The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1503 - Live from the Lahd Hahse for the NFL Combine, Mat Ishbia, Joe Hortiz, Jim Harbaugh, Mike McDaniel, Jesse Minter, John Schneider, Robert Saleh & Mike Borgonzi

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are LIVE from the Lahd Hahse, Lucas Oil Stadium for NFL Combine. In the first hour, we take a look back at the Winner Olympics, highlighting the American Gold Medal Winners in Milan. Our first guest is Owner of the Phoenix Suns, CEO & Founder of United Wholesale Mortgage, Mat Ishbia to discuss him balling out in the NBA Celebrity All-Star game, his recent criticism of the NBA’s tanking problem, his time at Michigan State, and more. Also in the first hour, we are joined by Chargers GM Joe Hortiz, Head Coach Jim Harbaugh, and new OC Mike McDaniel, to talk about how their new offense will take shape, how they will attack having the league’s third most cap space, and more. In the second hour, we are joined by new Baltimore Ravens Head Coach Jesse Minter to talk about coaching Lamar Jackson & Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Linderbaum’s free agency, and more. 2x Super BowlChampion General Manager of the Seattle Seahawks joins us in the third hour to recap what made this year’s Seahawks team so special, what went into moving on from Pete Carroll, and more. To close things out, Titans General Manager Mike Borgonzi and new Head Coach Robert Saleh drop by to talk about the bright future building around Cam Ward, what went wrong for Saleh in New York, the baldness of their coaching staff, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We will be back LIVE from the Lahd Hahse tomorrow and Friday. Appreciate the hell out of all of you. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Hey, welcome to the Loud House, Lucas Oil Stadium. For the 2026 NFL Combine, this program begins now. The greatest of all time, and we are so incredibly thankful that we are back on microphones chit-chatting about the next voyage to the top of Lombardy Mountain. We are here at Lucas Oil Stadium in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana. For the 39th consecutive time, the home of the NFL Combine, There's going to be dudes wearing tights running really fast 40s, jumping really high.

There's going to be drills on the field that are going to showcase elite ability and skill. This is the largest sports interview that happens on earth. Dreams can come true here. Legacies can be defined. There's a lot of men that show up at this Lucas Oil Stadium with just a hope and a dream. Maybe they've been overlooked. Maybe they go to a smaller school. Maybe nobody really knows exactly who they are.

And then boom, 4-3-40, bang, 42-inch vertical. And all of a sudden, we're talking about a first-round pick. We're talking about a family changing forever, a family tree becoming much more profitable. That is what's happening here in Indianapolis, Indiana, on that field. And in some of these meetings, but in this city here, oh, there's a lot of backdoor handshaking. Every agent that represents every player, every coach, every team, every owner, every business, every marketing are shaking hands. There's a couple cocktails happening around the city. The entire league is here, except for a couple coaches.

Huh. Huh. Not working. That's how it could be described, or it could be described as it has become such a spectacular event that the coverage of the on-field drills are so spectacular. So as long as your general manager, your front office, your scouting department is here, there's magic to be made, but also free agencies right around the corner. Deals are getting done over a couple cocktails.

There's a lot of magic taking place, and this week we'll have so many people on this particular program. There'll be workouts Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And on this particular program, we have people flying in. Today, owner of the Phoenix Suns, Matt Ishbia will be here. He was loud on Twitter a little bit ago, and in the Celebrity NBA All-Star game, he was spectacular. Joe Hortez, General Manager of the Los Angeles Chargers will stop by. Jim Harbaugh, head coach will be alongside of him. New Head Coach, the Baltimore Ravens from the Chargers.

Jesse Minter will join us. John Schneider, Seattle Seahawks, General Manager, who has bought two. Brought and bought two Super Bowls winning programs to Seattle. And then Bob Sala, the new head coach of the Tennessee Titans. We'll stop by. This will be his first time on our program. I feel like I've watched a lot of him with hard knocks and Aaron over there with the jets and how it's all gone. We've seen him on a sideline jacked up. Now he's in the AFC South. Cannot cannot wait to catch up with him. We are so thankful that we get to do this for a living. We have missed the hell out of you. Ty Schmidt will be back on Friday, I believe, still at home. Darius Butler will be back in March enjoying the hell out of his family down there in Florida. The boys that are joining me here are a great group. Today's talks with table is represented by at Boston Connor and at Tone. digs con man the combine kicks off the next search the next journey the next mecca pilgrimage to the top of lombardy mountain how many days away are we from the nfl season yeah 197 days away from the

twenty 26 NFL season and you're right i mean this was it last year for the patriots as a patriotist fan last year with the fourth overall pick this is where it starts this year coming into it with the 31st overall pick we're a couple doors down from the philadelphia eagles maybe they maybe they go behind the scenes make some of those handshake deals you're tied about but if you're a team that isn't good. This is where it starts. This is where the hope kind of kicks off again. Look at that right there. Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants, in the top five. If you are a fan of one of those teams, you're looking at this weekend is, hey, this is where we build the foundation for the Super Bowl run next year.

And obviously, free agencies around the corner. There's some teams who have a lot more money than other teams. There's teams that are maybe a little cap-strapped. They're going to have to utilize these young guys. Any team that wins a Super Bowl is going to have rookies that are performing. Now, not every rookie will be performing and throwing and everything like that. We understand that that's become a new very very very very. very expected norm for the top. But there's not a lot of people that have separated themselves in a lot of different positions. There's a lot of things to be had here,

tone digs. What are they saying about this particular draft? Yeah, there's a ton. And you talk about people working out, not working out. Obviously, Mendoza, who's probably going to go number one to the Raiders, it'd be a shock if he did not. He is not going to throw. But Ty Simpson, the number two quarterback will throw. This is going to be a huge, huge combine for him.

But then you talk about, like, what people think are the loaded positions in this draft. It's wide receiver. You got Mackay Lemon, you got Carnell Tate, Jordan, Tyson, and Denzel Boston. They're all probably first round guys. The edges, you got Bain, Mesidor, David Bailey,

Arvel Reese, Cassius. That's not his name, Tony. Oh, Val Reese. Sorry, that happened this morning. That's on me. Those are all supposed to be first round guys. So wide receiver edge is loaded, and then they're saying it's really, really deep for DB

and off ball linebacker, which, you know, our good friend started and studded at. Yeah, no doubt. Ladies and gentlemen, also here, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Roder Cup winner. Amanda was the number five overall pick in the draft pre-Pree CBA. Got paid a lot of money, played a lot of ball.

Begain the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, had a 40-plus-inch vert, a 4-440, and weighed in at 475 pounds. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker. Hawker, your thoughts on the Columbine as we come back here. Obviously, I was not invited to the Combine. Shout out the NFL scout. Which is wild. What the hell?

Yeah, shout out, shout out, shout out. Didn't get invited. Was in a senior bowl? No big deal. But every time I come here, I learn about something new. that's happening. Like we were walking back around the suites here where we kind of have a set up shout out to ESPN, shout to Foss shout to barcode shout to everybody that has made this happen obviously. And the fact that this has not been covered like this for a long time

is absolutely outrageous. But while we were talking up there behind the suites and walking, we were looking overhead. There was law players down there with different scouting departments and coaches. They're showing them film. They're calling on plays. And then like there's a chance two days from now. That same scout comes up and says, hey, what was that play that I told you there? It's a constant mind game. trying to learn who people are. Is that what you experience when you hear? And is that what you think this combine actually is? Yeah, I think it's the ultimate job interview that you have to show your physical skills on

the field, bench press, all the different things. And then the mental side, I think, is even a bigger component that a lot of people don't talk about. You hear people say, hey, oh, those meetings are going to be big. And some of these people are only in town Monday through Wednesday, Monday through Thursday, because they want to get in the room and one-on-one with these guys and see, you know, what they know about ball. And like Pat said, they might install a couple blitzes or something if you're a defensive guy and then come back to you maybe tomorrow or six, seven hours later. Hey, draw this up for me.

Remember I told you that, you know, field Miami, whatever blitz that we might have had. And I want you to recall that drawing up. Oh, and then by the way, give me your three favorite blitzes that you ran this year in college. Like I had stuff like that coming at me the whole time was at the combo. So it's a lot of football IQ stuff. Also, who are you? Everybody's looking for dogs. Do you love ball? That's what the good ones. I ask every GM, any coach, anyone, they say, I want to know if this guy loves ball. And I will ask every person in their life and try to figure it out before we take a draft pick on somebody, do you love football or do you love what football brings you?

Now, obviously, especially in the first round, because they're a business and they're making a multi-million dollar investment if it's a first round pick, especially if it's a top five pick. It's a huge investment. There's a lot more. But guys, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, they can do a lot for themselves here in the meetings, in the conversations, in the recall,

where they can all showcase it. This is a special time, special place. And we'll be, I think there's going to be a lot of people stopping by for conversation. We want to make some news here. Might do a little journalist. I mean, there's a chance. I will say, I was a little bummed out at the end of our break. Obviously, loved hanging out with McKenzie and my wife and getting a chance to get away and not have to chit-chat, you know, for four hours live every single day, even though that is a dream come true to be able to do that.

The break was a little long. Got the Disney World with the baby girl. That looked awesome. Love that. I saw the guy with the bells. Yeah, enjoy. Weapon over there in Germany. You know, stopped by Epcot, one over to Germany, did that.

Baby Girl is about, I think, like, next year's trip, she'll be perfect. If that makes sense. She's like two and a half right now. So I think whenever she's three and a half, it'll be like the perfect thing. So we had a lot of great times. It's great to see her. Her and I get into Connect every single day, the amount of time. It's amazing.

It's beautiful. But there are so many things happening in sports where all I kept trying to do is just like, I would like to talk about this. But then, you know, it's like, well, also got to relax because we've got a long haul coming up in the off season. I would like to say, thank you so much to the Winter Olympics. Thank you so much to the Winter Olympics. NBC, I thought you did a fantastic job.

I thought the coverage was remarkable. I appreciated the fact that we could spend literally all day watching these sports that we had never seen before. Now, I would like to say that if we know the sport exists here in America, we win it. Yep. Okay, and I would like there to be a little bit more of a spotlight on these sports that I don't think many Americans will ever sign up to do.

That guy sprinted up a mountain. They did. Okay, six-minute mile. Nuke. Up a mile. We're never going to have. On skis. On ski.

We're never going to have a kid. This is an option. Basketball is an option. Normal running. Yeah, running on ground. So many things are available. In some of these countries, this is like we go outside. We have a kick and we sprint up a mountain.

So I think some of these sports we have no chance at, but I love the way we competed. I love the way the United States was representing in some things that I've never seen before. I liked that in the mixed co-ed curling, we meddled for the first time. I liked that the bobsled was getting exciting and had some magical stories. I like that our team figure skaters do well. The team, yeah. I hated what happened to Quad God. God, I hated what happened to Quad God.

Quad God almost turned me off from the entire Olympics. Quad God almost made me lose faith in the United States of America's team. I should not have done that. I should have maintained, which I did. And I would like tell I'll you, the Quad God, you're wearing merch walking into a thing. You lose. It's going to be loud. I couldn't imagine the demons in between the years right now.

Next Olympics is all yours, Quad God. All yours. Let's look back on a couple of the Winter Olympics. We piece together some of our favorite moments that we got a chance. And we'd actually just like to take a documented, recorded time and pay tribute to the United States athletes that worked their asses off to win for us. Let's go to Alex Ferreira. I watch this one live in person. Gold medal men skiing halfpike.

This dude stomped it out. I will say the skiers on the half pipes at a higher clip we're having much more. successful runs. They were flying around. This guy, Ferreira, Ferda Gold, they had a sign. I loved everything about it. He did. Shout to America on the skis. And also, whenever they just like kind of slingshot themselves up in that thing where they're like, do, too, pay. And they just don't even look and they're doing a flipping thing. And then they stomp it out. The skiers almost send it more than, and then not alone the, they swan. The alpine jumpers. Oh, my God. I would like, I think skiing and Lindsey Vaugh?

Yeah, shout out. Hey. Wow. What a warrior. Legend. She did it. Absolute dog. Everybody was telling her.

No way. Can't be out there. You should not be doing this. This is not what you should be doing. She said, yeah, right. Are you kidding me? Then you learn about everything happening in her life around everything that's taken place. Her going out there and then literally having to get choppered off the mountain.

It's like going out on your shield there, Lindsay. That was awesome. That's an absolute dog. And thank you for everything you've done for the United States of America, Lindsey Vaughn. But the skiers really impressed me in the Winter Olympics. And then let's talk about a little bit of the figure skaters. Okay, let's talk.

Alyssa Lou, did you see this? I did not see much of her. What? Dog, come on, AJ. Tell me about it. So Alyssa Lou, I think whenever, if I read her story accurately, and by the way, it was an interesting time to not, you don't have to commit to understanding everything going on in the world.

So 3.8 million files get released. Okay, that's an interesting time to have a lot of. time to go on your phone. And then the Olympics are happening at the same time and you're kind of watching all this stuff. And Alyssa Liu's story, amazing. We're talking like a prodigy, 13, 14 year old prodigy, young, young.

Then she leaves the game. Then she comes back. She has this clear mind. She's obviously incredibly talented and she just takes over. Story is, allegedly, she was approached because her dad, I believe, from China to potentially go on to Team China. And her dad said, no, we live in America or whatever.

And then she gets a gold medal for us. She has moxie. She has swag. She's awesome. She was so happy and joyful while she was out there. It was a beautiful representation of competitive sport for the United States of America. Shout out to her. Battling adversity.

Coming back. Getting to the top and enjoying the entire thing. I loved watching Alyssa Lou. Yeah, she's a perfect example of what the Olympics are all about. Like you don't really know much about the person, Alyssa Lou, before the Olympics, figure skaters, sure. But then she goes out, dominates, and then she has that moment coming off the ice. Let's go as she's yelling and it gets picked up.

up on the hot mic and that felt like a great encapsulation of the figure skating in general. Like she crushed it and delivered. You mentioned kind of being a prodigy, that pressure in between the years, hey, I need to win gold or else, you know, I'm a huge kind of letdown to my country. You're on half an inch of a skate in any little sneeze movement, Ilya. Your entire four years buildup is ruined because of that and she delivered on every single fast. So much pressure. They're scary as hell, I would say. It is a scary.

As I'm watching, I get so nervous for him just because the amount of work that had to have gone in to get to that point. And then you just, and then maybe there's a judge from a country. Bingo, yeah. Speak. Can we talk about Mac, we mentioned the skiing. Yeah, you're right. Back forehand. I got screwed.

He did something. No one's ever done. In the history. And landed it perfectly. Anytime. If you do something, it's the first time ever and you land it perfectly, you win. You win. Goals.

Every single time. watch X games. I watch the Olympics. Every time. If you do it first, you win gold. But there just had to be a Norway judge. It had to be a Norway judge. Had to be some Norway son of a bitch. Didn't they win the most medals? Yeah, I think they did.

Oh, yeah. Well, I will say, though, it does feel like some of those countries are much more suited to win some of these things. Well, it's cold. I thought I do. They run uphill with their skis. They're proud of it. Okay, let's talk about, speaking of. Oh, let's talk about Michaela Schifering. Congratulations. Legend. American legend. Appreciate you. Michaela, going out there and getting another

one, I'll tell you the slalom's crazy. I mean, the amount of quads, I think, AJ. That's quads, core, and then your knees got to be phenomenal out there as well. Yeah, I've never seen. I've actually never really skied, so I don't even understand, but this looks absolutely impossible to me. And you talk about the pressure. We talk about this all the time.

When everything comes down to, like, one or two runs and you, like, I just don't get it. I don't understand how these people are able to compete at the highest level and able to actually stand up and live up to all that hype. It's just, it's unbelievable. And talk about amazing moments. How about the first gold medal in bobsled for our 41-year-old badass named Elena Myers-Taylor? What a story. I believe her whole family.

There's a lot behind this. She's been in bobsledding for a long time. Wins gold con man. Special story coming out of the Olympics. Yeah, so cool. I think it was her fifth total medal at the Olympics. So she's been in never gold. She's been chasing it.

You mentioned first ever for her. So that was cool. And then the moment with her son, her son, I believe, is deaf. I think she has another son who also is impaired. I think he has a handicap and is deaf. So, like, that story and just a moment of the family, like her crying, signing to her son, like Mommy won. That was, you know, I'm getting chills just talking about it right now.

It's just so cool. There's a lot of those moments while you're watching. And then let's talk about Jordan Stoles. He wins the 500 meter and a thousand meter gold medals for United States of America. He ends up with the most amount of golds, I believe, Tone. Yeah, he had won gold and set Olympic records in the 500 and the 1,000 Stoles he did, is what I call him. I'm sure everybody else calls him Stolzzi as well. And then the 1500, he got silver.

He was the most, quote-unquote, decorated Olympic athlete for the U.S. of this Olympics with the most medals for the U.S. this year. And story of the Olympics. Who owns hockey, though? Let's think about that. Who owns hockey now? No, the Swedes play. They do.

What do you think, Gumpy? And then there's obviously the Olympic athletes are, Russia, they play really good hockey. Did the Slovakia? They play good. They're good Finland. Oh, they're so, with cool names. Did the Czechs have a team, is sure?

They were there. They play hockey for sure. And then there's. There's one country that maybe had their best team to ever go onto the ice. That's a lot of people were saying. Of all the country's best team ever. And all they do is play hockey, right? And it's like, they're thinking every day.

You wake. Some Canadians actually turn their living. rooms into hockey rinks and just leave their doors open. washers and dryers. Canada, really good hockey. The best I say, very good hockey. You guys are, hey, Canada, really great at hockey.

Unbelievable. 58 times, they've won major tournaments. Congrats. Oh, okay. 508 times, boy. A ship painter from Canada dropping in with some stats. That's cool. What did, what have you done for me lately?

Oh, the USA. women's hockey team. Gold medal winner. Megan Keller. Hi. Hockey's our sport, says the U.S. women's hockey team. They've won it three times.

They're absolute monsters, beasts on the ice. We, I believe, going to be catching up with Megan Keller this week. We cannot wait to chat with her. That was fun to watch. Overtime. Especially with women's hockey.

Fast. Very fast. Obviously, the evolution of sports as a whole for the women. Flag football is about to be insane. And by the way, I'm getting to hear what the behind the scenes are. But women's hockey, our team, always fast, always intense. Every Olympics, it feels like women's hockey is a fun watch.

Us beating Canada in overtime. What a magical way to start the hockey dominant run that we had. Especially a goal like that. You can think of sometimes some of the game-winning goals that we've seen, like even Patty Kane, you know, sliding it through the legs against the Flyers to win the Stanley Cup. Sidney Crosby, that backhand. Cosby backhand, like kind of weird goals. Left her in her boots.

That was the filthiest goal. to win a game, let alone a gold medal? Like, that is a dream come true. And from a girl, that doesn't score as much. Like, if it's Hillary Knight, you think, okay, fine. That's the superstar. Megan Keller doing it, even cooler. And then, ladies and gentlemen, the talk of the town,

now there's a presidential medal of freedom winner. Hell yeah. That was on the team. The U.S. men beat the Canadian men in overtime in the Olympic gold medal game. And whenever you think about all the boys, the Cucks, the Hughes, you know, Austin Matthews,

He's his captain, and then Halle Buck standing on his head. It was a magical run. They should not have won that game. One goalie decided that we were going to win the gold medal. And then in overtime, it felt like the boys moxie really shined through. Some people didn't think Jack Hughes was tough because he's a little bit undersized. He's a goal score. He's from a family of hockey.

The natural thing to say is like, oh, he's not tough. He's small. Guy eats his tooth. Eats a tooth and a half while eating a stick. Then comes back in overtime. How are you doing? Keep it moving. Jackie Aces.

Jack Eichol was out there doing his thing. It was fun to learn about all these guys, but also watched the amount of pride that they had in beating Canada. Remember, these boys, these lads, have, like, lived in the league. Canada, Canada. I mean, our accent for hockey is a Canadian accent, because that is what hockey has always been known. In the Kachuk boys, the attitude in which they bring to it all,

I think the first time we talked to Matthew Kachuk, we mentioned, like, hey, got to beat Canada. And he's like, we got a team. We got a team. These boys have been gearing up for this. Johnny Goddrow. Yeah. Him being a part of that group that has been gearing up for this moment

and being a part of it. Special, man. I haven't felt like that watching a game. And I don't know how long. 8 a.m. game, I think they had 26 million whenever he scored or whatever it was. They had 27 million, I believe, for the 2 o'clock game in Vancouver. If that game would have been in the afternoon, two or four o'clock, I think we're touching like 40 there.

I think with how socially relevant it became at 5 a.m. West Coast start is a very, very. tough start for this entire thing. 26 million live in real time is crazy, but it generated and garnered so many emotions for me while I was watching because I know how hard these dudes have worked to do this. And I think, you know, it's been interesting dealing with the whole, you know, people not being happy

because the world in the country isn't going, how they feel the country should be going. And it's like sports are just so different. I don't know how to explain it or to get into people's minds. I tried to explain whenever I was getting attacked by everybody. You know, it's like when you grow up in a sport that has the international capabilities and plays against other countries, you're kind of taught like, hey, we are better than them. I was trying to play on the U.S. men's national team to beat the hell out of England because England owns soccer.

So whenever the national anthem is played before sports, athletes are thinking about our athletes that are made on this land are better than your athletes. We're bigger dogs than you. We're more talented than you are. There's not a lot of ways for countries to compete with other countries. And in sports, it's a big deal for our athletes who are naturally competitive people to have a sense of pride in where they come from, a sense of pride in who they're representing because there's not a lot of ways to show other countries you're better. War, okay?

Yep, that's one way. Which none of us want. Nope. Okay, nobody, I don't think anybody on Earth, I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that. I've been reading a lot. But on that note, it's like war exists, okay, hate that it does. hopefully we get to a time where there's none of it.

