The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 148 - 1st Show Of The New Decade. Darius Butler, A Rather Large Announcement, & Some Life Talk

Episode Date: January 2, 2020

On today's show, Pat and the boys discuss what they did on New Years Eve, and try to get to the bottom of the people who go to New York and stand in Times Square to see the ball drop live, and discuss... whether or not Steve Harvey and Gronk hate each other. Pat also dives into the coaching carousel and starts to have some second thoughts on whether or not Jason Garrett will actually be let go by the Cowboys, after he's survived multiple meetings with Jerry Jones. Joining the show is former 2nd round pick of the New England Patriots, Defensive Back with the Indianapolis Colts, Pat's former teammate, one of the smoothest athletes to ever walk the planet and host of the Everything DB Show, Darius Butler. He and Pat chat about some of the different intricacies of playing defensive back in the NFL, including how infuriating it is when commentator's misidentify who blew a coverage, why certain DB's enjoy wearing certain color gloves, which WR's gave him the most trouble during his 9 year career, and Darius and Pat go through each NFL playoff game this weekend and give their thoughts on who they like and why (22:26-44:13). Also included is some notable news with Nick that covers the US Government banning soldiers from using Tik Tok, fireworks being replaced by drones for celebrations, and a few other news items that are making waves throughout the world. Lastly, the saga of Foxy trying to add some money to the 2020 accountability bank by hitting an NBA 3 during the show, and suffice to say, it did not go as expected. Don't forget that "Pat McAfee: Professional Baseball Player," is now available for free at youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow. If you haven't yet, check out the best comedic sports documentary that has ever been made. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Before this show gets started, I would like to let you know that Pat McAfee, professional baseball player, is now available for free at our YouTube page, youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee, professional baseball player, is now available for free at our YouTube page, youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show. Go check out for free the greatest comedic sports documentary in the history of comedic sports documentaries. We might be the only one in that category, but we won a damn award. Check it out now for free at youtube.com forward slash the pat mcafee show hello it is thursday january 2nd 2000 and 20 20 almost want to say 2019 there you know because it becomes a habit habitual just to say the year
Starting point is 00:01:23 that you're in there it's hard not to write 2019 for probably the next week or so, probably the next two weeks. Imagine having to say it live on a microphone every day and not sounding stupid. It's inevitably going to happen. I mean, I say dumb things all the time, but welcome to January 2nd, 2020. 2020, another decade has passed. I hope you all had the greatest decade of your entire life. I hope 2020 is going to be the year that you remember later on in your life that was like, boom, pivotal change in my life. 2020 was when I decided to, insert name of cool thing here, maybe you decided to get in shape. Maybe you stopped
Starting point is 00:02:08 eating like two pizzas a night. Maybe you stopped eating breadsticks with cheese and pizza and wings and pancakes and cookies and brownies. Nope. This is, this is strictly for a friend who might be dealing with this thing and having this idea maybe 2020 is the year that you get your life together and yep it's probably the year that i need to do the same i'm getting married this year i guess which is awesome yeah it's awesome can't wait for that forever's a long fucking time long fucking time but i can't wait for that ride. Hey, hey, put it there. Today's show is brought to you by SeatGeek. SeatGeek is not only our presenting sponsor,
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Starting point is 00:03:58 it's a podcast. It revolves around talking, but we got some good for you let's get started joining me here in indianapolis i wasn't gonna yell but i liked that you guys did i liked it i i didn't know if i was ready for it there's another night of coughing at the mcafee house so i didn't know if i was ready for it but by the way i feel like the pneumonia pneumonia is possibly out. This morning, there was a massive clump that came out. That's huge. We cleared the throat. We're ready to go. I wish I could have yelled with you.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And the people that were yelling, Indiana, at Nick Moraldo wearing a camouflage hoodie over there on the ones and twos, how was your New Year's Eve with Big Walt? Pretty good. Went to bed about 11 p.m. Yeah, I'll tell you what. As we go on, we remember. How hard it is to spend New Year's at midnight together.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's hard. I looked at the clock like 7.30, 8 o'clock. I'm like, whoa, we got four more hours. My lady and I at about 9.30 were laying down. We're looking around. We're like, we still got two and a half more hours here, lady. We going to make it? We did, by the way.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We made it all the way to midnight. But it was a drag crawl to the finish line. And this is what happens when you get older. You get hemorrhoids and things like that. At Tone Diggs, I saw you and your family were enjoying beautiful New Year's Eve last night. Yeah, we went out to dinner because I knew if we just stayed at home all night, we would not make it. And then he came home. He played a little rummy.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Drank a little champagne. Are you a rummy family? Yeah. Oh, me and Sam play every night. Really? Yeah. It's a good one. Couples night.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's a nice little bonding experience. I'll tell you what. Sam and I went and played against Phil and his wife in rummy. Dominated? Yeah. I'm very good. Home game or away game for you? Huh?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Home game or away? Well, it was an away game Because it was at their house But they had people Looking at my cards Whoa Yeah Phil's dad and Phil's sister
Starting point is 00:05:50 Were looking at my cards Yeah Papa Mains is coming in Like good see you And he like Gave me a hug And he looked at Phil Like wink for an ace
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm like I don't need that right now App Austin Carter What you do? Funyuns? Funyuns Chocolate milk You know the deal We didn't do a thing I was in bed At Boston Carter, what'd you do? Funyuns? Funyuns, chocolate milk, you know the deal.
Starting point is 00:06:06 We didn't do a thing. I was in bed by 11. Yeah, exactly. What did you watch? I watched the Utah-Texas game. Okay, so you watched the Utah-Texas game. Shout out to Texas, by the way. And also, a fun thought. Utah almost made it into the damn college football playoff.
Starting point is 00:06:18 One win away. And imagine what LSU would have done to them. I couldn't even fathom. And Utah, remember. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't want to drag anything for 2019 into 2020. I'm not even going to do it. I have to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. We refused on this show to talk about Utah because I didn't know anything about Utah. And I felt like a bad person because I was a college football analyst. I knew nothing about them. And I didn't want to talk about them. So I'd get callers. And you need to show more respect for the Utah Utes. You need to show.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I was like, you know what? You're right. You're 100% right. They get in the Pac-12 championship game, play Oregon, slaughtered. Then here they are against Texas, slaughtered. I mean, I want to have respect and appreciation for them. I heard their mountains are beautiful. I bet you the people are great.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But damn, that team stunk. I don't know how they got to where they were. Let's assume they'll get better next year. That's two years in a row that Texas has taken advantage of a team that barely missed out on the playoffs. And I think they were a little down for the meaningless bowl game. And Texas is taking advantage of it. Is Tom Herman the Bill Belichick of bowl games that don't mean anything?
Starting point is 00:07:12 People are asking that. People are asking that. By the way, Tom Herman, he has a lot of, I've heard a lot of interesting stories, obviously, about Tom Herman, as we all have. Has he been an upgrade for Texas or not? Because I feel like Texas has not been relevant for a very long time, almost like since Vince Young was there or Colt McCoy was there. Yeah, I think they expected him to get back to where they were at
Starting point is 00:07:33 with Mack Brown, and he just hasn't done it at all. He was an upgrade over Chuck Strong, for sure. Oh, yeah. I met Chuck Strong this week. Well, I started Chuck Strong with Chuck Pagano. Correct. Charlie Strong, I i believe is who you're referring to i i got a chance to meet him this year um i think he got fired from the sf2
Starting point is 00:07:51 i'll be excited to see what he does next but you could tell that the way he talked about texas it didn't go anywhere near how he thought or they thought it was going to go and it's almost like whenever something like that happens you can set back a program a long time and they can be hooking them all they want down there but they ain't hooking a damn thing except for these big bowl victories over teams that aren't in bowls of matter. So you didn't watch any of the New Year's Eve shows? No, none of them. I've never been a New Year's Eve show guy.
