The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1473 - Watt Wednesday, Adam Schefter, Luke Kuechly, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys wrap up week 15 of the NFL season as AQ gives his top five offensive lines of the week as we go In the Trenches, while Darius Butler goes through the best and worst defensive back play of the week in Everything DB. Joining the progrum is NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter to chat about Tua Tagovailoa getting benched which might signal the end of his tenure in Miami, and more. Also joining the progrum is Texans Ring of Honor member, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt to break down week 15 of the NFL season, the TJ Watt situation, how impressed he was with Phil Rivers, almost playing for the Packers, and more. Later, 8 year NFL veteran at linebacker, DPOY, 7x All-Pro, 7x Pro Bowler, HOF nominee, and analyst for some upcoming NFL alt casts with Dan Orlovsky, and Field Yates, is Carolina Panthers legend, Luke Kuechly. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdown. On this Watt Wednesday, December 17, 2025, this sports program begins right now. Football! It's magical, and we have the incredible opportunity to talk about it every single day. What a dream life we have. As meaningful football is happening all around us, the college football playoff starts in just two days. And don't look now, week 16 of the NFL season starts tomorrow. Let's go to the toxic table.

That's Connor at Ty Schmidt. Conman, it is something historic happening with this NFL season where we don't know shit about anything at this stage. Yeah, zero division winners for the first time going into Week 16 since 2016. It is electric. Wow, a lot of question marks all over the place, including that NFC North Ty Schmidt, especially with the injuries that are taking place all around the league. Yeah, absolutely.

But, you know, hey, we said it. Everything's still out ahead of the Packers. Everything's still out in front of the Bears as well. So what a nice little showdown on a Saturday night. And then tomorrow night, week 16 of the NFL season kicks off in the NFC West, which might be the NFL's best. It might be the NFC beast as the Rams and Seahawks. Try to find out who's going to win that division.

Now, the other team will be in the playoffs, certainly, because of what the work has already been done. And we're kind of staring down a Vikings Lions situation here, although Vikings Lions last season was the last weekend of the year where they were trying to decide which was the one seed and who was going to be the five seed. But in this particular case, it's who's going to win the NFC West, which we all think is going to produce potentially the Super Bowl champion, at least the NFC representative.

Let's go to nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler tomorrow night. Ram Seahawks, so much on the line. Congrats to Amazon Prime is how we're viewing this one. And congrats to us as football fans. They got a bang. Yeah, we got a banger. We got bangers all weekend long with the prime time games. It should be a big one, two of the best teams in the National Football League.

Some superstars out there. I'm seeing Puka do some other things right now, not concerned yet on the field, but he's a dynamic receiver. He's going to have to have a huge game without Devonty out there. He's going to have to continue to have huge games if he's going to continue to do the things he's doing off the field, which we will certainly tell Oos, like, hey, the louder you get, the better you got to be. And that's just a part of the game. Everybody needs a note.

If you're going to start doing a lot of extracurriculars outside of football, which is certainly going to be very prevalent to Puka in L.A., with his personality, with who he is, with how good he is at football, with his generation, with his age, with his friends, he's going to have a lot of opportunity to do a lot of things off the field. We would like him to take advantage of all those things for the good of him, for the good of his family, for the good of his future. But also, if on the field remains great, it's okay. If on the field slips at all, they will be holding all of this against Puka. And that's just what life is like as a superstar, let alone in the city of stars where they can win a Super Bowl this year

yet again. Oh, yeah, absolutely. They got an MVP favorite pretty much frontrunner with Matt Stafford slinging it. Great defense. Obviously, we expect Devonte to be healthy playoff time. But yeah, they got everything in front them. And Pooka has shown us that ball comes from first. He'll keep the main thing, the main thing. So I got faith there. This will be the first ever Thursday night game with two teams

with 11 plus wins. Now, obviously, the Thursday night package doesn't carry all the way through the entire season. So getting to 11 wins takes a long time to get there. So two 11 win teams, two superstar teams, two potential Super Bowl teams kicking off week 16. And then guess what? It's not just Thursday.

that we got NFL football. It's also Saturday. We got a double header. Philadelphia and Washington at 5 p.m. on Fox. This Philadelphia Eagles team on Hard Knocks looks like they're having a great time. Yeah, they do.

It is crazy. The conversation around the Philadelphia Eagles team with what's happening behind the scenes, they just beat the brakes off of the Raiders this past weekend. 31 Zip. Coup was smiling. Kenny Pickett was crying.

The Raiders are going to have to start over yet again next season. And if Philadelphia Eagles said, speaking of starting over, this whole season could just start each week and we can run this thing all the way through the Lombardi. They have all the talent, they have all the ability. Do they have the team

and the camaraderie? We shall see on Saturday as they take on the commanders who sat Jane Daniels. Marcus Marriotto will continue it as they have lost their playoff hopes. And then the Green Bay Packers take on the Chicago Bears in an NFC North battle for who's going to be the number one seed, the number one

team in the NFC North. Ty Schmidt, Saturday football for you being meaningful for the first time in a long time as an Iowa Hawkeye fan. Good for you, Pat. Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I mean, Iowa went to the Big Ten Championship just a couple years ago. So we've had a lot of meaningful Saturdays. Thank you.

But, no, this is awesome. This is awesome. I'm very surprised that the Packers are still a favorite in this game. And then the best part really is, is I'm not saying we are going to get two blowouts in the college football playoff with, you know, two of those group of five teams playing in the exact same time slots as these NFL games. But we have viewing options now. Hey, if one of these turns to shite, you flip over to the NFL game, or if it's the NFL game, you flip over to the college football games.

That's going to be awesome. College football game, I believe, will be on the Ocho and on the Super Duper W. I think is where you will find those two games. Obviously, we cannot wait for that. Friday night, Alabama, Oklahoma kicks off the college football playoff. Then at noon on ABC, Miami takes on Texas A&M. Then once again, five o'clock you have an NFL option with the Philadelphia Eagles playing. Or you can watch at 3.30 on True TV.

Tulane will take on Ole Miss and then at 730 on TNT and True TV JMU will take on Oregon Oregon needs to watch it especially we don't know what Oregon's like on true TV no that's good point we've seen lizard lick towing on true

TV we've seen multiple other shows on True TV that are high performance elite performance cops is on true TV I believe live TV potentially was our live TV was potentially on there in one point we don't know what this Oregon team looks like on True TV.

And I don't think they do either. JMU team, 12 wins. They know how to win ball games. A lot of them. Don't be sleepwalking through this, Ducks. Don't be ducking around, Ducks, unless you want this JMU team to be the Cinderella story. Joel Klatte said, I'm sick of it all, okay? The NCAA March basketball tournament, March Madness, should be called March stupidity.

He said there's never any Cinderella's. The small schools that we want to win never go on to win. And Joel Klatte took an entire take, not just on college football, letting smaller schools into the tournament, but also turned his sights to basketball, I think that was a miscalculation because how much we all enjoy March Madness and how many smaller schools do go on a run. But what Joel Klaught was saying was echoing the sentiments of a lot of people about how in football it's not the same as in basketball. You know, there is like size differences and weight differences in every single physical combat

sport that there is. fighting, wrestling, boxing, there's weight differences because of things. In football, is there a chance that this could be a weight class disadvantage for JMU versus Oregon who has a top four paid roster? Okay, they're D-line, cross the front, all multi-millionaires. The backups for the front four on D-line, all multi-millionaires. JMU got a tough group. Ladies of gentlemen, joining us now as a man whose arms couldn't touch each other

whenever he was coming out. His hands could not touch each other whenever he was coming out of college. is a Remington Award winner. His belly got in the way. This man's arms were too short to be in the NFL. What did he go on to do? Well, he played 12 years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl.

Wow. Was a player coach as well, like he's Jackie Moon. Ladies and a. Q. Shippley-A-Q. A-Q. When we talk about these games on True TV on Saturday, when we talk about Tulane and we talk about JMU,

and we talk about Ole Miss and Oregon. In Ole Miss, obviously, we have no idea what they're going to look like either. We have no clue what JM or Ole's going to look like. Tulane has a couple games against Big Schools, including Ole Miss, and UTSA, they've lost by 20 plus each time. JMU, we have no idea because they haven't really played anybody

that would be considered a playoff-worthy squad, okay? So we don't know what's going to happen. Maybe JMU shows up. But the biggest difference is in the trenches, right? That's kind of where these types of games kind of get handled, which is the difference between football and basketball whenever you're talking about Cinderella stories in smaller schools, maybe going on a run?

It's trenches, and I also think it's depth. I think that was the biggest thing. Whenever we used to play max schools, which, again, that's still Division I, it's not quite the level of JMU and Tulane obviously but whenever maybe they are but I just think depth I think whenever you lose a guy

and now you're on to your second guy that second guy is also a four star at the big schools now that second guys may be a little bit undersized let's talk about what stars are normally for stars are normally projections of height weight athleticism let alone film I mean film has to happen but

the reason why guys are four or five stars is because they have the dims the dims the dims the dims the dims so whenever you talk about these big schools that are spending all this big money and get all the five stars four stars, they're getting the dims. The opportunity, the potential is obviously all there, but it's the size

that would be the biggest difference. Like, even our West Virginia team, I would say our West Virginia team, whenever I was lucky enough to be there and ride the coattails of a lot of great players. Getting off the bus, our size was clear about, hey, who is a team that is, you know, SEC score or something like that.

Now, granted, we were able to beat them with speed and with tenacity and with fight and everything like that. And maybe there's a chance that JMU has the same type of build, or Tulane has the same type of build now than they did in the regular season whenever they had to face these types of teams. But it feels like in the modern era that we're in, the schools with the money, Oregon's certainly one of them. They're not the only one, but they are certainly one of them. And they should not be judged because they have money. They should be celebrated that they have money. That's a good

thing for them. We all wish we had Uncle Phil Knight as alumni for our schools. But they got dudes, every big position. They could potentially just bully this JMU team right off the field, right? Is that not something that very much worries everybody as we look ahead of these types of games? They could, but this is where I'm going to go on my little high horse right now and say that this is where Iowa, why I think what Kirk Farrens does at Iowa is one of the best coaching jobs every single year

because he takes the guys that might be 6-1, 6-2-6-3 that maybe in Oregon or an Ole Miss or an SEC or another Big Ten school might not look at because they're not 6-5 and 300 pounds. But guess what? At the end of the day, what matters is what? Are you a football player? It's what you put on team. And you can be 6-5. I've played with multiple six-fives look like Tarzan and play like Janes.

Period. Absolutely. A million of those players. And that's what I think four and five stars are. It's projections. It's potential. But when you look at the NFL, those first-round picks also, there's a lot of busts. And potential will get you fired also.

Yeah, potential will get you fired. But these teams have made the playoffs. I think it's been proven that they're a good football team. And the people are good. So maybe it is a little different than at the beginning of the year. But I still, hey, I, because my team that I got very lucky to be a part of, the West Virginia squad, representing the Big East. A lot of guys that got their scholarships pulled

or didn't get pulled anywhere else, kind of a last chance type situation for our team. We beat Georgia. We beat Oklahoma. We beat these teams. So literally, I was there witnessing it, so I will hold out hope. But in the current stage of football

that we're in right now, it does feel like there are some... For sure. There are some differences getting off the bus. Got to play the game. Got to play the game. Got to play every snap. Got to strategize.

A number one team in the country, too. If you look at Indiana's roster and their stars, compared to the rest of the top far. They're not on par with Ohio State. No, this year they are. Last year they were not. Ohio State?

Well, Ohio State's a different animal. League of their own. The defense for Indiana this year size is the biggest difference, is they are bigger and faster. As far as like the guys coming out of high school, like Ohio State is made up of mostly four and five stars. You look at Indiana, there's some three stars, two stars. There's some guys that transfer from other smaller schools. Like those are different. So coaching matters, obviously scheme matters.

But obviously these, you know, three. three touchdowns spread for a reason. Yeah. We've got to play. And a lot of people aren't necessarily thrilled that that is even taking up a spot in the college football playoff. Joel Clyde is a voice that we respect in college ball. We appreciate his contributions to college ball.

But I think no matter what network you're in right now, everybody's kind of saying, Notre Dame's not in, okay? It's not the 12 best teams. So it's hard. It's hard to buy in. But I would like to hold on hope, though, that there is good story

and you win your conference championship and you get in there. The ACC being ass was really the... That's the big reason why it's all. So whenever you want to start pointing blame at whoever you're pointing blame, it's not Tulane.

It's not JMU's fault. JMU didn't get an opportunity to really play anybody either, so they might be way better than anybody could be projecting and they might surprise this duck team, which we would certainly be pumped up about because chaos is a good thing for sports.

Chaos is good, but if they get blown out and Tulane gets blown out, boy, it's going to get real loud this offseason on the setup of it all. Yeah, and I saw Joe Klatte when he was at Colorado. They were 7 and 5, and they played a bowl game against Texas, who was 10 and 2, and they lost 70 to 3. So I think that's why he has that take about the Cinderella's.

But that's the whole thing about the stars. The stars, sure, it does matter with the big schools and the small schools. But if you're one of the best players at the small school, you're only going to be there for two years. I look at Trinidad, Winnidad Chamble. He didn't even go to a Division I school, but then he gets pulled because he's unbelievable, and now he's in the college football playoff.

Like, that's the problem with the small schools. The small schools can't hang on to their coaches and they can't hang on to their players. And it'll be like that forever with the NIL, which is a good thing because the best teams will be better. But it's a bad thing when we don't put the best teams in the college football playoff. It feels like that will change. But that's the whole thing about the whole star shit. Like if the stars were accurate, then every single year, that top 100 list that ESPN does for high schools, that would reflect four years later or three years later in the draft process.

but that's exactly why stars are just projections and that is also why those schools that hold on to those dudes are almost more impressive like Iowa. Yeah, and obviously this conversation has gone into a way of you guys attacking like the stars angle, which I was saying. If this was the beginning of the season, we hadn't seen Oregon already play and the stars were Tarzan Jane thing.

We're talking about the end of the season already and they're into playoffs. So I'm saying four or five stars because... No, but the whole argument was the fact that JMU doesn't have those guys and they're still a good football team. Against who? is the question. That's my question. Is there so a good football team against who?

Got nobody. They do have the shot to shine. They're Jake Paul going into Anthony Joshua. Boom. Good luck. Good luck. And we learned a lot about Jake Paul. He's winning. We had no idea.

He had the holkster rolling through his entire body. Exactly. Did we know that? No. No, I saw that. And I said, okay. Well, why am I even going to watch this? Jake Paul?

It's over. Did a gator hunt. Killed a 12-foot gator. Okay. Out in the, in a swamp. He's turning the gate. he found him, he saw him, okay, he's that a bitch, he's hiring 12-wheel Gator, and then Gug-up close

to him, let's go ahead and shoot that thing right between the eyes his gator thinks he's tough, it's not, I'm tougher than him. Takes the gaita, turns it in the shorts, then he starts decorated, and boom, he's summoning the spirit of holkster going in against Anthony Joshua, obviously, a man who speaks with a British accent. I am a real American,

is what Jake Paul is saying. Is that going to be enough to power him over this big-time upset against Anthony Joshua on Friday night? I'm a little biased, but I'm thinking, yeah. Like, I went from thinking, hey, I hope Jake Paul can survive. I hope he doesn't get killed by this guy who we've seen fight before, who is a mountain of a human being, a big-time heavyweight. And then I saw this stuff, and I said, Jake Paul is going to knock him out in the first round.

Never mind going to a decision, never mind, maybe knocking him down. He's going to kill him. Yeah, there's a chance. So we got Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul Friday night. We got Tulane Ole Miss. We got JMU, Oregon. Joshua won. What's that?

Anthony Joshua. Yeah, I saw Joshua say he's going to take him. take his soul and break his spirit. And it was a pretty enlightened answer. I'm worried about Jake. Yeah, with an English. And I think Jake was worried, too, as he was saying, they were zooming in on Jake's face.

And I think Jake was doing, wow, that's pretty deep. This guy's seen, he's thought about this before. All right. So a lot of David versus Goliath type situation is this weekend. Going into the holiday season, let's go and enjoy it all. We appreciate sports for always delivering for us. But if Tulane and JMU get murdered, it is going to be very, very, very loud. But if they get a win, that's a specialness of sports.

Maybe they go on a magical run, a Cinderella-like run that nobody thinks is possible in a physical sport, as opposed to just a bucket-getting sport. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a senior NFL insider for ESPN, a guy who's on top of every single story, including the one in down in Miami with the turning of a tide. Joining us now, Michigan Man, Adam Schaefter. Shephti, we appreciate you joining us as you were going to speak at your high school as a distinguished honor alumni and let them know that the future is bright if you're willing to have four phones and be on them at all times. Now, Shepty, let's talk about what happened in Miami.

Tua, Tonga, Tung of Aloha, no longer the starter. Quinn Ewers is the new start quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. What does this mean? Is it dawning of a new day, whole new era, Tua chapter closed in Miami. Is that how we should read this? Yeah, I think it's time to start playing the numbers game. And we've seen this play out before in Denver with Russell Wilson, in New York with Aaron Rogers.

When we talk about the teams with the largest cap hits that absorb the contracts of quarterbacks that they once thought were going to be their future, I think you have to turn to Denver and the Jets for instructive ways as to which how they handled it. The Denver Broncos this season, this season, still have $32 million in dead cap money against their cap from moving on from Russell Wilson. It was initially over $50 million last year against their cap. It's $32 million this year against their cap and they still have the best record in the AFC currently. The Jets moved on with a $49 million cap charge of Marant Rogers. Toa Tungovaloa has going to have a $99 million cap charge if they decide to move on from him.

That would be the single largest cap charge in NFL history, and they certainly could spread it out. There are a couple of ways to look at this. They could release him after June 1st. They could see if they wind up trading him in much the way that the Houston Texans once traded Brock Osweiler a lot. with a draft pick to the Cleveland Browns. I remember the day that that story happened, and Bill Pollyan was on the desk there at ESPN, and he's like, that can't be.

Nobody ever trades a player and a pick to take on the contract. But these are different times with some larger contracts, and this certainly would be in that category. But clearly, Miami is going to be moving forward without Tua, one way or another. You don't make the decision to bench him and go with a rookie quarterback in Quinn yours without the idea that you're essentially separating right now.

It's just a question of how the relationship officially dissolves and how they move on from him. But this was the first step in that happening. They have begun the process of moving on for him. Okay, sounds good. Now, tell us where it went wrong, you know, because a couple of years ago, they put up 70 on the Denver Broncos.

They were the talk of the town for offenses. Tua was all in. He gets a new deal. He immediately goes right to the group of people that can't afford regular tickets so they go to training camp, maybe some local sick kids coming to training camp and start screaming in their faces, show me the money. Was this the moment where it all wants south?

Like when? Obviously, you had a couple concussions, which we were all very worried for them. Something went bad, though, because you got worse at football. Like, none of us really understand how did it happen, you think? Where did it go wrong? It's hard to pinpoint. Again, I think the concussions and the injuries began to,

play a part in this. I think he's played through some other injuries here. But I don't know that he's been fully healthy, and I don't know all the injuries that he's been through in the past have taken a toll. Look, when Mike McDaniel got hired, he came in there and resurrected, resurrected the career of Tuatungovalo, so much so that they signed him to this contract that now is going to become a major

sticking point with this organization. Somewhere along the way, it just, he didn't get better the way that some people do. And if anything, he seemed to regress. Yes. And now they're at the point where they've decided to bench him for Quinn Ewers. I can't give you a specific moment when it went south,

but I think part of it is the injuries taking their toll. Part of it is him not improving and regressing, if anything. I don't have that specific answer. I wish I did, Pat. All right. We appreciate the hell. Do you tell those kids at that high school, we said what's up

and that they should be proud of their alumni. You and the director of Monday Night Football, is that right? Yeah, Artie Kempner, who's the director of Monday Night Football. We went to the same high school here on Long Island. I'm literally, I will say this is a bit surreal, driving up the street that I used to go up

every single day as a youth. And I haven't been here in a very long time and about to pull up to my high school, which I haven't been to in a very long time. And we're going to go speak to all the kids here for alumni day. Hey, go see those long. lockers you used to get stuffed in, Schaefter. We appreciate you, man. You're the best. You're done good, dude. You've done good. Ladies and gentlemen, Ayes, Shepter.

Okay, let's go to you, DeButch, obviously South Florida guy, Dolphins fan throughout your childhood and will be for the rest of your life. We talked about Tua and the moving on of him. Six-year quarterback. This isn't like first year, second, year, third year. This is a six-year quarterback. And what we saw in primetime, obviously wasn't fantastic. We showed a couple of the low lights there. Him taking sacks when, like, a third-year quarterback, second-year quarterback you would hope would not take sacks, him knowing what a defense coverage was, what their offense was, and just throwing a pick directly to a guy, he should know that that guy is going to drop into that particular coverage because there's nobody to threaten him

in the flat. We've talked about this all, like, amateur like mistakes out of a quarterback in a six year who's already been paid. Now, concussions aside, because there is a chance that that affects everything, okay? Obviously, that's your brain and big part of being quarterback is thinking and critical analysis and decision making and all that stuff. So we can, I guess, that that potentially had an effect on it, but after they lose primetime game, he was the last one on the field. I mean, he was the last person on the field, like celebrating. I saw him, there's a video of him and Jalen Ramsey talking.

They're like the final two people almost in the entire stadium having a good time catching up old teammates. I like that these teammates like each other, but a quarterback for a team in prime time that just got kicked out of the playoffs, they were potentially going to go to the playoffs. Being the last one off the field, it's like, that's not what you want your quarterback to look like. What he was doing on the field? That's not what you want your NFL quarterback to look like.

So what happened from year three, four, to year six? Like, is that on coaching? Is that on Tua? Is that on the building? Like, how do we kind of judge this fall from grace that Tua Tongvaloa has? Because it felt like he was on an actual fast track to maybe a good legacy whenever McDaniel got there. And then now here we're like, he's gone. It's over in Miami.

It's a wild thing. This post game stuff is kind of the icing on the cake. And like you said, you mentioned players catch up all the time. You saw Russell Douglas and A-Roy catch up real quick after game. I mean, that happens. I don't expect him to go into a deep, dark hole after every loss. But as a quarterback, as the face of the franchise, after a loss like that, that have ended your playoff hopes, you can't be on the field like this chummed up. We've seen former, I want to say Burrow and Allen, maybe a couple of weeks ago, like just in the tunnel, catching up. That's kind of how you do it, kind of away from the cameras.

