The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 151 - Steve-0, Steve Smith Sr., & No Other Steve's, But A Damn Good Time

Episode Date: January 9, 2020

On today’s show, Pat and the boys break down the cryptic Instagram post that Tom Brady put up yesterday thanking the fans in New England for all of their support over the last decade. The guys decide whether or not this means that the dynasty is over and that Brady is out of New England and dive into a couple of Brady’s options moving forward that are being reported including potentially landing in powder blue to become the face of the Chargers in LA, pairing with Jon Gruden in Las Vegas for the Raiders with Derek Carr potentially on his way out, or perhaps coming to Indianapolis for a young team with a great line and formidable defense. Also joining the show is 5x Pro Bowler, 3x All-Pro, Carolina Panthers Hall of Honor member, future Hall of Famer and current NFL Network analyst, Steve Smith Sr. He explains why he decided to leave social media, gives his thoughts on Matt Rhule being hired by the Panthers and whether or not he thinks Cam Newton will be apart of his plans moving forward, his thoughts on playing for John Harbaugh in Baltimore and if his hiring up there opened the door for a guy like Joe Judge in New York, as they are both experienced with coaching special teams units. Steve also dives into this weekend’s divisional round matchups in the NFL and explains what he thinks the keys will be and some other interesting nuggets to look into (1:48-19:01). To close out the show, the guys welcome standup comedian, stuntman, and Jackass icon, Steve-O into the studio. They discuss his career and all the different moments that have led him to where he’s at now, including enrolling in clown college, some of the craziest stunts he’s done throughout his career, what his standup shows are like, and he gives some exclusive, never before heard news about the new Jackass movie. Steve-O also opens up about his sobriety, and reflects on what his undoubtedly be a crazy life in an incredibly entertaining and honest conversation (52:57-1:13:00). Today’s episode is good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Speaking of, let's enjoy these conversations. Joining us now is a man that is on NFL Network. Not only was he on Thursday nights, you can find him on NFL AM on the weekends at 9 AM on NFL Network. He was with the Panthers.

He was with the Ravens. He's an absolute legend. Wide receiver, ice-up son, Steve Smith Sr. Steve. Hey, what's going on, Pat? How you doing? I'm okay. I can't thank you enough for joining us.

I love every time you're on television. I think every time you speak, greatness comes from it, and with a little edge, which I love. I appreciate it. Some people on social media don't think so. Social media. Go ahead, did you quit? Social media. Go ahead.

Did you quit Twitter? We were trying to look for your Twitter. We couldn't find it. Did you quit? Don't let them. Why? Here's why. So here's the crux of it.

My daughter, so I got four kids. Well, actually, I have two kids kids two borderline young adults okay and my daughter who's 18 my little princess she we were on vacation and she was uh scrolling through her phone and we're like hey you're about to eat so you know pay attention put your phone down and she's like no dad you got to understand i'm reading this and she goes off uh she's my daughter so she goes off on the tangent very shocker i know and she's talking about how the turkey legs at disney are really ostrich legs i'm like bj and my daughter's name is uh bailey jordan but she she we call her BJ.

She goes, I said, really? She goes, Dad, I'm serious. I said, where did you read that? It's on Twitter. I said, all right, 100 bucks. It's not real. So we've been going to Disney for a long time. We do the tours.

So we text our tour guide that we've been working with for 15 years. And she bet good. we shake on it then i say hit the link that that's on twitter she hits it she loses a hundred bucks now she's looking at me and looking at my wife like well you knew it was fake because it was like something dot net that was the address and i said you can't believe everything on social media well you knew that and so my wife's like you're not gonna make her pay you are you i said yeah i am and she's like well i don't have a hundred bucks i said what technology i know you got venmo venmo me my money and so she Venmo me the hundred bucks and got mad my wife gave me the mom look you better not take that money from your daughter blah you

know all that stuff I said alright cool I looked at I said alright I'll pay you back I gave her half and the reason why is I paid her half of her money back because I had to make sure she understood you can't believe everything on social media right and so she she had to pay me 50 bucks because she got got right and I got her so she's a gator community one percenter I'm not gay community one percenter. I provide that for my kids now. But every so often, you got to get a naive rich kid. So you deleted your Twitter because of that?

No, but basically I deleted it just because there's so many opinions. There's so many couch potato Thursday night football coaches. You got doctors now on Twitter talking about when a guy gets injured, what the recovery time is. And you find yourself in between segments or after the show, you're looking at what are they saying. They don't deposit that direct deposit they just comment so now it's like i just do my job whether people like it or comment it doesn't matter steve the direct deposit doesn't go well twitter uh you know rick at whatever twitter handle doesn't like you, so we're not paying you this month. Steve, Steve, Steve,

you can't let Rick at Boner Garage beat you. You can't let that happen. He hasn't beat me, but here's the other part. Now people, I like the privacy. I've started to kind of really get back into owning my privacy, and so I enjoy people don't know where I'm at. People don't know where I'm vacationing. People don't know if I will be at the press conference today

when the Panthers talk about the new coach because you're not hearing it from me. I enjoy a little bit of privacy, and it's actually been pretty refreshing. Okay. Well, I respect that. You earned the privacy. You've earned the great coaching and teaching and parenting moment there with BJ.

I love that. Let's talk about some ideas that we don't get to see from you on the Internet. Matt Rule was just hired for the Carolina Panthers. Whether you're going to be at the press conference or not, he got seven years, 60. Sixty-two. Sixty. That's big money now but in my eyes this is a guy who's going to build this program because tepper told him hey you got this for the long haul i found my coach noel is what he said from the steelers organization is cam newton going to be

a part of those plans you think or is he going to rebuild start from nothing with christian mccaffrey a couple of the pieces and kind of build it his way? Do you think Cam Newton is there next year? Well, when you get seven years, $62 million, you're already the owner and your contract and your position says we're building in our way. Nobody's left over. The training staff, gone. Strength coach, gone.

No one is really left over from that old regime with Ron Rivera. They've all moved over with Ron up in Washington. So you have a guy that's establishing. He gets to establish his personality, his business acumen, his coaching style, his assistance, his training staff, the way he wants to do conditioning, strength. So all of that is being implemented by him. Is Cam Newton a part of this team moving forward? That's the elephant in the room. Here's the real answer. That's the elephant in the room. Here's the real answer.

