The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1504 - Live from the Lahd Hahse for the NFL Combine, Brandon Beane & Joe Brady, Nick Caserio, Randy Orton, Governor Mike Braun, Dan Morgan, Sean Payton

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are LIVE from the Lahd Hahse, Lucas Oil Stadium for NFL Combine. In the first hour, we are joined by Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane and new Head Coach Joe Brady to talk about their favorite parts of the Combine, draft stories like Laremy Tunsil’s, how they approach the Draft & Free Agency, how big the Bison are at the Bills’ new stadium, and more. To start the second hour, Texans GM Nick Caserio stopped by to reiterate that the Texans are not trading CJ Stroud, what goes into building the NFL’s best defense, what makes DeMeco Ryans a great Head Coach, potentially moving up or down from the 28th pick and more. Right after Nick Caserio we are joined by living legend and 14-time World Champion, WWE Superstar Randy Orton, who talks about his upcoming match at Elimination Chamber, his legendary finisher the RKO, how the business has changed over the years, how he takes care of his body now vs back in the day, his love for Elden Ring and more. To close the second hour, we are joined by businessman & Indiana Governor Mike Braun to discuss the legislation to clear the path for the Chicago Bears to move across state lines to Indiana, his background in business, what Indiana needs to legalize, and more.  In the third hour, 7 year NFL veteran Linebacker and Panthers GM Dan Morgan drops by to talk about the resiliency of Bryce Young, the growth of the Panthers football team & culture, the possibility of trading Andy Dalton, his relationship with owner David Tepper, drafting a guy like Tetaroia McMillan, and more. We close things out today with Broncos HC Sean Payton stopping by to talk about the unfortunate Bo Nix injury, how he’s approaching this offseason, handing over play-calling to OC Davis Webb, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We will be back LIVE from the Lahd Hahse tomorrow and Friday. Appreciate the hell out of all of you. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to Indianapolis, Indiana, the home of the Combine for the 39th great year. This Thursday, February 26, starts now. Football! It is absolutely spectacular, and we're so incredibly pumped that the next NFL season has already started. So many things have happened here in Indianapolis, so many different rumors have started and been put out, so many different storylines have developed, and which team is going to walk out of the combine knowing exactly, who's going to change their program, change their organization, and maybe get them into a Lombardi conversation sooner than later.

The world has seen the New England Patriots do what they did with Frabo and his first year up there. Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville, how quick he was able to turn that around. Ben Johnson in Chicago, McDonald and Seattle, two-year turnaround. They win the Super Bowl. The Combine is something that introduces a player to potentially his new home and bosses in a big way. A lot of behind-the-scenes stuff happening around here.

Schrager's been talking about it all morning. He talked about how, you know, how he's got a little different tune about A.J. Brown. Maybe he's listening to some offers. Those are the things that are happening at bars around this beautiful city of Indianapolis, Indiana. I guess, you know, Shreg is also is outing the best brunch place in town publicly. Come on. It's unbelievable Shregs.

There's some things that need to stay in Fight Club, brother, in this entirety. But Indianapolis is alive. Indianapolis is buzzing. And the NFL is spectacular. We're so incredibly lucky to be here. We got a pack show today. We got Joe Bray and Brand Bean join us out of him. We got Nick Casario joining us out of Houston.

We got Randy Orton traveling in just a few days before the elimination chamber on Saturday up there in Chicago. We got Governor Mike Braun joining us of Indiana. A lot happening in that world. Are the Chicago Bears coming to Indiana? Feels like it. Well, I believe here in Indiana, there's a signing of a bill that's happening that's basically the Bears bill that agrees to all the different tax rights and everything,

exemptions that are taking place up in Hammond that could potentially lure the Chicago Bears from the great state of it. Illinois into the better state of Indiana potentially. Now, Illinois is answering today. They're having a vote. They're having a conversation on what they're going to be able to do for the Chicago Bears. Feels like the Bears team has handled this perfectly. This is a story as old as time.

There's been so many different rumors about ownership or teams flying over Los Angeles or San Antonio whenever they're looking for a new stadium. The threat to leave is always the leverage that the team has against the state whenever they're trying to get state-funded stuff. Will Illinois respond to what Indiana offers? offered up. And if Illinois does respond, does Indiana go back to the drawing board? We will ask Governor Mike Braun about that today and also ask him about hosting the combine here for 39 straight years. It is a spectacular thing. It is a massive piece of it. We're very thankful

that he's stopping by. And then we got Dan Morgan, general manager of the Carolina Panthers, a man who I don't think has blinked in two years, but he's certainly done something special down in Charlotte. We'll talk about all the other sports that are happening. Some magic's happening, obviously in the NHL and the MBAs got stuff cooking and the PWHHL is obviously on a run. The Boston Fleet are an absolute problem. Duh. The Minnesota Frost though, kind of getting in.

Pretty good. And the team up there in Ottawa and Vancouver, and then over in Seattle, they got a good squad as well. So there's magic happening in sports and we can't wait to chitch out about all of it. Joined by an incredible group of boys. Town Diggs is here.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Tone. Yesterday you gave us a couple bets of the day. You said we think people. people are going to run fast and we think people are going to bench press strong. Today, is there any bets? What would you like to re kind of compound, double down on your bets from yesterday? Or do we have new bets to potentially look at here at the combine? We're not saying that you should be out here gambling on combine.

But, however, if you're looking to gamble on the combine, yes, there are some things in the book that can certainly make these underwear Olympics a lot more interesting in the way we look at it. Yeah, so yesterday I did two. I started with the 40-yard dash with which the over under is 4.265, which is absolutely flying. The fastest last year was 4.28. I did go with the under this year because there's a couple guys who ran 23.7 miles per hour this year on the field. Chris Hilton Jr. of LSU and Brennan Thompson of Mississippi State. So that translates to a 4-26, okay?

I did the math. I did the equations. Tony, by the way. I see you side-eyed me. Hop and Tony. So I'm just saying there's a chance out here. That GP time. Yes, thank you.

Out here on the coconut house, there's a chance that goes under 4265. I do not think the under 421 Xavier Worthy is going to be in trouble this year. I think he's still going to be the record holder. And the other one was the bench press one.

Also the equation I did. Guys who are benched over 500 for one rep translates to over 35 and a half for the bench press. So I went over on that one. Today, I do have two more. Here we go. Hey, what did you do with your Super Bowl bets

of the week? How was that record? It was 4 and 1, I believe. Okay. Okay, so we need to potentially listen to UC. what you're seeing. The only one that didn't go over was Sam Donald passing yards. You know, they didn't have to pass

late. Kenneth Walker wins the MVP. Obviously, that's going to be a part of it. But hey, Connor, Boston Conner is here in college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawk is here. What we're not taking into account, he was seeing a board maybe during Radio Row. That was the end of the season. He had an AP vote. He was really

dialed him. He's just been boozing for the last two weeks with his wife. Have you seen what him had been? Great times. Fantastic. Yeah, yeah. They're calling him the mayor of the elbow room down there in Lottie Dottie. Well, that's when Chuck he's out,

you're kind of in step there with his kind of vibes. Because the way he's selling these bets of the combine, I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. But then I've got to remember, this dude's been boozing on a beach for two and a half weeks. You're seeing the border. You are not wrong. You're a thousand percent not wrong, but I took

my vacation Thursday to Tuesday of that first week in the second week. I've been clean, dry, and sober for a week. Study. I don't believe that. Well, I drink a lot on Friday and Saturday, but boom. I mean, espresso and martini. You weren't there, actually. Okay, so you missed the Martinez yesterday.

See? All right, okay. But no, I think we're good. We did the research or whatever. Today, I wanted to start with the broad jump. It is over under 11.458 feet, which is 137.5 inches, is the over under there, juiced to the longer. And I think that's because Jeff Codwell, he's a wide receiver out of Cincinnati, jumped 119 this last year in their testing at Cincinnati, which would go over by, what, four or five inches there.

There's a couple other there. Sunny Stiles, the Ohio State linebacker is an absolute freak, okay? An absolute freak. I don't know if he's going to go more than this, but he's a freak. But the guy, Jeff Codwell, out of Sinty, the wide receiver who jumped 11-9 in this off-season, I believe is who I'm going to go with to go over on the broad jump. The last year, Eam and Worry jumped 138. That was the longest last year.

Cool. Yeah. So we're playing on another E-M-M-I-Wry? What's the longest ever to combine? I think I saw like 142 or something like that. That's so much. No, those guys are so expletable. When you can broad jump like that, it's just absolute freak among freaky.

So I didn't play football growing up, so maybe it affected me. That one I can never figure out. I'm not good at landing. Landing hurts. I cannot figure out the how do I jump that? I could always jump up. It's kind of a combination up and out. Combination.

Yeah, you got to kind of go out there. But it involves, that's explosive. That is where you judge it. Like obviously the vertical is explosion. How explosive are you? Normally, bigger asses are. getting high. That's normally where you can kind of judge explosion. A lot of

ash judging happening here at the Combine because that can kind of tell you the type of athlete, it's kind of an indicator in this entire thing. Broad jump, though, you have to create something out of nothing while all this is going forward. That's the most difficult one, I think, in my eyes. If we get somebody getting longer to 137 a half, longer than aiming war, I'd be

incredibly impressed. Yeah, but Tony's locked in on these, too. We've got to remember when he became the COVID Cowboy, he had to go into a hole. Now, this is kind of a boozy, boozy tone, boozy bitch tones down there in Florida. people say my best. Yeah, that helps him more than anything. Socially.

Even just going yesterday, always, even just going to yesterday to his over bench press, you know, idea. You come to today and all of a sudden, I got the longest arms out of every D. Lyman in the combine this year. I'm starting to think that bench press might go over 40 and the overrunner was 35 and a half. A lot of people talking about arm size and arm length. And it was certainly coming up in our conversation because it is a big storyline, especially the Bain, which how much respect we have with them.

And Cassius Howl how much respect we have from their arms are coming in. shorter than like anybody in the history of ball. Yeah. And their defensive ends and edges. And when it happens to tackles out there, it's hand-to-hand combat. You know, and if you lose the reach advantage in hand-to-hand combat, that's a problem. So that is why it's a storyline. And teams will certainly look at that and how they judge it and how they view it

versus the tape and everything is obviously different. We think Bain and Howe are both dogs. But we're just saying those are real stats whenever you're talking about NFL tackles and everything like that. But what it does bode well for is the bench press. Yeah. Yeah, especially when big guys, when big guys call. at that barrel chest like AQ Shipley.

AQ Shipley. Got to move it three inches. He was built like the Michelin Tire Man there for a while. Had the second, smallest, shortest arms in the history of the NFL, 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion. He has always been good at the back arched like this way up. All the way this way. And then all of a sudden, that's it.

And it's like, yeah, you do 60 of it. It's like, must be nice. And then you have the conversation. Yeah, but you're going to get long-armed by. Everybody's, oh, we're not talking about that. We're talking about the bench. So it does feel like this is just a day and just a couple of big names. This might be a short-armed class.

And that bodes very well for the bench. And they might debug all the theories going forward. Yeah, there are a couple barrel-chested DeLyman that I didn't mention yesterday. Dante Corleone, the godfather out of Cincinnati. And then Big Citrus out of Iowa State. Both of them have a chance to go over the bench. But my last bet for today. So I went under on the 40.

We're going to be fast. We're going to be strong with the bench. We're going to jump far with the broad. I'm going under on this one. It's 43 and a half for the vertical jump, which is just... 43 and core. Oh, did it check? 43.25.

Oh, it is, you're right. 43.25, which is on me. Even Worry was 43.5 last year. He's kind of the measuring stick. I don't think anybody's getting there this year. I mean, I got a couple guys. Sonny Stiles, who I mentioned, was a basketball freak, Ohio State. But he's 250 pounds.

Okay. Eli Stowers, the tight end out of Vandy is an absolute freak. Kenyon Sadeek jumped 42 inches. in the offseason, he might get close, but I don't see anyone getting 43 and a half. That's huge. The athletes are insane. Let's go to AJ Hawk, one of those athletes. Yes.

Yeah, one of those guys that did his absurd stuff alongside Bobby Carpenter. You know, wearing all white tights in front of the NFL, letting him peacock around, get a little check, get a little looksy, how you doing, keep him moving. AJ, a lot of notables working out today. Ton, who are some guys that are going to be notable is that we have obviously, I don't want to say super stardom, but guys that are very notable that are going to be working out or not working out today. What is kind of the news? Yeah, I don't know if you can pull them up or not, Foxy, but we'll start with David Bailey, the edge from Texas Tech.

14 and a half sacks in 2025. He was one of the leaders in the nation. He transferred from Stanford to Texas Tech. They spent a shit ton of money on him, and it was very, very well spent. He's supposed to go in the top five. He's going to be out there today doing the drills. I talked about Sonny Stiles a lot because he is my Nick Eamon warrior of this year. And I'm not talking about he's not a safety, obviously, and he's not going to follow the second round about, but I'm just talking about physically gifted dudes. He had one mistackle on the entire year. He's an absolute freak. He's going to broad jump 11.

He's going to vert 40. He's going to run well. Sonny Stiles is up there. Everyone should know his name. The other one, Arvel Reese. Okay. Well, Arvel? Yes, yes, yes. Allegedly it was potentially a clerical air. A clerical air. Excuse me.

Yeah, we were trying to do the right thing because we've been a part of a few of these before in the biggest way whenever we're drafting, announcing a draft pick where names have changed or pronunciations have changed, and we try to get it right. Because whenever people say McCaffee, I say, no, it's McAfee. And then they say, like the antivirus? Bingo. And that's always the interaction that I have to have. And then I say it's more than an antivirus, which is you should certainly download the

app, by the way. We should play a little defense against these trolls. So I, as somebody who's had my name pronounced wrong for a lot, large portion of my life, I'll never forget. I think we were playing in Washington, prime time game, PA announcement. coming out to kick opening kickoff or whatever Adam Vinatari

That's not an easy one Was it kind of cool though Was not I'm out there I'm like that's sick So then I kick it off And then somebody told him hey That's not Adamentary

Next one coming out to kick Pat McAfee I'm like all right Hopefully we get out here again For a third one And then literally the third one Hit McAfee or whatever So we try to get it right

Yeah So allegedly there was a little clear Something happened Arvel Still Arvel Reese Yeah As we saw this year, he is an absolute monster. Okay, he's getting, he's getting the Micah Parsons treatment because he played off the ball, a lot of Ohio State.

He's projecting, a lot of people projecting him to play on the ball. And just look at that absolute monster. He is huge. He's the same size of Sunny Styles. He's supposed to run really well today. And then the last one who is the only one on this list who's not projected in the first round, Jacob Rodriguez is an absolute monster. Over the last two seasons, 255 tackles and 15 forced turnovers. Everyone's very, very excited to see what he runs and what he does today

because production-wise, he's an absolute once. He can make himself a bunch of money today. Yeah, and I think the more they talk to him, the more they're going to like him. And then they're going to start watching more film. He was a quarterback whenever he went to college, and then obviously he won $250,000 con, man. Yeah, no big deal. And he reeks of one of those guys that everybody knows when you're watching college football.

But then for some reason doesn't go in the first round because of some bullshit. I don't know if maybe people learned. Yeah, like third round. Exactly. Intimidated by the stash. He ends up going in the second or third, and then he's, you know, first team, all rookie, whatever. And he's one of those guys that feels like everyone's fan favorite. Like some guys like Arvel Reese and Sunny Stiles polarizing because they're O-H-I-O-Buck guys.

Rodriguez, it feels like everybody wants that guy on their team. Wives and Army Black Hawk helicopter pilot, badass. And, you know, and with that throw, got raised $250,000 for the Children of Fallen Patriots Foundation. It's like unbelievable dude every time we've been around him. and he was a quarterback coming in college, and then he becomes this linebacker, then he just starts taking over everything. But right now it feels like, AJ,

we're back in linebacker, you Ohio State world. It really is. Arvel and Sonny. Arvel was the guy that Sean told me about before a game day. Yes. So I talked to, we had Ohio State, Texas first week of game day. Obviously, it was gigantic.

Arch Manning, kicked on Julian San, the reigning champs taking on a rematch on a semi-fi. I mean, it was gigantic. And right before I went up on stage, happens every week whenever I'm doing that show. I try to ask quick hitters before I get up there by like whoever it is, AD or like somebody that works in the building.

This guy is a guy who is with Ohio State who we love this guy. So right before I'm about to go up stage, I'm like, hey, who's somebody that if I say that like, hey, I'll sound like a genius. That is what I'm trying to do right now. You know it. I don't know who it is. I'm better practice. You have.

And he goes, Arvel Reese, this guy needs to say. And I go, that's sick name too. And then I get up there and then I get towards the end. And I'm making the pick. And I'm like, what the? I forgot his name. But then you watch the season go, he was. Oh, yeah.

And he was absolutely everything. Him and Sonny were special. Ohio State's got some weapons coming into this draft glass, but I think that's just norm for you guys, I guess. Yeah, that's norm. These two are not the norm when it comes to, like, physical stature and freak athletic ability. I mean, guys like this don't come around very often. Both 6-4, almost 6 foot 5, 230, 250 pounds between there somewhere.

And, I mean, Arvel Reese, he's developed there. He hadn't played for a couple years. He played sparingly, had to, you know, was just putting on. on weight, becoming a better player. Then he has a breakout year. Sonny Stiles came in with a bunch of hype, a bunch of who, I watched Sonny Stiles play. I believe he reclassified.

So it would have been his junior year of high school in the state finals. Division I, state finals, the biggest division in Ohio. And he was an unbelievable basketball player as well. Sonny's dad played in Ohio State. His brother plays there. Just a great line of athletes. But guys that I think will impress not only in the classroom, but obviously on the field, we'll see whatever their numbers they put up.

But, yeah, looking for big days from them. Okay, so those are the notables that will be working out today here at beautiful. Las Vegas host of the NFL. I don't know if this is going to remain here forever, but I do like that we just signed another two-year extension. Yeah, sweet. It's a perfect setup medical-wise. I mean, everything is perfect, but you saw what they did with the draft.

I was very lucky that I got to announce the two-year extension with the combine and visit India and Indianapolis and everything like that. And immediately after announced, what up, John Lynch. Hey, good luck out there, dude. Move the team. Yeah. I think he is, he said we will do anything. He knows.

We'll look into it. He would definitely look into it. But the NFL, they started opening up tickets, what, three years ago for this thing, four years ago? And the numbers have only doubled each single year that they go. And with what the draft has done, it's only a matter of time it feels like until they're going to try to move it. The only thing holding it back is the medical is the most important part of this. So you can't just pick up all that and just kind of go to. You've got to have MRI machines everywhere.

Everywhere, yeah. And the coaches and GMs are so comfortable with it here. draft is one thing because the coaches and jams they're not there the teams aren't there like they're in their own war rooms or whatever so the draft is really just people setting up the draft the NFL stuff like this this is the coaches and GMs and all the scouts they're just so comfortable with all their meeting spots here where they're walking every sale day yeah what they do where the lot of boozing out of these football guys you know they're saying the younger generation booze is down like 150 or something like yeah i forget what it's like an absurd crazy number

which congrats to them if that's what they're yeah sure i guess we'll It'll be cyclical. It'll be cyclical. These football dudes are all from the era of we're hammering beers and we're doing football. And there's a lot of that happening around town. It is a special vibe here. Speaking of special, there's a couple of people that could have special days. I think you already mentioned one of them.

Yeah, so there's a lot of guys who we just mentioned the Nodals, who everybody knows. Those are like household names. A few guys that I wanted to point out who aren't household names unless you're super into college football. I want to start with a Cincinnati linebacker, Jake Golda. you're going to be, you're going to look at him and be like, is this guy actually going to perform well? I don't know why you would say that but just looking at him. Why? Why is he said?

I don't you mean? Because he's Irish? Yes, because he's Irish. Is Gold Day? Oh, Gold Day? It is today. Jaco Gold Day. Jacob Gold Day. Yeah. Golddeo? But he's going to be another one of these guys who is 6, 4, 65, 240, 250 at Cincinnati when they did their testing. He would have been number one in the combine last year for both the 20-yard shuttle, the three-cone drill,

and then also the broad jump. He would have been like second or third last year. So he's supposed to test out of the market today. He's going to be a really, really good guy for these teams in this combine. The second guy that I want to look at is Kyle Lewis. He's from Pitt. He's a bit of an undersized linebacker, but that's fine. because he moves like an underside.

He moves really well. He's not like a stiff undersized linebacker. He's really good in coverage. He has 10 sacks the last two years, six interceptions, 180 tackles. He's not afraid to stick his nose in there. And he's supposed to run really well today. And then the last guy that I wanted to talk about is out of Illinois,

the edge, Gabe Accus, who is just absolutely huge. He's another like 6, 5, 270 guy, over 20 miles per hour on the, on the readings this year at 19 sacks the last two years. He benched over 30 reps. He's an absolute freak. He's another one who was supposed to show out here at the company. This is what the combine is. It's just viral moments.

Yes. Whenever people do something absurd, it's a viral moment. And then Rich and Daniel Jeremiah kind of guiding you through everything else. We're having a podcast. We're talking ball and that, oh, shit, what just happened out here? These are the guys that can potentially steal the show today is what you're saying in your eyes. Yes, these guys, it was crazy because last year was a lot of guys who you weren't sure about, like the names you weren't sure about who performed really well.

This year was Sunny Stiles and Arval Reese, like, and the top names are also supposed to be the athletic. How is the last name spelled or said there? Accus. Okay. The J is silent. Oh, like Django. But D. Oh, yeah, so very different then.

First letter. What is it then? Acus, I believe. Accus. Just drop it. The amount of people that have called him jackass. I don't like it. He should lean into it, though.

Well, especially whenever he jacks this entire place. For sure. Yeah. Jackass. We can't wait to watch. Okay, let's move away from the workouts on the field. Let's move to the people that are judging them. Okay.

