The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1476 - Merry Quizmas, MNF Recap, BA Day with Bruce Arians, Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning, Dan Orlovsky, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by 3x Super Bowl Super Bowl Champion, and former HC of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians as the...y recap Monday Night Football and the 49ers rolling the Colts, and AQ and BA square off in a Merry Quizmas. Also joining the progrum is the Head Coach of the Oregon Ducks, Dan Lanning, to chat about their win over James Madison, and their upcoming game against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our holly jolly, humble abode, the Thunderdum. On this Merry Christmas Tuesday, December 23rd, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It's magical, and last night wasn't the greatest time watching the Indianapolis Colts defense not be able to stop the San Francisco 49ers offense as the San Francisco 49ers continue their road to maybe the number one overall seed in the NFC in a massive win. hot house, beating the Indianapolis Colts. And I'll tell you what, boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We're in the building. It was electrifying. The halftime show, Red Panda buried six bulls on top of her head as they tried to light her up in the middle of her backswitch. So I will say the Extreme Pogo team from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, crushed it. The jugglers from Peru, Indiana, absolutely crushed it. And Red Panda crushed, obviously that's what she does. The drumline did their thing.
Starting point is 00:00:57 It was a spectacular evening in Lucas Oil. stadium. Anytime you have Red Panda at the 50, with 75,000, sounded like maybe 25, 30,000, San Francisco, 49 fans as well. Everybody was at attention. That's only five bowls. She would go on to do six bowls.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Obviously, it was a special time. Lights. I don't like that. Jeez. That's what the halftime. Because there is a halftime ending time. I think the NFL indicates when it is. So you actually heard the MC in the
Starting point is 00:01:29 stadium, the PA announcer come out and say, that's the halftime carnival. And it was like, no, it's not. We're all watching Red Panda right now about to hit the grand finale here. And Red Panda didn't have her normal music. It was a different remix, different songs. She wasn't on her normal platform. She was out in the middle of a turf field on top of a stage that was kind of just put on top of it. She had the lights go on in the middle of it. No music at all, because I think she does do rhythm. Like, I think that is kind of her thing. No music at all, warm-ups back on the field, basically. delivers six for six up there. Yeah, I think Red Panda's throwing a fastball and so is Brock Birdie. Watching him deal all night was insane because you don't really realize the size of
Starting point is 00:02:10 Brock Purdy until you see him. He is not tall, okay? He is not tall at all. I would say what Brock Purdy is able to do is so much more impressive because of how he is built. He is built like an ox. Now he is, he's thick. He's obviously an incredible athlete, but there are plenty of times where he can't see a damn thing and he is just throwing it to a spot at a time and every time seemed to be right on the money. I mean the Joanne Jennings touchdown was right
Starting point is 00:02:37 in front of our face. It appeared as if he was throwing that late and out of bounds. Instead, perfect fingertip grab by Joanne Jennings, who's also a monster, I would like to say. Now, he was playing against a guy wearing number 43 at corner. Okay, sure. So no offense to him, but he had a long night.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Our corners certainly had a long night. But I think a lot of corners are going to have problems with the way Brock Purdy is spinning it. Don't like the, it's Christmas week. Yeah, come on. We don't need to be doing that, Juan. Grinching. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It was very smooth, too. Like, it was very perfectly executed. Yeah, it was a good sell. Juan Jennings, yeah, he's bought about it for sure. But what I took away from last night, Brock Purdy is remarkable. Like, obviously they paid him $200 million for a reason. And what that offense looks like with him at quarterback, as opposed to anybody else, is crazy that I was even potentially leading into a conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:27 and maybe Mac Jones would be a quarterback for this team going forward. He's outrageous. George Kittle, seemingly unguardedable. He had an ankle late. I texted with him afterwards and said, that's cool that you're just unguardable today. And I saw you, he figured, I was like, don't you start. You knew I was going to have to be there. Obviously, it's an Indianapolis Colts thing.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I think we all assume George Kittle is going to be okay. I think he walked off the field. He's an incredibly tough guy. Watching him block and also be wide open all the time, crazy. Christian McCaffrey, he all get tired. I don't know how this guy doesn't get tired. He's run on his coconut husk all over the place. They're giving him the ball all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And he's seemingly never ever tired. And he never celebrates. It's just like literally a workhorse. Like that he is a robot, a machine. And you talk about 44, this super genius use check who's a fullback. He's all, before every play, he's all over the place. And then it's right off his ass, whatever's happening. It's like Trent Williams?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, right. This dude's 30 yards down the field. He's 37-year-old. It's like watching that offense, I think we forget in this particular space. they can still be the number one seed in the NFC. They lose Fred and Bose on the defensive side. A lot of us just say, like, can't win. Salah's a genius.
Starting point is 00:04:34 They've got a defense that smothered Jonathan Taylor. I mean, we weren't able to run at all. 16 carries, I think, for 46 yards with a long as 7 or something like that. That is not how we're going to win any games. But we could have, because Bill Rivers was out there spinning it. Bill Rivers was breaking down the defense doing his check. So I think if you were to ask me going into a Monday night football game with the situation that we're in now, no sauce gardener, no Mooney,
Starting point is 00:04:57 Like, what's going to be the downfall you think tonight? The easy answer would be the 44-year-old guy who's not, I don't know if I like what the Indiana Knights uniform was doing for Phil Ripps. I don't think it was, he does look good. He does look fat. We saw him on sideline. I thought he was a captain for a second. Well, everybody was a captain.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't know. I don't think I love the sea on everybody's chest, but I understand it is a cool jersey. Everybody should have it. And it's a state of Indiana on the inside of the sea there. So it's a part of the design of everything like that. There it is. But, like, Phil Rivers last night, not only was he dealing and spinning and breaking it out defense, they show him on the Jumbotron.
Starting point is 00:05:32 He got massive thank you, I think, for what he did in 2020 from all of us. Literally, this is the first time he ever got a real chance to experience a Lucas Oil Stadium with fans, any Colts fans at all. They put him up on the Jumbotron, and every single time it was like, hey, thank you, Phil, for doing what you're doing. And also what you did do whenever we were all trapped inside watching from afar. He also got into it. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Let's go, baby, doing it all. The fact that we lost because we couldn't get a stop, I mean, they had no punts, no punts at all. We did have a turnover, which I guess is possible in the Brock Purdy offense, especially thrown over the middle with his size. That is the tiny disadvantage, but I think everything else that Brock Purdy does is elite. I mean, it was just an elite operation watching him live in person. Debutt, your thoughts from watching it, defense is not able to get a stop. Phil Rivers in the offense, I think manage.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Special teams turnover made it a shootout, I think, early for all of us, can't have it. your takeaway from last night. Yeah, defense, our defense was definitely the most disappointing. You talked about the injuries that we have at corner. But, you know, everybody's dealing with injuries at week 16. But, yeah, the San Francisco 49 offense was just a well-oil machine. Brock Purdy, it seemed like he was hitting, you know, whatever he wanted. It looked like routes on air.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So you talk about Shanahan's offense, just how comfortable Brock Purdy is in it. He can make all the throws. And then when the throw is in there, the pocket breaks down, he can break the pocket and make a throw as well. but he had matchups. He had matchups all over the place. Obviously, you know, not many linebackers in the NFL can guard, Christian McCaffrey 1-on-1, took advantage of that.
Starting point is 00:07:01 George Kittle, you mentioned if he didn't get hurt, he probably was on his way to a career day, just like Brock Purdy was with five touchdown passes. So it was tough. It came out. Look, Phil came out, gave us a chance. First player of the game, he took a shot down to Phil. He was like, okay, I like that. He sent it a message early.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Don't sit on everything. Don't keep everything tight. And had Alec Pierce involved early. He had two touchdowns. Office showed up and tried. Once again, the run game was smothered. Hats off to Phillip Rivers. This is one of those things that people or us,
Starting point is 00:07:29 we sit on the couch maybe a year, maybe two, maybe three years after. Maybe I can get back out there and do something. To see him doing this five years removed from the game at 44 years old is unbelievable. His family being in the suite, that was cool. Big sweet, obviously. It was unfortunate that we got our ass kicked like we did, man.
Starting point is 00:07:45 This was a tough, tough watching that second half. Phil Rivers also last person out of the locker room. He was in there with Jonathan Taylor. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor has rough night. He was talked about as an MVP earlier in the year. Not really as much now. Tyler Warren also not as big of a detriment as he was earlier in this season. Not for a lack of trying, though.
Starting point is 00:08:03 They were trying to feed him. Tyler Warren took like four massive shots. Huge. I think Tyler Warren's going to fall into the category of, like, Gronk. Because he's so big, people, you're a lot of space for huge shots. Like, Gronk used to take huge collisions. And, you know, he was so athletic and, burr-bur, nobody really judged it. But he would be getting smacked and just continue to go.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I think Tyler Warren's going to fall into that with his career. I'm excited to see how that all goes because he obviously has a lot of potential. And potential is a great word for this Niners team. I'm watching them. And I'm like, I don't know. They are they a really good football team. Oh, yeah. They can do it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 What about the deal coach? Yeah, it's like they can do it. What they did, now granted, Phil Rivers had success. Yeah. So people are going to say, a guy that was on a couch for five years had success against your defense. You don't have bossy. You don't have Warner. They're going to hold that against them.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But remember, Phil Rivers, Seattle, also potentially the number one scene in the MC. Last week comes down to a 56-yard field goal. It's like the guy can still spin it and he still understands what your defense is doing. Yeah, like there's things that he's going to be able to accomplish. So I think people that are just kind of saying Phil Rivers is ass cheek. So if he's having success against you, that doesn't mean you're good. It's like I think they were able to tighten down. Remember the thing about them was they give up the run.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They give up the run. They give up the run. They were dominating us up front in the run game. I mean, Jonathan Taylor, maybe earlier in the season, would have been able to escape some of those things with maybe like a bounce out or something like that, bounce off. But there was little to nothing. Nothing. I mean, there was little to nothing for Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And then on the flip side, Christian McCaffrey, this dude sees a hole. And it is canon, actually. And he doesn't, he gets up and just like kicks his shoes, kicks his cleats to make sure they're tight still. And then he just walks right back to the huddle. It's not like, oh, I just had my longest run of the year at 24 yards, which he did last night.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He had the longest run of his season at 24 yards. or something like that late in the game here at is right here off of the left and he just doesn't even care just gets back in there hey we're going to give you the ball a hundred more times doesn't care just gets back in there and he's healthy he was unbelievable to watch live yeah it's crazy what he does in the past game i think he's 163 yards away from a thousand yards receiving he went over a thousand yards rushing he'd be the first player ever with multiple seasons of both a thousand yards receiving and rushing but they do they have one of if not the most complete offense in the NFL. I think the big worry to what you guys were just talking about is with how
Starting point is 00:10:23 complete some of the other teams are in the NFC on offense and defense. That's where you struggle. But I mean, with the two games they have left both at home, everyone's already said it this week. They can just play home games all the way through the Super Bowl. And that is a huge possibility. But the other thing that impressed me with Brock Purdy, that was insane, is it's almost as if he knows what his matchups are as well. Like whether it's zone or not, this one right here. Like he knows, hey, Kittles down there and he trusts his guy over whatever linebacker or safety or corner, yeah, are there.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And that's almost even more impressive. Like, sure, he knows his spots to throw to, but he also knows, like, yep, whoever's on my guy here, I feel like my guy's going to win. You know, you lose one sense, you gain another. The Pest said it, John Leguizamo. He doesn't have the size, okay, that some people have. So he has to have everything else at a very high level. understanding a defense pre-snap
Starting point is 00:11:16 is certainly one of those things. Digesting it and also knowing what the best option is for the offense that you're about to run, certainly a part of it. His command of the huddle, too. I mean, it's like... Trent Williams. That was his big takeaway.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Bro, you watch him. He's like, because obviously, Trent Williams, these dudes are all gigantic. Kittle fucking gigantic. CMC is like an actual superhero build. Jennings, you mentioned. All of them that are big. So Purdy in that huddle, like where we're sitting at.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And in the... Anytime he's thrown in a... pocket, he cannot, he cannot see who's getting the ball. He's just assuming, old buddy, because of the pre-snap read, because of what is supposed to happen, where we've worked on so much. It's like, watching him break it down, and I know the immediate comparison would be Drew Breeze, but it's like, Drew Breeze had to be cerebral. Drew Breeze had to have perfect timing. Drew Breeze had to have all these things. Good finding of windows. That's a talent that not everybody has of where he can throw through. Even taller quarterback struggle with that. If you
Starting point is 00:12:12 You can't get it past a D-line. It's like Brock Purdy has to have super elite all that shit because he doesn't have the six foot four frame that some quarterbacks have especially behind that offensive line that they have. But everything else watching, it's like this guy's special, like this is a special talent. The moxie, bro, the bounce that he has in between plays. It's like, he looked like a $50 million quarterback. Yes, you know what you think about a quarterback that's making $50 million,
Starting point is 00:12:38 that's what it looks like. And obviously, you know, him being small, you talk about these different quarterback's having their different superpowers, his post-snap and pre-snap operation has been his superpower. He's been small his whole life. You know, all these guys that get to this level, whether it's Kyle Murray, Bryce Young, you know, Drew Brees, they've been small their whole life just like in other sports. So they've been able to maneuver and make it work. And he does it. And the years prior, when he was having these great years, everybody always tried to give someone else to credit. Hey, they got a huger. They got this guy. They got that guy. And now with them, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:09 guys in and out of their lineup and Brock Purdy still doing his thing, very, very impressive. Yeah, and we've heard, like, you know, since he's coming to the league, how good of a teammate he is, how much these guys respect him. But to your point, like, over the last couple weeks since he came back from the injury and he's felt like he's fully healthy, I think we are starting to see a little bit more out of him. Like, after he got paid, he's not just, you know, he might still be that kind of mild-mannered
Starting point is 00:13:32 guy who went to Iowa State and doesn't like to be in the limelight. But, like, you can tell he understands, like, this is my team. This is my team now. And he's starting to kind of do some of the things that he made. maybe wasn't doing a couple years ago when it was kind of like, hey, he's just happy to be here. He's got all these weapons. Now I think he understands, like, hey, when I'm playing at my best, like, I am just
Starting point is 00:13:52 as crucial to this offense as a guy like CMC or Kittle or any of these other guys. Yeah, I mean, it was unbelievable. Watching it live was outrageous. Now, the immediate shot is the Colts' defense's ass. Which? I mean, once again, I think Brock Purdy and the Niners are going to do that to two defenses. I think they are going to make teams look like ass. I think there's obviously going to be defenses.
Starting point is 00:14:13 They're going to play well against Brock Brady, and there's going to be games where they're not clicking. But if they were clicking on all cylinders, which it felt like they were. CMC was going, George was going, Ushcheck was going, the offense, the line was going. Now granted, is that because the defense,
Starting point is 00:14:28 or is that because they were all balling on a Monday night? A little bit of both. Yeah, whatever the case. But the Colts could not get to stop to save their lives. I mean, that was, and it's an interesting thing because against Sam Darno, just a week ago against Seattle Seahawks, they weren't bad. No, right.
Starting point is 00:14:42 They kept it very low, walk-off field goal, and that was without the Forrest Buckner. We get the Forrest-Buckner back this week. We still don't have corners. Brock Purdy and Shannon, I think, knew that. I think they certainly knew that they could potentially get it whenever they want. If we can get CMC rolling as well, that'll be an insane process. But now the conversation, yeah, zero puns. Thomas Moore said, that guy and I got drafted in the same class.
Starting point is 00:15:02 What the hell? That man taught me how to punt right there. Thomas Morsted, the guy on the right there. he is at an SMU big brain guy I met him at a kicking camp after my junior year and it was my first ever real kicking camp I ever went to Connor Lee, kicker for Pitt
Starting point is 00:15:19 a friend of mine growing up from soccer and beadling and things like that Sean Lee's older brother he was like hey why don't you come out this kicking camp I go to and I was like I don't do kicking camps am I hanging out with a bunch of these people okay that is not
Starting point is 00:15:31 makes sense yeah that is not what I'm trying to get into that's not how I'm trying to spend my life I don't know a lot of them but I know that's not really my thing, I don't think. He's like, come on, come on, cool people. He was right. Thank God I went out there.