At some point, he will be, and at some point, he will not be because he's not a spring chicken. Cam is older. I believe he's going to his ninth or tenth year. So at some point, Cam Newton will no longer be the quarterback for the Carolina Panthers over the next seven years just because if you look at what is going on how Cam plays what his body has went through he may not want to play into his 40s like a Tom Brady so we don't really know but I know there's there is going to be a lot of dialogue with the new head coach

because he has to dialogue with dialogue with all the his current players because he has to dialogue with all his current players that he has inherited, and he has to have those decisions. And I've been there, and I've met with new management. Sometimes new management doesn't like you, and you don't like new management. That's business. That's what happens. And so we don't know what's going to transpire in those meetings but based off what happens moving forward we don't know it was either a good meeting or it didn't go as well as we all hoped and so it's you know

it's going to be up to the powers that be and also how that, you know, first impression, this dating part goes. You know, before they get to third base, which is on the field, you know, how does first and second base go? We don't know. I think the interesting thing that people don't think about a lot because of the video games, because of fantasy, is these are humans that have to interact with each other. Matt Ruhle and Cam Newton are going to have to chat.

Another thing that plays into this, though, and you know this about the business, if they let Cam Newton go, that saves them $19 million on the cap space. That is something I would assume that Matt Ruhle has in the back of his mind, assume that Tepper has in the back of his mind. If it isn't a perfect

meeting, a perfect conversation going forward, they could probably say, hey, we could use that $19 million to build up around other places. I would like to see Cam Newton have to prove himself again to another staff because I think Cam Newton's the type of guy, if he's spiked or has a little chip on his shoulder, can go out and dominate a new staff, a new organization, could be the thing that gets him back into the game. It's good for everybody when Cam Newton's dominating.

There's nobody like him. Let's move forward. You played for Coach Harbaugh in Baltimore. You were a spark for the Baltimore Ravens when you signed there there Harbaugh was the first special teams coach that was really given a position of head coach in a long long time how do you think the Harbaugh the way Harbaugh has handled Baltimore impacted Joe Judge's hire with the New York Giants being a special teams coordinator that's funny you asked me that when I saw that There's a lot of things that went in my head analytically in watching film. Joe Judd was the special teams coordinator, which they really have.

Matthew Slater was remarkable, and they've had excellent special teams. However, one of the things, if I look at it as his resume, if he was a wide receivers coach other than element hell you ain't done nothing since then so if your coaching evaluation is based off these two jobs that you have which is special teams excellent wide receivers average or below average i'm looking at nikhil harry's first round draft pick y'all didn't he wasn't an impact player uh brandon hogan he disappeared last year during the playoffs. That's why they moved on from him, right?

There's a number of wide receivers that they've had over the years that they have tried to home-grown that hasn't grown, right? And so, you know, they've got these, like a Nikhil Harry, these kind of guys that have baby roots. They plant them. And yet what have they gotten? Dwarf plants. They haven't gotten full grown fruit that the fruit from them has not bared. The other part that's really interesting, because I know this, the powers that be in New York,

I think is a very interesting hire because you have a young guy with inexperience as coaching. So what does that leave a general manager who likes to have, who likes to call the shots, Dave Gevlin? It gives you another opportunity to direct it and call the shots because if you get a guy like a Josh McDaniels who wants to be in charge of everything, Dave Gevlin, he'sman, he doesn't like to be in the passenger seat or in the backseat. He likes to drive the truck. Now, that's what I saw in that hire. To say that Joe Judd can be as good or better or the same with Coach Harbaugh, well, of course everybody's going to say that.

But, hell, those same people didn't like the hire with Coach Harbaugh, well, of course everybody's going to say that, but hell, those same people didn't like the hire with Coach Harbaugh when scratching their heads. So I'm in kind of the wait-and-see mode. Here's the part I hope we don't see. Hope we don't see is what we've seen as a special teams coach and wide receiver coach, which is when we go to see a movie as the trailer, all the good parts of the movie, and then when we get out on the field, it's the trailer. All the good parts of the movie. And then when we get out on the field, we realize, or get in the movie,

realize the best parts were already played in the trailer, and it was a waste. So I'm interested to see, is the trailer what we've seen with him, with a little bit of Edelman, special teams, has he peaked? Because you got Daniel Jones, you got a lot of moving parts in New York. And New York is a city that expects results tomorrow. They expect their results January 2nd. It's the 8th. I'm really trying to watch it because the Jets, Jets and Giants fans,

don't have patience and they're not waiting to see what if they want results immediately. Especially with this hire where everybody says that they have no clue who he is. We're talking to Steve Smith Sr. right now, who played for Coach Harbaugh at the Baltimore Ravens, who have a massive weekend ahead against the Tennessee Titans. How do you feel the division round is going to go, Mr. Steve Smith? Now, you've got two heavyweights swinging at each other in that Titans-Ravens game. I guess the weather is supposed to be despicable over there in Baltimore,

which plays in the hands of both teams. I'm excited to see how that goes. Chiefs-Texans, I think the Chiefs might win by 50, but I guess Deshaun Watson is a magic man. Maybe he does something. And in the NFC side, Green Bay, can they continue to win ugly, especially at home against Russell Wilson, who pulls things out of his cliche positive ass all the time?

And then the Niners Vikings can have Vikings defense show up. What do you think is going to be the big storyline at the divisional round on Monday when we get on the other side of it? That it'll be a Guinness Book of Record for the shortest game between the Tennessee Titans and the Baltimore Titans. Because it's going to be sloppy weather, so they're all going to run the ball. Here's another underlining storyline that a lot of people don't know. The defense coordinator for the Tennessee Titans is Dean Pease. The defensive coordinator is Wink Martindale. Dean Pease was in Baltimore.

