The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1471 - TOP 5: NFL Week 15 Recap

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys break down the biggest storylines from week 15 of the NFL season in the TOP 5. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's time to get to the top five, top five, tough five, tough, top five headlines coming out of week 15 of the NFL season, driven by ram truck. And what you do know about ram trucks is the hemi V8 is back. It's fired up and ram, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, mary on the go. Motor trend has chosen to ram 1500 as it's truck of the year. Wow. Wow, we're at awards. Wow. That is.

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But let's get to the top five headlines of week 15 of the NFL season. Listen, we're in prime football season. We're in the time of year where football teams are playing their absolute best. So your team's going to lose a game potentially. team, it's not over until it's over. If you're still in it, it's okay if you lose. So if you're the Patriots and you lose to the Buffalo Bills after having a 21-point lead, it's okay. That's going to happen. A lot of good football teams. What you can have happened is you can't be deemed from the playoffs and go. Listen, new teams have been added to the playoffs gone list. Now,

obviously Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, commanders, giants, Falcons, Saints, and Cardinals had already said, what are we playing for? Absolutely nothing. Maybe the future. Add in the Bengals. And I'll tell you what, with this Bengals team. Oh, man. They get their ass beat by the Baltimore Ravens, still lurking in the AFC, the Baltimore Ravens. But from what Joe Burrough said last week, where Joe Burrow

was saying, like, what's the purpose of doing? Period. This kind of sucks, man. No, I haven't any fun. It's kind of stink. I don't know. Am I a football player anymore? Then you stink yourself. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

We need you to be enjoying this. We need you to be loving this. Also, you're the quarterback of an NFL franchise, Cincinnati Bengals, who have bet good on you. Can't have you wondering in the middle of the season whether or not this is what you're supposed to be doing. Then he had the opportunity to get on the field in the AFC North Battle against Baltimore Ravens.

Another team that's kind of been in the year and make up for it, maybe start having some fun? Nah. Yeah. He stunk. Zero fun. They stunk. They get absolutely obliterated by the Baltimore Ravens.

How Van Nuoy makes a heady decision, get the ball out of his old-ass hands, and they take a pitch six all the way. back. But the Ravens absolutely thump the Bengals. And going into the game, we wondered if Joe Burrow likes football. Now we know there's no way he can enjoy anything about this. So, Dee, but my question for you about this Bengals team is like, hey, whenever you sign Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to number one wide receiver contracts, and you pay Joe Burrow. And it doesn't seem as if you're investing in the defense at all. And your offense align moves have never really worked. Will you ever win with this particular recipe. Everybody that knew

ball going on his season said, probably not. Like in the history of ball, this is not a way to win. But if you don't win, life is not fun. Is Joey B. at the situation now where because they suck and because there's no Super Bowl dreams and aspirations, he's not enjoying what he's doing? Or do you think maybe

Joe Burroughs a human and there's some stuff going on in his life plus the fact that they're ass that maybe it's combining right now for not a great time of his life? And we shouldn't worry about what the future holds for Joe Burrow. This is just a chapter or an era that will move on? I'm not worried about Joe Burrow.

Yeah, I'm not worried about his future. You mentioned it. They are humans. They are dealing with a bunch of things. But when you are a franchise quarterback, you know, people don't necessarily care about that unless it's, you know, something huge or huge tragedy. Everybody knows about. If you're a franchise guy, you know, you're getting paid a ton of money. You talked about the receivers getting paid. Joe Burrow was a big part of the receivers getting paid as well. Now, people in charge of putting the team together, you can still have to put a team out there

that can get out there and compete. So to be on this list, to be eliminated, before week 15 is even over, that's never where you want to be with one of the best young quarterbacks in the National Football League. But I'm not worried about the future of him. I don't think we knew Budd was going to be in the building. I think that had a huge effect on the game. Obviously, Lamar showed up in the AFC North battle, but I hate to see Joe Bro at this point in the season, potting. Yeah, and I don't want to get it. It does seem like he's pot a little bit.

