The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1468 - Watt Wednesday, Vince Wilfork, Jake Paul, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 14 of the NFL season, and chat more about Phil Rivers’ first day of practice with the Colts, and AQ gives his biggest takeaway’s from the week and his top performing o-lines as we go In the Trenches, and Darius Butler breaks down the best defensive back play of the week in Everything DB. Joining the progrum to chat about this past weekend’s games, the week 15 slate, the best and worst case scenarios for the Colts with Phil Rivers potentially playing QB, and much more, is future 1st ballot Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, and current NFL on CBS color commentator, JJ Watt. Later, Jake Paul joins the progrum ahead of next week’s mega fight with Anthony Joshua on Netflix, how his training has changed, why he’s ready to shock the world, and why he thinks boxing is in such a good spot right now. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunder Girl. On this Watt Wednesday, December 10th, 2025, this sports program begins now. Football! It's magical. There's so many storylines all over the country, both in the NFL and in college, and I'll tell you what, the reason why I have this particular military appreciation cap on is because the Indianapolis Colts are all the way back. I don't know if you've been reading or seeing, but Phil Rivers, the 44-year-old grandfather,

is back with the Indianapolis Colts to lead them, not only to the playoffs, but to a Super Bowl. Now, there's a lot of different memes, okay? And there's a lot of different words being put together about old Phil Rivers holding a grandbaby in one hand and then a football in the other while wearing an Indianapolis Colts uniform. What you need to know is this team's ready for a grandpa to be their quarterback, especially if they're a quarterback, their grandpa quarterback,

will be able to spin it until the day he dies. The reason why he throws, the way that he throws, is because when he was just a little baby bowler, When he wasn't strong enough to lift up a high school football in which his dad was coaching, he wanted to throw that thing because in his soul, he was a football spinner, and his arm couldn't hold the ball up where it was at. So he was literally just throwing it like this because he was such a little boy. That maintained and continued to become what?

Well, one of the most deceiving releases in the history of ball. One of this thrown for thousands and thousands of yards a season for a long-ass time. And now the 44-year-old will see if he can divide. the test of time and lead a team to some relevancy. Now, are there some downfalls potentially? Sure. Look at this

road who the Colts have left. Okay, look at the remaining schedule for the Indianapolis Colts. Seattle Seahawks in Seattle, they're the number two scoring defense. Okay? San Francisco 49ers, oh, yeah, they're the number eight scoring defense. How about the Jags? They stink, right? Nope.

They just beat us, actually. And they're 11th ranked. And then, oh, you had to wrap it up against the Houston Texans? Yeah, that's the number one ranked defense in the league. So you've got a lot of potential boo birds from the home crowd watching Colts at the Loudhouse, potentially with these defenses, but you also got an opportunity

to build a Hall of Fame resume. If Phil Rivers comes off the couch after five years and plays well against these defense who are ranked statistically and optically when you watch them, some of the best of all time. You've got to tip your cap to old man, Phil Rivers, and you've got to say, shout out to Chris Ballard

for not just punting on the ear, okay? Not just quitting on the year. They're saying, hey, it's week 15. We're still in this thing. We can still make the playoffs. And we need a quarterback that knows this offense better than anybody. Who's that? Oh, the guy that's been coaching all year. The guy that Shane Steichen started his career with, oh, let's bring in Phil Rivers. Does he want to play?

Fair Rivers go out there and say, hell yeah, man. We just lost state championship. I got bad taste of my mouth. Right, right, right, right. Give me a ball. Give me a ball. Well, we got to do some physicals for you. Oh, don't worry about that. I'm not going to run. Don't worry about anything. Just make sure that this thing's good. And then if they're going to snap it perfect, You're going to snap perfect?

Yep, I can't be doing the hole. We need these snaps. Okay? And I might be a little bit deeper because I don't want to do anything. So maybe we get the long snap out there. Maybe we get Luke Rhodes out there because where I'm going to be staying. I need these things to be right here and then we're off and running and we're going to feed all the weapons. We're going to put everybody in the right positions.

There's a chance. This works out very well. Now, on the flip side. No. I don't even want to say it. Others are saying it. Yeah, it doesn't need to be set. The flip side is.

Well, Jeff Saturday has been talking. talking about this. The flip side is Jeff Saturday's situation that happened. Yeah, exactly. Jeff Saturday was on ESPN debating people, throwing up pancakes. Love that. Love him. Love Jeff Saturday on television. Love Jeff Saturday as a teammate. Love Jeff Saturday as NFL PA guy. Didn't necessarily love the outcome of Jeff Saturday as the head coach of the Indianapolis

Colts after he goes from sitting in his house in Atlanta with his family, gearing up for another big time get up on Monday on ESPN. And he gets phone call from Jim Herssey saying, Bards, we need you, brother. To do what, Jim? are you watching this game no it's not even playing down here what's going we need you to be our head

coach what jeff says i don't think i've ever done it before i mean i'm i'm a father i've let a family before i don't know if i've ever a high school i've done that i don't know about NFL we need just somebody to go in there he goes in there he gets a big time win yeah yeah he beats the raiders okay and it's all of a sudden well he's jeff sarah the greatest coach of all the time i want on this microphone and said bill cowher shut your mouth fire mcdaniels the raiders bill yes exactly he gets fired because of that bill cower though comes out says This is an embarrassment to coaching. There are guys that cut their teeth to become a head coach.

You're just giving this guy a job right off the couch. It's disrespectful. And he's going to do terrible, is what Bill Cowher said, basically. And I said, Bill Cowher, I got a lot of respect for you. Please, you don't know Jeff Saturday. Shut up, please. Joe Thomas, very loud. Joe Thomas did the entire campaign.

Joe Thomas, greatest left tackle of all time, maybe. Never got a chance to win because he was a Cleveland Browns, which is certainly a bummer. But he came out immediately upon Jeff Saturday getting head coaching job. Disgusted for all the assistant coaches who have put their entire lives into this thing to become. head coach someday to not get the opportunity to be the interim head coach. And I had to get on this microphone and say, well, they didn't have to. I felt at the time. You shut your fucking mouth,

Joe Thomas. Okay? And Bill Cowher, you don't know anything about coaching. I don't need to hear that at all. I was blindly behind them. They beat the Raiders. I come in again. Do my dance on Bill Cowher and Joe Thomas loudly, say, you guys, oh, you guys got all figured out, huh? Okay, you know Jeff Saturday. And then we proceeded to not only give up the biggest lead in the history of the game. We just lost every game after that. And it did not look good at all. And boy, that was tough to handle. Just as a human who was going to blindly

support the Indianapolis quotes, because I appreciate everything that the Ursa family has done for me. That was a tough moment. This could be one of those. I thought about that last night with how positive I was with everything. I could be looking back here in three weeks and it could be a, whoa, why did I ever think that it could go good?

And I think that happened to you yesterday. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius Jay Butler here. You got a chance to sleep on it. You are the U-ball champion. Congratulations you and Bob. Thank you about that. So make sure we keep that lower third up there to block that. Okay.

Debutt in who, you said? Yeah, bone and butt. Yeah. Bone and butt. D-block. Yeah. What's that? Our name's our name's D-Block.

Oh, I'm sorry. The team formerly known as bone and butt is now known as D-block and their U-ball champions. This is a beautiful trophy, by the way. Yeah. I haven't gotten to see that. I forgot about it. It's shimmering.

I know most people probably thought it was a staple to that stack of money over there, but that has been. I'm glad it finally moved. We earned it. But anything is possible. Anything is possible. So, you know, winning that championship with Bone, a lot of people forget we won a couple early in these.

It might be, what, 13 weeks you guys had the ball? So we finally got it back. Boy, I mean, where's my stoggy? Where's my stick? He's up here somewhere. But yeah, anything's possible. I slept on it, too. I was very negative yesterday.

Maybe a little too negative. I apologize to Phil if he took any disrespect to that. He's an all-time great. And we got a four-game stretch to getting a playoff. And if he does do this, I know his clock. has to reset but boy if it resets and he goes in a run here we even get anywhere close to the dance first ballot hall of favor philip rivers so yeah anything's possible we don't have to talk about the what can possibly happen which is bad it's bad see those ranks oh my god it's going to get

so loud if this goes bad it's going to get so loud my i'm not going to be able to get on the internet i'm not going to be able to get on the internet okay i'm not going to be able to do it for a couple of days. I hope everybody understands. That's what everybody expects, though. What's that? For it to be terrible. Well, just like going in this season. Well, maybe this is why the optimism level was so low. Maybe they were right the whole time. It was 96% or something like that. The most negative fan base was the Colts, and I was kind of positive going in. And then we have the number one offense in the NFL. We're the best team in the league.

And then all of a sudden, injury hits at the worst possible position. And now 44-year-old Phil Rivers is coming out of retirement saying, hey, this feels like a damn good opportunity. And I want to let Phil Rivers know. I can't wait to watch. and he knows that there's something terrible that could happen. Sure. He knows that. And that's the risk of playing ball. He doesn't know, right?

I don't think he sees that possibility. Oh, you think he sees 4-0 right here getting into playoffs? Well, 1-0. It's Philip Rivers. It's all the time. One game with a time. Good call, good call. Tough task out there in Seattle.

Yep. We're going to learn a lot. But I'm behind Phil, and I'm blindly behind Phil, and I would like Phil to know that I appreciate him coming out of his retirement life, okay, to come and do this, and commit to the city of Indianapolis and do the Colts again. And Phil should not know. about the potential downside last night there's a lot of that in my mind a lot of that in my mind

just for some of the things i was saying just from some of the things i'm saying about how good it was going and then you do look at that lineup of defenses and it's like man this could go really bad but it was already going bad yes exactly it was already happening so why not take a shot on phil rivers a guy who knows the offense better than anybody else could and also who's his backup oh riley leonard riley leonard out of notre dame well is he going to be a little bit upset that maybe phil rivers is coming in here well let's go to gruden's uh quarterback camp uh presented by barstool talking to Riley Leonard this past off season out of Alabama sir but you are a quarterback and you know Philip Rivers comes from that same place and you know

Philip have you thrown with Rivers and worked out with him yes sir he lives around he lives probably three minutes from my house so able to get over there and train with him I don't think that there's a better person to train with when it comes to fast feet you know his baby five drop to see him move in person I mean it's really cool for me a lot of people say he's got a weird release I'll tell you what it was a quickest release you know I mean you can't see his release sometimes. That ball comes out of his hands, fast and accurate. Because when I saw you play at Duke, don't I see the same type of delivery at times? Yes, sir. Anticipation, quick release. Don't I see

Philip Rivers right here? They can note about Rivers, will you? Yes, sir. We're going to learn about rivers today, and we're going to win in the pocket. Thank you to Coach Gruden, obviously, for everything that he does on the internet. And thank you for that particular clip to let me know that this isn't only a move for right now. This is a move for Riley Leonard's future. They're trying to bring in his mentor to actually get hands-on work with him. Grew up around a corner. Riley Leonard grew up in a really nice house. Yeah. Good for him. Congratulations. He went to Duke and Notre Dame. They're living around a quarter for Phil Rivers. Hey, no judgment. You're a dog. You could have been very soft from what it sounds like in my eyes from what we were visualizing. And you're a dog. And he likes

to run, pound the rock and everything like that. But I like that that's a move that potentially maybe even brings out even more out of Riley Leonard in this entire thing. And maybe this is why Phil Rivers is like, yeah, Riley's there. I like Riley. He's like a little brother to me, basically, getting an opportunity to do that. That's an added little wrinkle to this that has made me feel positive about the move, Conman.

And the big three. I feel like all the moves that have been made gives you kind of the mental fortitude to kind of trust what the big three, the ownership is doing. I think DeBuck kind of nailed it. First of all, Phil Rivers is the best. Phil Rivers has looked in five years. I think people are

forgetting that. That over these past five years, Phil has never looked better than as he does right now. To Debutt's point, people are expecting it to be terrible. That's why I think it can be terrible. It just can't be laughable, okay? We can't have him going out there tripping over lines. We can't have him going out there for a throw pig six. Like, we can't have things like that happen. We need to just hammer Jonathan Taylor. And I'm saying we, because I live in Indie too, all right? I don't want to live in a city where people are just laughing at the city that I live in. That's not fun whatsoever. So if he goes

out there and he does the whole throwing balls and they're landing 10 yards short, or he's throwing balls and every single one of them is barely getting past a line of scrimmage, we can't have that. Because if it's terrible, oh, okay, so what? At least our team's trying. At least the Colts are going

out there and trying to put a product on the field to get to the dance. But if he goes out there and first play, he tries to scramble around and he just gets Carson Wendster, yeah, he throws a ball and it quacks as it leave his hands. It's not just a duck. It's quacking out there.

Through the sky? That's when we're in the territory of like, okay, come on. Put Tyler Warren back there. We're on the read option up and down this field. Let's make this game quick. Let's keep it ugly. But let's make it quick so we don't have to watch four and a half hours of Philip Rivers just throwing lollipop. That's not going to be it.

Phil Rivers is not allowing himself to be seen publicly with a bad arm. Okay, that is not going to be something that Phil Rivers will let himself. You don't think Phil Rivers was in the backyard, okay? He had each of his kids lined up at 10 yards, okay, 10-yard difference. 10-yard, all line, check down. Yep. Somebody at the 10, at the 20, at the 30.

He made it to his fifth kid, okay? That's good enough to be able to do whatever you need. Agreed. Six kid wasn't able to get it. Okay, wasn't able to get to the other 40, sue him at that age. But if he needs everything else, it's there. Take the Alec Pierce under. I think you can take just receiving in general across the board under.

Okay. But rushing, I think you nuke that. Well, and you're benefiting greatly from Phil Rivers, and you know this. Kevin Clark reported that Drake May was working with Philip Rivers before the draft. Wow. Yeah, so, you know, Philip can still throw it, and yes, he can still trash talk, says Drake May, because they had a contest and guess who won? Phil Rivers did.

And that's that dag-gum competition level that nobody else can really find. Yeah, Carolina boys? That competitive five. that Philip Rivers has is what's going to drive him to put us in rap positions, to make the right plays, and not expose himself. And there's been some mic'd-up highlight reels put together on the Internet, much better than the ones that have been on TV. Just remember whatever's going to happen here is going to be electrifying,

and Phil Rivers is going to make it awesome. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL vets, Super Bowl champion, a man who potentially his rookie year could have, I guess, I mean, his whole career could have been. You know, 2016, 2019, six years ago. Close when I've tried. The most passing touchdowns in the NFL.

Look at that list. Look at that list. Wow. Forget. Who's playing still? Russ. Nope. He's not playing.

He's on a team. He's doing entrance to stadiums. Still good in the community. I do respect Russell Wilson, a human. Okay, football-wise, we can all agree. He stinks. At this stage? He stinks.

Hall of Famer, though. I would like to let it be known. I think Russell Wilson should be on. Hall of Famer. Sure. Super Bowl champion. I don't think you tell the story of football without Russell Wilson personally. I think that is that is a part of the story. People are going to hold a lot against him though. And there's going to be a lot against them. So I'm not saying that I don't like Russell Wilson and don't think that is case. But back in the time, Russell Wilson was the guy. This is the reason why I would talk about Russell Wilson being a first bout

Hall of Famer. But the only one that's still doing it, this guy, Phil Rivers, okay? So let's make sure we put it in respect. We haven't seen him do it yet. Remember today is the day, right? It's Wednesday. He's got to throw. It might take a G day though. He's still on the practice squad? No, they already rolled them up. Oh, they're right? I think they give him the C as well. I mean, they yanked the 17 jersey. They did. Off Dan Jones's corpse and already put it on him. Had to. Couldn't be out there in any other jersey. He's on practice squad, okay? But this is just standard operating procedure as you kind of, because why do we cut somebody immediately from the active roster if we don't

know what's going to happen here? The NFL has allowed teams to put vets onto the practice squad. It's a good move. But AQI. you big day Phil Rivers gonna be able to get the job done here what is his biggest limitation now I know we're that wasn't my laugh it's it was my but it's because of how you is looking at you as you asked this question okay yeah I don't like any of these vibes right now okay I don't like the way you're looking at me this as a guy who knows everything about all these defenses what is that what is the what is the benefits I guess of having

filling Phil Rivers as the quarterback. If you just can't find any, I guess we'll hear what you think is potentially a drawback or two in this entire thing. Well, what I think is, I remember a couple weeks ago we had Seattle Seahawks as the number one offensive line. Sam Darnel threw the ball nine times. That's what we need moving forward. We need Philip Rivers to throw the ball nine times.

Lean on the offensive line. You haven't seen him throw the ball. We don't need to see him throw the ball. What if he's right now? What if you have no idea? You're right, but he's going up to Seattle. Well, is Drake made pretty accurate? Yeah, it looks like he might be the most accurate quarterback in the history of football.

Okay, so who did he lose to in an accuracy contest this last off season? The target's right nine yards. Okay, Shane, draw them up. We need 14 different nine-yard options on every single play is what we need. Will the offense line be able to protect? What do you think? Do you think they bring in a heavy package? Do you think we're going to have to have an extra offense alignment probably because he's not going to be able to move?

And we're probably going to be running a lot? Like, what do you expect from Shane Steakin with a 44-year-old coach and Jonathan Taylor? offensive line. I think the ball needs to get out quick because as we know, Mike McDonald is going to bring pressure and he's going to bring pressure often against a quarterback who hasn't seen live defenses fly in front of his face. And how many years now? Five. Five. Five. There it is. Defenses have become much more sophisticated, much more complicated. First time he's going to step out there. He's going to see big number 99. Leonard Williams staring across lined up in an overload defense. They're going to bring double corner blitz, drop out five guys. You just

never know what's going to happen when you play Seattle. And when you haven't seen defenses now in five years? Well, well, well, well. He's got a bunch of kids. Rumor has it. He's been playing a fair amount of Madden as a play. Can you see? So he might know McDonald's defense better than McDonald does because he was probably studying back in Baltimore whenever he's playing Madden just a few years back. So, I mean, we're in a new world. What about virtual reality? I see Philip Rivers walking in, taking the reps, you know, and then actually getting into it, seeing the whole thing. They're saying he'd catch up quickly. Now, I was told, though, mentally wouldn't be the issue. So if it's been five years

and they're changing it up, it should be like riding a bike for Philip Rivers. to understand what they're trying to do. Physically is the big thing. So you talk about it coming out quick. What does that mean? Cut blocks on the offensive lines? Yeah, both tackles. Both tackles should be cutting.

We jump set in the middle of the pocket, get a nice clean pocket. Maybe even set them up at six yards instead of five yards. Just let him get the ball and get that thing out fast. Okay, so we think shotgun. We got a shotgun so he doesn't have to do the drop back. We don't have to worry about stepping on somebody's shit or you stepping on your own shit or any of the stuff doing any of the shit, right? That's right.

We got him back here. Jonathan Taylor here? Absolutely. Tyler here? Sure, we could do that. Okay. We get double chips going out if it's a pass play. Boom, on the way.

We run a lot of screens, maybe a little tight end Y screen early. Get them some confidence, get them some completions early. Little bubble screen, maybe even a little halfback screen. Get them three screens right off the bat. And what Seattle, Seattle knows that they're trying to do this as well. So is that pressure, pressure, or are they fake pressure kind of hold because they know everything's coming to? Well, Seattle does a lot of simulated pressures, but they also bring it. And they are going to bring it this weekend.

I guarantee it early, they're going to bring something just to see how Philip Rivers can pick this up. Oh, a little bit of a temperature check on the 44-year-old grandpa. Absolutely. And also, you guys are rolling around his feet a little bit, I assume, after? Oh, you're going to touch. See, you can't do that. That's the worry. Like a Rogers jet situation. Like, what if it comes out and first throws a dart? Don't. And it's like, oh, my God, hold on. Phil Rivers. He's going to do it. And then just one hit. No.

Just don't want to hear that. That's the devastation. That's the devastation. That's the devastation that could happen. That might be the best case scenario, actually. For who? For the Colts? If Phil Rivers did it blow both his knees out and bolt his shoulders on one hit, then maybe we go on and win this game, you know? Like, that might be... Both his shoulders? Everything.

If Philip Rivers doesn't get sought in half by Leonard Williams and his whole body collapsed, then we might go on a run. I don't like that that's in the universe. Let's head over to Hammer. Dot, Dad, Dad. AP tone. What's going on, brother? Oh, you just took a dog.

Yeah, he just got that taking a poop. Yeah, for what I've been told. Bruce told me, hey, Tone's back, but Bruce set him up for him not actually being back. What's that, boys? Hey, happy you're okay there. Love the hoodie. Love what you're doing also. AQ, we respect and appreciate the troops.

Vince Wolfwork will actually be joining us in about 10 minutes. Who just wrapped up a holiday tour with the U.S.O where I think he went to five different countries in seven days. Saw the troops said what's up. So, Matt respect. Obviously, Army Navy this weekend, cannot wait to see how that ends up. obviously a special game in our country. Now, we're talking about Phillip Rivers, and Connor just made a point maybe about Philip Rivers,

getting both of his shoulders blown out and both of his knees at one particular hip. Maybe he saw it an actual half in this entire thing. There's certainly some negatives. What do the sports books say? Because I thought about a couple of these games. Houston's playing who? The Arizona Cardinals.

What's the spread there? That's got to be a big one. Arizona just got absolutely demolished. That was nine and a half. That's got to be the biggest of the weekend, right? Nine and a half? No, it's not the biggest weekend. The Eagles are playing the Raiders.

That one is an 11.5. Let's see here. The Niners are playing the Titans. That one's 12.5. So that one's got to be the biggest. Nope. Nope. Colts are going to Seattle.

13 and a half. That's actually the biggest one of the weekend. 13 and a half. Yeah, we had the Titans. Niners won wrong there. Niners obviously favored over the Titans there, especially at home. But whenever you're 13 and a half? Yeah.

Biggest the weekend of big spreads. Houston is playing Arizona. Uh-huh. go football too without both starting tackles for Arizona yep what this is Arizona color commentator AQ Shipley with some information

that you as a national potential gambler if you do have a gambling problem we would like you to get help for that obviously but this is somebody that maybe has some information early in the week that we don't all have both tackles out for the Arizona Cardinals and they're playing the number one defense that has the Houston Sack station if you're just looking ahead

at a game that like you would think biggest spread of the weekend. You would think it would be that one. Colts, Seahawks is the biggest, they have no respect for Phil. Yeah, but Jacobi has played football this century. Five years, century. More decade. Decade. Decade. Okay, yes. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, time is something. And time is what we're all battling against. And we're going to see if time had troubled Phil Rivers. Or did time. make Phil Rivers better.