I think that would be incredible. But like sports are the way. Sports are really the way. So whenever these Olympics happen and America wins and these guys are drunk off of the emotions of being incredible and actually drunk as they're celebrating something that they work for, it's like I didn't really just just the expectation of what that men's team was supposed to do in the moment immediately after being in Canada on a phone call with the president of the United States

from some people to start. Like I didn't, I'm just like, come on, man. Like, these dudes just wanted to prove that our country creates better hockey players than your country does. Our country is grittier than your country is. Our country is better. That is what athletes do. That is why I think a lot more athletic people have a lot more pride in the fact of USA. And it's like, I don't understand the people that don't grow up in sports.

I don't think I fully understand what they are. But it's like, man, whenever you win for your, it's huge. And I love that the boys celebrated. And I did not want it. I knew that it would because the video. Sure. I knew that the video would inevitably get out, but I didn't want to be the person to do it.

As soon as I heard they were headed to 11 down there whenever it was in as I woke up and I was like, oh, got to buy the boys a drink. So then I did this from Notre Dame whenever they were in Europe. I've done this with other teams that win. If they tell the world like, hey, this is where we're going, my natural instinct is like, got to buy them a drink, got to do that. I had a lot of people in the comments that were, you know,

mad about the U.S. men's team saying, did you buy the U.S. women's? I would have. I don't know. If I would have heard about something, I don't let you know, I would have. I love when USA athletes showcase that we were the best in the world. I love everything about that. That is our world that we're from. So as soon as I hear about this, I get a chance to talk to the people down there. Gino, Harrison, Daniel, Cam from the U. I'm going to kind of plug the door together.

Just felt like the right play, felt like the right move. And it wasn't just, I felt legitimately as I was doing, like, this ain't from me. This is from America. Thank you for doing what you did, boys. and I'm happy they enjoyed the hell out of it. The one thing that we haven't mentioned that felt like the most American women's and men's,

they were both perfect on the power play. They didn't give up one power play goal the entire Olympics on both, including the five on three. Shout out Vinnie Trocheck, Pittsburgh legend, who I believe did get effed up that night. Yeah, they took that video off the internet. But that five on three, like, during that, that was the most, like, pride I've had

in a country team, a U.S. team in a long, long time. That was awesome. I was sweating it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, so I was riding with it. There's a long five on three. No, granted, I have been in the middle of a U.S. Canada political.

When? Sure. Four nations, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Four nations and elimination chamber. And then, you know, that's a W-WE event. Yep.

And then all of a sudden I'm dropped into a thing and it's like, oh, I didn't know it was like this right now. And then on that note, it's like, yeah, sports are supposed to be like this. This is what we're supposed to want to beat each other. Supposed to care. I mean, it felt like Sidney Crosby and he broke his leg out there. for that team. And he wanted to go out and play. It's like, we need more of that. I love everything about that. Okay, let's pivot away from the Olympics. Shout to NBC, by the way.

I think they're up 97% or something. Tariko. Yeah, they're up 97% versus the last winner Olympics. Congrats to them on that. And Tariko, yeah. Wow. Hey. He can do it all.

Toriko. Super Bowl to that. Unbelievable. There was like one night where I saw him bobble a stat in his head. And by that is just because I'm watching him talk. And then I see him go to say something. and then I saw him adjust. I saw him change in the middle of speaking,

just from watching him, you know? And he just says the smoothest. I'm like, oh, he didn't know where hell he was going right there. And he just won immediately to it. Talking about a sport he's never heard of before, but he had to do research on. He was phenomenal, honestly,

and his thing about sports bringing people together and inspiring people, that's what sports are all about. And we're lucky to talk about him. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who owns an NBA team, a man who is friend of the program, a man who showed out in his celebrity NBA All-Star game. If there was 10 of him on the court, everything would be entertaining.

Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the sons, Maddie. Hey, Matt. Brother! I see you. Appreciate you, dude. Yeah, absolutely. All right, buddy. Appreciate you, man.

See, I didn't know for now. How are we? Yeah. Because he's businessmen. It's good to go last. I get to see what everyone else does. But ball player at heart, you know? Yeah.

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. How are you, dude? Doing great, man. Doing great. You give me that up just a little bit. It's on your chin.

Gotcha. Now it's on your nose. Boom. I'm not a pro. I don't know. Hey, trying not to do as much media, trying to stay out of the tabloids, trying to stay out of the headlines.

But I'll tell you what, and your performance in that NBA All-Star game, Celebrity All-Star game, you got us through. We were off, obviously, so we were just trying to find things to pass the time. The Olympics helped us.

You and that All-Star game, bopping wood, okay, applying full pressure, and then having a shot over 7-foot-7 talk over while you're fading away. Unreal. Unbelievable performance out of you. I just need you to know that.

How long did you know you were going to play in that? And I know you played at Michigan State. I know you were on Michigan State. Is Tom Ezo still coaching you up for that Elstar game performance right there? Oh, man. Yeah, I had a great time. I knew for a couple months, but I knew if I didn't play the right way, coaches it would be calling me.

I'm still scared of that phone call. So I had a great time, competed, had some fun. Made a shot or two. Had a fun time. I think a lot of people found out, though, that you're a basketball guy. So obviously, we know you're a basketball guy. We know that you said, if I had to mop the floors to be able to be able to, on a team, I would do that. And then obviously

you're in the mortgage business with family, United Wholesome. Did you guys sell my mortgage? I think you sold my mortgage. We might have. We might have only sell the ones that we don't think are to pay us. Anyways, you've got a great business. I've experienced it. It's all the kicks. It's an incredible, yeah, this guy's giving away a lot

of money. Might be time to get out of that. He's saying some dumb, no, but obviously in the mortgage business, we assume dream as basketball guy is to own NBA team. How has it been? Because obviously it's been an interesting ride. You get Kevin Durant, you get Star Packed team, doesn't work out.

Now you've got no picks. Now you're back in it. All-Star game feels like you won over a little bit with maybe your fans, probably Phoenix Suns fans, probably pumped with the way you performed. How has it been living out this dream? It's exactly that. It's a dream. It's been the best thing ever.

Obviously, we went through some not great times when we got the team, but I got the women's team, the men's team. We're competing. I'm having the best time. I wasn't good enough to play in the NBA, but we'll own a team is unbelievable because now at 46, I can still be involved, be engaged, and it's awesome because you also get to deliver things

to the fans do cool shit. Like that's like stuff we just haven't been able to do and we can do stuff that other people don't do. Okay, so on that note, whenever a general manager gets hired in the NFL, we say the general manager

has always had a vision on what their team would look like. Then they get the job and what the old team is, there's no allegiance to, I'm trying to build this in my way. You, dream of NBA team, I would assume. Were you, okay, and this,

I don't want this to be a rude question, but owners meddling is always, like a thing. Like, hey, you're a basketball guy that played basketball. So I think we would want you to meddle potentially if you're an owner. But you guys didn't have success whenever you got over there so people were maybe saying this guy doesn't, how is that whole thing gone with your restraint maybe, your discipline or hands on, hands off? Like, how have you handled all that? Yeah, well, right when you buy the team, everyone says, oh, don't meddle, owners own the team, stay out of it, let the experts do their thing. And, you know, I thought, okay, let me give

some extra money. The team was already pretty good at that time. Let's put some luxury tax. Let's go, let's go for it. And didn't work. Now I kind of step back. I said, no, let's do it the right way. Let's build. Let's get toughness. Let's get grits. Let's get dogs. Let's get guys that I'm my whole life.

I'm all heart, no talent. I want to get heart and talent. But we want just talent. And we want guys that want to win, that want to compete every night. And so we're building it. And we're going to build it the right way. And hopefully we're going to compete. We're doing pretty well this year.

But we're going to keep getting better every day. Okay. Where you are right now, play-in area, I think, 7-8. Now, I've done some research on this, or research on this entire thing. I guess nobody in the NBA wants to be in a play-ins. own right now? Is that an accurate thing? Because, and you put a tweet out about it, but it's like the guys obviously at the top

of the league, they want to go win it all, it's great for the franchise, we're going to go for it, and also attract a lot of free agents and everything like that. And then if you're in the middle, you're not going to be a part of the lottery, so you're going to have to pick a, your guys' his draft is hilarious. It's like after pick eight, like at a guy, he's going to come over from Greece

maybe five years from now. So it is an interesting dynamic with how the league is, right, with where your team is. You have no picks, obviously, but being in the play zone is not necessarily a beneficial area. Like, how do you kind of talk about where the league is right now? Because you put a tweet out talking about how we can't be a tanking league, which it seems like you guys kind of are.

And if you do and you do it right, you benefit from it greatly. So how do you kind of view it all? It's an embarrassment. It's horrible. Like, my perspective is tanking is loser mentality. Like, I've never been around anyone. You show me someone that wants to lose or thinks about losing? Like, I'll show you a loser.

That's losers. That's not my stuff. And so I don't like losing. I don't want to ever talk about losing. We try to win. The draft works. If you don't win, you don't have a good team, you get a good pick. But if you purposely trade for players and then don't play them, trying to lose games.

Like, I think it's bad for the NBA. I think it's bad. I think Adam Silver knows it. Organizations know it. It's got to change. It will change. Okay. So Oklahoma City, I think, would be an example that people would say.

They tanked for a while, like openly. But it was small market, I think. So maybe nobody was paying attention as much. But then it ended up paying off. I mean, they hit, bang, bang, bang. And they're about to be a dime. dynasty. So how do you kind of fix that potential thing? Do you think that's a league overall situation that has to change? Like how do you think it's fixable or is it fixable? It's fixable.

And Adam Silver, to credit him, he knows it's a problem. He's going to fix it. I believe he'll fix it. But you can't have teams. Like, when you say they're tanking, it's one thing if you trade players and you're not a good team. And I'm not sure, I mean, Oklahoma City, if you correct me if I'm wrong, I think they have only one player with a drafted over number nine, Chet Holmgren on their team. Everyone else is later in the draft. And so let's not like, They built it. They built it. They did a good job.

Give them some credit. It's not they have the first pick three years in a row, and that's how they became a great team. And so I think purposely losing in anything is the loser mentality. I can't stand for it. I don't agree with it. And I think the other organizations realize it. But right now, the problem is the incentives are misaligned.

If you purposely lose, you get better players in the future. You have a better chance. And that's not how I was brought up. I respect. I respect that. Now, you've got a lot of teams right now trying to get down. It feels like the NBA. It's almost a,

like 20% of the league. Especially this year. It's a good draft. As you're watching, yeah, because the draft is so good. But if they end up benefiting from it, then the next team, the next year is like, well, we can pretend. It's an interesting, your guys' league is fascinating. Best athletes, you know, they're seven foot tall running around doing the entire thing.

It is a spectacle. It is incredible competition at its highest level. But it does feel like there's always some drama bullshit around your guys's league. Now, on that note, it is now NBA time. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, obviously yesterday it was a tough one for the sons. I don't know if you caught that one, Governor Isfiel, but Southlix put it on you. But regardless of that, what is kind of the main thing right now when it comes to, you know,

developing talent and also, you know, acquiring people? Because we talk about draft being important. Like, it feels as though the NBA as a whole, you know, with the luxury tax and acquiring players, you're almost discouraged because you go into that first second apron and then all of a sudden, you know, you owe a ton of money. And you've said this before. Fans don't want to hear owners talking about. owe and a bunch of money. Fans don't give a shit about that, which is, you know, a huge reason

we like you so much because you know that and that's the reality of it. But do you, does it feel as though the setup for team building does sometimes encourage, you know, getting more draft picks and getting, you know, a better draft position versus going out and spending money? Yeah, I mean, it's a combination now. It used to be a lot more free agency. Free agency is a little bit slower these days. And so it's changed with that. Draft is a big thing these days. But also player development and developing players and finding good. players. On our team, we've got some guys that people didn't have. Colin Gillespie,

he took him on a two-way. He's a great player. Now he's an NBA starter. You've got to develop players as well. So I think team building is definitely through the draft right now, and that's why people are tanking. That's why people are doing that because they think that's the only way. But there's multiple ways to win and succeed, and we're trying to prove that in Phoenix, and we're working on it. We've got ways to go.

You need to bop some wood. Everybody out there bopping wood like you were doing. How old are you? 46. You look good, dude. You look good. Yeah. Sean. Sean's had a tough out. Sean's had a tough day. We do.

We love Sean. We love Sean more anybody. But we got a call like it is. He was on Yonis' team. Fresh off of what happened with Yonis, the entire thing. That's a whole thing. Then he kind of gets bullied by his friend. Ishmi was running him out of bounds.

You know, it's not good. And I don't even think he broke anything big. Oh, no. Yeah, it was like a yogurt for lunch. Oh, for 10. Yeah, it was not good. Next year. Hey, Shams.

Next year. Sign up for the comeback. And also next year, Janus might want to leave. Ooh. I'm joking. I'm joking. AJ has a question for you, man. Yeah, I guess the NBA as a whole, I guess, where do you think it is?

We've seen different eras of the NBA. They say, okay, once Jordan and his old generation goes, no one's going to watch anymore, and Steph and LeBron and this whole. What do you see as the whole, like, the next five to ten years? And who do you think are some organizations right now doing things right, winning games the right way and kind of building up their team the way that you should? Yeah, I mean, I think the NBA is in great hands. Obviously there's a tanking thing we're talking about.

There's always an issue, as you point out, Pat. Always, yeah. There's always something. But you know what? The truth is the league is in a great place. It's a global game. People all around the world love it. They love the NBA.

They love the players. We got star players from all around the world. And it's going to continue to grow and develop. It's not perfect. Nothing's perfect. But we're going to keep getting it there. I feel great about where the NBA is right now. Even with some of those superstars you're talking about are retiring and moving on are going to be retiring.

But there's a lot of great young players from overseas and Americans. And it's awesome to see. You watch every game in the NBA right now? What are the storylines that we need to be. Let's act. Not us, obviously. We would never be like. But let's say.

others you're talking to people who have no clue what's going on in the NBA just other people what is yeah yeah not us not us we've been watching football for six months yeah people yeah people yeah people yeah people that have just been and then on a beach a little bit watching olympics crushing crushing NBA tape like us exactly but no no we're talking about other people yeah other people if they didn't know what was going on in the NBA Southics are still great okay sons are awesome so pister gorilla did the dunk anything what it's just it's it's it's playoff time now it's going towards the playoffs. There's teams, the West is really strong right now. The Celtics have been a great surprise team in the East. The Pistons are good in the East, but the West is really deep

and, you know, there's a lot of teams. It's really, you know, people going to, you don't think there's, oh, there's only one team that's going to win it early in the season. They said, OKC's dominating and there can be only, I think there's five to eight teams that can win an NBA championship right now? And, you know, it's going to see. We're going to see what happens in the playoffs. Okay, you got some injury issues, right? Yeah, right now we do. Everybody does, is that an NBA thing? Everyone has to deal with it. We've got to play through it. We've got guys that want to play and we'll get them out there. Okay, speaking of Dylan Brooks, I believe, was injured for you right now, right?

Yes. So the only way I know Dylan Brooks is because him and a little Braun James always getting. Oh, yeah. So now that I'm hearing the way you would like your team to be run, the Michigan State team, it seems like he was a perfect guy for you? Is that it? He was exactly what we wanted. We made the Kevin Durantree. We want a dog. Dylan Brooks defines everything I believe in work ethic, leadership.

He'll grind, he'll fist fight you, but he'll also make some shots. He does everything we want. We love Dylan. He's out for four to six weeks right now, but he'll be back before the playoffs, and he's our guy. Do you have a Do you have a playlist? Is this yours? Let him know. Hey,

T.I. Welcome back, by the way. It is absolute heat, T.I. It is. So, him doing a victory lap right now. Hey, T.I. Congratulations, by the way. Because I like my top.

It is our generation. So watching him kind of come back, we'll let him know is a fantastic thing. Okay, so we just watch you at the All-Star game. So you got to play again next year, right? We'll see. I'm hosting. Hoster games in Phoenix next year.

Yeah, so you have to play. I got to host you guys. I got to host everyone. They're going to have a heck of a time. It's going to be great. Okay, so what does that mean? Ownership, like, how much does the NBA run? How much do you implement?

Like, what is the kind of the, like, you're saying you're hosting the All-Star game? The league will tell you what's happening, or do you have any say in how can this? No, I have a say on how to make it great. You know, not the actual game part of it, like how they do East versus West or World versus U.S. But I have a say in how do we get great players in it? How do we make it a great event?

How to make a fan experience is phenomenal. We're going to make it an amazing event. Let's announce it right now what we're doing for the slam dunk contest. Yep. Let's do it. Let's do it. We can do it. All right.

Tell me what we're doing. You're going to put a million dollars up for the winner and then a million dollar donation to a charity of their choice. Done. For the slam dunk winner. Let's get the best guys in it. Let's make it awesome. Okay. And then the three-point shooting contest.

We're doing a million dollars to the winner, a million dollars in a charity. Hey, let's do it. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're in on it with. Let's do it. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Good negotiation right there. I might sell that deal to another company like you did with my mortgage, but. Let's do it. I would like to be involved too, though. I would like to make it big because I love the All-Star game is something that we have all loved.

You should be in it. No, I got it. Three-point contest. No, the All-Star game. No, the Dung Contest. You play. No, yeah, the Dung Contest. Yeah, I'll be in the dunk contest.

Give me that trampoline like the gorilla got. And we'll keep it moving. Okay, so a million dollars to the winner for the dunk contest with a million dollar donation. And then a million dollars to a three-point shooting contest with a million dollar donation. I'm in. Let's do it. Let's go. Boom.

Let's do this. Now, boys, we need you to want to win a million bucks for it. Do you have to run that by, do you have to run that by Adam Silver? I'm sure Silver will be supportive. Adam Silver's pointed out of a million. Adam Silver doing that. Adam, Adam. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, man.

Thank you for stopping by. We do this more. We do this more. I love it. Anytime. Okay, sick. We appreciate the hell of you. Before you get out of here, we need you to do something.

Oh, yeah. You see it. Fire that thing. You see it. It's $100,000. nation on the line here. All right. You're coming right over here, Matt.

You're going to stand on the platform? I'm trying to handheld on here. Careful. Hello, hello. Okay, yeah, come up here. Come up here. Yeah, don't bop wood and throw yourself out here. Okay, you will try to get this ball into that hole right there.

This is called the Combine Charity Cont Challenge. This is Combine Charity Challenge. Shout to Matt Conti of the Indianapolis Colts and Lucas Oil Stadium in Blue for having all these things available for us that we found out 35 minutes before the show started. This is what we'll do. You have three attempts at throwing that football. Watch it up here. Jesus. Jesus. Don't get hurt. His spatial awareness is really good.

Yeah. Careful. Bomp in one. Yeah. Step out of bounds there. But if you put one of the throws through that hole right there with an elevation difference, we would donate $100,000 to a charity of your choosing. You sound good? I love it. Let's do it. Can you throw football? I can. Where are you from originally? Birmingham, Michigan. Oh, so you love hockey?

It's good. I like basketball, football. What hockey's all right? Wait, how... Jeez. That's just... Oh, Foxy! Oh, Foxy! We'll talk about that. Holy shit. Mike Frable's walking in here. Okay, so don't get nervous because Mike Vrabel's back there. Obviously, the alpha of alphas.

Congrats to you, coach. You're the man. Matt Ishby, if you make this ball into that hole right there, we'll go. Hey, good to see you, Vraibs. Hey, owner of the sun, do you think he has a chance of making it? You have three throws. Matt, good luck. He's going to watch.

Oh, okay, okay. Here's second ball. Here's second ball. Here's second ball. Here's the right height there, man. Now, any adjustment that you would be looking to make here? It's decline, so I got to throw it down a little further. Oh, like a pitcher coming off a mound.

Maybe take a knee. Maybe take a knee. Braves is got you. Braves is telling him. Braves is telling him. Braves is telling you. It's like to blow it down, says Braves. We appreciate you, man.

You are the best, dude. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Matt. Good luck, man. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt. Hey, good coaching, Frabs. Good coach and Franks. We go, Braves.

A cock a coach. Thank you, coach. There you. You! Warm up. Oh, he's warm up. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to be joined by some of our favorite humans that exist on Earth, not just... Did I just drop out right there?

No, did you? Not sure. Oh, there was an accident truck. I just heard. There was a full accident. I think we're going to have to go down one more here, too. You guys might have to lap up. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, Tony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tom. Yeah. Yeah, smart. Yeah, just go. because I think we're being joined by OC as well. A lot of adjustment happening on the fly. Call it an audible.

Justin Herbert, obviously legend. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, maybe the most entertaining group in the NFL, no questions asked. General Manager, head coach, an offensive coordinator for the Chargers, Hortiz, Harbaugh, make Daniel. Wow.

Good to see you. How are you? This is great, Daniel. Good to see you, coach. What's up, coach? Coach. Good to see you. Good to see you.

Coach, how are you? Sunday Red. High five. Come on. Let me get one. Oh, Sunday. Okay. It's the second person I've ever seen where the other day.

Yeah. That's a good. That's good. That's good. What's your Sunday Red? Yeah, they're saying that's worth a billion or something. Hey, that's the first one I've seen in a while. Sunday Red.

Nah. Did you use that or you want to use this? Your world, literally. Your world. Anything you need? Boys. Hey. Thank you for telling us, guys.

Good to see you guys. Thank you. I recruited some friends. Yeah, I appreciate this. Thank you for stopping by. Okay, this is becoming an annual thing. I assume you guys are on your way out. Yes.

Okay, on field workouts, start tomorrow. All the interviews have already happened. How do you feel? All anybody's saying about you guys is if you get an offensive line, you're going to win a Super Bowl. What is the mindset coming into this entire meeting session for you guys? You know, yeah, we're looking at all positions. But, yeah, we definitely want to share up the offensive line.

We've got some holes there, Bradley retired. and got some free agents on the other line. So definitely got to add to it. But excited about the week. Excited to be with coach again. And obviously adding Mike to the mix, it's awesome, man. We're having a lot of fun. Let's talk about that.