He doesn't seem like he's potting, but we would like to let him know. We're big fans, Joey. We love you in the football world. We appreciate everything you've done. But it feels like with the way that team is constructed, we didn't know if you're ever going to be able to win a Super Bowl or not. So we hope that's not necessarily what is keeping your happiness alive. We hope it's the process.

We hope it's you becoming the greatest, which you certainly can. And maybe I don't want to throw it out there, but we've seen some people in the past have been going through some things, go down to a rainforest in Central, South America, and come back with a whole new mindset and win an MVP. And do it again and win another MVP. So whatever it is, Joey, we hope you find it again. The Cincinnati Bengals are efficient.

gone from the playoffs, as are the Vikings after a huge win. I mean, J.J. McCarthy goes for 250 yards. He's grading in the end zone in primetime playing his best ball, still missing by a mile on some. Sure. But even admitting that he needs to get a lot better in the off season. So hopefully the future is brighter for this Minnesota Vikings team. A lot of important games left for them. Yeah.

For him, because these are valuable, very valuable reps for J.J. McCarthy. Yeah, and what I was, yes, I think very valuable reps down the stretch here for this Minnesota Vikings team. But what we're saying is there's no. meaningful games actually because they are gone from the playoffs. On that note, the Dallas Cowboys who lose in primetime 2-9, they are damn near gone from the playoffs. What is everything that needs to happen for the Cowboys? Yeah, so they have about a 1% chance to still make the playoffs. They're not dead yet. They just need the Eagles to lose all of their games, and they need to win all of their, the Cowboys need to win all of their games. So we'll see. Hey, Stranger Things have

happened. Yeah, Stranger Things, not a bad show from what I've been told and ever watched. it's Stranger Things certainly do happen in the NFL, but the Dallas Cowboys damn near gone from the playoffs. And what the fuck is a walkie-talkie doing in the owners? Now, they're saying it's for direct communications to the sideline for medical. So is every owner have a walkie-talkie that's not trackable or anything like that in communication? Is that going directly to that guy with the cowboy hat?

Is that a walkie-talkie strictly to the big cowboy hot medical guy? Nonetheless, we know the Jones family took some big swings this year. We know that they got rid of a superstar bona fide who is no longer finishing the season with the Green Bay Packers because of a believed to be torn ACO, which we are all hoping not to be a torn ACO and Micah, make a couple trades, do their thing, lose the nine in prime time, and now they're damn near gone. And then also the team that is eliminated from playoffs, which is very abnormal at this stage of the season. The K&C chiefs are officially gone. from the playoffs.

Yeah, they are. Which leads to the number four headline, a decade of dominance. A dynasty delayed or deleted? Well, this dynasty have to have a new chapter. Will this dynasty be able to continue for another 10 years, maybe another 15 years? Will Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes be able to carry it from one chapter

to the next, a la the New England Patriots? Remember the story of the New England Patriots? There was a 10-year gap between Super Bowl wins. Now, there was two Super Bowl losses in between those 10 years, both to Eli Manning and the New York Giants. Eli Manning probably getting into the Hall of Fame for those two in 2007 and 2011. But 2004 to 2014 is a 10-year gap where the Patriots didn't win a Super Bowl. They're still considered a dynasty. Will that be what happens to the Kansas City Chiefs?