Let's move to the people that are the gatekeepers for the NFL. and let's move to a city that we absolutely love. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the general manager and the head coach of the Buffalo Beals, just dapping up Josh McCown, the general manager, Brandon Bean, and Joe Brady. Appreciate you, dude. How you doing, man?

Good to see you, dude. Can't wait to see you. Hey, Joe, how about the, all right, yeah, I'll wait, yeah, okay. Joe, pleasure to meet you. Joe, good to see you. Hey, Joe, we've been doing this quarterback, throw thing at the end. I just want to let you know.

Brandon Bean hustled us out of a big money donation thing whenever he was golfing. You remember that? Oh, yeah. You lied about his score. Yeah, you remember that when he did that? He's stand back. So I would like to let you know, Joe, I'm not letting you throw. Mr. Bean, you're going to have to throw at the end of the city. I love it. Have that in your back of your mind. I love it. I love it. I love it.

Somehow I'm going to lose this bet. Yeah, certainly. I can't wait to see how much you donate. That's so cool that you're doing that. Bean, it feels like you love this entire process. We've had the opportunity. You've opened up your doors for us. to kind of watch through your eyes on how this whole process works. Whenever you get back out here, what is the thing that you're most eager for?

Is it learning about the guys? Is it what? Like, what is the thing that you're most eager? Or is it the backdoor booze and deals that are going on around town? What is it, though, for you that you look forward to most out here? Yeah, I mean, listen, it is fun to see everybody. The whole NFL is pretty much here for a week. But I think the funnest part for me is getting to get these meeting rooms for 20 minutes.

And it sounds boring, but just seeing that we're, these guys are, what their football foundation is, kind of what their knowledge is of the game, where they're going, who they've learned from, who they've played for. It's a chance to finally hear what they know. You see them with their helmet and their uniform on, but you really don't

know. Some guys look like they're smart, but you get them on the board. Maybe the guy next to them is a little lineman, maybe the guy next to them's kind of helping them, and they don't know as much. So we've been, we just literally finished again this morning with another eight or nine guys and we've got a few more later. Okay, so it's fire you up. I like that you have good energy in there. Is there anything that you

asked specifically that helps you know about the human a little bit like yesterday what did Schneier say was cereal to eat in the morning? And I gave him a full answer about fruity pebbles is the right answer because it's the most consistent and also never changed with any of the government bylaws. The cocoa puffs used to be much more cocoay and then

we had to get rid of some of the stuff and then it wasn't as good. Fruitie pebbles has remained great throughout the entirety and on the back of every fruity pebbles box you kind of learn something. There's some little trivia thing on there so I feel like I'm getting better in the morning. If I would have given him that answer, I'm sure that would have been an answer that they would have other people later like this fucking asshole just gave me this time.

But is there any of those things that are happening like for real? Because we've heard these stories like what's the appliance? What's this? Like are you asking any of these weird questions to try to get them off the script or is it just kind of like, hey, let's talk here and be a human and try to figure it out. Yeah, we don't get too crazy. I mean, Joe's got some pretty good questions. He throws out at him.

What do you do? What do you say? No, nothing. Yeah, I stole offense. See what they know. No, nothing. I just want to know football. Like just,

I like trying to get, you can tell when the guy, you ask him a question and that's what they've been practicing for the, last few months, right? So, look, I always like to ask them, like, hey, what's one play you want back? And, you know, football guys, right, they're naturally thinking about the, look, we don't want the negatives, right? But, like, when a guy sitting there and he's like, for 10 minutes, is like, I don't remember any play that I want back.

It's like, you know, are you going to bed thinking about football? You know, and what you learn from that? You know what I mean? Like, if it's going to happen again, do you remember, you know, so there's always, yeah, because you only think about the bad place. Yeah, you know, in my head. You're supposed to. I just went through.

Instantly. You said one play, you went back, and there was 14 things that I did that were the worst that I've ever done. And I wanted to never show my face in public again. You'd be surprised. Sometimes there's like, there's quarterbacks, right? And it's like, man, we played a bowl game a month ago. And it was like, how many touchdowns you throw this past year? And they know how many touchdowns, right?

And it was like, well, what was the play of the last touchdown? And don't remember. I'm like, well, there's going to be times where you're playing football. And, you know, you threw a pick that safety was off the hash cover too. And you're like, the next time I get that look, man, I'm not going to get fooled by it. But if you can't even remember the play call from your. you're, you know, you're touched. Drew Breeze, I bet if I ask Drew Breeze a play right now,

Sean Payton would talk about some things, and he'd be like 20 years ago, and he was like, that wasn't the play call. This was the play call. So that's just like the separator of, like, football IQ, it seems like, and also buy-in to ball. What has it been like with him as the head coach?

Sounds like you've really enjoyed the opportunity of a fresh conversation or a fresher conversation in these meetings. It's been great. You know, Joe's brought a great perspective just from an offensive guys. First time he's set in on defensive guys. So just kind of picking their brains.

He's probably stealing stuff for himself, but, But it's not smart, which is always smart. Hey, steal everything. Yeah, absolutely. But no, it's, it's been good. There's been a good energy. You know, we bring the position coach in as well who kind of, I kind of get teed off with him just to kind of get them warmed up, ask him a couple things. Just, you know, why did you, why did you come out early? Why did you transfer three times?

You know, the crazy world we're in. Was it just money? Was it an opportunity? Whatever it is. But at that point, turn it over to the position coach. He's kind of running the film or putting him on the board. And then Joe and I are kind of just chiming in, hey, what was your weight there? looked heavy this game or, you know, just kind of try to see what they own up to. Sometimes you're even asking them stuff about, hey, I know you got suspended for a game.

We kind of know why they got suspended, you know, a weed violation or one of them is covering up like a smoke detector in a hotel or something. Sure. Just see what they own up to. And if they, you know, of course, we've run into four or five guys that they're never going to smoke weed again. They should. Allegedly.

Hey, if it got them here, they need to keep doing it. Okay, that's my take on this entire thing. And Laramie Tunzel should have been the number one overall pick when that video came out and he didn't cough. That, his lungs were better than anybody's lungs in the history. I sent a text to the building, and I was like, hey, I've seen the particular device that is currently going viral right now. The fact that he did not cough tells me.

Go get him. He is. All pro. And look at them. Exactly. Those are my scouting things. You guys all have. Everyone's got your own.

Okay, you got your own. Last question for me, for the boys, have some. And we appreciate you guys. And we will appreciate the hell out of you as this continues to go for being so nice to us. Your organization is incredibly kind to us, always has been. And I don't know if you'll give me this away. But is there years where you're coming in knowing exactly what you're looking, like, hey, we need to do this, we need this, and we need this. Like, is there a hyper focus or are you looking for best players right now across?

No, we're truly looking for best players because one of the things about the draft, you don't know how free agency is going to play out, even with your own guys. How much money do you have? Not enough. 100 million is what Tennessee got yesterday we were talking about. Yeah, yeah. But it's only going up, though, it feels like. It is. But, you know, we know what the range is going to be.

We still, it's not a final number yet. But we got to work to get under? Yeah, we're probably going to be 15 to 19, 20 over that we got to get under. And we've already started doing some maneuvers. We restructured Spencer Brown the other day to get, you know, 10 and a half back. But we know we have some more work to do over the next couple weeks so that, A, we can get under and be we can make you know the moves we need to make AJ has a question if you guys yeah I guess you got a quarterback that we pay that makes life a

little easier for us too yeah anytime you're talking to anybody that comes at a combine there's there's two there's halves and a half knots the halves are the ones have a quarterback okay and the have knots are oh we got to build a team around this guy yeah yeah you know it's a different animal not being up 50 with my homes chiefs did I think last week or whatever just because you know his contract is used I'm sure josh will do that so you're trying to learn are you trying to learn well there's one thing to free it up is an another if he would give something back. That's what that's,

so if you can talk to Josh and tell him to give him some back. Josh has been. He's a father now. Yeah, he's going to give him more. He's busy. Congrats. Trying to stupid from his kids. Yeah, that's an asshole.

Good Lord. Those are going to be golden diapers. He earned it, by way. Earned it. Both of you, but coach, you can go first. I guess when you're watching guys run and workout, let's say today, are you just trying to, like, say you're really high on certain people from their film and

their tape and their production. Are you just, are you just, You're just trying to confirm, like, hey, this guy's not, you know, he plays very fast on film, but I don't want him to run to 4-8-5 if he's playing linebacker. Are you just trying to confirm what you see on film for the guys you like? And then, like, how do you balance that with some of these guys that jump out of nowhere, I guess, to the casual fan? All of a sudden have a great combine. You think, oh, this guy's super fast.

He's going to be a great football player, which isn't always the case. Like, how do you balance that, I guess? Yeah, we'll shoot. Sometimes there's guys that we know play really fast, and you hope they run a 4-8. It helps us a little bit. Yeah, you celebrate. Yeah. You celebrate.

You know, hey, good. Nice 40, man. Good slow start. Yeah, no, there's, look, at the end of the day, right, this is important, right? That's why we're here. But, you know, they put a lot of, a lot of clips together. Their resume is on tape already. I mean, like, you play lineback or Ohio State.

Like, that's, I could have had a great workout or not, but you saw what I looked like when I was playing. No, trust me. You know, look, I'm sitting a lot of formals with all these defensive players, right? So I'm learning all this stuff right now. So I see what it was like. But, yeah, I mean, look, I like watching what they're like when they're not doing the drills. Are they out by them? You know, you're looking at all the little things, not just the way out.

Are they thanking the trainer, giving them the water bottle? Are they squirting? Are they squirting their own water in the water? Do you guys have a rule on that? That's a big one. Do you have a rule on that? Do you have a rule? Especially if you don't really know the trainers too, and you're sitting your hands on their hips

and they're squirting water in your mouth. Like, he might be crossed off the list. No, but we are looking at it. Look, you look at everything right now, right? That's what, everything's an interview right now. So it's just depending on what you take stock in. But yeah, no, it's all important. You guys have the greatest training staff in the NFL

I would say they won awards for it. There's the entire thing. They're not spraying water in anybody's mouth, right? No. Yeah, we are on a crusade against that because they were starting to come into football a little bit. No, we don't need that. Like if your gloves, I understand if there's a situation.

I've got to be more alert to this. Yes, you do. I'm bothered right now. It's about. How tired you are, you can grab that water bottle and squirt in your mouth. And also, this crew We don't give water.

Help save. Or that even more water. Even better. Salt tabs. Get it yourself. You better get the paddles to it. But it feels like if somebody was to not do that for me, just like AJ said, I would just rule them out. And I think you guys have an incredible culture.

So like finding the humans and how they interact and everything, it seems like is the most vital part of what you have going on right now if they match your culture. Is there people that get in there after you pick them and go, I was wrong. I was wrong on this? Yeah. Byers remorse, I guess, would happen all the time. Yeah, I think also. Or, wow. I didn't expect this guy to be as awesome as a Buffalo bill.

It's been both. But yeah, there's sometimes you're like, man, I didn't, I didn't expect this. But that's where you hope a strong culture can, hey, let's pull them over. Let's don't let them drift over here. Let's help pull them over. There's always guys you say, hey, if that guy went to the wrong city or the wrong team lookout. And we talk about that. Hey, he's got some things.

Do we think our culture is strong enough to handle this guy? Or do we think he's too far over here? He's just not going to be a fit. he's going to be a turnoff to his teammates. We don't hate weed and Buffalo. It gets gold up there. You've got to be in the house. Yeah.

It's all right. Connor has a question for you guys. Yeah, Ben. Brett Veach said something pretty interesting, just about the Combine in general and the draft. He said, you know, 25 of their top 100 players are going back to college now. And that's something that isn't normal, per se, but it's something that will probably continue to go.

Have you seen that now with the Combine and with the draft in general that there are older players and you have to kind of factor that in a little bit, just because guys have stayed in college six, seven years at this point. And is that something that you also expect will affect the draft and just kind of how you look at it going forward? And are younger players more out of premium now than ever because of that sense? Or is that something that doesn't matter? You're just looking for production once they're in the NFL? Well, you are looking for, you know, young guys that you feel can still grow, not the guys that are not at their ceiling.

That's exciting. But and I do, and I will agree with that to it. there's guys now that we're grading as underclassmen that years ago you'd be like there's no way he's not coming out he's going in the second round third round the money's going to be too good but they're they're still taking it down to the end waiting and and some of them are going if I'm a first round pick I'm coming out if I'm not I'm if I'm in the second I want to come back and see if I can get myself into the first round and listen there's agents there's you know coaches from college calling where do you guys see this guy we're trying to educate ourselves but the money so good. I mean, you get two, three million bucks to come back, guaranteed money. You know, it's, I understand why these guys are going back. Whenever you think about the NIL era and everything that's happening right now, you being in the building, I think, is good news because you know the culture, you know the team, you know everything like that.

But obviously you coach in college and you get to the NFL, you do your thing. Have you seen a generational change here? Like, I don't know how you're going to coach. Yeah. I haven't been in there. But they talk about, you know, like I think a benefit to the NIL era is these guys, go through their first amount of money earlier. So like the fat pocket syndrome that happens to guys potentially has already happened maybe,

hopefully. You would assume so you guys don't have to deal with that. But there's obviously other drawbacks as well. How have you kind of experienced this modern era as a coach? I know Josh Allen's cowboy from out in the middle of nowhere, but whenever this younger generation has to mix with you olds in there, how has it? And what is that for you as you view it? Well, it is unique, right?

Like, you watch the draft. Like, I remember growing up, you'd watch and everybody would get drafted. I mean, everybody's crying. It's like you finally have an opportunity to make money. We're now guys are like, I'm actually taking a pay cut in some sense, right? You know, actually. But on the flip side, a lot of times you draft the guy and money is going to change him. Well, we already know what money looks like with this guy.

You know, we've seen, hey, did the NIL that it impact him in college? You know, he got paid his sophomore year. And, man, after a sophomore year, it declined. So we already know that money impacted him. We don't have to wait until we draft them in the first round. And then it's like, oh, what's it going to look like? So it's a different type of player, but at the end of the day, I do think that the money, in a sense,

has helped us kind of understand what we're getting a little more. Are you two going to be on the same page with Picks, or are you going to be jumping on the table for a guy, and he's going to go behind the door and say, unlike a guy, I heard that's what happens with you guys. I heard that's what I have. You see that dynamic already. That whole process, obviously that clip was huge,

and everything in the NFL is huge. But what is that dynamic? Because obviously you've been there on that. you've done a lot of these. He has witnessed you do it. You have a lot of success. We go through your shit. You have a lot of success.

Now, obviously, having one of Super Bowl said is all you're being judged upon, just like Josh, just like what's happening in Baltimore with Lamar. But when it comes to like making selections, how much,

do you guys agree beforehand? Like, how much input? Like, how does that kind of come about? Yeah, I mean, I think everything you do, listen, at the end of the day, he's got to make decisions on fourth down. He's got to make decisions whether to, what we're going to do with a coin toss.

Yeah, you like points, right? We kick field goals. I like, I like points. I like touchdowns too, though, but I like points. Okay. Go to do it. Take the field goal. But no, I think it's one of those things.

Listen, we're collaborative. We're in lockstep. And the thing about Joe is we've been through this. We've talked about free age in the past. We've talked about draft. Joe's set in the draft room last year to just kind of see some of our process. Because a couple, about three weeks before the draft, we bring the coaches in and just kind of hear their opinion. We keep them separate from the scouting opinion right now.

just to see they've zoomed this player, they've met them here, they might have gone to a pro day, bring them in. And then, you know, Joe and I were talking last year. And he was like, man, I'd love to see what y'all do after we come in there. So not walk on in. The doors open. And so he kind of saw our process a little bit more. So this year we'll continue, you know, to kind of do that.

And he sees the process. At the end of the day, it's about getting right for the bills. It's not about who I want. It's not about who he wants. There may be an area scout that stands on the table, quote, unquote. and, you know, convinces us this is the guy or this is not the guy. And we just got to get it right for us. Like I said, it's not going to, I don't think it's going to be a big deal.

We go through every scenario beforehand. So when we're getting close to the clock, we've already talked about kind of which way we're going to lean if it's down to this guy or that guy. How many picks do you have? We have seven. I got a good news for you, buddy. You got me some more picks? No, we'd like one of those. Stephen Holder's reporting.

The Indianapolis Colts have given Anthony Richardson permission to seek a trade given his unscored. certain future in indie ESPN has learned he was number four overall picked so you give us your first and Josh maybe yeah swap Josh and Anthony yeah see remember we're talking about this what last year exactly they did something to think about Joe oh hey Joe remember when they drafted Josh you weren't here yeah you're not your guy all right this interview is over on that note Anthony if you do find a new team good luck dude honestly I mean between injuries missing, learning how to become a pro with not a lot of football, and then the freak accident happening in the adult.

Fresh start could be incredible. And if it's for the Buffalo Bill's number one overall pick, we would certainly be pumped up about that. Tone has a question for you guys. Yeah, being the interview, can't be over because we haven't done our annual tradition yet. I'm not sure if you've seen wide receiver class is pretty good. Let's go. Who do you like?

Who do you like? Who do you like? Who's the wide receiver this year? I like them all. There's some good ones. We've interviewed a few years. But so do you, I listen to Daniel Jeremiah a lot. He talks about putting guys in the same neighborhood and the same houses and the same clusters.

And there's a lot of slot wide receivers. And then there's a lot of bigger wide receivers. How do you, like, how do you guys go about that as far as like different body types and different how you judge wide receivers? Do you put them in different groups like that versus slot versus outside? And how does that go for you guys? Yeah, we talk about both. And we talk about versatility. Is the guy an outside guy only?

Is he a slot only? And some of that can can determine their value. And like you may have the physical skill set to play inside and outside, but mentally you can't do it, which is one of the things we're trying to figure out. So is this guy a one spot guy mentally, and then is he a one spot guy physically? The guys that you love, you can't get your hands on enough are the guys like a Khalil Shakir that we got. Khalil is super smart, can play anywhere. He's an inside guy first, but he can go outside and play.

So you're looking for as many pieces so that Joe and Pete Carmichael can, you know, when they come out of the huddle, you don't know where they're going to line up. You know, we do the same with our tight-end group, our running back group. Just try to have as many different positionless players so that when you come out of the huddle, that just creates opportunities, you know, to get the right mismatch. I don't want to just pivot completely away from scouting wide receivers. But as you were talking about playing inside, playing outside, I just started thinking about your offense and how awesome it is with Josh and James Cook.

Once you became the guy, a year and a half ago, felt like James Cook just let James Cook. Kind of became the thing. head coach now calling plays yeah still you see a lot of guys giving it up Sean gave it up Canales gave it up Doug Peterson when he went down to Jacksonville gave it up obviously you haven't been a head coach yet throughout season so you have no clue how it actually is

I guess they say there's no guide or any of that type of shit but how do you kind of envision that as being the head coach and a play caller while not getting stuck in just being an offensive guy yeah no and I think that was the important part of putting together to the staff right like Pete Carman everybody talks about like offensive head coach you need your defensive coordinator

but that was so important by me getting Pete Carman Michael is my offense a guy, right? He's a guy that's been this non-play calling offensive coordinator for so many years that while I'm on the sideline, I'm not just focused strictly on the offense. When defense is on the field, I can be the head coach, right? And so having a guy that I can lean on throughout the games, that's going to be critical. We talked to McDaniel yesterday, and he was wearing a $3,500 jacket, I guess. His shoes were probably the same.

Yeah, he already had the head coach and contract. You guys saw it, AFC, E, C, I see. It was really good times for you guys, I guess, throughout it all. that he was obviously here. And his late motions with the fastitudes on the field change football. I think everybody kind of started getting into it, how you started doing it. And then the defense kind of caught up. We're all kind of having the same conversation about that.

Even him, he's saying. He's like, now you just kind of got to think of the next chess move. Like the defense caught up. Now we've got to think of the next chess move. Is that how you're viewing it to whenever you think about your offense? How do you like kind of view the going into the season with your offense on how you build from last year into next year? Well, I think you think about offense, but you're really studying all the defense across the league, right?

Like, we're just trying to break all their rules, right? And everybody's studying, if you're just studying the offenses across the league, I think you're picking up some things, but you're not beating what the rest of the league is kind of, it's all, it ends up being in a circle, right? We all end up running the same plays and what everybody was running five years ago, and everybody found the beaters. You know, in 10 years, everybody's going to run in those defenses again and whatnot. So I spend a lot of time studying the defenses and just trying to break their roles.

Should we expect bigger dudes, slower dudes, because everything was getting fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, should we expect this type of event combine to get bigger and a little bit slower maybe because football is going back to ground and pound potentially? Or is there going to be a good hybrid of this wide open, super fast, and physical football? Like, how do you kind of see what football players are about to look like over the next 10 years in the NFL? I think they're going to continue to get bigger, stronger, faster. But the game, as Joe was saying, you know, back in Josh's earlier years,

we were running a lot of 10, 11 personnel. we're spreading people out. And then the defense has started getting more athletic guys to match that. So what do you do? You get into 21, 12, 13. You saw a lot of that this year. So you look at the NFC championship game. Rams in Seattle.

There was a lot of 12, a lot of 13 by those guys. So as everyone gets to doing that, if all the, you know, all the offenses start doing that and the defenses start changing, guess what? As Joe said, it'll start. getting faster and start spreading guys back out again. AJ has a question for you guys. Yeah, let's say both of you were QB prospects. Like, say first, second round pick, would you throw here at the combine?

Top 10, top 10. Top 10, top 20. Would you throw? Oh, top 20, that's good goal. Look, I think anytime you've got a chance to compete, let's go compete. Okay. Okay, so you're viewing the opportunity to compete with others, as opposed to having timing down and all that with the wide receivers and being scared

that a wide receiver you work with at school runs and out at an exact distance. This is what this guy does. This kid that I've never met before runs terrible routes. Like that's a part of this guy. And he's nowhere near where he's supposed to be. And I miss him and I'm going to look bad. And some other guy is going to look good. Like I think that is the fear, right?