Wink Martindale was the linebacker's coach. Wink is now the defensive coordinator. However, Wink knows the behavior, the mantra, the thought process of a Dean Pease because he worked so closely with him all these years. Dean Pease knows a Wink Martindale as a linebacker's coach. He doesn't necessarily know his behaviors, his over or under reaction, or his calmness as a defensive coordinator. So what I really love about all of these games is last week we saw a lot of checkers this week is gonna be chess then you have kyle shanahan who was raised with you know raised by his dad in denver defense offensive coordinator at one point and the backup quarterback for john elway was gary kubiak

offense coordinator slash quarterback coach call a control coach in Houston for Gary Kubiak Kyle Shanahan you have the teacher now the student going against each other they are very similar so what I believe you're going to see by both teams is a lot of makeshift and a lot of blitzing looking but all those dudes are going to do is line up at the line of scrimmage look like they're going to blitz but what are they going to be doing here's the word i love using they're going to be ear hustling because they use the same words they use the same verbiage they use everything is the same they know each other what it is is you got two guys looking in a mirror at each other they may change up some words same offense same blocking scheme

same personnel same mo and same thing that all of them like to do run the ball so i this weekend is gonna be a get get all your drinks get all your fatty foods and your snack foods and just sit on the couch tell your wife your girlfriend tell your kids go do whatever you want here's the credit card i am watching football all weekend long ah you're damn right and uh steve i love watching you on tv i appreciate you i appreciate you talking to football i wish you would get back to Twitter so at Boner Garage could get a little take from you. But other than that. Hey, guess what? Yeah.

Hey, now, you know, I love taking shots, and you're a guy that loves giving them back. I went and looked when you were with the Colts and how we played when I was playing. I mean, you were playing. Unfortunately, you punted the ball to Imani Edwards, so I wasn't able to be back there. So your range and your average stayed up because a real pro bowler was not back there to bust open your average. I looked it up.

I was like, dang, nope, didn't play him then. I wasn it up. I was like, dang. Nope. Didn't play him then. Nope. I wasn't on the field. I'm happy you didn't because you ran angry and I wouldn't want to have to see that. Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Smith Sr. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate it. You do a great job, bro.

I love, I've been listening to you as a bleacher. Just all the stuff you're doing, your transition has been remarkable. I appreciate that. You too, Steve. I can't wait to get you back on Twitter because you're built for that place. I want to let you know that. I appreciate it, but it won't happen.

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the picture. His Tom Brady on his Instagram. By the way, Tom Brady, greatest of all time, also incredible on social media. I know he has a social media team that does his editing and his posting. I don't care about any of that. The fact that he has embraced and dominated social media is not only good for the Tom Brady brand, but good for us folks that live on the internet. Because you've got those old whites that are like,

you know, if you didn't spend time focusing on social media, you'd probably be better at what you do. Well, there's the greatest of all time who dominates social media. Tom Brady this morning just posted, I just wanted to say to all of our fans, thank you, exclamation point. After a few days of reflection,

I am so grateful and humbled by the unconditional support you have shown me the past two decades not this last season this wasn't a thank you for this last season and and all that the past two decades a couple days of reflection i've been looking back on the last 20 years and doing i just would like to say thanks for the unconditional support you have shown me. Running out of that tunnel every week, well, it wasn't a home game every week,

but running out of that tunnel every week is a feeling that is hard to explain. I wish every season ended in a win, but that's not the nature of sports, parenthesis, or life. Nobody plays to lose, but the reward for working hard is just that, the work.

I've been blessed to find a career I love, teammates who go to battle with me, an organization that believes in me. Now, granted, he didn't say believed in me, right? So he says believes in me, which does lead to the fact that maybe he's still leaving the door, and fans who have been behind us every step of the way. Every one of us that works at Gillette Stadium strive to do their best, spent themselves at a worthy cause, and prepared to fail while daring greatly. Parenthesis,

H slash T. What's that? Hat tip. Hat tip to Teddy Roosevelt, the guy who created the teddy bear. And for that, we've been rewarded

with something that the scoreboard won't show, the satisfaction of knowing we gave everything to each other in the pursuit of a common goal.

That is what team is all about. In both life and football, failure is inevitable. You don't always win. You can, however, learn from that failure, pick yourself up with great enthusiasm, and place yourself in the arena again. And that's right where you will find me, because I know I still have more to prove. Now, that first couple sentences there made me believe that Tom Brady is setting up this leverage for something that no NFL player has ever had before the amount of leverage that Tom Brady has right now not only with the Patriots but with the entire NFL outside of like five teams is remarkable now

the question was will he retire they asked at his press conference he said that's unlikely hopefully unlikely there at the last sentence where he says you'll find me in the arena again Tom Brady is nowhere near retirement let's assume that the TB12 treatment that he's been on for the last couple years is going to keep him in the NFL for maybe another 10 years honestly I have no idea how he does Vinatieri's been doing a TB12 treatment for like the last 10 years that guy everybody thinks he's done I'm not 100% certain he's done either. I don't know what they do with their muscles, the pliability, whatever it is, the eating of avocado ice cream, the weird chocolate commercials, all that stuff. Somehow he has found a way to keep his body at a level as his knowledge continues to rise. So what happens is your body's at its prime

when your mind is not at its prime yet. Then as you continue to go, normally your body decreases and your mind and wisdom continues to grow. He and others who are older have found a way to keep their body to hang on while their knowledge continues to grow. That is why he's the greatest of all time. That is why he has this ability to win even when he doesn't have players around him that he should win with. Aside from this past year tom brady has been able to do a lot with not a lot now granted rob gronkowski greatest tight end of all time whenever he was playing julian edelman was a weapon that lacrosse player was good for him for a while uh you west walker was good all that but right randy mouse i mean they have had weapons up there but the only constant was tom brady was able to figure things

out with josh mcdaniel's and go on and win but if you read that as a common sense individual he is either setting himself up for something with New England or he is definitely out the damn door and for New England fans you see Joe Judge go to the Giants Joe Judge and his special teams have been a massive part of victories up there for the Patriots they've been winning with special teams in defense all year. He's gone. Kyle Van Noy, he's gone. Tom Brady's now posting as if he's gone. The dynasty is officially dead. And where is Tom Brady heading is the question. We've been saying since October 24th that the Los Angeles Chargers would be a good spot for him. Not only because it's Los Angeles and all that, but they need a face of a franchise that can sell some tickets. Another franchise that would need to sell some tickets because

they're going to a new home the las vegas raiders john gruden who makes 10 million dollars a year i just learned but they need a face of a franchise a quarterback going into john gruden's system who's a veteran quarterback would be something that they could enjoy now the indianapolis colts have been the name that has been the hot conversation like the last three days. Tony Dungy said it yesterday on the Rich Eisen show that it would be the perfect spot for him. Many calling Cowherd said it would be a great spot for him. ESPN was talking about it. Everybody says that Tom Brady to the Colts would be the perfect fit because it's a young team. It has a great defense. Now they're going to have to draft a weapon or two for him,

or he's going to fall into the same problem he had this past year with New England. But I guess he and Frank Reich have a good relationship. I'm not exactly sure how that goes. This is something I don't see happening for a couple reasons. Peyton Manning played here. Tom Brady, although Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are good friends, were some of the biggest rivals in the history of the NFL. Now, it was a friendly rivalry.

