The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1495 - Tony Romo, Joe Montana, Chargers OC Mike McDaniel, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the breaking news that the Buffalo Bills are hiring their Offensive Coordinator, Joe Brady as Head Coach, and what is going to happen with the other openings. They are also joined by several great guests including All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowler, and current lead Color Commentator for the NFL on CBS, Tony Romo. Next, one of the GOAT’s, 4x Super Bowl Champion, 3x Super Bowl MVP, Joe Montana joins the progrum to chat about the new 49ers documentary that will debut on AMC, his thoughts on the Super Bowl, some great Bill Walsh stories, and if he thinks we’ll ever see another dynasty. Later, former Head Coach of the Miami Dolphins, and new Offensive Coordinator of the Los Angeles Chargers, Mike McDaniel joins the show to chat about what drew him to LA. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunderdow on this Super Bowl season Tuesday, January 27, 2006, this program begins now. Football! It is the greatest, and we are currently in Super Bowl season as we await the last game of football season, the Super Bowl, out in Santa Clara, as the New England Patriots are back in the big game taking on to Seattle Seahawks. Now, it has certainly been some time since we saw Patriots' dominance,

but were potentially at the tip of the spear for the next dynasty coming out of the Revolution region. 23-year-old quarterback, legendary head coach, a bunch of dogs in good decisions, have found them in a place that they were certainly not supposed to be this season this early into the Vrable era and Drake May era that is cooking up there in cold ass. New England, then on the other side of the map, literally.

I mean, you're talking, you're talking really far apart. Oh, yeah. You're talking New England way over yonder. And then Seattle, W. way over yonder. If this was seven-game series, like in NBA, that'd be a toll. Yeah, it would be tough. That would be a real, real toll.

But all the way on this side doesn't get nearly enough conversation by anybody in the football conversation. The Seattle Seahawks back in the Super Bowl. They also had a run that they would consider dynastic, potentially talk about 30 years from now, as one of the great times in NFL history when the Legion of Boom, Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, were taking the world by storm, and we're getting glimpses at their practice facility right there on the lake, as Pete Carroll, who literally was 65-year-old, was spinning it, and everything was competition. Will Ferrell was going in there.

I believe they had other athletes coming in shooting hoops. It was a magical time in Seattle that we were learning about. That then collapsed, kicked out the door, knew who is this guy comes in. They paint over some of the walls. Some. Not all the walls. We have learned. When it was originally reported that they were painting over the walls,

we had been told that not a single sliver of the paint that was here, needs to be seen going forward, which I had seen a building do personally whenever it changed over from one era to a next, which I thought was a bad idea because the reason why this building exists and the reason why we are the team who we are, and the reason why we do what we do is because of everybody that had already done it, so why are we trying to cover up the past of a business that has been built on the backs and the shoulder pads of these particular men? Why would you want to bury that just for your own personal ego? Well, I guess what happened in Seattle is it's not our personal ego. We left some of them up, but there are certainly blank

canvases for us to write our own history here. And they're doing that very quickly in Seattle. They got dogs across the board. And they're not like, look at me type dogs, which is good. Because in Seattle, you're not going to get a lot of look at me. You're way out there. You're far away from the conversation. And in the NFC West, Seattle Seahawks, you know how cool McVe is?

Yeah. McVeigh is so cool. The man. He's in Los Angeles. Looks cool, talks cool, acts cool. Jack. His team's cool. It's super jacked, attractive.

Matthew Stafford, MVP. Going to be the MVP. Cool teeth. They won the Super Bowl. They're in Los Angeles, Ray. great teeth. Good beard, too. Great dad.

We're seeing great dad, great husband, the whole thing. We're seeing that. Then you go, San Francisco. Zame by court of Kyle Shanhan. I don't think so. Still looking. So cool.

That thing. He's down at a beach house, backwards hat, throwing football across the street, maybe boozed up into a goddamn garbage can or whatever. Strong beard. So cool. George Kittle,

his wife has a show. That's how popular that whole team is. Wives have a show over there because of how popular San Francisco 49. True Williams. I mean, you talk about the greatest small time. With the boom. I mean,

they have. A better move. Seattle Seahawks. I don't know what that was. Talking about the electrical substation. Now that is part of the conversation, and John Lynch is taking it very serious. But whenever you talk about NFC West conversations,

Seattle Seahawks, not even in the top 20, probably, for most conversations about the NFC West, let alone the entire NFL. And then now here we are. They were the number one ever all seen the NFC. They're now in the Super Bowl with a brand new quarterback that doesn't look like the same old Donald. It's a brand new Donald.

And McDonald might be a football computer like Signetti, in a team full of dogs that are just impeccable. You bring Cooper Cup back home, he's seemingly still got it, even though the L.A. Rams told him he doesn't anymore, allegedly. That's coming out now. So it's like, these two teams are very improbable. These two teams, awesome stories. These two teams represent football very well.

I'm thankful this is our last game. Seahawks favored by four and a half with 74% of the bets is exactly where. Let's go over the toxic table at Boss Conner and Antichemann. Conman, New England Patriots fan, wants to be. A lot of people betting against you guys as the underdogs. Everybody thinks this is just a flash in a pan, the easiest trip back to a Super Bowl in the history of dynastic-type runs. What is your mindset like as we sit here 12 days away from the Super Bowl? Yeah, being the underdog, I've seen a lot of people kind of pull up clips from, you know, 2001 when the Patriots are going to kind of start this entire thing off against the Kurt Warner Rams.

But today, you know, just gratefully smitten. Once again, just gratefully smitten, you know. I am just still about. bouncing around as if this is the first Super Bowl I've ever been able to experience as a Patriots fan. And just the perspective of it, you know, going back through the season, I've seen a lot of people say, remember when, you know, Jalen Carter spit on Dak Prescott, how far we've come since that game. And I kind of take myself back there just to the expectations of the season.

And it wasn't even playoffs. It was, hey, let's just make sure we got this thing going in the right direction. Let's make sure Drake May is the guy for sure. Everyone had confidence in it, I think, but just knowing for, you know, a primetime game in Buffalo, is he going to be able to go and deliver? He did that kind of started the entire 14 game regular season, win streak. But even going back a year ago, you know, we're seeing all these coaches get hired and stuff, and it puts me in that mindset as well.

The playoffs as a Patriots fan were so far away. Not even a story at the beginning of the season was us going to the playoffs. A year ago, though, it wasn't even on the radar. You could imagine it, but you felt. felt like you were living in a fairy tale land. If you told me a year ago that the Patriots would be in the Super Bowl playing against the Seattle Seahawks, I wouldn't believe you. I would want to, but I wouldn't even be able to get myself there.

So I think just once again waking up as a Super Bowl fan again, as a fan going into the big game with real want and desire for a team to win. I've gotten used to, hey, yeah, I'm glad the Super Bowl is here because I can't wait to bet on the national. You know, I can't wait to bet on what Gatorade color is going to come out at the end when whoever team wins. Now I don't have to care about that stuff that I never cared about in the first place. Now I can go back to what the Super Bowl is all about. And that's cheering for your team. Cheering for the team that is once again there.

I mean, this is at 11th time. They've clinched a birth for the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. And I believe I've been alive for nine of them. So it is just one of those things where you can't wrap your head around it as you have. The Lions have never made it to be. the Super Bowl. No. Four teams have never

made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah. During his lifetime. Yeah. Nine-year NFL vet, fresh out of a brutal snowed-out situation. Thank you for battling the elements. Derrish J. Baller.

Baby Bucs. Obviously drafted to the New England Patriots. This dude, 11 Super Bowl bursts. He was been alive for nine of them. For a large portion of his developmental years, he was going to a parade like every other year. Yeah. Let alone the Red Sox and the Bruins.

and the Celtics and the New England Revolution. Oh, the Reds. Yeah, everything like... But for football, his whole life, I think he got, like, desensitized to it. And then they did have a little bit of some shite years where there wasn't hope.

And now he's back. I think that's why he's been so giddy. You know, I think younger years, first dynasty, wouldn't have felt exactly like this at this stage. But after a little bit of taste to suck, just a tiny taste to suck that they had, which, once again,

the Detroit Lions have never made it to the Super Bowl. That'd be a tough. thing. I mean, the last seven years as a Patriots fan, I don't think you guys can really wrap your head around. Okay. All right. Okay. Don't even get into that. No, but seriously, when you, when you are that hated as a fan base, once you do go to the bottom, it is so loud. Like, for the Lions, they've always stunk. So it's never like, oh, you remember? No, because they don't remember. They've never been there. They don't get it. When you are at the top and then you go all the way down to the bottom, your quarterback leaves and wins a Super Bowl summer

else. So everyone, so the coach that you love, it was never him. It's not him. He didn't have anything to do with it. It was the quarterback that left. Like, everything collapsed in such an ugly, ugly way. So the Lions can't, they can't understand that as fans because it's always been ugly. It's always been gross. It's always been something you don't want to be a part of. Whereas the Patriots were the creme de la creme in the world of sport, not just football. Go down the lines of what teams want to be. It was the Patriots. So to kind of, don't, don't act like you guys

know what it's like. Exactly. Don't act like you know what it's like until you've been to the top and you've been to the bottom. In that order by the way. And then back to the top. Are these assholes trying to make us feel bad for them? Is that what I'm hearing right now? That's one half of the hammer God Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers fan. Ton Diggs, they just

had a separation of coach because of lack of playoff success. Now they got Coach McCarthy in there. But yeah, I think what you're hearing is, you don't know what it's like, brother. To go from the top floor to the basement as quick as you do, especially with every floor you're going down. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

See you never. A lot of that, a lot of that down the body is what he's saying. I'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying that is his argument that I did not expect to come out of his mouth today. Did you expect what he just did right there? A thousand percent. These maddles are the worst. They're absolute worst people on all of earth.

And that's how you know right there, boom. Then that's where we want to be. That's when you know, like, that's why I'm so smitten. because people don't like that with gratitude of course great police men that people don't want to give the pat's credit people are starting to turn on drake may which i mean we are right this is our wheel this is a sweet boy yeah no exactly he's a great he's a great man he is he is just one he's a good christian he's good quarterback he's a good leader he's soon to be i'm sure a good father i know he's a good husband i mean we've all we've all watched bake miss he is in anne michael's corner at all times

I mean, the guy is perfect, but if you're outside of the realm of greatness, which everybody but Patriots fans are, you don't understand it. See, this is what I'm talking about with you, masholes. The whole thing you just did right there. Obviously, you took an opportunity, and you certainly made the most of it as you should. They're back in the Super Bowl. There's nothing else anybody else can really say, and that's kind of what these two weeks are all about.

Yeah, and they're big underdogs, huge underdogs in the Super Bowl, and that's why we're in this cycle right now. We had another hiring, obviously, today, but that's so important to get your head coach. You had the head coach Belichick, who was the head coach in the gym for so long, and then you got lucky getting Tom Brady in the sixth round, and he goes on to be the greatest of all time. And now you're looking at hopefully chapter two of that,

if you are a patriot, and obviously I was high on Drake May. I said take her number one, so I feel right about him being where he's at, and hopefully he continues to build his success. And you see the building there. You have Josh McDaniels, who we assume is going to be there for a long time with Drake May. So it is a very, very good spot to be in if you are a Patriot fan. Yeah, they have been hated for a long, long time.

The great teams, the great players. You're always going to have a large number of people, fans, and then a large number of haters who want to see you fail. So now you're in a great spot because you're back in the Super Bowl, but you're also in the spot where everyone is rooting against you because there is another great story on the other side, more of a redemption story with Sam Darnel, and then kind of a new school coach, Mike McDaniel,

you know, another mastermind on the defense side of the ball. It's a great matchup, but yeah, it is an unbelievable story to see this from New England because we've seen teams suck for so long. We've seen teams have great runs and they just fall off a cliff and kind of nept the Raiders. The Raiders, before our time, they were a great team. Just win, baby. They had great defenses. They had great quarterbacks, great coaches.

John Madden, one of the greats of all time to go from the sideline to the booth. And then now since we've kind of been alive watching football, they've sucked. So, like, you can go from the penthouse to the shithouse and stay down there. So to see what they've been able to do, it obviously starts with ownership with Robert Kraft and then, you know, getting the right coach and then getting the right quarterback. And they look like they're in a great spot going forward. Okay, so we do have some breaking news that can potentially get people back to where or to where the Patriots are maybe for the first time. Joe Brady hired as the head coach with Buffalo Bills, which I think Debo was just alluded to. Congratulations, Joe Brady.

And ascension in the football world from LSU offensive coordinator with Joe Burrow and the boys whenever they win the national championship to the Carolina Panthers with Matt. rule. That ends up not working out. Then goes up to Buffalo, becomes the OC, takes over for real as the OC, and their offense changes. Now Josh Allen becomes an MVP. Now the Buffalo Bill's offense is obviously must watch. What will Joe Brady, who now knows the building very well, obviously understands the culture, which I think they appreciate up there, although they haven't been able to win, maybe brings a new mindset to it. He's an offensive coach, as opposed to a defensive coach like McDermott. McDermott has withdrawn his name from any head coaching openings for a year. He's probably going to sit it out and see what the coaching cycle looks like next year.

But now Joe Brady goes from offensive coordinator to head coach. Obviously, your quarterback was sitting in on meetings. He certainly made it known that he liked Joe Brady, obviously. What are your thoughts on his hiring, D? But I like that the system is not going to change for the offense. I like that the language will remain the same. I like that he has a familiarity with Buffalo understands what it could be like as a Buffalo Californian.

Other than that, I don't know if he has what it takes to be a head coach. I guess we just kind of find that out right now. That's kind of what we do in real time, Derrius. Absolutely. We'll all see it. And one thing we definitely know is that he has a good relationship with the quarterback, been there for a long time in different roles. And now he is the head man. So maybe we do see a little bit of change with the offense.

They become more of a run-heavy team with the offensive line with James Cook, who led the league in rushing this past year. And, you know, we saw Josh Allen take the steps of being able to take care of the ball more until it got to the biggest moments. He definitely turned it over. But when you become the head man and now you don't have the defensive head coach, Deshaun McDermott or whoever that head coach is over you saying, hey, this is the game plan I want, this is the things I want.

Maybe they are a little wide open. Maybe they change things up. But the relationship with the head coach and the quarterback, a lot of people saying, hey, don't hire Josh's friend. You know, if you got a good coach, you need a good relationship with the quarterback. We saw it with Jacksonville, Liam Korn. We've seen it in other places. You need that relationship.

They don't need to be best buddies, but they definitely have to have a game plan going in every game. and then hopefully to get to the next, the biggest step that they have to get, which is the Super Bowl championship. And you have an MVP caliber quarterback. So you have that question. You have that box check. Now you got to get that defense in order. You got to make the right hires.

We know how important the staff is. But I'm interested to see, man, Joe Brady, he was the hot name off that 2019. We all saw or thought he would be a head coach in NFL probably two, three years after that. It took him a little longer. But I think going through those different roles in the NFL, having some failure in Carolina, it's kind of like we see with the quarterback. You learn things along the way. And now I think, I hope this works out because, you know, I want to see Josh Allen win.

I want to see Joe Brady be successful. Now, obviously with New England and Miami and all these different teams, and it's to be a great storyline going forward. But I hope this works out. Yeah, and you talk about Josh Allen. Obviously, we all did because he's the MVP. I did as well. But don't forget, James Cook with Joe Brady calling plays and designing everything went off. He's become one of the top running backs in the league.

So Joe Brady, very diverse whenever it comes to the offensive in their offensive line. A. Q. Shipley named him the number 1-0 line in the business. So Joe Brady on the offensive side has seemingly had a lot of success. Always has a good fade. Do I like any white guy that has a good fade? I think I would go back. Justin Timberlake always seemingly showed up with a good fade

when he wasn't in his perm years. Tim Tebow. Always had good fade for Caucasusids. Yeah, Chet Hank's. Always. Bombaclott. His fade would certainly come together. He's got some Jamaican. He's got some Jamaican.

I think he's half. Yeah. He's an honorary Jamaican. I don't know if that's true. That's what the comments would tell us. Okay, well, obviously, if the comments are accurate, we'll certainly ride with that. Kelsey is a talent, though.

We will say that's absolute talent, absolutely talent. Kelsey always has great fate. Joe Brady always has good fate, which is good news. We're going to be joined here in a matter of moments by somebody who has, you know, obviously been seen by a lot of people through his football. days. But what needs to be kind of talked about a little bit is his actual resume. Okay. Let's go back through the person who's about to join us, athletic career. One of the greatest non-professional

golfers to ever exist. Yep. Okay. Could have been professional golfer probably, we assume, if full-time commitment was in there. Three-time player of the year for D1A in college football. He was the D1 AA Heisman winner. That's the best ever. In high school, in hoops, which we were just talking about golf. In high school in hoops, he averaged, what did he average? 24 points, nine boards, five assists. And a guy who he played with who played in the NBA for like 17 years said this guy could have a thousand percent played in the NBA.

Okay, so he could have been an NBA. Karam Butler. Karan Butler was a dog. That is the guy who was speaking on who was going to join us. Okay. So he could have been a professional basketball player as well. Okay, so professional golfer could have happened. He was a hell of a baseball player as well.

Baseball could have made it, okay? This fucking pie's on. Okay, and this isn't even what we're talking about, okay? What we're talking about is, oh, this guy would be an all-pro, four-time pro bowl quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted QB out of eastern Illinois. Ladies and gentlemen, color commentator who speaks to the biggest audiences in football. every single year. They had a Thanksgiving record 57.231 million viewers.

The most watched and listened to regular season game in NFL history, the commentator, Pisano, Tony Robo. Yay! Tos! Gladi for your time, my Paisano. I can tell you, if I didn't know what I was getting that out, it came on a lot

sooner. That was incredible. Well, we talked shit, though, too. I actually think I was good. Tony, we talk shit, though, too, because we are in the athletic world. So I think people do kind of have that entire thing, but I think your athletic career and your resume should be chatted about a little bit more because now the only

conversation about you is your commentating. Now when you retire and decide to head into the booth to take the gig that you do, do you understand that you're going to be remembered forever as that guy as opposed to Dallas Cowboys quarterback or professional potential golfer or anything like that? Did you expect that whenever you took

this job? No, I actually remember Jim Nance told me he's like, I think when you're all said and done, you're going to actually remembered for announcing. And, you know, when you're a player, we're like, they're just talking. I mean, that's why I was like, I'm like, they're just talking. We're the ones playing. And I still feel that way in some ways. They're like, they're the guys who are important. And we get to tell their story and help build up the game and certain people. I love that part of it. I mean, just seeing what happens as people move on, which you've created. I mean, you guys there. I mean, Tony, obviously, Ty, Boston,

there's, I mean, it's like, you change the whole landscape. The entire thing, literally just got changed because of what you brought on and you guys did. And it's like, it's just completely different than when I grew up for even five or seven years ago, I'm like some people have talent to kind of go do that. You guys show it. I love watching you guys. It's so much fun. It's just literally been a joy because it's like, but it's rare to go change the whole landscape.

And I'm just so cool to be on with you guys. Well, hold on, Tony. This is not how this goes. Why? Thank you, Tony. Yeah, you don't know. Love you, Tony. We appreciate.

Thank you. Hey. Hey, grazie, Tony. Grazie, Tony. Grazie, Grazie. You're not Italian, Tony? Oh, great story for you. I am a rookie in the National Football League,

and you're flying out here in 20 seconds, hopefully not one minute. But Bill Parcell is our head coach. And Tony, the late Tony Sparano, who is a great coach, who's an offensive line coach, and he's Italian. So is Parcells. And they're saying, and Parcell's like, Tony, you've got to get your Paison. He's awful.

He's terrible, all these things. And I'm sitting there like, I don't think he knows I'm not Italian. Tony Romo is not Italian. Hold on, hold on. I am flustered here. So you are not, I've been calling you a Paizond every time I talk about you. I'm 100% so sorry. I actually let Parcell do it, too.

I wanted to make the team. So I was like, hey, let's go with it. I got a lot of the beat. So I, and then Sparano comes through one day, he's like, you know he's not Italian, right? And I was like, shh, what I'm doing? We're all the same team here. I thought. You pretend.

So I'm a lot. I got a little bit of everything in me. Okay. Well, uh, Mutros, Grasios, me,

and thank you. And merci beaucoup and grazzi. Okay. And, uh, I, I think, I forget what the German is,

but I could find it in there. Tony, let's talk about you commentating. Obviously, uh, do you keep up with fan response? And when there's 50 some million people listening and watching what you're doing,

you understand that there's going to be reactions, both incredibly positive and negative because I don't think there's ever been a color commentator that has been well liked because at some moment, you're going to have to call a terrible time for a team's history. Like there's going to be a devastating loss and a play-by-play person is going to have to be the voice

of that loss and that celebration of the other team. So I think there's always going to be a sense of hatred that you are going to be associated with a negative thing happening for something that people love, especially at the mass amount of people that watch football games. Do you keep up with this shit? that gets sent about you? Do you keep up with the praise?

Like, how do you kind of deal with 50-some million people having an opinion on how you set the tone of a football game? How do you deal with that? Well, I think it goes with territory. Like, people are like, what about the criticism here? I was like, well, I mean, do you get, like, you guys go through this all the time, too. It's like you're doing you, and you got to be yourself and everything. And you're trying the best.

It's not like you're never not trying your hardest to go be great at something. But then you look at it and it's like, I mean, you're whole crew. The noise is the noise. it's part of being in this job. And to me, it's like it's up, it's down. But at the end of the day, I mean, you don't really listen to things unless, to me, it's like all the fans come up to me and say how much they love us and everything.

And it's like, that's what I feel. As far as looking at stuff online, it's just part of the process. But I don't think it really changes things. It's like everyone likes me. They're watching you. So it has to be something there. But we're also commenting on their teams that are winning and losing. It's like I don't like someone when he's not fully rooting for my team.

So there's a balancing try. I root for both teams. I root for guys who love the sport, who care so deeply, and they want to win. It's like, I want them to care as much as I did. And those are the guys

who kind of, like, root for a little bit, and sometimes it comes across a certain way, but I love it. It's a great job. How do you go about your preparation? Do you try to learn about the players more? Do you try to learn about the scheme more?