But on the field, we're not that far removed from him and been a very good player. Like he was the passing rating leader in 2022, 2003 led the league in yards, and then 2020. just last year, he led the league in completion percentage. But when you're watching the games and you're watching them play, it's like he's doing amateur stuff in moments where you can't do, you can't put your team in that position. Mike McDaniel, he did a great job resurrecting his career. And then this team, this was a team that we all wrote off.

We were all talking about Mike McDaniel being fired at midseason, him been on a hot seat. And then you saw this whole team collectively, even after trading some of their best pieces, fight, and then for him to go down like this is ugly, tough. But, too, Tua's still got 54 guaranteed next year. So they got to figure that part out. Well, that's what I'm saying.

It looks like he doesn't really, like the after the game thing, it was like, does this guy even care? Yeah. This guy even care. And then obviously we've talked about. You never want that question for your quarterback. For your franchise quarterback who's getting paid. Like, does this guy even care in the team? Like when he walks in a locker room, there has to be some people in that locker in the care.

Somebody cares about the Miami Dolphins in that locker. I would say a lot of people, based on how they've played this last, you know, month or so. you know, their winning streak, and even the games before that when they were competing, I would say a lot of those people carried the coaches and the players alike. So it's tough to keep, well, it's not tough. You're a professional, so you've got to show up and play, you know, 17 games. But they competed their ass off weekend and week out. And it wasn't just the play.

Like, we remember throughout the weeks, like it seemed like every post game when he was at the podium, he was saying some dumb shit or some wild shit or throwing somebody in the bus. So it's just been a wild ride. Well, that's the problem. Like, he was throwing people under the bus. And they lost some players for sure. They traded Jalen Phillips, who's a pro bowler, Christian Wilkins. They didn't re-sign, which looking back, who knows.

But they're Taran Armstead starting left tackle. They paid 100 plus million. Jalen Ramsey gets traded. Johnny Smith gets traded. There were multiple different things. But when McDaniel flew over, I still remember McDaniel on the private plane, FaceTime and Tua is saying, hey, we're going to build this thing around you. Like, this is your team.

He watched the 500 hours of Tua throwing the ball. He was handed the keys. Now, the whole entire money thing, that's another, you know, aspect of this. Ownerships on board. They're also done with all his shit because they're giving them all that money. But it's year six. Look at the other quarterbacks in his draft class and what they're doing between Burrow, who, you know, Boohoo Burrow, what are you going to do? Hopefully he figures that out. But Herbert in the Chargers, they figured it out once they got the right coach in there. And then Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz has been to two Super Bowls

and he's won a Super Bowl. And you look at how Jalen Hertz talks on the podium and acts after losses. You look at how Burrow handles it. You look at Justin Herbert, who handles it maybe too much aggressively. Maybe he needs to calm down, take a page out of Tua's book, instead, and Tua take a page out of his book. But it is a bummer, but it's done in Miami. Like, maybe he gets a chance. Do you guys think a team is risking it on him? Yeah, that's kind of the interesting point. AQ Shipley, we know in this league, you know, there's an opportunity for anybody, basically, and a lot of buildings think it happened like that there. It won't happen like that here. We've seen Tua have success. I referenced it earlier. They hung 70 on Denver.

They were the talk of the NFL, changing what offenses are. That's why they go and pay Tyree Kill because of how impressive they wanted that offense to be, how incredible they wanted that offense to be. It was almost the greatest show on turf again. Like that is what the Miami Dolphins were just a few years ago. Did defenses catch up and they weren't able to adjust? Is it on scheme? Is it on strategy?

And do you think another team will take a shot on Tua? Tua would be agreeing that he's a backup. This would be like a Russell Wilson type situation where he gets a million dollars. Or do you think there's a team that will go in on Tua being their starter somewhere, AQ? Somebody will definitely take a chance on him. I think I'll start with that. And I think when you look at what he's done, He's obviously taking that team to the postseason twice.

He's been very good completion percentage, quarterback rating, all that stuff. But I always lean back on the trenches. And Connor kind of alluded to it already with Taryn Armstead, but they also lost Robert Hunt. Robert Hunt was one of the best guards in football. And there's a reason he got paid when he went to Carolina, got paid a boatload of money. And when you lose him and you lose Taryn Armstead, and all of a sudden, you don't have the same protection up front. You can't run the ball quite like you used to. You can't have the protection and get him down the field because that entire offense is timing throws.

I think that that's kind of where it went wrong, but he will definitely get another chance. He's a first round pick, a top five pick. They always get a million chances. Well, he want one. I mean, that's kind of, honestly, this looks like a dude, that after the game thing, and then like some of those decisions

and then how the season's gone, and like, I guess I shouldn't have said that. I apologize, I didn't mean to put anybody in a position. It's like, does this guy have a bald ball still? And you can see why he maybe wouldn't. You listed all the players that he got traded away. All their good players kind of left the team before this season started.

Good players. I'm sorry, they got a lot of good players. All their star players were either traded out of town or moved along from this Miami-Dolphins. They'd bring Minka Fitzpatrick back. But it was like, this team's a seller before the season even starts. Like, what is their expectation?

And then they get through it. And then they're lurking and they're lurking and they're lurking. And it's like, it wasn't because of Tua while they were lurking. The offense had changed completely into a run-first type thing. And then after the loss

and being kicked out of the playoffs with how he hands are after, I just, does this got a low boast? And would that be the first question, I guess any building would be asking him? And if he was offered a backup rule somewhere, is that something the two would want to be? Or he's getting $54 million. Hey, yeah, I'll do whatever. I'll basically do whatever.

It's a good situation to, you know, reflect and figure it out. You're still getting 54 coming your way. I think up into this point, I don't think anybody would argue that he loves football. We saw him, you know, looking like he was, you know, damn near dead on the football bill. Come back. Come back. A lot of people were talking saying, hey, he shouldn't come back. Go enjoy your family. When you are benched or you suffer a major injury and you have your, you know, he's been in face of a franchise. When you have that taken away from you, I'm sure he'll love and appreciate it even more.

But like AQ said, I'm on the same page. He'll definitely get an opportunity. Everything that I've seen, I think he still loves the game of football. And if we look around the league every year we see, we always talk about the quarterback development issue in the NFL or how they just aren't enough good quarter. quarterbacks in the NFL. So there will be another team that will take a shot. His skill set is limited when you're talking about quarterbacks that are making the money that he's making. I don't think he'll see another contract like this. I hope I'm wrong. But, you know, he doesn't have the arm strength. He doesn't have the size, the mobility and those things that we talk about top tier elite quarterback. I think he will have the opportunity. Him with Kevin O'Connell.

For a $1 million contract, just like Russell Wilson, to a tongue of a low. Now, nine's coming into his own. figuring out. We know a nine's coming into his own. But to a tongue of a lower in an offensive system where he doesn't, hey, he just dropped back and this is where you got to put the ball. That was very much what he was with McDaniel. So maybe the offense too, McDaniel, the way he was drawing it up, wasn't the same going forward, where guys weren't why his wide-ass opener as much timing routes because defense

caught up to the offenses. Joining us now is he mayna might be able to tell us a little bit more, actually. Stu played eight years in the NFL, okay? Seven-time all pro, seven-time pro bowler. That good. Hall of Fame, Dom, already. going to go into the Hall of Fame eight years he played. He's a type of human

who walks around, he's smart human in any room in our real world, okay? He would be one of the representatives that the NFL would put up for if there was a smart human contest just and we had to be represented. This dude would be one of the first ones that we send out there.

Then he puts on his pads, flip the switch, complete lunatic, psycho, maniac, one of the greatest of all time. And oh yeah, the smarts that he has, he was able to do it and ball to knew what everybody was going to do all the time, which leads to an alt cast called Monday Night Football Playbook with next gen stats, December 22nd, an NFL data cast aimed at avid fans, which will complement Monday Night Football and ESPN NFL postseason slate.

So much like the, we got to see like kind of a trailer or teaser or what it would be. So just like on Thursday night, how they have the analytics cast where they have circles and percentages and all that stuff, ESPN is going to provide that. shout out to adrenaline, which Sean Lee, former Dallas Cowboys linebacker and Penn State linebacker, also Western Pennsylvania soccer star growing up from Upper St. Clair in Pittsburgh. He's one of the owners of a company called adrenaline, which has an AI model that backs with football players, with analytics, with stats and everything, to be a good predictionary type situation. So they're going to team up Sean Lee, Lou Keekeley, analytics in Monday Night Football.

Oh, yeah, and Dan Orlovsky's going to sign me up. I think it's going to be good, ladies and gentlemen, Luke Kieckley. Yeah. I think it's going to be good, Luke. This seems in theory, and I know you big brain people operate in theory a lot, but in theory, this seems to be an incredible thing. I saw you got to do a little bit of a test run. I know you call games for Carolina on a rotational basis.

How excited are you for this? And what do you think people are going to learn from watching alongside you, Dano, and Field Yates, Luke? Yeah, I think it's a really cool opportunity. I think it shows you a lot about, you know, what guys are thinking when D.K. Metcalf lines up at number three, the three position wide receiver he's lined up on a linebacker. His percentage of catch is going to go way up because the matchup on the linebacker is better. And then we can just give reasons why. Why does

D.K. Metcalf line up there. Why does Jonu Smith line up out wide at the number one position rather than in a traditional tight-end location? We're going to try to explain a lot of the why the next couple weeks will be five, five games that will do, but the reason is why? Why do they line up in this formation? Why do they line up in this defensive set? Why this personnel group? I think a lot is made out of the 13 personnel stuff this year. And a lot of guys have talked about why they line up in base versus nickel. I think it's going to be a really unique opportunity for us to explain why coaches do certain things and why certain players line up in particular positions. I'm going to watch it, steal your shit, act like it's my own.

I appreciate you. That should be an absolute blast. I think that is what the goal would be for every football fan and football consumer to get smarter about the game that we all love. And hearing from you will certainly be a beautiful piece of it. Let's talk about the game that you did there with the Dolphins and Tua. We just asked

and obviously your opinion is certainly warranted in this particular conversation. Tua put up 70 points against the Denver Broncos with that McDaniel offense whenever he goes down there. They were using late motions, late shifts. They were doing a lot of that stuff kind of innovated, change the game. Do you

think defensive coordinators caught up to them? Do you think Tua just wasn't as sharp as he used to be? Why do you think we saw a regression in performance, clearly, by McDaniel and Tua down there in Miami? And him getting benched, obviously, is the end of an era of Tua in Miami. What do you think the future potentially looks like for him, Luke? So I think you start with how and why we got to this point in Miami, and then what do you think the future looks like for Tua, Luke? I think it was certainly the production wasn't there. Obviously, the Tyreek injury hurt them. Robert Hunt coming to Carolina.

I know you guys already referenced that same thing with Armstead. The pieces that they've had in the past aren't there how they used to be. Now they kind of rely on Jalen Waddle. A-Chane's obviously a really good running back. But I think a little bit is people have caught up to the motions a little bit, all the pre-snap shifts, all the pre-snap motions. That was all very new in the way they did it. But as people see more of it in the communication,

on the defensive side of the ball catches up it becomes a little bit easier but you know i think you guys kind of nailed it a little bit you watched two after the game it's like man like how much how serious is he's on there you know talking with jalen ramsie it's like man just just get in the locker room be with the guy if you need to talk to jalen you can do it behind the scenes but like you said it's it's the end of an error they had a great they had a great run there but like like you said all first round picks are going to get another opportunity he he's produced at a high level in the past and there's nothing to say that he can't do it again. Yeah, it's what was it about him that made him a great player? Accuracy, his anticipation whenever they were humming,

what do you think it was? And for you as a guy that was on defense side, what are the most important things a quarterback to have that's most lethal against the defense? Well, I think he knew where the ball needed to go very quickly and his accuracy was there. And I think as people kind of cut up to it and they lost some of the vertical presence from Tyreek, you know, when you have those two guys that can burn Tyreek and Jalen Waddle, it puts a lot of stress on defense, but now when you only have one vertical threat to worry about the game changes a little bit. But I think what allowed him be successful is he understood that offense, he knew where the ball needed to go. He played with great accuracy, anticipation, and just hasn't

quite been the same this year. Okay, let's move away from just Tua in Miami, even though that's huge news. I mean, he was the number five overall pick to the Miami Dolphins. Obviously coming out of Alabama, a lot of success. Mike McDaniel got hired there to make to a great just a couple years ago. They're going to take on the biggest dead cap in the history of the NFL if they decide to cut to a, which we all assume will happen. Good luck to him in the future. We can't wait to see what's next for all parties there.

Speaking of the future, Carolina Panthers aren't ass. Hey, that's good news, right? Don't we think that's good news that they're not ass? Like, why do you think that is the case? It feels like the vibes around the whole team vastly different than it was just two years ago. Is it as easy as bringing in Morgan and Canalis? Is it what do you think you felt down there? with this Panthers team?

Well, I think they've been very particular in how they've built the team, right? So Bryce's rookie, or he got sacked like 53 times. So, all right, what do we get to do? We got to address the offensive line. We bring in Damien Lewis and Robert Hunt and Free Agency. We have Austin Corbett, and then we have two guys we drafted at both tackles. So in one offseason, they fixed the offensive line. Last year, we played really well up front.

We've had some injuries. and then last year the issue was we're not very good on defense we struggle up front we don't have a ton of depth so what do they do you know Derek brown comes back obviously from injury they bring in tershon wharton they bring in bobby brown they draft some guys in the printer nick scorton and princely uman me ellen who's a old miss guy so we we have a combination of free agency and then draft draft picks and i think the one guy that's helped us a tonne has been trevon merrig we brought him over from the raiders he's he's able to do a little bit of everything. He can line up as a safety. He can line up at the nickel position. He can line up

at Will linebacker. He gives us a ton of versatility on the defensive side of the ball. So I think Dan and Dave have done a really good job with saying, hey, we need to control up front. So first offseason, we go draft offensive line, bring offensive alignment in a free agency year two. We take care of the defense. And then year three, I think, is where they are really expecting to kind of take off. Do you know the rest of the 53-man roster? And I'd like to hear everything about him please could you uh how's it hey we've got good young players everywhere um and a lot of it is just you got to grow with these young guys right you know on the offense of side of the ball at the skill position we've got j t sanders second year tight end jalen cocker's our slot guy we brought in he's

he's an undrafted free agent but great size and catch radius year two you know legett year two our first round pick team at great player year one so it's a lot of that at that skill position It's just young guys, and you've got to play with young guys when you have them, and sometimes they're great. Sometimes you have those young mistakes, but as overall our young guys at skill position are great dudes, they play really hard, and they're going to continue to learn. And they cook your ass. It'd be a milk check every single time with this guy right here. That's what they're looking for out there.

Luke, Canales seems to have a good brain down there for the offensive system with Bryce Young. Go ahead, Dee Butt. Yeah, Luke, it's a lot of great brains right now in offense around the league. McVeigh, Ben Johnson, Shanahan. In your opinion, what's like the toughest offense to face right now? What makes like a great play call, in your opinion? I think the ability to set plays up, right? So they're going to show you a look.

They're going to have two or three run plays off that look, and they're going to have two or three pass plays off that look. And I think, you know, there's the Shanahan McVeigh, that pre-snap motion, that pre-snap shift, I think is really good. And just a good example of that is, you know, McVeigh will line up or Shanahan will line up, Kittle on one side of the offensive line and then the lineup, huge check on the other

side of the offense line. And those guys are kind of interchangeable. So there's really no run tell, there's no pass tell. They can check it at the line of scrimmage. And then they start shifting and motioning and it goes from 2 by 2 to 3 by 1 pre-snap. And then on the snap, there's a guy coming back across the formation.

So they're going to give you so many looks pre-snap. They're going to shift guys. They're going to move guys as the ball gets snapped. And all that does to the defense is it gets you move inside. pre-snap, it gets your communication off, maybe it messes with safety rotation, and then the ball gets snapped, your feet aren't set, you're not where you need to be, your eyes are in the wrong spot, so then that half-second that it takes you to get to where

you need to be, they've got angles on you in the run game, kittles run past you. They just do a great job of window dressing and showing you stuff, and then boom, snap the ball, and it's on you right now. Okay, so let's continue this conversation about what you just basically alluded to there. you go from two by two to three by one so you close close close hop up up boom boom boom then quarterbacks also apple apple to the second play into the third different uh formation that they were in but you were a little bit different on defensive side go ahead a cue yeah look i remember game planning for you when you were in carolina and it was always when you guys would go double a gap

we would always have to like dummy point just to try and get you off because you were so good at switching the blitzes understanding the protection and getting the right check up how much power and how much freedom did you have when you were doing that? Or was that more part of the call and part of the game plan? A lot of it was just part of what we were trying to do. And I think Sean McDermott was our coordinator for a long time in Carolina. He did a really good job of saying, hey, what do you guys like doing? What do you feel comfortable? And then he'd go into the game and say, hey, what do you guys seeing and hearing on the field? And then we were able to kind of switch stuff up during the game based on what we saw. Thomas Davis was really good at it too. So we had our set rules and then

inside of those rules, we had the ability to try to figure out, hey, if we're double mugged and the center comes to me, Thomas, you take over the blitz, right? Then it's, you know, it could be a one-on-one on the running back. Boom. If they turn the Thomas, then Luke, you go blitz and have a one-on-one at the running back. So we were just always trying to find ways within the defense, within the system, to find the best opportunity to create an advantage for us. Um, was there anybody that you knew inside and out and you just couldn't give away that you knew them inside out? Like, you almost know it too good. We don't want them to know that we know it too good. So is there a couple plays where maybe you like, oh, you got me on that one? Like you kind of do there in early in the game.

Like, how did you play once you got a really good beat on somebody, which in our eyes, in the way you are talked about by literally everybody is you got a good beat on everybody? But is there anybody that you had like locked in very early that you didn't want to? give away, if that makes sense or not, almost play poker with? Yeah, the most difficult group was always the Saints with Breeze and Sean Payton because my whole time in Carolina, all eight years, it was Drew Breeze and Sean Payton. So they knew us, we knew them. Our system on defense, we had three coordinators, McDermott left, and then Steve Wilkes went to Arizona, and then we had Eric Washington my last year. Our system was very similar year in and year out. Their system was very similar year in and year out. So it was always within that game, you were always

thinking, why are they showing me this look right now? What is this look meant to show me that, you know, and then they're going to come back to it in the second half and run something off of it. So when we'd come to the sideline, we'd be like, all right, this is the formation, this is the look. This is the play that they ran. And then you kind of had a look at it from their perspective and offensive perspective and say, hey, what else can they do from this set that would give us issues? So that was kind of always the game within the game of, all right, this is what it looked like in the first quarter. This is what it's going to look like in the second quarter. From their perspective, where else can they attack us? And that's kind of what we looked

at. How about Peyton Manning told Ray Lewis that they had 12? It's like one of the, it's a legendary clip where he's like, you got 12, Ray, you got 12, Ray, you got 12, and you see Ray like, it's caused the timeout, and they actually do have 12 or whatever. You know, and Peyton Ray obviously played against each other a lot. They have a lot of respect for each other. And I don't know why Peyton told him in that point other than just maybe two shit talk ray that he alpha move i i am in there but for you whenever it came to understanding what the other team was going to do and when did it was that film study you talked about it being live in there and is there anybody that you felt bad for was there anybody that after the game you're

like hey you guys literally the most predictable team in the history of football like that you need to maybe work on some stuff in that entire thing did anybody ever ask you about that like hey what are our giveaways to you would you ever give that up like, can you go behind the scenes a little bit as being known as the Nostradamus of football and how offensive teams would treat a relationship with you? Yeah, I think I always felt like in Carolina, our coaches did a great job of preparation. Hey, these are top run formations. These are top sets.

This is where they're trying to get to. And then we would always talk about within our defense, what stresses us. Where are the natural stressors that we have in our defense and played a lot of, you know, cover three single high defense we brought very some slot pressures where are the issues in that defense so you'd always have that in the back of your mind and then the the film study to me was a huge advantage you guys know how it is you always look to find an advantage before the game starts and for me the film study was something that I really enjoyed and if you could steal three or four plays during a game just based on what you've watched I think it's super helpful

and then also the more you watch in the game, you know, in the NFL, the more you get a feel for how offenses are trying to attack teams. And that kind of carries over from, say, we're playing Shanahan one week and then we go play, you know, McVeigh, and they're the same kind of a defense. Where did Shanahan give us issues? Because, you know, McVeigh went and watched that tape, and he's going to have something that's similar to that. So I think we did a great job. In the meeting rooms with the coaches, we took practice very serious. Seriously, we wanted to get things right. We had a bunch of older guys on our team that loved practice and loved doing things right.

And then we transition it to the film room after practice. And you kind of put all three of those together. And you roll it out for the game and you feel pretty good about it. December 22nd Monday Night Football Playbook with next gen stats. Lou Keekely will be live in real time telling you exactly what every other team is going to do alongside an AI model. That was one of the founders is Sean Lee, former. NFL linebacker, and he's going to make a bazillion dollars off of this. I mean, if he's

in the middle of an AI company that is now sponsoring a Monday night football assignment. Congrats, Sean. I guess Sean, congratulations to you as well. You're calling out plays, Luke? Yeah, what's the Romo thing? Yeah, how is that going to go? That's what's going to be excited. I think a lot of it will be

you still got it, Luke? Do you still got it or no? I guess we got to tune in next week and see what's going on. It'll be, it'll be fun I think I'm looking forward to most is I'll talk defensive perspective and then Orlovsky will have his side and we'll kind of I'm sure there's going to be some back and forth on hey this is what Dan sees this is what I see hey it's third and seven you know in the minus side of the field what's the defensive perspective here you know everyone talks about Pat you know about this on the plus side of the field are we trying to bump a team at a fuel goal range what's the approach you know is third and seven blitz package different than a third and three Blitz package. I think that's all stuff that we're going to try to figure out and talk about during the game. Yeah, I can't wait to hear it. And Dan

Rolowski needs to tighten up here over the next couple. Yeah. What's today's date? December 17th. This is on 20th. This is Monday night. Day is rude. He needs to be. I mean, there's a chance you get exposed out there, Dan Rolovsky. You've got Lou Keeckley on the other side. I mean, there is a chance. He's got an AI model working against him

potentially and a human AI in Luke Kikley. Dan Alovsky's the only non-AI out there. Fieldyates is fantasy football AI, right? Luke Kinkley is defensive football AI, right? I think if we were to get and then actual AI model founded by Sean Lee. Okay, so...

