The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1471 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 15 Recap, MNF Preview, Scottie Scheffler, Adam Schefter, Seahawks Kicker Jason Myers, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 15 of the NFL season including the NFC West being the dominant division, Philip Rivers almost l...eading the Colts to a massive upset win in Seattle, a couple massive injuries including Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons tearing their ACL's, they preview tonight's Monday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Steelers, and they go through some overreactions from around the internet. Joining the progrum to chat about his last season, his upcoming season, and being given the Jack Nicklaus award for PGA Player of the Year for the 4th time, is 4x Major winner, the best golfer on the planet, Scottie Scheffler. Next, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter joins the show to give updates on Patrick Mahomes, Micah Parsons, Davante Adams, if Phil Rivers is going to be the starter for the rest of the season, and the injury report for tonight's MNF game. Later, Seattle Seahawks K Jason Myers joins the progrum to chat about going 6/6 yesterday including a game winner against the Colts, being a Phil Rivers fan growing up, what the locker room in Seattle is like, Mike Macdonald as a Head Coach, kicking in the elements in Seattle, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbleyboe, the Thunderdome. On this magical overreaction Monday, December 15, 2025, this sports program begins now. Football! It's the greatest in week 15 of the NFL Sunday slate tied a record that the NFL was had for the most teams to come back with at least a 10-point deficit. It was magic and chaos across the entire slate. Brian McCarthy, the NFL PR, who answers his phone by Sunday. saying McCarthy here, and you say, wow, you're out of a movie. Well, the movie that he's from
Starting point is 00:00:34 is the NFL is the best league on earth. And every stat that he puts out says that six teams won in week 15 after trailing by at least 10. That ties a single week record. It was the Buffalo Bills who were down 21 zip. Actually had me put out a tweet that said, wow, belt to ass in Foxborough. It's the dawn of a new chapter in the AFC East. You could tell that Mike Vrable was telling the boys. Everybody's talking about Josh Allen, Josh Allen, the Buffalo Beals. The time is ours. We are the kings of this AFC East. 21 Zip, the entire world's going crazy. Travis Scott's going absolutely ham. Stefan Diggs is doing his thing. I thought the Patriots were about to catapult themselves into a different stratosphere. And then Josh Allen said,
Starting point is 00:01:16 please, is it cold as hell right now? Are we still the Buffalo Beals? Are you still in my world? Five straight touchdowns, they end up getting a huge win in what was a beautiful comeback, but they weren't the only ones. Seattle Seahawks saw a 10-point deficit. and came back. Obviously, we didn't expect that from their beautiful team. The Rams were able to do it. The Saints don't look now. Shuck might be an actual player. And the storylines coming out of Week 15 are special. There's five headlines that we'll hit here in a matter of a moment. The toxic tab was here at Boston Connor. Sorry, man. At Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Sorry, man. We'll have Adam Schaeffter on here in a little bit to hopefully give you a little bit of an update on what's happening around the Green Bay Packers. There's no hope. Everybody that's good on your team got injured yesterday. Yeah, basically. Anytime you lose four starters. you know, the loss is just secondary. So now it's just, hey, you know, band together. Getting the foxhole together and let's go win.
Starting point is 00:02:06 One half of the hammer, Cowboys AP Tone, Pittsburgh Steelers, host the Miami Dolphins. Tonight is three-point favorites. I think it's going to be an electrifying game if it's anything like the rest of week 15. Yeah, the dolphins have been really, really hot, and the Steelers obviously still playing for number one in the AFC North
Starting point is 00:02:21 after the Ravens victory over the Bengals yesterday. It's going to be an awesome one tonight. Steelers love Monday Night Football at home. They've won 22 straight at home. So that's on the line tonight. It's a big one. Yeah, T.J. Watt, missing. Obviously, last week there was a dry needling situation that took place
Starting point is 00:02:37 that ended with a partial lung, something. I don't know, a collapse, had emergency surgery. They're not ruling him out for the rest of the year for the playoffs. Definitely out for tonight. The Steelers record, whenever he's not playing, not good. To his record playing in the cold. Not good. Push comes to shove here.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The Miami Dolphins got up to Pittsburgh early and try to, you know, kind of combat the elements, get used to it. They went practice of Robert Morris, Bobby Moe, home of Wallet, which we all obviously know, a school in Pittsburgh. I believe the South Hills of Pittsburgh, not 100% sure. Nonetheless, cold as hell, they were getting after it. Saw some good snagged, saw some good pads thudding up, saw guys getting used to the cold weather they're going to have to deal with tonight. This is meaningful football time. Meaningful football time, two and the boys in Miami haven't been able to play well.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Tonight, can they continue to lurk? Can they continue to move in the AFC? Let's go to the other half of the hammer. Cowboys Bubba Gumpino. Gumpy, it's a hammer. Don't show tonight on Monday night football. Dolphins hot. Steelers, not. Your thoughts. Just got to keep pounding the rock. H.N. Ollie Gordon. Jalen Wright, last game over 100 yards.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Throw the ball 10 to 15 times to it. That's all we need. Here's a hembo stat. The dolphins rushing during their four-game win streak. 769 yards averaging 5.7 yards of tote. 42 first downs. 24 explosives on the ground. That's a lot of fun. A. Chan has become the guy around the league. And obviously, they have seven touchdowns through the rush game over the last four games. Will they be able to do that against his Pittsburgh Steelers team tone? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So when rookie first round pick, Derek Harmon is in the game, the Steelers' opponents are rushing for 95 yards a game. When he's out, 195 yards a game, he's questionable tonight. So it is a big, big difference. If Derek Harmon gets to go tonight, that will make a huge difference for the run defense. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler joining us looking very cool. South Florida, obviously native.
Starting point is 00:04:25 of Miami Dolphins fan amongst many other teams because he was a Dolphins fan and because he was a professional football player. He picked up numerous teams. This Dolphins team still lurking, Dee Butch. And with the Colts lost, Dolphins very much still lurking in the AFC. And you heard what Gump said, kind of a different team. When you think about the dolphins, you think about speed, you think about finesse, and a lot of people will call himself, whether you're a player, you cover the game. So this is a huge opportunity to kind of change that narrative around them. They've been running the hell out of the ball. We know the Steelers, they've been struggling against the run. Love the fact they went up there in practice. I don't know how many times you've
Starting point is 00:04:58 seen that. Then they didn't see a lot of sleeves or hoodies. I saw a lot of skin, some Vaseline on the arm, so I like that. What's the temperature tonight? 17. 17 degrees. Any precipitation? No. Okay, so it's going to be clear skies. I will say the snow makes it feel warmer. This is somebody that is from the cold. Anytime it's snowy outside, it's like, wow, it feels warmer, even if it's not. So whenever it's just brisk and cold and no snow, you think yourself, wow, it's cold as hell, and it's not even fun. Like, I can't even kind of see it or anything like that. Hopefully the dolphins are able to battle. Hopefully we get a good game tonight. We should expect one with how this week 15 slate has been. Now, it's time to get to the
Starting point is 00:05:35 top five, top five, tough five, tough, tough, top five headlines coming out of week 15 of the season, driven by ram truck. And what you do know about ram trucks is the hemi v8 is back. It's fired up and running to go. Motor trend has chosen to ram 1500 as it's truck of the year. Wow. Wow, we're at awards. That is. Motor Trinus. Ram 1500's truck of the year for 2025. Congrats to them. Ram Trucks also back on the track returning the NASCAR Craftman Truck Series for the 2026 season, which obviously we talk about all the time. Now, I don't want to talk about racing too much because the boys might take it in a different way because they watch Brad Pitt
Starting point is 00:06:14 race this weekend and all of a sudden we might have some new G1 fans around the Thunderdown, which I certainly did not expect. But let's get to the top five headlines of Week 15 of NFL season. Listen, we're in prime football season. We're in meaningful football season. We're in the time of year where football teams are playing their absolute best. So your team's going to lose a game potentially. Your team, it's not over until it's over. If you're still in it, it's okay if you lose. So if you're the Patriots and you lose to the Buffalo bills after having a 21 point lead, it's okay. That's going to happen. A lot of good football teams. What you can have happened is you can't be deemed from the playoffs and go.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Listen, new teams have been added to the playoffs gone list. Now, obviously, Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, commanders, giants, Falcons, Saints, and Cardinals had already said, what are we playing for? Absolutely nothing, maybe the future. Add in the Bengals. And I'll tell you what, with this Bengals team. Oh, man. They get their ass beat by the Baltimore Ravens, still lurking in the AFC, the Baltimore Ravens.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But from what Joe Burrough said last week, where Joe Burrow was saying, like, what's the purpose of doing? Period. This kind of sucks, man. I'm not having any fun. It's kind of stink. I don't know. Am I a football player anymore? Then you think to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. We need you to be enjoying this.
Starting point is 00:07:35 We need you to be loving us. Also, you're the quarterback of an NFL franchise Cincinnati Bengals who have bet good on you. Can't have you wondering in the middle of the season whether or not this is what you're supposed to be doing. Then he had the opportunity to get on the field an AFC North Battle against Baltimore Ravens. Another team that's kind of been in a year and make up for it. Maybe start having some fun? Nah. He stunk.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Zero funs. They stunk. They get absolutely obliterated by the Baltimore Ravens. Hal Van Nuoy makes a heady decision to get the ball out of his old-ass hands, and they take a pick six all the way back. But the Ravens absolutely thump the Bengals. And going into the game,
Starting point is 00:08:08 we wondered if Joe Burrow liked football. Now we know there's no way he can enjoy anything about this. So, Dee, but my question for you about this Bengals team is like, hey, whenever you sign Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to number one wide receiver contracts, and you pay Joe Burrow. And it doesn't seem as if you're investing in the defense at all. And your offensive line moves have never really worked.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Will you ever win with this particular recipe? Everybody that knew ball going on his season and said, probably not. Like in the history of ball, this is not a way to win. But if you don't win, life is not fun. Is Joey B. at the situation now where because they suck and because there's no Super Bowl dreams and aspirations, he's not enjoying what he's doing? Or do you think maybe Joe Burroughs a human and there's some stuff going on in his life?
Starting point is 00:08:53 the fact that they're ass that maybe it's combining right now for not a great time of his life and we shouldn't worry about what the future holds for Joe Burrow. This is just a chapter or an error that we'll move on. I'm not worried about Joe Burrow yet. I'm not worried about his future. You mentioned it. They are humans. They are dealing with a bunch of things. But when you are a franchise quarterback, you know, people don't necessarily care about that unless it's, you know, something huge, a huge tragedy that everybody knows about. If you're a franchise guy, you know, you're getting paid a ton of money. You talked about the receivers getting paid. Joe Burrow was a big part the receivers getting paid as well.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Now, people in charge of putting the team together, you can still have to put the team out there that can get out there and compete. So to be on this list, to be eliminated before week 15 is even over, that's never where you want to be with one of the best young quarterbacks in the National Football League. But I'm not worried about the future of him. I don't think we knew Budda was going to be in the building. I think that had a huge effect on the game.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Obviously, Lamar showed up in the AFC North battle, but I hate to see Joe Bro at this point in the season pop. Yeah, and I don't want to get it. It does seem like he's potting, but we would like to let him know. We're big fans, Joey. We love you in the football world. We appreciate everything you've done. But it feels like with the way that team is constructed,
Starting point is 00:10:02 we didn't know if you're ever going to be able to win a Super Bowl or not. So we hope that's not necessarily what is keeping your happiness alive. We hope it's the process. We hope it's you becoming the greatest, which you certainly can. And maybe I don't want to throw it out there, but we've seen some people in the past have been going through some things, go down to a rainforest in Central, South America, and come back with a whole new mindset.
Starting point is 00:10:21 and win an MVP and do it again and win another MVP. So whatever it is, Joey, we hope you find it again. The Cincinnati Bengals are officially gone from the playoffs, as are the Vikings after a huge win. I mean, JJ McCarthy goes for 250 yards. He's gritting in the end zone and prime time playing his best ball, still missing by a mile on some. But even admitting that he needs to get a lot better in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:10:44 So hopefully the future is brighter for this Minnesota Vikings team. A lot of important games left for them. Yeah. For him, because these are valuable, very valuable reps for J.J. McCarthy. Yes, I think very valuable reps down the stretch here for this Minnesota Vikings team. But what we're saying is there's no meaningful games, actually, because they are gone from the playoffs. On that note, the Dallas Cowboys who lose in prime time to nine, they are damn near gone from the playoffs. What is everything that needs to happen for the Cowboys?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, so they have about a 1% chance to still make the playoffs. So not dead yet. They just need the Eagles to lose all of their games, and they need. to win all of their, the Cowboys need to win all of their games. So, we'll see, hey, Stranger Things have happened. Yeah, Stranger Things, not a bad show from what I've been told, never watched it. Stranger Things certainly
Starting point is 00:11:28 do happen in the NFL, but the Dallas Cowboys damn near, gone! From the playoffs, and what the fuck is a walkie-talkie doing in the owners? Now, they're saying it's for direct communications to the sideline, for medical, so is every owner have a walkie-talkie that's not trackable or
Starting point is 00:11:44 anything like that in communication? Is that going directly to that guy with the cowboy hat? Is that a walkie-talkie strictly to the big cowboy hot medical guy? Nonetheless, we know the Jones family took some big swings this year. We know that they got rid of a superstar bona fide who is no longer finishing the season with the Green Bay Packers because of a believed to be torn ACL, which we are all hoping not to be a torn ACO and Micah, make a couple trades, do their thing, lose the nine in prime time, and now they're damn near gone. And then also the team that is eliminated from playoffs, which
Starting point is 00:12:18 He's very abnormal at this stage of the season. The K&C Chiefs are officially gone. From the playoffs. Yeah, they are. Which leads to the number four headline, a decade of dominance. A dynasty delayed or deleted? Well, this dynasty have to have a new chapter. Will this dynasty be able to continue for another 10 years, maybe another 15 years?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Will Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes be able to carry it from one chapter to the next? the New England Patriots. Remember the story of the New England Patriots. There was a 10-year gap between Super Bowl wins. Now, there was two Super Bowl losses in between those 10 years, both to Eli Manning and the New York Giants. Eli Manning probably getting into the Hall of Fame for those two in 2007 and 2011. But 2004 to 2014 is a 10-year gap where the Patriots didn't win a Super Bowl. They're still considered a dynasty. Will that be what happens to the Kansas City Chiefs? Is that what we're staring down or, or Rich John's a little older.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Travis Kelsey, obviously, maybe at the end of his entire thing. Andy Reid, it's talked about every single year. Is he going to keep going? Patrick Mahomes, he's going to be able to continue to just put the team on his back? Or are they going to be able to reload and kind of renavigate what the future looks like for a potential
Starting point is 00:13:37 dynasty? Or are they deleted and are they done forever? Oh, no. That's a question we have to ask because they didn't make the playoffs for the first time in 11 years. You're talking about record-breaking stuff. Throughout the history of the NFL teams have made it to the playoffs consecutive amount of times. Patriots obviously won forever. The Chief's number two team in the longest running consecutive playoff run. And then we see one pick from Darwin James right in front of Travis
Starting point is 00:14:02 Kelsey. And all of a sudden, it's over completely, officially. And the Internet was waiting for their demise. The Internet was celebrating in all of our faces about the Chiefs being dead. But we've seen this before with another dynasty. Now, granted the Patriots, Once again, they continued to go. They continued to do their thing. Chiefs missing the playoffs. Are they dead? Is it done?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Or is it just simply delayed con men? Yeah, definitely not done. Maybe delayed. There's a chance you could argue, you know, maybe the Mahomes-Reed dynasty together is done. You know, that's the one thing that is the glaring difference between the two. Andy Reed is basically how old Bill Belichick was at the end, you know, right now. 67.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, they probably have 10 more years. As long as Mahomes is there, their dynasty will never. never be done. But it's definitely going to change a little bit. And I would assume that maybe they saw the writing on the wall. You know, not many teams release a 10-part docu-series before a season, you know, to commemorate the three Super Bowls. They went
Starting point is 00:14:58 to straight, the three, they've already won as well. But definitely sad. Anytime it goes out with a player on their shield, you know, Mahomes getting carried out. The vibe changes. And it is a bummer to see. You never want to see anything end like that. Yeah. And if you think about the beginning of this
Starting point is 00:15:14 entire run that the Chiefs had back in 2014. Life was a lot different then. You remember the Ice Bucket Challenge got launched then? Remember Flappy Bird? Oh yeah. Great game. Flappy Bird was in too many people's phones taking up too much time of people's lives. The person that created it was like, we got to get rid of this game. Deleted the game. People who had phones that accidentally still had Flappy Bird on it for some reason because they didn't update the software were being sold online for like hundreds of thousands of dollars because they were an ancient artifact basically. This flap. That was a little. That was a in 2014.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Graduate high school then. High school graduated for Boston. Connor his second time being getting that done. Happy was the song, Shake it off from Taylor Swift. You think she was even thinking about Travis Kelsey whenever she was singing? Shake it off. I mean, 2014, a long time
Starting point is 00:16:00 ago. A lot has changed in the world and now we're sitting out of time, wondering if this Chief's team's going to be able to continue to go in the future. Yeah, for the future, when you look at it, I saw a tweet yesterday about, you know, the Chiefs have a lot of work they need to do to this roster, and they are 31st in the league in cap space next year.
Starting point is 00:16:16 They are $35 million over the cap for next year currently. So with all that needs to potentially be fixed with the Mahomes injury that happened yesterday and then the cap situation, it might be tough for a couple. I mean, you still have Patrick Mahomes. On that note about the Patrick Mahomes injury, we're at that time of the year,
Starting point is 00:16:33 and we have been here for a while, where an injury to the wrong position can derail everything going forward. Ladies and gentlemen, it is my, not honor the opposite, dishonor, dishonor to say number three headline coming out of week 15 NFL Sunday slate is
Starting point is 00:16:51 injuries or dooky, okay? There's no other way to describe it. When you talk about dukey, you're talking about absolute shite. You're talking about nothing good. You're talking about negativity at the highest degree. You're talking about dukey, man. Runny, stinky, absolute crappy,
Starting point is 00:17:08 dukey is what these injuries are. And if you were falling along on Redstone or all the different games, these injuries all took place within about a two-minute period. Micah goes down, Patrick goes down, and then DeBonte has sniper to his hamstring. You're talking about three megastars who have had record-breaking years in record-breaking season
Starting point is 00:17:26 and record-breaking careers for these particular teams, all going down in a matter of two, three minutes. Micah Parsons, that was nasty. A little hyper-extension situation whenever he was just heating up and becoming a closer. Ty, your negativity about this particular injury has scared me a little bit, Mike has become this damn important to this defense so damn quickly.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, without doubt. I mean, you know, yeah, the Packers are still a good team, but, like, he is the difference maker. He has eight and a half sacks in the fourth quarter. Like, there's a reason they were calling, you know, playing Enner Sandman and calling him Mariana Rivera because the Packers haven't really been blowing anybody out this year. Like, the offense has been doing enough, and then, boom, in comes Micah to close out the game. And it's not just him.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I mean, it's no question. If you watch the games, he makes everybody better. and you know is it one of those things where am I all doom and gloom do I think that it's just completely done with now no I don't believe that the Packers are still nine four and one but it is very hard to imagine seeing him being out for the year like now do I think they can make a deep run in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl like no I don't necessarily believe that that is still on the table they could still do it but Michael Parsons is the best player on their team and one of the best players in the NFL and for it to happen at this point in the season when they're just
Starting point is 00:18:44 starting to get healthy like it's a backbreaker uh green bay packers obviously team we thought could win a super bowl right now odds on favor to win a super bowl los angeles rams they lose their touchdown machine their touchdown factory their devante adams sniper while running a go route middle of the game obviously didn't look good anytime somebody pulls up with a hammie obviously not good when you're 30 some years old what are your thoughts here debuts on them losing Devante, still have Puka. He's obviously insane. Puka is insane.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Still have Tyron Williams, still have Blake Corum, still have multiple tight ends, even guys that I've never heard of making plays for him. But losing Devonte, this added weapon, not only down in goal line, but in third down and in red zone, is this going to be a big enough hit to derail the Los Angeles Rams or what should we expect?
Starting point is 00:19:31 I don't think it'll derail them. I think they'll still finish fairly strong. The thing about them is they've kind of changed throughout this system and morph this offensive to using a bunch, a lot more tight end. So a lot of 13 personnel, so that's only one wide receiver on field. So now Puka can obviously be that one wide receiver, even though
Starting point is 00:19:47 Devonte was that one wide receiver and 13 personnel for the majority of the season. But when you have another superstar like Puka who would still demand that coverage, still get the production, I think they will still be okay, especially with the run game and the defense. And hopefully with this soft tissue injury, he can be back
Starting point is 00:20:03 full goal by the playoffs. So this isn't a huge of a blow. low as these other injuries on this graphic. We'll stop by with Schaefter here at about 1240 to kind of see everything he's hearing. Devante a little older now, though. Yep.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Any muscle injury, obviously, in theory, in theory, the older you are. But he's going to hop in that immortal chamber? Yeah. Is that what's happening out there? Right now.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Probably slept in there. In his game, you know, it's not like he's a, you know, Christian Watson or like a burner who he got hurt too, by the way. You know, Jameson. Yeah, William. A lot of injuries over there.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So his game. His finesse and making big time catches, reading coverages, being that matchup in a low-red area. So I think when he is back in there full goal, he'll still be the Devante that we know. And then obviously Patrick Mahomes is the injury that we chatted about to even start this entire injuries are Duky. I mean, this is the face of the NFL. This is the man leading, you know, a dynasty right now in front of our eyes and our face. Before he was like 27 years old, he had already built up a goat-type legacy, a goat-type resume, a multiple times Super Bowl champion, always remained a human.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You know, everybody started hating him, obviously, because he's Patrick Mahomes, he's on top of the world, still would have beers with the boys, still kind of do his thing, was trying to live his life while being under the microscope of being the guy who's leading the entire, the biggest league on Earth. He put out a tweet, obviously, that was like, hey, I'll be back stronger than ever, but whenever you see these types of stats, you understand it we're in, we're watching greatness happen. And he said he'll be back stronger than ever.
Starting point is 00:21:32 don't know why this had to happen, and not going to lie, it hurts. But all we can do now is trusting God and attack every single day over and over again. Thank you, Chief's Kingdom, for always supporting me. And for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers, I'll be back stronger than ever. And we love that type of work ethic. We love that type of mindset. That is why he is, who he is. But this sucks for a league, Degbuck.
