The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1487 - John Harbaugh Finalizing Deal with New York Giants, Adam Schefter, Pete Thamel, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk and the boys discuss the news that John Harbaugh has officially been hired by the New York Giants, what that means for Matt LaFleur’s negotiations, who the current belle of the ball is now that Harbaugh has been hired, and all the other big news stories around the NFL and sports world. They also dive in to this weekend’s Divisional Playoff games, and the Big College Game on Monday. Joining the show to walk through how John Harbaugh ended up with the Giants and fill in the blanks on other coaching vacancies is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Also joining the progrum is the Authority on College Football, Pete Thamel to chat about the current point shaving scandal in NCAA basketball, if there is more to come, and what the new redshirt rule means for college football. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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because he was so excited to get this day rolling because it is a glorious Thursday day. not only because we're just two days away from divisional rounds Saturday. Yeah. And divisional round Sunday. And big college game Monday. Yeah.

Football's about to deliver. We got great football teams playing great football and a great time to be alive. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Today, we are going to host another ticket giveaway. Now, yesterday we were supposed to only give away one pair of tickets, but we ended up having to buy another pair of tickets to give away two pairs of tickets

because we had a little scavenger hunt of words on our lower thirds, and we didn't think about the geniuses who'd be able to predict or guess what the message was, even though it was kind of a random sentence of words that were pieced together. So we're going to give away a pair tickets to the first ten people who guessed it before the final clue was given, and then we're going to give two tickets to a random person in the first ten that gave immediately after the final clue was given. So we felt that that was right, because super geniuses who said, yeah, I'm just going to guess this thing. They don't deserve to be punished because we never clarified that it needs to happen directly

after the word is finished. And then the people who waited for the scavenger hunt to end and then give their answer, they shouldn't be punished either. So we decided we got to add two more tickets. And to be clear, ticket prices did stay. They did. Okay? So maybe these ticket prices will become a little bit more affordable as the days roll on into Big Game Monday.

But there's a chance that these ticket prices continue to ascend. So we felt obligated to send a couple people to the big game. Today we'll have another massive, awesome ticket giveaway. It'll be called the hashtag. PMSC Geek Punch at the toxic table, Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, will attempt a punch on our punching power pack thing out here in the front. The scores are zero to a thousand, a thousand being a hardest punch that you've ever seen, you know, and everything else kind of falls in there.

I assume you've seen the clips on the internet of people punching these things. I think that big giant guy from that one show, the mountain. The Mountain. Punched one. I think it was like 875 or 9 something. Like a 900 punch obviously is gigantic. Thousands are the most that you think you could possibly ever get. In there, I've seen 300s in public before.

These things are in a lot of bars whenever we were kind of in our boozing era. So the toxic table will take on the challenge. They'll punch it twice. We will take the higher of their scores. You will have to guess their combined scores. We will do the opposite of the Price's Right Rules. If nobody guesses the actual score of their two combined punches, we will actually go up a point to see who is the closest to the winner as opposed to Don.

So if you're underselling the boys, you're not going to be rewarded. Only three entries, okay, only three entries allowed per X account, because we will be able to find out and cancel you if you're in the first 10. So that is something that you should adhere to. Don't think you're going to be able to rig the system there because you will not know the right answer until we will know the right answer. So interesting situation in it all, but we are thankful that Seek is the greatest ticket-buying platform on planet earth and

the moon. We'll have another giveaway tomorrow for a pair of tickets, so we're going to be down there at the big college game. Divisional round is just two days away. Oh boy. Let's go ahead and have ourselves one here. Toxic table at Boss Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer. Don Cowboys at

Tone Diggs. Tone, I think the number is going to be larger than people assume. Ty Schmidt, Boston Connor? Scrappy lads, don't you think, Tony? Super scrappy, and a lot of people were asking how come you and I aren't punching? It's because we didn't want to break the machine. so just let's just get or our hands

so the machine more more likely well for me yeah yeah definitely the machine and uh that's a good good point why aren't we punch number would have been two

but it's easier just to you know $2,000 max number yeah exactly like that's going to be very we would like people to have a chance of getting it right I mean that guy too down for me

born in the southy region of Boston yeah there you go fought every single day had to fight to fight off bank robbers every single day. He's been in a few... Oh, yeah, I've seen him have to do that.

And then this man, born and raised in Iowa, turned down Iowa wrestling. He had full ride scholarships to Iowa for wrestling. And Penn State. Because he was more focused on the angling career at Iowa in that nature. So, yeah, these boys can go. Yeah, but also you start bringing up these types of background information. Or if the boys only throw a three-quarter punch, because they would like the, you know, kind of face hitting it pure as opposed to

hitting it hard. What if it's not a full swing? I mean, these are the decisions the boys are going to have to make in the middle of it. But there is a plastic pad that comes down pretty good into the punching area. And definitely going to hit knuckles off of that. Oh, yeah. And it is a pretty good little scrape. And also, if you don't lock wrist and elbow square, that thing's going to hurt you here.

You bust you. Yeah. Yeah. We all remember the days when these were at the bars. Without a doubt. And you wake up the next morning and it was like, okay, great. that thing beat me. Yep. But in the moment,

whoa. It was, those were wild. They started planning those in bars. Legitimately wild that he started doing that. We have one in our Thunderdome. Obviously we do.

What a ridiculous thing. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Let's get into some talk about some sporting news. Last night, it was made official at 11.50 p.m.

Eastern time, John Harbaugh, officially named the New York Giants football coach. Yeah, Hart. Congratulations. Congratulations to Harbaugh. Congratulations to the New York Giants. Allegedly through his entire interview yesterday whenever he was boots on the ground up there in New Jersey for the New York Giants. He didn't answer his phone one time. He didn't look at his phone, although he did get in a plane and leave. They were tracking his plane out of Teterboro and where he was headed. He was allegedly supposed to go do interviews with the Titans and amongst other places. A lot of people were saying maybe Tennessee was actually kind of a quiet favorite here for Harbaugh as he's going to be maybe offered the keys to the entire palace and kind of tell him to build it as they have a new. stadium on the horizon. Well, he never made the trip to Nashville. I think if he lands there, maybe you never know. You never know. You're walking by a honky tonk. He was he goes to Morgan

Wallens player. And Harbaugh is like, I love this music. Then walks down a little bit further. Luke Combs is sitting right there. Just walking the town coach. And then jelly roll is literally standing at the end of the street going, hey man, singing to Harbaugh is he's in town. You can kind of get lost in his sauce down there in Nashville and say, wow, is this the greatest city that's ever existed? You start learning the history of it. You all, us fall in love even more. So they didn't want that to happen if they were Giants fans. Bruce Brown, in our group text, panicking.

Oh, yeah. Panicking as jets were kind of being tracked, which is obviously creepy, should not be able to happen. Hate that it is, but it's certainly a part of the world that we're in. There was a man named Mr. O'Connor, who was a part of the coverage of it. Joining us now as a man who might be on the inside more than anything we saw on the internet last night. Joining us, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, journalist.

journalist, journalist. Adam Schaefter. What's up, Shephty? Hello, guys. Have that. What's going on? If you could provide some journalism for our program, we'd be grateful. It felt like this was going to happen for a while. Giants fans were maybe willing this into existence. Allegedly Jackson Dart was a part of the interview as well,

with Harbaugh maybe interviewing him just as much as he is potentially learning about Coach Hardball. Ineably, why do you not take the trip to the Titans? Why do you think this got done? and when he leaves town, is he just going to talk to family to kind of make his entire decision? How do we get to this point right here? No, I think what happened was, I think that they had the framework of a deal in place when he left the building. And the Titans were his house today. Oh, no.

Can't hear anything. Can't hear anything. And obviously that trip was canceled. So that trip didn't happen. and the Titans officials never came to Baltimore today because he had essentially the makings of a deal in place done with the Giants. Now, again, as it was described to me last night, there were still some details to iron out in the opinion of some,

but he had essentially told the Giants he was going to take that job and become the head coach there. Now, look, from the day he got fired in Baltimore and even before then, I think the Giants were doing a lot of work on him. And he was doing a lot of work on them. So it went both ways. Like he was calling around to various people. He spoke to a lot of people about the New York Giants,

gather a lot of information. People like Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick, like all kinds of people checking in. And he got back positive reports. And he obviously knew the quarterback what he was, and he knew the players and talent that were there. any time any coach, whether it's John Harbaugh, or any coach in this cycle or any cycle is deciding whether or not to go for a job, the two biggest factors are quarterback in ownership.

And clearly, with all the people he checked, with all the people he spoke with, he felt good enough about what he heard to essentially agree in principle to become their head coach. So he took that job, canceled with the Titans, not going to visit or meet with the Falcons. I think the Falcons also might have been coming to Baltimore at some point in time. Didn't happen. So in the end, John Harbaugh took one visit to the New York Giants, and they closed it out. Now, Baltimore owes him some money, so that probably figures in here. But when all of a sudden done, I expect a deal to average about $20 million a year,

make him about one of the highest-paid coaches in the National Football League, gets the roster. And the Giants, this, and we said this would tie on our podcast. This is their Super Bowl. They won the Super Bowl today. They got the coach that everybody wanted. They got the kind of coach in my mind. Like when they hired Bill Parcells, there was that much excitement. When they hired Dan Reeves, there was that much excited.

When they were Tom Cobb, there was that much excitement. And once again, there's excitement in the Giants world over the hiring of John Harbaugh. Okay. So on that note, Harbaugh with rookie quarterbacks has fared pretty well. Obviously, with Joe Flacco, they end up winning the Super Bowl in the entirety of it all. And then with Lamar Jackson, 45 and 16, 1 and 3 in the playoffs, obviously that is the reason why he was let go from Baltimore is because of, you know, playoff in late season success. And they want something fresh and new. And we are going to trust Paizan Bashati.

We are going to trust him. But on that note, Harbaugh has done well with young quarterback development, it appears. He's also done well whenever he has a little bit more roster and caps. space around the quarterback. We'll see what they're able to do around Jackson Dart. Obviously, that's a big sell for a lot of coaches as they were trying to eye where they wanted to head. Jackson Dart has proved, seemingly, to hard ball, and to the Giants fans, that he is worthy

of investment in being a guy to build around and to have a coach bring in. Now, who's the OC? Who's the D.C.? That all gets figured out in the rolling days. Now, five years, $100 million. So $20 million a year, Green Bay Packers on the floor haven't figured out then, right? Like they know exactly what that deal supposed to be. inevitably. Whenever we're talking about players contracts,

a player will sign a deal, Miles Garrett signs a deal. Okay, we know exactly what TJ's deal is going to be. Okay, we know exactly what this guy's deal is going to be. With Harbaugh's deal getting done and it being what it is, how does that affect the Green Bay situation, if at all? No bearing at all. The Packers and Matt LaFleur have been working on an extension. They've been talking. I think it's gone a couple of different ways here. I think right now, the way it was described to me today, earlier today, I think the expectation and belief is that he's expected back in Green Bay and excited about that opportunity. That's the belief on both sides. So until we hear different, I think we operate

under the assumption that he's going to be back and they're going to figure it out. Okay. They're working on trying to get it done. That's what I would expect to happen right now, but they're not done. So until they're done, we'll see. But I believe they're going to work it out. It just feels like there's a market, you know, that you know exactly how much you should tell you guys. Pat. There will be a big market for Matliflor, because the Green Bay Packers don't work it out.

I'm telling you right now, Matt LaFour will get more money from other teams, and there would be multiple teams, in my mind, that would be willing to step in and offer draft pick compensation to the Green Bay Packers to get it done. So, I mean, even though... The floors people know that, you know? The floors people know that that's the case, and this will lead perfectly to the next question.

So they're definitely saying that to the Packers, this is just classic negotiation. Here's the comps. Here's exactly what I am owed. Here's how successful I am. The fact that they don't have an owner, okay, so they have access to a vault of money, and they know exactly what a fair market deal would be for him now,

especially after the Harbaugh deal is signed. It's like, okay, this is easily done then. But it's not. So we shall see. Okay, so if he was to hit the market as a coach, he would be Bella Ball. Mike McCarthy obviously still very much available and he could be Bella Ball. But there's another name emerging quickly. Last question for you, Schaffer.

Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Shephty. Is Stefansky now kind of the favorite for everybody else? It seems like the Titans and Falcons were ready to hand over the keys. Like Pat mentioned to Harbaugh, now that he's off the table, Do they feel the same way about Stefansky? Are they, our team's going to basically just line up to get him in their building to fix everything that is wrong with it? I think Kevin Stephancy is going to be in play in Tennessee, Atlanta, Miami, Baltimore.

Those are the four places that I could see him being in play. We'll see if Pittsburgh decides to weigh in or not. I think at the very least he's going to have the option. to come out of this cycle, I think, with a head coaching opportunity. Now, let's keep in mind. I think there also are going to be a lot of attractive, offensive coordinator opportunities. And the Cleveland Browns owe him two years of money. So if you're Kevin Stefansky, you're thinking to yourself,

what do I want to do and what's the best opportunity for me? McDaniels. McDaniels. Yeah. I was a head coach. It was hell. I mean, I won head coach at a year and all the times. it was the worst time of all time,

but I'm getting paid like a head coach still from the Browns, and I can do OC, maybe we're going to try to win Super Bowl somewhere, potentially. Eagles, Lions. Eagles, Lions, Bucks. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of opportunity out there. Is that what your stuff? Chargers. Chargers, as well. Yeah, so there's a lot of OC opportunities for recovering head coaches.

By the way, you guys listed the Eagles, Bucks, Chargers, Lions. Yeah. Tell me, when we look at those offensive coordinator openings, and those jobs and those quarterbacks and those organizations. Tell me that you wouldn't want one of those jobs? Yeah, I mean, those would be the ones,

especially if you're looking to become a head coach again. These are our head coach creators. Okay, so Pat, and you raise a very interesting question there. So if you're Kevin Stefansky and you're being paid two years of salary and you're going to have a chance to do one of these head coaching gigs, would you rather do that now or take one of these OC jobs with these organizations.

Work with that quarterback and then hit the job market a year from now. What would you rather do? Or maybe just Josh McDaniels it. Rest your life. They're paying a lot of money. There's no salary cap on what you can pay coaches. If I can prove to one of these new mega wealthy owners, because there are now mega wealthy owners,

not that every owner isn't wealthy, I'm just adding in the mega into the front of it. And there's going to be more of those as teams continue to roll on. So like with the no cap on the coaching thing, offensive coordinators, especially if you've already gotten a head coaching contract or two, which means you got a lot of money in the vault and a free television job anytime you wanted.

Taking an offense coordinator job where you're getting grossly overpaid whenever it comes to offensive coordinators and you don't have to deal with any of the other shit, if that's not the style of human you are, that certainly becomes a much more attractive job, I think in the future if they're going to start paying coordinators a massive amount of money,

$7, $8, $9 million to do that, $6, $7,000,000, $7, $8,000 to do an offense coordinator and you already got two years of head coaching money coming when you don't even have to work at the place? Especially when you look at those four places, all these coaches talk about kind of ownership, GM, head coach alignment. You could argue all four of those places have some of the best alignment in the NFL between the Eagles,

especially the Lions. I mean, that's Holmes. Basically Ford told Holmes and MCDC, go ahead and do it. Those are four unbelievable coordinator jobs. Stefansky's also, he went to Penn. He's from that area. So, like, does he want to go and maybe be close to his family for a year or two? the Eagles are going to be good.

That also makes a lot of sense. Shafty, it is. Okay, so Stefansky we just learned. And then McDaniel McDaniel, you got to think about. Same thing. McDaniel's going to be ball offensive coordinator rules. We would assume, right, Shephti? Yeah, look, he's interviewed for some head coaching jobs,

and he'll have the chance to interview for more. I believe Mike McDaniel's interviewed with the Baltimore Ravens today. Is that out there? I think so. Yes, I believe we have read that. But also, it could have been a different team. and my brain just kind of mixing it all together. A lot of those reports.

He's getting a head coach interview and an offense coordinator. It's like interesting. But again, I think when we talk about Stefansky McDaniel and the head coach openings and the OC openings, that's a very interesting dynamic this year because some of these OC openings are really appealing. And not say the head coach openings aren't because they're head coach openings and they always are and they carry big money.

but each coach is at a different level in his life. Like if you're one of these coaches who's never been a head coach before, a Anthony Weaver, a Jeff Hathley, a Nate Shieldhouse, a Chris Shula, somebody like, you're going to take a head coaching job, I think, however you can get it. But if you've been a head coach like Stefansky or McDaniel, and your former employer owes you, money probably wise to consider all options. And use a lot of discretion when you're making that decision.