We got Sully and Wazzowski O'Rlowski coming in. Exactly. We was just doing Fun Day, Monsters Inc. last week. Dan! Frange, baby. Dan, tighten it up, Dan. Good luck, Dan. Tighten it up, Dan. We need you out there. Dan might also need to be speaking to the humans that are watching that, that aren't specifically dialed in to every single

nose about number three in the tray over there. But I am excited to kind of learn a lot more about ball especially through your eyes we're all such massive fans of yours and obviously your defense was a massive piece of making it to the super bowl that year feels like the cyclality word you would tell me i don't know boston college guy this the cyclality in the cyclicalness in the cyclical nature of football yeah you got it just use that in the fucking show uh it feels like we have come back to a very physical style and maybe defense go ahead tie yeah luke as we've been looking at the playoff picture over the last several

weeks it's become very apparent that there's maybe like four teams on both the nfc and aFC who could win the super pause hold on one second put it up please put it up you can use it buddy you can use it thank you it's a word go ahead tie and like uh all eight of those teams they all have unbelievable defenses and we had bruce arians on yesterday and asked him that question and he basically said, like, that's important. But if you don't have a quarterback who can score 30 points a game in the playoffs, it doesn't mean shit. You're not going to win a Super Bowl.

But would you be surprised if we're going back to that maybe, you know, like a 2000 Ravens where if you have a truly elite defense and it's the best part of your team, then you don't necessarily need like a Josh Allen or one of those top five QBs in order to win a Super Bowl. Well, I think if you talk to anybody in the AFC, the last team that they want to play right now is the Houston Texans. I mean, that defense has played extremely well. D'Amico Rine, or D'Amico has those guys rolling. And I think they're going to keep getting better on offense.

C.J. Stroud probably hasn't had the year that he's wanted, but they're big. They can run. Nico Collins is a really good football player. So I think the defenses certainly play a role in this, but I think, you know, I don't disagree. I think having guys like Josh Allen always gives you an opportunity to win games. But on that AFC, you got the Broncos and you got the Texans, those defenses are really daggone good. Yeah, here's what the current playoff picture looks like. And to your point

about the Houston Texans, they could be the 7C, they could end up a AFC South champion. I mean, there's a chance they have to take on anybody, but if it's Patriots Texans, obviously Drake May and the Patriots have been successful. Trayvion Henderson has done his thing. But the Houston Texans make everybody's offense look like

ass. They literally, they bring the boo birds out every single time they are playing in somebody else's stadium because of how great they are. So if you have an elite quarterback, I guess that's the way you can really beat them, like Josh Allen just did, coming back from being down 21. So I guess Bruce Ariens' point is valid, but it used to be like you just need a defense that's like able to get a stop whenever you need it.

Now it feels like some of these defenses are full game, pounding, lower score-type games. Is that what the playoffs look like? I don't know. I'll be excited to see what the fan reaction will be if it is a defensive dominant run to the Super Bowl for any of these squads. We can't wait to watch it. Good representatives in the AFC and the NFC. Hey, we are in a good place when it comes the ball.

Up and to the right, everything. And that starts tomorrow night. Thursday night football, Rams and Seahawks. And then Monday night, Colts versus Niners. And that'll have a playbook with next-gen stats available alongside of it with Luke Keekely's big-ass brain breaking it all down. Philip Rivers? Yeah.

Luke, you think Phil Rivers is going to be predictable, Luke? Yeah, fucking right. Okay, good luck. You might get it all wrong out there, brother. Okay? You might have no shot. We'll have it on in the suite. We will have it audio all the way up,

so we sound smart whenever we're watching. And I'll be excited for you to continue to add to this world of analytics while also using ball. Now, on that point, last question. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Luke, from Massachusetts last time I went to a BC football game. You were playing on the field. Thank you for your service.

And thank you for kind of showing me. I will never be successful while playing college football because of how good you were. But looking at the analytics and the stats, you know, this is what your Monday night football is centered around. How do you feel about NFL coaches kind of centering their decision making around statistics? It feels like it's going to be part of football no matter what analytics. You know, they do help, but sometimes they hurt you more than you help you.

How do you feel about that entire thing, really, with coaches using it to decide whether to go for fourth down, to punt the ball, those types of things? Well, I think the advantage is when you trust the numbers. If you're going to be an analytics guy, the best way to be is to say, hey, every time it says go, we go. Every time it says don't go, we don't go. I think when you get in trouble is when you're like, you get emotion gets involved into the decision. And you say, hey, it's a strong, strong go for it. Hey, we're not feeling it.

The momentum's not there. Our guys aren't rolling in the right direction. I think in order to be successful over time using the analytics, and that's ultimately the goal of why you use analytics. It's not for the isolated time. It's for, hey, over the course of the season, if we listen to what the numbers are going to say, we're going to have an advantage over teams that don't. That's the best way to do it.

And the worst way to do it is to kind of pick and choose and get emotional. And when you get emotional, things don't work out and the models don't work the way they're supposed to. Oh, no. I think the numbers, I think they got Luke. That doesn't sound like you. No, he's got Olson.

No, he's all right. No, he's all right. It's the play. It's him and it's him. Greg versus JJ versus football. You know, I mean, we don't love it. You know, so he's doing an analytics now show. Sounds like black guy hates ball.

Hey, don't forget ball, Luke. Please don't forget that these are humans. I know you're not one. It's still ball. You asked me the question about analytics and you just got to, you got to trust it. If you're an analytics guy, you got to trust it and take the emotion out of it. Didn't say when I coach seventh and eighth grade football, that's how we do.

We lean a little bit more into emotion, but for the, there we go. I'm coming back full circle. guy yeah push comes to show up we know what you'll do yeah whatever you need to win uh with your big brain i need you to help me here and it doesn't look like you eat any of these last night the only sweets are available in my house was this box of chocolates i want oh for three i want oh for three i want oh for three and i a lot of people tell me you need to look at the legend to know what they are there was no legend on this box okay this was an actual box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get i want oh for three the first three all three ass ones you know that

raspberry one that's in there raspberry new some other ass one some other ass one which one would you go with next here? Luke, just using your brain and ability to predict things if you had to look at this particular box of chocolates? Reading the legends, like reading instructions. You just, you don't do it. You just go in there and dig in and find the one that looks the best. I mean, the first one that grabs my eye is that one with the white icing on top of it. The drizzle or the sprinkle? The drizzle one. That one looks good to me. It looks like I would have a little crunch. Might have like a caramel, caramel filling on the inside. That one looks pretty Not caramel, Luke.

That's not good. Yeah, I might be cooking for green, Luke. Look, you have watched film. You don't eat sweets, dude. We'll see you on Monday night. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you for your service to ball. You're the man.

Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Luke Kikley. Yeah, Lou. That drizzle one has the soft inside cream that's good. That's probably the fourth worst one in that thing. Yeah, he's never eaten out of one of those boxes before because in the, I don't know, 100 years they've been doing that. That one with the white drizzle on top has never had caramel inside of it once.

Yeah, and I didn't select it because. I knew there was probably some ass in there. But I'm going to say they're disguising these ones pretty good now. I thought I had the peanut one. Peanut cluster? Multiple times. And it was something vastly different. I'm like, I want a couple of those.

Nightmare. So then I go to the next one. I'm like, let me go ahead and get this one. Raspberry inside. That did not, you used to look different. Those ones are deceiving. If you don't have the legend, those will, because those sometimes do look like they have caramel in the center.

Oh, for three. That's tough. That's tough. Yeah. Put the top back up. done with this thing yeah that's why i hate the assortment of things i hate random shit i like to know exactly what i'm getting i want 12 of the same thing i want reises all of them that's what i want but i want you know the reality of situation was i had that thing serious staring at me and i

opened it and boy i did one of these blew the new healer dog running into my leg i'm trying and figure this thing out please sit i'll give you one can't this thing probably could just eat that whole thing of chocolate and survive this thing's a house horse it's a out of rage. But he was laughing at me too as I was in the middle of it. I'm like, you need to get off my ass. Dogs still can't eat chocolate? No. We got to. No, never. We got evolve, man. It's like the Achilles.

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Leading a Rams team that could win another Super Bowl? Leading a Rams team that was supposed to be in a middle of a turnover heading up to Seattle to take on a brand new Seahawks culture. Brought to it by McDonald, or McDonald, I'm sorry, not McDaniel. McDaniel just fired his quarterback. McDonald's. up there in Seattle with Sam Darnold leading the way on the offensive side with a

run game and a defense that is obviously incredible. Seattle and the 12s will be on display. 5.15 local time. We've got to remember that. Okay. So every time we have primetime game, we're obviously excited. People are out of work, have been out of work. Have a chance to be even go home, get changed,

head to stadium. Thursday, 515 local time. Okay? So that's an interesting kind of dynamic for this. They'll figure it out. They're a great fan base. But I'm excited to see Seattle on full display, especially in a divisional rivalry game for the number one and winning of the division, basically. So tomorrow should be special. That's what week 16 will kick off within the NFL. And then in college football, we got to play us, baby. Boom. We got the

playoffs this week. Friday, it's Oklahoma. We got a college game day, I believe, two hours, six to eight live from Oklahoma is Alabama will travel to take on the Sooners. Cannot wait for this particular matchup. Think it's going to be a beautiful one. Bam, a favorite by one and a half on the road. And then we'll travel down to college station. College game day will be nine to noon. Noon kickoff as A&M hosts the Miami Hurricanes. And then at 3.30 on True TV, Tulane will take on Ole Miss and JMU will finish out the day taking on Oregon in Otson on True TV as 21 point underdogs. Live from Hammer, Don, Don, Don. AP tone, Bama favored in Oklahoma. A&M favored by three. Any surprises on those numbers? And what are you looking forward to?

to most this first weekend of the college football playoff? No, I don't think there's any surprises in those first two games as far as the number or any game as far as the number is concerned. Bama outgained Oklahoma in that first game. Now it was at Alabama by 200 yards. They kind of dominated the game

but there was a pick six for Oklahoma's defense and they forced two fumbles. That was kind of the story of the game and that one the Oklahoma defense got the better of it as far as the turnovers were concerned. So like yes, Alabama should be favored. But also Alabama has kind of played like shit since then. They had a close one against Auburn.

They obviously got blown out in the SEC championship against Georgia. And Oklahoma's had some time to potentially get their offense fixed and get back to kind of what they were at the beginning of the season. So that was kind of a coin flip and the line shows that. And then when you go to A&M and Miami, when you go to minus three, like when you're looking at sports books and numbers, the home field advantage is normally around two and a half to three points. So they're, if you, if you want to look at it like that, they kind of have these two teams as even, which is kind of what everyone else thinks as well.

They are very evenly matched. They both have incredible D-lines. They both have incredible offensive lines, and they have playmakers on the outside, on both sides of the ball. So that one kind of has those two teams rated evenly, which I don't disagree with at all. And then obviously you have the two big spreads between the more dominant teams versus the group of five teams.

Tulane plus 17 and a half we like? New. Really? They lost the UTSA. So, like, here's the thing with JMU and Tulane, okay? Meet, me. Listen, and the roadrunners are very, very good at home.

I think we're holding too much. I think we're doing Tulane a disservice. Or the roadrunners are a disservice with that. Okay. But I don't see the roadrunners in the first weekend of college football playoff, but hey, maybe they should be. Maybe they should be. They got a great.

Especially with how bad they beat the hell out of the number 11 team in the country in the college football playoffs. But JMU, like, statistically is top 10 and basically every single stat on defense. Their defense has been dominant. Their offense is number five in the country and rushing like 245, 250 yards a game. But their strength of schedule is 121st.

So they haven't really done it against them. But at least the teams they play, they dominate. Tulane, still not a great schedule and their stats aren't great either. And their coach, what, is already in Florida. Yeah, at halftime he's leaving. No, half time. No, half time.

No, summer all's doing a great job. He's sleeping two hours. He's doing his job at both plays. He donated $100,000 back to Tulane. Very nice of him. Him putting a Florida hat on at halftime to call some recruits and then putting the Tulane visor back on for the second half. I mean, that's just multitasking to a T.

And I appreciate the fact that he's still doing it with Tulane and they're still trying to go for it. But that dude definitely only cares about what Florida's got going on. Yeah, he knows they can't win at all. James Hughes is the same. James Hughes head coach is going to UCLA. He was actually just on Jim Rome. I think it was either yesterday or two days ago.

I don't know if there was one question about JMU. They're playing in a playoff game on Friday. He was just getting hammered about UCLA. Saturday. I'm playing. Excuse me. Who cares? He was further away.

What's that? Better enjoy it because it's a long road getting there from UCLA. Big back to your shot to shine. Yeah, Rose Bowl is obviously awesome. But the Big Ten is going to be a tough road to get to the college football playoffs. So maybe he should enjoy every moment there with JMU. And also, maybe this isn't it for JMU. boys look big looked athletic

I had a great new head coach is he coaching this weekend no Billy Naper obviously he's going to be on the sidelines though yeah he's going there for a year and then he's going somewhere else no we don't know if that's true with Billy Napier but maybe there's a chance that happens

that's ladies and gentlemen that's AP Town thank you guys joining us now as a man who's won a college football national championship a guy who will be on the sideline down there at college station calling for the field pass ESPN people thought that was a giveaway yeah

A lot of people at Texas A&M sending me messages and tweets and stuff like that saying, hey, for your field pass, me and my husband have been diehard Texas A&M, Aggie fans. We would love to stand on a sideline with you as if it was like a giveaway. And I want to tell them, you can be on silent with us just through ESPN 2. We will be on in the simulcast.

But the field pass, for some reason, I think God, I don't know if it got on a message board or something, but there was an abundance of people that were like, hey how do I win the field pass me and my friend have obviously been diehard Aggies used to be a yell leader 20 years ago looking to get back like all those types of things

so we will not be having anybody else with us as credentials are actually very difficult to get you have to have very important jobs to get down there and obviously whenever you're staying on a sideline trying not to ruin a game and be in dipshits who are incredibly lucky that is deemed acceptable

I guess and we are confused by it as well but we will be down there and we are very thankful for it. Not only us down there would also be, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, AJ Hawke. Hawker, just a few days from college football playoff field pass, brother. This is a great time of year. How are you feeling just a few days out? I'm feeling

great. I think it's going to be awesome. I think the whole college football playoffs would be great, but this game is kind of a marquee matchup, I think, in this first round. Looking forward. Hopefully there is a, you know, a random couple there gets to stand there and stare at us to do the simulcast. Yeah, and maybe there will be, and there will be somebody that will be holding a monitor in that person.

and we'll just be out to lunch just no idea what's going on I've never seen football before has no idea what we're doing there but certainly getting a paycheck for them being there and we're appreciative of them getting a job but there will be a little self-awareness class that'll be happening throughout the

entire first quarter. We assume Spanx will be doing his thing. Please. Dropping in from the uprights onto our head telling us we need to back up because he's got a shot that needs to be on TV for 14 seconds. So you know that'll all happen. This has kind of become a part of the field pass process. But We're incredibly lucky to do it.

We're very thankful for the folks from Texas A&M for being as hospitable as they have been. And also, Mario Cristobald, Miami, we're getting a production meeting. We're getting a chance to talk to the coaches before calling the game. Let's go. That has never happened before. AJ, this is a big deal, AJ. Oh, yeah. This is a very big deal.

If you remember, me and you had a production meeting years ago with Matt Rule when he was at Baylor. That was a fun experience. Yeah, I'm excited to talk to these coaches. Yeah, I'm excited to get a little bit of a heads up on what we should be looking for as opposed to getting dropped in, they're blind without being able to see anybody's names or numbers or anything like that. So it should be a fun time, fun experience.

And in theory, the show should get better because of this. It should. I love the insight we're going to get from these coaches. I got some good questions, Des. I think just one question probably for each of us. We promised them a six-minute call. Perfect. So let's make sure we're not taking a lot of their time.

But yeah, that's a classic, hey, just need, you know, somebody will come up and try to pitch something in life. And they'll say, I just need five minutes of your time. Way too much. Never expect five minutes from anybody's time. That is a crazy number to say. 90 seconds sounds amazing. That's going to be five seconds or five minutes, probably six minutes.

But you need to get in the door with 90 seconds. That's what we did with these production meetings. Hey, we just need five minutes. Just five minutes. Can we just get a little bit of a thing? That obviously is going to creep into eight, nine, maybe ten. But we can't be getting to 15. That would be egregious.

So we just got to know that there is a sliding window of amount of time that they're expecting. And it's not a lot. We can steal a few on the back end. But we need to be respectful at the time. Debutt, you're getting more questions than the rest of us, definitely, you'll be in front of the line. I just need one. Just one go to go. No, no, but you go front of the line

and then we'll go back, but if there's another rep, you'll be in the front of the line. You know, like, off-season workouts, the terrible workouts. Yep. What part of the line you're in is obviously a massive piece of the amount of reps that you're going to get. So you don't want to be too obvious that you're trying to get to the back of the line.

So you try to sneak in maybe two from the end because they're going to attack the people that are at the back and put them into the front, because that's an extra rep. You see, if this is a three minute drill and there's a certain amount, the people at the front of the line are going to get the extra until the time runs out. So I learned that early. I was in front of the line early because I wanted to be a guy, you know, I'll go first, freshman. Why is everybody so, yeah, Pat, go ahead. And then I get through, oh my God, and then I got to go again. Oh, no, bad idea. So next year, sophomore year, obviously we don't want to go

all the way to the back. I've played poker since, you know, I'm 10 years old. We can't be over selling this thing so you go from two you know from the end get in there and then all of a sudden classic next year rich rod grabs the entire back line puts them up in the front says congratulations and now guess who's smart than everybody i felt like a genius next year did the same thing fun game he took the entire back half of the line put it up in the front half of the line so you know you're always evolving always changing but you certainly can be front of the line whenever it comes to questions so that if we get to the front and we steal another minute or two, you can get it because your insight during the game is special. Same with you, AJ. I think we try to provide

actual ball knowledge while calling the game and following the game while providing something different. I do think we try that. And I think we've kind of gotten to the point where we kind of know it, Ty. Yeah, I think so. I mean, at this point, how many of these have we've done? You know, it's been more that we've been doing this for several years now. And I think that's just natural with the first, like you mentioned this like a couple weeks ago, the first time you do it. It's like, okay, when you're on the sideline, we got to follow the ball. So like you, AJ and Dbutt are just like kind of just walking around the perimeter of the entire field. Then you realize like, oh, I just missed basically everything that happened on

that drive trying to see everything. So we got our spots, you know, like everyone kind of knows especially I think me, Diggs and Connor, like we kind of know which spots are that, hey, this is a good portion for you to maybe have something. Whereas at the start, it's kind of just like, you know, We're just trying to get our feet wet here and find out where we fit in. And at this point, I think, like, we kind of know how this experience is supposed to go. And we don't want to do a disservice the ball. Right. We understand we're having an opportunity that we should not have on that sideline.

We're on ESPN2 for a college football playoff game, and we're standing on the field in front of a hundred. How many people toned at Kyle Field down there? 110's the record. Okay, playoff game. Let's assume it'll be 110,000 people. We very much understand we're not supposed to be there. And we're very grateful for the opportunity to provide. an alternative to the main broadcast, obviously, Kirk Herb Street.

Is it? No, it's McDonough, I think, right? Because I think Herbie's calling Oklahoma. The night before, yeah. So it'd probably be McDonough and McElroy. Okay, so McDonough and McElroy will be on the call. We're on ESPN, too. Just an alternative, you know? If you want to come hang with us, we'll certainly be grateful. And this is one of the really, really, really, really cool parts of licensing the show through ESPN and having access to this.

So we're very, very thankful for the opportunity. Also, shout out to Peyton. and Omaha, who had this slot and then say, hey, do you want this slot now? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much. We'll just worry about this other one over here. You got it.

At the beginning of us having this alt-cast deal, we did a couple in here. It was okay. It was okay. I mean, Mississippi State Alabama, 31-0. That wasn't okay when we just threw the ball around. We set a world record. That's true.

Most completions during a blowout football game in the history of television, I would say. So we didn't have it, and we felt bad that we had the opportunity, and it was ass. The show was ass. Like, we did not think it was good for ball. Once again, lucky to have these opportunities. Let's provide something for the good of ball at least a little bit, even though I'm not everybody's cup of tea, so I ruin it for the rest of the crew to even have an opportunity

because I'm a part of some things. But we do like to at least add and provide. The first few were bad. As soon as we got on the sideline, it was like, this is the one that we're supposed to be. mostly me ex punter kicker I mean I've been on sideline watching football a long time like that is literally what my job was

for a long time and then AJ and Debuck get a chance to feel it and see it and then the boys getting a chance to experience something that they could have never experienced their natural brains and talent is going to point out things

so I think we've got something that is good for ball as an alternative and we're different than all the other oldcast just like Luke Keakley and Danerloves and Field Yates it's different than everything else I'm excited to see how it comes together Yeah I was going to say definitely don't be expecting the Monday

night football playbook with next gen stats if you're coming to watch our Altcast on Saturday. Yeah, because we have no idea. We would like to stress this again so you give us a little bit of grace whenever we're doing it. I am calling play-by-play for these games. I have no idea if it was a five-yard gain or

a two-yard loss from where we are doing. Which is a pretty important thing, especially whenever it's third down or fourth down. So there is a little bit of that where I'm just watching Jumbotron trying to figure out what the hell happens. But other than that, we think we provide a pretty good vibe. So we hope you'll come hang with us. And shout to Texas A&M. I think

we're getting, I think we're getting a full Aggie. Yeah, it's going to be sweet. Good matchup, too. Good match, but obviously that matters. It'd been a good game. We've had the opportunity to be on the sideline some great games and obviously some shite games. I expect this one to be a banger. Yeah, and JJ Watt has no idea what it's like to do this on television

for 25 minutes, you know, because the game is 30 to nothing in the fourth quarter. There's still three minutes left in that game. There's still another 25 minutes, and that's what we decided. to do just basically for the entirety. So now we're on sideline. So look how far we've come.

It's good time to catch up with this alt-cast thing that we've been doing because this one's much better than the alternative. Joining us now as a man who's in the booth must be nice. With a spotter must be nice. With some food must be nice. An absolute legend who's earned all of it. A future first ballot hall of famer. A Houston Texan legend and member of the Bullring of Honor.

Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Burnley Football Club, which I watched the other day. It was on TV this weekend. I think it was on NBC or something this weekend. They win? No, I don't think so. From the part that I saw, they were not winning at all. But, and also the Espaniel Soccer Dooper team over there in Spain.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ won. Yay, Jay-J. What's up, Jage? Hey, guys, how are we doing? I was just thinking this, as you were talking about the Alcast, and I was just looking at the visual of all you guys on the sideline of Kyle Field. Have you ever done a MySpace top eight-style ranking of the, boys like every week like who's your best friend who's on top of the show who's crushing who's

not no that's also dance moms i know what you're talking about like a pyramid type thing you know everybody's going to be fighting up the pyramid for the opportunity we're all equals here brother you know we're all equals here and everybody has the best week every week in their own ways and uh once everybody starts thinking then we'll start ranking participation trophies all around boys congrats on the participation you did it you did it we're up 17% okay Keep score, baby. Don't keep score. They are keeping score.