Is that what we're staring down? Or, or. Rich John's a little older. Travis Kelsey, obviously. Maybe at the end of his. his entire thing. Andy Reid, it's talked about every single year. Is he going to keep going to keep going? Patrick Mahomes, is he going to be able to

continue to just put the team on his back? Or are they going to be able to reload and kind of renavigate what the future looks like for a potential dynasty? Or are they deleted? And are they done forever? Oh, no. That's the question we have to ask because they didn't make the playoffs for the first time

in 11 years. You're talking about record breaking stuff. Throughout the history of the NFL teams have made it to the playoffs consecutive amount of times. Patriots, obviously, forever. The Chief's number two team in the longest running consecutive playoff run. And then we see one pick from Darwin James right in front of Travis

Kelsey and all of a sudden it's over completely officially. And the Internet was waiting for their demise. The Internet was celebrating in all of our faces about the Chiefs being dead. But we've seen this before with another dynasty. Now, granted the Patriots once again, they continued to go. They continued to do their thing.

Chiefs missing the playoffs. Are they dead? Is it done? Or is it just simply delayed con men? Yeah, definitely. not done, maybe delayed. There's a chance you could argue, you know, maybe the Mahomes Reed dynasty together's done. You know, that's the one thing that is the glaring difference between the two.

Andy Reed is basically how old Bill Belichick was at the end, you know, right now. Yeah, they probably have 10 more years. As long as Mahomes is there, their dynasty will never be done. But it's definitely going to change a little bit. And I would assume that maybe they saw the writing on the wall.

You know, not many teams release a 10-part docu-series before a season, you know, to commemorate the three Super Bowls. They went to straight, the three, they've already won as well. But definitely sad. Anytime it goes out with a player on their shield, you know, Mahomes getting carried out. The vibe changes, and it is a bummer to see. You never want to see anything end like that.

Yeah, and if you think about the beginning of this entire run that the Chiefs had back in 2014, life was a lot different then. You remember the Ice Bucket Challenge got launched then? Oh, yeah. Remember Flappy Bird? Oh, yeah. Great game. Flappy Bird was in too many people's phones,

taking up too much time of people's lives. The person that created it was like, we got to get rid of this game. Deleted the game. People who had phones that accidentally still had Flapy Bird on it for some reason because they didn't update the software were being sold online for like hundreds of thousands of dollars because they were an ancient artifact, basically, this flap.

That was in 2014. Graduate high school then. High school graduated for Boston Connor his second time being getting that done. Happy was a song, Shake It Off from Taylor Swift. you think she was even thinking about Travis Kelsey whenever she was thinking, shake it off? I mean, 2014, a long time ago, a lot has changed in the world. And now we're sitting at a time wondering if this chief seems going to be able to continue to go in the future. Yeah, for the future, when you look at it, I saw a tweet yesterday about, you know,

the chiefs have a lot of work they need to do to this roster. And they are 31st in the league in cap space next year. They are $35 million over the cap for next year currently. So with all that needs to potentially be fixed with the Mahomes, injury that happened yesterday and then the cap situation it might be tough for a couple who i mean you still have patrick mohomes on that note about the patrick mahomes injury we're at that time of the year and we have been here for a while where an injury to the wrong position can derail everything going forward ladies and gentlemen it is uh it is my not honor

the opposite dishonor to say number three headline coming out of week 15 NFL sunday slate is injuries are dukey okay there's no other way to describe it we talk about dukey you're talking about absolute shite yep you're talking about nothing good you're talking about negativity at the highest degree you're talking about dukey man runny stinky absolute crappy dukey is what these injuries are and if you're falling along on red zone or all the different games these injuries all took place within about a two minute period mica goes down patrick goes down and then defante has sniper to his hamstring you're You're talking about three megastars who have had record-breaking years in record-breaking season

and record-breaking careers for these particular teams, all going down in a matter of two, three minutes. Michael Parsons, that was nasty. Little hyper-extension situation whenever he was just heating up and becoming a closer. Ty, your negativity about this particular injury has scared me a little bit, but Mike has become this damn important to this defense so damn quickly. Yeah, without doubt. I mean, you know, yeah, the Packers are still a good team, but, like, he is the difference

maker he has eight and a half sacks in the fourth quarter like there's a reason they were calling you know playing enter sandman and calling him mariana Rivera because the packers haven't really been blowing anybody out this year like the offense has been doing enough and then boom in comes micah to close out the game and it's not just him it's i mean it's no question if you watch the games he makes everybody better and you know is it one of those things where am i all doom and gloom do i think that it's just completely done with now no i don't believe that the Packers are still nine, four, and one. But it is very hard to imagine seeing him being out for the year. Like, now do I think they can make a deep run in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl?

