The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1478 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 17 Recap, Adam Schefter, JJ Watt, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 17 of the NFL season as more teams punched tickets, seeding is still up in the air, and we look ahead to the implications of week 18 with teams still jostling for the #1 seed and the winners of the NFC South and AFC North still in the balance, and they go around the internet for some overreactions. Joining the progrum to chat about some of the bigger injuries that happened over the weekend, what he’s hearing about Lamar Jackson’s status, Maxx Crosby’s future with the Raiders, the 49ers pursuit of the #1 seed, and which coaches might be on the hot seat is Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, 3x DPOY, countless Pro Bowls/All-Pro’s, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt joins the show to recap week 17, look ahead to week 18, discuss the act of giving Christmas presents to teammates (specifically QB’s), and decide if any of the Roughing the Passer’s called last week were actually penalties. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome. On this massive overreaction Monday, December 29, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It's the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it, and we're here. You know, we're going into the last week of the NFL season. 18 weeks, just like that. Bang, week 17 just wrapped up.

And congratulations the three new teams who locked up their division. Congratulations to the Denver. Broncos. First time in a decade. It's a long time. Congrats to the New England Patriots. Wow, guess who's back on top? And congratulations of that incredibly strong NFC North, the Midway Monsters, the Chicago Bears. Obviously, the Eagles won their division last weekend, so they will not be added to the just winning their division teams. But certainly four of the divisions have been earned in this weekend. There is a shit ton of football. that means so much.

Congratulations to the NFL schedule makers feels like you've got to write here the last couple weeks of the season. And as we head in the Super Wildcar weekend, then the divisional round, then the play, then it's super, we're here. We get to enjoy every single moment.

College football playoffs down to its final 18. Playoffs are literally just next weekend for the NFL. Whenever you talk about, wow, we made it. We did make it to the most important time of football, but we got to remember it is finite. We do not have a lot of time left. So every moment we get a chance to talk about live ball, actual ball, drama around ball, overreaction to ball.

While it's happening, we must enjoy the hell out of it. Now, was there a 90 mile an hour winds here in Indianapolis last night? And I believe across the entire Midwest, certainly. Is it cold as hell? Absolutely. But that's what comes with this time of year. Whatever the games mean the most, the weather's normally going to be shite in half the country. But when that shiteness comes alive, it's whenever we find out who's real, who's not,

who's contenders, who's pretenders, who's Super Bowl champions, and who's a team that needs to knock it all down and build it back up. Is that the Indian of those goals? Yeah. They're not the only ones. There's a lot of people that are already asking that question. Is there still a week of ball left? Who's going to go and win the Lombardi seemingly could be anybody this year?

And last night was definitely the greatest game we've had all season. Football's thrown its fastball, and we're incredibly lucky we get a chance to chat about it. And oh yeah, the geniuses running the TGL launched their second season. at 3 o'clock yesterday, week 17 Sunday. Do they have any brains over there? I have no idea. The talks at tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmitt. Congrats to you, Kahn, man.

Thank you very much. Could be back on top, babe. One half of the Hammer, Don, Cowboys, AP, Tony is here. Congrats to you, man. Made a big-time Week 18 Sunday Day football game with a loss to the bronze this weekend. Pittsburgh Steelers, good job.

Good job, Tony. You got a chance to win AC North are getting the playoffs. All you got to do is win one game at home against Baltimore Ravens. Congratulations. Prime time. Troil density. Come on now.

You guys lost the Shador Senators in Cleveland Browns. Listen, Shador had a couple of balls and maybe weren't the prettiest, but there were touchdowns. That's right. Yeah, and maybe there was a couple turners, maybe. You know what time is? Bitch. Perfect time.

That's what it is right now. It's perfect timing in Cleveland. Miles Garrett didn't get the sack record, though, against Pittsburgh. Steelers, heard that's all you guys care about. Hey, way to go, Steelers. What an idiotic game plan to try to stop the best player on the defense side of the ball in this league. Yeah, just should have let him get five, six sacks. probably would have won the game ball.

Maybe. Just a calamity of air. You see that balloon ball. What? Which was a genius decision by Shudor because Kyle Dugger had no idea where it was because it was so high and floated for so long. So genius situation.

That's good ball. That's a touchdown throw. Yeah. Fortunately, Herbig, who I love, dropped the pick six. Steelers were three of 15 on third down, 0 for 3 on 4th down. Boss, who never misses, missed a field goal.

And then Aaron thought that MVS was Prime Megatron. because DeKalin punched some blue-haired freak in the mouth. That's Ryan Kennedy. Excuse me. We learned more about Ryan Kennedy, and Ryan Kennedy spoke on Friday about wanting the truth to be told. And we would like to let Ryan Kennedy know we're on hit. We hope the truth does come out. And we could very much understand if he was getting attacked for something

that he certainly didn't do, that he would call a press conference. But boy, D.K. not being on a Pittsburgh Steelers, is very evident and the most important part of the game. And MBS gets targeted three straight times with Denzel Ward covering him. Good idea. Denzel Ward was interviewed after the game and actually said, I didn't expect to get targeted three times in that particular situation, but I was obviously ready for it.

I was obviously ready for it. Bitsberg's dealers say, I was also a passer of fairness? What are we even doing? Cleveland Brown say, who cares? We just won our fourth game. Thank you so much. Miles Garrett does not have the record just yet. It will take into 17th game for him to get the record.

So obviously there'll be an asterisk on the rest of the conversation. But the Pittsburgh Steelers now have Sunday night football against Baltimore Ravens for the AFC North and a playoff berth. Good for football. Sucks for people in Pittsburgh and Baltimore who have been living this entire season as if it was a Kenny Wood Steel coaster, which is what it's all about.

Nine-year NFL vet, Terry Schaubhers here. Very much. Deepots, good to see you. Great weekend of ball, man. A lot of football since Christmas until now. A lot of great football. A lot of tiki-tack calls with a lot of great football last night.

On that note, we will talk about the reps at some point. JJ Watt, who normally joins us on Wednesday, will join us today in the second hour because we will not be live on Wednesday. Wednesday, New Year's Eve. We'll actually be calling the Cotton Bowl from the sideline. Field pass with all of us on New Year's Eve for Ohio State and Miami. We hope you'll spend your New Year's Eve with us.

Okay, we're excited on ESPN 2. I believe Dave Pash and Dusty Dvorchek will be calling on ABC or ESPN. We'll be on ESPN, we'll be on ESPN2 on the sideline. Miami, the team that we just watched beat Texas A&M. Mario Cristobo and I obviously have a double-leg takedown in discussions. But what we saw from their team is a group of dogs. We saw size, we saw physicality, we saw speed, we saw resolve, we saw grit, we saw everything out of the Miami Hurricanes team that makes you believe maybe they could go on

and win a national championship. And oh yeah, who are they playing in the Cotton Bowl down there in Jerry World? Oh, the national champs, actually, the Ohio State Buckeyes, who have obviously been seemingly uncrackable, unflappable, until they played Indiana in the Big Ten championship. A.J. Hawk will be on the call as his beloved Ohio State Buckeyes make their debut in this year's college football playoffs, taking on the Miami Hurricanes who already have one game under their belt. And then on New Year's Day, game day, we'll be live 9 a.m. Eastern time, 6 a.m. local in California. And then we'll be calling the Rose Bowl at 4 p.m. in the afternoon

as a field pass as well as Indiana takes on Alabama. So Wednesday, Thursday, we're going to be doing a lot of ball talk from the sidelines. We're so incredibly lucky that we get to do that. Allegedly Rose Bowl is looking in like torrential downpour. Yep. They're saying like potential real, real, real bad rain. How does that change the game? How does that affect it. We've already seen one game be completely affected by the wind, 40, 35 mile an hour wind gusts, Texas A&M, Miami completely changed that game. How will the rain and how will these teams be able to handle the potential weather coming to the Rose Bowl? We'll be on the sidelines on ESPN2. We hope you come join us. I feel like we're actually not ass at this stage. My voice

last time wouldn't keep up with everything. I listened to it back. I thought it was going to be insufferable because I have to hear me talk more and believe me, everything bad said about me. I've said it about me at least a hundred times more than everybody else. But I I feel like when we call the game, we actually get the storylines. I feel like we're actually in there. And these coaches are giving us a little bit of a heads up beforehand on what their mindset is. It's getting, I don't want to say, easier for us, but it is feeling like we're more comfortable doing it. Absolutely.

I agree with you. It is challenging just from the perspective or the vantage point to we watch the game from. But we've watched a lot of football from that vantage point, being on the sideline, watching the games. That makes it a little challenging. But, yeah, when the games are good and most of them have been, the matchups, the players, these are a lot of players. These are a lot of players that we'll see on the next level as well. So it's cool to kind of see them finish out their college career, playing in the biggest games, the biggest moments.

Travianne Henderson has been great for the Patriots. We saw him in that entire run last year for Ohio State, along with a bunch of other players. So that's the cool part. It's just been a part of these games, man. Lucky. It's so dope. We're so lucky we get to do it. So thankful.

It's very cool that we even get to be in there. But what we get to see, I think, is good for us to know is people that talk about it every single day. Yeah. Because once you see somebody live or a team, team live, you get a chance to really see what and who they are. Like, for instance, a Jacksonal Jaguar's team is really good. Did we know Josh Heinz Allen is actually the biggest person on a football field whenever he's on a football field? He's an actual giant. I did not know that former, the tackler formerly knows Josh Allen, now Josh Heinz Allen, is the largest dude

I've ever seen on a football field. He dwarfs everybody. And it's not like, is he the tallest guy on the field? Kind of. Like, maybe. He might be. I don't know. Is he the widest guy on the, definitely the widest guy on the field. And then he's built just like a normal human. He's so athletic. 6.5-260. Is there a 255 is what they say it is? That might be 6-6-270 at this stage. He was a giant. I mean, I did not know he was like that. And he got Walker on the other side for number one or number two overall. On the other side, he's getting after it. And then he watched Trevor Lawrence. This guy's an actual stallion. Like, whenever he starts running, it's absurd. His throws outrageous. And then there was a couple of times. And

know how often they're doing this, but getting a chance to watch it. You know, at 15 seconds, the play caller to the quarterback microphone cuts off. So Liam Cohen's on the sideline, obviously, offensive guru, genius. He'll flip that thing up whenever seven seconds left and just tell Trevor, just like it's in college, like, hey, we're going right here with this thing, and then bang, first down, gain of 10, gain of nine. And I'm like, well, how are you able to do it in a lot of us? Like, well, I think Liam Cohen has a very loud projecting boys. Or I also think there was a chance. It was a little bit quiet at certain different times, but the Colts had to lead in this game.

Phil Rivers was doing his thing. Jonathan Taylor was trying to do his thing, and the Jacksville Jaguars get a very gritty win. I mean, congratulations to the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're a real team. Coming off the bus, it's like, hey, that's a team that could go win a Super Bowl. Then you watch them play, and it's like, wait a minute.

And then you see the ownership? Okay, Shod Khan's invested a lot in his team a lot of time. Look how smooth. Yep, he's done that before. That was very casual, and we're going to the locker room here. Yep, very casual. Boom, we keep it moving. It's almost like the Jags look like they were built for this moment.

and Liam Cohen becomes the first ever first year head coach to go from four wins to now 12 wins or whatever in a back-to-back years. Congratulations to him because we all saw how it started, right? We checked his coaching resume before him. He had some time of Kentucky, I guess. He was at the Rams. He was quick in Tampa. Does this guy really have the resume to turn around the Jacksonville Jaguars? Then the Duval thing that happens on day one.

Everything that takes place, it's like what a laughing stock the Jacksonville. Jaguars are going to continue to be and then you start watching it through the year it's like oh they got dogs all over the place on that defensive side oh yeah they've had top five picks a lot of times they've got a lot of studs all over the field and Trevor Lawrence is he ever going to be good well let's get him with an offensive guru and a bunch of dude that guy always open he's a punt returner too he's untackable number 11 I don't know what his deal is that guy needs to relax okay he is I mean he's everywhere but this Jacksonville Jaguars team you see him in real life the

respect goes through the roof not that it hasn't because of what they've been able to I forget how many straight wins they've had. It's the longest in the history of the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise, and the Colts on the flip side have lost six straight games or whatever. That's tough sliding for the Colts. Tough sliding for the United States. They were the ones? They're best team of football, yeah. It might be seven games straight.

Yeah, it was six. I think it's going into yesterday. And guess what? Got good news. Got the Texans in Houston next week. That could become eight. That could become eight straight. So it's another year of Indianapolis Colts people trying to figure out.

okay we definitely have excuses because our quarterback got hurt and other people got hurt but is every year going to be warranted excuses for the Colts to stink and miss the playoffs feels like that is what it's becoming maybe and i don't you can't necessarily blame people for the misfortune that happens on a football team especially when it comes to injuries but boy ballard and stiking are it's loud for these two here and i have no idea what the future looks like we don't have any first round picks for the next two years okay we don't have either of those because we traded for Sauce Gardner. Sauce Gardner got hurt again.

Now, I will say, when I saw the number one on the football field, I was incredibly pumped to see Sauce out there, did not know he was playing, saw him on the field, yes. Then play is made, comes up a little bit limpy. It's like, oh, no, what's going to happen? He's out of the game. So we haven't seen a lot of sauce. Obviously, you give up two ones for a guy.

You have a lot of respect. He put out a tweet that basically had to reiterate the fact that he is good at football. I agree, Sauce, you are great at football. But the fact that we don't have a one this year or next year, year and we don't really have a quarterback in the entire situation that we're going to have to do with a potential turnover if that is what happens, boy, the Colts are in a bad spot and the Jags and the Texans seemingly are in a great spot. And that's awesome. But I have faith in the Big Three, okay? And I don't appreciate what people are doing. People are putting pictures

of Shane Steichen and send it to me. All of a sudden, everybody comes to Photoshop editing Wizard and just starts putting my Dokey song over top of things that are happening with the Colts. It's like, I don't like this. And then Jags fan saying, hey, with him, love from Clown Town and it's my song and it's Ballard Duky, Duky, Duky, Duky, Duky. It's like, all right, everybody needs to relax. Congrats to Jacks, they're a great football team

and congrats the ball for having so many incredible storylines and so many things to talk about that although we only have a two, three hour show here, we could talk for 10 hours about all of this, but what we want to do is wittle it down. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for our overreaction Monday.

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Number five, long live the king. King Henry. This guy's special. We saw him in high school. There was highlights of this thing running down a football field, untacklable. Seemingly the same size he is now. He has been.

since he was 16 years old. Then he goes to Alabama. Yep, obviously. Coach Saban said the same thing. We got something that nobody else has. We got a defensive end. Who's a running back here? Then he goes the NFL, goes to the Titans.

What's he do there? Well, for the first couple of years, not great. It's actually not that great. Not running behind his pads. I think he's trying to dance too much. Maybe because the NFL, he didn't think he could be the same exact guy he was in high school and in college.

Then Eddie George has a conversation with him, former Titans legend, and says, hey, we dominate people. Okay, guys like you and me, we're bigger than everybody. We're stronger than everybody. we work our asses off, we just run people over. Derek Henry started running north or south in the NFL,

and guess what started happening? Tennessee Titans started winning ball games. Tennessee Titans down in Nashville, they weren't supposed to win ball games. What is this all about? Well, they rode this man in his shoulders and his legs to multiple different heights that they will, who knows if they'll ever see again.

And the Titans are case studying of itself. All the stars around the NFL right now, seemingly, even the coaches are from the Titans organization within the last five years. They are fully ass and have completely, tearing that place. But that's a conversation for a different day. This dude still doing this in Baltimore at this age, at this stage of his career is outrageous. This past weekend against Packers has his seventh 200-yard game in the history of his career. That's the most 200-yard

games in the history of the NFL. He passed Adrian Peterson and O.J. Simpson. O.J. I believe had five. Adrian Peterson had six. And now Derek Henry has seven. So whenever you think about Adrian, and I haven't seen O.J. Simpson play. I have seen him run. But whatever you think about Adrian Peterson and Derek Henry, you're talking about a style of play where you can see how people or defenses will quit, okay? Because it's just a punishing. We're running with our knees up.

We're running through you. We got a stiff arm if we need it. That will be a cartoonish caricature like stiff arm. And they just pound you. And once they get rolling, especially if it's early, if you see Derek Henry pop a couple long ones in the first quarter, in the second quarter, The natural instinct is, well, by the fourth quarter, when these guys are tired and when these guys have had to eaten Derek Henry a few different times, will they be able to stop them or will they make business decisions? You factor that alongside Patrick Ricard in the backfield, former defensive end right there, number 42.

He's 315, 320 plus who can run. They can beat you up if they want to. We did a little science, okay, for this Derek Henry thing, because I thought to myself, would I ever want to stand in front of Derek Henry? Absolutely not. So we do a little E equals MC squared. And obviously, E is energy, okay, and I'm not Einstein or Oppenheimer, but you get it. M is mass, obviously. C is for constant, which is the speed of light, okay?

And Einstein said if you took the mass times the speed of light, you would obviously get E. So let's go ahead and do the Derek Henry version of that. He's 252 pounds. He runs 22 miles an hour, okay? That would be 5,500 joules of energy, which is equivalent to 4590-mile-on-hour fastball simultaneously. Haneously hitting you. Ouch. That it hurts.

In a hole. Derek Henry says, here I come. And you're standing there going. We got 364 days to the next hockey trial. So we have to Gilbert, and there's 45 of them. A 2,000-pound vehicle moving at 8 miles an hour. Okay? 2,000-pound vehicle.

I don't know what that is. I don't know what a normal vehicle weighs. But a 2,000 pound one moving at 8 miles an hour, you're standing there right in front of it. And it's enough energy, obviously, he's creating whenever he's moving at maximum speed to light a room for 90 seconds. Holy shit. That's pretty cool.

Okay. So that is what they are. Eric Henry is at this stage, and let's go back a week, he didn't get the ball for the final 12 minutes of the game. Then Harbaugh says, I should have spoke up a little bit. This game, 36 carries. We're riding Derek Henry, and the Baltimore Ravens go into week 18 in a must-win game for a playoff berth against the Pittsburgh Steelers, seemingly having it figured out that they need

to give the ball to the alien they have in the backfield, and that's Derek Henry, Darius, brother. Yeah, it's not hard to figure out. You have a modern marvel back there running the football, and what he's been able to do throughout his career. You mentioned a high school, his college, but what he's been able to do from the NFL level for this longer time, it's unbelievable. Yeah, just give him the damn ball. And now, you know, you talk about our sixth game lost streak with the Colts

because of injuries. This team has been dealing with, you know, dealing with injuries with their quarterback Lamar Jackson for kind of all season long. He was out so Derek Henry needed to step up and they gave him a career high, 36 carries, 200 plus yards, and four TDs. Green Bay knew it was coming. Baltimore knew it was coming. But it's nothing you can do about it when you. You got a guy like this. You mentioned all the different things.

Early on his career, he was kind of bouncing and trying to get outside, going a lot of East and West running. And once he started getting downhill and punishing guys, like you get on that second and third level with linebackers and DVs, nobody wants to tackle this guy. Joins Ledany and Thomason, pretty good company, and Jim Brown, a great company, is the only players in NFL history with 25 career games of 100 plus rush yards in multiple rushing touchdowns.

Ty, we saw it early with him moving. I mean, he had a touchdown within the first couple of minutes. Second touchdown followed suit there. It was like, is Derek Henry about to have a career day? Possibly. Now, back with the Titans, Vrable, their entire thing was, we're going to hand us off to Derek Henry, okay? Early. Might be getting an average yard per gain, like a yard and a half, two yards.

We don't care. We're going to stick with it. Do it again. Then by the third quarter, fourth quarter, it's going to become wide open. Those little holes are going to become bigger holes because Derek Henry's just going to wear you down, wear you down. He started early against you guys. You were immediately knowing that you were in a tough spot whenever he gets rolling like

that's high? Yeah, definitely. And just, you know, before that, he actually had the most rushing yards in the history of Lambeau Field, and Lambeau Field's been around for quite some time. So when you put that in context with everything, like, that's pretty crazy. But yeah, it's one of those things where it's just, it's so demoralizing, because once it starts, and like you said, usually you're waiting for that third quarter, fourth quarter, okay, and we'll be okay in the first half. He was unbelievable in the first half, and it's just, it's one of those your offense has to play perfectly. Like, if you, if you're not scoring on, because every time the Packers would respond and get a little.

momentum, they, the Ravens would get the ball back and then immediately boom, eight play, 80 yard drive, 12 minutes off. And if the Packers go three and out, that defense has to face Derek Henry again. I mean, it is a lot of pressure to keep the ball and to keep your defense on the sideline a little bit so you don't have to eat more at Derek Henry's knees. I mean, it's a real problem for any of these teams that have to square off against the Ravens. Yeah, for sure. And like you said, especially at this part of the season, like if your defense is even like a little banged up, like you don't have your A plus defense out there. And is exactly what happened is, you know, like, they would turn the ball over or they would

score, and then I don't know if the Ravens had a possession less than six minutes, and all of them were ending in Derek Henry touchdowns. This is the football that we thought the Ravens would be able to win with. Now, last week they forget to give them the ball, and I think it was last year when Hardball came out and said, we're not going to be giving Derek Henry the ball 20 plus times. And then they started giving them the ball 20 plus times. They started winning. This year, for some reason, they don't want to give them the ball in certain games and

think bad things happen. then they give him the ball and great things happen. What is it? They're just worried he's going to get hurt. They don't think he can do what he is. What do you think it is about the Ravens potentially not using him all the time? And do you think they'll ever make that mistake again after he literally breaks the hero record books at Lambo and in the NFL? It's almost like, hey, we have Lamar Jackson. We're giving him $200 million.

Let's use him as much as possible. And because of that, everybody else kind of falls by the wayside. But I saw a stat that's interesting. Snoop Huntley has their only two victories over 500 teams. So it's something to think about like, oh, okay, when Lamar goes out and they focus on Derek Henry, is that one of those things where, hey, they have more success and no one ever wants to have this conversation.

There are 28 teams that want Lamar Jackson and a quarterback, but when they do focus on Derek Henry, they have more success. Okay, and on that note, number four headline in the NFL, the inevitable. Okay, if you grew up in one of these cities, I think you understand that this was inevitable. Sunday night football, the Pittsburgh Steelers. in Accresher Stadium will host the Baltimore

Ravens. One of the greatest rivalries in all of sport, certainly in the NFL, the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers will be battling not just for an AFC North title, but you lose you go home. Playoff birth means maybe we can go on a run. Derek Henry, if he gets into the playoffs, is there

any team that's going to be able to stop him for four quarters if they're able to do it? And on defense aside, are they ever going to be able to just flip the switch and become great at defense? Because they've got stars all over the place. I'm watching that game, and I'm seeing big name, big name. I know that guy, I know that guy, I know that guy. How come their ass on the defense?

How come they haven't been fantastic? Well, let's just say they turn it on. And Derek Henry's able to do his thing. Are the Baltimore Ravens going to be able to win a playoff game this year? Maybe. If you have a home playoff game, maybe. In the Pittsburgh Steelers, they go all in and in the off season. They're trying to win a Super Bowl.

Teams hot. We're doing it. Then we cool off. Just lose to the Cleveland bronze. Oh, my God. But who cares? It's Cleveland, and you move on. You win on Sunday night football and you're in the playoffs.

This was inevitable and tone, I think you were staring it down for the last few weeks and you're bummed out about it, it feels like. Yeah, it was inevitable. I am bummed out soon as, and this is why I was rooting so hard for the Packers on Saturday night, you know, put out the hashtag GoPacko tweet. Soon as they lost, all Steelers fans pretty much had a good idea of what was going to happen yesterday because Raven Steelers, Week 18, Sunday night football was the inevitable. Is the thing that we are going to all have?

to go through. Once we move past the disappointment of yesterday, we'll then be able to focus on this matchup and whether Steelers or Ravens have a chance in it. Steelers the last three weeks have got up 78, 15, and 63 yards rushing. So that will be the game then versus Derek Henry. And we should feel good because we didn't dominate it. We won 2722 the first matchup this season, but they scored 10 out 10 unanswered in the fourth quarter. But, you know, It's just something that right now, I'm just mad that it's happening. Yeah, it does feel like you have a lot of negativity. And if you make it in the playoffs, you're going to have to play a primetime game.

You know, it feels like he doesn't want a primetime game because he doesn't want the world to see primetime Pittsburgh Steelers. Fast game in a year. Because then his mentions become pretty wild. But I like the fact that this is Sunday night football. I like that it's Aaron Rogers and his Pittsburgh Steelers team playing for life or death for their season, not for actuality. And now Hembo Center v.

stat. This would be the second time that Aaron Rogers will play in a win or go home game for the division title in the final week of the season. The other came in 2013 against the Bears leading the package to a 33-28 victory in a late touchdown to Randall Cobb in the final minute. This is what we have here actually. It's 28, 27, 46 seconds left. Fourth and eight, Aaron Rogers, magic to that stunt, that handsome blue-eyed Randall Cobb. Those were good old days, Ty, weren't they? They certainly were. Ben Johnson's done on the sideline for that Bear's team. And that was before they were good, better, or best. And that was when they were letting it rest instead of never letting it rest until the good became better and their better became

best. Bears are certainly a different team now than they were then. Jay Cutler, obviously smoking Jay, we're certainly a fan of him as a human. But the Green Bay Packers getting a late winner go home. Touchdown like that is special. Will that be the same thing that happens on Sunday night with the Pittsburgh Steelers? Do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers have a shot against his Baltimore Ravens team who seemingly just found who they were in week 17 going into the biggest game of the year. Yeah, and that last matchup, a big reason the Steelers won was because D.K. D.K. Matt McCabe. Big game, and that D.K. won't

be there. We saw, you know, the guys who were there when the game was on the line. So I think they'll be missing number four, and I think the Ravens, whether Lamar plays or not, I think they're going to lean heavy on 22, keep giving the ball, and force the Steelers to show up and stop them. We'll see if they can do it. But I like

the Ravens going on this one. Yeah, it's going to be hard. No, it's Aaron Rogers. This is a matter. The guy just I mean, it's going to be hard not to think about all these things as we're picking this game. We don't have to do that today. We'll do that on Friday. The dog in this series between Harbaugh and Tomlin is 25, 8, and 3 against the spread. Against the spread.

