The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1482 - Dan Orlovsky, Bruce Arians, The 2nd Annual All-Everything DB Team with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview Super Wild Card weekend, talk more about the different Head Coach and GM firings and other coaching moves that have been made, preview the College Football Playoff semifinals, celebrate Hawker’s birthday, and D But gives out his 2nd annual All-Everything DB Team. Joining the progrum to chat about the college football playoffs and the wild card games this weekend, and he is forced to make a case for Drake Maye to win MVP, is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky. Next, 3x Super Bowl Super Bowl Champion, and former HC of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians joins the show to give out his game balls from week 18, go through a couple BS or No BS statements, chat about some of the draft prospects at QB, and look ahead to this weekend’s wildcard slate.  Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome. On this magical Super Wildcart Tuesday, January 6, 2006, this program begins now. Football! This is the greatest, and what we're about to have here, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, in a Monday, is something that we football people like to call greatness. Thursday, college football playoff game in Phoenix, Arizona. I'll tell you what. old miss host in miami old miss being a team that was left for dead yeah oh miss a franchise that we thought we're going to be completely dunzo after this year

better make the most of it this is over your coach is leaving your coaches are leaving your players are leaving everybody's gone well turns out the running back that has four thousand touchdowns who still has three years of eligibility left he's returning back to old miss uh quarterback from fair state national championship Champion. Beautiful school up there in Michigan. They go back to back, by the way. Congratulations. Then we'll talk about that. Trinidad goes to Winidad whenever he's down there in Oxford. He said if he's granted another year of eligibility because of what was happening for one of his years at Farris State where he could potentially be deemed a medical red shirt so maybe he gets an extra year of eligibility. If I was to have another year, I'm not going to buy you. I'm staying right here at Old Miss. Two coaches from the coaching staff that will be leaving Charlie Weiss Jr. and Kevin Smith, who is the running back coach, will continue to coach the Old Miss team.

the other four that were kind of working both jobs, LSU and Ole Miss, will not be returning to Ole Miss for the rest of the run. It's an interesting dynamic what's taking place in Ole Miss. And that head coach, Golding, he might be the one. This guy might be the one. Now, he's got a sick visor with great hair,

seems to have a great disposition, looks like he enjoys having a good time. The way he describes guys is whether or not you'd like to have a beer with him. That is the type of language we like to use whenever we're discussing football players, whenever we're discussing leaders. And this guy's been able to rally the entire squad.

congrats to him and then Miami we've been boots on the ground for Miami now two times down to college station when they were taking on Texas A&M 40 mile an hour wind gusts kind of changed the whole entire game so whoever could survive that game we thought was going to be a very mentally tough team but what was very apparent is it's Miami team's thumping people

and then they got a chance to take it all out on the Ohio State buck guys a lot of people are chit-chat and that's Conte Scott he's a beast didn't win the Jim Thorpe Award but does hit the Jim Thorpe Clean statue pose immediately after a pick in the college football quarterfinals,

but what they did was out physical the Ohio State Buckeyes, and that's the identity. Not only of how I think people would want the Miami Hurricanes Act from down in Miami, but the head coach is like a black belt and jujitsu. Mara Chris Ball has got no time for your games. Offensive linemen loves Miami from the area, speak Spanish to the folks in the area, recruits full-time once to bring to you all the way back,

and guess what? They are. Their style of play is electrifying. The way they go about doing their business is awesome. They'll talk their shit and do their shit, And Carson Beck, their quarterback, if he's going to have time like he did against Ohio State, he's certainly able to make the right decisions. And they got a guy who's Derek Henry in the making and running back in Mark Fletcher.

He can run over whoever, whenever, however. This game, Miami Ole Miss, is going to be an absolutely epic battle over there in Phoenix. And then, Atlanta, on Friday, Big Ten battle to see who's going to be representing the Big Ten in the National Championship. A repeat, obviously, this game happened early in this college football season. who, who, who, who, who's just. Won all the way to Eugene and prove to the world that they're a real team this year. And the Oregon Ducks, what have they done since then?

Just fight back, get better. Dan Laining, absolute psycho for football. Kurt Signetti, absolute psycho for football. Both teams built the same way. We're big, we're strong. We use the transfer portal. We certainly pay our guys. We got studs across the board,

and we're ready to roll. This game on Friday night, after a Thursday night college football playoff semifinal, then this game on Friday for a college football semifinal. And then we go to bed and we think to ourselves, wow, football is awesome. It can't be much more, can it? Yeah, Super Wildcar weekend starts.

Two games on Saturday, three games on Sunday. And then a Monday night football little appetizer that's going to be in the home of, Oh, Mama, Mommy Feet for my life from the long home of the long. Houston Texans traveling to Pittsburgh on Monday. That's after everything we already have. Welcome to football heaven. We're lucky to be here. Hell yeah.

The talks of tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, Ty, this is a special time for ball. Yeah, I mean, it's the absolute best. You know, not only are we going to be boots on the ground, which is kind of just a cherry on top, but, you know, everyone always talks about divisional weekend being the best because a lot of times you have, you know,

the best teams remaining. I think you're hard-pressed. You look at really the calendar for the entire year. This is the best week of the year, okay? We get college football semifinal, college football semi-final, all into all these best games. Like, there is no, if you're a,

football fan, really if you're a sports fan, this is the best week of the year, in my opinion. Yeah, I completely agree. Now, March Madness, obviously great for the offseason. Sure. March Madness is fantastic. That is a good time. I would even add in because we got to experience it. NBA, All-Star break, great. All-Star week, great, because behind the scenes, not really on camera. MLB, All-Star Week, awesome. That was pretty sweet. Super Bowl week is awesome. But this right now is a ball lover and ball watcher. Pause. This is the one. what we wait for. And then let alone what's happening on Thursday and Friday

to decide the D1 champs? Sure. We've already had the D3, D2, and D2A champs already decided. Ton, this has been a big week for ball in total. Now, you're a Duke King Duke, obviously. Shout out to the Dukes there. But how about the D3 champs? Wisconsin River Falls.

Wow. They beat North Central, who we obviously know very well. North Central over the last six years has won 96% of their games. Wisconsin River Falls. Falls here. At one point, they were Owen 10. At one point not too long ago, they've never won a national championship before. The other night, they conquer

the conquerors, North Central, who's looking to be back-to-back national champions. And now, looking out for maybe a dynasty down there in Wisconsin River Falls, there is a player that I know very well, and so do you, that started his entire career over there at River Falls. Owen Schmidt, the beer truck. Yeah,

he went over there, demolish him people, demolish them kids, came over to Morgantown, worked as a bouncer at a bar, earned a scholarship became the West Virginia mountaineer legend and icon, and then obviously goes on to play in the NFL. He also does music. He owned a saloon at one point. I mean, an absolutely dynamic human started his entire thing over there at River Falls. He was at this national championship because I put a tweet out about, go luck to D. Bones boys, his North Central squad. And I got a tweet back from Owen. It's like, hey, I'm actually here, where's your, let's

have a little respect here. Congratulations to Owen Schmidt and Wisconsin River Falls for winning their first national championship. Michigan's own, Ferris State. goes back to back in the D2B level. Congratulations, the Ferris State getting the job done. Who's their next Trinidad? Maybe that quarterback's getting plucked to go to some school that makes a college football playoff semifinal like we had seen last year.

And then the D2A team that won it all, Montana State. Congratulations for the podcast. Sorry, FCS team. I do apologize. It is D1. Hard for me not to call it D2, but it is D1-A-FCS.S. Then there's a two, then a three,

and an NIA and Jucco. Okay, I'm trying to keep it all right. We love ball. This game, insane. That was an overtime touchdown that was throwing to Taco Daller right there. It was obviously down six. The extra point for Illinois State

Roald Bird's incredible year gets blocked. So now Montana State's kicker named Miles Sandstead. All he has to do is hit an extra point in front of a bunch of shirtless dudes in a freezing cold. He does that.

Montana State wins a national championship. Congratulations. Yeah. There's ball and guys out there. That's what's all about. They win national championships in rodeo. They win national championships in football. They win national championships and all those things.

I see Duke Kane on their tone. Is that ever going to happen to represent Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania? The Duke's made the FCS playoffs last year. They went out valiantly on their swords this season. They did not. They were not ranked high enough to make it. But they will. They will make it.

We will get an FCS championship out of them. If you looked, all the champions are from northern states. So that's where a ball lives. that's where ball thrives these days, so I'd be shocked if a team out of Pittsburgh didn't win soon. A lot of people talking about the SEC, are you guys okay? Is everything going to be okay?

Stephen A. Smith actually made a good point this morning. He said it's about to be three different Big Ten teams that are potentially about to go now. Okay, now granted Miami, certainly. Ole Miss, certainly. Ole Miss representing the SEC very valiantly. I think that needs, that's a big story that needs to be told. This golden guy has to hold his building together,

but he's also representing the entire southeastern conference at this point. And in Miami, ACC was an afterthought. I mean, the ACC, I can't believe we're letting any team in there. Duke? Yeah, right. That's why we had JMU and Tulane in the 12-team playoff is because how ass the ACC champion was. So Jim Phillips was sitting over there, the commissioner of the ACC, staring down potentially no ACC teams in a college football playoff.

And then there was a big conversation about, well, this Miami team, I know they lost early, but this Miami team got all the pieces. They're big enough, they're fast enough. They have dominating wins. Carson Beck's been there, done that. And a college football playoff committee put them in there to represent the ACC, even though they weren't champions as an at-large kind of team in there. And they've certainly held up their end of the bargain.

Shout out to Miami, nine-year NFL vet. Briard County Hall of Famer, Darius J. Butler. Miami and Ole Miss, obviously, final four. So they're good teams. Great stories, too, for all of college. Absolutely. Ole Miss, I think probably has the best story right now because of what's going on with the coaching staff and the coach leaving and the players.

And now you've got five stars transferring from the LIS. you to Ole Miss so I think story book wise probably got the best story uh Miami if you look that I'm glad the committee actually noseball and they led them in and they were the one lone ACC teams but I feel like Miami kind of has their own brand even separate from the ACC and their glory days you know you talk about the Hall of Famers and the legacy there and then on the big 10 side that big 10 kind of dominance just keeps going on Indiana clearly I think right now the best team best coach team in the country in Oregon you know only given Sunday they can do their So I think we've got a great final four, but, yeah, you know who I'm rolling with.

Well, Miami's supporting the entire thing, too, where it's like, hey, conference champions can't get in. You know, like, we almost left, or not we, the committee almost left Miami completely off of the table. It was almost under dame. JMU was in. J.M.U. was in. Tulane was in. Tulane was in. Like, Miami is the example of exactly why you have to change the entire bidding, you know, situation with the CFP. Yeah, I love this Miami team. I watch this Miami team, boots on the ground. We'll be able to do it again. Obviously, we'll be doing the field pass from.

both of these games on ESPN2. You say Ole Miss is the best story in college football. I think right now, if you were to zoom in, the best craziest story is certainly that. But if you were to zoom out in a big way, what's happening here in Indiana is crazy. It's absolutely. First ever Heisman winner. First ever, first ever,

number one overall pick. First ever, first ever, first ever, first ever, first ever, and now they have a chance. They're knocking on the door of a national championship appearance. What Signetti has done to this entire state, obviously this university, but also college ball as a whole is give a lot of people hope that if they have the right boosters, they have the right people behind them, and they have alignment from the president. President Pam Whitten is a ball lover. She is, we are going to try a win ball,

yes. And then you have a head coach and an AD. They're also on board. And you get the right people. You can flip something from nothing, literally, to maybe a national champion in two years. That's kind of the upside of this modern day football that we have for college ball. That doesn't get talked about. A lot of things get lost in a sauce. Transfer portal is a bad time. It is. Contracts are out of control. They are. Coaches having to leave certain times. It is insane. Bad, bad, bad, bad. There's a lot of bad, bad, bad, bad. Good, good, good. Indiana can now thrive as a football team because it can provide the amount of money to be able to get some recruits that they need when every other recruit in the history of football

would have went to another school that they could have potentially got to the NFL for. Now you got Fernando Mendoza going to Indiana potentially over other schools and big names in the past because maybe they were able to offer a little bit of a sweeter deal. Maybe because the business is a little bit nicer down there in Bloomington. They were able to bring in Pac Coogan, the center from Notre Dame. Maybe because the boosters want their football team to be good, it's a good thing for ball as a whole, not just a bad thing that always gets brought uptown, Diggs. Yeah, I agree a thousand percent. And this year in the transfer portal, IU is doing it again. Them and Texas Tech are dominating. And I like how you said it, and Dba too. Like when you look at it just in a vacuum

right there, yeah, Ole Miss and what's happened with Lane and everything like that. But when you zoom out. IU before SIG got there 1 and 8, 2 and 7, 0 and 9 there was a 5 and 4 in there, 2 and 7, 2 and 6, 1 in 7, 2 and 6, 0 and 8, 1 in 7, 1 in 7, 1 in 7, 1 in 7. Like insanity, and SIG comes in there, back to back, here's goes to the playoffs. They have a chance to be the second

team ever, I believe, to go 16 and 0 in college football. The last time was Harvard in like the 70s. This is, and I'm trying not to be like just in the moment. This might be the great one of, if not the greatest sports story of all time

what Sig's done at IU and the run this year. People are saying like Ted Lassow type shit here for Signetti. You are talking maybe one of the greatest coaches in the history of sports when it's all said and done for this pie's on that's living down there. Yeah, in all sports like you mentioned, and just professional or amateur. You can lump him in with

guys in the NFL, with other sports like that, but the coolest part with the transfer portal that, you know, maybe with all the negativity around it, which of course there is, but the cool part is it separates the great coaches from the good ones. the good coaches from the not-so-good ones. You could argue that Texas Tech is primed for Joey McGuire

to be in the consideration of one of the great coaches in college football because if they can continue to do it, Signetti in three years has gone from JMU to, hey, this guy's the best coach in college football. That is nuts, and it's all because of the trans reporter. It's not just like his talent evaluation is part of coaching, getting the most out of people. I mean, I don't want to continue to point at one particular place,

but it is going to be kind of the example that people use whenever they say, yeah, money doesn't mean you, Florida State, okay, look where Florida State was, should be in the national championship conversation, should be in the tournament, their fans felt that way, a lot of injuries at very key positions, obviously it ended up working out how it ended up working out. Florida State people still hold grudges against people for that particular moment, but then it's like, all right, you've got a program built, you're there, let's do it again. They spend money on the wrong particular fit in DJ Ouyangalou, and they go right into the shitter. So it's not just that you have money, okay? Certainly having money is a necessity

in this modern football, but it's like, to your point about the coaches, being able to pick the right people and coach these people while they're getting paid millions, hundreds of thousands of dollars, managing egos. You're right. I think the coaching aspect of it is having a light shined on it brighter than ever. And we haven't even talked about the team in Eugene, Ty. Yeah, exactly. And I think, you know, they have a lot to kind of look forward to this year as well because last year, you know, Oregon was kind of the best team all year. And then they got flat out embarrassed in the Rose Bowl. And I think, you know, they started to kind of do the facelift when Crystal Ball was there, but like coming into the Big Ten, I think a lot of people

in the Big Ten thought Oregon's going to be, you know, like, yeah, they have the money, they have Phil Knight, they have the nice uniforms and all the different combinations, but their style of play doesn't match any team in the Big Ten. And Dan Lanning has, from the get-go said, hey, we need to get more physical on the offensive and defensive lines. And that's exactly what they've done. And then on top of it, you have the Dante Moore story now where it's like, is he going to be you know is he going to go back if he if they end up winning the national championship like he kind of cements you know his his draft status and he probably goes pro and he could end up being the first pick so like there's a lot of interesting things there and then again you know as a

big 10 guy for for two big 10 teams to meet again in this you know a peach bowl and for it to be a rematch of one of the best games of the year already like you couldn't ask for a better matchup well and that's what's sweet about this you know college football and the parody in it too is like we might never see a Alabama-type run, a Clemson-type run where it's one or two schools, you know, like the thing going around right now is the first semifinal without Ohio State Clemson or Alabama. Like we may never see a run like that again

because of the transfer portal, which makes it so much better. Like we're either going to have Miami v. Oregon and Indiana or Ole Miss versus Oregon and Indiana. Like every single year, kind of similar to the NFL right now, like you have no idea what's going to happen in the end with all these teams. Now, granted, we had Ohio State and Alabama still in the quarterfinals, but ratings up into the right, way up into the right.

The New Year's Eve game was up like 30-some percent or something like that. Now, is that mean people are getting more used to kind of the schedule? Because last year kind of got dropped in on them out of nowhere. I don't know how many people were really pounding the drum every single day that the college football playoffs are about to happen out of nowhere. Hey, yeah, it's been three weeks, three and a half weeks. There's a huge game tonight. I think people are kind of getting used to it. They play the song more.

They actually got rid of that The song is dead What? Yeah, I'm trying to buy the rights to it I'm trying to buy the rights to it Beethoven, suit them Why don't we just make our O? I think we already have one recorded

We sang it how many times So we'll just whip that Yeah, you're right We should just do that But on that note, it did feel as if there was a lack of people knowing last year that the college football playoffs were happening

This year, you know, obviously second year people were a little bit more comfortable but the number's way up and to the right for football as a whole college football for sure. And I think what they're going to see from these two games is good football much. I think good football is about to be on display. Absolutely. The comment just mentioned it.

Like for a decade, decade and a half, just Bama, Georgia, Clemson every year. You kind of definitely get tired of that. So to have this final four and these stories, all four of these teams I feel like have great stories. They got completely different stories, different style players, different coaches. I can't wait

for these two games back to back. And then, obviously, whichever natty we get, that would be great as well. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen is a man who has all the right ideas for everything on earth. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback guru for ESPN and football knower, Dan Orlovsky. Yay!

He just went to the dry cleaner. I had to get my suits clean. You know how green he is. Greenie likes me being buttoned up in there when I go in the morning. Just got him done. Just changed them out. Drop them off. Pick them up. Love your people. Family forever. Respect the hat. I like the fact you wear clean suits as well.

Let's talk about these college football playoffs quickly. You know, Oregon, Indiana playing each other. People are saying that's number one and number two overall pick. Now, granted, on what Dante Moore decides to do, there is a chance, I guess he goes back to Oregon, maybe play some more football, maybe does that entire thing. Fernando Mendoza, in my eyes, just from watching the entire season, he's 6'5, 225 to 2.30, throws dots, takes hits, and can run. And then in between the years, he's outrageous. And I've been told he's never sunk the biz at Knicks down there in Bloomington. But he has certainly had beers with the boys. Everything you hear about him is that he's an NFL guy. Now, granted,

he's got a season he's trying to finish here. Feels like Fernando outright number one, whenever it's all said and done. And then Dante Moore, number two. How do you feel about the display here of potential future NFL quarterbacks? And what are your thoughts on these guys' projections going forward? Yeah, the more I've watched Fernando, the more he reminds me just playwise of Trevor Lawrence, you know, big physical, athletic guy. I would say if you don't confuse him, Like, if you don't change the picture on him, if he has a pretty good idea what coverage you're in post-snap, he'll shred you. And that was one of the things that surprised me in the Rolls Bowl was, like, how much zero coverage or man just Alabama lined up and played. And it was just catching throw for him.

