The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1481 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, Week 18 NFL Recap, Adam Schefter, Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 18 of the NFL season as the playoff fields and matchups are set, and we also have several Head ...Coach’s and GM’s getting fired. Joining the show to chat about all the different potential Head Coach and GM openings and who might still be getting let go is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, Heisman Trophy winner, presumptive #1 pick of the NFL Draft, and QB of the Indiana Hoosiers, Fernando Mendoza joins the show to chat about IU’s massive win in the Rose Bowl, his style of play, if they can take anything from the previous Oregon game, what he does with the boys in his free time, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this massive overreaction, Black Monday. January 5th, 2026. This program begins now. Football! It is magical, and the NFL has wrapped up its regular season. Congratulations to the NFL. Woo! Congratulations. Ratings were up into the right.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Obviously, football was magical this year, but today is a day that some guys and their families are. going to be told you're getting the hell out of this town. There's some, ladies and gentlemen, we have breaking news. Jonathan Gannon has been fired as the Arizona Cardinals head coach. Arizona closed this season with nine straight losses, ultimately costing Gannon his job. Cardinals GM Monty also for it will spearhead the search for a new head coach. Head coach fired GM stays. What do they do with Kyler Murray going forward? Who knows? What do the Cardinals look like going forward? Who knows, but what we do know, Jonathan Gannon has been fired today. That means his entire coaching staff's been fired. All their families have been fired. They're going to have to
Starting point is 00:01:06 pick up and find a new. That is the life of a coach. We'd like to say Jonathan Gannon, good luck wherever you go next. Good luck. Young lad. A lot of young lads on our coaching staff, obviously not able to get it figured out down there. Losing nine straight is certainly something that would chatter about a conversation about being fired. But there are some other teams who lose seven, eight straight, and that doesn't happen. Now, on that note, there's our already been a few coaches fired today. There's already been a few coaches fired this season, and that takes it up to six, I do believe, in total
Starting point is 00:01:34 because Dayball was fired during a regular season, as was Brian Callahan. Raheem Morris, it was announced last night was fired from the Atlanta Falcons. Kevin Stefanski this morning fired from the Cleveland Browns. I felt like everybody knew that was coming. Both Schaefter and Jay Glazer yesterday were like, Stafansky's
Starting point is 00:01:50 he'll be a hot name on the market whenever, that's kind of how they were talking about him and then Pete Carroll won and done at Las Vegas. All his other assistants had been fired and that team had been asked. So we assumed there was a chance of one and done would be happening for Pete Carroll.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It does. What does Tom Brady and how Mark Davis do going forward? Hopefully they summon the power of how Davis and get it going. And now Jonathan Gannon, and that's six head coaches who have been fired.
Starting point is 00:02:13 That means a lot of building having a lot of turnover. General manager is also being talked about at this exact moment. Oh, yeah, and wild car weekends coming up, which follows college football semi-final games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah. Unreal. Yeah. Thursday, college football playoff semifinal. What? Friday, college football playoffs semifinal. What? Saturday, two super wild card games.
Starting point is 00:02:34 What? Sunday, three super wild card games. What? And then Monday, one, super wild card football games. Whenever you talk about it being a great time to be alive, we're talking about right the fuck now. Ladies and gentlemen, the NFL season's over, but it's just getting started. Who will climb Lombardi Mountain become a world champion?
Starting point is 00:02:51 Who will try to find what they have to do to become relevant in the conversation of greatness in the greatest league on earth? shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Boys, good luck to both your teams. Thank you very much, man. You too. Just in everything going forward. Good luck. That's true.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Carly Arce, one of the big three owners of the Indianapolis Colts will be speaking at 2.30 Eastern Time. I believe she has a press conference. She's going to go over everything. I assume that went into deciding to keep Chris Ballard and Shane Steak and this news was broke. Less than a minute after losers of her seventh eighth straight game. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Mm-hmm. Tough finish. Quick thinkers. Eight and one. Decisive. Hell of a start. Might have found their guy moving forward. Okay, Riley Leonard is a guy.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And since he is a guy, what are we doing? I just assume Riley couldn't get the snap off. I assume Riley had no idea what the offense was. We got to bring in Phil Rivers. Riley had a little bit of a bum knee. Okay, he was injured, so obviously we had to do something. But then we bring in Phil Rivers, it's like, all right, this must mean Riley's not ready for the moment. He is.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Took on the best defense in football. Had a couple dimes. Went for 200 some plus. had a couple touchdowns running all over the place. These Riley Leonard are a guy going forward. Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard will be the ones deciding. They are the ones that drafted them and developing just like they have for the last nine years here in Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:04:07 with zero AFC South championships. Obviously, I'm a little bummed out because the playoffs are a special time. If your team is in, you should feel excited. Because any of these teams can win a Super Bowl. There's only a couple of teams I think we all hold high and above everybody else. But any given Sunday, Saturday or Friday or Thursday, whatever these wild card games or playoff games happen, you could lose. This is truly up for grabs this year and it's a special time to be a football fan
Starting point is 00:04:31 and congrats to one half of the hammer. God Cowboys AP TOE. Not only do you have to submit all your AP votes for awards and such, but also to Pittsburgh Steelers and a thriller on Sunday night football against an arch rival, a game that was win and make the playoffs and host a playoff game and lose, go home and probably coach gets fired. Yeah. That was kind of the conversation that was happening between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens last night and congratulations to the Pittsburgh Steelers after a missed kick. That thing looked like a little...
Starting point is 00:05:02 Whoa. It might have been a little... A divine intervention? In the name of the patron. Yeah, Enumina Patra, it's fairly a spirit of Santa. Father Maximilian Maxwell, okay? Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:13 From our source. Cid is. Potentially subbing in for another priest on this particular evening. Uh-huh. Was down there decided to go ahead and throw a little bit of the holy water on her, and then you tell me that ball just
Starting point is 00:05:25 right to the right like that. Tyler Loop has been an incredible kicker for the Baltimore Ravens all year. He is a rook-ass rook so you don't know what he is until the big moment comes. Well, in the biggest moment against Pittsburgh Steelers,
Starting point is 00:05:36 hit it and you win, miss it and you lose in Pittsburgh and they dance on your face and maybe Aaron Rogers, who knows what his future is going to hold. He has another football game. Mike Tomlin, who knows what his future is going to hold.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Jake Glazer mentioned something about TV. He's very tight with Mike Tomlin. So maybe Coach Tomlin is thinking about TV after this year. Maybe he's done with being a coach. I don't know if Ingers would be pumped up about that or not, but I do think it's something we need to keep in mind as we watch this Pittsburgh Steelers team go forward.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Pittsburgh Steelers win the AFC North. Their fans obviously excited, their record on Monday nights, which is when their super wildcard game will be as they host the Houston Texans, like 23 and O' or something going back all the way to... $1.3 straight. Going all the way back... Oh, 91 maybe or something like that?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Monday Night football is the Pittsburgh Steelers night. That's their super wildcard game. They got to Houston, Texas. So now all of a sudden, this Pittsburgh Steelers team, with their fan base calling for everybody to be fired and tear it down just a few weeks ago. Now they might not only win a playoff game, but once you win one, who knows what can happen next,
Starting point is 00:06:33 especially with Aaron Rogers playing the way he's playing. If Cam Hayward is going to continue to play that way on defense, or T.J. Watts is going to continue to get back into it, or the Pittsburgh Steelers going to win the Super Bowl? That's what it feels like on Super Wildcard week. Yes, it does. And that is why I am very envious of all the teams that are in their congrats of U-tone on an electrifying,
Starting point is 00:06:49 swirling Sunday night, where you predicted it perfectly on what the outcome was going to be. Amen, brother. Thank you very much. First, yeah, it started the game started with, what, a 60-yard run by Derek Henry. And I was like, all right, we're going to see this again. But everyone hunkered down. They did hunkered down. 10-3 going into half, could have been 10-10, could have been 10-6.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You tweeted me about that decision. I liked Mike Tallman the last few weeks has been a lot more aggressive. I don't know if it's because he said fuck it or whatever, but he's been a lot more aggressive, which I like, even though it didn't go in. like the decision hated the play call and then they dominated that second quarter the third quarter I think the Ravens only had 20 yards or something like that
Starting point is 00:07:29 and they had all the momentum and then the fourth quarter was just pandemonium is like this is kind of the NFL season in a nutshell especially the prime time games I mean Lamar Jackson doing classic Lamar Jackson stuff there's a Farrs who gets behind Patrick Queen
Starting point is 00:07:46 that's going to be a tough matchup for the middle linebackers have to chase that and then Kenneth Gainwell gets into the paint and now we're talking fourth quarter legendary stuff here. 17, 13, 13, 2017. Okay, it's fourth quarter only 349. Not much left can happen, right? Wrong. Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers,
Starting point is 00:08:02 wide ass, open, not going to catch him. Holy hell. Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, late in the fourth quarter, answer, respond, take the lead. They win the AFC North. What a moment for the Baltimore Ravens and Harbaugh. Ah, uh. Hey, why don't you run a little stick and go back there?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Calvin Austin gets it. rate in the hands. They take the lead late. Well, it's less than a minute. Aaron Rogers is pointing up with his broken wrists that we thought maybe go wrong. That was going to, extra point to go up three. It's Chris Boswell, literally one of the greatest of all time. 40 in a row, 40 in a row extra points. Unbelievable that that thing goes right. Let's go to the kickoff then. Nothing bad can happen. Remember now with the new kickoff, you got to throw a strike. They got a chance to go for it and the Baltimore Ravens. John Harbaugh came from the special team's world. Good special teams team. Not that the Steelers aren't, but the Baltimore
Starting point is 00:08:54 Ravens get a big time return. Oh my God, they're just one or two plays away from a game-winning field goal attempt. Well, it's down to fourth in seven, 20 seconds left. How likely is it? Very what a catch. First down. Extend the game. We are in field goal range. Do your dance. Likely, do your dance. Now, Tyler Loop, he's been good all year. snap good holding the kick is no good and is wide rate
Starting point is 00:09:27 and the Steelers are the champions of the North sorry, sorry, man sorry. Unbelievable stuff last night, so thrilling late night
Starting point is 00:09:39 and for those that fell asleep and woke up and saw the final score you could have never expected what the real chaos was two missed kicks within 35 seconds of real time and game time
Starting point is 00:09:49 and then the Steelers getting the AFC North, and now they're fans thinking maybe, maybe we do win the Super Bowl, maybe we are a team of destiny, maybe Father Maximilian Maxwell, go ahead and drains all the holy water on Acresher Field and blesses the Pittsburgh Steelers not only with the North, but maybe a run that'll be talked about as the race for seven in Pittsburgh is seemingly all the way back on. Congrats on a huge win. Thank you. I know the Yins are stuck around. That pop when that ball missed. Oh, man. I mean, that's 11 o'clock and 1130 at night. night there. That's late night in
Starting point is 00:10:22 everywhere, basically. Not a seat was empty, not an energy was lacked. The entire place exploded, all rowing in the same direction. Let's go win this thing. I don't know what John 316 says. Neither do I. It says he's going to miss it wide, right?
Starting point is 00:10:39 But I do know it felt like a little divine intervention. Maybe this is a team of destiny. Maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers are all. We are all. Brothers in Christ. So who knows? Is that what you're saying now? Or all all the time? All the time. Okay. Well, God bless you.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Ordered a Bible last night. Shout out. John 316 is the first place you're heading. Order to spend a day like a, you get an excerpt in the Bible every day, a day with Jesus. I think it's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your daily verse. Our father, Lord, and seven.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Hallow be thy name. Yeah. Thy kingdom come. The playoff will be fun. On earth. As it is in heaven. Yep. Yeah, it certainly is.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, amen. We all lived it. Congrats to you guys. What a thrilling way to end it. The internet was calling for you to potentially show up and bless us with your takes, and you certainly have. Shout out to the Steelers getting a huge win. That's good.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, that's a 40-some-yard field goal. This has been the year of kickers making kicks. Yeah. And for that to be a miss and for the Steelers to go on, let's get a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Steelers all of a sudden go from, well, the fans at least, go from get rid of everybody to now. Mm-hmm. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:11:47 That ball did miss, didn't it? Yeah, it did. maybe we can go on run. Cam Hayward played his best football we've seen. T.J. Watt was back. Interception. Aaron Rogers breaking things down. Colin plays in a huddle yet again. The touchdown of Calvin Austin, allegedly, from the way Aaron Rogers broke it down like this.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Calvin's the sweetest guy. I have such a love and appreciation for Cal and his disposition. There are multiple times in the huddle. I'm asking him on various plays, what do you want on the back side? What do you want on the backside? And he wouldn't give me a straight answer. On this particular huddle conversation, I said, what do you want, Cal? He said, I, and somebody to my right, I don't know if it was McCormick or Pat said something about like, man, just go cook him or something.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So I said, all right, Cal, you're running a hitch and go back there. And he did. He did cook him. Guy ends up on all fours. They scored touchdown. Obviously, that ends up being the winner. But Debutt, whenever you think about the Steelers team in this type of game, what can it do for them going into the playoffs? shall we be considering the Steelers a Super Bowl threat
Starting point is 00:12:49 or should we be talking about everybody that makes it as a Super Bowl threat? I mean, look, it's only 14 teams in the dance. Once you get in the dance, obviously anyone can go on the run, especially with the landscape that is right now with the teams, the quarterbacks, the coaches. Only two teams right now, I think as a head coach,
Starting point is 00:13:06 quarterback combination have went there and done it and won it all. I think that's Jaylon Hertz, Nick Siriani, and Philly, and then Sean McVe, Matt Stafford, and the Rams together as a unit. So it's wide open on both sides. absolutely you can look at this Steelers team if you are a Steelers fan especially and say this team can go on and run and then after
Starting point is 00:13:22 these two games that DK's been out you get your biggest weapon back on offense with some fresh legs in the playoffs so yeah you should feel great obviously you know what happened in the fourth quarter defensively you know Lamar Jackson we mentioned him earlier he was six for eight 172 two touchdowns in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:13:38 you had some blown coverages on the back end but you know you found the way to get it done I definitely have some questions about what was going on on the field with what's the name, Maximilian? Yeah, your father, Father, Maxwell. John 316, for God
Starting point is 00:13:54 so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son, those believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life. That's the verse, but this right here, I didn't have to ask, so I, look, I love Jesus. John 316 is kind of the story of the Bible, it appears. Oh, yeah, that's, yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:14:09 one of the part. It's very popular verse. Mount Rushmore verse. John 360, it sounds like it is the Rushmore verse for God, so love the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life okay so that's like kind of the entire religion right that john 316 guy we was at every event remember that was like kind of yeah yeah is this a new john 316 signed guy oh i don't know i look like a little better handwriting i'm only familiar with the austin 316 first
Starting point is 00:14:34 but why are you have your john 316 so austin 316 says i just kicked your ass now on that note uh john 316 and father maximilian maxwell potentially working for the pittsburgh's Steelers last night. If God was to continue to work for the Pittsburgh Steelers, what an incredible story this would be, honestly. And this includes if Tomlin was to move on. Like if Tomlin is seriously considering television, which Jay Glazer, once again, we got a very tight with Tomlin. Like very, very, very tight with coach Tomlin. They are very tight. So yesterday, when he's standing in front of a 45 foot screen. Yeah, correct. Did you see Jay in front of that screen? Oh, yeah. And did you see the boys with their view of them? That was awesome. It was incredible, kind of watching
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm standing in the back with that big screen behind him. But whenever he goes, you know, hardball, like, I don't know if he's going to get fired, but certainly would have to make a decision and conversation. He's certainly bigger. Coach Tomlin, maybe he moves into TV. That would be something. It's like, ooh, Jay Glazer saying that means something. I think Tomlin's actually thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Maybe he's sick of the entire just being above 500 as well. Like maybe he's like, listen, I try my ass off. I'm not buying it. You think he's football guy throwing through him. I trust Jay and his relationship. But every time we've heard Mike Tomlin speak, whether it's been a college job or a retired. he's like, hey, I'm the head coach with Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Like, it's not a better job in the world when it comes to sports. So I believe him, I'll take him at his word. And every time we see him, whether it's a post-game conference or talking to the media or talking to his team, we've talked to some of the players there. He still has that same fire. He still shows up. He always hits us with a new one-liner.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And I'm sure he has the guys ready to play for sure last night, man. And we had a lot of talks and rumblings about, you know, Cam Hayward definitely coming into this season, and wanting a new contract. What is this, year 15 or 16 for him now? He's the third-longest, tenured or second-longest tenured Steeler? It was him. Ben Rothesberger's number one?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, he is the, so Cam is now the number one non-quarterback. Mike Webster, I think? Yes, Mike Webster, and then Cam, and then Cam passed him this season, I believe. Okay, so it's Ben, then it's Cam, then it's Mike Webster? Okay, got it. So when you're talking about Steelers, and then his dad, Ironhead, obviously, for the Steelers, so whenever he was asking for a contract before the year, all the goodwill that Cam Hayward has done in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:16:45 His family has done in Pittsburgh. We're talking generations of goodness to Pittsburgh. This Hayward family has done this past off season whenever he was looking for a new contract and he had to kind of hold out kind. It was like an uncomfortable situation. Yinsers were like, hey, old man, why don't you just go out there and play?
Starting point is 00:17:00 You've already been legit. There was a lot of that from Yenzers. And I'll tell you what, Cam Hayward did go out there. He just put together another last year was all pro. This year seemingly all pro. Last night he decided to take the game over seemingly for different parts of it. He was a tight end on the field goal on the rush side, not on the back side. So on the rush side is if we're kicking on the right hash, probably going to bring him the rush from the left side.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Cam Hayward is right in the middle of that rush, okay, on the left side of this entire thing. Then he's also pushing his brother into the end zone for the tush push. And then on the defensive line, he's jousting every single play right in the middle of everything. It's like Cam Hayward decided last night, and I'm not just saying last night, but clearly last night because he was even doing a little talk. And you know, it's going to his giant body. it's like if he can continue to get wreck games it's like why not the Pittsburgh Steelers on that note it's time to get to our top five
Starting point is 00:17:49 top five top five headlines coming out of the end of the NFL season let's start with number five this is driven by RAM and you know anytime you drive a RAM you're going to think to yourself wow this thing's all all power oh hell this thing's so comfortable wow this thing so easy to use oh look at all the space I got and then whenever you hit that gas
Starting point is 00:18:05 pedal it's going to sound like and that's going to be that power you know I believe the hemie is coming back But I also know that the ram truck, even if it doesn't have a hemmy, he's got a stronger engine than you. Let's get to the top five. Number five, we're dancing. This is what we've been waiting for. Super Wild Car weekend is officially locked.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It is Saturday, Sunday and Monday of magical NFL football. Now, throughout the season, you think to yourself, who's going to get to one scene? Who's going to get to two C? Who's going to get home field advantage? Are we going to make it? Are we not going to make it? There's teams on a bubble. We need this to happen, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Baker Mayfield a long day. yeah he did man nice house real nice house looked like getting some work done too yeah he was sent up on that island oh yeah in the kitchen he was bummed out that's a good house
Starting point is 00:18:50 yeah you earned that big you earned that bang is a walk on I think at one point yeah it was Baker was a walk on at one point what a store yeah what a what a store yeah literally Instagram story and metaphorically Baker Mayfield story right as a whole
Starting point is 00:19:06 he's watching along seeing how people are doing everybody's waiting for something now we got it officially locked 14 teams make it on Saturday Rams take on the Panthers Rams favored by 10 and a half on draft kings Just five weeks ago The Panthers beat the Rams
Starting point is 00:19:20 People will forget about that Panthers hosting Playoff game Congrats, Congrats Carolina Congrats Carolina Had to have something happened for him Obviously in the other game that was happening In the NFC South
Starting point is 00:19:32 Between the Saints and the Falcons And congrats of them getting that done But they have 61% of the public bets strictly because they're getting 10 and a half. They just beat them five weeks ago. This Carolina Panthers team, I think, could be stingy. They could come up and get you. Or what the books are expecting,
Starting point is 00:19:50 draft king's expecting, is Matthew Stafford in the playoffs now. This is whenever all the stars come out. You know, people say the biggest games create the biggest players in the biggest moments. That's why they're called the big players. Well, there's a chance that some of these stars are either coming out of the dirt or some of these stars are already there
Starting point is 00:20:04 and they're going to go on a run. Matthew Stafford, Pooka and the boys over there in L.A., they're in the big lights all the time. Is this whenever they play their best or is this Carolina Panthers finally coming out and saying we're for real? Now, a lot of people are going to be pissed at the Panthers host in a playoff game. Their record is as compared to a lot of other people that have gotten into the playoffs. But this Carolina Panthers team can beat anybody. And on that note, this Rams team could beat anybody last year in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Will they be able to do that again? And Matthew Stafford, he's going to win the MVP, it appears, after a four touchdown day, Dibbut. Yeah, Stafford has had a phenomenal year from wire to wire. And I mentioned it earlier, you know, if you're going into this playoff run with a head coach quarterback comment, nation. You probably feel most comfortable with either the Rams or the Eagles. But yeah, on the road at the Panthers team you lost against, had Mike Jackson had a pick six in that game. There was some weather, some other things going on. Panthers is a good team. Good defenders, for sure. I think this would be a great matchup. Ten and a half is a lot of points, especially
Starting point is 00:20:56 on the road. Packers Bears, you guys split during the regular season? That is correct. How do you feel going into the playoffs? I saw Jordan Love, not playing, saw Caleb doing his thing over the weekend. Your thoughts? As a Packers fan, I actually feel very good. Like you said, Packers are limping into the playoffs worse than probably any other team in the entire playoff field. And, you know, they didn't play anybody yesterday. So you worry, hey, are they going to be rusty coming in? But Chicago did play everybody. Like, they haven't been sitting anybody at all. And they didn't look great yesterday. Yeah, exactly, against the Lions. So, and again, it's a lot of those guys for the Bears. Like, this is the first time
Starting point is 00:21:31 they've went to the playoffs. Like, the Packers team is young, but they're experienced. Like, they've been to the playoffs before. And for them, you know, like, They know each other very well. So, yeah, as a Packers fan, just like Bears fans, are probably confident. I'm very confident. I like that we get an NFC North rivalry game right there on Saturday night, a Super Wildcar weekend. And then, oh, yeah, we go to bed, wake up, have a little breakfast, talk to the fam,
Starting point is 00:21:52 maybe go talk to God. And then all of a sudden, the Buffalo Bills are down in Duval against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills, favored by one and a half. I'll tell you what, we'll talk about it here in a moment. I feel for those Bill's fans what they're going through right now. Big time. What's that? We'll talk about it in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Okay. They're going through it this weekend. They say goodbye to an old friend. That's right. It's always tough. It is. But it might not be goodbye because there is a chance, technically, that it could have another game.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But nonetheless, Bill is taking on the Jags. I think Jaggs said goodbye to an old friend as well. And that friend was one that was dragging them down. The friend that they are currently friends with is one that is prosperous. Oh, yeah. The Jacksonville Jaguars are a great football team. Yeah. The Jacksonville Jaguars getting off the bus look like a great football team.
Starting point is 00:22:34 When are you talk about having the speed, the explosive, the power, everything you could possibly need to win a playoff game. Jack's where Jaguars have it. They can talk about offense. Do they have enough to be able to keep up with Josh Allen? I don't know if anybody does. Josh Allen is Josh Allen. Trevor Lawrence playing his best ball.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Liam Cohen is seeing it better than anybody. I watch Liam Cohen like a fucking college football coach. Scream out after the 15 second play clock thing goes out to the thing. Hey, this guy going to be wide ass open. Our team could hear him. Didn't matter. First down. Hey, that guy going to be wide ass open.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Trevor, you got it. Hey. First down. ass open. Liam, seemingly a super genius, and the way they've been able to rebuild that in such a quick amount of time. Without the second overall pick, I don't know if as many people have respect for the Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:23:16 Jaguars as they should, but I'll tell you, beating the Buffalo Bills, Super Wildcar weekend, a kickoff Sunday would be a great way to say hello to the world, Dee Budd. This is a great, great match. I mean, I love all these matchups. This is a big time matchup. You talk about not having the respect, I guess, league-wide from like the casual
Starting point is 00:23:32 fans. I think if you've been paying attention to football this season, you have to respect them at this point. But yeah, Trevor Lawrence, we always start with the quarterback. His turnaround since Liam got there is unbelievable. It would be a close, close race for Coach of the year. Liam will probably get my vote because of what he did with Trevor Lawrence in that team. You know, having Anthony Campanelli on the defensive side of all, I believe they're tied with the Bears as far as takeaways, but their numbers up and down defensively are better than the Bears. So they definitely have a chance at home against Josh Allen, who everybody's
Starting point is 00:24:02 going to look at us. If you don't get it done this year, Josh, I don't want to hear it. On that note, Patrick Mahomes not in, Joey Burrow not in, Lamar Jackson not in. So is this the year Josh Allen goes on a run? New England, obviously, back in a big way in the AFC East. Conman, you've been saying the Bill's window has been closed for like five years. You were saying it as a New England Patriots fan. But it does feel like this year would be the year to be wide-ass open. But they have some things on their roster that the Jacksonville Jaguars can certainly take advantage of, Conman.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, it will be a Josh Allen or bus type of playoffs. You know, it's kind of been that way for that. the entire season. He's been carrying them. Can he carry them in the playoffs? I think we all believe that. He's done it for multiple, multiple massive games. And then for the Jags, it's kind of the opposite. Last time they hosted a playoff game against the Chargers at home and they ended up squeezing it out. We'll see if they can do it again. Yeah, if you look at these quarterbacks that are in the dance right now, I believe Josh Allen is second with all-time playoff wins behind,
Starting point is 00:24:58 obviously Aaron Rogers. So, yeah, I trust 17 in the playoffs. Trevor Lawrence has had one of the craziest playoff appearances of all time. We all watch that. I think he threw four picks in the first half. Came back in one in the second half. It's like, will he be able to do that again? I don't know against Josh Allen, but we shall see San Francisco 49ers taking on the Eagles. Interesting move by the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Coach Siriani came out and said, it's my decision is what I think. Yeah, we disagree. Obviously, there's going to be differing opinions. He said, I like my guys to be healthy and fresh going into playoffs. They could have got the number two overall seed if they really went for it and said they chose to rest. So now the Eagles lock in at three. They're hosting the San Francisco 49ers who lose to the Seattle Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Seattle Seahawks might be a... That's good football team. That is go to football team. They're not a part of Super Wild Card Week. It's still in it. Yeah. Great football team. Congrats to them and to the Denver Broncos, by the way. Number one, seeds crossed the board.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But Niners, Eagles, any quick thoughts on how this one should play out? I mean, they kind of had bad blood previously from the last time that the Eagles went to the Super Bowl. So I don't know if this is like a budding rivalry, but it's tough because we were talking about the Niners, you know, being one of the hottest teams in the NFL going into this. I think the Eagles are the one team, though, who like we've kind of just packed them in.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Like, I would not be surprised at all if the Eagles start to play their best football when the playoffs start. And I think they're still as likely as any team in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl. 80% of the bets sitting on the San Francisco 49ers plus three and a half. What's that mean, tone? I think it's just because, like, the talk all season long is how bad. the Eagles have looked even though they are what they are and the offense has not looked great
Starting point is 00:26:36 and then they don't look great yesterday against the commanders. San Francisco obviously didn't look great against the Seahawks on Saturday night but they had been on a run with Brock Purdy where the offense had looked really, really good. So I think it's just like a residency bias thing in this situation. How about Sam Donald though? Just quick.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I don't want to move past it too much because we need to give him some credit. Some of the biggest moments, he made the biggest plays and he were completions to his own team. That's right. Yep. That needs to be talked about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Congrats, Sam. Congrats, Sam. Fourteen wins back to back years. Is Jailing going to be... First guy ever? He came with Tom. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Pretty good. Pretty good. I would like to say, get the monkey off his back. He did it. To get the number one overall seed in a big moment, made it. Now, they ran the ball very well. And obviously, the way they scripted that entire thing was very beneficial to a quarterback, as it should be. Maybe others should have done that in the past.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But whenever he needed to make a couple, I mean, he made a couple. Good for Sam Darnold doing his thing and congrats to Seattle Seahawks. If Jalen Hertz can play as well as Sam Darnal can play against that Niners defense, the Eagles move on in my eyes. See, that's a big if. I've seen Jailen Hertz do it on this stage
Starting point is 00:27:45 multiple times, multiple years, a couple Super Bowls. I've seen Seriani and I've damn sure seen that defense who have been playing well, kind of take it to another level. So I feel very confident about my Philadelphia Eagles in this matchup. Brock Purdy coming off being held to three points after that hot.