And maybe Phil Rivers finds himself in the Hall of Fame. He might be fast as shit now. Who says he doesn't have a 10-yard burst that we've never seen? Maybe he has one of them trailers that Matthew Stafford was going. And maybe he's been in one of those trailers. I'm mortal. What's that? He's old school.

Living in Alabama? You think that's, you think that's me? Yeah, I mean, last time we... I would say Birmingham, Alabama has advanced minutes of technology. Remember there's where Dr. Andrews is located. Last time we had him on the show, I think he had like AOL for internet. He had pretty much dial-up, so I don't know if he's getting the Amortal Chamber,

but he could. He might have that thing parked right outside his backyard. Phil Rivers at his press conference was asked about his current weight, and his response was, I'm not sure. Not sure what it was when I walked off field in Buffalo, but I ain't ran away from anybody anyway. So who cares if I look like a blimp, boys? It ain't about that.

It ain't about that. What is he doing, man? He looks like a tackle. He looks like an offensive. Well, and that's good. Because remember, when Ben Rothersberger kind of grew into that shape as well, he was impossible to take down. That's right. And that is, you know, Phil Rivers already has the double ankles taped.

That was good. Exactly. I mean, we should definitely be wearing all black, but I love the way he looks. And it's great. We love you. We love you, man. Go get him, Phil. Let's talk about some other news around the football.

He looks great. to be fair the last time we saw on the field I know it was five years ago he was still spinning it so it's not like we you know the last time we saw five years yeah but it's not so we've seen some quarterbacks at the end look absolutely terrible

so playoffs right yeah the last time you almost beat the bills he is the best he is by far the best quarterback that we have had since the whole thing happened just the graphic then he takes yeah that they put together Colts VZia and that was rude to put

Great graphic. Rude to put that together. Since Andrew Luck's retirement, all the quarterbacks that we have tried and given a go and paid. I mean, there's multiple $20 million quarterbacks in there that we tried to kind of like replace in there. Philip Rivers was by far the best one we had.

No, sorry, Danny Dimes was the best guy. There you go. That we absolutely had. Phil Rivers before that got us to the playoffs, was not able to run. I mean, he was not able to run. He was Carson Wentz with two sprains all the time. I mean, it was peg-legging that entire thing.

But just his competitive spirit, his ability to understand what's going on and spinning it. He was always spinning it. It felt like he was always helping his teammates. Talking shit for his teammates, setting things up. It's like, you get a guy back in the room. I think that's good news. And we're pulling for him. All right, let's go to college football.

Congrats. Matt Campbell is your guys' coach. That's a big deal. Yes. Wow. Yes. Matt Campbell's head coach of the Penn State Nittney Lions. AQ, obviously, you're a member of the Penn State Nittney Lion cult. This would have been a good hire, I think, immediately out the jump. If you guys move on from James Franklin and announce that you're

hiring Matt Campbell out of Iowa State. I think ball numbers that know Matt Campbell would say, that's a great hire. We don't know how the hell you got Matt Campbell out of Iowa State. NFL had been trying to poach Matt Campbell for years, allegedly. Other teams have been trying to poach Matt Campbell for years. I think once Matt Campbell maybe learned of some of the opportunity that was available, maybe it was a decision like, yeah, I should go try what Penn State has.

It was very emotional. Iowa State was very cool on the way out, very thankful for it. It felt like it was a celebration of Matt Campbell going over there. how do you feel at this hiring now i will say i can't believe it happened for you guys i thought you guys were in some deep deep deep shit whenever it was all happening but this feels like a massive smashing success of a hire for you guys especially with the culture you're trying to have yeah i thought this was a home run and i thought uh just watching everybody talk about him all of the media everybody thought this was a home run hire i think it's the best fit all of the

things and i think he nailed his press conference he showed emotion he showed humility he was humble, and he kind of gave props and thanks to the history while also acknowledging the future. I think he's been fantastic from the minute he took over, and they did a great thing in keeping Terry Smith. So I think they hit a home run on all levels. And it was getting bad. It was getting ugly. There's leaked audio, which I don't like. I don't like that at all. I felt weird listening to it, but I certainly did, you know, because he was out there so he had to know what was being said. That felt like a weird thing. It felt like there was a tack from within, too, on the entire process?

Obviously, the leaked audio was somebody in a room. Didn't feel like there was a lot of people in that room. No. From the way it sounded, it didn't feel like there was a lot of people in the room. I wonder if Pat Kraft, who was the one speaking in that audio,

could put himself back in the room and go, like, well, wait a minute, there was... I'm sure he's... There's three people in those. I think we could probably figure out who that is, but that was an attack from within. And then there was donors that were unhappy with the situation. It felt like it was getting loud

to get Matt Campbell and kind of quiet at all. Great hire. thing personally for you guys. Good luck to Penn State. Let's talk about good for Oklahoma. The university, just canceling all the shit. Awesome. We're in a playoffs. We've got a home game. Don't come to class. We're not expecting it. Your professors don't want to come to class. None of us want to do this. So let's celebrate the hell out of ball. Let's head over to Hammer. Dan! Don! I love the message coming out of Oklahoma, boomer sooner world tone digs. Yeah, I do too. This is awesome.

This is, you know, schools have done this in the past, but just to see this happening and it's something that needs to happen so that the students could get, I assume the football team wanted this, the coaches wanted this, everybody wanted this so the students can get lubed up all day long and be loud and full throat for the game on Friday night because it's a big one. They won down in Alabama, but they got dominated as far as yards they were

Alabama had 200 more yards than Oklahoma when they played Bama. Oklahoma had a pick six and a huge punt return that kind of flipped that game. A lot of turnovers from Ty Simpson in that game with that really, really good Oklahoma defense. So this one, it's a one point spread. Some places have it, Oklahoma favored by one. Some people have it, I'm a favored by one or one and a half,

but most of the money lines are minus 110, minus 110. This is by far the closest spread of the first round, and a lot of people are thinking it could be the closest game as well. Yeah, and then obviously next day, got Miami and Texas A&M, Tulane, O'Miss, JMU, Oregon. Now, watch out.

Who? Oregon better watch out. Yeah, those ducks better watch out. What's that? Everybody. Feels like the only dog that can win. JMU? Might be JMU this weekend.

Next weekend, excuse me. Oregon's got their coordinators, taking head coaching jobs, other places. Are they even focused, a lot of people are asking? Oh, is Oregon going to think that JMU is just going to waltz? Remember, JMU, a lot of wins this year. Oh, yeah. One loss, JMU, a lot of wins this year. They're a winning program.

A lot of people think Oregon's just going to kill them. And maybe Oregon thinks that. Is that what you guys are thinking? Well, I don't know. Rumor has it, too. Bob Chesney, head coach of JMU said, hey, if we win this game, I'm not going to use L.A. I'm staying here. Where did you hear that from?

It's been floating around Twitter. leaked a little bit somebody's going to put that out as if we actually mean that though I saw that on Twitter I also saw an ex that Dante Moore is already thinking like so how does draft prep work? You think he's not focused on JMU? That's just I mean his OC

where's his OC? Okay So you guys are Kentucky I didn't know we were doing all this. Trap game They're 20 and a half point That's not good Just like Seattle Is Oregon about to get Yeah

No they are Yeah You know that 2020 Super Bowl team I was on? Three JMU offensive linemen on that team. What? I didn't know they had NFLers. Earl Watford, Aaron Stinney, Josh Wells, all offensive linemen. They're going to win in the trenches.

Don't sleep on JMU. I got a staff for you, okay? Yes. Tell them, tone. There's four teams where the offense and defense is both ranked in the top ten. That's Indiana. That's Texas Tech. That's Oregon.

And that's JMU. Boom. Number one team in the country. where do all their players come from? Last year. And where their culture getting set from? Yeah, JMU, I guess. You're right.

Okay, all right. I understand what we're saying. Oregon is different this year for them, though, right? Yeah, because they're hanging us focused. All right, let's move along. That's crazy to think. Because if Tulane wins or JMU wins? Well, two lanes not with it.

Okay, there you have it. That team sticks. Ole Miss is going to win by 50, but JMU. JMU is the only one that's got a chance for that big of upset. that two lanes i don't love two lanes head coach saying i got two phones two jobs two hours asleep less you're going into the playoffs we don't need to see the split hat with florida and two you just can't do that was real split tarp is sick yeah i don't think people are very happy that his team's in there either so him saying yeah you're not you think about me i can be doing a lot more

shit you know but on that note congrats to him on getting a job of florida and getting two lanes A lot of people attacking Notre Dame and, you know, Miami and Alabama and everything. Tulane and JMU are in the college football playoff. And I don't want to stick up for ESPN because everybody understands that I've gone to war with ESPN publicly multiple times throughout a lot of different years and a lot of different events. But everybody that's say all ESPN cares about is ratings and money, you don't think they would have called and said, hey, we're changing the top five champions thing. We're not having two of these teams in this 12 team playoff, right?

I thought about that last thing. I'm like, why didn't they, we could have got noted, they could have said we could only get one group of five chance. There could have been some clause that they could have added in there. And the only people that would have been pissed were to small school that was going to get fuck this particular year. So two group of five schools in there, Notre Dame out. I don't know if money was the decision.

Okay. I don't know if money was the decision. And I don't know if necessarily the TV network was in control of it completely. You're saying they wouldn't have rather had Notre Dame versus Ole Miss or Notre Dame versus Oregon than who those? teams are playing right now? I just don't think so. I mean, there's some people in positions that we don't...

Maybe. Have, think that you make a lot of good decisions in some places, okay? We've seen them all. It is crazy when you get a peek behind a curtain, too, at a lot of places. I'm not saying just one place. I'm talking a lot of places. You get a peek behind a curtain, somebody's making a decision, go, how the fuck is that? That's the thing, making the decision?

Then you look at it, this is inspirational. If that thing can get that position. anybody can do anything. Why are they holding their breath? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a five-time all-pro, a man who played 13 seasons in the NFL, beloved, I believe, by literally everybody.

Fresh off a U.S.O. holiday tour where he went to five countries in the Middle East in seven days to say thanks to the troops. Living legend, two-time Super Bowl champion, Vince Wilford. Yeah, me. How are you, man? What's going on, everyone?

Dude, thank you for joining us. Thank you for going on that U.S. O tour. I had the opportunity to do that. I forget what year it was. We went over to Japan. The U.S. people are fantastic, spectacular. How was your trip? And what's your big takeaway from, Vince?

You know, this is my third year doing it. And this year was absolutely amazing again. You just understand how much our service members and their family sacrifice and just a little bit of our time during this holiday season, just to bring them a little joy and little smiles. It means a lot to them. We are represented very, very well as America in these different countries. So to be able to get, you know, guys out there like myself, Jeff Ross, the Rostmaster, Ernest, and Cody, Lodon, and, you know, Mia Jackson, you know, a comedian.

You know, we just brought all these cheers and joy for the holiday season. And it's always a touching time of the year for me just giving back and just showing them how much love and support. support we have for them because these guys are deployed and you know away from families and all that stuff so you know they do the dirty work and they make their sacrifices daily for us to have the life that we have and the least we can do is just give our time back to them so you know we're not all military but at the same time we can all support and I think during the holiday season right after Thanksgiving heading into Christmas being able just to be with our service members man it's just a joy and it's just so much excitement when they see us and they smile and

some of the time you know we heard a lot like man you know these these higher-ups telling like we haven't seen you smile in months you know and all of a sudden they laugh and smiling and have a good time and that's what the u.s.o is all about just giving our time and just understand that they're not along and we hear the back and we support them you're a good man Vince thank you the truth thank you the truth but you're a good man for doing that Vince obviously you don't have to do that you know like the people that do charity and give back Everybody's like, well, that's what you're supposed to do. Well, yes, I think that is what you're supposed to do, but not a lot of people do that.

Signing up to leave your family and friends during a time in which it's very vital to be around family and friends to spend time with heroes that can't be with family and friends. He's a very cool thing, Vince. We appreciate the hell out of you doing that. I was following along with Ernest, you know, the DeVille Records, Big Loud Boys were posting a lot. I saw you in helicopters. I saw Jeffrey Ross doing some magical stuff. Cody was obviously cooking out there.

I love following along with what you guys did, and we can't thank you enough for doing. on that. Now, on that note, a lot of ball knowers, okay, in those military trips, a lot of ball numbers, a lot of opinions, a lot of ideas, a lot of football fans. Who do you think is in the best position around the NFL right now if you were to compare

your two teams, the Houston Texans or the New England Patriots? And then we can also add in the Indianapolis Colts because we just signed Philip Rivers, Vince. Yeah. Yeah, Vince. Yeah, Vince. You guys are in some shit now, brother. But on that note, you're

two teams, the Patriots and the Texans, seemingly very, very good. How much you've been paying attention, and what are kind of your thoughts on both the squads? Well, I'll pay attention. I think both of these organizations and the teams has got something to prove. I think, you know, what Mike is doing in New England is amazing.

Get the team and rather the troops back and get us back on track. But, you know, to me, the scary team is Houston, you know, because if Houston, if they could just figure out their offense, they're going to be a problem. They got one of the top defense, if not the top defense in the game.

And we all know defense winning Super Bowls. And they have it. You know, if they just get it together offensively, I think that's a scary, scary team to see in the postseason. And I remember in 2007, what it's going to playing a New York Giants team that was, I think they made a playoff 9 and 7 was a wild card and they went on and went to win the Super Bowl. But they peaked at the right moment. And I can see that happening with Houston if they get offensively, if they get it going,

I think this team can be very, very scary. So I'm pretty excited for both organizations. I played for both of an amazing organization. Great fan base. And, you know, this time of the year, you have to play your best. So we're going to see what's going to happen. But I'm sitting pretty good in a good shape with two of my former teams in the race and in the hunt with Houston being in the hunt.

So I'm just looking forward to the rest of the season. I like that you have two teams that are winning because Houston Texans organization for a little bit, there. You know, they look like ass, ass cheeks. And then the Patriots, the Patriots had a couple years there. It's like, wait, wait, are the Patriots about to be ass cheeks? And then, lo and behold, two organizations that have good people in powerful positions, turn it around and make them great. Now, on that note, speaking of being great for a long time, we have diehard Patriots fan, Boston Connor, who is very eager to speak with you, Vin. Yeah, Vin, thank you for

your service, first of all. I mean, I think across the board, you're one of everybody's favorite players just in the history of football but in New England you are especially beloved I mean every single year you're on that D line it was just kind of something that the team and fans could hang their hat on and speaking of the D line the Patriots paid Milton Williams the D tackle from Philadelphia over a hundred million dollars I mean he's the highest paid player in the history of the Patriots and he plays on the D line the Texans their highest paid player is the Neil Hunter also on the D line Can you just talk about the importance of having that kind of top-tier dominant defensive line and why that leads to so much success, not just as a team, but a defense as a whole?

And just your thoughts around D'Amico and Mike Vrable being kind of defensive head coaches, especially in today's NFL where everybody seems to be trying to get the newest, you know, brightest offensive head coach. Well, I think it starts up front. You know, I'm a big believer. You have to start in the trenches, offensive, and defensive line. if you want to be successful playing the ball with football. I don't care what level you're at because, you know, we've seen a couple years ago, Cincinnati, you know,

had a shot at the end of the game, but they couldn't get the ball to a wide open Jamarck Chase with Ramsey falling on the ground because Sam was in here, Aaron Donnell was in his face being sacked. So, you know, and I think I posted then, I'm like, everybody want to talk about these elite skilled positions, but if you can't get the ball to them, it doesn't matter. So I'm a big believer in going up front,

fixing the offense, defense, a line and building your roster around there. You have great success in this league. And with, you know, with D'Amico and Mike, two defense of mine and coaches, you know they're going to play some good football. You know, they've been doing amazing jobs. Demiko, you know, the couple years he's been a head coach,

man, his defense's been on fire. And Mike, you know, I played with Mike. I played for Mike when I was in Houston and everything. So I know defensively, they understand what it takes to get there, right? And I think the biggest, that's for me, if I'm building the roster, that's the first place I would attack because without those guys up front, you know, it really doesn't matter. And plus, they're game setters. You know, they set the tone in games. You know, if you can have a defensive office line can run the football and can be able to stop the runner and brush the pass and, you know, get guys in third and long, you want to have some good success.

So I think both teams, they have what it takes defensively on that front in the offense. line. That's the key. Can you block? Can you hold up? Can you defend the run when you have to defend the run? Even though this league now is a more passing league. But then you're going to have to run the ball at some point. Can you get those yards? If it's fourth and one, can you get that one yard?

When you talk about it all year in training camp and leading the season, it's going to come down one. It's going to come down to a play sooner or later where you have to be able to stop the run and make a play. Can you gain that inch? Can you gain that one or two yards and fourth down? defensively can you hold

can you hold and be sufficient on those plays? So I think both of these teams has it up front and that's why it's going to be some fun football. And we're just talking about these two teams, but we have other teams in the league that has

pretty good offense and defensive lines too. So I'm a huge, huge believer with the front offense and defense line. I'm going to always spend my money in there. If I'm a GM or a head coach, I want to make sure we have played or playmakers at those positions, guys that can change the game.

Build from the inside out, you know, I think we believe in that as well. We actually have a segment every single week where we go in the trenches and we rank the top five offensive lines each single week and that has basically told us which teams are going to win the Super Bowl. If you can block and you can stop people

from killing your quarterback, you're going to win the Super Bowl. The defensive line, though, if you look at the Philadelphia Eagles and the teams that made it last year, the D-line having four ones basically, seemingly is the new game. So the trench is more important than it has been,

I think, in like the last 10 years nowadays. On that note, a man who battled in the trenches with you has a question. Yeah, Vince, my name's A. Q. Shipley. I played 12 years as a center in the league. Went against you twice. Once in New England, once in Houston. I'm sure you remember. Because those weeks,

yeah, night sweats. Night airs, all of the things. I think we actually have a clip. We might have a clip of how hard I made. And then all of a sudden, you pressed the shit out of me. So that was really cool. So that was really cool.

But I just want to know at what age you realized that you were bigger, stronger, and more athletic than every single person on planet Earth. I think I was high school. You know what I understand? As a freshman in high school, I was 275 pounds. You know, as a freshman in my junior year, I mean, my sophomore year, I was 300 pounds. So I did moving from defensive end to defensive tackle. So I knew then, you know, I was pretty gifted when it came to my size, my speed, my, you know, football IQ. I learned a lot of football, especially going to UM and then getting a chance to play for Bill Belichette.

I learned a lot of football there. So I think in the league, it took me four years, and a lot of people don't understand, I had to learn how to play nose tackle because I was a defense attack in my whole career. So defense attack and nose tackle are two different positions. So I have to learn the game of nose tackle. me four years when I realized how to play that position and I was real comfortable with that position. I think in year four, that's when my career

really took off because I kind of understood how to play that position. So, you know, I've always known since high school, like this is what I was destined to do. This is my gift. How can I be the best I possible can be and just put the work in and just

learn the game itself from the inside out, you know, understand offensive formations and and blitz and coverages, the rotation, if we check, what we're going to do. It was a lot that came with it, but I put the time in just to understand all those things, and it worked out well for me.

A lot of highlights against the Colts here. Don't love that. Obviously, you've got a chance to witness it in real time. You talked about going to Miami and obviously playing great ball. You were a part of something special down there and we're in a special time of season. Go ahead, Dee, bud.

Yeah, first and foremost, great to see you, Big V. Can't wait to catch a with you, man, down near the crib. But as a BCS national champion, what's your thoughts on the new format with the college football playoffs now at 12 teams with their shot to shine? Maybe going to 16 soon. Who knows? Hey, Miami got in. Stop shaking your head. Stop shaking your head.

I think we need to go back to the 14 model, even back to the old school BCS model and figure out who can play for the national championship. But what's your thoughts on that? And kind of remind us who are some of those other players on that defense with you on a national championship team? you know right now college football is way different i mean um it's a lot of football being played i mean you know you're looking at teams now playing 14 games or whatever it may be you basically plan an NFL season night college you know you talk about these kids that still developing and still learning the game so i'm not a huge fan of it but hey it is what it is who cares what i think but we care Vince no that's why we asked that's what you know it's always going to be a problem right

because, you know, you have some conferences are better, you know, some don't have enough talent, enough people in their conference, and they go out and be undefeated in the first question they asked, but you didn't play nobody. And I always tell people, hey, we played in the Big East when I played, you know, and we went on and we did what we had

to do, and, you know, history, just itself, you know, with guys, you know, Jonathan Vilman, DJ Williams, you know, Ed Reed, you talk about Mike Rump, you're talking about a Roska, Full of, you know, Andre Johnson, all offensive, Clinton porters

Willis McGahey So it goes on and on Sean Taylor You know So it goes on and on and we was in the Big East And it's just a tough situation to be in

You won't always be wrong So I'm a big I'm a big believing You don't leave it up to The committee Simple as that You don't leave it up to the committee Because whatever the committee

Come back with Hey it is what it is If you just take care of business You don't have to worry about that So I see both sides of it. I'm a huge fan of hey, take care of business, win the games you're supposed to win. And, you know, with the whole Notre Dame

situation, you know, head to head, it is what it is. You know, we beat you. It is what it is. So, it's just tough, you know, it's just tough. And somebody going to always be upset every year. I don't care if we have 20 teams. It's going to be that 21st team saying, hey, we

should have been in. So it doesn't matter. You can't please everyone. So you just got to do the best you can. But as a team, you have to understand. Don't leave it in anyone else's hands, you'd have to take care of your own business, win the games you're supposed to win. And if you do that, you won't have

no word. But if you get to the point where you're dropping the game, you're dropping two games and all of a sudden it's in the committed end, you can't do anything but sit back and just let it happen, whatever may be. He was speaking directly to Notre Dame right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep. I'm speaking to Notre Dame. I can

already hear Marcus Freeman, though. That's the entire offseason. That's the entire. We're not leaving to anybody's hands. Like, that is the, that's probably their drive, their motivation. I think they've got a good team next year. Good team. He's still there.

Who? Marcus Freeman. What do you think is going to happen? He should be there. He's the current odds-on favorite to be the next head football coach in the New York Giants. What? What? Yeah.

