The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1467 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Philip Rivers Signs with the Colts, Dan Orlovsky, Adam Schefter, Packers QB Jordan Love, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys are joined by 3x Super Bowl Champion, and former Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians to recap last night’s Monday Night Football game as the Chargers got a massive win picking off a pass in the redzone in overtime to beat the Eagles 22-19, as well as discussing the breaking news that the Colts have officially signed Philip Rivers, who last took a snap in 2020. Joining the show to chat about the Funday Football MNF game, Sully and Mike Wasowski’s skill set, and what he liked out of the Eagles is 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky. Next, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter joins the show quickly to give updates on the Phil Rivers situation. Later, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Jordan Love joins the show to chat about his success during Toyotathon, this Packers defense, how the offense has come alive, playing in the cold at Lambeau, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdode. On this BA Day, December 9th, 2025, this sports program begins now. Football! Ladies and gentlemen, that cadence you heard comes from a man who has coached football for 47 years of his life. He's a Super Bowl champion. That is Bruce Ariens. Thank you, Coach, for joining us. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt and nine-year NFL vet,

Supporting the Moose in his Game 7 project. That's Darius J. Bothera right there. Good to see you, D. Bucch. DeBuch, big night last night. We had a quarterback do something for the first time since 1978, I believe is the year that it was. Oh, it was good time back in his 70s.

We had a quarterback throw an interception and then on the same exact play have a fumble on said play. So that would be two turnovers, one play. Those would be two of five total turnovers by said quarterback and Jalen Hurts, and that team still pushed it to overtime, and the other team needed to make a game-tying field goal

and then a game-winning field goal to beat that team. Now, do we think that the Philadelphia Eagles are in trouble after last night's display of football? Certainly. Do we think the Philadelphia Eagles are going to be able to win a Super Bowl again and go back-to-back? Absolutely not. But with everything that went wrong for them last night,

they were still in that thing, and they could have beat the Chargers. Now, on the flip side, DeButch, do we think the L.A. Chargers could potentially go? Do we think Justin Herbert's maybe this super handsome tough guy that shows no emotion even after they get an overtime win in primetime on Monday night football? Do we think the Chargers with Hampton Beck? The guy can move.

Hey, this guy can move. He's a rookie. He's flying all over the place back off of what, four weeks or something like that missing. Justin Herbo with a plate in his hand. Do we think the Chargers in Horribal can make a run at this thing in the AFC after what we saw last night? I mean, you know, I'm pretty biased. This is one of my squads.

It's one of my quarterbacks. We went out there and visited him. Every other game, by the way. We love Hardball. Hardball is an unbelievable coach. So, yeah, Jesse Mentor in this defense, they got a chance to compete. Both defenses played great. Both quarterbacks played absolutely terrible.

Obviously, Herbert was dealing with what he was dealing with, you know, a week removed from having surgery on his hand. And, boy, was he active with that hand? A lot of running around, made some throws when needed. But this is an ugly game. Do I think the Chargers can make a run? Yes. I think the AFC is still wide open.

We looked at it yesterday. while we saw the four teams at that point that can make a run in the NFC side. We looked at the AFC and said, hey, anybody can kind of make a run, and it's kind of wide open. So I think the Chargers do have all the pieces if that old line can play better. And that's a big if. So, yes, I am still in on the charges. On that note about the offensive line, here's some stats from Hemba last night about Herbert. He was pressure 22 times, 21 times he was contacted at seven sacks.

Now, is he holding on to it too long? Maybe I'm sure the offensive line coach would say that. Herbert has been contacted 170 times this season. That's 28 more. than any other NFL quarterback. And last night, as he was moving up in the middle of the pile, obviously it would be contact, but maybe not a sack or whatever. He was using his left hand to push helmets of Philadelphia Eagles.

These are Philadelphia Eagles players. These are big dudes, very great football players. And dogs, I think, is what they're looking for out there. And he was using his left hand a lot. I'm like, yo, let's relax. Then I think he did get a little, I think he felt a little something. Oh, yeah. Started falling a little differently as the game continued to go on to kind of protect it.

And I assume they numbed it and everything like that. But it was an incredible display of toughness, an incredible display of toughness. But he's also going to have to show that for the rest of the year, from what it seems like with these stats that are coming out, he's going to get his ass beat. Now, I don't know if you can win a Super Bowl having that type of situation, but let's go to the other side now. You talk about 22, our pressure is 21 contacts and everything like that. That's Philadelphia Eagles defense. You look at his Philadelphia Eagles team. There's stars everywhere.

Now, obviously they make a Super Bowl run. So whenever you have 100 million plus people seeing you in one particular game, obviously there's going to be more notable names. But you look around that roster and it's like star, star, stud. If PFF was to do their thing for the Eagles, there would be a lot of single digits whenever their starters were starting, in rank in the entire league.

And for one reason or another, it just feels different. So Coach B.A., I ask you this. A lot of drama, always a lot of drama, is what we always say, because that is kind of seemingly their MO in Philadelphia. Does that catch up when it catches up? Like last night, is that a game that they normally win,

even if they have five turnovers, four of them being interceptions, and then one fumble on an interception play? It's like, what is the messaging to the Philadelphia Eagles if you're Siriani? Or what is the messaging to Siriani about the Philadelphia Eagles and where they are right now? Yeah, I think they can overcome it. The five turnovers, some of them were balls off the hands. You know, that can't happen.

Business decisions, allegedly? Which once again goes back to like, what do you say to the team to save this? Because this does not look like a team that's going to win a Super Bowl or could win a Super Bowl. You talk about business decisions being made. I mean, if you're going to make a business decision, at least don't turn the ball over, just bat it down. Just be a little bit more obvious, just kind of crunch down like this and just go, nope, and bat it straight down, live to see another day.

AJ Brown did have 100 yards, okay? He's had a couple touchdowns, has 100 yards. They lose those games for some reason, but AJ Brown, still Agent Brown didn't have his best game last night for sure. But whenever you talk about the turnovers, when you talk about the team, when you talk about potential business decisions, when you talk about the drama that happens, like, how do you put that fire out in middle of the season? How do you go about doing that?

How do they kind of corral that to kind of finish the year off a little bit better? I think just get back to what they did last year. Get back to the basics. You know, Sequin had 120. Keep feeding him the ball. You know, do a little bit more play action. Get Jalen running a little bit more on design runs. They used to have the greatest empty package with him running the ball that there was in the game.

You know, Kelsey was always the center pulling on it. But get back to the basics that they won with last year because they're going to win with this defense. Vicks got the defense playing. You know, and but still, they gave up some big plays on defense. can say haven't usually given up. Yeah, I think that's going to, I mean, Seyquan Barkley got back into it, and the tush-push-push wrinkle, you know, for 51-yard time. It was cool to see Seekwon

running again, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. I always wanted him to do the, that he did in the playoff game in the snow when he was going crazy. Us seeing Sequan, wide-ass running down the field, it was just, that became like very normal last year. And I forget the stat that was happening, but I guess there was like he was

averaging two explosive runs every single game, or four explosive runs every single game last year, and then next year he's had like two all years. Like the numbers were just alarming for Seiko and Barclay. So you wonder, well, is it the offensive line? Well, the offense line, obviously, without Lane Johnson, a little bit different than whenever they have Lane Johnson. Is it to play caller? Well, this guy, they say, is not good. Is it Jalen Hurst not put him in the right positions? But it was he put him in the right positions last year? Was Kellynne Moore telling him what to do before?

Like, there's so many questions and I have no idea what the answers are. All I know is, I love watching that Philadelphia Eagles team last year. Yeah. I loved it. Good day. It was so much fun. Yeah. dogs everywhere. And the coach was hilarious. I mean, the coach gets on a microphone, he's hilarious. The coach wins a game, talks shit to his own fans, walks

into the tunnel, talks shit to their fans, and then goes in the locker room, talk shit to the rest of the league to the boys. I mean, it was like a fun experience. And then drama started, obviously, because they were running the ball more than throwing the ball, which is why I think I also liked it. I like that we're getting back to his power football. I like to say Juan Barkley

was able to tell the New York Giants, go to hell. I'm going to go in the division. I'm going to get paid more money, and I'm going to be the and change the trajectory of football potentially by winning the Super Bowl. I loved every story. I loved everything about that Eagles team. And then again, the Super Bowl, the biggest game. How are they going to do?

They kill them. They just kill the Can't Sea Chiefs. And then this year it's just been all seemingly bullshit. I don't know how you stop it. I don't know how you corral it. I don't know if people just don't like each other anymore after something to happen over the off season. Like, I genuinely don't know about them.

Now, this is talking about an overtime loss where they had five turnovers and should have still could have won the game. had a turnover at the very end driving into the touchdown to win the game so it's like this team can win every single game this year just feels different for the Philadelphia Eagles I don't like it at all I haven't seen Big Dom happy

I saw Big Dom in warmups he was in the back you know kind of doing his thing I always do hope he's not a frontrunner whoa from the camera runner maybe well there you go you're saying runner too front of the camera well that's because he's got to protect boys you never know what's on the other side of Dom he might be blocking something. And that's how I view Big Dom. I love Big Dom. I want to see Big

Dom happy. I want to see Big Dom doing his thing. I want to see the Eagles being the Eagles and the Eagles that we think they can be. I don't want to see Big Don. How about that? I don't want to see it. I don't want to see more Sequin banging his helmet. I want to see Jalen Hertz celebrate when AJ Brown. I want to see Devonte Smith. Those are Cooper DeGine, running picks. That's what I want to see. I want to see Quinion Mitchell locking guys up. Jalen Carter back on the field. what I want to see. I don't want to see Big Dom. I don't want to hear about his meetings. What about a sprinkle of Big Don? What about a little sprinkle of Big Don?

Yeah, the Super Bowl parade. When he's making sure all the ways, getting home safe and all that, because we're talking about Big Dom and means we're, it's a problem. No, we talked about Big Don a lot last year. They won a Super Bowl because he was a pretty big part of it. He's back on the sidelines doing his thing. So, okay, maybe less Big Don, more of that other stuff. I agree. More shots of Bradley Cooper up in his stance. Happy. Yeah. Given speeches. What do we have now? Well, well, got a movie coming out from Bradley Cooper that's very good. We watched it in here a couple

weeks ago. But I'm not really seeing any Bradley Cooper speeches about the Philadelphia Eagles, are you? No, no, I'm seeing a lot of Uber Eats commercials where he's got an Eagles jacket on but I'm not seeing a whole lot of him getting the boys riled up before the game. We got scripted, coop. Yeah. In these commercials. He had live action coop. At Philadelphia Eagles

games. Yeah. But we can't get that anymore because this team's just full of drama all the time. Siriani will get them right. I don't know. What? I hope so, but it's just I mean we can act like they could go but I think like a big part of it too

is like Sequan had one of the three best rushing seasons of all time last year so that maybe masked a lot of deficiencies and he's been a little bit above he hasn't I don't want to say a little bit above league average

he's obviously still unbelievable but like that's a that's a massive drop off and it just it's not the same it sucks to be honest and it's a tough boring watch yeah Houston Texans can't be on prime time. We love them.

We love the Houston Texans. Their defense too good. Like at home, Houston Texans can be at home on primetime. Houston Texans away on primetime, their defense is going to get that stadium to boo their own team within the first quarter and a half or so. And then people at home are like, this game stinks. Offense can't do anything.

That's a star. And their own fans hate them. It's like, no. Their own fans, I think, are just their natural reaction to watch this Houston Texans defense is, brer. We're not going to do anything. today because that's how good that particular team is. And the Eagles now have become that as well,

because there's no more, just all drama, which I guess we could enjoy. Chargers on the flip side, great uniforms. Great unis. Global. Great unis. Yep. Great display of toughness from Justin Hurd.

I don't like that he had no emotions. Coach, wins the game, overtime. Defense gets their fifth turnover, fourth pick, boom, right here. This is first down, by the way. Have a lot of time to potentially go score a touchdown, win this game. Door it away.

How do we talk about the Philadelphia Eagles if they win this game, which they certainly could have? Cameron Dicker had to hit a big ball at the end of regulation to send it to overtime. Then they're driving to potentially score a touchdown. Chargers defense, very, very stingy. I mean, shout to the Chargers defense for the night that they had. We all put that on Jalen Hertz as opposed to also, hey, somebody had to do all of those plays. Justin Herbert, after they went there, no emotion, none at all. We like that, we don't like that.

What are your thoughts on it? I love it. My damn hand hurts a lot. But we just won this time of bitch. You think he's thinking about the hand. I didn't even think about that. I should have been pushing them guys off with his hand. Next week, I'm not doing that shit.

How do you feel about Herbert? Because I think the prospect of Herbert was tall, athletic, loves ball. Can he handle the moment? Was like the conversation coming out of Oregon. I think we all think, yes, he can, but they haven't really since he's been going. Now, there's a lot of things around him that have obviously caused those events. But what are your thoughts on Justin Herbert's quarterback? We love him around here.

I think he's one of the best and not the best thrower in the. the league right now. And, I mean, some of the throws he makes, because he's always moving, because they can't block anybody. And his athleticism shows up all the time. But he's running to his left, and he just throws one sidearm back to the right, like it's nothing. And he breaks all the rules. Don't throw it back over the middle when you're scrambling. Hell, he completes them all the time. Yeah, he's a little bit of an outlaw. Yeah, he and Patrick Mahomes. They have that off-platform ability that none of these other guys have. You don't really get talked about much in that particular aspect there at DeButch. Nobody's

talking about Herbert's, because in LA, Matthew Stafford's there. So Matthew Stafford can obviously spin it. Herbert, big, tall, athletic, good quarterback, tough quarterback. It's kind of the conversation. Arm talent, B.A. says need to be talked about a little bit more. Anything else you think? No, we talk about it. We talked about his arm talent, for sure, because you see, and that's, you know, I fell in love. That's why I became a fan of the charges, literally seeing him play from day one when he was throwing in action after Tyra Taylor got stabbed in the chest before the game. He's made, and even, I think it's sophomore year going into his junior

Oregon, he was kind of like the guy that was going to be like that number one overall pick because of all of those physical tools. Like the big, it was a 27 point comeback, I think the Jags had against him in the playoffs. That's going to be over his head until he gets to the playoffs and makes some things happen. So

that's kind of what's going to be talked about with Justin Herbert until he gets over that hump. But as far as physical tools, as far as like being a leader, I think he became more of a leader when Harbaugh came over in different ways. He has everything you want from the quarterback position when it comes to, like, building the quarterback on Matt and doing all the things.

The guy can run. Guy can make all the throws. Got it, teammates love. He has all those things. Here's how Dan Orlovsky described last night's game. Hertz was awful. The Eagles are in shock on way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, warier legend.

Didn't know which word to use, I think. Hell, yeah. Again, he was also in the middle of Monster, Monstrous University last day. So good. So he's just trying to think. clever ways to describe different things. He tossed four of those things together and say whichever one you want to pick. It's kind of

a finish your own sentence deal. Herbert is an animal. Good. Herbert is a warrior. Good. Herbert is a legend. Good. Is what Dan Rolovsky wanted to say? He loves him. I think you've loved him since the beginning. He's stunk last night, though. Herbert? Yeah.

I think, you know, obviously both quarterbacks did. Maybe they were overtaken by what Osowski and Mike Wazowski and Sully. Yeah. Yeah, how was that? Do we watch that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Wasowski in the slot, first of all, offense and defense problem.

You should have seen his China route. It was one of the best I've ever seen. Then Sully, I mean, can you say enough about a guy who's scoring touchdowns ever in back and coming off the edge? Ty made a salient point just about how Eagles not chipping Sully. What are you doing? You kind of have to have at least four eyes, four hands, four arms on him. But Wazowski's got to be able to see over the line. I mean, Sully is jumping routes all night long.

A lot of pressure. Yeah, well, not even that much pressure. you're more of Wazowski just kind of panicking, you know? And again, when he does get the rock in space, Wazowski, see you. Those flames are real. And Sully, again, he kind of ended up edging out. Wazowski probably... Okay, so which one's just so you're doing...

Wazowski is the green guy. That's Sully. And Sully, like I said, he was everywhere with the Chargers. He blended in a little because of the baby blue jersey. He's in his baby blue fur. But right there, boom. He's in Wazowski's pocket. And that is something you can't teach.

And when you look at Wuzowski. Where's it going? He's going to celebrate with his voice. That was the game selling interception. Wasowski, I mean, just a terrible route. Wasowski, I mean, he's late throw, too, though. Late throw for sure. But Wuzowski also had his hand up early.

So it's not a thing. Yeah, completely kind of selling it. And again, Sully, you can't. And again, I would like to say, you know, hey, I'm kind of fluffing this up for Sully. Wazowski, he runs a good corner. Not a good slant. But Sully was just...

He might have a hurt right foot. There's a chance. Yeah, maybe that's why he couldn't do it. Maybe he couldn't get going. So I tried to watch, and it was on commercial. Yeah, they're about 15, 20 minutes behind the actual game, which made it difficult. Was that the actual score down there?

Because remember, Orlovsky said we're not doing score. Yeah, that was not true. Okay, because that's why I did not want to go over there because I was like, I'd like to know the score of the game. I was expecting the same thing to have a bunch of goofball shit on the bottom with how we were doing the score. And then, you know, I was shocked to find out, no, we are just, we're playing football here. This is Mike Wazzowski versus Sully head up.

And a lot of people would argue that the better man won last night because Sully was all over the field, dominating the game from multiple different positions. All right. Well, I'm happy to hear that everything worked out well in the Monster universe. Where did that game take place? That was at Montropolis. Fantastic City. Very scary. Fantastic, though.

Clean. Sold out? Sold out? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone in Monstropolis showed up, though. It was... It looks like it's about 6,000, 10,000 people there. Sorry, monsters, I guess,

would be the proper term? Well, and the flying monsters do not get seats. They are rotating outside. You can kind of see how they're looking through the glass. Yeah, bingo. The looking glass, got it. So... What, the albino monster?

Yeah, who's on what team? Why didn't they have jerseys on? They're just... Well, Michael Zouski's green, eagle. Soley's blue. I'm talking about the crowd. I'm talking about the crowd. Crowd just seems to not know what they're even there. It's a point to see a good ball.

They're just celebrating the whole time. They might be the best fans in all. International crowd. Yeah, a lot of Europeans. Okay, got it. Yeah, exactly. Shout to Montstrosse University. Yeah, Montropolis.

There it is. That was unbelievable. And it was hilarious if you watched it. How serious Dano was taking it. Watch this route by Mike Wozowski right here. It was like laugh out loud, funny. the entire time I had a ball

every time I flipped over I was like you know what I'm not gonna watch the whole game on here but Dano is really selling that they need to do one of these every year

and he needs to do it Foxy has a little audio here defense that is unlike anything guys look at Mike Rosowski get vertical we call this a corner route you go up straight and then

yeah clean and they really need and I know they'll never do it that's why Dan's on all the shit great work Dano so good so good Call him, yeah, please call him.

What a performance out of Dano Lovsky. That might be his best stuff. Joe and Troy, respectfully. Respectfully. Need to get over to Monstropolis. I love that they're doing the actual game. Let's swap. Because I...

You want Dano and actual Monday Night Football? Yeah, yeah. Well, no one's going to watch it. Because if Wazowski and Sully are on the field, guess what everyone's watching? Wuzzowski and Sully. I'm excited to see what those numbers are. The couple of them have done really well.

Yeah. CBS had what? Slime game. That was kind of the beginning of this whole thing, right? Because Nate... Oh, the MVP? Yeah, that was on Nickelode and Drew Brees' last year. Nate Burleson.

Yep. And Iron Eagle. No, and also the kid. Oh, Lex Lumpkin! Yeah, the kid killed it. Remember, he was from India, I think. Yeah. Kid absolutely killed it.

I remember us watching that. And I was very appreciative of the fact that they're trying to, like, you know, maybe open the audience a little bit. And I like the fact that everybody doesn't just get pissed off about it. Yeah. You know, it feels like everybody could, football people, could just get mad about something being different. It being in a completely different location, set up in a way now that everybody understands what it is, basically.

Ten minutes behind is crazy. That's going to be very tough to keep up with. But I like that this is and has become an option. And it sounds like last night you guys smashing success. I'm not even- I'm going to watch it back, obviously, for film purposes, whenever I judge a charge is going down the road. Yeah, not to mention for scouting purposes when, you know, the Colts run into Wazowski. But I'm not kidding.