Starting point is 00:15:44 A bunch of cool people. Jamie Cole was a guy running the kicking camp. And on the first night, I, as a young lad with a very strong leg, always just thought that I could do stuff that nobody else could do with the ball. I mean, in high school, I was kicking it on fields where NFL kickers were on, and I was 10 yards behind them booting it over their head. So it's like I've always had very, very strong leg here, worked on it. spent my entire childhood most of my childhood when I wasn't out doing stuff because I
Starting point is 00:16:11 didn't play video games because I had ADD didn't watch movies or TV because Tim had control of the TV usually it wasn't great and then I got into wrestling and things like that so I literally just kick a soccer ball off the side of my house saw David Beckham hit like a hundred miles an hour in the World Cup I'm like that's sick that'd be cool to be able to do so I've always had a really strong leg really really strong leg now granted because of all that blew out my knees probably you know you know Rob Peter in the back end to pay Paul up there in the beginning but I always had a strong leg so I get to this kicking camp and I think see on the other field some mule-looking human doing stuff with a ball that I couldn't do punting
Starting point is 00:16:43 wise and I'm like who the fuck is that thing over there so I go over and meet him super nerd at SMU okay but like a tough alpha nerdy dude who has legs that come up to here moms I believe from England okay so I don't think she wanted to play football he wanted to play football so I think like punting position became the thing because he started kicking and like his entire life he has been just a punter like a great punter while all also pursuing other things. So he took me under his basic wing, and we've hammered hundreds of beers together.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I mean, you're talking about hundreds of beers together, and he's one of the main reasons why I ever had a punning career, him alongside Jamie Cole. And because this is potentially his last year, which is a convo, last night, Jamie Cole and a big group from the Cole's kicking camper there to watch him, they hung out. I got a chance to see him, take a picture with him.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It was just a cool, like, full circle-type moment, and he punted zero time. I saw him out here last night. Yeah, well, a lot of us wish we would have saw him one time. Hold an extra points. Had a good warm-up, though. I would say for how old he is, okay, he had a 5-2 and a 5-1 last night. I think of warm-ups.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I was, like, timing, and so was Brant Boyer, our former special teams guys. They were special teams guys. So he's hitting the ball, like, just as good as he was 15, 16 years ago. So it was cool to watch, cool to meet up with him. But he doesn't give a damn. And, yeah, people are saying because he hasn't punted since November, he's doing this on a side of it's like standard operating procedure is doing
Starting point is 00:18:10 drops on a side of like his legs though come all the way up to here he is built like a punter and that face mask is obviously hey I'm punting credible is yeah he is a dog dude he works out so hard like he's like very obsessed with working out still doing it we used to kick in the off seasons together
Starting point is 00:18:28 and he'd be flipping tires to warm up okay he'd be taking it I'd be rolling in there maybe a little hungover a tad high maybe, you know, depending upon what time it was and what we did the night before. I'm walking out on the field. All right. Let's see how this ball's
Starting point is 00:18:44 turning over today, you know? He's flipping tires, taking pre-workout over on the side, high knees, running sprints, jumping, doing the entire thing. And then it's like, oh, shit, he's trying to bury me right now. Like, this guy is trying to bury me right now. So, like, even when he was doing those things, he
Starting point is 00:19:00 made me better. So it's like, I love Thomas Moorstead. It was great to see him. He might not punt ever again with the way that offense. is looking to be 100% clear. And, yeah, last night was a special night in the Lod House, but we're one in five now Monday Night Football Games at home. Did anybody watch the other cast? The nerd cast.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah, I could understand a word they were saying because they all just started yelling at each other. But Kikley, Kikley is incredible. He does know what the hell he's talking about. Every single play, it feels like. And you mentioned how AJ watches the game as a linebacker and you asked him about it yesterday. Like, Kikley, sure, he watches it as a linebacker,
Starting point is 00:19:40 but I do believe he has the ability, rather, to actually be playing middle linebacker while calling the football game. Yeah, this is the one thing from yesterday. He called the pick six, which, you know, is what it is. He said quick pass to the tight end, I believe right here. Yeah, because there was an Orlando call. Rivers called Orlando, Orlando, and Kikla Bates was like, yeah, he's about to throw a hook.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This should be a pick six. I mean, it's incredible what Kikli was doing. But this is, it was a cool little alternate cast for sure. Yeah, and Sean Lee's company, alternative Connor Lee's brother, Sean Lee's brother, adrenaline is running the stats and the AI and the model behind it. And then he got Luke Kikley also linebackers. So, and then you got Dano in there. Feels like they're trying to weaponize and utilize every technology that we have
Starting point is 00:20:27 to inform people on what ball is. Here's Luke Kikley and the Oculus, by the way. And yes, exactly what you think is happening here with Luke. Kee Klee is happening. They're going to do this. It's going to do this. As soon as I see this, I know this. It's like, I'm happy Luke's getting an opportunity to display this because this type of football brain type stuff
Starting point is 00:20:44 is not normal and it's awesome to watch. Insert clip NFL films just put out from Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers and the Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win over the Detroit lines. Aaron Rogers and Pittsburgh Steelers can have a home playoff game and potentially, hey, here we go.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Stalers. Here we go. Pittsburgh could go to the Super Bowl. Here we go. That's what they're thinking, as they should. Huge win over the Detroit Lions. And now we're getting footage of Aaron Rogers basically being the quarterback of, you know, not only the past, but certainly of today for the Pittsburgh Steelers, in complete control of the situation.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And everybody remembers Gainwell's touchdown from the game, where he makes that insane catchdown to right sideline. ball hits his forearm, bounces up, he catches it, nobody touches him. So that was obviously a great play call by Artie Smith, right? Well, watch how this thing actually comes together. This side, this side, I'm going to flat to the right. Right. Motion all the way out, we're going to go, all the way out. Roger is off his back foot, throws it down the way.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And look at Gainwell. And he scored. touchdown. He catch it. He catch it. Excellent. He caught it. I mean, I don't think he was touched. I think this might be a touchdown, Jim. I mean, Gainwell thinks he has it. This could be a touchdown. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I told you this running back is like a wide receiver. So, whenever you think about this type of access, obviously shot the NFL films and on inside the NFL, now on X's a clip show. Good move. and this type of access is unbelievable. What did Aaron see? Why did that happen? Is it normal? Guys are just playing backyard football in the middle of the biggest moments, in the middle of the biggest
Starting point is 00:22:42 games at the quarterback position? Yeah, you talk about biggest moments. This is right, this is the two minute right before the half, so 11 seconds, I believe, is left in the clock. Right now, as soon as he comes out of the huddle, if you pause it here, he sees DJ Reid over on the number three wide receiver, so he knows it's man-to-man coverage. I believe that's Muth up top to his
Starting point is 00:22:58 right. He sees the lineback on him as well. So he knows right now Kenneth Gainwell has a one-on-one matchup with Anzolone down the field. So he just tells him, hey, go out here and run a go. Now, right now it looks like split safety on defense. Post-snap wants the ball to snap, it'll go to single high. So a post-safety in the middle of the field. So knows, once again, I have a one-on-one on the outside,
Starting point is 00:23:17 and he just gets back there and rips it. Now, you ask, is it normal? I would say no, but when you have a quarterback that's been in the game for as long as he's been, I'd be interested to know where Artie Smith was actually when Aaron took his first snap as a start of three years in the league. But like when you have that type of relationship or even like Philip Rivers or staff or these guys that's been around the NFL so long, they have this type of freedom, I would assume, to make these adjustments and calls.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And we all know the play caller to quarterback, that communication goes out at 15 seconds on the clock. So everything after that is on the quarterback. So I just love seeing this, love hearing this mic up, seeing this actual access. And then even the part of, hey, that's a touchdown. Like he got up. He didn't get touched. So all of that, Tomlin's reaction when he was like, touch. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:24:00 he called it. It was just all awesome. Yeah, I think the special part about it all is the fact that it works, but also Gainwell, he tells them to go to the flat first. Yes. And then without correcting or saying anything, he goes, motion all the way out and run a go. Gainwell says, you got it. All right. Yeah, there is all buy-in.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Dan Rolovsky broke down another play earlier from this game. Jalen Warren's long pitch touchdown. Basically, there's a safety. If you listen to Dan Rolovsky's breakdown, there's a safety that's certainly supposed to fill or fill in a a gap over here, be a part of it. Aaron Roger sees that guy high, knows that he's potentially supposed to take the pitch away, and he decides to tell D.K. Metcalfe,
Starting point is 00:24:38 hey, actually run a bubble, dude, to get this safety the hell out of here. Right before the snap, he looks over with D.K., gives him a hand signal to run a bubble, takes the safety out of the plate. Then Jalen Warren has a wide open. It's like this dude, it's this guy versus the defense right now, is what it feels like. And if you have Aaron Rogers battling against a defense, I think the way he would view it, and he should for all these years,
Starting point is 00:24:58 is like by the second half or fourth quarter, like I'll figure it out. Like I think that's why games are close with Aaron Rogers. And then you hear Coach Mike McCarthy talk about like, a lot of these games come down in two minutes. There's nobody I really like against two minutes more in Aaron Rogers. I mean, he knows what the defense is doing. So I think just like anything or anybody that's like super smart,
Starting point is 00:25:16 he's calibrating all game. And then he is like every play is the first 15 for him to see what you're doing. And then once he's got you, it feels like they at least have given him the freedom. Whatever you think works, let's go ahead and do that. and maybe this is the meetings that he was talking about earlier in the year maybe like in these meetings
Starting point is 00:25:32 he's trying to tell him like hey a second and a half before the ball is snapped I might see something and I tell you this I need you to know that and do that okay I don't care how much success you've had I need you to do what we need to be
Starting point is 00:25:45 on the same page in the same page is when I say something I need you to do it and it feels like the Steelers have bought in completely that's the biggest difference of like being a pro because in the college level you don't have a ton of this
Starting point is 00:25:55 I'm sure you have some of it but when you get to the NFL and you get into these meetings and you're preparing for games. Like, it's a back and forth conversation between the players and the coaches to be comfortable on the same page. It happens with quarterbacks, of course, but it happens with linebackers, safety, scoring. I'm sure Luke Keakley had this same type of freedom on defense, you know, with Thomas Davis or other players that he's play. Hey, I know this was called, but I see this. I see this formation.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I may be looking at a split or looking at somebody's eyes that, hey, actually you go. I'm going to drop and you make those late adjustments. But this is the biggest part and the biggest difference when people talk about being a pro is what. what's happening after that play is given from the coach to the players, and then they have the freedom to kind of massage it to make it be perfect. But being a pro is all the work that takes to get to that point. Because you've got to have the trust. And about a film to be able to call that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:40 You've got to know your shit. Go ahead. And that could be a big reason why the offense has kind of taken off in the last few weeks since Dieland has been in the starting lineup, since MVS has been in the starting lineup. Those are the veteran guys that are used to running or Dieland is not used to playing with Aaron, but he's a veteran-wide receiver. He knows what he's supposed to do. But since they've been in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:27:01 it feels like Aaron's been a lot more comfortable on where his receivers are going to be. And allegedly, they've had their best weeks of practice over the last couple of weeks. That might just be literally. Hey, we're all buying in. They're going to need the demon. Yeah, they're going to need the demon.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But they're also going to need Aaron to beat these defenses. Like, there's really good defenses on the horizon in this playoffs. I think that is a matter of a fact, as opposed to, like, one or two good defenses. It's like everybody that's going to be in the playoffs seemingly has one. Well, and showing that on tape, like this week with the bubble, like, hey, go, head, D.K., run the bubble, and then, you know, we're going to toss it. I mean, next week,
Starting point is 00:27:31 he's probably going to throw it. It's one of those things where now the defense has to prepare for the toss and the bubble screen, and then let alone all the gain well, you know, stuff. Hey, when he motions out, he's probably going to go deep. Well, what happens if this time it's a stop and go or it's a curl or it's a slant? It's like the setting up also within the game is sweet, but from week to weeks, the setups are insane. Yeah, Luke Kikley talked about that when he was on the show last week. He was like, whenever they're doing something, I'm thinking, are they showing me that this early? What are they trying to do with it later?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Luke Keeckley, though, he's hosting a show right now, doing it. This is not like a normal thing that happens. It takes a lot of work and a very special talent in between the years to be able to get to this position. And I think we saw that out of Phil Rivers last night. Now, a man who's about to compete in the first ever
Starting point is 00:28:17 Merry Christmas. What? The what? The Merry Quizmas. What is that? Yeah, it's a special thing. We'll get into that a second. But one of the competitors, one of the contestants is you're going to try to win $10,000 to charity they're choosing. A set of trivia questions that are all around ball, but
Starting point is 00:28:33 certainly a good time. As soon as he walked into the building this morning, he said I knew Phil Rivers calls by halftime. So he doesn't consider himself like a savant. He was basically just like, I guess he would be considered that, actually. I don't think he would consider that.
Starting point is 00:28:49 He said, but boy, it was easy to pick up what he was doing. I mean, that was pretty genre-based and by half-time, I knew what he was doing. And so, Luke Kinkley, on the stat cast being like, Orlando, yep, this is this. Phil, I think we're going to have to change it. I think we have to change things. But honestly, there's only certain ways
Starting point is 00:29:07 that you can go about doing something. You know, like left and right can only be called a different way. Is it cities in different parts of the country? Is it different musicians from different places? Is there different? Like, once you catch the genre of the code words, it does become something that's like, okay, pretty usable. Five years ago, there's a chance, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. they might figure you all some of these co-words. Sure. Okay, we just need to go back. I've been a part of a brainstorm for new hand signals and code words before. It's awesome in there. I mean, it is a writer's room. They are, oh, I could see how we could sell that as something.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You know, like dig, classic start with like you're digging. But then, okay, what can we move off of this? What do you do afterwards? Well, you do this as well. And then actually you can kind of take that thing with your left hand and then kind of sit on that thing. Yeah, how do we sell this to everybody? He's going to dig here.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Well, you can't do that, actually. Yeah, that's actually, you can't. Don't wipe your nose. Can't pick bugs or wipe your nose. Yeah, and we like the kids that are watching. He's not their cocaine arena. Okay, and that's not gang affiliated. No.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's a gang thing, too? Slime, dude. Yeah, well, the booger gang up there in Detroit. Yeah. They've been trying to flick those things all over the books. But you can't wipe her nose in any manner. Remember, that was a part of the bylaws of the unsportsmanlike conduct. in the NFL state because it is considered it was cause
Starting point is 00:30:31 f yep yep down there important one more you know the mo you know speaking who knows the most ladies and gentlemen it's time for merry quism now because of the scheduling and because of the holiday and what day of the week christmas follows on you know some of our weekly visitors uh shifted days we just so happen to have two people that we absolutely love in the thunderdome at the same time what's the best way to make content with two people. Boom, have them battle. Boom, in what? Trivia. Ladies and gentlemen, we introduce Merry Quism. Hell yeah. There will be seven questions, okay, for our two
Starting point is 00:31:08 contestants. There will be a $10,000 donation to a charity of the winner's choice. There will be one double opportunity per contestant. They'll get one point per answer, but these points, you know, easy come, easy go. Sure. They will be handwritten, fill in the Blake type. answers. There will be multiple lifelines that they could use. They can phone a front of the program. Okay, they will face time a friend of the program. We do not know who that will be until the moment comes. It'll be a surprise friend of the program.
Starting point is 00:31:37 They can ask the show, that's the rest of the boys. They're up here. They can take a mulligan, which is a putt on the green, if they get a question wrong. And they can, let's chat that, which is get an answer, an overwhelming answer, from the YouTube chat. Okay. So the YouTube chat obviously has a chance to
Starting point is 00:31:53 maybe win somebody, $10,000 to a charity of their choosing, or lead them astray. These will be sports questions, football questions, majority of them. And the two contestants are obviously a fantastic duo. Introducing first, ladies and gentlemen, this man was a football coach for 47 years. He's a Super Bowl champion, baby. And he's a man who has joined us every single week this season on Tuesdays bringing a heat, bringing his stories, bringing stories that you need to know. not just the stories that he wants to tell.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Ladies and gentlemen, touch Bruce Arias. B.A. has brought a friend with him, I believe that is, a little bit of a whiskey. He'll be the contestant on the Grinch's side. In joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who, obviously, we love. A man who is as round as he is jolly.
Starting point is 00:32:47 He's a man who signifies the holiday season as a whole. Because not only did he just get done celebrating Hanukkah, He's also about to celebrate the hell out of Christmas. Well, welcome to Quismus. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, A.K. Shippling. Hey, thank you. Thank you. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Is that booing? Tony. I don't know if we got any heat around here, but. I do know that we have an incredible opportunity to showcase too. Fine, gentlemen, how you doing? Ships? Fantastic. Fist bump.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Thank you. Coach, how you doing? Good to see you, coach. You look amazing. Happy Holidays, Merry Quismus. Happy holidays to everybody out there, baby. Merry Quismus. How do you feel about trivia?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Are you good trivia guys, especially football trivia or no? Not too bad. Not too bad, especially the old stuff. Yeah, well, 47 years in this game, you think you would get quite an advantage because maybe you know literally everybody that is going to have a question to ask about them. But do you do trivia?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Is this something you've ever done before? I sit in a bar every now and then and watch people do it. Yeah. There it is. Get banged up, maybe have some people, ask you some questions about the sports ones. Now, you much younger, obviously, than your opponent. How do you feel in your
Starting point is 00:33:54 trivia abilities? I feel good. I feel really good. My dad and I used to do this when I was a kid and I used to... Oh, Dan, back and lots of. We used to go back and forth. It was mostly Pittsburgh Steelers trivia, but I feel pretty good about this. I don't know how many Pittsburgh Steelers' questions are in this particular. We need
Starting point is 00:34:11 to get them a dry erase board and a marker for each of them. Let me go ahead and do that right now for the boys. Certainly should have had those as you came out. That's 100% on the Merry Quizmas Production staff, myself, including. Would you like the one with the, yep, go ahead and grab it. Yep, there we go.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Perfect, here we go. Oh, good board. All right, you guys got a good board. That is Connor's board. That is Tye's board. I don't know if that'll bring you any luck or not. So $10,000 charity of your choosing. Each question will be worth a point.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And I'm a lot of takeaway points if I don't like the way you guys do what you do. Don't let the other person see your answers. Don't be dipshits. Let's get to this thing. First question here for Merry Quismusmas. By regular season winning percentage. which active NFL franchise owns the worst record of all time. Boys, the clock will start now.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Obviously, don't be looking at each other. Worst team in the NFL by winning percentage in the regular season. Do you guys think you know? Oh, yeah, I got an idea. Oh, okay. Did you guys read the answers before the show? No. No.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I knew before. No. Are both answers? And I see BA has completed his. PA's already allowed to know. AQ has no idea. Shaking in his boots. Okay, show your answers, boys, same answers.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Really? These two actually played, you can show your answer, you can show your answer. These two actually played for this team and coach for this team. Wow. That is actually the wrong answer. It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The other style. Not good.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I thought the Cardinals being the oldest franchises in a league, they might have them by a few years. Okay. And you're Super Bowl. champion for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I guess they've been asked for a long time AQ. Yeah, that's crazy. I went with the Cardinals because I saw the stat the other week where, you know, Carson Palmer's the winningest all-time quarterback and he was only there for a couple years. I just figured a lot of losses. Yeah, well, 400% down there in Tampa Bay. Geez, Louise, get back to it. You really did the Lord's work winning a Super Bowl down there. Congratulations to you, Coach B.A.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And only two years. One Tom Brady and one AQ Shipley. That's all it takes. That's right. Question two of. Quismiss here, boys, go ahead and erase your answers. The bills are one of two teams that reach the Super Bowl four times without winning any, which is the other. This feels like this one's in BA's bag, con man. Yeah, this one also, based on AQ's look after reading that question, don't feel too good about Shipley so far. AQ, Shipley told us him and his dad used to do trivia about Pittsburgh Steelers in sports back in the day. Feels like these first two questions from Hembo have certainly stumped the stump-built man.
Starting point is 00:36:53 D-Buts, what are your thoughts on AQ seemingly not having a clue? A-Q should notice it. This is an easy one. Yeah, I'd say, easy. Let me see what you have here. Okay, let me see what you. Come on, Kush. No answer yet still.
Starting point is 00:37:06 How much time? I would like to phone a friend. Oh. Of the program. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, we have our first lifeline. A.Q. Shipley is utilizing his phoning the friend of the program. we are dialing right now.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Hopefully, a person will answer. You never know. This is the front of the program. What are you expecting from this person that maybe you don't have right now? An answer. I'm hoping this guy has an answer because I don't have any.
Starting point is 00:37:32 You have no clue? Do you have it whittled down to a few? Like when this person pops up will you say, hey, I think it's this, this, this, and this, are you completely clueless right now? No, I got it down to three. Three.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Three. Jeez. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, the front of the program who has been phoned, who might have an answer, but maybe not. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky!
Starting point is 00:37:53 And the Orlovsky family, Merry Quismus, Oolovskys. Merry Christmas. Hey, hey, how are you? We're driving with kids. Okay, Dan. Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God. Take, pull over, keep over, keep over.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I will pull over, sure. Thank you. You got the whole family. You got a starting seven in there. What are we doing? It's supposed to be having a merry time, not a scary time. It's not scary Christmas, Dano. for that, guys.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That kids not wearing a seatbelt. Put your seat belts going back. Put it on side. Okay, you're not driving. All right. All right, you're good, Dan. I'm good. Hey, great work on the nerd cast last night.
Starting point is 00:38:28 We watched post. We appreciate what you did there. AQ. Shipley is phoning you because, boy, he has no idea. It's the second question, Dan Orlovsky. Okay. We'll rally. Okay, AQ, any words of encouragement to Dano before he sees the question here? Yeah, Dan, I need you here.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I need you here. I got nothing. I think I maybe have it, but I'm really leaning on you right now. And B.A. got his answer in quick. I mean, B.A. gave his answer within the first 10 seconds of the question being asked. Here's the question, Dan, O, as we put it back up. The bills are one of two teams that reached the Super Bowl four times without winning any. Which is the other team to do as such?
Starting point is 00:39:11 Would you like to hear AQ who thinks he's whittled it down to his final three, or would you like to go about it alone, Dan? No, I'm a team guy So give me your three I think I have the team But give me your three So I got it down to one This is what I think
Starting point is 00:39:24 I think it's the Vikings But I think it's the Vikings as well Okay is this Final answer, Dano The Minnesota Vikings It's the Minnesota Vikings Why do you think that Because I just remember
Starting point is 00:39:37 They had like really good teams Bud Grant I'm not old enough to like remember it But I know they haven't won one And I think they had a bunch of really good teams in the past Okay so AQ you agree with him that's my guess ladies gentlemen the answer to this question is the
Starting point is 00:39:56 minnesota vikings wow congratulations to both of you for getting the answer right dano thank you for coming through for a cue he has a final word for you here thank you dan i needed that we talked before the show you came through for me i really appreciate that that's what teammates do that's what teammates do Hey, that's a good teammate, Dan. And remember, the only reason why AQ's doing TV is because you tried to break down offensive line stuff a few years back, and he got enraged by it. Now you guys are working together for charity. Yep. It seems like a thank you from both ends.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Hey, sometimes there's disagreements on the football field. You eventually come together. We work through it, and now a sudden we're the smartest people on TV. No big deal. All right. Okay, thanks, Dan. A Christmas miracle. Yeah, it was a Christmas miracle.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Thank you, Dan. Merry Christmas, Orlovskys. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. All right, as far as see. Well, so on. Jesus. Why does he always do that?
Starting point is 00:40:47 I think he said we'd talk before his show. Yeah. Yeah. What's that all about? Hold on. Take a half point away. Yeah. Minus a half point.
Starting point is 00:40:54 No, we were talking about other stuff. We weren't talking about this. We were talking about offensive line play. You were, you were a lot of, I don't understand what's happening. You can't get to take points away. That's bullshit. Do you know who you're calling in front of the program? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:41:09 I have a clue. All right. Take a half point. Oh, man. Half point away from him as well. He's a half point to a half point. No, yeah. We don't like that you guys are cooking.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Did he talk to us? Did he talk to him like, Hey, you should be some speed to the... No, it was, you did have speed. We're talking about different things. You guys are supposed to be surprised by the friends of this program. Now we got pre-game calls.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I don't love that. Yes, you can. Next question, next question. Next question. It's supposed to lose in another half. It's a half point to half point. Watch it. third question here for Quismus. Nobody has rushed for 2,000 yards in a season twice.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Who is the only player with two 1900 yard seasons? You guys will have a little bit of time here to try to figure out the answer. Darius Butler, do you know or have an inkling on who this could be? Do you think it's old school or new school guy? Old school. Okay, Tone, your thoughts? I think old school as well. I have a guess, but not 100% sure. Toxic table? I'm going to say more of the new school dude. Yeah, me too. And both went pretty quickly, so Ake doesn't do shit, so I'm thinking a new school dude as well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Ladies and gentlemen, first time we've had different answers. Here we go. Both men obviously were able to get an answer, which is good news. Proud of you guys. Proud of you guys come and do a conclusion. Making a decision, you know, when the eyes are upon you, that's a big part of big boy stuff and Merry Quism. Why don't you both go ahead and turn around your answers?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Bruce Aryan says OJ the Juice Simpson And Akew Shipley says Derek Henry So we got an old school And you're saying Uh huh And new school What's the right answer
Starting point is 00:42:57 It is Derek Henry How did you know Akew Well I just remember I think it was last year He ran for over it And I remember he had a big season Down in Tennessee
Starting point is 00:43:08 You know sometimes I pay attention To the run game This is what I do Oh yeah It feels like this was kind of I like that school. You won't with the juice, obviously, old school, on the field. Guy on.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Good player. I guess untackable. Yeah, guy, he was a real, people forget great at football. Unbelievable. I mean, I did have the 2000 year season. I do believe, but my next one was going to be Barry. And it was like, O.J. or Barry, I went with O.J. Yeah, you just didn't want to give a new school guy the answer?
Starting point is 00:43:37 No, no way. Okay. There is a mulligan for another shot. It would have to be beforehand. Yeah. Yeah, because we already gave the answer. Molligans. Yikes, we'll figure that one out.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You guys will have to say you would like to take a mulligan if it's wrong before we give the right answer. There we go. Going forward. New rules, new game. Congratulations. You're in the lead. One and a half, two a half.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Let's go to the next question, shall we, here on Merry Quizmas. $10,000 to a charity of their choosing. Which stadium has hosted the most Super Bowls? And if you get this wrong, would you like a mulligan? You can only do that one time. You've got to do that before we give you. be the right answer. So that's like 100% on you guys. Seems like they're in deep thought. Do you have a lean up there, Ty Schmidt? I do have a lean. And what is that coming from just
Starting point is 00:44:23 watching Super Bowls and reminding yourselves of what place is hosting it? Yeah, kind of. You know, we've done this for a couple years now. And, you know, the more things change, the more they tend to stay the same. We do kind of see the same cities hosting this year after year. Okay, I like that. The more things change, the more they stay the same. That's kind of life, isn't it? as we evolve. AQ's is wrong. I'm not saying that. Or is it?
Starting point is 00:44:51 I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying it. I'd like a mulligan if this is wrong. Okay. Probably a good move. Okay, you are wrong. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Don't show your answer. So, ladies and gentlemen, AQ gets a mulligan. His answer was Miami, the hard rock. That is not... That is not the right answer. All you have to do here, AQ, is... You can do City.
Starting point is 00:45:14 City would be the right answer as well. Miami also wrong. Yeah, Miami's not the right answer. Yeah. So it wasn't just a stadium change. Shout out, Joe Robbie Stadium. You will make one put for another chance at an answer. Yeah, see, that's not how this goes.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I like that. No, no, no, no. You got to back that up. Minus one and a half points. No, you're going to back it up. There's a standard putt in this fucking office. It's every single time. It's from the same spot.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Delete this man to score. I do like that move, though. Go move. Yeah, I don't want to delete your points because I think that was good, and I appreciate that you care that you're trying to get the right answer. AQ Shibley will have to bury a seven-foot putt here. I just saw stats. I believe that's like 40% make rate at a BGA tour or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:55 If he's able to bury this putt with the LAB putter, he will get a chance to give another answer. His first answer to which stadium has hosted in most Super Bowls, Miami was incorrect. We do not know what B.A's answer is yet. He has not decided for the Mulligan option. This is AQ's first and only attempt for a molligan. Oh, hit it. And.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Oh, wow. Akew. What a put by AQ Shippley. I'll tell you what, you were dancing with maybe destruction there doing a little two-foot thing. Connor was calling for you to get your entire points wiped out. You've done a lot of work. I don't necessarily love that. You can now give a second answer that would be the stadium or city that has hosted the most Super Bowls in the Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:46:43 history so it's not Miami we know that no that is not what BA's answer is okay it's a good one I have off the last yeah it is a good one what's that buddy putter's gone he says kind of bullshit is putters gone so where is your butter your putters up there isn't it I don't see it I think that's one a Q just used oh no it's back there it's back there it's high I see it I see it yeah bottom of pond okay at whiskey Okay, it's like the NFL officials will get in that in the next hour for her and Merry Quismus right now.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Okay, two different answers. Okay, good. Love it. AQ on his second answer after hitting him all again. Boys, what are your answers? AQ has Los Angeles. B.A. has New Orleans. The right answers is.