Completely agree. Okay, last question. I said that was going to be last question, but Fred Warner, is he playing? He's pushing to play. He's not giving up hope yet. Kyle Shanahan was dismissive of the idea all week long. But Fred Warner doesn't want to let it go. And here's the deal.

They have until Saturday after. afternoon at 4 Eastern to activate them. Like, here's something to pay attention to this weekend. The bills are listing Curtis Samuel and Ed Oliver is questionable. They have to make the decision by 4 o'clock Eastern on Friday because the game kicks off 4.30 on Saturday. The Niners Seahawks game doesn't kick off until that night. So the Niners don't have to activate Fred Warner if they're going to do that until

Saturday at 4 Eastern. They can wait until that time They get an extra day to decide over the Buffalo Bills Who have to decide by tomorrow Whether to activate Ed Oliver and Curtis Samuel He's flying around I mean he looks very energetic very up and fly and Hey

Now not you Oh yeah we don't know Yeah we'll keep our eyes on your Twitter account I'm sorry your ex account to keep us updated We appreciate the hell out of you joining us from phone brother Thank you. you guys. I appreciate you having me. Have a great day.

Thank you for the journalism. Huge. Thank you, Jeffty. Thank you for the love of sport. We appreciate that. Thank you, thank you guys. Adam Schaefter. Yeah, Jeffty.

Sheffty said, I love sports, but also, have you seen what they pay guys like me? Yeah. But his life is, what have you done for me lately? Uh-huh. Non-stop. Yeah, it looks like you got a lot of sleep.

He said he got one hour of sleep last night. That's what he told me this morning. And after those, those days, that's when you need to be on because everybody now wants to know what you did. Exactly. Hey, what were you doing all night? Well, actually, I was figuring out. And then boom.

Now, talk, talk, talk, talk. Let's do that again. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, the authority on college sports, Pete Thammel. Yay! Yes for Hamel! Everybody in the 3-1-3, put your hand in the air, say hi to Pete. What's going on, brother?

Good to see you, brother. Nice to see you, Pat. Thanks for having me. Yeah, well, thank you for joining us. I know there was a lot of investigative journalism happening in a gambling ring that sounds like has hit college basketball again. 17 schools, 20 players. I think those numbers are accurate.

What are we hearing? What are we learning? Where do we stand with college hoops right now? Should I be watching what I'm doing on my draft kings with college hoops at this point, Pete to Hamill. Well, I just saw you flashed up David Purdom's story. He's done an excellent job tracking this. Today, Pat, is sort of the culmination of what has dripped out over the last year that there's been an unspooling federal investigation into point-shaving in Division I men's

college basketball. And what really emerged today was just sort of some of the hard realities of the depths of this scandal and how far it went. 20 people were charged in this. The ringleaders were a guy named Shane Hennon and Marves Fairley. These guys are like career gamblers, career criminals, and they basically found ways to intermediaries, which included Antonio Blakeney, a former NBA player star at LSU, to infiltrate these mostly small college basketball programs and convince guys to throw games. And, you know,

you just look at the bets that were made on these tainted games. $458,000 on Towson to beat UNC, $424,000 on Kent State to cover a first half line against Buffalo. Look, I'm as, you know, jaded and cynical as they come, and those, like, blew my mind, Pat. That, first of all, someone would wager that much, and second of all, that none of that got flagged. Now, those probably weren't singular wagers. They were wagers done by this network of people who were fixing these games. But it's, you know, it's an explosive day, you know, for modern college basketball. It's a, you know, you get about one of these a decade, right? And this is significant. And I think a lot of it speaks to how accessible gambling is right now. We saw the prop bet.

situation in the NBA show up and this is a some of the same uh unsavory folks that were tied to that are also tied to uh tied to this allegedly and um yeah it's a it's it's a pretty it's a remarkable uh remarkable sweeping investigation that was unsealed in the eastern district uh of pennsy nbarae has been linked to all of them all the stories from the NBA with uh chanty billups and uh damon jones all the way to year. And Porter. Porter, too. And Porter, I believe.

Shane Henan's been kind of linked to all of these things. And I believe there was a poker one that Chauncey was also a part of. I don't know if Shane was also a part of that one as well or not. But it feels like this Shane Henning guy who has a lot of aliases is kind of a part of all of this. He seemingly figured out the racket and how to

pitch or how to get people. And it's kind of stretched now everywhere, which leads to the next question of this whole thing, Ty. Yeah, Pete, how big of a concern is it that this is going to spill into the major conferences. Because like you said, it's mostly, you know, very small mid-majors. Is the thought that NIL and the fact that, you know, a lot of these guys in the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 are making millions of dollars a year right now, that they're maybe not as

susceptible to be caught in something like this? Or where does the NCAA stand on that as of right now? So the biggest name school involved in this tie is DePaul in the Big East or a couple DePaul Betts listed in the in the 70 page indictment today. And it looks like, again, these most of, now there were four current players involved in this who've played college basketball in the last week. Jeff Borzellow reported that today, including a guy who, you know, got some buckets for Kennesaw State last night. But for the most part, this is past tense.

It's been rooted out. There's been like a drip, drip, drip. There was a player who transferred a few times ended up in Wisconsin this year. And all of a sudden, he's not going to play for Wisconsin anymore. pieces of interviews NCAA, FBI, etc. So I do think that the damage that's listed here today is the extent of this scandal. I don't think we're going to see this flash up in some more familiar brands. And look, they preyed on the vulnerable. They prayed on the guys making $30,000 a year, not the guys making $300,000 a year. And, you know, it's pretty evident if you read through the indictment how

they did this. They basically, they would show, there's one portion where they sent pictures of $100,000 in cash and they were trying to encourage you guys, hey, tell your teammates, like, this is for them if they're going to, you know, lose by more than eight in the first half this weekend. I hate it. And we're part, you know, of what a lot of people say is the problem because we talk about sports gambling. And I can't stress this enough. People talking about sports gambling has been happening since the beginning of sports, I assume, just in smaller circles. And it's much bigger now. and certainly much more accessible. You'd assume that amount of bets on a particular low-level game on a Tuesday night would get flagged on handheld gambling.

There's a chance a lot of this is still happening at brick-and-mortar casinos, which I would assume you would know more about, where they also then have a fleet of runners that go and put these bets in that either they know or don't know. And the people that are running the bets either know or don't know who the money is even coming from. That's potentially second generation to get that money in there. So the amount of interesting kind of things that can happen in this modern space of sports gambling being legalized statewide, not federally, is certainly, you know, kind of rearing some ripple effects into the amount of people potentially getting caught. Now, I would like to argue getting caught and getting caught up in a situation. I would like to argue, though, that the digital gambling will help root this out more because it's basically impossible not to track everything that happens on there. So it's going to be in our world now because states are receiving tax from that a lot of money being generated for these states.

Very rarely does anybody in the history of government, from my understanding, I don't know it as well as everybody else. Do they turn off a pipeline of cash into a state? I don't think that's ever happened. I don't know governments well enough, but I don't think that happens. So we need to understand that sports gambling is going to continue to happen. And it's probably only going to continue to grow because there's more states still that haven't been added. So, like, I'm happy that we're able to catch these folks, but I am scared if this, you know, like I can't, our sports cannot just be completely ruined because of it as well. It's a weird kind of dynamic that's kind of happening in front of us all.

Make sports more interesting for people. You know, people are able to kind of feel a little bit more like they have a horse and race. Now, obviously, there's the downsides of it all. People get addicted. Now, granted, the digital ones cut you off. It's like there's just so many things where it are really like an interesting breaking point of sports gambling. in sports. This transition phase, probably 10 years of so, on the other side

of it, what will it look like versus now? I don't know. It's wild. Yeah. This is like, you heard about the black socks. Right. Mm-hmm. And like, Pete Rose, obviously, his name, it was only like a couple stories that we had really ever heard about. Now, is that because it was tough to track? You know, Pete Rose got caught because he had a

notebook, you know, and there was other actual books that were happening, you know, and being written. So, if those were to be lit on fire, there'd be literally no evidence. So, like, I don't know. Did it happen as much back then as it's happening now? It just feels like I'm learning of the new things happening and I don't like any of it. No.

And it's all like seemingly easy to execute, sounds like. Just got to hope they get caught. Right. And then the punishments have to be severe. Very heavy. Very heavy. Well, and that's what's tough too. It's like Pete said, you know, like all this investigation has been going on

and like all these guys who were indicted who were in the investigation, several of them played college basketball this week. So like the severity. the punishment really hasn't been there. So it started in September 2020, from the article here, and it was initially focused on a Chinese Basketball Association rigging of games. Okay, classic, how can we take advantage of something? What is not covered much?

The Chinese Basketball Association, maybe we can get in there, and then the group later targeted college basketball games, offering bribes college players ranging from 10 to 30,000 compromised games for betting purposes, according to the indictment. Oh, and those guys from those small schools who aren't going to the NBA, you'd assume they're probably going to the CBA. They're going over to Europe and playing overseas where they could probably kind of work around some of those things.

Maybe they have friends playing over there. Yeah, people, exactly. Like a network. That's when the network thing kind of thing. All right, well, let's not continue to chat about this because college sports are awesome too. College sports are incredible. There's a lot of very good that we have to continue to chitchat about,

but we also have to make sure that this can't happen, okay, anymore. Got to stop. And gambling on games will be available for you when you're done playing sports. But while you're doing the sports, you can't be doing it. These are two different things. These can't be doing it. And hopefully the punishments will certainly set a tone that that has to stop. Let's get to college football now.

Speaking of punishments, who do those come from? The big college game coming up, but there's other stuff happening around college. That's a great question. Pete, the American Football Coaches Association met this prior weekend. And the college coaches unanimously voted for the red shirt to switch from four games. you play in four games to nine games. And now it has to go to a committee, I believe, to be passed. What is the difference between the nine game red shirt rule versus a lot of people have

heard recently about the five for five, basically where once you start playing football, you have five years to play. There's no red shirts or anything like that. Even if you're healthy for all five years, you can play all five years. So what's the difference between the nine game red shirt and maybe that? And then who is the committee that passes this and actually enforces this? because that's the biggest question with college football right now is who is in charge of all this? Great question, Stone. So to me, this is a little ways to go before it becomes a reality.

Obviously, the coaches are going to pass rules that favor the coaches, right? Like, and this would obviously be good for them because they can use players longer, etc. But it feels to me like this is an either-or, right? If we don't get the five-for-five, this is the hedge on it. As for the actual committee who's going to make this decision, I could, the confluence of convoluted NCAA committees I will not bore you guys with. Thank you. Yeah.

It is going to be, you know, your general NCAA committee that's filled with athletic directors, probably some presidents, et cetera. And I just feel like holistically, college sports has to make a decision on eligibility. And it has to make one soon. just because, you know, you see all these seventh year, six year, all this stuff. Like, there just needs to be a little bit more certainty around that. And all the lawsuits, now the NCAA will tell you that it's been harder for them to enforce some of their rules because places like Tennessee is getting an injunction for Diego

Public. Like, there's all these things working against them on the micro level where it's been hard to set macro standards. And in this, this that passed in, you know, at the coaches convention this week, week is another is another example of that. So I feel like we'll get some clarity on five for five this offseason at some point. And if not, I would think that the red shirt switch would come into play more. But it is, you do have to chuckle like what's the difference in nine games and 12 games? You know, like that's, you know, that it is. Yeah. And who's that was.

And who's going to enforce it? If somebody says, I don't want to do it. Well, then there's another injunction. And then there's, well, how long does that go around? Who handles that? The courts, the local state courts because that's what's happening now with Winidad right down there in Ole Miss is his Mississippi court now after watching Winadad we think at the next level he he might he might do well yeah he might he might he might do well at the NFL not saying that he ever thought he wouldn't but just like watching him live in person it's like I don't think this is going to be the finality of him earning income by playing football I think he's going to make money playing football for a long time that's why the pavia stuff interesting like how many years was he going to be allowed to play

It's always like the guys that you don't know what's going to happen in the NFL or you think maybe not good in the NFL. But who enforces any of it? The local state laws, courts do? That's what's happening with Winnidad, right? Yes. So Trinidad Chandler's lawyer, Tom Mars, and a local attorney who actually founded Old Mrs. Collective are expected to file either tomorrow or early next week for an injunction to help secure his eligibility for 2026. Chapman. Chambers is a fascinating draft case, Pat, if you look at it. I made a few calls last week on, you know, what guys thought of him. And he's still like a third, fourth round type pick. Now, look,

quarterbacks value and need, those things often, you know, aren't in line, right? Like, there's probably seven teams that really need quarterbacks right now and would draft in this year. And it's hard to find, you know, seven viable quarterbacks who could be NFL starters coming up in this draft class, you know, especially with Dante Moore staying. Once you get past Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson, there's probably a pretty good gap on where you'd go. So it's an interesting crossroads for Chambliss because he would certainly make more money in college next year

than he would in the NFL next year. And if he has another season like he had, you would think he'd obviously grow as a passer. You would think maybe he's in good position for the 27 draft, But the 27 draft could be historically loaded with quarterbacks. You have Arch, you have Dante Moore, and there's a huge flurry of others. It's expected to be a once a decade-type depth quarterback class as everything comes together. So it'd be interesting for Chambliss.

He's an easy guy to root for, right? Like the story is unbelievable. You know, the performance against Georgia was probably the defining individual performance in college football this year, you could argue. You know, he's been a remarkable player. being around him a little bit in Phoenix last week, one of the Ole Miss staff members described it as bubbly. Like he just said, there's an effervescence around him. He's a remarkable kid and remarkable story.

Be great for college football if he's there. And ultimately, that's going to be up to an NCAA appeal or the courts in Mississippi, which Tom Marles, memorably said would be a more level playing field for the rebels. Yeah, it's a much more level playing field. The eyes are in the beholds. certainly in that whole thing.

Yeah, Trinidad is special. He looks sweet. He's thrown to a spot. He's doing all this stuff. Less need of the Rams, GM actually says. He likes the story of the guys coming from smaller schools and transferring up. Feels like they're hungry.

Feels like they're more humble. It's like, I think, you know, third, fourth round, sure, but let's see what happens with the draft class. And then you talked about his game against Georgia being a transformative one of the season. I agree. Fernando Mendoza has more touchdowns than interceptions in a college football playoff.

No. Incompletions. I'm sorry, incompletions. He has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entirety of the college football playoffs as far. So that's six-point throws versus throws to the other team. He has more two incompletions, I think, the last couple games each. It's been a methodical ass beating from Fernando Mendoza. Will they be able to do it against Miami? We find out big college game on Monday.

We'll see you down there. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies of gentlemen, that's Pete Damm. Thank you, baby. Good journalism there. The best. Hardball to the bottom of it. Didn't hear the first time because we had a bad connection, poor connection out there on the street. We appreciate you after joining us even whenever

it's all happening like that. But he hit that thing again. They had a plan and a deal basically in place whenever he left the building, had to get some other things figured out, some other eyes dotted, some other T's crossed. Happy they got that done. I'm watching Pete on ESPN on our show right there. He looks so cool when he is. He does. He does. He knows how to wear a tuk. He does. He certainly does, doesn't he? A lot of magical things happening in the football world. Commanders debuted what their new stadium is going to look like and

Garazzi. Looks like a monument. Yes, it does. It looks like it fits in perfectly for the surrounding area. It is obviously modern technology, modern engineering. It has a beautiful look to it. And I'm happy it doesn't look the exact same

as all of them. Now, they all start to look alike. Now, granted, the shape of a football field is certainly going to shape the stadium itself. You know, like the Ozzie Rose football down there. They have a big round. And the cricket grinds is a big round

because that's what it calls the game's call for. Football stadium going to be a football field shape. A lot of people say, these things all look the same. It's like, I think they're all going to have

a similar shape. I think they all are going to have a football field-like shape, even though somebody could come in and just put a big sphere around that thing and have a complete circle. So I love the way this looks.

I assume the lighting is going to be outrageous that they're going to have on these pillars. The primetime game is going to be crazy. And it's right there on the water. So we wonder about the water, especially down there in D.C. We did a little research. What is that water that's right next to that stadium?