What about straight up? Well, I know the Steelers were dogs in Baltimore earlier in season and won. Oh! Okay, so I wanted out in the last one. That's definitely too many points. Three and a half. It always seems to be three and a half in this game. Well, is Aaron going to treat MvS like Megatron or?

Might have to. He might have a great week of practice. What was the demon? The demon was out there. I mean, is already going to forget that we're paying John Owe and Mooth more than anybody else on the offense? I don't know. The real question is, are we going to stop running the ball and run for six yards of carry? Is Ryan Kennedy going to be sitting in Accruist Stadium front row wearing a backwards Ravens hat?

That's kind of what this comes down to. People are thinking he's actually working for the Baltimore Ravens. Correct. All season. And he said in his press conference on Friday, I've been a season ticket holder. I've never had a violation. You can look it up. I respected him sitting in there

and explaining his entire situation, especially when it comes to animal cruelty and racist. I agree, by the way. I agree. I shout out to Ryan Kennedy doing that. But a lot of people are saying, this feels like this was like a Baltimore Raven super high intel chess play

almost maybe, getting D.K. Metcalf, the guy who is their weapon and explosive weapon out for the last two weeks? I'm sure Butta would be sending a thank you to Ryan Kennedy if the Baltimore Ravens were able to get into the playoffs. But I saw them all pulling for the Cleveland Browns as well. Yeah.

So it seems like Baltimore vibes, fans, team, everything, good. Steelers, full disarray, you lose to the Cleveland Browns. You got Shador Sanders throwing pump fakes in the air. They threw it. That ball has to be done. That thing's still floating right to his guy. That's a touchdown. Pittsburgh Steelers Raven Sunday night football for the title for a playoff berth.

That's a beautiful thing. What a ball. I mean, that's exactly what it's supposed to be. And it's not just the only great game we have in Week 18. Week 18 is about to be epic. We have an epic final weekend of the NFL season on deck. You have the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Saturday 4.30, kicking it off. That's for the NFC South title.

Winner goes, loser, ah. Seattle Seahawks versus the Niners? Oh, that's just for the number one seed. That's on Saturday night at 8 p.m. on ESPN. And then for Sunday, 425, a lot of 4 o'clock games that are good. Chargers, Broncos. That's for if the Broncos win, they get the number one overall seed. If they lose, they could potentially drop to the third overall seat

because they're still AFC West Chance for the first time in a decade, so there's certainly beat top four. But there's a world where the Jags win, I believe. Broncos lose, and then the Broncos are the third seed. Patriots are the one seed. Jags are the two seats. So everything for this is seeding purposes. But for the Broncos, the seven-and-a-half-point favorites,

I like that team a lot. I like the Denver Broncos a lot, especially with Big Ball Bo Nix. Yeah. Hey, Big Bo Nix is actually spinning it right now, and it feels like he's under complete control of the offense. Now, if you watch this Denver Broncos team all year, you think to yourself, well, it hasn't been that, like, electrifying to watch. The finishes haven't been that big of blowouts. The defense is still who the defense is, and Bo Nix is only getting better seemingly debutsch as they take on the chargers in the final week to potentially be the number one seed in the AFC. Yeah, this is crazy.

To turn around in Bo Nix, the jump that he's made from year one or two, he's been great Sean Payton. And this defense, like this defense, this pass rush against the Chargers' offensive line and those group of guys that try to block for Justin Herbert, it's going to be a scary situation to watch. We just saw it in the Houston game, even though it was still a close game, once again, some late calls down and stretched down on both sides. But it's going to be a great battle in the AFC West. This whole week 18, but this Denver Broncos team, electric finishes, and I feel like Bo Nix

plays his best ball when it's the highest pressure moment. So I love that about quarterbacks, especially a young quarterback like Bo. I like Bo. Oh, yeah. I like the way he plays. I like the way Sean Payton. And remember, this Denver Broncos team decided last year to take on the biggest salary cap hit in the history of football. Now, are they laying down kind of the groundwork or trailblazing for other franchises cut bait with bad contracts and just go forward with people that want to be there?

Maybe. But what they have been able to accomplish with not as much money as everybody else is certainly fantastic. and if they're the number one seed in the AFC, that would be bananas. You like Bo? You like Bo more than you like Justin Herbert? Oh, healthy, Bo. So the thing about Justin Herbert is full track meet. Okay, so I feel like any time you judge quarterback, we, and we're a part of the problem. We'll talk about the entire picture.

Justin Herbert's running for his life a lot. Everybody. I mean, it feels like he's running for his life a lot. Now, is there always going to be excuses? Like, is that always going to be the excuse, potentially? but they've had some pretty impactful injuries that they had offensive line and Herbert is seemingly always running for his life

and against his Denver defense I just don't know if that's the position I want to be in but I have faith in Herbert like Herbo is a good one I'm a big fan Will they ever be able to just figure it out though like you know like that's they always have it

it's tough and that's why I have we put so much respect on teams that actually go and win it especially if you win multiple championships because there's always teams or franchises or quarterbacks or coaches that you can make excuses for. That's just life, that's football. So the teams and the quarterbacks and the coaches that can kind of get over that hump

and win a big game, whether it's the Buffalo Bills, can they finally go and get it down the stretch? The Patriots, oh, they're not tested yet. They haven't played a tough schedule. Like, it's always these built-in excuses for everyone. So we'll see who can figure it out. But, I mean, watch it Judge Herbert against even this Texan team. Like, you expect it to coming into the game.

You know what that pass rush is. You know what his offensive line is. and you actually watch the game, you're like, damn, like, I feel bad for that guy. Sometimes, and you never want to feel bad for an NFL player, especially a quarterback. But, like, you see shit like this. It's like, come on, man. But I guess it happens, you know, pretty much every game. But it should be a great one.

Seven and a half points. I think there's a lot of points for division opponent's week 18. But I'm excited to watch it. So on that note about the Texans defense and what the Broncos defense, Chris Ryan, Rimm, reported via ESPN Research. The Texans pressure, Justin Herbert, 20 times on Saturday. That's his fourth game with 20 plus pressures. season. Most by a quarterback in a season since, Justin Herbert in 2022. It's like, are they

ever, they tried. Hardball comes in first draft pick, oh, we need another one. We need to do this. And then he get a couple injuries and all of a sudden it's back to the same old shit and it's Herbert running for his life, actually running for his life back there. Well, it just, you know, you read that and it makes you feel like they're never going to get it figured out. And again, like maybe they do have that excuse in place because they have tried to do everything they can. But every time we go into a season, I feel like everyone, one's hot on the Chargers because of how good Herbert is and because of Jim Harbaugh. And then at this point in the season, we're saying the exact same thing.

He's like, well, he's running for his life on every single play. His offensive line sucks. His skill position players aren't as good as they need to be. It's just it's a broken record over and over. But who knows? Maybe this is the year that changes. Well, and that's thing. They've been strapped for cash for so long.

I mean, we forget that they got rid of Keenan Allen, Mike Williams a couple years ago. They got rid of Joey Bose. So like they've had to get rid of a bunch of players. Now, if there was ever a year for the Chargers to make a run, it would be when the Chiefs completely fall off, but instead, you know, the Broncos kind of rise up with the second easiest schedule in the NFL people forget to talk about. And that's why with the Chargers, the New England Patriots, everyone talks about that though. With the charges with Herbert, though, that was the first time on Saturday where it was like, wow, okay, this guy is so screwed

damn near every single play. They should have scored what, three touchdown. They should have had 24 points at least against the Texans. Like we're talking about the Texans, yeah, with the field goal. Dicker misses a kick that he statistically... Most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL. Yeah. So it's like everything seemingly always goes wrong for the Chargers. That's why it's damn near impressive that, you know, Herbert has willed them to 11 wins. Now, who knows what happens in the playoffs of all the favorites win, to your point about the

seating, they end up with the seven seed and they end up traveling to New England. So it's just, will they ever figure it out? I don't know. I genuinely hope they do, though, because watching Justin Herbert is a treat every single time. Their defense is very good, too. Defense is going to play well under mentor, so they'll have a chance. And he's gone. And he's gone. And he's gone.

Yeah, is he going to be gone to be a head coach? Who knows? Let's move to the next headline. And you mentioned potentially having to travel to New England. The not so. Evil Empire is back. We've been talking about this for a bit now. And I think it's maybe because of who we are.

But we like Vrabel as football coach. We like Vrable as human. We like Vrable's story getting kicked out of Tennessee and basically going free-loading to Cleveland, rounds for a year back at his hometown and then going back to the place in which he's in the Hall of Fame. Drake May, this guy was talked about being a guy who, yeah, he's athletic, but it's going to take forever. Every time he answers any question, he says the right thing. And he's damn new perfect. I think he just had the best quarterback game in the history of

football. Yeah, ever, ever. He was the highest QBR in the history, single game QBR in the history of any quarterback that's ever played football since 2006. Drake May just did that. Now, granted, we're going into the playoffs. So what a time to play your best football is what we're aiming for. But not only does he play the best football. football on the field. It's like off the field, he says everything that you would want your lead mind, your front mind to say and be like. Seems like the entire team loves them. Seems like the locker room is together. Vrable has it right. And it's hard to hate this team. I'm going to be honest. It's hard to hate the New England Patriots. Now, we'll be able to figure out how to hate

them if they start stacking up Lombardies like they did for the last 20 years before in the last dynasty? But it's crazy to think that the evil empire, the New England Patriots, are all the way back. Could be the number one seed in the AFC. Could obviously win the Super Bowl. this year. No questions. They have everything that you can potentially win a Super Bowl with. And it's almost a more likable squad because it's more unexpected at this stage. Is that what it is, Dee Bow? I don't know. Maybe we're too close to it because we like Braves. We know Braves. I mean, most of us, we like digs. We like a lot. We love. I love Drake May. We love him. I think outside of you zoom out a little bit, I think majority of NFL fans probably still

hate the Patriots and probably will forever hate the Patriots because they always won. They always got calls. And now you got another second coming of the quarterback. that you lost to for two decades. So I think the hate is still out there. I think they still are the evil empire, even though they are more likely. We had Shragues up here. He was talking about from the media standpoint,

been in the building, how it feels different. People actually smile about you, not walking on the eggshells and shit like that. But, yeah, I think they're still an evil empire. You're choked up. He got trapped in them back. Yeah, man.

You're chuffed up seeing him back. Go ahead. Well, it's funny. He said something in there that I just, I don't want to completely go there yet. He's not the second coming because he's kind of the first coming. No one's ever done the shit. he's doing.

My apologies. It's okay. You know what? I will forgive you for this time. He's the first ever quarterback with 90% completed passes while throwing for 250 yards and five touchdowns in a single game. He actually was removed from the game with 530 left in the third quarter. So that would have been for 300 plus yards and probably seven plus touchdowns in a single

game, but we were robbed of that. But that's because the Jets are the worst franchise in all of sports. He's also the first ever quarterback with 4,200 pass yards, 30 pass touchdowns. What? 110 pass already. 400 plus rush yards and four rushing touchdowns. I mean, that's the coolest thing for me is that he also has the mobility that people forget about. And then, yes, to the one that was just shown, this is just the second time ever that a team has gone from 13 losses to 13 wins.

Drake May's first year to his second year and Peyton Manning's first year to his second year. I'd say, well, this is a 17 game season. Well, shut up, we did it in 16 games. This is, and I can't emphasize enough, the coolest feeling ever, you know, as a Patriots fan who went through all the shite, it was tough. But to sit here last night and watch a scene like this, and I don't know if we even want to play the audio, but it's just the Patriots watching the bills melt,

and the bills actually became, you know, the first team ever to win five straight division titles and not go to a Super Bowl once. Kind of cool, I guess, too, for a New England Patriots fan, another victory you can take but it all starts with that guy it truly is Mike Vrable and he just seeing the vibe around it is something that is new when it comes to winning because you know the winning shit isn't new for New England Patriots fans but the winning with a smile on your face that is new it is cool to see all the players

get the love and kind of respect that they deserve from the layman if you will and from the football fan but yeah you might as well listen to it no no listen to it him calling everybody up at the FBO after a game after a flight home. Not normal. This is an abnormal situation just in general. And by the way, to your point about Vraibs, just everybody buying in, y'all, Braves is talking, let's go ahead and relax. And you hear, every time you hear

a Stefan Diggs talk, with everything that's ever been said about Stefan Diggs. Yeah. In the world that Stefan Diggs is currently in where he's more famous than he's ever been. You know, I would assume his clout is higher than it's ever been. It's like, listen to him, be a leader on the team. That was clearly Vrable going to him early. Like, hey, I'm going to need you to be a guy in here. It's like

what he does, how he does it. Clearly gets everybody to buy you. But it's winning. football. You know, it's winning football as well. And you mentioned it a few times before that he kind of seems like he's in it with the guys. Like, yeah, I'm in it with the guys. Obviously, my vote just counts 10. And I don't know, you probably have more context, but I saw a clip that they have the audio on with him and our Christian Barmore going into a halftime. I think Barmore maybe got into it with another player. And you see like Vrabel like in his face going back and forth. And that's the thing. A lot of coaches are put in a position. And sometimes they

avoid those type of conflicts or those type of conversation with their players. But Vrable just steps right into it. I assume he said like, hey, we'll fight him afterwards. Something like, it felt like it was like a very, very intense. And he hit him in the chest too. We're able like hit him in the chest a couple of times like, you know, we don't need that right now, who you are and who they are. I think it was, and hopefully they do have the mic'd up moment. I think they went eight and no on the road. Okay, I think that was something they all talked about as motivation. You heard Stefan Diggs talk about, he heard Drake May talk about. I think people on the defensive side talked about it. And I think they said something about

packing their culture. Is that what they've said? We can pack our culture, take it on the road. I forget what it was. They had a test. They had a test. tagline, though, that multiple guys said. And it was like, oh, this is how Vrable motivated these guys. Ain't no on the road and we can pack or something. I forget what it was. But basically trying to prove like, hey, we can go and do this. There's been

other teams in the past here that have done this. We need to accomplish it. It felt obvious that that was the motivating factor going into the final week against the New York Jets. And they obviously smacked the hell out of the New York Jets. Who might be... They are. They are. Actually, a friend

of the program right here, a good friend Michael Cole of the program. He has jump ship. He is now a New England Patriots fan. He is done with the Jets. That's not real. Yes, it is. Dude. I'm telling you, that can't be rude. Just think about the kick thing that happened with that lady. Just think about that. Like, let alone your ass. Your team is cheeks. Okay, this is a butthole operation from top to bottom and it has been. And this girl is going to want a kick for her dad. And then they find out that she might actually be able to make this thing. We played middle school soccer. She can't do this. We thought there was no chance

she would make it. No way. Do you see Nick play tennis? There's no way. This lady's able to make a field goal. Then they find out somebody goes like, hey, she's a high school soccer. She has kicked before. Cancel it. Cancel that thing. Completely get that out of there. It's like everything they do is like how can we be the most hateable franchise? Like how can we make our fans hate us more than they did before? And obviously that is just kind of in it. And we would have done a kick. We reach out to the Rose Bowl where the next game day is. And we thought there'd be no chance. Rose Bowl people would say yes. With the torrential downpour potentially coming, who knows how it will go.

The Rose Bowl people are like, yeah, you can use the field for game day for her to kick, by the way. So we were going to do that. That was something that was happening. So when I put the eyeballs up on that thing, very much, text, call, easy. Let's see, can we do this? It would have been for $2. You know, and I think it would have been at the Rose Bowl, whether or not she wanted to do that. So shout to the Rose Bowl saying, yes, we will definitely do that.

And also shout to the Jets for saying, actually, yeah, she can do the $100,000 kick now. She missed it, okay, which stinks. people missing kicks. I mean, that's pretty obvious, going out there. But just everything about the organization sucks. And then you start seeing like, well, it's a new defensive head coach and a defensive mindset. It's like, well, they have zero interceptions on the season. Zero? Zero. None. Not even like one that was tipped up in the air. Nope. Tips overthrows. Got to get those? They ain't. They ain't get any of them. That is just something that hasn't happened. Defensive coach. Now, they trade, they trade pieces away,

great piece of way to get more assets. And obviously, they'll make the right decisions on what those assets should be going forward, we assume. Maybe I'm a fan of Aaron Glenn, but the shit that's coming out about this defense being historically terrible and his team being historically terrible is outrageous. Lost four straight games by 23 points in the history of the NFL football. History. Jets in 2025. Then he got to go back to the 70s, the 50s, the 30s, and the 20s. The U-Rang Indians in 1923. Lost four straight games by 23 plus points. And you think to yourself, dude, The U-Rang Indians, that's on a team, it is. Yeah, Nikki Sasses' boys.

Yes, actually, you do know of them. Who was the star on... Jimmy Thorpe? Yeah, you ever heard of them? The Jim Thorpe? Yes, Jim Thorpe was star. The U-Rang Indians were a team of all Native Americans. I can't believe they called themselves that.

I don't know if they know how offensive that was to themselves at the time. Okay, obviously, that would vastly be different now. But the U-Rang Indians were a team Jim Thorpe was on that was led by a guy who, was literally just trying to sell dogs from his dog kennel, they lost four straight games of 23 plus points. They didn't think it could be done at the time. Their first team ever do it, 1923. Team's like, there's no way you could be this ass. And then the U-Rang Indians were like, it's not about football anyways, we're trying to sell these sweet dogs. They got very cool. The Air Dale Terriers, I believe, is the name of the dogs, good-looking dogs.

I mean, they got good stances, good posture, good noses and everything like that. The only, they were named the U-Rang Indians because the name U-Rang was a kennel, where this guy was trying to sell dogs. There it is. That's the dog you're trying to move. That ain't the dog, actually. Is that Jim Thorpe? That's not the Airdale dog.

Yeah, Bruce got completely wrong. Jim Thorpe loves dogs, though, which we certainly respect. That's not the Airdale that they were trying. Yeah. What's that? You're right. Yeah, true, that's one of the things. Oh, yeah.

Animal cruelty. I completely forgot. Space hot. But anytime you're in the same conversation as the U-Rang Indians, who are a team that was literally only put together to move some dogs, You know, it's not going well. And that's the New York Jets of this season. And it's first year with a new head coach.

And he's a defensive coach, and we love Aaron Glenn. But we don't save them. We don't know if they could be saved over there in New York, honestly. I mean, it was ugly all-time bad. You talk about zero interceptions. That seems impossible to be able to do there. I think they're second or third to last in the league when it comes to sacks as well. You mentioned trading Quinn Williams, Trades in Salis Gardner.

So obviously they were tanking on this year. It wasn't a little stretch in the middle of season. I think they won two or three, maybe back-to-back games. But, yeah, it's just an all-around shit show. From the top down in New York Jets. I mean, will it be one and done? I hope not for Aaron Glenn. I like Aaron Glenn.

I hope so for Aaron Glenn. They have all these picks and shit. Will they do the right thing? They haven't done it historically. Let's see if they could figure it out. But, I mean, that shit is all time bad. The only thing I was thinking with this game right after halftime was get Drake May out. Like, I would hate to see him just go down and be hurt for the playoffs or anything.

that because this team, who Brady Cook was that quarterback now, it's just it's a shit show. Well, and that's why when you say like, we like Aaron Glenn, I actually don't because the only thing that I was worried about was the injuries and then they're doing cheap bullshit after the plays. It's like, okay, so this guy I won't say this guy, but this team

is a detriment to football because watching them makes you not like the sport. But then at the other side of it, it's, oh, like, I'm now worried about just the safety and medical, you know, future of the players of the team I root for. When you think of the front office and ownership, they're crooks. I mean, sure, the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Pittsburgh Pirates guy,

Bob Nutting, he just goes down to, you know, the Pirates Field and he collects a check and he doesn't spend money. And that's cool and great. We just paid O'Curn, thank you. That's right. Two years, 26 million. In baseball, that is basically pennies. But again, it's one of those things where they're honestly just collecting checks, and that's how it feels. No matter what you say about this Jets team, there's nothing you can look at and say, like, that's good. Garrett Wilson has played since October and he's their leading receiver. It's almost January. Like that is abysmal. It's pathetic

beyond sports. Like it's pathetic in the sense of getting F's and finishing last in a race where you should finish first. I don't even know what's compared to because it's so embarrassing. And as a Patriots fan, as a member of the AFC East, like I'm calling for their fans to either veto

some sort of movement or growth within MetLife within the team. If I'm Aaron Glenn, if I'm a fan of Aaron Glenn, I'm telling him like, hey, you've got to chain yourself to the practice facility and say, hey, no one's allowed to use this thing until either ownership sells until they completely redo their front office because there is any hope and guess what's going to happen. They're going to use those picks they got. They're going to draft two guys and bolt those guys. One of them might be really good. They're going to trade him in three years after whoever they draft that quarterback doesn't work out.

And most likely as well, they're never going to rebuild. the dolphins, I have way more faith in the dolphins. The bills have Josh Allen and the Patriots have Drake May and Mike Freiboy. Realistically, the Jets are not going to win for another 20 plus years unless there's changes. A, J-E-T-S, J-E-S, Jets, Jets.

He quit again. Unfortunately, it is our fifth retirement tour for Firemanette. Firemanette has called it again. He's doing the George Belinda. He's doing what you're saying. Yeah, he's saying enough. Enough of this.

Enough of this. I used to run towards fires. not away from why am I standing up to cheer for dumpster fires okay i'm a firefighter i'm supposed to be fighting against these exactly and uh he feels like what he's cheering for at this point is a fire now on that note they were not in the lame bowl yesterday but during the raiders and the giants that was another team of close met life um so shout to the new york new jersey people you're doing great jump ship at least they had a run giants you know oh yeah the jets did too remember No, I don't remember.

Yeah, me neither. I just seen a clip. Yeah. They look like a good time. He's by the pool. You know, there's no social media. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we're going to do this.

Sick. All, let's go to the number one headline coming out of the weekend. By far, the Sunday night thriller. The game of the year, between the 11 and 4 Chicago Bears. First, the 11 and 4, San Francisco 40 Manors. Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, taking on. Barack Purdy, Kyle Shanahan. Now, Shanahan, Ben Johnson.

Hello, I mean, here we are. Obviously, McVeigh's name gets tossed in there and some others. But whenever you're talking about offensive minds, when you're talking about offensive brilliance, you're talking about those two coordinators. And then the defense coordinators in this game, Dennis Allen, former head coach, Robert Salah, former head coach. So whenever you talk about four supreme, incredible coordinators, you talk about this particular matchup.

In forecasting it, I don't think we would have expected a shoot-up. I don't think we would have expected this thing to. get to what it got to. But as we were watching it, all any of us could think to ourselves, it was, wow, football is the greatest. Brock Purdy's obviously dancing his ass off. He's got the duggy down pat. He said he'd been practiced at in front of the mirror. He certainly has. First play, pick six. Chicago Bears defense. How you doing? Keep it moving. In Santa Clara, 15 seconds into this game, it's 7-0 Chicago Bears. Is Brock Purdy going to have one of those ass games that he's had in the past? Is Christian McCaffrey not going to be able to do anything?

and uh-uh, Christian McCaffrey goes absolutely harm. Now, I put out a couple tweets about Christian McCaffrey in the way we talk about him is as if he's a machine. He never gets tired. How is this guy on the field all the time? How's this guy get the ball all the time? How does he take this many hits? How is he able to just never get tired

and how is he always explosive? Because, you know, in boxing later rounds, the juice is all gone. So laying in a massive shot in like the 10th, 11th, 12th, 3rd is going to be difficult, you don't have enough explosion in you because of how long the fight has been. In the fourth quarter, third quarter, after you've gotten the ball 40 times, both through the sky and on the ground, I don't know how there's any explosion left in your body.

He somehow always has it, always explosive, never gets tired, always has the ball, and this dude is special. In Brock Purdy, he's seemingly at a different level this year. The Purdy Moxie is fantastic. It's not just through the sky and understanding what is going on. How about on the ground, I'm going to be faster than you, and then I'm going to do my shit. Yeah, I'm going to, uh, uh, huh? Huh, huh? Hey, hey, I saw some white people on the internet saying what Purdy was doing was cringe.

Yeah, right. Purdy crushes that thing. Now a little bit of a juke here, you know, stays clean. They even give us the Hulkster, huh? Excuse me, let me hear it, Santa Clara. You got an absolute dog here getting paid $50 million a year. And then this play, obviously going to run for the rest of time for Brock Purdy on Sunday night football. He's shaking, he's baking, he's cooking, he's looking, and touchdown, Harvard, Big Brain Juice with the perfect spike. And Brock Petty got a euro step.

Uh-huh. Hey, hey, hey, Brock Purdy, unbelievable. Now, Trent Williams pulls a hamstring, okay? So what is that going to do? George Kiddell obviously not playing. What are they going to look like going forward? But this San Francisco 49ers team outgunned, outmaned, outlasted, the Chicago Bears team who had a chance.

The Chicago Bears had four seconds left on a clock, down four. And they had Caleb Williams with the ball in his hands. All he had to do was score a touchdown from the two and a half yard line. He's cooking. He's moving. Is anybody open? Final answer? No. Was he throw one? Yes. Does Torrico make a great call? Absolutely. Love the energy. The San Francisco 49ers win. The San Francisco 49ers won that game on that play. Nobody was open.

Now, were we expecting some Ben Johnson shit? They ran a hook and ladder right before that to get down there. Was there a two-point play maybe that could have happened that Ben Johnson had in his back pocket to win the game, potentially? But instead, what we saw was an electrifying, epic, instant classic between these two teams who obviously are going to have great runs in the playoffs and potentially are only getting started with these two franchises for the next five, 10 years. Thank you football.

Thank you, Niners. Thank you Sunday Night Football, D, Bud. Yeah, unbelievable stop right there, Bob. Damanor, Lenore, at that corner on that hook and ladder. If he likes to get up that edge right there, even get out of balance, it's kind of a different game down there. You kind of maybe some Bears fans want to just play a little closer to the end zone. But if he wins, they win it. He scores right there.