Yeah. And I say that I sucked at football, right? So she has to go compete, right? But Josh Allen was out here, right? He was out here going. And that's just kind of who he is. It's, look, I might overthrow some balls. It might not look good.

But again, I put a lot of clips together on tape the whole season, and you just see me go out and there compete and just an opportunity, and you see how that kind of looks. So I'm not going to knock guy for not, but you love to see a guy that's like, I don't care. Just put the ball down. Let's go play. And that's what you, I think that's your angle.

Yeah, I think you just go out and compete. I can't remember where some quarterback got dramatically hurt or lost stock because of the combine. Like, oh, man, you were missing guys left and right. I'm not saying it didn't. I just don't recall. And I like guys that want to compete, want to go out there. I mean, was it Megatron or whoever the one year wasn't going to run?

And then just was like, I'm too competitive. He took somebody else's cleats. Yeah, the agent probably told him, and he had him his mind warped the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, the freaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, we don't need a stretchless guy. But that's like you love that.

Like, this dude's competitive. I mean, you go back to Josh. Josh was just going to play at the senior bowl for a little bit. You know, I know talking to his agency, he wasn't supposed to play after halftime. It didn't go well in the second quarter as well as he wanted. And he went in at halftime and told him, no, I'm coming out in the third quarter to play. I love that. Josh is a grown-ass man, though.

Yeah. Got a family. Go ahead, Connor. Well, I was going to say, as far as measurements go, Josh Allen had biggest, biggest, tall, strongest hands. And that was like his big thing coming out because Wyoming, not many guys knew about him. But then when he came to the combine and got measured, it was like, oh, this guy's a freak. And now that's what this week is kind of about is people get measured. And then it's like, oh, well, this guy is short arms.

Yeah, 30-inch. charm so who knows what the hell he's going to be like do you guys value that more than other teams is it a combination of measurement with you know bench press because a j mentioned yesterday you know he put two 25 25 26 27 times that's and he was all bummed out yeah exactly exactly that's how he felt too yeah but then coach told him like that doesn't mean anything we don't really care about that that much doesn't matter yeah so do measurements kind of value more than you know actual reps, is it something like that or is it kind of a combination of the two? Because I assume when you saw Josh Allen had 30-inch hands, you're like, holy shit.

Buffalo. We need this guy on a team of Buffalo. Yeah, I mean, you do look at it. It's all one piece of the puzzle, and that's the other thing about competing here. Let's say you want to, and I think some guys do it, let's say you run a great 40 here. You know what? Don't worry about it at your pro day. Just go do your position drills or whatever.

But if you don't, if it doesn't go well, to me, you've got a backstop. You got a retake of a test. let me go do my, oh, I didn't do the vertical grade in indie. Let me go do it here at my pro day and just focus on the position. He also drafted the fastest 40. Yeah, Maxwell Hirschie. Yeah. Speed kills, brother.

Yeah, he does. Arms. Yeah. Cash is howl, Texas A&M, Ruben Bain. A lot of tweets coming out about if they were to make it, those would be like the two shortest arms. Since 99. In pass rushing history of the NFL or something like that.

For that position, those types of things matter. because we watch Bain and HAL. So good. Game demolishers. You know, like absolutely in the college football playoff, but also through college. NFL is different. It's a different game, different humans, different builds, everything like that. How much should we be talking about Ruben Bain's in Cash's House?

Arm length? Should we? And like, all those other things that we hear. How much should we be overreacting to them, you think, in your eyes? No, I think it matters. It really does. But what you want to try to do is find Ruben Bain, what are the best, you know, offensive tackles,

defensive lineman that he went against. And how did he do? Take great. Just go through those matchups. And so those are more like the players he's going to see at this level. And how does, you know, what is his counters? Does he even have counters? And some of these guys, it's like, what arsenal do they already have?

What can you teach them? Now, if you see this guy, he's got a full arsenal now. He's ready to roll and he's beating, you know, guys that are not going to play in the NFL, then that's a red flag. But if those are the only guys he's beating. But if he's beating guys that are going to be playing on Sunday, then that kind of is a, you know, a glimpse into what you're going to see. How big are the damn bison?

They're very, very big. Are they up? Are they up yet? I've seen pictures. They're not up. Bigger than this form? Is this where the chest is? Right here, you look up.

25 feet. To the top? To the top or the chest? No, to the top. Can you walk under it and put your arms up and watch his genitals? Genitals. There will be the Pac-McCafee show in the Buffalo. You got to be pretty big, though.

27,000 pounds. bison that's how much it is 27,000 pounds you guys rolling that thing in one of those oversized loads with a bunch of cops kind of driving it across the country i think you guys should do your show like on a truck while they're being unveiled like that'd be cool i mean they're in pennsylvania they're in pennsylvania they're in pennsylvania they're coming to new york so who made them you can get somewhere in pitiful buffalo the quakers i should it's people maybe omish maybe i'm making it hollow pregnant it had to be that heavy could be hollow are they uh it's hollow oh it's hollow Oh, that thing's going to blow away.

You can walk in. 25 feet high, hollow? In Buffalo? That thing is going to get some snow on its back and we're broken back. We know if they're male. We know if they're male or female? We've got a family. We're covering everybody.

You got to bring your family to the game. You got a little baby bicycle. AJ's pretty interested in the male. It is kind of weird. You do sculptures. You do have to make a decision on what the genitals are. It's an artist. It's an artist.

I will. Right. I can't wait to get up there. Right. And Rye won these bikes. Yes. I can't wait to get it. I think you should be part of the unveiling of it.

I don't think I should be. That honor is crazy. Your last home game with the videos afterwards and everything like that. Everyone's staying. Dude, that was, I got emotional because I played there, obviously. It's one of those places, legendary places that you get to play at. But watching your fan base, like say goodbye to a place that has been so much to them, I like got emotional watching that.

So I don't think we deserve to be at the unveiling of the next one. You should let Bill's Muffe. you do that but day two will come sure we'll certainly come and kind of check it all out i'm excited for the unveiling feels like you guys got a lot of special stuff happening no we do we're excited about the stadium i mean we're finally moving to grass and uh which is going to be cool and a lot of our players are excited what you got you got uh it's 60 percent of the of the seat 60 percent but the protect players yeah but you're still going to see when you watch tv buffalo should be outside jeez jeez i scared that hell we got going here wow wow i don't know

know where that was coming from. All right. We're ready to go. That was one of those, bison. But when you watch the bills on TV, the players are going to be out there playing in the snow, what you would expect Buffalo football to look like. I think we have to. And all these stadiums are starting to look the same.

Your guys has looked really cool. I'm excited to get up there. In fact, that it's so close. Yeah. You know, that's like the... That is true beauty. True beauty. Good for you guys, Buffalo Nians.

Nah, if you don't want a Super Bowl, everybody say you guys suck. That's the way the world is. That really legitimately is. Yeah, right now we're just focused on how we use our water bottles. Thank you. Yeah, boo. I'm glad you remember that. One step out of time.

Full transparency. So, Josh, it's happened to me before. He'll unscrew the top a little bit. Yeah, yeah. So now I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm trying to get guys to actually use the water bottles. But next thing you know, it's, you got to be smart about it. It's much worse if somebody else is doing it, it falls off. That's true.

Yeah, like if I'm, pff. Then they feel bad. That's true. Yeah, the loose and the water bottle trick. Oh, classic. I think Dee came up with that. Yeah. I've learned.

He's been around. I've been around. I've been around a while. I've been around a while. We're on Josh Allen. You can get cold of them. Yeah, I love that that. I love that he is carrying that tradition.

I do. I appreciate that. I don't want to say that Peyton loved that thing, but Peyton set up emergency fake phone calls to get people to answer the phone, to call for somebody. Like, fool. It was the best thing I've ever seen. He got someone at the pro-ball.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, all those things. Eli was, yeah. Those are just classic football, like, just since the beginning of time kind of roll through it but i think i was in the training room like vinnet terry was getting something i'm like bullshit and whatever and then there's like an emergency that happens in a back room like a phone call somebody chaotic what he goes runs over who are you looking for d and then down the hole comes screaming d's not it's like i'm like oh my god i got to be watching my shit around

training camp with the bucket or the trash can oh yeah oh my god yeah they were unbelievable i mean fucking water. No, when Josh asks a question, I don't answer. I just stare at it for a second. Let me just think it could be completely a serious question. It could be football related. I'm like there might be something to it. Yeah, but you got to have the answer, though.

You got to have the answer. And when he calls you and he says, hey, draft this guy. You better make that happen. You better stand on a table for a guy because we've heard about it. All right. Let's get to, let's get to. Would you do a throw? You have to.

I'm going to force you to do. Things got it. Okay. Joe, I would normally put you in a position to have. to do this you don't want to see that okay so you're an ass football thrower yes that's you got to be one of the only offense guru uh i threw baseball the baseball in me throughout the arm so i can yeah okay okay that's a fucking i know of my blues it is Brandon Bean uh hustled us uh I don't know if you know the story he uh he hustled us on a local golf course uh and then but it was for a good cause

it was for a good cause allegedly it was definitely a good cause was that Danno or him that scratched out a few schools that was out 18 don't put that on me Yeah, I wouldn't, you know. You shoot 72, though, on the regular. Dan's also an idiot. He just can't add. All right, here we go. Yeah, that could be the case. Mr. Bean, if you would come up here on to the pat. Yep, you could take that thing if you want to.

Mr. Bean, you've obviously done wonderful things with your athletic abilities for us to raise some money. Okay, we certainly appreciate that. How old are you, sir? 49. Damn! Oh, you look good. These guys look good. It's crazy.

Everybody looks good. Yeah, he's like 30. Yeah, he's really, basically. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Me and Joe have a similar situation happening. You look very. good. Usually the watts age poorly. You

look fantastic. Now, Mr. Bean, how often do you throw football around? Only when Josh Allen throws it at me during practice. Okay, how often is that, actually? That's probably twice a week. Okay, so then he throws back to him? He's trying to hit me. Yeah. Skipping.

And the jumps. Indeed. And one again, that's classic. That's classic old school football. This is culture. You guys are doing everything that old school football used to do. Yeah. Tom Brady, okay, just fun fact here. Tom Brady were playing up in New England.

Me and Venetary are standing on the sidelines, I don't know, 50 yards away, and a ball comes skipping right by Venetary's like legs and then off the wall over there and you turn around and Tom's like, this close, buddy. And I'm like, oh my God, this is amazing. Okay, Mr. Bean, Josh Allen is not throwing a ball at your junk, but we do need to see you throw this ball into that hole. If you're able to make it into that hole right there, a $100,000 donation to a charity you're choosing. Yesterday, almost everybody

made it except for a GM. GM was the only person that missed it. He might have had a little bit of beer in him as well, which we certainly... Would have gone in the top. Respect. Top's not open. All right, Brandon, good luck with the throw. It's about a... I'd say it's about 10-yard throw. Ten-yard throw. All you're to do is throw a little bit of a seed. Yeah, the hole is

smaller than it appears, but big enough for you to win. Fire that pigskin, Bean. Let's go ahead and win some money. Oh! That's a good. Okay. Okay. I like that you went for. He was saying back this again. that you didn't guide that. You know, you could tell. Oh, that baby.

Wait, which GM didn't make it? Schneider. Oh, yeah. Salas still has a story. He's good. He's all right now. He gets a pass right now. He won. Okay, boys, thank you for joining us. Shout out. Obviously. The, uh, legend. He needs that. Shut out. Derek Boyko, legend. Yeah, he certainly needs that. I know that's a part of, uh, his life. He needs to hear that. He does. He does. From my understanding. Yes. Boyko needs to hear that. Boyko, you did good, man.

Where to go, Derek. There you go, Boyko. Look at a smile on his face. So proud of you, Boyko. Boyko, PR guy from the NFL that doesn't hate us. We like them. Yeah, one of the few. Pretty cool.

We are very, very thankful for him. We are very appreciative of you guys' entire organization. Good luck this entire off season. And yeah, thank you for being so hospitable to us. Good luck to you, man. Head coach is a big fucking deal. Appreciate you, man. You should enjoy all of it.

Remember, your conversation with people is the most important conversation that they've ever had in their entire life now. That's real. You too. You know that as well. You just so happen upon a guy who's like fifth, six-rounder here. and any you talk to him, hey, what's up, man, how you doing? Oh, I'm good, how are you?

Good, thank you, and walk away. That's a great point. I'm going to the bills. You can't still have that? They still have it, because that's how it was when we were coming up. I would assume they still have that same, like, oh, my goodness, and they think about that conversation for the next three days. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of...

You can tell when the guys that have done their research. Yeah, hey, you're on a trainer, some people think. Well, oh, no. A slap dick. Sir, if you grab me some coffee, please. Owner's son. Okay. Thank you, boys.

good luck. All right, we're going to wrap up this hour one here as Bean is kind of being held hostage. He cannot get up and leave because if he was to do that, he would walk in front of every camera. And he also doesn't know if he's supposed to dab everybody up. How much time do I have? So you're just going to hold tight for about 40 seconds. In the second hour, we have Randy Orton joining us. I saw the Viper walking around. You might want to draft him. Randy Orton might be pretty good outside linebacker.

There's a chance that could be the case. We also have Governor Mike Braun joining us about the Indiana, potentially stealing the bears. Okay, that's potentially happening. Nick Casario, do you know him? He heard of them. You guys fight each other or what? No, Nick's a good man. He is good man.

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That's what we're all here celebrating. The entire NFL has come to India. Indianapolis, Indiana to figure out who the next class will be that will carry the NFL into a fortuitous future in which we are already seeing the peaks of audience and captivating entertainment. Yeah, I mean, nailed it. Absolutely everything. 126 million people watch the Super Bowl. It was the most boring game of football that we have maybe ever had. All people like is ball.

And now we find out who the next torch bearers of the NFL will be here on this beautiful field, here at the lot. Hottahas, Lucas Oil Stadium. A lot of workouts on the field today. Yesterday was the kickers and a punter's day. They certainly did fantastic. Eckley out of Michigan State certified. Yeah, he's the punter out of Michigan State. We didn't know who he was.

We were just watching numbers, kick balls down on the field. He was the one. This guy is the one. There was two guys, I think, that I saw yesterday, certified NFL guys. It was Bjorn, the kid from Georgia. Thorson, yeah. Bjorn Thorson and his Eckley fella. And I didn't get to see all the kickers because it was live whenever we were here.

But that's the type of thing that you can do with the combine. You can separate yourself from the class. They have him as a potential top 50 player in the entire draft. And I'll tell you what, yesterday he hit one shank out of like 16, 17 hits or whatever. It was an ass kick. He needs to go end over end to his left. If you're listening right now, brother, don't even worry about turning that thing over to the left. You got a strong enough leg.

Go ahead and hit the end over end ball. Okay, that's what I did. Your miss is my miss, brother. Let's get that out of our life as fast as possible. Let's turn it over to the right. He was special. Today, many other guys can prove that they are that. We're lucky to be here.

We're thankful to be here. One half of the Hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here. You look fantastic. One half of the Toxie table at Boston Conner is here. Sweet hoodie. What was the, we went back to the zoo today? What was this all about?

Funny enough, I cleaned out my car for the first time about two years. Found this thing buried down there. And I said, man, where have you been my whole life? I've been missing you so much. So I figured I'd wear it again. Hey, that's like when you find 20 bucks in your pocket. Bingo, exactly. I just want shopping.

Yeah, let alone all the bad stuff that was in my car. That should have been thrown out a long time ago, but finding a couple of these hidden gems, it's magical. Yeah, the fact that you had that many pee bottles sitting behind your driving, it was disgusting. I mean, you're pooping in a bottle while you're driving, that's unbelievable. Sometimes if you had no bags, so not as much bottles there, pooping bags. I like that you're doing any of that type of stuff.

And obviously smack the bag, shit the bag, whatever you need to do. You got to certainly do. I was in Foxy's car the last couple of days. He's driving a shit bucket, too. I know exactly how much money all these guys are making and Foxy is disrespecting his life in what he is doing. If you want to look tough, look physical

and kick some ass on the road, you drive a Ford Bronco, brother. That is okay. His is actually 86. You should have seen me get in there. I opened a window up. I did the electric windows, electric start. There was a guy in the elevator. I want to kick his ass for talking shit about my car too.

That guy has no physicality at all. This is an inside conversation. There are a couple girls. There are a couple girls who said, oh, that's a very cute guy. And then we opened the door, and then they saw it. You had to slide the lock open and do the entire thing, and then you had to lift it up to shut the door. It is nice.

He still has a cigarette lighter in there. Yeah, exactly. Which was nice. I needed that. I actually put that thing down. And also, whenever you smoke at his car, it's a better smell than the car that smell that was in. Talk about poop.

It is Foxy. appreciate you, certainly shuttling around. We need to respect what we do for a living and how we do it a little bit better for yourself, okay, and for your family. I'm driving a monster truck around. That's how I view. Yeah, but it gets alphaed by other cars whenever we're sitting there. I mean, there's really, you're a wonderful soul. You truly are.

And I'm happy you're keeping your car clean for the first time in two years. 13 year. Oh, sorry. How many years were you in the NFL? 11 year NFL. 11 year NFL vet, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, AJ Hawke is here. See that you stopped at a truck store again and truck stop and got another wardrobe change for yourself. Yeah, you know what?

I just can't, it's hard to walk by any shirt or hat in these truck stops and not buy it. I never know. Who knows what's going to happen tomorrow. Hold on, though. Will you think about our program? Cummins Diesel. Will you please? Steve Ackles is here.

Great year. Monday night football buddy. So the, speaking of that, okay, Steve Ackles. So the people that are actually doing TV, Taylor's, think about that. Oh, yeah. Tailors, suits. Oh, yeah. Combine.

Best thing. Bottom of car, underneath bottles for two years. What? loves truck stop. This got delivered from Amazon this morning. Coupandy. We need to start taking ourselves more serious. And if we do that, maybe we'll take it to the next level.

True, you're right. Speaking of going to the next level, there's a man that went down to Houston in the middle of a burning ship. The entire place was on fire. Literally. This guy was wearing a headset up in the booth. Everybody's thinking to himself, why is this guy got calms to the sideline?

He's meddling, he's meddling, he's meddling. Well, what we found out was he needed to meddle maybe a little bit of, bit more. Couple changes, couple roster turnover, draft to quarterback, draft to pass Russia, and all of a sudden, the Houston Texans are a Super Bowl threat every single year. Out of the AFC South, ladies and gentlemen, Pisano, Nick Casario. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, thank you. Good to see you.

He's a speed. He's a great shit. He gets you. It's got stuff to do. I don't know. That's actually a really good question. We're going to, he looks like he's a runner. On clouds, you would assume.

He's doing triathlons. Are you a runner? It's making sure I wasn't getting an RKI. RK out of nowhere. I am, he's out there. He's lurking. He might be, yeah.

He's right there. I mean, he's right there. The orangutan that is the 14-time world champion. Randy Orton is over there. Not a runner. Versa climber. It's a great machine.

Kind of and then, you know, maybe some. You don't swim? No swim. I can't run long distance. I just, that's not my thing. I think they've got a cartilage surgery that's coming out. They've been saying that for the last 20 years. Are you no music, no TV?

just like psycho want to kind of music or podcast so I mean my podcast choice probably isn't for everybody I'm probably listening a bunch of finance podcast investment advice I want to shift years no Gary Vee I love Gary V you went through a Gary V run though we all did we know you did and I'm seeing music I'll go to music so a combination of the two a combination okay let's talk about you doing podcast and finance and things like that how do you think that does that benefit you as a general man like how do you tie everything back to your gig like do you think everything tries help you or is that like you trying

learn about something different it's twofold pat honestly i enjoy finance i enjoy investments i mean i started my career in finance before i decided i was going to get into football like a moron but i mean moron houston texans are for real brother i think you made a right decision i'm interested in finance i enjoy the markets i started the markets i mean honestly like we're managing businesses to some degree you're looking for trends we're looking for different ideas so i mean it's just i have a personal interest in that topic and i enjoy it and i keep track of what's going on and i have my money in the market so I'm trying to make sure I'm aware and if there's some ideas or trends that there's some relevance then you know like might be able to incorporate them to some of the

things that we're doing we're thankful you left the money markets because you know that thing just goes round and around right now be careful well they're saying a lot of bad things coming but then I'm hearing speeches saying it's only going up the world you know everybody's going to get their job I'll tell you what AI though will certainly help you make some music quickly if you want to make a highlight tape in about four or five minutes other things yes they we're wheel. No, it can distill information down pretty quickly. Oh, you're using it. It sounds like, okay, so let's

move into the next generation of ball in scouting. You guys are trading C.J. Stroud. Are you doing that here or when? He must have listened to my press conference. Yeah, you caught him. I'm sorry to disappoint everybody. Okay, so let's talk about that. So he obviously doesn't play his best ball down and stretch. He plays a lot of really good defenses. You guys

had an incredible defense. The reason why having an incredible defense is good is because you went in a game. The reason why it might not be good is because if a quarterback doesn't play good, all of a sudden, Trent Delfare gets brought up. Like, hey, this team was only winning because the defense, because the defense. We think C.J. Stroud special. We love C.J. Stroud. We know you feel the same way. Did you expect the conversation or the narrative to potentially build that he might move on? And kind of how do you handle that with C.J. himself? Yeah, I mean, honestly, you try not to pay

too much attention to it. But if you feel like you have to address something and felt like that was the appropriate thing to do, I mean, he's our quarterback. He's played a lot of good football for us, to your point. He's had some good games. He's had some games. Look, all of us. I mean, there's some ups and downs, things you have to deal with. So glad he's our quarterback. know, glad he's going to be here for next season and we want him here. And I think all players learn, I don't want to speak for you guys, but, you know, after each season go back, what are some of the things that did well? What are some of the areas you can improve on? I think sometimes when you just accentuate the negative and you're just taking a microcosm of one particular game, look, we didn't play our best game.