What has been first couple weeks? Like, I saw you guys at a game together. You guys were sitting next to each other. I immediately pumped for your press conferences, describing him as an offensive wizard. He's one of my favorite things that happened this off season. How has the relationship gone? And how do you feel, coach, going into the combine here?

Great. You know, just really learning. I'm really just leaning in to how Mike sees the game. It's creative. It puts defenses in a conflict. And kind of like our players, there's just a lot of excitement to learn everything that Mike knows. And that's really the main thing I'm leaning into.

People keep asking me, like, you know, you're going to start wearing the kind of shoes that he was. Or the cool, the cool. I wouldn't dress this way if my name was up there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, on the ring of honor. Maybe, maybe I'll go to the wardrobe. Oh, my God, you show it up to a game.

I'm leading into what he knows about football. That's what I'm most excited about. New OC, New DC here. How does that affect your life? You know, really good. Jesse Mentor, you know, credible coach. And Chris O'Leary, we just, We think we have, you know, just the great next, the next great coach.

Absolutely. So just say it like that. He's awesome. Let's talk about a great human. McDaniel, we love you as a human. You changed the game. Obviously, you came in with your quick shit and just flipped everybody's mindset whenever you did that. Hung 70 on that Denver.

I mean, there was a lot of that. How has it been now getting into offensive coordinator role as opposed to maybe having everything that head coach has? How has life been for you and how is the adjustment with Coach Harbao been going? Awesome. Really? Period. Awesome. No, you know, I couldn't ask for more. You know, I think, you know, it's just been awesome to join what they're trying to do.

There's a lot of overlap and belief. And, you know, we're coming to work every day enthused, trying to go chase the same outcome. So I'm invigorated. I'm juiced up. You know, I, I'm firmly aware that nobody, nobody has a better than us, and I'm living that way every day. Because it's often asked who, who does. Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, who, who?

Everybody's wondering. And I'll tell you what, you look around. Look at us right now. Nobody. Nobody, coach. Yeah, nobody. And possibly future us has a better. You're right.

No, that's a good, right. It's evolved. What does that mean? We got the chance for future us, Mike, and being here. Being here at the combine. We just don't feel like we're getting worse. We feel like we're going to get better. And, you know, that's a big reason for being here this week.

And, yeah, it's just one day closer to our next win. That's how I'm approaching every single day and get the most out of it. So, you know, that next win can come faster. Yeah, current us is having a good time. But, boy, future us. Yeah. Especially you guys. So last question for you here before I get to him trying to put pieces together for your offense.

Herbert, tell me about it. You know, he's a good punter. I don't know if you want to have him do that, maybe. Man, it didn't surprise me. No, you know, I think I look at a player that has shown he can do everything on the football field. And, you know, football is an 11-person game that, you know, there's a lot that coaches have to offer as well to help assist a play. I mean, I feel very fortunate to coach a player of his skill set and have high ambitions. And, you know, I think that meets him where he's at and for what he needs to do to take the next step in his career.

He's special to watch. He's so much fun to watch. I mean, he is so much fun to watch. Excited to see how that all comes together in your offensive vision. And on that note, Joe, how does that change your life with him being the offense coordinator? Like, obviously, offensive line is important in any offense, but is there, like, things that you have to look for now that he's the O.C. As opposed to maybe before, or you and Jim talk about because of the new defense, like how does that change your life?

Yeah, absolutely. You know, and I think the great thing about Mike is when he came in, the first night he was in there he was talking about he did things in Miami because that's who he had on the team. And so his adaptability and his creativity. So that gets you fired up. These guys are closers, by the way. They closed me fast.

Yeah. It was pretty cool. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah, the thought, though, that the last time we talked to you, you were sitting just at God the job, look cool. He looked so cool. He had such a cool thing on. You said, you've got to figure out what the next chess move is.

You know, we changed the game, then defense caught up is what you said. Now we've got to figure out what the next chess move is. I love that your queen's gambit on the sky, you know, tripping balls, seeing new, close Sicilian and kind of doing your thing. I cannot wait to see what you come up with, especially with what Herbert's able to do. AJ has a question. Yeah, Coach Arbro, for you first, I guess when you're interviewing these guys, we hear about the interviews you have with these potential.

draftees that you're talking to, I guess, what are you looking for? Do you care more about X's and O's than what they know about football, or do you care more like, hey, does this person love football? Do they love the game, I guess? How do you balance all that? Yeah, I mean, it first started just a respect I've had for Mike, his offenses, and we played him this year. I mean, he got us on a look that nobody had gotten us on yet and made us go back and

change what we were doing, just things like that. I love the emphasis on the run game, on the play action pass, just the ability to get first to outscore points. And thought we needed a fresh start and fresh start we got. And now we're, you know, we're. Our defense ahead, we talked about that a little bit. Defenses do feel like we've heard all, you know, they're playing too high and they're, you know, you can't get over the top. Why, I've always been taught as a young kid.

If they're playing too high, you've got to run them out of it. I got to be able to run the ball then. You got to be able to run the ball then. We're both cyclical. Yeah, but like where are we at, I guess, do you think, with like the scheme-wise, schematically? Is defense to defense take a little step forward these last couple years? I think they did. I think there was a lot of pre-snap movement that they've patternized and being able to, you know,

force offenses to earn it, you know, the percentages with which, you know, the shell, two-shell defenses, I think across the league is about 40% where it was about 25, like a handful of. years ago. And so they're doing a good job and there's ebbs and flows with that. It takes, you know, a couple teams that really take advantage of a light box to have success and then people to copy that and patternize that. You know, the game ebbs and flows. But I would say that the, you know, where the conversation, what, two years ago was that offense was ahead of defense. Yes. And that's what I want to ask you about. You talk about pre-snap movement. Should I, When we talk about what you did, is it the timing of your pre-stamp movement?

Like, what was your differentiator? You think that you kind of threw a big wrench into the entire system? Well, I think there are some really, really, really, really fast guys that defenses were going to try to reroute. So you found ways for them to struggle to reroute. And, you know, I think it's both, you know, messing with defense's rules. There's a lot of people that have to communicate at one time when one person motions. motions, you change the strength and three people are flipping around and stuff. You change the timing of that and you're, you know, to me, like we've said, you're adapting

to your players. And if you have an extreme skill set somewhere, it gives you an opportunity to kind of lean into other things that teams aren't ready for, then they prepare for it. Then you think the next thing. Man, I'm pumped to see what you do with Herbert. That's all I keep thinking about. He's like, what you're going to do with Herbert? His first play, okay, Tyrod Taylor got a golf tee shoved in his lung.

Okay, that's what happened, like five minutes before the game started. Just go out here. I can't breathe. Herbert, you're starting. First play, right? Down the sideline, runs a guy over. Right. Just full on, and then pops right back up, goes right in the huddle.

And I think football fans, the huddle, I assume, and everybody was like, oh, shit. This guy isn't just like a pretty boy from Oregon, because the question was, can he do it? I'm excited to see what you do with him. Now, on that note, 87 million in caps face right now? Yeah. Wow. Look at you. Wow.

So you're in the bars here? No, no, no, no, no. You're doing all the back door, free agency frenzy, tampering with it? We got some guys, we got to re-sign first, and then we're going to hit free agency, you know, so. You're definitely sending some text, though, huh? How are we feeling? Nope, nope. 87 million?

What's the second most? You got the second most? Yeah, people are sending you text for sure. Yeah, how much money you got for me? Third, third highest, third most. Good luck on that. I appreciate it. I'm excited to watch you kind of do that.

And for you, coach Harbaugh, how do you feel about the state of the hardball-led chargers? How do you kind of look back on it since you've got there to where you are now? You know, good, but the thing that not good is that we're not playing our best football at the end of the season in those playoffs. So, you know, just that focus, I mean, to, you know, that better and then best in the elimination games. What is the – do you already have the mantra or motto for the next season? Not yet, no. I mean, I always think it kind of come Al-Natural as...

Really? Okay, so you don't have like the three-wise? No, how can you really? You know what I mean? People do. They do hustle loyalty, respect. John Cena. That's what we're going to do.

It'll come to us as... Al-Natural. Just hit you any time? Do you, like, put it in your phone or something? Write it down? Yeah, how's it work? I just hit you when it hit you. Okay, so you're not writing down any of your punch lines?

You got to be. You got to think of something to be like, got to remember that. Holy shit. when I drop the golden goose line on Justin Hurd, they're going to love that. Or are you standing at the podium and you're like, we got the golden goose and then just go on,

wow, golden goose is interesting to think about it, and then go in that entire thing? Or are you writing those down like comedians would do? No, we're just thinking about getting really good at football. That might be the motto. He's not lying. That might be the model. We're just thinking about getting really good.

We're just thinking, imagine Herb down there in the way of that. We're just thinking about getting really good at football. That's all we need here. Coach, I saw you warming up over there. Would you like to do the throw here for $100,000 donation? Sure. Would you each like to take one maybe? I don't know how many good arms we have.

I mean, he's played professionally at that exercise, I think. His name is on the, yeah. His name is on the. Right. You pointed that out. Have you ever seen 94 to 97? That's a four years. I just impacted city.

Right. Yeah, that much. Yeah, that's unbelievable. Legend. Who else is doing that? No. Oh, buddy. Okay, coach, how old are you?

62. Are you throwing every day? Not every day. We saw this video as a Pete Carroll run in, throw, and doing all that. Are you that active at practice? We know you were cleats. Yeah, I mean, I, if there's a ball near, I'm going to pick it up and throw it. Boom.

That's what you do with ball. That might be. Pick it up and throw. Obviously, you've seen you play catch with the warm-ups. We've seen you beat the shit out of Justin Herbert before the game. Oh. Oh, we still got the ball control. I like that. Coach, if you make it in that hole right there,

$100,000 donation to a charity if you're choosing, here in the Combine, Charity Challenge. They move it back a little, man. He was warming up, 62 years old. First throw. Head coach of the Chargers. Yeah, I am worried it's going to fall. So let's do this quicker than slower.

Oh! Okay, we got another one. That was warm up. First one, a little low. Threw it in $100,000. Hey! Coach. You're pissed about that first one.

He is. Yeah, he was so great. Man, came through. A hundred thousand. Coach is still 100,000. Yeah. Coach, still 100,000. We're a chair.

It's good. Hey. Dude, and it was a good mess. That was a good miss that was in line. It was a hair low. You adjusted for the second rep. You know? It was such a bummed out.

High five. Yeah. I felt bad. Used to be proud. You should be proud. You stood. Dude, it's such a supreme flex. All right.

Hours ending here. They saw you. awesomely earn $100,000 to charity with your name on the building. We appreciate you, coach. We appreciate you, coach. Joe, good luck this off season. Thank you guys so much for stopping by. Stay travel is back.

The next season of the NFL kicks off here in Indianapolis, Indiana at the combine. Our two will be on the other side. We got Jesse Minter joining us. Great, man. They're saying we're going to like them. I assume they're a little, yeah, they're pumpedies out there. It's a good coaching trip. Yes.

All right. We'll see on the other side. Be a friend, tell you something nice. Might change your life. Fight. From 30 for 30 podcasts. Patta, senior defensive lineman from Miami. Gun down.

The key to this case, it's Brian. A hour before he died, he was on the phone. This might be a hit. You want the truth. Vegas one of conviction being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us. Murder at the U. Listen now. And I went past the wall.

Okay? It's hard. It's hard to hear. Is that why you're looking? There was a little thing? Or was it the timing? There was a little thing. Timing. Yeah, the time was bad.

I don't like what just happened there. We're missing Ty. We're missing Ty because Ty usually gives us a nice little of these. Football right here. Ty, we will see you in a few days. We love you, brother. As the Chargers exit, Safe Travelers Chargers. I think it was our green dot.

Yeah, there was your chance the middle linebacker, college football national champion, Super Bowl, championship, Rock, up. A.J. Hawke. I don't like what you did there. No, I might have been a bit. A little beat late, I think. Is that a confidence issue?

Like, what is it? No, not at all. Actually, very confident. That's why I waited. I let it breathe a little bit, and then I went. No, no, aren't you in the zone? Get to get in a flow state. Just kind of let it happen.

There shouldn't be any thinking. It should just be taking place. We'll come off a break. You know, maybe a little ring rust. Oh, yeah. Rest versus Ross situation. Yeah, I might be right. I don't know.

You're out there on the seas. Let's see how the next one works. To be how the next one works, to be completely honest, to A.J.'s point, when we came back, all of a sudden, where's the gym shot? Yeah, exactly. We zoomed in on the fields. What the hell?

I would go to Scott here. What the hell was that intro, Scott? Some creative liberties. Hey, listen, Scott's been with us through a lot, okay? That's true. He's not doing what he wants. What he wanted to showcase, I think, I don't want to get into his Cajun brain down there,

but I think what he was thinking is the action has begun. Yeah. Here at the Combine at Lucas Hole Stadium. That's Boston Connor. AP Tone is here as well. And obviously, we are live from the NFL Combine here. in Indianapolis, Indiana. It'll be the home here for at least another two years,

marking 41 years of Indianapolis being the host of the NFL Combine. We love it here in this city. We are built for it. Obviously, all the hotels are closed, all the restaurants are closed, the stadium, everything's connected. We are thankful and lucky that this happens in this city, and we are also pumped that the next NFL season has officially begun. Now, you can gamble on the Combine.

Yep. If you're it's any, you're looking for it. There is gambling abilities on the Combine. But I don't think it's just gambling on the combine. It kind of is the story of the combine. Tone, what are most people moving money on whenever it comes to betting on guys trying to earn jobs in the NFL? Yeah, you're looking at it here. A lot of the things that you can bet on the 40-yard dash, the 20-yard shuttle, the three-cone drill, obviously the bench press, the vertical, and the broad jump.

Or obviously, if someone will set a record for the 40-yard dash, which was 4-2-1 was Xavier Worthy. So I wanted to start with the 40-yard dash. It's the most popular thing. I wanted to start. The over under for this is 4.265. Jeez. That's flying. Last year's fastest time was 428. So this would have gone slower than 4265 last year.

I did some research, okay? Xavier Worthy, when he ran his 421, he was running 24.41 miles per hour. Okay, that's fast. That's speeding in some schools up. Okay. Then I tried to find what 4.265 translated to. That's 23.7 miles per hour. Dreey Archer, former Pittsburgh Steeler, was

running 23.7 when he ran a 4.26 here at the club. I like what we're doing here. This is good research. Oh, yeah. It's good science. The math lesson. Yeah, it's good. So then you go and you take a look at everyone in the combine.

And I used, oh, his name is blanket on me. I apologize. Bruce Feldman, he did a freaks list for college football before the season. In there, he showed that Chris Hilton, wide receiver from LSU, right here. You look at him right here. He's an absolute freak athlete. At LSU, he ran 23.7 miles an hour. So that's the exact same as Tree Archer.

That's putting them at a 4-26 range, okay? Then my other guy, Brennan Thompson, Thompson, he is a track star in high school. We ran a 10-18 100 meter in high school. He also ran 23.7 miles an hour. So, it's putting these guys both at around 4.26. That's why I decided, you know what, we get out here on this coconut hub? Oh, yeah. This was in pads, too.

Excitement. We go no pads. We go out here. They might run a 4-1 in no pads. And guys, humans are getting faster. They are getting faster. So I decided to go faster than the 4.265. Okay, so I like that bet.

I like that bet a lot, tone. And that's fun, too. That's wishing for success. That's like betting. Bingo. That's like betting it over on a game that you hope offense is going to happen. If we got somebody running faster in 4-265, I mean, that's an electrifying combine, AJ.

Yeah, everybody seems to be getting faster in every single position. I mean, we might see D. Yeah, but hold on. Oh, yeah. Sick locality. Remember, I think linebackers are starting to get bigger. Oh, yeah, you're right. Well, and now guys are like hybrid.

Are you an edge guy? Are you an off-the-ball linebacker, all of that as well. Because remember, I mean, McDame. there is a trendsetter. Him. He is a trendsetter in the NFL, that guy right there. Super cool jacket. Obviously, glass is always going to be the mocksy's going to be through the roof.

The shoes. Oh, everything. I've never even seen, apparently. But he is one of the ones. McVeigh, Shanahan, McDaniel. There's a couple guys that kind of set the tone on what the offense is going to be. He's Kelly Moe, I guess we could probably say now down in New Orleans. Kubiak, probably the next one. Up there, yeah, exactly. So there's like guys that set the tone on what it is.

he's very clear like, hey, cyclicality, cyclicality. It's like it feels like it's going to get big again. So this might be the last, like everybody's ridiculously fast. Because it might go back to like, hey, if you're a linebacker and you run a four or five, it's not like you're dead. Or like it used to be within the last 10 years, if he's running a 4, 6, 4,7, can't be on an NFL field because there's too much speed, there's too much space. But now because everybody gets small and fast,

offenses are going to be like, all right, well, let's go ahead and pound these dudes. So it's an interesting dynamic that will kind of get a sense. for here at the combat. I mean, look at the last two Super Bowls, even, my bad, but the Eagles running teams, Sequin Barkley, you know, Jalen Hertz, of course, the Tush Push. And then Seattle Seahawks. Seattle won. I mean, the Super Bowl MVP

was Kenneth Walker. You know, like running the football in between the tackles, that is very much back. So when we're talking about speed, especially at a linebacker position, like you do need to bring a little more beef. A little bit more thump. A little bit more pump. A little bit more pound. A little couple more ounces. That's what we're going to find out. But I do

believe I like the way you've gone with well if you put the radar off. Exactly. He's going 23 miles. And I picked track guys. I picked Freak Track guys. Another couple guys. And there's probably some corner that we did not bring up. So Damani Jackson, he was a five star out of California. He went to

Bama. He was setting records at track back in California when he came out. And then obviously you know, pawns is someone on IU Corner or someone to watch two in the 40. He is quick, fast, someone to watch there. Okay, so I think we all like that. It's not a guarantee. No. No. I think I think we all say we like that one.

That one, that's a fun one too. That one's, I get why they said it at 426 because, you know, 23.7 miles per hour. That's what that equals. You're basically the book. I use formulas for this next one, too, okay? The bench press, 220, 225, how many times can you do it? Okay, 35 and a half is the over or under for this one. Last year, the highest was 32.

So a bit of a down year last year. Definitely would have gone under last year for the 32. This one has an, has a equation as well, AJ. I'm taking the over. I don't even care about your question. I'm taking the over. There's an Epley equation. It's one rep max equals whatever, equals how many times you do 225.

There are three Alabama offensive linemen who all bench press over 500 pounds. Caden Proctor, Parker, Bralesford, and Jane Roberts. They all have 50, 50, 50 to 535 bench. Okay, that equals 35 plus reps every single time. I think one of those Alabama offensive line, I'm going to do it. Peter Woods, a defensive line from Clemson is on record doing 34. And then Gabe Jackus, he's outside for outside edge for Illinois. He's done 30 plus as well.

And that is that is documented. So there's five guys who I think could potentially go over 35 and a half. So I'm going to go over for the 225. 36 reps of 225 is insane, AJ. And it's so much. And the best part is it doesn't really matter at all. No, it doesn't. It don't really care.

For this, it does. For this, it does. For us, it cares. That's the point. For our egos and everything, yes, it does care. But there's never been a coach that says, This guy, you know, this D-N ran a 4-25. His L-Drill was beautiful.

Everything. He's super quick, but he only got 19 reps at 225, and we're not going to take him. That doesn't happen. Yeah, well, you know, the L-Dry, I've heard some great stories in the past of people kind of managing the clean lane. I need clean path. I really do. Hey, Bob Carpenter. That's a good story.

Thank you. Thank you, Bobby Carpenter. Thank you for always being the general. I don't know if the boys in the truck got to hear this. Before the show on live, we heard about General Bob Carpenter's workout at Ohio State. Bobby Carpenter, a part of the general. legendary linebacker crew at Ohio State of Schlags, Hawk, Carpenter. Marcus Freeman also in that room, an incredibly legendary crew.

Luke Fickle was the coach. He's currently at Wisconsin, we think. Look, come on back. Luke, Canadian football. Okay, good luck to Wisconsin. Good luck. Go back to Wisconsin. But a lot of these guys want to put their best foot forward, you know, both on the field

and how they present themselves. No doubt. The general Bob Carpenter said, move this L-Drill. there's two, this is too worn done for me. And it was telling the NFL scouts, he's going to have to adjust that. There's different levels of confidence. But there is a way that everybody,

Brand Porter just walked by, good to see you, special teams coordinator for the Niners. You're the man, Brent. Hey, get away from that electro-magnetic thing. Okay, yeah. Substation. Watch those knees and those ankles. But like everything's being,

everything's being judged. Everything. Like literally everything. How you walk through the hallway. How you talk to the people on the field. you go after your rep, how you stretch, it's like, it's crazy how much every single thing that you do is being scouted in judge. It is. I mean, it's the ultimate job interview. Think about it, if you're a coach or GM and you're thinking about spending millions of dollars on a player, like, if I see him throw

his bottle away and it clangs off the rim, that's one question. He can't play basketball. He's not that good of an athlete. But if he leaves it on the ground, it doesn't pick it up and put it back, like that's going to legit have an impact on people. For some people. Yeah, for some people. Not everybody, but everything is being watched. No matter what, but I think the greatest thing, all you can do, be yourself, be authentic. You can't be coached up. A lot of times you go to these draft gurus

that try to tell you how to speak to these coaches and what to do. I think be yourself, whoever that is, show that to the coaches, show them you love ball, and that's all the matters. All right, we have a man who's a head coach for the first time in the NFL. He's a national champion in Michigan,

goes over the Chargers, easily picks up the NFL game, and now he's being tasked. with being Lamar Jackson's head coach. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of Ravens, Jesse Minton. Yay, coach. This thing.

Just stand up. Coach, how are you? See you. How are you doing, Coach? Good to see you. Handshakes, very Caucasian boys. Well, clean beard. Yeah.

Clean. Ravens, too, you know. Yeah, true. Yeah. Scumbags normally. No. Whoa. That is not true at all.