Starting point is 00:21:54 This sucks for a league that we lose, Patrick Mahams. Whether you love him or you hate him, when he's on TV, he's must watch. Yeah, you want 15 playing. You want him in the playoffs. see and play. I mean, it's super unfortunate not only for this season, but we don't know how next season looks now for him or the Kansas City Chiefs, but
Starting point is 00:22:09 unbelievable hit to the National Football League. It's crazy. He still hasn't and won't take a snap, you know, being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in his career. And that list you just put up with him having five more wins at this point in his career. That's ridiculous. If he's done,
Starting point is 00:22:26 let's say, obviously he's not done, this dynasty, if this chief's dynasty, if this dynasty is over, like we talked about a little bit go, that'll still go down. It's probably a Mount Rushmore dynasty when it comes in the NFL. He's got, I believe he's got two kids under the age of four or two right now. I mean. But he'll be back. He's got nine
Starting point is 00:22:42 months till September. So that's right on time, right? He'll be back. I agree, but let's just think about the human. Like, hey, Mama, Mahomes, good luck out there, man. Yeah. Got a guy. Not that, you know, he's MVP. He's a starting quarterback in the NFL. Obviously, a lot of time
Starting point is 00:22:58 is a lot to do that. But now he's not going to be able to move. I mean, that is, there's a lot of stress. Just like whenever we're talking about Joey Burrow, it's not just like, hey, in a facility, it's like, hey, we got humans here, not just a video game. So whenever you talk about everything else happening with Patrick Mahomes, we're only pulling for him for the good of the league. Yeah, and I think, you know, like, he's, I mean, he's obviously been banged up before and I don't know about college, high school, all that kind of stuff. But like, this is the first time he's had an injury of this magnitude, you know, same with like Micah, like those guys where all the sudden, for the most part, you stay healthy throughout your entire career. And then you get something like this where it's like, hey, you're going to be down for nine. months like that learning how to deal with something like that when you've never had to deal with
Starting point is 00:23:36 it before like you can understand how it's quite the blow hey we'll miss you mohams to be by far the longest break he's had i know it's rehab and it sucks the injuries but like every season he's gone at least to the fc championship or the super bowl so like that's a much short and offseason so now you got to the offseason starts now and you know that's be the longest by far that he's ever had a lebron run yeah yeah i remember lebron was making it to like the eastern conference finals every year for like 10 straight years and then somehow shortest off season and doing it again going forward. Patrick Mahomes had to do that. And this year he was running more than ever.
Starting point is 00:24:10 A lot more. Running more than ever. Hitting people more than ever. And that rarely happens as a goat's career goes forward. You know, normally as the goat goes forward, the contact gets less. This year he was running more, hitting more, getting hit more. And it's kind of a crazy how it's all gone. But to your point about the rest, I mean, recovery is not rest. It sucks. What he's about to get through sucks. All these injuries, every injury you hear about, all you hear is a timetable, like, hey, nine months, he'll be back. Hey, this guy should be back by the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:24:41 From that point of injury to when they come back, sucks. That old thing sucks. Hurts, the amount of time that it takes, the monotony of just having to do this little tiny things every single day. Very rarely gets talked about. We try to point it out. Patrick Mahom's life is about to suck to get back being healthy, as is obviously Micah,
Starting point is 00:25:02 is every other injury that we see take place. So all we can say is Godspeed. Yeah, and we talked about the cap there for a second. He actually might get a pretty sweet extension, which is going to maybe kind of motivate him even more in the middle of this offseason that you can continue to work. Yeah, maybe he gets that immortal. Maybe he gets a couple of those in his backyard.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Creates a lot of cap space, maybe gets a receiver, maybe one back from Miami. I don't know, just things that could have it. See, Tyreek. Hmm. You okay? I was just thinking about him. I'm not, I'm not getting, I don't want to get too negative about it, but like, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Well, it's like, I don't want to say it. Joey B. saying he's not having fun. It's like the way you guys built the team, we all thought you guys weren't going to be able to win, right? Like Tyree Kill, when you took the bag to go to Miami, the thought was, you're not, you're not going to win. No. That was not a thought. That was kind of the thought. No.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Hey, you're leaving a dynasty to go get paid down there. You're not, you're not probably not going to win as much. And then there's like, well, I want to win. It's like, well, we kind of all, we all knew that this is kind of what the case was. It's just like Max Crosby. Like Max, Max knows they're not going to win, right? Like that is kind of the thing. He just continues to show up, which we massive respect.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Miles Garrett, you know, if he next year says, like, I'm tired of not winning. It's like, well, we told you, you knew. You even wrote it. Yeah, you wrote. Like you're not going to win. So it was like, there are certain situations where it's like you kind of, I don't want to say sacrifice, but you did kind of acknowledge that this was not going to be kind of with each other. And then it kind of all happens.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But once again, want everybody to be happy. Want everybody have cake and eat it too? Speaking of the number two headline out of week 15, the legend of old man rivers. Hey, Phil. Thank you, man. Proud of you, Phil. I am proud of you, Phil. I'm very proud of you, Phil.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Not just us, obviously the boys in which he coaches down there in Alabama, the St. Michael's super duper football team that has made back-to-back playoffs. Them watching Uncle Phil coach Old Man Rivers scores first touchdown in five years in an NFL game as he finds Josh Dines over the middle. They have an incredible lead. Wait a second or the Indianapolis coach and Phil Rivers all the way back. This guy fell down, got back up. He looked agile. Maybe the most agile grandpa. in all of football and after the game whenever he gave a quote that I think everybody needs to hear, I think the baby face turned for Phil Rivers was in full
Starting point is 00:27:40 effect. A lot of people burying the quotes for signing Phil Rivers. Now, once again, I would like to reiterate the fact I am a Cam Newton fan. Always have been. It's because I watch him play live. I think anybody that watch Cam Newton play or had to play against Cam Newton. Yep, my teammate too. Play with him.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Exactly. He says Cam Newton's a lot of say whatever he wants about football. Cam Newton is football. He can do whatever he wants. The whole thing about is Cam Newton a better quarterback than Phil Rivers is a wild conversation to have because I don't know if Cam Newton just knows the entire Shane Steichen offense, which week 15 in the middle of a playoff run, I don't know if it's the right time to put somebody in that doesn't know the offense. Now, was Riley Leonard who's been in the building all year, who's very athletic,
Starting point is 00:28:20 was he a better option than Phil Rivers? I think that argument is certainly viable. But somebody that doesn't know the offense coming in in the middle of what the Colts are thinking and hoping is a playoff run, Doesn't seem sound to me. It sounds like you live in a video game world as opposed to real life world where you don't just drop into a building and then download the offense and then you're on the same page as everybody so that you can operate a football team efficiently.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Matt Ryan and the Colts had problems for these entire time because he couldn't learn the offense or the verbiage and then the offense aligned couldn't and it was an absolute catastrophe. So bringing in Phil Rivers felt like a move the Colts were like, hey, we're not giving up on the year and we need somebody that's able to fucking do our office. offense and do our things. And also, somebody that commands a little bit of respect, you know, defense, offense, special teams, everybody in the building. Like, hey, we like that guy. And also a guy who happens to be doing something from a coaching standpoint that is incredibly inspirational. Listen to this quote from the post game from Phil Rivers.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Hopefully, you know, certainly I think of my sons and those ballplayers, you know, that I'm in charge of at the school, that they'll say, like, crap, coachman's scared. You know what I mean? It's like, shoot, sometimes you, there is doubt, and it's real. And you, again, you can, you can, the guaranteed safe bet is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens. You know, and so, yeah, I hope that in that sense, that it can be a positive to some young boys, you know, or young people. It doesn't be boys, but. Yeah, it was, Phil.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Oh, yeah. Anybody can do nothing as the legend. Ted Williams. said, and then him going on there, go for it, and the boys seeing it, his kids seeing it, and also all of us getting a chance to see that. It was a special thing, a beautiful thing, and almost won it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Blake Groupie, that's a 60-yard field goal with less than a minute left to put the Colts in the lead. That's the longest field goal in the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Blake Groupie, this big. This guy is a monster. Groupie, shout out to you coming back to the state of Indiana and making a big-time kick for us. He walked right on the field, too.
Starting point is 00:30:28 There's no question. It was fourth down, and there was probably a little bit of an indecisiveness, fourth and three. What are we going to do? Groupie just walked his ass onto the field. Shane Syke and saw it and had to go, well, daggummit, I guess we're going for this field goal. He puts it through. Sam Darnel gets a big return from their special teams. Then they make a couple plays.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And then Jason Myers puts his sixth field goal through the uprights. And the Seahawks beat the Colts 18 to 16. But the story for me coming out of this is not only Seahawks are a damn good football. team. And Jason Myers is unbelievable. He leads the league in field goals made this year. He's going to be all pro and a pro bowler. He's a special talent out there for Seattle. But also, the Indianapolis coach didn't give up. They showed up. And Phil Rivers, obviously, the arm isn't what it used to be. Made a couple big throws whenever we had to. And they protected his ass. And his messaging about, you know, you're a lot of go for it in this life. If you could
Starting point is 00:31:20 have something was special. I'll remember yesterday for a long time. Yeah, man, I really, really wanted to win, obviously for a ton of reasons. But Phil, for him to go out. something that I know I've never seen before. Somebody take five years off and they actually come out there and have to play. And he was a full control. Like the first drive, he was up, you know, checking with seven, you know, eight seconds on the clock, you know, changing plays.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Obviously his arm, it was what I expected, I guess, to see from his arm wasn't it driving down the field a ton, but he made plays and he had us in position to win a game in a hostile environment against a very good football team. So I'm encouraged for him. And I think this definitely gives us the best chance to compete going forward with, you know, all of the
Starting point is 00:31:58 available quarterbacks that are out there right now. You talk about a very good football team. Let's just talk about the number one headline coming out of week 15 in our eyes. The NFC West is the NFL's best. This group out here is outrageous. Seattle Seahawks, obviously not on their home field advantage. This dude, no laces, sick, looks so cool. This dude, very good at football.
Starting point is 00:32:18 McDonald is defense, unbelievable. A lot of people are saying you needed a 50-some-yard field goal to beat the Indianapolis Colts who are playing Phil Rivers. Colts are a good football team. Yeah, Colts are a good football team. And Phil knows everything that's going on. The Los Angeles Rams, outrageous. Matthew Stafford had an MVP-like year.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And then the San Francisco 49ers, Brock Purdy's doing his dance. Brock Perry's pump-faking 20 yards down the field. San Francisco 49ers obviously beat the Tennessee Titans. Everybody's doing that. But this Niners team with Christian McCaffrey with Brock Purdy, even though they're without Warner and Bose on the defensive side, it's like, are the Niners going to make a run at the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Feels like everybody but the Cardinals and the NFC West can do that. And this has happened in the past. Whenever the NFC West has been absolutely dominant, they have shown up as a Super Bowl champion. Yeah, 2021, the 4-5-6 seeds were the Rams, Cardinals, and San Francisco 49ers. So it is one of those things where you would think, okay, maybe the division will cannibalize itself, but rather instead, you know, the best of the best, the team that won the division, the Rams ended up going on that Super Bowl run and winning the Super Bowl against the Bengals. Yeah, so there's a chance here that the NFC West does.
Starting point is 00:33:28 it again and I would say as a coach team that had to play Seahawks this past weekend and we got the Niners on Monday not football we're gonna find out if this NFC West is for real feels like the NFC West is problematic AFC West also very good at the football AFC East has a couple teams at the top with the one lurking into Miami Dolphins AFC North everybody considers that to be the trashiest division in ball the AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars in the league congrats down there in Duvall and Texans are also problematic number one defense in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Texans actually have better odds to win the Super Bowl than the Jaguars do right now. That's because I think the Texans defense is number one in the league. And I don't know if everybody believes in Trevor Lawrence, even though he goes for six touchdowns yesterday, five through the sky. They are for real. NFC North, things have changed now with some injuries. And then the NFC South, who's going to punch their ticket to the playoffs is really the entire question.
Starting point is 00:34:23 So that's top five headlines coming out of the NFL. Now let's talk about a headline that we're about to create. in another sport that we absolutely love. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the greatest golfer on Earth. Said that weird. The greatest golfer on earth. Ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Sheffler.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yay! Scottie, how are you, buddy? All good. How are you guys doing? Dude, amazing. Great to see you. How's life? You look good. You look clean. You look young. You look like you're rejuvenated. How's life for Scottie Sheffler right now? Yeah, life is good. Yeah, clean shaving this morning.
Starting point is 00:34:58 doing well, enjoying some time at home, but get ready, you know, gearing back up for the season to start in January. I don't want to be, you know, just bring up negative things. Texas, not in a college football playoff. Dallas Cowboys eliminated from the playoffs. Okay, I don't want to say football didn't show up for you this year, but you show up for everybody every time you get on a course. And we have the distinct honor to tell you.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I believe it's a surprise, even though you should probably already expect this to come. Congratulations, man. You have been named the Jack Nicholas Award winner for the best PGA tour player voted on by your peers for the fourth consecutive time. You're the first person to win it for consecutive times since Tiger Woods. Can you please tell me a little bit about the Jack Nicholas Award and what this means to you whenever it's voted on by your peers as opposed to maybe outside of golf? Yeah, I mean, that's really cool. I definitely did not expect that coming on here today. but you know it's it's a cool honor it's when you're able to receive the vote of your peers
Starting point is 00:36:02 I think that's something that's really special you know that means a lot to me is the guys I'm playing against week and week out to for them to vote for me to be player of the year something that's really special and that really does it means a lot to me tough to put into words what it's like to to win it for the fourth time I definitely never imagined that but it was a great season I was I was hoping to be able to win the award again and so I'm you know very fortunate to receive the vote of my peers and Yeah, it's pretty exciting. Yeah, it feels like they put the C on your chest.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You know, that's kind of what this feels like. I know you guys aren't a team or anything like that, but it feels like you've been voted by your peers to be the one. And anytime we see you playing your must watch television, but this past season, it felt like, I don't know, and if you have, let me know. If you started smoking weed, I would like to smoke weed with you. But it did feel like there was a time last year,
Starting point is 00:36:53 you started like being a little bit more comfortable with being the face of the sport, maybe being the face of the PGA. I think back to, you know, whenever you gave your full answer, very transparent about, like, what is this all for? Like, what is this whole thing? And then I think when you were giving answers, you started being a little bit more open than maybe in years past. It felt like you were, I don't want to say, too humble on a microphone, but it did feel
Starting point is 00:37:15 like you didn't really want to be a voice. You more so wanted to just be a player. Have you felt like, hey, I'm the face of a sport? I should talk a little bit more, or have you just gotten more comfortable with that? the situation you're in. And I don't know if that question makes sense or if you are smoking weed or not still. Definitely not smoking weed. Okay. But if you do, I would like to do that with you and on a golf course. No, I mean, that's a good question. I think the amount of time I've been put in front of a microphone over the last couple of years has been a lot more than
Starting point is 00:37:48 the years before that. And so I think just being in the spotlight having to do press conferences each week, stuff like that. I think I'm just in front of a microphone more. And so I think even the guys in the media will get tired of asking me the same questions because I'm going to give them the same answers. Most of the answers don't change that much. And so every now and then I'll get an interesting question and I'll try and elaborate on something. But I definitely don't think of myself as the face of the sport or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:38:14 You know, I'm just trying to be myself. I love playing golf. I love being able to compete. And that's what I love to do. And hopefully I'll be able to do it for a long time. but for the time being, going to enjoy it. And then, yeah, when I get asked a question, I try to answer it as honestly as possible,
Starting point is 00:38:28 but I'm outside of that, I don't really think about it too much. All right, well, you are the face of sport, and we're lucky as hell that that is the case. And with how much you play, we're very thankful. And the PGA is certainly thankful as well. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Scotty, obviously winning this four straight times, you have done a lot already in your career.
Starting point is 00:38:45 So when you come into seasons now, do you continue to have goals to, in your mind, have a successful season? and is one of those goals this year potentially to get your career Grand Slam at the U.S. Open at Shinnecock, I believe is where it's at. Yeah, I would say that going into years and going, when you look at my career, or when I look at my career, I have what I would call dreams and aspirations, but I'm not one of those guys that sits out to beginning the year and says, hey, I want to be, I want to have four wins at the end of the year. I want to have, you know, be top 10 in a certain category or anything like that. I try to get the most out of myself each day. and I think when you're preparing to go out and play,
Starting point is 00:39:23 the majors are always in the back of your head. I think those are the tournaments that mean the most to us as players. But at the end of the day, when I'm at home practicing, I'm just trying to focus on the things that I can focus on and get prepared to go out and play. The thing that is most important to me is my preparation. I want to be able to stand up on the first tee and tell myself I did every last thing that I could do in order to play well,
Starting point is 00:39:42 and now it's time to go out and compete. So sometimes it feels as almost as if my preparation and my practice can be more stressful than going out and play. playing. It's going to almost be more freeing just because I feel like when I'm at home, you know, that's when the real work is done. Hey, that's how all the goats talk, by the way. Practice supposed to be harder than the game because you need to be comfortable and
Starting point is 00:40:02 confident whenever it's time for the game. And it feels like obviously there's no situation on a course that you haven't been fully prepared for. People talk about your spin, your distance control, all these other things. Tie is a question for you. Yeah, speaking of all that, Scotty, when you go into the offseason, because I think people who they watch you week over week. A lot of times it'll be like, oh, Scotty had his C game this weekend and he's still got a top five. And then when you have your A game, you're a Terminator
Starting point is 00:40:28 and no one can touch you. Like, is there anything going into the offseason where you said like, hey, I specifically need to get better with my wedges or, you know, with my woods? Or is that not really how you approach, you know, when you practice in the off season? That's a good question. I always have in the off season, I always have one sort of point of emphasis that I'm looking at. And so depending on the seasons, you know, some years it's been, I wanted to get stronger in the gym. Some years it's been I want to improve my diet. Other years it's been my putting or creating more shots going into the green. I always have kind of that one area that I've really put an extra emphasis on, but I'm always trying to work on all aspects of the game.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I mean, golf's one of those games where you're just, you're trying to perfect a game that is impossible to perfect, and no matter what, you can always be trying to get better. but I've never really been the guy that has completely revamped his swing or completely changed something. I think in our game, we're always just looking for those small incremental improvements and doing those little things in order to improve. And the margins out on tour, I feel like, are so small these days. You know, you've got guys that have so much talent and are so highly competitive. You're always just looking for that little bit of an edge.
Starting point is 00:41:35 What was the point of emphasis this offseason, if you don't mind telling us? Kind of getting my strength back and my body back where it needs to be. You know, last offseason with the hand injury, kind of. to set me back a little bit and going into the year, I felt like I battled a little bit more staying healthy than I would have liked to. And so going into this offseason, I was trying to get back in the gym, do a lot more recovery stuff than I would normally do, and really try and get some of the inflammation out of my body and continue to get stronger. Oh, we're going to be wearing skin tight clothes. No, no, no. Yeah, let's get the rim. Let's get six back out there. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:08 I mean, it's funny. Like, you want to get stronger, but you also don't want to completely change the fabric of the things that I've done. You know, it's like if in golf, it's such a fine line between, you know, trying to improve, but also not kind of removing that DNA. And so my body's been a certain way for the last four or five years. And I don't want to drastically change that. But I want to continue to get healthier. I want to make sure that I'm putting myself in a position where I can try and play this
Starting point is 00:42:31 game for a long time. And, you know, that's kind of been the focus this off season, especially the last, you know, I completely understand. I ate and drank terribly for a long time. It got me into the NFL, though. Not me in the NFL. So then in the offseason, I'm like, I feel like I shouldn't be this fat. This can't be good.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But then I'm like, but this is what got me here. Let's not change. What's not broke or whatever. Let's not fix what's not broke or whatever. And then I realized once I got in the shape, turns out you do get better. And, you know, those things. So, you know, I can appreciate the fact of like wanting to change, but we can't get rid of what we already have. On that note, it feels like every time you were golfing, all I would hear the commentators say is like,
Starting point is 00:43:12 this guy's ass at putting. to wait until he's able to put and do his thing. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, being the number more golf in the world, how tough was it to make that switch, I guess from your traditional blade to a mallet putter, and then even the grip? Like, how difficult was that to make that change
Starting point is 00:43:28 when you're already on top of the game? Yeah, I felt like, so the year I'd struggled pretty, you know, a good amount on the greens was 2023. And at the end of 2023, I felt like I needed to make a change. We were coming out from the Tour Championship. And I decided to hire a putting coach, Phil Kenyon. And so Phil, it came in a few days later from the UK. He flew right in, and we got some work in before the Ryder Cup in 2023.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And made some changes. Immediately saw some benefits early in the year, the next year. And then in 2024, I had a great season. You know, we saw some small improvements at the beginning of the year with some technique stuff. And then going into, I think it was Bay Hill in 2024, we had looked at a bunch of different putters and a bunch of different options and ended up going with just a generic spider putter. And I went into Bay Hill, just wanted to give it a proper test. You know, before in the past, when I had made changes with my putting, it was like,
Starting point is 00:44:25 if I tried it for one week and it didn't work, I'll just move on to the next thing. And that wasn't really a good way to get better. You know, you needed to really give it a chance. And I had a lot of confidence in fill all the stuff we were working on. And I had a great week that week. And so after I think I won Bay Hill and then after Win Bay Hill, I'm like, well, I can't switch putters now. And so I used it again the next week, and then I had a lot of success that year. And then going into the offseason in 2024, Phil had almost built up a little bit of a rapport with me.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I trusted him after a full year of work, and the claw was something that he had wanted me to try since the beginning. But, I mean, really, I just had work with him enough, didn't really trust him enough to make such a drastic change. And, you know, we tested that out in the Bahamas last year, and it went really well. and I felt like I could improve my putting inside 15 feet, and that's the results that we saw in 2025 was a big improvement in my putting from that distance. And, yeah, right now we're in a really good spot. So we're staying with it?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Same with it, yeah. I like that. And I appreciate the fact that you said, this guy's from the UK. I don't know if I need to just be buying into everything he's saying. He's going to have to earn it on that note. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Scotty, I'm more of a casual golf fan.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And the United States losing to England and the world, basically, in the Rotter Cup, essentially broke me as a golf fan. Are we going to win the Ryder Cup? Or are we just going to dick around every time it comes around? Because, you know, it's basically caused me not to, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:48 have too many sleepful nights because of this. Sleepless or sleepful nights? Both. Both. You take your pick. It's a nightmare. No pun intended. Yeah, the plan is definitely to win the Ryder Cup. I think New York is this for all of us.
Starting point is 00:46:05 But, you know, that's one of things. I always hang my hat on preparation. And I stepped up on the first tee at Bethpage and I had done quite literally every last thing that I could possibly do in order to play well. And it just wasn't in the cards that week. We put up a great fight on Sunday. And hopefully we'll use that momentum going into 20, gosh, what year is going to be 2027 Ryder Cup. Yeah. It's going to be a long wait. But, you know, we're going to continue to be prepared. I think our team's in a good spot. I felt like we learned a lot at Bethpage. And, you know, I think it puts us in a good position going forward.