They just played golf in Jim Nance's backyard. That's on ESPN+. You can watch that. Very interesting that that's what they chose to do. I didn't understand it, but I enjoy the fact that they did it. I got a chance to see Jim Nance's backyard, listen to those two play golf in full suits. It was very interesting, but good conversation.

I just don't see him going to a place where Peyton Manning played. So you take Denver Broncos off the table, you take the Colts off the table, but what everybody else is saying, Colts are a young team. They have a lot of money in the salary cap. You get another weapon or two, Tom Brady would like it. Indianapolis, great city to grow a family in. Tom and Giselle, the TB12 treatment would do well here. The thing that isn't being talked about is Tom Brady is hated in this city.

Hated. Hated. Not respected for how good he is like you should tom brady is despised here because indianapolis was not a football town before peyton manning got here this was a basketball town this was an indianapolis 500 town the colts were kind of just a thing that happened whenever the owner took the Mayflowers and drove them to Indianapolis in the middle of the night. There wasn't a lot of success here with the Colts. And to be honest, the Pacers did have success. The Indianapolis 500 brought 300,000, 400,000 people to the city every single year. So the Colts were a nothing team, basically, in Indianapolis

until Peyton Manning got here. Peyton Manning flipped this city into a football town. They fell in love with the Indianapolis Colts were a nothing team, basically, in Indianapolis until Peyton Manning got here. Peyton Manning flipped this city into a football town. They fell in love with the Indianapolis Colts. The state of Indiana fell in love with football and NFL football because of Peyton Manning. In the only real disappointing times that they had, now Phillip Rivers was a couple of them, but most of the disappointments that these Colts fans had in their first real run of fanhood was because of that handsome face in New England. He was the face of their disappointment for a long time.

So to say that the Colts fans would be like, yeah, bring Tom Brady in here. That is not how it goes at all. Tom Brady, and as sad as this sounds for being the greatest of all time, I think for a lot of people in Indiana, and this does not sound like it would be of any intelligence at all. You just got to remember, when people get their hearts broken from a certain person, it's hard to get over. I don't think Tom Brady, his first couple months in Indianapolis, would be like a celebration. I don't think there's a parade if he comes here. I don't think there's people picketing like, oh, please come to Indianapolis.

Instead, I think it's the complete opposite. They're like, go anywhere but here. God, we don't even care if you stay in New England. Just don't go here. But that all changes as soon as he throws the touchdown that all changes as soon as he embraces the city that all changes as soon as tom brady does what tom brady normally does and that's win at all costs that's literally what he does and as soon as you win a couple games the city will be behind you just like they were behind the colts and peyton manning whenever they want a little bit but I don't know if this city and most cities are begging for Tom Brady to come but I do know that

the franchises behind closed doors are all begging for Tom Brady to come when these when these rumors come out for the Colts and stuff like that I like to read the comments underneath to get Paul to the nation we don't need him at the coach a lot of uh rather a lot of I'd rather go 0 and 16 than have Tom Brady as our quarterback that By the way, whenever your only disappointment in your fanhood for a sport, right? Let's say, like for the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's like eight generations of fans. Green Bay Packers, like seven generations, eight generations of fans. You're talking about father was a fan, my grandpa was a fan, blah, blah, blah. For the Colts, it isn't like that.

A lot of people are first- fans second generation fans because the team only came in 86 or whatever 84 87 somewhere in there so you only got first generation fans so whenever your first disappointment really is from a person that is directly linked to the team that pissed you off the most I mean it's gonna be hard to get over that for a lot of Colts fans, but as soon as he throws a touchdown, as soon as they rattle off a couple games and afterwards he goes, we're just getting to work here. We're moving forward with his handsome face, and he'll probably donate another hospital and all that stuff.

As soon as that happens, it's good. But the thought to Colts fans that Tom Brady could potentially be the quarterback here is not one where they're like, yeah! They're like, get him the hell out of India. Get no way. Don't. Hey, it's a flyover state for you, pal. Just keep that jet going over to Los Angeles or Las Vegas. We don't want you here, which is very interesting because Tom Brady is going to have a new home. Where's it going to be? We do not know. He's nowhere near retirement. That Instagram post this morning says that that and that's why social media is absolutely beautiful because there's no middleman there's nothing like that tom brady's message right there was calculated tom message tom brady's message

right there was cerebral and tom brady's message right there set him up for the best leverage possibly in the history of an nfl player it's interesting because he just talked about how like he's not nostalgic he doesn't and that's exactly what that post was or at least like the first two paragraphs it's like just thinking about everything he that's exactly what he was doing was being nostalgic he's laying on 10 million dollars of cash you know the last two days with his head up over his thing avocado ice cream being brought into him by giselle his kids jumping on him and kissing him on the mouth and he's sitting there you know what? We did good the last 20 years for these people.

These New England people. We did good for them. And they've been nice to me. You know, when that whole BS deflate gate thing happened. Can I get some more avocado ice cream? When that whole BS deflate gate thing happened, they were on my side. They didn't let me fall. I appreciate them for that. Time to move on. I think that is potentially what happened. They were on my side. They didn't let me fall. I appreciate them for that.

Time to move on. I think that is potentially what happened. Every word in there was calculated. Every single one of those words. Every single thing was cerebral there because he doesn't want to close the door on the Patriots because you don't know what the Patriots are going to offer him. What if he gets a say in roster control? Be huge. He should. What if he gets a say, which I don't think any player

ever has. I mean, Peyton Manning could cut somebody if he wanted to. Peyton Manning could pick somebody up if he wanted to. If you're in with Peyton Manning on the offensive side of the ball and he trusted you, you would have a job on the team. Just like if he didn't trust you and didn't like you, you would not have a spot on the team. What if that is what he's looking for? Like, all right, I want a part of roster control,

at least on the offensive side. I would like to be a part of that. That's probably what he's setting himself up for. But is Bill Belichick going to let that happen? Is Bill Belichick going to let Tom Brady get roster control on the offensive side? Is Tom Brady going to have a chance to, you know, have a say in who gets what whenever he's talking about his offense that had looked bad this last year? That'll be interesting because everything he's saying,