He's too smart of a player, but it's been pretty impressive to watch his growth and kind of thriving this year. It's too early for me when it comes to, like, the legit study of these guys to say no-brainer, number one, he's obviously going to be in that conversation. And then I think for Dante, I think for Dante, if you protect Dante more, he's Matt Ryan to me, just so smooth. And I think that's the thing that happened last time they were out, Indiana out at Otson was just, they made him uncomfortable. And he never allowed to play in rhythm. If you allow Dante to play in rhythm, he'll cut you up pretty good. And so that's the advantage that Indiana has. You know, I'll be interested to see how Dante and that offense performs.

Does it change his, at least potential plans if he has them? I had heard yesterday from somebody that has some interest in it that they thought he was going, you know, and felt confident that he was going to go. That's hearsay and what that group of people believe and whatnot, so we'll see. But I do think that both of them have really high-end potential to be first-round picks. I mean, there's numbers floating around for quarterbacks right now in college, like $5 million, $5.5 million. dollars. Do you stay at the place you're at $5 million, build up

your resume, build up your confidence, build up reps, build up everything, and then go in the following year. I mean, that's on the person to decide. Obviously, that's for them to choose. And congrats to them being in a position to be able to do that. Fernando, brother, you said, you talk about his cover zero awareness. Penn State,

game winner, cover zero. Iowa, winner, cover zero. And he even told us the other day that he's in the middle of a play, and he's like, oh, they bluff me, they got me. And then he's making a decision later it's like he gets it you know like he you gotta mess with them man like you you got to mess with them you got to do some things that are a little bit unorthodox you have to consistently change the picture on them you guys have heard me say this i think there's two ways to really impact quarterbacks you either speed them up or slow them down and right now you're not really

doing either to fernando and i think the best thing that oregon can do knowing how good indiana's offensive line is it's like you've got to try and slow him down you have to to get him to second guess what he's looking at. He's, I'm telling you, this is a generational guy. I think he's generational. That is how I am describing Fernando Mendoza. Not just because the way the ball comes out, the way he's built, 6-5-2-30.

I mean, that is exactly what you want. He can't run, he just got the edge on Alabama, okay? That's an SEC team. He gets the edge, picks up the first down. But in between the ears, he is a Sunday guy. I mean, it is, no question is. Plus, he's having beers with the boys. It's like everything you want, basically,

in an NFL quarterback from what we've learned about Fernando Mendoza, he is. And it's like, I don't know how many of these guys just pop up. I don't know how many of these things are just out there, honestly, roaming around in the streets in 2025. Yeah, we've been to a lot of college football. 26, sorry, Jesus. We've been to a lot of these games.

None of them have looked like that what Mendoza put on display for the Rose Bowl. Even when we watch Will Howard against Ohio State. Yes. What about Stroud? Because you guys talked glowingly about him after that. Similar feeling about Stroud. Similar feeling, but just vastly different.

Like Stroud was moving more in that game against Georgia, which I think made us very like, oh, I didn't know he could run like that with how big he is. We knew he could spin it. Fernando is like dissecting the defense. We talk about all these quarterbacks having their second chapter whenever they're later in their careers. Why are all these guys doing so well? Well, it's because they can break down one of defense is and all these younger guys because the way they've been doing offenses their entire careers, they don't really have to break it down. So these guys with experiences that have been there and done that and know what's happening, they can make the best selection for each play. It's like, feels like Fernando's already at that.

Feels like he is already at the second chapter where he knows what you're doing. His answer to us the other day was outrageous. Every play is a puzzle, basically. He's a nerd. He's a nerd. He's a nerd. Every play is a puzzle.

That's how I look at it. I just got to figure it out. And then, ooh, you got me on that one. Let me go to my checkdown piece that I got right over here. It's like he talks like a 10-year vet whenever he's talking about defenses. So much so people think he's a robot whatever he's talking about.

And to all of this, and then Sabin talked about a little bit going into the game, Bama going into the game was primarily his own team. But Fernando has been so good against Zone all season long off of the RPO's. That was the storyline coming in here. They were like, Bama's going to have to run a lot of man. So then he answers the questions against man against Bama. So now he's great against Zone.

He answered all the questions on the test against man against Bama. So Oregon, yeah, it's in a bit of a pickle here about what to do against Fernando coming into this game. 6.5.2.30. That is just a whole other element and he can move. I don't like the saggy pants he's wearing. but he can certainly move. What's that? Got to blame Adidas.

He won't be wearing those at the next level. But I think he also, you talk about his maturity in between the ears, I think if you're going to get drafted by a team like the Raiders or the Jets, who has been habitually terrible for the last however many years, you need to possess a special kind of maturity as that quarterback coming in. Because a lot of those guys, quarterbacks, we've seen them draft. They just let the situation eat them up. And I think he's shown that he's not that type of guy.

Beers with the boys is a big deal for me, too. That's a whole being a nerd And also beers with the boys That is just a part of the job of being Not saying you have to drink But we need to hang out with the boys Yeah, them all going to New York for the... Yeah, like being a leader

And being a part of the group Is a huge part of being an NFL quarterback It's like everything this guy does seems to be great Orlovsky, your last thoughts on it all Yeah, I think the thing that stands out is nowadays to be top pick And really good in the league You have to be a three tool player

You gotta beat dudes with your arm Your mind and your legs You have to have that capability We see it with all the good quarterbacks Every great quarterback that we've really known and is in the NFL right now, they're great problem solvers. And when you bring up him saying the defense, every snap is a puzzle, I mean, that's, you have to be a great problem solver, and you have to have the tools to solve the problems. And those tools are different for a lot of different guys. You know, they're just different tools. And it looks to, right now, it looks to be that he has all those tools.

And the thing with Stroud is interesting because I think this is for the public. I don't really believe it's going to play a part for the NFL evaluators, but CJ was at Ohio State and a big-time recruit. So it was like, oh, you're the Ohio State quarterback and you are a star recruit. I still think that there's going to be people in the public thinking, wait, this is the kid that went to Cal and then he transferred to Indiana, and he's going to be the first pick. And it's like, if you just took the human, moved them to their traditional powers of college football, they're probably. would be a less negative reception on that thought with Mendoza than it would have been. I agree. First impressions are tough to kind of shake. Now, let's talk about another Cal quarterback that wasn't number one overall that could have been.

Go ahead, Aaron. All right, Tone. Yeah, Dan, obviously, I saw you talking earlier and saying that Aaron, maybe Aaron's best game in his last four or five years, and now he's got the Houston Texans defense coming to Pittsburgh, which if not one, number two defense in the entire NFL. I know, you know, they're going to throw 1,000 passes to

gain well in Warren and they're going to get it out quick. They're not going to let that D-line disrupt the game. But overall, how do you feel about Aaron and the Steelers offense's chances against that Houston defense? And I'll give it to you. We gave you a lot of shit before the season. You were right about a lot of things with the

Steelers. And I just wanted to point that out to you. You're a good man, Tony. I also, I appreciate that. I was wrong on things as well. So don't, you know, I admit that. Clip that. Clip that. Clip that. That was cool. We're just going to pull that. Go ahead. Just for... I don't know who just said, yeah, you were, but... Dude, I would say, my answer for Pittsburgh versus Houston's defense is rinse and repeat versus with any offense.

Houston's defense is ridiculous. We had to do the... We not had to. We got to do the voting for the NFL awards and first and second team. All pros, I struggled to not put six or seven guys on their defense on the first two teams. It's that good. And so one of the things that Pittsburgh has thrived on offensively this year is yards after the catch because they get the ball out so quickly. Aaron knows exactly what you're in. He's going to get the ball out to playmakers in space and yards after the catch. It's one of the best defenses in football and everything, but certainly defending yards after the catch. It's one of the best tackling defenses in football. And so that's the big challenge is the thing that Pittsburgh loves to do and it's really kind of kept them afloat this year offensively is the thing that Houston like dominates with.

They just thrive in it. And so this is not going to be an overly complicated thing for Aaron. He's going to know, obviously it's Aaron. He knows who most people are in defensively. But he will know exactly what Houston's in. They're not, you know, schematically incredibly creative, especially on first and second down. They're going to play four-man front.

They're going to play in quarters. The thing is, it happens so fast. And they're going to have, they got people who can cover, both Stingley and Lasseter can change. Check, D.K. I'm sure it's going to be a great battle, but D.K. is not going to dominate that battle. Petrie's as good as a nickel as there is in football. I think the one thing, the one thing that if you watch teams have some success against Houston defensively this year, you have to take shots down the field. You're not going to hit a ton. You have to. And it's just not something that Pittsburgh does. So I think it's a pretty significant challenge. Calvin Austin will hit the little starter go. DK down the sideline. We would like to let Jensers know, and we've been told that a lot of people

in Pittsburgh watch the show. We appreciate that. We love Jans down there. You need to know that your offense is going to be punting a lot, okay? The Houston Texans bring the boo birds to stadiums that they go to because your offense

is not going to look good. I witnessed it with my own eyes in Indianapolis, and I was like, oh, I didn't even think about this. People, whenever their offense is not doing well, their natural reaction is, that's what the Houston Texans do to your stadium. They bring the boo birds.

It's not just the Texans coming to play your team. It's also the boo birds are coming in because they are going to make your offense look elementary. They've done that to everybody. Seattle Seahawks doing the same damn thing. They will make your offense look elementary. Your offense is just trying not to turn the ball over. Like that is the move.

They're sparring right there. Your offense is not trying to get exposed early in this game. So it's even an idea like, hey, let's not do anything crazy. They're probably going to get a couple three-in-outs on us. They're probably going to get a sack. That's the way it's going to go. So what we're trying to tell Yinzers is, Let's not burn the place down in the first quarter whenever there's not a lot happening on offense.

I know that's going to be hard to do in the moment on Monday night football, but it's like this Texan's defense can get you very, very upset with your team. That is kind of how they've been, Dano. Yeah, they've got the two as two as good edge rushers as anybody, but also in the run game. I mean, Will Anderson is a demon in the run game. Their linebackers are as quick downhill as anybody. And they run through your face.

They're a violent group of linebackers. I mentioned Petrie. Petri is as good as any nickel in football. They're fast, they're long on the back end. Bullock is sensational. Lasseter is sensational. So it's just a very dominant defense when it comes to their individual talent. Boom!

That's what people start doing. We suck. We suck. How is this guy still the fucking coach? That's what they're going to be saying. To be honest, though, they don't move the offense a ton because they're so used to it sucking. Okay, we'll see.

There you go. Texas come in there, and it is fourth and 13. It is. We have not gone anywhere near four. Yeah, there has not been a positive play for a while. Like, there has not been a single, yeah, moment, because they just smother your happiness. That is literally what the Texas defense does. In Pittsburgh's a place, you know, especially Monday night, long day, got out there and made a

gold lot, had a little couple of cocktail or two there. did your thing. Had some Dallas Alice pizza, by far the best pizza in Pittsburgh. Well, work's canceled. I don't know. Works canceled Monday, by the way. There's no work on Monday in Pittsburgh.

It's canceled. Is that real? I just made it real. Holy shit. We need Father Maximilian Maxwell to potentially do that. I think he can kind of do whatever he wants to do. John 316 and Father Maximilian Maxwell really getting a win for the Steelers the other day.

Beautiful thing. Maybe they're the team of destiny, honestly, as we go forward here. But as we do look at you traveling to Pittsburgh, because you're there for the game. People are going to be pumped to hear that. So also, geez, you guys got a lot of heat. You guys got a lot of heat on the internet calling that last game.

You, Lou, Fowler. Yeah, there was a lot of people saying, talk too much, talk too much, talk too much. Three people in there, a lot of takes. Yeah, just a reality. It's a reality. We're going to talk 33% more than other booths. But what people are saying is you don't have to.

You can have the acknowledgement that there is three people and kind of make that decision together. I'm not saying it should be you or. Lou, but there should be maybe be a little bit better of a conversation going in on expectation. That's on you. I'm not a TV producer. I didn't go to broadcast boot camp. But on that note, whenever you're traveling out to, and when that rules analyst talks, if it's that same guy, say, you don't deserve being the NFL. Just say that to him. You should not be speaking for the NFL. Okay, thank you. This is a meritocracy. You get to the league. You don't

get to just be here because you were here. And just because you're on my network that I work on, doesn't mean I have to think you're good at your job because you're not. You are terrible. and you're representing all the fucking ball whatever you speak. You can say that to him. You're allowed to do that. Tone just canceled work in Pittsburgh on Monday. I would like to give you permission

to be able to say that to that guy that we've never heard of before. He's a good man. He's a good man. I'm sure he is. There's a lot of good people getting fired right now because they're ass at their jobs. So, like, he's good guy.

I get it. We need... Super Wild Car weekend, brother, you're on Monday night football. Let's fucking... Oh, that gets me worked up. I don't like these rules. Gene Stereator, that's it.

Gene Stereator needs to be doing it for everybody. I don't know why he's not. Ed Hockely, where the hell did you go? Ed Hockely just wanted to disappear from the limelight. Nobody thought that was going to happen. Why is it his act? They're competing a strong way in competitions. Well, tell him to stop lifting for 14 seconds and break down a play.

You know, that's who we need. This guy I've never heard of popping up on the screen. Well, I think we don't need it, buddy, okay? Unless you're going to be great, we don't. Let's move along. Let's move along. You guys are going to be great on call in Pittsburgh

Hell yeah We don't have the call Troy is the call We'll be their friend I'll be their friend If I'll live Troy and Joe The call

Yeah they ain't wheeling them out Oh my What's your problem Ty What's his deal But if they are paying They are kind of playing them 30 million a year

Each That's what I mean Nothing against them I'm saying They're not Joe and Troy Yeah Joe and Troy Oh my God

My heart's You guys You guys are Your problem Conner For me it's just not that guy It's not that rules analyst guy that's representing

football on the biggest stage like he's not the one with Joe and Troy, right? No, that's why you made that reaction. Which he's on the clock too. Yeah, he's kind of the goat compared to Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was like whenever they had the replacement reps and they're like, you want to, is this

what you want? Is this what you want? This is how bad it? That's a touchdown. No, it's not a touchdown. They used to have John Perry. I think John Perry then went to, um, I think John Perry works for the bills now, I believe. See, John Perry boots on the field. I remember John Perry on the field. I remember

actually getting into it John Perry on the field because he robbed me. The only other way to describe it would be screwed me out of 15 yards on a punt out of bounds. So I certainly, what was that buddy? Because they do this whole thing. And then he had good moxie, good flow. He'd been there. Gene been there. J.P.'s a good dude.

Yeah. I liked. The Buffalo bills are plucking. Okay. What the hell is he doing there? But I think I think some of these officials do this where guys who are ex-officials are in that role, I believe they, I don't know if every organization has them, but they go and work for organizations and they evaluate like the upcoming

opponent's tape when it comes to pay this. We can get a lot of BIs on this team. Yeah, stuff like that. I think something like that where you're saying, hey, this this backside defensive back or something like that or this right tackle. You know, pregame, these coaches have. conversations with officials, look out for this, look out for that. I think that's in some capacity that role. That feels smart. That feels like a good idea. If you're making as much money as these NFL teams are making and refs matter as much as they do,

having somebody to be able to potentially play the game a little bit on your side is a good play. We just hate this. I also think like some self-evaluation, Pat, sorry. Like, hey, just so you know, maybe you're getting away with this shift or this motion or your guys doing this. check yourselves, stuff like that to try to get it ahead of really either side. Interesting because Dionne Dawkins

does the inside hand shop that some refs call holding. I would assume that now JP, who's working for them, talks to the officials and says, hey, this is the move that he does. It is not holding, like, more of a clarity on the entire.

That feels like, you know, the Colts got one of these? Let's not get this guy. They probably do. The bills keep changing rules, got the inside track. Oh, you're saying maybe we should keep our eyes on what's going on.

You can't get a banner. Gumpy is a Dolphins fan. He should not be speaking. Two. We got two. Give me two. Okay. 1772, only undefeated team. That's right.

That's right. Pop the bottles. Still running it. Pop the bottles. Indiana Hoosiers might get you. It's prime for Josh this year. Indiana Hoosiers might get you. It's prime for Josh. Hey, in Pittsburgh, though, you need to go great Italian culture in Pittsburgh.

That means there's a lot of pizza. There's a lot of great food. Beautiful culture everywhere. And whenever you said you did not know Pittsburgh had pizza, like this. We're there Monday for live if you want to have on set, taste test, I'll volunteer. Interesting sentence there for the second one. But yeah, a lot of

different pizza, a lot of different opportunities. We'll make sure some Dallas salad pizza will be delivered. That's the best in town. That's the best one you say? Yeah, no questions. Dallas. Yeah. Now granted, did I work there and grow up with the family? Sure. So is that a little bit biased opinion? Of course. But I will say, Dallas

Alice Pizza, certainly phenomenal. That's the place. Okay. That's my place. Augie's currently running this place alongside his mom. still doing it back there. Shout out to Beth. We love the entire squad. Love the family. That's what you're looking for. Meat lovers. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. That's everything on there, pal. It's a good piece. It's not the best. I have it on good.

It looks much better than it did in that first photo. That looks good. I don't like the photo choice for the Dalai Sala pizza that they used on the graphic. Terrible. Look like a piece of cardboard. It did. And I don't like that at all. But you can also buy it half-baked, so it does kind of look like that. So then whenever you get home after a long day, you pick it up half-baked. You put it in the oven. Now you've got oven-baked pizza.

the old taking care of people, you know, because that's a working class pizza. Mama Marlato loves the half bake. Oh, who does it? Who does it? Good people love the half. Go ahead. What is, I have a couple questions.

So one, what is Pittsburgh, at least pizza style-wise, is there in differentiating thing? Like, are they famous for thick, thin, stuff, gross, all that? And then what do we like? Like, what kind do we like? Go ahead, Tone. Tones about the slander, you know, our friends in family. No, no, no.

I would say Pittsburgh, like, obviously, New York, you know what a New York slice is. Detroit's got its own pizza. You guys up in Connecticut, have your own style. We are just hard. Chicago. Chicago. I got a direct message from someone that says McAfee's pizza sucks. Yeah.