Starting point is 00:46:36 You're the man. Congrats on the fourth consecutive Jack Nicholas Award for Player of the Year, voted on by your peers at the PGA for last PGA season. January 15th, I believe we have an event coming up that you're going to go claw your ass through all the different greens. And we appreciate your service to sport, man. You're a great one. Well, thanks. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. I'll have me on. Hey, let's stay out of jail. Yes, sir. Stay out of the kitchen. I can't do anything. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You're right with the hand. Yeah, I forgot about that. Ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Sheffler. Congratulations to him. That was cool. He's the best. PJ every each other. Like, would you like to surprise Scotty Sheffler
Starting point is 00:47:16 with his fourth consecutive Jack Nicholas Award? It's like, uh, we get to talk to Scotty Sheffler? Please. Yeah. We need to happen on Monday. It's like, overreaction Monday. That's a lot of time. Scotty Sheffler, yep.
Starting point is 00:47:27 No problem at all. We're very appreciative of him. Now, joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has more information on all the very important things that have happened. around the NFL. Okay, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaefter. Shefti.
Starting point is 00:47:44 What is going up, Matt? I don't know if you tweeted it or not. Breaking news. Scotty Sheffler, Jack Nicholas, player of the year award winner by his peers in the PGA. Congrats him. Let's get right to the massive news happening around the NFL, though. Injuries, obviously, can derail entire seasons,
Starting point is 00:48:00 let alone what it does for the players. Have some massive ones yesterday. Any updates on any? of those? And what should we be thinking about some of these teams that suffered devastation losses at key positions? Well, Mahomes obviously took the test last night. So that came back. He's got the torn ACL, which is just terrible. You have to wonder, again, how long it'll keep him out now, how much damage was done, we'll go into the knee. Hopefully, it's just as ACL. We'll see if there's any other damage in there as well. But obviously, the start of his season next year,
Starting point is 00:48:36 Obviously, it has to be in question right now. Hopefully, he can make it back. He's built differently. He does things that nobody else does and has done that physically before. And hopefully that's the case right now. Micah, they'll do an MRI, but it's going to be a torn ACL. Like, I mean, you can see the moment he did it when it happened, that the leg bent the way it shouldn't know if he reached right down, non-con. I mean, it was all there.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Like, you're watching it, you know. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've seen enough of these. Now, you know when somebody seriously hurt. Now, every now and then, there's a surprise, and the guy's not. But in this particular case, it's a devastating injury. And after the game, Matt Lafleur acknowledged it didn't look good. They know what they know right now. I mean, it's not hard.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Let's stay with the Packers. Obviously, Micah comes in, becomes a closer, does something that no NFL player has done, gets 12 sacks in his first five years, entering his prime, obviously huge for that halfway defense. He wasn't the only one that got hurt for the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay Packers suffered a lot of injuries yesterday. Who well? Yeah, Christian Watson, Zach Tom.
Starting point is 00:49:36 The Right Tackle, and Evan Williams, one of their starting safeties. Any updates on any of those out of Green Bay, Shephti? Christian Watson's father tweeted last night that his son was fine. So it seems like he's okay. Now, what's fine? He misses a game. Fine is all relative, but he was sent to the hospital. He was allowed to leave the hospital.
Starting point is 00:49:59 He was allowed to go home with the team. His father says he's fine. So all the signs obviously are encouraging for Christian Watson. Zach Tom and Evan Williams, I don't have specific updates on. They were checked. They were ruled out early on, so that's not great. But, you know, here's a team that already was missing Elton Jenkins, who was missing Devante Wyatt, was missing Tucker Kraft.
Starting point is 00:50:21 And I thought Rex Ryan made a great point this morning. He's like, this feels and looks a lot like the Lions last year, where they're the best team in the division. They're going to be a force in the playoffs. They'll still make the playoffs, but you could only withstand the law. of so many great players before it does impact you in some type of way. So I know Ty's disappointed by that, but the fact of the matter is just not the same team. It's a good team. It's a playoff team.
Starting point is 00:50:48 But I don't know that it's a Super Bowl team right now, the way that it could have been if all these guys were healthy. Agreed. It's part of the game that everybody has to deal with. There's a 100% chance of injuries happening to your team. You just got to hope that it's not pillar players or game wreckers, which certainly has happened here to the Green Bay Packers, amongst others. You mentioned the Lions right there. They just got bullied by the Los Angeles Rams.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Rams lose their touchdown maker while running a go-rout in Devonte Adams. Sniper gets a hamstring, obviously 34 years old. The thought is he'll be back. Is that kind of what we're all hoping for at this point? Well, he'll be back, but when is he back? And just a guess, right? It's a hamstring. He's battles hamstrings this year.
Starting point is 00:51:29 They're playing for the one seed. I mean, he's not going to play Thursday night in Seattle. That would be shocking to me. So the question is how much time he misses up. Sean McVail updated later today. He acknowledged yesterday it didn't look good. My guess, and just a guess is we'll see him in the playoffs. That's just a guess.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Like this team can get by the rest of the regular season and give him the time he needs then. And then when it matters, really matters for this team. You have Devante Adams back then. That's my guess. All right. So those are the big injuries around the NFL. We'll continue to follow your X account to get more updates throughout the day as test results
Starting point is 00:52:03 come back. you know, it's the end of something special, you know, a 10-year decade, which is a decade, obviously, of dominance. Is this a dynasty delayed or deleted? There's obviously going to be some change going forward for the Chiefs. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shafty, with the Chiefs and with what, you know, Travis Kelsey has said over the past couple of weeks and just the vibes in general, especially when you think about their cap situation next year for the Kansas City. Is it safe to say that at least Travis Kelsey might be done after this year and that he is consistent? retiring, or are you not there yet with Kelsey?
Starting point is 00:52:37 No, no, I think people have kind of felt that all along, and we'll see what he ultimately decides at the end of the year, but I think his contracts up with Kansas City this year. I think he's got like an $18 or $19 million cap number that'd have to redo a deal. He's always talked about wanting to keep playing, but there are so many opportunities out there for him. He's at a new phase in his life, obviously. I'm going to guess he makes more money as a podcaster than a tight end. Like the guy is incredibly successful.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So I think his future is very much up in the air. I think it's distinctly possible that one of the greatest NFL connections of all time, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey may have played their last down together. Like we may not see that combination of people again, which is hard to imagine, but certainly that's a real possibility here. Generational combination of those two. And certainly something that we could never see again, but we'll always remember the great time.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I mean, they were, God, they were so good. I can't wait. All time. And for Travis, whatever the hell you end up doing, brother, we love it. We support it to Patrick Mahomes. Godspeed on the recovery. Now, there was something that happened yesterday that they're going to make a Disney movie from.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Go ahead, DeBuy. Yeah, speaking of things, we thought we never see again. Philip Rivers is out there spinning. It gave us a chance to compete. No, Anthony Richards coming off IR. We still got the young guy. And what's the plan? What are the coach plans going forward?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Is Philip Rivers going to be the guy going forward down to make this stretch? maybe a playoff push? I think he will and came very close to winning in Seattle in a game that a lot of people thought not only should he not be playing, but that they'd have no chance of winning. And if they had run off more clock, they might have won the game. Like, they distinguished themselves very well in Seattle yesterday, and Philip was definitely not the issue. He stepped in right then and there.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Like, I mean, it's hard to imagine where I'm important to see him. Micah Parsons is done. Patrick Mahomes is done. And Philip Rivers is starting in Indianapolis. Like, it's bizarre a world, but that's the world we're living in right now, where their playoff push is up to him, and he played, he played well yesterday. I mean, that was not the issue. He knew exactly what to do.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You know, and speaking to the Colts over the week, you're like, how are you going to get by in Seattle, in that noise, 12 man, that defense, and they knew exactly what they were doing, and they trusted Philip to know exactly what he was doing, and he went out there and executed the offense pretty well. Yeah, I think pretty well would be good. Now, he only won for like 120 is underhit over and over here, past yards, which I certainly don't love. Last question here for you
Starting point is 00:55:09 about tonight. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shephti, obviously a big one in Pittsburgh tonight. Can you fill us in on some injuries? I know A-Chane was banged up last week for the Dolphins. Jalen Warren had a sickness potentially today. Derek Harmon, and then obviously T.J. Watt, if you have anything on
Starting point is 00:55:25 his future? You know, the Watt thing, you're talking about a partially punctured lung, collapsed lung. he's a crazy guy, and he'll be back soon. You could ask JJ on the show. He likes to give the T.J.Wide updates, but I would think that, to me, look, he's out tonight. I'd be surprised if he played again next week.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Typically, these things would be multi-week injuries, but again, he's also built differently, so we'll see if he can make it back sooner. Jalen Warren, they added to the injury report today, questionable. Teams like to do that out of precaution. I still think that they believe he'll wind up playing. hopefully he'll be out there tonight. D.K. Metcalf was on the injury report. He'll be back out there tonight.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Who else do we have here? H. Chan and him? A. Chan's playing. They say, the dolphins say, he's full go. It was limited to seven practice, but they felt like he could have come back to the game last week and he's ready to rock and roll tonight. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shepty.
Starting point is 00:56:24 We'll watch you all day. We'll follow you all day. Had a tough one the other week, but we appreciate the hell out of you this week. You're the man. Thanks, guys. I appreciate Have a great week. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Schaeffner.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yay! Not a bad first hour. No, not a great first hour. I mean, that was very fast. I don't know, Shohey Othony, you know, coming through a pole skeins down. Top five, we got through the top five. Had to. Scotty Sheffler breaking news.
Starting point is 00:56:47 We actually held that up three minutes. The PGA was waiting to send a press release as we were wrapping up the NFC West being the NFL's best. But how could you not talk about the Seahawks, the Rams, and the Niners? is happening Christmas Day. Five games, one unforgettable lineup.
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Starting point is 00:58:12 So much to talk about. So many lives change. So many legendary tales about to be told as we get through meaningful football time into playoff football season, which don't look now. College football playoffs start at the end of this particular week. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Holy hell. Bama, Oklahoma, on. Friday. Texas A&M, Miami on Saturday. We'll be on the sideline for that particular game on ESPN 2. Cannot wait to be a part of that magic. And then Tulane, Ole Miss, JMU, Oregon. And don't look now, Oregon and Ole Miss, okay? Everybody's been talking about these group of five champions not deserving to be in the 12-team playoff, not deserving to take a spot that maybe Notre Dame could have had. Everybody's fighting about Notre Dame, Alabama, or Miami and what we should be talking about is Tulane and JMU are in the big boy dance well Tulane
Starting point is 00:59:04 JMU you can change a trajectory of college ball get a massive win put up some good fight and maybe the future won't be changed but if Ole Miss dog walks Tulane in Oregon smacks james madison I don't know if these group of five champions are going to be even looked at going forward I think there's going to be clauses added and amendments made to what the playoffs look like in the future. So there's a lot on the line for college football this weekend. And obviously the NFL wraps up
Starting point is 00:59:34 its week 15 slate tonight, Monday night football, in the city of Pittsburgh as the Miami Dolphins and Tua travel north in the cold to take on Aaron Rogers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers can obviously still win the AFC North and make it to the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens
Starting point is 00:59:50 just absolutely demolished the Cincinnati Bengals yesterday. So they're will be a representative from the AFC North in the playoffs. Will it be the Steelers? Will it be the Ravens? Or will the Miami Dolphins who are still lurking in the background to steal a wild card spot in the AFC, do something special tonight in the cold,
Starting point is 01:00:10 something that they haven't been able to do with Tua as the quarterback? The Pittsburgh Steelers have an incredible record in certain situations. Yep. They have a terrible record in other situations, like when they don't have T.J. Wall. DJ Watt will not be playing football tonight. Tua has a good record in some situations and a terrible record in other situations.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Like when it's freezing cold. Something's got to give tonight. What will it be? Bitsberg Steelers. Oh, Mama, I'm in here for my life from the long, oh, mama, but long. Will Jensers be booing that as they spend
Starting point is 01:00:54 another night downtown watching a shitty football team or will they be losing their minds as the Pittsburgh Steelers pick up a huge win in what could be a magical season with a run to the playoffs the toxic tables here at Boston Connor sorry buddy hey sorry to you too man 21 zip you guys were up we're up to 10 points at least you can see how Seahawks yeah now granted I think a little different situation between our teams but on that note I don't think it's that bad of a loss I think New England Patriots lose to a very good Josh Allen and Buffalo Beals. That could potentially project them into a way where they
Starting point is 01:01:27 change your perspective on what this season could be. And Vrable is going to utilize the hell out of that as a coaching point. And then at Ty Schmidt, I'm sorry, buddy. What happened, man? Yeah, the Packers were also up by nine points, not 10, but they were up nine, and then Mike have blown his knee out. Well, it was kind of just the cherry on
Starting point is 01:01:43 top of a pretty shitty Sunday. I'm sorry, man. You know, it just, it happens. That's life in the NFL, unfortunately. Denver Broncos are for real. They are good. Bo Nix played his best game as an NFL player on Sunday. And maybe this will be a sign of things to come for the Denver Broncos' offense.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Obviously, Halfley's defense we've been very impressed with. The Denver Broncos' defense we've been incredibly impressed with. They show up in a big way in the second half. And Toyotathon became Ram Truck Week for Jordan Love at the second half. And I don't want to point things out, okay, because I don't like to do this to give myself an old pat on the back as maybe others would do. But on Friday, as we were talking about this particular game, my brain in the middle of the conversation. interjected a highlight, well a low light, I guess, of Jordan Love running backwards and throwing it up. And this is the Denver Broncos defense. Obviously, they're going to get one. They get two
Starting point is 01:02:32 actually in the second half. They do their thing with that defense, with Bo Nix potentially playing his best ball right now, Denver Broncos are for real. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don Cowboys AP tone. How did the gomblers do this week? How do we do against the sports books who are obviously so incredibly greedy and winning all the time? Yeah, as you remember, We started off 0-1 on Thursday night, thanks to the Bucks in that situation, and then went 5 in 5 yesterday. So for the weekend, we were 5 and 6 on teams that were getting 60% or more of the bets. Another losing weekend for the fans.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Golly, 9-year NFL vet. Derrish J. Butler, are we ever going to beat these pieces of trash? I don't want to be negative, and I'm kind of out on AI, so I think, yeah, we'll get them. We'll figure them out. What do you mean you're out on AI? I'm kind of out right now. I'm getting a lot of bad answers. They give you...
Starting point is 01:03:21 Well, that's your fault. You need the correct prompts, yeah. Okay, I got to work on better prompt. Yeah. I'm kind of out on. Okay, so I haven't done the full dive-in for AI every single day. We'll send questions to Mr. G-P-T or Mrs. G-P-T or they, GBT. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Honestly, I have no idea how chat G-P-T identifies. Ask. Oh, it's actually both where you can choose. You can choose one. You can choose a man. You can choose a snarky. You can choose different one. The plural one is tough for me, whatever, it's an individual character just because of how
Starting point is 01:03:50 into English language works and everything like that. But chat GPT I've sent a question in there once in a while. I also asked them to make me a 3D design of a room. Here's the specs. I'll answer all the questions. I'm still waiting for it. I think I got a lazy-ass. I think the one in my phone, which I paid the
Starting point is 01:04:05 upgrade to have the top one because I wanted a 3D fucking print like I see on what's that one where they're down in Mongolia farms, Magnolia Farms. Chuck and Joanna Gaines. Yeah, Chuck and Joanna Gaines where they have a full three. That's what I asked ChatGPT.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I said, I want a chip and Joanna Gaines 3D surround image of what this room could look like. Had me answered 20 minutes worth of questions. He said, I'll get that for you. That was two weeks ago. Wow. It's like fanatics. Still just waiting on this thing to show up. So I have lost hoping it as well, but I never really bought in.
Starting point is 01:04:38 You were ChatGPT braining there for a while. I mean, it was every thought you were having. Took course on AI. I did. You got certified. Thank you, IBM. It was a pretty good course. That was a lot to know.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That's partly probably why I'm out on it. I think it's just, we're still very early on in the adaptation. And sometimes you've got to ask some questions, and they'd be like, hey, can you double check that? Can you triple check? But they'll do it and come back and give you some, so I don't like it happen. Yeah, I can just do it myself. Yeah, what are we asking you to double check? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That's what we came to you. Exactly. We are doing a double check by it. Yeah, exactly. We're asking you. They'll just spit it out. Boom. And let's not even talk about GROC whenever GROC just finds his time to, you know what?
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah, actually. I'm going to do it. What was Chad GPT saying about Saturday night's main event? I didn't get into that. Well, did D. Bone didn't get into it because if Bone was involved. I'll tell you what, Bone is not happy. No, he's not. John Cena was at peace.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah, it was. Smile on his face as he tapped out of the greatest wrestling career of all time. I went down the same way, and I texted John immediately afterwards. I should have given him a heads. up that this is what Gunther's going to try to do. This happened to me from Gunther. Obviously, I should have told John, hey, he's looking to do the, that's what he's trying to do. And whenever he wraps those big Austrian legs around you, like a boa constrictor, it's going to be tough to get out. Tyrese Halliburton brokenhearted, obviously, everybody in D.C.
Starting point is 01:06:06 There, I mean, it's just shocked. Yeah, Gunther took him out. Gunther's in the middle of his prime. Gunther didn't care about the whole celebration. Gunther gets a tap-out victory over John Sina and Tyresellibur. Have you checked on him? I texted him a couple of times because he was sitting right behind Michael Cole, front row. Real Mark, he said true Mark. He gave a couple hashtags to himself in the group text, which I appreciate. But he was there, and that's not what he expected. Now, a lot of people would say maybe Sina wins that one.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Well, maybe he should have won. You're right. Maybe he should have won out there and won, but the George seemed a little over. He was ready. Fars when he knew. It's good meme. He was ready. When I send you this, just know, I know it's over, and I know it's still.
Starting point is 01:06:48 time to go. Bang, bang, bang. I should have gave him a heads up, though, when he was here. And I feel like that was a missed opportunity. That was my text to Mr. Sina immediately after watching the finale. I'm sorry, I should have told you that that's what he's going to be trying to do. And I assume Sina watched film, he's always going to be prepared. But him losing certainly made people not happy. Now, the international wrestling marks, I believe, are like, this is what wrestling is supposed to be? But I think a lot of Sina fans are like, is it? Does it always have to be like that? It's not. Is that what it's had? to be all the time or can it potentially you know be something that's magical i do appreciate
Starting point is 01:07:25 him taking off his shoes i do appreciate taking off the headband that he's worn around his bicep for the last 20 years because his python's brother's so big his wristbands were different than ones he wore in here they're actually switched and he said that we were going to have the actual ones he did it feels like we were alive to just a little bit by mr hustle loyalty respect so maybe this is a this might be a collector's item now, which we're very appreciative of. Hell of a run though, John, we appreciate. I assume this did big numbers. I assume it did gigantic number.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I'm being serious. It felt like everybody on Earth was talking about. And I think that's what, you know, Foxy and I were talking about this a little bit before the show. That's why I was kind of pissed off because like you said, hey, listen, you got to respect the business and all that kind of stuff. But you had this match in particular, there were a bunch of people who don't give two shit about wrestling that we're watching this. And it would have been cool just to see Sina
Starting point is 01:08:23 beat the piss out of Gunther and go out on top. I do wonder if Sina had a plan for after the match, what he was going to do, and then whenever that gets changed immediately as the entire roster comes out to say thank you and honor him. And then Siam Punk and Cody Rhodes, two guys that Sina obviously gets along with very well
Starting point is 01:08:39 and was a massive part of their entire story. Say, hey, these are our titles, but they're really yours because you're the one that created them and made them to be as important as they are. Sina didn't want to do that. It was very obvious that Sina didn't want to wear titles that he did not win over his shoulders
Starting point is 01:08:53 because even though whenever he was heel he wanted to ruin the business and everything like that, he loves the business and he tried multiple times, hey, this is your title, it is not my title. And they're like, no,
Starting point is 01:09:03 you're the one that made them the title. So please do the thing. And he goes, all right, I was going to do something but I guess once again, I have to do what you guys want me to do. Here we go. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Thank you. No, you got to go to the other one, please. please you really want me to do this yeah do it please how about you and then seen us like you know what professional wrestler i think that could be a little bit louder than his side i don't i think he had a plan potentially on how it was going to go after the match obviously that changes when everybody wants to come out and pay their respects including mr h who got a very warm ovation from the entire crowd and then now tonight eight o'clock on netflix they have the opportunity to do some real special stuff with the outcome and the fallout
Starting point is 01:09:46 of everything that happened on Saturday. We'd like to say to Mr. Hustle, loyalty, respect. We appreciate you coming through the Thunderdome. We appreciate your service to sport and to beat the hell out of your body for the good and for the entertainment of everybody else. You're the man, John, even though he didn't win. You're still a winner in our eyes.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And Elias was there. It was good to see him. All the stars came out. Joining us now live from Manitken, Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, runner cup winner, AJ. Hawker, how you doing, buddy? man it's tough to see john go out like that but you know obviously very very humble champ i don't think
Starting point is 01:10:19 there will be anyone like him again yeah and uh john sina said multiple times on friday this is it so make sure you get closure because for me i'm leaving it all out there and it's over and i know you can only judge off of what previous wrestlers have done whenever they said they're retired and maybe it'll change going forward with me but this is this is it this is the final time right here he's taking it all in one last time. Let me go ahead and just Polaroid this for my own brain so I can remember what it was like as I walk out of my final match
Starting point is 01:10:51 ever. He says, I bid you ado. Shout out to Stu and then walks his ass out of there for the final time in the WWE. He will now be an ambassador for the WWE, not 100% sure what that means. But no, don't thank us. We thank you, brother. You're
Starting point is 01:11:07 the best, Sina. And I think he could have won that match. I don't think necessarily had to lose. But John Sina... What are you mean? You saw that joke. You saw that picture. He can't breathe.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Well, I think he could have won if he could have won, you know? And maybe one more five-knuckle shuffle. Are you saying he threw the batch? No, I'm just saying there at the end when he was smiling and just said, you know what? I'm done. I think he could have potentially... Fought to get to the rope. Boom!
Starting point is 01:11:36 Boom! One final time. But I think he felt what I felt. And that's whenever. Austrian man is wrapped around you. You feel like, I almost got, what's that called? Clostrophobic. I was almost claustrophobic with his body just kind of engulfing me. And I think that's probably what Sina felt as well. So he said, you know what, that's it. Legs aren't even long. He says, that's a fun year. That's a fun run. I'm going to get out of here.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Congrats to John. We love you, John. Good luck, John. What's John going to do now? Oh, take over to movies. He's, I mean, not that he would because, He has the Thespian ability to do whatever. But how many action stars are there currently right now? Not many. Probably you could probably count them all on like one hand. Like if he really wanted to just go and take over the action world, he could do.
