The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1497 - Logan Paul, Ravens Head Coach Jesse Minter, Trinity Rodman, Bills Head Coach Joe Brady, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the Super Bowl matchup, Drake Maye still being years away from his prime, the turmoil happening in Cleveland after hiring Todd Monken as Head Coach, as well as everything else happening in the sports world. They are also joined by four incredible guests including The Maverick, Logan Paul to chat about the Royal Rumble, new Baltimore Ravens Head Coach Jesse Minter, Team USA soccer and NWSL superstar Trinity Rodman, and new Buffalo Bills Head Coach, Joe Brady. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome, on this Super Bowl season Thursday, January 29, 2026. This program begins now. Football! It is awesome, and obviously we're in the middle of Super Bowl season. Happy Super Bowl season to all of you. We find out who the best in the world is just a little over a week from now. As the New England Patriots and as the home team,

which we don't think really makes a lot of sense, with the number two seed. And Seattle Seahawks for a number one seed. So you would think the Seattle Seahawks, since they had a higher seating would be categorized as the home team. They are not, I guess, just because it's alternating years, kind of how it all goes.

AFC's picking the uniforms. They're going all whites. They're going all whites at the Super Bowl. The Seattle Seahawks, Sam Donald, and McDonald, will try to become world champions once again for the Pacific Northwest as the Revolution region represents the AFC in a brand new way. Now the former coach of their dynasty, not a first ballot hall of favor.

No, no. Now people talk about how it's the greatest dynasty maybe in the history of sports as a whole. And there's certainly other dynasties within the NFL's run as a 100-plus-year-old league, the best league in the world. You can certainly give the Niners a nod, the Cowboys a nod, the Chiefs. I think you can give one. Are the Philadelphia Eagles in the middle of one right now? Who knows? But the greatest dynasty in everybody's eyes is what the New England Patriots were.

for 20-some years, every other year, it seemed like they were going to the Super Bowl. And Tom Brady, this handsome, smart guy, he had to be cheating. Well, there was a couple stories about that. When you're at the top of the mountain for that long, there's certainly going to be people trying to figure out how the hell they're able to beat everybody else.

Well, maybe it's because they just were that damn special. And the rest of the world had to kind of live in their kingdom. And now it feels as if we might be entering it again. And I don't know if everybody's loving it, but I do know it feels like a brand new model, but it's the same old formula. You got a dog as a coach, you got a great young quarterback, and a team that is fully bought in over there in New England,

and they've built the same thing in Seattle. Four and a half point spread. 71% of the bets are still on the Seattle Seahawks, who we've seen offensively perform much better than the New England Patriots have performed offensively throughout this playoff run. Has weather been a factor, or has it been the easiest run in the history of football for the New England Patriots? That's what they're saying.

We all find out next Sunday is this. Super Bowl kicks off from Santa Clara, California. And next week, we'll be live from Radio Row in San Francisco, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and let me tell you, the guest lineup is insane. We're kind of getting a hang of this thing, though. You know, we've been there a few times. They're starting to get kind of what the, you know,

it is a NASCAR pit basically in there. That's the Radio Row is we got brands everywhere. Brain, bam, bam, bam, bam, boom, boom. Who else had to deal with the NFL? Everybody did. So they all get their kind of their place there. Well, they all have at least a person that should come and talk about their business, a little bit to travel around all the other places.

Yeah, so now you just got a collection of just humans representing brands they've never heard of before an email just yesterday to come walk through Radio Row and maybe get $5,000 to $10,000 to talk about this company that you certainly use. On that note, you're going to be in the middle of a blender of media all over the place. People are doing interviews in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then they walk two steps, and they walk right on to our set, and we get a chance to chat with them. It is a magical thing, this radio row. It is the Super Bowl.

The Radio Row is the Super Bowl. So we kind of got a hang of it now. We got emails coming in, people wanting to come on a show, you know, because there was a couple times there where it was like, oh, do these people? And then people just start walking on the stage. Then we start doing the entire thing. And it's really like a reunion of the year down there

as we see everybody that we've talked to you from afar. But it's also a celebration of football, which is what we're in the middle of right now. A lot of new hirings, a lot of new conversations taking place around the league. We got two head coaches. is joining us today. Boom. Brand new head coach of Baltimore Ravens.

Jesse Mentor, fresh out of his press conference, he just had, introducing him to the Baltimore Ravens fan base as their new head coach. Obviously incredible defense in mind, okay, this guy, one national championship at Michigan with Harbaugh followed him to the Chargers, Derwin James' stats before and after he gets there, their defensive stats before and after he gets there, obviously taking an immense turn. If you're a defense coordinator getting a head coaching job, you've certainly had to do well, but you've also had to certainly impress people in the best. buildings in which you were in. He was in the Ravens building before. Obviously,

Bashati, the entire crew knew him. Him walking back in there, felt like he was back at home. He'll be joining us in about 25 minutes or so. And then Joe Brady, Caucasoid with fresh fade all the time. That's right. New head coach of the Buffalo Beals, former offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Beals, will be joining us at 1.30. Now, he's taking this team, obviously not into a next era, but also into a brand new stadium. New digs, you know, new bison outside of the Whole new era of the Buffalo Bills. How will Joe Brady handle the immense expectations

of what this Buffalo Bills team has to do? As Sean McDermott got released, let go into the wild. He'll take a year off. Joe Brady will now become the head coach of an MVP quarterback and a team that he knows very well. Good luck to him.

He'll join us at 130. And then, oh yeah, we have Trinity Rodman joining us. She's the highest paid, we think, we believe, the highest paid professional women's athlete of all time. She just signed a three or two million dollar a year deal with the team in Washington, and we looked it up. We don't think anybody, so like American, what's that?

Not including endorsements, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're talking just from sport. Yeah, salary from sport. And also I think there's maybe some golfing things that could potentially win in like tennis you can win, I think. We're talking salary from sport. Like, hey, this is what you were making from League for sport. Most in the world.

Hell yeah, American women's soccer. Unreal. That is unreal. Two million, three years. That means there's only going to be more of those going forward. And she's 23. And I got a chance to beat her in person. Dog, it was great chatting with her.

Immediately right into, like, talking shit, you know, like immediately into it. It felt like she was obviously incredibly affable. And then she's phenomenal in the field. She was captain for the first time against Paraguay. do believe this past weekend scores a goal, then does the sexy dexie dance. Okay, coach doesn't do the dance with her. So then next game against Chile, she's going to score again. How you doing? Keep it moving. Same move. Huh? Huh? And coach gets after. Hell yeah. Okay. So now we got good times, good vibes, great skills, and elite personality. It feels like the future of the U.S.

women's soccer is on the rise again. And I think that's a great thing because the U.S. women's soccer team, global dominance has just kind of been synonymous with who they are as a father of a two-year, old girl. Hey, I got a good kick. Here we go. And I think she's a lefty. Really? Yeah, yeah. So we can obviously work out a lot of different things. So, you know, I'm eyeing, because I potentially understand a sport a little bit more.

I'm like, okay, baby girl's going to get going. But I don't think it's just soccer. I think all the women's sports is kind of growing. We've got a professional women's volleyball team here. Yeah. They fill up. They fill up the Fischer's Event Center. The Fisher's Event Center

or whatever. It's like Trinity is a great person for this thing to kind of follow behind. And I can't wait to chat with her. I'm excited to learn a little bit more about her. She's the real deal. Six mil? Yeah, I mean. NWSL?

That's crazy. We looked up like the European soccer or women's soccer because I know they have like each club. I think most of the big clubs have a women's team as well. And then, you know, obviously internationally, there's a lot of women's soccer teams. The She Believes Cup, I think we win that one too. The World Cup one, we won four times. I think the gold medal, we have five of them or whatever. So that's kind of our thing.

It's kind of our thing. And Trinity's like Yameel over there on that left side. Is that his name? Lameen, Yama. Yeah, him. There is. Hell yeah. She's on that left side.

Just scoring all the time. We're unstoppable. We win the next 10 World Cups. That's a beautiful thing. And then we'll also have Logan Paul joining us in about 10 minutes. Good. He's in a Royal Rumble. Today's pretty big good.

Toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Conman's Super Bowl season, brother, you're back in it. It does feel like it's a far time away. Feels like we've had a couple days of off-season football here. And then obviously all the energy kind of kicks back up now. Wednesday. Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, for me, I'm ingratiated every single second of every single day. You know, for you guys not having as much skin in the game, I'm sure it is a little further away. For me, fun stat I saw yesterday or this morning, kind of forget it all blends together as you're

waiting for the Super Bowl. Josh McDaniels going in to call his ninth Super Bowl, which is ridiculous. I don't know how many OCs. I know he has at least three, possibly four, and then maybe going on his fifth offensive coordinator in the Super Bowl for him, which is amazing. And then the miced-dub stuff that has come out from the AFC and NFC championship on both sides has been remarkable. Drake May, talking to his team, talking to the

coaches. I believe we have one of him talking to Josh McDaniels here. Hard. I know. Good God. Listen. Look at me. It's going to be hard. But look, this will be the most rewarding six and a half minutes of our lives if we can get it done.

What a speech. What a speech from Josh McDaniels in real time. And the moment, you think he was expecting Drake May, his 23-year-old quarterback to say, man, this is like, this is so hard right now. Hard as shit. And then just having to immediately go into

the, all we have is the six inches in front of us and it's like him immediately going into inspiration, motivation in that moment. You talk about nine Super Bowls he's been in. It's like, there's a reason. That was an impressive moment of coaching, I thought, of like leadership whenever I saw that clip. And I also appreciate the fact that this is

a 23-year-old man. He's a experiencing a lot of these things for the first time. They didn't know if he was going to be able to win games in a playoffs. Until we see him win some games, we don't want to hear it. We don't want to hear it. Which is obviously a realistic conversation because we've seen some people in the biggest moments kind of shit to bed.

Is Drake May going to be one of those guys? Now, has he played his absolute best football in the playoffs? No. Is he in a Super Bowl? Is a 23-year-old in his second year and first year in a system? Yes. This dude's unbelievable. And what that video showed me is that first of all,

Josh McDaniels, Drake May obviously very close. Yes. Okay, Josh McDaniel's incredible. I see now why he is who he is. That was a matter. Who knows the moments he's had to have with Tom. Everybody sees Tom at the end when he's the goat. What about whenever, you know, he was in his building process,

still trying to get better. There's moments of, what's that called whenever you're, like, open up moments of vulnerability? There it is, yeah. I try to stay away from those. But there's moments of vulnerability there that are happening between, you know, player and coach and listening to Josh immediately in real, didn't even think.

Yes. It was like his first response was like, brother, I know it's going to be hard, but this could be the most rewarding six and a half minutes of our lives. And then immediately, Afterwards, Josh and them hugging like, hey, we got through it, we did it. What it just, we're nowhere near where Drake May is going to go to. No.

And that's like kind of the scary thing, if you think about having to deal with the Patriots fans, being all the way back, and maybe Vrable being potentially his second ballot, Hall of Famer. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. I don't know if he's good enough to be second ballot at this point. I think you need two or three Super Bowls to make it on the second ballot. But the thing with Drake, too, that is so cool. Like, he hasn't played his best full game, but there has.

been halves. Like that's second half against the Texans and the second half against the charges. If you're just looking at it from the outside in, maybe I don't know, the people who watch tape I saw this morning that 11 of 11 ESPN analysts have picked the Seattle Seahawks to win the Super Bowl already. But when you watch like the first half progression to the second half, that's where McDaniels comes into big time for me. Like, you know, you mentioned Jesse Minter coming on. I'm interested to see what the Patriots did in the second half first of the chargers because I think he went 11 to 14 for 150 and a touchdown. And he didn't have those turnovers early on. And that is all, you know, credit to McDaniels and

the adjustments that are made. And, you know, you see the all-white uniforms. I do believe to kind of go back to what you mentioned earlier about how the Patriots are the home team in Seattle's the away team, which makes no sense. The higher seats to be the home team. The Patriots were their all-white uniforms only on the road. So I do believe they are still carrying the road warriors mentality to the Super Bowl. That's awesome. I can't wait to watch. But every time I watch anything from Drake, whether it's him celebrating afterwards, whether it's him talking to the media, whether it's him going out on the field,

do something. It's like, there's so much more for this guy. Think about what he was like two years ago. He said he couldn't play in the NFL for two years because his footwork, the way he did things, he's going to have to develop. It's going to take him a long time. He's very athletic. We've seen him play basketball. Obviously, he can make a lot of plays.

but he's two, three years of development. If that's what you're looking for, that is a good draft, Drake May is a good draft pick. Like, that was what was being said about him. So, and I think that is because, I think that was accurate assessment of him. I think he was a bit wild. I think he was a bit like a gunslinger.

I think he was just best athlete on field all the time, any sport, and he was playing. He was best athlete. But then you don't counter in there, like, well, if he is the best athlete, then you would think if he has a good work, I think he should be able to get better than him, and better and better and better.

So I think Drake May is, nowhere near what he's going to be like five years from now. I don't think he's anywhere near what he's going to be like a year from now. And I think he's a computer too in between the years from what it sounds like with Josh McDaniel's leading him. It's like these mic'd ups are scaring me. These micdups are scaring me as a FC Colts fan. No, I mean, yeah, that's, you hit the nail on the head.

That's the scary part is he's probably going to be entering his prime five years from now. And like, you know, you can nitpick and say whatever you want, talk about how easy, you know, their schedule has been. like there is nothing easy about making it to the Super Bowl. Like we know, we watch the NFL every single week. Like teams who shouldn't lose, they end up losing. So like what he's been able to do is remarkable. And I think, you know, you look at the Brady comparisons.

Like, think back to Brady's first Super Bowl. He won. Like he didn't throw for 350 yards and four touchdowns. Like Drake May has done exactly what has been asked of him. And he hasn't had the catastrophic mistake in moments where you would normally point to a young guy and be like, oh, see, like, he's going to. to learn from that next year. Like, he hasn't had any of those moments.

Yeah, he's not, you know, having like an MVP-type, you know, stat, you know, playoff run here. But that doesn't matter. He's doing everything that he needs to do to win. And that's just, that's a testament to not only Mike Vrable, but Josh McDaniels as well. We talk about his legs, you know, we chatted about how in North Carolina, he led the tar heels in rushing and passing for a season. Nobody really talks about him being an athlete because he's so big.

So I think people just automatically say, oh, he's too big to be athletic. Like go watch his hoop highlights. Dude, true hooper. He's got actual hooper here. 10 rushes, 129 rush yards, six first downs, four explosives.

And they're not really doing it. Like, it's not really like a thing. You'd much rather be a quarterback. But if you just completely unleash RPO's with Drake May on a game, I think he goes for over 100. I think obviously everything else opens up. I think it's an insane night.

But they're also trying, I think, to make sure he knows he has to survive in this whole thing. Balancing survival, versus what he could definitely do with his legs if he wanted to. Has to be an interesting balance for Josh McDaniels, I would say. Especially after his first year. Like, since this is his first year in this offense, which again is ridiculous in his rookie year,

I think he had like three concussions. He didn't start the first five games, got his first start, and then during, you know, that was his big problem. He got hit in the back of the head against the jets, and then he got tackled a few kind of awkward lands, slammed his head on the ground. And he's had to do that this year, which has been noticeably different.

Like when he does run, he's going down way earlier than he should, or not than he should rather, than he did his first year. And then there are still a couple times where he will stand in there, run and not slide. And that's when you can kind of see even, you know, Vrable be like, hey, dude. And Josh McDaniels says, ah, yeah, yeah, hey, hey, yeah. Whole place here. That was the messaging that I think if you listen to some of the OGs talk to like luck,

you know, because Andrew Luck was like, yes. No play left behind here. Okay. Every play has to live up to its maximum potential. You need to play the play, however the play can be played to its max limits. For the respect of football, for the good of ball, for the good of the play, for the respect to your teammates, for the respect to your coach that made the call. Like, that's how Andrew Luck viewed football.

So like trying to tell him like, hey, you just need to go down or just go out of bounds. He's like, yeah, but like that's not really football. It's like, wow, kind of took like an alpha response there. You know, like that's kind of like. And there's some quarterbacks that just can't get that, they can't shake that. I think Andrew got better later in his career, I think. Maybe I'm not 100% sure. I've not watched the film enough to say he got better.

But he was so athletic. He could run so fast, so hard. I mean, everything he did was like, he could have been top tight end. He could have been top running back, I think. He could have been all those things. And it was like, that sometimes was to his detriment, though. And I do wonder how hard the conversation is with Drake. So Drake even taking this conversation too hard in learning and changing

and being like, hey, we want you to survive for the good of, like, everybody here. So every once in a while, you're going to have sacrifice. And Andrew understood that. But he felt like he was disrespecting football, which I had like so much. I think the first time I heard him saying, I was like, oh, man, I got so much respect for that. Like, you respect the game so much that you refuse to do that. It's like, I don't know how you kind of battle against that. But inevitably, it sounds like Drake has been able to buy in.

