The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1475 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 16 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Peter Schrager, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 16 of the NFL season including several more teams clinching a spot in the playoffs, the Steelers continuing to ascend, the Bears, Jaguars, and Patriots being at the top of their respective divisions, plus they recap the College Football Playoff games, preview tonight’s Monday Night Football game, and look at some overreactions from around the internet. Joining the progrum to preview tonight’s Monday Night Football game, chat about the most impactful injuries from this weekend, and look ahead to see what coaching vacancies might be open in a few weeks is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, ESPN NFL Insider, analyst/host, Peter Schrager joins the show LIVE from the ThunderDome to discuss his biggest takeaway’s from week 16 of the NFL season, the playoff picture, his thoughts on tonight’s Monday Night Football game between the 49ers and Colts, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our holly jolly, humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this massive overreaction Monday, December 22nd, 2025. This sports program begins now. Football! It is magical, and the college football playoffs have already begun. What a weekend it was, and there's going to be a lot of people loud about group of five teams getting into the big dance after a couple blowouts, but the environments were electrifying, and we now started at 12, now we're at 8, and good luck to those.

Those teams, we cannot wait to get to the next round of the college football playoffs. We'll be talking to Coach Dan Lannning, fresh off a big-time Oregon win tomorrow or Wednesday. We'll talk to Coach Cristobb, fresh off a massive Texas A&M dub, where that wind made the game just completely different than what anybody could have planned for it. The environment was wild, and the Miami Hurricanes win a college football playoff game. And Coach Cristobal immediately afterwards came over to me wearing my cowboy hat with the belt buckle and say, hey, I heard your pick. Obviously, you did it right before the game in the middle of the stadium. What a cool moment. Shout to Texas A&M for the hospitality, for all of that stuff. Shout to Austin Roberts, kind of set in the pace for what the game was going to be, missing two kicks.

I don't know if he would have been ever able to make it. But Chris Ball comes ever to me and says, hey, it's all about the U, brother. You should have known that. He almost went in for the double leg, I will say. I was on it as soon as I saw his big ass coming through the crowd. But we did want to celebrate him because that's a huge moment for him. Huge moment for Miami. Huge moment for college football, as it appears, is if the U is all the way back.

And that was a tough win down there in college station, especially with the atmosphere, with the crowd, with the wind, with the way everything was going. For them to walk out of there with a dub, they should be incredibly pumped. And now they got Ohio State, okay, and their nine-point dogs down to Cotton Bowl. We'll talk to him, I believe, on Wednesday. But, ladies and gentlemen, the NFL is also in the middle of its playoff run. There's been some tickets punched to the playoffs in the NFC, five of them, and the AFC, two of them. There's been some teams that have been deemed ass. And there's some teams that have kind of come out of the five.

as a transformational experience for an organization that was once in the outhouse. Now, swimming in a penthouse. And tonight, ladies and gentlemen, after punching their ticket to the playoffs just yesterday with other outcomes around the NFC, the San Francisco 49ers come into the Loud House. Lucas Oil Stadium as five and a half point favorites taking on Phil Rivers, who's an experienced vet in the 2025 season now. This is the second week. He's had a chance to feel what it's like to be back in the game.

chance to get a full work week ahead of them. And the boys are obviously ready to rally. This will be the sixth Monday night football game that has ever happened in Lucas Oil Stadium the Loud House. The fans are going to be excited. Tonight, everything is still in front of the Indianapolis Colts. Are the chances as high as some of the other teams to make the playoffs? Certainly not. But if you win, you can potentially get in. You just kind of got to do your thing. And Phil Rivers isn't here just to stand back there. He's here to maybe dance, build that Hall of Fame resume. So I think he got a great Colts team hosting a game that they don't get to host on a very regular basis. Now, through the first five Monday Night Football Games,

Lucasaw Stadium, one and four. Okay. Okay. Or the Indianapolis Colts. But this is Phil Rivers, Indianapolis. Different teams. He's a different team, different vibe, different time. And on the other side, this San Francisco 49ers team, they can still get the number one seed in the NFC. They have a lot to play for. They could have home field advantage throughout the entirety, and that's without Bosa, that's without Fred. That's what drama happening at the wide receiver room. This San Francisco 49ers team is who you expect them to be whenever they're at their best. Christian McCaffrey, obviously all over statute, all over the leaderboard.

Brock Purdy, spinning the defense, hunting. Bob Sala, smiling, juiced, jacked up on the sideline. Monday night football tonight should be a very special game. And I heard the halftime show, a lot of effort. Okay. A lot of effort for the halftime show. We're obviously

excited to be there. We've got some ESPN people in the city. We'd like to welcome them here to Indianapolis, Indiana. We hope you have a good time. Let's, uh, you know, let's just go back to our hotel rooms okay yeah straight back to our hotel rooms and on that note let's celebrate and enjoy what tonight could be which is special for our city and uh pierre stragg will be live in studio at one o'clock hour what shrieks wow won't be for the full hour so it won't be the shregor hour but we'll get about

shreger 40 minutes okay 45 minutes so he'll be here and uh potentially we'll see how the schedule works out the other guy oh wow what a treat there's a schedule though hey okay we got an itinerary today a lot of different shows from downtown we're up here Lawrence, northeast of downtown, so that, you know, people trying to make it happen, but we appreciate everything, and we're incredibly lucky to be here. The toxic table is here at Boston Car, hey. Hey. Hey, and do.

At Ty Schmidt. Yeah. Hey. I won't clap, sorry. One half of the hammer, Don. Cowboys, and Pete, Joe! We're here, Pittsburgh Steelers. What a Pittsburgh Steelers way to win that thing last night?

And shout out to the Detroit lines, potentially being the same. name? Old Lion. Come on. You lose games like that with a three-minute ref conversation that ends with touchdown.

Doesn't matter. To hell with all you. There was offensive pass interference. There was a lot of things that happened, but we want to tell you a couple things. There will be no replay. We just talk for three minutes. Potentially to the people who watch the replays,

okay? We don't know who they're talking to for three, four minutes. Was this forward progress stop? Potentially. ruled that because the refs came back after once again a three-minute discussion where we assume they are speaking to people that aren't on the field. They are talking to people maybe

in another city, maybe in New York. So for them to come back and say, it was a touch, Derek Gough, pretty good shit. Pretty good shit. They're diving through time to having a heady play. Sure, it might have been full of progress stop, but let me tell you why that doesn't matter. It was a touchdown, but offense pass interference kind of

rules it all out. We don't get a replay, and also, we don't get to watch it again. There will be no further assistance. So, you Ball go home, bummed out, losers. Aaron Rogers wins again here at Ford Field. And that feels like same old lions type stuff. Oh, yeah. That really does feel like same old lions type stuff.

Yeah, it certainly did. In my lifetime, I've watched the Lions lose so many games in the most unique ways in NFL history. I've never seen anything like yesterday. That one might top the list. Now, on that note, we're not saying that the reps were wrong, okay? I agree. I don't think even Lions have. Orlovsky said it was a terrible call.

I think that was a clear push-off. and they obviously went through the entire rulebook in their ear there to see what the right player. So we assume that they got the right outcome for what the penalty actually was. Ford Progress being stopped and not being a touchdown. I guess if they don't blow the whistle, they can't add that whistle is what they're saying.

But it was just the way they won about telling the Lions fans and the rest of the world. Yeah, it's touchdown, huh? Yep, good. Doesn't matter. Like, that's a hilarious way to kind of roll that out. He hit the strongest. However, it doesn't count game over.

See you later. Yeah, it was a nice dying. Oh, Gasco healing. We'll certainly talk more about that, refs. Nine-year NFL veteran, D-Buddler's here. Yes, there. D-Bots, Merry Christmas. Happy holidays, and it was great to be back on the sideline.

And congrats to your Miami Hurricanes. Now, people who watch, which we appreciate you doing on ESPN 2, wasn't a lot of points, but from our perspective in what we're experiencing, great game. Also, a lot of action with that wind. You see, Cowboy has lost surf series, especially if you're trying to buy the biggest asshole cowboy you can find. How could I get the biggest one possible?

It acts as a sale I found out when it's 35, 40 mile iron winds, okay? And it was a constant battle the entire day with cowboy hat. I saw a lot of people saying, why in Debutt wearing a cowboy hat? Why is Darius J. Butler buying into you guys go down to Texas A&M College Station and be a bunch of cowboys. A.J. Hawke had cowboy boots on, belt buckle head head. He never buys him. Whiz Gleaf and throw him put his hands up, too.

He would not put his feet on. The boys obviously took the opposite. opportunity to dress as awesome as you guys dressed. Khan, man, I thought there was a chance that was going to be you going forward. You as well, Ty. I saw the circle. I don't know what it was in the back pocket, thought you fit in perfectly down there. I don't know how many you dropped on that field, but I appreciate the fact that you guys did what you did.

Tone digs, wow, buddy. It was almost like you were supposed to be there. And you actually were in the end zone as you chased down your guy. Guy had one time, big smile on Tone's faces. He's scoring a touchdown in the middle of a college football playoff game. But what people think, there's done. That's in the middle of a game. being snapped on the other side of the feet.

Falls being snapped on the other side. This is in-game playtime. People were not happy. Tongue. What's his crime, dude? Yeah, in the college football playoff. But he was getting his hat. The thing rolled 34th.

Dee Butch. Yeah. There was no chance you were ever going to wear a cowboy hat down there. Look at your hat right now. I completely forgot about the biasness you were going to potentially show to Miami being a South Florida boy that you are. And then once the game started going, I'm like, oh, that's why DeBunch got the Air Force was on. He's not wearing a cowboy hat.

Actually, his suit. kind of hurricane if you were to get in there. And the entire time, you were pulling hard-in-mind hurricanes. And then we had Gumpy in the truck. He's dropping in, oh, Miami better team today, boys. I mean, it felt very much a pro-Miamy

conversation for a bit of it. They were by far the better team. They were by far the better team and handled the elements much better. And that potentially goes back to our conversation with Christobal before the game. They have an edge to, this team has an edge to them right now, and it feels like they showed up. Yeah, absolutely. There's some talks in the media

leading up to the game, obviously. But, you know, I'm a team guy. And I put the cowboy hat on before an NRG stadium. I believe it may have been a national championship. I had the hats on. And you know what? The universe, I think they had something up their sleeve because I had a nice brown hat to go with the suit,

blew it off before we ever even got on camera. And that was just the universe speaking. Like, hey, you are a team guy here, but I've been a hurricane fan my whole life. You know, it's in my blood. My older cousin, Willis McGahey, Hurricane Legend. So I couldn't go out there in Hurricane. I mean, what a cowboy,

have, but I am a team guy. Can't wait until next week. See what gimmick we pull off next week. But this game was awesome. The elements are obviously always a part of. That's why we love football. First playoff win for the Miami Hurricanes, getting a road win. It was an unbelievable environment, unbelievable plays. Malachi Tony, obviously, you know, making up for the fumble that he had earlier, having a game when the touchdown, the playmaker, obviously. Mark Fletcher, just an unbelievable performance by the defense as a whole. Ruben Bain Jr. absolutely dominated this game. I believe seven sacks for the defense. The environment was awesome. 104,000. Obviously, screaming Mimi's in there, man. It was an unbelievable environment and

it's nothing better that we do in these game experiences, boots on the ground. Yeah, it's crazy that we get to do it. We appreciate everybody to watch. We try to be an additive to the game. And I think if you listen to us early, now my voice was kind of coming and going because I went to that midnight yell practice the night before. That was a terrible decision. Sorry, for my voice, that was a bad decision. For life experience, great decision. I mean, experiencing what they do every single midnight before a home game, every home game,

not just college football playoff, every home game, 30, 40, 50,000 people sometimes come in at midnight. And I assume that it would be all the older people, like the students. Sure. You know, so in the middle of that speech, I drop a great, you guys are a bunch of fucking maniacs and pretty good, pretty good. And then all of a sudden I'm walking off, we got like a little four year, five, or six year olds in this place. I had no idea. They're just kind of accustomed to the tradition of, hey, night before games, we go and yell with the entire team. It's like the whole city comes out every single midnight. It was a special environment. I've never seen anything like that. I have no idea if that will ever exist at another place, especially starting in

2025. What they have is special. And I was sold completely on it. I'm like, these people are going to make this game a difference. And I think they did. I think the Texas A&M fans showed up in a big way, which makes this Miami win even more impressive to me. They were able to not only battle the wind that was absurd. Carson Beck, obviously a bit more of a thing. through the sky type of guy, then Marcel Reed, the quarterback of Texas A&M. But Mark Fletcher, that running back, we saw very early in that game if you were able to hear,

just give the ball to this guy. He's 6-2-230, and every time he got the rock, there was massive holes for him seemingly early. They did get a couple stops on him, and then he wouldn't touch the ball. It was almost like Derek Henry type situation. But he was kind of the, he was the breadwinner the entire time

with Malachi Tony doing the special stuff, and their defense being as thumpers as they were. I mean, guy risked his life to break up a pass on the end zone. Knew what was going to happen. Literally, just full cell right in front of us, boom. Full cell Miami guy. We see it. He's locked up right there.

Full concussion. We're talking about selling his entire body out to win the game from Miami. And we could feel that through the hurricanes. Oh, yeah. Like they are all in. That is a very tight group. They're very big. They're very fast.

They're very physical. It feels like they felt jaded by the entire conversation. They've certainly sold that. It's like, they're a problem. They are a real problem, I think, going forward. You felt that when we spoke with Coach Crystal Bar earlier in the week, you knew the mindset going into the team and to the game. And they talked about, I think their mantra leading up to the game was, look,

our 100 against their 100,000. And we like our 100 on that sideline. And they showed it, man. It was a gritty ball game. Texas A&M, their defense showed up as well. They were great on third down like they've been all season long. And it just came down to the trenches at the end of the day. Texas A&M had an opportunity to punch it in there.

And then Bryce Fitzgerald, for his second interception to show up like that as a true freshman. Where's he from? Miami, Florida, yeah. So that's the other part of it, too. This is huge because you always talk about the talent that's in South Florida. And historically, once they start getting plucked, going to other places. When the U was the U, most of the talent, they stayed, Andre Johnson.

We saw him on the sideline, Michael Irvin, Edgerman James, Ray Lewis. Like, these are all, like, Florida guys. So having a young freshman like this, Malacotone, another South Florida guy, Mark Fletcher Jr., another South Florida guy, him in Malacotony. high school teammates, and even that part of it, when Tony had the fumble. No, I just saw a team from Baltimore beat Utah in a national champion. You're right. That's cool with that.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, St. Thomas, where Mike Irvin went to school, they just won their seventh state title in a row, I think 17 included. So, yeah, we, look, we know where their talent comes from. All right. PA's up there through, probably top, I don't know, 6, 7 maybe, but Miami, Florida, Dimmer 1, for sure, maybe Cali, Texas, Georgia, you know, Louisiana. Yeah, Louisiana, I've heard Louisiana is actually, that became a big part of the conversation.

Speaking of them, Ole Miss gets a huge win. Congrats to them. Just kind of belt the ass there throughout the entirety for Tulane. Oregon gets a win over JMU. They don't cover them. Good cover by JMU fought. 99 to cover. Saw that coming.

I saw. Legends. I saw, yeah, a lot of people are saying about the JMU team. Thank God they save the cover there strictly for the gamblers. Everybody else was saying, let's not act like this game was actually what, the final score. was, please. Oregon put their third stringers in for a majority of it. So if we want to talk third string Oregon versus JMU, then we can talk about real, which is kind of what Coach Saban was referring to last week. So JMU, congrats on a hell of a season, just like Tulane,

hell of a season. That's why we don't think they should be put in the biggest game of the year and just get smacked. That could also be a conversation that could get added into this entire thing. But I think there's going to be big time changes to the college football playoff, not just because of the two outcomes, but because I think the college football playoff has shown a willingness to change if they can make it better. They've made a couple different moves here in the offseason after year one. I think they'll do it again, and I think there's a chance we don't see, you know, some of smaller schools, unless they're already top 10 or ranked top 15, which is difficult whenever

you start down there. We at West Virginia experience this. We are rolling folks whenever we got good, but it was hard to get the respect of anybody that we were a real team because all anybody was waiting for the other shoe to drop. Like, it's West Virginia, though. It's West Virginia, though. So it does take a little bit longer to get respect in the ranking world whenever you're a smaller school.

So I could see how that was like, look at UCF. They had to go years, right, of dominance for them to get actual respect in there. They're undefeated. They threw their own national championship parade because they didn't get enough respect to do it. So the smaller schools will say, well, if we have a team that could go for one year, will we even get respected enough to get ranked high? That's a great question. Because if you do have a smaller school that goes for a year,

all those guys are going to be gone. So they're not going to be able to run it again. So they have to figure that whole thing out. But nonetheless, I love a college football playoff. I love what we got out of Alabama going into Oklahoma getting a win. I like 50 cent coming out in Alabama getting turned up as opposed to Oklahoma getting turned up to it. I like everything about what we experienced this weekend, especially the environments. I do wish, though, that the powers that be who have the big brains who put their hats down on the hat rack and go to work, if they would just, let's just pick the best 12 teams.

let's just pick the best world teams let's move forward now if they win a championship and i'm sorry jam you i was not on this side last week i think you go back and listen to me tulane as well i think it does not matter i think it does not matter if you win a championship but you won in a championship game so that should up your ranking i think so if you are highly ranked and you should get in if you are a big power four program will that continue to be power four we got to be able to adjust if one of these conferences becomes ass i think we got to be able to move to power three some years, I think that has to get deemed. I do think championship game, both,

should be able to get in. So we got to figure out who's power three, who's power, whatever that is, and then why not make it 60, you know? Here we go. Give us more. Here we go. Let's get away from college ball

and let's talk about the NFL. Every single Monday, we get to a thing called the top five headlines that we saw coming out of the NFL slate. Now, normally that's just Sunday, but this past weekend, they blessed us. We had Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. And now we got Monday night football.

The NFL is obviously crushing. College football is great. Here's our top five headlines driven by ram trucks. Every time you push that gas pedal when you're sitting in a ram truck, you know that you're protected. You're going to be riding on clouds. It's going to have enough technology to keep up today and enough power to pull whatever. And when you hit that gas pedal, it's going to sound like ram, ram, ram, ram, ram our ass into the top five, top five.

Number five headline from our perspective. from ass to class of the league. Here are some storylines from different cities that if your team is asked right now, you can draw some inspiration, you can draw some optimism, you can draw some, you know what, maybe the future isn't going to be as ass as it is right now. Bears last couple years, ass. Carolina Panthers last couple years? Ass.

Jacksonville Jaguars last couple years. as New England Patriots last couple years as now they're dancing baby and they're not just dancing they got a real chance at this entire thing Patriots 4 and 13 last season now they're 12 and 3 Jaguars 4 and 13 as well Liam Cohen saying keep the narrative going that we're asked please

small market goes in a mile high Denver's best team of football right best team in football they get a big time when they're 11 and 4 bears 5 and 12 let alone all the drama that has happened around the Chicago Bears and then whenever you think about the Carolina Panthers team. Yeah, right.

They should not be anywhere near this. If the football gods were to be holding karma against a team, everything that ownership in this team did to its fans over the last 10 years would be held against Carolina Panthers forever. There was one point where there was actually a thousand people in the stands watching this Carolina Panthers team. It looked like D3 football is what the game environment was. They rolled out this virtual reality panther that was obviously a joke.

They had ownership getting in fights with fans and store owners. Everything was bad, bad, bad. And now they're going to win the NFC South. They are going to host a playoff game. Now, it's certainly still up for grabs. The Bucks can still get it. But a huge win for the Carolina Panthers. And if your team stinks right now, look no further than Charlotte, North Carolina.

Because the Carolina Panthers can bring you some real hope for what the future could hold. It basically felt like the Panthers were becoming what the Bucks used to be. Like even if you look at, you know, that last point, play by Bryce Young. That's a play you would see, you know, Baker Mayfield making to win the entire game. Tett is like a younger Mike Evans. Coker's turning into a younger Chris Godwin. Like it's insane kind of the comparisons between the two. And then when you look at this play, it really is like, oh, Baker Mayfield's going to go and win the game. And that's what Bryce Young does. Gets away, dodges another guy and then throws a touchdown pass. Like how many times have we seen

Baker Mayfield make that exact same play to win the game? Not in the past, even just earlier in the year. Like the Panthers really are kind of a new. team of that division. Shout out to the Panthers. Shout to the Jags too. They're for real, D. But it feels like you've been wanting to talk about them a lot over the last four or five weeks.

I think the world hasn't really wanted to talk about it. But it's real down there in Duvall. And Trevor Lawrence, hey, everything they said he was seemingly becoming right in front of our eyes right now. Yeah, we talk about it. You guys always mention it. It's just very,

very hard to actually succeed on this level. So people want that instant success. And he was crowned as that guy, the prince that was promised since coming into the league. and now he's hitting his stride. You know, Liam Cohen comes over. He was a hot hire. A lot of people, especially after his introductory press conference, you know,

had some thoughts about him. I sing-loaded. Absolutely. And rightfully so. But he's shown that he is a great football coach, and he's setting his quarterback up for great success. Also made a very good hire with Campanelli on the defensive side of the ball because they're living and dying with their turnovers right now.