Starting point is 01:12:23 He's seen as. He's got range. He's got range, for real. Ricky Stenicki, Ferdinand, anything else. Amy, what do you do with Amy Schumer? Yeah. Train wreck. Yeah, train wreck.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Blockers. He was another big comedy one that he was in. And he'll do whatever. Peace, he'll do whatever. He's in. He is in for whatever, which is kind of this entire final run. Somebody pitches him an idea,
Starting point is 01:12:47 I'm in, I'm in because I want to be easy to work with. And people are like, well, if he was pitched different ideas, would he have been in? Yes. Well,
Starting point is 01:12:53 this is Sina's okay with it. It's like, well, he's only okay because this is what he's hearing, you know, if there's other ideas that he was hearing,
Starting point is 01:13:00 do we think you'd be okay with that too? Yeah, but Sina, hey, he's good, he's good. We appreciate it. Heisman winner, Fernando Mendoza, Indiana University has a
Starting point is 01:13:09 Heisman for the first time ever, AJ. Love this speech. Love the way he handled it. Didn't love the presentation, but I do appreciate the fact that the Heisman still means something. You know, the Heisman will forever mean something, AJ. And that's a special night for not only Fernando and his family, which was beautiful to see, but for IU, for Indiana, for college ball as a whole. Congrats to him. And they're saying he's 64, 65. So whenever you talk about number one overall pick shit, this is guarantee in my eyes, but now also certified Heisman winner, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I mean, good for him.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Obviously, he's going to be a great ambassador for the Heisman Trophy, like his whole life. The rest of the – we're going to see him on the Heisman House doing goofy, funny things with the rest of the guys. We know that it would be fun. But, I mean, I'm not shocked at his speech was great. Everything about him is class. Like, seems so, so mature. Yeah, if I was a team, I wouldn't mind this guy leading my squad as a starting quarterback. He's an ugly cryer.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I mean, he's got a terrible cry. I mean, his whole face is bad. It's a bad cry face, but I do appreciate. appreciate the fact that he did cry and he did get emotional. And also, he very much acknowledged how much it means to him, his family, Sig, the school, everything. It was special, it felt special while I was watching an incredibly happy for him. Yeah, like a lot of people leading up to it are a lot of me, me, me, me, me, and him being like, hey, Heisman, I want this thing living at IU. That in itself, I think, is really cool. Because, I mean, we had
Starting point is 01:14:32 Matt Leinert on at one point, and his Heisman was in his laundry room. Like some people who kind of reached the pinnacle, and hopefully they do continue to go on. and win the national championship, but him already being like, hey, I know this has my name on it, but I want this to live in Bloomington forever, I think is so cool. Boy, the Heisman show could about change 10-fold maybe.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And the college football awards could as well. I guess we just do something and we'll do it for that way forever because that's what everybody does. But it's like, that's a special night. That was a hard watch. I watched the whole thing. I want it, especially my wife was fully invested. They stringed out a little bit.
Starting point is 01:15:10 string it out a little bit. Well, and the way they string it out is just, I mean, are we grandstanding the whole time? I mean, can we do some sort of, some sort of something? Yeah, what year did Fowler win the Hizman? Yeah, him standing up there amongst the Hysman Award winners was certainly something. And then him making a statement of fact of Fernando and then acting as if Fernando was supposed to know that it was a question after Fernando just won the Hysman and then say,
Starting point is 01:15:31 it's your moment, kid. Okay. You didn't win a Hizman, Fowler. This is his Hizman. So let's have a little humility up there through it all. But yeah, I mean, it's still a special thing. And then you see all the players, the ex-Hiseman winners. It's like, that is a special fraternity who has done so much for college ball.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Yeah, I mean, it's awesome, and it'd be nice if it could have a massive facelift, because that used to be, you know, like growing up, that was must watch. And part of that was because they didn't release odds, so you genuinely didn't know who was going to win the Heisman going into it. But you're right. I mean, it's almost getting to the point where it's a little too self-serving. It's like, hey, is this about the Heisman trust? is this about all that BS, or is it about the four kids who got nominated and ultimately the kid who wins the highsman?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Yeah, I mean, if we can make it a celebration, that would be sick. And then the college football award show being on a Zoom call, that's cool. That's really cool. I guess none of these awards are worthy of celebrating. I don't think I fully comprehend. Is the schedule too tough to make it work now or what? Because the teams are playing, like, how's it work? Well, I think if it's an ass event, anybody's going to make the excuse that the schedule, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:39 I've never heard somebody say, oh, the schedule's too flooded for something, it's epic. You know, I don't think I've ever heard that out of anybody. The Met Gala. The Met Gala's not going Zoom. Yeah, exactly. Are they cheapskates? Does that have something to do with it?
Starting point is 01:16:52 Maybe. I think it's just laziness full on. For sure. I think it's just full on laziness to not want it to be special. And as somebody that got a chance to go to the College Football Award show back in the day down in Orlando, like I think it was cool to have everybody around each other. And I think everybody was kind of pumped to be
Starting point is 01:17:08 around each other. You only get to see each other multiple different times. And it is a celebration. Like what do we talk about these things as if they matter and then we don't treat them as if they matter whenever it happens. Why aren't they all together? I don't know, dude. Like all the award. COVID gave people excuses to be lazy. Bingo. That's exactly what it is. You can just mail it in. And there's different types of awards of people who different like groups run different awards, right? You know why they're all split up? Yeah, but if you were to tell them like, hey, it would be what's good for the goose is good for the gander here. You know, like we can make this all a much bigger thing would be cool.
Starting point is 01:17:39 But to do that, you would have to have drive initiative and some creativity and have to pitch that. So I don't know if that exists. I don't know if that's something that exists. Well, and that's what's crazy because most of these people, especially in this world grandstand, like there's no tomorrow. So if you were to have all of them in the same night, you are kind of giving a much brighter light or shining a much brighter light on all of the awards versus the Heism. Like, could you imagine if the NFL awards did every award in some separate little thing
Starting point is 01:18:05 and then have the MVP award be an hour-long showcase about four people. Like, no, that wouldn't make any sense because they have brains. And then think about what the NFL award honors are. It's like the rap on the Super Bowl week as a whole. It really doesn't kind of do any justice to the players of college football as a whole, let alone the four people up there. Because Jeremiah Love, I'm assuming he won the running back of the year award. I don't even know, but I'm assuming.
Starting point is 01:18:31 The only thing we saw was him lose to the husband. Exactly. Exactly. So it's like, it really makes no sense. It's stupid. But again, it is very cool seeing all those former Heisman winners. It's sweet to see Des up there because you just see Des on game day. But then when you see him on that stage, it's like, oh, yeah, like you said, you forget how certified that guy. Yeah, Desmond Howard Heisman Award winner and Super Bowl MVP. I mean, he 20 years on TV, multiple-time Emmy Award winner. And he caught Michael Jackson's hat at a performance in Ann Arbor in college. What? Yep. That's literally in the middle of a video. his living room. He's got the Super MVP. He's got
Starting point is 01:19:05 a Heise me. He's got all this other shit. What kind of hat? The hat. The fedora hat. Oh, geez. Okay. Michael Jackson threw it. One of his things at a concert in Ann Arbor threw it like this. Desmond. Yeah, naturally. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. Snags it. Keeps that thing, puts that thing under there.
Starting point is 01:19:24 It's in his living room, literally in the front. The greatest catch I've ever made is like Michael Jackson's hat or whatever it is. Desmond is certified. And everybody up on that stage is and Fernando Mendoza now is and it's like we should at least what do we know you know what do we know well we know we watched it and we know people that aren't like die hard people watched it because I was literally in a room with somebody and they're like this is the Heisman
Starting point is 01:19:48 this is what this yeah it's yeah take a trip back to 1920 and this is what it is who's the guy reading the award for Mendoza uh he's he matters certainly is he reading directly off a teleprompter uh yeah well actually they'll show it yeah you can see it they'll actually show it for it's like come on Bernie and then Diego I don't think I've seen anybody have bigger heel turn in one weekend than Diego Pavia not that it was starting to happen already kind of because of anybody who's flashy and talks a lot of shit is going to be hated by a group of people regardless but then this weekend with how it all went I think a lot of people kind of turned on Diego Pavia and I saw a lot of people saying let's make sure we keep this energy that we had for Chador
Starting point is 01:20:34 or is going in the draft that we have for Diego Pavia. I don't think anybody's really talking about Diego Pavia being in the NFL, period. Like, I don't think that's really a conversation that's happening at this time. But I do know Diego Pavia is going to be a U.S.XFL. Yeah, maybe Hall of Famer. Owner, maybe. Yeah. When's the draft?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Do they have one of them? Is that the name? Do we know the proper name of the league, though? U.S.XFL. I'm not sure I've seen. that out there. Is that really what it is? You missed, there's an exclamation point at the end. Oh, USXFL!
Starting point is 01:21:10 Okay, okay, now it makes sense. Yeah, okay, so to that or Canada, Diego could have a massive Canada, but I feel like with his size, now granted, he's a health ball player. So maybe they move him out to, like, slot, wide receiver or something like that. I don't know if he's
Starting point is 01:21:26 going to be a quarterback. We don't know. Dillon Gabriel's got drafted in third round. We didn't expect that. Yeah, we kind of, I think we expected Dillard. Well, okay, I'll speak for myself. I didn't expect Dylan Gabriel be a third-round pick. Oh, third round or just NFL in general? I expected him to get drafted, but not third round.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Got it. Because he's too short? That's a big part of it, not a strong arm. That's the big thing. It's like the size. Like, that is the separator for the NFL and everywhere else. That is the worry about Diego and my eyes. I think he's a dog.
Starting point is 01:21:55 He's robbed people the wrong way, but I think that's because he has a dog. Flip Fandy. Who he is. Flip Fandy. Soda Mendoza, though, I think people would say. Nobody's really talking about what happened. Indiana. Now, Curtis Rourke last year did it for Indiana. Diego did it last year for Vandy. But a lot of people saying, like, Diego made Vandy a football program very real. I think Clark
Starting point is 01:22:15 Lee will be very appreciative as with people for Randy. But Fernando did that for Indiana as well, which didn't have a football team, very similar to what Vandy was. But I don't, I don't know if Diego to the NFL is really a conversation that a lot of people are having. I think that's why he's trying to get another year of college ball. And, uh, yeah. Yeah, it is interesting the way everybody has kind of turned on Diego. Yeah, and I guess we'll see if he gets invited to the Combine, because that'll kind of be the, like, if he wants, you know, a big part of his game is running, if he goes out there and runs a 4-7-8 at the Combine,
Starting point is 01:22:47 it's kind of like, well, you can't play a wide receiver, and you're not big enough to play quarterback, so we'll see. We have an update from Micah Parsons. He has tweeted about his injury giving a response. I may be sign-lined, but I am not defeated. This injury is my greatest test A moment God allowed to strengthen my testimony I believe he walks with me through this storm
Starting point is 01:23:09 and chose me for this fight because he knew my heart could carry it I'm deeply grateful to the Packers organization and my teammates for their unwavering support, love and belief in me during this season I trust his timing, his plan and his purpose I will rise again
Starting point is 01:23:26 How do you feel about that time? I mean yeah that's all I need to hear we're going to come back with a better Mike Parsons than we've ever seen. I think the big thing that I've kind of tried to compartmentalize with this too is it's not an Achilles. Like an ACL isn't like death wish like it was 10, 15 years ago where if a guy tore his ACL, it's like, oh, he's going to be out 12 to 18 months. Like I don't think that he's going to come back and be like slower and have lost
Starting point is 01:23:52 a step and all that kind of stuff. So while it sucks that it was this late in the season and there's a chance he might miss the first half of next season or something. something like that, like it could be a lot worse. AJ, a lot of injuries, Michael, obviously, and there's others with the Green Bay Packers, Devante Adams, Patrick Mahomes, your thoughts on teams losing key players at this stage of the season. Yeah, it's brutal seeing it happen, especially the biggest guys, but as far as Mike it goes to, I think Ty makes a good point. Yeah, it's not as Achilles and think, what, September is, what, nine months away or something?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Like, why can't he come back at the beginning of the next season? It's one of those things where an ACL is not a, it used to be like a career ender, and this guy's going to come back a step slow. Now you can come back and, you know, with all the rehab you do, you almost could possibly feel a bit stronger once you get your knee, once you get confident in your knee, I guess. But, yeah, Patrick Mahomes, I guess if there's ever a good timing to Terry A-CL, is that a good timing? The fact that they're out of the playoffs, you can get surgery, rest and rehab. I don't know if you're trying to look at the positive parts of it. Has never played a snap where the Chiefs didn't have a chance to make the playoffs for B season over, and now that trend will continue. This year was a different year for Patrick Mahomes, a lot more mobile, a lot more physical content.
Starting point is 01:24:58 a lot of physicality in Patrick Mahomes. I don't think anybody believed that this was going to be the year the Chiefs won the Super Bowl outside of the fact that they had Patrick Mahomes. He has obviously said he'll come back stronger and better than ever. And then let's go, yeah, here's his quote right here about being back stronger than ever with the clock. We appreciate that mindset. Obviously, Godspeed to Patrick Mahomes. He battles.
Starting point is 01:25:19 And then Devante Adams, hamstring injury, classic sniper situation, gets his little bit of a pool on a go route. Your thoughts on Devante and what the Rams. are over the next couple weeks as he tries to recover this. I know he's a guy who's an incredible athlete, obviously a wild work ethic. He's committed himself fully to ball. 34 years old, should we be worried about this? You think down the stretch, AJ? I don't think down the stretch. I think what Shepty said he should look for him. I'm just guessing, but I, you know, he should be fine for the playoffs. I would imagine, I mean, obviously there's all different levels to hamstrings. He's walking this one off. Yeah. I think for their
Starting point is 01:25:54 playoff push, they should feel okay. But obviously it sucks anytime you get hurt. You don't want this to be like a lingering thing. So when he does come back, you want to make sure you do whatever it is to where it's not going to pop up again another time down the road in the playoffs. He's 32 years old, not 34 years old. I apologize. I had that wrong the entire first hour as well. 100% on me. Let's talk about some of the outcomes from yesterday's games. That NFC West is unbelievable right now, AJ. I mean, obviously the Rams are the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. Pooka's outrageous. Matthew Stafford's unbelievable. Their Offensive line has two running backs who can get the job done in Karen Williams and Blake
Starting point is 01:26:31 Corum and they will punch you in the mouth. They are not scared to just punch you right in the mouth but obviously have all the pieces to be explosive and then on the defensive side, they're able to get the job done with anybody. Your thoughts on the Rams or will it be the Niners? Obviously, San Francisco 49ers, they lose Fred Warner in Bosa, which is obviously a scary situation for them defensively. Sala's still got the boys cooking. Brock Purdy does his thing. They're seemingly flying better than they have in a long time on the offensive side. They played the Titans, so it's hard to judge, but you get the point. And then the Seahawks, Seattle Seahawks team, obviously not the prettiest win against
Starting point is 01:27:08 Indianapolis Colts, but they continue to win. They win on the road. They have a strong defense. Sam Darnal can get it done. Feels like the Super Bowl representative for the NFC is now coming out of the NFC West, even though Bears people don't want to hear that. No, yeah. I don't think Packers people necessarily want to hear that.
Starting point is 01:27:25 even with all the injury. But this NFC West feels like the real deal, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, I'm with you on that. As far as those three teams, I feel most confident that the Rams would be the representative coming from the NFC. I just think with how Matt Stafford is playing, the defense, and all the weapons they have, if they get Devante back for the playoffs, obviously, what he can do in the red zone and stretch the field. It's just, there's not many people like him on the planet.
Starting point is 01:27:48 So they get him back, obviously, Pooka just, what did he catch? Like 8 to 10 balls, almost 200 yards every single game feels like. I know he did he get, it was scary looking in a situation earlier. It was like cramps or whatever. He came off the field and luckily it was good to see him back. Like what, Debo, what separates Puka? Why is he so good? Honestly, how is he always making these plays?
Starting point is 01:28:07 I mean, number one, you don't know where he's going to be. And you know how difficult that is throughout the week, you know, preparing for somebody if you know they're going to be in the X or they're going to be in a Z or they're going to be always in the slot. That makes it easier to prepare for and prepare coverages, adjust coverages around a guy. But for a guy that can move around in the backfield, could be in the slot, can be on the outside, can run all of the routes.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And then his catch point, like when it comes to that moment of truth, like nine times out of 10, it feels like 12 is going to come down with. He had a drop, I think, early in his game. And it was where it was like, wow, it was like that, we never see that happen. His rookie career, his rookie year, even though he had a career, you know, year for rookies, he had a bunch of drops, but he kind of fixed that. But yeah, he's a dog. He does everything well.
Starting point is 01:28:47 And then after the catch, like once the ball is in his hands, the play starts all over again. And it's like how Brandon Marshall used to be back in our day. Like once he got the ball in his hands, now he's going to take two or three guys to get him down to the ground. So he's just unbelievable in all those different aspects. Speed. Yeah. Hey, we don't really talk about Puka Speed.
Starting point is 01:29:03 It's obviously a lot about his toughness. This guy runs great routes. He's seemingly everywhere and knows everything. His hands, he catches are absurd. But he ran like an out and go or something like it just blew by. He doesn't look like a burner. That's the thing. He doesn't exactly look like a burner.
Starting point is 01:29:19 It looks super quick, but he is. So that's why it's like, it's weird. Like the dude is an absolute stud. Yeah, so fast, so tough, so chirpy, so jovial. I mean, it's like everything you want out of a guy. And Sean McVeigh just so happens to be the perfect head coach and offense coordinator to have a wide receiver like him. Yeah, he's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And we talk about how like running backs, I mean, Gibbs, Pacheco, they run angry. Like Puka also runs angry. He might be the angriest running wide receiver in the NFL. Like when he gets the ball, he's patting the page. And, I mean, it's already been said, but has he ever dropped a ball? Has a ball ever hit his hands and he's not reeled it in? It feels like every time Stafford goes to him, it's a catch, it's a first down, it's a massive play. NFC West is a problem.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Here's the highest scoring margin this season from Hembo. NFC West plus 287. Jesus. Yeah. What? Yeah, not even close. Yeah. NFC North, obviously good, plus 159.
Starting point is 01:30:15 AFC South, hey, problems down here. especially if Trevor Lawrence is going to do what he just did. What's that all about? Five through the sky, one on the ground. Liam Cohen doing his thing, defense making place. AFC East plus 57. The NFC West is 26 and 12 in non-division games, which is obviously unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Feels like the Super Bowl champion might be coming from the NFC West. Yesterday, we all saw it one dude beat a fairy tale story right into the ground. One guy. Leads the NFL in the most field goals this season. One man is just eight field goals away from having the most field goals made in a single season in the history of the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the guy who said, Old Man Rivers, go back to the retirement home.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Kick her for the Seattle Seahawks, Jason Marsh. Yay, Jason. What's that all about? I mean, I will say after the game, I felt a little bad because I did grow up. watching Philip play. I was a Targers fan growing up. So, after the facts, felt a little bad. Okay. In the fact though, you didn't think to yourself, all right, 50-some
Starting point is 01:31:26 yarder yet again. Blake Rupy, who I had no idea, somebody that small could hit the ball as far as he hits. He is outrageous. You didn't think to yourself, you know, Phil Rivers deserves this one. You know, our Seattle Seahawks team pretty good. I've already made five field goals. I go five for six. That's pretty good odds.
Starting point is 01:31:42 That's pretty good percentage. Everybody who think I had a good day. 56-yarder in Seattle with the game on the line. Maybe I missed this one for Phil Rivers. Didn't cross your mind one time Jason Myers? No. I mean, obviously, Blake's kick was amazing. That was a great ball.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Then Sam and the boys got us down in field goal range. So, yeah, I didn't cross my mind until after I got home and the family had to remind me that I did grow up watching Philo play for the Chargers. Yeah, I respect that. I appreciate that. Can you tell me about the team a little bit? Obviously you're a weapon. If it comes down to a kick, we know
Starting point is 01:32:14 you're going to make it. You've been doing this a long time. eight field goals away from the most field goals made in one season. Good luck finishing the season this year. Hopefully you're able to accomplish that, and this is one that goes down in the record books because it's been a special season for you, but also the Seahawks team. Can you tell me about Sam Donald becoming your quarterback,
Starting point is 01:32:31 McDonald's culture kind of taking over? What do you feel from the Seahawks team at this point that maybe you felt in the offseason going into the year that said maybe we could be special this year? I think it started last year, really. you know this this locker room everyone talks about it all year that it's it's a tight locker room and the brotherhood we have in here is amazing like you walk through the locker room everybody's interacting you don't really get that everywhere and I think that's what brings us together and like
Starting point is 01:33:01 on Sundays when things aren't going right sometimes everyone has each other's back and it's just that's just kind of how we've built it's I think it started last year when Mike came in and you know Sam I played with Sam and York. Sam's a great guy. He's a great leader for us. So, yeah, it's really just the tight-knit group that we have here is amazing. The closeness is on display when you guys are on the road. You have some away record that's just like historic, because home field advantage is supposed to be something obviously in Seattle. It is. You guys have walked into other people's trap, took over their trap, and it potentially is because of your tightness. That's kind of the X factor you can't really
Starting point is 01:33:36 see on film. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, you mentioned Sam Donald. They're a quarterback. You play with New York. What's it been like to watch his progression through the league and everything from high pick to everything that he's gone through? Are you surprised at all to see the success that he's having? Not at all. I mean, I know Sam off the field. You know, we golfed his offseason and, you know, Sam's just a great guy. He's true to who he is. You know, he's always going to be a fighter. He's obviously shown that through his career. And, you know, people have his back no matter what's going on. So we'll always put the ball in Sam's hand and he's going to lead us to great places. You're in your 11th year right now, you old-ass man, kicking like you're some young
Starting point is 01:34:15 buck still. It's unbelievable to have the weapon like that. But in that stadium, you know, it felt like it was special yesterday. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, speaking of old-ass man, we play up here, when we play in the league like that, was a special environment, special, very hostile atmosphere. And it was some reports a couple years ago about some other fan bases kind of potentially taking over Lumenfield. Lumenfield all the way back, because the atmosphere back where it used be those 12s? Oh, for sure. You know, Pat, you mentioned it on the road.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I think the 12's traveling is also a huge part for us. We go, you know, we go some places and, you know, you see the home team going on the silent count, and that's just because our 12s show up everywhere and then obviously at home. I think people just wanted to come to Seattle, honestly, to see what Lumen's about. So I think that's what brought a lot of away fans in, but, yeah, our fans are back. You know, they're loud. It's a great place to play. play. I thought about Trayvon-Ate yesterday
Starting point is 01:35:10 and take you over your place. You know, she's so far away. I thought about me and I was going to bring 30,000 Colts fans to take over the Loom and you know, we're going to, maybe you get discombobulated on one of your six field goals yesterday. This guy never fucking misses.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jason, we obviously saw it yesterday with you guys after Groupie makes the kick. Like, in seasons past, it feels like there wouldn't be enough time left on the clock, but now with the new kickoff rules, it feels like even if a kick is made with 15 seconds left, there's still enough time for other teams to get back into field goal range to trump that. Is that how you are on the sideline thinking
Starting point is 01:35:49 or is like, is there ever a chance that any team is out now with the new kickoff rules? Yeah, I mean, there's, I mean, there's so many different factors that play into that, whether like the time or, you know, what, what yard you want to give up if you want to hit touchback. You know, she'd made a great return on that one, got us into, you know, a good starting position and then we got a couple I don't even know how many plays it was five five plays or something and we got the yardage so yeah that definitely plays into the factor and then you know we still had what 18 seconds left after our field goal and you know we we kicked it short let our boys cover and you know I think it was one play later Kobe made the pick so yeah you're not
Starting point is 01:36:26 hitting a squib right you just hit it down what is your what are you aiming for in between the five and the goal line like what is perfect kick for you I mean I think it depends really like some Some returners play you shorter. You want to hit a little deeper, and they start backing up. Then you want to try and get on the ground in front of them. It's kind of, you know, you're trying to play a game with the returners. They're switching sides. It's all kinds of different little intricate parts that are going on to the kickoff.