The Patriots played better than we did. And that's the way it goes. So, I mean, all of us in the off season are trying to improve, trying to find ways and things that we can do better. And that's where the focus is going to be. Okay, I love that you're focusing on the positive. It's continue to get better. you guys have gotten way too good too quickly. I hate it, but it is being cool

for the AFC South to watch you guys do your thing. Feel like you have hit in this department on a pretty regular basis to flip this Houston team around. Is this something that you love? Like, why do you think you've had success in the entire draft process? Yeah, I think all elements of the process are important. A combine is a big part of it.

I think the interpersonal element. Honestly, we utilize our time here to spend time with the players and more on the interview front. What they do on the field? I mean, it's a component. I mean, honestly, D'Amico and I are leaving this afternoon. So we're going to watch the workouts on television. So we'll get the information. And if that's a great job, we'll get the data.

And yeah, you can watch as much as you need to. But in the end, their performance on the field, what they do on tape, ultimately, that's going to be the judge of what we think we have in the player. And if there's something else that or some measurement that you think you can, that you have that you think is going to help you, then we'll utilize it. So there's a lot of players here at the combine that are going to get drafted. Honestly, there's a lot of players that aren't the combine. They're probably going to get drafted and kind of end up on teams.

So good players come from a lot of different spots. So, I mean, we use this as a good tool for us, and there's going to be other opportunities for it to evaluate. I wasn't invited to the combine. I assume you were doing finance then. That wasn't on you. Here's a HEMBO stat. Thanks for the non-invite. I would not have any.

I don't even know what that is. Hembo is a stack. He's an AI human form. Nick Casario built a defense that allowed 270 yards per game in 2025, including a playhouse, few as by any team since the 2009 Jets. That's Hembo, baby. That should say Domeco Ryan's built a defense, so not Nick Aserio. Okay, so I like that.

Let's talk about it. You have a defensive head coach. Let's start and become a thing. Defensive McDonald up there in Seattle. Obviously, Minter just gets the Baltimore job. There was an offensive run. D'Amico defensive giant obviously becomes your head coach and flips the entire culture around. Because you have a defensive head coach, you have to have a good defense.

Because you have a defensive head coach, you're going to have a good defense. Like, how do you kind of view it? Or are you guys trying to build like, yeah, we would like to swarm. We would like our defense to be the best in the league every single year because that's investment. Then you would have to do that. Look, we're trying to build a good team. So we're fortunate. We got a lot of good players on defense.

We have good players on offense as well. So I think the league, look, the league is cyclical. I mean, there's different trends. We're going to try this and this is going to work. And we're going to try something different. I'd say in the end, every team's got to hire the individual. And it's a leadership position in the end. So handling the team, handling the players, you're involved in all facets of it.

Obviously, D'Amico has an expertise in defense. But I think he showed a lot of humility this year. He passed the play calling off to Matt Burke. And Matt did a great job, you know, so he could take more of a big picture approach. I mean, the head coach ultimately is responsible for everything that a team does. So he has his hand and everything. So I mean, we're fortunate to have the head coach that we do. I've said this publicly.

I mean, there's no other coach that we'd want to have run an organization. There's no other coach that I want to work with. And, you know, glad that, you know, he and I are able to work together on a day-to-day basis. Honestly, you're not trained to coach either. Not yet. That's not happening. Okay. AJ has a question for you, Pichon.

I guess we're here at the combine and everything. We're talking about this. But what happens once this week ends until the draft? What do you guys do? Like, obviously, bringing in the 30 visits, all the different players. Are you going and visiting schools, going to pro days like how does your schedule work out yeah AJ all that so we'll finish up we're actually going to start to bring players in our building probably next week and it's the follow up and to continue

the process so maybe we want to have more conversations we try to set up our visits so they have an opportunity to kind of touch everybody in the building that they're going to interact with what do you do when they come in are you doing i know each team does different things yeah i'll give you snap yeah no for sure we're not like going to top golf and doing all that kind of stuff so we're bringing in our building say hey here's what a day would look like for a houston when you walk in a building okay there's obviously a coaching element You're going to meet with sports performance. You're going to spend time with a nutritionist.

Hey, here's some things. So we can get a comprehensive view of, okay, what are the players need? How can we support them? They get an understanding of what our program is about. And here's the expectation of what it means to be a Texan on a day-to-day basis. So we try to use those visits to our advantage and try to get as much information. Honestly, it works both ways. Just because the guys in the building might say, you know what, okay, in the end, it kind of answers some questions.

We're going to move on. We're going to go a different direction. So we're just trying to arrive at an end point where we have a comprehensive picture of the player and what we think we're going to get when he comes in the building. So then when we draft them, like we have an understanding. But the reality is when they get in our building, they're back to ground zero and they're starting from scratch. So it'll be visits, it'll be workouts. It might be some individual workouts that take place.

I'd say from the scouting side, obviously we're here, draft-centric, combine-centric, but free agency starts in, you know, a week or two, whatever it is. So what kind of transition go through that process, see if there's some players that we can add in that area? to help our team. So it's a combination of things, really, all the way up until the draft, and then once a draft is over, and then, you know, we can take a step back. Yeah, and you just mentioned free agency there. How much will free agency affect your, you know, draft day kind of moves?

I mean, looking back on it, you can make the argument to trade for Will Anderson, moving back up to three is one of the greatest draft day trade. So much fun for us, too, by the way. If you want to do that again, we got a show. Yeah, but doing that, you know, you kind of. I'm here for you guys. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, that helped. But everyone thought, you know, you guys were trading that too. All of a sudden, a bunch of trade offers get rescinded once you take Ced. Jay then who wants to make a trade with the, you know, number three pick with the Cardinals? You guys do. So kind of opened that door back up for you. And then you got Will Anderson. It's genius.

But how many of those moves kind of depend on today, depend on these next couple days, free agency? Like, do you know today or after the weekend's over, hey, there are a couple guys that might be available that we should maybe move up for, move down for? like when does that kind of need? Unless they come to your building, take a poop and don't flush. Yeah, true. Or maybe clog a toilet. And don't say anything. At your house, perhaps.

That'd be the worst. Honestly. That breast. Honestly, we have a pretty good idea of if we don't move, right? We're picking 28th right now. That could change knowing our track record. Like we're moving around the board. Like we create flexibility and optionality for ourselves.

Pretty good idea. All right. Maybe who are some of the players that are going to be in that area? Free agency is kind of its own entity. So that's a snapshot. Okay. Here's where we are right now. Who can we add?

There's a cost associated with it. We kind of, the way we do it, all right, what's a player's role? Like, what are they going to do for us? All right, and what's a value associated with that role? And we try to make sure that matches up. There's a little bit of a mismatch. We might say, you know what? All right, we're going to move away from that and then focus on some other areas.

So we try to take it case by case. So we'll deal with for agency. And then once we get through for agency, take another snapshot of the team. And then once we get to the draft, honestly, we're just picking the best players that we feel are going to help us over the course of our, you know, our program. How close do you also monitor? monitoring teams that are coming out talking about like cap casualties because you've been a guy that a player will get released Joe Mix and Christian Kirk and then instead of being released two hours later they're actually getting traded to the Texans we're cognizant you guys did that right didn't that's one of your moves Christian Kirk last year a year before that Joe there's offensive line too from Vegas or though with the Arizona I forget that's a move though yeah we've done that a couple times I mean there's some players look they're going to get released so you have players who you know we're going to be for agents right they're already on the board and that kind of the cap casualty group all right they could be available they might might not be available.

You're talking to teams and then figuring out, like, what's the situation? Typically, those guys are, like, there's a cost associated with it. So can you fit the salary? Okay, if you can fit it, great. If you can't, all right, then you might have to wait and go somewhere else. So we just try to take advantage of every opportunity that makes sense for us. And if we can add a player, great. If we can't, then we'll just move on.

And I think one thing about us, we're not beholden to just one particular way and one particular player. So the more players we know, we understand the league, then it gives us an opportunity. to capitalize when it makes sense. That's because you're day trade. Yeah, exactly. That's why draft night, we're at 28. We'll see.

It might be a little bit of value moving in this entire avenue. I love that about it. We traded out of the first round last year, so we moved back. Let's not do that again. We need you in. We need more in. And also, hey, I don't know if you know this. What is your pick this year?

28. We'll take it off your hands. You get Anthony Richardson. Him and CJ are. We got a good quarterback, so. And we got Dougie. too good guy. Dougie, Dougie, by the way, might be.

We started putting him on the trade block just strictly because we think people will be very, very interested. It was reported today that Colts have given Anthony Richardson the permission to go ahead and seek a trade. Nice refresh for him and be cool. I think he's incredibly talented. We'll see how that goes. If you want to give us 28, you can certainly do that.

Last question for you here, Pa, Pa, Zon. Yeah, Nick, two seasons ago, you weren't happy with your offensive line. So last off season, you made a lot of moves. It was a lot better this year. Congratulations on that. Appreciate that. But going towards this. draft with the offensive line. It feels like there's a lot of really, really good right

tackles coming out and then potentially guys that could kick inside. When you are going through this process, can you look at a right tackle and envision him actually playing left or kicking inside? And how much do you talk to them about that before you would make a move like that? It's an awesome question. Thank you. I'd say it's twofold. Some guys that have played right tackle have played on the other side as well. And if they're not the start and right tackle, let's just say your swing tackle your third tackle is going to have the ability. Well, can he go to the left or do you have to take your left tackle and make him right tackle? So we do have those conversations. And there's ways you can track it like what position they've played. How many snaps the right tackle?

How many, center? How many snaps are right guard? How many snaps a left guard? Because again, you don't want to just say, well, this guy's going to go inside. Not all tackles can move inside. I mean, some can do it. I mean, we were fortunate, you know, when I was in New England, you know, we took Mankins, you know, was a left tackle and he went inside. We took Tunney. He was a left tackle. He went inside. But like, not everybody can and do that. So you just got to try to figure out, like, what makes the most sense and try to create as much optionality and flexibility on the line as possible. I'm not pumped up for you strictly because elimination chambers this weekend or so much on the line.

Yeah, you haven't been able to pay attention, I assume. I was talking to Randy briefly about it, so I'm probably not up to speed with exactly what's going to go on. You're not involved, are you? They're trying to get you involved. You never know. What are you reading? What are you reading? What are you? What have you heard? Listen to Sam Roberts' podcast probably on the bell talk. Yeah, what are you heard? That's a podcast. So when you were talking to Randy, you were saying, Randy, what's going? Is that what you were doing?

He's a giant. He is in great shape. He's a draft him at edge. Tremendous shape. He could do some damage. He's got long arms. I mean, shoot, the RKO, they probably wouldn't even penalize it during the game. They don't penalize anything else.

Or they do, I mean, don't give me. You guys. Okay. Hold on. AI should help. AI should help with the referees. That's something they've talked about, a competition committee. I do like that the NFL is telling the refs union.

Oh. You guys want to mess around? around again? I don't know if you've heard. AI can do all this. And it's like, you know those high school refs we had years back that got you guys a bunch of leverage? Yeah, never doing that again. Now we actually have people that don't

have feelings and don't have anything and see everything. So good luck in this renegotiation. That's a big deal for our league. This is a huge deal for our league. And I don't think a lot of people are talking about it. Ex-players, ex-coaches who have been fired because of bad calls. Obviously people that are in front office to talk about it. This is one of the

biggest things that's happening this offseason. And I don't think anybody's really talking about it enough. I genuinely do it. Look, they have a hard job. Yes, yes, yes. They have a difficult job. And I think everybody's just looking for some level of consistency. That's the most important thing.

AI. Trying to get the calls right and so that we can make sure that everything is officiated, you know, on an equal playing field. And then what do you guys? Do you guys say, hey, once the whistle blows, then you hit them? That's what you guys said at Houston. We play clean. Yeah, you guys.

I like how you guys. You guys play violent. Violent football. Yeah, we love, we love that. Like, but if you get a tight. ref or a tight crew like we saw this in college football the big 12 cool vanderveld uh was the refs they the big 12 crew was like we're letting them play like hey this is a college football playoffs we're gonna let them play yeah big 10 crew vastly different they were like calling a lot of stuff so for that Miami team

who were hard hitters for indiana even who were like a little bit hard hitters it was like who the ref was a big deal and i think it goes back to what you're talking about we just want to know what we're signing up right that is kind of what you all want to know equal playing field just be consistent and it's a subject sometimes some things are subjective so let's just try to make sure we're just trying to get it right and everybody let the boys play they need to get van derveld up there in the NFL that entire crew he's on he is the most confident too that I've seen in a long time like just very comfortable with the moment has yeah but he also have an ISO shot in front of 25 million people where you're speaking for the game like you are representing football right now let's go ahead and

make sure we got it so hopefully they get that figured out all right hey uh before you get out of here, Nick, to head back to Houston, I use? Yeah, eventually, yeah, sure. What do you got? Travels back there. Can you throw a football or only ride bikes? I can try to throw one. Sure, yeah, whatever you need. Will you be able to throw football into that hole that's over my left shoulder right now?

You think for $100,000 of charity? Sure, I can try. Let's go. Let's do that, Nick. Let's do that. And then all of a sudden, you're going to get R-K-O'd, so keep your head on a swim. Oh, please. That'd be awesome. He's a huge thing.

Hey, come up here, brother. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the Combine. The Combine Charity Challenge. That's the name of it. We thought of it 10 minutes before the show yesterday, but it turned out to be pretty awesome. Shout to Blue, the best mascot in the game.

You know that in the Indianapolis. This is one of his gimmicks. Toro would have an argument about against your guy. Toro. Tos are worst, dude. Turo, cream pot of people. I like Toro. Is your new place named Toro Town? Did I see that?

Toro Diss or whatever they call it. Yeah, whatever. You got a new practice facility, right? Yeah, it looks like it. Hopefully, it'll be a few years before we get in there. But, I mean, it's going to be. It looks like a pretty massive space, so yeah. I've seen the renderings.

It looks like it's going to be good. We don't know when it's happening, but we hope that it certainly will. And Nick, all you have to do is put this football. There's Adam Schaefter right there and Field Yates. Wow. Oh, my God, the pressure is on. Nick, first question. How old are you?

I'm 50. What? Congrats. Congratulations. You Italians really do it. All right. So all you got to do is spin that football into that hole right there. Adam Schaefter will be looking on.

Field Yates with brand new hair will be looking on. 100,000. Holy hell. Lou! What's going on? All great to see you. Lou and Rumo is here. Nice. Great coach. Awesome coach. Yeah, you Italians have to say that about each other.

Hey, Grazie, Paizan. Okay, all right, for $100,000 to a charity of your choosing. All you do is put that football on that hole right there. Go ahead, Nick. Let's see if you got it, Paizan. Good for him. Oh, I like that you won for it, though. I like that you didn't hold back. You didn't guide it. You really went for it. Let's act like this is something that could be. No, this is it. Nick, make this shot.

Yes, you have three shots, though. Yes, you do have three shots. For 100 grand. Wow. Out of baby. Wow. That was a good throw. We're going to have to make this harder for tomorrow, certainly. But Nick, we appreciate the hell out of you. Please tell us where to donate that.

And good luck this season in every game except for two. You guys are the best. Always golf coming on with you guys. So a lot of respect for you. Is Randy Orton going to win the elimination chamber or no? I hope he does. Yes. OK.

Pick is in. Thank you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Casario. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're the best. Bye, boys. Safe travels.

Adam Schaefter looks incredible by the way. Yeah, he does. So does field. Good to see you, Shafti. You look like you're in great shape. You too, field. Ladies and gentlemen, speaking of great shape, joining us now is a 14-time world champion.

At one point in his life, he was 24 years old, and he was tasked with being the world champion, the WWE. Going into the elimination chamber this weekend, it looks like he's in the best shape I've ever seen him. Holy shit. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the most dangerous letters in all the sport are Taya Randy or yeah

how are you how are you Randy how is he ready gigantic though you got you you know hey I wish we were one of those European crowds and just saying this thing oh man that's it's great in it how is that for you did you expect that when you went over that I think was a couple years ago France maybe really turned it up we were in Leon France it was I think was close to two years years ago, and that's where it started. I've had that entrance song, Pat, for, I mean, since 2008 or nine.

I mean, that's forever. Nobody ever sang it. And God bless the guys that sing the song. It wasn't my favorite entrance music in the world. You need some that punks you up. Now, we'll talk about the chamber in a second. Trick Williams, his entrance music, I can't help. And now I can't dance.

I have no business dancing. No, no. We've seen you dance. If you couldn't guess, no, you haven't. But when his shit plays, I can't help myself. My blood starts pumping. My music never really did it for me. So when I was coming back from my fusion that I had a few years ago,

I was talking to Neil Lowry, thinking about changing the music. Shout out, Neil. Yeah, shout out, Neil. Neil, what's up? And, you know, we were thinking about new music. And then I came back and was like, man, I've had it forever. The fans like it. And then all of a sudden, we're in Leon.

And they start singing it. The universe does it. And then the next week, they start singing it. And then we come back, cross the pond, back to the States. They start singing it. And I'm like, okay, this is my music. You still hearing voices in your head at this stage? How many years into this thing are you now?

I think we saw 2000 is when you did. Yeah, 2000 since WW. Yeah, I started, well, with Rip Rogers back in OVW. Greatest class in history. Yeah, May of 2000 is when I took my first bump down in OVW. And I was down there for about a year and a half. And then a few years later, I was in evolution. And I think it was in 2003.

I was in my first elimination chamber match. So that was 23 years ago. I stepped foot in the chamber for the very first time. You talk about your fusion. I remember that being in a terrible time. There's been other injuries. Obviously, you're a professional wrestler. Sure.

Yeah. Your dad in the business, you know the business. That comes with the business. Especially, you know, whenever you're working as often as you were working. Now, your style is generate. I mean, you could be whenever. And I think you know that. You take a lot of pride in that.

And wrestlers always say how Randy works is how you should want to work. Rip Rogers says that. But still, it's going to happen when to. You look incredible right now. Thank you. You feel that way? You feel incredible? Why is that? I do. You know what? I just, I had injuries early on. I blew both my shoulders out before I was 25. I had major surgeries. And I had to kind of go back to ground zero and realize if I want to do this for any length of time, have any longevity. And I love this business. So that's all I want to do, right? I got to figure out how that I can get longevity out of the sport, out of the entertainment business. And that's what I've done. So I kind of honed my craft to where if you watch and I hate to have anyone now look back at all my matches, but I haven't picked a motherfucker up in 20 years. You don't have to. No, and I don't.

And, you know, it's not, you know, people that are looking to do the fancy moves. It's not the move. It's me that's doing the move that makes it fancy, baby. Yeah, listen, it's, it's, it's, I've had that same finish. I mean, for almost my whole career. That's finishing the biz. Yeah, thanks, man. Thanks.

Ever. Out of nowhere. Whenever that started becoming out of nowhere and then it goes viral and then, And it trends and you buy in with your family. It's like, it is. Everyone in the world was doing it. All generations. And then as soon as we see your ass pop up in the back of a frame,

and yeah, here it comes. It's incredible, brother. When I first met Logan Paul, you know, he was like, man, you know, I was doing the vines and I was doing the Arcaos. I know what the, I said, I didn't know who you were, but I knew what the RKO was and I was like, thanks, but, but that's just an example of like it superseded like everything that I was as a brand, it was like the RKO, it was huge.

And, you know, shout out the Diamond Dauce page, the Diamond Cutter. You know, of course, there was the Ace Crusher. Oh, so Ace gets mad of you, I assume that you don't give him a shout out. Ever, DDP gets a shout out. It sounds like you were just checking him off. You know, you got to shout him out. I think that there's a little, there's a story that goes way back where DDP did an interview where he said that I had given him a call and asked him if I could use.

used the diamond cutter as a finish. And now this was back like when I was in my early 20s and I was having, you know, it was a little rough around the edges and I might not have remembered that conversation. So I called him out and I said, bullshit. That's a lie. I never called him. Sorry. Sorry, Paige.

I totally did. That happened. That happened. I thought I might have been dreaming it. But no, it was. I like the fact that back then who you were, they're like, hey, you did the right thing. You called DDP. You were like, no, I didn't do that.

I don't want to hear that. I do the right thing. That is kind of like old school business stuff. And I don't want to get into that entirety because, you know, there's so many little things and how great you are for the business is a phenomenal thing. And there's a lot of different eras, and you've been through a lot of them. And you have showed up for the fans. So I would like to say thank you for that.

Now, Tom Brady hasn't seen any of them. Tom Brady hasn't seen a single one. Now, he's in great shape, too. He's got the avocado ice cream. He's back on. He's living his life. He's doing his thing. Whenever, you know, this has always been the old.

school how people talk about wrestling, you know? And him dropping the cute line I know is just like the greatest word that could enter your ears right there. When you think about this guy's no idea what he's talking about. How does this kind of all make you feel now that you're in the middle of it with the greatest of all time? Well, the thing with the cute line, like I'm so I'm just having fun at this stage of my, in this stage of my career, man, I am just, especially after the injuries and the spinal

fusion. I mean, there's no one on the roster that I'm aware of anyway that's had a lower lumbar fusion, let alone a double fusion. So the fact that I'm doing anyway, like every second I'm in that ring, I am soaking it up. And I've been doing this longer than damn near anybody. Gosh, I just, I feel so grateful to be around. So hearing him call it cute, like I just, I'm having fun. 10, 15, 20 years ago, I would have been hot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Choice words to say for Tom Brady. But the RKO line, it's funny because I, you know, I'll look at the comments sometimes just to get, you know, just, you know, it tickles me. But people get so freaking upset. And it's like, we're just having fun. But Tom, if you want to take an RKO, dude, call Pat. Call Pat. Pat'll call me.