It was so entertaining. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, straight out of Monstropolis, Danerlo. What up? Hey, the boys were pumped with how serious you took Wishnowski's like break. I'm sorry. I am so sorry. The boys are very thankful for how you went about doing your job last night. As if you were calling an actual game, they're very appreciative.

Ty said he laughed out loud numerous times listening to you break down both Sully and Wazowski's football play. Ty texted me in the middle of the game He's like, why the Something aren't the Eagles chipping? No, why aren't the Eagles chipping Sully? He's like, what's going on with it? So, dude, I had fun with it. I honestly think, I don't know.

I try not to take a two football series, but it was every play. I was like, I throw it to Mike was out. It's a strategy. Hey, what's you think of the game? Have you seen the actual game? I don't know how this works. You didn't play, actually.

He had four turns. I would tell you, honestly, like the monster element of it, my wife sent me three videos of my son, Madden, just losing his mind. I really only do it because of my son Madden because he loved with his autism. Like, this is his favorite thing in the world. And, like, for example, he woke up this morning, who won the game? and he's like become very passionate about the eagle so it's like hey dude um so he lost it overtime and he was like starting to get angry i was like but in monstropolis mike wasowski and the eagles won because the chair canisters and he was like oh okay good

okay good so um that that was it was fun it was fun uh football wise i've watched the tape yes i actually like a lot of the things that the eagles did offensively um um and I was more I'm okay No go on this is very Orlovsky monstrosity Wasowski taped

though? I would must I was much more encouraged from the Eagles offense last night than I was many games this year From the play calls the offense or not Jalen

just the play calls or everything just the play calls the style of offense they got they were way more scheme diverse they had way more route options there were guys open more consistently last night than there have been all season.

Now, are there things that you sit there and go got to fix? Yes, like the first interception, that is the chaos play, where it's the pick, the fumble, all that stuff. I would say this is once again, it's very similar to the Chicago play of last week, this plays bananas. But if you remember the Chicago play of last week where Jalen Hertz and Devante are on different pages, you know, and they missed that touchdown, it's almost the same exact thing. One, it's empty. There's no backs in the backfield. The defense pressures it.

Jalen throws it to A.J. Brown, and I would sit there and say, Jalen, this is the second week in a row. We're an empty. Defense pressures. There's nobody in the middle of field 20 yards deep. If you get to a line, we got to be able to see that and say, no, I'm not throwing because they drop a defensive tackle out. So, one, you've got to grow and kind of really.

what the answer is for empty. Yes, that. The second pick, it's on Devante Smith. He falls on the curl. That's where the ball should get thrown 100% of the time. A hundred out of 100 times that ball gets thrown there. Good play by the DB. That picks on Devante Smith. The third pick goes off A.J. Brown's hands. People are calling a hospital ball. I call it a tight window throw. Would I like it to be six inches lower? Absolutely. Should A.J. Brown catch it? Absolutely. And then the final pick, it's a force throw. Yeah, so I'm putting that one on Jalen Hertz. Probably hand the RPO off in that situation. But other than that, dude, like, I thought the play action game was a lot better. There's a missed touchdown throw on a post route that he's got that he doesn't

pull. So I walk away watching that take going, I'm more encouraged about the Eagles potential offensively than I was over the last four or five weeks, just because it was the most diverse scheme that they've presented and I think there's a lot of good to build off of. All right, well we appreciate that analysis. So he had two picks and a fumble, but obviously one of those picks and a fumble came on the same

play in your eyes. The team had the other two picks that lead to the five total turnovers for the Philadelphia Eagles. But you liked how they're using space. You liked how Batula was calling a little bit of a surprising game. You like seeing Sequin in a wide ass open off the Tush-bush kind of decoy.

We like seeing that because that was like reminiscent of last year. I like hearing that you say you like more stuff because, boy, watching Sequin do that took me back to the good old days with this Philadelphia Eagles team. Yeah. Last year. Him into what, nobody around them. The camera even was like, oh, yeah, we were doing this last year all the time. It felt like it was, you know, a trip back in time.

And then, you know, they lose. You'll see more the rest of the season, though, with their schedule to finish out. Yeah, I think some of the runs were really good. I would have run it more. I will reiterate for the three billionth time this season. year, go under center more. Stop living in the shotgun if you're not going to run the quarterback or go heavy RPO, put the quarterback under Sender Moore. But I know it's a loss and I know that the stat line and Jalen at the end of the day, poor, like, yes, I think that there's a lot of good

that can be built off just kind of at least the X's and O's part of what they did. What's this? Jaylon Hurts, yeah. There's too much shotgun. It makes me sick. All right. All right. Well, get better, okay, because we need you. You're having a great season. What do you think about Phil Rivers potentially being a quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts? I didn't like the way your NFL Live Emmy Award winning Super NFL crew reacted to the news last night. Now, Scott Van Pelt obviously trying to do his best to do his thing. Jason Kelsey, Ryan Clark, Swagoo. Yeah, Fagu is not happy.

Swagoo. Not found it. Just an immediate. And Troy saying, I think I could give you one game if I had to. I'm out taking a peg. Well, if that's what you're worried about, Troy, we're not worried about you. Okay, if that's what you're thinking about. But on that note, Troy, if you can spin it, you look super healthy right now.

And I know you've been drinking healthy beer. Maybe you can do it. He knows the offense. We're going into week 15. Okay, so there's a lot of conversation about what quarterback should the Colts think about signing? Because obviously, our backup quarterback for a large portion of that game last week in Jacksonville was Tyler Warren. So we have ripping on the practice squad. They worked out a bunch of quarterbacks, including Phil Rivers.

I think Sam Ellinger was also a part of the workout. He, with the Colts, the last three, four years, knows the offense. I think that's the most important thing at this stage. Now, Phil Rivers, yeah, I mean, he was playing with TY. Phil Rivers is currently a semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame, which means you haven't played five years. So, I mean, that means he has not played football in the NFL in five years, not taking a snap, he's not going hit, has not done a practice,

has not done any of that. which is why he's up for the Hall of Fame, which if he was to do that again in play, he would push the Hall of Fame another five years, which Phil Rivers might still be playing them. We're not hard of century. Dan, your thoughts on Phil Rivers, because I'll say this, knows the offense, okay? Shane Steichen was with him in Los Angeles, as was Frank, which is why he was the decision made years ago for him to come here.

He definitely still spinning. We know his high school football team wanted to stay championship lost that game. So he's been around, he's been winning. He's got 10 kids now and a grandbaby. What do you think about Phil Rivers potentially being a quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts? And leading him to the playoffs. Thank you. Yeah, if Riley Leonard is healthy, I would go with Riley Leonard.

I don't know what that looks like. I actually thought Riley played pretty darn well, given the circumstances last week and threw it well. God bless, Philip, 44. I have no idea how he is capable of even doing an NFL workout, let alone. going and playing in an NFL game. Leading him to the playoffs, feels like a stretch. What?

I'm fascinated the fact that he actually is entertaining this, let alone it might actually happen. 44 years old, dude. I'm flabbergasted. I never happened before in the NFL. Well, hold on. There has been 44-plus-year-olds. Vinnie Testiverty? Not only him.

Steve Dabberg? You remember how he could spin the ball? Steve Dabberg was all over to play. He's 44. Tom Brady was 45. And then, let's not forget, Western Pennsylvania legend, George Blanda. Now, he didn't start. But he was 48 years old on that football field making plays. One of his final games, he had three passes, three pass attempts.

He was also the kicker. Nope, one completion, one interception and one incompletion. Two out of three of them didn't touch the ground. And that's what 48-year-old George Bland was able to do back in the day without the modern science. Warren Moon, obviously a little bit more mobile maybe than Philip Rivers, but also Warren Moon, absolute dog. could still play right now, Warren Moon, if he had to. So I appreciate that.

And then he put Phil Ray up there. That makes sense. It's happened before, Dan, just because you can't do it, okay? I can't do it, yeah. Steve DeBerg could do it. Phil Rivers can't do it. You don't think he stays young? I think he's got two-year-old at all.

Yeah, he does. He's staying young. Where's your breeze right now? Yeah. It's still 44 years old, man. I'm 38. I'm 38, I thought about it. And then I remember they're probably on a drug test me on a way in.

It's like, well, you wouldn't pass? Might as well not hurt my shoulder. Go ahead and fail that thing. All right, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rooski. Dan, Dan, Dan, oh, Dan, Wiesowski here. Now, there's some other news around the Indianapolis quarterback market that I've learned of. Danny Jones will be getting his Achilles surgery this afternoon in New York.

Godspeed to him. And I got a chance to chat with him since the end. injury happened and I just relayed the message to him thank you man like thank you for choosing Indianapolis because there was a higher offer elsewhere chose Indianapolis because he thought he would have an opportunity to play and to start and everything like that he does immediately upon entering the building kind of becomes a leader in there becomes somebody that everybody has faith in wins the starting job I think long before it was announced publicly that he was going to be the starter goes out with the boys drinks with the boys hangs in a locker room like everything

about him and what he was for the Colts is what we needed here after everything that was happening maybe in the years past in that building with the coach in the locker room and then it worked. It was working. Very, very, very well. We're the best team in the league. Best offense in the league. We're going to win a Super Bowl. It was the top headline

coming out of NFL week on this show for what, six out of eight weeks or something like that? Yeah. Because that's what it looked like. Defense was flying. Danny Jones was putting him in the right position every single time. Jonathan Taylor was scoring two, three touchdowns a game. Now, was that happening last year no. Was Danny Dime's potential knowledge of what was happening pre-snap maybe setting us up

to do that? Yes. Was everybody else buying in because we had a quarterback that they knew we could potentially go win a Super Bowl with? So does that help the culture? Yes. Everything Danny did whenever he was here in Indianapolis, I and I think I speak for a majority of people, very thankful for, very, very thankful for. And we all think it sucks what happened and how it went down. The fractured fibula that just lingered and then exploded whenever it happened, happened and then the Achilles two weeks after that it's like that's a tough ending for something that was so special and we're very appreciative for Danny Dimes and I wanted to let him know that and yeah Achilles recovery is long and it's uh it sucks but I think Danny has proven he's a dog

got walked off the field and I assume he'll attack this so godspeed to him yeah I mean in the eight years in the eight football seasons that we've been here at least for myself I will say it was by far the greatest Lucas Oil has ever been. Like it wasn't even close those first seven, eight weeks when they were the best team in football. There's no question about that. For you guys, as far as the building goes itself,

how will his free agency kind of go? Is this something where the Colts will bring him back no matter what, or what do you think? Coach Bea, that's a good question, actually. What are your thoughts? Because this is, what, 10 months? But then immediately after, who knows? Because we've seen people have to, I mean, Aaron,

I don't know if he would say this, or if doctor said this, but it felt like it took another year afterwards for him to maybe be able to. He's moving now, just scored a great touchdown and everything like that, still able to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge his way through a game. But it felt like he was a little stiff maybe earlier. I think other people have said that in the past as well. What do the, because he's going to be a free agent after this year, what is the standard operating procedure here, you think, for the Colts or for Danny Dimes? Yeah, I think for some teams, I look back at the bucks, and we re-signed Chris Godwin with his injury

and because we knew what we had. I think the Colts know what they have and I would be willing now to be a bargain basement price on another one-year deal but if they're smart they'll get him signed quickly. So next year we don't know if he's going to be able to play next year, maybe the second

half of the season or whatever the recovery would be. I don't know if they've even put a projection out. He's getting surgery today. If somebody could tell us what that is, that would be cool to find out. But I don't think next year he's playing, right? Because how late in the season this happens. So then it's like, if he's a free agent after this year, does he even want to sign a deal until he's potentially back?

Because why would you lock in? Unless it was the Colts that were like, hey, you are going to be next year. So then do we have Phil Rivers run this shit back next year? For one year, like, what do we do for the one year gap that would potentially be happening? And I think any team is kind of looking at that, right? This is like, didn't Dame just sign this to go back to Portland? Bingo. Where he's going to miss like a year, but they signed them back.

And once again, just like Godwin, they knew. and they know what he is. It's like, do we know Danny Dumps? I think at this point we do, but it was such a quick relationship. Yeah, they know them obviously a lot better than we do, but it's happened with Dack. You know, they signed him after that ugly injury he had.

But yeah, it was such a quick relationship, but with the revolving door that we've had at quarterback, and they, you know, the big three, been around him, Chris Ballard, the team, just to see how it changed, how he played, how he acted as a pro weekend and week out. I would think they would try to get something done. we don't have the timeline

and we know every injury is different I'm not ruling him out you know as far as playing next year I think you know like you said second half of the season is a possibility because you just see some of these like Stefan Diggs his recovery cammakers

when he tore his Achilles how quickly he came back and some other guys so I'm not going to count it out I don't know you know what Dan Jones's recovery is going to be like but I hope he gets back out there but he was you know so good

I can't see the coach not trying to get something done this officer yeah I mean he was great but like you said if you're Dan Do you want to even, you know, do you, because pretty, I mean, when he gets back healthy and gets announced healthy, and there's organizations that are in ass situations. I mean, I think Danny Dimes stock will be up, you know, after what happened with the Colts, even though the last couple weeks not great because he hasn't been able to move.

But it's like, if you're Danny Dimes, you want to commit to a place because you're talking about the price. It's like Colts also have to sign Jonathan Taylor. So we've got a lot of money to a lot of places, also have to sign Jonathan Taylor. And then the quarterback position, we have to figure out yet again. And it's like, in the quarterback, I know Cleveland Browns have that jersey. Mm-hmm. I don't want to say it, but at Colts, this great, hey, I just want to let you know, whoever made this photo, I think it's at Colts VZN, Veezen, at Colts Veezen, I think is who made this.

I saw this yesterday. It broke my heart. Mm-hmm. It broke my heart. Because I go through all of them. I'm like, Matt Ryan, we had good times there. Sam, holy hell, Carson Wentz. Good for you, dude.

And there's Riley, there's Phil, there's Jacoby, there's Falls, there's Gardner, there's Gardner, there's Gardner, almost ahead of there. And Jacoby. Jacoby was set. Maybe Sue. Anthony Richardson. Not Danny Dimes.

Shane Bluefield? Maybe. Put him in there. Sometimes to go forward, you know, you got to go back. But Danny. Phil Rivers. Thank you. That is exactly what we're doing.

But I don't hate the move. I like that Chris Ballard and them are trying, okay? Because we have to find somebody that can run the offense. That is first and foremost. Because there's other vets around the league, okay? Are we calling the Bengals saying, hey, Joe Flacka, love to have them? This is bad. What's that?

This is bad. I might have been a little boozed up last night when I tweeted, we're back. I retweeted it. Sorry. Pat Macon had to be reposted. Yeah, yeah. Now to, you know, clear mind. It's a joke.

What? Yeah, we're right back where we were when I was sitting up here in the same mic or that Mike defending Jeff Saturday getting called in there to be a coach. Yeah, why not? He's a leader. He knows the organization. Bring it back to him? He can rally the guys.

He's getting a boy. It's a joke. Come on. Dan Jones, he broke his leg a couple weeks ago. We should have been calling everybody at that point. Should have been calling the XF, GF, UFL, whatever that is. Yep. You nailed it.

Getting those guys. Getting those guys. come try out Canadian football league. Don't play like this. We should be calling it. Philip Rivers. What's our record? Grandfather. We're 8 and 5. We're 8 and 5. Philip. 10 get you into days. I love Philip.

I play against him. That's all he needs to do. Who are we playing? What are the defense are we playing? All right. Let's get that. So on that note, on that note, let's get to a segment that we do every single week. We'll start with the third one actually, Foxy, because they get kind of

flows into this particular conversation right here. You mentioned it, Dee Butt. I'm sorry, man. He's just having it's time for BS or no BS with BA. BA is Bruce Ariens, a man who coached football for 47 years, both at the college level and the NFL level. He's considered the quarterback whispers, worked with all the goats. We kind of throw a quote into the air that has been said, and then he tells us if it's

BS or no BS. Here's one. Is this BS or no BS, BA? Grandpa, Phil Rivers, can lead the Indian. Indianapolis Colts to a Super Bowl. That's BS, brother. Oh, what? When you look at, they got the Seahawks, the Niners, the Jags, and the Texans.

What's that? The Seahawks, the Jags, the Niners, and the Texans. I don't think Philip can make it through that. They better have another guy signed today. Oh, jeez. There's a thought that may be. They do have a great offensive line, but man, that is four tremendous defenses that get after the quarterback's ad. So Seattle, that's good news.

They're not going to play. Is that in Indianapolis? No, it's in Seattle. Oh, okay. But they don't really have anything to play for, right? No. Oh, they do. They can still win the San Francisco 49ers.

Who's their defense coordinator? These guy sucks, right? Well, Bob Sala. Oh, he's like the best. Yeah, he's pretty good. Fuck. Texans, their defense is not that good, though. They don't get to the quarterback either., well, they do actually the most in the history.

And then the Jags, they don't do well against us, right? No, I don't. Although they were pretty stout Sunday. Oh, yeah, they just beat us. Yeah. And that's our last four? That's your last four, brother. Go on, Phil.

Go on, Phil. It was his birthday yesterday. Yep. Happy birthday. Here's a gift. You get a chance to play Seattle. Maybe his last one. Then nine-er.

Don't you talk like it. As a non-super Bowl champion, yeah. Seattle, Niners, Texans, Jags. What could go wrong? for any offense, one with a guy who hasn't touched the field in five years.

I don't appreciate where your head's at. I don't like what happened to you. Not me either. I hate it. You collapsed right there. I hate it. As soon as I got in here,

reality hit me. Maybe it's Moose's hoodie, Ben. I don't know. Reality just hit me. Cop, yeah, could be cops. Okay, let's go to the next one, shall we? The second one.

BS or no BSBA? Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, B.A. Justin Herbert's got a busted hand, a golden arm. a handsome-ass face, great hair, and a team that maybe can go on a run here. Is that BS or no BSBA? I think that's BS2, my brother.

What the heck? Great, great win last night. But again, you got the Chiefs, Texans, Cowboys, and Broncos. All right. Damn. Those are not very good to go up against to try to make a run. And you've got to win every damn one, probably, to get in. Isn't it crazy?

I mean, the Cowboys, obviously, NFC team here. But the AFC is tough. The AFC defense. they got a lot of them it feels like so you're going to get exposed on whether or not you are a great offense or a good offense like that is what's going to come down to crunch time here and it's good for the teams

that have great offenses if you have a great offense right now it's going to come alive because in these games against great defenses you're going to be able to score some points if you get to 20 seemingly in most of these games or 21 you're going to be good especially with the defenses that you have but having the Texans on your

remaining schedule not good that is not good for your offense Denver Broncos on the schedule remaining. That is not good. Going into the season, Broncos will win the Super Bowl. Why? Because their defense is so good.

That is why we will do that. Cowboys' defense is figuring it out. And then the Chiefs, I guess, anytime you play them, you've got to worry, especially for the Chargers. And I don't like that. I've just immediately said

that the Chiefs are dead right there. But it feels like they are. I don't like that one bit. But for Herbert, here, what do you think? Do you think it's BS, like old BA said? Tough. We just talked about it earlier. The big glaring weakness on their

team is that offensive line. And if you look at the offensive line of who they're going to have to face down the stretch, you know, three out of those four, you know Spag's going to test you, he's going to blitz your ass until you've got to stop it. Cowboys, who knows. Texans, Denver, those are two of the best past rushes in the league. So, yeah, it's going to be a tough

road. I think if they can scratch out the Chiefs and the Cowboys, their only hope is that Broncos have the division locked up and don't play anybody the last game. Stack and sneak them in. Then they'll get what, 12? That'd be a lot of wins. Yeah, that's where it is going to get interesting with the end of the season

because the Patriots and the Broncos, that one-seed race is so close that everybody might be playing all 18 weeks. Like even the Patriots finished with the Dolphins, I believe, in New England. And that might be a game where if the Patriots don't play anybody because the one-seeds locked up, the dolphins might sneak in or vice versa. All right, let's go to the last BS or no BS with B.A. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, the AFC North is going to have three new head coaches in it next year.

Every single seat in the division is as hot as ever. Is that BS or no BS, B.A? I think that's no BS, brother. Whoa. That'd be a huge move. Whoever wins it gets to stay. Now, the betting favorite would be the Steelers, but if they don't, if they don't, the way shit's been going on in Pittsburgh like that, big win last week. But my pick last week was the Bengals, and damn, they had it, too.