Yeah, because you can do that. But if you do play like that, you aren't going to be in the NFL for 20 years, you know? Like, you'll more than likely you will have. you'll end up like Andrew Luck where it's like we kind of always wonder like man can you imagine if that guy was playing in the soup like you know what would So good at football. Exactly.

Like you feel fans feel robbed because like and obviously for a guy like that that's kind of how he was always going to be. I don't know if there was any coach who could you know kind of get that out of him and luckily Drake May like he can look at guys before him like that and it's like okay if I want to be

around for a while I can't necessarily play like that. One half of the hammer Cowboys AP Tonus here. We'll dive into the gambling numbers the Super Bowl for the next 11 days. A lot of convoy about one game. But there should be more convoy about something happening Saturday.

2 p.m. Eastern. In Rio and Saudi Arabia, the WWE Royal Rumble. Now, this is on the ESPN... Unlimited? On the app. The ESPN app. Oh, okay.

It is going to be huge. It's going to be historic. It's going to be awesome. Every Royal Rumble is incredible because there's surprises, there's nostalgia, and there's a ticket punched to the main event of WrestleMania. There's a chance, a transformation, a changing in totality of somebody's career coming on Saturday. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the man that that could happen to. A mogul megastar, Logan Paul. Yeah, Logan!

He's saying we're on. Yeah, we're on. He's saying we're on. We're on. Oh, man, Pat. I wasn't ready for this. What do you mean you weren't ready? What do you mean you were already? You okay? Pat, Pat, Pat. I'm coming in remote from Saudi. Yeah, I see that.

Are you already? Are you okay? What happened? Are you sleeping? Is everything all right? Brother, no. I'm locked in, brother. Oh, I'm not taking my shirt off.

Yeah, you look really good. I'm not taking my shirt off. Actually, I was thinking about doing it, but then I'm looking at what you got going on here. I think I'm going to keep my shit on here. Okay, so we're full-time professional wrestling. I know you signed a brand-new deal. Are you training seven? What are we doing?

Are you eating the weights? building. Hey, you look unbelievable, Logan. What's going on? What do we weight? It's my protein, baby. That's my secret. 32 grams of ultra filter. 32 grams of protein. Yeah, breathe, dude. Breathe. You're going to be all right. You're going to breathe. Okay, okay. You're good. I'm just, Matt, dude, the truth is, and this is me being humble with you, I'm so locked in right now in my life. I got a wife. I got a beautiful daughter. I'm sober.

I'm crushing it and I'm just so good at what I do. And I want to keep being humble, but it's just so hard. Yeah, I understand. I understand when you're crushing everything. And by the way, congratulations on that with your life. Happy to hear that. Happy to hear that you're having happiness. Obviously, we've lived in a life that we have known you for a long time

and seen your entire life come together here. Your brother, Jake, I got a chance to chat with him at the National Championship. He was recovering well from the fight. He's fully focused on boxing. You're fully focused on wrestling. Did you guys expect that this is what it was going to be when you're making content? Did you expect to be a full-time professional athlete at this stage of life? Hell no, hell no, Pat.

This is crazy. I'm a legitimate professional athlete now, which is just insane to say. But life is about the art of the pivot, you know, doing what you're good at, doing what you love, and finding that pocket and then just running it. Okay, what was WWE? Hey, you look good, dude. look good tan. Don't make that noise again, bro. That would be why. Well, it was just ridiculous that every time you saw yourself, you could help

but be like, hold on, let me get a little looksie at these things real again. Let me go ahead and look at this. That was a hilarious move by you. That was a hilarious. I really respected it. I would be... You do look phenomenal, brother. You said you're fully locked in. What does that mean? Are we training, wrestling every day? How do you kind of work it into all your other business ventures? I'm training

every day. I'm going back to back to back on meetings. I'm absolutely optimizing and maximizing my life everywhere we go, I'm stacking in the opportunities because look, look, being a WWE superstar gives you the opportunity to amplify what you want to build, both inside and outside of the, the WWE. So when we go to someone, when we travel, man, I'm doing business meetings. I'm training.

I'm bonding with the vision and Paul Heyman. I'm learning. I'm just like, man, I just can't believe how locked in I am. Okay. Did you expect when you started this thing to be as good as you are? and you talk about being with Paul Heyman in the Vision. How have you developed, you think, in this last chapter here that has been currently happening with the Vision, with Austin Theory, I believe, Bronson Reed, obviously, Braun Breaker. Yeah, he's so, Jack.

Yeah, tell me about, like, this chapter here with the Vision and what it's done for you. Yeah, did I expect to be this good, of course. Look at me. I'm built like a Trojan horse and built like a Greek god. I wrestled my whole life. What I didn't expect was, I guess, how quickly I would rise to the top. See, I'm a sponge. I'm not as dumb as I look.

In fact, quite the opposite. I'm running around with an IQ of 139 in my brain here. And so I'm really a student of the game. Being with Paul Heyman and some of the other guys in the vision, I just ask questions. And I'm not afraid to say what I know and what I don't know. and there's a lot of gaps I can still fill in. There's a lot of room for me to still sharpen these blades. And that's what I intend to do the next couple years

and make my way to become WWE champion. And obviously that can happen this weekend. On that, you talk about being a sponge. Walking around at 139 IQ, you're so humble, too. Thank you for telling us about that. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Mav, you are working with Hall of Famer, Paul Heyman. What is he kind of taught you as far as, you know,

going on to win the rumble? and what strategies has he kind of giving you? He said nothing in this business is sacred. Nothing. If you are not a part of the vision, if you're not Austin Theory, Bronson Reed, Bronbreaker,

or Paul Heyman, I genuinely don't care about you. If you are not a part of the unit, that means you're outside of the unit. You are not my concern. And if you do become my concern, that means I'm going to kick your ass. and as far as I'm concerned

30 guys in the Royal Rumble I'm one of them let's do quick math there's 26 guys who were going to get their ass kicked by me and the vision yeah but then what happens how much longer is this interview bro

probably two three more minutes what happens if it's just you guys at the end though sounds like you guys are all locked in with each other because you talked about kicking uh kicking 26 asses with the vision we're going to kick 26 asses going to Bronte and Reade

Sidon. He's coming down in that entire thing. Austin theory's doing a little roll through bing boom to bougham, how's it doing? And then all of a sudden what happens? Oh, it's just the vision. And Paul Heyman gets up on that. What happens then? It's a fair question.

I'm going to answer this seriously. We have had this dialogue internally. Okay. The way we see it, all four members of the vision are future, WrestleMania main eventers. We are so good as a unit and

individually, it will be inevitable. Inevitable at some point, we're going to have to wrestle each other because there's no one else. There's no one else. It's just us. When that time comes, we're going to worry about it, but until then, we're functioning as a well-oiled machine. I'm excited to hear that you guys have

had conversations about it. That's the vision's vision. And that's what it's all about, you know, living in the future. And on that note, we have a question about those 26 asses you're going to kick. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Logan, obviously the goal is just to win the rumble, but is there one person that you're kind of thinking in the back of your head? You know what?

Fuck this guy. I would love to eliminate this guy. Okay, good. So that's it. He's the one guy you'd love to eliminate just to kind of stick that knife in his gut and twist it a little bit deeper. Did it once before? Did I not?

You did? I think I did, right? It's almost so insignificant to me. I barely remember it. But I think I did. I think I've done it before history repeats itself let's do it again

see you know hey did you think about Brock Lesner's in this thing now but if you guys saw about maybe you know how you deal with that how you deal with the whole Brock Lesnar thing that's a concern

yeah yeah yeah I like where your head's at you guys will figure it out though you guys will certainly figure it out we appreciate the hell out of you man Pat you're him

and I don't care what they say about you being a punter and all. You're great. You said the thing about the punter. I did a backflip. Okay, so we did a match. He's gone. Is he gone? He's gone. Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, he's gone. He's gone. After I did him, I think it was maybe Austin Theory. I don't know if he was there as well.

It was one of these. Yeah, at Cowboys Stadium, because you guys walked in at the same time, right? Okay, yeah. So after the match, he comes up to me, goes, bro, I just want to come up to see, you are way more athletic than I thought you were going to be. And I was like, uh, thanks, man. But, you know, yeah, I did a little sports. And somebody was like, he was in the NFL, he goes, yeah, but you know what I'm saying?

Logan said, you know what I'm saying? I didn't really, do you understand? This is no disrespect. Like Logan went into like a hilarious bit. And I'm like, I appreciate you doing that. What he's able to do, though. Him wrestling his whole life is like an easy. And then him being a character, you know, his whole life.

It's almost like he was born to be a WWE superstar. And it has certainly worked out. Is he eating the weights? I mean, he looks unbelievable. right now. Well, it's the same deal, though. Like, yeah, he's wrestled his whole life, but, like, you don't watch what he does in the ring and think, like, oh, yeah, this was a guy

who wrestled in high school. Like, he is doing wildly acrobatic, crazy athletic shit, and that doesn't usually, you know, like, that's not the first thing I think of is like, oh, yeah, he won you know, a state championship wrestling in high school. Yeah, like, but it's

his, the shit he does is crazy in the ring. Yeah, he's also a super genius. I mean, the drone throw and catch, the amount of business stuff. I mean, he had to prime bottles, literally outside the thing. He's right up. Yeah, right there. He's already wearing a wire.

I mean, that's all the time probably for him in his life. Congrats to him. And good luck to him at the Royal Rumble. And I do appreciate the fact that he did say, you know, Brock is a problem because that does kind of change things. Yeah, I think for the entire landscape. Speaking of change in the entire landscape, the AFC North looks vastly different right now.

Cleveland Brown's new head coach, not their D.C. People aren't happy. A lot of people aren't happy. Pittsburgh Steelers got a new head coach He couldn't even get a first word out No for being so thankful Go back home In the new look

AFC North continued in Baltimore As an MVP quarterback A defense and a roster littered with dogs Found themselves without a head coach For the first time in like 18 years Ladies and gentlemen The man who was selected to guide the Baltimore Ravens Through the next chapter

of the Baltimore Ravens existence by Steve Bishotti, who we have come to learn is the greatest talking owner in all of sports. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Ravens, Jesse Minter. Yeah, Coach. How you doing, Coach? Doing great, man. Appreciate you guys having me on.

Thank you so much for joining us. We are very, very grateful, and obviously we got a chance to meet you in the building whenever we were walking around the bolt. And as we chatted with you, the easy follow-up once you left us was, oh, that guy's going to be a head coach. That guy's going to be a head coach. That guy's going to be head coach, and here we are.

You are now head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. What has it been like after you get named that officially? Because obviously you traveled around a bit. You've had success in multiple different places. Now you're guiding a franchise. What has it been like here for the first few hours as head coach in the NFL? Congratulations. Yeah, thank you again.

Thank you, thank you guys. It was great to meet you all last year. And it's just been, it's a process now. You know, you get the job. And first thing that you start thinking of is trying to build a relationship with the players. I think that's the most important piece in this whole thing. And then you start talking about a staff. And so working tirelessly right now to put a staff together. That'll be great for these guys that these players deserve. And right now, those are the two main focuses

at this time. Okay, so tell me about Lamar Jackson as your quarterback. This is obviously whenever we talked about the coaching vacancy in the coaching cycles, there was an MVP available with no head coach up there in Buffalo. There was an MVP in Baltimore. I felt like it was the first time, long time, first time, forever. Whenever Lamar Jackson's a quarterback of a team, what does that mean for you as the head coach, a defensive guy? And what was the conversation around Lamar Jackson and the stars of this team currently during the hiring process? Yeah, first of all, you know, being the head coach of the team that has the best player in the

National Football League is pretty exciting. Like you said, these jobs with this caliber of quarterback don't often turn over. And so when it came open, you know, the respect and love I have for Lamar and haven't been here before, haven't seen him come up as he was drafted here, what he did in his first few years, having had defended him last year in 2024 in Los Angeles. Just, man, grateful, excited, stoked to have the best player in the league as our quarterback. And I think what that says is your window is always open. You got the best player in the world behind center.

You got a group of guys on offense that have elite talent. of elite playmaking skills and look forward to building an offense and building a team around Lamar Jackson. Okay, so Greg Roman and Lamar won an MVP. Todd Monkin and Lamar won an MVP. It felt like it was a little different styles. On that note, you said you're still piecing together a staff, but an obvious question from tone, a diehard Pittsburgh Steeler fan, by the way. Yeah, don't hold that against me. Not yet. We haven't played each other yet. but coach do you want to break news here and tell us who your OC is going to be? Just kidding.

I know you're not going to do that. But is there a style? Because a lot of defensive head coaches, you know, they talk about how they want to run the ball and protect the defense, stuff like that. Do you care what style comes in? And who are you, what are you looking for in your offensive coordinator? Yeah, that's a great question. I have tons of respect for the Ravens Steelers rivalry, so it won't hold that against you. I think I'm looking for a connector and an innovator and a scheme builder around the best player in the world.

And so very, very creative, built on the things that have made this organization always successful. And I think that's playing great defense, having the ability to control the game with running the football. But ultimately building an offense around Lamar's skill set, what he does best, making plays easy for him at times and making plays at times where he has the ability for his instincts to take over. So a very well-rounded, well-constructed offense, that's very creative, innovative, always forward-thinking, always trying to find ways to improve. And I know we'll find that and look forward to Lamar lean that charge. I can't wait if you guys hired Dan Rolowski. Smart. Good hard.

All right, all right, all right. Everybody, Dan, who did deserve that. If you do hire Dan, we will certainly support. If you don't, we certainly understand as well. But let's talk a little bit about the defenses that you have manned. Everybody that has played defensive football is impressed by your deal. defenses. And Hembo sent us over a stat earlier today about Derwin James'

career, where he was at before you got there and then what you're able to do with him. And then obviously we look at their Ravens defense. We see a superstar over there as well. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, coach, the jersey's hanging behind you. I love your strategy. Just go to a defense that has an all-pro safety and let's move them everywhere and that's basically what you can do

with Kyle Hamilton. What was the draw, you know, with that defense? Kyle, Roquan Smith, two pillar players. It feels like in this league for a long time, both all pros, both pro bowlers, but what do you envision kind of the strategy with them? And are you just going to basically show Derwin James tape to Kyle Hamilton and just say, hey, do this?

Well, ironically, a couple years ago when I was getting to the Chargers had looked at a lot of the stuff that Kyle had done here in 2023. So showed, showed Irwin some Kyle film. Now show Kyle some Derwin film, two great players in their own right, you know, unique in their own style. But I just felt like this is an organization that. expects to play great defense, expects to have the most dominant defense in the NFL.

And I think any quarterback's best friend is having the best defense in the league. And so there's great pieces here. There's a bunch of great players. Kyle included, Roquan, all the guys. And I feel like, you know, there's excellent pieces here for us to be able to work towards being the best defense in the NFL.

I mean, you talk about defense being able to run the ball. I mean, AFC North Football, you also have to think about that, right? You understand because you've obviously been with Baltimore. But AFC North, you got games, obviously, outside Baltimore, miserable, Pittsburgh, miserable, Cleveland, miserable, Cincinnati miserable. You have to have great defense, don't you? That's like AFC North football is you have to have an incredible defense, which is why

I think Pittsburgh people thought defensive coordinator maybe for the head coach. I think people understood why they go defense with the Ravens because that's kind of AFC North football. Are you excited to get back in the kitchen of the AFC North? It looks brand new over there right now. It feels like it's going to have similar football, though. I'm so excited. And I think the division is where it all starts. You got to own your division. You got to study those teams. You've got to find a way to win those games. It's six games a year.

I think we were able to do that the last place I was at. And I take great pride now. We're being the only defensive-minded head coach in the AFC North and look forward to the challenges that those other three guys present. Last question here for your coach. We appreciate you. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, coach. I know in 2021, you kind of took a bit of a separation. We're at Vanderbilt. but from 2017 to 2025, you were coaching under a hardball, whether it was John or Jim. Have you thought about like, man, it's actually going to be kind of weird not having or not being around either one of those guys? And what do you think the biggest thing you'll take away from the hardball coaching tree will be going forward? Yeah, that's a great question.