I was certainly loved to do that for all parties involved, including the NFL fans. And I think some Patriots fans. You know, wouldn't mind seeing that at this exact moment. AJ has a question for you, Randy. You mentioned longevity. I guess I don't think there's any secret, any sport or business. Like, hey, the people.

but show up or consistent work hard seem to be the ones that rise to the top and stay there. But, like, consistency, is that what, like, when you watch, how do you stay relevant for so many years? Because we see a lot of guys come up. I mean, I don't want to mention anyone, but there's different fans I've been with over the past where, hey, this guy's, he's on his way to the top, and then all of a sudden, you never hear from him again. Just that's what wrestling is. How have you been able to be you forever? Man, I think I've just been me. There's a lot of, you know, like, I think like any.

Also, hold on, six, five. Yeah. wildly attractive. Because 270 pounds, cool tattoos, yeah, dad in a bit, yeah, knows what he's doing. Best worker probably in the history of the company. Stop it, stop it. My grandfather and my uncle wrestled too, as a matter of fact.

Oh, so I need to add that in. Yeah, yeah. It's not just roving. Rest in peace, grandpa. Man, as far as that goes, I take care of my body. And the thing is, early on in my career, I think I got lucky because I was horrible to my body. Like I was doing all sorts of shit I should have been doing.

should have been doing. And I kind of had a reality check. And I turned things around. And I just, like, you know, the in-ring work that we talked about earlier, like I make sure that everything I'm doing, there's a reason that I'm doing it. I'm not just throwing myself around. I see young guys come up and, you know, they don't hurt. They're able to. Javon Evans. Unbelievable. Perfect example. This weekend, Elimination Chamber, if you haven't seen this dude, watch them. Yeah, he is incredible. But I've had a couple talks with him because, like, he's doing so many things that nobody else can do. and he just, he doesn't need to do them all every night. It's like Jeff Hardy. Yeah, Jeff Hardy, perfect example. But another guy, I mean, he's still wrestling. He's one durable son of a bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the heaviest man I've ever, I said I didn't pick anybody up. Earlier in my career, picking up Jeff Hardy, that was, that was a chore. He is a, he is a, and shout out Chris Jericho. He's a heavy motherfucker, too. That's why they're so devastating. You know, that Lion's song was so hard. because he's heavy in there, you know? Oh, my God.

And the swanthomb from Marty, you know, got a lot of heavy. I'm trying to think. I think that the heaviest, probably a five-star frog splash from RVD would probably be the most stoutest thing I've ever taken. Oh, yeah, RVD. Amazing, amazing talent.

But man, he hit you. You know what, he was like as solid as this freaking table right here. I heard Ray Mysterio likes to lay it in a little bit too. Raymond, I love Ray Mysterio. I don't see nothing bad about Ray. No, no, no, no, no, no, I would never. Ray Mysterio gave me a sharp tequila after my first match. I was going to the bathroom and I hear, Mr. McAvey outside.

I know that voice, but it wasn't tequila. Oh, my God. Oh, God, Ray. He's the greatest. I want to raise mass on my desk because of how much respect. I have for now. Appreciate you for you for you. Yeah, Ray.

Dude, goat. Greatest fall time. And his kid, just a sack of shit. Yeah, a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit, but let's be serious. Unbelievable. On his way. Amazing.

When I first served. When I first saw that guy five, six years ago, I thought, oh, man, poor kid. Look at him now. Yeah, he's. Dude, he's got the world by the ball. Yeah, just such a scumbag. But boy, he's got to figure it out. He's really good at everything.

Yeah, no, he's smart. He's got a look. He went from not having a look, and I'm thinking, like, man, what's this kid going to do? And now all of a sudden, he's like got more heat than anybody. And they drop him in AAA, and then he got him in Raw. Oh, yeah. I mean, he is a wet worker, worker, worker. Connor has a question for you.

Scumbag, scumbag, scumbag, scumbag. But a marvel to watch, especially with how the crowd reacts to him. I know you're a gamer. I saw an interview. You're big on Eldon Ring. Is that kind of your go-to hobby? Are you looking forward to some of the games, Crimson Desert, coming out there, some big ones coming?

Is that where you go to get away? I am a gamer. And the weirdest thing is like, so I'm trying to think back when my dad was around my age, and just to imagine him playing video games. Yeah. Got it. I feel kind of like a geek sitting here talking about it. No offense to all the gamers out there.

None taking. I love video games. Are you good at them? My poor wife. Oh, my God. I'm like, hey, honey, Brooklyn's in bed. I'm going to go down to the media room. It's like, see you in three hours.

But Eldon Ring, the one I'm playing right now, it's Wu Chang, Fallen Feathers. Amazing. Amazing. It's like watching, you know, Avatar or something. You just, you immerse yourself in it, you have fun, and you just kind of, it's, it's, it's, I don't watch a lot of sports. That's all right. But like movies, video games, that's like where I get my.

Your wife and you are cool. Yeah, yeah. Nobody talks about you guys as a couple, like whenever it comes to, like, celebrity stuff, because you guys stay out of it all so much. You two are awesome together. Feels like you're a perfect match. We want nothing to do with all that shit. My wife is absolutely amazing, man. She really is.

And I've got five amazing kids. I feel I got to pinch myself every morning when I wake up. I am like the luckiest guy in the world. And I've had so many chances at life. I've effed up a bunch, but I got a bunch of good people around me, man, at work. And just throughout my career, and that's another reason with the longevity, man. Like the right people were there to kind of pick me up, slap me around and say, don't do that again. And I was given.

I don't know if it was the talent or if it was, you know, they saw something in me. Maybe it was just potential at the time, but I was given those chances. And because of that, I'm still here. So I got to give credit to those guys and gals that gave me those second, third, fourth, fifth. Not just still here, still in it. Elimination chamber this weekend. Yes. You've been in a lot of them.

You talk about 23 years ago, you remember, or something like that. Yeah, yeah. What is the mindset here? What is the plan? What do we need to do here? Yeah. Because we would like to see you. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think if you're a betting man, definitely bet on me. Yes. I'm winning that thing. You know, I'm 40, I'm 46 in a couple months. And, you know, I can't do this forever. I've been doing it 26 years. If I could do it another decade, I will. The work rate, the way that I wrestle, you know, maybe I could pull that out.

But I know that time's coming. So I don't know how many more chambers I got. I don't know how many more WrestleMania's I got. I think this will be my 21st WrestleMania coming up. You know, I just want to keep stacking them up, man. So like every week, I'm taking it kind of one week. Yeah, you look so fat on TV. I'm a bloated mess right there.

I think the first time I saw you, I was a fan here, I was a fan here in Indianapolis. Is that a Miss? Yeah, Miss is eating a few. How's that feel? It's got longevity too. Yeah, he hasn't wanted a long time. Four years.

He's another guy, man. He's been around forever. Kudos to him. He's a durable son of a bitch, too. Yes, he is. And I beat him in Mania, so that's good. Yep. But I wasn't the only one.

I mean... You've had a couple good showings, man. I seem to remember you out there with Stone Cold having some fun. Right. And that was probably just all called on the fly on the spot. I'm guessing he's like, throw a pat out there, right? I can't hear him either. So, you know, so we're out there.

Yeah, it is all getting called on the... Yeah, it is. And it is all out there. And I'm... Talk about learning from the best. Oh, my God. In AT&T Stadium, in Texas. Yes.

Steve Austin in there. Yes. And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, come up here. It's like, yeah, of course. This is what I'm doing. I'm trying to like, I'm trying to rely on what I've heard you guys or other guys talk about. Like, all I'm getting out. I'm just falling along right now.

That is all I'm doing here. I'm going in and I'm listening. And then he starts talking. I'm like, oh, yeah, sweet. I can't hear him. Yeah, yeah. Because he said, you take, I'll go, you see the video. I watched the video back where he points to both things.

I couldn't hear a word he was saying. And I was like, okay, I've done it before. Yep, we're doing beers. Yeah, right, right. Thank God you were a fan, or you are a fan, and you had watched, and you knew what the hell he was talking about. Yeah, and then whenever, you know, as you receive a stunner, like as a wrestling mark and as somebody that's watched the entire thing,

it's like, this is the greatest thing that could ever happen to me in my entire life. And also, I've been thinking of how I would take a stunner for 20, 30 years. Sure. You know what I mean? So it's like immediately like, oh, shit, this is the, we've been planning. We've been planning. The thing about you guys, obviously, you don't know what's going to happen. Right, right.

And how you strategize in work is how you're going to get a win. But all of that is happening, fully encompassed. You know, Broadway, live in front of people, but it's only one way. You know, like concerts, you know, there's comedians that are in the middle, but they're not doing physical things that are happening. You guys having people at all angles around you, watching your every single move, listening to everything, has such an amount of pressure, I think, to execute.

on everything. Whenever there's a mess-up, it's a huge deal. That's why mess-ups are such a big deal because it's unbelievable the amount of talent that you guys have. Honestly, it is unbelievable. I feel like you probably took a lot of pride in this next generation, like in helping to lend a hand and carry on the tradition of biz. A hundred percent. And you're right about, you know, there's 360 degrees. You're playing to everybody in the crowd, you know, a place like this. You've got tens and tens and tens of thousands of people you're playing to. Then you're playing to the people at home sitting on the couch, too. So there's all these different elements. But as far as the younger talent, you know, I get, you know, in my salty old age, I have gotten some fulfillment in helping out the younger guys.

You didn't want to, though, earlier. No, of course not. Well, I don't want anybody to take my spot, and then I kind of got to the point where I realized that, oh. That's not possible. They can't take my spouse. No. Yeah, I'm ready or not. Sometimes I got to remind myself that I.

Yeah. Well, 100%. I'm human, and I forget, but then like some, then I remember. It's like, oh, let me help these kids out. There's a few of them. Now you get the occasional kid that'll come up and like, hey, well, you watch my match, you watch it, you talk to him. He doesn't change anything or take any advice.

And you realize like, oh, okay, you piece of shit. You're doing what you think you should do. But then there's the guys that really care. And, you know, I mentioned like a Javon Evans or a Trick Williams. And there's so many other guys. You know, I could name so many guys. Can I explain something to you that you might not realize? Yes.

So I've learned this with Aaron Rogers. So Aaron Rogers has been in the league so long. All the guys that are in the league basically grew up as fans of Aaron Rogers. Sure. So, like, whenever they play against Aaron, you hear media talk about Aaron, they try to kill him, you hear all these people, but your players talk about it, and they're like, that's Aaron Rogers right there. That's what's happening with you, I think.

We all grew up watching you somehow, even though you're still in the business as good as you are. So these guys all grew up being like Randy Orton is the guy. So you giving them any time, I think they're very thankful for her. And I am pumped that you're doing that for the good of the dish business. I think you're doing it good for dish business. Tone has a question for you, Randy. Yeah, I do. And it's kind of around how long you've been in it in the new generation.

I lived in Southside Pittsburgh from 2006-2010. Mario's after a Monday night Raw, you and the guys had a room upstairs. You went there after Raw. That was when he called DDP. Maybe, maybe. Did you say 06? It was 0-6 to 0-10. I can't remember what year it was.

Okay, yeah, those are fun years. Yeah, exactly. But I'm saying, and we talk a lot about being here at the Combine and the new generation. Like, you guys went out after events, and that's how you built camaraderie, I assume. Does the new generation do that at all? Is that how do you like how how how is the locker room kind of changed over the years and like what do they do for camaraderie now? I think that a lot has changed.

So with social media and everybody having a recording device on them, so much has changed. You know, and I was just talking about my wife and my kids and I know they might be watching. I don't want to get into the exacts, but like we were always getting into something after the show. And I mean, I think last year I heard L.A. Knight wrestled 64 times. and that was the most anyone wrestled last year. Yeah. I mean, 64 times. I was averaging like 180 matches a year for 15 years.

In 2013, I think I had like 220-something. So, like, times have changed, but that's a lot of night out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nights out, you know, with the guys, the camaraderie was, you know, camaraderie glore. We had a lot of fun. A lot of camaraderie. Yeah.

And much. And God, be in so much trouble this day and age. I think the guys now are smarter, the more interested in getting up early and training the next day, you know. Your body's your temple. You know what I'm saying? Times have changed. We used to put a lot of things in our body. I hear it too.

Football is the same. Yeah, yeah. So I think just like with football, I'm sure. Yeah, I think a lot of that's the same. So I think they're getting together. They're hooking up. but they're doing on a safer, more respectable, smarter plan. Shame.

All right, Rip Roger. Yeah, big shame. It's football. We say that about football too. Yeah. Yeah, we're kind of bummed out that this generation doesn't get to experience the keg as much as they do the kale, you know, because it's like, you get a lot tighter here than I think on this side. But that's a modern world. Nobody wants to go out and get caught like anything ever.

Get a little booze and you say one thing wrong. Your career and your family's over forever. Oh, yeah. Forget about it. Yeah, it's over. So last question for me. I also trained with Rip Rogers. Indiana, legend, obviously down OVW.

hilarious, you know. But the classic old school wrestler, you know, just like the classic. They hate, I think, the modern era of wrestling. More specifically, the unreal thing on Netflix. Gosh. I hated it. I felt like I was an old wrestler whenever it first got introduced. I hated everything about it.

I'm like, I'm not doing any of this. So then I watch a couple episodes. I'm like, I can see how people who aren't wrestling fans might watch this and have more respect for what wrestling is as opposed to, you know, beforehand. So maybe it's exposing him more. Then I was asked to be a part of it. I told him, no. Then they kind of forced me into it. I told me you can't have a camera in here.

Joey, who we like, set up a camera up on the Thunderdome to get without my, I think I can kind of sue, but kind of without my permission in this entire thing. And then I'm lucky to be a part of that unreal. I'm happy that my daughter and my boys are going to be able to see that kind of documented. So it's kind of a double-sided thing here. How do you feel about it? It's hard. It depends on the time of day he asked me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I think like you at first, oh, this is terrible because like, I mean, there was a day and age where, you know, if you were working with a guy, I'm a bad guy, he's a good guy. We might be bros, but we're not going to ride together, even though we want to. We're not going to be seen in public together. Certainly not in the town we're wrestling. Now it's like, you know, not like that at all. K-Fabe is dead.

No! Yeah, well, you're just talking about putting a camera up on the fucking . Yeah, yeah, yeah, K-Fabe's dead, this is entertainment, we're all superstars, I understand it, and I also hate it, and I understand it, and I think it's necessary. I think bringing in a crossover, like you said,

your daughter gets to see it, and she'll understand it, and people that aren't fans might be fans and have more of a respect for what we do, and what, I mean, Listen, if you don't know what goes into it and now you watch Unreal and you realize like, oh my God. A lot of thought. There's a lot. And it's boom, boom, boom.

I mean, live TV almost every day of the week. It's insane when you think about the amount of content that's put out and how it's pretty much all live. So I think it's, it makes sense to me that it's a thing. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. I think they're going to force you to like it at some point. Yeah. No doubt. I've seen a few episodes

and I've seen myself in the background doing shit and I'm like You've never let it know? No, no, no, no. Because all the OGs would kill you. Yeah, I don't think they'd kill me I think they all get it too, you know, and even Rip, well, maybe not Rip. No, no. No, no. No way. No.

No way. No, no. But, you know, it's just... Like Heyman. Like Heyman. Like a different generation, man. Paul Heyman said the same thing about how, you know, it's that, we got adapt. And then I assume that.

it'll end up, they'll end up working that. I assume that'll end up being a work, like, I assume wrestling will do what wrestling does. Sure. Too unreal at some point. Right. But it was certainly a shock to the system. Yeah, yeah, big time.

Big time, especially for me. All right. See him, Punk's back. He's the guy. Yeah, punk's back. Punk's cool. Huge one in Chicago. Yeah, big one.

And you know. AJ back? Yeah. Well, Finn Ballard. Let's talk about Finn. Talk about, holy smokes. Smoothest guy out there, dude. I can't wait to watch him in Punk.

in Chicago, that's going to be a banger, dude. AJ and Becky, you're going to be huge? Is Finney a pizza? You ever seen Finney eat a piece of pizza? Sandwich? I have not seen Finney. Yeah, I didn't think so. No, no. And he's Irish, too. He should like... Oh, I see what you're saying, because he's shredded. Yeah. I think he eats whatever he wants. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That makes me hate him. He's one of the... Well, I fluctuate. I'll go up and down. Sometimes the diet suffers. The abs disappear, and I'm all of a sudden 300 pounds. You've seen me. Oh, yeah. They'll go down to 280 and, like, kind of, you know... There was a time you came back. forget what it was and you might have been 310 pounds and I'm like

Oh we were there when we were there? Look at this thing Because your quads are gigantic So then when anytime the upper body gets even bigger It's like is this Brock? I was too big bro too big Your knees were probably upset Oh yeah too bad you can't get a fusion And gain 60 pounds

No you can you just can't expect to do things You can but it's not smart Yeah Randy we appreciate you stopping by man Thank you Pat Safe travels up in Chicago Yeah I appreciate that We're pulling for you We would like you to win for the good of business.

Yeah. For real. Well, I'm going to win this thing. Go to WrestleMania, main event it, and get that 15th title. Boom. And then what? And then we're going to get, then you've got to give it up again, and then you've got to go. 16.

And that's why? Quiet. Why? Why? That's right. I don't think anyone's getting more than 17. Yeah, you know what I mean? If you know what I mean.

You're the man. I love you, John. I'm VW Classmate. You're the best. Hey, thanks guys. Ladies and gentlemen, 14 time a world champion, Randy. Yeah, Randy. Thanks, man.

Appreciate it. Good luck. Jesus, guy. This son of a bitch. I did. Hey, I just saw you paid $1,000 to upgrade your character. What a mark. See you, dude.

He's the man. He's always been very nice to be in the business because of Rip. Yeah, and also the RKO. Like, whether you're a WW guy or not, everybody knows that. You love the RKO and, in turn, love Randy. He's the best. He's huge.

Because you know why he also looks like a WW superstar, okay? That's how I want my WW superstars to look, act, and be like. Amen, brother. Yeah. Hey, don't be watching Unreal. He said it. Hey, that's why we don't. I wish you would have told us if he was going to win the Elimination Chamber then, if that's the case.

I thought it was all strategy. Speaking of strategy, Indiana has enacted a strategy that is awesome. Yeah. For the state of Indiana. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is going to be in the news a lot. especially if something comes through where Indiana joins New Jersey, Florida, and California as teams with two, or states with two NFL teams in them. Joining us now, the governor of the great state of Indiana, Mike Braun.

Damn, Mike! Sir, thank you for joining us, man. Hell yeah, very kind of you. How you doing? Very good. Nice to meet you. All right. This is for you, sir.

Okay. I like that. It's not much. Okay. Okay. That was the guess. We assumed it was. I was thinking, wait a minute, sir.

Okay, I like what you do in a joyful day. Mr. Governor, thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure. Congratulations on the state in which you govern hosting the Combine for the 39th straight year. Obviously, Indianapolis has built to host things. The partnership with the NFL has been spectacular. And I think our state and our city show up every single time. How do you feel about the Combine, the NNN?

partnership with our great state. Well, I know we've got to renew the deal, and we're going to definitely want that to get done. Been here a long time. When I ask them how long it's been since 87? Is that right? Yeah, 39 years this year. Then we agreed for two more years through 2028, so it would be 41, but we would like a 10-year deal. Yeah. You need to work on that.

But anything that lasts that long, you'd have to have a really good reason. Why would you change it? If it's not broken, they'll try to fix it. Okay, so let's talk about that. Chicago have been the homes of Chicago Bears for a long, long time. I think there's a vote happening right now in Illinois. Obviously in the NFL, this has happened throughout history where owners in an attempt to potentially get a new stadium

or get some public money will say like, hey, there's other options out there if that's how we want to go about doing this. The other option in this was the state of Indiana. And it felt like you very much were like, we are open for business, if that's the case, able to pass the Bears bill, Senate bill number 27, which gives them some tax breaks and some property stuff. How do you feel about that coming along?

and how real did you think the conversation was at the beginning of this, actually getting the bears to come to Indiana? So you've got to look at how long the bears were trying to talk to their own state and their city. That goes back like three years. So for two and a half years, they were just like we're not interested, I think assuming that it would just happen there. But to get something done, even though that lease goes through where they'll be playing there, you know, for several more years,

their clock was starting to run out to get it planned for a new season. stadium. So they came to us. We didn't try to lure them because they thought there was no interest. And they were being told bluntly, you know, you've got to build your own stadium. We're not putting any taxpayer dollars into it. So we never got ahead of our skis. I wanted to make sure it was an honest broker. We were talking. I suppose being used for leverage, which is certainly going to happen in business. And that can happen at any time along the way on a real estate deal. So therefore, before we went to, I guess, last week when they made that strong statement and our bill passed through the house, that was kind of a threshold point. So when that happened, it was far enough along to where we believe it's mostly due diligence to just get the eyes dotted, T's crossed a month and a half or two, and then you ink a final deal.

That doesn't mean in the meantime, something couldn't waylay it. But I think they are really now got a good look at what it's like doing business in a place like Indiana. And it's going to be a lot easier to run a business over the next 40 or 50 years than it would be there. Okay, so there's a vote in Illinois, I guess, to kind of counter what you guys are doing today. I assume you guys are watching this closely. At this point, it sounds like you're very confident that this deal is going to get done. And the things that you're offering for the Chicago Bears in Indiana would not be possible in Illinois. Sounds like what you are saying.

I'm confident that we've done everything you needed to do. to be in the place we're at, where they make that strong public statement, regardless of what they do in the legislature, there's still a lot of things that would have to happen. And due to the fact that they took so long to get to this point, I think they can really see, I mean, the Jets, the Giants, look at all the other places where you're playing just across the border.