They had it up in Buffalo, and my main point. pulled out his cape, Josh Allen. He's the best. But, yeah, I think this division is going to go right to the last game. And, again, at least three guys could be gone. Okay, so when you talk about could be gone, that would mean that they would step away because I think Harbaugh would have to make that decision in Baltimore. I think Coach Tomlin would have to make that decision in Pittsburgh, right?

Wouldn't that kind of have to be a coach-decided thing? I don't think that's ever a coach-de-deciding thing. Really? Even in those two situations? Yep. I think it's time when it's time is time. and, you know, unless they're going to retire, okay, that's different. But you're going to get fired. If you have come to a mutual relation agreement, that's getting your ass fired.

First of all, you're coming back. Yeah, I understand that. But I think the way it's been talked about, especially with the Steelers, and I assume with Harbaugh as well with Baltimore, because it's basically similar kind of runs and trajectories, it's like they are going to be the ones who decide when it's a lot. over is how it's always been chatting about. Let's go to Hammer, Todd, Todd, AP Tone. Isn't that kind of how it's always been talked about? It's like basically those coaches will decide when they leave.

And nobody in Pittsburgh thinks the Rooney family will do it. I just want to let you know that, right? And that kind of the way they think about it. I think B.A. agrees with that as well, too, if I had to take a guess. Totally. So on that note, that would have to be Coach Tomlin kind of being the one saying that he thinks the time is up, right? And that would be a wild move by Coach Tomlin for everything that we know in how Coach Tomlin kind of operates. Yeah, I agree. But, like, at what point is he tired of hearing all the outside noise? Because I know he probably thinks that, you know, he's still one of the best coaches in all of professional football. And Shafti's reported on it that there's no chance that the Steelers fire him.

So, yes, I agree with you. I think it would have to be a Tomlin stepping away situation. How about Baltimore? Yeah, I agree because the two organizations are so similar. Obviously, I don't know their ownership or the front offices as well as the Steelers side. but like the organizations are so similar. When a coach is there that long, they're obviously not going to do it in season.

Is there a chance after season? It'd be like a mutual parting of ways is probably how it would be a phrase. But I mean, there's always the chance. I understand that, but do you think it's different with Baltimore? Because I think, you know, Debutt said it yesterday. Going into this season, people were like, hey, that's the best roster in the NFL.

Like this team should be either in the AFC championship or win a Super Bowl. And injuries are obviously a thing. but like for they like the Steelers they did a lot of stuff but I don't know if anyone after they signed Rogers were saying like hey the Steelers are going to go win the Super Bowl this year other than Steelers fans I think around the league people pointed at the Ravens and we're like hey this team you know like that that's been the discussion constantly you know and if you get on Reddit there's some stuff be saying ravens were favorites

to win the Super Bowl yeah yeah and Lamar's having by far as worst year yeah you know there's some stuff Reddit you know what's Pagano dude joining us now He's got to be thinking the same damn thing. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, senior insider at ESPN for the NFL. I may and might have a little bit more clarity on this particular conversation, and all of them, ladies gentlemen, Adam Schifter. Yeah, Shephty. How are you?

Oh, no. Driving home from the vet, we got Bailey in the front seat. She's got a little bit of affection, so we've got to get that taken care of it. We're driving home right now, so I appreciate you putting up with me like. No, I appreciate you making the time here. Please tell Bailey the dog. that means godspeed we hope the dogs are

hey rave we hope you're okay lower third uh never mind we missed it that we're gone um yeah please drive we appreciate you nothing could happen to bailey or to you while we're with you once we're off you do whatever you need to do now on that note uh b a during his bs or no BS with b a segment right there just said that he thinks there's a chance

that three out afc north coaches could be changed out going into next year winner gets to stay the other three potentially move on. Do you feel like that's a potential reality? Because the way we view the Ravens and the Steelers is almost like the coach is going to be the one that kind of decides those types of things. Do you agree or not agree with this?

You know, I think in the case of Tomlin and Harbaugh, they're almost like tenured coaches, like Supreme Court justices. And I don't know if they get to stay as long as they want, but I think they get to have a heavy voice in that. And I think whenever it comes for them, they'll sit down with ownership and the two sides together will figure out what they want to and not want to do.

Now, John Harbaugh just signed an extension last off season, not that money matters in the NFL these days with all that franchises are worth and what the owners are worth, but he just did an extension within the last year, I believe. So I know that that season might not be going the way that people had hoped and planned, but I mean, he's John Harbaugh. That's the way that I view that. And I view my time on the same way. Like, these guys have been there so long that they deserve a certain amount of respect.

I understand that questions will come up and speculation will be raised. And that's just the way the business operates and works for teams that don't win on a regular basis, particularly ones that have the great reputations and traditions that those franchises do. But, you know, I don't think both are leaving at all. I wonder if one will even leave. And then, you know, Cleveland, there's always going to be questions when they fall short. Yeah, I think so, too, yeah. I think when you say it like that, I agree.

Oh, that's a good point. That's crazy, yeah. Since then, man. Yeah, I agree, because that's a long time. Yeah. Browns, yeah. That he just doesn't. I think a lot of changes usually.

Yeah. Yeah. Can people at home hear them? Yeah, Cincinnati. Can you guys hear them? Yeah, perfectly. Can you guys hear them in the back? We can hear them.

We got them. So maybe just... Great point you made about the bank was, I agree. Yeah, and then when he was talking about way back when, it was like, yeah, I took a trip back in time to this news. It was a good time. Baltimore Colt. I don't know if he has service.

He does not. Let's go ahead and hang up on him, I guess. That sucks. I really wanted to hear about Phil Rivers. Yeah. Yeah. Bailey, it was just passenger seat, like, finally. Yeah, somebody's asking the right question.

Yeah. Bailey's been asking about that AFC North coaching situation for a long time. Weeks now. And then Shafty just is forced to answer it now while they're driving around. I do appreciate high and tight on the seatbelt.

Got to do it. I was high and tight on a seatbelt. I mean, is that really matter if you're on FaceTime? No, certainly not. I also don't know if it's high. Well, high. If you hit a telephone pole, you're not going to go flying through the windshield. I guess that would be the

true. Good point. That's pretty cool. But the issue is, I think, that in that case, the telephone pole is also coming to you. Good chance. Yeah, he should be focusing on driving. Probably. Yeah, I'm happy we're not talking to him right now.

That was, that's just like when somebody parks on the side of the road. And we're talking to them. It's uncomfortable for us. I hate it. Has to be for people at home, too, watch. Yeah. When that truck, 18-wheeler used to come around the bend on Kirk, Curb Street's car. I pulled over the side of the highway here and talked to you.

I'm good. No problem at all. I told you I'd be good. We're good. And then in the background, Jake break coming down a hill. car shaking. I think that's pretty good.

That was scary times. Very scary. Can't be doing that. Shefter right there. That was freaking me out. Because I've seen Schefter jump. Now he is older and he can run. We saw him race at the Fanatics Fest.

Exactly. Didn't pull hamstring. Wheels. Finishing a thing. Yeah. So I'm trying to wonder how much we should respect his athleticism to be able to do what he was doing at a good level. Well, he's on his phone 24 hours a day. So I would, you know, if anyone is good at doing it, he's probably halfway decent.

And to be fair, he did have good ideas. He was talking, but he, you know. Yeah, as he should. He's following rules. We're happy, all right, Shafty. And you too, Bailey. Yep. Oh, yeah.

Let's get some B.A.'s game balls, shall we, from the weekend? B.A. likes to crown a game ball winner, one from the A.C., one from the NFC. The reason why we do this is every Monday, basically, every Monday in every team meeting, there is a game ball presentation that takes place. It's a big deal. A lot of juice comes in there. Maybe even a little shit talking. Game ball gets thrown out.

It's a big deal. People take it home, put it in the office. They do that entire thing. This isn't exactly that, but it's certainly in honor of a lifetime to win one of BAs balls. Who are the winners of the B.A. game balls this year or this week. Let's start with A.F.C.

Josh Allen. Yeah, God. Congratulations, Josh Allen. Put the Superman cape on and took it home, boy, by himself. By himself. He's special guy. Don't you think Josh Allen? How tall he is, how athletic he is?

And whenever the snow's on the ground, it feels like we're in the middle of Josh Allen's season. That's how we kind of titled it yesterday. It's amazing what he does in the snow. Okay, so whenever they draft him, he's tall, he's got big hands, he can throw hard. That's on purpose because they have to deal with Buffalo, you think? And from Wyoming. So he's dealt with the elements a bunch. Hold on, ladies and gentlemen.

We have breaking news out of the Indianapolis Colts organization. Philip Rivers will be signing with the Indianapolis Colts to be leading the Colts into the playoffs and potentially to a Super Bowl. That is according to my source, SIS. All indications and all reports last night out of the building when Philip Rivers came up to Indianapolis on his birthday

after a call from Chris Ballard saying, hey, we need somebody that knows his offense. Can you still spin it? Phil Rivers was on the Dan Patrick show before this season started and talked about how back in 2021, 2021, there was a couple of teams that were calling late in the season, so he stayed in fighting shape. And then he never officially retired. And then when Antonio Gates went into the Hall of Fame, he was recording a bunch of videos, and he was like, hey, can I just do the whole retirement thing here now?

And then he was asking, can you still spin it. I go, I might be a little heavy now, but yeah, oh, yeah, I can certainly, I still put the pads on every once in a while. I still go out and feel it, how I feel it. Well, he's going to be doing that in an NFL game for the first time in five years. He's currently a semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame. that'll go away. That'll be pushed for another day because what he needs to do now is continue to build his Hall of Fame resume. Super Bowl champion, still lingering, lurking in the future with this Indianapolis Colts team. Now, is he going to be able to move? No. Was he able to move the last time he played for the Colts? No. Let us to the playoffs. It was the best we had since Andrew Luck retired. Is he 44 years old and a grandfather? Of course he is. He's got 10 kids. At some point, one of his kids is going to have kids. What do you expect out of Phil Rivers? And on that note, I think he's more humbled now. I think he feels even better now. I think his shit talking is at

a max and maybe even up to date because he's got kids through every single generation. Watch him drop a 6-7 on one of these young little blads and kind of blow their mind. Look for the Indianapolis Colts to make a run here. Okay, for Phil Rivers. Phil Rivers won't be the one running, but the Colts certainly will. Debutt,

you were in on the internet. I saw it. I reposted it last night. Don't believe what you see on the internet. You are out just a few moments go. But on that note, nosy offense. Can hopefully put us in the best position for every single play. Riley Leonard was able to run, able to throw. I assume he's still there if we need him.

Maybe they just don't think he's ready to be the guy yet. And they view this as a season they have to make the playoffs, I think. Like I think there was a lot of expectations for, I don't want to say jobs, but the future of the Indianapolis Colts going into this year. Big three, new ownership, three daughters, Erse Daughters take over the team full time because Jim Erseh passes away. Rest and peace, Jim, we all miss and love you, brother. But on that note, this is their team.

They've invested a lot of shit, gave up first-round draft picks, paid a lot of people. They think they're still in it, eight wins still. Right now they have eight wins. So they make this move. You think they made this move. Why? And what do you think ultimately this means? I mean, honestly, they made this move because they felt like this was the best option out there.

And you look at the quarterbacks available. I mean, only guy that comes in mind is like Ryan Tannenhill. So they probably, and the thing you mentioned it most important in this point on the week 15 is he knows the offense. He knows the checks. He can get in and out of protections. He knows what Shane wants to do. So that's a good thing. But five years is a long time.

44 years old. I mean, we saw Tom do it, but, you know, that was Tom Brady, who had never stopped playing. So this is huge. This would be a huge challenge, but he will be on the same page with the coach, and we'll see. Coach Bea, your thoughts, it quickly. Yeah, I think what you just said, Tom was playing.

Yeah. And never stopped. Stopping for five years in coaching high school ball, it'll keep you in a little bit of shape, but it ain't an NFL. shape so i think he's going to struggle okay okay everybody has those thoughts the colts have been struggling yeah and the colts get back on track with the rivers wagon i'm hoping so we got primetime monday night football game we haven't had that a long time two weeks in the lot house that's awesome

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Football! That's right. That cadence can only be done by somebody who's an expert at football, like Philip Rivers. That's a man who's a 47-year football coach. Bruce Ariens, Super Bowl champion. NBA, hell you, coach. He's Super Bowl champion. Rivers now has an opportunity to do that with the Indianapolis Colts as he is a 44-year-old

starter for the Indianapolis Colts going forward signed on his birthday it appears which was just yesterday first time in five years he'll be a part of NFL action and I want to let you know we're pumped up about it this guy can spin it he can talk it he can live it and we'll see if he can do it now tough defenses around the corner Seattle Seahawks their head coach is a defensive guy they're very good very good all the eye around San Francisco 49ers, they have an old head coach as their defense coordinator who became a head coach because of how good he was as a defense coordinator. And they got a good defense regardless of who's hurt. That's in primetime Monday football at home against San Francisco 49ers.

Texans defensive head coach, Domeico Rines. Really good. Best, maybe in history. Maybe the best defense in the history of the NFL. That might actually be how the season ends for the Houston Texans. So you got Seahawks, you got the Niners, you get the Texans, and you got the Jags who just beat us. That's all they do is just beat us. That's what Phil Rivers is staring down.

Phil Rivers got grandkids. You think he's scared of any of that? Absolutely not. This man knows that the first Ballot Hall of Fame conversation that he was about to be a part of wasn't probably going to go in his favor. It's probably going to be working against him a little bit. Now he says, hold on.

I can go win a daggum Super Bowl? Yes, you can. Jonathan Taylor's still in the backfield. That offensive line can still do it, and they definitely will. And they're going to have to. Very, very well. They're going to have to win the Super Bowl, actually.

We got Michael Pittman still. We got Downs still. We got dogs all over the place. Alec Pierce? Yeah, right, Phil. Just throw it. The Great White Hope will catch it if you just put it to his half of the field.

And then on defense's side, yeah. We're out the two corners that we made mass of place to go get for the foreseeable future. Word's out again. Yeah, for... Maybe. Oh, boy. in this weekend. Didn't even talk about that side of it.

I need you here, Sauce. Well, you better... Hey, Phil can do it. Sauce can do it. You better pick up. You better stand up, Sauce.

Don't want to hear about no cab. Sauce needs to get healthy. Sauce needs to get healthy. Sauce needs to get healthy. That defense is certainly going to have a tall task with Sam Darnold reincarnated as a great quarterback here as he's been for the last couple of years.

And maybe a wide receiver who's going down to be the greatest of all the time. So it's a tough road. But the Colts still got a whole. that they can make the playoffs in a Super Bowl and the Colts are trying and that's what I like. Phil Rivers announced on this show as the new quarterback for the

Indianapolis Colts talks tables here at boss Connor Nat Ty Schmidt yeah Connor life's good for you huh young quarterback new coach culture kind of setting in we had this conversation this morning I mean there's guys in this office that are already thinking like you know Gunna Rivers might be a really good quarterback for our

franchise going forward but I love that they're trying now the Colts doing it is cool I just had a scary thought of Nick Iman Wari coming off the corner and Phil Rivers maybe not seeing him or maybe maybe thinking that he's got an extra second or two but times have changed but seeing those highlights I mean shit Colts bring T.Y. Hilton back in too him and him and Phil might light it up why coaching high school by football yeah so maybe so maybe actually T. Y would like to say he could play probably for the rest of his life he could give you a game

or two if he needed to for the rest of his life. of his athleticism. So maybe we do get... I think J.J. Watt also playing for the Texans in some of these clips. So, I mean, there's stuff that's going to... He's not, actually. He's not. He's not. I look. I don't like that.

No, no, no. He's not. I look. It's been five years. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man is... Is he really? Jage was playing for the Houston Texans? He's right at the bottom of the screen. Yes, he is. I thought. Oh, my...

He had a whole different career with another team. What? Yeah, his last year was the COVID year, right? With the Texans, I mean. Did he go back to the Texas? No. No. No. No. That's before Cardinals, before retirement, before media career. Before ownership of multiple soccer teams in Europe.

Ladies and gentlemen, Joyce now, his guy might have a cooler head on this entire thing. All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a man who has an immense amount of respect for the new quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. I know that because I know that he knows ball. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do. You guys are wrong. I don't know why you guys are sitting here worried about it. Phil might be 44 years old. He was never, was he Michael Vick early in his career? Like, come on. The dude can still slang it. He still knows what defenses are trying to do. So I think it's a great pickup. I mean, who else are going to get? There's nobody else out there. Hell yes. I feel the same exact way. I want to let you know. I feel for the situation. Now, if this does not go well, okay, I was there vastly different story. Peyton Manning, training camp, I get summoned down to the training room. I've told this story before, had a great off season.

I had a great off. A lot of fun this offseason. I had a blast. Punter for the Colts, Peyton Man's quarterback. Life's pretty good. I could summon down the training room into a back room. Peyton's got wires all over his shit. It is a dark room.

And I'm basically told the information like, hey, this, I'm not for a while. We've got to get this figured out. Oh, no, I say. I am not prepared to be doing my job as much as it is as if I'm going to have to do. Now, we would be about. a game and a half away from breaking the all-time punt record that season. So my immediate response was the right one. Like, oh, no, we're about to be working a lot.

I hope you're okay. We signed Kerry Collins out of the hunting. I think he was in a blind. I think he was actually in a hunting blind whenever he was called by Bill Pullian. Bill Pollian had him in Carolina, so he still had a connection. Carrie Collins was very retired, very okay, with whatever his life was at the time, having a blast. Okay, just, who knows? Okay, out there doing it.

I like Carrie. He was really cool to me and very nice to me. And, I mean, there's some stories about Gary Collins just getting after it, whatever to, you know, do that whole thing. So, Carrie Collins also could spin it. So Bill Pollyan wanted a veteran quarterback whenever it was kind of learned and found out that Peyton wasn't going to be there anymore. So he brings in Carrie Collins. Okay, so Carrie Collins is now our quarterback. I'll tell you what that did not last long.

Carrie Collins hurt. Okay, we're right here. And I think it was JJ maybe week one. I think it was actually JJ what? Yeah, I got clear bang. boom head off ground i'll let you yeah good season carry concussion hey i don't know if it was week one or week two or his first game or second game or third game however it ended up working out but i know we called him out of very retirement forced him to play oh no i think they made him

an offer i think they made him an offer that was like very good like carry was like i'm not doing it i'm there's a day and they were like how about this all right man i guess i'll have to say tomorrow and that he gets just absolutely i think carrie has some concussion issues like earlier in his career though. I don't remember Phil, has Phil sat out ever had a situation? I'm not talking about Phil Rivers getting concussed. I'm just talking about when you bring somebody out

of retirement. What if the Yanke from the Hall of Fame nominations? Just for what? It goes so bad. Like, geez, Louise, I can't believe we've nominated this guy. Oh, you think five years from now? Or they're going to these next four weeks? What happens? Yeah, this situation happens to

no. That's a negative way to look at it. Wait until the ring. Bingo. What if he gets a ring and then he's guaranteed in? First battle, we know that. Thank you, AJ. That's Super Bowl champion. I'm thinking about maybe dusting off the old cleats to get on this Bill Rivers Super Bowl wagon that we about that. I wouldn't pass any of the test, but I would at least be maybe on the team whenever I can kind of at the end spin my way into getting a ring.

You'll be an emergency quarterback too. I'm worried. What if he goes into Seattle? Daunted Seattle Seahawks defense and fan base and everything. think team unbelievable. They're trying to win a Super Bowl. They're actually a part of the NFC part that we can see and beats them. I can see it. Phil Rivers, Phil Rivers undefeated right now as the Indianapolis Colts quarterback as a grandfather. Then all of a sudden we got the Niners in primetime on Monday night football.

What are they going to talk about all day leading up that primetime game? Hall Phil Rivers last week against the Seattle Seahawks defense. Nobody saw it coming, skipping rocks all over the place. They actually picked them up and carried them down the field. He threw a deep ball to Alec Pierce. They were worried he wasn't going to be able to get there in time for a delay a game. So Jonathan Taylor put his ass on his shoulder. Leftwich. Like Leftwood.