Ben Johnson is a genius. Just a great game by both team, both offenses. Usually you can find some corner of the internet bitching or moaning or something about any game. And most of the internet is pretty universally agreed. Like, hey, this is a great game. It's a great prime time game. back and forth. Wasn't history, I think, back and forth being tied all the way up to 35. Just an unbelievable game. Great game by Caleb Williams as well, 330 in the air, two

touchdowns, no interceptions, but back-to-back games now for Brock Purdy being responsible for five touchdowns. And we always talked about an early in his career. Hey, he's just doing this because of Kyle or Dibor, Ariuky. You mentioned all those names being out of the lineup and then putting this shit on his back. So just a big-time performance by both of these teams and an unbelievable job by the Niners still got a chance to get the one-seat to have, you know, home field advantage throughout the Super Bowl if they're doing his thing Pierce all doing his thing Jennings doing his thing having a couple mass of plays and it's like without Fred we saw Fred last night which was cool it was

good to see Fred he was pretty active without Bosa is this team going to have enough do they have enough on the defensive side I know Ben Johnson and Chicago Bears offense is very good but did the Niners have enough on the defensive side they're playing for the number one seed now I think that'd be the question for both of these teams the defense can they step up and stop you gave up 80 points on the field so I don't think either one of these teams have enough on that side of the ball. Offensively, I think both of these teams can make a run. Okay, so that's the number one

headline coming out of Week 17 is a Sunday night thriller. What are a couple things we miss, D-But, you think? We kind of mention it a little bit with the Broncos. First time in 10 years and a decade winning their division. Last time, I believe it's when they went to the Super Bowl. And then, on the flip side, on the other side,

the NFC, the Eagles. They get an ugly, ugly win in Buffalo, but their defense since week 8, giving up a 15 points per game since Jaylon Phillips trade. Cooper DeGene has been phenomenal. Quinyan Mitchell, also a pro bowler, two pro bowlers in the back. And Jaila Carter's back. And whenever he's on the field, he's going to be dominant, had his met on another field goal this weekend. So yeah, this is a team that is poised to make a run in the playoffs.

I've never jumped off the Eagles bandwagon. I know my head coach just missed the locker room, but I'm still on the bandwagon. I think they can get hot and get rolling. Josh Allen missing that throw, abnormal. Completely abnormal. Jalen Carter blocking a kick the extra point of Michael Badgley, not abnormal. He's a guy. Obviously, Jailen Carter's become a part of this. And maximum effort on fuel goal or extra point blocks is a good sign from your best players, especially with Jalen. And if he has a little bit of hope that he's going to be able to get it, he's going to continue to push. Them going from two, I didn't mind it. I mean, I know people are saying, hey, Eagles offense, I think Jalen Hertz was 0 for 7 in the second

half passing, which is like the worst, I think, out of any team that's ever won a football game in the history of football or something like that. So why not take this to overtime? You have it. It's like, well, you have all the momentum, too, the guy's wide open. Josh Allen does what Josh Allen does 99 out of 100 times. He puts this on him. They win the game right there, and everybody says they love the play. So it's very Monday morning quarterback-ish to be able to go after the decision. But on that note, Josh never misses them.

No. No. He's right in MVP. And he put the ball in his hands. And Coach Siriani afterwards was talking his shit going up the tunnel. I was not talking about in both more. Woo! Not so much anymore.

AJ's like, he got it. Lockroom's right here. Tacking him on. Almost missed the locker room. That locker room's been there since the beginning of that stadium. Them coming down the same tunnel, out the same tunnel, is obviously a part of a lot of different scenes in the history of ball. But him almost missing that locker room just so he could talk his shit,

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new england patriots been there one yeah exactly wish we cared about division titles and stuff like that only counts super bowls okay yep all right sounds good uh the tie schmidt obviously green bay packers fan malik willis a player might be a little bit too good of a player what I don't know, you know, after watching that game, you know, I mean, you maybe have a couple ice cold pops in and you're starting to think, well, we're already in the playoffs. Jordan loves in concussion protocol. Maybe he just stays in concussion protocol for a couple more weeks. Let him get healthy, fully healthy. You know, brain injuries are very serious. I don't want, you know, anything to happen to him. And I really maybe wouldn't mind seeing Malate Willis, you know, in the first round of the playoffs. Wow. Boy, that offense was humming.

Now, granted, the defense looked like hammered dog shit. But the offense was absolutely humming on Saturday. On that note, Micah has got his ACL surgery. He posted a photo. Yeah, we would like send positive thoughts and prayers to Micah Parsons as he recovers and everybody else that's going through surgery. Obviously, a season, a game of attrition is what football is. You get a couple important injuries, you know.

Boy, your season could change. And they're talking about collapses. You know, the Packers are one of them. Yep. Colts are another one. Yep. It's not great. No, we made the playoffs still, though.

Oh, you know. One out of the hammer, died. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Collapses. Are the Pittsburgh Steelers going to be a part of that conversation? Or are the Pittsburgh Steelers going to have a home playoff game after a big-time win at Accursure? You know, and I was super down,

but then I forgot that the Ravens' defense is ass. So maybe we will have a... No, that's not the takeaway from Malik Willis. Malik Willis is fucking good, okay? It has nothing to do with the Ravens' defense. I just remember back in, I was like, Oh, Aaron threw for $2.90 against his defense a couple weeks ago. So it's like, now DeKalin was there.

So that's, you know, a different story. But nine-year NFL vet. Derek's Jay Butler is here. Oh, we're going to revisit that punishment now that Glazer did his scoopage yesterday? What's that? Just, you know, about the reports about the fan from last year and things that were set. What do you say? Some sort of scoopage.

I can't remember exactly. No, the scupage I saw from him was that they kicked Max Crosby out of the building and he wanted to play. That was scoge as well. And then Max Crosby basically said, I'm not hurt. Look at this. Sick. Hey, he's got a silky jumper. Yeah.

He has got a silky jumper. Jake Glazer reported that, you know, Las Vegas, watch that. Splash. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. Obviously, incredible gym at the house. A lot of people are commenting on the names of the businesses on the pads there. If he got those businesses to pay for this gym to be in his house, great move.

Which I would expect Max Crosby to do. Good businessman. man. But the scoopich from Jay Glazer was... I still can't see... Well, okay, there we go. Scoopage! Raiders told Max Crosby they wanted to set him down last two games. Crosby, who has played with injuries for much of the year, vehemently disagreed,

and has left the building at NFL on Fox has learned this could lead the questions on his future in Vegas. We love whenever Glazer drops in and throws a fastball. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from Anatican, Ohio is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, all the time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packer. is A.J. Hoggner. Jay Glazer said, I don't do the day-to-day stuff. Okay, I ain't got the time. I got other things to figure out. But that's a pretty big little bomb that was chichetted about over there in Las Vegas. Yeah, it seems to, did it take Max by surprise, I would imagine as well? I don't think he was expecting this, but I credit to him for posting this. He does,

you're right. He's got a great-looking jumper and a beautiful home gym right there. Yeah, incredible home gym. Love the daughter. Also, he shoots one left to right, another shot that he's just silk. I mean, just absolutely pure. We've heard stories of the off season of him actually going into UFC Octagon, this one right here, yep. Hey. Yeah, off his off foot. Yeah, it's a little dirk. He's got a little dirt in him, plus, you know, a little

Wembe as well. Then he was also on trampoline, just showcased stability. I mean, the same day? The same day, yeah. This is him getting a chance to kind of hang out with the kid, you know, I've just been sent him from a building here. Now, Pete Carroll was asked about it. Pete Carroll was like, he's known what's going on. We talked about this since Monday, Tuesday.

We've kind of been going through it. And he's obviously a competitor. He wants to fight. Nobody wants to hear that they're being told that they can't play football anymore or whatever for this season. And we, he left. Yeah, he was upset about it. It's kind of how it went. And it's like, geez, Louise, is this what it takes to give Max Crosby out of Las Vegas? And they're telling he can't play in a meaningless game? And if that is the case, is Max Crosby exactly the guy that everybody wants on their football team? And then you start looking at his contract. I think it's very tradable. It's unbelievable. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a senior NFL insider for

ESPN and a man who might have a little bit more on this entire situation. Adam Schaefter. Chefty, I don't know if you heard Jay Glazer here just moments ago or this past weekend or saw his tweet. He chichetted about the Max Crosby Raiders situation where they basically told him or shut him down because he wasn't healthy. Good to see you. Good to see you back out here. Hey, good to see you back out here. But anyways, they basically said they shut him down because he wasn't healthy enough to play. He'd been fighting through something obviously the last few weeks. He got upset about it. Then we saw videos of him doing some stuff. the Max Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders situation from your perspective, Chefty? Well, I think both sides can be right.

I think where the Raiders are coming from is they had scans done on his knee on Tuesday. Doctors felt like his condition had worsened. He needs knee surgery at some point this offseason. They're in a spot where why would they expose him. He is a football player and wants to keep playing, of course. His drive, his energy, his attitude is what has made him so successful. so he wants to keep playing and from their standpoint they don't want to risk putting him out there and making it worse especially when they're competing for the number one pick like there's no reason for them to do that so he may not like it but it sounded like what they were doing was the right thing and again i think both sides in this particular case are right they have no plans to trade him i don't know if that'll change i don't know if he demands anything and makes it such that they have to trade him but right now that's not how they're thinking all right we love Love you, Max.

Love you, Max. Oh, yeah. Continue to love it. Who knows what the Rangers look like in the future? If Max Crosby's there, we'll continue to watch him two to three times a year whenever he's playing a good team and he's on prime time. We would like to see Max Crosby, though, in prime time on a good team, take things over. Could you imagine Max Crosby in a Super Bowl?

Some country that only watches one game a year, watches Super Bowl and goes, holy hell, what is this white doing? On the Patriots. Oh, my God. People would lose their mind. Be good for the game, but I understand also loyalty to your team is good for the game. Max, we're pulling for you, Godspeed, on the recovery. Let's talk about some recoveries.

Trent Williams last night pulled a hamstring. Do we have any update on that? He was obviously out in space blocking, which is what he does. He's like greatest tackle in generation. Might be greatest tackle of all time. I know there's others. Joe Thomas, I believe, there's, oh, I'm missing the two names. I'm so sorry.

Randall Pace. Like there's people up there in a convo, but they're saying Trent. Yep, Trent is in that convo. And obviously what the Niners look like with him first without him, stats-wise, even though they win last night. Not great. What should we be expecting from him? And then also George Kiddle as the Niners make a push for the number one overall seed. Kiddle is going to push to come back this week. He never tested it last week at all. They weren't going to play him on Sunday night. So he didn't go out there. He was out.

He'll have a chance to be back this week Saturday night against Seattle. Trevor Williams went out of the game, didn't come back. Older veteran player. Tough on a hamstring. I think if you're the 49ers, you probably want to see if you can get that buy, give him two weeks off and then bring them back if that's possible. Now, again, they'll see how is the hamstring spilling this week. C.P.'s got any chance. I think it'll be tough for him to come back in a short week with a hamstring injury that prevented him from playing. But here's the great part for the 49ers is they give him veteran rest days during the season. So the young left tackle that they brought in last night, he's kind of used to that.

He's not Trump Williams. Nobody is. But at least he had gotten some reps. during the season because they were giving those rest days during the practice week to Trent Williams. Okay, how about Fred Warner? Because obviously saw him very active last night. So I'm on the field, so I'm talking. They reported last night that there's a chance he's back. What do we think about Fred?

He's been talking about this on his podcast for the past week. John Lynch said that he's got a shot. My understanding is it is, quote, unquote, a long shot for him to play again this season. But it's a great thing for him to continue to work for, strive for. And I would never put anything past that guy ever. He is as impressive as they come. And if anybody can make it back, that guy certainly can. Everybody would love to see it.

Again, the person I spoke to told me long shot, we'll see if they can make it. They'd have to advance in the postseason. He'd have to continue to make great progress. It reminds me a little bit of Aidan Hutchinson last year in Detroit. Same type of situation where there was a lot of conversation about it. Ultimately, it didn't happen. It would have been great if it did. And I kind of feel like that's where we'll be here.

again with Fred Warner, anything's possible. Okay, and last one with the Niners on the injury front. Christian McCaffrey's back. Is that a thing we need to watch? What are we thinking? There's zero chance that he wouldn't be out there this week. Like, that guy, I just think he's a war agent to do whatever it takes, and it's hard to imagine him missing.

He went out, he had some back spasms. Yeah, I think he'll be. Are they flawed on it? Wow. We lost you there for a second. You said he'll be active, though, for the game in your eye? I would be surprised if you were not out there this week. Got it.

Okay, AJ, go ahead. Chefty, with his Niners team, I think some people on the outside may be a bit surprised at the success they have had this season with the injuries. Is there anyone on their staff? You think that might get poached away, possibly head coaching candidates? Is Sal are going to get another chance? I think Robert Sal is definitely going to get interviewed here in this cycle. We'll see whether or not he gets one. That certainly will be a possibility.

His name has been bandied about here as a candidate. I'm trying to think of other guys that they would have. They have a young guy on their staff, Clay Kubiak, who eventually I think is going to be a head coach one day. Clint Kubiak's brother, I don't know that he's there yet, but eventually he may get there. They have some young GM candidates there as well. From the head coaching standpoint, Sala would represent their best hope to get one this offseason. And then for the Seattle Seahawks, there's some Darnold stats coming out about back-to-back-back-13 win seasons. And obviously what McDonald's been able to do there has been

very special. The Seattle Seahawks, whenever we're forecasting or projecting what they can potentially be or become, what are your thoughts, Chefty? Look, they do two things very well. They play great defense. It's Mike McDonald knows defense, and that defense has got a lot of talent. And they've got two very talented running backs. The running game has been up and down this season. Hasn't always been successful, but they ran the ball effectively yesterday. Jack Charbonnet was ripping off runs like this against the Panthers. Kenneth Walker come in. You never know who's going to get hotter on a particular day, whether it's going to be Walker or Sharbany. Of course, Jackson Smith and Jigba is about as good as there is in the game right now.

They're just a really good football team, really good football team. And if they win on Saturday night, then they're the one seat. And now you've got to go win in Seattle in front of the 12th man for two games like, good luck with that. Somebody might be able to do it. AJ, you want in Seattle

when you were playing for Green Band the Plus? Oh, you son of a bit. I don't know if it did it. I don't know, I don't think we did. We've won that. It's not in the playoffs. It's a tough place to play in the playoffs. You're not lying right there. Well, and on that note, talk about just Seattle being tough, San Fran being tough. Seahawks, 49ers will be the first regular season finale in NFL history

between teams both entering on win streaks of six or more games. And it's for the number one overall seedney, NFC. We're talking about special stuff. And if the Niners are going to keep playing like how we've seen them play and the Seahawks, I think they just held Bryce Young like 54 pass yards or something like that yesterday. I mean, you're talking about a battle of Goliath. It's a shame that one of them has to lose.

But, hey, one of them's got to be the number one seat. Go ahead, Shepty. And the interesting thing here is, and we've, talked about this, but if it's San Francisco, and San Francisco essentially will have won Saturday night, and then would have to win three more home games to be world champions. Three more home games. Now, again, Saturday night to me is a coin flip. Seattle's great.

San Francisco has played very well. I see the odds makers have established the 49ers is a point-and-half favorite, so basically it's a coin flip kind of game. But if San Francisco could find a way to prevail, the Niners would have homefield advance. They'd have to win two home games to play the Super Bowl at home. The odds makers see them as favorites this weekend. I wonder how many they would be favorites continuing down the playoff road at home for the San Francisco 49ers.

Them being able to win in Santa Clara would obviously follow suit with the Rams in Los Angeles in Tampa in Tampa. Before that, which was COVID here, it had never been done winning in your home stadium. But obviously it's a massive ordeal. Let's talk about another game this weekend that has a lot. of implications, especially for the kitchen that's always hot. The AFC North. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shepty, Sunday Night Football Ravens at Steelers. Lamar Jackson did not play this past weekend. Is he going to get the go for the season on the line on Sunday night?

I think you're the Baltimore Ravens you're preparing, like Tyler Huntley's going to be the starter. Last week, Lamar Jackson didn't practice at all. It was a very painful back injury, and he's missed at least one day of practice seven straight weeks now. Ankle, toe, knee, shoulder, flu, whatever it may be. And so he has consistently missed practice time. Now he's coming off a back injury that was very painful for him to endure. And so he might be able to make it back. But I think they're operating under the assumption right now.

Okay, let's go get Tyler Huntley ready. Tyler Huntley beat the Packers Saturday night in Green Bay. He beat the Bears earlier this season. Now he's going to have to try to go win in Pittsburgh. Again, maybe Lamar does make it back. That would be the hope. But right now, I think you're preparing and operating like Tyler Huntley is going to be the starter. Okay, that's the AFC North win and you're in, lose and go home.

Let's go to the NFC South. Bucks, Panthers. Bucks, what happened? What happened to the Bucks? Their ass? They're ass? I don't like that the Bucks are ass. because it's everybody I know is playing for it.

It's not like the people we don't know are playing. It's not like significant injuries to many positions. It's like they're actually getting more people healthy. Yeah, they got healthier as the season went on and seemingly got worse, lost a bunch of games. And Shepty mentioned the odds makers that they were favorites. And so, yeah, it's a great question. What the hell happened to the buck?

And the Panthers played like ass against the Seattle Seahawks, but are the Seahawks going to make a lot of teams play like ass? What do you think about the NFC South? Somebody's got to win it, I guess, Shepty. Well, I think Carolina's played pretty well. well here. Even yesterday against Seattle, they didn't win the game. But Carolina played the Seahawks pretty tough. And they've gotten better as the season's gone on. And the Buccaneers have not. The Buccaneers have gone the other way. And I don't know when this started, how this started,

why they started. I have a feeling that Baker Mayfield has been playing her. I'm feeling that we'll hear something about that after the season. Like, oh, his shoulder was, oh, his hit. Like, he just hasn't looked right at all times. And the defense, usually the Buccaneers under Todd Bowles, they're aggressive, they're unpredictable, they make things happen. And this defense has not been that way for the past six or so weeks. And I think football a lot of times, it's a lot about confidence, momentum, and this team's lost its confidence, lost its momentum.

And they've been one of the worst teams in football the last six or seven weeks. Yeah, and it's been ugly to watch. Shout to the Dolphins, hey. Hey, Spinners. Hey, look, Baker may be playing hurt, but to be honest, we don't care. I don't care. John Shal is playing hurt. Justin Herbert's playing hurt is week 18 in NFL season.

Old man, Rogers, playing her. We got a 44-year-old quarterback guy. We know he's hurt. He was hurt as soon as you walking the building. So, I mean, that's just part of it. Guys throwing his shoulder out for the Packers. That was awesome. Leaving a line.

Okay, so let's talk about that, Chefty. He got a little loud. by drunk Packers fans after their fifth time now watching Millie? How many times you guys see Malik come in? Yeah, I think he started at least four games. He's played a few more, but he started at least four. How real, and this is not saying how I feel. I love Jordan Love, came on a show.

Like, we are very thankful for Jordan Love, front of the program. But there was a narrative building by Packers fans. They were like, every time I see Malik, everything looks good. Every time I see Jordan, maybe it looks good. So you tell me, percentage of good versus percentage of, uh-uh. There was people like really rallying the troops for Malik Willis from the Green Bay Packers' Faithful saying, you know, we can kind of maybe get something for Jordan Love and return to this entire conversation. How much of those convos are anywhere near real?

Let's not just stay here. Huntley in Baltimore, I think I saw some Ravens fans even talking about. I do like what Huntley Snoop goes in there and really starts playing. Like how real are any of those things? And Lamar Jackson next year, definitely a Raven? Is that what we're thinking? and Jordan Love next year, definitely the starting quarterback for the Packers, and who

is going to pay Malik Willis? Maybe the Colts. Yeah. Maybe the Colts, Adam Schaefter. Well, here's what I would say that... It's overreaction Monday. Have some respect. Let's overreact and have some fun. But in the end of it, there are no definites ever. Like, nothing's ever definite.

But it would surprise me to see the Packers move off Jordan Love from Malik Willis. Malikwell is going to be a free agent and there's going to be a market because there are enough teams in that quarterback space that need help. Like, could you see him in Miami? Could you see him in Atlanta? Could you see him in Minnesota? Could you see him in Vegas? Could you see him in Arizona? Like, we can go on and on.

Jets. Like, there are any numbers. Don't go to the Jets, Malik. Don't do it. We like, Malik. You've already been in one dysfunctional franchise. guys. We don't need you to go to another. Tennessee to the Jets? Geez, that'd be a tough go for a kid who seemingly has it all figured out and his great football player.

You didn't say Indianapolis, so I like that. That means we're probably bringing back dimes, and he's ahead of schedule, is what Shepter's saying, from my understanding what you just said there, Schfter. Well, I think they are banking on Daniel Jones being back, and I do think that they'll resign him, and I do think he'll be ready for the start of the season. And if that's the case, then the Colts don't need to sign Malik Wills. therefore need to mention the possibility. Daniel Jones in the building this past weekend, by the way. Okay. He was at the game.

I don't think he was able to do anything, obviously, just had surgery. We wish you would have been able to get down in our asylum with the boys to motivate them because what Liam Cohen and Jacksonville Jaguars are doing is outrageous. This is outrageous what's going on. Did you know Josh, AJ, did you know Josh Heinz Allen is the biggest fucking guy on the field? Did you know that? I knew he was a large individual.

I didn't know he was the biggest guy in the field all the times. I heard you guys talking about in the first hour, but yeah, he's a, he's a gigantic human being, I guess, the more you look at him. It was startling. I mean, this is him walking through the tunnel. These do, obviously it's Cam Little, the kicker, so it's a little bit different, but he made everybody look like that. I mean, it was, everybody looked

small. Every human that walked by him on the field, off the field looked tiny. It was, I didn't know that about Josh Heinz Allen. I guess I should have known that, and I should have looked into it more, but it was like, our offensive line member center, guys I thought were pretty big, and his shoulder pads are sticking out

wider than it. I'm like, what is this thing? and then walkers on the other side it's like they were both hunting it and they did not have any time for any Phillip Rivers and stuff I mean there was there was no jockularity there was no jocularity Rivers threw the ball yeah yeah well

and he damn near killed Josh Hinesel grabbed the new hand yeah the D tackles I think there was a lot I mean we were there I did not expect that type of heat from the Jags but then I remember Liam Cohen has been telling the boys that everybody on earth has been pissing in her faces and telling them that they're

You know, like that. Liam clearly. That guy's 6.5-270 right there. That guy that just got knocked down by that ball. And that's what Phil Rivers can do. You know, Phil Rivers throws a ball. It might look slow. It's got power behind.

And we didn't do the full E equals MC squared. But if somebody else is throwing that, not that big of a hit coming out of Phil Rivers' hand, a little bit more thump to it. A little bit more thumped to it. And we obviously have respect. Okay, let's start talking a little bit broader pictures. And we don't want to talk futures immediately

because it's not a fun thing to do for teams or for franchises or for families or for guys that are potentially losing their jobs. But we're going in to the last week of the season. Go ahead, Todd. Yeah, chef, the outside of some of the usual suspects who we've already discussed this year, who coach teams that absolutely stink and are probably going to be fired, are there any other names that are kind of starting to bubble up? Like there's been a lot of smoke about, hey, maybe the Colts are firing both GM and head coach.

I saw a lot of stuff, hey, if the Packers with their late season collapse, and if they are eliminated in the first round, of the playoffs. Is it possible that Matt LaFleur loses his job? You mentioned the Bucks and Todd Bowles. Are any of those kind of names starting to kind of bubble up to the surface or where are we at right now with coaches on the hot seat? Well, I think we're going to get some conversation about all these guys here in the next week. And the speculation, obviously, we'll run rampant. And I think it just comes along as part of week 18. It just comes along with this time of the year. I think when you look at it and survey the landscape, I think where it's interesting is

that Sunday night game because somebody's going to lose that game. And when somebody loses that game, we heard the Steelers fans chanting to fire Mike Tomlin earlier in the year. We've heard Ravens fans saying that there should be conversations about John Harbaugh after the season. Somebody, one of those two teams is going to come up short. One of those fan bases is going to be unhappy. One of those owners is going to want to have some conversations about what went wrong. And so I don't know what's going to happen, and I don't know what to fallout and all these other coaches that we're talking about. But every year, there are always some things that happen. It never just goes the way that people think it will.

There are some obvious names this year. We already have two openings. There are some teams that people have talked about. But it's always those second tier that unexpected level of indecision. coaches that we don't know how it's going to go, whether it's Baltimore or Pittsburgh or in or some of these places that haven't, well, I don't think it's going to happen, Andy, but again, we don't know how the owner, the owner is not said that to me. So on that note, on that note when you talk about Pittsburgh fans, Pittsburgh fans think,

unless Tomlin says I'm done, don't ever make a change. I think Baltimore Ravens fans think that it's gotten to that point with John Harbaugh, too. So you saying that right there saying ownership might want to have conversations. I think for Pittsburgh people, their ears perk up a little bit saying, ownership might actually do something? Didn't know that was even a feasible outcome in Pittsburgh. I think is how Jinsers feel. Yeah, I think that somebody's going to lose that game.

And when they do, there are going to be conversations that occur. Maybe a lot of the organization. What went wrong? And look, there have been questions about both coaches' futures. What's so funny? What I miss? Well, just saying somebody might lose that. They could die.

They could die. I guess I'll tell you what. Tomlin or Harbaugh, kicking the extra point to tie it with 10 seconds left in overtime would be epic. What happens? Do we know what happens? Steelers go because they already won the first game. Steelers would make it? I would say, I believe so. Oh, Tomlin would know that and he would definitely kick the actual.

Oh, yeah, because they have nine wins, and right now the Ravens have eight wins, so yeah. Oh, that would be a great way for the Steelers to get into the playoffs. Oh, my God. A tie to the Raven. Chargers Raiders a few years ago. Almost happened, yeah. The decision was made. They call time out and they decided to get you. Oh, that would be amazing.

So somebody might lose that. I guess you're right. There's a chance both of them don't lose. There's a chance that that happens. Well, I also think that both these coaches, Mike Talman and John Harbor, for all they've done, for all they've meant to their respective organizations, for all they've meant to the National Public,

they will have a big say. You mentioned owners. I didn't say owners. I think these guys will go in there and say, okay you know what it's been a great one of them may go in there and say it's been a great run it might be time to go try something else whether that's tv or another job somewhere else like those things are possible they're within the realm of possibility for the wide range of outcomes after week 18 that's right and i will say if you go back and listen you did say ownership

we'll have to have some conversation yeah that's what you said i'm happy you corrected it though I'm happy you corrected it because that's how Yinsers and I think Baltimoreers, I don't know, what are they called? Baltimoreians. Baltimoreians, I feel like they feel the same way where it's like, ownership will never do anything to the coaches. These coaches have to make the decision. So, you know, maybe after a week 18 Sunday night football loss and missed of the playoffs,

there's certainly that to happen. Or maybe they think we can run this back and have some success next year. And I think both fan bases would not be surprised if that was the outcome. Now, speaking of surprise, I think there's a couple names that are out there to be a head coach. One of them, though, you know, if he was to get a head coaching job, I don't think we would be surprised. Go ahead, Deb.