Like, no, I don't necessarily believe that. That is still on the table. They could still do it. But Michael Parsons is the best player on their team and one of the best players in the NFL. And for it to happen at this point in the season, when they're just starting to get healthy, like it's a backbreaker. Green Bay Packers, obviously, team we thought could win a Super Bowl. Right now, odds on favor to win a Super Bowl, Los Angeles Rams, they lose their touchdown machine, their touchdown factory, their Devante Adams sniper while running a go route middle of the game. Obviously didn't look good anytime somebody pulls up with a hammy.

Obviously not good when you're 30-some years old. What are your thoughts here, Dee Butch on them losing Devante? Still have Puka. He's obviously insane. Puka is insane. Still have Tyron Williams, still have Blake Corum, still have multiple tight ends, even guys that I've never heard of making plays for him. But losing Devonte, this added weapon, not only down in goal line, but in third down

and in red zone. Is this going to be a big enough hit to derail the Los Angeles Rams or what should we expect? I don't think it will derail them. I think they'll still finish fairly strong. The thing about them is they've kind of changed throughout the system and morph this offensive to using a bunch a lot more tight end. So a lot of 13 personnel, so that's only one wide receiver on field. So now Puka can obviously be that one wide receiver.

even though Devante was that one wide receiver and 13 personnel for the majority of the season. But when you have another superstar like Puka who would still demand that coverage, still get the production, I think they will still be okay, especially with the run game and the defense. And hopefully with this soft tissue injury,

he can be back full goal by the playoffs. So this isn't a huge of a blow as these other injuries on this graphic. We'll stop by with Schaefter here at about 1240 to kind of see everything he's hearing. Devante, a little older now, though. Yep. Any muscle injury, obviously, in theory, the older you are.

But he's going to hop in that immortal chamber? Is that what's happening right now? Probably in the current. Probably slept in there. In his game, you know, it's not like he's a, you know, Christian Watson or like a burner. He got hurt too. You know, Jameson, yeah, William, a lot of injuries over there. So his game is finesse and making big time catches, reading coverages, being that matchup in a low-red area.

So I think when he is back in there full goal, he'll be the Devonte that we know. And then obviously Patrick Mahomes is the injury that we chatted about to even start this entire injuries are Duky. I mean, this is the face of the NFL. This is the man leading, you know, a dynasty right now in front of our eyes and our face. Before he was like 27 years old, he had already built up a goat-type legacy, a goat-type resume, multiple-time Super Bowl champion. Always remained a human. You know, everybody started hating him, obviously, because he's Patrick Mahomes. He's on top of the world.

Still would have beers with the boys, still kind of do his thing, was trying to live his life while being under. the microscope of being the guy who's leading the entire the biggest league on earth he put out a tweet obviously that was like hey i'll be back stronger than ever but whenever you see these types of stats you understand that we're in uh we're watching greatness happen and he said he'll be back stronger than ever don't know why this had to happen and not going to lie it hurts but all we can do now is trusting god and attack every single day over and over again thank you chief's kingdom for always supporting me and for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers I'll be back stronger than ever.

And we love that type of work ethic. We love that type of mindset. That is why he is, who he is. But this sucks for a league, Degbuck. This sucks for a league that we lose, Patrick Mahomes. Whether you love him or you hate him, when he's on TV, he's must watch. Yeah, you want 15 playing.

You want him in the playoffs. You want to see him. I mean, it's super unfortunate not only for this season, but we don't know how next season looks now for him or the Kansas City Chiefs. But unbelievable hit to the National Football League. It's crazy. He still hasn't. won't take a snap, you know, being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in his career.

