The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1490 - The Indiana Hoosiers Win the National Championship, Dan Orlovsky, Bruce Arians, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys recap last night’s National Championship game which saw the Indiana Hoosiers complete a perfect season, going 16-0 and winning their first National Title in a thrilling victory over Miami. They discuss how Curt Cignetti has turned this around in what is perhaps the most remarkable coaching job in the history of sports. They also cover everything that happened in the NFL, as well as some new Head Coaching slots getting filled, and who might be next. Two incredible guests join the show including 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky, and 3x Super Bowl Champion and former Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdown. On this, the Indiana Hoosiers are national champs Tuesday, January 20, 20, 2006. This program begins. Football! It is the greatest, and last night down in Miami, we crowned a new national champion, and the winner of the big college game for football was the Indiana Hoosier. Wow. What a night is Coach Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, and the Hoosier faith.

find, you know, success in the most hopeless place. The losing his program in the history of ball in just a two-year stint has now become the best team in the world. And that man, Jenser, mountaineer, Kurt Signetti, after giving a thanks to his dad, Frank. I hope you're up by watching, Pison. We fucking did it. Gets the Gatoradee bath from Charlie Becker and the boys

and celebrates a national championship where this might not be the last. Signetti felt ready for the moment. A couple massive timeouts he made last night. They were going to send a field goal unit out. Instead, they send Fernando back out on fourth down. What's Fernando do? And then the dive that is going to be immortalized forever down there in Indiana. Full extension, full bruise.

I believe he was bleeding and potentially even got concussed in this entire thing. Now, there is no unaffiliated neurological consultants. They would certainly call that in. But a man was willing to risk his life. And he actually said that. believe in myself, I have full faith. Half the coverage was manned. Half was zone. I'm supposed to run it if it's on. I'm throwing his throat if it's man. It was half and half. I decided to bet on myself and I decided I could die on that field. Is what Fernando Mendoza said afterwards about that

particular play. And Kurt Signetti, obviously, is the greatest talent evaluator in college ball. All the NIL transfers that he has brought in, he has hit upon. Him and Fernando Mendoza felt like a perfect match, both just because of how they act, their personalities, how they view ball, their work ethics, you name it. What a masterful chemistry. build that they had immediately. And then Cooper Jr. was a monster for Indiana all night last night. Becker rolls his ankle covering a punt. Then he gets a fourth down catch, a third down catch, two back shoulders. No, Koski was in that thing. It was really a who's who from the Indiana Hoosier's side of things. And this Miami Hurricanes team did not relate. The Miami Hurricanes defense was

all over the place. Late hits, sure. Tough tackles, definitely. That's been Miami Hurricanes football throughout this entire playoff. We knew with the Big 12 officials, they weren't going to call That was kind of like the storyline is they're not going to call anything until Landino gets a little bit of a late hit on a quarterback in the fourth quarter on a third dime, and they call that against him, which was certainly an interesting call. But I thought last time it was a physical football game. I thought it was a great football game. I thought it was an instant classic. I think Miami covers, congratulations to them. And South Florida Native Sharp puts that thing away.

Takes his helmet off, obviously. They have to have the ball at the three for a couple of kneel downs. And the Indiana Hoosiers are national champions in football. It was a fantastic night, I would say, down there in Miami for the Hoosiers Faithful. I think they're about 60%, 65% maybe down there. They took over every stadium that they were in. Their fan base is obviously pumped about what's about to happen. And now Coach Signetti, we got a chance to catch up with them this morning.

Now we're working for next year old a second. That's right. I said, you've got at least take 24 hours. We've got young guys in NFL draft. We got training. I'll take it in someday, he said. I'll take it. I got travel down here to go do this. We got junior days coming up. I got to, we got to do a celebration of something.

He says, I'll think about it. Because we wouldn't give them like, hey, take this in, bro. People are going to write a movie about this. Actually, you said it'd be a good movie, actual. They're going to do, like, case studies on what you're able to do here in leadership. They're going to do sociology studies about how you've got a group to buy in and to believe, not only the team, not only the boosters, but an entire community bought in on something that had been non-existent. for like a hundred years or so. It's a special story coming out of Bloomington,

and that guy is unbelievable. He's a movie character in real life, who loves ball, loves his players, loves his team. And he was asked last night, what's next? He goes, maybe I retire. Maybe I retire. Not a bad idea. And then he thought about the family.

He's like, well, we need a mic. And then he looked directly at the report and he goes, what would I do? Like, that is an actual question for him. If he did not coach football, what would he do? obviously gets a later start at his head coaching D1 career, but boy, he's come in there ready for the moment, and it was an honor to be on the sideline.

Shout to college football. Been a hell of the run, college football. Talk to the tables here at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt. Conman, you became a Hoosier fan, didn't really have a college team whenever you cut. Shout to his stags. Shout out. You didn't really have a college football team.

I think you were hunting a little bit, and then as soon as we meet Signetian, see what type of football he likes to play. Hey, we like to play fundamentally sound football. We like guys that are dogs everywhere, and we're going to spin it. No risk it, no biscuit. A couple times last night, Signetti said you go go for it or you're going to lose. And if you go for it and you don't get it, you're an idiot.

But you go for it and you get it, obviously the right movies about you. That is kind of the story of this Indiana Hoosiers team. They've gone for it. Last year they were good. Obviously they lose the Notre Dame. Everybody calls them a joke. They reload comeback even better this year. 16 and O, first time that's been done in football since Yale and whatever.

And then obviously the Indiana Hoosier basketball team goes undefeated for their last national championship. for a national championship, and now the IU football team goes undefeated for a national championship. Crazy time in Indiana, great time to be an Indianapolis resident. And you becoming an IU fan here over the last couple years and getting in college football, perfect for you, New England Patriots fan. Yeah, no doubt about it. It was fantastic. You mentioned it, just the story of the misfits, you know, Coogan, their center, who I believe was out all last night based on the press conference and his face at the press conference, the boys were having a good time at 11.

but just his demeanor. Like it is very cool for a coach to go in and talk all that shit and then for him to follow up on it and actually win. And Natty is so cool. This morning waking up and seeing the scene or last night getting in, either way. Seeing the scene, yeah, in Bloomington last night was something very special. Like the drone footage, yeah, right here, boom.

Like all these kids on this, you know, one street celebrating a victory, just the passion. So cold out. Oh, God. zero degrees, possibly 10 under with the windshield. It was for reason, but you can't tell. I mean, they are having the time of their lives, fireworks. That is another scene out of the movie,

or a movie about this entire team. And a lot of the times we talk about, like, the cult fan bases in college football, like we're witnessing the birth of one, which I think is sweet. Like we are witnessing IU, who's always been a great, you know, athletic school as far as, you know, fans in Indiana, just in general.

Hoops. They got that, what's that, the basketball? Assembly Hall. They got like the largest students, I believe is what it's called. And it goes straight up. They take a lot of pride in, like, how much they've loved basketball. Hoops, hoops, hoops, hoops. Because that's really the only thing they've ever had a chance in. Since the Bob Knight days, it's like basketball is what we do here. Indiana is a basketball state.

Pacers were always like the thing, you know. It was Pacers and Racers. It was the Indy 500 and it was basketball. And that all goes back to Bob Knight at IU. All of it, all of this goes back to, Bob Knight basically birthing a basketball community out here. And that's what they felt they only had the opportunity in. So Signetti coming out, eerily similar to Bob.

Accountability driven, never happy. Not throwing a chair, not outrageous. He's a injury. He has his own. But he's older. He's a disciplinarian type guy. Perfect match. Dr. Pam Whitten said, you know, we laid the foundation for this in 2021.

We built up some infrastructure. Then whenever we needed a coach, we knew he was the guy. We knew he was the right guy for the fit. I'm not 100% sure she knew how perfect of a fit was for the fan base with them all being Bob Knight type people. But this fan base obviously loves him. And if you win, I mean, it's only going to continue to roll. That picture of SIG's first game down there in Indiana with 6,000, 5,000 people in the stands, maybe 4,000 people in the stands or whatever it is. I mean, obviously it's so big, it's tough to count maybe 1,000 people in the stands his first game there.

That's August 31st. That's not that long ago. Nope. Okay, so for what he's been able to do, he's been able to remain and keep people committed to the program, it's insanity. Now he's got to worry about guys leaving early. He's got to worry about who's coming in the transfer portal.

He's got to worry about the celebration that they've got to plan for the national championship. He's got to worry about going to other places because maybe he's getting acknowledged and honored for things. It's like, what an insane run. Strength coach getting paid the highest amount of money. Any strength coach has ever been paid to go down in Tennessee. He's a massive piece of.

this entire thing. Fernando Mendoza talked about how he added 15, 20 pounds this year strictly because the strength coach was like, you have to get bigger. It's like, all of it is so special down there. And to your point, it does feel like it's only starting. Oh, yeah. And like Rose Bowl, Indiana Hoosiers fans were like,

yeah, can't wait to travel all the way out there, drive on Tulane Road to get down. How many hours we've got in traffic? Four? Sick. The Hoosiers are in the Rose Bowl. We'll go there. Peach Bowl. Other side of the country. Oh, sick. Can't wait to go there and just kind of celebrate this entire thing. National Championship. It's a Miami home game.

Most expensive tickets in the history of college football playoff. Yes, I can't believe we get to go watch the Hoosiers play football right now. That is how the fan base kind of used the football team. And last night was a celebration of it. And it's only going to expedite the entire process, obviously. Yeah, it seemed like last night, you know, especially like if you went to a Big Ten school school and you have been watching Indiana, you know, for most of your life. It seemed like a lot of the fans were kind of in like the, hey, we may never get this opportunity again.

So, yeah, this is the most expensive ticket ever. but like I love the Hoosiers. I need to be there. And then after the game, after they win, like it's the expectation now. And they're in a perfect spot because like you said with SIG, he mentioned, should I retire? Like, well, what else am I going to do?

He's already turned, you know, he could have taken the Penn State job. I would assume that if his lawyer, he has a lawyer, doesn't have an agent, has a lawyer from Birmingham who does all this shit, I guess, for him. I assume if his lawyer would have reached out to any of these NFL teams, especially at this moment, Yeah.

Reach out to any of these NFL teams or any of these college teams and goes, hey, Sig's kind of interested in the situation. At this exact moment, they'd all go, blank check. What are you looking for, buddy? Because you've got business leaders, like profound business leaders that are watching these videos coming out of Signetti's leadership and how he views things. And they're like, who's, what is? Is this the greatest coach that we've ever seen?

Now, obviously, coach Sabin, Scha, Bill Belichick, goat for the NFL. But like the way Sig talks, the way he operates and the way he's been able to turn this over so quickly, he's got the entire world noticing like how special of a story happening in down there in Bloomington. Yeah and I think a lot of people like to take that and be like, well, it's overblown. He's a college football coach.

Maybe he's not. But because we talked with Sabin yesterday about the stars and you know how it's based on the recruiting companies that give these out. And yes, money and all that kind of stuff. But like you look at a guy like DeAngelo Ponce and I said this before the show and it was like kind of joking,

but also not joking. at all. Like, if Kurt Signetti had just the talent and the measurables of like an Ohio state team or you know, like we're all these guys when they come in to campus, it's like this guy's going to play in the NFL.

Like Indiana doesn't have a bunch of those guys. So if he did have a bunch of those guys, he might over the next 10 years go 160 and 0. Like there, I really think there is a legitimate because he's just, he's a fucking unbelievable coach. And the attention. into detail, all that kind of stuff.

Like, that's part of who he is. You know, yeah, he's a little quirky. He's different, but, like, he knows who he is, and he knows how to get the most out of his teams. And, like you said, like, last night was the example. But, like, if you think Indiana's going anywhere, you're out of your mind. Like, they are the new kings of the Big Ten.

It's only going up. Yeah. Yorkman, who runs Cook Medical Group down there in Bloomington, who is the head of the NIL. Obviously, Mark Cuban, very successful, accomplished, very wealthy Indiana Hoosier grad in alumni. Yinzer as well, just like Signetti, who comes out here to Indiana and has a professional career.

Shout out to that pipeline. Feels like Pittsburgh. Jinser's coming to Indiana having success is certainly something that's only going to continue. Like-minded people, a lot flatter here, you know, than Pittsburgh, massive hills everywhere. But like-minded folks, I think that is why I've loved living out here so much is because it does feel like home at this stage for me. but whenever you think about, like, Cuban is not the biggest owner to their sports. Cuban, certainly a part of the donations to their sports, has certainly helped basketball over the years,

has certainly helped football over the last couple years. But it's like he's not the only one. And there's people, I don't know if they have as much money as Mark Cuban, but they're spending a lot of their money on the Indiana Hoosiers. And that goes to Dr. Pam Whitten, who's rallied and said, hey, this is what we're focusing on. We're going to do this. And then obviously it goes to Kurt Signetti getting results this quickly. Because we talk about, you know, in the NIL era, the people with the money,

remember there was a whole time where James Franklin gets fired week five or whatever. Loses the Oregon, loses the UCLA, loses Northwestern at home. They're supposed to be national champions. That's a tough run. His record against top schools, terrible, abysmal is what they would say. Now, granted, those top schools, would they go on to become national champions? Just like Dan Lannning in Oregon is kind of staring down right now. Hey, you got your ass beat in these games.

She was like, yeah, too, who? The national champion. So maybe we talked about that. He might fall into that conversation. But then there was an immediate, like, well, just because the people who give the money to Penn State don't want James Franklin, like they shouldn't have any say or whatever. It's like, okay, well, then you're not going to get their money. And if you don't get their money, then you're not in the game anymore. So it's like Cignetti winning with these people's money.

Like Cuban said, he's like, hey, the decisions they're making with the money is very good. It's like, as long as you do good with it, I think these alumni get, like, excited that they're part of it. Like last night, all the people that donated from Indiana, who's your alumni, into the program and won, they feel like they won the National Chamber. Yeah, it was worth it. Great ROI.

They were the owner. Like, they think they were the owners of the team. They're telling their group, their friends that they flew down to Miami. A lot of planes. I mean, everybody thinks, like Texas has a lot of private planes. They certainly do. Everybody thinks, like, Miami has a lot of people with private planes. They certainly do.

Indiana's got a lot of Cessna's that were flying. down there because there's a lot of professional degrees coming at IU. So it's not like hundreds of millions, but you got a lot of millionaires coming out of Indiana University, med school, law school, Dennis school, business school. You're talking about those are all high paying jobs. So if you're able to give $100,000, $150,000, $2 million, $10 million, whatever it is, it's like, especially if you win and that money goes to a good player, like, hey, you help bring in Landina. We appreciate you doing it. then Landino's all over the place. The person that's giving them money is like,

that's because of me. That's my guy. So that money only goes up because it was like, that was fun. Yeah, I'll double it this year. Let's do that again. And it's like that's a two-year period he was able to convince people that that was the case. The big issue is can you get the financial supporting from the booster? Now, can you evaluate talent that goes to can you get the financial boosting?

Because if you're good at evaluating talent, guess what's going to come, that money. If you're bad at evaluating talent, guess what's going to shut off that money right there. He just set himself up for the next 10 years if he wanted to because all these boosters just had the night of their lives, the run of their lives, and they're only going to continue to give him because they know that it pays off. It's like, what a perfect run here over two years for Signet.

And I think even losing to Notre Dame was a good part of the story. Because the Indiana fans who have to live with Notre Dame people here in Indiana, shouts to Coach Freeman, by the way, absolute dog, very thankful he was on game day last night representing Notre Dame out there. But it was like, lose to Notre Dame. That only made like the boosters even more like, like, okay, we got to turn this up a little bit. We think we have it.

Then they went in Adi, it's like, man, all signs are up into the right for this Indiana Hoosier sports squad. Yeah, not just evaluating talent, but developing talent, like him and his OC and D.C. that have been there forever, Haynes and Shanahan. So look at the guys that came over from JMU. Ayn Fisher, the linebacker, he was two-time All-Big Ten after coming with him. He had a huge sack last night. Elijah Surrott didn't have his best game last night, but he's been all Big Ten twice.