Who said that? Fuck, they don't want to say that to Dallas House face. I'm going to let you know that right now. I didn't say Chicago because I don't respect. Who said that? Vince what? Vince, I would like to know names. I don't know.

Vince Vaughn. Okay. Well, Vince. It was probably the owner of Vincent's, which is a solid pizza. Great pizza is. I'll tell you what, Vinny doesn't do a bad job on pie, but now he's relaxing. We kind of adopted all the pizzas, and then whatever shop you go to is kind of a style from potentially another place. Like, my favorite is Fiori's, which is more of a New York style pizza.

Pat's favorite, obviously, is Deliselles, which is a square pizza. Everyone's got their different ones. There's even one where it's cold cheese. I don't love that. That's called Betos. But there's a, I mean, there's a, if you like pizza, it's got something for everybody. Whatever you like. Rock away?

Rock away? Yeah. See, no, but just make sure it's an Italian name. Okay, just make sure it's Italian name. To borrow. I don't know. Yeah, boom. Bang.

Don't do that. Talk about a New York flight to go. Don't do that. Okay? We're not doing Fazalini's either. We're not doing any of that. Okay. O.G.

Pittsburgh, Dan, I don't know if it still stands, but like the densest per capita of Italians in a city in the world outside of Italy was like Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. actually. Italians everywhere. I mean, all of them. They're all Italian. This is Anthony De Giulio. This is Franklin Nicholas Morales.

This is, I mean, these are, you know, like this. I think Phil's even Italian. That's why it gets so tan in the entire thing. His last name was Mains or whatever. It's like everybody around me growing up was basically Italian. And it's it. When you move out to Indiana and there's none except for Andretti up on a sign of him, it is a culture shock, I will say.

It was a little bit of a wild time. I love Italians. They're the greatest. I love Italian food. I love Italian food. got to go to Italy. That's my number one place that I want to go to in the world. Just got to Pittsburgh. You're going. You'll be there. It'll basically be the same damn thing. Okay, let's talk about the Super Bowl. Where's it at? San Francisco. Okay, can't wait to see who gets

to Santa Clara. We got Aaron, obviously, taking on C.J. Stroud. Both of those guys have won in the playoffs. Feels like there's a lot of inexperience in the playoffs happening right in front of our eyes. Maybe the dawning of a new day in prime time. Go ahead, Dee Budge. Absolutely. And this weekend, we got super wild card weekend. And we got four quarterbacks looking for their first playoff win. Drake May, Bryce Young, Justin Herbert, and Caleb Williams. Who do you have most confidence in getting their first playoff win this year? Well, this round, I should say. I think Caleb and the Bears Packers game just feels that there's a good shot for that. I think the world of Green Bay, but that game's

going to come down to the final three minutes. Can Green Bay? Can Green Bay? defense, the last time we saw them out, at least with their guys, they got ran through by Baltimore. Obviously, that's the trademark of Chicago's offense is their ability to run the football. Debutt, you would know this, but I just think one of the things that makes it so challenging is, like, everybody's got to tackle, and then that creates those downfield shots for Caleb. And so Caleb, there's still moments of inconsistency and head scratching misses at times, but he makes big plays down the field when they present themselves. And so I think that Caleb's got a good shot because of some of the injuries and, again, just the challenge of playing them.

I would also say this. I think the Chargers Patriots game is a very interesting matchup. If we just look at New England and the Chargers and we say, what's the weakness of the Chargers? Because of injury, you'd say the Chargers is offensive line, right? Just not an offensive line that is healthy enough. what's the weakness of New England? Defensively, it's their ability to get after the quarterback. And so I think maybe that kind of contrast or mitigating

kind of leans to the potential for the Chargers offense to have some rhythm. And then I would say the second thing is this Chargers defense is different, man. I think it's one of the five to six best defenses in football, certainly one of the best in the playoffs. And I just don't think New England offensively has dealt with a defense like this one. Really good edge rushers.

Derwin's outstanding. Speed at the linebacker position. Coverage that's very good. Well coached. And so I can see Herbert and the Chargers. I don't know where I stand pickwise yet, but I think that's a really interesting game. I'm fascinated by the Chargers as a whole, you know?

Because I like their building. I like their coach. I like their culture. I like everything that's possible. But can they ever really get it done? I guess we shall see. And then let's go down to do. Vol. Another great story coming out of this weekend. Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Dana, why do you think that the bills are favorites going to Duval? I mean, we've seen what Jacksonville's done over the last several weeks, and I know they love it that way. We've already heard Liam Cohen kind of mention, like, hey, we're home underdogs, so we got everything we need. But why do you think they are underdogs at home, especially what we've seen out of Trevor Lawrence as of late? And how do you think that game's going to go? won the quarterback too

Buffalo is really good I mean Josh Jacksonville Jacksville's really good too well you know you don't know who they are you know how to believe you don't know

you don't know Sean Mark you hate Trevor Lord I want to let you know Dan we had a full conversation out there where I said we're not going to be rude to Dan Rolovsky today

it's 2026 we need to be nice the door what went out the door well you start talking about it lack of Italians in Pittsburgh

certainly it's going to start Grasiggo you know all that stuff but whenever we talk about this whenever you say Buffalo Bills are a really good football team. It's like, yeah.

They are. Why are they favored? And I said, one, they have the best player in the playoffs. Two, they're still a really good football team. It's not like Josh Allen's going down there playing by himself. They have the leading rusher in football. They have arguably the best offensive line in football. They have the best right now coverage unit in football.

And so there's a lot of really good stuff with Buffalo. And that's kind of why I said a couple weeks ago, like, let's move on from this. Does Josh Allen have enough? Yes. Boy, you said best coverage unit? Better than the Texas? To my kickoff coverage? Yeah.

What are you talking about here, you know? Pass coverage? I mean, right now, right now that secondary is playing at a very high level. Very high level. Wow. Houston? Yeah, Houston. Seattle?

Well, Houston. No, Seattle's secondary. No, no. Some of Eunice out there. Jacksonville? They're not as good. Secondary-wise as Buffalo? No, there's not as good as second.

Buffalo? has been fantastic the last six weeks. All right, I trust you. I trust you. But now, whenever you say that, that's acting like, you know, like whenever you say they're a really good football team, is that the reason why they're favorite a guy? You're kind of saying, like, Jacksonville, not a really good football place.

You know, just whenever you use that, I don't have to pull one down to put up the other. It's like, well, you kind of do whenever the question is, why is one favored over the other? And you say, well, one's really good. So what would that be? No, I said, the quarterback, and then Buffalo is a really good football team.

So that would indicate that Jackville is not. Not a really good football team in the quarter. Buffalo got league rush to the league. James Cook is on the way. Who is the number one rush defense in the NFL? Who is it? Oh, Jacksonville. Jacksonville.

Who can't stop the run? Who's that? The bills. Oh, okay. Who can't, who's not a very good run offense? Jacksonville. Who runs a lot, Trevor Lawrence. There is.

You're holding the bill's water again. I'm happy we got to that. That's the weakness of the team. They're not a very good running football. team. Have you had eyes on Jacksonville? Have you had eyes on Jacksonville? You know that answer. In real life, have you had eyes on them? Oh, see them in person? No, I've not seen them in person, no.

Okay. So I can see how you can say eyes on, like, film, I get it. But like whenever we saw them, take on the Colts. And it was without dimes, obviously, so it is what it is. But it's just like, they're gigantic. They are all massive. They're all very fast. And people are wide ass open. This guy should not be allowed to have the ball on offense. Parker Washington, I believe is his name. He's a returner. Great returner. And Liam finds ways to get

in the ball in space. It's like, this team is unbelievable. Like, I think a lot of... It's really good. A lot of people are very excited for Jacksonville this year. You know, obviously they had to Blake Bortle's run. Whenever they go up to New England, take a knee before half, they could have continued to step on the throw of the Patriots. Second half, they collapse. Everything blows up after that. Literally, everything

blows up in Jacksonville. And then way before that, yeah, Brunel was spinning it. And obviously, Fred Taylor, absolute dog for that team. But like this one feels like the realest that Jacksonville's ever had. And it's just year one, hopefully, of what it is. You know their defensive coordinator? Paisan.

Anthony Campanella. There you go. Yes. Did you see the tweet that Nick just sent you, by the way? We are, Pittsburgh is the number one Italian per capita world place outside Italy and no world. It makes sense. So go ahead and eat up over there, Dan. Logger sandwiches, too. Really, so he's whole Italian

hot, how you do, how you doing, keep moving. Here's a lot of small words that you're saying numbers a lot of Italians, a lot of Italians in Pittsburgh. About East Coast. Last question, yeah, yeah. The Italians say, is water here? And they put roots down and they don't leave. Yeah, unless they're forced to.

And then Chicago happens. You're going to go to your mom-paws house every Sunday. I think my grandmother, my grandmother, I think, was like, maybe off the boat, Italian, Montanero. Oh, so you can say it then. Oh, say what, Connor? Geez, he's from Boston. That's complete opposite there.

You know, that's kind of an Irish run town with Italians there. Pittsburgh Italian run place with a lot of Irish there. So that's kind of the, yeah, yeah, that's the reverse there, you see. We should actually have the Italian horn as a logo like the Celtics have, you know, the three-leaf clover or whatever, if we really wanted to accurately depict what the Pittsburgh was and what Boston is. All right, last question here. Speaking of Boston, let's go up there. Go ahead, con man.

Yeah, Dan, look, there's no winning in this MVP, you know, talk. I know you've probably seen it on the internet, no matter what, no matter who you say you're going to get shit for. I even just laid out the reasoning for Matt Stafford yesterday, and people assume that I thought he should win the MVP. Obviously, as a New England Patriots fan, I believe Drake May should win the MVP. Matthew Stafford currently minus 180 at Draft Kings, the best sports book on the planet. Drake May plus 150. That has switched over the last couple of weeks. You know, Drake May has been the favorite, then Stafford.

Currently, Stafford's the favorite. I would actually like to give you the chance here to explain to everybody why do you think Drake May does deserve the MVP? Nothing about staff or nothing about the debate. Just talking about Drake May, why do you think he deserves to win the MVP? He's squirming right now. He's squirming. No, this is my favorite moment for Connor because he's not trying to make me look like a...

What's that? Oh, are we about to fudging say something there? Dick it. Yeah, sound like you were about to fudging let one slip. I would tell you that number one he probably did as much with as little as anybody in the NFL obviously there's not a ton of stars on New England

I think Steph's had a fantastic year I think Steph is in the running for at least on the field what he's done, comeback player of the year Hunter Henry is another big time player Hunter Henry quietly has had statistically I think like a top 30 season in the history of the NFL a tight end.

Pretty good. Career. Top 30 career type stuff. Josh Me, Daniels is great. The two backs as patchcasters, but they're not like these bona fide stars as a Puka Nakua is or Devante Adams. And so to have the season he's had, without the no-brainer first team all pro or second team all-pro guys,

it speaks to how well he's played. Number two, to take a team that didn't have high expectations, and obviously earn the two-seat, earn the two-seat. earned the two seed, and the playoffs speaks volumes to how well he's played, and then three, and this is where I would say, Connor, this people aren't going to like this, but this is just truly how I feel.

I honestly believe, unless you've watched just about every single snap of these guys, I think it's really hard to make a fair judgment. And I promise you, there's not a lot of Patriots fans who have seen just about every step of Stafford, and there's not a lot of Rams fans that have seen just about every snap of Drake, May. What they've asked Drake May to do just when it comes to the control of their offense

is pretty significant. And that's why you've watched this kind of climb steadily throughout the season, not only performance, but warranting very much so being at the top of that MVP conversation. Hell yeah, Dana. We appreciate you. We know you have a vote. We know you put it in, just like tone did. Odds have been taken away from draft kings because the votes are already in so you can certainly tamper a little bit. We can't wait to see who wins all these awards. And obviously being in the conversation is a great thing. Anytime we have a conversation with you, we appreciate the hell out of it. We love you, Dano.

Love you, too, boys. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Danilovsky. There you know. Had a seatbelt on in the parking lot. When he's driving, he doesn't wear it. You know, I think he's probably been yelled at before, like, hey, if you're going to be in the car, put a seatbelt on. He was like, all the time.

And they're like, yes, all the time. They parked it, and he was like, keeping it on. You know how he doesn't really wear it? Oh, yeah. Because that thing's coming. We got to, you know, he probably doesn't even know. No. Somebody should tell him, he probably doesn't even know he can lift that thing.

Crazy. It's all right, Dana. We love you, man. We love you, Dan. You know what else we love? What's that? That is also happening right now? Women's College Hoops.

Okay, listen, I know nobody would expect us to be a women's college hoop show, but we certainly are. We caught the fever whenever Caitlin Clark was playing at Iowa, and Angel Reese was down there at LSU, and Dawn was doing her thing in South Carolina. It was like WWE mixed with wild hoops at the same time. Caitlin obviously comes here to the fever. changes the dynamic of our entire city. Excited for her to get back healthy. We took our show to Iowa for the first Friday of March Madness to celebrate the women's basketball team

as opposed to the men's team just to celebrate it all. So we are fans of the game. And this year, there's six teams that seem to be in for the natty. Now, Yukon, dominant yet again, Dee Butt. I didn't know this. Yeah, you can't talk about women's basketball without talking about Yukon, one of the greatest dynasties ever. Sarah Strong is keeping that going.

Defending champs. Obviously, she got one with Page Buckets last year. She's only averaging 18 points, eight rebounds, four and a half assist, three and a half stills on defense in the block and a half while shooting 58% from the field. And also her running mate, Azee Fudd, who's leading the nation probably in three-point percent of shooting 58 percent back there. 48 percent, I'm sorry. Guy, Yukon, always good.

It feels like South Carolina, always good. LSU, always good. What's that, God? Yeah, actually, you know, they started out 13 and O this year, and they've done. drop their first two SEC games. A lot of people saying, wow, is Kim Mulkey lost your fastball, or is it just because that rat bastard laying Kiffins?

No. I didn't know what people were saying that. We can't talk women's college hoops without talking about my favorite team, the sixth best odds. Let's go out to Ames, Iowa, shall we? Foxy. You don't want to play your best basketball in January. You don't want to be a monster in January. You want to be a monster

in March. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're about to get cooked by all he Brooks, walking, talking, but it has you shook. That's how he crooks. Oh, you're about to get books. By all you cooks, walking, talking, but it has you shook. That's how he brooks. Cook, scopes, close, so, so, so, so. You know, you're going to be able to get in the pain, make it faint, number strange, she's

and you wank up. Oh, you're about to get cooked by how it crooks, walking, talking, but it has you shook. That's how it crooks. Oh, you're about to get cooked. My heart is, walking, talking, look, it has you shook. That's how it cooked. Come on. Yeah.

Come on. What? You're about to get cooked. My Audi crooks Listen, I'm a huge fan In the way she operates Huge fan She just gets buckets

Oh yeah That is literally all she does And did I know anything about Iowa States women's basketball team ever? Nope, but Audie Crooks highlights Papa Myalgo and I say boys Immediately I'm making a song We're making a highlight

Because people are trying to take shots at Audi right now ESPN's TikTok What? Yeah, they're like Baylor exposes Audit's like you better fucking watch your mouth What the hell? Okay? They made a couple shots. There's a lot of good teams. Audie Crooks is going to cook when everybody looks, and that's in March when she's a monster, Ty Schmidt. And you know it. Women's College Hoops runs through Ames now over there in Iowa. No, it certainly doesn't, but I do love Aught Crook. She is a Iowa gal, born and bred, Algona, Iowa, so I will ride with Audie Crooks, regardless of where she goes to college. You're about to get cooked by Audi Crooks. That's cute. That's cute. That's cute. You know who runs March.

She said it. She better back it up. She's going to be a monster in Mark. She's going to be a monster today. Mm-hmm. What a good time. Songs a heater, though. Hi there.

Surprise. 30 for 30 presents Boo-ya. Can I get a witness from the congregation? You can't stop authenticity. Boo-ya. Stewart was exactly like you saw him on-camera, off-camera. He dialed it up 10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls?

looking at that going, I feel seen. He changed the culture. He changed sports. Stream Boo-ya, presented by Modelo, right now on the ESPN app. Football! It is the greatest. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Super Wild Card weekend is coming up in both college football playoff semifinals. Are preceding it Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday are going to have magical football to get us through the greatest weekend of all time.

the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer, Cowboys AP Tonis. Your tone, as we projected the lines, is there anything that kind of sticks out or a little bit unusual at you look at the betting action? For college football, no. I mean, it's pretty standard. Indiana is getting, I believe, 60-some percent of the bets, which is not shocking, just the way that they have looked.

And then the Ole Miss Miami game is a little more even. And I think that's because of the storylines and just how the magical run that both of these two, teams around, but nothing out of the ordinary that I'm seeing with these two games in any situation. How about Super Wild Card Week? Anything we're seeing that makes us go, oh, that's interesting. Sportsbooks, Draft Kings

will certainly like that. Yeah, there's a lot of home dogs in this round of the play. Obviously, you're going to get that when the Steelers in the Carolina Panthers are hosting games as they won their conference. And then there was a flip recently between the Bears and the Packers.

Packers were favored by one and a half. Now the Bears are favored by one and a half. Even though Green Bay on the money line is minus 112, bears are minus 108, so this is basically a true pick them in that game. Okay, so the Chicago, maybe atmosphere turned that thing to them being favors by one and a half. Could you go back to talking about the money line? On Giraff Kings, Money Line, just straight up pick for the Green Bay Packers is minus 112, you said?

Yeah, last time I looked, yes. And Chicago Bayer's Money Line pick, just picking them to win, is minus 108, which would say that the Green Bay Packers are actually favored to win that because they're taking a little bit more off of your bet if Green Bay wins as opposed to the Chicago Bears. That means they think that Green Bay is more likely to win because they're taking on a bigger risk whenever you're taking that bet as opposed to taking the Chicago Bears in their eyes. Then whenever you talk about the spread, then being minus one and a half, I believe that is before it flipped or is it flipped again. Has this flipped again? It has flipped again? Okay, just flipped yet again. Okay, so this thing

is dancing back and forth. The Green Bay Packers now favored on the road. This could be a big bet coming in. This could be monitoring or something. This could be an injury up. This could be literally anything. You're talking about a true coin flip, it feels like, is what Draft Kings is saying. And during the regular season, it was split outcomes anyways. Ty, how does this make you feel about what's going on with the books?