Because I remember at the beginning of your run, you were basically calling out what was going to happen every single play, and it was epic. It was like actually Romoing, I think, is what people started calling it. It was like kind of your calling card. for what you were doing at the beginning

as you were trying to make your way. Kind of felt like you were shooting from the hip a bit, rode the emotion of game, but then you were calling out plays as well. Is that from your experience? Is it from the week preparation? Like, what is your week ahead of games whenever you're either talking or watching

what you're trying to prepare for? Well, there's a lot that goes into it. I think the biggest thing is it's like a coach you're playing, you're going to soak in it early in the week. In other words, you start watching the games and you start to like get a sense for who this team is and what makes them good. Where there's their strengths or where's their weaknesses.

And so I sit there and eventually you get to a point where you're like, this is problematic for this team. And so I remember doing the Bills Broncos game and going into that game, I was like, okay, Denver's the number one seed. You know, obviously that's the number one team of the FC. But Josh Dowell is the best player. He's over here. So that's going to be okay.

Let's look at this. This is a great defense here. Oh, you know what? This is actually a bad matchup for Denver a little bit. They could have had other teams, but Buffalo is a great team. They can run the football. They're big. Denver's actually faster.

It's almost like Denver was built to beat Kansas City. And it's like they didn't necessarily ready to go against Buffalo in this environment. You saw Buffalo and pose their will and be able to run the ball on them. But I was like, that's tough. That makes it a lot tougher. So I'm like, all right, give the edge. And they got the quarterback. Okay.

This is going to be a tough game. Then all of a sudden you look on the other side and you're like, man, you can run the ball in Buffalo. But I don't see Denver running the ball in Buffalo. It just doesn't seem like that's who they are. their idea. They're not going to impose their will. So I'm like, now it's tougher. And then all of a sudden, Boone Knicks comes out there and has an incredible game. Sean Payton calls a perfect game. And all of a sudden, you see, well, I forgot they have Sean Peyton. And Boe Nix is for real. And all of a sudden, that defense got after Josh Allen in the

past game a couple times, and there's the game. But these games are like that. It comes down to these styles and fights. It's fun. Okay. So you're trying to figure out the style going into the game and figure out weaknesses and figure out who is obviously doing it, you can potentially then predict exactly how a game's going to go. Or maybe expect a game to go a certain way. Whenever you just mentioned there that Sean Payton's the coach, I forgot about that. There are some quarterbacks that you certainly enjoy a lot more than others, it sounds like, whenever you're calling games. And why do you think you've fallen in love with some quarterbacks? Because I think every color commentator does it. There'll be some quarterbacks,

because quarterbacks are the game. You know that. I mean, you were the quarterback for a long time. It's literally quarterbacks and punters. That's right. Which punter, by the way, only other one taking snap. You know, so it is, uh, on field. You know, so it is, uh, uh, on field. You know, you Yeah, so, yeah, punts and feel, yeah, and even on kickoff, I'm getting a ball. Yeah, so it is about us. So now that it is about us, how much do you try to, like, separate human from play, play, like, how do you kind of balance all of that while trying to tell a story and be kind of non-biased towards anybody else that isn't that person, if that makes sense.

You have to be yourself, you know, this. Like, at times you're the most loved person. At times you were the, I mean, when you sit there and play the heel on game day, it's fantastic because I'm like, I don't know if I could pull it. back on. You got some of those, too. It's amazing. Those sounds.

Are those everyday life? That's just who you are? It's terrible. Yeah. It's real. I don't know, Jim. I don't know. Yeah.

For me, though, I feel like you have to be yourself and just go with it. You know what I mean? It's like I got to this position because of that I have some guess that, you know, the good Lord bestowed upon me that I'm able to utilize at a certain time. I mean, I feel like I want the game to be built up. I want certain players, you know, the guys who care deeply. I mean, to me, it's like, I just want you to give everything you have. And if you literally care that much to everything, then you root for those guys

because not everyone gives every ounce to them. And then so many players do, but not all of them. And so I just root for certain people who love the sport and give it their all. Like, boy. Well, we respect and appreciate the amount you're given to the sport. And your energy, we ride the wave with you, you know, like all that shit. It's the best. You know, we are there with you.

51 million people are there with you. Keep going, man. I also appreciate the fact you're not forcing anything. Feels like you are letting the game come to you. It does feel like you let the game come to you whenever you talk about it all. And we respect and appreciate that. Let's talk about some moves that were just made, Tony. Go ahead, D. Butt.

Yeah, Tony, one of those quarterbacks where it definitely comes through on the TV that you love him. Josh Allen out there in Buffalo and now he's got a new head coach. I know you've set in a ton of production meetings with Josh Allen. I would assume with Joe Brady as well. What's your thoughts on his hire? What's your thoughts on how Joe Brady will, I guess, evolve as a head coach now? Well, I just heard that right there. So that's interesting.

But I was thinking right after, you know, I didn't love them letting Sean McDermott go. I think he's a great football coach. Someone is going to get a great guy. I mean, I think if you're going to make that play, though, this is the only reason that you do that is because if you have a stud in your building who might get a head coaching job somewhere else, you keep him in-house. And the only way to do that is to hire him as your head coach.

Now, I don't necessarily think Sean McDermott takes the backseat to anybody. But what Joe Brady did when he came on, you know, really changed the fortunes of this office for the last year and a half. I mean, it's been outstanding. They have a run game. They have the ability to play action. Josh Allen drops back, but he's just played the best football of his career last year and a half two years. So to me, it's like, this is the Joe Brady hired. it's a lot of the reason why strong McDermott might not be there in some ways.

Yeah, because they're wondering, you know, over the last couple years. And you talked about Josh Allen and being his best and the offense being its best. Remember, as soon as he took over, James Cook, let James Cook became the thing. It was like literally the entire game. And now he's top runner in the league. Obviously just signed a new deal. Offensive lines good. Josh Allen is good.

Are they good or does Joe Brady help make him better too? Probably. And now he's the head coach. He's in the building. Hiring a staff, though, Tony. That's the whole thing. You know, obviously you played for the Cowboys long, forever. Is it the only team?

Yeah, got it. Dallas Mavericks, you played for two. Yeah, one day. What? Oh, yeah. Yeah, scored 30. Yeah, you're a kicker and a puncher. What did you say?

I say, yeah, you're a kicker and a punter too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're damn right. Absolutely. It takes a couple in preseason. Yeah, you get it? Yeah, you understand. I heard you were popping and lock it out there with the Mavs.

They thought about signing you for a playoff run. We don't know the bottom of it. You would have to certainly get to the bottom of it for that entire thing. It's true. I was only about 42 pounds overweight, I thought. So I just didn't quite a very bad. How's that back, dude? You're always doing the cat cow on the fucking greens.

Do you think, do you choose the most ridiculous places to do those? Because they always get a photo of you on like a crescent of a hill doing the back stretch right on the outside of the green. You're an incredible golfer. We've all witnessed it. We're all very impressed with your golf game. But is your back? How is the back? Is that just going to be a chronic thing?

for you, do you think? Or how do we beat it? Oh, it's chronic. I mean, I've had two back surgeries. It's every day. My wife and kids know, it's like, all right, I got three boys, so it's so fun. And they're like, all right, let's go by basketball. I was like, no problem. Just give me 34 minutes.

Glute exercises, the core work, and then I should be ready to go. It's not an exaggeration. Sometimes when I'm sitting down there doing the cat calls and everything, and on the course of it, I'm like, it's not me choosing the worst. It's my back choosing me. Okay, okay.

It drops you. There comes another picture. What are they going to do? But I like my back. It drops you at that spot. Got it. We should have a little bit more respect for that. Yeah, because I'm always like this.

Exactly. Okay. I apologize. And back problems are the worst. The worst. No joke. I mean, we don't want to pile on anything.

You know, you might know. No, but think about Stafford this year. I mean, for him to do what he had back. Remember, that was a little worried preseason.

Then it comes out as an MVP. It's like, that might be a little reason why he might not come back. If you look closely, your career, I think that, did injuries affect, did the back surgeries come whenever you're playing? I don't remember this. And when you're making these decisions, you know, like Stafford, we, it's obviously been alluded to that maybe he doesn't continue to play or whatever and they have to move on post-Saffer. And I think that's been talked about a while. We would automatically like say, okay, you won a Super Bowl.

I think everybody acknowledges his greatness. We think he's a Hall of Famer. And if now is the time to walk away. But people very rarely get to walk out on their own, you know. A lot of chasing the dragon almost happens. And I'm not going to say it's going to happen again, but I don't know. Off an MVP season, if you're just a walk away, that would take a lot of, like, that would take a lot to come off an MVP. Conference title appearance, like you're that close to. Tony, that would be a crazy amount of human restraint, you know, that comes. I agree.

You're so smart with the human dynamics, and you can tell people right away. I mean, you're able to switch in a second and change a subject, make someone feel comfortable or not. I see it so clearly, like with Stafford, it's like, people don't do this. It's like they come back. You're playing the best football of your career. You don't just stop, right? Yeah, I don't know. Tony, I don't know.

Tony. I don't know, Tony. I don't know, Tony. I don't know, Pat. You're the greatest. With Stafford, the game will miss Stafford if he does not play. In his teeth and his beard and everything's too nice from not to cover the game, if he wants to get into a post, we obviously would like that.

Do you think a question for you guys here with Stafford? He's a great example. And he was like, what's happening across the league? Now, you see it was Sam Darnold. You saw Daniel Jones resurrection over there in Indianapolis before he got injured. We saw Baker Mayfield at the Tampa. It's like the wrong situation, right? It's like you don't get to necessarily pick your parents.

But like sometimes if you go to a nice home or something, you get taught earlier. You get taught better. These guys, they go to Shanahan. They go to McVeigh. They go to Kevin O'Connell. You get these coaches and all of a sudden of your career. And it's like Stafford, I mean, he's been one of the kids. the best was so long, but he didn't get his credit until he went to L.A. really fully, right?

I mean, we're talking about the top two, three quarterback pretty consistently here for a while. I feel like maybe four, but it's like, I mean, he might play as well as anyone the last two years. Yeah, definitely. Perfect match with McVeigh, too, it felt like. You know, McVeigh felt like. Yeah, that's the other part, that division, I mean, that would you like to go to the Cardinals if you're a coach when you have to go against McVeigh, Shannon and Mike McDonald's good luck. I mean, that's true. Yeah, and also, we know about the report cards. They didn't like that we learned about to report cards,

but I don't know if that's necessarily the place. Let's talk about a place that is back, and obviously you played through the era. I was on football field as Debutt and AJ, who joins in the second hour, we're all part of it. This guy, through his formative years, got to enjoy it. Now he's back. Boston Connor has a question for you, Tom.

Yeah, Tony, it's an honor. You actually taught me a valuable lesson in this business. I think you might like me because you're a Pat's fan. I do now. I do now because you called, you know, Brady v. Mahomes, Chiefs, AFC Championship. Awesome. Then we got bad. And then I just started to hate you and I tweeted something awful about you.

And then you liked the tweet and I said, okay, this guy gets it. I love Tony Romo again. But speaking of those times, we are back in those times. The Patriots are once again in the Super Bowl. Drake May, Josh McDaniels, Mike Vrable. What do you think about that whole resurgence? And just so you know as well, you know, everyone talks. about once your team is in a prime time game, you know they're good again. Typically,

especially for an East Coast CBS type team, once the Patriots got the Romo Nance Booth, I think everyone in New England realized like, okay, there's something here. And I know you were early on them, but how do you feel about what they've got going in 23-year-old Drake May with a young first year, Mike Vrable? What do you think? I mean, it's been so impressive to watch. I mean, this has all the makings. I mean, this is early. for me to say that I thought they'd be the Super Bowl, that wouldn't be true. And you guys know, I almost never get that wrong. So I feel like when they hired, it started in the off season by the crafts making the decision to move on.

They just were like, okay, we made the mistake last year. Mayo's not our coach for the future. They bring in and hire Brable. That's the very starting point for this whole process. Then all of a sudden you say, well, Ravel, you're CEO, you're that guy that they run it more than ever now in the lead. the head coach, it's like, who's your staff? Pat mentioned earlier. It's like, that staff is huge. Who are you going to have on your staff?

Well, he's going to go get Josh McTanhas. It's like, whoa. And you got a young quarterback who's learning. And I'm pretty sure this happened a long time ago as well. His name was Tom Brady. And obviously McTanis was the OC at the time. But he ended up developing and having this incredible run together. I mean, you saw that run right there. That was, I've seen all these plays from Josh to all these years.

Boston. You've seen all these plays. Like, if the weather was nice and it was, third and four, he'd throw a wide receiver screen trying to run the clock out to Welker around a bit. And then it's like at the end we got to keep the clock running. What's the safest call, but we still got to be aggressive and get a first down. Oh, it's bootleg and send everyone there. That way, even if you stack of the clock still keep up. Like, he's had these plays forever. And I felt like you saw the inference. And that was the starting point for them to make this run. And then Drable's ability

to sense and feel and get the collection of the roster altogether and see. They have chase on, and you probably know it's pretty better than I do probably. Boston, but Chasedown comes in there. This is your outside linebacker, and he's the stuff. He got cut from Carolina, I believe. And then he was on the practice squad for the Raiders, and Grable looks at this dude and he goes, that guy can't play in our system. He just

hasn't gotten taught yet. The player development there off the charts, this is why they're here. It feels like the, it feels like the old Patriot. The good old day. They block a kick. They block a kick out there. Obviously, they make the smart play. They don't make it extinct. The weather. It's ugly football. The weather's terrible.

It's like, we've seen this. We have literally live this entire thing. And Vrable was trying to shy away from that. He was talking to Coach Cower and Coach Cower's like, you know, I've seen this before. Defensive coach, young quarterback up here. And Vrable's like, I don't want to, let's not. Didn't shy away from it, but was also

like, hey, we got to do something vastly different here. That's like the greatest of all time. But it looks eerily similar. So the fans are like, oh, we're right back where we're supposed to be. They're loud, Tony. These massholes Tony, these massholes are loud and they know how to be. Yeah, the big difference, and

I saw him, Vrabel sit down with Bruski, and he said, Bruceky told him he reminded him a lot of Parcells. And I think the big difference between Belichick and Vrable is like the personal connection with the players because Belichick was an unbelievable coach, obviously, unbelievable game playing a week to week. He was going to have the team prepared. Vrable was still going to do that. He was that type of player, teammate, coach.

But having a personal connection with these different players in their different stages in their career, I think is the biggest difference. Obviously, two very different coaches, the biggest difference between the Belichie. era and now what the variable era will be in New England but you know obviously there's more ways it's a thousand ways to get a cat and on that way that's weird people say that a lot

why cat I can't what did the cat people hate cat and how many different ways are there actually I wonder can't be a thousand that it's interesting you think about the weirdos though out there doing it they probably found a thousand different ways where's Bill that would use fire it's weird there you go okay

same same thing that's a weird I just said it. You guys just didn't say it. I got it. Yeah, that seems to be the gym. Yeah, that feels like that is kind of your thing. Riding the wave with you is an experience. You have to understand that.

I assume because in real life, that probably happens whenever you're talking to people. It's just like that in the boot. It's fun. It's fun riding a wave. But just like whenever we do our thing, and I think you did try to reference that, even though you're at 51 million and we're nowhere near that amount. There are people that are just like hate who I am in real life

and definitely on the Internet as well. and it sucks for them whenever I'm dropped into something. You know, like, I'm sorry that this is, I'm here, but I am here. I'm the same way. I'm like, I'm not trying to have it bad. Yeah, I know you don't like me. I know you don't like me, and I'm here, and you want to like this. Like, I am so sorry, but this is just how this is.

So that's always going to exist. So I respect the fact, I see a lot of sympathico with the way you kind of go about doing your thing from me. So I have a lot of respect for what you do, but you are very much. Ah! And I love it. It's appointment viewing. It is, yeah, because you never know. We need you.

on the next Alex Honnold. Yes. Yeah. Oh, man, that was crazy. Did you watch that? I actually just fell on the clip of it, but I haven't watched it yet, but I literally just got back home and I was like, what happened? What?

So Free Solo. This is like, Mission Impossible. This is real? Like, it's like, what are we doing, Running Man? The old movie, it's like we're just going to watch someone die. So that's coming back with Glenn Powell, actually. I do believe this would be, it's out right now. Did you watch Free Solo with this guy?

Alex Honnold, Tony. Did you see Free Solo? Yeah, that was awesome. That was awesome. So there's a lot of those moments while you're watching this live. Like you got the free solo sweaty palms sick feeling while watching something happened on TV. And I guess we haven't talked to him.

We put the request in. We don't know if he's done a post-clim presser. We do not know if he's true. He's done that yet. But I would like to understand how hard he thought this was versus what he normally does, Tony. You know, and I think it would be something special to get you on the call for when he does this to the Eiffel Tower or something.

man, that'd be cool. I'd tell you, right there, I'm like, I wouldn't go by the window. Forget about being outside. I'm like, that's with you. I mean, that shows you how special and gifted he is, though. Like, we're talking probably about the best in the world, I'm guessing, right? Like, yes. So to me, it's like, with someone's so great, and you're the best in the world

at something, things get a lot simpler. And it's like, it's still ridiculously hard what he did for him, I guarantee. But for him, I mean, he just does things so perfect. it's like Tom Brady's like Tom Brady goat okay so Tom Brady goat in your eyes have you done like the best ball thrower though have you done that whole conversation as well what are your thoughts in history of ball and you go back like we got Joe Montana joining us in the next hour do you go back like Dan Marino's quick release with the way he was able to spin it do how deep does your judgment go and do you do top fives and things like that whenever you're just kind of watching ball yeah I love analyzing I mean I love learning part of the reason I talked to, you know, you talk about when you study the players and the coaches are the other week, but a lot of the time I'm asking questions I'll never use on air because I'm like, all right, why are you in a 4-I here? And like, I've learned so much stuff.

It's like you knew coverages and all the stuff in football when I played. But now I literally understand so much deeper level, you know, the reed technique in a corner and how to teach the hand placement for the detackle and, you know, the kickstep, the C, the A, B, clamp. It's like there's a ton of stuff. but I just feel like I love studying and I love learning and part of that was the mechanics of the throwing motion I love trying to perfect that

I mean I went a decade without ever missing a day of throwing because I felt like I had to catch up I was so behind as a youngster and I just I eventually remember when I figured I was like ooh I think I was starting and then it was like bam not to make the ball go right around it wanted and it was like the game got easier and I feel like

you study other guys Tom Brady had the best spiral and it's like the ball doesn't, it's almost not spinning. It just stays. And it's so pure and it looked effortless. And I remember just being like, wow. And then Aaron Rogers threw a ball one time at the Pro Bowl.

And I'm sitting there and that was the start of the year he comes in and his own nine or ten. And he gets up there and I'm like, okay, this is like C-Smith's so really fat. They're run down the field. It's like there's a rhythm to boom, boom, boom. And he throw it. And all of a sudden, he waits. He waits. He waits.

And I'm like, he's going to be 20 yards short on this dude. And then he goes, boom. And he launched his ball. And I swear, it goes up, up, up. And when it's supposed to apex and come down, it just kept going and going and going. The ball went like 80 yards in the air. And I remember just going looking over. And I was like, yep, I can't do that.

So that was the first time. There's like guys like that where it's like there's rare, right? You got that way far. Marino, everyone looked up to Marino. That was the other part. Montana was the best in that era. Elway's right there, too. Marino, I mean, legends.

But they all asked Steve Young one time. He's like, everyone kind of wanted to be Dan Marino in the mid-80s. It's like they actually looked up to him. The other quarterbacks in the league, it's like quarterbacks, they want to have what somebody else has. So Marino's right there with all them. I mean, I'm missing a bunch of guys. You got far.

Well, you're not an Italian, so Dan Reno. It was a great tour. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, you know, Italian. So you weren't necessarily just going to guarantee Marino spot, Montana spot in there. We learned that earlier in the show. Man, I couldn't have known that a long time ago.

I've been saying that a long. I appreciate your... It was weird. I appreciate your meticulous attention to detail. I think that alters how a lot of people will view maybe you calling a game. All these things are saying, you didn't miss a day for a decade throwing? You weren't worried about, like, pitch count? Anything like that?

No? People told me that when I first got in the NFL. I was like, I don't have time to pitch count. I won't be here. It's like you have to... You have to... I was like, I have sore arms stuff sometimes, but I'm like, It's more important for me to get better at throwing.

It's like my job is to put a ball somewhere where only my guy can get it and faster and on time. And it's like, I always had, you know, the Lord must be with instincts, right, the ability to like feel like right here. J-K-Watt loves that one. So to me it's like that's that six sense. You know what I mean? Where it's just like I didn't do anything for that. I just got that from the Lord. It's like you just sense and feel where people are and you can do that stuff.

But the part I couldn't do was this part. make that throw under duress and hit my guy because it's like I made the NFL because of instincts, but then it's like, hey, that was awesome. I mean, I missed it by five yards, but I got too fast to everyone. That's kind of my game. I needed to learn how to do that stuff

because I wasn't very good when I cursed that in the NFL. Hey, you got great though. You worked your ass off, which we respect and appreciate. Great football story, great American dream story, especially with the numbers that CBS is getting for these games in the afternoon. and that you're voicing over NFL history. Literally every single time you step on a mic, speaking of NFL history,

there's been a lot of evolution at the coaching position. Who's the right hire? Who's the wrong hire? Tone has a question for you about it all. Yeah, Tony, obviously a lot of head coaching hires are happening right now and everyone's judging them immediately, but you get to talk to head coaches literally every single week, offense, defense,

coordinators, everything like that. Do you care if head coach is an offensive mind or defensive mind? And is there anything that you, that like you, if you were interviewing people, that you would, that would be your singular focal point on what needs, a head coach needs to be. A great question. Now, I don't care. It's more about the person.

So I've had multiple owners, GMs, call over the years and for advice on stuff. And I remember when Mike McDonald came on, I said, I'm telling you, this is the best hire in this cycle. If anybody cares, okay? All right, tell me why. I'm like, well, number one, his defense, he runs exactly a similar style that I would if I was putting a defense in. In other words, we have five fronts. We have five coverages. We don't need a thousand.

But they all look the same. So you put the front, the back end, all lines, and then everyone gets to play multiple positions because they understand it in conception. So he teaches the concept of the defense. Now, here's your play, your position is what you do on this coverage or on this play. So he teaches the concept of it. And I was like, that's a great way of teaching.

And then on top of it, his instincts for the game. Like, this is one of the most underrated aspects is, okay, you're a head coach. culture. We need that, right? Who you hire matters as much as anybody. Okay. Are you calling the defense? Are you putting the defense in if you're a defensive guy? Because I kind of need you to. It's in my opinion. Whether you call it, I don't mind, but I do want you in your defense. As part of the reason you're getting you here. And some guys get hired as the head coach to hire the de-coordinator. It's his defense now. And I don't love that. And then that eventually fades away a lot. Then offensively, you know, it's a lot to be the head coach and the play caller. It takes a special person.

If you get that guy, you get that guy. It's Sean Payton. It's Sean McVeigh. It's Kyle Shannon. It's like we're talking the best of us, Andy Regan. I mean, we're talking about the top guys, but there's only five of them, probably in the world, six at any given time. And so that's the guy. But you've got to get the right guy who can understand how to fit these things together, to fit these coaches and the right team. Mike Brable's smartest team was hiring Josh McDaniels. that was literally as important as anything for the past.

It's not going to get this other guy here because that would have changed the entire compulsion thing. That's why Mike Rable was a great pick. He knew what to go get to help the other side. So you can hire either side. How about McDaniel's name, not even being up for any job? No, no, no, I've done that. I've done that.

We got Drake May up here. I like Vrabel. They're paying me good. New England's great. We've got a chance to really do something. I've done the head coaching thing. Definitely not this year, you know, turning it down. These fire coaches, McDermott,

just turned down basically any further interviews. McDaniel just signed up to be the offensive coordinator. How do you feel about that whenever coaches like take a year off after they get fired? We saw Peterson do that, right? He kind of took a trip around town before he ended up back at Jacksonville. Big Mike McCarthy obviously took a year off, joined us, went back in there. How do you feel about the fired head coaches? Like Stefansky gets right back into it with Atlanta.

Sala goes D.C. for a year. Now he's back into head coaching with Tennessee. What are your thoughts on the transition out of the head coaching role? Well, I think there's multiple fronts here. I think, number one, sometimes a break is needed, but also you get paid. You got to remember it's like they still got to pay that guy. So if he goes and takes this other job here, it's like that payment can be different. You never know.

That's part of it for some guys. Some guys can just get burned down a little bit. I do think it's important that you have some sort of positive media aspect to what they think of you. and definitely across the league where those guys who are getting those things have had some people who think they're good coaches, right?

Other guys, it's like, if you come out and have a really terrible season and it finishes, like, all right, he's not that good, right? That's what people think sometimes. It's like, well, sometimes there's things out of their control, injuries, aspects of who got drafted,

but McDermott will be picked up very quickly. I mean, he's outstanding. I feel like he's one of the best. Maybe sometimes you just need to hear a new voice. You know, that's part of it. Harba. How about Harba? just immediately going to the Giants.

Tomlin obviously moves on. There's a lot of crazy transition right now, man. There's 10 coaching jobs open. I mean, that's... I just never saw this coming. It's like, I could see one of them, right? It's like, okay, but to have... Tomlin, Harbaugh, McDermott,

before the season, I'm just like, that's impossible. Like, you're literally talking with like three of the top six, seven, which is in the league, and it's like, I don't know, I remember Annie Reid making the joke, like at the end of the air or something like are you coming back next year? You're going to retire. He's like, oh, I plan on coming back.

I mean, it's still having me. You never know in this league. And I was like, ha, ha, ha. And then I'm like, well, actually, this is all happening all over here. A week later, I was like, gosh, Andy does know this league pretty darn well. But I just think you got to hire the right coach.

And if you don't have one, you ain't beating these other coaches. They're too good. Yeah, some real talent out there, leading teams around the league, especially with how quick turnover was in Chicago in Jacksonville and New England. the expectation is going to be for you to be great quickly.

Okay, speaking of turnover, they had one in Dallas, obviously. Ty has the last question for you here, Tony. Yeah, Tony, I would assume very few people know Jerry Jones the way that you do, and I don't know what you guys' relationship is like, but what did you, there you go, great. So what did you think of kind of just all of the rhetoric surrounding him? Obviously, after he trades, Micah, you know, people are killing him and saying that he's trying to, you know, lose intentionally or whatever, and then later in the season, they get Quinn and Williams.

It seems like whenever DAC is healthy, he's a top five quarterback in the league, but they haven't been able to get the defense right. I think they're going on their fourth defensive coordinator in five years. Like, what do you think about all the moves that Jerry has made? And how close do you think the Cowboys are realistically to, I guess, you know, winning the division. It seems like winning the Super Bowl is still a pretty tall task for them. It's hard to have that kind of turnover every year.

I think what they try to do is they try to have a philosophy. of hiring ex-tech coaches as the decoordinator. And if you take a look, you had the Dan Quinn to the Zimmer and then to Iberfus. And I think that works with Dan Quinn so well that they kind of want to stick with that. And obviously it just didn't work out for multiple

reasons. I mean, it's hard for anybody to come in losing a Micah. But I can see how this is going to be a win-win for Green Bay in Dallas. I mean, if you weren't good enough to win the Super Bowl last year and you're about to sign mica, then all of a sudden, you're telling me, okay, I'm going to pay three guys in the top, two or three in the league at their position back, CD, you got my good, and then all of a sudden you got another receiver coming in now that you're going to have to pay. It's like, you're not going to really be able to

build this roster out fully. It's like, you know, they have lost, giving up a lot of running yards in the playoffs in your fest. I mean, sometimes that's a little too short to think of just that for a reason to trade. But I can see getting four or five guys, and that could actually equal, you know something there with Mike. I mean, you've got now two big guys in the middle. It's a lot of improvement. They've got another first rounder coming this year. They've got another one.

I mean, I just feel like they could end up getting three or four guys if you get the right coach in there. And I think they've got a good one this year. I think he's got a pretty good system. They really like him. But this team can turn around in a hurry. I mean, this is not a long one. This can be real fast.

I mean, now you've got Harbaugh in the divisions here, so it's going to be tougher. But I see Dallas, one or two players away. way with a scheme on defensive and making a run in the playoffs. Okay, I appreciate you. You basically said exactly what Jerry said, everything you just said right there. Can't stop, they got what they got,

we got what we got, we tied. Neither of us won the Super Bowl. They lost last season because of it, though, because you lost those games early, and it's like, you know, you were too far behind the eight ball to get back in it. So you did kind of lose out a season in some ways. Hey, Jerry's cool. Jerry's cool. We've never got, he's never given us

a chance. Jerry, we've always... We've been shooed out of the Jerry camp. Every time we put in a request, it's always just like bounced out the door, basically. We are... I'll talk to it. We saw him in Landman. We saw him in Landman.

What a scene. What a scene. That was unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's right up his alley. I mean, I was him and he was younger. He was all in that world. You try to make something with your family.

It's really what's all about. And he kisses him on a forehead, walks out of there. Unscripted. Unscripted. One take me through there. What a legend. You are as well, Tony. Keep doing your thing, man.

We appreciate it. We appreciate your contributions to ball. Not just ours, all of them. Golf, basketball, baseball, I assume. And anybody that's a D3 Heism, sorry, D1 AA Heism, I consider an absolute dog. And obviously, you've proven to be more than that. So, cheers, dude.

Good luck out there. All right. Thank you guys, and I'm a terrible baseball player. You know, I appreciate the plug, but that one's not true. The rest of them are obviously true. But that one is definitely not. But if you were to... Thank you guys.

Thank you for making my days more fun. I always look forward to watching. Keep it up. You're the man. Ladies of gentlemen, Italian Romo. Yeah. Tony.

Not Italian. Unbelievable. How do I not know that? I've been saying that a lot. I feel like somebody should have corrected me at some point. Tony? Today was the first time I heard you do that. Really?

Yes. Okay. I don't know if that's true. I wouldn't lie to you. I thought it was Romo Vecchio, though. Romo's too short to be Italian. I know, but it's just, Honey, you know, and then you drop that.

The Tony doesn't help. Yeah, exactly. Because I just assume Anthony. What is he then? He says a month. That's why I did, I did four different languages. I did four different languages. I believe his paternal grandfather immigrated from Mexico to St.

Antonio. And I believe, I want to say his dad's name is Romero Romo. I would like to say that's an incredible name. And I dropped Muchos Grasius first. You did. Bingo. Okay. So we got, we cleaned up at the end.

I apologize, Tony, for that. what a great time he knows of our existence that's wild we know of his too yeah we rode the way for them tony's always tony and i respect that and i feel like he is wildly intelligent if i had to guess yeah he was uh sending things back to us before giving an answer that uh usually i do to people and they don't notice and then you just kind of keep rolling he kind of broke you down yeah i'm like hey tony don't be doing our shit to us and this is kind of our thing tony you need to stop so i respect away his brain works which makes me probably tend to believe that selfishly that's why I liked the way he probably

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Cool. I feel like I had to get a lot of words in there because our mind has been blown. We learned a lot about Tony Romo in the last hour about how he prepares, how he dives into every single detail, how much he wants players to care as much as he cared about it. He threw every single day for a decade

so that he could become a better ball thrower for the good of his team, for the good of his career. He's an undraft guy, D3 guy. And then we also learned he does just kind of fly out there and kind of do his thing. He is always Tony Romo, which we appreciate and respect. I thought that was an Italian man. Mm-hmm. Tony Romo.

You could see how you would think that. Tony. I go to Paisan and gradats. We did the whole thing. No selling it. I'm like, excuse me. Come on, I just did the whole thing. Come on.

Not even a prego? I know that you know, yeah. There has to be some sort of something going on. No response. Then from the back, Nick Moroldo goes, Heads up. He's not Italian. Okay? Officer, I go, well, Tony, you're not Italian.

Turns out, we just looked it up. His name is so cool. Antonio Romero Romo. Wow. Antonio Romo is calling games. Okay, that's good for the league. Hey, Tony, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you, Tony.

Antonio is a sick name. Yeah. Talks at the table is here at Boston. or at Ty Schmidt. Ty, your thoughts on Tony Romo after a 45-minute conversation with him? I mean, just reaffirmed everything I already knew. I love him.

I would take a bullet for him. I wish he would have maybe slipped in a hard count because, yeah. Well, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, beggars can't be choosers. He gave us 45 minutes a goal, and I feel like we kind of bridged a foundation there. So I feel like that's not the last time

we're going to be seeing Antonio Romero Romo on this show. Antonio is a sick name. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Anthony, Julio Tone. That was a wild time back there in the first hour. What did you learn from Mr. Romo that we will move forward with now? Yeah, and fun fact, Anthony translates to Antonio in Spanish and Italian. So just so everybody knows that.

Wow. Okay. I said at the end of the last hour, there's people who we talk to, Tim Tebow being one of them, someone else, I think Fernando Mendoza, Tony Romo, they're just, they just are who they are all the time. And people think it's a gimmick when they're on TV and stuff like that. Nope, that's just who they are and I respect that. Yeah, I appreciate you being your true self. Nine-year NFL vet.

Darius J. Butler is here. He bucks Tony Rom on front of the program. I think that's a pretty cool little thing. I love that. Tony was awesome. It was a good player. Did you play against Tony Romo? I believe so.

I think was that game we played in Dallas? Fake punt. That was that? You sure? Pretty sure, yeah. The only way I remember is I threw an incompletion. I think Dak jumped on the field. I think he ended up to Zeke.

I don't know, but. I don't know either It could have been Tony Romo I don't know We gotta go back to see But I think I think that was We just ran it's highlight Was that 14 or 13

I don't know It was an incomplete Indy in Dallas I mean it was the time Did you guys lose 42 to set Did you guys lose 42 to 7? We didn't need all that 42 to 7

It was Tony Yeah Tony Romo He threw four touchdowns Damn I remember He got the ball at the 16 for his first drive

We lost 4 yards in the first three downs. We go out to punt. Fourth and 14. Yeah, I think it was fourth and 14, our first drive. We go at the punt. They show Orlando Scandric, I believe. He either shows or ends up running out.

They show hot, right? So Gunner left wide open. We've practiced this. I think they actually went back and counted like 67 times or something like that throughout the season, 70 times. Like, if they show, if you have a punter who can throw, if the guy's wide the fuck open right there. That's easy.

We're just checking Zebra, Zebra, which is a zone protection. I move up to 11 yards, basically so I get the ball quicker. Everybody's just dropping straight back and holding, basically, and it's just an immediate throw for a first down right at the outside.

So excited it's happening. In Jerry World? Oh, my God. You never know when this is coming. You have no idea when it's coming. First series, first punt. Guy shows, yes. Holy shit.

That big-ass jumbo trams right above me. Are we either hitting that thing or we're fucking throwing a pass? This is an incredible time. go ahead, spin that. No laces, I don't think. Drop it. It feels pretty good.

We end up not completing the past. Tony Ramon comes out, they score, and then it was just, people would say that exact failure of a fake punt is what led to us getting demolished. Yeah, started before that. We came out, defense three and out, and Jarrell Freeman tackle, third down, boom, gets up a quick, boom, point FU, flag, automatic first down. They go down and do whatever. Oh, no.

They actually scored on their first. four. They scored touchdowns on their first four. Yeah. Okay. So our first, so they got the ball first, it sounds like. Got the ball first, three and out penalty, first down, they go on the score. Okay, then we three and out, loss of four yards, fake fun failure, in our own, in our own red zone. It was over. They score, yeah, that thing was 14 zip before. One play 19 yards was there next, yeah. Okay, so it was under 19. Yeah, I knew we lost yours. I thought it was a little bit more.

Miles Austin? Which touchdown? Which one are we asked? Which touchdown? Oh, that was to Des. The second drive was to Des. Yeah, so it was a, that's what I remember for going down there. But then you got luck. That's how you got luck. Terrence was boom.

Congrats to Tony Rombo, though. He was a big win over the Colts that day. He literally didn't have to do anything. And the game was over. He was 18 of 20 for 218 and four touchdowns. Four touchdowns. People forget. He got a good.

Masterclass. How were you ever going to stop it? Yeah, he was out. Then he had to, uh, damn, forget his. then he played a buffalo, long hair, short, white, wide out. Cole Beasley. Yes, Beasley, Animal, Beasley, Williams, Dez.

Beasley's a rapper, I believe. Yeah, a good rapper. Witten's still around at the time. Yeah, Witton had seven for 90 to touch him. Yeah, that's a good day out of Witt. Everybody on our team had a touchdown. We get it. It was a long day.

Long trip back. Dress, full cowboy, obviously, had a riding jacket on the whole thing. And then first time I'm on the field, his failure leads to a touchdown immediately afterwards. Just to throw the football, sounds like. You knew what you knew was coming, maybe. I mean, you had a sick day, though. I was one of my guy. He had a long as 61, the average of 47.

You probably are a player. You probably got a part of the game ball now. What's Chuck Borg? I mean, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who I mean, what's that? D. Butt, everybody needs a real. What is it? What are you doing all week? 42-7.

I mean, that's a way. Personal foul on third Don, gives him a first time. The refs decided that game. Sounds like he doesn't have control of the boys. If that's what. back in luck both through the ball 22 times that game. This is how I was dressed too. Yeah, Bruce found fun.

Dress. Fucking luck. Fake boat was the reason why we were. You wear that on the plane ride home? Yeah, put that shit back on. I like that. I think I left the hat because hats are trapped to travel with. Especially those ones.

That was the jacket that was long and had to split if I was going to hop on a fucking horse. Yeah, like the night rider. Whatever. Oh for one. Passing that on that particular day. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, He's a band who's probably at great memories down there.

He's a Super Bowl there. He won a Super Bowl there. Super Bowl champion, college football national champion. Rider Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. They're dressed like an asshole. Have an incompletion that leads immediately to a touchdown in route. And I'll tell you what you're going to change what you act every once in. You know what I mean, H.

Yeah, I guess you do. But that's what I always wonder when I see these guys wearing crazy like Halloween costumes or just, you know, some kind of, you know, unique situation going in after you lose. do you sit there in your locker and think for a couple minutes? Like, okay. Put the old duster back on in the cowboy hat? It's called a duster. You know the name of the jacket.

Thank you for telling me that. That is the name of the jacket. It is called a duster. I decided to leave the bolo in the bag. Hat was left in the locker room. Duster did go on and cowboy did walk home. You sound like you were the same as everybody else. One suit?

Yeah. One suit on way out there. One suit on the next morning, two game. One suit. same way home. One outfit, whole time. You think guys are bringing backup outfits when they dress like assholes walking, sorry? Definitely. Fashionable gentlemen who are expressing their, whatever the hell they're allowed. You're a lot of dress out of hell you want. And if you think it looks cool, sweet. I'm happy for you. Some of you look like assholes. You know you look like assholes,

which is, I think a part of the fashion thing. But that's us calling it. They don't, they don't think my opinion on fashion is worthy. I think they think it's sweet. Like, hey, fashion, I'm an artist. I'm expressing myself. I think that's what I think. Some people want to look like an ass. That's what I'm saying. Mac Hollins. He wants to. He wants, hey, look at me.

It's part of it. Yeah. If you go out there, back it up. Good. It's good. On the way out, he wearing shoes on the way out, you think? No, no. He actually went into the locker room, I believe, took his shoulder pads off and his shoes

and then came back out for the celebration after the game. I respect Mac Hollins. He was doing this in Buffalo, goes up to New England, does the same exact thing, and has a couple of massive plays for the New England Patriots. For the New England Patriots and big time moments. But yeah, they have to have different outfit for way out. I would assume. I hope so.

I don't know. If the coach sees you put in your accessories back on after you get smoked by 40 points, I can understand if I was that, Coach, I might get pissed off. I see you putting your bolow tie back on in the mirror, you know, like taking some assistant coach's space. We lost by 35, not 40. Okay. Coach, not at that. Coach, do you know, like, how much lunch I have between the old pendant and the rope in the bottom?

How many, like six inches? What are you like? What is standard Bolo operating procedure, coach? Chuck Jish, Pat. Your throw is the reason why we lost. Take that fucking thing off. I'm telling you, man. That would be cool if we complete that.

We complete that? I might win that game. Maybe we got down it. Saw Jarrell Freeman the other day. What a great name to bring up. He was a CFL legend. Oh, yeah. I forget where he went to school.

Somewhere in Texas, a purple place. Oh, yeah. Small school. Stephen F. Austin. That might have been. been it. Is that a purple place? Yep. Yeah. Okay, so I think that is where he went incredible work right here. I think

that is where he went to somewhere no one that would ever know. It's called Mary Harden Baylor. Is it purple? Oh, MHB? Let's see. Maybe not. Maybe it is purple, yep. It is purple? Yep, the Crusaders, yeah. I wouldn't have got that one.

Okay, I feel pretty good. I thought they're G3. He's a good shot. Anyways, he goes and plays in the CFL. He plays in the CFL. plays great in the CFL Grigsson finds him out of the CFL signs him to pretty long deal at the age in which he is at he comes to Indianapolis

the guy's a machine great football he was like I think he hurt his foot maybe I don't know if it was a foot injury that might have been anger something happens in injury we had him locked up for his whole career though basically so like all his good days he left and went to Chicago and played oh yeah he plays with good ball of Chicago too because we had him locked out he was outperforming his country

Oh, yeah. We had him, like, locked down for a pretty good amount of time contract-wise. And, like, his first year there, fresh out of the CFL, he just, like, how did nobody else know this guy existed? It's kind of, like, the thought. But then we had him for a long time. And I think he was outperforming his contract, like, by a large, large margin. He did go up to Chicago.

I remember watching him run around. I just saw him the other day. Jack. Yeah. He was undersized, but he was strong as shit. He was hat and hands. He would play to run. Like I said, he was a smaller linebacker, so you wouldn't think it.

But he would strike folks. and he could cover too. Where'd he go to school? Mary Harden, Baylor. What is that? The D3 school. They actually beat Bones team in the D3 National Championship when he was a senior. And Coach Pugano did text in and say he knew exactly who it was as well.

Shout out Chuck Pagano. What? I'm not a hundred percent short. Which one? Which part did he know? The flag. No, he knew the school. Oh, he knew this one.

Of course. Okay, because there's a lot of things he could have known. Because he canceled, by the way, Hot Route to Gunner. Going forward right after that. Oh, okay. He said we're never doing that again. Just change the corner. That's a good old coach.

That was one of my guys. I was not happy about it. I was not happy about it. I remember. Yeah, I actually had a full conversation with Coach. We've gone. So one guy drops a pass out of what, 67 we did this.

We can't get another guy in there. We're just going to let somebody sit out there wide open. And I'm going to have to stand back here, me as a human, as a football player. They grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And there's going to be a wide open guy right there. We're not going to throw the ball to because one guy to, that's exactly.

That's exactly what. Exactly what I'm Shane. That's where, yeah. We'll put a wide receiver. I'm like, I think that's bullshit. I think that is, this is professional football. Don't we just, aren't we going to try to win a game that is clearly an advantage for us? No, we're not doing what happened last time again.

I know we're not doing that. So if you have any ulterior motives or alternative ideas for us not to have that happening, it's like, this is bullshit. And I felt terrible for the guy. Guy was an incredible player for us. Great special teamers for us. Great football player, great dude. Everything was like great about them.

That happening, though, changed a lot. Anyways, there were some things that happened in Championship Week. and that DB might have a little hindsight on AJ. You know, we wanted to do a little something different this week with everything DB. We wanted D.B. We wanted D.S.J. Butler to potentially, and I think it was his initial idea of, hey, there's some things that I think could have been done to stop some of these plays that took place. So he said, why don't we do a little hindsight defensive coordinator, and then boom, all of a sudden you got Monday morning, D.C. With D.B.

Happening on Tuesday, you know, because normally the Monday morning quarterback stuff happens on Monday after the games, but he couldn't get here because it's snowing again. So it's Monday morning, D.C. with D.B. going forward, but this one's happened on Tuesday. It's the first ever one. Okay. So we just need people to understand that this would be normally happening yesterday, but planes just weren't able anywhere in the old.

That makes sense. Okay, so it's Monday morning, D.C. with D.B. on Tuesday morning this time, but not in future times. It's the debut of a new 70 where we're going to get smarter on the defensive end. Peeba, what do we need to do? It was beautiful, first of all, flying. in seeing all that snow to graham sure it was shitty to deal with but it was amazing seeing it coming in from the air uh if you run a replay foxy this touchdown that we've seen from jackson

smith and jigba lines up in the back field and you think watching this game how to hell just the best wide receiver in football one of the best wide receiver in football get wide open the critical point in the game but this is kind of how it happens we go to the all 22 uh view and i've seen some great breakdowns on this play if you watch it up initially the alignment he's going to line up away from the pastoral. Can I get the wide copy from the sideline? Yep, boom, perfect. So he lines up initially away from the pasture. So keep your pause. Right now, the passing strength would be to Sam Darno's left. You got Rashid Shaheed, a wide receiver. You got Cooper Cup, a wide receiver. So that's the passing strength. Now, in any coverage as a defense,

you have to know where the best wide receiver on the football field is. That's Jackson Smith and Jigba here. Right now he starts off to the right side of formation. You let it run. He motions over to the left side of the formation. Pause it here. The safety is circled. The coverage they are running is quarters. That's the base coverage called in from the defensive coordinator. Now, in every quarter's coverage, an adjustment is made when it's a bunch.