Wow. Okay. I mean, that's different. I mean, if he's leaving that program to go to the pro, I get it. But as far as being fired and stuff like that, I don't think. I think he's doing an amazing job at Notre Dame. I mean, he's doing an amazing. job there. So it is what it is. But if he's taking, if he's jumping shipping here into the

NFL, you know, good for him. And congratulations, if that's, that's what it is. But I think he's a heck of a coach. I think he'd rather the troops, you know, taking those two losses back to back early in the season, one against us and it out right after us. He rather than the troops. The team got behind him. He got behind a team. They took, they put their head down. They put their foot in the ground. And they just went on the rampage with winning, winning, winning, winning. So that's the size of a good football team. So I think at the end of the day, like I say, when you leave

it up to the committee, once again, let me get back, Notre Dame fans. Let's let's talk about no committee. Let's talk about the way the NFL is run. There's some teams, you know, that could go on a magical run. We just signed Phil Rivers, 44-year-old

grandpa. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Vince, you are also 44 years old. What? And I don't, I I'm sure you remember back in 2011. You picked off of Phil Rivers Pass, so, you know, he can still do it. The question is, can you still do it? If D'Amico Ryan, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, if Domingo Ryan's or Mike Vrable calls you, let's say, week 18, and they say, hey, Vince, we need you. Listen, we need you to come back in maybe for one or two games to help us win a Super Bowl.

I know you've already won two, but, yeah, we need five snaps. We need five snaps, Adia. And they might be the most crucial five snaps. Force and goal on, exactly. You know what it is. Right. You know what we're doing here, Vince. Is there any way you would entertain that?

Absolutely. I mean, my mind, I'm like, yeah, I can do it. I can still play the level I played at my mind, but my body tells me something different. So I'm just being honest with you, but, you know, I spent 13 years in the game and I enjoyed every minute of it and it was time for me to walk away so i i sit happily retired home and just living life so i would not entertain it but my heart in my heart yes i'm playing every sunday in my heart are you still swimming yeah i still swimming i still swim i thought that was genius hard knocks maybe before hard knocks i'd heard it that like instead of running in the off

season you started swimming because of your joints and then you felt like you actually got better shape because of that and made your game better. Is that true? Yes. Yes. I used to swim. You know, once I got like a year round year six or seven, I, you know, got introduced to swimming. And when I tell you, it changed, it changed my game big time. So I didn't ever, after that, my conditioning was swimming. You know, I were walking swim. You know, that was, that was my regimen. That's that, it worked for me. And that was the best shape I've been in, you know, on my career when I introduced that swimming. So, yeah, I'm a big, big fan of swimming. That swim cardio is different.

Where you're working every muscle in your body. Absolutely. Every muscle in your body you're working. And you die. It was good for me. How's the golf game right now? What's the handicap at? I'm sitting there about eight, but I haven't played in a while.

But yeah, I'm sitting there about eight still. I played probably like two months ago and shot at 84. So I got to get back on the league. What did you do? What did you do? You were a shot? What was he? I think I put in a shot put in a shot put yeah do you got a jumper I played all of that

and you yeah how much did you weigh how much did you weigh how much did you weigh 200 pounds how about when you were playing when I was what was my weight when I was playing yeah I started the season I would be but anywhere from 325 to 335 beginning in towards the end of the year I would pick up I would pick up more weight it was a strategic for me me. But I'll tell you what, I never missed the way in. I tell you that, because I knew when weighing days was on that Thursday, I would be ready to weigh in, but I told Bill all the time, hey, Bill, if you catch me two hours after this way in, you might be shocked. So don't even try to pull it.

It's like a boxer. It's like a boxer waiting for a fight. AQ is doing, hey, that's a trenchist move. This guy was drinking. What's that shit? Magnesium citrate. It was basically a laxative. Yep, you've done it. I've been there, done it. Yep. Trust me, man. I've been in. I've tried everything up on the sun legally, but, man, I've been there.

And it was like a bin of boxing, you know. I take it off and put it back on. And I have a couple days before game day, and I'll be ready to game day and then do it all again, you know, in the following weeks. So it was fine times, but at the same time, put a lot of stranding about you live and you learn, you know. But you have to do what you got to do, especially when it's $800 a pound. So, yeah, you do what you have to do to save them to coin.

So, I did that. smart you're a genius seemingly an incredible guy shout to you for this USO tour for the third straight year doing it during the holiday season with the big loud boys and everybody and Jeffrey Ross and shout out to you for what you did for football we appreciate your contributions to sport man thank you for everything I appreciate you thank you guys for having me on you have a great holidays are you still on the grill at all come on man that's all I do that I'm in the grill

Ladies' gentlemen, that's Vince Will Fork. Yeah, me. I am the grill. We need another foreman. Oh, Vince. The Will Fork. Yeah, it feels like that. I mean, that's a lot of work for somebody.

Good luck out there. Somebody go do that. He is the grill. You already have the ad. All right, before we get out of here, we have four minutes. Let's go through AQ's big takeaways from this past NFL weekend, shall we? AQ has three things that are his big takeaways that need to be chatted about a little bit more. First one from the weekend that was,

Retro Rogers. That's right. He turned back the clock this week. He was vintage Aaron Rogers. And let's take a look at the very first throw he threw in this game. Let's drop back to pass. Fake, play action. Yep, let's just send this thing as far as we can throw it.

Perfect ball to decay down the sideline. First throw of the game. Now, let's go back to what he used to do, right? He used to run around. He used to do all this stuff and show his athleticism. Right here, sit in the pocket. Yep, first of all, look at the protection by the O line. Great.

All the time in the world. Broken play, moved to the left. Let's sidearm his bow. bitch to D.K. Wow. Another big play. And then this one. This is old school Aaron.

Again, off his back foot. Little fade away, three-step drop. As we get this snap, just sit there. Yep, let's just heave this thing. Back foot, fade away. Perfect ball over the outside shoulder. Also had a rushing touchdown, obviously, did the discount double check all over the place, had the day in a game that I think Steelers fans were pumped about.

Let's go to Hammer. Don. Tone, is that retro Rogers about to be the Rogers that we see for the foreseeable future? I hope so because that was awesome. And that was kind of the air that we were seeing at the beginning of the year. And then there was that lull during the middle. And hopefully this brings them into the rest of the year.

But yeah, that was his best game of the year. And it didn't help. Like, you saw the protection there. The Ravens only have 19 sacks, I think, on the season. They are not very good at getting to the quarterback. Like, if Rogers is going to have time, he's going to be able to make those throws. So hopefully that's what we get. Next gen stats says Aaron Rogers completed all three deep passes,

20 plus yards for 121 yards against the Ravens in week. 14, with all three going to DK, so had three deep passes, complete all of them, only took three shots. He had just seven deep completions on the season entering week 14. They hadn't been very explosive. Maybe that'll add to it. D.K. McCaff, awesome to watch. Him playing Gunner, once again, we'll never say another thing about D.K.

McCaff. What's the second? Takeaway from you, AQ? Love conquers all. Sorry, A.Q. I'm going to say that. No, I love it. No, he's fantastic.

And this is why I wanted to showcase him, obviously, for Ty, but because he was that good. Against the Blitz. cover zero numerous times in this game. Let's take a look at this. Boom, he gets cover zero, slides left, moves up in the pocket and just slings this thing down the field to Melton for the touchdown. I mean, he shows this all season long. This one is incredible.

Again, blitz. Notice how many people are up at the line of scrimmage. He's checking. He's recognizing he's getting the blitz all figured out, getting the line in the right spot. We snap this thing. The guy off the edge pushes his D. Look at that one.

If we can rewind that one more time, look at the way he throws this. I mean, he's literally just sitting back there, watch us, off back foot, right leg, just throws it to a spot to Watson, unbelievable. And then this last- Those used to be the scary throws. Yeah. Those were the ones that were turnovers. Correct. Now they're becoming completion because he knows what the defense is doing. Yeah, and that's just like part of his game now.

You're right. It used to be like you'd see him throw off that back foot. Like, oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. And now it's like, okay, he's got something. Let's go to the last takeaway here. AQ. Shipley, Love Conquers-all, and Pooka Power. This guy was unbelievable. had a front row seat for this. This is incredible.

Watch this. This was the first big completion from Stafford. Just pluck this thing. Look at the hands on him. He's so strong with his hands. Here's another one. A dig from the other side. He's down here on the right in the slot. He's going to come up. Stafford throws this ball in between three defenders over top and a linebacker. One-handed catch there. Again, another one here. This is at the end. This is a two-minute drill. Seven route. Need a play. Need a chunk. Yep. Go to Pooka. And then this last one. Watch this double move up top real quick. Bumble Bump.

Oh. There it is. How good is that? That's Pooka Power, baby. We had Retro Rogers. We had Love Conquers All. We got Pooka Power. And we got our two on the other side.

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It is the greatest. God bless your soul at the Toxic Table at Boston Conner. And at Ty Schmidt, nine-year NFL. VET, Darius J. Butler is here, 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl Champion, AQ Shipley is here. And joining us live from Hammer, Dad, Dad, is AP-Tone. Tone, how are the gomblers doing? Okay, how are we doing as we sit here staring down the most meaningful football of the year? How are the gamblers against these sports books who have all the AIs at their disposal

where we only have our brains and our hearts and our feelings and our minds and our projections of things that can never be as accurate as Joe DiNardo on a Doppler, but our hopes for how a game is going to come? How are the fans doing against these greedy sports books who seemingly always have it right? Yeah, if we remember going back to the start of the season with the NFL, it was, you know, where teams were getting 60% or more of the bets. It was like on a trend of 1 in 4, 0 in 5, 1 in 4. And in the middle of the season, you know, things got better. Didn't have any winning weeks, but there was, you know, there was 4 and 6s and stuff like that.

There has been one winning week this year where teams getting 6%. percent or more of the bets where the gamblers have had a winning record yet one crazy one that's not good all it takes is one i mean that's not i'm sure people are hitting touchdown parlays and stuff like that but we're just going strictly off of game lines that's where we're saying that yeah and there's parley's hitting all the time those things are certainly they always hit that's what they say at the more parlays you do the better chance you have a win that's not real nope that that is thank you for that that was us checking ourselves immediately in the middle of something just like what you said earlier.

I heard if they win, the coach ain't leave. It's like, that's not real. We're going to make sure people know that's not real. And what he said, not real either.

A lot of that's going to take place, but to your point, there is some fairy tale belief that parley's hit all the time. And when you hit one, like once every three weeks, you think yourself, yeah, that's why I do it.

Got him. I'm a genius. And then all the other times, you're always just one away. Seems like you're always just one catch maybe away, one yard away sometimes. Maybe just one,

one leg for 250,000 people to all hit a same game parlay. That would have been legendary. Do you remember when that was AQ Shipley? I do not. Well, we had that for a Super Bowl. It was our last public parlay that we put out, actually. So many people. What was the miss? Patrick Mahomes over 225 yards passing or something. And what do you throw it for 223?

215 or something. He had like 150 in the first half, too. Yeah, that one we are not worried about. Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown in the first quarter. That one was over. I think Mahomes had scored touchdown two maybe? McCaffrey, I think. Yeah, somebody else. We had a couple touchdowns and then Mahomes for the thing. It was, plus, I forget what the bet was, but 250,000 people riding with us.

Definitely the biggest bet, group bet of all the time. And we hit the first two in like the first quarter. And it was like, now we just need Pat to just be a quarterback in the NFL and win a Super Bowl. And somehow it didn't hit. It's like, that's when I started worrying. That's how, it was

the Chief Seagals, and it was because Tony, remember Tony had that It was like the last drive. Here we go. Yeah, we didn't have enough to get yards. And then Tony brought the ball back all the way to like the 15. Yeah, there's a huge pot. That's exactly.

It was a heartbreaker. And then they run corn dog through the whole thing. Yeah. So his return basically eliminated us from winning it. And we were watching live. Remember we was streaming it live? Yes. And then immediately upon it not hitting,

when you're in a give-out public parlay game, man, people get really mad that they put their money on your parlay, even if you were that close and it should have hit. So we got a lot of it. 200 and some thousand people on the bet. I don't know, maybe 100,000 will let us know that we're the worst humans are. It's a lot of fun.

So that's why whenever Tony starts saying, this is a good thing, we've got to tell you, it's not, and we're not telling you to do anything. Joining us now is a man who loves giving out picks, though. He's seeing a board, actually. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Ryder Cup winner.

He's a father of 10. Happy holidays to all of them. AJ Hawke. Yeah, Hawk, girl. Merry Christmas. Yes, Merry Christmas. Are you guys your backped on your Phillip River, situation, even though I was very positive yesterday.

I guess you were, too. You were positive, but some guys in there are backpedaling? Thank you, AJ, for helping me see the light. I appreciate your positive. I needed it. So were you back? DB's very good backpedalers. Now, I watched a video of Coach Sabin

saying that the backpedal is the least important part of being a corner. Yeah, I saw that too. I didn't see that. Yeah, I was in a too. He was talking about, he had a corner that... Like quarter turn. Quarter turn a whole time. He said, so I used to think that the back pedal was the important part. I used to coach it. And I had a guy that just only could do the quarter turn and he was the best, he worked out, all right? So let's not just

automatically rule people out basically because they can't do it. I think that was kind of the message. And oh yeah, on that note, congratulations, Coach Saban officially going into the Hall of Fame last night. Obviously, it's been an absolute honor to get to know him, become friends with him, and listen to him, speak, and learn about how he views different things, situations. It's very obvious why he is a goat. It is very obvious that he has that, you know, they talk about Momba mentality or how MJ is or how these people that are at the top and how they activate. He has all of that, but also he's evolved because he's had to teach others in his humility. It's a very fast, he's a fascinating individual. He is so incredibly

supremely talented at what he does, while also still remaining relatable somehow, and also having interests of things that other people find relatable. All these athletes get in these super crazy diets and they almost become these like superhero robots where you can't even touch him. Tiger Woods becomes just like machine, basically. Kobe Bryant, rest in peace, known being machine. Michael Jordan this entire thing. Nick Saban is like a guy you can go talk to and he is going to be able

to give advice and information to everybody somehow. He is special. This guy's special. Congratulations to him going into Hall of Fame. It was in Las Vegas yesterday. I was going to try my best to get out there. That's a long-ass flight because it wasn't only Coach Saban, former teammate of mine as well. Steve Slayton goes in, West Virginia. He goes in

to the Hall of Fame. I like seeing Steve Slayton get his flowers because of how special he was at West Virginia. And that came from a guy that played at Yukon at the same exact time as us in the Big East. And this dude was supposed to go to Maryland. Maryland, he committed to Maryland. He was out of Philadelphia area. He was supposed to go to Maryland. They pull the scholarship from him. West Virginia, Rich Rodriguez, basically just gets in there like a week beforehand and says, hey, we'll give you the ball. We'll give you the ball. He comes in, obviously highly touted. This guy's special. He's going to be good. One of the chillest, coolest dudes of all time.

got along with everybody, and whenever he started running, he was unstoppable. And he had vision, he had cutback, he had explosion, and he was the dog. I mean, workouts, everything. He was Steve Slayton and Pat White, I got to ride their coattails to a lot of very cool moments. And obviously, we won a bunch of games. We didn't win the biggest game in college football, but we did win a bunch of games. We changed the trajectory of West Virginia. And I keep saying we, it was really they, those two, actually those three right there,

as Owen Schmidt kind of pound somebody. And then we had Darius Renaud and wide receiver as well. And we had studs on the defense. And we had some offense alignment that ended up going to the NFL. But it's like we had a great team. It was an honor to be a part of. And Steve Slate and Pat White were the ones that put the West Virginia Mountaineers onto the current map that they're on.

They would play. What's the video game you guys would play? NCAA 2K-15. Okay, so, but it would have been earlier than 15 for sure. Yeah, because I graduated high school in 2005. 0-7 then. Yeah, so probably the 0-7 one. Pat and Steve were unstoppable in NCAA, 2K, or whatever.

So people talk about that as something like that's fun for gamers. It also made the West Virginia logo and brand very, very, very, very, very popular. Then we were playing on Thursday night football on ESPN, the West Virginia University scenes. We probably played Yukon on one of those games. We were like the Thursday night team. That was before the NFL was playing. So we had us on the, we had plaques on the wall in our facility

that was like most watched Thursday night game ever with this amount of people watching. most watched Thursday night game ever. And obviously that might not sound like something to a team that's big in the SEC or big in the Big Ten or the Notre Dame squad that's had their own TV network since the beginning of time, which is such an advantage.

But for like West Virginia, us being crowned as like the must watch teams in the middle of the week whenever people had nothing else to do was huge for our program. And a lot of the reason why people were electrified by our team is because that dude would be running wide ass open down the field multiple times

alongside Pat White and an offense that was electric. So I'm happy he's getting his flowers. I'm hoping that he's getting a chance to really take it all in. He's super humble dude. I don't really like to do the whole song and dance of being celebrated. So I'm happy he was there last night. I'm happy he got a chance to be celebrated. And congrats to him both. But Yukon, we saw you on a couple Thursday nights. You saw Steve a couple times, I would say as well. Yeah, Steve was special. Obviously, Pat White was special. But they kind of revolutionized and changed college football like that offense. Obviously, the video game was one thing, but to see that, it was almost as different

as seeing like a triple option, but it was just two guys. And sometimes, like you said, Owen Schmidt back there, who was athletic to. So when he got the ball in space, he was also a problem. But at that point, you know, Big East was, you know, we had some good things at Rutgers. We were doing well. Cincinnati was doing well with Brian Kelly there, South Florida. Everybody kind of helped run. Shady was at pitch. Shady was at pick. Yeah, we had guys all over the place, but you guys were definitely at the top. And even, you know, you always root on your conference when at that point, You go to a big BCS game, and it's like, all right, go and kick Georgia's or whoever's ass, and let me know it's not just, it's not sweet out here.

So shout out to Slate and shout out to Pat White. Like, they were a special, special group. So glad he'd get in his flowers. Yeah, shout to them, man. Thank you. I had a lot of fun because you guys. A lot for too much fun, probably. You guys saw it, and we're a part of some of it, so you might be partially to blame.

But on that note, thank you guys. And congrats to both those guys going into the Hall of Fame and everybody else that won into the Hall of Fame. Joining us now as a guy that'll go into all the Hall of Fame. Probably a broadcasting one or two. And I'll tell you what, maybe even a statistical one as well. Maybe. Because he's not scared to use the numbers while also using the brain capacity of a man

who is a multiple-time defensive player of the year. A man who comes from a family that has just only created stallions, his son being one of them. Last week or the week before, his boy was just roaming wild on a beach while he continued to talk ball to us. This guy is a legend. Ladies and gentlemen, long hair-having, handsome face, 6-foot-10, Monster of a man, J.J. Watt, joins us.

Yay! How you doing, Judge? I'm great. I'm happy to be here. So excited. Wednesday, beautiful day. Lots to discuss. Just fantastic. You got a backwards cap on. Something's in your cup. Don't know what.

Excited to find out. Two rings. One gold watch. What a life. So, first of all. I know. Hair tie in a ring. Rubber ring. Rubber ring. Because Jimmy Fallon did that shit to his

Yeah, almost took his finger off. Yeah, whatever. They said Jimmy Fallon got all boozed up. This is what the report was. I'm not saying this is what happened. I would like that to be very clear. This is how I have learned of the story. That happened.

Okay. Edge of his Marvel Kitchen Island. He took a fall and it almost ripped his finger up. Yeah, and I watched Jimmy Fallon, and I remember his fingers just being different. Yeah, a massive cast on for a while. And they came back and I think it was ugly. And it was like, all right, so if I ever get married, not doing that. There's no way.

So I got that bad boy. And then hair time for my daughter. Thanks. you feel great about it okay i love having my daughter with me every single moment in my life as i work hard for my family knowing that i can just do this right here oh and then my daughter and my wife right there on my heart at all times and then you let this thing up and it's like boom there's a tattoo how close to oh that's of my daughter too you know for birthday so anytime i'm feeling alone in this in this long long long life that i'm living right a whole life i just think

about my daughter and my wife so anything you say oh there's a team you bought trying to turn into a profit on your forehead. Is that what you want me to say, buddy? Is that what you want me to start point out on that note? I don't know what happened here. I got like a spot of oil or something there. Who is that? Is that Espagnol or Bernley? Espanio or Bernley? Espagnol, seor. Ponc's team. Hey, we talked to Ponch the other day. English, okay, it's tough to understand a little bit of it, most of it, but he loves America. Yeah. And he is a great. I didn't even know who you were talking about because of all you pronounced that name. His name's Ponch, Coach Ponch.

He was talking about the U.S. men's national team, former Espaniel player. You know, he played for your program before you bought that. Yeah, I know I'm well aware. I didn't know there's an N in there. I was unaware of the N. Let's go his name.

Yeah, his friends call him Ponch. Yeah, and to be clear, he might have been correcting us and we couldn't understand what he was saying. No, no. But know that we are big Espaniel fans because Espaniole created Ponch. Ponch is going to coach

the U.S. National Team. team to a World Cup champion. Yeah. Yep. Trophy. Super trophy. What is the trophy called, Gumpsch? The World Cup.

Of course. It's not even a cup. Of course. Of course. That's the best point yet. Well, the world's sitting inside of a cup, I think, on the trophy. So do we pick up the world then? I thought it was hands holding the world.

Yeah, it's not a cup. Actually, this is one of your smartest things I've ever heard you say, Connor. Let's dive into this. If we get a photograph. Yeah, and there has to be a name to this thing. There has to be a name to this. The balloon door. No, that's...

The Golden Glove is what they should call it. Well, the Golden Globes are actually out. I can't drink out of that. Are cups, different languages, different things? I thought a cup had to be able to be drank. Is there like a tiny bowl on top of it? It could be sitting in it just permanently. Could be a cup.

They're not calling the trophy a cup. It's the World Cup, comma, trophy. What? So it doesn't even have a title? But then what does the cup mean? Like, the Stanley Cup is a cup. Yes. She called the Pontchitia.

That's what I'm saying. That's what we're talking about with this guy who played for Español and kind of cut his teeth in Español. Such a cool trophy, though. I mean, that is a bad ass trophy. Yeah, it's very. How much is this one worth? Multiple millions, I think.

No, that's Club World Cup. This is international. No, how much is that trophy worth? Oh, great question. I think they spend a couple million. It says 20 million on the internet. Damn. That's ridiculous.

It's solid 18-carat gold. Yeah. From my recollection, because remember, we always get into, like, what's the best trophy in sports? That always happens in the off-season. And we talk about Lord Stanley. We talk about the Bjorn and the Indy 500. Obviously, Lombardi gets talked about

because it's the biggest league on earth. And then the soccer people all come in, and they're like, this isn't even a question. This is the best trophy there is. It's like, I don't know. Stanley Cup could kind of just sit right on top of that thing. 20 million inside of the thing, like one of those little toys that's got.

Oh, yeah. the Russian dolls. Yeah, like the Russian dolls. But I understand when the U.S. gets this, we will like it. Hasn't really been a reality. The original trophy used to be an actual cup. I just looked up.