And is that going to be a part of, are they going to be sailgating there at those commanders? Are we going to have boats on the water outside of the commanders monument stadium out there? These are all really, really good questions. And obviously, this is being built at the site of the old RFK stadium. And

that is the, and a Hostia River, Pat. It's about nine miles long, named after the Anacostin Native Americans of that region back in the time. So it's basically a tribute river to them. Tell you what. Which is good. That's good for a Brent. That's good for

what's going on. Maybe change the name. Maybe it leaves it. Maybe that's a tributary. It's quote unquote D.C.'s forgotten river. You ask, tone, why is that the case? Well, they had a lot of sewage problems. Okay. So when it rained heavily and stuff like that, the sewage

runoff into this river. Cause problems for years and years and years. There was lawsuits in 2004 and 2011. Oh, no. The Anacoste was getting used by poop. Yeah, not a lot of people going in there. And the people living on the Anacoste, they were like, bingo.

This river is full of poop. Yeah. That's what this river is. It's a poopy river. But I have good news. Due to the Clean Rivers Project, which is supposed to be completed in 2030, which is around probably when the stadium is supposed to be completed. well. We're going to have a brand new, beautiful smelling Anacostia River.

2030? 2030. This is a river that John Smith. You know, John's, anyone, everyone, Captain John Smith, everyone. Captain John Smith, Oklahoma, sure. Yeah, and he helped found Jamestown. This is a river that he sailed up. And this is a river that played the integral part in the Civil War. This is a river that is a forgotten river in D.C.

And hopefully, no more. Vingo. And all this will we turn it to its full glory. Yeah, and I'm happy for the Anacoste. kind of getting back at it. Was the poop river associated with the poop pipes of the old stadium? Had to have been. A lot of poop kind of running around what's going on in the commander's past.

Yes. Although they did just have a very poopy season as well. Well, that's because they had some poopy injuries. Yeah. But I did not know that the commanders were going to be surrounded by poop all the time. They've gotten a poop completely out. Yeah, Queen Rivers Project said, the commanders of old, the poopy. Very, very poopy.

Yep. Poopie. Commanders are of the past. We're going to clean this river. Poop no more. No more. We're going to make sure these pipes aren't bursting on people's heads that are carrying the poop

through the Anacostia. Because that was happening at the last day. It was. People just walking around at the state, I'm watching this team. They used to have a different name. It used to be good. And the ownership seemingly hates us.

Everybody hates everything. And boom, pipe bursts as they're carrying their nachos. What's coming out? Boom. Boom. nachos, eat it. That's not beans.

That's not beans. That's what was happening in the stadium. Yeah. And now you're telling me that river is going to be a clean river. And their poop pipes are no longer going to burst. They got Jaden Daniels. Dan Quinn moves on completely from his defense coordinator and his offense coordinator.

He's as we. Something new is need. We can't do what we just did. That, what we just did was very, very poopy. Yeah. It's moved on. Clean Rivers Project, their stadium. They clean rivers project their team and they clean rivers project the Anacostia River that they're putting their stadium on.

I'll tell you what, brighter days ahead, less pure days ahead. Yeah, I think the end goal is to have the Anacostia maybe rival the Potomac. And then in return, the command. Good luck. Potomac, very big. Yeah, very big. Very, very big. But we can dream, can't we?

Anacostia can. I think it's going to be tough whenever this. showed on a map, but it could be a mighty nine miles. Very mighty. But there's another river that they call mighty, I think. That one is the big one. Yeah, it is. You think there's any concern that if the commanders aren't great

after the river's been cleaned up, people start saying, you know what? No, I'm going to go take a shit in the Anacostia. The last time we were good, the last time we went to an NFC championship game, the Anacostia was loaded with poop, and now it's clean. So after the game, everybody, actually halftime, everybody go outside, don't go to the bathrooms, take a shit in the Anacostia. said. Well, that's why they need to just do full-blown war on poop. Nobody

really is pro-poop, unless it's healthy, of course. But no one wants to smell like that. So when we're talking about the stadium as a whole, because looking at it, it is open for AI into toilet bowl, just the shape of it. But they could do full, hey, let's name this stadium,

you know, Charmin Ultra, the Charmin Stadium. Oh, to clean up the pool. Yeah, the Port-a-Pottie Stadium. You know? Some wipes poop. Exactly. They need to lean into it almost, like, hey, yeah, so what? We had poop pipes. We have a poop river, but now we are the ones leading the charge against.

But I think what they're saying is we don't have to do all that because we're not going to be synonymous with poop anymore. I think that's, they're trying to do that angle. But I respect what you're saying, if you can't beat that poop in the river. Five and 12, you know? Remember the Olympics? They tried. Loaded. They tried. That person got sick. Yeah, got

in there, yeah. The mayor jumped in there. Didn't, yeah. Jumped into the sand. Gargling it. Over in a bit. Look, we're telling you, the river's clean. We've got to do this Olympic rate and everybody's like, I don't think so. Smelled like poop for two months. People who ran the, or did the whole race side, decathlon or whatever. No, they did not.

They got like a stomach poison sickness from the poop. Speaking of, I do have a health advisory. We think once poop gets in, it's hard to get out. It is. But we are hoping that they are able to get the poop out of the Anacostia because that stadium on that river was sailgating happening on the outside of that with the drone shots that they have these days. Did you see the drone shot of Pittsburgh?

Oh yeah. The other night? Yeah. That might have been the most beautiful shot I've ever seen in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, obviously, coming out of Fort Pitt Tunnel, you have the best view in all cities, I think, is the title. Them having this as the shot coming back, right down to point right there. Allegheny on one side, Menongahela on the other.

They come to create the Ohio River, which obviously goes over to Ohio. It's three rivers. That's the point that you were seeing there. There is the city that resides inside of it. We have the most bridges out of any city in the world because of how much water kind of surrounds our town, which I don't want to say immediately leads to a lot of Italians because there's a lot of water, a lot of moving, okay, things like that.

These rivers never been talked about as being ones that you go ahead and get in, okay? There's been a lot of chatter about cleaning these rivers. Since I'm probably born and probably before I was around, when I wasn't even thought of, about cleaning these rivers. It feels like it's really hard to clean rivers. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is

really hard to clean rivers. Now, that one's only nine miles. Hopefully they're able to clean it because that has a chance to be the best look and set up in all of all. Oh, yeah. Can I tell you? part of how they're cleaning it. Yeah. Fun fact.

If you go to D.C., don't eat the muscles. Okay? 2018, they dumped 9,000 muscles into the Anacosti River because muscles, they eat, they get rid of shit like no other creatures. That's where they grow because they eat it down. Muscles love poop. Mushrooms love poop. The muscles have already purified 32 million gallons of water.

Mushrooms do them. Mushrooms love poop as well. They grow from poop, but muscles, they can't get enough. They just suck down poop. Like, there's no. They're the biggest commander's fans. But if you're in D.C., don't eat the muscles. Or the poop.

I'm assuming they're not getting Anacostia River. I would hope not. But if they're in a tough spot, they said in the way, we need to get you down to Anacostis. Congrats to them getting a great stadium, though. Feels like everybody has said like, hey, really good stadium. Also, congrats to tennis. We've been talking about tennis a little bit more than we could have ever imagined. Shout to Ben Shelton, right?

He's the stud with Trinity Rodman. Ben Sheldon. I met him down in Atlanta, knows the program, watches the program. Also, immediate shit talk, immediate, which I respect and I appreciate, very tall, very handsome. Strapping a lot. Very, yeah, he is a guy. So obviously, I want to get into tennis because I would like to support him because he seems like cool dude. I like what he's doing and representing out here.

So we like that a lot. But tennis has been doing some stuff that makes them interesting. We remember the story from last week, I believe, where some lady who's clearly never played tennis before ended up in an actual tennis tournament and just got absolutely smoked, but laughed the whole time. Yeah. Got a point because the other. person got a fault who was an actual professional tennis player. It looked just as hilarious as it sounds. This is real. This happened

in the tennis world. Now, to tee up for the Australian Open, which is all the way down under downer. Long flight, but obviously the Australian Open, a big one in the tennis world. Beautiful area. They did something I've never seen before, and this is incredible, conman. Incredible. It was one of the greatest pieces of sporting kind of news. You could

probably watch. It was called the million dollar one point slam. It was 48 total players, both men and women, both pros, amateurs, and some celebrities, one of the celebrities being Bailey Smith, our friend from the AFL, of course, as we all remember. But Jordan Smith, who ended up beating Bailey to start out this tournament, was an amateur 29 years old from Australia, and he beat Bailey Smith, Laura Pagosie, who's the women's world number 86 ranked tennis player, Yonick Sinner,

who's the number two tennis player in the world for men's. Amanda Anisimova, who is also also the world's number four for women. Pedro Martinez, not the baseball player, the tennis player. And then in the final, Joanna Garland. And he won a million dollars. It was one point the entire way. Yonix Center actually had a double fault. That's how he lost.

It was incredible. Rock paper scissors to decide who serves. Okay, because obviously serving is an advantage in tennis. The amateurs got two faults, you know, got a fault and then got a chance to serve. So two serves, one fault. The pros did not get a fault. so sinner faults on him. He loses just one serve for the pros,

two for the amateurs. I looked into this. I love this. How many people were in it as total? 48 total people, 16 amateurs like Jordan Smith who qualified throughout different matches in Australia. It's a brilliant idea.

Yeah. It is a brilliant idea. It's awesome. One million bucks, one point. A little exciting. Tennis has been trying to do it. Yeah. Dennis has been trying to do it, honestly.

And there was a time where tennis was pop culture very relevant, obviously, because the characters that are playing tennis. and they certainly still have great people. But their sport also has the chance to be a little bit more electric. You know, like their setups are certainly what they are. You know, and I think the Brits get after it right over there. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Wimbledon, our friend told us about Nigel. Nigel, they get after it in there. So it's like, I think tennis has a lot of opportunity. And we are appreciating what they're doing. And we don't think amateur should be playing against pros all the time. But like a million dollar gimmick state fare like shit, yeah, to drum up a little interest in the Australian Open. Yeah, I like that that.

happening in the tennis world. Awesome. Now I know the Australian Open's going on for one, let alone to what you were saying about tennis, they have the two young guys. They have the younger versions of the legends. It feels like Federer and Joker and people of that ilk. But with Alcaraz and Sinner also participating in this stuff, feels like a massive deal too.

Not just as the tennis people trying to drum up conversation about it, but their biggest stars are also like, hey, yeah, we're all in on this. Okay, so tennis is electric. We like that going as we head into less football here. Yeah, we like the tennis is doing that. Golf's coming back soon, I believe. Yeah, TGL the other night. Okay, TGL the other nights.

Stoney Open today. The Open starting today. Brooks Kepka is back with the PGA. I mean, there is good stuff happening. We got to remember that. In college hoops, even though there's obviously some investigations going on at different levels, they're delivering. Last night, we had four buzzer beaters.

Let's go to Ole Miss beating Georgia, number 21, 97-99. put back Pat and Pickens Ole Miss wins 97-95 at the buzzer in Georgia. Congratulations to them. That's great. Hey, Coach Beard, hey, it took him a while. A couple months ago he was

basically saying, what are we going to do to win? He said, well, I could sit everyone's ass and play new players. Those guys have seemingly kind of responded. Look for Ole Miss down the stretch here in a tough SEC. Oh, maybe he's built a culture down there. Maybe. Late putback by Patton Pinkins. And let's go do Kentucky in the Bayou, taking on

on LSU. Buzzer, beater, long ball, catch, shoot, very reminiscent of Christian Leightner.

Malachi Morano with the incredible bucket. Catch, turn, great throw, by the way. Not a loaded quarterback draft class in the NFL.

Something to think. Something to think about here. That was precision and also through a three ball, you know, through a three ball, which is up and over, which is what he had to do

to make sure his guy was the only guy that could catch that. And then Malachi Marino, with the quickness and also awareness of when he has to get that out, splash like he was born for the moment. Yeah, and you can see there at Kentucky's 10 and 6. They needed that big time. You saw Pope at the end with his hands up like, holy hell.

Thank goodness we won this game, especially against LSU massive victory for the wild game. Yeah, and the SEC's tough. Look, LSU is 12 and 4, their own three in the SEC. That's right. Kentucky's 10 and 6, they're 1 and 3 in the SEC. Any SEC wins, a good win, especially whenever you got magic happening full length of the quarter. Can you go back to that video, pointing out at the very end? Yeah, they got got got to score.

The one and two at the bottom for Kentucky, the O and three for LSU, changes to one and three, one and three, because they thought that game was over. Oh, did that? Here you go. The one and three, one. No, no, no. They said not so fast, my friend.

Coach Corso, hope you're great. What a wild finish. We'd love to hear Dickie V on that cold. Maybe. It's unbelievable. Okay, let's go down to SMU. Don 2 against Virginia Tech. 2.6 seconds left.

SMU, obviously, in Dallas. Let's not just look for the shot. Let's look for the fire off the top of the back pole. B. Miller. Pyrro. What a name. Great name. Boopi from Half Court.

Electrifying time down there at Moody Coliseum. David B. Miller, Court. Shout out to the SMU Mustangs. In that type of pyro? Perfect for the moment. Whoever's on the trigger, the button for the pyro, you did it. Respect. I mean, the timing in which it falls, how we go to.

and in the power sheet and the amount of power this flame have like they don't know how much gas they got left. No. This is the end of the game. Yeah. Yeah, we are, we're doing the entirety. Congratulations to SMU getting a huge win. And then in women's college hoop, I don't like it.

No. In morning time. What? In the Hope Coliseum. I wonder how long it's been named that. Oh. Buckets. Oh, no.

Fifty-150 T-CU. gets a win over a very, very tough West Virginia Mountaineer team. West Virginia currently 4-1 in the Big 12 TCU as well. 16 and 1 verse 14 and 3 in Morgantown. And unbelievable shot by Marta Suarez. Yeah. I mean, Mara Suarez is ice cold, dude. That's what you just need to know.

What are you going to do? You know? I mean, can we get a hand up maybe? That's what we're going to do. Good God. What do you mean? Can we get pressure? There's a hand in the face.

Can we get pressure? Give me a little bit of ball pressure. You think Arna Suarez is going to pull up for three if you're heard? No, you think she's going to try getting an easier shot. That's fine. Let's go to extra time. You've got to respect that she might, you know, take that to the cup. But look at the jab step.

Take it to the cup. There's three, there's 2.8 seconds left. You never know. Then the thought is, you know, yeah, I'm not, I'm going to get. Westerners go basketball team. I hope. They beat. Good record.

I just saw it. I mean, Iowa State last week. Great handling. Iowa State's leaking oil. right now, unfortunately. You don't want to be a monster in this particular time. That's true. We'll be a monster in March. Let's keep our eyes.

Let's get there. You want to make the tournament, though. Yeah, let's get there. Okay, we are. Definitely, as Iowa State Cyclones go to make tournaments, so is West Virginia an absolute stud group of basketball players. Let's go to the top 25 for the men. Anything we need to notice here, Foxy, that you've kind of circled in your eyes.

You know, Arizona number one, Iowa State, number two. Yukon, number three. How many people are there's undefeated or something along those lines? Two undefeated teams left. Arizona and then arguably the biggest story of this year so far. Nebraska is undefeated. Fred Hoyberg, former head coach at Iowa State. I think he's at one point he was their all-time leading score and then he went and coached in the NBA was the head coach of the Bulls for a while. He went to Nebraska and they have, we remember Ksay Tominaga a couple years ago, but

they are legit and they've already beat quite a few ranked teams, good teams in the Big Ten. Miss Tomenaga, big time. Our guy, Colpeet for Arizona. He's damn near player of the year for college basketball in his inaugural year to the entire thing. He's probably going to be, you know, top of a big bang. Unbelievable. Yeah, this kid is legit. If I remember, offense alignment, dad, I think, and brother. Would be great in a place that has a really good point guard

who's very good at passing to work with a la Indianapolis, Indiana. Tyrese Halliburton certainly get more healthy and healthy by the day. We're happy and proud of him for the work he's put in. Also, Coa, thank you for letting us be a part of your story. and also, congrats on dominating out there. So college hoops is hitting. Yeah, it really is. Like, right now you're starting to get into the teeth of conference play.

So, like, there are good games every single night, especially as football is ending here. There's at least probably, like, one to two top 25 matchups that will be happening on most Tuesdays and Thursday. All right, as we wrap up hour one here, we got some interesting details from the Coach Tomlin team meeting that happened at 2 o'clock on Tuesday. fascinating stuff about how emotional got in there. Both we have the Christian Coons podcast where he talks about it and then a report from Defaubo, the athletic writer for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Fascinating, you know, information from both of them.

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but this is a bad deal. This is not a good deal. That's what the red dot is. Yep. Changed our life. Green dot is, hey, this is good deal. You should feel very comfortable doing this.

Now, you're going to say, well, I don't trust it. Well, you can look and do it yourself. And any company that's willing to tell you is a bad deal, we appreciate CK spend like that since the beginning. Yeah. Now, granted, I think we got green dots whenever we bought these tickets for these giveaways.

Sure. They're expensive. Very, very expensive. This is an insanely expensive big college game, and that's because there's so much story in history that could be made that evening down there at the Hard Rock. Miami win at home? Indiana win.

Yeah. Both. Huge. We're going to be on the sideline for another field pass. Potentially final field. We'll see. We'll see how that goes. We've enjoyed it. We don't like to run things in the ground, though. Yeah. You know? We don't like to do that. But field pass is the coolest thing that we get to do. We're so thankful we're going to be there.

Join us on ESPN2. Tox table here at Bosset Conner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer. Don Cowboys AP Ton is here. Conman, huge weekend of bulk. coming up, especially for your Patriots. Yeah, very jacked up, especially jacked up for kind of the first games on Saturday. You know, the one seeds we haven't seen play.

A lot of fodder around the Seahawks and Broncos. And now we finally get to watch them play. A couple of playoff games on, yeah, Sunday. We don't have to get into how pumped I am for the Patriots game itself. I'm excited to see how the weather turns out because we got some weather updates yesterday. And the New England weather has, yes, there it is, boom, has very much kind of turned to a wintery storm, cold kind of situation. But Illinois in Chicago, they're saying it's going to be zero degrees.

So you better buckle up. You better be ready. You better have some ham warmers. And for Caleb and Stafford, you know, I'm hearing a lot of people talk about Stafford not being able to play in the cold as if he's some bum in his second year in the NFL. That doesn't really make much sense. I believe he played at the old Viking Stadium, not just the new one indoors. And then, of course, Caleb, you know, here we go.

can he do three quarters of absolute shite and then turn around in the fourth? It's going to be great to watch these things play out and then go into the conference championship weekend. Over under 48 and a half, it's going to feel like it's single digits, if not zero degrees there. You automatically think, oh, this is going to be tight football. It's going to be low football. 24. One person had 25. One team have 24.

That's what it would make. That's a lot of scoring. You would think to yourself, HEMBO sends some stats over. The over is 18 and 9 in playoff games with freezing kickoffs over the last 10 seasons. That does not make it a guarantee. Obviously, batting 100% more on the other side than the loss column is a little bit different. But what's that? Well, freezing is 32.

Yeah, but still. Yeah, but still, it's cold, they're saying. You've talked about it before. Hey, look, 32 in zero. Yeah, there's a big deal, especially when you're talking about wind gusts up to 20 MPH. Yeah, the Tennessee volunteers, I think, learned that a little bit. It's called Tennessee. Yeah.

It's cold. We got snow here. get ice here. We have it all. Zero's a little bit different. But cold games in the playoffs, allegedly, if you're talking about from a HEMBO statistic point, it's like, don't just necessarily bet it all on the under because you're naturally going to think that it's going to be poopy football. Yeah, there's normally an overreaction from the people in the books thinking it's going to be super low scoring. So I...

There's a chance it is, though. Let's not get crazy. 20-8-mountain-R-Gus. And I would be, I would love to see what the average over-under for those games is, because 48 and a half for those type of games is 48 and a half is not a low total. And that's not surprising because the the Bears defense while very, very, very opportunistic does give up some points. And obviously they have a really good offense with Caleb.

And then the Rams offense is also very good. But they've got some points recently as well. So I would not personally, would not be shocked to see it go over, but the wind. Like we've always talked about it. It's not necessarily the cold always. It's that up to 28-hour gusts.

That's some real significant wind. 25, I guess, NFL weather.com is saying, but still 25, 28, 30, 40, what is real, what is not, especially in Chicago, if it's that cold. Okay. Wind at that temperature is obviously a nightmare. 48 and a half feels like a lot. It feels like a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Day Packers. Oh, he's used to a frozen tundra game.

Lives for it. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, AJ Hawke. Hawker, the wind is the nightmare, especially for the offensive. side of things. It's going to be cold. There's going to be a little bit of weather. NFLweather.com, hilarious thing. I believe a guy named Rick just kind of started it as a hobby. Just kind of offers it up to the world. You're welcome.

He's kind of his contribution to society, right, Bruce? Yeah, passion project. There are a couple ads on there. I'm zoomed in so you can't see them right now. But yeah, it's free, free for NFL fans. Just know what's going on and obviously great for gambling as well. I mean, there's only a matter of time before Rick at NFLweather.com is approached by somebody because this is a great piece of information.

wherever you're talking about any of the games, especially in the gambling world, whenever you're talking about it. Chicago can certainly get chilly, AJ. What are your thoughts on Matthew Stafford, who's obviously very veteran man of the NFC North and has obviously played in tough conditions, and the L.A. Rams travel to that.

And Caleb, you know, I know he's the Bears quarterback, but how many of these games has he played in? You know, that's like Aaron Rogers, California guy, and obviously he played at Cal Berkeley, and I'm sure he had some cold games. But when you ask him about why he played so well at Green Bay, it's like it sucks, she's got to embrace the suck, and also my hands are gigantic. Yeah.

You know, so that's kind of the thing. It becomes a mental kind of win over the other team. But Caleb very new there. It's almost like Stafford has more experience in this particular weather maybe than Caleb would. Interesting dynamic as we look at it age. Yeah, it is. And obviously both these guys have crazy live arms that can throw in this kind of weather. We know that, but it's true.

It's all about the wins. Like nothing affects like the total score I feel like of a game more than the win situation. If it's like 5 to 10 every once on whatever, but if it's gusting 25 to 30-mile-hour wind, that absolutely has a huge effect on both offenses, the kicking game. Everything just becomes more and more difficult. And mentally, you know, you can find out who's who.

Not that these guys in a divisional round are going to be anything but dogs. Dogs are everywhere. But mentally, when the wind gets going and it's cold and you start losing, like if you're not going to play good for like three quarters, that weather can be an added beat down. You know, that can be an added beatdown. We watch it. Very different story.

but we watch it with Tennessee versus Ohio State. There was a moment where it was like, this is the worst night of our lives. Get us out of here. How do you do that? That can happen when the weather gets terrible and cold and windy. Yeah, and if you go back to a year ago with the Rams, we talked about this before,

they played the Eagles in the snowstorm. We remember Sequan banging on his head running into the end zone, but the Rams were driving down the field, Pooka Nakua, damn near going in to win, and then Eagles win the Super Bowl. So we're going to find out if the weather is a home field advantage for the home team is what we're going to

find out. For one of the games. We would assume for one of the games. Let's not say that in a very general sense. For Chicago, we're going to find out. Okay, another thing, though, here for Chicago. They've been training for this, allegedly. Adam Hodge, a journalist, is reporting. Ben Johnson has been making the Bears practice in the cold without heaters this season.

Kevin Byrd laughed and said, it's been a complaint amongst the players, but it's going to pay off this weekend. We've been miserable all season. With the complaining that happens, we've already done it. We've already don't know the complaining. And Ben Johnson, the night before that speech, right before the game, you know, doing all of it, just saying like, you've been cold, remember? You remember,

you were yelling. That's what today is. You're no longer scared of the cold. You were born in the cold, almost, because it is an added fuel to how, because feel good, play good, you know? Cold can make you not feel good. Cold can definitely mentally get into some guys' heads pregame. You go out there to pregame for the first time your whole team gets together, all right, here we go. And you go out there and you feel the win and you feel how cold it actually is. And there's definitely guys that are going to be on that field that it will be the coldest game they've ever been a part of. Some guys will get all gassed up by it and say this is awesome.

And some guys will be like, who, hopefully they run the ball today. And this is a quick one is I don't want to be out here too long. Excited for football weather football. Yes. We have made it the divisional round. We have a head coach that has been hired, AJ. John Harbaugh hired as the New York Giants head coach last night around 1150 p.m. I would have thought he maybe had a bedtime.

but then I remember Hardball probably doesn't sleep. You know, still working out. Harbaugh probably doesn't sleep much. He's the new leader of the New York Football Giants. Your thoughts, AJ, is it kind of look like this was going to happen, but officially does? Yeah, definitely you could see this coming. It really, I don't know what it is like the New York Giants brand. It seems to mesh well with having John Harbaugh coming there.

You know, you hear about him being a disciplinary and holds guys accountable, all of that stuff. So, yeah, this makes a lot of sense. And what they, what's this deal? Give him crazy amount of money, too, to come in there, which I understand. this isn't about the money for a guy like Harbaugh, but it's probably the best opportunity he has. Five years, $100 million, obviously New Jersey taxes in that entire thing. So you add that in, you factor that in. Like other states, he was in Maryland, so I assume he had already, you know,

accounted for all of that as he rolls forward. But five years, $100 million, which immediately led me to say, well, then that means LaFleur. Okay, LaFleur now knows exactly where the market is, right, if he was to be negotiating with the Packers. And Sheffers said they both expect a deal to be done, both the Packers and LaFleur. It's like, okay, well, maybe Harbaugh has helped LaFleur's contract a little bit, or maybe Harbaugh is kind of set up what these coaches' contracts are going to look like going forward. 20 million a year, obviously Harbaugh, very accomplished, is a big number. That's a big number.

I think Tomlin, there was a report that he had 50 million remaining, two years left, 50 million. Yeah. So he was making 25 million a year. Is that how it read? That is how I read it as well, yes. So I guess that is like a number that They came in McVeigh We don't know

There's no official thing where it's only if the owners And the team decides to tell you what they're making Right or the agent of the coach Yeah that's why whenever I saw five year $100 million I'm like oh they're reporting that like a player Yeah like a player That usually is not the case Maybe that is Mara telling the other ownership

Good luck This is what we got to do You got to do it too Everybody's going to have to pay it If we know it everybody's going to know what the new comp is Not a bad gig, take that head coaching role getting $20 million. Not that Harbaugh, obviously, isn't set and has been a very successful for a long time. And we assume he's got businesses. So, man. So good business. I don't know if he's

with Jimmy's famous or not. That would have been a good investment while he was there. Who knows if he's gone from that whole thing. But congrats to Harbaugh, congrats the Giants. Yeah, need to get a camera on him and Scataboo's first conversation. Not sure if Harbaugh is aware of what Scataboo's been up to. Need that. And then also, the Giants are one of the most attractive jobs, right? They got the quarterback and you get a top five pick. Like, could you imagine if John Harbaugh goes in there and he's like, okay, yeah, I'll take Caleb Downs.

And then they have one of the better young cores in the entire NFL right off the back. D-Line, too. I think the D-line definitely enticed him. He was excited about that D-line and what they can do. He has to hire an O.C. and a D.C. Now, granted, there's a lot of OCs potentially available or any of them very great.

I guess Harbaugh would have to decide that. There was a conversation allegedly that he wanted to stick with Munkin and I'll move on, but that was all when fodder was kind of out there to make excuses for why a separation happened. We don't know what's real and what isn't real. And there was a report last night. I can't remember which insider said, but it was a legit one that said that they kind of expect Munkin to go with him to be the O.C. On your point, kind of legit.

Rappaport was the guy. He's kind of legit. Todd Munkin is among the assistants expected to join John Harbaugh. Okay, so there it is. He didn't say coordinator, though. He didn't say to join as the coordinator. Yeah, I think he's probably just going to be special assistant to the wait room. It was a quote tweet about the offensive coordinator.

He's already had an interview with the Browns for head coach, though. So I think it's safe to assume that if he's getting head coaching interviews, that he's going to be going as the offensive coordinator. Yeah, and we also now know with the Bashati interview that, yeah, Harbaugh was gone no matter what. There wasn't some sort of like, hey, you're not fired Monkner, I'm gone. No, Harbao is getting fired. We know now, so that was complete bullshit.

Another week. What an answer by Steve Bashani. I hope he does more press conferences. Needed. I hope more things happen with him. Now, granted, the only time he has to speak is when things aren't going great, I guess. Yeah. Have to show face, you know?

Yeah. Like ownership has to show face whenever things aren't going well. Hey, we got a whole new thing going about to happen. I would like, well, you know, you can entrust me with the decisions we're going to make. And Steve Bichotty did it in his own way that makes us say, we need more Bishotti. Love that guy. And Bishotti's saying, I don't want anybody to know I exist. No, he's ready to settle a team.

He just needs to win a couple more Super Bowl. Somebody sent me a quote from him from a previous interview. Somebody tweeted it to me, I believe. And obviously, who knows if it's real or not real, but it's certainly in the vein or something I think he would say. They say the only thing being better than being rich and famous is being rich, and they just walked off. That's an incredible quote.

That is an incredible quote. I don't know if he said it. Whoever did say that, I would like to let them know that's an incredible bar. and if it was Bishotti, we need him on a microphone more. Yeah, we need that to certainly happen. Other things happening around the NFL that we're learning about, the Mike Tomlin team meeting where he informed the boys that he was going to step down. I think we're starting to get a little bit more information from the scene in the room where it happened.

Here's Christian Coons on the Christian Coons podcast. A little bit more information on him. He's the long snapper for the Pittsburgh Steelers has been since 2020. He is the all-time leading tackler, I believe, for the Duke Canes. Dukes, which is a college within Pittsburgh. It literally sits on top of the hill on top of the Allegheny County Jail in the middle of downtown Pittsburgh. He went to

high school at Shar Valley, which is in Pittsburgh. This is Pittsburgh Kid basically playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers as a long snapper. Here's him talking about what Tomlin said to him and his kind of thoughts on what the messaging was. I don't know how much I'm allowed, you

really allowed to share, but I will, you know, he didn't make a point that, you know, he didn't have no desire to really coach any other football team but the group of guys that he was looking at with this group of guys so he did say that to us can things change you could offer you know you know 20 million to go he'll get whatever coaching job like whatever he wants whatever the hell he wants to do the dude's going to do so but like he did make a point to tell us you know in there that um he was stepping down and um he had no intentions on coaching any other guys but the guys that he's looking at in the crew that he yeah so like

he had much much respect and obviously like, you know, guys like Cam Hayward are in there that have been with them for 15 years. I knew there's been there nine years. Yeah. Did you guys have any anticipation that this was about to happen? Was there any sort of like energy going on? Bro, I'm telling you right now there was the only weird energy going on is when you lose, it sucks. Right, of course.

Garbage guys are clearing out their locker. Guys are trying to get out of town quick. Like, guys are trying to get exit physicals. There was no weird, you know, feeling besides that we lost and everyone's pissed that the season's over. And, like, we were, we were just. we found out, you know, by the time we got out of the meeting and he had told us, it was on. Yeah.

So he kind of echoes the sentiment that we're hearing from the athletic reporter, the fobo, who came out and reported that T.J. Watts said numerous times while the message was being delivered, no, no, no, no. They said Joey Porter Jr. got emotional and started almost hyperventilating and crying in the room while the message was being delivered. And then he reported that at the end of the. meeting, as is such, you know, for the locker room after a game where, you know, Tom was there to greet just like Coach Rable is, whatever. They did one last kind of take the tractor, another round,

where he was at the door and basically dapped up everybody as they won through. So whenever you talk about emotional meeting in an emotional time, it felt like they were right in the middle of all of that, AJ. And I don't know if you've talked to Aaron, but it sounds like the players in the room so locked in on everything that they were trying to accomplish this year had no thoughts that this was what this meeting was going to be, which is, I guess now kind of crazy to think about, but that's literally what a locker room and a coach is supposed to do is keep his players so laser focused on something as opposed to all the outside noise, AJ. Yeah, I've never, I don't know about you.

I've never been in a situation like that's where a coach has stepped down and told the whole team, like in a big team meeting that he wasn't. I know you had back and forth with Rich Rod where he thought he was going to go and he didn't in all that situation. But I think the thing where it says one of the assistants claimed it felt like a funeral. That's what it feels like a receiving line. Like Tomlin was at the, you know, at a funeral. Unfortunately, the family has to stand at the casket and like have a receiving line when people come into the viewing.

That's what this felt like when everyone was walking out. And obviously it's not a funeral. And Tomlin has, you know, led these guys for so long. But yeah, the fact that they are so like caught off guard is a little bit surprising. I guess maybe in their mind they thought, I don't know, maybe it's possible. But, you know, it's Mike T. He's not going anywhere. So I guess when it was official to them, that probably made him, that's when it really hit home. Yeah, 19 years.

obviously a very long time. That's a building becoming an adult into its adulthood, sophomore in college, you know, from literally birth of 19 years. So, you know, Rooney and the family and the Steelers building also probably pretty emotional. The players, though, is very fascinating to me how they responded. And obviously, that bodes well for anybody who wonders about the type of coach that Tomlin was to these guys. Yeah, I've talked to a few different people in different areas of the building. The entire building was shocked and very, very bummed out. and what DeFabo wrote. A lot of people that I talked to,

they said, yeah, it was kind of like a funeral in there. There was definitely tears. A lot of them, no one blamed Mike Tomlin for the losses or whatever they have had this year. There was some talk about, you know, maybe they expected change with coordinators, but they never expected a change at the top. Tomlin had a year left on his contract and all the players expected him to finish that out. yes, it was a shock to all of them. I think it was a shock to most of the building.