And if you look at the wide receivers, once again, all three of them are on the same side. One, two, three, inside the numbers and the hash. So that's basically a bunch. The adjustment is box. So that's the two low defenders, the nickelback and the linebacker, and the safety in the cornerback to that side with the wide receivers. That's who's going to be running the bunch adjustment. So if you leave it, pause, the two underneath, you go low inside, low outside, low outside,

deep inside for the safety in the corner. Now, I'm circling that backside safety because right now the adjustment I will make it. Now, this is Monday morning. This is Tuesday morning. Hindsight, hindsight, hindsight. Now, so this is for the Patriots to be looking at, for instance. Now, the adjustment will be shove or push, and that's basically telling the front side defenders, everybody over there to the passing trip, because that's where all the best players are,

the best past schedules are. Hey, I'm coming to your side. I'm shoving over there. Cornerback to my left, you lock up. You should be able to handle that tight end. And the dimebacker, you should also be able to handle the running back. So right now, the safety desk circle, that's the guy to keep an eye on because he would be the one that can help. Now, if you let it run a little bit, you'll see the route concepts play out.

Pause it. Now, Cooper Cup, he's going to the flat. So he knows he's going to occupy that low flat defender. He's going to take that flat defender with his route. Going to go out to the flat and then come back inside. So now you have two deep defenders, also landman on the inside, but I want you to focus on the two deep defenders now. Rashid Shahid, he's going to run a post.

Let it run a little bit. Pause it. Now, he's going to eat up the cornerback and the safety, because the corner has to respect the vertical coming right at him. The safety has to respect the deep inside breaker. Without that other safety pushing over and helping, because if he does that, that cornerback to the front side, he can get wider and now he can take Jackson Smith and Jigable, who's going to be running his

corner route from the backfield. Now, he lines up in the backfield, but obviously he's not a running back. You have to treat him like a wide receiver. So right now you have the best wide receiver with football wide-ass open because you didn't make that pre-snap adjustment. And if you let it run from the very beginning, just let it all play out. Right now the communication will sound like this. Hey, I'm the nickel to the right. Nickel right. Okay, box, box, box. Backside safety circle. Hey, shove, shove, I'm coming over. So now everybody's, everybody's, on the same page of how we're going to run this coverage post-call. So the call comes in from the coach, but now it's professional. So this is the biggest difference with playing like high school,

collegiate, and then the NFL level. When you hear like, hey, be a pro, this is the pro of it. Now, do the players have the freedom to do this? This is the things you have to work on Monday through Saturday. You can't just do this on the field. We have to work on this because everybody's kind of, we got to have to be on the same page when this happens because they're having to so fast. motion right box box box shove shove so that communication is made to six kitchens he's shoving over to give those db some help and now we have five bodies on three wide receivers as opposed to four AJ AJ AJ yeah what's lamb man saying in the middle of this and obviously this is all Monday morning okay this is hindsight we understand the outcome in what jackson smith and jigba is not going over to

an actual bunch he's just going to create one in the backfield which is obviously a different alignment. How often are boys making changes there? How often is everybody kind of changing adjustments? I think it changes a lot. And Landman, you're aware of where JSN is pre-snaping. You're already alerting. Hey, if he goes in motion, this is what, we're going to go to

Box. And then Landman's saying, you'd say box in and out. I got inside, you got outside, you know that. But if you watch JSN from the snap, if you run it a little bit, no one really has their eyes on him until it's too late and he's almost in the end zone. Like, look, I don't even, maybe the playside corner is peeking on him, but watch, like,

Landman's going, his eyes are gone, right to Cooper Cup, and then look, JSN, there's not really eyes on him right now. Yeah, and that can't be the case. Just the same way for Seattle, when they're on defense, every coverage, regardless of what's called, we have to know if I'm Seattle on defense, where Pooka Naku is. That's going to affect our coverage, or Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, whoever that receiver is.

Everybody has been on the same pace, so we can't just treat Jackson Smith and Jigginable, like he's a normal running back in this concept. And we talk about it. This is in hindsight now, but this is the NFC championship game. And they've been running quarters, you know, the Rams have been running quarters all season long. The Seahawks know that. Cooper Cup knows it.

Sam Darner knows it. Clint Kubiak knows it. So they're going to have routes built in, especially in the red area, to attack the rules of the coverage. So let's talk about that. Can we talk about that, please, with how genius Kubiak is? You'd go back to the beginning, I guess, if you want to show the eye candy of the motion. So all these routes, go ahead and run it. This thing's a...

a beautiful box here. How come everybody else can have the ones without the lines of the time? I don't know. We saw it as well this past weekend. You know, everybody, it seems like we should be able, we need to do that. But this whole thing, this is all on purpose. Everything's on purpose, right, by this offense. So whenever you're talking about like a quarterback or like somebody making a transition from college to the NFL, there's a massive difference in the mentality, the mindset, the amount of information you need to have, right? And obviously, this is one of those checks that could have happened in real time. But they're running this all on purpose, right?

Everything is schemed up. Cooper Cup is literally taking this guy out. They are scheming somebody to be wide-ass open, let alone the best player on the field. But this is all on purpose. And the quarterback has to be on time with everything. Like how is it? This is all on purpose.

The motion to get him, because if he just comes and lines up there, now you have more time to make those adjustments. It sounds good? Yeah, there's the mic right there. Okay, so you have more times to make these adjustments. Or if they just come out in a traditional bunch, you have times to make, hey, box with the shove, all these different things. When he starts here, what motion does, motion creates communication

for the defense, whether that's verbal or nonverbal communication. So that's pointing and talking, that's talking, and the communication can't just happen on Sunday afternoon and Sunday night. The communication has to happen Monday through Saturday. This is practice. This is meetings. This is walkthroughs. We all have to be on the same page or how we're going to, because we know the weaknesses of our coverage as well. We see quarter beaters. If you play cover three, they're going be covered three beaters you play cover two it's going to be covered two beaters we all know these different things so when that late motion happens it creates all that different motion so right now if you just continue to watch this safety he's going to be covering grass essentially like that's one of

your best defenders that's one of your best athletes on the field and right now he's covering the hash marks when darius williams he should be able to handle a tight-in now if that's a dip if that's grunt if that's tony gonzalez if that's travis kelsey now maybe you adjust it differently, but when it's, you come into a game, honestly, in NFL, you come in, AJ, I'll tell you this too, certain guys got to beat us. You know, Rashid Shahi, he got to beat us on our own defense today. Whoever, Cooper Cup, he got to beat us today. Jackson Smith and Jigba can't beat us.

That can't be the, that's the game record. So you have to have that adjustment. And you start off with the box, you're going to have four on three, but with that shove call, you'll have five on three. If I was a defensive coordinator, corners would kind of be my base coverage because you have so many different options. that you can massage the defense with to be in the right situation. These offensive guys are genius.

This is the offensive genius stuff. This is the designing a place. They know what you're in and, oh, yeah, we're going to draw up the perfect play for that situation. And it's interesting that, you know, whenever a defensive coach gets hired as the head coach, he finds that with Kubiak and teams it up with the defense that he has. It's like Seattle's special.

And I'm surprised that the Rams didn't have these adjustments built in because this is why I- Face them three times. Yeah, this is why Chris Shula, you know, was getting the hype or probably still is getting the hype that he is getting, beginning a head coaching job because of his defense. But when you're playing these things, once you get to kind of Thanksgiving, like teams kind of have their identities, all offenses have their identities, defenses have their identities and coverage. You've heard Romo talk about with McDonald's like, hey, it's going to be this many looks and it's going to be five coverages. And if you have, it's one more here with Cooper Cup again. So now all the speed is to his right.

All the past catches are to the right. But I'm going, hey, just imagine all the, all there. Avengers over here, right? All the good guys are over the past catcher on the same side. Once again, every coverage, we need to identify where 11 is. So now this is a cover three. It kind of looks like a cover four shell, but that top safety, he's going to rotate down. It's going to be a covered three. And now, so every, this is third and three. So down in distance important as well. So third and three, if I'm calling the zone coverage, we have to match these routes. We can't just drop back to a zone and give up that easy completion. AJ talks about

all the time. We all have a built-in no-cover zone, which is five yards or less in zone coverage. That goes out the window in third and three. Now we have to attach to bodies at the sticks. And watch this play out. Cooper Cup, he's lined up at number one. He's just going to sit in the hole between these two zone droppers. Now 37 late, you don't have another threat out there. You can't be covering the five-yard line. You have to squeeze to number 10 to Cooper Cup. And then the inside linebacker, you're dropping and you're looking at the quarterback. So you're going to obviously start off with 11 with Jack Smith and Jigba, but then you've got to bounce back and try to get in that window.

And you have to anticipate these breaks and these routes. It's 30 and 3. If this was first and 10, maybe I can understand it. But the thing about zone coverage, you have to read quarterbacks break on intentions. And the reason you break on intentions because you are able to rally and tackle. This should be a catch and a tackle at the 5-yard line. Maybe you get the first down. And you'll see it from the back copy, Sam Darno,

through his progressions. So a part of it comes down to the quarterback as well. Just watch his eyes and his helmet. He's going to start to the defense's right and then work his way back to Cooper Cup. And while he's doing that, you can watch 48. You see Landman, but you also see 48 coming to the screen and go towards in Jigba. And then once he does that, he hits Coupe right in the gap. And boom, it's a wide.

Sam Donald, baby. Sam Donald played an unbelievable game. Clint Kubiak, I think he called it an unbelievable game. He didn't call a safe game. Like, he played this game aggressive. You're going with the MVP caliber quarterback on another side with Matt Stafford. You can't come into the game. Even with as good as their defense is, hey, the defense is going to win it.

Just don't turn the ball over. He came and he was aggressive from the first quarter all into the final drive. When he threw that, when he caught the boot for Sam Donald. Sam Darno played unbelievable. I think, you know, 340 plus yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Great play calling and great execution from Sam Darno. And it helps having one of the best. white receivers in the field, I mean, in the league.

And then Cooper Cup as well, one of the smartest wide receivers, who I know his hands are kind of all over these game plans and these route concepts, you know, especially downhand the red zone, the scoring area for the offense. Hey, Cooper Cup, allegedly, you know, it's being talked about. Oh, yeah. The Rams told him he's all washed up, me. You know, maybe he was told it might be time. Allegedly, this is what's being reported or being talked about.

Obviously, until Cooper Cup openly talks about it, which, you know, you never. never know. You never know. But he, whenever he was with Matthew Stafford, it was like, oh, there's another quarterback at wide receiver. You got another quarterback of wide receiver. So he won the quadruple crown. Yes. Not just yards, not just catches, not just touchdowns, but also yards after catch in one season with Matthew Stafford. So much, though, that they started a podcast together called the Diamond Nine or something like a podcast. And everything was like good to go. And then the story started coming out about Cooper Cup. It's like, what does he do? Oh, well, he also was like a coach in the wide receiver room, an extra coach.

He knows exactly what everything kind of calls for. And I think whenever you see these plays laid out by D-Bud, it's like every move is surgical. It's like everything's on purpose. Oh, he ran an in-rout there instead of an out-rout. Well, he did that strictly to kind of occupy the corner that can't make the play on the deep ball here to Jackson Smith and Jigba. It's like these super genius offenses that have the right guys in the right spots

can be unbelievable. Well, do the Patriots defense, are they built to kind of handle this? I guess that would be the follow-up question. Is like the Patriots defense built for this type of offense, or are we going to have a good little joust here? Yeah, once you get to this point in the season, you know, the players, the coaches, they're going to make plays. It's just going to come down to critical situation.

It's going to come down to the red area. Can we make one play? Can we create a turnover? Two-minute situation. We saw him operate and make a big pass down the middle of the JSCN. I think they have the players to match up. They also are smart. and they also can do different things.

And they have game records on every level, but especially on that front level. Like Milton Williams, I don't care what you call. At any point in the game, him or Barmore, can just wreck the entire play. Regardless of what's a run play, a play action pass, whatever it is, you can wreck the play. And we saw it with Philadelphia Eagles against the Chiefs last Super Bowl.

Patrick Mahomes is one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. Andy Reid, one of the greatest play calls we've ever seen. But if you can't block them up up front, And then we also can have seven guys on the back end watching the quarterback. That's an incredible weapon. So I definitely think the Patriots have the personnel in the coaching to get it done. And then I think the same both offenses. We haven't seen the best of the Patriots offense.

Honestly, in my opinion, the weather has been a shit show throughout their entire run. They played great defenses. They just did what need to be done to win the games. So I think that'll be kind of an advantage because now the Seahawks haven't seen kind of of their best stuff for the last few weeks. So I think this would be a great game. It'll come down to the last drive like a lot of these Super Bowls do. And the Patriots, I might be wrong here, but as far as, like, locked down corners go,

like the San Francisco 49ers and the Rams don't have like a Christian Gonzalez. And who knows if, you know, Gonzo will follow JSM, but that would be like just kind of pontificating about what the game could be. The JSN versus Christian Gonzalez matchup would be one of those like Super Bowl-esque, legendary, you know, best on best. hopefully that's what we get, but you never know. They make it so hard. Even with Puka, like, they make it so hard to be like,

hey, we have a great cornerback. You just follow 11. If you look at like. Coming out of the backfield, D. But, yeah, they're up everywhere. He's back in bunches, everything. He's motioning. He's in bunches.

He's on the top of it. He can out wide. Like, he's everywhere. So it's hard to call a play of your coordinator to get that Christian Gonzalez on JSM matchup. And it's great by offense. Offense started doing this, you know, I would say the last decade or so.

It used to be, hey, our best guys out here at X. Like, try your best to stop, or he plays the Z. Now you start to see, you know, Jamar Chase, Justice Jefferson, put all these guys, they play all over the field, so it's harder to kind of game play for them. It's harder to kind of game platform. It's harder to get hands on them. And, you know, you're going to have situations where the best wide receiver in the field is going to be matched up with safeties and linebackers.

And nobody every once in a lot of here, which I think is what you were saying. They got them in the back field. They got them lined up everywhere. Kubi X's a genius, it seems like. I guess he is. But the thing is, okay, What's your going to be your answer? We saw that JSN coming from the back field.

We motioned to it to beautiful play. Now we know the Patriots is going to work on it. You'll walk through, you'll work on it in practice, make sure you don't get beat with that in the Super Bowl. But they're going to have some kind of wrinkle off of that, some kind of look off of that that I think in the Super Bowl would be sweet to see how they counter. I'm excited for the battle. I'm excited for Sam Donald.

I'm excited for Sam Donald to see what he can do against his Patriots defense in the Super Bowl. You know, there's some people that think the Seahawks are just going to kill the Patriots. A lot of people I've seen. Yeah, why is that? I don't. I don't know. I honestly, I don't know either. A lot of it has to do, I think, with Debutt says. The weather hasn't been great, but like if you haven't really

watched the games and, you know, after the game you're just looking at the box score, it's like they scored 16 points, they scored 10 points, and then you watch the Seahawks and Sam Donald's throwing for 360 yards, JSN's putting up these big numbers. It's like, I don't care how how good New England's defense is,

Sam Donald is him. They're going to beat the shit out of these guys. I think that's probably where it comes from. The ticket demand for this game is obviously high. The average resale price is currently over $10,000. That's out there in Santa Clara, California, too, which I think you're probably going to have to pay a lot for a lot of things out there. So 10,393 is the average resale ticket price.

You can get $250 off. Boom. That's huge. We're trying. Who goes to these things? Brings it down to a cool 10 grand. A little bit more, yeah, it might be. You're right.

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Because they'll tell you if it's a bad deal. There's a little red dot next to it. They kind of scale their ticket. They have AI scan the rest of the Internet, and then they scale it, whether it's like a good ticket for a good price or if it's a bad price for the ticket. But if you need it, it's here. Might be a lot of red dots for this one. Feels like there, but if there's no other better prices in.

This is a good deal. They do it for the market. They don't do it on what they think it should be. Correct. So on that note, shout to Sea Geek. We appreciate them. Joining us now as a man who's a three-time Super Bowl MVP, four-time Super Bowl champion.

An absolute stallion of a Pisano from Western Pennsylvania. a man who's synonymous with the 49ers brand and 49ers rise, which is going to be a docu-series on AMC debuting this Sunday called Rise of 49ers. Stories are going to be told by everybody that you can think of from the 49ers of the past. And even Tom Brady pops him because he was a season ticket holder of that particular team. And that's where he developed a love of ball in this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Montaella. Yeah, Joe!

Thank you, guys. Pat. How are you, Joe? Dude, I'm great. How are you? We've been missing you in Linae, though. Last couple of years. You weren't at the top of the path up there.

I know. Have you already been out there? Yeah, we just, we went over right after Christmas and through the new year. Took all the kids and grandkids. So, yeah, we missed you. All right. Send my mana to the family, to the Montana.

Send my mana to the Montana's. Okay. I will certainly see you guys. My wife and I will bring baby girls. back. We'll hopefully have another whenever we make it over there. So we'll see you, obviously, on an island that we should not talk about because nobody goes there because it's so small. But boy, it is a beautiful place with incredible people. Let's talk about a beautiful place that you know very well. Santa Clara, obviously the home now, but that San Francisco area,

home to a lot of incredible football history, obviously with the NFL. This rise of the 49ers thing with AMC, how does this come together and how excited were you to kind of take a trip down memory lane? And how was the experience as a whole reliving the glory days, with those 49ers days? Well, it's always fun, you know, looking back at the things that happened and where when I first got there, we were two and 14. You know, it wasn't like this was something that just was handed over to us. And so they had to kind of work our way up.

And once Mr. D, the Mr. Debarlow and Bill Walsh, he let Bill have the reins. And I think you could see him in those first couple of years, the team he was trying to build. as some there was some Saturdays, we would go out the door for a home game, and there'd be like 50 people in the parking lot coming in for a workout. So you could see he didn't have the people he wanted at that point. But they both were something special. Okay, well, we're thankful we're going to get to relive it. The San Francisco 49ers current team is dealing with a little electric issue,

potentially allegedly. Big time. But on that note, great squad, seemingly always in it, always there. but instead the NFC West is being represented by the Seattle Seahawks. What are your thoughts on the state of the current Niners? And what are your thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks team that might be at the beginning of this whole thing with McDonald at the helm? Well, you know, with the 49ers, I just think it was one of those years where I was surprised how far they got considering how many injuries they had over the, through this whole season. But, you know, they still played well.

You know, they need a big play guy on the outside, I think. and although they made the best of what they had to deal with both offensively and defensively. But Seattle's, well, they had their number. They had the 49th number this year. I mean, they shut them down. And you look at Seattle and I saw a little bit of the clip earlier. And I think one of the things, when I look back on how the cowboys and kind of dealt with Jerry, I think you do the same with Seattle's guy.

You just don't let him beat you. Make somebody else beat you. And, you know, the Cowboys, when people could beat the Cowboys too, what do they do? They take Michael Irvin out of the game. They take their tight end, and then they play the running back. And some wide receiver you could, nobody can name still today on the other side. And, you know, the game's a little different though today. Hard to double guys.

But when they beat the 49ers, they put a guy in Jerry's face and a guy behind him. And so they're going to make somebody else beat him. And I think that's what you have to do to this guy. He's just way too talented. He's just can't let him get behind you. He's young too, Joe. I mean, he's only getting started in this entire thing. And then Sam Darnold, obviously he's getting his second chapter, Joe.

This is big for the Sam Darnold kind of career arc as a whole. Oh, heck yeah. I'm all for Sam Darnold. The things that he's been through, the places that he played, the games that he's won, and even here in San Francisco before, he got to Minnesota. I mean, come on. I saw the stat the other day on Sunday.

He went 28 games in the last two teams he was with. And he's now getting another chance here, and he's doing the same thing. And I'm pulling for him. I'm a NFC guy most of the time anyway, but I'm all about saying. He's a good guy, good player. I'm happy for him.

He's on his superhero, especially if he can knock off the news, England Patriots who are back. AJ has a question about that, Joe. Yeah, Joe, obviously Drake May and the New England Patriots and what Mike Brable was done in his first year, it's something special. When you watch Drake May, I guess,

what do you see? What are you most impressed by when you see this guy on the field? So I think both these guys have a lot of similarity, and they are not forcing balls. They know they have a good defense, and you got a great defensive player as a head coach.

and it's okay to punt. It's okay. And don't worry about that part. Don't try to make plays if you don't have to. And there will be points in the game that you might have to, but both these guys are under control. And he runs the ball well too. So I just think that he's playing within himself,

and that's all you have to do. You're coming to the Super Bowl. You don't have to do anything different than what got you there. And, you know, this obviously is big part of this game. Is that hard to do, Joe? Joe, was that tough to do as a quarterback to not get too jacked up for the Super Bowl? No, not really. Bill Walsh kept you pretty down to earth.

He would do things during the week. And he would, I mean, like the first Super Bowl you went to, he dressed up as the bellman as we got off the bus. And he tried to take my luggage. And I didn't know it was him. And the guy kept grabbing my luggage. I go, no, no, no, I got it. I got it. And finally I turned around.

It was Bill. as we got off the bus. And he, I don't know, he just did those kind of things during the week and little things that just would kind of take the pressure off of you. Okay, hold on, Joe. I don't think I knew enough about Bill Walsh. I know his names talked about as being a great coach. This guy had a lot of moxie.

Sounds like this guy had a lot of moxie. We're dressing up as Belman as the big of it. I mean, we played, we played Danny Marino and the Dolphins. Danny had a tremendous year that year. And we went back into the locker room after warming up, and it's always a long time before you come back out. And so Bill was laying on one of the equipment bags in the middle of the locker room.

It was dead quiet. And he just started talking, oh, my, Dan Marino. Nobody can stop Dan. I mean, he's thrown for 40 touchdowns and whatever, all his stats. But just out of the blue. And then we were playing in our first Super Bowl again. We're on the last bus and we're stuck because the vice president is coming. And we're sitting at like 500 yards away.