Starting point is 00:28:00 run before running into that Seahawks defense kind of concerns me as well and coach BA sat here a few weeks ago and talked about Brock Purdy in these outdoor kind of late season environments I don't know what the weather will be in Philly on Sunday but for all those things I feel very confident with Eagles okay and then Chargers Patriots wrap up Saturday night football I cannot wait for this one now the Chargers basically chose to be the number seven seed rested their players could have stole a win and not been this seed take on the Patriots now New England can obviously utilize that. I will say this. Following this
Starting point is 00:28:34 Patriots team for the last three years has been a blast with this guy. Okay, alongside Connor Campbell. Boston Connor is a Patriot's diehard. I think there's no faking that. I think that is his life. I think we have experienced it. There was times where we thought maybe his team was going to
Starting point is 00:28:50 stink for the rest of his life and that he was just going to have to try to relive the memories of when he was just a boy in the New England Patriots were good. This man was going to parades over the span of his first 20 years of his existence. then all of a sudden maybe it never happens again. He's going to have to tell his little baby boy and baby girl and maybe even grandbaby and grandbabies, grandbabies.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Say there was a time when the Patriots ran this whole damn thing. There was a thought that that was going to take place for all Patriots fans everywhere. Connor Campbell more specifically. But instead, somehow, the Tennessee Titans, good luck to whoever gets hired there. I'm sure it's going to go great. Yikes. They kick him out the door. He sits in Cleveland for a year.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And somehow, lo and behold, the team that he played for, the team that he loves, the team that he's in the Hall of Fame for, the team that he's in the ring of honor with, he has an opening all of a sudden because they fire a coach after one year, one and done, just like Pete Carroll had. He comes in there, flips the entire thing, and oh, yeah, they got an MVP candidate in his second year at the age of 23. And the offensive coordinator, yeah, he's been a head coach before it sucks. He doesn't like it. He just wants to be a coordinator. This Patriot seems back in a big way, and Saturday night's the chance to really say it for real. Has Drake been able to do it in the playoffs? Has Drake been able to do it in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:30:02 That's the question we find out Saturday night against this. What's that? Sunday night. Sunday, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. Several time. Sorry, let me get you out of Sunday night. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:30:11 They're feeling Saturday. Yeah, well, every day feels like Saturday right now. Sunday night, Chargers and Patriots, but the Chargers team, hit or miss feels like. We've seen them play very good. We've seen them not play so good. Who shows up against the New England Patriots? I guess we find out. You have to feel great to be in the dance with a real shot at the
Starting point is 00:30:28 thing. Yeah, I feel incredible. I mean, you go from 3 and 14, sorry, 4 and 13 to, you know, 14 and 3 over the span of one year. That's going to get your juices flowing. You're going to be bricked up no matter what. What really gets me, you know, going is the fact that last time the Patriots won the Super Bowl was 2018.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Who did they play in that first round? The L.A. Chargers. And I believe they were L.A. I don't even think there's San Diego yet. Phil Rivers flew all the way over. Another kicker there, too, who led the Patriots on that little bit of a run? Sonny Michelle, rookie running back. So we kind of have rookie running back right now trevion henderson there's a lot of parallels between the two in reality
Starting point is 00:31:02 i think what you mentioned is going to be a huge message hey the chargers could have easily been the six seed they chose to bench everybody not play anybody have a little mini by week they chose to kind of move down to that seven seed in order to come and play you guys now maybe they didn't want to go to jacksonville again because they did blow a 28-0 lead in jacksonville so they said hey we can't go there anymore not doing that let's go to foxborough play brables boys i feel fantastic i think the P-Fotter will be awesome this week as well up until, you know, basically until the Super Bowl, February 5th when it gets
Starting point is 00:31:34 announced. But that will be a motivator. Everyone getting healthy for the Patriots this past week. I mean, we just beat the absolute dog shit out of the Miami Dolphins with Milton Williams coming back. Highest pay player on the team. Well, Campbell coming back, leading the way on multiple rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Efton Chisholm, the third superstar kind of budding for the New England Patriots and Stefan Diggs getting a thousand yard receiving again. after kind of going through a little bit of an ACL and some other things. But it does feel as though the Patriots are rolling in all directions. It is a great feeling to be back on the biggest stage in hosting playoff games. I mean, we're talking about a chance where they're hosting two,
Starting point is 00:32:11 maybe three playoff games on the way to a Super Bowl. I mean, it's remarkable that you can flip a team in a culture like this. And you mentioned it, you know, on a day like today, Black Monday, where coaches and GMs are getting fired. Just keep in mind, look to the New England Patriots, look to the Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears that were absolute shite
Starting point is 00:32:31 and in one year flipped it I mean we're talking about teams that can legitimately go and win the Super Bowl because of a few changes and Vrable I think
Starting point is 00:32:38 we all thought was going to be a great coach or knew he's going to be a great coach Ben Johnson all knew he was going to be a great coach right it felt like everybody thought he was going to be a great coach Liam Cohen came out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:32:47 that was a late hire nobody really knew remember he wasn't even going to be able to put together a staff allegedly they were trying to slander his name pretty good and they did the Duval it was hard not to talk a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:32:57 about that, but then you see what they're able to do. It's like, if you find a good leader, there is a chance you can flip an entire culture. These are all NFL players. If you're able to rally an entire building in the same direction, you're able to get into the dance. And obviously, Tomico Ryan's and Casario have been able to do that down in Houston multiple times.
Starting point is 00:33:13 C.J. Stroud might be playing his best ball and then they play against Pittsburgh Steelers at home on Monday night. Steelers obviously impossible to beat on Monday night football. Is that change whenever it's the playoffs? And does that matter? How does that matter? How does that matter. How is that a real thing? I genuinely
Starting point is 00:33:29 want to know that. I mean, I don't think it matters. Me neither. You know, every game is its own game. We obviously been in those buildings. We have those stats. Whether it's, hey, we start slow as a team or prime time or whatever it is, but the game is going to be the game. Once again, another great matchup.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I can't wait to see this Houston, Texans defense on prime time. That defense in the game and you mentioned, you mentioned CJ Strave, playing some good ball as well. So, yeah, it's going to be another banger. I mean, this whole slate, man. But you couldn't really, you could react for a better slate. That's why Super Wild Card Weekend has become must-watch,
Starting point is 00:34:04 maybe best weekend of ball that there is all year. Obviously, Super Bowl weekend's sweet. There's only one game. Championship weekend, sweet because there's so much on the line. Divisional rounds cool. The fact that we get two, three, and one here of all meaningful football with great football teams. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's so beautiful. College football playoffs right before. So, we got to enjoy these boys. It's a dream. We got to enjoy this time. Let's close our eyes. I don't even feel like I deserve it. Everyone's why you going to do that?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Hell yeah. Just kind of take it in. We're here. Let's go the number four headline coming out of the NFL season. Goodbye to the Ralph. I guess since 2021 it's been called Highmark Stadium, Blue Cross Blue Shield. The new stadium will be Highmark Stadium right across the way.
Starting point is 00:34:53 This has been the home of the Buffalo Bill since 1973. Wow. All the documentaries and stories that you hear about the Buffalo Beals come from the Ralph. I was very lucky that I got a chance during my career to play a Lambot. I got a chance to play a candlestick. I got a chance to play at that one place out there in Oakland. What's the name of that? Coliseum.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Coliseum. I got a chance to play in a lot. Yeah, the Black Hole. I got a chance to play in a lot of places that are football movies. Playing in the Ralph, my rookie year, in the middle of a Blizzard, felt like I was in the middle of a football movie. Place is obviously very special. I had a lot on the line that game, although all my teammates did not.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It was very fascinating. We were attempting to lose that game. It was the end of our undefeated season that we had. For me, I had to have a couple inside 20. Had to average ever something to get a million dollar escalator, which was obviously the most amount of money that I could ever fathom in my life. So it was a joy to be there. Obviously, thankful for everything that Buffalo Bills people have done for football as a whole.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You're talking about a passionate, loyal. I don't even know if there's any other place that has gone through what fans have gone through. to remain the fans. Let alone the four falls. Yeah. Okay. Heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak. Kind of happening with the Ravens right now,
Starting point is 00:36:06 just not at the Super Bowl level. That was all at the Super Bowl level. For the Ravens end of season, the last four years, you're just heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak. But whenever you talk about the bills, the weather, digging out your own seats, having to get to this place in the back of tractors, and then what they do every single time they show up
Starting point is 00:36:23 is be the best fan base that you could have. It's like, congrats to Buffalo. Congrats to the Ralph on a hell of a run. And the scenes coming out after the game here. This is from Jason McCordy. He was calling the game where nobody left and they just relive some of the greatest moments of the Ralph. Now, some people, I assume,
Starting point is 00:36:38 are very tuned up and blacked out at this moment. We'll not remember this other than some of the pictures. Hopefully people have of them out there. But it's like, this is a special fan base, special place. And obviously their next stadium is going to be awesome with big ass bison out front. But I like whenever people get emotional about something, and they certainly did about the Ralph.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I think that's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it just shows you how much football means to the people of Buffalo and just fans in general. And that's Al Capaccio tweet. I mean, there's a security lady who's been there for 32 years. That is so long just to be at one place in general, let alone work at one place like that. That's remarkable, but also to keep in mind from the people of Buffalo, these new stadiums are remarkable. They are so nice.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You're going to love it. You're going to love it, okay? After you get over this, after you get over. this heartbreak and hopefully the people who are there got to yank something out of that stadium to keep forever in their basis. Might have another game in there. Yeah, might have another game there. Can still host the Chargers in the AFC Championship,
Starting point is 00:37:35 but you're going to love this new Highmark Stadium. It's going to be gorgeous. Yeah, it was a perfect night, cold as hell. Obviously, a great way to send off. I wish there was a little bit more snow in there, you know, so you can feel it. And once I read Sal Capaccio's tweet, I completely forgot like, oh, it is going to be an emotional day, especially for Sal Capaccio.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, especially for Sao. Especially for Sal. There's a lot of Salis up there in Buffalo. That's They said, brother. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of good buffalo Indians up there. And it reminded me of whenever I was a child, and they tore down the igloo. They did this downtown Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:38:04 They tore down the igloo. And I'll tell you what, I was bummed out alongside everybody else. This is the home of Pittsburgh Penguins. And they just went ahead and just took that thing down. They showed it across the entire city whenever they started. Now, you'll see there's four different winners that came and went while these things were being tearing down.
Starting point is 00:38:21 That's not how I remember it in my head at all. I think I had a little Mandela effect. In my head, they imploded that thing. And we all got out of school for it. That's how my head remembered it. And then we got to send it in there. Turns out they took their sweet-ass time. Somebody had a good contract on this thing.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And they go, anyone ahead and say, we're going to eat another 12 months or so. We're going to eat another 12 months or so. Whatever the case. The city of Pittsburgh was very emotional whenever this went down. Three rivers. Same exact thing. Very emotional.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It's like the Ralph. I can understand it. I appreciate it. And we had one this weekend tone. Yeah, we did. And it's like, I remember waking up and watching the implosion of Three Rivers Stadium. It was like everyone was down there. It was like it was something.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And I remember when we were growing up, a kid in your grade actually had a stadium seats from Three Rivers in his basement. It was a shot out Josh Rone. Thank you. Yep, you knew. Like that was like something that happened. I'm sure that was something to happen in Buffalo yesterday. It's just like so many memories in that place. And like when you think about something and you think about these stadiums, like it's not just like the football, but like you go there with family.
Starting point is 00:39:23 like it's a family tradition and the tailgates and everything like that it's an emotional day for sure yeah i'll tell you what the reason why i knew is josh rollinx is he had a couple ping pong tournaments in basement boom get a game winner pretty exhausted let me go sit down at three rooms yeah yeah we did right next to yeah oh oh yeah the amount of shit being talked to at that entire thing josh roan a great dude great family and also his dad love collecting that touchdowns too yeah shouts too it wasn't just i mean he had i think you'd probably find a piece of maryland mues hair down here if you really had too uh good people good times Nothing stops for him.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Boom. Best truck. Dand the line. Let's go to the number three headline. Miles Garrett moralized. Congrats, Miles. Hey, go to get this a couple weeks earlier. Obviously, he was on a wrecking path to kind of make this happen.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He's been all over the field, and we know of Miles Garrett's greatness strictly because we've gotten a chance to witness it. It is a shame, though, much like Joe Thomas, the teams he has played on for the Cleveland Browns have been asked whenever you're a goat. Now, they paid him $40 million a year, reset the entire market because they understand his greatness. He at one point was worried that he didn't win enough games, and he wanted to win more games. He's not worried about getting into the Hall of Fame. Now, he signs on to be a Cleveland Brown Pillar.
Starting point is 00:40:35 In his first year, post-brand new contract in which he resets the entire market. He breaks the sack record. Now, it did take 17 games as opposed to 16 games. Heard Michael Strahan talk about that. I think that's a very real argument that's going to happen as football continues to go. Adam Venetary, all-time leader in points. 16-game season. I think at some point
Starting point is 00:40:54 somebody's going to come with these extra games and potentially catch them. Nonetheless, very impressive, very pumped. And Shrayan might come up to Joe Burroughs someday. No.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He'd say, you screwed me. Oh, yeah. You screwed me! I think he was going to get him regardless. I think Joe knew that. But people are saying Joey laid down for him.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I mean, yeah, I understand it. Joe, we've all seen what Joe has been through health-wise and getting to the last game of the season. He probably saw 95 getting off the ball from his Periff and knew he probably had no chance to getting out of the group. But this was awesome. This was
Starting point is 00:41:25 cool. His dad had been in the crowd, you know, with this camera and he looked like he got emotional. I don't even know if he had a chance to get a pitcher because he was so jacked up once he finally got the sack. And in 17 games, that'll be a conversation, but then there'll be other people that say this amount of snaps and all the stats that we have now around it. But we all
Starting point is 00:41:41 watch Mobb's gear, and he has been one of if not the most dominant defender in his generation, you know, from wider, from coming into the league as the number one overall pick, he's lived up to all the stuff, man. He's just an unbelievable player. Great person for that city. Hopefully they can build a winner around him, but he's a great
Starting point is 00:41:57 pillar to build around. Hopefully they're able to honestly, there's a lot of change happening in Cleveland as we speak. Who knows what the next iteration looks like? Mark Gassano had a hell of run. Okay? In the New York Sack Exchange. Doug Martin did his thing. Obviously, Strahan comes in and T.J. Watt
Starting point is 00:42:13 And then Miles Garrett. Congratulations to all these dudes for being incredible on a football field. Gasano, you're ahead of your time. Yeah. He was. Back to pass, here she. One of the goals. That of your time, dude. It's got the number two headline coming out of the NFL season, shall we?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah, the only thing with that Miles Garrett thing. Okay. Just for Zach Taylor to go up there after the game and say, we're fighting for our freaking lives. Dude, no one's watching this game. No one's watching this game unless you're watching it. What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:42:42 Well, the whole entire thing, you know, he was pretty upset. And Jamar Chase mentioned as well, I don't think he was upset as Zach Taylor was, you know, they kind of stopped the game for Miles Garrett to celebrate and enjoy this historic moment that may never happen again. Now, granted, like you said, 17 games, eventually maybe the season goes to 18. Still got it, not his fault. I'm not saying.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, not his fault. It's certainly a conversation. Certainly a conversation. And once it goes to 18 games and someone breaks this record, guess what's going to happen? They're going to stop the game because it's history in the NFL. The only thing anybody will ever remember from the Bengal season probably or the Brown season in the 2025 NFL season was, Miles Garrett got the sack record in Cincinnati against the Bengals. So for some of the people to be upset about, you know, them stopping the game or everything,
Starting point is 00:43:30 like that's ridiculous. May we remind you, when Drew Brees broke the NFL passing record, this is what happened, okay? Monday night football. Yeah. Only game on. And also, this record got broken maybe a year later. Look what they did.
Starting point is 00:43:47 The refs, I think, took off their hats. took knees to shake his hand. I think the coach of the other team walked over and said, hey, Drew, congratulations. Now, whether that was Ron Rivera or not, who knows. But still, look at what happened for Drew Brees. They did a, he basically won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:44:03 They brought a podium out. They brought a podium out. They gave a speech. He did the one for me, two for you. He did that whole thing. Three for a four for them. Wait, this was doing a break? No, no, show.
Starting point is 00:44:15 No break. This is on the game. Oh, I missed it. Yeah, it's like whenever legendary NFL records get broken, you know, passing, sacking. Right. I would assume. Rushing, I bet Emmett Smith had some.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Oh, yeah. Yeah, these big ones. There's going to be a moment of, holy hell. This league's been around a long time. There's been a lot of great players, and obviously this impact. Family! Family's about to walk on the field. It's second quarter.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So I think a lot of people probably judge this moment as well. And then the NFL came out and was like, hey, this is a huge deal, man. Like, we would like our players to know that if you become... What? I don't remember that. Yes, this whole happened. All of it. This happened, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:53 This did happen. Look at the jumbo truck. All time pass yard leader. Congratulations. I mean, they stopped. This is second quarter. I just should. Game after that 1 a.m.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yes, they should. The game happened. This game has been going on a long time. And for you to break one of this. Hell yeah. Take that thing right in the hall. What in the white club? I don't want to put my fingerprints on it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Shout out to David Baker. All right. Anyways. He played left tackle, actually, right after this. Yeah, well, they needed a guy. Obviously, he had somebody get hurt. they end up winning the game. David Baker obviously play a lot for a good place to be.
Starting point is 00:45:22 But nonetheless, whenever these big records happen, there has been precedent already set that we are going to celebrate it in the moment. And, yeah, I didn't like Miles catching a little hell there for getting Rudy. I was going to say, if you would have been like, you know, listen, stopping the game is one thing for them to put them on their shoulders and take them off the goddamn field like Rudy, that's another thing. All right, let's go to the second headline coming out of the NFL season. A Most Valuable Momentum Shift.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Matthew Stafford is now the MVP favorite. appreciate that we put Matt on the graphic, you know, even though he is a Matthew Stafford, mad respect for what Matthew has been able to accomplish this late into his career. He is now 180. We had a conversation last week with Dan Orlovsky. Dan Rolowski said, Matthew Statt, what are we? Yeah, right. Harder players, hard competition.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Everything he's done it. This is Matthew Stafford. We said, you're just kind of throwing Drake May out because he played against bad teams, is what you're saying? Yeah, strength of schedule has to matter. Then he throws four touchdowns against Arizona Cardinals. And a conversation is, hey, this is good football. And so Carter was a good football. So you can obviously
Starting point is 00:46:22 cat, dog, chase, tail situation in this entirety. What we know is if you're in the MVP conversation, you've had a fantastic year. And Matthew Stafford, I think, did put a stamp on it this past weekend thrown for four touchdowns. Now, when you look at the stats,
Starting point is 00:46:37 it's absurd what Matthew Stafford's been able to do. When you look at what the Rams are able to do offensively, it's crazy. In tone, you're a voter. One of these votes have to go in and you've been saying this entire time, I want to look at the entire 17-game picture. Yeah, they have to be.
Starting point is 00:46:49 in by 3 p.m. today. Obviously, the award will be announced Thursday before the Super Bowl. Going into week 17, Stafford was the favorite, and then he had that bad game against the Falcons, and Drake May had a all-time game against the Jets. And then this weekend, obviously, it flips
Starting point is 00:47:05 again. So it's like these last two weeks have been monumental towards this race. I just didn't like the, it has to be this guy, or it has to be this guy. Both these guys have had unbelievable years. 46 to 8 is absurd for Stafford. And then Drake May 35 and 8 with his rushing yards and with his rushing touchdowns too.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Like they're both absurd. Drake May leads the league in completion percentage and then average distance per target. Like to have those two things together is. Yeah, exactly. Drake May is the best on third down too. Like both of these quarterbacks are very, very deserving. Just like last year, both the quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen were very, very deserving. I don't like people putting down either to make the case for their guy, but that's just how it is these days.
Starting point is 00:47:46 But like either, I don't want to be surprised of either of them one. Well, and that's the other thing. Like, as a Patriots fan, I feel like if you just do take a step back and realize, like, Matthew Stafford has never really been in the MVP conversation. He's never really been, I don't know if he's ever been all pro. Like, Drake Mays 23, hopefully he will be back here no matter what the schedule is. But Matt Stafford does deserve it in his own right, especially when what's the most important thing, scoring touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And, you know, people have been throwing shade on the 15, one-yard touchdown passes. But that doesn't matter, you know, like. Just because their one yard doesn't mean, you know, that's not an unbelievable ball. How many times have we shown Devante Adams, you know, him throwing it in the perfect spot where only Devonzee can get it? Like, that should help his case in many sense. I mean, in this case, Pookinacua, a great play. But still, it is just, it feels as though Stafford should win it this year.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Pookinacua is up for an award or two as well. I mean, you could have a couple awards heading to Los Angeles Rams this season. And the crazy part about it all is this has been a rebuild after rebuild after rebuild out there for L.A. and seemingly still have their pillars, still have their studs, and obviously still have a chance to win to Lombardy. Yeah, Mr. Stafford has just been unbelievable. And he, what is he, 37, 36 this year, however, and him been with Sean McVeigh, obviously they're on the same page.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And just coming into each and every game damn near, it seems like he was always in full control. And throwing those touchdown passes, leading in yards, all the different things, like you said, Tom, either one of these guys could win it. But Matt Stafford, with the questions that we had about his health coming into this year, the rebuild kind of around him, bring it in Devante and like people can talk about those you know one-yard touchdowns
Starting point is 00:49:20 that's hard to get on the same page with a receiver like that especially down there everyone would do it you know the same way people look at touch push like everyone could do it everyone would do it if everyone could do it so that's a tough a tough spot to be in but matt staff has been phenomenal wider wide or wire so it's drake may but this i mean i'm not surprised that matt staffer is the i guess slight favor at this point as 2009 draft classies yep i mean there's we'd like to say hell yeah hell yeah oh yeah that's a day good dog That's a damn good dog there, Matthew Stafford. Now valuable, and we talked about it last week, and then JJ Watt, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:54 went again yesterday. Drake made definitely more valuable to his team than Matt Stafford. Why would you say that? I mean, you just mentioned one of the guys. Devonte Adams got brought in. You mentioned Pooka and Nakua, maybe winning an offensive player of the year. Two running backs right now, balling over there. They got pretty good.
Starting point is 00:50:09 That was the argument. Henry, Trayvion, go ahead. Trayvion, Josh McDaniel. They got good coaches for players. Hunter? Hunter? Huntser is very good. Pooka Nekua or Stefan Dix?
Starting point is 00:50:19 What weapons? Yeah. Would you take Pooka or Stefan Dix? I would take Puka. Would you take Devante or Stefan Dix? I don't know. There you go. What's Pook up for?
Starting point is 00:50:31 What is Pook up for? Offense player, yeah. And I think he's got pretty good odds. Yeah, he's second behind JSN who's had a historic season. Okay, so in Christian McCaffrey, also in this entire conversation. Bejohn. I mean, there's a lot of great players, a lot of great players. And Matthew Stafford hops into that trailer during training camp.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Mm-hmm. Comes out spinning it. $140,000 bed. Is that what they said? Yeah. Holy. It doesn't look comfortable either. What's that?
Starting point is 00:50:59 The bed doesn't look comfortable either. What, so? We had eyes on the bed? Yeah, we got eyes on the bed. It looks hard. There's no cushion. There's no padding. I don't think we've seen the actual bed.
Starting point is 00:51:12 We've seen a 3D graphic, I think, of what the bed is like. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they've shown us what the bed is like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they've shown us. what the actual bed looks like. I think we have in theory this is what the bed
Starting point is 00:51:20 and it's Matthew Stafford laying down and there's just red light therapy everywhere and then he's laying on a thing and then they say it vibrates you to the proper medium or whatever the hell you're supposed to get then there's a red light thing that you're supposed to get and there's a temperature thing a sound thing it's basically just choose your entire body
Starting point is 00:51:38 this is. 140,000 don't you worry about it. I have thought about purchasing a few of these things. It looks cool. It looks very cool and if you have a back, then he go in that thing, and then he become an MVP at 37, I'm thinking about maybe we need to lay our ass and sold. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. They've had a hell
Starting point is 00:51:55 of a run, that immortal group. And then let's get to the number one headline for this particular overreaction Monday. It's Black Monday. Folks are getting fired. And folks are staying. That's right. Sure are. There's always a yin to a yin. There's always a zig
Starting point is 00:52:11 to a zag. You know, some teams see what happened in New England, in Chicago and Jacksonville and think to themselves, well, just make a little bit of a shift here, we can go on a potential Lombardi run. And then other places say, we like our guys. Hell yeah. The Bengals have said, we lack our guys. Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin sticking around for the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, it was reported late into the season that these two have contracts for at least another year, and that made everybody think to themselves, Bengals aren't paying multiple contracts. So they are going to stay.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Indianapolis Colts, Shane Steichen, head coach, and Chris Ballard, general manager, will be sticking around. That announcement came 35 seconds after losing our eighth straight football game here in Indianapolis, which means the decision was already made before the game even started. The outcome against Houston Texans, who obviously have an incredible football team, really didn't matter to what was going to happen in the future. Now, I will say this about the Indianapolis Colts. I am a Chris Ballard fan. I love the human, Chris Ballard. He has been nothing but good to us, to the city of Indianapolis. I think the organization at the time, whenever he got in there, kind of piecing everything back together
Starting point is 00:53:15 after all the hell that had been taking place and mistrust and everything that happens, okay? Now, this is going to be 10 years. No AFC South championships. And nobody really talks about the AFC South being, you know, like a juggernaut. Okay, no offense to Houston over the years, they're back, which even more so. No offense to Jacksonville over the years, they're back, even more so part of the conversation. And Tennessee Titans stink.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Stake. They had Fable there for a while, so they were good for a bit. But it's like the lack of success for the Indianapolis Colts is alarming, I think, for them to decide just that quickly after the last game of the season to stick with the same people that have done this entire time. Now, every single season, there is valid excuses. Valid. I mean, Danny Dimes had us as the number one team in the league.
Starting point is 00:54:05 We're eight and one. And then all of a sudden, he comes back after Baye. He has a fractured fibula that can't move. It's like, well, moving was a massive piece of his offense. So once we lose him, though, everybody else just kind of says, yeah, we're done. We stink. Offensive line can't really move people anymore. Jonathan Taylor not really able to do what he was able to do because when Danny Dimes was playing, I think there was more eyes on him than it was on Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:54:22 The defense couldn't get a stop. People got hurt. We traded away two ones for Sauce Gardner, haven't really seen them on the field. So everything kind of just collapses in on itself this year. And it's like, were they waiting for a reason to make an excuse? Or is there actual excuses every year? I think there is actual excuses every single year. But boy, are we just going to continue to do that?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Feels like the coach are saying yes. speaks at 2.30 officially to break it on down. Okay, so give us some more definite answers. But I was surprised, just like you were to hear, that they were coming back right after the season was in it. I thought there would be some sit-down, some conversations, maybe some interviews.
Starting point is 00:54:56 But yeah, I thought Chris Ballard did some great things this off-season. I was very excited. Didn't see what Danny Dimes did this year. Obviously, you got banged up. You can't control injuries. But every team deals with injuries. To have that seven-game slide at the end of the season, that was very, very tough. And then when you do
Starting point is 00:55:12 take that chance to go and trade two for Sauce Gardner. If he comes in balls and he's the reason you go and win the Super Bowl, it looks great. But if it goes, how it goes, it looks terrible, man. So bringing them back, bringing them both back. It's definitely a decision. I know a lot of people get excited when you just clean house and start over, but we've seen teams kind of just be in that mode every two or three years. So the big three kind of gets taking their time to see how it all plays out. I guess I get that side of it too. Here we are. We got another year. See if we You figure it out. If you were to run back what I said on this day last year, just go ahead and do it again.