DeAngelo Ponds. just an absolute stud. He'll be going in the NFL. Kamara with the blocked punt last night, a JMU guy. Kaelin Black, the running back was awesome. Tyreek Tucker was first team, all big tennis. So like, yeah, he can evaluate talent, but then they develop talent and make them better

than what they were supposed to be by whatever. And then you talk about, like, is this team going to go anywhere? No. They have a top five transfer portal class right now. I believe Sig, I rumored he's about to get his first five star. He's his four stars already committed. But like Charlie Becker is going to be

back. Cooper could be back. Who knows if he's going to go to the NFL or not. They just got Nick Marsh from Michigan State. Why receiver's going to be good? They brought in running backs. Their left tackle said he's coming back. They got a great O-Lignment from Wisconsin. They're just going to come back with the guys that they brought in and the guys that they have. And as long as they have that culture, like they're going to be good for a long time. Yeah, and SIG isn't going to let that culture go. And the alumni aren't going to let the money stop flowing in there. I think it's good for college football that the largest alumni base is going to be around for a while. Now, let's go to the other side of the coin.

nine-year NFL vet Brad County Hall of Famer ladies and gentlemen Terry H. J. Ballers here. Dave Bouch. We saw you potting. No. We saw you potting for a little bit.

And then you said, wait, this is a national championship game. Miami's playing in it. We're in Miami. This is a cool moment. You had to, I think, do a couple motivational speeches to yourself to get yourself into a spot of like,

yeah, lucky to be thankful to be here, lucky to be here. but when it was 10-0 and Indiana was up and they get the ball back right before half and kind of just let it kind of run down and then they throw a Hail Mary and it doesn't work out. Then they get the ball to start the second half. It's like that could have been 13, then that could have been 20.

Like that could have been 20-0-0 Indiana there with two more serieses. And then this Miami team fought. Like I think the best thing about this Miami team that we've seen throughout the entirety of college football playoff is they answered the bell. Little down with explosive plays with Mark Fletcher, who's an absolute dog, this guy. Got into a little something after the,

game there. That's certainly going to be talked about. Everybody around Mark Fletcher says he is great human being. His interaction with Fernando Mendoza was obviously very sentimental and everything like that. He was a huge piece of the Hurricanes puzzle, a season and into the playoff run or whatever the case is. But it's like they answered the bell every single time. And then Christobal comes out afterwards, gets emotional in the hallway. You know, and Christopher's not really an emotional guy. You can see him, though. The Big Bear was trying to hold back. He was. Oh, yeah. There was a couple. coming as he was talking about what that locker room did for the U, what that locker room did for Miami,

what that locker room did for the school. He talked about like for the first time in 25 years, it felt like how it was supposed to feel because of who was in that locker room right there. So that's obviously a rough way to end the season. But for the Miami Hurricanes, I think you zoom out a little bit. Good place, great place. What a run, even though you lose to the Hoosiers. Yeah, absolutely.

I'm sure they feel terrible today because you only get, you know, so many opportunities when you're on this stage. You talked about it being 25 years since it won. And you talk about a program in an area that's kind of hot bear for talent. So you get to that mountain top and then you come up short. You see the confetti. You see the celebration with Indiana on your home field. That's going to be a tough pill to swallow.

And you know this. Like you never have that same team. It's never going to be that same group of guys, you know, the coaches, the players, all of the staff, the men and women behind the scenes who play whatever role they play. But they fought. They left it all out on the table. Even getting into the playoffs, it was questioned going into the playoffs. They had to battle the conditions and everything in Texas A and them on the road out there.

Then you go to Ohio State. That was kind of a back and forth dogfight. Then the Fiesta Bowl, same thing with Ole Miss came down to the end. They just answered the bell. Last night you mentioned Indiana had went up. And based on what we saw in Indiana leading up to that game, it could have gotten a situation where they just blow the doors off. But they competed. They continued to fight.

It just came up short. Indiana was the better team. They found a way to win it down the stretch. And usually big games come down to just big moments that, you know, not going for. and the end of the first half missing that field goal. I feel like that was a huge moment. And then Indiana, obviously, going for it, making that decision that, hey, you know what?

We're not going to live in our fears. We're going to go out here and win it and put the ball in our best player's hands. And Fernando made an unbelievable play that will live in history forever. And then the play call. The play call was great as well because, you know, that defense and that team, when you think about Miami, the first thing you think about is the game recorders off the edge.

We saw them dominating the all-playoff run, Ruhma Bain, Jr., and Akeem Messador. So you use their strength against them. You know they're going to get up field on fourth and five, fourth and four, and then you use that quarterback draw, and then he made a phenomenal play to jump cut, ran over backer, took two tremendous shots, and then dove into the end zone.

So it came down to moments, and they made the plays. The other fourth down to Charlie B. You know, he stepped up and made unbelievable catches down the stretch. It was just an all-around tone named all the names who made huge plays in this game, and that's what it's going to come down to, and it ended with Jamari Sharp going up and intercepting it

to close it out. Another Miami kid. What do you think happened on that play? What do you think that happened on that play? I mean, I think Keelaneran, I don't think he expected the ball because on the snap, you saw the safety get off the hash and go over the top. And usually when you have, it's like receivers cloud, he's basically double covered. So he's like, okay, I'm not going to be in this progression. Carson Beck probably going to go to Wales. But Beck probably made his mind up pre-snap, I'm assuming that I'm going to Keelan. And Jamarri Sharp did a great job. He didn't have another threat in the flat.

He just continued to sink back, have his eyes on the quarterback, and then, go up and high point it and get the interception. I'm sure Beck, you know, obviously you hate this. This is the biggest moment. This is 40 seconds. And the clock was this first down? I believe first down. So you had other opportunities.

And he just threw it up there. I think Keelan took the blame for it after the game, which, you know, a good teammate will. He thought he was running a distraction route right there. Yeah. He goes all the way out to the side of line. Let me get these guys as far away from the play as possible. Yeah. You can see his helmet.

On the other angle kind of from behind him, you can just see his helmet, not even looking back at the quarterback, but looking at the safety. So once again, once you see that, you're like, this ball's not coming to me. I got two guys on me. Somebody else has to be open. So it was a bad read.

You know, it was a bad throw. But it happens in this moment. There were other opportunities for Miami to win this game. And it just comes down to making plays. And Indiana made more plays. Carson back, by the way, for M.I.I. Stock up. That obviously not a good play.

And I think he wanted to throw it to Mary. Marion made a lot of plays for him. Not that Malachi Tony had and C.J. Daniels had, Alex Bauman, number 87. Yeah. Yeah. He gets thumped. Cool.

He might have his own highlight reel of taking monster hits throughout the season. It's, you know, he's wearing 87. He's a massive white tight end. So you immediately think to yourself, oh, Grancowski, right? Because that's just how it's going to go forever. And then you remember about Grunk. What was Gronks thing? Well, because he was so big, he took so many big shots.

It was like, that's why he had some back issues coming out. And that's why, like, you know, when he was playing, he's the most dominant guy on a football field. but he was taking huge shots, let alone people trying to soft his knees, everything, it's out of being. It's like that Bowman guy, every time we saw him around the ball,

he was getting thumped. That hit from pawns on him, 170 pounder to dislodge the ball. What a shot by him. But on that note, I think Carson made up his mind, I'm going to Marion here, deep shot on this particular play.

Because if it's incomplete, cool, we still got a couple more shots at this thing. Let's go ahead and try to steal it. Obviously, it doesn't work out because of a miscommunication, almost like Caleb and DJ Morle on how the game would end there. But on that note, it's like, I like what Carson Beck showed. I think Carson Beck showed a lot of fight.

I think Carson Beck was a good teammate. I think Carson Beck in the big moments throughout the entirety of the college football playoff rose to the occasion. It's like, I was very impressed with that Miami team. I thought Indiana was going to cover for sure. The fact that everybody else on Game Day thought it was Miami was crazy to me. Weird. I was very like, I'm like, you guys doing this for a bit.

I didn't know if there was a bit that I guess. I figured Des because he lives there, right? Yeah, Des, that's fine. He lives in Coral Gables. He's been on them heavy. And Coach Saving, he's been on Miami, too. He kind of said, hey, if they got into the dance, they got into the playoffs, this would probably be the most dangerous team

in their Miami being on the run that they had. The physicality, too, we watched Miami the whole run. Like them in the trenches, their size and how physical they were, I thought that could have definitely been the difference in the game. But, like, the job that Sig has done, Coach Signetti, Like, this is, and this isn't, I don't think, a crazy statement. This is the best coaching job I've ever seen in college football, probably in sports. Not only the turnaround, you talk about the talent evaluation part of it, which is huge.

But then the game management part of it. And you can see it. We always are on the field so we can see what's going on kind of in between the TV timeouts and stuff. Like, he lets his guy's coach. Like he sets the tone and obviously he runs the show and I don't know what's going on in practices, but he lets his guy's coach. He lets his guys step up in those situations. So just everything that he's been able to do, like, it's going to be unbelievable.

And you got to take advantage of the opportunity that you get when you reach this stage. Because we all assume we see great teams, great coaches, great quarterbacks. You know, oh, they'll be back. You know, they'll have another opportunity. They'll win two. They'll win three. A lot of people say Ohio State just going to run it back this year because of the talent they had all up and down that roster. So you got to take advantage.

You can't live in your fears in these moments. And now he is the best leader of men that I've seen this year throughout the season. They deserve, you know, the 16 and 0. just an unbelievable job from top to bottom with this program. He's supposed to be a football coach. Oh, yeah. That is what he's supposed to. In this era, he's supposed to be a football coach.

Go ahead, Tom. We talk about how much of a movie this is and the ties between Miami and this IU team with Mendoza. Jamari Sharp, who got the last interception, his uncle, Glenn Sharp was the one who got called for the PI in the Ohio State game. Ohio State, Miami Natty. So, like, just the ties and everything that goes into this was just insane all around. Storybook, yes, very much so. Yeah, and Sharp thought about not taking his helmet off. Thought about it like Tuesday, because that was right in front of us.

So I literally saw the contemplation in his eyes. Not supposed to take this off. Just one of the national chambers in Miami. Let me go ahead and pop that thing off. It's me. This is what this was. Immediate, obviously, flag flies, half the distance to it all. Siggo on the sideline, I think, is like, we want to Nash.

You can't do that. But also, it's awesome. and yeah, it was a special night. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, his man who had a special day on the internet yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen, he is the ball-knower for ESPN, former NFL quarterback, friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rolofsky.

Yeah, you know. Dan O, family forever. Obviously, love what you're wrapping up there. Also, good to see you whole. You know what I mean? Good to see you whole, because yesterday I saw you put out a tweet, and it was pretty depressing. I'll be honest.

This app will break you. You're breaking, man. And I'm in the middle of, I don't know what time you put that out. It could have been any time of the day. Yesterday it was all one big blur. But I remember I'll scroll on my phone looking for things, you know, what's going on in Bloomington, what's watch parties just for me to use maybe in game days. And I see this tweet and I go, come on, Dan. I don't need this dramatic bullshit. So then I searched Dan Rolovsky on X.

I can see how it could potentially break you, Leah. You were really getting it on the shins, brother. Is everything all right? Are we okay? How do we feel? Long day in the internet. Long day on the internet. Are you back in the batter's box or what do we do?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm here. Absolutely. Yeah. Who hates you? New Day. How do Indiana fans feel about you? Have you been on Indiana?

You know, or have you been against you? No, I picked Indiana. Yeah, yeah. I feel like the Indiana fans, I got, I got support from the Indiana fans. The people who hate me the most right now, I believe are anyone from New England. Yes. mainly the Irish, I would imagine. I believe people from Baltimore have hated me for well over a year.

I think the people in Chicago disliked me pretty significantly. So I've got some group of groups of people who hate me right now. Okay, so obviously you earned these things. So groups of people don't know about that. Yes, you did. Shut up. You know you did from New England. Yeah, there you go.

That's an Irish from the New England. It's not just Irish, by the way. Okay. The Italians, I know, don't like him. Basically, everybody in New England doesn't like him. It's not just, oh, Irish, Irish guys. Probably fair. What did you do?

What did you do to New England? What did you do up there? Well, what happened, this is the chain of events. So for the great majority of this season, I have spoke glowingly about the Patriots, mainly the offense. Don't do this whole thing. Just say what you did yesterday, Dan. We don't have to go all the way back, though. It's just what you did yesterday.

You are, I'm sorry. Yesterday. Okay. And so then going into the game, I truly felt that Houston, because of their defense, would go there and win. They don't. I think a huge part of that reason why, even though the defense was outstanding, was, you know, the play of CJ. CJ just was bad. there's no other way for me to categorize it.

And bad in ways that we just haven't seen C.J. be bad. Certainly a guy of his caliber. And so yesterday, on get up, I said, Houston wins that game with 31 other quarterbacks. And that, I think a lot of the Patriots fans took this as a shot to New England. It wasn't intended to that to be that. It was more to put the context of like, listen. Shot CJ.

And even while I'm saying it, Pat, I go, in Credit New England, they made crucial plays in big moments. Drake had some big time throws, but I think Patriots fans took it as a slight to being like, oh, nothing the Patriots did matter. No, of course it did. It was just to put in the context of

surprisingly how bad CJ played and how much he hurt the team. And so it was probably a little aggressive, yes, probably a little aggressive. Yeah, you were Lobski did a little bit. You were Lobski did a little bit. Probably the better way for me to say it is C.J. Stroud did the one thing C.J. Stroud couldn't do, right? Just give the ball to the other team. That interception, the first one, that's on first down. This interception, that's on first down. The one that goes off Hutchinson's hands, I'm not putting on CJ. This is not his fault. I can nitpick and say maybe get the ball down in his body, sure. And then the one right before the half, it's on first down. So three out of the four interceptions are on first down. And they're just head scratching decision. and throws.

Take away also the fact that they score a touchdown on third and goal, but they don't get it because of a legal procedure because he sends the tight end in motion before the fullback is set. They don't get it and it ends up to field goals. So you sit there and I go, well, that's a touchdown taken away. Pick six, three points because of a field position. So, yeah, probably aggressive. But there was no intended slight to the Patriots.

Obviously the defense was very good and the offense was, I thought Drake played good. Okay, so then the immediate follow-up is that wasn't a slight. I'm just saying if he didn't do this on first down and all this other stuff, and then the Patriots fans are saying what? You don't think Vrable would have figured out the other quarterback if they were going in a play? You don't think that they were actually. Well, we just beat Justin Herbert.

And it's like, well, Herbert's defense didn't cause a, I don't know how many funnels. This would be the mind of a hater here. Now you're trying to find reasons on why they're not good, which is what they probably sensed all season. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, let's go to Baltimore now. What did you do to boss? So you pissed off all in New England because you're, been a hater and you didn't think they were going to be as good as they are.

Yes, yes. Quick turnaround. Obviously, is surprised this all what Vrable's been able to do. Drake May's a real guy. You can admit that. You're allowed to change that going forward, excited to watch you. Now, let's talk about Baltimore. Why do they hate you? Hate me. That's not a good city to be hated in.

I don't think Baltimore's a good city to be hated in. Just because they're very passionate great shit talkers. And I watch the wire. Yeah, big go. And I just don't know. I have not. She smart. I have not seen the wire. Watch that later if you make up with them.

Let's go. Amen. What did you do? Actually, I've pondered going to the Morgan Wallen show in Baltimore this summer because it's not in New England. I don't. That's an interesting guy in there. I don't know how to feel. That's the right.

I don't know. I genuinely don't know what the right answer is here. Okay, on that note, why do they hate you down in Baltimore? I believe they hate me because I voted for Josh to win the MVP last year. and everyone thinks that when Lamar loses, I say Lamar stinks, and when Josh loses, I make excuses for Josh,

which is not factually actually. Oh, Josh's water. On ESPN. You know, we're probably on ESPN. A thousand percent true. I said that,

it's literally not true. It's just made up. It's 100% made up. Okay, 100% seems like a pretty high number like you just were Loveskid. No, it's 100% made up that I'm like hypercritical of Lamar. I'm not. Lamar lost in the playoffs last year. And I was one of the people who was like,

I can't pin this on Lamar. Even though he has the two turnovers. I'm like, one of those turnovers are plays that Lamar, 49 out of 50 times, make something great out of. And so I have nothing but for Lamar. I voted for Lamar the year before, an MVP. Dan, when the bills got beat this weekend, all you were doing was bitching about the officiator. Yeah, and were you kicked out of your ex account? Was it not working? Like, what was happening? I didn't see anything coming up whenever Josh Allen. I honestly, I don't, I didn't talk about the bills game much yesterday. We didn't talk about it because the McDermott firing. Yeah, which was another.

There's another reason. People from Baltimore were mad. During the game. Yeah. During the game. What did you say, Connor? Well, there's a lot of things to address here. It seems like. People were mad about the fodder around the McDermott firing because the reasoning was, hey, if you don't win enough, you got to make a change. Yeah, there it is. Results. Base business. I understand the move. And then the Harbaugh firing, Orloffs, you say kind of the opposite thing. Like, I don't understand how you can do anything like this at all.