Starting point is 01:36:49 And, you know, in the end, you just want to get the ball to a spot and let our cover guys do their job. Will you be working on in the offseason more, you think? I started working last off season when they changed the rule, worked on it a little bit more this year. I mean, as I get older, it definitely saved your leg. You're not trying to hit the four-two hangs, deep 80-yard kickoffs now. You're just trying to place the ball. The new hang time is really just off of getting the ball on the ground and letting your guys get that early start before the ball is being returned.
Starting point is 01:37:19 I didn't love, and maybe I was overthinking it, I'm removed from the game now. You know, I've been nominated for the Hall of Fame three times. It means I've, you know, I've been out of the game a long time. Haven't kicked the ball in forever. And that does not mean I should go into Hall of Fame. That was laughable that I got nominated. But I'm just talking about the amount of years I've been away. from it all and having kicked. I was a little bit worried about these kickers, especially young
Starting point is 01:37:39 kickers, that were trying to hit the ball fat to get one of this, and it was like messing up their field goal swing, I thought personally there was a chance that that was taking place. For you, is there a mindset on what you should do with the ball, what you can't do with the ball? Are you comfortable doing everything with it? Does that make sense? I don't know if question makes sense for you or not. Yeah, for sure. When this kind of started, I kind of had that mindset also, but I kind of try in my mind, differentiate my field goal swing from my kickoff swing. different steps and it kind of takes me back to like my soccer days of like let's let's just place the ball into a spot instead of trying to like technically think about the swing so yeah i think that
Starting point is 01:38:16 i understand what you're saying and i definitely thought about that early on when they switched this so yeah for sure well it's seemingly working for you but you're about to break the all-time record for field goals made in a season but let's talk about the change that happened over there we heard there were some walls that were painted in such go ahead con man yeah jason very new era it feels like with Coach McDonald. What is he like on the day-to-day? He kind of gives off the, you know, a super smart, nice guy, but he'll also rip your face off on a football field vibe. Is that what he is? Is he kind of like a football savant? Like, how would you explain Mike McDonald's? Mike's awesome. Like, he's a players coach. But when it's time to work hard, we work
Starting point is 01:38:54 hard here. We have fun when, you know, we're in the locker room and we're about, like, around the facility. You know, one of our big things is loose and focused. And, He starts with him, and then it carries through the locker room. And, yeah, I mean, he's smart, smart as hell, really. I mean, you've seen what he's done with the defense. And, you know, he gets kind of fiery on game day. And, you know, the guy, we'll have his back no matter what. Loose and focused.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Love everything about that. That's a tough balance, you know, for some places. That's kind of how people was. Carol. Yeah, what? Loose and focus? Yeah, from, I mean, from people, you know, talking to people that used to play there. And, like, obviously, at that time, Patriots are in their dynasty and everything was very tight and militant.
Starting point is 01:39:37 But in Seattle, at least back then, you know, had the hoop in the lot and the meeting room and all these different shit. So, yeah, very loose. But when they came into the field, obviously, there were a force to be reckoned with. How were you with that hoop? How were you with that hoop? I could shoot. I can shoot. Yeah. Pretty good shooter. You know, you know, specialists are athletes, too, Pat. Ping pong? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Anything we don't got to move. If we can get these guys in things where they can't expose us athletically, we're in a good spot. Play horse. Let's play horse. Let's do that. Ping pong, not as much movement. Is there games, cornhole and such, in locker room, or you guys know games building? We got the shuffleboard in there. That's a, that's a big one. The shadow boxing is taking over for sure. What do you mean? I don't quite understand it, but it's, yeah, yeah, it's looking and pointing in all kinds of stuff. What is the winner? Have you ever won one? What, I don't, I, this might, my general. generation missed this. I don't know what the hell they're doing any time that they do it. And I've heard from people that are in that world that say,
Starting point is 01:40:39 I don't fully know what a win or a loss is. Have you dove into the whole thing yet? And what's your record? I'm not great, but we have a lot of great players on our team. What are you supposed to do? What is the, do you know what the goal of the game is? You're supposed to look the opposite way of that they're pointing and they're, yeah. you get your ass kick Yeah I'm with you
Starting point is 01:41:04 Pat I'm with you Yeah you walk right into it Yeah I got it I got it uh go ahead Ty Yeah Jason I haven't spent too much time in Seattle But it seems like the only thing people really talk about Is the rain and like on Sunday I was expecting there to be a bunch of snow
Starting point is 01:41:16 And have the weather be really shitty But it didn't really look that bad What is it like kicking in the elements I guess in Seattle And how much does that prepare you For what you might see in the playoffs I mean there's a good chance that either you guys or the Rams will be the number one seed, so you won't have to deal with it.
Starting point is 01:41:33 But what is it like kicking in the elements in Seattle? Yeah, I mean, it could be tough sometimes. You know, the ball doesn't fly as well here. There's a little that heavy wet air. Yeah, I mean, we get rain. It's kind of like that heavy drizzle most of the time. But, yeah, I mean, it can be a tough place to kick, but it's also, you know, when you have the fans that we have,
Starting point is 01:41:59 It's just like, it's football weather, for sure. Did you expect Groupie to be able to hit a 60-yard football? I did not. I mean, he's come out to San Diego a few times, the last couple off-season, so I know he can hit that for sure. Dude, it's unbelievable. I have always had to believe that you've got to have a cannon. Like you, very smooth swing of the ball is traveling so far.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Groupie has a cannon, but I don't know where it's coming from. I legitimately have no idea where it's coming from. It's insane leg speed for him at his size, and we're lucky to have. have them. And the Seahawks, obviously, incredibly lucky to have you. Good luck the rest of the way. And please tell the boys, we say, congrats, you ruined a fairy tale. Thanks. Appreciate it, guys. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Myers. Ruin a fairy tale. It did feel like he was going to miss. Like, hey, you can't ruin this for Phil, right? This is like a whole situation. I was watching with my daughter, McKenzie, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:42:52 this guy always makes kicks. Like, that's literally all he does. And I think I said that in the past and then the next game, he missed one. I think because I was like, hey, Jason Myers, this guy from Seattle, anytime he shows up on your screen, he's making a kick. That's all this guy does. He very rarely. And then next week, I think he pushed one right, so I was almost like a kind of a jinx. So right before he kicked that, I was like, McKenzie, all this guy does is make kicks. That's literally all he does is make kicks.
Starting point is 01:43:18 And then that thing was his pure, there wasn't even a, there was no doubt on any of his kicks. I mean, it is. He's special. Dick's in there, punter from Australia. He was one of the first ones from Australia that had massive amount of success. success, obviously, which led to a lot of others trying to get in the game. He's a special talent as well. I mean, they got...
Starting point is 01:43:36 Seattle Seahawks got, yeah, well, he's Ozzy, obviously. And thoughts are with Australia, obviously. Love the country. Those are crazy scenes, crazy, crazy scenes, anytime any of that stuff's happening. And obviously, there's stuff going on here as well over the weekends. Like, T's and P's to everybody going through anything. Go ahead, come. Yeah, Brown, University of Rhode Island.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Very scary, that entire thing. And I think the bills were staying right down the road. So obviously crazy stuff happening. But we have to remember that the good outweigh the bad, no matter how hellacious something feels or seems in the moment. We have good people that will hopefully win in the end. I like to believe that. But T's and P's to positive thoughts and prayers to everybody going through it.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I mean, that was some crazy shit popping up on the internet, which is why we're incredibly lucky that we stay in a sports world. in sports are unifiers. And tonight, AJ, the Miami Dolphins take on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Did you see the Miami Dolphins travel up to Robert Morris, Bobby Moe, to get acclimated to the elements because it's impossible to replicate that in an indoor facility in Miami, what you could be facing tonight, AJ. I did see this.
Starting point is 01:44:48 I was actually happy to see this. I like the guys getting excited. It's like a spirited practice in this snow. I said to some guys when I connected before the show, I respect this, and I enjoy this much more than the take your shirt off in warm-ups and go run around and act like you're not cold in warm-ups. So I think this actually might have some positive benefits for them. Bobby Moe is actually located in.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Moon Township home of AQ Shepley. And? Joe D'Nornaudorna. Thank you. Okay. I almost thought like how that went. What at all. AQ is a Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:45:19 He ain't. Hey, Joe DeNardo, he's his well, buddy. I saw this week. You sure? AQ in his first season was ranked as the number two radio crew in all of the NFL. Who's he ranked by? Is it a place that matters? No.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Oh, okay. But on that note, better to be two than 32. Way to go, A.Q. Actually, I believe it was the worst place to do the ranking. Exactly. But hey, congratsy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Follow Joe Nardo's lead. He's good on a microphone. Bingo. Okay, but Bobby Moe over there in Moon Township, hosted the Miami Dolphins. It's always... Sounds like a traitorous move. So...
Starting point is 01:45:57 Joe DeNard was rolling over in his green room. Robert Morris would do that. Duquesne would never. Okay. They didn't do any things for the field. They didn't clear a lot for him at all. Well, I think they asked for that to not be clear. Yeah, they definitely rolled it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And as they were walking in, I didn't know is that Robert Morris. I think I found out like maybe the next time I watched the video, I was like, man, what high score are there? That might be like Pye and Richland or something there in the high school field. And then I immediately thought to myself, what high school is going to be like, yeah, the Miami Dolphins can actually get working on our field in Pittsburgh in the middle of a playoff push. I don't know. I think that would be a little bit of a difficult decision for some Yenzer to make.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Yeah. So as I'm watching the video, I'm like, I like this out of the dolphins, but then I'm immediately thinking in the background, like, somebody's about to get murdered by Pittsburgh here. Who were the ones that were like, yeah. We're going to see who turned them down. Wouldn't you ask the Dolphins who turned you down? How many places did you have to call until you got this?
Starting point is 01:46:45 Legit, that's a real, I think that's a real question, especially in like Pittsburgh, especially at this time, especially with how Yenzers feel about this particular season. This is another primetime game. This is another night game. getting down to the stadium with how hilly and mountainy Pittsburgh is is a thing you're coming in one tunnel or the other it's either squirrel hill or Fort Pitt and to get into these tunnels obviously a lot of lanes come into a little bit of lanes and everybody's coming at the same time it's one big come party and everybody's trying to get downtown in Pittsburgh and it is a nightmare let alone whenever you get through the tunnels then the chaos to get into the right lanes to get in So these Jinsers that are signing up to go to these prime time games, it takes them an hour and a half to get down there.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Then obviously we got a tailgate for an hour and a half. This is everything else. So that's three hours. Game, three and a half, four hours. That's seven hours. And then a trip home getting out of town? Yeah, right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:47:43 It's night now. The traffic is outrageous. This is a 10-hour commitment, okay? And then we got work tomorrow and morning. So we are committing a lot to go to a prime time Steelers game. So when they're booing, or if they're booing, Renegate the night, just what's happening on the field. It's their own personal decision to commit this much of
Starting point is 01:48:01 their life to this Pittsburgh Steelers team that we've been watching all damn year play like this. So we need sticks to know it's not about them if it happens tonight. We need the Steelers that are on the field to know. It's not just about you. It's about everything else that's been going on. But that's what the dolphins are looking to do tonight. They're looking to take accuracy completely out of it. They're looking to make sure Pittsburgh does not have any faith going into the fourth quarter. And without T.J. Watts, stats tell us there's a chance that the dolphins can do that tone. Yeah, so there's a lot of good things going for the Steelers tonight.
Starting point is 01:48:33 As I said earlier, the Finns have lost 13 straight games. If it's under 40 degrees at kickoff, it's going to be 17 degrees at kickoff tonight. Pittsburgh has won 22 straight home Monday night football games. So that's pretty good. The gold end zones are back because Pitt's done playing football, so that's awesome. It's also a color rush tonight for the Steelers, which they always win in those jerseys. The one issue is they are not with T.J. Watt, and they are one and 11 without T. Watt. So that could be a problem
Starting point is 01:48:56 tonight. Rodge is the snow too. Oh, Rodging the snow. Yeah, Rodg in the cold in the snow. Dickie. He's going to have a dicky on. Yeah, he's going to have, I completely forgot about that. Yep. And Joey Porter and Ben Rothersberger. Yes, they're going into the Hall of Honor.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Those three going in, so that'll be cool. They'll be there tonight. But this is a different Dolphins team. They started playing Minka. Closer line of scrimmages really helps them. Russell has been playing really well. They run the shit out of the ball with A-chan. So no, it'll be like I said, Derek Harmon, if you see him scratch tonight, he's questionable right now. He's the
Starting point is 01:49:28 rookie out of Oregon that he took in the first round. They give up 95, de-tackle. He is a, they give up 95 yards at game rushing when he starts it, when he plays when he's in the game, and they give up 195 when he's not. So something to look at. Let's go to the other half of the hammer. God!
Starting point is 01:49:45 Cowboys, grinning like the butcher's dog back there. Gumpy, it feels like you feel good going into tonight. Did the Robert Morris snowball play around? Help the feelings tonight or what exactly is it? You can probably run this back every time we've got to this point in the season
Starting point is 01:50:00 the past three or four years when it's a cold game and I've said I've believed and this is the time we're going to change everything and it's going to be better. But this time it does actually feel different. We're running the ball our offensive line is actually good and he's not going to say it. I think
Starting point is 01:50:16 this game means a lot to Minka man and Anthony Weaver the DC said it. He said he won't say it but I know how much it means to him. I think that a major factor because he's been playing lights out all year for us. All right, let's move to some other games that we haven't shown enough attention to from the weekend.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Bears bury the bronze in a freezing cold. Congrats to the Bears. Feel like they're mentally and physically tough and the Browns, Miles Garrett gets a cup of sacks. Obviously, he's celebrating that, but other than that, not much to really pull for from the bronze. No, the bronze absolutely stink, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:50:48 But yeah, for the Bears, this was, I mean, negative 20 windchill. For Caleb to play the way he did, like he looked unbelievable yesterday and yeah the bears i mean you can say what you want their odds are what they are but like this is they're a very good football team cairo hit a 41 yard or negative 15 which that's a huge kick uh that i took that away just as a person obviously that's incredible play incredible catch incredible throw i don't know how the browns didn't get that especially after the replay kind of showed that back but it feels like the bear's mental toughness that is good better best
Starting point is 01:51:19 never let it rest till your good is better and better as best from ben johnson has settled in completely What a game to showcase that. Absolutely, huge bounce back win for them after the tough loss against the Packers, where they could have laid down in that game against the Packers as well, but they fought all the way to the end. They had a great second half. For Caleb to have these type of highlight plays and these elements, unbelievable. Move to 10 and 4 now, second in the NFC, which is crazy to even think about.
Starting point is 01:51:43 The Jacks of a Jaguars, we've mentioned them a couple of times. Trevor Lawrence going crazy. They lead the AFC Southie, but they look for real. Yeah, they're number three in the AFC. You touched on it a little bit with Trevor Lawrence. had a historic day yesterday. He was 2032 for 330 yards in the air. Five TDs, another 51 on the ground with another touchdown.
Starting point is 01:52:03 He has been playing great, great football. I know this was against the Jets, but this last four or five weeks, he's been on unbelievable run. Another 10 and 4 football team that we wouldn't expect first year head coach. Trevor, even this year, a lot of people were saying, hey, this guy stinks. Maybe time to move on from him, but unbelievable. I was offended that the Colts had the largest spread of the weekend
Starting point is 01:52:21 when the Texans were playing the Cardinals. And I actually said the Cardinals have been routinely losing by 20. I have no idea why their spread is so much smaller than ours against the Seahawks. Well, looky, looky, they lose by 20 again to this Texans team. Now, this isn't a shot at the Cardinals. It was just a compliment to who the Texans are. They're the real deal down there. Third best odds to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Yeah, in the Texas defense, we know how great they have been. But C.J. Stride, you know, he has knocked that rushed off since coming back, another great game from him. Another great game from Nico Collins as well. He now became the third Texans receiver to have 3,000-yard seasons back-to-back, joining Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins. And Shuck is not ass, and the Saints might be good in the future, Con, man. Yeah, it might be good if they can figure out how to take care of their money, their cap.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Nobody wants to win the NFC South. Kind of cool, Panthers and Bucks, just kind of passing it back and forth. But that's because the Shuckmaster, the Shuck Man. That's kind of how they won the game. He slid, and there was a penalty, unnecessary roughness. what? But Charlie Smyth, lots. Game winner. Charlie Smyth, game winner from Mayo Bridge County, Ireland. His name's
Starting point is 01:53:29 Charlie Smith. He would have made that from 60 plus if he had to. It gets shortened for the late hit on the quarterback. The Saints aren't ass. Who will win the NFC South? Who knows? All right. We'll continue with overreactions and our official picks for Monday Night Football digitally
Starting point is 01:53:45 on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live. We hope you had an incredible day. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. of my change their life, goodbye. I don't know that I get that many words in. That was great. That last, that whole left.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Got it. There's four different times I thought about quitting and saluting. Like I was John Cena, and then I just kept going. I saw the ticker going. Shout to the Alioop in the back there, Nick Marlowe. You mean tapping out? Never give up. Well, just being content, I guess.
Starting point is 01:54:10 It's coming back. I think so, too, AJ. He's already an ambassador. He's going to be back in some form. So the fact that he's already there, let's just throw our body around a few times. Don't lose that. that. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:54:23 WWE global, global business now, right? This business is now the most global it's ever been, even though it's always been popular around the world. Now it's like real. So I think whenever he signs on to be an ambassador, I think there's a chance that when John Cena is filming in London or England, there's a chance maybe he's out there meeting with, you know, business arenas or mayors or whatever the case is.
Starting point is 01:54:52 for the WWE, the legends deal that the WWE has, that's for like appearances and different events. So, Ambassador, I don't think I completely... Oh, it's different. I don't know what the WWE ambassador thing is versus the WWE Legends stuff. Because WWE Legends deal, you see podcasts coming out, appearances and stuff, which I think is a very good way for the WWE to take care of the legends that have come before and also to have them benefit and thank them for what they've done.
Starting point is 01:55:21 I think the legends deal that it started becoming a thing was a very good move and also a smart move because what they were seeing their ex-wrestlers become was not good for anybody. Definitely wasn't good for wrestling as a whole. So getting them back into the fold and giving them purpose and, you know, like a sense of beat. I think that is a really good thing they've done. I don't know the ambassador. I don't know what the ambassador tag is. But John Cena would be the perfect ambassador.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Oh, yeah. You know, for basically anything, which is why he has 10 different commercials, you know, Because John Sina does good voiceover work, for real. Yeah, that Honda commercials really well done. It's not too much. It's not ever dramatic, but there is acting in there. He's good. He's a good actor.
Starting point is 01:56:02 He is. And why would you want to come back and wrestle? You know, it's like every time he comes back, he's just like getting his ass beat and losing. Sure. Who's signing up to continually do that year over year over year? And that was kind of John Sina's entire thing is he would get his ass beat and then he come back and win, which is why John Sina never give up. You know, that's why he's beloved by a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:56:22 And obviously, he was the person who has the world record for the amount of make of wishes, wishes that he is granted. It's like he was the guy who got knocked down but just kept coming back just in matches, let alone in life. And then also he was the one who went out of his way to do everything that was good. So I think he'll still be able to do everything that was good for the WWE without having to get knocked down every single match that he was in. because that's kind of the John Sina story and who John Sina is in the ring. He was the Ropo doper. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I mean, he would just get his ass beat and then who could survive longer. Me or you, who's always big match, John. And that's why we appreciate it. And that's also why it's cool because, like, his whole thing's never give up. And now for the rest of time,
Starting point is 01:57:06 I remember him as the guy who gave up in his final match. Come on. Why are you saying that? Because that's what happened. He didn't give up. That was him passing the torch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:14 It looks like he gave up. No, because he wasn't at. So he didn't give up. He just said, it's yours now with his left hand. It's yours now, bud. I give up. You take it, dude. You can have it, I quit.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Yeah. Looks like he quit on the business. No, he retired. Okay, I guess you can supplement those words with each other, but one means I did everything I could. I appreciate it. I grew up my whole life, and he told me to never give up, and now he gave up, I don't really get it. Did you tap out against Gunther? No, he put me out.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Okay. That's what I thought. Oh, so you didn't give up. So you never gave up. You just. My body certainly did. I did, yes. I would say my body gave up. My body gave up. Yeah, but your mind did. You didn't make a conscious decision, not too.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Well, yeah, I think you guys are looking at it is a little bit too much in the wrong way. I saw a lot of people on X. A lot of people who had deathly, deathly, deathly, illnesses saying like, oh, okay, I guess I'll give up then. No, that is not how this goes. That's what I saw. No, dumpy, that is not. You guys are looking in a weird part of the internet. The record number of Americans unfortunately gave up. No.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Passed away last night. No. You guys are, why are you guys looking at such a weird part of your net? Have it be a positive part of your way. He goes, good, it's your WWE now is what he was saying. None of that. It was poetic. He smiled.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I've done all that I could. And now it's my job to leave it better than it was. And it certainly is. It's your time now. Your time now. That's what he did. And he took those shoes off. Yep.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yep. Jay Uso called him trash ass, I believe. Jay Uso was on a microphone. And I don't think a lot of people thought Jay Uzo was going to be on a microphone, including Jay Uso. And he did get a little emotional in there, as any person, a little boozed up wood in those moments, you know, as you kind of ride the ebbs and flows of it all. But he did take a shot to sneakers, which I think we all did, because, you know, there was spotlighted there whenever they're taking off.
Starting point is 01:59:10 He kind of, those. Go see. What are those? Are those the airbirds? Monarchs? Uh, AFLs. Hmm?