he's getting the fans on his side for it. Because in a PR case, if you win the mob, you win and in this case Tom Brady's gonna have to I don't think he has to win him over anymore right now granted Boston Connor here has been saying well as long as we have Bill Belichick I don't care so this feels as if this is Tom trying to win over the Patriots fans to be like hey I'm about to go ask for something that not a lot of players have had you're the with me or not and if I don't get it i'm gone bill doesn't seem like the type of guy to give up control no yeah but if he loses mcdaniel's hold on though just like jerry jones jerry jones spent all of the cash that he made from whatever oil or whatever it was on the dallas cowboys built them up to be the most

lucrative franchise in all of sport and now everybody's like well he he has he he's he's too egotistical to give up his control it's like it'd be hard to give up control if I was the sole reason why something went from to wow just like Bill Belichick Bill Belichick has built this team for the last two decades to be the best dynasty in the history of sport. It'll be hard for somebody to look him in the eye and be like, hey, you just don't got it anymore, pal. You've got to give up control. It'd be very hard as a human with an ego

and with pride to say, you know what? You're right. I probably have lost it. We're seeing it with Jerry. We're going to probably see it with Belichick. And you can't blame him for it, especially when you've had the amount of success that you've had. If I was Bill, I'd be like, oh, you think it's me

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their next coach by Saturday. I guess they've interviewed a bunch of people. They're interviewing McDaniels soon. They're doing all of this stuff. And Greenberg this morning said, if you believe in Baker Mayfield long-term, a good idea would be to have him sit behind Tom Brady to learn from Tom Brady

and also have Tom have those weapons. OBJ, Jarvis Landry, the big tight end that got punished by catching jugs machines whenever Hugh Jackson was there. They got two good running backs. An offensive line that is definitely unsettled, but you can figure that out in the draft and things of that nature. A defense that not only has a maniac Myles Garrett coming back, but a lot of

weapons on that side of the ball tom brady being their quarterback willing them to win showing a great sign of leadership telling them how to work how to show up every day in prep josh mcdaniel's bringing in a mentality that he took to denver was able to win a playoff game with tim tebow not tim tebow's bad but that particular defense was good. Could McDaniels and Tom Brady flip the entire city of Cleveland in the dog pound right on their head? By the way, Indianapolis would not

love Tom Brady being their quarterback before Tom Brady plays a game. Cleveland would love Tom Brady being their quarterback before Tom Brady played a game. I don't know how much money they have. I assume they have to pay all these people. I don't think they have enough. No, they have money. Oh, they have cash?

So maybe, hey, what if Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson are in the same division next year battling two times? I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but boy, that sounds like something if you're a talk show host about sports would love. Odell was already gifting Tom Brady things after after the game tom brady and mcdaniels now would be the time to get out because it feels like really the train's coming off the tracks connor i don't think so joe judge left brute what are you gonna do that hurts a lot all these idiots

on tv who's joe judge it's like did you literally on those sports talk shows, the highlights that were shown each week was of the Patriots special teams. Like who's that? Belichick did that. A bunch of dummies. I think we talked about this. I don't know if we talk about it on air or off air. Derek Carr going to Tampa with Bruce Arians left, which in that Buccaneers team and getting the Raiders away from him, which would obviously give the Raiders some cap space. Moving in Tom Brady to be John Gruden's weapon over there

is something that could possibly happen. And this is what Tom Brady has set up, by the way. This is how Tom Brady has played this perfectly. Tom Brady has us. I feel like I know a lot about the NFL. I honestly do. I feel like I know a lot about the NFL, the business side of it. I've been franchise tagged before.

I've seen friends of mine get cut for no reason. Friends of mine get paid for no reason. I've seen it all happen. Nobody has a clue what's going to happen with Tom Brady. Nobody. He has set this thing up perfectly. Tom Brady maybe wanting to prove himself outside the Belichick system is exactly why we

can't have him here in Indianapolis. Because we all hear say if peyton manning would have been in his shoes he would have eight superbowls and if he comes here and wins the superbowl straight off a season where we don't make the playoffs it's all dead yeah i know that'd be tough and i i think tom brady doesn't come to the colts because peyton manning was here although they're best friends like not best friends but they're good friends and i i've gotten a chance to see them interact behind the curtain, behind the curtain a little bit. Like whenever we went and played up there and seeing them like talk to each other.

Like the first time I saw them interact with each other, I was like, oh, wait a minute. Wait, did you guys just hug? I just put my headphones on and just walked by. Everything I thought was a lie these guys like each other I thought you hated each other I'm not going to tell anybody you guys liked each other but now that it's come out a little bit more

you can respect the fact that Peyton loves the NFL loves the game of football so he has appreciated what Tom Brady has done as opposed to everybody trying to build up them hating each other I think they had a great appreciation for each other because they both had to go through the same things but I don't know if Tom Brady would want to come to Peyton Manning's town where there's a statue of him outside and and kind of re-establish himself I would assume it's going to be somewhere else if you know Chargers Raiders Browns with Josh McDaniels definitely not in the

indie I don't think but I see also hey they're pushing that narrative very hard out there. Big time. They're pushing that narrative very hard because this is a young team. Chris Ballard has a lot of money to play with. You get one more weapon on that offensive side of the ball, could be a very, very threatening team. I mean, they've got to figure out some other things,

but they've got a lot of money. They've got a good structure, a good culture set up, and Chris Ballard is a smooth talker. Hey, Tom, you want to talk about who's on the team, who's not on the team? We can have that conversation. I mean, whatever you would like to do. We got a lot of money, too. You want to bring Strzok up there with your avocado ice cream?