And that list you just put up with him having five more wins at this point in his career. Is that, like that's ridiculous. If he's done, let's say obviously he's not done, this chief, this dynasty. If this chief's dynasty is over like we talked about a little bit ago, that'll still go down. It's probably Mount Rushmore dynasty when it comes in the NFL. He's got, I believe he's got two kids under the age of four or two right now. I mean. But he'll be back.

He's got nine months till September. So that's right on time, right? He'll be back. I agree, but let's just think about the human. Like, hey, Mama, Mahomes, good luck out there, man. Yeah. Got a guy. Not that, you know, he's MVP.

He's a starting quarterback in the NFL. Obviously, a lot of time is a lot of to do that. But now he's not going to be able to move. I mean, that is, there's a lot of stress. Just like whenever we're talking about Joey Burrow, it's not just like, hey, in the facility, it's in my life. It's like, hey, we got humans here, not just a video game. So whenever you talk about everything else happening with Patrick Mahomes,

we're only pulling for him for the good of the league. Yeah, and I think, you know, like, he's, I mean, he's obviously been banged up before, and I don't know about college, high school, all that kind of stuff. But, like, this is the first time he's had an injury to this magnitude, you know, same with like Micah, like those guys where all the sudden, for the most part, you stay healthy throughout your entire career, and then you get something like this where it's like, hey, you're going to be down for nine months.

Like that learning how to deal with something like that, when you've never had to deal with it before, like you can understand how it's quite the blow. Hey, we'll miss you, moms. By far the longest break. I know it's rehab and it sucks the injuries, but like every season he's gone at least to the FC championship or the Super Bowl.

So like that's a much short and offseason. So now you got to the offseason starts now. And that's be the longest by far that he's ever had. A LeBron run. Yeah. Yeah. I remember LeBron was making it to like the Eastern Conference finals every year for like 10 straight years.

And then somehow shortest off season and doing it again going forward. Patrick Mahomes had to do that. And this year he was running more. than ever. Running more than ever, hitting people more than ever. And that rarely happens as a goat's career goes forward. Normally as the goat goes forward, the contact gets less. This year he was running more, hitting more, getting hit more, and it's kind of a crazy how it's all gone. But to your point about the rest, I mean, recovery is not rest. It sucks. But he's about to go through sucks. All these injuries, every injury you hear about, all you hear is a timetable, like, hey, nine months he'll be back.

hey this guy should be back by the playoffs from that point of injury to when they come back sucks that old thing sucks hurts the amount of time that it takes the monotony of just having to do this little tiny things every single day very

rarely gets talked about we try to point it out Patrick Maham's life is about to suck to get back being healthy as is obviously Micah as is every other injury that we see take place so all we can say is Godspeed yeah and we talked about the cap there for a second he actually might get a pretty sweet extension, which is going to maybe kind of motivate them even more

in the middle of this offseason that you can continue to work. Yeah, maybe he gets that immortal. Maybe a couple of those in his backyard. Creates a lot of cap space, maybe gets a receiver, maybe one back from Miami. I don't know. Just things that could happen. See, Tyreek. Hmm.

You okay? I was just thinking about them. I'm not getting, I don't want to get too negative about it, but like, I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say it. What's like, I don't want to say it. Joey B. saying he's not having fun, it's like the way you guys built the team, we all thought you guys weren't going to be able to win, right?

Like Tyreek Hill, when you took the bag to go to Miami, the thought was you're not, you're not going to win. No. That was not a thought. That was kind of the thought. Hey, you're leaving a dynasty to go get paid down there. You're not, you're not probably not going to win as much. and then there's like, well, I want to win.