And it just shows, like, yes, the wins and losses didn't go everyone's way that we wanted to the last few years, five, seven years or whatever. But, I mean, the impact that he had on all of his players' lives was incredible. Well, and also, it felt like all of Pittsburgh, emotional bunch, blue-collar bunch, you know, a lot of Italians, a lot of Irish people, a lot of emotional folks, you know, that ilk of individual. Oh, yeah.

And it's like afterwards, it's like, we are thankful for him, though. Like everybody in Pittsburgh, I think, has the same message like, hey, we appreciate the hell out of what you did for Pittsburgh immediately afterwards. Day of, this guy needs to be gone. Okay, let's get this guy out. The last four years, get this guy out of the fire Tomlin chance in the stadium happening from Pittsburgh people. And then as soon as it's announced that he stepped down, Pittsburgh people like, he did the right thing.

And we appreciate it. him for that. It does feel like there is not a lot of like negative juice from Pittsburgh to coach Tomlin at this moment at all. And normally it takes a couple years, right? Like normally there's like a couple year transition period where they like hate a guy, let's move on, yada, yada, yada. And I'm not just directly talking about the Patriots and everything like that. But usually there is like a couple year turnover where it's like, yeah, we will look back and thank what he. James Franklin at Penn State would be a good one. Like I think they will look at. Parthian and Green Bay. Like a couple years where it takes a little bit to like kind of respect and appreciate.

what it is. It feels like Pittsburgh is a place that like immediately upon it happening, they were like, thank you for what you did and thank you for what you have done. And I think they genuinely feel that way. And it sounds like the entire building, including the players, didn't want it to end, but also feel the exact same way. Everybody really grateful for Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh. That's abnormal these days, I think, you know, for a coach, especially at a place for how long he's been in certainly a city like Pittsburgh, I think. Yeah, and it's kind of interesting seeing the, you know, correlation between Pittsburgh and Baltimore right now. They're kind of both going through that same thing where they were done

with their legendary coach. It's just like putting an old dog down. You know, like you can see it coming and you know that it's the best move for your family. But on the day of putting the dog down, it's sad. It's going to bum you out. And it might last a couple days. But, you know, three days later, one week later,

all you're thinking about is the good times you had with old yellow, you know, with old red. That's just part of getting rid of a legendary coach. But that is also the nice part of it. Like, as a New England fan, it is nice being removed and a little different. but still, it is nice being removed from the Bill era and then seeing old Cliffs.

It's like, oh, that's such a good time. Now, Red was the damnedest dog. Yeah, it was. That I had ever seen. You know what's all I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. I know Red. I mean, you couldn't escape Red.

No, uh. His nose? Fast. Get to it. But the thing that Red had was a hunger for lovemaking. That's right. And Blake took advantage. He did.

They did. Blake took advantage. One over the warden. Take that dog outside. Oh, blue thick hand down the street this way. Keep them away for a few days. That's old red, baby. All of a sudden, we're going, boom.

He's going. Tennessee. You know, there's a chance that he's gone and seen. That you do think about the good times of dogs like red. No matter what, especially not even on the day. You know, 20 years from now, you're going to be thinking about old red. No matter who, you know, you know. your current dog is.

You're always going to have that moment, that moment, that comparison to the two. And maybe the new dog's better, but the old dog still has got some of those tricks. Speaking of a new dog having to come into a lot of buildings, more specifically, the Pittsburgh Steelers one, Steelers president, Art Rooney the second, said he and general manager Omar Khan will lead to Steelers head coach in search. Omar Khan was quite a little saying, I ain't telling you anything. Yep. That is basically how he operates.

He comes on our show. I think he likes us. He has told us that he likes us. He obviously knows the show. I feel like because we have Pittsburgh representation, people in Pittsburgh are forced to kind of know of our show. He's come on the show, though, very rarely will give up anything. Very rarely. I mean, this guy plays his cards close to his vest, and he plays it very different than old Pittsburgh Steelers regime with Colbert. He does his own thing. So I'll be excited to see what he looks for as opposed to what the old Pittsburgh Steelers would have looked for. There's a chance he kind of writes his own kind of story with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like he already has. has been doing over the last couple of years. Yes, obviously Omar's going to have a ton of say,

but Art Roney the second is also going to be involved. And obviously he knew how his predecessors, his family has hired. He was actually the one who announced Tomlin as the hiring. And I think there's an early indication. Chuck Knoll was a DC, a young DC, Bill Cowher was a young DC. Mike Tomlin was a young DC. Right now, so far, their interviews,

they have six young DCs, and then the one offensive guy in Nate Shieldhast, who is also young. but the oldest right now is halfway at 45. Everyone is 45 or younger. Six D.C.'s 1-0C they've requested. We're looking for 20 years here. Who can be the 20-year coach?

Isn't that what everybody's looking for, though? Yep. That's why it's a huge hire because the Steelers have been able to do that. And only have what? Only have three coaches since what year? How long is? I mean, that's wild. There's so many fans. There's coaches, there's so much turnover.

Yeah, you don't want to, if you're the Steelers, you don't want to start that cycle and get out of what you've had with all these, this consistent success with these coaches. Like you don't want to have a guy for two years. And then all of a sudden, yeah, once you get in that cycle, good luck getting out of it. Well, I mean, Coach, sorry, ownership craft, you know, he just talked about it. Did he not about making the decision to move on from Coach Mayo after one year? Because they obviously had the same setup for a long time.

At GM and the coach, it was one person. It's kind of his world. We got great consistency here. Then they had to go to a new coach. And all he's thinking about is, I think this is going to be the next Belichick. We're hoping this is another 20 years. This guy leading a program doing his thing. Instead, after one year he has to move on.

He knows that, oh, no, oh, no. We cannot become the place that is firing coaches before their contracts are up because then I'm going to have to start paying so many people, but also that means we're restarting and restarting and restarting. That was like one thing we were good at. So him making that decision to move on

from Coach Mayo after one year, especially with the amount of people telling him, you can't be the place. What do you want to be the Titans? Yeah. Is that what you want? You start talking about places that have fired a lot of coaches.

You want to be the bronze? Is that what you want to become? It's like, that's like a cardinal sin seemingly for NFL ownership at this point. So craft making that move was insane. Now, would the Roonies be able to do the same if it happened in the same fashion? Who knows? But Kraft doing that was gigantic, I think, for you guys, especially finding the right guy. Absolute legend.

You could argue it's probably the greatest move he's had since hiring Bill Belichick as the head coach and making him the GM and basically doing the same thing with Rabel. It feels like the younger coaches are better for the more established. culture places. Like Harbaugh, for instance, he's an older coach, but he goes to the Giants where they haven't had a good winning culture. Tennessee was the other team that wanted them. They haven't really had that culture since Vrable, like the Steelers and the Ravens, and that's probably basically that you could argue the Packers too. They could be places that could hire young guys and be comfortable, but there are some places that, like, they might not even be looking

for that cool young guy anymore. Like, they're more looking for the Big Mike or the Harbaugh to bring in some sort of winning culture. And then for that guy, to maybe pass the baton to get the, you know, more young for 20 years coach. A team that perfectly exemplifies that is the Raiders. They were so bad for so long and they were like, all right, let's bring in a proven head coach who can change a culture. They did with Pete Carroll. Obviously, that didn't work.

But I'm thinking, like, that's kind of the thinking that Conner's thing. That was an organization that needed culture first, then winning. There's some organizations that already have culture so you can bring in a younger guy who could just win or whatever. You know what I mean? Seattle. Is Shula? Yeah, they have culture. Yeah, Schneider's still there. Same GM

still there. Is Shula going to end up anywhere but Miami? He better not. If you're the Miami Dolphins and you don't give Shula $30 million because he's clearly the prince who was promised, his bloodline is the one that made the Miami Dolphins, the Miami dolphins to begin with, then you're an

absolute buffoon. The bottles that are popping every single year during NFL season are because of a Shula. Look at that Shula's coaching tree, by the way. It's pretty ridiculous. So we would say maybe the family tree could potentially figure it out, especially if other people are going to hire them. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Okay? If other people are saying, this is a guy that we would like to hire, multiple places saying we'd like to hire him, it would be a pretty Dolphins move to be like, not for us, though. Now, Gumpy, die-hard Miami Dolphins fan. Your thoughts on Shula potentially coming home to South Florida and making you guys a playoff contender?

Maybe a Super Bowl contender. I've been banging the drum for Shula for a couple years now. to get him in his DC and he did not come then we got Weaver instead but we do have a new GM it's sally from the Packers and Halfley's in there there is a thought that Sully could go for Halfley because of their time together with the back. Happily is already the odds on favorite to be the next Dolphinshead coach and shula's the favorite to be the next Steelers coach okay so and you know both defensive minds obviously you do what you have to do I like you're calling the new GM sully already I assume he's appreciative

John Eric Sullivan, first GM hire of the cycle, is by the Miami Dolphins after firing Chris Greer, which Dolphins fans thought would never happen. Big decisions had to be made down there. What does your team look like? Just as a whole, he's your quarterback, you name it. And speaking of, Gumpy, hey, good for you, buddy. You're back. He's been battling. Go, go. Yeah, big guys. Goose is back, finally. Gumpy's been bad at the last couple of days, you know, that vitamin C lacage. It seemed like he was not seeing up for a few days. He was not. How to be consistent with the C, Some people say vitamin C

The C stands for consistency, actually. Yeah, vitamin consistency for the safety of you. Exactly. I mean, that is, I feel like I see it up pretty consistently all season and I got it once or twice. It's inevitable, though. We know that. We know no matter what, especially

for you with all the flying you do and the different like you're going from 30 degrees to 60 degrees, 70 degrees, all the time and that'll always get you. But the sea, I think also, you could say the sea also stands for closes. It kind of closes the window of how long you'll be sick. I think C has helped us this year. It's been a good tag team partner and we're very appreciative for the C. Gumpy, let's make sure you're focusing on C. I have been seed up. Every morning I'm coming here before I hit the Hawke House. I see up. I do fear that it was when I got back Saturday morning.

I knew it had hit me when we got back. Oh, from Arizona to Atlanta. Yeah, that was when I got caught. And we got boozed up. so that day it helped yeah that beats downy immune system a little bit I'll get you I don't want to you guys you guys but you guys ordering just the four shots can I just get a

little jack on the rocks and then what is it it's literally just four shots of jack poured into an airplane glass with just ice it's like that's a wild order I appreciate and respect the fact that you guys do it though you're just ordering four shots to the head basically immediately I love it sometimes you got to do

that sometimes you're required to that. It's almost like a law of the air. It also doesn't help when you hit some turbulence and the flight attendant says, yeah, it's going to be bumpy the entire way home. It's like, all right, just give me that fucking bottle then because I'm not, I right now, I'm tired. I can't do this, okay?

I cannot handle this turbulence for the entire way home. So just give me that thing. I'm going to drink the whole thing. And I'm not going to remember this. It is crazy whenever we're bumping. When that plane gets a roll. When you're in the back and you see the whole tube move, when you're in the back, when you're in back. Because it's so long? Yeah, you can see the whole thing and where it's going.

It's not good. It's not good. Really? Well, you got a couple pies behind you. Those things are just sliding and going everywhere and falling off. And it's like, okay, well, hey, luckily, this is only an hour and 20 minute flight. We can put up with this for another hour and 10 minutes. Good news is we had done to South Florida.

That's a little bit longer. That's a long one. We're lucky to do it. We're thankful to do it. And we're going to be trying to send two people to the big. college game today. We gave away four tickets yesterday. AJ will give away two today. We were supposed to only be two yesterday. We didn't take account for the super geniuses that would guess ahead of time what the entire sentence was before AJ and JJ and JJ and Darius and

AQ were given away what the clues were. Some people guess it. So we picked 10 random, our 10 winners from before the final clue being given and then the first 10 after the final clue were given and then we randomly selected from those two groups to give two tickets to one person each. So four tickets yesterday, two tickets today. Today's a good one age. I don't know if you've seen it. The PMS Seeky Punch Out age. When's it happen?

When is the punchout happening? Here in about 10 minutes or so, 15 minutes. I think we're kind of counting down to when that's going to take place. We got a conversation with a great money man, a man who resides down in Miami now coming up here in a matter of moments. And then immediately after a conversation with the president of the University of Miami, Mr. Joe Etchavaria, he will sign off. And then we will take the Thunderdome Court and the Toxic Table will take two big hacks at said punching bag. The highest of the two scores will be calculated with each other. And whoever can guess what that amount is, if there's 10 of them, we'll randomly select.

If there's four of them, we'll randomly select one of the winners. And if nobody gets it right, we'll go up a point as opposed to Price's right rules, which will go down a point. We're going up a point to find the winner, Angie Hawk. I love this. I think it's a great idea. I don't know what either are they competing to see who can get the highest number? No, they've been really kind of

quiet. They are in secret with them. Quiet about strategy. No, because I think these two guys just getting a view at them. There's a chance that they say like... Yeah, they're going to be saboteurs to the competition. Chance, potentially.

I mean, there's so many different outcomes from these two. I mean, Boston, Connor, and Ty Schmidt. You also have to kind of get into their minds on what they're going to do this thing. Maybe there's a backhand chop like going through. It could be. What if they do the Sina, though? What if they do the Sina from Fanatics Fest?

Exactly. Head butt. I mean, look. Yeah, I'm struck it. You could kick it. So, who knows? Yeah, my legs might get up there. Okay.

And I've seen somebody catch it clean on a kick. That's much more powerful than your arm would be. Yeah. Okay. And I think you'll definitely be able to get your foot up high enough to catch that thing clean and not miss it completely. Well, who knows if I'm going to bring in a chair and I'm going to jump off the chair. Oh, okay.

Yeah. That'll be in power. We'll bow that. Spitting roundhouse, perhaps. Or flying knee. Off chair? Yeah. Okay, I like that.

Can't wait. Yeah, I mean, there's a chance at any of this is possible. So if you're able to guess what the two scores are after these two do, whatever the hell they're going to do to the boxing bunching back, and you're one of the first ten entries of that particular score, that's right? You'll be randomly selected, you could be randomly selected to win a pair of tickets. The big college game on Monday, yeah. Oh, my God. The big college game. Let's go.

The big college game. BCG, baby. B-C-G. Ooi! O-Y! O-Y! In Miami. O-Y! O-Y! O-Y! You know what we're talking about, H?

Oh, yeah, I know. We'll be there. Yes, we certainly will. Here's the two winners from yesterday. Congratulations to at L.A. Beck, 81. You've won a pair of each. Yeah. What did it say?

I don't remember what the whole thing even said. Let's watch live football live from, Miami. Yeah. Let's watch football live from Miami. Congrats to L.A. Beck 81 from our research. It appeared as if L.A. Beck 81 was an Indiana fan. So it actually worked out split yesterday.

And quacked out 727, obviously a Miami fan. Congratulations. Yeah, boys. Good luck down there. Two winners yesterday as opposed to just one. Those ticket prices still very real, but obviously stayed stagnant, maybe even going down some people who are projecting. We have a guest with a guest

with us right now, but there is no audio habit. Sure. Technical difficulties. That is a tough part of our show. If nobody can hear anything, you're kind of in trouble. Yeah. We dealt with it at the beginning. Yeah, with Adam Schaefter, who has given us real journalism news,

and literally couldn't hear anything. And then obviously, if our microphones are off, that's going to be tough. So we shall wait as we dive into new subject with A.J. Hawk. Commander's new stadium looks awesome. Do you see it? Oh, yes, it looks amazing. Is it going to look just like that?

We would assume, right? The renderings have been pretty accurate to what these people have been able to piece together as of late. I think the Legion Stadium looked like what we thought it was going to look like. The Buffalo Bill Stadium is starting to look like what we thought it would look like.

We think the renderings are much more accurate these days and with modern technology, you'd assume that they wouldn't be putting out graphics that don't look like what it's going to look like. But yes, back to your point, this is what I think it's going to look like, age. Beautiful. This is amazing. I know what's the river again you guys talked about

cleaning the poop out of? The honest, Sonia. And if you look to the... Anacostia. Okay, yeah. Yeah, the Anacostia, though. UFC, great fighter. Yeah, well, also, potentially,

maybe a good ad deal there for him changing name. I apologize. He's a fan of the commanders. And of the Anacostia. Oh, yeah. But these are all parking garages here, you know, because not a lot of space in D.C. So the parking space isn't massive parking lots.