Starting point is 01:59:18 Formerly. What's that? Lulamins. Oh, really? I don't know. No clue. I do appreciate the fact that he doesn't care. Like, in the era of everybody knowing what good shoes are and what aren't good shoes,
Starting point is 01:59:29 and like the sneaker culture kind of being very relevant, especially in the wrestling world. Especially with the freaking Halberin there. Yeah. Halliburton's got the Hibiscus Fours out, you know, like, and Halliburton being there. Yeah, exactly. Sina has never cared about the shoes. No. Or the Jorts.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Just what are they? Their jorts are good with me. And that's part of the thing we love about him. Loved. I think he could have won that. So that was a Photoshop I saw when he left the jorts in the ring? No, he went back in. He actually came back into the arena.
Starting point is 01:59:59 That's why he died? That wasn't real. After hours. It was real. No, no. That was, that was Grock. That was Grock. That was Grock.
Starting point is 02:00:06 But there was somebody in a very serious moment in the history of wrestling. whenever he takes that off and he stands up and looks at it and he's about to leave and the shorts you heard some couple people start chatting I guess that would have been that would have been awesome
Starting point is 02:00:22 he doesn't wear anything underneath the George he doesn't wear anything underneath the George nothing underneath yeah but it came through he obviously you guys don't watch enough Sina because he doesn't care
Starting point is 02:00:31 about the underwear either because that ends up showing and it's some terrible offer and it's like Sina you can have fucking anything you know I what do they give me it's okay
Starting point is 02:00:42 As long as they work, I'm good with it. And that's, like, kind of a part of it. Can you get them to send the Jorts? Because that a mannequin kind of makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, it's kind of shirt. What's it called? Shirt cocking. That's the name.
Starting point is 02:00:55 I didn't know what you're name. Yeah, it's called the shirt cock. That's a classic shirt cock. Donald Ducking it. We could never seen anyone do it with Ritzbauds. Could just have bone bringing a pair of George, because I think he's got about 75 pairs of those seen of George. Think they don't fit that man?
Starting point is 02:01:07 Well, we tried to put, well, that's kind of what's seen as George's are. They're really big. We tried to put the chairs in, front of it so it didn't look as bad as if you know kind of cover it up but yeah it does appear those george might fit that bear maybe but not the other side he's already had a rough getting not today with him yeah he threw a childlike tantrum on Saturday night a group chat that I had a mute it was so funny though he blocked wwee dude he blocked him what thanks for ruining the fucking goats last one wwee
Starting point is 02:01:42 business fucking fails at blocks the WWE but he couldn't stay away from the chatter he stayed on his phone all night and read every single Mark's reply to him
Starting point is 02:01:53 got people told me I don't understand business this is what you're seeing to want is it and what do you think about him to be watching night Monday night football or Netflix
Starting point is 02:02:04 Monday night raw 8 p.m. Eastern what will the WWE do in the brand new era post hustle, loyalty, and respect. We'll find out tonight.
Starting point is 02:02:17 It's a new era. This British. New era. They were mean to him on internet. Yeah. And in real life. Yeah. That's part of the biz, bro.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Exactly. That's part of the biz. I guess so. Listen, when you sit in a chair that you have to make actual decisions, there's going to be times where people don't appreciate you. Which is why there's people that are sitting in positions of power that don't make any decisions. because they're scared of the repercussions. Triple H said,
Starting point is 02:02:45 fuck it, I'll be the one. It's got to do all this. Good healing. And he had a good run there for a while, Booker of the Century. Oh, yeah. This guy's the promoter Booker of the Century. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:55 And then all of a sudden, we've got to make some real decisions and we've got to do some stuff and people turn. I assume Triple Hs has a little bit of magic in that beard. It's got a little bit of heat in that pen. New Air starts tonight.
Starting point is 02:03:08 That's right. Can't wait. Did you see all the NXT? So Ruka, outrageously talented. Oba. He's awesome. I do love him. Yeah, where's he from?
Starting point is 02:03:18 You can tell, just by looking out. Oh. Don't. I would have seen it comes back tonight. He's like, you guys are idiots. You believe me? You really believe me? I was leaving.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Could happen. Yeah, you don't know. And he gets beat again, though he taps out again. Now it's over. That's the business, by the way. The business is that he could show up tonight. Yeah. That's why we'll be there.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Where is it? Netflix. I assume it's in D.C. area. Normally after those things. Baltimore, maybe? I don't know. Where is it over from? Massachusetts?
Starting point is 02:03:52 No, no, no, no. Where's it from? Like Nigeria or something, right? Oh, I don't know. That's sick. It's hard not to start to walk with him whenever he's walking. Jacked.
Starting point is 02:04:07 They're standing up on his toes. While he's in the middle of the ring, I'm like, that guy's balance is fucking outrageous. Yeah. They're in Hershey, Pennsylvania tonight? Yes, they are. We've been there. We have.
Starting point is 02:04:18 That place, that place is very committed to ball. It's a hub of Marks. Okay. They are, yes. It's a Mark Hubb. They are committed to ball. There's an Applebee's right down the road there. Great Appleby.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Yeah, pretty solid. Yeah, exactly. Play the hit. Chili's. Like all the everywhere you will find Marks, Hershey, PA, baby. All right. We'll be back on here.
Starting point is 02:04:40 other side make our picks for it tonight turkey cheese excuse me hersey park the number two amusement park in pennsylvania yeah it's not even close obviously behind obviously is there a six flags or something i don't know about you fucking pick those are getting out of going out of business because they suck have you heard really Travis kelsey's trying to save him oh yeah well as long as kenny would exist it's going to be tough to be another amusement park is who um I was referring to, A.J. Hong. And not everybody can offer free food and park, brother. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Holiday sale right now for Kenny Wood. This is not an ad, but you can save up to 60%. What my God. Free food and park, brother. Right now, save up to 60% on tickets and passes. Experience the joy of holiday lights for as low as 1999. I will say it is good to see holiday lights still happening at Kenny Wood because Fright Night got canceled
Starting point is 02:05:42 because Inzers were just fighting each other in all of the different locations Tis the season, though. We know not to fight during. Hey, Inns don't be fighting fucking holiday lights at Kenneywood. That's a bad. Everybody knows that. Fright Night got canceled
Starting point is 02:05:56 because there was too many brawls. All right, Kennywood's got to cancel Fright Night because these fucking assholes can't keep their fists to themselves. It was all over the place. Same thing happened at Station Scare. It was tails old as time. Station Scared used to be awesome.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Well, why is it that? No, well, because everybody got, all the Inzers got drunk, went down there and just fought each other and it's fucking full chaos everywhere. What was it? It was a haunted house. What was it? It was bars, a bunch of them. Oh. A bunch of bars. It was like a whole other area.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Obviously, got the South Side, which won a Guinness World Record, I think, for having the most bars per whatever space. It was like 100-some bars. Hilarious that that exists. It did for a long time and thrived for a long time. But 233 a.m., obviously on that street in Pittsburgh. was, you know, that was a heads-on-a-swivel situation at all times. And I'm not saying you always got out of their safe, or we got out of their safe. Diggs got knocked out twice by the same guy.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Same guy? Oh, dude. Scrap. I would not lose cost. In one night? In one night? I mean, it was, guy, I've told the story on here. He was buffed bag, well.
Starting point is 02:06:58 And wasn't it a Brennan-Huffdale doback situation where you guys both knocked each other out? No, no. No, no. There was three of us first one guy. And he won. And one guy. Yeah, what is this guy? We took him on Chuck Norstad, which was a bad idea, one at a time.
Starting point is 02:07:13 Why would you do that? Because we were drunk. Wait, the second time you did? Was the second time you got knocked out? This is Yinzer's while drunk, dude. That's the title. Yinsers while drunk. Kenny would cancel his 21 plus nights due to fights.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Yeah, okay. Yeah, this is Yinzer's while drunk. This is kind of the whole story. But that guy actually, in his mind, when he's telling the story, it was four guys. Tone tells the story is just three of them because it was toned twice. So that guy knocked out Tone first Then the two friends And Tone got back up
Starting point is 02:07:42 And then he knocked him out again That guy gets in car Immediately goes Just knocked out four fucking guys Yeah but we won in the end Because the bouncer at Diesel saw it And said that was awesome And let us in for free
Starting point is 02:07:52 Spotted Terps out of a hell of a night Which goes back to tonight Oh my movie And how about I mean Haven't he really talked about it Big Night Out there was one fight Yeah
Starting point is 02:08:05 Yeah That's very impressive There was an art that was like Pat McAfee's Big Night Out has massive brawl or whatever it was like going into that we thought to ourselves if there's under three fights here success story only one fight happening was like a big I was very I was like anybody super injured nope yeah there it is big night out brawl in the stands with stars on the stage it was like Pittsburgh booze together long time money being given out next door like we knew there was a chance that was a roll of the dice Pittsburgh. But that leads us to tonight. Like, Pittsburgh is we're done with it. City, and that could be on display
Starting point is 02:08:46 tonight for real. Yeah, I was going to say that was the biggest one. The Eagles fan winning a million bucks wearing Eagles jersey. I thought they were going to beat that guy to death. Yeah, we had to get him. That was a decision that was made. Hey, let's get them back as immediately as possible into the back so we can meet them.
Starting point is 02:09:03 But yeah, that's, hey, tough time. Always will be. Always will be. See how tough there a night Well, that's the problem They won't handle it well though If the warm weather
Starting point is 02:09:13 Miami Dolphins come in And beat up on them That's going to be a tough scene Sevens in a house It's not going to happen Sevens in the house So is Joey Poor So is Ponzi
Starting point is 02:09:21 I assume some of the ex-coaches That coach those boys And lads are back in town But that's the thing You talk about We'll see if they're tough tonight That's the thing that the Inzers hate Is like this team
Starting point is 02:09:32 Doesn't look like What we would like to portray Oh my Turn that the fuck off That is not for this team. Right here is what they were doing before. That could happen the night with this planet Dolphins team. Could they out tough, Pittsburgh, in Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 02:09:47 No way. That wouldn't be good. Especially with Robert Morris rolling out the rear carpet. Oh, if you're really throwing Robert Morris on the board? They might have broke the curse. Thank you, Robert. Thanks, Nick. Let's get to a break.
Starting point is 02:10:03 I don't like... I don't like the... Pittsburgh staples are welcoming the enemy. Daimel is not a good. Dan Marino probably said it up, to be fair. Came to coming back home. Can't say no to Dan.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Dan would have had him down there Central Catholic, which would have been a pretty sick setup, but I assume Central Catholic said, I don't think we can, Dan, we love you, but we can't be fucking housing and hosting the Miami Dolphins
Starting point is 02:10:32 as the Pittsburgh Steelers are on a maker break type run. So then they just started getting outside, and they're like, Who's that guy that goes on Macfee's show all the time that acts like he hates the city of Pittsburgh? AQ, where's he from? Moon. Is there anything in there?
Starting point is 02:10:45 Well, there's a drive-in movie theater. We can see if we could practice there. And then also there's a universe. Let's call them. They'll let us in. Right next to the airport. This is actually AQ Shipley that got this done. Right next to the airport?
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Starting point is 02:12:25 there you got in one half of the hammer died cowboys apitone's pittsburgh steeler's host the miami dolphins tonight to wrap up week 15 but also apitone is a college football author multiple There's a lot of news coming out of college ball right now, not just the college football playoff starting on Friday, but also some future movement getting very loud. Yeah, there's five quarterbacks that had big time news over this last day or two as far as Transfer Portal or not going to Transfer Portal, so I just wanted to highlight some of those real quickly.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Lenore Sellers. Yeah, a little quickie. Let's get a college football transfer portal quick. Lenore Sellers, who's a quarterback at South Carolina. He was one of the top prospects potentially for the NFL drafts. coming into the season. Had a bit of a down season, but he's going to stay at South Carolina, which is huge news for him and Beamer going into the next season. Yeah, great player.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Obviously, everybody thinks that South Carolina could be anybody because Lenora Sellers is the quarterback, to your point. Lenora Sellers, he was a big name for the NFL draft. Arch Manning was a big name for the NFL draft. The season certainly won a different direction. Congrats to Shane Beamer and their NIL, which I assume is going to have to do a whole new renegotiation. Now there's some other massive storylines. Yeah, guys that will be leaving
Starting point is 02:13:41 their schools. We'll start with Sam Levitt. He was at Arizona State, led them to the playoffs last season. He is going to be hitting the transfer portal, and he'll obviously be one of the more recruited guys coming into the next season. Is Sam Levitts leaving? Ken Dillingham? Dillingham was getting emotional whenever he
Starting point is 02:13:56 signed an extension. He was in the middle of signing extension to stay at Arizona State. You can hear him actually saying, there's been a couple of jobs that are off for a lot more money, a lot more everything, a roster development and have, you know, so many different connections in the sport that I would like to be, but I love this place, man. I don't know why I'm fucking from here. I wish I was from
Starting point is 02:14:16 somewhere else, but I love this place. He has taken an onus on his hometown school to become a great one. His name's everywhere else, but now he's going to have to find a new quarterback, it seems like, going forward. Big deal for Ken Dillingham, AJ. Yeah, where do you find it? Like, who do you just go try to find some? I don't know what you do when he have these quarterback. I mean, Indiana, obviously, they have Fernando's brother coming up through the wings, I would assume to be the next guy. But yeah, every single offseason at this, or actually right at this time of year,
Starting point is 02:14:44 like, trying to figure out what your roster looks like in Springball, it's wild. Yeah, it is wild. Obviously, you don't know who you have, who you don't have. You talk about what is he going to do out there in Arizona State. Well, maybe he goes to the Transfer Portal and find some money. Sure, the next two that I wanted to bring up were number one quarterbacks in their class coming out. DJ Lagway is transferring or going to hit the portal from Florida. He was the number one overall recruit a couple years ago.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Obviously, his time with Napier down there at Florida didn't go the way that either of them wanted. So now he'll be hitting the transfer portal. And then from Nebraska, the also the other number one quarterback five star, Dylan Ryola is going to be leaving Nebraska as well. Writing was kind of on the wall for there. Something happened. I believe they separated with his father, his brother decommitted. And then now Dylan Ryola is expected to enter the transfer portal. Going back to DJ Lagway, initial meetings,
Starting point is 02:15:35 Summerall, I guess, didn't go, well, how do you think that one? What do you think that is? Oh, no idea. This is one side of the story coming from Chris Hummer. Obviously, everybody is going to have their side. I assume Coach Summerall has his own side in this entirety as well. But he said initial meetings didn't go great. I wonder if Somerall was like, hey, you were supposed to be a guy this year, what happened?
Starting point is 02:15:55 Why did not go that way? DJ got pissed. Or maybe DJ is just looking to explore his options anyway. Yeah, maybe a fresh start is what he needed. I mean, him, and obviously this would be a fresh start with a new coach. staff coming in, but he has all the tools, just like Rowley does, but like he just looked lost at time, in my opinion, on the field. And that, to me, is coaching system, something he needs to be comfortable in. So I could potentially see him land on his feet, being at a new university
Starting point is 02:16:19 and maybe being at the top of the draft when he actually does come out. But this was not shocking, you know, with Napier moving on. Ryola, though, this is a pretty big name here now. Yeah. This is a pretty big name here leaving Nebraska. Now, he was committed to Georgia, I do believe, even than Arizona, potentially before that. He's obviously been highly sought after for a long time. Matt Rule, head coach of Nebraska. It felt like one of his big achievements was getting Dylan Ryola to Nebraska. Started as a freshman, started this year.
Starting point is 02:16:47 His dad was offensive line coach. Dad, no longer, offensive line coach there at Nebraska. Feels like his name's big, and he has a lot of ball behind him. He's played a lot of football at this point. Yeah, a ton of football, but kind of crazy. He's the only one out of all these guys. it's coming off a major, major injury? Is that right?
Starting point is 02:17:05 Levin had an injury, but it's not as major. Yeah, like as pretty grueling leg injury. So does he drop because of that just if you're thinking as far as like payment and, you know, that order of other guys that are available? Has multiple, multiple, multiple years left? So maybe there is like a red shirt ear coming or like a change. Are there incentive NIL deals? Like, can they do that?
Starting point is 02:17:26 Hey, if you're healthy on the field and you do the, you hit certain things and we'll give you more? Oh, yeah, a lot of incentive-based NIL. why a lot of teams have guys that are forced to play in the bowl games or some teams don't have bowl games, you know, like there is a lot of incentive, I guess, or escalators that could potentially be in there. But I would assume wherever he heads to, there's an understanding that like, hey, next year, probably not, still going to need this. And then whenever we get back in, we'll have to go about that. The business of college football, especially if you're a notable name, is very good. Still crazy that you can just kind of get up and leave whenever you
Starting point is 02:17:56 want, but he's not the only one. They're not the only one. Yeah. And then the, not the biggest name coming into this season, but he's now currently the number one ranked quarterback heading into the portal. Cincinnati's Brendan Sorsby. At one point this year, he had, what, 30 touchdowns to one interception. I think that was going into the Utah game day. He was incredible this year. He's going to hit the portal. Like I said, he's the highest ranked quarterback in the portal right now. And I know, and a lot of the teams that you're seeing associated with all these guys, LSU, Indiana, Miami, and Texas Tech are kind of like the biggest ones right now because most of their quarterbacks
Starting point is 02:18:30 will be leaving. A shout to Hayes Fawcett and On 3 being on top of all of it. Hayes obviously friend of the program. So then he started thinking, well, did Winnadadad say he's going in the Trinsuitary portal? Soon, soon. A couple weeks out from that. Because if Winnad Trinidad doesn't go into the portal, which
Starting point is 02:18:46 we all assume he'll be heading to LSU with his offense coordinator, Charlie Weiss Jr. and the entire offensive staff and Lane Kiffin down there at LSU. You assume that's the case. If not, LSU has all the backing, right? That was very open. I think Lane in his open and press conference said, yeah, LSU, Florida, there's a lot of different options. This one by far had the most for
Starting point is 02:19:08 players and for roster edition. So they're going to be able to get anybody that you would think they would want. Yes, you definitely could. And then some of the other names that people are looking at one is obviously Winnidad. One is Bryce Underwood, depending on what happens there. Mason Heinzel, who was the quarterback at Pitt. As a freshman was incredible, do they have the money to keep him there. And then the quarterback from North Texas, who is coach, Eric Morse, leaving for Oklahoma State. Those are all... What's that kid's name?
Starting point is 02:19:34 Nustamaker. Yeah, yeah, bingo. Drew Mustamaker. It feels like he is on a one-way trip to Indiana, brother. That feels like a Kurt Signetti special. I saw Sorbsby attached to maybe Indiana as well, as well as Levitt. Because of what Sig's done already
Starting point is 02:19:51 with transfer quarterbacks back-to-back season, they are now just a transfer quarterback school. So is Miami. I think a lot of places will think that. Drew Mestamaker is the North Texas kids' name. He was backup in high school, right? Yes. Yeah, he's a fifth string, too. Like, not even like immediate backup.
Starting point is 02:20:07 I was on JV for a while. I don't want to act like we know Cignetti because we just know what everybody else knows. And he's been on our show a couple times and I've had a chance to meet him and he's invited us to his house. But I'm not acting like we know him, know him, know him. He is a great talent evaluator. One of the things he is looking for is, have you been overlooked a bit? Have you been somebody that has been wronged?
Starting point is 02:20:27 That is what we have come to know from Kurt Signetti. So the kid who was in JV, senior year and six-string and all this shit, and now he's gone on to become who he is. I think that feels like a Kurt Signetti-type quarterback. But once again, Indiana has worked themselves into the shoot of being one of the top programs in the country. So they can kind of... Kurt Signate is at a different position now than he was the last two off-season,
Starting point is 02:20:51 especially with their donors seeing the success that their money's having. So it's an interesting time for a lot of these schools where you can make a couple good decisions in a transfer portal and change everything for you like Indiana, I guess like Vandy, like a couple of other places. Think about Indiana Mendoza, what about Cal's quarterback? He would commit to going back to Cal? Yeah, so coach, I actually got a couple texts from their new head coach.
Starting point is 02:21:11 That's huge. Yeah, their new head coach, Coach Tupi, I believe, Josh. Josh Topoy, sorry, I said his name on 100% on me. I got a text from him as soon as he's, so I guess he's, He signed to be their next head coach, did the press conference, gone on a plane, one to Hawaii. It wasn't like a, hey, this is going to be a fun, let's do this entire thing. Got on a plane directly to Hawaii, meets up with Sangapolitelli,
Starting point is 02:21:39 the quarterback for Cow from this last year, freshman who was outrageously good, certainly earlier in the year, better than the end of the year, but end of the year, who all they have, their coach ends up getting fired. There's a new head coach. So Song of Politelli will be staying at, cow, Rivera, congrats him. Tosh Lupoi is his name. Okay, Tosh Lepoy. I got a text from a number I did not know. And it was like, tell the world. So I'm gonna tell he's staying a cow or whatever. And I, it was, it went to my spam. I didn't even really. So I caught up with it a week after I got to
Starting point is 02:22:10 text. I had four text messages. And I'm like seeing it. I'm like reading it. Like, who the hell is this? And it's a picture of him with Oos at the house, like thumbs up like this. It's like I could have broke that news. I think. He was trying to be like, hey, tell the whole damn world. Yeah, because that's the, you know it, you tell the whole damn world, basically, in the text, I didn't get it. I apologize, I didn't have his number save. But yeah, that was huge deal. That was like number one mission is we need to keep them around, which is how every coach feels about all these guys and obviously got some great ones about to leave. Yeah, and I believe he played football at Cal too, so he's got, you know, vested interests and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 02:22:50 But, and this is like, I know the playoffs are starting Friday, but the next, what, month and a half, especially with Michigan's head coaching vacancy still needing to be, you know, filled. Like, there's just so much shit going on with college football right now. It is kind of like, it's almost mind-numbing. This is why college football is the number two sport in the country. It's not just on the field. It's not just how awesome the environments are. The best in America is what college football environments are. but also now we've got a lot of business and drama and shit.
Starting point is 02:23:21 And I know people don't necessarily love it, but it is good for sport to have a lot of action, a lot of drama. I'm not saying it's good for the teams. I'm not saying it's good for the universities. I'm just telling you for the sport as a whole, talking points and subjects are only going to magnify even more with the growth of the sport. And that's a good thing, not a bad thing, AJ Hawk.