And then who? Somebody got a hold of it. Yeah. You know, some bureaucrats got involved in 1974. They said, we need to redo this. And then they turned it into that one. I don't like that. Let's talk about football.

We have, and I think the reason why you came in in the jolly mood that you were in, is because we signed 44-year-old quarterback Philip Rivers. Now, we saw some footage yesterday of Philip Rivers playing for the Indianapolis Colts, and you were playing for the Houston Texans in that particular footage. I saw that. Yeah, that was quite a real... I was shocked myself.

Shocked myself. Me too. You're on the screen, and I was like, JJ's not on that team. He had to have been on the Arizona Cardinals by this time. Nope, you were still on the Houston Texans when Phil Rivers was spinning it for the Indianapolis Colts. I'd like to remind everybody, Phil Rivers led the Colts to the playoffs. He was the best quarterback that we had had post-Andrew luck,

and then obviously Danny Dimes has surpassed him. His high school team that he coached with his son Gunner ran the same exact offense. That's J.J. Watts piece of information to it. So, JJ, it sounded like what you were saying, and I might be wrong here, because I don't know if this is how you can feel about this Indianapolis Colts team. I feel like you like the signing. I feel like you like the Phillip Rivers is the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis football Colts. Is that accurate or what?

I mean, I'm a football fan. This is awesome as long as everything goes smoothly and there's no injuries or anything that come out of it. I mean, from a pure content standpoint, from a pure enjoyment entertainment standpoint, this is phenomenal. And now, thank you for pointing out my Big J. journalism here. Thank you. The fact that, I mean, it literally basically seems like it came down to the fact that they need a quarterback to play this Sunday because it appears that Riley Leonard may be hurt and not able to go. So they need somebody that knows the offense and can execute it.

And he is literally the person that knows the offense best. And we're going to find out if he can execute it. He just said it himself in his press conference. He's like, the only way you know is when you walk through that door. So let's see. And I think that's such an awesome mindset and mentality. Now, if you're sitting there as is the Colts and you're trying to capitalize on a season, and that started 7-1 and had unbelievably high hopes.

Is this where you wanted to be at this moment? No. But if everything was going awry anyway, this has got to be the hands-down most fun you could have at this point. I'm about sick of the most fun thing, okay? Yeah, content, entertain. Yeah, you hear this like, is this W-W-E this guy? What do you think Chris Ballard's doing?

Hey, we need a good tweet. We need a good meme. We need to draw a little bit of juice to this cold steam. Is that what you think is happening here? It's a lot. No, I think they legitimately believe that this is their best chance to win this weekend. I don't deny that, that that's what they believe this is right now. I'm just saying for the rest of us out here in the world, this is fun.

Yeah, so you keep saying they, and we're talking about you. Okay, you've caught a lot of the Colts games this year. You're just off the Jags game. That was tough. That was tough for us. All I'm saying, there are different positions. If I went out there today and I, like, because this isn't something he's been preparing for all year. Like, like, ah, maybe I will, maybe I won't.

Dude's been out for five years. And this just happened this weekend. Like, this just happened on Sunday. Both guys went down. So he has known maybe for three days that he might play football for the first time in five plus years. So, like, if you asked me today, and I train very regularly. But if I had to go over to the Texans facility and, like, put on my uniform, I, there's a bunch of different muscles that could go out at any moment at that, just because I haven't fully prepared. Now you take me two or three more years

down the road. I got no idea what's going to happen. Thank God, quarterbacks can just stay in the pocket and sling it. I believe his arm is probably great, but what's it going to be like in that pocket against the Seahawks defense just short sharks circling, circling. I don't know if you like what's going to happen. It sounds like you think there's potential problems ahead. And there's a lot of those. Okay. And I've had to. This could be awesome. Yes. Jay could. They're going to be all the meter away. Yeah, Jay.

What's best case scenario, Jay? What do you think best case scenario is maybe on the flip side? You can, you know, what's the worst case scenario as well? To figure that up? Best case scenario is Philip Rivers is so damn smart that he drove that van from wherever he lives up to Indianapolis for the trial with the TV screen in the back. And he was studying Mike McDonald's film and Seahawks film the entire drive. He got there and he talked to Shane Steichen and he said, hey, this is how we're going to attack them.

I know exactly where their blitzes are coming from. I know exactly what stunts they're running. Don't worry about my age or my speed because I'm not going to get hit. The ball's going to be out of my hand before they even know what they're running on their own defense. I'm going to slice them and dice them. Get the ball in Pittman's hands. I'm going to chuck that ball up to Alec Pierce. Oh, I got this weapon, Tyler Warren.

Yeah, let me get it to him. Oh, I haven't even mentioned the number one rusher in the NFL yet. Jonathan Taylor, let me hand it to him a few times. I won't get hit when I hand it to him. Boom, boom. I got 350 yards. Jonathan Taylor has 150 yards. We got five touchdowns win.

Oh! Wow. Yes. Take me there. Oh, you want the worst case? No. No.

Do you know. Got about that vein. The other one. No, don't. What's the other side? We got, we're, you know,

like political. Yeah, keep it football-wise, but don't, you know, because that fan crashing on the drive up. Yeah, right.

That would be the worst case scenario. We're talking football-wise or what would be the worst-case scenario, please. I mean, I mean, I mean, we, football-wise,

it means, it just Daniel-Jone's play happens again. No, we don't need that. But to both legs. See, Connor led the show saying there's a chance that one hit, both knees, both shoulders. You know, at 44 years old, he's five years removed.

He said there's a kid. He gets sought in half. And Philip Rivers knows that. Oh, yeah. He's still around the pads popping. He might wear a guardian cap. He's the best he's looking at five years. He needs to.

He needs to. He just had another kid. He's got a grand baby. Wear a guardian cap. Protect that brain. He better, bro. There's going to be a lot. lot of you know there needs to be some vagus odds will he have a neoprene sleeve

anywhere on his body will there be neoprene copper foot his he's gonna use a roll of tape each ankle will have a roll of tape I assume there will be copper fit here here the gloves yeah the neck the brett farvlin yeah the fingerless gloves he uses I saw there's at CVS the other day almost pulled the trigger just because it was the whole day somebody gets getting this for but maybe do that by the way but whole roll of tape each I mean, he has a cast on both of his feet whenever he goes out there. That's what I realized five years ago when he was playing for us. Like, he comes out there.

There's not even a thought of those things, any of this. So then whenever he starts moving, that's, he's a ski, he's skiing. Okay, he is, we are going straight this way. So there's potential, a lot of awkward falls. I'm thinking he should put that guardian cap on. I think so. He's tall, too. There's a chance he's setting a precedent here.

If he goes out there and balls out, do you know how many retired guys? to their significant other. Like, man, I've always thought I could, but I wasn't sure. He just did it. I'm going back. I'm going back. Here's Phil Rivers quote. He had a press conference today.

I'm reading this for the first time. Shout at the Fox 59. I'm not here to save the year or be a hero by this. Yes, you are. We got a stink of running crap out of the football and play deep. Oh, geez. That's all a ploy. Yeah, right.

That's Phil Rivers. Phil Rivers know him and Shane said we're throwing this thing 40 times. Yeah. So he's letting Seattle know. we're going to run this ball. That's what a daggone ball. And then McDonald's like, he wouldn't tell us what they're going to do, right?

And then Phil Rivers is going to be sitting at six yards. Lift that leg up. That's right. And then he's 45 times. Oh, boy. That extra yard. I'm getting more worried as we're talking about. Worried.

Did you hear what Jade shut? I was living in that world. We can live in that world. That is possible. Jade, you didn't just make that up. That is an actual thing that could happen, what you just said. I mean, you guys have like the, I mean, this is all, we'll talk real now. Like Daniel Jones ran that offense in a way where Shane Steichen dialed everything up

and it was a progression offense where Daniel Jones came out of the huddle, knew where the progressions were, one, two, three, and where the ball had to go. And if one was covered, he moved to two. Like, it is set up for somebody to step in. And as long as they know and understand the concepts and can deliver the football, you can do it relatively safely back there. Now, did it operate a ton better when Daniel Jones could move and threaten the defense with his legs

and have the RPO game? Absolutely. But it is not unrealistic for somebody to stand back there and deliver it. They have a good offensive line. They have not been good the last month. It's just a fact. But they can dial it up and they have, just get it in your playmaker's hands.

Give it to Jonathan Taylor. Get it to Tyler Warren on these little tight-end screens or these little flat routes. get it to Pittman at the sticks, downs at the sticks, and then toss it deep to lock up and toss it deep to Pierce. We're winning football games. And right now, I want to let you know

because this has happened, maybe not so much recently, but Colts fans do travel. I mean, that is something that Colts fans are done for. Maybe we go take over Seattle Seahawks Stadium. You know, maybe the Colts just going to take over. Maybe. They're not selling their tickets for their Super Bowl contending team.

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Earth and the moon. Maybe Colts fans should think about trying to go travel up there and make sure it's a little bit more copacetic for Philip Rivers' return. Make sure it's quiet in there when he's on the field because I have a funny feeling that Seattle Seahawks fans are going to try to be mean to Philip Rivers.

He wants that. You think he doesn't First drive of Philip Rivers tenure on Sunday. How many yards does it gain and how many points does it gain? First place, play action. Does it get points? Does his first drive get points? Absolutely not. Seven.

I thought you were stopping it absolutely there and he finished it off with a knock. I can say, I'm worried about what we're going to experience. Go deep. First play. So excited. Look at he's taking a knee. Look how nimble he looks. We're not, listen.

Look at him. Boom. Put your other leg up, please. Yep, no problem. flexible still. He was just, he was on his other knee before this video at the beginning of us. He was on. Shout to James Boyd.

We appreciate the coverage, uh, local coverage of the Indianapolis Colts on to beat. Also morning show host here in town. I think they wake up at like 3 a.m. to do a morning sports show here in Indianapolis. I love the grind. I appreciate the hell out of him. James gets a lot of stuff. It talks a lot about the cold.

But look, he's on the opposite knee there. Yeah, but watch his hip, like that toe drags on the ground. That toe drags on the ground. He's warming up purpose. That was on purpose. No braces. body feels good no tape and also he doesn't look like a fat ass like everybody was kind of saying he doesn't look like a fat ass everybody was kind of saying that Phil rivers he's been retired for five

years we've been watching him coach football and eat pizza he's a fat ass he's not a fat ass Phil Rivers said I don't care what my weight is I'm never be able to run away from anybody anyway that's a real answer that's what he actually said daggummit so I mean this is a good look at Phil Rivers I've got to ask some, I got to ask some honest questions here. If you're another quarterback in that room, or you're one of those two guys warming up next to him, how are you not looking at yourself like,

man? First ballot Hall of Famer is here? Yeah, I need to start learning from this guy. I couldn't even get a shot. I mean, where's Andrew Luck at? He's letting, he's letting Indy down again. Where's Andrew Luck at? That's what I want to know.

I'm trying to save Stanford right. Guess what? Season's over. All right, let's talk about we saw Andrew Luck giving a sideline interview during a game and he had to step away

because there was a pick six ball, ball, ball, ball, go JD, go JD. And he comes back I just love, I'm so happy for those guys. How do you feel about the Herbert situation

with Laura? Obviously, we're all fans of Laura Rutledge. We appreciate the coverage. We understand that doing TV involves a lot of moments of asking for people's time in which they don't necessarily

want to give it. It is kind of a part of the gig on the opposite end of it, especially for the quarterback from the winning team. How do you feel about that whole interaction and how do you feel about like where we are right now between media and players? I think this is the first time that we've seen any kind of situation at all.

I mean, players being very open right before games, immediately right after half, like it feels like there's been more access, more transparency, more combos, which is what everybody wants. This feels like the first one in a long time. What are your thoughts on it? I agree with you. There is significantly more than ever has been, obviously with the pregame hits and in the pads interviews and all these things. I think a lot of times, I think there are more times that that may happen that you may not see just because generally

you don't throw down to that interview until it's secured and ready to roll. But I do think that when you're the face of a franchise, you're getting paid an unbelievable amount of money. There is that expectation of that. Now, can it be handled a lot differently in situations where the PR team, And, like, there's generally a way that things go after the game, where you know how that's going to go.

So it is unfortunate just kind of how it all went down and how it looks. I think I asked Evan Washburn, our sideline reporter, who I think does a fantastic job, his take. And it was, we just talked through it all. And I think I understand both sides of this situation here, but I do think at the end of the day, like, you have to, we're, it's an entertainment business. We make so much money because we are in entertainment. and, like, you do the interview, I do think. And he did. He ended up doing the interview.

We don't want to be, like, people that are out of touch with being players. And me saying that with you two on the screen, saying I'm a player is absurd. But, like, I never want to say something in here that players in the locker room will say, this dude forgets what he was like. This guy, you know, because that's, like, the worst thing that can be said about somebody that I think that gets on TV. But I think even everybody kind of understands, like, starting quarterback, face of the franchise. And you say, like, I forget the way you described, but it's almost like a responsibility.

Like I think it's like a game day responsibility now at this stage of it all I don't know if it's like actually written into the contract So I didn't necessarily love the optics of it But I also didn't appreciate that Herbert probably in a lot of pain For sure Played not great yeah even whenever they win He didn't even smile one time I think he was pretty miserable that entire time

So it's like do we judge Justin Herbert completely off of one situation? I don't think so because a lot of people calling them like bad It's like I don't think I don't think Herbert has proven to be that guy at all his teammates say they love him and everything like that. But I do think that situation wasn't good for Herbert. Yeah. I don't think it was a win though. Isn't it different? Where if it's a loss and you duck the media, I think that's one thing where that's a responsibility. If you lose and you're the face of a franchise,

I think you should at least have to, you should speak to him. But after a win, I feel like it's a little different. Justin Herbert just, he's not about him. He's not about on field after a loss. They wouldn't, but I'm saying when guys duck them from the locker room and they leave early, I think that's a responsibility that, hey, I can face it in a bad. a bad game or loss that we know it sucks talking the media after so i maybe because i fall asleep so i apologize and i catch it the day after and i don't stick around for afterwards a bunch that's on me hand up who normally gets interviewed on the field after games coach winning coach winning like

MVP right and that kind of normally the thing especially prime time games and they're not one o'clock games not happening but prime time games like Thursday night there's like three people that kind of go up afterwards and it's kind of like just assumed that it's happening for monday night football is it just assumed after the game that this is happening? Like Laura very much. No, it absolutely assumed. Laura was told that he is definitely doing this, right? By multiple people, we would assume, right? As we watch this whole thing, Jake, you're in it a little bit more than me.

That's where the assumptions can get like, like in a normal, yeah, in a, the way things ideally go. The PR person for the team grabs the player and says, ushers them over and says, hey, we've got the Monday night football post game interview here, puts them with the reporter, you say, hey they say hey and then they get the camera sent down to you guys and you're good to go that's generally how these things go that assumption i mean we didn't see all that in this situation so i don't know and it is different if you're just being tapped on the shoulder by somebody like in a post game you're looking for your teammates you're celebrating from your teammates like i will have

his back on that like there are a thousand people on the field there are photographers there are camera guys there are security people there are people from the other team so people tapping down the shoulder, you never know. It's not like he turned around and immediately it was like, oh, this is the Monday night football post game interview, which is why I have to put that caveat because generally it's your team's PR person. That's kind of your point, Todd. Yeah, I kind of thought that he didn't immediately know it was Laura Rutledge,

and he thought it was just maybe someone saying, like, hey, can we get, you know, can we talk to you real quick? Because, like you said, he did end up doing the interview. And I think the other thing, too, is like, not that he's always like this surly prick, but we've seen the way he is with the media kind of doing the coy, like, flipping cameras like he doesn't like dealing with the media he doesn't like doing that you know and he ended up doing it and i also didn't know because it seemed like maybe they have been doing this on monday night but it seemed like they almost panicked in response to that because then lisa salter

had an interview with tony jefferson like immediately after it was almost like hey that didn't exactly go how we wanted wanted to like let's go throw it to this other one and maybe kind of reset here yeah i mean it was a bad look but it is a part of responsibility i think look we don't know what he was dealing with what was in his system as far as to even get to that point to play in the game. Like, it was a lot of shit going on, an addition to him not loving doing the media as well. Defensive play to win the game.

Unbelievable play, you're probably trying to get down there and celebrate with your teammates. Just was a lot going on. Last thing I can remember with a coach and I player was Ben Johnson earlier. You know, it was the halftime. Yeah, with the Didi. So, I mean, it's a lot.

We all know. It's a lot of shit going on while you're in between those lines as soon as the game ends. That's why they give you that cool down period, you know, in the locker room and stuff like that. So bad look, but, you know, everyone to move on from it, hopefully forget about it. As they should. And Laura's a dog.

Yeah, she's not going to get. She's not going to work. Yeah, exactly. She's not going to worry. And we should say, like, dude, the guy had surgery on Monday. Like, that is unreal. Like, I've played with the broken hand before, and I know how he was putting it out there like it was fully normal. Like stiff-arming people taking hits, put it on the ground.

Like, that was, that was impressive. Dude, the whole game you're watching, you're like, hang on, this guy definitely has a broken hand, right? Because he is not acting. animal like he has a broken hand he was putting it in between helmets like that is the exact spot you don't want your hand to be is anywhere near a helmet and there's multiple times where he had his hand on top of a helmet with another helmet potentially coming and I'm sitting at home like no no that's that and then he like slips out at the end or he falls you can tell by the end though it started to hurt whatever it was he had those handoffs with his right hand and then he started

he started taking the bump you started taking the uh the right shoulder bump as opposed to being anywhere on his left hand it's like he was obviously going through a lot of pain but we have to remember yeah we can all get along yeah we can all go along out here and uh i would like to know more about herbert i would but i don't think we ever will no he hates that shit i mean hey good for him yeah and his teammates love it so like good for laura she's stuck with it and got the interview like some people might have turned away and be like well he's not going to do it she she persisted and got the interview and to his credit he wasn't like a super he wasn't a prick he wasn't being super short. He answered her question

sufficiently where when you first saw it's like, oh, he's going to give her one word answers and then get the hell out of here. And he didn't do that either. What do we think? We think most likely outcome, Herbert did not know that was Laura Rutledge immediately afterwards. That's the way I took it when I first saw. He looks down.

Yeah, I'm going to go. Can I and then all of a sudden it's like, I think he's just that guy that always is like, I'm going to go in with my guys. I'm going, I'm going to be with my guys. And he's like, he doesn't care. He doesn't, like, he doesn't think of what it's supposed to be or what he's supposed to do. He's like, I'm celebrating with my guys after him like.

Yeah, he is not acting like a movie character of an NFL quarterback. No. Justin Herbert does not do that at all. That is not how he operates. There are some guys that we see like. Although he looks like it. He certainly looks like it. Handsome, the hair, the whole thing.

So good. He was running this way. He had one of these back across. There were times where his hand looked like Chubb's hand from Happy Gilmore because it wouldn't move while he was running. So it was like just staying straight. Get that thing in the way. maybe. All right, let's talk about some other games that are taking place.

Go ahead, Tom, man. Yeah, Jade, you're on Bill's at Patriots this weekend. Thank God, because I couldn't take any of the other crews from CBS. I'm very excited to listen to you. That was unbelievable. There's no reason for that, James. I'm also very excited for the other crews to get their game. CBS has a great slate, but I'm just

glad that I get to listen to you and Eagle. What do you expect? This is the first division clinching game, I think, of the season for any division. Bill's first Patriots, the Patriots when they get the division if the bills win, they are still in it. I think everybody kind of expects them to be in it no matter what with Josh

Allen, especially with what he's doing. How do you see this game going? And do you actually know what the weather is? Are we going to get a sloppy snow game or what should we expect? I've learned that I know nothing about weather, even if I study the weather. I have no idea. Looking forward to whatever it brings. Sloppy is fun.

We got some sloppiness down there in Colts-Jacksonville this weekend. But this is going to be obviously a great game. I mean, the last one was a fantastic game earlier this year. And we have two bona fide MVP candidates going at it in a division where the bills, I believe it, is they have not been swept by division opponents since 2019 when it was the Patriots that did it then. So this is going to be a great game. Obviously, Josh Allen is Superman. And when he goes into Superman mode and he makes those plays, it is extremely hard to stop him. Now, the Patriots, on the other hand, I'm checking my notes because I literally just did this study about 10 minutes ago.

New England has allowed the fewest plays of 25 yards or more in the entire NFL. They've only allowed 14 of them. And you think of Josh Allen throwing, you think of Josh Allen running and scrambling. That's where he is at his best and also that run game is insane with Cook. So I think it's going to be an awesome game. Vrable has the Patriots playing extremely well. Drake May is playing at an unbelievably high level. This is going to be a phenomenal matchup at home.

for the Patriots with a hat and t-shirt on the line, even though I know Vrable doesn't care about hats and t-shirts, but this is gonna be a good matchup. Very excited, we're on the call. Good for Vrable. Have you done the production meetings and all those things? Not yet, they're Friday. Connor, what questions you got?

You got anything you want to ask of Vrable or Drake May? No, I ask nothing for my Supreme Commander and my quarterback of my team, but I would just like to know what does it feel when you save an entire region of a country? You know, like he legitimately has injected life, Both of them into, you know, New England. So just the feelings and emotions you get when you know you saved millions and millions of people, I'd like to.

So up there in a Revolution region, we got Paul Revere, obviously. Yeah, and Paul, you know, I don't know if you go all the way back to Paul. I think you could go back to, you know, maybe even one of the Wampanoag chiefs that kind of started the natives back there. But I think you could go to Paul, I suppose, George Washington. Sam Adams. Sam Adams, yeah, exactly. No, I don't go to Jee or Jee either. Bill Russell.

yeah Bill Russell there you go Larry you go Billy you go Bobby York I mean those are kind of the guys you could even kind of dip to Donnie Walberg just because He's the first Walberg and Mark Damon and Affleck They're definitely up there with duos

But as far as like Truly bringing the city back Pedro Pedro yeah Tommy Domzy We got to talk about Tomi Tommy and Gras

I guess I've got a recent history That's the thing Boston's got a lot of them up there Revolution Regents go a lot up there But none that have kind of rejuvenated And brought a revival to a sport the way

Drake May and Mike Vrable have Now that I'm thinking about it With the list we just rattled off No way Paul Revere makes that list Yeah well the thing about Paul Revere At the end of the day Like he's still got so much British in him He's got so much English in him

You know He is a Middlesex County You know tried and true just like myself, but again, Paul Revere still, you know, it's kind of like a Columbus situation. Like, did Columbus see the land first, or did the man up top see it, you know? And in this situation, I don't know. Well, yeah, but he found a place.