Starting point is 00:55:44 We found a couple of the same, the good pieces to bring a culture. Like I think Danny Dimes up the culture. Like I think whenever he got in here, I think he changed some things. I think Cam Bynum whenever he came in, his energy changed him things. I think there was some accountability. I think there was some professionalism that got brought into the building because we had heard what had been happening in the past. It's almost like guys gave up and they stopped being pros. Late the meetings, missing this, missing that.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's like, that's not what winning teams do. Like, that's not how it goes. This year, everything was great. Everything was great. Then an injury of the quarterback slows us down. But then just losing every single game. It's like, well, is there any fight? Like, how does that happen?
Starting point is 00:56:19 We'll see you next. That's when everything else is supposed to step up. The defense, the run game, offensive line. Like, you got to figure out a way. We don't have any ones this year or next year as we rebuild. That's great. I think we got some pieces that could potentially move. Could move some good pieces.
Starting point is 00:56:34 You just got to think that, like, with, you look at Ballard's resume, 31 other teams probably would have fired him after like his fifth or six year and he's going into year 10, which is crazy to think. Well, there's six coaches who have been fired already. We assume there will be more. Good luck to all these men as they try to find new homes and their families.
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Starting point is 00:57:40 Now we head into the playoffs where it matters more. College football playoffs. Oh, we got a couple semifinals games happening on Thursday and Friday of this week. Then we got Super Wild Car weekend Friday.
Starting point is 00:57:51 They are Saturday and Sunday and Monday. We got big time football right around the corner. Five straight days of it. We cannot wait to be on the sidelines. Both in Arizona on Thursday for the Fiesta Bowl.
Starting point is 00:58:03 in Atlanta on Friday for the Peach Bowl. Miami takes on Ole Miss. Hey, that Ole Miss story, getting more and more awesome. Don't look now. As the day rolls on. And then that Miami team, Ole Miss knows this.
Starting point is 00:58:16 They're ready for it. They're one of the final four teams in college ball. Miami's coming to fight you. I mean, Miami is coming to fight you. You better hope that you have the one ref crew that we were not at that was actually calling penalties because all these other ref crews that we've seen for the college football playoffs
Starting point is 00:58:30 are very good at what they do. very committed to letting the boys play. I mean, that has just been kind of the MO of these college football playoffs. Refes in Miami's a physical ball club. I know Ole Miss is ready for it, but we can't wait for that over there at the Fiesta Bowl. And then we'll travel over to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl as two Big Ten teams will try to punch their ticket to a national championship. Now, you listen to some Big Ten people. They say, don't we think Indiana, Oregon should be on two sides?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Big Ten has been the most dominant conference. We should at least have an all Big Ten national championship. if we want it, but the conversation instead is at least one big 10 team. We'll be in the national championship. We'll be the Oregon Ducks. Scoot Ducks? Or will it be the Indiana. Hoo, who, who, who, who, cheers.
Starting point is 00:59:17 We'll be talking to Fernando Mendoza in about 30 minutes or so. Can I wait to catch up with him? What a storybook year he has had. Obviously, Heisman winner, number one overall pick in the upcoming draft. Can he continue to lead the undefeated Indiana team to a national championship? We shall see as he takes on a great Oregon team. Ducks team from all the way in Eugene. Toxic tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.
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Starting point is 00:59:47 What do you do if you're not a football fan right now? That's so stupid. Learn a lot about Venezuela, I think. I know you're all kind of doing that as we speak. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen from an Attica in Ohio, a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rotter Cup winner. Ladies and J. Haw.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Hey, AJ, we're all leering a lot about Venezuela. You know, it's kind of getting into all of our algorithms, even though we are sports people. But football is about to infiltrate the entire world. The biggest games are about to be five days back to back to back to back. I can't wait for it. How do you feel as we head into the most important time for football? I mean, obviously, I'm pumped with the college football playoffs
Starting point is 01:00:25 that we will be at both of them. That's going to be amazing. But yeah, the NFL playoffs, like how they shaped up. That game last night was awesome. Whether you're a fan of the Ravens or the Steve. dealers or neither team like at least it was an awesome football game that came down to the wire yeah not just down to the wire down to the wire down to the wire down to the wire you know and it was like uh Aaron makes huge play Lamar makes huge play boswell never misses misses
Starting point is 01:00:47 Tyler loop this kid seemingly very good I think they've only attempted like four kicks past 50 so I wonder about the leg strength you know I do wonder about the decision making processing at all and how he goes forward this can be a big mental hurdle for this guy for the rest of his career if he's able to bounce back because I have I assume the people of Baltimore have not been very kind to Tyler. Oh, man. I assume it's not been the most. Hey, it's part of it. Loop knows that, though.
Starting point is 01:01:11 He knows that. That's a part of it. There's only 32 kickers. You need to make your kicks whenever you have your opportunity. Even though I have missed and everybody else that has ever kicked the ball has missed, including Adam Venetary. This is going to be a part of his development. Will it be with Baltimore Ravens going forward? Will he be able to handle it? Will he be able to bounce back?
Starting point is 01:01:26 We shall see. And what do the Ravens look like going forward? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, front of the program, a guy who cut a great promo. on Saturday about what he was going to talk about on Sunday NFL Countdown, Adam Schaefter. Yay!
Starting point is 01:01:40 Working the phones. Shephti's in the middle of it, obviously. I got stuff going on. I did want to show off the watch that I have and the ring. I don't know if he knows that he is currently live on our show. I don't hear anything. He doesn't hear anything.
Starting point is 01:01:55 We hear you, Shephti. We hear you, brother. Shepter, you sounded great. You're a keyboard, actually. I didn't know he's old-score typewriter. Is that what that was? as cool as he's ever looked. You think because he's... So cash. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Because he's working on the other side like this is what it look like. I want to showcase the watch to the world. Ladies and gentlemen, cool, Adam Schaefter. Yeah. I don't know what the audio issues is there. Can you hear us right now or no? I hear you. Yeah, you look so cool.
Starting point is 01:02:24 You need to know that you look so cool there with your watch casual looking off as you're typing on a typewriter, it sounded like, and getting everything done. Let's dive right into it. we know that you have a political show to get on in 15 minutes. Sheffey, okay, so Jonathan Gannon. You know that I'm running for mayor of New York City? You should. We would love that. Without. Yeah, I don't know if you're going to be able to get it from my understanding.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I don't even want to get into that. I don't even want to get into mayor of New York City talk. But nonetheless, we know that there's been six coaches fired already. Most recently, Jonathan Gannon. Obviously, Pete Carroll announces a one and done. Stifansky felt like you and every other insider knew going into yesterday that Stafansky was probably done. Rahim Morris comes out of nowhere, and then obviously the two during the season. Which one of these firings, the last four there, was most surprising,
Starting point is 01:03:08 and why did you guys all know that Stefansky was probably on his way out? You know, listen, there are a lot of calls. I happen to think when I did the report on ESPN yesterday, you know, a couple of things I put Shane Steichen, Rahim Morris, Jonathan Gannon, and Todd Bowles in the category. I lean safe on all of them because you're talking to people with them. the teams and they give you the sense that they think they want to keep them, they want to do that. And then ultimately, push comes to shove in the end. And you say, oh, well, Jonathan Gannes lost nine straight games and their defense has given up an average of over 30. And, like,
Starting point is 01:03:46 it seems obvious. Now, Rahim Morris, that was a little surprising. I expected the general manager to be let go, but I think what happened there is the Falcons just wanted to overhaul their entire organization. And Rahim got swept up in that, and he's out. Stafansky, I don't know, it's just calls, instincts, reading between the lines. I don't know. I can't speak for everybody, but I had him out yesterday because I believed he was going to be out. And I believe he's going to be one of the top candidates in this coaching cycle, too. And yesterday we talked about John Harbaugh.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Like everyone talking in about Mike Tomlin, I felt like John Harbaugh was the real hot-button issue over Mike Tomlin. and those conversations obviously will occur. Todd Bowles is another one, like I said, maybe I mentioned him before. I was told they don't want to make a change, but I was told that with Jonathan Gannon, too, and a change came, and Rahim Morris, and he's out. So these things are fluid,
Starting point is 01:04:45 but you have an idea of who's on the hot seat, and then who ultimately gets the chair pulled out from underneath them. I appreciate you having a thermometer on everybody's ass around the NFL, especially this time of year, And we're talking about coaches and assistant coaches and family. So it does suck, but it is the business. And they sign up for it. They understand what it is.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Jonathan Gannon obviously announced he's out. Shane Steichen, you mentioned you were leaning towards safe yesterday. Carly Ersay is going to have a press conference at 2.30. What do you think she's going to be saying about keeping Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard? Because obviously those are a couple massive moves for new ownership here. Well, Pat, you texted me yesterday, right? You said, if I could take people behind the colonel, I'd be like, what do you think in any? And I said, I think they're both safe.
Starting point is 01:05:25 figure like, how do you know that? It's calls, it's checking in with people, and sure enough, they didn't waste any time right after the game. They announced that both men are back. And I just believe it's new ownership. Carly Ursa-Gordon is getting used to the job. I believe that she believes in both those men, and she's willing to stand behind them right now as she continues to watch them and see and learn. Like, again, six weeks ago, we're talking talking about Shane Steichen for coach in the year. No, it was longer than six weeks ago. It was longer than six weeks.
Starting point is 01:06:01 We lost seven straight. Thank you. Maybe 10. Yeah, eight to 10 weeks ago, brother. Life was good then. But on that note, I like Shane Steichen, and I like Chris Ballard. But man, it's a long time with no success. This is a long time with no success with a lot of excuses in a league where meritocracy is supposed to be the thing. So hopefully
Starting point is 01:06:19 they're able to figure it out. Can't wait to hear what she says at 2.30. And obviously, I respect the hell out of the big three. And whatever Carly says, I got nothing, I will support you, Carly. I will, and I think Colts fans going to take a little bit for them to support it, but if you win and we get back to 8 and 1, you're a super genius.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But if you guys stink again next year with a bunch of trash ass, I'm not doing it. Okay, let's move along. Let's go to Baltimore. Obviously, if Luke makes that kick, the Baltimore Ravens are hosting a playoff game and they're winning the AFC North.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Instead, potential holy water from Father Maximilian Maxwell potentially pushes that thing to the right. Let's talk about the hard. situation because you and Glazer both saying basically the same thing yesterday during your coaching report. Tomlin doesn't feel like it's that hot. Tomlin will make the decision. I think you both have alluded to him potentially doing TV, which would be awesome. We would very much welcome Mike Tomlin on a microphone more often because he hits a home run on a mic every time he's on
Starting point is 01:07:13 a mic. And if he continues the coach, he continues the coach. Both of you said though, Harbaugh feels like a much different situation. Is Harbaugh in the world where he would have to make the decision to step down or how do you think that would kind of come about? especially after how last night unfolded. You know, I think, look, Mike Tomlin's been in Pittsburgh 19 years. John Harbaugh has been in Baltimore 18 years. They are the two longest tenured head coaches with their teams in the National Football League. And these questions have come up with them repeatedly.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And I think, you know, we heard it from the fans of Pittsburgh. We've heard some from the fans in Baltimore. I think over time, fans, they've called for their head coach's job. They don't have an appreciation for the job these men have done over time. and they want something new and something fresh. So with John Harbaugh, I don't think either one of these coaches, Mike Tomlin, John Harbour are getting fired. I think, look, the Raven Seen is over so these conversations can now occur.
Starting point is 01:08:11 You go in and you talk, what is your vision for the future? Do you want me here? What is your vision for the future? Do you want me? And they talk it out. But it just feels like there are things to discuss this year. the season didn't go the way the Ravens wanted it to go. It was another year
Starting point is 01:08:27 where either Zay Flowers, drops the ball near the goal line in the FC championship or Mark Andrews on the two-point conversion or Tyler Loop. It ends in disappointment. And when that keeps happening, you have conversations to discuss how you want to address it and how you want to fix it. And if either side wants to make a change
Starting point is 01:08:43 and maybe, mutually, by the way, like Baltimore wants to move on and go higher whoever else, John Harbaugh automatically to me becomes the Mike Vrable of this year's coaching class, he automatically vaults to the top of most lists and he'd have a job tomorrow, tomorrow. So what does John Harbaugh want to do? Where does you want to coach? Right? We've got openings in Arizona. We've got openings in New York. We've got openings in Cleveland. Where does
Starting point is 01:09:08 you want to go coach? Does you want to be in Baltimore? Does you want to go elsewhere? That's up for him to decide. It's interesting. I didn't even really think about John Harbaugh's opinion in this whole thing. That is crazy. Coach, you've certainly earned it over the years. But if it does feel like Baltimore, you know, if you just read the tea leave seemingly coming out of there, maybe the message has run stale, maybe it is something that is new that is needed there, and maybe that conversation will lead to that with front office and ownership whenever he goes in there and talks about the future, just like whenever Pete Carroll went in there with Schneider, and Schneider said, get the hell out of here, old man, and then moved on
Starting point is 01:09:40 to McDonald, and then now they're the number one seed in the NFC. Those decisions are hard to make, bro. Those are hard decisions to make, legitimately. Go ahead, Shepty. Maybe it's like a married couple. They've been together 18 years. Maybe they're both thinking about breaking it off, and then they say, you know what? Let's stay together and make this work and move forward.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Oh, if you like pinia colladas and getting caught in the rain. You know, it's funny, Schaefter. I don't want to know spoilers here. Husband and wife are actually right into each other there. That's right. It's crazy. Yeah, they're both looking for somebody that loved the good old days, the Pinie Collada. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Turns out she was laying, or he was lying right next to him. Same perfect. The more you do. And then they met up with each other at the end. So they were like, yeah, that's that song Respirs their relationship Yeah, good for them 100% sure I was a little bit of a
Starting point is 01:10:28 Parrothead Is that what it's called? Yeah, Jimmy Buffett I was Parrothead there for a little bit We had some good summers, Jimmy. Great. Boy, those shows are a good time. Pretty reckless those shows, pretty reckless out there.
Starting point is 01:10:44 But yeah, that's what you're saying they're potentially right and see if anybody likes Pinacolados or winning football games and maybe they just need each other. Maybe that's what they need over there. We'll see in that entire thought. It's hard to move on, though, from somebody you've had for a long time. But boy, it feels harder to move on from somebody immediately after one year. Pete Carroll kicked out yet again. What do we think happens now in Las Vegas? Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shepty, obviously Pete Carroll, they signed him to a three-year deal there,
Starting point is 01:11:10 out after one. All the coordinators were fired during the season, basically. They signed Gino Smith also, who knows what's going to go on there. But is Tom Brady? Is he running this search or who is running this search for the Raiders and their new coaching regime? John SpyTech, the GM and Tom Brady will, I think, identify and hire the next day coach of the Raiders. Obviously, Mark Davis will have a big say and some of the other partner owners,
Starting point is 01:11:35 but I think Brady and SpyTick are out front of this. Brady and SpyTick are out in front of this and we'll see how it plays out. Like, Pat, things happen. Like, things happen, you know, news waits for nobody here. Absolutely. Especially on his Black Monday. Now, the Pete Carroll, Tom Brady spy tech situation out there in Las Vegas, they also have the number one overall pick?
Starting point is 01:11:56 They do. So they're going to get Fernando Mendoza, who'll be joining us in about 15 minutes. Raiders fans, you just know you can watch the interview that we're about to do with them, a conversation we're about to have with them, or watch film. This guy is a guy that can turn an entire franchise. If they get a couple things right around them, you can become the Chicago Bears. You can become the New England Patriots. You can become the Jacksonville Jaguars. that's why if you don't make any moves after a long time of failure people are going to say what the hell is going on a jay has a question for you shifty
Starting point is 01:12:25 yeah chefty we hear uh from people i mean on espin all over the internet that stefansky is most likely going to get another job within this this coaching cycle do you think that's the case and also like what are some hot names of people that you think may be off the board quick to get hired i think this is a little bit of a different year first of all i do think that keminsky will wind up with another head coaching job if he wants one I think he's going to be a little bit selective about what he chooses because, look, he just got fired in Cleveland. And so if he gets fired again and the next job he chooses, for whatever reason, then the chances are he's out of hate coaching chances. So you want to be very selective and careful. But I do think that the Giants and the Titans both will have interest in talking with Kevin Stefanski. I do think that he'll be a top candidate in this cycle. I think when we look at some of the others
Starting point is 01:13:17 I think Rahim Morris may get some head coaching interviews here. I think Robert Sala could get some play. I think Oh no, somebody just Is get some interest I hear and get some interviews. Jeff Hathley and Green Bay is going to be somebody at Nagy.
Starting point is 01:13:36 You know, we know some of the names and you just don't know how Vance Joseph in Denver, you don't know how it's going to play out and how each guy will interview. Those are some of the names, I think, that will have some requests here and go on some interviews. Mike McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, Mike McCarthy. It's going to be a part of these. We're excited to see where he ends up. Feels like he feels really rejuvenated after the year of hunting with his dogs and hanging out and watching ball. Oh, it's pretty crazy watching all games. I just won't again.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I learned so much. It's been a fun year. You guys really, you guys really good. Ebbing flows of every week. It's pretty crazy. I'd be excited to see him get another shot. I don't know what his record is, but I think it's up there like.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Very good. Same is like Tomlin and Sean Payton. He's been good to us, and we're not going to openly campaign for anybody, but I think Mike McCarthy would be an awesome coach for somebody after the year that we spent. He's been such a surprise to me, just such a surprise. The way he talks, how he talks, the way he views things. He's a deep thinker this guy. Mike McCarthy's a deep think.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I did not expect that. I think a lot of people probably didn't expect that. He's a like he loves ball too. He loves ball. Speaking of ball, you guys talk. Paul. There's any coach, AJ. How many years he coach you for?
Starting point is 01:14:43 All nine. My nine years in Green Bay, he was my head coach. His first year was my first year. Okay. And how would you feel about him getting a head coaching job? Absolutely. He's the man. And he's even grown and become, I think, even a better coach as he's gotten older.
Starting point is 01:14:56 We would like him to go to a good spot, though. There's some ass places right now where we need him not to go. We would like to see him go and have a good time. We would like to let those places know. We have not told McCarthy that we think your places are ass, though. We have only supported Mike McCarthy doing his thing. Now, let's talk about Mike McCarthy in age. Jay, go ahead, Ty.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah, so the guy who replaced Mike McCarthy-Shepty, for whatever reason, the Matt LaFleur stuff, even with his win percentage being one of the highest, you know, in NFL history through your first eight seasons or whatever, a lot of stuff is still coming up that basically says, like, hey, if the Packers don't have a deep playoff run this year, there's a chance that he's going to be let go by Ed Policy. Are you hearing anything else to that? And who would be the one kind of pushing for that? Is it the media?
Starting point is 01:15:40 Is it Ed Policy? Is it, you know, people in the, you know, like the GM suite? I mean, like who? Because by all intents and purposes, Matt LaFleur has been very good as the Packers head coach, but he has fallen flat in the playoffs. Well, it wouldn't be an immediate decision. It would be, I believe, a head policy decision as the president of the team succeeding Mark Murphy. He is the one in charge of those decisions.
Starting point is 01:16:04 And, you know, Matt LaFleur was asked about his job security this year and commented on it, which led to about a week worth of speculation. And again, I feel the same way about Matt LaFleau that I do, Kevin Stefanski, if they moved on. And he's going to be going to the last year of his deal. I think he'd get a job in this cycle as well. So I don't think it'd be much of an issue. I think the bigger deal here is, can they figure out a contract of fair value to keep them there? I think that's what this is about, them trying to negotiate a contract, seeing what they can come up with,
Starting point is 01:16:33 seeing if they get a deal done, if they get the deal done, it's a non-talking point, and his future is secure there. If they can't figure out a contract that works for both sides, well, then you have to ask yourself, are they willing to let him go into the last year of his deal, which he would be? Or what do you do about that? And very rarely the teams want coaches going into the last year of their deal, which I believe the priority will be to re-sign him to an extension this off-season.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And let's see what happens with that first. Him and Gucci, both? Yeah, both. I think both. Okay. Congrats their backers. They like their guys. They like their guys. They like their guys. Sounds like, Shefti, that's what I heard from you. A couple quick ones. We know we've got to go talk politics.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Go ahead, Kahn. Yeah, Shephti, Arizona, Kyler Murray. What's the situation there? Are they going to kind of hold on to him? Is he going to be part of the new regime? Is he going to let go, trade it maybe? And then same with Miami in Tua. Tua is also done in Miami.
Starting point is 01:17:26 What are those situations there? I think both, I think the expectation is in both places, no matter who's making the decision. Obviously, I was looking for a new head coach. Miami is currently looking for a new GM. I would think that they're both going to be planning to move on from their respective quarterbacks. And it's just a question of how they decide to extricate themselves from those particular contracts, which are burdensome right now.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Let's talk about a young quarterback. Go ahead, Darren. Yeah, a lot of these head coaches that have these turnarounds joined young quarterbacks. Cam Ward had an injury on his throwing shoulder yesterday. Any update on his injury? Sprined AC joint. Doctors told them they don't think you need surgery. So that's an encouraging news development for him.
Starting point is 01:18:07 as you guys would know better than me the last thing you want to do is hurt yourself on the last game of the season after spend time in the rehab room while everybody else is going away on vacation oh brother that was my last four years and I just kind of living in there you actually kind of get more committed to the craft
Starting point is 01:18:22 you get more committed to the business you start learning more people it sucks yeah everybody else is doing really cool stuff what do you got uh 6 am they're going to rub a metal thing up and down my knee so that I don't get any scar tissue on there yeah it's part of it though
Starting point is 01:18:36 that's part of being a professional athlete, happy to hear that it wasn't worst-case scenario for Kay. I'm excited to see how they build down there in Nashville, obviously a great city. All right, good luck out there, Shephty. You know, remember Venezuela, it's crazy. Damn, my button. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Sorry, my senior year of college, I gathered together all my friends. It was spring break, and I gathered together everybody so we could go to Venezuela on a spring break trip because I heard there were nickel beers. So I got, we have like 15 guys, and we went to Venezuela, and while we were there, civil war broke out there.
Starting point is 01:19:11 February, 89, okay? And they had to, like, smuggle us out of the country. This is true. I remember, like, you know, you don't realize how dumb and ignorant you are at that time. Like, I'm on the phone. I'm drinking beers. My best friends on the phone with his dad.
Starting point is 01:19:27 They're, like, trying to figure out how to get us out of the hotel to the end. I'm like, have a beer here. Have a beer. He goes, cut it out. Shut up. Tell that story now. That would be a good story.
Starting point is 01:19:36 1989 Venezuelan history. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaeffner. First news break was probably that. What's that? There's a civil war. Breaking news, civil war is broken out in Venezuela. Him boozing, by the way, it's funny. You guys need to get to the embassy.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Stat. What? It's nickel beers. Not doing that. I learned a lot about Venezuela. I think we all did. Got a lot of oil down there. A lot of gold.
Starting point is 01:20:01 A lot of lot down there. What a wild weekend that was. Marco Rubio interrupts Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit. Who won that game? Was it Detroit? I think it was Hockey Town, aka the Pittsburgh Penguins. Oh. I'm watching that game, obviously having a good time watching
Starting point is 01:20:19 Pittsburgh Penguins might be the hottest team in hockey right now. Look out, Sidney Crosby looks like he's 24. I don't know how that works. He's aging backwards. This guy's fucking Benjamin Button. He's got magic happening. And then all of a sudden, Marco Rubio pops in. If you don't know, now you know, to the whole world.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah, bitch. It's going darn out here. Hope everybody's all right. Hey, these a piece. Well. There's one guy can't see shit or hear shit, I heard. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Good night. What a wild time to be alive. Shout out to football. Shout out to football. Shout out to football. Okay, let's put up Super Wild Car weekend the schedule. AJ, which one of these games outside of the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears? Obviously, a highlight for you and for Ty is the fact that one of the greatest rivalries in all.
Starting point is 01:21:06 volleyball is wrapping up day one, a super wildcar weekend. Which one of these games you most excited about, AJ? I mean, all of them are awesome, but that San Fran Philadelphia game for some reason jumps out of me. I honestly, if I had to pick today, I'm not sure who I'm picking to win that game. I just think San Fran has been
Starting point is 01:21:21 hot. They're good, and we know Philly, even though people don't talk about it, or don't really mention it, I feel like they're defending champs. Like, they were awesome last year. We know they could find a way to turn it on, but I'm curious about that one right there, San Fran Philly. Hey, Coach Tariani, is it a dog mentality to rest all players when there's something on the line well listen that's my decision everyone you know
Starting point is 01:21:40 be talking today about how big and dumb of addiction i would let's say sequo hurts his knee or jalen hurts his throwing shoulder you know you think anyone gives a shit uh if taram mckee you know is out there and he gets his brains bashed in no they don't because they don't want to see terran key playing the the four nineers in the playoffs so is it dog mentality uh not exactly but you know what what what the fuck's the difference between the three seed and two seat anyway. I have a question for you, Coach. So is the 3-seed, 2-seat, that's less
Starting point is 01:22:10 important than DeVante Smith playing to get his money, so it's worth risking him for an injury? Well, I'm a player's coach. And, you know, so if you want a fucking bitch and moan about me saying the guy out here, give a couple extra shekels in his bank account, sue me.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Sue me, I guess I won't do that anymore. You know, and then guess what? When we win Super Bowl this year and Devante, you know, dumps me with the Gatorade bath, he might slide me, I don't know, 10 G's or something. Thanks, Coach. Thanks for remember me, Coach. Appreciate you coach. You know, you just, you can't win.
Starting point is 01:22:42 You can't win. It doesn't matter what you do. You do the right thing. Everyone says you're a dips shit. You don't know what you're doing. You do the wrong thing. They double down and say he's the biggest dip shit. So, I don't know, it's almost like I didn't win a Super Bowl last year. It's almost like I'm one of these other fucking rumdums who's getting fired today. But I'm not.
Starting point is 01:22:58 We're the three seed in the playoffs. Did you guys win your division earlier than everybody else in the league? Yeah, absolutely. It wrapped it up like eight, like six months ago. We have to play a meaningful football game. Outside getting the number one C, we knew that I wasn't going to happen. We didn't play a meaningful football game two months. Well, Coach, what did you think about the Bears losing?