We're up 17%. Everybody's doing great. Hey, boys. Everybody's doing great. Everybody's doing great. Everybody's doing great. Really good job, boys. We're a good job, boys.

We're up a lot last year and we're up another one. So everybody's... Jay, everybody's doing good. Thanks. Everybody gets a juice box. All right. Is Burnley worth a fuck? Has anybody getting judged over there?

Is there a good tech to say an game against my hands, man? And that is going to be a good matchup. You guys are going to be on the sidelines for. Hey, we need you sometime to join us, obviously, because your height might help you actually. Kyle Field is, yeah, I've always said this. I've said this a long time. If I was designing a football stadium, Kyle Field would be the beginning template for what I would design.

Okay, so have you been there? Because I think Debutz landing in Houston and then driving over there. I think that it is in proximity of each other. Texas, obviously, massive state. I've gotten a chance to go down there with Game Day. I haven't seen a game there. I've only seen it from TV. it is awesome.

What a special place, right? Is that kind of how everybody uses it? Unbelievable atmosphere. Yeah, obviously they got there some of their weird things that they do, but somehow it all works. And on game day, it is phenomenal. What's weird, what's weird?

I mean, I think they self-admit that it's weird, but just some of the things that they do, just non-traditional, just different than other places. But college traditions that people have that we don't understand because we don't go there? Is that what it is?

yes it's exactly what i'm talking about oh i like age going to bat for the texas a and m people i i'm looking forward to it can i can i not hype up texas a and n now you're burying them i think is what a jac said i was trying to help you there i was trying to help but it's not weird right no no no see i'm a novice this isn't what you yeah but you don't you don't just blindly toss the praise out and act like there everything is 100% awesome like like we can we can be honest about things and be like yeah if you looked at it from the out there's there's some things that people from other places look at and are like all right yeah that's that's your thing i got that's how you guys do it i got it um but what i was saying if i could get back to it was that when it all

comes together on game day it's unbelievable everybody is packed on top of you this is not one of those stadiums that they left extra room so that you could have soccer games and concerts and everything. They smush this thing to the sidelines. They built it directly up into the sky and everything's looking down on you. It seems like that student section is going to topple onto the field. And when they play that power coming out onto the field, it is a place is cool. It's really, really special. So I think it's going to be great. And obviously, home with Shane Lekler. So you got to give the shout out. We'll obviously talk about Shane Leckler, who needs to be in the Hall of Fame stat. I mean, that is not even a question. Shane and Vinnie going in same time

would make a lot of sense, I think, because that's how kind of everybody kind of views. those two respective positions. But Shane Lackler, Stutt, goes there as a quarterback, right? Then he go there as a quarterback? Yep. R.C. Slocum. Can still spin it. Can still absolutely spin it if he had to.

Dude, perfect, also, down there, your business partners? Kyle want down her? There you go. Chuck something off the top deck. See, if you can hit something. Maybe we do do that. Maybe we send somebody. That's a good idea, Judge.

Toddler's done it before. You're welcome. This sucker's always working up here except for when it's not. Makes sense if you don't think about it. Let's go ahead and dump that because that is a really good idea. So let's make sure that doesn't get out. We should have. You guys should maybe be standing up on the top.

Yeah. You said to think is right on top of each other. You guys should stand at the bottom and try and catch it. Oh, not a bad idea. Marshmallow maybe. Oh. Or a football. Or a bowling ball.

See. Sure, bowling ball. That'd be easy. All right. So this weekend, college football playoff is awesome. The NFL, too. We're an incredible time. Tomorrow night, Rams and Seahawks kickoff week 16.

Saturday night we got important football. Sunday night we got important football. Monday night we got important football. Feels like it's special. But also, if you look at the playoff picture currently, there's a chance we have no idea how this is all going to shape up. What are kind of your thoughts on this NFL season as this is the current playoff picture?

But also, none of this is set in stone. And for the first time since 2016, we enter a week 16 with no divisional champions yet. it feels like it's all very much up in the air jage i feel like for fans i mean obviously outside of kansas city philadelphia in a couple of places that have traditionally kind of been there year after year this is going to be the most fun playoffs that we've had in a while from a standpoint of it feels like we're going in and anybody could beat anybody and you have no idea what's going to happen and so as somebody who's obviously out of the game now this is such a blast to watch because every week it feels like

something new is happening, somebody new's popping up. Now, you've got the Broncos sitting there at 12 and 2, and I think the Rams, Thursday night, it's going to be awesome, insane, because I think the Seahawks and Rams over there in the NFC are creaming the crop, and that'll be fun to see them both play. I don't love that it's on a short week

where they don't get the full prep, I don't see it at full force, but who knows, maybe we see it again at some point. But this playoffs, to me, tell me if I'm wrong, feels like one of the first in a long time where you're not penciling people in to move forward easily. No, absolutely not. And down the stretch, everything can kind of change, too, which is special.

I think the Rams are the only team we're all kind of high on, but then they lose to the Panthers three weeks ago, and we turned our tune quickly. I mean, all it is, one loss to change the entire picture, especially with three weeks remaining in the NFL season. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Jay, when you look at those AFC teams over there in the playoff picture right now, I guess which team do you trust the most to go on a run and potentially make it into the Super Bowl? I mean, obviously, I mean, the Texans defense is unbelievable. And if C.J. Straub plays like he has recently where they're starting to figure themselves out. I obviously have a lot of high hopes for the Houston Texans. I think when you play defense at that level now, they've definitely lost some guys to injuries,

which has hurt them a little bit, especially on the interior of that defensive line, which helps out the entire defense. But, I mean, I've said this for a few weeks now. Like, the Jaguars are underrated, and I feel like they get disrespected a bit at many turns here. um they're just quietly going about their business and improving every single game and Trevor lawrence is getting better and they're meshing together um so i think that's happened and then i just got to watch it last weekend live and i'll see it again this weekend when josh allen goes superman mode you can't stop them like he when he goes into that

mode and they decide like they were down 21 to zero on the road in a hat and t-shirt game and they found a way to turn it around and then i asked them to put together the stats because I have them again this weekend. Josh Allen's first half to second half stats are unbelievable. Let me lay this out for you here. First half, 64% completion percentage. Second half, 75%. First half, 95 yards per game.

Second half, 139 yards per game. First half, 10 touchdowns, six interceptions. Second half, 15 touchdowns, four interceptions. Now, here's where I think is the biggest difference. And here's why I think it's different. Rushing. Josh Allen, the first. half, 35 rushes, 146 yards, three touchdowns. Josh Allen in the second half, 63 rushes,

389 yards, nine touchdowns. I think the defenses get worn out trying to contain him, keep him in the pocket, and keep this team bottled up. And the Patriots did an unbelievable job in the first half, keeping him bottled up. But I think you just get fatigued over the course of a game, playing tight man, playing all these contains in the pocket. And then he just wears you down over the course of the game, sees you get tired and takes full advantage. That's the old Derek Henry conversation whenever he goes with the Titans. It's like, hey, what the first half is going to look like versus what? The fourth quarter is going to look like very different with Derek Kennedy.

Now, that's because he was literally thumping him. You're saying the amount of effort that they are trying to put in into keeping him contained can wear you down a little bit. Stay with Superman that you're talking about with Josh Allen. Yeah, it kind of seemed inevitable and it's going to be tough. We're talking about it yesterday. It's going to be tough for me at least to pick another team and quarterback specifically against Josh Allen once he's playing.

playoffs starts with Mahomes out of it. But you've had your eye on them. Is there enough around Josh Allen as far as the weapons on offense and then the defense, especially at run defense, do you think it's enough for them to actually make a run when the playoffs come? I mean, I think the defense is the question. I think on offense, I think they, I think their tight ends are such a massive key. I mean, you look at the numbers when Dalton Kincaid's on the field versus when he's

off the field. When he's out there, he's able to do so much. James Cook is second leading rusher in the league. could possibly get up there in the first category like just running all over when he runs wild their offense clicks um so i do think there's enough on the offensive side of the ball because josh is josh the defense is where you start to wonder and question about it now you have to give them credit while they got torched in the first half this last week they did lock it down in the second half and they found a way to close that game out massive moments they made plays

um so you give them credit there but even the week before against Cincinnati you know the big turnovers for touchdowns. They needed those big plays to do it. So if their defense can tighten it up, that's where it is. But like you said, D, but Superman is Superman and that Kansas City is not standing there

in the way anymore. And I don't like that it's a consistent caveat that we're throwing on it, but it is what it is. That's the reality. Put skate on, baby. You know, especially whenever it's cold weather, what he's going to be able to do. We just believe in Josh Allen. And I think, you know, the only thing that's waiting on a Josh Allen

resume to be goaded is Lombardi, you know, and that's what all anybody says is can he win, can he win, can he win? It's the same conversation that's happened with Lamar no matter how great you are, no matter how many MVPs, no matter how many capes you put on and win games, or how special you look like, then you get to a stage where it's like, well, how many Lombardies do

can you win the Lombardi? Because that'll be held against you forever. Is this the year that Josh Allen changes that? Start with Hard Knocks? Yeah. Announces a pregnancy, gets married, and Wins of Lombardi? Wow.

What a run for Josh Allen that would be. That franchise, too, because they had the four straight years going, losing it. If he can actually bring one to that way, which we all respect, you know, Bill's Mafia as a fan, well, most of us respect him as a fan base. That would be crazy if 17. New stadium? I mean, this would be like the send-off of the last thing. Oh, my. It's almost all written in the stars.

It's all there. Are they still calling them ugly? No. Uh, yeah, we don't have to get into that, I don't think. After the pregnancy? Yeah. Let's just say, he's not ugly. He's handsome.

You know what you're going to tell me? He's six foot five. What are? What's it? The Haley Steinfeld heads are. The Stein fans. The Stein fan stands. Get their names right.

They think Josh is ugly, JJ. It's messed up. That's what they said. We don't like it at all. We've actually had to go to bat a couple different times. And Josh is a friend of the program. They're going to look at this panel. We're not the people here to be judging who looks how, you know?

Neither are these people on the air of that. That's what we're saying, Jage. I appreciate you taking an opportunity to grandstand there. We're not saying that he is not attractive. What we're saying is they need to stop talking about our MVP like this. We don't like that. Josh is handsome. He's six foot five.

He's the MVP of the NFL. Cowboy. Though your little handsome models, Josh Allen will pick him up by the top of their head like this. Actually, smack him around. smack a moron. Who do they want? They like Shamelay? Well, everybody likes, everybody likes Timmy now.

That's not the guy. That's not the guy. And he's with Kylie, so you know. I like Timmy. I'm saying it as a good thing. Okay. Gosh, you guys are really just trying to throw me under the butt. Yeah, it's kind of been fun.

It's kind of been a fun. I didn't know this was going to be the day, but I do appreciate it. Neither did I. How about AJ? That's all right. I got my shovel big dog. I'll dig myself on. I'm all good.

Ain't no problem. I mean, that started with AJ going, what are you calling weird? Just real quick. You want to. offend an entire group of people. And he took a hit off his protein shake and all of a sudden turned into Lex Luthor over there. No, it's not protein.

That's the, what are those things? Aminos. Aminos, that's Aminos. Oh, you don't like my aminos? Yeah, I speak like that. James, do you drink aminos all day? Is that something you do? I take aminos.

I just had a shake after my workout with there were aminos in it, B-C-A-A. That tracks. God, you guys are your best. Remember Loran Landry? He was taking more than minos. But he was pretty strong. He was pretty strong. He had a red bottle.

My God. He had a red bottle. I mean, he's one of my favorite humans. I've ever witnessed in real life. Just so entertaining. So positive. Like, legitimate. There's not a negative thing that I could say,

Laurent Landry brought into our locker room. Other than the fact that he arrived at 280 pounds, we signed him to safety, 275, 280. And he decided, didn't tell anybody that he wanted to be a DN safety hybrid, is what he wanted to do with the Colts. Obviously, fresh off. Common combo.

Which, I mean, it would have changed the game. Look, the part. There's a chance he could have done it. I mean, there was a chance he could have done it in the first time he showed up. So I think there was an immediate, like, well, this guy doesn't care at all. And then we start to like hear him, talk, and watch him. It's like, this guy's the greatest.

This guy is maybe one of the most entertaining, electrifying humans of all time. But he had a red bottle that was with him at all times. I think it was even in his tights during practice where he, and just like AJ. AJ just had regular water there. There's a bottle right next. That's a red bottle that's always right. And the piss bottle. And there's a bottom attached to the table, obviously.

And that's a yellow one. Oh, yeah, right. He's hydrated, it's light yellow, which is what we're looking to do. Let's pivot away from you to physical specimens and what you guys do on a day-to-day. And let's talk about a physical specimen that ended up in an unfortunate situation, your brother. Obviously, we've learned a lot about his situation through your Twitter account, whenever you broke the news of, like, what actually happened. And I feel like you wanted to clarify some things or clear the air on exactly what took place.

How is your brother right now? Obviously, Steelers fans missed him on Monday night. They get their first win without him. Obviously, changed the course of Miami Dolphins football forever on Monday night, which some of the boys will ask you about. But from the Pittsburgh standpoint, with your brother, how's he feeling? Is everything okay? And was it a sketchy situation in there? I assume any time there's emergency surgery, it's not great news for the entire family or himself. Yeah, he's working through it. He's working through it. It's obviously not somewhere that he expected. or would like to be, but just handling the situation day by day and making sure to find the appropriate and proper steps to get back to where he would like to be.

Sketchy, though, right? I mean, that's probably because obviously things happen throughout a football season. There's injuries that take place. But hearing, I mean, obviously we're talking about your perspective from this. What you don't want to do, you want to talk about TJ because it is about TJ, but let's just talk about you because you're here and then you can obviously allude to T.J.

But just out of nowhere, that's a routine thing for him. He does dry needling on a regular basis. I assume this is a part of his regular game week routine. And then for that to immediately lead to, oh, he's going to here, oh, he's got an emergency surgery and lung involved. Like, that's pretty quick. How did you kind of handle all that stuff? And what was kind of the vibe of the Watts as a whole

as they get blindsided by this situation seemingly? Yeah, I mean, I would say unexpected is the appropriate word. um it i mean yeah driving is incredibly common everybody in the league most anybody who's been in the league has probably done it at some point um so yeah i i would say he he was certainly not anticipating being in the hospital and getting long surgery last week all right well please tell him uh i assume he doesn't watch this show he's too locked in on everything else hey he's probably right now actually taking his little fingers into his body and stretching out his lung to make sure entirely full. That's how we view you watch.

But please send our positive vibes and well wishes. That's scary shit. There's no such thing as routine surgery. Like anytime somebody says this, a normal surgery, routine surgery, it's like, uh, they put them out and are they cutting them open? Yes. Okay. This shit is not routine. This is a very serious, a very important thing. Happy to hear he's okay. Hopefully recovery will continue to go that way. We're sorry for everybody a part of that. Now, let's talk about the other side of that now. Pittsburgh Steelers get a massive win on Monday night football that TJ was not able to be a part of.

and then the Miami Dolphins start making some big-time decisions. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Jay's breaking news today. Tua is being benched in Miami, and Quinn Ewers will get his first start against the Bengals. It feels like a lot of people might have saw the writing on the wall with the Jalen Ramsey to a yuck-it-up session after they got blown out. And I believe he was the last one on the field with Jailen Ramsey,

having a jolly old time, even though their season was inevitably over after this loss. They are no longer lurking. What are kind of your takeaways from the two-a-time in Miami? And where do you think Miami goes from here? Just because, you know, it was kind of one of those things where they scored 70 points versus the Broncos a few years ago. They're changing offense in the entire NFL to this moment in time now where this has become a complete joke.

Miami and the dolphins look awful after kind of going on a little run during the season. Yeah, I mean, I'm a little, I know that this is, you know, old man good off. off the lawn type situation where it's old school. But I think I'm a believer in there is like at least a minimum responsibility on the optics and everything with the fan base and understanding how everybody's feeling after a certain game or after a way the season is going. And the fans, I mean, the players, you know, everybody cares so much about this game. And I do believe and it's, trust me, I'm not sitting here saying don't laugh and in that, you know, you know, You can't talk to a friend after a game or anything like that. But, like, I do think that there are some optics of when you're cracking up,

like belly laughing on the field after you just lost a huge game in that way to be eliminated from the playoffs. Like that, that's a look that doesn't go over well, whether it's with certain other players in the locker room, whether it's with ownership, whether it's with the fan base. Like, there is a responsibility, especially when you're the highest paid player on the team, and you are the leader of the organization. That's just not a good look. truthfully. I mean, point blank, you can't be doing that after she was lost.

Yeah, I was up for it. So, you know, I felt like a younger version of me, by the way, stayed all the way up through that entire thing. I think I was trying to celebrate with the ins are people who did not boo renegade, which is a very cool thing. I think it was active text messages coming from Pittsburgh about the team. We're all the way back. We're winning the Super Bowl. So maybe that's why it was up.

Game ends. I go to the bathroom. Okay? I come back out. Two is still on the field. okay I I go bluey going crazy got to settle him down come back in two is still on the field two is still on the field to his last guy off field basically and it's like how is the quarterback for the losing team last guy and to your point I felt like old man I was like don't get mad about this don't this is not a this is not a thing this is different generation obviously him catch up with jalen that's good news him and jalen are friends that's he jalen likes tua still has respect for tua wants to talk about two that means

two is a good teammate like I was going through all those things in my head but then I was just at the end like you'd never see any quarterback that's going to win a Super Bowl have that situation happen you know like that you would never patch Mahomes would we ever see him after a loss jovial the last person off the field uh at an away game at an away stadium after a loss it's like no Josh Josh Allen you would never see that like Peyton Tom I don't even want to have to get into that whole conversation Drew yeah right Drew was like genuinely shoot pissed it felt like every time so you then I started going back into that conversation I'm like this is year six for this. This guy's supposed to be, is already a made man at the quarterback position

getting paid. I just keep asking, where did this all, you know? Was it them trading away every good player that they had? Maybe, but they still had a chance to make it in the playoffs. Does he seemingly not care? Do him and McDaniel get along? Does a franchise like him? Does he not like the franchise? You know, you start asking all these questions and then they announced that he's bench for a seventh round draft pick and then you're like, well, what the fuck's wrong with Zach Wilson? Is Zach Wilson okay down there? Then I start asking all these questions. questions and then you immediately all the way lead back to his team hasn't won a playoff game in 25 years okay so there's probably a lot of problems let's assume that there'll

be a fresh start for all parties and hopefully it goes better let's go to the other half of the hammer dad cowboys bubble gumpino good news bad news we've moved on from two a time unfortunately it is good news because i like to when we draft to him i believed him in him but you go back to like his best season you remember how big he was like he was muscular stood in the pocket took hits through the ball deep and then he got paid and he completely changes everything like everything changed and then this year he throws teammates under the bus every time he talks it's never his fault and then that was the end of it on monday night like you can't do it anymore he's the face of the franchise doing this shit all season long it's been two years of this shit

that nobody's noticed they cut matthew judeon uh judeon is released by the miami dolphins his deal is one year's six million bucks. I don't know what that means for how much money is remaining. We clear waivers, we assume. We assume he will. But this whole dolphins thing, like McDaniel, we assume. Yeah, bye-bye. It's over, you know? And it's just like a restart down there. And that's where we're at right now. We're staring down restarts at some teams. And then we're staring down potential Lombardis at others. And it's a crazy time of year. And we're very lucky to be a part of it. In the Indianapolis Coats, staring down Lombardy still. Go ahead, Ty. Thank you.

Yeah, Jage, what did you think of Phil Rivers' performance last week? Because, you know, on every sports show kind of leading into Sunday, like there are people saying that it was like, you know, organizational mispractice for them bringing him back. This guy's going to get killed. We're worried about his family. And then he puts the Colts in position to win the game. Now, his stats weren't unbelievable, but I don't think anyone was expecting them to be.

But moving forward, do you think the Colts still have a legitimate chance to make the playoffs, especially if Phil Rivers is going to be the guy at the helm? Tough road. I mean, what I will say is that, like, I don't think there's certain people that went super far with their comments on, you know, everything. I don't think it was wrong to have concerns about him taking hits. Like, I think that was a legitimate thing coming in. Now, he did what I think exactly you should do, obviously hand the ball off and he got it out of his hands extremely quick because he's an unbelievable processor. And so I think it's awesome what he did.

I think literally him making it through the whole game, having a chance to win that game at the end, taking them down for the field goal, and then unfortunately losing it at the end. But it was must-see TV. It was awesome. And for him, it was probably the greatest feeling ever. And for all those kids back watching, like, it was so cool. And so as a fan of the game, I loved it. I am very happy that it ended with him successfully moving on to the next week and having a chance to do it again.

But I'm not going to sit here and act like I did an absolute concern. because I certainly did. I think we all did, you know, we all had the concerns. You know, five years away from the game. We all saw what he looked like. He looked fat, but then that got squashed pretty quick. Like your bag of leaves. The pregame warm-up shot with the jacket, like that rain jacket that kind of puffs out further.

It's windy in Seattle. It's not a good look. That was not the best photograph. Well, and also, I think with the hat, the way that the hat was fitting on his head in the way the hoodie was, there was potentially no real jaw line either. So, you know, in his press conference, so everybody's immediately going, there's some big old fatso

he's going to play quarterback for the Colts, and what are we doing? And Phil Rivers' answer was like, I never run away from anybody anyways, and I have no idea what my weight was coming off Buffalo. I don't know what it is now. Then he put the pads on, put short pads on. He had the rib protectors,

the spleen protector on. And he looked exactly like Phil Rivers. I'm happy that happened. And the all whites that the Colts wear, not easy. You cannot hide in there. That's why on Monday. You cannot hide in there.

We got the Indiana Nights uniforms on Monday night football. Boom. On Monday night football. Yeah. No. Yeah, she grew up tall and she grew up around with the Indiana boys on the Indiana Nights. That song's about marijuana, and I love it. And I love that we're using the Indiana Nights uniforms in a night game.

Monday not smoking that. Sam Fray and Pack. Good question. It's stupid. What's that? Why is it a lowercase eye? Yeah. Hey, Jay, with a great point.

No, don't worry about it. Worry about the graphic. That's a capital Y in the graphic. Don't worry about it. I had to intentionally do that, though. Yeah, because at least they're wearing them at night. I mean, this is a step forward. Thank you.