That is not true at all. Hey, good to see, man. Good to see you. Congrats on being a head coach. Appreciate that. Let's go, coach. Hey, that's awesome. You know, obviously you make the jump from Michigan to the NFL with Harbaugh.

In L.A., obviously, the conversation is Jesse Minter is a wizard at defensive side of the ball. Is it going to work in the NFL? Then what you do with Derwin James, what you do with that entire defense, immediately puts your name into conversations for head coaching shit. Are you ready for it? Do you feel like? Why do you think you're ready to be a head coach? And what is your expectations now that you have the Baltimore Ravens? gig. I definitely feel

prepared. Well, I mean, that's a bad question, but like, why do you think you are ready for that situation? You know, the last two years, I would say, going from Michigan back to the NFL with Jim and being at with the Chargers as he was trying to you know, kind of claim

identity, build something. So being there with him his first year, I think really started to allow me to be prepared for this. I think the second year, Jim and Joe Ortiz, who I know, I think they were both just on. Yeah. They both really, you know, took a lot into helping me be prepared for this moment.

So they gave me a lot of insight. They let me be involved in a lot of different types of things in the organization to help me be prepared. And now that I am, you know, their advice is just go be yourself. You're ready for this and go be you. Tell me about Bashati. Okay. We didn't know much about them. Your wire's on your mic.

Yeah. No, it's up underneath the thing. I put into the thing. Yeah, just move it down. The wire, Don. I got you. I got you. Perfect.

They're fickle. Yeah. That's not your fault. 100% our fault. All good. These wires do kind of do their. Blame Joel Ortiz. Yeah, Ortiz.

He said you got to figure that out. Okay, so let's talk about Bashadi a little bit. We don't really know much about him other than he needs me on a microphone more. That's the man. That is what we expect. He, rightfully so, said, hey, I'm good at my job. Let me, okay, I can hire people. I can kind of figure it out.

What was the interview process like? And why ultimately do you think, he decided that you were the right guy to be the steward of the Baltimore Ravens with Lamar Jackson and a loaded talent after an incredibly long run by John Hartball. Yeah, I mean, number one, I think he's the best owner in sports. He creates an environment where you're always going to be, you know, doing what's needed to be successful. So there's not any amount of money he's not willing to spend, any type of thing you need to, you think might help you be better.

He's providing. And then through the interview process, I think there was. was a little bit of, you know, this guy understands the foundation that's been built here, but he's also now been out on his own and has some different ideas of how to, you know, bring a few new things while also understanding and respect in the history, how it's been built, why it's been built a certain way. And so we certainly want to lean into that. We want to lean into what's been really good there. But I also think just having a younger, newer, fresher thing sometimes. No message.

You know, people embrace change. Definitely. And I think Baltimore Ravens fans are excited. I don't think, I don't know if they expected you to necessarily be, especially because Lamar Jackson is your quarterback. Whenever you think about being the head coach of a team that has Lamar Jackson, that has to feel pretty amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. Not that Herbert, obviously, we love Herbert. And we think the same thing about Justin Herbert. We think he is a fantastic player. But you're Lamar Jackson's head coach, especially at this level, whereas arm is maybe best in the league. Obviously, he's still Lamar. How does that kind of, I don't want, motivate you?

inspire you? How have you handled that entire relationship? I would say it's certainly motivating to, number one, build a team that allows him to have success at the level that he's chasing. There's nothing more that he would rather do than to bring a championship to Baltimore. And so when you know that he's your quarterback, you always have a chance, motivating to build a great defense, motivating to hire a great offensive staff, motivating to build a great special teams so that the team around him is up to his level. So much fun to watch. Go ahead, AJ. I guess your first time being a head coach in the NFL at the combine,

what's it feel like the few short days you have been here? Is there a different energy coming in? Like, what does it feel like for you? Yeah, it's definitely a little different. But haven't, you know, haven't been here a few times. There's at least like the familiarity of how it all works. Now you're the big guy. A lot more.

Every conversation, hey, every combo you have now is the most important combo that people have. A lot more media obligations, I would say. Thank you for doing our show. But that's the fun stuff. But that's the fun stuff. But, you know, it's just like getting a chance to evaluate everybody, not just a defensive player, all the offensive players, getting a feel for what makes them go. You know, in those short meetings, it's just a touch point.

It's just like. Can you gain a lot from those short meetings with these players? You know, I think you can gain a little bit. And so, but a little bit is better than nothing. And I would say that they're, you know, most of these guys are well prepared. You know, they have these people that help. Do you want them well prepared like that? Or do you want them just be in them?

I think you try your best to get them off of the well-prepared script. They're guru that coached them up to- talk a little bit and find out a little bit about maybe something that makes them go, something that motivates them. And these guys, you know, everybody's been great. You can certainly, there's levels to a really good interview, and then there's guys that may not know certain detail as much as you'd like to see. So try to, if you can get a little bit from it, I think it's worth doing.

Mike Tallman has said in the past that the AFC, North is the kitchen and it's hot in the kitchen. There is a lot of tradition and a lot of history in the AFC North, especially with a lot of rivalries, a lot of change as well. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, with all due respect to the Browns and the Bengals, it's been the Steelers and Ravens for 20. He's Steelers fan, Judge.

Yes, I am. And like when you're at the Combine and when you're doing the draft and you look at guys, it used to be a thing. I think it still is a thing. You're like, that's a Raven. That's a Steeler. And you being used to being with the Ravens, is that how you're going to go into this? because it felt like the Ravens defense was not as disruptive last year as it has been in the past.

Like that's literally what they are. That's what the Ravens are. That's what the Steelers are. So when you go in there and you talk about, you know, you know how this was built, but you're going to bring in some new things? Are you still going to be like this guy? This is a Raven guy. And that's what we're going to be on the defensive side or?

Yeah, I definitely think that guys that play a certain style, play a certain way, fit Baltimore. It'd be crazy to go away from that, you know, what's been so successful. And you look at really the obvious, probably, probably over the history of the last 30 years, the two organizations who's, when you think defense, you know, you kind of think those two teams. And so we feel like there's a lot of work to do to get back to that. Well, also doing it maybe a different way, doing it with the new age style, the new age defense system, maybe a different philosophy. But certainly want to play Ravens defense at the end of the day.

Jesse Minter defense is also good. Hembo sent us some stats here on your defense when you're at the Chargers, 23% percent. pressure to sack rate. That's the fourth highest in the NFL. 70% zone usage, second highest rate in the NFL. 55% too high safety usage, which is second highest rate. Feels like you like your dogs to do your dog stuff. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, and you got an all pro at safety, Kyle Hamilton. I think we asked you about this when you first got the job, but how special is it to have a chess piece like that? Was that an attraction for you? I mean, first head coaching job, so no matter what, you know, it's going to be incredible. But when you think about the guys that you have, those pieces that you have,

Is he the most integral part? Is he the one you've kind of been talking to as you've taken over the head gig? And where do you kind of envision him and using him this upcoming season? Yeah, you know, I classify him as a defensive weapon. Like there's there's guys that play positions. There's guys that play three technique and that's what they play. There's guys that play corner and that's what they play. There's guys that you can move anywhere within the defense and they can be really effective.

And the closer you have him to the point of attack, the more impactful he can be. And so the goal on every play will be to take advantage of Kyle's skill set, have him as close to the action and as impactful as he can be. Try to have him be disruptive. Had a guy

similar with L.A. and Dorewen, and so I couldn't be more excited to have Kyle, be able to work with Kyle. You can have a couple of Kyle. I think Kyle Van Newey would love to go back. Yeah, he's great player. He's been losing his leverage publicly every time he talks about it, business wise, but he still got it.

way he talks about that defense and like that building it's like there's a lot of pride from those folks obviously as there should be excited to see what you're able to do because this last year the conversation was the defense not going to be able to win for him it's like the raven correct that is never the convo but what if you think about that often a little more yeah Derek henry oh I mean he's untackled come on and where in fountain the youth some he's still running harder than everybody are you guys going to win a super bowl jess is that what's about to happen right now or the ball's the plan it has to be right that's the plan everybody has to have that mindset that's right and you have to but you know you can talk about that and you can say that uh we want our fans to have

expectations of us to win the super bowl but really it's about creating standards creating an environment creating a day-to-day process that allows you to do that yeah i'm excited to watch you guys do it a good a j yeah how much of coaching especially defense i guess is finding taking your team the talent that you have and then kind of crafting the defense around them and not trying to jam them into whatever your scheme is. I say this, because I remember back in the day your dad was coaching at Cincinnati, I still remember being in-person watching these tall, I think, converted receivers playing D-N, literally jumping over running backs to get to the quarterback.

I just, I don't know how old I was watching it, but I remember that and think, oh, that's how you use your athletes. And I assume you want to do something like that. I think that's what coaching is. I mean, you know, it's what do you have available? How can you best put them in position to be successful and do the things that they do really well. I really think that's the job of a coach on any position, any phase of the game, offense, defense special teams is to create a system that allows you the flexibility. Your best

players are three technique. Let's have some stuff that really takes advantage of him. Your best player is a corner. Let's have some things that take advantage of him. And so over the last four years of doing this, really this scheme, you know, it's almost been a different player, you know, at different times. And so that's the goal that we have and that's what we'll try to do. Dad's still working with you, huh? He is. Yeah. Senior defensive analysts.

Living the dream. So, okay, so you boss him around? Yeah, sometimes. That's awesome. Hey, go. When did that switch? When did that flip where you could start bossing him around? The first time was in 2016.

I was a D.C. at Georgia State, and he, this was really the first time. He decided he was with the Eagles, with Chip Kelly prior to that, ended up in that coaching cycle looking for something to do. decided to come down there and coach our defensive line, which he had never done, which was kind of a fun challenge for somebody like him. And so it's kind of been that way ever since.

Okay, hold on, because we just saw us not work in Tennessee. Yeah, not at all. Yeah, that did not go great. That did not go great. I'm sure there has been times in the past where it's worked out very well. Plenty. The Kiffins, not NFL, but Lane and Monty, yeah. I just love the thought of your dad looking at you going.

I'm not doing that. I think you're, I'm not, I'm not going to do that. Speaking of doing something, there's been a staple on the Baltimore Ravens for a while. Now obviously a conversation taking place. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, coach, a lot of people, number one free agent out there, Linderbom. I don't know how much you're involved with the negotiations or stuff like that, but have you gone to his house yet and said, hey, we would love to have you back.

I would say that he knows how we feel about him. What do they do for Jason Kelsey? Kega beer. Yeah, yeah. They sent him a little gift. Yeah, he knows how we feel about him. He's one of the best in the business. He's maybe the best center, one of the best linemen period.

Major part of the team the last few years, you've really seen him develop into that, you know, since they drafted him. Guy, we'd love to have it back. You have your headphones on. I don't know if you have any cauliflower ear. He's a really good wrestler, too, if you want to start dancing with him.

Okay, McDonald, obviously with what he was able to do in Seattle. Defensive genius. Okay. offensive wizards had their run. You defensive guru seemingly having a run right now as head coach. What McDonald's able to accomplish in Seattle so quickly, I think we're all incredibly marveled by. Unbelievable work.

They put out a video of his first team meeting. And he said, I want you to close your eyes and think so it's going to be late January. It's going to be in the 30s. It's going to be rainy. Shitty for them, just right for us. And then two years, I think he was nine months off. He said nine months, he was 12 months. I forget what it was.

Nine months off maybe because he said it was going to happen at first year. happens in the second year. He obviously looks like a genius. Have you envisioned what this first team meeting is going to be like? Have you envisioned the message? How many times have you practiced it in the mirror? Or like, how do you kind of handle that first message to the team? Because obviously you know that's very important because we as players can immediately see, oh, this guy's scared. Oh, this guy doesn't really have a plan. Can't read the notes, obviously. Have to talk directly to the people. How many times have you thought about that and how excited are you for those moments. Yeah, I've put a lot of thought into it. And that's exactly to me it's laying out a vision

for what's about to happen. Some big picture where you're looking all the way to the to the Super Bowl, some where it's maybe just, hey, like we're going after small, small wins every day. And so I think it's a combination of that. But we certainly want the guys to understand where we're headed, but also what it's going to take to get there. AFC seems like there's a lot of turnover. Seems like there's a lot of potential question marks, but it's very deep. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, deep. And one thing we were just talking to Mike McDaniel about, actually, now we see the charges was kind of how the, you know,

football is cyclical, of course. But two years ago, offenses were way ahead. And then to what Pat just said, you know, the defensive coaches, you guys, McDonald's huge run now. It's kind of going the other way. When you see guys at the Combine and when you just see kind of schemes and things of that nature in the NFL now, does it feel like it is swinging back to kind of bigger,

you know, players and also defensive being more of a focal point? Yeah, it's definitely, it definitely goes in cycles. And it's a copycat league. And so teams try to emulate what's been successful. You look at the Eagles two years ago, line of scrimmage, great defense. And a defense really young and built through the draft. They had a really young defense in 24. They added one or two really key pieces.

And then you look at Mike's defense this year. And it was a little bit more the, the general. drafted a D-Lyman again a couple years ago. And Murphy, who had a great second year. And so the O-line and D-line-driven teams, I think, is back, you know. And I also think, like, defenses, the explosive play metrics have kind of flipped because everybody's, you know, more too high, more shell. And so, but if you're going to do that, and that's what we want to do, you want to not let

them throw the ball over your head, you've got to be really big and strong up front and be able to still stop the run at times without maybe throwing extra people down there. So I definitely think it's a copycat league and more and more people are going to be trying to build like that. Four ones on D-line, right? That's what you need. That's right. You need four ones.

We need seven, 14 eyes. We need 14 eyes to be able to watch everything else. We need the D-line to win, right? That's kind of who's been winning. Yeah. And that was a big thing for the Ravens this year as Matt Abakee couldn't fly. Yeah, and then. He was out the whole year, you know, those.

Maybe you get down there. Yeah. Something about it. Dibbon rip. know if that would help us. Congratulations, man. Thank you. You should be incredibly pumped. There's only 32 of them. Fired up.

Bishadhi, I don't think, gets it wrong either. No. I feel like he knows. Just from listening to him, talk one time. I believe in him. I believe. His last coach was 18 years. Have you met Buda or Stavi yet?

No. You need to. Get him on your side. You want butter on your side. You would like Stavee on your side as well. Got you. And his cousin. You would like, yes, certainly.

Definitely his cousin. Okay. You would like them on your side. I'm excited for them to ride along the wave with Jesse Manter. They will be your biggest advocates when you guys win. Put Joe Flacco in the hall of faith. If you do that. They will do the entire thing.

So I'm excited for you to kind of take over in Baltimore. Such a good football town, man. Such a good football city. Such a good team, such a good organization. And Lamar Jackson deserves a Lombardi. I'm excited to see how quickly you can get that job. job done. Congrats on it.

Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Baltimore Ravis, Jesse. Now, Jesse, before you get out of here, Jesse, can you throw or no? Yeah, we'll see.

You throw to D.Bs and shit? Yeah. Okay, okay, let's go. Let's go. All right, Jesse. Jesse Menter, head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, former D.C.

of Michigan Wolverines, had been with the Ravens before, had been in college before as well. Don't like the slant kind of Sicilianiano in you right now. Jesse Menter is a 5-foot-10, six-foot-tall-tall man. It is not a

slant's getting you right now, yeah. I don't like it at all. Here's the Scott Cap. Jesse, if you were able to put that football, are you a lefty? Lefty. Oh. Lefty, Jesse.

Okay, coming in from the, let me stand on this side. Yeah, let me get the hell out of the way. There you go. How old are you, Jesse? 42. You throw every day of practice? No.

Do you put the cleats on, like Jim and kind of run around? I do not. Do you work out on a daily basis? I do. What do you do? A little workout, a little weight room, a little peloton, a little mix up. You got a peloton in the office?

Not in my office? yet. It's going to be there, though. Potentially. It feels like that's what you guys do because you can still watch film. I can still do get my sweat on here, but... I do the one down in the wait room. I'm good. I need a little break from the office. I like that. New scenes, new vibes, new ideas. How about a $100,000 donation if you're able put that football into that hole right over there? It has not been conquerable on the first yet. Okay? Myself missed it. Jim Horbaugh missed it. We think you are going to make it.

If you're able to put it on the first one, $100,000 donation to a charity of your choosing. Jesse mentored head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. 100,000, Jesse. Oh, man. Never a doubt. Nailed. Steve Young. We're at the we're at the combine. All right, Jesse. Thank you, dude.

Never a doubt, man. That was unbelievable. There was no climax. No, no climax. No, no class. Just the easiest. You made that look so simple. That's Baltimore Ravens head coach, Jesse. Thank you, man. See you later, brother. Appreciate it. Good luck.

Thank you. Good luck, coach. handshake there it is hand shake thank you sir unbelievable how boy was that that was dead center he was unbelievable just cool it looked like keller more collected yeah it did it looked like keller more right there

Steve young yeah defensive guy did we expect that they throw a lot I can see when he said he doesn't you can see when he held the bonus left hand he looked like comfortable got it he was very very comfortable he even they wanted ease I think yeah these guys these guys are about to find out break on ball and put anything As Jesse Mentor continued to astonish us with his brain and his new title as the Baltimore Ravens head coach,

the kickers have gotten started down on the field. Obviously, kickers are drafted. When they are drafted, they are given an opportunity to make a roster. There's only 32 kickers in the NFL. If you get a job and you do well, you can be there for 20 years. You miss a couple kicks, you could be gone seemingly as soon as possible. There was a miss, I believe, that just took place, but there's been a lot of makes. I'll tell you, just by watching the ball has come through the uprights,

and hitting the net, I think I could scout on who's going to make it, who's not going to make it. I'm pretty sure you could. There's been a couple. What are you looking for for real? Height. I want to see height. Like up quick, you mean? Like, bam.

Yeah, I want to height. So there's a couple guys here that we've been watching earlier that have been kicking from closer distances where it's been going to middle of the upright. It's like I don't think his leg's strong enough. This guy, good kick right there. I think that's a good ball right there. That thing was going through still. There's a couple guys where it was kind of falling off a little bit.

I think NFL coaches are saying, okay, is the 17 game season. This guy's going to get tired. I don't think he's going to make it. I think strength is obviously number one. Control is obviously a massive ordeal. But also how you handle this. This is new snapper, new holder, new balls. How do you kind of emulate what NFL life is going to be?

And there's always a couple kickers that go on and save team seasons. And there's always a couple kickers that go on and win some games that you don't think a team's going to be able to do. And there's always, like, that ball is really low. That guy, I think, XFL probably, or UXFL for probably a year or two, and then maybe come into the NFL. or maybe just hit a bad ball and a bad hole. Maybe not with the new rules in the XSFFL. Yeah, 4.60-yard kicks. Love that they're doing that.

I love that the UXS.S.S.FL is doing that. And the ComBine is officially on the way. What's wrong, Hage? New Columbus team, Ted Ging, Jr., my old teammates coach. In the UX-FL? What's the league? USFXXL. Yeah, what is the...

I don't believe that's the way up on the net. That's exactly what they call it. They changed the name. The UXS. FL? I think it's the U. XFL is the United States extreme football. And you get four points if he had a 60-yard field goal.

I like to were doing that. I do too. You know, the big three, not the big three. Was that what? Ice Cube. Yeah. Yeah. Four-point shot.

Four-part shot. I like that. Yeah. I hope the NBA would take it in there. I don't think they ever will. Four point 60-yard field goals, potential. I think it has potential because the guys are able to do it now. With that being said, Brandon Aubrey is potentially

going to get $10 million a year as the kicker. Now, I saw the way he was reported that Brandon Aubrey is looking to get $10 million. I don't think brand, unless he's representing himself, I think what is happening here is Brandon Aubrey's agents are saying, hey, I think his guy's worth $10 million. And if he's able to accomplish it, especially with how true he has been since stepping foot, USXFO alumni, since stepping foot onto the field for the Dallas Cowboys, he's been true, he's been their best player.

And if he gets $10 million a year, that'll be great. for kickers and punters everywhere. But that also means that, you know, you've got to make every single kick. That is one of those jobs. So I went into a free agency one time. I got franchise tagged, and then I went into free agency. And it was an interesting negotiation.

I've talked about this. Grigsin not the biggest fan of mine. He was the general manager at the time. Him and I have a good relationship now, by the way. Saw each other. That's actually been a pretty cool thing. He's an orangutan. I mean, he is

Like big, strong guy? Giant. He is gigantic. He's with the Vikings right now. But I wasn't exactly who he was thinking of was going to be his punter. So this guy's on Twitter, he's popular, Zell Jersey, talks a lot, he swears. This is not what I want. It's not normal. This is not what I want my punter position to be.

Now, a general manager could have came in there and said, holy hell, we got a guy who, you know, does all this stuff. But it wasn't his vision of what a kicker and punter should be. He's offensive linemen, too. Like, hey, like, let's shut up. So I understand the disagreement in that entire thing. but the negotiation was not like a positive one. You know, like Jim Ursay was the reason why he was being forced to negotiate with me. He would have been okay with me leaving.

Jim Ursay says the guy's not leaving. So then while you're negotiating, me is punner and guy that at that time, I don't think I was the best in the league or whatever. It's like, what's the right price that if I hit a couple bad balls, I'm not immediately getting cut because I'm a cap casualty? So for me, there was like a fine balance where it's like, do I need to be the highest paid guy? I don't think I need to be the highest paid guy.

you're going to give me a couple million to do this? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that sounds like a deal to me. And with the cap part of it, $10 million a year to a kicker, Brandon Aubrey would certainly be the guy that would be worth it. But if you have just a couple weeks where it's not good,

even the most beloved kicker punner, we'll get waste the money. We get a wide receiver. We don't have an offensive line. We can get three good offensive linemen with that amount of money. It's crazy how that all kind of comes into play. And if Aubrey does this, I'll be pumped for him, and I think he's the right guy for it.

But anytime you get the, new record setting contract that comes the expectations as well. I hope he pulls it off. And maybe one of these guys will be the next guy to become the next Brandon Aubrey. Yeah, I mean, if it is going to be anybody, Aubrey makes sense. You just looked at those Hembo stats and how good he has been since he has been with the Cowboys. And for someone to do this, they have to be a weapon. It's not like someone who is making 50-yarders consistent. It has to be these guys who can make 65, 68, 60s.

Like, this has to be someone who is different, unique, a unicorn, so that it is a situation and we're like, oh, okay, he is worth this $10 million, even though if you make kicks, tell you what, I know a lot of coaches who don't like points, points are very important. If you make your kicks, like I think $10 million for kicker, and no one's talking about salary caps a billion dollars now. Yeah, salary cap is certainly jumping,

and I think it's only going to go up as they continue to add primetime games and more streaming platforms are getting into it. Obviously, remember, 49.5% of the revenue from media, TV rights and merch, I think, is what the players end up getting. So every new primetime game that gets signed, massive money comes into the leagues. It obviously is dispersed amongst 32. The new salary cap gone up in a big way.

2020, if you look at the Yodoole yodily yodily salary cap, which means the I think you can kind of judge it as the health of the league. I think you can kind of judge it as the health of the league. The salary cap just since its inception basically has gone up like this. COVID, because there's no ticket sales or anything like that, kind of sat down like this. So a lot of the GMs are kind of put behind because of what they are expecting it to be whenever they were negotiating deals.

Then there was a makeup jump. They were like, hey, we got you for COVID. We'll make it back. And then now it's escalating quicker than they ever could have imagined. So $10 million for a kicker, if he's great, might become status quo. Because if you don't have a guy,

you are. You don't know when you're going to be screwed. But it's normally going to be the biggest moment of the season is going to come down to it and you're not going to have the guy and you're going to regret not having it. And that is just kind of how it goes at those certain positions.

Congrats to Brandon Aubrey. Speaking of $10 in dollars, Seattle Seahawks have begun the sale process, $10 billion. Chee-ish. Jody Allen. Yeah. Win Super Bowl gets a trophy on stage. Hey, we're doing. Good time.

We're open for business. We are open for young coach. Got a lot of contracts still here. Sam Donald think he's going to be thankful for what we did for him. Not a bad time to maybe get up here in the Pacific Northwest for you people to have a lot of money. 10 billion for the Seahawks. Miami Dolphins allegedly in the past have been offered a $10 billion evaluation is what

Stephen Ross said. So who knows what this is going to get up to, but congrats to the Seattle Seahawks and to the Allen family for guiding it in such a good way. John Schneider will join us in about 22 minutes. Obviously, he's going to go down as one of the greatest GMs in the history of the NFL. Good for them and good for the NFL that the teams are just

10 bill potentially. It's probably going to be even more than that. Well, and if there's ever been a more perfect time, you mentioned the Super Bowl, but also they have to pay so many players. I assume maybe the Allen estate, you know, Jody especially might say like, hey, look, you want to get in on this business? Because it is. I mean,

you said it's one of the most consistent, healthy businesses over the last, what, 30 years, 25 years? Like, yeah, it's undefeated. And I mean, we're talking about it here at the Combine. Like, these dudes are getting bigger, faster, stronger. Maybe not they're getting faster, but they're getting stronger than if they're not getting faster.

So the league as a whole, especially with how good the quarterbacks are right now, like it is at an all-time, huh? Is it the off-season? No. There is no offseason. Bingo. I like what you guys are doing to try to sell the league.

But it is the off season. It is the off season. Technically. I mean, there is. The ratings for the combine beat like. Okay. We're talking business. Okay.

No football's not being played right now. We agree that the NFL never sleeps. Yes. I'll step aside. But it is the off season. And that means Trey Hendrickson and Cincinnati Bengals don't know what hell is going to happen. What is going on? What is going on?

What are we at? right now. Nothing's off the table. Could franchise tag him, could trade him, could cut him, could release him, could peg him. There's no way he's going in. I don't, genuinely? I think he would. I think he would actually go in. Funny enough, I saw some people saying, hey, if this guy gets franchise

tagged, no way he goes to the Bengals. I think if he got franchise tagged, it'll probably be a couple months of tissues, but then after a little bit, it is crazy. It is crazy that this is never getting figured out. You're wasting away. Both of you are just wasting away. At some point,

somebody has to make a decision. Okay? Like that is, that's kind of the position that some people are in. And it's like, why are we just letting this continue to be a thing? And the bank was saying, it's never been a thing. We've given him a contract. What is the thing? That's what the Bengals are saying.

We'll know soon, right? When is the tag deadline? March? I think it's, because if he doesn't get tagged, he's a free agent. All right, so we will keep our eye on Trey Hendrickson watch, which we, I mean, we don't like to talk about our journalism exploits, but I think that all kind of started on our show. Radio Row years ago, years ago. And now it is still continuing. And then if we're going to talk pass rushers,

we've been calling for this for a while. Oh, yeah. And people don't necessarily love that we've been calling for it, especially Raiders fans. And the person himself has not been happy that we've been calling for it because he has so much pride and we understand and we respect it.

Max Crosby might be on a move to a playoff contender. Max Crosby might be in the Super Bowl. Max Crosby might be seen by the 30, 40, 50 million viewer count games that we get only in the biggest stages of the season in which the Raiders have not been in for a long time. Now, do we think with Fernando Mendoza, the Raiders are going to be great? I do. I think Fernando Mendoza is generational. I think Fernando Mendoza, 6'5, dog has beers with the boys, super smart, wildly intelligent, accurate, and he's tough. I think he is generational.

I think the people that are on TV talking about him, maybe not being a guy, or the same people that were saying, Dante Moore was the number one overall quarterback in this particular draft class. And it's just because they were late to the party with Mendoza, and they don't want to realize that. They don't want to state that they relate to the party.

We have seen this guy because we are lucky to be in this state since he got here. I saw him a Cal. I mean, we were out there with Cal whenever we went out to the incredible Berkeley campus out there and had a wild morning shot to Daniel kind of starting a field goal thing out there as well, that entire thing against Miami. He pulls another one. Cam Ward has another magical win over him. But Fernando Mendoza, everything we have heard about him,

everything we have seen from him, every pass that we've watched him throw in games and in warm-ups, says he's a guy. And I assume there's going to have to be nitpicking because this is the draft and everything like that. But I think a lot of guys that like to judge what the forecast of the future is going to be just maybe didn't know about Mendoza until late.

So it feels like they're maybe trying to justify themselves with some negative. I think he's a guy guy. And I, I'm a firm believer in that. I think the Raiders are getting an incredible football player over that, great leader of the team. Oh, yeah.

I mean, all the on the field stuff, off the field stuff, you don't have to worry about him. But his size, too, is what's very, it's just impressive. Sometimes the guys will have everything, but they might be a little undersized. And you understand people saying, hey, he's going to be great, but I'm not sure if this translates to the NFL.

Like, Fernando, it sure feels like everything will translate to the NFL very, very well. And being able to be around him a little bit, at the Super Bowl at Radio Row. I was walking next to him in the break. I'm like, geez, like, you're a much bigger human than I even thought. And we watched him play in person multiple times. So, yeah, I am definitely sold on Fernando Mendoza.

You said that, yeah, the Raiders will be great, maybe when. Like, I think the Raiders will be better with Fernando. Ashen Jent and Brock Baers, you know, an offense, a line in there? You know, you talk about him being, the conversation about him, I guess, because we've asked some people around town, you know, like, why is there some people coming out saying, like, Fernando might not be a guy? well, it's R.P.O. So he's much more athletic than you think he would. Quickly make decisions.

Yeah. How about his back shoulder and the way he throws a ball? It's like, how come everybody gets trying to think they're just looking for negatives? He's minus 20,000 go number one overall. He's going number one overall. But I think the Raiders are getting a special player. So it would be crazy if they trade a Max now, you know? Yeah. That would be an insane thing for the Max Crosby Raiders arc if that was a thing. And what, SpyTech came out yesterday and said that he wants Max to be on the team, I believe, even expects Max to be on the team, which is you're looking at it right there.

So yeah, they would make sense to be. But you're like what the now you can't do this every off season because free agency is different. It's not as good this year now. But if they were to get Linderbom, it may be. But like if they sure up that interior offensive line and then they have Mendoza and then they there's there's some and then they draft well on defense. Yes. But like the offense that he's going to be running with Kubiak fits him perfectly. And the one thing that we haven't mentioned is we watched him get smacked in the mouth.

multiple times. That Miami game, the Ohio State game, like he took an absolute beating. It did not phase him. And I think that comes a lot from Cal when he was at Cal. He was one of the most sacked quarterbacks in college football. He took an absolute beating there. So I think that benefited him actually so that when he got behind a good offensive line, he was like, oh, this is awesome. But even, but then when he still got hit, it didn't bother him at all. So if he goes to Raiders and it takes him a little bit of time with the offensive line, he's not going to be one of those rookie quarterbacks where

like they just go into a shell on their entire career. I think he's special, special. Honestly, I think he's special, special. And he can speak Spanish for the Raiders fans. I mean, all of them. I don't do it much on the shit. On here, though, he doesn't do a whole lot. What's that?

When you speak Spanish to him, he usually. Yeah, why is every Spanish speak? Cristobal's the same way. Yeah, why is that? I'm trying. They think you're like being disrespectful? No. That's not the word I would have used.

Hey, by the way, incredible hat. I just won't let you know. I just saw the hat. You see it? Yeah. You definitely bought that in a store in Ohio, and I love that. I bought that a gas station on the way. I knew that was the answer.

Love's the cool. Loves. I'll probably stop there. Love's a great. Yeah, Loves is great. They have showers in there if you want. Yeah. Yeah, trucker, come on in.

Got a little buggy on the side there. Maybe some lot lizards for you, too, if you could go ahead and date you around properly. But I don't think you should do that. I don't think you should do that. But I think Fernandez special, man. I genuinely, and then I saw, obviously, these conversations have to happen in daily sports talk, especially if you cover the league. You have to say, maybe the Raiders trade the number one.

I'll pick and go pick up a bus. bunch of things. It's like, are they not looking, have they not? So I guess Gino's going to get traded then, probably right now? Yeah, dude. So let's go to the trade block, actually. Oh, shit. You all right. That's the second time today I've seen you do that. You hit the both of them. The drawer. Oh, Jesus. My knee kind just got double team here from the front and the back. Wood this way, wood that way. Yeah. Wood all around you. Yeah, bumped wood there with my knee, my patella really got in there.

Little little ring rushes. We got a, we got a trade block graphic, though. There's a lot of names that are potentially on the move. Obviously, Tyreek Hill already released from the Miami Dolphins, so he would be available for a team to sign. Has another surgery. Dr. David Chow. Yeah. Says that one, another surgery still at this point with already having knee surgery.

Could limit him for next season. We'll see how that goes. But all these guys potentially on the move. Kyler Murray, obviously Arizona Cardinals quarterback for a lot of times of transition. And if there's a lot of transition while you were the quarterback for the team, normally it means your team's not doing good. You were going to take a lot of heat for that. Then whenever there's clauses put into your contract

and another thing said by former players, it's certainly going to get loud. A nice refresh for Kyler Murray could be good at a new place. Just like, you know, Baker Mayfield, I think, said he wasn't the most mature he was supposed to be at Cleveland, turned into a pro. Maybe Kyla Murray gets a new stop and kind of does his thing. Some people mention in an elevator on the way up here, could you imagine Kyle Murray with Kevin O'Connell?

Who said that? That'd be interesting. Then he started thinking about the Minnesota Vikings. They got J.J. McCarthy. How's this whole in time? experiment going to go with him not being able to play enough, but are they going to be in the market for a veteran quarterback? Is Kirk Cousins potentially going back to the Minnesota Vikings

within entirety of it all? And you start thinking about the big names, AJ Brown, obviously with the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, they say the squeaky wheel gets the oil. He's been a squeaky wheel for a long time. Yeah, yes. It's been a squeaky wheel over in Philly. A lot of people saying, wow, Vrabel really likes A.J. Brown.

If you remember when he was traded away from Tennessee to Philadelphia, if Rabel did a walk away. Go this fucking guy. Went outside to lit up a sig immediately. Yep. Turn back around, sits back down. I'm going to need to hear the plan on how we replace AJ Brown. And then from that moment forward, it was over.

Absolutely. There it is. There we go. Robinson. Okay. All right. So we're training away the best player on the field. Okay.

All right. Okay. From that moment on, Titans and Braves pretty much. done. That was the moment on. So a lot of people up in New England are saying, it would be nice to have a number one wide receiver. And AJ, wouldn't it be nice to have a coach that loves you in that? A lot of smoke seemingly around that. But I don't think Philadelphia Eagles are just going to give up A.J. Brown. I think that's going to be a lot there. Yeah, no chance. And Siriani came out and said he can't

guarantee that the Eagles will have A.J. Brown on the roster next year. But that feels like one that gets done. Like even the Max Crosby one, a little different. Like, You mean AJ back in Philly? AJ back in Philly. I don't think so. Whole new. Oh, you're out. AJ, you're saying.

I don't see how he's back there. I just feel like it feels like they have. It's always. There's enough animosity and enough going on that it feels like the Eagles, they probably want to try to keep him. But I just don't see it happen. Connor's trying to undersell this right now because him to the Patriots is very loud. And Conner's trying not to get too ahead. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let's not jinx this thing.

We'd love for it to happen. If anything, I'd probably rather Max Krossey, but still an AJ Brown on the team would be awesome. But a year ago, we're talking about the Eagles being the Super Bowl champs. Like, is it really one year later that it doesn't work? I don't know. But the Eagles have a ton of those questions. Stoughton getting, you know, him being gone. Like the Eagles are kind of one of those teams.

You're kind of like, what the hell is going on there? But A.J. Brown being the guy getting traded, you know, that would make a lot of sense. And that salary cap, that hit, it's not that bad. No, especially for a one. I think there is another team that needs wide receiver help, who has his college teammate on that team and gave up a third to get D.K. Meccaf last year and has multiple thirds they could give up this year

to pair those two back together. Yeah, a couple thirds for A.J. Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well. Let's go to a couple of the other players. Toa Tong of Aloha, potentially on the move. Okay, to a Tong of Aloha. Obviously, we had McDaniel on earlier. They were magic together, and then we watched two almost give up his football career

on TV a bunch of times. And then who knows what happens afterwards. That ends up getting blown up to a paid. Gumpie, what is Tua's contract situation for the next team and for the Miami Dolphins, Gumpy? 99 million dead cap for us right now if we were to cut him today. But we can spread that out. It doesn't sound like anyone's trading for him either. So it's going pretty good.

You sound pretty negative there. Okay, sounds like you're about done with the Tua Tongvaloa experience there in Miami. But he's potential to move. Hey, there's another quarterback very. very accurate whenever he's in it. Does he find a home and have a second birth? Jalen Waddle potentially on the move as well. Gumps, seems like everybody has been in on Jalen Waddle for like the last two years.

Yeah, there's been like three trades made for him, but somehow he's still on the dolphin, so I'm sure we'll dial those up again. He's going to be behind that computer that is blocking his face right? Popular hit up, go. Yeah, it gums, come on. You're getting Sicilianna by the computer there, pal. That's tough. That's a tough look right there.

I like that logo back on a wall, Foxy. What's that all about? You guys really upgraded. I'll tell you what. This truck has really come together for the first time we ever did a truck show till now. This thing is night and day. It's incredible.

Shout to barcote and the trucker. He's been alive back there. I can't. Who? See Mitt over your left shoulder. It's alive. Barely. Listen.

It's crazy. They're doing some news hit here. Hey, boys, let's stand up and wave for you. Oh, yeah. Where at? Oh, here. Oh, nice.

Good to see you guys. Bunny ears. Buddy ears. 39 years. For the combine bond. Oh, he's waving. you guys what channel so i can tell my mom to watch yeah we don't know if we're back sorry all right it's great to be back is that w t hr what is that t hr moose ears mooseers do you watch any of the

other shows okay yeah yeah every day dude it was fun i did i did i literally did and i just watched those shows and i'm like holy felt very similar to this one shit yeah the people that like this show to absolutely despise our show. I mean, they have to absolutely hate. And I read it, I hear it, I see it, I appreciate it. Got a lot of text from people asking how long we're taking off, thought I was a hard worker, okay? Some people I think we're excited for us to be back in their lunch time routine.

We are thankful and lucky to be here. The Combine is obviously going to electrify. John Schneider, who might go down as greatest general manager in the history of the NFL. That's how it right now is Bill Belichick. That's right now. That title right now is Bill Belichick. And he was our first. Tope, how you doing, brother?

Good luck out there, dude. Are you guys looking for anything? You're not looking for anything, right? You're not looking for anything, right? We're live right now, so don't say anything that's on the record. It's good to see you, though, Tope. Are you guys looking for anything right now or no? Always just, yeah, I like that.

Hall of Fame Special Teams coach right there. Appreciate you, man. Spagnola. Yep. Reed. Yep. Tob, right? Yeah.

I don't want to get it wrong. holy shit. Oh, did you. But someone else. I was halfway through. I was just in Naples. No, no, no, you had it. You had it.

You sold it well, then. Yeah. But I had to back off it a little bit. I'm like, that's tough. That's interesting. I mean, that's interesting. I mean, they were horrendous this year. That's coming off.

Hall of Famer. So I hold a hall of fame. I say his name. My name is Bill Johnson, though. We had someone on a dude. He's called him. Tom. He's a legend.

One time. Yeah, we call him the wrong name. Yeah. And then there's another special team's guy, he got Colt Anderson there. a member of the fourth down army with the Indianapolis Colts. That's my former pump protector right there. That man right there.

Who is? Hey, Barry Coat! Stay away from that electromagnetic thing. He's out there with the Niners as well. Substation. Hey, Baron, I'll be running. All right, a couple of news. We've got to hit before we get out of here.

Trent Williams and 49ers, John Lynch, talk to the press. He said that's going to get down off feeling good. I'll tell you what. We'll see. Trent Williams would get a lot of calls if... He would get a ton. If that was going anywhere. We saw John Lynch walk by.

His off seasons are always filled. with something. They mentioned how the IUC thing can finally take place and kind of have a resolution because the way the contract was set up, they'll do a post-6-1 designation once the new league year starts.

They'll be able to move on from IUC. Before that, I mean, it was Jennings before that. It was Kiddle before that. I mean, there was just, brought parity before that. It was, they just, whenever you're good, now granted, they have not won the Super Bowl.

So that will always be held over their head. They've been an elite football team for a long time with a lot of talent. So that means every offseason, that guy is in the middle of the trenches with something. some pillar player is one. This would be the biggest one, we think personally.

When you look at the stats from their team with Trent playing and without Trent playing, it's a vastly different ballgame. And Trent knows that, obviously. And this might be the last big one that Trent Williams gets here. Oh, yeah, and they've got to go too because you're talking about approach from the outside. Now the Super Bowl champions in their division. You've got the Rams, the other NFC finalists. It's like, hey, if they don't get it done soon, people are going to be panicking.

Okay, Panthers play caller this year will be Brad Edzick. Congratulations to him. David Canales, passing those things ever. We'll be talking to Dan Morgan, I believe, the general manager of the Panthers here. That's becoming an annual thing. And as we remain here at the Combine, we would like to say how thankful we are that we're allowed to kind of do this. Yeah. You know, a lot of the people that have covered the Combine for a while just kind of put a couple director seats up and just kind of put like an iPhone and kind of do their thing.

the fact that Indianapolis has allowed us to utilize this stage and the fact that the NFL and ESPN have helped us kind of make this a massive thing, which it is. There's a lot of dreams about to come true in these fields out here. The NFL season has officially begun here in Indianapolis. Hour three will be on digital. Sports centers on the other side. Be a friend, tough, friend, something nice.

My change of life. We'll see you tomorrow from the Combine. Goodbye. I feel like I hit it there. Yeah. That's the first time in a while. Yeah. I thought about that.

Woke up. I passed out in sun. was getting burnt, woke up, thought about just like completely missing a, just like seven seconds. The worst is early. Yeah, because then you sit there and look like an idiot. Yeah, you're not sure. That was what I woke up to, was me staring.

Good hour. All right, let's get to a break. On the other side, John Schneider's joining us. And we also have Bob Sala joined us. Wow. He was walking by with Dayball earlier. Yeah, he looked huge. Jacked?

Yeah. Dayball. Both of them. I'm excited to see. I'm excited to see. Coach Bob Sala with the program. I'm excited to see how this goes. Because he has certainly hurt us.

Yeah, I just hope he doesn't choke slam me. Yeah, because the crow and the eagle thing, remember? Uh-huh. But we know DeBahs. We know DeBah enjoys us, so he probably passed that along. Yeah, and Dayball, similar situation when he was at the Giants, we had to say things. He got it. He knew it.

Liam Kohn has said that to us before. Where's he at? You guys got to say what you got to say. It's like, yeah, we don't actually. I haven't seen him walk around anywhere. Yeah, he's not doing it. Set in precedent. an iPhone game.

Not working, huh? Flappy Bird. Yeah. Great game. They had to get rid of that because too many people got addicted. It's kidding. I love it.

You been watching any? We'll talk about this later. Oh, yeah. I've been watching stuff. Love is buying. This guy's watching Love is buying. Dude. I heard it's in Ohio, Cincinnati cast.

They did Columbus. Yeah, a lot of A.J. Hawks on there, surprise. Got a jerseys? No, no, just people like them. Ohio State. Columbus got some interesting stuff going on. What's that?

A lot of falls. Let's go to the break. We'll be back on the other side. All the buildings. Yeah. That was my favorite part of the whole entire thing. That little interaction. Hey, why don't you shut the fuck up?

I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna fucking kill you. I can't believe that was real. Yeah, I can't believe that. There's a lot of things in there where it's like, okay, this is obviously the saddest thing that I've ever. Sure. But wow, this is a lot of info.

And then what's next now? Good luck to everybody in the real world figuring that out. We're going to continue to do sports over here. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're back on the other side. Take fight. I like the confidence, okay?