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't surprise me with how banged up the Packers are as well. But like you said, the two games during the regular season, like they were both incredibly tight. First game Packers won 28, 21, and Caleb Williams threw an interception on, you know, their last play of the game essentially. And then in the second meeting, you know, the Packers kind of dominated the first 55 minutes of the game or so. And then the Bears score a touchdown. They obviously recover the onside kick, score again going to overtime and win. So I would say, I mean, it makes sense. You would think that the Bears, this is a very close matchup between these two teams. And they obviously know each other very well. But it would make sense that

you would give the slight nod to the Bears being at home. How do you feel about this one, nine-year NFL vet, Darius Jay Butler? You got Caleb obviously playing his best ball that we've seen him play. And then for the Packers, there's still a lot of interesting conversations happening around their entire operation over there. Absolutely. Health is always critical when it comes to these games. That's why you see all these different teams and coaches rest some of their star players. And Todd just mentioned a bunch of their key players are banged up. Obviously, probably going to be an all-pro this year. Michael Parsons, this is where you're going to really miss him on that defense side of the ball. I'm kind of lean in Chicago, even though

this is Caleb's first, you know, playoff atmosphere. He'll be a first for a lot of different things. He'll be at home. He's still not necessarily hitting the singles yet. I would say he definitely has that home run hit in the ability. The run game, he has a lean on defense. They're going to get the turnovers to set him up, I think. So, yeah, I'm leaning in Chicago. And there's a lot of pressure.

I'm hearing some rumblings with Matt Lefleur on the sideline, too. So Ben Johnson is obviously very comfortable. So, yeah, I'm leaning to Chicago on this one. Hold on, but I heard there's an extension coming. I mean, there's been a lot of conversation around Coach LaFleur and what the future looks like. Ty, is that not accurate, I think? Yeah, it is. I mean, I don't know if there's pressure per se, but it's just like, hey, guess what?

You can't lose this one. You know, it's like the Packers at the start of the year. And granted, again, we talk about this with Ballard and Stuyken and the Colts and, like, injuries. Injuries are a very real thing. But when the Packers traded for Micah Parsons, that was like signaling, hey, this is the piece that we need to get us over the hump to go win a Super Bowl. And early on there, when he was healthy and they were healthy, it looked like they were one of the best teams in the NFL and team. But since he's gotten hurt, they've kind of limped. into the playoffs, which is exactly what they did last year. And again, the Packers are one of those

franchises like the Steelers or, you know, one of those, like winning one playoff game or just getting into the playoffs. Like, that doesn't really sit well. They need to win an NFC championship or go to a Super Bowl. So I think if they struggle here, my guess would be that there will be very serious talks and considerations into not resigning Matt LaFleur and maybe getting rid of him if the Packers do lose this weekend. Joining us now is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. is on no sources. That is just our opinions from the situation, or is it from sources? No, not sources, but it's like everyone

who is associated with Packers media, like beat reporters, people who do radio shows. Schneides? You know, yeah, guys like that. Like, everyone is kind of talking about it because that was a big deal when they asked Ed Policy about it at the start of the year, and he basically said so Schneidman asked

Ed Policy at the start of the year. Who said policy? Ed Policy is the de facto he's the president of the Packers right now. He's the owner. Yeah, exactly. facto owner. He's kind of running the show, and he was not committal on giving extensions to both Lafleur and Gudecans. So it was kind of like, oh, okay, he

didn't outwardly say that they're going to extend these guys. So there is room to believe then maybe if this season doesn't end the way that they want it to or expected to, that there's a chance they don't get new contracts. Is that Carmine's boy? That is Carmine's boy. An I make big moves. Yeah, big time. He was the one who basically came in and

put the hammer down to get Micah Parsons. Now, you bring Micah in, you're unbelievable. Micah gets hurt. You don't do his play as well? Is that going to be held against Guth Coons and LaFleur? We shall see. Just like here in Indianapolis, we bring in Danny Dimes. He was incredible. Danny Dimes breaks his leg. We stink. Who do you hold, do you hold that against Chris Ballard? Do you hope for that type of return after Danny Dimes comes back? Are we bringing back Danny Dimes not in a contract? It's like all those things have to happen in every single building. Fascinating

if it happens in Green Bay, because that's a job. Everybody on Earth would want. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is certainly something they want. Joining us now, Ladies of gentlemen, is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a man who celebrated another trip around his son, A.J. Hawke. Yeah. A.J. Hockey! Happy birthday to all who celebrate here on January 6th. It is A.J. Hawke's birthday. We love your buddy. Happy Hock. Happy birthday, Hawks.

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Hawker. Happy birthday to you. Let's go to the Capitol! Hoare! Yay! No, no, no.

That's different January 6 celebration. Ours is always and will always be Hawker's birthday. Happy birthday, Hawker. You look good there on full screen. Want to make sure that happened. Just strictly so that the people could see whose birthday was. Because with all these faces and places, people could potentially be confused on whose big day it is. It's yours.

Happy birthday, AJ. We love you, buddy. Thank you. Appreciate that, guys. One thing I think you mentioned is Bears Packer situation, the robbery, the head coaches. They don't really, you know, there's some weird animosity between those two, isn't there? Yeah, and I like the fact that they've continued the rivalry. Love it.

And the fact that we're getting to experience it in primetime on Super Wildcar weekend on Saturday night is just a special thing. It's a special game. it's going to be a special atmosphere, and the game is going to live up to expectations. AJ, how do you feel about this one for your pack? I mean, honestly, I feel pretty good about it. As long as Jordan Love's health is okay, I understand, like, for Caleb and the Bears, there's definitely, I mean, there's pressure on both these teams. We know that.

It is an added thing with the whole of the floor rumors. I understand that's not, like, we don't have any solid information wherever, but there's always rumblings about that if they don't win this game. But I feel pretty good about where the pack are going into Chicago. go, I feel like they feel like maybe people aren't giving them a chance or people are been hyping up the Bears all year and Caleb and what they've done. So I feel like the Packers are kind of laying and waiting, you know, hopefully have a big game. Let's go around the Super Wild Card teams.

And we're the only ones calling Super Wild Card? No, that's what it's called. No, Super Wild Car Week. I don't know if I've heard. I haven't seen anybody else really said. I've heard it in the past. I don't know if I'm seeing anybody. It's Super Wild Card Week weekend.

It's leading into Super Bowl season. Exactly. It's Super Wild Card Week weekend. obviously. Let's just go around. I don't think either of these coaches are in trouble if they lose. McVeigh or... Nope. No. Canalis. I don't think so. This one, it seems like from what everybody that is following Green Bay is saying, certainly a conversation if Green Bay was to lose this game about the coaches. McDermott, it'll get loud. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It'll get real loud from McDermott. And that hasn't even been brought up or broached at this moment. And we're not calling

for this. We're just saying the reality of the situation. With Josh Allen being the best football player on Earth. An alien is how everybody views it. Buffalo Bills fans, if McDermott can't get the job done, they're blaming him. They're not blaming Josh Allen. They're saying it's him that they can't win. No Patrick Mahomes, no Lamar Jackson, no Joe Burrow, no anything in the playoffs. And you can't get the job done. It's going to get loud for McDermott. And nobody has talked about that at this point. It has also gotten very, very loud for Brandon Bean, at least from the Buffalo people, especially with how the Keon Coleman situation has kind of happened this year with him being a healthy scratch. It's gotten loud for the GM as well.

Shanahan and Siriani, they're both good, right? Yeah. Well, Seriani, they'll ask for Serriani's job, but that's just because it's good. Shanahan, it'll get loud too. They always attack what his record is. They always do that entire thing, and I'm not saying they should without Fred and Bosa on the defensive side. They're nowhere near at full capacity, but it always does kind of get loud for Shanahan if they don't win a Super Bowl. Ain't that accurate, AJ? Yeah, it's definitely accurate. I also think if you lose, how you lose plays a big factor in if they're thinking about possibly moving on from head coach. If you get rocked, if you go out there and, you know, look what happened to

Alabama and Indiana. If you get dominated physically on both sides of the ball, like, people definitely have questions. Yeah, people give up hope. The interesting thing, and I don't want to get too off topic here with Alabama, you look at all the other coaching staffs that are left. They're all Saban disciples. Alabama decided to go away from Saban in their next decision. I wonder if Alabama people are going to be good with that if they continue to not win national championships while Saban disciples win national championships. So these other schools are taking our fucking recipe? They won't. And then there we say, well, we need a guy from foot.

Make it make sense. I don't understand why everybody wants a piece of Sabin's tree, okay? Hey, Sabin's apples are blooming everywhere. These things are great. Johnny Appleseed this fucking guy. Every other school that's good is pulling from the Sabin tree, and then we decide cut the tree down, put a field up, and get the hell on. I bet you Alabama people are going to get pretty loud about that.

Oh, I think they already have. Yeah. I just thinking about that. And then we got Coach Saban, I think, on tomorrow. And I know he's tight with Greg Byrne, who's the AD, and he's very close with the Alabama community and everything like that. So I'm wondering how I'm going to phrase that to Coach Saban. But I thought about this last night and the night before about it all,

just because we're seeing the four disciples. And the way Signetti talked and the way Lannin was talking. They all talk about Coach Saban. He's like, Signetti said, I'll learn more about being a head football coach, all right? And one year was saving than I did the 27 years before that, he said. That's what Signet said about Sabin. So then for Alabama to choose to not go with a Sabin disciple, like that's an actual decision that was made.

And I got disrespectful for Coach Saban. And it's like, coach isn't going to feel disrespected. He'll high road it. He'll be very nice about Alabama and everything. But I like immediately, as I was sitting in my house, that was in a state where it was legal, maybe a little hot. I fired off a text.

I typed up a full text to Coach Saban about, you need to stop going to these basketball games and sit with this guy. Like every other school was looking for you. is basically what they were trying to do in your own school try to move on. I could see that he won't be disrespected by that but it is something that's very fascinating whenever you think about how loud it got with that

and I think it's justifiable. We love Kaelin Bore. I think Kailen Bore is an incredible coach. I like to hire whenever it happened. I thought he was maybe one of the only accomplished guys that could go in and fill the shoes of Coach Saving in Alabama and maybe that's the reason why they wanted to go a different direction AJ? Maybe I'm not a hundred percent sure.

Yeah, I don't know. Usually if like it's still ended well with Saving it wasn't like oh, he was great, and then he wasn't good the last couple years. Then I understand going like, hey, we're going to bring in the opposite of what we had, but no, it was good and he decided to step away, see ya, and yeah, I don't know. I guess at the time, though, it sounded

like it made sense for DeBoer to come in. Yeah, for me, I was on DeBoer's side, still am. But then now we're kind of watching this all trickle and it's like all of these coaches are saying this guy birthed me, basically. Yep. And he birthed this era of Alabama

football. And it's like, why is everybody else wants something that you guys got except for you guys like that could be that could be something now granted

I'm a look for disrespect guy okay I am Coach Saban is not he spends his energy and solutions all problems I'm not looking for

that type of stuff but for that's an I'm excited to hear his kind of this is me telling Jimmy Sexton to go ahead and miss Amy please tell Coach Saban

that this is coming tomorrow okay that I am certainly asking if he is disrespected by the fact that every good team in the country is trying to get a coach Sabin light in there and except for your school was trying to and I love Kaylin. This is not me back handing Kalin the board. This is me watching a Saban disciple,

Saban, a coach at the Rose Bowl with our own eyes right there. Signetti is just dissecting every attention to detail. Every single thing is Sabin's entire thing is attention to detail. It's just like bomb, bomb, bomb. Got a plan for everything. I got a plan for everything. Signetti, hyper like that. Lannin, hyper like that. This golden guy, I have. assume there's a lot of Sabin coming through in his leadership techniques right now. All right. And Christabel, yeah, well, all right. He says, all right.

And Christabel, he gives the way he talks about coach. It's like, that's an interesting decision in hindsight being 20, 20. Especially as having boots on the ground and seeing Miami a couple of times and then seeing Bama just get completely bullied. It's like, okay, you know Christabal and how he designed his team. You know how Sig has designed his team, like just physical. I mean, that's all, that's all we know from, you know, Alabama football. And then to actually see that, like, at that point in the fourth quarter, I was like, damn, this is embarrassing.

Like, these boys laid down. It's one thing to get beat, but it's another thing to just get absolutely punished. So, yeah, it's very, very odd. And the Bama people, to your point, Ty, they've kind of, I feel like kind of been out almost since the day, since the hiring. Like, it was impossible for Kailen to live up to those standards. It would be impossible for anybody to live up the Sabin standard, but just the Alabama standard or even the SEC standard in general.

for Katelyn was tough to step into that. Yeah, maybe not Golding. I don't really know as much with him, but it feels like all three Signetti Landing and Chrysabal wanted to build their own saving type or at their specific schools. Like landing especially, he's been up

for every single job and his whole entire thing is the grass is damn green in Eugene. Cristobal leaves Oregon just to go to Miami because, you know, alma mater, like very much a connection there, wants to bring that place back. In Signetti, I mean, granted a much different situation, him going to IU with the whole entire

Bama job, but, like, IU has gone all in on Cignetti. Like, you wonder if all those guys, all those Saban disciples that are so successful would rather, like, hey, I want to go and be Nick Sabin, but at a different school, not at the Alabama itself. Yeah, taking

over that Bama job at the time, AJ, not easy for anybody. I think, like, literally. Impossible. He's still there. He's still there. Yeah. Statue still, you're playing on his field, he's still there. Okay, and he's talking ball on the weekends and everybody agrees with everything he says. Whenever he goes on and

pontificates about shit, we put that on X obviously and all that's gone. Those numbers are outrageous. And I'm not saying like the numbers matter because only good numbers matter but these are good numbers. These are not like people watching it because they hate it. It's numbers of people watching going, yeah, that's actually

my opinion going forward now. That is how I feel. And he's still doing that on a big stage while this team's happening. So not an easy job at all we're saying. But it's just very weird that everybody else is trying to get a piece, except for whenever they had to make the decision there. Was that disrespectful? God you're disrespectful? I'm kind of disrespected.

You call me one of your best friends. Respect. I view you the same way. I like you did that. I didn't know that that's how we view each other. I'm pumped up about that. I don't know that. And as one of your best friends, I'm disrespected by what's going on down there.

And that's who I'll be in your friend group. I don't know how many of those you have. I will certainly be the one that'll be. You need a couple. You need a couple of those. Yeah, always have been that person in the group. So I'm excited to do that for Coach. Coach, just a good time.

Just wait. You know, just, you won't have to say anything. I will, no, you're probably going to have to say, I don't feel like that. I don't say, okay, I'll be clear. Go take an NFL gig, too. Give him one of these NFL gigs. I want to see him back in the league. He won't, but still.

Raiders. I think he's pretty happy with what he's doing right now. That's his answer all the time. I'm really happy with what I'm doing right now. Him and Ms. Terry going to the Alabama basketball game the other night, just kind of casually sitting. Yeah. Bigburn.

Let me get some popcorn, maybe. Let's do this. I'm going to go golf with the lads. All right. Oh, I'm going to go golf with business partners that are maybe worth a billion dollars like I am. Okay, I'm going to do that. Oh, what are they going to say about Indiana now? Yeah, exactly.

My golfing buddies just had no idea. Tee off the first tee. Alabama should beat the hell out of it. What? He's got a no ball. He might be saying, why didn't we hire SIG? Like, we're having this exact conversation. Okay, so on that note, Sigg and Kaelin-Dabor are similar, right?

small school success, have a lot of success, and then get put into a big position. Like, I think a lot of these rookie quarterbacks, if you see a lot of ball in college kind of put you in a better position, I think a lot of reps at smaller places to get them into those positions. Signetti could have been a guy, maybe,

that fills in those shoes. Can you imagine? And also, like, loves the JMU coach. Loves the opportunity. Oh, my God. No chance. That would have been so loud.

Yeah, DeBore went from a Natty to BAM. Like, he is not as if he went to Tony. he's partly. J.M. This guy was playing in the National Championship. But what we have the beautiful thing of is hindsight. Of course, we do. Great Murray, what are you doing, brother? We need you to be a better talent evaluator.

We need you to know who's the right guy for the right job. Not saying Kailen DeBore can't win at all. We certainly think he can. But is Alabama the right place for Kailenabor and how he operates? We'll see. You would hire, Kail. Me? Those resumes?

Did you see on our show? He said, A.N.C. Double A. Why don't you suck it on our show? I would have hired that. With those resumes, you look at Kayla's record. Like, even going into Washington, yeah, the National Championship appearance.

Like, I mean, if, now, if Signetti was like an SEC guy for, you know, 10, 20 years may be different, but. He's dying in Alabama. Yeah. Yeah, he had a cop. He was a pit stop down there. Yeah, but he's more of a. IUP school program.

Coach Sherioney's dead, I believe, coached. Yeah. That's almost a factory down. There used to be some rumors about IUP about, you know, go up there you might leave with something, you know, good times. I told the boys that. What you mean?

Just good times. You're going to leave a hangover for sure whenever you go up to IUP. That was kind of the rules. I think a couple of those bars are still there, still doing it. And I was up there when I was just a young lad, like a teenager, certainly in there as Jason McAfee,

still doing it. So I think IUP is still bringing it out there. So we appreciate that. Love Ball there at I. Yeah, they love Ball. My brother went to school there. They're known for SDDs, AJ. They were. Not anymore, obviously, to clean that up.

Which we're very proud of them for doing it. How do you clean that up? Well, you know how you clean up. Just people graduate and, you know, now we've got a new group in her. The youngsters, you break the chain. Yeah, don't want the youngsters continue it. You're right. I mean, that was a wild thing just to be, all right, let's move along.

There's a couple Ohio schools that have that same kind of a situation. I think it's a little, I think it's rude to IEP because IUP have had great times up there. Sure. I mean, great times. There was a couple basement frat parties that I was at up there. People I'd no idea who I was. Just terrible sound systems, DJs sweating on top of everything. Just, blah, blah, blah.

It's college, baby. All right. Yeah. Good time's up there. And taking it back to ball. Fernando's living a college life with the boys. Did you hear that, AJ, whenever he said that? I thought that was a big deal for the number one overall pick.

I agree, yeah, because you wouldn't think that. And then I saw the clip of him walking in with the boys to a local establishment. It looked like, yeah, I mean, that is true. Like, you don't have to sit there and go and get hammered. with the boys every single night, every weekend, but it is, I think you need to hang out with them off the field for sure. Team chemistry is built a lot better around a keg than it is kale, has been my saying since the beginning of time. Now, you can change kale out and put maybe another leaf in there, and maybe I would think it's kind of equal, but nonetheless need to be hanging around

the boys. Like, that needs to be something that a quarterback does. You're the CEO of the locker room. That is what your immediate job is. So you got to know everybody, got to have relationships. You've got to take time out of your life to build the relationships. And it's like, I think Fernando has all the pieces. He just got out there about a year ago. Yeah. Hang out with the boys, rally around the boys, everything. It's like, that's good leadership.