Let's not worry about the lowercase eye in the, in the... Are these the ones with the blue jerseys? Is that what this is? Yeah, that's why they blacked it out in the photo. These are just to even tell what it is. Look, how I'll take that. Come in this and look at that jersey. Sweet is a stretch.

Boom! Oh! Boom! Sauce. That's a night time, baby. This is built for the stars. This is built for... Oh, sorry, sauce, yeah, but...

This is Sauce Gardner's. This is Sauce Gardner's. What I mean? Bill for the Stars. Built for Primetime. Built for Phillip Rivers. Now, Phil Rivers also hasn't had the opportunity to play in front of a packed-out,

Lodd House and Luke Saw Stadium. Because whenever he was Colts quarterback, they had cardboard cutouts of me. And the boys in the stands during COVID. So it's a crazy time here in Indianapolis. We got night uniforms for a night game. Because remember, they rolled these things out. The marketing department had a brilliant idea on these Indiana nights,

which I would like to be heard loud and clear that I appreciate the fact that they're pulling from a Tom Petty song about weed and they're promoting it because if you play that guitar lick anywhere, everybody will sing along and it obviously puts Indiana in a great place. But whenever they rolled out, we did it with one o'clock games. And we didn't make playoffs, and we stuck, so there was no prime time. They actually changed the rule, I think, for the Indianapolis Colts, not to have to get a Thursday night game.

Like, usually every team had to get a Thursday night game, at least, for one time, prime time, and then they changed that rule. And the team, the next year that didn't have any of the prime time games, was the Indianapolis Colts. And we had Indiana Knights waiting on deck. So they rolled this thing out, and they put them on at 1 o'clock, and we lost. So all across the board, we lost, I think. So now that it's Monday night football, and we got the Indiana.

a knight's uniform, San Francisco 49ers, good luck. Bob Salah has no fucking idea what he's about to walk. He has no idea what he's about to walk. He's going home. You can't even see the uniform in the picture. Exactly. It's in there.

They know. Why did they not capitalize the eye? That's disgusting. Because no eye in team. Well, there's two eyes in Indiana so you need them. Somebody's going to tweet us and be like, hey, morons. This is why. Yeah, there's got to be a reason, right? I don't know why. I think that it might have to

do with some of the stuff that's like the cool intricacies of the new uniforms. Like, there might be something like that. Like I know the cults, the symbol itself has the outline of the state of Indiana, I believe in it. Like, it might be some cool little thing that we're forgetting. Bruce Brown just did some deep diving. Speaking of cool little things, that tarp you got on is sweet, brother. Thanks. We beat the absolute shite out of that Dork Ryan Smith's Utah Mammoth last night. Utah Mammoth, a good team I heard.

Oh, yeah, and there's a team that's better. And they're in Boston, baby. Ryan Smith is a super genius. We appreciate his work ethic. There's a chance. Some would call him a dork, especially if you're losing to the Boston Bruins. Yeah, good luck with you.

Focus on your jazz line. Everyone's pretty bummed out about them, too. They're building a facility right now. That's going to be the nicest facility in all sports. By far. I mean, they got the mammoth thing going, too, but a lot of people are. I don't back down now.

Don't back down now. You don't do it at all. Have you heard about what they're doing with their practice facilities? It's cool, man. Yeah, they're opening it up to the public, like part-time. I don't know, maybe. That sounds like a good business venture that Ryan Smith would potentially do, but if it's going to sacrifice winning, he will stay away from it.

Bought a mall. Okay. Mall, you know, you know, mall's gigantic. I'm aware. Carry on. Department stores, you know, big department stores are, like the North. The Northbury. Jaycee.

Jayce Penny. Dillard. Yeah, bought a mall. Okay, and now he's turning like, J.C. Penny is the Utah Jazz facility, and then you go up, some actual escalators that are there, go down, and then you enter into the Utah Jazz facility, which is like Nordstrom or something like that. And they're both gigantic, built it up in one year, the Mammoth side of it, going to do the same thing for the Jazz. And then I do believe it is going to be there's a public area of the mall that's going to be on that side. If their teams could just get good, you know. Mammoth have. The Jazz, they actually really, really are in a bad side.

spot. Why is that? Because they thought they were potentially going to get the number one overall pick. Yeah, it turns out Oklahoma City has their pick and now Oklahoma City's going to have two top ten picks and actually the jazz are contributing to ruining the entire NBA if that happens with the Oklahoma City Thunder. But that might not happen. But practice facility, very good. Very good. Very good. And the modest are climbing. Very good. And it's beautiful. But that is a beautiful sweater there for the Boston Bruins as the NHL continues to be awesome. And to wrap up the Colts, lowercase eye thing. Bruce did some research.

I guess this has happened multiple times. There's somebody that's really new and cool that has a social media degree that wants to add their own little flavor. Yeah, all right. Just capitalize the goddamn eye. I know you've got a social media degree, please. It's named for state, you know.

What a joke! I hate the social media people. Not everywhere. Just the super duper geniuses that are, you know, have an autistic choice they took. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I believe that is what. Bruce has come to a quick conclusion that there's potentially a new thumb on the social account

and kind of want to make their own mark or maybe, you know, leave their own little artistry. Maybe start a trend. Maybe start a trend. Michigan Accomplish. I believe the chargers are lowercase only over on their ex-cats. So it is a bit of a thing. Not a bad idea to follow the charges. Maybe we back off this take. We have not gotten full context of it all.

If you were doing what the chargers are doing, we would like to say, hey, this new social media person really doing it. I really like what they're doing. Innovative. I really like what they're doing. See new information. We keep it moving. But on that note, let's capitalize that eye. Yeah, there's nothing cool about being wrong.

That's not the way it's spelled. Especially with states. Yeah, especially this, our state. Especially Indiana. Yeah, our state. Yeah. Especially. Ty, are you leaning up over there?

Ty, are you leaning out? What are you talking about? I don't know. You just look lean. You look very lean. Am I leaning out? No, that's very nice of you to say that because I probably need to lose about 35 pounds.

So thank you. Oh, new year and new you, coming right up. So thank you for saying that. That actually makes me feel great. So maybe now I'm not going to do anything for the next, you know. Thank you, Jay. Thank you, Jay. Thank you.

My turn. Be your friend, tell a friend. You are, looks like you might be getting the holiday bump. Whoa. Thank you. The holiday weight loss bump. It looks like you. It looks like you have some good cooks in your family.

Oh, I like that. The kitchen's obviously operating at a optimum. Mother's a fine cook. Yeah, okay. Connor, how long is the hair going? Because I am on chop watch. I am near the end of the line here. I think I'm at the end.

Are you at the end? Where are you at? No, I'm not. I mean, I think I've gotten past the point of where I wanted to be. So I need to trim it up maybe a little. But I don't think you should cut your hair. Where are you at? Where are you at?

I'm at the point and probably just past the point of where I would like to be. Okay, will you? My question for you is, will you continue to be Hat Guy to keep it down? Because hat at the beginning to keep hair down while it's a huge ordeal. Yes, I think it's a technique that is used by a lot of people. You can continue to do that while continuing to grow it out, right? I cut you off there. But will you continue to do that while you grow it out?

Well, no, I don't want to grow it anymore. I am done growing it. It is at the length where I definitely don't want it to be any longer than this. I think it might even be a touch too long at the moment. The hard part is on something. I like wearing a hat. I like to flip out the back of the hat. But on Sundays, I got to go on air.

And for four hours, this has to somehow stay like, okay. But you put on a headset, you put off the headset, you're out in the elements. Like, it doesn't stay good for that long. So I don't know what to do. Spray, hat. Let it dry. Yeah, I know. I do that.

But then I got to take the hat off to go on television. And you're telling me your hair has so much bantz that it's battling through that? It'll do this thing where it like, yeah, like it like falls down in front like this thing. Yeah, it actually looks awesome. Yeah, that's a good look sweet. You have good hair. You have really good hair. I don't think you should be embarrassed by it.

Had the reverse cloth this week, too. Usually, JJ, I noticed you go left to right, but this week it was right to left. Do you have a lot of calyx in there or no? It's not too bad. I don't know. I think your hair is good, dude. That would be a fun gimmick coming back from break, and if you do what you just did, and then your hair. Just get a little quaff.

Just get a little quaff. Every once in a while, Joey Burrow will get like the, the curl. Boom. The curl down in front, like Razor Ramon. Yeah. I think you should think about that whenever you're doing it. Your hair's good, dude. I don't think you should quit on it. And don't be, for me at least, don't be fickle about it. That's my problem.

Like, I want to look exactly one way. Once you do that, then you're just going to, you're going to drive yourself crazy. You're chasing. You're chasing. Speaking of chasing. That's fair. Matthew Judon is going to be available, we all assume. There was a team that lost a great pass rusher that might be in the market. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, JJ. Tough weekend of injuries. obviously with Michael Parsons going down.

How big of an impact is it with Green Bay losing him and what does their defense look like moving forward? I mean, it's a gigantic impact. He is a phenomenal player. He changes everything for how teams have to block to account for him to know where he's going to be. Lines up all over.

He's explosive. He's an incredible player. And when you're losing one of the best players in the National Football League, you can't replace them even with one, two, three guys. It's just different when you have that level of athlete on the field that you have to account for. So yeah, they can go out there and get somebody. It's not going to be the same. It's going to be more of by committee figuring out how this defensive front is going to get the pressure

to try and somehow replicate a percentage of what he's leaving behind. And that's guys stepping up. It's games. It's games. It might be pressure from the second level or the back end. But it is going to be the whole defense rallying around. You literally cannot replace a player of that caliber with one or two guys. I mean, would a hometown or a home state guy maybe take, I don't know, $25 million to come back

and maybe try to fill that void for a playoff run here? Oh, Mama, AJ Watts and the Packers? I wanted to play for the Packers and Free Agency. I know. I wanted to go to Green Bay. They were not interested. What? That was old Jean. Yeah, I was going to say we got Ed

policy now finish your story that's where I wanted to go I told my agents I don't care what the number is I don't care how low it is tell me what it is so I can at least consider it I said I'm not saying it's a guarantee to take it but I said if it's two million if it's four million whatever the number is

put it in front of me so that I can at least consider it against all these options and they said we can't get a number they don't even make an offer to JJ what I got I mean I don't I don't What year is it? What year? This was 2020. This was right before I went to Arizona.

It was 2020. So you're still playing football. 20? You should kick the door down. It went in there. This is my real free agency. I said we went to go through the list of everything on what you want to do. Where would you like to go?

What kind of, what are you looking for? And I said the ideal situation for me would be to go play for the Green Bay Packers. That's where I grew up. I watched Reggie White. That would be incredible. I said I'll take a significant. significant hometown discount to play there. And I said, but I just need to know what that looks like so I can at least consider it

against all options. And I was not given a number to consider. Oh my gosh, Jake. Now, that might have been your agent saying, we're not telling this guy this small of a number because obviously that affects what number. We're getting in this entire thing. And there has been stories of agents potentially not telling people things so they can guide them in a different direction.

So we're not 100% sure. You would know better than us. Yeah. No, I'm not 100% sure. But what it sounds like right now, what it sounds like right now is the Green Bay Packers said, who? Yeah, see ya. And just kind of moved along with JJ one.

That's awesome to hear right now. I didn't do that. I can tell you, with out question right now, I can tell you that $5 million would have gotten it done. Oh, geez. How much did you end up taking? How much did you end up taking? I think like 15. God damn, they would have done that.

We consider it one more time. million now. We'll say seven and a half. We'll say, we'll give you a 50% bump. Yeah, you still got that log cabin up there? You still got that log cabin up there. Maybe we can move back in and go in a playoff run. Jage, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. You're the greatest. Genuinely, you are the best. You're too good at football

to be as good of a human and actual human that you are. It really doesn't make any sense. And then we see that your hair is also flawless as well. Pretty outrageous. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Hey, I appreciate you guys very much. It's a last every single week. I hope you guys have a lot of fun at Kyle Field. That'll be awesome. But seriously, this show is it's so much fun every single week. I know I tell you all the time,

but I really, really appreciate it. Your fans are awesome. It's great to get mentions from them all the time, and you guys are the best. Our fans, brother, you're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Y! He's awesome. Great on the call, too. Yeah, he is. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. Good vibe while watching, no matter what's happening. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, point out the good in the game. Yeah, there's good stuff. You know, ball time's going. I know we're getting a break.

He remember he filmed ball time. That's got to come out soon. Ball town. Town. Oh, yeah. Ball time. I thought. Oh, that was Ball's time.

Wow, we'll figure it out. Either way, great promo, great keys. Yeah, because we remember it still. All right. See more. That was our best. That was, yeah. That was our best.

That was one of the best ones ever. I don't know why I had to bring it up with 20 seconds to go. Yeah. But then again at 10 seconds. I wanted to ask him about it. It's ball time. I thought it was... Calling back, he called...

Call him back, please. I think it's Balls Town. I thought, yeah. He is different... Neither. I think it's... He pluralized balls and you changed the time.

But I think it's... He filmed, like, I thought he had a whole season in the can. Like, I just want to see when it comes out. Me too, bro. We're thinking the same... Hey, we're thinking the same thing. I forgot it existed, and then you brought it up.

Balls Town. Okay. Balls Town. That was about all... Joining us now, ladies and the host of Balls Town, we think j j what was the name of that show thing that you uh you recorded you remember what's that now balls town ball town yeah it never happened didn't come to fruition what learned don't you filmed a few right yes yeah we filmed a pilot and filmed some stuff who owns the footage who owns

footage yeah it's a cartoon it's a cartoon is it what do you mean is it who owns it though um i mean i I would imagine that I still own a portion of it. So it's not ever yet. It's not ever yet. Okay. So just if you know, there might be some people that would be interested in purchasing rights. Did you voice the characters or something?

How's that if it's animated? Yeah. Yeah, it's animated. So I voiced the character. There's, yeah. I love the concept. I really love the concept. It's, uh, it's literally, it's kind of like cars, but for sports.

Like the balls can talk, all different balls. Like you'd have, you'd have a golf ring over the golf ball. You'd have, you'd have, a basketball star voicing over the basketball. Yeah, me voicing over the football. It was really cool. So, yeah, sounds really cool. What have you watched it and you hated it?

No, I liked it. It was a very interesting time back when we were shopping it, like with streaming and the amount of shows and everything and just what would be required to make it happen. Didn't happen. Say no more, my friend. Sounds like this Ballstown still awaiting

a release date, but it still... How did this come up? I didn't... I got a off and you guys start talking about ball town a j said i wanted to ask him about ball time is what he said and then we said no i think it's ball's town and then we forgot all about it though and but it needs to not be forgotten that thing needs to be well that's good for sport i talked about that one a little too early i brought that like i've learned that i you can't bring things up to that early it's a life lesson no it's all right no that's still alive i want to see that Are you going to Kyle Field?

I will be there, yeah. It's going to be sweet. I've never been there. It's a great place. I mean, obviously, Ohio Stadium is an awesome place. The thing that separates it for me is how close to the field. Like, Ohio Stadium has that one end zone that's real deep back behind that flagpole. I just love how this one is just everything on top of you.

I appreciate the fact that you pointed out, instead of making it wider for concerts and anything else that they could potentially profit off of the stadium for, they decided to make it strictly for the environment to be as hard as possible and a home field advantage, which you respect, which we also respect, and we will bring that up whenever we're certainly talking about it. We need the save ball down for the good of sport. Yeah. This needs to happen.

Sports need that. All right. What do we got here? There's some angle here. No. There's no angle, literally. AJ kind of ruined the exit off ESPN completely because you brought up a ball down. I remember you brought up like six months ago, I believe.

Is it animated so you could say like, controversial things to get away with it. Is that why you did that? That's why people do that. What's happening here? Cartman can say whatever they want. Yeah, I guess we don't know what the context of the... You can say whatever you want on SpongeBob SquarePants.

Like, what do you mean? No, a family guy, though, in South Park. That's why I think... And also, Jeff Dunham, the... Ventriloquist. It's not me. It's terrible what this person's saying over here. It's a good little play by comedians.

which we respect. And AJ was wondering if that's what you guys are doing with this particular one. So you can kind of let some jokes fly. I picture it like recess. I loved the show recess growing up. I liked recess. Yes.

It was a great ones. Hey, Arnold. You know, some of those. My son watched Jingle all the way the other night. Not animated, but just underrated Christmas movie. Yeah. Okay. Let's make sure Ballstown is not dead.

How's your dog, by the way? I got to ask you, because I saw your post the other day where he was just chomping at the food bin. Love the attitude of this new dog that we've got. Yeah, hungry dog. It is a hungry dog all the time. This dog is supposed to be, I think, grazing planes with cattle or any other animal horses. I've heard these things herd horses, okay? So horses can really run, you know, and horses are really tall. So to be able to heard said things, you would assume would have to have respect for the stature of said dog, which I think

were nowhere near the end of where this thing is headed towards, you know, with the size of its mitts versus the size of its entire thing. How did you get it? Hamilton County Humane Society. Hamilton County Humane Society, you know, was sitting there staring through the picture with its ear, which he still does, ears back, just did something that was catastrophic to the house.

Come sit over, I'm so sorry, I just have too much energy. He's tails just going, what do you want for me, dude? This is just who I am. I am so sorry, and then go down on the back, and then you start pet him, they get super excited, so he pees on you. And obviously, when he's where he's peeing, his bladder's gigantic. So it's just your entire arm is just now getting blasted with piss while he's peeing on himself.

So now he's got pee on himself and on his shirt. So then he gets up and you go back to your room, you know, because you need to take off the piss shirt that you have on now because you would like to hold your child, you know, but you don't want to lay in the piss. So as you head back to the bedroom, you know, you notice that the dog actually jumped 45 feet and landed on the bed, which is cool that it landed on the bed,

but you remember that it just pissed all over itself. So now he's laying on bed, you know, taking up the whole thing. He's kind of cutting that thing. You know how sandwiches can be cut diagonal? so on the bed he's diagonal and he's tip to tip you know from that he's taking up the whole thing so it's really but then he gets down again he goes

I didn't know you how did you expect me to know I was so comfortable so nice I was in a fucking bin just a couple weeks ago and then he sprints in then he's back it's like he's a good dog it's a great dog you can tell good dog good nature but boy big what's the plan for exercising this thing that normally runs with horses

so electric fence we're putting in okay we got property out here in which is good news, but also there's like a foot of snowdown. So it's tough to get in anything, you know, because this was kind of spur of the moment decision to just have to get this dog within the next day, too. So there wasn't. Yeah, look at that guy.

Wasn't a lot of... Give me that damn food. Give me that damn food. And he dragged that. Do you like eat pillows and stuff or mess the stuff up? No, doesn't do any of that. Oh, then you're good. You're all right. He just, he gets excited in peas and has so much energy and he's always hungry. Like, he will always want to eat. And I think it's because he has to grow, but we'll feed him like i'll feed him to like what you think will make him happy and then you put the food

away and then all of a sudden no we're in the vicinity of food i need it and uh he'll actually head nod at this point don't chuck him man don't you dare chuck this guy he can't he can't he literally can't i have to run sprints in-house with this thing at night to try to just get it to stop so he's going to end up turning me into a much better fit person but also i'm going to have to add completely a daily routine of running to Connor to take him on your morning jogs every day. That's not a bad idea. You two go on your daily jog together. It's not a bad idea. I got some

messages from somebody that lives in my neighborhood that says, I got one of those similar dogs. I ran it for seven miles today. I think it still wants to go out for another one. So what I'm worrying is the more I work out this dog, I think we're just creating a turbo man of sorts, if you will. And I

potentially am about to get run out of the gym by this dog, no matter what I do. It's a never-ending chase to get this dog tired. And from what I've been told by people, that have these dogs is this fucker ain't ever tired that's why this yeah you don't expend enough energy as it is you definitely need more energy expenditure on your plate yeah and that's what we got we're blue you know that's what we got are you guys going to the friday night yell lead we are and that's what you were talking about my god i got i cannot wait to just take that content into

my eyeballs us experiencing it is what you're saying yes yes I am very excited to experience you experiencing it. Yeah, I think what Jade is excited for. Hey, can we get you in some overalls? I was trying to ask you this. I don't know a whole lot about it. I want to you to describe. I'm not sure what it is.

I've seen a couple of videos online, but I'm not sure if they were real or not to be truthful. I believe there are either painted or bedazzled overalls involved. Painted. Please. There is a lot of this. That's the final call. Yeah, that's the final hand signal.

but they do a lot of that's them sawing off the long horn okay that's them acting like a saw right there and that's while they're singing and that's the cut off the horns of the long horn because they hate dicks they don't it's like it's like that part is awesome it's like this like weird juxtaposition of like all right that was weird but that was awesome uh oh it's like that girl who was on like uh huh oh that's good gift we just got another one too right there of j j y somebody ripped that i can't wait through respond to somebody when they say something stupid. I'm just going to drop J.J. Watt in there.

Conflicted J.J. Watt. What an absolute stud. I know what you were talking about, though, because a lot of people do judge Texas A&M people. And you said self-admittedly, I do think they all say, like, we do stuff different down here. That is that is way, but they're all all in. So that makes it cool. They wear those rings, too. They all get rings. And that is a real, real thing. I mean, being in Houston, like, they have an eggy ring and you wear your Aggie ring.

It's not like a Jostons High School ring Where put it away forever I think that was very full time I think yeah I don't know which finger It actually might be yeah on your finger Like they wear an Aggie ring That is a real thing

You'll see it like out at dinner They're like eggy And they what? And yeah look at this ring If it was just pinky rings only And they called themselves The Texas A&M Dawns And then every time they saw each other

They pinkie to pinky with that That'd be a pretty cool little thing Let's try to get one of these Dawn rings this weekend Let's earn one this weekend with her yelling. Let's do that. There is that the ring? Great research. Super speed, guys.

Really good job back there. Good pull, Bruce. Good pull, Bruce. Is there any other information on this website here about this, Bruce? Yeah, it's like an alumni ring or when you're a current student? When you graduate. No, when you graduate, you get the ring. The Aggie ring, one of the greatest moments for an Aggie is the day they receive their Aggie ring.

As the most visible sign of the Aggie Network, the Aggie Ring is a unique representation of achievement as it can only be ordered when a student completes specific academic. Well, we got no shop, boys. All right. Well, congrats to all of them. Congrats to all of them. All right, Jay, you're the man. Have a great weekend.

And let's bring Ballstown back. It's not dead if it never started. Right? It just hasn't started yet. Yeah. True. It had to be terrible, right? Is that why it's so bad.

It's cartoon and it's JJ Watt. You would think that would get sold pretty quickly. You would think that. I mean, he did say something along. Maybe it was like, we love this. We want nine seasons and 100 episodes of this. And he was like, I don't know if I want to sign up for that. Yeah.

So maybe us bringing it up, almost put him back into like, oh, no, you just help the people who are telling me that we should do this. They got a little bit more leverage now because there is a demand for it because A.J. Hawk remembered it with 20 seconds left in the show, which is a good thing because I think sports, one of those would be good for kids. My kids would love it, yeah. I've been mean to ask him for like eight weeks. I just never thought to bring it up until right then, for real.

Maybe 12 weeks probably. I've been meaning to ask. I'm happy we got to, hey, it's a big day today. Yeah, got it off of mine. We should get you an Aggie ring to celebrate the achievement of getting done. I can't wait to get down there. And obviously, you said I've seen some videos that I don't know if they're real or not. I do think they are real.

That's an honest, that's an honest statement I made. I know. I know. And I think we were all thinking the same thing when we saw them. We're like, nope, can't be. That's not how it is. But then you get down there and you think, oh, everybody that's ever been here is all bought in on this.

And then you start thinking about other people's, what do they do as their traditions and everything like that? And it's like, oh, this is just how they go about doing their shit. But what I do know is it provides an electric environment for a college game day every time we've been down there. It's been awesome. I assume every game that happens down there is awesome. And now they've got a team in a playoff.

It's going to be absurd down there. So it's at midnight. This goes on for how long? The yell? Yeah. I don't we've ever been. I have no idea. But like, do they go home and then come back, get some sleep and then come back for the game?

From my understanding, because I've been down there and I walked around town. And Gumpy, remind me if I'm wrong here, there was people camping out of the stadium to get into the stadium overnight. But not everybody that goes into the midnight yell could camp out at the stadium because I think they're filling that thing up with like 50,000, 40,000 people at midnight, the night before the games. I think, is it exactly at midnight, is around midnight, how long it is? we don't really know any of those things. We just know that we were asked if we wanted to come see it, and that was an immediate, yep, can't wait to see that. I'm excited for it.

But a midnight pep rally is crazy to think about, the night before every home game. That's like a lot of commitment, which once again goes to they do things that nobody else does, but everybody's all in, which makes it a cool experience, kind of at JJ's point. Yeah, when we were there, it started at like 1130. They started letting people in.

I'm not sure if they actually kick it off at midnight because there's 10,000, I mean, 40,000, 50,000 people literally lined up around the stadium to get into this place. And then some of them were camping out just around where Game Day was. They had those kind of pockets, not trailers, but like there were a little tents around. I'm not sure if they're actually camped for the game, but they were camped for Game Day. And they had their own little like areas, tents, kind of similar to Bama, how Bama had like a tent set up behind Game Day. But I'm not sure if it's exactly the same.

But yeah, I mean, they start letting people in. And I mean, they might not be able to get it going by midnight just because so many people are lined up and they've got to get everyone in. It's a wild thing to witness because it's like these people are not just fans of their team. It's like they are so committed. So whenever a win happens, it's like it was all worth it. You know, it's like the highs and the lows whenever you're that fully committed to something are more. So I think that's why the environment is created to be what it is because it's like a very big investment to be a fan down there. They definitely have great fans.

We played them in my junior year. We played them in a bowl game in the Alamo Bowl, which was in Texas. So they traveled well to that game. And we did a pep rally, and they did like a miniature version of that. And I was like, oh, I mean, that was pretty intense with 3,000. And you guys have a good cult yourselves. We had a great fall. It was a great game.

And we filled up the Alamo Dome. It was a great game. It was for a bowl game. It was a bowl game. They had Vaughn Miller, Michael Bennett, Red Bryant on their defensive line. I mean, they were good. Nobody cares about these bowl games anymore. I'm about done with that.

Yeah. We need to bring back the... Who wasn't matter? No. Good luck. All the ball games need to matter. This is a bonus game for these boys. We got two CFB games that don't fucking matter.

There's these stupid fucking little schools. They need to get rid of all that shit. Fucking done. At least you got college football. What about the bonus games that the boys worked hard for all season? Absolutely. They should turn them into high school showcase games because all the good players from these teams don't play.

and then all the players who are still on the team probably won't even be on the team next year because they're going to transfer. But, and that bull game provides another spotlight on a player to potentially transfer or for a team's coach to potentially move or for the team to look like their ass in a grander stage.

But it's always for the gamblers. Isn't that always the thing? Like, well, bowl season will always exist because it always does ratings and it will always have a lot of people invest because of the gambling. Let's go to one half of the Hammer. Don.

Cowboys and Hammer. On Todd, AP tone. I haven't heard much about bowl season gambling or even watching habits like what, the last two years basically, right? Have you? Is there going to be a, what is kind of the convo of the change in perspective or change in, I guess, relevance of entire bowl season? What does it look like?

Are they going to get, I don't think it's a, like, as far as gambling is concerned, I don't think the bull season is affected at all. People are going to bet on it because it's a game and it's happening and it's on TV and also people are going to do the same thing, mostly watching it. I assume the numbers are going to be down as far as watching because, yes, the games don't matter as much and eventually bull season will probably end and die, especially once the college football playoff expands. But, you know, that's fine.

I mean, it was great while it lasted. I'm a Gator Bowl champ. Okay. Yep. I'm a Monarchy Car Carlin. There you go. Go bowl. West Virginia has been multiple time Mayo Bull champs.

Mm-hmm. okay there's some pop-tart bowl champs and today we find out who the staff DNA cure bowl champion will be I've been waiting for this one old dominion at south Florida south Florida favored by two and a half is what I mean the FBI projection says south floor sure win by about five point eight points you're getting good points on the spread just from the prediction model to what the sports books are saying and then the 68 ventures bowl this ain't 60 ventures it's saying 62 not even 67 This is 68 Ventures, Bull, Louisiana, favored by three against Delaware. This is what we're talking about here with bowl season.

Hell yeah. You're saying people just bet on it because it exists? Yeah, we had a team ride yesterday on Jack State, everyone in Hammered Downtown, and they won because you can still win money off of these games. The FPI also doesn't do the research on what quarterbacks and the opt-outs and stuff like that. So I wouldn't trust that FPI much. Are you guys breaking down? Oh, yeah.

Bowl season on Hammer. Every single game. Every single game. They should do the NIT. No, these guys? No. Hammer done? The, these bowl games, they should just do an NIT type tournament.

Like if we're going to do a college football playoff, instead of doing random bowl games every night, do an I. It's not a bad idea. That's more shitty bowl game. No. It's not. It's less. We are the not real champion.

Same guy's going to opt out. There's a natural champion. There's a not real champion. You can have a New Year's 6th bowl. You can end it on January 6th. Not a rotating basis. It's a part of the... But I mean, now the New York 6th, we only have what?

Two New Year 6 bowls? You're telling me, Michigan, Texas doesn't deserve to be in the not actual champion champion bowl. I think it should be. Jesus Bowl, by the way, always brings it. Still a great bowl. You know, the ReliQuest Bowl. It's a marquee bowl still.

So, you know, those are the ones that we really really. can't get rid of some of these other bullshit ones like the 68 Ventures one we could probably see that. What about the staff DNA? Staff D&A, I've been juiced up for this one for a while because Old Dominion's quarterback is very good. Great run game. Yeah, exactly. So we'll see that one is obviously everyone's going to be looking towards that. Barron Brown's not playing. No, he's not. Who isn't? Who's Byron Brown? Exactly. Exactly. That's South Florida. Boom. I'm talking about old to me. Old Dominion run game. Unbelievable. Oh, it's, Tom, it sounds like you're heavy on Old Dominion right now. Let's not tell too many people about what's

happening with South Florida. Old Dominion's quarterback is also not playing because he's going to be one of the higher quarterbacks in the transfer portal, but their backup quarterback played in the last game last year ran for over 200 yards. So, yeah, maybe I am high on Old Dominion. I don't know. And their coach isn't leaving.

So you're saying, shh. Who had the idea to have the bowl games at the beginning of the season? I think that was the best idea. Sorry, what? Yeah, start the season out. Kind of how college basketball is with some of the, you know, Big Ten versus A, C, or whoever, just start out. First, like, if Texas and Ohio State

had a bowl game to start the season out, okay, then that way the bowl games are still significant. You still get the sponsors, you still get the money, everybody cares, all the players play, you got your coaches. Doesn't count towards the regular season. You just call yourself the champion going into the season.

It'll help with, you know, ranking, more than to the rest of the season. And you'll be forced into playing a big game as opposed to being scared to playing one. The week zero. And if it gets understood, like, hey, this is not your actual record. This is literally just bowl game you go into the season as this bowl champion. Then you can get the big names in these

shitty bulls. Exactly. That's a good idea. I had not heard that. So it's like preseason. No, it's like Qualies in F1. It's like the Maui invitational on basketball. Let's go comparison. It is like the qualities, I guess. It is like the Maui invitational. It is like a preseason,

but it's basically a bowl game, a big significance. And then you go off the rankings off of that. Yeah. wow this is a good idea I don't know who to give credit to but it was somebody with man imagine the Mayo Bowl

Ohio State take it on Oregon okay I'm sorry it would have to be at SEC school it wouldn't be Ohio State versus Oregon sorry I apologize for getting that wrong

Ohio State and LSU oh in the Pop-Tart ball yeah oh my God Northern Dave still just skate on by not play anybody just get their ranking from everybody else

no no they would have to play Syracuse. They would be in the Notre Dame Bowl. They'd be in the Notre Dame Bowl. Notre Dame people would be like, yeah, we can pay for something to be named after us? Yeah, we'll do that.

The Notre Dame Bowl, we'll take on... Old Dominion. Bring them in. All right. That is not the reality of what their schedules. Good run game. Yeah, exactly. A quarterback went for 200 last year in the last game. All right, let's get to a break.

We are the worst. We know. We apologize. But some of this shit I'm so confused by. I turned on Washington, Boise State, the other night after the Heysman, they were playing a bowl game? Yeah, the L.A. Ball? Banger. Wait, there's college football? This weekend?

All right. That was the L.A. Bowl. Oh. Yeah, I watched it. It wasn't the only game. There's a lot of games. The first ever Xbox Bowl is tomorrow night. Okay. Now I will dial it up for that. They gave them all Xbox. He's pretty cool. I think that is pretty cool that Xbox decided now to be in the bowl game.

Wasn't it a PlayStation Fiesta Bowl? Yeah, Sony. Yeah, Sony. That's what we played. Bowl gifts were the best. I got to admit. Bull gifts when we were in college was the best. The kids realizing they all got Xbox's was actually awesome.

I want to watch because of that. Xbox Bowl is Missouri State versus Arkansas State. You know, the Red Wolves how. You're favored by one and a half. They're all getting Xboxes. But you go to Myrtle Beach, you're actually getting an opportunity to go down to send your frogs and have a team meet. And that is worth way more than an Xbox. If you've lived it, you know it.

Shout out to Sen. Your Frogs. 11 a.m. kick. Yeah. In Myrtle Beach? Yeah. That's going to be tough to get to. That's going to be tough. Myrtle Beach is a good time place.

That's what that is. That senior frogs was awesome. Man, are we sure we don't want to do? We did. We did a time. Should we do the simulcast on Friday? From Senior Frogs? At 11 instead.

I'll tell you, that place was awesome. I've never been to a more hospitable place. A better time for a short period of time. time. Okay, I was there for like three days for one of my college friends was having his bachelor party down there. Okay, we go down there and we just do Myrtle Beach. We have an Airbnb on the beach, which is obviously awesome. It's Myrtle Beach show. It's spectacular. It is a hilarious scene. And then boom, we went down to that little area of bars. I don't know. It's their version of the south side. It's a good little hangout town. There's live music. It's good. It's pretty good. A lot of golfing down there as well. And we ended up at senior frogs every night just the whole time.

And I was obviously, I was having a good time. I had a lot of money. too much money should not have had the money that I had. I'm just buying shots for literally everybody in that place. From the first moment I get there till the last moment we leave. I was calling team meetings. Team meeting, team meeting, everybody. And it kind of got on. We go back two years

later, I think, for AQ's. Same exact setup. House on the beach. Awesome. Spectacular. We go to Sanrio Frogs. I walk in there. Manager guy who's still there. Eyes light up. And he goes, team meeting. And I'm like, yes, actually. And we do another

damage. I'm talking three days down there. And I think I did it one more time, too, with somebody else. And it was like, team meeting. It's like, yes, we're doing it. Did you get poached from a Senora frogs when you're on a cruise, and you went to a party after? Yeah, and I missed the boat. I had to catch the boat at the next one.

Yeah, Senor Frogs gets me, dude. Senator Frogs, everybody knows what's going on there. Senator Frog's always a good time. Great place. Great place. Team meeting was real, though. Oh, yeah. We had a time. There could have been a little bit of an altercation at a place, too. and because of our relationship with Senor Frogs, the people that, I would say, lost the physical battle as well.

Also, we're told that they can never come back for the rest of the weekend, golfing, doing whatever they're not going on. So it's literally like a new group every single weekend. So I would like to let the senior frogs people. There might still be there. I have no idea. Same crew might still be running that place.

Just know, you guys do a great job. And we have, I'll say this for AQ and I, and I can say this amongst the others. We have gotten drunk in a lot of places around this world. and the Myrtle Beach one. As good as they come. One of the greatest, one of the greatest in the history. I mean, we had a blast down there.

Myrtle Beach Bowl, that's what we're talking about, though. A High State LSU. Myrtle Beach Bowl. At Myrtle. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I don't think so. You don't think so, Nate? They're back?

Is this this year? I know Marty McGee, a big part of their deal is they go down the boardwalk. You know, they get the airbrushed t-shirts. They do the saltwater taffy, and then they call the game. game, so I'm hoping it's again this year. I don't like that there's nobody in the crowd. Okay, need to change that around. 11 a.m.

They're watching a game from them. Go get there. Yep. They got a good senior frogs there. Good little deck on the back on the outside, too. See? That might be it right there. There they are.

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That's A.J. Hawk. I like that. Toxitables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, host of Everything DB, good D, bad D, which we will see in a matter of moments. In 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion AQ. Shipley is your A-Q. It's Wednesday, which means it's time to learn which offensive lines were good, which offensive lines were bad. Let's go to the top five performing offensive lines a week.

15 in the trenches of AQ Shipley. Who's the number five performing offensive line? The Rams, congratulations to the number one team in the NFC. I love this group right now, and I love the two-headed monster they have with Kyron Williams and Blake Korn, but their offensive line has been fantastic. Great in pass, pro, great in the run game. Simple outside zone play here to the right. I love this pool around by the center.

You cut the defense, you get that, and then all of a sudden, there goes Kyron Williams. 70-plus yards for him, 70-plus yards for Blake Korm, each of the the last couple weeks. So I think what the Rams wanted to do initially is just punch the lions in the mouth, okay? And they walked right down and right through this Detroit Lions team. But it's not just the Lions they were able to do it. This seems like they do it to a lot of teams.

McVeigh's team, Stafford, MVP favorite. They are not scared to pound the rock, though. No, and he does a great job. I think he takes a look at what the defense is doing on the first drive of the game. Like last week against the Cardinals, they come out and they go dying because they think the Rams are just going to throw the ball all over the yard. They come out and dime, he just starts pounding the rock, and they just, boom, 10 yards, 10 yards, boom, break one, and then all of a sudden you get a touchdown.

And then against the Lions. Do the same thing. Basically do the same thing. Wow, Foxy, it's tough times. This year you're on the receiving end of that. Matthew Stafford always going to have a little bit of spite towards the Detroit Lions with how that all went down. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Everyone's talking about Stafford, Puka, Devante in that game.

The run game impressed me more than anything. The Lions all year long have been really good against the run, except for in that game right there, which proves how good the Rams really are. The Lions, too, are just like the Chargers. Like, they're always snake bit by injury. It feels like that. It's too much to overcome against, you know, the teams like the Rams who are at the top of the league.

Who's the number four, performing offensive line from Week 15? The Philadelphia Eagles are back in the mix. Wow. Way to go. Everything's up into the right, 31 Zip. Yeah, big shout out to Fred Johnson. He's been filling in for Lane Johnson, very admirably. But here's why I wanted to put this play on. Could have shown a bunch of other runs, but this is why.

their empty run package has been one of the best over the years. If you remember back to when Jason Kelsey was there, they would do the draw. They would do all the different things out of empty. They got back to it a little bit this week. Jalen Hertz hasn't run it very much, but here you go. You get the empty package, you get the draw, get him out in space. This is what they need to do moving forward towards the playoffs. Third and 12 here, so obviously the Raiders want to drop everybody.

That's why they don't have a massive hole in the defensive line right in front of where the quarterback is. They were looking for an obvious pass situation. 100% they think it's passed but again this is what they can do and this is what jalen hertz can do but also if you guys haven't noticed the raiders have been on the receiving end of this almost every week all season so bad yeah not good so bad i thought because tom brazier just got to give peace of time to get his guys in there well he's running out he fired him all yeah oh yeah that's a good point new guys though his second patch is always his best patch yeah i guess you're right yeah he's gone we assume yeah

So what are they? Well, I mean, there's a guy they might get at the top of the draft that might turn that whole entire place around. Mendoza is so good at football. He's got power. I mean, we talked about Mahomes and Kelsey. All the Raiders need is a quarterback for that Brock Bowers fellow with Gentie. They need five guys up front, period.

Allegedly the rookie they just put in is really, really good. And the O-line coach had been holding them back the whole entire year. And I don't even want to go into the long-round pick. Yeah, he's done a good job. job, and Colton Miller's their best offensive lineman. He's been out for injuries, so maybe not five, maybe three. Chicago did that one off season. Go get three, just like Chicago.

Patriots did as well. Tom Brady obviously is around there, so we assume sound decisions will be made, but they've struck out on everything they did this year. I mean, that is a clean sweep, you know. It's just like with the Jets, everybody's like, they got a lot of opportunity to make the right decision and kind of fix this entire thing next year. It's like, they already picked Justin Fields, didn't they? That didn't work?

The owner came out and was like, if we don't even will I have a quarterback on a football field so I mean that whole thing so we assume they'll get it right we assume Tom Brady will get it right AJ is that what we assume? Yeah we all we assume I guess the question is how long does it take I don't know how's

no not getting into it what's that gotta get your franchise quarterback first but yeah you definitely should you know finish your thought how's what? Nope looks like it was gonna be a good question it was gonna be very good well I was just gonna say like I assume Tom Brady gets it right

because that's like just like what Tom Brady does. I'm not assuming that anymore. TB12 went big, right? Yeah. Big into the... Into the noble brand, right? I mean, there's no guarantee. I guess there's no guarantee me. Michael Jordan was the owner of a basketball squad.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's not playing. He's not coaching. Shit, he's not... I mean, how often is he actually there? What we heard, he was pretty... In the off season. And then the season started, he's got his job with Fox. So it's like, how much is he... I mean, I assume, you know, he owns a piece of the team, so he's probably involved to some degree,

but, like, he has a full-time job with Fox. We assume Tom Brady will figure it out. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Whoa, it was a quiet room right there. You didn't say anything. You didn't say.

I want to. I do, too. To a Todd's point, he's not there. If you told me Tom was going to be there every day, 100%, 100% he'd figure it out. But doing this and being a part owner and maybe being there more in the off-season, I don't see it. Yes, man, had his hands inside of your thighs.

Thank you, Shipley. But he's not there during the season. Not there during the season. And you've got to fix the offensive line. They fix the offensive line, they'll be all right. And you get Fernando Mendoza. Maybe he starts who's calling the plays, though. Well, that's, I think that's the biggest thing for me.

Like, I think he screwed up hiring Pete Carroll. And Chip. That was the big, and Chip, yeah. Like, that was the staff itself. Like, I think if he gets. And this guy. what's that the offensive line comes

oh jesus I knew you were taking that's Pete's son yeah okay yeah come on Chris again I didn't see him oh there he is there is right there

what's that what is that he's undertaker that's what he was doing the whole interview you haven't seen this video no no idea what you're talking about

yes everybody's seen it everybody I have not seen it we talked about it weeks ago no it feels like you might have had good conversations about this

I think I watched it with Connor. I don't really watch stuff. The guy, I'm watching the video down on the small screen. Maybe we did see this a long time ago. It's when he was blinking, but he wasn't really there. You know, everybody operates differently on camera. It looks like Dwight Shrewd's brother. Yeah, whatever the case, you're saying whole new O line is needed.

Yeah, a whole new offensive staff, I think, is where we're heading. And then obviously they get rid of McMahon as well as special teams, whole new operation. They haven't fired their defensive coordinator yet, even though the defense fucking sucks, too. but 31 zip right there and always ended up on the receiving end of the best offensive lines in the league they'll figure it out the Max Crosby's here and Brock Bowers

Gentie. You got a lot you got Gentie as well They can turn that around I think That's a special place, could be a special place We're saying a lot of things Defense, offense staff Special 3-4 new O-lineman franchise quarterback I mean That's one good offseason

Tom Brady Yeah he could do it Tom Brady could do it if he's more hands-on Conman said he believes I believe in Tom Brady as well. All right, let's go to the number three performing offensive line out of week 15. Houston, Texas, I thought they were just a good defense.

They're starting to get better. They're starting to get better on the offensive line. Big Trent Brown playing well. He's about 400 pounds out there. Big number 77 right there at the right tackle. Hell yeah. This old school duo, best playing football. Watch this hole open up right between center and guard.

Look at that thing. Woody Marks. This guy's unbelievable before he got hurt. Scored an unbelievable touchdown on a fake. What do you want to call? It's a snap, but what's the snap, but pretty awesome. But this is the best play in football. All the teams that are going to play in the playoffs are good at this particular play

because you get double teams and it's a physical football player. Yeah, and you've got to be able to just move men. You've got to be able to move men. This is a powerful football play. This is showcasing what you are, I guess. And we talk about the Raiders always being on this. It feels like the Cardinals also are because AQ sees it live and in person. He goes, wow, this team actually pretty good.

whenever I'm watching them play against his Cardinals team. Is that potentially the case? Is it the Cardinals? Because I saw Clays Campbell block a kick, and then I obviously saw them lose by 20 again. But is it the D-line? Or the Houston Texans' offensive line is for real against whoever they're playing. Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both.

I think the Cardinals have really gone downhill in defense the last couple of weeks. So they've been on here, obviously, on the receiving end the last couple of weeks. But I think this Houston Texans team up front has gotten better. They've got the run game going. They like Woody Marks. They release Damien Pierce, who I used to. really like us a running back because they like Woody Marks, the rookie running back.

And then obviously, C.J. Stroud's been really good. They're starting to get rolling right at the right time. That was from the soul right there. Congratulations on being voted the number two local booth in the entire NFL. Thank you. Thank you.

It was about 35 different commentary teams that were scored because some teams have a rotating crew that called the local radio version of NFL games. Really the backbone, I think, of the NFL is the local crew because back in the day, that was the only way you could really follow your team. They were the voice of the team. They told the story of the team in which your town had. Myron Cope, obviously, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is a huge piece of the Pittsburgh Steelers story, but it's also a huge piece of our lives whenever we were growing up and how he decided

to call a game. And what he decided to point out was what everybody knew. you stepping in and doing it in one year and it doesn't matter who's doing the voting and whether or not we have any respect for them as a group but the fact that there is voting and you end up being second as opposed to anywhere else you should be incredibly proud of especially for your first year thank you thank you congratulations you're not ass try not to be i guess there's some real ass teams out sounds like from the readup i guess there's some really terrible stuff i guess we only hear it in the preseason remember that's a showcase preseason is when we're going to find out about you

because the local teams do a lot of the games so whenever we're watching preseason games we hear the local crew and boy some of them are fucking terrible but we're going to have a gift whenever you're on our team well it's also the hardest time to call games because there's 90 guys on the roster so you're trying to learn all these names

of guys who probably aren't going to be there it's a little tougher ever been higher little tougher in the preseason that's big too NFL like got to know the names you got to know where they're doing you got to know what's sitting there like you got to know

Yeah, you've got to know it inside. Especially if you're the local guy. Like, hey, we are coming to you. You are the one that is supposed to know. So we would like you to know. We're proud of you. We're happy for you. And we're happy or not ass out there.

Thank you. No problem. Speaking of not ass, who's the number two offensive line coming out of week 15? Yeah, these next two certainly aren't. Number two, the Chicago Bears. Wow. Yeah, I really like this group. Obviously, Caleb Williams played fantastic in this game,

but the run game is continuing to impress. It starts up front with a Ben Johnson team. Let's watch this outside zone here to the right. We're going to send 81 in motion. He serves as the fullback. Let's run that back one more time. Look at Big Darnell right. He's going to work with Colston Loveland on the combo.

He's got a peek inside because that's his backer. Yeah, just get a little shoulder on him. Open that big hole. Swift does the rest. See ya. Keep it moving to get in the end zone. Miles Garrett had seven sacks, but I understand that the Chicago Bears offense the line is getting better.

They invested in it in the offseason. And it's a necessity right for this offense that Ben Johnson runs. Yeah, they've been fantastic. I think Joe Tooney's having as good a year as he's ever had, and he's one of the best to ever do it. I think obviously what they've done in bringing in three new guys in the middle, and then what Darno Wright has turned into, in my opinion, he's the best right to tackle in football right now. Ben Johnson's offensive calling and play design help offense alignment, or how do you think he gets three new people to buy in so quickly in jail together? It's very similar to what Shanahan McVeigh do.

They do such a good job. It's all this right there. You get people to bump. You create new leverage. You get people to bump out of the box, and then you create leverage. where everybody's working back. So everything that he does with the window dressing, with the shifts, with the motions,

it helps the boys up front. And then you're always working back to a guy instead of working out leveraged to the front side guy. So maybe the Raiders try to find somebody like Ben Johnson's offense, but is there anybody like Ben Johnson? I mean, Shanahan and McVey are as good as they come, but they're completely different than what Ben Johnson's doing. He's creative, but he also does a fantastic job of setting things up.

It's very similar to McVeigh. And Shanahan does the same thing. So those three are pretty different style offenses. Different style offenses, but they all do a great job. If you watch just the film, I mean, you know this. It's different than watching the TV copy, because now you can get a feel for how they sequence their plays. And if you watch it, it's like, oh, okay, play four, they did this. Play nine, they did this, but that's off of Play 4.

Then you see Play 16, and it was something off of Play 4, a little different than nine, got to a different formation, but all of a sudden, on Play 15, they got to what they wanted to get to. So that's a little Kikli earlier saying, whenever somebody does something, you have to start thinking, like, wait, why did they show us that? They're looking to do something else. These guys do this actively and every single week. Absolutely. And I think, I've heard a great quote from Shannon one time where it said that he's watching

the linebackers and all he's doing is watching the linebackers on all of the runs early. And when he sees the linebackers fully commit to the run, that's when the play action pass comes. Yeah, we got to wait until we get him on the hook. Yep. We got to wait until we get him sucked up, AJ. All they're trying to do is Shanahan was just eyeballing you the whole time, seeing if he got you sucked up or not. Yeah, you're smart. I tell you what, though.

You get a few, like, good 8, 10, 12-yard runs early in the game. You're going to suck those linebackers up very quick. Yeah, those long ones get sucked up quick, you know, because you have to respect it. Have to. And you used to stick your nose up in there, too, didn't you? I mean, you had to. I mean, yeah, a good hard run fake will get you sucked up, no question. And you, because you don't want another long one coming down.

You know, you don't want another one of those. You don't want one of those. You throw your head up in there, and you're screwed, man. See you. Oh, I didn't even think about getting screwed in this entire thing. Jeez, Luis. You're right. I guess one thing leads to a number one offensive line in week 15 of the NFL season?

The Buffalo Bills were the number one. Wow, AFC East, Wayne Supreme. Fuck, man. Yeah, the interesting thing was New England was right there until they end up blowing this game because they had a great performance up front as well. But you take a look at this. Remember what we talked about earlier? that duo play. Remember when we watched what the Buffalo Bills did to the Pittsburgh Steelers a couple

weeks ago? It was that duo play. Guess what? When push comes to shove and they need something, give it to Cook on the duo play. Look at the boys open up that whole. Osiris Torrance has been fantastic. Who is that? Backside guard, David Edwards, great job opening that thing up. Spencer Brown. All the boys up front have been fantastic. AJ, how's this stoppable? What happens here? Because it feels like there's pretty good thud, pretty good contact. It's just all, it works out. Go ahead. Safety's got to make a tough tackle in space to get downhill, but yeah, you've got to somehow, you've got to find a way to get, I don't know. I mean, they do a decent job building a wall there for the Patriots, but it's, yeah, look,

safety's got to be down instantly making a play. Foxy, can you pause it right there? Okay, so if you pause it right there, obviously the hole's front side, and he hits it exactly where he's supposed to hit it. It's a front side A gap between center and guard play. But here's the thing. If you run this play over and over and over again, then what happens is see that backside linebacker and the top left of that circle that's,

holding like this on the backside guard? Well, then they start to get a little bit nosy. They play over the top. Remember a couple weeks ago I said the juiciest cut in football? It's that backside A gap, B gap, right there. That's what happens. You get them to bite and get nosy over the top, and then boom, you hit it out the backside.

Yeah, but Debutt, he can't get sucked up there as a safety because then they'll drop one over top of them, right? It's tough down in the corner if he does that, but you got to show up and be that extra guy, fill that alley, as we call it. But, I mean, it's a one-on-one tackle with James Cook in the open field, and James Cook. what do you just get paid $20-something million a year?

Like he's not getting paid that money or not that much, but a bunch of money to break tackles in the open field, so that's what he's going to do. James Cook is a very good play. Unbelievable. Phenomenal. He's an unbelievable football player. They got as good of blocking tight ends as they have in the league, too.

They drafted Jackson Hawes. It's fantastic. Knox has been fantastic. Hawes and Haas in the Haas. Yeah. They're great. Jack, Jack. They've been great.

He's drafted top five performing offensive lines on week 15. Those are really good football teams. All those teams very much alive. All those teams can very much work. win at Lombardi. At this stage, what AQ Shipley's saying is it's going to be the Buffalo Bills. Unless he does what he did last year, which has put the team that has the best offensive line at one and then say, well, actually, it's going to be the fourth best offensive line that's going to win it all. And then we're saying, well, why are we judging

what the offensive lines are saying then if it's not the one and it's going to be the four? And he said, well, it's not just the offensive line. It's like, well, that's kind of the entire point of the whole thing. Yeah. You remember that? I do. Yeah. He put the Eagles at one, but didn't think they were going to win the Super Bowl because you Hey, Jalen Hurts. So you couldn't even take the victory lap on you having the Philadelphia Eagles is the best offense line and winning the Super Bowl because you were contradicting yourself throughout a majority of the season.

It's because I celebrated early when I facetimes you guys last year. Stafford was getting ready to drive for the game winning touchdown. Then he got sacked twice. You guys remember that? You guys were all watching. Yeah, we're in Atlanta. Yeah. I said, here we go.

Watch here it. And then you guys called me back like two minutes later. Like, what the hell happened? Did you do that also for a certain college football game? Yeah, Penn State Indiana game. Yeah, I was trying to really early celebrate. that one. Yeah, you were. And I think I actually said to you, Mendoza is about to

walk down the field. That's exactly what you said. And he actually did. It was awesome to watch. I didn't know if the kid had it in him. I don't know if Mendoza had Lennon. A hundred-some thousand. Okay, still showing up to those games, right? Yeah. The cult very much there. Penn State has fought talent everywhere. That could be very good.

You could say, oh, maybe the front roars. They just hadn't had to lead a lot. So now they're going to put them away. It's like Mendoza stands there. Takes a seven-yard sack. First play. All right. Let's rattle it off. I assume that's exactly what Mendoza said right back in next play and then delivers in crunch time

which would then go on to lead to be the only undefeated team in college football the number one seed in the entire country Heisman winner number one overall pick What a moment And you were fucking trying to think it wasn't going to happen Wow I mean if that dipshit DB

Would he just pushed him out the back of the end He tried What the hell are we doing here? There was a playing in an NFL game this week where I saw it and I facetown my dad my dad's like, probably that Penn State guy would have done that. Yeah, immediately. I was going to think about that. Terry Smith could have a couple more wins.

Yeah, and they might be playing in the Xbox Bowl. Or the Mayo Bowl. Sure. Either of these balls. They're playing in a bowl game. What? Penn State. Penn State's in the Penn Street Bowl. Yeah, Lincoln Stadium. How many wins you guys have? Six and six. Wow, you guys got bowl eligible.

Yeah, Terry Smith brought it back three in a row at the end. Is Matt Campbell coaching that, or who is Terry coaching? Terry's coaching. As you should. Send him out. And he's remaining on staff. Highest paid assistant, college football. that's a non-coordinator. Congratulations, Terry. He earned it, Western Pennsylvania Eleanor.

You got the boys together. What's that? They should opt it out of that one. The pinstrike ball? Yeah. He needs to play in the outfield of Yankee Stadium, dude. Exactly. Babe Ruth.

Exactly. Penn State we're talking about. Yeah, Babe Ruth. Jeez and Mickey Mantle. They played in that stadium? The Pinstripe Bowl heard that Penn State was playing. They heard that they were playing. And they were just thanking to God.

The conversations behind her were like, no way Penn State accepts this, right? no way well clemson too think of that storyline those were two top five preseason teams Penn state's gonna sell out that stadium though yeah no doubt yeah the pinstrike bowl is like yeah thank god tell Penn State it's a good idea tell them it's good idea because their natural instinct is going to be no we're not going to play in this pinstripe bowl so you got to go in there and tell them it's good it's good it's good but really for us this is our only option to sell this fucker out last year we had 15% occupancy in this fucking thing it was the most empty the

Yankee stadium has ever been so if we can somehow get Penn State to think it's a good idea. That would be great for our business. Somebody went in there and was like, one more game for Terry Smith. That's it. They did it. And you guys are going to fill that place up. Yeah, I think nine of our guys have already opted out of the game, though. Yeah, but Penn State people will fill this fucker up.

For sure. Because that is literally, and the amount of Penn State people in New York, I assume. Yeah, that's 80% of our demographic. Oh, good for the Pinstripe Bowl. See, this is what I'm talking about. That's good business. We need whoever's running a pinstripe bowl that was able to talk Penn State into doing this. person needs to be doing more in the conversation of making things happen now you were talking about

who played in that stadium who didn't play in that stadium yeah the great bambino right no none of those guys playing that new yankee stadium is fairly new so uh there really isn't any of the rich history tradition um that i was referring to which is probably why every single year the pinstripe bowl is like all right let's just fucking get ruckers in here there's six and six we got enough people close enough in pascadaway maybe can't come to yankee stadium in the summer They won't come seeing the winners, so that'll work. So I would agree. I'm sure they are absolutely thrilled.

And it was probably the president. Allegedly the president just knows what she's doing up in Penn State. She was probably the one that said, you know what? I know where we should play because I know where everyone will come. New York. Pinstrypt ball. I do wonder if they negotiated a percentage of the ticketing sales. Like, hey, we get a percentage of the ticket sales, though,

because we are going to fill your pinstreet bowl up. So congratulations to you guys. There's a chance that that's happening. Good business up there at Penn State. A lot of good business. Matt Rule. He won it last year. Let's check in with Matt Rule later. We just saw him. He's out of the bomb.

Oh, yeah. Good point. Might be rolling around. Yeah. We got a rap, right? Yeah. On his Jeep. Yeah. Clean. Four-wheeler. Like a side-by-side. Golf car. It's not golf cart.

It's not golf cart. It's definitely not a golf cart. It's a U-TV. Utility. Ultra. Terrain. Vehicle. Not an ATV. Side-by-side. I would call it. Four-wheeler?

No, that's a four-wheel Like a can-by-side Yeah, like a can-am type So we where we come from Quad Yeah Squad Some people call that a four-wheeler though

So I call that a four-wheeler That's what I call it four-wheeler Okay, so you guys call that a four-wheeler We call it quad Side-by-side is the two-seater With the trailer in the back And it's got the top bed What do you call the

I call it a four-wheeler The one that's like a little outdoor car There's two seats in the back two in the front. It's like a little buggy looking thing, but it's awesome. What are you called? Is that like a can-am, like a can-am type dune buggy situation you're thinking? Yeah, like a souped up. It wouldn't not, this is a golf cart on my eyes, but like, let me see. I was used to call it a gator because that was like the John, you brand of it. So the gator, for me, the gator is the truck, the back thing. Can you pull up a, you're saying

doesn't have a bed behind it at all. Yes. Yeah, I'm saying the seats are in that instead. So it's a This, yeah, I would call this one for rule of side-by-side person because it's a two-seater with a truck bed in the back, basically, is what this one is. Once they get to it, once they get to it. Oh, my God. No, yeah, you got a ways to go here. Yeah, this is an awesome all-terrain vehicle in my eyes. Is it an incredible usage around if you have any property? Okay, so that's the one, that's side-by-side.

I call that one a side-by-side as well. four-wheeler is the one that I the little car it's like a forget it you know what I'm talking about yeah yeah yeah yeah see I thought like a Polaris razor is like a razor like a razor yes like one of those yeah that's what you're

calling like the little mini car thing yeah I agree but they call these four-wilers which are quads yeah I love quads me too I love quads I'm a big quad guy we say all the same stuff because it's Pittsburgh we were talking about that yeah but we learned we're wrong I think everybody else actually I think they're

everybody else That's right. Vernacular. Have you heard about Kennywood's upgrade? Did you see what I posted? I mean that roller coaster is not Kennywood, first of all. That thing's unbelievable. Yeah, they put it in a dome like they did down there in Disney World.

That's at Kennywood? They're building it right now. That's two-seater razor. Yeah, this would be a two-seater razor razor. I would call this four-wheeler as well, but there's four-seaters of these. That's more of like a Dune Buggy sport type thing. Matt Rules thing is not exactly a work thing. I have a side-by-side with a snow plow that I recently got,

and I've been dominating the snow recently in the last. We've had two different snows where I've plowed four or five different driveways. Do you got to put sandbags in the back of that thing, though, to give you a little bit more weight on the wheels there to keep that thing? I probably should, I probably should, but it's actually, it's enough heavy duty right now that I haven't had to put anything in the back. These bad boys right there, these things, wide ass open, good times. Those are fast. These are dangerous. Me and Nick almost died one of these in the woods of Indiana.

Almost died. Almost flipped that thing pretty quickly. You got it, though. Saved it. Beer saved. should be doing it by the way should not be doing any of the things that we were doing zero seat belts flying

through woods wide open we're turning to the left around a tree okay got it no problem bit in this thing maybe we even do a little fish tail on this thing maybe a little bit of drift very comfortable with car very comfortable with this thing had been driving it a pretty good amount

and I think we were I'd say pretty tuned up at the time had a couple pops so pretty comfortable and confident basically anything at time which is part of the problem I'm not saying others should do this ever he shouldn't we go around there and then we catch a groove and that thing goes up on two wheels oh no we we work that thing back okay now we're going back the other way now we're up on two wheels the other way now i put leg out okay i'm gonna save life force i'm gonna save us i'm gonna save us in this thing

pretty much the only thing we couldn't afford to lose in that moment was legs legs out in this thing because it gets up on this wheel cut it back we get back on to all four wheels and we stop stop and there's a we look at each other pretty big whole boy no seatbelts either of us they certainly have full rigs that you're supposed to have on and uh there was crew of uh great hill jacks i'll say great so great out great people indiana boys yeah indiana boys they were indiana boys we were with out there and they just looked at it like wow you know one of those and then it was an immediate beer we're right back into it and then we're supposed to just keep going as if that didn't happen.

And we did, I would say. We had to power along to showcase for Western Pennsylvania. But those things are awesome. Those are the coolest things in the woods if you can get those. Because it does feel as if you're untouchable in those. But you're not.

No, that you can die closely. Some of them have the full cage. We're like, you can roll and just boom, boom. Oh, yeah. It's had full cage. Oh, nice. We had no seatbelt on. Yeah, yeah.

So that almost makes it worse because now you're, now you're... Bounce around the cage. Frank of your neck. Now you're in the entire. it was bad idea we immediately this one right here immediately yep i think we need to and i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna stop doing that set the beer down real quick let's go ahead and uh let's get through this the rest of the day i was quite a buzzkill going forward i like the way the

outdoors people live though like those quads it's like 70 80 90 miles of the best it's like holy fuck then he gets some of these uh ingenuative um outdoors, I don't know what's calm, obviously break off the governor. We're not going to do that. But then the way they're able to soup these things up to go speeds that there's no way the body of these, the frame of these things are supposed to go. The center of gravity is nowhere near low enough for the car to be or whatever to be going that fast.

And then the sound of it is just, wha, wide ass open. It's like, you guys have a good time out here. Jesus fucking Christ. Supping it up is actually a big part of the hobby to them, I think. They like doing that more than riding it almost. Yeah, then cleaning it afterwards and then fixing it afterwards. It's a whole part of the process. It's a wind down.

There's some music. It's a whole thing, yeah. We need to start doing that. We should do that. We live in Indiana. We can do that. We need to do that for Bluey. Anyways, that's the only way

we're going to be able to get that fucker tired. We're going to have to be on quads running him and circle. We're going to have to tag in and out just doing laps around this place. You think you'll be able to take care of Blue maybe one of you come out here at AQ? Sure. Are you a dog person? I was a dog person. Now you grew up.

Full cat. Two cats. It's great. Dan Arlofski said he hates cats. He did say that. That makes sense. I mean, cats are the coolest thing on earth. You can't say you hate cats, if you've never had cats.

Coolest on earth? Would you agree? I like cats. It's going to sneaky. I'm not going to get into... Coolest on earth is a little much. I'm going to say that you... We got to tell Orlovsky that you just said that he...

Nah, please. I mean, they're... Fatically saying he's going to beat your fucking ass. They're 0.06% DNA away from a lion. I mean, what are we talking about here, people? Yeah, I agree. Hey, living room lying, bro. It's a real deal.

0.06. You're a big stats guy now. I watched exactly what he just said, lying in my living room documentary on Netflix a couple years ago. And showcases how they can land on their feet all the time and how athletic they are and how agile are. Arlovsky doesn't want to hear it. He's done with your shit.

All right, to wrap up this glorious Wednesday by learning about the defensive side of the ball. It's always such a magical thing to be able to hear what's good and what's bad in good D, bad D, presented by everything DB in Darius Butler. We'll start in Chicago, and they've been on here a ton leading the NFL and interceptions. CJ, G.J. has had some good games. He had a rough game against the Packers, but he's had some good games outside of that. This is great disguise against the rookie Shador Sanders. If you start running back from the beginning, Foxy, starting on the line of scrimmage, showing middle clothes, and going to get to a cover three, three deep, four underneath.

He is the flat defender. And when you start up on the line of scrimmage with this disguise, it is very important that you get with just, as much you get your death because that width actually becomes your depth. So you'll see him as he gets wider. He continues to climb against a fanning junior tight-in here. Climes, fools the quarterback, jumps up, high points the ball. Great job by CJ DJ. Veteran play fooling the rookie quarterback. I love the fact that the Chicago Bears are being celebrated on in the trenches

and everything DB every week. If you want to win, these are two points. places you would like to be showcased at. And Ben Johnson, once again, has been able to establish this as just a normal thing for this Bears team when this has not been normal for what the course of their entire existence.

Long time. I mean, we saw them in the Super Bowl was at 06, and kind of since then they haven't been a great team. But when they were in the Super Bowl, they had a great defense. So you got a defense that's feasting on turnovers and their best linebackers getting healthy, so he'll be activated soon with Edmonds. But their D.Bs have been great

buyer. We see them on here a bunch. Right. Jalen Johnson, he had an interception as well. He's finding his form. So, yeah, they're hitting on all the cylinders. And if you're in Chicago, if you're in this division, you want to be able to run the football, obviously, and you want to be able to take the football away. That's always a great recipe for success.

Stealing possessions is good news. The weather's going to get bad. How can you do? Wait a minute. Let's see another good D it looks like from everything DB. Hell yeah. This is what you kind of visualized, I believe, last Friday with the reigning defensive player the year,

Patrick Sertan. Right here is quarter's coverage. Now, we're some opportunities for the Rams. to be on here, but they gave up a couple touchdowns against the lines, both in quarters coverage, both with a post. And the reason you see that route against quarters coverage, you'll see right here with the leverage. We talk about leverage a lot.

Patrick Surtain is going to be outside leverage against the post. Pause it here. So quarters coverage, the safety, he's reading number two. So you run it back to the beginning. His number two blocks. And when you're tight-in blocks, that kind of sits you down. You become a part of the run fit, right? Because if they do run this ball, he has a gap.

He's kind of that half man in the box. When they don't run, when it's the play action, now as that safety, is your responsibility to be underneath that number one receiver. You should take away the curl. You should be underneath the curl route, underneath the dig route, and then it'll be underneath the post route as well.

So the corner, you're going to be outside and over the top, and then in a perfect world, you'll be able to undercut and make this play. Christian Watson, obviously, a blazer one of the fastest receivers in the league. If you let it run here, you've got to have confidence, you've got to have speed. So I'm just put the head down, then get back, track the ball, and go up and make a phenomenal play on the football.

This Denver Broncos teams, everything on the defensive side that we thought they'd be. And how come Vance doesn't really get talked about for head coaching much? I think you will. I think people have been around ball since that 70-point game. He gave up against the Dolphins. This defense has been, obviously, with the sack numbers, they've been on a record pace. And then they got guys on the back end that can cover. Hufango was a great signing coming over.

But Sertan, obviously, his season has been kind of shortened with the injury. He set out some games. Molly Moss, he got an interception on the tip ball on the crossing route, but he's a very good cover man as well. And then the guys up front, they mix it up and they'll get after you, you know, all game blown. So there'll be a tough team to beat with Bo Nix playing how he's playing. Very similar to what Caleb Woods.

Caleb probably had his best out of the year as far as throwing the football. If they can find their foot, Bo had his best out here on the offense as well. So they're clicking on the right cylinders at the right time. There's a chance, too. Like, Vance might fall into that Josh McDaniels bucket where it's like, hey, I've done. the head coach thing. Like I got the best defense in the NFL and Sean Payton certain. Yeah, you got

the Waltons who can pay me as much as Sean Payton says or I want like the Broncos and Patriots both might have their offense and defensive guys kind of set for the forward and young quarterbacks. Like, hold on. Yeah, hold on Broncos, hold on Patriots. Congrats on Broncos. Defense getting showcased yet again.

Oh, is this good? Another team who's been on here a ton. The Los Angeles Chargers. Now, typically they play a ton of zone coverage. I believe still in the top of the National Football League when it comes to zone coverage. Derwin James, this is Gardner Minshew now and at this point.

Had to try to live and get him down. Almost pro bowler. Almost got us to the playoffs. And got thrown, obviously, in the end at the end of the game, want to get in the position for a field goal and tie this thing, maybe getting OTI or maybe try to go down and win it. So you got Travis Kelsey matched up on Derwin James. They've seen a ton of each other year and a year out,

been in that division. Just a great job of maintaining his outside leverage from the beginning. You'll see it better from the other angle. Kelsey tries to give him a head, fake to the inside, doesn't fall forward, keeps his leverage, looks back, makes a play on the ball to end this game. So big time play by a big time player. And they are playing very, very good defense. The only, I guess, weakness on their team would be the offensive line. Their defense is good enough to win the championship, I believe. And you talk about Vince Joseph, Jesse Mentor will probably be in head coaching conversations as well. And then it's going to be,

Okay, how healthy can Herbert be down the stretch and how upright can that O-line keep him? But the defenses are making plays big time week in and week out. Incredible coverage here by Darrell. Great coverage. Gardner Minchin, we're already in field goal range kind of with Bucker. Now, granted, is he going to make it or not make it this year has become a question. He has a very strong leg. 20 seconds left, down three.

Have a chance to be on the field and throw a ball. Travis Kelsey, I'm going to do that. He did it earlier in the drive, too. I think him and Kelsey had a great connection. Gardner Mincher is not scared of anything. feels like this not necessarily ever going to be a completion because Derwin James is so damn good. But remember Travis runs Travis Kelsey routes, 43 sitting in there.

They weren't going to let Travis get another rocket. No, no. And this is man in coverage. I believe they had a couple like hold defenders in there. But man and man coverage, outside leverage. And this is, this is perfect. Like this is how you draw it up. You do drills like this.

Hey, keep you outside leverage. If he runs the corner route, you make them pay and he did. All right. Let's go to another good deal with Darius J. Butler. It's the last one. The best defense in the league right now, and he is, I mean, probably a top five corner now. We all talk about Stingley on the other side, who's, you know, one or two in that conversation. Bullock, he's been the best free safety this year.

Petrie, we had him on maybe last week against the Chiefs when he had the big hits in the interception. Camarie Laster, second year out of Houston, I believe, hard hitter, he'll show up in the run game, he'll blitz, he'll tackle. And he'll also cover, had interception against the Chiefs last week, and it's another interception in the high red zone post route once again maintaining his leverage and they're making a great play on the football and a phenomenal celebration as well all right and y'all got oh yeah pretty good oh spider man yeah it was some question marks

about him a couple weeks ago I think before the chief's game had a toe injury that he had been kind of battling and remember the comments that he may I love hearing demico ryan's talk about him and his mindset but he was asked the question hey who would you send first off the bus from that defense And he was like me, you know, I'm with all, I'm with all the bullshit, and he absolutely is down in the downout. I mean, that's an incredible catch. If a wide receiver makes this catch, not being able to see the ball with hands touching it.

I mean, we would say that's an incredible catch. And the casuals may not know who that receiver is, Michael Wilson, but since he's unbelievable. He's unreal. His numbers, his targets, since Marvin Harrison Jr. has been out, he's kind of become a guy, but that's a great job. Reading your keys, keeping your leverage, and then making a great play on the football. That was his fourth interception on the game. year. Great backflip too. Great blackflip. Any time.

Where to stick you to it. I think you're allowed to say that. I'm not the, the, the, anytime you do it full pads and be that clean with it, that means not only is it been done thousands of times in the past, but in the moment didn't get too excited. Okay. Perfect balance. I mean, it's like shooting a three. You gotta have the right amount of explosion in turn. Just casual in the moment all the way into the Spider-Man me. I mean, this is phenomenal celebration. Absolutely. You could probably say it better from the wide copy. if you fast forward to the end, but I also like the awareness of him, because

once again, dealing with the injury, but peeking back real quick, because he spun it, boom, got the spun. He peek back, makes sure not a cameraman, cheerleader, boom, stick that thing. Great camera. I mean, that's perfect timing there. 10 out of 10. It's going to be some sick pitchers somewhere online. Well, congrats to him. It seems like

there's going to be more of that coming out of the Houston, Texans defense. They are so good. We're talking about that maybe winning the Super Bowl, because that defense? Best unit ball. Oh, really? Best, in my opinion, just If you got to take a unit, best unit in football. With Devante not in? If Devonte is in, are you taking Los Angeles Rams offense or?

I'll still go to Texas defense. They also might win the division still. There's a very big chance. They have the tiebreaker with the Jags. The Jags are at Denver and the Texans are hosting the Raiders. So maybe the Texans win. The Jags Broncos will be a war, but they have the tiebreaker. in the closing three for the Texans

relatively easy aside from at Indy the last week but there's a chance they end up being the 3 seed maybe even 2C. And if you get that you get a home playoff game obviously and everything else that comes alongside of that it may be even another home game depending upon what happens below them and if they're

able to get that building going with that defense going we've been there. Yes we have with CJ going I think we've seen that it's like nobody really wants them and that's what everybody has said. Luke Kinkley said nobody really is signing up to take on the Houston Texans right now

because to win games that involve points you have to be able to score them and the Houston Texans defense poses quite a problem when it comes to getting into ends up. They are everywhere all the time and he's talking about Lasseter as like the third guy that you showcase

on everything DB. Every other guy that's been on there is because they hit. Everybody hits. Everybody hits. They're all tough. Like all of them are hitters. All of them want to punish you. And it's like that's Damico Ryan's

to a T. Like when Al Shahir. Jayir gets in that fight on the sideline and then he gets suspended. D'emiko Ryan's head coach and defensive guy comes out and he's like, we've got to watch what's going on in that sideline too. Like our guys, like you want to hit us and we're going to hit you. Like he was open

with the fact like this is who we are. That's a scary fucking team to have to play, especially in the playoffs I think, AJ. Yeah, I think it's contagious too. Like when you have a physical team like that and you talk about running to the ball. Great things happen when you run to the ball. like they just feel like they're playing with supreme confidence whoever is in there

I don't know like you have to uphold the standard I feel like and that demico and the rest of that team is set and yeah like we said it's it may not be fun to watch your team play the Texans but if you are a fan of defense and a fan of physicality this defense is who you want to watch yeah they're finishing every hit too like it's like uh yeah we're through the ground they're finishing through the they're trying to take you through the ground yeah and you know yeah when there's a quarterback obviously we'll be trying to catch ourselves but see also we'll be there Yeah, we will certainly be there every single time. Like, I don't think people fully understand.

That's an entire mindset. Like, hey, this is who we are as a team. And nobody's allowed out of it. Like, corners. Nah, you are, we are. This is who we are. Like, this is what our defense is known for. When people turn on tape, I bet you, D'Amico,

when people turn on tape and they watch our defense, all 11 guys have to showcase exactly who the fuck we are. That is what is. And you talk about a standard them already having. It's like next year, whenever somebody joins that defense or if they sign somebody, it's understood. Like, hey, this is what we. are. That's a great thing to have. That is a fucking great thing to have on the defensive side in

2025, 2026. You talk about them getting a potential home playoff game too. Look at how we've been talking about Josh Allen the last several weeks and how he's unstoppable. Rewind a couple weeks ago when Buffalo went to Houston. Like, and what they, they sack Josh Allen nine times. We're seeing him laying on the turf kicking his legs down. Like, they, they beat the fuck out of them. And not just them everybody. That's what they do. But I'm saying, like, we're talking about the best player in the NFL who is unstoppable. And just a few weeks ago, we saw them make him look very pedestrian. I can remember those red jerseys.

Yeah. Everywhere. And then Jacksonville Jaguars. They're getting really, really, really, really, really, really, really good, really quickly. Mm-hmm. All of a sudden, the NBC South starting to kill the NFL's best. Yeah. They lose this week.

The Jags are in legit trouble as far as winning the division. well they'll still get in as a wild card yeah the seven teams are basically locked in it's just the divisions the all the divisions are basically all a toss-up you can argue maybe not the broncos but like the aFC east the afc north and the aFC south are all a toss-up right now and the Steelers can lose two straight games and then if they win the last game they still win the division yeah and that's the big thing with new england like if new england wins than they have this weekend against Baltimore that is

massive for Pittsburgh and for New England obviously because they get in but that also gives them a little bit more leeway to win the division this weekend football's great but there's some people that are asked deba let's get to the bad day shall we speaking of people and teams and

defense units that are asked they got the defense coordinator of fire after this game Steve Wilkes Liam Cohen has done a great great job with Trevor Lawrence I know Dan said yesterday the Texan's offense, probably the most improved unit in football. This Jacksonville

Jaguars has been hitting all similar. You'll see E.T.N. He had three touchdowns. This is one of them right here. They're going to get to basically a four by one on the snap. So right now he's starting off on the left. The whole snap, he's going to get to the route and just get the right, and then there'll just be a swing route. And now, AJ knows just how tough

this is on 5, 6. We run it back. Just look at the traffic that 5, 6 has to run through. If you pause it here, he's a linebacker just the left if you're looking from the offensive side of the hash and watch what 56 has to get through to get through and try to cover ETN who's already a speedster so he went underneath and you always have to make a decision as a defender do i go over the top or do i go underneath do i try to go to that back door and usually when you go to that back door you get outran especially

with a speedster that's great for that old line he 77 he just gets a hand on him then does the save it block just puts the ass on him and then etienne takes care of the rest jets get rid of quinn Williams, and we hear what the Dallas Cowboys think about him. Do we think that is potentially the devastation to the Jets' defense the side of the ball? I mean, it was bad with him, too. This is the team. I don't know, maybe one interception on the entire year, I think, which is none. Zero? Zero. Like, that, that's hard to do. That's hard to do through five games, let alone 15 at this point. This is, like, this is, like, all-time bad. You didn't expect this with a defensive, I didn't expect this with a defensive head coach. Don't have a bunch of the

pieces and just got the shit kicked out of them. We talked about Trevor Lawrence earlier in the week having a historic day. This offense has been good, but they look obviously great on Sunday against Jets. Deep. Right there, you got to get on the ground. Big play, you got to get on the ground. I think you got to pull the rip cord. We just saw what, I mean, I'm not saying that there's like a Mike Vrable option out there for the Jets, but like as a defensive guy with how bad they've been and just like everything, like, I don't know. Hey, maybe maybe you own up, say we got this one wrong. We need to go back to the drawing board, and we need to make sure we get it right. And then what, AG's going back to Detroit?

Potentially. Yeah, maybe just swap. Maybe. Shepard gets hired by the Jets. If they don't do it this year, they're signing up for two years because they have four first round picks in the next two years. So if they let them pick the two first round picks this year or, you know, who knows, trade up.

Who's the gym? What are you going to get in there? Darren Mojee. I mean, I'm not there. I'm not there as far as pulling the court just because of the things that we talked about What he sucks. You were a seller. You sent all your best players away.

You get all these picks. You know, that looks like to us, hey, you position yourself, go get a quarterback, build for the future. So you give him an opportunity. Give him a couple years

to try to figure it out this all the time right now. All time bad. And we like, I like Aaron Glenn. Me too. I love it. I like Aaron Glenn.

I'm an Aaron Glenn fan. I like his energy. I like his juice. I like what he did with Detroit. I got a chance to talk to him. I feel like he's a very real human being. I mean, the Aaron Rogers fly over there

and then him kick him out of the, room in three minutes or whatever hilarious move interesting move I don't know if that happens in football a lot in its entirety but trying to set a tone I think on what he's looking for so for it to be this ass I think we're all kind of surprised by

it's the Jets it's been a shit show for for a while now it's been in the offense as a defender and I'm not making any excuse for that defense zero interceptions is crazy but I think Brady Cook started a game he did easy they had you know

Tarot, Tarot Taylor, and Justin Fields. So they've, you know, it's been tough on offense. Can't believe to let go. Alan Lazard. He's out there, maybe end up in Pittsburgh. But, you know, MVS. It's been a tough. It's been a tough year. Feeling. Listen to the Pittsburgh Steelers Avenger. Where's John Kuhn at?

Take the headset off, John. Come on. I don't know if they got helmets in modern day helmets that can fit that thing, but maybe just wear the guardian cap. Jordy's in good shape? No, Jordy's in great shape. But I don't think he. Randall Cobb, though, he might be a guy who's looking.

You can call Jordy. Jordy's the one that needs to run my dog. Because isn't he out there with the... Yeah, cattle and whatnot, ranching. Oh, he's very great shape. Great shape. Oh, yeah. He's tackling him, jumping on him, jumping off him.

Still, softball. National champion. Isn't he something softball like champion? He's a freak athlete. I don't know what his titles are in softball, but he can do everything. I think he's a softball national champion at this stage. He was at some rodeo. We saw him doing some shit at some rodeo.

Yep. He was running the rodeo, I think. He was a boss. Oh, no, we don't need a Jordy highlight tape. I might be on here somewhere. Yeah, well, that's what happens. Milk check, milk check. I'll go on. See ya.

Six. Jordy Nelson. It's a monster. I do enjoy the conversations that happened in DB rooms about Jordy Nelson all around the league. That was cool. That was cool to kind of learn about, hear about just because of how funny it is that that is the actual truth of the situation. Hey, listen, he's this country fuck. Okay.

This guy is super nice. You have no idea what you're looking at when you're standing there. You view them. You think to yourself, we got time here. We don't have time with this one. No, no. When you get eyes on him, you, he's... That's a stallion?

Yeah, he looks like a thoroughbred for sure. You get eyes on. You get eyes on across the field. You're not sleeping on 8-7. Hey, watch the film, okay? We'll see him in real life. Those strides get... Understand what this thing is.

Oh, yeah. Weapon. Why doesn't he go to the Steelers? why not what's uh randall doing right now cop getting ready good question feeling mvs jordy randall lazard

tom crabtree maybe he comes back out Donald driver yeah and bill's in the first round Donald driver would be awesome that would be awesome but he can still play out he's a packer for life I don't know the majority we don't need to see those guys Jordan play for the raiders

the Steelers are the packers of the aFC I know I know, but I think Donald Driver's also like 55. I don't want to get hurt out there. That's a little bit older. Logan, Phil Rivers. 44's the ceiling. No, it's the floor. That's what I meant.

Fuck! Who's the white wide receiver that used to catch all the Hill Marys? Jared Aberdeers? There it is. Jeff Janice? Jeff Janice, that's it. They are literally the same guy with different names. He got the Cardinals.

That's right. Twice. Yeah. Twice. Same game. Yeah. Remember what haven't read after that? Hal Larry?

Yeah, Rodgers threw like a 60-yard touchdown to send it into overtime as time expired and then on like the first play of overtime, Larry Fitzgerald caught a slam and ran like 85-yard. I took it down to the five-yard line that Packers lost, like, play later. Oh, I'm Pat P. Oh, yeah. Two times in a row. Yeah, it was quite a deflating deal.

How many, he is the most Hail Marys, right? Aaron, that's like definitely interesting. I would assume so. Yeah, the Jets won. I think last year that happened in prime time with Lizarre. Five or six of them. broke the record, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I forget what the number is.

And, like, free play touchdown. Which you're trying to take away from his game. I'm not. You suck of wine. You and Bruce Ariens were attacking him. And he gets the hard count free, like those, but the, you know, the pinky toe on the sidelines. Get off the field.

I mean, yeah, hustle. What was Bruce's take? He's anti it? Yeah. He was anti it as a player. So, like, some coaches teach it, like, as a center, if you see them, like, jump across, snap it, and Bruce was never, it was always tell the guard. He's talking about somebody running off the field, though.

Oh, got it, got it. He's talking about this from the other night. There was 45-second advance replay, replay assist that said, actually there was 12 guys on the field. They threw the flag, which Aaron was talking about. And then B.A. and D-Butt the next morning. Well, B.A. first. Still no flag. We knew D-Butt was not about it.

Yeah, in real time, there's still no flag. Aaron's not happy. That fucker didn't get off the field is what he clearly says in the entirety. Advanced replay says, yep, he's actually right. There's 12 on the field because Troy and Joe. thought maybe it was like a hold or something on MVS that he didn't like and then this and then they replay it so yeah it was

we thought BA would be about it though because it was an offensive gift and a quarterback has to be smart enough to see this and also it's a deep shot no risket no biscuit type thing it's actually a biscuit potential with no risket in it and instead he was like it's not the intent of the rule he says it's not the intent

of the rule way on side I mean that's the other thing too Brady huge in doing this that's why I was surprised that was his philosophy too yeah what's that we knew debo would hate it i knew a j would hate it exactly that was the first time i looked at bruce and i was like what the fuck are you talking about bruce this is this is your bad he's been here a long time that's good exactly and that was the first time i looked out i'm like bruce hello hello you're an offensive guy you benefited from this probably come on

man well that's ben rothusberger what his thoughts were you know and his thoughts on that photo Let's got a hammer. Don, Don. What do you think Big Ben's thoughts are on too many men being smarter than defense? And what do you think Big Ben was looking at with Dan Marino when he had that look and Dan had that look? Seven loves catching 12 men on the field and just hucking it deep to, you know, one of any number of wide receivers. So he's definitely for it. But he was also coached by BA.

So, you know, that's weird as well. I don't, I'm with you, Connor. I don't love what BA was doing there. And I still think that Ben was just in awe of how Aaron is just speaking. Bennett. There's a chance. Damarino knew it was over. Literally. Maybe that's what he saw. Tamarino saw Aaron throw it,

and he thought to himself, the Tua era's over. Well, that's it. Maybe he saw Tui yucking it up before the game with Jalen Ramsey. Oh. Ben goes, oh. Guy doesn't care about his team. And Dan goes, this is fucking disgusting.

I'm fucking benching him. After again. After a good. Sound like Stanford Steve, but Pittsburgh accent certainly similar to Ballmore 1, whichever one's there for Steve has. We appreciate you, Tom. Why don't you start heading this way, Tony?

Why don't you start heading this way? D-Butt, final bad D. What? Yeah, we haven't seen the Packers on here. I don't think all year long, and this is a seed from Bo Nix. Talking about some quarterbacks playing their best ball at this point in the season.

Bo Nix is definitely in that conversation. This is a big week, too, for the Broncos. They've been winning a lot of close games, but winning nonetheless. And a lot of people are like, all right, Packers, Broncos, This would be a big test for both teams, both quarterbacks, and he passed the test with flying colors.

It's him with his college teammate, Troy Franklin. This is like a scissors route. So a corner from the number two receiver, and then he'll end up running like a post, and he'll sit right in this window, kind of a cover two-type drop, and he throws it. Dan kind of talked about throwing the ball across the middle.

It's about kind of where you place the ball, the pace you put on the ball, and he puts this kind of back shoulder high away from the defenders. Great ball placement, great accuracy, stepping up in the pocket, big time throwing catch. That's just hitting a hole in the zone, right? I mean, that is exactly.

Exactly. Go to a whole shot, I believe, and that's how you beat zone. And was Bo always able to do this in the NFL, do we know? Well, Sean Payton loved him. You know, when he came on, he spoke very, very glowing about him. It was some questions for a lot of other people. Could Bo develop and be a big-time quarterback? But making plays like this on this level against this defense,

because this ain't a bunch of slapies out there. These are some good defenders. Obviously, Micah has got hurt this game, but big time throw against a very good defense. You got to find a hole in the zone and make the throw. We liked Bo on the show, right? He sounded like Kevin O'Connell. Yeah. That was my takeaway, if I remember, right?

Everything was right. He was super competitive. Love the quarterback position, everything like that. He won. And that's why Sean Payton, as soon as he met him, was like, this is the guy. And I like quarterbacks that when the moments get bigger, like they show it the best. And that's who he's been all year. Whether it was a team you were supposed to blow out or a team you're supposed to lose to.

Fourth quarter comes, 10 is playing. his best ball. So I love that from a quarterback. Young or old, but he's, you know, kind of a young, old guy, almost in the NFL, the second year's starting, but he's an older fella, and he's playing his best ball. Shock. He talks about old he was.

You look out. He's the Saints care right now? Look out for shock. Dan O's right. He was on Gooddy through that pick to Russell Douglas, and we're like, damn, if you two picks, he had to pick two to Minka, and Dan I think tweeted that day, like,

I love his film, he's confident, he's this, he's that. And I think he's ran off a couple wins. Well, and the Saints celebrated when they draft him in third round as if he was going to be their starter. Remember that? And everybody was like, well, if you're drafted a starter in the third round, why didn't you draft him in the first round? What are you talking to?

We like our pick. That fucker. Is he still down there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Shock was fantastic today. Aggressive, moved really well. Confidence I saw the field clean.

That's what I'm talking about. I mean, Dano has been on. on it. The Dan Wagon will hop on some things that are good. Yep. Leave it at that. It's holiday season. Great work today, boys. Thank you, Debuck. Great week. Thank you, brother. You too. AQ, great work today. You too, brother. Be your friend, tell other friends, something nice.

It might change their life. AQ, anything for the team? Yeah, big week of football head. Thursday, head up to the Pacific Northwest, playoff games, Friday, NFL and playoff games. Enjoy this time of year, everyone. Hell yeah, AQ. Hell yeah. Well done. Thank you, Akew. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye!