuff like that antonio brown do you think with how good he is, and this is another bummer for me, this is just like Colin Kaepernick, how I'm bummed out about it that he didn't do that because I wanted to see him go in the NFL

and show that he could still got it. And Antonio Brown, this last year, he goes from being the best wide receiver in the NFL now to something that he's the most polarizing figure on the internet. People either completely hate him or like, hey, you're our guy. And it seems like

every single tweet he sends out is potentially ruining another opportunity that he could potentially have. They say teams are still interested. Do you see a team taking a shot on Antonio Brown with all that has transpired? At some point, yes. Now, do I think they're going to dig and do their due diligence to make sure? Yes.

The guy is too talented. And if he's right, and if he's in your organization and playing football the way we know he can, then he's going to go do some great things. But would we have to make sure that all the T's are crossed and the I's are dotted before you ever bring him in the building? Absolutely. I mean, you owe that to the other men that are in the locker room. You owe that to the organization. So there's a fine line there. There's no question. But this guy is arguably, like you just said, one of the best receivers that have played the game it's tough i hate watching it hugh i won't let you know hard knocks painted you in a bad image i i didn't know

you from anything and i was like i don't know how this guy does it having this conversation with you i'm very thankful you came on this show i'm excited to see what you do in the future and i hope that tequila company does very well for you i I hope you become George Clooney, a billionaire in that whole thing. Absolutely. That's the plan, but I appreciate it. And I, again, I mean, that's, that goes to show you what people think the way people paint people, people really don't know people until you get to know them. So, uh, that wasn't me. I know that's not me. And I know my, my other coaches and the players, they know that's not me. So at the same time, I can't wait to go back and have a chance to prove myself a different way. Hey, a nice revenge tour is a beautiful thing. You know what I mean?

Absolutely. Where are you at now? Do you have a house in California out there? I'm in Cincinnati. I'm in California at times. I'm in Arizona at times. I'm in Florida. Hey, this tequila company keeps you moving

hey well cheers to you salu good luck with everything and thanks for joining us ladies and gentlemen hugh jackson thank you thank you i liked him a lot more than they portrayed on hbo yeah honestly i'm being 100 serious whenever i saw him on hbo and now i should have been more woke to the fact that editing can make you look in however you're in ASAP. Rocky is experiencing this today. But I should know that going in it. But man, he looked bad on Hard Knocks. I mean, he looked like a guy that didn't have control of his team.

He looked like a guy that the staff didn't look good. And those types of things, you have to remember, do happen. But the way that thing was painted with him not having a lot of success was bad. That conversation was good there. Yeah, it was incredible. And like you said, everyone that watched Hard Knocks going in, they knew like, hey, the Browns are terrible. They always have been.

So why wouldn't they be like, hey, let's build on that dysfunction. Otherwise, we might have just kind of a stale, boring season. And I am a fan of Hard Knocks. Yeah, it's awesome. I am a fan, but they definitely thrived off of the, hey, this team stinks. They have stunk for a long time. It's very easy to paint that picture when everybody on earth knows something. I'd be interested to see if he's willing to go back as an offensive coordinator

because that's where he dominated with the Bengals and also with the Raiders, or if he's strictly looking to get a head coach and get him to prove himself. I think he very much understands he's going to have to be an offensive coordinator. I should have asked that question, I guess, but I thought it was pretty obvious that's what he's looking to do. And to be a head coach, you've got to deal with so much, especially in New York. He said New York and Washington, those are

pretty large markets with big fan base that could go south quick. Him becoming an offensive coordinator again, thriving, doing well, I mean, that was good coming. I'm happy he came on the show. Yeah, it was awesome. Yelled at his dog a couple times. Hey, good for him man sorry for the interruption but it's time for you to make some money off the shit you have just