First couple hours, you guys were a little scared. Didn't want to really step on it. Didn't want to do a hard time. Didn't want to go for it. You're still on vacation a little bit. That one was spectacular. And I think the reason why AJ Hawk, Boston Connor, Tone Diggs, the reason why it was so great is because we are literally in the presence of greatness.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, is a man who might go down as the greatest general manager in the history of the NFL. It's built two champions in the same organization. Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Seattle Seahawks, Super Bowl champion, John Schneier. Yeah. Hey, John. Sir. Great to see you. Wow.

That's pretty sweet. Absolutely pleasure. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I don't think you're supposed to handshake a forearm tag. Can you show that real quick? How many GM's got four-arm tats?

I don't think a lot of them. Omar does. Omar Colin? Yeah. He's got an ass tat, too. Yeah. Heard's Elmer Fudd with a gun. He's saying, come out of there.

Icey luck. All right. Let's move along. John, thank you for congratulations. It's awesome. Thanks for having me, buddy. AJ, thank you for the booking. So you guys know each other from Green Bay, obviously.

2006 draft, brother. Okay, so. Vernon Davis. or AJ Hawk, what are you getting to do? He said it. Tight ends pretty fast now, right? He's got to Ohio. Look at this guy's face.

And we heard he made it really easy for everybody to get information on his medical history throughout the entire process, too. Completely. Yeah. It was the white tights with carpenter that did it too.

Yeah. Who are these guys? The full jumpsuit. Are they? Yeah. They like each other. Yeah. They still do, by the way.

They still. They just spent three or four days on the ship out of the sea. Yeah, you know, I'm not going to get into that. The Kaukai Cruz. Not going to get into that. Buckeye Cruz is a good thing. We don't want to make fun of it.

We've made fun of it in years past. We do not want to do that. And there's nothing to make fun about your resume, brother, that you're stacking together. Congratulations on building it twice. And we are talking about that. You obviously, in the middle of the entire process, understanding you're just trying to win, trying to win. Can you take me to the decision of moving on from Pete Carroll?

Because Pete Carroll then comes out afterwards and says, I fought like hell for my job. Did not make it easy, I think, for the Seattle Seahawks after Pete Carroll left. You decided to move on. Him saying he still wanted to be there, I think kind of a tough thing with how beloved Pete Carroll is. You sitting in that pocket making that decision. Did you have to re-envision what the team was? Were you already envisioning what the team had to look like?

When you make that pivotal moment there, what was going through your mind for the Seattle Seahawks? Well, Pete and I had great discussions all through that process. You know, we did a lot of special things together. And, you know, it was just time for both sides. And, you know, Jody Allen, Pete, they had their conversations and, you know, it was like, hey, Jody just entrusting, entrusting us to move forward and, you know, start a new, just start a new era with a different leadership group. And yeah, I mean, no, I can't take you through every step because it was like, it was 72 hours of like, am I going to fire? What's going on here? I don't need to know.

Am I going to hire a head coach or like, what's shaking here? And yeah, she just, you know, she had the confidence in us. And obviously, you know, Pete wanted to coach again. And but it just, it's just like everybody just, it was just kind of, it's just kind of time. Yes, absolutely. And it's a hard decision to make, but there's only a few people that are put in positions to make those decisions. So the thing that I'm so impressed by is you sitting in the pocket, take it in in the shins and then moving on kind of with your blinders on, understanding that you're going to have success. Is how you felt.

McDonald, this guy seems to be a whiz. Yeah. I mean, it's a whiz kid. I saw him yesterday. the women's form, got a chance to shake his hand and tell him like how impressed I am with him as a leader and everything. What did you see from him and what did you think about the culture that he was going to be able to build for you? Like if that makes sense. Yeah, so it was that process, we were actually a little late that week. So we weren't able to speak with Mike,

you know, because they had the buy. And so it was really, really trusting people like good friends of mine, like Dan Morgan and I are very close. I know you guys know Dan well. Chad Brinker, Rich McKay, guys that have been able to interview him already. And then just saying, like, hey, like, your guys' personalities would work out great. No ego, all ball, like, let's rock. And when we interviewed him, it was just very clear. It was two hours that felt like 20 minutes. So it's like, you know, clear, concise, intelligent.

And then where are we taking ball? Like, if we want to be the best sports league organization in 10 years, which is what Jody kind of challenges it on, like, what's that going to look like? and so it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it became clear because there was some great candidates in there and you know we interviewed about 14 guys but I really think like okay where this guy is gonna where where he can't see like what are my blind spots like where am I falling behind and you know with our staff and how can we mix our groups together and then you know what kind of staff can he build and and uh and take us into the future and you know we

We had played there. We had played in Baltimore, and it was one of those games. I know you guys have been through this. I'm not sure if you guys play professional football. USXFL, USXFL. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kind of like Brandon Arbery. Kind of that situation. Cup of coffee. Middle backer. Yeah, yeah. By the way, where's Debaot? The ride, is he a Rinefire fan?

He's born in Frankfurt, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Debaugh, yeah. Yeah, Debaugh, yeah. Yeah, Debutt's off until March. Believe me. Until March, I forget. Yeah, March 2nd.

He gave me a date. He said, hey, He's got a daughter equestrian now. He's got a golfing daughter. He's got a volleyball daughter now. I mean, he is. He's a baller. One of the greatest athletes I've ever encountered.

We had played in Baltimore. And you know, you have that feeling. You're like, we just got shook. You walk out of there. I don't know. You know, we just, we left Baltimore that day. Like, what just happened, you know? And, you know, talking to Gino, talking to Drew Locke, you know, after the game.

And it's like, they were just like, this is what's stuff. It's different here. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. Okay, let's talk about the quarterback position because you had to make a decision. There was reports that you offered Gino Smith a contract. He didn't love the contract.

He ends up getting one in Las Vegas. Him and Pete kind of battle. This is fun. I'm starting to sweat already, AJ. He needs these questions here. Yeah, yeah. You know, you want to be pit out, brother, don't you? So we've been following the Seahawks.

I feel like we have really followed along with your guys's journey. Mostly because, not just mostly because, but AJ and everybody that's ever talked about you was like, Schneider is a guy. Like he is an actual guy out there. So we respect. everything that you've been able to build. The decision to bring in Sam Donald, though, is

I mean, what, monumental now at this point with how it all works out? How does that decision go? And what did you see from Sam that's like, holy hell? This guy won 14 games and somehow was available for us to sign in this entire thing. Well, the combine has really changed since you guys came out. There's a lot more a lot more conversations with agents and with the landscape's going to look like. And that's obviously

what you guys experienced with the medical. in the testing and everything, but really, you know, behind the scenes like, all right, you know, where are we at from negotiation standpoint, like, if we have to pivot, is it going to be A, B, or C. And getting all the coaches on the same plane and, you know, deciding, like, are we going to, are we going to be able to do this in a concise manner? And so last year at this time, I mean, yeah, we were, we're talking Gino. It wasn't going great. The Raiders had tried to acquire a different quarterback that didn't come to fruition. They were interested in Gino. We were just able to pivot in that three-day window and get ready to roll. And the cool thing was all of our relationships,

Kevin O'Connell, Clint Kubiak, all these guys that are good friends of ours that have been around Sam, like describing him was like exactly like great leader, real guy. And, you know, obviously competitor and he's not like, he doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve. and his teammates love him. If you got anything to say about my quarterback, if you got anything to say about my team, you got anything to say about this city. We got two words for you.

Fuck you. That was so awesome. That was honestly, you love that? You have to. After we lost to the Rams down there in L.A., I literally, like, stood there. Everybody was walking through the door, and I was like, you guys, it's like,

we just, we almost won that game. Like, everybody disregards that. Like, you know, it was a rough game for a lot, for some people, a lot of people. But, like, the guy's resilience and the way they responded around Sam, it was like, we got some cool stuff going on here. Yeah, it felt special. I was like, let's go. And like, Ernest, like, took it, you know, when we got in the locker room, you know, obviously he took it to a different level. Got to have that, though.

AJ's got a question for you. Yeah, I guess your time here at the Combine, you've been coming for a long time. I guess what's it like now? what are you looking for when you, I guess, interview these players, when you watch them on the field? Like, does all the stuff on the field matter as much as some people make it out to be? Like, I know, okay, let's just use 225 bench, for example. I said it doesn't matter. I said, yeah, it's garbage.

I remember whenever I did mine, I think I got 24 or something, and I was all pissed off. I was all pissed. And I had one gym and he goes, what are you all? What are you doing? What's your attitude about? I was like, I only got 24 reps. I thought I was going to get 30. He's like, I don't care about that.

Like, he instantly, and it gave me like a sense of relief a little bit, even though I was still pissed. I didn't get 30. Like, is there something, like, what is it? What matters? Yeah, what does matter here? What are you looking for? What really matters is like eye in the sky and then the person, the competitor. That's kind of what we've.

Like they got a love ball. You want to, they need to confirm what they love ball. They got to be, they got to be smart, tough, reliable football players. And then down here, it's really like, you know, these chunks now. That's why I say it was different when you guys were coming out. Like, it's like, okay, you got these interviews over here that we, you know, record and we're able to study that. and then you got the canned one. You know, it's like, you know, like, what's your favorite cereal in the morning?

Like that sort of stuff. Like, Freddie Babelso. You can watch all that kind of stuff, and you can study all that. But really watching the guys, how they interact with the other guys on the field, how they're taking to the coaching going on out here. But then it's really like obviously the medical, you know, the whole thing started because the Jets drafted a receiver and, you know, was legally blind in one eye. So that's how the whole combine started.

So they get the medical goes. Classic Jets. The medical is really. What year was that? Two years ago. Yeah, exactly. 2022. But yeah, no, I think just really, like, at the end of the day, the guys knowing, like, the character, the character of the person.

And we just emphasize, like, the competitor. And you don't have to have, like, a final, like, as an area scout, the guys are responsible for their areas. You don't have to have, like, your hard, you don't have to stick to your hard and fast grade that you had in the fall. It's more important when we get that, that right. at least like the week before the draft so we can set the board and then be able to just strategize and then know who the person is

that we're bringing in the building to be able to help them out and grow. So like passing or culture test is obviously a qualifier. Absolutely. Yeah, it feels like that should be for everybody. I don't know if that is the case. It's certainly working for you.

1977 is when that happened. Okay. So it's been happening for a long time over there with that team. Same team though. He's blinded in one eye. He fooled him that. Yeah, he wore sunglasses. Yeah.

That guy's a good actor. Phenomenal receiver too. Crazy. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Jericho, got her. I have a question for you. I have a question for you.

You said that the standard thing is what cereal do you have in the morning? What other stuff? Do you like appliance questions? Like, what are the right? I said fruity pebbles immediately strictly because on the back of the fruity pebbles box, there's always like some fun little quizzes. So I feel like I'm getting better and enjoying a phenomenal breakfast. And it always, always tastes good.

Throughout many different government policies of what you're allowed to put into food and what you're not allowed to put into food, we're learning a lot about that as well. Fruitie Pebbles has remained. Cocoa puffs, change their ingredients. They weren't as much cocoa anymore. Yeah. Like cocoa pebbles, I think the same exact thing. Cinnamon toast crunch.

Cinnamon toast crunch, OG. O-G. Cinnamon toast crunch. If it's a little cold outside, treat that like tomato soup, cinnamon toast crunch always going to be there for you. What are the answers that you get in those questions? And what other questions do you... What kind of give?

Because that is, trying to find out who a person is, all this game is. Do you mess with them? Do you mess with them on purpose, try to get them pissed off? Five pairs of scissors. No, we used to do a little bit more. I used to, when I was with the Packers, I was like, you know, I was the younger guy, so I was like the guy that had to ask all the, you know, the partying questions, the marijuana questions and stuff, you know, so I'll never forget we had a running back in here.

Were you around Mark Hatley? That's the name of the running guy? Yeah, no, it's not the name of the running. I'm not going to make the name of the running back. It was this poor guy, like, it failed several drug tests, and Mark Hadley, God rest of soul, he worked for the, he ran the bears for a minute with my boss in Green Bay. And so I'm asking the questions about, like, why he failed? this drug test, you know, like, again, you know, and my man had this high accent. Mark highly's like, shoot, why'd you do that son? I don't get it. Like, why'd you do? He kind of

sound like Ballard. Oh, yeah. He likes his guys. Yeah, he kind of had that, you know, that Southern drawl to him, you know, and my man's sitting on the couch and he's kind of panicked, and he's like, are you sitting on his chair? And he goes, he's like, I'm sorry, Mark, I was just on the couch, and I was next. He's honest. He's honest. Get that guy. He's super honest.

Team player. He had a runnerback in the room one day, and our running back coach is like, hey, you consider yourself to be a better inside runner or outside runner right now? And he's like, hey, coach, have you seen an indoor facility yet? Our new indoor facility is amazing. I never run outside. It's like, I like this guy too.

Outside the box. We're just trying to test your brain. Connor has a question. Wow. Any more of those that come to your mind right now? We love to hear. John, you don't know this, but I'm a Patriots fan, so you can go eat shit. It was very fun to watch that game now.

I did watch. I was there a couple years ago, too, brother, so. Exactly, yeah, okay, so kind of one of the same me and you. You guys are even. But, yeah, exactly, we're even, sure. But one thing I did watch, and it was actually the only thing I watched from your parade, was the speech you gave at the end, just talking about Jesus, talking about, you know, kind of the angels from the team.

Yeah. You throwing out little tiny baby Jesus is on the parade. They were tiny baby Jesus. They were like little baby Jesus. He was a grown man. He had a beard. Yeah, yeah, he had a beer, but a miniature. Excuse me.

Mini Jesus. Mini Jesus. Mini Christ. Yes. It was very cool. Taledagan nights. How do you envision? It wasn't a tiny baby Jesus.

Yeah. It was a miniature size of real grown-up. 33-year-old. Jesus before. 33-year-old Jesus as a... There it is. We actually got some... Let's he look like as a 20-year-old.

Did we have a cut? He cut. He's shredded? Yeah, like, you don't even want to... Well, he's always shredded. Yeah, yoked up. But speaking of, while I'm watching this, as much as it hurt, it did feel like storybook for the Seattle Seahawks.

Like you listen out of all the players that, you know, had lost loved ones, everything like that. And you mentioned the Rams game as kind of a locker room where it felt different. It felt special. Was there any other points where it felt like, hey, this is part of a storybook ending like you could envision the Super Bowl, the storybook finish, and knowing it was coming. You know, as a Patriots fan, I said 28 to 3 against Atlanta felt better than 9-0 against Seattle just because of how dominant and how great your team was. But inside that locker room, whether it's training camp, whether it was through kind of those tough trials throughout

the season where, you know, some of your players are losing guys, was there a lot of a moment where you kind of felt that, you know, storybook coming together and knowing that, hey, this is going to end in glory in the end? Yeah, I think Mike's, our head coach, Mike's, emphasis on the connectedness. Like, we all grow up playing the sport because it's the ultimate team sport. You learn so many lessons in life. And he just did a great job, like, you know, turning the corner last year. He comes in his first year. He wins 10 games. And he's like, what do I, how do I, like, how do we take this to a different level? And it was really like, the connectness of the team and the guys.

And so yeah, we had a lot of, we had a lot of, you know, like Charles Cross lost his father, Ernest lost his father, Jake Bobo lost his father. I lost my father in the day after the Houston game. And I just felt like everybody was just really in this place of like playing for each other. And when you're in that space, like there's just no, like there's, it's pretty hard to,

that's a hard team to beat when guys are playing together like that. Like, you know, the, the, the, the, the, um, Super Bowl 48 team. Those guys were, those guys were super swaggy. They loved each other. They played for each other. It was like us against the world.

These guys are more like, I don't care about the other team. It's all about us. We're just going to go out there and play together and have a blast. And that's, that's the way it felt. It wasn't like that one, it was that Rams game, yes. Well, the locker room was like afterwards like,

hey, we're going to. How about after the Colts game, you guys? Phil Rivers almost fucking good. Hold on to it. Yes. That was pretty, that was a little hairy there for a minute, you know. Yeah, it was awesome there for a minute. Yeah, so as a Colts fan, and as national sports show, a host, I guess, is what we are at this stage.

We're called regional just a few years back, which is pretty cool. But now we're able to do it. We've been paying attention to your team and your defense. Like, you guys go to Pittsburgh and just, I mean, that shit was. It was second half. That was. And your road warriorness of your team, like what you guys were able to do. and the defense was just everywhere.

I mean, Houston was obviously getting a lot of love. A lot of conversation for the defense, as they should. Patriots obviously defense was good. Nobody really talked about it. Your defense was not getting hyped up by a lot of people at all. Phil Rivers goes in there, battles you guys. Comes down to a field goal. Jason's unbelievable.

I don't even want to get into that guy. I never fucking missed. 10 million. 10 million, Brandon Aubrey, you're going to have to pay him. 15 million, maybe 12, 13, maybe 14, maybe 15 million. A guy wanted to see a ball. Former players, play the man. Hey, really?

Thanks for the flash, Gordon. Yes, please. There's no salary cap. There is it, especially for a kicker if you got one. Figure it out. But on that note, I don't think your defense got any respect, really. Like, I don't think your defense got respect. And the reason why I'm saying that is because I'm like,

Phil Rivers almost just beat the Seattle Seahawks. And I was impressed because of the Seattle Seahawks, how good you are. I don't think you guys were getting any national recognition at all. Could you sense that with the team? Did the team know that? Do you guys care about that? I know it's outside noise or whatever? I think I don't think so.

I think that, you know, they signed Phil. that week and what's what's different the you know like the balls coming i saw i'm playing the citrus bowl years ago like here it comes balls coming out like you're not going to be going to get to the guy nobody talked about your defense being so good like i was so pumped for phil um because phil you're talking about the reputation yeah of your defense i don't think anybody was talking about it took a little bit yeah because like phil people are like phil rivers almost beat this deep it's like complete opposite yeah phil rivers completed some balls against this defense is more so the convo nobody's really talking about that pretty special uh football players

Philip Rivers. Yes. Yes. It's pretty dang good. Yeah, absolutely. But no, I think they, no, they don't have that same, that's what I'm saying. They don't have that same us against the world chip on their shoulder that that Super Bowl 48 team had. You know, Richard would always be like, why don't, you know, why don't you draft me in the fourth round?

Like, it's the fifth round. Like, Marshawn's like, you know, mad at me because we didn't trade for him earlier, you know? Like, they were like, they were just like mad at everybody, you know? and they played like that. You know, these guys, I don't think they really, I think they just, they were just really self-confident. And, you know, they trust the coaching. They love the scheme.

They love each other. And they just flew round balling. Fun group to watch, man. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, your first two picks last year. Gray Zabel probably could have been offensive rookie of the year. Nick Eam and Worry could have been defensive rookie of the year. Pretty good.

Yeah, pretty good. But, like, the difference between them, Zabel small school guy, but then he got to the Senior Bowl, looked really, really good at Senior Bowl. Eamon Worry had one of the best combines of all time. So, like, is that just, like, when Zabel goes to Senior Bowl and you see competition, like, okay, that's a check mark? When Eamon Worry comes here and just is the freakiest of freak athletes? Is that a check mark? Like, when do you know in the process, these guys are your guys?

If that makes sense. Yeah, no, that's a good, really good question. Gray was exactly what you said going to the Senior Bowl, watching them be able to compete with the best of the best. And then, yeah, that's a, that's a box checked. I'm not sure if you guys know Steve Hutchinson very well, but Steve was on. Steve, Steve was working with us and doing, you see offensive line consulting and stuff. But he loved them and, you know, we're really like trying to get to that back to that,

like, you know, oh man, like the old school offensive line groups. It's hard to keep these guys together and have continuity. And he loved them, went down there, senior bowl. Nick was in a totally different box. This guy is like, you know, like the athletic freak. And so how do you, that's like, okay, like, let's bring Nick into the building on a 30 visit. Haven't spent time with the coaches. You know, like, can we, are we going to be able to use this guy in a manner that, you know, we, you know, personnel guys and coaches.

You got to like, come together, right? You're like, yeah, this guy's like six foot three and a half. He runs four to eight. And you should be able to coach him up. Yeah, yeah. But you can't just take the guy if you don't have the buy-in from the. the coaching staff and so brought him in total buy-in here's me the role you know he got hurt like on the like shoot fourth player of the opener yeah and he was i think he had already had two tackles

so we missed him for who got hurt super bowl week it was him his ankle remember they showed him opener sorry first weekly opener against san francisco he got hurt like on the fourth play and he had like two tackles already and you're just watching the guy like holy cow this is going to work yeah yeah there was the ankle scare yeah the super God helps those who can't help themselves, brother. You know, like, here comes the 6-foot-3-guy that runs 4-3-6 and ends up being a good football player, you know. Everybody's like, well, he's, you know, he's, you know, he's, you know, there's some

maturity things that's going to take him a minute, you know, like he's, he's, he's, one month older than my youngest son, like, let's get this guy a break, like, you know, like, did you see what he did out here? I was pretty good. I was a third. 43-in's vertical. This guy's the greatest GM of all time. We got a guy 6-3 through 40 running a 4-1, yeah.

Yeah. GM's really good. Yeah, we just got your butt off, yeah. AJ has the last question for you, John. We appreciate your time. Yeah, you talk about personnel guys and coaches. I guess how do you know as a GM and as your time as a GM has it changed how much you are involved, how much you do meddle in the day-to-day?

I know after it's got to be a good feeling coming down from the box when you're ahead in the fourth quarter to watch the game from the sidelines. But I guess we talk about Jerry Jones a lot doing pressers in the locker room. Like how do you know where you should and shouldn't go? and what do you like that balance with the coaching staff? Yeah, the game day stuff is really just for me personally, it's just trying to make the guys feel as confident as they possibly can, the coaches, the players, knowing that we're loving them up,

we're supporting them. I know my space. I know when to like try to, you know, pump somebody up or kind of, you know, give them some crap, you know, if they're feeling pretty good about themselves and stuff like that. But a lot of people come down, like people think that you come down to be on the sidelines and be seen, if you don't hit that, if you don't hit that, If you don't hit that elevator by a certain time, you're up there with, you know, you're not coming down from like the last, like, 20 minutes after the game.

So you got to get down there. And I'm so short, I have a hard time seeing, like, what's going on on the field. So I never, I'm like, I'm always asking offensive coordinator. He's like, how do you call a game from the sidelines? Because I can't see nothing. Yeah. I can't see anything. I'd love to be up top and watch that.

But, no, I think just knowing your space. You ever tell coach, hey, this guy, you know, why isn't this guy better? He's 6-3-2-45, you know, put him in more or something? That's personal. You ever tell coaches? Yeah, during a game called on the red phone, yeah. That'd be sweet. No, no, no, no, no, no.

No, we do that behind closed doors. We're all just talking. Like, hey, like, seriously, this guy, you know, maybe he deserves more playing time. Have we thought about this? We thought about that. And just, just open conversation. When Pete and I got together in 2010,

we just said, like, no walls. Like, he'd worked with the Jets and got let go with the Jets. Got to go with the Patriots. I got to go with Marty Schottonheimer and the Redskins. and we're like, if we ever have a chance to do this, we're going to do like no walls, no egos, all together, all ball, that's it. And then it's not. Yeah, being everybody says that, though.

It's easier said than, though. Yeah, everybody says that. Like, actually executing that is. Well, when ego's, when ego's come in, yeah, when it's like, hey, let's buy a guy, you know, I scouted this guy, we should take this guy. Or, you know, like, when you hear people say, well, I stood on a table for that guy, it's like the worst thing you can hear is a personnel guy. Like, really?

You stood on a table for the guy? So I'll actually make guys do it. Oh, really? You love this guy. Won't you standing on the table? Hey, whatever the hell you're doing, it's working, dude. So congratulations. Appreciate you guys.

I hope you enjoy it all. Are you staying? You'll watch all the workouts, obviously. You'll do that because a lot of people... I will watch the workouts on film now. Yeah. Yeah, that seems to be the new thing. The meetings matter.

Okay, I want to see these people, talk to these people, try to get as much as possible. And then with how good the NFL network and everybody does with a take. It's like we can watch a shit. Yeah, Jason Light was we were talking last year, and he was getting ready to split. And I'm like, you're leaving it ready? He's like, when you're at the dome, do you watch the TV or do you watch the field?

I'm like, I watch the TV. Dumbotron, yeah. I'm going home to watch it on my couch. Hey, longest season of anybody. Super Bowl run, congratulations. You got some shit to figure out, though, huh? A lot of stuff. Yeah.

Whoa, I almost cost. Yeah, a lot of stuff. You're a lot of. Don't do that. That's disgusting. All good stuff. All good stuff. A lot of shit, though.

When you win, that's kind of what comes with it. You've already been there, obviously. How are we out of getting money? Where are we spending money? You got to change, you know, coaching staff? No, you just pay everybody, right? I guess now with the former players. Yeah, the cap's going up.

Yeah, did you see the cap went up? Yeah, I saw it. I'm not sure if you saw him. Darnold deserves a raise, though, wanted you say? Yeah, I think so. I've heard all these things. I like hear it in my sleep. I mean, Jackson's Fifth and Jigman did just say he's looking forward to being the highest

paid receiver. That's a real thing. Which, by the way, which. Which. Yeah. And then if we talk about highest paid player in the league, I mean, Dixon caused a turnover in the championship game. Oh, yeah.

How good is he, buddy? Is he like, right? Like, yeah. Like, I don't scout punters, you know what I mean? Well, you did. You got him. But holy cow, this guy's like. So all the Australian guys.

Okay, Darren Bennett back in the day with the Chargers, I think he kind of came from the Osier Rules football thing. But, like, Dixon having the success that he had, I think opened the door for, like, everybody else being like, let's try to get this fucking, I don't think there's another one. I think Dixon is, no matter what continent he's from. Have you seen him do the side thing?

Yeah, the side one did the banana ball. And then he, he, the one that he got the turnover on, who's that against? LA off the shoulder. On the sideline or whatever? I sent him a DM, I'm like, yo, what ball was that? He was like, just sky, bro. He brought that thing down from the sky on purpose. He can drive it, he can angle it. He can do

like different spins with it. He's unbelievable. What was the guy's name we had in Green Bay when you were playing? Tim Mass. there. Yeah, okay. He got in the hot tub with Al Harris. Yeah. Yeah, like there's no, no clothes on. And Al's like, hey, man, we don't, Tim did? We don't do that. We don't do that. I was not there. I didn't see that. AJ, you told him to do it. Yeah, AJ, kind of showed him the road. I would love to see Al's face with Tim walked into that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sam Rams

will tell you all about it. But he could, that guy could run, run and do the drop kick. Yeah, Tim was a great athlete, soccer player. Wow. Tim, really good guy. He came to the coach first. Was he from Australia? No, Tim's from Kentucky. Nope, different guy then. New Zealand. This guy was from New Zealand or Australia. He was with us for like maybe.

In Green Bay? Yeah, for maybe. Dave Loney. Dave Loney was an Australian punter there in the off season. Was it Loney? Yeah, off season, because I still talk to him. Okay, not Tim as thing. Thank God.

What's clear Tim's name? Tim is a great dude. Tim is not getting in any hod in his name. It was Loney. He was not a tub without Harris. Yeah, that is not Tim Manny. Definitely an Australian guy or New Zealand. Yeah, Dave Loney is an Australian guy.

He can see Dave doing it. He's like six four big scrappy. He actually did that too. But so talented, man, like. Yeah, he did that to Alpha. Do you back in? Do you back down the stairs, though? No, I think you get a front.

Put your cheeks right now. His face is back in. I think you front down. I think you will front. Or you dip. You might, you might dip first. Test the one. Yeah, test a lot.

And get it. You guys are making me nervous, boy. You're the one who told the story. What are you talking about? We wear our trucks. You just want the circle. You're fine. Yeah, you're like, do whatever you want to do.

You got a lot of leash. James all time. Tim Mastey. And you might get a new owner. Was fully closed in the hot tub. Okay, okay. Oh, good call there, Tone. So they're saying 10 billion, but the Miami Dolphins were allegedly worth 10 billion like three

years ago. So who knows what that number is going to become. Shout to the Allen family. Shout to Jody, by the way. That was such a cool moment for, yeah. Shout out Jody. Hell yeah. We'll clap.

And I spoke at the women's forum with Carly and Kaelin. And it's like seeing a woman owner up there take the Lombardt was cool. Yeah. That was a very cool moment, especially with how much the NFL as, you know, investing in women becoming a bigger piece of football as a whole, starting with flag football in high school, trying to get it, what's that called, sanctioned? Yeah. And then trying to build it in.

Sam Rappaport with the Olympics coming. It was like really cool to see that. And I don't know Jody personally. I heard she's very tight. She doesn't have a lot of. Yeah, she's awesome. Not a lot of anonymous sources coming out of Jody's office. Like there's very rarely any leaks or anything like that.

No. Feel like she's been a great leader of the ship. $10 billion is what they're talking about. How much are you involved in all that? because I assume you're going to be the carryover to the next ownership. I'm not. I'm not. I wanted to get with George Payton down here because they went through it in Denver. And I just, I don't know what's coming. I don't have the experience with it. So I need somebody to coach me up on it.

And what that looks like. I have been, you know, Tracy and my wife and I have been blessed to be able to work with, you know, a team, the Packers that doesn't have an owner. Lamar Hunt, Daniel Snyder, Paul Allen, now. now Jody, so very, you know, all very different people. So, yeah, I'm just, uh, well, you, you being there is upping the value, brother. And maybe you renegotiate as soon as they get there. Yeah, he's smart. Trying to get your money.

Another former employer comment. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Go get it, man. Yeah. Do it. By the way, you're welcome.

Yeah. Appreciate you. If you like to put this little public pressure on this new ownership, okay. Oh, welcome to the league. You just want to get rid of your general manager? Okay. Why don't we get this guy a new deal? Let's lock him down 10 years.

100 million dollars. Let's win a couple more Super Bowls. We appreciate the hell out of you. Hey, man, I appreciate you. I'm so glad you guys had Mike on. It was so fun for me to be able to turn it on. Like, hey, when are you going to be on, man? McCarthy.

Mike McCarthy? Yeah. Big Mike. It was so cool. How about him back in the game? I know. It was so awesome. I'm happy for it.

Just had lunch with him. How was it? How is it? He's a jolly? Yeah. Yep. Yep. He can see his neighborhood from his office.

That's sweet. That is really, really cool. I can't do the accent like you guys do, though. Yeah, it's just Pittsburgh people. It helps when you were born there. I guess everybody has flaws. I guess everybody does have flaws. This is fun.

I appreciate you guys. Yeah. Well, you come on again. Yeah, come back home. Yeah, we need you back. You're here tomorrow? I'll tell you what. Are you busy during the draft?

Draft spectacular. Yeah, no, I guess you got to win a world championship to get on the show. I've been, like, texting with AJ. I can see all these other. Oh, is that right, AJ? Is that right, AJ? all these other GMs on her, I'm like, Jay, I thought, I thought we were guys. I thought, you know.

I've thrown your name out many times. That is not true. Don't lie. That is a lie. AJ has been gatekeeping. Come on, then he's too busy. Many leatherbound books. You're the man.

Ladies and gentlemen, the gentleman, the Seattle C hugs. John Schneider. Now, before you leave. Oh, we can sling it. Come on, boss. Who are you? You can throw? Your arm wears?

Take that headset off. 100,000. Hank you. 100,000. 100,000,000, 100,000, 100,000. Happened to me. 100,000, $100,000 donation charity here, John. Go on, John.

Go on, John. Come around this way. No, no, no, no. All right. You're a lefty? You're a lefty? No, no. Okay.

He's ready. How old are you? 54. You look good. You look good. You're great. For a Catholic, too? I was going to say, it's unbelievable.

Okay, 54. How often do you throw football, active, everything like that? Not very, no, two tour in lay rooms, so no, not very much in all, I'll say this would be very impressive. $100,000 you're able to make it in the hole. John Shire, Super Bowl winning. General Manager, two different eras in Seattle. Backwards hat?

Oh, no. All right. This one's good, though. You got this one. You got two more. You got two more opportunities. You got two more opportunities. Like you're on a mine.

I like that you want Stallone. That's a professional miss. Nobody will be the next Stallone. Yep. Oh, wait a minute. Last ball here now. John, this is the one. Make Sam Donald prod.

Oh, no. All right. Oh, wait, the top's on open? The top should be open. Thank you so much. Hey, will you join us draft night after you make a pick? Well, you won't make a pick. Last year.

32. Will you join us on draft night? All right, sweet. We got him on the show. At 1 a.m. Appreciate you. Great to meet you. Man.

Good luck. The top should be open. Never again versus New England. He said yeah. All right, John. I'll tell you what. That was exciting. He's good.

He's the man. He's really funny. He's a great guy. He just gave me a call, but I couldn't hear it because my headphones on. I wish I... He said, I'll see you down the road. I think he said, like, that was the best question anyone's ever asked me or something. Oh, nice.

He said that to you? Yeah, I think so. I couldn't. There's a lot of microphones up here. Somebody would have picked that up. Yeah, we'll hear that. We'll listen back. He said, like, I love you.

You know Ball to me. To you? Yeah. So I... What do you say to AJ? I know what he said. You big. You big.

He got movie lines from like four different movies. Yeah, he did. Leatherbound books. I mean, he was in there. He's really in his bag. We appreciate him. He can do whatever he wants. He wants to Super Bowl.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. Holy shit. I just see the silhouette. Yeah. Oh, my God. So big. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. The head coach of the Tennessee Titans.

Coach Robert. What a monster. Yeah. Coach. Oh. You don't want to start that. What's up, Coach? I just wanted to see.

I just want to see. I just want to see. I wouldn't be testing. Pleasure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate you guys. Strapping. Holy shit.

Hold on. I believe the general manager is here as well, right? Can he come up? Oh, I just got, sorry, I just got, ladies gentlemen, general manager, it takes you type my proganzi. Hey, Paizan, I assume, I don't want to guess too much. Are you Paizan? Is it Porganzi?

Paizan, Gazan, Parganzi. Okay, I don't want to do too much. I don't want to do too much. We've been off. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, we don't want to do too much. pissing by off my those good dapp upper coach you're fucking huge oh middle sex a little underweight you're a monster no you actually that dan campbell's a monster we've talked about you guys

all fighting uh dan campbell obviously in conversation you and leum cone almost obviously want the yeah still waiting for that joke we had a tail of the tape i'll tell you what the tail of the tape did not describe completely the silhouette that i saw over here so people that don't know. Off of the set here, there's just windows here at the stadium. So we can't see anybody's face. So I can't at least. I don't know, but everybody else. So people are walking by, and I'm just seeing silhouettes. I'm trying to guess. And I scan this thing, and then I see a mountain of a human being over here. It looks like the rock, and it's like, holy shit, that's Bob Sala. So thank you so much for coming. Mike, you as well. Thank you so much for joining us.

Congrats on the gig down there in Tennessee. You go back to San Francisco. Is it a fall back in love with football situation? Recalibrate perspective situation? How would you describe kind of that whole thing from head coach of Jets, back to D.C., now head coach again. How do you kind of calibrate it all? You know, obviously so much respect for San Francisco, and I've said it before, it's a championship organization, championship ownership. Kyle Shanahan is a championship head coach, John Lynch. The entire outfit is a championship outfit. And for me, it was more about going back to a place that, one, I recognize as a championship organization after being a head coach, because I felt like it would help me just kind of recalibrate, maybe see something that I may have missed the first time

around as a D coordinator, having the empathy of Kyle and the chair that he's in and understanding the decisions he's making to help me piece the puzzle a little bit better together. And so that if I did get another opportunity, which thank goodness, I appreciate you, Mike. Grazie. I do. I feel like I was preparing myself to bring more to the table. We've seen a lot of quarterbacks get their second chance and obviously go at it. There's a lot that comes across the table whenever you're a head coach that maybe you don't get to see.

What do you think you are kind of better suited for now with Tennessee as opposed to the first time we get to New York? New York, we followed along from outside. I'm sure you heard us follow along. It seems like there's always a lot of shit. You don't have to say that. It started in 1977. They dropped a blind guy. And that's why the medical thing, Borganzi, you know their history.

Yeah, so the Jets actually drafted a guy blind one eye. And then the next year they made it like, hey, we got at least see the medicals on everybody. That's kind of how the combine all came together. So that's 1977 jets all the way through. It's been hot oceans. So, and obviously you're there, and we all watch it, especially with how many people it is. What comes across your desk that you go, well, I did not expect to have to deal with this, or I did not want to deal this?

And how do you think that kind of changes for you now in Tennessee with the Titans organization? I think it's just all-encompassing, you know? Like, I've said it a few times that there's no handbook to the first time that you ever do anything. I'm sure your first episode is not narrowed. as good as it is now. Oh, yeah, it was terrible. It was so bad. It was so bad, Bob.

We're actually waiting for people to bring that up and hang it over our heads. But you learn through your experiences. And, you know, I'm grateful for the opportunity that I had in New York. There was a tremendous learning experience just dealing with all the different things that come to your plate as a head coach.

And there's a lot of things that happened throughout the tenure that there is no, like I said, there's no preparing for them. And, but I could say that I'm very, I'm very confident in saying that I'm more prepared now than I ever was and excited to take what I learned in New York and apply it to this new opportunity. We can't wait to watch in the AFC South. Hope you win every game, but a couple of them. We just want to see you smile again. We do.

I felt like you lost your happiness over there. You saw it. You felt it. And you were living it. So we're happy to see you back. We do love that. And for you, Paizan, obviously, Sala is a name that was up in the head coaching, like, for this coaching cycle. Hardball becomes available. Obviously, that becomes like, hey, we're doing that.

Cleveland, Kevin Stefansky. His name pops up. He gets a job immediately. I don't think I expected that, but after talking to Matt Ryan, his name immediately going, what was it about him that makes you think now is the perfect time for him to be the Tennessee Titans head coach? And what is kind of the sell for what this next version

of the Fantasy Titans is in your eyes? Yeah, I know. I've obviously had so much respect. respect for Robert here. You know, the first opportunity, really, we played them when I was in Kansas City was that 19 Super Bowl. And just seeing the way he put together that defense and the energy that they play with, the guys love playing for him, right?

So you could feel its leadership, even just watching TV sometimes, right, on the sidelines. Like, the guys love them. And you can hear it from the players. The players will tell you throughout the league. So, you know, for us, you know, we wanted to, when we went through that head coaching process, is like, we need a leader in here. Like a guy that can just take command of this place that has a presence, that has a football mind. And the more, you know, we never worked together before, but the more that, you know, we did our research.

And when we finally brought Robert in here, he was exactly what we're looking for in terms of that. Tell me about Cam Ward, because obviously Callahan was talking about how he's talking shit to somebody while I'm giving him a plate ball. And then we watched him against the coach. There's a couple throws that he makes it. It's like, I don't know how many humans can make them. that throw. Season goes the way it goes. Tell me about the future with Cam and how do you think like, you know, coach here and him are going to get along. I think perfect personality traits for each other, it feels like. I think it's going to be a perfect match and then bring Brian

Daveo in here too as the O.C. But Cam, you can see that we got the baldest. Yeah, I saw it. I saw the 22 coaches all bald. It feels like you guys are kind of Harris, but I don't want to get into it. You can see. I got to shave my head of hair. Yeah, you should. Hey, you guys, hey. Bion. AMC South, I think that thing has to go. I think that is something to think about.

We haven't had in 11 years. I don't know, but you guys, I think more recently than us. Yeah, tell me a little bit about Cam Ward and the vision, because we think he's an incredible talent. We love, I got a chance to chat with him a couple different times. I like the way he is. What are your thoughts on him? Yeah, I mean, obviously you see the physical traits and the throws that he makes

and everything that we gathered from, you know, watching him at Miami, Washington State and doing all the research on him, the dude is wired right, right? He's a competitor. He loves football, just loves everything about it. He doesn't have any of the hobbies. He's in the office all the time watching tape. And it's even like going back to when we first got him at that rookie mini camp, I walked in at like 5.15 in the morning and I see the lights on in there.

And he's in there, he's got the whole group in there watching tape. And this isn't like fake. And he wasn't like wanting attention for this. You know, the guys gravitate towards him and that leadership ability. And then just getting into the season last year, I think it was great, even though, you know, the losses were there, but you saw them get better throughout the season, even though we were losing those games,

but you saw the talent. And, you know, I think the vision here is going to be great with Coach Siler and Dable. 98 million, I think. What's that? Is that the number? 98 million? 98 million?

Yeah. Is that what you guys have? Oh, for Capspace? Yeah. Yeah. Most in a league. No, 98.9. We're only 99 million.

I'm sorry. I screwed you out of a veteran. veteran men. If that's accurate. A veteran min. It's a little more of that, but yeah. Oh, so you're up over 100 million? It's close to that, yeah.

Okay, so obviously dynamics are interesting, head coach and general manager. They always talk about alignment, okay? I assume because of who he is with the amount of respect, everybody holds, we're all on the same page. Spending $100 million while also having draft, that's quick turnaround time, right? Is that the envision, the mindset? And what do you think the city of Nashville needs to get the Titans, you know, on top? as a whole in your eyes.

I mean, we're certainly going to attack both acquisition periods here. And I think that you have to say discipline to your process, too. You know, you're still trying to build a team in a locker room and a culture, and you do that through the draft. And we're certainly going to, you know, have our hand in free agency as well, too, here. And there's going to be some great opportunities to add some players in free agency. But really through the draft is really where you have to build that foundation initially. And Robert's been through it before and I've been through it in the past.

And you want to build it right. You got to build it through the draft. Robert, you think about putting jelly roll at By receiver? You can come out to practice. We'll give him a shot. This is awesome, dude. Oh, no, I've heard nothing but great things, especially for raising a family, man. I can't wait.

Dude, it is littered with talent, obviously, the nicest people. And they love ball. I mean, look what happened with Vandy. Vandy got going down there, and the entire city was like, yep, we're, we love, we love Vandy. Now, it's like, I think they're yearning for a great football team. When Vrabel leaves, I think they all felt like that was their connection to the. Vrable was the city's connection to the team. I feel like they're going to really like your mentality, your attitude.

Have you been in Nashville? Have you got to experience Nashville? How has it been? I've never been to Nashville. This is going to be my first go-around. Obviously, when we played, but, should, I hide in a hotel room anyway. But we're excited. My wife, my kids are all excited.

They're chomping at the bit to get down there. How many kids again? Eight. Eight blessings. Geez. Still going? She gets me when I'm sleeping. Not a bad deal. I have a daughter who's two and a half and I got a boy on the way.

When I see people, I mean, he's got four. I believe Phil, Phil's got four kids. I'm like, how, I don't know how you just badass, badass. Badass. She runs it. That's what, a starting basketball, which I assume they will be. We got a starting basketball team. We're going to almost have a starting 11 out there.

and the city of Nashville is going to love you. If you can get the Titans to be great down there, it is a beautiful thing. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, a player you have, Coach. Jeffrey Simmons is coming off like one of the historic year. It feels like he was kind of the bright spot. Of the Titans, have you talked to him?

Is he kind of the guy you've gone to to establish your culture? And what do you kind of expect out of him going forward with Tennessee? No, we've had a chance to visit. Looking forward to him showing up in April and really getting to know him, really getting to know the rest of the group. But Jeffrey is as good as anybody in football. And we're looking forward to doing everything we can to help him find another level. And, you know, I feel like our system is tailor made for his skill set.

And, you know, what's important right now is to surround him with some guys who can get to the quarterback and help him out and to try to create one-on-ones. And if we can do that, I think whatever he did last year is going to be a blip. He's the guy that very well-say didn't want to fight, right? Bingo, yeah. Yeah, very well, say you fight everybody on team but him. Yep. I think that was kind of the... Rebate him.