Certainly have so much love and respect for both of them. Jim, the last four years, being at Michigan, winning a championship together, getting the chargers up run into where they're at now. I feel great about kind of how we left that place. And then the four years here with John, and I think they're both different. Jim is, as you guys know, man, so positive, so fun, creates a great environment for the players. I learned a ton here from John about empowering people and the organization, empowering the players, empowering the coaches to be creative and forward thinking. That was, I felt a big part of my development was his vision for me as a coach. And so look forward to taking everything from both of those guys,

but ultimately being myself and figuring out what works best for me but certainly have loved my time with those guys, love and appreciate them, and look forward to going against them now. What was Bashati like in the conversations? We don't know this guy much. We just saw a press conference

when he was talking about the hiring process. He might be the greatest. We need him on a microphone more. I don't know if that was part of your discussions or negotiations with him if you won that over to get him on a microphone more. But what is he like in person and what is the expectation?

It feels like he's pretty hands off. You guys do the football. the owner, let me know what you need? I think he's the best owner in sports. And I say that because, you know, he gives you everything that you need. There's no stone unturned for resources in this organization. He hires people to do their job, expects you to do it at a high level. And, you know, he's only hired, in his time, he's only hired the one coach.

And so I look forward to having a long, long partnership with him and Eric DeCosta, our general manager. And, man, there's nobody I'd rather be working for than Steve Bishati. How old are you? 42. Oh, man. Young gun. It'll be there to at least 60.

At least. I mean, look, he looks like he's taking care of. Yeah, you're pretty fit. What do you? Are you, a Peloton guy? What do you do? Peloton, all the way. Peloton.

Okay. In the office, you're on the Peloton? I do it at home, but I might, I might have to bring one in the office here. I'm smart. I like that. You just, even having it there makes you think that. Those guys working out and watching film doing the entire thing. We're getting up on that.

We're going pretty hard. It feels like you are in great shape. You feel very confident. about your Peloton scoring, your ranking? It's solid. It's middle of the road to the upper half, maybe. Instructor of choice? Yeah, that's a good question.

I mean, I go more for during the season. I'm only on like the 20-minute kicks in the morning, so it's more about the time length. And so I enjoy kind of the mix of all the different instructors. I like that. Hey, we only got 20 minutes here, okay? But I need to kick my ass. Okay, that's what I need to do here.

I hope you get a good time or have a good time not only meeting obviously the locker room Jimmy's famous it's great to be back at Baltimore you'd be able to eat some of their crabs Buda and Stavi

I think you get a good relationship with them they are incredible fans of the Ravens and in watching you build that place after taking the baton from a man who is obviously held in such high regards around there is going to be fun to watch good luck brother you've earned it all appreciate that thank you guys for having me on

ladies of gentlemen it's coach mentor Yeah, coach. Walking in somebody else's house, basically. Yeah. You know, that's like a college football thing, more so than an NFL thing. Yeah, you lived at it. Yeah, and you were in that house. Yeah, you had a room in that house.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the castle, I'm sorry. Yeah, sure, basically. Within the castle that they have over there in Baltimore. So, like, he knows how everybody there feels about Hardball. You know, that's like Harbaugh's house, basically. He's running that place. Seriously.

And then he has to walk in there, and now it's, hey, this is his opening state. where he's like it's going to be we and this is already the best franchise i'm trying to take it to because you can't really yeah you know because you can't really step on anybody because they have been run pretty well it feels like but haven't gotten to where you want to go so how do you frame the messaging that it's like this is such an abnormal head coaching change because it's not that your ass but certainly not where we need to be that's like an interesting balance i think up there yeah that's why you kind of have to bring in a guy that knows the culture because it's not a situation where you have to flip it, you know, 180. It's not a place where it's like, hey,

this is terrible. I'm going to completely change the culture around here. And kind of like Ben Johnson. Like Ben Johnson had to go in there and completely flip the bears. Like, hey, we're not a losing organization. We can do this with the guys in here. Whereas Minter, like, he's going in there knowing the Baltimore Ravens are one of those franchises, kind of similar to Pittsburgh. Like, they're a winning franchise of the good culture. You don't have to change, you know, reinvent the wheel, if you will. But you still have to change, what they've been doing the past few years. Like, if you don't hire a guy who knows that culture already,

you kind of are kind of behind the eight ball, if you will. Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how it works over there. You got Lamar. Lamar's always going to be good. Lamar can spin it too. Like, even if Lamar's not running. Because I don't know if Lamar can still, I'm not going to say it.

I'm not going to doubt Lamar. I would not doubt Lamar Jackson. Lamar used to be by far the fastest person on every field he was on. This year, did we see as much as that? After his hand, no. I was going to say it. It feels like he was hurt. all year.

All year. Linger. Yeah, exactly. And they kind of just, it got to that point where it was like, hey, listen, the Ravens kind of need to win out. So it was like even if he was hurt. But also the other thing with Minter that, you know, it's kind of, I'd say beneficial to him that Harbaugh went and got another job right away because he did take a bunch of

people with him and a bunch of support staff. So like he doesn't necessarily have the holdovers who are like, well, this isn't how Coach Harbaugh did it. You know, he can kind of bring in his pieces and still retain some of that stuff. from the Harbaugh era, but also kind of mold it into like the image that he wants. And he's not going to have that constant strife of like, well, we've been pretty successful. That's not how we, that's not how we do things. I agree.

Constant strife you bring up? Mm-hmm. What's going on Cleveland, Miles Garrett? Is everything right? Wow. This guy. No thanks. Is it January or February?

Boo-hoo Garrett. Hold on. You mean Mr. Pout, pout? Yeah. Hold on. This guy would snap. You and half with one hand. and you in half with the other hand.

And I still wouldn't post an IG story like that crying. Okay, well, maybe he just wants to let people know that he's also going through it over here. Okay, now, I didn't even think of it in real time because I don't think enough about the Cleveland Browns in my day-to-day life. I apologize for that. I need to do better.

You do? For the dog pound, because I appreciate the Cleveland people. Okay, I do appreciate the Cleveland people. Ms. has kind of introduced me to a genre of Browns fans that believe they're going to actually win a Super Bowl and actually have their lives depend upon it at this stage. So I feel bad for the Cleveland Browns fans. I do not think.

I didn't even think because the Schwartz thing was interesting. The defense coordinator Schwartz, who historic defense at home even more so. Miles Garrett obviously gets a sack record. That's already in Canton in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Bill Belichick not. But this is certainly Miles Garrett's uniform is in Canton because it's a historic sack. But also at home, they didn't give up like a first down for like five weeks straight or something.

I forget what the stat was. He has led a legendary defense over there in Cleveland, and obviously none of it really matters because they don't win enough games to be relevant. So it's just kind of out in a lost wasteland. So whenever they're doing the hiring of the head coach process, and there was like a quiz that had to be taken, there was some homework.

And then there was also a qualifier that was like, Schwartz has to stay. So it sounds like everybody in the building was like, Schwartz is really good, D.C. We don't want to change anything over here. We just want to change the head coach, anti-offensive coordinator. So then whenever we hear they hire Todd Monkin, I just go, okay, so they got Todd Monkin on the

offensive side. Schwartz on the defensive side, feels like those two know the AFC North pretty good. That might be a good combo for a clue. So my immediate response is like, that's not a bad thing. And then immediately comes out, Schwartz is out, Schwartz is leaving, and then I see the entire place go, if we're going to hire an old coach, why would we not just hire the guy who's already in the building, who has relationships with all the players, who is leading a historic defense? and understands what the entire, yeah, has been a head coach and fought other head coaches,

which we like, by the way, if he's going to do that. Why wouldn't we just hire this old guy if we're going to hire an old guy? None of it makes sense. And I didn't even think of that reaction, especially if I would have known how hard I think Schwartz wanted the job. It feels like Schwartz really wanted that job. He wanted another crack at the apple. He had been a head coach before.

It didn't work out perfectly. So now he's in a place that he knows has an incredible defense, which he can be about. and if he can hit or strike on the offensive side somehow, they can have a good team, especially with a lot of turnover in the AFC North right now. There's really opportunity for the Cleveland Browns. So I didn't know he was pushing as hard for that coach.

I thought he was sticking around on the defensive side. So then whenever it comes out, like he won it, now he's out, he immediately becomes an incredibly hot commodity everywhere. And the Cleveland Browns people are now like, why did we piss off the guy who was like maybe the best thing we had? And then Miles Garrett's on the internet saying, I'm on your guys aside. I don't know why we picked this.

Our old white guy. We had the old white guy. I don't know what we're doing on the other side of the ball. And this follows a trend now, to your trend. So I don't know. I guess it's just back to back. It's not annual because annual would be a long time. Trend would be two, like three or four, I think.

Yeah, beginning of an annual, you could say. Yeah, we're at the beginning stages, potentially, until there is a resolution, which is either a Super Bowl for Cleveland, right? Because that was kind of his messaging is that he wanted to win. He didn't want to just go to the Hall of Fame. He wanted to win a Super Bowl. Then they paid him $40 million a year. And he said, they told me we could win here.

I'm going to win here. we can win here. So then he is coming out and saying basically he was lied to. Like, hey, he was told we're going to be able to win. That's why I took the deal for $40 million, reset the entire market. I come back. Here we are again. They stink. They're not good. They fire their coach. He is obviously campaigning pretty good for Schwartz. He's obviously the best player in Cleveland and has been for a very long time. So although he's not a quarterback, he was certainly campaigning for one of the head coaching candidates. His guy doesn't get the job. another guy, similar ilk just other side of the field, gets the job.

So I think he's warranted to potentially be a little bit upset. But I think a lot of people were saying, hey, when you took the check to stay in Cleveland, you signed up for all the shit that Cleveland's going to bring. And this is something that Cleveland's going to bring. Allegedly, has him the owner, went against the consultants and against his staff, and he said, I hear what you're saying.

Give me monkey. So who knows if that is just a leak from the building to save face with Schwarz? which could certainly be the case because he probably has friends in that building that were saying like, hey, we're on your side. Then they go the other way. They would like it to be known like, hey, for Jim, we want him to know that we're on his side

and Hazam, the owner went the other way. So now this is multiple decisions we've been told that Haslam has decided to go against where everybody else is saying and make decisions that could be to the detriment of his business and his team. But hey, that's Cleveland football, I think, is what everybody says. And Miles signed up for it, Tony. Is that how we need to be viewing this?

Yes. as far as Miles goes, he did the letter. Yes, last year. It was all we talked about for majority of Super Bowl week. And then he signed the deal. So it's like, hey, you knew you've been there for how long. You know how this works with Cleveland. And then the best part, I'm not sure if you saw the report from Josina.

I saw it, yeah. They might have two head coaches, first time ever. Okay, let's, hey, O.C., D.C., head coaches. You know what? Why not? I think it's a great idea. I think they should definitely do that. I feel like that would be a great idea. Okay. So I was a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. And I think what you were hearing is people are trying to come up with resolutions, you know, for a situation. And I don't know if anybody will ever do that because if you got two coaches, I think you have no coaches, you know, just like the quarterback situation, which they don't have. But there has been

teams whose offense and defense is very much two different operating systems. Chicago Bears, I think, is the most noted one, right? As Buddy Ryan and Dicka. And Dicka just didn't get along. Hated each other. Yeah, the two sides, and they went on to do special things together. And I'm not saying these two would hate each other, but I think Schwartz potentially would not necessarily like being second film.

I'm second head coach. I don't know how that goes, but, hey, there's 32 jobs or 64. Mm-hmm. Good call. If you get co-head coaches. Why not? The other thing would potentially be if they do this, Cardinals can't have a head coach this year. because there can only be 32 head coaches in the NFL.

Browns get two of them. Cardinals can't have one. That'd be crazy if the Browns were the team that did that to the Cardinals. The Cardinals have to really look themselves in the eye. Yeah, they would. And that's like whenever your Yukon coach goes to like North Texas, North Carolina. Colorado State. Colorado State.

That's tough for Yukon. That is very tough for Yukon. But obviously, not everybody understands what's going on out there at Colorado State Coach. We apologize for that potential slight. but that's not a normal transact. Go ahead. Well, just with this whole entire thing with Miles Garrett, I'm not so sure he didn't schedule this IG post and tweet last year. I'm not sure if at the Super Bowl, he was like, you know what?

Now that I'm here in doing all this, I know I'm going to get my money. I know I'm still going to be a Cleveland Brown. I'm going to schedule this for 2026 so that inevitably when this happens again, I'll still be right in the pocket. Tennessee Titans have $101 million. and free agency. A lot of money.

With Sala and Dayball. Are they potentially going to try to trade for an upset, miserable Miles Garrett out of Cleveland? Interesting. Is Miles Garrett going to work his way out of Cleveland because he's not happy with current head coaching hire? Because even though he campaigned for one of the candidates, another candidate got the job.

Does Miles Garrett feel disrespected in Cleveland? Does Miles Garrett potentially want out of Cleveland? How could it? they carried them off the field to end the season. I think it's dead cap. That'd be a great way to go out. They won their Super Bowl. These dead cap's got to be.

It's got to be a hundred. Yeah, I'm looking it up right now. 100 million. Is there any chance that the NFL steps in and says, you know what, Jimmy, sell the team. We're going to take this from you. Because you're not even trying to win. You act like you know what you're doing.

You clearly don't. What if this is a good hire? There's chance. They got a pro bowl quarterback. They do have a pro bowl quarterback. And that would be his response. Oh, I don't know. Do Pro Bowl Corbex growing trees? I drafted

that guy. But like, if you're Andrew Barry, like, how do you go into work the day afterwards? Like, I've spent four months trying to tell you what we need to do here and you're listening and just kind of giving me the run around and then on the very last day. I hear you. I hear you.

I appreciate you doing all the legwork. Shut up. You're wrong. We're going to do what I want to do. I'm going to get this guy. You remember that quarterback contract we gave out? Yeah. Remember? I'm not so sure that wasn't your idea. Okay, you're the one who told me to do that, right? It's my going to back.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, I made an offer. They said no good. They actually eliminated us from it. And then remember, you came in and said, $230 million fully guaranteed. And I said, we cannot do that. That'll not be good for our team. And you said, $230 million guaranteed. Feels like you do that to me a lot, what Andrew Barry potentially says.

Yeah. And maybe that's why Stefanski leaves the Browns organization. Tried to. was actively coaching to get fired. I think anybody, if you were to cut on the tape, which we all have, if you were to look at that Brown season, you could make the argument that Stefanski was trying to get fired.

And that's why he drafted, and that's why they dropped to two quarterbacks. That's where it all started. Stefanski was like, I'm going to draft two rookie quarterbacks. Actually, what's worse than one rookie quarterback? Two of them. And we're going to have Flacco, and we're going to trade Flacco in the division.

And then we're going to have our first rookie quarterback go. Well, he's going to get hurt. And we're going to say, no, you're not playing it anymore. We're going to start our other rookie quarterback. Everyone's going to hate it. With no practice. They didn't even let him practice. Yeah, which was ridiculous.

But everyone's going to hate it. And then lo and behold, I am now the head coach of the offense that has Bijohn Robinson, Drake London, and possibly Kyle Pitts. So, yeah, it worked out for Stefansky pretty damn. It was crazy. He got hired that. I mean, honestly, Matt Ryan did the hiring. So I respect Matt Ryan's opinion.

He'll be joining us next week. Super Bowl radio row. I believe on Thursday, Matt Ryan will be joining us next Thursday. Can't wait to catch up with him. How he got to Stefanski? Because I don't know Stefanski that well. I just didn't expect him to be bell a ball, basically, as soon as he leaves Cleveland like he was. I assumed he'd have to go back offensive coordinate somewhere, be an OC, take a year like that and all that. And then instead, I see him walking out of the dog pound right into the bird's nest down there. And for the Falcons, it was like, gay of all of him.

It's like, wow. He landed on his feet. pretty good. Yeah, I think that kind of proves and shows you what the NFL thinks to the Cleveland Browns in that organization. And a lot of Browns fans, I saw yesterday, I think that because Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Pittsburgh Steelers, that he's actually a sleeper agent owner for the Browns. And he's actively trying to ruin them. Okay.

See, the Browns fans don't deserve any of this. Yeah. The Browns fans don't deserve anything. Let's talk a little bit about what's going on around sport. Penn State has turned Beaver Stadium into a hockey rink. Okay. This looks awesome. And anytime hockey does things outside of the arena, we appreciate.

We love the stadium series. I believe that continues this Sunday down in Tampa Bay. Shout out to the NHL for being innovative and changing and maybe marketing the game a little bit differently to different people. You know, because not everybody grows up near Pond where Pond Hockey's happening outside. It's nice to get the backdrop. It's nice to see the elements on the ice with hockey. And Penn State will be playing Michigan State on...

Peacock. At one o'clock. On Saturday. Okay, there we go. Perfect. Nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. One o'clock on Peacock on Saturday.

They'll be live in... That's just going to be 100,000 people with this? No way. The projection I saw was somewhere between 60 and 70,000. I mean, this is... But you could see how, you know, right before the game starts, it's like, hey, why don't we go? It's number two, Michigan State in the country versus number five, Penn State in the country. like that would warrant at least some people traveling now.

I heard Michigan's kind of running college hockey right now. Yeah, I'll tell you what. We have Michigan Wolverines, number one team in the country. Michigan State Spartans, number two team in the country. In the Western Michigan, Broncos, number three team in the country. They won the whole thing last year. Oh, we had that guy. Western Michigan did something.

What did Western Michigan? They built a $500 million facility. Hockey. Hockey facility. Also, their defense coordinator just got hired in the NFL, Western Michigan. Chris O'Leary. Yeah, Bengals. I forgot.

Western Michigan's defensive coordinator is now the defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Chargers. Yes. That came across the newswire there and kind of shocked me a little bit. Western Michigan pipeline to the NFL from a D.C. standpoint? I guess he's got some great stats tone. Yeah, so two years ago, he was with the Chargers. And then last year, he went to Western Michigan to be the D.C. two years ago at Western Michigan when he was not the D.C.

was 107th in defense. And then when he became D.C., it went all the way from 107th to 9th last year. Wow. That's crazy. And Ty, week four, they were playing against that guy who's so good at football. Yeah, it may have been Central Michigan. It may have been the Chippewas.

I can't remember Dan Lafever as the head coach. I don't know if he had to do. I think it was Dan Lafavor. It was the quarterback. Could have been. He's one. He could spin it up there. He's an all-time great.

But that's the thing is you go through the trials and tribulations of that Western Michigan schedule. Like that prepares you for being in arguably the toughest division in the NFL. Parker Navarro. I mean, we saw it. He's a lot of football team over there. Hey, so is Western Michigan. They got the Los Angeles Chargers defensive coordinator was coordinating against that schedule. That dominated.

Good luck to those college offensive coordinators. You got the Chargers DC on the other sideline. Why didn't he go coach high school? Good question. I mean, could you imagine this? Phil Rivers almost did. Yeah, Conner Stallion did that and his high school team wasn't very good. I thought he was going to get a head coaching job.

Me too. They didn't get his guys in there, that's why. Belichick's still not in the Hall of Fame. Today, still? Yeah, Josina reporting about maybe co-head coaches, that would kind of change some things. If they were to go back and re-vote and put somebody in Hall of Fame, that would certainly change some things for the future. I think he's going to miss out.

That's a shame, but there will be incredible Hall of Famer. with us next Friday, live from Radio Row. Be a friend tell a friend something nice and might change your life. We're in Super Bowl season. Let's enjoy it. We'll see on the other side. Football!

Got a loaded hour here ahead, and obviously football is the greatest. It's Super Bowl season, and the guests have been coming in abundance. Yeah, abundant, I would say. Later this hour, we got Joe Brady, the new head coach of the Buffalo Bills. He has a press conference, I believe,

that just wrapped up. He'll be heading into a room to talk to us up in Buffalo. Cannot wait to chat with him? I've heard immaculate vibes, this guy. I've heard the aura, the energy, the juice, if you will, is very high with him. Saw a video of him walking in. First day of job, had shorts. Yeah.

Oh. Had shorts. There was snow. I know exactly. This guy, if they're saying he's a lot of energy and he's wearing shorts out there, might have sympatico here and Joe Brady. Excited to chat with him for the first time. And then in about 10 minutes or so, we'll chat with Trinity Rodman.

She's the highest paid women's professional athlete of all time. And she's a United States. beast. Our women's national team is in great hand. She's a captain. She's 23 years old. This past weekend was her first game being captain. It was also one day after she signed the largest women's sports contract in history. And she does this sexy Dexter Lawrence dance after she does her thing. She's 23. She's going to be around for another 10, 15 years leading and guiding the way. We're incredibly lucky and thankful we get a chance to chat with her. As Coach Emma Hayes did a little dance too, you know, at first time she says she didn't want to do no dancing. The girls

have been dominant. And I'm excited to chat with her. about it all. Joining us now live from Manatekin Ohio is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Radica winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. How you? How you? How you doing, Hawker. Good. I credit to you for the coach for getting involved there in the second one. I appreciate that. I really do.

Yeah, because I don't think she wanted to at all, because she might be a stern coach, you know, accountability. It might be that. And then, what did you say? H. H.C. H. H. H. H. H.A. Z. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying H. Like H. A.Z. W.A. No. No. Coach H. No, no, Coach Hayes, that's what we call her.

Emma Hazy. Yeah, Coach Emma Hazy. You're not saying hazing, because I said like she's kind of a hard-nosed coach. You said kind of hazing, and it's like, I think that used to be synonymous. She's stern but fair, I believe, is how you potentially describe her. So I don't know if she's much of a dancer, you know, on real, but when Trinney knocks on a second goal two games, she's captains, she's starting, she's got sexy, dexy dance going crazy all over place. Maybe Hasey does buy it.

Yeah. And I appreciate that she did that. age, it is a great time for ball. And there's a lot of great hiring's happening. We just talked to Jesse Minter. Seems like he's ready and cut out to do the gig. Joe Brady will come here in a matter of moments. Patrick Graham has been hired as a defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers

alongside coach Mike McCarthy. Your thoughts on that hiring for the D.C. in Pittsburgh? And how do you kind of think what the Steelers are doing is going to work out? Man, I sure hope what the Steelers are doing is going to work. I think Patrick Graham, when you hear people, I don't know him, I know guys that have played for him. They all love him. Like, they love his scheme and how he's, what he brings, I guess, his energy and positivity. But for Big Mike, yeah, the Steelers, obviously, Big Mike, we know his offensive background.

That's what he does. He develops quarterbacks. He's a West Coast offensive guy. So, yeah, bringing in defense is gigantic for him. He knows that. He tells us all the time. Like, Big Mike's the most, like, old school trenches, dude that lets you know. Like, you're going to win the game up front on both sides, D-Line and O-Line. Okay, so Patrick Graham, I think, has had success. and with not a lot of talent on his rosters. I think he has two top 10 defenses in the last five years, but if you look at where he was at,

there wasn't, you know, Max Crosby, obviously, in the Raiders, but you know how the Raiders have done. I think people really like him. Don't know if he's had a great situation yet, kind of. Yeah, the kind of the story or narrative around him in the last few days when his name was out there to be hired was that he does more with less, and then kind of different than what Terrell Austin did

with the Steelers DC the last few years is it was kind of like, hey, this is what we play. This is what we're going to do. And Patrick Graham's M.O. apparently more is like, okay, these are the players we have. Let's go to their strengths. We don't have to play this defense in this certain. Like, let's go to our strengths and maybe the offense's weaknesses. And then Steelers fans were very, very, very, very happy to hear that. Okay, so this is good hire in Jensers' mind.

Obviously, Mike McCarthy has a lot of connections throughout his hundred and 50 years in the NFL before returning back home to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's looking at Scott Tolzeen, former backup quarterback in Green Bay. As a potential offensive coordinator, your thoughts on that age? Obviously, he knows the system. He's been around the NFL a long time. Yeah, Scotty was actually, his locker was directly next to mine for a little while in Green Bay. And Scotty was a coach back then.

Like, he was, you know how you play with guys that you know are going to coach. Like, he didn't have to really talk about it that much, but we knew, like, Scotty's brain, how he operates, how he worked. Hey, he got in there too. Scott, he had to start a game, I believe. And that dude can sling a little bit. He was tough as nails as well. I believe he ran for a touchdown. Like he led us to some exciting times in Lambo. He led some Indianapolis Colts exciting times as well, brother.

We brought him in on like a Thursday. He played on a Sunday. I mean, Scott Tolzin, living legend in a lot of different locker rooms, I do believe, in practice facilities and practice fields. Because I think he was doing a lot of that against the defenses. That's a backup course. quarterback has become a position where we all believe they know ball. They understand ball, and they understand what quarterbacks want and what quarterbacks don't want. So their names can

obviously become very, very hot, especially if they have success. Scott Tolzeen goes to Pittsburgh, has success one year. His name will be up for a head coaching job, just like Nick. Kelly Moe, obviously. That's where he was. KOC up quarterback, Kevin O'Connell, backup quarterback, Dan O'clock. Clip Kingsbury. Why'd I do that to mentor like that? He just in my head, he was rattling off like all the good things of an office. And I'm like, that's what Rolovsky told us he was going to do, just all the good things. You know, like, so as Minter was labeling what he wanted, I'm like, I know a guy who told us all the same things. He was Dan Rolovsky a little bit ago.

But he could become the next one. And I don't think McCarthy's not calling place. He's saying, I don't like calling place. And he had been with Kelly Moe before, and Kelly Moe won't run up scoreboard. I know he won't want to do. That's what he said about him as they moved on. So Scott Tolzin going in there to be the coordinator would not be abnormal at all for McCarthy. and him and Aaron have a good relationship.

Are all signs pointing to Aaron Rogers going and continuing his hunt for seven in Pittsburgh, AJ? I don't, I mean, if you look at it from, yeah, it feels like it, right? Has he said anything publicly? Do we have any clue what he's going to do? We don't know what he said publicly. What does he said privately, AJ? I don't know.

We haven't heard from that's what I'm saying. A lot of times in the offseason, he goes dark for a little while. I don't know where he might be right now. I really don't. You know. AJ, AJ, so what have you been told? I wanted him to come back. I want him to come back.

Oh, nothing. Like, he doesn't know. I don't think he has. has his mind made up either way. You don't need a one shot. I mean, that's for damn sure. But yeah, I have no information. Does he know Coach Mike is the head coach of the Steelers? I believe he, I would assume that he knows Coach Mike is the head coach of the Steelers. Okay. So, Tone also just said to me that there is a chance that Coach Mike will be calling plays. He has come out and said that he's going to be doing that? I thought he did in the press conference said that he was going to call plays.

I am almost positive, but I was just asking the check to make sure. but this is like Scotty Tolzeen this is your coach in waiting okay he's 38 years old he's been the quarterback coach he was with the New Orleans Saints this year their quarterback made leaps in bounds of a jump to maybe almost offensive rookie of the year

he's with Dak the last two years before that oh he was pretty good Scotty's the future head coach the Pittsburgh Steelers Big Mike's gonna do his five he'll get a Super Bowl that'll be cool he'll be 67 years he's gonna ride off and then sunset and Greenfield Scotty Tolzee right in baby there's our young coach there's our young high who are your players

Who are your players, though? What do you mean? You got a lot of players, I think, are like, are they playing next year? And it's not like contract-related. It's like retirement-related. Like, what is, because they don't want to rebuild, so you've got a lot of older guys. KM is up in air. Aaron's up in there?

But, yeah, I mean, that's fine. What about Jalen? Just quarterback and nose-dramsey? Canter contracts still? Yeah. Okay, good. Good. You feel good about it?

I feel great about it. Do they have to make a lot of decisions? Boba Ventron coming back to the town to be a special teams coordinator. I mean, if he does. assemble the Yinser Avengers? If he assembles the Yinser Avengers to be the coaching staff, now he let Danny Smith out the door. Now, Danny Smith, Yinser legend, he's in Tampa Bay. I don't think Danny knew another Yinser was getting gig.

But Bubba Ventron, Char Vowal, Yinser, been around the league, great special teams coordinator going in there with Mike McCarthy. And then we just start, Patrick Graham, not a Yenzer, but if every other slot was filled by Yinser people, I think that would make a lot of sense for Mike McCarthy. It wouldn't shock me. You know he's done that in the past over the course. There was guys that had Pittsburgh ties on the staff in Green Bay that I didn't even know.

Like multiple guys throughout all, like he has Pittsburgh connections everywhere. So yeah, if he feels like they're right for the job, he will not hesitate to bring them in. Van Pelt was in Green Bay. He would be a perfect guy maybe. The Steelers are all the way back. More Yenzer explosion than they've ever had in the locker room. And now Mike McCarthy's doing his thing. Why not?

You got it. I mean, they're littered throughout the league. and they're the best coaches on every staff. So why not bring it back? That's right. Not a bad idea. Chase 7, boys, for the fam, for the home. Pittsburgh dad, D-line coach.

I think he can get after. He's good with a whistle. I've heard Pittsburgh dad can really do the whistle. But you guys have a friend from back home, Bill Bones or something, who's good at... Secondary coach. Yeah.

He's a secondary. He got good back pedal. No, actually, I heard. I think Aaron Donald's going to be the D-line coach, and Revis is going to be the secondary coach. Wow, that would be crazy. Yeah. Jason Taylor's going to coach a D-line as well, Edge.

edge position. AQ Shepley's coaching the center. AQ. He's coaching the centers. Okay. No, we don't want him. He's a wrong game coordinator. The hell.

Jeez. All right, let's pivot away from the Pittsburgh Steelers, having a bunch of hirings and potentially being all the way back to talk about somebody that's brand new to be in the absolute goat. I got to meet her down in Atlanta, when she was alongside Ben in an Atlanta Hawks game. She has since that moment, just a few weeks ago, been named a captain of the U.S. women's national team that has five gold medals,

four World Cups and going forward. will win absolutely everything for the next hundred years. The most dominant team on a global scale that we have, she is the leader of it. She's 23 years old. She's also the highest paid professional women's sports athlete of all time. Front of the program we hope going forward, ladies and gentlemen, Trinidad. Yeah, Trinidad.

How are you, Trinney? How's everything? I'm great. Sorry about my lighting. I'm hotel living. I don't have as good of a backdrop as you guys. Yeah, we're in a studio. It's kind of messed up there.

We kind of put you in this spot here. appreciate you joining us from the hotel, though. We do appreciate that. Where are we at right now? I know you've had a couple U.S. women's national team games, obviously scoring in both them. We got the sexy day. Hey, hey, hey, incredible stuff out of you, especially as you're named captain for your first game. You score a goal and then you back it back up. Are you guys in the middle of a run right now? What is the U.S. women's team doing? And what hotel kind of run are you with right now?

We've been in L.A. We went to Santa Barbara for that game that you're seeing right now. but I had to drive back to LA for some media stuff including this. But yeah, next week I go back with my NWSL team and we do preseason in Florida. Okay, so let's talk about that. You get three years, $2 million per, okay? All of our professional contracts are exposed to the public. Whenever your contract is exposed to the public and told, I think it is incredibly inspiring for the next generation of everybody.

How do you feel being named a person that is going to be dependent upon for the next generation of women's sports, but also the future of the NWSL as a whole, Trinity, that's a huge honor, and it's a very good thing to be bestowed upon you. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. Obviously, the pay is a plus, but it's been so fun, just like developing and becoming the player that I am

and really showing, like, my personality, my goofiness, my celebrations, all the fun stuff. But yeah, I think this is another stepping stone for women's sports and women's soccer, and I hope that it continues to go on the incline and we get more and more fans, more and more attention, and just get better and better so people actually want to watch us, you know. Gotham won last year, okay, from our research, Gotham won last year.

That's not going to happen again. Are we, is your team, okay, I'm going to pick your team as my team. Okay, your team is my team. Well, I mean, you kind of have to at this point. Okay, I'm picking your team. We're Washington. Do we have chance? Do we have anything?

How do I get it? And how are we? Are we going to win this whole damn thing this year? Are we good team? We're great team? Well, yeah, I'm going back my team. We're pretty good. We made it to the final two, the past two years and lost the past two years.

So I'm thinking third time's a charm. Oh, yeah, and we got like a little chip on our shoulder, underdog story, too, after not winning the finals. Yeah, pretty much. Washington Spirit, here we come. Okay, and I like, okay, I like that they say, hey, you're the future of the entire league. We want you to do it here.

I'm a Washington Spirit fan. Gotham's very good. This league's been around 11 years, I think. Yeah, 2015, maybe, 2016. We know Patrick Mahomes in the Mahomes families with the Kansas City Comedy. It feels like the NWSL is growing leaps and bounds right now, for real. When's season start and when is like playoffs and everything going to get really going? Season starts in March and our first game is at home, so that's exciting.

And I mean, you should be an owner of Washington Spirit. Join the league. Join it. Okay, sounds good. Trini, are you able to negotiate those things? You probably are, I assume. I'll talk to my people. I'll talk to my people.

Yeah, please do. I think your people are pretty important in this entire thing. I got a daughter who's two years, seven months, she's got a sick left foot. Hey, every time you're cutting back and putting that in, it's like I'm showing her. You know, and then I go to AI. I put her face on your face, so she thinks she did it. Seeing it, it's happening. Yeah, it's Queens Gambin. So what you're doing, I'm very grateful for McKenzie, but also girls everywhere as they continue sport.

Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, I guess, did you know, I guess, the magnitude and how much attention they would draw when you signed this, this awesome contract and you get all this money. Did you have any idea of the impact? And I would imagine there's people reaching out to you that you may not have talked to or like friends all over the place. But where do you think women's soccer is going as well?