I'm excited to see him in the NFL. Joining us now is a man who's known as a quarterback whisper for the NFL. He's worked with every great quarterback that has ever existed. And coach with every coach that's ever coached ball. Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, multiple times Super Bowl champion, Coach Bea. Yay. What's up, boys?

Hey, great to see you. We missed you in here. this morning, obviously, and your vibes and energy and energy drinks are certainly something that we are going to miss for the rest of the way, but we appreciate you joining us here. What I was just saying there about Fernando, how real is that, you think? Being able to hang out with the boys, have a couple beers alongside being 6'5-2-30 and able to break down a defense. What are your thoughts on this Fernando Mendoza kind of sensation and him at the next level,

Mr. quarterback whisper? Yeah, I think he's got all the traits, man, and drinking beer is one of them, especially with the offensive line. Every quarterback got to take care of his offensive lineman, and maybe a top receiver or two. But he's got all the measurable. The guy can spin it. He's athletic. Reminds me a lot of Drake May coming out.

Same height, speed. But, yeah, he can place the ball anywhere he wants to put it. What's the difference between the NFL and college for these quarterbacks? Now, there had been a conversation that all these second chapter quarterbacks that are around the league, we've seen them. Darnold, Baker, Kirk. He just go around all these second chance quarterbacks almost that have had. an uptick in success. A lot of people started saying, well, they've seen the defenses.

They understand what the defenses are so they're able to make decisions. These younger quarterbacks with the way ball is in high school and college kind of slowed down the development of the football IQ maybe. Is that an accurate depiction of what is happening at the quarterback position in your eyes? And do you think Fernando, Dante, any of these guys are maybe getting back to understanding what's happening on the defensive side? Yeah, I think the volume of defense that young quarterbacks see is just so huge. You know, they might see four coverages in college and maybe five blitzes versus eight or nine different variations of coverage and 20 different blitzes in a game.

Mendoza looks like he can handle the pressure extremely well. He seems very bright. Having sat down with him, I'd love to sit down with him, put him on the board and get to know him a little better. But he just looks like he's got the cerebral part down bad. How many young quarterbacks should we see having success in a future? because it has been a little bit of a run here of these younger guys starting to really break out. And you look at this playoffs,

not a lot of playoff wins from a lot of these quarterbacks. It almost feels like we're completely in the dawning of a new era of the QB. Do you agree with that? And how do you feel about these young guys heading into their biggest games that they've ever played? Yeah, I think for sure,

the NFL's in great position right now with a bunch of good young quarterbacks and a couple more that are going to come in next year. But yeah, I think with the playoffs, advantage to the guys who've been there and done it. You know, to Josh Allen's Aaron Rogers. But the rest of those guys, I mean, there's some talented young people out there that can really play. Trevor Lawrence is playing at a super high level.

Caleb Williams is playing a high level. Brock Purdy. I mean, you know, Jalen Hertz's MVP in Super Bowl last year. So, I mean, the league has got a number of great quarterbacks. We're not even talking about Mahomes and the guys that are missing, you know, Justin Herbert's in there. So I think it's going to be a whale of a playoff series. Most important time of the year, most important position in the game. Feels like we got studs everywhere, and the defenses are about to make it tough for him.

Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, B.A., when you're evaluating these quarterbacks coming out of college, I guess, what was your formula? How did you do it? Did that change over the course of your time in the NFL and how you tried to, I guess, predict success in the NFL for these guys? Yeah, for me, you know, I didn't like comparing people, but I love comparing measurables and what a guy, who a guy might remind me of, you know, when I did it for like 20 years and, you know, I'd love to sit down with them individually and get them on the board, talk to them about hot splitzes. Tell me about your offense. Now, if a guy can put his up off, and explain to him what he's going to do versus cover two, what do you do versus this blitz. I want to hear how you handle it. Then we're going to put up, our offense up on the board and talk, talk to them about it. And then out in the middle of the workout, I might walk up and say, okay, it's man, man protection, here comes the weak safety.

How are you going to handle it? And the best two I've ever seen were Andrew Luck and Patrick Mahomes. Peyton was great too, but Andrew Luck, I tried to fool him. He said, no, that's exactly what you said. You're right. You're right. Here's that's exactly what I said. My home's just spit him out.

I was going to slide protection. Here comes a strong safety, fix it. he's throwing the ball, he makes the right call. I mean, in a 15-minute meeting, these guys had it down. It may take some guys two or three years, some never get it. Okay, so my question is, then how do we miss on guys? If that is possible in 15 minutes being able to find that out, why do you think there's so many misses at the quarterback position,

which there has been? Now, granted, as of late, feels like there's more hitting. Feels like there's a little bit more hitting as of late. But there was a run there where we had no idea if the quarterback was going to be good or not. How did people miss and why do people miss, you think? I found sometimes it's system fit and the really shitty team. I mean, if you're getting picked in the top five, you're going to a really shitty team most of the time. You know, you're not lucky.

Like Ben Rothenberger was pissed. He dropped down to 11, but he got on the Pittsburgh Steelers with the best defense in the world. He wins 15 games as a rookie. That was, that showed young quarterbacks. I don't have to go in the top five. You know, that money is not necessarily going to come on his contract. It's going to come on the next one. And, but you get in those teams, and if you don't have an offensive line, so many times, like, you pick this quarterback.

I'm looking at the Raiders right now, and to pick a quarterback to fix them right now, I think would be a bad mistake. You got a hell of a lot of other things to fix. Well, one quarterback game fixes all that shit. And you better get an offensive line in front of this kid. You got a great running back. Get an offensive line. If you can slide down a couple spots and maybe get one that you really, really like a little bit later in the top. five or six picks.

I think Mendoza is generational. You're the quarterback whisperer, so free agency, you can flip an offensive line, too. We saw Chicago Bears do that. They traded for Tony, which was a massive move, pay two other guys to shore up kind of the middle. Ben Johnson says, we need an offensive line. I love Caleb, but we need to do this because our run game's going to be whatever. It's going to be able to protect Caleb. And that's worked very quick.

I mean, the offensive line is like literally the key, it feels like to whether or not you're going to be ass. You know, BA, that feels like that's the biggest deal. Yeah, I mean, but the thing is who's available and you have to have a trade partner, you know, what are you giving up to get those guys? And the Bears did a great job. They, they solidified those, that inside interior part of that offensive line, which they needed to. And that's put them into playoffs. Because Caleb is now not running for his life all the time. He's just running to run and make plays, you know, and he's very comfortable in the pocket because he's got a pocket. You know, these other cats, you know, I think back of David Carr and Tim Couch.

In their first two years, they were sacked 140 times. I mean, Timmy Couch, when I got, he was all broken up by the time I got him. Hell of a player. Was never a bust. Was a great player. He was just torn all the pieces by the time I got him. His arm is about to fall off and as tough as tough as nails. But to get to some of these teams, you know, if I'm a quarterback, I ain't coming.

I pull an Eli, I put an Eli, so I ain't coming. Eli, John Elway, it has happened a couple different times, and obviously what happens around you is certainly very important to how you have success at the quarterback position in football. There's 11 people on the field for a reason, but boy, these quarterbacks take all the blame. And then they get all the credit as well. That's right.

And a lot of the money. And a lot of the money. Okay, let's talk about Ben Johnson. We talk about him being able to share up the offensive line. Whenever he took over the job, everybody thought he was going to be great. This is the bell of the ball. He's turned out to do just that.

This is his first time in a big stage, though. Go ahead, Debutt. Absolutely. So, Caleb, I mean, Ben, obviously it starts with him. You talk about quarterbacks getting a shit beat out of him. Caleb went from taking 68 sacks last year to only 24 this year. But what changes on the playoff stage? I know we all, as players, everything just got faster for whatever reason.

You go from preseason speed to regular season speed to postseason speed. From a coaching standpoint, what changes once you get to the playoff stage, especially with their young quarterback. Yeah, I think it's a level of preparation. You know, everybody's fired up. Everybody's intense. You know, for the Bears, they're going to play somebody for the third time. That's hard.

And but they know each other. Just get healthy, get ready, get a game plan. Ben's always got some surprises for people. But, you know, they didn't just fix an offensive line. They got Swift and they got Romaduzzi and Luther Burden. They got weapons and young tight ends because Ben's, a 12 personnel guy, they got two tight ends that can really play.

I love the Bears' offense when those kids are all healthy on the outside. I appreciate the fact that that Chicago Bears' culture was flipped so quickly. They're not the only ones, man. You know, New England seemingly was able to get back to where they wanted to be. And then if you think about Carolina

Panthers are hosting a damn playoff game. Oh, yeah. There's a lot going on around being Joel Ian Cohen. He was hired late. This guy's not going to be able to hire staff. This guy's, because Bruce Aryans ain't going to let them hire anybody out of Tampa Bay. This guy's not going to be able to hire a damn staff. That's how late it

was in the process. They hire, what, a 21-year-old GM and Stoner? They got no shot, and here we go. Now, all of a sudden, the Jacksonville Jaguars are hosting a damn playoff game, which leads greatly into, ladies gentlemen, it's time for our favorite segment of the season. It's BS or no BS with

BIA. We appreciate the hell out of you, B.A. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Bruce, right right now, there are three home underdogs in the first round of the playoffs, and picking them all to win is the right thing to do. Is that BS or no BS, BA? I think that's no BS, brother. I mean, when you look at the teams that are on Houston, got great defense,

quarterback's playing great. Going to make the road to Pittsburgh, I don't think that's a tough one for him. Buffalo and Jacksonville, that's a tough one for me because Jacksonville is really, really hot, but I'm not betting against Josh Allen because he's been there and done it. And, of course, the Rams and the Panthers, the Rams went out and got him very, Harris and Carolina, I don't see that happening again with that defense and Matthew Stafford playing at that level. I think they're all safe picks. The only one that's really question will be is Jacksonville because Liam's got him playing so good. Okay, so is that supposed to be BS then? It's supposed

to be BS or not? Don't take the road dog. Okay, so the favorites are going to win. So you like the favorites. I like all the favorites. I'm taking all the, I'm going to take all the favorites. Okay, so we got a little bit of a scandal here. So let's go back. That's BS, baby. That's BS, baby. Yes, BAS, baby. That's what that certainly is right there. Okay, let's get to the next one. Go ahead, Tosh, man. All right, Coach, you just mentioned it a little bit there.

Defensive head coaches are all the way back. There will be more defensive head coaches hired this coaching cycle than offensive head coaches. Is that BS or no BS, B.A? I think that's BS, too. Oh! I think the defensive coaches are way more qualified. But the hiring cycle, the last four years, has been all offense. Everybody, I've had two calls this morning, people looking at different people,

and they're looking for young offensive coaches. And it baffles me because when I think of the defense, I've got Brian Flores and Vance Joseph and Robert Sala and Steve Spagnola, just mentioned a few on defense, unbelievable defensive head coach. But the trend, I mean, Kevin Savancy is going to get a job real. fast. I think Matt Nagy's got a shot and you're going to hear his name, Clint Kubiak. And I would think if somebody's smart, they bring back Mike McCarthy. Oh, hell yeah. We think he does want to get back into the game. You know, I feel like he

enjoyed the hell out of his life. First time he's had a fall in, what, 50 years or whatever it was the story. He's got to hang out with his kids. Got to go see volleyball. I love it. There you go. Doc hunting up there with his dog. Gus. Gus, which is an award-winning duck hunting dog in Gus. I think he enjoyed all of that, but he's a football guy through and through. You know, he was excited to get back in there. And I feel like he learned a lot from watching from this perspective as opposed to being in a building. Do you think that's possible with coaches, maybe away from the game for a year, and then you kind of get back in with, I don't want to say brand new, but a different perspective maybe than you had?

Oh, yeah, totally. I did that with CBS after Arizona. You know, I thought my health was not going to be good, and I got it all fixed up and, you know, decided to get back in. And the one thing I decided I was not going to call plays. I was not going to be the head coach and offensive coordinator. He probably would not have taken the job if Byron Lefich wasn't available. And to me, it's still a crime that we're not talking about Barron Lefich in this head coaching cycle. That's the brightest offence of mine I've ever been around. I love to hear that. Byron Lefwich obviously could spin it as well. I've never been around him on a day to day. Toff. Just, yeah. What a name, too. Byron Lefich, synonymous with ball.

I appreciate the fact that you away from it. Come back and say, I could probably be a better leader as a whole if I'm not calling plays in this entirety. You go to Tampa, win a Super Bowl. That's all she wrote. Let's get to the third BS or no BS with BA. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, B.A. Sam Darnold can and will lead the Seattle Seahawks to the Super Bowl.

Is that BS or no BS? I think that's no BS, brother. Wow, baby. I think right now Sam's figured it out. He's going to put a Superman cape on. They got that running game rolling, showed up big last weekend in San Francisco. This may be the facilitator, get the ball out to the right guys,

make some big plays with his legs and he and J.S.N, man, that's a dangerous combination. But when they got that running game going with the defense they're playing right now and then the 12 up there in Seattle, watch out, it's going to be tough. Homefield advantage is wild for Seattle to have. Congratulations to them and McDonald

being able to turn it all around. And Donald spinning it. Biggest game, biggest moment. Donald's throwing dots. Good for Donald. Hopefully they're able to get it done there in Seattle. Obviously, their fan base worthy of being showcased to the world.

throughout the entirety of playoffs. Now, there's a couple game balls we need to give out. You know, in actual NFL buildings, the Monday after games, there are game balls given out on the team meeting. The coach comes in, has these game balls ready. He and the equipment manager have worked together. You read off a list of accolades and he throw it. You know, sometimes back in a room, a little bit of a spain big time.

Catch the energy, obviously fantastic. We want to do that this season with BA. He's done it every single week. That obviously will not change this week. Go ahead with your game balls, BA. Who should be celebrating a huge end of everything? NFL season. Yeah, NFC, a lot of guys didn't play last week, but Matthew Stafford.

Again, put it up, big numbers, three touchdowns, had a hell of a ball game, leading them to a big win. And then in the AFC, it was a little bit harder because he only had one tackle, but Miles Garrett from breaking the sack record. His stat line was one tackle, one sack. That's hard to pay $150 million to a guy for one tackle, but 23 sacks might get it. Hell yeah. A lot of money.

Stop the game. A lot of money. You know, he said, as long as upstairs has the same mentality about winning his B, I'm good, I'm happy. You know, because last year, whenever his contract was in discussions, he put out a whole letter, high-five to the ref there. It's hilarious, by the way. He put out an entire message about how it's not just about being a good player. I won't win games, man.

I would like to win. And seemingly took a shot at Andrew Barry with the way he described getting to Canton in Hall of Fame, almost as if that was a goal for the Browns as opposed to winning football games. then he gets $40 million a year, that seemingly changes. I'm going to be a part of the change that's going to happen here. Then they go on to not win again. It's like, how long does this last? Is Miles Garrett going to continue to be a pillar and a sensation while they continue to lose?

Like Joe Thomas spent his entire career, obviously nobody wants to do that. The Browns are fascinating, B.A., obviously you're up there as a coach. It feels like they have been just cursed. Like they are just going to stink. Doesn't it feel like that with Cleveland? I don't like it. I like the people Cleveland. But it feels like that with the Brownies.

Yeah, they're great fans, man. I, you know, it was with the Colson. We went up there, like, week 16. It was snow and, like, crazy. You don't have to worry about a silent count today. We're in the lock. We came out there as an ass in every seat. It was crazy.

We had to kick a field goal on the last play of the game to win. And then going there and coaching for three years, they had great fans, man. And they deserve more. It's a shame that you can't put the product on the field. It's just been the quarterback issue for years and years. And, you know, why they ever get on Baker? I don't know. Yeah, that was wild.

Eat the Steelers. in a playoff game. Without Svansky on the sideline, he had COVID. The Pittsburgh Steelers are who the Cleveland Browns beat in the playoffs. Get this guy. Get him out of here. All these commercials. I'm about sick of him doing it, Dougie.

Let's get him out of here. Now he's down there in Tampa trying to win the NFC South. Got a nice house down there. He does have a nice house down there. I've seen that as through the Instagram story there of his family as he followed along with that NFC South. You think Tampa's going to be okay? Yeah, I think so.

I think there's been a lot of injuries this year and some things didn't go right in a couple of different spots, but Todd's going to write the ship and Jason Light's going to get another great draft and they'll reload. They don't have to rebuild. All right, I guess we'll just believe it

because you're down there, your closer situation. You're the man. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. You got it, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Coach Bea. Hey, go. The Tampa Bay fans.

we're calling pretty lowly for a new coach dunner. Yeah, real off. Big time. B.A's in a building, you know, as consultant. I think Todd and Jason will get it done. It's like, all right, that sounds like that's what's going to be happening. Right. That division, it feels like any year you could argue that any of the teams is by far the favorite to win it. But what I'm saying is they're not making any changes to do.

That's what it sounds like right there. Oh, yeah. I mean, Shepty kind of said that yesterday, too. But, you know, things could change. Shepty living in his fears in this moment is certainly wild. him getting a whole new narrative or perspective in a city, an entire city just from one text message room,

hey, actually snooping around. Cliff Kingsbury? Yeah, parting away. He's gone from Washington. Add Cliff Kingsbury's name potentially to a list of head coaching things. Well, did he get fired or did he leave? Well, him and Dan Quinn sat,

talked about the future, and they decided to part ways. I guess they disagreed. So now he'll pursue other opportunities. It's like, is he still getting paid by the commanders and by the Cardinals? And is he potentially going to be a head coach now all of a sudden? because obviously what he was able to do with Jaden last year

is certainly going to be a conversation that is going to be brought up during the whole interview process here with a lot of head coaching vacancies and not a lot of head coaching candidates. It's like, so did Dan Quinn tell Cliff, yeah, go be a head coach somewhere else. I don't like what you're thinking. Or did Cliff tell him, hey, I'm going to need more money

because I'm going to go be a head coach. Or did they actually talk ball and Dan was like, I'm done with it. And then defense coordinator comes in, Dan's done with it. I don't want anything. We need to not have whatever happened this year happen again. Fascinating development. Yeah, can you put that tweet up? I'm sorry.

Can you read it? Like how that tweet is worded. Like, he met with Cliff today to discuss the future of the offense after those conversations. So heading into those conversations, what was the thought? That's what I want to know? What was your what did you plan on into this meeting? Were you thinking like, hey, we're probably going to part ways or were you thinking everything's all good? And then

after you talk, you said to see you. Yeah, was Dan Quinn like he's going to have to earn it in here? And then he didn't earn it? And then they decided to move on. Maybe Dan Quinn wanted a different direction. Cliffs like, I'm not going to do that if that's what you want to do because Coach Tomlin multiple times moved on from offense coordinators because he wanted a different style of football to be.