My gosh, dude, this is my world right now. One happens in real time, which is the McDermott firing. That's what happened. One, Harbaugh happened, not in real time. It was hours after we commented on. I literally said the same thing on NFL live about the McDermott firing that I said about the Harbaugh firing. is it the right decision? No, because I have no idea what the next answer is.

I have no idea who that next coach is going to be and how good he'll be. Two, you're not going to find a better coach than Sean McDermott on the market right now outside of Mike Tomlin. We know he's not coaching. I said the same thing about Harbaugh. Just people make stuff up. Okay, so thank you for clearing the air there. I don't know if people are going to believe you. Maybe you should rip the clips and post them.

You're very active on X except for whenever the guys you like and put the Dan Wagon on or playing bad, which is what some people have kind of notice as well. But hey, you're trying to back your thoughts. it's your business. I mean, your thoughts are your business. Your opinions are your business. I understand you've got to stand by him. And then let's go to Chicago. What'd you do to them? I think Chicago people hate me.

I don't know the necessarily the why. I guess I said because it was going to take some time for Caleb to master Ben Johnson's offense. And I know if it was going to be the perfect match, still stand by that. Obviously, the match is worked out, but I don't believe he's mastered the offense yet. But I think just because of that.

So you're holding the line with the, you're in a three-front war right now. You think, I think it's probably more. There's probably little militias all around that are certainly ready to get in. But you're holding the line, you're holding the line against Chicago. You're saying, nah, I don't deserve this one here. Okay, I'm going to go to battle here. New England? Okay, I could get the New England one.

I can get it. I can understand it. Yeah, and from Connecticut, you know, you kind of understand the humans up there. You're probably doing a little bit. It's like whenever I talk about soccer. You know, I grew up in the soccer world. very easy. Just, you guys run a farm league over there in France.

Don't you? Just the entire country now is upset about me, some stupid American talking about their league. I feel like you do that to New England because you potentially enjoy it. And then for Baltimore, I'll tell you what, I think you get on their bad side.

That's forever. Yeah. That seems like this town. Yeah, Morgan Wallin's show. Yeah, get a microphone. I think I'm going to look into the show in India, Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's probably some other cities too. I don't know. Indie's pretty good. Yeah, I don't, yeah.

All right. Let's move along. Let's talk about current ball. Last night, we watched the Indiana Hoosiers do something that is like, maybe the best lower third we've ever had. This is on in airports everywhere. People are traveling back from the game. People are doing everything.

It's on cafes. This thing popped up while you were explaining your first war. Who controls that? Who controls that? Is that Foxy? No, that's Nick in the back. Yeah, it's Nick in the back. Nick, you're.

I did, good to see you. Yeah, he does the audio in the lower thirds. So if he wants to mute you, he can certainly do that. And then what pops up on a lower thirds is out of his brain. And I appreciate the creative liberty you took on this particular one. You got a big pop out of me, for sure. You know, that's just supposed to keep people informed on what the subject is. So if they were to pop in a little bit late, what we're talking about here.

Or if you're walking through an airport or a cafe and you see the screen, the lower third and the graphics are the only thing that these people know from this show. Yeah, there's probably a couple of people stopping, being like, yep. Thank you, Roloski's piss everyone off. Finally, ESPN's telling the truth. And then they move forward. Now, I said something to Robin Roberts yesterday, whenever Reese said to Robin, she said, oh, Reese said my old Sports Center co-hosts used to do it back in there.

I was like, those are good times. And I was like, that was back when ESPN was good. You know, I said that on game day, just, I mean, clearly something I would say in the moment. And everybody's like, Pat just takes shots of ESPN. It's like, I think I'm on ESPN more than any human. At this point, I think I am on ESPN more. that was a shot directly. Everybody's saying ESPN is terrible now because of us.

And everybody was like, Macfee just killed everybody at ESPN. It's like, no, that was me saying this is what people say about what we've done to the sports as a whole. But also, I guess, Dan Orlovsky is done too. So when we have this thing down here, Robin Roberts is like, I fucking built this place for what? For Orlovsky to start a war in three different cities with 15 different militias? That's why Reese and Robin doing sports there? that was back when ESPN was good. And we're both to blame for that, Dan.

I think you're a little bit more than me, even though I get lumped in all those things. But I do appreciate that you hop in a batter's box. And once again, I would like let people know. His opinions are his business, though. So, like, he's certainly going to want his opinions to be right and be good. So everybody's like, oh, he's just kind of justify himself. It's like, but that's kind of the game.

That's his entire job. Like, yeah, it is actually. I hate when I'm wrong. I literally hate it. I hate it more than I, can express in words. You love when you're right. Hey. God, you love when you're right, though, don't you? No doubt. You remember

when I said this? It's like, Dan, how many other things you say that? I don't know. I don't know if you remember this. All right, let's talk about last night. Congrats at the Hoosiers. We're incredibly pumped to be in Indiana. At the time, the Indiana Hoosiers football team is having a movie like, once in a lifetime, historic generational

type rebuild and run. On that note, the quarterback felt perfect for the head coach. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Dan, he did. And we have now seeing Fernando three straight games with our own eyes and we've watched every single throw not only on the field but also on the sideline

when he is warming up and the ball is never not a perfect spiral and we've seen him make every throw we've seen outs from the far hash we've seen deep balls of Charlie Becker in routes, quick routes, whatever now there's a lot of people we think Mendoza's a guy

like that is what this show thinks but there's a lot of people out there who say he shouldn't be a number of overall pick or he He'd be the worst number one overall pick for a quarterback in a while. A lot of people, just because they run so much RPO are downgrading him for that, even though he does not call the plays. So I don't know if you hold that against him as well. But what are your thoughts as a pro for Mendoza?

Yeah, I thought it was the most impressive game of his caller's career for me when it comes to how he handled struggle. It wasn't flawless. It wasn't as easy or as dominant as it's been. this game was a little bit more representative of what life is like for quarterbacks in the NFL. It's not just the easy process of you're up 21-0 and you can kind of coast. There was pressure. There was huge pivotal moments. There was having to make tough decisions or tough throws with the football.

It was getting beat up physically. And then obviously moments of having to be clutch and being at his absolute best when it was needed the most. And I think that would be the biggest takeaway. You know, I saw a video on the internet pregame. I believe it was Mark Davis and Brady down there on the field. Spy Tech as well. And I would just have to imagine. Go ahead.

SpyTech was there as well. I think it was Brady, Mark, SpyTech. I think it was the entire breath. I would have to imagine just knowing a little bit about Tom. Like I would imagine Tom was just watching all of the stuff most intently outside of the actual play of how he dealt with the good stuff. how he dealt with the bad stuff, what was his interaction with teammates, how he handled third downs, what was he like in the huddle, what was he like on the sideline, what was he like coming out of the huddle on that fourth and five when he back shoulders, Becker, just watching the body language and the mannerism,

I think you had to fall in love with. And listen, there's something to be said for competitive fire. Obviously, the young man's talented, he's athletic, he's big, he's tall, he can spin it. But there is something about this unique, rare, competitive fire that he has that allows him to be his best when it's needed the most. So I haven't studied these guys intently like I will as we lead up into the draft. But I think last night has to make you, if you were a little bit of a doubter, it has to make you look at him differently just because the way the game went. Dan, I think when you watch the film, it's only going to, this dude. Yeah. 65-2-30-2.

So that's a whole other element. Andy can run. And you talk about his competitive fire, dude's a nerd. Like, this dude is a nerd, too. And he's out as a- Psychopath, it seems like. Yeah, and he's out at 11 with the boys, too,

you know, having beers. It's like the guy is seemingly, he's a football nerd, which is what we want. He loves the sport, loves showcasing that he loves the sport. In the Big Ten game, first play of the game.

Yeah. Caden Curry, he gets, upended launch in here has the moment where all the air leaves his body. I thought maybe he had a fractured ribs. He leaves for the game. People think it's over for him potentially. Like this guy's done for the game.

Then he like puts the helmet back on, comes jogging out. And then he tells us, no lie. He cracked me pretty good. No pause. I mean, that guy got me pretty good, but that's football. I like getting back up there.

He takes pride in all the things that you would want your starting quarterback to take pride in. Hey, I have a relationship with my entire team. Hey, I want to be tough. Hey, I want to know everything the defense is doing. And oh, yeah, his arm talent is elite. It's like, I think he's generational, personally, from watching him. I think he's a generational like quarterback.

And Tom Brady, what did Tom Brady say whenever he sprinted down to the end zone before the games? What did he scream? He said, let's fudgeon go. Okay, what did old buddy say last night on the microphone, Fernando? He actually did drop a heart. Let's fucking go, boys. Yeah, and who was that? LFG is.

what Tom's thing. Yeah, it's like, I mean, you're talking about like Tom probably sees a lot of himself, I assume in Mendoza, whenever he watches him, guy committed to ball, addicted to ball. Yeah. But then also the other qualities that Tom doesn't have. It's like, this guy's a super nerd. Like he is a, like that is who he is as a person. It's like he's a weapon.

I'm very, very, and obviously the toughness is always on display. It's like, I think he's generational, Dan. I legitimately, yeah. Yeah, I don't disagree. And I think, like, when you watch the. more the thing the more you study the tape but the thing that really stood out in the player front it's kind of my favorite quality that a quarterback can have or one of them is how fast their eyes are I thought his eyes were just crazy fast last night without you know getting out of control we have

some quarterbacks that you know they kind of see so many different things they're all over the place but his eyes are quick repetition understanding processing so that's going to be a huge thing you know I'll touch on tones question about the RPO's quarterback just run RPO's nowadays I And Cam Ward ran a ton at Miami. He was the number one pick. Jackson Dart ran a ton at Ole Miss. You know, I think it's still, you're still reading defenders. Now, if he didn't have these back shoulder down the field throws that require great timing,

great trajectory and type of throw and then placement, and then obviously just that run is competitiveness. So, yeah, I'm a fan. I'd also say this, you kind of have to have a couple screws loose to be the number one pick and start to flip a bad franchise. You can't be like everybody else. The guy that was, you know, the closest to doing in a short period of time is a guy that we just know has a couple screws loose in Baker. I mean, he's got, he's wired differently. I think this guy's got relatively unique wiring.

And if you're going to go to the Raiders and get the Raiders good in a decent amount of time, you got to have just a couple screws. You got to be a little bit off because there's got to be a little bit of psychopath in you. The boys would immediately say Joe Burrow as well would be a great reference point. Totally. Because also personalities, you know, it is like, I really like Fernando. I really like. And then his story with his mom, with MS, it's like everything about him is like, this guy, should he be president too?

I don't fully comprehend. Loves ball, teammates love him, which is sweet. Good luck to all of them. Now, we got a couple new head coaches. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, Dan, oh, we had 10 head coach openings now four have been filled with hardball. Defansky, Halfley, and Robert Sala now. What's your favorite hire that has happened?

And then what is the next hire that you see or that you will want to see for a team in the head coach? I think my favorite hire is Harbaugh to the Giants just because it brings them immediate expectations, a different culture overnight. You know, the Giants before they hire Coach Harbaugh were a losing culture. It was a losing organization. The minute they hire Coach Harbaugh automatically goes to, well, it's now a winning culture, at least a guy that's running the place now, is in his blood winning.

And then two, the expectations are they'll be competitive next year. I don't think that's a far fetch either. And so I love that hire. I love that the fact that he's got a young quarterback that, you know, obviously certainly not in the talent level that Lamar Jackson had, but he's got the experience of having a young, dynamic playmaking quarterback that you can kind of build around and try to win with. I still want to see who the offensive coordinator is because that's going to be a huge part.

Todd Monkin's name has been thrown around, but we'll find out. But I love that. I think the second one is Kevin Stafansky. I have said this about Atlanta. I think Kevin Stavansky, if Kirk Cousins is there, they win 11 games next year. It's a very good offensive line. Offensibly, they're as talented as, you know, the top 10 teams in the league. They've got a back in Bajon that is as talented as anyone, young defensive studs,

past rushers. And so I think Kevin Stefansky going to Atlanta is perfect. There is a question mark at quarterback. Michael Pennix won because of the lack of really development and then also the injury. You can't go into next year just thinking it's Pennix. We'll see how healthy is to even get into the conversation. I would imagine there'll be a player for Kirk because it sounds like Kirk restructured his contract. They'll cut him all that stuff. Shoot, I would tell you that they would be a prime place for me to see if they could trade for Mac Jones. out of San Francisco. But we'll kind of see what the move

that quarterback is, but I do like Stefansky there. Maybe Mac Jones wins back Atlanta a little bit. That was maybe turned off by the decision, bring Stefansky in there, which leads me to this question. So we just think that Deshawn Watson deal was the reason why Stafansky couldn't win in Cleveland, or like

Cleveland notoriously sucks. They get a quarterback that wins him a playoff game. Stafansky was a part of running him out of town, right? Basically, didn't get along with him. And then he doesn't win. and then he gets a head coaching gig two days after he's fired from being a failed head coach at Cleveland.

So everybody just kind of puts it on Andrew Barry, has him, and a bad to Sean Watson deal because then we see Sean Payton eating $700 million in cap space and going to the AFC and hosting the AFC championship game. So I think a lot of people are confused

on how Stefansky's automatically just giving a pass as if he's a good head coach. Like that was kind of the surprise to me. I'm like, Stefansky is all of a sudden a guy we definitely want, well, there's no other coaches out there. It's like, well, we know what he is. Do we not or do we not know what do you? So you think people are just blaming Cleveland for that one as a whole?

Maybe even the city, the lake, and everything like that? Or why do you think like? We've been over this. I don't need more enemies. I don't need more cities that hate me. I'll say it stinks. Cleveland could, yeah. I think he's a coach.

I think when he's got competent quarterback play, he's one. I think when he had Baker and Joe, I think the record was like 26 and 16, something like that. And then what? And then everyone's like, well, what? He ran Baker out of town, man. Baker had a terrible shoulder, and he had him throw it, what, 75 times or whatever? Kept taking Chubb off the field. Chob was the best runnerback in the game.

And it's like, then he runs Baker Mayfield out of town. Then they end up in what, maybe not just him, maybe it was everybody. We don't know the behind-the-scenes story, but we do know that he threw the ball 60 times with Baker's shoulder publicly and clearly not good against the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense. So, like, I think there was a lot of things like, this doesn't seem like the right move. And Cleveland stinks, still, Miles Garrett got a lot of sacks there. So maybe Stafansky's bringing that down there?

I don't know how that's immediately just like the right play. And I think a lot of people in Atlanta question of the same thing. Stavansky coached the year before. So maybe there's a chance he has great success. And I'm not just saying he can't do it, but it's like, that guy just gets a head coaching job in the NFL. There's only 32 of these things. And, you know, it's just an interesting decision for me.

And Sala going to Tennessee, I like that move, I think. I think I like that move for Sala. I do too. I do too. Yeah, I think Sal is a good coach. Who's going to be the offense coordinator? That's really the thing that matters the most. We all, it's like the Giants.

Harbys is a great hire. The success of the head coach in these places in New York and certainly in Tennessee is going to be almost solely dependent upon who's the offensive coordinator and where do they take that young quarterback developmental-wise. I don't know if it's going to be Mike LaFleur. I don't know if it'll be Mike McDaniel. I don't know if it would be Matt Nagy, but I do know this. Cam Ward is talented.

And Cam Ward had as many wow throws as any quarterback in football you can make the case. Certainly the young ones. And I think this is a really interesting hire with Robert Sala, who I believe is a good coach and had some stuff stacked against them in New York is the offensive coordinator in Tennessee cannot coach this special out of Cam Ward, but has to get the sloppy out of them. because there is some mechanical like, hey, dude, like we can't always shoot the three-pointer. So there is some mechanical stuff that you want to clean up, but you can't coach the special out of him.

And I think that's really important for the hire. I like Sala a lot. It looked like he found his smile again. Yes, which was good. And then what happened to the Jets after he left? I mean, he still don't have an interception. Nope. He still don't have an interception.

At least the defense was always good with him there. The offense was horrendous, but the defense was always good. And then the more stories we hear about behind the scenes, it's like, how did this guy? I don't know how you do anything there. So good luck to him. We're happy football is giving him another opportunity. Speaking of football giving another opportunity, a big one, con man. Yeah, Dano, I would love to hear your thoughts.

Not really, but I am going to ask you about him. Well, here's an opportunity to be a hater. Yeah, here you go. Basically, just giving you a tee ball. Sean Payton, Jared Stidham. I believe New England is 0 in the playoffs on the road at Denver. So there are a lot of things. things stacking up against the team that you hate more than anybody than New England Patriots.