Starting point is 00:47:33 No Orleans Supernode. L.A. One point for Coach B.A. You just assumed that throughout the history, L.A., the Stadia Stars would have hosted it? Yeah. I was just thinking warm weather cities and obviously two host teams, right, had have been lost. You would not lose a point for your answer, but I do appreciate the fact that you had a pretty good answer. Coach, how'd you know it was New Orleans?
Starting point is 00:47:58 Been there too many times when the lights went out. Oh, Beyonce. No, Super Bowl, Baltimore, San Francisco, when the lights went out. What was that? Yeah, Beyonce. She shut the whole place down. Yeah, yeah. And then Joe Flacco, they did a slow safety at the end of that game, I think.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It was an awesome game, and San Francisco got a great chance with a little fade in the end zone that got tipped and intercepted. Joe Flacco from, I remember for that Super Bowl, was talking on the sideline. He was mic'd up shout out to NFL films. And he said something along the lines during the long after a slow safety return. He said, if this guy's run down this sideline, I'm going to tackle him. Like, what are they going to do? Because they would win the Super Bowl, if not. He's like, I'm going to, if we were to just tackle him right here, what would be the penalty?
Starting point is 00:48:41 I like that. I do wonder. I do wonder what would have happened there, but I like that Joe Flacko was willing to go for it. The current score, one and a half points. Wow. I like you. To one and a half points. There's only one double done option.
Starting point is 00:48:52 You would have to announce it before the next question. We are going to question four of seven. You would like to double down. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a double down. He's going to double down. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. Coach B.A. has decided to utilize the double down option first here.
Starting point is 00:49:11 AQ, Q, you're boring. You made your Mulligan putts, still got it wrong. A double down is the most electrifying part of Christmas. All you have to do here is get this question right. You don't have to hide your answer because AQ will not be asking. And your one and a half points will become three points. Maybe three and a half just because we had a half point because we like that you were the first to do that doubled down. Why now and why not later on the double done?
Starting point is 00:49:35 You go for the throat early. I like that. Oh, geez. No risky, no whiskey. Oh my gosh. Watch your throat, Cuzz. The double Don question is this, B.A. Which Penn State legend is the all-time leading rusher in Super Bowl history?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Penn State running back is what you would assume the answer is. AQ writing down an answer, even though he's not a part of this question, he went to Penn State. Do you, at the toxic table, have an idea? Oh, yeah. I'd like to steal. Shut up. Is that a rule? Take that a point.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Take that point away. Take that point. You're dancing. You are dancing. He's a thief. It's a quiz man. You can't steal a double done. Jeez, you grinch should be on this side.
Starting point is 00:50:23 B.A. Do you want to put the last name on there, too? Yeah, yeah, I think you should. I think you should. I know, I know. I know, but maybe, you know, more humans. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this guy.
Starting point is 00:50:36 B.A.'s fucking doubt. This guy has a damn statute at the airport. Yes, he does. It is. Franco Harris 354 yards he stepped on your throat with a double done
Starting point is 00:50:51 AQ's dead BA now has three and I don't like that the back room automatically gave you the extra half point but I like that they said we should give you the extra half point because you're the first to use a double down three and a half to one and a half
Starting point is 00:51:04 that was a Nick Muralta decision in his face and he said step on his throat I think we all kind of like that Yeah, exactly. Thief. He went alumni section on an alumni of the school. The question was about.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Hey, BA, way to go D-D there on AQ, bro. How does it feel fresh off the first ever D-D in Quismus? That guy made those four puts that day. Oh, yeah. Good comparison. Hasn't even used a special yet. This guy's got two in the chamber already. Yeah, it's a little bit of worried.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And now you're losing a lot. Okay, let's go to the next question, shall we? Question four of Quismas for the boys. Who is the first quarterback in NFL history to throw 40 touch? touchdowns in a season three times. Now, he's a quarterback guru here, Bruce Ariens. He's guy who had law of quarterbacks, touch his hind end against snap, obviously, lover of the game.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Dee Butch, do you have a couple, obviously, that you're thinking about? Yeah, I got a couple for sure, but this is tough. The first, this is tough. We have the same answer. Okay. We have the same answer from both sides. AQ. Shipley says, Damarino. Bruce Ariens says,
Starting point is 00:52:11 Dan Marino Dan Marino Pittsburgh legend who's becoming one right in front of our eyes oh ladies gentlemen Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:52:20 is the answer 2011 2016 2016 2020 you're both wrong let's go to question five What's that
Starting point is 00:52:29 Can I double down Absolutely Hell yeah Ladies and gentlemen AQ has doubled Dad Now Tye's scream
Starting point is 00:52:39 last time that he's going to double down but he understands that we're up against it for this hard out at the end. So the double down, you're looking to maybe tie this thing up here as we go to question five? I am. I think I'm going to use every lifeline
Starting point is 00:52:49 on this exact one. I love it. I'm going to go here. I'm going to go ask the show. I'm going to chat that. I'm going to do it all. Can you do that? I don't know if that's legal. Okay. Let's go to the double down question here for AQ. Schipley. You're sitting at one and a half points. Who is the only active player named to the Pro Bowl more than 10 times?
Starting point is 00:53:06 AQ's on it. I mean, this is the easiest double-dod question I've ever seen. I'll tell you what? This isn't easier question than the last double-down question, but I believe we tried to play for the guest. Sure. You know, like old school question. Sure. I'd like to ask the show. Potential news still, dude. I'd like to ask the show. Another lifeline out of AQ who's using multiple lifelines on one particular thing, which I appreciate and respect. Who would you like to ask? Connor. I'm asking Connor. You're wasting value.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Okay, okay. Do I say what I think it is? Yeah, yeah. He played last night. Yep. He plays offensive line. Yeah, it's kind of what I thought. Trent Williams, it is.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Okay, is the right answer, Trent Williams. Yes, it is. Great time. That's going on. You had something else written down. He had Trent, and then he went back. He went to Aaron Rogers, now he's back to Trent Williams. He needed it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We're at three and a half to third. Okay, B.A. still in the lead. Let's get to the fifth question I do believe. Both double dons in the can. I like that we deeded across the board. The fifth question, which active college football coach has produced the most first round NFL draft picks? Boys, tick, tick, tick here, actual cake question. Yeah. Which active college football coach has produced the most first round NFL draft picks? This does feel like a cake answer. Feels like it. Oh. Well, well. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, too late. Whoa. Whoa. I mean, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do you still ask the chat. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah, I'll ask the chat. Okay, let's chat that. Now, the chat is 20 seconds behind. We did not think about being up against the clock like this. Let me give you some names. I got the chat pulled up. Yep, who's the chat? What's the chat saying?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Kirby, they're saying Kiffin. They're saying, Kiffin. Oh, saving none in it. Kirby, Kiff. Danbo are the main answers I'm seeing oh I'm gonna go I'm saying a lot of Kirby wow yeah I'm gonna go Kirby okay BA what's your answer Kirby smart a Q in the YouTube chat one with Kirby smart the right answer is Kirby smart that was a layoff that was a layoff tree Bruce and board that was so easy man that's like riding a bike
Starting point is 00:55:36 dabbo made me think hard right there he's got to be close take a half point away no no no no no first answer right four and a half the four here how many minutes do we have left in the show one 20 yeah two okay here we go let's go to the uh one this is the sixth and final question of quizmas ten thousand dollars to a charity of your choosing is on the line jerry rice caught the most 50 yard touchdowns in NFL history with 36 randy moss caught 28 which ranks third who ranks second Oh, most 50-yard touchdowns in the NFL history, 36. Randy Moss caught 28.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Who ranks third? AQ's got no idea. No chance. Who ranks second? Second, sorry, sorry. Who's above Randy Moss? By one, by the way. Another cake one.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Here we go. This is for all the marbles. Here we go. Be fast. This is for all the marbles. Ladies and gentlemen, BA, your answer is? I'm going to ask the panel. I like that. He's using one of his lifelines. Who would you like to ask? Ty.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I think it's T.O. personally. Okay. Final answer? Sure. You're both wrong. B.A. wins. $10,000 to B.A.'s charity of choosing. Merry Christmas. We'll see you next hour. Hi there, surprise.
Starting point is 00:57:09 30 for 30 presents Booja. Can I get a witness from the congregation? You can't stop authenticity. Booya! Stewart was exactly like you saw him on camera, off camera. He dialed it up 10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls looking at that going, I feel seen. He changed the culture. He changed sports.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Stream Booja, presented by Modelo, right now on the ESPN app. The NBA is happening Christmas Day. Five games, one unforgettable lineup. That's what Christmas is all about. Buckets for breakfast, breakaways for dessert. It's the holiday tradition. Christmas on day. With star power from across the globe.
Starting point is 00:57:54 The stars, they are going to be out. The best gift, you don't even have to unwrap it. We want to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! NBA Christmas Day begins at noon Eastern on ABC and ESPN. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the voice you just heard, the cadence you just heard, is our first ever Merry Quizmas champion. $10,000 will be donated to a charity of his choice, 47 years in the football world as a coach, Super Bowl champion, Quizmish champion, Bruce Ariane.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, B.A. Congratulations, B.A. What's the charity? We're going to be sending out to him? Arian's Family Foundation. Okay, and once again, if you can remind folks what Arian's Family Foundation is. support CASA, guard him at Lightham, the court-departed special advocates for his children and the court system
Starting point is 00:58:42 and foster care. Yeah, well, it's an amazing charity. You've obviously done wonderful things alongside your wife and your entire family. Congratulations on winning our first ever quizmas. Very merry Christmas to you. And a very scary quizmas for 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion AQ Ship League.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah, you're currently the only person I know completely defeated a quizmus, but I want to let you know, I thought you did a good job out there. I appreciate that. You kept things active. know there was a lot of bending of the rules that you were attempting to do, which we should expect and appreciate at the same time. Well, I've learned from you guys when I come in here at U-Bow and there's different rules every week, so... Okay, all right. Nine-year NFL Vectary Shane Ballers here.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's been the same rules the whole time. It has been. This guy just sucks at the game. Yeah, yeah. You said it, I mean. Anytime you, congrats champ. Hey. He said it, I mean, you see what the damn trophy is, though.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, trophy. Yeah, really nice. But right now, you know, all up going on. Talks the tables here at Bus Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Come, man, good to see you, brother. What are your thoughts on Quismus? I think it's a hit. I'm actually kind of pissed at it's called Merry Quismus
Starting point is 00:59:41 because I won't play next week. Okay, we'll certainly come up with a new name. We can certainly figure that out. The double Don was a little early time. It was, you know, but hey, like B.A. said, when you have the opportunity to step on someone's throat and really end it, you do that, and that's exactly what B.A. did with the double Don. AQ had no chance to win.
Starting point is 00:59:57 He ends up winning by half a point, and AQ was dancing with losing half a point all the time. All his little attitude in sass. Remember he took the mulligan put first. another answer up to about two inches. It's like, hey, don't disrespect Quismus. What he did. Okay, you disrespect Quismus. The Quismus gods come back to get you, and they did.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Congrats to Coach B.A. once again. That baby, A. Congrats also to the man we got a chance to catch up with this morning. His team has won a college football playoff game at home. What's next? We chat with a guy out there in Eugene, Oregon, earlier today. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now as a man who has got a chance to showcase a beautiful part of their country to me and many others because,
Starting point is 01:00:34 getting a chance to travel out to where he coaches is something that nobody would ever really sign up for, but then once you do it, you think to yourself, man, I can't wait to get back here. Here happens to be one of the greatest sports capitals on the entire planet Earth. It is not only the track home where all of our fast people go and the home of Nike, obviously, which has transcended the entire globe for what it's able to do to our feet, but it also has a football team that is going to be dominant for seemingly ever. They win their first round of the playoff game, they end up with their third stringers in the game, and afterwards, the coach is pissed off by the final score.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That is what this type of guy is, intense, loyal, loving, and a damn good football coach. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Oregon Ducks, who got the Texas Tech Red Raiders in the next round. Coach Dan Lanham. Yay, Coach. How are you doing, man? Merry Christmas, Moist. How are we doing? Hey, Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We've got a fire back here. I don't know if you see it. I like the background. It looks good. Good, man. Put me in the mood. Do you know it's Christmas? Like, because you're kind of in the middle of it.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I've heard it's coming, yeah. Yeah. I've heard it's coming. No, I'm excited about it. I mean, we're not really absolutely got to celebrate Christmas. We're kind of locked in over here. Yeah, I think football calendar has kind of changed the way I view holidays. You know, Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah, certainly a good time when I was a kid growing up with the family going to eat with the extended family. Then again, football. It's like Thanksgiving, actually, big football day. Okay. Christmas, well, we're hoping it's meaningful football. New Year's, well, that's when we would like to be playing. So football kind of changes what life is like around this holiday season. But let's talk about the holiday season that is right now for your team,
Starting point is 01:02:13 college football playoffs. First home playoff game in Otton in its history. I heard the speech that you gave to the boys after your practice game a week beforehand where you said, hey, first ever playoff game in Ottson, and you guys get to be a part of it. And then whenever you take that field, do you realize the gravity of the moment? Are you trying to minimize that shit on game day for the team? Or how did you kind of address the boys on the magnitude of the situation
Starting point is 01:02:37 and how many great players have been through Oregon? But these are the ones that get a college football playoff game at Outson for the first time ever. Yeah, it's weird in a way because I think we all recognize how different the situation is and how unique the opportunity is do we have. But as a coach, part of you is fighting to make them say, hey, we've done this before. we're replicating something we've already done. We're experiencing something we've already experienced. So I think you want to
Starting point is 01:03:03 recognize in the moment how special it is, but then you want to remind them, the reason you got here is because you were consistent and you did what you're supposed to do over and over and over again, and that's how we're going to replicate it again and have an opportunity to keep moving. Is that what you think is your team superpower, the ability to be consistent, or what do you love
Starting point is 01:03:19 about this year's Oregon Ducks team the most? I think our superpower is our love for our teammates. You know, and I think our superpower as the amount of guys that make it impact on this team. You know, I think strength and numbers is really a bit of super power for us. We've been down players, and then we've had players available. We've had, you know, guys that you didn't expect to make an impact, making huge impacts. So I think really our superpowers, the strength and numbers and the buy-in from our players.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I think it's been fun to watch your team all season. We've been lucky to be able to do that, obviously. The Oregon Ducks are always going to be in prominent college football convo. Last year, you guys become the Big Ten champs, your first year in the Big Ten champs, your first year in the big 10. Then you have what a month and a half off and then you get to the Rose Bowl and you have a buzzsaw of an Ohio State team that obviously comes off the Michigan game, kicks the shit out of Tennessee at home, then they come into Rose Bowl. It's like they felt like they were hotter, if that makes sense. This year you play in the first round as opposed to having the buy. How different is it? And what do you like or hate about it all? Well, I certainly like
Starting point is 01:04:21 not having the break. You know, personally, you know, I think the playoffs should be played like every other sport does the playoffs, right? Like high school football does the playoffs, like the NFL does the playoffs, like FCS football does the playoffs. You'll play your game a week after the regular season, play the next game the week after. I think you should have home games all the way up until the national championship game for the higher seeded team. But, you know, it is what it is. So I'm glad we got the opportunity to play. I think it's helped maintain that routine a little bit more for our players, which is great. But I'd certainly love to see some changes in the future where we can get a little bit more consistent approach.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I don't want to go back to last year, okay? Let's go back to last year. All right, here we go. That Rose Bowl game afterwards, obviously we were there. I mean, that was from beginning to end. It felt like they were going. You never got going. Is there anything that you looked at your team or preparation for the
Starting point is 01:05:14 playoffs this year in the off season that maybe you thought if we would have done this differently or maybe if we do this? Or do you think it was just the amount of break that you had versus a hot football team? Like, have you coached differently this year for your team to be better in the long haul? Like, did anything change from last year's Rose Bowl game and playoff game in the off season on how you address the team this year for the most important games of the season? Yeah, I think, you know, certainly a couple things changed. Ultimately, we stopped worrying about the next opponent and we focused a little bit more on ourselves early on. We did the mock game this year to kind of maintain that routine for our players.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That was something we didn't do last year. And again, it's a little bit different because we're playing a little bit earlier. But there's some growth moments within that game. And I think there's also the respect and the ability to honor the fact that Ohio State was playing some really good football right there. Let's focus on how we can play a really good football. I love that. I think you're doing that. Now, you weren't exactly thrilled.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It sounded like, you know, with the way everything kind of ended that game. Is that good news for you coaching the team leading into this next round that it wasn't just an absolute slaughtering? And it did end up getting a little bit closer than, I think a lot of people thought it was going to be. Like, how do you view how that game started and then how that game ended and then how you carry that into the next one? Well, I think it eliminates some complacency and there's some opportunity for growth for us for sure. If you ask me, how do I want to play? I want to play great every time we touch the field.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So we did that at moments. We didn't do that the entire game. So there's going to be practice here this morning and we'll go attack it. Did you put the, did you have guys not playing for a little bit and then put them back on the field? Did I see that? Yeah, we switched some guys there at the end, for sure. You know, I think there's a standard. There's a level of play, you know, but we used a couple different groups
Starting point is 01:07:07 and we went through some guys back in there to go get a stop and they didn't. So I think that's an opportunity for us to grow. That's awesome. Good for you, by the way. Get a huge win, win by multiple scores, and also immediately afterwards. I don't like what I just saw at all. And the whole team feels that. You know, the whole team knows that going into next week.
Starting point is 01:07:24 next game. Now, you have a very good team that we have gotten a chance to see and follow this year coming up next. DeBud has a question for you. Yeah, I know the players love that. Probably has some tape already untaped. Show the pad probably unclipped. But what's the challenge in this next round? The biggest challenge facing this Texas Tech offense. Yeah, I think it's the whole team. It's a complete team. But offensively, they're really big and wide out outside. They've got a great run game. You know, both the run games do an unbelievable job or running backs do an unbelievable job. You know, their quarterback is a guy that can delivered all over the field as well and it sounds like he's really healthy which is you know
Starting point is 01:07:58 that's great for them and their team we can see him at full strength um their tight ends catch the ball so i think they got weapons across the field and the biggest piece is you know how they create explosive plays hey i've been all the way in you jean and it's a beautiful place you guys are playing i think the first go ahead con man yeah coach probably easier to fly to japan than it is to the orange bull from oregon uh what do you guys do on a flight that long how do you prepare for that And then is there something you do immediately getting off the flight just because you've been on a plane for eight, nine hours? How does that kind of work with the team? And how do you work that into preparation for the Orange Bowl?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Yeah, it's not quite that long a flight, but it's a long flight. Pack a neck pillow, right? And then you make sure that whenever you hit the ground, we're going to get our bodies loose and do a primer, do some moving. But ultimately, we've kind of prepared ourselves for it. We've flown the Rutgers this year. We've flown to Penn State. We've flown across the country more than any other team. you know, at our level.
Starting point is 01:08:56 So we're prepared for those moments. Is that a weapon for you? I think it probably is. Sounds like it, kind of like a numb chuck or something, right? It sounds like with something, you know. You could do the Russell Wilson. Well, yeah, you could do Russell Wilson to high needs.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And we don't know if you're already doing that in the plane or not. But like, everybody was complaining about the long flights. And it's like Oregon is probably going to be a long flight from everywhere. Now, once again, I cannot stress this enough. Once you land there, you're in a postcard. It is gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I mean, it is absolutely beautiful out there. But everything is a flight. So I guess it's just kind of expected whenever you sign up to be an Oregon duck. Like, hey, you might have to travel a little bit to the game. So it's not even a potential outside conversation. Is that an accurate, you think, read on it? Yeah, I mean, who cares?
Starting point is 01:09:43 They got a football field there, right? You are the greatest. You are the greatest. Speaking of football, go ahead, Ty. Yeah, coach, I think a lot of people who don't watch you guys are just casual, football fans. They associate Oregon with like the Chip Kelly era where
Starting point is 01:09:57 you know you spread everybody out and it's been very clear that getting the offensive line where it needs to be and being able to match teams physically in the Big Ten has been a big strength of you guys. How do you feel you're going to match up against Texas Tech's defense, specifically that defensive line which people
Starting point is 01:10:13 have talked about ad nauseum all year about how good they are, how physical they are. Do you guys feel like you're pretty prepared to match that test? Well, I think we got time to prepare. There's certainly a really good front. You watch them. They don't give a explosive plays. They're really good against the run. They do an unbelievable job rush in the past. They got great age players. They got some guys that eat up a lot of room
Starting point is 01:10:35 inside and great linebacker play. So it's a complete team. It's a complete group. But we do think playing the league that we play in is prepared us for this. We have an O line that's been up for the Joe Moore Award as finalist the last three years. We've got some really good play at running back. We've got, again, strengthen numbers with what we've been able to get back at our wide receiver position, our tied-in position. I think we got a special quarterback under center for us. So I love our team. I really do, but I think we're going to go play a really good one here in Texas Tech.
Starting point is 01:11:04 You mentioned somebody special under center there. AQ has the last question for you, coach. Yeah, you just talked about how special he is. You get to see him every single day. We only get to see him from afar every week. What does he do that makes him so special? Well, it's not the same player today. He was yesterday, right?
Starting point is 01:11:21 This guy gets better every single day. And Dante has unbelievable poise and composure. He can make every single throw, right? He does some stuff that impresses me consistently. You know, he's able to go from one to two to three to four to five and a progression, which is really special. And he makes his teammates play better. You know, and I think whenever your quarterback brings confidence to the rest of the team,
Starting point is 01:11:42 that's a special thing. He might be number one overall pick next year, they're saying, right? Oh, yeah. You know what they're saying? Oh, yeah. I'm not saying it about, Dante. They're saying maybe number one overall pick. Maybe Fernando Mendoza.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Maybe Dante Moore goes back to college, though. Why not? Why not? Get some more reps. Or maybe wins a national championship sales off in the sunset and says, hey, sco, docks and does his thing. There's so much opportunity, so much available, and that's because your team has earned it. Congrats, Coach. We can't wait to see what you do down there in Miami against Texas Tech.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Appreciate it, Pat. You guys have a great morning. Hey, you ever been on that motorcycle? No. Can you ride? That's all you do it, man. You look good doing it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:23 During COVID, I really wanted to go buy one. You know, when you're like, what am I going to do this morning? I'm going to get up on them. I'm going to, you know, turn on the trigger. I'm going to zoom for like five hours. But what am I going to do after that? And I really wanted to get like an Indian motorcycle, like the one off of Benjamin Button.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah, that big fat-ass seat down there, especially in Oregon. I assume the riding is incredible. Have you ever rode before? No, no, no. I haven't. So you have no idea how to do it. do it either. Are you just going to do it?