It's like, well, we kind of all, we all knew that this is kind of what the case was. It's just like Max Crosby, like Max, Max knows they're not going to win, right? Like that is kind of the thing. He just continues to show up, which we massive respect. Miles Garrett, you know, if he next year says, like, I'm tired of not winning, it's like, well, we told you, you knew, you even wrote it. Yeah, you're even wrote it like you're not going to win. So it was like, there's certain situations where it's like you kind of, I don't want to say sacrifice.

but you did kind of acknowledge that this was not going to be kind of with each other and then it kind of all happens but once again want everybody to be happy when everybody have cake and eat it to eat it too yeah speaking of it's got the number two headline out of week 15 the legend of old man rivers hey phil thank you man proud of you phil i am proud of you i'm very proud of you phil it's not just us obviously the boys in which he coaches down there in Alabama, the St. Michael's super duper football team that has made

back-to-back playoffs. Them watching Uncle Phil, coach old man Rivers, score his first touchdown in five years in an NFL game as he finds Josh Dines over the middle. They have an incredible lead. Wait a second or the Indianapolis coach in Phil Rivers all the way back.

This guy fell down, got back up. He looked agile, maybe the most agile grandpa in all of football. And after the game, whenever he gave a quote that I think everybody needs to hear. I think the baby face turned for Phil Rivers was in full effect. A lot of people burying the quotes for signing Phil Rivers. Now, once again, I would like to reiterate the fact, I am a Cam Newton fan.

Always have been. It's because I watch him play live. I think anybody that watch Cam Newton play or had to play against Cam Newton. Yep, my teammate too. Play with him. Exactly. He says Cam Newton's a lot of say whatever he wants about football. Cam Newton is football.

He can do whatever he wants. The whole thing about is Cam Newton a better quarterback than Phil Rivers. is a wild conversation to have because I don't know if Cam Newton just knows the entire Shane Stike in offense, which week 15 in the middle of a playoff run, I don't know if it's the right time to put somebody in that doesn't know the offense. Now, was Riley Leonard, who's been in the building all year, who's very athletic, was he a better option than Phil Rivers? I think that argument is certainly viable, but somebody that doesn't know the offense coming in in the middle of what the Colts are thinking and hoping is a playoff run doesn't seem sound to me. It sounds like you live in a video game world

as opposed to real life world where you don't just drop into a building and then download the offense and then you're on the same page as everybody so that you can operate a football team efficiently. Matt Ryan and the Colts had problems for these entire time because he couldn't learn the offense

or the verbiage and then the offense the line couldn't and it was an absolute catastrophe. So bringing in Phil Rivers felt like a move the Colts were like, hey, we're not giving up on the year and we need somebody that's able to fucking do our offense and do our things. And also somebody that's somebody that commands a little bit of respect, you know,

defense, offense, special teams, everybody in the building. Like, hey, we like that guy. And also a guy who happens to be doing something from a coaching standpoint that is incredibly inspirational. Listen to this quote from the post game from Phil Rivers. Hopefully, you know,

certainly I think of my sons and those ballplayers that I'm in charge of at the school that they'll say like crap, coach wasn't scared. You know what I mean? It's like, shoot. Sometimes you, there is doubt. And it's real and um you uh again you can you can the the guaranteed safe bet is to is to go home or to not go for it and the other one is shoot let's see what happens uh you know and so yeah i hope that in that sense that it can it can be a positive to some young boys you know or young people

it doesn't be boys but yeah it was phil oh yeah anybody can do nothing as the legend tab williams uh said and then him going on there go for it and the boys seeing it his kids in it. And also all of us getting a chance to see that was a special thing, a beautiful thing. And almost won it. Blake Groupie is a 60-yard field goal with less than a minute left to put the Colts in the lead. That's the longest field goal in the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Blake Groupie, this big. His guy is a monster. Groupie. Shout out to you coming back to the state of Indiana and making a big time kick for us. He walked right on the field too. There's no question. It was fourth down and there was probably a little bit of an indecisiveness,

fourth and three. What are we going to do? Groupie just walked his ass onto the field. Shane Syke and saw it and had to go, well, daggummit, I guess we're going for this field goal. He puts it through. Sam Darnel gets a big return from their special teams. Then they make a couple plays. And then Jason Myers puts his sixth field goal through the uprights.