Carried him down, dropped him into the shotgun. He did it again. That was our two-minute offense. Boom, bum, boom. That's how we beat Seattle. Then Monday night football, prime time. Who's the coordinator? Bob Sala.

Well, Bob Sala isn't sleeping for two weeks, knowing the 44-year-old Phil Rivers got him in prime time. So all of a sudden, we beat Seattle and San Francisco. Oh. Hold the phone. And I don't know if we have the Texans first or the Jags first or the Jags first than the Texans first? Jags, I believe. Jacks first. They, Phil Rivers knows what they've done to us and everything.

And Phil Rivers coming off a two-game heater, which he's going to be on. 900 yards and nine touchdowns. Daggum and every day. So many daggums. So much gum. Oh, my God. And kneeling it out, talking snuff before the final snap. Oh, these young bucks have no idea what's coming out of this old man's about.

He's been elite trash talker for 20, 30 years, I guess, pushing 40 years now. He's been an elite trash talker pushing 40 years now. So the division games at the end, let's just go ahead and say, we beat the Texans' number one defense in the history of the NFL and the Jacksonville Jaguars gets in the playoffs. All of a sudden, next time Phil Rivers is up five years from now, I think they say, and remember, as a 44-year-old, he went into Indianapolis, took down the four toughest defenses to end the regular season.

in the playoffs, wasn't the whole fucking thing. I don't have a statue. Gotta be first ballot. That's what's possible. To tear down the patent. Next to them. Put up the film. Next to them. Next to them. Why not us? Why not? What's more possible? What's more possible? The Kerry Collins ending

or the movie ending you just laid out? I saw the Carrie Collins and that was a documentary. I was right there in the middle of it. So it's going to be hard for me to say that something else is more possible because there is a chance. You got me. Right? You're saying there is a chance, though, that Phil leads him to a ring.

Hey, hey, hey. Oh, yeah, it's definitely changed. I'm in now. That whole scenario, it just played out, as you were saying it, close my eyes, kind of saw the movie real running. I'm so in. Think about Seattle. Think about Seattle, him going in there, the loudest place.

And Phil is actually doing this number here before the first one. Man, it's great to be back in here. God. Hey, right. He's, yeah. Yeah, it's all happening. It's Darnold with a, hey, go on today, Sam. Simey.

Donald just does not recover. Seahawks. finish 10 and 7. Ghosts. Yeah, everywhere. Holy hell. He is, yeah. What are there hours

in the Super Bowl right now? I don't know. Let's go to Hammer. Time. AP tone. What are we looking at here? Daddy jump up. Need to bet him.

What was it and what is it now? That's good question, actually, D. Butt. So I actually looked at a couple of minutes ago. The odds to make the playoffs have not changed. The odds to win the Super Bowl have not changed either. The books are sleeping. Yeah, they're slow.

The books are sleeping on the. the job. We got to take advantage of these bumps. They are in the middle of their holiday season. They don't have as many people working. They're not moving the line at all. Yeah, right, dude. Yeah, B.A., I don't fucking like the way you haven't been talking about this

at all in a positive way. Can I ask a quick question? Absolutely. He's a quarterback whisperer. If Riley, if Riley's healthy, is Phil started? Or is Riley started? You think 44-year-old Phil Rivers is coming to be a backup quarterback? Somebody reported that yesterday.

I'm just asking a question. Okay, I mean, maybe Phil Rivers really loves the Colts. And he says, you know what? Or maybe Phil Rivers is looking around like, shit, high school season's over. I need to get the hell out of here. 15 kids in this damn house. Where the hell? Does anyone need me?

Does anyone need me? And then he gets a call. He says, oh, hell yeah. I'll hold a clipboard. Shit, I might play this week. I mean, I'm not ready, but I'll put the pads on. Maybe Riley does start this week, you know, to get filled back in the game. Coltar 14-point dogs at Seahawks.

What was it before the announcement? I think it's been, I don't think it's changed. I don't respect. They might have got worse, to be honest. I mean, we just can't have a Brosmer situation. We can't have whoever's going out there, throw it, just willy-nilly diving around, throwing the ball. We can't have that.

Now, Philip, it will not be a broader situation with Philip out there. The only worry is have some respect to you. The only worry is that Phil is just two beats behind. That's the only worry is that maybe he isn't up to NFL timing or rhythm, but it's like riding a bike for Phil. After the first quarter, though, after the first quarter, he's going to be right back into rhythm. Why Phil over Peyton, though?

Five years. Why was it? Why was it not Peyton? Why Phil over Peyton? I'm asking a good question. We have to ask Chris Ballard that. Yeah. They knock on Tom's door to give him a call.

Like, honestly, that's good option. He's getting paid a lot by Fox. You know? Seven could still sling it. No, I wouldn't want to see that, but... Oh, yeah. I did mention Rothersberger's name. I believe whenever this whole conversation was happening,

I would like to see Ben Rothersberger, potentially as a starting quarterback for the Colts. I know, but I don't know if he knows the offense. Sure. He knows every offense. I mean, there's a chance he certainly knows how every offense works. The words in the everything like that... Burbage.

Matter the most. B.A., what is it about knowing the offense that it's such a big deal you think for this signing? Like, why was this so important to find somebody who obviously they have a relationship with, Shane Stike and Phil Rivers? I think Shane Stike can cut his teeth in this business with Phil Rivers as the quarterback in this world. Why is that so important just because it's very difficult to teach people new words, new verbiage?

What is it? Yeah, it's extremely difficult. And, you know, he only got 15 seconds to get him out of your mouth and you've got to know what they mean. You know, it's like, I'm reading this wristband. What the fuck's it mean? Okay. Well, then how about your first reaction to when something happens on a defense? Is that something that Phil Rivers will be able to do with this offense?

Like, if this happens, then I know I'm doing this. He knows the checks. He knows where the ball is supposed to go. It's just getting it done. I mean, the mental part of it is going to be super easy for him. He's been in this system. He knows a lot of trust between the coach and him. So that part's easy.

That's just an actual physical ability. Is it still there? Adam Schaefter is reporting before the Colts can determine how soon Philip Rivers can play. They have to see how he feels in practice on Wednesday and Thursday. But there is this. Rivers has played in his offense his entire career, so he's expected to be more of a physical question than the mental one. My bad.

We know. chefee. I hope this is the delayed Ragnow situation. No, don't you say that. That Ragnall situation was sad for the Detroit Lions. Well, we messed that one up. I mean, our doctors need to just say, hey, Frank, you want

to play football after not playing for only like six months? Yeah, you're clear, do you look good? I don't care if your hamstring is hanging off the bone. We need you. Get in there, Frank. Now, that's not what we need doctors to do. That is. It's a hammy, though. It's a hammy. It's not a knee here. Yeah, let it go. That's one of the injuries. I assume they were like,

Okay, here's one of the scans that you can't do. Remember, he had this one, this one, this one. He had every part of his body broken, and he was still playing, which is why, man, respect to Ragnow. That's first ballot. Ragnall's first ballot. Needs to be football dude and also a football player. Now, the Lions just saying, hey, here's your hope.

Putting a picture of him up there. No and damn well, there's no way this guy's going to be able to pass a physical. he's back he was running out of the tunnel that's what they said boom ragnow the guy you love the guy that epitomizes everything about the line 7 7 here he comes

he's coming out and he had everybody go what's this mean what's this mean and then all of a sudden Ragnow's back the entire we all lose our mind oh yeah yes and then what 23 hours later turns out Ragnow actually can't

accomplish what that picture was right there his hamstring has been shredded multiple times and it's the same exact physical that we gave to him six months ago and we decided he couldn't play it is the same thing now like I hope that's not what happens with Phil Rivers because boy well I thought you guys put Ragnow in a bad spot up there in Detroit personally Ragnow was back and then we had the Packers the next day on Thanksgiving I thought we were going to win that one and then everything was going to be solved we were going to go to the

Super Bowl turns out none of that happened but if Phil Rivers plays this weekend it just goes to show the lions could have said Frank you're good you're playing yeah Phil's a grandpa he's 45 If he gets hit once, who knows what's going to do with the physical and failing a physical and your scans showing that your muscles. No way. That guy can play football right now. There's no way. He's 44.

He's a grandpa. One hit. Who knows what can happen with his life. So you think the Colts doctors, who I would like to say are very good at their jobs in the courts medical team are going to say, listen, Phil, Phil, probably going to die out there. Go on. You think that's what they're going to turn a blind eye to Phil Rivers?

would take it. Phil would take that bet. Phil forced him to. Old school. Ragnow wasn't? You don't think Ragnos? I think there's some sort of restrictions. I'm blaming our doctors, not Ragnon. You sign off on it. You sign off on your good. Yeah, you can't hold Ragnow. I'll sign a way, but if I'm dead. I won't hold you. My family won't sue you.

That's soft. Hamstring. Probably a broken throat. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think that was just one of this. I think that's the first one that they said we can't clear you. Now, we got all these others. But let's just start with this one. This is a fail, your hamstring, gone. Okay, not good.

Now remember, here's other body parts that we have yet to go through. This is your chest, this is your throat, this is your back, this is your hip. This is just the hamstring. This one right here, we can't clear you. These ones certainly add to the case, but this can't happen. That's what the Lions doctors did. Now, the Lions doctors didn't understand. They needed help in the middle of that offensive line.

Big time. Yeah, MCDs got wind of them failing them. You said somebody should have told him, AJ? Yeah, someone should let the doctors know what the plan was. Like, hey, guys, I don't know if you're going to watch it. We could use this, dude. Yeah, and he knows it, too. So don't be shown him this.

Just tell him, like, hey. Dick Ragnow thought he was going to pass the physical. That's what I would like to know what his thoughts going in. Blind. I wonder if he thought, like, Foxy, like, they won't fail me for this. Sure, I can't run, but, like, I've never been able to. You know, I can't move my arm, but have I ever been able to? No, just we need a little of this, a little bit of that.

Get me in the game. And all of a sudden, I'm a monster. games changed mcdc should have did the physical cough all right all right well i like what the colts did i like it i got to get through practice they're trying i like that they're trying yeah making an effort understanding that we can still go let's try to go so the big three by the way once again being like well what's the plan what are we doing well we're going to run riley out there And then Carly's like, I'm at practice here with that guy's good. I don't think that's a starting quarterback, is it?

That's potentially what Carly's saying. And they're like, you're right. Then they walk down the hallway of broken quarterbacks that we've had. That one. This guy's got no life but ball, right? Let's call his ass out. And that's Phil Rivers standing there like this on the hallway, right outside Chris Ballard's office and Carly Ersie's office.

right here and they were like he's been staring at us this whole time gets in a building on his birthday I heard giddy to see everybody I don't doubt it a lot of relationships in that building same people still some more teammates on the team that's why the tweet said all indications are he's going to be joining the team because the entire combo was like if Phil wants to is basically how this is going to go

and then the way people were talking about how he was acting last night it was like Phil loved everybody in that building Phil very much happy to be back so good luck philip and good luck to daniel jones on his recovery from the achilles surgery that is happening today in new york all right let's get to some game balls from b a from week 14 of the nflb let's start with the afc let's start with the afc b a who is your game ball winner oh josh oh yeah yeah he did it all put him on his back like he always does in the snow beautiful buffalo wind but he he was unbelievable you like the cincinnati bengals going in i think

because you like Joe Burrough said damn much. But then do you forget that Josh Allen's on the other side whenever you're making that decision or why do you think? No, I mean, I'm looking at Joe Burrow, light them up for like three and a half quarters and all of a sudden two unbelievable blooper interceptions. You know, one's a touchdown, switches the whole game around. Then, you know, without Josh, the Bengals still win the game. Josh Allen, best quarterback in the league?

One of the top three. Okay, is it hard to just say best because situations are situational? Yeah, each team's so different. but I say this, he carries his team more than anybody else. So the V and MVP is certainly something to chat about with Josh Allen. All the way. Most valuable player, Josh Allen is very valuable to the bills. I would say he is the MVP.

Again. Of the league, yes. Congratulations, Josh. Gameball and MVP designation. All right, let's go to the NFC for the game ball from BA. Wow. Pooka Nakua. Congrats, Us.

We love your man. Maybe the best hands in the business. but definitely the best run after a catch, that's for sure. Yeah, he runs angry. He's tough to tackle. He's seemingly very much in sync with Stafford all of the time, has been since his rookie year. Hey, he talked a lot of shit on Indianapolis.

I don't know that. But then he went out there and went crazy like he always does. Puka, he's top five wide receiver in the league? Oh, definitely, definitely, yeah. To me, he's the best run after the catch. But his deep ball is so sneaky. He gets behind people more than you give him credit for it. Devonte Adams does what for him?

He kills you in the red zone. because if you're going to stop the run, he's one-on-one, and he's going to beat everybody out there. But how about for Puka? What does DeVante do? He opens him up a lot. He opens, and when they put him together on the same side, you know, it's simple.

Two against three, throw it to the one-on-one. Yeah, so I was about to say, so having him opposite DeVante is always the conversation, like having them on the other side because safety has to look to the opposite side, potentially. Maybe you open up for DeVante. Maybe you open it up for him. You're saying you put them on both on the same side.

All of a sudden, now they have to figure out who they're going to cover, right? Yeah, they put four. over there. I got everybody on the other side of field one-on-one. So it's like if I can keep it two on three, we went in every time. Yeah. Matt Stafford not going to miss, except for in the first drive. He missed like three throws. It was very weird. They were running it right down the Cardinals throat and then they get down to like the eight-yard line and Stafford misses three balls. Devante was wide open on one. I think tight end missed one. Parkinson. Yeah. And then I think there was another one. And then he found it. But Stafford doesn't miss and they got two of the best

wide receivers in the league. Yes, indeed. And Sean McVeigh is a former wide receiver who is an offensive guru. And they can run the football. Karen Williams and Blake Corum. Yep. Are the Rams? Let's go to that.

We can see in the NFC from yesterday. It's like the NFC Super Bowl bond teams, AJ. I think we're all kind of seeing the same picture. Do you agree, AJ? Yeah, I would say so. I mean, is there any who was like lurking that could sneak up and possibly, you know, be a surprise team? So we had the Eagles yesterday on here if they were to win.

Oh. But what we're saying is. is who is a team in the NFC that has it all? Like, we think these teams have it all. Whenever you need to win a Super Bowl, you've got to be able to have a quarterback that can deliver, can't be able to run the rock, can, got to be able to have a defense that can get off the field, can.

That's what we think of the NFC. Is there any others, or what are your thoughts on these three teams, JJ? I mean, I'm sure, so I was in Green Bay for nine years, and I'm not being biased, but, like, who is playing their best ball right now? I feel like the Packers, we know the defense is standing up. up and playing very well. Micah is such a huge impact on that team. They have speed everywhere

you look, but also with Jordan Love and how the offense is. I mean, the Packers are looking to, like, they're starting to peak at the right time, I feel like. Jordan Love will be joining us here in about 15 minutes or so. Mr. Toyotathon, we'll be joining us. Shout out to us and a chance to talk to Jordan. Can't wait for that. Shout to Jordan for saying yes to coming on the show.

And shout to Toyotathon, because when Jordan's playing in Toyotthon, he's damn near unstoppable, which is the most important time of the year. Yeah, without a doubt. The stats are ridiculous. But I think if you look at this, I think one big thing, too, would be that I think Seattle has the best kicker by far. So I don't know how much that will take account in the playoffs, but like, he's damn near automatic. And in a couple of these cities, like, you know, maybe not the Rams, if they get the one seed, you're going to be indoors, but you're going to be kicking

in some conditions. And I think they have a massive edge there. You're worried? It's just because that's been kind of the Packers' M.O. for a long time now. Like if it hasn't been the defense, it's been whether it's like punning on special teams or now the new kickoff rule, you know, like having the game in hand and then kicking it out of bounds and giving the other team the ball at the 40-yard line or missing kind of what we would consider chip shot field goals now. So like, yeah, I think if you don't have one of those top guys in the league, like that does make you worry a little bit. Let's go to the NFC South, obviously huge upset this past weekend where the Saints beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Coach B.A is here. obviously very close with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Bucks were a team that we thought

could maybe go with the way it all goes. They've kind of come undone. And then the Carolina Panthers are having this miraculous run. What are your thoughts on the NFC South? Who's going to punch a ticket to go into the playoffs? Yeah, I think the Bucks getting healthier, but that was a bad, bad loss. I did not like the energy that they showed up with, starting

with the opening kickoff, running it back 60 yards, whatever it was. And, you know, the Bucks were just not there. But you know, they've got the Panthers twice. And I think that'll be the telltale sign. They got Thursday night football with the Falcons this week, must win, and then two showdowns with the Panthers. Who's getting healthy from the Bucks? Mike Evans, Jaila McMillan, and maybe Clyde Cansy in another week. Okay, so that feels like a big deal. Bowes' name is coming up in some heat right now.

A lot of heat. And when you lose games like that, it's going to happen. Just kind of expect it? Yes, all the way. But everything's still possible in front of you're thinking, just like the AFC North leaders, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Tomlin and everybody. Yeah, I think the Bucks, the destiny's in their hands, and they got, they just got a win all four. I'm fascinated by the coaching turnover, you know? Because if you make a good hire, Canales, magic can happen. Frable. Yep.

MCDC. William Cohen. William Cohen and Jacksonville. And then if you don't get it right, you're in a cycle of like, can we fire this guy or not? New England, Gerard Mayo, whenever he was hired. Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll in Las Vegas. It's like changing your coach is such a, I mean, it really is.

teams do it a lot and the amount of money that is invested in fired coaches every single year from the NFL is absurd and these coaches you know woe is me the amount of hours they want all their contracts are fucking guaranteed for the rest of their lives somehow so these coaches if you can get it definitely congrats to you thank you for your commitment to ball we appreciate that you guys deserve it but there is a lot of turnover at the coaches position it feels like this offseason is going to be no different yeah it seems like every year we're talking about Well, how many, what does Shepty say? Seven or eight coaches usually get fired, I believe, every year, something like that.

I just, I said that because I didn't want to do six, seven again. Honestly, I was thinking of saying six or seven coaches. But you just did it. Yeah, you're right. You just did. Oh. Yeah. That is the thing, I guess, still going on.

But I don't know. I guess, okay. Yeah, it's six, seven. Let's say Pete Carroll. Is Pete Carroll keeping his game? I don't think so. No. Really?

Yeah. I think it was only a three-year deal or something like that. Yep. I think it was a quick deal. The way this has gone, fired the special teams coordinators, fired the offense coordinator, I think as the defense coordinator got fired. It just feels like that is something that is going to run its course, you would assume. And not that that's any negative towards Pete Carroll, their team has just been asked, you know,

and reports out of the building are not the most positive, you know, about the state of the team and the future of the team. So, classic Raiders, they're in another situation where they're going to have to see turnover, and Max Crosby's still going to be there, but what else? Yeah, but very similar to Vrable with New England. It's interesting to think about that AFC North. Like all of those coaches at one point have had success. Like the Bengals have been due to a Super Bowl, the Ravens are the Ravens with Harbaugh,

Talman's Tolland. And even Stefanski has gone to the playoffs and won a playoff game on the road in Pittsburgh. So like, yeah, two-time coach of the year. One of those guys might end up in a place like the Raiders or Atlanta or one of these spots where, you know, one man's trash is another man. treasure whatever the hell it is where they actually do get a fresh start kind of completely start

over and that might be the best thing for them and some of these franchises that are getting rid of a coach after the first or second year let's pivot away from the negative potentially happening at some franchises which is inevitable uh every single offseason in the NFL with how competitive is and let's get to some positive happening around college ball yesterday the heisman finalists were announced congratulations boys jeremiah i love fernando mendoza diego pavia and julian We've had a chance to chat with two of those guys, awesome, just incredible. Fernando Mendoza the other day on our program, he was so cool. Was that yesterday, I guess?