But Jaguars are blowing people away. And this was a huge, huge statement win in Denver, the number one-seat team in the AFC right now. And this is all without the number two. two overall pick that they still have. Here's some HEMBO stats about this Jacksonville Jaguar six-game win streak. They've outscored their opponents by 113 points. Unbelievable. They spent more time leading by 25 points than trailing at all. And Trevor Lawrence has 14 touchdowns, zero turnovers in the last four games, 77.4 QBR. They are what we like to call rolling. And this

is what they talked about in January. And we kind of mocked it a little bit because they lost right away to Jake Browning and the Bengals, but now, what, 10 weeks later, it kind of does feel like it's going to go on forever! Shout at the Shod Khan, obviously the owner for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Jerry and Jones, or Jari and Jones, just a couple, you know, games removed here from Sequin Barclay jumping over backwards his head. He's on a sideline. You know, some people get rolled up, some people avoid, hi-ie!

Straight up and over. Wow. The athleticism. like a damn cat right there. I mean, that is spectacular. He'll go on and get a pick. Jacksford Jaguars win. In the old days of Jacksonville Jaguars,

he potentially tears ACL. Yeah, for sure. He potentially tears Achilles. He certainly is getting speared to the ground and maybe taking out a trainer. Ninety-year-old doctors, ah, that is what Jacksonville Jaguars fans would probably expect in the past.

Now you have a sick jumpover. Guy looks bad that got off balance and he looks like a stud. And then, oh, yeah, he's going to carry it on for the rest of the game. Debutt. seems like they're rolling down there in Duvall

I don't like it at all not good for the Avers South not good for the Indianapolis Colts they got a quarterback who's young mm-hmm CJ's very young let's talk about young quarterback that can still go

this Chicago Bears team hey maybe whenever a coach is the bell of the ball there's a reason yeah you know it may be a coach turns down years

multiple years worth of nah I'm not going nah I'm not going they can maybe drive people to think, this drama, there's only 32 head coach and jobs in the NFL anyways, what can this guy really do?

Good, better, best, never let rest of the good as better and better as best. He comes in there immediately changes the culture at the beginning, allegedly a little bit rocky, are him and Caleb going to be able to get along? Caleb wasn't even playing in preseason games, allegedly because he didn't really know the offense yet and Ben Johnson didn't want to put him out there, which led us all to think, wait, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams

ever going to get along? We are Ben Johnson's an absolute dog, and we hear of Caleb Williams, obviously, a lot of moxie, a lot of of swag, a lot of character. He has been very famous for a long time. Well, these two, yeah, they will. And he's about to break every quarterback record that Chicago Bears have. Ben Johnson's got the entire culture ready to win the NFC North,

and they pick up a massive overtime dub over the Green Bay Packers and make some huge plays in critical moments on both sides of a ball, including special teams where they get an on-side kick. Wow. I don't know if I'm putting guardian cap guy out there. I don't know if I'm putting guardian cap out there as the hands guy. Best hands with a team. with a guardian cap. I think the hands think you have to have a certain level of

fuck it to you. I think you have to have that. Now I'm not saying Dobbs doesn't have that. Guardian cap tells me he does have at least summer reservations. So I don't know if that's necessarily who I put there. But great kick by Cairo, great recovery by the Bears. And obviously they come back fourth quarter drive and then overtime winner as well, which has dropped in an absolute bucket. Chicago Bears, culture was ass. Team was shit. Now when the NFC North debuts and maybe the whole damn thing?

Man, King of the North right now. You talk about prime time games delivering all weekend long. This is one of the best finishes I've ever seen for a throw like that. That was obviously the icing on the cake, but just everything down the stretch. And this is who Caleb Williams has been this year in second half's ball games. Even some of the games that they lost, he has played great down the stretch. He's already has the most fourth quarter comebacks for any Bears quarterback in history. He's just unbelievable.

You talk about Ben Johnson, obviously the running game, the investments they made in the offensive line. But once again, when you talk about creating a culture, that's not only head coach, but it's also the staff. Hiring Dennis Allen on the defensive side, Al Harris as well. And they're bringing in some vets that can make big time plays on both sides of the ball. Like, he is playing unbelievable right now. I'm calling him Iceman going forward. Okay, I like that. I love the mox.

And then listening to Caleb talk. Yeah, that's his thing. And listening to him talk. He sounds like a 12-year vet anytime like he's in front of the camera, even after that type of moment. Like, it was all class talking about the Packers and the rivalry. showing up and doing some stuff in the community with the cheese grater hat. So I love everything that Caleb's doing, and obviously it starts with your head coach. Yeah, and even more so to the ice man, just being cool as shit, throws that ball,

hands immediately go into the thing. It's almost like a Steph Curry walkoff, which we saw from Drake May and the Patriots. It's like Chicago Bears, the New Kings of the North up there in the Bears world. Obviously, it was a midway miracle is how we framed it for the headline. huge comeback late, obviously make plays whenever they need it. And the Green Bay Packers, more injuries here. Now, obviously, Jordan Love goes down with concussion. Malik Willis goes down.

Feels like the last couple weeks, the injury bug has hit you guys hard. What does the rest of the season look like for the Packers, Ty Schmidt? Well, luckily, because the Lions lost yesterday, the Packers just need to win one of their last two games. They have Baltimore on Saturday this week, and then they end the season with the Vikings. If they win one of those two games, they'll get in. And right now, I mean, good question.

because it seems like concussions this year have been multi-week injuries, not usually just, hey, that guy got concussed on Saturday. I mean, yeah, he took one on the button big time. So we'll see if he plays on Saturday, but it's looking like, for all intents and purposes, if the Packers

can win one game, they'll get in with the seventh seed, and then they'll probably end up having to go back to Chicago and play the Bears again in the first round. And then the Patriots, the fourth Astor-Class team, and obviously saying the Patriots in ass together is leaving out the dynasty that they had for 20 plus years.

This is the next chapter. This is when we were supposed to be celebrating New England, not having a good football team. This is when the rest of the fan bases around the NFL. We're supposed to point and laugh at the Revolution region. This is what life is like with a real football team. You're going to have to struggle. You're going to have to see the hard times.

Now, when that parade comes back, you'll certainly enjoy it more. But this is what life is like. And then all of a sudden, Mike Vrable is still available somehow. He loves the Patriots more than maybe anybody into history. Okay, maybe he might love. Patriots. I mean, this just hit me as it was rolling out of my mouth. Top five for sure.

Behind me, but top five. I'm not going to play your coach-wise, because there was a falling out, obviously, with a lot of different situations. Now, Tom, I think. He ends up in Tampa. Julian Edmund, I think, maybe. Julianne. Joe's for sure.

Joel loves, whatever the case, Vrable, whenever he gives his Hall of Fame induction speech, while coaching for another team is like, hey, this is the greatest place all hers. I've seen other buildings that work. one right now, it is ass. Okay, compared to what you have here. The fans are set up, the ownership, everything. This is dream come true for football, basically.

And he gets up there, once again, culture, culture, and has the perfect quarterback for it. And then he gets stars to buy in. I mean, Stefan Diggs coaching on the sideline. Would we ever think that that's what we would be seeing this year from Stefan Diggs? I don't think so. So this Patriots team is unbelievable.

Now, the other side we'll certainly talk about it here in a little bit with Baltimore. But Drake May, what a perfect guy for now. New England. And your team goes from Ask the Class of the League. Life is much better on this side. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Not to mention, you know, Mike Vrable being a football, Savanty also drafted 4-5,

maybe 6 Hall of Famers in this class that they just had. Kyle Williams, ridiculous touchdown, catchdown on the sideline, he's a rookie. Craig Woodson, Dibut actually texts me during the game. The rookie safety for New England, he's a Hall of Famer. Wolf Campbell, not even playing. Let's keep that in mind, too. Drake May

throws with 380 yards, down by 11 in the fourth quarter. Goes on an 89-yard drive to win the game at the end of the game without your starting left tackle. Starting right tackle missed about a quarter and a half. Starting running back. Rookie, Treviani Henderson, going to be a Hall of Famer. He also concussion leaves the game.

I mean, there really isn't that much you can say about Drake May. He's the guy going forward. I think everybody knows especially, you know, when you watch him. He's only 23 years old. He looks like he's 43. He's 23. And then Stefan Diggs after the game saying like, you know, I'll tell you what, he prepares. He prepares. He

prepares to play games like, and I don't want to say the guy's name, but he prepares like, like Tom Brady, okay? Diggs wasn't going to say it, but everyone knows where he was going. He was walking you down. He's the next Tom Brady path, but we don't have to say it. It's very obvious. I think it's hard to watch that game, especially after watching like a Caleb versus Packers game. You're like, yeah, Caleb's cool. Jane Daniels is cool. All these young rookie quarterbacks are cool. Drake May isn't a different tier. He's ridiculous. He's the MVP. MVP odds very high for Drake May. And once again, he's only in his second season you know it's only in a second season. Another great higher Josh McDaniel.

Unbelievable. And he'll be there forever. He's already done the whole coach, head coach and run around. Loves the area. D.C., go ahead. Who wants to be a head coach? You're going to come to be in D.C. for a little bit? Bobby Spillane's there, okay? Mike Ravel's calling place. You're just hanging out for a little bit. Yeah, it's like the opposite of what the chief's had. Bingo. You know, for a long time. Congrats to the, congrats, Patrick. And we can all, if our team becomes completely ass and a shite show, we can look to those four teams, is like, hey, next season can be better. You need to make a lot of good hires.

But next season can certainly be better. Let's go to number four headline coming out of the week. That's AFC North Football, baby. Coach Mike, Tom, win. And is it Harbover in Baltimore? Oh, no. It's getting live. It's getting lied in Baltimore.

Derek Henry scores another touchdown and doesn't touch the ball. The hell are we doing? Has John Harbaugh lost his football sense? Has John Harbaugh lost the team? How come this team looks so different than in the years past? Is the message not getting home anymore? And how are they blowing leads like this all the damn time? Is it a culture issue?

Is it a talent issue? Is it a team issue? Is it a stale issue? Is it Coach Harbover in Baltimore, D-Buzz? I'm not going to call for his job. He's still a great football coach in my mind. But Baltimore Ravens fans, they are loud and have been loud. Because when you talk about both of these franchises that we just had up on the screen,

the Ravens and the Steelers, those are championship caliber franchises. And coming into this season, I think Ravens were, what, either a one or two. One. Okay, the Super Bowl favorite to win it. So to be looking at a place where you're almost not going to make the playoffs, obviously you have injuries at your quarterback, but just critical fumbles. Once again, Zay Flowers, South Florida guy. I love them. You can't fumble the ball in a big moment like that again.

Derek Henry didn't touch the ball for the last 12 minutes, I think, with the backup quarterback in the game. That's insane, but he had another big fumble in this game as well. These are obviously a great play, chase it down and punch it out. But you can't have that in this game. And this is what you've seen over and over again with the Ravens. You talked about blowing fourth quarter leads. They talked about it on television class last night.

I think it was 12 games at that point with seven plus lead in the fourth quarter and you lost them. Like, that's historically bad. So something's got to change. That bums out butter and the boys are really. I mean, you have the lead and then you lose it. And this team was supposed to go Super Bowl. A lot of people thought. I was excited to watch the Ravens.

Continue to be excited to watch Ravens. Anytime I see their name on the screen, like, hey, we got a Ravens game. Sick. I'm going to be able to see Lamar Jackson play football. I'm pumped about that. It started great, too. They're making, though. They're really good.

Zay a couple times. Derek running it. Lamar moving, spinning it. Yeah, defense doing their thing. It's like, all right, this is what we've been waiting for. This is what everybody's been waiting for. Then he just blew at the end again. And Lamar doesn't, he had his ankle taped.

I saw that. Okay, so I didn't know. I don't know if we all knew, but I certainly didn't remember. remember an ankle being a thing, but him coming on to the field with his ankle, and then he had to hamstring this year, then he was sick. It was like, it feels like we haven't seen the electrifying Lamar Jackson all year either that we've seen. Through the air, he can certainly spin it. But whenever he was running, it just looked different this year the entire

year. Is it because of injuries? What does next year look like? I mean, there's a lot of convoes about that. And then the AFC North, there's one thing that's going to be as steady as death in taxes, brother. And that's Mike Tomlin, his good Tom win. 19 consecutive non-losing seasons. That's 500 or better as a coach. Tom Landry had 20 winning seasons. He had won 500 season 8-8 or whatever. Bill Belichick obviously did what he did with New England for so long. And Tomlin has 18 winning seasons with one 8-and-8 season.

And then they have 22 in total as a team. Hey, we're used to winning football around here. Now, Tom Wynn gets a big one in Detroit. Steelers fans ecstatic, right? We're ready to go? More than ecstatic, Pat. Like more than ecstatic. because they won in Steelers fashion

it having to come down to the last play and the last drive and blowing a fourth quarter lead that is how the Steelers do it but the other rest of the game was not in Steelers fashion they had almost 500 yards of total offense 230 on the ground Aaron was unbelievable they only gave up 15 rushing

yards to Sonic and Knuckles I don't want to say their other nickname 15 rushing yards Oh they're saying ass and cheeks I think they are Oh no Foxy why are you guys doing it? We cannot call these two running backs, ass and cheeks. If you want to call the offensive line, ass and cheeks, go ahead.

Ass cheeks, ass. That would be the starting five? Except for Pentee Soule. Don't touch him. Oh, sorry. Ass, cheeks. As a little clip of Derek Harmon, you know, just talking to him, too. But, hey, we love him.

We love Pett. I would like, I would like Peney to go. Well, I don't mind a rigatone. Sure. Speaking of a rigatone. But Peney Soe is, we are big fans of Penny. Go ahead. Speaking of a rigatone.

and Sonic and Nuggle and ass and cheeks. Maybe Mario and Luigi and Kenneth Gainwell and Jalen Warren. They were both over 100 yards total, each of them. They've been awesome the entire single year. Everything went well yesterday, except for the fourth quarter we decided to go into Prevent Defense with 12 minutes left. That's been kind of the thing over the last three games. Last year, though, the Steelers went into the playoffs losing four straight.

They've won three straight this year, so the momentum. That's a running back. Yes, it is. It is a running back. He has five games. year over 100 total scrimmage arts. He has won before this season. So Ken Gainwell has been unbelievable this year. Everything was awesome yesterday. Tomlin, last two weeks, five of five on fourth down. They only have 11 fourth down conversions on the entire year, five in the last

two weeks. So he's coaching a little differently, a little more aggressively. Everything was great yesterday. Everyone feels really, really good about the Steelers right now, where they are, especially with the playoff picture. Yeah, can we win at all? Yeah, yes. I think we, yeah. TJ's still not playing. Two wins without TJ. That's huge. That's very abnormal. This was without TJ, without Nick Herbig. Eccles, the slot guy got hurt earlier in the game. Yes, there's some injuries going on.

Hopefully our NFC brother in the Packers take care of business on Saturday night, or we can win on Sunday against the Browns and get in potentially see what the situation is week 18. But yes, I think because like with the AFC, there are really, really good teams. Like we talked about the Jags and the Patriots and the Broncos and the Chargers and the bills. Like those are all really, really good teams. But I don't know if there's like that team where. you're like, oh, that's a definite loss. Like, I think any of these

teams in the AFC, no matter who's playing who, like feels like they have a chance this year. I think so, too. Patriots are my only difference just strictly because I see Vraib. Vraib's trying to get cauliflower here. Oh, yeah. With the left side of his headset. Do you see that?

He's not that thing trapped down to top of his thing. Need some pain. Yeah, he might, that legitimately might be what he's doing. Because every time I see him, like the guy, he's got to be, he's got to feel that. I mean, on your ears. Does he coach with tax and his shoes? I didn't think about that probably.

I mean, there's a chance. He's chewing on actual rocks over there, too, just keep his edge. So I think about the Patriots, I'm like, I think the Patriots are going to win most games that they play. I think Josh Allen, tough to pick against Josh Allen, but I think Aaron Rogers, Tomlin, everybody on that squad, especially if TJ's able to get back, which we're not saying he's going to. I don't think anybody really knows what's going to happen in that entire situation. We're hoping for it. It's like Steelers fans, I think rightfully so, thinking they can win it all. Now, if they don't, quarterback, not probably, unless Aaron, you know, maybe.

He's playing right now. He is playing right now. The demon Adam Thielen. Yeah, Theelan's doing it. Scootie. Scott Miller got a ball the other day. I mean, now we've got to talk about, obviously, the incident that took place with the blue hair in the stands.

D.K. Metcalf grabbed shirt of fan from Detroit in second quarter. And then side angle shows shove shirt, but certainly in a very aggressive manner. Blue hair guy celebrates immediately upon it happening because he knows everything that he was hoping to accomplish. certainly gets accomplished. There's certainly some physicality there from DK to old buddy. Now, old buddy told the Detroit Free Press that he called DK by his full name or something along those lines. Now, DK's actual name on X is his full name. And then there was other

reporters that have said like, hey, I did a story on his name that seemingly not would get him this fired up to do this. Then, um, uh, DK reach out to Ocho and on nightcap, Ocho said that he said the N-word, I believe, and said something about his mother. Obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers have not said anything yet. I think they are probably waiting. We have not talked to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but we are assuming the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to wait for the NFL to say something first, and then the Pittsburgh Steelers were kind of just follow suit in the entirety. We assume that there's mics on D.K., because he's 30 million a year guy, D.K. Metcalf, Steelers on his hopeful Super Bowl push. Aaron Rogers' potential last season. I assume there's a lot of

mics on a lot of people. And on the sidelines, there's a lot of boom mics. So we assume there'll be some sort of investigation on what happened, how it happened. But obviously, you can't be touching fans at games. This is a nightmare for the NFL. This is not great news. But I think there'll be a lot more clarity. And I think everybody's probably waiting on that as it continues to roll on. I don't know if I missed anything there. Not a crazy situation. Obviously, you know, you talked about the Tom Pelliserra tweet talked about the history there. And then I think some other fan nearby said they had there and put it. But right now, as he say, she's saying until we hear some if we ever do.

And when I saw the reaction from D.K., that was the only thing I thought. It's only one word that I could see to get that type of reaction on the field. And then, hey, however you react, you react. But outside of that, like you said, as a professional athlete, you got to kind of have some restraint.

And then fans, you know, there got to be some line there, but what can and can't be said. So we always talk about it in public. Hey, once we came back, you can get punched in the mouth. And that counts for people that are in uniform, too.

So we'll see how it plays out. And D.K. We'll see how it plays out in the NFL as well. To that point about in real life, a lot of people on the internet have gotten very comfortable being chatty. You know, that has become something. I think COVID expedited that because it was the only way to really communicate with people. So people got real comfortable with the shit. And we gave a warning as COVID ended, like, hey, remember now, in real life, people weren't just about the tweets and scrolling.

Like, they actually hear it and they're there with you. And at first weekend back in live stadiums, boy, like the bodies hit the floor. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of pent up a lot. happening around there and we're not saying that's how this should be but we are saying there's like a moral code i believe you have to the fan code that you sign up for whenever you buy a ticket it's in there they run the entire thing so whenever they do and find out what it is not saying that you should ever be a fan should ever be grabbed okay performer and audience physicality

not good cannot happen actually cannot happen but there are standards for both sides that are going to be obviously examined and uh to your point who knows if we ever find out what it is you know i saw a guy take a helmet off and i still have no idea yeah yeah and everybody in there was miced so right i don't know if we'll ever find out but obviously this cannot be happening okay let's go to our third headline the ruffs are on contract here yeah okay are they're on contract here so normally when you're on a contract you're d but what are you trying to do put your best foot forward every time trying to run that back up That's what we're trying to do, right?

Is there a chance that these guys and girls are saying, let's show them what it could be like with ass officials? Let's remind them of what it was like whenever we had to replacement refs. Because it seems like, and now, granted, there's more primetime games, so there's going to be more eyes on all these calls. There are some terrible calls that happen at 1 o'clock games that are slid into regional television than nobody really hears. More primetime games, we're going to see more stuff.

But even if it is the right call, which we kind of agree with the right call because of the bygones, the three-minute talk on the field, optically looks terrible, and then coming out of that, just cutting a heel promo, we don't think that's the best way to go back to it. We don't think that is necessarily the best way for a game to end. And then you talk about the Patriots game. The Patriots had multiple. You had to have seen it by now.

There's a pass interference where the guy is actually, I mean, he's actually hugging him. He's hugging his entire body, and the catch is made, I do believe. No, I'm sorry, sorry, should have been made. And then obviously, there's no call for pass interference. Marlon Humphrey had a pick in the game. Clearly, pass interference. What are you watching if you're not calling that? Right there.

And then it wasn't even just that in this game. There's also a roughing the passer that takes place that, I mean, I guess there was contact chest to chest and face masks touch each other. But do we need to be calling a ruffing the passer, which is a 15-yard penalty? A very, very, very gigantic penalty. I mean, 15 yards is a huge thing. A turnover. And a turnover, but also 15 seconds left. I mean, just in that moment, calling that is just like a bad decision.

So a little bit more self-awareness we'd like to have. And then obviously Thursday night, we didn't get a chance to chat about it. What a game. Unbelievable. Insane. What a game. Great. And then the two-point situation where it was a phone, then it wasn't a fight, it was deflected,

and then having the whole setup going back. And then going back in that moment in the time, it's like, can we work on the optics of some of these things? Even if you get it right, like we need it to be better just because you're representing the league, representing the game, let alone getting calls wrong, let alone having seemingly no football awareness on what should be called on what particular play. But as we get in the most important time of year here, we need some awareness about what the game needs and what it doesn't need and how it needs it. Yeah, absolutely. The most important thing, obviously, is getting it right. But when you have that white cap on, you are, you know, you're representing the game, you're representing the league to, you know, the millions that are watching.