Then he was lost and then he was found. And boy, there's a lot that happened from then until now. But shout out to Coach Raves and Drake May bringing a place back. Hell yeah. They toss the tea. They're tossing the tea in 2025. Yeah, the H and the C, but never will I have questions for them. The coolest thing, really, is just like, wow, one year for Drake May to have no expectations.

And now for the rest of his career, it will be, hey, you better go win that division, go to that Super Bowl, buddy. He's got Josh Allen over there. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be one of those, like, unbelievable division rivalries forever. And we, as a Patriots fan, you never had that. And the Buffalo Bills thought they had it. Whoa, don't even get me started on the fickle Buffalo Bills fans. Yeah, maybe ask them that, JJ.

What's it like to just take the hearts and souls out of a city that, acts like they won something and never even made it to a Super Bowl. That'd be cool. They still paying to shovel snow in their own stadiums. Okay, hey, listen, that's a Dolphins fan right there. Do you see how quickly that they cleared the hash marks on that game? That was badass. Western New York's special place.

And have you seen the stadium? Have you seen it coming together, a new one? It looks good. It looks very good. I think they have a table outside. I think they have like a... Giant metal table. Like a...

Those bison need to be. Yeah. 80 feet. Spice in Buffalo. Don't expect it to be that. You learn, though. You know what I'm talking about now, don't you? We're all on the same page.

I do. Yeah, this is what happens here. This is what happens when we get on. I mean, it's an educational program every week. Nobody talks about it, journalism, education, information. Duky and education every week. Well, we try to limit the Duky, but every once in a while you've got to point that Duky out. And when I was all away and you're smoking, that song's still going.

I'm trying to run into the Algos. if you could help JJ, go ahead and do it. Just turn it down. Oh, don't worry, I'm pumping the algorithm. Yeah, just mute it. You know, just play it on something else. You just mute it so we can cede it in the alga for the rest of the songs to come in, you know. On that note, it's talking about being on the same page and Duky.

AQ has a question about a dynasty. Yeah, the Chiefs play the Chargers this week. And with a loss, they're all but eliminated from the playoffs pretty much. Why are they so bad and what is going on in Kansas City? First of all, that sweatshirt is just top-notch. I believe about a couple weeks ago, I mean, that piece of merch, is just phenomenal. It's still weighing on mine, Fanatics.

Agree. Sorry, I was mesmerized by the shirt. Sorry, Connor used it as a chance to take a shot at Fanatics. Three weeks, yep. Everyone teams get theirs in two days. Games in three days. Games in three days. Sorry, Jage, go ahead.

I mean, the Texans defense is unbelievable. I mean, obviously, the Chiefs have had their issues this year just in general, but the way that the Texans defense is playing and the way that their Matt Burke has them humming is just, it's incredible. I don't think anybody at all wants to see this Texan's team. And, I mean, the fourth and one decision in this last game was obviously a very interesting one.

You make it, you're a genius, you miss it, what happens, happen. But even more so, the next one, when they went for it on fourth and four on their own 41 with 531 left in all three timeouts, that was just another one where it's like the Texans' offense just had not moved the ball literally at all in the second half. and they gave them a short field two times in a row there. It was just interesting.

And in the past, those are those downs where you're like, the chiefs without question, get this fourth and one here. Or they get this fourth and fourth here, and they figure it out. And all these one-score games this year, they just have not gotten those that they have traditionally gotten for whatever reason it may be. And obviously, they're missing a whole bunch of old linemen and everything,

but just it does seem to be at the current moment that they don't have that magic that they once had. Let's talk about the magic, though, that Houston Texan's defense has. There's some stats from Hembo talking about the greatest Texans defenses in history. This year, they're averaging 16 points per game giving up. All the other great defenses in Houston's history had one man wreaking absolute havoc all over the place. And whenever you look at these years, 2011, 2014, 2015, you can't help but think about Vince Wolfwork, we just talked about. You can't help but think about Brian Cushing.

You can't help but think about literally that you had studs all over the place. Houston is sneakily. Rieb Jackson. D'emico. Sneakily. Sneakily. Sneakily. Demico.

Has been known as like a great defensive organization. I think like that is a very real statement that you can make. Draft Mario, Super Mario, to get to Peyton. Obviously draft JJ. They spend a lot of money on defense always have. This one potentially not only Texans historic, but like league-wide historic, Jage. And on that note, they have that defense.

It's unbelievable. and if CJ can get going, which we all believe he can, the Texans can go on a run and maybe even win the AFC South. And then the Colts just signed a future First Ballot Hall of Famer, so the Colts can win the AFC South for sure. And then there's a team down there in Duvall that you just had eyes on. Go ahead, DeBuy. Yeah, what's your thoughts on?

A lot of people speaking to Dookie. A lot of people were calling Trevor Lawrence Dookie, but he's turned it around as of late, playing some of his best ball, BTJ as well. He's turned around this season. What's your thoughts on specifically that? offense and Trevor Lawrence going forward. Like, could they be a real, a real team to deal with down the stretch?

Yeah, I don't think they get anywhere near the credit that they deserve. I think that just kind of probably because of the way their season is gone and they didn't start out with a crazy hot record and then continue it, but they have found it as of late. First, making some big changes at their by week and then also having some tough conversations after that collapse they had in Houston where they gave up the big fourth quarter lead and lost that one. The thing that I've noticed by far about the Jacksonville Jaguars now having called them twice this year

is that there are really no egos in that building when it comes to let's just figure out what it takes to win football games. We don't care if that means running the ball. We don't care if that means quarterback has a wristband, doesn't have a wristband. We don't care if that means that we drop the most beautiful plays of all time. If they don't work, we're not going to run them. We're going to run whatever's best for our offense, for our players, and that's how we're going to win. And they've done it. And then on the defensive side of the ball, Anthony Campanelli, the defensive coordinator, has done a phenomenal job.

Not only encouraging incredible tackling, they do not give up yards after contact. They tackle really well, and they also have coverage in these takeaways. They're taking the ball away at an unbelievable rate. The very first offensive play of the game for the Colts, they ran an RPO where they thought they had the look they wanted. They got the linebacker to pull up, but what they didn't see was Devin Lloyd was purposefully dropping back into that window. So they gave this, like, false little look and tricked Daniel Jones into an interception. So they're hitting on all cylinders, and they only continue to get better. And Trevor Lawrence, this game played a phenomenal game.

And I think that Brian Thomas Jr. and Jacoby Myers have only had two games together. But you're starting to see what that unlocks in this offense. Yeah, I understand what you're talking about down in Jacksonville being a good thing. And we're just talking about Houston, obviously, being a good thing. We got eyes now on Philip Rivers of practice. Here we go, yes. Anthony Calhoun from Wish TV here at local Indianapolis. Not only is he just talking and, you know,

joshing it up with Shane Stike in a couple days after his 44th birthday, but also play action, drop looks good, and yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think we're, yeah. Yeah. Still got it. Yeah, I think we're, yeah, I think we're A-O-K.

Okay, look at him. Hey, Josh, this is what I'm thinking. I need you go out and just be in like seven yards instead of six. shorts. That'd be a little bit better. Riley Leonard, obviously, getting back to practice today with a knee. Andy Richardson out there, obviously trying to gather some thoughts from Philip Rivers, which I love. Obviously, that was a good sign

from Anthony Richards early on this season. Carly Ursey, obviously, talking to Shane Stuykis, saying, I like his form. I like the way he operates. I like the way he has a leader. What are we thinking here? Carly's actually saying, maybe we get this out quick because Seattle's going to be bringing a lot of pressure. Shane says that's a good goal. We'll go ahead and work on that. So Philip Rivers' balling. Shout to Anthony Calhoun. Shout to Wish TV.

Letting us get eyes. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, every time I see, literally you're giving an answer. It's so funny, Connor. What's so funny is Riley Leonard's standing right there. Go home, Phil. Go home, okay? We got right, let Riley Leonard get a shot, all right? Guys suited and booted right there.

Take the jersey off, Phil. Take it off. I thought the same thing when I saw Riley Leonard there. I was like, I thought Riley Leonard wasn't even going to be practicing. If Riley Leonard's out there. Go home, be a paw. Dan O. said it yesterday on TV, too. Hey, right.

What is your injury? You have to be 10. I'm not even reporting the injury. I get a shot in the start quarterback. Week 15, my rookie year, I'm good. I walked off. I'm good. Nothing.

But, hey, it's something they know that we don't know, but I do love what I'm seen from 17. Looks like the same guy. Dan Orlovsky sent me a minute 30 video here while we've been live. I mean, who knows what that could be. I'm sure he wants to counter something that we've said. Sully tape or Wazowski, perhaps. Maybe he did break down Wazowski.

Did you get to watch that, Mizowski? I did not. I did not. I mean, I saw clips. I didn't under, I saw the clip where it was the double, the interception, and the ball didn't move. I don't understand this. I, I do, is it just the real game happening? Yes, it's 10 minutes behind, but it's obviously Smasowski.

See ya, see ya. 10 minutes behind. Yeah, it was 10 minutes behind. It was the middle of the game and I remembered it was on because they ran like a commercial or something. and I was like, oh, I'm going to go check that out. The game was playing on ESPN. In Monstropolis.

No, the game was playing in real life. Oh, and then I go over to this fun day one, and it's in commercial. And I'm like, what is this game even on? Turns out they were like two commercials behind, I guess. So they were kind of having to track it. They were having to track it all. How do they decide who gets to be Sully and Mike? Well, I think blue and green probably with the charges.

I think you ever scored a touchdown. Look at this route by Mike Wazowski. Call that a corner. Wazowski was on the Eagles, right? And then Sully was on the Chargers. Correct. Green and blue. Yeah.

Green and blue. But I see. So Mike Wosowski catches the ball every play. It's never like a regular player. No, he's hovering. He's supportive, too. He cheered on his teammates a couple times. throws it as well.

You'll see him playing cornerback every once in a while. Solly, he was built on the edge. How about you set an edge? You see, you need to watch all the tape, okay? Consoli was flying. around the corner. He had a couple of sacks as well. It's a new deal, too, right after the game. Yeah, five years, 580 million.

Who got that? The Chargers, they finally ponied up, paid their guy. So he got the guy that's dragging across the ground right there? Yeah, 350 guaranteed highest contract. I mean, one hand is not for the game, so, yeah, I'd say it was worth it. That happened, AJ, or JJ. Now, we've had, we've had some ridiculous segments on this show. We've talked in depth about the basketball.

bathroom and the toilet. This is, this is nearing that territory. What? Excuse me. Are you talking about Was Aski? I don't think we're the target audience here. I don't think it was made for us. Connor was certainly legit, watched the whole thing. I was good, man. I got kids where he switched

to it. Were you on what Justin Herbert was on or what, like, what? Gee, no, I wasn't yelling at any kids. I was just just enjoying what they were putting on the TV for. Yeah. Oh, I mean, because he had a broken hand. I mean, whatever you're taking. Oh, no, I wasn't high. You never know.

I mean, if you were that locked into Wuzhowski and Sully. Hey, I'll tell you what, though. As you can see on those highlights, the boys could ball a little bit. I don't think I expected him to be able to do that. Wazowski had like a Sequin type vibe and also a Jalen vibe. It was an interesting win. Are they guys? Wurzki must have the best peripheral vision of all time because he couldn't see that ball.

That ball was thrown to the back of his head. He's a monster. He's got one big eye. He's got sonar. Look at his silly one here. Look at the Sally. You kidding. me?

There's dragons meat on the ground? Yep. Yeah, he ran a 40. Like he's, yeah, so don't worry about it. Jage, what do you think about Wazowski's team, the Philadelphia Eagles? Good question. Obviously, at the moment, it is not looking great.

I mean, I think Lane Johnson's importance is extremely high. This was one of the craziest plays I've seen. The game in general, it may not have been the most ever, but it certainly felt like the most turnovers I have ever seen in the day. It was just crazy.

It felt like every single possession something wild was happening, which is a blast to watch as somebody who has no skin in the game and doesn't care who wins and loses. It was fun. I'll tell you what, Connor, I didn't think this before, but after watching Wazowski and Soli and then we cut right to this highlight, that's why I said,

what's that? Because the other one looked so much cleaner. Well, I mean, that's the thing too. And realistic, you know, I felt like the other one was just so much nicer whenever you see. This felt like I'm there. You know, like it feels like I'm in. so-fi watching it.

The other one, you know, the actual play, like, that's kind of lame now that I think about it. We need to start watching every game, maybe 10 minutes behind in monstrosity or whatever we were. Yeah, Monstropolis. And also it's like, oh, you wonder why there are so many turnovers? Like, I don't see Wazowski out there. I don't see Sully on the field

in this version. Oh, because I can't detect him. Bingo, yeah. It's like, well, I mean, is that even, like, Wuzowski makes that catch. Yep. Every single time. So, I mean, I don't know. Jay, do you need to have a little bit more respect maybe for Sully William Wuzowski. All right, Jage, we're getting

hell out of here because we have a heart out here in about two minutes. But we would like you to do is kind of give us a two-minute breakdown of the MLS Cup and what the World Cup team, the United States of America is going to look like as we take on Paraguay, Australia, and probably

Turkey and the World Cup is our soccer expert and owner. Thank you, Jage. Floor is yours. I mean, I have no idea why you think that I would know about the MLS Cup or the World Cup. I have two teams in the Premier League and in La Liga that I am most deeply concerned about. I can't say that I have followed along with the MLS Cup.

No, I think it's great. Miami won, right? Messy. You have followed. I mean, I saw the photos. I see it because of Gump. I see it because of Gump. First, we have players going to Afcon, which is the African championship.

So that's always tough because you're going. some of your best players, but it is great. But I follow through Gump. Gump does a really good job with the soccer coverage, especially the MLS coverage, and clearly a big Inter-Miami fan, correct? Yeah, yeah. He's a Concaifap of a pod host.

Obviously, we follow along to keep up with the soccer news. Every once in a while to do a Burnley or Espaniole update, if things are going good. You said you guys are still in the Premier League. Spaniel's in fifth. Spaniel's in fifth. We got Gitafe this weekend. Massive one, Burnley.

We've been going through it a little bit at Burnley. It's been a rough stretch, We've got Fulham on the weekend, so we would really, like, we need a win. We need a win against Ford, Jays. We need one. Yeah, yeah, we are on the hunt for some points. Lights just turned off in my house, not a great moment, but I think it's going to be a great, great game this weekend, and Espaniel is going to continue to roll. I can take 15 more seconds here if you want.

It's a beautiful day outside. I'm looking forward to live in life, and you know what, guys. be a friend tell a friend something nice you love them all the time every day have a great day you might change somebody's life love you pretty good good remix bro yeah oh that remix all day all day all the time never know i was i wasn't prepared for it at all and i thought i was going to find it as i started talking as soon as i said the be a friend tell a friend i was like we're going down the right path and then it just went back to the love it there's no love in there There's no love.

I don't know why I have love. Maybe in your version there is, though. Maybe there is. Love Cockers all. Making it wrong, Gage. Sometimes you want the brain to work and it doesn't work and then it's just blind your damn gears.

Does this happen in the booth every once in a while? You get this upset and Mr. Eagle has to go, Jach, it was a three-word flub. We got more words to say. You ever, no,

this is actually a good question for you because you do a show every single day, which is crazy. Some mornings you wake up and you're like, oh my brain is firing today like you're ready to roll you're hot you're like no no question and then there's mornings you wake up you're a little foggy you might like grab the coffee and instead of pouring coffee into it you pour milk into it you're like dude what am i here today you ever catch one of those on a game day then you're like hang on i got to reset my whole life before i go into this booth or i'm going to talk some crazy shit yeah how do you do it have you

have you had those no we just on every day this unbelievable this guy We just wake up and go, brother. Yeah. There's your way. Let's say I do pour milk into the coffee mug. I'm telling myself immediately I did that on purpose. Let's keep it rolling. Excite to see what comes out here later.

Let's go ahead and go for it. And we're super scripted, you know, every day. So that helps too. So whenever you say like when you said you started with be a friend, tell your friend you're starting down a good path, that's every, I mean, that's every sentence. That's every sentence of every day. So, yeah.

We don't have time to have fog, brother. We don't have time to have the fog. Yeah. Bruce yesterday. crack me up when he had the clip of bruce's struggling over here i was dying laughing me too times two times we all were he's bent over over here hot bat there's not a lot of space i mean there's not a lot of space it's like this much room over here and i just see his ass bent over in front of me hitting the fucking microphone yeah there's a lot

of that there's a lot of he's living he had gator shoes on yesterday look good and clean as gator shoes on yesterday. I mean, it was but we were talking about something that was very real. And I just seen, B.A.'s ass just bouncing back and forth. It was like the top of the hour. You were starting out with something new. It might have been Phil Rivers or something like that. Pretty big news. And then all of a sudden

I just saw this legend's ass over here and I'm like, all right, you good? All right, we keep rolling. And then all of a sudden we dropped it again. Boom. It goes down again. And then he's got to do the whole process. He's awesome. Oh, it's Utah. That's what it was. It was the Utah college thing. Ascent area. And we're back. Yep, you're doing great. Don't worry about it. B.A. He's, he is one of one. I mean, B.A. is one of one. It's great to get his brain on things. So are you, Jage. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Hey, you're still golfing ever or no?

No, I do not get to golf. I thought I was going to golf so much in retirement. It has not happened. So you hate that you don't golf anymore or would wish to golf or have you pushed it to a later time in life? Like, I have come to the realization, golf time is later in life. yes precisely uh pushed it to a later time in life two kids under three and a half years old and a job uh just not the time to be golfing so how many dogs you got that's it i have two and they do not listen to me oh yeah we experienced it every week techs had a pretty good week this week though it sounds like tax hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey j j killed all the squirrels yeah got them all we we took kids The problem.

They used some of AJ's techniques. Nice. Would you boil them or something? What'd you do? That's not my technique. I'm saying he was just took, took them all down. Look at AJ. Look at you.

He said my technique. It's like the old Sebastian Manusculko technique of putting antifreeze on bologna and tossing it out in the backyard. Jeez. What are we doing? I didn't say it. Everybody's quoting everybody. That's why I wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't do anything. All right. Tried? Jage, we appreciate you, man. No, I just thought about it. All right, that's JJ Watt. Yeah, Jay, Judge. Age, you know when he says, I tried the AJ technique, and then you go, yeah,

you're already talking before, I was already talking before he threw me into the equation. So, yeah, it's on me. Oh, so you're like the fun day thing? You're, like, 35 seconds behind the conversation? Because it sounds like you answered immediately after he said the word. Well, did you see him light up? He's like, he started lighting up. I'm like, oh, this dude actually really was killing squirrels all over the place.

And then he knew that look. stepped on him. I stepped on him and then shut him down. He's like, oh, I can't go into it. I do it all the time. I do it all the time, brother. It's tough. It's tough. You got to look in a mirror once in a while I say, you fuck that one up, brother, and just keep him over it. But on the note, I appreciate the fact that Jage, I appreciate that Jage says there's been a game day, I guess, this year where he woke up

and he did not feel smart at all. I do wonder what a psycho like J.J. did in that moment. I'm assuming he found a cold tub. Yeah, I bet you there was. Beat the fuck out of himself. Yeah, my bank's head off the wall for many times. you're not this stupid wake up wake off wake up wake off first you're getting this opportunity it puts you in a big boot oh that would be awesome just watching jj be like no no no no no it's your fucking brain how if my arm's sore i fucking work it out what do i do for my brain

when it's not working yeah he's been good though i'm so pumped that he yeah actually he needs to keep doing what he's doing because he's clearly just living in the moment you know That's Tony Romo, too. Like, Tony Romo very much lives in him. He's firing from the hip. Tony Romo's doing a lot of firing from the hip. And I think sometimes he sounds like he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but I think it's because he is firing from the hip.

So I enjoy the kind of ride with Tony Romo. I've gone full circle with it. I loved it early. Then I was like, I can't do this. And then I'm like, actually, I respect the fact that Tony Romo goes in there and just is fucking living, calling a football game. And I think, uh, Jage has been living in the moment, as opposed to like trying to force.

things and he's trying to enjoy it because I think he does enjoy the game as much he's a he's a good list because they're setting the tone the vibe for the entire game that's commenting they're hanging they're fun yeah yeah when they have fun it it makes it much it makes it fun to watch I think yeah we're watching the game with them you know like hey we're watching the game with you so like you're in our living room so however you kind of you're controlling the vibes which is why terrico terrico is like a vibe terrico's phenomenal I think Al Michaels has always been considered a good vibe yeah I'm gonna need them tomorrow

Why? Yeah, fuck us. It sucks. No, it's NFL. Remember, we'll be playing for games like this, times like this, so we can watch like that as they play like ass. You know, like that is... Not this one.

Not this one. Falcons. Mike Evans is back on. We've had a lot worse, I feel like. We have, but just the way these two teams have been playing, no thanks. No thanks. Titans Browns would have been a gift on Thursday night. I agree.

What was the number on Thanksgiving? 22 million or something? 57. No, no, no. Amazon had like its highest. Last Thursday, 22 million. It was like the biggest standalone Thursday night game they've had that wasn't a holiday. 22.8 million people.

Now you can't compare that to the 57 million or whatever that like a network linear television has because obviously the pipelines that linear television has into every business, every house, every yada, yada, yada. And linear television is still very much prominent, which is an interesting thing because I'm not going to get into it.

I don't want to get into it. When I decided to license show linear, a lot of people thought I was stupid because linear is yesterday. It's like, well, how long is yesterday gonna be today actually? Because we're living in it. So even if it is a 10 year, 20 year transition,

that's still a long fucking time of linear still dominating and still having massive amount of real estate. So like how long is linear still gonna crush? Feels like for the foreseeable future. Now, is it gonna inevitably disappear? Yes, we all can see it, but when does that day completely come?

We don't know, especially with all these numbers that keep coming out for what some of these games games are having, but 22.8 million people having to go to an app to watch a game, like the amount of power. That's what it is. They had to go there, right? The amount of power. Like, that is an actual people mover. And then Amazon just sitting there with 22.8 million people on their platform at that exact time. It's like the amount of, they're already putting ads in. They're already fucking doing the shit. They're already doing the entire thing. It's like that is a huge

case study that the NFL is going to use for Apple, for fucking hair. You don't want 22.8 million people just to be on your app for one thing like wouldn't that be a massive success yes that's what we're all looking for we're trying to get events to drive people to our platform and then all our ancillary shit hopefully holds them on our platform that's kind of the strategy that's why you see these big events on all these streaming platforms that's why you see amazon like we got them on thursday night let's keep them there oh we're going to do music afterwards remember they were doing like a concert series titty boy i saw him by the way dapped up titty boy twice oh okay in a very short period of time so it felt like it was maybe a forced second one.