Starting point is 02:23:42 Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're a coach, how far down the road can you try to like, Do you develop quarterbacks anymore? Do you recruit guys, give him scholarships, and develop them? Did you guys? I think you did right with saying. Yeah, well, he came from Alabama after Coach Saban left. He was there for a short stint, but yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:00 There for a year, right? Watches Will, then kind of takes over. Now he's at a Heisman presentation ceremony, and he's not getting asked any questions by anybody, just kind of off in the corner of the guy who might break the college football record. Yeah, AJ, you obviously love this for the Ohio State Buckeyes. But it's like he was there for a year, right? Developed. I think that is something that took place.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Dante Moore at Oregon. He was there for a year behind Dylan Gabriel after they got him to transfer out of UCLA. Ty Simpson for years and years and years of Bama. That's what's going really on the quarterback. If they're committed to going and actually sitting and waiting or they're like, fuck it. I want to go somewhere else and play now. Yeah. Situations are situational.
Starting point is 02:24:40 All those things for Ohio State that Julian's saying. Obviously, Jeremy Smith tweet, the losing to Indiana in the Big Ten championship. Yeah. We all know. I think we all know. What's that? They're going to be motivated. Ohio State's about to be some motherfuckers in this playoff, I think. Yeah. I think if anything tells us about, like, human case studies. Yeah. Whenever you get a bunch of elite dudes to feel disrespected, it normally, even if they actually are, it's warranted or not warranted.
Starting point is 02:25:13 But if you just get them all to believe that they are disrespected, man, what that's, does for a group, AJ, is special. And I think Buckeyes fans, you couldn't even wait for me to finish what I was saying there about saying when you saw it, yep, that's a good thing. That is a good thing right there. There's a lot of that happening with the Buckeyes, AJ. Yeah, it's a great thing seeing Julian saying like that. Obviously, you feel bad for him in the moment, but guess what? Like all those O. Lyman, they're going to be going to be going extra hard through the whistle. There's that defense. They're going to be standing up for their guy, and they want people to know how good they are. I mean, you guys were on the field pregame when they played Tennessee last
Starting point is 02:25:46 year at Ohio State in the freezing cold like that that warm up that whole session like that had a different feel to it you know like that was a pissed off football team absolutely pissed off coaching staff and everybody and they just yeah they started out and they didn't look back so I'm not saying everything goes as swimmingly as that last season did it's always a roller coaster up and down but I think Ohio state's in a great spot I mean they demolished everybody it was just uh from jump too oh yeah and you talk about jack sawyer and the boys as the shirtless Tennessee guys were running around the field trying to tell everybody how tough they were. Jack Sawyer and then were like, all right, let's fight that.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Like, actually, let's go ahead and do this. It was a special time for that Buckeyes team. Can they find that magic again? It feels like society is giving them all the ingredients they need. Yeah, and they got the toughest road, you can argue. Sure, they do have a buy, but they get the winner of A&M and Miami, so who knows what's going to happen there, but I think we all have our assumptions, and then possibly Georgia. Like, Georgia's been just as dominant. Lane. No, no chance. And Ole Miss also, no chance. So Georgia, you could argue, has the easiest
Starting point is 02:26:53 path, you know, save Ohio State to get to the Natty. But that Ohio State, you know, that by week, we've talked about it being bad, might be a massive one for Ohio State to rest, especially after those two go to war. I'm appreciative that football is back up and running for them this weekend. Last year, it felt like forever. I don't know if it got changed or if this is the same schedule as it was. But boy, I'm thankful Friday kicks it all off, Saturday kicks it all off, and we get rolling. The teams with the buys last year did not benefit from
Starting point is 02:27:20 them. I felt like they were actually more rusty than the teams that got to play, but it wouldn't have mattered if they didn't, we shall see. And what these teams look like just two weeks after the season ends for all of them as the transfer portal was right in the middle of all of this. So it's crazy town to be alive, we'll be live
Starting point is 02:27:36 from Texas A&M hosting Miami on Saturday at noon on ESPN to and the ESPN app. We're so, I mean, it's outrageous that we're allowed to do this. Just every year. This is one of those things that we're doing that we think is just so stupid.
Starting point is 02:27:54 It's like Super Bowl Radio Row when we're there. We think it's so stupid because how nice the set is, how many people come by and what we get to do. Like, this is outrageous. We get to do this. This is one of those ones where we're living to dumbest lives of all time and it will be fully on display on Saturday
Starting point is 02:28:09 at noon on ESPN2. and you can follow along as we realize that in the moment, Deb. I can't wait. This is my favorite thing to do, you know, since being on this sports media journey, being on the field, boots on the ground, calling the game from field level, you know, the interaction that we have with the players, sometimes the coaches, the fans, like other camera people.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Like, it's all off. Spanx, we'll see how he does. I saw him on TV the other night. Go ahead, AJ. No, the end zone view that we get, and we stand, like, on the field, basically, in the end zone until people, try to get us to move back a little bit.
Starting point is 02:28:43 It's a special thing to sit there and watch the biggest college football games of all time in real time, like right there on the field. It's just a wild situation. It's absolutely awesome. Shout to Omaha allowing us to kind of do and craft whatever we think would be good. Shout out to everybody that's a part of this. Shout out Ben Ward. I believe he's back.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Shout out, Dish. I believe he'll be back out there. So we'll be hopefully making the game better if you were to find out. follow along with, although Fowler and Herbstreet will obviously have their call on ABC and ESPN, I assume. We are available on ESPN, too, for an alternative option. Now, we can't really see the names. No. We don't know how big of a gain it is. Always a difficult thing to kind of see. Is that a three-yard gain or a 13-yard gain? Not 100% sure from our perspective. That's going to be difficult for us to tell. So the first quarter, we might be trying to find our way back
Starting point is 02:29:38 in there. And we're lucky and thankful to do it. been there before too this would be my first time it looks unbelievable on TV yeah they are they're all in like yeah they are all in even when they were asked that place was all in yeah now they're really fucking good and they are it's a special place man I I've talked about
Starting point is 02:30:02 this last week whenever we mentioned this that we're going to do it every time I came back and I think you guys would be able to correct me here or not game day when I come back on Mondays And we chitch out about places. Obviously, good conversation about the spots. Hey, this food was this. Crowd was like this.
Starting point is 02:30:18 Felt like early, they maybe weren't in or they were in. Then they felt late. Like, there's always like a recap of the College Game Day universities because I get a chance to go and experience things that like not everybody gets to do. It's like, it's a very cool part of that entire thing. It's just seeing how certain places operate. College Station, I think, always was a very jovial conversation on Monday morning about because I was gifted full fucking cowboy fit.
Starting point is 02:30:41 the second time I was there. Hat, fucking buckle, boots, the whole thing, like, hey, welcome back to town, just want to make sure, and the guy, full on, fucking, I mean, it was just like, very every time I've been down there, I've been very thankful. I think that's come across in our conversations. Yeah, without a doubt, and then it's just kind of the cherry on top
Starting point is 02:30:57 that you know if you're going to Texas A&M, the dudes are, oh, the dudes of dude perfect are probably always, you know, a stones throw away. Tyler somewhere, you know, purple hose or somewhere. So that's something I've been thinking about as well. I was like, holy shit, am I maybe going to meet the dudes this weekend? There's a chance.
Starting point is 02:31:15 We should have Tyler do something on the simulcast. Yep. Not a terrible idea. Take a snap in the game. Well, I don't know if we can get a uniform on him. We're going to have to check his eligibility in that whole thing. Get him to dunk on the goalpost. He can dunk on the goalpost, I bet, for sure.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Trash can, for sure, right? Just easy. Oh, yeah. I mean, we get easy trash can, Gatorade bottle. Just old school. I mean, that's the most basic trick shot. Hey, this will be for a $100,000 giveaway on X. We'll give 20 people $5,000, Tyler, if you're able to bury this Gatorade bottle
Starting point is 02:31:51 or a bottle of some sort of into a trash can. One shot only, Tyler. One shot only. No one, Tyler, he's drilling that. And making that kickdown there last year. Outrageous. Thought he had no chance. I think he kicked a field goal, too, on their channel, like, threw an upright.
Starting point is 02:32:08 that was like this. Unbelievable what he's able to accomplish. That's the dudes. That is him. College football, we appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, here it is this fucking guy. Boom. Easy.
Starting point is 02:32:18 He had to play soccer, right? Virtual goal. He owns a soccer team. Everything. He owns everything, too. He does. And that body armor tastes damn good and refueles you. Nice.
Starting point is 02:32:31 All right, Tyler. We'll see you this weekend, hopefully. Okay, ladies of gentlemen, it's time to do something that we get to do every single Monday, which is kind of test the temperature as a, fan bases around the entire country. How's everybody feeling about their teams? How's the fanhood? And how are the mindsets?
Starting point is 02:32:47 Well, I put out a tweet saying, hey, I want to hear from you. Let me know how you feel and what do you think needs to be done. All you got to use is, hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But? And Ty goes through him and finds his favorites. It ended up being the number two trend on X. We appreciate everybody participating.
Starting point is 02:33:04 And obviously, we know it's not about us. It's about Ball. Let's get to the tweets. This one's from Ball. Austin Con or Big Patriots fan. Hashtag I don't want to react, but... New England has everything in front of them still. We all wanted that victory.
Starting point is 02:33:16 Bad, but that isn't the plan. Vrable is going to use this loss like HGH to get the boys juiced up for the playoff run that this team is capable of. I agree, Con, man. I don't know about the HGH. Maybe the horse stuff that people were taking back in the day. I think this is everything that Vrable could have ever wanted
Starting point is 02:33:32 for motivation for a young team that hasn't really been here yet, Con Man. Yeah, no doubt about it. I think Sunday was a big time. This is what it's like to have an MVP and this is what it's like to be in an MVP conversation. Drake Major is not there yet. The team as a whole
Starting point is 02:33:47 I think you could argue is not there yet. Injuries on both sides for the bills and for the Patriots, but if they can get healthy and if they can close the right way to the season rather, I do think there's a chance they can go on and run, but once again, Josh Allen, putting on that cape, he's Superman in the snow, baby.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Yes, he is. And I don't know if there was snow. I know it was cold. I appreciated J.J. Watt in real time accurately describing what Drake May did there. Arm punt. 49-yard arm punt right there. Balled down inside the 10. We'll take that over a punt. I appreciate
Starting point is 02:34:19 that piece of information out there. Trayvion Henderson obviously has a couple of explosive plays and scores. He scored too soon, though. Did he score too soon? Is potentially the question. What was the time of possession in the second half, Conman? Yeah, in the second half, the bills had the ball for 21 minutes, 15 seconds, and the Patriots
Starting point is 02:34:35 had the ball for 8 minutes, 45 seconds. the biggest thing, too, third quarter. They had 10 total place, one rushing play. If you go back and look at it, I think they average 9, 9 in a quarter per rush. But we just did not have the ball enough in the second half. Josh Allen is still Josh motherfucking Allen. And yes, James Cook is very, very good at football. And so are the Patriots, though.
Starting point is 02:34:58 You know, you could be a good team and lose late right now. Like, teams are good right now. The only thing it matters you don't lose in the playoffs. Now, granted, it's possible, but you're going to lose a game or two here down the stretch to a team that's very good and also capable of doing what you're doing. Absolutely. A lot of people were looking at this game is like the test. Okay, Patriots, great record coming off the by week. A pretty good opponent, especially with Josh Allen, that quarterback coming in your house. You've got a chance to get the hat and T-shirt.
Starting point is 02:35:24 And then he just kind of got outplayed down the stretch. But Josh Allen, he's going to do that to a lot of people leading the NFL in fourth quarter passing yards and touchdowns. And they kind of on the flip side, you know, Bo Nicks was kind of the same thing. hey, can he do it against a good team, good Packers? So I think the Patriots still be in it at the end, but it will be tough at this point, especially with 15 been out, to bet against Josh Allen.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Okay, so that's what I was about to say. Down the stretch, you think Josh Allen can do it this year? And do you think it'll be held against him that he didn't beat Patchmo? So Josh Allen goes through the AFC playoffs here and gets to the Super Bowl, which obviously the Buffalo Beals have been trying to do for some time and had a team in our eyes
Starting point is 02:35:59 to be able to do that over the past few years. If they were able to do that and do everything and go, this offseason, they would immediately say he didn't have to play my home, so that's exactly the reason why, which is kind of bullshit, but that's a world that we live in. But this bill's team, you think they can do it? Yeah, I think that would be stupid if people held it against them. Because
Starting point is 02:36:15 Mahomes, if he was hurt, let's say week three, maybe, but since he got hurt when they were kind of already eliminated, you know, he didn't make it to the dance. So if Josh is able to get to the dance and then make his way to the Super Bowl and win the championship, that won't be held against him. The defense, the run defense, is their
Starting point is 02:36:31 biggest hills. So, Allen, this offense, historically, he's been unbelievable in the playoffs. If they can go and put up 35, 40 points a game and kind of take the other team's rushing offense out of it, yes. But yeah, with Mahomes out of the picture, I think they can make a run and win at all.
Starting point is 02:36:48 Yeah, and we started going through all the teams and we're just putting ourselves on a Friday having to pick the games and we're like, you pick it against Josh Allen with bump, you're picking against Josh Allen with bump and it's like, am I picking the bills? Am I picking the bills right now? I never could have expected that at this stage, but they are
Starting point is 02:37:04 so fucking good, especially because Josh Allen is so fucking good. Yeah, very interesting, too, if you look at this playoff picture, like, would you want to be, and I'm asking you guys, like, would you want to be the two-seed or the six-seat? I'm not
Starting point is 02:37:20 sure if the bills are five or six, but if you're the two-seat and you've got to play the Texans at home and then possibly play, you know, who knows, the Jags or whatever, like what would you kind of rather do as far as path? Of course you want home field, but do you want to play the Texans in the first round?
Starting point is 02:37:37 Because now that's what I'm looking at as a Patriots fan. Like, shit, that 5 or 6 is still not sure about that. That seat, okay, that 6 seed almost might be better than the two. Yeah, I think C.J. Stroud and the Texans defense is a scare. I think that is going to be a hard out. Yeah. I think that Texans defense is a nightmare. Now, I'm not saying that the Broncos defense isn't a nightmare, but we've seen a couple
Starting point is 02:38:01 people have success against them. Houston Texans defense since they've become the defense that they are. It's not a lot of good times. Nobody's having real good. The NFL does not want the Houston Texans in prime time down the stretch in the playoffs. Because what they are going to do, the other team's offense, which is where all the stars are, is just going to smother them. That is literally what they have been. And then CJ is a guy. We know he can be a guy. If he performs as a guy, it's like with that defense, anybody can win. So it's like nobody wants the Texans right now. And they don't even lead the AFC South. The Jacksonville Jaguars do. It's a fascinating little AFC development. I say this with all due respect. And if you pop that back up there for me, Foxy,
Starting point is 02:38:40 if you're the if you're the AFC North winner who's going to be the four seed, you want the five seed to stay the same. If you're the Jaguars, you'd love the Chargers to drop to six. And if you're the Patriots, you'd love for them to drop to seven. And that's with all due respect to the Chargers, but I don't think you want to play Josh Allen. I don't think you want to play the Texas defense. So we should not be popping up a graphic that's wrong whenever you want to. It's not wrong? It's not wrong? No. Okay. So you said Chargers dropped to six. No, I'm saying if they dropped a six.
Starting point is 02:39:03 I'm saying if you're... Well, I don't understand how it works week to week because the bills have been the five seed for a long time and then I thought the Chargers were the six and then a week later they flip. But I know it's tiebreakers and all that shit. It just makes no sense. The Chargers are the five over the six because they win the tiebreaker with Buffalo bills based on
Starting point is 02:39:19 best win percentage in conference games. Yeah, which last week was different. That's why I legitimately did not know. Okay, got it. Yeah, I thought we potentially had that wrong. Shout out to the graphic maker for getting it right whenever we put it up there. But it is fascinating how, all this can kind of change the path to the Super Bowl, and
Starting point is 02:39:35 there's some really difficult ones. If you're up there, shit, if you're up there at top, fuck you, fuck you, you play. Yeah, you're right. We got good defense, too. We got good defense too. That's how players feel. Most players are. As they should. Yeah, they're worried about playing us is what you're saying. They're scared to play us, no matter what team you are.
Starting point is 02:39:51 Yeah, have to get to that belief at least. You know, have to get to that belief at least. And by the way, seven seats won a Super Bowl before. Anybody could do it. Anybody can do it. Let's go to the next ever reaction, This is from Epic Normie. Hashtag I don't want to react. But what they go say now, the Broncos are a killing machine.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Death, taxes, and a Broncos win every week, guaranteed. Longest win streak in the NFL. Longest home win streak in the NFL. Best record in the NFL. Best team in the NFL. Your Super Bowl. 60? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:26 Champions. Denver Broncos. I love this. from Normie. Are the Broncos fans flexing their shit in this or no? Yeah, I think Broncos fans have felt disrespected for like the last like six or seven weeks
Starting point is 02:40:41 which is kind of weird because I think it's maybe different for us because going into the season they were the Cinderella. That was everyone was picking them but it kind has been, people have been trying to poke holes in their resume as they've just continued to win and say, this is a great defense but Bo Nix just isn't there yet. Their offense
Starting point is 02:40:57 isn't good enough. Wait until these guys play someone good and then again, yesterday like that there was a moment there where like the packers were very close to completely taking control of that game and then uh if you i mean if you watch that whole thing it's not hard or it'd be very hard not to think like hey bo necks could go win these guys a super bowl like he he was outstanding yesterday and again their defense didn't play great all day but then in the fourth quarter when they got the lead and they needed to get stops i think they hadn't sacked love through the first three quarters maybe and they had at least
Starting point is 02:41:31 four sacks in the last, I don't know, five minutes of the fourth quarter. So it was like closing time when you absolutely have to have it. Like the Broncos just showed up. Bo, Drake, Jaden, Caleb. We're dancing with, we're dancing with it. Like greatest draft class in the history right now. Early, we're very fucking early. But boy, we are dancing with it.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Yeah, we're very early, but it's hard to argue at this point. Like, even looking at, like, Jaden, this year, sure, you can just call it a watch, you got hurt, but look at the progression of the guys and how much better they're getting. like Drake May and Bo Nix and Caleb have all made massive steps. Now, I don't know about Jaden. Hopefully next year he bounces back, but yeah, you can go ahead and look at nine. If I'm looking at the Vikings and you're just strictly from outside looking and not a fan at all, like you are definitely buying stock in nine.
Starting point is 02:42:20 You look at the teams that he's beat. He beat the Bears in prime time. And yes, it was just one good quarter and there's a massive comeback. But then in this primetime game in Dallas, he puts on a show. like he's he could be a big time you know player big time moments type of guy and he's acknowledging that his form and technique is ass like they they basically that's what they said last night colonsworth was like here's a side by side of him and josh they both are basically very much on their front foot they're off balance they've been able to do that because of who they are
Starting point is 02:42:50 their entire careers the vikings and j jj have acknowledged that but that's for him to work on in the off season then justin jefferson's brother was a quarterback i heard chris collinsworth say So, like, Chris Collinsworth talked to Justin Jefferson about not being a diva and kind of not getting pissed off. Justin Jefferson said, my brother's a quarterback, I understand what they're going through. But I think everybody there kind of acknowledges, like, JJ is nowhere near as good of a pastor as he could become or as good of a pastor as we need him potentially to be on some place. But that's only up into the right. The moxie, the leadership, all that shit seemingly is everything that JJ is. Yeah, he just needs to stay healthy because that was kind of his big thing as we talked ad nauseum about like, hey, this.
Starting point is 02:43:29 guy needs reps this guy needs to play and then how many games did he end up playing in this year like so that's a big part of it you know like he got shit on for that packers game at lamba but realistically that was like his fourth start of the season when we were in week 12 or whatever it was so he was kind of behind the eight ball this entire year but you certainly see glimpses of it every week yeah well yeah i mean it was just like when josh allen was just a freak show athlete with the great arm he's going to make a play every once in a while and then all the intangibles nine has well j j mccarthy has we'll see if nine is able to continue doing that
Starting point is 02:44:05 kill nine keep jj and uh we can't wait to see it i did not like that they put phil rivers face on to nine whenever nine was doing that thing he got nine happened to drake as well i asked he loan to delete joe burroughs too yeah he kind of deserves he got nine too he did he's been getting a lot though he is number nine but i asked Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:44:28 I guess I'm going to delete it. I did not. I did not love it. Jeez. That one's good. It is. With the face paint there. That's a hater report.
Starting point is 02:44:37 I mean, they're going to get you. That's what they do. They're going to get you. They're going to get you. They're artists on her. It looks good. It's very well done.
Starting point is 02:44:44 Which is why I thought Elon, people don't know if this is real or not. So fucking delete it. I appreciate you to ask them. The Burrow ones are getting worse than the nine at it, honestly. Well, the thing about Burrow just being so bummed out. I don't know if we have an overreaction for bro or not. I don't want to dive into it right now.
Starting point is 02:44:59 I don't think there was one. They've given up. They don't. He needs he needs a... I heard you. I heard you talk about maybe a little ceremony. I think so. It does feel like that's where we've gotten. Yeah, and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, by the way. I'm just saying there are
Starting point is 02:45:16 options to kind of get a little bit of a reset from our understanding of what could happen. Now, there's people that obviously have done the whole thing and said that they didn't like it or whatever, and it's been terrible. And I'm not saying everybody should do it. But there comes a time, I think, in some people's lives, whether it's football or other things that have drove them mentally to be to a spot where they can't get out of whatever. And it feels like this is an alternative to kind of change your perspective, change your
Starting point is 02:45:44 mindset and everything like that. And we saw it work for the positive for a guy who went on to go back-to-back MVP's whenever he was potentially searching for something as well. So, yeah, I'm not saying this is a guarantee that he's going to do this or he needs to do this, but I'm saying it feels like he's at a state mentally where it's like, I don't like what I'm seeing out of Joey B. Too talented, too successful, too good of a teammate, too appreciated, too like to be at a point in his life where he's not happy. You know?
Starting point is 02:46:11 Absolutely. You know what I mean, AJ? Especially like when you think about like whenever he's done playing football some days, like man, I wish I, like it is, like it is true. Like you wish you would enjoy the moments more that when you look back and you realize how special it is, which I'm sure he does. He seems like a very appreciative. dude but I don't know like it just doesn't whatever's going on it would not be fun right now
Starting point is 02:46:31 I think insincy Jamar chase said I don't ever have to ask him to uplift them and I might have to do that and then he's the one I kind of said there's a lot going on in people's lives and it's like Joey we want to let you know man you're great for ball you have been great for ball and we appreciate your contribution to sport and anything that isn't making you feel like that and life and society let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there brother let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there and let's just let's just keep it going you're special brother you're one of one and uh we need you to stay in ball because of how great you are now if it's strictly because you guys can't play for a super
Starting point is 02:47:10 ball this year everybody was kind of saying that was probably going to happen with the way he constructed your roster so it's kind of a give and take situation for this year hopefully next year even better let's get to the next ever reaction shall we this is from uh shipped it at shipped it. Hashtag I don't want over yet. But the chiefs are officially no longer the chiefs for the first time in a decade. And sadly, we don't really know
Starting point is 02:47:32 when or if they might be the chiefs again. The chiefs are likely going to look very different next season. Perhaps never the same. And that fucking wolf's just rotten in jail watching it all. Yeah. They need to break him out.