But getting it right is the number one thing. We agree. This play was unbelievable. This is something that I've never seen before. I don't know about you. The replay, I think the players on the field, especially the defense, because you've been around football a long time. We all have, we always preach, hey, pick up the ball, pick up the ball.

And the fact that the Rams, nobody on the team thought about even going to the ball on like a lateral type play because of it bouncing forward. You know, I think that kind of just almost freezes you, even on punts. It's like, hey, poison, poison, just get away from it. Don't worry about it. But Charbonnet, having a heads up, been. of where picking the ball up and end up being the difference in his game. So wouldn't that be considered a Sam Donald fumble?

He fumbles it because it was a backwards. Yes. So then how can you advance a fumble? There are so many intricacies, which once again, ref, these are, this is role on this, as opposed to saying, touchdown, yeah, right, we're joking. Like, if you are representing the game, we think that needs to be talked about in the contract here with the refs as well. Yeah, and that makes no sense.

But, like, this is going to, this play right here is going to decide the one seed in the NFC. Like, we're talking about the playoffs, a buy, the most important thing some of these teams need, especially in an 18-week, 17-game season. Like, that buy week for the playoffs is massive, and this is the play that's going to most likely define who is the one-seat in the NFC. Primetime games, a lot of eyes, a lot of important outcomes. Good luck to the refs.

You're on a contract here. Remember, we need your best shit. And also, the guy, the Big 12 crew that refs, the Texas A&M, Miami game. Let's get them in the NFL. I don't know how we fast pass. I don't know how we fast pass. So let's get them up there. They seemingly understand ball. All of them. They have like a good feel for it. And M fans might not agree. Why? They didn't like the flag not been throwing the Torre hit. On, uh, oh, the helmet to helmet. When he knocked himself out. What did it have mattered? Would they change play call?

What they would have had a fresh set of downs up there? And they probably would have ran it. That's a big boo. Whatever the case. Certainly helmet to helmet though. Yeah. Let's get to number two headline coming out of the week. again, Philly flies over Fust, a back-to-back NFC titles. First time in 21 years, somebody has won the NFC East back-to-back times. It is the Super Bowl champs. And when you talk about flying over fuss, it's every day.

Yeah. It's every day with this team, seemingly. And Nick Siriani and the boys somehow remain focused. I love the fact that Cooper DeGine is dropping a five-knuckle shuffle, especially with everything that was going on in his potential rumored life. And then Jalen Hurts playing ball, Sequin Barkley doing his thing.

The commander's obviously an interesting spot. But whenever you talk about going back-to-back in a division that hasn't had back-to-back, you have to respect it. A lot of primetime games, obviously very similar style of football year-in, year-out. Eagle is able to get it done. Do we think they can win a Super Bowl again and go back-to-back, not only NFCs, but also Super Bowl? You know, I'm a little biased here. I think so.

You know, I think you have a quarterback, you have a coach, a coaching staff, a defense. You have guys pretty much who have done it already. So I think their battle tested. This was a battle, too. This was a KG affair against a four-win, Washington Commanders team, and they found a way to get it done. and they'll have to find that running game back. And I think when Lane Johnson gets back in there, it'll be a completely different run game.

And Jalen Hertz has been looking better down the stretch. It was against what, the Raiders and the commanders now. You obviously be facing some good ball clubs down the stretch, but I think they have what it takes in the building to get it done in the playoffs. Devonte Smith blocking down the field here to free them. I mean, that's buying, that's commitment, good for them in their biggest ball. And then the number one headline coming out of the weekend that was for the NFL. Merry clinchmas.

Hey, seven teams. And punch there, take it to the playoffs. Five in the NFC, two in the AFC. There's obviously a couple of teams lurking. Congrats to the Seattle Seahawks, the Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, the Los Angeles Rams, and the San Francisco 49ers who are playing. Tonight, congrats to them. Yeah, congrats to the Broncos and to the Patriots.

Way to go. Way to go. Thanks, guys. Thank you. The seeds that would be there would be where they would be sitting, but obviously the seeds can all change, and the top four seeds go to division champs. So, you know, that's just kind of where they're sitting at. Green Bay Packers, Detroit Lions, Carolina Panthers, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers can obviously still make it.

Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who's going to win the NFC South? Then in the NFC, North, who else is going to get in? Then the AFC, I think it's kind of figured out who's going to be there. Conman has an entire breakdown that he's going to do later. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's still some teams lurking like the Indianapolis Colts who do a huge thing for their chances if they were to win tonight. Joining us now, speaking of tonight, ladies and gentlemen, is the senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan, and Adam Schaefter.

Sheffey. General what's going on? Shephti, happy holidays. Merry Christmas. All of them. We kind of put you in a box here for only nine minutes, and we need a lot of information

because there's been a lot of injuries and a lot of things happening. Let's start with tonight. San Francisco 49ers, five and a half point favorites with the Indianapolis Colts. Phil Rivers looks smarter and faster than he's ever looked.

What are a couple of things we need to know before we pick tonight, Shafti? Well, the 49ers have struggled to stop the run. Jonathan Taylor's been a machine. think we'd have an idea of what's going to come tonight. I think the cults are going to be feeding Jonathan Taylor. I think he gets a ton of work this evening in an area that the 49ers have struggled defensively. And the cults activated DeForest Buckner a short time ago. So that's

going to help their run defense and be a big factor tonight. First game back from a neck injury, no sauce gardener. He's out. And the cults still are really good. It'll be Philip River's second game with the team. And we'll see if he can save your franchise there and help get them to the playoffs, you know, game they have to have tonight. Sixth Monday night football game in the history of Lucas Oil Stadium to Lodd House. Can't wait for it to be on display. Hired the halftime show is going to be electrified.

I saw a unicycle. Oh, no. Yeah, I think I saw a unicycle. Not 100% sure, but I think I saw a unicycle. All right, let's move some other NFL stories. Go ahead, Ty. Shephti, any update on both Jordan Love and Lamar Jackson

before that massive, you know, playoff implication game between the Packers and the Ravens on Saturday? Yeah, well, obviously there are some teams in some challenging quarterback spots here at the end of the season. The Packers are one, the Ravens are another. Packers have a situation where Love is still in protocol. Malik Willis banged up his shoulder. Now, the good part is I don't expect them to go sign another quarterback, which tells you that at least one of those guys should be able to go on Saturday. They have Clayton Tune on their practice squad. If one of them can't go, obviously they

they'd elevate Clayton Tune, and he would be the backup for Green Bay. But it sounds like they're not going to make another move for a quarterback, unlike a team like the Kansas City Chiefs, that has to go out a quarterback after Mahomes and Minshu, you know, hurt their knees back-to-back weeks. We expected to be a torn ACL for Gardner Minshue. We said this to you last week about another player, Mahomes, I think it was, as a matter of fact. So they're going to have to add another quarterback to get through the final two games of the season.

Chiefs, Pennhouse to Oddhouse, quick. I mean, we're talking about Dynasty, about a week and a half ago. Now, two straight losses, a lot of injuries, lost to the Titans in Nashville. Obviously, congrats to them getting a little bit of happiness for at least a few moments. Into the Chiefs, who knows what the years going forward look like. Also, let's talk about the next couple weeks going forward. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shepter, obviously, we saw the interaction between D.K. Mechaf and the fan yesterday in Detroit.

What is the timeline? When do we expect the NFL to make a decision on if there's a suspension or not? Do you have any indication on what that could be? The decision I would expect to come in today. The league rules on discipline, usually on Mondays, usually later in the day. And I would expect in this particular case, obviously the fan said some things to taunt, torment, harass, Badger, whatever word you want to use, D.K. Meccaf. But you can't do what he did to him. You can't put your hands on another fan.

Again, when you speak to people around the league and look at how the... the league has reacted and responded to any number of situations this season. The league has not been shy in doling out suspensions. And I would think most people think that they're going to wind up suspending D.K. Meccaf here

and he's not going to be able to play a game that the Pittsburgh Steelers will wind up having to win to win that division. I saw Grozzi on and say that Mike Tomlin should have pulled him from the game and benched him and put him down. We all live in a reality where no coach would ever do that. And the Steelers

wait for the NFL to basically make a decision here? Is that what we're assuming takes place? Yeah, yeah, and the legal make a decision, and I would expect that to happen today. Okay, sounds good. Speaking of decisions, there are seemingly some tough ones going forward. Go ahead, DeBud. Yeah, you know, this is the time of year we start forecasting, you know, new coaching vacancies going into the offseason. Kind of two different situations, but John Harbaugh and Baltimore, I know the Ravens fan base has been pretty loud about him, and then obviously Mike McDaniel down in Miami after that blowout loss against Cincinnati yesterday. What's the thoughts there?

I think with Baltimore, he's been such an institution there, John. It's hard for me to see whether you're talking about Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh or Andy Reid these situations going any which way other than what the coach wants it to. And I think when the coach feels like at a certain point, these guys, they're almost tenured. I know that franchises belong to the owners, but there's a certain level of respect that you get when you have done it that long, usually. And I think Baltimore, if it falls short of the playoffs, as it certainly can,

they're going to have to have the organizational meetings that they always do and move forward from there. Whatever change that means, whether that's a coaching change, whether it means a player change. But I think there's some things up in the air if this team falls short here that they're going to have to go over. Every year after the season, Steve Boshati, gets together key individuals with that organization, takes them out on their boat. They go out for a few days.

They discuss what's ahead for the organization. And I'd love to be on that boat this year to hear some of those conversations and what's going to transpire. As for Mike McDaniel, I know that people are saying he's safe. I don't think they've made any decisions there yet about his future. He might be safe, but he might not. I think that is still playing out in real time. And nothing has been decided there. And we'll see how that plays out over time.

Nothing is decided there. Okay, that's huge, obviously, for the Miami Dolph fans and the Dolpham community down there. A couple minutes left here. Conman has a question for you. Yeah, Shetty, first year head coaches, some are really good. Vrable, Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, but then some are very, very bad. Any chance, you know, we see Pete Carroll or even Aaron Glenn maybe be one and done with how miserable they've been on offense, defense, special teams, just everything across the board? I think the Jets have no intention of changing out Aaron Glenn after one.

year, I think that they like him and believe in him still, and I think he'll be given more time. When it comes to the Las Vegas Raiders, I think the year has not gone the way that everybody planned. I think all options are on the table, and I think obviously there'll be conversations there as to what happens moving forward with Pete and his future. Again, another one of those guys that I think deserves a tremendous amount of respect, and we'll see how they handle that in the offseason, but I think that one certainly is up in the air. All the coordinators have been fired over there already. Yes. Yeah. The Raider. So, I mean, that's kind of like, you know, anytime that starts happening,

it feels like they are willing to move. We love Pete Carroll as well, but we assume Tom Brady getting into ownership is not to do that or whatever happened there. Who knows what the future looks like. And for the Jets, whenever they traded away, everything in stockpiled picks, felt like that was a mention like, hey, we are moving in the air and Glenn direction. Why didn't you move yourself to Indianapolis today, huh? ESPN's not. Come on football. You could have been right here. We gave you a little seat. Right here. I didn't get invited to your studio today. Nobody invited me.

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and the Indianapolis Colts are hosting their sixth ever Monday night football game at the Lod House. We'll obviously be in attendance. We cannot wait to watch this San Francisco 49ers team who obviously has George Kittle in CMC in Brock Purdy, their own assortment of the exciting whites coming in to take on. Old Man, Rivers with a week of practice under his belt. Jonathan Taylor, the former NFL MVP conversation

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AP Tone is excited about for the Pittsburgh. Steeleers, nine-year NFL fit, Darius-J Butler's here. That's a nice, anybody else coming on, one else? Huh? Anybody else got one, too? Oh, yeah. You two coming? Sure.

I did not. Oh, all right. I did not. I don't know if, I mean, only got heat. Only playoff team. I think you do because you knocked his ass out. That's just fair ball. I like Teeling.

It's a stinger. Oh, yeah. Somebody pulled that last night. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we did. Diggs last night. Oh, I think it's a stinger, yeah. Yeah, I'm in a little tent, brother.

God, and he goes out the back door, they said. I loved how the information aggregates who are trying to get every piece of information that could potentially, you know, tear somebody down. They just admitted, Stefan Dave, snuck out the back door. That was immediate. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Love that that's even a conversation piece.

But Debutt, tonight, Niners, taking on the Colts. Obviously, five and a half point spread. They think it's a little bit less than a touchdown. The Loud House is going to be spectacular. Obviously, holiday season in Indianapolis. It should be awesome. Phil Rivers at the helm. What do you think they do against this Niners defense

led by Sala and the boys? And what do you think the Niners can do against this Indianapolis Colts defense that gets the Forrest Buckner back to you? I mean, I feel very good about our chances, especially you're already in uniform, damn near with the sweater, this helmet, seeing these jerseys. First time Philip Rivers having some fans

in the stands prime time. I like our chance. We went on to the road in Seattle, one of the most hostile environments in the NFL and now his second game with the team. He's home much more comfortable. extra day rest for that arm. I'm sure he loved that. So I like our chances. I need a big night out of Jonathan Taylor. Need a big

night out of 2-8 at home and he's delivered a bunch of big games at home. And I think we'll get a little more creative in the past game. Fast track. It's been a little more comfortable. Yep. And then on the other side, what do you think Brock Purdy and the boys can do to the Colts defense? No sauce. That was obviously talked about. Ward, I believe

not. Not playing as well. Our two number one corners out. The Forrest Buckner back though, gigantic. Huge, huge. DeFore's 99 being back in the middle of defense. be a huge, obviously, an addition to that defense. But we play well. We played great last week in Seattle. Once again, needed a walk-off field goal to win that game.

So once again, on that side of the ball, I like our chances as well. The crowd, the crowd needs to be, and then you play a row. Need to be a big part of the night. Need to show up and I think we will. What's that? It's a lot. Oh, okay. Adam Venetary, hit me in the anvil. Oh, wow. Hold the phones.

Okay. Is that breaking? I think it was. He's going to break the envelope. I think it was, I think the cold social media release it. I wonder to capitalize the V in Vinny. Probably not. We hope so, though. No chance.

For the good of the Paizan, obviously, Adam Venetary, be loved out here. Oh, yeah, legend. Stayed out here, raised his family out here. Obviously, he's Adam Vittittary. And he, yeah. Strapping young lives. Strapping middle-aged laugh.

Middle-aged loud, I believe. You're about to see a jacked Italian banged a hell out of a hammer onto an anvil, and he knows the deal. You know, there's some people that go up there. I was very lucky. I believe it was the first person ever do it. Very thankful for that.

It was a different hammer, different anvil. Now it's a completely different spot. It's actually become a pretty sick little pregame routine for the Loud House because it involves, you know, something like pretty violent. I want to go. I want to know with me on an amp. Exactly. You did well too, by the way.

You actually hit that thing. Hell you had to. Some people, I think they like, oh, this is kind of a gimmick. If you're swinging a hammer or something, a big hammer, people can see if you're swinging it or not. We're not pulling punches here. Like, let that thing, hit that thing. there's some people that I don't want to say basketball players but

oh no yeah I've seen basketball players I think the job is to just put the hammer onto the thing yeah fading away too it wasn't Tyrese okay I'm not to say the exact it was Tyrese okay our Olympic gold medalist we never do that Tyree Salver and also new shoes seem to be doing well for him he's not even playing so good for him but yeah Vinnie will be trying to break that thing so I think it should be an electrifying start need the team though to continue need giving things for people to continue to stay with it. I think that's a big deal, especially late night. We've got to work tomorrow.

Christmas for right-round quorum. There might be some boosom, maybe some tiredness, maybe some of this. So let's make sure we have a little energy on that field. Shane Steichen. Yeah, I'm going to need it early too because if they don't, you can assume all those factors will cause people to leave. But this is massive for the ticket punching. If the Colts lose, Bill's

Jags, Chargers, in the dance. Their tickets are punched if the Niners win. And Niners can still get number one seed in the NFC. Yeah, if Niners went out, they are the ones. seat. Okay, so a lot on the line tonight for both teams. Colts need to win a stay in it. And they have announced what the halftime show

is. Halftime Colts Carnival. Cheer and drumline light show featuring Red Panda and a Pogo Stick stunt team. What? I believe the Pogo Stick stunt team, actual circus act. Like, they travel. Wow. Yeah, because I don't know how well known

is. Peru, Indiana, which is in the state of Indiana. North. It's right, it's so state Indiana, it's right there inside the state of Indiana. Yeah, exactly. Everyone knows where Peru is, yeah. I think it's next to Miami, Indiana.

Yeah, it's like Northwest. Okay. Peru, India. Argentine. It's in a state. Anyways, it's like the home, I believe, of multiple circus acts, circus schools. Like Peru, Indiana is like a circus capital. Yeah, actual.

I think like a lot of people go there to potentially, this, from my understanding, this Pogo stick stunt team is a traveling carny circus stunt team. So what that means is they're going to go for it. Like, that is what they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, these things, these things like to go. They're like the Jabalakis. Yeah, what's that? They're just like the Jabalakis.

Like when you think of groups in your head that go, Jabalakis, the Peruvian, Peru, Indiana. Coco stickers. Yeah. I'm not talking like Jabalakis, I think, a little different path because I think they're like, what I'm saying is they're doing this in tents day around. Yeah, yeah.

And they're going for it. You know, and they're very experienced. A lot of reps, a lot of time. absolute dogs, from my understanding. Never seen them. Okay, never, never seen them. If you're doing pogo stick tricks, you're going crazy. Send. We're talking about it. And then you've got Red Panda.

That's going to be a part of this. And then a drumline light show happened. I never seen Red Pound on the turf. I know. I'm very intrigued. They're going to have to roll out of stage like it's, I hope they know that. What's that? She might have an ATV wheel.

She might have a little bit of a big wheel. Oh, what if she does take her little one? throws it out, all of a sudden a drum line with maybe an electric guitar. She gets this big wheel one. She hops up on top of that thing. Run the truck in. Run the shit over? Yeah, maybe the polo stick team is actually laying down.

And she rolls up as top of them. There's a chance. Or the pogo stick team pisses her off. And Red Band was like, you know what? I got my big ass wheel. I'm going to run over these little pogo sticks. What if her unicycle is a pogo stick as well? We haven't even thought about that.

We haven't even thought about her rolling And then Boin, boy, boy, oh We haven't even We haven't even thought about Have we? I mean, we haven't even thought about that. There's a chance that's,

see, that's what we're saying. It's a big one tonight. It's a big one tonight. I hope she's practiced, especially coming off the, you know, broken wrist or whatever it was because one of these Pogo stickers, they might go into business for themselves

and just say, you know, fuck it, I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go over Red Panda. We'll see if she can handle it. A bad moon salt. Yeah, exactly. I don't even think about it. a slow moon salt up over the red band.

During a bowl flip. All right. All right. Let's not so many opportunities. I know. I know. Cocktails at the bottom. You see that? I did not.

You'll probably be boozing. Our suite is going to be. It's right. We lost it. Here's the Pogo Stick team that we potentially. What? Is this who they are or is this just a team? This seems like the prominent Pogo sticks, don't the team.

That's not. So this is what possible potentially. Okay. Whoa. That would be. Oh, maybe. Okay, maybe this is... Oh! That's what we're saying.

We've got a bunch of Travis Pistrana's at halftime tonight. I like that. I like that. Okay, so tonight's a big way. They need hardwood, too. Joining us now, they need a stage as well. No, they got the Pogo's for everything. Believe me.

Talking out Huss? Yeah, just wait. There might be a claw on the bottom of one of these Pogo sticks. And if they're not getting enough, they will send someone off the top deck to go down on it. Really? Like where Blue throws the football from? Exactly. Wow, that'd be crazy if they were able to land that in spot. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, from an attic in Ohio.

He's the man who's a college football national chain. Hell, he might be a part of a halftime show tonight. I hope. Who knows, ladies of gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, AJ Hawke. Yeah, Hawker. We thought maybe cowboy hat and cowboy boots for the rest of your life with how cool you looked on Saturday. Great to see you, brother.

With this halftime show, potentially the greatest of all the time right now. We got the making. Yeah. The Peru, Indiana Pogo Stick Squad. Hey, I'm not joking. I'm a pretty legit pogo stick person. however you call, I don't know what you would call that, but my buddy's dad had these big time

like commercial Pogo sticks growing up. Yeah, they were huge, and we used to Pogo all the time for probably five, six, seven years, man. I'm on your side here. I didn't have an industrial grade Pogo stick, but I did run into one whenever I was happening around neighborhoods. You know, we're either roller skating or rollerblading or biking around, and then we'd end up in a neighborhood somewhere,

And all of a sudden, the kid would be like, well, what this kid's got? And it would be a monster pogo stick. You could really, I think I end up on a roof. I think I ended up on a roof. Or maybe it wasn't me, maybe somebody else. Somebody pogo stick landed on roof, left pogo stick, ended up on roof. They got those thick ass. Oh, yeah.

The big pogers are no joke. Like the big black ones, I'm being dead serious. It actually has a, like, bigger spring as well in the middle. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Because there are some that are like, kind of a field goal soccer corner kick stand like that's a normal pogo stick kind of thinner yeah yeah a little thinner small spring for the civilian usage yes yeah and then

there's the industrial commercial pogo sticks they're often I've been looking online for years to find the ones that my my dad's or my buddy's dad had you cannot find them anyway honestly tonight we'll try to get a contact we'll try to get a couple of these for you get someone's business card please okay we certainly will and we're excited that they're doing the show speaking of doing the show ladies and gentlemen joining us live what an honor This guy's an Emmy Award-winning television personality. He's been a part of the NFL since forever, basically. And he's been a part of our program, literally since the first day we asked.