This is just one small step, I think, for everybody. This is good for every player, young and old. Yeah, I mean, I obviously knew it was going to be a pretty big announcement just because it's obviously never been done before. And there's been just so much talk around pay and increasing that and keeping the best player. in the NWSL.

But yeah, I think it's really good for the league, especially because our best players have been leaving to go overseas to get paid more. But I think if we can keep just raising the ceiling on what the NWSL can be, it's going to be even more, and the skill is going to be more, and then it's going to get better and better

and harder for these players to leave and ultimately get more players to come over here from overseas, which I think is great. but yeah the phone's been pretty busy people i haven't talked to in a while and that's just natural i think you start succeeding and everybody's in your phone so you just got you just got to stay in your bubble and in your circle and that's kind of what i've been doing well thanks for let us in because we certainly came calling immediately so that's not i yeah you're talking i'm like not to call anybody out no yeah we're certainly a part of it but we are thankful that you're

allowing us to kind of spotlight it because we have a professional women's volleyball team here in Indianapolis and Fisher's area. They fill up their arena. It feels like women's sports really having an active movement right now, at least in the United States of America, and signing that contract is such like a good staple of like, yeah, this shit's going. And you, once again, the honor of it happening for you, feels like you're the perfect person for it. In Washington and the NWSO aren't the only people saying that. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Trinity, with the national team, both men's and women's. You know, that's such a massive honor to be the captain.

That becomes kind of the face of those teams, especially with the Olympics and the World Cup. What was it like putting on the captain's arm band? Can you kind of feel the moment and how important it is, especially with the captains before you as well? I mean, yeah, for sure. I think even now this is going to be my sixth year in the league, which is crazy because I'm still only 23.

So it's like a weird thing of like I'm kind of a veteran in a sense, but at the same time, I'm still so young, and I'm, like, trying to, like, follow the footsteps of these past, like, captains and current captains, because Lindsay Heaps is going to come right back and take the arm band back for me. But it was an honor for sure, obviously growing up and looking up to the national team. And then being in the national team, then being the face, one of the faces of the national team is always an honor. But then having that armband, you have a lot of responsibilities. There was a couple team talks.

I was like, oh, I got another speech. I got another speech. I got to grab this banner. I got to do this. It was like a lot of pressure, but I think I did a good enough job and then scoring and doing that with the armband was pretty cool.

Yeah, absolutely. Sexy Dexy with the captain's arm band in U.S. Women's National Team play is obviously fantastic. Are you going to continue with this? Is this going to be your thing? Will you change as you go forward or is that all TBD? In terms of celebrations? Yeah, sexy Dexy going to be celebration for how long?

No, no, no. It's already trademark. That's somebody else's. I'll all keep changing my celebration. Okay, sick. Can we? So what I just heard is. we can pitch.

Okay. Is that what I just? We can pitch celebration ideas? Yes. Okay, we'll send them over. Now is not the time. We will have a full brainstorm. I will get at an altitude that is proper. I will imagine as if we score a goal in the moment and what we think would be cool. And we'll send them your way.

Okay, we will send them your way. Just because it's so good for everybody. It's good for sport. Whatever, what you are doing is seen by the masses. And you certainly are. You're electrifying, Trinity. And on that note, we need more of, that to happen. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, we do.

Trini, we've got, I think, six or seven daughters in this office, so I need to know the path. Are we doing club? High school, are we playing multiple sports? How did we get to where we are today? And also, day-to-day, what are we doing?

She's two years, seven months, my daughter. Start young, toe touches. What do we... Yeah, we're tapping a ball. I mean, Pat, I think your daughter should be on the field at least three hours a day to zoning now. No, I'm just kidding. I think I don't know my like route to where I'm at now is abnormal I feel like like I played youth soccer growing up like all the way up until high school and then I was kind of in school, home school and had national teams. So I think just like club soccer up until maybe college, but also college has changed a lot.

So I am the worst person to ask. I had a really good path, really easy path for the most. No, it's not easy. It was really easy because you worked your ass off, Trinity. Let's make sure everybody understands that, you know? Like, yeah, you worked your ass off for their path to be easy. Yeah, because whenever people came to watch you, they saw what you did. And they're like, well, that seems like we need to go ahead and help there.

17, you got drafted? How old were you when he got drafted? 18. Is that normal? That seems abnormal. That's abnormal? No, it's pretty abnormal or was at the time. Now we got a lot of young ins in the league and starting their journey.

So it's becoming more normal. and I think it's great because you're starting the development super early with the professional players. But yeah, I was a little baby for sure. Still I am. Yeah, but growing up in a professional league is crazy, you know, having to manage all of that. You obviously don't live a normal life, but you worked your ass off. Never forget it. Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Trinity, I read that you initially committed to UCLA but then decided on Washington State instead, but actually never played in college because of COVID. I'm just curious because at this point with like, NIL and everything, they're kind of just letting like 28-year-old dudes, 35-year-old dudes go back and play. Seeing what you've already accomplished in your career, have you considered maybe like,

you know what, maybe I will just go back to UCLA? West Virginia. Go back to West Virginia, winning Natty. Iowa is also very good in the Big Ten, but have you considered maybe doing that? Like, hey, I'll go back to school, maybe take like three credit hours and I'll win like three national champions. What's that? Why are you saying?

No. Just to add that to the resume. Um, no, um, school is not my thing. It was a great little couple months I was at Washington State. My brother was there. And yeah, the school, like I couldn't fathom doing work and like, no, absolutely not. That's awesome. I'm cool where I'm at. Yeah, I'm a professional athlete.

All right. So what are we learning? If what we're learning is going to pay me $2 million a year for three years, Cool. I'm certainly here to listen, but from my understanding what soccer's about to be for me, do you have, when you were doing this, you have a hand cat? Do we have a hand tat right there? Yeah, a little something. Okay, so do the women, because the dude soccer players all get the sleeves, right? Don't they, they all do the sleeves? Women's soccer, similar or no?

I think we have a mix. I think more no tatted than tatted, but I think it's becoming more and more as we go. But yeah, I started with my hands. I don't really have any other tattoos, which is also abnormal. But we'll see if we add to that. You're a professional athlete, Trinney. You can do wherever you want. You get a face-tack. If you get a pass. If you're a pro athlete, you can do whatever you want. If you're good, if you're ass, you can't do shit. But if you're good, you don't back it up. Yeah, exactly. If you're good, you can do whatever. Okay, the NWSL, you talk about our good players going overseas. Do we have a lot of American players in the NWSL? Is it majority American players? Oh, yeah, majority,

American players, but the internationals, the numbers are going up for sure. You're having a lot of players come over here as the years go on. And it's great for the league. They're amazing players and they're adding so much. Do they, do you guys do like a USA versus the world as the all-star game for the NWS? Not yet. All right. So this is what we're doing. Okay, I'm going to get me with your people with Washington Spirit. I would like to get involved. If we're paying six mil over three years for one player, there's going to be more on the way. I'm so incredible. pumped to watch you continue to ascend. Thank you for doing what you're doing and keep killing it, Trinity. Thank you. Thank you for having me. What happened with Ben? Where we lost? What happened?

I saw he's winning and then I saw we lost. We played a really good guy, I heard. Yeah, I love how it's always a weed. Yeah, we did. Yeah, sinners pretty good. So I think at some point, Ben will get him, but he's getting better and better and I'm proud of him for sure. How is it for you too, obviously in the very public eye, but you came together in the public eye and getting to meet you. It was, it was cool to see how smitten you two were. It was like really cute to see little, you know, the young love between you two. How has that been? Obviously, being a topic of conversation amongst people on the internet and tabloids and such. I mean, it's amazing. Like you said, we're just like little kids in love is what it feels like. But it's been amazing. Like

being able to support each other in different sports is cool. He's learning a lot about soccer. I'm learning a lot about tennis, and then on top of that, like, just doing fun things together with that. I mean, obviously, you get a lot being pro athletes. You get a lot of opportunities together. So just taking advantage of those, but also, like, when we're off, we're isolated and we're taking advantage of that, too. So you thought I would lose, I think, 11 Zip and Pingpong the Ben, I think, is a,

or maybe he said that. And then you said, you're getting good at tennis too, right? Aren't you? I think you're getting good at tennis as well? Yeah, I'm getting pretty decent, yeah. Would I be able to beat either of you in any paddle game, you think? I feel like you would definitely beat me in ping pong. Oh, but anything involves athletics, yeah.

You talk about it forward. Yeah, like something that's like maybe a one or two-step thing. Ladies and gentlemen, the future of sports old. An absolute beast. We appreciate the hell out of you for joining us. Congrats on everything and keep going. Yeah, thank you so much. Ladies of gentlemen, Trinity Rodman.

Yeah, Trinity, ladies. She's pretty awesome. She is. Her and Ben were like a really cool thing, like watching them together. Because they are just trying to act like a cut, like, you know, but obviously Ben, very tall. Very tall. Trinity. As soon as you see her, it's like, oh, that's Trinity Rodman.

And even if you don't know Trinity Rodman is, you're like, that's, that is somebody right there for sure. So they're just trying to act normal. AJ freezes up on TV. You get a little nervous talking to Trinity Rodman. I see your screen freezing up over there, age. You get a little choked up about it all? A little bit. Yeah.

I guess I was. Yeah. I didn't even know. Hey, what if she, hey, she feels like she has it. She's only 23. She's been professional for, what, six years already? Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable what her path might be. As you were talking about school, she was literally like, no.

Absolutely. I think it's a little different now than maybe whenever it was six years ago. Yeah, you don't have to do school when you go back. Isn't that crazy? Didn't Carson, like, say that? Carson Beck came out and was like, I haven't had a class in six months ago. Yeah, two years. How's that work?

I don't know. It shouldn't. I don't know how that works. You just take a couple classes, I guess, towards a graduate degree. year round. You're just doing, like, during the summer, you can probably load up your entire. He's definitely not loading up in summer. No. I'm thinking once you graduate, there's like a, you only have to take some sort of class. You might not even have to do with that. And it's all online, too. I think the majority of your stuff, you can take online as well. The summer classes are the worst. The summer workouts. Every year. Yeah. And that was like 25 years ago. Like, I'm sure they're much easier now.

Oh, you're saying they're not real. No. Yeah. Because I do wonder if he even has to sign up for it. Like, Carson Beck, I think, he's, I think. he just had eligibility remaining. So I think that is an option. Like he could have went and got like a master's degree, but I think it's like, hey, you still have two years. Like you graduated. That's cool. You're a football player. I had a friend who got a gray shirt,

which means he didn't start until after the first semester. Then he got a blue shirt, which I believe was a medical thing because he got hurt. Then he got a red shirt. And then he played out the rest of the thing. I was signing my contract, my second contract in the NFL. Yeah.

after he was playing his senior year of football. It was after I got franchise tag and I was signing my second year and we started technically same signing class. It was wild. So that was happening back then. Now it's just happening seemingly all the time. So Iowa played USC in basketball last night

and one of the players who starts for USC is names like Baker Mazzara is his last name. I believe he's 26 years old. They said he is older than 50.4% of the players in the NBA. And he's been at U.S. USC just for forever. I mean, Miami's got a 26-year-old coming back to play lineback. Bo Torre.

It's a great player. I don't want to say we've kind of been on this since the beginning, but the Australian punters kind of opened this up. The Australian punters kind of open up this entire pipeline of we never went to school. And so what are you going to do about it? Because kind of ipso facto, if I never started university or second education or wherever the hell it is. The clock never started for me to maybe lose my eligibility. So since I didn't go to college and I had an entire professional Aussie rules football career, I think I can come over

there now and be freshmen. And then somebody looked into it and they're like, yep, we got 27-year-old freshmen, Aussie freshman, Aussie, who retired? That guy retired? How old's he? He's got full family? Is he ever going to get in trouble? Will we show up in class? Yep. Okay. How far can he kick it? 42 yards every time. Done. Boom. Give us that guy. And it started becoming like a thing. It's like 27 year old, 28 year old, 25 year old, even like a 23 year old freshman. That's quite an advantage over a 17 year old who's trying to get the scholarship. And now it's kind of filtering into all sports because of how everything's kind of wide open. Going to have to get a wrangle on that entire thing. Because like 17 year old, you know,

and once again, Aussie folks, all have been nice to me. I respect the American dream opportunity that has come. It's not their fault that that was a thing. But that was certainly like the first real batch of that happening. Also, guys who got drafted in a baseball, baseball. Joe Klatte. Yeah, they come in at 26 years old as a freshman because they played five six years. Drew Henson, if remember that.

Henson, yeah. J.R. Haas did it. Yes, J.R. Haas. For West Virginia, but he obviously didn't go on to have the success as a football quarterback. Is there everybody else? But he came back, I think, because he had shoulder, some sort of injury, and he came back, played football at WVU

because in high school, he was the greatest quarterback in the history of West Virginia High School football. I think he had like 10 touchdowns in the state finals or something like that, like something ridiculous. and then he would go down to Florida in the spring and do baseball. And then the Pirates draft him, I think, first round. So he did the whole baseball thing, made it, made it, made it. Then he had an injury.

Then he was like, I'll go back to West Virginia, maybe try football at this thing. Rehabed his shoulder with us. Did the whole thing. He was a great leader of us. But yeah, he was like 26 years old driving an escalator, I think he drove me a class one time. Yeah, Chris Winky, I think when he got drafted by the Panthers after he won the He got drafted when he was 29. Like he was a starting quarterback at Florida State and he was 29 years old.

So this has happened. for a long time in different ways, but now it feels like it's being like a strategy as opposed to just like happening and now it's like a strategy like, well, what do we even need to talk to high school kids? We can get G-League bus. They're going to be better

in Big 12. So let's go ahead and just do that. Got to put some, hey, need to score rails here age. I thought after the whole COVID we got out of the COVID thing now it's going to come back somewhat to normal. No. They claim. I doubt it. I guess you just have to have a reason to get an extra year

You got a petition and then they got to approve it and all that. What's going on on Winni-Dad? Have we heard anything about Winnet Dad? What about Diego? Are they going to let him play now, are you? I don't think so. He's climbing up draft boards as we speak. He is actually reports out of the senior boards

that he's actually performing very well down there. Ball in? Yeah. I like that. He's a competitor. That's not shocking, though. I think he would ball out down there. His size is obviously going to be talked about going for.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who knows quarterback play in the NFL very well. Also in college. This guy's former national champion. This guy's been the offense coordinator for the Buffalo Beals. This guy always has a fresh fade. Every single time I've ever seen him throughout all these years of a ball.

Incredible fade. Anytime you see a what with an incredible fade as a what who fades his own hair, that is something that you have to admire, especially being on top of it seemingly all the time. The new head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Joe Brady. Yeah, yeah, coach.

fade, really good. Yeah, that should happen this morning. It looks like we got that thing tightened up. Not quite, but close, man. Close. I'm losing it up top, but as long as we got the fade on the side, we're good to go. Yeah, but you got head coach money right now, so you can forget that figured out. You can get that figured out right now. I might look a little, I might look a little different in a couple years. Hey, Wayne Rooney did it. He seemingly had a similar look here so you could maybe see him for precedence there. Congratulations, dude. Congratulations. Head coach in the NFL. Now, whenever they move on for McDermott, the decision is made.

There's a press conference. There's a lot of confusion. What are they going to do? Sean McDermott would be hired literally anywhere if he was to be released. And then he's saying he's sitting out of year. You're in the building. You get hired as the head coach. What was the conversation like to get the job?

And now that you have it, what do you think some of the advantages are of you being able to stay there and potentially keep the culture in the core the same? Yeah. I mean, look, like obviously that I expected to happen with Coach McDermott? You know, but once the opportunity, once it happened, and this was an opportunity that came along, like, this is exactly where I wanted to be. And obviously, you know, got afforded the opportunity. And look, like you said, they went straight from a press conference to my interview. And I didn't know what I didn't know what to how to expect.

I'm going to be honest with you. It was it was one of those opportunities that's like, hey, are they just going to sit there and be like, hey, we check the box. This guy's the in-house, man, and let's keep it moving. And look, I walked into that. And I came away so damn impressed by the ownership group, Brandon B. as you guys know, Bean, and Josh sitting in there. And, like, I'm with these guys on a day-to-day basis, but they treat it as if I was the, you know,

the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints, right? And, man, I appreciated that so much. And, I mean, it was intense. But, look, I was sweating it out for a week, but there's no world. I didn't want to just be a head coach. I wanted to be the head coach of Buffalo Bills, man. And, man, I'm loving life right now. I love to hear that.