Starting point is 00:08:17 What does that mean? I just don't really care about it, you know? I've never accidentally floated over to NBC. I'm over on HBO checking out the movies, you know. Got it. Well, you didn't miss much. I mean, Post Malone did a performance in a pink suit. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Pretty good performance. Paula Abdul lip synced like four or five times, but she's 70 years old and was dancing her ass off. So I have some respect for that. I always wonder, is a lip sync like always an option for a performer and they have to choose whether or not to do it? Like, for instance, when they go out there and they're performing, rehearsing or whatever. And I assume in rehearsal it's actual singing. Is there somebody that's like, you know, we can always. Is that what happens?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Because it's not my only game I play now during live events is like, are they lip syncing or not? Like Neo, for instance, there'll be some times where Neo performs. He's still alive, by the way. Neo is still getting a lot of really good gigs. I have no idea how or why, but he used to do that thing with the microphone stand. It was pretty smooth. I think he probably wrote some songs. But Neo hasn't had a hit in probably two decades, so I don't know how he's doing in 2020, but I respect it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 But whenever he sings, he has his hand over his entire mouth like this and i'm like i feel like i could be a singer if that's the way it goes i wonder if that's an option every single time you perform i think so and i think it's more like the people who dance primarily as opposed to sing do that because dancing and singing at the same time obviously very hard you're going to get winded you're going to run out of breath so the dancers primarily do the lip sync but how nice is that though like how nice beautiful to know that okay i make a banger dj's just gonna spin that thing i just gotta i'm gonna do my dance that's all i gotta do and then i just gotta word it and then at the end i feel like there's a deal that's made between the audio person and the person like
Starting point is 00:09:59 hey after the song's over turn it on so i can say thanks to everybody because there's always that completely different tone sound it's like happy new year sierra was dancing her ass off i forgot how good of a dancer she is and i don't think she was lip-syncing last yeah but that song wasn't a song you sing though no no it's more like a yeah that's like why it's so frustrating when you see someone like mariah carey who's known only for singing go out and do some lip syncing. Yeah, but Mariah Carey, she made $60 million off of that one song. All I Want for Christmas. The streaming rights made $60 million. I have a list here of top 20 people who have lip synced, but Rascal Flatts is one of them. Really?
Starting point is 00:10:37 No. No, this is one person. They got caught, though. No, can we please put a preface on this, that this is one person's opinion that Zito is reading? I could see him losing his breath. You're telling me big, buttery breath fella, big, buttery voice guy is going to lip sync? No way, that's all he's got.
Starting point is 00:10:53 That's all that guy's got. Big Guy Fieri guy? There's no way he's going to sing. He does look like Guy Fieri. Yeah, with a buttery, soulful voice. The concert, they were here, I think, last year we went to it. It stunk. So, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Dan and Shay destroyed them. They opened for them and destroyed them. Well, what if Dan it it stunk so i mean i don't know dan and shay destroyed them they were they opened for them and destroyed well what if dan and shay were lip-syncing you don't know i don't know those two are good i i wish now if we were musicians and we were on tour and everybody knows how my brain operates and i get bored i would assume i would make a remix for every song in every city that we go to. You know what I mean? You would do that 100%. 100% customize a song for the city. For the city that we're in.
Starting point is 00:11:32 That is 100% what I would do. I guarantee you. And that is how you learn if the person's lip syncing. Yes. That is, I got my toes in the water. Ass in Indiana. You know what I mean? There's just something that you could change in a song so
Starting point is 00:11:45 it's not obvious you know what i mean oh and i don't know how more people don't do that i have no idea how more people every time i go to a concert and i'll hear them sing i'm like not even one little just a little tip of the cap to like oh the indy 500 maybe pate manning you couldn't sneak that in i just think they're missing the boat but it has to be because last night new year's eve might be lip sync city oh yeah everybody i don't think post was no it seemed like he was singing but his microphone is a full auto tune microphone which i don't care you do what you got to do it seemed like he was having some issues with his audio in his left ear as well i think that's always the classic go-to too whenever you're not singing you do the lip-sync thing.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Zito, what'd you do last night? Take Coco anywhere? Yes, we went to a burger place downtown. It's owned by a big steakhouse chain around here, St. Elmo's. I was about to say, I thought we were doing no pub there. I thought you were doing no pub. How'd it go?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Did you get back home? Did you watch any of the television? Yeah, so I actually didn't watch any television. Went home. Stopped at Todd's show. It's actually right next to Todd's thing. It was right next to it. I walked out.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I was at Todd's show. Nice. Ty, what'd you do last night? Anything sweet? No, not really. I fell asleep by about 8, woke up at 1130, saw the ball drop, went back to sleep. Perfect. Ty mastered New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Foxy, I saw you and the lady were out and about. Saw a photo shoot happen. That's good. I like that. Yes, sir. That's just classic. She's 23, so she's a part of the Instagram era. So we got to take the photo shoot.
Starting point is 00:13:10 We got to do that. Dinner, drinks, whole thing. I'm feeling 23. He says she's 23 like he's some 40-year-old. What are you, 24? 25. I'm a man. I'm 40.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Speaking of a man who is 40 Todd You had two shows Last night How'd they go How were the crowds I assume they were Pretty rambunctious Yeah You have a big difference
Starting point is 00:13:31 Between a first show And second show In the years First show A lot of older crowd They have dinner beforehand You know And then the party crowd
Starting point is 00:13:38 Late show The best part of it Was I got to meet Zito's lady For the first time Oh Coco She's quite awesome Ah yeah
Starting point is 00:13:44 She's dating Zito Yeah lady for the first time. Oh, Coco. She's quite awesome. Yeah, she's dating Zito. Yeah. She is awesome. And old Billy. Old Billy McComas got a chance to drive home his dad last night after his shows. And I thought he was dead this morning. Yeah. Billy didn't make it in here until about four minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And we're very thankful that Billy is alive. Don't even know if we're on YouTube right now. I walk in. I walk into the building this morning. And all laughs. Happy New Year. Happy New Year YouTube right now. I walk in, I walk into the building this morning and all laughs, ah, happy new year, happy new year
Starting point is 00:14:07 and then it's like two, three minutes, like what are we going to talk about and then, hey, there's a real situation
Starting point is 00:14:13 with Billy McComas right now. And I was like, what happened? Did he get arrested? I thought he got arrested. They're like, I think Ty looked at me and said,
Starting point is 00:14:19 he might be dead. I was like, wait a second. Billy McComas is dead and nobody can get a hold of him. And here he made it in. Yeah. Very, very thankful for Billy.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Happy you all had a great New Year's. I hope the people that are listening had a great New Year's. Is there anything we should talk about before we get to the break? What's any big news we should talk about? Nah. Nah. Except for, oh, Dorsey. Did we go over what you did?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Dorsey. Dorsey. Oh, buddy boy. Buddy boy. John Dorsey of the Cleveland Browns. Oh, buddy boy. Buddy boy. John Dorsey of the Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 00:14:51 The man who basically assembled the most talented roster in Cleveland Browns history, potentially. Recent history, at least. I don't want to go back and act like I did the research. Most talented roster in history that, for some reason, couldn't come together and play together. For some reason, couldn't get it all in a row. John Dorsey, GM, fired. some reason couldn't get it all in a row john dorsey gm fired the haslams shipped the responsibility of building this team to a guy who's living in california in his basement john d pedesta is that right yeah moneyball guy yep they just shipped that guy was the guy from the previous regime that ruined the team more than anything let's get it back into that guy's hands this haslam family now i know that there's a lot of very bad franchises in all of sports i'm sure
Starting point is 00:15:31 there's even bad esports owners but this haslam family firing the coach firing the gm putting it back in charge of the gm that you fired two years ago. What an interesting move that will definitely go down in their legacy of sucking thus far as owners of an NFL team. It was like since the Haslam's have taken over, and I saw the tweet, but I don't have it up right now. It's like the Steelers have had one head coach and one GM. The Ravens have had one head coach and two GMs just because Ozzie Newsom retired. And then the Bengals have had one GM and two coaches.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And then the Browns have had five GMs and five coaches, I think, or seven coaches or something like that. So what is it, the interview process? You know what they're not asking? If you're a kitchen appliance, which kitchen appliance would you be? Because you learn everything you need to learn about somebody right in that moment. I wonder what Freddie answered.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'll be a fork. I was going to say spoon. I'll be a fork. I was going to say spoon. I'd be a spork, actually, because I'm multifaceted. And you'd have to go, Freddie, well, that isn't an appliance. That's a utensil. Well, you put a little drill on it.