He was at another network for a while, and then he comes over to another couple networks. Then he comes over to ESPN. Didn't forget about us, did he? This guy never forgot about us. Some other people forgot about us. Yeah. Talking to you, Dan Rolowski, choosing not to come to Indianapolis for money. I got something for you, Dan.

Yes, we do. Ladies and gentlemen, to join us for the next. next 44 minutes or so. It's Peter Shranger and the Shranger 44 minutes. Yes, Array! D-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dha-ha-dha. Look, good, Shrags.

I'm never here when you're here. I felt like righteous gemstone is coming out of there. Nice. We need to give you a little bit more lighting. Baby, Billy. Yeah, that's on us. We apologize. Remember the Pogo ball?

What's that? The Pogo ball? Does anyone know of this when we were kids? It was a ball that you would like jump around the neighborhood with like it was just like With the little hold on thing here? No, it was a, sorry with the microphone here, I'm gonna get physical.

That's right. It was a ball and there was like a little outer ring to it and you would like hop on the ball all across. I don't remember that. I don't think we. Jersey, 1980s. There it is. That thing, nothing?

Yeah, I know. I mean, that's for like infants, Shregs. It's not for anyone over 50 pounds. Yeah, all the weird kids had those. Whoa. You don't deserve that, Shrek, and neither does New Jersey. Pogo Ball. I never saw one of those things.

I am thankful for that. Shout of Tim McAfee, not bringing one of those here. No, no, that's what we had. But the Pogos, did you ever do the industrial Pogo? Not what he's talking about. Yeah, that's super thick one. It got good springs. I think we're going to see that tonight.

These guys were on America's Got Talent if I remember. I'm an AGT guy. Yeah, me too. That's a dream job. They were unbelievable when they were on age. So if it's the same guys, like, we're in for a show. With Red Panda. With, I mean.

And then a light show up. Embarrassment of riches. That's what Monday night football at Lucasol Stadium's all about. Let's ask ESPN maybe to bring it back. That'd be good at our schedule makers to do that. Speaking of the schedule, San Francisco 49ers can still get the number one seed. Obviously, the Colts need the win.

They have small chances, but still have chances to make it to the playoffs. Five and a half point dogs at home. What are you thinking about this game tonight, Trades? And thank you for coming out here. Oh, absolutely. I love being here. I went back and watched, obviously, Philip Rivers against Seattle. Guy played well, did everything you could ask for him.

The issue here is going to be, how does he feel eight days later after playing? Like, can he still move his body? Can he still get around? Can he be mobile enough? It's actually a good matchup for him. As good as the 49ers defense is, they're last in the league in sacks. They're not great on pressure in the quarterback. And if he can get to a seven-on-seven situation where he's just making a pizza in the back and just dissecting,

this is the defense to do it again. He can do it. He can do it. So, you know, you talk to the people. in the Niners' organization, not for a second. Are they like, oh, we're going to take off Philo of Rivers' his head. They are actually very fearful that if he gets comfortable in the pocket, he can dissect that defense.

Okay, I love to hear that. Obviously, we know that Jonathan Taylor can get busy, and tonight's going to be fantastic. Let's pivot away from Monday night football. Let's just talk about NFL as a whole. Seven spots secured for the playoffs coming out of this particular Sunday. Obviously, we had Thursday night, Saturday, and Sunday games.

Kind of your take on where we sit as an NFL. Five teams in the NFC are in. Two, automatic already in the AFC. What does this kind of tell you, Shregs? And what are your thoughts? The parody is great, because you have all these teams

that have not been perennial powers the last few years. I will say this. There has been sort of the excitement and the fangs at a week 17 and 18 taken out just a little bit with all these teams having already clinched and that Netflix schedule on

Trippas is awful. Geez. Awful. And you can't flex out of it. So that's awful. The Amazon game at night is awful. So NBA is back, baby. That's what it is.

is. No, I'm kidding. But it's just like, as far as like Christmas Day, there was thoughts that those matchups were going to really dictate how the playoff picture was going to be pretty much insignificant. It'll come down to week 18. I know ESPN's got two Saturday games. One of them will obviously be of great significance. Another one will be at 430. But I look at this status here. It's like, all right, we got some new logos in there. And then the teams that are going to be like the five seeds might be the Rams and the Bills, who everyone might want to just say, well, those are the teams I know. They're the ones who are going to go on the runs. Yeah. And it is. We had a thing asked the class of the league

in the first hour. It was actually our fifth headline coming out of the weekend. It's like you think about the Bears, the Patriots, the Panthers, and the Jags. It's like last year, 4 and 13 or whatever it was. This year, kind of leading in the way, that's a beautiful thing for the league as a whole, but it is tough for schedule makers

to get Christmas right whenever they're trying to project what teams are going to matter. Nobody could have thought it was going to be these four. Yeah, no shot. Especially when you're thinking about first year head coaches and just what that success typically looks like. That is the cool thing about the last two weeks, though, is all the seeds

are up for grabs. Yeah. Like, nobody has a division locked up and nobody has any of the seeds locked up. Like, there's a situation where tonight, I mean, the six seed is the Niners and they might be the one seed. And then if you look at the AFC side as well, like the Broncos haven't even won the division yet, and

still they're kind of the, you know, runaway first team to clinch in the AFC. Like, that will be what's interesting these last couple weeks is who's going to get that first round by? If the 49ers were to win out, and they've got this game, they've got the Bears, they've got the Seahawks. They will not have to play a single game outside of SoFi after tonight. They've got two home games left regular season.

They would clinch the NFC West. And then there's never been a team because I know the Buccaneers and Rams did it, but they didn't do it as one seeds that went the entire distance through the playoffs and won a Super Bowl in their own building. That's on the table for the 49ers. And I challenge anybody to go Google the 49ers depth chart, name four of their defenders right now. Yeah, sounds like Shanahan should be up for coach of the year. You would think.

And yet you don't hear his. name anywhere in the conversation because everyone wants... It feels like that's a new coached thing. Yeah. Doesn't it feel like it's kind of like you graduate into being an NFL coach? Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, and then maybe Mike Frable for bringing back the Patriots in a way that he has. Well, if Shane Steichen's able to get the boys

into playoffs. Okay. McDonald's. Yeah. Absolutely. McDonald out there in Seattle. I mean, Shanahan being able to do this, as soon as we saw Warner and Bosa go down, I think we as a show, and we apologize to the Niners' faithful, naturally, you're like, okay,

they're dead. Purdy too. Yeah, Purdy was all banged up. Pardy was all banged up. Mac Jones was playing. It's like, are they moving on for Brock Purdy? They're dead. No, Iyuk.

Oh, he was driving by. He was a Saturday. He's going to wait too fast. Yeah, he's doing some dumb. Hufanga and Dre Greenlaw signed with Denver. Those were two defensive leaders. Like, I'm telling you, go look at their depth chart. There are names that are not household names that are going to be asked to play huge roles late.

And that's why a Colts need to pull them away. That's why names we know, Phil Rivers. Yeah, you know them. Okay, Jonathan Taylor, ever heard of them? Yeah, star-studded Colts team needs to put this Niners team away. But the thing that sucks about that is it feels like their offensive style and system is going to create yards regardless, especially at Brock Purdy. They got George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey. Those two might be the dynamic duo that maybe the league can't stop for the eternal time as long as they stay healthy.

And on defense's side, Sala became the head coach of the Jets because of how damn great he is. He falls right back into place. They got players that are NFL talent. They'll be able to take care of business is how they view it. And they certainly have. And if they get the number one seed in the NFC, I mean, definitely warranted of Coach of the Year conversation. AJ has a question for you, Shregs, over there in Ohio.

Hey, buddy. Yes, Shregs, you mentioned Liam Cohn. The Jaggs went into Denver, got a huge win on the road yesterday. I guess what are your thoughts on them heading into a possible, like, playoff push? All right. So there's X's and O's, and then there's, like, personality of a team and vibe of a team. No team has leaned into the nobody believes in us narrative, and the small market, no one wants us here narrative.

more than this version of the Jaguars. And Liam is 100% the rider of that bus. Sean Payton, most innocuous comment last week, says, I know a lot of people haven't seen them. They're a small market team. Oh, I didn't know that was in response. Oh, yes.

That was Sean Payton said that. And I talked to Sean. He didn't know it. He wasn't thinking to like, Liam took that, showed that to the team, showed it to the social media account. And then they go and they do their thing. Two weeks ago, Trevor Lawrence,

they beat the cults. Trevor Lawrence says, I know everybody else in the national media wants to talk about other teams in our own division because everyone was raving about the Texans after their Thursday night win against the bills. He's like, we're fine with that. We know nobody wants us here.

So you've got all these guys that are now leaning into this, hey, we're just the 30-second market in the NFL. No one wants us. We're not going to be on anyone's radar, and they're actually embodying that. And that is such a vibe thing, but that is a first-year coach with a young staff. Their defensive coordinator,

a guy named Anthony Campanelli, Jersey guy, total, like, hype-up defensive coordinator, years old. Their offensive coordinator, Grant Yudinsky, 29 years old. Liam's 38. Their GM's 34. It's a bunch of young guys who have this young team believing. It's one of those deals where it's like it could just be

one of these runaway, charismatic bandwagon, us against the world teams, which we get... For a long time. Yeah, well... Yeah, for a long time. Many years. Many years. As you're laid it out, I don't love what that does for a team. What you were just saying there. And obviously,

the Colts got Niners, Jags, and Texans down the stretch can still do it. Jags can still do it, and Texans can still do it. Trevor Lawrence are playing his best ball. Unbelievable. I mean, we forgot he's a stallion when he runs. Like, he's gigantic and he can stride his ass out. He's big, he's spinning it.

Liam's got him believing. And you talk about him talking about national media. They're definitely showing our clips, huh? Mm-hmm. We're definitely in there. Well, we, we, we, we. Are we, we. Tell the tape.

Yeah. We changed Liam. Yeah, whenever he was going to fight. Who is he going to fight? Who is he going to fight? Salah. Oh, yeah. Bob Sala.

Keep my name out of your mouth, bitch. Yeah, and then hold back. Yeah. That's all part of it, though. Like, that was week three or something, and that led into all this. And big game for Trevor yesterday, and Parker Washington steps up, but Sartan handled Brian Thomas yesterday. Like, he didn't, and then they had seven other receivers make plays.

And that was a major deal for the Jaguars. Like, who else is going to beat you? Well, they spread the ball out, and they had backup offensive linemen in. Like, they won a really good game against a team that hadn't lost since last year. at home. And Shraggs, this is something that they've been talking about for years down there, but more specifically this past off season. I felt like the Jags had a lot of high hope, especially from ownership.

Well, I was just going to say sorry, and I was not prepared for that. No, no. I was going to go. L. You, don't get home. He had belief in Liam Cohen and Stoner. Like, he actually did have belief in Liam Cohen and Stoner and let them make massive trade. I mean, the Travis Hunter trade is one of the most

boldest, brazen decisions to ever make. Huge. You're trading up three spots next year's first round pick with your thought being because we're not going to have a top five pick again. That pick's not going to be a top five pick. We're so confident in our roster that we can give you that first round pick. And then we're going to take a cornerback slash wide receiver second overall positions that do not go second overall. Yeah, he's injured. But like that move, that roll the dice, that's a belief in what we have in the building. And they talk about expanding football. And you talk about being young. It's like they got big dreams, big hopes,

high expectations down there already. And for the Colts, obviously, not great news because we don't know what the future looks like in pretty important positions, you know, numerous ones, and we don't have a lot of picks in the draft, you know, but boy, this could be the best Jacksonville Jaguars team of all time. And I think that's something that's very special. And congrats for Trevor Lawrence. He's had to sit in the pocket, literally and figuratively, while everything has been happening around him that is not good. 14 touchdowns, zero turnovers, the last four games for Trevor Lawrence, 77.something QBR, the best stretch that they've had. Six-game win streak, never in Jacksonville.

Do you even consider that? And you talk about shot. Con. Yeah, lights out in the Red Zone. I apologize. Go ahead. Lights out in the Red Zone last few weeks, but Denver was by far the best Red Zone defense and he went four or five yesterday, which is unreal. Yeah, so that's smaller. Everything like you need your quarterback to play better is down there in the Red Zone. So whenever you see high success, that's also indicative of what it could happen in a playoffs whenever you're playing great defenses, let alone him playing one right here. Shod Khan, though, the owner, this guy found in bumpers.

Yep. Okay. I was just created bumpers as a whole. One of the best mustache is in the history of just humans. His young. I think is spectacular as well. Good for him. He's worked for it. But he has invested in this team as soon as he got it. We need fans to come and enjoy this. Let's put a couple pools in here. Drops a couple pools. Hey, we need to hire this. We need to build a new city. We need a Jaguar City within downtown. You got it. I'll do the entire thing. Like, he was all in on having a winner in the NFL for a long, long time. And now there's not even a consideration of kicking them out of Jacksonville to go to London. That was the

convo for a long time. Good for Sean. Who's really been going for it for a long time? Yeah, and good for Trevor, because how many of these early-round quarterbacks do we just crap on in the media and crap? And then it just destroys them. And Trevor Lawrence just sat back there, didn't lash out at one time, just kind of stood in the pocket, like you said, and has been unbelievable to you. I know we do the MVP talk, and it's all Stafford and Drake May. There's an argument to be made. You want to talk about taking a franchise from the dregs and lifting them up on your back and taking them to where they are.

Trevor Lawrence has been unbelievable this season. Good for Trevor, man. That was a lot of pressure coming into the league. I mean, going into college, a lot of pressure. Went into Clems. Top high school guy, top college guy. Going into the league, everybody shut down basically their facilities to watch his pro day.

Like, this was the chosen one, and then it goes how it goes down there since the beginning, and now he's playing his best ball, and he looks accurate as shit. Yeah. Like, there used to be some misses. No offense, Trevor. Used to be some misses that didn't look great,

which I think J.J. McCarthy should be like, hey, there is potentially an end goal here that can happen. But he would miss some crosser or some easy one. Maybe it was just him not being confident in the throw. Now he's got an offense. He's completely confident in playing his best ball. Good for Trevor Lawrence. All right, let's pivot to some other stuff happening around the league.

Another AFC team. Go ahead, DeBusch. Yeah, out west, I feel like the Chargers are kind of flying under everyone's radar. A5 and O in their division, 8 and 2 in the AFC. And Herbert just had a big game yesterday, another 300-yard game against the Cowboys. What's your thoughts on the Chargers? Can they make a run in the playoffs? Yeah, they could still be the one seed.

They still have a shot if they can beat the Broncos and they could finish out the season and the Broncos lose twice. There's still a chance for them. They need some help. Herbert yesterday was awesome. Remember, this is a situation where Joe Walt went down. Obviously, they lost Slater in the offseason

and everyone just kind of was like, all right, well, they've got no shot. They're winning. Now they're winning with guys like Marion Hampton healthy again. And Quentin Johnson played big yesterday. All these guys that they've drafted early on, lad. They're all healthy now and they're all playing. And Justin Herbert is as good as anybody when he's dialed in. So the Monday night game was huge.

And then you win this one here, quiet team because of obviously you think of them as a second team in Los Angeles, whatever it is. I don't know. They win games and Harbaugh's a damn good coach. I'd say, and Justin Herbert's a good guy. He is a good guy. Did you hear him say? He says, heads please, tails please, because he thinks karma

is real and he's being a good guy. That wasn't the convo that I've been hearing about Justin Herbert, just because he didn't want to sign some other teams fans, anything, okay? Justin Herbert, good guy. Was that even him? Who knows? People are holding it against them, though. Yeah, yeah. And there's people holding it against it for real.

Anybody who thinks karma's real probably has fallen ill to karma at some point for some reason. Well, Justin Herbert says, hey, listen, I would like to let the football gods know that when I'm picking heads or tails, I would like to be nice to. Hey, heads, please. He's asking the coin. And he also said, check the record. We've been winning a lot of coin tosses, which is obviously quite an advantage. I like the Chargers team as well. I like everything about it.

I like the way Jim Harbault goes into a place, changes the culture. on the field, punching every offense alignment for a great drive. And then my man Minter going after the defensive coordinator also super fired up. Both those guys, Michigan guys, like they came together. It was the whole deal. It feels like they got a real family over there, and we saw their facility.

Oh, yeah. What do they call it? It's like Bolt. The Bolt. Whatever it is, it's the nicest I've ever seen. A1. It paid 300 million for that then. In 2024, 2025 in Los Angeles to build a brand new facility. It's sick. The Bolt, yeah, it's like Look at Connor. That's right. Yeah, great time.

I will say everything is great. The seats in the restaurant below. They need new... It's not a restaurant. No, no, it's not a private club. Oh, you're talking about the... Above where you can watch. Yeah, where season ticket holders can go and watch.

If you're a season ticket holder, I don't know how you go and sit down and not say like, oh, okay, I'm never coming back because the booth is just miserable. But aside from that, I mean... For the football ops. Yes, it's amazing. With the cafeteria and everything. It was going...

Ice cream. Oh, the cup. Coffee ice cream. It was good ice cream. Chimmed every day. We're cooking pizza. Oh, pizza. Was it for real?

Golf sim. Golf sim. Yeah, it was, first of all, they allowed us all access. This is pretty cool. This is good video. And we took advantage for, thank you. This would be a nice series. Pat and the boys visit all 32 facilities, all access.

So that's the thing. There's a lot of facilities that would not want us to showcase how ass it is, which goes back to the report card, which is they're trying to get off the public. I'd be at least a B plus. Yeah, we'll go through the old report card, you know, because theirs are going to be gone. Like the top 10. Yeah, exactly. Go check it out. Whatever the case, we appreciate how much they're invested in ball and how much they've seemingly invested in the culture.

They seemingly all the way back. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, you mentioned, you know, crapping on rookie quarterbacks and kind of just for dead. Like, that's exactly what happened with Carolina, Bryce Young and everything that's going on there. And now, you know, they're on the doorstep of the playoffs. What do you think is going to happen in the NFC South? And also, what's going on in Tampa? You know, 10 weeks ago, we were talking about Baker winning the MVP.

They were the cardiac kids. And now, like, they just look like a shell of themselves. Yeah, it's as low as it's been in Tampa in probably three, four years right now. And talking to folks there, they're confused because they have all four healthy wide receivers now. They've got back Mike Evans. They got back McMillan. They have everybody. Abuka, who looked like he was going to be the offensive rookie at a year, first six weeks of the season, had one catch yesterday.

and they only threw to them, I think, twice. All the things that they were excited about getting back the last two weeks has gone terrible. They've lost to now the Saints, the Falcons, and the Panthers in three straight weeks. The Falcons game, I think, was the worst loss any team suffered all season. The Falcons had 19 penalties against them and still won without Drake London after being eliminated in Tampa. So morale is out at all time.

And yet, if they win out and they beat Carolina and Carolina loses one more game, it's like Tampa's in the playoffs and they're hosting a playoff game for the fifth straight year. Yeah, and we still have faith in Baker. It feels like any time it gets on there. Him and Mike Evans being on the exact wrong page here in the most crucial play to end it is obviously good for Carolina, bad for Tampa. But to your point, they could still host a playoff game down there in Tampa.

And Carolina could host a playoff game. Yeah. It was packed out. It was actually, I think Gamsch might have posted or sent it into the group. It was packed in there. And the reaction from like the up top mezzanine or whatever in that stadium was one of those things you watch it almost get chills. I'm not kidding. Like, it was on, I was watching, and I know it's not like, you know,

Burkhart and Brady and Aaron Andrews and Rinaldi. It's not like that kind of like, you could hear the broadcat. You could hear the building. Oh, yeah. It's been years since Carolina has had that. Maybe since Cam was the quarterback where, like, there's actual juice in that building yesterday. Yeah, they love bald down there, just been waiting for a reason. Yeah, Cam's number one target, too.