Let's go ahead and stack these things up. Classic building, I believe that is kind of downtown stuff, whenever you don't have a lot of space. I like they put grass on top. Maybe that would be a little tailgate areas up there. that many people would be able to do their stuff or maybe they just don't want it to look like ass. And then the build of the stadium as a whole,

when that thing's at night lit up with all the other shit lit up around there, that's going to be some beautiful shots, AJ. I think optically it's going to be very, very impressive as they sailgate on the anacostia. Yeah, the sailgating is very intriguing proposition. I think that'll be fun. So that whole, what is that route? It's all, this is like glass, see-through stuff.

There might be some weird shadows of those one o'clock games. I think they have the same thing as so-fire where they can actually put the LED stuff on the top. when you're flying, so I don't think there will be any of that issue that AJ's tied about. I love that with SoFi. Now, I don't know how many people really get to enjoy it. Next to none. It's just when you're

on plane. There's thousands of flights. I've seen at least an announcement for a game taking place later that night from a plane when I see it. Dron shots when it's doing something cool on top? Yeah, those are always cool. Pictures are cool. Yeah, when we flew in, they had the cool for the Super Bowl

a few years ago in the National Championship. They had a cool like, hey, Big games tonight. And how about the sphere of being able to do what they do? That's a game changer. It's only a matter of time before there's a full stadium. Yeah, need one of those on the East Coast. Elon Musk buys a football team.

Look for a sphere stadium. Yeah. I'll go. That would be outrageous. Be terrified. Are you taking any state money for that? Absolutely not. No, yeah.

I will own this thing completely. We'll actually have a rocket show at halftime. Yeah. Oh, that would be awesome. If the sphere opens up. Oh. Rocket straight up and through.

Second half begins now. That's a great idea. The whole thing. Every game's a home game. You fly that bitch everywhere. Oh, they drop their dome on you. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Wow. What's the weather? Oh, 70 and sunny. How do you know? Guess so it's coming. The space stadium. It's the future. Oh.

How many billions, 400 some? Yeah. 600 some? I think he's a $700. Oh, my God. That was the last I saw and you never know what those numbers. You know who. Oh, okay.

I think he meant the owner. I thought you're talking about the owner. Of the Washington commanders. I don't know what Josh is. 726 as of currently estimated. Elon Musk is that right there. So we would assume at some point he's going to just want to buy stuff. And what he could buy is everything with that amount of money.

And especially, you know, NFL team if it becomes available. We thought it would have already happened by now. We thought he and Bezos would potentially be competing for a new NFL team. But obviously, I guess, different interests. You know, Bezos shuts down all of Rome for his wedding. Yeah, for three weeks. Elon's sleeping on the floor still. Bezo still doing it.

I mean, you know, they got different interests, I guess. But if they want to get into buying an NFL team, I do think these stadiums of the future are about to be fucking outrageous. Just like this one is. This is beautiful. Yeah. Some of them have gotten really boring, you know, and kind of repetitive. A lot of buildings have. I think if we go into an Arkansas,

conversation as a whole is somebody who gets to go see a lot of cities. A lot of cities starting to look the exact same or a lot of cities under construction just look like complete ass. So it feels like modern architecture is a little bit difficult to judge at the moment because it feels like we're in a little bit of a transition phase. Don't want to act like I know architecture, but just is just my... Two cents. Research as I've walked around. And then all the stadium started looking pretty similar. And then it's like this one just looks good and looks like it fits the city in which it is in.

And it feels like it's an actual monument. So I appreciate that they kind of thought about that seemingly. Yeah, that's why I'm excited for these other stadiums. Cleveland. That's a place where, hey, very traditional, old school, outdoor stadium, and now they're kind of changing. That's interesting. And then Nashville. Like Tennessee Stadium, I think, isn't the round type. I think it is more boxy square. Yeah, rectangle. Yeah, yeah, whatever it is. But shape of football field with the massive bar, I'm interested to see what they have in there. Like the whole thing for Vegas, newer stadium, the clubs they have, the sweet clubs where it's a whole entire, you know, couch area, the whole nine yards. And then what are they going to do for theirs? The Nashville team, I think they're doing a hundred-yard bar, very similar to Atlanta that has that huge bar underneath the stadium. Like what's going to be their kind of little caveat?

Hopefully it's just, you know, four-ply toilet paper and super, super nice stuff for poop. Yeah, the Anacasia getting cleaned up, good news. They're not having poop pipes bursting anymore. That's good news. Beautiful new stadium. That's good news. All eyes are now on the bison outside the Buffalo Bills' new stadium. think we know.

They got to be, are they up yet? Like out of this stadium. Much. I do genuinely wonder if they are deciding to bring the bison in last. Like that's a conscious decision. Like when they break a champagne bottle on a big ship or something, is that they place the bison there to let us know we are done, here we go. So what are they doing in the circus?

They put one of these big tarps over an elephant, right? Yeah. They have like those. It's in a big tent. Yeah. What do you mean? They need to put, so if you have the bison out front, first of all, they need to block the building of that thing.

so nobody can get eyes on these things. Fly them in a night. But then fly them in a night, laying them, and then have big tent or curtain, stage curtains around. Boom, drop off,

reveal. Yeah, we need a big one with, I think, Pyro. Chris Angel. Pyro from SMU. And maybe Chris Angel too. Maybe Chris Angel is dangling from the thing,

upside down, getting out of a straight jacket. Sure. Move that bus guy, maybe. Todd Pennington. Can we incorporate live Buffalo into this somehow? Move that bus guy. only if we bring Ralphie from Colorado

because this current Ralphie is a little bit more uncontrollable. Yeah, correct. So we want a little bit of chaos if we're bringing a live bison. That's what you were promoting? Yes, I want, so I like your idea of kind of looking like a circus tent

or your house is getting fumigated over top of the buffalo. Yes. But I want it to be glass, but like a safe glass that's easily breakable and then live buffalo run out and they break the glass and then the three buffalo, the three bison are set in the standard. Okay.

Yeah, there's a chance that that is, perfect way to unveil a new Highmark Stadium. Thank you. Travis Pistrana then also That would work too. It would be cool. Pagula's riding. Well, if he's jumping a heavy bike, sure, maybe, not a rocket. Maybe you get Sal Capagia to jump a heavy bike over it. Well, yeah, he should be

fucking butt-da-da-da-da-da- He's definitely doing that. Yeah, he's playing. He's got a couple sets when I opened. Yeah. Fire. Flames. Maybe his solo hits so hard that it breaks the glass. This has been all fill time.

to get to our guest that we haven't been able to figure out the audio with for 10 minutes. Kyle Williams. They better have to chopper them in. They better need to chopper these bison in. They're so big. I would hope so. You can't just put them on a flatbed. They're too big for that.

No, you know those oversized loads that kind of drive by that have 14 police around it? Yeah, almost got hit my one today. Really? Yeah. You're on far lane and they were coming in to left three? Rotary.

Oh, and around the boot? I went inside track on a rotary roundabout how people say them here. What the hell is that? A rotary is what a roundabout is actually called. Oh, it's like an East Coast thing. Okay, I got it. No, it's not an East Coast thing. Take a lot of pride in that.

They built a rotary phone. That's where they started. Rotary phone. Biggo, thank you. Yes. A fuck, whatever. And so I'm on the inside track. I'll tell you what, these roundabouts,

I don't know what took so long to bring them into society, but out here in the Midwest where it's very flat, it is a pretty perfect thing to add. Building them, the process of them getting built sucks. the process of your entire community learning how the hell they operate sucks but once everybody kind of gets what's going on what a true pleasure

those round of boots are honestly see look you're you're proving my point they're not out here because they started up there and everyone was like that's stupid just you pull a stop light or stop sign in but actually I think they're probably from Europe if I had a guess because they didn't have as much space I think the middle of Paris

is actually one big round of boat the Arc de Triumph no I don't think they ain't no shit about rotaries. I think Ireland has some roundabout. Those are just big circles. I assume England has some roundabout. The Audubon is just that big, big circle.

Well, if we're going to get into this, I mean, we can go all the way back even before England. But what I'm saying is in America, where rotary started. In this country, it was New England. And it was Massachusetts. All right. Joining us. They're called Rotaries. All right.

We'll see. Actually, in the city where he's from, the Bronx, New York City. I don't know if they have a lot of rotaries around. Can't because the buildings are everywhere. If you have space, it's obviously spectacular. Johnny, no. We just lost video now. Just lost.

Maybe we move this one to tomorrow. Yeah, good try. We appreciate him so much, but we are so sorry and we apologize. Just know that Joe Etchavaria, okay, the current president of the University of Miami and the University of Miami health systems. A man who is in charge of 20,000 people, I do believe, 20,000 workers.

Yep. and a guy who is an absolute dog after getting a chance to chat with him. And is the only reason why Coach Cristobal said he got up to left organ to go back home. Feels like divisions are all aligned down there. And it all starts with this guy. You know, this guy loves ball and has done amazing things for the U. And also his business acumen is outrageous. So we're going to have him join us today.

Thought it had been a cool mogul conversation actually with him about the modern college football world and college sports world as a whole. But obviously technical difficulties just cause it. to not happen. Speaking of technical difficulties, why don't you guys go show some technique. Come on. Come on. Come on. Go get it, boys.

Figure out who win today's hashtag PMSC geek punch out pair of tickets. Now, all day people have been guessing. Can you grab the handheld microphone over there? Yeah, and turn that thing on. What you guys stretch? Because they're not getting it. We don't know if they're going to give a good faith effort in punching this. Okay, so that is an interesting, you know, part of the entire story, AJ Hawk is what type of

effort level would these boys be giving for their punches. They will get two punches. We'll be taking the higher of both of them. So if they were to sabotage and be saboteurs, we would obviously have to get their second punch weed. But if they're going to sabotage on both, that'd be real commitment to the bit to do that. So we will have to put them on a spot. Ty Schmidt, would you like to punch first or second? Okay. And do you want to kind of reveal what your technique is, or do you want us just to watch it? I'm just trying not to break my hand and or my wrist. That's really the only technique involved here.

It feels like he's not going to be swinging a hundo, AJ, with that particular stat. This is the hashtag PMSC Geek Punch-Aot ticket giveaway. Ty Schmidt, who appears to be open-palming the punching bag, will be going first. Who knows what his technique will be. Former baseball player, former pitcher, I do believe he's obviously been in a scrap or two. Doesn't mind punching the game buster punching bag. Go ahead, Ty. Good luck, too, by the way.

Hope you don't break anything. Oh, no, lads. Oh, no, lads. Oh, no, lads. 163. Now, Foxy, let's not show the final number for the second punch. I would assume it is going to run a little bit longer. But what is happening here, Ty, if you can step aside for a second,

this is a plastic piece right here. This is plastic. There's a little bit of pad up here if you were to miss by a bunch. But if you miss by that much, there is a full-on piece of really, hard plastic right there. So Ty, I think, was trying to avoid that pretty heavily. And boy, you missed the whole damn thing. I did. If you wouldn't mind, let me run that back. Let's go ahead and just eliminate that one. Now I know what I need to do. I may have to sell out and may have to break my hand. Do you want two punches again? I do it. That is strike that from the record. No. No,

that was your first one. That's why we're doing two. Now, granted, if you are not, AJ, who do you think should have to be satisfied with this particular punch for it to count as a punch. Would it be you, Ty, us, because he wants that first one not to count, because he didn't really... I think Ty should get that back. That weird safety thing is kind of awkward, so I'm okay with him having another shot at it. Okay, two more punches, two more actual punches.

Connor, you will also get a practice punch if you would like one whenever you... Connor is turning down his practice punch. Okay, you will have two punches. Foxy, let's not show the final number, because then people will be able to gain. Let's certainly watch that number run up as Ty Schmidt attempts to punch a bag here, either as hard

as he can or close to hers. actually going to hit this time. We shall see. I mean, that is the hashtag PMSCkech punchout contest in a nutshell. We shall see. Boom! Ty Schmidt, the numbers running!

Okay. Okay. Ty, would you like to punch it again, or would you like to keep that one? No, it's over 700. You're good at that one. Okay, Ty will remain at that one, so he did only do two punches. So back to the original rules. Boston Connor, it is now your turn.

We have the first score locked in. Let's reset that. I thought we were going every other. But I'll get mine out of the way, and then Connor will get his out of the way. So yes, I will go again. Okay, all right. I didn't know if you want to get into a flow, because it feels like you just connected with that one,

and maybe you want to feel a little confidence. I just don't want that first one to be the lasting image in my brain. It's going to be an ours, I think. I think that is kind of a part of the problem. but I understand you want to throw a heavy bomb. All right, if you would like to give it a go again, go ahead. We will take the higher of the two scores. First one, pretty good run up.

Pretty good run. Ty Schmidt out of Iowa. Boom, that one had a lot more thump in it. Okay, that's a big number. Ty Schmidt. Ty, that feels good, having that one on the books. Yeah, I'm proud of that one. As you should be, unbelievable stuff.

Boston Connor, now listen, it feels like the bag is ready to be punched with what Ty Schmidt just did. Yeah, big time. He warmed it up for me and me and my sense I have been prepared for this. All right, ladies and gentlemen, con man. We'll try to add on to Ty's score. No run-up. He's going to be doing a standstill.

Bomb! We've got to restart. Okay. That is a good score. I think you should feel very proud of that number. If that was to be your number, I think you would feel good about it. We have ties locked in. Ty, you remember what yours is, right?

I certainly do. I do. I do remember what yours is. Tide does not. Okay, that's what we just learned right there. Okay. And now, Conman, you can only add on to it with this second one. We will only take your best punch. How'd you feel about your first one? No run up, no nothing. Felt okay. Shoulder definitely moved a little bit there on the punch, so it hurts a lot right now. Are you going to South Paw, maybe? Maybe go South Paw. Might go with the knuckles, but I think I'm just going to have to unload on this one and hopefully, you know, feel something on this punch.

Okay. Sounds good to everybody. Good luck through your shoulder and to you. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Okay, so we officially have the numbers now. I will text it to the back room. Good work, boys. I'm really proud of both you. I will text it to the back room. And reset that real quick. Yep, okay. That's good idea. Okay.

We get eyes on it in the back. Let's do the math. How do you boys feel after the big punches? The first one, you know, trying not to hit the thing, I think is not the best move. I think you kind of just got to clear your mind and just hit it because, boy, I certainly did graze my wrist or something on that first one. It's a little tandy. So if you're doing these at a bar, you just got to, don't think, just do. Bill?

Adabay, Bill. Way to get back into it. Way to go. Bill had to manage a lot of things there. I saw him also bounce around. That was his first button he hit. So it feels like he might be getting comfortable with the horsebacker. We appreciate you doing that, Bill.

The first punch out of you happens. Yeah, you know. Especially with that plastic right there sitting waiting to kind of just ruin your knuckles. Also, that's the first drive on a first tee right there. You're right. A lot of eyes on you. Breakfast ball. Hey, your first, that was, you brought some real thump to that thing.

I'm pretty impressed by your numbers, both of you. Connor, no run up at all, no movement. Did see Hardo's at bars have those rules in place back in the day. But I would have, personally, if I was to do that, I'm taking at least one step into that thing. Your number, unbelievable. Well, I'm all technique. You know, I wasn't going for power.

I was just going for precision. You brought it up earlier in the show, and that's why I hit the nose on the head both times. You boys certainly did not embarrass the program. Proud of you, boys. Thank you. It's all about you. We will unveil the number and find the winners as we continue digitally.

We'll see you tomorrow back here on ESPN. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye. Okay, let's go to a break. Bruce will be able to find the winners as we do that. And now it's tomorrow like today? What's that?

And now it's tomorrow, just let them know. I think we let it know right now. Don't you think? Yeah, might as well. Okay. Yeah, I think we let people know right now. I would assume someone hit the nail on the head, right? I would think so because where you guys were, if you were to do some research,

like I wonder what AI, chat GPT would say, hey, adult males, kind of athletic, not seemingly the weakest, what would be a good? I think if you were to search that, it would give you a range. And then with the way you guys thumped it, I think it will obviously be at the higher end of that range. But I assume it was kind of potentially getable. Yeah, I would assume so too. You guys threw some bombs, dude.

Yeah. Tried to. Seriously. I think you should be proud of your number. No move, no run up. AJ, do you see that? He just sat there next to that thing. Hook. Yeah, I would have crow hopped into that sucker.