Congratulations. A lot of expectation, obviously, because the man that you talked about that was sitting in there in the room, Josh Allen and how great he is. You've obviously seen it. You've witnessed it. What are the questions in there? Are they talking about, okay, you have an MVP quarterback. We have the best runner in the backfield and James Cook. Our offensive line was voted the number one offensive line in football by AQ Shipley in the trenches. What is the conversation? What is the interview like? And what did they not know about you maybe that they learn in that interview process that make you

think that you can be the head guy? Well, I think, look, the biggest thing is there's a complete difference of just calling plays and then running an organization and understanding how to lead a group of men. I'm not the offensive coordinator anymore, you know, and making sure that I understand how to communicate with the defensive guys and have a vision for what I want, what I want that to look like with our special teams and what's going to look like standing in front of a room. And look, they put me through the ringer, you know, and look, we got to grow our offense. So it's not one of those things where it's just like, hey, offense check, let's keep it moving. And just making sure that they allowed me the opportunity to kind of talk about my vision, you know, and everything that we do.

And, look, Josh didn't toss me in the alley, oops. You know, I hit him after. I was like, you couldn't give me a little. I've been with you. You know, you could have hit me a little something. And, no, he approached it the right way. And I have so much respect for how we handled it. And, you know, obviously I removed myself in the situation with him.

But he's not the first quarterback that sat in one of these meetings that I've been in. But I know he takes a little heat from it. But, man, he was outstanding. And look, I get the call plays. to Josh and there's no one I love more. You said you're not the offense coordinator for the bills anymore. You're still going to call plays, though, as the head coach, right? You're just adding another title.

Yeah, okay, okay. That's obvious. I hate... Our defensive guys need to know that. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not an offensive head coach. I'm a head coach. And, like, I just told the guys out there, like, I can't wait for the first practice

to go out there and Josh to throw a fucking pick, and I get to celebrate with the defense. Like, I can't wait to be able to talk shit to our fucking offense attack. I can't do it. I can't wait. I don't want it to happen. Yeah, of course. of course, because it's on you, kind of, but I know what I mean. But, like, I need them to know that I'm in it with them now.

You know what I mean? Like, and it's not like, hey, I'm going out to practice and I'm just yelling at the defense. You know, it's like, no, no, no, let's go. And I want them to feel that. And so I hope that that's a mentality and a mindset that our guys have is, they can't view me in the same way. And so it's not, hey, business as usual, hey, Sean McDermott out, Joe Brady in, and we're just keeping it moving. Like, there's got to be a different mentality in the way that we go about it.

And I'm excited for it. Go ahead, AJ. I assume right now you're working on trying to build a, your staff. I don't know if that's something I assume over your years in the league and in college, you build relationships. You want to plan for that in the future when you do become a head coach. Now that you are a head coach, is that, I guess, what's that process been like so far and how important is it for you to get the right people in place? That's everything to me. Like, as I've, look, this isn't, I've been, my whole life, you're kind of sitting there preparing and trying to

take notes working for Champaign going through these things like, hey, if you ever get in this opportunity, man, like stay ready so you don't have to get ready, right? And so, But now that it's sitting here, it's like, all right, what's exactly going to look like? And I'm not interested in hiring friends. I only get one opportunity to be a head coach. And it's important that I understand that, like I say it all the time. We're going to be quick putting a staff together, but we're not going to be in a hurry, right? John, like, it is important that I get the right people, the personalities, not getting, if I get a lot of Joe Brady's, I'm going to fail.

Right. I need different mindsets, different backgrounds, personalities, different type of teaching and putting that all together. but I also want guys that are comfortable being the, you know, like I am who I am, man. I fucking curse, right? I slur words. I can't put it all together. I got the worst grammar, but I'm comfortable being me and I want guys to be them, man. And I kind of roll with it, man.

And I think our guys play to their personality and that's what we're going to do. You know what I mean? Listen, man, I'm mumbled every once in a while. You get the fucking point. All right? That's it. You don't understand what I'm saying. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And then once I get the caffeine in me and I'm talking before a game and I'm rolling, like, I don't know what the hell I'm saying. but it's, they, the guys know that I love them and I'm going to fucking do whatever I got to do for them. Okay, so let's talk about the expectations. Obviously, you have high expectations already on yourself, but McDermott gets let go after what some places would say a successful season. Obviously, not making it to the Super Bowl is the conversation about, can we get there?

Can we get? How do you kind of manage the expectations being absurd for a first time NFL head coach, but also understanding that that's a reality of the Buffalo Bills with Josh Allen as a quarterback? Yeah, I mean, I wanted the job because of that. Like, like, I'm not going to shy away from expectations. Like, there's no one, no one from me, like, I'm still a GA with a mindset. Like, I showed up to work with the same mindset. Nothing's changing from that. So if I'm focusing on expectations from other people, there's a standard by how we do things here. And it's my mindset to be able to change that mentality and making sure that we can do whatever that is to be able to get to where we haven't gotten. But I'm not shying, shying away from me. Like, I'm embracing it. And I want our guys to know that. But like, I don't believe. even anybody rises at low expectations. Like, who the hell wants to be somewhere where you're sitting there going into it and not having, you know, a mindset and feeling like we got a chance. Like, we got 17.

And when you show up every single day, they got to know that they got to fucking play us and not the other way around. I don't think you mumble, by the way. I just think you speak very fast. I'm, I'm excited right now. I'll slow down for you, bro. No, don't. I turn up my, I'll listen a little faster.

50 cents said that. If you can't understand what I'm saying, just listen to a little family. Like, that is whenever you're chatting, you didn't flub right there. Your WPMs were very high and you didn't flub. I was actually listening for a full up because I can potentially be a fast speaker every once in a while as well. So whenever I heard you get going,

I'm like, wait a second, is Joe Brady's brain about to go really pop off in this thing? And it was. You're like, Buster rhymes in there, twist it. You didn't miss a single beat, brother. I respect you.

And then you got the, obviously the, I mean, you, you're crushing it right now. Joe, you're crushing it right now. I know. It's going, it's going up too much, man. Like I need a trip to turk. Headband, headband.

Headband. You need to start wearing a double headband like LeBron. That's true. That is true. that can change the game like that on the sideline too something to think about your uh because bellichick has the cutoffs obviously some people have the visors some people are cool you having a big headband just a massive headband bring jim McMahon back we're rolling yes yes yes i think that is not a bet something to think about listen we're just ideas here we're just great if it's first

couple days go ahead con man yeah joe obviously you see the helmet on a patriots fan so i'm not going to wish a good luck per se but it is very nice you know to see you as a head coach especially you from your journey at LSU that we all followed. But have you thought about the fact that you were going to be the first head coach in Buffalo Bill's history to coach in the brand new stadium? Have you kind of grasped that and kind of wrapped your mind around that? And also, can you give us an update as far as how big the buffaloes are outside of the stadium if that is something that you know?

Need to be big. Yeah, well, you guys are going to have to come here to check that out and find out for yourselves. Hell yeah. You know, I mean, like, it's time to make a trip to Buffalo. Deal. You know what I mean? Like, that's exactly what it's got to look like.

But, yeah, it's, first, I struggle, I struggle talking to you wearing what you're wearing. But, yeah, you know, it's almost like I wanted to just skip your question. You can. He's living the high life right now, Joe. Yeah, I could ask you at the Super Bowl, but Patriots are there. Sorry. Hey, Josh. Hey, there he is.

Josh, what up, dude? How you doing, man? I'm good. How you guys doing? Good. We saw you crutch your ass into his press conference. Everybody's like, you know what, Josh loves Joe. He crutches ass in there.

That's an accurate assessment, I believe. He's not even hurt. That's the crazy thing. All for show. Honestly, I could play on Sunday if we needed me to. I would. I know you would, yes. That's why you're Josh Allen, brother,

and that's why everybody wanted that gig. Hey, he talked about you being in the interview room, and he said you got a lot of shit, and he talked about how other rooms there are buildings that he's gone to. The quarterback's been in there as well. He said you kind of separated church and state there whenever you're doing the interview process. How much did you enjoy that? And how pumped you for

Joe to get the gig up there? Very, very excited for Joe. Obviously, he, again, we talked about it. I didn't do anything for him. He did it himself. But I got to be in there, and it was a unique perspective to kind of, like you said, separate church and state, ask him some hard-hidden questions. But we've got to ask him one question now. What watch is he going to get? I got him on to watches. I'm just kind of into the watch game. And he said when he gets a head coaching job, whether it was here or somewhere else, that he was going to get himself a watch. And now, we've got to find him a watch. Joe, that's awesome that Josh is buying you and all the new coaches watches. That's so cool. Thank you, Josh. You're a hero, Josh.

Broly, presidential. Is that what you're looking for too, Joe? Maybe the dawn? That's the exact one I want. I think we could find one like in New York, on one of the streets. Good place to get them. Yep. It's a good place again. That's not a bad idea. People never know. He's a head coach.

Josh, Josh, obviously you got rehab for how long? Is that already projected out? Is that just what your off season is now? You're going to be good for everything coming forward and spring and everything? We'll be gravy. You're the man, Josh. Thank you for popping in.

I appreciate it. You two. Cheers, dude. Hell yeah, Josh. Legend. Absolutely legend. Okay. Last couple questions, if that's okay, Joe.

Yeah, sorry. Let me get you right. When you get Josh Allen, you got him in the camera. Yeah, I see you get him in the camera. Yeah, I see you get him. it. Yeah, usually Josh Allen comes in and I just get out of the way, but you know, here we know. Hey, you get it.

This is a first. This is a first. That might be why you got the gig right there, actually. Okay, so let's say you're doing an interview with that Dipship McAfee. Okay, Josh Allen comes here. What are you doing with the camera? Let me move that thing. Let me go ahead and move that thing. Go ahead. Go ahead. He's done on my crutches and I'm sitting down

and I don't even let them sit. Oh, is there a riff in Buffalo? Yeah, go ahead, John. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, coach, during the press conference, there was a lot of talk about Bill's draft picks and, you know, disagreements, maybe between coaches in the front office. Have you talked to Bean yet about what your role is going to be in the draft process, or was that part of the interviews at all?

Yeah, look, like, Brandon Bean and I are in this together. Like, this isn't Joe Brady. This isn't Brandon Bean. Like, we're like this. And what I love, I've had an opportunity to work from. You know, a lot of times you take a, you get a new job. And it's like, hey, everyone, you know, we're acting like we're best friends. We've never worked together.

Like, I've been in it through, I've been in it with Brandon Bean and understand how we think. And understand that we can have the tough conversations and like the alignment that we have, like, we can disagree. And I'm good with that. And so, uh, but once we leave and just not disagree too much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the people are showing up everywhere.

Oh, look at you guys running for president up there. Matton, dudes. Yeah, you guys look good. Oh, yeah. All right. I'm out. All right. All right.

All right. See you, suit. See you, sir. See you, man. Yeah. Yeah, I get, man, this suits. I'm not a sweet guy. But yeah, no.

Like at the end of the day, I'm going to be involved in the draft of visions, and he wants that collaboration, and that's who he is. And, like I said, we're not going to agree on everything. But when we can agree to disagree, but we're in that room when we open that door, there's an organizational decision and we're freaking rolling. Congratulations on finding somebody you're on the same page with obviously having to coexist for the last few years and understanding how each other operates a big deal. There's like people who, you know, get married.

and never lived together beforehand, you know? And then it's like, man, toothpaste potential thing. Like there's like so many, so many little things that you have no idea what could be. You being in the building with Bean while operating there feels like it's a good play. And then your McDermott connection, is William and Mary just like, what is this place? Is this where all the, what is it? Honestly. Yeah, well, look, the McDermott actually played.

Tomlin actually played. like I had I had more I should have just been for the brain like I was I was special teams just going down running down on punting I had three career catches so I was good I sucked at football um you know like I had a spade of spade like I like I had three career cats I had more tackles than I had catches so like um you know it is yeah no but they don't if I changed my number I could have told people I was a DB and it might have might have put my credit up a little bit so uh but no it's William and Mary man we we we're we're small but we're proud and we almost realize we can't play in playing football. We just appreciate our parents for paying a lot of money for education and we get into coaching. And then become head coaches. And I think if they go the same way the last two have gone, you're going to be in a good spot. Your name has been hot for a long time. We've known you and heard of your name potentially being in this particular role for a while. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, coach, although you may have sucked at football in your words, post-LSU when you guys win the national championship, like you were kind of annoyed it. It's like, hey,

be on the lookout. This guy is going to be a head coach. And through the last several cycles, you have always been one of those guys. And I'm happy that you didn't just go ahead and like take the Brown's job or like take one of these jobs where you know, you're probably going to be looking for something else in a few years. But do you feel like now you are way more prepared than you were maybe when you were the O.C. and Carolina are coming out of LSU? Like, why do you feel like now is the right time? And how how much do you feel like you've learned? in these last several years of calling plays and being the O.C. Yeah, I mean, look, that's real.

Like, you know, they always say, hey, when you're putting together staff, you know, like I try to pride myself on being proactive my own development. And just because, you know, we've all been through coaches that, like, you've got two guys that have, one's been coaching 20 years, both of them have been coaching for 20 years. But one has been doing the exact same thing for the last 10. And the other one for the last 10 is continuing to evolve and grow. And I try to pry myself on, like, trying to reinvent myself every year.

And the systems out on around and knowing that football's changing and growing. And so, look, I'm as ready as I possibly can be to be a head coach right now, right? Like, I've never been a head coach. The only way to get head coaching experience is to be a head coach. Like, I'm going to have to go through it. And I know there's so many elements that I don't know. But I wanted to be a head coach with the right people in the right spot. And I wanted to be right here right now.

And I'm so grateful to be able to be a part of Buffalo Bills. But I'm a different person now than I was five years ago. And that's just because I've tried to make sure that I'm growing and learning. And look, I got an opportunity to be around Josh. kind of changed my mindset and view on how I, how I coach and how I see the game. And it's, it's been a huge shot. I'm here because of him. Congratulations.

We're pumped for you. And I also appreciate the fact that you're a buffaloan already. You know, Sal Capotino certainly going to think. You showed up with shorts. I like that. You run hot. I run hot as well. What's the temperature in that office?

64, 65? We don't turn it on. We just let it roll. We like to let the outside kind of going in. But that's what I wear every single day. Like I get dressed in the dark. I wear a black shirt, every single day. So it don't matter the temperature. If it's the summer or the winter,

it is what it is. It's cold out. I'm going to just hurry up and get my ass inside. I like that. You, Steve Jobs, just kind of eliminating the decision from your day, except for winter. Yeah, I also have two kids. And I got a nine-week-old, so I don't have a choice but to get dressed in the dark, too. So it doesn't make a difference. Congratulations to you and the family. Head coach, new baby. Life is good for Joe Brady. Just got to win the Super Bowl, Joe. No pressure. Good luck. Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

Thanks for having me all, man. Huge fan. Let's make sure those bison's are big. Yeah. Big. I'm telling you, when you guys come to check it out, man, you guys can judge for yourselves. God, I can't wait to get up there.

You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach the Buffalo Bills, Joe Brady. Yeah, Joe! That was an active, that was an active combo. Like Joe. Like Joe. Awesome.

He seemed great. He and Bean wearing matching uniforms as well. Perfect. Yeah, hey, red tie, a little thing, blue suit. Actually, Joe Brady from what we just, learn about him quickly there, there's a chance he doesn't have a suit. And they say, hey, your suit will be at your.

Yeah, yeah, you're right. You know, we'll have somebody come tie your tie for you to. He's been yanking that thing. All day. All day. All day. Shout out to the Buffalo Beals making it happen. The Baltimore Ravens happening that, I'm making that happen with Jesse Minter.

I'm happy that we're getting a chance. Oh, yeah. And then coach Mike McCarthy's on tomorrow. Boom. Hell yeah. Feels like it's been a little bit of a run here. Yeah. We're a little bit of run, AJ.

And then next week, whenever we're down. or we're over at Radio Row. There's a hilarious group. I think Christian McCaffrey's going to be joining us. I think Fred Warner's going to be joining us. I think Steve Irwin's boy is going to be joining us. Stop up. Yep.

I think there's bringing animals? I don't know, age. Are you going to be there? Bringing himself. Yeah, we don't know. It's going to be a massive week over there. We can't wait to get started. We'll be off Monday, Tuesday, back Wednesday for Radio Row

over there in San Francisco. It's going to be outrageous. We are very, very pumped to get out there. A storyline that has certainly taken over all of it has been the Hall of Fame voting process. And Bill Belichick's still not into Hall of Fame, AJ. Still not, huh? I didn't know. I thought maybe overnight they might change things.