Yeah. He was so cool. He was hilarious, self-aware, the way he talked about ball, the way he broke down a couple of plays, the way he can spin it, the way he's led this team to the only undefeated season into school's history, but also the only undefeated team in the country. The first Big Ten championship for Indiana football since World War II. I mean, you're talking, like, the amount of good things that surround this guy are certainly Heisman worthy. Don't you think, AJ, after talking to him yesterday, and I know they beat Ohio State,

but I think he showed a lot of respect to Ohio State while also talking shit, which is a tough balance. Like, that's a very tough balance for somebody who I think a lot of people think is a robot. I thought he was awesome on our show, and he's incredible to watch play football, AJ. I think he feels, like, super authentic when you hear him speak and everything about it. And you can tell, like, just by listening to him, talk, like, this. guy absolutely loves football. He loves the relationships that he has on his team. He just, I don't know. He does

all the right thing. This is the kind of dude where you know, you say, hey, if I had a daughter, I'd want to marry a dude like this. Like, he seems like he just, he's squared away. His parents did a great job, man. He has a lot of Kurt Warner in him, you know, from the leadership style where Kurt, I watched his Hallmark movie. Yeah, American Underdell. American Underdoll, which was not a

Hallmark. I think that was a theatrical release. Yeah, Netflix. Lifetime? Lifetime, maybe. It was a a hallmarked. I cried. I didn't want to cry. Wasn't a Hallmark movie? It was not. It was in theater. No, but it was emotional what you're saying. Don't Tooby. So, you son of a bitch. I'm just, it should be on Netflix with how good of a movie it is. Somebody should pick it up and stream it for the good of the world and society. I'm just saying, when I was going to be crying over Kurt Warner. I was like, I can't wait to see the greatest show on turf.

I can't wait to kind of get into this entire thing. That was not it at all. That was for all. I was, is how Kurt Warren, I sent him a text. I'm so sorry, man, for everything you've been there. God, you did an amazing job. Like, way to go. I didn't want to spend my afternoon like that. I wanted to watch the greatest show on turf do their thing. So I told Kurt that. I thought I was lied to. I thought I was lied to going in there. Great story, though. But a big thing that was evident is how present he felt obligated to be with his teammates. Like, that was something he felt very obligated to do. Feels like that is something that Mendoza is very much like. Let's talk about him as a Sunday quarterback. Accuracy insane can throw well. Like, how do you kind

view him, and how do you kind of break him down? Yeah, I would see right now he's the number one pick. I mean, he's got it all. He's got the height, the size. Obviously, he could spend it like crazy, and he's a hell of a leader, and he's athletic. You know, I'd have to go work

him out to know exactly on the board, but he's in a high octane offense. Kurt does a great job with that offense, and yeah, I would say he's the number one pick, and it's a damn shoeing for the Heisman. Accuracy. Is that the most important thing? Yes. way over arm strength.

I mean, you could have the strongest arm in the world, but then you're waiting to see a guy get open, and I'm going to fire that bitch in there where they're all coming because they're watching your eyes. And he does that. He has the courage to spin it, too. He'll spin it, let it go. My guy's coming in there, I trust him. So he's number one pick in your eyes.

At this point, you haven't done the full breakdown, or maybe you not even get a chance to do it. But we've listened to him, break down a couple plays, recall a couple plays. On the board, he's going to be... Really good. Very, very good. And for the Heisman, now, let's look at the other finalist.

Jeremiah, I love, people are saying he's the best football player in the country DeBudge. Yeah, I think I'm with BA. I do think Fernando Mendoza Minus 1,000 currently. Yeah, so basically looks like a lot, but who knows? Great season, undefeated, number one team in the country. Diego

now, you talk about valuable, like you had that Josh Allen conversation, that's kind of what he brings to Vanderbilt in the SEC, and then Jeremiah Love, he's been the best runnerback in the country outside of that start against UM where you had a slow day, but after that he's picked up and been easily the best

running back in the country. And then saying, I mean, just quietly, he's had a great season, but I think they'll kind of, hey, not your turn yet, but he's had a great season, great weapons around him, high-octane offense as well, you know, lost in a great game against the top team in the country. But yeah, I think it'll be just hop that four. I think that was probably be where the final votes end up. AJ, let's talk about Julian Sane a little bit. And obviously Diego Pavi, you talk about changing an entire institution and changing all of college football. Congrats to him. Unbelievable. For the fantastic and fun run that we got to watch him have

at Vandy with Clark Lee and everything that he has done. And congrats to his family, survive it all. Yeah. There was, you know, they were going hard into pain up. Yeah. They were enjoying their life. SEC football. As you should, do you do it? Jeremy, I love special. Julian saying, let's talk a little bit about Julian

saying, AJ, because it does feel like whenever you say, not your time yet. What I was thinking is, the Heisman voters, like, he's back next year. Like, we'll be able to get him back in here next year. It almost feels like that's how they treat it. But Will Howard never really got the credit that he deserved as a quarterback at Ohio State because how good everybody else is. Do you think that's going to be the Julian Sane story? And what do you think is different

about Julian that he could potentially win a Hizman as the Ohio State quarterback? Because Ohio State is always going to have talent everywhere. Always going to have talent everywhere. Yeah, I mean, think about it, like what Julian Sane has stepped in. They win the national championship last year. The guy steps in and plays lights out. Obviously, the tough loss to Indiana and the Big Ten championship. But he's unflappable. And like, accuracy as BA talks about, like super quick release. I just like how he commands the offense, how he is so in control. He doesn't act like he's a young kid anymore.

Seems like he's a two or three-year starter at a big-time college football program already. So I think you might get downgraded a bit because you do have great talent around you and these receivers that are up for the highsman and people are talking about all the time. That's normal. That happened at Alabama. I did it back in the day a few times I feel like when they are absolutely loaded at the receiver position.

But I don't know. I mean, I think Julian absolutely. I think next year it has to be a front runner going. for it, but this year feels like Mendoza, at least especially down the stretch, is the guy that feels like he's going to win it. Yeah, and congrats of Mendoza. Obviously, his road to this is insane and crazy,

so I love watching it happen for him. But honestly, all four dudes here and a couple others. We appreciate the hell out of the seasons that you just had for all of us for college football. Yeah, just going back to Julian saying, I think the divining trade, especially for talking about accuracy, he could set the all-time completion percentage record this year.

He's at 78.9%, which is just, I mean, that's insane. Let's go to Hammer. Don, Todd. Is that good for Julian Sainton? What are we missing in this Heisman conversation? That's very, very good. And coming into conference championship weekend, it was a kind of, at that point, it was kind of a three-horse race between Mendoza, Sane, and then Diego Pavia.

And it was like, who plays better, which team wins in the Big Ten championship is probably going to be the favorite. And after Mendoza made that throw down the side. sideline to Becker to ice the game. The odds shifted tremendously. Minus 1,000 is actually a great deal at Draft Kings because at other sports books, he's minus 2,000, minus 3,000. He is the heavy favorite right now. Pavia's got like 800 some more yards with one less game, but Mendoza's got him on the touchdowns to interceptions. So however you view that, but saying was always going to lose votes this year just because he's got number four on the outside with him. That's always

going to happen, but he'll definitely be the favorite going into next season. Just wait until Chris Henry Jr. is out there. No kid. Alongside Jeremiah Smith. Have you heard about this? Oh, yeah. Virginia Tech, you might as well just quit. Oh, did you see our recruiting class, brother? Ooh, baby. Number

22 in the country? What? From 130 to number 22. Virginia Tech? Yes indeed. Wow. 11 Penn State flips. That's the James Franklin difference. Keep you asking you guys. You see West Virginia? Really good.

Thank you. I think we're top 20 in the country. We go from not even being a team that recruits people to top 20. We got a couple of guys. We got a couple of these guys. Number one recruiting class in the Big 12. Now the Transfer Portal is going to be good to other teams in the Big 12. Texas Tech normally.

For the long haul, we need to get them out of the fucking Big 12. We need to get them in the ACC. That's what we need. You guys need it. You guys need, because you're about to lose that partnership with Notre Dame, I think. You guys keep running your mouth. You guys keep running your mouth down there and see what happens with Notre Dame, B.A. See what happens.

You guys are going to poke the bear, a little bit too much. Notre Dame should have beat Miami. That's A.C. That's right. Hey, you're right. Let's move on. That's easy. It's been a no-brainer for a month.

Jesus, ACC is what the ACC's been saying. Did you get the email? You got the email from the ACC, saying, hey, make sure you say this. Kill them. Ladies of gentlemen, is obviously meaningful. football time. There's obviously a holiday season. We're about to go in a week 15 of the NFL season.

But the most important thing that doesn't really get talked about enough is how one particular player plays at this time because it is one special car selling event. It is Toy Oathorn. And that means it's time to watch this man. The Green Bay Packers starting quarterback

Jordan Law! How are you, dude? How you doing, man? I can't hear anything. Okay. Oh, no. That's good. That's probably on us.

Yeah. That's a tough start. That's not Toyotthon. That's not Toirathon. No. Not at all. That's not Twitterthon at all. If you need a Camry, now it's time to go get it.

Because what Toyoters got going on with Toyotathon is there's 250 limited Panini cards that showcase not only Jordan Love, but also a piece of fabric from his Toyotathon sweater. There's only 250 of these made. They only go to his true fans. Could that be you, baby? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. the king of Toyotathon, Jordan. Yeah, Jordan!

What's up, fellas? Okay, okay, okay. We didn't know if we're going to have to be sorry. I want to let you know. We did a little audible. I went back into it. You'd be pretty proud, actually, about how it all went down. We didn't have communications. We'd go on, drop out, call my own play, bring you back in. We throw a deep shot like it's Christian Watson. How you doing, brother? Check, check. I'm great. How are you guys doing? I'm great. Shout out to you. That jacket's very cool.

It's very cool. Yeah. I like the fact that you said, hey, listen, if you're going to give me a jacket, that thing's going to have to be thick. I'm in Green Bay. It's cold as shit. Now, it's snowing behind me. Yeah, that's Green Bay weather. That's football weather. And for you guys, this is when you've played your best ball. I appreciate the fact that you and Toyota have come together in this time, but I also appreciate the fact that you show up in the biggest moments. Can you tell us about your Packers team this year and why you look like best team in ball? Maybe. I don't want to dive into that, but best team in ball. Why this year and why this team,

you think, Jordan? Man, we've got a squad. I think that's been something that we've been building. And, you know, the past two years, we've kind of been stacking this thing and kept getting better and better. But, you know, we've added some pieces to our squad. And, you know, it's all about, like we mentioned, just find a ways to play our best ball. You know, we've had some games where we've not, you know, played to our standard. And then I think this past couple weeks, we've been just elevating. But, you know, I think all of it is, it is part of that Toyotathon magic where, you know, you just start playing your best ball in the second half the season. Meaningful football season. Obviously, Toyotathon time. 250 Panini cards

celebrating Toyoathon with Jordan Lovin. His sweet sweater can be yours. Ty Schmidt, you're not a big enough fan, I don't think, so you're not going to get this. Sorry, buddy. Are you sure? Because I actually just bought a brand-new Toyota Sienna not too long ago. Should have been a ramp truck, but we will move forward. Okay, Jordan, relax. Everybody needs relax. Okay, I want to ask about this offense, you know, that runs like a truck, but also our rammed truck, but also looks like a Toyo Sienna, I guess, is what we're doing around here. Christian Watson, obviously, magical day. You two have had a special connection.

Can you tell me a little bit about you in the floor's offense, you still taking deep shots, still being a gun slinger, Christian Watson's development, but basically just the offense as a whole without turning it over as much? Like, can you talk about that? Because I think that is a huge step for what you guys have become, right? Yes, I mean, I think the biggest part of our offense is, finding those explosive plays. You know, we've got some big-time playmakers.

And obviously, since Chris has been back and got healthy, he's been stepping up and makes some huge plays. And, I mean, you can see on that play right there, just speed he has. His ability to, you know, create those yards after the catch is something not a lot of guys can do. But he's been great. He's been playing at a high level. But like you said, I think the key to our offense is finding those explosive plays

and putting the pressure on the defense and taking some of these shots down the field. And guys are making plays right now. Yeah. keeping your defense on the sideline watching points go up is good news. And you alluded to it earlier. We added some guys. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Jordan,

obviously your defense playing very well. Jeff Halfway, the D coordinator doing a great job, it seems like. But the big trade, you're bringing Micah Parsons over. I think your defense is stacked at all three levels. I guess what did it do when Micah,

you all of a sudden you see him in the locker room, you realize we got number one here wearing a Packers jersey? Like, what did that do for this team in the defense? And how do you think, you know, like the defense has improved? as the year has gone. Yeah, I think it was a huge boost. You know, I think going into OTAs and training camp, we knew we had a really good defense.

Obviously, you know, half being in the second season, the things they did last year, creating turnovers, and then you add, you know, one of the best edge rushers in all football with that trade. And I think everybody just got a big boost of confidence and knowing what he brings to the table. And, you know, I think it's been fun to watch Mike out there and just see the type of havoc he's able to, you know,

wreck on the offense and the O-line. And obviously I've played against him. I've game-planned against him. I know, you know, how hard it is to game plan for a player like that who can wreck the game. And now I think it's just time for him to go out there and eat right now. Yeah, and he is. Seemingly eating all over the place.

Only player in the history of the NFL to have 12 sacks in his first five seasons. Oh, yeah, he's entering his prime. Oh, that's great. What is this? He's entering his prime. Oh, that's a good. great. Every day is Toyotathon in Green Bay. You talked about game planning against Micah. Let's talk about daily. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Jordan, what's it like going up against that

Halfley defense? It feels like you guys have taken a step up ever since he's gotten there and then Micah has taken it to a whole other level. But what is it like just on the day-to-day having to try and score touchdowns against that defense? Oh, it's tough. You know, I think the worst part is training camp. You know, we're going against this defense every day, seeing all the different looks they bring, you know, a lot of exotic pressures, a lot of different coverages where, you know, I think we're all like, man, let's get out of this. We're tired of going against this defense. I want to see somebody else. But at the end of the day, those are the things that make you better, make you a better team is that good on good going against each other every day. But yeah,

a lot of credit to have, man, he does a great job, just making sure guys all know what they're doing are in the right place. And, you know, I think one thing that we haven't seen as much as we saw last year was just the turnovers. And I think we'll keep amping that up and getting those. But, I mean, they make it hard on offenses to be able to move the ball and convert on third down. Ty Schmidt, obviously, we ride with the Packers through this

man every single week. His comments about the defense, because the way he chats is, Jordan loves a guy. Our offense is going to be good. Our defense has always been asked. When the defense was good, won a Super Bowl. Ty Schmidt, with the addition of Jeff Affle, has been one of the loudest fans

in the entire NFL. And it's not just because the defense is good, it's because you have become bona fide brother we're going to put some stats up here they're maybe going to embarrass you but here's you during the four game win streak nine touchdowns 340 plus 84.8 kbr out of 100 and oh yeah we're not playing in the easiest conditions it's like jordan you're bawling the defense is balling and you're seemingly adding weapons every single week go ahead dbut yeah so this last game we know dennis allen he's always going to throw some tricky coverages at you it's kind of a i guess tricky two coverage i'm still there from mendoza we talked to him yesterday

But take me back to this bold melting touchdown. What did you see pre-snap and post-snap on this play? Yeah, it's one of those where, you know, they got everybody up on the line. So you're kind of guessing, are they bringing it? Are they bluffing? Are they getting out of there? And one of those you really won't know until post-snap. And post-snap, you see them getting out of there.

And, I mean, I love the play we had on. We've ran this a couple times throughout the season. And they're kind of getting to what looks like they're trying to get to a cover-to-n-n-tie-type coverage. And they might have busted, I'm not sure. but they just dropped Boe down the pipe and, you know, I was able to see it pulling up their form and, you know, Bo made a big time play right there.

Yeah, you made a great throw there too, brother. I mean, that thing's traveling along along the way. Yep, yep, no problem. Let's talk about your play. You just broke down, you think they made, had a blown coverage, NTT, blah, blah, bah. Patrick Mahomes, I think it was after maybe his second Super Bowl, maybe year three or four,

I forget what it was. He talked on the barbershop and he said, like, it was just middle of the season this year, where I started kind of understanding what defenses were doing, which is obviously a massive step. For you, how has that come along since becoming a starter? And I know you're bona fide already. You've been a starter for multiple years.

But how is it with the recall of defenses in your career? And at this point versus maybe a year ago or two years ago? Oh, it's something that it grows every year. And I think it's just, you know, each rep learning and growing from each concept that we have and seeing the different looks and, you know, making a couple of mistakes a couple times and then beating some coverages and understanding where you need to go with the ball on every play. And just trying to be as consistent as possible.

And, you know, focus on my fundamentals, my technique, putting the ball in the right spot. But, yeah, I think every rep you get, seeing these different looks, you just get better and better and grow from it. Go ahead, AJ. What's your relationship like with Matt Lufour? I guess, how has it grown over your time there? It's fun to watch him on the silence. He seems to be very passionate, very fiery. I don't know if he's been pumping the crowd much lately or not.

But I guess how is that, especially the communication through the helmet, and how do you guys get along day to day? No, that's awesome. Matt's one of the best. You know, I think for him just being an offense guy, being in there in the quarterback room with us, you know, since I've been here and me being able to see him and Hey Rod, how they communicated. And now me being to be the guy, Matt does a great job. You know, he communicates clearly with how we're trying to attack the defense, what kind of calls we're going to go on the field with. And everybody knows what we need to do. And if we're not getting certain things done the right way, we're able to make those adjustments. But he's a guy who, I mean, I don't know if you see, but during the game, he's always there right next to me. you know, making sure we're on the same page with how we're going to attack him. But he's a very, you know, I think he's one of the best offenses minded coaches in NFL, for sure. Those are tight. Was that last night? Twisted? You see it, man.

Yeah, those are really tight. Yeah. Got to get right. Toyanthon. Toyatthon. How long was the process? Man, it's an hour. It's an hour.

Painful or no? No, not at all. Not at all. Sitting in the Toyota, you know, you know, make it happen. Hey, that's good. That was good. Ty has a question for you, obviously. He loves you.

Yeah, Jordan, I think it just needs to be said, first and foremost. I don't know if you've seen the video back on draft night when you initially got drafted. I had quite the crash out, you know, because Rogers was playing well coming off in NFC championship. And I just want to say, I appreciate the fact that you have continued to make me look like a dipshit for that clip. Every time you take the field, you know, it's an honor to watch you play and to see your development. over the last several years. But when it comes to the offense as a whole, early on, you know, you guys kind of get crowned after those first two weeks and everyone's saying, hey, this is a Super Bowl team. And then Tucker Kraft gets hurt. Obviously, there's a bunch of, you know, mix

up and jumbling of the offensive line. Jaden Reed goes down. And things kind of got loud. You know, everyone's saying, oh, maybe, you know, this team's way too inconsistent. They're not who we thought they were. Does it feel like you guys are finally in a spot now with the offensive line kind of being in place you have your guys obviously jaden reed comes back last week and he looks great and then pat mentioned christian watson like does it feel like the offense is kind of back on track and you guys expect to have a big game every single sunday because i know fans feel that way now and maybe that wasn't the case you know four or five weeks ago definitely i mean i think you look at the players we got the playmakers uh we expect that

every week but um as you know uh you it comes down to sundays you got to go out there and beat your best or we always say it, you'll get humbled very quickly. So you've got to find ways to keep stacking it, be it your best, understand that, you know, defense are going to find ways to try and, you know, make you make mistakes and not have the same type of performances you had the week before. But it just comes down to us, you know, trust in the process, staying true to it, you know, at the same time blocking all of the noise. Like you said, there's a lot of hype around the first couple weeks and then, you know,

things didn't go as we wanted to after that. but we're just getting back to it and I think in years past we've played at a high level towards the end of the season and it just comes down to us making those plays but yeah we feel the magic right now we definitely have confidence in what we're doing

but like I said you got to go out there and be at your best every week. Okay let's talk about blocking out the noise I love you. You said we feel the magic right now because watching you guys is pretty pretty magical I think it's a good way to describe it it. It's holiday season. It's meaningful football time. Exactly. It's It's totally on there's a lot of magic to be had

obviously. Jordan, you said block out the noise whenever they're talking good about you. You saw him. You saw the crash out from him from Draft Night or no? Man, I've seen some clips. Yeah, I've seen some clips. I can't deny it. We tried our best, legitimately. I think we tried our best to be like, hey, this is not Jordan Love's fault. Like we tried our best. We want you to know that we never were anti-Jordan Love. I think you can go back and watch all four hours of every show that we've ever done for the last six years, but it is a crazy situation for you to get dropped into. I mean, he described it right there.

NFC championship, quarterback just comes off multiple MVPs, and then they trade up, never do that. Green Bay never does that. Trades up into the first round drafts you, and it's like a shock. I couldn't even imagine what it was like for you. Like, have you leaned on that situation at all through all this? Like, is that an immediate baptism, callous situation? Like, welcome to the league types?