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He's a guy that knows what the hell he's doing. He's joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen. Memphis Tiger coach led them for a 12-1 season this year. He was there for four years. Great success. Just recently took the gig at Florida State, a once prominent program that I believe

he will bring back to life because he's a damn good coach. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike Norvell. he will bring back to life because he's a damn good coach ladies and gentlemen coach mike norvell morning pat how's everything going coach everything's great how are you down in florida state getting after it down there in tallahassee uh no question you have been i guess it's my 11th day on the job and uh we've been in full sprint mode uh since the minute i hit the ground so it's been uh it's been great you had a really good signing day yesterday and you're just honored to be here okay so whenever you get a gig like Florida State now with this early signing day is your role to find all the

commits that were already committed and keep them there or are you trying to trying to find new players and sell them on what Florida State is going to become under Mike Norvell? A little bit of both. The first part of it is the evaluation of what's in place. We've got a great group of young men that are currently on our roster. There was another group that was committed. You try to evaluate how you see them transpiring through this change and what we're looking for.

Then there's also the part of, you know, what you're looking to attract. And so we had a little bit of both, or really in all phases of that, here this last 10 days. And we came together there on signing day. We were able to hold on to guys that were committed. You know, we were able to get a couple guys that had decommitted back on board. And then we were able to attract some new faces that I think are going to be great additions.

So it was definitely a lot of time that went into it, but the pace was pretty crazy. Getting a chance to meet you and see your operation at Memphis, not only at game day but whenever we called your Memphis Tigers game, and then all the success that you brought to Memphis and everything like that, your name would have been up for every single job in college football, every single one. Everybody would be like, ah, maybe we should go get Coach Norvell. Why Florida State? Because everybody talks about how Florida State was once this incredible program, and it was. It used to be must-see television back in the day. It's kind of fallen from grace a little bit. What did you see in the Florida State gig that said, you know what, this is where I want to be.

Let's go ahead and turn this thing back to being a great program. I think all factors were a part of it. Any decision I've ever made in my life really come down to two things. It's, one, how I believe I fit the place. And then, two, is it going to be a great decision for my family? And can it be a place that we can create a family atmosphere for what we're going to do and how we're going to move forward? And so, and then Florida State checked all the boxes. You know, since I was 13, I remember when I was 13 years old, the first piece of college memorabilia I ever owned

was a Florida State National Championship license plate. That was the only thing that hung on my wall. And, you know, to think that I now have an opportunity to lead this program, it's something that's still surreal to me. But even beyond that, you know, the tradition, the brand, I think this is one of the most iconic brands in all of college football. I truly believe that for college football to be right, Florida State needs to be a national contender and it needs to be, you know, relevant in that discussion. And there's a lot of hard work to get there. And it's going to,

it's going to, you know, you know, be a process. And every day we're going to have to, to, to, to operate in a, in a, with a mindset and approach of, of, you know, maximizing the potential that we have. But, you know, when you look at our fan base, the place where, that I get to live each and every day, the wonderful university to recruit student-athletes to, I mean, it really checked all the boxes. And beyond that, when you get a chance to meet the people, I mean, from the leadership, from President Thrasher, our athletic director, and David Colburn, board of trustees, I mean, everybody believes in what this program can once again become. And I'm excited that they chose me to be able to lead that mission. I didn't know a damn thing about the American Conference before this year's Thursday Night Football. And then after getting a chance to watch and to learn about it, it's a very good league.

The American Conference is a very good league with a lot of talent, not only for the players, but also coaches. Now you're moving into the ACC which has been Clemson's domain that's just the way it goes how do you how does a Florida State team or any team in the ACC try to compete with what Clemson has been able to do Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech just got a great signing class he's a recruiter I mean you look around the ACC Mack Brown is doing good things in North Carolina the ACC is about to become not only just a Clemson-dominant football conference, but altogether it really feels like it's an upswing in the ACC. How are you going to compete with them? Is it all recruiting, or do you feel very