What do you think Stidham and Sean Payton are cooking up right now? And what is kind of your confidence level in them? It feels like Stidham could also, you know, we're talking about Atlanta Falconseney and a quarterback. He's got two games to maybe put on a show perhaps be the quarterback of the future for a team. Yeah. My wife just laughed at something. You guys are on to the side while she's folding laundry.

so I don't know what she laughed at in regards to what you said. Thank you, Mrs. Orlovsky. Yeah, Boston Connor said he hates you. No, he did not. That is propaganda. You can hear us right now. He doesn't think that. Oh, he's lying.

Oh, Adoloski. Oh, Polonozki. It's not fun to twist someone's words, huh? Wow, that's a little bit. That is a lot. It's a strange word. It's a joke. It's a joke.

I was joking, babe. Um, it's down right. I'm going, Dan. I don't know. He's down in the dumps, Dan, oh. Oh, no, he's down in the dumps, Daniel. Good Lord. Oh, dumpy Daniel.

Okay, sorry, sorry. We'll stop. We didn't say that and Connor didn't say that. Dan O. In the O stands for, ouch. Dad, oh, and the O stands for, oh, no. Dan, oh, no. You got some tough times?

You guys done? We're running out of time. If you would like to answer the Stidham question, this is a pretty big deal with the UFC Championship and you're distracting and disrupting. Dan, no, I think,

Dan, go fuck yourself. Oh, okay. That was a good one. Go, oh. Maybe Dan,

no. He's laughing. We don't like it. Boom. Yeah, there's a lot of those. Yeah. Dan Froyo.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Sorry. All right, we don't have enough time for your answer. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen,

that was Dan. Rolovsky. Had it, David. Dan, Dan, O. Got to clear the air. That was nice. Dan Dope, maybe.

Yeah. There's a lot of opportunity there with that O sound. He has a three-front war he thinks going on. So that's interesting. Definitely more. He left out a bunch of cities.

Bill's Mafia probably loves him, though. Yeah, I mean. I assume. I assume they just don't kind of, that's the issue, though. This is what I've learned. Some of these fan bases, if you support them the whole time,

like, I think they just kind of feel they don't have to really support you. So as soon as you go against other people, they're attacking you, but the people that you've supported not really go into the battlefield for you. So it's like,

man, I'm not saying Bill's Mafia is doing that for Dan. Oh, no, I got no support. Dan, no support. I'm not saying that that's not. Dan, do you have any of these fans that you've Dan waggoned over the years going to bat for you?

I'm still on. So now, Dan, Oh, no, you're not. Okay, it's Dan Rolovsky. Thanks, Dan. Oh, I'm still on. What was he doing?

Watching the show through his phone? We already know his wife's watching the left. Dan, this is on you. This is your fault. This guy's a jackass. But just know that Dan, Dan, oh, and he owes for oblivious that he's potentially offending. Yeah.

You know, he's just kind of, what? I didn't say that. You twisted my words. I didn't mean that, at least in my brain that's someone. And Dan's a sweet boy. Boy, he's in the middle of it. Hour two on the other side. Football.

He's the greatest. You know the greatest college football team on earth is? The Indiana Hoosiers. Hell yeah. Last night, the Indiana Hoosier football team representing the Big Ten conference. The Big Ten becomes, I don't know, how many conferences have done in the past?

I'm going to say none. Three straight national championships with three different schools representing the Big Ten. Obviously, the SEC has not had representative in the National. championship and obviously hasn't had a national champion winner. And if you listen to Coach Saban, that might not be changing for some time with the NIL and the transfer portal in the north,

having a lot of universities that have a lot of successful graduates who have a lot of money that would maybe like to see their sport do well, just like the Indiana Hoosiers have. 8606,000 active living alumni from Indiana University schools, not all of them coming through Bloomington, but the IU school system that is across the board, they have a lot of people that are very excited that they can finally say, yeah, we have a football team. All they've ever been able to talk about is how cool Bloomington is. Great town, great college town.

I mean, it is a phenomenal college town. You know, a couple success stories coming out of their basketball team being great. Little Five is one of the greatest celebrations and one of the greatest days on any campus across the entire country throughout the year. But now they get a chance to say, yeah, that's our school. And then they also get to say, oh, yeah, we're also doctors and lawyers and Dennis and CEOs, CFOs, CMOs. Like, they have so many people that have been waiting for a moment to become loud about your Hooserness.

And they certainly have answered the bell. The alumni, the donors have answered it. And Kurt Signetti has taken to school with no hope to the Promise Land. And that is a beautiful thing that only sports can perform. and we're incredibly lucky that we're there and that we're in the sports world as a whole. Toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Sweet hats today, boys.

Thanks, man. Yeah, I just figured Rose Bowl is where it all started. Yeah, for Indiana. On that note, Indiana Hoosiers is not just national champions. Also, Rose Bowl champions and Peach Bowl champions. And I think they have the best record against top five teams or something or top 10 teams in the history of college football. Big 10 champions.

The Big 10 champions as well. I mean, they got all the bands. They literally got all the banners this year. So that's right. That is a good hat to kind of represent for the IU squad. Most wins without a loss versus AP top 10. There it is. This is the IU team getting in there, 2019 LSU.

That was a good team. We don't need to be comparing teams. All right. Let's just let everybody enjoy their run. I said last night on Game Day, you know, the newest person on Game Day. And I just looked around and said, just so matter-of-factly, wearing that blue jacket. I was like, tonight we might watch the greatest college football team in the history of college football play

and win a national championship for the first time ever. The amount of looks I got just, there was probably 14 different teams that popped into so many different heads there. But if they would have beat Miami by 30 or 40 points. Exactly. I mean, it would have been hard not to put that college football playoff resume up against any, like, what are you talking about? Who are we even talking about?

And then you go to the 2019 LSU team and you look at the final scores. I don't know how the games were. Because I think we were at the national championship, whenever they played Clemson. At halftime, I think it was a game. I think Joe Burrow maybe fractured a rib or something like that. So I think in the second half, I think I remember Joe hitting a couple deep ones down the right side,

and they end up turning that score around and winning by a lot. But I think it was close against Clemson at that point. But you look at the final scores of this 2019 LSU team, they would have certainly been like, okay, still, yeah, let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and still have that conversation. Nonetheless, Indiana, no five stars, no team three years ago. Now being talked about Mount Rushmore College football team, it's a beautiful thing that only sports can provide, honestly.

And it is a cool thing that we got to witness from the sidelines. Yeah, unbelievable. And kind of cool, just looking at that LSU team, Transfer Portal kind of made them too without Joe Burrow, without, and thinking about where the transfer portal is now in 2025 versus where it was in 2019. And then probably lost on there. It's like that Miami team.

2001? Bingo, yeah, that had all those. That'll never probably get thrown in that. list just because you just play one game and and I just think of them as 35 year old men exactly like even whenever they're playing yeah like I view them as that so I'm like how would the 35 year old team play against the 2019 LSU team or whatever I think it would be a dog fight well I think that's no transfer or either either baby well I mean we're not even we're not even bringing up the 19 or excuse me 1894 yield bulldogs yeah I mean before that they're unbelievable before the legal forward

pass I mean I think their point differential was like plus 2,500 you should seen him at rugby too nobody talks about it they were undefeating a rugby boom it wasn't just major college football it was 72 yeah 1894 I don't know I uh was that before I mean that's before the five-yard grids that's uh I mean that's before both world war Columbus was their quarterback Chris yeah he's a high school done in Miami yeah he's a hero in our house he left Yale actually and started that high school in Miami is good value yeah okay he's a hero in our house He had great high school down there in Miami. Jerry Shaybuthers here, D. Boucher.

A little colder than I expected in Miami. It's back to about years now. It's been chilly. Exactly. Both temperature, actually. I see you're wearing your Nike Tech right there. Yeah, it's very, very chilly out here to think. Is that my?

I have this. It is yours, actually. Thanks. Appreciate you. Get off a plane from Florida and hitting minus 10 last night. That'll smack you right in a month. Yeah, that's how you get off the bus in Florida. And it not being called.

That was a smack in the mouth. That was a tank top. I'm in Florida. Sunglasses. Miami. It's noon. Can't wait to get off this bus right now. Walk out.

Oh my God. It's a moist, chilly air that's blowing through there. This is not how Miami's supposed to be. It was good for football, though. That was a perfect atmosphere. It was a perfect football game. Wasn't too hot. Didn't feel like it was a resort football game.

Like a vacation football game. Did not feel like that at all. wasn't too cold that it was uncomfortable for anybody. It felt like it was a perfect football night. It genuinely did. I don't think the field, a couple people slipped, but I don't think it was too bad. Refs, obviously, there's a couple calls

where we're like, you didn't call, but you did call. I think that's going to happen any game. I don't think they made themselves the story of the game, which I respect. I think it was a great game. Yeah, it was. I think last night was a great football game too. Yeah, because they got the...

Last year we talked about it when it was Notre Dame and Penn State, we were like, that was really loud in there. And last night was very, very loud, because those overhangs keep in all the noise. Joining us now is a man who's kind of watched the dawn of a new day in the Big Ten three different times over the last three years. But this one might be a B turn to a C. This man might be a member of the SIG 10.

Ladies and gentlemen, he's an Ohio State Hall of Famer. He is former president of Ohio. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawa. Yay! Sig 10 champs win it all, baby. Three different Sig 10 teams win in three straight years.

That's good news, H. That's good news for all parties up there. Rising Tides. Yeah, of course, it's great news for the Big Ten for Indy. And then you guys hit it. Sorry, is my audio gone? Yeah, sounds like shit. Yeah, for a second or two there, but you're back.

Yeah, everything's going on me. I can't hear anything. But it was a storybook ending, like you said. Storybook C. We can't hear you. You're cutting out there. You're cutting out there. Hold on.

Let's see. How is it? pretty bad. I mean, I know what you're doing. I know you're just a bit now. You can probably hear me. I can't hear myself. I'm not sure who's just bottom with my audio.

Did I not sell it? I felt like I saw it good. No, because I know. I mean, my initial default is you're messing with me, but I still can't hear myself. I'm not really sure. Okay, so. I thought I sold it pretty good there.

Honestly, I thought I had him. I thought we had him for the first time. What, a couple years? Yeah, it's been a while. Oh, my God. He might be a little tired. Maybe we'll get him. Yeah.

I can't believe you sniff that. out so quick. I mean, that's unbelievable. It's pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious from your end when, you know, oh, yeah, you look good. Now, it was how you looked at the camera. That's what made me. Well, I was looking off camera. I was looking back, see if we can maybe, you know, do some button. Yeah, fake to figure the whole thing. Do some buttons. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was trying to do.

That's what I was selling. Obviously, I got work on that. Don't you worry. I'm going to get you good, fucker. I'm going to get you good. I'm going to get you someday. But you're about to tell a story, I think, about football as a whole, maybe, before your audio got throttled because the Indiana story is so fantastic. Yeah, I don't know if I was about to tell a story, but I think you definitely hit it. Like, it's a storybook season for them. But the fact, they go 16 and 0 when you know how difficult it is to do that. We say this every year we go to the college football playoffs. We're thinking, like, this is an absolute gauntlet to run the table and to win at all. It is such

a crazy, difficult thing to do after a long, regular season. So yeah, credit to Sig and the Indiana Hoosiers, I don't think they're slowing down anytime soon. The way they play, and you watch it, and obviously, I mean, Stan, standing in between AJ and D. Butt, especially whenever it gets down close to us, Debutt knew there was 12 men on the field for Miami before, way before Miami did. I mean, literally, as soon as they get lined up, Debut starts pointing at a guy, and then he starts doing the math. He's like, those two guys are definitely not supposed to be standing right there next to each other.

Somebody's got to notice this, and then time outcomes, and Dibu goes, I think there's 12 on the field. And obviously there was. Then A.J. starts like, you know, because he's viewing it as a lineback. So whenever it's down there, you literally see him moving things. What did Indiana do so well, you think? From the defensive perspective. Now, obviously, they get a pick to change at Carson Beck makes them play.

They give up the explosive run. I'm not saying negatively what happened to them, but what have you seen from us standing where we are standing, how this Bryant-Hane's led defense is so good. And so fundamentally sound is seemingly the only way I can describe it, but what does that mean, you think, from watching it yourself? Yeah, so like on the sidelines before the game, I saw Trent Green standing there, and I went up and talked to Trent

because I love him. He's a great dude. And I was telling him, like, I'm asking him about the game. game and how he thinks is going to go and all that. He loves Sig and everything they're doing, but I was telling him, I'm like, I'm like watching from the end zone, I'm like a football nerd when it comes to proper leverage and gap integrity and all of that stuff. And Indiana has that at all times. Like, hey, if you're supposed to be the outside piece, this dude is set in the edge. He's the outside piece. You got 10 dudes run inside out with proper angles. But the cool thing is, like they're coming with bad intentions. Like Debut says, they're trying to staple dudes to

the ground. They're having four, five, six guys hit the ball carrier every single time. Like, they're just relentless. And I think when you couple that with like the disguise that they're able to do pre-snap. And then what I like to is like when they're playing a lot of zone coverage, they have their eyes on the quarterback. They're breaking on the ball. Like nothing's easy against that Indiana defense. And credit to Miami because they were in it. They had a chance to do it. But Indiana, man, what a back and forth game. And for them to be able to come away victorious was, yeah, just the stamp on an absolute special season. Pick from the nephew of the Sharp who got the pass interference call for Miami

against your Ohio State team gets the game national championship ceiling interception from Carson Beck. Felt like this was just a miscommunication. The way Debutt described it, he says, Marion doesn't think he's getting his ball because he's all by himself over there. And they got three guys on that side of the field with a safety over top. There's no way I'm going to be the selection. Yeah, you can see it from this angle right here.

He just looks at that safety, knowing to have field safety, By the time he looks back, it's obviously too late. The ball's already in the air. I don't think he ever thought he was going to be the target in that progression. But yeah, like AJ said, that was a perfect example of just veteran players, smart players, zone coverage all the way. You don't have another threat in the flat holding you up there. Eyes on the quarterback.

And if he doesn't make a perfect throw, you make him pay for it and you end the game. So just a tremendous job. Everything AJ said, it was a handful of plays where when you're playing great players, they're going to make plays. Malacotone, he's going to make big plays. Mark Edwards, Jr. I mean, Mark Fletcher, Jr., the long run to the edge, the touchdown run. That was his big play.

But outside of that, they kept everything in front of them. They tackled well. And then that huge turnover, the block, too, by Kamara, who's the starter. We saw that happening in slow motion. It felt like right in front of us. Like, hold on, are they going to block this guy? And that was obviously a game-changing play as well. But, yeah, it was a back-and-forth game.

Miami fought, but Indiana was just the better team. And Kamara selling out on special teams, Charlie Becker, their wide receiver, rolls ankle on special teams. It's like whenever you start judging the culture, it's like, well, how do they go on plays that don't matter? You know, this could have easily just been fair catch. Let's go ahead and send us down.

Get our Hizman back on the field. Instead, tomorrow saw it as an opportunity. Duck ripped and then gets to the block point. Normally for punts, you go down, okay? You try to go down. He goes up and like through and it's one of the purest blocks I've seen. And then Isaiah

Jones able to jump on it. He dropped a pick like two plays before that. Now, granted, it would have been an insane pick, but he's also full effort to be back there. Like, the amount of effort you've got to get through your guy and then the shield to get to end zone that quickly, like that's full sellout by him as well, even though he didn't block it. It's like

everything seemingly was showcased about the Indiana culture last night in multiple different situations, the resiliency, the talent, the toughness, the football IQ, and here, the effort, like this is just strictly effort being made

by an incredibly talented player. And remember, rolled his ankle last week in the peach bowl bad. Yeah, he was off the thing. So it's like unbelievable in all three phases to watch them do their thing. And it kind of shows you like the depth they still don't have for Indiana. Like they still have their starting D-line on, you know, punt, like, or punt return, rather. Like, can you imagine when, you know, this is this time next year? And they have all these guys who are now going to Indiana.

Like, I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know they got basically, you know, half of the great. players in the transfer portal. You now wonder how many guys are going to end up, you know, joining or flipping commitments to IU. And then, you know, they might have four or five stars on their, you know, punt and punt return. And that was kind of the last two years, the big difference, especially when they played Ohio State and Caleb Downs had that punt return.

Yeah, numbers wise, the first year, they brought in 31 transfers. 13 of them were from JMU. And then coming into this season, they had 23 guys from the transfer portal from last season. And then this transfer portal period here, the last few weeks, they only brought in 17 this year. So it's like, hey, we needed to flip it.

We did. We're going to bring in less every single year. They're getting better recruits now, things like that. So, yeah, it's kind of like they have their guys there now so they don't have to go shopping per se as much in the portal. Yeah, and Coach Saban brought this up on game date. He said he was impressed by the fact that Signetti was able to turn Indiana into a place where he's now going to have to change the way he motivates.