And I think multiple times, he's not the only one. There's been other teams that have done this where the head coach would like a different style of football to be played. You can either do it that way or we'll find somebody to do that. Maybe that's what took place here, I'm not sure. But I think Cliff Kingsbury's name, I'm like, oh, people are going to want him to be a head coach for sure because of what BA literally just said. If you're an offensive guru, you're certainly going to get an interview in a sit-down.

he's handsome he speaks well he has jaden daniels who has one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time now on his record that he can certainly sell a lot of jobs open it feels like cliff might be a head coach next year it's crazy how shit changed so fast in the NFL and i'm thinking what you're thinking as far as philosophy wise on the offensive side of the ball hey cliff maybe we should do more of this and cliff is kind of like hey this is how i do it and coming off of that NFC championship run with a rookie quarterback like that was crazy they ran a ton of hurry up with super aggressive went for it on down a ton. I know Jaden got hurt a bunch with his running and his

elusiveness, but that's a part of what makes him great. I don't know if this will be the right time for Cliff to hit the market as far as being a head coach with all the hot names that are out there on both. Are there hot names? Yeah, on both sides of the ball. The defensive guys, and we're looking at the landscape of who's out there right now. Kubiak

could be a name with, you know, that's out there leading Sam. But outside of that, I mean, Josh McDaniels, he's not going anywhere. Like, the top, like, offensive guys, like, who are like the top I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, in the break now, Mike. Six jobs?

Yeah, we got six jobs available? Yeah. And then who knows if another one opens up after this weekend from whatever outcome? It's like how many offensive names are out there? This might be the time for Cliff Kingsbury to get back in the game. Because last year, to your point about the NFC championship running, people were like, hey, Cliff's going to get back into head coaching. Yeah, I actually did it. I'm getting paid.

I like Jaden. I like working with Jaden actually. I like what Dan Quinn's doing here. Let's go ahead and stick it around, give it another run. And then if he doesn't get it. get hired. This might be the old story of like, hey, when you're hot, these opportunities aren't going to come forever, but it feels

like he's going to get a lot of interviews. Yeah, definitely, especially with what you said. You know, like look at those teams at the top. Like the Raiders, for instance, they're about to draft a young rookie quarterback, and he's had a ton of success, Cliff, with young quarterback. So you can even go back to Kyler. Like, they kind of built

Kyler up a little bit. They went to the playoffs and granted you see how that ended up with Arizona, but there, Tennessee, you know, the offensive guys are kind of older. You wonder if Stefansky wants to take a year off. You could definitely see that after living in Cleveland for that long. And then Big Mike, big Mike, you know, older guy. A lot of these teams do want those younger kind of, you know, quarterback guru, offensive guru types.

And I think Cliff would definitely fall into that category. Even Cleveland's. Like you think Cleveland would give Cliff Kingsbury a look because they have multiple young quarterbacks. Is Cliff want to get to Cleveland? That'll be a whole other. I doubt it there. What's that? Cliff Kingsbury is not going to Cleveland

I can tell you that much If he gets another crack at a head coaching job He will not be going to Cleveland I believe he was a Pat's backup for a while So I wonder Yeah I wonder what kind of relationship he has with Brady Because if you remember it was a couple years ago Remember it was like a done deal that he was going to go to Las Vegas

To be their OC And then they like fudge something with They didn't want to give him an extra year that he wanted Or something like that So I mean that's a different regime So who knows there but if you're Cliff, I mean, if you went to Vegas, I would think you would maybe more so want to go as maybe the O.C.

You go gangbusters with a guy like Mendoza, and then boom, after that, hey, I'm the hottest ticket in town. Yeah, and to Debo's point about the defense, though, right now I believe Brian Flores is the quote-unquote favorites to land in Vegas. A lot of, I think Florey reported over the weekend that the idea in Vegas right now would be a full-blown New England Patriots Brady reunion with B-Flow being the head coach, Brian Dayball being the O.C.

And then Dayball being another guy who's good with young rookie quarterback. He's going to pinstripe suits. Yeah. Mark Davis. Oh, my God. That would be awesome out there. Yeah, just in my head all of a sudden, Cliff has a real shot at getting a head coaching job. Yeah, the offensive guys would be

Clint Kubiak, Seattle, O.C., Cliff, Stefansky, Big Mike. Joe Brady. Joe Brady. Matt Nagy. We'll see. Yeah, TBD. I think, I'm probably leaving a couple out, but. But to your point, though, what if defensive guys win the day?

Now, B.A said that's B.S, baby. And we, at previous B.S. or no B.A. or no BS with B.A. We asked him if a defense is going to be the thing that wins the title this year. And he goes, that's B.S. baby. Need a quarterback. So he's always going to think offensively. I think that is what B.A. does. But with how great all these defenses are, and if Domeco's Houston, Texans are able to go on a run,

strictly because of their dominance. McDonald's with their Seattle Seahawks strictly because of the dominance of the defense. It's like owners are very much monkey see, monkey do. I mean, they are... Philadelphia. I mean, they have one of the best defenses last year. Obviously, Sequin had an unbelievable year,

but they've kind of been rotating cast at that offensive corner of the spot. Their defense, especially since Vic has come over there, has been great. But I think, you know, I'm on board what B.A. is saying, because we know how important it is with developing quarterbacks. We've seen what Liam has done with Trevor. We've seen what Ben is done with Caleb. So, yeah, I can definitely see the monkey do, monkey see monkey do part of that.

But, I mean, you have to look at it. Every organization has to look at, hey, how do you want to build this team? Which guy can really come in here and lead this franchise, whether it's a Vrayb or Dan Campbell or Siriani or DiMico Ryans, whoever that guy is that you think is Robert Sala from 49ers, whoever that guy that you have the most faith to stand in front of the room and lead you to the time of the next chapter, that's where you go, whether it's offensive, defensive,

or like a special teams guy. I like that that's being considered seemingly more by everybody. Like, hey, you need an actual, like, coach. You need, like, a leader in there, not just a play caller, a play. Because there for a while after McVeigh, who actual leader, by the way? McVe, I'm not saying that he's not an actual leader. Sean McVeigh, great leader, great speaker. Feels like everybody respects the hell out of him, has made tough decisions,

has had hard conversations. He's not just a play designer and play caller, but I think a lot of people are like, well, everybody can do that if they got to. good place. And you got the good place. Why don't you come on in here? It's like leading a team and having like an alpha trait that you have to have while also having

empathy and being able to relatable while your resume has to be able to hit. That's all a part of being a great coach. And I think a lot of that got forgotten about whenever there was a hiring cycle or two or three after Sean McVeigh had success where it was like who could call best play? Fans like offense.

We're going to give it to him. We're bringing in a super genius. It's like well what about like leading a team though? Like that is certainly a conversation that was kind of lost, and then MCDC gets a gig. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, Vrable starts gnawn on glass, basically, up there. And then he starts seeing Siriani.

His little entire thing is his leadership style, different than everybody else. Seems like he's got the boys rally behind him. It's like, wait a minute, maybe you do need somebody that can lead an organization at the head coaching job while also being able to do the football side of it. Yeah, exact, Taylor. I don't know if we consider him

in that, you know, entire... We do, yeah. Yeah, okay, we do. COC really was the one that flipped that for McVeigh. KOC went in former player after his entire Ram stint and he made the Vikings what it is and then he had to make a bunch of tough decisions with Kirk and some

other guys and Brandon Staley I think comes to mind for me as far as like, oh yeah that was a bunch of shit when it came to McVade's entire coaching tree but there isn't a Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn like at all not even remotely close this year like there was last year like last year going

into this entire week it was like who's your. Who's your? going to get the bell of the ball, the two bells of the ball, really, because Aaron Glenn was considered the number one defensive guy, and Ben Johnson was the number one offensive guy, but it worked. And now this year, there isn't that. So Cliff Kingsbury, you kind of stepping into that, hey, don't forget it, like, look at me. It's a second time.

Yeah, second time, yeah. How much he learns. What he learned. What we watched at Arizona since he's been, they've already fired another coach. And they already got some, you know, that whole situation. They might be to Cleveland to the West. And I don't like that. Did you see the stat? Huh. The entire history of the Arizona Cardinals.

I think it's like 100 years. They've never had a coach be there for more than six years. Yeah, there was another stat that came out of the Cardinals that was just so horrific. Denny Green? A quarterback win? They can win like 17. They can go 17 and O for like 10 straight years and their entire franchise is win percentage would still be under 500. That's the one that's coming to my mind.

That was one of the stats. There was like most double-digit losses in the history or something like that. It was way, the graph was just like way this way. and then there's every other team and it's like have we not talked about how the Cardinals have been absolute

and how they're fans and that city that's why it's a beautiful city that's why we don't talk about it because the city is so freaking awesome and the people are like that city is awesome

that might be in college football beautiful place unbelievable campus unbelievable spot like they should absolutely be able to win and they just don't for some reason Phoenix after Indianapolis, Indiana, obviously, might be best city in the United States of America.

Like Nashville. After India. Oh, Nashville. Miami. They stink, too. Yeah. Oh. Maybe that's why.

See, he's too nice. Football thing. Just like we talk about with Miami. Yeah, yeah, all three. All three of those places. Too much going on. Said he's too good. So he's too good.

Can't focus on ball. How could you? Fucking Phoenix. Yeah. That's what they said. Oh. Mottons? With you?

Oh, there's a five-star restaurant. five-star restaurant and a five-star restaurant relatively affordable and also anything you want to do a good time is here. I don't want to go practice there. Oh, I'm going to be late.

I'm going to drive 150 miles an hour. That happens. Because they're living life too much out there. You're not Tyreek. Maybe Phoenix being too awesome is the problem. That's also why you think they would be able to attract like a top line head coach, you know, a bunch of good players

and free agency because it is awesome out there. What's Miami doing? What's playing down here? What are you guys got cooking down there and the doll fan? Nobody really knows. knows by the sounds of things. McDaniel said he was helping in the GM search, and Barry Jackson reported that McDaniel actually isn't safe. So I think once we get the GM, the GM will make the decision on what the hell is happening. Who's the GM potential possibility? Who's the name we know?

John Eric Sullivan of the Packers, I believe he's having an interview today. I think they're interviewing maybe like six people via Zoom today. Okay, so from our understanding, just from our, we don't know a lot of people telling us things about front office people around the NFL would be open to it. Wouldn't mind getting more info on the people that we don't know about in the least, which would be cool. These people are kind of like under the guise of watching film and on the road behind the scenes to kind of build, you know, a roster that's normally who is getting the general manager drops. Are they leaders too? I think that's something you certainly have to look at. But allegedly, out of the Packers organization, this John Eric Sullivan guy is a guy.

AJ, you know him, I think, from your time in Green Bay. Yeah, he's been there a long time. He's a dude. Like, I think if I didn't believe that, I just wouldn't say much about him. But yeah, I think he's absolutely a guy. Yeah, but I think Green Bay has been creating a lot of these, like, good leader, not just, like, find out evaluation. They've watched it. They've watched it, like, Green Bay, whatever you want to say, like, from the top down, like, it's run the right way.

They do things the right way. So they've grown up in that system. They want to try to implement that somewhere else when you become a GM. Schneider, Elliot Wolf, New England over there at Seattle is obviously Schneider. They're littered, literally throughout the rest of the league in high profile. He's going to be the next one, allegedly, even though they're interviewing other people. AJ, I have a question because I'm trying to shape my mind how I feel about this, John Eric Sullivan. Do you have to call him John Eric Sullivan?

If you are a friend of his, you'd call him John Eric. Do we call him Jeff? Johnny. I don't know. I think he'd call him whatever you want. I don't know what he prefers to go by right now. Solly is available. That's what you go with.

I just didn't know if he was a two-name guy or not. Plain landing. Yeah. Beautiful plane landing on the belly of the plane in the Hudson. That's right. Belly a beast up there. You can't use Sully because he just signed that $560 million contract with the Chargers after their money and full.

part of him. I forgot about that. Him and Wazowski really put on a show for us. Sully is a dog. Yes. So maybe they just call him Johnny. Yeah, Johnny. J.E. J.E. Rick. J.E. Went with. J.E. Went with.

Yeah, that would be a good one for him. That's a good. That's a good jingle. New G. Do you hear that Audie Crook song before you came on? Honestly, that's very good. That was you? Come on. Come on. It's really good. I'm a big fan. as well. She is awesome to watch play

basketball. I already got people tweeting. What's the name of that song? Audie Crooks, brother. That's the name of that song. Maybe even brother at the end. Yeah. Shout to AI. Shout out the bars. Shout out the melody. And shout out the Audi Crooks.

You're about to get cooked. That's Audi crooks. Yukon's in trouble. Especially if that thing starts, oh, oh, you know, that starts going. Sure. Okay, I don't like that. I don't like that We wish them all the best

We love Audi crooks We also appreciate the hell out of you We'll see you tomorrow goodbye Yeah that came up by nowhere Let's take a break And on the other side Obviously got to cover everything else Happening in this board

Yeah, yep D3 D2B D2A Obviously figure out there I don't know what any of it's called either Me neither I get attacked though for saying You guys are elitist There's no more 1 AA right

I guess there is one double A They call it FCS But 1 AA D2 Like, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? What are we doing? Jeez. I didn't know the NJ, CAA, and NJCA.

Well, we know it only remained. Junior college. Oh, okay. I didn't know how that was going still. That's coached Chef J.B. I know. Yeah. That's right.

Chef J.B. So much meat. Which one do he always? Who's eating all that meat? One. Steve Kim, Big Smitty. Dave Ports, you know, all the cast of characters. The food does look phenomenal.

It does. It does. It makes his real time out there. This boat looks phenomenal. It's a yacht. It's a yacht. That's a yacht. Jesus Christ.

All right. You're right. Let's get out of here. We'll be back on the other side. We appreciate you all so much. Happy New Year. We're thankful to be here. Let's wrap up all the sports talk on the other side.

Be your friend, tell your friends. Something nice. It might change your life. Take Faii! Football Hey, it's magical AJ, happy birthday, buddy. Hey, don't want to have to do this again,

but there might be some new people here, so, Happy birthday to you. That would have been awesome if we would have did that. That would be great. You know what, maybe we should, right? It only happens once a year. I think so.

You're right. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. I can't hear you. Oh, we're going to be louder. Happy birthday, dear AJ. Happy birthday, Jay.

Thank you. Yeah, it was like Shepardy. Hell you. Happy birthday, AJ. Thank you. Yeah, it was like shifty yesterday. My audio cut out. I didn't really hear it.

Oh, you didn't hear, can you hear us now? No. You can't hear us right now? I was reading your lips, so yeah, still doing it. Okay, can you do that? Stop. You're not doing it again. Can you hear us right now or no?

Seriously. Yeah, I just came back. Okay. Happy birthday to you. I appreciate it. Can you believe it's been five years since his party at the Capitol? That's crazy you did that age. You know, a lot of people do mention that to me.

A lot of people do. Isn't it weird your birthday, the same day, is what was happening over there and watched it? It happened to not be on the program. Here's A.J. Hawk highlights, by the way. If you don't know this, the guy that shows up on the screen every single day from Manatic in Ohio was an absolute monster on a football field. I mean, no questions asked. All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers.

At Centerville High School over there in Ohio, outside Dayton. Shout out to all the elks out there. Obviously, legends across the board. AJ once had like 30 tackles in a game while also rushing for 250 yards and punting six times for an average of 50 yards. You're talking about the Ohio boy of Ohio boys. He has a tree named after him

on the Ohio State University's campus because he was once the president of Ohio voted by his constituents. So ladies and gentlemen, we are certainly going to celebrate William Grace Football Guys, willing grace Ohio guys, and good friend of the program

who's not only good on a football field, and on this particular show and in day-to-day life where he's living in the moment like right now and right now and right now he's also an incredible

mixed martial artist people forget that at one time he was potentially going to take down John Burns Jones but instead of stayed focus on football and obviously we thank him for that in the football world

and the UFC in the MMA world you missed out on this you missed out on this AJ happy birthday buddy we love you thank you that That clip's amazing. It is.

It showcases what could have been. What about what we found out this weekend? What's that? His senior year, he tours PCL, ACL, and MCL, was out for four weeks, and then came back and played quarterback the rest of the year because a quarterback got hurt, led him to a state championship. And he said, I wasn't, yeah. Yeah. That's real. He took a lot of liberties with that story, but yeah.

You know, I guess like one piece. of that. I told my PCL, my first game my senior year. Okay, not your ACL? No, no, because ACI wouldn't be able to come back. I've torn a PCO, got scoped, cleaned out the carledge, rehab, had to come back the last four weeks, wearing a Don Joy. That was awful. I've been playing quarterback. Quarterback's a tough position. Not going to lie, even in high school, it's tough making

those reads. I was, I was tucking it and running a lot. Did you guys win? Yeah, I think so. I don't know. We didn't go to, we didn't go to state finals or anything like that, no. So your high school quarterback obviously needs to get added into this entire thing. Were you playing linebacker as well, clearly, obviously? Yeah, well, I mean, I was like, so I played

linebacker running back, and I was always like a backup quarterback in case they needed me, and then they needed me when I came back because the guy got hurt. So you're playing full-time linebacker and full-time quarterback in Ohio high school football? For a couple weeks. God, it had to be legendary. They tell stories about this guy.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. When I ran into, who'd we run into? We ran into somebody who was at another place in Ohio. another high school at the same time and said he used to go watch centerville high school football games to watch a j hawk this absolute maniac on the football field this guy has been like the ohio boy through it all and a j happy birthday man good birthday hanko thank you and don't you worry ohio he's spawning others that he's spawning others over there in the great state of ohio we appreciate

that and what a great week for it to happen maybe the greatest week of ball what a great football week huh I know. Legit, AJ. The semifinals, semifinals, Super Wildcars, Super Wildcars, Super Wildcard. This is it, AJ. We made it here.

Yeah, we did. I think, Ty, didn't you say this is like the greatest football week slash weekend of the year? I would say you are most likely spot on there. Yeah, especially because Thursday

we start with college football. Can't be it. And it's not just a potential no, nothing college football midweek ain't. No. It's college football playoff

semifinals. The game. This is, this is, here we are. These are the best four And then Friday it backs it up And then we got two Very obviously very good games

Sunday three very good games Monday one And we don't have to be distracted watching eight different screens You see Scott Hansen get emotional When he said goodbye Yeah, he did, you know Yeah, he said

No more octoboxes Until next year I'll see you guys in September he said So what's he do till then? Unplugs Yeah Does he pop up in the off season at all And then

come what You know, the first, or the last week of August, first week of September. What is he doing? That's the unplug. Yeah. Let's see it.

What happened? He goes, they unplug. You want me? With the football? Yeah. I'll plug it from the back. All right.