We can send that. I'm excited for it. I also see an issue with the Chargers because Tom, he even said it there. He loves running out of the tunnel, and then he loves running to the fans and saying let's go with the chargers there are no fans to run to and say let's go like yeah but until he goes there i don't want to judge los angeles people okay i don't i don't want to judge los angeles people but i will los angeles people was probably a group of people a tribe of humans but a they're all relocated right everybody's people from their hometown that want to go make it in the world of modeling or

acting all go to LA going to chase the dream everybody's happy for him when they go to everybody's like oh she's going off to LA oh he's going off to LA oh he's a comedian where's he going oh he's going to LA oh he's going to do LA. Oh, he's a comedian. Where's he going? Oh, he's going to LA. Oh, he's going to do so well. There's 7 million comedians out there, 7 million actors and actresses. There's all these people out there. But all these people that go out there, I think they do have a common trait that they enjoy happiness. What brings you happiness? Winning. What has brought a lot of people a lot of wins and a lot of happiness? The Patriots. I would assume Los Angeles has a lot of Patriots fans already. If Tom Brady, the face of that team in that franchise, in that dynasty, was to move to Los Angeles,

especially after Rams have had a down year, I would assume Chargers 12 jerseys would be selling and flying off of the racks. The Chargers would become the Los Angeles team. I think that would happen immediately overnight. I think the Spanos family knows that as well, and think the NFL understands that as well there was always these rumors and murmurs that were never legitimized so I can't say like with a matter of fact because it's not that way but when Peyton got cut from the Colts there was a lot of things first of all he was

just coming off a spinal fusion uh the Colts didn't know if he was able to grip a football ever again they had no idea what was going to happen and they owed him like 30 million dollars or something so ursa was literally put in a terrible position and andrew luck was sitting there so there was a lot of things at play and i think it was a lockout i think it was a lockout as well so he couldn't even talk to payton so there was a lot of things that so ursa had to cut payton manning right he cuts payton manning payton manning's a free agent for the first time in a long time with his choosing. There was rumors that the Titans were giving him a percentage of the team. There was all these rumors.

And then there was always these murmurs that the NFL wanted Peyton to go to the Rams because they were going to Los Angeles and they wanted Peyton Manning, the face of the NFL at the time, to be the quarterback of the new team in Los Angeles because they could bring a fan base, they could bring some wins, and really launch this team in Los Angeles because they could bring a fan base, they could bring some wins, and really launch this team in Los Angeles where everybody has always expected a team to go back to, but they finally go back with a guy. I would assume those same murmurs are happening that the NFL would want Tom Brady to go to the Chargers because the NFL and everybody saw that the Chargers couldn't even sell out an MLS stadium this year. I mean, Zlatan Ibrahimović was selling out that stadium

more than the Chargers were in America in the NFL. That is not something the NFL wants. They're going to have to do something with that Chargers franchise if they want to turn it around both from a public standpoint and a team standpoint. And I think having the greatest of all time there is obviously a way to do that. But boy, they're going to have to hand the Brinks truck to him too.

I have to because three times a year in that small stadium, the Packers, the Steelers, and the Raiders, 98% of the fans there. Now they're moving to, what is it, a whole 100,000? Something like that, yeah. You can't have 50,000 empty seats in a brand new stadium. You have to tarp it off so it doesn't get blacked out in the local. I mean, the Chargers are going to have to throw the entire franchise at tom brady i mean they are literally going to have to like just like the same conversations about getting percentages of the team and stuff

the roster they're going to have to throw him a lot to get them there because that's the only way i think the chargers franchise survives honestly unless they unless they draft like a diamond in the rough somehow like a tom brady who can somehow turn that team into a winning team on a consistent basis. I just don't know if that team – there's a lot of spite from the San Diego people about that Chargers team. There's a lot of spite and negative feelings about that Chargers team. They're going to have to get old Tom in there. Do you think if McDaniels leaves that Brady's definitely gone?

Or would that help his case to get say in the team? Do you think they're eating avocado ice cream together trying to figure it out? I hope so. I pray. There's a hell of a pitch right now that the Browns are going to offer McDaniels and Brady package deal,

have Baker sit behind Tom for a couple years, figure out football. He's going into his third year. I don't know if benching him in his third year is a good move, especially for the way Baker is. But I would assume the city of cleveland the dog pound would be red rocketing all over the place if tom brady was to come to the dog pound that's but all these things are possible all of these things are possible and it's all because tom brady set himself up to be

in this position 98 of the time we will be disappointed he's gonna be a patriot oh man but if he's a patriot then he has roster control he's gonna be disappointed. He's going to be a Patriot. Oh, man. But if he's a Patriot, then he has roster control. He's going to have to have, like, there's going to be a lot of things. There's no way he's just going to go back to the same thing. No, no, I agree. He's either going to get broken off from a contract. I don't think they're going to do that, New England. That's what I'm saying.

If you break him off, how can you afford to pay weapons? To get a guy, yeah. He's gone. He's gone. All signs point to him leaving. Literally, all signs point to him. If he doesn't get roster control or at least a piece of roster control

like Peyton had with all the teams he's been on, you think Bill Belichick's going to give up any of that power? I don't know. After 20 years of running something the same way, you think you're going to change it just over? No way. Tom Brady is probably not. I don't know, dude.

If you put any credence in those reports that Belichick wanted Jimmy G and wanted to move on from Tom a year or two ago, I don't think there's any way he gives up any control to Tom. Bless you. No. That's disgusting. We've got to get to a break.

What if he goes back to his childhood team and kicks Jimmy G out again? I don't think John Lynch would do that. Yeah, impossible. John Lynch seems like he's all in on Jimmy G. Yeah, they're in a pretty good spot right now. I just sneezed all over the floor. That happens. Gotta get a mop.

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And a man who is a legend no matter where he goes. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Steve-O. Atta boy! Steve-O, okay, you're in town. You got two shows tonight and tomorrow at the Helium Comedy Club. Right, it's actually two shows tonight and two shows tomorrow night.

It's stand-up comedy here in Indianapolis and also next week you're in Chicago, I believe? At the Chicago Improv in like a suburb of Chicago. Yeah, well, it's in the area. But yeah, it's going to be great, man. Okay, you've been doing stand-up now for how long? I'm in my 10th year of consistent touring. Okay, so what was the decision to go from being

this legend on television I'm 32 years old a lot of the guys in here around my same age we grew up in the jackass era I mean you in the boys were literally a part of our life very thankful for it by the way thanks for everything you do thank you man thanks for sacrificing your body as uh you know an attention whore i i appreciate that that's all i ever wanted you had our attention but what was the move to go be a stand-up comedy like you know what i have a lot of great stories that people want to hear it yeah the uh the first time i did it it was completely unintentional i had been invited to perform a stunt at a comedy club in August of 2006. And I agreed to do it, gave no thought whatsoever as to what I would do.

And here I showed up at this comedy club in Hollywood, and I walked in, and I was like, okay, so what am I going to do? And I just kind of observed what was happening, and I just thought if I tried stand-up comedy, that would be like the craziest, most terrifying stunt. And so I just decided, you know what? I'm going to get on that stage. I'm going to do stand-up.