good about your scheme and the way you coach your players up? I think when you're a part of a great league, all those things matter. You can be a great recruiteriter but if you're not a developer of men and and you know putting them in a position to to schematically achieve then you know it's hard to to to be at an elite level and that is our focus we want to we want to work to be elite in everything that we do i can tell you that uh you know the student the type of student athlete that we can recruit here the resources that are in place um you know the that I'm in process of assembling will be as good as any in the country. With that comes great expectation and great challenge. There's no doubt that you look at the success that Clemson's had over the last few years,

and it's something that should be respected. It's something that provides opportunity for growth. I can tell you I'm standing within a program that we have a group of student athletes and coaches that are excited about what the future holds. And we know that we're going to have to maximize every day. So I think to answer your question, it takes all. And I'm very confident in what we do and how we do it. We're going to work every day to put ourselves in the best position.

What is your motto for your team? Whenever somebody watches this Florida State team, maybe not this year as you continue to build the culture and bring your people in, but what do you want people to see from the Florida State Seminoles led by Coach Norvell? I think it's all about our climb. Every day, we're aspiring to be the best version of ourselves. We know that we're at at point zero and uh you know wherever that is whatever that looks like you know all we can all we can control is is what we do with today and if we can focus on on one percent growth each and every day stacking those on top of each other uh you know i'm not i'm not looking at a four or five year plan i'm looking at today and if we can if

we can be the uh you know the the best version of us you know players coaches everybody involved um then i believe that we will be headed in the right direction and so we're going to focus on the best version of us, players, coaches, everybody involved. I believe that we will be headed in the right direction. We're going to focus on that climb and truly just the step that's right in front of us. That's awesome. Coach, what's going to be your involvement in the bowl game for Florida State?

Right now, my job is 100% personnel. That's something that I've been out i've been out to practice i'm actually heading out to another one here in just a minute but uh you know i'm i'm in the process of evaluating personnel getting to know that our players i'm meeting with every player on our team this week um you know just to get to know them and you know you know obviously you know attracting and recruiting personnel and uh with uh with players

and then also with coaches. I'm excited about where we are. We've got a couple more positions to fill and just organizing things for the best opportunity for us to be moving forward here in January. I'm going to be there to support, but I will not be involved in the game. Coach Odell Hagans has done an incredible job as the interim head coach. He's going to obviously finish it up here with this team in this game. Coach Odell Hagans has done an incredible job as the interim head coach. He's going to, he's going to, you know, obviously finish it up here with this, with this team and this, in this game. And, you know, this game's not about me. It's about this senior class and them finishing out, you know, in a special way, you know, there for this, for this, this opportunity

to have in front of them. Is it awkward? Is that awkward or hard to do? You see something that you might, you know, I mean, you're a hell of a football coach. I mean, you've led nothing but success everywhere you've gone thus far. Is it awkward or hard whenever you see something not to be like, eh, but you kind of got to wait for it? Yeah, I mean, it is.

But, I mean, also, you know, I respect the process. I respect the work that these young men have put into it, the coaches that have been a part of this season. You know, it's not my place, and it's not my, you know, I'm going to help in any way that I can. I am available. I went out and was watching practice, and I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't give any encouraging tidbits to the two.

But, you know, I'm a teacher, and whether, you know, whether I'm involved in the scheme or not, I know what good football looks like, and I know that if we can help focus on the little, tiny fundamentals, whether it's a senior that I'm never going to get the opportunity to coach, or it's a freshman, it's all about the growth of the student-athlete, and that's what I'm about, and that's what I'm going to continue to be about as we jump in and start our process to leading this program where we want it to go. When you meet with the players and you're trying to learn about them, and I assume they're trying to learn about you, what are you asking them?

What are the questions? Are you like, hey, if you were a kitchen appliance, which kitchen appliance would you be? Or is it like, hey, what are you here for? How do you get to know them? Is it like a job interview? Yeah, you know, I usually always ask them about themselves. And, you know, it's funny.