And then September, what happened? September, they walk in. They actually have to get a duster. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Hello NFL fans. Welcome back to Week one of the NFL Red Zone. And then he does his whole fucking spiel, and it's like he never left. But he has been unplugged,

basically collecting dust for the last six months. You forgot after they first plug him in, before he does that. He has to pee and poop, of course. Of course. Well, actually, maybe he doesn't. Yeah, that's why he doesn't. A large extent, I thought he builds up.

He changed his style of play. He changed his style of play this year. You know, new contract for Scott Hansen. He changed his style of play. You know, he's basically like the NFL was point guard, just kind of passing into games, coming back, getting the ball. Boom. He was a little bit more...

Give a couple more shots up. I'm going to dribble into your area, and then I'm going to dribble back, you know, and then I'm going to take it up, then we're going to run again. And then maybe I'll go see, and I'm going to take it back like this, okay. And then every once in a while something big, Scott, let me go ahead and kick it out to the corner. You know, let me go ahead and do that. Every once in a while, he'd send it to a booth that was complete shite, and we'd be like,

come on, Scott, you didn't pass the ball for the last 10 minutes. We don't need these people to be the next one's talking in that entirety. change your style to play a little bit this year i think we all noticed it right with red zone absolutely did anyone end up boycott because of the commercials oh todd dude there's a lot more commercials as the year went on ratings were down for red zone i think like 98% or something like he heard about something else that had that percentage before we went live that is not real but i did take it on the shins going into the NFL season because i was in NFL red zone because i said one minute out of seven hours was going to be we're still who cares we're still

going to watch this thing and i'll tell you what there's a couple times where scott was about to get a really good point and all of a sudden boom somebody pops in for a 35 second ad and I'm like, what was he going to say? Mm-hmm. That's true. Still watching it on your second. You still see it. You'll never know. Yeah, fucking Mercedes looked nice though, didn't it?

Oh my God, you kidding me? They got good commercials. They do. They do actually. Good bowtie. Great bows. John Hamm, voicing him over. He's making quite a comeback for that. I love you. Yeah. Coop has a league league in NFL.

Of course, she'll... The Uber one really went all in with him. Uber went all in with him. And they should, Bob. Yeah, Coop nails it. Good commercial. He's actually a fan. Nose ball.

Studies, ball, watch his ball, lives ball. I can't believe he said that thing and that thing. Yeah. That was crazy. He said that. I know, but it was spot on. What was that thing, though? What was the GQ?

It was a... Oh, yeah, the GQ thing with him and... Will Arnette. Is this thing on? Available now? Please go watch. It's incredible. good for Coop. I believe he wrote, directed, shot, edited the entire thing.

We are massive fans of Coop, obviously, in his big-ass brain. Him in that conversation, though, saying, I mean, retelling it very real story, because when we found out we had his number, who was a very, all right, boys, we're doing a cold face time here, which is move that happens in the Thunderdome, whenever we get somebody that we think should not know of our existence. Not much outside of the Thunderdome. You'd have to, like, not many people outside of the Thunderdome are doing the cold face time for the first time you ever reach out.

certainly not to someone like Bradley Cooper I didn't even think about that it just feels like the right move doesn't it it is it's your move it's what you do it's great and it's crazy when people answer you know because then it actually holy shit you know we don't have to call the catfish show it's actually this person you know that is crazy thing and as soon as coop answered that we want immediately into

me something girl we're all jacked up and the fact that he remembers that moment is so cool for us and the fact that he says it publicly crazy It's a great story Here it is actually from GQ's Social Media I believe this is for Is this thing on

What's that called? Press Junkett That's sweet He's cool guy That's going back to the beginning I think of the mood That's the end of it Will on that brought you up

I can feed I just texted him back He met him He met him all this stuff I was at Chris Henshey's house In the morning having coffee Because we would always do that the morning And then I see on my phone

It says Pat McAfee calling so I must have got his number and then it was a FaceTime and then I opened it and he's with all his guys and they started singing shallow and then I looked like a little boy who just met Elvis That's crazy

That's fucking crazy That is crazy that yeah exactly That is insane that that is the way he's talking about it But that's because I think And I don't want to speak for him here I think he watches our show like every day Like that's how much he loves Ball Like the guy is addicted to Ball

So him getting commercials and being a part of it We're a huge fan of that Yeah we appreciate the hell out of him. We are biased. Yeah. He's, yeah, he spoke the team

onto the field. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Got a great pro quo. Yeah, it sat in the owner's box. And then he made some decisions in the off season. And then now they're back-to-back champs

for the first time 25 years for the NFC East or something like that. I don't know, you tell us. I think the only back-to-back division champ this year. Pretty sure they're the only one who won their division two years in a row this year. And nobody's happy with them. Nope.

Are people giving them a chance to win it all? No. What are we talking about? It's wild that they're defending champs and people don't, like, it's like they're just, I don't know, fly under the radar. It's like, people just don't believe in them or what? All season, it's like that age.

They're like waiting for them. It's not just like national people. It's like the Philly people, too, are just like, this team sucks. This team's exactly what we thought they are, but biggest stage, they got stars all over the place could certainly just dial it up. That's not really how people are talking, though,

about this team at all, right? All year, Todd. Yeah, no, not at all. I mean, it's the same thing. But I don't know if it's just because people, like it's when your team's defense is so much better than their offense it's more often than not a tough watch because they're beating teams like 13 to 3 and 13 to 10 and yeah their offense has kind of looked like shite but their defense is so good and the fact that we haven't really talked about them like I feel like you know if teams take them lightly in the playoffs which they won't but like Philly has just as good of a chance to come out of the NFC as any other team right now yeah definitely I mean unless you talk about Seattle, I mean, hey, they're a real deal. They are. There's no BS, brother.

Hey. Well said. Superman cable. Did he say Sam was going to put the Superman Cape? That's huge. I mean. Huge development. They're so far away.

Just. They're like so far away. So it's hard to talk about it. Which is not fair. Okay. We're going to tell you we're part of the. problem. We probably didn't talk about them enough. Now, Grannie, you'll go over to Pittsburgh early in the year. We talked about it. Yeah. Good football team.

It's good football team. Exactly what we said. What we didn't know at the time, that's a grateful. Grateful ball team. That is a grateful team. Real tough. And I think they've kind of developed all year, only gotten better and better, and figured out different ways to remember he was just getting a ball every single play for a while. And then all of a sudden, now Charbonnet is the guy. Now we'll use definitely have him going on. We got a couple tight ends getting loose. And then the defense is just going to be one or two in every statistic.

And Mike McDonough are head of coach. He's actually calling the defense as well as leading this entire thing. So we're going to have a tough mentality. Yeah, I don't think anybody really talks about Seattle enough in this entire. At defense, we all know how great the defense in. JSN, how great he is as well. That Rashid, he highlight.

I feel like he's going to make, you know, a couple splash plays here and there. Maybe it's a kit return. Maybe it's reverse, just a 70-yard post where people are going to remember, oh, shit, they did get Rashid's heat at the trade. deadline, but they put this team together greatly, and

they got the right head coach. We'll see if they got the right quarterback on this run. It's a lot of pressure on Sam, but a lot of people believe in them. I believe in them, too. Look at these stats from Hembo here on playoff teams versus playoff teams. These are the people to make the dance. How do you fare against them? Seattle Seahawks, 6 and 2. Worst

Steelers, one in five. Patriots 2 and 2 only played four playoff teams, which is a part of the strength of schedule issue, which everybody's wondering about. Does this surprise you all though con man. Seahawks at one, Steelers the worst in a league. Definitely a little bit with the Steelers, but also because of their division being kind of having a down year in general, them not playing as many playoff teams probably did not

help them. The Jags being five and three, I think is what kind of stands out. We're talking about them being home underdogs. They won 13 games. They've beaten other playoff teams and they're still kind of being disrespected. I'm not there yet with Seattle. I'm just going to come out and say it. I don't think they're legit at all. I don't think Sam Donald. can win a Super Bowl at all. But I do think their defense can do it. That's why all the, okay, the Rams.

The Red Botts gas is up. Oh, no, no, no. Debutt was Ashley. I'm just listening. I mean, Seattle's a loud kind of internet fan base, so they will definitely, let me hear it because of this. The Rams win. They go to Seattle, who you're taking?

Because I know I'm not taking Darnold over Stafford. That was a great game. It was a great game. And they had a punt return touchdown to, basically win it. And that can happen again with Rashid Shahid. And they had a two-point conversion, which also helped them win it. I'm not pointing down to Rams. I love the Rams.

I know. And I don't want to put down the Seahawks either. My beliefs are not in Sam Donald's. And unfortunately, them went in 13 to 3 against the team where Phillip Rivers scored 24 points. Doesn't make me think any higher of the Seattle Seahawks. But at the

same time, I still believe in defense's winning championships. The last one that I saw from New England, it was 13 to three. The last one from Philly. I mean, that defense dominated Patrick Bahams. That defense won the championship. So it's still very possible for them to win a Super Bowl. It's just game on the line. I don't know.

Okay, let's move past that. And let's go to defense. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a warb season. Isn't it, AJ? Yeah, it is. Ladies and gentlemen. What the hell? Was that a real believer, kind of asking a question on whether or not it is? We get it. No, it was a real belief. I had my thing muted and I hit it at the last second

and just wanted to make sure I got it across. Oh, so you try to just make sure we really, understood where you're going to say what kind of award season i was going to pose a question oh i like that like that there it is i like that i did that to tie earlier i said who is ed policy in the middle of him given an answer just in case other people don't know who he is that he's acting owner of the greenbie packers so i like i like the thought of the potential alleyup there from hey happy birthday thank you just trying to figure the mechanics of tv out there you know that was a good mic Yeah, great, Mike.

He's a man. He's a man. I hope we get tired. I'm excited to see, yeah, what happens with him. I think he's very focused and excited for the opportunities to potentially get hired. And what a nice refreshing feeling it would probably be leaving a place, get a chance to get away, do life a little bit while observing football from a different perspective, and then dive him back in and obviously know that this is it. So this is the final run at this entire thing. That has to be a great feeling for Coach Mike.

We're obviously pulling for him. But it is award season. It's season's over. So now we've got to give awards. The AP did all their voting. All their ballots have been cast. Congratulations to AP, Tone, getting that done. Happy Tone.

Tough Tass had to watch every single snap of every single player at every single position for every single title. Thank you for doing that. Any other 49 AP people like Dan Rolovsky and others, I hope you did the same as Tone, because us watching him take it seriously was actually awesome. Tone, we appreciate you doing that. But it's not just AP there, give it our awards.

We got awards to give out too, AJ. You know that. Yeah, I do. What are they? Oh, that's a good question. How about the Everything DB, Darius J. Butler, all everything, DBT? Yeah, tough to make this team. I'll tell you what, I asked if we needed a first and second string. Debut said, nah, I don't want a full first and second string.

It's going to be tough to make this team. Now, granted, there's a lot of DBs all around the league. We're appreciative of their services. These are the five that made your final five? Yeah, I go one through five, and then there are two rookies that kind of get a co, I guess, rookie of the year. But yeah, it is tough to make the team. It's only five spots. And they're very, a lot of deserving guys.

I think Dan O said it earlier. It's tough to even put an all-pro defense together and not put all the damn Texans on there. But we're going to start with the Texan. Second time making you all in the state of DBT. Derek Stingley, Jr., one of the best cornerbacks in the league, if not the best cornerback in the league. The only cornerback in the league to have four plus interceptions

in three consecutive years. He was drafted number three overall and has lived up to the high. Hype already got a new contract becoming one of the highest paid cornerbacks in the league. And we know we've been around the league for a long time. A lot of times when a player gets that money, gets that first big, big time life change and check. It kind of take a year off or kind of have a year where they get. It's kind of a dub, but no, he stepped up big and has been one of the cornerstones of the best defense in the National Football League. It was tough not to put his counterpart on the opposite side of him.

Kamari Lassart, I'm going to already say it right now. He's honorable mention he's shipping on here. But it's tough. It's tough. But speaking of the other corner on this list, I mean, we already showed all five. We'll go Quinnion Mitchell, sophomore superstar. Congratulations, Quintan. First rounder a couple years ago out of Toledo.

A lot of guys didn't know this guy's name coming out of college, MacMachian, but he is one of the best press corners. And we know how much of a premium that is, especially in the playoff time. He will lock up with your number one receiver. He will travel from the left to the right. He will get in his face, and he was challenge him down in. and down out. Once again, it was tough to pick these two top corners because there are other guys out there. Denzel Ward, Christian Gonzalez. There are other really, really, really good cornerbacks out there. But this guy right here is put together two back-to-back years. He almost

made the team last year, just not a ton of ball production. And a lot of these press corners won't have a lot of ball production, but he has been unbelievable this year in that Vic Fangio defense where they play more man coverage. So I expect to see that more down the line in the playoffs as well. So congrats with y'all. It's not easy to get on this particular graph. Absolutely not. And this spot is near and dear to my heart, the nickelback position where I kind of made my hay in the league.

Cooper DeGine. Wow. Wow. Another successful. This is a wonderful day. You know, breaking barriers, I'll say, on this team. For sure, unbelievable year, once again. It took until week 12 this season for Coop to give up his first touchdown

in the national football league. He's become one of the best, if not the best slot defenders in the league. He can tackle. He can blitz. He's a great pre-snap communicator, and his ball production is going up as well. We all remember the big-time interception, which was his only interception last season in the Super Bowl, which he took back for a touchdown. But he is a physical specimen out there. And once again, communication is key of that nickel position.

He can line up. He plays some outside corner this year because they needed him. But he's back where he's most comfortable in that slot. He is an absolute dog. another sophomore superstar up here with his teammate on this team. Honorable mention for this spot, Jalen Petrie, Marcus Jones. I also had great years in the spot. Congratulations to them.

Congratulations to an exciting white cracking you all, everything, the B-B team. This is a huge day. Hey, Coop, thank you. And Riley, too. I know they come up here and thank you, Coop. Congrats to you as well. Yeah, that's out. I've been waiting for this day my whole life, probably.

And this is one of the happiest days of my life. Seahorn. Yep Yep Eric Weddell Oh, Weddell was a monster Yeah

I didn't hit man Yeah I guess Yeah If you're just thinking corners though Chuck Pagano Yeah Chuck Pagano Chuck Pagano

Chuck Pagano Riley Moss Yeah Corners though We just strictly I think Dustin Dust Fox was a corner right AJ

Oh yeah Corner with me at Ohio State and then he got dropped by Minnesota yeah And we're just talking about

random corners throughout the history Yeah we're just random super Corners. Surprisingly super athletic. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Now we move on to the safety. Kalen Bullock. He was the best free safety in the National Football League this year. Once again, this secondary, this defense can be all Texans, if I'm being honest. But he's going to get around the ball.

He's a big time hitter. He would show up in later Wood as well. Once again, a great communicator. They don't do a ton defensively as far as scheme-wise. They don't try to trick you. This defense just lines up and do what they do. Four defenders in that back end who have at least four interceptions.

That's Kalin. That's Jalen Petrie. That's Kamari Lasseter. And that's Derek Stingley, Jr. So they are ball hawks as well of getting after you in Landinwood. They do everything you want to do on the defense side of the ball. And he was the best free safety in the National Football League this year. So shout out to Kalan Bullock on his first appearance and all everything.

Hell yeah, Kaylin. Two Eagles, two Texans. And then obviously, that's been around for a long time. Yep, back-to-back years now for Derwin James, and he could be a slot, he could be a linebacker, he could be a safety. He's Mr. Everything when it comes to the Los Angeles Chargers,

defense, another pillar on that back end. Also leads all defensive backs and pressures, and he was actually chipped on like 12% of his pressures, which you rarely see safeties getting chipped that much. But he's around the ball, around the line of scrimmage a ton, kind of similar to Kyle Hamilton. Obviously, he came before him, was one of the best players in college of Florida State

and has hit the league running a bunch of all pros a couple of all everything DB teams now but he does everything had a little more ball production this year as well had three interceptions but we'll get after you will sack we'll tackle you in open field and also a great communicator as well

that's all all these guys talk their shit pre-snap and their stingling is probably the quietest guy he's just going to follow your best guy around shadow and make plays but all these other guys great community actually queen on as well he will lock your ass down and just get in your face. But those guys in the middle,

and usually the guys in the middle of the defense, safeties, nickels, backers, they have to be the communicators, get other guys lined up, and also be kind of Swiss army knives and do multiple things for their defenses. So shout out to all five of these guys on All Everything DB team this year.

Congratulations, boys. Darwin first ever back-to-back all everything DB. Him and Stingley. Oh, Stingley was on as well? Okay, so congrats to both those guys. That's multiple years of dominance. Did I see a C was on Derwin, James's chest there, and nobody else?

He would be the captain, you think of this All- Everything DB team? Oh, yeah, he's the OG of this group, for sure. This is a pretty young group, actually. So the league is in good hands. And I can't wait to see these guys on the biggest stage making big plays, you know, on primetime games. Speaking of young group, a couple rookies of the year here. Now, to be something of the year, you would normally be just an individual.

Yep. But this is kind of rookies out of year. Just pick one. Too much good football. It was tough. It was tough to pick just one. I'll start with Xavier Watt since. season is over in Atlanta, but he had an unbelievable season for Wire to Wire was a part of

a very good defensive draft class, what I thought with the Falcons, the two-edged Rush Walker and Pierce Jr. And Xavier Watts was kind of the pick that went under the radar. I thought he should have been a higher pick based on what we saw him do at Notre Dame. He will come up and hit you. Once again, another guy that will communicate. And he plays like a vet. Like when you watch this guy, you just turn on the tape, you would think he was a six, seven-year vet out there with Jesse Bates. He will attack the football, led all rookies with five interceptions. He will lay the hat. He will make big-time plays.

I can't wait to see his guy's career just ascend down there, Atlanta. He's going to be a good ball player for a long, long time. And then speaking of good ball players, Nick Eamonois, he was a first-round pick and just an absolute playmaker. Once again, just like Derwin James. Same number. He's obviously NFC. You got Derwin and AFC. He will line up all over the defense.

He will blitz. He will tackle. And he will get after that football. He's a big, I mean, when we think about L-O-B and you think about Cam Chancellor, and he was kind of the tone-setter of that defense, I will put Nick in that conversation. He's one of the tone-setters of this defense. You have great players all around that defensive secondary. We know Mike McDaniel, he's an absolute madman.

They have a great front as well. I think their front is a little better than it was in their L-O-B days. So they've kind of been carrying his team, best defense on third down, and Nick Imanwari, and what he's able to do in coverage, what he's able to do in the run game, what he's able to do getting after the passer. He's a big reason why this is one of the best defenses in the National Football League as the rookie.