Like, how do you handle that and how has it affected you now? Do you think it's assisted or benefited you at all through it all? Not that I'm saying Ty should take credit for yelling, being mad. But I'm saying like, has that, did that, because you, you, most abnormal situation coming into the NFL that I've seen a long time. Maybe Shador would be the next one. Yeah. But like an abnormal welcoming to the NFL.

Has that helped you, you think, in your career? How do you kind of, how do you view it at this point? Yeah, it's one of those things that, you know, I understood after I got drafted what the situation was. And, you know, I understand, you know, some of the frustrations. from fans and things like that. And then, you know, as I get there and then Arod goes out there and, you know, back-to-back MVP seasons where, you know, I'm in a tough position, but I understand, you know, what it is.

And, you know, I just try to do my best to just keep my head out of it, you know, block out all the, all the noises out there, like I said. And, yeah, definitely, you know, it's a welcome to the NFL. This is what you're dealing with. This is, you know, the media and all the different things that are now, you know, your life. But, yeah, it made me stronger, I think, because of it. and has helped me going forward. But trust me, I understood the situation.

I understood the crash house and the different things that happened after that. But, you know, it is what it is. Yeah, but you need to know that that is not what the NFL is. Most first round quarterbacks that get drafted are like celebrated. This guy's going to be crazy. Yeah, there's a parade. So you're saying like, hey, this is the NFL. This is what is like, no.

That was not what the NFL normally is for a first round quarterback. So you dealing it, dealing with it. And also never complaining or bitching about it is salute. It's a very cool. thing. AJ has the last question for you here, Jordan. Yeah, we see all these games, obviously, you guys deal with the elements. Quarterbacks that can handle the elements this time of year seem to do very, very well.

You seem to enjoy it almost. I guess have you grown to enjoy the climate you have late in the year here in Lambo? And how do you seem to, it doesn't really seem to bother you, actually? Yeah, you know, I don't enjoy it. That's definitely not to say, I mean, you know, better than anybody, you get used to it. You know, we practice outside every day, and you become accustomed to it.

it. And, you know, you kind of make that something that we lean on. And, you know, teams got to come here and face us in the cold weather. And sometimes, you know, if you're not used to it, you don't play your best ball and you're not ready for it. But that's something that we got to thrive in these conditions is, you know, we practice in this every day. So you find a way to get used to it. But no, it never makes it fun. You know, I'd definitely rather be playing in an indoor stadium where, you know, he ain't got to deal with none of these conditions. But, you know, it is what it is. You know, got to try and just take your mind to a different place. Yeah, you've done a great job. I like you're wearing short sleeves too in the cold.

You're letting people know. Got to. Yeah, you got to. Yeah, you got to. It's only right. Yeah, but we know by looking at you, especially going forward. We knew it before because we're from cold areas, but we know going forward that guy's not happy to be doing that. That is strictly for a show of strength. We appreciate that. A lot of warm skin, a lot of gasoline. Yeah, of course, of course. Uh, appreciate you, man. Good luck to rest of the way. All right. Thank you. Have a great Toyothon. Yeah, ladies a gentleman, George. Yeah, yeah, George. Yeah, George.

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Hey, Jordan Love. Kind of all looking it up. He gets it. Jordan Love. Wow. Holy fuck. Jordan Love just killed that for Toyota. Okay.

How about I'm saying he was getting twisted up while sitting in the Toyota. I went outside my house. I have furniture inside. I want outside to be more comfortable. Oh, Bluetooth connected to the TV. I was sitting, she or she was in the back seat, twisting it up.

Yeah. It was a great time. That's what Toyota could do for you. 250 of these things, Todd. Good luck. Actually, 249 now. Yeah, I know. I know. I got one. I know. You want it? Can't have it. I need to see a little bit more Jordan Love fan about it. Okay. All right. Maybe it's for buying a vehicle.

I think I see you. You have to at least test drive, it sounds like. You have to at least take a test drive. But you better have those. Guys, Jordan Love jersey. I'm saying, just walk into random Toyota dealerships. We're in a Jordan Love jersey. Don't gimmick this. We're trying to find the actual phone.

Yeah, that's a good move, AJ. Start crying. If there's only 250 of these things, they ain't fucking giving you one it unless you're signing the dotted line and buying a vehicle. A hundred times buying a car. Oh, my God. Fucking A. The worst.

Almost makes you not want to buy it. What you have to do to buy a car. I agree. The shit, what am I signing here? Well, you need to sign this one. Your life. Okay. Why the fuck is it?

this more than a house like i don't think i fully understand what's going on just the sheets of paper just what i'm not doing that yeah you still got we've got to say that you're not doing that though okay and then yeah you got to say you're not going to do that as well yeah can i just say i'm not yeah well we need you to say that you said that you know that you said that you're not going to do that now you got to go talk to the other guy yep actually we got to get you one more the other guy yeah there's always listen on always we're looking up yep You need one of these six-ounce bottles of water to hold you over while I go sit in the office for, you know, 45 minutes? Mm-hmm.

Is this going to be your car or somebody... Your wife's going to drive it as well? Okay. Okay. Yep. Tell you 10 times already. Oh, yeah. It's the worst thing.

Every time. I haven't thought about it in four. detail until right fucking now because if I want to get one of these what are you know that you're signing up for that. Yeah. You're going to have to love Jordan Love to get through all that shit just for this. Not just for

that. You know what I mean. Right. Right. I wish I knew. I just bought my daughter car. Oh, brother. Should have bought a ramp truck. If I could go back. Great throw. Thank you. That's Cornhole. Which, by the way, there was some chatter around some podcasts

about a potential decafalon and things. You saw this AJ? A little bit. Every single event that was listed, every single one of them. Unk. Ocho.

Boys, we're big fans. We love you. But your conscience was right by keeping us out of that conversation until very late into it. And as soon as we get mentioned, it's quick. We need to move away from that.

It's not looking good for anybody in any of those things. LeBron and Nash would get us in basketball. That's it. I mean, yes they would get us in basketball and maybe some other things i mean lebron and nash incredibly athletic yeah it might not be able to play your own sport professionally because that might be i might be almost yeah but steve nash i think steve nash good at everything as well

i think he's soccer and everything yeah i think there's probably a couple of those guys uh a lot of podcasts and i got respect for everybody's athleticism we have three of those guys we have three of those and then cards dice gambling all that stuff all we all know the gimmick Cornhole, all of it. Yeah, even all the bar games. Yes, we are, we are just a good three to be in those particular conversations, I think, especially with how young we, we're also younger. Yeah, I think the books will have us favor in that.

DeCathlone? Yeah, if it was the Catholone, or 20 of them, I mean, whatever they want. Just as I was listening to it, I listen to Nycap, I like Nightcap, I like Shannon, I like Ocho a lot. And Joe Johnson, that would be the third. Yes, and Joe, I love, love what they got going on. Yeah, good team. They got a good team. They got a good team.

But I think whenever they were thinking of things like that maybe other people wouldn't be good at, you know? Like, Tonk? Yeah, right. I get good cards in Tonk all the time. We're on below 13, above 49, 2, that thing will be that. Any other cards, we are all very, very, all card games, we are very in. So that would maybe take away from some of the people. Like, yeah, maybe they're not good at cards.

We just so happen to be good at cards. Dice? Just so happened. I had a dice table in my house. know when I was playing like we have a very good and then he started talking about all the other shit like athleticism shit it's like we're still young and we still do it all the time so we got a cornhole board right here we got a putting green right here we got a basketball two of them obviously right there golf sim upstairs we we don't have bowling I guess but I think we could get

there ping pong table there's going to be some of these guys in podcasting uh former athletes that get into bowling and they're going to roll like two 30 mookie bets yeah they're going to be like actually really good at bowling so we might lose yeah some there but I think out of all three of us, I think we would be able to put up a good average where we wouldn't lose enough points to drop from top spot for everything else. Not even to mention, like, if you do like a karate thing, like A.J. kicking the pads, like how many people are doing that? Obviously, yeah.

Oh, my God. We didn't even think about mixed martial arts. I didn't either. Top and boards, you know, that kind of stuff. But I did, to Ocho's point, like that would be an incredible concept. That would be an incredible concept to do, especially with. a bunch of former athletes getting back together. That would be a great fucking time, too.

Can we get a Sin City street fighting or two? What's that? Did you imagine? Just fist fighting? Just sin city fistfighted. Yeah, we're sending AJ right the fuck into the middle of it. You better hope punishment Martinez. Sticks.

He might. Cheers. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. So I think we would do very well. Tommy and this was coming. Indie, exactly.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, I was just thinking about it. As he was listing off everything, as he was listing off everything, it was like, actually, I don't like to interject myself in a lot of these stuff or us into these things, because I do think it's that.

But as he was listing things off, I'm like, I said into the group, I said, I think we would actually, like, win this thing if this was to actually happen. So maybe it'll come together. Basically, a podcaster decathlon, a podcaster games for ex-athletes that have podcasts. three people is what it sounded like was what it was going to be and I love the idea I like the concept I think there could be some incredible content

and I also love our chances I really love our chances in that thing especially now before we got to do it before like these you know the next batch of young guys retire like yes someday yeah we got a little window here yeah because we are the youngest

I think we are the young person for a little bit yeah so we should bode well in some of these things but there's going to be sneaky dominance by some of these teams some things and we're just going to have to get the aggregate you know the entirety that's the thing we got a full team like and i think about the other there's a weak link almost everywhere else and and it regardless of what the thing the activity is there will be a glaring weak link on the

other teams yeah i might get exposed actually i can move a little bit still right now especially with all the science i was going to say youtube much more athletic and faster than i so i could get exposed if we were to do a speed thing but i'm dropping in his own I'm fucking, yeah, don't worry about that. I would never be finding myself in a race with anybody. We're not doing that, brother. He just had a hip replacement a couple years ago. Yeah, but some of these other bugs.

Probably still runs a force five. Yeah, exactly. One can't run. He was lifting. He did say lifting. He said, take him on lifting. It's like, we all lift around here, but I don't think we're Shannon Sharp in it. Like, obviously, I've seen the videos of him just wrecking out, 315.

Like, he is animal. absolutely jack will be forever you know yes dapped him up I think it's Super Bowl and that shit was a fucking wall bang holy fuck how do you do that I don't know and then Ocho eats McDonald's every day

and still has an 8 back yeah he threw in boxing what because he's been training for boxing for five years yep what do I do that that's why I said Cincinnati Street fuck okay yeah we need a little advantage we don't have the sweet side no you do not have the sweet side

to a break we're back on the other side well i thought it was a great idea though i thought it was a great idea and as they were listening out i'm like this is a pretty good lineup of people because as they started listening off the shows i was like damn i forgot there and then yep yep yep it's like this would be a pretty good and if everybody did there you can make it a festival everybody obviously does their shows from this shit yeah all right good luck to whoever setting that up that is a lot of people a lot of things, but it could be fucking awesome. I think it'd be a great the ex-applicate

podcast festivals. Oh my God, imagine the amount of smoke and drink that would be happening. The stories, the times, the vibes outside of competition. We need some live swimming. We need like some kind of swimming event.

Yeah. We would like swimming. Yes, we would like swimming. We would like to go. Why are you laughing? I'll take the swimming situation. We would like swimming to be a thing. Off rhythm dancing.

That is a thing. I got that. We would like that as well. Off rhythm clapping. We would like that to be a contest. We're going to win that one as well. There's a couple that we're fucking locked in for. Yeah, I don't know.

Some of these other podcasts might have somebody with no fucking rhythm out there. There's a chance. But we got it, I think, as a monopoly. Yeah, that'd be sick. That's a lot of setup. Maybe we get the fire festival got to do it.

I saw French Montana. singing on an island. Couldn't hear him because the fireworks were going off. Did it work? Did it work? I saw him promoting it. I did see French Montana with a microphone and I did hear sound but I couldn't really understand what he was singing because all I heard was because there was fireworks. You're going to buy the paper

view for that. You know that. Okay, you're right for the captions. He sold paper views too. I watched some of him promoting the event. Billy, he's a hustler. Billy sent me about I think three DMs, four DMs talking about. You didn't. You could perform Duky. I wasn't

has to do that so okay next one fire three i cannot believe that hey good for you billy this is from billy's tweet i guess this is uh there's french montana a guy getting after it right there just absolutely fucking getting after white jacket on it's from fire festival uh two firefest a little different in fire festival one fire festival one ends in a documentary in billy in jail while billy's in jail all he thinks about the entire time is i'm actually kind of a marketing genius like fucking everybody knew about it's the execution thing though's kind of the problem. I'm going to show that. Fair.

Comes right back out. French Montana's fucking going ham down on an island. Bringing it. Where you go, Billy? That's a redemption story. I didn't know. I'm still rapping. I thought he was like married to royalty. Well, I think when Billy calls and says

hey, you want to be a part of history. You answer. You answer. I guess so. What's French Montana's a big one? Oh, he's got a call. What is his biggest one? He has a couple bang bangs. That's the one that came to my head. The big one.

Does pop that count? Yeah. Who? Pop that? With rosé. Is that that song? It's the one you were just singing. Don't stand.

Don't done, dun, dun, turn. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's Pop that. I don't know if that's Rick Ross or if that's French Montana, but. Got some bangers of Rick Ross. French got bangers. That's why Billy was like, hey, need you. Unforgettable.

Stay scheming, pop that all the way up. No stop. Yeah All right Oh, forget a bullet sway Lee Wow What is this here? These are all these songs that I know?

Just bangers Every song he's ever made Unreal What's that? These ones are? Oh, I love that one Pop that right there, yep, I see that Ain't worried about nothing?

Banger. Mm-hmm. I think. Is that much? These are at Wains? Moses? That's a banger. Moses did a lot. Oh, dude, I love all a lot.

I mean, every single one. All right, let's get out of here. Congrats, French. Still doing it, dude. About how tight Jordans. Those are clean. I mean, that was fresh. Yeah, a little along the lineup.

Yeah. He said once a week, didn't he? Is that what he said? I think he said that, yeah. Got to, you got to keep the brains fresh. Always looks good on game day. I've seen a couple of those sittings. It's a pretty.

violent thing there. There is real, I mean, with a very sharp, I mean, this thing's got a real, you know, you know, we're doing it. It's getting a good part. Oh, man. I was way too high and I walked in one time and it was happening. I'm like, what is this lady doing to your fucking, why she's so violent? I mean, there's some violent movements there. Sit down, Pat, shut up. All right. You're doing a great job, lady, I guess. I'm going to get out of here. It's a full thing, though, like a couple hours, hours and hours. They're artists. The people that can do that well, like, yeah, it is very

valuable skill to have. Hours. Yeah, I mean, he said an hour, so that's a, that's crazy if you can do one hour. One hour is crazy to me. I've seen like a two, three hour. Oh, yeah, definitely. And maybe that, now I'm looking back on it, maybe that was a little bit of a getting paid by the minute. Yeah, sure.

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He's 44 years old. Your grandpa as well, right? Yes, indeed. It's awesome. You feel good? You want to play for the Colts? Well, hold on now. He's quarterback whisperer.

I'm 73, bro. Well, it might not matter, especially with Phil Rivers. So we have seen Phil Rivers spin it five years ago most recently. He is semifinals for Hall of Fame. That will be changing to another five years from whenever he plays his last game. So he's been out of the game completely for five years. That's a pretty steadfast rule for players to get into the Hall of Fame. He has not taken a snap.

He has not done anything. But there's a chance. He knows his offense better than he's ever known it before. J.J. Watt broke some news. You know, he does these production meetings. Fun fact, learned in production meetings. says CBS broadcaster J.J. Watt. Philip Rivers ran the same offense as the Colts

for his son Gunner's high school team this season. He and Shane Steichen spoke weekly about it, discussing plays, film, audibles, options, better plays, to call it better times. Let me tell you what I did for Gunner, daggummit, maybe to Shane Steichen. So familiarity with the scheme should be no problem whatsoever. Does that change anybody's mind?

Huh? This guy fucking knows the scheme better than a coach. The coach was hired because he's an offensive guru. Now we got two offensive gurus talking to each other. That's the magic that Toyotathon was being talked about with Jordan Love. This is the magic right here, H. And I know you were positive about it from the beginning, but everything I'm learning, everything I'm seeing,

everything I'm feeling is only getting more and more to the point of, I could see it. Grandbaby in right hand, Lombardian left hand, Daggummit coming out of his mouth, thanking the Lord, thank of Jesus, thanking his family, thanking the coach. for an opportunity, and in five years from that moment, win the Super Bowl this year, February what?

9th, 8th, 9th. February 10th, yep. 2031. Phil Rivers will be a first ballot hallfarmer, okay? That's what's possible. That's what's happening. In this tweet, maybe solidifies that. Your thoughts, AJ?

Yeah, I mean, obviously, yeah, we heard the tweet, I believe, that Shepty put out, it's more going to be a physical situation than a mental, right? We're talking mental right now. I know, hey, no, no. This just goes to add to the mental part of it. Phil, not only is Phil know this offense, he's been teaching this offense to kids this whole year and offseason until he has so many, so many mental reps already involved.

I'm sure he gets out there in slangs and he's got to show the boys, especially in seven-on-seven, maybe a team period where he feels like they need some energy. I bet Phil may have, he may have strapped the pads on a few times this year with the boys and got out there. He actually said that he did. And let's just see an immediate reaction from the people around X. Steve Harrison says, saying the Colts run a high school offense. Oh, gee.

Hey, Steve, that ain't the fucking first reaction, pal, okay? That can't be that. That cannot be what you say immediately. B.A. is having a hell of a time. I mean, he's having a hell of a time over here. I mean, he's got more mobility in Philip Rivers in the last 35, 40 seconds here. He dropped his earpiece, his pack. Welcome back, baby. All right, Bruce.

I was dreaming about being Philip. As you should. It was a nightmare, brother. No, no. I don't love that at all. Steve Harrison's immediate response is that we run a high school offense. I'd like to say that Phil Rivers, who has run so many offenses, decided the best offense for his kid, and it's this offense.

But that is a very, very interesting point that I did not like that it was done. I mean, I thought, no, oh, you tell me high school teams run the pro offense, that's how I'm thinking. Not the other way. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's why Steve Harrison is part of the problem. Steve Harrison's first. Yeah, very negative. And I didn't need to see that.

I go to the bathroom. I see JJ Watts' tweet. Yes. Scroll down. First thing I see, because he sees his Pat McAfee's show, this guy going, hey. Oh, okay. This is good. You guys are running a high school offense in Indianapolis.

Like, how is that your first thought? So then I responded to him, don't do that. Okay? Fucking don't do that. Don't do it. You can't do that. So that's how I was introduced to a great piece of information for optimism for the Indianapolis Colts with Phil Rivers.

And you know what? Keep stacking those chips, Phil. Well, you should hear what they're saying about you, Phil. Phil, they're saying terrible things about it. They're saying he can't move. They're saying what BA just did to pick up his pack as he was ass hit the microphone three times. And he bent over, not his toes,

has alligator shoes. Clean ass shoes on. He was down there doing a dance. Phil, they don't think he can do it. B.A., you just learned this information now. He fucking is teaching the offense. That's what AJ said. That's a good point, AJ.

This guy knows the offense may be better than anybody on the team. Maybe better than Shane Steichen because he's a quarterback at the NFL level, so maybe he takes it a different. Is that change your opinion on how this is going to go? You think he's going to get hit? Yeah, right. He knows the offense. He's going to have that.

Check, check, check, check. Yeah, I mean, the mental part of it, he's got down pat. It's the physical part. Can you still do it? Yes, he's Phil Rivers. That's why I throws like yes, remember? He does. He does.

It's very unique throwing motion. But you still got to move around in that pocket, and you're going to get hit. And at 44, those hits do not come real nice. Yeah, well, he can't be on any of science either, I guess, because he's going to be drug tested immediately. Because they have some recovery stuff. It's actually pretty crazy what these pharmacists have been able to do. Oh, yeah.

Have we had eyes on Philadelphia? Have he seen him physically? I think he's maybe wearing a little sweatsuit right now, you know, just trying to knock some stuff. You know, former players, you know, a lot of times you go one or two ways. More about a high school football coach. Yeah, he still is probably out there like Pete Carroll and practice spending it. I mean, yeah, we'll see.