Yeah, and Kansas City just moved to another state. I mean, these are things that happen, especially with stadiums. And we're running into the final 40s, seconds here live on ESPN. We'll continue digitally. We're talking to Governor Mike Brant. I mean, this guy, whenever he came in, I remember the

ads, I'm an outsider, I'm a businessman. And we are going to be open for business here. Taking over for Holcomb. Governor Holcomb has been here for a while. And I think this move is you stating that to the world, right? Isn't that kind of a move that you would like Indiana to be known for? Like, hey, we are open for business here in the state of Indiana. Open for business, reasonable regulations,

taxes, high wages, low cost of living. What more would you want? That's a good sell. We'll continue with the governor. Exactly. We will continue with the governor. We'll be back here on a feel good.

Golden Friday at the Combine tomorrow. Be a friend, tell the friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye. Okay, governor, we are still live. We're just not on ESPN. We're on YouTube, TikTok, and X, and things will obviously continue to get ESPN plus.

Sorry, I'll make sure I check all the boxes. There's still a lot of people out here watching. And obviously, this is a huge story for the NFL as we kind of piece together what the future could look like. So whenever, let's say Illinois, and you say if they get through legislature, there's a lot of other things that still have to happen, are you in the position where you feel like you're nimble enough where if Illinois does put together a proposition for Chicago, you will be able to counter again?

Like, is that a potential outcome in this entire thing? Like, how do you see this joust potentially going and what are you prepared for? So you've got to put it into context when there was no interest and all of a sudden you're very interested. And we've been able to do all of this basically in a couple months. to get it from agreement generally to an accommodating bill and a strong public statement. That's the speed of light in this business. And I think they've got a good feeling, too.

We're an honest broker. We're not going to, you know, and we wanted to make sure they were doing the same thing. So I don't know what could happen, especially when they say they're not going to put any money into it. We'll see. And I think fans have already done the calculation. going to have plenty of room to tailgate and do all the fun stuff in Indiana. It's the Indiana Bears? Yeah.

Chicago Bears. Sorry, I don't want to, I do not want to piss off the Chicago Bears fans even more. And I won't let you do that. It's going to be the Chicago Bears in Indiana. Okay, good. It's only, what, 20 minutes away from Soldier Field? From Soldier Field. No difference.

So it's just like, what does the business of the Bears want to do? And by the way, good for the Bears business is good for the team. It's good for the NFL. So we appreciate you guys stepping up and doing that, especially with what we've realized with doing business here in the state of Indiana. AJ has a question for you, Mr. Governor. Yeah, Governor, you said, like, high wages, you know, low cost of living, all of these things that seems like common sense.

That's what everybody wants, right? Like, why is it so difficult to actually execute that in most states? Well, I think you'd have to listen to J.B. Pritzker, the mayor of Chicago, how much common sense is coming forth? Not much. I mean, they're talking about in a state like Illinois, they generally grow government, not the real world, the private side of life. and most of us have to make our living in the real world,

not in a world that's dominated by government. Britsker, governor of Illinois. Funny you called him the mayor. I like what you're doing. I like how this old thing's going, Mr. Governor. Well, that wasn't on purpose. No, no, no, of course not. Of course not.

Connor has a question for you, Mr. Governor. Mr. Governor, it's an honor. First of all, this would be sick. As someone who lives in Indiana, I would love to have the Chicago Bears here, but called them the Indiana Bears, simultaneous, you know, piss off Colts fans. and Bears fans.

But as far as timeline goes, as someone who might not be locked in, obviously the Bears wouldn't be playing in Indiana next year. You know, like when do you see them, you know, being able to be up there? When do you see those type of things, breaking ground, you know?

And also, specifically, what city is it in? Because I've heard Gary, I've heard a couple different other places. Yeah, Hammonds. Like, is Hammond the one? Hammond Air Wolf Lake. Okay. It's got a lot of room up there.

And I think when it comes, to that whole idea of how you're going to acclimate. I mean, you've already done the timing. It's going to be easier to probably get down there for most of the current bear fans than it would be fighting your way up through traffic to get to Arlington Heights. And I think the fact that it's happened in so many other places, that will be the Bears Nation still going to be there. You're going to add a lot more folks from the region that go to the ballgame.

When is this going to happen? It's going to happen. the stadium will be built as soon as we're starting on all the stuff you do preliminarily on real estate but they'll be in soldiers field the lease goes I think through 32 or three okay so they'd have a point where if they get it built they can move into it and then work something else on the balance of the lease so it's mostly done on the lease and I would imagine they'll get started on the construction sometime soon after the yeah well next week we start building it's Seriously.

Quicker it's up, the quicker they're in there. We can negotiate a buyout or can you with Illinois? I think I heard maybe 29 would be a goal of when you'd actually build the stadium. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, I do, Mr. Governor, I live here. I pay the taxes here to the state. What would the bears moving to Northwest Indiana do for the residents of Northwest Indiana and just us Indiana taxpayers as a whole?

So look at this. Uh-huh. Imagine this up there. and for Indy, this is kind of the heartbeat of the city, and look at what it's done to make us a sports state, NCAA headquartered here. You know, all the events we have. We've got great sports facilities. So imagine that in the region.

Most people in Indiana don't know that there's as much population in the region, Lake Porter County as you nearly have here in Marion County. So, and it's a place. I did not know that. Yeah. No. It's under a million, but it's the next largest place in Indiana. And when you look at the synergy from it, Gary was once our second largest city, bigger than Fort Wayne at one point.

And steel whooshed out of the area, out of the country. Look what happened to the economy. So this is how you rebuild. They've got a convention center. They've got a casino. FedEx put a hub in there. They got the Gary Airport, which is underutilized. Do we still have a casino up in there?

Yeah. Is still a casino up there? Yeah, that's the biggest casino in the state. Is it a winner? Am I walking in and walking out of there a winner or no? Depends on your talent vetting. Okay, Mr. Governor, so we're moving the Bears to Indiana. Congrats to the Bears, by way.

It sounds like you guys got a really good deal here. Way better for them. Way better for the league, I think, because it's all going to mean. Now, the Chicago people are going to have to swallow. That's going to be a hard pill to swallow. But once again, governments, public money, all this stuff cuts you involved. It can get a little bit messy. happened before there is precedent. We're excited for you. Now, do you think this is a little bit of a

get-back by Indiana for all the money that I've spent in Illinois and in Michigan? On what? You know what I'm talking. Gov, I think we should have that conversation next for the good of Indiana. Do you not think? I think you ought to talk to the legislators about that. Okay, I will. You go with me. You go with me. I may. That's good for business. The moneymaker. That is a moneymaker, and it's also, it's all around our state. Yeah. So I'm taking...

Even Kentucky. Exactly. Medical. But I got a car. That would be fine. We'll meet you halfway. But what we're saying is like I think you in having the business mindset have been good for Indiana.

I mean, from where we were, COVID, here in Indianapolis, COVID city gets shut down. It gets bad. I mean, Indiana. The rebuild, the comeback. And then also trying to do it for the state. We as Hoosiers would like to say thank you for your commitment to bringing business into bringing other outsiders into Indiana,

thank you for representing. And if we can just get that one little thing kind of past, this would be a dream place for everybody to live, I believe. Well, I'll take that under advisement, and I'll tell you this, when you look at how many individuals run a business, sign the front side of a paycheck, and I've got the willingness to get into the business I've been doing

as a senator and a governor, not many. In the Senate, there were maybe three or four that had run a business at a certain scale that would even know what the heck to do to get that place in order. And governors, you'd think there'd be more because it's an executive role. Most of them come from the farm system of politics.

And that's what I was running against. And yes, it's a big advantage doing something in the real world before you wanted to run a state or be one of a hundred on the board of directors of the biggest business in the world. Yeah, well, we appreciate what you're doing, man. Where did you cut your teeth?

What was the business world you were in? It was a little company that was building truck bodies that I went into six months before the farm crisis in the early 80s. That's when a mortgage was a bargain at 10%. And within six months, to ring the inflation out from the Jimmy Carter days, they had to take them to 18%. That was a wobbly business circling the drain. I created two new businesses at a fancy MBA, became a used truck dealer. Love that. And it did a milk run on truck accessories when only farmers drove trucks.

It was jumping in the stream at the right time, and three of our four kids run it. And it was in a trailer as my office for 17 years. True. Love that. And now it's got 90 locations in 40 states and several in Canada. Congratulations. That's good Indiana business, baby. There you go.

That's a good Indiana business from the trailer park to the world. You got it. I love everything about it. Mr. Governor, great work on this Bears deal. and thank you for being willing to be you said speed of light, that's real. Having something that you think would be good for the state, executing for the good of the state,

and hopefully signing the deal to make it all happen. We're going to do everything we can to get it done. We appreciate you, appreciating ball too. We know you love sports. I do. We love the fact that you love sports. More people in the politics world that love sports, we think the better because that's what we know.

So we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Well, let's do it again. And we'll come back on when we talk about the deal being inked, ideally. Which deal? Bears deal. and then we'll talk about sports. No, no, not sports.

I want to talk about... Sports medicine. Sports medicine. Sports pain management. Erbs. Herbs. Irbs. Mr. Governor, you've done a fantastic job on this whole thing.

Congratulations and we appreciate you. Can you throw a football or no? I was a split and back in high school. So I can catch them. You can catch? Can you throw or no? Not enough to where I'd want to do it on national TV. Hold on now.

We're on the internet. We're not on national TV anymore. Remember, hold on now. Do you think you could get this football? from here to there, to that hole right there, Mr. Governor? I don't think I could. Okay. Hey, I like that.

I like that. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be back on the other side. Dan Morgan of the Carolina Panthers will be joining us. Governor Braun, seemingly, with what you just told us, bears are coming to Indiana.

Yeah, it looks good chance. We're going to do our best, and it's looking decent. Appreciate you. You bet. Congrats on Indiana being awesome. We'll be back on the other side. This is the Pat MacGiff Show live from the NFL. Combined, which has been here in Indianapolis

for 39 straight years. We appreciate you all so much. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Take five. Bye, five. It's a wonderful time. I mean, we just had a governor on who is seemingly

taking a victory lap about getting the bears over here to Indiana, very confident. Obviously, nothing's final until it's final. But it feels like he is very aggressive and very pumped about the opportunity of the Chicago Bears moving their home into the state of Indiana. Thank you for him for making that happen for our state. Also, can't wait see what he dies with cannabis.

I felt like that was pretty good. I feel like I did good there. I think you did, yeah. You put in like the groundwork. I did go out. Found some names, you know, to maybe check him with. Yeah, learned afterwards who I need to potentially. We can go lobby.

We can go lobby. We know who to go lobby too. Well, that's what I think I was trying to do there. In my head, I'd be a great lobby. Am I lobbying right now? It feels like I'm kind of lobbying. Don't want to piss anybody off. Don't want to get into that world too much.

Would like to be a lot. be able to, you know, do everything that I could do in literally every other state, but this one would be cool. One half of the hammer, Dan, Cowboys AP Tony's here. One half of the talks of table at Boston Conner is here. College Football National Champion, Super Bowl champion, Rotter Cup winner, AJ Hawk is here looking fantastic, wearing a shirt. He bought at the Love's truck stop on the way from his home to here today. He is obviously a legend. Joining us now is a legend, a man who played linebacker at the U, a man who is now the general manager of the Carolina Panthers. They were once ass.

Now they're good, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Morgan. Yeah, Dano! Adda baby, Donald. What's up? Has to shape the linebacker first. You know, I get it. Now the bugles. I can do it.

I do it. I was waiting. I was waiting. I was going to wait for you. I was going to wait for you. You did the right thing there. You did the right thing there, I think. I think you handled that well.

Yeah. It's the right move for the lads, for the team, for the boys, for the building. Sure, guys. Let's talk about the building. Your building, life has to be good for you. No, obviously, didn't win the Super Bowl, okay? Sucks.

You guys didn't win a Super Bowl. We hope that you would win the Super Bowl last year. Obviously, you did not. But from where you sat when you got the job to where you're at now, feels like things are coming together is, I don't want to say like expected timeline. But where you're at right now with the vision you had whenever you got there, how do you feel about it? Yeah, we feel good.

We feel really good about it. You know, I think we're making steps each year that, you know, that I've took over. We're building a foundation. We're bringing the right type of guys in, guys that love football, guys that are passionate about football. So we've got to keep bringing those type of guys in

and just keep the culture of winning going. How'd that feel that stadium playoff game? Oh, it was sweet. Dude, I played down there for the Monarchy. No. Was it? No, Monarchy Car Carver Bowl was in Jacksonville? No.

That probably wasn't real jacked out, though. the stadium at that time. Excuse me, the West Virginia Mountain Air fans travel. I don't remember. If I mean, it was in Moniquee, no, the Gator Bowl was in Jacksonville. Monarchy Car Carlinville was in Charlotte. So I've played there a few times. I don't think I remembered the stadium being as daunting as.

It felt like it was going straight up. There was a shot of Bryce coming out for the huddle, and it was like a low shot. And it just looked like a gladiator-like vibe. And I don't want to go back too far. And we talked to owner Teper about this and Bryce about this. But not that long ago, there was not a lot of excitement about the Carolina Panthers.

from within a city. Whenever you see that type of reaction, whenever you see that type of game, that kind of vindicates everything you're building, makes you feel like stronger to keep built? Like how does that kind of motivate you and how do you kind of feel about what has happened? I mean, I think it makes everybody feel like

we're on the right track, you know, when you see the fans out there excited, that's what you want. You want the city to be out there excited about things and knowing that their teams putting in the work and, you know, progressing year after year. So yeah, we want to get it like that. We want it to be consistent like that.

That's the thing. We don't want to just be like a flash in the pan in the playoffs and then not in the playoffs. So we want to consistently be in the playoffs. Tell me about Bryce Young. He's taller than I thought. Yeah. He came on the show.

He came on the show. And I was looking for him to walk out from the back. The backpack. The backpack, the big back. He was taller than I thought he was going to be. I think that potentially got blown way out of proportion. But I think he would even admit that, you know, learning the game, figuring out the game, getting a chance to do it,

took him in his own path. Where do you see him at now? What are you proud of Bryce Young, maybe, throughout this entire thing at this stage, and what do you see for him in the future? I'm proud of Bryce in general to go through the adversity that he went through and getting benched. You know, I remember him sitting in my office

and talking to him about like, hey, like you're eventually gonna be back out there, you know, just take this in stride, you know, try to go out there, just keep working hard. And, you know, he went out there. He worked hard, he put the work in. And I'm just so proud of it. him for doing that. And then

Andy Dalton gets in a car accident. He hurts his thumb and then insert Bryce back in the lineup. And he took off. Let's talk about Andy. We talk a little bit about Andy. Shout to Bryce, by the way. Bryce, your story is a good one for people to see. Bryce is my guy

though. Yeah, we talk all the time. He seems like a cool character. He is. Yeah, he seems like a very cool cat. He had a pretty good. Oh, good. Nice. He's a baller. He's an athlete. He's really good. You know who else is? Who's that?

The Ginger, the Red Rocket. Yeah, the Red Rocket. Yeah, he definitely is. The Red Rocket. Okay. So now News is coming out that he's a trade conversation for a lot of teams. Yeah. We've seen these veteran quarterbacks. I mean, he came in and played good for you.

We've seen these veteran quarterbacks, though, that I think, and I don't want to talk out of line here, I think these veteran quarterbacks that can read defenses are maybe at a premium now, maybe then maybe they were in the past. Yeah. You're seeing a lot of these OGs getting a second opportunity because of the experience. that they have. Yep. Andy Dalton,

seemingly going to be a guy that some teams are going to want. Is that why we're opening the door? How is that conversation happen with you? I think there's a potential that, you know, somebody may want him and Andy's a really good player and he's a great guy, great culture fit for us. I haven't talked to any teams about a trade,

but I, you know, I think if the possibility did come up, that I would talk to Andy, give him that option and let him, you know, explore trade. So I do think that we want to get. get a little younger and a little more athletic at that backup quarterback spot. So we'll see what happens from there. There's quarterback here in Indianapolis. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but we're not trading. Okay, all right. I'm not giving away draft picks. We've got to build through the draft. Well, we would like some draft picks, okay? Everybody seems to want what you want. AJ has a question for you, Dave. Yeah, we had your owner, David Teperon on the Super Bowl week at Radio Row.

He was, I mean, I don't know what I was, what two, I thought we were. going to be but I love like he was very open very seem like a very real human for being a you know gazillionaire having all the money in the world it seemed very competitive I guess what's like day to day how involved is he week to week and in throughout the season you know we talk almost every day sometimes twice a day he wants to win I want to win the organization wants to win yeah yeah he's so passionate about the team and about the about the guys on the team and quite frankly everybody in the building so Him and Nicole Tepper have been amazing to work with.

And some people don't believe that based on the reputation that he's had. And it couldn't be farther from the truth. He's fun to work with every day. He's funny. He likes having a good time. He's like us. He's a Pittsburgh guy, which I forgot about as I was talking shit about him at the beginning of it all. Because it was easy, I think, to kind of nitpick at a new owner that isn't having success.

And then also soccer team that having success, and then all these other things are happening, got signs outside, and then him throw in the ice. And then him going, can I give my side of that story? Yeah. These guys were just celebrating that my player was hurt right there. Yeah. It's just not, I'm from Pittsburgh.

Sorry, I got a little bit fiery. And it was like, oh, I didn't even think about you having a side. I'm actually a little bit to blame for that because the guy was being just obnoxious all game long. And then finally, I couldn't take it anymore. I told the guy to shut the... Okay, so you were a part of this as well. Yeah.

Okay, so I wish we would have known that this was a... Yeah, exchange. So it wasn't all just him. I think maybe I got him a little route up to it. But on that note, that's probably a moment where you guys... Yep. You guys want to battle together. Yeah, that's good for comparator.

We're a lot of like. We're both very competitive. We're both fiery. We both want to win, so... Where are you from? Philadelphia. Okay, so he's from Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Sympadico, if you will. Now, Pittsburgh's Better City, obviously. Connor has... Nothing like a team kind of fuck that guy together to bring, you know, a front office together.

So that's actually really cool to learn. Another guy in the front office we talked to on Radio Row Hall Famer, Luke Keekely. I'm not sure specifically what his title is right now, but he obviously, a huge weapon for you guys to use. Does he send you questions that you can ask some of these guys to kind of inform, form you on if they are a football genius because it's obviously the clip he doesn't but he is a football genius and obviously like he's one of the best linebackers of all time and I'm just so proud of him for making the Hall of Fame this year couldn't happen to a better guy and obviously an unbelievable

player what are those questions that you are asking you know we heard I forget who said it that they asked about cereal in the morning Schneider yeah John Schneider like do you do any of those you you're just kind of locked in with them hey tell me why you love football Stair at me. Don't blink. Ours is, ours. You have an incredible ability.

I'm telling you. I'm locked in. All right. I got a story after this. Okay. I'll remind you. Yeah. So, you know, we want to know about the guys, right?

Like, we want to know, like, what's their story? What's their football story? When did they fall in love with football? Why did they love football? You only have 20 minutes with them. So we just want to hear their story, like how they grew up. who got them in the football, who were some of their mentors, and why are they playing?

Why do they love it? So we just want to find more about the guy because I feel like if you're going to miss on a player, I think it's more about missing on the guy than it is the actual player. So we just want to dig as much as we can. It feels like those eyes are good at finding it. It's your story that you haven't blinked since you were born?

So everybody, like, in the draft room, yeah, I don't blink a lot. No. It's awesome. Don't blink. That's like what people say. Don't put it. Cut your eyelids off. In the draft room, like, we'll sit there in draft meetings.

And we're in draft meetings from like 7 a.m. to like 8 p.m. And I'll be like locked in to where people are like, hey, can we take a bathroom break? So, yeah. I wear a diaper. You should do it. You do a good job. Joan has a question for you. You were just talking about finding guys in those meetings that love football.

And congratulations. You found one of those in Tedaro of McMillan. offensive rookie of the year but there were questions last year about like if he did love football a volleyball player didn't watch unbelievable volleyball player yeah oh yeah unbelievable but like was when in the process were you like oh that's all bullshit this guy does love ball um and like is that like the main goal of all of the combine for you or is it on field stuff yeah it's so first of all don't listen to the outside noise there's there's going to be rumors but do your own home on guys. And that's what we do. We bring guys in. We talk to them here. We bring guys in on 30 visits. We do a bunch of Zoom calls with them. Like, we're always talking to these guys. We're trying to find out as much information as possible about them. And with TMAC, I mean, it was, it was obvious that the guy loves football. The guy lives, breeze football. He's a baller. He's a great dude. And when he walks into the room, you're like, this guy's mad. This guy's mad.

massive. Like he's big, he's long, and, you know, I don't really play into all the narratives that I heard. I just want to, like, meet the guy face-to-face, look him in the eye and ask him those questions and see how he responds. And he responded really well. Did you watch his volleyball tape? Yeah, yeah, online. Dude, do you know much of volleyball? I don't know how much you know about this sport. No, I don't know much about that. So I played in high school.

So I played in high school. Love the sport. Like, very much loved the sport. It was I had already committed to West Virginia to kick. It was the spring, so I wasn't playing like cups. soccer trying to do the entire thing. Volleyball was a spring sport, played my senior year. It was like with the boys. Like I had so much fun, the amount of strategy, but also the athleticism. Like you are the jump, the explosion is like a real thing. I saw a video of him going from back row, like jumping 10-vall off and like absolutely hammering. It's like, oh,

that guy might have been like an Olympian volleyball player. He's an athlete. Yeah. And then the questions were like, well, he doesn't like ball. And it's like, if I was the greatest volleyball player on earth, I think it would be hard for me to buy into it. And then what he did with you guys. And if, yeah, this is him, right? Yeah, he's unbelievable. I mean, it was, as a former volleyball player, I was watching saying, wow, this bang, right down the line right there. And he hasn't even scratched the surface of how good he can be from a football perspective.