Starting point is 01:23:14 You could have played the Packers by a chance, maybe the two seats. No, I don't know. Personally, no, I don't want to get anything with them. I thought it was kind of a chicken shit moved by Ben Johnson. He was trying to figure out a way to lose that game so he wouldn't have to play Packers in the first round of playoffs. But we said, you know what? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:23:31 We're not doing this. Everybody in America wants to see Bears Packers. again and we got a little bad blood with 4-9ers you remember a couple years ago Nick Boso was basically saying like hey these guys suck like we know exactly how I'll be them I can't remember I think that might be a year we went on and won the Super Bowl so you know maybe he knows something that I don't know but again I'll just let everybody else talk all their bullshit say whatever they want and we're just going to are we going to play a football game is it going to be outside yeah okay that's just how we want and we'll play in a parking lot
Starting point is 01:24:00 if we have to CMC's on a historic run right now coach yeah I guess what he's got coming to the link okay so i'm not i'm not calling for eagles fans to you know maybe put a sock full batteries and smack him in his knees but but if that were to happen let's just say coach wasn't the one telling you that that is not actually coach sriani's words by the way that is ty shman impersonating coach shirioni for those that don't know sure remember a couple years ago whenever we started licensing our show on the espion some sports media people would have typed that out as if those were actual quotes, with no context of them. Just throw us right into a fire.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Got Ryan Day. With every, exactly. Exactly. Vick Lou Holtz got them cooked up there. I appreciate that we have Packers Bears on Saturday night. I also appreciate the fact that the Jacksonville Jaguars, come on man. I know. AJ, after watching them live, after having eyes on the product of the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Starting point is 01:24:59 you think to yourself like coming off the bus, they're a real team. and then you well a lot of people can look good are they actually good it's like yeah oh yeah and Liam Cohen draws up people to be wide ass open nobody really talks about Liam Cohen being some offensive guru McVey shanahan uh maybe Kevin O'Connell gets some love in there nobody really brings up Liam Cohen this dude's dialing up wide ass open guys on a regular basis and Trevor's playing better ball than ever now on the other side an actual alien in Josh Allen that's a great game to kick off Sunday Super Wildcard, AJ? Yeah, it is. And the fact that
Starting point is 01:25:33 Jacksonville not only is relevant, like, they're a legit Super Bowl contender now. That's the thing. That's what Liam Cohen has done to this team. I'm sure they're also loving the fact that they are underdogs at home. I doubt Liam ever mentions that to the squad. They don't even have to talk about it. I'm sure they know it. But I think they have like this, they're in a nice, like, sweet
Starting point is 01:25:50 spot to where they kind of have a chip on their shoulder. No one's giving us a chance, even though they are a very, very good football team that can get hot and has a chance to make the Super Bowl. Yeah, and they're showing ETN right now, which is perfect timing. The whole thing with the bills, you know, was being healthy on offense, which they actually are now. Kincaid Knox is rolling. Keon Coleman playing again, Gabe Davis, everything. But can their defense, you know, get a stop for Josh Allen?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Can they stop the run, do all those things that was kind of the only reason everyone wasn't too, too high on the Bills run in the Super Bowl? And now it does feel like, you know, maybe they have a shot. Yeah, Bill's defense kind of has turned the corner playing well better against the past, better against the run, which was definitely the Achilles Hill down the stretch. But the thing with Liam, like, I think most people knew he was a good play caller, a great offensive mind. Like, if you run back that shot of him
Starting point is 01:26:37 running into the locker room, and that's been him from why to why. We obviously gave him a bunch of shit for the Duvall stuff too. But that's the thing that surprised me the most. Just his character and how we always say teams take on the identity head coach. I never saw this from Lynn. Didn't know much about him, obviously, as a
Starting point is 01:26:53 coordinator, but when you see the personality of a guy, it's why you've seen other people that have the great football mind. But when you go into, you got to stand in front of that room from week one to week 18 and throughout a playoff run and have your team on the same page, you know, ready to run through a wall free. That's tough
Starting point is 01:27:09 to do with a group of professionals. So the way that he's been able to do this for a first year guy and what, year five, quarterback, year six quarterback, like unbelievable from Liam. Yeah, and if you're a Buffalo Bills fan, look at that locker room. See, this is why you build a new stadium. That is so sick having that happened. This isn't even their
Starting point is 01:27:25 new stadium either, by the way. Jacksonville is building a new stadium. Which leads me to my next point, like, congrasses, Shad Khan. Yeah. We said it last week. I would like to reiterate it. Shod Khan has done everything he possibly could for the Jacksonville Jaguars to be good. Wow, not meddling.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Bingo. Like, not meddling at all. Just like, I'll hire the right people, right? These are the right people. This are the right people. I'll give you everything you need. You want to build a new city? Sweet. How many cities do you want to build? Anything for the Jags to be good? Let's do that. Well, we're not getting a lot of fans to the games. We think people have, I don't
Starting point is 01:27:57 we turn us into a festival. Let's get DJs. Let's get pools. Let's go ahead and build that indoor stadium. It's like, Shod has really left no stone unturned, basically, in trying to make this Jacksonville Jaguars team good, and they're here. So congrats to the entire organization. Yeah, and you guys always talk. They used to tarp off. Yeah. I mean, tarp and off the whole fucking thing. Big sections. Yeah. Clonton. But, exactly. Fans were dressing like clans. This video right here. Like, you guys always talk about, you know, like teams who are the tightest are often. And granted, like, I haven't, you know, parsed through every single team who won this weekend who's going to the playoffs, like their video inside the locker room. We see a lot of
Starting point is 01:28:36 these from the Jags. And, like, them given Trevor, you know, the grill, like, you can tell this team is actually, they're very, very tight. And then you go back to Liam Cohen. I understand that Baker's been banged up this year. But, like, you know, you just, you look at what a lot of people say about, you know, like, Liam Cohen maybe should, like, Bucks fans are wishing he would have stuck around and he would have got the head coaching job because he was the one that really unlocked Baker last year and kind of took him to a new level, and we maybe should have seen that coming, you know, in terms of just unlocking Trevor. Now, I don't know if anyone would have expected them to go 11 and 4, but it seems like everything is just going in the right
Starting point is 01:29:11 direction for the Jags. Right direction, yeah. Cam Little says, I'll send this ball in the direction of the upright from anywhere. Unbelievable. From 67 and hits the net, okay, so you get to the 50 down there. Now, there is a little, Jacksonville does have a one-way jet stream that certainly does help. The Colts had an opportunity before half one time for like a 65-yarder. Chuck Pagano didn't send me or Vinny out there for it, decided to throw Hail Mary that we did not complete. Certainly a conversation that happened while we were jogging in the locker room of what the fuck are we doing here. We got a downwind for this opportunity. We don't go for it. But every opportunity that this guy goes for, he makes. Cam Little is cold, dude. He's already got a jersey
Starting point is 01:29:49 in the Hall of Fame, this guy for what he's done in the past. Now he hits a 67-yarder like it's a chip shot. This dude's outrageous. So Logan, cooks their punter, bombs. Absolute bomb. And a dog. And he's a beast. Yeah, he will fight you. Shit matters. We saw it last night. All of it. Yeah. Kicking game. Like, game is huge playoffs and these, you know, outdoor situations, obviously won't be, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:11 this week you're in Jacksonville, who knows where it would be. But a lot of these games, we talk about, you know, the goat, Vinny, like a lot of those played games came down the big time kick. So if you have a weapon like this, that's unbelievable. I love the swag. Yeah, me too. Congrats, Cam. Congrats, Cam. His last thing's little. He's not that little. He's actually average size. Colts do have a little guy kicking for him,
Starting point is 01:30:31 and he put his entire body. He did. That's on his first time. We've seen that live in real person. I mean, he's pretty active guy on the sideline. We've chatted about it before. I think he's like... Three and a half, three and three point seven five pylons, probably,
Starting point is 01:30:45 if you stack him on top of each other. Because he's running down the sidelines a lot. We see him, you know, he's a little guy. He's very active during games. I mean, every single time he can run. he's definitely going to do that yesterday he said you know what i'm going to throw it all at him and uh that's not the first time he's done this multiple times scoring kickoffs this year and try to get his head on the ball too he's trying his head on the ball absolutely so blake i want to
Starting point is 01:31:09 let you know we appreciate your efforts keep it going we need more of you out there i still don't know how that dude kicks the ball so far without small use i mean he's clearly a small he might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL actually might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL and he had a 60 yard field goal in Seattle so it's like Blake keep doing you're the least of our problems in Indianapolis we're lucky that you're there Blake keep it rolling join this now speaking of Indianapolis there's a town about an hour and 15 minutes south of year called Bloomington Indiana it had been forever known as place where Bob Knight made the Indiana Hoosier basketball team a relevant conversation for every single sports conversation in the
Starting point is 01:31:47 entire country now it's known as the place that has the number one football team in the country Now, it's done as the place that is home for the Rose Bowl champions. Now, it's known as the home of the Heisman. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, quarterback for the IU Hoosier football team, Fernando Mendoza. How are you, brother? Great, great. Hey, boys, really appreciate having me on.
Starting point is 01:32:09 It was great seeing you guys on the sideline. And then during the end of the game, that great migration you guys made on our sideline. Yeah, it was a great migration. Thank you for showing us love. I didn't even think about calling it a migration. That certainly was. what it was. You know, as you know, the exit is right up that tunnel for us, so we were trying
Starting point is 01:32:25 to get ahead of it. We didn't know how we were going to get from one end zone to the other. We looked at the Alabama sideline. That looked pretty bummed out over there. Indiana sideline, we're going that way. So we can start walking through. Thank you for showing us love. It was nice to see everybody. The vibes are obviously immaculate. Sig got a big smile and even a hug. Okay, even a hug. I told him like, hey, it was an honor to watch your boys. But let's talk about this. It was an honor to watch your team. You're the first team in CFP history to be able to get through the long by and it wasn't rust, it was just rest. How do you think you guys were able to handle the amount of time off with the
Starting point is 01:32:59 Heisman and everything else and still come out buzzing like you guys did? What are your thoughts on the prep that you guys had during that long layoff that nobody else has been able to succeed with? Yeah, I think Coach Signetti and staff had a fantastic plan throughout that month break and going in that first drive, we saw out on the first driver and had a three now. They stacked us twice and I can definitely see why teams can get off to a slow start, especially the first play. I was like, wow, this is real football again. I haven't played football in 26 days. Essentially, like, it essentially had a whole other fall camp of just anticipating this game all the way up to the Rose Bowl game. And so I can definitely see why teams get off to a slow start.
Starting point is 01:33:35 However, once we got that three and out, we want on the sideline, we're like, all right, we're going to play our brand of ball. We know what we got to do. And we were so hungry for this game and all the anticipation of this game that's been brewing for the 26 days ever since the Big Ten Championship. We were ready for it and ready to conquer the moment. Yeah, it looked amazing and looked fantastic. You're obviously spinning it to all your weapons. Tell me about the run game. Pat Coogan wins the offensive player of the Rose Bowl, which is obviously a special moment. I did not know that Kirk Herb Street decides who the players of the games are. He wanted to pick the entire offensive line. They said that's not possible. So he picks Pat Coogan. You all go
Starting point is 01:34:08 crazy for him. Tell me about the offensive line and obviously how important it's been to this entire run. Well, first of all, I want to thank you, Mr. Herbstree for that, because Pat Coogan getting the offensive MVP has been so huge for our team. I think it's given another boost in jolt of confidence for offensive line. They've done such a great job this year and whenever I
Starting point is 01:34:27 or any other player on our team gets an award, we always try to emphasize it. Hey, Pat Coogan, the rest the offensive line, all those guys are ballers and the only reason we're up at this point. I think him getting that award has really shown the offensive line our appreciation for them and the world's appreciation for them. And really
Starting point is 01:34:44 kind of giving us a little boost and jolt especially going against a really tough Oregon defensive line next week. Reese Davis, fantastic job up there. You know, Reese delivering the ladies and gentlemen, a little misdirection a couple of different times. I love the delivery. I love the celebration you all had for him. And I appreciate that Pat, you said,
Starting point is 01:35:01 was the one that basically gave the speech about you all being misfits, right? Quite a leader and a rallyer for your entire squad, I'd assume. How many of those guys do you have? And do you feel like this is the tightest team you've ever been on? It looks like you guys love each other down there in Bloomington. yeah this is an extremely tight team not only tight on the field we're very tight off the field and pat is i mean he's basically if not the captain and one of the biggest captains on our team and especially our offense he always gives us pregame speeches half-time speeches and make sure
Starting point is 01:35:30 that we never had that complacency and it's all a trickle-down effect from coach sig to the coordinators to our position coaches to then the leaders on the team to then really just throughout the entire team so i think pat is a great representation of that he always boosts us with a little jolt of a pre-game speech, whether it's a misfit speech, whether it was a speech he gave us before the Rose Bowl, or the speech at halftime saying, hey, Oklahoma, they were up 17-0. You know, we
Starting point is 01:35:53 don't want to fall in that trap. They're a good team. Alabama's resilient. Let's stomp them. Let's drag into the deep end until the last bubble comes up. Then we could celebrate. And so having guys like that on the team and having that mindset of that team is really why we were able to pull away. Oh, I love that. I just got like kind of chills here and I like that.
Starting point is 01:36:09 And I couldn't even imagine Cygnetti here in one of his boys. That's a good one. that's good yeah fucking last bubble actually yeah we're talking about real death here now on that note the last question for me
Starting point is 01:36:21 before the boys have questions and we appreciate you Fernando taking time here obviously the game is just a few days away you warm up when you spit every ball you throw is a tight spot
Starting point is 01:36:30 is a perfect spiral and I don't want to jinx anything you throw absolute darts I mean dots on a very regular basis every warm up throw is a dart every warm up throw is right on the money I mean you are a special
Starting point is 01:36:43 elite ball thrower, brother, which is obviously great for the next level, and it's great for Indiana right now. There was one time, when third quarter maybe, maybe third quarter during a commercial break, you were spinning it. Signetti walks, do you remember this?
Starting point is 01:36:58 Sig walks right in between you and who you're throwing a ball to. You clear his head by about that much, and then it turns over right into the hands of whoever was catching it. I thought you killed Signetti as the ball was real, because where we were standing, I was literally watching it all happened.
Starting point is 01:37:14 It goes right over top of it. Is that a normal thing? And who's the person you play catch with all game? Is that the same person every single time? Yes, I would say during the TV timeouts, especially in these college football games, there's a lot of TV timeouts. And I would say it's not underappreciated,
Starting point is 01:37:30 but a moment about college games that people don't talk about enough. You're about to get on the field, and all of a sudden you see the stick and it says three minutes or 250, and you're like, wow, man, I'm ready for this drive and I just got to wait. So I always try to get,
Starting point is 01:37:41 I always have a routine. Always like a way to get myself ready. I always get a lot of throws in with my younger brother or another quarterback, Grant Wilson here on the team, and we're throwing, they're giving me tips about my technique, hey, shorter stride, hey, be more stable. And then after I do that, I get some water, you know, throw a little prayer up to God and to the man, JC, and I get ready to, and then I get ready to execute on the next drive. And so I would say one thing about, you know, the Signetti incident is I'm always very confident in my accuracy. Not only, if not the most important, it's one of the most important components of a quarterback. And so that's something to pride myself on.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And every quarterback, they would tell you they really pride themselves on their accuracy and the way their ball spins. Yeah, well, yours is tight. And that thing, Signetti takes a lot of pride in what you could do too. Yeah, he just walked right. I mean, that ball was right over his head. I'm like, I don't know how many people are watching this right now, but the entire world would have found out about that if that would have taken place. But instead, perfect layer throw right over top of SIG's head, turns over,
Starting point is 01:38:40 drops right into somebody's hands either Alberto or Grant. It was special watching you, man. It was a great day. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Fernando, I guess watching your guys' defense in person, it's a thing of beauty, how they play, how fast they play, how physical they are, how discipline they are. I guess how quickly did you realize that, hey, this defense is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I know you got to campus about a year ago. I'm guessing in Springball, you probably watched these guys fly around and knew you had something special. What's it like to be on the sidelines and watch your defense just dominate? Yeah, the first couple of days of spring camp, I was like, wow, this defense is either the best defense in the country, or I'm not as good as I thought I would. So having that experience and be able to play against such a great defense through spring ball, through fall camp, giving myself a ton of tough days and a ton of tough looks. A lot of tricky looks, because Coach Hayne really does cook up the defensive looks. It's helped myself develop so much as a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:39:33 And, I mean, as a lineback, I'm sure you can appreciate the efforts of Aidan Fisher, Isaiah Jones, and Elijah Hardy, all those guys are ballers. I'd say every part of the defense, whether it's a defensive line, whether it's a second level or the third level, they're all intricate in their own ways, and they all play in such harmony and symphony with a great synergy all towards a common goal of trying to disguise looks, trying to confuse the quarterback while also creating disruption. Harmony, symphony, and great synergy, and they all thump and bump. I mean, they are tackling through the ground. The most physical teams won. That is our takeaway from the quarterfinals. the most physical teams, the most dominating teams in the trenches are the ones that won. I think that's going to continue to go forward. And your team has been special there, both on the offense and defensive line.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Let's say, last question here about the game. Go ahead, comment. Yeah, Fernando, Riley Nowakowski seemed to be kind of an unsung hero for your team. He was lead blocking. He also picked up a massive third down, breaking a tackle, running up the sideline. Oh, here it is, perfect timing. What does he mean to your entire team? What kind of, you know, player in person?
Starting point is 01:40:38 is he and also just so you know the edits right now on social media of you after dropping a however that leads into you just slicing and dicing the Alabama team is just absolutely fantastic internet so hopefully you see one or two of those and I know for sure the internet is always undefeated no matter what happens so shout out to the internet shout out shout out but Riley is I mean he's a great player I think on the field he's he's he's he's He's a tight end, but he's also a little bit like a fullback. He's like a college cowl use check, like a college cowl use check. Obviously, you know, Kyle's a fantastic player, so, you know, his praises are there.
Starting point is 01:41:17 But I say he's a college version. Not only is he fantastic in the past game with that big catch, but he's like a little muscle bowling ball. And so whenever you always throw him, you know he's going to get the maximum yak. And he's also so fundamental in the ground game. He's a great lead blocker. He's essentially the fullback of our team. And to have that is such a great fundamental because, you know, like you said, all
Starting point is 01:41:37 the teams, the most dominated teams throughout the quarterfinals, they're the one that won the game. And as long as everyone loves talking about the quarterback and the receivers and the skill positions, but it really comes down the line. And he is just like an added boost, like essentially another, if anything, another offensive lineman that could also catch the ball to our team. You guys are moving his ass. He was, I mean, the amount of motion he had like a time he killed. Jersey was filthy. Filthy, early. I mean, you had them all over the place. I'm like, is that? Because it's too big of a body to be moving as much as it is. And I'm literally seen there. Nowakowski in motion
Starting point is 01:42:07 again, this guy. I mean, he's a big dude to be running like that. Obviously that goes to the cardio. That goes to the fitness. That goes to the commitment to ball. That goes to 30-some days or 26 days of no football and remaining locked in. Shot to the who. Who? Who?
Starting point is 01:42:23 You guys are fun to watch. Let's talk about the next game now. Go ahead. Ty? Yeah, Fernando, looking ahead to the Peach Bowl, how much can you guys take away from the previous Oregon game? Obviously, going to Eugene and getting that big win when everyone was kind of saying, hey, is Indiana still for real?
Starting point is 01:42:40 Is there anything you can take away from that? And have you thought at all about how, while it is a neutral site game, it was probably 80% Indiana fans at the Rose Bowl, and I assume it's going to be very similar down in Atlanta. Yeah, Austin Stadium was a fantastic environment, and we had pre-snap troubles that game. We had a couple false starts, a couple penalties,
Starting point is 01:43:02 and so I think that having that home field advantage in Atlanta, which you never know until you get there in the game and you see how loud the crowd is on either side. However, assuming that we're not going to have to go on dialing count just because of how far, you know, Eugene is from Atlanta and as well as just it being a neutral site game, it's usually 50-50, and hopefully, you know, there's more fans on our side.
Starting point is 01:43:23 I think that would be huge for us. And, you know, going to Austin Stadium, I believe it was week five or week six, going to play against such a great defense led by their coach, Coach Lupoi, and just like overall great team that is always motivated. with Coach Laning, they spoke a testament to that point of the season that we could really do this, and we were destined to become a great team and be able to make the college full of playoffs. And I think throughout the entire season, we've been able to approve that point.
Starting point is 01:43:45 However, beating a good team twice, not a good team, a great team twice, is extremely difficult. They're star-studded on both offense and defense, draft picks all across the board. And so to be able to have to play them twice, you know, they have changed a little bit throughout the season. But having to play them twice is going to be tough. It's going to be a great challenge for us. Yeah, it's good for the Big Ten to see you both there, obviously. 10 has been dominant through the national championship. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:07 So that's how big 10 people are talking. That's how big 10 people are talking. But through the entire bowl kind of season here, the big 10 has just been. Yeah, it has been real. Hey, the Southerns are going to have to look in the mirror. I mean, the Southerns are going to have to look in the mirror. I saw a couple on Paul Feinbaum's show start to say, we're in trouble down here. We are in trouble down here.
Starting point is 01:44:31 A lot of pressure on Ole Miss. Yeah, a lot of pressure on Ole Miss. He might be the guy, honestly. Hey, the final four teams are awesome. I don't know how much you know about what's going on in Miami or what's going on at Ole Miss. You four are representing college football perfectly. And the way you guys play, in the way you operate, and the way you act is special. Dan Lannning and Signetti are basically just a younger and older version of each other.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I mean, it is, it has been awesome to kind of follow along with all the stories. Now, for you, you added a weapon in the Big Ten championship that the world got to see. That continued it to Rose Bowl. And everybody else is getting healthy. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Fernando. know, Pat's obviously talking about Charlie Becker there. He has been awesome. Obviously, you have Cooper, you have Surratt.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You talked about Noah Koski. You got your running backs. And then I saw you do an interview. I can't remember who it was with, but you were talking about the old Dominion game and maybe potentially trying to do too much. And then you realize, hey, like, I just got to be a point guard for these guys. How awesome is it? And how much does it benefit you to have all those weapons?
Starting point is 01:45:26 And then is it you just read the defense and dictate that the defense dictates where you're going? Because you have all these guys. and no matter who you're going to, it's the right decision. Yeah, so our first game is Old Dominion. It was a rough game for myself because I thought, wow, I'm an anticipated transfer. I need to go out there, and I really need to be, not Superman, but just try to show everybody that I'm such a great quarterback and make all these insane throws and kind of run all over the place.
Starting point is 01:45:53 And that game actually had zero passing touchdowns. I actually searched it up Blair. It was the first time a Heisman quarterback's ever had zero touchdown in the first game. So, you know, able to bounce back from that. But after that game, my quarterback coach and I, we sat down and we said, hey, you just got to be a point card. All you got to do is be a point card, distribute the ball. When the defense gets too much depth, just check it down. There's one play in Alabama that actually set us up for our second touchdown.
Starting point is 01:46:15 That was great that one of our running backs, Black, got open on a checkdown and ran for 12 yards. So it was really about being a point card. We have such a great offensive line, such great receivers, and we also have such a fantastic run game. They were all going to be able to complement each other, and all I need to do is be the most efficient quarterback possible. So that's been my goal throughout the entire season, and there's been many games where I've had a really high completion percentage or been really efficient, such as the Alabama game. And I believe that's the best way to help my team,
Starting point is 01:46:39 so I'm going to keep on doing it every single game. I'll continue to gash you up any chance we get. Hembo just sent a stat that is exactly what you just talked about. Fernando Mendoza, 14 of 16 with three past touchdowns. He joined Tua, 2018 Orange Bowl, is the only quarterbacks with more past touchdowns than incompletions. Gee. In college football, very good.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Hey, that was the, you know, the rest of us thing, too. Comes out pretty clean. I'm telling you, when we were watching you throw in warm-ups, we're like, this guy doesn't, there's not a single flub, no flubs. And with the paint on the ball, obviously you see it a little bit. You throw seeds. And then you got a fatter ass, I think, that a lot of people think. You are, hey, you're a stallion.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I think not a lot of people understand. You were running a little bit more there in the Rose Bowl. Was that a conscious decision before the game, in the game? Like, how do you kind of view and make those decisions? because you are a strapping lad. I don't think people really fully understand that. You're obviously incredibly smart. You can spin it.
Starting point is 01:47:35 You're tall and you are thick. I mean, you are, you know, pause, obviously. Yeah, respect you. You can. But you're a big dude, and you're moving, brother. I don't think any of us expected that. I don't think Alabama was looking for that as well. Is this part of your game we haven't seen,
Starting point is 01:47:50 or we just don't respect enough, Fernando? Yeah, I would say with a fantastic offense align, we really haven't been able to see my run game too much and, you know, Coach Owens and the strength staff here got me up from, I think, 205-2-10 to now a low of where I need a way in and weigh ends every week at 225. And with that, I've been able to put on good weight
Starting point is 01:48:13 where I'm able to run and I'm able to still be fluid in my movements. And whenever the team needs me to run, I can always run. And so my mindset's always, every play is essentially a puzzle for me. I have five or six options, you know, with throwing the ball, and then my sixth or seventh option will be, hey, let me just run the ball or throw it away.
Starting point is 01:48:32 And so sometimes when, you know, there's a third down and three that we had, that was pretty crucial, they bluff cover zero, was able to tell their bluff, going through my progression, wow, no one's there. Alabama did a great job. There's a reason they're in the college football quarterfinals. Like, they're a great defense. At that point, hey, I got to put my body in the line. I got to maneuver something and I got to go get the first down.
Starting point is 01:48:49 And so what are my team caused me to run? I'll always be able to run. Oh, my gosh. Just listening to you frame it as a puzzle because you're a nerd. You're a football nerd as well. So not only 6-5 can move, can spin it, you're also a football nerd. And it being phrased is like every play's a puzzle basically. And then in real time, you're just, okay, yeah, but-b-ba-ba-Queen's Gambit on the ceiling.
Starting point is 01:49:10 We're figuring it all out. Middle of the play. This is a good football team. Man, it's pretty good. Wow. They bluff me. You got me. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Let's see what's next. I would actually, you know what? I would actually like to see you fill out one of those puzzles or, hey, point at the bikes so you prove that you're a real human. because a lot of people out here think you are maybe a robot or controlled by AI. So what do you like to do with your teammates? What human hobbies do you like to do with the boys? Yeah, the boys, especially here in Bloomington, Indiana. It's a very fun college town.
Starting point is 01:49:39 So we always like to go out and eat. We always like to go out and eat. You know, after some big games, especially at the Big Ten championship game, when we got back, we like to go out. So we like to go out. We like to go eat. And so whatever you can imagine in a college town, we do. And so it's always a good time with the boys.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I love to hear that. Feels like you guys... Don't want to say too much of national television here, but, you know, not try to throw anyone on the bus because we are focused on Oregon. And after Alabama,
Starting point is 01:50:03 we got home at 5 a.m. So at that point, it's like, hey, we're always on Oregon. But, you know, there are times that we have fun. And I think that's the best part of college football. If you ask any players who play college football,
Starting point is 01:50:14 it's not only the big wins, it's hanging with the boys after the wins. Yeah. The crazy nights after the wins. It's just the great moments. Hey, that's what we're doing it for. Go ahead. He's the only quarterback on the team
Starting point is 01:50:23 to beat the by week so far. And I got to say, that's exactly what chat GP2. I probably say, I go out to eat the boys. We go out to eat food. Hey, I like the people are saying you're an AI quarterback, brother. It's a great time to have an AI quarterback here in Indiana. You're doing great things for us. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Muchos gras, amigos. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. God bless. Hey, no problem. See, I spoke some Spanish there. Did you hear that? I thought I really did it.
Starting point is 01:50:51 I thought I nailed that. You said absolutely not, Gringo. Is that what you said right there to me? No, I mean, your Spanish is great. Your Spanish is great. It can definitely go through a lot of Mexican restaurants in Indiana. There's plenty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:04 There's a lot of them. Yeah, we can't wait. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Fernando Mendoza. Endo. Okay, he's Cuban. Miami. Did I speak the proper Spanish?
Starting point is 01:51:18 You thought he was going to throw it back at you? Didn't you think he was going to throw something? Hey, Nana. Bro, I thought Deinano was coming back. back right there. I was so excited for it. I even potentially had a response, depending upon what he said. Potentially had a response. If he would want too far
Starting point is 01:51:32 in there, I don't see, see, you know, I would have got in there. But I appreciate that, dude, man. Special. You know, and Transfer Portal is open right now. The window's open. And Indiana just signed a bunch of people. I mean, they got Josh Hoover there from TCU. They got an
Starting point is 01:51:48 end. They got an end. Marsh from Michigan's office. I mean, Indiana has been the Transfer Portal Kings. They really have them in Texas Tech. Texas Tech has done very well. They flipped their entire program. I guess Vandy, you could also add into the conversation with what they've been able to do.
Starting point is 01:52:01 And what Kurt Signetti is able to do is evaluate very well, but also say, those are our guys. Like, these are the type of guys we want. Signetti and Mendoza feel like. Yeah. Doesn't that feel like a match made? Perfect. Oh, my goodness. Absolutely perfect.
Starting point is 01:52:16 But you said how Signetti evaluates talent and brings the right guys in, but then how those, that coaching staff gets those guys to play together and play so. hard and so fast. That's to me the most impressive thing. It's funny. It feels like SIGs doing two jobs at once because a lot of the guys that they brought in, they either played or he definitely watched film of them playing. They played
Starting point is 01:52:36 Michigan State this year and then they brought in the B.C. running back, the B.C. running back had a good game against Michigan State. So while he's watching film preparing for Michigan State, he definitely saw these things. Like these college coaches have to do one job and then another job while they're doing that job. Turbo coming to Indy.