Starting point is 01:12:54 I mean, I've rid of a bike. Isn't it the same? Yeah, it's the exact same. Hey, they got a football field there? Yeah. That's all I really care about. You're the man. Merry Christmas to you and your entire family of your team. We appreciate you. Good luck, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Dan Lanney.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yay. Baby Dan O. Here we have, baby Dan. Hey, I am a big fan of his, honestly. Yeah. He, uh, him having that, uh, end of the game against Jay and you where they start scoring and start running, like the scoreboard looks vastly different than how that game could have went. Dan kind of resting and then him saying the standards is the standard.
Starting point is 01:13:32 That's great for a coach going through the playoffs, right, that he has so much of pool from. I don't think anything could be better. You win by a good number and you get to kick their ass all week and just rip them all week. You stunk, you know, just to get the guys fired up. Yeah, a little perspective changer. If you won by 51 or nothing, they might be a little complacent this week. now there's no complacency especially on defense
Starting point is 01:13:55 so is coaching literally just trying to get the most out of everybody every single week through like if you had to summarize what it was because you talk about like these guys and then you hear Coach Saban talk about can't let the guys
Starting point is 01:14:05 like it's all about just managing humans that's all you're trying to do right it really is and it's not just human it's individuals and a collective you know to make sure we're all on the same page going after the same thing however were you more of
Starting point is 01:14:18 do as I say say as I do or did you feel like you were a part of the locker room? Like it feels like Vrable feels like he's part of a locker room, but his vote is worth 10. Everybody else's vote is worth one, but he's one of the boys. I feel like that's his, what was your kind of? I would let you three answer that question. Yeah, I think you were in there, yeah. You're talking shit. Do you think that is the best way to go about doing it? That's, it's your personality. It has to be authentic. You know, when I was in Cleveland, I was in charge of a two-minute drill on Thursdays, and I had money on the wall with the
Starting point is 01:14:50 defensive backs. All right. These are my, this is some B.A.'s money. They didn't know that I controlled the script. So one day, hey, we're playing for 50. 50. I'm in. I said, we need a field goal. We're on the 50 yard line. 50 seconds.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Two timeouts. We kicked the field goal. We beat my money on the wall. Yeah, three timeouts. You were notorious for talking shit to the defense. I mean, I never really got a chance to see that in the football coaching world. Like Rich Rodriguez, his crew was like very like, hey, this is
Starting point is 01:15:20 how this is going to be. We're going to keep it moving. Coach Jim Caldwell and that coaching staff was kind of an older coaching staff. Coach Pagano gets there. He brings in his crew. That wasn't really anybody's style in there. Then you get in there. In the first OTAs, I hear you going, we're going to cook you all day to a guy, Antoine Betha, I think, on the field. I'm like, okay, I like what we're doing. Obviously, I'd heard stories about you in Pittsburgh, but it was a special thing. It was like a very cool relationship that you build with the boys, both on the offense and defensive side, I think. It's a good sense of leadership, I think. Oh, yeah, you love that, especially with luck as the quarterback, because
Starting point is 01:15:53 luck wasn't much of a shit talker. Luck was more of like you'll make a play against luck in between series or if the tools are up, he'll be having a conversation. Hey, what did you see there? Like, why did you break on that? And then B.A. would be able to be tired. Hey, coming after your ass right now. So, like, I don't know how that different with, you know, coaching Tom or coaching Peyton or coaching Ben, but I know the personality that luck was, it definitely helped. Which is great for Vrable and Drake may. Yeah. I mean, it feels like Brayble and Drake are like, the perfect combo he Drake may dog quiet though yeah we're focusing on next week yeah uh this whole thing inside Drake is a killer okay Drake is an absolute same with look yeah Andrew luck same exact way
Starting point is 01:16:35 Drake killer though certified we watch it we see it the amount of work he had to put in to perfect his footwork that everybody was complaining about that type of drive motivation and all that and then the way he runs the way he's able to get out of things so he his willingness to do things like Drake is a killer. Vrabel, a little bit more of the alpha, I believe. So it's like a perfect yin and yen. And then you think about McDaniels, he's going to be there for 100 years. It's like
Starting point is 01:16:59 we are staring at potentially the next 20 years of excellence up there. Oh yeah, I get used to it. By all accounts, this is not going anywhere, and it's just incredible to be in this reality. But Drake May, for the first time, he was miced up. And maybe it was the first time they actually released it, but
Starting point is 01:17:15 he was miced up and he came off the field after the Ramandre Stevenson touchdown to go up after the 89-yard drive to take the lead again after being down by 11 in the fourth quarter. And it was the first time ever you really heard Drake May kind of dog mentality to quote Tyriani. That was the first time that it really came out and you heard it on the sideline. I was even surprised they put it out just because when you watched it, it was weird in comparison to, you know, the answers that you mentioned that he gives out during the press conferences. But very much so a junkyard dog, Drake May, and then having for able to be.
Starting point is 01:17:49 the kind of loud alpha like you're saying is just the best. The Steph Curry turn around there to Hunter Henry was obviously cool. I mean, it's so smooth and casual and then right down his sideline, which means he's so comfortable and confident. It has to be with the way he's playing. But he's in a system now that it feels like he's really taking advantage of everything he's great
Starting point is 01:18:05 at. Yeah, Coach, I want to ask you, though, because obviously a comment says it all the time. Josh ain't going anywhere. The conversation is kind of the same with Vince Joseph in Denver because you're coaching those great players and you have these young quarterbacks. Why not stay in that situation? But how hard What is it going to be for Josh McDaniel
Starting point is 01:18:21 to turn down another head coaching opportunity? Or Vance Joseph, if it presented itself. Yeah, I would think Vance would get a shot again. Josh has had two. Yep. And I think he said, enough's enough. I'm really happy where I got a great guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I'm just going to ride this out. And he's such a great offensive coordinator. And he hasn't done it as a head coach for whatever reason. And I would say, Josh, get a raise and do your thing, baby. Just keep getting paid. How often do people do that? How often do people actually do that? Because there's only 32 jobs.
Starting point is 01:18:51 They talk about the pay increase, running your own thing. You know, so much of it's your ego. If you just put your ego aside and say, what's best for me and my family? And I think Josh has realized now this is the best thing for him and his family. Vance is probably chopping at the bit to say, hey, last time was a mistake. I got this. And I think he'll get a good shot. And I mean, by all counts, he absolutely should.
Starting point is 01:19:17 The hype of his defense has lived up to everything that it was supposed to be coming into the year, and it has been for some time. So obviously there's going to be plenty of coaching opportunities available. Every single NFL coaching cycle there is. That's why when Ben Johnson was turning down opportunities for a couple of years, everybody was like, your window can close quick. Your window can close quick. You've got to be able to take that head coaching paycheck versus whatever an assistant coaching paycheck is.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And obviously that thing's fully guaranteed, brother. And you get a chance to kind of build the building in your own way. So I think it's a very difficult decision from my understanding for coaches to make that decision. I think there is a great temptation to become the head person, not just because you think you can run it in a way that you can win into your impersonal ego, but also the paycheck is doubled normally, double paycheck. Normally it's like, hey, everything you like is able to go, but you have, what, a thousand more obligations and jobs and so many more things you have to balance, and your life and work thing becomes not existent. And it's like once you start having to make all those decisions, life maybe isn't good. That old second half of the negative drawbacks of having that particular job rarely gets talked about whenever guys are getting new jobs. Like when Ben Johnson was turning down jobs, the conversation was this guy's an idiot.
Starting point is 01:20:30 This guy is not going to be the bell of the ball every single year. He needs to take it. Then he takes the Chicago Bears job, and immediately they're having success. They're obviously pumped up about that. But I think it's much harder for these coordinators to say, I don't want it than we're just kind of giving credit to. And if Josh McDaniels actually does that, good on the best. Patriots and good on Josh McDaniels looking into mirror and being like, my life's good right now. This guy's unbelievably, six foot five. He can run faster everybody. My family likes the area.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Look at his house. This is a really good house. But then there's a thought, well, if my salary doubles, I can get the house if Rape's living in or I can go ahead and win a Super Bowl as my own head coach. Like there's, it's such a battle. It's a very tough decision, I think, for anybody to make, especially if you're offered a head job. There's not a lot of them. Well, and maybe McDaniel is different because he's, you know, he's, or McDaniels, excuse me, because he's done it, you know, two times. But, like, that's what's tough is, you know, you're talking about the ego portion and, hey, like, I need to set aside and do what's best for me and my family, et cetera, et cetera. Like, how much money you're getting paid feeds directly into your ego. It's like, oh, wow, you're telling me I'm worth $12 million a year, not three and a half.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Like, that's why it's, you know, because they're all going to be tied always. If McDaniel stays up there, they're going to be a problem. I'm joining us out live from Anatic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawkser, sorry for the delayed introduction. We obviously would like to celebrate you as a human on this Quismus. Okay, Merry Quismus to you. I don't know if you got a chance to watch. Yes, congrats to B.A. for, I guess what, the first ever Merry Quizmas champion. He is a Christmas champion. He's undefeated. He's the only reigning champion that we've ever had. So obviously, he's going to carry that title well with a $10,000 donation.
Starting point is 01:22:08 We're excited to do it. Maybe next week with a different name. That was a good time. I felt like I learned a lot of things. But speaking of BA, and speaking of McDaniels, it's time to give out BA's weekly game ball. Okay. BAA all week, we've been celebrating, you know, outstanding performances with game balls.
Starting point is 01:22:24 This is a standard operating procedure in NFL buildings. Coach come in on Monday with a couple actual game balls. They'll be painted up, too, so you can put them up in the office or in the house. Your stats, the game, the win, everything like that. It's a big celebration by everybody. Whoa. What the hell was that?
Starting point is 01:22:40 AQ's Mike. Now we are, now we are, yeah, let's not be doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a celebration from the AFC and a celebration from the NFC. Coach Bea. Yay! Who's the game balls this week? Well, being Christmas, we're going with duos.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Oh, I like that. Because it's really hard to separate the quarterback from the receiver. Got it. And they both have great games in the AFC, Drake May, and Stefan Digg. Hey, congratulations. And Stefan did an unbelievable job of leadership on that sideline. When they were down, he was pumping everybody, kept your chin up, all the stuff he was saying,
Starting point is 01:23:18 making miraculous catches, and Drake Mae is just unbelievable. Jay Bob, what do you think it is about this Vrable-led Patriots culture? Is it Drake May, and he knows he can be special? Do you think he's at the stage of life for it? He's like, you know what, I want to win? Like, what do you think Stefan Diggs is thinking up there in New England? I mean, yeah, definitely want to win. And he's been in some different situations.
Starting point is 01:23:35 He's always been productive, but for whatever reason, and he hasn't been able to get to that point. He's played with, you know, pretty good quarterbacks, I would say, for the majority of his career, but been in this situation with Vrable. He even talked about, like, you know, I can't believe Vrable had me to buy him because that's the toughest part, too. When you're a veteran player and you're getting to a new system or with a new coach, it's tough to get that guy to buy in.
Starting point is 01:23:55 But when it starts from the top, as far as the leadership in the locker room and those guys are buying it, it trickles down. It always starts with your quarterback as well. Got a young quarterback Drake May, who even before the draft, we all knew and felt like he was going to be a great locker room guy. and it's all clicking. Drake May, the guy, Bruce Arons, because he's tall, athletic, he seemingly understands what defenses are doing,
Starting point is 01:24:17 and he can make every single throw, and he's seemingly in between the ears, has the moxie to be a starting quarterback, and also, yeah, he's younger brother, so he's been beat up his whole life, so he's naturally going to be humble. So is this the one? Is Drake May the one, B.A., is there a chance he becomes the one?
Starting point is 01:24:35 Oh, I don't think there's any doubt. Just to stay healthy. keep building that offensive line around him and keep bringing in those weapons. I mean, this kid is amazing. How's he end up in New England? Because the last one ended up up there. How's that, how's this happen? I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Well, the last one, I mean, I think is why Bill Belcher's greatness is kind of undeniable. But this one feels more so like, oh, the cool shiny toys, Caleb Williams and Jane Daniels. I've been winner in the generational talents. And then Drake May is just like, I'll shoot. I just like playing football and, you know, doing. doing the thing and playing with my boys. But Diggs especially, I was talking to AECU about this. If this does go as planned, looking back on this Patriots Vrabel-May era,
Starting point is 01:25:19 I think everyone will say Stefan Diggs was one of the most important signings in reestablishing that New England Patriots winning culture. Which he was for Josh Allen as well. If you think about the development of Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs being added to the Buffalo Beals from the Minnesota Vikings was a massive upgrade, I think like 25% better to... completion percentage and everything like that for Josh Allen. And now Drake May, only in his second year,
Starting point is 01:25:42 it took Josh a couple years to find out who he is. It feels like Drake knows exactly who he is. Feels like the Patriots knew who he is. And it sounds like McDaniels never leaving. He's just going to be an offense coordinator and only worry about that forever. So congratulations doing it. I mean, it's just, you guys might as well.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Yeah, but the pacer or the Celtics stink, don't they? Yeah, well, I'm, look, I'm not going to go out on a limb and celebrate beating the Pacers after being down 20. We were up, though. I thought we wanted to do. Yeah, you guys were up 20. and then the entire Celtics bench came in and won, but the Pacers are
Starting point is 01:26:10 6 and 23, so we don't have to get into that. The Patriots thing, though, you guys should think about just jumping ship. What? The Colts, like, it doesn't look good, okay? Packers, I guess you should say, D-Bitt's already a fan of the Pats. AQ, I think, is slowly but surely...
Starting point is 01:26:25 I kind of... What? Come through. Why? How come? I love Josh McDaniels. I love his play sequencing throughout the game. I love Will Campbell. I love Jared Wilson. They rebuilt their line. And the crazy thing is when you look at this team and the talent that they have on that roster, it's about one-tenth of what he's going to have in about two or three years.
Starting point is 01:26:43 So are you going to be a Patriots fan now? Are you a Patriots fan? No, but I just like what they're doing. I'm a big fan of watching offenses, and I love everything that Josh, he's bringing back the old school fullback. He's running the same offense. He ran with Tom Brady in 2001, except he's got better athletes at this point. How do you feel about Vrable? Why do you get fired from, because he can sell it to Drake,
Starting point is 01:27:04 like, hey, everybody thought we were asked. Vrable got fired. Yeah. Yeah. He got actually, that's crazy the thing about it. He got fired from the Tennessee Titans, basically. Out of nowhere, we're all just like, Mike Vrable. He had a couple stinky years.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Certainly, but then he had some years where he had 100 and some people on IR or whatever. Or so. Or so. Yeah, it was very clear that there was some differing of opinion between him and ownership and front office. And I think ownership was potentially on his side a little bit, and then ownership got on front office side. And that's potentially because of, you know, day-to-day politics. can potentially happen behind the scene. So Vrabel could have had a lot of things
Starting point is 01:27:39 that potentially motivated him to have a chip on his shoulder to be a head coach. But him in New England seemingly perfect for each other. Why is that coach? That's a great marriage. I mean, he knows that Patriot system, everything. But Mike Vrabble, I've known for a long time, and totally respect him as a player and a coach.
Starting point is 01:27:55 And, you know, we talked a lot in the last couple of years. I was shocked. He didn't go straight back to being a head coach. He sat with Browns and watched that dysfunction, you know, for a year. and like, I learned how not to do it, you know. But that whole thing in Tennessee, they were rolling, they were rolling, and then all the politics got involved from the front office.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It feels like that. And they had personnel and coaching, they have to be intertwined to win. If personnel and coaching are different, you got players, we don't have any players, that shit don't fly. Yeah. You're not going to win. And they got it all going on in New England right now. Like, that's what's so cool, too, is that there isn't technically a GM.
Starting point is 01:28:35 really in New England right now. He is the supreme leader of the entire thing. And when you mentioned the politic and they had multiple different GMs, there were guys moving up in the front office, moving down, that maybe had no business getting promotions or a job in the first place. Not that I know anything about it, but looking back on it from what people have said about the situation,
Starting point is 01:28:54 that seems to be the correct assessment. But Vrable really is like, hey, these are the guys we're going with and this is what the team I want to be. And Elliot Wolf also from the old regime, Belichick and Mayo has survived, has picked dudes who have played very, very well under the Vrabel era, and it just feels as though Vrable is the complete Supreme Command. And on that note, AJ, Vrable-style players, somebody over here, I forget who it was, sorry, there's a lot of microphones right now.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Somebody said this is one-tenth of the amount of talent they're going to have in the future. That's because they know exactly who they are right now. Now they have all the, they have the most money, too. What do you think is the type of guy that Vrable's looking for, AJ? Oh, I mean, I'm sure he, that's the thing about Braves. He's like he's an absolute old school guy. I've known him for a long time. But even talking to him throughout his whole coaching journey,
Starting point is 01:29:39 he's like the old school meathead, but he's crazy, smart. And you talked to anyone that played with him. They said, like, Braves was a coach on the field. If we ever to question, we went to Braves, and he always had the answer for us. But I think he also is smart enough to evolve. And like, when I talk about like, hey, how do you even, can you even coach these kids?
Starting point is 01:29:54 Like, if I ever run into him, like, can you coach these kids hard like you want to? He's like, yeah, man. He's like, we can, these kids are their kids. It's just what they've grown up in, what's around them. It's all that. He said it's different, but it's not like, it's not worse. We just have to find a way to get through to them. And obviously Braves is, his message is getting across.
Starting point is 01:30:10 He's in a great spot because his kids all the same age, right? So he literally knows all the references shit. He knows all the shit because he's been through. And he's a human, too. And Braves knows that there's a world outside of football going on. A lot of coaches don't know that, like, there is life outside of football. Yes. And Brabs is one of the most self-aware people we've seen.
Starting point is 01:30:26 And also intimidating guys. I mean, one of those people. And that's why McDaniels, I don't think we'll leave to what age. He just said, like, McDaniel's biggest thing that he talked about when he was at the podium one day was just like, hey, Vrable understands that it's not just football. Like when we come in and it's, you know, just the coaches talking, like we talk about our families and what's going on, like off the fields. We're not just like, hey, leave all your shit at the front door. When you're in here, it's strictly football. Like, it's not like that in the building.
Starting point is 01:30:51 And that's why I think the culture is the way it is, you know, let alone the, hey, don't be uncomfortable to the players when he's walking in the cafeteria. But with the coaches with each other, it's not just all. all ball. It is also like, hey, life is a part of this. So what are you saying? You're saying we can jump ship and become Patriots fans at this moment. Because it looks like we got about 20, 30 years again for the New England. Never. I'm saying if, B.A. says never. Well, yeah, B.A. is going going to ride the Buccaneers until they stink. Yeah, but he was also with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Indianapolis Colts. Both those fan bases, New England. Yeah, right. Empire. Legate. Chiefs, St. I got fired a bunch of time.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Yeah, that's what happened. But it does feel like you have a very likable team. Now on that note, don't you worry about the Colts, okay? I think three are going to do their thing. I'm excited to see what it is. Boy, people calling for a lot of things after last night. And, you know, all Phil Rivers is saying, hey, we still got chipping a chair, brother. Okay, I've seen worse and I've seen people get in. So I'm going to continue to play. I'm going to continue to do my thing. They're calling for a lot. And I would like people to know that I understand that it has not been the most successful football here for the
Starting point is 01:31:56 Annapolis Colts. This year, I think there was some really unfortunate injuries. Yeah. I mean, Daniel Jones. Would he have been able to survive the whole season? I don't know. I think maybe. I think he would have been. And would he have been able to continue to do what he was doing and only get better in Shane Zykin's offense?
Starting point is 01:32:10 I think so. Whenever he comes in with a broken fibula, okay, out of nowhere. We got from first team in the NFL to me, okay, seven weeks, I don't know how I mean. Six weeks, seven weeks. I had the number one headline coming out of the NFL weekend Slate is the Colts are winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:32:25 The last undefeited team. Colts will win in the Super Bowl. Culture winning the Super Bowl. I legitimately thought all three phases, this team can do it. Once I saw that video from James Boyd, I think he's his name, the Romeoville kid of Daniel Jones after the bye week, turn around to hand a ball off, and he couldn't move. I immediately said it's over. I literally in real time. Who was acting?
Starting point is 01:32:49 Was it Shefty that said like, oh, I don't think it's going to be a problem. Like, he's going to be fine. He'll be able to handle it. I was like, it's a broken leg, Chefty. I don't, what do you mean? We see it. He can't move. A part of the offense is him being able to move.
Starting point is 01:33:00 That is, that's why him and AR were kind of like, hey, we can kind of try a similar offense. AR, obviously, yeah, as soon as we saw this. Oh, my gosh. As soon as we saw this, I knew it was over. I got on the microphone. I had just said, the Colchial goes, his frog right there giving him the snap? He knows, too, as soon as he saw it. He goes, no, no, we're coming off a by week.
Starting point is 01:33:18 This is not how this is supposed to go. As soon as I see this, I go on a microphone, all of a sudden, people start attacking me from being negative about the Colts. All you little flip-flopper, it's like, no, man, I was just watching these games. The reason why we were good is because Danny Dimes can move. Danny Diams will get us into the right position. That was the difference between him and AR. And he was able to do all the shit that AR was able to do.