Wednesday, Thursday, we'll see, you know, how. It won't be the arm. The arm's not going to be a problem because he's throwing it every day with his kids and practice and doing all that. It's just the mobility part. Take a hit. Here's a picture from the state championship game. I do believe he was going.

He looks like Phil Rivers. He also got to keep in mind. There's a good chance the power of Christ compels him to win. Not really talking about that. You also want to talk about the. power of positivity. We know Shane Steichen is a big. Hey, we're live. We're live. Conti, we're live. I'm live. I'm live. I am live right now. Okay. You just said my name. Conti, you. When is, when are we going to see Phil? Is there a conference? A conference coming or anything like that?

When do we see him? His first availability would be tomorrow. Okay. You've seen him. We've all seen seen him. He's in the building. He said hi to him today. All right. We'll tell him. We said hello. What's he benching? We're fucking. How's he lured? All right. We'll see him tomorrow. We appreciate you. Conti said they're good. That asshole tells me nothing. That's his job, I guess. But I don't love that he doesn't tell me anything.

You know, I'll talk to him, and then something gigantic will roll out five minutes later. And I'm like, we just talked about WWE or kid wanted you stop by, you couldn't have just potentially also just giving me a little heads up. Oh, I didn't even think about it. I kind of like that. I do, too. I don't like rats in a building.

Me too, but it also keeps me in a good spot knowing that they're not going to tell me. shit. But it would be cool everyone once in a month if they send me a text saying, hey, we're signing Phil Rivers. Shout to Conti DeLay. You both? Shout out. Shout out to Conti today. This is the first time like having that relationship. He's the PR. He is the media guy. So like, this is the first time in my existence as a media person where that has really paid off.

So shout out to Conti. And also, we'll see him tomorrow. Yeah. You've also made the disclaimer like if someone does tell you something, you're in the mic three, four hours a day. So it could slip out. Right here. Everybody in my life knows it. Hey, if we have something, there's a chance yeah but you would never tie in that to

you have no idea you have no idea what's happening out there you know why because we don't have any what hell's going on what we do know is college football is changing it is evolving I believe or it's going to have to evolve into its next chapter everybody's going to have to do it

Utah has made an interesting decision that I think I've heard people talk about I've heard people chat about and I think it in theory is a good idea in a groundbreaking endeavor the University of Utah Athletics is entering into what could be a 500 million plus equity partnership with Autro Capital featuring the creation and shared ownership of a for-profit entity to operate the athletics. Sources tell Yahoo Sports. So basically you're just turning the sports department

into a business and then you just split with the university. So like you get super business people in there running a business, which is what college sports is. And then the university benefits off of it from the super smart business people. Now the AD I believe is the operating chair of the board. So the AD is certainly in charge of what's going on. But that board is created by a lot of people with a lot of money with a lot of big brains who are going to have a lot of ideas on how to operate this as its own entity. I think this is smart. I think getting business people involved in a business that is clearly a business is a smart decision. It's just obviously how much do you give up for the $500 million and what will the future look like for Utah? They're obviously

leveraging something. What would they be leveraging that is unforeseeable? None of us will know. of operating a business like a business, A.J., which is certainly a decision that was made here by Utah. For sure, and you have to get creative. If you got to bring in the type of money that it takes to try to compete in college football right now, luckily they say Utah, I believe, in the last tweet, it says what, they retain, they have majority,

and they retain decision-making powers. That's the biggest thing I thought of. I'm thinking, you can bring all this money in, but these business people want to try to tell you who you can go after, how much you can offer a certain recruit, all that stuff, like, they're going to want something. They're bringing money. They're going to want some kind of power.

I think the hope would be that they're coming with ideas on how to turn this into a profitable business so they can get their money back. Like, I think that is probably what their main role will be. Utah maintaining majority, obviously smart for any business owner that gets into any type of investment with anybody having the final say or the most say is good. But having new ideas or a lot of things being like influenced by super smart people who are your business partners with into your decision making is obviously a good thing. I hope this works because I would like to see other people do this because there's a lot of ADs that aren't necessarily. the best business people. You know, like, if you can, if you have to run, uh, hundreds and hundreds of million dollar budget, okay, and you've never done that before, or you're not good at that, why not task getting a shit ton of money, obviously giving up a little bit, but also getting

bigger brains into the conversation for you, I think it's smart. If you find the right people, if you find the right people and give up the right amount, that is a lot to decide and a lot to figure out. But I feel like this is a smart decision. And I assume that there's a lot of other schools being pitched right now. Like, hey, let us come in and help on the athletics. out of this. I couldn't even imagine like an Ohio state, not that you guys would, but think about the valuation of Ohio State Athletics and

what you could get 30%. We'll give up 30% of this so you can get a guaranteed check right now for the rest of it. It's like I'm kind of in the middle of that process with our company here thinking about it, trying to figure out like what's right, what's not right. And once you see like valuation numbers and what's possible, so

I still have full control and everything like that, yeah. And I, what is this? Well, this is what you're getting for it. this much has to be spent on the company this one gets sent to you and the boys it's like wow the fuck there has to be something that i'm missing here there has to be something that i'm in its future earnings right because obviously you're giving up a percentage so you're taking the bite now not realizing that the food might be better in the future so it's like uh it's a fascinating dilemma anytime anybody gives up shares or percentages of a business that they own 100 percent of but man

sometimes a 500 million dollar like a couple hundred million dollar check and really look enticing to make everything more comfortable and a crazy time of transition, it's just like if you get the right partner too, they'll probably make you that money back. Yeah, that's what they all hope. It's a win for everybody. That's the hope, yeah. You got to pick the right partner, though. Like, you got to pick the right people. There's a lot of dipshits

out there that have fallen into their parents' money, you know, and all of a sudden, yeah, I got a good idea. It's like, you fucking have done nothing. So, why don't you get the fuck out of my face? Yeah, but we got, I do not care. I'm not dealing with this human for the rest of my life. Yeah, right. This guy, the rest of my life?

No way, but maybe, yeah, fuck off. But if the check's big enough, there isn't people that do all that and think about that. So some people get locked into terrible situations. I've read tons of brutal stories of getting the wrong partner and the wrong investment while receiving a big payday and it ruining everything.

So there's a lot of fear in that. Hopefully Utah athletics don't have the same situation. Sounds like everybody's in on Utah that is getting into the game and now they're just gonna run it more like a business. I like what they're doing. I like what they're doing. As for Utah's partnership, in exchange for the upfront cash,

Autro will earn a large percentage of annual revenues generated from Utah brands and entertainment as it splits funds with the university. An exit strategy in five to seven years exists, and a university holds the right to purchase Autra's ownership sake. So this is just like whenever you watch Shark Tank. So even if you only own 20% of the company, the first 10 years, 80, 70% of that money can be tried. trying to fill up for that 20%.

It all depends on how much you're paying back, when you're paying it back. So this entire thing, the way it's structured, we'd have to dive into more. But it feels like they're going to be getting their money back quickly. And then once we get our money back, now we're about to be in split to the percentage that we're at. And if you would like to buy us out, then we can move. Well, and because of how college football is now and just college sports in general, you wonder if the highest level of the NFL, there's people in those front offices now that might get poached to go and kind of do this type of job just because if coaches are going to do it,

Let's say you're bringing a guy down, and then it's like, hey, also, now that we're selling our entire athletics department, is there someone you know perhaps that will then come and run the entire athletic business as a whole? Turning our athletics department into its own corporation, basically, is what you're doing there. Cody Campbell kind of did this to Texas Tech. So Cody Campbell, whenever he was talking to us, he was like, well, we did Texas Tech, we would like to do that for, like, the country. And a lot of people are saying, this guy's just looking out for Texas Tech. He's like, no, no, no, we're really okay here. We're on the largest oil field in the world. That's what he said.

We're A-O-K here. And the reason why I learned about all this shit is because I was realizing what I was allowed to do for Texas Tech. And then I realized, oh, shit, there is no, there is, this is not. We're going to dominate. Not only that, but this is not sustainable for everything. And he started seeing, he said, 183 sports or 183 programs got dropped. Something like that in college sports, women in Olympic sports, 183 of them got dropped. So Cody Campbell wanted to turn the business of Texas Tech, which is what it has, Texas Tech athletics, a big.

business into like what the NCAA can become and then he's got a bunch of politicians that are just saying what that ain't worth our time we're not supposed to do that other people are supposed to do it but it's like this is a business it needs to be treated as such and run that way and if you get enough businesses to come together maybe you can make some structure too to go forward maybe that's the answer yeah and that's what he said like there are 80 I can't remember what the exact number was but I think it was between 80 and 90% of athletic departments in division one are operating on a deficit every year like they're not making any money so it's like how long is that sustainable. It's not.

Yeah, well, Virginia Tech invested a bunch of money into athletics, right? And we're expecting, you guys are expecting in doing so. Like, hey, house needs to be filled. We need to be doing our stuff. We need to keep moving, right? That is kind of the goal. It's a full business. And it needs, I like this move by Utah.

I'm pumped they're doing it. It feels like the future. Yeah. It's in the Big Ten trying to do this. Because Michigan's fighting something. There's something going on there, right? I think that got shot down pretty quick. Okay, so the last time I heard about this, I do not know

you guys were referring to, you'd have to inform me a little bit. Tone might be able to speak or elaborate on that and maybe this one a little bit. Florida State was trying to get money so that they could buy their way out of the TV deal with the ACC so they could then move to the SEC, I believe was the thing. And it was like 750 million or something is what they were going to have to get. That different than this situation, because this is a business partnership as opposed to a loan pretty much is what they were doing, giving up a percentage of their thing so that they could pay off and get the hell out of town while trying to re-earn that. This feels a little bit different.

What's the Michigan thing, Tone? I haven't heard this. Is there a Big Ten thing going on? So the Big Ten is thinking about or exploring, selling off a portion of its media rights deal to a private equity. And some of the schools don't love that. Oh, so they're going to try to double dip on the TV deal. It tiered them, basically.

So it was like these schools will earn this much money back, and then you drop down a tier, and then these schools are in that tier, and then you drop down another tier, and I think they couldn't come to an agreement. And certain schools were like, fuck this. We're not in this tier. This is bullshit.

So you're telling us we should be getting the same kickback as like a Rutgers. No, that's not how this is going to work. So ultimately, like the last I read is that it kind of fell apart pretty quick. It's crazy how business-businessy this is all going to get. Like this is just the start of it. If you have good information on how business is done and good experience in it, I think there's a lot of jobs opening up in sports, college sports. I think there's about to be a lot of jobs opening up.

Boy, there's going to be some terrible hires. No doubt. Oh, my God. There's going to be some duffices put in charge of some of these college athletics, and it's going to go into the shitter. That's kind of the... But the good ones will absolutely rise to the top very quickly. Definitely.

It'll be obvious, too. It'll be quite a bonus. And it's not just like, obviously, the football team will reap the benefits. All of the sports will reap the benefits if it's run, like, a good business. And there's obviously just different levels to business running. And with how many there's going to... Oh, my God. there's going to be shite.

Oh, yeah. But those people are put in positions of power because they're super smart. So will they ever admit that it was shite? And if they never admit that it's shite, is there ever a chance to save it? They'll put a great PowerPoint deck together to show you, though, how good it is, how good they made it.

Yeah, but we're watching. All your teams suck. They'll also be paid handsomely, so will they even give a fuck? Nope. You know, it's like if you're making a shitload of money and it doesn't work, it's like, okay, well, thanks for paying me.

And that's coming from the state then? that would be coming from the state employee because University of Utah is the main owner like LSU whenever the governor got involved. Public schools, how's it work? I don't know. I don't know how that works. All right, good luck.

Go get them. Good luck. A lot of money coming into college ball. $500 million. That's for Utah. Yeah, it's awesome. Shout out Utah. Love Utah.

Beautiful school, beautiful state, beautiful people, beautiful everything. Okay, I love Utah. $500 million for them. Couldn't even fathom what the fuck Ohio State would be. No. Bam. Oh, my God.

Bama? I mean, I guess even Georgia, you go, all the champs. All the, yeah, all those college football play off to you. LSU. Oh. Multiple sports. Texas. LSU has all, like, all the sports stuff.

Yeah, Texas. Fucking Notre Dame. Why isn't the governor, Jeff Land, you're currently visiting with VCs right now? Hey, you want something about sport? You might be. Want something of our sport? We can fucking make up this Brian Pelot.

everybody called me a fucking idiot we paid that guy i just got fucking a three billion dollar valuation i said what did you see our fucking gymnastics we've won fucking every national championship boom not a billion now go to our fucking baseball team look we sell this play boom not a billion lane kiff and our coach boom not a billion we got a fucking gator hunt team undefeated boom not a couple million i mean he's he could potentially wheel and deal right now Oh, yeah. And get a lot of money for the state. Does that money go to the state then?

Oh, man, there's so many questions. I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting a big chunk. You got to get a big chunk, right? You know what we should need to start focusing on? Us, more? Sports that are happening around the world. Because, you know, what was that guy's name who did that show

where he traveled to a bunch of places and played all their sports? Mike Rowe. No, that's dirty jobs, but I do appreciate Mike Rowe. I like Mike Rowe. I think he had a great voice. He's great. He's great. He's great.

He's great writer. The whole thing. I'm a big fan of Mike Rowe. I don't think he was playing any sports. I think he was doing jobs, actually, dirty ones. There was a guy, uh, car, uh, I forget his name. Oh, you're right. Oh, do you play for the giant?

Bengals, maybe, too? Bangles, he was the Bengals linebacker. Oh, he's awesome. Great personality. Oh, I don't want to say the wrong name. I watch the show. I feel bad. I forget.

Love the show. What's that? Bontas. No, not Bontos. Now, he played football. He was a really hard hitter from what I've been told. Bonnie Jones. Who?

Dehoney Jones. Dehoney Jones. Oh, yeah. Dahony Jones. traveled the world and, like, tried their sports out, and I watched, I'm like, yes, this is the job that I would like, this is, I think I'd be able to be good at all these sports, because it was like a lot of different forms of athletics and weird sports, tiny town sports. And, you know, I got interested in all these, yeah, there it is. Tahani tackles the globe. Hey, great show, Dahani. I don't know how many times anybody's told you that in a long time. He did good, too. They put him in some very awkward sports, and I think he performed well and represented well. But we here at the program have tried to spotlight sports. and leagues happening around the world since the beginning of time. Oh, yeah.

We rode with the Korean baseball in Japanese baseball through COVID. I mean, we got after Ozzie Rules football during COVID. We'll talk about anything if it's great. Let's go to Japan. Ladies and gentlemen, they have a volleyball rally here that needs to be seen. That man right there serving.

Hey! From Cuba, named. Miguel Lopez. He's an absolute beast. And volleyball, you think to yourself, well, how exciting could it be? Well, how about let's just sit here and watch us for the next 20 minutes

as these dudes keep the ball off the court? we're talking insane defense great setting powerful spikes and movement around the court that I don't think the Osaka Bluton formerly known as the Panasonic something

Panthers they have never seen effort like this this is a back row attack from the guy from Cuba he jumped from 10 feet behind the net to do that absolutely slaughtered the ball it really got grimy out here the ball is still in the air still in the air still up they're battling

winded gas Who's going to win? Blue team says how about us? Eat some red team. The Osaka Blue Team Remade Supreme. They took a time out. Everybody relaxed for the next 20th 30 minutes.

But I just want to let you know, men's volleyball in Japan is going absolutely ham. So if you happen upon it, maybe watch a little bit. That's incredible. Look at a crowd. I know. B.A., what do you think about the rally

you just saw there? At least 25,000. Unbelievable. I mean, I'm a huge volleyball fan, too. Really? Oh, yeah. Love Olympic volleyball. Men's and women.

I mean, I've gotten into women. Women's sports are so good now. I watch the World Series. The Softball World Series more than I do the men's World Series. Okay, so let's talk about that a little bit. Softball, great sport. Soccer, great sport. Basketball, we dominate women's side of it.

And volleyball is incredibly explosive. In America, it's blown up, right? What happens in Nebraska? They sell out how many? Oh, yeah. They sold at the football stadium. It was like 80,000 or something. And we have a women's professional volleyball team.

I think here in Indianapolis, I believe it's up there in Fishers. They kind of have a whole league. They sell out and fill up. I think women's volleyball and volleyball of sport as a whole on the rise. And it's for a good reason. Sport is electric. It really is. It's so exciting.

And the athletes that are playing are just amazing. Yeah, that dude from Cuba right there, he has a back row hit. So he's served. So obviously he's in the back row. There's three in the front row. He's in the back row. He's actually in the one position, which is where he's supposed to serve, but it's floating, obviously zones.

He's not allowed to go up to the net and spike it. You know, like you're not allowed to do that. How lacrosse has rules where the forwards are allowed to do something. The defense is not allowed to do something. In volleyball, front row is allowed to be up with the net. Back row, not allowed to spike or jump or put the ball over the net from in front of the 10 foot line. So him going from the back row is what it would be called. I don't think it's this one.

It'll be the next one. He flies and sores. I couldn't imagine this guy playing football or any of these other sports. It's about to happen right. Now it's about to happen. I mean, watch him. It takes off. That's it.

He's flying. I think he's at eight and a half feet, I think. 10 feet from back and he's just jumping all the way. It's an insane sport. It's so fun to play. It really is. That's another sport.

We'd be pretty. Oh, yeah. We'd play beach volleyball. Oh, yeah. That's a workout, too. Yeah, and we're youngest, yeah. So for beach volleyball, we'd win strictly because we're the youngest.

Oh, yeah. But speaking of sports around the world, I don't know if you guys watch or not. Out of Dobby. Landon Norris is crowned as the F-1 champion. What's sports? Of the, what sport? F1, Formula One, the pinnacle.

He was crowned, first champion. Congratulations, Lando Norris, McLaren. He was crowned, driver's championship, and Abu Dhabi for F1. Speaking of sports around the world. When that happened? Sunday. That was also ESPN's sign-off from F-1 coverage. Now it moves to Apple TV.

Well, congrats to Lando. The last real champion. I thought Brad Pitt won. I thought the same. Sonny. Yeah, Sonny. That was a story. That was like a story time

It was the first ever chance Oh shit Okay That was maybe Is he on? Is that what? Is that going to Apple's too? I think it's coming to Apple TV very soon

Maybe this week I made a shit to the movie It did Oh it's been on Apple TV No you can buy it But I think it's free I remember thinking how cool That movie was going to be

And I was like It's F1 though People said it's good Great movie Well Tom Cruise's people did it right Yeah the guy who directed Top Gun did it Is that Michael Bay?

No. Joseph Kaczynski. Show him a little respect. And then what? Brock Palmer was the... Michael Bay Help. F1, the movie begins at streaming video on demand run on Apple TV on Friday, December 12th. Man, nailed it.

So if you want to know what's going to happen with Phillip Rivers here, just watch that movie. See, you're living in a fairy tale land. Same story. He won, I thought. I'm living in reality right now. You're in a fairy tale land. Yeah, I'm trying to get to a positive place. That's the only way I get to a positive place.

Oh, so it's a good outcome? yeah okay I thought it was bad outcome it's good outcomes I don't want to ruin the movie please don't I'm not gonna watch it but it's an old guy who comes back he was a long in a tooth he kissing the car young man's game and he did his thing okay but that doesn't ruin the movie I mean I do guess I don't have to watch it now it was gonna win I didn't no no no no you got to watch the movie oh now we know what I'm going to I wasn't going into expecting Brad Pitt to not fucking so what's he doing he's doing he's doing any 500 it's like one last he was a guy he did all type of race and all around the world different

type of shit and then obviously f1 the pinnacle he gets a call from one his old buddies obviar bar down yeah he was in a tight spot with the team they basically had to win and get points to get money and keep the team and all this shit uh damson was his co-star he's the other young hot shot and then uh this guy's this guy's talked about the cross right geez um but yeah you got watch him. Great movie. Okay. Regardless of you like 30 minutes. First 30 minutes was good. See? As good as Ford and Ferrari.

Oh. To be honest, no. Four versus Ferrari is very good movies. Ford versus Ferrari was a good fucking. It was. Yeah, that was a good movie. What's another one? Cars two. Cars two. Cars two. Cars three. I don't know if fucking G1 Brad Pitt can hold a fucking torch towards cars.

Pinnacle. Larry the cable guy? I was going to, Larry the cable. Yeah. They actually warned him for Brad Pitt's roll. Sonny. He said, I'm not doing it. It's G.