Coach said he would even fight Simmons. Yeah. I mean, just looking at your silhouette over there. It's going to be hard for me to pick anybody against it. Yeah, that was a crazy thing that just happened. Go ahead, Tone. Were you intimidated when he walked in, Mike? Would you do it when he walks in?

He's a Boston guy. He's from Everett. He's not intimidated by anybody except Woody Bolger. Is that okay? There was a saw in there. Yeah, there was a couple. Yeah, a little southeast shit. He dropped it.

We stayed out of South when we were younger. But yeah. Smart. Mike, I did have a question to you because they say, you know, positions of need for you could be wide receiver or edge. And they also say that is where this draft is best at. Do you agree with that? And have you, is it way too early in the process to have an idea of what position you're going to go with at this point? You know, we've gone through like the phase one of setting the board here before the combine.

So you can see, you know, it's the initial grades. You're not going to make a ton of changes here after the. combine, but yeah, there is value there at both spots, you know, for sure. But now you go through this next phase here of gathering all this information, you get the medical character, now you have to go through with the coaches now and sit down and get their take on these players. And it's important you have the same vision for them, too. So that's what's going to go on here for the next like two months as we get through it. But there's certainly, you know, value at those positions as well. And this value is at some other positions too up there too, but certainly those two spots.

said, I think last year, you don't pass on a generational talent. Do you remember that? Is that you that you said that, I think? I'm trying about. Talking about Cam Ward. Yeah, but no, we didn't know. Oh, yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know who you were talking about. Is that just, were you playing cards there? Like, you just don't pass on generational talent.

And then you walk off. You're like, well, that should fuck everybody else. Is that what? Because you did. I remember it was like a two-month period after you said that where it was like, we're like, the Pison from Boston said something about a generational town. And then people are like, is Cam Ward? We're like, we're like Abdo Carter's really good, too. Abdo Carter was. Travis Hunter.

Yeah, Travis Hunter was a thing. Oh, yeah, generational. Yeah, so were you playing, you were playing. Just now you can come clear with us so we know whether or not we should believe the shit you're saying whenever you talk to it. Was that, did you know what you were doing at that point whenever you said that? No, I mean, there's so much shit that's thrown out there. Yes. It is.

Wow. It is. Like, constantly. Yeah. You said that, though, and not only our show, I mean, every show is like, what is that making? They're talking about. So, wide receiver and a DB first time ever. That feels generational.

Abdul Carter got played through a separate his shoulder. He's seemingly unblocked. Oh, Cam Ward though. Definitely a talent could be. We're just trying to pick your brain. And now we're listening. Fuck, I was trying to get out of the question. Yeah.

I don't want to tell you. AJ has a question for you. Coach, you know, cliche answer or question people give you like, hey, what kind of, we turn the tape on? What kind of team are we going to see when we watch the Tennessee Titans? Every coach says, I want a tough physical team that, you know, balls to the wall effort. But I guess what is going to be your message of the team in a couple of months when they do all come back for all-season workouts? You know, overall, I think when to a player, and obviously you played at a high level for a long time, like your silent tape is your, it is you.

It is your resume. And what do you want that silent tape to represent? And for us, it's being fast, it's being violent. And how you get to that, obviously, it's not just picking guys who are fast and violent. There's a team aspect to it in terms of how we teach and how we get information to our guys. But you talk about our style of play and what we want to be known for and when people are watching and they can't hear anything. And you've got an opponent watching your tape in a dark room by himself with no sound. What are you telling them?

We want that thing to scream speed and violence. You want it to the Bald Eagle fine. And the crow comes. Good old crow and the eagle. That was my first time hearing it. That was my first time here. I thought it was good. I thought it was good.

Have you thought about what you're going to do here for Tennessee for first team meeting? You know what? I'm still working through that. Do you want us to brainstorm for you? You guys can. It's Nashville. Toby Keith. I think you go right to Toby Keith.

Tim McGraw. Who do you want to be? You want to be a Toby? Or do you want to be someone who isn't Toby Keith? I think of something to think about. Tutsi's been around a long time. Not South Florida one, the Nashville one. Two different.

Yeah, team bonding. Very different places. maybe Broadway, talk about Broadway. I mean, the amount of hit, I mean. You go to Big Lounge, you know. We got so many ideas. We got so many ideas. Wait, is the new stadium this season or next?

27. No. So you guys are still in the same stadium this year and then moving in the next one. Yeah. We saw that. It looks really nice. One of the only stadiums that's going to be a rectangle,

not a circle. I believe it has a hundred-yard bar as well, which intrigues me. Something to think about. That's incredible. How many bartenders? She got $100 million in cap space. Okay. Sounds like.

Yep. Got a brand new stadium coming. You got the city of Nashville, which probably 10 cranes up right now, building in there. And you got Robert Sala as your head coach and Cam Ward of your quarterback. Pretty optimistic times for the Tennessee Titans, I would say. Yeah, that was exciting, man. Brand new logo, too. The fanatics kind of forced you guys.

Made it bald. Yeah, you know what I mean? So there's a lot of actual times down there. Dayballs there, we would love. Daveo loved you and Dayball when you guys were both in New York did you text each other and say this sucks That's how you guys a lot of empathy between me and day ball just having a lot of conversations and being being able to practice together But I love Dave's man got to know him like I said it before like when I was a coordinator when we were both coordinators and you go I was like I always thought he was an asshole You know just a jerk you go say hello to him. He won't say hi he just kind of brushes you by and

My first interaction with him was when he was a first year head coach and we're at the owners meeting I was like, man, this guy's pretty freaking cool. And we just, you know, we start having conversations. But he's awesome. He's a great teammate, excited to have him. When you are looking for that particular, when Dayball pops up, it's like, who's good for Cam? Who's good for the Titans?

How do you kind of, in Dayball both, I guess. It's kind of how you view that. Kind of feels like a home run higher at that person. Yeah, there is, for this team, I won't talk about the process too much. But for this team, I felt like Dayball 100% for what? what this quarterback needs and what his strengths are. I felt like Dave all would be a really good fit for him. You know, his temperament, the way he teaches,

his history of young quarterbacks, being in the college game, more recently than me, for that matter, but winning a national championship at Alabama. But Dave's is perfect for the situation. He blows through cigars, too, I think. And states. I think they, I think he's a chain cigar smoker.

Which I didn't even know you could do. Once again, dog. Tone has the last question for you boys. Yeah, Mike, I did. I just, you were at KC for so, so, so long. What was it like 15? 16 16 years. What is the one thing that you wanted to take

from obviously the organization that won all those championships over to Tennessee? Yeah, that's a great question. You know, the one thing, it started at the top with Andy and the way he created that culture there. And you could feel it from day one when he got in there. There was no division, right? right, the coaches are going to work together, the scouts are going to work together,

and bring in the right type of people. And that's how you build a culture. You've got to get talented coaches, players, scouts, but you've got to get the right type of people that work together. And that's like the biggest thing I took. Sometimes we make things harder than they really are. And if you find a bunch of good people that work together that are smart, you can accomplish some pretty cool things.

With a good attitude. With a good attitude. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. You get a bunch of people around each other that hate each other. You're not going to do it. We've got a bunch of people that like each other. It feels like they're going to go further together. Seems like everything you guys are about, we like.

So we are hoping for your success, except for two games a year. What do you do? You a Peloton guy? You still lifting? Peloton, a little lifting. Little lifting. Bike? Bike.

Okay, so you're... I'm a hauling ass. Every day? I got to get back into a rhythm. Oh, you're fat. But I've gone about 107 weeks doing at least one ride. You're an animal. What's the lifting?

What's the lifting? We're just doing show lifting? It's show lifting. There's nothing functional about this. Let's say you and Dan Campbell, okay? Two guerrillas see each other. And you guys actually decide just without saying anything, fuck it, let's see.

Let's throw it out. Let's see who this is. Right now you're saying your muscle is not ready to pick up and explode if have to. You know, when I look at a guy like Dan, this is the best way I can explain it, was a D2 athlete. He was a professional athlete. He's just built different, bud. No. You are built different. You are built different.

I have massive respect. For 107 weeks, at least one ride on Peloton. I assume that's some sort of record. They should give you like a coin or something. And the fact that you're now a head coach again in the NFL, obviously we're pumped for you, proud for you. There's only 32 of their jobs, dude. Excited to see what you do down there in Nashville. Can you throw? Give it a shot. So you know what I'm asking right now. Yeah, I know what you're asking.

Okay, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Here we go, Coach. Okay, this will be for a Nashville charity. I don't know if this thing... It's too tall for that thing. Jeez. Careful now, Coach. Hold on, Coach. Hold on, Coach. I'm getting on the high side here.

How old are you? 47. What? Okay, what is... What are you? I'm Irish German. What are you? Just so I get it accurate. Lebanese.

Lebanese. Okay, great food, right? The best food. The best food. Well... Okay. The Italians are going to be pissed on. I mean, you've got a couple of Italians.

I got to have you a moment. Exactly. Okay, so we got a little Lebanese food versus Italian food, a little battle down in our national. I love everything about it. Like USA versus Canada. 46 years old, jacked. Robert Salah, defensive coordinator,

now head coach for the Tennessee Titans, trying to win $100,000 for a charity of your choosing. Are you ready, Robert? Let's do it. Good luck, sir. Defensive coordinator? D2. Holy shit.

That was the worst throw we've had. He said D2. Bob. Is he throwing balls to guys? It was slippy. It was slippy. It was slippy. A little slippy there.

Monty. Okay, okay, okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is the lawn. Low was the worst one we've seen. High, best spiral we've seen.

So now the third one, if we're just able to put it in between there. If we're able to put it in the hole, $100,000. Oh! Congratulations. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach

and the general manager of the Tennessee Titans, Labrits Salam Baganzi. Yeah, boys. That was a hell of a throw. Hey, after that first one, I thought you had no shot. Good luck, guys. Good luck, Mike. All right, Mike.

We'll win. All right, every game but two, Mike. Every game but two. Oh, they're going to win more than that. I think I like the Titans all of a sudden. Seriously. I don't like that I do that. Good crew.

Yeah. Everybody but the Colts I feel great about in the NFC. Come on. I mean, that is a bummer. I'm being, like, kind of serious. It's a bummer. Titans, Jags? Who am I missing?

Texan? Texans. Now, but Nick Casario saying, trading CJ is moronic. Okay, we're not doing it. Thanks. Next question. It's like, but maybe. No.

We're not doing it. What's your name? Shut up. Go after Doug Mills, though. Maybe. You know, the Colts, everybody's just assuming if we're getting any dimes back up. Jets need a quarterback still?

What are they have to pay them to get them back? That's what I'm saying. A lot. Everybody's just assuming in Indianapolis. in Indianapolis that Danny there was posts from the cold social media which we know it doesn't mean anything there's social media person trying to put out good content yeah it was Mendoza and Daniel Jones at Super Bowl and they're like Indiana quarterbacks I'm like do we do do do we know that are we sure do we know they also have a lot there's been a lot of alec Pierce uh posts as well and then

there's talks about pitman being gone it's like pitman carries a 29 million dollar cap it okay I understand that some people are like are is that what we're going to pay Michael pitman it's like Michael Pittman is a priceless commodity for the Indianapolis calls. When we had culture issues, he was the only guy that would literally try to break his face every single play. This guy showed up for us every single down. When Jonathan Taylor was holding out first year, Shane Steichen, rookie quarterback, trying to reset a whole new culture, and he's holding out wearing a hoodie at training camp, which once again, he got his money. He did what he got to do?

As soon as he gets paid after doing that, I think our media thought was, Like, Pittman needs to do the same thing. Pitman is more valuable to this team than anybody else other than Jonathan Taylor. So the thought of us just moving on from him was crazy for me to see, like, everybody on Colts internet. Being cool. Just being like, yeah, yeah, we got to move on from. Sure, we got to do that. It's like, I don't know if you want to lose that type of culture builder in the building.

Like, he's one of our best. Play's hurt all the time. So I'm bent in half. All the time. All of the time. And it's like, well, when Daniel Jones was playing. quarterback, Alec Pierce was his weapon. Michael Pittman wasn't getting to ball much. He's like our fourth option.

You know, we got Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor. Now you got Alec Pierce with Deepa. It's like, okay, you're starting to make sense, but I don't know if we should just be moving on from a guy that, like, loves being a cult and, like, works his ass off and, like, wants to be here. Because we've had problems with that in the not so distant future.

So, or it passed. In $29 million for, like, a receiver of his caliber is not what it used to, is not what $29 million was three years ago. But we got paid Daniel Jones. John Dick Taylor's going to want a new deal. Well, there you go. Yeah, so it's like, I understand why everybody,

I don't understand why everybody was just so like, yeah, let's move on. Nonchalant. Yeah, I was just like, yeah, we're moving on from him. It's like, we're moving on for Michael Pittman? There's a lot of that happening the last couple weeks and now that everyone's been asked about at the Combine, now everyone could be lying, but it seems like a lot of those probably weren't sure. What's that thing?

We're moving on from Pittman? No, Pittman, like, we're moving on from this player. Max Crosby, yeah, yeah. It does feel like there's a lot of smoke. And that might be coming from, and we won't give away the game. But that could be agents, like just trying to, ah, especially whenever they get here, they can say, like, hey, don't know if you're interested. We got a little bit of a thing kind of working out here. So there's always a game being played.

We understand that. And hopefully the game of football has played well for the Colts. AFC South is going to be great. A lot of people said it was ass. And all of a sudden, Liam Cohen, who doesn't come to the combine. I guess he doesn't care about players' meetings. Well, well, well, well. communication issue maybe it's all taped it's all filmed other other teams interviews are filmed

and sent other team what do you mean other teams like the the interviews that they're doing here they're the teams that are doing the interviews are here send them the jaguars no if you're interviewing if if i am the jaguars or interviewed a player he will get to watch it at home oh you're saying they sent people they record it yeah john schnyer mentioned the recorded interviews they recorded some of those interviews you heard him say like yeah we can watch the interviews now from somewhere else. You heard him kind of give a... I think COVID changed a lot of that.

How do you know if they smell, though? You don't. That's true. That's true. If a guy smells like... Bad self-awareness. If he farts, that's one thing. We can handle that.

If a guy has bad B.O., I don't know if I could sign him. He's super fidgety. Bad breath doesn't brush his teeth in the morning. I can't do it. What if he has bad breath and he smells? And then you say, hey, for tomorrow, I don't want you smell and brush your teeth.

And then he comes back. He doesn't do it again. He's off my board. Definitely. He's off the board. Unless he says, oh, sorry, coach, I've been working all that. I've been working on my craft. What are you doing?

Oh, I've been non-rocks. Yeah, exactly. Watching ball. Yeah. Chewing on a football. All right, let's get out of here. We've done enough. Love the combat.

You sure. Yeah, a combine. Look at his setup, dude. It's awesome. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Indianapolis. Luke's all stadium. We're hosting a combine. 2014 divisional chance.

That's a huge. Never forget. It's been a while. I told John Schneider spent 11 years since Colts won. He goes, what? Yeah, he did. He was genuinely shocked. Ah, he's huge. Yeah. Titans 2021.

Thought about it. Yeah. That was their last division. Who was a quarterback? Ryan 10. Mike Brable, number one. And Derek Henry, that was the Kansas City Chief started. It's when they sacked Burrow a thousand times. Seven. Yeah, since he went. 11?

I think it was 10.11. It started that most sacked postseason ever. Tell Jake. Let's go to some other stories around football. Obviously, high schoolers are now getting NIL deals to be professional football players in college. Seniors in high school are no longer doing their spring senior year. They're going to the football teams.

If you remember, Kevin. Bramon. Nailed it. Commits to the West Virginia Mountaineers on our program. Lights a couch on fire immediately. Dad cuts a promo. Yeah. He squatted 605 pounds.

What? Yeah, he's 18 years old. He's supposed to go into prom. Yeah, this is coming out of the West Virginia weight room. I like that we're moving. Wait, Kevin Brown. Shout up to him. 655, sorry, not 605, 655.

What? That's an 18-year-old. He hasn't stopped drinking the ooze since we talked to him last. He certainly hasn't. This guy is a freak. He's a tone and a... Look those quads. He's a tone setter.

Yeah, he's a changer. West Virginia's about to be back because of him, we knew that immediately upon him making his announcement on this show, and then him and his whole family lighting an entire portion of a town on fire. Damn. And I'm excited about that. He's the strongest guy on the team, I think. I don't know.

Probably. No, he is. Yeah, I'd be getting texts from there. He's like, hey, Kevin's the strongest kid on the team. And I'm like, don't love that. Got a good or bad team. Yeah, I don't know. But then you're seeing him squad 635.

It's like, this guy might be a strong guy on a lot of teams. So we are very lucky that he's there. Shout to football being back spring ball for college. And then obviously the combine here. for the NFL. NHL is about to drop the puck back after an Olympic run that was electrifying. I believe we'll have Megan Keller on the program

this week at some point. She is in the middle of her PWHL lead, which I think they quoted and talked about after the Olympics about not being able to make some things happen because we have some academic stuff going on. We have some professional stuff going on. We didn't immediately, you know, weren't going to be open.

I did offer to send her plane to fly her here to be a part of show. And she didn't want to miss Born Escape for a team. So, like, it's like that type of convention, which I respect. I respect so much. Like, hey, we'd love to fly you in here, fly you back. We'll be so thankful. And she said, I can't be missing any of my practices with my team.

I'm like, fucking respect. So she'll be coming on, I believe, tomorrow. And then we got Jack Hughes. Hell, yeah. Flying in. On Friday, he'll be here flying in. Cannot wait to chat with him. What a week he has had.

I believe he is enjoying the moment, as he should. His family has done so much for USA hockey. I mean, the more we learn about Quinn, Jack, mom, dad, family, Michigan, Team USA, all that type of stuff. They've committed their entire beings to hockey. So for him to have that moment in the stars is just a beautiful thing. We're so incredibly thankful for all the USA athletes that represented for our country. And let the rest of the world know that if we wanted to do your little sports, court.

We'll be better than you. Shout to America. Hell yeah. A lot of people don't feel that way. Fuck them. Don't ever be able to get them. Never be able to get them. They should be proud of our athletes.

We certainly are. And we can't wait to chat with them. All right, we're back here tomorrow, live from the combine. We can't thank enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Tom, good work today, buddy. You're having more bets of the day tomorrow? Yeah, I got two more tomorrow. I feel like today's were good.

I hope so. I put a lot of thought into them, so. We thank you for doing that. man, last year, this was your Super Bowl. Now you're kind of watching everybody else hope to get to where you were. And Braves is walking through here talking shit to people. Yeah, it was incredible. I mean, he coached up

Nate Bargazzi when he was throwing Jesse Minter. It looked exactly like him. It's been on my mind since he sat down. But yeah, seeing Vrable, very cool. Elliot Wolf, very cool. But it is real. Like, if you were a team, that's stunk last year, that's in the past. No one cares anymore now. Now you might draft two guys

and you might just go on a completely different run. Jacksonville, Chicago. England, these places. Get new people in there. Things go well, let alone Seattle. That's just two years. That's just two years. So fan bases are expecting Adhas to Penthouse

because they've seen it in many other places. AJ, thank you so much for traveling over to beautiful Indianapolis. Great stop. It loves for that hat. What are your thoughts for tomorrow? I can't wait. We get some guys, some position specific drills. What is it?

Tightens. Linebackers. Linebackers. No, linebackers, D.B.'s is on Friday. Linebackers, D. It's awesome. It is like, it is fun to watch. Watch these guys. I like to do all. I like to see all the change of direction drills.

And then obviously even see the defensive guys catching balls from these quarterbacks. I'm impressed by. Yeah, the punters and kickers are currently working out on the field. If you remember last year, stop the show early to go host the kicking and punting thing that was happening on the field on NFL network. Turns out it wasn't on NFL network. There was no cameras. Started the stop the show early, went down to the field. I say, is there a mic phone? What are you talking about? They said, so I just hung out.

Didn't do that this year. But it was fun to watch. Those guys do the- I saw some clips, I thought. Yeah. I assumed it was on TV. They started filming because they felt bad. Okay.

And then they ran a 24-second clip on Good Morning Football. Do you remember? Yeah. They were like, Pat hung out with the kickers. Yeah. It was my first time on Good Morning Football. It was that. Yeah.

So I'm not falling for that trick again. I didn't fucking get, yeah. I'm not doing that. NFL Network. Peers now all of a sudden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After. All one family. It feels like they're potentially operating as if that's happening already. Yep, there's getting a head nod. There's the orangutan right there. Holy shit.

Grigs and boys, good to see you guys. Good to see you boys. We talk about silhouettes. You're talking about just like a silverback moving in the wild. It's like a thicker Whitworth. Yeah, look at his ass, whoa, look at his back right there. If he needs to strap, hey, don't even try to get bought or I'll trap you. All right, see you guys. All right, we'll be back here tomorrow. might change your life. We're so thankful to be back. We hope you will join us tomorrow. Boys in the truck. Great work, boys. How about Bruce just blocking Gumpy's face with his computer?

Yeah. That felt intentional. Yeah, that was tough. It was. Yeah, it was. It was. It was tough. Barcode, an entire crew here. Thank you so much for what you guys did. It's going to be a good week. Scott with the jib. Way to get real creative for that second hour, Scott. Yeah, thanks for screwing that out, Scott. I really fucked us on the football. Yeah, you're a man. Great jib shots, eh?

That second hour open, though, was an aggressive choice. It threw us off. That's why the third hour is so much better. First hour and third hour were fine because we were like, okay, here it comes. Camera comes. Coming around to corn. Football. I actually said back here, oh, Pat told him to freestyle this hour.

Oh, no, that's how comfortable Scott is. That's how you're Scott. I do, I do appreciate Scott, though. Yeah. He's a weapon. If you have a gym, it just feels like it's nicer. Yeah. Emotion.

sky cam yeah exactly yeah xFL bingo yeah where we played afl u s xFL yeah could you imagine these people thinking about putting it all right nope let's move along be your friend tell if something nice might change your life we're listening together team on me team on three we'll see you tomorrow from the combine you all are the best one two three team goodbye