Starting point is 01:52:52 That's good name. Hell of a name. That's a good name. for a running back. But yeah, both Lannning and Signetti had their press conferences. Colerious. Both of them just like mental warfare happening but also sharing the same sentiment. It's kind of bullshit
Starting point is 01:53:06 what we got to do right now while we're preparing for the biggest game but hey, I guess it's college football now. I couldn't study for four hours because I got recruits on here, but we'll see how it goes and then Laning goes, keep worried about the recruits over there, SIG. We got the same thing happening here. It's crazy time for obviously football, but it's a great time. We're so
Starting point is 01:53:22 incredibly thankful that we get to talk about it. tell a friend something nice in my change your life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Really think I got it in there. You're dead. You're dead. I came up out of nowhere. The music. Shout to Nick. He's back. Good. See you, Nick. Sunshine. He's delightful. Big smile. Big smile this morning.
Starting point is 01:53:40 He came skipping him. Joe view. Steeler's victory last night. Come on. Good to hear. Yeah, I spent a lot of emotion last night. So, you know, all that was left was the good stuff. It was nice. Yeah, we appreciate that. You should have had a lot of good stuff last night. It was the greatest ending. It could have possibly. possibly been for the Pittsburgh Steelers. There was a lot of agonized moments up until that ending.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Yeah, but the dopamine dump after that ball because of Father Maximilian Maxwell's holy water. I mean, I had to be... The Seagone Road? So he's actually from our understanding, substitute priest. Not anymore. There might have been a Wally Pip situation
Starting point is 01:54:15 happened with the priesting over there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I genuinely don't have any follow-ups to the story, but Father Paul normally priest for the Pittsburgh Steelers, we met him. He is the head priest up there at St. Vincent. St. Vincent actually has a has an arch abbey, which is a monastery with a bunch of monks. It is a very Catholic place, like maybe the most Catholic place in America. I have no idea how many of these there are. Father Paul is the head of the arch abbey. Father Maximilian Maxwell, he is the prior to the arch abbey.
Starting point is 01:54:51 He's the vice president. of the monastery of Catholic monks. That looked just like Chuck for a second. It did. Chuck Bogano was trying to get some sage after that holy water, but just didn't get it quick enough. And Father Maximilian substitute father might be step priest's time to step in full time here. Yeah, I mean, it's over.
Starting point is 01:55:16 We love Father Paul. He was good to us. He was great to us. He gave us some sweet trinkets from up there. Not trinkets. father still has right you know I mean I'm Catholic I can say that
Starting point is 01:55:26 they're trinkets but you know and also you know a couple ice cold beers that his family was making but and again I don't know if this is corroborated
Starting point is 01:55:36 I don't know if this is true I have heard that maybe he doesn't bless the field with Holy Water before the game and Father Maximilian decided you know what I think I'm going to tonight and then it's in the same end zone
Starting point is 01:55:49 that Tyler Lute misses the kick you found your new team chaplain right there. And listen, it's just, it is a Wally. It's probably the biggest Wally Pipp situation since Wally Pipp got Wally Pipp by Lou Gehrig. God bless him. Yeah, God did, I guess. He did. God kind of made the decision here. A little bit. I don't know how they, how do the Catholics feel about like signs from God? Pretty strongly. Yeah. And especially if it's a priest who's kind of, it's like, oh, this guy's, this guy's talking to God. I know They say they all are.
Starting point is 01:56:22 This guy's got his ear. So, like, in Avatar, the little Allway tree lands on Jacob Solly. Yes. The little leaf. Yep. Or whatever. Yeah, there it is. And they all go, holy hell.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Yep. Don't kill him. He looks like a dupus, but I guess, you know, they're saying. AWOL loves him. AWOL loves him. Yeah, that's a whole thing. So that's actually what it. The Catholics view that potential, right, as a very obvious sign.
Starting point is 01:56:46 That's a sign from our Lord and Savior. Now that, would that be false? son. It could be the Holy Triumvirate. Somebody. The father, son, and the Holy Ghost potentially. Which is... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Enomen a patre, et fillet Spirit de Santo. Or in the name of the father, the son, Holy Spirit. I'll tell you what, and if it's making folks miss kicks, go to playoffs, I think a lot more people are going to start buying into Catholicism in Pittsburgh. I think you might be right.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Mike Tomlin, T.J. Watt. And Roger. Big Ben. No, Camp Hayward, huh? Cam Hayward had a game of his life. Offense, defense, and special teams. Four of them. Yep, right there. One, two, three, four. Boom. I don't know if they're going to have enough wooden pews around Pittsburgh for what's going on right now.
Starting point is 01:57:27 They're not. I think those Catholic churches. We're getting baptized tomorrow. You are? I'm already baptized. I don't know why I said that. Catholic Church? No. Presbyterian.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Thank you. Which is? A branch of Catholicism. Got it. As you know, I could tell I went a lot. Branch of Christianity. Whatever. You get it.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Catholicism is also a branch of Christianity. Christianity means... It's kind of overarching. A long time since CCD. That means Jesus. Yeah. CCD was a good time. Saturdays.
Starting point is 01:58:03 I got booted. Okay. Let's pray, really. What's that? What was that? What was that? I used to have to go wearing my... I used to get the opportunity to go wearing my football base because I had a game directly after it.
Starting point is 01:58:15 So I'd be clunking in there in my cleats and my pants. and then go take out, you know, my CCD class, then go to play a game. So does everybody have CCD? That's what I'm learning about. It's basically Sunday's cool. Yeah. Yeah, but it's on Saturday morning, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:58:28 Yeah, it was Saturday morning. I was on Tuesday night, yeah. Boom. Oh, Saturday morning was much better. And there's nothing me and my brothers disliked more respectfully. We were pulling teeth not to go. I'll tell you what, if it was a nighttime one, I would have been very angry, I think.
Starting point is 01:58:42 I would not have enjoyed God. I'm surprised you said Saturday morning. I thought that would have pissed you off, too. Oh, no, that's something to do. It was something to do. I had soccer probably at some point, but it was like something to do. I didn't watch that. You know I didn't watch that.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Saturday morning cartoons? I'm not watching fucking cartoons. You know that. We all know that. We all know I'm not watching. Missed out. I'm going to CCD going, I don't know. Then my dad going, yeah, you listen.
Starting point is 01:59:09 All right. They're saying, yep. Exactly. Shut up. Listen. All right. All I know is. people from other elementary schools are going.
Starting point is 01:59:19 So there was a chance to meet more people, talk to more people. What a time CCD was. That was a nice little gathering. Obviously, I didn't learn enough. Because I didn't know that if you throw some holy water down, the other team's going to miss a kick. I wonder if they're fucking preaching that in CCD. They need to start, certainly in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Yeah, that time of you. We all know Father Maximilian in what his heavenly hands did. He might be getting a little bit more power, huh? Are we looking at him maybe next pope here? Father Maximilian, is that how we go? Is that how the steps go here? He's got a ways to go.
Starting point is 01:59:51 He needs to climb the ladder a little bit more, but after something like that, you know, Pope Leo might look at him and be like, this guy's got... He didn't see Pope Leo at the Bears game. But Pope Leo got... Is he going to go to a Bears game? From the bottom of the bear in number two seats.
Starting point is 02:00:07 That's a good point. Pope Leo, legit. I mean, Chicago... So he started as a priest. Yes. In Chicago. I want to say Philadelphia, maybe. But from Chicago.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Yes. Goes over there. Then he goes to Latin America, I think, somewhere. Yeah, somewhere. And then he goes to Italy, and then he becomes the guy. Yeah. Comes a cardinal at some point, and then. There is someone with Seattle with the Pope.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Anytime there's been a new Pope announced over the last three popes, Seattle has gone to the Super Bowl. Oh, so they see the Grace Brooks. Yeah, they show. One seat and answer, both. Oh, sorry, yeah, one see to answer. Oh, boy. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Something's got to give here. Was that Father Maximilian? because he also exists now too. Well, I was going to say the sitting pope has never had skin in the game. He does this year. You know, it was previous two popes those guys don't give a shit about, you know, NFL
Starting point is 02:00:56 football. I thought the one before was a huge Hesley. J.P.J.J. the second. Yeah, I thought he loved Heselbeck. There's arguments out there to be made for me. Joey Porter did you? No, John Paul. Oh. You know. I thought he had Sean Alexander tattoo.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Again. Cole Musgrove 23's reporting on his ex-account. 2005 a new pope is elected Seahawks win 13 games of Ancestry Bowl 2013 a new pope's elected Seahawks win 13 games of Ancistre Bowl 2025 new pubs elected Seahawks win 13 games and
Starting point is 02:01:25 you tell me he was writing a story Also a lot of turnover for the popes I didn't know is this quick Feels pretty quick for the Pope's usually not right Well it's because they're you know Old as Dinos And maybe rest in peace that
Starting point is 02:01:39 Tall Oh yeah Well Leo well the ones let's get to a break All right On the other side
Starting point is 02:01:50 We'll obviously break down everything We weren't able to touch And then Yeah we'll skirt right into a Tuesday No Monday night No more weekday Prime time I guess next Monday
Starting point is 02:02:01 Is there TGL or anything tonight? No It was Friday Fuck that How was it? I enjoyed it It came down to the last hole And it was entertained
Starting point is 02:02:13 but Friday night ain't nobody watching that so I you know same issues as we've always had speaking of watching things more people are watching now than ever let's make sure we're getting football right these rules analysts I just learned of this dude's existence
Starting point is 02:02:30 I don't know where he paid his dues or earned his actual ref stripes can't have him can't take it what's his name Chase oh yes I had a bunch of people saying McAfee talking about his coworker
Starting point is 02:02:42 I don't fucking know that guy I'm talking for the good of ball dude, for the good of ball we need somebody who's good in there you know, like that is what we need we need somebody that's good a ball now maybe he just had an off night maybe they feel obligated to stick up
Starting point is 02:02:55 for the reps or whatever it is but like for the good of ball then I have Connie Carberg first ever NFL scout I think of Connie first scout first female first female scouts she wrote a book
Starting point is 02:03:07 she tweets me after I go refs her ass rules analysts also ass this is not great she goes so many people pulling for the Carolina Penn I'm pulling for ball yeah I'm pulling for ball right now Alec Pierce getting ejected in his biggest game that's bad because the guy runs into him
Starting point is 02:03:24 it's like yeah right these refs come on come on this is a lot of eyes right now at TMAC OPI that was well that was the one unbelievable he did push him a little hard there all right let alone the two point conversion let's not forget about that was Seattle a couple weeks ago that has paid dividends for that
Starting point is 02:03:43 that team. Okay, so let's just make sure we're all on point. It matters. Everything matters now. Let's just remember that when we're getting in there. And you're representing all of ball. I don't care who's getting screwed or who's benefiting from the call. I just worry about ball. That's what we worry. We worry about ball. Yeah. It's a lot harder than it looks, I think. That, that gig. The good ones are very good. And the other ones, you know, have some more. I don't think you can just drop anybody in, which makes me feel like the NFL should maybe say like, hey, for prime time games. We are going to provide somebody.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Gene Steretor. Works every primetime game. He's great. He's great. And he knows everything about everything. And he'll even say, ah, by the book it says he probably caught up. But in the moment, I don't think.
Starting point is 02:04:30 He's speaking for ball. Like he's representing football as a whole. We need good doing that. Because ball is like this. Let's keep it going like this. Yeah. I do like when the analysts stand up for the players too. JJ, Dano.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Maybe Orlovsky can do it, actually. He knows all the rules, hands down. A lot of people saying Dano knows everything there. Yeah. I don't know. Lou Dick might know more, I think. Well, that's kind of what it is. It's just a dick measuring contest between these guys
Starting point is 02:05:02 about who knows more about football. Can we talk about the game? Great game. Let's get to a break? I just need these refs to do it. It's a hard job. We get it. But we need you to do good.
Starting point is 02:05:14 And rules analyst guy in the fucking booth, you're working for the people. You're not working for the refs. Yeah. They're in their buddies. They're in a weird spot. They got to know that going in, though. You're working for ball, brother.
Starting point is 02:05:26 Yeah, but their contract is, who the fuck are you? Who's paying you right now? Who's paying? Well, it's where I come for it. Does this guy even ref? No idea. I've never seen them.
Starting point is 02:05:36 I don't know. I would assume that's a prerequisite. I don't know. I don't know if it is. Don't. I don't think you've had to. a ref to beat that. It's an assumption. Yeah, Blanino didn't rest. And then he got
Starting point is 02:05:47 their review job. But he's good at it. Yeah. Whoever on? Did this guy ever refiff? He's a bit of a ghost. We were just digging back here. And he was a video replay official for a couple years, but I don't see any NFL on field. That's what I don't think this guy's ever
Starting point is 02:06:02 reffed. Like, whenever he popped up and he's talking, I'm like, who is this guy? He must be really good. And I'm listening. I'm like, who put this guy here? How this guy become the voice of ball? And one thing leads to another, and all of a sudden, I'm burying coworkers. There is a challenge coin available on eBay presented to a official replay official Mike Chase from Super Bowl LV. All right, let's buy that.
Starting point is 02:06:29 Challenge coin. Maybe we can get this gig being the ref consultant. Consultants. Atlanta's hired two of them. Already, huh. Okay. I'd like to sit in on some of those meetings, actually. They hire two consultants, and then they promote people. president to president and CEO who's already been there. So then we hire outside people to do stuff whenever the person that's been there is being promoted. I don't know. That doesn't sound,
Starting point is 02:06:53 that sounds, maybe the outside firms came in and were like, hey, this is really the only guy you got Beatles. Let's make him CEO and then if you can also make him GM and head coach, that'd probably be good. But don't worry about sporology and he's the RG will get to the bottom of it. Sporology. Go ahead and scroll through who they got. Not. Sure, a bunch of ball knollers. Yeah. He might be wrong, but, I mean, this site might be wrong, but it doesn't look like any
Starting point is 02:07:21 on-field. It just looks like one, two, three, four, five, six years as video replay. What year? What year were those? 19 to 24. That was right during the past interference one, which we all agreed was the worst time of the reviews. Yep. You'll get better.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Needs to. Hell yeah. Okay. Go to ball. For the good, a ball. It's a valuable spot, a very valuable spot that that person educates everybody watching the game. You're speaking for the sport.
Starting point is 02:07:53 The refs, too, white caps as well. Can't have them be an ass. But rules analysts definitely to... Mm-hmm. Let's get to a break. And I'm not rooting for anything. I'm rooting for fucking ball. Ball.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Maybe just put the other guy in there. Oh, yeah. Love that work. He's got the shirt on from game plays. after, you know, I watched that back a couple times. The one that he said was no good. Dead on. Hello.
Starting point is 02:08:19 A couple new angles. Yeah. Feels like that one might have missed. Exactly. In Utah, right? Yeah. Joe. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:08:27 If I recall. Yeah. No, I wasn't good. I'm telling you, I was right there. That thing was no good. Other side. Hey, Steve, how come everybody in here saying that it was good, including the one I was right fucking there?
Starting point is 02:08:40 Oh, stay in her right there. And did not go good. was not. Go ahead, Tom. Chase was also the Super Bowl replay official for the 2020 Super Bowl and the 2024 Super Bowl. That's where challenge
Starting point is 02:08:52 coins from. You can have it. We got this guy fresh out of the... Let's go back and check how he did. Doesn't look great. Or they have percentages on... No. Correct. Good luck, Chase.
Starting point is 02:09:07 They're a part of ball now in a big way. You're speaking for it. To a lot, to a lot of people. Let's make sure we're doing that properly. You get to. And we're thankful for you if you get it right. That's right.
Starting point is 02:09:23 If not, meritocracy. We need new. Football. He's the greatest. That's A.J. Hawk. The toxic tables here at Boston Conner and that Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys AP Ton is here.
Starting point is 02:09:40 Tone. on draft kings when 60% of the bets were on something this weekend how did the public fare you know because in the past we had been asked you know and the books had beat us and AJ I'd like to let you know we tied oh good yeah I needed a win though I needed a win and I'm not going to blame Jack Carr okay because I appreciate Jack Carr's contributions to United States of America and to society but I flip this coin right here
Starting point is 02:10:08 for that Seattle San Franke because I I've been on Seattle this entire time. And these axes, as if they were the 1849-49ers, that were looking for gold out there in California. Felt like that was the right play because Jack Carr's challenge coin told me as such. I will not hold this against Jack Carr, even though immediately after the game,
Starting point is 02:10:31 I said, fucking Jack Car. Because I got to remember Jack Car saved the world numerous times. Yeah, numerous times. And if it wasn't for us documenting it, nobody would have known that Jackcar saved the world numerous times. Most recently, UFO, out nowhere. Yeah, invasion. Yeah, that was crazy.
Starting point is 02:10:49 A bunch of aliens pop out of some portal over here. They're going to hit a kill switch for the entire planet. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Still can't believe our fucking butt was right here. Right out there. And our noses. I know.
Starting point is 02:11:02 I should, when I was buying a property, remember, we had to go to a council meeting and all this shit? Yeah, to rezone this. I feel like that should have been something that was talked about, right? Yeah, maybe disclosed? Yeah, disclosure. Like if someone dies in the house, aren't you supposed to disclose that? The realtor is supposed to?
Starting point is 02:11:16 Well, disclosure, we're talking about here. Uh-oh. Maybe we need a little bit more so that those situations don't happen because what if Jack Carr's not here? We're not ready. We're done. I had that alien killing gun?
Starting point is 02:11:26 Yeah, that I got off the internet. Sure. But I wouldn't have been able to use it. You might have got a couple of them. We'll send Bill out there. You wouldn't have got that big one. I don't know. When that big one turns and looks at Bill,
Starting point is 02:11:37 I think Bill is now. reaction because it would be any human not jack car any human's natural reaction would be to kind of run quiver a little bit run away from the sack car actually cracking jokes looks like that this one stopped on the way in yeah exactly geez boom bang pal boom boom boom right in the head right in the cold burn right in the dick exposed all those i think so jack car's challenge coin obviously not great to us jack car as a whole though good for society so we tie seven three feels like we did well though Hey, we should be pretty proud of what we did here. And congrats to you on winning the season, buddy.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Congrats you. Yeah. You have a prestigious award that I know you'll be proud of. Congratulations, you actually win these. Wow, no way. Because you saw it so well. This is what you win. What about the playoffs?
Starting point is 02:12:27 So. Oh, interesting. Put this is done. It's not over you. Hold the phone. These might stay here. You know, I love that these are here. I already picture myself wearing those things.
Starting point is 02:12:38 I already, in my mind, those are already mine. No, I've already thought about it as well. I'm bummed out, but... Those are sea biscuits, by the way. If I want to fly an open-air airplane or something. Those are jockey goggles. These are Brian Hernandez Jr.'s goggles. Okay? Everybody knows Brock.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Everybody knows Brock and Rodden. That's what they say about Brian. Brian Hernandez Jr. right here. Okay. These are his. Okay. He could see it better than anybody else. That's why he had these goggles.
Starting point is 02:13:05 There's little layers that he used to just peel off. He's the one that actually invented the windshield wiper thing that they do. So whenever we give you these, it means you're seeing the field better and everybody else, which is what you would be doing if you were to win that strap, this strap this year. But it turns out, I still got a few weeks to save this. That's right. Yes, you do. Brock and ride, but boy, seeing it's not easy this year.
Starting point is 02:13:27 No, it's not. Whoever wins this this year is going to earn it through great picks and great vision of the future. And that's what this represents, age. So if this ends up in your little bookshelf room up there in your attic, you should take great pride and know that I will miss it mightily. You ever put those on? No, because it would be disrespectful to Brian, the rider, Fernandez. Someone should put them on and see what they look at it.
Starting point is 02:13:49 It might be a sign. Hmm? It's only one. Of what? Can we put the teams up there to playoff teams? Uh-huh. I think there only one. Oh, I see what you're doing.
Starting point is 02:13:58 That's a horse. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's not on this track. Actually, they're not even on there. Because they're one seat. You're talking about Denver Broncos. what about the you think bry the rider
Starting point is 02:14:08 Hernandez Jr. said that they don't wear it at fucking rodeo Bride of rider yeah I mean it would obviously the Colts didn't make it so boy they've been bucking us off
Starting point is 02:14:19 the fucking game the whole time haven't they I mean we've been going bare back on that thing with Spurs get on this horse every season
Starting point is 02:14:27 this year oh oh oh wait we're number one bang bang bang it boom seven straight yeah seven straight loss.
Starting point is 02:14:36 That was a very accurate representation of the season. I'm part of the Montana State Radio team. Remember? Oh, yeah. Did you wrestle that bowl? Didn't you wrestle that bull down? Did you, is it true that you?
Starting point is 02:14:49 You asked the people, hey, I don't want to hurt this 9,000 pound animal. Are you sure I can really torque them like you tell me to? Are you asking, is it true as if what you're going for? I heard rumors.
Starting point is 02:15:03 You might have asked that, yeah. Yeah, did I tell you that particular rumor one time? I think you told everybody that rumor. Is it an acknowledgement of being an asshole? Just because they had me. I'm going to break his neck, though, right? I don't know if I won't break his neck. I don't want to hurt the calf, you know.
Starting point is 02:15:17 It's a valid question, though. I think it's a valid question. Boom, put it down, by the way. That thing late. Hey, that thing late leaner there. But yeah, I certainly had to ask. Like, this looks like I'm hurting the cat. People are going to be really pissed.
Starting point is 02:15:32 You're going to hurt this thing? Let me go tell this thing. that year ago, 10,000 pounds, things got horns. What I'm asking you to do is not get in front of this thing, so it doesn't kill you. You think you are going to hurt this particular? Well, I guess it was a dumb question. Yeah, it was a dumb question. Thanks.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Next one. Rodeos in town this weekend. I'll tell you what, if I was to go, it wouldn't be my first. No, it wouldn't. But it won't be my last two. These little fucking bull riders, they get in there. Oh, yeah. Incredible.
Starting point is 02:15:58 Yeah. Yeah, they wear helmets now. They got nothing to be afraid of. Okay. All wear helmets are like themselves? golf? That's what Ty said, yeah. Yeah, he forgot about that. Oh, on that note,
Starting point is 02:16:10 now I don't know what's going on on Bull Riders. I hope they survive. Yeah, me neither. Because these bulls are fucking bucking better than they've ever bucked in the PBRs, obviously, worthy of a watch if it's on in between other stuff. Speaking of, like, they got helmets on now. So you know, the wild and wonderful Wondola, Wondolas?
Starting point is 02:16:26 Yeah. The Wendlandus? No nets. Throughout the entire time, they have been the family that has done death-defying stunts. for the entire country to watch live. We're very thankful for them. They're the original, you know, jackass. They're the original crazy folks to do stuff.
Starting point is 02:16:42 And it was good entertainment. I think their entire family committed to it. And then it became like, hey, worst thing that could happen here is we're bungee jumping over Niagara Falls, you know, because they're like kind of locked in. And I, as just mere moral idiot, saw the worst thing that could happen there is bungee jumping over Niagara Falls. That actually sounds pretty sick.
Starting point is 02:17:01 you know, it would check the box just one time. So I think because of how much we learned about how much the Wondolas... The Wollanda's could actually die. Like, obviously, that particular form of entertainment got dumbed down on a linear television version because we'd be watching the internet and people would be doing, like, actual should die stuff.
Starting point is 02:17:22 And we'd, like, see it. It's like, wow, I can't believe it's... But TV, I think laws and injuries and insurance and everything got too big where we couldn't really have something that could really go for it anymore. Really did feel like that was a lost entertainment because they tried it a couple times.
Starting point is 02:17:37 We're walking across this, we're walking across this, and then you watch it, and it's them not really being entertaining, and everybody, it's hard to just buy into the not actually die. Morbid, but that's what we're selling here is death-defying act and stunt. That's what we're watching. This Alec Connell thing he's about to do? Yes. They're saying he's fucking...
Starting point is 02:17:58 Yeah, nothing. Free solo. He's free solo climbing a... building, a very tall one in Taiwan, I think. In Taiwan, live. Live. Live. Yeah. Live. So if we see him fall, though, you won't, you'll just see him fall
Starting point is 02:18:11 and they won't show him like hitting the ground. No, you have to find out on the internet. Correct. Yeah. So that's all. It'll be very jarring. It will be terrible, but I have faith that he's going to make it. I have faith he's going to make it. And hopefully out of camera view, they'll have a net down there that'll catch him. Nope. That would make sense.
Starting point is 02:18:27 It's got to be a pretty tough. Pretty strong man. the 10th or the fifth story or whatever. Brother, they got nets outside of buildings. I don't know if you heard about people working until they didn't want to work anymore, okay? They figured that whole thing out. But I'm saying I didn't think I would be alive again for an actual death stunt happening on TV or happening promotional. Let's see it. I don't think Honnold's signing up for anything other than that.
Starting point is 02:18:51 It is. Even if there is a net, though. Think if you're that high up and you do fall with how much wind, you're going to get blasted back into the building. you're not going to make it to the net. What was that thing called Free Solo? This is Doc, right? Yes. I mean, palms are sweaty watching the documentary.
Starting point is 02:19:06 Oh, yeah. I mean, like, actual, if this is real, which it seems like it's going to be, I mean, that's going to be a jarring, like, we don't get a lot of that anymore. I don't think, I don't think there's, I don't know how many of those are going to exist going forward, honestly. Fucking shout to Honnold, dude. What a maniac. Yeah, lunatic.
Starting point is 02:19:23 I was at that, what was at Disney's Upfronts to announce our show is being licensed. by Disney and ESPN, and he was the only guy I really fanboyed about it. I was walking by. Holy fuck. You're the, uh, Alex, Alex, Alec, yep, nice to meet you. Oh, I love you, man. He said he knows the show. He watched it on the internet.
Starting point is 02:19:45 I'm like, don't need to hear that. It means you saw a clip of us talking about you. What we did say about you, though, how we all feel. He's different, man. Literally. He is. He's been on, right? I think we've had him on.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Yeah. He's got a kid now. Yeah, he's family. Yeah. Full-blown family. I wonder if that changed your mindset. I think she's similar. I don't know if she's like a rock climber,
Starting point is 02:20:05 but she's some sort of... I think she understands this person just doesn't have like the fear. Yeah, she is also a rock climber, but she does use ropes. She's not a free solo or like Honnold. Because she was in the... They were just dating at the time
Starting point is 02:20:20 in the free solo doc living in his van, and she went with him to El Capiton. Do you imagine if she was just an accountant? Yeah, she couldn't be. I don't think that would. I think you're marrying someone like this if you don't have similar interests. This is such an interesting thing because this documentary is so, so old. So we're just assuming everybody has seen it.
Starting point is 02:20:37 If you have not seen it, worthy of a watch that this human exists. Like the fact that this human exists out here in our world that we're in, we're talking about living in the woods, taking months of his life to just look at a rock to see how we could climb it with no ropes. And then every single fingertip could be the end of it. It's great. And just not even really considering the outlet. that is certainly right around the corner every single movement.
Starting point is 02:21:02 And then there was another doc about a Canadian fellow. Mark Andre Leclair. Yeah, he was an ice climb. He's free solo ice climber at the tip of mountains. So like at the very top of mountains, you've got to hike up to the tallest mountains. And then at the top of them, there's just ice, I guess, on the capsules. You know, when you draw a mountain, the top of it normally has like a little white thing. Those are just, he's just climbing out with no ropes.
Starting point is 02:21:25 And the documentaries came out pretty close to each other. each other. And when we're watching the one or the other, I think... In Mark Andres. In Mark Andres. Yeah. Honnold is interviewed, yeah. Yeah, he said he looked over. They were like climbing two things and they like looked over and it was like each other basically seeing each other. And it's like those two are considered the two
Starting point is 02:21:41 best of all time. And it's like the fact that they're doing it. Yeah, here's the Alpinist is the name of this one. Worthy of a watch. Worthy, now that football is slowing down. We got no Monday night football tonight. Okay. So you're going to hear a lot of these types of conversations from us as AJ's connection is unstable. He might have been dangling, you know. He might have been traveling out there.