That's my stunt. And waiting for my turn to get on stage, I had a little bit of time to think of a few things that might get a laugh saying and and i could not have been on stage for more than three minutes but the experience i had was that people were rooting for me they were excited to see me they wanted to have a good time i got a few laughs and uh you know i was just like dude i'm gonna do this you know and i scheduled my return before i left that night and um you know i had like I did it a few times and I bombed a few times

because when I came when I came back for the you know I scheduled my turn I came back I was all jazz I sat down I wrote like a little set I actually got some laughs and then I was okay I did did that and i and i had like a buddy film it i did that okay cool and so then i didn't come back to like work on the same material was my crucial error oh yeah new stuff i'm bored every time every time every time i get there and so i had a really good experience the second time i did it then the third time and by the way I was completely on drugs this whole time the third time I came back I was just like oh man I'm just good at this whatever I don't need to prepare and got on stage without having prepared material and and it was the worst

experience and then I had that happen again and so I I sort of went away from it and it was after I got sober that I actually dove into it and now it's been 10 years and you nailed it man like the way I approached stand-up from the start was just in the storytelling you know I've had such

like legitimately insane experiences and wild stories that like there's plenty of material but as i've done it over the last 10 years my worlds have converged where uh now it's fully multimedia the show i'm doing it's called the bucket list tour and uh like i just went after these stunts that i never particularly thought i was gonna, like really gnarly stuff. What is something that in Steve-O's mind would be like,

you know what, I don't think I would even do it. Because honestly, from watching you, I feel like you're one of the humans that we have in existence that would do anything. I'm glad you asked. Have you said no to something? Sure, but the saying no to something? sure but the saying no to stuff

is mostly like being duct taped to a mechanical bull like I was I figured that at a certain point you need to fall off that thing and if you're if you're taped to it you're going to get a spinal cord injury

so I generally decline things based on avoiding wheelchairs and coffins but uh but okay so um one of the things for the bucket list it's like i like to think of it as the crown jewel is uh skydiving of course over the course of my career has come up like many times and i just think like okay like any way that you take on skydiving it's just the same thing you're gonna pull the chute and like and and just doing it just seemed dumb to me so every time for like 20 years that anybody ever mentioned skydiving i said odd dude everybody does that like uh that's lame that's not a stunt and then i said if i and i'm like i think it was like 20 years ago i said if i ever go skydiving because the first time you

have to have a dude strapped to your back oh yeah i'm gonna be butt naked and furiously servicing myself with a dude on my back okay such that upon completion actually simultaneously as i pee white i'm falling out of an airplane and uh and and i never thought i was gonna do that for a lot of reasons you know like for a lot of they actually proved to be really challenging to find, not just to find the, actually finding the dude was easy, but the company that would sign up. We heard a lot of, this is a family business. We can't have that. And then I went on my social media and it was pretty simple from there.

But actually doing it logistically, there was nothing simple about it. It was an airplane full of dudes. And I was naked with a dude. So while the plane is because the planes that you skydive at, I've done one time. I'll never do it again. They're tiny little planes. And you almost want to get out of it because of how small it is. And it's uncomfortable in there.

So while the plane is fart boxing up to whatever, 12,000, 13,000 feet, you're just going to 15,000. You're going to town on yourself while you're going up there. Yeah. I had a little portable DVD player set up. What film? Oh man. I didn't even look at the title.

It turned out to be called like anal destruction. What's something like that. By the way, it was possible if you're landing, because you land on your butt right when another dude's on you and if you're completely naked,

did you guys land on your feet? I do recall that we ran out of it. We somewhat stayed standing the whole time. Congratulations. Guy gave me the funniest

double high five I've ever had. But yeah, and not a drop landed in the plane. It was a completely success in that regard. So skyjacking is one of them. There is,

and what else? The oldest idea that I have of all of them was based on a joke that I heard in seventh grade, which was, what is the definition of macho okay a man who jogs home from his own vasectomy and uh and i just i just never forgot that joke because i always wanted to be macho so i wrote an idea called the vasectomy Olympics.

It was pretty dope. I came out of the... This is your stand-up, by the way? You just tell the stories of them or you actually do these things? Well, the act is about these absurd stunts, where the ideas came from, like the implications on my relationship of going through with them yeah uh like it's so it's an act about these stunts and how like it sort of feels like a race against the clock because i'm in this terrible situation i'm steve-o in my 40s let's talk about that you are steve-o in your 40s i know it's a jam and hold on though in jackass 4 we had a big celebration whenever it came out that there was another jackass coming.

But the initial thought by all of us as people that were diehard jackass fans is you all are some old dudes now. The body might not be prepared for Jackass 4. Is that something you guys have thought? Have you shot it yet? And are you prepared for that? They brought on a few. Oh uh oh no don't say this is getting bad is this getting corporate that's what it sounds like no no no no no no i mean i mean i guess like hard to imagine the guys that that there's like a few you know a few younger dudes

that are in the mix oh they brought it to me oh no you guys getting replaced that's a good question ah i have whatever dude who cares i um i don't i don't know but have you shot it yet we're supposed to start shooting in in february and how does the brainstorming happen because i think when jackass maybe three or jackass two you guys showed how and it was it was a process that had never been uh shown before but it's like somebody drew up an idea and then that gets like yeah stick figure and it gets like emailed everybody's like oh yeah good idea is that the brainstorming process i mean there's no there's no uh formula there's no format like ideas come all different ways and they get i mean everybody comes up with ideas. I have drawn

stick figures myself, but there was never a stick figure for skyjacking. There was never a stick figure for this other one on my bucket list tour

where I rode a bicycle while having general anesthesia drugs administered through IV. How'd that last? Ah, that one was an ordeal, man. That was highly illegal. That one, yeah, there's nothing.

It was... Has the planning already happened for Jackass 4? Do you already know what you're going to do? Well, honestly, the contracts aren't even finished, at least in my case. So we'll figure it out. Also, wait, did they release that statement to put a little leverage on you?

Like, hey, we're going to do this without you to get you to sign a deal? I don't know one way or the other, but we'll figure it out. Hey, can't be without you. Can't do it without someone. I feel like, I just, I don't understand what the uh the it's been how long it's been it's been just about 10 years 10 years ago we were getting ready to shoot jackass 3d that came out in october of 2010 so now we're in 2020 10 years and uh like i've just been really active the whole time.

I think that I've worked pretty hard to... Establish yourself. To keep myself going. Hell yeah, your YouTube is a monster, by the way. Well, thanks, man. No problem. YouTube's good. I've done a lot of stuff. So, I don't know.