No, that's normal. Yeah, okay. But it was a quick interaction. He walked in. Holy fuck, Titty boy. That's what I said. We're in a lot of very, you know, the money in the room that we were in is pretty high.

Me and Gumpy not really supposed to be in said room. You know, we don't even have a seat, actually. We're just kind of standing in between two buffet runs, but it was very nice to be where we are. Sushi roller right here. Okay, had some great fried chicken and popcorn over here. had a little bit more, I mean, it was a phenomenal set. No seats, everybody was in there already.

We got in there late. So we're just kind of eating awkwardly in front of everybody, talking to people that are doing our thing. Just ordered a Jack and Diet. Thank you for that. We're at the Atlanta Hawks game. And in this door, say about 100 people in here, 70 people in here. In this door, holy fuck, titty boy.

Me and Gumpy both hit each other like this. Fucking titty boys here. He gets within your shot, and I make sure he knows that I know that he's there. holy fuck titty boy's here and he goes pat and I go holy fuck titty boy knows who I am then he walks over quick tap up

he has some meetings or whatever I said I want to let you know man I'm different got me through like about two years of good times so I want to let you know I appreciate your brain and he said he watches the program we need to have Titty boy on this show we need to have him on the show ASAP maybe through the NBA season

oh yeah you hope too Hoover yeah he's still doing that most expensiveist do you ever see that show he did it was awesome He was smoking like gold weed while he was doing it. That was crazy. That was crazy what was going on. But yes, we need him to me. Because I think he owned, I don't want to give away business.

I think he's part of the NBA. I think he. When we went to that Hawks game for whatever Thursday night football game you were doing there, all their merch, he designed or like was a big part of like the Peach Street stuff that they were selling. Like it was, you know, like it was awesome. Yeah. I don't know how I got to see in two chains right there. But boy.

Titty boy you need to know we appreciate you around here buddy oh yeah saw a lot of stars at that game saw a lot of stars that game when two chains walked in there he had 10 of them on by the way wasn't it who's it 10 chains i think he got on yeah at least seven right had the sickest supreme uh like fur kind of coat it was unbelievable yeah hair looks so cool coming out the back had a little sunglasses on i mean he looked fucking awesome uh ben shelton tennis player yeah big sum bitch with trinity yeah so i met them he is he is big stood up like six seven is me yeah so somebody from the hawks because we know uh not i think he's like six four yeah six four six four six to left you yes dog 23 years old thinking of john isner so he walks

in uh somebody with the hawks it might have been mr cunin mr cunin uh steve coon and one of the owners of the hawks we know him uh he's one invited us into this room he comes up behind me and he goes do you like tennis you do now ben shelton's walking up here and i actually knew who that was because he's young kid right and i immediately thought to myself oh i think he's in like a relationship And I turn around, Ben, Trinity Rodman, right here, like within two feet. I go, I stand up. I'm like, what's up, dude, Trinity? How are you doing?

Very nice to see you. Obviously, I hope my daughter ends up playing on the U.S. national team. You are so awesome, so cool. I like the way you guys kind of shot your shot at each other, and you guys find a loving a hopeless place. And I check Ben real quick. I'm like, how you doing, man? He's great, knows the program.

So I immediately go into shit talk. Which sport would I do best against you? Ping pong? Is ping pong the one that I could get you? He's like, I'm pretty good ping pong. I'd assume. I'd say probably nothing. Nothing.

Don't do any kind of racquet games. I told him. I told him I won 18. I want 18, though. Like, if we're playing 21, I want 18 points. And he said, what? So I'm going to do 10 field goals and you're going to give me six of them and I have to make seven?

And I'm like, interesting. Then you look at how athletic he is. I started watching highlights of this motherfucker. He could kick a field goal. He can play soccer. This guy is unbelievable. And he is big. And he is a dog.

Immediate shit talk to me. As soon as he started talking to me, I'm like, yes, love this guy. And also Trinity, shit talk as well. I'm like, yes. I love what the next generation of athletes is like. And, yeah, he's a beast. I think we got one. I think we got one in Ben for the future and Trinity as well.

I think we got, it was cool to meet him. That place was loaded with people, is what I'm saying. And what's that? Oh, no, nothing. What are you? What are you? There was a face. We certainly got one, but.

Just the highlight we chose there. But, no, I love showing. I'm a big fan. Was it not a good highlight? No, it was just him played Yonick Center, who him and Al Carras are kind of, you know, like Ben Shelton's unbelievable, but those guys are. No, Ben Shelton's on his way.

I agree. They're both younger. If we have any Americans who are going to win a Grand Slam, he is, he is it, but those guys are really fucking good. Yeah, and Ben's working his ass off. I know he is. I know he is. I want to see it.

And I saw him throw. They were throwing tennis balls, right? Was it tennis balls, Gump, do you remember? I think that, because it was him, there was like five. tennis players that came out. Five, big names. Yeah, they were just chucking, was it tennis balls or shirts into the crowd? Naomi. There's like ten of them they brought out.

The Saga? She was one. She came out. Ben Shulton came out. Who's some others? Jack Sock? No. Cocoa Golf? Andre Agonoff? Yeah. No, now that he's, maybe it isn't. Nick? Yeah, yeah, him. Sabelanka. Sabalanka. Yeah. Sabalank was there. Nick was there. Nick was there?

Really? Okay. Oh, okay. He was there. Was there a bigger bet in town, obviously? I don't know. I don't know if it was tennis night. And then it was also Black Fraternity and Sorority Night. At halftime, there was a full step show that took place. Oh, yeah.

I would like to say, I think the Q's won. They had the most energy, and they were certainly the loudest. And the cues in the crowd, we were sitting right next to a group. Definitely the most pumped whenever they hit the, what's this? This is the group that was there. That guy on the right. That is Nick, right? Yeah.

Yeah, so that was the group. That was the group that was there. Ben Shulton's on a far left. How tall is Sabalanker? Sabalanka. She's tall. I think she's six feet, yeah. Jeez. But I'm saying it was a who's who there.

And that's kind of how the Hawks operate. It's like our team, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our team's going to be good. Where you sit? Well, you can sit in this hangout area. You can sit in this hangout area. We've got a buffet over here. We've got a hangout area over here.

I think they can get 17,000 in there, but it's a lot of open spaces. And it's always like a who's who of people. Just coming. Anybody that's in town just comes through games. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Hawks. Thank you to Hawks for Hospital.

Oh, yeah. Food is pretty good, too. Sushi roller right there? Not bad. I gave it Domorogato. It was shit. It was great. Oh, that was Mercedes.

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is here. Congratulations on a U. ball time. Thank you, man. It's beautiful sitting here. Stogey's right there. Beautiful team, bone and butts, just dominating or what? Yeah, they're putting bones in butt. Stop that. Man. Bone in butts. Bone in butts.

You should make t-shirts, guys. Don't make me say you guys. I don't want to do it. I don't want to get this canceled. Let me stop saying that name. Okay, well, D-block is the name of the now. Okay, he put that right there at the end, hashtag D block. But try to get in front of it. Yeah, the former team, Bone and Butts is with their original name. They lost the first game out the gates here to me and Foxy. There were certainly some situations that arose in between

the next game where I was potentially asking for maybe an exhibition game as opposed to a contender game because me and Foxy for the last three months haven't been able to really practice or work on anything. Every single game has been a thing against every person that's played this game for the last three months every single day. Fighting two. So I just wanted to work, and we didn't have as many teams around. People got out of here whenever we started playing. So there was only a certain amount of people there that actually

play U-Ball. So I didn't want to just, all right, we're just going to give you another opportunity, another opportunity. Like, hey, this is a good time maybe work on some stuff. You know, for us to maybe change up our game. Change up my shot, maybe, which I'm in the middle of a swing change. You know, that type of stuff. And U-Bull said, or D-Butt said, that's not U-Ball, puts his hoodie on, jacket,

acts like he's going to leave. He goes, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. That's not what you ball is. Exhibition. I thought you were fighting champs or whatever. It's like we fought for three months every single person multiple times. Just trying to do a little something, maybe get better at the game. You know, because I do enjoy the game, but, you know, we're kind of pigeonholed into being the champs all the time. We don't get to have as much fun as everybody else, you know. Boo.

Yeah, losing is much more fun. Well, at least you can experiment stuff because you get your ass beat one way. You can try something else. For us, I don't even think we're anywhere near our peak. I think we haven't even got a chance to really practice. So I just wanted one of those. in bone and butts classic just saying nope not doing that and i want to play i want to get a little exercise in so we allowed it to happen had something in my had something in my right what does it

sound like to you a j it's tough that's tough i said all these things before the game though i would like it to be no no no i said all in the i was mid game mid championship game because bone came out no hot no he pulled up a hammie after getting beat deep exactly exactly my right eye I understand. Yeah, you can't see. You can't play, man. It's tough. I'm watching stereo here.

You know, I mean, what am I? I've seen Foxy played through a dead pull calf. Look, worthy champions. I've seen you guys battle. See you guys make walk-off shots, great defense. You posted defensive highlight the day before we won. Yeah, we're great on defense. You guys were as well.

You guys had some great defensive stops and some great points. You got to win on both sides of course. So Bowen's getting in the air now? Bone actually is getting off the ground. Not getting in that. Yes, yes, he is, AJ. He's a little. There's rumors going around the U-Ball universe

that New York has not reviewed the footage of the championship game yet, so still to be determined. No, that's not real. Foxy's the only one to talk to New York, and New York is his phone. So, I mean, Foxy's certainly the one that would know. We've got to take New York a little bit out of it. They're a little more hands off.

I like that. Yeah, I mean, it's good if it goes, mostly because of effort. So what happens a lot is D-Butt makes not a lot. I don't want to bury Bone, because Bone has been playing. great U-ball and he's a champion. So I don't want to bury him too much. He's gotten better. Weird shooting thing.

He started, I mean, just his trailblazer, he has gotten very good. But Debutt, you know, on the defensive end, makes like some insane play, you know? And then he tossed it to Bone, and Bone forgets, say he's supposed to be in the air when he catches it. He catches it, and he's like, oh, it's supposed to be up. And then he goes up and dunks it. And it's like, us, me and Fox were like, that's a great play by Debutt. Like, that's an incredible play. So in U-Bull theory, good if it goes, because that was maximum effort,

but the guy that actually put the ball in is 10 toes down every time he touches the ball. So, you know, it's a... Gentleman's gay. Good if it goes. Yeah, gentlemen's gay. Add some of mine. Okay. I wanted to win with dignity, but it was tough after reviewing some of the footage from that particular game.

And I would like to let you know, you guys were a good team. I'm proud of him. He took control at the end after he won the first round, because he was, you guys like to start shooting and we end up being, you know, the bottom of the ninth. But he was like, no, no, no, no, Debutt. We had to have a, had to have a little powwow. And then he came out with two for three, first round. So, hey, all right.

Hey, they really did. So Debuck goes two or three, I think, in the last inning against us to beat us. Hits a walkoff game winner. Okay, so he hits two out of his three shots from the opposite free throw line. DeBone, I think, hit one of them. So they had a huge final winning to beat us. It was like big comeback, boom, go ahead and win. And then now it's a championship game, and you can either start on defense or offense.

And we always start on offense shooting because air balls are minus points. But if you're not on defense, you haven't accrued any points yet. So you're not really affecting yourself. It's a smart strategy of the game we have found. We've been a chance for three months. This is how we play. So like we have found this to be our strategy. Anytime somebody who's got to a championship game against us, they've just basically allowed us to continue to play with our strategy.

like, yeah, we're going underneath. We're going to shoot last because they think they're going to make a lot more shots than they are going to make tips. Defense is where you get all your points. Tips are just, the shots are kind of like a bonus. So D-Bone and D-But, whenever they win, D-But's like, yep, we're going down to defense. We're going to do exactly what Foxy and Pat have done for this entire run. And I will say, I did not expect that I had debone. D-Bone said, D-But, I'm not, we're not getting into this.

We're shooting first. And it was crazy to see. It was actually crazy to see. Bone do that. Padua of Jedi. And then, hey, then he fucking steps up the first one. Splash. D-butt fresh off of going two for three of the last inning.

Splash. Bone, splash. D-but-miss, I think. Bone miss, D-butt make. All of a sudden, we're down 8-1 or something. Yeah, let's off. And it was a championship game, and it's like, holy fuck, we're about to actually potentially lose this.

We are maybe going to lose. This is the first time we've ever really felt that way. And it was admirable what you guys did. So new teams? or we I mean we can just keep doing this and yeah we got to figure it out I don't know what my U-ball future looks like

whoa I spent a lot of time doing this when I couldn't do anything else you know winner's stay on court can somebody else fucking play no winner's got to stay on the court I would like to go right over there

there for about 10 minutes maybe sit down for a second no got to play fucking somebody else wants the title sorry all right who held the title who was it OTC or somebody else

Bruno Sam Martino held the world title for like seven years or something like it. I think. But the OTC. Bob Backlin, not too far behind either. Eugene had a couple good months. I don't think we're talking world championships there with Eugene. Eugene got one. Oh, we double check with the miss.

Eugene got one. World title. Did you check with Gilbert too, just to see? No, Gilbert unfortunately didn't get one. But Eugene did. Remember we had Gilbert on the RV? Oh, yeah. This show is... How could you forget?

You people that are watched our show right now, thank you so much. You have no fucking idea how terrible this thing has been since the jump. Since the jump of this show. I mean, we had done, we've done some horrendous stuff. Things that we thought were going to be good ideas and then just end up not being fantastic. Like the back of a box truck. We're going to take down to Louisiana with no air conditioning and do a show live from that. Yeah.

That was a nightmare. 135 degrees in back of that box truck. Go for it. All the tech shutting down immediately. because it's too hot, turns out. So let's go pick up some fans from CVS and see if that'll help. That was a good idea.

On the flip side, it didn't really have. The heat wasn't great. So we did one in Pittsburgh, and it was like minus five in there. Tech was breaking there. Yeah, that was tough. I thought we really changed the game, though, back of a box truck with a studio,

just drive. It was cool. Plug it in. It had a plug on the outside, just plug it into a thing, and then we have full studio inside the back of a box truck. I really felt good about it.

It worked for us. It did work. It did work. It was awesome. It worked for us for a while, but there was some drawbacks. Certainly very stressful for certain aspects of it. But no, it did. It did absolutely work.

What do you mean stress? Are you talking about, like, in the back room there? Yeah, like that was still when we were, you know, putting the podcast up. There was a lot of editing involved with it, and it just, like, never worked, ever. Like, or something always went wrong. How about the phone, though? That was easy to operate. Yeah, yeah.

Phone was certainly easy to operate, you know, when you're trying to kind of ride the levels. And then you got like 800 people calling in. You try to put them through. and for whatever reason, you know, that doesn't work, so you've got to go back and, you know, dick around with a bunch of stuff. And the space back there was very tight. Me, Foxy, and Z, we're kind of sitting on each other's laps back there as well. Box truck only can be so big as the lane.

Exactly. You know, the lane of a road is really all you got. You forget that. That's really all you got is the width of a lane is all you have. Yeah, we've taken a winding road to get to this point. We're very thankful for everybody that has allowed us to do this for a living for so long. we assume you will all stop watching when you do that we will stop doing this

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you know they will why would anyone stop watching I would if I was them but we appreciate the fact that they allow us to do this for a living and we'll continue to try to provide things that maybe make the sports world better. Like, for instance, the top five performing offensive lines every single week when we go in the trenches. AQ. Who are the top 5-0 lines of week 14 of the NFL season? Let's start with number five, the Green Bay Packers. There's go. Green Bay Packers get a huge

win against a division rival. Chicago Bears. I love this play. We're going to leave two to the front side. The front side is the right side. N-man on the line of scrimmage is going to be they kick out from the guard, tight end wrap. Wiley, look at the block by Aaron Banks, squeezed through there, plus 10. This is who Green Bay is, by the way. Josh Jacobs isn't going to break it for 40, right? Tye, he's not going to break it for 50 very often,

but he's going to give you 6. He's going to give you 7. By the end, in the fourth quarter, he's going to give you 10. And before you know it, they got 100 yards rushing, and they pass block their ass off off. Jordan was awesome, too, yesterday. Yeah, that is kind of because, like, last year it really was. They were only going to go as far as Josh Jacobs could take him, and they still need him to be good.

question, but they are at their best when Love can push it downfield and kind of be aggressive. And I mean, I think all three of the touchdowns that he threw on Sunday against the Bears were third and eight or longer. So it's like when the explosive plays get back, like that's when they can really be at their best. And versus the Blitz. Keep eating them up. He's going to keep lighten you up. We like the Bears defense too, right? This is a great performance against a great defense. Yeah, absolutely. And Dennis Allen's been great as DeButs knows. I mean, he came from New Orleans. He's a legend down there. defensive coordinator, but he lives and dies by the Blitz.

And whenever you can pick it up, Jordan Love and the Packers did a great job. DeBair's one year away, two years away? Quarterbacks got to get a lot better. But that's what I'm saying, by like a, like a another. But Willie. In that system? He's got to take steps. Oh, you're saying you don't know if he will.

I thought we all just assumed he will because of where he was. I'm not assuming that at all. Is anyone else? I think I assume he will. I assume you will. You're assuming, you're not assuming. I'm not. You're saying a lot of work is going to have to go into that?

100%. Yeah, he's going to have to get better. It is also tough because, like, Bo Nix and Drake May both got exponentially better this offseason. And he had a brand new offense, brand new everything happening. But on that note, Ben Johnson's offense, we all just assume is, like, electrifyingly good. And a couple other guys did, too. Yeah. As a Packers fan, too, like, they are much better, but, like, the Packers are still very young.

Like, the Packers aren't going anywhere either. And, like, the Lions, like, I guess we'll see what happens. But, like, we're talking about the Lions being shite. and they're eight and five right now and you know who else we're talking about nine who's coming off for 163 yards and three touchdowns and no interceptions against maybe the worst team in the NFL on Sunday he wasn't asked to do anything else okay through three touchdowns he had a hundred I know super duper sure yeah we're back reading pass rating the rating yeah exactly the one that goes over a hundred right pass what's that one go to because what I saw a 130 the other 158.3 holy fuck what a perfect number for a rating to go to that's what we need to we need more of that we need 158.3 to be the top it's like when i'm with fucking gumpy hey what's the temperature outside and he tells me fucking canadian weather and then he 22 Celsius yeah what and then he there is an equation

close to minus two Celsius right now and then we go to fucking chat gpt how do i do this and like well actually subtract 22 from it and then you should be able to get to it's like well what if it's negative do i add it or and it's like well that's not accurate it hasn't been right at all So I don't want to have to do all that. Okay, so just give me the 100 one. I don't need the 158.3 one because my brain isn't good enough to know what's fucking an A and what's a B and a C in that. They also do like where a guy will go like 19 of 32, let's say, and throw a touchdown and his quarterback rating will be shit. And they'll be like, it would have been higher if he would have just spiked the ball on every single play.

Yeah, when they go like 39 or something is when you come. Yeah, yeah. They turnover worthy plays. It's all that bullshit. That isn't real. Now, I have a question. And do they say that because what that play actually equates to in a QBR when you have to spike the clock, when you have to spike the ball? Like in that situation, what a spike is in that particular case, the scoring of it, are the people just assuming that that score would remain the same for each play if they were to do it on first down, second down, third down, and fourth down for the entire game?

But I don't understand it. Like, does a situation matter? Well, when a guy throws a touchdown, that's the best possible outcome on that play. So how do you grade that? Like, well, this guy was open, and he had to throw a little bit tougher of a throw. It was a touchdown, but he probably shouldn't have thrown. Oh, we're not getting for this. We hate this.

And that's the DVOA and the DVOE where it's like over-expected, over-average. It's like normally someone who makes this throw is an interception. So that's technically a turnover-worthy play. They score a touchdown, but, I mean, this goes into the whole PFF thing where Gino Smith throws for Andrejard. Did they take the rankings off on Sunday night? No, they didn't. They did not.

No. And a lot of players on the Texans, especially on their offense, as much surprised you, were ranked very, very low. Hey, we got a good one for you tonight. Look at this shitty group of dudes. Why would they even want that? Their O-line, I mean, their whole entire O-line. One of the guys wasn't even ranked, Titus Howard.

Just a dash? Nothing below it. And I'm assuming it's because he plays tackle, but they've moved him into guard. Probably. So they don't even know where to rank them. So they don't even know what to fucking do. They should take the best rating that they have for each player.

This guy has the best two steps in the history of ball or something. Try to make it look good as opposed to just burying these people. Do the rankings change week to week? Like say you have two Sunday night games. Could you be 25th out of 100 this game and then 60th the next game? Later in the season, it's going to be harder to move drastically. Obviously, early in the year when there's less amount of reps, you can obviously move with you. This is all law of averages, brother.

It's all law of averages. Core GPA. It's right. You're basically set right now. I don't know if there's enough legal room for you to make a big drastic change. unless you just completely shite the bed, I guess. You can move down, I think, quick. I think it's hard to move up.

Where he is or where he is. Good luck the rest of the way. Swago. Who's number four performing offensive line coming out of week 14? Whoa. The Denver Broncos. You like this team. It feels like this team has been on here a couple times.

Yeah, I do like this team. I like the group up front, and I really like this running back. RJ Harvey Harvey's been fantastic, but this is duo, right? They got all the people in there, multiple tight ends, extra bigs, and we're just going to run. Who are we going to find? We're going to find Quinn Miners, right? run between that gap

find Quinn Miners, find McGlinchie find the guys that you've paid a hundred plus million dollars to and run between that whole boys. Who's 60? Who's 60? 60's the center, Luke Wattenberg. He just got paid too, by the way. Watch his feet here.

Yeah. How good is that? How good is that? Look at Garrett Bowles on the left. Left tackle. He's been paid. I mean, this whole group's been paid. By the way, it's a pretty good thing to know that if you're playing the Raiders,

you're most likely going to be on the top five offensive lines that week. I'm just going to throw that out there. Oh, the Raiders suck. Yeah, real bad. I mean, I'm almost positive every single week they are on the defensive side. So Max Crosby is just getting double-tripped and then everybody else stinks. He makes his plays, but they don't, I mean, just look at that hole.

You just run up the interior. Look at that Barry. Geez, I didn't even see that until you just mentioned that. That's incredible. The burial? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 60 there at the bottom of the screen. Boom, got a ring streak in it. That seems to be a little violent, don't it.

Bronco's offense good enough to win a Super Bowl? Yeah, the crazy thing is I think they're dogs this week. I mean, along with New England, they're both dogs and they're arguably the two best teams in football. But yes, what Bo Nix has been able to do. The fuck. I really like what Bo Nix is able to do. Did you see what he did in the overtime? Yeah, we're not talking about that.