Starting point is 02:22:01 This guy didn't make it. I didn't hear if I cut out, but I know this gentleman didn't make it, right? Yeah, he ended up passing away. Honnold actually talks about it too in the alpinist about how, like, people would know where Honnold is going. Like, he has a girlfriend. He would notify people. Like that Lecler guy would just disappear and go climb, go climb mountains because he wanted
Starting point is 02:22:20 to, not because he wanted anyone to know he was doing it. No pictures, no videos of a lot of them. Yeah. So literally just coming back, hey, I think. climbed that. Just been a while of it. Okay. Can we see it?
Starting point is 02:22:29 Yeah, really game. Just love of the game. Legit. That Honnold thing, if they're really doing that, I kind of looked into it this weekend just because I didn't think it would be possible in this modern era that we're in to be able to do that. That's gigantic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:42 The numbers on that are going to be outrageous. This dude's like actual Spider-Man. He's like actual Spider-Man. He's climbing a face of a fucking rock that has, like, tiny crevices. And he's thousands of feet in the air. And he's just sitting there like, and they have a shot somehow because of other rock climbers
Starting point is 02:22:59 that is just like right on top of them basically zoomed out with a fish high lens and it's just like death just because of his little tiny little fingers like this and you said he like looks at what other like recon is it on like how the
Starting point is 02:23:15 he knows his path he knows his whole path going up before he knows like the different paths and all that stuff Capiton right was what it was called yeah Capiton who's never been climbed free solo so they documented him
Starting point is 02:23:27 because he didn't like a lot of a shit being documented so they documented him climbing something that these climbers said was impossible to climb Free Solo so he did it and it's literally like people have ropes and shit that they put into these so they'll put like something in between cracks and then that'll hold them and then if you fall you know you have something and then you
Starting point is 02:23:43 spin and then you hit it it's like this this dude is nothing nothing on it just a thing in the back that's like chalk or whatever chalk yeah here we go and just like a little kid on like a monkey bar insane like fucking 2,000 however many thousand feet above sky that's crazy it's insane to watch how they you know there's i don't know if it's another dock or like an hour youtube thing they talked about
Starting point is 02:24:06 filming him when he was free-souling the guys that climbed around him and filmed him and all of that like that alone is a great watch if you want to see it too when they talk about like it was real like hey what if he falls and dies we're going to be documenting this dude's death like do we put this out like it's pretty cool there's a there's you know i don't know how many of these humans exist, but there's some X-Games humans that just exist out there, like those squirrel suit wears? Yeah. The base jumpers,
Starting point is 02:24:33 there's a base jumper documentary on YouTube is called 60 Seconds to Hell, and actually the main character in the end, that's what happens. Like, they pass away. And it is insane. Is that the one where like six of them out of the eight of them? I think so. Yeah, I've seen that. Could they hit a mountain? Yeah, everything, yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:49 One of the ladies that they follow is like, hey, when you get into this, you know like one of my best friends is going to die because we're base jumpers. This is what happens. And then throughout the, at the end of the dock, like one of the main characters in it. How about committing full life to it? It's crazy. That's crazy. That is.
Starting point is 02:25:06 That's an incredible commitment. Arnold, good luck. Yeah, good luck. We're going to get him, Honorable. I'm watching. I'll watch. Me too. Yeah. Me too. And I'm going to have the sway. I'm going to come on.
Starting point is 02:25:15 I don't know if I'll be able to. Even just talking about the Free Solo doc and seeing that photo makes me. I got really uncomfortable watching the Free Solo. He's not going to fall. He's too good. Yeah, if there's any... Can we show that?
Starting point is 02:25:30 So... I mean, there's a lot of stuff, right? For him to grab, it looks like? Listen to me. Listen to me. That's real. I wonder how... Imagine how windy it is, too, up there.
Starting point is 02:25:42 I wonder how climbers feel about it. Like, I wonder if they're like, it's a building. It's going to be pretty easy. For him. For him, yeah. Or if it's, like, more so, uh, yeah, I don't know what the hell he's going to grow. Hold on. buildings out there that you can see but I don't know if they're this high yeah for sure but
Starting point is 02:25:57 they're usually with like wiring and stuff you know like that's the cabling so him just not being cabled up I assume that they're oh I don't know but looking at it yeah it's hard to tell how it goes back you know how you go up and then it's like the overhang it looks like they have the whole climb like you're that's even tougher yeah and how long is it going to take it starts at 8 p.m. Eastern at least isn't that going to take and what if the weather's terrible what Is it say, like, contingent on weather? I would assume if it's horrible weather. He's not going to climb on this.
Starting point is 02:26:28 Pastrano was going to jump in Vegas and it was windy and I think they delayed it or something. It's definitely contingent around weather because in the free solo dog too, El Capitani is supposed to climb it one day and they wake up and it's like raining and they have to push it. Yeah, I think there was clouds too, potentially in something that they change off. Because they watch the Doppler, like those pro, even Leclair, like they watch the Doppler just to make sure you can't get caught in the rain while you're halfway up. No ropes.
Starting point is 02:26:51 Good luck, Alec. Good luck. How many of those are walking around Just with no sense of fear? T.C. Yep, yeah. At least two. I guess Tom, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:01 Tom and Alex. Oh, Ian, rap sheet. Remember, he said he's not scared of anything? Blake Groupie. He did a pencil on the, he did a pencil on the bungee jump. Rap report did. Remember he said he penciled into his bungee jump,
Starting point is 02:27:16 feet first? Oh, yeah, and then it flipped him at the end. He got a whiplash at the bottom. Yeah, I do remember that. I'm not scared, yeah. now it's all coming back to me. Rap sheet, Tom Cruise, Alec Arnold. Who else was mentioned there?
Starting point is 02:27:29 Blake Groupie. I mean, he'll summary it into anything. I'm telling him, we've been saying that for a few weeks. That might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL. I mean, it is, for real. It is unbelievable. What are his dims? Do you know his dims?
Starting point is 02:27:43 5-5-110? Hey, he can kick for my team any day if he's going to do that. Hey, man, I legitimately feel that. This isn't the first time he has done this. He has done this before. where he's just full send full fucking send on a football field I respect it so much
Starting point is 02:27:58 it's so awesome legit what's he even doing that close to yeah he's down in there yeah he's down in there yeah I love it what if he'd knock that ball out though his helmet almost got that ball exactly that's what I said so I respect it Blake we need more Blake nowhere near the size of him
Starting point is 02:28:14 we're good with the size we got this one figured out he had a 60 yarder so it doesn't hold him back at all but like the fool and he's he's got moxie too I mean, he is a showman out there. I mean, he is, I respect the way Blake Group he operates and, yeah, this is
Starting point is 02:28:30 the only thing it needs to be said is what I tweeted immediately. Hey, nothing else needs to be said about him. They were saying some stuff about him on the internet. It's ridiculous. I don't like it. Uncalled for. Fernando Mendoza said he understood it, though. The internet's always undefeated. Speaking of the internet, felt like everybody was positive
Starting point is 02:28:44 about a commentator when he needs to show love. Mike Tariko. Hell yeah. Good call, lad. Great call. Good call. I think people were pumped up about what Mike Tarrico was doing last night, and it felt like Mike Tarrico was just living in the game.
Starting point is 02:28:57 Like, hey, I'm in the game. Understood what was on the line. Understood what the futures were, potentially for both franchises, depending upon the outcome, and had his most juice whenever it mattered the most. I thought it was a, I don't know what they call it, a perfect game. I don't know how you go about doing it. But I appreciate Tariko a lot for what he did
Starting point is 02:29:15 last night during that game. Made a great game even better, which is what we're looking for, age. That's what the great broadcasters do, right? just add to the aura of the excitement of a game. Tarrico's been awesome for, what, 30, 40 years? Like, everything the guy does. Like, he is awesome. I think he's one of the best there is.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Super smooth in everything he does. And then it has the ability to be able to read the room and bring the juice. And it's like whenever he does his interview with Chris Collinsworth at the beginning of the game, whenever he throws it over to him and says, you know, this team likes to blah, blah, blah. Feels like he's genuinely listening as opposed to just getting through it, what's happening because that probably is scripted and rehearsed. But it feels like Tariko actually listening, like actually present, actually in the moment whenever he's calling it.
Starting point is 02:29:56 And have that type of confidence obviously comes from working on it a lot, but also having like a natural chops that not a lot of people have. He can call anything. Duke can host anything. He can call anything. And his addition back into the NFL's primetime booth, whenever Al Michael's moved to Amazon and he gets Sunday night football, has been a blessing for ball, an absolute blessing for ball. Best in game. Absolutely. Still got his fastball, just the way he sets up moments.
Starting point is 02:30:20 then, you know, obviously knows when they'll lay out, like a true, true pro. Best in the biz. Yeah, I appreciate what they did last night. I did. Yeah. We sent him a text. I sent him a text. I told him, congratulations.
Starting point is 02:30:30 He didn't have a number saved. Mike Trico football. Sent him a group shot of us here saying great job. And he was all pumped up. He said, great job with Fernando. Okay. So, okay. Nice.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Watch the program. Always studying. Hell yeah. I assume he just has all, everything is kind of. Yeah. Knowledge. Yeah, because he's got to do world events. He's got to do Olympic stuff.
Starting point is 02:30:49 Doing NBA, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, because he's interviewing Jordan. Which is great. I mean, he is. Well, interview. He interviewed Jordan. Relax. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:56 Hey, that was a good play by them. Every Sunday, right? They fucking got us, didn't they? Oh, I think he was there for Christmas. Well, I don't know. Shit. They ran the video probably in the house. Is that still going?
Starting point is 02:31:07 Are we, is that still going? I'm not so sure. Live stream starting soon here with Carly Earth. I was supposed to go off at 2.30. It's 246 right now. Did I forget about it until this moment? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Yeah, I'd say, yeah. Maybe they said, fuck it. Let's fire them, actually. I mean, maybe Carly saw some names pop up and go, Kevin Stefanski, Indianapolis? Wait a minute. Wait, this team came from Baltimore, didn't it? Yeah. Harbaugh's available?
Starting point is 02:31:31 Oh. Oh. Maybe we'll bring him John Harbaugh lead to squad. Is John Eric Sullivan available? Oh, maybe we need John Eric Sullivan. True. Hey, Ty's been doing some research on the GM department, mostly because allegedly a Packer guy's about to go, right? I mean, that is...
Starting point is 02:31:47 Yeah, John Eric Sullivan, who has been with the Packer. I believe he was there the entire time you were there as well, AJ. He is currently the VP of player personnel, and he actually got several GM interviews last year. Didn't get any, but his name is very hot right now in the prospective GM candidates. If you talk about Packers' front office people. Exactly. Elliot Wolfe, who, I mean, I don't know what his actual title is with the
Starting point is 02:32:13 pseudo-GM. He comes from the Packers. His dad, Ron Wolf was the one who traded for Brett Farv. And Schneider, he wasn't the GM, but he was McCarthy's top aide when he was there and then did other things for the front office. So, like, they have a long line of these kind of guys whose names we don't know who end up going on and getting GM roles or other big roles in front offices elsewhere. AJ, do you think that's because the Packers don't have owners and owner, so all these other roles have to pick up maybe some other jobs as well? You know, does that make sense? Like, do some of these personnel people come a little bit better equipped for the general manager?
Starting point is 02:32:50 job? Is that why they get plucked at a more often rate than maybe other places? Or is it because the stability that they've been able to have for so long? What are your thoughts on why Green Bay Packers personnel people seemingly do a great job whenever they get the opportunity to run an organization? Yeah, I don't know. They do a good job. A lot of it goes back like 20 years. Like John Eric Sullivan, too. He's a dude. He's a dude. He's a dude. He should get it be a GM eventually. I'm sure you might get one this hiring cycle. It sounds like. But yeah, I don't know. They have like a good, you know, when you go to training camp, did all of your scouts come back and hang out, like, during camp and watch, like, all your regional and scouts that usually live, like, the guy who lives in Houston comes up.
Starting point is 02:33:26 Like, they're all there in the first 10, 12, 15 days of camp. That's when I would, like, realize how good they were. All of them would come around. That's when we'd see them all together. And you, like, you realize they weren't pretty good hands. These guys know ball. They know what they're doing. They know what to look for.
Starting point is 02:33:40 And they were, like, real humans. Like, I always respected them. I always enjoyed being around them. Yeah, they're road warriors out there, the scouts, whenever they're kind of cut their teeth in. the NFL personnel department. Why do you think Packers people have been good? Like what John did up there in Seattle? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:56 Crazy. Insane. Think about the amount of like shit you have to take to make the decisions that he made. First of all, we're moving on from Russ. Yeah, get him out of here. Oh, that's cute. Pete Carroll, that's fun.
Starting point is 02:34:10 Moving on from him. Both beloved in Seattle. So you're going to make a decision that is going to piss a lot of people off. You're sitting in a chair where decisions have to be made and you're going to make a hard decision and there's going to be a lot of people pissed it's going to be emotional
Starting point is 02:34:22 and even you might not want to do it but you know it's the right move for him to sit in that pocket probably sweat his pits whenever he was making those decisions I assume he was just sweat oh man the ass I couldn't even imagine
Starting point is 02:34:36 I mean all of it I assume as he's doing that but to sit in the pocket and make those decisions for the good of the program for the good of the program it's like that is a trait that not a lot of people have
Starting point is 02:34:46 even people that sit in chairs that decisions have to be made. Like, I think there's a lot of people scared to make decisions that'll piss somebody off or piss people off. I think their shins don't want it, especially with the rapid reaction that you currently have right now with how loud social media is and how much everybody knows about everything.
Starting point is 02:35:01 It feels like making a decision that's going to piss off a lot of people scares a lot of people and decision makers and are making tough decisions. So I think they're cowards whenever they send it to out of the building, for instance, or pass it the buck or don't make the decisions. Like, it's like, hey, you're supposed to be doing that,
Starting point is 02:35:17 do that. And it's like for him to do that in Seattle, with how a lot of God. Their stadium was getting taken over. Yeah. Okay, their fans were not happy with him. He was still there. He was the constant. So for him to go through it, make the right decisions and have it on it. It's like, God damn. That is. It comes from Ted Thompson.
Starting point is 02:35:33 I think a lot of it comes from Ted Thompson, RIP. He was a great GM for Green Bay the Green Bay Packers. And also like such a unique human to where I promise you, like Ted Thompson, he was not bothered by outside noise, by the media, by any of that. All he cared about was like, what do I have to do to give these coaches the best players and give them a chance to win a Super Bowl?
Starting point is 02:35:52 Like, that's all Ted Thompson cared about. And I think a lot of these guys worked under Ted. So I think they definitely learned at a young age. Like, yeah, you got to do whatever you think is right for the team, not what, you know, some blogger or what someone outside of this building thinks. Like, you know, the team better than anybody. It can get loud, though, do you know. Oh, yeah. But it's like a real, real, you know, culture over there and some other place, too.
Starting point is 02:36:12 Like, you have that real culture. You have that real communication from the top down and, like, stability. So when you come from a place like that, typically when you go somewhere else, you know how to build a team, you know how to have patience, you know how to have your, you know, whatever your belief system in, hey, we're a draft and develop type team. We don't do a ton of free agency, but we'll do a little bit more. And then as the game evolves, you got to be able to evolve too. So just like when you go on from a great place from your coaching tree, you got to hire the right people around you. And shit, you got to get lucky with some of the players that you go out there and draft and they actually show up and, you know, outperform probably your draft. You know, you draft the guy, Richard Sherman in the fifth round,
Starting point is 02:36:48 and he goes on, you know, Russell Wilson in the third round, and he goes on to be what he was. So it's a combination of it all, I think. Yeah, and I think the culture being all the way back instilled with McDonald who might win coach of the year, whatever, it's like, well, that's the next 20 years. At least. I will see.
Starting point is 02:37:08 Whoa. I mean, just going to fucking crown them because they got a buy week. I think so. All right. I think I am. He's calling plays. McDonald's calling the defense. And they're one, one, two, one, one, whatever it is with Houston being the two, two, one,
Starting point is 02:37:25 whatever it is on the other side of it. So we always talk about it with offensive coordinators about how we got the play caller for whatever. It's like their defense has got the, they got the defensive play caller, like, and they got the defense that's going to be able to keep them in every game. And if Sam Donald's going to do what Sam Donald's going to do, it's like, are they going to be able to keep up offense coordinator-wise? because all the offense coordinator is probably going to get head coaching gigs, if I had a guess. Well, and you have to give, you know, tip your hat to him for that, too,
Starting point is 02:37:51 because, like, last year they weren't terrible, but after a year, he was like, Ryan Grub's not the guy, like, get his ass out of here. We're going to fire him, bring in Clint Kubiak, and we see how much things change. So, like, he's got a track record already of kind of having his finger on the pulse there and knowing, like, hey, you know, we're not terrible, but, like, we need to get better. And, D.K., like, D.K. McCaff, see you later. Gino see you later Pete Carroll two years ago
Starting point is 02:38:15 Lock it Lock it Yeah well long in the tooth lock it But still Same same thing Like think about the amount of Superstar and like legendary guys That he basically was like
Starting point is 02:38:27 Nope Like we can do better And then actually going and doing That much better Like it's incredible And I guess they did not paint over all the walls Okay so that's the way it was obviously blown out of proportion By us
Starting point is 02:38:39 But it's what we were told Okay so we're only going to done by what we were told. Yeah, congrats to the Seattle Seahawks. Same style, too, of when they, you know, going to the run of Russ, like great defense, good run game, now you just need a quarterback. It's not going to fuck it up.
Starting point is 02:38:54 And? We'll see if Sam was that guy. Yeah, TBD. I'll tell you what, that was a big game. Big game. Big game. He did. He did in a big game.
Starting point is 02:39:04 A couple big moments. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. 14.
Starting point is 02:39:13 Back to back here. 13 points. 13 points against all you need it. Oh. You just said he just didn't need to fuck it up. That's what I say. It's all you need it. He's dead.
Starting point is 02:39:23 Not is that going to get it done in the playoffs? He did. Untackle about that guy, Sharbon. Are they last and past attempts? They were second to last. Oh. He did. Go on, Sam.
Starting point is 02:39:40 Hell yes. Even when he does it, they say he didn't. Yeah. But he did. It's unbelievable. Good for them. I'm proud of them. All right, let's get to some overreact.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Oh, wait, wait, wait. Speaking of overreactions, you know, Seattle Seahawks have a lot of big time famous fans. We have a friend of the program who is a diehard Seattle Seahawks fan. He has been super jacked up about the Seahawks team. Literally every single, ever since they hired McDonald, I think. Now, he's going to argue that he's been a fan his entire life. I just became of an age where I can meet these people. Yeah, that, you know, gets into this entire.
Starting point is 02:40:12 But there is a man who's a comedian who's also an impersonator and an impressionist and a guy who's going to be one of the biggest stars probably on Earth over the next 10 years or so, who is a diehard Seattle Seahawk fan. I asked him yesterday, send me a one-minute video, selfie video, okay, kind of just explaining this particular Seattle Seahawks team from his perspective and why he thinks they're great. This is what we got back in return. Hey, thanks, Pat.
Starting point is 02:40:36 Look, when you asked me to make a video about Coach Mike McDonald, I immediately said yes. The only challenge is going to be keeping it short. I mean, we're not talking about me in the bedroom. We're talking about the coach of the Seattle Seahawks, Mike McDee. I have an internal power rankings of the most important people in my life, and it's amazing how quickly he's passed most of my closest friends and relatives. I mean, my stepdad bought me a laptop when he proposed to my mom in 2003.
Starting point is 02:41:01 Welcome back to Who Gives his shit, because my new number one is Mike McDonald. Now, it's pretty fucking obvious that he should win coach of the year, but I'm biased. So I decided to reach out to some of his main competition and get their perspective. Here's what Mike Vrable had to say. Coach of the year? Yeah, that's got to be Mike McDonald. Anyone voting for me has to be insane.
Starting point is 02:41:21 Drake May is doing all the work. Without him bowling out of QB, I'd be the defensive coordinator at the University of Phoenix Online. Too soon? Wow, thanks, Mike Vrable. I wonder what Coach Ben Johnson has to say. Well, the thing that makes Coach McDonald better than me is the level of competition.
Starting point is 02:41:37 I mean, this guy went 14 and 3. in the toughest division in football, and I barely won the Central against Jordan Love and Carson wins. Not to mention the point differential. He's over there winning blowouts, and I'm scraping by. We only beat the Giants by four points.
Starting point is 02:41:54 Four points. I'm lucky I wasn't fired for that. Wow, those guys really know what's up. And I agree. Coach McDonald is obviously a football genius, but I've got to know him personally this past year, and I've got to say, he's a great guy. Beyond the X's and O's, he genuinely loves his players, and they love him,
Starting point is 02:42:11 and they want to play their asses off for him and for the city. That's why he's been so successful, and led us to a franchise best 14 and 3 record this year. And on top of all that, I mean, come on, the dude is handsome as fuck. Mike McDonald looks like the mad teacher your mom emails nudes to. And now there's just one thing left to do, win that fucking Super Bowl, baby. This is our year. Pat, I can feel it. I can feel it in my bones.
Starting point is 02:42:34 It could be the edible talking, but with Sammy Darnold, slinging the rock JSN going deep and the defense laying everybody out this is our year isn't that right coach Adam
Starting point is 02:42:44 I thought you said this whole thing was going to be for your charity oh no I said for Maccalfee for the for the Pat McAfee show
Starting point is 02:42:52 oh dude are you even wearing pants right now I mean what the heck do you wish no I'm not it's a bye week
Starting point is 02:43:04 back doing the studio pat yeah yeah thanks adam on edited that's how it arrived yeah oh that age that is how that video arrived really yes unbelievable the impressions i'm excited to hear fable's thoughts if he if he gets it to him ben jonson he killed he can't johnson as well all right we appreciate you i think we could say macdonald was on a show yeah yeah yeah oh yeah mcdonald great actor obviously yeah what do you mean In the video, with Adam Ray. He's doing a little gimmick with Adam.
Starting point is 02:43:39 Let's get to some overreactions. You're acting right now, acting like he was acting, and that was not a candid call. Please. Acting like a douche. AJ's. Yeah. Yeah, not Coach McDonald.
Starting point is 02:43:51 What if Adam Ray would have stood up just meat out at the very end of that? With Coach McDonald on the call. I still have yet to see the final second there. We cut that off at two seconds after he said it. Oh, man. He doesn't know, bring him on their shoes, too. Well, he does have a pair of hallies over there, got him before they were released. It's a very kind of Connor to give his, because he wears the same size.
Starting point is 02:44:10 You see, he has Adam Ray. He gave up his hallies to him. That was very interesting. I got a shot to Adam Ray. Sounds like it. What's that? Sure sounds interesting. Connor didn't think he was going to say yes.
Starting point is 02:44:20 Connor didn't think he was going to say yes. Hey, you need help with anything? Oh, you need help moving? Yeah. What day? Today. I can't. No.
Starting point is 02:44:28 Yeah, today. Fuck. Yeah. Actually, you're coming. Shit. Hey, man. You want, your shoes are nice, you want them? You want the rest of my sandwich?
Starting point is 02:44:36 Yeah, I do, actually. But I'm still kind of hungry. Yeah, but I'm going to take it. Okay. You offered, though, right? Yes, I did. Yes, he did. Yes, I did.
Starting point is 02:44:46 And Adam Ray should have taken him. I'm sitting it, I'm putting myself in Adam Ray's position on the way out. It's been a great day. Great day. Great juice of Adam Ray. Yeah, hysterical. And sweets appearance as well. Energy is outrageous.
Starting point is 02:45:00 I mean, energy was outright. Yes, in a suite. Yeah. I mean, Awesome. Energy is outrageous out of Adam Ray. It was great. On the way out,
Starting point is 02:45:07 we had just gotten Tyrese Halliburton's new shoes. Shout to the Hallies, by the way. Shout out. I think they're available now. I think they're available now. We've got a couple pairs of those, and we're all opening them up.
Starting point is 02:45:17 And it was a classic, hey, you wear my size. That's really cool. And Connor goes, do you want them? Yeah. And Adam just immediately, yeah. Yeah, give me those.
Starting point is 02:45:26 Close the box, walked out of here. He's gone. To a plane. To a plane. He's not going home. Gone, gone, gone. I mean, he's out of him. here and he's got the Halleys and
Starting point is 02:45:34 I thought it was a really cool moment by Connor. I was like, that's really nice of you to do that. And then Connor goes, you thought he was going to fucking say yes and take those? And he, ladies and gentlemen, we have a press conference that has just started right now and Adam Ray has a pair of Halleys
Starting point is 02:45:51 and Carly is speaking about the Colts. Loyalty and support as always but particularly this season. You're right to be frustrated with how the latter part of our season went. I'm pissed. We are all pissed. Every season is unique, and this season really was a tale of two seasons and one.
Starting point is 02:46:15 We were all encouraged by our first half. We experienced a lot of progress, which gives us optimism for the future and the direction we are heading as a team. Then adversity struck. But no matter what the circumstances are, we have to be able to find a way to win and finish games. Even though we didn't get the results we expected, I'm confident in what we're building and how we're building it. So with that said, Chris will continue as our general manager and Shane will continue as our head coach for this next season. We have been very clear with Chris and Shane that giving them another opportunity
Starting point is 02:47:07 means that the sense of urgency for them to deliver and perform has never been higher. Okay. Chris and Shane are both capable of facing this challenge head on and finding a way to achieve the results that our fans deserve,
Starting point is 02:47:26 which is winning games. Okay. Getting to the postseason and ultimately winning championships. Ultimately, though, I am responsible for our team's performance and the promise that we made to be the best. Our extremely disappointing second half of the season wasn't up to our standard, and that falls on me. At the same time, there were moments during the season that gave me reason to believe that we can achieve sustained success. under Chris and Shane's leadership. Good design is never done.
Starting point is 02:48:05 And as with every offseason, we will work diligently to improve and find a way to win. You guys, I will take questions now. Okay. All right, Carly. Let's go. All right, Carly. The pressure to perform is high right now on Chris and Shane.
Starting point is 02:48:23 Basically, she said, they know this is the last year. You either win or you don't. So we've already kind of went all in, trading two number ones for a player. We don't have a quarterback signed officially other than Riley Leonard and AR. Okay, maybe AR comes back healthier than ever and does his thing.
Starting point is 02:48:38 Jonathan Taylor's probably going to want a new contract if I had to guess. Similar situation, though, don't make the playoffs. And he's going to be demanding money. So that's going to be fun to go through. Michael Pittman, dog, need him. Alec Pierce, dog, need him.
Starting point is 02:48:54 I mean, there's a lot of decisions that have to be made and a lot of money that has to be paid. and we don't have ones but I appreciate the fact that Carly did say hey this is fucking it urgency's never been higher now Ty and Connor did make some noises while announcements were being made there
Starting point is 02:49:11 from Miss Carly orsay Gordon that leaky air-conditioned unit was pissing me off that's what I was so freaking mad Connor followed up even now after she was really getting into the meat of it all just couldn't handle it I think a lot of Colts fans no matter what
Starting point is 02:49:27 she said there, we're going to be like, okay. But I do appreciate the fact that she did say, like, hey, they know that this is it. Now, granted, maybe one year under their belt, half a year, whatever, as owners, maybe they feel like right now is not a time yet for us to do a full overhaul. Okay, that's a lot of decisions that are going to have to get made. That's a lot of hiring. That's going to have to happen after the firing. Are we equipped in the position to be able to do that right now? Then people immediately go, well, you have to be. That's kind of the way it is. it's like, weighing all these options,
Starting point is 02:49:57 I have no idea. I have no idea how they get to it. But boy, there was a lot of Colts fans hoping for something different, I think, next year. Because different brings, like, optimism, naturally.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Yep. Natural optimism is just going to fall into place. Doesn't even matter who you hire. There's just a natural thought that something's going to be different next year as opposed to the last nine years. You know, like that's what people are going to think.