Greg Oster was on the drum. They keep pounding drum. Oh, I didn't know that. Which is a chance. Saturday, I get it. What's that? They chants key. pounding keep pounding i didn't know that that's like a thing inside the stadium i just thought

there's some dumb hashtag they made great on the call by the way yeah great on any call that he's on and uh keep pounding we have a sound panther tight end adding to the atmosphere start of the fourth quarter you know it's a big game when greg olson shows up called the game on fox yesterday and to start the fourth quarter I don't know if they do it while they're doing the drum they do it while they're playing while they're playing yeah while they're playing

oh I thought it was during the drum oh no I don't know if they do it during the drum like the fans just naturally do the keep pounding it was incredible yeah it was Sam Mills I like that and also that lower shot that we had of Baker I think before that final play the back shot

that stadium looks like it goes up like yes I got a chance to play there I don't remember it being like a crazy environment. Now, granted, Mikey Carcare Bowl certainly brought the juice. And the Mayo Bowl certainly does as well. But nothing's like a Carolina Panthers game, I assume, whenever they're humming. That looks like a little gladiator type

vibe in there. Are they going to have a real humpfitting event? Are they going to host a playoff game down there? Look at that. That shit looks like it's straight up. Yeah. That's a tight shot right here. Now, ESPN usually gets a 4-5 matchup on that Monday Night Wild Card game, and it's usually 4-5 and you wait for the rest of the team's

play. Then the winner obviously plays the one seat. If Carolina's the four, it'll be either them or wherever the AFC's team likely hosting a playoff game on Monday night football. So it could be cool. We might have to get everyone down there. Yeah, I might have to get the squad down to Charlotte there. I think you don't go downtown. You go uptown there? I believe in Charlotte. And they got a great happy hour scene because I think it's like a big banking town. So happy hour, from my understanding, every time I've been down there, fantastic. I was there this summer

and it was for a friend's birthday, whatever we fly in. And there was a soccer game FC Charlotte Charlotte and the streets were packed I'm like this is it felt like I was in Europe great hosting great town great sports town and close everything's kind of yeah yeah and they got that entire plaza area that goes straight up that's got a lot of bars and restaurants and that's where Dale Earnhardt Jr's bar whiskey river was yeah it was I think they had how at the moon on the fourth floor wow yeah they had Dale Earnhardt's bar on a third for NASCAR Hall of Fame. NASCAR Hall of Fame is in Charlotte

and it is close drive obviously. The hotel we were staying and had a walking bridge to Dale Earnhardt Hall at the Moon's place. So that was lethal. Yeah. That was pretty problematic for a bowl week. We had a good time and we won. So we'll just keep it moving

and act like it didn't happen. Dale Earnhardt's a whiskey river place. It's been good to me over the past. I appreciate. Foxy, I think you've even been there, right? Yeah, that was absolutely insane. That place is awesome. like you said, attached right to the hotel. How can you not walk into that place? Yeah, they got a bull in there.

They do the whole gimmick. Oh, yeah. Shout out three. They got to all you. Shout out three and it's boy. Praise hell, praise him. That's right. Amen.

Miss you three. Love you, three. You know who we miss right now as well? Chiefs being in conversation. Now I just got Travis Kosci on his podcast. As a lot, you know, meaningful football games, not really. Man, they go from, are we still a dynasty to, we just lost the fucking Titans?

That's what the chiefs are at right now. Not even lost. And who knows if the dynasty is delayed, we'll obviously see that in the future. But right now they go, chiefs go from, oh, we still got Patrick Mount. Injuries, injuries, injuries. Two weeks later, losing to the Titans in Nashville. And now everybody's just saying his team's dead, they're done so. It's a shame.

They're not the only ones, though. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shreg's, a lot of people gave you a lot of gruff once you said the Lions are not going to the file. 15 and 2 last year. 15 and 2. What are you talking about, Shreger? Trayder, you're, shut up. Shut up, Peter.

Shush. Who is this? Who is this buffoon? Yeah, God, did you get off of my TV? Welcome to ESPN, shush. Yeah, yeah. Quit that ESPN, malarkey, okay? You're just making shit up now.

Turns out, you pissed on all those lions, people's faces for a reason. You were right. They are going to miss the playoffs. They're 10 and 7 right now. Packers beat, you know, Snoop Huntley, maybe Lamar on Saturday. Packers are in. Lions go home crying. What the hell happened?

The Chiefs are one thing, injuries, even though it looks as though, you know, injuries in Andy Reed's culture, they got pummeled by the Italians very weird. Let's forget about that for a second. What the hell happened with the Lions? Where do the Lions go? It didn't just, you know, happen overnight. Obviously, they still have a lot of their pieces, but a lot of their things, you know, trenches kind of fell apart. What do you think happens?

I thought yesterday it was a microcosm of their entire season. You have a fourth down early in this game. Fourth and three. Dan Campbell, we're going to go for it. Let's roll the dice. Stopped, turnover on downs. They were last year, seventh in the league and conversion rate on fourth down, and we praised them for it, grit.

They were 21st in the league right now, and yet they still go for it every time. You know, we talk about grit and talk about the trenches and how we go. 17 play, 68-yard drive, Steelers, Jalen Warren, just running it down their throat. I think they ran three offensive plays in the third quarter. And they had 15 yards rushing, their lowest total, since 1970. yesterday. So that's all at home. And Foxy, I'm, I know. I wasn't trying to like make a big splash on ESPN. You had to pick teams. And a lot of times what we get in my world is, all right, who are you going to pick in the Super Bowl? So you pick two teams and no one cares. What I like to do is tell me you're 14, because not all 32 can make it.

And you're going to have 16 or, I don't know, what's the math? 32, 32 minus 14. 18, maybe. 32 minus 18. 14. No, 32 minus 14. 18 is 14. So 18 fan bases are going to be like, shut up. You're wrong. I can't, the Lions, I didn't see it this year because of Ben Johnson and because of that interior offensive line play that they let go of a lot of veteran players and I'm not celebrating it and it's not over yet.

Well, but yesterday. You should, you should take a victory lap right now. Today's the day to take your victory. No, you should. No, but the Lions fans are coming after you, great. You know what that guy in the blue hair would have said to you? Oh, my gosh, allegedly, allegedly. Go ahead, Evan.

Oh, no. I was just going to say, like, you took it on the shins all season long. I thought you were wrong. And honestly, the only thing about us not making the playoffs that makes me really angry is that you were right. And so that really pissed me off. I'm sorry. But you deserve it. You learned it.

Back to what Connor said, you kind of did piss on her faces with that. I will say this. You know, you get the freezing cold takes. You get all these sites when you make a wrong prediction. I checked my phone this morning or yesterday. Not a sick. There's millions people who just tweet me heinous, awful, hateful things. I didn't get one person say

that you were running the Lions. That's just the game we play. That's the game. That said, not looking for a pat on the back. And I would also add this, that that team, they've got a good quarterback. They could be right back next year.

But yesterday was a terrible loss, and you could blame the refs all you want. At no point in that game, did you feel like the Lions had it? And on that note, it looked like the same old lies. And that's scary for me, because obviously I'm very close with Foxy

and what his life was like is the same old lines I want to win 10 games and win a playoff game that was all it was and then now it's like we're winning at Super Bowl and then Shrag said no you're not even going to make the playoffs and it's like this guy's this guy's out to get us this guy's out to get us

their expectations became Super Bowl team and then now it's like had transition had turnover obviously not having your best year will you guys be back next year I think so whether you're the shepherd with D coordinator I think Philadelphia had to do it there for a little bit at one year, a new coordinator, and then they were able to get after it.

I believe in Dan Campbell. I believe in their building. I believe in Jared Gough, if he has time, can be a guy. Like, I believe in that type of shit. You guys get a lot of injuries up there, bad timing injuries, and then you're going to have to go and prove it yet again to everybody, because if not, you're the same. Old lions.

And that sucks, dude. I don't like that for you guys at all. 100%. And just stay on the positive side, I'm viewing this as the 2023 Eagle season, where they just look clunky all season long. they come back next year, they win the Super Bowl. That's what I'm hoping for.

Because our marquee guys played great all season long. Golf was great. Gibbs was great. St. Brown was great. Jamo great. Hutch great. All of our guys that got paid had been playing great, except Kirby Joseph, who was hurt all season long. So hopefully we stay healthy next year and MCDC rallies them. And with MCDC, like the thing that gives me faith in the lines,

Brad Holmes, like they pick the right guys. They have their culture and they pick dudes that come in and make an impact right away. like Tate Ratlidge, I believe. Isaac Tesla, who hopefully will come back next year even better. Like, they do pick dudes that make them better. So I feel like that's just like Howie in Philly. Like, that is a huge reason.

Brad Holmes took a running back and an inside linebacker with two first round picks a few years ago. And it was Jemir Gibbs and Jack Campbell. You better believe they got killed for those picks. I'm sure enough they're two of the best players. Iowa guy, Jack Campbell. And Almond Raw, too. Like, Jamo. Yeah, I think we all have faith.

Let's go to the other side. Obviously, let's go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The situation between D.K. and the fan, I don't know what you're... No, I mean, Adam said it. Like, the league usually comes out today and says this guy's been suspended for X amount of games, but there's two sides to every story. I hate it. I hate it from every side of it.

I hate it we're talking about it because there was such good football over the weekend. It certainly was. And this is not good. Can't happen. Obviously, what is being alleged can't happen either. So the NFL will make a ruling on this, and then everything else will kind of follow through. But we don't like this, okay?

We don't like any part of it. This is not what ball is. We do like fans that talk a lot of shit. We do like players that have a lot of pride. We can't be doing this stuff. For a good of ball. For a good of ball, can't be happening. And we'll be excited to see what the story is if we ever find out.

You think we ever? D.K. might tell us a side of his story at some point. Allegedly he has, allegedly he talked to Dibo too. I believe Debo and Joe have a, Joe, Hayden, have a podcast. Debo said the same thing that Ocho said on Nightcap. Ocho said he talked directly to D. as well, but we have not heard directly from D.K. or the Pittsburgh Steelers

and what the assumption is, have not talked to either party or heard from either party, that they will wait for the NFL to kind of set the course on help. If that's the same guy as Pelliserro tweeted, like followed him to Seattle to talk smack, like that's... It's certainly an interesting story. That seems a little awesome. But I think everybody's just kind of waiting on the

NFL because it's an NFL game and an NFL building, but certainly optically, not good. No. You would assume that someone around there has a cell phone video that you can actually hear. What is being said if it's not already being... Because we saw the... I think Busson posted at first.

A kid named Alex... The one right next to it. Down the side where it... This one here? Yeah, this one, I believe, is from a kid named Alex. I think I saw Bussam posted. I'm not 100% sure. But, like, yeah, that one showed

that it wasn't a punch that... Because the original shot from the front looked like it was a punch in the face. It's like, yo, D.K.'s punching a fan in the face. That's fucking very... This shot here. This angle's not good. That's very great. That one does not look good. And then you see from the side, well, actually,

it was a shirt grab where there is some physicality and he throws a shirt back. I mean, if that guy with the blue hair just moves his head to the right, that is certainly a punt, but not good. Any of it will wait to hear what the NFL is to say? And will there be more footage that comes from it? Or audio, we assume that could be, but will we ever see it? We don't know.

Just can't happen, especially the whole day's season. That's right. All his season. Now, on the flip side of that, big-time win for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Coach Tallman gets his 200th win. Wow. Pittsburgh Steelers, 19 consecutive non-losing seasons. and back in the driver's seat of everything they want.

Let's head over to hammer. Don't Don't. A. P. Tone has a question for you, Shregs. Yes, I do. Shregs, obviously a great win yesterday, almost 500 yards, 230 yards, rushing 15 yards, given up on the grounds of that Lions team. They only gave up 60 last week to the dolphins on the ground. So everyone's playing really good, and you talked about that Monday night football game between a four and five C. The Steelers are in that spot right now. Shreg, is this a year that, you know, the Steelers can potentially.

potentially get back to an AFC championship and restore glory in a burgh. Oh, mama. I'm in here for my life from the long arm of the long. We're not too far removed from Yenzer's booing that now. There's real optimism shakes. Well, there are a couple bounces away right now from being a division winner for the first time since 2020. Hosting a playoff game. and right now as it plays out,

Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills would be the ones in the building for that first wild card game. Uh-oh. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are we sure? No, I think it's the Chargers, right? Yeah, yeah, it keeps changing because I was on the same

as you last Monday and I was wrong, but I guess the Chargers are five. Oh, last night I went to bed, maybe it was okay. No, it's weird. Where's Kornacki say? It's weird, man, I don't know. What's Kornacky got? See, there, yeah, there it is.

All right, I'm sorry. They got Phil's sick. It's weird. Yeah, but it can all, that could happen. That's possible. Yeah, that he certainly is possible. Sorry, that was such a buildup and then it was a fell flat.

No, no, no, no. Still possible, though. It was still very much an outcome that's going to take place. Here's the same person, yeah, just from the left of the matter. We're going to talk about Philip Rivers being 44 and what an amazing accomplishment is. Rogers was awesome yesterday at 42.

Rogers was amazing. They had nine different third and fourth down conversions yesterday. Rogers was incredible under pressure, like five of eight, I think, when he had the pass splits coming on him. He was unbelievable yesterday, and at 42 years old, maybe it's a story also. If Ritvers wasn't doing what he's doing, hey, this is possible also. So they are all on the same page. They're feeling good.

I love this team right now. AJ, with the pass bullets coming on them, what do you think? I'm sorry. Okay, come on. I'm sorry. All right, what do we say, Paul? Sorry. No, no, no, no.

Yeah, he is. Yes, yes, that is. That is. But Aaron does seem very comfortable, confident in enjoying this particular offense at this point, AJ. Yeah, he does. I mean, watch him. You can see him walking off the field last night with Tomlin and Cam Hayward and Tom was just gassing them both up. They're so excited about the big win. I mean, I don't know if you guys like, yeah, this here, this is awesome. But that game did not look great for the Steelers. Like, it looked like, okay, the Steelers should have won this one. Oh, no, they lost it. Here we go. Lions are going to find a way to win. And then the bizarre situation that ended. So I think they're super happy they've got to win. And with every single win, your confidence grows. And that trickles down throughout the rest of the team. I mean, Coach Tomlin beating his chest on a way out while they're talking shit. I love that.

Yeah, I am a big. He's talking shit to local media. Yeah, Brooke Pryor, ESPN, NFL reporter for the Pittsburgh Steelers. She's been around the Steelers for a long time during a large portion of this. What? She's been multiple years. She's not from there, but yeah, a couple years. Okay, but that is A.P. Don, who's obviously Pittsburgh Steelers diehard fan,

who watches as a Steelers' fans' lens and everything. brook scott do her job we respect and appreciate her but she has been around for a while so she knows a lot and she's also been there for a lot of the winning seasons but not a lot of winning playoffs and then obviously a lot of different situations so anytime you're doing that local report just like mark a bully every once while you can let something fly and the entire team sees you there was a time in Indianapolis where one of the local writers basically said Chuck should be fired and he needs to be fired and then that person walked in the locker room like the next day and everybody was like hey we don't talk to this fucking like that that is that That is not how this whole thing is going. So the local reporters certainly have a little bit more of a chance to be seen by the team, I think. Well, they're there every day. Every day and they're talking about it. But if you do say anything that is negative towards the team, it can certainly be bundled as a package for motivation for everybody.

And sometimes they let you know about it, and sometimes it's just being talked about in the team meeting. It's a delicate dance. It's easy to be the cheerleader when you're the local person and say everything's great. It's really hard to go out there and sometimes be the next. negative voice. So you put yourself out there, you're going to have to fear the wrath because you have to actually walk in the building. Yeah, but you're a hero

to the fans, though. Yes. You know, so you want to hear that. Yeah, you're kind of celebrated out in public, but then whenever you show up to work, you know, there's people that are waiting there. The Chador conversation in Cleveland's fascinating right now. Okay. Because I think the local media is something to watch as far as, like, the talk radio guys, they could say

you've got local beat reporters in there and the fan base all seemingly wants Chador. And then it's are you reporting? Are you giving your opinion? Are you, because the truth of the matter is, I talk to people in Cleveland. I don't have any assurance that Shador's the guy moving forward, yet he is playing very

well. And now the next few weeks are going to play out, and as a local media member, it's, okay, am I giving the information, or am I giving my thoughts, my opinion, or am I giving something where it's this is what the fans want to hear? It's a delicate tense every single day with a quarterback like that. Journalistic, what's it called? What do they

say? Standards. Yeah, journalists. The generalistic standards, I was asked about, yeah, what about it? You know, tell me about this content-driven world where we all hear everything. Everybody says, what's this, what's that, who are you making happy? What things are you leaving out of the conversation just purposely because of might be an easier landing of the plane? I mean, there's a lot of shit going on right now in reporting as a whole, but certainly in the biggest stories like Chador and Cleveland. I just gave Chador as an example. It could be any of the thing. That's a great example. That's a great example, that's a great example.

Especially in Cleveland, because we haven't really cared about anybody talking. or what they say in Cleveland or people watching the games or anything like that. But every post-game press conference, it seems like he has to be the grown-up in the room and answer the question. Like, it's like, hey, was this the right decision

to go for it or fourth or two? Should have been a wildcat of two-point conversion into Chador's credit. Just like I talked about Caleb earlier, he handles things like a 10-12-year event. It's the same with Shadourn. He's kind of been under that spotlight for his whole life.

His family, obviously, reality television, they have been for a decade plus now. I remember watching, you know, Coach Prime and reality TV was must watch, but this guy's rolling around on a scooter in his house doing, I mean, it was a great show. Then they obviously carried that into

the digital market. It becomes a profession for, I believe Dion Sanders Jr., like this is full-time job is like a production company for their reality show, and people will be like, that's not a real job. It's like, well, how come reality show production companies can profit off of families, but families are allowed to do it themselves? Like, it's

actually a full business for them. So whenever they were doing that all for a fifth round pick, and whenever he was walking into the stadium and they had the cameras, this is at the beginning of the season, I think us and many people were like, okay, hey, hey, we got to read the room a little bit. They did. Remember, he was given answers at, like, the car dealership where he, like, meaned it, and that was like, we thought hilarious content, but also, like, hey, if you want to be quarterback of this team, like, that's not the shit. And they, he's completely stopped all that shit. I mean, like, when you talk about trying to be committed to

becoming, like, what the starter should look like for the Cleveland Browns with all the other side show shit that I think people were kind of holding against them, it feels like he's kind of tried to do it. He's been great. Now, he's made rookie mistakes. I'm talking about the way he's handled all this. He's been great. And his answers. Like, he hasn't sacrificed his authenticity while not burying anybody seemingly in the process. I think

he has handled it. Now, do the Cleveland Browns move forward with what they've seen potential from the rookie quarterback? I guess that's the big question, but it's like there's a rightful, positive conversation about Shador Sanders and the Cleveland Browns. Because, to DeButt's point, it's must watch. Okay, you're

at least going to check in with what they're doing. I was Garrett on the sack hunt, and Shador Sanders on the offensive side. So if you're running a business, is that what you want? Is that what you don't want? I think it's a good thing for the Cleveland Browns. And if he's able to figure it out, you've got a superstar. You've got a megastar as your starting quarterback, which every owner, I think, is wanting in this world. And paying him fifth round money.

Yes. Like on a discount, like on a huge discount. Yeah. So it's a fascinating. Who's making that decision, though, Shregs? Who makes the decision if Shador is the guy moving for? It would be the GM and the owner and then the head coach, if, you know, Cefanski, which I think he's still around is going to have a huge voice.

He's an offensive coach, so we shall see. I mean, it doesn't cost you anything to keep a fifth round pick on that roster. And to your point, Deshawn Watson is lurking, and they're paying him money still, too. Lurkey. Lurkey. Lurking, go work. I saw some videos of him. Was he working out?

I saw him, yeah. I mean, it looks cool, too. He had a sweet thing. 160 million guaranteed or whatever. Congrats. Still for, like, next, what, two years? No, I think he's got the Benia deal. That thing's probably paying him to 26.

Yeah, there's a chance. That's just going forever. And once again, got to give a shout out. Moolgette is the one. You want college, I want big deluxe in her. Jimmy Sexton. I would like him. He knows where all money is.

He knows where. That voice. I would like Jimmy Sexton to be the one if I'm doing college football. In the NFL, if I'm a player right now at one of those high positions, it's like you would like Muligata to be the one walking into that room. Because there is no history other than, yeah. Yeah, my guys get the most. That is what we're doing around here.

And he does. He's going to have every position. Knock down whenever it's all said and done. And Sean Watson was to want to open our eyes to Moligeth's real. In the middle of all this, the biggest of all time, what is this guy doing? Guaranteed. Is he a magician? Like, is he actually hypnot?

Do you think he does the, because the deals he gets is like the best deal that you could possibly get or ever fathom at that position? It's like Mologeta has pulled that home. For the record. And the Cleveland Browns are paying for it. If that didn't work, if it would have worked with Deshaun, you're talking to everybody having to do that at the quarterback position. That's just a fact, I think, personally. But since it hasn't gone well, there's still a lot of...

Lost in that story, Carolina would have done it, Atlanta would have done it, Saints would have done it. It was not just one team. This wasn't a one-horse market. It was four different teams, and there was a market created for Deshaun Watson. And allegedly, right, Cleveland Browns were told no. Yep. And then that's when they came back with it.

Is that right? How about that sound? And then all the very serious stuff. And the Texans on the other side of it. They got all that stuff from Cleveland, and they're the Texans again. Stroud and Willis. Yeah, in one draft. Pretty good.

Pretty good back-to-back picks. That's how Jerry was scared to talk to him. I'll tell you what. Dallas Cowboys. Nope. I'll get into it. That's a whole other story. Yeah, it is.

We did a whole day. That was the first time that name was mentioned. Wow. I don't know, you could do that. You like to do that? Here? No. You've been doing the hosting.

We've been watching the host. You've been doing well. I love it. You've been enjoying that? It's fun. Dude, it's been great. It's been fun. I think you've been kicking ass this year.

Thank you for saying that. Legit, I think you've been doing a good job. Trying to find my spots. When they drop you into host, you feel very comfortable. But, you know, I think you're very comfy at that. Because not, I guess it's not normal for an Emmy award-winning analyst to also be able to host. I guess it's two different worlds. Cool.

Yeah, you've crushed it. Thanks, bro. Have you given any takes that you regretted? Yes. Okay. Every day or just? Fairly often. Dolphins.

Dolphins are my playoff team. That was the other one. Yeah, that was bad. Because lions, we take a victory lap, but the dolphins complete obviously. I did a victory, like, Baker did something, and I was like, you know, that's why Baker's the man. And then all the Eagles fans are like, how do you dare you say Baker's the man? Jalen Hertz is the man. I'm like, I don't, I can't.