It did. Actually. The Hall of Fame came out and they're like, yeah, we're looking into it. And we're certainly going to be taking away some people's votes if they don't follow. The bylaws of who's supposed to get in, who's not supposed to get in. There was one of the voters, a man from Kansas City wrote an entire thing on why he didn't vote for Bill to be in there. And he basically said he thought the other candidates, the senior candidates, because there's different categories. Players obviously go in contributors, their seniors, there's a whole

different bunch of different categories. One doesn't pull from the other, but unless you're in the same category as each other. And he basically said, these three guys, this is our last shot. Okay, it's kind of the last shot. So I didn't vote for Bill just because of the system. You know, the system is, you fix the system. And then it's like, well, the system is for you to vote who you think is the best in there, not just like who you feel bad for it that maybe isn't going to have anymore. Well, a system may force me to do it. It's like, like, okay, so there's one of the nose. Yep.

Now we needed 10 other nose. Is it going to be the same reason? And it does feel like potentially that people are like, enough people will vote for Bill. I'm going to go ahead and do this. I don't really love them, but somebody will put them in there. And it was just kind of so many people did the, I don't really love them because they're media,

and he really hasn't done it. Somebody else will do it. Somebody else will do it. And turns out not enough people actually did it. So now they're being called frauds. You know, they're being that entire thing. Bill Pollyan would like everybody to know, I'm not a, what do we do?

doing here. No way. Initial reports whenever it came out was that Bill Pollian actually campaigned against Bill Belichick in the room where it happened because of Spygate. Then the report came out and said, just talked to Bill. Bill voted for Bill Belichick to be a first ballot hallfamer. Then Don Van Nauta Jr. calls Bill Polian night of the entire report. Don Van Nata Jr. of ESPN, who we asked, come on show the other day. He respectfully declined. He broke the entire story of the league. He then talks to Bill Pollyon that night. Pollian might have been in bed. He's 83 years old.

It was later in the evening. He said, I don't remember, 95% sure I voted for him to go in there. Okay, so then everybody's like, that sounds like bullshit. Bill Belichick, Bill Pollian didn't vote for Bill Belichick, and he campaign against him.

So Bill Pollian went on to his radio show, okay, on Sirius XM, NFL radio, and he had a prepared statement. This is what he had to say. All right, thank you. I wrote this out, so I'm reading from the statement. I voted for Congress. Coach Belichick in the Hall of Fame selection meeting.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame has confirmed that fact through the auditors of the selection process. Again, I'll state that I never said that I believe that Coach Belichick should, quote, wait a year, close quote, for enshrinement. This has been confirmed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame, numerous selectors who are in the room, and my vote for Coach Belichick. as a Hall of Fame member and selector, I realize the import of what we do.

I've always tried as a selector to make these difficult choices with the utmost of it objectivity. I've said on Sirius XM radio and numerous other media outlets that I believe Coach Belichick to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. My vote confirms that.

So let's stop Slander and Bill Pollian. Okay, Bill Pollian became the face of he's the reason why he didn't get in and Bill Pullian's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I'm sure Bill Pullian has some ideas on why and who. And he is choosing not to, which is why he did the prepared statement. Because he would start probably his thoughts and then say, if you want to point your fingers at anybody, it's the, and I want to do it.

I mean, let me read from the statement right here. Let me read from the statement. So Bill would like clear his name. Guy for Cadd City said I was one of them. And it feels like we are going to maybe snake them out, but everybody could be lying at any time because it's all confidential. Yeah, right. And Bill Pullen said, I guess, you can ask the other voters,

hey, did you talk to them? I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They can lie right to your face because we're never going to see the results, right? Like the NFL or the Hall of Fame people, they're not going to put out everybody's voting. So, yeah, you can just lie.

You can even ask the auditors and the super duper confidential stuff. No, the Hall of Fame said it. People in there said I did it. It's like, well, did they actually? And then we'll ask him and they'll say, well, no, I'll talk about that, actually. And a discussion.

At least 11 of you, it feels like at least 11 of you had to have said no. It was me. It's like a reality game show. It's like mole. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like traitors. Yes.

Whatever. I mean, wouldn't you respect if someone comes out and says, yeah, no, I didn't vote for Bill because I think the whole Spygate thing was garbage. So Kansas City guy didn't say that. I know. That's what I thought he would. He might. But I did see a lot of people coming out and saying other stories from, I think, who's the Patriots guy on that one podcast who said we had their, uh, he basically, I forget the podcast. But he came out and, like, solidified, like, we had people's calls or something like that.

said we had it all and people were just running with that they're like they cheated they cheated they cheated and I'm like well did they cheat for 20 some years and if they did they got away with cheating but at least I could I would say hey I disagree with you I think you're wrong but thank you for at least giving me your your honest opinion on it yeah but you know these people aren't gonna yeah right every one of them will figure out a way to grandstand on something else they get grandstand yeah Yeah, I'll tell you what, my fellow voters that didn't vote for them, despicable. It's like push comes up probably. Yeah, exactly.

Which is why. I wouldn't want to be a voter. Why would you want to be a voter? Because you like the game. For this reason. This is why we're talking about loving sport, you know, as opposed to thinking that you run sport, own sport, you are gatekeeper of sport, you are the reason for sport. You are bigger than sport. It's like love of sport, love of hall is why people would want to do it.

I wouldn't want to do it. But if I was tasked with it, I would understand it's magnificent import. Yeah. No doubt. Without a doubt. It's an important thing. Yes, I absolutely would. Thank you, H.

Thank you for that. And once again, Bill Pullian is 83 years old. That's probably a problem. Jimmy Johnson's. The prepared statement. Yeah, we don't need a prepared statement. Well, that's the thing. Like, should Bill Pullian at 83 whenever he says, I'm 95% sure, should he be doing a vote actually?

No. You know, who's doing it? Then it's a whole. Well, who's the right answer? A.J. Hawk? Nope. He is a Hoffnom. Yeah.

Oh, he is officially a Hoffnom. But what does that mean now? Oh, some people are saying nothing. I hope not. The Hall of Fame matters. Damn it! That's how the show ended. Just like driver's license.

Great lead in. You should have to retest at a certain age for Hall of Fame vote or driving a car or many other things. Yeah. What would the test be? Probably. For the Hall of Fame nominations? Or the driver's test. You can go through both.

Hall of Fame. I would start with like, hey, what's your name? What day of the week is it? Okay, so that's like... Who won the Super Bowl last year? Yeah. Who's the MVP?

It feels like that could probably get rid of a couple right then and then. Maybe do like a memory match puzzle so you can remember who you voted for. Concussion test. Yeah, give them the concussion test. You're right. Baseline.

You got to give them a baseline when they get the job and then you got to retest every year to make sure you're okay. Personality test as well, just so we know they're not holding any grudges potentially? Is that a how do you get? Lie detector?

I'd say lie detector test. Yeah, but then you know some of these some of these will come in there with the tack on the toe. Penny underneath the tongue. And do the whole thing. Concussion no baseline either. They just take the concussion test

and then you have the baseline itself for someone who is too old. And then that is their baseline. So we're just testing against old. It's just one test against old, yeah. And we're not saying it's just the olds. We think there's a lot of youngs that don't know ball either.

So. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a part of the whole thing. It's just, I don't know. know. We'll find out in 10 years. It took a lot of heat for saying what I said, but I think it's becoming more and more evident every single time.

You're allowed to love ball. You're allowed to love the Hall of Fame. You're allowed to think like the Pro Football Hall of Fame is awesome. You're allowed to think like these are good things. You don't have to think like, I am the Hall of Fame. Some people have got these God complexes. It feels like they've been covering sports for a while. I mean, the Hall of Famers

should be the ones voting. And I know maybe those guys don't want to do it because it's kind of like, hey, that's not my place to say it. But The Hall of Famers who know ball, though, because there's some Hall of Famers who are probably just fishing for all the fall. Exactly. And you could do the same, like, cut off, you know, where it's whatever. But, like, those guys, like, how many people came out and said, like, this is a travesty that Bill's not in? Like, they take it very seriously. Obviously, for them, it is still, it's, it's the crowning achievement in a career that you gave your life for. Like, they should be the ones who kind of have a say to who joins them. Jimmy Johnson say he's not going.

Yeah. Fuck it. I'm done with it. Got a chartered jet. Had one fucking cancel it. Mm-hmm. That's incredible. I mean, I guess you have to be very diligent on your scheduling whenever you're a coach.

So him scheduling that plane already for Hall of Fame weekend. Incredible rates. Gene. I bet he got incredible rate. I'm going to lock into gas prices now for that flight. That's a long way where he's at. That's way down there. Yeah.

South Florida is so far down there. You forget how long Florida. is as you're flying. It's like, holy shit. Oh, yeah, I'm going to the Caribbean. I forgot about that. I'm going on. And Jimmy's like, yeah, I'm fucking living in it. That is what I'm doing out here. I lock myself in one of my little island rooms, four TVs. Don't

come in here. I'm going to go get some food. I'm going to come back. He has fat. So is he a free agent right now, TV free agent? I don't think so. I mean, technically, yes, but I think he is officially fucking, you know what? I'll pop on, do one of these from time to time. Other than that, don't fucking contact

me. Don't call me. I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want for the rest of my life. I want to let him know, and I think we all agree with this, and I hope he was told this by people around him. That was an incredible performance yesterday. Job well done. Live on air, like that. 82.

I mean, I'm 38, and there's some days where it's like, can't piece together what I want to say, especially if there's a little emotion behind it, which he certainly had, and he just nailed it. That's why he's a goat. That's why he's a goat. Speaking of goat conversation, it's got a basketball. LeBron was crying last night.

Yeah. LeBron and Lakers play against Cleveland Cavaliers. Cavaliers get a huge win. Might be LeBron's last time playing in Cleveland as they ran a tribute video on the Jumbotron. It seemed like the moment caught up with LeBron, you know, and maybe this is the last time he gets a chance to accept his flowers from the city in which he grew up near, in the city in which he literally saved and brought a championship to

and brought the entire state to celebrate in Cleveland. So I appreciated seeing this emotional moment for LeBron. the LeBron haters immediately go, this is all fake, this guy's acting right here. And I would like to say to those people, you have no idea what it would be like to watch a video from an organization telling you, thank you so much for saving our entire city.

LeBron might have got choked up last night, and I think for good reason, understanding and looking back as his career kind of hits the sunset portion of this, that he'd done pretty good. There's a lot of heat on them on a lot of occasions, obviously a lot of spotlight. He's brought a lot upon himself, I think,

with things that he's done and said and how things have gone, but he's certainly been one of the greatest, if not the greatest basketball player of all time. And a nice human moment kind of taking it in saying, I've done, maybe I did do good around here. It's a cool thing for me to see, AJ. I like this a lot of LeBron.

Didn't love that we were wearing two different colors. Feels like that's probably what the future is, I guess, but nonetheless, I appreciated what happened last night with LeBron and Cleveland. Yeah, I did too. I mean, I happened to turn this game on right as it was starting to get to watch all this. I know Cleveland ended up getting the

the victory. But yeah, like, how could you not? How could you not get emotional if you're LeBron sitting there? They showed, like, they had a little graphic of him as a high schooler, him, like, young, and all throughout his NBA career, different teams and everything. Like, I watched LeBron play at high school. Like, I went and watched him play at University of Dayton Arena, watched him almost ripped a hoop out of the ground. Like, watching him dunk as a 17, 18-year-old kid was something special. In fact, he's still playing the NBA. Like, that's absolutely wild. So, yeah, he should. Like, he should soak it up. He should enjoy this Some people say LeBron's not a human.

Had a human moment last night, Foxy, and now everybody wants to attack them for it. Yeah, I don't know why everyone has to do that. I mean, Cleveland, in my lifetime, and probably in all of your lifetimes, has never won a single thing in any sport except for when LeBron brought them that title. I'm sure he had so much emotions.

I mean, his son is there in the building on the team and gets to watch that with him. It was a special moment. I'm happy for LeBron if this is his last season. He deserves all of this at every single arena he plays. in this year, I think. Not only Brani there watching his mom was there, because he mentioned how my mom gets to see her

son and her grandson play for the same team. There was Brony chance towards the end of that game. We want Brony. He goes in, goes unconscious, gets a steal and a dunk, stepback three. Bronny goes crazy. The place goes nuts. I bet you last night was a special night for the James family,

even though they weren't able to get a win. And then afterwards, a guy on the Cavs, I don't know his name. I'm sure I'm supposed to. I apologize. Jalen Tyson. There it is. Jalen Tyson says, this is Donovan Mitchell City or whatever. It's like, well, if LeBron wants it to be his, though, that'll be like that. But I do respect Spita and everything he has done for Cleveland. So special night, long night, and the calves are all the way back.

Caves again, really good. Not like last year. They're still in it. They're still one of the teams in the East. You would assume is going to be there in the Final Four of the Eastern Conference. But they're not like last year. Last year they went on like historic run. And tell who?

inevitably until they played the Indiana Pacers, but they are not like they were last year. Oh, the Pacers. We're back next year. What's going on this year? Tyrese ain't playing. Frick Mattias Boozezezellis dropped 25 in their face last night. That's what's going on this year.

Yeah, but I saw Nemhart celebrating the other day. We got a big comeback. Oh, yeah. And I believe Carlisle is closing in. He got it already. He got it already. Okay, boom. There you go.

And Tyrese just posted an updated video. He looks really good. good right now. Is he dunking or what's he doing? It sure looks like he's dunking, he's shooting, I have the whole thing. Traveling? No, he dribbles. Well, traveling with the team is what I was going to say, and then right when it came out of my mouth, I realized, yeah, no, he's not traveling

because he doesn't do that. No, he's a step. Some of them? Yeah, it is weird. Tatum travels with the team. Like, it's interesting. I wonder if Tyrese is a couple weeks away from traveling with the team. Okay, so Tatum now, there was reports that he was going to potentially make it back for this season. Now there's another report coming out that

he's not going to. Yeah, once you, I think it's one of those things where it's like, hey, I don't know if anybody's seen my ex-account in a while, so I'm going to say this. I believe he just gave an interview and said if and when I come back this season. Maybe some people, there it is. Chris B. Haynes, I'm going to take that as, yeah, he's not coming back, even though he finishes it with final decision has yet to be determined. I could see him not coming back if they make the playoffs and then he's back for the playoffs. I'm not sure if that would account for him making it back for the season itself. But because of where the Celtics are,

like the initial thought was, hey, if they're the seven or eight seed, and then Tatum comes back and kind of pushes them into the playoffs without the playing game, then maybe he's back. I know Tony Diggs agrees with Chris B. Haynes, but from the horse's math

was if and when was his quote. I mean, if, he said if, so. Well, you know, I think it's a lot of stress. I don't think it's 100%. Remember Aaron Rogers is going to come back if the Jets were in on it. Jets were never going to be in. No.

Did you hear what happened with the Jets over there, allegedly? What's the coaching situation? What's going on? Well, allegedly, there was a potential hire and then a plane trip, and then, hey, it ain't going to be like you think it's going to be. Well, I ain't doing that. I'll get the hell out. So Aaron Glenn, the way he operates is certainly in a fashion of which it is fascinating.