Starting point is 01:33:35 And he was accurate passer. Like we had a real shot. If he's not going to do it, we're in trouble. We are in trouble. So I got a little bit negative too. But then I sold myself on some dreams. Phil Rivers. This guy can do it.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Turns out he can. Yeah. Turns out he actually can. But on defense aside, we're never going to be healthy enough to be able to survive. And then we gave away a lot of pieces for a guy that's not able to play right now, so I was going to. we gave way we gave way some money to another corner coming in from san francisco supposed to be a guy
Starting point is 01:34:04 he just knocked out in pregame he's never i don't know what happened it's like this year for the colts was a womb and then seemingly if you took it from the first shot of the broken fibula that which i kind of did yeah i mean it was a rock quick ride to the top i was so excited we're going to win a super bowl and then boom it went like this and this is another year of not having success this another year of not winning to AFC South. This is another year of not being in playoffs. This is another year of not being able to. So like, Colts fans are getting a little restless, I think, and it's been Chris
Starting point is 01:34:36 Ballard through this entirety. Shane Steichen's been here a long time. And I think every year we've been able to bring up, like, very valid excuses for them. But I think we're at the point where the Colts fans are like, we're done with the valid excuses. So we need to sage this place, then, is what you're saying. I don't like it, right? Because I think
Starting point is 01:34:54 very valid excuses. Like, I think we got a quarterback that was our guy. No doubt. Well, it's going to be our guy. He gets hurt. A lot of teams are going to struggle after losing your guy. We trade two-ones for a corner. Yeah, he can't really, he's not going to be able to play
Starting point is 01:35:06 like most of the games that are very important actually going forward because he's going to get injured on first play of a game, basically. So the other guy gets hurt. It's like there's a lot of excuses to go around for the Indianapolis Colts. But I think the one we should talk about the most is at Niners team might do that to a lot of people. Second BA game ball on the NFC side is going to who, coach? Brock Purdy and Kristen McCaffrey.
Starting point is 01:35:28 set last night live and in person and it's like whew, these guys are on fire right now. Is it because of them or is it because of the Colts being asked? Because a lot of people were saying. It was them. I mean, Brock's back foot hit the ball was out. Ball was out. It was accurate and they're off and running. Christian is
Starting point is 01:35:44 amazing. Like you said, I don't know how he never gets tired. And he's going to get his thousand, thousand. That puts him in rare, rare air. Yeah, the only person ever to have multiple thousand thousand, thousand yards seasons. Thousand through the ground are on the ground. A thousand through the sky. He's, uh, I forget how many yards away? A 163. Uh, through the sky, uh, to get that done.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Passed 1,000 on the ground last night. He's outrageous. He never gets tired, AJ. We're watching him live, you know, just because he is a specimen. You look at him. It's like, that's like a robocop type. That looks like, uh, the knockum, sock him robot. That's what is. He's just like, arms jacked, shoulders jacked, body, everything jacked. Just a, a machine. of a human, like actually looks like he was created in a lab. And if you go back through his DNA, he kind of was just like Olympic shit, professional athlete, all over the family tree. I mean, the whole family tree basically above him is that. So he was always going to be an incredible athlete, I think. But whenever you get a chance to watch him live, it's like,
Starting point is 01:36:44 damn, he's so explosive. He's so explosive. Holes tiny, he's gone. And then he's always moving, like whenever we were watching Tyree Kill back in the day. Christian McCaffrey's always moving. and he never celebrates shit. Touchdown obviously does. But in between plays, it's right back in there. I'm getting the ball again. Let's go ahead and do this. It's like as expected.
Starting point is 01:37:03 He's a special talent, this Christian McCaffrey guy. Watching him live was a different experience, I would say. Yeah, watch this play right here. Okay, you want to cover that? You want to be Zaire Franklin right there when he has a five-way go on you? That's just in the red zone especially. I cannot imagine how much attention you have to pay to Christian McCaffrey. But, yeah, him and you's check and that offense, they are absolutely rolling.
Starting point is 01:37:22 And Coach B.A. is right. Like Brock Purdy's on fire right now, man. He's feeling it. I think he's going to continue to roll. Is it Yushcheck, AQ? I know you've put a lot of spotlight on the fullback from Harvard, number 44. Is it Ushchek that really is the thing, or is it like all of it, obviously? I mean, it's all of it, but he makes it go because of all of the things that he can do.
Starting point is 01:37:41 It's all of the different things. He's interchangeable with Kittle, but then he's a great blocking fullback. Also, just read a stat earlier today since 2017, non-receiver, non-tight end. He has the most 20-plus catches in the NFL since 2017. Kyle Eusechecks. The juice is special. Always has been. He doesn't seem to ever slow down.
Starting point is 01:38:00 It looks like he's getting younger. He responded to my tweet about the Niners being a really good football team. And him say, yeah, they are, Pat. I don't like that. I'm kind of getting a sense of attitude from the Niners, you know, a little bit. Like, hey, you did your thing last night. You're welcome coming into a Loud House doing that. I say the Niners are a really good football team.
Starting point is 01:38:15 He responded, yeah, they are Pat, okay? And then George Kiddle, I sent him a godspeed on the ankle, you know, like you were unstoppable. He goes, I saw you in the pregame, blah, blah, blah. It's like, he didn't come say hello. He was talking like, yes, they are, Pat. Here you's check. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you want me to do? Why didn't they come say hello?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Now, I'm thinking about, oh, because they were too locked in on that ass beating. I mean, that offense was a machine. I mean, they were fun to watch. In Trent Williams, I mean, we don't even have to get into it. Well, we will. We will. We'll get there at some point. Okay, I'm excited to get into that.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Also, like, genuinely now after last night, concern for Brandon I, you, because if you're a wide receiver and you're watching that, How can you not be like, boy, I want to play with those guys so bad. So let me get this straight. If I just run my route right, which I can control. I can control me running my route. I just got to get to a spot at a certain time. This guy's never going to miss.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Is that what this is? There was one miss. We got to pick. In AQ, I think what you said was, you know, with his size, there are some things because he's going to have the trajectory of that thing is going to have to go up. So if it floats a little bit, tips and overthrows, got to get those. He does sometimes have those. right, Akeel? He sails the ball over the middle
Starting point is 01:39:23 a little bit every once in a while and you saw it last night the one interception but you think back to the Carolina game. It all comes down to timing and it's all this stuff over the middle of the field that he's trying to throw to a spot and if the timing's off just a little bit then that's when the interceptions come. Yeah, I think what's his
Starting point is 01:39:39 downfall is the weather that we've seen in some games down in Colorado Station in Chicago. When that wind's blowing, if you don't have a real strong arm, it's going to really affect your ball. And I think when he fails, sometimes it's
Starting point is 01:39:55 weather. All right. And I don't think it's something he can overcome. His arm's not getting any stronger. My God. So if he's going to go on the road, in the playoffs in bad windy weather, I think it'll really affect him. Okay. They might
Starting point is 01:40:11 have home game for the rest of the season. Now, Santa Clara, I don't know the wind. I know back in Candlestick, it was breezy out there in San Francisco. I don't know what Santa Clara is. But you're saying, because if we go back to the Cleveland game last year, I think about he had like three picks or whatever. It's like that was in Cleveland, right?
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah. It's like you're saying, hey, every once in a while, when you've got to deal with some real shit, and arm strength does kind of show up a little bit more, that is when it could potentially show up. I don't know. I saw him spinning that thing. He had a tight, tight spiral coach.
Starting point is 01:40:39 I mean, that thing's cutting through, I think, whatever. It's still loopy. It's still loopy, all right? It's not Marino. All right, it's loopy. It's on Aaron Rogers. It's amazing. But what about Peyton?
Starting point is 01:40:53 Payton had a little loopie, didn't he? He did. But he knew he would go out and warm up for an hour. The last game of the year, we're up in Cleveland. It's snowing. He said, we've got to go early. He went out through in each corner of the end zone to find the wind, where his ball was going. He got on the 50, every direction, and he knew exactly where his ball was going.
Starting point is 01:41:15 So, Brock, this is what we need to do. We need to find the wins in these places. Let's go ahead and get after that, is what. B.A. saying? It took it in a while. Going up there to Foxboro dealing with those elements, obviously dealing with the defenses, it definitely takes a while when you have to... So these last couple
Starting point is 01:41:31 games for San Frimm would be huge, but I'm going to trust the QB whisper's word. I don't... Yeah, it took Peyton so long that, you know, they started bitching and moaning about the physicality that the Bill Belichick DBs were using on the... Is the game got to a better
Starting point is 01:41:47 spot or not? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It kind of... I have the beholder. For all offense, yeah. For New England Patriots fans, yeah. Suck football fans. More people watching now
Starting point is 01:41:56 or whenever you guys wanted to grab on to Marvin Harrison and Reggie. We weren't grabbing. We were punishing. Yeah. We're bullying. What about Dallas Clark? We guys jumping on his back hugged.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Dallas Clark, yeah, right. He was probably bitching and moaning too. Dallas is jacked, by the way. Yeah, he looked good in that picture. He's as hard. I mean, he is this table. You hit him. That was the atmosphere over there.
Starting point is 01:42:18 It was a lot house. For a little. you know what the deal was. You know what the deal was. Go first quarter. No, the Pogo guys, the Pogo boys, ex-Pogo, extreme Pogoing. They're from Pittsburgh, actually, not from Indiana. And they sent it, I will say. They were doing front flips and backflips over other humans that they had never met before, other than the day of the rehearsal, I assume. So shout out to the ex-Pogo squad. And then Red Panda on a floor that was put together right before she went out there at the 50-yard line in front of 70,000 plus with a different song and different lighting. Not only the five bowls, also goes ahead and smash the six bowl grand finale for the Colts Carnival at halftime. It was a special night in a lot house. So yeah, I'd say it was a good environment. Red Panda was at halftime. There was glowing in dark humans.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Pogo sticks were going extreme. And yeah, Phil Rivers was spinning it all over the place. The lothouse was electrifying. Didn't I love that they were up against Glock? And, you know, just like you have to turn music off at 20 seconds on the play clock, just like the sound goes off at 15. I think there's an NFL rule on how much time you have to have
Starting point is 01:43:24 all of the field clear before a game at the end of halftime for regular season games and that time came right about right now. Okay, it's over PA guys, that's the show.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Trying to get everybody off the field, right? Because that is like against the rule and red pan is like, hold the phone. Bang. Let me go ahead and splash six. real quick. Was this her NFL debut? I think somebody said stadium debut. I do think somebody said
Starting point is 01:43:55 that. So, now granted, that was just people around suite. We were obviously gas in that situation, not pretty big. We were obviously going absolutely crazy for that, as everybody was. It wasn't just our suite. It was all 78s, whatever the thousands is, including a lot of Niners fans.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Really? In Niners' faith. It did feel that way on TV. Did feel that way. They were loud, dude. Holy shit. There was some Niners chance happening, and I was like, whoa and then you look up and it's all the red sea of red it's like holy shit where are they from they traveled it for california and they're like no actually i'm from chicago just massive nyers fan where are you from oh hi like niners faithful all across they had the plane in from atlanta was half nineers fans yeah i think i think niners fans are oh yeah nationwide brother travel well
Starting point is 01:44:39 fan base shout out montana steve young jeered jerry who's coach is rickie waters bill walsh Bill Walsh and George Seifert Mooch Big Mooch And Jeff Garcia What he did the T-O What he did the T-O and Jerry Rice Just outrageous
Starting point is 01:44:58 Coach Mooch is what you want for me The plan was to do that Did you ever hear that story For Coach Mooch? I don't think so I think the way it goes is It was Jerry Rice Appreciation Day and Tio won for like 14
Starting point is 01:45:12 maybe 150 yards And Jerry won for like Maybe a reception for eight yards or something like that. It was some sort of celebration for one of them, and the other person got the ball the entire game. And obviously, Mooch is the one who's to blame for that entire thing because he was the head coach.
Starting point is 01:45:28 I don't remember the exact, but it was like a full-on bobblehead, appreciation, celebration of existence for one of them, and any other guy just goes absolutely crazy. Oh, yeah, T.O. had 20 receptions for 283. Or Jerry Wright's Day. Like five games worth. Knowing Jerry Rice, like we know of.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Yeah, everybody's a competitor. 20 receptions for 200 yards. It was even more than what I said. From the AI over you now. Yeah, we don't know if they were there. I mean, they were probably doubling and tripling Jerry. They didn't want him on Bobblehead Day to put up 280 as well. So that's what Mooch says.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Mucci gives a whole, Jerry, they got three guys on, yeah. I don't know what this guy's wide open. He's a really good football player, too. We've got to give him the ball. And clearly he was seemingly always open, which that's the O football. That's right. Also breaking the 49ers Jerry Rice's record for 16 catched in a game. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:46:18 You see, you can't do that. You can't do that. But post-game, didn't Jerry retain his MVP of tailgate? I don't know. I don't know about that. I hope they won the game. I don't know about that. Jerry Rice-erone is delightful, and we certainly love everything about it.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I do think they won the game. Antio got the game ball. All right. Let's go to another segment. We run every week whenever coach, B.A. is here. It's a time where we state quotes as fact, and BA tells us if it's BS or no BS. Let's get to the first one. Go ahead, Con, man.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Yeah, Bruce, the most important thing on planet Earth in the year 2026 is an AI or public health. It's the refs contract negotiations with the NFL. Is that BS or no BS, BA? That is total no BS. Oh, AI is pretty important. This has to be done. We have to have professional referees. And just looking at the Detroit Pittsburgh game, the first pass interference,
Starting point is 01:47:20 I immediately called Dean Blanino and one of the other former referees, head of referees. They said, have they changed the rules? I said, no. If a DB is engaged with a wide receiver, there's no such thing as offensive pass interference. So Dugger does a great job of running into him. But that's a touchdown Detroit wins the game. By the rule book. Now the problem is we have
Starting point is 01:47:43 I don't know how many sets of officials that all have their own damn interpretation of the rules so that that right there is not offensive pass interference because the DB is engaged with the wide receiver. Hands are on the wide receiver. That's it. That's all
Starting point is 01:48:00 it takes and Detroit wins the game and they're still in the playoffs. So for me we need professional referees we've talked about having former players go to a boot camp. Give them a way to become referees, but these guys have to have accountability in the NFL office in New York, which they don't have. They only answer to the union. All right, that has to stop. I agree.
Starting point is 01:48:24 And their contract is up in May, and it's obviously a big deal. It's the first time that we have seen, and the NFL has always gone to bat very heavily for the NFL officials. They find people, if you say anything bad about the officials. They obviously come out and support them basically in any type of situation. Now with the contract coming up, it does feel as if there's a time where the NFL agrees with some of our narratives
Starting point is 01:48:47 about, hey, we could fix this, we should fix this. Like, allegedly, they can't talk to him from February until fall or whatever. Like, the NFL can't even talk to the refs after the season ends for like three, four months or whatever. It's like, how is that beneficial
Starting point is 01:48:58 to the game at all? And are you trying to spiteful negotiate? Are you trying to make the game better? And that's kind of where, you know, they can kind of hopefully change some things with these officials. But you talk about that pipeline of players, like, I don't know if it could be a boot camp or an academy, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:49:12 how do we figure out how to supply ourselves, the league, and create our own, as opposed to relying on high schools from around the country, high school leagues and organizations, colleges around the league and organization, how does the NFL build a more self-sufficient NFL official pipeline? I think that should be something that the big brain should be thinking about DeBuy. Absolutely, they've got to be. Because it's different than high school. It's different than college. There's 50 million people watching you on some of these things. It's like, we need you to be good. It's a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Obviously, it's a lot of interest, but a lot of people bet money, a lot of things. It's the fastest, biggest league, best league in the world. So you should have the best breaths in the world.
Starting point is 01:49:50 I mean, that's simple matter. And they should be fully committed to the team. Like, we are NFL officials. That's what we are. They should have their own team.
Starting point is 01:49:56 They should have their own pool of people. They should have their own schooling. They should have their own hangout. They should have their own trust falls. I mean, they should have their own shit, AJ. I think we're all seeing it the same way,
Starting point is 01:50:04 right? I think. yeah we absolutely are seeing it the same way there's so much money on the line too due to these calls and the NFL knows that so it's going to have to change I mean they're going to have to tweak things especially as we go before they go to ball for the good of ball for the good of ball for the good a ball let's go to the next BS or no BS with BA tie yeah coach of all the teams that are absolute shite in this case last in their divisions we're talking the jets
Starting point is 01:50:28 browns titans raiders giants Vikings and cardinals the new york football giants are the only team that will make the playoffs next year. Is that BS or no BS, B.A? I think that's no BES. That's a lot of teams. What the Giants are doing right now, and then their division, Eagles is the first time to ever, what, 21 years? The winnings division two years in a row. You got Jackson, Dart, Scadaboo, neighbors, all those young pass rushers. If they can fix that secondary, free agency and the draft, I would watch out for the Giants next year making a big jump. You like their defense? I love their defense. Yeah, those kids that can rush the passers,
Starting point is 01:51:04 They're all young, too. So you're saying, Jets, yeah, right. Brines, who knows? Titans, I don't think so. Raiders, yeah, right. Vikings with 9 and Kevin O'Connell, another year you're saying they're not going to make the playoffs? Not with J.J. versus Love, Williams, and golf. No, JJ ain't beat those guys.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Pansy North is tough. And then the Cardinals, obviously, nobody really has any hope for over there, except for maybe their color commentator. A.Q, he's saying Cardinals not making a playoffs next year. What's that all about? Yeah, they're in a tough spot. They got to figure some things out. They got to figure the quarterback situation out. They got to figure out the offensive line.
Starting point is 01:51:38 They got to get some better players on defense. They got to stop getting injured. They're the most injured team in the NFL. So they got a lot of things to fix. The last BS or no BS with B.A.D. But, wow. There will be wholesale changes in Baltimore this all season. Lamar Jackson might be gone.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Hardball might be gone. The Ravens are about to enter a completely different era. BS or no BS BS. That's total bullshit, brother. What? Lamar ain't going nowhere. Okay. And I don't think the owner's going to move anything on John.
Starting point is 01:52:07 They need to get healthy, but they've got to get back to the Ravens way of defense. What I'm watching is not the Ravens. The Ravens were the toughest, baddest bunch of some bitches I've ever played against with Suggs. And you go all the way back to all the past rushers they've had, Holoina, and Ray Lewis and all those guys. I don't see the alpha, mean, tough dogs. on the Baltimore Ravens defense, they got to get back to that, and they'll be right back. Do you think they'll be able to do that in one offseason,
Starting point is 01:52:39 D, but it's hard to shift a culture back to something, right, once it's already been killed. This is BAs on. Yeah, I'm a firm believer, obviously, in talent, and I think Harbaugh is a good coach, and that's who they've kind of historically been at their core, so, yeah, I think they can get back to that. All right, maybe Baltimore bounces back with the same pieces.
Starting point is 01:52:54 I know the Baltimore Ravens fans will be pumped up about that, A.J. I know they'll be excited about that. Yeah, I think so, but I think one or two people can change the whole culture of a defense. I think you can do that. Well, what's going on with Indianapolis in? Because I thought Louie and Rubovs come out. I mean, injury, things, people get hurt. Things happen, man, you know. We got no first rounders, got
Starting point is 01:53:14 no quarterback. Got two pro bowlers, though. Yeah. And at least you didn't pay any times before all this happened. No, we shouldn't. We... You lose those corners. That changes every. That's like using both your office tackles. Yeah. And when are they playing again? Are they? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:53:32 this season. No. Thanks. You got... Godspeed, boys. We need you. Trevor Lawrence and the Jags this week. Bounce back. And then who? So I'm an easy team? Yeah. No, you're at Houston. At Houston? Yeah, home versus the drags at Houston.
Starting point is 01:53:49 It can be done. Great as almost guys. Possible. Great is almost guy. Chip in a chair. Boom. That's AJ. Nice, Pat. From all of us to you. Merry Christmas. We appreciate the hell out of you. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice to change your life.
Starting point is 01:54:01 I think we got it in. Merry Christmas was good. You guys really crushed it. That was pretty good. AJ, how about that? Shout to Hembo for the questions. Good questions. The early double down by BA was key.
Starting point is 01:54:15 That was huge. Yeah, I thought that was a big play. We honestly didn't know how it was going to go. We had never done it before. I kind of threw it together before the show pretty quickly before the show. Shout to Hembo, Dodge Duck, Dip, diving and dodging his way into sending us over the perfect amount of questions from what we were looking for. And the right questions. AQ, I thought was going to maybe go Ofer after this first couple.
Starting point is 01:54:33 AQ, you thought you were in a deep water there early. You thought you had a chance because there was a little bit more confidence before the show than maybe in the moment when you were asked some questions. It's one of those things when you get the question, you think you have the answer, and then you see it and you talk yourself into about five others. Like I had the Trent Williams one, right? And then I was like, Aaron Rogers has been playing for 20 years. There's no way he hasn't made more than 10 Pro Bowls.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Yep. He's only made 10. Well, how about Ryan Day and then going to the YouTube chat? That was smart. Shout out to the chat. Debutt, you would be in the link from the chat. I felt like that one was kind of lay up. I just said the other name.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Yeah, a little bit of all of them. That was the, yeah. I didn't know if Deepa was saying actual the chat or just his thoughts. Go ahead. The putt was huge. Oh, the mulligan, putt was a good putt. He got wrong. Hey, I just want to let you guys know something.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Okay. Somebody sent me a message. One of the Super Bowls was at the Rose Bowl. Technically, that's considered Pasadena. But if you count. that technically still LA that's eight Super Bowl so maybe we should add a half a point
Starting point is 01:55:35 maybe we should add a half a point we're going all of California now it was stadium it was stadium yeah but then I clarified and I asked about city and you did say I did say city but with stadium being on there not stadiums I mean I don't know
Starting point is 01:55:53 what the actual that's a good point if that's accurate if that's accurate that's a good point Of course it's accurate. Somebody sent it to me. Of course it's accurate. Yeah, of course, exactly. Pasadena and L.A.
Starting point is 01:56:04 All right, how about this? All right. All right. How about this? Uh-oh. You're a final question? We will donate 10,000 to each of yours, okay, charities of choosing because of the Los Angeles mix up.
Starting point is 01:56:18 And we didn't really have rules, bylaws, guidelines for this thing. Sure. For an extra $5,000 donation. Uh, could we get dry race boards? Could you try race boards? is that the one you had earlier no yeah yeah it is I give you all right
Starting point is 01:56:35 switch up your luck there you go thanks thanks you know it's not the board it ain't the one it's a wizard you never know though he really don't know you don't want to change he looks very confident he doesn't even know the question relax over there AJ doesn't even know the question
Starting point is 01:56:52 well AQ's already riled up yep he's in his head that's what AQ's at his best That's right. He's in a second-in-a-Q. You go with your first instant. Yep, that's the one.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Merry Quismus for $5,000 bonus. If you both get it right, it'll be layup. A donation of $5,000 to each. Fran Tarkington broke whose NFL record for career pass yards in 1976. Fran Tarkenton, obviously, a quarterback that we absolutely love. The quarterback that did this has a lot of connections to us on. Wow. On the set here
Starting point is 01:57:30 Okay 1976 So obviously we're thinking of old time Football players here Can write your guesses down If you have a dry race board in front of you AJ do you have a guess of a couple it could be I have one guess
Starting point is 01:57:51 Okay Wait wait wait a Q's AQ's changing his answer AQ's got no fucking clue he also just Googled it on his phone. No, I don't think he has his phone out. We've been watching.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Yes. Here we go. Okay. Okay. All right. A.Q. just made a little bit of an audible there. B.A., can I see your hand? Okay. I think we have similar answers from AQ and B.A.