We highlighted him at the Combine coming out of college. Hey, this is probably going to be a guy who does well at the Combine. He was 6-3-2-20. He ran a 4-3-8. He jumped 43 inches for his vertical and his broad was 11-6.

So, yeah, he is just an athletic specimen who is also really, really good at football. to the secondary. Hell yeah. And the all everything, DB team and honorable mentions. Didn't want to make a first team, second team.

No. So we just do one. Tough to crack. Tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, the trenches. Wow. Same trophy? Oh, the raining.

Who is it? Trenchie, Lane Johnson? Yeah. He's expected practice tomorrow. Oh, that's a huge deal for the other vehicles. Very huge. I'll tell you what.

Biggest stage. It's like the thing we always talked about with the chiefs. Whenever they're in the middle of their run of every single. year, it's like, Adam Holmes, Travis Kelsey, Chris, uh, Jones, all the boys on that team, like they're used to the big stage. Like, not that they're mailing it in, but like, been there. When we, when it's time like to win or go home, lock in with the amount of

skill that they have, it's like if they are to completely lock in, which turn it on and off the light switch isn't necessarily always easy. Okay, that's why people work their dicks off every single day and prepare yada, yada, yada, you name it. But with the way the Philadelphia Eagles are constructed. A lot of big-time players. And normally in the biggest moments is when they play their best ball because they understand like the ramifications of everything, you know, in those moments. So I'm not saying that they mailed it in or didn't play their best ball.

I'm just saying there's a chance. There's a chance that we have not seen anywhere near their best football. What is the status of Jalen Carter? Because he had surgery on both his shoulders and he missed the last, you know, a little portion of the season. Is he 100% other? Are they still trying to figure that out? Do we know if he is also already back practice? I call him Baby Rhino or something?

Yeah, baby rhino. How do you block that guy? I don't know. He just blocked a kick. Jordan, was that Jordan? No, Jordan and blocked one, too. I just remember him going. He had, he definitely missed a couple weeks throughout the stretch.

I think he's healthy. I would have to check, but I think Jalen Carter's healthy. Lane Johnson should be coming back. And as you guys mentioned, like that run game, if that can get going, that'll change everything for the Eagles. Carter returned in week 18 from a month-long absence because of injuries to both shoulders. Yeah, so it feels like he...

What about Lane? Lane, I don't know right now. Just let's see if we ought to be. Because if he's coming back to practice, he'll assume he's playing. Why would you practice? Yeah, Lane. Trent Williams, I expect, I don't know, I haven't seen anything, but with Trent Williams, knowing who he is

with a hamstring injury, I expect him to be back out there. I saw him, tunnel, you know, boombox. I saw him still vibing moving a little bit and then on the sideline it looked like he was not like agonizing

and pain like that thing was not that that can't pop up on you though yeah for sure lane who's been out since week 11 should be back for the playoffs he's in line to return for the playoffs

that's a big deal huge they're record that's like the craziest stat of all time they're like 120 and 50 with them and then they're awful without him it's from Jeff McLean the eagle's right tackle, Lane Johnson is expected to practice on Wednesday for the first time

since he suffered at Lee's Frank. Johnson has made progress in his recovery, but still has to test his right foot before the team makes a decision on his availability for Sunday's wildcar game first the Niners. He's playing. Hey, Andrew, bitch. Yeah, he's in. Yeah, Liz Frank sucks. Yeah. Because that's every, everything. That's the whole foot. Oh, I broke my pinky, my big toe. Okay, you can walk on the outside of your foot, the inside of your foot. Got an ankle, maybe you can hobble a little bit. Just the entire. fucking that sucks. He's taking many great men down.

Lane Johnson will return though from battle against that thing. Hell yeah. How tough is it? I guess AJ both you went to Super Bowl. There's certain surgeries. No, not even that injury, just as a team, but we always hear like Super Bowl hangover. Like you have that long run, you win it all,

you celebrating and coming back that next year. Obviously not too many people go back to back. How tough is like that really handling that and being in it, being a part of that team? I'll answer quickly before. AJ gives an actual answer. I thought we were just coming back to the Super Bowl the next year. Everybody told me I was wrong, and I was. We never got back.

So, AJ, your thoughts going that entire time? Yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know if we assume, see it. We won it all and then we got locked out, like, you know, a month later, so it was different. We didn't come back together until training camp started. So that made it a little bit different. I think we weren't together, so it was like, it's all fresh and new again.

We didn't have, like, the complacency. I think we went 15 and 1, I believe, that year, and then got beaten the playoffs, which sucks. But I don't know if I could say like there's complacency but people like it's natural human nature to get comfortable like if somebody if you do get a ring or something happens i don't i wouldn't say that was the case with us i don't think big mike was not going to let that happen with us but uh i think it is real it's definitely real the team that i was in the locker room of i'm not even going to act like i was really apart i wasn't there's no reason i should have been there i'd know i knew what i was doing

i feel like i brought good vibes though but like that team very mature so like the next year i think we made to the division around and i lost the to the Jets, I think. We give a deep shot to the right after calling a timeout because we thought we're getting the ball back. Pass interference, Nick Folk hits a 30-some yarder instead of having to be a 54-year.

Nick Folk's still doing it, by the way. He was old at that time. He's still doing it. Unbelievable. We lose the second year. But, like, I think all the OGs, I think they knew how hard it was to get to the Super Bowl, you know?

Mm-hmm. So I had Mount Rushmore quarterbacks, too. Like, Peyton and Aaron? Yeah. You would assume like every year you had a legit chance. Payton took it really hard, I think. From my understanding, I don't know all the information on anybody or anything. But from my understanding, it was Peyton, like, I think he disappeared for a few weeks,

like, get away from everything, like, really took it hard because how good our team was and how he had to lead at halftime. And I just keep saying we, but, like, I didn't do shit, you know? That team was so fucking cool to be a part of. They were just, like, grown-ass fucking men, you know? Like, yeah, we're drinking. a beer the night before the game. Where is the ice cream?

Yeah. They used to have beer at our Saturday meetings early on in my career. Yes. Ice cream, beer, pizza. Who ball was ball? What else do we need? We're playing cards on this night. We're doing dinner this night. This is happening on this night. It's like that was like, it

was fucking off. And I just get dropped in there strictly as a single young vibes guy at every one of the events. You know, for basically every part of the team. Defense, offense. skill, lineman, you know, I got a chance to really see how they operated. And I think they got a chance to see how I operated too. And I would say, I think they did okay.

I think I did. But it was like, that was, like, at West Virginia, it was the same shit. Like, we were, you know, our team was like. They're pros. You know, I came into Ohio State. We won the national championship my first year. Like, I saw those dudes were men. Like, those upperclassmen watching them.

I'm like, okay, like, this is, they were like a part of an older generation to where they could go out as hard as you. anybody on the planet and then they would be there at six and the next day just cracking skulls like they did not care and i think they would say that that was a trait that helped them in football like you know and overcome yeah well not only that but like i feel like those people got a lot tighter as a team like i think there were certain things that happened whenever guys weren't just completely worried about nutritional science at every single wake of turn you know i saw something about track the hunter meters from the beginning of documented time till now

And we've only gotten like 0.7 or 0.8 faster whenever it talks about all the shoes, all the new technology, the new track, everything like that. Documented 100 time, 100 meter time. And I might have got caught by, if I was, they put a lot of work into this thing to do it. But it's like how much faster did the human body actually get with the advancement of all this science and technology and information and all this shit? And it's like not that much. So like whenever these nutritional people came in and just changed the entire culture of fucking football, like that's, almost in the NFL PA and the NFL made it mandatory in the CBA like everybody needs a nutritional coach everybody needs a science coach and shit like this and I think athletes just

bought into it because it's like yeah okay this is what the nutritional person says this one it is that really changed quickly that's why whenever I'm talking about Fernando Mendoza having beers with the boys like I think that's a fucking big deal like I like I think that is a huge thing because yes I guess everybody's stronger faster by how much certainly there's guys that are very, very fast, and there was guys that were nowhere near as fast playing football back in the day, but it's like, how much did all the super duper nutrition help, and what did we lose by taking away all the bad stuff that could potentially bring more chemistry than anything else, you know, and that's why I'm going to hear. Mental toughness. Sorry, I don't want to lose

that mental toughness when everything is crafted for you and hear smoothies and all this. That's what I get worried about is guys that say, like, yeah, I'm not going to, you see a guy all of a sudden, straight clothes after one of that don't feel right today yeah i don't feel right like what are you talking about you don't feel right like come on man like that's what i hope we don't lose also hey yeah make a peanut butter and jelly bro we're fucking hungry yeah fucking open that thing okay you take anything spoon fucking whatever's nearest boom bang and then do just doing that as opposed to hey here's this for you here's this for you want two protein balls how about a protein stick you want a little bit of this gatorade oh you want we used to have to fucking try to fight for some goddamn gatorade out

And I'm not yelling at the clouds in front yard right now. I'm just saying when I'm talking about players being generational, Fernando feels like an old generation quarterback in the modern era right now. And I don't even think he knows it. I think he's just like... It's a good thing. It's a great thing. He doesn't know it.

Shut on. At Oregon defense, I was going to home, Dan Land. I'm really excited for that. So pumped. Dan Landing's second shot at him. I'm glad that game is Friday and not Thursday. And I'm pumped for Miami. Ole Miss, too.

It's just, you know, Oregon, Indiana. Some of the nerds are you see what the nerds are saying about Dan Landon? What? About beating him twice. Yeah, pretty easy. The board did it. He wasn't the only one, I guess. This is different.

That's what Hembo. Hembo said everybody's talking about beating Lanning twice. I think Hembo sent me a stat about another team that was trying to beat somebody twice. He's like, everybody talks about it being hard to beat somebody twice. It's actually not factual. Maybe you beat the first time because you're a better team. And then it was some stat. This one is about Dan Lannning, and maybe these teams are just better teams,

which is what Hembo and the stats people say, I think, about the whole narrative about it's hard to beat somebody twice. Because I think outside stats people, us, we get better knowledge, you know, more fired up, a little bit more motivated. Stats people say, well, actually, higher score first game was more corresponding with how good team is. And then the second time should be the exact same. But we all understand what this is. We all understand adjustments. We all understand what could happen. That said it's certainly possible.

Also, you see the, the Boer, Washington, when who beat him twice, 36, 33, and 34, 31. Like, those games could have gone either way. 32, 31, state first meeting. Rematch ass meeting. Yeah. 41.21 was not. It was not that close, yeah.

Yeah, that was 41 nothing. That's what it felt like in my mind. And I assume you feel the same way on that one. Yeah, the beating team twice. I guess I'm a victim of that, too. I guess I'm guilty of, say, oh, you know, it's hard to beat a team twice. Just because, yeah, that's stupid. We should change that.

Just because I heard it before. It's like saying, oh, make sure you don't go outside with what hair when it's cold. You'll get pneumonia. That's dumb. Like, that doesn't mean anything. That's a, don't touch the eggs of a, if you touch the eggs of a, in a bird's nest, the bird won't come back because the mom will disown them. Nope, that's false as well.

Like, yeah, we got to, we got to figure it out. Yeah, all these things. It is. All these things are just do it this way because this is how it's always been. You don't want poop on your hands. You don't want your little kids having mushy bird poop and garbage all over the hands. so don't be dugging around a birdfish. Okay, I like that.

So they went to the extreme saying, hey, you want to ruin his life? Yeah, the mom will kill all the babies if you touch them. They make them feel bad. Yeah, the most extreme. What about pumping gas way of your car zone? Yeah, I guess that's never been any questions. You shouldn't do that.

Are you sure? Especially in the winter, Deep Butt. You're in the Indy, you're going to need to do that. You knew AJ. I always do it. You knew. Okay, you do as well. You knew AJ felt very strongly about that,

and I appreciate you, Alie Upe and I'm here on his birthday. AJ's never even thought about Turner's car off while pumping that gas. That's just common sense. You know that. Well, how come at every gas station it says turn a car off whenever you're pumping gas? I mean, there's a lot of signs all over that mean nothing that are garbage that they just have there. I agree.

What is it for? What do you think? CYA, Kelvin your ass, because they don't want to get sued if your car blows up. Exactly. And that's, you know what? Yeah, it is fine. And tell some fat hayseed flicks a cigarette near your car and it blows up the entire gas station. And now you don't just have one fatality. you got 30 30 40 50 this is just like the bird with the eggs thing exactly i looked up the bird with the eggs thing i think he's right there he's wrong about the gas thing but oh he's a lot of signs but what he's saying is just

because we've heard it all the time doesn't mean it's real you know just because that's what age a j likes to question the uh he doesn't like i like to question today when the people say they say like my mom is guilty she always says they i don't know we'll say it's google we'll say it's google at this exact moment is one part of the day. I don't know if this is how they identify. We shouldn't necessarily just automatically throw a they on them. But yes, you should. Rare. Rare is what I see right there.

Rare. Very rare. Yeah, but do you see the first line? Or do you just not read like first line into... What are the two words after rare? Is it? Tim McAfee, Nicotine right here. Catastrophic risk. But I mean, come on now. AJ, AJ, all right.

So obviously, everybody has told you you're wrong, but I understand you got to live... No one's ever mentioned it to me. I think they all said, thank you for keeping me nice and comfortable while you're pumping gas. I think that's all that. He also does this new thing on the plane flights where he refuses to sit in his seat during takeoff. Yeah, what's that all about? Oh, yeah. A pretty active flyer. Because he was told one time, hey, sir,

can you sit in your seat for takeoff? Now he refuses to do it. I'll tell you what. Every once in a while, I'll protest some shit that's being said on those things. I respect. I very much respect what you were saying. I can't wait for to hit his head off the ceiling. I got a wide base. You see my wide base. The real problem is he's like banging on the exit.

door like oh you think this is fun don't you want me to do that now before if i did it in the air it would be much worse like i just want to see if it's holding yeah i appreciate you doing those last plane checks for us how about the peek and go you were dead ass asleep the whole no no i watched i watched that whole thing believe me i because i saw it foggy and i heard him juice it back up and i was like oh dang it we're going around okay so you're up for that okay i'm happy to hear you're up for that and the way you fly i assume you were actually woken up by the plane moving in your body, just we're going to puke right now, even though you're dead ass to sleep.

Us in the front, kind of in real time, dealing with the information, knowing that hell was about to potentially happen. Like, hey, if we can't land, we'll just pull it right back up and then we'll head over to LAX. And then getting a message like, hey, think we're going to be able to land.

So we're going to be able to see ground. We're going to be good. It's like awesome. So kind of like anxiety kind of just kind of settles away. And then we get to a part where we see ground. Like we, okay, we got here. Because we knew the mission the whole time. and obviously we're paying attention

we're doing the entire thing we see ground clear than I think we've seen oh yeah it looked good I mean it was clear definitely he couldn't touch down I'm thinking the pilots wanted to land at the other you guys saw the ground

oh yeah I saw a house big time because I woke up on the yeah there's a little yeah exactly we could have done on the boom boom boom boom

yeah I'll tell you it was it was certainly an impressive relift back up into the sky but from what we were understanding and I'm sure some pilot will give us something. I don't have my hours. I know AJ got some hours under.

There's minimums. He was fully legal to do it. He made a decision. He's conservative. I agree. It's better to do that than die. Which he can always grandstand with, you know, like, well, we just thought it was safer for all parties, but also potentially. And my hotel's right there. Hour drive. Yeah. So that

is where, you know, we, in the back of the plane, who then had to do an hour drive, you know, with limited, certainly had some questions. It's like, my son. I was told, If we can see, we're going down here. Is air traffic control telling you we can't go down? No, they're saying you can't.

Okay, you're just finding out if you could see. So you're making a decision to go to LAX then. Airport was open. Yeah, still fully open. Oh, yeah. Operable. Well, hey, gloss down safe. That's right.

Oh, yeah. Thank you for doing it. We're here. Hell yeah. We can't complain, honestly. That's fucking nice plane. We're on it a long time, but that was a nice plane. Oh, yeah.

It wasn't nice. Three rooms. I mean, you guys were sleeping in the back. I had no idea what was going on the front, right? No, luckily. Oh, the plane of California? Could not hear you guys right there. I didn't know that you guys knew we were possibly going to go-round or touch a go.

Like, I didn't even know that. I just knew it was foggy. Yeah, we were very much in the know on how it was all going. Pilot actually came back, sat in front of me. All right, hey, listen. I'm going to take a seat. Did this one here. It had his glasses on his lap.

So here's a situation. Kind of breaks all it down, low ceiling, you know, obviously a lot of pressure, blah, blah, blah, the whole thing super scientific words we're all what half asleep at that point and it was a long time i was nuked at that point yeah oh man yeah still up yeah this guy very well dressed good hair i mean seems very professional moves glasses to the lap i mean knows his whole thing breaks it all down to us does it sound good it does sound good thank you for you know the information gets up goes back up there now we're all in high alert all right here we fucking go let's see what What happens, boys?

Flight attendant turns around. They're saying they think it's good for landing. It's like, oh. Yes, that's great news. A little burst of energy there about to be in about the 27th hour of our day, 28th hour of our day or whatever. Lucky to do it, not bitching about it, just tuck in about state of mind where we are at the time. And then, yeah, the, oh, look at that guy's house.

I'm literally seeing his backyard. Okay, we can see down there, it looks like. Holy shit, we're out of you. That was a good takeoff. Shout to that plane's still having a juice. To be able to just turn that. I was hoping he was going to circle around and come back in the same airport.

They do that sometimes. Try it again. No, no, no, no. Guy was never landing there. Never. No chance. He wanted us to take the roller coaster ride. Yeah.

That's all that was all that was about. Boys, wake up. You got a fucking hour and a half ride. Awesome. Thankful to be safe. Yep. Helpful to be safe. Or shoot.

Yeah. I cannot wait to get out to Arizona. Then do it. Atlanta. And Super Wild Car weekend. Wait, wait, what? And Super Wild Car Monday. What I'm going to be live. Happy birthday, AJ. Here we are. A birthday, Happy birthday.

Hey, Hogger. All right. We're back tomorrow. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're obviously in this together. Team on me. AJ, anything you say on this birthday? No, I appreciate you guys. Thank you. And you guys know. These are the good old days. Absolutely. You landed the plane, brother. Oh, go. We're in it. Let's live in the moment.

And this moment. This moment. And this moment. And a new one. And a new one. The past is dead. The future does not exist. Here we go.

I like the new one. And here it is. Tone's not in the moment. I can tell. Tones worried about that. Now, he's trying to move on a hammered on. He's got a lot of bets to get, a lot of winners. Shout out that little thing.

Happy birthday, Jay. Love this moment in every moment we get to spend together. We're so thankful for the moments in which we get to talk about sports for a living. It's a dumbest life of all. time and we can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this team on me team on three one two three three good bye