Like, he's going to get bigger, stronger, faster. Like, he's got so much potential. How do you feel about bigger, stronger, faster offseason plans? Like, I assume you guys have 100% attendance and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, we got a good locker room. Like, we got a bunch of guys that they just want to win. So our attendance, I think, will be pretty good. Bryce talked about that.

He said, like, it wasn't like, oh, great, we made the playoffs. They was like, the locker room was pissed after the game. The guys are hungry. I'm telling you, we've all been around it. You know, our locker room is hungry to win. And, you know, we're hungry upstairs and ownership's hungry. So let's eat. Let's go eat.

Sounds like organizational alignment as we talk about a lot. You guys are on the same plan. But going back to, you know, switching subject a little bit, Miami Hurricanes, obviously. So close. Legend of Miami. We got to see their whole. playoff run they're awesome big fast strong very well coach what do you think about Mario Cristobol and that staff is doing down there and are they here to stay it

seems like they they really are Mario that's my guy that's my guy right there so he was oh yeah you two would get along so now that I'm thinking oh yeah just yeah headbut each other every day he was a GA when I was a senior so obviously I was there with him and like that's that's my guy so he's done an excellent job and our new defense coordinator down there he was killing it He did a great job. Having like Malachi Tony and guys like that that they've recruited

they've done a great job at that too. So I think we're going to keep driving on that. You're going to draft a bunch of Miami guys. Yeah, that's tough about the draft. Hold on now, Dan. Let's talk about that. Ruben Bain. Yeah. Short arms. Yeah.

But he's got a powerful lower body. He can bend and he's got some power. He's got a motor. He's got some power. So riddle me this. You're a human. He's not going to be there when we pick. Unless you make a move. At 19.

Unless you make a move. Yeah. Let Tepper get all hopped up. Yeah. Let him get helped up and make some plays. But on that note, so like whenever you think about the dimension stuff, and we've asked this a couple times, a couple different GMs, it feels like if you like a guy, you're going to find reasons why it doesn't matter.

If you don't like a guy, you're going to use it as a reason. Do you think that's probably accurate? Humans are making these decisions at the end of the day, right? Yeah, for sure. For sure. Listen, we always say it like, hey, can we make his arms like 30? 31 on the card so it looks better. Like if you want a guy, like, you can make every excuse.

So I think you really just got to stick to your process. You've got to stick to what you do. And there's always outliers in every draft. And you just got to decide if, hey, is that outlier? Is he going to defeat that, you know, outlier stigma? Yeah. And he took over games. I mean, we watch it.

You did too, obviously watching the entire run. He was, he had an aura. and a presence about it. And then this thing. He's a bull. Sick. He's so awesome. Messador, he's a ball.

He might be available. I mean, there's a lot of karma. Go ahead, Con, man. Miami played in a bunch of big games. And, you know, Ohio State, some of those schools. Is that important when you're looking at some players? Like, hey, these guys have been in big moments. They've performed in big moments.

For sure. When they get to the NFL, every moment is massive and it won't be too big for them. Is that something that you kind of consider, like, the school conference type play? Yeah, so we, um, um, our analytics department, they put together like a blue blood score. So it's against, you know, how they do against good opponents. So I think that's really important to see how these guys do against top level competition as opposed to playing against the lower tier schools.

Yeah. Yeah. So what are we looking for? Just good players, dogs, dogs, dogs on them? Dogs, dogs and good players. Her is a good livebacker class. Yeah. It is.

Yeah, what are the positions? Do you get fired up about that? What are the positions that we should talk about? Like you think are deep in this class. I think outside linebacker, linebacker, running backs week this year. There's some tight ends that are good players in this draft, some corners, some safeties. So there's a bunch of guys I'm excited. More of a defensive league now?

A defensive league, yeah. No, I don't think so. I mean, I think it's always an offensive league right now. You know, points are what everybody wants to score, what everybody wants to see. But when you have a good defense, you see what it does. Keeps you in every game. Exactly. Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, I was like at you as a former linebacker when it is a really good linebacker class, is it hard for you to not kind of focus on them more? Like, or you're like, I'm a GM now. I can't. Yeah, I mean, maybe at first, but I'm kind of out of that now. Now it's just more about like putting the team together and trying to like fit all the pieces of the puzzle together. And what about like you have guys like Arval Reese who. who are just absolute freaks.

And then you have guys like Jacob Rodriguez, who their production is absurd. How do you go, you know, potential versus production that you've seen? Yeah, I mean, to me, I'm always going to go with the production. Okay. You know, so, you know, even like a guy that maybe makes like a big senior push and, you know, had a big year in his six year. Like, to me, like, you do have to be a little careful with that.

Yeah. You're looking for guys that have been consistently productive throughout their career. Potential, get your ass fire. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. I think that is a former player thing. Yeah.

I think there's a lot of things that benefit you being a former player being in your position. Yeah. Because we've all been in the locker room, watch guys come in there were supposed to be good. And all of a sudden, we're losing games and they're gone before four or five weeks because they can't figure it out. I think it's a weapon for you. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, I guess what's your goal coming into this week as the GM of Carolina? You've been here many times, obviously, in other roles.

But what's your, like when you come here this week, do you have any, I need to see this group or this type of people or What do you want to come away with this? So I really come down here more for the interviews than I do anything. We watch these guys all year long, so it's nice to put a face to a name. And just even if it's 20 minutes, just sitting there, like, get to know the guy, get a little bit of feel for the guy that you may be calling on draft night and maybe figure out like, hey, do we need to bring this guy in and, you know, kick the tires a little more and, like, figure them out a little more than what we already did.

You just mentioned about, sorry, fight him, fight him. Yeah, yeah, you should have to sit out of me. I'm not blinking, I saw it. But what you just mentioned to Tony about how it's kind of a weak running back class as opposed to other years. You guys bring in Rico Dattle, and he's one of the stories of the season it felt like, especially when Chuba Hubbard is one of your leaders.

Do you feel like there's kind of more established running backs that aren't getting as fair of a shake in places, and that's why even when it's a weak running back class, you can kind of scout the other players that, you know, some teams like the Cowboys who drafted Rico, but then, you know, kind of let them go. Is it better to go after guys like that at certain positions where you know, hey, this guy can be an absolute stud in our system

versus one that they might have been in before? Yeah, a little bit. Like, we did that with Rico last year. Like, he ran all over us. And, you know, we thought we could get him in free agency. And, you know, the price worked out for both. sides. I mean, we pulled the trigger on that. So, yeah, you're always

looking for that value. He was the best player in a league for a little while last year. For two months. Ty Schmidt, who's on our show, I think he'll be back tomorrow. Ty, we miss you, we love you, man. He's Packers fan. Who's that? Who's that? Ty Schmidt. Oh, okay. He came in on

Monday. He was like, is Rico Donald the best player? And he wasn't the only one. There was a lot of teams against the dolphins. He went for over 200. He killed the Cowboys. Cowboys. Yeah. I mean, that becomes a good thing, I think, for the entire team, whenever you hit on something like that, right? Yeah, for sure.

I mean, that's the goal every year is that just kind of maybe find those free agents, those second-wave free agents, if you want to say, like diamonds in the rough. How much money do you have? Not a ton, but, you know, you can always make money. Okay, so that's kind of what Bean. Bean said we're going to be like 15, 19 over, but we're going to make some moves. And then we had Borganzi on. He has 100 million over there in tennis. Yeah, I think we're on the low, I think we're like right in the middle.

Nine. It looks about 9.8. Nine million. Yeah, we're looking at it. Who knows if this is accurate. Shout to Spotrack, by the way. Spotrack does a lot for us, but he's also expanding. Have you seen what Spotrack's doing?

Oh, yeah. Projecting contracts. Maybe you check it out. Projecting contracts, values. We do that. Do you? We do that in-house. Oh, in your own.

You have your own Spotrack. Yeah, we just, I mean, we always get together. How does that come together? Okay, okay. So I go to, what's that car auction? Beakum. Meekam. And what's the other one? There's another one.

These two auctions. So we'll have like the APY list. Barrett Jackson. So I'll go in there. Yes. Carr will be coming by. Yeah. And in my head I'm like, I'll spend $17,000 on that,

but I'm not literally not going a dollar over. You're doing same thing in free agency at different positions, different players. How's that go? Because I remember who was a Carolina Panther last year and then one up to. Milton Williams. Yeah. Melton Williams was a Panther and then he went up to New England. He was going to be.

Yeah, it was reported. Yeah. I think it was reported that he was going to be there by Shephti, who knows everything. But so then is there like a number you're like, ah, we can't do that? Like, how do you kind of formulate that stuff? So in free agency, you know, we have basically like a spreadsheet and it'll have the APY of each guy and by position. So you can basically be like, okay, Milton Williams, where does he slot within this? And then you just kind of slot him in there and you're like, okay, like, he's worth this.

This is where we can go. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I love the amount of business that has to happen behind the scenes before these decisions. And then when you're in it, it's like, do we hold on to the rules we made before we were in here? It gets tough. That's where you've got to have discipline. Legit.

And I think that's probably where Tepper is probably good because of his history and finance. Pepper and Brandtills, he does a really good job, too. So I have a good team. All right. All right. Yeah, Pelotone. Still. All you guys.

Everybody pelotons, man. Is that because you can put it in the office? It's just easy. I have it at my house. I actually wake up in the morning, and I work out before I go to work. What time? What time are we up? 4.30.

These eyes want to open. They never want to close. Okay, so there's a certain bedtime, too, we need? 9 o'clock. Every day? Yeah, 9.30. Small sleep the second of you way down? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. What happens if the Panthers are on late? Are you like, well. This sucks. Can we get some more? Then I'm exhausted. Yeah. And I won't work out the night.

next day. Yeah. Okay. That makes me feel better. That a machine actually does take a couple days off. Yeah, how many straight weeks? Because Bob Salo's a losing in sleep probably. 1007 straight weeks for Bob Salah.

Bob Salah has 107 weeks straight with at least one workout on Peloton. I mean, I probably have that. Which means. I have a checked. Yeah, I don't know where this stat is. He was pretty happy about it. Do you race people? What's that?

Do you race real people in real time? You can do that way? You can't, yeah, you can do that, but usually when I'm working. Usually when I'm working out, like nobody's up there. So, because my eyes are wide open. Yes, they are. 4.30 a.m. workout on the peloton. Those fuckers have no idea who's walking.

You got some mom that's like, yeah, early Roger before the kids, let's get out here. What is this eyes wide open guy? Lord Pastor. I'm going to change my, yeah. Eyes on your tag on. I don't know. Profile picture. Yeah.

Actually, I think it should just be a. It should just be a black shirt that just has. Too open. I'll make it. Do you remember those no fear? The no fear logo? Exactly. Oh, yeah.

I had those. Can you throw? I know you're a defensive guy. I can, but it's going to look bad because my left shoulder's jacked up. Can't lift. Are you left? You're laughing. I'm a laughing.

I'm a lefty. I'm a lefty. Yeah, it's all. It's like a kind of a frozen shoulder. Like I can barely lift it above my head, but I can throw. Can you tell me about where you, you were causing CT with your hits and how do you think about

now how the game has gone? Like it feels like it's a fool and are those The green goo? Yeah. This is Celsius. Okay. So that's how we do. Celsius and Desailles. Celsius and water. Okay.

This guy's drinking energy drinks. All day. I like it. Holy chess. You got to stay up down here, man. Celsius is no joke. Oh, I love it. It does taste.

You're just, you're just, Mix, hold on. Okay. Do the packet. Okay, there's a packet. Yeah, there's a packet. Okay, I thought you were. I'm not like dumping it in there.

Yeah, making it off the counter. I thought you might have a funnel. I thought you had a funnel. Yeah, I mean, I would do that if I had to. Yeah. Which is why, hey, which is why we respect you. Yes. Let's talk about the game as a whole, though.

I assume AJ, like, loves you. Like, AJ loves you. We're LBs. Bam. I mean, yeah. And I think style. You should see his mere advisory head in Miami, That was amazing.

Yeah. A lot of sway, a lot of moxie for a Philly kid playing for the U. But also, I think, like, we're hitting people. Yep. You know, like we're trying to really do it. Yeah. Striking. Yeah.

Violent. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of we're doing this. The game is completely evolved, right? How do you feel about where it's at right now? How do you feel about the state of the game? I think it's awesome. We're still getting huge hits. I think it took a generation of kids together the heads-up football program

and all that shit that they, like, initiated 10, 15 years ago? Yeah. It's definitely safer than when we played. You know, we're like going, like, face first in the stuff and knocking ourselves out. And so, yeah, things are a lot better now, especially, like, all the offseason stuff. There's more time, you know, for the guys to get rest. And even, like, the OTAs and the mini camps, like, they're not as intense as they used to be. I love it.

I love where the game's at. I love where the league's at, bro. It was fun to watch Charlotte come alive. Yeah, I appreciate that. You know, because Charlotte has so many down here. i mean obviously luke holmes is like the man who loves urake eric church loves it's i mean there cam newton coming back was awesome it's like that city is that was awesome it was yeah that place was crazy i think he did he put a hole in that thing i don't know if he did

torbert did i believe uh i think kepler did too tollbert man that guy was impossible to tackle legs are this big that's a hub though like and i think people forget like hey charlotte is a hub for a of shit. You've got to give them a reason to show up. Bingo. But just like Indianapolis, like Charlotte hosts a lot of things. Charlotte's a great city. Charlotte has it all. And if your NFL team is playing well, it kind of spotlights it all. You know, so the fact that you're doing that for a city that we love and is so awesome. So I can't wait to see what you do out there. Good football team. Hey, Panthers are good football too. Yeah, we do. Panthers are a good football team. Yeah, I like that. Okay, so you've heard us say this. Oh, yeah, I have. I have. I like that.

That's a good football team. Because you beat a team and everybody's like, this team sucks. They lost to the Panthers. And we're just like, hey. That's good football. Panthers are a good football team. That is a good football team. Appreciate that.

Soon, I think. It's a great football team. You know what else? You guys were, I believe, 9-0 or 10-0 against a spread after a loss. Great bounceback team. Thank you for that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

No, we appreciate that. That's what we were telling me. We knew. Hey, if there was a loss, you guys were fucking winning the next game. Bet-off. Hopefully that doesn't happen too much. There you go. Oh, okay.

Cool. Now they're a legend. Oh, shit. Looks like he ain't go run a 40? I don't know. Yeah, you probably tackle him. A couple of times. What's up?

Frank, good to see you. Man. What's up, man? How are you doing? How are you doing? Frank? Frank, Frank. Frank, Frank.

Do you want us to? Yeah, do you just want to fall down? The shoes are beautiful. Yeah, that would work. Here you go, here go. Here go, here. We love you, dude. You know I love you, dude.

You know I love you, baby. Come on, dude. I wish you would have been with us in San Fran. I told him all the time when I play with him at the course. Yeah. I'll be back. I'll be back. Okay, we'll be here tomorrow too.

We appreciate you, Frank. Hey, you think I could slip one in you? We'll try. What do you think, Frank? That's a great dude right there. Dude, unbelievable. Yeah. Where's no pads?

Nope. Did he play soccer cleats? Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah, I think the first thing I said to him was like, hey, you're fucking hilarious. And he goes, whoa, why, you know, because he's quiet. I'm like, you got no pads on.

You're wearing soccer cleats. I don't know what size they're. those socks are, that's definitely not what you're supposed to be wearing. And you don't care at all. He didn't care about any of it. Great teammate. Yeah. Be loved by everybody.

Worked his ass off. Like, I loved Frank. I was so lucky to be his teammate. I was so lucky to be his teammate. But he did tell me a lot of times like, hey, if you would have been in San Fran with you, you were supposed to be with us. Yeah. Thank you, man.

I appreciate that. That's an honor to hear that. And I would love the city out there. Dan, you said you can't. throw great, but because you're a competitor, because you're an athlete, I think you're going to get the job done. Will you like to attempt a $100,000 throw? Let's go ahead. Come on, Dan.

Yeah, he's competitive. Let's go, Don't make fun of me. Never would. We will. Definitely. You can, though. You can. You can't.

You can come over here. You're a lefty? I can't believe he's drinking. Okay. How old are you, brother? 47. God, you look good. I want to let you know, the guy right over there, wait until you take your headset off and said,

I can't believe this guy's drinking piss. There is some people that are wondering whether or not Celsius. It's good, though. Piss? Or Celsius. Okay, 47 years old, obviously a defensive legend, current general manager for the Carolina Panthers. If you put this football into that hole right there, we will donate $100,000 to a charity of your choosing. Is that sound good, dude?

Sounds good. All right, why don't you go ahead and do that thing? Let's athlete that thing in there, shall? Come on, not that. He shredded his shoulder giving CT. Okay. Good zip on. Yeah, he's bringing it down.

Good zip. Hold on. He's going quick. Put that. Yeah. He put that in a pocket. He can't lift it above his arm, you know. Do you throw it at practice ever?

No, no. There's a quarterback that didn't show up to a workout that I was out in Memphis. There was a running back working out, and I had the throw, and it was ugly. Did the kid get the gig or no? What's that? The kid get the job or no. No, he didn't get the job. He had no chance.

We had no chance. We'd strap them because I couldn't tell if he was good or not. Okay, well, let's not think about that. Let's not think about the first throw. Let's go ahead and put this thing into that hole for $100,000 donation and to a charity of your choosing. Oh, yeah. Hey, that kid, it might have been the running back.

Just sucks, bro. That was a great throw. Dan, we appreciate to the boys love you. Good luck in Carolina and thanks for everything, man. Appreciate you guys. Oh, my goodness. This is get weird. Yeah, it is.

They don't. They don't. He dominates his kids in the staring contest. My son's the same. God. That's a skill. That's a skill.

I don't think I will. I don't think I will. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, dude. Good luck down there. Please tell everybody in Carolina, we love them and appreciate it. Hey, Dave, Dave, hey, hey, real quick. Hey, last question, need this.

Dave, giving up play calling duties. What's that all about? We like that? We don't like that? Why do you? Yeah, I mean, I think he just kind of wanted to be more of a head coach. Is that a decision that you talk with him? Everybody talks about?

Yeah, we talked together, but it was his. decision okay so yeah we don't we're not think I think it'll be good okay and I know he's excited about it okay cool so we shouldn't make a big deal of that no okay good you can always take it back yeah we got a group of lads over here I don't know you look to be strapping see you Dan good luck dude everybody's just leaving we do the meetings and we'll get out of here yeah it's kind of it's interesting everyone's the last it's too good of a TV product so they watch on home they're here for the meeting so I'm

I mean, that started with, for us, learning the Chargers. Remember, the Chargers always come on Wednesday. And for our show, they stopped by. And we're like, where are you guys going next? They're like, home. It's like, the workouts start tomorrow. Like, exactly. So we're going to go watch this.

Got to be in my seat for. It's like, what are you here for? Well, I'll hear for the meetings, here to kind of learn about the guys, put a face to a name. There's been a lot of that. It feels like the interactions are what the combine's all about. That's why the NFL spring break happening here in Indianapolis is so damn perfect. The city is conducive.

Do we know who these guys are that are just kind of standing here? It looks like they're potential workout guys. Yeah, I was going to say it kind of looks like they are kids that might be working the combine field itself. That would be the equipment managers from the Colts, right? Isn't that normally who? I don't know. I don't know. Hey, who are you guys? A rugby team?

Yeah, you guys. Okay, sweet. Boy, said? I don't know. Congrats. See what they say? What did you say? Huh?

We're working. They're working. Oh, where are you guys from? Taylor University. Oh, hell yeah. Good to see you, boys. Thank you for stopping by. Baylor or Taylor?

Good to see you. What's Taylor? Taylor? I'll tell you what. I could have been a college. I threw out university. Felt good about it being right. I assumed you knew.

Foss is working the beer stand over there, so that's nice. Yeah, grabbing a couple of pints. Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? That's the problem. That's exactly what we're talking about. He's behind the bar. That's exactly what we're talking about right there. It is a spectacular.

spectacle. It is a spectacular spectacle. And, you know, with where we are, obviously this is absurd that we get to use this. Shout to Lucasola. Shout to Indianapolis. I don't want to continue to reiterate this, but there was a time where the combine was a massive show. Remember, it was like a huge spectacle. And then I don't know if the NFL network kind of just took it in and I kind of took it over and like, hey, nobody's allowed in here because then they start to convention center, radio row.

And it's like once we get the relationship. chips that we kind of get in this entire thing, and we're from Indianapolis. It's like, hey, the combine's like a very special event, not only for the NFL, but for our city of Indianapolis. We'd like to try to at least do a show from there. And then the people of Indy, you know, come up to me and they're like, hey, you know, nobody's using the horseshoe stage or whatever. And I'm like, the one that's right in the dead center.

And they're like, yeah, and I'm like, could we use that? And the people are like, yeah, we will certainly allow you to do that. And I'm like, sick. So then Roger Goodell and the NFL gets in. and then obviously with ESPN, helping out with the production of it all. It's like we're very lucky and thankful to be here. And getting to hang out downtown, usually because we're from Indianapolis, I would never hang out downtown.

But like hanging out downtown after the show and before the show has been so much fun getting a chance to see people that I haven't seen in a long time, meet people that I haven't ever got a chance to meet, even talk to people that maybe we have buried on this show. And then walking into a room and just be like, I have no idea how this is going to go. I remember distinctly us saying some

funny, definitely funny. That's our job. Shit about it. And that's how they all reacted. That is literally how they all reacted. Everybody that I've talked to has been very gracious to us and very welcoming to us in our show. And we can't thank everybody enough

for allowing us to do this. Honestly. That's the people that watch and the people that had to approve all of this shit. So we're thankful to be here and it continues tomorrow. And tomorrow, feel good golden Friday. Jackie Hughes will be We'll be here live in person. We cannot wait to chat with the gold medal boy, Jack Hughes,

what he did last night at his Devils game with Tage Thompson, with the Buffalo where they did an entire, like, I don't want to say ceremony because it didn't, it was kind of a ceremony of a celebration of him. I thought it was really cool. Cannot wait to chat with him. And shout to the Devils fans reacting the way that they certainly reacted. And Megan Keller will be joining us via Zoom call. I would like to let everybody know.

offered up private travel for her to come and join us live alongside Jack so we could have a nice gold medal celebration of the hockey teams and us being the greatest hockey country on earth, the home of hockey. Us being the hockey capital of this here planet. Canada used to have it. Not anymore. Sorry, Gumpy. It's 45 more straight and you'll be tied. Way to go. this guy we're just looking for right now. Congratulations by the way. Thank you for the congratulations. I liked hearing that from McKinnon too whenever he. Well, they chopped that quote. Let's be fair. No, people don't do that.