Exactly. You got at least get one step into that thing. You said, nah. Jaw rotation. Like I said, Sensei fucking taught me exactly what the distance. They taught you well. Your sense I did well.

I was at Buffalo Wildlings. I had one of these with Tommy Zimbakowski. Professional box. It was awesome. Because I'm obviously, I have seen my way around one of those before. Okay, I have delivered new number

in bars before. It is a fun time to do that. Friends of mine have more fun with it than I do. That makes sense. Because normally, ends up in bad spot because it's a shitty bag. It's in the bar, so it does the entire thing.

But like Zibikowski, just standing there. All right, we're going to go Southball. Bang, perfect form. Poof, poof, pooh, through the thing runs up. Then he goes to the other side. All right, right through there. And then like jab, boom, perfect right through it. It's like watching a professional punch thrower hit one of those things.

It was like, holy fuck, there is levels to this shit. Because I'm just, hey, heads up, coming in. As hard as like. Over here, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That thing works, though. You catch somebody. They're out. Here's Connor's punch. No movement. We're in the Campbell jersey. No relation to Will, but certainly relation to power. Let that thing run.

I think I broke it. Do you have Ty Schmidt's second one? Your second one was the thump, right? Yes. Yeah. Your third one, I'm sorry. Well, no, sorry. Second one. I was going to say, yeah, that one didn't count.

dumped the first. Yep, stricken from the records. Mm-hmm. What's the highest anyone's ever seen? Do you know, like, what, has anyone ever witnessed a... Have somebody broke it, I wonder? I don't know. But I do know they're not all scaled the same.

Yeah, I figured that. You know, like, you see some punches that go big, and it's like, then you'll see other places where it doesn't go as high. It's like, oh, are they, like, trying to say that we're, like, the real one around here. You know, I appreciate that this particular establishment said, we don't just hand out nine hundreds around here. We don't just hand them out around here.

900's got to be Tommy Zimbokovsky. You've got to come in here and be a good. Yeah, like that exactly. Did he get a 900? So I've never seen anything over 999. I've never seen a thousand. Yeah. I think some of them are the scale is...

Yeah, I feel like I've seen some big guys blast it and get like $3.50. Yeah, McGregor got... I remember a video of McGregor doing it, and he got like $9.95. Like, he didn't even get the highest. It's like, okay, well, come on. I mean, we need to get... Who is the person right now? Prime Mike Tyson would need him.

Anthony Joshua, I guess, but he's... He's retired. I would wonder, like, just, yeah. That's sad story, by the way. Very. Especially with where he was. Yeah. It was how he was talking.

I became a fan after that entire thing. And then all of a sudden, catastrophe. Crazy. Happens out of nowhere. That is sad for that. Who would it be? I guess... Fury.

What's Jake Paul hitting at that? I bet you Jake Paul? He's probably way up for him. I'm not saying he's the heaviest hands. I'm just saying he would... CM Punk, maybe? Punk. Chuck Ladell.

Chuck was at the game. Chuck Ladell. Jay Glazer, I guess, if we're really good. Yeah. Oh, yeah, glaze, yeah. All right. Let's get to it. Here's Ty Schmidt's second Thump, Thump, City.

Oh. Just solid. Kind of pure. You can feel it. Go around the hand? Yeah. Yep. It slung shot off your hands.

Exactly. You felt that. Exactly. Smooth. Good for you. Thank you. A real coming-of-age tale Ty Schmidt's punch was from one to three.

You could say that. You know, if you're in a fight, you're not going to think, I'm not Sherlock Holmes. I'm not looking at the telemetry of this guy's face and thinking, where am I going to hit him in order to, you know, inflict the most amount of punishment? You're just going to fucking sock the guy, you know? And that was my mistake on my first attempt. Yeah, you punch him right in the throat. Exactly. Which also, it's actually smart.

Yeah. It's a very good spot. Coming down on it, too. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you were coming right to sternum. That would hurt. That's how bad. right in your Adam's

swallow that one that's the easiest place to hit too you know because the head moves sternum still staying the same punch right to the sternum not a bad eye

overhand right to the sternum fights over all of a sudden that guy's yeah cave chest actually yeah yeah oh how you can fight you down so I thought

boom bang it up bang it up take a bite out of their own Adam's apple instant death yeah oh I didn't know that was a kill shot

instant death yeah I didn't know that it looks like you had instant down it is need to get you in that Oculus the Oculus has one of those in the training room obviously training in any box and they go to arenas you travel around you win championships in the training area they have sensors on a full body thing and it's like boom bang bang boom like there's a spot here obviously and it's like judging where you're hitting it's like oh this is what these boxers do all the time that's why they are just like lethal weapons

everywhere. Because a punch, we're watching it now in public. A lot of people fighting and a lot of people just eating punches right now. Oh yeah. In public, there's people eating punches. And those boxers, there's like little buttons. There's buttons everywhere. That they're just.

Yeah. What you're describing, Mori Tanaka built in three ninjas. It was a striking robot. Exact same thing. Light up the eyes. Yeah, light up the eyes. That it was time. Well, that's why you go, ninja, go, ninja. Yes. Is that the same?

No, it's not. But it's close enough. They're both ninjas. I didn't know. Yeah, I thought. Beverly Hills one's my favorite. Hell, yeah. Oh, that's a great movie.

Great movie. See, you and I have not seen those other ones, but we certainly, as soon as I mentioned that, Chris Farley, on the back of a gate. My kids asked to watch it like every two weeks. They want to watch it. He's amazing. Not enough, Chris Farley. Top shelf Will Sassow in that as well. Hall.

He's magical. That's A.J. Hawk. The Toxit. was here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, boys. How do the hands feel? Feel great. Yeah, yeah, all good. Losing up. You guys proud of the number you put up?

Yeah. Satisfied. Yeah, satisfied. Not proud. Not proud by chance, but satisfied. It'll be time right now, I think, to let the world know what your numbers were. AJ, if you had to guess what Ty's highest score was, what would you think it was? Oh, he's muted.

Oh, he's muted. Oh, there it is. There it is. 875, I would say, if I had to guess Ty's score. 875? Okay, I respect and appreciate that. 854 is what Ty hit on his third punch technically, but in his mind's second punch actually for the contest, right, Ty?

That is correct, yes. 854 high score for you. Yeah, I'm good with that. I'd take that at any one of these deals at any bar. Yeah, I think you should. And then for no steps at all, Boston Connor, what do you think he threw, AJ? 884. Okay, you think that one was higher than ties?

I think it's possible, yeah. 793. Almost cracked 800. The no movement, I think I've always seen a good punishment from the boxing thing gods. You know, if you're not going to take a little bit of a step into this thing, we cannot reward you as much. Yeah. But I also think there is an inertia E equals MC squared thing that comes into it. 793, no steps, unbelievable throw out of you.

Are you happy or not happy? I wouldn't say I'm happy or not happy. I think I'm content with it, but wanting more. I can't wait to get back on the bag. That makes 1,647 for a combined score of the two highest punches from Ty and Conman. There were people that got it right, and we obviously were able to find them. We are making a graphic right now to announce who won the pair of tickets to the big college game on Monday, and that will obviously cap off a massive football weekend.

Divisional round, two games on Saturday, two games on Sunday age. the four happening over the weekend. Are you most ziqued up about at this stage? I mean, it's tough to pick just one, but, okay, I'll pick two. The Beals and the Broncos right there. I want to see if Josh Allen could continue his brilliance against his Broncos D. And that Rams

Bears game, man, like, I want to see what the weather's like. I want to see how they handle it. And I want to see, you know, if the bears can figure out a way to, you know, continue the magic they have had lately. Do the Packers fans have a lot of, okay, we'll see. To the Bears? Is that kind of what this is? Are you guys actually excited to see what the Bears are

about to be in the NFC North for the foreseeable future. No, yeah. I mean, I think they're legit. You know, like, they won. Their record is good. You can only do that for so long until you're just a moron and you're just, you know, being a salty rival. Like, yeah, they've won a lot of close games, but there's a reason they win

those close games. And I'll just be interested because I don't know, I don't know if they can do the exact same formula they did last week. I think if they've scored 25 points in the fourth quarter, I don't know if they can beat the Rams that way. Texans, Patriots, also happening on Sunday. Conman, I see

you in the Campbell jersey, obviously representing. I assume you're going to have your Nike tech on because that's your classic playoff outfit as we go into a big time weekend. Of course, last day before the weekend before the game. Your thoughts on what it's going to take at this moment to beat this Texan's team? I think it's just going to take being able to run the football.

Like if you can hold on and actually get yardage against that defense while keeping CJ off the field especially with it being a very, very cold game, possibly having some snow flurries throughout the game. I think that That'll be enough. I would say Drake has to play perfect just to have a chance.

But again, if we can run with Ramandre with Trevion and be able to kind of just do our normal defensive thing, I don't think we need to do anything kind of crazy on defense. It's looking like right now Nico Collins is not going to be playing for the Houston Texans, which is huge. Gonzo practice yesterday. He is in the last stage of the concussion protocol. So I feel very good about that matchup. but the biggest thing will be running the football.

You talk about Nico Collins, potentially not playing concussion protocol has been what it has been since the modern-day concussion knowledge has been. If he was to play this weekend, that would be a massive thing for, I think, his brain being able to bounce back, but also in general being able to maybe play the next week if you're diagnosed with a concussion. And him being out, obviously a big difference maker, Fred Warner being out, the San Francisco 49ers lineup, kind of led us to believe that the Niners were dead. This guy is way too important to their football team alongside, I boasts are not being able to play. There's no way this team's going to be able to go on a run.

Well, they did. Playing for the number one seed in week 18 against a team they're meeting now in the divisional round. The San Francisco 49ers in the Seattle Seahawks. Conversation around Fred Water. Fred Warner, very positive, optimistic. I think he has to remain that way. Conversation from other people is like, maybe not this week, maybe next week. We got some tape on Fred Warner running around the practice field. AJ, your thoughts? Because he seems to be skipping pretty good. And then when he hits the sled, we don't know if it's the distraction from the person walking to his left or if it's the actual rep, you know, that's a interesting. That was the running back. Obviously, you shed a blocker and get to the running back there. But the way he hit that and lifted

his leg, I think we're all kind of worried about, right? Aren't we, AJ? Yeah, a little bit. It looks a little awkward, but you see how, like, how bouncy he is. Like, this is a guy that's coming back that, you know, it's been off the football field for a long time. So it's good to see that, but I don't, yeah, it would be crazy if he's out there playing this weekend. He looks jovial. Yes, yeah. Looks great. Looks like a guy that gets to play football again. has it taken away from him for the last three or four months. And a guy who loves ball. You know, there's some people that get away from game and say,

you know what, I'm good with it, actually, not being in my life. And then there's some people, like Fred, we've watched him. I think he was on the sideline. I think he was on camera. I think there was multiple times where he was trying to get back. And obviously, everything he said is I'm playing. He's striding out pretty good right there. Yeah.

I mean, that's a lot of... Straight line, I think, would be okay. I would just stopping and starting and all of that changing direction where you have something like that. It was his ankle, wasn't it? Yeah. And it was pretty serious. So, yeah, that's the only thing I would worry about.

We're being, like, engaged with a blocker with your foot and your feet in the ground. Like, those are all the little things that you've got to figure out if you can do. Yeah, San Francisco takes on the Seattle Seahawks. We'll see the 12s in prime time in the divisional round. Number one overall seed, Seattle Seahawks, favored by seven tone. Where's the money sitting? And why is it sitting like that, you think? Yeah, so they've already played twice this year, obviously being divisional opponents.

Seahawks being minus seven. Niners won the first meeting 17-13. and then if you remember in week 18, 13 to 3, the Seahawks won. It's been two close games. It's been two games that have gone under both times. So that's something to look at. As of right now, the percentage for the, let me see here. Let me sure I get it right is 73% on the Niners at plus seven.

Fascinating. Fascinating. It feels like a lot to me. Yeah. It's a visual game. That's a lot of points. That's a lot of points. It's a lot of points for the visual.

game. And Kiddle being out is huge, but Tongass has played, like their backup tight end, Jake Tongass, and he's been, he's done well. I think it was during the Mac Jones time when he was playing quarterback, not with Purdy, so it'd be interesting to see that, but still, solid backup. Homefield advantage is real in Seattle. Can't wait to see how that kind of affects the entirety of the game. Obviously, the Niners players are very used to it. I got a chance to see the Niners play the Seattle Seattle. In Seattle. That place was loud, and obviously, they were able to handle it. Denver, you know, at altitude, 5, 280 feet, exactly. one mile above sea level. Orange Crush, I believe, is what their fan base is known as. I've always enjoyed playing out there. It always felt like you were playing in a very awesome place. Sean Payton's talking to the crowd saying, hey, I think we got a little bit of a misunderstanding going on on when we need the noise. And I'd like to correct that this weekend once and for all. For years, we were conditioned to raise the noise level when they broke the huddle. The noise level needs to be loudest when they enter the huddle. And then can you do that?

Hey, can we do that collectively for 120? No, I don't need it. I just need it for half the snaps in the game, right? So say 65 snaps of 10 seconds. That can, that's a huge advantage. He's coaching up the fans right now. 10 seconds longer, right? 10 seconds longer than normal.

I think he's just saying, if we can just get them in the huddle, we don't have to worry about anything else. You guys are thinking about everything but the huddle. All I'm saying is only worry about when they're in the huddle. We don't have as many guys. Now, Josh Allen, in the huddle at the line of scrimmage, we think he'll be able to maybe make some plays and maybe audible will change some things up.

Josh Allen, obviously, NFL MVP. But I think Sean Payton was trying to make a point. Like, we have it backwards here. If you want to be quiet during a time, while the play's happening, go ahead and be quiet. we need you in the huddle okay and then he was doing the math of his head because i assume he tells the players i need this for 120 plays i need you to just kind of lock in don't look at scoreboard 120 plays and we'll see where we're at the end of that so he was getting into coach speak to the fans right there he was like can i get that for a hundred

well i guess naughty hold on yeah easier it's even easier than 120 can i get it for 60 65 plays 10 seconds i need you to ruin their huddle for you i like he's doing this is very good a ball as a whole not just in denver i think Yeah, Michael Thomas quote tweeted a tweet about Sean Payton's coach speaking. He said that there's a photo of the Super Bowl trophy with all the money that you could make from the playoff checks throughout the entire playoffs. And I guess it's a true story. In New Orleans, he basically wheeled this out in front of the entire team. I don't know if we can find the tweet.

Michael Thomas tweeted it out. But he wheeled it out in front of the entire team and basically said like, hey, you want this, you want legacy, you want everything forever, win three games. And you get all this money. You get this Super Bowl trophy, not including the parade in the entire thing. He does seem to be one of the best motivators. And if I'm Denver, if I'm the fan base, like I'm excited to watch the game now

and then listen for when they are in the huddle, more so than when they're actually on defense. Here's the tweet right here that you actually called for, and he quote tweeted a tweet from Broncos for six. Sean Peyton once brought this into the Saints locker room and said, y'all want this? Win three fucking games. Okay, is this what you want?

Is this what we're looking for? Yeah. Three games. Sean Payton loves the playoffs. obviously a man who has had massive success. Also a coach who has been traded for a number one overall pick and a second round pick. Is that what we're staring down in the future with Coach Tomlin, is what everybody's asking now if he's not going to get into coaching this year.

Hardball getting 20 mil a year allegedly being reported. Is that going to sway some other stuff happening? But Sean Payton's a guy that obviously the entire world respects as a football coach. And Sean McDermott is a guy that if he doesn't want a Super Bowl soon, people will just refuse to compliment him ever. You know, everything is like good. Josh Allen's the reason. why this is all happening, not because of the coach.

And I assume he doesn't necessarily think that's fair, but I know he doesn't care, but he has to win or it's going to get loud with Coach McDermott, always in Buffalo, it seems. Yeah, and if he were to win this year, you could argue that he'd be, he has done more with less. I mean, obviously Josh Allen is who he is, but, man, what do they have, like, three healthy receivers playing on Sunday? Like, they just so many injuries and they've withstood everything. And then if they were to, you know, go on the road and win these three games, like, I think you could probably put to bed, you know, I'm obviously.

his job security would be good, but what they have continued to do with maybe not one of the better teams that they've had in the Josh Allen era, I'm very, very excited to watch that game on the time. Yeah, I liked it above. I could not believe that was the moment right there, I think, in that drive when it was taking place

where I was like, oh, what am I doing, dude? I picked the Jags, and I was even questioning people that were telling me that the bill was going to be. I was like, Dan Oluski, what the fuck do you know, dude? This Jackson seems unbelievable. I saw him against Colts. Colts a little different than Josh Allen, and let Buffalo Booth? A little bit.