So for a long time, you know, we're misfits, we were replaced, kicked out, whatever the case at our old school. We want to come here and prove something. Indiana's never done it. We'd like to come here and prove something together. Now it's like everybody's coming there for like, what can Indiana do for me? Like how is that whole thing?

So the way Sig is going to have to evolve in his messaging, I think he'll be able to figure out. He seemingly has a great sense of what needs to be said, when it needs to be said. We can air this out now. We got a chance to talk to Sig before we called the Rose Bowl. And after the Heisman ceremony, there's a little bit of something they had to push back a meeting or something because of weather or something like that. And he said, I laid into them real good.

It was the meanest I've ever been to these guys. Is that not basically word for word what he said? I forget how he laid it out. Yeah, I think he said something to the effect of like, and I got in their ass worse than I ever have. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, everyone told them how good they are I, the coming real quick. And, yeah, I was mean to him, real mean. He said a Heisman winner.

They're celebrating a high spin. and these guys getting smoke blown up their ass by literally everyone. He said, I was the meanest I've ever been to him. And you can tell, like, he didn't want to be, right? He really likes the crew. But it's like he has a great sense for what's needed when. And we talk about those timeouts. We have multiple videos.

Bruce, great job with all the videos. Foxy, Bill, with the photos. I mean, Foss getting all the bullshit. I mean, thank you to everybody that goes into the entire field. Ben Ward, Dish, you know, Miss Sarah Hare, the camera crews. Like, there's so many people that are awesome during those. field passes, we appreciate. But it's like, when you think about, like,

I don't know, Cignetti's just such a special individual, man. Oh, yeah. Because whenever you watch him, you have no idea what he's doing at any time. You have no idea what he's doing at any time. There's so many memes coming out, like the guy that said when I'm 260 out or something

and I'm telling the green, when I'm telling him clear the green, you know, because I'm going for it. I skull 120 yards. It's like, it fits perfectly. But what is he actually doing in that moment? You know, like, well, he's looking for a lion scrimmage. is he?

Because that's not where the ball was. He might have been just looking at some deep tackle that he thought, oh, there's a little bit of negative energy coming out of that guy. We got to start attacking that guy. You never know what he's doing. When the timeouts are happening,

you talk about him empowering his coaches to do the coaching. It's like he's standing outside of that thing like this, looking away from his huddle to seemingly anything. Not necessarily the other team, not necessarily the refs,

not necessarily his crowd, not necessarily their crowd. I have no idea. know what he's doing. We still don't necessarily know what he's doing. But coming out of one of those, he made a decision, we're not kicking a field goal. We're going for this thing, you know? And we've got to change the way we're doing this right now. They get an interception. It's like, feels like his mind is just always cooking for like, what do we need right now? How do we go about doing this? And he's always in character, because I think that's just who he is. He was put on his earth to be this, I think.

So, like, I'm excited to watch him navigate all these new steps. More donor money than ever. Now Cody Campbell at Texas Tech, they're going to have more than everybody. Oregon, going to have a lot. Texas. Texas, other Texas in Texas. I think the school's in Texas. A&M, Texas, Tech. They've got a lot of football people

who have access to a lot of money. But Indiana, not like that yet. I think a lot of, and Kurtzignetti came out and said that, like, a lot of people think we're a lot different than we are in the NIL because we've done so well. But the reason why he's had to hit on everybody is because he's been able to make use

of all the money that he's been given. That money is only going to amplify. That money is only going to go up. And it's like he's going to just keep it. I'm very excited for this run that he has because I know he's older, but he still has a lot of time to build an incredible legacy as a college football head coach. Yeah, no disrespect to, you know, Joey McGuire or Elko or any of those guys because they're fantastic coaches. But if Indiana is in the same, just like ballpark, like not, not, you know,

saying they have as much money as Texas Tech or anything like that. They, and they clearly do. Like, they have resources. They have people who now are going to want to continue, continue to give money to the program. He's the best coach in America. Like, and this might be recency bias because we've been, you know, following them.

Obviously, we live in Indiana. I'm a big 10 graduate. So, like, I'm very aware of what they're doing weekend and week out. I don't think it's particularly close. I really don't. Like, you look, it's just, it's still, we watch this whole thing. you kind of saw it coming. We were saying going into the game, like,

I feel like Indiana is going to win by four touchdowns. But even after the game, it's just like, holy shit. Like this guy actually did this. And shout out to Miami, by the way. Yes. Once again, fight, fight, fight. Absolutely. Because we watched them make people quit.

Right. Because it was just annoying. Everything was annoying. Their defense is annoying. Every single snap, your technique has to be perfect. Or they're going to make you quit. They made Alabama quit. Yeah.

They made Oregon think about not playing football anymore. Like, that is how relentless they were as a team with what they were. So it was like, is that going to happen to Miami? It's like, maybe. We, maybe. And then Miami just didn't, they just continued to battle. And I think it's because the studs they had. I mean, Bain and Mesidor.

I don't think they- Rementless. Those guys are unbelievable. We've got to see all their playoffs football playoffs games, watching them the dip and rip and the power that they have on the edge. Like, that has to put so much fear in every single offensive coordinator. Like, all right, how do we handle these? these guys.

And Moten? Moten in the middle, 99. Yeah. Corre, are you kidding me? Like, everybody on that defense hits. They all hit. Toray had a pass breakup, I think, if my memory serves me right, it's like they have dogs down there across the board.

Now, Kobe Thomas, of course. Mezzadort Jacobi. I mean, this is clearly a, I don't know. Cignetti says the Holy Road going in a halftime. They got three personal foul hits against our quarterback in one drive. I know they're going to let them play, but at some point, you got a, these are black and white penalties at this point. Like, I can't do that.

Like, let them play. I get it, but that is not, I saw a lot in football. So, like, you've got to figure that out. Big 12 refs did let them play. Yeah. Did let them play. And we knew that was good for Miami.

Because there was three possible ejections at the first half from Miami. But instead it was, let's go football, boys. Yeah, get up. Vendozo spitting blood last night. Big time. Oh, yeah. Bruised arms, spitting blood.

The dog. Who knows what happened. internal organs during this one because he gets hit like three times through the entirety. And he's at 11 with the boys. I'm telling you, I think he's generational too. Probably had a good time. I assume so. Oh, yeah.

This next step, though, for the program, obviously for Coach Sig, is like the cliche we always hear. Usually for players, hey, how do you handle success? Like, how do you handle this new level of success? How do you handle now being that destination, handle the team with the target on their back, as opposed to, you know, the team that, okay, it's a great. story. They've got something special growing in Bloomington, but now actually being a powerhouse going into the

sea. What's their odds next year, Tom, going into the next season? They are co-favorites to win the National Championship at Plus 700 with the Ohio State Buckeyes. The Indiana Hoosiers. The Indiana Hoosiers. Like, how do you handle that? So, I mean, we all think, I think, as well, because Ty said it, and

we're all on the same page where SIG is doing the best job, the best coaching job we've seen in America in college sports. And usually you judge a coach based on what they do with the level of talent that they have. And it's the level of talent. Obviously, he has his own evaluation process, which is unbelievable. But from the outside, looking in from the 30,000 foot view, you say, okay, five star, he's six, four, two, ten, he runs a four three, he's six, five, three, twenty, he can bench, press 500 pounds. Like, so you know these

guys are going to be the five and the four stars, you got more of those. So if you got a coach with no five stars, and it's been said a thousand times, then to go out there and have a 16 and old seasons to step up to the challenge every time, every step along the way. It's going to be unbelievable to see how this continues to grow. Last thing here about Coach Sigg in this particular conversation, he called his shot. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, I'm super fired up about this opportunity.

I mean, you talk about that moment. And then his quote at his press conferences, there is no reason why we can't be successful. Packed the stadium and be a source of pride to the entire university in town and state of Indie. town of Bloomington, state of Indiana. Let me clarify that, he said, in this thing. We're going to change the culture, the mindset, the expectation level, and improve the brand

of Indiana Hoosier Football. There will be no self-imposed limitations on what we can accomplish. My business averages the enemy. And to be great, you've got to have special focus, special commitment, special preparation, and discipline in the ability to say no to some things. I'm a little old-fashioned. I'll look at the high school transcript and see how many apps. a guy has. We want good students who have strong habits because it's all about choices and decisions.

I've never really looked at stars ever, honestly. It's kind of like I get so focused in on certain things, like in this particular case evaluation. I guess these stars have been around for a long time. I've never, ever looked at a star. There's going to be people in this conference that probably have more resources than we do, but that's not detrimental. You've got to take the right kind of guys. You've got to develop them and form the intangibles on your football team. That was Coach Sigg during his opening press conference a little under two years ago. Ty Schmidt, you said it on the plane. That might be the greatest called shot in sports history.

Babe Ruth, I guess, right? But I don't know if we witnessed that in real time and this many hundreds of millions probably pour into a place because of it. No, I mean, I think Babe Ruth, you know, even as a Yankees fan, like that's largely bullshit. That's kind of been, you know, made into something much more than what it probably actually was. Yeah, I know I hate to bring guys' hearts, but I think that might be the case. I think that might be a load of horseshit. He probably did something in that ballpark. But that's the thing with Sig, too.

It's like not only having the nuts to do that, but he's not, he wasn't even going to a program that, like, had success in the 80s and hadn't been good for 10 years so people could actually maybe see it in their mind's eye. You know, like, oh, yeah, we were great in the, like a Nebraska or something like that. you know, who won all these national championships in the mid-90s to the late 90s and then have been dormant for a while. And then, you know, it's like, hey, we're going to get back to where we were. Indiana's never been worth a fuck, ever.

They have sucked since the early 1900, since they've been around. And in this day and age, like, we know how that goes. If he comes in and says all that stuff at that basketball game, and they go two and ten, his first year, the memes, everyone on every TV show, radio show, this guy's a dipshit. Like, what is this guy? His accent to.

Exactly. He's getting, he's getting killed and buried before he ever has a chance to do anything. And yeah, they won the national championship this year. It took him one year to turn it around. It took him one year. Like, it's just, it's insane. And, yeah, I don't, like, you know,

now it's going to be, hey, how do you, like, you're talking about the, the experiments to, like, the, you know, all that, to find out. how Sig has done this. Like, this guy is one of one. There's no one like him. I think that's pretty clear. Like, just, no one else would have done that.

And then actually, two years later, here we are. They just went 16 and 0, and they won a national championship. I appreciate that he chose, I'm going to go talk some shit out here. Yeah. Like, nobody ever does. Everybody does the, what's the right thing to say? We're going to work hard. We're going to represent IU in a way that's going to make you all proud.

Co-speak. And whenever we come out, we're going to have the Hoosiers faithful behind us. You're the best students and the best fans in the entire country. And we're going to try to earn your fanhood. Thank you so much. Like that is, I think I just wrote a script for somebody that just got hired to doing the basketball thing right there. Or I read it.

I apologize there for doing that. Him just getting a sense. Once again, this is him getting like having an incredible feel for like what needs to be done at a time in this particular world. I don't know how he'd be with computers. I have no idea and all this stuff. But in this particular world, feels like he has like an actual sixth sense where he's like this is what needs to happen right now

we got who do we hate the most who do we hate the most out here oh everybody yeah yeah okay got it thank you actually you know what fuck them all we hate everybody that right yeah okay that's where we're color okay okay sweet sweet sweet sweet so we hate is who we hate yeah okay if i lose them you know where we're headed yeah Purdue sucks and everybody yeah it's like all right I kind of like that a little bit and I'm I was telling them, yeah, Michigan sucks too. So is a high state. Go on you.

It's like choosing that angle is awesome. Yeah. Like it is awesome. But putting that much public pressure on yourself almost forces you to have to show up and do it if you're a type of person as opposed to just a troll. So I think like Sig was doing that to not only get his own people to buy in, but also like, all right, now, what are you going to do, big boy? Like, what are you going to do the whole world?

And all he did was work his ass off. could have sucked too and nobody would have cared everybody would expect it oh yeah whatever it would have been it would have been a story where where in the sunbelt where would he have headed to back to you know because he was a jm u this would be a uh who went down there to uh florida where was he at louisiana monroe oh bill napier they pier yeah just goes back to jm u i think he's a jmue he is he is yeah so that would be the signetti beth you remember the uh pittsburgh ginser asshole accent guy yeah good try fucking sucked in the big ten pretty terrible yeah yeah We just got him back down here, Louisiana and the road.

He'll be unbelievable. Like, that's what it would have been. We've seen it a thousand times, not talking shit to everybody, but like just going up there, doing the bullshit speech, sucking up there, then going back down. Hey, he's a good ball coach where he's supposed to be, you know? And it's like him. Man, what a story.

Michigan wins it. Ohio State wins it. And then he goes out and wins it. And then the, I don't know if you saw it. You probably did see the, in that same gym in the same assembly hall, right? and they had your video up there playing with the watch party, that was pretty sick, too. Hey, that was sick.

You flash forward from that moment to that moment with them all being in that same gym watching. That's pretty dope. Yeah, and also, if you think about what that stadium was, his first day, they filled this assembly hall up, let alone Herbtship was getting numbers. He was saying him on the show, so it felt like he got it from very good authority.

Yeah, you could turn us up. He's pretty sick, actually. Thank you for something this video. There was so many time for us and that obviously when you talk about President Ben Witten in Indiana, they're all in the police. And my team's are very kind to be, very nice to me, and I don't know if I get anybody. And I'm calling to get me. Hey, I know what's a big deal around here.

That's sick though. That all was built in the last two years, you know? And all you need is just a little spark, man. Yeah. He feels like that's all you need is just like a little spark. And then whenever you catch it, it can run. And it feels like they've captured. it down there in Bloomington and it's been fun to be a part of the ride.

I mean, we knew, obviously we knew Sig from JMU when he came on our show and said, the NCAA sucks. We like that guy's awesome. Yes, this guy's from Pittsburgh, played football at West Virginia. It's like, all right, I immediately are. Pyes on. I immediately love you. And then just getting right up on that stage, do we like the NCAA to 20,000 people?

No! Just looks at the camera. They're the ones in charge right now at that point. It's like, we love you, dude. You are not like anything we've ever seen before. And then he gets hired at Indiana and hour south of where we're at. And it's like one of the first texts, I assume, that he sends is like, can't wait to get to Indiana for us to see you boys or something like, yeah.

You need to come down in the house. It's like immediately, it's like, holy hell, what a lucky ride we've got to witness. Our South. Who can come to do that for us for Colts? If they could do it for, who? Oh, okay. Two year turn around. You've been a Super Bowl.

You like your guys. You don't exist. It's possible, right? Give Sig a $100 million a year. Yeah. He's a college guy. Who's doing that? Do you talk about the Colts right now?

Yeah. Hey, you want to win a Super Bowl? Pony up. How much of the Colts worth? Yeah, 10% of the team. Billions and billions of dollars. Give Sig a, you know, seven years, $700 million. That's probably getting to do.

And then let him do whatever he wants to do. My shit says I. He needs the money. And he can stay in Bloomington. he can come up like twice a week he's got a great house he can do both games he can both do both teams

he got a putting green yeah exactly I heard he they just because he won an adie new addition yeah he's got amen corner down there now he's put in a new grotto a beautiful a beautiful rock structure

in the pool the wine cellar oh down there I mean I'm telling you Bloomington the things he can buy down there with the money he's getting paid and how everybody loves him he's a statue now forever

Yes, no doubt. He's a statue guy in that town forever. It's like that... They should commission that today. He might be able to get... Like, if he really wanted to, he could get that... Every building in that shot right there could potentially be named Signa. That's awesome.

Colois-Zon Kirkwood brought you by Kurt Signetty in that town. It's like his family too, his wife. She is like beloved by everybody down there. It's like he has quickly become, I guess like Sabin is in Alabama. SIG is in Bloomington, which is why he said, I'm not NFL guy. I'm a college football guy. And I was asked by Dr. Pam Whittner, President, if I wanted to go look at any of these other jobs.

I said, no. They said, you want a new deal? Sure. Talks to a lawyer. I come on your show, Pat. And I sign it the next day. I'm here for another nine years. And I guess in the negotiation, they're going to pay me what everybody else is getting paid forever. That's a collater.

If I win at all, I get even more money. Yeah, they told me win more games, get more money. You got it. I need another putting green. Mm-hmm. me and a couple cold tubs. It's a new Pac-Man machine. I'd like to put my game room.

Throwback. A little nostalgia piece. I've got a room for all my cured meats, too. What if he gets a cruising USA? That'd be sick. Oh, boy. That would be amazing. That would be absolutely amazing.