Sir Louis Hamilton. Made a world. In cars. Is he the youngest, sir? Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah. Celebrity, sir. Probably.

Who's the youngest celebrity, sir? And can you even get surred anymore because the queen passed away? Yes. You can be united by the king now. Yes. Yeah, sausage Finkies. King Andrew or whatever the fuck. The weirdo. He's also Broncos.

The youngest person of United in modern times for celebrity public services often cited is Dame Ellen MacArthur. 28 Damehood. While the youngest male knight is Sir Andy Murray at 20. I was sure he's doing this all the time. However, right, this is seemingly every year, 28, 29. Is it like giving him a key to the city?

Is that similar? To a country, maybe. I don't know. I don't fully understand. Like Sir Nick Falto, we know him. And Montana doesn't, which was part of the problem. That was part of the problem whenever we were up there. You know Sir Nick Falto? Yes. Great golfer.

Yes. Montana was not happy. He was their picker. Not at all. I would imagine. Yeah. How's the golf game? Are we playing still or no?

Oh, yeah. Really good. Really good. Not too much this week. A lot of rain, a lot of cold weather. Back in the 60s this week, so we'll get back out there. How's football season going from your perspective? You think you've enjoyed.

watching this year as much? I've loved it, yeah. I mean, probably watching more than I've ever watched for this reason, you know, being here. And it's been a blast. What are you more impressed with or less impressed with whenever it comes to maybe other coaches or other shit going on around the league?

I'm very, very impressed with college football and how good it's getting. You know, I was definitely against the portal to begin with all for NIL. But the portals made it pretty exciting. So you think college football better than it's ever been whenever it comes quality-wise because the NFL used to be so it was hard for me like I went back to a high school football game once I got to the Colts and I'm like

god damn this is terrible football like you're watching it it's like this is not good football like it's fun it's Friday night lights I like what's happening here but like just the amount of shit that's happening in the NFL first the amount of shit that's happening in high school is just vast you got different people playing obviously different maybe even species playing whenever you watch some of those games. And then college, I talked to some NFL guys, it's like college is pretty basic too. College is pretty basic stuff because you've got to get everybody on the same page. Then the NFL, that's why it's such a difference. It feels like what you're saying is like, hey, college is actually becoming better sport, better game, everything like that, you think?

Yeah, the excitement on campuses all over the country and the amount of money being spent. I mean, you've got college coaches making more than the NFL coaches now. Yeah. And coordinators making $3 million in college. That was unheard of. I mean, $3 million head coach 10 years ago was huge. Now they're making 12-15. College ball up into the right. Big time. That's why if you can get an investment in one of these sports,

I think you go ahead and do that. How about college hoops? That's happening right now, right? Oh, yeah. Who's good? The usual suspects right now. Conference play has like kind of just started. So like I'd say after the new year is when we really kind of get into the teeth of the,

but, you know, Duke, Michigan State, Arizona. Michigan. one today. Who's playing tonight? Yukon in Florida. Who do we like college-wise? Yukon's very good. I do like the Big Ten this year.

Michigan State's good. Iowa's good. Illinois's very good. Florida's also very good. What about West Virginia? You know, he's got wax. West Virginia's doing well. Arizona.

Arizona's ranked number one in the nation right now, and they have Coa Pete who committed on this show. Oh, yeah. I think he went crazy right in his debut. Yeah, I think he's very good. Shout to Cowa, dude. Appreciate you, Cora, for letting us be a part of that. Yeah, the number one team in the country.

I just say 8-0 right now. Geez, Louise. Michigan. Boozer's kid's doing it at Duke, right? Yeah. Very good as well. And then Mello's kid is up in Syracuse. He's awesome to watch. His highlights are sick. And the way he operates, I like that those types of humans still exist. I like that that's

happening out there. Arizona, Michigan, Duke, Iowa State. Wow. Iowa State just came to Purdue, who was number one and beat the fucking shit out of him, beat by like 20. Is this women's or this is men's? I assume once. Or is this two different polls? Yeah.

Okay, but is this men's or? Men's. Okay, because women's, we know Adi Crooks got in Iowa State at one, right? I don't think they're not one, but they're certainly up there. So Iowa State kind of runs Iowa when it comes to sports. Well, I don't know because Iowa's women's team is also undefeated, but, you know, we just, we don't want to talk. They don't have. They play pretty soon.

They do. You guys are fucked. She's unstoppable. Adi Crooks is unsubed. She averaged in 40 a game now? Honestly, what does she average? Damn new. The points per minute thing is going to be historic.

Absolutely record-breaking. She's my favorite player. She's my favorite player. We also got a bad Mamma Jama on our team as well. She's not Audi Crooks. Definitely not, but she's going to make it tough for her. Tomorrow, 6 p.m. Iowa Hawkeyes at Iowa State.

It's almost like we knew this stuff whenever we're talking about the Apple movie this Friday, talk about this game, it's right now. It's almost like we prepared and knew this stuff was all about to have. This is sports, baby. Speaking of sports, baseball is happening. Did you hear, AJ, I don't know if you heard this, the Pittsburgh Pirates, we're going to offer

$120 million to Swarbo? I believe they did. So what does that mean? They said, hey, we have this in our bank account. We will prove it to you. Yes. They opened their app, say, hey, here's the amount of money that we have. We are going to offer you that, Mr. Kyle Schwarber,

because we need a good bat to go along with these pitchers that we have here in Pittsburgh. If we were to spend $120 million on a player, that would be more than our entire fucking payroll for the rest of the team. This would be a big move. They actually were going to do that to Schwabot, or did they know they were going to get outbid and it was never going to happen? They just wanted to do it to make a move. No, they definitely offered that.

But my whole thing was kind of like the pirates, you can't offer the same. is what like the Phillies were going to offer or like the Red Sox or like one of these teams who like that is part of being in Pittsburgh as you they would have had to offer four years 160 million you got to bump up that you know average annual value exactly to go play in Pittsburgh but they actually did

they did offer sure so Schwabo got an offer from the Pittsburgh Pirates he got an offer from the Red Sox it sounds like and he stays with the Phillies he resigned with the Phillies yeah five years 150 million good for Schwabo friend of the program five years 150 that's good living continue to bomb those balls Phillies had a hot run into the playoffs and then quick fizzle out in the playoffs

yeah and it's kind of the same deal you know it's tough because they have the Mets in their division who are you know we'll spend whatever it takes and then obviously the Dodgers in the NL as well okay so speaking of both those teams edwin Diaz uh trumpets man yeah legend from a couple years back for the New York Mets. He's heading to the Dodgers. Yep. He's gone.

What's this all about? Why didn't he come to the Pittsburgh Pirates? Because he wants to win. Come on. It's pretty straightforward. He wants to win, yeah. And that's what happens when somebody signs with the Dodgers at this point. It's like almost whenever you get an offer from the Dodgers, it's a congratulations.

Especially when you don't have to, like, if the offers are kind of anywhere similar, It's kind of like a why wouldn't you, you know? Is Scoobel going to the Dodgers? That hasn't been, so there's a lot of rumors that he is going to be traded at the winter meetings, and it's kind of the same, you know, like the Yankees are interested, the Dodgers are interested, the Red Sox are interested, like all these big teams, who will be able, because he's going to get a massive, massive contract. So one of these, you know, teams with a big payroll, the Mets, like they're probably,

if he does get traded, it's going to be to someone like that. People aren't going to be happy. If he goes to the Dodgers, yeah, people are going to be really nice. I like that the Pirates are getting active. Congrats to your Red Sox. Have they signed anybody? No, but remember, we potentially almost tried to attempt to offer $80 million before. Yep.

They traded for the password, Josie Nixon. Password from the Red Sox good young ball player. He is. He can mash the ball, actually. His name's password? Yeah, it's just his nickname because no one knows how to pronounce his name. Yeah, his first looks like a Yosty Nixon. I don't know what his last.

last name is. So password just that's just a cool nickname. It's kind of like I think there was some guy in the NHL, same deal, like some Russian guy who's like no one, it's like how the fuck dude, this guy's name's password now. No one knows how to fucking pronounce his name. All I have a couple of things in my life, we just kind of looked at the guy and said this your name

no. That's a crazy thing to happen. Passwords is pretty good nickname though. Big news for America, Schwarbe's got $150 million for the next five years. He's also playing for the United States. Yep. In a Facebook lesson. Hey, I think we're actually trying to stack team.

We definitely are. I think USA is trying to stack team. I think United States of America baseball players saw what happened last time when Japan beat the United States of America in a massive moment. Shoah was pitching against Mike Trott in the 9th for

the World Baseball Classic. Kind of everything you would want. Hell yeah. But United States baseball players, I think they didn't appreciate that they lost that. I think they're trying to put a very good team up front. And I think people are even changing their training for the offseason. Guys are changing. Oh, yeah. We got a

real shot to win this. Are we juicing again? Are we juicing again or no? I don't know if we're juicing. I don't, I think they have pretty good testing in that whole thing at this stage of stuff. But I do know that like the messaging from my source is like, hey, people got hurt. That's because they didn't change their training. And they were earlier than what it was supposed to be. So guys were going out there. They weren't ready. So everybody has kind of bumped up their training, I guess, that is committed to the world baseball classic. So they're going to be ready. So it's just a longer season that they're

going to have next year. So look for maybe tail end to season to potentially have some stuff, maybe a part of it. But I think the mindset for baseball, for MLB and for the United States guys is like a lot of people watch this, a lot of people care. Let's go win this thing. So they're changing their training. It's not just like small names here. Here's the confirmed team USA World Baseball Classic player. Judge Skeens, Raleigh, Schwabo, okay? We don't really need to say anything else. Everybody else that is great is playing. So they're treating this like an Olympics. Yeah. They're trying to win this thing. Yeah, it's really like ever since the Olympics got rid of baseball, or I can't remember what they got rid of baseball and then maybe it came back and it was like only professional guys weren't playing from the U.S.

Like this is the only opportunity you have to represent your country. It is basically like, you know, going to win an Olympic gold medal. So I think guys now are getting to the point where it's like, hey, if there is an injury risk, that is part of it. Hey, just move up your training a little bit because they report so early anyway. So you're kind of just replacing going to spring training with, you know, getting ready for the world baseball classic. From my understanding, we're trying to win that fucking, like it is a very, very, very real thing we are trying to win that thing.

Yeah, I think a lot of the kind of conjecture around like, hey, Japan is the best baseball country in the world now because of Shohay, I think like some of those guys, it's like, no, they're fucking not. Okay, they might have the best player in the world, but like America is still where the best baseball players are. Shoah played in this and is going to play in it again. Correct. For Japan.

Yeah. So that also puts a lot of... Or the other, I would assume, Dominican Republic. But who are the other? Yeah, yeah, DR will be good. Venezuela is usually pretty solid. But it's the U.S. and it's Japan. I was two topped up.

Russia? Yeah. I don't know if Russia has a baseball yet. Has Russia picked up a baseball bat yet? Yeah, they got a good team, man. You do not want to see the curveballs they got, right? Really? Yeah, he's right.

Splitters. Splitters. Sinkers. The knuckle. balls. Oh, the knuckle balls. They're in Wakefield, all of them. See how much gum they're chewing.

Best in peace. Odds on favorites to win the world baseball classic? Us. Enough. We got it. USA, Japan, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Mexico, South Korea, Netherlands, Italy. What?

It's going to hammer. Die, done. Guys playing baseball over in Italy? I didn't know that. Swinging spigets. Yeah. And it's kind of like one of those situations as well, where you can kind of have dual nationality and if you don't make the USA team

you just play for team Miller. Okay, I love that. Do that in soccer, it seems like a lot the other way around. He used to. Cuba, Canada, Columbia. Columbia's got a team. You don't have to worry about any of these fucking teams.

No, Colombia's got a guy. Czech Republic. He does this one. Here he sits on it. Yep. You never know when it's coming. He's actually submarine as well. Okay.

So it comes from here and then right back. See ya. What's that? What, that's us, hitting a fucking 900-foot home run on this guy. I don't know. Did you see what he was doing? I did.

He was sitting on it. I did. And then he comes right from the fucking next door to, right down the cock. Yeah, Judgey, boom. Cowellie, boom. Bobby Whitt, Jr., boom. Any other fucking guy in our lineup, boom.

Swarbo. Shorbo, thank you. Metal bats. Just use metal bats. For the World Baseball Classic? WBC, I mean, people will tune in all over the globe. Are you kidding me? Oh, hey, Swarville hit 1,200 feet today, guys.

You might want to tune in tomorrow. Like, yeah, I think they'll get eyeballs. You're right. Hey, this is not a bad idea. I would like this to be presented to somebody who makes the decision. Who is Mr. and Mrs. World Base? Let the pitcher wear a football home, I guess. We just don't know what the pitchers getting killed, right?

I don't know if teams are going to sign off on that. You know, if whoever's playing first base for us gets hit ahead by a Shoah liner. is in a culmer for eight months and misses the season for the love of the game fans are in danger too obviously grow the game yeah you want to help baseball or not grow the game you're right

bigger nets imagine the Bing how the like hearing that show hey against Columbia yeah that guy's submarine and he's just waiting right here and his head might get knocked off we're going to see a fucking fatality on the field

and they're off to cancel the tournament oh to see that exactly we want a good tournament roll them off the field They'll figure it out. Yeah. Where is it? Riverside.

The World Baseball Classic. I think a couple of the games are in Japan. A couple of the games are here. Yeah. And then the final is in Miami at that beautiful ballpark. Lone Depot Stadium or whatever the fuck it's called. You don't know the name of the place? It's a shit hole.

I think people in Miami absolutely hate it. It's the biggest waste of money. And we had a good team. Lone Depot Park, Miami, Florida, full D, quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals. We're going to see a lot of that place. Gorgeous. But the weather's going to be awesome, I guess.

Bring the efficient thing back. When the first build a finish. tank, like in the behind it. Yeah, they got rid of that because people thought it fucking sucked, big time. This big ass marlin. Behind the plate, wasn't, or where was it? No, I was in the outfield. That wasn't cool? No, it was just a big

fucking eyesore. People were like, oh, great, you know, you're, adding all these fucking tax dollars, so all of us got to pay an extra, you know, two grand a month, so you put a fucking big Marlin in the outfield. And guess what? The thing never pops up because the team fucking sucks every

year. And the Marlin died. rest in peace that midgame what him and talking to you Jeter came over and killed this what

the barlet maybe this will help it left us yeah it's awesome inside job that didn't happen it feels like that didn't happen

John Carlo he wouldn't yeah he didn't come in though who else with the Yankees fuck

Jazz Chiz yeah yeah wasn't around for that one yeah that was David Samson

I'm like just kidding he wasn't around for that one but he did He did say, you know. He's talking about, you know, we'd have a great player and our fans would not like that we were going to trade him. So we'd leak to the media that he was a piece of shit and then train him and everyone would hate him.

And if you think that's the first time that happened, I got a bridge at Brooklyn to sell you. Yeah, but why does that continue to happen? Don't you think everybody should just get along? Remember? Oh, yeah. He said that immediately afterwards. Why can't we all just get along? Well, you just out of yourself as a massive scumbags.

You just said you said terrible things about your people just to get yourself out of having to do deals. I mean, you think I'm the only one that does it? Yeah, that's business, baby. That was crazy. He was very transparent. Oh, yeah. He was good on our show up. This stuff pops up.

I see his stuff pop up. He was good on a show. He said some shit that. I was just like, what are you doing? What's his title? I can hear you. What's that? No, what's his title?

I don't think he's still. He was a super president of the Marlins. He's a media guy now. Yeah. But he knows. I mean, he's been in there. He watched it all happen. B.A., you a baseball guy?

Oh, yeah. You think USA beats Japan? Yeah, I do. Okay, I like that. Yeah. You think Phil Rivers? You think Phil Rivers wins the Super Bowl? No.

He'll win a game or two. Oh, we will? Oh, we won a game or two? Which ones? I don't know, but he'll win a game or two. Okay, who's representing the, who's representing the AFC and the Super Bowl? Hmm.

We can put the, we'll put the, We'll put the odds up. We can put the top seven up. I have to say Denver right now with that defense. Okay, the Denver Broncos are representing the AFC in the Super Bowl. They're currently number one. Obviously, the Patriots are tied with them for record. Patriots have great defense, have Vrable, have Drake May balling, have everything going. Denver Broncos, Bo Nick, Sean Payton, doing their thing, defense, outrageous, and getting

healthier at the right time. You like the Denver Broncos because of the defense? Yes, and watch out for the Texans if they get in. because of defense okay now let's go to the nfc who do you think we'll be representing the nfc in the super bowl oh i hate to say it but i think it's going to be seattle that's what phil rivers starts his second colts career with this weekend in seattle that's heckler in the world that sign guy yeah unbelievable he's unbelievable he's one of the best i'm excited to see what he has to say about phil rivers of being a grandpa this

oh there'd be great signs coming out it certainly should be something the seahawks fans are a great fan base. Now, they were out a little bit, and then now they're all the way back in, as they should be. McDonald's a real deal. You think that Sam Donald could go to a Super Bowl, win an NFC championship, do all that stuff? I do. He's playing so good with JSN and the whole crew, they're running the ball, that defense. Now, I want to see their defense on the road showed up like they do at home. Okay, so Ram's defense, not as good as Seahawks defense? Is that what you think? Because Ram's offense, we think can go with anybody, right? Yeah, definitely. And I think, yeah, I think Seahawks defense a little bit better.

Stafford, Darnold, Love. Because Green Bay's defense is outrageous. Seattle's defense can be outrageous. L.A.'s defense can be outrageous. Now you're just picking the offensive side, basically, is what you're getting. Yeah, home field advantage would be huge. If it's in Green Bay, I like Green Bay. Because those other two were definitely one weather deems.

Yeah, Jordan said, I fucking hate it that it's cold, yeah. But I mean, we just got to deal with it. What were you saying, D-Bud? No, I was just ranking the quarterbacks when I hit a little Stafford Love, Darnel in that order. And Stafford, you know, he gave the Eagles a run for their money and, you know, shitty weather game in the playoffs. Last year, obviously, Jalen Carter ended up ruining that game. But Lane Johnson's lurking, and I'm still not counting Eagles out. I know you took them off the fucking graphic.

Hey, you can't just lose on Monday night. That defense, hey, that defense is still nasty. I agree. I understand. That's when they get Jalen back. Yeah, you get Jalen back. They're nasty. That's right.

That's Seattle defense. In War, Witherspoon. He got some dogs, Ernst Jones. And McDonald is a psycho. Yeah. I think he's pretty locked in every single snap of every single day. I think he's not going to let them not be good. They went on the road, too.

I mean, the Seattle Seahawks are like, what, 11 and, what's their record on the road? Lost twice on the road because they lost at Los Angeles earlier this year. So 11 and 2 or something like that on the road? Or no, that can't be. No, he's one like his first 12th because they just beat the fuck out of Atlanta. on the road so i think he's won like 12 his first 14 games on the road in the last two seasons mcdonald damn yeah something like that and uh yeah because at home they're not as good especially with grandpa phil yeah we already did this song and dance at darland didn't we

what do you mean are they're competing for the one seed the entire year and then oh no then they sneak into the playoffs it's a different time you know trust those excuse me not sneak they get into the playoffs no no i i i'd hey i love it's it Seattle versus Denver. Hey, another shot to shine. Yeah, that's right. That's all we're looking for. It's a great, great end of the season.

It is. It is, yeah. And we're lucky to be here. Tone, watch come on over. We're excited about it all. Coach, we appreciate you. Amen. Coach, you wanted to, uh, no.

You've already, I didn't want to do you putt again. You already fucking, the putt one we just can't do again. I'll put for the team in that big thing. In the, oh, at the thing? Yes, you will. Yes, you will. That is a good call, actually. yeah yes you will we need you yeah the ex-athlet podcast fest that'll have uh games involved in it

a decathlon of sort i'm excited to see who puts that together that could be really good though good idea could be we're the only one to coach super bow and putter we're called billy mcfarland he's got it that's fire fest i didn't know it's last thing i did yes you did anything for the crew coach great show better win next week hell yeah be a friend tell a friend something nice and might change your life ordinance thing together team on me team on three one two three team good bye talk about stepping up bye it's time to level up your game introducing the all new ESPN app all of ESPN all in one place your home for the most live sports and the best championship moments The electricity is palpable.

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