What was the big pop right there out of your mouth? Because you're right. You know, but you do get kind of lulled into that when you see him live in person. I mean, you were saying, is Josh Hines-Alin the biggest fucking guy in the NFL? Yeah, I think he is. Like, that can sway you. How do his knees keep up with his size? Is what I wonder with Josh Hines-Alan? How is anybody going to beat this? And then you're watching the game unfold, and it's like,

I forgot we were putting an eye on the second L for Josh Allen. I was watching him warm up. he's a he's a strapping young lad as well like without his pads his his back Josh Allen yeah yeah and he runs people over and then this whole thing people getting upset about it's like look at their team how their team chemistry is outrageous like if your offensive line and your quarterback is getting picked up and dragged 12 yards that's a team chemistry indicator right there hey everybody is willing to sacrifice for this squad and we've obviously learned that and James Cook being the best back in the game behind Josh Allen and then you talk about the wide receivers

is everybody being hurt? It's like they make do figure it out. Brady's going to be up for some head coaching jobs, especially with how cool his fate is. Whenever he sits down in an interview or his picture gets out in the city, they're going to be like, yeah, we definitely want a young, cool, innovative offensive coordinator. It's like so much can happen as Buffalo Bills team.

They could lose this game and everybody's going to be calling for everything and change. They could win it all. And everybody's going to say, this is the greatest team win in history of sports. And then all their coordinators are going to get plucked for head coaching jobs. It's like such an interesting dynamic on where the people. bells could go. Well, it's sweet too because I think Curtis Samuel, one of their wide receivers got activated. I think Shephti mentioned in Ed Oliver, Ed Oliver, Ed Oliver, one of their highest paid players. This game, and just the entire thing, just kind of reinforce, like, hey, if you don't have

one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, it's going to come back and get you. Like, if you don't have one of those top five guys like Josh Allen, you will end up playing one of them, and then inevitably he's going to run over and dance on your face. Also, Bill's winning would be massive motivation for Houston and New England winner host the AFC championship. The Texans have yet to host a game. Obviously they played at Pittsburgh. They're a wildcar team. If they beat New England

or if New England beats them, they then get to host the AFC championship game against the bills. Imagine that home field advantage. We already saw the bills go to Houston and New England and they came back. Houston with that defense, with that crowd, that should be illegal. Yep, I agree.

Seattle, I guess same thing here. We're about to watch that. football's about to be great. And then the big college game happening on Monday. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the winner. We picked from the first 10 people to get the right answer of the combined power scores. And then we randomized, used an AI randomizer out of those 10 to find one lucky winner. Congratulations to Colts fan Caden, 56.

Congratulations. Obviously a massive amount of Indiana people trying to win these tickets, as are Miami Hurricanes fans. One Miami Hurricanes winner from yesterday, two Indiana Hoosier seemingly fans over the last two days in our three giveaways thus far. We'll have another one tomorrow. Tied with an 854. Comand with a 793. Total is 1647. You do the math. And Colts fan, Kaden was one of the first 10 people who got that right on X using the hashtag PMSC Geek Punchout, randomizer out of the first 10. He wins. Congratulations. Enjoy the hell out of Miami down there for the big college game.

Traveling hotel not included. Figure that out yourself. Good luck. And also when you get down there, the traffic's crazy. Plan accordingly. Yes. Wherever you're staying, whatever you're doing, it's going to take a long time to get it to wherever you're heading. That's just inside information.

I can't wait to get down there for that game. It's going to be buzzing. All these games. I mean, starting on Saturday, it's going to be buzzing. Isn't that crazy? The text from the people, people that aren't in the football world about how much football they consumed last weekend, Super Wildcard weekend, leading Thursday, semifinal, Friday, semifinal, Super Wild Card, Super Wild Card, Super Wild Card. It feels like it's just been like four, has it been four or five straight days of just

football, football, football, and all the games were so good. And I assume the numbers will be outrageous for what just happened during Super Wild Card weekend with the amount of people watching. The divisional round, two on Saturday. they're going to be bangers. Two on Sunday they're going to be bangers. They're about to do it again. Congratulations to football fans. We're in it right now. Good ball all over the place,

Ty Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, I can't wait. You know, I mean, even not having a dog in the fight and the times, the start times, are also absolutely perfect. You know, a couple of those last weekend where it's like, okay, hey, you know, I've been waiting here. Let's fucking move this game up or let's start earlier in the day. All of these start times ensure that you're not going to be too sleepy when you're watching the games. Jimmy Trana is reporting the wild card ratings. 28 million for Rams Panthers,

31.6 for Packers, Bears, 32.7, Bill's, Jags, 41 million, Niners, Eagles, and then Chargers, Patriots on NBC, 28.9 million. And I'll know a single person that wasn't watching them. So those 28 million people include everybody in my world that aren't even in the ball world. I couldn't tell you,

somebody in my life that did not watch one of these games and boy it's great to have it that way Coach Rich Rodriguez is calling me right now wondering what I'm trying to sign Yeah I believe they What's going on coach Rodd

We're going to know some magic Go ahead mute my mic Workouts I think they brought in Don't mute is Mike Bill You hung up Hey hung up Go ahead what you say

I think they I heard a stat earlier today Like they've brought in maybe more people than you have scholarships for like they've brought in an absurd amount of human beings. I think we know what he's calling for then. Yeah, I think we certainly would understand what the potential call is about.

Or maybe it's just, hey, your thoughts on this or hey, we're thinking about doing this, or hey, will you be a part of this? You know, a lot of those potential conversations in this particular aspect. But, yeah, I think what you're seeing with those numbers is Rich Rodriguez looking at our locker room and saying,

a lot of this locker room, soft. we fucking want hard-edged motherfuckers in here. That is like kind of his only expectation is we need hard-ass dudes in here. So the amount of turnover that's about to happen in that roster, I assume, is gigantic. And there's quotes, you know, floating around, and I get screenshot of them and send them to me. And I'd say, if Facebook is a crazy place. I'm not over there a lot, but Facebook announced that my wife and I had our kid. You know, I started getting a bunch of text messages.

Those numbers, they do big numbers as well. Facebook has obviously put quotes in my mouth that I've never said that people believe in those huge numbers. I think Facebook is a little bit of a farm for far-fetched things. Certainly. But potentially believable. You know, so it's like an interesting Facebook's an interesting dynamic. Not saying that's bad. I don't really do the Facebook much, but I do think the, my mom is on there a lot.

Other people and they see things, screenshots, send them to me. And it's like, oh, that's not true at all. And then you look at the number. It's like, whoa. A lot of comments. A lot of people have seen it's like, wow, a lot of people are probably changing the way they view about things, not just me, which I have experienced personally here, and the amount of text messages I got for congratulations on a baby, my wife, which I'm thankful for the congrats. If you thought, we had a baby, it's very kind of you, but we have not. That's just not real. And then it's huge, you know, in its entirety. But like, there's a couple over there that gets sent over. I forget where I was headed. We did not have our baby, though. I reminded myself, do not, to make that announcement. I'm thankful we're here. My wife and I, thank you to every.

I can't respond. I got like 50 text messages congratulating me on new baby. And I was like, did we? What happened? The hell's going on. Sam? There's something I don't know, Sam? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So there was a screenshot from one of my West Virginia teammates. It's a big group text popping off right now of the West Virginia alum. There's a screenshot of something on Facebook sent in to either that group or a text to me directly. That said one of the ex-player said it was like, It wasn't any fun. It was like too hard. Like all the practices were there was no fun. It was too hard.

Somebody that was transferring out. Now that is believable, but I don't know if it's an actual quote. But let's say it's not a real quote. It is believable enough that that is what Rich Rod is trying to kick the fuck out. Yeah. Like you know what fun is? Fun is winning football. Like that is the fun.

Rich Rod used to say, fun is kicking somebody's ass. Because he knows that it's not necessarily the most. Mm-hmm. You know, we're not bringing Will Ferrell out here. Yeah, exactly. Well, Farrell's not coming out here. It is, we are a bunch of, this is a hard-edged place. So he's trying to find those guys.

And I assume I'm going to be tasked with helping there. Maybe the Irish lad. Maybe it's just with the Irish lad, the punter they're bringing in. Yeah, we got a 6-foot-6 kid, guy coming out of Ireland. Punter? No, kicker. He's a field goal kicker. Kicker.

First kick was a 55-yarder, I think they sent him out there. He was on Miami of Ohio, maybe. I don't know. He played Max Cole. 6-6, Monster of a lad. Just smooth swinging a 55-yarder in college. It's crazy. He's coming in town.

We got some edges. We got a quarterback coming in. Kevin Brown. Kevin Brown. Number four. You got a staple of offense of a line. Hawkins. Yeah, this kid's name is,

his name is Jack Cassidy. Jack Cassidy. Way to get to that. I was just going to call him Jay, but Jack Astey. Might go by Jay. There's a chance we go is by Jay. What I like to call him is,

He's jacked Cassidy. This dude is absolutely shredded. You know, Irish is a slant show, buddy. Thank you for joining us. All right, so we gave away the contest winner. Congrats to them. We got another contest tomorrow. People should tell people that we're doing another one tomorrow.

We have to figure out what that is in the next 21 hours. AJ, if you have any ideas, we'd love to hear them. Maybe like a Merry Quizmas between like Mitt and Dibone or something about country music or sports. I don't know. Okay. Maybe something to think about bringing Mitt and the Bohn into the play. Keep thinking. Yep, keep thinking.

Yeah, maybe we have a race. Maybe we have them race or somebody gets it. That's even actually much better to do a race around the Thunderdome. One lap, maybe two laps. What's the time of two laps around a Thunderdome? And maybe they're alternating, tagging each other. Oh, relay. Yeah, they have to do four laps.

We'll put talk in there, too. Talk's a runner. Yep. Mitt's a runner. Yep. D-Bone's been jump roping, right? He has been. We've been, whew, yeah.

What's he's, is he boxing or why? I think he's just getting back into the swing of things. You know, new your new bone. The feet moving. It's good. We enjoy seeing it. Full hoodies with a hat on, still working out with the hat on. Exactly.

Which I like to play. We have a four by one team. Yeah. Around a Thunderdown. Who would be the fourth runner? Bruce runs. Foxy can't run. We have a record holder.

Yeah. A high school. Bill. Bill has to be the guy. Okay. So it's bone, Mitt, talk, and Bill. And does it start here? Yes.

And then they sprint out the front door. And then they come back and tag. Do the loop tag. Let's get a rug in here. Oh, yeah, I guess that's good. Maybe at the end of the rug. Who's running last? Oh, the temperature outside of those lungs are going to be burning.

Burning. That's good, though. That's what we're looking for. People have to predict the exact time. Yeah. We got it. This is fun. This is what these boys train for.

That's right. Yeah. This is why Mitt is. running four miles straight, seven minute miles. Flat foot and nonetheless. On the treadmill? It sounds like what Connor's saying.

Four miles, seven minute miles straight through. That is dang. Oh yeah. He's going. I'm not doing, man. He gets on and then he stops running the next time his brain has a thought. Jeez. I mean, that's actually

a skill if you could do that. Mitt can turn off his brain and focus on things, which we do exactly to your point. It is a skill. That was not true what tone just said. Pretty good though. Pretty good. D-Bone did just say he was a regular in the fat man four-by-force

in high school. So he has also been training for this his whole life. Okay. So is Bone going last? He's the anchor, yeah. Yeah. We know. We know that. All right. So that's tomorrow. People are now going to be trying to figure out how long. Yeah, but they have no

idea with the actual track. is in a hashtag. Because it could go out to a tree and come back. It doesn't have to necessarily be around. It's going to say it's the terrain out there. One of these guys might break a leg or it might be 20 minutes. Yeah, blow a knee out. Caleb, by the way.

Yeah. Caleb's ankle did a full basketball. Yeah. Roll on that thing. I think basketball ankles just throughout their careers, childhood, high school, I think they kind of get calloused up to like rolls because it happens. I remember when I was playing at Boyce, you know, a little pickup basketball out there at Boyce Park.

I rolled my ankle. and it felt like that thing exploded and it actually did. I swalled up and then I watched like two other guys who play hoops their entire lives, their ankles roll and like nothing happens. I'm like, do they build up calluses to like rolled ankles? Caleb Williams' ankle looked like that thing was

going to be blown up and be problematic. Do we have an update on that this week because of what it was? He steps on the guy's shoe, boom. I thought it was over right there because that one is like very annoying. That's like a very annoying now obviously they can give him some pain pills

and as the game's going, you would hope he'd be able to finish that game. But, like, what is the fallout from that? Because I've had something similar to that, and that thing was beach ball. You know, absolutely beach ball in there. I would assume that. I know whenever I'd roll my ankle bad, they would put like a horseshoe-type, like, felt like cloth thing, and then they strap it on to push the blood up away from your ankle, and then your whole leg is just bloody underneath the skin.

Yeah, so I don't know if there's an update on what is happening with Caleb's ankle, but that would certainly happen to somebody out here. Yes. Yeah, there would be multiple. automatic. That's a risk we're willing to take, right? Yeah. Hey, two tickets to the big college game.

Yeah, good point. That's a good point. What's all about? I mean, and then after that, we don't need to find another one. Don't need another one, no. That's it. Maybe on Monday. No, it'd be too tough to get somebody to Miami.

Miami's so far of a trip. Miami so far down there. I was saying maybe Monday we think about doing a giveaway where we offer somebody to get on a plane fly. Oh. That's a far trip. I don't even know if you'd be. You could do local. You know, some locals, you could somehow do a giveaway for them.

Oh, do like a scavenger, like an actual scavenger home where we bury a couple within a city. Hide them somewhere, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure we'll do that. It's a little legwork. Put them like just three inches outside the stadium somewhere. Now, on that note, I do think. Might incite a riot, too, which is. Yeah, you're right.

These are a hot commodity. Especially down there, how that stadium is done with letting fans in. and some fans just breaking in crawling through the vents like mice. That was unbelievable. Yeah. Getting in here for sure.

I'm excited for a World Cup. Speaking of that, soccer really brought out some some environments. Some stuff. Yeah. And now that we know that, yeah, there they were. That was awesome. This was happening.

Awesome. I heard there's going to be extra security Monday at the game. Oh, yeah, because president of the United States of America, the commander in chief. You do this, they'll shoot you in the fucking head. All right.

We do not know if that's true, but I will say it's going to be pretty buttoned up down there. Us walking around on the sideline, I assume, just got a little bit more restricted. Yeah, probably. Before that particular tweet went out of the public. Yeah, this is the only area we need. You guys understand that. We won't do anything else.

Absolutely not. Since those are kind of our spots now, we should maybe have like leather couches brought in. Oh, you think we should be sitting down. Could you imagine legs crossed? Oh! A couple drinks, maybe a little poplar. Just so disrespectful to the boys. Their goal line for the national championship, they look over.

Well, we'd stand for that one. Of course, yeah. Yeah, maybe, unless you're a little exhausted. Yeah, maybe, maybe nap and maybe fell asleep at some point. Can't do that. We're so incredibly lucky to be on a sideline of this particular game. These particular games, it's been a hell of a run to this national championship by the Miami Hurricanes, which we were there, Texas A&M, when they battled not only the Aggies, but also,

So 110,000 plus of screaming Aggie Nation, and then also like 25, 30-mile-hour wins that just kind of dominated that entire game. Then they beat the hell out of Ohio State. Then they outlast Ole Miss. And then they get to the national championship in their home stadium, have to take on who? Oh, the team that's been the most dominant

in the history of the college football playoff. A quarterback who has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entire college football playoff. A defense that is so fundamentally sound that you wonder if they have any weaknesses. Well, Miami and Christopher are going to try to find that out with Carson Becker quarterback, taking on the Heisman winner, Fernando Mendoza, and Coach Signetti, and a mad scientist-defendantor named Bryant Haynes in Shanahan.

It's going to be special on Monday night. The Big College Game. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. We're back tomorrow. We're giving away another pair of tickets.

on the program. Be your friend, tell a friend that. AJ, any final thoughts here for the boys as we look ahead to divisional round eve tomorrow on Friday? Yeah, we need to enjoy this weekend, no question. We've got, you know, football is, you know, it's fleeting as we as we move into the future, so let's enjoy it right now.

College basketball showing up for us in a big way. Golf is teeing off. It's happening. Tennis has been awesome. They've been running state fair shit. That's been really cool to watch. But football is football.

and we love it. Always. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.