Have you gotten into the Philadelphia Wars at all? Try to stay away from those. Yeah. Those are very loud. Dangerous waters. No winning. Those ones get very dangerous. The Philadelphia fans are very good at talking shit, too.

Like, they're good. There are some cities that are just good. They're also very funny. So, like, you see it, and you're like, that's a good one. That was rude. That was good. Clever as hell. Okay.

John's got a good personality over there. You're the man, Shregs. Bro, I love you. We'll continue digitally with Shregs. Also, I think maybe the other guy. I'm not sure if he's left or now he left. He left. He had his other job.

No other guy. He had another building downtown. That guy's on a road. 75% of the fall and he loves ball and for that we love him just like we love you for allowing us to do this for a living we continue we'll see you tomorrow

be a friend tell a friend something nice and I change our life goodbye okay did you see the fireplace that's for the holidays very festive yeah it was pretty good we also got the tree up shot to Zito and Tim McAfee we've got some gifts under the tree here

I don't know if you guys saw the little details I think it's a red rider BB gun as well shoot your eye out here's great great great movie great movie Honnitha just ended, I believe, yesterday. I believe yesterday. I had Jay Glazer, Julian Edelman, have a conversation quickly about it back and forth

before Jay Glazer went into the stem cell stuff for DeForest Buckner and how he got back. But I think Julian and Jay had an encounter that said last day of Hanukkah. Is that right? It is right. A crazy night.

Are you a Jewish lad? I am. Okay, so I didn't want to... You don't want to assume. I didn't want to assume that yet because I thought... So, Shrix, tell me about Hanukkah. Tell me about Judaism. From what I've learned.

I am actually a Christian but from what I've learned okay so you are Jewish eight crazy nights we give gifts every single yeah so I grew up I was the one of the few Jewish kids in my high school Freehold New Jersey so I was always around Christmas but we would get eight nights

and it's kind of a moving target sometimes it's in early December sometimes it's in late December it's around Christmas and you get eight different gifts one gift a night and then on Christmas day you kind of sit back and you say all right those are my friends they're getting all those gifts but at least we got something okay so you guys feel as if you're celebrating ahead of time, and then when Christmas happens,

good on, you have a good time. So are gifts small, get bigger, what are the gifts? Usually the first night is your big gift. You know, my son, I got my son, ironically, a Puka Nakua jersey, which, well, we're okay now. He was ambushed. I wasn't sure what happened. I agree.

That whole situation, we could do three hours of TV on that. There's a lot of those situations. I do not blame Puka on that. Puka is a great kid, and from everyone on that organization, like he was just led down a road that he was not aware of what was happening. That said, that's a cool gift for a kid, a football jersey. And then you know, by the end of it, we're talking

about, you know, Lego, socks, kind of like the stocking stuffers for you guys. Okay, so we were taught, uh, dreidel, the song about a dreidel. What is that? What do you do with the dreidel? I know we spin the shit out of it. And then you're supposed to have this stuff called guilt, which is like a Jewish wrapped chocolate, okay? And if you

get a certain point on the, there's five different things on the dreidel or four, you get to get like five pieces of chocolate, you get four pieces of chocolate, you keep score, it's a game. Okay, so how are you as a dreidel spinner? Oh, I'm good. You get good numbers. Good flick, yeah.

Okay, and how do you know? It's whatever it lands on top? Yeah, there's like four different Jewish letters or Hebrew letters, and the Hebrew letter represents a certain number. And if you get it, you can kind of keep track, and it's like you keep stats. Play that one time of night, or is that multiple times? I probably one time of holiday season, really? Oh, wow.

Yeah, first night feels like the big one. First night's festive. Okay, what are we eating in this thing? There's something called potato pancakes, also known as Latkas, which are like these delicious fried. potatoes and then you dip them in like applesauce and sour cream that's usually like the festive conica food okay because christmas has what ham yeah prime rib prime rib seven fishes yeah and the super is that catholics that the night before though right that's eve midnight that's usually

go hand in hand well true it's and catholic yeah because they go to mass after okay at midnight mass or whatever right to start uh jesus birthday i will say this honica is not the most religious holiday on the Jewish calendar. It's more of an Americanized, hey, the kids all have Christmas. This is something that's in our month. Let's make something really fun at. Which one is the most? Okay, Passover. I would say Yom Kippur is actually the most festive. That is when you atone for your sins and you don't eat for the day and you just cleanse out all of your wrongdoing. So you go to synagogue for the entire day, you pray, you don't eat. And then at like five or six o'clock when the sun comes down, you eat. And you say,

all right, let's start the new year fresh. Let's be good. What are you eating? Same thing there? That is breakfast food. So like bagels and locks and pancakes and eggs and you have like this awesome feast. And it says off you're like break the fast, which is like breakfast. So it's the first thing in your body for the day. Oh, break the fast food. I'll tell you.

Even if you don't do any of the Judaism side of it fasting for a day, it's pretty great. Yeah, they say it takes care of your body. Oh, it's great. And it's good celebration. I assume on the other side, you know, can't appreciate the sun without the storms. So whenever you think about celebrations as a whole, are the vibes always like a Jewish wedding? Because I was at a Jewish wedding, and fuck. Fun, right?

What a time. So awesome. Holy shit, you're forced to dance. Like, you know how at weddings, it's like, are people going to dance? Like, we hope people will dance. That'll kind of be the thing. Everybody in the place was dancing. It was all upbeat.

And then the chair. Didn't matter what age. The chair. Oh, my God. The horror is what it's called. And you get in a circle and you take the bride, the groom, or in this case sometimes the grandma, and you just hoist them up on the chair and you dance around in a circle. It's super.

festive. AJ, I don't know if you've ever been there. There's a seatbelt for the chair. It's fun. I was going to ask that. I've been there when there's not a seatbelt. I was just wondering how many poor grandma's been dumped on their head. Oh, great, great. You can probably do a whole YouTube search of thousands of horror fails. Yes, that's it. People just going to fly. Yeah, it is like coffee. We're not setting up shit. This is just actually happening. Okay, well, thank you for the rundown there. So, Hanukkah just ended. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah. Christmas, coming right up. Can't wait. Holy hell. Now. Holy Hill. That's right.

Depends on where you're at and what your team's doing at the moment. But on that note, we thought the NFL was going to come Grinch Christmas. These games not matter, okay? Does the NBA potentially say we knew this would come? We'd be able to fight back. And does the NBA still think that they should move to Christmas Eve? Or do they still think they shouldn't move to Christmas Eve? We would like to tell them, we need you on Christmas Eve, okay?

We're going to be so bored, so bored on Christmas Eve. We need you to step up there, put all your best stuff, and then boom, let the NFL keep Christmas, because this slate is not great, okay, at this current moment, not great. But the numbers that this will do, first the NBA will be outrageous. We could still get a one-two punch throughout the entirety of Christmas, I think, if they were willing to do that. They're going to say, we've always done Christmas. I think Adam Silver actually told us to them, and it's like, well, Roger Goodell decided that the NFL is, you've got a kid. Take that up with him. But us, as sports fans, we need you to adjust.

We need you to adjust a little bit. It might be moving. I don't know if you heard, but LeBron spoke yesterday. Like, he's kind of bummed out. He's got to play on Christmas. So he'd rather be at home with his kids on the couch all day. Well, that's because LeBron has been playing on Christmas. 20, what?

22 straight years? He's also a Cowboys fan. He knows. You know, my boys are going to be playing on Christmas Day every single year. I'd like to be able to watch them. I think they should move Christmas, Eve. I think they should just. That'd be cool.

What's a day out? Boxing day? They always have a good money. What is the day after Christmas? Boxing day. Yeah, of course it is. Take back all the shit you don't want. Yeah, it's an English holiday.

Canadian, I thought. English, sure. That's the same. Kind of. What's the difference? They box up all the terrible gifts and they donate it. That's very nice of them to do. We appreciate the Canadians doing that.

Boxing day. What do we have sports-wise in the 26th? It's got to be a bowl game. Yeah, it's probably a bowl game or two, but really. Okay, so NBA. A bunch of ahoo care It's basketball day now On boxing day

Is NBA day And Adam Silver We've been told that maybe Clips make it to your office For certain decisions We'd be very grateful If you move with 26 Just as

Sports fans But certainly football fans Are gonna be forced to watch these games It don't fucking matter On Christmas because it's football Okay And that's just a deal I made with myself

And in my family And my eyes and my brain I'm gonna watch football NFL football if it's on But I'd like to watch your NBA because boy the lineup is insane in the stars I believe are playing well if they're playing at all so it's either stars aren't playing but if the stars aren't playing they're playing well so the NBA kind of having a hit him this year I might be watching NBA this year what

hitman Joker John Luca SGA whimby if I was Cooper flag KD if Iowa State I guess he's averaging 27 or something I guess Cooper flag's going crazy if Iowa State women's basketball Audi Crooks. I'll watch. She's unstoppable. I loved her last year. I was early on the Audi thing. She was playing against Iowa last year and was unbelievable to 40 points.

Again, she's unbelievable. Yes, she just, she goes crazy on the court. Did she play last year and beat Iowa? And how do we not know about Audi Crooks last year? Because we've, as soon as I saw first. I know I'm an ESPN guy now, but Fox put this, put Iowa, Iowa State on, like, middle of the day. And I'm like, oh, Caitlin Clark's not there anymore. Am I going to, why is this on?

And then this girl, this one. comes out there and is just dominant scored like 37 and had 11 and then they did the tournament and they were in the playing game and I'm like I don't know anything about women's college basketball I'm taking Iowa State and they went and they won a couple games in there look at that went in off ofotti crooks back but she also has a team and I think that's going crazy this year and uh whenever you think about uh women's college hoops you think oh they had a glory day they had a glory day whenever she gets rolling in the March madness time she's going to take care of your Algo because she is literally so good that's how she got into my life she's

start taking over my algorithm. I'm like, got to be fake. I think this can't be fake. Putting up like 35, 40 points in basketball, college basketball, just in general. And then you scroll through it and then you just start seeing these highlights. And then you talk about her playing against Iowa. She's from Iowa. I believe her dad passed away.

This past year, whenever she was in the Sighawk Bowl, she said she got emotional while she was at the free throw thinking about how much her dad would love what's happening right now. It's like, I think she's great for sports as a whole. So maybe they need to play on boxing day. Unfortunately, they are off until New Year's Eve. It was a good story, though. No, it is.

But they do not play until they got a 2 p.m. tip on New Year's Eve in Houston. See, we just need everybody to acknowledge sports world. I know we sound arrogant, but it's just like, look at the fucking numbers. Yeah. Everybody watches the NFL games. Yeah, come on. If you can just acknowledge that and book around us, we'd be grateful. Now, that takes a lot of self-admittance that you don't want to do, and I respect it.

but please if you could start booking around ball we'd be grateful we can't be having the finals of shit happening during football because it's going to be naturally we don't care MLS Cup well messy one you gotta put

we gotta put that one ever right messy one okay rider cup get that fucker out of football season can't have it get it out of there that also though what's that we got we got we came back in that I mean it was a good son to me yeah who gives a fuck

okay I ain't watching once they go down, 14 and 3. On NFL Sundays. Yeah, who gives a fuck if I'm not watching that day. Week two, week three. They maybe need to do a digital deal so that they just take over everybody's phone. The Rotter Cup needs it or they need to get it. They need to get out of football season.

Need it right before football season. There's a weekend. Or compete. What's that? Or try to win maybe. Oh, you're talking about the American squad? Yeah. They tried.

Sure. They tried. Those euros are just. You ain't trying. Play Thursday, Friday, take Saturday, Sunday off, play Monday during the day. Now we're talking. Sounds good. Now we're talking.

See, look, this is what we're talking about. We need more of this type of brainstorm. And I'm sure there's millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars that potentially say none of this can happen. But in reality, it would be cool if it could. Yeah. Let's take a break. We've got overreactions on the other shot. Shreger's got to hit down at a lot house.

I'm going to be on very shortly on ESPN. If you want to keep watching, I would love it over there. Yeah, we would love for you to come back someday. And also, we appreciate how much you've done for us. this season. Are you kidding? Hey, draft, Pittsburgh. I hope you asked me back. That's it. I feel like we're not going to be able to. You're going to be. We'll see. We'll see. I don't know.

I mean, up is an interesting way to describe that, but you are going to be on the... I don't know. Especially in Pittsburgh. We had something special. Tone, I know you know it. There was a real magic there. I would love to recreate that tricks. Pittsburgh is going to be fucking outrageous. I think. Yes. From my understanding.

Now, I don't know where they're going to put us. remember that was a whole thing last year. Yeah, yeah, almost didn't go. Almost canceled it. Yeah. Would have done it from here, but didn't want to go. They were going to put us on the other side. I remember.

Why would you do? What's the purpose? Guess what? Want us to come? What is the problem? What it matter most? Mad Moe was celebrating with Packers fans. It's all that matters.

Right in the, I mean, we had the best location of all the time. It was unbelievable. Do you know how pissed so many people had to be because of that? Oh, I don't doubt it. Oh, my God. So I'll be excited to see what our setup is. Regardless, it's Pittsburgh. So we'll be celebrating ball there in its entirety,

but yeah, that's going to be awesome. This is another point, like, the cities that can't get a Super Bowl because of weather and things like they don't have a brand new stadium, the draft is a great celebration of ball that takes over the whole weekend and hopefully brings a lot of business to a city.

Celebration of that city, too. Yeah, yeah, should be, will be, the views. Oh, because at night, much better. You know, like, when we were there for game day, we had the fountain down there at the point and we had the entire city and everything like that. Beautiful view. But at night with the lights,

Like, that's what the, that's what they, they tell stories about. Yeah, that's what they, hey, coming out of Fort Pittbridge Tunnel, it's the best view in the world or wherever. It's like at night when that shit's all lit up, that's the. They're going to show up. Now, we're playing a game. Yeah, they're going to be boozed up. The issue is, that's not, that's not terrible, at an extra element.

Pittsburgh people. A little rowdy. Boozed up. Mm-hmm. In the middle of a draft with somebody maybe taking, I mean, there is a chance for high motions. But it'll be great. It'll go flawless.

Right, Tone? Depends on who we take. All right. Good point. A lot of pressure. They got picks, too. They could move. Yeah.

They can make it real electrifying, too, if they wanted to in Pittsburgh, which I think Jansers would say, oh, great, you know, at the beginning. And then depending upon who it was, they go crazy. Who knows? You might have the 30-second pick this year. Damn right. Let's put it out there. That's right.

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Sign up now. football he's the greatest that's a j hawk the toxic table's here at boston corner and at thai smith one half of the hammer god cowboy's ap ton is here a nine-year NFL vet Miami hurricane fan deris jean boy oh yeah college football playoffs have begun we started 12 count down to eight you know we're trying to get the one which would be a CFP national champion uh AJ I don't know if you've got a chance to chat about it with us but Those field passes are obviously sick.

Like, we are so lucky we get to do them. It was a wild scene out there strictly because, well, I guess a couple different factors. Their fans are awesome and insane. The in-stadium music person pretty good with the timing of it all, which is it does make a big difference. And that wind, AJ, was, that was the windiest game I've ever been a part of.

I've ever stood on the sideline of. That thing was relentless. It was gusting the entire time. They're like, gus up to 35, 40 miles an hour. It was like, what's a constant dust? Is that not just the wind at this point, AJ? I think that changed the game completely. Do you not believe that as well?

Oh, my gosh. It made a completely different game. I had dead people asked me yesterday. Like, hey, was it really, it seemed to be pretty windy out there. That game? I'm like, yes, the game was completely, it changed everything. And there was weird times where, okay, like they're up at the line pre-snap. You know, QB may surveying the defense.

And the wind would pick up between that and when the ball was snapped. And all of a sudden, you're trying to throw it like, geez, all of a sudden a 30-mile-hour gust just comes two seconds after they're at the line of scrimmage. Like, you never knew where it was, but it was always, it was constantly there. There was never like a law to where it calmed down, I feel like. Yeah, there was no full play operation without at least one of the Gus coming through. Because it would kind of settle down a little bit. We'd take our hands off our cowboy hats.

And then all of a sudden, four seconds. Aha, okay, we got to catch that thing again. That was wild. I'll tell you, you seemed to have a better relationship with. your hat? Was that thing too small, or did your head just fill it perfectly, you think? My head did fill it, so I was at the

old boot bar and picking that hat out the day before, and I tried on many different hats. I wanted to make sure it a nice little snug fit, and I had to, you know, I was thinking about getting chin strap about half time because I was hoping that sucker on so hard. Yeah, it was a lot, Debutt, and we should have known

this. I guess we... Yeah, I know. I didn't realize until you started the show, like, yeah, of course Dbutt's not going to wear a cat. He came to me, like, oh dude you got an extra cowboy hat and he acted like he was looking for one he was definitely never never going to wear one from my understanding now he's telling me off air there's dudes

on the team their families like putting photos together of these kids at Darius Butler's football camp and now they're on the Miami Hurricanes you know he's South Florida guy we should be he's a Hall of Famer down there yeah you're right we should have piece that together I mean that definitely should have been the case

and then Christopal immediately when as soon as the second pick happened I didn't see because I was looking at Bryce. Allegedly, Coach Cristobal was looking over at me, telling me to take the damn hat off. I watched him look directly at you multiple times trying to get your attention telling you to take the hat off. Yeah, I guess he's in a matter of.

You take the hat off. You take the hat off. They were not happy. I think they felt disrespectful that I picked Texas. And after the game, he came in for like a double leg, which we had been talking about. And then he told me, I saw your pick. I heard your pick.

Like he was actually disappointed, it feels like. And it's like, I understand. I understand because we do appreciate Cristobo. We like his style. We think like we are a show that talks about ball in a way that I think coach Christopal appreciates. Like, hey, physical game, got to be a dog, got to be tough. Like the way he views his culture, I think he thinks we should be like sympathical.

And we'd like to tell him we do think that. But at that moment, I was in front of the 12th man there. Yeah. And things were going crazy. And I was there at the midnight yo. And I got captivated by all. I had the cowboy had on, had multiple belt buckles. Yeah?

I got gifted multiple belt buckles. People come up to me, they say, sir, we think this belt buckle will be great for you. And I'm like, thank you so much for that. I think that's like a good gift that they give to each other down there. I've got some great ones. Challenge coins, obviously, as well. Insane, got an FBI one this weekend, was not in uniform. Wow.

So what is? Oh, yeah, I got one after the game, too. Oh, yeah. Somebody got left out. So he made sure. Yeah. Hey, somebody got left out. Got one more.

Yeah, belt buckles, challenge coin. I mean, they took care of us. They took care of us down there. So whenever you talk about, hey, making a pick to 110,000 people, they had us to the stadium. That doesn't happen ever. Got to take advantage of a moment. Especially if I'm going to be standing there for the next three hours.

Definitely. You know, got to have to do that. So I got captivated by it all. What I didn't think they were going to be able to do is keep up with the physicality at Texas A&M. Like, I thought Miami in the big moment, maybe shrivel a little bit. It's like, yeah, right. That's a complete opposite of their culture. it feels like AJ.

Yeah, Miami's O-line and D-line were on fire. I mean, the whole team, but I mean, both teams' defense obviously played very, very well, but I was just so impressed with, especially Miami's D-line. Like, they just put so much pressure on. They were so stout. They were, like, a lot of times they were very disciplined in their rush plan, and like this, they tackled unbelievable in open space. Tell me about you watching games just as a linebacker the whole time.

Is that what you do down there on the sideline? No, I try not to. I try to, you know, like, I guess change up exactly what I'm looking at. My eyes do go to the linebackers a lot because I tend to see when the linebackers are in a tough spot. Like when they're in a tough match, I've walked out on Malachi Tony or something, and they're running a little RPO read off of you and putting a run fake in your face. And Malachi's run to the flat. I'm like, okay, that guy's an impossible spot right there, no question.

But that's usually what I'm watching. But I was watching Miami's offensive line as well. I was very impressed by them. Yeah, just the overall team speed of both these teams just, it blew me away. AJ's line, he's watching as a lineback. You can see him right here. He literally passed the cover. Hey, hey, out, out, out, out.

And then before the massive collision. Yeah, he saw that. You saw his little, his whole back tighten up right before the full collision. Yeah. AJ is the linebacker right there. Torre, I believe. Yeah. Baham and Torre, who's willing to go for it.

AJ's first takeaway was I appreciate that there's still players that are willing to just do that for their team, especially in that moment. And I think that is because you literally watched the whole play. Pass off. He did a great rep there. I think you were judging. But us being able to stand that close to him. it all, absurd. There are some drawbacks. We can't see shit. It's very tough to see who's doing

what, especially if the Jumbotron is a little bit back. But we get a chance to feel it. It feels like we called what the game was going to be very early because of you guys. I feel like we actually did call the first points might win this entire thing. We said that literally from, I think, three, four minutes into the first quarter because we had a chance to feel it. We also knew Fletcher was going to be the problem. In the end, he turns out being that. It's like, it feels like we have a good perspective because of how much ball you guys have played and what you can see from that perspective as if you're on the field which is what it feels like what i'm talking yeah and in these big games you know you're going to have to deal with shit everybody has a game

playing until the game actually starts and then sometimes it's weather sometimes it's an environment sometimes it's injuries and i feel like miami you know had to deal with all that big time players went out for you know sometimes small amount of times and then came back shit you missed three field goals most of them a couple of them were in gaming range you had big time feel a fumble so he had all these that you had to bounce back from, but it was unbelievable, you know, grit and winning this game. But now, looking forward to Ohio State. This is probably the most anticipated football game and hurricane for the last 20-something years since that last national championship with the, you know, Chris Gamble flag, who's also a South Florida legend. And now you got Jeremiah Smith, who are some people down to the crib calling Judas right now talking shit.