Starting point is 02:50:18 But boy, if you go back to when we were 8 and 1, those are good old days. Yeah, exactly. Those are great old days. One injury. That's really what it is. Every year, though, it's like that.
Starting point is 02:50:30 Yeah, that can't be like that. It can't be one injury, right? It's the National Football League. Every year, somebody's going to get hurt. But it was nothing that she could have said at that moment. That would have made Colts fans or any fans feeling differently. She already made the decision that, well, they already made the decision, the Big Three, made the decision that Chris and Shane were coming back.
Starting point is 02:50:48 So it was nothing she was going to say. But it did, I don't know. After watch it, I feel a little more bummed out. Oh, no. But I expect, I just, well, honestly, I'm not a big prepared speech type of guy. Ever. Where like off the, okay, you're clearly reading like a prepared statement. Like, obviously you have some bullet points you want to hit, but, you know, hey, hit it.
Starting point is 02:51:08 You have an open statement. You take some questions. So maybe that's just what turn me off, AJ. But, yeah, I'm pretty, pretty bummed out. It's the reading, I think, that also immediately bums you out, you know, because it's like, let's get back on it. But I think Carly is a very diligent person. For sure. We really already, we know that.
Starting point is 02:51:23 Yeah, they could have teleprompter, you know. in the back, could have given her an opportunity. I don't know how that whole thing goes. Yeah, maybe a pre-recorded statement. She is taking questions. I wonder what they're going to be. Probably a lot of like, why. How did you come to this decision?
Starting point is 02:51:35 Yeah. How so quickly, too? Like, when did you make that? But she said in the thing, like, there was moments. Did she say down the stretch? There's moments during the season where she, they truly believe in the vision that they have there, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:47 And yes, she said that a couple of times. When were those, could you explain those moments to us? Could you give us an example, one or two? Oh, man. It's a good follow-up, bitch. What have been? Thank you. Can we get beamed in there?
Starting point is 02:52:00 Yeah, I'll see what they're doing. Oh, you mean like us actually? Ask you a question. FaceTime Anthony Calhoun. He's got to be there. Anthony Calhoun's got to be there. When did you make this decision? Did anybody ask that?
Starting point is 02:52:10 Carly Ursaid, Gordon also, quote, as saying injuries are never an excuse. You know, injuries are going to happen, I guess you said. Okay. So how do they, so what? What excuse is that? So why do we do seven straight? It's brutal.
Starting point is 02:52:24 Man. It's all right, tough decisions. We signed dimes. He's ready by week five. Riley, though, at the beginning. Yeah, exactly. He looked good, man. He did look good.
Starting point is 02:52:37 Really good. Finishing third. Happy for him. It's happy for him. I thought he didn't know the offense or something. Like, I thought, even though he wanted the Notre Dame and Duke. So I assume he is a very smart guy. But, like, I assume he didn't know how to operate the office or like something.
Starting point is 02:52:52 You know, like I assume there was something that they see. behind the scenes that we don't see. Maybe the guy can't take a damn quarterback center exchange. Maybe there's all these things. I didn't know what it was. And then I'm watching him, I'm like, do we, are we all thinking the same thing? He's slinging it. He's big, he's fast, and the only worry was he couldn't throw the
Starting point is 02:53:09 ball. Like when he was at Notre Dame, couldn't throw the ball. Duke couldn't throw the ball. Could he complete some because he was an athlete? Sure. But he was just an athlete playing quarterback. Watching him like actually, yeah, spin it in like layer a throw. A couple of deep throws. It's like, this guy became a throwing
Starting point is 02:53:25 talent as well. I think that's good news for the coaches in development in this entire thing but also great news for us that Riley potentially became a goal. Because when we were watching at Notre Dame and at Duke, it was very evident he could not throw. So if you could stop him from running, you were probably going to put them in a bad spot.
Starting point is 02:53:41 Then he hurts his ankle whenever he was at Duke and then he makes it all the way of the National Champion. I mean, he is real deal. But like, spinning it, never a thing. That was why he wasn't drafted. I mean, he's got high school basketball highlights. where he is fucking cooking people.
Starting point is 02:53:57 I mean, he is nasty. If he can spin it now, this dude might be an actual, I mean, we might be looking at an actual guy. And obviously very small sample size, but you're going against the best, at least for the first half, like the best defense in the league.
Starting point is 02:54:10 And like you said, most of us had that. We were held back, okay, can he throw the ball downfield? His first touchdown pass to Pierce, the one he missed. Well, Pittman, it was kind of on both his hands. He had to dive off for it. But I thought that was a great throw,
Starting point is 02:54:22 the deep corner, the second touchdown to Pierce as well. showing he has the ability and the fundamentals to do that. It also shows you why Shane is staying as a good coach to have him, you know, at least look this good against Houston. And once again, it's a small sample size. But he gave himself a chance to at least be considered going to the next year and having some meaningful reps and, like, training camp in the offseason.
Starting point is 02:54:43 Bailey McCormis was losing his mind. I bet. Notre Dame fan. Did you see him? I put out a tweet that was like, we're watching Riley right now. He's tall. He's very athletic. He can throw now?
Starting point is 02:54:53 I didn't know he could do this. Are we all thinking the same thing? He responded, yep, yep, like three, yep, we're all thinking it. We're all thinking the same thing as Notre Dame fan. He's got a lot of fans in Indiana already. And the moxie of the dude, he's real athlete, this guy. Oh, yeah, Phil Rivers, too, mentor. Now, granted, Phil Rivers might be head coach somewhere.
Starting point is 02:55:14 We don't know. We're not a hundred and sure. Aye, that's Riley right there, yeah. Natural, easy. Yeah, I mean, RQB. RQB room. if they ever play basketball against any other quarterback
Starting point is 02:55:29 room? Anywhere? Yeah. Three on three, we win. The win, now? Off the two-star. Yeah, we got Riley, A.R., and I assume Dimes can play very good basketball, if I had to guess.
Starting point is 02:55:42 I think Riley Leonard, Anthony Richardson probably beat everybody else all by themselves, and Danny Dimes, I assume he can add somewhere. I don't even know if he's a hooper and I. I assume he's a point, God. I think your toughest might be Houston because Davis Mills is 6-9
Starting point is 02:56:00 and CJ can shoot that day New England too Drake May Oh yeah Pastronaut Unbelievably I don't know if you guys know But cutlets can fucking throw down
Starting point is 02:56:12 Yeah I trust him knowing what's going on out there Yeah always Stolato head coach Of course Of course Like Jimmy V We might actually have Jimmy Valvano
Starting point is 02:56:26 coach in our team. To be clear. Chance from the heavens, obviously. Rest and peace. Thank you for your contribution to society and sports. That's huge, man.
Starting point is 02:56:35 Yeah. A lot of money. Every year they say the amount of money. It's like 100% to it. Yep. Because there's big time, well, backers?
Starting point is 02:56:44 Yeah, they were called something. I forget the man. Financieres? Maybe. Donors? Yeah, I guess it's donors, but it's a different class of donors that basically fund all the
Starting point is 02:56:53 like the front office shit like the people that are president of it working it because there's a lot of people working on that every day the donations don't pay for the workers bingo the donations go directly to actual charity and then they got somebody paying for all the donation from somebody or something benefactors maybe yeah forget what it is endowments yeah the endowment endowment to pay like like scholarships yeah once i learned because you assume all these big things like oh this is some sort of somehow and it's like no 100% donations actually go because they got somebody doing that. It's like, oh, thank you for your contributions.
Starting point is 02:57:28 Because you start looking into the cancer world and your family trees. That thing's everywhere. Oh, yeah. Pulling for everybody right now. Hey, Trego is going through it right now. Yeah, big time. Let's go. Let's go, brother.
Starting point is 02:57:39 He's going to have a new liver concert in here in the Thunderdough. Can't wait for that. You're the Buffalo. They had some heaters back. Oh, he did? Great songs. Better than Foxy Golf. Wow.
Starting point is 02:57:50 He probably is. He's pretty dangue. Yeah, he's better than Foxy Golf. That's the thing. We'll see him. Foxy doesn't believe that. Foxy, you haven't been out there much, huh? Have you? I haven't seen you out there. It's funny you say that. On Saturday, it was 35 degrees,
Starting point is 02:58:03 and I went out there and chipped the putt a little bit outside. Foxxie moved to a neighborhood where he has a golf course right outside. Yeah, it's very close. Foxy's living good. Hey, you deserve it. You deserve it, Foxy. It's the greatest thing ever. I'm just cooped up.
Starting point is 02:58:15 Way too cooped up. Got to be outside a little bit. Yeah, we are a little cooped up. That means ball weather, so cold. Wife and I were talking about how the summer cannot wait for the warm weather for McKenzie, you know? Yeah, that's the big thing.
Starting point is 02:58:28 Getting her outside. Because everything now is like inside, inside, inside. It's like, we need to get her outside. We need to get her outside experience it, running. How near a kicking a ball for us? I don't know how long it's going to take, but we need her structure. I think she's a lefty too.
Starting point is 02:58:41 I mean, so you're talking about maybe a little messy out there. Yeah. I'm very excited to watch that. We got the property. You got, how many kids? Four. Imagine in that house. in Ohio.
Starting point is 02:58:52 Well, we're outside of a lot. In that house, you mean? Old, old CBA. It don't matter. Kids can fight with each other and no matter what size the house is. They will pick on each other and punch and fight
Starting point is 02:59:03 and strangle each other no matter what. Nice. All right, hey, that's Hawk Football. That's right. Yeah, it is. Speaking of football, we need to listen and read
Starting point is 02:59:11 how people around the football universe feel about their football teams on this glorious overreaction Monday. I put out a tweet saying, hey, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on your squad, do. Should somebody be fired or hired or you guys moving and grooving your way to a Lombardy? All you got to do is use the hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Best ones will make the show in Ty Schmidt's eyes. This became a trending topic this morning. We appreciate you all for participating. And shout out to Ball for being as awesome as it is. Let's get into it. This is from 10 things. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but father, Maximilian Maxwell should immediately be the Pope. Have a statue built outside the shore and all the blessings forever. and always. Amen. Ton, I don't think you're lying, and I assume a lot of people feel this way in Pittsburgh. Yeah, we've talked about Father quite a bit,
Starting point is 02:59:59 and he got a lot of run last night because of the Miss Field Goal in that end zone that he was blessing. You know, he wasn't blessing for Miss Field Goals. He was blessing for health and wealth and wellness and all the such, but it just happened to, you know, work out in our factor. And I think he should do it every single game,
Starting point is 03:00:17 and I do think he should be the Pope. I don't see why not. So he just kind of move Father Paul out and Pope Leo out basically in one clean sweep, actually one clean sprague. What are you done for me lately? I heard they're also singing, Oh, father, I'm in mirror for my love. Instead of mama because of what he did.
Starting point is 03:00:36 That place was cranked when we're at game. Yeah. Last night was awesome in Pittsburgh. I heard there was fights everywhere. Love to hear it. Yeah. I mean, that's expected. Baltimore in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 03:00:47 That's the most expected thing of all the time. Remember, had a show at an arena that lasted four hours of Pittsburgh. Yeah, only one fight. One fight, that was a... Pretty good. Nobody's talking about it. Victory.
Starting point is 03:00:59 We're the only ones that have celebrated that fact. Everybody else is like, shouldn't have one. It's like, have you been to Pittsburgh for 10 minutes? Yeah. Whenever everybody's doing their thing. Baltimore people were traveling into Pittsburgh. They thought the game was over with 220 left. Imagine the things at the boat.
Starting point is 03:01:15 Oh, my God. Oh, my second. Yeah. Right before the field goal? 44 yards. Yeah. Standing up. Likely.
Starting point is 03:01:23 Oh, my God. Fourth and seven. Like to get that catch. Immediately. Fuck you. Everybody probably getting it right there. In ear shot. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:32 Bang, you, bang. Because these are the fans that travel to Pittsburgh to watch the game live. That's a certain different style of fan as well to be able to handle that type of situation. Right here.
Starting point is 03:01:42 Oh, my God. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Probably with other words being said, in the Pittsburgh, people just have to sit there in complete disbelief i can't believe it was it was fourth and seven are you kidding me they had to be real quiet in that moment the hell's jalen the hell is high smith
Starting point is 03:01:58 there in 30 yards down the field so many things being questioned by yenzers and all the baltimore people are saying eat shit this is all shitsberg and then this guy hops on the field for a 44 yarder and then place goes ape shit and every baltimore person has to strip a fucking punk Right in there, yeah. Did you see what they did with the left wing for the Ravens on this kick? No. They took them and they moved him to the middle to deal with the jumper. I don't know if I've ever seen that before.
Starting point is 03:02:30 That's just picking up work. Okay. That's picking up work. I think I've heard it said before. I don't know if anybody's actually doing it. Because normally on the outside there's going to be some sort of rush. As soon as he saw how wide that guy was, he said there's no chance. He's going to make it in there because being able to get it from there to the point.
Starting point is 03:02:47 you have to be very fast. I mean, Debo, you'll know more. Old buddy knew he was too wide. Probably not. Never going to make it. Because you're racing a clock there. You know, you're racing a clock there. What's the operation time?
Starting point is 03:02:56 131, 1.30, 125, 1.25 seconds from snap to when the ball is kicked normally. In Loop looks like he's a little closer to the ball. So probably like 1-2-8, 129, if I had a guess on this particular one. So if you're never going to be able to get there in 1.3 seconds, you can kind of look for more work. That's a big-time move, though, because if that guy on the edge gets there. Oh, boy. I mean, you're just kind of eyeballing it there. Yeah, it doesn't look like he can get in.
Starting point is 03:03:20 Yeah, not from that angle. You ever block one? Not in the league, no, no. Actually, no. College. That's tough. Yeah. It is, like, I guess Miles Garrett, what was his get-off?
Starting point is 03:03:32 I mean, I had a- All right, I would have to run back. Blue is point two-three. More than a point-two-three. And he already has the fastest to get-off. That's from Usain Bolt, yeah. That's an insane get-off, especially for the record breaker or whatever. Insane.
Starting point is 03:03:45 Is it all-side? That's what you have. have to do no no i move before right right as the ball's moving for the field goal like you have to have that get off and then you also have to hope that you don't get a good rip it's like a lot of luck involved there too so not only is an insane get off and massive explosion and being all that it is very difficult to block a kick that's why these big boys in the middle have been yeah because they people have been really eating up the middle and getting the chops at the top I think kicking might slow down.
Starting point is 03:04:16 It might become more arena-like for guys to get the ball up. Just forecasting a little bit here. Because the big boys in the middle are getting bigger and faster and more than a lot of care. Jared verse. Guys are just getting her hands up to like 10. Yeah, first, yeah. He just got against Atlanta. That was crazy.
Starting point is 03:04:32 He rolled right in. And then it's just like, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Where are you going with it? It is. That's a huge play. That's insanity to think about. I can't believe Tyler Luton missed that.
Starting point is 03:04:46 Man, this is a big off season for him, H. There's a big off season for him. He's going to have to go off social media. He's going to have to. I felt for him. Darkness retreat. Even though I was glad. I was very happy with it watching my kids.
Starting point is 03:04:58 We all want the Steelers to win. And we say, hey, they were devastated when likely caught that. I was like, hey, still got to make the kick, man. Like, we still got to make a kick. Nothing's guaranteed. Has to be a good snap, good hold, and a good kick all at the same time happening, like a symphony with good synergy. you know all that is taking place
Starting point is 03:05:14 and anything could obviously be missed that moving like that though but shit Boswell's kick look damn near the same slice almost so for that to happen right like that
Starting point is 03:05:28 I mean right down the middle at first yeah and that's not a boss miss either but boss that ball normally stays true for boss you know there might be a little moving but that's half it's crazy and it was crazy to watch Cam Little's like that draw he had on here because it started like outside and they carried like he's a real talented
Starting point is 03:05:47 watching these kicks man kickers a big deal brother huge Chris Boswell I guess is also getting some yinzer heat I believe yinzers are at them they won shouldn't miss that extra point pal okay yeah you're all pro maybe best in the game we need you to make an extra point whenever a fucking a fc north on the line with some other things sprinkled in I assume is that accurate Yeah. Yeah. He hit a 57-year-order, though. He did. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I would be singing a different tune if Flute didn't miss that kick. Yeah, they lost by one.
Starting point is 03:06:20 He'd be so pissed. He's so pissed. Oh, my God. At a bad boss, you're going to be good. And Lou, you're going to be good, too, buddy. You're going to be better because it doesn't feel like it now, and obviously nobody is happy with it. Nobody, and you should not be. Like, definitely have to make that kick. He's going to be better for that long term. Let's go to the next other reaction, shall we?
Starting point is 03:06:39 is from Mark Zink. He's spinning a ball on his finger. He's an athlete. Hashtack, I don't want to react. But... Watching Statue Bowls run the show while the Bucks had one of the worst collapses in NFL history knowing Liam Cohen was right here, turned Baker into a star, building an elite offense and is now thriving
Starting point is 03:06:55 elsewhere while we're stuck with Todd was heartbreaking. Sorry about it, Mark. They're not moving on either. Was that announced today? Well, that's what Chepty said. He said, you know, again, he heard that about the Cardinals and Gannon, so you never know. But they have not said, once that he is on the hot seat or he's going to be fired and they've been calling for his
Starting point is 03:07:13 job for the last really 10 weeks it stinks because they're fun to watch awesome vina vea are rolling too just the whole thing that's so cool MVP favorite the first first six weeks my god mike evans they're five and one right yeah five and one abuka was the rookie of the year yeah like he this is multiple times now when was it a couple years ago we were at the texas state fair and baker joined us yeah they were really really that was the beginning of season they were real good yep and then something happened what happens that's what people are asking exactly that's a good question last year lost at home in the playoffs to the commander it did on the last second field goal i remember that imagine that loops
Starting point is 03:07:54 exactly and they go back and win that's a whole different too you don't use that as a verb you're a kill him man i you know what i meant yeah like the one if he asks because that ball should have went in that ball now dan oolovsky did that the good film. He sent it to me this morning. He referenced you. He referenced. Oh, I saw it live today. Oh, did he reference me? That's good. I'm happy to hear. He said, like, I confirmed this with Pat McAfee and Greenie. I think he said, and McAfee checked off on it, we're okay. Like, they gave you your pretty good. That was bad. Good impression. That was really good. Because Orlovsky sent it to me this morning, and he was like, am I crazy or what?
Starting point is 03:08:32 It was like the caption when he said it to me. Look at this, dude. And it was him recording on his computer, you know, and I don't know, coming over like 607 a.m. probably. I'm sitting in a hundred and ninety four degrees sauna with, I got a sauna cap now. I got a sauna cap now. So I feel like I'm saving my hair. The only one I could get in time was a Viking one, so I look like an asshole. That's sick. That's cool. That's what I'm doing. Just, you know, Dan Rolovsky sent him over this. I'm sitting there dying sweat scrolling through the internet trying to see what's happening in the world. And Rulov's saying, am I crazy or what? So I look at it. He was pretty accurate. So every single make that loop hits, you know, full head down, all the way follow
Starting point is 03:09:10 through. Because the thing that it's taught is basically like you're looking to be looking down past your leg, still at the spot as the ball is flying. And I think he just kind of taught that so like you stay in it, you know, like you're supposed to stay in it. But I told Orlovsky, yes, certainly matters. Because in his last one, he like lifts his head up with the kick almost. And it's like certainly could be a problem with him not being all the way in it, not trusting it, trying to guide it and he could probably showcase it by that or also as soon as he kicked it he knew he wasn't good and he wanted to look at it you know like which one leads to what like does your head down lead to good ball contact or does bad ball contact lead to your head coming up
Starting point is 03:09:46 because you want to see how shitty it is you know so there's it could go either way I think only loop would know but uh feels like he knew immediately that that thing wasn't going in and I hate that for him because that's a soon as he looks up he's hoping to fucking god that that thing somehow is going straight and that it's not but it's only going more that way because the father blessed over there. That's a tough time. I hope he's okay.
Starting point is 03:10:09 Good luck, bud. Good luck. It's got a top Villarreal at Mr. Villarreal 32. Hashtag I don't want to react. But it's over for the Niners. Yet again, when the lights are the brightest, Kyle Shanahan shits the fucking thing. Salah had his defense ready.
Starting point is 03:10:23 Shanahan outsmarted himself again and had zero answers from Mike McDonald. Kyle can't win the big games. What a joke. McDonald's been able to do this to everybody. Yeah? Okay, I think some people are underestimating how good the Seattle Seahawks defense is. And on the offensive side, I was disappointed in what that Niners' offense look like.
Starting point is 03:10:40 Three points after what, you know, Brock Perrin offense, we're able to do the two games leading up to this is a very tough defense, but three points. And then every time, every one of these games, you see that second half stat from Shanahan's tenure, which is insane. I don't know the exact stack, so I don't want to mess it up. So when he's down by 10 points in the second half. Yeah. Insane. Like insane for him. and obviously the great offensive coach that he is
Starting point is 03:11:03 to not be able to, we all think, you know, adjust down the stretch of the game. So I was very alarming going into the playoffs because with the defense, you don't think it's a lockdown defense that's going to hold teams of 17, 19 points. Great celebration. So offense is going to need to score some points.
Starting point is 03:11:20 So that was very alarming if you are a Niners fan. Did he do some sexual innuendoza? Well, like, he did. He did. He did. I don't want to be, you know, dry snitching. Lucky he didn't get a penalty right there. Hey, without these refs have been calling this,
Starting point is 03:11:34 that's incredibly unlucky that are going in the score. Christian McCaffrey makes a move. I appreciate that, you know, a big guy's got a little wiggle here. They got a little wiggle here. But I want to let you know these reps these days, they're calling that. They are calling that.
Starting point is 03:11:50 You got a spotlight on. Is that sexual? Got pick his nose? Is that gang-related activity? Can't have it. How do you deem something sexual? That's like a personal preference, I think. Yeah, because that, honestly, I guess we just learn about the refs a little bit, you know?
Starting point is 03:12:07 Yeah, like, is the ref hard? Is that any third the flag? That's actually a good question. That's a very, like, specific thing, I think, of what people are into. I don't know how you make that a rule. No question. Like a guy doing push-ups. Is that sexual?
Starting point is 03:12:22 Probably for somebody. Oh, man. You're right, age. Hey, you never know. I guess everybody's into their own things, you know? push-up could be pretty you never know yeah sexual sitting down you know we learned about what was going on those hammocks exactly yeah exactly oh mushing it through there yeah that's what I guess we never know it's in the eye of the uh beholder yeah yeah it's tough I think we should
Starting point is 03:12:49 reword that rule yeah I think we should take the subjectivity out of it I think there should be strict sexual references that are not a lot just in case some of these refs start thinking themselves. I've seen that done before. Because my first thought's Hulu Hoop. Boom. Oh. Cool. Good call. Yeah. Good call. Mine was definitely helicopter and penis. Ah, see? I think unless
Starting point is 03:13:12 a guy actually takes his dick out and starts helicopter in it, though, he should be flagged. Hulu. Yeah. That was a Hulu. Clearly a Hulu. Shout to the boys, Hulu hooping over there. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to the next one. Doesn't matter at Combat the Nardo. Respect.
Starting point is 03:13:28 Hashtack, I don't want to react. Being a Colts fan is worse for my mental health than my tour in Afghanistan was. A 10th season of playoffs or bust? What the actual fuck are the Colts doing? How many times are we going to throw this shit at the wall, watch a slide down, and then do it again? That's a great question. Doesn't matter, brother.
Starting point is 03:13:47 It does matter. We appreciate you, man. Thanks for your service. Thank you, your service. Boy, it does feel like those 94 percenters before the season. We're back and louder than ever. There was a poll done, AJ, if you do recall. What's your optimism level going into the season?
Starting point is 03:14:05 Calls for dead last. 94% of the fans said, we think we're going to be ass. It feels like they're backing louder than ever at this moment. Remember, we got a lot of good guys. Yeah. We lack our guys. Lack our guys.
Starting point is 03:14:17 Yeah. When's your next first round pick? So, I've been thinking about that. There's some deals I've crafted in my head that could potentially get us a one. We have some pieces. I think there's some non-negotiables. Okay, Quentin Nelson.
Starting point is 03:14:29 can't, he's a cult for life. Need him. Especially he's becoming a vocal leader. We need him. DeForest Buckner had surgery. If he's still playing, I don't know, it was a neck. I don't know what the future is. I don't think we really talked about the Forrest Buckner much. He came and played, and then he was out again, very worried about that.
Starting point is 03:14:46 Then he had surgery. I think it went well. I think from him here, it is non-negotiable. Everybody else I think should be available. Okay. I think Patriots would, you know, I think Patriots would send you two, maybe a one for Layatu Latu. Maybe can't buy them.
Starting point is 03:15:05 Tyler Warren's not going anywhere, especially first half of season, Tyler Warren. Yeah, I assumed he was also off the table. Yeah, Tyler Warren's not going anywhere. So it was a good call. Leightu, Latu, who else? Can't buy them. Yeah, you could probably get a second. Fetch a second for that.
Starting point is 03:15:20 We give you pennies on the dollar for sauce. Like two-fourths, maybe? That's not. We're not in that business. That's not what we're doing. That's not what we're doing. What are you looking for? That deal's pretty close right there.
Starting point is 03:15:32 That would have to be a one. I love Latu Latu. He's a ball hawk. He's a dog. He's absolutely. Oh, never mind. Can't trade for him. He got that Colts tattoo on his shoulder.
Starting point is 03:15:42 That's part of his story. That's just part of his story. That's fine. A. Q. Shipley has a full raven on his back. And then he's got a Pittsburgh Steel Bridge. And he's got a Colts horse. Does he really? Yes, actually.
Starting point is 03:15:54 Every team, like every team he played for? Yeah, he's got his life story on her. My life story on her. that's pretty cool everything yeah every every part of his life is on there but i'm just saying we could make some moves bundle some pieces get some stuff we still have two three four five six and seven picks which he eats in uh-huh pierce what round was he you know it i think he's a free second round second round pick i'm saying oh yeah he ballard fucking eats bruh in the second third and fourth round he does yes he that's where's josh downs third third round you know
Starting point is 03:16:28 Jonathan Taylor's second round. Boom. See? Now we're talking. See, Ballard Cooks that. Oh, he just doesn't like first round picks. Well, that's the best freaking... White Nelson.
Starting point is 03:16:39 And DeForest Buckner. We gave up DeForest for our first rounder. Yeah, that's two out of ten years. Warren. Two for sauce. And we don't know how that's going to be. Okay, but he got... I mean...
Starting point is 03:16:50 He's picking first in the draft. Him getting hurt was tough. Both times he got hurt was tough. Very early in the games. So it's not even like we saw him in the game. It was like first play of game happens both times. It's like, so excited. Sauce is playing.
Starting point is 03:17:04 No, he's not. So next year we got full sauce. I completely forgot about full sauce. You didn't see he's picking first in the draft? No, what do you mean about it? This season, over the 17 games, he had the worst record in the NFL. That's not him. It's not him.
Starting point is 03:17:18 He's a locked down corner. You throw him? I saw that because he came out and said. And everybody was attacking him for saying that? It's like, Sauce Gardner, he's a corner. What is he supposed to say? Yeah, they're going to talk their shit like that. It's kind of what corners do.
Starting point is 03:17:30 Then he deleted it. I didn't like that. But then I was told that's what he does. That's his thing. He will put something in and he's taking it down. Which I kind of like even more. Yeah, get off your chest, then all right. Snapchat for Twitter.
Starting point is 03:17:43 Good game it. Yeah, it's not bad. Now, granted, I don't know if it was the right time to do it, you know, in a situation that has been happening. But, hey, a lot of people failing to respect what he has been able to accomplish on a football field. He's potential lockdown. Now, who else do we get? it, Ward.
Starting point is 03:17:59 Ward, who is considering retirement. Was that the pre-game injury? Yeah, that was crazy. Been through a lot. Yeah, that's unfortunate. So whenever we talk about, like, excuses for why team doesn't do well, it's like, I guess they exist a lot
Starting point is 03:18:12 for every year of the Colts. They need Sage over there. They need the Sage. They need Father Maximilian Maxwell to get over here and throw some of that Holy War. Trade a second round pick for him. How about that? Colts?