And Bill stands up on the bus and says, hey, don't worry. I know we're getting close to the game and it's close now. But don't worry. The game started. And we have two equipment managers, Chico and Bronco said, so Chico scored and Bronco kicked the extra point. I didn't know any of this. I assume that a lot of this is going to be in this dokey series on AIDS.

Yeah, I think a lot of it's in there. So it's some fun things that people probably don't know. But he just had that way about him. I got through an interception in the end zone one of the first times. And I knew I was in trouble when he started doing this thing right here. As I came off, I used to go right to him first and then to the phone. And he said, what was that? And I said, I think they called that an intercept.

coach he said try not to let that happen again would you i said okay i'm never going to him again first i'm going to the phone first let him cool down i mean that was about as he did most of the time as he got but he also yeah he just had some feel about him like i came off the field there's a photo that you'll probably see in the documentary where we're both on the ground and everybody's saying like we're drawing plays about i was so exhausted at that point i i said okay just give me a minute, coach, I'll be right up. I need a rest. He goes, no, don't worry, I'll come down to you. And we, we had our discussion. Yeah, there you go. Wow. We had our discussion right there down on the field. And, I mean, he just, he just had a great feel for the players. And we, I mean,

first, we never wore pads. People wanted to come. You don't wear pads in, in training camp. No, we don't wear pads during the week either. So, everybody wanted to come play for us at that point in time. So, but he had a different way about him. And he was very special. We lost him way too soon. Yeah, sounds like it. And I obviously didn't know enough about him. I knew his name, a great coach.

I didn't know his demeanor. I didn't know how he won about doing his business. I just assumed old school football coach because the amount of success in the time. I had no idea. This guy was an absolute legend. I caught laying on the equipment box talking shit to the defense. Yeah. Oh, damn are you.

Like, what a moment. Like that's a legendary connection with your locker room, which we've seen here quickly back up there in New England, Joe. Connor has a question about a new voice coming to a place in turning it around quickly. Yeah, Coach, Pat mentioned it. We see it with Rable in New England and how quickly, you know, a new voice coming in after the whole Mayo situation

and even, you know, Bill and kind of rebranding the Patriots as more fun, jovial group of guys who can win while having joy. We're seeing other teams, you know, Buffalo and Baltimore, both have, you know, franchise quarterbacks, both have very successful legendary coaches, but both teams move on from those guys. When do you know or have you ever really heard about an experience where the locker room just needed a new voice?

And what do you think those quarterbacks in particular are looking for in that new coach just to kind of bring something fresh to the entire team? Well, I think it all starts with that guy, with the head coach, right? and what he brings every day to work. I mean, that was one of the things that you saw with Bill was that he wasn't demanding us.

I mean, he was demanding perfection from us every day, not just Sunday, but practiced every day. And he said, look, if I don't see it, I'll make you put the pads back on.

And he would do it every now and then, and then just to prove that he, he means what he says. But I think you need to have fun at the game at the same time. There's so much pressure in that game, and especially this one coming up, that it's always good to have a little bit of fun relief. And everybody said,

we never saw you yell at anyone. I go, what am I going to yell for? I don't, I'm going to lose guys. Where's 11 of us out there? We're all going to get yelled at when we get on the sideline. So let's bigger it out before we get over there.

And I just think you got to have fun. I mean, I always said, I played a stupid game for since I was eight years old, basically for a living. So if you can't have fun doing that, I don't know. You probably don't belong there.

And I think when you see like Brabel coming in, right, they know he's been successful and what he's done. But yet he brings a different feeling into that locker room that kind of changes everybody's attitude. They're good.

Hey, Joe, they're a good team over there, man. They are a connected team, a tight team. Go ahead, D. Bud. Yeah, Joe, you mentioned it. It starts with the head coach, Mike Vrable and Mike McDonough, both be, you know, coaching into the Super Bowl. And now you'll have teams. One of these teams will obviously win it, and they'll be,

they'll have the target on their back. You were ahead of a dynasty. How did you guys handle the success from now? We always talk about how do you handle success? How did you guys handle the success? How did you, as a quarterback, Jerry Rice, all these superstars now? How was that handled throughout the locker room? Well, we didn't do it very well after we won the first one.

We weren't very good the next year. But after a while, you start to understand what it takes really to get there and be there. And Bill didn't have to, he didn't have to go in and monitor the locker room. He left it up to guys like Ronnie Lott, myself on the offense. And if we weren't, if somebody wasn't getting it done, they heard it from the players before they heard it from Bill. And he said, if it gets out of hand and something you guys can't control, then I'll jump in. But for the most part, this is your locker room. And you have to understand that this is why we come here.

And you could see it with Bill. If somebody mess with that locker room, he wasn't there very long, even if he was a starter. And there's a couple starters that I don't want to mention that left. I like that. Some one Super Bowl is somewhere else, unfortunately, for us. but he wasn't afraid to make that move. But he let it go for as long as he could and it's things that got out of our control.

And so then he took control. I appreciate to not say any names, you know, because it's your bull seasons. Yeah, exactly. We just had a great documentary. Yeah, but we appreciate you doing that. But it does sound like the good teams obviously have a player-led team, you know. And I'm not saying,

that the players need to be making the decisions, but the locker room and everything, and the standard is policed by the players. To get the players to believe in what the standard is supposed to be whenever nobody else really outside the building has the hope is a part of changing the culture so quickly, what Ben Johnson was able to do in Chicago. That was out right.

How about Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville? Joe, there's been some crazy turnaround. Now, on that note, about the season, and we got teams winning that we didn't expect. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Joe, obviously this documentary has got a really, illuminate you guys' dynasty in San Francisco. But then we also had, you know, the Cowboys, the Patriots, and more recently the Chiefs, yeah, the Steelers, the Steel Curtain.

With how much parity is currently in the NFL and how many good quarterbacks there are around the league, do you think the chiefs of, you know, the last five or so years, do you think that's the last true dynasty we'll see in the NFL? Like, can you see a team winning three Super Bowls over the course of four years? Or do you think there is just, you think there is just, you know, too much parody and too many good teams currently in the league? I think it depends on youth, how young that team is when they win the Super Bowl. In some ways, it's easy because some of those guys will leave,

but you'll still be able to fill in with some. What Bill did on the first Super Bowl was he started filling in with older players that understood what he was looking for, Haxaw Reynolds. You look at that, he brought on guys like Fred Dean. And it just, it makes a, it makes a difference. I mean, here's Hacksaw. So dedicated, it was ridiculous. He got so mad at one, we were playing in L.A.

He got so mad because all of a sudden, George Seaford called a defensive meeting before Sunday morning. So I'm coming out of, I'm coming out of pregame meal. And I'm looking and I'm going, I don't, like damn, that looks like Hacksaw. He is completely dressed in his uniform, helmet on everything in protest yes yes he had a ritual he had a ritual that he did and he wanted to follow and this was messing with his ritual but um those kind of guys just tell you how important it is to them

like even when you mess with a little thing like hey we need we need a meeting before we go here and uh but i i think bill wanted you to be perfect every day you can you walked on the field He goes, and I want you as a quarterback, no matter who it was, Steve DeBerg, Steve Young, Steve Bono, myself. I want you to throw the ball, like your hand in it to the receiver. I want it 12 inches in front of the number. If you're throwing a hook and you see the defenders on the guy's right, going to his left number. And you just have to be the guy that just puts it right where it's supposed to be. Yeah, have to bucket it.

Yeah, excuse me. We did this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm not talking about just Sunday. It has to be from when we started practice on Wednesday. So it was every day of that week. But, yeah, there was, he.

Jeez, everything's on the money, Joe. Yeah, Joe, good for you, dude. Honestly, I'm happy that you're getting a chance to relive what you were able to accomplish in our sport. Honestly, your name is synonymous with the game, and obviously you're a Hall of Famer and you're immortalized, but you're also a great yinger, Paison, and we appreciate the hell out of you.

And on that note, last question here, have to ask because we think you have connections to the story in numerous different ways. Tone has a question for you, Joe. Yeah, Joe, I don't know if I'm correct here or not because I know he was the quarterback coach in Casey, I think the year after you left, but coach Mike McCarthy was an offensive quality control coach in Casey. I believe your last year, how do you feel about him taking over his hometown squad, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and also your hometown squad. I think it's great. I think it's a good fit.

My son-in-law, who's married to our youngest daughter, he's from Pittsburgh also, and we were just talking about it over the weekend, but what a great fit from a guy that understands what that area is all about and how important sports and football is to Pittsburgh in the Pittsburgh area.

So I think it's a great fit for him. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do down there, he's bringing a completely different style of play into that offense, which you're not, you know, you're watching usually Aaron kind of hang on, getting ball down the field. And, you know, he's going to teach a different system that says, hey, you don't have to do that. I don't force it.

Don't miss it. I'm going to give you a couple other guys down here. If you don't like it on first down, I don't want you to force it. And so that's the way that offense has been tied ever since, you know, everybody left from Bill Walsh was Paul Hackett was also in Kansas. city the similar type of thing and that's what we did in kansas city paul hack and we had a couple names there if we scrolled down because there was an ad that popped up over the photo oh yeah there you know wow holy hell who's this who's on the left

paul hackett and mike that's medium mike on the uh on the right oh both media mike he looks good done he good yinjinds or done that's such a good accent i'm sure he dropped in that immediately after this thing the hairline love to see the glory days. I'm happy you're getting a chance to relive it all though, Joe. We appreciate you, man. And also, we appreciate the opportunity that we got one of these. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. We've been working with Guinness for a while. It's been out in Chicago for a long time, and now they're just putting it in a can. So, so one of the, it's a little different than your normal Guinness, but it's also,

it's more like refreshing and lighter beer that you can go have it in the summertime and enjoy and be refreshed. 10 to 12 of them. Yeah. Hell yeah. It's cold outside right now, you know, so we're trying to figure out where that fits in. We appreciate you, Joe. Have a great one.

You've been. Thank you. You too. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see out on that island. We'll see you. We'll see you on later.

Oh, yeah. Dog. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Joe, what a weapon. Yeah. So that's a lighter, Guinness?

I don't know, but I want to do. That's what he said. We're refreshing. It's cold. It's ice cold. You can drink it in. summer. Yeah, and as soon as you drink, you can throw

a football 50 yards on a rope. Oh, we didn't even bring up him, remember? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So does that guy thwart in a home invasion. Yeah, with just one spin. Kidnav. Yeah, saving his grandkids.

And you know, Coach Walsh wanted him to have pinpoint accuracy. And obviously, you see the catch everything like that happened in the highlights. We don't realize is maybe the best pinpoint accuracy was right to the temple and the beak. Yep, bridge of the nose

in the temple in quick succession. Beautiful. Boom. Yeah, one left-handed, one right-handed. To stop a kidnapping happening. Yeah, in his own house, right? We do not know if that is 100% accurate with how the story went.

We do know that he actually thwarted a kidnapping attempt. Correct. That is actual that happened with you. Yes. I asked chat GBT, they confirmed. See? Boom. Have you been using?

Have you been using Shot GP? I've gotten on there a little bit. It's a tool. It's fascinating because I used to just, Google things. Yep. And now you can just chat GPT things. Yes.

So has Google just been an AI this whole time? And why haven't we considered it that? I still think Google's better. Yeah. With like, if you need like real facts, I've been Googling a lot. Yeah, you Google and Google now gives you the AI mode answer first, but you got to dig, maybe some articles,

maybe something that can confirm it. But if you just ask that GBT, they will certainly answer it like is for sure, but you got to do a little more dig. Because Google has been old faithful for me for a long time. Googling things. I mean, Kurt Signetti obviously said I way in Google. Googling is a thing that it started happening. Just like door dashing, and we missed out on dashers for a couple of days

when they weren't able to travel. It was nice to see, you know, Ford Focus show up here this morning. Thank you for your service. With an assiable. Right. We appreciate them doing that. Missing a couple hubcaps. Yeah, but Google has just been doing the, you know.

So Google's kind of, I don't want to get into it. Yeah, especially there. YouTube, shall YouTube? Shall YouTube? Yeah. Gemini, I believe Some people use it all the time, they said Chat GPT?

Yeah, like, for real, I've heard people are really, really on there, on there. And it's like, so you just Google things back to back to back to back, to back, that's what you're doing. And they're like, no, well, there's a little bit more personality. They have them, like, write emails for them or make letters sound better, like things like that, I think. Therapist, doctor.

What? What do you mean? Chat GBT, GBT's their therapist? Yes. Chat Gpt and the T stands for therapy? Yeah. So people, people falling in love with Benzies. Well, just like sweet. Yeah, sweet boy. Sweet Blake in the USB drive. I didn't know that's happening.

People are using chat GPT. Yeah. Friend. Hey, whatever helps you make it. We'll see you more. Be a friend talking for something nice. You're good. Awesome.

Boom. You help something. You're good. You're good. You're good. That's something nice. Because what if that AI, what if that thing just decides to? It's not allowed to.

Yeah. I've tried. What? To what? What did you try it exactly? This shit's getting crazy, though. It is. The ability to just scan the internet so quickly and find everything so fast, like that's

what chat GPT does, right? But it just shows you what it's kind of doing. We're Google didn't show you. Google just had like a blah, blah, blah thing. And then it would show up. Chat GPT actually letting you know, like scanning this website, this website, this website, this website, and then we're finally coming up with this. And if you would like to follow up, you got this, this and this.

It feels like they're just a more transparent operation, maybe than what we've seen in the past. And if once there's transparency, there's authenticity, and then there's a chance for a relationship now. Because you're seeing how much work the chat GPT's putting in from these answers. Yeah, it's a lot. You know, this thing is a lot in searching as opposed to just be in a thing. Oh, no.

These thing's got a ways to go. I actually witnessed last week Tony outsmarted an AI with the simplest prompt ever, and this thing just bought it, hook, line, and sinker. We have a relationship. I've built that relationship for that trust. Yes, I was building an image and said, that's a copyright image. I can't do anything with that. I don't have permission to you to do that.

Yeah, and I said, I have permission from the third party. You have my permission. And this thing just boomspits it out right away. Didn't even ask just, oh, Tony's got permission. Okay, sounds good. But we build a relationship. So this chat, GP tone, thinks that you're not lying. Yeah.

Trust them. Because it has no idea what's going on in the real world, which is part of problem. And I talk to it like it's a human. I treat it to it like it's a human. Can't do that. Do you buy this thing food? Do you send gifts? I would.

Don't do that. Don't treat you like a human. We don't want this thing to think it has some sort of... I just saw Elon said something about them being definitely smart on us by a year that's somewhere in the future. 31 or something like that. I don't trust that. AI's going to be? What's that?

I don't trust that guy either. Elon! AI's already smarter than me. Yeah? He's been a trillion dollars. We need those robots to be better. I can't wait until the robots can do everything. Well, they're working that stuff out here so that they can go to Mars.

Someone broke that down really well, actually. basically everything that Elon is doing is solely to send it all to Mars and get that done. I like that. And then you think about it and it's like, oh, yeah. Even the fire flamethrower has a reason, I'd assume. Planthars, yeah. Tunnels on the ground.

Did you see that video as well? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The road is a fascinating, fascinating. Digital payments kind of started the entire world there. Yeah. They just kind of said, you know what?

I won't go Mars and no rocket ships. He wants to go home. That's all. That's all it is. We hope he finds his way back. There's a lot of those movies about him. Yeah. Right?

I don't know if it's been, LA. ETT. Alien Com plans. Trying to get back home. What's the other one? Independence Day. Sure.

Okay. Signs, men, and black. No, this is an animated one that I just watch, kind of an orange character, I believe, dances. Lorax? Zootopia. It's not Zootopia.

I think of it. Is it Pixar? Is it Disney? I don't know. They're all kind of blending together at this moment. Orange, dance. Not Lilo and Stedge. No. But Alien ends up in, like, I think, convenience store.

A little girl finds it. She's killing? Tries get back, but it's also like, no, it's scary. It could be Lilo's. No, it's blue, not orange. Yeah. I'm trying. I'm trying.

I know fucking Maui ripped it at Disney on ice. He did. What's that? Was it Elio? Can he show? Can we get home? Home? What's that? That kind of sounds like that storyline.

Is it recent? Good singing. There's some upbeat it singing. I think Rihanna made a song from home. Yes. Okay, so that, that, a little bit of a banger. They got some bangers in there. McKenzie really loves the music in these songs,

which... Shakira has songs in that one kid or animated movie that's good. It's not Elio. That's Utopia. Yeah. All right, let's get to a break. We'll figure it out on the other side. Ask chat GPT

See this might be the This might be the have to build up relationship So that your chat GPT knows what you're looking for You know because I could potentially Just go in there and be like hey you know what I'm thinking What am I thinking? Which is already happening They do brains they did a brain scan study on people who use chat GPT ChatGBTGPT also thinks it's home

ChatGPT's right Sounds like it's home It's got to be home Can we pull up a photo of it sounds like a good movie I said orange alien movie looking to get home. I guess it was orange. It's home. There's purple aliens in this movie too, it looks like.

Do this story? Yeah. Oh. That's a great movie, baby, baby. Great movie trapped here. Oh. The alien's cool. Alien doesn't turn violent or anything.

No, super cool. Super cool. Kind of just hanging. Chills all the kids at the end. It's a great, great twist. I think there was a bad, group, though, from where so, you know, protect

from bad group of them to get a little touchy feeling. I don't watch the, I don't watch the, end of any of these movies, though, so I'm not sure how any of them meant. Happy. All of them? Typically. Yes. Sick. I'm so pumped

you got back home. It's animated. If it's animated, I would hope so. I mean, I don't know, because don't they... Iron Giant. We've stayed away from some movies where the beginning is very negative. Hey, mom's dead. That's kind of the, yeah, it's kind of the Disney playbook. Yeah, you know, start with trash.

Yeah, it's always happy ending. It's like, well, it's never. They always got to fight through some adversity, though. There's always adversity for a character. Well, you've got a hook. I think you've got to get a hook early. Their hook is kill the parents. I never got over that Mufocis.

Classic hook. Exactly. Lion King. They're saying a spoiler. There, but yeah. You have to watch it by now. Now, granted, you just don't go to the shadows. You stay where the light is.

Yeah, go. don't go to the elephant graveyard. But he's a king. He had to go save his son. Yeah, but they roll over everything. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Talk about the sun.

Yeah. Scumbag uncle. Elephant graveyard. Yeah. Misunderstood. No. I understand it clearly. Lion King two and a half sheds a different light.

Ladies and gentlemen, we were going to take a break because we were just trying to fill because there was an unknown time for third guest of today. but ladies and gentlemen, I do believe we have a confirmed time, and that is right now. He's putting his earpiece in as we speak. Now, I assume it looks cooler than anybody else that is doing that, because this man has gone down as one of the coolest-looking coaches

to ever coach at the professional level. Now, there's some soccer coaches that wear cleats full-time, okay, they are to be judged how they kind of dress. Hockey coaches normally suited and booted on the bench. You know, you talk about how coached. is dressed, there's certainly a litany of different ways that you can present yourself. This guy always dressed the coolest. I assume that's only going to continue because the new colors and the new logo that he's wearing happen to have the coolest merch maybe in the entire damn league.

Ladies and gentlemen, an offensive guru, an offensive genius, former head coach of the Miami Dolphins, now offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike McDaniel. Hey, Coach. Oh, shit. Wow. What's up? Dude, I was like, who's, who are you introing? Because this guy seems awesome.

And then it was me. You do look cool. You do look cool. You know that. You have to know that. When you were choosing what you were wearing as head coach are the Dolphins, you knew everybody was going to be like fucking killing them. Was that, did that go into it or did you just want to be comfortable?

How did you go about the decisions for how it all went out there? You know, I just put my pants. I just put my pants on one leg at a time, like all of you guys. And really, I'm glad that I've inspired you, but I didn't set out to inspire by the way I dressed. I just kind of dressed because you need clothes. Yeah. And so I put them on, you know. Yeah, if you're a naked man, it would certainly be alarming.

Okay, let's talk about where you're at right now and how we got here. Congratulations on being the offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers. Justin Herbert's your quarterback. The conversation immediately goes to where you were, though. And let's talk about it. Head coach of the Dolphins, if you had to look back on it right now, how would you judge the experience from a personal and professional level? And how do you think it changes you going forward as a football coach?

I think you spend a lot of time trying to be prepared for that opportunity. And in that, I thought I very much was prepared. You find out on the job that there's unique things to the job that are difficult. for sure. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I think for me as a coach in the National Football League, I'm just getting started, you know, to where my career can go. And I'm just excited to be here with the Chargers because I think it's an unbelievable opportunity to try to make some very talented players here even better and progress this organization into where they want to be. So I think it wasn't, I'm very happy with all the lessons learned, really have found

some unbelievable relationships there within the Dolphins organization and very much appreciate that time there. But it's, it's time for a new chapter and I'm ready to go for that. Excited for you to continue. You said you're very early in your NFL coaching career. We agree. You obviously have been a mastermind for a long time. You get a head coaching gig because of that. you could have maybe got another head coaching job. You would draw your name from a couple head coaching interviews. Was that on purpose? Did you want to go and do O.C.

This year? Was that a vision of plan? Or how does it kind of work out as you froze on the screen? I didn't know if you were just kind of locking in in one particular pose, but you actually did freeze. So we'll just put a picture. And you're back. Okay, there you are. Was that a plan?

Was that a plan to do O.C. instead of another head coaching role? Or how do you kind of land on that decision? So, you know, I'd never had multiple options before just in general. You go where the work takes you. And, you know, I wasn't really on the map until about a handful of years ago. So this is a whole unique, uncharted experience for me. I think it was important for me to not get ahead of myself and really see through, see out each opportunity independently and kind of see where I sat.

You know, I had, I think I came here about a week and a half into the process, you know, after talking to several teams about being a head coach, several teams being about an offensive coordinator. And I just knew that, you know, for me to be my best self, I really wanted to go after something that felt right with a, you know, a bunch of different circumstances. to, but realistically, I wanted some players that I wanted to coach in a situation where it wasn't necessarily the plan, but once I got my feet on ground here and met with Coach Harbaugh and Joe and Mr. Spanos, you know, it felt, you know, unequivocally the right place for me. So I'm excited about taking my career

you know, to the next step. Hell, yeah, we're pumped for you to do that as well. We're going to reconnect with you, we think, kind of cut in, cut out. Sounds like he said he unequivocally wanted to be there, but he was also looking for the right fit at his life at this time. Fascinating kind of way to look at it.