It's like they think it's a trick question. But I just want to know about them because everybody has a story. Everybody has a background. Everybody chose Florida State for a reason. And then I also tell them the reason that I chose it. And, you know, these young men, they did not pick me. I'm not naive in that, but I did pick them. And I'm here for a specific purpose. And, you know, we talk about having a

family atmosphere. We talk about the importance of relationship. Well, if I couldn't take the time during even a crazy week of signing day and hiring coaches, if I can't take 15 minutes with every player on this team to get to know why they do what they do and where they come from, then I'd be a fraud. I've got to show them with my actions the importance that they have. It was one of the toughest decisions that I've ever had to make in my life, not coaching in the Cotton Bowl with that Memphis team because that is my family as well. Even though I've changed addresses, those kids will always be able to count on me.

But to not be a part of that was a difficult decision. But I also knew that with what I need to do here and the young men that I get to coach here at Florida State, it's going to take time. We're going to build those relationships, and I'm all in with what we're doing here. It's been a great start, and I'm looking forward to each and every day here moving forward.

Coach, going off that, how difficult was it to break the news to your team that you were going somewhere else after you've built all these relationships with these guys over the last couple years? What was your message to them when you were heading out the door to Florida State? It was emotional. It was, like I said, to finish with winning the conference championship and to achieving the Cotton Bowl invitation. I mean, it was such a glorious night there, Saturday night. It's the one that I'll remember forever. But, you know, Sunday morning, it was one of the hardest conversations I've ever had to have. And, you know, I told those kids, you know, I did everything I could. I gave them everything I had each and every day.

And, you know, I wasn't quitting on them. I was just changing addresses and that they could always count on me. And they know that. And, you know, people can tell you a story. They can obviously try to paint a picture. But, you know, we had four years together. And I tried to do exactly what I told them I was going to do. And this is just an opportunity that I felt was the best for myself and my family. four years together and I tried to do exactly what I told them I was going to do. Um, and this

is just an opportunity that I felt was the best for, for myself and my family and that they could always count on me. And probably one of the most gratifying, uh, things that I've ever had in my life was when I was done with that and started to walk to the door, uh, every one of those kids stood up and gave me a, uh, an ovation for what we had done together. And they came, and every one of them hugged my neck before I left. And to say that there weren't a ton of tears that were shed, I mean, that would, it was just incredible. And I'm forever grateful for not only those kids allowing me to impact their lives, but for what the impact that they had on mine.

Oh, my, what a moment that had to be. Because I bet you they're proud of you, too. I mean, Florida State is a massive gig. What is the first thing? Because whenever we got a chance to meet with you, and you, the Memphis, what's Liberty Bowl? The Liberty Bowl is the stadium, right? Liberty Bowl, yeah.

Yes, sir. Liberty Bowl Stadium is owned by the city. So any upgrades or improvements that you had to make to that, you had to actually go politic and shake hands with city council and mayor. and mayor like hey we'd like to maybe get a new locker room in here or do something like that you had to do that now with florida state i'd assume that they have a pretty good booster in situation happening down there florida state what is something you think that you guys need to improve on if you really want to become back to being a national prominent uh program well i mean we've got uh I'll tell you, in both situations,

coming from Memphis, we had a great, great support within the city and the whole community. And there were a lot of people that committed, you know, even above what they had ever done to see our program continue to elevate. And, you know, coming here to Florida State, I mean, to say a good booster group, this is a great place. This is a great group of supporters, as good as anywhere in the country. And knowing who we represent and what we're trying

to do, I mean, I cannot be more honored to be able to be a part of this. And there is commitment. There's commitment and a pursuit of greatness. And it's going to take all hands on deck. And obviously, we're excited about the things that we know we need to grow and improve on. You know, and that's something that we're going to continue to discuss every day moving forward. But, you know, we're focused on the moment and the opportunity that's here today. And we're excited about what the future holds. Well, Coach, I can't thank you enough. Good luck at Florida State.