Starting point is 01:58:20 AJ, would you like to give your answer on what you think it is? I was thinking since you said connections, I think in Old Arch Manning for a second. Okay. Arch Manning, maybe with the Ains. I don't know how many years he played before 1976. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Ty, what is your guest here in this entire thing? It's Johnny Unitius. Wow, that your answer is the same, I believe, as B.A.'s answer, which is the same as AQ's answer. No. AQ, who'd you put up there? Joe Namath. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Johnny United. BA.
Starting point is 01:58:51 AQ, what connection do we have, Joe? He's on Game Day. Four years ago. Come on. You're Colts, baby Colts, Colts Colts Isn't Joe Named
Starting point is 01:59:02 from Beaver Falls? I think Where's Johnny Units from? Oh, okay. I was thinking Pittsburgh when you said that I was thinking Pittsburgh. Yeah, he's from Pittsburgh too.
Starting point is 01:59:11 God. So yes, I was talking about that. Johnny is from Pittsburgh? Yeah, that's why I said, hey, a lot of connections. Where's Johnny U from? I thought he went to Towson University
Starting point is 01:59:22 in Baltimore. No, he went to Louisville, baby. Jesus. Come on. Sounds like I'm great at trivia. No, it sounds like you you act like you're graded. You're set up for fear.
Starting point is 01:59:30 That was 1976. That was leaning towards BA. That was the only last question we had left. It says Pittsburgh PA here. Let me see. Yeah, no other. It actually says Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is where he's from. He was born in McGee.
Starting point is 01:59:43 He was born in McGee. He was born in McGee, Women's Hospital, like myself, and I think you as well, maybe. And I think he was actually his home, first 10 years of his life. The point, he actually lived at the fountain. They're at the point in between the three rivers. Where they're setting up the draft.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Yeah, the most Pittsburgh. that somebody could be from. Perfect. And, yeah, he grew up on Mount Washington. Wow. The highest sport of Pittsburgh. I was thinking of Beaver County. That's where I'm from.
Starting point is 02:00:09 A lot of connections. A lot of connections. I was trying to give you the answer. Mr. Rooney always said that was the biggest mistake you ever made. Letting Johnny out? Not drafted him. Yeah, let him go. Yeah, let him go.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Yeah, because it would have been a Pittsburgh legend, obviously, forever. In the way he played, how long he played. Extra $5,000 of your donation in AQ, I guess, if that ends up being true. Pasadenae thing. If it ends up being true. If not, deduct it down. You would donate.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Yeah. Perfect. You're donating as well. All right, let's get to a break on the other side. Congratulations. Two-time Merry Christmas Champion. Thank you. A-Q. You're completely defeated. It was like, you know, Buffalo Wild Wings did that trivia thing where they start giving you the clues, but the points get down. It's like, I genuinely thought saying,
Starting point is 02:00:53 with eyes. Oh, yeah. I thought that was like giving you the Buffalo Wildings. I was trying to help you out. To my credit, almost every quarterback in the Hall of Fame comes from Pittsburgh, so. To your credit. To my credit. You did that to them. Bingo.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Way to put them in the Hall of Fame. O for two, completely duffeated in Quismus. It's always next year. But we shouldn't focus on the negative. It's always next year. Let's focus on all you golfers. That's why you press on the third hole. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:21 It's a good time to press. But if you're getting your ass kicked, you're going to have to do that again. Press going into 18. All the way. Everton Just keep pressing Go for the throat Man, I didn't expect you to be
Starting point is 02:01:32 a completely defeated Quismus player It's so bad Telflo for Pittsburgh Sounds a holly jolly time Sounds like if we would have done like 1990 to 1990 1995 Pittsburgh Steelers trivia
Starting point is 02:01:41 Though Would have nailed it Would have fucking knock it up A couple more Penn State Number 95 for the Pittsburgh steals Which time I mean you want to go Greg Lloyd You want to go Kendrow Bell
Starting point is 02:01:51 We want to keep going How about right now? Let's go Craig Lloyd Catcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates, obviously. I mean, come on. Come on. Andy Van Slike and the boys, let's go.
Starting point is 02:02:04 No. I'm not looking for one. He's looking at Jason Kendall. He's the final answer. Of course. I knew that one. Greatest pop time of all time. Jason Kendall.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Michael Lavalier. He didn't have a whole on Benito Santiago, but we know that. What's that, buddy? He didn't have much on Benito Santiago. He revolutionized the game from the catcher position. What did Benito do that you love so much? You know, everything. He started throwing.
Starting point is 02:02:26 dudes out from his knees, bro. He's how flexible. Put on some Benito highlights. Jason Kendall would catch the pitch, drop the glove, throw with his off hand, throw people out. What are we talking about revolution?
Starting point is 02:02:35 That's pretty quick, pop time. That's not real. You ever watch Jason Kendall play baseball? That's not rude. Exactly. I have. So I've been here.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Seems inefficient, too. There's no Mike Piazza. He's a showhead of the catching position. Well, with all due respect, neither one of these fucking guys are Mike Piazza, but, you know, not even had Dias. Yeah, I was going to say,
Starting point is 02:02:53 that's a story for a different day. you need the watch. Mike Piazza was a fucking dog. Yeah. Still burning it. It's from Pennsylvania too. Who's this? Who's this highlight of? That's Benito Santiago. He did revolutionize the game. Holy shit. He's young. He played for 25 years, too.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Oh, no one was doing that before him. Sorry about it. I mean, he was way early. I mean, that guy was halfway to second. Perfect, bro. I guess I'm being told there was a little bit of some conversation about him during his career on potential enhancements and stuff like that. Yeah, I've been all those guys. That was that era. I wasn't against the rules. Yeah, they didn't know. I mean, everybody was doing it. Hey, he's a little trembling.
Starting point is 02:03:34 Allegedly. He wouldn't. That was early in his career. Wait until you see Benito Santiago with the Reds, circa 20, 2003. Look a little different? Yeah, it looked a little different. That's what I was following. That's what I was a big fan. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't think it was, the, is that the White Sox there? Who was he playing for? Shit, I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Audres, I believe. He played so long. He played for probably 18s, 19s. Always having a good mustache like that? I think he, I want to say, AJ, did he not transition to more of a goatee later in his career? He went goatee later on in his career. He played for like 30 years, so he went through a lot of errors. So Benito and Jason Kendall pretty similar.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Two peas and a pod. And you're saying Piaz is not in that pod? No. What's that all about? What do you mean? Piaz is at the fucking top of the tree. What about Charles Johnson? Is he close?
Starting point is 02:04:20 As a catcher or a hit? Who the fuck is that? Charles Johnson? Florida Martin's legend. Florida Martin Legend, actually. No. Pudge, Rodriguez. Martyrs don't have any legend. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Detroit, same team.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Oh, won't the World Series title. So we know Cal Raleigh is the best catcher ever. So then Piazza's number two? Jason Veritas, too. Jason Veritas number two. And then Piazza's number three? Pudges up there. Piazza, you know, you got Johnny Bench.
Starting point is 02:04:52 You got, yeah. Molina Rodriguez, Yaddi Molina. Jorge, what do you do it? I mean, I'm not just going to be a homer. Joe Bissada, but yeah, Pasada is pretty fucking good, Twitch hitter. So, Cal Raleigh is the best of all time? No. No.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Best hitting catcher. No, he had a great year. He's not on. Are you not even giving best hitting catch? No, Piazza did it for a year after a year, after a year, after a year, after a year, after a year, after year. And he was doing it with guys. Yeah, and on and a one. And on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 02:05:26 And he was doing it against guys who were taking steroids and throwing 145 miles an hour. You got guys like Clemens hulking up getting a broken bat back at him and saying, you know what, fucking, I'm just going to throw this barrel right at Piazza's head, try to shake him, shake him up a little bit. He did that in the World Series to him, you know? So Piazza had a rough run, but he's a fucking legend. He's your favorite catcher? No. Jorge Posada is, but bar none.
Starting point is 02:05:49 But I do love Mike Piazza. Jason Kendall, where's he at? He's up there. He's up there. He's up there. No batting gloves, and he used to just fucking grit the sawdust off the bat. Yeah, Big Chaw's always, obviously. 50, what? Top 50 catchers, probably. Well, he's, easily.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Yogi, baby. Oh, Yogi Berra. So, Johnny Beggs. You can't forget, yo. Nothing goes to sold out games anyways or something like that. What's that? He's no Johnny Benj. Oh, how about Mickey Conchran?
Starting point is 02:06:17 He was the standard. Conchran, yeah. The lawyer? Yeah, Mickey Carter. They called him. Elson Howard. Really? I didn't know you were going to bring him up today.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Big else. Geez. Houston Howard. That fucker could do it. He would just always like from here to here was just so cool. Yeah. He was like Sammy Ball. He invented the forward pass.
Starting point is 02:06:40 And then, you know, not just Mickey Cochran. Fisk. Carl Fisk. Oh, Buster Pose. Buster Posey. Yeah. Be Pose. So good.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Whoa. What are you putting that up? What are you talking about? That's my brain on this. play right there. You're a big David Ross guy. You got Piazza at 7. Love Grandpa Ross. Is he he played catch? Yeah, he ain't going to
Starting point is 02:06:59 find himself on any top. What the fuck you're talking about? You know what he's doing for United States of America? I do. He's a great skipper. Great manager and he was a good player, but you can find him on those lists. Grandpa Rossi gave me a bat in practice in the middle of a tour bus one day and I appreciate that. And then immediately afterwards he said
Starting point is 02:07:15 that shit, I was only 200 hit around. He's like you do whatever you want. Exactly. It was one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. One of the greatest lines I've ever heard. And then he went on to recruit a pitcher to hopefully join Team USA. And it sounds like we got a real squad. Still doing it. We got big names like week over week or saying like, yeah, there's something different about Don and the Stars and Stripes. And Bryce Harper, it was either this morning or yesterday announced he's going to play too. We are going to have the best team by far. And Grandpa Rossi, I'm telling you, when I was standing
Starting point is 02:07:45 in this bus with him, baseball player comes in, his eyes lit up. He's like, we need to get him on Team USA and I'm like okay good luck out there he's like no no like how are we gonna right now what are we doing like he very much they're all in on like team USA baseball like trying to win this thing and uh I love that just watching them and I'm not I don't know the baseball that well I've tried to get into the baseball here you know MLB not the MLB obviously I've tried to get into MLB because of how kind and how awesome some of the shit was this year great storylines yeah this year across it so I've tried my best to get in there watching his excitement to do do what he was doing, and then learning about his career
Starting point is 02:08:23 and who he was. It's like, that guy's a living legend. That guy's a living legend. It'd be a cool feather in his cap, too, to be the, you know, on the coaching staff when if all goes right and we do win this year. Cool. Yeah, Bryce Harper put the colors on my chest for the first time. I was 15.
Starting point is 02:08:39 No other feeling like it. I'm excited to announce I'll be representing Team USA this year in the World Baseball Classic America. Hell yeah, boys. That's what we're talking about. Paul is in there too, right? Yep. is school he's talking about Aaron Judge
Starting point is 02:08:56 yeah he's a team captain so yeah he'll be there he'll be there the world baseball classic is they gotta beat those two Dodger pitchers yeah well Dodgers Japan also doesn't just have those two Dodgers pitchers they have the next two of those too as well and hitting there it's unbelievable the depth they have
Starting point is 02:09:14 so Japan's the best this is who are yeah it's gonna be us in Japan DRs they don't have Yeah, their lineup is really good They look good D.R. Even to the casual. They do look good.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Yeah. Stod. Stod. Homer. D.R. Yeah. You would know probably seven out of the nine guys. We met all those guys down at the all-star game.
Starting point is 02:09:40 I'm big fan of them. They were very cool. I will say that Dominican fellows were the most awesome group and the tightest group. Yes. And they have the obvious benefits. of being able to speak to their own language, but then I think they have their own language within their own language,
Starting point is 02:09:52 and I think everybody wishes they were a part of it. From my understanding of just hanging out at MLB All-Star Game on the bench with the players, the Dominican crew was the coolest crew to be a part of, and they were very tight. Family coming in and out. Talking shit, certainly in Spanish by everybody else, having a good time.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Is it same time as World Cup? No. No. It's in, like, late February, early March. Oh, so it's coming up. Yeah, maybe it starts in like the first week of March, but that's why pitchers and catchers usually report in February, and that's why all these guys are.
Starting point is 02:10:27 So it'll be pretty quick, yeah. So not too long after the Super Bowl ends. Week after the Combine. Yeah. Let's go. Thank you, baseball. Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game.
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Starting point is 02:11:15 Football. He's awesome. That's AJ Hawk. That was coach Bruce Ariens. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here alongside 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley. The toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Everybody in the back.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Great work today, boys. Now, we're going to wrap this up in beautiful fashion. It's going to be in a fashion of learning more about ball, getting smarter, maybe learning about things that you don't normally hear about. It's time to go, AJ, in the trenches with AQ Shipley. Hey, A.C. Top five, performing offensive lines coming out of week 16 of the. the NFL season.
Starting point is 02:11:49 AQ, who's number five? Wow. You guys got to see it up close and personal last night. San Francisco 49ers. Congratulations, the Niners. Very good football team, but let's just take note of one of the greatest to ever do it. Let's watch Trent Williams, the left tackle as he climbs, watch him block two linebackers. Not one.
Starting point is 02:12:06 Now watch him get off that and get the other one. That's a hold. It looks like a hold. He just looks like a spider monkey. The way he moves at his size is unbelievable. But short yard is play. They go 27 zone. Kyle Eusecheck has no one to block because Trent Williams block.
Starting point is 02:12:19 both guys. This was the play afterwards, Trent's in the huddle looking up with that thing. Makes sense why he was watching. I mean, you should not be able to do that at age 37, let alone the size that he's at. What an absolute monster left tackle. It's incredible. He's the best of this generation, hands
Starting point is 02:12:35 down. We talked about it earlier. Eleven pro bulls. He's been all pro, I think three times, but he is he's one of a kind. He's one of a kind. Ushack was leading away there for Christian McCaffrey. Obviously, George Kittle moves body. There's 89, I think, was another one last night, There's so many tight ends moving bodies.
Starting point is 02:12:52 It feels like you have to be, yeah, 89 also. Yeah, okay, so there's just so many people moving bodies last night. You have to be fully committed in this Niners' offense, huh? You have to. And then look at Joanne Jennings. Joanne Jennings gets a great block there. He's one of the best, if not the best blocking receiver in football. And I think it's a mentality, it's an attitude, and it's a pre-reck to play football for
Starting point is 02:13:11 for Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers that everybody has to block. AJ, they kicked our ass last night, that's for sure. Congress today, I'm number five offensive line. Who's number four performing offensive line of week 60? Wow. The Philadelphia Eagles, and we will take notice today. The five teams in this group, they're all playoff teams. The cream is starting to rise to the crop.
Starting point is 02:13:30 I hope so. It's week 16. Yeah, the cream is starting to rise to the crop. Yeah, no more politic and they get on the top five list. No, no, no, politics. Philadelphia Eagles, back-to-back division champs, they certainly have their own home playoff game. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Seekwon had over 100, but they had multiple guys run the football well. If we can pause this, when the hole opens up, We're going to get a toss play to the left. Look at this thing. First of all, the commander stink on defense. Look at the size of that hole to run through. My man, Quinn, my man Quinn is sitting here saying he wants to see them again in two weeks because they ran it up a little bit.
Starting point is 02:14:03 But listen, they do not want to see this team again because Philly's going to beat the brakes off them again because they stink on defense. Big gaping hole. Do they have 11 on the field, Dee Butt? I'm just like, if you pause it right here. Yeah. Like you got one, two, a couple guys over on the ball. A couple guys in a row.
Starting point is 02:14:21 I mean, that is, I don't know if I've ever seen that on tape. That's crazy. What else going on is he? Isn't Quinn a defensive guy, AJ? What the hell is going on in Washington? I mean, when things go bad, sometimes they kind of, it continues to go bad. Everyone's trying to get out of the gap and make a play. It's tough.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Defense is tough. B.A., is that physicality there from the Philadelphia Eagles? You're going to have them go back-to-box Super Bowl champions? Are they back to who they're supposed to be? As long as they can play with the lead. because they're not a comfort behind team. Oh, you're saying a little bit of frontrunner situation going on in Philadelphia. I definitely think so.
Starting point is 02:14:52 I just don't love their passing attack when they're behind. Okay. If they can keep this thing on the ground, they'll continue to dominate. Their offensive line, top five in the NFL, congrats them. They were the number one offensive line last year in the trenches with AQ. Obviously, still time to do that. Number three, offense aligned, they invested in it in the off season. Yeah, the Chicago Bears have been fantastic, and they ran the shit out of the football.
Starting point is 02:15:14 I love this group. They're physical in the cold. They can run it well, but look at the right side right here. Cole Komet, so it starts with him. Blocking tight end number 85. Watch him, arc out. Boom, arc out. Just freezes the D-N just a little bit, and then you run old-school power.
Starting point is 02:15:27 You get Tunei around. You get Colston Loveland. You get the big tray block. Go back. Look at Darnell right, number 58, in that tray block with Benedict getting up to the second level. That is December football, as you would say, Bruce Ariens, right? Just pound the football, old school, power, duo, all that type of stuff. This team is built for that.
Starting point is 02:15:46 Football Beer? What's that mean? It's time to run the football, but they did a great job of not asking the tight end to block the big defense event. And that's usually where you fail. You know, a tight end blocking a 290 pound defense event, that's not a fair fight. Ben Johnson, though, has the leverage
Starting point is 02:16:02 and sets up his guys to be able to block well, right? That's why any Ben Johnson system is going to have a good offensive line you would have. Yeah, no question. It's work smarter, not harder, right? I think that's the biggest key to the really good offensive lines right now, but I used to love my man, Coach Ariens, whenever we'd go play Seattle. We'd walk in on Wednesday. You know what he would say?
Starting point is 02:16:19 It's a tight ends, D-ends matchup, boys. Get ready. Buckle up. Love everything about it. AJ, Ben Johnson, one year getting a physicality culture and it was good. It's gotten better. Might be the best. You know what I mean? He never let it rest. I see what you did there. Yeah, with his play design and their how they do play, it is going very, very well for them right now. Well, and it's only going to get good and better and then best, but actually, because it's literally just his first year there. Caleb Williams, obviously buying into the system more and more each week. Is that what you're seeing? He's been fantastic the last couple of weeks. He really is. And I talked to Clyde Christensen yesterday.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Great quarterback coach, long time coach. We all know him. He mentioned about the NFC North and the fact that Caleb Williams' arm strength being able to, as you talked about earlier, cut through the wind on some of these things. It looks like it doesn't affect his balls at all. Yeah, he has a... He's got a cannon. Yeah, he does. He does, certainly. Yeah, he guys got a hose out there. Big old hose. He spins it. Yes, he does. Big strong hose Caleb's got big strong hose Balls are unaffected
Starting point is 02:17:19 Yes, balls are unaffected by the wind Or anything else Actually, because he's got that big Strong hose coming out there And that ball Seems to levitate You know, and just straight across It is
Starting point is 02:17:31 He got a 25-yard strike And it's just Come on his hand like a seat Might see him later It does come out like a sea Yeah, big strong hose Just shoot the seed out there And it's just
Starting point is 02:17:41 Through the sky Yep. Especially if you can play action, suck the guys up, then you use that big strong hose, and then he delivered a seed. Yeah, and that's what they're doing up there. Ben Johnson also, you notice how to navigate that big strong hose. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:17:55 Because he had Jared Gough of that big hoser. Yeah. And then obviously you move your offense down here, and now you've got to a little bit of extension, you know, extending to play and stuff like that. You know, you can really use full playbook whenever you have that. It's only getting started up there. So we talk about Drake May and Josh McDaniels just getting started.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Ben Johnson in Chicago's only getting started. started. That's crazy to think about. And when they started, the first investment were three offense alignment, and now it's paying off, you're saying. Absolutely. I mean, we've talked about this at nauseam. They draft Darnell Wright, but then they go get three new guys in the interior of that offensive line. It starts there. You build from there just like Detroit did, and all of a sudden you got a good team. All right, let's go to the number two performing offensive in the NFL season, the Buffalo Beals. Congratulations to the Beals. Yeah, the Buffalo Bills looked awesome. And I liked what they did against this
Starting point is 02:18:41 defense. You get an up-the-field penetrating defense. Obviously, Miles Garrett wants to rush the passer. So they took advantage of that. They ran a lot of traps, quick hitters, but they also ran some crack tosses. We used to call this flip at eight. Watch, send the tight end in motion, fake one way, flip the other, but you get the fullback
Starting point is 02:18:57 out in front. You get Spencer Brown out in front. McGovern out in front. Look at Big Dion Dawkins. Just made the Pro Bowl. Congrats. Big Dion out in front. But all the boys buying in getting downfield, getting blocks. That's how you get the home run. You already, you know, with Dionne Dawkins, you know, he's up for offense alignment of the year every single year
Starting point is 02:19:13 makes another Pro Bowl. I think the worry is, does Josh Allen have the team around him to be able to win a Super Bowl? If they let James Cook. That offensive line can do it, huh? B.A., what are your thoughts on the Buffalo Bills taking a long run? Yeah, they got everything except a number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 02:19:29 And if somebody can just emerge, I don't care who it is, as somebody to stop. You're not stopping James Cook. So they can change the math a little bit. hoping that somebody can emerge as somebody that might change the math on the defense aside a little bit of attention on somebody on the outside we have to put two over there if you can load the box you if you can corner can shut down their best guy you're looking at a loaded
Starting point is 02:19:53 box all day won't happen this year what nobody stepping up keon coleman in one of these weeks yeah healthy scratch what does that mean what does that mean you're good you're healthy you ain't playing. No, okay. I understand that. Please, thank you. The rudimentary breakdown of what is actually happening on a healthy scratch. Something missing. Yeah, but what is it? Because there was, what, something about late, and I think Dion Dawkins came out and started helping him be
Starting point is 02:20:21 a pro, and then there's, he's still around and we're hoping for the best. It's like, I don't think I fully understand the situation going on. Did he play last year? Yeah, played last year. Actually, had a great start. So what happened? I don't think, I don't think, played well in that game against the Raven. Yeah, in week one. He played well. Started amazing. And I know Bill's fans are still Pitts because they traded that pick that the
Starting point is 02:20:38 Chiefs took Xavier Worthy. Yeah, I know one of them was disciplinary, but I don't think this. I'm not sure. Nothing came out if it was. I don't, I think this was just what B.A. said, like, yeah, you're healthy, but not going help us. So, you know, because 53 on the roster, you only dress with 46. So it's always a decision made around
Starting point is 02:20:55 game day. So you've got to be very disappointed if you're a Buffalo fan. He drafted him high. He didn't spend this offseason with the team, but to a comment's point, he did start off this season well, but this point in the season, this is when you need a guy to be stepping up and changing the math. He has
Starting point is 02:21:10 the, he's a freak athlete, so it's got to be between the ears at this point. I mean, you just can't have a situation where a guy you basically drafted in the first round isn't going to help the team win on Sunday. We've seen them have big games, though. I'm so confused by this entire situation. Honestly, I'm very confused because I thought
Starting point is 02:21:26 we all believed in the Buffalo Bill's culture, right? Yeah. We all believe in the way they develop in how they're a team and how the chemistry and all of that stuff. We believe in. We watch it on hard knocks. And then to see this talent not I don't know and there's all kind of like talking around it it's like what is it
Starting point is 02:21:42 is he not good anymore does he not know the plays is he not a good teammate is he not around it'll be nice to know because to your point if they do get somebody that can maybe draw a little bit of attention everything else comes like little on the Josh Allen powers he's running all by himself on a lighter box would be nice well and King
Starting point is 02:21:58 K too's been banged up and they drafted him in the first round as if he was going to be a number one as well so like maybe if he gets more healthy and also they paid Kaleel real secure about $65 million. So they do have money in the wide receiver room. I guess they just don't have one of the guys. Sean McDermott
Starting point is 02:22:14 on Keon Coleman being inactive. Just a combination of receivers offensively that we wanted up. And then obviously McColl was moved into a five spot there for primarily special teams first. But also a little bit of receivers well, I mean, we're trying to figure it out up there. They got Josh out there going to be in every game. They got an offensive line. We fucking hate this guy, man.