Imagine playing him in cruising USA. You and him are head-in-head. Paint. Oh, so much. Backflips. I'm getting a little bit of a meteor car for that particular match, because he is going to try. Oh, yeah. You can't be doing a sports car or a motorcycle for that.

No. He might be anticipating that, though. Oh, he thinks I'm going to. Do you think he's double hitting that thing flipping every? Yes. Every time. Watch this. Watch this.

Hitting all the animals. Short cuts. Yeah. Yeah. Knows all. Short cuts. Where are you going through the bushes? Ha-ha.

Don't worry. This is your first time. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. He's a man who would tell us a little bit more about this coach's life and kind of how the coaches are kind of viewing what Signetti has been able to do. A man who coach football for 47 years, ladies and gentlemen, our friend, Coach Bea. Yay, Bea. Coach, you heard us do a lot of convo about Coach Signetti.

What are your thoughts on what he's been able to do? Football is non-existent, I mean, non-existent in Bloomington for so long, not even a shred of hope. And now they're the national champs. Not only do they fill up every stadium they play through the college football playoff, they're also filling up their basketball arena just to watch along. It's a special thing what football can do, but he's been able to accomplish it. What are your thoughts on him, B.A.

and why do you think he is who he is? Yeah, I think it's a fantastic job. I mean, what SIG has done there in two years is just amazing. And I love it because he stayed true to himself. He didn't change, you know. He didn't move and change who he was because they went to Indiana from James Madison. He just stayed himself. And that's good enough to win a national championship.

And, boy, they did it in great fashion. I don't know who's putting all the stars on these players, but they need to talk to Kurt and let him fuck your figure it out. The Signetti College rating that will probably happen, you know, once he's done is certainly around the corner. BA needs to get a little bit of credit for that. Let's talk about the quarterback that, you know, transforms into the number one overall pick.

652.30, we've told you about him. Dan Rolovsky has mentioned, I think a lot of NFL people have said, like, I haven't really watched the film on this guy throughout the entirety of the season. That becomes like during the draft process. Right now we got NFL stuff going on. Like we don't really know everything about a guy until maybe around Combine or as we're looking as him as the number one overall pick. We think what people are going to see they're going to like.

We think he's tough. We think he loves ball. We think he's a nerd. So you know he's probably not going to get any trouble. He has beers with the boys. He's dialed and committed and can make every throw. It's like I have a lot of faith in the 6-5-230 pounder. Did you see anything through this college football playoff run?

or is there anything that you would like to see from a quarterback who does a lot of RPO's, but he's going to be the number one overall pick coming up here in the draft? No, I love everything about him. You know, for me, it always starts with a deep ball. And he is as accurate as anybody down the field with the back shoulder throws and putting it down the field.

He's got a great touch. I mean, he's got all the measurables. Obviously, he's very, very bright. Yeah, to me, he's the can't miss guy. He just got to get to a team that has some fashion of an offensive line, so they don't get killed. Now, on that note, Tom Brady was there last night, Mark Davis was there, SpyTech was there.

If Tom Brady's going to be more a part of the entire ownership process, which we don't know. I think he has a house in Miami. I don't know. I don't follow all the tabloids. I assume he does. He's Tom Brady. He's got to be loving life, though.

No doubt. Oh, my God. He's wearing his glasses everywhere. He's got a big boat probably. He looks so cool all the time. Yeah. Good for you, Tom. Hey, good for you.

A little bit Tomo. Hey, Tomo. Florida Tomo is certainly great. But if he's going to be a part of it all and, you know, a part of the entire assessment of how they need to become a good football team a little bit more, we would assume he knows he needs an offensive line, right? Wouldn't that be something that Tom Brady would know? And if you see what the Chicago Bears were able to do in one offseason,

whenever Ben Johnson got there, spent some money on the right pieces. Once again, getting the right pieces is obviously a big piece of that. You think that Raiders team has to invest in an offensive line, right? Don't we think that's probably step number one if you have the number one overall pick and you're getting a quarterback. Don't you need that? Totally. Yeah. I'm getting two tackles in the center for sure.

And, you know, they got enough cap room. I've been in the room with John Spitech, great evaluator, especially on the pro side. And, yeah, I think the Raiders could be a quick fix in the AFC West. I love Fernando. I like that he loves ball. He's a Florida boy, too. I mean, he is a mile from my auntie. He's in Miami.

Yeah. You know, him and Mark Fletcher afterwards, I assume they had, you know, growing up, the Miami football scene, what everybody down there knows who's going to make in the NFL of like seventh grade, right? Oh, everybody's, you know, 7-07 teams, parks, one-on-one, so Fernando, all these guys, especially the skill players, all the skill players you see each other. You can go out there, me year-round, you know, football season is year-round down there. Pretty good shit-talking community down there?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so Fernando is going to be able to deal with it all. You know, like, I just think he is, I'm very excited. to see what he does in the NFL. AJ has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, getting back to the Indiana team and what Coach Signetti is doing. We talked earlier about handling success.

Like, what is that? How, why is that so difficult to do? I had a great coach Dom Capers told us day one of her install. Hey, guys, I know how you handle, like, adversity and everything. I want to know how we handle success because we're going to win a lot of football games around here. And I need to be, you guys like stay dialed and stay focused. Like, why is it so difficult once you have reached that mountain top to stay there? Yeah, I think complacency sets it a little bit,

but I don't think Csig's going to let complacency sit in. The nice thing about college football is you've got a new roster every year, so the message doesn't get stale. In the NFL sometimes, fifth or six year, if you got all those guys coming back, the message can get a little stale, especially if you haven't reached the top. If you're getting close, close, close,

we've seen all these coaches get fired because they got close. I don't know who the hell is going to take their place. But, yeah, I don't see that message getting stale in the Anna. Signetti, whenever you're talking, about football greats in coaching, him saying I'm a college guy and not going to NFL. Do you like that or hate that? Or how do you kind of view that? I love it because he knows who he is. He knows where he fits. A lot of guys have tried it, you know, all the way back to Lou Holtz and it didn't work out. You know, I was one of those

guys. I was fortunate. The program did figure out for me after college. But, you know, I think everybody's got to know where their fit is. And I think, you know, when you talk to coach, saving, you know, those two years of Miami taught him, I should have stayed at LSU. Well, he has some ideas on maybe some decisions that should have been made. And if they would have been made in a certain fashion, maybe it would be okay. Him and Bill. Drew Brees. Yep, yep.

That is exactly the conversation that I've heard a couple different times. All right. Well, now, how do you think it goes if, and then he talks about everything that potential ripple effects after that? He goes, no, hey, what, yep, okay. but how do we, you know, it's funny, listen to him talking about it. Last night, him and Belichick wanted to celebrate

what they did up there in Cleveland together. That was a good moment. Coach Saban was like, Bill, you've done a lot of great things, but nobody talks about the job we did in Cleveland. They were very bad, and they got better because we were there. And it was just like, you know what, you're right, you two. Nobody ever talks about how good of coaches you guys are.

Nobody ever talks about how good of coaches you guys are. And so I'm going to make sure people remember what you guys did for Cleveland Browns. And it's crazy to think that, though. Like, hey, coming up these ranks, who's going to be the next one? You know, BA, 47 years of coaching you're in college. Then you get into the NFL, and it's like you become the quarterback whisper. We have no idea who's next.

On that note, go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, BA, we're hearing a lot of guys like Nate Sheelhaus, who's the passing game coordinator for the Rams or, you know, Clint Kubiak, or, you know, Grant Udinski, who is the OC for Jacksonville, obviously didn't call plays. if you are a GM or an owner, how would you feel about giving a guy, like one of these guys who's 30 or 35 years old, the opportunity to be a first time head coach when they haven't called plays? And you look at a couple of these situations, like two of them have elite quarterbacks.

You know, the Raiders have the number one overall pick. Like, where do you lean when it comes to these guys who are unproven? But there's a lot of kind of smoke and fire behind their names right now. Yeah, you have the deep dive because are they really doing, are they in front of the room putting it in, or is the offensive coordinator putting it in? If they haven't called plays and all of a sudden you're going to be a head coach play caller, that's a lot for somebody. I mean, that's just a hell of a big jump. And very, very few guys have been successful at it. Now, if you're going to hire a young guy and he's going to hire an offensive coordinator to be in front of the room all the time and put it in and call the plays, that's a different story.

and you're just going to oversee it. But, yeah, I'm not a fan. I see 10 head coaching jobs up. I don't know who the hell's going to get them. Yeah, there's interesting. Gassala gets a job down in Tennessee. Halfley gets the job down in Miami. Stefansky gets a job in Atlanta.

And then obviously, Harbaugh is a New York football giants, head coach. He said that like four times today in his press conference, right? Bruce, I felt like that was something he was hammering home. Hell, yeah. And he also said, if you don't love football, get the hell out. out of here. You're going to need to love football to be a New York football giant. BA, you've coached from multiple places at later stages of your career where everybody knows exactly who you are. I mean, you go into Tampa is a perfect example with that. What do you

think Harbaugh is going through right now as a New York Football Giants head coach? And there was a couple days there where it was like a deal's reach, Wade, it isn't. And then there was conversation about who reports to what. Let's go ahead and just act like all that is kosher and everything's good. He's going to be reporting directly to ownership. He's John Harbaugh. He's earned it. You guys are the Giants. You're looking for another head coach. So let's see, do we really want to, how do we want to kind of go about doing this whole thing? So let's just get past that if that's what was happening.

Or if he just fell asleep and lost the docu-sign, whatever it is, let's just get past it all. What do you think Harbaugh going in there trying to establish his culture as already a made man, if that makes sense, B.A., which is something you kind of did down there in Tampa. What do you think that process is like for him? I think it's a very easy one because he brings the credibility. You know, the players are always looking for credibility, and John brings it automatically with his record. And, but that's a heck of a good young football team.

I think the Giants is a sleeping giant for a job to departing upon. But the young guys they have on defense, you know, Jackson, Darts, Cattaboo, all those guys on offense. They got a decent offensive lines. So I think that could be an easy, easy turnaround, especially with John's pedigree. Okay, so let's talk about getting these gigs. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, we hear all these guys being brought in.

Like, teams are bringing in 7, 8, 9, 10 interviews, and, you know, they're virtual at first, and then they're in person. What is the interview process like? Like, what is the difference between, what do you talk about in the virtual ones? And then when you go into the in-person ones, like, how deep into the weeds are they asking you to get and stuff like that? Yeah, I mean, most of it is about, you know, who you're hiring, who you're bringing with you. What's your plan? You know, everybody asks you, some people ask you a philosophy.

If you've got philosophy, you're full of shit. You've got to have a plan. And let's show what the plan is. I think that's what Sig did such a great job. He had a plan when he went in there. And he followed it and it worked. But yeah, I mean, I never did a virtual one. So I can't really speak on that one.

But in the interview process with the owner, it's all about your plan, how you're going to do it daily, what your expectations are, what his expectations are, and your staff. I think staff is always huge when you're talking to the owner and the GM. Philosophy is for LinkedIn, brother. We're out here in execution town. I want to hear a plan.

You know, that is a beautiful bar from you. Philosophy is not what we're in need here, okay? Anybody can do theories on what football should be. Well, our quarterback's going to be our hardest worker. And he's going to be a great leader, and we're going to have the best nutritionist and our strength coach second and none. Actually going to redefine what sports physiology is actually about. And that's the type of kind of building I'm bringing in here.

And offense coordinator, you see this guy. It's a mix of Shanahan and McFey. This guy, he's always got a good feeling. Guess what? He's Ben Johnson, too. It's like people that operate in theories and, like, how they think it should be, are the worst humans on Earth because they just refuse to believe reality. So I appreciate that some of these owners probably ask for a plan,

but I know there's some of these dipshits out there that just get sold what I just said. For sure. Give me that. Yeah. Did you hear this guy's got McVeigh and Shannon? same guy definitely we need that now there's another guy getting back into the conversation especially in a good spot go ahead con man yeah b a eric bennamy going back to kansas city to be the oc there i see a lot of people from kansas city pretty happy about this actually they're kind of

saying you know hey b enemy brings that edge kind of that fire that kc's been missing um how do you feel about this higher and what does bianemy bring to the table that maybe some of us don't know just because from the outside looking in and say this is a placeholder, you know, coaching position because in the end, whatever Mahomes says goes and whatever Andy Reid says goes. So what does BNemi bring? Would you say that, you know, maybe the layman doesn't understand, especially in that building? Yeah, I think you said a passion, energy. E.B. He's one of those really fiery guys.

But again, don't get lost in the title because he's not running the show. Andy's running the show. And he brings a lot of energy and passion to it. You know, they obviously were very, very good when he was there. But it's not like they're going to change the offense in any way. So you kind of say, hey, to the people that are asking, like, hey, is this not just a placeholder position here? What are we doing here? Andy Reid's running the entire show.

You said, yeah, you should think that way. But the energy, the vibes, the passion, the execution, the week to week, day to day, I assume can be different than how Nate. would do it. He's in the head coaching conversation. Yeah. Where? Well, Tennessee apparently was hot the trot, so that spot is big bill. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, now that he's in head coaching

mixes, we've got to move on as well. Like that is a... Yeah, it seemed almost like a mutual like, hey, you kind of stunk as our O.C. So let's get you out here. But then we can kind of get the PR machine behind you and we'll say, hey, you got four or five head coaching interviews as well.

Yeah, and we don't know what's real. What is it? especially at this point, every agent could be angling and every team could be talking to anybody. You have no idea who's going to get hired at any point, so it's all certainly believable. But, yeah, I guess we'll see Nagy get a job. Maybe. O.C. somewhere or in Buffalo, I can see him in Buffalo. Cleveland. A lot of jobs out there.

Well, the chiefs are going to make a change, I guess, because they have not been playing in the playoffs. And we have certainly missed them, but ball has been fantastic. The weather has shown up a couple of different times. Go ahead, Dee, bud. Yeah, weather is kind of always going to show up this time of the year in the NFL with the playoffs. What was your big thing? It won't be as big of deal this weekend as it was last weekend, but what was your big thing with quarterbacking in elements and what was kind of the separated with the quarterbacks that could succeed on that level? Like Matt Stafford,

going from L.A., playing his first game, I think that was below 20 degrees and him getting it done on the road in Chicago. What has separated the great quarterbacks over time in this point of year? I think the guys that can really spin it. When you look at that Chicago weather, you know, Caleb didn't have any problem. Matthew didn't, especially in that first drive, he was on fire. The guys that can really spin it to weather doesn't bother that much. It's the guys who are anticipation throwers with a little less arm strength where the wind, the wind is a factor. It's never the rain. It's always the wind. And, you know, those guys, I don't think the weather in Seattle is going to bother either Sam Darner or Matthew Stafford.

So, yeah, I think it does bother some. I was surprised Brock Purdy did such a good job in Philly, but now that to me is overblown sometimes with these veteran quarterbacks because they're all playing on the same field. And unless there's a foot of snow on the ground or just pouring down rain, which you hate to see in playoff games. Yeah, all four, you know, every game outdoors, you know, is a stat that came back for the first time in a few amount of years or whatever. Yeah, first time since 2002 postseason where they're guaranteed

and every NFL playoff game will be played in outdoor stadiums. Wow, we're getting to weather. That Houston, New England game was insane. Sleading for what, seven hours up there? Is that happen on a regular basis? That's the worst. Freezing, rain, snow, mix.

That's the worst you could have. Wind, sorry. Freezing, windy, rain, snow mix. It was relentless. Six, seven hours straight of that shit. I mean, it was the pre-game. It was during the game. It was after the game. That felt, is that normal?

Yeah, very normal. I mean, for New England people, that's right where you want to be. You know, you don't have to shovel, but you still get the experience of winter. A wintry mix in New England. I mean, there's probably people with their mouths open the whole entire time to the sky, not to the ground, AJ, you son of a bitch. But, yeah, in New England, that is a very normal type of sleet. You would hope that you just don't see any of any weather whatsoever for Sam Fran.

That's my biggest worry with that sewer bowl. If that thing is a sloppy rain fest, which I don't anticipate it to be, but you would just hope that that doesn't add. We don't know what Donardo is saying. All right, let's get to a couple BS or no BSs with BA, shall we? Ladies and gentlemen, the first one. We will say a statement of fact. BA will tell us if it's BS or no BS.

Denver has Sean Payton. The Seahawks defense is great. New England is a wagon. But the L.A. Rams will be the Cs. Super Bowl champions. Is that BS or no BS, BA? That's no BS, brother. Whoa! Super Bowl prediction! January 20th, okay.