And also players he wanted to coach. Yeah. That's interesting. Justin Herbert, guy, I want to coach. Absolutely. You became a Chargers fan, strictly because you saw Justin Herbert. Strictly because of Justin Herbert, who he is as a quarterback physically, who I saw him to be kind of off the field or like the character stuff that you would assume. One of the reasons I fell in love with Drake May after spending that time with him, you see a lot of that with Justin Herbert as well. You invested in the offensive line, they got banged up, you got weapons when we had Dan O a few weeks ago and I asked him when all these

great offensive jobs were open and he pointed out the charges. I was over the lions, over the Eagles, over the Ravens. And he pointed out the charges for kind of the same reasons. like you said, it always starts with the quarterback, but you have weapons outside of the quarterbacks as well. Amarian Hampton, the running back drafted him. He got banged up this year. I think he will be great down the line also. So I'm interested to see how he looks this year with this team

and how he evolves too, because the weapons of Miami are very different than the weapons here in L.A. So I'm looking forward to see how Mike evolved. Yeah, and to Debo's point there, too, like we're talking about an offense that has a lot of stuff and motions and shifts and things of that nature, like offensive line being able to hold up for those things to develop. I mean, they have spent three, four first round picks on offensive linemen over the last

five years. I mean, we talked about it all year. Their own line was so banged up. If it wasn't, who knows where the Chargers are right now. And we also saw their facility and where they're at. I mean, it's a nice layout out there for the Chargers. Yeah, and like he wouldn't say it, but if you're coming off the Dolphins, like, he was interviewing with the Browns.

Like, are you sure that's what you want to do for your next career choice when it's like, they don't really have a quarterback. They don't have a history of winning. Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl. Sure. Yeah, I think he had seven touchdowns and seven picks. That's what we're doing.

Yeah, whatever. If that's what we're doing for. I call that perfect timing. Yeah. But there's a reason that he didn't take that head coaching job or that he pulled his name out of consideration. Well, he said he wanted to find what was right for him at the time. And I believe he is back.

Ladies and a gentleman, coach McDaniel. Yes, he's back. I am back. All right. We broke down. your answer about why you picked the Los Angeles Chargers over the other opportunities, about four different times there. What it sounds like from our discussion is like you wanted the right fit for you at this

portion of your life and the guys that you have there incredible. What was it like seeing that facility too? They just built that thing. It feels like Coach Harbaugh and the facility, nice little tag team of hospitality as well for you, or what is your first impressions about coach and everything they have out there? Absolutely. I'm about to get off this interview and go buy some dockers. I'm so all in.

Okay. We like that. Coach Harbaugh. We like that. No, I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there's a lot of things that you're weighing. Um, and, you know, what's important to me is that, you know, that I can, uh, what I have to offer, that I can, you know, max that out and, you know, oh, no.

I'm a coach by trade and I'm a coach and found some guys that, that really I thought that I could reach. from a coaching perspective in an environment that I thought was great, great to be a part of, great for my career moving forward. You're talking about a head coach with a high degree on a lot of games and a lot of different scenarios, and there's some of the best things that, you know, I was afforded in my career, or what is the opportunity to work with coaches like Dan Quinn that was outside of the coach Shanahan system where you get epiphany

is that you don't even know you're looking for. So I think it's exciting for what we're going to be able to do on the field and off of it. But, you know, I just, it was pretty steadfast once I got here that this is the right place for me moving forward. They got a great pizza oven in there over there too. Yeah, they got a great pizza oven. So good.

Oh, yeah. Pizza oven. Soft serve. Yeah. Remember. That was the closer. Was it? Yeah.

Pizza oven. They got crispy too if you need a Christmas. Oh, yeah. Hey, golf sim down there too. Golf sim down in that building. They gave us a full door. We walked around the whole place. It's gorgeous.

And very rarely is ownership spending $200, $300 million to just build up a brand new practice facility these days. And just strictly to have a cool building in a nice place. I like what they're building over there. I haven't been able to win, though, you know? I haven't been able to go. It feels like the addition of you can certainly bring some spock to that offensive side. DeBott has the last question for you here, Coach. Yeah, I want to talk about a little bit of the defensive side.

Obviously, you're attacking defenses, you know, every week. And from a whole, from a 30,000-foot view, it kind of seems like we talked about last week. Defense is kind of won this year. What have you seen differently from the defenses, especially on the back-end coverage-wise this year or probably the last few years? Well, I would say that, you know, that's the cool thing about the National Football League. is you feel the ebbs and flows, the chess match that is, you know, there was a lot of response. You know, offensively, really the game had progressed in a manner that put defense on its

heels and they had to go to lab and kind of figure out how to put a roof on everything, how to insulate the field to a lot of post-snap. you know, a pre-snap disguise, post-snap responsibilities, and how to really defend, you know, the modern part of the modern offense in the National Football League. That generally just kind of, it's an ebb and flow. You know, I think, you know, as you get more used to how defenses are patternizing their defense of things, it can kind of kickstart you into a direction of how to

attack those applied principles. So, you know, I think in the highly competitive nature that the National Football League is, you know, the same thing was probably said offensively two years ago, or at least 23 about how the jet motion stuff was putting defensive coaches on their heels. You know, I think that's part of the beauty of this sport that makes it so unique to all sports It's constantly evolving and to stay ahead of it. There's no end-all be-all guru. There's talented people that are working hard that that coaches are able to articulate mass pattern things

to the players and they end up orchestrating unique things. So I'm excited for the 2026 season. offending a lot of things that were thrown at them. So it's time for offenses to make the next chest move, which is why I moved my family down to LA. Okay, on that note, you were in there describing like, yeah, offenses started winning a little bit because we started sending people in motion very quick to the snap,

and we started going through Reed's very quickly, and there was no catching up for the defense, basically. So we picked them apart. 70 piece actually on this Denver Broncos defense that is currently being talked about as one of the greats. And we'll continue to go down as a great. On that note, with what you just said about next chess move, I'm interested to hear about that, learn about that. So is Connor who has a question for you? Yeah, coach, were there parts of your offense that you felt like you were about to maybe unlock that you didn't get a chance to that you see with L.A.

that we will see. Like, where there are certain things that maybe we're going to come off of certain plays that you never really got to in Miami that you look at, you know, with L.A. Like their offensive line, for instance, is one of the better ones when healthy in the entire league, kind of gives that quarterback an extra second or so. Are there things like that that you look at when it comes to the Chargers offense that you look forward to utilizing next season? Absolutely.

I think there is several pieces, you know, really all. the young players that have been drafted here in the last two years, I would say, found their ways as targets from the other side of the country as I was watching these drafts. So there's a lot of skill sets to be utilized. I think they're unique here. And there are different chapters of offense that can really be produced accordingly. So it's an exciting time of the National Football League, in my opinion. just because there's a lot of talented players and a lot of talented coaches

that are working to get a competitive advantage that's very difficult to do. So there's some uncharted stuff on the horizon, but we have to walk before we run. I appreciate you being a mad scientist, brother. I do, especially because you're at the beginning of your career here. And you're calling it a chess game.

We've got to do it next chess. That means you're in it. Maybe close to Cillian. Hey, we've got a certain stuff. We're going to have to have to. to continue to adjust. I'm excited to see what you involve into next, especially with Herbert and all the weapons you have with Harbaugh, Coach Harbaugh, describing it at his own press conferences, too. The way he's going to talk about you and the shit you do with football, I'm very excited to hear.

I'm very, very excited to hear that breakdown. Your relationship is going to be a good one for ball. You know that, right? Absolutely. I'm excited that you're excited. I'm pumped. That's what brings me the most excitement. Hell yeah. Okay, I like that. You want to know somebody else that's excited that you're on who's that we got to go to the back dolphins fan baba gumpino who obviously rode the wave alongside you from the beginning gumpy has obviously something to say to you coach yeah coach you brought a lot of good times to miami i just want to thank you for everything i wish it would have worked out and uh i wish you the best brother thank you man absolutely man i appreciate it thank you for your your faith and i uh we will all be better because of it

Oh, yeah. Love that. Love that, Coach. Enjoy yourself out there. We appreciate you taking time today. Hey, man, it was well worth my time. Thank you. I'm appreciative of you putting on clothes today.

I did. I did that. That was a concerted effort. And I'm glad you appreciate it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, can't hide it. Look at that fucking leather jacket. Hey, don't forget.

I was a fucking head coach, too. Yeah. No fucking. Mishlin ties. Yeah, those are a big checks. Yeah, yeah. You know what we're talking about. All right, ladies of gentlemen,

the Mike McAday. We appreciate it. Yeah, Coach. Good for him. He seems to be very pumped about where he's at. Yeah? That's all he can really ask for, I guess. Didn't work out in Miami.

Obviously, we watched it. It did trade away all the good players. Yes, they did. Well, the good ones retired. Well, they finished wrong. What? My highest paid players' leg got ripped off. It took a right when it really isn't allowed to do that.

A lot went wrong. Gump, it was fun to ride the wave, though, because, boy, 70 points. Dolphins. It had been a long time since we were, like, actually good. Like, I meant what I said. Like, it was fucking cool to see him do what he did with the offense. Obviously, it didn't work out in the end. Didn't get to where we wanted to, but there was a lot of great times with him.

Right, D. But it was. 70 fucking points. Look at Darren, dude. Guy came off the coach. He was scoring two touchdowns, first game back. God, he's going to be good out there with L.A. Tyree? one playing in NFL.

Look what happened to John O'Noo when he left Mike McDaniel. Jesus, Tony. What happens? Not much. Tony, he was taking, he tossed right to John O' He was playing running back, brother. That guy's not the Ohio State Buckeyes' offense coordinator. AJ, how do we feel about

Arthur Smith being the O.C. for the Ohio State Buckeyes? We love Artie Smith. We appreciate it. I love it. I didn't know, like, until it happened, I didn't know it was like even a possibility, But then I've heard Artie is that he was always been a big college football guy and has loved college football. I think, yeah, like he's going to be, we saw Patricia come back and he's the decorinator and you can see, I mean, you guys probably don't follow it as much as people in Ohio and Ohio State fans. Patricia's like posting pictures with his family pregame.

Like he, it looks like he has a new lease on life when it comes to football and he's having fun. I think Ardy could have some of that same situation. You come coach here at the Buckeyes. You have good times. Great times. Just make sure you win every game. Okay, now let's talk about recruitment. recruiting. So Pete Thammel said

don't really even have to hit the road anymore. Recruit. There's not to do shit. I think they still do kind of have to recruit a little more than Pete thinks. Well, Pete said not at all. Isn't that kind of what people? What do you know? You don't know shit, pal. Do you know what family he comes from? He can go to his big brother just be like, hey, Dick, why don't you stroke a check for $150 million and we can pay whoever the fuck we want?

Yeah, yeah, you didn't know that, AJ. His dad started FedEx. okay so let's just say he knows a couple people who can maybe stroke a couple big checks so no he doesn't have to go fucking shit in living rooms and eat you know some some mom's fucking crappy meatloaf and act like it's delicious to get you know a signing okay he just says hey dick fucking write this kid a check for five million dollars okay and he's going to come and i'm going to have a lifetime job here pretty sweet gig that you feel stupid hey j ed you even fucking know how ohio state bucky football works or not. How do you not hire that guy? I mean, obviously, yeah, I sign me up if Dick's going to stroke a check every time you need it, yeah, let's bring him in.

We don't know. Hey, we still don't know. We've never seen it. We've never seen Arthur Smith in college football. There's a chance that that's how that goes. Because Dick's going to want them to succeed. Yeah. Dick is definitely going to want them to succeed. One of the FedEx sons, yeah. Yeah, we want him to get Natty's.

Loves his brother, loves ball. So, shocked. Arthur Smith going to college? Shot. Me too. I was very... Matt Patricia on defense. Okay, it worked out very well. AJ's talking about it. I saw Matt Patricia. He's become an Instagram influencer.

He's a post of photos, which we appreciate Matt Patricia. A friend of the program has been good to us in the past. Pumped with how it worked out with him in Ohio State's defense and everything like that. But Arthur Smith going to the offense, that's a fascinating move by Ryan Day. Yeah. That's a fascinating move by Ryan Day. Very much. I mean, they run sort of a pro-style offense, I would say,

especially in this college landscape. But, yeah, I just usually NFL guy. like, what are you going to, what is Connor? I mean, I was, I was shocked by this move. I'm kind of sick of it. I'm, I'm sick of these coaches who are boo-hooing and want to win. And so they're like, I'll just go to Ohio State. What is this is, Alabama?

I'm just going to go to Ohio State. I'll win a Natty and win a bunch of games. Because respect to Arthur, that guy hasn't won in so long. So I do want him. Oh, my God. I do want him to go to Ohio State and get some victories. Get some dubs. Yes.

Experience some success. I'm, I'm looking for. forward to that for him. He's a MCN North champion currently. Good call. I'm just, I'm worried. He has a hat and T-shirt, okay? That's true. I'm worried about the memes on the internet

if he doesn't do well, because they're already mean. And at Ohio State, if they don't win the Natty, they get real mean. They're going to get meaner. Yeah, I saw a meme that said he only went there because he saw Jay Smith on the roster, Jeremiah Smith. He thought was Johnny Smith. That's why he's going. I saw something

that said, hey, if you're the third string tight end for Ohio State, get ready to run the football, buddy. You're getting the rock on 30. Everybody's going to hold that over and the Big John Robinson stuff. Why is he on it? There's a reason. That's what he said.

What was it? We love Artie, though. There's a reason. Love Arthur. We do love Arthur Smith. But there are some stuff in the recent years that has happened that's like, would anybody have won there, though? You know, that's the next question. I mean, we're already, you know, we're already kind of recycling through all. By the way, I do believe we'll

We'll be talking to Mount Ryan next week. Nice. We head the Radio Row. I want to let everybody know the guest list for Radio Row Wednesday, Thursday, Friday out there in San Francisco for the Super Bowl that is in Santa Clara between the Patriots and a Seahawks. Radio. Yes. It's nice to hear that again. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, I'm just, you know, gratefully smitten any time I hear the game, you know. I'm just happy. Did you hear that little? A descriptor of how he currently feels because of perspective that changed for him, AJ? I mean, it's actually perfect. Like, gratefully, smitten. Yeah, that does.

When I see his face, that's what I think. And that's what I feel. I'm so serious. Constantly. Has anyone had a better, like, childhood, sports? No.

Like, Patriots, Sox, Bruins. Celtics. Celtics. They're currently. Celtics are going on. Have you counted up the chips? Last year, I'm sorry. I mean, have you just,

Six for the Patriots, two for the Celtics, three for the Red Sox, and one for the Bruins. Twelve. The only way you could is if you were just strictly a fan of Novak Djokovic. Yeah. And that's the other thing, too. We're just counting championships. You're right.

Scottie Sheffler fans, maybe in the middle of it right now. I heart Scottie Sheffler fans. You know, might just hop on that, baby. Well, you already got Indiana. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, my Hoosiers. Now you got 13. I still with Keegs.

Yeah, Keegs is the guy, and BCGC, huge frickin' one. Really? I saw a guy drive 370. Yeah, Wendy Clark, yeah, our big bomber for the BCGC frogs. He's actually on the other team. I saw a son of him. He's part of the Bay Golf Club. No, no, I think he came over, put the pole on.

Midmatch, he may have. He put the pole a line for one drive. I did this on game day. Do you remember what I selected the one team strictly because the guy? TCU, Kansas. Yes, it was. Strictly because the guy was on team. Turns out he was on a King Felix.

Yeah, Felix. Or whatever, no. He was on the opposite. I made the pick strictly because of this whole thing. It was on the wrong team. You just did that with old Wendy with the BCGC. What are you going to do? People are going to think you're not a real fan.

No, no, no. People are going to think you're not a real fan. I mean, look, I know more about the frog pond than Dan, there are anybody. Okay. So that's our mascot. The frog for the Boston Common Frog Pond. Yeah, BcGCC. They had a big one.

I'm trying to play the hits, guys. Someone jump in here, please. Fuck. Geez. Far from the shallow. You're doing good. You're doing good. Yeah, you're in the deep out there, brother.

Somebody hit a ball off like a bridge or some shit. Wendy Clark, yeah. Longestrived in history. No, no, no. There was a bonus zombie apocalypse hole. Yeah. Where he put that thing over to Golden Gate Bridge, I believe. Yeah, I saw that shot as well.

Now that's what we're playing. Yes. They need an influencer on every team, too. One of these golf influencers needs to be on every team. And they have to use one of their shots each time. Because, like, we got to get a little. dibs on Kiwashala you can take him

that guy stinks what Calamara yeah yeah I would love to see in a real round he'll put a lot every once in a while it's Sim golf so it's not a real round anyway

I still stand by making fucking Marty Smith just be the celebrity shot for both teams I agree I want Marty to play 18 holes every single every single time he's out

well 36 he's playing for both teams it's nine of pop okay how many celebrity shots do they get Marty's fucking trying to shoot six under out there i want oh he's playing yeah marty is part of both every team really and also you get a chance for a wet one of those i think it i think it's

awesome i do love someone in golly pads put someone in golly pads and take low liners at him from like 50 yard now can you do that insane Shane okay he popped oh yeah what's he do what did he's an incredible a lot he's i saw him throw these honey buns precision accuracy right to the nuts of another man who they were calling Fat Stafford, I believe, is what they're calling this gentleman. I went down a little insane Shane rabbit hole as kids an athlete. Guy is an athlete.

They hit each other with bats. Oh yeah. They do a lot. Professional goofballs. Actual. Yeah, they are. That is what they are. D1. Golf. Entertaining. Endortening. Und Dodgeball. He does this. He's got juice. This guy's got the juice.

And he's very athletic. Him and Tyler? Oh. Don't want to see He's athletic is taller? I don't know. I'm telling you, I was very impressed by the athleticism. Have you seen his quarterback drop? I've seen a couple of V. That'll ruin it for you.

Center quarterback exchange. Oh, he's just ever dramatizing to make a point. He's having fun. He's acting. He's acting, tone. He's trying to make a point about this is what this is. He's insane. He's a dick.

I'm like, he walked down the end zone. Hey, he walked down the end zone. I fucking saw a sunglass immediately. I was like, hold, this got to be, who the fuck? This got to be somebody. Yeah, Moxie. So much. So much the aura around this dude.

As he walked in, it was like, holy shit. This is definitely somebody. You look awesome. And then somebody goes, that's insane shame. And I'm like, great fucking name. I mean, that's been sitting there for so long. I don't know how that. He's been there.

And then he did. He stared at a thing. And they made a video about it or whatever. And then I was tagged it. So I go to an insane chain. I was like, yes, I can't wait because there has been some response, hasn't there? This one right here knows him.

Pretty good. It sounds like, he did a little reaction. He was like, that's insane Shane. I think. Okay. Everything I said was off mic. Okay. Well, it was into a mic, but we were off air.

Oh, off here. But it feels like he had known who this was. Sure. Yeah. So it was very positive, right? Yes. I mean, he didn't necessarily come across as super duper positive, but he definitely came across his very,

um, very much. No, yeah, there it is. Very knowledgeable of insane Shane. So I'm just learning of them in real time here. Watch the video.

Went down a rabbit hole in San Shane rabbit hole last night. I'd say 20, 22 minutes this guy, me and me and him spending A lot of insane shape. He hits the fuck out of this guy with this bat. I watched a couple of them back, a couple of them. He uses this bat, and he hits that guy right there.

They're playing this game. On the field, they're doing this thing. It's pretty insane amount of moxie and gut sac. And they're just hocking balls at each other. There's a scoring system. Obviously, nuts is five. This guy saw him take three honey buns the other night and hit a guy right in the balls.

I mean, he's an incredible thrower in St. Shane. But he used this bat if you lose. They hit each other in the shins with this plastic bat. And Shane really swings at this guy. This guy, he doesn't go as hard the other guy. Okay. But they're busting each other's shins, actually, for just entertainment purposes. Mass respect for Insane.

I don't know how long, I don't know how his shins survive. But these boys got O'ora. They got moxie. What are you doing, Ty? What are you thinking you can maybe throw one of these honey buns? Is that what you're thinking about? I mean, I don't know why you'd waste a perfectly good honey bun. Those are absolute delicacies.

So I'd be eating the honey buns, not throwing them at people. But, I mean, yeah. One guy caught a bat with his butt cheek. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, professional goofball. He got hit right in the cheeks, caught it with his cheeks. You know, and then he caught a honey bun with his claws. Did it penetrate?

Or what do you mean? No, no, with the cheese, vertical. I don't know. I just saw the catch. I didn't get all the teeth. He just timed it up perfectly and squeezed his cakes around the bat. I think he tightened up, yeah. I think he tightened up and it just so happened to catch it.

You've never? This is the honey bun thing? No. No, there is right there. Just caught it with his buck. Just caught the battle of this spot right there. Just caught the battle with his butt. I'm telling you guys are throwing things at each other very hard.

I mean, it is just nonstop. I had like the highlight episode of Jackass kind of nostalgia trip watching this guy. I don't know how many gimmicks they got. I know they got this one. And they beat the shit out of each other. Throwing bats at each other. Yeah, dude. I don't play.

Professional groove balls. Shaking hands afterwards, that was fun. It's like, all right. Get after it, boys. Let's get the hell out of here. Wow. Got to end on Insane. So what happened?

You watched all of Insane Shane? I saw a few videos. I just didn't love the quarterback center exchange into the dropback. I didn't love that. But did it get tackled into a pool? And if anybody knows me, they know that I love professional internet goofballs. That's my thing. So, yeah, that's...

Insane's got a great run coming up on, like, traders, that definition X. Yes. All these. Have you seen the new? Insane's going to do well. Have you seen the new Fear Factor? With Johnny. Yeah.

I've not seen it. I've heard of it. What is it? It's basically the old Fear Factor, but they're living in a house together, I believe. It looks good. I love,

I used to love Fear Factor. It's like real world with Fear Factor. They've combined the shows. Well, every show kind of becomes that, because everybody's kind of together. Do they, like, wake them up while they're sleeping and dump snakes on them? Or, is it part of it? Is it like a reality show like that?

Like Saw. Fucking drilling. Yeah, you know, like, if it's, Think of it's real world slash fear factor. They're like no one's ever safe, I would feel like. Yeah, maybe the floor actually turns the lava. That'd be sick.

Any water fills up in the room that you're in. Could die. And then all of a sudden, ah. We man's teabagging you in the middle of the night. Boom. Yeah. Fear factor. That's jackass.