We're not talking about it. Let's just move on from this conversation. Something popped up. Something just popped up on the backboard here. Number three, performing offensive line at week 14 is Tennessee Titans. I've said publicly in this microphone. Hey, I try to find out who's going to win a Super Bowl.

No, the top five performing a fucking offensive line every single fucking week. And we got the Tennessee Titans on here? Can they do it? They went against... AMC South! It's a juggernaut. You also got to understand this is the last week of buys, I'm pretty sure.

I think there's no more buys, so all our good teams that are on buys are back. So the groups moving forward for the rest of the season are going to be the really good groups. This group, however, went against the Cleveland Browns. And they beat the shit out of them. They really did. They held mild there to one sec.

They beat the shit out of them. And they ran the shit out of the ball. They ran for almost 200 yards. I did not know that. How are they so bad? I mean, it's certainly not their offensive line. I mean, it starts with their quarterback. He's young, and they don't have any talent on the outside.

But the running back is Tony Pollard. We all know Tony Pollard. Great with the Cowboys. Been paid to go over the Titans. And they got good players. He got Zaitler here out in space. Look, Kevin Ziegler. Zitler is one of the best guards in football over the last 10 years.

There's three guys on the ground right there. Let's go back real quick. Can we take a look at Gunner Helm, too? Let's see number 84, second level? Circle, second level on the linebacker? Nice. Rookie tight end from Texas going and burying someone at the second level. Two guys on the ground at his feet.

He'll take both of those knockdowns. Feels like the Tennessee Titans shouldn't be his ass. Is that what you're saying? They have to get better at the quarterback position and the skill positions on the outside and running the offense. But up front, they got guys. They got first round picks across the board. I got J.C. Latham.

They got Kevin Zitler. They got guys up front. Pete Skoroski. He's incredible. I've seen Pam make throws with my own eyes. I see him when he played the courts. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Thank you.

Who's 755? Who's the left tackle? J.C. Latham? Watcher by you. What a little vet move in? Oh, yeah, a little slingshot, and then use your body, then get your body on the other side of your set in a pick. That's beautiful.

That is. A little slingshot technique. Bama? You go to Buma? Yeah. Latham, yeah. He was an other guy's favorite O. Lyman this past off season.

Tennessee. Tennessee Titans' offensive line coach was Mr. Callahan. Yes. He was a good offense line coach. Very good. good. So, why do they suck? I mean, their scheme wasn't very good. And like, let's just call it a spade of spade. We can sit here and say what we want about number one overall pick Cam Ward.

He's not there yet, period. Well, and that's the thing. Every single press conference was Callahan going like, oh, you want to call the fucking play? So, like, can you learn that much? He was so angry. Yeah, can you learn that much from a guy who doesn't know how to speak? He was so mad. Just always yelling. So mad. I mean, Paul Kuharski would just be like,

So what did you think about your game plan this week in Callahan? Would literally be like, you fucking come up with it there. Yeah, but Paul would have a little sauce on it. He would. He would. He always had something. Well, it would say, game plan in which we lost by 30, how did we come up with it? Like, there would always be something. He knew what he was doing. Yeah. And Callahan just couldn't help it. You know, he was dog with carrot here. Yep.

Yeah, I'm actually going to take the bait. I'll take the bait. I'll take the bait. Fuck you. It was tough to like them. Every time. It was tough to like him. And, like, huge fan of a guy. like that who comes from a football family with a legendary father who's an O-line coach who then

leaves his team to come coach for him. Like, that guy on paper is someone that you fucking love. But then every single price conference he had to just eviscerate someone for asking him like a football question. Nothing sums up Brian Callahan's tenure better than the, I don't

know what this is. I don't know what the hell that. What does that say? What is that word there? What is that? This just got popped up on a screen. I. O.M. non-challenge in week one. So he's a receiver. Do you know that he's a fifth round pick receiver from Stanford? Oh, yes. Okay. I didn't know if that was

some sort of stat. I didn't know if that was some sort of... I was trying to help there. Better than the stat, you know, this whole thing. So he... An elbow doesn't equal two feet. My interpretation of the rule was wrong. I misspoke yesterday. I'm well aware of the rule. Okay. That I guess that is kind of what we... That is a great representation of the entire thing.

Cam Ward, though, sounds like you're not... How about him on Caleb and Cam? I also think... Both these guys suck. No, I don't. I don't think that. I think they have to grow, and that's just where we're at with rookie quarterbacks. They have to get better. But I also think, last thing on this thing, is the Callahan head coach versus that Callahan old man,

who's the O-Line coach, run two different schemes, right? Like Bill Callahan comes from this scheme. I think there was kind of like a little bit of budding heads based on, hey, let's bring my dad in great offense-al-line coach, but he likes to do this with his O-line, and we're running a scheme that doesn't really necessarily benefit what we're doing with my players. So within the own family or is a little bit? shut the fuck up that I think there's a little bit

I think I also think when you have a first round when you have the number one overall pick It's like an Orange County choppers I'm serious Yeah The title is always battled I mean they're both

They're making choppers But it was two very different styles of making choppers You're saying the Callahan boy And Callahan fodder ran different styles I think it was two different styles And I also think you try and force When you have a number one overall pick

Hey let's just drop back And let them throw it 35 times a game I don't think that's the answer for young quarterbacks either you sure about that son yeah oh in front of the whole team yeah yeah here's my resume dad why don't you come outside

real quick you motherfucker don't ever fucking challenge me in front of the fucking team again old man sorry about that guys that won't right the hallway yeah you want to call your dad

no call your fucking dad they need a Mikey over there you know That's what the Tuttle's had. They had Mikey, the other brother, that really had good vibes. Well, the other Callaghan brother, talk about a temper. Makes those two look like I'm okay.

A unifier. Yeah, that guy is a hothead. Callahan's family, I guess not. It was like when, you know, some people describe family vacations. Like, we're just picking up the drama and taking it somewhere else. They did it. They did the Nashville, man. It's unbelievable.

I didn't know that was the case until right now. I thought it was a good story they were coming together. I thought it was potentially becoming them versus the Titans. Maybe the Titans were kind of going. What you're saying is maybe the Titans saw what Dad was doing or not what Dad was doing a little bit more than what some was doing. And then the dad was saying, boy, I've been telling you your whole life, you need to do this. Just need to run the ball.

Number two offensive line of week 14 is, wow. The Miami Dolphins. I can't wait to see the matchup this week. Miami Dolphins. A lot of losing records on this top five offensive lines. Yeah, there is. Not for much longer. That's right.

Tell him, Gumpy. I mean this group is fantastic and let me tell you fantastic yeah I like that I did there like that let me tell you they have been so good running the football recently if you watch this clip right here start the fullback one way alec ingold is as good a fullback as there is and Aaron Brewer if he is not the first team all pro center this year I quit he is the best center in football hands down and this is why because he runs to the next level and he runs people off the screen look that little torque at the end but he's the reason the run game is going So the Miami Dolphins aren't ass

No, they become very good And it all started when they fire their GM I'm not sure what correlation that is But all of a sudden they became good at that moment What was that dump? What do you think? And why? Chris Greer stunk Also Austin Jackson came back And we're just sticking with the run game

McDaniel's done with it We're not doing the stupid shit Where we're dialing up these dumb-ass plays Just pound the rock Nobody can stop our run game Gonna keep doing it Monday night in Pittsburgh Whoa Yeah

Let's go to one half of the hammer Cowboys Live and Hammer Don, Don, Don. I didn't know you had the number two offensive line this week on prime time. Tone. Are you scared to death about Retro Rogers maybe having to run into a dynamite dolphin squad?

Yeah, yeah, super, super scared about the Miami Dolphins coming into 18-degree weather. Steelers have won 22 straight Monday night football games at home, and they're wearing color rush. So yeah, I'm shaking over here. You are shaking? No. it's fucking dolphins dude

all right let's move on is a chin hurt no he's doesn't matter it doesn't matter the back they were beating the shit out of the jet so bad he could take the rest of the day off

oh what is that his ribs hood what's that what flexion you're using that oh by wibby's hood is that your daughter are you being your daughter

right now he's being Mason Rudolph maybe oh coming in for Aaron Rogers for a couple plays I don't know what that means. I don't speak Canadian. Thank you, Tony.

All right, let's go to the number one performing offensive line of the NFL season. Yeah, the Los Angeles Rams, hands down. By far, the best O line this week. 250 yards rushing, 280 plus yards passing. They did whatever they wanted in the desert. Let's look at this backside. Alaric Jackson, a little seal block on the backside

on Darius Robinson, and then boom, out the gate. Terrible fit by the safety. But having said that, 48-yard touchdown run right there. We knew this was going to happen, right? Puka was one of the ones, Puka Power, it's a game he's calling it. Offensive line that is now automatically showing up whoever's playing against the Arizona Cardinals because you're seeing them.

There is starting to become a little bit of, if I get my eyes on these things, all of a sudden, I'm a little bit more impressed. This Los Angeles Rams offensive line, Super Bowl-worthy. I mean, the problem is every time I'm watching these games against every team in the NFC West, this is what they're doing. Uh-oh. Not good. Arizona Cardinals, nine and a half point dogs this week.

against the Houston Texans without both of their starting tackles. Sportsbooks know something that we don't know, but on the Ram side of things, they are one of the three NFC teams that we see as representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. That's an accurate assessment. Yeah, there's no doubt. I think their offensive lines fantastic. The stuff they're doing in 13 personnel is great. Their tight ends are great.

Their receivers are great. They got two-headed monster with the backs. Let me say this. I watched Matthew Stafford come out one for four, and I'm like, okay, cool, we're going to have a chance. Cardinals come out. They score right away. it's 7-0. Then all of a sudden, he throws 13 of his next 14, and

just everything just starts going. Yeah, he won't 1 of 4, but before that, they just ran it right down the Cardinals' throat. I mean, which goes to your point here about the offensive line. All right, shout to the top five performing offensive lines to the NFL season. Congratulations to them. We appreciate the hell out of you, big boys,

moving bodies for the betterment of ball. Now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get smarter. It's time to go to the secondary. It's time to go to some defense. It's time for good D, bad D, everything. D.B. with D-beat Darius Butler. Yes, Earl, we'll stay in the NFC West. We've got a rookie making waves.

They got, I mean, a bunch of talented guys on this defense from the front line all of it to the back end. Devin Witherspoon, one of a but Nick Eamon Worry, rookie, Swiss Army Knife, made history in Seattle. Philgo Block, sack, a couple TFLs, and a pick. Just roll the highlights. This whole defense might be

down. We talked about him. His defense fly around and do a ton of different things. They're good against the run. They harass quarterbacks. It's going to be a headache facing Uncle Phil this week. We'll see what they got up their sleeves, but this guy is an absolute weapon. We get to the tape and see them on the All-22.

This is first foremost, this is the Blitz, and you try to figure out who's coming, where they're coming from, you see the different disguised, rotating, linebackers popping out, you pause it here, fire zone, five-man pressure, and pretty much like almost like a quarter shell on the back end. How do you stop that?

How do you stop that? He was the three yards off the line scrimmage. There was another guy that thought he was coming. I mean, it's just so good. I mean, that's what I'm saying, every single week with Mike McDonald he is creating things in pressures that we've never seen before. Literally. Never seen. You can hear the...

Tell what we've seen him. Thank you. You can hear the right here. Dachgobbit! Thank God we're hearing something. It's when we stop hearing things that we've got to be worried. But this defense's a real deal. It's real deal. Watch 48 cross the face. Yep. Watch 48 cross a

pause. It annihilates two guys. Yeah, if you run it back a little bit, it's just though, like you have blitz paths. You've got to be disciplining those blitz paths. Almost like routes his receiver to open up. He's doing his job. Five, three, he's doing his job on the edge. You open up that lane for three. And when he gets back there, he's going to make it count.

He's going to get him down on the ground. Big hitter can play in coverage. He gives you so much versatility on that back end. He's unbelievable. As a rookie, you talk about, you know, BA talks about having your rookies ready around Thanksgiving. This guy's been a dog all season long. Timing of the Blitz. You're born with it? Some guys are better. I think right now

just watching Tate, like Nicobie Dean, probably times up. Blitz is better than the linebacker for Philadelphia, 17. He probably times them up better than anybody. But it's a field thing. It's a practice thing. Walk through. These guys spend a lot of time with each other talking about it. The defensive coordinator knowing when to call it. At this point, this was just an all-out salt. You're up a bunch of points. You know you're in a must-pass situation. So that's when you're going to get all the good shit. But guys are better at timing than other guys, right? For sure. Like that's just a natural thing. Being able to understand what a cadence is,

what they're looking to do, not give it away so much. That's why they talk about Hall of name Harrison Smith, like he has the timing in which his disguises and what he does is a big thing, but he's born with that. Timing it up and, you know, acting skills too, because AQ and those guys, they're looking at guys, quarterbacks are looking at guys. Sometimes the TBs,

it almost doesn't matter what they do because sometimes Olamer can look at the front and they can say, okay, they can only come from this side. And with this particular coverage, like the safety couldn't really blitz because two would have been completely uncovered. So you kind of know those different things, but still when you time

it up in the offense. They got to be on the same page post-snap as well. Running backs, they got to be on the same page. Sometimes they're scanning the cross, so they may see something late. It only takes one guy to be out of position. You get a free hitter at the quarterback. All right. Let's roll. There's some more good deep. Hell yeah. Another one. Devin Witherspoon in the slot, we all know about him. Fantastic young quarterback. He can cover. He can blitz. He's all over number three receiver right here. We always talk about tips and overthrows. And you see this play.

Like it looks almost like an easy catch because it's tipped up in the air. but you see db's linebackers drop these type of ball i think i was talking to you during the packers game a couple weeks ago it's like damn if they just caught half of these they'll be leading the league and interception so catching this play been in the right spot devon with this point he does the tough slet in there and then making it count in the back in a big third down it was 20 to 6 at that point you know falcons maybe never had a chance but right there that's when that kind of avalanchees just gets going thank you for showcasing how good this defense is so whenever phil rivers does his thing yeah i'm just giving him give him phil some more film i know he's seen all this

And, you know, these coaches now, most of these coaches are younger than Phil at this point. He's seeing, you know, where these trees started from. He's seen, you know, Rex Ryan and all the old guys in these trees. So this is elementary. But I want to make sure Phil Seasers, though. He is older than McDonald. What's that? He's got a point there.

Phil Rivers is older than Mike McDonald. He's been around ball, a long time, Will. So you better have to bring your best stuff. And speaking of bringing the best stuff, we talked about email there. He had a – Philgo Block, too? Yeah, like a nasty Philgo Block. I mean, like, full extension.

off the right hand perfectly timed it. He didn't block it. Talk about the timing. Yeah, boom. Yeah, like here's a timing. Like, you're born with this. I don't think this is like, I think Ed Reed had it. Ed Reed had it.

Troy Paul and Malu had it. Obviously, you remember, through the grades of the past, they were able to just time things up perfectly. To be able to get to a fuel goal operation off the edge, like without any push, kind of low kick mess. The timing of your get-off has to be insane. And then the athleticism of the bend and the grip that you have to have outrageous. So they're great everywhere.

Seattle. He's an unbelievable football player. Witherspoon, same thing. He can cover any receiver in the league and one of the best blitzing cornerbacks in the National Football League as well. But can he cover somebody when Phil Rivers is throwing a ball? Yes, we'll see. I haven't heard anybody that could cover Tyler Warren or tight ends. Yeah, especially if Phil Rivers is good with tight ends? Oh, I don't know. That's that one going to the whole fan? Yeah, who just went in the whole fame?

Oh, he's a basketball player. I think he's pretty good with tight ends. We'll see. Maybe more Seattle highlights next week. I doubt it. They could fucking kill us, it looks like. That could. But Uncle Phil could do it. All right.

There's more good D. Yeah, another great defense. We've got to play them. Yeah, we'll see. Once again, just feed and feel. More infill, more intel on these guys. Jalen Petrie, he's having it all pro season. This may be the first time.

I'm not sure we'll have to run the tape. It may be the first time a guardian cap has made an appearance on good, D, bad D. But he has been unbelievable. This entire D. The corners on the outside, Stingley and Lasseter, they bring it. Lassiter as a cornerback, he's there. He's like a tone setter on that defense.

Bullock, the free safety, who knocks the shit out of Juju after the tip. He's been the best free safety, deep ball safety in the league, and the Jalen Petrie. He's unbelievable. He can play in the slide. You see him one-on-one right here. Juju Smith's Schuster matched up with him undercuts. We talk about tips and overthrow. So about tipping it to yourself and then going and finishing the play.

And he's not just, you know, a ballhawk. He's got four picks this year, but he will take your. head off as well, just an absolute heady player, instinctual as well. So the next play, you'll see the big hit that we've seen. You'll see how it kind of happens from the all-22 side of things. It's like a zone coverage. So up top,

they're like a quarters or a cover two type match. Down here, Stingley, he's going to match the tight-in one-on-one. And he's just looking for work back there. Looking for work, reading the quarterback, reading the eyes, and time them up, line them up, and a big time, legal, physical hit from Jalen Petrie. Time him up, line them up.

That's a great bar right there. I mean, he certainly did both of those things. Oh, yeah. And it was clean hit. Clean. And he had a guardian cap on, so he saved 33% of the contact with Rishie Rice's shoulder and jaw. Which is very nice of him to do that for what the contact could have been. Rishie, good sell.

That was Sean Michaels. Yeah. That was a Sean Michael's type. I don't know if he was working. I don't know. I mean, he definitely, that's a big bump. Boom. And he cell, bang.

And another one. I mean, that's Sean Michaels versus Hulk Hogan. Yeah, exactly. The type selling. And I was hoping he was okay. after that whole thing. Whenever your shoulders are the first thing that hit the ground, you know, like, if you run it back,

when you're like, whenever your shoulder, that's, you know, what did the old coach you say? Like, AJ ass over T-killed or some shit like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a big time thump right there. Yeah, and Rishie Rice, by the way? He gets back up. After this, gets back up.

Respect that. Yeah, a lot of respect, a lot of toughness. But I do appreciate that Petrie had the big hit. And I also don't mind that people want to go over and fight a little bit. I saw some people that were like, can't be fighting on just a big hit it's like yeah you definitely can't just say that is not how this is going to go creed humphrey i think it was creed uh no what's his name the center yeah yeah you got you're right trade humphrey was over there within like half a second like in the guys

in his face or whatever and it's like i don't mind that at all and there's people on here and they're like this chief's team can't even take a hit without getting a fight i'm like i actually like that the chief's team is still fighting for each other at this stage of popularity and success and everything like that yeah and he knows if you're going to declete somebody like that there's potentially going to be a little bit of a, that's in every sport that is a physical context. And that defense feeds off of that type of shit, seeing guys land on the ground, seeing quarterback slow to get up, seeing, you know, receivers are tight-in complaining to the refs about getting held or guys being too physical.

So it's a lot of that. This team, every week, they come out and they're trying to be the best defense to ever line up and play the football. Even the small little thing, can you go back to that video that we were shown at the end? We'll get old buddy pick up the ball too. Just in case this is rule to catch and a fumble. I want to make sure that we have possession of the ball. Like, that's just a small little detail right there.

That ball is on the ground. D-Line's first thought is, I need to go pick this ball up. We have no idea what's going to happen under review. And then also, you're fighting, we're not fighting in there. It's like you look at every little aspect of what they're doing. It's all good ball down there in Houston. That's why they're the number one defense in the league. And that's why they are a problem.

And that's why they are a prime time problem because the boo birds are coming out against that. And to your point about Creed, like in that replay, I guess I didn't really notice it. He's talking shit to the entire side. line. Like, none of them can do anything. So he has to, whether it's for Rishi Rice's the big hit or him or a Petri Dish talking shit to the entire sideline. It's like, hey,

someone has to at least say something to this guy and I'll just get bitched around. Does he the hardest hitter that's wearing a Guardian cap? I think so. I can't think of many. I think most of the big hitters take pride on the fact that they're probably not wearing a cargan. I think I'm not certain. I think he's had some concussion issues. Who's the

who wears the garden cap in Buffalo? I think he brings a hat sometimes. too. Taylor rap? Yeah, rap. Tell the rap. Yeah, some of the guys bring it. It's a different area. Different area. No, but I just respect the fact that

let's put the guardian cap on because I am thinking about my brain. Now, with that being said, you're supposed to be thinking about my brain. I'm not going to be doing that when I'm playing because I am flying. I mean, we're not changing our style of play at all. I'm adding a layer, okay?

Do your job. That's what I'm expecting you to do because I'm going to do my job, and it's only one way, and I'm head on. I mean, he is a hit of him. That's a hit of him. That whole deep, yeah, him as well, but that whole defense from, we all know about, you know, Will Anderson Jr., Daniel Hunter, Al Shahir, he's, he always tolds that line when it comes to physicality. He's going to bring it, bullet. And I can't say it enough. Like, Lassiter, Camarie Lassar, number four, their corner is. His second year, like, he wants, a lot of times we'll see, usually in the trenches, because offenses, they want to put the onus on corners and safeties to make those tackles on the third level. He wants that action, whether it's Blitzin, whether it's showing up in the gap, he wants that action.

He actually was asked, I forget, who was, maybe, maybe speak easy. I'm not sure. One of the podcasts at that late night after games, they asked, like, who's, who's, like, the first guy you want to send off the bus on your defense? And I'm thinking he's going to say, well, he's like, shit, me. I'm about that. I want all this moose. I love it. I love that as a young player.

I love that as well. Some more good D around the lead. Oh, yeah, we all saw it on prime time. Both of these defenses showed up, but the Chargers, they were unbelievable. mentor. They play a ton of zone covers. They're great on third down. And they're always aware of what's going on. It's a pretty common, simple

route. If you run it back, we used to call this a dice route. You almost look at it when you pause it at the top where it's almost like a five on the dice. And it's typically if you pause it, go back, pause it right at the top of Jalen Hertz's drop. So they're anticipating the drop. You see that flat defender go. Dante Jackson's

played a ton of ball. Boom. So it's pretty much like a five on the dice, right? Dice route. Dante Jackson is great. And Dan O said it was on Devante Smith because he slipped. I don't care if he slipped or not. Jackson is all over. He put his foot in the ground. He's been playing great football this year. Reading the quarterback, foot in the ground. Boom. Gets in front of the wide receiver makes a big time play. And it started pre-snap. You can see Derwin James at his safety. He makes communication as soon as he's coming over. Hey, whatever that communication,

not only to the corner, but to the linebacker as well. Everyone's on the same page. Everyone's covered and big time play. But it is a, once again, this is week, what, 14 in this game. is like a day one training camp route. Like Curl Flat Coffee. I mean, this is high school, college. Like, day. That's a pick no matter what. Yeah.

He jumped that summer. Great break. Foot in the ground. Unbelievable confidence of what was coming. Big time. So I know people look and say, hey, this one wasn't on Hertz. It is on Hertz. It's on Devonte.

And it's a great play by Dante Jackson. Hell yeah. We appreciate the hell out of all the great defense is thumping this year. It feels like it's a physicality group. Yeah. What defense will be able to lead their team to a Super Bowl? That's a conversation we have. had in a long time. Feels like it's a real one

this year. Congrats all, the good D on everything, DB. Got one more. Oh, really? The game winner. Oh, the game winner, and it stays with the Chargers and it stays with the guy who was on here last week, Tony Jefferson, who, one of your former teammates, right, A.Q? That's right.

And he took a couple years off, I want to say, not as many as you killed? Two years. Two years off. Yeah, so two years off, you never see that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Two years? Had a ACL. Then he took a couple years off. Oh, wow, wow. And he Five years off, maybe not bad. He came back and making big-time plays.

We saw him last week against the Raiders, running to the ball, talking about tips and overthrows, and this is him running to the ball again. Right here, it starts with Cam Hart, though. Cover two. Jalen Hurts sprinting out. You kind of have a flat seven route. So he's reading this underneath defender.

He's reading Hart. If he takes the lower, I throw the high. If he sinks back and take the high, he throws the low. This is first down. You throw the ball away, in my opinion. Over time, you have an opportunity to win the game. Jalen Hertz, Khalil Mack in his face unblocked. He tries to force the throw. Cam Hart does a great job

diving and getting in the window, tapping it up. And then Tony Jefferson back-to-back weeks does a great job on the sideline coming down within this situation, a game-winning interception. Mintz are going to get a job somewhere, D-Corporonator? Yeah. And Harbaugh has kind of been saying that from day one. He won a national championship in Michigan. It was unbelievable. Harbaal got the job, brought him here with L.A. had a good defense last year. Great defense. I think again this year. I think they have a championship level defense. It's just going to be about, can the O-line hold up? That's great deep, baby.

Hell yeah. It's great trenches. And we got a great fight coming up. Listen, there's a fight about to happen that I think everybody on earth will be surprised when it happens and certainly loud whatever the outcome is. There's a man who was once, you know, a child actor. Then he turned into an influencer. Then he became an empire, a mogul.

Then he became a professional boxer. And all he's done throughout the entirety of it is try to do good for the sport, try to raise some awareness, and try to become a fucking world champion. Ladies and gentlemen, he has a chance to fight one. Anthony Joshua will be his opponent. And this is the biggest, strongest, most talented guy that he's ever been scheduled to fight. That'll be happening on Friday, December 19th. It's being called Judgment Day. And I believe it will be Judgment Day for the legend.

Ladies and gentlemen, El Gael, Jake Paul. Thank you for having me. dude thank you for joining us uh can i congrats on everything dude oh thank you you you're your venture and you as well pat and you as well you guys are always crushing and man it's really cool to see all the growth and all the things you guys are doing so congrats to you as well and very cool of you to say we appreciate that obviously we got a chance to watch you lay a blueprint for a digital career and now everything that you've kind of changed and grown into is awesome all the while being a professional boxer i would like to talk about your

investment fund uh because i think you're one of the earlier uh investors in Polly Market, which is now valued at, like, I think, $8 billion, $9 billion, some other things. So congratulations on fucking everything, Jake Ball. You're not just some dipshit influencer. You know what I mean? We know that. Yeah, no, sometimes I play that role for entertainment purposes. And, you know, I can do a little bit of everything.

So I can be the heel, the villain. I could be a jackass. I could shit talk. I could be investor, businessman, CEO, boxer, whatever it is. You know the drill. The current state of modern entertainment, you got to do it all. got to play across the board and be good at all these things. But, you know, I've been in this game for, man, 12, 13 years now.

And I've seen a lot of people fall by the wayside. But me and my brother have just worked hard and been super calculated and know what we're doing in this space. I think the work ethic is obviously absurd. And you guys are a couple Ohio fucks at your core. So we have massive respect for that. But obviously talent and having to understand where the world is going is a forethought that not a lot of people have in history or trailblank. You know that. Now, let's get to your boxing career. You've been very, very, very upfront about how you want to be a world champion. World champion. You focus your entire life to boxing, it seems. We've seen you in other eras and chapters of your life where you're doing a lot of things. Then you turned your focus fully to boxing. You said boxing saved your life. You fell in love with it. Now, you're taking on a guy who has done the same thing with boxing for most of his life. He has loved it. He has invested in it. He has fought the greats. He's been in the biggest fights. He's been champion. I think a lot of us were very that this would be happening.

How do you feel just a few days out? And what went into the decision to fucking fight Anthony Joshua? Yeah, look, to me, I see a lot of paths to victory in his style and styles make fights. We all know that. He's lost to guys who are shorter mostly

and lighter mostly and faster than him. I see holes in his game. I see punches that I can land that can hurt him. Now, he can definitely land punches on me, knock me out. He's more experienced. Olympic gold medalist,

two-time heavyweight champion of the world. This is definitely insane. I have to fight a perfect fight to be able to beat this guy, but I think of that I'm capable of that. And to me, at the end of the day, all of this is experience, all of this is fun, all of this is getting in there

and continuing to improve my skills as I work toward a world championship in my own weight class. I'm fighting at heavyweight. Oh, we lost them. They're trying to bog them down. At the end of the day, I'm going in there and I'm getting better. You're fighting a heavyweight.

You cut off real quickly whenever you said you're fighting at heavyweight. How much weight is that more? How much heavier are you fighting at this for this particular fight? Yes, I'm fighting like 50 pounds out of my weight class. Normally, I fight at 200 and Anthony Joshua will be around 250. Okay, so this fight's happening. There's people that have made. mentioned, like, there's no way this fight is actually happening, just strictly because of what

you just said right there. I mean, the weight difference, everything else, signing up for this because you're supposed to fight somebody else, tank backs out, now you fight Anthony Joshua. I think there's a lot of people that I think this is all some gimmick because of what you just said right there. This is not the case. You understand that you're going in there with a man who's not supposed to fight somebody that is at your weight. He's supposed to be fighting heavier people that are bigger people, which in theory, stronger people, maybe more durable people. There's weight classes for a reason in your mind that is just hey i need to this a challenge i need to take on that's kind of the mindset that you've taken yeah for sure you know the fight is definitely happening

first and foremost we're nine days away right now but at the end of the day i like fighting bigger guys i was going into fight jervante davis and sparring against the tiny guys they're like flies moving around the ring now i've reversed roles and i'm the lighter faster guy and to me that's something that I like. I can move around the ring, outbox them, outmaneuver them, land shots with my speed. And I believe that Joshua is very, very tough, very tough. But I see the shot that can knock him out and I'm going to test his chin. And this could potentially be the biggest upset. And, you know, in the history of boxing, let alone sports, someone said the other day. It's right up there with, you know, Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson,

and I'm going to pull it off. Fuck, yeah, Jake. Good luck out there, dude. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Jake, how do you see this fight ending? Is it going to end in a knockout one way or the other? Is that what you have planned? Do you think Anthony Joshua feels the same way?

I don't think he can knock me out because he's not going to be able to line up his shots properly to be able to land the hard punch. I think it's going to be a very tough fight for multiple rounds. But then when I figure out his pacing his style as speed, footwork, he's going to get, you know, a little bit tired trying to chase me around. And then I'm going to set up the shot. I'm not going to say exactly what, but I see what it is. And I think it'll end in the fifth or sixth round. I love that you see the shot. I assume,

not assume. I know that you're filming yourself work said shot so that we can have said moment in recap video of the to the real moment happening. And, uh, okay, Jake, I think. I think you have to have that mindset going into a fight with somebody because you can't play boxing, obviously. But whenever you have that type of forethought and that type of vision in work and that it all comes to fruition on the other side, talk about fulfillment in what your decisions are in your life. Excited to see it. Now, speaking of decisions, a lot had to be made, I assume, fighting somebody 50 pounds heavier. Go ahead. Yeah, obviously a huge changing opponents going from Tank to Anthony Joshua. So was there a big change in training outside of changing the sparring

partners, like a diet, maybe doing something to get a little stronger? Obviously, you're going to knock a dude out any big major changes in this training camp yeah we definitely focused a lot more on the strength workouts and lifting heavier weights i started to eat a bit more but i didn't want to bulk up too much the the speed is going to be the key here but we brought in world champion heavyweight sparring partners guys who are 270 pounds 250 pounds you know sparring them you know has been insane i still got the remnants of yeah i see taking a little shot there i like that you're taking no shots though have to eat them have to eat them yeah and and look that's what it's all about you know preparing for the night my coaches are some of the best in the world and they tell me look

we believe that the sparring you're doing right now is going to be harder than the actual fight night they don't lie to me i trust in my coaches and i also believe that as well big shots any of them that land obviously with the heavyweight is potential end of fight which is why heavyweight fights are always the one that everybody is kind of looking forward to. You fighting at heavyweight is fucking hilarious, Jake. You need to know from outside looking at it. It is a hilarious concept that you're doing, especially whenever you guys at the face off, it's like, this dude is going to, because you don't have to do this. This guy does not have to do this. And I don't want to reiterate this to you as like somebody who's watching

you from the outside. And I know you a little bit, I think, at this stage. Jake Paul does not have to do this. Like I just said, he has an investment in polymarket. The things were one of the Series A investor in a buying market. Things worth $9 billion now, okay? All the different business ventures, this guys had seven houses in Puerto Rico, this fucking guy. Like, does not have to do this. It's all for love of sport, right? That's kind of

what it is, love of sport that you found for boxing. Yeah, no, that... Oh, no. That says it... Using me as a vessel to inspire the next generation of kids going from zero to the top of a sport in five years, right? If this fight was a couple months ago, there would be a heavyweight belt on the line.

And when I beat Joshua, I would technically be the heavyweight champion of the world. This is a simulation of some sorts. But I truly believe that I'm here to show kids what's possible. Then that's always been my mission since I've started and is to inspire the next generation and create one of the best sports stories of all time. Like I said, not doing something and then rising to the top of it in such a short amount of time should inspire anyone to take action today and chase their dreams because in five years, six years, seven years, you can rise to the top of industry if you're fully dedicated.

And I believe that's what my story will show in documentary one day. Cannot wait to watch it all? You broke your nose. Is this new? I'm seeing your nose. Your nose is, is that from the same show? It's being more crooked, brother. I'm not going to lie.

The sparring, the heavy weights, my nose has moved a couple millimeters to this town. A guy by the name of Frank Sanchez, he definitely cracked it a little bit, so it definitely has a slight little something in there. But yeah, man, it's bad. Frank is... Wait, hold on. Look at that, dude.

I'm like, Squidward, dog. Hey, Frankie Sanchez, they talk about him. He's got that. You know, he's... Which one? Is he one of these guys? He's the one right next to me on the left. Those are gigantic, dude, bro. Once again, Jake Paul does not have to do this.

That is the entire angle that I think kind of gets missed. And on that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Jake, when it comes to this fight, it seems like people either in, like, boxing media or, like, combat media, they've only criticized it just because of, like, hey, this is what could happen. And I feel like you're no stranger to that. That's been every single one of your fights, whether it's Nate Robinson or whoever it's all. He's just fighting this guy so he can knock him out.

But on the flip side, like, has anyone commended you for taking this fight? obviously it's a massive risk and it's like this isn't just some side show this is a guy who's putting a lot on the line here to face someone who's a former world champion like has anyone reached out to you and said that or do you not give a shit about any of that anyway no yeah there's been tons of support and love and respect and people saying like wow like i don't even know if i like jake paul connor gregor being like i don't know about him but if he makes that fight i have to respect him jo rogan the list goes on and on about the amounts of people supporting it and saying, geez, if he goes in there, we all just have to

show some respect. But don't respect me for getting in there. Respect me when I beat his ass. That's what I've said to people. It's like, I'm not just going in there. I'm not just walking into a fight. I'm going to win. And that's what's going to shock the world. I will become the king of boxing and own the whole entire sport come December 19th. Okay, let's talk about owning the entire sport. We had Nick Kahn on, what was that, last week. We go to that. The Muhammad Ali

Evolution or Revival Act or something like that to be able for the new TKO promotion that is going to be running in boxing, launching in January on Paramount. I think you were in support of potentially the change

potentially to the Muhammad Ali Act maybe you have your own promotion as well. Have you thought that much? Can you do a lot of thinking about the future of boxing while training for a fight or is that constantly happening for you? And what is your thoughts on all of that

kind of the state of boxing right now? yeah no i mean at the at the end of the day i think the mohammed ali act is good i think it needs to stay in place if it goes away most valuable promotions in our company we always treat fighters fairly so people can have a home there i worry about it going away and other promoters in the game because boxing is a shady business and a lot of boxers aren't you know business savvy and knowing what's going on. So I believe that it should stay. That's my take on it. But the future of boxing, we're in a great place. And I think it's, you know, we're moving into I guess the streaming era of boxing, which I believe can bring in more fans, you know, being the first to bring fights

to Netflix where it becomes more accessible. Obviously, the deal with Paramount, more fans are going to be able to watch. And that's what the sport needs. And we need, you know, all the hype we can get so that the next generation of fighters go into the gym and we create future superstars that will see 10 to 15 years from now as they climb through the ranks and start fighting in the Olympics. That's what it's all about. And I think boxing's in a great place. All right. Well, we appreciate the hell out of you for committing to the sport, loving the sport and putting on massive spectacles for the sport. Cannot wait to see you go in there against Goliath, brother. That's judgment day is a great name. I mean, it is a great name. Anything

could happen. And I want to let you know, proud of you. dude. This is a cool thing. Good luck in there. Thank you guys. Thank you for having me. I'll see y'all. Keep crushing. You too, dude. And tell Frankie to fucking relax. We've got to fight. Easy. Turn it up, Frank. Turn it up. Pull punches.

Down it up. We need to kind of, yeah. Honestly, all right. Ladies and gentlemen, Jake Paul, we appreciate it. Hey, Jake. Frankie Sanchez caught him with one. Yeah. Massive rate. Do some big as shit. Series A in bowling market? Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah, he doesn't have to be getting punched by Frankie

Sanchez. Yeah. There's, especially with where that's headed. Yeah, what a weapon. Can we put the picture back up of who he's training with? All right. Just oxes. We had to get to a new, we had to get to a new.

I mean, AJ's basically a good photo of it. It's basically AJ. No, those guys. Look how big those dudes are. Dude, this pepper's always to the left. Yeah. It is. Oh, shit.

You need him down there. Sean Airman's on the right. I mean, what the fuck? There's weight classes for a reason. You know, like, there is a... It's insane. Looks like in Domic and Sue. Pop up.

On the far right. Look at Anthony Joshua, man. Anthony Joshua is one of the scariest dudes in the planet. I will say, Guy on Wright actually kind of looks like Jason Pierre Paul, who is back. Yeah, he's back. Congrats to JPP. Hell yeah. Two Bochamp.

Two Bochamp's back. Phil Rivers is back. Man, it's sort of feel good, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Boxing's back. Mm-hmm. I didn't want to distract Jake with any more ventures, but I think he should

Oculus boxing has a lot of upside Get in there I think it has a lot of upside It's a great workout It's a great work Chuck Bragano was thought Yeah That was the lowest level

Easiest guy I mean it's this time of season too Where like things like that Get gifted to older people And then videos will come out Of those older people test them Yeah It's very good time

It's forward into a TV That's kind of falling off right I think I saw a headline Something about Zuck has admitted defeat in the Metaverse or whatever. $81 million or something like that, I think? 87. The property people bought.

Where's that? You know. That's still very lucrative. Yeah, store it away for a little, wait a year. A lot of foreclose. About the foreclose in the Metaverse. I mean, people were getting mortgages out to buy property. $500,000.

In a fake place next to somebody else. It's like, what? Not just somebody else. Snoop Dog, baby. boom i think i forget who it was you could potentially live next to katie perry what were you get a guy fierre hang out well you go in and you put your things on and then you get on that little treadmill you walk out of the front door ready player one basically and then you turn to your right and it's like with snoop every morning yep okay which is sick and then you turn left and katie perry's

up there with uh mr buddrow uh the justin yeah our hobby true do so sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry All right, the previous leader of Canada. Sorry, sorry. And then you're able to walk and then Zuck's just out there doing rolling in the jujitsu. Yep. That's what I think they were selling. That's what people thought they were buying. Oh, yeah.

I'm not going to talk about it. It just goes to what you're just talking about last hour, about the fall of one of your television. These things are coming, but everyone thinks it's like tomorrow. That's just not a reality. So you say, hold on to your property in a matter of? I'm saying if you think you're going to be alive in a hundred years, I'd hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Pass it down to what he is.

There you go, exactly. Buy more. I would say for you. No, don't be, but I'd say for anyone already in there. No, you just hold. Hold for your great friend. Right now you sell, you're getting zero. So maybe in 50 years, 20 years, you have a chance to sell it for something.

But what is it that you have? Maybe nothing at all. And they won't tell the story, but maybe we will try someday. Boy, there's a lot of things that people try to get us to do business with. Was it NFT? they're trying to get you to do? NBA Top Shot you're talking about? We actually still have...

Oh yeah, that was amazing. You opened a pack on air. Yeah, which is just kind of... You became a billionaire, I thought. Well, if Zion can figure out this whole injury thing, there's a chance I can... He will. There was coins.

Oh, yeah. Big coin run. People were trying to get us to sell coins. Yeah, still going. Yeah, the NFT thing was happening. This thing was a thing that people were trying to get us into. It's like... It's good how dumb I am.

I'm like, I don't get it. that doesn't sound real. No, it's a meta universe. You have property in there, and you start selling property within the meta universe. I'm like, well, what the fuck am I?

What is it? It's just space in there. You want to have space in there, so then you can sub-lease your space, and then your space can be gatherings for your fans. Whatever the case, we'd like to pay you this amount of money to potentially put your name on some space in this thing.

And it's like, that's a lot of money, but I don't fucking know what that is. I don't. There could be unlimited space, right? Couldn't they just? Oh, yeah, create more. And that's what I said to the NFT guy.

I was like, This looks like a GIF. Can I get the GIF of this thing? No, no. You own the IP. You own it, they would say it. The NFT thing is going to be fascinating. There will be documentaries coming out within the next couple of years.

And I don't know. For a fact, I'm just assuming. Just about that business as a whole. Because people became billionaires off these NFTs. An artist for one thing, sure. But like those ape cards, the scared ape cards, that was one of the biggest ones. Board ape. Board ape, yeah.

And now those were selling for. for, you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars, and now they're worth pennies on the dollar. So, like, the documentary around that, just that one as a thing, let alone NFTs as a whole will be fascinating just because I am interested in the entire arc of it. Yeah, well, is it? How did it get that big?

Why did it become that big? And then why the fuck did it fall off if it was that big in the first place? And then there are people with billions, billions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars who made money off of these things. and that money just doesn't disappear so like how did they make that money and then what did they come and not only them then you can just move that right because nfti i guess coins all these coins that people were selling yes i think those are considered nfts as well but they were selling a bunch of those coins we got pitched a coin in a couple million dollars hey here's a couple

million dollars all you can do sell this coin like what the fuck is the coin it's a good thing you want to have it i'm like is it's it named after me well you're a show yeah it's not that good of a thing that if I had to guess who makes its value well there's only a certain amount of them yeah but what do they do enough there's only a few of them can I buy anything with it well you we could potentially try to get it access to be able to pay for something but other than that's just you have the ownership of something that is not very big that sounds fake to me but four or five million bucks right you see for this it's like no I don't fucking know what that is I would like one of these coins if I would like it and I don't want this

so I'm not going to do it. There was a run there of people taking advantage of shit. Oh, yeah. Happened this year to people that we know on the internet. Not that we know, no, people that we have seen on the internet. I mean, the most high profile one, as of recently, was the Hawk to a girl. The Hawk, too, a girl who, you know, was in that video and then had a podcast and things of that nature, and then she had one of those. You get offered.

I mean, the pitch is very, like, I felt, I felt bad. Yeah, I felt terrible because, like, me listening to it, I'm naturally a, uh, go fuck yourself guy. Like I am with suits mostly. So whenever somebody's pitching me something, I am naturally going to not like person. Okay, that's just what I'm going to do. So then they're going to have to win it through this entire thing. But if I sense you're an idiot and I think it's dumb and I don't understand it, there's no chance we're going to do anything.

I think it's documented. That'll come out. That's how I do business. And that might be why some of these people say terrible things anonymously about us to, you know, journalists and stuff because I sense that they were stupid and dinosaurs and treated them as such when that never has happened before. But whenever something is pitched and I don't understand it,

it's just, it's hard for me to want to jump in on it. But the pitch is very, I mean, it's like, hey, this is the work you got to do, this the amount of money you got,

we've done this with these people, this is the legitimate business. There is this that can happen. It's like, you can see how you get trapped up and all that shit. If it wasn't just for like a, no,

I don't, I'm fucking too stupid for that. Especially if the person's trying to get you. Like, if the person's trying to... There's a lot of good scam artists these days, too. A lot of good scam artists out there.

They got some good text messages and emails these days. Shout to Macfee. Learn more about that later. Just get the hell out of here. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change your life. Tone, come on, dude. Tone, Jesus Christ.

Toney! Hands down, hands on. I don't know when you guys get in a three-point stance or taking a delay game. It's the worst. Hold! Good to see you, Tom. Sick.

Great, Oudy. Yeah, where did you get that, man? Fanatics, they actually delivered in two days. Okay, so. Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Maybe your order goes to spam. Yeah, I checked it yesterday. Nope. They hear what you say.

Oh, fanatics? Yeah. He heard you talk about him throwing a pitch. That wasn't me. Yeah, that must be. I ordered a Michael Parsons jersey shirt. It was like 75 bucks. Came with a huge hole in the shoulder. And I was just like, I guess I just have to wear a long-sleeved shirt underneath this. Yeah, it'll be like fashion. Yeah, it's not. It's fucking annoying. And then now the threads are coming out. So before you know what, I'm just going to, that sleeve is going to come off.

But hey, one sleeve. Be a friend, tell him something nice. I change your life. We're doing this thing together. Great work this week, D-Bud. Great work this week, A-Q. You too, brother. Anything for the group?

Hell you. Army Navy game for America on three. America on three. One, two, three. America. Goodbye. Talk about stepping up. Bye!

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