I've been a part of two wildcard teams that got on a roll. And once you get on that roll, the noise doesn't bother you anymore. You've got that invincibility feeling about you. And I think the Rams, you know, with Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford, plus that defense. I think that defense is the one that can get in Sam Darry. Arnold's head. And that Sam's been playing great. And Seattle's a hard, hard place to go play. But the Rams have been there and done it. And I just see them doing it. And I think they'll beat whoever comes out of the AFC. Matthew Stafford, MVP and a Super Bowl.

Wow. The NFC is favored over the AFC no matter what the matchup is. Yes. You know, the NFC West is favored over the AFC, no matter what the matchup is on draft Kings as it predicts the future. Harder, the second one here, BS or no BS with Bea. Go ahead. DeBunt. not being a Super Bowl this year, but here is the quote, firing Sean McDermott was not the right move in Buffalo. He will get another job very quickly. Is that BS or no BS, B.A?

I think that's no BS. This one baffles me. How Brandon Bean got elevated and Sean McDonoughby got fired, that just blows my mind because they didn't have any down players. I mean, the guys were the best coaches in the league. And the great leader of men, he's taking that team to the, as close as you can get, couldn't beat my home. he didn't throw any damn interceptions

and the referees screwed him bad and he gets fired and I mean come come on man and Brandon B gets a fucking raise I don't get that one that one blows my mind his record is outstanding nine years eight playoff appearances

five AFC East titles it's like with what Harbaugh was getting immediately upon being let go from Baltimore and what people were saying about Tomlin as well it's like McDermott's going to get a lot of Stephansky immediately getting high is weird to me. I don't know.

That's weird to me. I don't think I fully understand it, but they got a plan. Okay, let's get to a couple game balls before we get out of here. AFC, NFC game ball is one player per side. B.A., who do you got for the AFC? Jaylid McMillan, you know, game winning interception. The guy came up big. I don't know if it was an interception, but he made the play and won the game for him.

DeKwan McMahon makes a huge play. Okay. The NFC, who got it, B.A? Cam Curl, same thing. Not a big time interception. Got to go with the defense. Hell yeah. They beat the offensive guy.

Love that. We love that, coach. We'll talk to you next week. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Coach B.A. Yeah, B.A. That's no BS there, AJ, with B.A. He's straight shooting right, yeah.

That's no Bias. I'm fired today. He was. Always is, baby. So Bean gets a promotion. That sounds like BS to B. Yeah. Amen.

This guy gets fired. He got no players. What do he do it? I love that out of the BA. Respect to him. 47 years as a football coach. He knows a thing or two. And I think he knows that Cignetti might be something special.

We're incredibly lucky to be able to do this. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. The Hoosiers are national champs. Goodbye. One more time, I'd say it. Yeah.

Unbelievable. In football. Truly. How's our basketball team doing? DeVries. You know, I'll tell you what, it's a really good time. for the football team.

Because no one gives a shit about the basketball team. Foxy just did a big thumbs down down there like he knows. Yeah, they're not very good because Ty just told me the Iowa Hawkeyes kicked their ass. And then I think it was last week to Michigan State Spartans kicked their ass. So I'm just going off that alone. They beat a lot of rum dums earlier in the season, which is a good move. You know, you put a bunch of cupcakes on the schedule, beat the fucking shit out of them. But yeah, I mean, the Hawks, you know, who actually had, were on a bit of a Schneider.

They went into Bloomington and beat the fucking shit out of Indiana. Michigan State beat the fucking shit of Indiana. Nebraska, Indiana was up by like 16. Which is good because Nebraska was undefeated. Yeah, and then they choked and blew it. And Nebraska's still undefeated, you know. So, you know, but hey, it's, you know, growing pains. First year head coach.

So we'll see. They'll get it right. But does anybody fucking care when your football team's going 6 and 0 or 16 and 0 and you win a national championship? No, they don't. Yeah, that's kind of the tip of the spear there. I think what he ended with. No one gives a fuck about college basketball.

Oh! Not around here. We do not. Hey, guess what? We don't care. Oh, you're a Hoosier football fan. No one gives a fuck. Hold on.

I think the Hoosier people will be saying, hey, listen, you don't have to bury the Hoosier basketball team just because you're a Hoosier football fan. Not just who's your basketball. No one gives a fuck about basketball is what I meant to say. I didn't mean I didn't mean to do just IU basketball.

I just mean in general. Can't wait for those three. weeks in March. Outside of those three weeks? Call me the fuck off. All right. I don't want to hear it. We're talking about it. I'd rather talk about the transfer portal because that is more important than January 20th in college

basketball season. We know that. Okay, sure you're talking college and it's obviously not the NBA because look, do you see what I'm wearing today? Whoa. Water though. What? Don't say the water. I didn't mean to say it like that. I meant like, whoa, what are those? Those are sick. Cool, gray hallies. Yeah. I think these are the newest color

out of the Hallibers. Oh, no. balance a little bit. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what I did almost collapse right there, but that was not the hellies. That was more so in my body, just saying, hey, buddy, you slept two hours less. Those are going to help you be a monster in March. I can feel it.

Are there? Listen, sometimes being a monster in January is not a conversation that needs to be had. Don't you worry about the cyclones. They're going to turn that around. They better. Otherwise, they're going to be fucking enjoying the CBI. What is that? Is that the N-I-T?

That's after the N-N-A-N-A-T. the NIT. It's all the teams that get picked over in the NIT. And they say, okay, fuck it. They can come play a couple games in Birmingham. I didn't know there's three of them. Because I thought the next one was the TBT. You just played the bit of basketball.

Sure. But it's similar because I believe you actually have to pay the CBI to get into it. Okay. All right. It happens. On that note, West Virginia's Hoops Squad, tough. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Ross Hodge, early favorite for,

newcomer of the year. I remember Hodge. Yeah, he's the guy. In DeVries, left West Virginia after one year, his boys playing for Indiana. Yep. And you guys, they're not doing good? I mean, they're, the Big Ten is very tough. It's very tough. So the Big Ten's got football and it's got basketball? Yeah, I mean, the Big Ten is the preeminent conference in the nation. Has been for a very long time. Wrestling, too. Wrestling. You know, women's basketball, volleyball.

Well, women's basketball is you. Youcon, right? And that kind of their thing. Yeah. Well, Iowa had with Caitlin, I think. But they didn't win, right? I'm talking, like, the entire conference, though. Like, obviously, Yukon is the best team in the nation. But, you know, you stack up a couple of these fucking teams in a big time. Really?

Oh, yeah. And Iowa, I know we did our big Audi crooks thing. Hey, you're about to get cooked by Audi crooks. Iowa's a top 10 team again, and they don't have Caitlin Clark. And guess what they're not doing? losing five in a row to the fucking bottom half of the table of the big 12 so you know I was who did that it rest enough I was dated I hope so they're resting up don't you worry monster in March it's coming I still got faith I still got faith

basketball's coming real soon basketball's coming real soon so everybody needs is it fucking tighten it up three more football games not not long enough what what did you say three more football games and then you start that countdown to kickoff again. Yeah, we'll see. We start draft prep. We got the Pro Bowl games, too. Thank you.

I mean, geez. I'm just trying to fucking extend it a little bit. What are they doing this year? It's the week of the Super Bowl. It's the week of the Super Bowl. And Wilburne's. So they changed it. I think it's like Wednesday night or something like that.

I believe it's in San Francisco. I don't think it's a Disney World. Okay, so it's Wednesday night of Super Bowl week? Don't quote me on that, but I believe it is at a a weird time. So then the 2026 Pro Bowl games will be held in San Francisco during a Super Bowl week featuring skills competitions. That's on Tuesday.

That's on Tuesday. Oners is during a week too, right? That's Thursday. Yeah. And we'll be out at Radio Row Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I believe. Yep. Classic. Classic. What a time. Thursday's most important night of the year. A lot of people with hard work in that.

Amen. Oh, yeah. Oh, is that when you're celebrated? Your votes are celebrated? I specifically am celebrated. Do you get invited to that thing? No, no, no, no. Why not? You should. Yeah, you should go. You should go.

Nope, I'm okay, but you should go. You're a voter. We normally do a side-by-side. We watch the NFL honors on one half of the TV, and then Gabe Marency on the other half of the TV. Sports range. Yeah, sports rage. That is a Super Bowl tradition. Friday he was quit. Dave Ball's quit.

Yeah. We were watching them. They were raging right. They were dumb with it. They were so pissed. they had the time in which they were on because they're from super left Canada way over there. So the time in which they were on, Radio Roche clearly shut down. Only people packed up.

They're a vacuum. And they had a full commercial-grade vacuums. It looked like a Zamboni. It looked like a Zamboony was behind them. And fucking, they couldn't take it anymore. They didn't think they were being taken seriously. And this is such an inside joke for the people that know this. but there was

nine people watching that stream live we had six of them we were watching we were six of the nine they were watching at that exact time Loving it Love is so happy They just fucking quit their jobs

In the middle of it Yeah Can't fucking do this again Merenci Just Zamboni was rolling too close And he kept doing the I don't know what do you think And you know

Putting it back to the guy vacuuming Tony in the middle Tony in the middle Yep They just kept asking him questions And as he was getting ready to answer Just Shut up

Tony, that's not what it mean? And then just go to something else. Paul, man. And then they got up and said, quit. They quit their job. Yeah. They've been doing this for like 30 years. Quit their jobs in the middle of the stream.

Then they're told, I think Gumpie's commenting or something in there, they hop back on. Matt Maxwell, boys. Yeah. We're back to the time. Are you there? Hey, boys, watch it there? Yeah, they got the damn bony back. The whole, they did all.

It was. Super Bowl week always provides some outlandish members. Yes, it does. Oh, man. We don't do any of the shit. Nope. No. That everybody else does. You held a concert there once.

Yeah, Wiz Khalifa came out. AJ didn't put his hands up. Oh, yeah. AJ refused put his hands up. No more live music performances allowed from Radio Row. They've changed the rules for Radio Row every year that we've been there, basically. It's a great opportunity. It's a good time.

Man, that thing about the hate that's in that room now at this stage of it all. Oh, my God. Can't wait to get out there. A lot of those people don't go to Radio, bro. Yeah, I know. It's all the other ones. that are, like, told they're supposed to hate me, remember? I'm taking their jobs and their friends' job.

Dicker jobs? Interesting. You are, too, though. Let's not get this fucking... They should hate you, too. I would like that to be known. It's not just me. That's cool. I mean, if you're gonna hate them.

We're a team. They can hate us all. Definitely hate me, what they do, cars. Have you read it? I don't know if you're online enough. Is this whenever DJ Bonnix or Wyss says put your hands up and AJ refuses to do it? I think it is. Hey, I have photo evidence.

of me putting my hands out. That was all the people that are allowed in there. Remember this is during COVID, the back end of COVID? All right. Not everyone hates, by the way. Ran into Docch last night. He's a fan. Yeah, he said something about me having a GAP. You guys know what that stands for?

What's that stand for? I really, I couldn't figure it out. He just yelled GAP at me, and I was like, the retail store. Did he just yell it at you for no reason or what happened? I yelled you. Double D.

you exactly titles with me Doc Hitch and he just yelled G-A-P and I was like go Hoosures baby and kept walking so

and he said to say I'm thinking about who-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-Hoo-Hus. Big night for Dockich, he's big time Hoosier fan. Yeah big time Hoosier fan. Sometimes doesn't love what's going on in Indiana

he'll tell you. And all of a sudden he got Hoosier fans mad at him and that's right where he wants to be. He thrives in that zone. Thrives is an understatement. That is a born to be there. Yeah. I was born in the dark.

Exactly. That is D.D., congrats to him and all the Hoosiers, man. D.D. goes the bad for me and for us a lot. Is the all-time winning scorer, Indiana? Is that true? No, he shut down Michael Jordan. Okay, played for Bob Knight. Yeah.

Coach in Indiana for a little bit. Why don't you have some respect for it? I do. That was, that was, listen. He also told me that I have a GAP. What's it mean? Oh, he said you have a GAP? I would say you have a GAP.

Yeah, he actually, so. Something that can be possessed. Connor was with Ty. I was with Foxy. We, you don't go into Dockage 101. You got to go two on one case you. You never know what's going to happen. But no, he reiterated.

He could bury you. Yeah. And saw you down. You need to have a tag team partner. But yeah, he said, you guys, huge GAP havers. And we yelled it right back. It's something we own. It would be good to be big.

What could the P stand for? Huge. I don't know. That'll live a seat another day, I guess. Man. The Great American National Championship was one last night. Yep. By the Indiana Hoosiers.

Uh-huh. That's what's all about. We're going to go take naps. Yep. It's Tuesday. I, you know what? I was just thinking, at least it's Friday and we got the weekend. It's fucking.

Tuesday. God damn. Fucking Tuesday time. What are you watching tonight? You know it is. We spoke with the man himself. Yes, sir. The man that gave $600,000 away last night.

Courtesy of Eckridge Farm. Marty Smith will be hosting TGL tonight and he is pumped about all of us tuning in. Okay. When you said what happened with us and whoever the person was, I really appreciated the intention to pronounce spoked because I've been

fucking up a lot of words lately but I don't stay committed through the entire word my brain's just been quitting on these words whenever I'm going you

you you Tony we spoke to and I fucking loved it I was like yes tone I fucking loved the way

you just I don't remember any of the words that came on my mouth 30 seconds ago okay you're in the Well, you spoke about Marty Smith in his Eckridge Farms throw.

600,000. Guy won three for five. Yeah. Tiny little hole, not bad. After embarrassing himself, too. Misses, then ball slips out of hands. Mental toughness? Murphy's law was coming, coming in, and then Marty's law was, I got to show up for these people.

What did he say when he first got on the field? Because you guys were really close to him. Yeah, he said something like, how many y'all motherfuckers want some free Eckridge smoke sausage? Watch me hug this fucking peck. Big skin. Boom. Boom. And that was it.

It was filthy. Something about colored pencils, I thought. Oh, yeah. 600K. It's a lot of fucking colored pencils for you teachers. Y'all have a good one. They were playing that over the stadium, weren't they? I didn't think we were.

Marty showed up. I was in a bathroom. I ran to the bathroom. Still had my ears, dude. I was with you. I was next to you. You didn't see what was going on out there. Oh, here is Ty going.

You guys were fucking Eckridge sausages. We were dying. AJ and I had no idea. And then we started hearing you guys live commentating this thing during a commercial break. And we missed it. I'm going to be honest. Me and AJ were in a bathroom. AJ had his microphone.

I did not have a microphone. So AJ was responding for both of us, too, the people for the bathroom. It was... At the urinal with like 10 people behind us had no clue what me and you were dying laughing about. And we're plugged in. Yeah, we can't hear anything that is outside of here. And that is an interesting thing whenever you're out in public. And you can't hear anything that somebody is saying right here.

And you're definitely need to have it happen. People just not knowing that it's happening in the moment, I do feel bad for those people. I try my best to like acknowledge, you know. But if you don't make eye contact and you're not listening, there's some terrible situations that can kind of happen right in this area. Oh, yeah. I think. And I feel terrible. How about Drew Bruce?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Matt and Drew Brie's at Rayero. Yep. Some Miami fan called us Cocksuckers last thing. He did while we were live.

He tried to say it in the microphone as he was walking by. It was literally three seconds after the interception. And he said, you cock suckers, didn't think we were shit. Is that real? Yeah. I think it was something along the time. It might have been like,

looks like we were better than you cock suckers thought. And we were kind of like, what? What? He was so mad at us. Us? Man, you guys could have had a sweet moment there. Because imagine you to take the microphone. Oh, would you like to expand on the...

It was, and the worst part about it is when you were doing the awesome diatribe, like the Indiana Hoosiers, 100 years. Oh. So we couldn't really step on that. But it could have been because us and Bicey and all the flag runners had our own celebrations after every touchdown.

So they saw who we were rooting for. Connor, you're doing the no-good to the field goal? Reff, Connor, other ref. I mean, that thing was the loudest doink in the history of all. Connor just going crazy. Almost caught a ball, obviously, across the bottom. You guys had a lot of action. Then for us, I mean, that block punt happens.

Yeah, pick was down there. Six yards in front of us. No, Koski gets a Russian touchdown down. It does feel like we get a chance to be a part of these games. Oh, yeah. Actually in these games. It's crazy. It was, field pass has been a crazy run.

Yeah. Field pass has been a crazy run. That's an awesome view back there. That end zone view, like I love it. I love being down there. Yeah, of course you can't see some things, but it's a great spot to be. I enjoy it.