And the Seahawks beat the Colts 18 to 16. But the story for me coming out of this is not only Seahawks are a damn good football team. And Jason Myers is unbelievable. He leads the league in field goals made this year. He's going to be all pro and a pro bowler. He's a special talent out there for Seattle. But also, the Indianapolis Colts didn't give up. They showed up.

And Phil Rivers, obviously, the arm isn't what it used to be. Made a couple big throws whenever we had to. And they protected his ass. And his messaging about, you know, you're a lot of go for it in this life. If you could have something, was special. I'll remember yesterday for a long time. Yeah, man, I really, really wanted to win, obviously for a ton of reasons. But Phil, for him to go out, it's something that I know I've never seen before.

Somebody would take five years off when they actually come out there. and have to play. And he was in full control. Like the first drive, he was up, you know, checking with seven, you know, eight seconds on the clock, you know, changing plays. Obviously his arm, it was what I expected, I guess, to see from his arm, wasn't it driving down the field a ton, but he made plays. And he had us in position to win a game in a hostile environment

against a very good football team. So I'm encouraged for him. And I think this definitely gives us the best chance to compete going forward with, you know, all of the available quarterbacks that are out there right now. You talk about a very good football team. Let's just talk about the number one headline coming out of week 15 in our eyes. The NFC West is the NFL's best. This group out here is outrageous.

Seattle Seahawks, obviously not on their home field advantage. This dude, no lace is sick. It looks so cool. This dude, very good at football. McDonald is defense, unbelievable. A lot of people are saying you needed a 50-some yard field goal to beat the Indianapolis Colts who are playing Phil Rivers. Colts are a good football team.

Colts are a good football team. And Phil knows everything that's going on. The Los Angeles Rams, outrageous. Matthew Stafford had an MVP like year. And then the San Francisco 49ers, Brock Bertie's doing his dance. Brock Perry's pump faking 20 yards down the field. San Francisco 49ers obviously beat the Tennessee Titans.

Everybody's doing that. But this Niners team with Christian McCaffrey with Brock Purdy, even though they're without Warner and Bosa on the defensive side, it's like are the Niners going to make a run at the Super Bowl? It feels like everybody but the Cardinals and the NFC West can do that. And this has happened in the past. Whenever the NFC West has been absolutely dominant, they have shown up as a Super Bowl champion.

Yeah, 2021, the 4-5-6 seeds were the Rams, Cardinals, and San Francisco 49ers. So it is one of those things where you would think, okay, maybe the division will cannibalize itself, but rather instead, you know, the best of the best, the team that won the division, the Rams ended up going on that Super Bowl run and winning the Super Bowl against the Bengals.

Yeah, so there's a chance here that the NFC West does it again. And I would say as a coach team that had to play, Seahawks this past weekend, and we've got the Niners on Monday, not football. We're going to find out if this NFC West is for real. Feels like the NFC West is problematic. AFC West, also very good at the football. AFC East has a couple teams at the top, with one lurking into Miami Dolphins. AFC North, everybody considers that to be the trashiest division in ball.

The AFC-South, Jacksonville, Jaguars in the league. Congrats down there in Duvall. And Texans are also problematic, number one defense in the NFL. Texans actually have better odds to win the Super Bowl than the Jaguars do right now. That's because I think the Texans defense is number one in the league. And I don't know if everybody believes in Trevor Lawrence, even though he goes for six touchdowns yesterday, five through the sky. They are for real. NFC North, things have changed now with some injuries.

And then the NFC South, who's going to punch their ticket to the playoffs is really the entire question. So that's top five headlines coming out of the NFL.