Yeah, it's a fashion. He should enjoy this year. Aaron Glenn? Yeah, because he's going to get fucking fired after this year. here. So he should enjoy it. So we're all in. What happened here, Bruce? So Bruce is on, as people know, this particular program, whenever you get a microphone or

you get into building, there are certain narratives that you're certainly trying to push, you know? There are certain narratives that you're trying to push. Bruce's big one is, yeah, the Giants haven't been great. We're about to be good, but we're nowhere near the ass level of the New York Jets. Let's make sure we remember that. So I do get a lot of reminders from Bruce about, hey, remember

the Jets. Hey, the Jets just did this new thing that's terrible. Let's go ahead and remember that. This one with Wink, seemingly I did not notice, but this does feel like a pretty big defining moment of what Aaron Glenn and his entire operation over there with the Jets is. What exactly happened, Bruce? Yeah, I would say that I'm exposed to the Jets a lot. I hear a lot of Jets talk, a lot of Jets scuttle, but really the Aaron Glenn thing, he's been like, you know, you got to trust me, you got to trust the process while we lose all these games. And then, yeah, this is the latest Wink Martindale

flies up to Floral Park. He's calling his staff, he's saying, hey, look, we're back in the NFL. We're going to go run the Jets defense. He gets all the way there. And then Aaron Glenn says, no, actually, I'm calling the defensive plays. You're just going to be, you know, defensive coordinator in name sort of helping scheme it up and all and everything like that. So Wink says, fuck that. I'm out of here. He bails. And now they got a new young DC who will not be calling plays. Aaron Glenn will be calling plays. But really the, the overall narrative is he's doing this whole, trust me. We're building. We're building. Trust the process type thing. But they fired nine coaches. He had an O.C. He was keeping his O.C. They bring in Frank Reich or close to

bringing in Frank Reich as sort of that senior offensive consultant, new O.C. But we're keeping our OC. Then they fire that O.C. Or he says, screw this. I'm out of here. So it's all a big mess. New York is not happy about it. It's that and the New York Rangers can't win a ball game or a hockey game, rather. Oh, the Rangers stink? That's crazy. They're absolutely horrible. Well, what about the breadman? The breadman's not doing? What about the big Eiffle? They're actually sitting the breadmen They're getting ready to trade them Panini

People are saying he's coming to Boston There are rumblings of the bread man And the pasta man Little pasta and bread dinner who wants us? Oh, carbs on carbs on carbs Boom Oh my God, that's a good time So the jets suck

They fired basically everyone off I mean it sounds like communication issue with me Yeah Aaron you're saying Yeah because Aaron Glenn has Aaron Rogers Fly from California All the way over there and Aaron has internet in his phone in the plane I think could have been told at any moment

like hey waste of gas waste of time waste of energy Aaron gets in there sits down five minutes I want you okay it's over all right I'm gonna get out of here then I'm gonna leave and I'm done with the jets wink flies in

I'm gonna be DC lands gets all the way there I don't you that's an interesting thing to happen in the NFL age that's an interesting thing to happen especially like you don't bring in Martindale to be your DC that doesn't call the defense. Like we all, I think we know that. Like that's not going to work. So the fact that there had the miscommunication before he got there, like that could have just been, that could have been a couple texts. Like Aaron going,

hey, wait, just let you know, buddy. I'm calling the defense. Okay, cool. And he sends him a big, you know, flicker off a moat, you know, middle finger emoji or something. I thought it would be a thumbs up. Like, thanks for telling me before I hop on his plane and fly all the way over there. Well, maybe both. Maybe thumbs up and then middle finger. Like, Okay, cool. I appreciate you getting me before I get there, but also, no, not doing it. Fascinating stuff over there for the Jets. Yeah, they think they're lucky stars anytime something comes out about the bronze. Because the bronze take the kind of the brunt of, hey, this is the worst franchise in the NFL.

But the Jets are sitting dead red as the biggest shit show. Not to mention they have four first round picks over the first two years. So Aaron Glenn and his guy, Mugi, Bougie, whatever, he sucks to. Those two are going to make the two of the picks. year and then someone else is going to make two of the picks next year. They'll get it right though. They'll get them right. They'll get them right. Which I do believe. Justin Fields.

Everybody forgets about that. They got these picks. They'll be able to make the right decision. They'll be able to figure it out. It's like they've already made a quarterback decision. This last offseason they did. They paid Justin Fields like $40 million. They gave him a lot of money. They made a decision on a quarterback already. It obviously did not work. The owner came out in middle of season.

It was like, we fucking can't play football on the offenses. Have you seen this guy? You can't complete a pass. How the fuck's that work? I have no idea. I wish I could create some sort of shot to give him that he can complete a fucking fast. I can't.

That's what Johnson and Johnson. He literally came out and said that. It's like that was quarterback. They picked, though, and paid him much more than everybody else was willing to pay him. So they've already made a decision of quarterback. It has failed. Nine coaches gone.

Okay, who picked the coaches? So you made decisions there too. There's already been a lot of decisions that have already been made, but future decisions will be good. Maybe you learn from these. And apparently, and I apologize if my brain missed this, They made a very disrespectful offer to John Gruden to be on the team in some sort of fashion. What do you mean?

I don't. No, that was disrespectful. I guess John Gruden just got a call about coaching for the Jets. And he was like, I would rather hang myself from my thumbs than put on a Jets logo. He could do that too with how strong he is. I thought I saw a Portnoy tweet like that he knew what the offer was. And it was very disrespectful or something like that. Portnoy Patriots fan.

but certainly tight with Gruden. Yeah. So, I assume he did get a piece of information from Gruden that said, like, I wasn't going to do that, man. Yeah, right. Yeah. Who's going to give Gruden just the keys? Somebody's going to.

Somebody's going to. We had 10 openings. We still have a couple, I guess. That's who sure. Or college. Some AD that, some forward-thinking AD that wants to bring some juice to their college program. See, I thought he was going to be a guarantee for one of those gigs.

I did. I was pretty loud early. I was on college game day. like week six, I guess, after the James Franklin thing, like, who's gonna get hired? I'm like, John Gruden's, is John Gruden still giving speeches to all these college fucking teams and watching all the film?

And is he now become an internet sensation, basically, which isn't that a part of recruiting and everything? John Gruden feels like the guy who's gonna get a gig. Oh, really? John Gruden, a good one, okay. I think John Gruden's gonna get a gig. I really believed it. Still do.

When? Next year? Can we just say we're early? Yeah, I don't know. Not wrong just early. Man. Coaching with the Hula bowl? What do you coach?

The senior? We coach one of the bowl. Yeah, they won. Of course. Easily. Age, I don't know if you know the little wrestling voodoo doll is still here. Oh, where is he? Right.

Oh, no, it's so creepy. His arms up like that. Yeah. It's, I don't know if that's a lot, if that's where he's going to live. Should have put him in the chair today if no one's in there. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It was. What's the name? What is his name? He has no name. Hawkeye Wrestling Club? HWC? Sure.

Slenderman. We call them the IWC for Iowa Wrestling Club. No, we're not going to do that. I know what that stands for. No, the IWC. No, no, no, no. We're not going to fucking do that

because I know what that stands for. And I did not want that connotation associated with anything that has to do with Iowa wrestling or Iowa athletics. What are you talking about? Explain a little bit from it. You're talking about the internet wrestling community,

which, you know, Bone is basically like the fucking president and CEO. Oh, no, we know who the Lord is. Well, we do. But all I'm saying is I don't want that associated with this in any regard, any shape, or form. They're a passionate bunch. Sure. That ain't his fucking name.

You know what? He can just call him fucking Gable or D.G. What about MC Hunk? I don't hate that. Oh, I got it. I don't hate that at all. Yeah, maybe. Magnet Chick-Hung

There's a chance That's a Royal Rumble AJ you have any early predictions On who's going to win a Maybe Logan. Logan looks good He does Logan looks really good on here You're right

Logan looks jacked He seems to be very confident right now And feeling pretty good about where he's at physically and mentally So I don't know how you don't He won't take on CM Punk Is CM Punk in the Rumble? Is that him I see that in the middle?

CM Punk's champ right So I don't have Probably not because don't you win the Rumble to get the rump is chancel. Punk is champion. In what world? That W.W.E. Universe is the champion. That's so gross, dude.

What are you? You don't want these hands, bitch. We just watched the 99 and 01 rumbles yesterday. We did in their entirety. And you see those guys and then you see all the goats. Then you see punk. Scottie too hot.

Steve Blackman. Yeah. The oddities. Big boss man. I mean, you start naming off the names, it's everybody. And obviously Stonecold Steve Austin. And that 1999 one, you would have never guess who won that at the end.

A guy went to the hospital. Stone Cold Steve Austin went to the hospital after the Royal Rumble began because he got clipped in a bathroom as he was chasing Vince McMahon into the bathroom. And he ended up getting in an ambulance, getting wheeled out of there. He comes back to return.

He almost wins it. Crazy. Almost wins the whole thing. But the hospital came back? Yeah. Drove the ambulance back. Had a bounty on his head. That's in the middle of the rumble.

And then obviously he's about to take Vince out. Vince McMahon's one of the last. Vince McMahon was second or first entrant. Him and Stone Cold just beat hell of each other. They leave. They go into the arena. It was a trap. Vince McMahon took Stone Cold right into a bathroom.

He goes to the hospital. Vince comes back later. It gets in a room. It's just him. Holy hell Vince McMahon won the Royal Rumble. I was never obviously eliminated. What do you think this is? Well, ambulance comes.

he goes in there. He's about to kick some wholesale ass. Guess who comes out? Who? Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson comes out. He's, guess what? Corporate Salad. He starts jostling with Stone Cold on the outside. And he says, Vince flips him. Vince McMahon wins. The 1999 Royal Rumble. We watched that yesterday in its entirety. And I'll tell you what, there's some good shit in there. There's some good spots in there. There's some good spots in there, dude. Al Snow came out, started fucking wheeling. I mean, it was...

Does everybody want it? Head! Do you remember that? What does everybody need? Hey! Those are the days. I just need to know the writing room. Because I watched the,

whatever, what's the car again? Unscripted, the Netflix show that you are in this business. There was no writing back then. They just rasseled. Yeah. Exactly. If they had a writing room, though, and Vince said, here we go.

How about Roble Champion? And he just points straight. Me. There was no writing room until. You think anyone said no? You think anyone's like, Vince, I don't know. What is? You think anyone had any push me?

And then Stone goes, well, all right. Well, who you kicking out last, kid? You. All right. A big good business, kid. We're going to send you to the hospital in the middle of this thing. Jesus. Just all of it.

As you start watching it come together. Fire extinguishers. Oh, early. I mean, there's a lot of misses, obviously, whenever you're doing weekly episodic television, and you have to fill and fill and figure things out. But they were not scared to take some switzerland. wings. They were not scared.

Rarely missed. What was, uh, what's Bloom's name? Prince Albert. Okay. Yeah, sure. Who, who is that? Yeah, exactly. They're so creative. You'll get it. He was a large man with a bald head and he had piercings on his head. So, what a great name.

Yeah, it was Prince Albert. He, uh, what a good time in wrestling. Exactly. Dude, you should see this, we watched it. It was a trip. I was 12 years old then. And obviously, that's when I got that time is when I was introduced to it all. and you're just watching it's like man this was a completely different experience from anything else that had to be on television and it captivated the world yeah I still remember like hat like I could you know when it was like countdown it's like oh baby here comes take like I still remember

when they were fucking coming out of 2001 Kane was a bra yeah red machine Drew Carey like I can still remember Drew Carey yeah oh you eliminated the Hardys without even touching them The guy's taking pictures for the soccer team Cleveland Rocks, yeah, prices right. Yeah. Yeah, he eliminated the Hardee's without even touching them.

Yep. And then here comes the big red machine. Kane comes out. Drew Carey tries to throw him a couple dollars. Hey, don't do it. Obviously, you know, he almost gets chokeslammed. Don. Yep.

Outcomes take. And then Drew Carey's like, you know what? I don't want any part of this. And he eliminates himself. So then Taker and Kane staring each other down. Raising hell. About to get after it. His brothers of destruction here.

Okay. A-da-a. This is a badass undertaking. not Emo Undertaker. I mean, it's a real problem. Kane strapped up. And then that clock, five, four, three, two, one. Scotty too hard.

He walks down. Great hair. And they just fucking plant him through the ring five times. Beat the shit out of him real quick. And run the fuck out. Just the thought of it all, how it comes together after we watch Unreal. It's like, wow, we some good ideas. A lot of ideas.

is what's the Royal Rumble going to be? Who's going to come out of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, with an opportunity at a title of WrestleMania? Who's going to have all the cards after the men's and women's royal rumbles? Tomorrow, 2 p.m. Eastern on ESPN's platform. Is that Pantos? He's all... Saturday, 2 p.m. Eastern on ESPN's platform.

What is it? ESPN, what? Unlimited. believe. I don't know if we've got it right one time. This thing will be available on Disney Plus? That I don't know. I think it will be. This thing will be available on ESPN Plus. See, I think that's where it gets a little bit tricky. Because I think if you have ESPN Plus, that's not going to qualify you for the Rumble. You got to have ESPN Plus, and then there's also two kind of subdivisions of ESPN Plus. ESPN Unlimited is kind of the all-encompassing package, which I believe is what you need to have in order to watch the room.

And there's like ESPN Special Unlimited, which is even higher than unlimited. What do I get access to a turnbuckle? Yeah. Turnbuckle cam. I mean, shit, you might be able to email Bob Iger with that unlimited. Yeah, unlimited pulse. I just know the Australian Open fans

have been fucking pissed about how this whole gimmick works. So I'm thinking that there might be some obstacles to find where this is. A thousand percent. Yeah. Anytime something goes to a new platform. For instance, Paramount just announced that they got million new subscribers from the UFC thing.

That'd be a success. I think that would be considered a success. But to my surprise, it wasn't that difficult to get on Paramount. Now, I couldn't find it. I'd go through Prime to get to it. But once I found it, I got on it. It's like, okay, they clearly have to work some things out here. They're going to have to figure it out.

But getting to it, I was able to find it. I think with this ESPN thing, ESPN... Unlimited. I think people are having a tough time finding it. I think they don't know exactly where they are if they qualify for it or not. and wrestling people are not going to be pumped if the Royal Rumble coverage is impossible to find.

I think that is a potential issue, but that's always new platform stuff. It's always. Yeah, but when the YouTube TV ESPN dispute was happening and you had to have the ESPN Unlimited or whatever to watch football games, it was very, very hard. But I just looked it up. You can watch it on ESPN Plus Unlimited,

which is part of the Disney Plus Hulu and ESPN Plus bundle, but is not on the standard Disney Plus content. library, which all makes sense. So you just need to put it on. Okay, we don't have any... So I have ESPN Plus and all that. I go on that app and then I've got to go and like...

I get upcharged to get unlimited, I guess. I probably don't have that. Maybe I do. I don't know. Yeah, but shouldn't this just be an easy thing that pops up and says, hey, this is what it's going to take to get this. Just click here, yeah? Get rid of the fucking options.

We don't need three separate things. Hey, this is the price it costs. You pay this. You get everything on here. John Taffer. Well, some of the menus have too many options. Just let us know what we need. Hey, are you a WWE person?

Boom, this is what you're going to need, whether you like it or not. Okay, if you don't like it, cool, but at least you know this is where it's at, as opposed to, oh, I got to do this now. I got to do this now. Because everybody hates having a match QR code, do the entire thing. Yeah. And people resent it. You know, they resent the entire operation because they think to themselves,

oh, you guys should have this figured out. You guys should have this figured out. Very big entities. So hopefully that doesn't happen with the Royal Rumble. So it's on ESPN Unlimited. Yeah. Is it? I mean, I would, that would be my assumption is that it's on ESPN Unlimited.

See, we should know this. But also on that note, new streaming platform, we're going to have to work. What's the graphics say? What's the graphics say? What's the graphics say? The E there, I think is the thing, but it doesn't say the... When I see ESPN, I think like, okay, I can go to, if you're an old-school person, you have, like, a channel guy to go to ESPN, boom, it's there.

Yeah, good luck with that. I think it'll work. Oh, whoa, let's make sure we... we'll find it it's a Royal Rumble you're going to want to see it also long matches so if you get into a little bit

of a trying to figure out how to get it don't give up it's still on the other side okay it's still on the other side I thought what Paramount did after the fights clipped from the fights

individual fights individual fights recaps of the fights all free which is good because it used to not have that once you got to the fights the product was really good

I've also never had their app I just like Connor said and kind of like you do with Amazon like I just bought it through Apple TV. So it's just like the Apple TV interface and it's great on there.

But I had to download the app to watch the fights. And like, I was like, oh shit, this app is terrific. Pretty easy. Yeah. I live on the Paramount Bless. And they got a lot of shit. A lot. That's the other big thing.

It's like, yeah, you're paying for that. But like their movie library is huge. Top Gun. A bunch of TV shows. All the shows. Tulsa King. Mission Impossible. They got a bunch of kids TV shows.

Landman. Because it's got like all. the Nickelodeon stuff too. Feels like they're doing what Netflix did there a few years back where they're spending a lot of money on content and they're including live sports into that. Because they have CBS too. So if you have to, if you're in an area

where you can't get to, like, you could, you can watch, you could have watched the playoff games through Paramount Plus. And now Paramount Plus still has to do some tinkering with the UFC. Like they're still going to have to figure it out. So ESPN, obviously, it's going to be another opportunity to figure out the WWE relationship and the new platform. Because WWE used to have its own network.

Then they saw their network to Peacock and then WW Networks on Peacock. Then they go to Netflix. And then now, so it's like there's always some sort of transition that happens when these business decisions are made. Because obviously, WWE brings a very passionate fan base and a lot of content available. But the transition to new streaming platforms is always something in every sport. Football, it happens. UFC, it happens. Wrestling it happens. And it's like, it's not always on the user side.

No. No, yeah. Usually it's on like, hey, you guys got to figure this out a little bit. Hopefully they have that ready for the Royal Rumble because it's going to be. spectacular on Saturday. All right. Let's get to hell out of here, boys. We're back tomorrow for a nice, feel-good Friday.

It's Super Bowl season age. Let's go, baby. I can't wait. I saw a glimmer of the little guy, the little tiny guy, and that white shot. It is very creepy. If I think sharks showing up tomorrow and has different holes cut into it,

then you send Bill out of there. All right, be a friend, tell a friend, something nice of my change their life. We're in this thing together. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three, team.

Good night.