Yeah, we kind of touched on it early with the Robert Sala, but Jesse Mentor, Van Shosef, and Brian Flores, who put on another master class against the lines this week that kind of boot them out of the playoffs. I saw some, I know it's rumbling's time. Maybe Dallas posting him to be their next D.C. Or him getting another opportunity to be a head coach. What's the likelihood of that?

And what do you see for the future for Brian Flores? Well, I think he's in a good spot here because that defense is very aggressive and very productive and his contract's coming up. So he's a coaching free agent in the truest sense of the word. He gets to go interview for head coaching jobs. And if one of those works out great. And if it doesn't, there are enough teams that need a great defensive coordinator. So Brian Flores can opt to stay in Minnesota. He can move on to go elsewhere.

Like I said, there are going to be six, seven openings. this year, six, seven, eight openings and those people will need defensive coordinators and his contracts up. So he's not locked into staying in Minnesota if he doesn't want.

He's going to have some options here. And I would think that he will definitely get some interviews, hey, coaching interviews, and we'll see how those go as well. Is there still a pending? Yes. Yes, that's all happening

with the league and Brian Flores? I believe that's still out there. How about league in John Gruden? Is that all still happening? I believe that's still out there, too. Because I'm so confused about the John Gruden stuff. So neither one of them would be head coaches. That's what we're assuming.

No, I wouldn't say that. While litigation is going on? Really? I wouldn't. No, I think, you know, look, if there's an owner that wants somebody, whether it's Brian Flores or John Gruden or somebody, whatever, I mean, I guess there aren't too many people that have litigation on guys to leave. I think that's an owner that want to hire one of those coaches

and felt strongly enough about one of them, I think they do it. Interesting. Because Gruden's name, not really being up for anything. I'm like, am I missing something? Especially when he is like very vocally, like, hey, I still want to coach. And hey, I still only do football all day. And then it's like Flores with what he's doing, it's like,

it didn't go great in Miami, but did anything go good in Miami at the time? And then you automatically start thinking, well, I think they're both in some sort of litigation. And if we know anything about the, I don't know. Chef, I appreciate you saying what you're saying, but I think. About it. there's a chance that Gruden's going to be opening boxes on the internet for a little bit or potentially getting a college gig, hopefully, or it all gets settled and figured out, and he's back in the NFL. But on that note, your college got a new head coach. Go ahead,

come, man. Yeah, Shafty, Michigan brings home Whittingham. How do you feel? I think everyone was kind of shocked when the AD refused to shake his hand, but how do you feel about the higher in general and Underwood, seemingly staying as the quarterback as well? It looks like that's about as good as Michigan could have done here. He seems like a great man, great coach. And the funny thing is, is in early December, I had some people reach out to me about him. And I remember sitting in the green room before an ESPN show and asking Alex Smith about him. And Alex raved about him to me.

I passed that on to some people. They went through a whole host of candidates. And they wound up on Kyle Winningham, which I think Alex Smith absolutely would have agreed with when you speak to him. And the people that know this guy, I've never met him. I've never spoken with him, but the people that know him and have been around him speak very highly of him. And his record is the same as Michigan's going back to 2005. They've had the same winning percentage. They've had the same number of winning.

See, like it feels like he's somebody that's going to come in and stabilize the situation and get things running in an orderly way. He knows exactly who he is, which is what I think is good for anybody hiring a coach is the person knows who they are. Just like I said in that tweet, Campbell, too, knows exactly who he is, knows exactly what his team looks like, knows exactly what players he needs. Now they just get a massive bankroll behind him and a brand name. Not that Utah and Iowa State weren't, but we get it. Michigan and Penn State, a little bit larger. That M and that P. or the lion, I mean, everything's big with the money they have behind him. So I'm like pumped for Whittingham and for Campbell to get a chance to experience, like, okay, if we do have all of the shit that everybody else has, what could we look like?

Because it feels like, not that Utah, I'm not saying it doesn't have a great support of Utah. But in Michigan, the amount of support they're going to have financially and everything. I mean, it's a Jordan brand school. I mean, you're talking about full court press on anybody you want out there, let alone Larry Ellison potentially becoming also a donor to your entire organization. I like Whittingham. I like the style in which he coaches. I also like the fact that the guy will go down a double black diamond 80 miles an hour on skis.

That's right. Okay, so this dude is a dog. I don't know if he's going to be able to find that in Michigan. Do you guys have any of those up there in Michigan, Fox? you guys got mountains? Yeah, if you go far enough north, you can find one. Where are you, Canada? Is that what you're saying? No, go to Traverse City area. It's absolutely beautiful. People are going

to hate that. I even said that because it's a hidden gem. Okay. Okay, so dump that is what people in Michigan are saying. Don't talk about it, but this guy, I like this guy a lot. I think this is a great hire. And to your point about when the hires were made, like when the firing took place, when the hirings were made. Getting Campbell

and getting Wittingham for these two schools, I think is a home run for both of them. I think the Big Ten got better, honestly. Yeah, and really, I mean, Michigan just needed, they're just trying to distance themselves from the Cheroni-More era as much as possible. And this guy, I mean, he's about as good of a guy. Seems like a stand-up guy we've met him before. Like, if he's going to do things the right way,

which is kind of what Michigan needed for this new iteration. Yeah, I'm not sure if you guys saw AJ over there when we were talking about it. Guy's shaking in his boot. Ohio State's nervous. That's what it seemed like. He's the team up north. I think best possible hire when I was thinking of candidates, he didn't pop up, but I think it's an absolute

slam dunk of a hire from Michigan. What would people be saying negative about it? Just he's old? Yeah. Oh, no ties. Yeah, the big stat that I... But he doesn't have Michigan ties, I guess, right? That'd be good, though, right?

At this time? Yeah, I remember when James Franklin got axed, he had the second most ranked losses as a head coach at Utah, so I know that was kind of what some of the Ohio State Buckeye fans were hold on to. We are big fans at God.

How old is he? 66. He's Jack. He's a young. years young 80 miles an hour that's impressive yeah he's a he's a hoss i told him i said skiing's out here crazy and he goes oh yeah i'll take you like immediately just like that and i'm like you're skiing out of he goes oh yeah and then he had uh his watch i guess keeps speed and he like show me he was like 82 miles an hour last week i want 82 miles an hour down double blacked

i'm like holy fuck dog holy shit dude he's like yeah it's awesome it's beautiful out here like getting him to leave utah i think he's a big deal first of all Like him leaving the state, I think is a massive ordeal. So congrats to Michigan being able to do that. And I think you guys got the right guy. And shout to you, I guess, saying, you guys need to hire winning him. Alex Smith-Colmes, good hire. I like Alex's brain.

I like yours as well. Have a good one, Chefty. We appreciate you. Happy New Year to everybody. Hey, we spend New Year's Eve with us Wednesday night. We'll be on ESPN too. Sure, absolutely. I'll be watching.

I guess I'll be, unless you're inviting me on the show, yeah, come on. And if you want to, if not, then I'll just watch you guys. That's all. Yeah. I don't know if we can have you on. It would be Ohio State versus Miami. I guess. Oh, they'd be so pissed if a Michigan man was on during that.

You can't do that. Shepter coming in. I know what Whittingham would do. All right, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaefter. Thank you, buddy. Yay, Jay, getting a chance to call that Ohio State game on Wednesday night is going to be fantastic. I'm so pumped for it, honestly.

Especially with the relationship we've built with the Miami team. Obviously, D. Butt refused to put the cowboy hat on down there at Texas A&M because he saw a Florida. The Hall of Famer at Roward County All the Famer down there. Miami feels like they're all the way back. Big underdogs taking on this Ohio State team. And obviously we got a guy who's got a tree on the Ohio State campus that's going to be joining us. Felt like we need to do this game. We weren't scheduled. I don't want to act like, you know, we do things that are crazy. But we are not scheduled to be on this game. I believe we're just doing an extra one. Okay. Got business by me just to kind of give this up and say, yeah, we want to do it. We will do it. But shout out to the people at ESPN for allowing it to happen on such quick notice. Mike Foss making it happen. Ben Warden Dish, I think, are going in on their New Year's Eve to do this whenever they weren't

supposed to do it. So, like, there's a lot of people that as soon as we sent the text once we found out that it could be potentially possible that said, yes, let's do it. So we're very, very grateful to be there and thankful to be there. And I think we're going to enjoy New Year's Eve in a beautiful way with a great football game, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, I think it's going to be an awesome game. I know the line's still nine and a half for Ohio State.

Yeah, it's big. And they haven't played. I think that's a big deal. I think having that first round buy is not good. I guess we're going to find out how it goes, but last year it proved to be not good, let the other team kind of catch their wind, catch their rhythm, and get the rust off.

That's a big deal in these games, and there's a chance Miami was able to do that. And this will also be the first time we've ever seen a team get a buy off a loss. This is the only team, you know, it's only been a couple years, but Ohio State loses, gets a buy. Ryan Day has been able to pull for, what,

three weeks, three and a half weeks, about how you guys stink the number one team in the country, IU, everyone's talking about them. It will be interesting to see. AJ, after watching that Miami team live, your thoughts on the matchup, feels like physicality-wise, they can match up with Ohio State. Yeah, Miami, obviously, their D and O line is unbelievable,

big, fast, strong dudes, their defense runs the ball. I was super impressed. I think I said it multiple times during that game. But also, the break might help Ohio State a little bit. They had some lower body, got things with Carnell, Tate, Jeremiah Smith. Both those guys were kind of dealing with lower body injury, so hopefully that little extra rest will help them. Those guys.

I think we're going to see great on great there. And then obviously we travel over to California for the Rose Bowl, got game day in the morning, and then we'll be field pass ESPN 2 at 4 p.m. Eastern for Alabama, Indiana, favored by 7 against Bama in the Rose Bowl. Well, in the college football playoffs at the Rose Bowl. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's been calling games all season and has done a fantastic job.

Called the Seahawks and the Panthers, excited to get his take on the team that could be the number one scene in the NFC, the Seattle Seahawks, and everything else. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, Bullring of Honor member down there in Houston, future First Ballot Hall of Famer, JJ Wong. Yay, Jay, Jay. Jay, how you doing, pal?

I'm doing great. I was just trying to figure out the math on the travel of that New Year's Eve, 7.30 p.m. Eastern Time game to the Rose Bowl. That is a tight window for you guys. Yeah, you guys is me. I'm the only one that's on game day the next morning, 6 a.m. local time.

I'll certainly be trying to figure it out. Maybe we go lights off super quiet in the plane, boys. I'll definitely be sleeping That is going to be intense I love it That's the issue with me Is I won't on that plane You know I will want to celebrate life

It's New Year's Eve The boys are on a private plane We're living good right now Why the hell would I sleep Well probably because you're gonna have about Two or three hours Whenever you get to California To go ahead and do college game day

From the Rose Bowl Which is ridiculous That you're allowed to be a part of And then noon is when game day ends You got four hours after that Then you're calling Rose Bowl And potential torrential downpour So we get to do this

but yes, it is all very tight and all last minute thrown together here, Jage. All last minute throwing together. Yeah, no, that's, that's, I, listen, it is the best job in the world. You get to talk sports, you get to go to the best venues, you get to do all these great things, you get to hang out with your friends,

you get paid a lot of money for it. Does not preclude, that's not the word. I don't even, I'm not even going to try it. We're still falling. I don't even know. We got the correct word is. We're all there. Does not take away from the fact that that is thoroughly impressive,

from an energy, an effort, a commitment, commitment, a brain power standpoint, just want to tip a cap here because I know some people won't. Okay, we appreciate you, Jage, don't we? Thank you, Jay. We appreciate you, Jage. Thank you, Jake. Happy New Year, Jake.

Spend New Year's Eve with us and New Year's Day and the next day and the next day. And the next day, go ahead. Visually, visually from afar, I will. Oh, I thought you wanted to travel down and call a game with us. I do not. I do not. I mean, the Rose Bowl is my favorite place to play ever, lost there, unfortunately. But it needs to be the national championship, sick of us all dancing,

around it. Everybody wants it. Everybody talks about it. Let's just do it. Best, best atmosphere. Not the best to get in it out of, but best atmosphere in football. Make it the national championship every year. Rose Bowl is iconic. It is beautiful. Kind of not going to get into it, but it is beautiful. It is a beautiful scene.

Getting in and out of it, I think they're going to have to figure that one out. But those mountains? Oh, the sand. San Gabriel. Oh, the Gabriel's. And we're not even going to get to see the cotton candy. No, we're not.

Because I guess the weather, and by the way, thoughts of prayers, everybody dealing with the weather over there in Southern California and across America. Tornado watch last night and warning cut into the game. Saw Mike Fike, right? That was his name. Yeah, I think F-E-I-C-K, Mike Fike. Huh? The weather guy?

Yeah. I think that was his name. Saw him pop up while I was trying to watch that fault. Him having suspenders like this with this side. This guy was all done. The best of all time. Maybe. Maybe the greatest of all time.

What is this? I missed all of this. I missed all of this. I was not playing. There was a tornado watch in Indianapolis, so it obviously cut into the game. Normally, they take over to full screen. So I did appreciate Fox 59, giving us a little halfy there because the Eagles, and it was like a play-through box with Mike Fike on the side of it. But whenever you talk about the Eagles, taking on the bills, it's a very important game.

They're very important game. And me or all just, Fike, knew that. He said, I know you guys won't watch the game. Get your phones out. Watch it on there. Stay away from the windows. I mean, this guy was really hit. on all levels and

had a couple grandstanders respond to my tweet saying like he has to do that as part of law I know that he's not choosing to interrupt the NFL game but I'm just saying in December we got a tornado watch what the hell is going on with the weather I didn't know this was

potentially the case and then last night it felt like my house is going to blow away for the entirety of the evening I mean it was just relentless nonstop went from 60 degrees I think it's getting down to 15 so that northerly wind It was coming through Indiana, caused a lot of hell. But I was introduced to maybe my second favorite meteorologist.

He's probably top five. I don't want to put him up there anywhere near DeNardo. There we go. Because DeNardo is DeNardo. But Adam Fike. Adam Fike. I apologize. That's all.

Larry King, Espos. Yeah, he was great. I like that. He crushed it. Respect it. I don't appreciate the fact that he basically had three minutes worth of stuff. He had to get out there. And they made him do it for 25 minutes.

They said, okay, you got you hit your three-minute mark, and then we're going to restart, do it again. And then do it again. I did appreciate it a couple times. He was like, doesn't really look like this. He kept saying that. Again, not seeing many tornado signatures here. But again, you know, we do have this kind of pocket up here of severe weather.

And he just, he did that on repeat. So all anybody was saying was, well, if you're not seeing it, why the hell is this guy on my TV? Like Adam Fike's making the decision, you know? And we'd like to let him know, thank you for taking advantage of the moment. Adam Fike, you looked incredible. I'm expecting that type of drapes. from anybody that shows up on my TV

doing the weather ever again. Thank you, Adam. It does look like kind of a larger bill, McComis. Is that a hard part in the hair? Is that a hard part? Yes. It wasn't like that before. That's actually the wind.

So it used to just kind of sit flat, but he was trying to showcase what the wind was doing for the tornado watch that was coming. Just got off the boat. Merchant Marine, I believe, is what I looked into. I don't know if the Marines are going to like that. You know, he potentially... Saw a couple built like that.

I don't think so. I don't think so. Sergeant Major literally told us, we don't do, I'm not going to say, you do the weather, we appreciate you. He's the devil dog. No, he's not. No, he's not.

No, he is. You know how I know. I'm just looking. I can tell that that is, let's get to the animal. He grew up an alligator, Connie. Yeah. Adam fights it?

He served eight years. You got a plum? Was he a plum Mustang? He's definitely, De Nardo is definitely his role model. And I appreciate him saying, listen, it's a big game, I get it. I don't want to be here either.

Get your phones out and get away from the windows. Actually, it doesn't look like there's anything that should keep you away from the windows. I don't know why. We're still in the middle of a warning, but I'll tell you why it was crazy. But that means good football is happening. You saw the Seahawks.

Let's talk about this. You had Seahawks Panthers. Is that accurate? That is accurate. Number one seed, potentially, for the Seattle Seahawks team. How do you feel about the squad that McDonald's been able to put together

and what do you think is their superpower over there? Their defense, obviously, outstanding. Sam Donald playing great. Is that their culture, is that their vibes? What do you like about the Seahawks after calling their game? Yeah, I mean, their defense is obviously unbelievable. They started slow in this one, which they also did against the Rams the week before.

Took them a while to get the game going specifically offensively, and then they took advantage of a couple of huge turnovers in Carolina territory in the second half that really sprung board this game and kind of broke it wide open. But their defense is just unbelievable. I think it was like halfway through the third quarter. The Panthers had 16 yards of passing on offense. There was just nowhere to go.

Those de-tackles up front, Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy are so stout on the double teams and they shut down the run. And then they also dominate against the pass. You got E. Manwari on the back end and all those guys Witherspoon, like Mike McDonald's a genius. He dials up so many different things. And then they did find their really. them in the second half. It's just, they have to start a little bit faster, but they have guys

everywhere. And Darnold can do it all. Clint Kubiak draws up some great schemes. I thought the Panthers defense held their own for a while in this game. It was the short fields that ultimately got him and hurt him. And then there was one huge penalty that kind of swung the momentum of the game when the Panthers had him in third and 30 and got a face mask penalty to give an automatic first down that kind of hurt them. Okay. So obviously inopportune penalties, certainly affect an outcome. Seahawks have the Niners on Saturday night. Did you watch last night's epic Sunday night football game of the year? And, you know, obviously two good defenses for the Chicago Bears and the Niners.

Didn't really matter because Purdy and Caleb put on a show, but Purdy has been dialing it up. The last three weeks, he's outstanding. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey dealing with a little bit of back spasm, I think is what I heard, Shepter. He's seemingly still explosive and unstoppable. Then he got guys all over the place making place. Trent Williams with a hamstring, who knows what that looks like going forward. But this Niners team, no Fred Warner, no Bosa, no problem.

Is that what we're thinking for the Niners, JJ? I mean, they are, it's incredible. And I know there's people out there that say Kyle Shanahan in the Coach of the Year category, and we've kind of turned that into a who turned an organization around fast as opposed to, you know, a true coach of the year, which is understandable and rightfully so. But he's done such an incredible job having to go between all the guys that are missing. Missing, Mack Jones, going back to Purdy. I watched the beginning of this game and saw the T.J. Edwards pick six and a couple of the other plays,

went to put my son to bed, came back down, and it was 35, 35, and I was like, what the hell did I miss? Watch the end of the game, and it was, I feel like this is the year of the game of the year. We've had some of the greatest games coming down to the ends this year. There's just, if you were doing an Oscar-style category, it would be very big. difficult to whittle it down to enough to six to put on the screen. Fourth quarters, it's two. So primetime games, fourth quarters, because sometimes these first halves, not last night, but some of these games' first halves have been ass, you know, kind of boring.

A little late night, 930, 10 o'clock, primetime games kind of starting a little bit slow. People fall asleep, myself included. Then you wake up, whatever time you wake up, you look at your phone and you go, what happened last night? And then you find out, oh, most epic fourth quarter of all time. Oh, 17-point comeback. Oh, they were able to get crazy in the second half. It has been a lot of that.

I think the game, the thing that made this one different is from jump, literally pick six to start the entirety of it all. And the energy never relented, D. Bud. Yeah, it was unbelievable offense. The one that I can remember most recently would probably be the Seattle Rams one with the two-point play. Like that was a wild game, unbelievable game. Yeah, this has definitely been the year of the great game for sure.

Good for the NFL. Yeah, got the Packers, Bears. I mean, there's so many. It's insane how many that they've been. It's, yeah. JJ, Vikings, Vikings, Bears, was that 40? Yeah, week one. Yeah, week one or week two.

Bill's Patriots a couple weeks ago, Josh Allen coming back down 21-0. Yes. Texas Jack. 26 straight. Texas Jags, yeah. Oh, Danny Dimes only didn't punt for like five weeks, remember? Every game was the game of the year. Good times, man.

There's been some, I mean, like, that game last night was obviously awesome because you've got the coaches, a mastermind. The people, like, you can just see so many different mind games going on within the game. I think that there's been some really, really good coaching matchups this year, showcasing a lot of skill on the sideline. We mentioned, or I mentioned there, and Purdy just filthy. I mean, in the doggie, in the Euro step into the doggie. Keep doing it, Purdy.

Keep doing it, Purdy. We need more of that, not less of that. I'm excited that he's coming into his own. And obviously, he's a wealthy man at this point. And I think he gave away Toyotas. as his gift, but also I think the vets as well. How do you feel about the quarterback gift thing that we got going on? A lot of ads, okay, a lot of ads, which I respect that it has become an ad-based thing.

I don't think that's necessarily the quarterback's fault. Quarterback gifts to the offensive line has been a thing since the beginning of football, I assume. I'm not 100% sure I'm not a quarterback. But then it becoming like a sponsored event almost, I don't hold it against the quarterbacks because if I was being offered up, and this is not to his offensive line, this is the vets. Shout to Brock Pretty doing this. But to quarterbacks buying things for their offensive line,

it has become an interesting little game, Jage. It has become an interesting little game. And the fact that Joe Burrow bought something that was not sponsorable, okay, fossils. I like the move. I think that was a statement about like, hey, I bought these. Like, I think that was Joe Burrough saying, I bought these things. Your thoughts, D. Bud? I wouldn't say that.

Okay. I don't know. You think big dino's giving away fossils to Joe Burrow? I don't think, mate, I don't think it's a borough statement. I just think he's been, he's a different. He's a different. We win six games when I get Bones. There are any part of it, like, looking across being like, man, do those guys just get four by fours?

Did those guys just get pickup trucks? Like, this is really cool. Bones! Fossils! Please, have some respect for these dinosaurs. I'm sure Ted Karras loved it. Ted Karras is a jovial, jovial. you'll lad. If I see

someone getting a truck in a four-by-four and I got to take home a freaking mammoth tooth. What about a quarter of a cow? I think a quarter of a cow is also sick. Okay. Remember last year. It's Cindy Louu man. It's Cindy Lou Who. We're all doing it at every level. Some of us with our own kids, some with their offensive lines.

It's all commercialism. Who can have the most? And now you're sitting there trying to figure it out. The brands are calling. It's corporate. I don't hate them for taking it. I've done my fair share of endorsements in dads over the year. I can't hate on anybody for that. But is that where are we at? Is an offensive line going to get a house in the next five years? Coldwell Banker coming through. Just guys, whole neighborhoods are ours. Here's your keys.

I mean, there's a chance. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Let's start to go ahead and paying for some stuff. Guys, we need to create the chemistry. We're all in the same cul-de-sac. Look at five partners, five houses. I'm at the end, on the corner. The O-line chemistry compound where you buy just 10 ranch homes, you know, no family's welcome. You got to live behind the center. The lineup is actually center, guards, tackles, backups are right behind them. Obviously, bigger the yard for the starters.

Something to think about building a whole compound. Then investment money, obviously, into it so we can sell this later to another builder. If these guys want to really be good teammates, this is what they should be doing. Yeah, Bonding. Oh, fossils. It's got to happen.

They're fossils. It's not like you're out on the fossils. I'm surprised. Imagine walking in. him being like Joe Burrow, big fashion guy I'm gonna get a Louis Vuitton suit or bones. Last year it was the swords.

Last year it was the samurai. This year is the fossils. They're building like a museum in their houses. You stay there long enough. We're gonna have the Smithsonian. I like that he's thinking outside the box. What does he ate?

Yeah. Grow up. Samurai swords and dinosaurs. It stinks every year. Oh my God. Gump is first thing? I haven't seen. Do we have a picture of any of them?

Like is it like a T-Rex tooth? Like, what kind of fossil is? So, Ted Carr has got a, like, a mammoth tusk. And then, I believe, that's cool. That is cool. What are you doing? That's the whole head. Huh?

The whole head. Well, I've seen the rock. And the rock has a T-Rex head. Is that what Joe's given up? That's fake. No, it's not. The rocks is fake. See, look at that.

Look at that. Look at that. That's what you're going to have to deal with now. Hey, this is my, my mammoth tusk that Joe Burrow got me for Christmas on your. Yeah, okay, Ted, okay. Take, where are your hot wheels, too? Let's go play with those, Ted. I'm sure you believe in that.

Probably just gave it to his dog to chew on. Here's a picture of the Tusk. Everybody will think it is true and real. That is cool. Oh, yeah. Merry Christmas. That might be worth $200,000. That is not cool.

Nice bones, Ted. Not cool. Leave that under your pillow for the tooth fairy, too? I didn't see that one. That was stinks. I thought it was like a T-Rexstander. What about a side-by-side, though? Aaron Scott

Yeah, boom. Exactly. That one to the right. There was a mini, there was a mini head. That was cool. Look at the, look at the mini head.

Yeah. That's cool. Joe kept that for himself. Ted got home with this thing and threw that fucker in the corner of his garage. No, he did not. As a dinosaur,

I went to the children's museum this weekend. They got some good bones. They got some good bones. I don't want to let you know. Ted, we appreciate Joe, I appreciate that Joe spent his own money on this stuff. Not that everybody else isn't doing it. Well, actually,

know if he was done a big museum he may have dug him up himself what do we know like joe could have dug these up in the offseason true i mean very valid he could have cleaned these things frame these things did the whole thing so we appreciate that any gifts are being given it's a holiday season it's very kind but i'll tell you what the boys hopping in those side by sides oh that had to feel so cool with that garage kind of opening up what's that it did his own archaeological dig he was out in the middle of egypt just digging up bones would you be shocked i wouldn't be shocked Me either. That would add such a cool layer to the story.

I feel like it would take a long time. Connor, would you rather have that Galactica game in the background or the whole table of bones? I mean, you just nailed it. Yeah, give me the arcade game, Joe. I don't want your stupid bones, okay? I want something that I can actually have fun doing. What am I just going to stare at my bone for three hours? No.

Let alone. Change, there was no reason to do what you just. did right there. Okay, you knew it. You knew what you were doing the whole time. Joe Burrow, thank you for thinking about your teammates. Maybe. Maybe you got those for someone else and he was like, shit, nobody wants

these. I guess I give them to my line, man. Yeah, these guys suck anyway. They didn't have these stupid-ass dinosaur both. Missing. What do you guys in each other? Do you guys do gifts? Yeah, we hang out with each other every day. It's a good present. Presence. Oh, the gift that keeps on giving. Every day.