You and your staff were nothing but hospitable to us whenever we came to Memphis. And I can't wait to see you do very good things for the seven holes ladies and gentlemen head coach of the florida state football team head coach mike norvell thank you mike well thank you pat you guys have a great holiday and hopefully look forward to seeing you in tallahassee uh in the near future and go knolls hey you got it bro good look go knolls all right hey he's good dude. He was a good dude whenever we sat down and chatted with him. Now, granted, every coach sat down and talked to us longer, I guess, than they'd ever talked to any other media group. Whenever these coaches started talking to me and Hasselbeck,

I think they enjoyed the conversation. But he opened the entire facility up to us. I mean, he was a very good guy. And everybody knew that he was going to head to some big job. He could have got any job he wanted, by the way. He would have been able to get any job he wants. Saw something at Florida State. Excited to see what he does with that program.

One of my favorite stats ever, from 1987 to 2000, Florida State finished in the top five every single year. They were incredible to watch. They were fun to watch. And then they fell off. Now can he bring them back? We'll see. That Clemson team.

Number one recruiting class. Some of Clemson's recruit, yeah, some of Clemson's things that they tout is, you know, a lot of those guys that used to go to Florida State are now coming to clemson's recruit yeah some of clemson's like things that they tout is you know a lot of those guys that used to go to florida state are now coming to clemson that's what they that's like an actual statement by clemson like alum and stuff like that so it's going to be interesting he's going to have to get to work but they got the right guy in there i'll be excited to see what he does we have some breaking news though yes we do. All right. John Knoxville is returning with Jackass for March of next year.

Wow. Jackass Crew is getting back together. Awesome. Awesome. getting back together. Big day. There has to be a smoother way to do all that. For the younger generation right now, that didn't get a chance to grow up during the jackass generation,

I feel like you missed out on a lot, honestly. Whenever these buffoons took to the television and were just willing to do absolutely anything for a couple views it really flipped the world on its head i mean i remember times hopping into a grocery cart in the middle of a parking lot telling people to send me into a bush specifically because i saw johnny knoxville and the boys do it on tv it got so bad the entire world was trying to be jackasses that they had to insulate uh put an entire please do not send us videos of you acting like jackasses. We got enough of it We're already on it and to be honest, I think jackass shaped my life

I don't think there's any chance that I jump off of that pontoon without watching jackass knowing what the body can go through That's what jackass taught me is that the body can go through absolutely anything and I appreciate what those dudes were willing to do for my pure entertainment growing up and i'm excited to see jackass four they're old though there's gonna be some bad brittle bones i mean that could get bad i saw steve-o jump off a roof into like a jacuzzi like belly flop the other day i think he still has got it steve-o still got it always will have it remember he was a clown in the circus and he he was a guy that was willing to do absolutely anything. I mean, it took quite a toll, not only on his body, but mentally, physically, emotionally.

He's come out on the other side of it happy for him. But those dudes, what they were doing on TV, on MTV Weekly, I can't thank them enough, honestly. I can't thank them enough. It was specifically for our enjoyment, specifically for our entertainment, and they made a lot of money doing it. But, boy, there were some awkward moments.

Do you think Bam jumps in there at all? I think they're probably going to stay away from Bam. for our entertainment and they made a lot of money doing it, but boy, there were some awkward moments. Do you think Bam jumps in there at all? I think they're probably going to stay away from Bam. He's on a tour. Come on, Zeet. He had a mental breakdown, too. Hey, that age thing is a real thing, though. You brought up a good point. I used to emulate it, too, when I was younger.

I jumped out of a minivan going like 35 miles an hour into a bush. If I did that now, I'd be in the hospital for two weeks. You'd break both clavicles. I mean, you jumped off of the top of an RV, landed on your feet, and rolled, and you couldn't stand for two days. That was three years ago.