I'm not going to say they say it you know they need me more than I need the movie maybe I would by the way I agree

if Jackass 4 comes out and there's no Steve-O there's going to be quite a line of what the hell are we doing might as well rename it yeah exactly Jack

and whatever you put the ass in Jackass this is I've never said that publicly that you know and it's Jack. And whatever, dude. You put the ass in Jack's ass. I've never said that publicly. The announcement only just recently got made, so there you go. There's an exclusive thing.

Hey! We appreciate you doing that. But, dude, I don't want to not do it. I don't want to not do it. I don't want to not do it. I just need them to... Respect and appreciate. I'm not a fucking idiot or an asshole. Oh, can't say that. I'm sorry.

I mean, come on, Steve. We had to dump in 10 seconds. Let's wait. And we're back. You're right, Steve-O. Okay, so let's go. I will figure it out. I'm sure it's going to be great.

I got a lot of ideas. okay so i will figure it out i'm sure i'm sure it's gonna be great i got a lot of ideas and 100 whether uh it's for a movie or for a subsequent tour or even for youtube or any number of other projects that i have you know in development i'm gonna do every idea on my list and and uh i'm confident that my ideas are pretty strong listen you talk down about yourself for a long time about how you're an attention-seeking this and all that stuff. And I want to let you know, though, we appreciate it. There has to be humans like you in the world. And I think you started as a clown.

Is that accurate? I was a circus clown, yeah. And, you know, let me qualify the statement that I'm an attention whore. I don't even necessarily consider that talking down. Okay, good. statement that i'm an attention whore i don't even necessarily consider that talking down okay good because when you get right down to it in uh you know as commodities go in in in the world there's nothing more valuable than attention there's very little that you can sell as as commodity that's worth more than the attention of a large audience.

Agreed. Concur. So you started as a circus clown. Started as a circus clown. And I went to clown college because I wanted to further my goal of becoming a famous crazy stuntman. For which there was no precedent. Okay, so right now you're literally living your childhood dream of doing stunts and doing things

that nobody else would do. Yeah, 100%. I went to the University of Miami straight out of high school. I had found the video camera through skateboarding, recognized that I wasn't that great at skateboarding, and so I thought I would go to the University of Miami to become a creative advertising executive.

But I couldn't bring myself to go to class. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to just do gnarly, crazy things and videotape it. So I failed out of college. And I got kicked out of the dorms. And I was upping to leave just straight dropout entirely. And everybody was asking me well what are you gonna do now and I told them I'm gonna videotape crazy stunts and become a famous

stuntman with with a home video camera and everybody straight up felt sorry for me what year was that that was 1993 oh my god so ahead of your time though like right now that is everybody's like there's a lot of people that are like you know i'm gonna do i'm gonna do dumb stuff with a camera on the internet i'm gonna make money off it you were in 1993 saying that 1993 there was no such thing as the internet there was no such thing as email yet the only way that i was like seeking to get discovered was to plug vcrs together and hit like hit play on one and record on the other to uh you know edit my little videos and then duplicate them with these stacks of big video tapes and then i would physically walk over

to the post office and mail them to uh whoever i thought might watch you know it's like they and and be able to help me get somewhere and and i did not get anywhere. And I was... Dear Hugh Hefner. Right. I was homeless for three years, couch surfing. And ended up living with my sister, who found out about Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College, and that it was free to get into if you could get in.

I mean, it was highly exclusive, difficult to get into, but if you could get in, it was free to get into if you could get in it was very i mean it was highly exclusive uh difficult to get into but if you could get in it was free and uh you know my sister wanted me out of her house and and i uh i thought that that might like if i was a trained circus professional people might take me more seriously okay so you do that you become this superstar megastar now you're a stand-up comedian your youtube is massive steve-ocom, you sell hot sauce for buttholes and everything else. You're this conglomerate of an entrepreneurial. Whenever you look back on your career, what is the one stunt that you go, you know what, that was awesome? I screen like skyjacking at every show.

I screen like skyjacking at every show. And honestly, I've done, I don't know, hundreds of shows. Was your sobriety something that scared you? It scared me, yeah. Like everything kind of around that can be kind of scary. But yeah, sobriety is awesome, dude. 10 years, you said? 12.

Congratulations. Almost 12. I don't want to give myself uh more time than i have my sobriety dates march 10th of 08 so i'm creeping up on 12 years okay well congratulations because there's a lot of scary photos that came out about you that all be your big fans were very by the way it was worse than just photos it was it was bad there was a whole YouTube special. Yeah, it was bad. And I could not be more grateful for how bad it got. Because like alcoholism and drug addiction, that's something that you don't want to dabble in. You know, because that would be the worst.

If you just had alcoholism and drug addiction, like just a little bit, just enough to like interfere with your relationships and and and and just ruin your your everything productivity you know like stop you from accomplishing anything and then the years just slip through your fingers because you have alcoholism just kind of but not so bad that it's got to stop you know then like years turn into decades and then you're like where'd my life go like that happens to a lot of people and in my case it was so stark it was just so drastically terrible that i had to do something about it and because that was the case here i'm 12 years in and i've been like super productive like i said

i've been pretty productive for uh for this whole period of sobriety. And now, you know, I'm not missing out. I'm doing what I want to be doing. Steve-O! Steve-O! That's awesome, man. We got like a minute and a half left. All right.

When we heard you were coming in here, Diggs just brought in a staple gun. I'm like, I don't think that's the right thing. I don't know if that's how it is. Everywhere you go go do people just expect you to do dumb things not dumb i'm sorry massively no i mean hey dude like uh i i'm comfortable calling it dumb things and uh you know what i get more than people trying to get me to do silly stunts and this is completely fascinating to me like the what i get the most is dudes saying, man, is there any way I could get you to kick me in the nuts?

Like, honestly, like, dudes. I have zero doubt whatsoever that I have been asked by more dudes to kick them in the nuts than any man who's ever lived in the history of the universe. Congratulations to you for that. I might have kicked more nuts, too. See him at Helium Comedy Club tonight and tomorrow in Indianapolis, in Chicago or the suburbs of Chicago.

It's the Chicago Improv next weekend. You guys are our champions, man. And what a hero of Indianapolis, Pat McAfee. Oh, Jesus. That's McAfee. Have some respect. We'll see you next week. Feel Good Friday is beautiful.

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