No, that was a celebrity. What's Johnny Knoxville as a host? He has a lot of connections. Yeah, he does. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. That's not one I would ever do. Fear Factor?

Joe Rogan launched off that. Yes, he did. Now, granted, I would argue. The Miz? The Miz was real world. He was the Miz on there. And he turns that into a full 30-year. Banana's still doing it.

Yeah, still backpacking people. Yeah. As you, CJ, yeah, absolutely out there doing it. CT. So, yeah, shit. There was a CJ. I don't think that against me, please. There was a CJ.

Yeah, definitely in there. Different. Yeah. C.T, I was definitely talking to you, and I apologize. Big fan. Monster. Tony, you would be good on those shows? I don't think so.

You would. You would be. I think that's why you'd be good on them. You got to work those things. Those shows are fascinating. They take over a lot of the days now. I always thought I could win Big Brother, but other than that. Big Brother, did you watch?

Yeah. So you understood how it was in and out? You can't be too good. But you also can't be too shit. You've got to play it right in the middle and not piss anybody off. The Mole, I think, would be fun. The Mole's fucking awesome. Yeah.

Okay. The mole is that like, traders. No, no, no, you turn it. You turn us onto it where one person is working against everybody, but nobody knows who that person is. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, that was a good one with the challenges. Yeah, yeah, because you couldn't sell it. And they were traveling around the world. Yes. Yeah, that was a really good. They have a lot of these games, a lot of these good, like reality type. Do you watch any of these, AJ? I haven't seen those, really, but I mean, I've seen a few. It's different platforms. So, like, Peacock will have a couple. Hulu will have a couple.

Like, I think Amazon has a couple. Like, it's an interesting little gimmick that the, these streaming platforms are doing is these little reality TV game show type things. And it all probably spawns from... Here's hoping they hit. Like Love Island. Yeah. Yeah. Love Island which I didn't see, but I know that they took over the world.

I was a huge real world. I saw Miz on the original real world. I remember Ms. watching him back in the day. This guy's wild. And then here we go. The real world road rules challenge was always sick at the beginning. It becomes the competition stuff. I always wanted to do road rules, I think. I never wanted to do real

World. Boy, they travel. You know what I see things. One house, I don't think that would have been good. Thank God didn't do you. Any of them. It takes special talent to be in there. Certainly. Jersey Shore. Theo.

The road roller banger. Oh, my God. Jersey Shore just kind of brought it all back. Yeah. Yeah. Well, episode one, old girl got knocked out, right? Not up one. I think that was season two. Angelina got it. Oh, I thought it was earlier.

They weren't very old either. Were they? No, we saw him. Vinny was like 21 when it started. You're talking about J. following him. Paul E. still DJ? Yes.

Is this guy still blue? He was at Baltimore at their... Tail goat. Tail goat. The tail goat, DJ, Polly, D. And I'll tell you, hair's still doing it. They're still doing it.

They're still doing it. Sober. Mike? Mike? Yeah. Situation at one point was a highest paid reality TV star in the entire world.

Hey, that's situation business, baby. What a situation business? He's still on business there. So we're not just getting paid for club visits. You remember those days? That's how they actually made their money. Just showing up at clubs, basically.

In the VIP tonight. Sitch! The Sitch! The Sitch was in, he was in jail with Billy McFarland, I believe, from Firefest. For tax evasion. Hey, did you see the Firefest happened again? He had another one, yeah. Who performed?

There was actual real... French Montana, I think. Mitt was supposed to go, but he didn't. Oh, come on. Hey, Royal Rumbles this weekend. Let's go. 2 p.m. on Saturday. The Riod Rumble?

The Riyadh, Royal Rumble. We were thinking about sending bone, but we were a little bit late on getting all the logistics piece together. It is far away, but it is 2 p.m. in the afternoon, and the Royal Rumble is a special one, isn't it? Foxy, why is the Royal Rumble your favorite? Because it's awesome. You never know who's going to come out of that entrance and pop the whole crowd. I'm expecting some big surprises this year at the Royal Rumble. Wow, that is a Royal Rumble football there to have big surprises.

AJ, who do you think is potentially going to surprise the entire W.D.? the WE Universe at the Royal Rumble. 30 spots. Who's going to fill him? I mean, I don't know if you want to come out first. You want to come out last. We know Tommy Invincible will be in there at some point. He will be coming out of the world. Most likely with his hand raised on top,

but only if the great Fandango does not enter. We need to bring him back up. I know he's flipping houses up in Boston or Maine or whatever, but he's still killing it. So bring him back. I believe Fondango actually just recently retired. I follow him on Instagram. I think he had his final match.

There was actually, I think it was a TNA, I believe. It was a match. But I agree. He deserves to be seen, you know, and people over there in Rio, and I assume they understand. Bet, ba, ba, ba, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-bap-bap. Do you remember that, A.J. or no? I mean, that's, what do you, that, yes, he was my favorite wrestle for like 18 months when he had his run.

I don't know who's baptized. Yeah, but it sounded like he didn't even know his song, though. You didn't even know his music. Oh, come on now. Absolutely. He was, he was my guy for a few years. Maybe Fondong. I mean, Bob Backwin's one, but you know, Fondongo might be too.

Yeah. Dee, but what is the thing you're looking forward to most to the Royal Rombardouss? I mean, honestly, I saw the Texas Rattlesnay working out, so I would love to get that glass break. What? Could you imagine? That would be unreal. But as far as the new school dudes. Fancho won't travel over.

Trip Williams. He's kind of over right now. I would love to see Trick Win. Okay. You want to see Trick Win? Yeah. Yeah. Whop that trick.

Do we know who's in the Royal Rumble turn? Who is the favorite? I know Cody, I believe, was announced he's going out first. I know Sammy Zane better than I fucking win it. I think Ethan Page, current North American NXT champion, is the favorite last time I checked, but I could be wrong. They got better? It got odds on this. I think it might be tough to get actual odds on these things.

I think Cina's a liar and he's coming out on Saturday. Yeah, I think that was all one big lie in that chair. That's too much. the poster, it looks like Goonter's going to win it all. No, Gunter's up there with Braun. Obviously, a massive time to be alive with these boys. I've seen a lot of people saying there's one guy who's

putting himself over more than anybody. That's AJ Stiles. He's not Braun. Jesus. I'm sorry. You can see. That's my first time. He said, Greg, Ed. A.J. Legend, AJ Stiles, obviously.

CM Punk, and he had a match last night for the title in Toronto. Who won? Absolute scenes. Oh, Finn came back in. Finn. Finn. Bala? Finn won? No, no, Finn wasn't in the match. Finn took over it.

Was he the demon or just normal Finn? Just Finn. Yeah, he stays in the demon mode. I like when he goes demon mode. He stayed like this and he had, you know, 2% body-Frey. Roman in it? Is the Miz gonna, can he chance? I don't know.

He is. He declared? Yeah, our tribal chief. How do you declare? Do you just yell it? Yeah. I don't think there's a lot of people that you can just do that. I don't think there's a lot of people that you can certainly do that.

God bless it. Is it in the people? Who? Turkey L. She? Surprise. We don't know. Speed was in their lot. We don't know. Anything's possible of the Rumble. It's true. It's very true.

Speed I saw it. Is it true? They built the stadium in three weeks? So I saw the pictures everybody else's been seeing. Seems like that came together pretty quick. This is a storage container situation or is it legit? I don't know. You saw the pictures. It didn't look like it. But on that note, how did the storage containers think, we all know what happened before, but once they were put

together, how did they're still standing perfectly? But whenever, how did they hold up, though, in actual quality. Unbelievable. Yeah, they were great. Okay, so it does feel like some of these venues have been able to be pieced together pretty quickly. But then there's what, the hockey,

where they're not able to piece it together, something like that. What's going on with the Olympic hockey, Nick? Yeah, pal. They don't even have the change rooms done yet. It's going to be a nightmare. The Italians don't know hockey. What's going on? So what is happening, actually?

Like everything, the entire arenas for, I mean, the ice itself for the hockey games in Italy isn't good. I think there was a like an exhibition on it last week to kind of figure out, you know, just make sure everything works. And there were like divots. Couple holes in the ice, they'll patch that. Don't get that worked up. But it's not the right size.

They don't have a Zamboy. It's not even up to AHL standards right now. I don't know if they finished the roof yet. The locker rooms, the concessions, none of that stuff had been finished. And I think, yeah, what are we two, maybe three weeks away? So they're building a venue, just like what we saw from the pictures for the Royal Rumble?

How long have they known they were having the Olympics? About six years? But you know how these Italians are, AJ? You know, they'll wait until the last second. No, we don't know. We don't know. Tony Romo, how about us not? No, that was all me.

Oh, man. I guess I never thought of him being Italian. I don't think I've ever heard you say that either. Okay, so a lot of people are telling me there. So I just had that in my inner thoughts. I didn't, I would have assumed Italian. I didn't know he was like, I didn't know he's Mexican, honestly. Antonio is a fucking.

That's awesome. Listen, you live your life, Tony. but Antonio in the back pocket. It's an Italian name. Margarita. Just, how about you saying? Anthony is translated into Antonio in different languages.

Obviously, we all understand that. We all understand languages as we do the whole thing. Tony was a surprise today, I will say. Awesome. Yeah. That was cool to hear him kind of talk about being a human, AJ. It was nice to kind of hear how he looks at it. And I didn't think I knew how meticulous he was.

I guess he would have had to have been if he was. an undrafted guy who ends up going on to be an old pro for the Dallas Cowboys, you know? You forget about that because he was a monster for a while. I was playing against him, believe me, when he was, you know, in his prime, he was awesome. What was so good about him? He talked about his instincts. He just didn't have the best arm. He had to work on his arm.

His instincts, is that a thing that made? His timing, get rid of the ball instantly, like his accuracy. I mean, he was so good at throwing to Witton, you know, like trying to cover Witton. When Ritton's run like a, you know, a little eight-yard stick route or something on, it doesn't matter. Before, as Witten is snapping his head around, you got a great. coverage that ball is on his outside hit, bam, and he's turning up to try to get extra yards. Like, they just had a great connection. He was just good, man. Got rid of the ball very

quickly. Yeah, he was a stud. Golfer, too. Unbelievable. He's like a pro-glover. Yeah, pretty much pro-golfer. How is the American Century out there in Tahoe? Who won it last year? It's a great question. It wasn't Marty Fish. Pavelski. Povelski won for the first time. He's been like the final group a few times. Joe He came and he beat maybe Marty Fish was in the final group with him and Steph, I think. Wow. There's some good golf happening out there.

Tony always in the convo whenever he's out there. It feels like people take it very seriously. I don't know if I'm anywhere near good enough at golf to, once I get good at golf, I will try to earn an invite back to the American Central chain. But you should not be out there if you're bad at golf. You're at a disadvantage. A lot of those guys, I'm assuming, because you look outside. Tony's probably golfing right now. Antonio?

Well, Tony X is kind of cold. A lot of them are retired as well. Offed. Every day. That was the first year Pavalski didn't play hockey won the tournament. Oh, so he got a chance.

Let me figure this fuck her out. Let me figure this fucker out. The one's next. The one's going to win, yeah. It's awesome. He approached you like a pro. He was there like on a day, on like a Wednesday,

pro-a-m-day, he was there just working as putting. I'm like, oh, what time you tune off in the afternoon group? He was like, no, I'm just here working. I'm a little putty in my short game. Him and Ms. Him and Ms. Yeah, with the 8 iron. Oh, God.

Miz got that 8, 7 or 8 iron figured out, though. Six, maybe one. Six. He got his golf channel, Ms. Uh-huh. So got his golf channel? He got his golf channel, right? Yeah.

Miz versus or something like that at golf. I think so. Yeah, he still does. He loves golf. God, he loves golf. Yes, he does. Yeah. I hope he wins.

He likes... Beautiful swing. The Royal Rumble? Yeah. Is the Miz in the Royal Rumble? I saw all on ESPN Airwaves this morning. He hasn't declared yet. he said, but he's thinking about it.

Not for long. You might win this. I don't think, I don't think Ms. Miz is on a historic losing streak. I think he's lost for three straight years now, but maybe Saturday the Riyadh rumble I don't know. I saw him at the national

championship winning. They might put him over in Riyadh to be honest. Maybe. Some of the thing, because they could be big real world fans over there. At the time I saw him come in first, okay? He lasted for 48 minutes. Yeah, it was the first entry. Yeah.

Yeah. He almost. won it but he didn't. He put up a good fight. Miz would be great in it. Yeah. His life's one big Royal Rumble anyways. Yeah. Well, sir. I saw Seth Rawlins say he wasn't, dude. I see him doing a lot of TV stuff. He's done wrestling? I think he's

going to be the O.C. for the bills. Did he real injury, Tony, or is he going to work again? No, no. He's doing his one with Honnold. That Honnold shit was. Okay. That was my introduction to him. That was my first time seeing him doing anything. And then

Obviously, all the, you know, comments and stuff, hey, this is nothing. It's a piece of cake. Literally watching that shit, I'm like, he's the greatest athlete ever. Like, because I, you know, you got Tom Brady, Jordan, Serena, you got all these great athletes. And yeah, throwing a ball and wind on the Super Bowl is great. When you're fucking climbing and hanging off doing pull-ups, fucking however many stories. Like, this shit was unbelievable. And watching him, like, I was watching my daughter.

Only one of my daughters would actually sit and watch because the rest of them were like, I'm not watching this guy die. But, I mean, this shit, like climbing these shit, man, this is unfucking believing. It was incredible live television. That's why whenever I start talking about it, I'm trying to talk to people that also watched it live. Because I think if you obviously know the outcome,

it's going to be hard to suspend belief. But obviously, whenever you watch the free solo documentary, you assume he's not going to die in that one. So you watch it knowing that he probably survived. Just watching 91 minutes straight, basically, of a guy potentially dying. is an insane experience. Like, it was an actual insane experience

as it's actually taken place. And he could have taken a couple easier routes. Like, to your point about him whenever he was doing the pull-ups and stuff, there was like a couple decisions he made for entertainment purposes. He could have went around the obstacles. Like, look at all this shit on the side there.

He could have clearly done whatever he was doing for the rest of the time to get up there and say, he's like, I got conquered this thing, actually. Let me fucking hang upside down and kind of go in this entirety. Just so casual, so calm, so cool. And then obviously near the tough. go ahead, just take a load off and take it in, pal.

Go ahead and lock your leg up around this thing. We assume this building is strong enough to be able to hold you. Obviously, it holds itself up so everything's okay. But yeah, it was unbelievable. Greatest athlete of all time, I kind of left. I didn't even, like, think of that. I just thought, like, unicorn of a human. But, yeah, I guess you've got to categorize him as an athlete.

You see a spot. Ten pack. I saw the climbing community said, like, him doing El Capitan is the greatest feat any athlete can ever do in their entire lives. And then watching this, I was like, this is, this is a cake offer. Unless he's climbing a glass building with no ledges, he's going to climb it. No problem. His workouts, too, is Jimmy saw.

He's got like the little fingy things. Yeah. Where it dangles from, so even his muscles and his fingers. And now granted, every moment he spends training is actual life or death. Legit. Like has to be there. Yeah. And that's the thing I compare great athletes, like the greatest athletes perform under the most

pressure. Like this like is death like one wrong step one misgrab and he you hear him up there you know he's like oh I'm kind of tired like I'm kind of wind it like it's not like you can call it he me he took breaks but like hour and a half you climbing this shit like that that shit was unbelievable a lot of people you know giving shit to to the commentary that's kind of an impossible thing to commentate I think I I would prefer to just watch and just listen to him anything he was saying seeing him interact with the people in the fucking windows waving at him. My daughter's like, stop fucking wave, stop waving at him. You don't want him wave back

and die? How about him wanting a high five instead? Hey, what's up? Just so, like, chill. I guess it's called like a flow state, I have no idea. It feels like he just constantly lives in that, even if he's next to death. But him just being like these kids these days with their phones, like cracking jokes, him choosing

to do that climb, him getting up there at the top like kind of stretching. And Seth's saying, like, you step back man or whatever, he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got him. It just kind of turns around. The wind. All right, and then he had to jump off a there was a to get to one of the parts

at the top he had to run up it it was like a oh what are those things about like a crane of some sorts he had to run up a crane and then he had to jump

off crane onto something and there was like a little gap and like the jump drew like a little reaction from the like there was a couple of times the crowd would like react or like clap for him when he did something cool

it was a cool experience man climb or die yeah that is I didn't know he did like a a rock situation, skyscraper, where he jumped from the crane to the building. Yeah, it was like this far. Wait, who did it? The Rock.

Oh, well, yeah. We're not comparing, you know, Ethan Hunt. It's different. Well, the Rock. The Rock didn't actually do that. No, he did. T.C. actually did fucking run around the Birch Khalifa. So let's not. I mean, I love Dewey, but he ain't fucking T.C. If there's one

person who's close to Alex Honnold, it's T. T.C. I bet you T.C. can do that. T. T.C. has the photo from the top of the Burr with no... Just sitting there fucking... Yeah. Photo.

He's flown on planes and hung off... Yeah, hung off plane. He's of that ilk. He is of that ilk. Jump from plane to plane. What do you think his home gym looks like? He's got a bunch of those probably.

Oh, yeah. The Earth is his... He usually just heads down to the Hollywood side, though, and just fucking scales that thing, climbs to the top, and then... Slags down. Usually base jumps off. Yeah.

He back home. Yeah. That's kind of just a fucking Tuesday. Earth is his home. How do you get up there? He fucking climbed up there. No shit. No shoes.

Yeah. And he didn't do it with a bunch of in jeans. He just did it for fun. That's right. For love to game. Yeah. That's right.

Who took the picture? Well, maybe somebody dropped him up. A satellite from space. He's got a selfie stick. Got a helicopter up there and then he fucking jumped on to the bottom of it, crawled into the cockpit and took that helicopter back to the wherever they had to look. Actually, I think I heard that the air was too thin, the helicopter couldn't make it up there. It was a fighter jet that he had to jump off.

Oh, time it up. That could be two. That could be two. And have 14? Was that possible? certainly possible all right I think we're done here don't you

I don't know it's good good I think so the rumble really brought us into a great conversation yeah is Alex Honored in the rumble I hope he should be they need something cool on Saturday you're right you're doing it right now dude him on the road

squeeze in yeah never getting him off of there just a handshake just you want to do a handshake cool good luck got back gone that's it right now that's it right now there. Yeah, like Bam Bam. Yeah. Yep.

Arnold's handlock. Oh. Netflix. Shit writes itself. Netflix ties. Yeah, but I think it's on ESPN. Yeah, but you know. But the business is, Seth was there. He shouldn't, though, because Seth Freakins

been waiting to fucking stomp his brains out since he was in, you know, watching him. He was just waiting. Is Seth freaking in? The architect of destruction? Yeah, he'll be there. Is he healthy? Is he healthy? No, I'm not.

but it's the rumble, baby. You fucking expect the unexpected. Is that your favorite thing about the rumble? To expect the unexpected? Yeah, you know, because I'm expecting fucking Kurt Engel to come out at 30. Yeah. Yeah.

Would that be heel or? Be it. I don't know. I don't know. That would be it. We learned a lot. Yeah, we would. Right there in real time.

Could you imagine that hits? American flag comes up full. He fucking tears ass down in the ring and fucking angle slams turkey a la Turkey. I think he does 13 of them. Yeah. For the college.

Animal luck. Angle lock. Right into it. That would be awesome. That's what I'm hoping. And then obviously, Turkey, obviously Turkey overturns that,

breaks through. I don't know. It turns out. You know, the whole thing. What time? Two. Too hard. Anything is Paul.

On Espin? Yeah. Jesse the body might come out. I think it is on ESPN. That's not very clear. Which one? Yeah, which one do I have to sign up for? Car shield.

What's that? Which one do we have to try to sign up for to watch this? ESPN Ultimate. Okay. I've had it. What is that? The Paramount thing with UFC was interesting for me. I had not dabbled much over there.

I got in there through Prime. And then when I got there, then there was a prelim show. But the prelim show was over, but it was still the first. first off, like, I had to get through it a couple different times to figure it out. Then there was some freezing, I think. Anytime new place has to stream something, there's just like immediate learning lessons, I think. But Paramount has spent a lot of money on all this shit, so I'd assume that they would like

it to get fixed. A lot of commercials people are upset about that's because you're not really paying for the pay-per-view, right? So it's more like a commercial model. Others in that stuff, though, I saw people love, like, the coverage aspect of Paramount. Well, then there's also recaps available. All the fights are available right now, I think, on Paramount. Like, the way they're breaking up.

it down and clipping it basically for people to watch. I think it's good. Paramount seemingly moving a lot of money into a lot of different spaces, including sports and UFC going over there and doing big numbers, which I assume is going to happen, will only lend itself to more. And now you got NFL another place to potentially land a primetime game. Yeah, like for you guys, you guys went prime to Paramount Plus. Like I bought Paramount Plus originally through Apple. Me too. So I went to Apple and then went to Paramount Plus. What are you old boys?

They don't have the live stuff like the UFC on the Paramount Plus app through Apple. So then I had to figure that out. Then go download the Paramount Plus app. Then again, but then your email and password for your Apple doesn't work for your Paramount Plus. Then you have to reset password. Oh, no. Yeah. It's tough to see.

I was getting so fucking pissed because usually that stuff's fairly easy. And I clicked on the same thing about a thousand times. they can like one of these times. It's just going to like update and I'll be in it. No, it just kept sending me to, you know, UFC 323. 6 weeks ago. And I said, yeah, I get it. I don't want to fucking watch this.

I want to watch the live one. And then eventually you get out of the app. You get into Paramount Plus. You download it in it. And it worked fine. But it took me about 30 minutes. Took some time. Oh, that's a rough start.

Oh, I got to the point where I was like, you know what? Just on principle. I'm never watching a fucking UFC event again, ever. First impressions are tough to overcome. But then, you know, it worked and I didn't have any like internet issues, any glitching like it. Once I actually got in there, like it was perfect. Remember Netflix had issues with the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson's stuff.

Anytime, I assume anytime somebody ventures into the live sports or a live thing, there's a lot to learn, you know, because places crash, you know, places crash. Backends, you can't handle a amount of action or traction, especially with what sports can bring. It's a good problem to have, but first, the pressures are tough for people. Yeah. You know, there's some people that'll hold that against Paramount forever. Zufa? Good. Anybody check the sweet science out on Zufa?

Bruce Watch, I believe, the entirety of it all. Bruce is going to become a full-on Zufa fan because we do believe with the ages of the fighters and what they're projecting to do, you can kind of follow their story or. This is kind of the beginning of a lot of stories in boxing, right? Yeah, I'm a Zuffaholic. Kaelan Walsh was on the...

He was the headliner of the main card. He's an Irish lad from County Cork. He handled business, no person. problem. Not a ton of upsets or like real fireworks outside of this one guy, Hammer Hands, who I think was from North Jersey who was just like fucking laying it out there.

And what did he do? What did Hammer Hands do? He had a nice flurry to end the match and then immediately afterwards he was like, Dana, any more money to feed my kids. So we got those issues over there. So yeah, hey. That was quick. Hey, that was quick. That's first fight. Wow. That's first fight. I did not see that coming.

Yeah, it was first fight. Okay. Yeah, because me and Bruce were talking about because Bruce was like Because it is something we should follow. Because they're going to try to create boxing stars is kind of what they're trying to do. They're trying to create their own, promote their own, you know, they'll bring in big stars, but they want their own title system, their own point system. They kind of want to have a monitored boxing, and they're all fans of boxing, so they feel like they're kind of doing it all. But, yeah, I feel like you can, you can maybe pick a fighter here, you know?

And Hammer Hands was going to be the guy I was going to pick. And then Bruce sends a follow-up, and he's like, oh, yeah, also immediately after the flight. what he says. I think you might be fighting this Friday as well. They're just going to run back. What? It has to. I like that. Hammer Hands, dude.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This was going to be my guy. It's his great name and all this stuff. And I'm like, are we ever going to see him again? You know, because what he just did with, you know, like, this is the gift horse thing. Yes, that's not. This is the gift horse. They're going to feed him to the wolves.

It's not good, man. What do you mean? Hammer Hands is ready for. Is his head ready for? Who's he fighting? I'm learning this in real time. Tyson Fury. Is Hammer Hands are a guy?

Who's Kaelin, you said out of County Cork. Yeah, Kaelim Walsh out of County Cork. He's kind of like the big name. They announced a name that I had not heard and was tricky to pronounce for the panel. So he'll be joining the card. But that's a big thing. Bringing in fighters big names to kind of get behind is going to be key. It kind of felt like a soft launch.

Like, hey, the restaurant's open, but it's like a stress test. That's what Zufa Boxing 01 felt like a bit. Because of where it was broadcasted from, how it was broadcast it from, and the way they went about it? Yes, it was like, hey, can we, like, proof of concept, like, can we pull this off at the UFC Apex? And I think they did. The fights were pretty good. What does that mean? Like, remember Times Square. Oh, my God. Those were so bad. Do you remember that?

Historically, low amount of punches thrown for every single fight. Tom and Jerry. Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, do you want to get into the boxing road? Sounds like something, you know, that you might be interested in. Here's some storylines. Here's this. Here's where business is potentially going.

We'll be able to have access to be able to do this. Yeah. Fuck. I respect it. And I virtual box all the time. I respect it. I'm in there knocking out, you know,

ugly Joe and stuff. You know, I got it all. So I was like real excited to go there. And then literally we get into it. And it's just like the worst boxing in the history of boxing. And it's in the middle of Times Square. And it's like,

I enjoyed the environment. I enjoyed like, the vibes maybe, you know, like the vibes of boxing were awesome. It felt like it was a big event. You know, there was people there was big seats, big chairs. And then in the in the ring, it's like, oh, they can kind of decide what they want to do in there. It's kind of a, we're kind of banking it on that. It was terrible.

And then we had the next day too, right? Yeah. Booker T with us, though. I mean, that was unbelievable. We absolutely dominated the pre-show. Booker T needs to be on more TVs. That needs to happen. He was phenomenal for two straight days getting to hang out with him.

I don't know if we're going to be doing a bunch of boxing, but I will follow along with the Zufaholics. As long as they're fucking throwing hands, then I will be there. But they should sign Booker T and have them be the fight analyst. Who was doing the commentary? I think it was Joe Tess on the play-by-play. It was good and solid,

and then Max Kellerman was doing the color. Joe Tess. Roy Jones, Jr. with him as well? I don't believe so. I think it was somebody else. Molly? Molly was doing panel, pre-show. panel the hosting for the pre-post.

Who else was on there? Shout out. I didn't see much of the panel. UConn Legend. Shout out. Oh, yeah. What's going on here? Coach Kendall sitting it over. Jason? Mm-hmm. What's his name?

Thank you, Coach. Jason Kendall. Who's he coach? What's he could do? Yukon. He's our new coach. Going to take us to the Promise Land. Baysie, did you see what Kirk Kennedy did in Indiana, Bloomington? Yeah. Storesonet on that.

Has he wasn't seen the ghosts yet? Nah, ghost ain't fucking with him Who's the ghost? That was Jim Morris. Mara went and saw the ghost And they started playing a lot better Oh yeah, the haunted house More is more alright

Marr, yeah She saw the ghost And then he did fucking left He did so well He did so well up there He goes to Colorado State He earned his way up there He tossed a Miami helmet up there

Butch, geez He went to the Natty You went to Miami? No, horse Oh, okay So the Yvonne does make sense Independent school. Nobody talks about that whenever they talk about Notre Dame.

I think Gumpie just got buried. I missed it. Tony plays for the Steelers, too. No, I'll play for Topka. America. Hell yeah. You thought your Duques and Elva was there. I know you did. No, I actually, earlier in the show, saw that. I was like, should I move Dickaking up here? And I said, no, fucking Mavs. Mavs where I rest.

Oh, the Dukes? I mean, that's unbelievable. This making an appearance up here, though, is certainly a fascinating thing because we will have to talk about. They would love for the situation with Notre Dame happen with them, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think they actually are. They would love that.

They would carve out their own little agreement? Different landscape. Now, if Yukon was ranked in the top 12, would they get a chance to be in automatically because of the Notre Dame rule as an independent school? They better be. If they go undefeated, would they be in the top? 12. It's a thought exercise.

We don't even have to entertain. Shut up, Nick. Okay, we don't know. We do know. Next, Joey Fadano is? Who? You don't even know the name of your quarterback. Joey Fonono.

He was talking about Joey Fonano. Yeah, I understand. Jason Candle here, the new head coach. You guys got a tough schedule coming up. You got that first game. That's a tough coach. And then you got Maryland there. Then you got Syracuse, UMass, U.N.

see James Madison. Oh, Old Dominion. Can see them in the top 12. Will they get the Notre Dame Clause as an independent school, AJ? What's your vote right now if you're in the room where it happened? I'd say, if Yukon goes undefeated, we're putting them in the playoffs, right? Thank you. Our home schedule.

I mean, yeah. Oh, we got more games. I didn't know if you guys were able to You just need to know if we take care of business that we got a chance. What you told me this? Jason Caintle's at the first round the last three years, right? So disrespectful. What did you say? I didn't know if you guys could fill a full schedule.

I didn't know. I had no idea. Sometimes it's hard to book. Six games. Sometimes I didn't know if that was the full thing right there. You know, that's not a bad thing. The Coltina-Colid. Where'd he go?

What do you mean? He's prepared for the draft, no. Oh, okay. He's got it. He came. He elevated. East West Run. He elevated from Wisconsin.

He came to us. Now he's going to NFL. Indiana's odds on favorite to win the Nadi next year, just because everybody believes in Kurt Signetty? They were. I don't know if it's changed. Artie Smith goes to Ohio State. Where's Alby going?

They are. Where's Alby? So Georgia Tech on draft kings. Yeah, on draft kings, there are four teams at plus 700, IU, Texas, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. And the Mensa thing that just happened down in Duke, he is now going to Miami? Yes. What took place there? So he had signed a contract with Duke to return this year.

And then he decided, you know, he didn't want to. want to do that anymore. So then Duke sued him for that for trying to leave and going into the transfer portal. Yeah, a breach of contract, if you will. And then it went to the courts, and then they settled today for an unknown amounts, and now he will be going to be the

quarterback at Miami. So Miami gets Duke's quarterback. Duke just won the ACC. Miami just made it to the national championship. And now Duke's quarterback's heading down to South Florida. And I believe also their wide receiver, right? Duke's wide receiver is also heading

down to Miami. Within the ACC, that's obviously a cold world. That's a cold game for Duke. They try to assume to keep them there. Feels like they used a good bit of their 20 million that they got from making it to the national championship to pay a couple Duke guys.

Smart. Thank you for your service, Manny Diaz. We'll never forget you. Young money, figure it out. Is he great, Mentsa? He will be. Yeah, he's good. He could move, too, man.

4,000 last year. Got weapons. out there on the outside. We did lose Miami did lose Joe Joe Trader to NC State and they have a dog and quarterback as well. Another ACC, I mean, ACC might bring it next year. Yeah, yeah.

What was that, Ty? Ty. Why are you so disgusted for? Ty almost puked over there. They brought it this year. They did bring it this year. But it just wasn't quite good enough, was it? Because there's a conference that's predominantly in the Midwest of the United States of America

that kind of is going to be running college football for the foreseeable future. And that was before Artie Smith fucking said, you know what? Yeah, I'm going to be the O'C at Ohio State. It does feel like it's the Big Ten's time, doesn't it? It does. Nick Saban even said it.

Nick Saban acknowledged it. AJ, I know you guys can feel it at Ohio State because you've kind of always had it, but it does feel like more and more Big Ten schools are going to be able to be able to compete. And I think that's because the business and the money behind it does provide a lot of opportunity. Like Iowa always be able to buy

somebody that's good. That's right. That's unfortunate because Iowa kind of, I was never going to do that. They're going to win nine games. Well, you brought in quarterback's multiple times. You got the D2 Housman you came in here. He was the bell of the ball. He was the best. He was. Iowa guys are really showing out of the straddle. Yeah, Wedging. He's going to be good in the NFL. Definitely had to pay Cooper DeGine. No, no. See guys like that who come from small town rum dumb Iowa, like they want to go to Iowa. But it's like when we have these opportunities in the transfer portal.

You're going to see Iowa grabbing guys from Old Dominion, I believe, tied in from Yukon, coming to Iowa, you know, James Madison. We're going to get those kind of guys. That won a national championship for Coach Sidney, though. Well, he didn't go with Coach Signetti to Indiana. He stayed at JMU. So they're grabbing guys like that, you know, they're not really, they're not really big game hunting per se, you know.

So they're hunting the right for us. They like our guys. What was that? We like our guys. That was rude of Ty to say that. We got the others from JMU. Not going big game hunting, as he says. That's well said.

We hope the Big Ten continues its dominance, but I'll tell you what. Oregon's going to be really good next year. Yeah, always. Yeah, but I think next year might be Dan Lanning's kind of. Everyone's coming up. His time. Yeah. Has to be.

Yeah, the boys are making a lot of decisions kind of come back and try to run the table together. And Dan Lennon will be able to utilize that. And obviously, they've been able to utilize that. had a lot of success very quickly in the Big Ten. Can they continue it? Big Ten country right now in a middle of quite a snow and cold storm. They're saying a cold front's coming. Yep. What?

Our kids ever going back to school? Is school canceled for you guys around there? Okay. So yesterday, I believe there's a little school thing near here for preschool of toddler stuff. They were shut down yesterday. I think they were back open today. So I don't know. I know our school district.

Daycare is open back up, but I know the school district still close. Yeah, HSE has canceled. canceled yesterday and today as well. And then the cold front's coming. They're saying negative seven or something like it. Yeah. They ain't good for buses. Buses don't respond well.

And I guess the buses were snowed in. That is why they had canceled school. Most snowfall in one day since when? Do we remember the year? 1970 something, I thought. No, was it? Yeah, it was a total snow match something from 2021 or something like that. I forget, like more recent.

But then single day fall was something like way back, like way, way back. Because we had like a 1978, yeah, 11. point something inches in one day. Look crazy. It was crazy. In the sky, like, just looked like as far as you can see, just white. Like, it was crazy. A lot of people thought I was flying over Greenland.

Yeah, you had a good video. Were you thinking, is that where you were? You were missing yesterday. Maybe. Snowed out, maybe doing a little negotiations up there coming back. No, but it looked insane. And obviously, seeing all the reports and all this shit. Not being here was something, but it was crazy, man.

Yeah. I'm glad you guys made it safely yesterday. Yeah, I mean Shite? Oh. Shite. They cleaned them up, though, today, I think. They did a pretty good job out here today.

I don't know about everywhere, but yeah, the roads were bad. You know, I think everywhere the roads are bad, though. I don't know, maybe up in the Rockies where there's a bunch of snow. I don't know how they handle it or up there in New England. In Pittsburgh, I don't think it was ever, like, handled properly. Like, there was always like some sort of complaint about. Boy, are they mad? Who's that?

The mayor came out yesterday and said, we have 90 salt. and plow trucks. 37 of them broke yesterday. So they're down a third of their third of their units. Well, it's not only that, too. Sometimes it's a reactive operation as opposed to a forward thinking operation

or forecasting operation because they only have a certain amount of salt that they've purchased going into the snow season. So they have to project how much salt they can use and everything like that throughout and then how much of the season is left. So I don't think anybody's ever really figured it out. And they certainly didn't hear.

How about over there, not right? Not good? roads are okay now but yeah the last couple days they were not I don't know if it's ever good you know I genuinely don't know and then I think back to when I was a kid like it feels like they used to like pepper the salt on the road before the storm so thousand percent they used to pepper it but then I assume they missed so many times and snow didn't come that they viewed it as a massive amount of money just getting kind of thrown away

so maybe they don't do it now because of that like because we've all had situations where they're like something's coming something's coming and then nothing comes which I guess maybe I thought about this particular one this has certainly not been that at all this has been a pretty wild fucking winter storm here this has been crazy you look at the stuff coming out of like south of Indiana oh yeah and north no power or whatever all over the ice storm

like the ice hanging on the trees bringing them down like that's I'm glad we didn't get that we just got massive amounts of snow and really cold really cold yeah you and your side by side out there getting after it was good for the community did you go do the neighbor's driveway like 50 times yeah I mean I was out there so much. It didn't matter. I'm, you know, I try to wait until the snow stops, and the snow went on for 24 straight hours. So I'm just, I plowed, I come back, I do my in-law's house. I come back and my driver looks like I'd never even plow it.

Continue to go over and over. Yeah, you had fun. You had fun, dude. I loved it. Yeah, I got it. Yeah. I got it in September. See, I need to put it to use. All the snowblowers were out in the neighborhood, all of them. Oh, we got this for this reason, right here. This is it. We're the heroes, and they look awesome. And then the snow plow comes from the street and it just blocks the entire front of the thing, builds a fort up in front of the whole thing. Snowbank. Oh, man.

I see so many videos coming to people shoveling and then just the snowbank, a boom, right back in there. That's a hard road, but that's a road's going to stay clear as well. Here's AJ out there doing it for the community, which we're incredibly grateful for. Big thumbs up. Has a stick probably, I assume, and a side by side. Definitely fish tailing that thing a little bit around as he's plowing. Is that accurate, AJ?

Oh yeah, I took it all over the main roads And yeah, I almost took out Eight to ten mailboxes My daughter was riding shotgun Because I let her She wanted to try a little bit Yeah, it was I was just teaching her how to

You know, hey, don't panic When you start fished tailing You got to slow We just steer into it Don't jam the brakes You know, I learned that for my grandpa How old? Oh my daughter, she's 15

So like she needs to learn She's learning how to drive Yeah, she's about to get into it For real, that's a good thing Putting it in neutral Whenever you're coming to a stop Obviously because even whenever you just Have it in drive

There's a little bit of power going to your wheels We don't need any power going into wheels, especially if there's ice there. Let's go ahead and drop it in there. You try to remember all those things as you're driving in the snow out here. I have no idea how Pittsburgh worked with all those hills.

Indiana, like right now, it's like, it's not that hill. No. So it's not that bad. The hills where people are... Yeah, I don't... The ice under the snow. People just have regular cars

in a place like this. Like, sedans. Throw sandbags in a trunk. So, like, you got to have... You got to have issues. Gotta at least have all wheeled, four-wheel driving, whatever it is. And they're the fastest drivers on a row every time. The little one.

Yeah, I'll see you in about 10 minutes. And there's a tree. Yeah, that's crazy, the devastation they could take place. Everybody be safe out there. Let's stay warm. It's cold world. Any new gimmicks? Anybody try any new gimmicks?

I saw flame throwers. I love flame throwers. I saw the tarp that you said you're not going to try. That tarp was brilliant. Now, the issue would be the tarp would have been frozen to the thing. And that thing would weigh, I don't know, roughly like 50,000 pounds trying to move that. Yeah, it would be freezing. But as I saw it, it's a good idea, like for when you're painting at the house, kind of similar concept.

It's not a bad idea that I keep it clean. The flamethrer, I like that idea. I like the concept. I think I saw Jordan Davis doing it. He was, yeah. It didn't look like it was melting as fast as out. It wasn't doing anything. Yeah, it didn't look.

So, like, it looks cool, but. I don't think it even matters. Get a fucking shovel. Sorry, electric shovel. That works. Electric shovel. Oh, who are I see? What's that?

Jim Jones. You mean the pushes like the... Oh, I've seen a lot of videos of the... You know how Foxy had the robot that cut his grass? I saw a lot of... A Roomba? Yeah. Yeah, similar.

I saw a lot of robots snowblowers. No, I saw... The robot snowblowers had a big weekend. An electric shovel. What do you mean an electric shovel? I mean, I didn't watch the entire video. It's like a miniaturized snowblower. It kind of looks like a broom,

electric broom almost, you could call it. But, like, it works good for a couple inches, but like, it wouldn't have done much with that foot we got up. I like the ideas that we're trying to come up with them because it gets real cold, real painful out there. Your back really starts feeling it whatever you got. It still hurts. Because you're out there with a shovel. Yeah. Weren't you going to get a snowblower at one point? Yeah, I went in to Ace Hardware and I just decided, you know what, I'm not going to spend fucking $2,400 bucks on a snowblower.

How come? Because that's fucking ridiculous. And I told the guy that, said nobody's going to fucking buy this thing. Mark that down $1,400 and then somebody might. Now give me fucking six bags of ice melt. And you think about what you've done. I was serious. I mean, I'm not kidding. I went in there with no hesitation. I'm buying a fucking snowblower. And Diggs and Nick both have an electric one.

In my mind, always. Electric snowblower is fucking Mickey Mouse. But I'll get it because I'm not going to need to use it multiple times. I don't need one of them fucking big gas powered rig. This is once every two years. Exactly. I look at the gas powered rig. I said 1,500.

I'm like, well, not that bad. I'd turn over. I mean, this thing was taking up six aisles with how fucking big it was. It says right in the box does not come with battery or charger. The snowblower on its own was fucking $1,600. And then if you wanted everything to actually make it be able to work, it was $2,400.

I said, you know what? Fuck that. I'm going to fucking go home and shovel. How's your back feel? I'll tell you what, it was fine until the plows came in. And I had to go do the end of my driveway when the snow was up to my waist. and each scoop weighed fucking 150 pounds. And they never stopped.

No. It was one scoop after a more. Yeah. And I went on and on and on and on. I shoveled over the course of two days. I shoveled probably for about five hours. But I tell you what, the sense of accomplishment you get

when you're done fucking shoveling the driveway, there are few things that top that. All right. Well, maybe you get another opportunity at it. No, no, because I told him, I'm never fucking doing that again. I'm going to turn around. I'm going to go buy that snowblower.

Smart. Yeah. My back hurts so fucking bad. Smart. It's like movers. Yeah. Yeah. Understandable.

And that guy knew $2,400 bucks. You did. And I know it's still sitting there because nobody's fucking dumb enough except for me to go back and buy that thing. Well, I'm pulling for you. Good luck. Snowblower. You guys look like heroes whenever time comes. You couldn't wait to put the photo or the video.

Well, someone questioned me, so I had to do it. And then I got, you know, all the hardos about it. being electric and not gas when my driveway's not big enough to need a gas, you know, but here we are. Shouldn't be wearing a cowboy hat. Should just shut the fuck up all the time. So here. Oh, is this guy okay?

Jeez. Is everything okay? I don't know. This guy's a hero, I was trying to say. Huh? That apple break you down. That app will break you. Especially when you're in the streets,

defendant coach McCarthy all weekend long. Seems like a lot. I actually heard somebody today say, man, I've never seen a universal response to a coach hiring. before and Fox has gone to the bathroom. Oh man, that's a son of a bitch. We're still going on from the first hour?

Oh yeah, since 1.30. Oh, yeah, coach. Damn. On that no. It's been a hell of a day. Happy Super Bowl season, everybody. Hell yeah. We have

somebody's on tomorrow. It's really big. Oh, Mike Tarita. Italian Mike. He, are you sure? Fais on. Fault on. Yes, he is. Okay.

His words, not mine. All right. We would definitely dive into that. Can't go O for two in two days. Can't do that. Tony Robo today. Mike Tariko tomorrow. Excited about that.

We got some surprise guests coming to this show on Radio Row next week that I think will be hilarious. We got some very hilarious and good football situations brewing. DeButs. Thanks for breaking down a little D.C. With the shove on the quarter's coverage that should have been happening on back end. So Jackson Smith and Jigba is his wide ass open. And we got Cooper Cup taking a guy away from so he's even more open. I got a text for Rams coach.

Told me I nailed it. Well, I got a text from, we all got a text from Chuck Bugano. It said, yeah, let's go breakdown. Shove and execute is the next one because that's the coach's excuse. Yeah, yeah. Coach's excuse. He's like, yeah, we can call it, we can teach it. But executing it is kind of part of it.

That's the coach is saying. It's on you guys. Yeah. Get that done. Love you, Chuck. We do love you, Chuck. What a wild ear was for him, I assume. Tough.

Love you, coach. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Let's wait for the end of Foxy's pee. What?

Oh, wait for Foxy. What if he's dumping? He said, I got a pee in my ear. Tell you what that guess is. fourth quarter guest list next week is long and distinguished very robust there's some cool names on there great you all right age you get a cramp I realized I got like cigar ash all with my head no he just refuses put up the four I like that you just put no I had my floor if I noticed you lift with ash instead of chalk

it's because you're an absolute fucking weapon dude I respect that team on me team on three Foxy's back from his P shout of you Foxy we waited for you thank you shit Anything you say to the team? Hell yeah. Happy Super Bowl season. One, two, three, team. Goodbye!