That was when I was- Well, that was because I slipped on the inflatable air mattress, and it deflated, and I hurt my back. That's what I'm saying. Johnny Knoxville was very handsome, very talented, very rich, and he would just go stand right in front of a bull and just tell the bull, go ahead and kill me. Insane. It was insanity. I respected it, though. Oh, for some laughs just a couple all right what are we doing

next that's all it was it was just a quick ha ha what are we doing next i i was pontius i believe oh my god classic and who was uh ryan dunn. It was really good, too. Preston Peace. Good guy. Dave England. Dave England rolls poop in places. Who's the big fella? Yeah. Preston. Oh, Preston. Preston and Wee Man. Is that him?

Yeah. Bring those back together. Oh, man. I'm excited. Somebody's going to get it. Have they casted you yet? Someone might die. Somebody's potentially dead in this whole thing, but I'm excited to watch it.

For correction, though, it's March 6, 2021. So next year. Oh, Z. That's like news. It'd be wrong. Yeah, but it So next year. See, temporary news would be wrong. Yeah, but it was next year. I was thinking I was in the roaring 20s already. That's not me. So that means they're filming it right now.

Probably, yeah. Oh, wait for just a little. We're going to have more breaking news here as we go. It's like Johnny Knoxville has broken both of his legs. They were insane. Yeah. Did you ever see the clip of them abducting Brad Pitt? Oh, what? All time.

Oh, yeah. Happy birthday, by the way. Brad Pitt's birthday? Yeah. Oh. Yes, right. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Did you like it?

Unbelievable. I mean, I guess there was a story in there somewhere. I knew that. I knew slow. It's a little slow. It was like a reality show. It felt like I was watching

a reality show, which I respect. I enjoyed it. It was entertaining, but I'm not putting it up there with like respect. I enjoyed it. It was entertaining. But I'm not putting it up there with Django Unchained, whatever it comes to. No, yeah. It's definitely not one of his top five.

But you're basically just there watching the performances and kind of enjoying the ride. Because there isn't. The story is very come and go. Yeah. And Charles Manson makes an appearance. Oh, yeah. I'm a big fan of that. You think you get through an entire

what's his name? The guy who made the movie? Quentin Tarantino. You get through an entire Tarantino movie and there hasn't been a lot of gruesome stuff. And then that last scene

he just dumps it all in the last 10 minutes. How disgusting can we get here? It was when he was just slamming her ass. The dog food oh my god good

movie yeah i wouldn't say masterful by any means but i think it was a very i enjoyed watching it um the irishman i mean i've been on quite a little movie kicker watching santa claus last night i think i uh i slept through the grinch a little bit home alone 2 was on last night nice i mean christmas holiday all the way grinch was on last night. Nice. I mean, Christmas, holiday. Jingle All the Way. Grinch was on last night. Baby Grinch scares me. That scares me. Would never watch Jingle All the Way. Come on. I was an adult.

It's so good. Such a great cast. People forget about it. It is a good movie. Thank you. Not a top five Christmas movie, but it is a good movie. Top eight and a half.

The Baby Grinch is disgusting. Disgusting. It's like Baby Yoda, just uglier. Hairier and the whole thing. I have not watched that Baby Yoda movie. You wouldn't get it. Yougusting. It's like Baby Yoda, just uglier. Hairier and the whole thing. I have not watched that Baby Yoda movie. You wouldn't get it. It's a show.

Don't do it. You wouldn't get it. Was it The Mandalorian? I tried watching it. I didn't get anything. You've never seen Star Wars. No, I have never seen Star Wars. Yeah, but we were told.

People told me that I could watch it without seeing Star Wars. You can. You can definitely watch it without seeing Star Wars. These kind of people. This idiot. You can. You can definitely watch without seeing Star Wars. These kind of people. This idiot. Yeah, fair enough. Well, I can't thank you enough for listening to this beautiful show today. I can't thank our guests from all week.

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