So it's going to be spicy. Yeah, Jeremiah said, you know, they're still worried about what happened 20 years ago. we got something for you know in 2025 AJ you're on that team right yep I was a true freshman okay and played AJ played and he said you wasn't supposed to play the year I think he had like three picks or something yeah he uh his yes yes you yes you had one or I had one pick one picks or maybe two but one early yeah yeah as a freshman yeah mr. Ohio comes in there to Ohio state freshman year gets on the field has two picks one pick six all over the place in the national championship, maybe where the legend of the hawker kind of began, which is why any car

he's driving, his ram truck in Ohio, it says Ohio State legend right across the back of it, because as soon as they let eyes on him at Centerville, they said, that boy is going to be a good buck eye. And as soon as they laid their eyes on him as a buck eye, they said, fuck, that boy is going to be a great buck eye. And then all of a sudden, it becomes the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. But on that note, are you picking up tendencies whenever you're down on the field there watching? Like, did you find yourself, like, kind of knowing what an offense was going to run from the beginning of the game to the end of the game without having access to all the film in a week leading up to it?

I mean, kind of, a little bit at times. I mean, I'm always trying to figure out what they're trying to do. But, yeah, being right behind there, when you're watching, like, a play develop, like, when the offense is going out and we're behind it, like watching Fletcher downhill, we're like, this is going to continue all day. P and 10, first play the drive, it's like line him up in the pistol. He's going downhill, and he's going to get at least 10, maybe 35 yards. It was wild seeing that from directly behind the offense right there.

and you saw it over and over again. I'm like, he and continue to feed this guy the ball for sure. Who's the O.C. for Miami? Shannon Dawson. Shane and Dawson. We were trying to stay early. And he doesn't get to stand where we get to stand. We get to stand in a better place.

It's like every time they were running with it, there was a lot of space. I mean, obviously they're running a 3-3 stack on the other side. There's always going to appear to be space. But with the way Fletcher was running, that felt like that was going to be good, especially with that win from the beginning. That was really the only thing that was working because everything you can tell they were trying to feed Malacotone and every. time he was getting the ball in the flat they were on him he was a wildcat running east and west

the defense was all over them on third down they were doing great as well so yeah that was the only thing that we saw working in and another thing from our vantage point we have much more appreciation of what the quarterbacks got to deal with because they're sitting in the pocket sometimes they're throwing the ball and reed wasn't the biggest guy you knew he couldn't see shit he had to be anticipated where these guys were so he was making plays you know back me and co-plays for one of the drives the win was an unbelievable factor we all felt it's a great game though We're lucky to do it. We're appreciative to do it.

I think the next one is the Rose Bowl. But, man, it feels that Cotton Bowl is the night before, right? That feels like a game. Miami, Ohio State feels like a game you should want to be at. That feels like that's going to be. Indiana, Alabama, let's go in the Rose Bowl. Indiana favored by seven. The Indiana Hoosiers favored by seven in football.

It feels like a lot. At the Rose Bowl against Alabama, who just had a 17-point comeback against Oklahoma. in Indiana has been resting for the last three and a half weeks. That does feel like a lot of points for any playoff game, but anytime we've seen Indiana play seemingly, they're up to the task. Fernando Mendoza feels like a veteran,

so they've got leaders all across the board. Signetti, if what Fernando told us is accurate, is taking the same calendar or schedule that Nick Saban used to have, where they're going to work out and just kind of let Fernando do the practices for a while, and then 13 or 11 days, I forget what it was, 11 days before

the game or 7, I forget the exact number. before the game, that's when they'll start back up as if it's a little bit of a normal game week so you don't wear anybody out or anything like that. So I'm intrigued to see how it works out because last year the weight was not good for any team. Last year, teams were rusty. The other team coming in hot. I mean, Alabama just eliminates 17 points in like basically four minutes, five minutes. They're riding quite a high right now. And Indiana's just been kind of hanging out. That's an interesting advantage that they're saying it is. But I don't know. Honestly, We do have to remember that last year it was the conference champions who got the buy,

and this year was just the top four teams. So we'll see if that makes the difference because in the first round it made a difference. The helm teams were 4 and 0 last year, and obviously they had two losses this year. Yeah, and point differential, I think, went from 19 to 16 or something like that. But if you didn't have the Tulane-O- and Miss game, obviously, that would be vastly different because at the end of that JMU game, they came back a little bit on Oregon. I guess, Coach Laining put his ones back out? Did he?

I think so. I think there's a chance. I haven't got to see the film yet. I've just kind of seen. What? Yeah, had backups out, had backups in. JMU obviously starts scoring. And then allegedly he's like, yeah, fucking right.

Put the ones back out there at the very end of the game. Like last drive, maybe. Yikes. That's the worst. Yeah. So. Or to cut your tape off your wrist. Yeah.

And also, Coach Lannan is only doing that if he's incredibly pissed. Yep. He was post game. Yeah, about everything going on. So I think they still feel, they got a chance to get the rust out play a game. But I don't think they're thinking they played their best game or got to play their best game, I guess. So it's like, I think we're going to have a great second round. There's people that are obviously pissed about Tulane and JMU getting in.

And they're saying like basically until they fix that, I'm not watching. It's like, you're missing great shit, man. Like there's great plays. You're talking about these dudes who are going to go on to have Hall of Fame careers, making magical moments at these universities that have so much tradition and passion and fan bases that span back decades, if not centuries. It's like, it's a special time. Oklahoma hosting that game, that was electric out there. They lose.

Texas A&M hosting that game, that whole city was alive. They lose. Teams going into that type of environment makes the road even better, and it's like, yeah, I still think we got a pretty good product. Now, if you were to say Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas, Ole Miss, yeah. Sure. That might have got the people going a little bit. But we can't live in that world.

That wasn't the rules, okay? so hopefully they'll change the rules so the next year we have that. But in the moment, we got good shit with college football right now. Great shit. And look, I understand the potting. But just win your games. When the games you're supposed to win. Well, it's easy to say that when you're playing JMU schedule.

Win the games you're supposed to win, and you get a chance to shine. And if you don't, you don't. And, you know, I'm sure they'll change it next year. And I think the right answer is group of five can get in if they're ranked in top. I think that's an easy. Just do the ring. Easy fix. And they will do that.

They will make that fix. I think they have shown that they will. fix things or adjust things, but they're going to also say the first round in total has to get figured out, because it's still 16 points differential. But what I would like to say is at Alabama, Oklahoma game was electrifying. Bangor. Banger. What a comeback. Yeah. What a comeback. Texas A&M, Miami. Now, the wind certainly changed the way that entire thing goes, but they were battling in there. I mean, they were battling in there. Good football being played. Both sides. Huge hits. Massive. Huge hits. And the refs.

letting him play. We need that crew in the NFL. Yep. They did a great job, though. Did you notice the refs at all? Did anybody say, oh, these guys are stepping in? I guess there was one. The people claim they wanted the late hit.

Who was it on when he tossed him out of bounds a little bit? It was a great no call. Yeah, it was a great no call. Who was that on? OJ, cornerback for Miami. 29? Yeah, that's the young man that was at my camp. Yeah, it turns out the guy who maybe had the late hit there, you know.

Good job, stay out of him. Yeah. There was a questionable, roughing the path. Ruffing light that kind of spurred Texas A&M's drive to go down to tie it. Helmet to helmet, too, on the Tori hit, I guess, also could be it. But that ref crew, very open. Like, very open about, hey, we're playing football here. Let's go ahead and do that.

We're not fighting. I think we're not going to get into the fight and stuff like that. But I think that's a crew that everybody has the same mindset. Like, normally I think head ref can have an idea on what he is. but he might have one or two people within the crew that aren't the same way. So maybe it is a little inconsistency on who's calling what, because these crews have to be teams, you know, they have to all decide that they're doing shit the same.

That's obviously not as easy as it sounds if it was in a video game. That crew feels like they're all, they see football the same exact way. And they're all very comfortable. Yeah. I mean, they're all very confident. Dude that was absolutely shredded. Who's black dude or shredding? Oh, you're talking about the aunt.

I'm not sure that he was like. What's Jordan's on? The Jordan Cleans. Oh, Joy, he's a UConnor. Dave, I think, is his name. I forget. Bill Judge. I've got a chance to chat with him multiple times from college and through it all.

I think we've seen him kind of grow up. The, yeah, the black dude that was jacked with the Oakley glasses. Did you see him? Oakley glasses? He's middle of that game. Smile on his face. It's like they weren't scared. There was nothing.

And like, that's what you need out of the rest. I think that's our big conversation. It's like, you are the representative as a ball. Okay, fucking act like it. Like that's what you need to do. And it's easier said than done, of course. But we've seen it done in the past. So let's go ahead and get those people or at least put into place

the best ways to get those people into those positions. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, I guess it's tough to think. What do you have those guys, like those refs crews try to mentor young guys or use them to coach your young guys? Whatever it is, the head guy, they're all going in the same direction. They're on the same page. And they also, like, I don't know, they're not.

You know, some reps feel like almost you can watch them and they're nervous. You can tell they're, they don't. They don't want to, they don't want to have to make a call or have a no call that decides the game. That ref crew feels like, yeah, we're going to, whatever happens, we will, we will, that's what we do. We're the referees, but we're not worried about it. We're just going to call it like it is. And we're not saying it's an easy job.

No. It's not an easy job at all. It's a very difficult job in who would want to do it. But it's just like at the NFL, we need to, we need to find those people. Be the best. We need to find those people. Like, I don't want to say jeopardizing the game. But, I mean, there's a couple things that happen.

And it's like, how is this what's representing this multiple hundreds of billion dollar league in everything like that? I just think that needs to be a part of the conversation when we're figuring out who's doing what. Definitely jeopardizing the game. But the point about the helmet to helmet, like in A&M, Miami, if that's the thing that you have a gripe about, like in no world does a helmet to helmet call, you know, make or break a game. And that it would have. Like you're, you give them four more chances and you're going to make that call. After kind of swallowing the whistle, the whole game, you're going to completely flip it on the last. last drive.

They would have got murdered. They would have got murdered. Yeah. And we would have thought the same thing, too. Like, you're going to make that call in the college football playoff to basically hand A&M, not only the ball on the two yard line, the two and a half yard line, but also the new set of downs. Like, after already calling it questionable, can see the rough and the pasture, but still

questionable on the final drive. Like, no way can they make that call. Football feel, I think is what we're talking about. Yeah. We need people with football field. Their contract's up. We've got to remember that. Contracts up.

So right now is a time where the league is okay with figuring out solutions with the refs. Normally, league, always going to back the refs. Always. If you look at our league versus other leagues, we have good officials. And obviously, they have full-time reps. So you're always going to hear Roger Goodell. You're always going to hear the NFL backing the refs. They fine people for saying anything bad about the refs.

Now, because there's a little bit of a contract coming up, we need some leverage. We need some leverage, you know, is what we're thinking. And yeah, it's okay if we've got, yeah. They're not perfect, are they? Yeah, it is interesting that they're not perfect. And maybe they do need a little bit extra. This guy, yep, throws that in. And he brings it back then, too, like a little bow and arrow thing.

It's part of his thing. We have it. Is that the beginning or the end? No, after he goes, he can throw. There you go. Hang loose, bro. Throw it, and then watch you pulls it back like a bow. Oh, I didn't see the bow.

I saw the throw because for those that don't. though white cap standing opposite end zone of kickoff okay their job is to make sure all the refs are off the field everybody is set up and aligned and then bang they blow that thing to be a live play so whenever that happens normally it's just a point right this guy throwing up the a shocka yeah yeah yeah got you and then him you know what take that shit to you down there it's just like so comfortable like that's like big 12 crew so confident so comfortable so comfortable It's like they were, I'm a big fan of them. I think they do a good job.

They don't move on unless they do well either. Because we ask a guy before the game, oh, where you're at next week? He's like, hey, we don't know. It depends on how we do today. So hopefully we see you down the road. Here's the crew. Here's the crew here. We saw them a lot last year.

The guy from Yukon. Gabriel. Sorry, I called on Dave. That's 100% on me. Gabe, sorry, Gabe. That's a loss of translation. There's a lot in there. I apologize.

We've seen them multiple times. They're all awesome, though. That is a good crew. That is a good crew. Yeah. And we appreciate how, because I would say some shit, like, during break, you know. You asked them about the replay, yeah, reviews. Yeah, because there was, uh, Texas A&M was trying to run hurry up a couple times.

And before even getting a snap off, it, before anybody would be able to have your challenge. Like, it was like a good, executed hurry up because it could be a reviewable play. It got blown dead from up top. But we didn't know if it was up top or if it was the refs. Who was it? So we asked them. He's like, yeah, it's Gene. Paul, Gene.

It's, no, with her. He did say, somebody in Pittsburgh, too. Something about Pittsburgh. Gene Semcoe. Yeah, Gene Simco. And he said he was kind of whistling it down or blowing it dead or whatever.

And it was like, even that operation, like that quickly being like, we got to look at that. That was even good. It was like, I thought they did a fucking great job. Absolutely. Especially given the elements, like, knowing that like the, like, because it became apparent very early on. Like, this is going to be super, super physical.

Not that it wouldn't have been beforehand, but it's like, okay. Pat, like, and they could have been really ticky tack with several flags. And it was kind of just like, nope, this is kind of a shit show. Like, the tougher team's going to win. We'll just let them play. We appreciate the college football playoff as a whole. We're lucky to be there and we'll continue staying on us. Now, granted, if we didn't appreciate it from where we're standing and watching,

we'd be the biggest pieces of shit on earth. You don't have to even love football to love that experience. Yeah. Yeah. What a time. Can you imagine somebody that doesn't know anything about football, and they stood with us and watched the game from there and had no, they really didn't have any kind of idea.

He'd be like, oh, my gosh, how does everyone not die on every play? Who's Miami returner? Keel and Mary. Keel and Marion. I guess he's a Yukon transfer. Yeah, Yukon started, Yukon went to BYU now at you. He weighed fair catch for a kickoff, and then he was down near us for the next kickoff, and we're literally screaming in him.

Hey, nah, no, fair catch. Take this thing. He turns. He sees D-But. Full point to D-But. He goes, okay, debut. Like, a whole thing. And it was like, wait a minute. We might get this guy in some real shit here. Please don't focus. Yeah, yeah. We need you not do that. Kid kick the touchback. Thank God, because who knows what happens. But in that score, like low-scoring, offenses weren't really scoring or doing much. It's like, you would want kickoff return, just like the part return for Malachi. It's like, that's where you can kind of maybe break one. So whenever I saw the fair catch, I'm like, yeah, right, bro. You play. from Miami, dude. Like, Take it out. Oh, yeah.

Let's fucking go, dude. And him turn around and going, okay, deep butt clapping. My immediate thought was, oh, fucking Cristobal was going to hate him. Yeah. So bad. Hey, need one here. Hey. Exactly. Get these assholes off the fucking field. They're talking my players into doing things they're not supposed to do.

That was like, that was running through my head. I was like, oh, no, no. If I was like, if I was Keeler, I would definitely get talked into something. advice. Oh, what? Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Dude, could you imagine?

For sure. Take it to the house. He cribs that. That would be a much different story. Oh, yeah. Now, he takes that, that thing comes flying out. All of a sudden, they get the ball in like 25. Return team.

He's expecting him to put his hand up, fair catch. Nobody's blocking. Oh. I thought about all of it. He's running directly to you. Double-A-6-D. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Didn't happen. Hey, we lived to see another day for the sideline. And we hope you'll watch with us. Rose Bowl will be live I believe on ESPN 2 it'll be Alabama versus Indiana that cotton bowl we should

boy it's a long trip Texas to L.A how far is that two? We did it once yeah remember shut up oh yeah everybody was sleeping

be quiet just play your cars don't make any noise turn the lights off oh yeah you did you did True. Rizu, Ohio State? Yep.

Yep. It was awesome. We're on private plane. Holy shit. Just left a cotton bowl heading to the road. Well, this is a good time. Chich, chich, chich. Hell yeah.

Going to drink? Absolutely. Everybody would like one? Yep. Absolutely. Then all of a sudden, all the lights go down. And the whole plane. It's like, what the fuck is going on here?

Turn on our little fucking, all right? Figure this out. Heck, you guys keep it down. We're going to try to get some sleep. Turn that off. Sleeping on a fucking private plane? I didn't know we did. That, holy fuck, we're real comfortable on this goddamn thing.

Just used to it? I love that. So we whispered while playing you and boozing for the next two and a half hours. We did try to keep it down. There was a couple moments for Connor. I got very excited, though. I mean, we had some good hands. We had some good wins up there in the sky.

You got to do that. Yeah, it was a good time. What was it? Two and a half hours? I forget. Probably about that, yeah. It actually made it more fun. Like, we were hysterically laughing at points because we had to be quiet.

Yeah, sure. That was crazy. That was a wild time. There was another time I got, I was lucky enough to be on a private plane. Remember, I sat sideways for Atlanta, L.A. That's right. And that one, though, is just a hop-skipping a jump. You know, that's not bad.

That one was good. It wasn't obvious that I was certainly not on the original manifest and tossed into the thing later there. Here's one seat that's open. Faces that way. We're flying out. You're comfortable. It's about a seven-hour flight.

Okay, sick. Do I have a back or anything? Well, I actually can't turn it because then there's no walkway, and you need to have a walkway. Oh, sweet. Thank you, guys. Here's area. the infamous night card game oh yeah here's Connor introducing himself as him hi how you

doing I'm him I used to meet you hi hi hi hi yeah please I'd like to meet you I'm him thank you yes sir I'm him thank you whispering obviously wow a lot of inside baseball here that was a fucking epic night right there was so fun that was a great night that was a great night of cards yeah he was him then in that moment I think yeah okay yeah good one oh that was a There's a bit... Quiet house. Yeah, quiet out. Yeah, it was certainly something.

Just know that we are not the people that are supposed to be in a situation that we are in. And if you were in the situations we were in, we think you would handle them the same way. We try to do the right thing all the time. I feel like that is accurate. I try my...

We try our best to do the right thing. But we also try to enjoy literally everything. I think literally everything. And it's sports you're supposed to. These are the good old days. We're in them. Hell yeah. Come on.

We're in them. And on the... And on that note, Ryan Day said he'll be taking over to play calling during the college football playoffs. So Kurt Signetti, good luck being the only Big Ten team that can maybe go and get it. Because Ryan Day is back under center for the Ohio State Buckeyes. He doesn't like that his playcullers potentially go into a different team. That was happening in Texas A&M, wasn't it? Well, yeah, I don't think so.

How about this? I'll be in control of what we end up doing. Where's Ryan Day like as a play caller? Do we know? He was the play caller before Chip Kelly, I believe. Age, what's he like? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

He's crowned a national champion. He cut his teeth on being a great play caller, as DeBone would say for all the people in Nashville that he hates it, didn't cut their teeth there. But I feel like Ryan Day, this is what he does. This is what he does. This is not a, you know, it's nothing out of the norm. Known as a great play caller.

Great explanation of cutting your teeth and why it has entered our universe with the way DeBud has gotten very pissed on. off about awards being given out in the country music space, which he thinks shouldn't be going to who they're going to, because where did they cut their teeth at? Are they appreciative of the city? Ryan Day, when was last time he called plays? That would be, what, three years ago? Two years? Yeah. Before Chip, right? The Chip was only there a year. Oh, man, that's actually a pretty good little weapon. Now, nobody knows his tendencies. He's not too far removed, but also it might be fresher after watching Chip and watching Hardline

here. He kind of maybe a little bit of a mixture. He's seen what his offense does well. He's seen what it doesn't hasn't done well and if this is what he was supposed to be the super genius at feels like that's a good thing not a bad thing do we think it's because of good luck what happened at texas aina no i think it's just because i mean i don't i think it's anything to do with him looking at a and m he just knows that heartline you know is probably 99.9% in on the buck guys but he's 100% in on the buck guys yeah well the thing about harline is he'll be in a new city next year you know what i'll be in this house that he used to have to have 24-7 security here exactly so that guy's not answering questions i don't

after the game he's leaving you're correct and he's trying to recruit out of our building so i'm gonna make sure that the boys are happy with all these plays are being called that's right look for jeremiah smith getting to paint oh julian sane in the playoff we've only really seen him in one massive moment really it's that michigan game and i remember his hair kind of like you know flowing perfectly it looked like he was made for the moment then we see him take on indiana it's like wait a minute indiana was able to hang Is that because Indiana's number one team in the country? Or is that because Ohio State isn't who we thought they were?

I guess we all find out. Find out. It's a good D-line. It's a great D-line at Miami. They're chirping, too. Oh, they're confident. Ruben Bain doesn't take kind of disrespect. Oh, no.

Three sacks, I believe, four tackles for loss, a blocked field goal. Ruben Bain was a bane to their entire existence down there at Texas A&M? Was he not? He was. He was a little fired up with what's Zooned the third. to say. Mm-hmm. You said what?