Starting point is 03:18:24 Yeah. Be worth it. Father Maximilian? He ain't a second round. We don't have a one, brother. Put on the coconut husk. You have to offer a percentage, maybe. Why do our guys?
Starting point is 03:18:36 Maybe that's the problem. That's another question. I mean, what's your training staff doing? Working? On what? Too many guys, brother. We got too many guys in there all the time. Let's get to the next overreaction.
Starting point is 03:18:52 I did appreciate that. That was a good one, though. I thought so. And thanks for your service. Kyle B, the Polish Gibronie. hashtag I don't want to overreact but this team won from selling tickets for $1.80 16 months ago
Starting point is 03:19:04 to hosting its first playoff game in a decade this Saturday night what a time to be alive hashtag keep pounding congrats Carolina I like the optimism I don't even know if 180 was possible because of the fees and everything I think they were actually paying people to come to the games shout to Tepper
Starting point is 03:19:19 shout to the Panthers turn that entire thing around quickly and obviously the record's not the best in the NFL but hosting a playoff game what that can do a community, a city, a fan base, everything. Special, special stuff down in Carolina happening. And only up from here, right, age? Only up from here for Carolina.
Starting point is 03:19:36 Oh, yeah. I would expect that atmosphere to be off the charts Saturday night. That team, I would imagine the fans look around and say, man, look like, look at where we were and here we are in the playoffs with an actual chance to win at all. Bryce Young was bench within the last 12 months. I mean, there's so much to talk about
Starting point is 03:19:52 with the Carolina Panthers and how they've gotten to this spot. Record, not the greatest. But in playoffs, win NFC, South craziness deep. Yeah, seems like then Morgan was a pretty good hire. I love what T-MAC was able to do this year. Out of Y receiver, he developed. He was great.
Starting point is 03:20:06 Coker, these guys, the backfield, the combo in the back field with Donald and Hubbard. They got the pieces. They just got to get more weekend and week out. They got to be the same team. I feel like it's a little too up and down. But hosting the Rams coming in, they already have the confidence. They beat them a few weeks ago. So we'll see.
Starting point is 03:20:23 They are, I believe, 8-0 because it was 7-0 coming in this. 8-0 off of a loss. against a spread. So they're off a loss. Spreads 10.5. Maybe they make a 9-0. Death taxes, Panthers potentially govern after a loss. 10-and-a-half is a lot of points.
Starting point is 03:20:40 I feel like the people think, I think Draft Kings thinks that the L.A. Ram is about to play their best football in the biggest stage? Yeah, is that the biggest home dog in the history of the NFL playoffs for a game? I mean, the only one I can think of is Saints at Seahawks when Marshall Lynch with the Beesquake. 10-and-a-half's a lot. That's insane.
Starting point is 03:20:59 That's a lot of points. All right, let's get to the next overreaction. Speaking of the Beastquake, this is from Ryan Bowles. Hashtag I don't want to overreact? But? I was told the 49ers team was on a heater these past few weeks. Look pretty shit to me. Tough gritty wins is what this team is made of.
Starting point is 03:21:15 It's no longer who have they beat. It's now who you have to beat. Seahawks, Super Bowl. Book it. I'll tell you what. Them being home field throughout the entirety of the playoffs, is potentially very sick for the NFL as a whole. As the numbers go up, getting a chance to showcase
Starting point is 03:21:32 our greatest environment that the NFL has in a lot of people's eyes, looming field up there, the Seattle Seahawks. I'm excited for this team to go on a run. And with a great defense, with that crowd, if you can run the ball, which they seemingly are proven to do, why not the Seattle Seahawks, the number one seed in the NFC? Why not? We always talk about defense and be able to run the ball in the playoffs.
Starting point is 03:21:54 Always going to come down to that quarterback as well. We know he has at least one weapon with JSN who, you know, was on a record-breaking pace this year that you're going to find in those clutch moments. So we'll see us all out there for when two games you're in the Super Bowl. So you're saying Sam Donald, though, can make the big place. You did? No, we've seen him, mate. We just got to see him on the stage.
Starting point is 03:22:13 I'm not saying he can't. I just got to see. Shit, that's the case with a lot of these quarterbacks on the big stage right now. Yeah, especially in the AFC. The NFC's got a lot of zero wins next to their quarterback's teams. Yeah, but the last game was like a playoff game because it was for, number one see that's true no not really even if he lost he's still been in yeah you've been you've been in playoff games it's a that's a good stat it's a different
Starting point is 03:22:36 different ball game it's vastly different but but for a number one see for a number one see for a number one see for a number one see playoff wins among playoff quarterbacks obviously a lot of guys that haven't been there a lot of guys who haven't tasted it a lot of guys getting their first crack at it who will be able to bust through and become a legend or one of the old guard. Take it home. That's what the playoffs are all about. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Phil Lipp, at Lipp, Phil.
Starting point is 03:23:04 Hashtag I don't want to react. But Zach Taylor needs to be forcibly extracted from his home exactly like Maduro was. That is the only way the Bengals will rid their fans of the abomination they call coaching staff. If I have to go through 10 more years of white Marvin Lewis,
Starting point is 03:23:20 I may just have to go into a coma. Fire Zach. Fire Duke. Save Joe. That's pretty good reaction at Cincinnati. But Phil Lipp knew year left on both contracts. Exactly, not a chance. They're going nowhere.
Starting point is 03:23:37 I'll pay two coaches. Hey, Marvin Lewis, be loved by everybody. You know, so maybe Zach Taylor does become the Caucasian version of that. It is a wild time to be a Benglis fan that feels like, especially with Joe Burrow being as good as he is, and the reality that they're probably never going to actually win anything. Again, they missed it whenever they're taking on the Rams.
Starting point is 03:23:55 Yeah, it'll be very interesting. to see what are they going to like rehaul their entire roster they can't really and you know know a lot of i don't think it's fair a lot of people are saying all joe caro uh joe burrow cared about on sunday with his fucking hair okay that was a tough press conference well i'm just saying you know a lot of people saying that he did say that he believes in the like what what they're doing what their vision is but to tie's point um do those cap hits for jamar and t and himself go down now you guys never understand this okay those capids don't go down and you know what else does it sometimes when you got callics in your hair
Starting point is 03:24:31 is this edited no that's what he was he was trying to he was battling two callics okay for those that don't know i got a lot of these in my hair age i don't know if you have any because obviously you go ahead and take that thing straight back so good for you but you know i have some uh some parts of my hair where it's only going to go one direction yeah no matter what i'm thinking so grown it out is an interesting thing him having a battle on the national stage like this with a calic that's just not cooperating certainly uh not the fun but he should had taken it, he knows what to do with that thing. Yeah. If he were taking that sandwich over
Starting point is 03:25:00 top, that thing would have had a wave on it like he was a model. He would have been like he was a model there. Instead, he just fought that thing for a good minute and a half, two minutes. And it is annoying. I do want to kind of emphasize how irritating this is when your hair is getting in your face, getting in front
Starting point is 03:25:16 of your eyes. Just a tickling of the face and a blocking of a view, you know, like a block of the view, certainly something. Right now he wants to pull, he wants to lose his mind. And you would have thought maybe after one of them, though, like maybe the fifth one, hair would have done something?
Starting point is 03:25:33 Exactly. That fucker was nowhere in here. You got to shake it sometimes. Just boom, boom, boom, boom. He should have taken the top over, I think. I think you should have done the over gimmick. I would love to see that. Or just put something in it, Joe.
Starting point is 03:25:48 Joe believes in a system over there in Centsy. Yeah, certainly. Why wouldn't he? He's getting paid a fucking King's ransom. You know, half the season he's saying, this ain't fucking fun i don't even like playing football and he never said he didn't like playing football no he didn't he said he didn't like winning but i'll tell you what you know what we'll see maybe next year they go with the exact same team minus tray hendricksson and whoever else they're
Starting point is 03:26:11 going to lose maybe they go 13 and four and they kind of say fuck you to everybody else we're going to score 75 points a game and that's how we're going to win football games they might do that i could see that that'd be so much fun to watch if they were in 75 a game i know got a good pick What number? Somewhere in the top 18. Because it's your ass. Yeah. Let's get to the next overreaction, shall we?
Starting point is 03:26:34 The Colts don't even have one of this. No. Exactly. No. What sucks. We might have one by draft time. Let's not get crazy. BC fries or freeze.
Starting point is 03:26:41 At BC Freeze. Hashtag I don't want to react. But it's the greatest 24 hours in the history of Falcons football. Beat the Ains, Rahim, gone. Terry gone. Rich McKay, gone. This feels like a dream. And now the goat, Maddie Ice, is going to step in and make all the decisions.
Starting point is 03:26:55 Take us as a Super Bowl hashtag rise up, says BC Freeze. What a time. I know local sports media is definitely excited. Yeah. Yeah, we've been listening to some of that over the past couple months. They'd be calling for change down there in Atlanta, Pronto. Yeah. Who's going to get the gig down there?
Starting point is 03:27:10 Gigs, I guess. I don't know. It's a great question. They got some talent, too. Special on that defense side of the ball, James Pierce, Jr., he broke their rookie sack record. We saw Xavier Watts on prime time make a couple huge plays rookie safety out of Notre Dame. It definitely has some talent. Obviously, you have to figure out the quarterback situation.
Starting point is 03:27:28 But, yeah, I've seen nothing but this reaction from the few Falcon fans that I know on, like, X and shit. Which is surprising because from the outside looking in, I thought Rahim was going to get another opportunity to think, what, just two years? And then he's out after that. After eight and nine season, they kind of finished on a positive end. There were four and one in primetime, which the casuals who just watched Falcons then are, like, how the hell is this team where they are? So I guess that's a good reason to move on from the coach. But yeah, this has pretty much been the fan-basid reaction. I think Terry Fontno is a big one, too.
Starting point is 03:28:01 Super winning GM. Terry Fonton? Exactly. From the fans. I think they're excited. Rich McKay as well. I think they're just excited here. There's going to be a new bunch, maybe running it all. Beatles in there used to be president of Atlanta Falcons, now president and CEO.
Starting point is 03:28:16 We saw that. We learned about him. And then Sportology and ZRG, two outside independent consulting firms will be coming in to help them with everything else. It's big. It works out great. That's massive. It is massive.
Starting point is 03:28:27 Maybe get three of them. Maybe get three consultants. The trifecta. Yeah, because... How many total people you think come in? 200. Consulting-wise? I think I saw a roster of eight on the Sportology one.
Starting point is 03:28:38 I think I was looking at that one. ZRG could be endless. You never know. Because there might be an assistant to the expert on. Exactly. How many consultants do they have? Yeah, exactly. Well, and also they got their own corporate structure of consultancy.
Starting point is 03:28:51 Yep. You know, because there is a chief consultant. officer yeah let alone who's under the CC junior consultant officer prior consultant officer youth I can say youth consultant I don't know if there's that's for the lower
Starting point is 03:29:05 tier stuff oh that's like the junior junior consultant who they then elevate what do they consult with when they're not consulting with NFL football teams well consulting obviously they're consulting like what other companies what other kind of companies do we know well they consult amongst themselves
Starting point is 03:29:23 about consulting so they can be the best consulting that any consulting could be. So I think they're ready to consultant about anything, you know, and that's the part about being a great consultant consulting firm. These things talk to each other. Yeah, and these things do like the gossip. So within this consultant's consulting firm, there's certainly gossiping happening about one consultant strategy versus another consultant strategy, and then they've got to consult about the consulting strategies.
Starting point is 03:29:47 And then you think to yourself, well, who's the consultant and who's the consultee? Yeah. Bingo. It's a fair question. And that's kind of what it's all about whenever you start consulting stuff. Now, I am looking at a lineup here, and there's a previous and a next button. So, I mean, I think there's a lot. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:05 I think there's a lot of these people, one of one down there. Here's the consulting firm. Oh, Len Perner's on the team. I didn't know that. Yes, and Kelly Lewis and Brian Lick. We know Brian Lick, obviously, very well. Rick Alessandri, now, this guy knows his stuff. This guy knows his stuff.
Starting point is 03:30:22 Can you scroll up and we see who this is? Meet our consultants. Our collaboration and season executive search consultants span industries, functions, and regions. Based out of 28 office locations, we have successfully placed candidates in over 30 countries. All right, you can't turn yourself. 30 countries? Oh, man. A lot of ball beat played.
Starting point is 03:30:42 Sheesh. They know ball. Soccer, any ball, tennis, ball. Greg Beatles, named president and CEO. Congrats, Greg. What they got? two consulting firms needed while the president is promoted need two consulting things for business president promoted of business
Starting point is 03:31:06 yeah checks out tight ship rise up guess what they get it right rise up yep he'll be all around the league it's the only thing that matters get it right win a Super Bowl good luck out there we're pulling for you Brady's using a consulting firm I think he is the consultant, I think. That's probably why he was given ownership, though. And I don't mind that, you know? I don't mind the Tom Brady consultant.
Starting point is 03:31:31 I don't like independent. What do I know, though? We don't own a fucking team. What do we know? Was he running last year when they hired Pete? I believe he was involved, yeah. Yeah, because he was, you know, like he was the one who loves spy tech because they worked together and did.
Starting point is 03:31:45 All right, Tommy. Exactly. Kind of approve it here. Yeah. Big hiring. For Tom? Tommy, boy. For Tom Brady?
Starting point is 03:31:52 kind of is I guess I didn't really think about that I mean I didn't know who you were talking about four seconds before you said it because that feels like my brain would have never thought one of the owners of the team yeah there's I believe there's a bunch of minority owners being added to the Raiders by the way that do a lot of business like a lot of people there's a lot of brains about to be in the Raiders organization I think how do they all what are they all and where's Mark is he still just upstairs playing on his game boy maybe I think he upgraded to PS5 is that what you're That's smart. Yes, I was. PS5 is fucking awesome. How was your weekend? Is that what you were playing on? Oh, I was playing rock band all weekend, dude. Yes, yes. I was playing Rock Band 4 all weekend on the PS5, which is a PS4 game. I realized it's gone much harder.
Starting point is 03:32:37 Some of the combinations between the hands, I almost hurt my hand. I think I pulled the muscle on my shoulder. Yeah, getting after it. Actually, from doing it, I woke up on Sunday like, fuck, man, what I'd do. It might have been because of Rock Band 4. I had a roommate, my freshman year, Scott Kozlowski, went on to be a very good punter for West Virginia. You know, he was so good at the game. Love it.
Starting point is 03:32:54 Quiet, okay? I'm tired sleeping. You're in a dorm room, open room. He has it turned down. Gentlemen, very nice of him doing that. The sound of his fingers hitting the thing would wake me up. Because he was so good. I mean, he had to be the greatest of all time.
Starting point is 03:33:12 He did the thing. Yeah, shredding. There's some of you out there, right? You used to be one of those. Yeah, back in the day. I'm getting there. I'm getting back up. The cool part with these new guitars is,
Starting point is 03:33:21 was all up here, you can kind of go in this casual mode, and it's not casual. You're still playing on... That's all shredding. Still shredding. But it's down here, so you don't have to move as much and it's not as loud. It's just much more, like, you've got to be much more precise because the buttons are smaller. They're like this instead of like this.
Starting point is 03:33:37 It's awesome. I was never really good at that. It's so fun. Microfan with the bop and sing the song. Yeah, yeah. Which also can do with the PlayStation controller now, I learned. I can bop and sing in my PlayStation controller. Yeah, because it has a microphone. Yeah, but you don't want to hold that side. You want to fucking yeah you can you think of Mike yeah true yeah yeah you know Mike on that that
Starting point is 03:33:55 shitty ass mic that they used to oh tough awesome rock man had a good run so good oh yeah still go hammered drunk people trying to play that late at night rock band just an awesome certainly what a fucking dance game with the arrows oh yeah yeah I can see the balloon bone just crushed yeah do you remember that guy there's some guy that really beat the game the hands on the back of the thing yeah yeah do you remember that There was a couple experts on that shit. I happened upon one, I believe, at an arcade. If my memory serves it.
Starting point is 03:34:26 In the wild? Yes, in the wild. I happened upon one. And it was holy. I remember just being completely captivated. I assume I was having a good time. And I assume my, yeah, I think it's coming back to me. I think it was in L.A. somewhere.
Starting point is 03:34:38 They had a, like, it was always up on a stage, you remember? Yeah, a little bit. Oh, yeah. Had lighting. Music was very loud. It was like a show. And I remember just being captivated. And it was right on the back.
Starting point is 03:34:49 first person I saw used the back thing as like actual leverage crushed genius absolutely fucking killed I think I tipped the person if I recall I think I tip the yeah you use the back as like a real leverage shouldn't be able to hold the back that's what it's there for that's what the person was telling me that's that's for old geriatrics not to fall over and break their hip you should if you're dancing you should be dancing yeah but what if they're doing this and this seems to be a doubler this guy ain't dancing dominates these aren't real dance moves when you're holding the
Starting point is 03:35:19 bar. Nope. Yeah, but they're fucking getting after it. All right, man, he's got good feet. He does. Give me a corner. DDR brought quick feet out, you know, but the hand on the back thing, the rail really changed the game.
Starting point is 03:35:31 Speaking of change of the game, Luke Littler, holy fuck. Man. Back to back, dude. Unbelievable. Back to back world fucking champion down there at Ali Polly. Listen, they threw a wasp at him.
Starting point is 03:35:42 They try to get Luke Littler attacked by a wasp in the middle of his setup. I mean, we're only seeing the tail end of this thing, him kind of dodging. Heirs. Thank God he's got, you know, good moves. It's for a million bucks. He was lined up to get this, and then all of a sudden this wasp comes.
Starting point is 03:35:57 He moves, ducks, dodge, dubs, dives, and dodge. And then he gets right back. As soon as his wasp leaves, I don't know if we have it on camera, we don't have it. He steps right back up. Boom, boom, boom, grabs him, keeps him moving. And then the guy calling us goes, One 42, and the place goes crazy. It was bucket electrifying.
Starting point is 03:36:17 I would love to watch. watch. And then Shane Gillis' ass is in fucking attendance there. I mean, it looked outrageous. And Luke Littler is must watch Darts Television. Yeah, and you mentioned there, George Noble, shout to him. He went into the Hall of Fame, the announcer. He's done. John McDonald also, he went into. Thank you for your service, gentlemen. But yeah, this was one of the greatest sporting events I've ever watched, bar none. Like, we talk a lot about, you know, some of the finals, like Wimbledon and tennis and even the four majors with golf. Like, that's kind of where I'm putting darts at now in my brain
Starting point is 03:36:49 at least. I am a casual to start but I mean the Premier League of Darts starts in February should be great. Littler right now is unconscious though. You know, Guy and Van Vien had no chance and he tried to up the moxie there's George Noble shout out legend. And he tried to kind of get it done
Starting point is 03:37:04 Van Vien but once the door was shut by Littler, yeah, he really just had no chance. At the beginning though, Luke was missing the opportunities. You see that down their legs and then obviously six. 180 oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh i mean it is electrifying you see that one set down there at the bottom well you got to get the five legs i believe to get the one set then we're trying to get the
Starting point is 03:37:31 seven sets okay is what you're trying to do that first set was won by who van neen litler lost coming out littler was ice cold could have put it away actually lost and then he walked off the stage with incredible boxy then he came back afterwards and he had that foot sideways glean and all of a sudden it was One day Luke Lither's a weapon over there. Yeah, it was tied and Van Vien was up 2-0. We'd go on the third set
Starting point is 03:37:59 and then all of a sudden boom here go. Oh, that's right there it is. At one point he won like 14 of 15 sets like Van Vien was just getting shut out. So right on the side, don't play this. Put the screen on the screen on the screen. No, don't play it. So triple 20, triple 20,
Starting point is 03:38:15 I will do it, right? So once you get under 180, they start putting on the side what you have to do. And you have to double in or double out. Okay, so you have to hit a double. So once those little things popped up on the side, then we kind of knew what the fuck he was trying for. And then watching them potentially miss one of those. And then in real time adjust to like a double eight instead. Okay, we'll do that.
Starting point is 03:38:36 It was outrageous. John fishing. Yeah, it felt like, because you're seeing what he's looking for, triple 20, triple 20 bull. And then they're zoomed in. And it's like triple 20, triple 20. And then now they zoom in on the bull, right in on the bull. And it's like, bozai, he's done it again. And it's, uh, the place goes fucking eap shit.
Starting point is 03:38:54 I don't know how it'll work in America, if it would work in America. But I do know I want to be in one over there. Yes. Because like, it's Halloween. It's fucking. Bingo. Carnival. I mean, they are fucking living in that crowd.
Starting point is 03:39:07 Yeah. And it looked like kind of like an October fest setup because you mentioned Shane Gillis was there. And it's like tables. People dressed up. So the way the Premier League works, it feels feasible for, like, the States. It's just eight dudes. All of them are studs.
Starting point is 03:39:21 Cool Hands Humphreys, if you remember from last year. Yeah. Him, Littler, Van Veen, this guy, Andrew Van Gervyn, who's an absolute nuke. Yeah, here we go. Him, right there, he's middle-rights. Stephen Bunting, he's the people's champ, I guess. People are not happy. Yeah, people aren't happy with him right now.
Starting point is 03:39:43 He's titanium. Yeah, he comes out to titanium. But if they just took these four or these eight on tour and just did like, hey, we're going to do round robin at a theater. I mean, shit, the dome would be fucking sick, but a theater with, you know, 5,000 people. And also shut down those arenas. So they shut down like half of those arenas and put stages up and then they kind of book off the head. Final four.
Starting point is 03:40:07 Yeah, Final four they do that. UFC weigh-ins, they do that. I've seen other things. where they have an arena and then they just back the stage up for however many people you get. You know, like, we're cool with it just being like a theater here on the end. And then if we get more people, we back it up and then you have that.
Starting point is 03:40:23 And then you back it up and you have that. It's like, I think that would be a good setup for the darts. Yeah. Because these arenas not as expensive as you would think. Now, granted, they're taking a beast. But if you can fill it up, which these fuckers can, it would be an incredible event just to go and have a good time. Yeah, well, it's for the good time.
Starting point is 03:40:40 Like, if you just drop, you know, beer prices and food prices, is, you know, maybe if you're thinking, hey, maybe we take a hit on that, but we get more people build the sport in the States, it would be a pretty easy way to do. I think it's a special moments, especially if you're, Luke Littler's 18. Yeah, the Moxie. We got to be there for the three, Pete. Next year. He's going for the three.
Starting point is 03:41:00 I don't know. I think he might be the first hour. Do they have to do it during football season? Yeah, that's the issue. This was the first time it's falling on a Saturday as well, I read in quite some time at Ali Pele. It's normally on Sunday? I don't know. Actually, it's my, it's my first year competing in the watching of it. But I do, I do think it is either.
Starting point is 03:41:21 It's awesome. It is, I'm not kidding. It was so, I watched a whole pre-gating. Commentators are perfect. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Commentators are like baseball commentators, but also, like, you know, have incredible, like, because they've got to fill time.
Starting point is 03:41:34 Yeah, they bicker. They beg. That's like baseball. Like, baseball, I think, is more like a conversational commentary. But then they got to bring the juice whenever something. massive happens and it's like they clearly have to love darts as well. Yeah, the announcer and to your point, George Noble
Starting point is 03:41:49 that guy. The ref. Yeah, the ref. He also plays a vital role in the 180 announcement. 180 And then the other guy is trying to throw while that's happening. The entire place is going crazy. Starting chance. Yeah. Like they
Starting point is 03:42:08 Congrats, Luke. You guys all captivated, bro. And I love it. So I get We got our insight from Nigel, our English course on it. It said a lot of German fans booing Luke Littler at that one that we saw. Oh, he reached out? Yeah, well, I think he tweeted and he said, like, hey, boys, one crucial piece of information you're missing is that's, I think that's a lot of German fans.
Starting point is 03:42:29 That's Nigel. Yeah, he's giving us a piece of info that we need. And I know if Luke Littler's throwing, it's going to be electric. Yeah. Well, in the tweets about it. Like, hey, this guy's only getting better. Exactly. And they're saying, like, hey, wait until this guy turns into, like,
Starting point is 03:42:43 I'm an alcoholic. Like, he's going to get way better. Like, right now he's drinking, like, fruity drinks and doing all this bullshit. Wait until this guy starts drinking. I saw that, and booze. You know, not just, like, these breezy, fruity drinks. Like, once he kind of turns it up, that's when his dart game.
Starting point is 03:43:00 I did see that tweet. I did see that there are some people that believe that about darts. I happen to have a friend who is a semi-professional dart player, and his entire mission is to get hammered before it starts because he feels like it's a little looser. Yeah. now granted he made to the finals and didn't know it and he lost
Starting point is 03:43:15 and that's going to happen sometimes just like beer phone yeah I guess people start getting a little hole starts getting a little bigger that way darts I don't know if these pros are playing like that honestly Van Neen looked pretty tight he needs to have it tightened up a little too tight
Starting point is 03:43:28 I thought he's a good player though he knows his time will come the way they stand with that box and then leaning over the problem with Van Neckler's body it's like a athlete it's like a shelf as it's leaning over It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 03:43:44 Van Veen's problem was like he just looked like a dick. It was like, dude, you can be losing and still like try and be a fan favorite. Like he was losing and he was kind of taking a page out of A.J. Hawks book. He was pouting. No, he was.
Starting point is 03:43:59 He was getting a little upset at himself. Finally at the end, he hit one. He was like, oh, I guess I'm still fucking, I can throw a dart still. And people were like, yes. There it is. I get a little moxie. I mean, you saw Littler? Littler was gone fish. man yeah i mean centimeters away from a win and a loss yeah there was a couple van nines that hit the metal and dropped out oh he could have had lit there right there no and like
Starting point is 03:44:21 he would throw one in the announcer back there it is got a good marker now you should should lock this one in and he'd miss again i don't know how he missed yeah and that's when he'd start pat so the marker by the way is a miss right outside and then that's like a target basically because you can either use that but it's there's blood on the board at one point because van vene cut himself on his dart. So then, yeah, the commentator was not happy. He was unbecoming of the dartboard to have blood on there.
Starting point is 03:44:48 Did they switch it out? No, they didn't. I think they asked Littler if he wanted it to be up. Leave it. That is. Once the leg ended, then George Noble called it in. He's like, all right. So, but that speck of blood was on the five pretty high,
Starting point is 03:45:05 and you saw Littler not miss after. I feel like it was like almost, I think they're looking for like that's when the commentators are going at it they were like it's a little off pudding no and one of the guys is like no not at all and then they asked Luke if he wants it's like no it's good yeah it's good it's great it's fun sport it's fun sport once again we don't have money in football so we are exploring the space of everything last overreaction tweet here from a Baltimore Ravens fan I do believe
Starting point is 03:45:34 Justin Beansock at J sock hashtag I don't want to react but thank you Luke Because of you, the Ravens can finally get rid of hardball and cleanhouse, and I don't have to see Falaelae's bum-ass take another snap at right guard. He got hurt last night. Congrats, Tony Diggs. Tomon is still going to be the head coach, and the Steelers will remain mediocre. I like a little positive spin here by the Baltimore Ravens, some of their fans.
Starting point is 03:45:58 We don't know if they're going to move on from Harbaugh. But it did sound like going into the game. There was certainly conversations going to happen on either side if there was a loss. Have you overstayed your welcome? Has your message run dry? Is it time for you to move on? As Schaefter said, if Harbaugh was to be fired, he'd be hired tomorrow somewhere else. Maybe it's time for a new scene for him.
Starting point is 03:46:15 We shall see you, Tom. Yeah, they're not, which is not what they do. He's still employed there. We're in the playoffs. Never lost on Monday Night Football. And then we're off to the race from there. Be a friend tell friend something nice. It might change our life.
Starting point is 03:46:32 We're in this thing together. Congrats to Utah. Andy UCon, man. And Deboat, one of your teams. Thank you. Boat, too. Charged the Eagles. Maybe a Super Bowl for you.
Starting point is 03:46:43 Maybe the debunk bowl. Team all me, team on three. One, two, three. Bye.

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