They chopped that quote. They did them dirty. That was one of the sentences. And then he said United States won the game. And he was still salty about it and said you be the judge. He certainly was salty about it, which I certainly could be if I was them as well, because they did. But Hallibuck. Yeah. Saw every puck.

A hundred shots is not enough. We own the sport. That is so tough. He's on his head. That's Al-a-Buck. So we'll talk to Megan tomorrow via Zoom. She's in Ottawa. She cannot make it to Indianapolis, although we did extend.

Also, if the women's hockey team or anybody else puts together any big-time parties that we hear about, would love to be a part of it. Love buying drinks for people that do awesome things. We're incredibly thankful for all. of our athletes are represented in our country. We'll get a chance to chat with a few of them tomorrow and also in the next week. I believe we got Michaela Schiffrin stopping by the show next week. I believe we've got Alex Ferreira starting to showcase and spotlight all that is great in sports and athleticism.

And whenever you talk about great things happening in sport, you can't help but talk about big Turk Lesnar. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Highlights hit the internet of Turk Lesnar. First of all, is this the greatest name of all time? Up there. Potentially.

16 years old. 6-2-2-30 out of the JPM. Okay, they're in the playoffs right now. His Calgary team is certainly in it. He had a hat trick while also dummy in like six different dudes. Tell me about your third bingo, Paul. Hey, talk about the third bingo. I just got it from, I think Beersie said it to me,

and I'm barred down. And it was just like such a magical moment here of hockey and sports celebration. And the fact that Brock's boy, Turk, is out there doing it. He's a defenseman putting up hat. tricks, three bingoes, and fighting eight people in one video that I saw on the internet. This is what we're talking about. Hockey's the greatest sport. In Turk, I know you've played a lot of hockey up there in Canada.

When the time comes, you know what to do. You know what uniform to put on power. Oh, yeah. You know who it's going to be for. And I'll tell you what, Maya Lesnar, all eyes are on the Olympics in L.A. Turk Lesnar, all eyes are. on the Olympics coming up. And then there's a little Lesnar.

Ooh. Yeah, there's a younger Lesnar that is also on the eyes. And when the dad is maybe the most dominant athletic creature that has ever been put out there, what a time to be alive. Hey, Big Turk, keep doing it, Bob. Hell yeah, Turk. And the entire Calgary team, good luck winning the league. I hope you guys do that.

And maybe a couple more bingoes for the boys. Yeah, a couple bingos. A couple apples. The insiders are no longer going to be live. I've seen they took their set down. Okay. That's interesting. NFL live, I believe, is going to be live.

I believe they're live, right? Well, I see Tannenbaum and Field Yates. Oh, that's that Draft Daily show. Oh, okay. That's a draft daily show on ESPN2. I believe NFL live will be live from over here as well. I think I saw Shreggs. I believe Dono is over here.

I see Laura Rutledge is in town. Chefty's still sitting over here. The whole team. Yeah. Everybody's filing in for the... Oh, Sean Payton. Not calling plays anymore. What happened?

Hold on. Can you walk right over here? Sean, can you walk right over here? There's a microphone right here, Sean. Can you walk right here? Yeah. You're Sean Payton. You can do whatever you want. It's like a urinal. I just come up to it. Yes, yes. Exactly.

Yes, exactly. First of all, congratulations. Hey, hell of a season. Honestly, you're on air right now. Yeah, we're wrapping up, but then we saw you. Yeah, listen, I'll stop and talk with you guys anytime. Can we get two quick minutes? Congratulations.

Thank you. You didn't win a Super Bowl, but fuck. You guys are in a great spot. now. We're young. Yes, it feels like you're young and you're obviously building and you can see and feel what you're building. Is that how you feel about the Denver?

I would say this. I think, yeah, absolutely. We're in a much better position cap-wise now. Yeah. And you kind of approach it like, hey, we're going to play young players. And you guys have seen this long enough now. Young and naive can be dangerous sometimes. And when you have one of those teams and they get

this type of experience last year, first round of the playoffs this year, you know, into the second of the last weekend. You just, yeah, you get excited about coming back and looking at another draft class now. Yeah, so let's talk about it. I don't want to bring up, you know. Bring up anything. Bo getting hurt, man. We are so sorry.

It was on the third, third to last play of the game. And he had come over to the sideline, you know, after the injury took place, we, He threw a deep pass, pass interference, and it was a significant play. We're going to kick this chip shot. And so when he comes over, I kind of jack him in the shoulder like, ah, you know. And he's like, ah. And I was like, what's, I said, you'll be fine. I said, watch this kid hit this field goal.

We're going to be in the championship. I jabbed him again. And all the while, he's. And so we get into the locker room. It's pretty common where I would do the media. And then after he got undressed and showered, he, go do the media. And when I came back from the presser, they're the trainer, doctor, and I didn't know, I knew something was up. They were in my office there. I just didn't know who. And then they,

they told me it was Bowen. So, well, it was Saturday night. We weren't going to see our team till Monday. And I thought, there's no way this story goes. Yeah. You know, until Monday. And I just, so I showered and went back and just said, hey, here's what happened. And it was, you know, It was kind of this surreal feeling or numbing, if you will, because so many things have just gone on. You just won a big game, but you just lost your quarterback. And it's, shoot, it's unfortunate. You know, it's one of those deals.

Yeah, it's football. I mean, it's the NFL, it's football. That's going to happen. But obviously, you hope that that is not the case. I feel like for you guys, though, you'll be able to use that as motivational off season, right? It feels like. Yeah, I think, look, the one thing, and you guys all know this,

As tough as it is, like it's like freaking shoots and ladders, though. Like table gets flipped up, dice get put away, open it back up, you started zero. And you start the journey again. Now you're more experienced. You've got more confidence. You've added some key pieces. And I think with every season, there are these extremely important games. Maybe in 17 weeks, there might be two.

You know, when that road win at Philly on a short week was one of those wins. And so as we get ready this year, you know, we're going to have a good schedule. Obviously, we play the NFC West. You know, pretty good. Three of those teams were all playoff teams. But you do have to recharge and start again. You push the offseason schedule back a little bit. Normally it starts mid-April.

Our guys won't come in until the 1st of May. And then we won't see him. We won't do a football item until June. June. Like they'll just be lifting for a month before we ever, you know, because you don't want them to feel like we're back here at practice again and we were just here. It wasn't enough time. Yeah. Refresh. You want like a gap. And honestly, they need that and we need that. And so I like when they have like a good month of just, so we'll just do phase one for a month regardless of what the schedule says. And then we'll do OTAs in a mini camp in June.

I love that. And once again, you're a gangster so you can do these things. You know, you can walk into a place. That's what we're doing. Yeah, that's what you, exactly. You can do that because of who you are. Your resume says that. I think here's the other thing, though, we're constantly selling. Like, so we had an injury issue. That first year I got there, they had finished 32nd with players missed games because of injury. 130 some players. And we spent a lot of time and money with our training staff. it's hard to have that room be something the players love. Yes. You follow me?

Yes, agreed. It's always like that Shangri-La, somewhere else it's better. And that very first off-season, after 23, we put the numbers up, and we reduced it to 36, first in the league. Two years ago, first in the league, first in the league. So they believe in, like, part of it is, like, hey, I want you to be here, but tell me why. And then we could show them, here the numbers. you're doing the right thing and as a result of it

our team's healthier. Yeah, and also you have one of the most prolific offenses in the history documented multiple times. So you are a guru genius, so the boys are going to buy into that. Got great shoe games, so the swag is obviously ridiculous. Yep, always you are. You're giving up playcalling? I am. This feels like a huge deal. Have you ever done, have you ever given a play calling before? The first time

I, in 2011, and fractured my tip plateau in a Tampa Bay game. A play came into the sideline, and it was, you know, a surgery Monday. It was like a nine-month recovery. But anyway, all during the week, I'm in the hospital, and I tell Pete, hey, you're going to have to run the meetings, call the plays.

We're playing the Colts Sunday night football. In New Orleans? Hayton is not playing. Yeah, Curtis is playing. Yeah, I played quarterback. Okay, let me, can I tell you our angle of this? Go ahead. This is a good story.

I was scout team quarterback against our defense. And boy, if I looked left and then to the right, tight end was wide open right down. I threw for 50 touchdowns that week, maybe with your offense. And then you guys did the same. You just, so if you were having that success, we just had to, like, find a way for Drew to have it. Yes. Yeah, Drew Brees. First ballot hall of favor.

Yeah, exactly. So I remember I was back in the office for Friday's meeting. meetings and really, you know, you're out of touch. You have surgery. And we're playing Sunday night. I'm in the press box and Pete's calling the game. And we win 63 to something. I said to Pete, you were killing me.

You know, I'm getting ready to do a new contract. I'm up in the press box. We score record total points in the history of the Saints organization. Anyway, I got pissed at Fred. Goodellie because I had a dip in and they put the camera. And I got I got busted with the dip in. You won people over.

So this would be the second time. That was the first time. And look, it's happened a few times. I think this young coach, and I say young, Davis Webb is something. And sure, it's funny, the timeline that when you have a young coach, like a Joe Brady or a Declan Doyle or any of these guys that I've been fortunate enough to hire when they're young coaches, like what you think is their timeline of success, position coach, coordinator, head coach is always two years behind with the league sees.

It's much quicker. And so I remember interviewing Davis. He's one of those few players that came from playing right into coaching. There's usually a couple of years. And he finished the interview. And we had a schedule with some other guys lined up. And he's heading to the airport. I turned to George Payton on my.

Like I said, I don't know what we're doing letting them leave the building. Call the driver back up. He comes back and hire him. But he's going to be one of those guys. Like, just as I'm making him a coordinator, it's just, it's not on your timeline. Yeah. And they just, and the same thing happens with these young players that all of a sudden hit it. And they, it's a young man's league.

So I'm excited for him. Look, I'll still be involved. having done it before, the thing that is a little unusual, like when you're in those studio sets, chairs, I did this with Fox, like, where do you put your hands? Do I put my, how do I? Yeah, sure. And on game day, you feel like, like, you got a call sheet.

You're looking at it, like, you're kind of empty-handed. Yeah, I'm excited to watch you be a CEO full on. Yeah, me too. And I'm excited to see that evolution for you. AJ has a question for you, co. Yeah, you talked about the team health and how you figured that out once you got there. We know you come from. Bill Parcell's coaching tree.

We know, like, your practices are legendary. Your training camp is known to be very, very tough, very hard-nosed. I guess, how have you worked that out over the years? So here's the one thing I think all of us have gotten better with is you have to cycle up and down. There's never this just straight. And so how we approach the day following a day off is much different. It's a... Ramp?

We have these alert days that we are not going to have anyone. get injured on these alert days. And so it's a ramp up. It's a plateau. It's a ramp down. And we're not, I mean, we've learned a lot since we had a seven-week training camp in Jackson, Mississippi that first year. Oh, yeah. I've heard about those.

Yeah, the legendary story. That's changed, right? Okay, yeah. And so, but I do believe you have to build a callus, though, relative to inside run, play in some preseason games. we're not three days on, a day off, three days. And now I can say all that, but then when you go three years in a row and point to the data,

the thing I think is most important, though, is this time of the year, like when they join us again, I really don't want coaches talking to them about football. If the conversation exists, I want it to be about your family or how much your benching, what your weights like.

Like I want that month, month and a half, And I remember Bill was that way. I mean, I'd run out with the QBs. And the first time, it's my first year with Bill, and they're throwing the receivers. And he calls me over. He said, if one of those guys gets a hamstring, I'm going to have another quarterback receiver coach.

But you want them pulling into the parking lot, not feeling like they're coming to practice. Like they're actually coming to train. And there's, you know, all the stuff they need, the supplement center. We're building a new facility. So we are selling. You know, because it's a choice, and you just want to make it so good that it's way better than any other option you have.

I wish I could have played for you. And I know you guys opened up an office that was in that building just a couple years ago. Oh, yeah. There's one upstairs in a parking lot and everything. Yeah. They, um, we're three months away from moving literally right across the field to a new facility. Oh, really? And so right after mini camp, we'll pack everything up.

And when we come back for training camp, we'll be in the new. And it's literally just on the other side. of the practice field. That's a dream situation. New facility, young QB, young team, experience early. Life has to be good. Last question for you, coach. Yeah, coach, you're on the competition committee now. What is kind of the most pressing thing? I am. I was on it before, and I was asked a bunch of questions the other day, and the problem is Sunday I had gotten and food poisoning. And I literally was in this Marriott for like 24 hours.

And I beat up or no? Listen, not yet. I had the pediolite, all that stuff. And but I didn't get to the first two meetings. And so I'm doing my media session and they're asking me about this. And I'm just trying to cruise through it. Fortunately, there aren't a lot of big items. Yeah.

You know, it doesn't appear. I'll get up to speed and be there before. for the owners meetings, but look, I like those topics. When you're passionate about the game and, yeah, I'm easy to get fired up on some of those things. Oh yeah. Hey coach, the refs, the union renegotiation happening, that's a huge deal.

It is, and are we gonna fix that ever? I'm so removed from it. Okay, okay. Like in other words, I have no idea what that means. I know there's a union. I know that the last time they had that, you know, there was a challenge, right? Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, like, all I was thinking about is, like, my cycle getting off the plane,

and it was every 25 minutes that I was having to, and I knew that it was 28 minutes from the airport to the hotel. And it was 1250 in the morning, and my driver didn't speak English, and I thought, if I asked him to get out, he might leave me here. It was eight degrees. And I thought, this is where I'm going to die. And then I get to the hotel and the manager's training someone to check in. Oh, yes. And I said, not with this room.

The worst. Now is the time. I need my key. Immediately, yeah. No, all good though. It's good to be back here. You know, I'm just from right up the road. I went to camp here, Franklin, Indiana for so many years.

My high school coach was from Indianapolis. I didn't know any of that. Yeah, I'm from Illinois. So I used to go to Franklin College. Oh, did you hear? Did you hear Illinois? No. the governor of Indiana was just on,

he's saying the Bears are coming to Indiana. Really? Yeah, he's like very, he was sitting right here. Confident. People don't realize back in the day when we all watched, and you guys may not have, you're young, but you remember Brian's song? Brian Piccolo.

I do. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Very sad. That was a St. Joe's University, which is no longer a school. That's where their training camp was. So when you see those old films of the Bears coach, you know, they trained in northern Indiana for,

for a number of years. Pete Ward, President of the Colts, sent me a text while I was talking to the governor. That's really unbelievable. Yeah, that's happening. He seems that the governor... Very calm. He seems to think he was going to happen.

And quietly, I think the chiefs move from... Missouri. Missouri to Kansas. Yeah. And that was kind of... Yeah. And I think people didn't...

Because a lot of people, Kansas City, they're in Kansas. Well, the whole country woke up and we didn't pay any attention to it. We paid attention when the Colts moved from Baltimore here. Oh, yeah. But I think it's hard to believe being from the Chicago area that the Bears are going to be in northern Indiana. I think it's happening.

Pete Ward said the president of the Colts, he said Hammond had an NFL team back in the 1920s. There you go. Good squad. The Hammond pros. And so I don't think people realize how close like if you're from the Chicago area, Notre Dame kind of became your adopted university a little bit.

Back when there wasn't, you know, and there are a ton of alumni, it's not that big of a drive. Did you watch the Olympics? I did. How awesome is that one, Ed? When we win anything, I get so excited. Like the women's team, when Keller cooks Canada in overtime,

it's like, what a moment. The men doing what they did on the second and last day of the Olympics. How about the skater from Wisconsin? and they showed the little ice track his parents, Doug. Jordan Stoles? Yeah, he was a star. Star. Yes, he absolutely was.

I got captivated by all that. Just competing, I think, is what we like. No, it's good. And there's something about the winter games. I don't know why. And I'm kind of the traditionalists where some of the X-game stuff, I don't know when it was like, when did that. Get to the Olympics.

But, you know, the traditional was like the ski jump, the lose. Those are all the conventional ones. and then all of a sudden there'll be one of these. You're like, I don't know when they slipped that in me. You're the man. Good luck this entire offseason. Thank you, coach. Great seeing you guys.

Thank you. Hey, congrats, dude. You're the man. Thank you, man. Hey, never a doubt, by the way, Sean. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean. Yeah, Sean. Could be late to a meeting there.

For sure. Yeah. His person was behind him. Probably running the meeting. Yeah. He's jogging. Yeah. A little pep in step.

Shefty. Chafty, catch up. We need the news. chefty we need the news chefty's a shout at chefty we need the news he caught up to him

shrags just showed up over here holy hell we might have him on the program tomorrow he was just sitting here on the director's chair for like seven hours this morning on get up and first take just telling everything he knows from the bars and the greatest brunch spot maybe in America that he needs to keep his mouth

shut yeah he does yeah ruining that for everybody I'm assuming he might have gotten a nougier too. Hey, Peter, why don't you shut your trap, buddy? You want to be invited next year? Peter's kind of giving away. Is Ian and Jordo seen each other? Yeah, they did. It was a big chest to chest. Wouldn't that be awesome to see them chest bump? A face off? They were chin to chin. Yeah.

Imagine, I mean, take their shirts off to a face off. You're like Dana White in the middle of them. Lads, how you doing, boys? Good to see you guys. We haven't seen rap, but we're also above like five, five. Did see? Yeah. Whoa. All right. Let's get out of here. He walked by. Shrek, do you know anything about wrapping Schultz? Anything go on yet?

Two fights. We should have them do a little stare-dial. That'd be cool. And then they could squash the beef. Or they'd start the beef. Well, we could sell it as, hey, guys, squash the beef, and then all of a sudden they get into a fight. Maybe they call Zufa. And we give them both, like, drugs.

Don't tell the U.S. We have to fight. Get them on. Give them both meth. Yeah. All right. Let's get out of here. Let's find it.

Go ball. Hey, AJ. Thank you for traveling. Thank you. This is awesome. Connor, great show. You too. You too.

I like your bets. I do too. I do. Now, granted, you were boozing so hard, we don't know if your brain still works, but. There was one problem also we ran into this morning. What was that? Just right now, I don't know if they're currently on the site at the moment. For some of us, they are, some they aren't.

We'll figure it out. Well, you mean the bets that he gave out? Any of the. Hey, here's the bet of the day. And everybody's like, where is it? Yeah. Need the combine tap to come back. Okay.

Yeah, Draft Kings, I think tone might have cooked a little bit, got a little action on something, and then all of a sudden it disappears. Checking right now just to see. Yeah, see if they brought it back. Truck boys, good work today, boys. They have you. Bruce, way not to just cover up Gumpy's face. Yeah.

Yeah, got rid of the computer stand. It's right here. Hey, Foxy, full chaos I heard, you know, in my ear from the truck as the show started. Yeah, six minutes before we go live. Not other graphics were. Terodeck just crashed. We still go live, but not on TikTok or X. It's like, okay?

Do we have anything? Yeah, a lot of chaos back here in the first hour. It's not good when, you know, you're crammed in this corner, and then you got someone here working with all this stuff, and then you got people in that room trying to fix stuff, people in that room trying to fix stuff. But, hey, that's technology, baby. Good battle.

And it is technology. And we like to say to barcoding team back there. And Nick, I think, was in the middle of it as well. And Zee, baby. It's like, hey, good work, boys. They did. They figured it all out. very well.

You know, who's fault it was. You wouldn't have noticed that we had tech issues, I hope. No, definitely. Those graphics at the beginning of the show were ass. And they were screenshotsed from previous shows. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. Barcode and Nick were back there, like, just trying to figure out a way to do it.

Screenshoting previous one. Yeah. Unbelievable. I would like to say, in the truck, from the chaos that I was hearing, while I'm speaking, about what's going on in the truck in one ear here. This is kind of how this whole thing works. fourth wall here. So my right ear, obviously, I could talk to boys, I could talk to truck, I can talk to Scott, I can talk to everybody. I got this button up here. My right ear, though,

is the thing that everybody communicates back through. And, you know, sometimes I'm not acting like this is abnormal. While I'm talking, this communication is happening. So it's like, you know, my voice is very loud and they got other people's voices in here. And then there's like, we have no graphics. We have graphics. Wait, we don't have graphics while I'm talking. And it's like, wow, this is awesome what's happening back there. And I want to let you boys though, just like Bailey McComers did this morning, way to handle adversity back there. Way to handle the pressure and way to make magic happen. I'm very proud of you all.

And shout to barcoding team for making that happen. Honestly, let's hit a millie. Good work, boys. Now, let's not fucking have it happen again. Yeah, we already got two computers ordered, a good computer, and a backup computer if good computer goes out. So problem solved until it's not. Technology is the greatest thing on Earth and then also the worst.

Yeah, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. This is literally just what happens. And I would say this, it's better to have no graphics. live from the combine, then have a bunch of graphics and not be live from the combine. We're incredibly thankful to be here. We'll see you tomorrow. Be your friend, tell the friend something nice.

It might change their life. We're interested in together. AJ, anything to say to the people here? I hope all the boys have a great workout this afternoon. Hell yeah. Just the Ohio State guys? Them as well as everybody else. And Michigan?

Whoa. Sure. They don't have any guys here. Once certain pros, they're going to be teammates. You're the man. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow.

One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.