Walking Park. Block kick. Quarterback destruction. Tackle for loss. Oh, yeah. Mezador's going to eat on the other side as well. It was a wild game on both sides, but that Ruben Bain character, he's fun to watch. And then they put a live mic on him in a locker room afterwards, and he'll give you all his

motivations that he had. What he was thinking about. I like it. Me too. Now, Matt, I'm going to move on. these lives from not just college NFL everything NBA I guess whoever's doing them I mean that is a moment of high emotion right yeah like the highest that is like the highest so I think what we're watching it needs to be taken under consideration that there is an intoxication

happening in front of us of dopamine and everything that is taking place like I think you know what I mean like I think people try to take oh my gosh on the road too yeah yeah like it's like almost like yeah you got to be responsible for what you say, but almost you don't need to be, like, especially after a big win on the road. We saw Christopher, we saw that Miami team, like, what you can do, like, if you go on the road and get a huge win like that to advance in a sudden death game, like what that can do for your team, that will last for years, like confidence and juice and known, like, yeah, of course, like we belong here. We're supposed to be here. Yeah, and they used back. That was like the, that was the playmaker. We got a playmaker

giving coach kisses. Like, we got, I mean, he's amazing. Yeah. So, So I would just like people to judge people off of that. Like, that is a very wild time in a human's existence in a winning locker room. And whenever these lives are coming, like, I think we should be a little bit more forgiving for things that say. And I don't think we should be judging it as if it's clear head, clear mind, sober thoughts. You know, might have been sober thoughts. But I don't think it's like... Yeah, we've seen his notebook.

That's kind of a constant. Hey, fuck this guy. Fuck this coach. fuck this player fuck this team yeah they wrote checks they couldn't cash

what Bain said so they can keep talking and I'm gonna run in that guy probably at the next level too and guess what it's on site every single time

speaking of that Miles Garrett almost got it yeah close Miles Garrett almost got it JJ being on the call for Miles Garrett breaking TJ's record

TJ's tied with Shrayhan for 22 and a half JJ being on a call for that would have been awesome I think you know just kind of the sack family kind of all

being there, but instead he still remains one away. Could break it against the Pittsburgh Steelers. A Cleveland Brown breaking a sack per season record against the Pittsburgh Steelers would be great for the city of Cleveland. It would be great for the Browns as a whole. Brown's obviously not really playing for anything. Steelers certainly playing for something. So a little bit, a tale of two different stories in two different cities,

who knows what the future holds. But Miles Garrett came against Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh would be very poetic, I think, for the good of ball. Yeah, I think it was, I don't know, I was talking to someone here, maybe four weeks ago, six weeks ago, just looking at the numbers. I said he's definitely, he's definitely going to break it against the Steelers. This would be the 16th game. Yes.

Which would be what the old schedule was, the old calendar was. So I think if you break it in 17 games, I think there's always going to be a little asterisk. But if you break it in 16 games, I think there will also be an asterisk. They said, got it in 16 games, ended up with a total of blah, blah, blah. blah, blah, because you're being judged upon the past. It's just like, Adam Venetary's an all-time-leaning score, that was only 16-game seasons. So, like, 17-game seasons, if anybody ever catches him, which would be very difficult.

He's going to hit the Anvil tonight, maybe break that fucking thing. Yeah. But, like, there is, like, asteris forever, like, this is during a 16-game season, because an extra game adds a lot, you know, age, opportunity. Big time. I mean, stack that up over 20 years. How many years is Vinnetary play? 25, maybe?

Jeez. Yeah. Was he always that jacked as a player as he is now? Always, always considered them, always worked out hard. Always worked out. Tackled Herschel Walker. Yeah, he always, he was worked out really hard. He was quarterback and a wrestler in high school and a kicker.

That's awesome. Good for him. Yeah, so he was always, like, bench, and his bench was very good. So he didn't mind laying his ass down there, 39 years old, 38 years old. And with the young bucks seeing him move, you know, 275, whatever it is, that he's moving. It's like, yeah, got it. There was a decision made by he and I, though, that we were going to, explore the space whenever we retired because we had seen and heard about these things that were

available. And we certainly have. I think it's very, I think it's very, but he is. He might break that envelope with him. You're right. Yes, he is big. He's fucking, last time I saw him, I haven't seen him in, I don't know, maybe six months. I assume he's been in like four different remote areas hunting things. You know, he goes into like a rainforest for like 13, 14 days and just lives in there. Yeah, I mean, he was telling me a story. It was like, I'm living in a rainforest for 17 days. Oh, he's like full go, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

He's not glamping. He's out there for weeks. Yeah, so he literally gone, you know, for a while. And then he has full family. So I don't really see him as much. I don't think he's at as many games. But every time I see him, he's more jack. And it's like, holy fuck, dude.

He's lifting all day. He might break out of Amville. Chance. Red paned at halftime. Here we go. The Polko steak boys. Oh, just stay out of her way. She's already coming off an injury.

Stay out of her way, please. All right, let's do our overreactions, then we'll make our picks. She is coming off injury. Let's make sure we keep Red Panda. Okay, she's in the middle of NBA season right now. True. It's a prime calendar, get money year time for Red Panda. These Pogo Sticks boys, though, though?

Yeah, they could ball out. The Peru Pogo Stick, boys. Might get a Pogo stick. It's been a while. Something to think about. I mean, the heavy-duty ones, let me know. We have actually a pretty good little space. here for it. Yeah, we cut up this floor

though. Well, the industrial You get good. Non-scuffing, non-scuff. Well, the issue would be if there's any of the dust that kind of accrues down here, maybe from our ceiling. We're not 100% sure where the fuck it comes from. If you ain't scuffing, you ain't pogoing. Yeah, well, the scuffin, for sure, but I'm worried about the

Oh, yeah. Your feet taking out from underneath you. Well, a foot. Yeah. Well, technically, yeah. Yeah, peg. Peg, yeah. Stick. Mm-hmm. Single leg. Yeah, that's night night

Oh, head on the back of the ground Yeah Yeah, so that's only worry You know? Or a helmet Maybe you're right There you go Full helmet

Oh, I'll live in my fears Smart You're right Think you're a little bit different Than maybe everybody else in here You know, with your athleticism verse You know, we're talking about Got good athletes here

You do Have you thought about bone on that pogo stick? You remember him falling off the second rope National champion, ball? U-ball former champion? Have you guys defended yet? I haven't been cleared.

Still waiting. It has an upper body? No, lower body. If it was upper body, I'd play. I'm not a was. Commish. Got it. I'm not going to commission. That's the problem. There's no commissioner.

U-Ball has always been about the universe. It's never been about one person kind of deciding what it is. Yeah, it's up to you to vacate, of course, in that sense. be me and I will not be vacating. But there's been a full conversation amongst the U-Ball leadership group that there certainly should be a defense soon or a handover of the title. That has been happening. They said March.

That's what the leadership council said. No, leadership counsel did not say. You said, doctor said that to leadership counsel. It was said around leadership counsel. I know doctors have told me. I don't know if they told leadership counsel that. I mean, this injury would keep it. You literally told us earlier that.

it was going to be until March until the lower body injury was going to be back to when you thought you could maybe defend the type. For defense, I mean, normal person, this would keep him out until 27. But again, I'm not some worst. So, I mean, we can do that song and dance in March. I could vacate. He was on the sideline

of a college football playoff. Yeah, in pain. Dogs, bark. Legs, damn near falling off. But, I mean, shit, it's Texas. It's Texas football, baby. I'm not going to not be there. Well, what about U-Bow then? It's U-Bow, baby. I mean, look, I just don't want to lose a leg, okay?

I don't want to lose a foot, and that's possible they told me. Foxy, did you know that he could potentially lose a limb if he was played the U-Bow right now? Listen, I don't like this one bit, because if you recall, Pat, the only reason we lost the title was because Debutt looked us in the eyes when we didn't want to play a game. We were done with it. We had won 10,000 games in a row. And he said, you guys are fighting champs. You have to play. And I learned.

Sure, I guess we will, and then we lost two in a row. So that was some bull shite right there. And I learned from that. And I said, you know what, okay, you're right. I'm not going to play unless I know I'm at my peak physical, you know, performance. You said previous champions have worked way too much. And they've screwed it up. You know, they played hurt.

And I ain't doing that, okay? That's why your championship role will never be remembered. Is that right? No. Because mine might be the longest. And plus, sure, I'd rather not be remembered than be considered the John Sina era of you. Oh, geez. John Sina is one of the greatest of all time.

Not the good, not the good era. They're not talking about it in the good era. They are saying John Sina carried the entire, what's the biz doing now? They're talking about his last run, his shite run. Oh, you're talking about the final, the final. They're the poop run. No, it was good. The last time is now.

He wanted to stuck with like the emo, John. Yeah. You know, where there's no graphics or whatever it was. Heel, John. The emo, John? He was sad. I was just thinking of the walkout, like the sad, the black screen, I believe. Did he have an eyeliner on as well?

I don't recall. I don't think so. It's kind of like Bruce and I know. We kind of are like the Emo Sina Title Defenders. Trying to ruin the game. You're trying to ruin a game. Oh, whoa, whoa.

Yeah, he's trying to ruin anything. He's trying to ruin it. Oh, yeah, because he did say that during that era. Yeah. I'm not trying to ruin you ball. Look, look, you guys are trying to ruin you ball by making me play hurt. Yeah. That's what's the champions do?

That's how Foxy played through it. He rode his ankle twice. And what did he do? Cab was cramping. And what did he do? He lost the title. I'm not some fucking mark. No, I'm just going to play hurt and lose it.

We need to replace. We need to replace. Connor was someone else and because U-ball's a gentleman's game the community decides. No, no, that would make sense. It would kind of be up to you. I was just saying it would be the first time ever a three-person U-ball team.

Yes, exactly. That person would be subbing in for Connor is what you're saying. Conner's on IR. So I would pick my U-ball replacement. I think so. Okay. Yeah. Michael Jordan. Get them in here and we can continue this thing. It'd be so good, by the way. He'd be

so never fucking miss. If not Jordan, in LeBron, if not Bronn, Steve Nash. If not Steve Nash, John Stockton. What's Steph? Caruso? Caruso. Maybe you're going to have to see him play a little bit more. Okay, now on that note, Caruso, shout out to him filling in for us. Yeah, he's already filled in once.

I don't know if I want him filling in for me. He, thankful for him doing that. The Johnny Mansell thing, fascinating. Very, very fascinating. Because, you know, I think a lot of people made a huge deal out of it because it is Johnny Mansell. I think for us it was like we knew he was at the fight the night before. We kind of watched the fight and it was like, ah, that

could kind of happen. And then Caruso stepping up was just like a huge thing. I don't think I was ever offended. I don't know about anybody else, but I think it was just like, we don't really, we're like very appreciative whenever people decided to do the show. But I think a lot of people are trying to make it like this guy stood up. It's like

we're lucky. I saw Johnny's statement. Didn't he say he's recovering now? Something happened? Yeah, I don't know what happened. I had talked to him because whenever you put the entire thing, I'm sorry to Bubba, Pat, Desmond, and everybody there was like, yo, you don't have to apologize to us, brother. Like, we're just lucky that you were going to do it. Like, we're very thankful that anybody will do that. That's a lot of time out of your life. That's a trip to a place maybe that you don't live to go back. Like, it takes a lot for people to be

the picker. So, like, we're just very fucking grateful that anybody does it. That's how I feel, at least, I don't know how everybody else. I think everybody else on the set certainly feels that way. Like, we're just grateful somebody will do it. So I don't think there was anybody that was like super offended by Johnny like he was at a fucking fight in Miami last all right Johnny Manzo was out of fight in Miami it's like we assume that potentially had a good time wasn't able to make it

I think we're all like yeah understandable and then Caruso being there is like perfect got the fucking NBA champ here it's like and he was you know he was great too so he's great if Caruso was first choice we'd be fucking pumped so like it's uh I don't think probably A&M fans

I assume you know because he is the most probably well-known Texas A&M player ever. I mean, the first, you know, college football player for on campus. I hope, you know, T's and P's hope he's good, but I would assume that fan, baby. And also he was with Diego this year a lot, and there's, you know, all this type of stuff.

So I think there was potentially a feeling from the A&M faithful that he, you know, could have showed up for us, which I did see in the comments, and they're allowed to feel that way. Hey, however you feel. I'm just letting people know that he didn't have fucking apologize to me. Like, We're thankful anybody will fucking come up there and put themselves right into the fire.

Yeah, I think this team's going to lose. That team's fair. I'm never watching your fucking movie. All right. Thank you for coming up here. This is the most aggressive part of the show by far, by far. So thank you for doing this. Good luck.

You're going to be on the fucking score, but you better be. Because if you're on the other side, everybody's going to dunk on you. That's just what's going to happen. On that, you can get in there and kill it like Timothy Shalmay. Yes, he did. Shalomey, I remember forever. Unbelievable. Andy called Navarro in Ohio, getting a big.

I win, everybody else was the other way, and now he's Marty Supreme. That's right. And I guess that's crushing it? Yeah, at the box office, and I think at least early trends are indicating, like, they think that he's a lock for sure to get nominated for Best Actor for the Oscars, but a lot of people saying, like, oh, this is it, Timmy's winning an Oscar this year. Congrats to Tammy. We're big fans.

We appreciate him. Sorry about your Knicks. Well, they did win the NBA Cup. I was talking about last year. Yeah, yeah, sure. Because Pacers, I don't think of running in Knicks and the playoffs. You know, there was a lot of we'll see you next years at the end of that particular series. And I kept saying, you think you guys, you think you guys, little I know.

We'd be losing the guy, game seven of the finals shortly there afterwards. And I don't know if we're anywhere near that right now. Might need to be an MVP conversation, Tyrese. Yeah. We're talking about value. and what we're seeing and what we were watching. That's just like a few months ago, it seems like,

to what is now? Still love the board. They have one a few more recently. We don't talk about those. Those things, they're going up and to the right. Coach Carlos. Six and 22. Got a lot of time.

A lot of time. Straight couple together. Carlisle's going for 800 this year, right? Is it 800, 700? Yeah, it's a big one. He wins long age. And we like Coach Carlisle, but boy, six and 22 after going on game seven of the NBA.

finals is tough pill to swallow, especially with what Oklahoma City's doing. I guess Oklahoma City's only lost three games or something like that. And they lost like two out of their last three or something. So they start out 24 and one or something like that. I'm learning that on the set as Caruso comes up, I'm like, are you guys asked this

year like us? And he's like, yeah, we've lost two out of the last three, thanks. And then Stanford Steve's like, they were 24 and one before that. They were 24 and one before that. I'm like, you guys have only lost three games all season? And Cruz goes, yeah, but we've been, we've lost the last couple I'm like all you guys come back down earth.

Pacers are about to go I see you guys are really fucking good right now he goes yeah we're playing very good yeah I'm like good for you guys because we we felt that what game seven was like how about our city I know unbelievable how about everything I mean I was electrifying to experience that Oklahoma City they're saying same exact way remember their fans fucking heralded it's like they got something they got something oh yeah I guess Shay's still unstoppable yeah they're absurd well you know the second best team is oh oh Detroit

Basketball 22 and 6 Oh yeah Okay so we're back The Pistons lead the G League The Eastern Conference path Holy shit Cade Cunningham like that

Cade Cunningham's unbelievable He could start on the Olympic team right now He's been playing phenomenal Jalen Duren has been incredible Our coach J.B. Bickerstaff Who you saw on first take after we lost in the playoffs last year is an absolute dog

basically all those years for the Pistons being really bad they just had a bunch of top five picks and all those guys are growing up now and they're playing phenomenal and we're back to playing gritty defense like the O-4 Pistons did when we won the title and the bad boy Pistons. What's that?

Unfortunately, the Celtics they're really good still. Oh really? You guys didn't have Tatum? And guess who's coming back? Who? Jason Tatum. he coming back? Much sooner than everybody would have thought. Well, it's the deal. So that means

we're just a couple weeks behind, right? Because that's how when Tyrese was behind it? No, no. Unfortunately Tyrese does all the WWE Mickey Mouse bullshit. No. Jason Tatum just does PT and he falls his job. Yes, it is. And it's going to end up being Pistons versus Celtics. Winter plays

O'KC. All right. Well, we're excited about the NBA. We'll certainly pay attention to do it whenever their time comes. Boxing Day, the day after Christmas. It's time now to overreact around the world. I put out a tweet saying, hey, I can't wait to hear your fandom emotions. All you got to do is put a tweet out with the hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but... Tye scanned them and ended up being like the number two trend on X.

We can't thank you all enough for participating, but also we can't thank Ball enough for getting people in their feelings as much as it does. Let's get through these. I'll get to these. I'm sorry. Nate Moore at Nathan Moore, 08. Hashtack, I don't want to overreact, but... The jig is up. The news is out since Tomlin was fire. three weeks ago the Steelers have come alive though

they've gotten their swagger back Roger has commanded the offense and the defense flies boys we've got a shot I agree I agree and they don't have T.J. Watt out there and they're winning these games The jig is up the news is at Tomlin's showing it been fired potentially or the fan base maybe lit a fire, a little spark and you're welcome okay something like that but yes

they are flying around the boys they should apologize they should thank you as a fan digs that they're playing well right thank you AJ thank you yes okay and Aaron and the Aaron and the command of the offense I'm sure you'll get that an ex-presser from Tom I will yeah yeah

Johnny Smith went in motion last night and Aaron looked at him and said what the fuck are you doing and then pointed him back to where he was supposed to go it was awesome he is so much he does have command of the offense and so much like I love when he gets mad at everyone and then yes you should look at the demon on

third down was awesome last night. D.K. Get loose. Hopefully he's not out. No, it was... It feels like it's going to be... For sure. Yeah, it feels like just Sheper and Shreg's kind of set in the table today for, yep, this is what's happened. A lot of people say if he said what he said is deserved, but... He has come out

now. The fan with a blue wig has a statement through a lawyer that basically said, I categorically did not say what is being said that I said. So it's going to get very loud. Obviously, it's a big situation. But the Steelers are rolling. They, Jay Gaze up, the news is out

Tomlin finally found his fire. That's what you guys are saying. Yes. All right, maybe that's the case. Let's go to the next one from the Ravens at D. Klemkoski. Hashtag I don't want to react, but... The Ravens are on the cusp of completing the most

disappointing season in NFL history. Derek Henry nod in on the final two drives. The most incompetent coaching decision of all time. Lamar shall refuse to play until Hardball is fired. A lot of this, Ty? All of this. There's really nothing other than hey, the jig is up. Hardball stinks. Let's get him out of here.

They're saying hardbo. that's a fc north football baby let's go to the next one shall we this is from uh patient hawks fan at bradley hellberg that's good uh bedhead redemption sam don't know hashtag i don't want to react but does he see the paranormal sure does he give up a few sure does he not know the throw the ball away and take unnecessary sacks sure does he clutch the hell up in the biggest moments and drive your team to victory against the NFL's best you're damn right he does Donald, Redhead Redemption. Shout to the Seattle Seahawks.

Proud of McDonnell, proud of Sam Donald. Obviously, a gigantic Thursday night. One of the most epic games that we've seen, obviously, all year. Sam Donald shows up in a massive moment. Two-point conversions, interestingly handled. And the Seattle Seahawks now, NFC West favorites, number one overall seed favorites. And nobody could have predicted this

with everything that had been happening over the last two years. Congratulations, Seahawks fans. So the next one is from Trey Hagland at Hagland, Trey. The S-O-L, which means same old lines are all the way back. Campbell and Goof can take a damn hike. Ben Johnson was the reason why the lions were successful. Now the Bears own the North. You will not hear another golf chant in Detroit.

It's over. Hashtag go wings. Hashtag go pistons. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. Congrats to you, Foxy. I'm happy about this. Is this how everybody feels up there? No, this guy's wrong.

Golf is not the problem. He had 360 yards, three touchdowns, no turnovers yesterday. St. Brown's still playing good. J-Mo's good. Our marquee guys are fine. We just need an offensive line and we'll be back in the dance next year. They just forget that Gibbs is on their team. Sometimes they, after the game, they're like, oh shit, forgot about Jemir Gibbs.

He's one of our players on this play. All right. Last one here from the overreaction world. It's from Apes Nose Ball. Hashtag I don't want to react, but... How about them Cowboys? Just another season where America's team takes a big fat dump on its fan base. Trade away Michael Parsons,

let the defense get torched again and got walked like a dog by the Chargers at home to miss the playoffs for the second straight year. Big games, lose them. Big time players, trade them. Playoffs, miss them. This team is ducky. The Cowboys have wasted all their fans' lives under the age of 30. With that said, next year is our year.

Hashtag I wasted my life. And that is basically overreaction Monday in a nutshell. We appreciate that from all your fans. Let's make our picks for tonight, AJ, you and me tied. Tide, 7-7-1. 77-1, not bad, not bad. Now, obviously, we're looking to go over 500 here, both of us. Debutt, who's your pick?

How do you like it? Tonight, Niners, favored by five and a half in Lucas Oil Stadium. I'll be quick. I'll be a homer. The Colts. J.T. has a big game. Philip Rivers does, too. I pick the Colts as well.

AJ, who do you like? Do you like it? Yeah, obviously, if I want to win this, I cannot pick the Colts. But I am going to take the Niners here. But I am a bit worried about J.T. running on this Niners defense, but I'm taking the Niners. All right. I appreciate you doing that for the good of ball and for the good of the pick segment. That's A.J. Hawk, the boys are all here.

D. Butt, we appreciate the hell out of you. We hope you have an incredible Christmas week. Happy holidays. Ball is great. And we're lucky to do this. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together.

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