Starting point is 00:16:39 John Dorsey, hot. Ron Rivera, in with the Redskins. I guess two nights ago, it was spotted in D.C. at some restaurant. Dan Snyder was eating dinner with Ron Rivera and Barack Obama. Barack Obama is now recruiting coaches to the Washington Redskins. I have no idea if that was a true report. I saw the tweet.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Get tweets. That is a hilarious thing and a hilarious thought. Congrats to Ron Rivera taking over another franchise that seems to be perpetually screwed in success. And I can't wait to see what he does with Dwayne Haskins, who showed a lot of promises. And he hired Jack Del Rio today as his defense coordinator. Okay, a couple of two OGs getting the road dogs back together. Just like Mike McCarthy's been doing in his barn. I'm excited to see where he ends up.
Starting point is 00:17:24 The more and more i think about it mike mccarthy at the browns or the cowboys would be awesome i think that would be a cool thing get a yinzer in there get them now by the way awesome for the team i'm not talking about for us i think what we all would like is jerry jones to obviously make a hilarious decision so we can listen to jerry have to talk about his decision because Jerry Jones is an electric factory on a microphone but I have no idea who's going to get what job I think now and bear with me here this would be aligning a lot of stars but I think there's a chance now Dan Snyder I guess kind of bucks this trend I think there was a conversation by the NFL to these teams that are looking for coaches to tell them to draw it out a little bit take your time doing this we can make stories out of this we
Starting point is 00:18:14 can make fodder out of this let's not just hire somebody immediately and then we have to answer a lot of questions there's a lot of stories that are coming out from this all now right like matt rule saying no to the browns was a hilarious situation now the browns want to look into this guy and this guy and this guy it seems like everybody's doing super due diligence which if you're a fan you have to appreciate but it's not normally like this now normally hires have already been made normally there's already been decisions and thoughts already had i mean at this point we don't have a clue who's going to go anywhere and the people that we thought were going to go somewhere now are potentially not going to go anywhere. It's like Jason Garrett somehow has survived three meetings now. Three meetings with
Starting point is 00:18:52 Jerry Jones. I don't know what else you're going to talk about. I understand it's a family down there and that Jerry Jones says he runs that operation like a family. Every time you see his suite, he's got his grandkids in there washing his glasses and his sons. Everything is, it is a real family thing. His family owns it. 100% ownership. They took no public money, so I understand that. But this guy stinks as a head coach. It's only a matter of time you've got to let him go.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And maybe he got stale and let him go. But nothing that we really thought was going to happen has happened yet. And that, to me, is surprising. And I think it might be a strategery business was. I think there might be a little something to it. Because normally I think when the teams realize three or four weeks ago that they're getting a new coach, they already start putting out their feelers to the potential coaches,
Starting point is 00:19:31 and then they kind of have someone in mind. But I think with Jason Garrett, and this is a tale as old as time as something that works, I think he's crying in these meetings. And when you've tried to break up with girlfriends in the past and they start crying, it is just impossible to do Jerry just send the text message and move on I think he's crying I think Jerry's like all right well we'll talk tomorrow I mean can we get some maybe Thursday Jerry
Starting point is 00:20:02 just text them that's. That's what happened. Everybody's like, well, you can't break up over text. It's like, have you ever seen Jason Garrett cry? Tough to handle. What would you do if they just changed the locks at the whole Cowboy facility? They do that, though. So you have a fob to get into your building, and as soon as you get cut, your fob doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:23 There's guys that show up, their fob doesn't work anymore there's guys that show up their fob doesn't work it's like okay is this a tech issue or am I no longer on the roster oh that happened in the famous video the Jets guy right yeah
Starting point is 00:20:30 and they walk you in and then they walk you out yeah that whole thing happens immediately upon you getting released or whatever so if Jason Garrett goes back in tomorrow for his third meeting
Starting point is 00:20:41 let me in is he still crying down there? Open the door. Jason's got a boom box sitting outside the facility. That probably is what it is, isn't it? I think it is. That's the only rational explanation. No one thought Jason was getting to 2020.
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Starting point is 00:23:20 What's up? What's up, Pat, man? Thanks for having me, man. No problem. What's the new podcast called? Everything DB. Oh, because your name's Darius Butler. Darius Butler. You know, DB played every position in the backfield. So, just dropping gems, talking ball, you know, for all the people who kind of want to learn more about the back end of the defense.
Starting point is 00:23:41 A lot of guys on TV don't know much about the you know coverages and secondaries and things like that So I'm just trying to bring that to you know, social media. That's a real thing by the way I watch your videos and I feel like I'm actually learning and I've told this story before but we might have a lot of new Listeners whenever you have a team meeting on Wednesday mornings It's the whole team whole all hands on deck Chuck Pagano used to enjoy Questioning the defense on who prepared, who was ready going in there. So he would say like, hey, when they line up in this formation,
Starting point is 00:24:11 what does that mean? And nobody would answer. And then he would go, Darius, what does that mean? And Darius would go, well, the slot's going to go onto the flat. The tight end's going to do this. You're going to do this. And Chuck was like, that's right. So like every single time that a question was asked,
Starting point is 00:24:26 Darius Butler was the quarterback, basically, of the secondary. One of the smartest humans, I think, football-wise. I'm very, very happy that you're finally deciding to use that and potentially make money off of that on the internet because I am learning stuff through your breakdown videos on your Twitter, which I love. We just need to get you a red laser pointer because the green laser pointer, you can't
Starting point is 00:24:46 see the damn thing. I got it, man. I went and got it. I got the red laser pointer. You DM me like, hey, bro, I need the red laser pointer. We got it, girl. Have fun. Bring the new year right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 What is something, looking at these wildcard games, Buffalo, Houston, Tennessee, New England, Minnesota, New Orleans, Seattle, Philly, what is something from the DB standpoint that we should look forward to in this particular game? What team uses a nice system that should set them up for victory against another team that we aren't thinking about? Well, right now, you know, everybody's knocking down the Patriots. Obviously taking a big loss to Miami. Obviously Tom's not playing as well as we've seen him play over the years. But the secondaries had a pretty good year. Gilmore, I don't know what it was going into that game last week,
Starting point is 00:25:30 but Parker got the best of him. You saw him get hit with that deep double move against the Bills. I think it was John Brown that went by him. So I think he'll come into playoffs with even a bigger chip on his shoulder. And he's kind of the defensive player of the year conversation. You got Tannehill who's playing his first playoff game, with even a bigger chip on his shoulder. And he's kind of in the defensive player of the year conversation. You got Tannehill, who's playing his first playoff game, if I'm not mistaken, I think, up in Foxborough.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So you know how those go up against Belichick. So I'm excited to see how the Patriots DBs come out. Who else has books? So how about Houston? DeAndre Hopkins, they got all the weapons down there. And Deshaun Watson has been hot. Playing against his Buffalo Bills defense that has been stingy at times, but then they've had a couple games where they've let down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:17 How do you feel that matchup could potentially go? Well, I hope Trey White follows Hopkins all over the field. Trey White has had had all pro years. Well, I'm tired of the leader picks He's been a dominant force in that secondary. They got great safeties high and poor here They fly around make plays still got Jerry Hughes coming off the edge former teammate So I'm excited about that matchup Bill O'Brien, you know The Texans seem to find their way in every year and they compete and I And D-Hop, you know, he's there for the big moment. He hasn't had a huge year this year.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know, Watson hopefully makes a little more of a name for himself in the playoffs this year. So I'm excited to see the boys go at it, man, especially that defensive backfield in Buffalo. Hopkins has, like, 5X hands. Uh-huh, yeah. Is that something that you, like, as a DB, you're like, all right, I'm going against a guy with little mongoloid hands.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Like is that something you have to think about? I mean, it just makes his catch radius even bigger. And, I mean, he already doesn't drop anything. He has those big, then he wears the red gloves that make him look even bigger. But he's a beast, man. And I love to see him play. I love to see him compete. He comes out there and shows his best every week.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And same with a guy like Trey White. So you love those type of matchups at this point in the season. I have a question for you. I saw Tyron Matthew was wearing bright yellow gloves. The other team was wearing a dark color. I said that that was a message he was sending that he doesn't care if they can see him holding
Starting point is 00:27:43 or his hands on it because normally an idea of a DB is to wear the same color glove as the other team, because then your hands can kind of match in with the jersey. Am I wrong in thinking that? Yeah, some guys use that method. I know Mike Adams is a big proponent of that, our former Pro Bowl safety teammate. He always, you know, if we were playing a team that was wearing a white jersey, we'd try to wear white gloves.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But Matthew's having a hell of a year this year, man. He's changed kind of the whole outlook on that Chiefs defense, which makes them, you know, one of the second scariest teams, obviously, seeding-wise in the AFC. And I think that's the only team that can beat Baltimore this year on that side of things. There's looking arrows going up, up, up
Starting point is 00:28:29 in Kansas City, man. I love our Honey Badger plays. You just said the Patriots are out. I heard it. Darius, we were talking about Houston and Hopkins, so Will Fuller is questionable. How big of a difference is it when you have a wide receiver that can take the top off
Starting point is 00:28:46 a defense versus if it's just Hopkins and you can potentially double him all day? How big of that is the thing for the secondary? It's real big. You saw that was an issue, I think, the last time he played the Colts, for sure. I feel like Hopkins, I mean, not Hopkins, but Fuller is questionable every other week with a soft tissue injury or growing a hamstring or something. But he's definitely a guy that you got to pay attention to. You got to keep a safety, a deep safety has to know where he is because he can hit you for 70, 60 yards on any given time.
Starting point is 00:29:16 So that definitely changed a lot of things for the secondary. Just being aware of not only where Hopkins, a guy like Hopkins is, who isn't really known for being a burner. He can kill you in a big play, but usually he's breaking the tackle or doing something like that. But Fuller can, you know, one play, he can take it to the house. Okay, let's talk about this New Orleans Saints-Vikings game. Everybody just assumes that the Vikings are going to get buzzsawed out there. My question is deeper than that.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I think we all do. How do you, as a DB, know that Michael Thomas is going to get 10 catches and let it happen? Is that all play design? What is that? Why is he always open? It's tough.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He's a big body, and he has good feet, good hands. He catches literally everything that Breeze throws to him. It's nuts that he can produce on that high level. But, you know, you have other matchups on the field that you have to worry about like Jared Cook. You can't just leave a linebacker on him or a box safety on him. Alvin Kamara, you have to be aware of where he is coming out of the backfield. So you have to kind of put, it's kind of like when AB was in Pittsburgh. He was a dominant receiver, but you still had to worry about what Le'Veon was. As far as the run game, you couldn't keep a linebacker on him in coverage, so that changes things up because there's a lot of stress on the defense.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But Mike Thomas, I think he'll continue to put up those numbers, but they will go down a little bit in the playoffs because now it's one-game seasons, and now everybody sees the Super Bowl with the Patriots and the Rams, even a guy as great as Aaron Donald. Like, he was limited in that Super Bowl because coaches and players put so much more focus now on stopping that, you know, that top dog. So, if Michael Thomas continues to have the type of season he's had, I mean, that's off to him, man. That's insane what he's done. Let's talk about, we got a couple minutes here.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Will you stick around through the break to start the next hour with us? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, we got a couple minutes left here, and then we'll just run right up to it. Has there ever been a player that you played against or game plan for that the idea was we need to eliminate this guy completely? And how did you go about doing that? Oh, man. Like Gronk, for instance.
Starting point is 00:31:16 The one guy that comes to mind first is crazy. It's Antonio Brown. But I feel like he still always killed us. Always? Yeah, always. But the difference there was you had a guy like Big Ben who would extend the play and kind of make not the original. He can run a dig route or a curl route.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He can be double teamed. But now when he's running three or four routes down the field, he just throws a ball. That becomes very, very difficult to stop. Another guy would be a guy like Hopkins. Like, you got to take a guy like that out. You know he's going to get, you know, 14, 15 targets a game. And if you limit that production by that player, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:55 the likelihood of you guys winning that game, it goes up a lot. How much are they accurate on television with who is to blame for a blown coverage? I feel like there's a lot of guys. I feel like there's a lot of guys taking fire from commentators that don't always deserve it. They're probably about as accurate as who to blame when it's a missed field goal. Sometimes it's the holder, sometimes the kicker,
Starting point is 00:32:16 sometimes the defensive player just makes a great play and changes the trajectory of the ball. It's almost that technical on the back end because even somebody who played, I played nine years in the league, played literally every position back there. And I can't just look at a coverage and know for sure how that player was coached up that week, what adjustments was made to stop something. I can get a pretty good idea and obviously the more familiar I am with the system, if I watch Minuski's Redskins or Chuck in Chicago, you can see – or New England. I can see a lot of similarities of the things I was coached up on.
Starting point is 00:32:49 But for the most part, it's really tough to get – that's why I like the PFF ratings and things like that. I mean, they're good to add to watching film and analytics and all that stuff. But you kind of got to be in those meeting rooms, in a sense, to really know whose fault it is to blame. I was always so intrigued by that because the commentators were like, well, he was obviously passing them off. I was like, was he supposed to?
Starting point is 00:33:11 How do we know if he was supposed to do that? I have no idea. And then the body language, man, like the DBs are funny, man, because it's something that we used to give actually body language fine. So if I'm expecting, like you to saw Ramsey throw his rookie safety under the bus the other
Starting point is 00:33:27 day. Fine. I'd like to see a guy turn around like, yo, what the, you know, what the fuck, you're gonna be over the top. Sometimes it's like, hey, bro, my bad, bro, I'm wrapping up. We're out. Hey, we just went right to a break right there. We're at a break right now. Hey, we just went right to a break. You crushed. Sorry for the interruption.
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Starting point is 00:35:18 That's 100% my fault. You talked about, I asked you a question about how on TV, commentators bury members of the secondary, whether it's the safety was supposed to cover deep or the corner was supposed to run with them and all this stuff. And I asked you how accurate those are. And you said nobody knows what the call actually was supposed to be unless you're in the meeting room and know who's doing what.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Because coverages can change. Even the standard cover, too, can change team-to change team to team base then you mentioned something that was very intriguing to me it was a body language fine which i absolutely love this because that is i think how the commentators decide whose fault it was who was a lot a lot of the time yes who was the most upset they're obviously not in the wrong it must be the other person and you said you guys had an answer for that oh yeah guys guys definitely do that all the time now that was that was defined because you don't ever want to um want to throw any throw one of you guys under the bus um you good yeah i'm good you're just behind me here i'm trying to move you out from behind me it's kind of there's like three d butts it's kind of a weird thing. It's good. Let me figure it out.
Starting point is 00:36:26 But, yeah, so you never want to throw your guys under the bus, man. Like I said, that Jalen Ramsey, when I saw that, that really bothered me, especially with it being a rookie. You know, the reporters or whoever coming there and asking you to say, man, we got to watch the film, check it out, let Booger figure it out, you know, let whoever come up with their whole analyst on whatever coverage and say what it is but the overall coverage is cover one cover
Starting point is 00:36:50 two cover three you can kind of identify those but like you said it's tweaks within every coverage depending on who you're playing Dehop, Stephon Diggs whoever's in the playoffs you're going to tweak certain things and make sure you take care of that guy in every coverage. Okay whenever you watch games I assume you had the same thing that i had so when i retired and i
Starting point is 00:37:08 started watching games i couldn't stand listening to the commentators talk about kicking and punting couldn't stand it i mean i was these people know nothing that's why like the ap all pro are a bunch of media people talking about punters and kickers they have no idea what they're talking about it feels like there's zero defensive backs that really talk on television am i accurate in saying like who's the guy that speaks other than deon sanders who does his own show are there any defensive backs that are in the in the booth or anything like that no not now i don't see any color guys you know talking real play-by-play. Ryan Clark obviously does a great job talking about football. Foxworth does a great job talking about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But as far as getting into coverages and who's supposed to be where and how do you coach up certain coverages in certain zone areas and things like that, I don't see anybody really digging into it. Besides everything, DV Show. Check us out, baby. Yeah, I was about to say, you should start diving into that. There's a real need for that because there's a lot going on in the back end where in one mistake could be a touchdown every single play. There's a lot of high-pressure moments.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Now let's move forward past the DB. We have a great playoff run that's about to happen. The NFC is stacked. The AFC runs through Baltimore. Everybody's excited about lamar jackson and that baltimore ravens team for good reason how do you see the playoffs panning out and who's your team that you're excited to watch i mean baltimore has been hot all year um and they they you know when it comes to playoff football championship football it's about you know running
Starting point is 00:38:41 the ball and stopping the run and they they do a good job of controlling the ball. So when they're playing dynamic offenses, they limit that quarterback and how many possessions you can get. And then they're playing dominant on the defensive side as well. And they got a ton of DBs who want – they got 12 pro bowlers, but a lot of those guys actually deserve Marlon Humphrey, Peter since he's got over there being unstoppable. Earl Thomas, one of the best safeties this decade.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So a lot of guys over there deserving a lot of credit. So taking the Baltimore from the AFC side and San Fran, San Fran from the NFC side, man. They've been – I feel like they've kind of slipped a little here and there, but they've been consistently pretty dominant, especially on the defensive side of the ball. What was it? It was an eighth of an inch from losing to the Seattle Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:39:31 An eighth of an inch, by the way, for losing to the Seattle Seahawks and that Russell Wilson team, which somehow end up in every game. I have no idea how that Seahawks team ends up in every game. I have no clue. You got Beast Bowl fresh off the couch, Turbo getting a shot back in the league, man. I mean, I was going to. I just wanted to see Beast Bowl just break off a 50-yard. I swear I wanted to see it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Even though he looked like he put on a solid 50 pounds. Fresh off the couch. You know what he's been doing. But it was fun to see it, man. Russell Wilson, he's going to make it a game. But you know that bye week, man. Getting that bye week is huge this time of year. So I think whoever won that game, obviously Seattle's banged up.
Starting point is 00:40:13 But it will make their path a lot easier. And Baltimore has had a ton of rest over these last three weeks. They played a Thursday night game a couple weeks ago. So they had a 10-day break. And then they rested their starters the last week. And then they got a bye week. So they'll be 10-day break. And then, you know, they rested their starters the last week, and then they got a bye week. So they'll be well-rested. So that'll be scary.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Will a two-and-a-half-week rest be a problem, or do you think that's good for them? No, I don't think it'll be a problem, man. You know, when you're playing one of those, you know, like a Peyton Manning-type offense where it's a lot of timing and routes and, you know, here and and there everything is kind of that two-week break can kind of hurt you a little bit but the type of ball control offense that they play that their physicals brand of football they've got the more rest of those physical guys
Starting point is 00:40:55 get that old line those running backs those receivers block down for those tight ends the more rest of those guys the defense the pass rush the coverage guys, it's more hell that's going to be on those offenses. So it's like a golf swing. Like you don't want to take two weeks off whenever you're in the middle of golfing averagely well because you'll lose it. And whenever you're on those timing routes as a quarterback, if you take two weeks off, you can lose it. Because somebody might get faster or slower, by the way, which throws everything off.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And you're saying in that style of offense, it's more of a feel anyways. It's Lamar Jackson making decisions. Rest can actually help because it's going to make him think faster, think cleaner, and everybody else do their job better. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and Lamar does a lot of damage from the pocket. He does a great job of identifying things pre-snap, identifying pressures. But he does a good job of knowing kind of the area
Starting point is 00:41:46 he's going to throw in why don't they spy hey why don't they spy him with a slot what's that why don't they spy him with like a slot i mean you can do that but then now now now my little ass would be in the box and you got you know mark ingram and the d lineman at fullback and three tight ends so it's like where do you put him in the run game? Then once he drops back to pass, now these guys are at a disadvantage. So it's a tough – it's something New England used to do, and they were really good. They'll put two or three tight ends on the field,
Starting point is 00:42:14 and you think they're going to run the ball. And then they'll line up in empty and put Julian Edelman at, you know, the number three, and now you've got a big-ass linebacker on him. He doesn't have a chance to stop him. So they kind of – the offense has the upper hand with that because they can dictate your personnel but uh when it's obvious passing situation you can put a a smaller guy on him just to track him down but the what he's been doing to these dvs i don't think it'll help much bro hey he's been he's been shaking people like they're white guys he's been shaking folks everybody everybody's a white guy in lamar
Starting point is 00:42:45 jackson it's not fair man he's one of those guys you gotta take your shot at man you just gotta take your shot i hope somebody's hauling their ass you know whether it's inside out or outside in but there's no breaking down and wrapping that guy up one-on-one all right well uh everything db the podcast i can't wait to listen to it more and more of it i can't wait to watch you break down more uh clips with a red laser. That's going to be good. Red laser. Red laser. Yeah, the green laser, I couldn't see it. The red laser, though, I think you'll get your point
Starting point is 00:43:12 across because what you were saying in there was magic and I can't wait for you to take the same path that Orlovsky took, that other people took because this is something that isn't talked about enough and every time I listen to you speak I really learn something, so I appreciate you. Appreciate that, man. I love hearing Dan uh dan talk to me about everybody except carson wentz i'm so tired oh my god sick of it i don't need i can't i can't wait until he plays the
Starting point is 00:43:35 seahawks and they go up there and whoop his ass okay so you got the seahawks whooping carson wentz's ass uh you think the saints are beating the Vikings? Yeah. Yeah, I got the Saints beating the Vikings. Tennessee beating New England? No, I got New England winning. Yes. Huge. By at least 10. Oh.
Starting point is 00:43:53 What makes you think that they're going to win by 10? Vrabel said he cut off his penis. It's Tannehill's first playoff experience. He's been in the league for a while. Tannehill, even though I was a Colts fan, I grew up being very, had a heartbeat on the Dolphins. I'm living South Florida. Tannehill, he does
Starting point is 00:44:12 just enough to get you hyped enough to let you out. I'm going New England on that one. Houston, Buffalo, who you got? That's a tough one. I really like Josh Allen. He really stepped his game up this year that defense is tough Frankie John I got it. I'm gonna go Houston. I'm gonna go to home field on this one
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's just strictly because you knew Frank Gore was gonna hear you pick the other team So you had to sell a little bit there for Buffalo. I appreciate you ladies and gentlemen Darius Butler. Thank you TV Happy New Year Bob. Thank you, bro. Same to you for having me, man. Happy New Year, bub. Thank you, bro. Same to you. All right, cheers. He was breaking down film, and he had a laser pointer, but it was a green laser pointer, and it was like mixing in with the field a little bit, and I didn't know who he was talking about, so I felt like, not that I was on some vitamins, so I was listening to what he was
Starting point is 00:45:00 saying, but I was like, who the hell is he talking about? And I saw like these little specks are going around. I'm like, oh, there's a laser pointer out there and i immediately just sent a dm i was like i don't know if it's just me but we need a red laser pointer and just make that happen stat he's very good at it he was the smartest dude on our team for years and years and years it was awesome to watch he talked about first time starters there's three of them this weekend with josh allen uh tannahill and then Wentz as far as first-time playoff starters. They are 14-30 in the playoffs, first-time starters are.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I wonder why. Pressure. It's just a – because you know how you say like from college to NFL, it gets faster, and then everyone in the NFL says regular season to playoffs gets faster. And then playoffs to Super Bowl is just like this insane jump from speed because there's nothing i think that's probably it i guess is everything's faster the pressure though like your first game in the nfl that's probably the most pressure you feel like am i gonna get rich or not off of this like you know what like the eagles have had what six straight playoff games basically the end of the season i mean it's hard it's hard to i've tried to explain this where like i think people when they have to shoot a beer
Starting point is 00:46:09 pong and there's one cup left and the entire party is watching you that feeling of pressure that you have there like how much more can that get you know what i mean like even if you're kicking off a super bowl if i'm sitting at a party like now granted i've kicked off a super bowl so i put into perspective a beer pong shot or something like that and that that's i'm in very rare air to be able to do that and say that but if you've never done that if you're only a beer pong player or you're not a professional athlete those moments of pressure like how much bigger can it really get you know what i mean and i think that's kind of how I've always thought about pressure. As somebody who's almost been maybe too relaxed in situations where I should have been a little bit hyped up,
Starting point is 00:46:50 I think the pressure I don't think is the big deal. I think it might be like, what's that? Oh, pressure. Ivan knows all about that. Well, exactly. Is the pressure, though, mixed with adrenaline? Like I think the adrenaline maybe might be a little more for playoffs. Yeah, I think that's when the experience comes in though
Starting point is 00:47:06 because you've been in the situation before. You know how to handle yourself. You know how to regulate your body and be like, okay, I need to calm down a little bit because if I get too amped, I'm going to overthrow this ball or I'm going to overthink this situation.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know. But then you see some young quarterbacks that just go in there and just light it up. I mean, Ben Roethlisberger did it. Tom Brady did it. I mean, it's very, it's situations are situational.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Dumbest quote of all time, but it plays. But it actually plays. I'll be excited to see with Tannehill because this is almost like a rebirth for Tannehill. Now, if Tannehill was on the Dolphins and was going to play in the playoffs, I would say, yeah, he has no shot, but mostly because Dolphins would never be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Shout out, Gumpy. But now it feels like he almost has this rebirth, like he's this completely new figure. I'm excited to see what he does up there. Love that team. Well, and he's playing with more confidence than he ever has in his career. He also has a monster
Starting point is 00:47:58 in the backfield. He could just go ahead and do this. High 6'6", 250 pound running back that's faster than the other team. That's quite a little safety blanket, but it's the Patriots, dude. Yeah, but Tannehill has played a lot in Gillette, too. It's not like this is his first time up there. He's been there.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Has he ever won? No way. He's 4-7, but I think, yeah, every time they've won has been in Miami. The Miami Miracle is one of those four? That was the last time they played the Patriots was ten hills miami miracle and that was you were in the building oh i was there are you going to the game this weekend no no way smart for the team for the team yeah good for the team not to be there i like the vikings i like the texans i don't i don't love the texans i like the texans i love the saints even though we're friends
Starting point is 00:48:43 with some vikings i just think they're running into a little bit of a destiny thing down there with the Minneapolis miracle, with the ghost pass interference, with all that. I think the Saints are going to make a run at least to the NFC championship. I think they are. Just because Sean Payton and the boys, they've been there, done that. And they're good special teams-wise. The thing that might get the Titans is their kicking game.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Their kicking game might get them. I think they're less than 500 kicking was that the titans yeah they were going for that record 10 kicks or something like that that could be tough so if suck up hasn't figured it out i don't know who's going to do it good conversation there though all right right now we're about to do something that we have yet to do and it's in the spirit of 2020 which our spirit our soul our mantra of 2020 is going to be laugh more hate less work hard cash checks this decade is going to be one that we're going to have the time of our lives we're going to make some money and we're going to enjoy it and in doing so what we're going to do is we're going to give back at a very rapid rate. Zito and I are currently two days into our accountability buddies where we're adding $500 into the kitty whenever we act in a proper fit fashion. Now, does that mean that we're always going to eat healthy?
Starting point is 00:49:55 No. Does that mean we're always going to work out though? Yes. Zito and I have to work out every single day and every single day that both of us as accountability buddies do so we add $500 into a kitty into a pot into a bank that'll accrue and then whenever we finally break and we both suck for a day we're gonna give that away through the cash app now how do we earn more money towards that kitty towards that bank to give away i think it's very simple how about this we have a kid named evan fox in this office he's a lanky white kid from michigan he shoots
Starting point is 00:50:33 no less than 200 basketballs a day whenever he's at the office nba threes all the way to free throws and layups the kid i think could potentially play in the nba especially with the new style he's 145 pounds so he'd get busted in half he would have to eat all the steroids in town but i think his jumper is one that could fit in the nba currently right now we are going to ask foxy and connor to go out to the nba three and if foxy drains an nba three on his first shot. We will add $1,000 into the kitty. Wow. Okay, so it's currently at $1,000 in the kitty because Zito and I worked out two days in a row.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Zito hit some up-downs yesterday and a bike. I hit some up-downs and a little fast feet. The day before, Zito rode a bike all the way through Paris. Oh, yeah. Halfway through. Like he was Lance Armstrong. I did some squats and some running. So there's $1,000
Starting point is 00:51:25 in the kitty right now and if Evan Fox can walk right outside the studio here, grab a basketball and shoot a three and make a three, we'll add another $1,000.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Let's go, Foxy. Good luck out there. Here we go. Evan Foxy and Connor. $1,000. He doesn't have this type of pressure normally when he's shooting.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Ever. Normally he just gets a chance to just hang out and shoot around. We'll cut the camera to him here in a second. January 1st, 2020, Evan Fox has a chance to gain $1,000 for the listeners. He has a chance to gain $1,000 for the people that are sitting at home.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Now we can't see him yet. Now we can. Okay, hold on, Evan. Connor, will you please ask Evan how he's feeling right now? Mr. Fox, how are you doing? That was not the question. I can legitimately say my hands are sweating right now. I've played basketball my entire life, and this is the biggest shot I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I've never had a shot worth $1,000. I've never had a shot with this many eyes on me. So here we go. Knees weak, arms are heavy. Filing on a sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready to drop bombs.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh! Oh no! Oh my God! They're in complete air ball. Foxy, take a lap, cuz. Take a lap. Go outside with the homeless next to the methadone clinic. That was a $1,000 shot that didn't even hit rim in front of the millions
Starting point is 00:52:57 and millions of people. Not only did you let down the people, not only did you let down FanDuel Sportsbook, which has their logo all over where you just shot, you let down the entire state of Michigan. How can Michigan go down any further? The Lions stink. The Pistons stink. The Tigers stink. The Red Wings stink. Now, they have to know that their chosen son from Michigan State who has a great beard and a great jump shot with $1,000 on the line throws up a massive, disgusting, despicable air ball for nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I can't even lie, guys. I don't have a lot, but I do have a jumper. No! I just put it on display. It was very embarrassing. You know what I didn't account a lot, but I do have a jumper. No! I just put it on display. It was very embarrassing. You know what I didn't account for, though? I didn't account for the adrenaline. There was a lot of the line here.
Starting point is 00:53:52 My adrenaline just shoved that ball through the backboard. Yeah, we saw it. All right. Well, you should probably lose 1,000. Evan Fox. Yeah, maybe there should be a little give and take there, a little bit of pressure. We didn't add
Starting point is 00:54:05 that on man that was tough wasn't it that was the worst shot i've ever seen him shoot in the history of this office without question he held it up too yeah did you see him because it looked good until he held that thing up wow hey that was tough that's bad radio but you just i mean there was a chance for another thousand dollars to go into the kitty to give away to the listeners, to the followers, to the subscribers, you name it. And their guy, Evan Fox, which by all accounts, everybody says is their favorite guy, just let him hold down. You guys saw me hold that thing up. I actually thought that was going in.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It looked good. It was straight at it. But like I said, that adrenaline starts kicking. You throw that thing through the backboard. Oh, my God. That was embarrassing. All right. Get them tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I just can't. The state of Michigan doesn't deserve this. This is a terrible way to start 2020. Yeah. Not for us. No, no. Connor was with you. So he, I guess.
Starting point is 00:55:01 But for you two, yeah. I mean, two thirds of the pub. You lose your house and your jumper. That's a bad way to start 2020. Well, that money was going to go to a good cause, so it doesn't only affect us. That's why I'm disappointed in myself. Way to be a hero.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'm all about you making yourself feel worse. You know, since I've been traveling and on the road and not able to really focus on my diet on a regular fashion, kind of like I had hoped that I would and wished, I haven't been getting enough vegetables, which means I haven't been getting enough vitamins, which means I haven't been getting enough nutrients, which means my body isn't performing up to snuff. Isn't that right, Nick? It's tough. It's tough on the road.
Starting point is 00:55:52 It takes a toll on your body. Treat your body like a temple. It'll take care of you. But we're not able to do that all the time. Your body's a wonderland. And your body is also one that you should take care of. And to do so, you got to know what's going in is going to help. And sometimes you can't prepare all the time.
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Starting point is 00:57:12 Oh, look at me taking care of me because of my friends at athletic greens. I'm such an adult. Athletic greens. Let's get to some notable news with Nick, by the way. The United States Army soldiers could no longer use TikTok on government-owned phones following a decision to ban the app. The move comes amidst among worries that the video app owned by Beijing-based ByteDance could compromise national security. Okay. So we have a conspiracy theorist in our office that is heavy, heavy into conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:57:49 our office that is heavy heavy in the conspiracy theory he went on a 45-minute rant about how tick-tock is ultimately going to be the end of the american society and american civilization as we know it because all of those videos are going back to a chinese server which means that they can document track and keep everybody's information, their movements, their faces, their sounds, and create artificial intelligent human beings to send videos back and set people up to say bad things or do bad things and put those humans in hostage-like situations. And he actually believes that TikTok will be the death of the America that we know today. That was two weeks ago he went on this rant. So last night, Diggs found an article.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He sent it to the group text that said, the U.S. Army is no longer allowing soldiers to use the TikTok because of everything that he said. I have never seen somebody feel more vindicated in their entire life than our conspiracy theorist friend. And by the way, maybe he's on to something but i don't fully get how they could track your movements from your tiktoks and recreate you and all these fakes deep fakes are scary they say deep fakes are going to be the death of everybody
Starting point is 00:58:55 because they get a deep fake of uh digs saying or doing something that could cost him his entire job entire jeopardy put him in a compromising position bing bang boom he's out who's next zito oh boy they can put zito in a lot i don't know i don't know if they'll be able to get the accurate da but i think i guess i guess deep fakes are a problem and if they're saving all those videos to their server i guess that's what everybody sees as the problem yeah this is basically out of our government's hands if something were to go wrong. Notable news, man. I will say, though, they put Prince on top of his stage once after he passed away. Yeah. Think about that. Michael Jackson
Starting point is 00:59:30 as well. And Tupac. Tupac, yeah. That might have been him, though. It might have been. No, it probably was. Just with the weird lighting around it. By the way, those mammograms? Hologram. Mammogram happens. Those are booby checks. There it is.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Get your breasts checked, though. Get your mammograms out. Get your mammograms. More important than the holograms. Get your mammograms. But those holograms are very impressive. Yeah. And they talk about how expensive they are.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I don't fully understand how that works, but I would love to get a mammogram of somebody right here. Holograms. Oh, yeah. There it is. I wish me and Steve Jobs could just do the show together every day me and old steve just up here standing walking around you'd hate him you want me to look into it yeah yeah look into it you'd hate him any other notable news uh let's talk some new year's news
Starting point is 01:00:13 gronk obviously last night with the spike of the lego steve harvey head what'd you think about that people are saying he's the worst gronk or harvey people are saying that gronk is the worst who's saying that people who wait we've done the segment here people were saying no no on the internet i didn't see that a lot of people loved it i thought except for steve harvey steve harvey did not why you why'd you do that man can we play it yeah yeah we should courtesy oftesy of Fox, obviously. Courtesy of Fox. Courtesy of Fox. But the Steve Harvey Lego Gronk Spike was one that I don't think Steve Harvey was fully prepared for. Steve Harvey was trying to be as professional as possible, hosting his 50th show of the day. And he saw this Lego set that was put together, probably five, six hours it took to put together, just gets slaughtered right on the floor in front of him. And he was at that moment, he said, I ain't working with him anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Steve was definitely taking that Lego thing of him home and putting it in his house. For sure. We had a guy that wanted to build me as a Lego guy. This guy sent me like six, seven DMs on Instagram. He's like, Pat, I think it would be awesome to build you as a Lego. And I didn't open it or read it, nothing like that. He sends me and I was very persistent. I finally, he's very good though. He's very, very persistent. I guess he's talented. So Nick, finally, Nick,
Starting point is 01:01:35 finally, Nick finally starts getting messages from this guy. And this guy starts messaging Nick. He's like, I want to build Pat as a Lego. I want to build Pat as a Lego. We're like, all right, damn it. Just answer the guy. We'll'll do it and we respond I'm like okay what do you need from us the guy's like ten thousand dollars like what are you so hold on excuse me so hold on how does this work so I couldn't even fathom how much this Lego of Steve Harvey's head that Gronk just spiked on at least it's probably ten thousand dollars which I respect even more by the way out of Gronk but there's some people that are saying like why'd you do that and those people are steve harvey and steve harvey's family run this thing z no sound what are you doing
Starting point is 01:02:16 are you serious? I don't want to work with him no more. Why is he here? Why are you here? What is wrong with you? You're mentally imbalanced. Why are you right here? He's just dancing on his grave, too.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You know how hard it is to get them probably going. I hated it. He didn't toast them either at the New Year's. There was a toast they did. Yeah, Steve Harvey did not toast Gronk after that, I believe. I'm Gronk. Do you think Gronk was drunk? I would.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I would assume. I mean, Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen. Oh, they were hammered. I loved every second of that. I think, yeah, I think there's definitely intoxication involved. It's New Year's Eve. You're on television. You're celebrating amongst like 700 billion people.
Starting point is 01:03:18 My issue was they had Twitch from Ellen DeGeneres' show on the NBC one. It was Carson Daly, Diggs' guy, and Julianne Hough hosting from like a stand. And then Twitch was down with the people. They would throw it down to him. And he would talk to them like, yeah, we're excited. We're excited. Like just one time I want somebody to be like, why are you here? Why in a million years would you go to that? Is there anybody in this room that would ever think about going to that?
Starting point is 01:03:39 No. Never. I bet never. Never in a million years would I go to that thing. It seems like everything that is a nightmare in society. You can't move. You can't piss. You can't see anything.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It's raining. It's cold. And you have to fake laugh at things at all times. I don't fully get it. You have to get there at 7 a.m. too to get your spot. People are waiting there all day to be in those positions. That's a special group of people. That's the parade people too.
Starting point is 01:04:04 They're the same people as parade people. I don't fully understand them. So if I ever got that gig, I think that's my first. That's probably my first and only question throughout the entire night. Hi, what's your name? Oh, we're talking. And Beth, where are you from? Iowa.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Oh, you drove here from Iowa? Yeah. Why? Why? Why did you do that? Oh, it's a tradition. You know, well, there's a lot of bad traditions that got broke there. If you could drop me in at 11.50 p.m. there, for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Would love to be there for the ball drop in Times Square. Really? Get elbowed and stuff like that? If I was there for 10 minutes, yeah. But then how about getting out? Oh, no. I said drop me in. I'm definitely getting plucked out, too.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Celebration here. You want choppered in and choppered out in 10 minutes? Well, that's too you want celebration here you want choppered in choppered out in 10 minutes well that's just not reasonable i don't get to the chopper but it is insane to me because they're all fox was there abc was there nbc was there cnn was there they're all in the same spots and i think they're i don't know it's very very interesting also it's not like there's like catering or anything how are these people eating and drinking all day? Cliff bars. A lot of cliff bars. There's street vendors.
Starting point is 01:05:07 There has to be. Can they even see the show, though? Or are they just watching the ball? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. And they act as if watching the ball is the big thing. It's like, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I can see it at home, too. You should see it. I get a close-up view at home. You guys got binoculars? Because they have these cameras that zoom in. I don't know. It's all very interesting. They should all be eviscerated.
Starting point is 01:05:29 As soon as that ball drops, they should all just be wiped out. Oh, come on, man. It's not a bad idea. There's no way you're allowed to say what you just said.
Starting point is 01:05:35 While fireworks are synonymous with New Year's Eve, noise and air pollution are leading some cities to experiment with drone light shows instead of the traditional fireworks.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm in with this. 2020. Have you seen the drone displays? They're pretty cool. I the olympics and i believe selene dion has some in her uh concert performance wow sam sent me sam went to selene dion whenever she was here in indianapolis she has a video these drones come out as if they're like her posse and they like start dancing and then they surrounded her with like wings at one point the way they're able to control these drones pretty pretty sweet the olympic drone thing was awesome too back in the day and i guess not back in a couple years ago but i don't know if that does i mean these are really really cool
Starting point is 01:06:15 but like it takes out the thrill of like a possibility of blowing your arm off and i mean it's just not exciting yeah there was some guns being fired off last night around my house very interesting because i've seen live pd i don't know where those bullets come down do they though yeah everybody says what comes up must comes down but todd didn't you shoot somebody when you shot it up in the air todd you shot somebody no no i didn't shoot anybody i have shot up in the air before i I will admit. You've done a desk pop? Yeah. When's the last time you did a desk pop?
Starting point is 01:06:47 A couple field pops. No desk pops. There was a lot of pops last night around my house. Yeah. Probably the same guy that's driving my garbage cans into my room. Ironically, also last night, there was a fire at a German zoo, which killed more than 30 animals that were sparked by their New Year's Eve celebration. Why?
Starting point is 01:07:02 Why? That's not notable news. It's terrible news. It's terrible news. It's news. Get on a break. Why? Why? That's not notable news. It's terrible news. It's terrible news. Get on a break. Put music on. That's not news. Shout out Illinois, too.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Oh, yeah. Illinois. Notable news. Illinois. Marijuana's legal. Mm-hmm. Hour and a half drive left. So a lot of the states surrounding us now are legal.
Starting point is 01:07:22 North, east, and west. Legal around Indiana. Getting squeezed out. a lot of the states surrounding us now are legal north east and west legal around indiana getting squeezed out we got gambling you know live table games also in indiana starting today you got fireworks and we got a very healthy zoo jason garrett still hanging around the dallas cowboys because although his contract does expire in a couple weeks he could be given a heads up early that he's been relieved of his duties and will not be retained or brought back but that has yet to happen why digs uh i said that i think that jason garrett is going into these meetings and he's crying and and we. And we know from experience it's very hard to break up with somebody when they're crying.
Starting point is 01:08:08 All these are possible factors. I'm excited to see who lands where. I think today is going to be a big day when it comes to hiring and deciding situations around the National Football League. Speaking of big day, in the first hour, Evan Fox had a chance to make $1,000 to go into a kitty, which will be rewarded to listeners and followers and subscribers and swiper-uppers and everything like that after Zito and I ruin our Accountability Buddy program.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Accountability Buddy, Zito and I, for every day that we work out this 2020 and continue to dominate this fit lifestyle, we will put $500 into a kitty. Until we completely crash, we will then give all the money away via Cash App. Currently, there's $1,000 in there because we are two days for two days. Foxy had a chance in the first hour to gain another $1,000 into that kitty by making one very easy NBA three-point shot, a shot that Foxy shoots no less than 150 times a day,
Starting point is 01:09:08 and in the first hour, he airballed it. Now, here we are, 11.45, first show of the brand-new year, and we're giving Foxy another shot from the same place for $500 this time to be added to the kitty. $500 on the line, one shot. What are you going to do with it, Foxy? I'll tell you what. My brain's been a pretzel since that miss.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I haven't even focused on this show at all. I know we had Darius Butler on, and I don't even know what he said. I'm sure he was great. But I just appreciate so much that you're giving me another opportunity, because if you didn't, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I mean, if I miss this, I still won't be able to sleep at night. So hopefully it goes better. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:48 $500 on the line. Foxy and Connor will head out to the NBA three-point range. We will take a call while handling this. Let's go to Jared in Phoenix. Jared, what's going on, pal? Patrick, how's it going? Not bad. How are you, bub?
Starting point is 01:10:02 I'm doing well. Hey, what is it? Thank you for your hospitality. It's cheese a bowl. I felt like I was the only one representing the brand there. Thanks for taking a picture with me. Oh, hey. Great meeting you in person. You look damn good.
Starting point is 01:10:16 No. The better looking version of you. Quote Patrick McPhee. He is. He had to sleeve us for the brand one right to my left. He has this good beard, though. He's much more attractive than I. It was great meeting you, Jared.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I digress. I think you're much better looking than I am, but whatever. Either way, I wanted to shout out Evan Fox. He had a great conversation with him, but then he went and bricked it. I'm glad you're giving him a... It wasn't even a brick, by the way. It wasn't even a brick, by the way, Jared. It was a full full embarrassing air ball one
Starting point is 01:10:45 that the entire arena if he was playing basketball would have chanted immediately air ball air ball every time foxy got the ball for the rest of that game and any future games that crowd would have chanted air ball air ball foxy would have had to go to bed With the sound of that chant Ringing in his ears for the rest Ten years of his life And that's why we're giving him another shot, Jared But some people are saying
Starting point is 01:11:14 Not me Some people are saying Worst shot of the decade Alright, let's get to it Foxy, are you out there? Alright, boys All right, let's get to it. Foxy, are you out there? Let's go. All right, boys. Like I said, I appreciate you giving me another opportunity.
Starting point is 01:11:32 It literally can't get much worse than the first one. Pressure makes diamonds. Diamonds last forever. Lock in. Okay, that was Macho Scotty Smalls. I don't know how he has anything to do with it. Wait, Foxy, you're not just, oh. You're not just lining up and shooting.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Foxy was trying to get a quick drug off there, which is a bunch of BS. Foxy, Jared in Phoenix, Arizona, who's a different time zone and a different climate than us, said that your shot was the worst shot of the decade, and the decade just began. I'm about 100% sure he was right, actually. Yeah, Jared was 100% right. Jared knows what bad shots look like because he has to watch the Phoenix Suns play all the time.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I don't think you could even get a job with the Phoenix Suns after that last shot. Excited to see what you do with this one, though, for $500. All right, let's go. Evan Fox hands the microphone back to Boston Connor. He's got Air Force Ones on on and a hoodie and he lines up oh my god cut the feed cut the feet he's walking out i think he's walking out of the front door short left brick last time he went air ball far this time short left brick we're sorry listeners we're sorry followers we're sorry subscribers zito and i are trying to do our best to raise money to give away to you and evan fox is just
Starting point is 01:12:54 trying to ruin it at all stops that's unbelievable have you ever seen a kid shoot that terribly. No. What happened? He's outside the door. He's locked out. Take a lap. We'll see him tomorrow. Let's get to the phones. Tanner in Columbia. What's going on, pal?
Starting point is 01:13:15 Hey, Pat. You talk about kickers needing that clutch gene. You know, after he gets bodied in Yankee Stadium and then air balls one and bricks the other. I think Foxy's just missing the clutch team. Tanner in South Carolina from the top rope. From the top rope. Well, that's it
Starting point is 01:13:36 for our first show of the 2020 year. Hope you enjoyed it. Darius Butler was incredible. Good DB conversation there. I hope you enjoyed the notable news, learned a little bit about life. We talked about coaches a little bit. It was a lot of fun for us. I hope you enjoyed it as well.
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