Starting point is 02:22:30 It sounds like, I don't want to say it, because I don't want to start any drama, but it certainly sounds like They are very disappointed that that's part of their team. Yeah, I won't go as far as saying they hate them, but that's a real thing on game. When you're not being productive on the offensive defense side and you don't produce on special teams, but I talked about it a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Like, I knew early on the NFLK. I'm not going to be a special teams guy. In my second year, I remember one time I walked in the locker room, and I saw my shit, I saw a sweatsuit in my locker and my pass. I'm like, what the hell is going on? And boom, Bill called me in. Hey, you're not going to be up today. So that was a huge wake-up call.
Starting point is 02:23:08 Like, all right, you better figure out how to impact the game and how to not be replaceable because every time if you are that third, fourth, fifth receiver or a corner or something and you're not producing those special teams, your asses on that borderline every week. Keon Coleman needs to start forcing fair catches. You know, he needs to start forcing some fair catches.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Put him a gunner, maybe make it happen. That's a crazy situation. Hopefully they're able to figure it all out going forward. And, ladies and gentlemen, wow. What? This is big. Incredible. The number one offensive line in the NFL for week 16 of the NFL season in the trenches with Akew Shipley is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Here we go. Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. I think Philadelphia Eagles potentially the number one offensive line after week 16 last year, they ended up being the number one offensive line in the entire NFL all season and the trenches and they also won the Super Bowl because they're offensive line. Is the Pittsburgh Steelers' offensive line
Starting point is 02:24:12 something that can win games for them over there? The interesting thing is they've had some injuries so they've put the backups in. The backups are playing better than the starters. So maybe we need to stay with this left tackle. Dylan Cook, he's been fantastic. Since he has stepped in, he's been great. Spencer Anderson, who's kind of their do-it-all
Starting point is 02:24:29 Swiss Army knife. He's big tight end in this particular picture. He's number 74, so he's the big, tight end but he also started the game at left guard so anytime they go big package he moves out to tight end they bring and just pete in sometimes he plays fullback sometimes he plays tackle and unbalanced i mean this guy's their swiss army do it all but it all starts with the steady guy that's zach fraser the center let's take a look at this has a great reach block man right there on the nose guard yep great reach block front side dylan cook gets enough of them and then jalen
Starting point is 02:24:59 warren see you later look at fraser running down field boys celebrating This is old-school Pittsburgh football. Connor Hayward was fantastic playing fullback in this game. I mean, they looked really good. And if they can do this, then that opens up. Aaron doesn't want to throw the ball 40 times a game. If Aaron can get a 230-yard rushing day and only have to throw it 15 times, that's what this Pittsburgh Steelers team has made.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Aaron can still chess. Obviously, Dan Rolovsky broke this play down where he had D.K. run the bubble to get the safety out of there, so there's nobody filling the gap from over the top. Jalen Warren breaks through the first layer, and then bang, it's off the. the races. The Steelers now become an explosive offense through the sky and the ground. It's certainly alarming if you're another team in the AFC. Let's go to Hammer.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Die! Tad! Number one offense line in the NFL tone. What an absolute thing in Fuity. That's the first time they've ever been on, ever in any position. One through five. And now week 16, they're number one.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Rogers is commanding the offense. Everything is coming up black and gold. Seven's coming home, boys. It really is. How do you, genuinely, how do you feel about the backups playing better than the starters? And do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers will acknowledge that it's a good group right now? So where the backup situation is happening is at left tackle. And we took Broderick Jones years ago in the first round, and he was always very, very highly talented. It never came all together.
Starting point is 02:26:22 There was injuries and stuff like that since Broderick has been out. There was another injury at left tackle. And then Dylan Cook stepped in. In the last two games, he's been unbelievable. So like the left tackle position has really been the backup position. And him coming in and being great there is a surprise that shocked all. It's not like he's a young player. I think he's like 29.
Starting point is 02:26:40 But him coming in there being awesome. See him all who's the left guard who is out this game. But he's the veteran in that lineup. He's been really good all season. And then the three, the center, right guard, right tackle have been the same all season long. Those are the young studs either in their first or second year. So, yeah, that being all together, like them coming together and potentially being the line of the future is really, really good. Tell me about Zach Frazier having to deal with three and nine.
Starting point is 02:27:04 The cadences of Aaron, right? Isn't that something that this entire offensive line has to deal with? Well, we talked about it, too. Deal with, get to deal with, I guess. I'm saying it as a negative thing. It's certainly a positive, though, but it's a lot. It's cadences. It's switching formations.
Starting point is 02:27:17 It's switching plays and audibles. It's switching mics. These quarterbacks, the really good ones, the ones that play it, the way it's supposed to be played, are constantly making calls and moving. And if it's now all of a sudden, it could be a double cadence, and then all the sudden you change the thing. Now it goes to the next sound.
Starting point is 02:27:32 So there's a lot they put on. the center in these things, especially with all the moving and changing and shaking that Aaron does. I believe he has cauliflower, your high school wrestler. Love that. One more time, Fox, you're sorry, but McCormick and Fautano, or Fotonu, Troy, whatever, what's their celebration
Starting point is 02:27:48 after a long run? If you watch 76 and 66, once Warren breaks away, they point on each other, and they go to do some sort of somersault dance celebration right here. Oh, we're going to have to find that. by that. He's fucking ass out of the ticket. Yeah, incredible.
Starting point is 02:28:09 That's a big man doing the roll. I like that. I like we're doing body rolls out there. Go ahead and celebrate, boys. It's not easy to do that. And Zach Frazier running down and meeting the bowl. Love everything about it. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 02:28:21 They knew that it would be number one. They knew what was coming in in. Trenches, thank you, Shepley, Top 5. Buffalo Bill, Chicago Bears, Philadelphia, Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, round out of the top five. And these are five teams that can certainly go and win Super Bowl. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:28:34 Sorry, I had it off. I didn't know if it was going to mess up the... Just don't do it. Sorry. Sorry. Just don't tell them. You're doing too much. Tell them, just do the...
Starting point is 02:28:45 Just do it. Thank you. Just leave it on. Sorry. You just had it on. We don't need you to be doing the extra stuff. Okay, we'll figure out. Look, you got Nick in the back sweat.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Look at this guy. He's had a rough day already. Sorry, Nick. There's enough microphones. Just leave it on. All right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Just earlier. I heard it echo.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Yeah, but then we'd have had a rough. turn peckoff. That has top five offensive lines. AJ, any takeaways about the Pittsburgh Steelers being number one or any of the other teams you saw up there, AJ Hawk? Yeah, I mean, I think the Pittsburgh definitely deserved it. There's a lot of meat on the field there right there. That glass clip you show with
Starting point is 02:29:18 Pittsburgh Steelers, you've got to have a heavy package defensively to try to match all that meat they put out there. Has Mike Tomlin and Artie Smith change anything to make the offensive lines life easier or is this just kind of they've been cooking for this moment? No, they've been cooking and they also went a little bit more smash mouth. They used
Starting point is 02:29:34 Connor Hayward as fullback in a lot of the packages. And then the other thing that I really liked what I saw was the Jono Smith Kenneth Gainwell package that they do. It's pretty cool. Jonah Smith scores on the touchdown last week. This week they run the toss to him. They move Gainwell out. They run the jet motion to Gainwell.
Starting point is 02:29:51 Then they run the flip back to Jonu Smith. So they got a whole package out of that with a tight end in the backfield, Gainwell out wide. Then they're motioning in and like I said, Hayward as the fullback. So they are doing a lot of other stuff. What the fuck are you doing? Aaron talking to Johnny Smith as he's in motion behind him. It feels like they're all on the same page and all bought in.
Starting point is 02:30:09 And you talk about somersaults. They're certainly doing that in Pittsburgh after long-ass runs. Oh, man. Athleticism at an all-time high. Obviously from the big boys. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's go to the other side of the ball. Let's go to the defensive side.
Starting point is 02:30:25 Let's go everything, DB, good, D, bad D, D with Darius J. Butler. Hey, you know. D. Box, we got some good D here. We absolutely do, starting with Derek Stingley, the best cornerback in the national football league. Also, it was of all everything DB last year. And this is actually his first pick six in his NFL career. First touchdown since high school. And then also the only cornerback right now, three seasons in a row with fourth plus interception.
Starting point is 02:30:51 This was his fourth. Terrible throw, terrible decision by Gino Smith for sure. But great instinct and awareness by Derek Stingley coming off the receiver. making the pick, getting up off the ground, and taking it back to the paint. How old are you, B.A.? 73. How old is Pete Carroll? 74, I believe.
Starting point is 02:31:09 Okay, so he gets a head coaching job. Obviously, it's for a limited amount of time because he's 74 years old. But he is assigned with the task of making this new era of the Raiders go. It is not gone well. Obviously, nothing really great to point out other than Max Crosby, and they kept it close against Houston Texans late in the season. Brock Bowers. What are your thoughts on the Raiders as a whole? and Pete Carroll as a 74-year-old head coach?
Starting point is 02:31:34 Well, Pete, mentally is 55. He's got all that energy. His age has nothing to do with how he's coaching because he is a live-wire practice every day, he's tackling guys, and that's just him. I think the staff he put together last year, they did it so quickly. I think he's looking to rearrange a whole lot of guys on that staff.
Starting point is 02:31:57 So we think Pete going to be back with the Raiders next year? I think so. I don't see the Raiders firing him in one year. Wow, that'd be fascinating if Pete Carroll gets the leeway because he's Pete Carroll to go another year and then just have to... It's disgusted by it. He wants him gone right now.
Starting point is 02:32:16 What happened? He is not going to hear that shit. He is disgusted by it. Big Raiders, man. He's sick of this old line as well. I get all that if Liam Cohen didn't throw his entire staff together about a month.
Starting point is 02:32:30 month after everybody was hired in Jacksonville. And like, the other thing is, too, if Pete Carroll, yeah, he might act like he's 55, but they fucking suck. Watching the Raiders is a nightmare. Like, even when they pop up, because they're a 425 game this week, so there's only four games,
Starting point is 02:32:46 so you're going to watch them. The Texans are playing too. Everything they do is miserable. And granted, they scored 21 points, but it felt like kind of the Well, Gentie, good. I forgot about Gentie. Yeah, I was saying that, but it felt like the Oregon in JMU game. And I shouldn't feel
Starting point is 02:33:02 that way watching an NFL game at any point. Well, Pete Carroll might get another year, maybe reload with a whole new staff and restart at 74. But it does feel like they have some pieces over there. You know, you get a quarterback, get some offensive linemen, you're able to go ahead and maybe win some games. But until then, we've got to
Starting point is 02:33:18 watch you guys be ass. And Max Crosby, Brock Bowers, Ashton Genty, we appreciate you guys holding it down. Would be cool whenever 50 fucking million people are watching these games you guys are playing, but it doesn't seem like you're anywhere near that right now, maybe next year. Yeah, and please don't give Pete Carroll
Starting point is 02:33:33 another year. Because they're probably, they might get the first pick, you know, they're going to draft the quarterback. Hey, Pete, give it another go. Okay, so this quarterback's going to learn that offense. All those guys are going to get chicaned and then just what, I mean, we've seen, like we, this guy doesn't need, Mendoza doesn't
Starting point is 02:33:49 need, I mean, he could do it. He's certainly a guy who could do it. He doesn't need to be learning two offenses in two years. Fernando's the guy? Yeah, I think so, too. He's definitely Brady's guy. six five i mean i go back i saw it about a hundred times this weekend against iowa they're down at kinnick he gets hit so hard right in the fucking mouth and just delivers the biggest seed that goes for an 80 yard
Starting point is 02:34:12 touchdown it's just like and in ohio state yeah exactly yeah right it's all the first play of the game very intelligent from when he's been on the show with us like seems like he's prototyped i think so i can do very well in the interviews yeah he's gonna win it over is he going to go to a place that's going to fucking ruin them? I hope not. He's going to go to a shitty team, that's for sure. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 02:34:36 The first pick is always a shitty team. Well, unless there's some teams that have a lot of picks that maybe aren't so ass. They might be trading up, yeah. Yeah, there might be some action. Flip it quick. Hey, Pittsburgh Steelers got a lot of assets
Starting point is 02:34:47 next draft tone. Yeah, I don't know if they have enough to move up to get Mendoza, though, unfortunately. In Pittsburgh, the draft. You know, the Jets have a bunch of pieces, right? The Jets have a shit ton of pieces. So even if they don't have the number one pick, everybody's like, well, they're certainly going to be in the ballpark for it.
Starting point is 02:35:05 It feels like next year's draft is going to have a lot of action. A lot of action because there's a lot of people that have accrued a lot of pieces. And that's why Giants Raiders this weekend is such a massive game. Because like, hey, let's say the Raiders do win. All of a sudden now the Giants who are, by all accounts, not a quarterback needy team, they will be for sale. And the highest bidder who has the most assets would be the Jets at that four seat. That's really cool that the Colts just gave ours to the Jets there at the 18th and next years as well.
Starting point is 02:35:33 18th. Have we ever had a team take a quarterback in the first round back to back of years? Yes, Josh Rosen and Kyler. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, sure was. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 02:35:43 I know B.A. had the Giants going to the playoffs next year, but I don't know how sold I am with Jackson Dard. What? I don't know. What do you mean, dude? He was 7 of 13 for 33 yards. My, dude. That's a giant. fan back there. That was crazy
Starting point is 02:35:59 stuff. No, I'm just saying, yeah, it was a crazy crazy game. He had only thrown it six times in the first three quarters. So if we aren't going to let him play, why play him? If we're just tagging, throw James out there. What's the point of having him back there if you're not going to let him throw or run? He needs reps. He needs
Starting point is 02:36:15 to get experience. That's the purpose of this rookie season. And he's got to drop back against Flores' defense. He's going to say it all? Who's calling plays right? Who's calling plays right now? I genuinely got in my head of no idea. Fun game. It is Kafka. It is Kafka. His name's up for things.
Starting point is 02:36:30 Fun game. Who's the interim head coach of the Tennessee Titans? He just brought his entire family to... Meet Andy Reed. McCoy. There it is. Did you know that before he brought his family to go meet Andy Reed? We'll never know.
Starting point is 02:36:43 I literally... A Sunday morning, I guess it would have been in the middle of the game. As I see the Titans take the lead on the Chiefs, I think to myself, I couldn't even tell you who the fucking interim head... I actually thought that to myself. I'm like, we talk. talk about it every day and I don't think right now I could tell you who's the acting head coach of the Tennessee Titans and they're beating the chiefs and then immediately afterwards turns out it's coach Mike McCoy here's his entire family trying to he's saying the same damn thing
Starting point is 02:37:10 Andy these are my whole fucking family here I can't believe this it's like the Titans being able to get a win that just shows you the NFL you know like we didn't even really know who and Mike McCoy won't let you know I apologize for that but you guys have just been out of the conversation completely so long so long and it's not fun Ken Ward's an exciting player we assume he's going to be good, but they're a restart operation down there. It's like, what are they going to do? That's not only that gives you hope, though. Like, same as Will Anderson saying,
Starting point is 02:37:35 Ginty's a guy like Jeffrey Simmons saying, like, I want to stay here because Cam Ward's O'Law. Damn, Jeffrey Simmons has been so good there for so long. So good. Yeah. But, I mean, even with Cam and what's going on there, Drake May, shitty rookie year, turn around. Caleb Williams, not a terrible rookie year,
Starting point is 02:37:51 but team-wise, turn around. Who's the other one? A third one this year. second year quarterback new head coach it'll come to me but so sometimes shitty first year new regime maybe comes in make some good hires on the offensive or defensive side of the ball if it's an offensive head coach like ben jonson hired dennis allen and the flip side with rabble hiring uh josh mcdaniel price young's in his second year with canales Trevor would be the one that's Trevor boom so not not as obviously further on his career but had a shitty what three four years
Starting point is 02:38:24 and then Liam comes over. You hire Campanelli on the defense side. They're playing much better. Trevor Lawrence looked like a completely new quarterback. The quarterback we all thought he would be, so future could still be potentially bright in Tennessee. Yeah, and Bo Nick's second year with Sean Payton. I think he looked good towards the end of the first year as well,
Starting point is 02:38:40 so I don't think anybody's saying complete ass of a season. I saw Cam Ward make some throws with these eyes against Colts. It's like certainly has a talent. Will they ever be able to figure it out? Let's go to some more good D and everything, D.B. Absolutely. A team that has been able to figure it out, of flying under the radar, 11 and 4 now
Starting point is 02:38:56 to Los Angeles, Chargers. You got Derwin James, another all-everything DB guy. Now at this point, 3417 backup quarterbacks in the game. It's kind of garbage time. You think your guy, I think Cowboys took a bunch of their starters out. Chargers still have their starters in. This is why this guy
Starting point is 02:39:12 is who he is. Still playing, like this a two-minute drive with the game on the line, hustling his ass off. Great hustle, great punch out. Give me that shit. Now the game is really over. Packed this shit up. Great job hustling. Great job just being that guy who, you mentioned Max Crosby early, even though he's on the shitty team,
Starting point is 02:39:28 this guy, every down, he's going to set the tempo and set the standard for that defense and that team as a whole. That's a great peanut punch, B.A. The thing, peanut started a revolution. I mean, everybody's doing it now, and it's something special. I mean, some people would argue
Starting point is 02:39:43 that started with Chuck Pagano. No. Don't put Chuck Pagano in that spot. Peanut Pagano? Pagano punch? Well, see, the NFL put Chuck Pagano a bad spot. Hey, listen, we know you're all trying to, and do the punch out. Let's make sure we follow
Starting point is 02:39:56 the rules. Chuck Pagong, you make a video for these people? Hey, listen, when you're doing the punch, okay, we all want to do it Bob, we even do it, bang, but this is the best technique that you league, boom. Then that gets sent out to all the NFL teams. All you need is one player to be there. This guy thinks he's fucking peanut,
Starting point is 02:40:11 and then boom. The Pagano punch, all of a sudden, Chuck loves ball, loves peanut, loves everything about that, is getting murdered for thinking that he created the punch out. I never said, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, boy. No, no. Nothing by respect for Pina.
Starting point is 02:40:29 Jeez, I'm just trying to tell the rules. But you're talking about an evolution or revolution. It has certainly become a great way to cause a turnover. And guys work it. Derwin definitely works it. Because having precision punching is certainly a benefit in this particular fast. Because if you miss, you're talking about maybe breaking your knuckles. You get an elbow or something like that.
Starting point is 02:40:47 I mean, it's very dangerous. It could be very dangerous, but it's also lethal if you can connect. And it's game changing. You know, defenses at this point, I mean, yards are one thing, but who cares about giving a bunch of yards? If you can keep guys out of the end zone and create turnovers, giving your offenses. Now, this game was over, but giving your offenses extra possessions and a lot of times in favorable positions. Like, this is an offense now.
Starting point is 02:41:07 They're set up on the plus side of the 50 based on what their defense did. And yeah, it's definitely a revolution with this peanut punch. We see it every game on every level of football now. We saw it in the UM game. We saw it last night. We had a kick return early in the game. Was it Abdullah that came across the other field in the opposite side? boom punch that thing out every defense you saw it when we were playing every defense going to be
Starting point is 02:41:28 punching running back jogging back to the huddle and practice in training camp you're going to be punching it out so you practice it you rep it and always pick the football up on the ground and also bazooka jo you're in an actual football game dick around his helmet yeah yeah you're in an actual football here's a chance your helmet's not going to be perfect you got derwin james fucking running around on a field let's make sure we're not worried about the damn helmet let's know britt derwin james is somewhere near me okay Zooka Joe. I mean, we love Joe Milton. We're big fans
Starting point is 02:41:58 of what he can do. He can do a standing backflip. I think he could throw the ball 80 yards. He obviously has an incredible talent, everything like that. But I can't be watching you fix your fucking helmet in the middle of an actual football game. Okay, it looks like you think it's spring practice. Joe. And also tighten that thing up. Buckle up, yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:14 Tighten that thing up. And you know what, maybe he needs a guardian if his fucking helmet's able come off at ease. You're right. You're right. Patriots also won a game on the peanut punch. You know, I got a little problem. All the chick of shit guys that punch and don't a tackle. If you're punching and making a tackle, that's peanut.
Starting point is 02:42:30 This punch, there he goes for a touchdown. I try to punch it out, coach. Make the fucking tackle. We need both. We need both is what you're saying. I understand. It used to be, if you were like the second or third guy, AJ would probably speak to it. Hey, the first guy getting there, wrap him up, second, third
Starting point is 02:42:46 guy, you come in to punch. Now, you can be one-on-one open field. And it's guys, to your point, just going straight punch. And as a defender, going for that, ball, those tacklers, I mean, those backs, those tight ends, like, they're just going. So it's going to make the tackle easier nine times out of ten when you're going for, because Rayleigh's the guy just going to joke. You see the most scary runner probably ever in history, Derek Henry, you go for that ball.
Starting point is 02:43:09 I don't care how big and strong you are. That's the program right there. So you tackle that football in a good spot. AJ, were you a big punch-outer? I wish I was more. I wish I emphasized it more because it's like taken off over the last 10, 12 years, I guess, to where first guy in is going, you got to secure the tackle, of course, but yeah, they're giving a good hard punch.
Starting point is 02:43:28 Like, it was more emphasized when I was playing as, like, second guy in, third guy in, always you guys come in there and punch and rip at that ball. But it has changed the game. It truly has. I think runners, too, like, it slows them down as well. On the perimeter outside, they know if you have any awareness, if you've ever had a ball punched out, it will definitely slow you down in traffic. Yeah, a little PTSD scary situation watching that thing.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Oh, my God. That's everybody's livelihoods, just kind of. of bouncing out of my hand i was entrusted with this ball and it is gone and you know i like the conversation about i turned into a business decision you just play pickup basketball boys park and if there was bigger much more athletic guy that was older than me playing i'm doing the reach around punch trying to get him when he's true oh yeah not actually playing defense start to fast break it down the other way yeah they're telling everybody like i try i thought i was going to get it out every once in a while you will make connection there
Starting point is 02:44:21 oh you're a hero yeah the best yeah yeah Let's go back the other way. So against Philadelphia, in Philadelphia, we had kickoff, guy, big return, he runs, I end up in position trail. I try to do the basketball punchout.
Starting point is 02:44:36 I don't think I got contact, ball came out. Wow. Ball came out, goes out of bounds. Okay, so obviously nobody gets it, but I remember thinking to myself, Boy Spark. I did it.
Starting point is 02:44:46 I just fucking got this guy. Could you imagine? I don't think, it was like when I killed that buck and I didn't shoot, it had a heart attack, there was no entry word. It's like that punch shot, I think, was similar.
Starting point is 02:44:55 Like, I don't think I've never, I've never felt the ball. The idea of it, yeah, the idea of it just knocked it out. Yeah, in my brain, I'm like, this is what I'm trying to do. And then for some reason, the ball boughs out, but I do remember that. And nobody complimented me, man. It was unbelievable. I was so bummed out. I'm like, I got the fucking ball.
Starting point is 02:45:10 Still a cause fumble, though. Yeah, went out of bounds. The guy, they get the ball at the 50, obviously, if I'm making the play. So that's not good. But if I was on defense and there's fucking Derek Henry around me? Well, it was a problem. You know, what I was. Let me get a backpack, a shit out of Derek Henry there.
Starting point is 02:45:26 Yeah, right, his knees. I don't like watching him fumble. I tweeted this the other day. It feels weird. Feels weird watching Derek Henry fumble. It's not supposed to happen. Like, it's not supposed to, it's Derek Henry. He's a superhero.
Starting point is 02:45:39 Like, that is actually what it is. So every time you see, like, a superhero, like, crack, it's like, I don't like. That's not my childhood. Like, that's literally what I think every time I see it come out. His fumble the other night, he had it high and tight. Everything you teach a ball carrier, it's high and tight. first guy comes in second guy catches the ball right boom
Starting point is 02:45:56 and it goes demoralizing they said Derek Henry's shaking his head on the bench the whole time it's like I don't want to see Derek Henry shaking his head this guy's a fucking superhero he did everything you're supposed he had a nice high and tight and outside of him not everything yeah over the last like year and a half too
Starting point is 02:46:12 it's went from like holy shitty he fumbled like oh man Derek Henry fumbled again in the fourth quarter like that's kind of like where it's going because it's happened multiple times now you're all right Derek we still remember turbo man on the next year Derek I still remember turbo man
Starting point is 02:46:27 any more good thing or we're getting bad day he was nobody but wanted to believe long time ago I'm sorry you did I got it right he did
Starting point is 02:46:36 I think it was the only one I got right New school dude that's right but yeah we got speaking of new school dudes Liam Cohen got his defense and this team rolling Jacksonville Jaguar
Starting point is 02:46:46 you talk about a full circle moment we saw Jerry Jones on the sideline with the unbelievable hurdle we know what happened with Sey Kuan last year, and this was shortly after, kind of a, he played it like a two-man in some type of zone, I would assume, like a match
Starting point is 02:46:58 back side, so you play it underneath, you got the safety over the top. And then Bo Nix, I don't know why he made this throw to Pat Bryant, maybe expect the big receiver to go up and be physical, but great job by Jerry and Jones going up finishing his play, being in position, and like, oh shit, he's actually throwing his ball, going up
Starting point is 02:47:14 snagging that thing, couldn't he? He's the one that jumped over, buddy? And also got jumped over? Yes. Yeah. Jerry and Jones putting together one of the greatest highlights in the history of the NFL. Oh, yeah. can keep getting picks and keep making big time plays. I mean, they're going to talk about Hall of Fame stuff. Like, look what this guy's been a part of. Look at these moments.
Starting point is 02:47:29 That sideline leap, AJ. I mean, we've seen people blow out their knees. Instead, he's jumping over dudes and then getting a pick later. What a day for him up there a mile high. Yeah, awesome. If you notice, it's fourth and two on that, too. So he widens the receiver, and that bam, gets his eyes turned around because he knows that ball is probably coming out.
Starting point is 02:47:44 But, yeah, not many people can just standing in the moment, just jump over another professional athlete, you know, screaming at him 100 miles an hour. Yeah, and it wasn't like you. I mean, that's four and a half, five feet there. I think you've got to clear balls, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 02:47:58 You're going to be just from a standstill. That's absurd. Yeah, Jerry and Jones is doing it. The Paison running the defense for Jacksonville. Campanelli. Trevor Lawrence is obviously playing his best ball. Oh, yeah. Are the Jags real?
Starting point is 02:48:11 Yes, indeed. You like them? I've never seen the look on Trevor Lawrence's face. He's got it now. Liam has done a great, great job with that offense and defensively, They're playing balls out. That's why these matchups, like, are so fascinating.
Starting point is 02:48:27 Like, if it's Jags, Bills, how can you pick either side? It's... Well, and Scott Josh Allen is what you immediately say. Exactly. But then it's like, well, have you watched Trevor, though? They got 14 touchdowns, zero turnovers over the last four games. It's like he's rushing and throwing all over the place. Ball's in a good spot.
Starting point is 02:48:43 One last good D, I do believe. Absolutely. Ransom. Talk about a full-circle moment. This is a big-time game-silling interception. And if you remember last week against... against the Saints in a huge game, huge moment. He gets the penalty on the quarterback and makes the field goal much shorter.
Starting point is 02:48:59 And now it's the flip side of it. Make a big time play against Baker, Mayfield, and Mike Evans. Mike Evans, Baker on the wrong page, scramble drill. Evans goes right, Lanham goes left, and makes a big time interception. Great job for the young player. Yeah, so Baker and Mike Evans just zigzag situation, B.A? Yeah, I mean, Mike, I think Mike's expecting Baker to roll back right,
Starting point is 02:49:20 so he's going to retrace. and go back to the right. Baker, I think Baker loses sight right here when he ducks and game over. Now the Panthers run the NFC South. Bruce is bummed out. The Panthers run the NFC South down, B.A. Yes, they are. But they've got to play again.
Starting point is 02:49:38 And the Panthers got to play the Seahawks. We've got to beat the Dolphins. What is that? What are you saying? I think it'll be tied when we go into week 18. Yeah, I don't even think it matters. I don't think either way. It's week 18
Starting point is 02:49:53 Like next week It's kind of just like Hey Steelers Yeah Week 18's for the division For tomorrow Where's it at
Starting point is 02:50:00 Where's the game of it? It is at Tampa Down there In that pirate ship Canals goes home You guys still doing the pirate ship He only lived there Six months
Starting point is 02:50:10 Bro, hey home Good house though I see You guys had a good time Downer Is the pirate ship Still down there Shitting off cannons
Starting point is 02:50:17 It is awesome Yeah I had my grandson I had my grandson I had my grandson's on It a couple weeks ago How is How is Tampa Bay
Starting point is 02:50:22 talking about there's a great on on amazon prime right now 50 years of the bucks raise the flags it's a great documentary going back to those shitty years i forgot about uh when we did the quiz and uh all the way to drug doug williams then cover house not one to pay doug williams two hundred thousand dollars the doug left and then there was a doug william's curse for all those years oh no it's uh it's a great documentary trend cooper did a hell of a job. It's on Amazon Prime. What's it called? Raise the flags. 50 years of South. Bucks football. Ten, ten episodes.
Starting point is 02:50:58 All right. Can't wait to watch. You're a part of it? The last eight, nine, ten maybe? Yeah. Ten episodes. You're a part of the last eight, nine, ten? Yeah, I think so. Okay. So you're part of the whole season? Well, you went through John McKay and all the Tony Dungeon all the way up to me and... Oh, you're saying episodes, eight, nine, ten. Not eight, nine or ten episodes. Got it. Okay, that was a miscommunication on our side.
Starting point is 02:51:21 We got to get on the same page. on me, not on you. So you're in episode 8, 9, and 10 whenever we're raising the flags. Good for you, B.A. I thought that was an ode to All-Stat. I was like, wow, good for you. Yeah, I love that All-Stat's good being there, too. I apologize. We've got some bad deal. Yeah, we've got a couple players. Yes, who's back?
Starting point is 02:51:36 Bad Dee, man. I hate to see it. It's been historically bad this year. I think top five in all the wrong categories for Flucis defense. Now, you got lag coming over in motion. You got cover, too. Running back to the very beginning, Foxy, so starts with a pre-snap, this guy, showing single hive, and then rotating.
Starting point is 02:51:52 post snap to cover too. Now this deep safety is going to be in the bind. The left deep safety down here near the hatch is going to be in a bond because he has number two streaming right at him vertical and then he got lad who's outside number one. And Trayvon Diggs, he's a flat defender kind of carrying that vertical.
Starting point is 02:52:08 So it looks like he's just getting beat around by, really underneath defender. He's kind of in the position. He should be in but just a great play design, great execution by the Chargers and just bad positioning by the Cowboys with that late disguise. Their ass. I don't want like it.
Starting point is 02:52:23 He can't get a thousand cowboys once again disappoints season. Yeah. Is Trevon Diggs maybe still concussed from a mountain that TV on his own? Is that why he missed a bunch of times? That's what he said. That's what he said. I'll tell you, though, sometimes when you're trying to put it on the thing, it's hard to get it up. I agree.
Starting point is 02:52:41 He's going to get the latch on the fucking ceiling. Have you mounted your TV like that? On a ceiling? It looked like he needed to mount his TV straight into like the support beams of his house. I don't know if it was like a 55,000 pound TV or what, but it was an odd place to mount it. So I could see if that thing hit him in the head while you would miss
Starting point is 02:52:58 four or five weeks. Significant time. Especially if it kept you with the edge. Exactly. Because then it's a little bit of a sting. Was he concussed by the TV? Yeah. That was a report, yeah. And we're bowling for him and the TV. I guess we don't know what happened to the TV. The TV looked very expensive, so. TV looked okay. Some of you want to know, says Jane Slater,
Starting point is 02:53:15 how Trevon Diggs got concussed. It was never that crazy, but the lack of answers made it sound like it was. It certainly was crazy. says a TV he was trying to install from the ceiling with the pole mount fell on his head. So I was trying to be a handyman. He didn't think it was a big deal and didn't need to be addressed but speculation on the internet won't wait too far.
Starting point is 02:53:31 He had some good plays today but still adjusting the game speed on if he thought this may be his last game at AT&T. Yeah, he says he wants to be here but said they will discuss his future at the end of his season. On the McConkey TD cover two, cover two. I'm supposed to have a little bit of help here. Okay, have a little bit of respect. Also on that note, Jane,
Starting point is 02:53:47 it is pretty crazy that a TV is knocking out a starting corner for the Dallas Cowboys, you know. I appreciate him saying I have to do this myself, though. I don't want to fucking pay somebody a couple hundred bucks. They're going to rob me to do this. This is his easy job. Do you appreciate that?
Starting point is 02:53:59 I do. I like him looking in the mirror and saying, he can fucking put this thing up. We don't need to waste any money, pay somebody. And he goes and does it. Now, on that note, was that thing ever going to be flat? Never. No.
Starting point is 02:54:09 Was that thing ever going to be properly in there? Absolutely not. Did he look for the stud before a, they do any of that? We don't know. Okay, he was trying to be a handy man. You probably watch some YouTube. What they don't show you in YouTube is that fucking
Starting point is 02:54:20 gravity works. Gravity is still doing his thing. There it is. Yeah, it's, I appreciate him trying to be a handyman. Oh. And, uh, geez. Yeah, I mean, it's what happens. I mean, we're not talking just your run of the mill, 55 inch TV, but he certainly could put, I mean, this thing is fucking 200 inches. What is he thinking
Starting point is 02:54:38 he was going to do on his own? Shout out bad Santa, yeah. Yeah, not a bad movie. Obviously, need to see it, especially this time of year on the biggest screen you can get, but first boy. People always say like, hey, when you you get rich, you get lazy, you get weak, and then people take advantage of you, and Trivon Diggis is like,
Starting point is 02:54:54 I can fucking put this up, look, a couple of these, couple of those, just need to make sure you find a stunt up, Berger. I think that's probably the issue. That thing might have been on somewhere else, and how's it look?
Starting point is 02:55:09 Yeah, yeah. It's fucking geek squad in there. Get on thumbtack. I mean, come on, what are you doing? Yeah, and listen, Trevon, you can act like you're a part of you can look at them while they're doing it. Or like, move it to a little bit.
Starting point is 02:55:20 Okay, that's good. That's good. It's a stod finder. Yeah. Be the foreman. Yeah. And then even download the laser balance on your phone so you can act like you're actually doing something.
Starting point is 02:55:32 That looks like it's a little bit off, don't you think? Certainly do that. You've earned that, dude. Way to go. With all your football abilities, you have earned the right to watch another motherfucker hang your TV. That is way too big. So big.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Congratulations, man. We're proud of you for that. Buddy's back out there. Now, people are saying, is he actually out there? Is he still in Bad Santa? We don't, we're not 100% sure. We have to see him play great football. And it looks like we're about to see some more bad football.
Starting point is 02:55:59 Depends on all you look at it. Depends on who you're a fan of. This is some great footballs. Some great offense here. Yeah. Overtime here, 16-6 football game. Halfley, I didn't know Halfley's team was going to show up on that. It is fucking fault.
Starting point is 02:56:12 I didn't know Halfley was showing up on bad feet. It's fucking 16 to 3 with five minutes left in the goddamn game. The Packers defense was phenomenal. all night long. Now, I mean, he's good offense. Ben Johnson, he's a bell ball for a reason. Is this everything, DB, good, deep, bad deal? What is this right here?
Starting point is 02:56:27 It's his bad day. His pick on the Packers because they lost the heartbreakers. This is first in 10 in the alumni section. And I love this from Ben Johnson and Caleb. Just going for the absolute juggler, just like BA did, a Merry Quizmas earlier in the game. But this is late in the game. Last play, DJ Moore all the way across the field.
Starting point is 02:56:44 Unbelievable catch. I mean, pretty damn good coverage. We had Patrick Sertan on here last week. who was quarter's coverage, outside leverage. I believe this is, if you run it back, I believe this is quarter's coverage, too. The safety is just very aggressive in the run game, 13 personnel. Everything looks like a run.
Starting point is 02:57:00 Good play action from Caleb Williams, aka Ice Man, and then you step up in the pocket and make an unbelievable throw. And this type of, you know, weather, weather wasn't terrible, but you're Chicago in December. It's a big time throw, damn it's 60 yards in the air. And DJ Moore, unbelievable concentration. Great catch with Nixon all over.
Starting point is 02:57:20 How would you describe Caleb Williams' his arm? Elite. Okay, elite. I don't know if you want to say a big old hose. Yeah. I'll say big arm. Yeah, it's a big host. I'll say a big arm for sure.
Starting point is 02:57:32 I would say what do they call a big arm? She's a big fat hose. I definitely would not say that. I would say generational arm talent. Generational hose. Look out. Talent. Move over, Sins.
Starting point is 02:57:46 It wants to get a great plate cough. You're ready back to the beginning. against quarters coverage. You got both safeties kind of involved in the run game, so they're tight. And even with when Nixon had the interception, last time these teams, kind of shit always comes back full circle, quarterback. Obviously
Starting point is 02:58:02 he's on the opposite side of it now. They kind of blew that coverage, and Keishan just kind of fell into the right place and made a great play. This was a great job by him, but sometimes it just happens like that. Nixon's been tough for him, but it's been great for the ice man and DJ more over there in Chicago. It's crazy. The Packers are now on
Starting point is 02:58:17 Bad Dee. What does the future look like? Who knows? Couple injuries, a couple lost games, everything's going sideways. Hey, that's life in sports, interests or shame. Well said, well said. I hadn't thought of that yet, but you're right. It is, life. That is what it's like. Coach Bea, we appreciate you, brother.
Starting point is 02:58:33 Thank you. Thank you. Well, good job, boy. Completely defeated and Mary Quismithman. I gave it my own. He did it second place. That's good call, AJ. That's a very positive way to look at.
Starting point is 02:58:46 First place, so obviously, Coach Bea. Yeah, that made a boy. Not your NFL vet, Darysh, J. Butler, good work. Merry Christmas, everybody. Safe travels to the boys. I believe we're back tomorrow, right? Yeah, I thought so. I was hoping everybody thought that.
Starting point is 02:59:01 Yep. Because in my head, we were definitely doing a show tomorrow, but I didn't know what I had told you guys weeks ago, whether or not we were doing a show or not. So I didn't know there in the moment. In my head, we got a show tomorrow. And then if you guys would have said, I'd be like, but instead,
Starting point is 02:59:16 you're going to run bowl games or something, because that is the time of year we're in. Yes. Like New Year's Eve, for instance, obviously there's a bunch of games, so we will not be live. We will be traveling, I do believe, at that exact time, because I think Iowa is actually playing on New Year's Eve at noon. Correct. New Year's Day is Rose Bowl Day, College Game Day Day. We'll be there for a field pass for Indiana and Alabama.
Starting point is 02:59:39 So, you know, Christmas will be off. I believe Boxing Day, we'll be off as well because there's a lot of things on TV, so hope everybody enjoys their lives. But tomorrow we'll be back with Christmas Eve. couple we'll say spirited segments tomorrow you know about who is San's favorite helper this year who's on an audio list
Starting point is 02:59:59 who's on an ice list in the sports world you know we got to break that all down as we celebrate Jesus Christ being born over in Nazareth in a barn that's right well said to a lady Mary and Big Joe
Starting point is 03:00:14 Big Joe Be a friend tell a friend something nice if I change her life we're in this thing together we don't have to go to church now wednesday night i heard's a big one it is mid night mass is awesome actually okay so that'll be wednesday night right yes walking in a colts game e uh jesus christ e for the colts oh okay you know you know he ball head that for you eric simpson eric eric sims good guy okay eric sims is a great man great guy eric simpson has had to sit through a lot of me asking a lot of questions okay
Starting point is 03:00:46 and he has sat in the pocket and i'd like let him know i appreciate the hell out of him He was going to be the guy that was actually going to do me and Sam's wedding. End up being Bob Cavalien, obviously, from Bob and Tom show. So I said, but, like, great relationship with E. He also threw me a lot. Last night, I saw him. And I'm like, hey, pretty big time of year, E, right? Pretty because he's a pastor or whatever.
Starting point is 03:01:04 He goes, Wednesday night, you should come by. And I actually was like, you know what I might actually start. Did you give you the paper, the notes from chapel? Usually when I see him, he gives me to run down chapel. He knows I'm not a notes guy. I want to hear it. I want to hear the delivery. You know, because he'll do a man of the cloth, I believe, because Jesus Christ washed people's feet.
Starting point is 03:01:24 I believe that was one of the storylines. Damn right. I like to hear the way these stories that have been told a lot of times are delivered by the preacher or the pastor. I think that's what separates, obviously, who is supposed to be doing it. He's not supposed to be doing it. He's not supposed to be doing it. I told him, that's a whole shit, dude, big one coming out. This is it.
Starting point is 03:01:42 This is the Super Bowl, right? I was like, well, actually, Easter. Yeah, yeah, we got a whole thing. I was like, oh, I just heard about Yom Kippur. I just heard about it. I thought Hanukkah was the one. I just heard about it all. So I hope everybody's happy. But Merry Christmas, and we appreciate you all for allowing us to do this for a living. We're back tomorrow. B.A., anything before we get out of here? Great show, better with next week.
Starting point is 03:02:02 Hell yeah. How about you, AQ? Merry Christmas, too all. And to all? A good night. Okay, it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon, so obviously we hope you have a great rest of your afternoon as well and later evening. Debutt, anything before we go? Enjoy your Kwanza. Happy Kwanza. Hell yeah. That's a celebration, I believe. big time fruits i believe it's a lot of fruits out there i actually ended up in a kwanza
Starting point is 03:02:22 celebration one time i didn't know i was going to be there we're having a blast though they i was trying to get some fruit they were having a celebration we're in there happy quonson when is it starts the day after christmas first day is unity it's about unity boxing day we don't really like boxing day do we no phenomenal day happy boxing day to canadian's and the english all right boxing day everybody had boxing and they go. Team on me. Team on three.
Starting point is 03:02:50 Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Quismus. Merry Christmas. Happy Quas. What this thing together? Happy on it. No. Good celebration.
Starting point is 03:03:02 Did you let it like animals? I did. Got a great picture on my wife's Instagram. Did you play with the dreidel? Played with the dreidel. We got 33 minoras in our house. Do they all come down for Christmas? You see.
Starting point is 03:03:12 Jesus is time now. Is that what you doing? Is that what you do in a house? Split ass, obviously. Put me in a bad spot. Team on me, team on three. God bless everybody. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.

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