Every day. You got New Year's Eve night together, New Year's Day together, the next day together. Is anybody's significant others ever like, hey, this is a lot? Yeah. I would assume that that is happening in a lot of houses. Just by my personal research. Okay, I would assume. And shout to Sam, love you, baby.

Absolutely love you. And McKenzie, you know, it's amazing. But, yeah, there's a lot. Christmas, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. You guys are doing it. We're there Christmas. And I saw you went in on the day after. After Christmas, you were like, I had to stop in and pick up some stuff.

I'm like, is anybody ever like, you're going in on the one day you don't have to be there and you're still going in? First of all, you know, always, okay, always, which is a part of the problem. And I do understand that. But wife, absolute badass. And, you know, we're pregnant right now. She's pregnant right now. Babe Bambino.

Every once in a while there's going to be days where you're a little sick, you know, might have some things. So me getting out of the house, probably good move for about an hour or two. You know what I mean? So then getting back in there. But yes, we enjoy the hell out of what we do, but we do a lot of it, you know, somebody has to, somebody gets to. And it's us somehow. Oh, yeah.

I have no idea how that's the case. We're incredibly lucky to do it. That's JJ. That's AJ. The boys are here. We continue digitally. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice, Jage. Might change your life.

Wow. Wow. Nailed that. Best one yet. Oh, oh, a little party. He's a little party. And 2025 on a high note, baby. Yeah, baby.

Let's do it. I'll tell you what, you're becoming a full television broadcaster like that. With the finger point, too, on the throwout. That was pretty good. That was a pretty natural out of you. Hey, how tall are you? What's your weight? What's your dims?

Six feet, six inches, 272 pounds. Just a Goliath of a brand. Josh Hines-Allen. Have you seen Josh Hines-Land? You and him, I, right? Huh? I mean, that's like... Yes.

Yep, met with them a couple weeks ago. Great player, big dude. What is that guerrilla or God, Godzilla and Kong Kong that is when you two are looking at he was bigger than everybody like he was bigger than everybody on the field he was unbelievable I had no idea he was that large I genuinely had no idea until I mean what do you think of like the Forrest Buckner well he hasn't played much because he's got hurt neck and I am very worried about the Forrest Buckner because he played and then now he's not playing again that means did something bad happen would like to let the force sauce procedure we appreciate the hell out of the Forrest Buckner we love the forest Buckner we love the forest Buckner, thank you for your service, and we hope you come back to play football, but any time you're talking neck is crazy. But yeah, DeForest Buckner, big. But DeForest Buckner, middle of the line,

you know, so I'm not watching. Like, Josh Heinz Allen, we're seeing him do, like, little guy's shit. And it's like, I don't think in my head I had him pegged as the biggest fucker on the field, you know, just by watching his film. He's gigantic. He is.

The most impressive recently physical specimen I've seen is Daniel Hunter. He is as like if you were building it in a lab Daniel Hunter is it it's unbelievable Okay on that note go ahead Ty Yeah jage after Saturday night When it looked like the Texans were about to beat the chargers by just a hundred

And the offense started to look pretty good We obviously know how good their defense is Do you think they're the scariest team in the AFC right now Going into the playoffs I mean I think they're going to be hard pressed To find a team that would prefer to play them Over some of these other teams I think their defense just being what

it is. Their offense finally starting to really figure it out and come together. They've said all season long that Nick Cayley, C.J. Stroud, they're trying to find exactly what the identity of the offense is going to be and get everything to click. And they're starting to find that, which is dangerous. It's the perfect time to start it. And their defense is what's kept them in it all year long to allow the offense time to figure it out. They are nasty. They are tough. They are physical. They take the ball away. They hit you in the mouth. They wear you down all game long. So I don't think many people are going to want to see them, and I'm looking forward to

seeing how far they can go, because I think that, you know, this, it's an organization that's never been to the AFC championship game, obviously never been to the Super Bowl, and I think this city would go absolutely bananas if they were able to do it. And CJ's got it. CJ's got it in there, you know, if he needs to, third and long, we need one, fourth and 12, we need one, he can make the play. We assume they all can. Anybody can win it this year?

Kind of everybody's conversation. Patriot's really the most dominant team in the entire NFL, but they might not even get the number one seed in the AFC. The Broncos could get it. And just to go back a couple minutes. Ted Karris sent over the photo, okay? And that is a woolly mammoth tusk. That's 30,000 years old.

Okay? Does that change anybody's opinions? No. That thing was late. I'm on record saying the Tusk is cool. Okay. I'm on record. We're trying to bring it back.

They're trying to bring Wood mammoth back. Whatever's behind it. There's a T-Rex head in that picture. Someone got that. They won. That's a baby T-Rex, it appears. Okay. That's cool.

This is real. Why can't you kill a baby? Well, I don't think, I think these things potentially died all one time. We don't know. We don't know. Allegedly. Allegedly. Were you there?

Were you there? What's the thing behind, directly behind? Because that thing looks like it stinks. The rat, oh, like on the table behind? You mean, yeah, everything on the table behind? That little thing. That little thing. Did somebody get just that?

Yeah, yeah. One person, they showed up one by one. I believe it was seniority picks first and then went down the line. And whoever was last ended up with like, yeah, elephant poop or something that was fossilized. Okay, so then this one, the mammoth tusk, woolly mammoth tusks, permafrost deposits in Yakasha, Russia. Okay. So dinosaurs are in Russia. Dinosaurs are all over the place.

Oh, great. It's a spot. Although I was not there, AJ. Would have destroyed the room that I was in. Are you shitting me, Joe? You're making $250 million a year. I got bones. Get me something cool, Joe.

You just spent $10 million on a Batmobile, and I get bones? What a joke, man. I just found out, I'd request a train. Bones that spy on you as well. We don't know if this is a Russian oligarchy. It's certainly possible. This can't be discounted. Don't get me started on the birds over there.

All right, let's keep moving. Let's keep moving. I appreciate. the fossils as a gift I think it's very thoughtful and the baby T-Rex over there I didn't know they came in that size okay I've never seen I've only seen them in the big sense

that thing was paper for she but they popped out of the womb full full bore Joe just made it happen did you know were you there Jage do you know were you over there I mean I assumed that they they were babies and eggs and then were grown yeah I did not think that the eggs came full size

I've never seen it I've never seen it So, just like Jesus, I don't want to get into it, but I've only seen him as an adult, I think, and baby. He's probably so handsome my sims through his teenage years. Oh, yeah, there's a couple, you know, still shots of, like, when the tax collectors were set up in the temple, and he went in there, he was like, uh-uh, fuck this bullshit. And he started flipping tables over.

Oh, really? Vascularity, I assume. First ever. Big time. First ever vascularity. I'll tell you. That's amazing to think about it. He had a crew cut, too.

That was before he had the long hair. Oh, in the middle. He was in one of those middle stages. on it. Hey, look up how much that Louis Mavis Tusk will go for. Like, someone might pay $200K for that.

At least. Somebody did last week. Yeah, exactly. They got the president and said, oh, thank goodness, I'm going to sell this, and that'll be my present. My present will be what I get for cash for this.

Boom. It's a fossil. I like the Joe's in the holiday spirit. Me too. Unique. Yeah, yeah. Somebody's calling him Boohoo borough, so I'm glad that, you know, he was

he wasn't called for. It does seem like your Algo. is pitching a lot of... I'm curious about this. Oh, woolly mammoths, tusks. Values vary from a few hundred dollars, okay, for a few small fragments, to tens of thousands, even over 100,000.

This might be the best investment they've ever made. Joe Burroughs giving them stock, basically. Joey Burroughs giving them a collectible. Joey B says, hey, hang on to this thing in about five years, a couple hundred thousand. Wait, wait, wait. A rare 100 pound, nine foot. Tusk might be $67,000

grand. That sucker ain't 100 pounds and it definitely ain't nine feet. You don't know. That might be 15. The best thing you can do with the gift is sell it. It's a bad gift. No, it's an investment. People get people stocks all the time. That's something you can do. You're trying to sell that thing at the end.

It could go down to the worst quarterback gift ever. Look at that video of Aaron giving out those gifts. Those guys are having the best time of their life. Yeah. The Niners linemen? Holy shit. We got trucks. Where do you stop on the trucks or the four-by-fours?

So you got the starting five, like, is the guy that signed to the practice squad last week? Is he getting one? Or is he just kind of awkwardly in the corner? Where is the line? I think you're telling a couple of them that they need to wait in the cafeteria. The boys and I need to go take a trip out there. Yeah, start a meeting, 53-man meeting right now. What's your number?

Exactly. You stay. Here's a $500 target gift card. Congratulations. It's an interesting one. For those big ones. DoorDash. For those big gifts?

Like, it's really interesting. Where that cutoff line? Got to go the whole way. What do we think is happening? We think half, they're paying half for these things? Because it's still a lot of money. I mean, those things are like $25 grand a pot. Like $30,000?

At least, yeah, I would say at least half. I would say more than half. I don't think it's as much as everybody thinks that they get off. I think so, too. Me even bringing it up like, well, it's an advertisement, I feel like I'm undervaluing how much they're actually spending on each one. They might get a discount, like a good discount.

Like, hey, can we make a video that we're doing this? And I think probably the local dealership there in Pittsburgh was a part of it because I think he shouted it out. That local dealership isn't just giving up 12 of these things for free. You know, yeah, give us a social media post. Still spending a lot of money on these gifts. But I do like that it has become a little bit of,

hey, you got an epic thing. Can we, and then you'll, boom, perfect. Because back in the day, it used to be a lot of watches. I think guys got a lot of watches. Better than Bones. Let's go through this. A lot of Bags.

A lot of Louie and Gucci. Better than Bones. I mean, there's going to be hard pressed to find. Jetskis? Who's in not Jetskis? That's a great game. I've seen jet skis in the past, I feel like. What wasn't it?

Was it Adrian Peterson who gave all of his linemen in Minnesota like snowmobiles? It's because Minnesota's, I'm pretty sure he did that. If you're going to go out and get him yourself. Okay. So on that note of Adrian Peterson, O.J. Simpson, I believe, had five 200-yard games. Adrian Peterson had six 200-yard games. And after Saturday, the Baltimore Ravens running back, Derek Henry had seven 200-yard games. Most in history.

Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Jage, obviously, you know, Derek Henry, former Titan, you former Texan. What is it like when you're playing a guy like Derek Henry? and I say a guy like Derek Henry, but there's no one like him. So what is it like playing Derek Henry when he is rolling like that? He was unstoppable on Saturday night. He keeps the Raven season alive and causes this week 18 Sunday night football showdown against Pittsburgh. But can you just talk a little bit about Derek Henry and some of your battles you guys had in the division back in the day?

Yeah, it's not fun. It's not fun at all. And I can tell you the thing that's crazy, I mean, everybody knows. that obviously the discussion after last week was very loud about it. But the thing about Derek Henry is early in the game, he may not even get rolling huge, but you just keep feeding him regardless because of the wear and tear it puts on a defense throughout the game. Having to tackle him over and over and over again, where is the entire defense down by the third and fourth quarters, and then he can pop off even more big runs.

So that's what gets frustrating. I mean, we've called a couple of Ravens games this year. you see them and yeah, they fall behind a little bit so they think you got to go to the air a little bit more. But the reality of the situation is you just keep feeding the beast. And at some point, it's going to pop. And at some point, it's going to demoralize the defense and wear them down. And he is going to have his way. You watch that Packers game and it's like, yeah, that's what happens. And it's such a, you know, for them, it's such an unfortunate stark contrast from the week before where like, why didn't you just do that? Because it's,

don't make it so complicated. Just do the stuff that's been successful. for so long in the Ravens offense is the most successful when they have that run game rolling and they're running those complex run schemes that mess with defenses and Derek Henry's running wild. 200 plus yards, four

touchdowns, one Lambot. I think I might be on two of those. In the 200 yard games? I think I might be, I think I might be a minimum of two. So what was it? Your team just quit? I think that's the thing like Adrian Peterson and I said this earlier so

I don't want to act like it's my first time saying it, but I never really watched O.J. play of seeing him run. But the Adrian Peterson and Derek Henry running styles are, like, very punishing. Like, they are beating you up. So you can see how if he was to get 130 yards, he's probably getting 150 yards, which is probably getting 200 yards. And if it was five quarters, probably going to be getting 300, 400 yards. Because I think his fourth quarter stats are outrageous, too.

Like, to your point about just keep feeding him, he's going to beat you down. it's like he really can get a team to quit, make business decisions? Like what is it about it whenever he gets rolling, Jage? Yeah, the thing that I've always said about playing him, and I think a lot of teams say this, is you have to stop him in the backfield. Otherwise, that momentum going downfield and the ability, like once he's through the line of scrimmage, it's over.

He's stiff arming people. He's running over people. He's running away from people. You have to try and stop him before he gets that downfield momentum going. And so like a couple of the games that we had again, them. You let him through that line of scrimmage. I think he had a 96-yard touchdown on like the first drive of the game against

us and boom, you're already halfway to 200 yards after the first drive of the game and it's just he's it's that rare combination that he can break through it, he can run over you and then he can run away from you. Like a lot of these guys that can run through you or stiff arm you down to the ground

aren't having that breakaway speed where they can get out in the open and run away from everybody. He has both and it's unbelievable and it's so hard to stop. But the key is you have to penetrate the backfield and stop his feet before they get going downfield north and south. We said it was cheating that he signed with the Ravens because obviously you do your E equals MC squared squared. I don't know what the 22nd would be in the math terms. So the 22nd power. Okay, boom, thank you. And how do I do that on my phone? I don't know how to put

the two up there. Is there a button I can push to get the- Hold it down. Hold it down. Hold it down. what, the C? The two. The two, and then it will help you put it up there. It'll shoot it up there. It doesn't do that. It does that for the degrees, if you do zero. Okay.

It doesn't do it for... The little arrow button. The little arrow up top, like if you're going to do that on the calc button, like that is what would symbolize the to the power. That feels like it's so 1999, do we not have... Yeah, you got a text instrument. The Apple calculator fucking sucks. Anyways, this guy could light up a room for...

90 seconds with how powerful he has, the amount of energy he could create with the amount of jewels that he has, which he's 5,500. Now, it'd be 45-90-mile-hour fastballs all at the same time, okay? It'd be a 2,000-pound vehicle moving at 8 miles an hour, and there you are just staying in front of it with no brakes. Okay, this will be fun. That is Derek Henry football. Jage has been there, done that.

That's why I respect him. Age, did you play Derek Henry whenever he was rolling? I never played. Nope, never played Derek. I'm very happy I never played Derek Kennedy, but Jage is right. If you don't get penetration up front and make him, like, reset his feet and go east to west in the backfield, you're screwed. He's coming downhill on everybody. Adrian Peterson you had, though, right, for years. Yeah, yeah, that was fun.

Honestly, because we talked about it being a cheat code when he went to Baltimore because he had Patrick Ricard. There, too, is like 320-pound defensive end. But back in the day, whenever it was CTE football, like you guys were playing up there in the NFC North. I mean, Adrian Peterson, I assume he had some fullback as well that was coming through there. Always. They were trying to kill you. officer they were trying to beat you up i mean that's what they were trying to do and you just had to stare it down every single time yeah that's when you're uh you got to play a old school

cliche like hey we got to be gap sound nobody can peek you got to all we got to we got to build a wall up front and count on people counting on all 11 guys getting to the ball to bring this dude down oh geez geez look how violent adrian run just look at like he runs it's a whole body convulsion i have so much respect for him honestly i love that So, okay, so tell me this. Willie Gay was 1-7. He tried. Yeah, he definitely tried.

We appreciate him doing that. But everybody's reaction being, geez, to that highlight, popping up right there is special. But, Edge, I know you're big Ohio football guy. Okay, I know that. And, Jage, you as well, fresh out of Wisconsin. We're big tough guys. Night before those types of games, you know, like, hey, tomorrow I'm in it. Like, literally, tomorrow we are.

Not that you weren't in practice with Kuhn, because you guys have told us neither of you would turn it down. but anytime you're playing Adrian Peterson or Derek Henry it's a mindset too like hey we got a fucking this is going to be big jump don't let him get going yeah it's like hey don't let this guy get going especially if you're on the road and say the first series they didn't rip off like a 8 yard or 12 yard or 25 yarder then they get the crowd behind them and then it's just like all right here we go that's when guys start you start um you start doing things you know what normally do

guys jump out of a gap like okay this guy the de lineman I got a shade he's supposed to be in the A gap oh he might think this time hey maybe i just peek into that B gap and then everyone behind him it's like a you know a domino effect everyone behind you doesn't know what to do and then all of a sudden the rest of the game you're sitting there trying to communicate and figure out what to do you're the one peeking jade stop peeking dude that's the fact yes i let everybody behind me figure it out that's what nice nice part about being up front i didn't do it and you guys figure it out that's good that would play off you if you do it if you're decisive yeah you guys behind you will play off of it absolutely i'm with you i was very decisive i was very decisive i was very

How about Jay's going? How is that right? I'm fucking going. Yeah, you've got to figure that up. That's the fact. Play fast. AJ, make it right. And if the night before, if you're that free safety, like, you're not worried about, you know, X going deep and getting off that.

You're worried about 22 or 28 hitting the A or B gap coming straight down. It's just you and them in nine yards between you two. That is a fucking nightmare. That's the fear. That's like what up front we're like, do not let them get on the safeties because that's a loss. You could have the best safety in the world At some point he is going to stiff Arm or run over the top of him

That's just a fact So up front we're like dude We have to stop this or it is a problem Let's talk about up front There might be somebody on the move If you listen to Jay Glazer What did Jay Glazer say about situation in Las Vegas What did he have?

Scoopage basically Max Crosby is fucking pissed at the Raiders Then he wants out of town Okay so I don't know if that was the exact report But Jay Glazer Fucking Welcome back We like whenever Jay is mixing it up And if Jay's going to start mixing it up during a playoff run here, we fucking love that, Jay.

But he said, basically, Max Crosby, who's been playing through some stuff, was told, hey, you can't play, they wouldn't clear him. You need to get knee surgery in the offseason, just can't do it. He got upset, left the building. Pete Carroll was asked about it. Pete Carroll mentions, you know, something along the lines of we've been talking about this for a while now. Now, go ahead, DeBud. Yeah, with the Condor, I just want to know, did you deal with any situations like this?

I know everybody's kind of banged up week 17, week 18. A lot of people can opt out and get surgeries and sitting down obviously a competitor like this. Have you ever dealt with something like this in your career? What's your thoughts on Max and his future? I haven't dealt with that exact thing. I definitely have been a part of, you know, some teams that were out of it at the end and teammates and seen some situations where there were decisions made in that light. But clearly he's trying to show in these videos.

that he's fine. He wants you to know that he's fine. And also, I'm just with everybody else in the internet, trying to figure out why he has advertisements on the boards in his own house. I think there's a chance somebody else is paying for that gym that he has in there. It's a beautiful gym. Looks like it's a couple million bucks. A new era, Papa John's, anybody else want to kind of get in on it? Maybe somebody else foot the bill for him. Or he just wants it to look legit, so he puts some ads on the pad. It was great. but I mean it sucks like he's he's a guy who's such a great player he's stuck in a very tough situation there I mean if you literally just look at the contract that he signed last year

he could have signed a significantly better contract I mean it is he that was a very team friendly deal when you look at the play that he's had and the leverage that he had that he did not use which to his credit he was taking that deal for that reason he wanted to get it done early. Great. But that is a deal that could have been significantly better for him. He's back in the building. Ian Rappaport is reporting that Raiders coach Pete Carroll says Max Crosby is back in the building today. Okay, everybody wanted to chitch out about him not being in building and him being pissed off. And Pete Carroll said, I knew he'd be pissed off. Any competitor wants to play, you know, with what we got going on, what he fought through. He did the classic

Pete Carroll. Boy, I don't like, I don't like seeing Pete Carroll like this. It's not how I'm to remember Pete Carroll. Okay, I will everybody know that. No. This is not. Not how I'm in a... USC, Seattle. Having fun. For sure. Spinning it. You know, Will Ferrell's coming to practice.

Snoop dogs there. They're doing shit in a team meeting. Like, that is how I'm in Seattle, alongside the water there where he's running, having them compete through the music thing. Like that... I don't know what you're talking about. That's...

Because they pan over the walls, so... That ain't real. That came out that that was not necessarily a hundredth century. There are some Legion of Boom tributes and some other. I remember religion to boom fuck are you kidding me camp chancellor that was the best Pete Carroll the gumfrew were from Vegas

no he was originally well he's with New England why he was with you guys no no no he was that's like that's like Petino with the Celtics that never happens when was Petino with the Celtics that's what I'm saying okay that's what we're doing with Vegas with Pete

that's what we're doing that the only thing I'm gonna remember from Pete Carroll's entire tenure Vegas No, don't do that to Pete Carroll Fuck Pete Carroll Is he gone for sure after this? You think he's gone for sure? I don't know, man.

One and done is crazy decisions. Only had a three-year contract. Most of these coaches that are with their teams it's four or five years, right? He only signed a three-year joke because he's old. It was kind of flipped the culture. He flipped the culture. He flipped it so much

so he pissed Max Crosby off and now he wants to leave. Okay, Max Crosby's back in a building. Let's remember that. And they are potentially staring down a full rebuild. Going to have to get a new quarterback. Geno Smith, obviously, I'm a big fan of. It didn't work out out there. Fired all the coordinators.

I mean, you're just... Not all the coaches, though. His boy is still the old-I-coach. So... Mendoza, though. Hey, the Mendoza, Vegas stuff that's cooking on the Internet right now. Keep it going.

It's amazing on the Internet. They're going to try to get Mendoza down to Miami, I think. Could you imagine Mendoza as quarterback from Miami Dolphins? Speaks perfect Spanish. I mean, the whole thing. And he's a guy. From down there. And if it was McDaniel's offense,

we think Mendoza would be able to figure it out, right? How are we going to get him? Is he going to... Spin you or is spinning it, right? Raiders are, I mean, they are full-blown... I swear, I saw the offensive line do an entire Sunshine move and just let Gino get fucking bubbled

on a third down. I am almost sure that happened yesterday. Okay. Well, Pete Carroll needs to get a tightened up over there. You know, and Max Crosby's back in the building. He's going to get surgeries, what everybody's saying? who knows what building he goes into next speaking of buildings. One could look

very different next year, especially if there's a loss in Sunday night football. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jage. How many defensive MEPs do you have? Three. Okay. So teams probably game planned around you a few times. Did you ever think to yourself during a game, oh,

tell you what, they don't care about winning this game. They're just trying to stop me. And I asked this question because there was a large sentiment of the internet yesterday who said the Steelers, care about stopping Miles Garrett and the sack record. They didn't care about making the playoffs. So did you ever feel that way?

And I'm sure it's Monday, so I doubt you've seen the tape yet, but how do you feel about that sentiment? Yeah, I mean, it's a, if you're trying to stop the best player on the team from getting sacks, that's generally the way to try and win the game. What would be the alternative? Let them get sacks? you don't get it. You don't get it. Trying to score.

Aaron was throwing, he threw his third, I think, fastest of the season, and Miles Garrett was chipped the eighth most this season. I mean, that would be my strategy. Yeah, like that. He's a game record. He destroys the game. The Steelers have an undrafted free agent tackle who's first time playing Miles Garrett. So they should have been one-on-one.

No, the Steelers didn't want to win the game and make the playoffs. They wanted Sunday night football. week they need to be bigger. So they said, Molly doesn't get the sack record. Let's just get the Sunday night football for the last one. But on that note... I mean, if you look at the Steelers all year long,

Aaron's got... He gets the ball out of his hands faster and anybody else in the whole league. That's what he does. That's what he's done all season long. And, yeah, I mean, of course, they don't want Miles to get the record. That's...

That's in a rivalry. That's exactly how they're going to do it. But, I mean, trying to comprehend the first sentence you said where they try to... They care more about that than the win. I'm just saying, like, if you let the game wrecker wreck the game, you're not going to win. Now, they didn't do a lot of other good things, it seems. I haven't watched a tape yet.

I saw the final drive. That was a lot of passion. Certainly interesting. But I think that the way to win the game is to not let the best player win the game for them. Yeah, you take care of the game. Normally, you have your best shot to win the game. So maybe one comes with the other, is what everybody around ball is saying about Miles Garrett? Miles said it as well, too.

So I'm, I don't know, it must have been something about. He said what? They were more concerned with him getting a sack? To an extent they were more worried about keeping me away from Aaron than getting the win. Let's hear it in his words. I believe him. To an extent, I feel like they were more worried about keeping me away from Aaron than, you know, getting the win. And I think that's what came back to the bottom.

So, you know, they'll have to, you know, fight it out with Baltimore next week. But I'm just proud of the guys for fighting and getting this win. That's the main thing. and I'm always going to keep it up. Miles, I don't, you know ball better than me, Miles Garrett. I think a lot of teams are going to try to keep you away from their quarterback in an attempt to win the game, especially if he's going to... No, obviously not. Yeah, he's a half a sack away from the record.

Yeah. They've only won, what, four games? To Debutt's point, actually, the Patriots, part of their strategy was like, hey, we're going to let Miles Garrett get five sacks, and then we're going to beat him by 20. And that's what they fucking did. Boom. Maybe that's it. Let that guy eat. And then guess what everyone else is going to do?

Then beat everybody else. Not eat. What if that becomes the bloop? Nobody else can eat is what Connor is saying. Only one meter. So if that becomes the way to beat the Browns and they're just letting Miles get five sacks a game. Holy shit, this record's only lasting.

So he's got one week to get this record, right? Yeah. What's the number? 22 and a half? Yes. So he would have to get the 23. Where's he at right now? 22.

He's at 22. Yeah. 22, right? Yeah. Needs one. He's at 22. needs one to get the next year if this is the way to beat them

is you just let Miles Garrett get all the sacks I think so 50 sacks by week 10 that's what I'm saying this what is this 2 and 8 yeah yeah it's weird though because the Steelers beat them earlier in the season and Miles didn't have a sack in that game either so I'm just confused by the strategy what they were doing then you know

they only gave up two sacks yesterday it's not like they were like quadrupled team but did you see Aaron when he got sat did you see how quick he turned around He's so pissed. Even fucking Nance. Darren is the sack of the quarterback. Jim Nance thought he had it.

Yeah, he thought he had it. Browns aren't going to an end. The first game is a great point from the back there. I think it was Nick. So, yes. Thank you, Josh. That's such a great point. I mean, I don't know.

Joe Thomas tweeted it. There was a lot of people out there. You guys, what I've learned today is you guys are on a ball. That's a fun little fact we picked up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We'll talk to all of you later about something you might know about because we're talking ball right now.

Bones. Jay. That was a woolly mammoth tuss from Russia. Well, funny enough, I just scrolled through the fucking, the auction thing of all the woolly mammoth stuff. Half of it's fucking bullshit.

What do you mean? Half of it's fucking bullshit. I mean, we read that a pair of them might be a million bucks. A pair of them's like fucking $65,000. What are we talking about? $65,000 tusk is what? Joe Burroughs gifting people?

I'm saying we have no idea. It's more than a can I am. I don't know about that. He said a pair. That looked like only one. He said a pair. Yeah. That looked like a single.

So that's a sub-species. That's also a subspecies, which there's not a lot of these. That's a dwarf. That's just a little one. Yeah, that's a cute little moot. Is that a baby? That looks almost identical. That's a waggoo.

Almost identical. That looks way cooler. That 15 G's at the bottom looks very similar. I'd venture to guess Burrow spent a hundred bucks on each of these in game yeah yeah maybe a couple scratchy yeah couple scratches yeah 15 sounds right 15 sounds right 15 k that feels like it's in the ballpark like just the backup does flaco get him stuff too right because he played for a decent amount yeah flacco gets some good shit because he's got a clue yeah man burrow had him hold their bones as he played chopsticks on his piano what is everybody's

problem this is a good thoughtful gift of fossil nobody else he's where the borough burial session come from. Oh, he's been going to boo-hoo, burrow. I haven't been calling that. People on the internet have been saying boo-who burrow. And I said, whoa. He don't have to go. We don't have to call Boo-Burrow. And he's not boo-hooing anymore.

He's got a-beak of the record. That's where it is this week, isn't it? That's who it's against. Oh, no. Yeah, Burrow's just going to throw the ball at Garrett. Did you guys happen to see the clip of flacko on the sideline by chance? It's going down. Yes.

He said it's frozen. He was happy. well that might have been the first time he heard about getting the bone you're right just taking back holy fuck a woolly mammoth for rushes a bill see it jage I could drink water out of us

jage doesn't like that we were burying the the fossils I want to let you know I am in an interesting spot now on all the fossil talk at the beginning I was a big fan of it now I'm trying to wonder what I would have done with it there was a time the Colts would get Christmas gifts for all the players

does that happen everywhere age I don't believe so definitely not green beds like ownership or yeah I think so yeah it was ownership like what kind of gift what would you get Xbox they got us oh all that stuff yeah TV was one year

it was a really it was awesome like making a bowl game the first it was like a ball gift it was like a bowl gift it was like a bowl gift first one though was meat just all meat just the first one we got was just a shit ton of meat

and I remember being so bummed up but like so happy That's what Josh Allen got his line I know I was 22 23 years old Like I didn't have I was fucking living in an apartment Like I wanted to share What am I was doing this exactly? Is this fit on the George Foreman or not

Yeah exactly Exactly but like it was an older team So they all those guys love So it was like a great gift Like I was like thoughts myself Like that's a great gift I hope I get to the age Where the gift comes and I like it

And then the next year it was like a TV or something I'm like Now we're talking now we're playing again It's not easy getting gifts for people though Like, it's not easy to get something. Especially rich people, especially rich young people that have a lot of great things already. Yeah, especially because, you know, the different ages and different life. Different interests.

Yeah, everything. So, like, the fossil one is certainly outside the box. But I assume everybody was like, man, fucking nobody from all walks of life, all ages, all demos, all religions, whatever. They all said, nobody's ever fucking thought about getting me a fossil. Now, the side-by-side does hit with everybody from my understanding. as I've seen. Trucks. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt.

Hey, Jay. All right. He did myself right out of the conversation. Well, we missed you. Obviously, we covered it in much more detail. You missed a lot. And on that note, great work today, Jage. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.

Yep. Great. What's your problem? I have no problem at all. I'm doing fantastic over here. Do you have any eyes or phones, Jage? You have any of these? around?

What do you collect? What are things? What do you? It seems like a gift to get from winters. Oh, got him. That's good. That's a good one. Yeah.

No, I mean, I don't have anything like good. You're playing pickleball. There's billionaires, right? I'm a big mug guy. I like coffee mugs. I like coffee mugs. So places I go, I like to collect coffee mugs that I'm meaning my wife and I like to give them as gifts to each other.

So very simple, but coffee mugs. No, I like coffee. I'm into coffee now. I'm into coffee now. I've become a full-on coffee person. And it's a nice little culture, a little community. Little coffee community is a real thing. Yeah, she's got them from everywhere. That pops in the military, so they travel a bunch.

So, like, every state, every country, she's got different coffee mugs with, like, kind of like if you do, like, shot glass. I used to do shock glass. Yeah, Starbucks does that now, too. I do golf balls now. Every, you know, course I go wherever I don't. Like, every state Starbucks has their own, like, state. mug that they sell at every yeah it is actually that's a good idea commercializing a local

thing yeah exactly oh cards playing cards there's a lot of those yeah lighters matches lighters those are good all right ornaments see a coffee extraordinary what's that called somebody who's really in a coffee barris sommelier that makes them right fissionado aficionado. Nice word. Samolier was also a good word. Does it work with coffee or only wine? I just applied it to everything. I think it's just wine. Pretty sure it's just wine. No. No.

I'm the, which I saw, we, we had, people are all in on the rough and the passer stuff this weekend. Oh, oh. Wait. Now the Somalia are ruffing the passer. Wait. Thank you for actually reminding us because we did this earlier today. there was a couple we would like to get your answer on can we do that right now absolutely let's do this okay let's go to the chargers texon's game chargers henley up the gut oh makes contact with what appears to be the chest finish your tackle no done not roughing the passive next okay easy as that bombs down from jj let's go to the uh let's go to the titan saints game here go ahead and run it i don't sorry wrong one Patriots Jets. I didn't know what that was on me. Okay, let's go to the Patriots Jets game here.

Obviously, Connor Cook at quarterback. Patriot Jeremiah Farms. Oh, man. Okay. Nope, not rough in the passer. Move on. Okay, thumbs down there from JJ Watt. Now we go to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Browns.

This is Cam Hayward on Shador Sanders. Has contact with the ball finishes through. He's a big body, big head on Shadour. or JJ, yes or no? Nope, not roughing the passer. Okay. As good as broo's on team. Do you guys want explanations or like I got no problem?

None of those are rough in the passers. I know that most of those three were the new rule of weight, laying the weight on them. All three situations the guys put their hands down to brace themselves. Watch every single guy put their hands down the side to brace themselves. Watch Cam's left ham here come off. He doesn't drive him in. He braces himself on the ground. I don't know what more you want.

I think you should be able to drive him into the ground. So I won't even give any of those. My roughing the passers that I will give on this show every time we do this, hitting in the head, hitting below the knees. I will give those two, or if you're hitting too late. But I will never give a ruffing the passer for a clean shoulder hit in the body. That was third and eight in the fourth quarter there. They called that.

Obviously, that was a massive call. And this one, the Steelers and it blues in the game. so obviously it's a massive call. But these are like program changers, 15 yards, big-ass deal. But also it slows people down when they're around a quarterback in the future, right, Jage, which is why we need to get this right. It's like you're saying. Like this is a 15-yard penalty, automatic first down.

You could be, generally they're going to happen on third down, so you would be off of the field giving your offense the ball back. And these guys are trying, that's a form tackle. That is a form tackle using his shoulder off. to the side, puts his hands down to brace when he's there. Like, this game is hard, dude. We are massive, massive men moving at extreme rates of speed, trying to play it by the rules that you have put down and the rules that you keep adding to it. And it gets harder and harder. And our position continues to get harder and harder to play. They're trying to do it,

man. Stop punishing them for trying to do it right. There are ones that definitely are worth it. These are not. And that's a roughing the pastor Smolier, Jay. Jay Watt. Three thumbs down. Pick up the flags. Let's play football. Ladies and gentlemen. Happy New Year.

That's JJ Watt. Thank you, Jay J. Happy New Year. Thanks travel. Is he coming down at a cotton bowl and a rose ball? I don't remember. Didn't sound like it. Yeah.

He said TV from a distance. Do you think we, no, we'll be, we'll pump to do it. We get to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe we get to do it. That's been awesome. Great matchup.

Hopefully. Matchups. You think potentially blow out Ohio State? I mean, I could absolutely see Ohio State putting it on. The other one might be a slop bowl. I think they could slop them up in the road bowl if it's raining, yeah. Tarrantial downpour seven point spreads a lot, especially if what they're talking about with the weather was.

Yeah, could that change if they, you know, we think for sure, big time rainfall? What are they saying? 50 degrees, 60 degrees? Yeah. Anywhere from 50 yet to 60. Yeah, usually from the last few years, the first quarter and a half, well, sun, like, lights should still be coming towards Earth. However, once the sun goes behind the San Gabriel Mountains, is what they're called?

You're saying when the sun goes down. It gets colder when the sun go down. Especially when you're wet. Yeah, we got about... When the sun goes down. You're at the Rose Bowl. But it appears on you because it's cold. Mm-hmm.

You're going to bring a poncho up? About 80% chance of rain the entire time. The game is gone. They're saying pretty good rain, too, not just, like, misting rain. I'm going to get full rain gear, like, what's his name? Not De Nardo. Jim Cantor. Jim Cantor.

There we go. We had full convoes about. do we get the ponchos, you know, and do the whole gimmick? And then there was a conversation about, well, I got a good rain jacket. I don't want to show off, some people said. And then we immediately went to, well, what are we wearing on New Year's Eve? And then what you saw us make a decision in the group text, you watched it all unfold. And you participated, and we appreciate that.

It feels like that's the only answer for New Year's Eve. Yeah, I think so. Feels like that's the only answer for New Year's Eve. Rose Bowl, though, I'll be excited to see what everybody does. I'll be excited to see what everybody does. I've got a good idea. Look like a couple of the fishermen. on the Northwestern.

Oh, my God, smoking Sigs. I got those boots, too. I got those rubber boots I could wear as well. Deadliest catch. Yes, that's what we need to be doing. Sig Hanson. Do these things get delivered in time? Is that going to happen?

Will they let us smoke cigarettes on the field at the Rose Bowl? They better. It's open air. If we're dressed like that, I think they have to let us, from my understanding. I'm not a hard of sense, sure. Deadliest catch, Discovery's Deadliest Catch. Still laying in Big Fish in Year 10. and this article on variety.

They're still doing it. Okay. I thought it was the deadliest catch. How are they still doing it? Survivors. Dogs. We have lost. It's only year 10?

A few good sailors. Yeah, we certainly have. Yeah, more than a few. Shout out of Gloucester. Yeah. All their monuments for shoot, dedicated to lost fishermen. Rest and peace, though, everybody.

We appreciate you guys. It's a perfect storm. Oh, yeah. Have you ever gone deep sea fishing? Mm-hmm. Oh, once? Twice. Seasick?

What did you catch? No, I didn't get seasick. Oh, I forgot the name of the fish, but we had... Crabs? No. I forgot. Barlow. What a Father's Day one year?

Bonita fish? A red... A red fish, big? I read, um... Red snapper. A red snapper. Swordfish? Big...

I'll find him. I'll find some pictures. I won deep sea fish at one time. We didn't pay enough, I guess, so we were supposed to be around the little fish. And then they just took us way out there. It was pretty sick. but it was actual sick

yeah the whole thing then we get out there first cast down there and I'm not good fisherman we've all seen it first cast down there catch a massive fish and there's a big fish

jackpot on the boat or everybody beforehand put a hundred bucks in I guess for the big fish jackpot because there's a bunch of different groups and yeah first cast I guess we accidentally happened upon one of these big fish

was in amongst all the smaller fish and it was my first cast down there to pull out this big fucking thing it was unbelievable thing was bleeding real blood It's on my boo. It's on my entire thing. And I go, holy shit.

Is this what we're catching all day? And the guy's like, no, you'll win the big fish. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, we aren't finding these fish today. We're finding. We have no idea. And I'm like, sick. It's supposed to be over there.

That's awesome. So I had three hours out there just knowing I had the big fish jackpot. The amount of shit I was talking to everybody. I mean, I'm okay with this whole thing. There's boozing out here. It's good water. I didn't mind the deep sea fishing. Was it just you on the rod or was it connected to the boat?

It was connecting the boat. Literally doing nothing. You just hit that thing, and it drops. Yeah, it's like a carnival, basically. And then you do this, and then we pick up and we move to a new area. Why you move to a new area, there's music. There's boozing happening, yada, yada, yada. We get to the new spot.

Do the drop thing in there. They do it. But they were taking us, I guess, to small fish parts of town. You know, I guess that's where we're headed for how much we paid. So, me, just boring. I think it was a red something. I forget what it was. Redfin tuna?

It was big. They were worried about the actual... The rod snapping? Yeah. That might have been in tuna then, actually. Yeah, I was going to say tuna are fucking massive. I don't think it was that. I don't think it was that.

I just think they did not expect that big of a fish to be caught. It was a general surprise, like a genuine surprise for the people. But I understood, like, the gimmick of going and do it. It looked like, it was like a good time. It's like the skiing, like, a whole fucking thing. You know, I think that's the fishing thing, AJ, I think. Yeah, I puked my balls off, so you will not catch me getting on another one. Yeah, I was pretty sick as well.

And then I got out there, got pretty boozed up. You know, one, the big fish jackpot. I think it passed out on the way back, got some bird. You know, I did the whole thing. So I think I checked that box. But, yeah, boats and water, not the best. I mean, I'm scared to death, too. It's all out there.

There's been, my alga has been feeding me some scary ocean stuff. Okay. That needs to stop. Stay away. It won't. Like, what's scary part of, like, what's going on? Well, here's an aerial shot of an octopus that was on. That fucker's as big as a city.

Why is that thing that big? That's fake. Yeah. And then he scrolled at the next one. It's like, this is not. fake and it's like feels like this is fake though and I go the next one they got a picture of a guy who looks like he might be telling the truth but that could just be an AI guy now that we know that Photoshop or whatever is now a part of what's real what isn't these days who knows what I know

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That is A.J. Hawk. The Toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One out of the Hammer, Dahn. Cowboys AP tone is here. Hammer. Dahn. It's obviously a sports gambling podcast that, you know, goes live from a studio right over yonder. What are the public betting numbers like coming out of week 17?

Did we win? Did we beat the book or did we continue to lose to the book? So we actually never got to this last week, I believe. We won last week just for the second. Did we? Last week. Hold on, hold on. Stop.

We did it. We did it. We didn't get to do it last week. We were now borrowing a time from last week and inserting this particular celebration into some shitty part of our show last week. Now, it was the Christmas week, so it was going to be tough for us to really do anything of good for the world. But we would like to take this moment if we did it. Oh, yeah. So this week, congrats to all of us.

Here we go. This week, I'm not sure if you saw the Christmas Day games, they sucked. The dogs all covered there, and then the dogs covered Saturday. So the dogs were off to a 5-0 start when that happens. Normally not great for the betters, but they came back a bit. four and six against the spread this week was the public when they were getting when teams were getting 60% or more

of the bets. Four and six, we're almost there. Almost. That close. Almost. In Christmas games. I'm sorry, if they get it. Give them back. Yeah, just give it back to the NBA. I was watching. I was watching the NBA. You got a good day. Fucking great day.

Choker, eight. Yeah. I mean, they had a great fucking day. Yeah. They kind of stunk last year, too. Ravens blew out Texans and Chiefs blew out Steelers. I mean, even like, um, Cavs, Knicks, I believe, like... Big comeback. Big comeback. Tyler Cole.

But also it's Mads and Square Garden, like, on Christmas Day. Like, I felt like, yeah, it's kind of cool to be watching this. Then Coco and, uh, Donovan Mitchell. Yep. I guess they're dating. I learned that while I was watching. I'm like, I'm fucking happy for Spider. Look at this guy.

He's doing this thing. And then huge comeback. Whoa. I mean, it was... Yokitch is... It was a fastball. The NBA, I think, threw its fastball on Christmas. And, yeah, Yolkich is out.

Laker's stink. Katie versus Brown. Really? Luke well JJ JJ Redick saying these fuckers are bad at basketball that's right he ain't doing it fucking sick of that guy who whoa JJ oh you don't like

accountability no it just he's trying way too hard to be Joe Missoula what and that is a fact I love he is first of all I love Joe Missoula West Virginia grad I just learned another West Virginia legend is on that coaching staff and

I assume the world knows I don't want to pull him on blast but I'm a big fan of who he was as basketball player and the person is also coaching up there. So I respect what you guys got going on. They also played the Pacers, I believe, in the last few days. Gumpy was sitting second row for the game. What was it like watching the Celtics Live and Missoula live?

Missoula was running all the boys. Everybody on the bench gets burned, and I told Tybo this. Garza was just up and down the board. I mean, he probably logged about 30 minutes. The bench kind of pissed off Jalen Brown. He wasn't doing nothing. They started laughing. Jalen Brown looked at him like, all right, here we go.

went off the rest of the game, unbelievable. I'll say this, dumpy told me they got an all-whites. Oh, yeah. Smack in the wood. I mean, they're coming out there for five minutes of hell for the team. And then it's a substitution. Is this brand new? Is this always been in NBA basketball?

I didn't know we had that. I believe it's brand new. Jalen Brown has had 30 points in every single game in December. He actually has had a historic month when it comes to basketball. But yeah, we have our bench mob, and they come in and they cause havoc. They chew on wood. choose on wood. That's what he said. He said they come in there and just give us some relief, but it's just like hell. Like absolute hell for them.

It's basically like semi-pro when they put on the eye line. That's what they do. And there's no sweat. It's not running into their eyes. They're able to do it again and again and again. I didn't know that was, that sounds like a sound idea, especially if you're out one of your stars. Like, hey, how do we kind of shorten the game? Well, we can put this crew in that's all grit and jam. I mean, all grit and jam. Nobody's going to be ready for. for it, Missoula's always cooking. I mean, that's basically the point of the civil thing. Yeah, one of the best coaches in all

of basketball, just... Wendy, what's going on with him? He's the guy. He's dominating. Yep, he first shoot hates Chet Holmgren. Now, those allegations are no longer allegations. He hates that fucking guy. Awesome to watch, though. Oklahoma City, what, 27 and 5? Yeah, Oklahoma City. I think

they're even... I don't know if they've lost have they lost five? I'm not sure. I think I saw that as well. I think I saw 27 and 5 on a graphic. Like they had lost three games whenever I ran, Caruso was at Texas A&M because they had lost two out of their last three, three in total, because I had a full surprise moment when Stanford Steve tells me from across the field, basically. They're the fucking best team in basketball.

And I go, what? They just lost two out of three. He goes, yeah, they've only lost three out of the entire thing. So then I go to Caruso, oh, you guys play it really well. And he's like, I heard Steve as well there. So I was like, okay. So you kind of caught me in this entire thing. I had no idea.

but I guess Oklahoma City, the real, right? The real deal this year, yet again. Three of those losses, three of the five are to the spurs. Okay, and that's the next question. So Wembe is who we fucking thought he was going to be? Really? Oh, yeah, big time. Yeah, if he stays healthy with Castle too.

I mean, their team is so young, the fact that they're this good. Harper, too. The number two overall pick this year? Harper Jr., he's a monster. So I like that he hung out with the monks, right? which is like quiet, reserved, everything like that. Still high thinking and everything. He flexes immediately.

I mean, he is because he wanted to hung out with Kevin Garnett as well, right? Feels like he knows everything about everything, too, and he handles it all perfectly. He started talking about the universe with us, or whenever he, not with us. He started talking about the universe during interviews before the draft. We didn't really know anything about this guy. You got a big French guy who's allegedly an alien. Yeah, he is. And that's actually what they're going to design his entire line of shit around, which is sick, too.

It's a great logo in the entirety. And it's like, well, this guy would be the greatest basketball player of all the time. Could be, they said. And he is. That's what's starting to happen here. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, you could make the argument. I mean, he's already the greatest defensive player in the history of basketball just because of what he does on the court and his presence.

He's seven foot what? I think he is seven, four or seven five. Yeah. And then his wingspans like eight. So that's why it's just like everything is getting. He is the swati. Yeah. Pulling up.

Even when he doesn't, like, go up, just his presence in the paint. like people will dribble right through it or won't even throw a layup up because he's like no easy buckets yeah it's crazy block party yeah and he can dribble and shoot you know that certainly doesn't hurt Jesus so if I recall the story he gets drafted there there's a couple older people on the team that don't get it that he's the one and then they had to kind of change out the the team is that accurate yeah yeah exactly remember they had all the prime time games and all those guys you're looking to get their shine in. He also, it was tough because Greg Pavich had a stroke, like, mid-season.

So they had, like, this whole, like, new coach comes in, a lot of different stuff. And then blood clots last year makes the All-Star game first half of the season, unbelievable. Gets blood clots, misses the entire second half of the season. So that season also goes down the tubes. And now this year, fully healthy, Deerrin Fox, guy they got another very highly paid player. He's probably their vet, but he's only, like, 28 years old, if that. And the guys they've drafted over these last three years since drafting Wemby Castle and Harper, it's like they have their own homegrown big three.

So everybody knows that it's Wembe's team there, like he's the guy. And shout out to him. Also, I saw you post, LeBron without high-in. Lakers stink their ass? Yeah. What do they mean their ass? I thought they were really good. Well, when LeBron wasn't playing.

They were great. It was all, Luca, hey, let's pass the ball. You know, everything goes through Luca. Not that LeBron doesn't pass the ball. He does. but more so everything goes through Luca and now with LeBron it's just different and the West is really good

and Jay J.J. They're a current four seed right now go ahead. That's probably why a comment said he was tired of JJ because he was talking about you know defense and guys not get back on defense and then he also mentioned the offense being out of whack since LeBron came back and Austin Reeves

is hurt too so he'll be out for a long stretch Austin Reeves was having an unbelievable year this year. Lucas still leading the league in scoring he is unreal he's what he's always been. I saw Jalen Brunson still can't miss. What the fuck? That guy's outrageous.

Watching him play the Pacers last year live, it's like it makes no sense. He's doing shit and it's going up and it's not even touching the rim. It is somehow falling. Whenever they need it, he does it. I saw a lot of that on Christmas and I guess he followed it up the day after as well.

The Knicks, a team that's going to be in it? Oh, yeah. We're all the way back. We have a bench now, too, which is awesome. So Tyler Colick on Christmas Day. Oh, I saw a little Colic. Yeah, he came in, hit a bunch of threes. He was a game high plus

25, I believe it was, plus minus, and then Mitchell Robinson, our big rebounder. He's still coming in off the bench. I think he had 13 rebounds in 16 minutes, so almost a rebound a minute. There was a possession where he got three offensive rebounds in a row. How was Marty Supreme? Timothy Shalomey, I immediately think of with the Knicks. It did the biggest opening for an A-24 movie ever the studio was with. Hey, way to go, Timmy! Same deal. A lot of people are saying, like, it will be a travesty if he doesn't win the Oscar for Best Actor.

Okay, he's going for that, though, right? Because we heard him speak before about how he wants to win the, like this is his goals. He wants to be a great, yeah. Yeah, Michael Phelps, Michael Jordan, these Kobe Bryant, these are my inspirations, not other things like that. He wants to be great. And then everything he does similarly lives up the expectation. Like his entire marketing angle here, they were talking about as it's the most innovative thing of all time. It's like he became a full-on internet person.

He basically exposed the fact that he understands what's going on in the world that we currently live in with the way he marketed it. and then his performance what he just buys into the character so well like what are you being judged uh whenever you win those types of yeah i mean i think that's part of it i i don't know how many people his age are you know i don't know if i'd say he's method but i think he he does got like the bob dillon one a lot that's a lot of that is coming back around where he basically said like hey i invested like five years of my life into like you know really diving into this character making sure i got it right and everything and i think a big part of it is he makes uh the right choices movie-wise and now he's getting to a point where I think like directors who are really

well-respected by the academy and things like they want to work with him and it also doesn't hurt that like he's one of the top guys right now like he's not really doing any movies where he's in two scenes and he's got 12 minutes of screen time like he's he's up there the whole time and on that note he's a sports guy he has ball yeah he does we like people that know ball doing their thing and uh congrats to him and I can't wait to watch Marty Supreme When's it coming out? I would like support. I'll go buy a ticket on Fandango to support you the entire thing.

When's it come out on the thing? I'm not sure. I'm sure it's one of those things where in February maybe you can rent it on Apple. Because that's the other thing is if it's like truly Oscar bait, they're going to want to keep that in the theaters for a while. Because they want to run numbers up in that particular world, even though they understand the modern world. I've been back in the Oculus, AJ.

You know what that means? What do you be playing ping pong? Well, I boxing mostly. I found out I can box in my bathroom in the Oculus. that's changed things a little bit. So, you know, the boxing and the Oculus, I don't know how many new listeners we have.

Sounds dangerous. So, you draw your area, and it looks out for you, you know, make sure that you're staying in there. But I haven't been able to, and I'm sure somebody more technically savvy would be able to do this. Mine doesn't have any boundaries now,

except for whenever I'm getting close to the boundary that I created. It, like, pops up a wall to let me know I can't either starts vibrating so it helps you set up a boundary on where you could be it's connected the internet it helps you out when like when i play ping pong i used to be in like an arena like i'd get in there and i'm an arena so i'm in the room that i'm in but in my mind um there's seven thousand but i'm more spring sure i'm already supreme in there and i'm playing against a floating head somebody from somewhere germany maybe uh you name it all over the globe

and they have the access to it now i i haven't been able to figure it out i'm just in the room that I'm in in all these things. So I'm boxing this guy. He's walking out of my fucking closet, AJ. This guy's walking out of my closet, okay? I'm sitting there in my bathroom. Personal. It's personal.

Exactly. Exactly. So I'm throwing bombs in my bathroom. I mean, absolutely. We know that overhand right is coming. We know you better watch out for that. There was. Yeah, you know what happened.

This guy's walking out of my closet. Yeah, right. So it's been fun. But I've gotten back into the ping pong in there. Like, after the boxing, I do the little ping pong to kind of calm it down because boxing takes a lot out of you if you're getting punched in the actual face

or in the Oculus face and you're actually need to knock his Irish champion out because you know for the good of the bathroom and in the closet you got to win boom yeah there bang boom I'm in an arena right to come over here

this is the third round it's the third fourth round yeah you don't know that that guy was getting tired in that moment that might have been Tejada you know Tejada it gets a little loose with his hands puts them down shout to Val walking through

she understood we were in between rounds we need to get back boom bang pal boom left hand needs bang there's a lefty by the way knocked everybody up bang i want to knock them out lefty boom boom i watch any film on these guys okay anyways real fighting in there there's a real character in there yeah okay that's i'm connecting with somebody's actual some things actual face in there and i started doing a ping pong afterwards and i thought to myself marty supreme they need to fucking that that ping pong company and the thing they need to be pushing that it like if ping pong becomes something because of marty supreme which it certainly could right i mean it had a hell of a run did you play ping pong down in south florida

no i never really got into it was there games down there ping pong yeah yeah we had somebody like one person every group basically have a ping pong table in their garage was kind of like how it worked in pittsburgh same in iowa yeah ping pong big deal like i mean exact same thing at least multiple people when my friend friend's group had ping pong tables Massachusetts. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like it is a game that like everybody.

Ohio, you guys certainly same as us, I assume. Absolutely. My grandma had an old pool table in her basement and she had like the ping pong tables you put on top. We would set it up, yeah. And then attach that net to the bottom. Boys are girls club. Boys are like ping pong pool.

Always in a garage. Larman had one. Bone had one over there. Fessick had one. ping pong's fun ping pong is legit i enjoy ping pong yeah it is uh it's a great sport and in the oculus they kind of got to figure it out like it's kind of i'm actually surprised they don't have some sort of like marty supreme tie-in on there that's what i'm saying because i guess the oculus is dead i saw there were some 78 billion loss or something like that and uh they were saying

it was dead i was like well this ping pong company that's in here should be they should be trying to like hey this is really good you don't need all you need is fucking four feet and it's like you're playing against people around the world. So, Marty Supreme, a ping pong player? Yes. Yeah. I didn't know what, yeah, I didn't know that's what he is. Yeah, I've not seen the movie.

I do not know the story. I've only seen a trailer, and I saw the actual guy playing. He's still alive. He was still, he still had it. I mean, there was still a lot of this. So he was a worldwide sensational table tennis ping pong player. Yeah, I believe so. And I think it's just loosely based on that guy.

But, again, I don't know very much about it either, other than, yeah, Tim Chalamey is playing like a, big-time prodigy in this. How are you a ping pong? Not good. You should be good, though. Got a brother that's really good. Yeah, military big.

Your dad probably played a lot. He does the spinning his shit. He got a force coming. You should get Oculus ping pong. I'm telling you. You can get really good, really quick, I think. It does fuck your real life ping pong though. I can't have that.

I realize that. You play pickleball lately? The last time you did that? Arizona Super Bowl? Yep. Then we played in here for a while. We had Thunderball in here. Remember, we picked up the tape.

Don't even had a tape. I drove past the pickleball place right where we lived. That place was packed. Oh, everywhere. Still. What was Ben, the chicken and waffles and pickleball? Remember that? What was that place called?

Yeah. Chicken and pickle? Yeah. I think it was chicken and pickle. It was a pickleball restaurant place. Out here? Yeah. I think they invited us to come play a couple times.

We couldn't make it happen. Wish we could have, though. Pickle ball was a good time. Great time. That doesn't sound sanitary. Well, you get a little chicken and you get a little pickleball. You don't do it at the same time. And you're cleaning.

It's like bowling. Like you're eating pizza while you bowl. It's like a similar thing. Exactly. Actually, some people take the chicken. More sweat. And then they put that right into the hole. Nope.

And they don't even do the wind. You're not bowling right. If I'm not sweating. Yeah. Pickle ball off. Work up real. Yeah. We're a lather.

When was last time you play? You play? No. My boy, I was in Arizona a few weeks ago. plate there. I think it's Arizona State game. Feels like that's probably what's going to happen. When we travel back to Arizona, we'll make sure we bring our fucking rackets. Yep. Next week.

Remember, we had 14 different... Is that real? Semis. First game of semi-first game of so much. Yes, the ball. Here we go. Okay. Here we go. Holy fuck. Find the house. I cannot wait. You need Airbnb stat. We need to find that entire thing. Cushie is part of a pickleball

country club. Remember they all? He's got a roller bag with like seven rackets in there, didn't he? He has a score. is rated. Oh, yeah, he does. He's rated. It's fucking wild. Pickleball really had a run there. It did. Is it still going, like, is it still big like

it was? I see, like, the pickle shack in different places going up that are, like, where people play. I do think still as big? Yeah, it's still bringing it. Oh, yeah. Really? It's not in our, yeah, spheres. A lot of, like, tennis courts have been renovated to, like, two or three, maybe

two tennis courts now. It's four pickleball courts. I love down there in Florida. tennis. I watched all the tennis this weekend. That came out of nowhere. Expected. Then we watched TGL for a couple. Yeah, Billy Horshiel with an absolute bomb. No.

What? What is this weekend? I'm an avid TGL fan. It was right in the middle of Sunday. Football didn't watch a second of it. You didn't? That was the dumbest thing they ever could have did. As a fan. Yeah, Foxy's one of their biggest fans. Foxy would really like the TGL to work. I think Foxy would like it because

I think Foxy's game would translate well to TGL golf. I think he'd be able to play well if we were able to get in there. Yes. And Foxy watched religiously, I'd say season one, much to the chagrin of everybody, basically, because we had a couple of times, we watched a couple weeks, and we kind of got it.

Foxy was all in diode-plugged. Love listening to Matt Berry up there. And then Marty the real Supreme Smith was actually out in the audience a couple times. We thought it was interesting how they chose to do it. We thought this year, obviously, they get a second

crack at it. And then they launch in the middle of week 17 NFL Sunday football. It's like, who do you think watches this? Football people watch this. They got Wednesday night at 9. That's where they fucking need to live. That's where they need to live. I'm just joking. That's the New Year's Eve. That's when the John Bull is. I'm not sure

when they're next one is. How the fuck would I? No one watched on Sunday. Last year they kicked it off on the first Monday night after Monday night football was over. And I was like, yes, that makes sense. Sunday at 3 o'clock makes absolutely no sense. Or maybe they went to Lads to get back into this swing of TGL things.

Maybe this is like the NBA. No, it's funny you say that because I actually read on the internet, so I don't know if this is true or not, that one team forgot about the hammer rule, which is basically the most important rule in the entire TGL. So they use no hammers, and they lost the matches. These guys love this league. They just love it so much.

They don't even want to use the hammer. Forget about the only fucking gimmick they got. Can you gamble on this? I don't know if you can, but if you can, and these guys don't even know the rules, that's a problem in itself as well. If you're gambling on this, call the number. I mean, this is a ridiculous, ridiculous thing to get along.

No, there's been a lot of, like, attempts at alternative golf formats, and honestly, I thought this one was the most fun to watch. That's why I enjoyed it last year, and then they kicked it off on Sunday NFL football. I think we found it. Don't we think we potentially have found what the golf alternative could potentially be? That sounds awesome. We didn't create it, but it was certainly presented to us. It feels like there is a lot of golf interest in the world right now. I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

we would like TGL to make sounder decisions there so we can watch this thing because I think we would be the demo of people that would enjoy that. Short attention span golf people, sports people. I mean, it's basically built for a digital thing, AJ. We think it's great. We think it could be amazing. We would like it to see it. You just need somehow like the, I don't know,

you need some animosity between the teams. You need the golfers to really play into it, I think, which Billy Horsesel was great for the sport. AJ wants for TGL golf, Billy Horsesel? Yes, he really is. Well, he led T.J.L. in singles points last season, as you could see, clearly. And Billy Ho's back. I mean, that's Billy Ho football. And we appreciate him. We just wish more people would watch it because this had a chance to be awesome.

And more of this is good for the world, not less of this. So shout out to Billy Ho and the Atlantic Dream Crusher. All right, let's get back. Next match is Friday night. Friday night, okay. Boston Common versus L.A. Golf. Oh, BCGC's play? They struggled that season.

Jim is taking it. Yeah, but how many free agents were they're in the first off season? Were people hitting the transfer portal? Did I see Scotty's in this? Yeah. What team's he on? Oh, good question. And by yes, I thought I just saw him in the audience.

Yeah, I don't know if he's officially on a team yet, but I did see him in the balls into it. So I saw him hit one. He's too busy winning real golf tournaments. All the boys are trying to win some real golf tournaments. This is just in the spare time, which they don't have a lot of. Scotty Sheffler, par three, 161. the same thing I saw as his first shot at the sofa stadium. Yeah, these guys

are approaching NFL coaches for me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't want to go home. And if you remember, let's play golf. There's like an expansion. There'll be more teams in there. So I assume Scotty probably has a piece of one of those teams and he'll be in it next year. That's my guess. Yeah, the maze does have a team

I think out there in Las Vegas. So if we were, so we would turn this Thunderdome into one of their TGL things is what we would do. And we would have a team we would host shit here we could do that i don't is that how we're working no i think it's all at sofi center yeah oh so people aren't building for if you have a home team giant screen not yet you got to have that giant screen and all the you know cameras and everything i think it's 60 feet

but you got to build a stadium for every other thing that you how many stadiums do they have do they only play one spot or they only play in south florida at the sofi center that they built for this but what would be goal for them as they expand is there would be multiple i guess Yeah, I thought that was actually happening. I'm not positive on that, but I thought they would say. How you make money? Probably Arizona and then like Vegas or something. Is this open to the general public?

Yeah, it has to be to make money, right? It has to be all week. And the next one is two-three. No, I mean to like a top-goff play. Yeah, exactly. So they're never going to be able to make any more. But maybe it does become that, right? I mean, maybe that would be the play.

Top golf's not doing great. I know that too. What? Top golf doesn't have Bay's booming anymore? I don't know. I think golf was a California. way bottom and then it went way down, I believe. Yep, Calloway.

Golf's going done? I mean, I don't know why they do it. If it's going up. Well, I think they're doing the gimmick shit because it's going on. Oh, okay. Nice. Good for that. All right.

Now that I hear a counterpoint, I agree with what you're saying. Did you see the video of the top golf in Michigan? I think it may have been over the weekend where this kid is stepping up to hit. On the right side, the nets just start. I don't know if they were frozen. If they were frozen. The nets just start collapsing. Just one thing at a time.

Yeah, it's just like a fucking title wave and the kid just backs up and you can see them just kind of, they're like, all right, let's get the fuck out of here. Top golf, Auburn Hills, the whole net came down. Okay. In Michigan. Oh, my God. Holy shit.

Wow. I think that lost a lot of golf balls after that. Michigan got a lot of snow and ice this weekend. Yeah, it was frozen. I'll tell you what, Top golf in Michigan, I guess it makes sense because that's kind of the upside. of Top Golf is that the bays are heated and you can hit full balls. Right.

So you guys are saying Top Golf is not in the same spot? Because I remember it was impossible to get in Top Golf. Yes. In my brain, it's still impossible to get in Top Golf. I guess that's not the case anymore. It's weird, though. You either go there and use their wobbly clubs that are for like a 95-year-old geriatric person or you're the weird hardo that brings your own clubs.

Like, what are you supposed to do? That's a problem. Callow he just bought him. I am correct. Oh, Callow he bought them. Wow. Years ago, they may have just sold. Yeah, Calloway just sold 60% of it. But they lost a ton of money. Boomer in Florida. Callaway acquired Top Gold for $2 billion in 2020,

but he's now selling the business to a private equity firm for $1.1 billion. Same venue sales are down double digits. Jesus. Higher rates have destroyed returns, and Calloway stock is down 50% of Jesus. That's not good. Buy the dips, they say. Yeah, it's right.

G.L will help. I think. Scott, he's not on the team, by the way. He just owns a team? I don't know if no. I know some NFL owners are getting in, but Billy Ho, I think he's a captain, Cantley, Justin Thomas, on the team, Rory, he has his team.

B.C.G.C., hegan. Tiger still has his team with Max, Tom, Kim, and Kaisner, Colin, Morcawa, Justin Rose. We'd like to see it work. Matt Fitzpatrick, Xander. It's everything that we would like in something. I have different groups come in, like, stream it. I have sometimes where it's not, it's strictly, like, streamed online. It's like coach B.A. and Chuck Pagano versus Bill Belichick and somebody else.

Yeah, in my head, I'm looking at this place, and I'm thinking about what it would take to build this particular thing. And then you can make an attraction. You can sell it to groups and then, you know, Bachelor parties, all that. You can get groups in there to do it. You would have to monitor it, I guess. And simulators kind of suck, so you'd have to fix those. But there's sim bars everywhere. Oh, yeah. Those are super popular. This is why I think Flag Football is a run, because I would rather watch Flag Football with. people that I don't know, then watch this, for sure. Well, for like the viewing part of it, like, AJ said it jokingly.

Thousand percent. Diego, okay, Pavia versus, I don't know, Cade McNamara or Grinowski, yes, I absolutely. Or, like, the Mizz should have a team. Like, you got, you put, because right now we're just watching guys not play real golf who are pro golfers and, like, everything kind of looks the same on the screen until they go up and do the putts. Like, you need got, you need some people who. who love golf, who suck.

DJ Caled out. Exactly. Boom. Like he needs him. Where they miss the screen. Yeah. Him playing against like Rory's team or whatever. Like that,

that would be, it'd be entertaining. And you don't even have to have, the pros do the close, have the, oh, there you go. The random people, celebs, if you will.

They're the ones that have to hit it to the screen. Yeah. That has to be. The only issue there is, shh, shh, or you get to kill some people. It's part of it.

But a couple mess up. That's TGL. Everyone's wearing helmets. All right, that's golf. We talked about it. Three o'clock, it's hard to talk about it. Had to talk about it by talking about how bad of an idea it was to do what time you did it at. But we did talk about it because we would like it to succeed.

Shout to the TGL on another season. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to check the temperature of the NFL fan bases from around the world. I put a tweet out this morning saying, hey, we'd love to hear your overreactions on this second to last regular season. Overreaction Monday. Wow, let's take that in a little bit. Oh my gosh, this is crazy. We're already here. Let's enjoy every moment. Let's enjoy every tweet that had. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact.

But! Let's get to the first one here. This one's from Boston Corner. This guy's making a lot appearances this year on this one. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but... Caleb's awesome. Bo Nix is a winner. Jaden Daniels is cool, but Drake May is the guy for the next 20 years. Can't believe I get to cheer for these two every time to Patreon. take the football field. It gives me chills

every single time or every single game. Truly in honor. Shout out to the Patriots being all the way back. And Boston Connor getting a chance to enjoy this all. I don't know if you saw over the weekend Ben Johnson was doing an interview with Tony Dungey and said one of the most influential coaches that he has ever had or worked alongside

was Clyde Christensen. Obviously we know Clyde Christensen from his program. I am a huge fan of Clyde Christensen. Sorry, Sinsenson. We all are right, right, right, right. But if people forget, Drake May was with Clyde Christensen his last year at North Carolina. Clyde Christensen told us, as the draft was about to happen, Drake May is the guy. I mean, this is Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck combined.

I don't know what else you can really do is what Clyde told us. Then Debuck goes and golfs with him, and Debuck comes back and then he goes, Drake, yep, he's number one overall pick. If Clyde Christensen, who has worked with everybody as quarterback coach and has literally had to take calls at 2, 3 a.m. from the greatest quarterbacks on earth, have answers for them. If he says he spent a year with this guy and says he's going to be a guy and then around his brothers and around people and in competitive atmosphere, maybe some other people boozing. The way he operated and handle himself, he's a guy. It felt like those who knew

Drake knew he was going to be like this, but nobody else kind of expected it. His footwork, he wasn't going to be able to develop where the New England Patriots are going to be worth a fuck. You know, there was so many questions about it all. And now we're staring down a prodigy basically in Drake May. And he's still, how old? 23. Unbelievable what's happening up there. Congrats to you guys. Yeah, so cool.

And you got to give some, or a lot of credit, rather, to the Kraft family just because they let go of Mayo and now this whole thing has kind of started with Vrable. But yeah, going back to what you said, I had a bunch of faith because of Clyde Christensen, him coming on before the draft in 2024, basically saying all those things, what DeBud said. And then last year, you know, that was the whole entire thing. His rookie year was every single game. There was some sort of sign like, okay. okay, this guy has it.

This guy, he can move, he can make the tough throws, he can make the deep ball throws, and then Vrable coming in, kind of uniting everything. That's why if you are a team, that stinks, but maybe has a guy at quarterback who's young. Maybe all it takes is one or two guys, a left tackle by chance, maybe Will Campbell, a couple veteran signings in free agency, and then just the right guy at the helm like Mike Vrable. I mean, it is just truly a dream. And I can't believe, like, I was even sitting here before the show saying, And holy shit, like the playoffs are in two weeks.

Like, yes, it sucks that overreaction money. This is the second last one. And we only have one more of the regular season. But as one of those teams, that gets to actually go for a Lombardi, I can't wait for meaningful football. Hey, welcome back for you guys. Oh, yeah, good to be back. It'd be great to be there with you. It'd be really fun.

Maybe three years. Let's go to the next ever reaction. This is from K.C. Jones at K.K. Jones 14. Hashtack, I don't want to overreact. But take me behind the shed and put me done. Then if Todd Bowles is still the head coach for Tampa after January 5th, dig up my body and shoot me twice. I'm done.

New year, same bucks next year. Hashtag crew, hashtag fire the cannons, and hashtag fire the coach. Gay, Bowes doesn't have a lot of favor down there. This feels like a pretty big collapse. It feels like a pretty big collapse. You know, we talked about some teams that were in a great spot, maybe middle of the season, and then here we find ourselves in not so great. Colts, Packers.

couple of injuries and then his bucks team what the fuck is going on I don't think any of us fully comprehend what's taking place Debo what are your thoughts on the bucks team because I know a lot of the players

that are playing when I'm watching them play I know him I know him he's good he's good he's good they've been good just it's not coming together for some reason what are your thoughts I mean it's wild we've had BA in here all year long

so he's obviously tightly connected with the organization as well so you hear some things from him where it's going good they're winning close games and when they walkoff games They're making the right plays. And you're like, okay, this is a good team.

And they're doing that despite of all these injuries with a lot of these players that you're mentioning. And then you get a lot of these players back kind of one by one. And they start playing worse down the stretch when you want to be playing your best ball. It's very concerning. And if I was a fan of the books, I'd probably be feeling the same way about my head coach. And you heard Todd Bowes, too, maybe last week after the game, when he just came out and just talk like you've never kind of heard Todd Bowes speak in public. That was a loud siren as well. I'm worried about him, age.

I'm worried about it. They're calling them the suckaneers again. I don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah, what do you think of Shephty? Shephty's saying he doesn't, was he saying that Baker may be playing hurt because of stuff he has heard, or is he just saying,

he's guessing, hey, there has to be a reason why this team isn't playing well. If Shepter's saying it, I'm assuming it's something he's potentially heard, you know? Like, we've got to take that with everything that Shepter says. We have to assume it's coming from a place in which he has some information that we don't have, right? We have to take that with Sheper. That's part of the insider game. That's why he's, you know, not really paying attention anything yeah uh-huh okay yes so what's got to take this

that's his life i take a shower wiping the steam off the shower trying to look at what his new text was yeah oh god i get this kind of currently washing my ass okay okay okay i'll break it i'll break I'm gonna break, I'm gonna. Huh? Is that two years or three? Come on! Oh, I gotta finish my shower. That's his life.

Yeah. He's committed to it full time. So anytime he's speaking about anything, one of these was something about it, you know? That's even if it's from another place, that place, somebody that played the place. Like, I just assume he is a constant stream of Intel, Shefti.

And then what he's speaking is what he thinks he's allowed to say. You know, that's like whenever you say, what do you know to people? So you know what the parameters of what you're allowed to release? Like, what is the information that we already have so that I don't go past that? Feels like Schaefter sets those parameters a lot on what we hear, what we don't hear,

what we know, what we don't know. So that's like, anytime he says anything, I'm thinking there's some shit. Educated guess probably. Yes, especially if you had those contexts. I mean, I don't want to talk about it too much, but like us getting to talk to these kinds of, coaches before these games.

Holy fuck. What an advantage. Legit. If you get a chance to talk to the team about what they're thinking and how they, what an advantage that is. Sheffter has that with every team, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I think so. Front office people everywhere, yeah. Well, Baker, we know he threw his shoulder out against the Rams. So he might just be saying like, hey, he only missed the second half against the Rams at SoFi. And then after that, he never really missed any time. So he could just point to the left shoulder. But to Debutt's point, and you've said it a lot.

It's week 18. Like how many guys on. every team aren't hurt. I mean, I know Josh Allen's hurt. Josh Allen's gone hurt and damn near every single game. And, like, you never see anything about that. And then, you know, we talked about it as well with what's his name, Herbert and Rogers. I mean, they have broken, and Rogers missed the game.

Herbert had surgery on a Monday, or on a Tuesday, and he played on a Monday. So it's like, I get the hurt thing, but this has been a historic collapse. It's not as if this was just recently. And they're a fun team. I think we like the Buccaneers. Like Vita V on the defense side, he's fun Mike Evans, he's fun Wurfs, Baker Mayfield, fun

Wurfs, fun. It was fun. It was. It was. On Winfield. Fun. Bucky Irving. It's a fun team.

Tom Moore. They were. They stink. They saw. Hey, they're no fun in ears. Still got a chance. There's a chance. Winner against Seattle.

Or Sam Fran. Hey, chipping a chair, brother. That's all you need. It's a long fight. I don't love it. We lost it. lost our playoff opportunities the night before the game, you know, and everybody's saying, well, why the fuck's Phil Rivers playing?

I had a thought, though, like, because you guys came out hot. I was like, oh, the Colts are used to playing with no playoffs in the future. So, like, they played really good. No. And then they... The reason why they played really good is because Phil Rivers cut a fucking promo before the game to the boys that motivated them about being kids and playing football. And does it matter?

Yes, it does matter. And it always will matter because it's the sport. We're representing out here. And then he was introed last. first time he's ever got the opportunity to really experience a thank you from Lucas Oil Stadium from the Loud House and I'll tell you what, big thank you Bob

for Phil Rivers. It wasn't just for what he did this year coming out of retirement. It was for like 2020 he never got to experience it. I felt like we all had it. I got a little emotional for Phil. Came out last, you know? They announced Jonathan Taylor and I'm like holy fuck. They're letting Phil go last year and then he comes out

and I think everybody in there was like, hey, not for this year. I mean obviously thank you for this year, but we never got to say it. Thank you. for COVID too and I think he took it in a little bit you know now he's in front of his entire team he's in front of his entire boys were there would have been cool to get a win bonus games that's right yeah never saw he's coming

he said don't make the fucking movie we gotta win a game to want to make a movie you know true not an indie all right you need to stop it they don't give them big three are in the middle of it they're gonna have to make a big decision yeah Carly Casey and Kalin welcome to being owners in the NFL if you stick with the operation this offseason that's a huge decision

huge decision that's going to be judge if you decide to move on that's a lot of decisions that you have to make and you have to get them all right but I think they're ready they're prepared for it welcome to the biz though welcome to the biz exactly fucking milk

huh what a fucking milk historic melt we all learned about it at the same time is that fibula off a buy you got it's football so what now long season huh I mean

is there anything wrong with him? No, he's good. So I think he's going to be fine. But, Chefty, I think he should be, he will be managing it. It'll be okay. Oh, yes. You're right, Agent. Maybe Shafty doesn't know what he's talking about. Should be good to go for the start

of season. He said he had a broken leg. That seems like something you would have to deal. He's got a broken leg. He's got a torn Achilles. Yeah. He's free agent. He'll be back for the beginning of next year. And it'll go well because it's Danny Dimes. And we appreciate Danny Dimes. And I like Danny Dimes.

stick around yeah I would like Danny Diamond stick around yes but it's like what's the who's the what is the whole thing what's a contract what is everything deal look like yeah who we don't have one so like who are we do we got pieces oh no that is a shame Alec Pierce his contract's up I think he's a good weapon for us we like him he's gonna get a lot money Jonathan Taylor's gonna want a new deal no one's crazy he's on when you have to pay Tyler Warren 800 million dollars in two years probably three years thank you he's more maybe quentin nelson makes another pro bowl he was willing to fight a couple people for philip rivers i appreciate that phil rivers guy john while they're

walking quentin nelson walks next to person in between phil and person just kind of like a little quick walk i'm like i like what we're doing there got a couple pillars you know we can build around going forward do you bring phil back would you like my opinion yeah fucking right okay but i'm bringing it back for the last game in this season They're not? We'll see what Riley's able to do. A Riley start? I think Phil should play the last game.

I don't get it. Okay, so it sounds like you're being a condescending prick right now. No, I'm absolutely not. If Phil was on the team, why isn't Phil playing? So I don't know. You think he's going to be? I don't know if he's going to be a good point. He misses the headset, man.

He's going to grab the headset called plays. Maybe they didn't want to send him out on his death bet against the Texans. Well, he played this game then. We're already out of it. Well, because. Exactly. Riley didn't get he started reps all week. Phil took a lot of reps.

Oh, okay. get it because there was still a chance but i mean fuck it send them home like max yeah they don't care you want to throw riley to the wolves that yeah texans i mean what we do he's tough kid i will say great deep old yeah each were a great hail married he did gave him a chance he gave him a chance how to move what happened uh i'm not gonna get into it what you mean i believe commentator thought that maybe that was a curtain call for fell rivers that's why they're bringing i can't remember if it was red zone or i was watching the actual game they said

take it was red zone taking out oh you heard it to that. Taking out Phil for a curtain call. I don't think so. Six-Boy K. I was kind of confused by that. Okay, so yeah, you heard it. It's football. We're all trying. But on that note, a lot of announcers sucked yesterday. Yeah, and normally they're so freaking good.

Yeah, well, that's the thing is everybody thinks we suck too, so it's hard for me to judge. Well, I do. And I can admit it. These people won't admit it. Okay, and I think that is our difference. We admit that we suck on a daily basis, but we appreciate everybody that follows along. And we, on that note, if you'd like to hear us impersonate ass and cheeks, this week call a game, we'll be on New Year's Eve, ESPN2, and New Year's Day, 4 p.m., ESPN2, as field pass

continues to travel the college football playoff, both at the Cotton Bowl as the Miami Hurricanes, who just beat Texas A&M in a windstorm down there in College Station, will take on the reigning national champion Ohio State Buckeyes, and then at the Rose Bowl, Alabama, who just beat Oklahoma after a 17-point comeback in the second half will take on the Indiana Hoosiers who are the only team in America that is undefeated. The reigning, defending Big Ten champs

get their first college football playoff action in the Rose Bowl. They haven't been there forever. Love what's going on. It's going to be a lot of talking and we're going to sound bad for a lot of it, but you can enjoy it alongside of us. Let's get some more overreactions. It's ones from a Greek man from Baltimore,

John Minidakis. Hashtack, I don't want to react, but Sunday's matchup is a true loser. leaves time match between Harbs and Tomlin, missed the playoffs, and be gone from the territory. On a note, hope Tone Diggs can refer

Mike a good moving company. Raven's about to smack the Steelers on Sunday night, says Jimmy's famous seafood, which we will say stinks. What? That is not what we're going to say. It ain't as good as Big Mike McCarthy's cheese.

I'll say big Mike McCarthy's meat and cheese. He's were certainly a home run. But any time Jimmy's delivers to the building here, which they can serve nationwide, by the way. They get the best crab cakes on earth, and they can serve you wherever. They will ship it directly to your house. It's actually an incredibly delightful presentation when it shows up.

The people that are doing it, though, just know that they're hoping that Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers have the worst Sunday in the history of Sundays. That's what type of operation they're running over. I'll say this. Middonkis sent me like a little shock glass from Jimmy's for Christmas. I spin it and then I smashed it on the floor. Smart.

Just so he knows that. I told him already, but just so he knows that. I don't know if he's spinning it, rewrapped it, shipped it back. That would have been interesting. Next year. I don't know if he's going to send you one next year. But to his point, I said this earlier. I said this earlier.

If this truly was and if like the NFL had bowl games, this would be a good idea for this week 18, loser, losing head coach gets fired, winning team obviously goes to playoffs I think you know win or lose I think both fan bases would be happy oh how the north has fallen it's a shame

reminds me that mom's dinner table match yes exactly winner gets the bomb OCW classic yeah that that one baby didn't have a ball more yeah test two baby yeah test two baby

they're not kind of creating it in a lab that's our champion yeah he resented of the champion Kind of like Derek Henry, created it a lot. Maybe, actually. Let's get to the next overreaction. I mean, OCW Championship was worth it all.

History repeats itself, man. Dan Riley, do you know Office Championship Wrestling? I remember, is it Jesus versus the devil? Okay. No. Jesus assisted. Wait, I'm sorry. Easter Bunny versus the devil.

No, he also was involved, but... Yeah, the devil was working with the Easter Bunny the whole time. He was. Oh, it was our champion versus the devil? No, against Easter Bunny, I think. No, Easter Bunny came in to help DB No, devil was stealing her soul Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick was

running his mouth. Yeah, Nick talked shit to the devil and it's very New Testament. Okay. The Easter Bunny, though, did show up and helped the double, which is crazy. Crazy heel turned. We didn't expect that. And then Jesus Christ showed up and guess what? Our souls were saved. And that was

a pretty big day. It was a casket match, actually, if I do recall. Oh, yeah. Great to hell match. Great to hell match. Wow. It was crazy. Casket. Really tough clothes, actually we found out. Yeah, Jesus almost broke his fingers. Yes, he did. Jesus almost broke his face, too, because he was standing on the room side. Quick hands.

He would never. Quick hands by Jesus. It was close. It was really close. Honestly, we were surprised as well. He was flown. But Jesus was on the right side. Always. Amen. This is Dan Riley at D.Riles. Hashtag I don't want to react. But? The bills will either

be one and done in a wildcore round or they're going to the Super Bowl. There's literally no in between. They're the only team that can holding a pen into 17 total yards in the second half and still lose that game. Fuck them. Okay. Is that how all Bill's fans feel? Bill's fans are kind of done with them. Yeah, there were a lot of these and then kind of, I think just it kind of opened the door, too, for, you know what?

Fuck Sean McDermott. Get this guy out of here. We've been doing this long enough. If we don't win the Super Bowl this year, fire this fucking guy. But yeah, it was a lot of that kind of stuff. Isn't that crazy too? Because if a completion happens that Josh Allen is wide open. would always complete Sean McDermott of Buffalo Bills

would a win over the Philadelphia they go for it for two they do it all instead not a completion they lose and now all of a sudden the Buffalo Bills are dead

it's like Philadelphia Eagles are a great football team your teams are going to lose to great football teams we talked about this last week Philadelphia Eagles are a great football team not saying the bills shouldn't be bummed that

but boy I think you should be pumped you got Josh up there but are they falling into the Mike Tomlin Sean McDermott world where they're like, yeah, being successful is cool. This is a lot of fun.

It's a lot of fun. We can't go win a Super Bowl. Is that where Bill's fans are? It's crazy. Yeah, but it's worse because they're doing it with one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So that's tough. And it's worse for this year because now everyone, you know, I don't believe this, but now everyone is going to say, like, you know,

no Chiefs, no Ravens, no Bengals. And like the Bills finally kind of have a clearer path versus all the other teams that are unproven because, I mean, you go down the list, no playoff wins for Bo Nix, no playoff wins for Drake May, one playoff win for Trevor Lawrence, Steelers, or Ravens. We'll see what happened. But, you know, the Ravens and Lamar have never been to a Super Bowl. Rogers hasn't been to a Super Bowl in a long time.

And then, you know, Herbert, no playoff wins. And who's the last one there? Texans, Strat. They've won a playoff game in each of his first two years. But this would be the year that a lot of Bill's fans are expecting them to go. Yep. So, good luck, Bill's fans. It's from Dr. Gonzo, Ph.D., and looks like in booze at Real Gonzo, at Pat McPherson.

Hashtack, I don't want to overreact. But the Steelers are dead. Last three games, they've played in a dog pound. They've lost. Rogers needs to shut down his book club because he can't even read defenses anymore. Start watching baseball because Pittsburgh's no longer a football town. Geez, is that accurate, Don? This guy's an idiot.

I mean everything he said was wrong You could be mad about the game But don't be wrong about everything you say Dipshit Okay, so let's go on what was wrong Huh? What was wrong? Rogers can definitely still read defenses

Okay He doesn't have a book club anymore Okay So Pirates have had a great offseason But it'll never be a baseball town Yeah it's a hockey done And a football turn Great off season

Have they really lost the last three games Did a dog plan? Yeah They lost this one They lost last year in the snow to Jimmy Winston and then the year before that I believe the quarterback

DTR I believe it was DTR yeah fun fact I believe the last five times that they've played teams oh there it is there's a stat that's what I was looking for these are teams that are eight games or more below 500 so that's at least

halfway through the season it's you know so we're in the back half season these are must win games and you just can't beat shitty teams that two and ten paths team though whole man. They were fucking...

Zapi was fucking so true. And that was a Thursday night and Mitch Rubiskey had to start so I don't, you know, I don't fully blame them for that one. But no, you just can't get

your team ready against terrible teams or... What are you saying? What are you... What is that all about? We can't beat bad teams. You can't beat good teams or just kings of mediocrity.

Crown them. Fuck them. He said just like the bills guy. All right. Let's move along. Let's go to the next one. This is from Carthick Vangala. Hashtag I don't want to overreact.

But? Cohen, Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, McVeigh, Clingsbury, and all the other hot shot offensive minds sit at the kids' table in Shanahan's house. He is going COVID-Vrable this season, deserves the coach of the year. Injuries, suspensions, whatever IUC has, Shanahan got the answers. I'll tell you what. JJ mentioned it how the coach of the year candidacy has basically become. was the team asked and are they good now,

which certainly should be talked about when flipping a culture and coaching and everything like that. But with what this Niners team has had to go through this season, the fact that they're staring down a potential number one seed, Shanahan's name should definitely be in consideration, A.J. Hawke. It absolutely should keep... I mean, a lot of people, I feel like wrote the Niners off early in the season felt like these guys, this is not going to be their year.

But with what they have overcome and how well Brock has been playing later in the year, you've got to feel really good about where you're at if you're the Niners. Tone just said that they're the number two in odds currently sitting at Draft Kings. He is currently number two in odds sitting at Draft Kings for Coach of the Year. Yeah, so Vrable was first, then Shanahan, followed by McDonald, Cohen, Ben Johnson, and Sean Payton, which, I mean, any of those guys you can make an argument for. Yeah, but you can make probably the strongest argument for Vrable. Yeah, but does any of Coach care? Do they care about winning this?

They might get a bonus in their contract, I guess. I think their agents care? Yeah, I mean, it's nice to have, but they all know, like it. I need to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, I think that's how coaches are wired. I think they're business people care, though. Especially Shanahan. We're talking about the bills and not been able to get over the hump and win it.

Sam Friend has been there a couple of times, and obviously you're banged up. But Shanahan has done an unbelievable job coaching this offense. And that offense, like the shit that they do pre-snap and post-snap and brought party playing like this, they'll be unbelievable. Defensively, can they figure it out? But this whole stretch is always, we talk about excuses or injuries, obviously, are injuries. And they've had to deal with it seemingly every year to big-time players. But yeah, they got a big hump and a big monkey to get off his back as well.

I didn't like the Christian McCaffrey back thing, you know, in the second half. They were talking about it. I mean, it's inevitable with how much he gets the ball, you know? But it's like they're a special team and a fun team to watch. And talking about how smart that guy is the fullback who just lives at the Pro Bowl and use check. It's cool team. Congrats to Shanahan getting a squad. And congrats to party, putting it down.

I mean, absolutely putting it down. Let's go to the next one. This is from Garrett at Death Pain. seemingly got his own logo there, too. You see the D and the P in there. That's a really good logo. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But I'm not worried about Caleb.

He has shown he can make any throw and compete with anyone and is already the best bear's quarterbacks we've ever had. Parentheses, low bar. But this defense is an overrated joke. But low average at best when you take away the turnovers. If anyone is going to ruin this magical run, it's going to be the defense. Paul needs to get his head out of his ass and figure out a way to spend money this offseason. Bear.

If you take away the turnovers, they stink. You take away the points, the offense stinks. I think turnovers are a big part of the defense. Now, granted, I think what he's trying to say here, Mr. Death Payne, is like, this is one of basketball teams lives by the three. You know, whenever you don't, the threes don't fall, you're done. So whenever it's just turnover-friendly defense and you're not getting them, it can be a hard day, tough day.

But, yeah, it's a, I mean, I've got to pick six immediately, which is certainly a celebratory thing. but a lot of points last night from that San Francisco 49ers offense. A lot of points in that game last night, age. Yeah, I mean, I can understand getting worried. Like, hey, what if we don't get turnovers when it matters when we're in a true sudden death game in the playoffs? But it's not a bad thing that your team,

your defense finds a way to get a bunch of turnovers. That's a positive thing. Yeah, hey, if you take away all the good plays, we're a terrible team. Yeah, that's basically what you're saying. Oh, you're saying that's a little bit of a rude over reaction I can respect it. They still got a shit ton of turnovers. Let's go to the next one. It seems like another cool logo here.

Geez, a little bit of a run on AI here. I'll run Phoenix 69 at Linton Dakota. Hashtag I don't want to react, but it's the same damn shit every week with the Eagles. Get a lead and pray the defense holds up. Vic Fangio should be allowed to bitch-slap Siriani in that dipship, butthulah live at the 50-yard line every week. The offense fucking stinks. Wow.

A lot of that coming out, I assume? Yeah, a lot of that. No one really happy that they won, even though as the Eagles have continued to win and their offense might not look good, I'm starting to come back around. I'm like, man, this team really could win the Super Bowl. But their fans don't feel that way. They kind of always have hated Siriani's guts, even when he won the Super Bowl.

And Petulow is just the newest kind of toy that they can really, hey, we got somebody. We got a guy we can just fucking shit on every single week, which I think they need. Jalen Hurts, oh, yeah, it's good for the Philly culture. Oh, for seven in the second half. I guess he becomes like the first quarterback that has no completions in a second half to win a game. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that type of stuff. And I think these Johns over there are accurate in their depiction of the offense, though. It does not look like the offense from last year whenever they won a Super Bowl.

And they've been complaining since the beginning. But they win games. Yeah, you got to find a way. Especially if you watch that game, it was an ugly game, bad weather. Didn't throw the ball a bunch. Had a couple throwaways. But yeah, the offense looks absolutely terrible. But when you tried out a defense out there, week in a week out, that can match up with anybody,

regardless of what that offensive style is, you got a chance. And then with those players on the office side, you would think, like, at some point, they can figure it out and put a couple games together. We've seen them do it, too. We talked about coaches. They got great coaches on both sides of the ball. So I'm still not out on the Eagles.

Yeah, me neither. And also, most important time, maybe they dial it up. You know, maybe they're getting too used to the confetti in the spotlight that they need it. They fiend for it. That's when they play their best. Sirioni's talking his shit out of the game. Miss the locker room.

Sure. You saw that age? Yeah. Oh, yeah. A.J. Brown's like, Coach, we're going this way. Oh, yeah, that's right. I was watching AJ Brown the whole time. Yeah. See if he was going to get in on it.

Go pile on, guys. You know, we started measuring guys. Yep, all right, coach. Yep. See, oh, fuck. Got it this way. Got it. Every time I watch, it's better. Fucking, that locker has been there for 60 years. That is where that has been. He's been in and out of that locker room seven times that day alone, probably.

Sorry, he's locked in on talking this shit. I mean, it's Sierraani football. He's just walking right out of this stadium. He's going right to the bus. That is literally the exit right there. Yeah, right at the top of that tunnel. Interesting dynamic there coming out and going in the same way. That new stadium should be spectacular.

Hopefully they still have that fight factory. Yeah. You know, for pre and post games, for everybody's coming in the same. Almost another one this weekend. Offense line was walking out. Spencer Brown. Yeah, he and a couple of D-Lyman were getting into it. It's like, I can't believe that is still how that whole thing goes.

That's crazy. Good chivalry up, bear. Let's move along. This is from Aaron Bagg, I assume, airbag, hashtag I don't want to react. But... Once can, Nicole Stink. And collapse late in the season and missed the playoffs. It's time for Carly to send Osama bin Ballard and coach Stinking out of Indy and straight into the burning sun.

Let it fry just like they fried our happiness for nine years. That is not his name. That is not Chris Ballard's name or Stuyken's name. And I would like to say that I know there's a lot of teams that have excuses. seemingly every year for why their team's not good. There are a lot of excuses for the Chris Ballard era of why there hasn't been success. But boy, it's just

one after another. It's like, is this guy cursed then? Is it more like cursed Ballard as opposed to Chris Osama bin Ballard? Is it maybe cursed Ballard? I'm not 100% sure. And then Shane Steichen, I guess you know, whenever Dimes was playing quarterback and he had a quarterback that understood everything was going on where the number one offense in football. He was coach

of the year candidate. Yeah, what we're talking about? But is it every year there's going to be something, you know, and is it like, do you need a Re- Your starting quarterback does get hurt every year? That is a tough coaching situation to be in. And front office, you know, in a front office thing. But it's not just, but it's like who are the quarterbacks that they're choosing to pick as opposed to what they're trying to do. We obviously had the number four

overall pick at one point. We have players that we've paid a bunch of money to, but for some reason haven't been able to have success. It's like, I don't know. It's a conundrum, but maybe it does need just like a reset, or maybe it'll just click. And I said after last season, whenever it came out, I was at the Intuit Dome. I believe it was the premiere of Monday Not Raw on Netflix, and it was right afterwards. And I was talking about how it feels like what the Colts currently have going on.

This was last season with everything that was coming out about being late, missing this and skipping this and basically not being professional athletes and then collapsing the way that they did and how they did. And me talking about it, obviously didn't make any friends in the locker him kind of exposing the lack of professionalism that was happening there. But it was like, in my eyes, I thought everything that was in that building was going to be tough to fix because it's already been a culture. Guys are under their second contract in this shit. Ballad's been here nine years, 10 years.

That's two contracts of like his guys. So it's like, how do you change the culture in the building? So I thought it was impossible to be able to do that without a reset. Then they bring in Danny Dimes. They bring in a couple other guys. Then the word out of camp is like, hey, these dudes are actually all they needed was just a little optimism that they could win. And it was like everything was going right this year.

And it's like, okay, they did figure it out. And then all of a sudden to get an injury to the quarterback, get a couple other injuries. And it's over again, and they just look like ass. And now they're going to lose eight straight. It's like, did we just go immediately back to what we were last year? As soon as Danny Dimes got hurt, what does that mean? And what does that say? It's like, I don't know.

I don't know how they fix it. I genuinely don't know. I don't know how it goes. But it feels like every year there's a genuine reason for why the Colts are ass. but what a tough offseason i guess not tough but like there's got like tough decisions to be made for for the big three in their first off season to where their dad is not around yeah right in it right in it i mean this is huge decisions sell for it's ownership baby that's been part of game and the clock's ticking we need two more super bowls in the next four years that's why i think you

just ride ballard and stiking out one more year i genuinely believe in the in the vision we saw this year they like their guys and i like their guys they became really bad really quick though very quickly i mean like as soon as there was a hint that like you guys might be asked you got it we'll take it no it wasn't it wasn't a slow crash though you know it's we're asked now had tough schedule yeah yeah we play a lot of teams. Yeah, tough second half. Oh, you didn't hear? You guys get to just play the Cardinals every game next year. Boom. So maybe

Titans mixed in? Yeah. We got them twice. Shaddle Tray McBride. All-time receptions later in a single season. Good football player. Great football player. Doesn't help that the Jags look like they're going to be a pretty solid squad the next five to ten years. Yeah, in Houston. That's why you kind of have to hit the reset. Like, is

there any other, maybe, I mean, maybe the Steelers, but I feel like there are a lot of people who would still be okay with Tomlin coming back. Like, if they retain both Stuyken and Ballard, I feel like the entire fan base will be You gotta remember the entire fan base was already. Yeah, exactly, so you're kind of in a lose-lose. No, I think

it's like 92% negativity going in the season. Was that one place's poll? Yeah. Now, who are the people that are reading that place in voting? Oh, were they right? Exactly. I started thinking about them the other day. I'm like, they knew it.

They knew that we weren't going to be able to withstand anything like that. Because you look at the Niners, and obviously Brock Party got hurt. Then they put Matt Jones in, then Brock Pretty comes back. But they lose two of their stars on the defense side. It wasn't just like, let's quit. You know, it was like, let's play a little football year. Let's win some games.

Yeah. I haven't seen a lot of people do a lot of good football for the Colts in a while. It was a bummer. I took my shirt off in the stadium yesterday. What happened to the run game? Exactly. What the fuck happened? J.T. got him sweet gifts.

He supposed to, he did do that, but I mean. Jesus. What do you get him? Do you get them? Bossils? No. Side by side? Side by side, yeah.

Sweet. I got little trucks, right? One of the little trucks? The names confused me last week. I don't know what they're called. The Matt Rules? Those were cool. Yes.

Yes. The Matt Rules. I saw him, Scott. What's he doing? What's he doing? He was on a zip line. Yeah, I know he was on a fucking zip line. I saw it.

He's recruiting. It was awesome. Always be recruiting. As the hardest, I've laughed in a long time. A long time. Just all of a sudden. Just fucking rule flying across the, what it was at Circus, Circus, flying across inside.

Oh, man. I watched that maybe a thousand times on set. Wee. Flying, dude. You go very fast. I appreciate the fearlessness, and the boys love the, too. The boys love the. So, you know who's, you know, we talked about that quarterback going in there.

There's conversations about him going back Nebraska potential. Oh, is there? I think so. Bro? Oh, so that was like a situation where you go test the waters and you get a lot less and you were supposed to, oh, it's a, it's an Amaliava situation. No, we don't know about any of that. I'm just saying, I don't think people in Nebraska have not given up hope

that he comes back to Nebraska. They still won't want him back? Wow. I wouldn't want him back. Kick rock. Fired his uncle, right? Yeah. Yep.

All right. Last overreaction. Coach Rule, we like what you're doing out there. It's from Jacob, James, uh, J. James underscore 59. Hashtack, I don't want to overreact, but in a must win game, you could bet the house, the kids, the fate of the fucking world. the panthers losing fuck all right you got a big one this weekend buddy sounds like you can bet it all he knows good luck brother good luck to all parties we appreciate you all for hanging out with us

today it is 356 easter that's pretty good little day here good little show well we got a couple of these left i know it's almost off season time this goes in it's good off season okay Shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It might land on the, uh, we do play it. Shit. Oh, no. There's a bunch of shit this obviously.

It's right online. Terrible offsees. We got the World Cup. Got the Olympics. Fucking world baseball, classic. Yeah, this is. So I need the international ball. Plus, we forget.

Playoffs is like six weeks long somehow. U.S. XFL. That. And the NBA. The draft. Is the U.S. XFL happening? I saw AJ McCarron's got a team.

Yes. Teddy Ginn. Teddy Ginn's got the Columbus aviators, too. They're bringing a squad of Columbus. What are you guys playing? High school? Horseshoe. Crew Stadium. The old crew stadium they're playing.

Really? Yeah. Let's go. I'm excited to see if it works. They got the guy from Noble. What's his name? Mike. Rapoli.

There it is. There it is. I saw him cutting a promo at some press conference thing talking about. The U.S.XFL is about to be the best ulterior something. He was really good. He was jacked up about it, so I was pumped to see that there was good energy behind it. My first and only request would be, let's make sure that there's self-awareness on that team. All the teams.

Yeah. We're holding on. Okay. Well, I'm holding out my eyes from watching. Okay. I'm not doing it. This is here we go all in. They didn't want the pizza, right?

They didn't want pizza. That was a different league. coach oh that's a different league yeah yeah that league I guess didn't even pay hotel bills correct mm-hmm it's a sycamore situation if this goes in it's gonna be a great USXFL league

hell yeah hell yeah just like I fucking thought just like I thought it's gone I think it's gonna roll out of the whole thunderdum I'm watching a USXFL this year what is your team the Columbus

Aviators Ted Gidd yeah Yep. What's AJ McCarrancy in the Birmingham Stallions, I think? That's a good squad. I'm taking them. Who's your team, Foxy? Michigan Panthers are dead, some out on the league. Oh, wow.

We were in the finals last year. They could have won the whole damn thing, and now they're not a team. Really? Yikes. From the finals? Yes. Puka's brother was our best player. Oh, well, no.

All right. We got Monday night football game tonight. Let's go ahead and pick that. AJ, I beat you this weekend. what's going on. AJ, I beat you this weekend. Pretty good. We're staring down a potential tie here, AJ. Seeing it pretty good. 8-6-1, you were 5-9-1. No chance to come back. I appreciate what we got going on. This will move me to 7, 8, and 2 on the season. Obviously, you 8, 7 and 2. It all comes down to week 18. How it's supposed to? Yeah. That's exactly how it's supposed to be, AJ. Tonight, Los Angeles Rams, Matthew Stafford, potential MVP candidate takes on the Atlanta Falcons.

Rams favored by 7 with 81% of the public vote. Remember, this weekend, if you had more than 60% of the public bets on something, they won four times out of 10. They won four and six. Last weekend, we won for the first time. And then every other week, other than a tie, we lost. So whenever a majority of people are feeling a certain way, normally percentages are telling us it's not going to go great. Tonight is that different? Tone, what is the bet to be looking at as we look at the Rams and the Falcons?

I think you take the Rams and lay it. Okay, deep. Are you going with the Rams or the Falcons? I'm going to listen to AP Tone. I'm going to take the Rams and lay the touchdown. AJ Hawk? Yeah, I mean, I think McVay wants Matthew Stafford to win the MVP, so I will take the Rams.

Me as well, Monday night football, Matthew Stafford. We're all in the Rams minus 7. We'll certainly tune into that tonight. We appreciate you all. We'll be back tomorrow going crazy. Then Wednesday, we're at the Cotton Bowl. Then Thursday, game day, 6 a.m. local, and then Rose Bowl, 4 p.m. Eastern.

It's a great time to be in ball. Great time to be in ball. next tgos friday night yep can't wait wait seven o'clock boston cannons in los angeles it's it's boston common golf club yeah boston canaan the the la it's bcgc get it right speaking of those guys too shout out boston talk got me this for uh christmas yeah good luck to everybody at golf patty learned how to put yeah this is uh legal I think it is.

I believe this is. Foxy? It's illegal. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Okay. I didn't know the answer on whether or not it was legal. I'm not totally positive. I was assuming that when I showed up with this thing,

somebody was going to say something from some rules committee, and I was just going to have no other options in the bag. So I was going to say, what? You want me to use fucking seven hundred? I mean, you can use a driver at a putt, so why wouldn't you be able to use that? Yeah, you can use it every you want. That's true.

What are you playing in some PGA sanction events? Are you worried about? Maybe I'll come back out to thought. You know, maybe I... Yeah, you can use that out there. I mean, have you seen the... You guys still got that bit? Yeah, that's iron...

Time's ticking. No, it's not. I got nothing but time, buddy. Here we go. I mean, I think you're going to... Especially at open stance, you're going to drain stuff. Yeah. There's a ball in there.

I do know you can't do that. I know that's against the rules. What's that? Having your foot point towards the hole. Why? I don't know. You can do whatever you want. It's illegal, the internet says.

Yeah. To do... Really? The punt? The punt? Open your stand. is illegal. The punter is it illegal?

It's shocking. What's illegal? Wait, why is it illegal? What's the problem? It's designed violates several key regulations. Like what? Mainly it's flat back.

Oh, flat bag. You can use it. Then put something on the back of it, make it not a flat back. Just tape a piece of cardboard to it. I'll tell you what, that's why the Saudis understood they could come into golf

and maybe get it. Yep. You can't bear in and shit like this. I'm sick of it already. Did you see Brooks left? live. Now Bryson's saying he might be on his way up too.

Don't say that. Uh-oh. I have my crushers gear. It's over. Who cares, dude? Cadillic Formula One's coming around the corner. Good point. Nope, we're not doing that. TGL will never sniff it. I know that. I'll tell you what. My TGL days might be behind me.

Oh, no. I didn't like they went at 3 o'clock on Sunday. You know, that was very disparate. pointing. I'm like, who his brain is doing? Can we give it a shot? I don't know.

Hopefully they do. A lot of smart people involved over there. Have you seen the names? There's a lot of big names over there. It's like, is anybody paying attention to the actual thing. NFL owners.

Involved. No, they don't care. How old are they? It's not about that. No, no. I know. Dinosaurs. Yeah.

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