Starting point is 02:47:47 Yeah. Well, I'm sure he's trying. I'm sure he's trying. I'm sure he's trying. We need to keep him behind bars. That man is a psycho. If they want to win again. I don't know if it's him or... It's time to burn back right extreme. I did see a couple other chief super fans on banisters and stuff this weekend. It feels like they got a lot of those brewing over there.
Starting point is 02:48:09 But that's what happens whenever you win all the time. Fandom becomes super fandom. Casual becomes obsession. When you're on top of the world, sometimes you can fly a little too close to the sun. is that what happened to the Kansas Chiefs? We shall see. And can they reset? Is this a delay or a deletion of a dynasty, AJ?
Starting point is 02:48:31 This is a delay. You got Patrick Mahomes. You are not deleting anything. Amen, brother. That's how I feel as well. Hopefully shipped it can get back on board with that. Let's go to the next one. This is from Caldheim at God of the Voyage. Really? Is this who you guys brain to whenever you're doing voyages?
Starting point is 02:48:48 No, I don't know. This guy seemed like he's into some, like, goofy video game bullshit that's just that was my first take based on his profile Bill what's the video game the God of the Voyage Kyle he would potentially be a part of he's 30 seconds behind so we'll wait for him to catch up hashtag
Starting point is 02:49:04 I don't want to overreact but the bills are inevitable half our starters wouldn't even make rosters and yet as long as you have Joshua Patrick motherfucking Allen every game is within reach no lead is safe hear me now quote me later Buffalo bills are yours
Starting point is 02:49:21 Super Bowl 60. Champions. A lot of people crowned themselves as Super Bowl champions. I like that this time of year.
Starting point is 02:49:28 I like the hope. I like the optimism. I like that Joshua's middle name is Patrick and I like that they let James Cook. Shout to the Buffalo Bills. This is a huge win.
Starting point is 02:49:38 Belt the ass early. So showing the resiliency and I like the fact half our starters wouldn't even make other teams rosters debut. What does that mean you think whenever you talk about a squad?
Starting point is 02:49:47 I wouldn't go that far. But yeah, whenever you have Josh Island, like we said earlier, it would be hard to bet against me. If you're a fan of this team, you've got to feel very, very good about your chances going forward with the Chiefs being out of it with that history there.
Starting point is 02:50:01 But with James Cook, they can run the ball. Actually, it's based on their tight-in combination. Then some of the players on defense, Benford, who has been their best corner, he got banged up, and he should be back at some point during a run. And then Ed Oliver, who changed their run defense. He
Starting point is 02:50:16 tore his peck or bicep, and there's been some rumblings about maybe him making a late playoff return if they're able to get there. So, yeah, if I'm a Bill's fan, I feel damn good about myself. Magic The Gathering is the game that Cald Heem God of Voyage is a part of.
Starting point is 02:50:31 And what you heard there was Nick giving a immediate smart-ass response to that answer being delivered in the middle of your breakdown of the Buffalo Bills. Sorry, Bats. Which I appreciate and respect. But, yeah, they're a special group, AJ. I think he's what we're all saying.
Starting point is 02:50:45 I think they're a magical group, you know. Yeah, they're magical. Could someone explain Magic to Gathering how you actually play. Does anybody know? Well, it's very similar to that other one where you do the thing where you're around for a long time. You create a lot of stuff, you shake hands, and then you go around and do your thing. Oh, you bring?
Starting point is 02:51:00 Exactly. Dungeons and it's a card game, though, right? It's a card game, isn't it? It's in the name. You gather and there's magic. It's a more nerdy Pokemon. I think that's the best way to put it in my understanding. What? Yeah. Well, what are you doing, Pokemon, even? Maybe Burrow. I don't know. You know, you know, remember I found out that we weren't
Starting point is 02:51:16 going to win the Super Bowl because our offensive alignment we're doing it in training camp instead of paying attention what we had going on. You battle a Pokemon. Were you there for that? Were you there that year for that? Oh, I think so, yeah. It was outside of cafeteria. We all saw it. Yeah, that was interesting. You got to come over here.
Starting point is 02:51:32 You see it. You see it. Yeah. Then people died. Oh, yeah. They did. I mean, you got, you know. If you died doing that, that's on you, pal. You committed. You committed. Yeah. I mean, my dad told me that one time when I went Bigfoot hunting in the hills of Georgia. It's very true. If you died doing that, this one's on you. This is how this thing's over. We're not going to feel bad for you.
Starting point is 02:51:51 That's what he's saying. I said, wait a minute. You're doing what? With who? If you die out there, like, expected and also on you. Got it. I'm going to find Bigfoot, though. What if I fucking get them?
Starting point is 02:52:03 Didn't find him. And I'm alive. Win, win. Let's go to the next one, shall we? Tanner, Ron. Hashtack, I don't want to overreacts, but... This might have been an all-time bummed-out weekend. Packers had a nine-point lead in the second half,
Starting point is 02:52:16 and Super Bowl future went to absolutely. lute shite. I was thought to never give up by a certain man, but he too tapped out. I'm tapping on this season. Heal up, boys. I hope that this is not what this has become with John Sina and the Green Bay Packers tie. There are so many of these today. So many. Just so I saw that screenshot 20,000 times this morning probably. And I just said, you know what? I feel you, brother. I'm kind of feeling the same way. I'm not where I was this morning, but I get feeling like that, especially after watching Sina this weekend. Were you smiling while it was happening?
Starting point is 02:52:51 Because Sina was content with it. It didn't feel like you guys were really content. He was. He was. It made me laugh. So, yeah, I was smiling. Maybe you're content because you lose Mika. Now the expectation is we're not probably going to win. So maybe you do smile a little bit and just.
Starting point is 02:53:05 Yeah, I think now I don't have to be as disappointed if they don't win at all. Because it's like, you know. Sina creates the amount of his face. obviously coming into that thing this one is going to be around oh yeah I love that one all WWE put out the 4k version of it so it had another life another
Starting point is 02:53:26 Burroughs they knew what they were doing that it's good move and people say it was a bad ending it's gonna live forever bone for the business still crying yeah he's stupid was he like more was he more angry or more sad I think it was all the stages
Starting point is 02:53:43 angry early though very angry immediately, which led to his group texting and public posting. Some people tagged me in some of his post going good luck, Pat's going to fire you for saying this or whatever. It's like, you should have a group text. He was just in a group text. He's a lot to have his passion.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Yeah, exactly. He's a lot to feel how he wants to feel. And WWE's a lot to say what they want to say tonight, 8 o'clock Eastern, Netflix, WW Monday, Monday, they're all right from Hershey, Pennsylvania. We'll be there. Oh? His bone driving?
Starting point is 02:54:15 That's where he was going to drive to The Hardy concert For the opening weekend No it wasn't even that No it was Hardy Was it yeah I thought it was like someone A lot less than I thought it was like someone
Starting point is 02:54:25 A lot less than 3 and a half hours for Hardy Yeah 16 hour drive Round trip he was going to do Opening weekend of NFL season It was a meeting greet though Yeah and he didn't even have tickets to He was just going to stand outside the door
Starting point is 02:54:37 Yep Let's get to the next overreaction You deserve this bone This is from Noist Pants At J-Watt 23 hashtag I don't want to have react, but the Chargers are Joe Alt and Rashon Slater away from being
Starting point is 02:54:51 unstoppable. Defense is flying around, catching bodies. Herbert finding ways to win with one hand and no blocking. Give him his two generational tackles back and the rest of the league is fucked. I actually agree with that. Watching that game, they're on a smaller screen, they're on a smaller screen
Starting point is 02:55:06 up here. Herbert was just running for his life the entire time. And then all Chargers fans kept saying was, yes, this is what it has been, basically. They drafted offense alignment. They get injured. They try to fix it. They get injured. Jim Harbaugh says the only thing that matters is protecting Herbert. For some reason, they just can't get the Golden Goose any protection. And he's running for his goddamn life, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, you could, obviously things can happen, but you could argue, like,
Starting point is 02:55:33 hey, if his offensive line is halfway decent, then he doesn't have a broken left hand right now. And, like, their offense looks much differently, but you're probably thinking going into the playoffs, like, hey, the Chargers, you know, with an AFC that's kind of wide open, with the exception of a couple teams who might be a little bit better, like, their defense is unreal. You could argue, like, hey, this team could win a Super Bowl, but I think it's pretty evident with their offensive line struggles. Like, they're probably not going to win this. So I looked this up earlier when we were talking about Mahomes and how much he's run this
Starting point is 02:56:05 year and stuff like that. He ran 69 times this year and was sacked 34 times, okay? Justin Herbert has ran the ball 70 times this year and has been. sacked 49 times. 15 more than Patch Mahomes is getting banged up, plus another 15 hits running the wall or whatever. Herbert is special? I think we agree with that.
Starting point is 02:56:25 Is he enough to just be able to win this by himself, see me? It's hard. We rarely see that ever in the NFL. We saw that with Joe Burrow. He got the closest without having the offensive line that can actually protect you. You can get the shit beat out of you,
Starting point is 02:56:37 so no, it would be too tough. Tweet was great, though. You have those guys healthy who you thought they were. You drafted and paid them. They can go and win this. Super Bowl. They have everything else. They have weapons. They have the defense. They have all those things. But without an offensive line, we talk about every year with AQ in the trenches. You don't have a real shot. They feel snake bit by injury every year. I feel like this is the same story with the charges. And that is what really sucks, especially with a QB like Justin Herbert. Like, he is a generational type of guy. But it feels like every single year, they're dealing with injuries to the most important positions, too. Not just like a, you know, a lineback or not that. linebackers aren't important age yet calm down but like to the left tackles into their
Starting point is 02:57:18 pass rush or into their corner it's like almost every single year it is something vital yeah let's go to the next one here bear force one at bear don now 77 hashtag i don't want to overreacts but the nc north is the bears division beat the shite out of the brownie's jv team and shadoops another i nt toyotathon in green bay over fordathon in detroit over onward and upward seeing the playoffs where we will be hosting hashtag good better best bears are for real a jay it's a whole new culture there and this seems like it's about the next 10 years or so yeah it does seem like ben jonson's culture has got in there and his his offensive scheme is really you know taking place and Caleb i believe when there a couple times Caleb looked and like gave a little
Starting point is 02:58:07 thing to the crowd like oh i'm not cold or whatever a cold doesn't affect me i know he was feeling it pretty good so i think that's a big step for them and Also, for Chicago, credit to them in the grass. I'm sure they spray pin some of it, but it actually doesn't look like it's nine inches long like it usually isn't all torn up. Well, completely frozen. Obviously, it's going to be a sticky turf. We did see some pigeons on the ground during punts yesterday and also flying over top of the wide receivers. The pigeons like to get in there.
Starting point is 02:58:31 The pigeons were there whenever the football was shite. They certainly wanted to get a little bit of a closer view on a good Chicago Bears football team. Yeah, there's nothing you can say. It's going to make me think those birds are real. But should dopes, that is unbelievable. I don't know if I've ever seen a Shadoops. That was comedy without Roman Dunezay and DJ Moore and Caleb Williams. If they actually start to kind of get going together, Luther Burdened him, especially now for these rookies.
Starting point is 02:58:56 And, I mean, their defense has two or three picks every single weeks. Granted, it was Shadoops in the bronze. But still, they get their hands on ball. They do hold on them. 29, I think, or is it 30? The elite. Yeah, 30 picks is a greedy bunch back there. It's a greedy bunch back there.
Starting point is 02:59:15 Living off of turnovers, is that working in the playoffs? Not typically. Definitely not. I thought we were about a year out from the Chicago Bears being like Super Bowl contending team. If it's negative 20 and your quarterback's spinning it like that and you guys are thumping like that, I'm like, wait a minute. Maybe this team can have a chance, yeah. You can have a chance. It'll be close like no matter what.
Starting point is 02:59:37 Absolutely. Congrats to the Bears. Love what you're doing up there. are you at the good better or best state of the team currently and have you never let it rest yet and when does the good become the better and the better become the best if you haven't we shall see with ben john so let's get to the next one here is from dc man at triple i dc man triple i hashtag i don't want to overreact but the rams game broke darling he's been a shell of his early season self and needs to get his ginger head out of his ass and quickly before he throws
Starting point is 03:00:08 the season away like one of his four INTs against the Rams. If we lose Thursday, pack up this season. Thursday's gigantic for the NFC West. Yeah. We got Rams Seahawks on Thursday night. Thank fucking God. That is what's kicking off week 16. The
Starting point is 03:00:24 NFC West is the NFL's best. We all agree with that. Them kicking off week 16 special. And to his point, though, Sam Donald is going to have to be productive because we know Matthew Stafford and the Rams offense certainly are. We need Sam Donald will be, I'm sure he remembers last year and how, you know, his ending in Minnesota.
Starting point is 03:00:43 He knows he needs to play well down the stretch at the end of the season. So, I mean, Seahawks are by no means out of it. Obviously, 11 and 3. They're still a very good team. But yeah, Thursday, what an awesome treat for us, actually, to get a great game like that on Thursday night. The lions are lurking, obviously. But here's the top four odds-on favorites to win the Super Bowl. The Green Bay Packers plus 750 post-MICA loss.
Starting point is 03:01:04 Philadelphia Eagles plus 550. They get a huge win over the Raiders. saw Bradley Cooper at the game. It's good to see Bradley Cooper out there having a good time being happy. The Seahawks plus 350, they just ruined Philly Rivers' entire life. And then the Rams plus 170. This is to win the NFC West. Are these the odds?
Starting point is 03:01:21 Yes. Oh, this is to win the NFC as a whole. Yes. Got it to win the NFC as a whole. So whenever you talk about it, you're talking about those four teams whenever it comes to the Draft King's odds, and we get two of them on Thursday night. That's awesome. Huge.
Starting point is 03:01:35 Oh, yeah. This is what it's supposed to be. Yeah. This will pretty much decide home field advantage. I was going to say that, yes, it will. And there's a team that isn't on there in the San Francisco 49ers. They still have to play Seattle. So if Seattle beats L.A. on Thursday night and then the Niners beat Seattle,
Starting point is 03:01:50 Niners would be the one seat, I believe. Well, let's see, because the Niners got a big one on Monday, which leads to this. Michael Jenkins at Squirrelman 69. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but Colts Garden of Super Bowl. Okay. We got Grandpa Rivers. throwing piss missiles out there and putting the best team in the NFC in a dog fight for their life.
Starting point is 03:02:12 We easily ramrod every AFC team going forward. Get ready for the dick down, Jax. Love that. Jags just had the best game of their lives. They're on top of the AFC South. Michael Jenkins says, not for long, my friends, the coach just did what they did to the Seattle Seahawks who are a special
Starting point is 03:02:27 team, special unit. Everybody's talking about Phil wasn't really able to do anything. Have many teams been able to do anything against the Seattle Seahawks? Nope. Let's talk about this defense without a bunch guys, DeForest Buckner, may be back soon. Oh, maybe back soon. Obviously, sauce out, ward out.
Starting point is 03:02:44 We got a lot of injuries on defense aside. We held them the six field goals. Sam Donald has been historically great. So I can see why Squirrel Man would be pumped about the Indianapolis Colts. There's a lot of Colts fans that wanted to bow out. There's a lot of very angry Colts fans after this loss. A lot of people saying mean things about the coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:03 Staying this loss? Oh, yeah. Big time. I wanted to pick, like, a positive one because I thought all the river stuff was just, like, really cool. You know, I mean, like, even if you're not a Colts fan, like, that was awesome, watching him go in there damn near beat Seattle. But, yeah, Colts fans didn't take it that way. This was basically the only positive overreaction there was for the Colts. A lot of it was basically like, well, Grandpa River shit is depends again, a lot of that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 03:03:29 A lot of people are about done with Coach Stinking as, you know, they want to sign. Yeah, I know, but no one knows what his real name is anymore. Shite. It's coach Steichen. Shane. Shite Sinking. His name's Shane Steikin. We almost beat the fucking seeds.
Starting point is 03:03:47 Why were people so upset because I believe everyone was making fun of the Colts all week, and they were going to get blown out, and they were 14-point dogs, and then they almost won the game, so why is everyone something? I have no idea. That logo is way too, you know, goopy. It's just no footing out there. Yeah, it's very slick. And whenever you have that much tape on your ankle,
Starting point is 03:04:06 Once that starts sliding, it's like the bottom of a stilt. Yeah. You don't wear a cleats either. Of course not, because they don't want to roll. See, where are new balances? Like the little nubs. Yeah, turf shoes. He had to pull him out of a trophy case, too, from my understanding.
Starting point is 03:04:19 I mean, he popped up. You're damn right, he played. Yeah, of course he did. Oh, shit! You got to remember, he's seen his defense a thousand times. That's his juke. That was his juke right there, not his slipping fault. Robo dope.
Starting point is 03:04:31 All right, last one here. Last one from Nick Yada yada at W. at Wise Man's Fool. Hey, hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but... Lions still have a good road to the playoffs. Need three wins versus Steelers, low-scoring offense.
Starting point is 03:04:45 All right. Sub-500 Vikings, bears whom we've already beaten. Compared to zero wins in 2008, this is a parade. Toughen up, Lions, newbies. MCDC will duct-tape team to the victories. Now, Foxy,
Starting point is 03:04:59 you like where Nick Yada-Yot is coming from? Or have you kind of given up hope too when the Rams just literally pound you guys right into the dirt right down the middle of the middle. I love absolutely everything about this tweet. Normal Lions fans know, hey, you've got
Starting point is 03:05:15 three games left and you can make the playoffs we're in a good spot, baby, and guess what might happen, all right? Let's say the Packers beat Chicago, boom, we just got to beat Steelers, Vikings, and then Ben Johnson, MCDC for the playoffs would be an absolutely
Starting point is 03:05:31 epic game. So that's what I'm hoping for. That's all Lions fans are hoping for. this point. That'd be a, that'd be a football storm. Oh, yeah. That'd be a lightning end. That'd be awesome. Good, better, best. First, I'll tell you what, Mayor. Yeah. In Chicago, everyone says golf can't play in the cold. Oh, perfect for a.
Starting point is 03:05:56 And Caleb can. Caleb can play in the cold. The Lions absolutely embarrassed them last time. of people are saying MCDC ran up the score on Ben Johnson. MCDC's calling a great game. I mean, this offense is rolling. It's really the defense just can't stop shit right now. Yeah, and
Starting point is 03:06:17 they're right down the middle of you guys. Yeah. I mean, if they're calling Shadoops in minus five degree weather, or me calling him Goops. If Jared Goff, it goes in there with the season on the line and plays an egg in negative 10 degree weather. Gooplofsky. I can see the me
Starting point is 03:06:33 up. I can see you. Yeah. Jared Goops. Through another pick today. Yeah, exactly. Throw that in there. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we just have great ball going forward. We expect that tonight.
Starting point is 03:06:45 Let's make our picks before we get the hell out of here. AJ, Miami, traveling to Pittsburgh. Going to be 17 degrees tonight? Yes, sir. It's going to be beautiful football weather and accruher. The lights are going to be bright. The yinsers are going to be in abundance. And Tuo Tonga Voloa leading a physical.
Starting point is 03:07:04 Miami Dolphin Squad are three-point underdogs taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers who still have everything in front of them whenever it comes to maybe going on a Super Bowl magical run. AJ, you and I pretty close this weekend as we saw the field.
Starting point is 03:07:22 I was 9 and 6, great to be here. You were 8 and 7. Great to see you continuing to see the field well. So Debut, we will start with you to kind of set the tone, set the trend. You obviously not with us on Friday, so you're not a part of picks graphic, but every Monday, you kind of lead the way here. Do you like the Steelers favored by three at home? Or do you like your Miami Dolphins with 53% of the public
Starting point is 03:07:44 bets traveling to a very cold Pittsburgh? Yeah, if you just look at the environment, the time of year, a team been around over 500. History will tell you the Dolphins will lose this game. But it's a brand new Dolphins team since kind of mid-season. Since week eight, they're right in the top of the national football league when it comes to deploying six or more offensive linemen. And they've been running the ball downs people's throat. So I'm going with the Dolphins to definitely cover. I want to go. Actually, I'm just going to win.
Starting point is 03:08:11 I got a win on the road. It's a big game for both ball clubs. I'm going to Miami to win. Dbutt says straight up, Miami Dolphins. I don't need the three. Let's go to one half of the hammer. God. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino.
Starting point is 03:08:22 Gumpy, your final thoughts. As AJ and I make our picks. It's time to saddle up, boys. You got to kill the allegations. It's been too long. You got to win in the fucking cold, and you got to do it on Monday. day night. Here we go, boys.
Starting point is 03:08:36 Here we go. Dolphins, here we go. Whoa. Dolphins go to Super Bowl. Here we go. That might have been it right there. What you guys just did. Legit. That in the microphones on this day
Starting point is 03:08:53 might have been the thing. That kind of changed everything that happens tonight. Tone, before AJ and I make our picks, how do you feel about what just happened right there? How do you feel about Robert Morris saying, yeah, will help you out. How do you feel about Inzers potentially boo and renegade after the long day and long night, prime time
Starting point is 03:09:10 game? And how do you feel about the Miami Dolphins, maybe being a more physical team, and you guys being without T.J. Watt at this stage. I'm going to take those in order, okay? I am not surprised at Gumpy and Debutt slid dolphins in there for going to Super Bowl.
Starting point is 03:09:26 They are not the tougher team. These can't be with that color. I am worried about some of the injuries for the Steelers tonight. Both of their left tackles are out. That's right. The starter and the backup are out. T.J. Watt is out. The best corner is out
Starting point is 03:09:41 also as well tonight for the Steelers. A little worried about injuries, but Mike Tomlin doesn't lose on Monday Night Football at Home. Steelers don't lose on Monday Night Football at home. They got the color rush. They got the gold end zones. Aaron, 17 degrees. That's where he likes to live. Ben Rothersberg in the building. Sevens in the house. Joey Porter's in the
Starting point is 03:09:57 house. Fifty-Fives in the house. Yeah, it's going to be a good night. AJ, with all that being said from both parties, potentially grabbing the terrible towel and spitting on it while singing the song for the Steelers. And Bobby Moe is a traitorous school that you should never go to. Oh, Mama. Oh, my life on the long. Are Yinzer's booing tonight or not, AJ?
Starting point is 03:10:23 What do you like? I think if the Dolphins somehow come in there and they establish it, they're the more physical football team, the Jensers will absolutely boo this team out of aquasure. So I think because of that, the Steelers are going to be heavily, highly motivated, I guess I should say. And I want the Steelers minus three all night long. All right, I'll do the same. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Overreaction Monday.
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