Yeah, and by the National Championship, we basically know everybody. Yep, you know the players, you can anticipate how they're going to attack some situations. But yeah, it is. Obviously, it's challenges knowing they pick up three or six yards, they're down the distance. That jumbo-tron operator,

that was a little battle there. But outside of that, you're seeing like coverages, seeing what the quarterback sees, seeing linebackers flow, all this shit. It's dope. It is a lot of fun. Thank you, college ball.

Thank you, college football. College ball has been a hell of a run. We appreciated it immensely. Started with 12. 10 down to one. Indiana's, your national champion. We scripted that for the D block. We moved it here to the F clock.

That's what we do. That's why we. Now, think about Sig. Sorry, think about Sig now. Like, they start their winter workouts in two weeks. What is it? Think about it. Just killing the day, the next group of dudes.

Sig actually went through his schedule with us earlier. We FaceTimed him. Hilarious answer. Hilarious answer out of Sig Nettie. But there was no chance. I will cold FaceTime people, though. Like, people know that. Like, that is my move.

Not expecting an answer. But, boy, if somebody pops up on the other side, great to see you. This is good times. Did not expect him to answer. just kind of sitting and talking about how great he is of a coach. He was like, let's fucking see what this guy's going to do. He answers, great jovial mood, obviously.

But he's already, we're already on the next season or whatever. We yell at him. You know, we yell at him. We force him to try to enjoy it for 24 hours at least, you know. But Coach Saban told us it was until he went to bed. And they woke up and it was like, yeah, we got to go get this whole thing. We're behind. You feel like you're behind when he won a national championship.

Well, yeah, then the transfer portal thing has already happened. You know, like Indiana has won. the transfer portal by a lot of accounts. They had to do that while they're preparing for the biggest games of the year at the same time. And Signetti is a big part of both those things. So you start adding those things together. It's like how do you kind of manage all this?

And he said, you know, he's got a great team around him. He will say that immediately. He'll say, hey, obviously family's amazing. Jeff Kieg's amazing. Scott, the AD's amazing. Pam Witton's amazing. My coaching staff is the greatest. To your point, he empowers them to do the coaching.

It's not really like he is jumping on anybody. He says that. But the amount of things he's had to juggle, you know, through it all, which any coach that gets at this point is going to have to do, Dan Lending talks about it as well. And then immediately after, okay, yeah, you pushed off a lot of shit now because the season's been, so you got to catch up now to all this other stuff. Not just recruiting in what it comes to coaches.

There's a lot of outside shit, you know, that, okay, now we've got to kind of check these boxes as well. And it's like, I don't think he gets a good celebration of his national championship it for a while. I don't think, and I think he knows that too. A couple weeks in the summer, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Early July, yeah, when the coaches get a couple, you know, 10 days.

At some point, you know, it's like, yeah, you got to. Yeah, $2 million bonus. A couple new escalators. He's enjoying that. Amen Corner. I haven't built an Amen Corner. Donner outside of us. Got a Pug and Green, got Amen

Corner. Yeah. We call it we call it, what do we call it, Mendoza? Fernando Armanda Armando Yeah Armando's

Maybe Pond, maybe Pond Maybe he puts a Pond in Pond's Pond Ah Pond's Pond That guy hits so hard So hard Buc 70 Once he gets him drafted He's awesome

When is he gonna get drafted If anyone If he was three inches taller He'd be top 10 I think he has to declare Right? He is not declared But people think he will

What year is he? Junior Junior True Junior He's so good I think he's a red shirt, junior. Okay, so he's played ball. Witherspoon having a lot of success in Seattle may help his draft position because that was some, I mean, he went at what?

I think six overall. So obviously, you know, the NFL and the scouts, everybody's still very high on Witherspoon out of Illinois a couple of, like three years ago. So Pons, he has his speed. He's physical. He can play the ball and he will come up and hit. So I would love to see him, you know, get drafted high and play on the outside if that's where he wants to play. He also has the second lowest mistackle.

percentage. I think it was only 3% on the season. So he will tackle too, which is a huge thing for if you're undersized, he has everything to combat that with how physical and how good of a tackler. Where's he from? Mine. By way of JMU. Yeah, one that got away. Yeah. Oh, Jeremiah. Not the only one. Oh, yeah. Oh, Fernando. Oh, Fernando.

It's going to happen. Oh, no. Who ended the game? Oh, sharp. Yeah, he said it after the game, too. He's recruit me. Still love home. Gosh, Fernando's saying that all week. Yeah. It's part of it.

It's hard to put that you on the helmet. Tony. So good at football. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I wonder what the offers are right now. He won't look at him. For real.

He's the prince of his promise. Mom already tweeted. This is all tunnel vision. Mom said that? Mama said. Gobos. What if somebody says, baby Jesus, I'd like to bless you, actually. Yeah.

We said, we love to get you on our football team. Maybe some old money have her down there in Texas. And he just came here. He was on a clear mission. He didn't get side trade. Didn't get focused. What did Chuck? You say, blinders?

Yeah. He's got blinders, though. I mean, he did get distracted, right? Because where are the Italians? They... No. He stuck through the course. Came here, did what he had to do.

Yeah, but he got taken a different way. Put in a cave on bad. Rose game. Oh, that wasn't it a daytime. There's a chance of IU. Sig. See, he goes down there and says, you want to be a fucking winner or what?

Is that portal still open right now? Come home. Five days for everyone, it's close for everyone else. Miami and I, you have five days. Players are you. Baby Jesus is staying in Miami. Yeah. So what you're saying?

Absolutely. I'm telling you. What quarterback we got, what quarterback we got goats? That Duke quarterback's supposed to go through. There's rumbling happening right now. Dering Mensa. Yeah.

Okay. How much is Malachi Tony, like, player paid nowadays in the NIL? Do we know? I got no clue. He's getting re-up, right? He'll get re-up, weren't he? A wide receiver of his talents that young? Probably, somewhere between one and two, maybe.

So if somebody comes in and says, hey, $4 million, $5 million a year. Two-year, $10 million, come play wide receiver here. You don't think Baby Jesus is going to say, wait a minute, I can walk on water right that way. Yeah. Yeah, but if he goes somewhere else, you don't have... Bread of fish. You don't have E.D. Reed in a big hat cheering you up after losses. I'll tell you, Ray Lewis and Carson Beck's face right before trying to go out there.

It's fucking good, dude. Okay, enough of the shit. That lineup? It was insane. Yeah, it was. It's awesome. You forget about some of the old whites. Yeah.

Well, look, Jimmy Johnson just roaming in? Jimmy was there. Vinnie Tessa Verde? Mm-hmm. The Rock calling in from Jumanji. That's right. His quads. I mean, what is he goes?

That was crazy. crazy. Unbelievable. How does he do that, you think? He has no body for that. He lifts heavy weights. Lifts heavy weights? That's how you got to get there, huh?

I don't know what. He's absolutely jacked and shredded. How big and rifty is, it's just, he's a different human. He's got to cramp all the time, right? I don't know. I don't know how the body works, but. It looked like his right quad was cramping the whole time.

Yeah. He's cutting for, like, you know, for a competition or something? He does look like a bodybuilder. He looks like he is in competition week right now. Yeah. He did lose a lot of weight, so he has been leaner,

right, for like whatever roles he takes, so. He's the final boss, too. Jeez. That's true. He's like, what, 50-something years old? Is that right? He is the final boss, yes. Remember?

You can feel it. Cameraman. See? Rock is awesome. Does he always have goosebumps? Yeah. When you're that shredded, they just always come out.

They have no fat to hide underneath because that's what goosebumps do, so they're just always there. That's the greatest. Rock. We needed them. And I know genetics-wise, you're probably way ahead of the game.

Okay, then us. We would like to know how we get those squaw. Just everything, actually. Just send on over everything that we got to do. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to complete it, Because I assume it's going to involve more than 90 minutes a day in the gym every single day. I think seven days a week. I think he's probably at least in there an hour and a half, maybe two hours.

Is that what we're expecting? He's got to be eating perfect as well. He's not, dude, cheat meals. Come on. Once a week. Six or seven times a day, I assume he's eating some sort of meal. Yeah, probably. He's got the protein pancakes and stuff like that that he.

I don't know if those are a part of the day. today. I assume that is grilled chicken coming in. Kinoa. Probably broccoli. Mm-hmm. What do you eat? What do you eat? Rice and chicken, right? Every meal? Not every day, but I enjoy rice and chicken. Rice and beans had some of those

last night. Oh my gosh. What was it last night? The chicharon was there you go. You guys had chichiron? Yeah. So good. It was very good. It warmed it up twice. I mean, the food that we had at the beginning ass, maybe the most ash cheek spread we'd ever had on any particular plane. I actually said that.

This is poop. Yeah, he did. I am hungry as shit. This is a poop spread right here. What are we doing? Can't have it. Did not tell the plane or the flight tentate. Just internal thoughts were thinking outside, man, I was real excited to eat this food.

I'm very hungry, you know? And then it rolls out, it's like, this is poop. Little bit I know. The emptiness of the setup was some homemade Cuban food was coming out. We had plates. A cafe Cito?

So good. No Cappacito. We did have a couple coffees on there, though. So, you know, that whole thing. Plates with, felt like somebody brought it out of their fucking kitchen. It was so good. So good.

That sounds nice. Plantains? Yeah, they were plantains. We had plantains on there. That sounds, that sounds wonderful. We had some pork, I think. Was that pork where we're any? Is that what the...

That's what the chicharon is pork belly. And then there was. was chicken and onions on this other one? Perfectly cooked. And then it was reheated every time we, I mean, it was. Sounds like you guys had a good time. It was a good time, actually. Yeah, I feel like we did talk a lot about, you know,

college football season wrapping up. College football maybe as a whole, you know, like, it was a good, yeah. Got late, though, quick. Yes, it did. I mean, that thing got real late. And all of a sudden, everybody's eyes got heavy in that plane. Connor and Ty sit next to each other at the table, you know?

That's our seat. Yeah. we had like head on shoulder head on head who sat across from Thai bone son of a bitch yeah

you're telling me got those fucking big fat legs all I mean I basically had this and this is no disrespect to bone

the big fat legs was a little bit of a shot I basically had to sit cross-legged on my seat the entire way Chris Cross apples yeah exactly because bone was just

but the food was so good yeah the chichoton you know kept me coming back for more, so that was all right. But they were cuddling, you know? They were kind of cuddling on the seat. Did you hear about earlier in that who was cuddling? No, who wasn't it?

There were some naps taken and there were some boys sharing a bed together. I don't want to say who it is. I don't want to out them, but... It's not wrong with this, boys. Nothing wrong with this. They were pretty close to each of them. I like that we're making the most of, you know, the amount of space that we had. All right.

We'll be back tomorrow. We'll never know. We'll never know. I'm happy you guys. Took a little snooze. I'll tell you what, yesterday, just kind of all blended in. Then all of a sudden,

walking down to the sideline to start the national championship game, of course. Then Jake Paul's standing there. Jake. Just there right there as you're going on. There's a camera right here, and then Jake Paul standing right next to the camera person. Face at the same place as the camera,

and I'm talking to it. I mean, I have to address this, right? Like, I don't know. Nobody at home sees this, obviously, but I got to talk to Jake. Nice to see Jake. Yeah.

He's moving. He's mad. He's talking a lot. It felt like he was pretty comfortable. Just about what, 40,000 acres or something? He's got this new like... Oh, yeah. George Raiders.

Like, I don't... Fantasy land. I have no idea what it is. This dude, he's a hustler, a businessman, and I committed to boxing. Has he not been much more committed to boxing than I think anybody has given him credit for? Yeah. We talked to him at the beginning of this journey. Remember he was like, I found the thing that I'm supposed to do that helps me be,

who I'm supposed to be, teach me so many lifeless. He did this whole thing at the beginning of his boxing run. And then now it's like, what, 10 years later? He's still eight years later? Not even. Seven years, whatever it is. Every day of this guy's life, he'd been committing just to boxing and boxing. It's like, he could do so many other things.

He's already wealthy. He's invested in so many things he's done. He's like committed to boxing. It's like, I'm fascinated by the Paul brothers. And Jake, I don't know how he's on the field for the National Championship, but fuck, he was almost in the end zone for the whole thing. Yeah. And he was talking.

I thought he was going to be, right, man, through the one. I thought that's who I was going to be talking to. I was like, no, he's pretty good. Good for him and his recovery. He looked cool, though. He had this fucking. Oh, yeah.

What was he talking about my jacket for? Yeah. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Got that jacket from David Allen in October as soon as I saw it. Natty. That's national championship there. Then when I looked at it to take it to national championship, I was like, it seems a little wild.

National championship in Miami. To Bolug. Shout to Tim Debo. Next year's in Vegas, so planning your outfit, no. Good call. One week later, been this year, so that's awesome. Good call. One week later, so is there another, is there another two-by week?

It's on January. Come back here. Somehow next week. Barnes ball here. Oh, didn't even happen. I don't know what's going on. It's bullshit. It is bullshit.

Well, I don't like the fucking bullshit happening with the negotiation for what the college football playoff can be. It's like, I hope we're not at the stage of the college football playoff where we're already trying to back end deals and holding up actual deals that can make the college football playoff better. You know, now, granted, I don't know if that's exactly what's happening with every rule that could potentially be

changed, like the champions, are they automatically getting in top five rank ones? I don't know if that conversation is getting affected by like, well, we want it to be 16. And then Petiti is allegedly saying from the Big Ten conference, I guess the champion, the champion.

I kind of say what they want to say right now. Yes, Petitia knows that. I guess he's got Thor's hammer in there. He does. And he knows that in that conversation. I would like there to be a guarantee it's going to 24 if it's going to 60. It's like, are we already at the stage

of making like future guarantees and a deal to make something better? Like I don't, and his 16 teams right answer. I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it's right. Nick Saban said we just need the right 12. 12 is pretty cool. Yeah.

For like the last two years, we got the, it got it right and daddy. Yeah. Best two teams. Yeah. 12 teams, 16 teams, 24 teams. there's going to be two to three teams that we're all going to see very quickly. Bang, boom, boom, boom, they're probably going to do it. Ole Miss fighting against Miami the way they did.

That was a surprise to me. Especially after watching what Miami did with Indiana. It's like that All Miss team deserves a lot of credit. Yeah, I didn't expect him to beat Georgia. Exactly. Yeah, Winnidad's a real deal. Do we have any updates on if he's going to, like, I told him at the Flo Rider Party. When did that was there?

Yeah, he was cool. Came up. Nice chance to chat with him. I think he had family with. them. I mean, we're post-Flowrata concert. Yeah. This is post-talk on-stage Floraida, waiting for talk to exit stage, sign autographs, get back to where we are so we can leave. Yep. Trinidad's. Talk still with us, but it needs to flowrides. He's recruited him, I guess. Yeah, he's been commenting to the Instagram boys and the official

flow flowrider page. So I think he is kind of working an angle. Trinidad comes over, though. and I don't know him, just felt obligated, you know, to tell him, like, hey, if you don't get the six year, you look like an NFL guy. Not that my opinion matters, but I'm just telling you, watching you play. First thing I'm saying to this guy,

it's just, hey, Trindad, nice to meet you, somebody brings him up, hey, he wants to meet you. Oh, very nice to meet you, dude. Not that my opinion matters. Just immediately right. I don't know how long we're going to be talking. I need to let you know that we feel this way. You look like an NFL guy

whenever you're playing against Miami. You're throwing the spots. your competitive juice and stamina, your leadership, like it felt like you knew what you were doing. I think in my eyes, you look like an NFL guy whenever you're playing against that Miami defense. So if you don't get to six year, it doesn't fucking matter.

He goes, oh, thanks, man. I'm like, yeah, no problem. All right. That was the entirety of the conversation. And it's like, I don't need to be the one to make you feel justified with anything, but I just thought he need to hear from outside the source. Like, hey, bud, I think you might be a fucking

Sunday guy, which he probably has been told, Because you're a state guy, you know, you're low under size. Maybe a lot of people have told him like, yeah, college is, you were a college guy, you're a college guy. It's like, I saw some shit that I thought maybe, maybe good backup, maybe getting an opportunity. I mean, who knows when he could be from there. He can spend it. Got the athleticism and he can definitely spend it in the biggest moments. I feel like we saw him bring out best ball.

So absolutely the Sunday guy, in my opinion. Now, granted, if he could play another year at Ole Miss, I mean, he's going to fucking cook down. Yeah. But can the SEC ever beat the North? Doesn't look like it. No. Cheating. You heard, coach?

You heard of saving? He didn't say it was cheating. He said it was a little different. No, he said it's all legal now, actually. They were. That's what a lot of people are saying on the internet. Be your friend, tell our friends, something nice, but I change for life from us and together.

Team on me. We appreciate you all. Shout to college ball. You've been a hell of a ride. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye!