The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1520 - Big Sports Tuesday With Dan Orlovsky, Brewers Starter Jacob Misiorowski, Arkansas Head Coach John Calipari, Executive Director of NFLPA JC Tretter, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything happening around the sports world including college pro day’s leading to the NFL Draft, MLB Opening Day, March Madness line movement leading into Thursday and Friday’s Sweet 16 games, Tiger returning to TGL, and more. They are also joined by several great guests including 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky, Milwaukee Brewers All-Star and opening day starter Jacob Misiorowski, National Champion, 6x Final Four participant and current Head Coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, John Calipari ahead of their Sweet Sixteen matchup against Arizona, and lastly, the new Executive Director of the NFLPA and 9 year NFL vet, JC Tretter. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’re off the next two days for March Madness, we’ll see you on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdom. On this big sports Tuesday, March 24th, 2026, this program begins now. Sports! We're the absolute greatest, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. We got basketball, we got football, we got an NFLPA executive chairman, director, super duper. That's right. I mean, there's going to be a lot of journalism done today. There's going to be a lot of celebration of sport today.

And there's going to be a lot of talking about, wow, Travis Kelsey has a brand new deal with the Kingsgate. Was there any doubt that he was coming back, potentially, because where he is at the stage of his career, goat conversations, over $100 plus million earned as a football player, multiple times Super Bowl champion. We'll go down as a guy who helped football as a whole.

And as we know, significant other most famous person on Earth, who's also a self-made billionaire and one of the most talented people. people of all time. Travis's podcast, great. We assume movies will be phenomenal. He has incredible moxie. The guy could go on to take on and do anything in the world. The fact that he's coming back to play football again

makes me excited. And the fact that last year at the end of the season, he was playing a meaningless games in front of 2,000 people. Patrick Holmes wasn't playing. He was hurt, obviously. He was out. Kansas Chiefs were out of playoff contention. And this old ass, who's already certified, already

everything we just listed off, already a first about Hall of Famer? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. He just don't know anymore. Maybe we don't know with the whole Hall of Fame thing how it's going to go. He was playing in meaningless games at the end of the season, giving it as all. It's like, wait, is this a victory lap for this guy for the last time he puts on the pads? Or is this a reminder of what football was like at the beginning of his time at Kansas City before they turn that place into an absolute juggernaut, before they turn that place into a dynasty?

And is he hungry for one final run? Is he still addicted to the confetti? is the girl that he's with, the most powerful, most famous, maybe one of the most talented people in the history, whenever they go through the entire thing of what she's been able to accomplish. Is she motivating him to continue to go? He said, yes, that is 100% the case. And now we have the salary cap gymnastics that the Kansas City Chiefs are going to do to keep him around and also give him another nice paycheck, which he certainly has earned and deserved. $12 million basically is guaranteed. It's a three-year deal with two years of salary-cap gymnastics on the back end of that. Souther-cap gymnastics means we're going to give you this

money now, and then we're going to utilize the amount of years. The contract is to spread out the cap hit, you see? This is called getting a little gym nasty with it. And a lot of salary cap experts around the league have been able to do this, and their teams have certainly prospered. The Kansas City Chiefs, with Veach, certainly one of them. So it's a three-year deal, big money on the back end. That is just to eliminate the salary cap hit for each season, and they have a button that they're going to be able to end this contract, we assume, after this season. But on that note, congrats to them getting a deal done, and congrats to football, getting Travis Kelsey back.

That's huge news out of the NFL. There's also incredible pro days, which we're going to showcase here in just a matter of moments. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer, Cowboys AP Ton is here. Now, Ty, the baseball season starts tomorrow night, right? That is right. You don't bet on all those games, right?

How does this thing go? Yeah, I wouldn't recommend betting on all those games, but opening night, yeah, you got to have several in the whole. there. So tomorrow night is Giants Yankees. Correct. It'll be on Netflix. Everybody's pumped about this. It seems like let's see how it goes first, maybe. Before we all say that everything's going to be ass. Yes, I love the- Everybody's saying everything's going to be ass.

Yeah, people aren't happy about it. I love the broadcast team. We got CC in the booth. We love C-C. Exactly. Barry Bonds is going to be there. So like the actual baseball portion. Is he going to sit down interview at the house? See, I don't know because he might be on like a one-on-one special guest interview with James Winston, who is also going to be there? He might be in McCoveymovie Cove. We love James Winston. Love James. Everybody that has been announced as a special guest for opening night has been met with, now, why the fuck do we need? There's been a lot of that. I'd like to say,

every time James on a microphone, I like it. I agree. I don't think people are mad about James because he also plays for the Giants, so there's kind of a New York connection. Baseball guy. Yeah, if you want to shuffle back to that for a second, Foxy. Yeah, I think this is one of the things that people have an issue with. Why? Listen, I love Uso's. I'm not just saying that because I know you're going to say anytime you say I love blank. Yeah, there's a setup for you to say you hate somebody.

Because we actually love the Uso's. Legit love that. We do you. Yee. Yeah, yeah. I don't want any of that bullshit tomorrow night, though. Okay, not for a Yankees game. I don't need in the third.

I don't need in the third. I feel like I was kind of a little bit of tiny part of the entire thing. I don't need when, you know. You're spitting in the face of Yee? We had it. Because you know what's going to happen? Jay walks out there. Whole place.

Who's? Yeah. Exactly. It's going to be the third inning. Either the Giants or the Yankees is going to maybe have guys on like second or third. Pitch is coming in. Oh, let's cut to the crowd and Jay Uso's walking down doing this bullshit. What do you mean? This bullshit?

It is not bullshit. It is a unifying celebration of life. You know what? You know what? You know what? You want that? You want that? Go fucking see a WW event. Not on opening night of baseball. Not only that, we got Bert Kreisher doing his gimmick the whole time. They're going to be showing Bert in the crowd with his shirt off.

No, he's open with the shirt off, actually. Well, there you go. I'd actually be okay with that. I will say Bert will adjust to acclimate to make it entertaining. I believe that is what Bert will do. So I would like everybody not to just murder everything before we see it. Now, after you get a chance to watch it, if you super baseball, people are like, this is not the baseball that I want.

See, you know, because I don't care about that either. This isn't from like a purest thing. Maybe this is just me as like a Yankees fan and someone who has been waiting a long time for the season to be back. like I want what I know. I don't want Jay Uso doing... Jay Uso is the least of your word. I know you.

Jay and Jimmy Uso are going to crush it tomorrow. You need to know that. And I don't know why I'm just kind of harping on them. But if I see Jay Uso doing a super kick to like Bruce Bochie on top of the dugout or something like that, I'm going to be red-hot. I'm going to be red-ass. What? That's what we're waiting on.

That'd be awesome. We'll see. Another one. Yeah, exactly. Which, you know, finisher should be one super kick and that's the end of it. But I'm just saying I'm going to give it its chance. I'm going to give it its due. I'm not going to jump to conclusions, kind of like I just did.

But I'm going to be ready. There's a lot of people that are ready to book it. And I would like to say to everybody over there, we appreciate the fact that Netflix is getting more into sport. I agree. We appreciate that. And also evolving sport and changing how sports are covered. I think that is a part of transitioning through eras.

I remember back whenever hockey had the stadium series when they launched it, and I remember the sky cam being sick. I remember going down the ice with. sit as he's doing his thing. It was incredible. I'm like, holy hell. I never played ice hockey. I can't skate that good. Can skate if I have to. Not good enough for that entire thing. And also the amount of commitment and time and finances to hockey is crazy. That's why I'm so pumped America is still good. But on a sky cam, I felt like I was in it. I'm like, oh, I know where the box is going. I feel like I know it a little bit. And I immediately say this is the greatest thing of all

the time. And then all of a sudden, hockey people just started like coming after me for ruining the game, basically. It's ruining the game. It's doing this entire thing. I think anytime you change anything around things that are beloved by a lot of people, they're going to be pissed off. But if it's ass, I mean, you're going to hear it. You're not only changing it, which you're going to get hate for, but if it's ass and you're changing it, it's like, oh, you're super genius. You thought you were better than what we've been doing for 100 years in this.

Yeah, and to your point, that is one thing I actually am excited to see is like what kind of flare Netflix is going to bring to it because this is the first baseball game they've ever had. So who knows what they're going to try to improve, like, the overall viewing? What was Apple's gimmick? We just got higher quality cameras. Yeah, yeah. And they would like, like, you see it every once in a while when a guy will, like, hit a home run where like the cameraman will kind of come right and like follow them around the bases almost.

But like they had like a roving camera almost that would like kind of take you into the action more it seemed. And it was like an 8K camera. So that was their, yeah, only gimmick. Okay. So I'm excited to see what Netflix does. Netflix, you know, I mean, it seemed like Stephen A maybe just saw it recently. Honnold doing the climb. Yeah, that's right.

That was an interesting. That was a captivating thing. they're spending a lot of money in sport right now. I'm here in Nate Diaz. UFC, yeah. I'm here, Nate Diaz is fighting on Netflix, and then the numbers that are being floated for how much he's getting paid, it's like, if they're going to be spending that much money in sports and on athletes,

I'm cool with it. Good luck over there. But don't be asked, please, if you're going to take massive swing. Bingo. For the good of sports. Exactly. For the good of sports, you need this to be great. I have faith in everybody.

And the Uso's are the least of your word. I'm actually excited. I'm sorry. I want to apologize to Jay and Jimmy because I actually, I do love the Uso's. Yeah, but they know ball, though. Right. Jimmy and Jay grew up in athletic, family, athletic, neighborhood, athletic, sport. I mean, they know ball.

So I think they will understand the situation. And it's not their fault if that place turns into yank. That would be cool. I'd be okay with that. Okay, all right, I want to have the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius Jay Butler is here. We just won off on baseball coverage that we don't know about yet,

but we are excited about the baseball season getting started. I feel like we know more about ball now than ever. we haven't had a chance to really talk about this. World Baseball Classic was incredible. I think I'm a baseball fan because of it, actually. I genuinely think I was interested in baseball, then going to the World Baseball Classic. It's like, all right, I get it now.

Because they had no hits. We had nothing really to cheer for on the offensive side of things, which is normally what I would say is the most boring of all time. But when Bryce hit that home run, I mean, that feeling it's like, I don't know if I've ever experienced something like that before. It was awesome down there, and I think we're into baseball. Yeah, it was crazy.

You know, MLB has been great to us. They let us in. an all-star game. That was a great experience. And then been out there for kind of day one of them getting around each other and there, I guess, training camp and practices. That was awesome. And then to get down there for the final in Venezuela, like the crowd was unbelievable. It was clearly a road game for USA. But just the energy in there. And it wasn't like they were, they weren't assholes at all. Like they were definitely all for their team, their country, but they were also very welcoming and nice to us. We had some behind us and in front of us. We had a pretty American

area overall, but the energy in there, the ponche, I mean. The poncha was unbelievable, but the vibes, the game, obviously didn't go our way, but, you know, the right team won. They earned it. We had the lineup. We had the batters. We had the names just didn't show up in the moment. But the actual sporting environment, like I never thought I would enjoy myself or feel that type of energy at a baseball game. Ever, but I think it was good for baseball as a whole.

Great for baseball. I think big takeaway is good for baseball. Great for baseball. And I love, you know, just how much everybody care. Like the players care. And we watched, I don't know if you spoke about it in detail, but after the game, you know, we received our silver medals because clearly all those guys signed up to win it. You know, these are the best players in the game. So we're walking off and we're like, all right, by the time, you know, who takes the least amount of steps before they take this medal off.

And like, that's, so I know the boys will be back. They'll get it done. But I think it was great for baseball overall, just how much the players care, the coaches, the former players been in the dugout. You know, you meet McGee. You're seeing pool holes. Like all these guys still being that close to the game. Ken Griffey been like the ambassador. and obviously doing his photographer thing as well.

It was dope. It was great for baseball, and I'm actually excited for opening day. I don't think I've ever been excited for me neither. Yeah, I'm actually pretty juiced up. Logan Webb's getting to start too for the Giants. He was a part of our Team USA story because I just so happened to be on a bus

whenever there was a full court press on a guy to join Team USA. Just met Grandpa Rossi an hour and 10 minutes before that. He showed up too. He was one of the guys showed up. He did show up. He was all tournament team, WBC. As you should have been. Put that in your cap.

Exactly. It's not me, though. No, it's not. I know. But he maybe would not have been playing. He said they cared more than anyone else. I mean, I'm wearing Team USA hat, okay, at that thing, not knowing that guy's coming in, not knowing Grandpa Ross, even coaching team.

I mean, to be honest, I didn't know. I knew next to nothing. I actually had to send a text, hey, what, grandpa guy from Cubs, because I'm on same buff. Grandpa guy from Cubs, legend. And I take a picture of him, and I send it to group. And everybody goes, David, Dave, that's Grandpa Ross. You'll go by any of those things. So I go,

Grandpa, what up, dude? That's how the conversation started. So the fact that it all kind of came together in that moment, outrageously wild. But yeah, I don't think it really took much to get them. It felt like a couple, hey, come on. Everybody's doing it.

America. Hell yeah, dude. So aren't we doing that right now? And then, all right, yeah, I'll do it. And then he goes out there. Yeah, he shoves. He does. Yeah, I'm very thankful for that.

I love baseball. Jacob Mizorowski will be joining us. He's opening day starter for the Brewers. He came into Super Starter, last year whenever he got put into the All-Star game, the same All-Star game in which I led the press conference. Yep. And Ty and I introed the Home Run Derby people.

We got a chance to meet him. There's a lot of people pissed because he was only five starts in. But I think his first ever start as a young lad, he got drafted in 2022 out of like Crowder, which is a junior college. He was supposed to go to LSU, but he got picked 63rd. So he got a couple million dollars. So instead of going to LSU with Paul Skeen's, he wants that a Brewer's farm system, I guess. Then last year he gets his first start.

I think he struck out the first 10 guys he started against. He's like 6'7, he throws absolute heat, I guess, became a sensation, made the All-Star game after only five starts. Now he's opening day starter for the Brewers, get out of Missouri, and I think he throws some real fill. I think this guy's a guy. Yes. I think this guy's a guy, and we had great conversations whenever we were pretty boozed up at the home run dirty guy. Yeah. I think that's really the only way to describe how we were in that T-Mobile Super-duper zone there.

Yeah, we kind of had to be, too, because, you know, I mean, like, you didn't know a whole lot of these guys, and it was kind of like, you know, I wasn't trying to step on toes because like we said, like, you mentioned, like, the All-Star game, every other All-Star game, like, these guys can just have fun. Like, these guys are all working when, you know, we're down there with them. But, yeah, people were pissed, but if you watch one of, I mean, he throws so hard. His breaking stuff is unbelievable. Like, he will be one of those guys where, you know, Skeens had that kind of superstar rise. Everyone kind of saw it coming. and like he should be a guy who should make a big jump this year and we'll be in a lot of conversation.

Are the Brewer's ass? No, no. Brewers are good. Who got in over Christopher Sanchez, right? That is correct. Yes. Yeah, they were not happy. Yeah, there was somebody in Philly too that he got in over.

That was him. He's got a new deal to you, my guy. He's got a new six-year deal, though. Well, congratulations to him. Yeah. You know who also just got a big deal? What was that? PCA with the Chicago.

That's right. Yeah. You did a deal. Jack Passer just broke this news. Serfielder, Pete Crow, Armstrong, stud of Team USA, perform for us. Think it a lot of opportunities late.

You're in a championship. On the back. And the Scarlett Cubs are finalizing a long-term contract extension. Sources tell ESPN, a Crow Armstrong coming off a 30-30 season, which we know what that means. 30 homers, 30 stolen bases. Of course, yeah. That guy's unbelievable. We'll get a big payday as the Cubs lock up a franchise caliber talent.

Hey, he's good for America too. Congrats, PCA. PCA. PCA. PCA. Okay, baseball is happening. We're obviously excited about that. March Madness is.

the story of the current life that we live in the sports world. There's a little bit of movement going on across the board. We'll talk to Coach Kalapari in the second hour. Obviously, Paizan legend has Arkansas back in the Sweet 16 yet again. What a stud of a human he is. Every time he comes on the show, it's a show. Yeah. He's unbelievable.

Beast. There's going to be a lot of things said. There might be some reminders of some things that have been done in the past by him. Just as a check. Just I don't know if we know this or not. And then there's also going to be some things said that are going to to tell us whether or not he is having the time of his life, which is what it appears. I mean, if you go back to whenever he takes the job at Arkansas, kind of gets shoved out

of Kentucky, he takes the job at Arkansas. We talked to him, he had no players on the roster. They had no, nobody, everybody left, everybody transveste. We have no players on the rock. Pat, that's what he says when he's on the show. We have no guys on the team. Now, back-to-back Sweet 16s, it feels like, has the guy in A-Cuff Jr., who might be the star. He just signed with AI and Reebok.

This guy, which is a perfect, I mean, point guard with AI teaming up at this stage of AI's existence. I love everything about it. It's going to be a beautiful thing. I can't wait to hear his thoughts. But March Madness now, I have not been the best. The crown has not been mine.

It could be. The crown has not been mine. I've been in there, though. You're trying. Trying to find it. I've been looking for the crown. It's the only way you can get it. You got to play it again. There's a lot of movement happening, I guess. Which way do I need to think about for these March Madness? we need to understand whatever we're potentially

placing some more bets, even though I might retire. What? No. Made March madness. Too soon. Retire from. The crown is still going. From basketball or gambling in general? Just basketball, right? Yeah, because I was bent on baseball. I retired from gambling on baseball. Remember when that happened? Maybe you're listening.

Five thousand bucks. Yeah. Are you listening to the right people? Is the question. TGL's got a hole in a night. Plus 5,800 tonight for TGL whole-on-one. Tigers playing. Oh. Championship round.

We need ratings. How many part three is we got? All right. We're not saying that. We're not saying that. We understand that there's real competition tonight. And we understand that we play in the SIM on a regular basis, and it will tease you, too. The SIM will actually give you a little bit more of a, hey, actually, here's a close-up view of this potentially.

And then have it go away. So it's certainly a lot more heartbreak. But they're fresh off of a hole in one, I believe. And now the excitement level for another is great. Plus 58 hunch. Maybe Todd does this thing for the TV. G. Which is hits a hole in one in the font.

Maybe two of them. Maybe. Is there a two hole in one? Prop on that? It should be. Let's get back to basketball. We're betting on the Jupor team, even though they're the underdogs there to probably go. That's right.

They're playing the Los Angeles team. The L.A. team is so good. Powerhouse. They were good. Good match last night. Yeah, it was a great match last night. It came down to the last hole. 6-5, yeah.

Kisner kind of choked it away, to be honest. No, the hammered down, though. Yeah, he had to win the hammer. All he had to do was tie the hand. hammer hole he couldn't do it, swing, and L.A. wins. Man, see, the problem is TGL is now at its second finals, and people have no idea we're talking about when he just said to hammered up.

I know. That's a very crucial part of the whole thing. It's a huge, if you watch TGL, that's a swing. A hammer is a full swing. You're throwing a hammer. That's a huge swing. More people need to understand it. Just know, tonight, Tigers got his son

Day Red. As he tries to hunt for another championship. But as we look for some sort of Brown from Drafking? Yep. March Madness, what are the lines telling us? The crown can be yours if you know what's going on. I don't think so.

Yeah, yeah. So for the Sweet 16, good news. There is not a spread more than 10 and a half, or sorry, more than 10 points. All the spreads are single digits, which is awesome. Sometimes when you have these Cinderella sneak in, there could be 13, 14, 15 point spreads in this round. But we all have single digit spread. So that's awesome. They are predicting good games.

16 teams, eight games, seven of those games have had line movement. of at least a point five of those have been towards the dogs. So people are liking the dogs so far in this round, even though the tournament so far has been to the favorites. The biggest line movement so far is the Arkansas and Arizona game. The public is on Arkansas, more than 60% of the bet. So that has gone from 9.5 to 7.5. The last time I checked it,

Arizona is still the favorite, but is dropping because people think Arkansas is going to cover. And then one of the games where the movement has gone from the, from a pickum to the favorite Yukon and Michigan State was a pickum. It went to minus two and a half for Yukon. It's currently sitting at minus one and a half, I believe, for Yukon. But the money is on Yukon. So the money is on Yukon, but the line

is getting worse for Yukon. We call that reverse line movement. A lot of people think sometimes that maybe should go with Michigan State in that situation. Okay. All right. See, but now that's right where they want you. Who is they? The crown. The crown is our friend The crown wants us to win

I know they say that But it just feels like they're always the ones Doing the crown Well that's because people are laying $5,000 $10,000 on minus 5,000 You know, money lines Whoa, whoa, whoa Please, I have a little respect

Just want to see one go through Yeah To my point the crown had been in their side For too long I wanted the crown And I thought it was guarantee And then the Italian said No, they didn't say that

They said, grazzi Yeah, yeah they did And they drank their espresso, which sold for 16. $16,000. We should have got that. Cheap. Do we know that was for sale? I know.

Yes. We knew that was for sale that got sent in? It was in the group. Yeah. I missed it. I didn't know that. Boys, we need to immediately you hop on things like this. If I miss it, that's on me.

Who knows where I could have been? Because if I would have seen that, I would, that needs to be over here. We'd like to offer whoever this is, $16,522. Immediate response. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who made quite a statement yesterday. with 29 days until the draft, which is being held in beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The night before the draft in Pittsburgh at the Cayman Science Center,

we will be hosting a viewing of the Football Tan, which is the NFL Films feature film, right? Is that the upper description? Future film that I was very lucky to voice over. It's basically the history of Pittsburgh and football and how football helped create the city of Steel and how the people, the Jensers, basically are everything that is football. It is a, from my understanding, it is very well done.

I cried after watching the first five minutes that I got a chance to see, which is basically the open, let alone what it's going to be like in the Cayman Science Center, which is like a little baby sphere that we've had there. You're kind of immersed in it as you're in there. And it's just like the fact that I was asked, the voice was crazy. There's so many people out of Pittsburgh that should have been voicing that over. And all of them, I think, are in the film, too. So that's like a really cool thing, just like being a part.

So I'm very humbled, but it'll be my first time watching it. So we're going to put something together, try to raise some money, probably sell some tickets. I don't know how many they will be. We'll be inviting some friends. Hopefully they'll come. But when we're at the draft on the Thursday, the night after this one here in Pittsburgh, when will Ty Simpson's name be said? Well, one guy went on TV yesterday and said, and he needs to be said first overall.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Dan Olofsky. Yeah. Yeah. Dan O. Dan O! What's up? Hello, people of Pittsburgh. my name's Roger Goodell

I'm the commissioner of the NFL and here is 250 Pittsburgh firefighters standing right behind that's what I thought thank you thank you thank you look over there you you're right here's Bill Cowher

Debo James Harrison's right over here Make some noise for Ben Rothesperman Once again my name's Roger Roger Goodell, thank you so much for having us here in Pittsburgh. The draft starts now with the first pick of the 2026 NFL draft. The Las Vegas Raiders select Ty Simpson quarterback out of Alabama. What?

Whoa. And Dan's going to, Dan's going to, Dan's going to, just like I fucking said it would. Is that what's happening right now? Just so I understand. just so I can kind of understand everything that's going on. Are you trying to predict what's going to happen on draft night by what you're actually hearing around NFL buildings? Are you going off the film that you watch

and how you think that Ty Simpson's going to be a better NFL quarterback? And are you saying he's a better NFL quarterback right now or is going to end up being a better NFL quarterback just so I can get a better understanding because I am Ty Simpson fan. I would like this to be known. I think Ty Simpson is a good football player. I hope Ty Simpson is a great NFL player

that's good for the league, good for Ty, and also Saban loves him and we love Saban. So like I'm not saying the tie is not a good quarter, but it seems like everybody on earth except for you is pretty much in the department of like this six foot five, 240 pound guy who won a national championship for IU is the number one guy.

Go ahead, pal. I'm sorry, I'll let you go now. I feel like I set the table for who you are, what you are, what you've said. Now we are 29 days away from either you being right or the rest of the world being right. That's kind of how I feel. Your thoughts on it. I were a lot longer away from figuring out right or wrong because when the draft happens doesn't mean one was right or one was wrong.

I'll remember that. To the comment of it seems like everybody on earth thinks that Fernando Mendoza is the first quarterback or quarterback one. That's not true. I can factually tell you that that's not a real thing. You know, Tannenbaum, yeah. No. And everyone at CAA. And CA certainly, yeah.

I don't like that they're saying that about you. I don't like that they're saying that about you. I don't think that's fair. Genuinely, I don't think that's fair. I would just like for everybody, again, so I pay attention to a, not a pay attention. I see a lot of the things that get said. Don't address them all type of thing, but the agents work for us, not the other way around, just so everybody knows.

They're employed by us, respectfully. how the business model is. CAA's a very big agency. They have a lot of people. That's all I'll say on that. Okay, good. I do think it's pretty unfair just to naturally piece you together because CA does have people that have Fernando

as the number one guy as well, and it's like, well, you don't think they're telling them. So it is fascinating that you take that. But on that note, I think it's because it does feel like you have to be getting paid by somebody to come as strong as you're coming right now with Ty Simpson, with how Fernando potentially finished the year last year and played his

football kind of life at Indiana. I would just say I'm not nearly important enough to CIA financially for them to pay me to say something about a guy who might be the 20th pick in the draft, okay? So I'm just, it's not worth

them, I don't make enough money for them to pay me money to say that. But people can think what they want. There is no motive. We will. I am trying to make more money if that is. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was a great take. There is no motive behind this.

There is no ulterior motive behind this. I would go back to a couple years ago. I was higher on Jaden Daniels than people were. I would go back to last year. I was higher on Jackson Dart than people were. I thought Jackson Dart should have been a top 10 pick. He wasn't. I still felt that way.

In relation to the Ty Simpson and Fernando Mendoza thing, it just comes for me, I guess it's the battle of traits versus tape. I am confident that, in my opinion, Ty Simpson's tapes are more impressive. His tape is more impressive to me. I can understand where people sit there and say, well, traits, because we have this history of the NFL, and traits matter for quarterbacks like they do every player. it doesn't mean that that's the only thing that matters. I would argue that the traits are secondary for quarterback play,

unless they're going to be a top five pick. And so, yeah, I just think his tape is better, Pat. I believe that he dominated more games. I believe that he was asked to do more things that look like common NFL things. I believe that he played on a team that he had to elevate more. and that's just kind of how I watch the tape. All right, I love to hear that from you. You know, I do.

And certainly time will tell whether or not both of these guys are good NFL quarterbacks. One of them is a good NFL quarterback. And if you were right or if you were wrong, and I'm sure that if you were right, people will certainly tell you. And I'm sure if you were wrong, they won't tell you, Dan. You know, I'm sure that's not going to have this. No, you're saying. If I'm wrong, I'll hear it basically on a daily basis. Oh, you're saying the complete opposite happens.

Yeah, if you're right, nobody will tell you four or five years from now, because that's basically what you're saying is how long this is going to take. On that note, if Ty Simpson goes number two overall, I don't think we would be surprised strictly because we've covered the NFL for a longer time, and we've been lucky enough to be in locker rooms and listen to these people talk. If a team likes a quarterback and they need a quarterback, they will do whatever the hell they need to do to get that quarterback. That is literally just happens damn near yearly in the NFL draft.

So if Ty Simpson ends up going number two, we basically just heard why he won number two. Because some general manager is thinking the exact same thing that Dan Rolofsky is thinking. Like, hey, these guys, traits are incredible. His film's unbelievable. He's a good leader. Sabin's saying he's great. Obviously, he didn't play as many games. He only started like, what, 15 games or something like that?

I forget what it was. But he played against Alabama's defense and practice, like every single day. There's, I certainly from, just from listening to you, now I didn't, I didn't have this deep of an analysis on Ty Simpson. I guess I probably should have. I feel like that's more like you're good. No, it's not your job. Like that, this is my, this is part of my job. That's not your job.

Like, this is my job. So we're hearing, though, from you what people could potentially buy in on Tyson. It sounds like is what we're hearing from you, Dan. Is that what you're thinking to? I mean, I would tell you this. I go every year, I, I just, watch games like I have. I did this year. I finally got done with Ty just so about a week ago. I felt strongly about feeling that he was the number one quarterback in the class. I can tell you,

and I'm not going to tell you who, but I probably texted 12 to 15 general manager decision-making coaches in the NFL, the very simple text of Ty Simpson is QB1 in this class, or the best quarterback in this class and two people got back to me with a disagreement okay and the rest didn't respond and the rest have quarterbacks yeah so was it a thumbs

up from the people or was it like what was the response yeah had a baby Dano like what is it a positive sh don't tell me yeah it was some form of like agree some form of agree yeah it wasn't necessarily I agree sometimes it wasn't a thumbs up

sometimes it was a gif of like Yes. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, but is that, sir? Was it like, what's up, Big Dog? With Tyler? Like, anybody saying that?

Was there any of the white guy? Oh, yeah. Is there any of that one? What difference? No. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Was it Tom Brady holding hands with Mendoza looking back at Ty Simpson?

Oh, yeah. Could have been that one. Yeah. Was it okay, Dan? Or like, okay, Dan. Yeah, I don't know. Voice memo, maybe. Yeah.

Did they say, just so you understand. this. This is, okay, Dan, did they send that? Like, what, we need a little bit more context on what the 11 to 12 responses were that you got. I feel like I gave you the guys the context and you just went, no, most of the context was

in some form of agreement. Sometimes it was words, sometimes it was an emoji, sometimes it was a gift or a meme or whatever they are. Anybody send you just back the eyes and then you automatically took that as a yes, even though that might have been a what the fuck? Yeah. You don't know. You know, like cigarette smoke from Lamar on his tweet.

That outrageous of a thought. I really, really, really don't. I don't think everyone is saying this. Oh my gosh. You're going to tell me that you think it's an outrageous thought because. Nobody's saying that. Nobody's saying that. Nobody's saying that.

Okay? You got, everyone's got to tell me like, you don't like Ty Simpson because he's an inch shorter than you want him to be. Or like, do you, I'll ask you this. Because it seems like you know him decently. Mario Cristobald, do you think decently about him as a football thought person of mind?

Yeah, he's also a great Eminem. I mean, he's a fire. No, I like him as a football guy. Offensive lineman, yes, I think he comes from the right football mindset. All right. I mean, he was offering Ty Simpson six and a half bucks.

Okay, so Carlson, Mario Cristobal can't be an idiot. Everyone else is taken. Yeah, well. Everyone else is taken, or they offer him, so they offer him six and a half bucks, dude? Come on. So they're offering him six and a half bucks.

So like at the current situation or like all football players that are currently playing football, you know? Like I think I respect. Yeah, but how much are these guys making now that we think about? Like if they would have paid Fernando Mendoza $15 million to play this year for IU, he would have been underpaid. Yeah. I think he would have been underpaid. Worth it, yeah. But on that note, there's no way they are paying on that because that wasn't the deal.

That starts getting into like the professional conversation of it all. Like LeBron's contracts are this. Like, what is it? what is his actual value? Do you know, too, the whole thing? I don't, I don't know if Indiana would have paid Mendoza $15 million. No, I'm saying if they would have, though.

Like, I'm just saying, like, let's say he got paid $15, as you say it. As you say, he got paid $15. With what happened, everybody would be like, yes, definitely do that. Of course. So six and a half for Miami, I'm saying, like, that's also in comparison to what Miami could potentially be

if it does work out with him as, like, you know, like that. And there's also no market in college. It's just some numbers that are getting thrown out everywhere. That's, but I think he would have earned it. I think Ty Simpson would have been great on that team. Carson Beck won't done or did his thing. So that.

Ty Simpson rapping 50 cent on Oklahoma. That's still ingrained in my brain. We like the guy. It's just. Yeah, we just. We like Mendozaa. We're big, we boots on the ground saw Fernando. Sure.

The biggest games. And it's just like everything about him just screams. What biggest games, Pat? Huh? What biggest games? The college football. playoffs. Now you're playing awesome. Now you're right. Those SEC games are bigger than the fucking playoff games. Am I allowed to ask questions and have an opinion? They played each other

head to head. Okay, Dan, do you just have, so the college football playoffs, a big mockery, a scam doesn't mean anything. These games just don't matter. Like, what do you mean? What are the biggest games? They have a full fucking committee. They have billions of dollars in TV rights for what the biggest games are. Okay. And so, no, no, no. I'm aware of that, dude. Like, you guys, Okay, so in the biggest games So the college football Playoffs started and they played opening their opening games

I guess you can say Big Ten Championship I guess You can say Big Ten Championship Okay, Big Ten Championship. Okay, Big Ten Championship In that game, they're down 13 to 6 going into the fourth quarter Indiana. And that what? So are, do they And then what? And then what, brother?

Yes. We're talking about all the moments. You're talking about traits. It's like, okay, how about second and 17? It's six points through the first three quarters. People... Ohio State defense is a historic defense. Like, what are we even talking about? People crucified

Archmanning for doing that. On the road. Crucified Archmanning? Archmane's not a part of the problem. Well, if you go by that, too, like Indiana beat Alabama, what, 38-0? I mean, it's, you know. So just picking and choosing... No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. And this is why people say you're getting paid

to do this. You know what I mean, Dan? No, no, because I'm giving you factual information, not opinion. They had six points through the first three quarters in the big ten title games. Against Ohio State, look up who their defense is. Look up what that defense. It's like one of the greatest defenses in the history of football.

And then what did he do? Then what do you do, Dan? The biggest moment. And what do you do, Dan? The biggest court, Charlie Becker. He threw, I think he threw the post to start the second half, which is a great throw and a great recognition. And a huge moment after getting beat.

So mental toughness is there. And then obviously being able to take a shot, he cracked his rib on the first play. I mean, there's just like, you know, because then you're going to hold injuries on the other side. It's like, well, how about first point? a big 10 championship guy gets this and then takes two plays off. Wow, I just got cracked.

No pause, he said, on our show. And then jogs back out there. It's like, is that not a trait? I don't know. You tell me. Of course it's a trait. No one's questioning if he's a tough guy or a good player. What I'm saying to you is, you guys go,

we watched them boots on the ground versus the biggest games. They had six points in the Big Ten title game through the first three quarters. Six, okay? Yes, he makes two throws. One of them is another. back shoulder throw and they win the game, I think, 17, 13 or 1310, something like that. Then they play, I believe, Alabama. Ty Simpson gets hurt.

Alabama can't do anything on offense without Ty Simpson. And they put up, I think, 38 or something on a defense that they played literally all-out zero coverage almost every snap. And he lit them up. There's no question about it. But Dee Butt knows this. They played zero on almost every snap. Then you go to the-

14 to 16. for 192 yards is what Fernando Mendoza was against Alabama's defense. Alabama defense probably okay. Then they go to Oregon, play Oregon, I believe in the semis. It's 35 to 7 at halftime. They had three possessions that started

inside the 10-yard line, and I would argue up 35 to 7 through half. There wasn't one throw that you're like, oh my gosh, what a ridiculous throw. They go to the national title game. Oregon, 17 and 25 touchdowns is what Fernando as it was. Just go ahead, keep going, though. Just as

we're going through this thing, we're just going to go ahead and 17 and 20 for five touchdowns. Okay, so go ahead, go to the next one. They had three possessions that started inside the 10-yard line. Okay, best in the red zone, yeah, number one in the country in red zone, actually. Yep, go ahead. One at Oregon, too. And number one in the country, the third down. Go ahead. Please, though. RPO stuff, back shoulder,

third and seven, Omar Cooper Jr., whenever it mattered, first third down of the game. Go ahead, please. We're just saying, all these things you're saying, I don't know, you know, it's hard. It's hard. It's hard. what is hard. They had three possessions that served inside the 10-yard line. It's not his fault.

Yeah, the defense must tighten down. It's not. No, Mendoza made Bama run zero the entire game. Yeah, and zero, let's go to Penn State. Let's go back to Penn State, you know. That Penn State team, you're right, completely done by then. Shouldn't have any close games at any of this stuff, but... Weren't they losing to start the fourth quarter like 24-20?

Okay, and then what? Exactly, then. That's a trait, too, isn't it? The only thing that maybe is a trait. trait. I'm not saying it's not a trait, but everyone continues to go, Dan, you're such an idiot. He was so clutching games. The comeback against Iowa, they had 10 points through three quarters. That's a great defense. I was a defense. Through a standard.

Through a team where he just absolutely ate it. Yeah, what do we? I mean, unbelievable stuff. I understand what you're saying. And we just want to say, we got a chance to live what he did for the state of Indiana, you know? So when he goes 17 and 20 for a team, we're watching all 17 of those on a regular basis out here. You know, and he's going 14 to 16 or whatever it is, we're seeing all of it. Yeah, he's a good player. I'm not saying he's not a good player. I've never once said Oaks Fernando Mendoza isn't good.

That's why it's, I hate these conversations because it's like Rolofsky doesn't like Mendoza. I'm not saying that. Back shoulder. How you doing? Keep him moving. Give me that. So you think that's a better throw or a better catch? I mean, definitely had playmakers out there, but yeah.

Every ball he threw was because the wide receivers were so good. Yeah, that right there, that was a great catch right there. That was a great catch. No, I didn't say that. It's kind of like a handoff 30 yards down the field. But I, hey, listen, Dan. I got plenty of stuff to that, too. What we're just saying is we are fans of Ty Simpson.

We are just, Fernando, I think we think he's earned the right in the biggest games playing the way that he's played just for the good of ball. He's definitely QB1. Pretty good play. That's a fourth and five to win a national championship in Miami a mile and a half away from his high school. Okay, give it a ball. Give me the ball. It's the best play of the game. It's an awesome run.

I agree. Pretty good trait there. He wants the ball. He's like Belziator from St. Exactly. Exactly. But instead, he did have buckets before then. Right.

Numerous. A lot of buckets. No, he did it. All right. You're the best. Let's move along here. A couple other NFL questions from the boys. We think Ty Simpson will be a good NFL player.

We were pumped for Ty Simpson. We were pumped. Fernando Mendoza has earned the right to just be approved as the number one guy. We think. You do not think that? We understand? I think he's a good player. Got 29 days.

29 days this way. Maybe send some highlights of Fernando up to Dano, maybe some warm-up shots where he's hitting those intermediate shots. You know, turn signal might be on right now. Not 100% sure what you got going on. But we appreciate you coming in here and battling for your take. Because your take is one that's certainly going to make people happy, especially down there in Alabama.

And if Kaelin DeBoer has the number one overall pick, the number one quarterback, that'd be good for him down there. We'd be happy for him down there. What's that, Ty? I don't know if that'd be good for him. What do you mean? Jesus Christ, you had the number one pick in the drafts, and you got starched 38 to nothing in the Rose Bowl.

Get this guy the fuck out of here. Two Ties credit, they couldn't run the ball for shit. All year. And their own line was actually pretty bad. All year. And Ryan. You know how many rushing yards they averaged from their running backs per game? Two?

You know. Oh, you mean yards per carrier or just overall, yeah. No, per game out of their running back, 78. You know how much Indiana averaged from their running backs per game? 200. 180. That's a big-town football, baby. That's right.

That's right. How much cold games is there? Time Simpson's playing. Tell me that. How much money was spent on the Bama roster versus the Indiana roster? Yeah, it would be a good question, actually. Because everybody just says Mark Cuban. I have no idea.

Hundreds of it. He's not yet. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Unless that continues, keep going. Dana, we love you, man. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. Draft season's fun.

It's always fun. Any other Dan wagons happening that we need to know about? Any other ones? I don't think so Cole Peyton Who? Jeremy I love Stop calling him a damn wrong bet

I love Jeremy I love man I think he's an awesome player I think we're overthinking him We'll see I agree Dan's ball He's so pissed He's got the patting

This is how you know It's real though Because he pat's this much That's when it's like I gotta respect what he says I told you was real Yeah Dan we appreciate We do appreciate your

true genuine respect For the profession in which you have You know, because you're watching every film and you're telling your brain, man, if I say that, you know, everybody's going to, and your brain's like, you got to do it. You're right. You got to do it. It's on your film.

So we appreciate it. Well, I firmly believe if you are scared to be wrong, you will never strain to be right. And I like being right. I'm not always right. I've been wrong before, but I don't think you could be good in this business or great in this business if you're scared to be wrong. All right. Well, this business will certainly. decide for all of us, won't it?

You're our first pick, Dan. Hell yeah. You're our QB1, Dan. That's right. Yeah. Okay? Thanks. Stop crying. I don't know if you are, though.

Hold on. I just went through the whole thing. Like, if we're playing a game, we're fucking having air in his quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably fair. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, that is certainly happening. If he would play, which I guess is kind of the whole thing. Yeah, it's my quarterback. You mean, like, friends of the show? You know what? When's the game? Like, tomorrow, we need to know they answer right now? That's my quarter.

You're probably taking, I'd still take Aaron. I would take Aaron. What if we didn't know, though, if he was, you know? Because you might have no quarterback. We don't know if he's going to show up. You'll show up. Lombo at center.

I'll be there. I'm reliable. Lombo definitely in center. We think he would definitely show. Oh, you're right. Lomba guard. AQ is swing guard. We know he can play both.

Actually, AQ is playing tackle, though. Congress. He's out there. Dana, we know you're in shape. This guy was running interval sprints of 800 meters this morning. He was doing burpees and up downs. We appreciate your commitment.

I work out hurt. I work got hurt. So to this interview. All right. That's it. Thank you, Dano. We love you, man. Thank you for taking time out of your life.

You're the man. I love you guys too. All right, Dano. That's Danorloxki. He got pretty bummed up. He did. He got real hot there. He used traits for his tape early.

Thought he had something. It's like, well, we can find some traits stuff, can't we? Well, then he did. He was like, criticizing Mendoza for the Ohio State. Yeah, the points in the Big Ten, that is a weird hill. He must have not looked at Tye's last few games if he's going to play those.

Yeah, but he was hurt is what they're going to say, which is what we're kind of saying about Tye too. Like we don't think. Which we love him. The best version of Tye. Yeah, exactly. We like Tye a lot. But it's like the dude like crack. I mean, first play.

And that's a whole thing. And then he comes out. And that's Ohio State. It's like, I don't know. I saw a tweet, yeah, about this conversation. It's like, yeah, whatever, tape may be similar, but if Miles Garrett comes off the edge and hits Mendoza, he's not going to turn into a pink goo like Ty Simpson.

Well, we don't know. That's true. Tye's a tough guy. We like Ty. We like Ty. So if Tye's pick number two, I would be, that'd be great for the draft. It would be sweet.

We'd be pumped up for it. And that means some team really loved them as much as Dan Orlovsky loves them. We hope that happens. We just think that if you meet Fernando, talk to Fernando, listen to Fernando, and watch Fernando. it's like, this is a certified guy. Like, I just think he deserves a respect to being like, hey, this is a certified number one in this class.

But with that being said, is anybody certified any? No. Nobody is guaranteed anything. Tom Brady will decide. We got a scoreboard, so we'll see in a few years. I mean, who knows how long, you know, anybody lasts on a microphone, but we will be able to find out with this Ty Simpson run over. And we hope it's good, once again.

Dan Erlovsky's praying for it to be good. Yeah. Yeah, that is. what he's certainly looking for. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man from baseball. This man, 6'7. Sheesh.

Big son bitch. How thought was Randy? The big one? Big unit, 611. What? How close Paul? Skeen's probably? 6.5?

6.4, 6.5. So it feels like whenever they're up there on that mound, because the mound is elevated, you're just looking at watch yourself, a monster's up there. Yeah. And when that ball is coming out of the hand, especially with 6-7,

especially Hempbo sent us a stat, the guy that's about to join us. His steps, his, his, like, forward step thing. Long strider. His, he's so far. Like, the ball's still in his hand closer to home plate than, like, anybody since the tracking error. So that means we're still, we're almost Canadian. Touching the hog line.

Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's kind of what he's doing, the curling. Yep. You know, whenever they were fingering that thing late there, which was legal, I guess, Canadians. Do we have a final judgment on that? It was legal. The full rock never crossed the hog line. Oh, yeah.

That's why we won the gold medal in that one, boys. Oh, did you really? So the people that were being accused of cheating ended up winning the gold medal? Won legally the gold. Okay. Because the rock did not cross the hog line. Okay, so you're allowed to do that, is what you're saying. Maybe the Americans need to learn before the hog line touch,

because that's what this man does with baseball. I mean, he is that thing. All the hog line. All the way down there, off the dirt almost. Ladies and gentlemen, the ace, the opening day starter for the Brewers, which is Thursday at 205 Eastern against the White Sox. and gentlemen, All-Star, Mike Mizoroski. Yeah, Ms.

How you doing, dude? Jake, I'm sorry, Mike the Miz. Jesus. You're good. You're good. That's on me. You got the business. Yeah, you got the Miz.

Mike the Miz. I'm sorry, I assume you know him. You should know him. You're very similar individuals, world-class talents. I'm so sorry about that, Ms. now, let's move along here. We met you last year at the All-Star game.

And everybody was talking about how, you know, you're only five starts in. Shouldn't be that. You didn't care at all. It felt like you were a baseball player. I'll do whatever. We learned your story a little bit more. You leave Crowder, which is a juco. You were going to transfer to LSU. You get drafted, pick 63, get paid a couple million. You decide to go through the baseball ranks instead. Now your opening day starter for the bruce. Can you just tell me about the last couple years of your life in a nutshell? And do you feel like a 90-year-old because of everything you've been gone through to get to this point in your short baseball career thus far?

Yeah, I mean, it's been crazy. It's been a lot of fun, you know, going through it with my family and friends back home. But, no, it's, it definitely makes you feel, take some years off your life. But, no, it's been good. You had this joyful innocence last year whenever we talk to you. McGill also told us that's kind of how you are. And you throw absolute heat. What are the final thoughts going through brain while you're pitching or right before pitch?

Do you have final pitch thoughts or are you completely locked in blacked out whenever you're up there? Oh, it's blacked out. Yeah, we're just listening to our catcher back there, Bill, and, you know, going after it every pitch. So you, when do you black out? Is it during the pitch, during the entire inning? When you go on the field, you don't know what happens until you come back. You still don't know what happened out there or just during pitch to pitch. No, it's when you cross that line, you know, you kind of flip that switch and you kind of black out and do what needs to happen and you make it work. I love everything about that. I love everything about that. So that happened to me in my first couple years in the NFL when I was punning, and the snapper would get pissed off because he was like, where's the snap?

Where was the snap? I'm like, I have no idea, dude. I have no, it was it. It was in there somewhere. He's like, yeah, but where was it? I'm like, can we watch a replay? They're not going to show the replay of the pun. So I wasn't able to assist him.

For you, do you get coached up much whenever you're in the dugout in between innings? Are you talking about what just happened? Or are you just trying to pass time until the next time you go blackout? on the mound and throw absolute heat, I guess, 102, 100, 300, whatever the case is for every single pitch. Yeah, I mean, yeah, our guys in the dugout are awesome. Hook and Jim, they're, you know, they're always helping with little things, you know, maybe I'm not putting enough pressure on the backside, you know,

little things like that. But no, it's definitely waiting to blackout again and keep going. Hell yeah. I love that. Yeah, just waiting for the next blackout. That's right. Just wait. I mean.

Are we all? That is a wildlife, but for sports, believe that's called being in the zone. I believe that is what that is called. How many pitches do you have going in? Does everybody know how many pitches you have going in? And did you pick up any pitches this off season? I mean, like, are you saying like arsenal-wise?

Or are you saying like in the outing? Arsenal. Arsenal. Yeah, I got a fastball, curveball, slider, change up is new. Just started working on that again this off-season. So that's probably the one I'm bringing in. But, you know, I got the four-pitch, four-pitch mix. Pitching Ninja, I believe, gave you slider of the year

is what we learned during our... Congratulations. Hey, congratulations on that. He said change up is new. Tell me about that, because that's what, different... That's like different technique of holding the ball? Because I don't know baseball well enough. Your big thing is your V-Lo coming out

because you're doing the hawsel-nauzle on the curling thing with how long you want. The hog-line thing. So whenever... You know what I'm talking about. So is what? You just change the way you have to hold it because it has to look the exact same as the festival.

like how do you improve on it you've always had it was just kind of ask like how do you kind of just pick up new pitches what is it yeah i mean i mean it's kind of one of those things that you got to keep working on it and uh you know it's like the change it's like all the pitches are like the same you know you're just changing how you're holding the ball in your hand it's not really how you're releasing it's the same release point and same uh distance out but no it's how you're like grips on the ball so different things like that okay so there was a punt that the australians where they hold the ball sideways. It's called the banana punt.

And they were able to punt it up in the air. And when it came down, it would turn like this. Almost a guaranteed fumble for a returner if you're able to do it. But if you miss hit it by just a little bit, I mean, it's a four-yard punt potentially. So I didn't have enough courage to ever do it in a game. These guys are now doing it in games. It's unbelievable that they're doing. They're dancing with certain average destroyer and also in there.

Is there any pitches that you try in the offseason that you're like not ready for the big game, not ready for the show yet? shit that you think you will continue to add as your career continues to go that you're kind of still like tinkering with whenever you have time yeah of course i mean there's always something you want to improve on you know like the change up was that for years that was the pitch that i couldn't throw and you know all of a sudden it takes one bullpen you figure it out and you're like holy cow this is back like let's roll with it and keep going how about just one knuckle ball out there yeah oh did you imagine you holding on to that thing and then actually letting that that

I have no idea. That'd be incredible. Yeah. All right, just something to think about, I don't know what that would do to your arm, probably ruin it. Ty has a question for you, Ms. Yeah, Ms. What is your ramp up process like getting ready for opening day? Because I saw, I think it was like an interview maybe and someone was like, you know,

asking you about your velocity being down a little bit. And if you were worried about it and you basically said like opening day, pack stands, like, I'm going to be ready to go. It's going to be there. But when you are like you throw so hard, how difficult is that getting ready, knowing that you're going to be throwing 100 plus, 101 plus for a lot of your outings. And like where are you at right now? Where do you expect to be at on Thursday when you take the bump?

Yeah, I mean, coming Thursday, it's going to be full go. I mean, I'm going to be, you know, back to where I was in the postseason and chucking the rock like, you know, I want to. But, you know, the ramp up process is, it's long. You know, the offseason's grueling and there's a lot to it. You know, you can't go out and start throwing 105 from the, you know, the get-go. So, you know, there's a lot of bullpins that you're throwing in mid-80s, mid-90s. I couldn't throw a strike, Ms. Okay, I tried against Clayton Kershal. I just couldn't do it.

I threw one, I think. I think I threw one. One legit strike out of maybe seven, eight pitches. Your miss was arm-side high. Way high over this way. Way high. Do you, so when I punted, my miss was inside. Do you have a miss that you know about me? You have a miss. Armside high. Armside high. Yeah. In honor righty. Same thing. Yeah. What is that? Is that because a grip, what have you learned is the reason why that is? There's a lot to go into that. Like, you could be the landing spot. You're landing a little closed. You could be, you're not getting out far enough, you know, could be the grip.

Could be holding it a little bit different. You know, there's a lot to it. Yeah, I was trying to figure it all out too. I'm happy. I'm happy I wasn't the only one. You know, that was trying to figure it out. That's all us. It's all us big ball players. Tone has a question for you, Ms. Yeah, Ms. obviously a big thing coming to the season is the automatic balls and strikes being able to review those. Are you going, like, do you guys as the Brewers

have a rule or do you have a role as a pitcher? Are you going to be the one that reviews it? Are you going to let William Contreras, the catcher do the reviewing? How's that going to work for you guys? I believe for us it is off of Bill and William Contreras. But for me, there's not a chance in the world I could ever

see the zone and take a guess. I mean, I'm falling off the mound. I'm throwing a, you know, full go. So my head's moving all over. So no, I'm, hold on. So you, okay, this is interesting. So you don't know if the shit's a strike either. Those ones that are like kind of close? No, not even close. You know, Bill catches it well and he frames it. And I'm like, oh, that's there. And then I'm, you know, to find out I'm two inches off. And it's like, oh, I really thought that was in zone. Yeah. That little box thing has certainly been a nice toy. I think ums hate it, certainly. Yeah. Yeah. Especially, you know, when the entire world is

watching. I got a chance to watch Contreras. I don't know which one. Two Contreras is on the back. I think they were both talking shit to me. The way that the Venezuelans talk shit, though, so cool. I would just like to let it be known. I really enjoyed the Venezuelan culture. Oh, yeah. I assume there are many other cultures that are similar. I enjoyed the way they were competitive with me. He was nuking baseball. I mean, it was, they were hitting a back wall like somebody was literally just, like that Forrest Gump scene where he's playing ping pong

and the wall was up like this. That's what these contraris were doing during BP off the back of that thing. Does everybody smoke baseballs in that stadium? Because I was watching this thing and the contraris on being benched tonight, they said too. I'm like, thank God.

Get that guy the hell out of there. But with that being said, we became massive fans of baseball through WBC. Conman has a question for you. Yeah, Ms. I think we all wish you were on Team USA say for that little rum, but what did you think while you were watching? It felt as though, you know, it was fantastic for baseball as a whole. But what were your kind of thoughts as,

you know, Major League All-Star watching from home? Yeah, I mean, I thought it was electric. I think, you know, if that opportunity would have came my way, I definitely would have not hesitated to join the team. But, you know, the guys fell a little bit short and, you know, it is what it is. It's baseball. Ms. I don't like hearing what you just said there. Yeah, he should have been out there, man. Son of a bitch. I didn't know you could have been out there.

I don't know. I didn't know you could have been out there. I assumed that there were some of your young. We got a couple hundred billion dollars we got to make at some point. New ace of the staff. Can't be. Yeah, first day. You got to be with the boys.

Come on. I thought there was some sort of something. Well, next WBC, Ms. We need you dropping 110 out there. We need you. We need you that because we are going to be very loud. And I'll tell you, we haven't won it in a long time. No.

It turns out. And I believe the Venezuelans are the right group to have. I would like to say the right country to have it. They have seemingly really loved it, and baseball was fantastic with them, but USA needs to win that. And to do that, it feels like we should probably get the guy. What are you going to top out at, you think, in life? Has that been projected? I mean, what, the top pitch that they say, scientists say that a baseball can go is like 106 or something like that.

I don't think I'm good where I'm at, a 104.2 or three. Okay, so what is Matt Miller? Mason Miller, yeah, from Pittsburgh. He goes, what, 100? 101, 102. Yeah, the kid Seth Hernandez just won 102. He's hit 104. There's a kid for the Angels, Matt Joyce, who I think has hit 105 a couple times.

Most of you guys go in a hondo now, huh? A bunch of hondo boys, the younger guys? Yeah, it's actually crazy. The amount of college guys that are throwing 100 right now, it's insane. I mean, I remember when I was in junior college and, you know, that me hitting high nines was crazy, and now there's kids out there that are, there's like four teams. or thrown 100, so it's wild. Yeah, it is crazy.

Love it. It's a crazy thing that's happening. It's good for baseball. I assume it's because techniques are getting tightened up and obviously workouts and everything like that, let alone six foot seven monsters stepping up onto the mound and throwing it all that. You obviously already Ace, opening day ace and All-Star in your short career. We sure there are some moments that you'd like back.

Go ahead, D-Bud. Yeah, you hit the ground running. A lot of times we talk about like what was our welcome to the league moment. Did you have one of those kind of welcome to the show moments where like, oh, shit, I kind of caught you off guard. If you did, what was that? Yeah, we were, it's New York. We were playing the Mets.

And, you know, the game sped up on me. Kind of, you know, started feeling a little bit. And then all of a sudden Soto comes up and rocks a Homer and, you know, the rest is history. But it definitely sped up from there. Yeah, I can imagine. He does that to people. I mean, that is a heartbreaking feeling. I mean, that Bryce Harper, Dinger, just the way the person,

place exploded. I love the bat. How are you about with the bat tosses? Do it. I'm going to celebrate two when I get out of an inning, so go for it. You hit one off me, be my guest. Pimp that thing. Heck yeah. I like that. Because back in the day, what, somebody like you would say? It's that night. I'm going to hit this guy in the head and try to kill him. So we appreciate that. Thank you so much for joining us, man. Good luck on Thursday. And then also throughout the rest of the year. Hopefully you'll come back soon. Yes, of course. Anytime.

you said? Two or three. I can't remember, yeah. Okay. When would you start hitting 104 again? Like midseason now? Like when would you start hitting that again?

Actually. I mean, I'm hoping it's their opening day, but, you know, probably middle season, end of season. But we'll see. You go 104. I don't want to, I'm not doing that. No way. No, he's got it in the bag. You can do it.

I'm not going to be a part of this, actually. I'm not going to do that. We'll get $100,000 if you had $104. Miles and I don't know. There you go. The legend. Jacob Mizoroski. Yeah. I was called on Mike the Mizz again.

I apologize. I mean, we saw the graphic pop-up. It says the Biz. I'm so sorry. I don't know what I'm supposed to do there. But Jacob Miseroski, ace for the Brewers. Brewers are a good team.

Yes. They are. They have that coach too, right? Really good coach. Pat Murphy. That we like. Friend of the program. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. Brett Terang, too, who is one of our best players in the world baseball. Classic is their second baseman. Contreras. They're a catcher. We know Trevor McGill. We know a lot of guys. Okay, Brewers. Let's go. Like the Royals?

They are in the Pirates Division, though. That's the thing. They're projected. Them and the Cubs are projected to win it with Buccas, you know, right behind them. Well. Seriously. All right, let's go, boys. Are we back on the other side? We have Coach Kalapari joining us, and obviously A.J. Hawk.

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We thank you for allowing us to do that. We have no idea why you watch, but we're certainly grateful you do. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Baseball is saying, I like the Miz. Yeah, and he's also one of those guys very similar to Skeens, where it's like any time he's pitching it is appointment viewing because he throws so goddamn hard. And that slider we were talking about the pitching ninja, I mean, he's throwing that 94 miles an hour.

boy it drops off the table. $100,000 donation we'll make to a charity of his choosing if he hits 104 miles an hour on Thursday. If he doesn't, we will still be a fan and we will talk to him. If he throws his arm out of fun,

no, yeah, definitely not our fault. We'd like to be on the record that it is not our fault if he tries to throw it too hard too early in the season. I don't think you have to worry about that. He's a professional, this is on him. On that note, it's on us

to give $100,000 dollars to a charity of his choosing if he hits 104 miles an hour. What an electrifying start with that would be. Two or five in the afternoon, Guys throwing 104 on opening day? Yes, second game of the day. That's a baseball baby?

That's right. Hey, we're doing the baseball, baby? Mm-hmm. How about him saying he has no idea what the strike zone is? Yeah. Listen, when I'm throwing, I'm all over to... Yeah, it's a stray, I don't know. Bill's back here.

Nailed that. To hell with this umpire. And then all of a sudden he watches it back. Jeez, hell's nowhere near. So when that thing's coming out, it could be here, could be here. I mean, that's probably literally within centimeters the entire time. Paul Skeenzo, we were lucky to watch whenever he played here for the Indianapolis. They're the Indians.

That's what they are. That's their choice. Dary Dantan, the Indianapolis Indians. He was filling this place up. Obviously, we got a chance of watching whenever he was at LSU. That kind of captivated the entire college world series. This big monster, former Air Force guy throwing gas. Pittsburgh Pirates are about to draft him. He comes here to the Indianapolis Indians,

which are the AAA affiliate for the Pittsburgh Pirates, fills it up. We get a chance to be him. This dude's awesome. And he's seemingly locked in for baseball. Ms. the same exact way. They have young stars that are embracing their sport. Hopefully baseball is able to continue to run, okay? 162 games a long time.

I don't know if my gas is going to remain full for baseball for 162 games. That's what I was going to say, the caveat, because you guys are talking about how awesome the world baseball classic is, and it was, but I wouldn't be expecting that type of atmosphere, that type of pageantry, day one. Well, James Winston is going to be there. We know he will hype it. We are happy that James is there, college baseball player, too.

One half of the Hammer, Duff. Cowboys AP. Tone is here. Tone, March Madness lines obviously are what they are. what should we be betting on? Quick. I believe the answer is first five is what I've learned from the hammered down episode. Gopi and I like to do first five because you know who the starting pitcher is going to be, and you're basically betting on the starting pitcher.

You never know what the bullpen availability is going to be to an exact science. So it's easier as a gambler to handicap the starting pitching versus the starting lineup, and that's normally how we go. And on tomorrow night, it's Max Fried versus Logie Webb. Very, very good pitching matchup. The overrunner is only seven in that one, which is not surprising. the bats. Pitching normally has the advantage early in the season, especially if it is chilly outside. Yeah, not only if it's chilly outside, but if you're hitting a hundo. So I had a chance,

obviously, to speak to some baseball people throughout the world baseball class. And I guess the thing about hitters is those fast balls are tough to see early. Like the season goes, how it goes, for how long it goes for these hitters, because I guess sometimes 99, 100 is a little bit different than what you were doing in the off season. So early, if somebody, if he's thrown 104, okay, from my understanding from the world baseball classic the way people are talking nobody's going to have a clue unless they just get lucky in swing and hit that thing i think hitting early is tough especially against the gas and it feels like more boys have the gas right now than anybody else yeah and we saw we saw it during the wcc in the final and in the semifinals i think u.s.a on their own or whatever against

the minican i think struck out 50 times 15 times sorry and then obviously in the final against venezuela they did as well but venice not like venice yes there were some bombs but there was a lot of strike out strikeouts too i think you can expect a lot of strikeouts early in the season. And then home runs probably smart to bet on the WBC guys because they have seen very fast. Exactly, because they've been seeing those type of pitches. Oh,

they might be ahead of the schedule. Yeah, Judge Small perhaps. Yeah, Judge Oll. Against Logan Webb, who was just his teammate. Is that Roman Anthony hitting or no? He will be Thursday against the red legs and yeah, he's going to hit a dinger. Because I don't like the way WBC ended for him. That's a story arc that's coming.

Him being the last one, you know, youngest guy on the team. And then the next WBC is going to be more of a leader probably on that team, let alone the next one after that. You know, like the Roman Anthony's story is going to be a beautiful. The arc. Yeah, it's going to be incredible. And I'm certainly betting on Tony Tony's board a hit-a-dunger, nine-year NFL vet.

Darius J. Butler is here at D. D. Buck. D.Butch, March Madness is cooking, obviously. The NBA is making its way towards the playoffs. There's a lot of chatter and conjecture about everything that's happening there. Did you see what happened with the salary cap, Dibut? I did see what happened with the salary cap. I did see what happened.

It's an interesting. It's mixed reporting, it feels like. Yeah, but from what I saw, the final number, they'll be jumping up about 10%, which is like the max that the NBA salary cap can jump up. And I think there were a million off of projections, which whatever, what does that mean? Sounds like the business is doing well.

Me watching it now, obviously more since football is over, I think it's going to be a great playoff, which is when I really tune in. But they got stars. The NBA got stars. We always talk about leagues and the star power, and they definitely have the star power, especially with the old guard.

kind of moving on to Stephs, the KDs, the LeBron's kind of been in different areas of their career. Now you have Wembe's, K, Ant Man, Joker's still in his prime. So Luca, obviously, unbelievable. So that's a lot of big stars still on a big stage, so I can't wait for these playoffs to start. The million under-projected salary cap

was an interesting way to see, like, the news about it. Because I was like, man, not good to be going under salary cap. That's not good to be doing that. Then you see it jumped up like 11 million from this past year. It's like, it seems like a pretty healthy jump. The NFL had a $20 million jump, and everybody's acting like it's the biggest in the history. So they go up 11 or $10 million. I forget what the exact number was.

Good for the NBA, continuing to cash in. That Adam Silver NBA licensing deal that he got done with NBC and Amazon and obviously ESPN still has some. That number was gigantic. So I assume that that's only going to continue to go up for the players in a salary cap. They do have to figure out just everybody just buries the NBA all the time. It feels like the NBA just gets buried all the time. An issue like last night there was because we did it on Hammered down there's either nine or ten games last night Seven of them the spread was 12 points or more so like there's just so many teams that are so bad

It's there's a lot of uncompetitive games every single night But there's so many games. There's probably a good one in there somewhere yeah, but that's not really the wrong one It's a great year to be bad too. Yeah, it's a great year to be shitty. Why is that with the prospect coming up in the draft this freshman class class. Coach was on here a few weeks ago saying it was best freshman class that he's seen in a while. Best draft class overall. People are saying since like 03, we'll see how they pan out of the next level. But this is a good year to be shitty.

Yeah, the NBA fast, every time I turn on a game, I'm so, it's almost like I'm watching a spectacle. Because you've got guys that are 6 foot 8 doing. Wembe, what, 7 foot 12? Whatever he is doing the entire thing. And then whenever there's maximum effort happen, you can find some magic in there. You know, now the team's tanking. a narrative not good for the league. You know, if teams in your league are actively trying to lose.

That was almost happening with the Miami Dolphins that came out, and that was a narrative that they were trying to play. No, our teams are never trying to lose. In the NBA, it has worked for teams. So it's like an interesting strategy that is probably tough night-to-night con, man. Usually with the NBA, this is the story. Like there's eight teams maybe that can go on and win the title at the beginning of most years. There's great stories like the Pistons that come on and become the one seat,

and that's awesome too. But it's all about the playoffs. You mentioned the MLB not being able to have that juice. Don't worry, because May and June, that's when NHL and NBA playoffs happen. Like, those are those months. Like, that's when those seasons go. And even for the playoffs, like, the first round of the NBA playoffs sometimes is so lopsided because the top-tier talent is so much better.

Now, you just mentioned the NHL, I don't know if you've heard. Oh, I've heard. Pittsburgh Penguins are weighing the Lord Stanley Cup. They're rolling right now. Have you heard about that? Mm-hmm. Okay, good. I didn't know.

I was just saying that to see if. I mean, Crozby's back. I saw Geneal Malkin score a goal. like he was 24 years old. That's what I'm talking about. The standings, the East playoff race is the most absurd thing that I've. There's eight teams, I think, within one point in the East. It's so.

And now is the really cool part where like college kids. Are you saying NBA or any? NHHA. Okay, all right, okay, all right. NBA, there's no close race. I didn't know where you were. Yeah, okay, the NBA, there's no close race. No, no.

NHL East in hockey. Everything. Okay, good. Yeah, and that's what we're talking about. The pens are about the way at all. joining us now as a man who won college football national champion Super Bowl championship and a Ryder Cup

challenge against a European celebrity ladies a gentleman A.J. Hawker I don't know if you knew that about puck but Sidney Crosby and the boys playing like it's 05 again you know 0 and 9 again I see it pop up hey good for the pens good for Sid it's good for NHL if he is playing well but honestly you know earlier in the show you said you're all in on baseball

you can't wait for the season to start and then three minutes ago as I'm connected I hear you said I don't know if I got the gas We haven't had opening day yet, man. I know. I know. I was just... I believed you.

I believed you earlier in the show and I saw you say, you know, I think I'm in. This is it. Well, Ty just gave me the brutal reality is, I don't think the brewers are playing Venezuela on Friday. Yeah, correct. Or Thursday. Playing white socks.

They're playing the Chicago white socks. And they stink. So I'm a little bit worried that I'm not going to get the Poncha experience, which is what I fell in love with. I fell in love with what baseball was. I fell in love with how I feel. felt when Bryce Harper, that boy who was ice cold through all of WBC, found his moment in the sun for the United States of America.

Tuned up the band. Yep, that's right. And then he, boom. And then he, the backflip was just so awesome. Every other country had been able to do that because they had that moment. We hadn't had that moment yet. I just felt, holy shit, ponche, no more. You know, I'm doing the whole thing.

We're high five. It's standing on seats. Oh, yeah. I'm standing on seats. that moment was like I've never fucking felt that as a fan I don't think I remember ever feeling that

I'm like baseball is awesome and then Ty was like you're not going to be seeing the same environments as that it's like oh yeah I'm gonna see fucking empty stadium I'm gonna see shadows coming because the sun's going down at a weird time this isn't a primetime game

it's not a matinee game it's like a mid-afternoon game asking nobody to come to the game because everybody's got to work so then I'm gonna watch it and I'm gonna fall out of love with it and then I'm gonna watch these pictures I'm not gonna see a single

triple digit. I'm going to say, well, am I watching here? Then I'm going to see the strikes. I'm not moving. I'm worried that is going to happen. But on that note, we'll worry about that another day. We got the Mids 205 on Thursday, and we got Logan Webb tomorrow night on Netflix. That's right. And Aaron Judge is playing. That's right. And Paul Skeen starts off Thursday. And the Uso's.

Thank you. Nobody's talking about that. You should be talking about. Blazing. I didn't say that. That was Tony. That's your problem, Tony. Day one-ish, dude. Okay, it's just them. Oos. We get it.

Raw's on Netflix. A baseball game's on Netflix. They don't have to be together. Bert does comedy on Netflix. He doesn't have to be at the baseball. Bert will make it a lively affair, though. Bert loves ball, okay? Yes, he does.

So why not have them there? To spread the love of the game. I will say this from doing highlights. Netflix does have the best cameras. Okay. See? Maybe we just wait, and maybe we let them see what they're going to do. The Christmas Day games always have the best.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man. Pogues to show up. We need Alconnell climbing. Yeah. What about East? The foul pool. The foul pool. Yeah, just hanging the whole time.

No hands, actually. There you go. Seth Freakin got locked up. They got the bay back there, so he could, there's an idea. Maybe Seth freaking jumps off McCovey Cove. Or does a quick game. Is this tomorrow night? Yeah.

Okay. Everybody write these down. Let's send them in. Okay. You got ideas. Go listen. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man, Paezan. Yins are Paezon, great.

He's been listening in the last five minutes. I'm excited to hear his thoughts on all the things that we've been talking about as we're potentially distracting his mind from focusing in all something that he's done his entire career. Ladies and gentlemen, coaching the Arkansas men's basketball team who just a couple years ago had nobody on the roster. Now, back-to-back Sweet 16s and a chance to upset a team that everybody thinks can go on a run.

Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Wu-Pakes silly basketball boys. John Kyle Porry. Yeah, Coach. All right, coach. Good, Pat. How are you? We had to talk about baseball there for a second. Sorry, we got into a little bit off topic.

We knew you... You talk about the pens, though. You've got to talk about the pens. Come on now. Sidney Krazzi's back. My Pittsburgh brother. Yeah, come on. The pens might win it this year, Coach. You can start talking that shit.

I know you're focused on basketball right now, but know that the pens can win it. So whenever you get into conversations about hockey, You can immediately go, we're back, you suck, everything like that. So just know that you're comfortable doing that. Let's talk about your team, though. I mentioned it there. We had a chance to talk to you, obviously, when you took the job at Arkansas,

and everybody was kind of surprised that you went to Arkansas for basketball. Obviously, the SEC good for hoops, but nobody expected to see legend you there. You joined us. You got nobody on the roster. You said we have actually no players. From that point until now, you said he wanted to help 30 families, I think, is what you're thinking. How do you feel about the program that you've obviously got up and running in a big way? And how do you feel about being Arkansas basketball hero kind of at this stage so quickly in it all?

Well, I'm not a basketball hero there, but, you know, Must did a pretty good job now before he left. And you had Coach Richardson, Coach Sutton, this place has had Hall of Famers coach there. And so you kind of stand on their shoulders. But we rework the team. And now I've got some guys. You know, for me, the best. best compliment that I get and what I'm looking to do is when they say, I knew Darius A Cuff was good, but I didn't realize he was this good. I didn't realize Malik Thomas. I knew he's good,

not this good. I knew TB could play, but not like this, Billy Goat. Wow. I knew he was good. DJ, he impacts your winning as much as anybody, coach. I love hearing it. Those are the things. here we go with leak. Okay, leak now. Are you calling highlights? I like this, Coach. I like you're calling highlights with boys. I'm not even looking.

I don't know what day it is. But let me just say this. I've had a ball. We've had a heck of a year. But look, the greatest thing doesn't matter what I've done in the past, what the team has done this season. You're not going to have the next game to make adjustments so we can win the next one.

It's this game. And they are, Arizona is really good. They deserve their ranking. They got all those wins. They're huge. They bully ball. They score it. We kind of foul the same.

They shoot 1.5 more shots than we do from the line. So we're kind of the same. Their fouls. That should be kind of even. But they go and rebound in. They're physical. But, you know, the things that we do, we shoot the three better, the assist to turnovers, we get more assists, less turnovers, those things.

This will be someone's will against someone else's will. Arizona's good, and they're strong, hard, hard game to play. Okay, so let's talk about you talking about what you think your team is better than the other. Is that what you're reminding your team? Is that why you think you're a good tournament coach? Because we have Coach K on now throughout March Madness here. and it always goes back to seemingly the way he talks about the coaches, the coaches, the coaches. And it feels like during March Madness, we do see the better coaches kind of rise to the top every single year.

Your record in the Sweet 16 outrageous. Petino's record in a Sweet 16 outrageous. All the coaches that are like the legendary coaches, this is why they are so legendary is these moments right here. What is it you think about the way you coach your teams that have them prep for the biggest stages in college hoops? I've got really good players. And all I've got to do is convince them that they deserve it. I had individual meetings yesterday to hug them and say, I just want you to know how proud I am and how much I appreciate.

This is going to go so fast all these, the rest of these games that I may not get a chance to give you a hug and tell you, I appreciate you. And just in this stage, be who you are, go for it. And so, you know, I mean, we're all trying to build up our team. If I have to be anything other than a cheerleader in this game, we ain't winning. I got to be a cheerleader. I got to just tell them, you're fine, keep playing.

And then just keep going. You're good. But you've got to have plan A and B. You know football is no different. All right, we planned on this, but that ain't working. We've got to change something here to do it. They're really big, high-low basketball, creating high-weigh. ways, offensive rebound

where they shove you under the basket. But they're their way, we play how we play. Let's be our best and hope it's good enough. We don't need to try to be somebody else. Last question for me before all the boys have questions for you. You're a legend

for joining us, especially we know how busy you are at this exact time and how big it all is for you. Tell me about A-Cuff. This guy's awesome. You just signed with Riebock, just sign with AI. We're pumped to see that. We love the fact that AI is going to be mentoring him, probably for the rest of this, let alone you in his life forever. I've obviously known about him a long time. I remember coming out of high school, this guy had one of the greatest crossover, mid-range

jumpers of all time. And then at the beginning of this season, I remember seeing him play a lot of basketball. And it wasn't until just very recently maybe I had my eyes on the most. And it's like, wow. I had no idea this guy existed. Why did I not know that this guy was playing college hoops? He's special. fun. He looks like a throwback, it feels like, coach. Can you tell us a little bit more about

A-Cuff and how big of a dipshit I am for not knowing that this guy's been playing hoops all college basketball season? Yeah, pretty big. But here's what I would say. Here's what I would tell you. He is a gym rat. He loves the game. Nothing else matters to him. When he got hurt, you guys will love this. He got hurt, and he had to play 50 minutes. against Alabama in a two-overtime game, and he had like 50 points. We got back, and I said, I'm not going to play you next game. You need to rest that ankle. He looked at me and said, we just lost.

I'm playing. And he walked out of my office. So at the end of the year, I did the NBA load management before we played Missouri. He could have played, but I said, take it off. It's not mattering. Just let get healed, because we need you in our tournament. And then the next one. And he's played outstanding.

I didn't know if it was the right thing to do, but I felt it was. And he's responded. Here's what he's learning, how to lead, how to create for his teammates. He's understanding, like he can, he can defend all this stuff. He's not a good defender. Look, he'll tell you what the guy he guarded, scored. Like, he'll say, you know, hey, he was one for eight. What are you talking about?

So, but he's got a lot of courage. You got Malie Thomas. another freshman, both of them, I don't know if this happens in football or other sports, that otherworldly confidence. Oh, yeah. Like, you can't tell them, neither one of them. If I say something, what the heck, you can't, you know, they're like, I'm good. It does not phase them because they both know how good they are because they're both

gym rats and they live in there. And so now we, you know, we're down in numbers. No one's right and we're kind of beat up. We're playing five and six guys. Hell yeah. So in the warm-up line, we only have one ball, but that's okay. I mean, you know, here we go. Let's see what we do.

It's a long season. Obviously, this is the most important part. But we just mentioned A-Cuff and being special. Here's a HEMBO stat. I don't know if you know this. Hembo, obviously, ESPN stats, I'm going to say God, but kind of guru. Guru.

A-Cuff has scored 60 points. Second most by an underclassman in his first two career NCAA tournament games. Other than who? Steph Curry. That's pretty good. I think that's worked out pretty good, I think. I think that has worked out.

And having a signature shoe with AI, who I coached when we were in Philadelphia, and I love him. He and I have stayed in touch. I got about 10 guys that have signature shoes, and you know I have them all in my office. Yeah, yeah. You know, we have 13 all-stars, two MBPs, six billion in salaries. I mean, and the guys I have on this team. Billy, they're going to be NBA players

because they deserve to be. Now they got the challenge of their lives with Arizona. Tommy's done an unbelievable job with his team. And so we're going in like, let's go. Let's see who we are. Probably have to make adjustments as the game unfolds because how they're going to play and seeing what they'll do defensively to us

because we're a good offensive team. We score 90 a game. And so they'll probably do some different things we'll have to see. Okay, so let's talk about you having to manage different things. Go ahead, DeBud. Yeah, so obviously this is March Madness in Arizona. It's all about that. But this is a little bit away from now.

You just mentioned some of these great players that you've coached. How do you manage, like, a player chasing history? One of your former players, bam, he just scored 83 in the NBA. And I heard you say, I've got 12 guys in the NBA who have scored 50 points. And all of them would say I held them back. So when the player is in that mode, like, how do you balance if the game's in hand? Do I let him chase his history or is it all about the win or resting or whatever it is? How do you balance that as a coach?

You know what's crazy that these kids will know they will do whatever it takes to win a game so we can survive. Last game, High Point, was really good. Pat didn't watch the game because he was watching hockey or something. I watched it. The game was really a good game. And at the end, Billy, I know Darius made his shots, but the reason he could make those shots is Billy had two steals and two ridiculous rebounds, one block. And I said, where did it come from? He said, I just didn't want it to end that way.

I mean, so I did whatever I had to do. And that's why if you have a bunch of really good guys, they're not worried about themselves. It's my job. What do I have to do? what's my job. And then they're going to have to make plays. I mean, we've had it all year where guys have done, and it's always somebody different.

Trevin Brazil, some guys that I'm offered this, and I said, well, you should go there. If you want to come with us, we've had 80 players drafted, we had 50 first round draft picks. We've had, should I keep going back? Yes. We had 12 guys that scored 50 in the NBA. We've had another 15 that scored 40 or more.

We've had 13 all-stars, 45 all-star games. We've had, ready, seven in one all-star game. They're only 24. Seven of them played for us. And last year, we had six. So if it's all about money, you've got to go. We're going to be fair. You're going to be well taken care of.

But someone else may be more desperate and offer you more. Then go there. If you think, I just keep coming back. Don't trip over Nichols trying to get the $200 million. Does that make sense? Absolutely. People are making penny decisions whenever we're talking about, you know,

Benjamin's taking place in here. Yeah, I understand. It happens everywhere, brother. Yeah, it happens everywhere. And you should see the people that... Did I say the guys made $6 billion?

Yeah, yeah. You said that earlier. I was trying to lead you back into it, but your fucking ass just kept going to... 45 All-Star. Who is seven in this? Yeah, I try to get you to the real one. Six billion, brother.

That's where... That's where we want to head this train towards of self. Hey, yeah, this is what I do stuff. Yeah. You're a legend, dude, in the game. That's what we learned whenever we got a chance to chat with you, whenever you took the Arkansas job. It was like, I want to change 30 more families is how you described it.

And that was like a crazy way to look at. Like, I didn't expect, like, how many championships will come if I take care of 30 more families. And it does feel like that is what your players say about you as well. And a lot of your players doing very well on TV right now. It feels like we got a good basketball IQ kind of happening everywhere. On that note, they are smart. Yes.

They are smart. It feels like. Let me tell you, we brought in three, five star players for next year. But right now you're like if a bunch of these guys get drafted, now I got to figure out, is any coming back? How many? What are we doing in the portal? You know, what, how do we? It's like normally when the season ends, my toes are a.

In the war on the Jersey. shore. I can't do that anymore. The season ends. Okay, we got to rebuild our team. You heading to the Italian Bahamas, the Jersey Shore is my favorite thing that I've ever in my life. But on that whole note there, tone has a question for you. Yeah, coach, this is the second straight year, the second time ever, that it's all major conference teams in the Sweet 16. And we've talked a lot about how, you know, these mid-major guys, they perform really, really well. And then because of NIL,

they go up to these major conference teams. Does that make the competition harder because all of the talent keeps rising to these teams? So I don't want to say there's like no Cup Cape games or whatever, but all of the major talent is now on all these major conference teams. Does that make it harder to win? It does, but here's the issue. We're letting 27 and 28-year-olds playing college basketball.

If you want to be a pro, go pro. There should be an age limit, 25. We're letting kids transfer every year. Every day. Well, they can transfer four to five times. Can't have that. And who it hurts the most are the, I couldn't have done what I did at UMass and probably not at Memphis in this environment. Probably couldn't have. Because there are, when you're hard on kids and you make it uncomfortable and you challenge them and you're truthful, they want to leave. I'm leaving. I'm out. So now you got to know, we got to do. You want to transfer once without penalty. If the coach leaves, leave. That's fine. But after those transfers, you've got to sit out a year.

One, it helps them academically. They can't go to four different schools in four years and get a college degree. They can't. And if they're still in college, it means they're not pros. Or you'd be in the NBA. And so what I'm trying to say is, let's get some guard. I don't care what they make. Figure it out.

figure out what we're paying them that's not a coach but transferring how about this one these collectives I'm throwing this out for your 10 million people or 20 million however many you have

I like the way you talk about our shit like you talk about your own shit I don't know if ours is real but yours might be yeah yours is real but how about these collectives that are on campus they can only be involved

with current players who have been on campus a year, then you can do whatever. I don't care how much you pay him. Because that's like the bird rules. The home team gets to pay more. So now the kid would stay. You can't be involved in recruiting.

You can't be involved in the portal. You can't make, but the kid on campus who has established himself for a year and wants to stay, let those collectives pay them. Yeah, you can qualify for it. You can even put like a B or C, need a C or better.

Or be your, like you can make it a qualify. for that entire thing. Now, I don't know how that would go for basketball practice, you know, or what the majors are over there in Arkansas. And I don't know if that would have been great for me as a student athlete, but I like the fact that you're saying, let's go ahead and allow these collectives that want to give money to athletes to make our athletic teams better.

Let's let them do it, but let's have them qualify for it, not just before you even step foot on campus, collect this thing, and then who knows what's real on either side there. It is, it's pretty chaotic. And we're learning through Coach Kay and you now that all the football shit's happening in basketball, We're all having the same shit, I think, right? Isn't that kind of feeling the same way?

Every coach in every sport is challenged by this. Everyone. And we're all going through the same thing. And let me say this. It falls on the coaches. It's not on the presidents. It's not on the ADs. Because if it was, this would be fixed already.

All right? It's not been fixed. And they say about, well, they'll take us to court. Let them. Sometimes it's good to be sued. It's, you know, you're like, okay, sue us. We're worried about, would you really want your son to go to four different schools in four years? How do you even get to know the coach?

How do you establish who you are? How do you get it? And it's all based on money. So let's take care of the kids when they're there and they do well. And I like what you're saying. Maybe there's certain things they got to do that they are eligible for this. And then let that part of it go because you're not in recruiting and you're not. not doing transfers.

You're only doing your own players. And those kids deserve it. If they want to stay, take care of them. All right. In all the sport. I appreciate. Baseball, football, softball, all of them. You need to be in that room next time when they do the round table.

When they go to the round table, yeah, they're at the White House because I believe. I was invited. I was invited. I had a game. Sorry. I had a game. They said, well, why don't you miss the game?

I said, are you not? You wouldn't want me in the room if I would miss a game. to go to that room. Yeah. Like, you wouldn't want me to be a person with a opinion if I was willing as a head coach to skip a game to go to a meeting. Like, that's not the type of person you would want in there. You made right to say, hey, gratsy, gratsy in that entire thing.

It sounds like, though, you're saying, hey, we're in a position where we're able to pay. It sounds like you have a salary for your guys. Like, hey, this is what you make whenever you're on our team. You try to figure out what you have. And if you're only paying eight guys, you can do it. If you're trying to pay 12 guys, 15 guys, you better have double to the money. So the only issue becomes if someone gets hurt,

now all of a sudden, like right now we're down to six guys. That becomes a little bit of an issue. Hey, why don't you get your old ass in there? I think you're allowed to play now with these college rules. You go bop the work. I'm working out. I know that. I don't have the T-shirts like you where you can see the dead area.

That's what he's doing. I just show watching. Yeah, what do you have? What do you have? Let's see it. Let's see what it is. Go ahead. You've got to get it on the screen there.

Oh, look at that. Yeah, yeah. Pittsburgh people, man. So obvious. So obvious. AJ has a question for you about the guys you're trying to find in your culture. Go ahead, man. Yeah, coach, you mentioned how some of your younger guys have that other worldly confidence

that you mentioned. I guess, can you think of any players in the past that you've had that kind of came in with that? And is it something you could coach into somebody? Is it possible to give a player and kind of cultivate that? If they have to build that themselves. If it takes me to build them up, the minute I get on them, it tears them down. If they build their own confidence, there is nothing I can say that affects it other than maybe try to make them mad so they play harder or sit them down because they're not listening.

Other than that, I mean, those guys, the biggest thing I can tell you, the guy, the guy, that came with us and were gym rats, the Tyler Heroes, the Shays, I mean, Bams, I can go on and on Brandon Knights back in the day. Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd, I don't want to, see, I shouldn't have started that. But those guys live, live. I walked in one morning and Tyler Hero was sleeping in the locker room on a chair because he didn't want to walk across the street to the lodge. He just said, I just stayed and I just decided to stay.

He called me about Darius and he said, does he live in the gym? They all want to know because they understand if that's not who you are, you're never going to be an all-star. You're never going to be able to score 40 or 50 in that league. Was Tyler like that in high school? Yeah, he was wired a little different because he thought, you know, he had a chip on his shoulder, lack of respect and all that stuff. You know what I'm saying?

So he was going to prove himself. Yeah, we do. And he has. And Bam wasn't known that way. And Bam did some things for us that I, I'm like, man, I didn't even know he could do some of this stuff. And when he scored 83, come on. I don't care if you're in the gym by yourself. Try to score 83 points.

It takes you two hours. Put a clock on. Run the clock. See if you can get it. Yeah, I appreciate that. Bam, I love that it happened for him. Yeah. That came out of nowhere.

As a guy who watches every basketball game, me, me, every basketball game that happens, I am watching it. Coach, you know that, preparing for this type of thing. When Bam's name popped up as I was watching the game was not a headline. I was watching the game live, obviously. But when the headline popped up and reminded me that that had happened, I did not think Bam out of Bios name would be the one with 83 points. And then it's like, well, he's the second guy ever scored 10,000 for the Miami Heat.

I'm like, BAM's just been getting buckets down there in Miami forever. I guess that is what has been happening? Oh, yeah. Because it's not, what, Celtics or because it's not, LeBron, it's not really like storyline? Is that kind of how BAM's been down there? Yeah, he's been a very, very good player from Miami. He's represented team USA multiple times. And if you ever hear stories about heat players, they always mention BAM,

being a gym rat, kicking ass on one-on-one. So it was great for him to happen. And then if you know his story and his background, how he came up, you'll be even happier for him. So it was crazy to hear all the hate that came from it. Like you have a game like that. He was doing that first quarter, the first half, the third quarter, before the other shit at the end of the game.

Like, yeah, if you're going to go get 83, go get it. Yeah, who's his coach in college? How about this one? I got to tell you, do you know the picture he has on his wall in his house? The trailer that he and his mother lived in. And it's big. He walks in, he is reminded. everybody tells me he's not changed he's the first in the gym he's into it he's a that's what the

heat that's their culture if you're not that guy you cannot be with the heat you don't fit what a stud good for ban hey bam good for you man that's history that's a real history forever history there in that entirety good for him earning that okay so let's talk last question here about your current team conman has it for you yeah coach uh when you look around the sweet 16. And granted, you're locked in, you got Arizona, and I don't want to call you old because you look great and your hair is phenomenal. But there's a lot, you're Italian,

of course, so it's going to last. But there's a lot of veteran coaches left. You know, Patino, Samson, yourself, Izzo, Barry. Is it kind of cool seeing, you know, as much as we've just talked about how college sports and college basketball has changed, that kind of the old firm is still holding

strong and, you know, carrying the torch. And when you look around at the other guys, too, do you see a new era of great you know, Shire, Hurley's kind of a in-betweener, the guy at Arizona, like there's kind of another era of great coaches coming up? Yeah, there are, and those guys, I always say, you know, I'm giving my opinions, but you've got to have some 40-year-olds giving their opinions of where they want this game to go.

The guys that you mentioned all have respect for each other. Tommy Isler and I've talked throughout the tournament. Mark Few and I've talked throughout the tournament. I mean, when you're talking that, group of guys. You know, we all been through the same kind of stuff. We've all been fired. You know, we've all made it through.

And we also are not afraid to hold kids accountable. We're not afraid to make kids uncomfortable. And, you know, just seeing what's going on, you know, we got Sean Miller here. I mean, what he's done in Texas and now they're here in the Sweet 16, how about they win two here and he's in the final four? I mean, the greatest thing about this tournament, there's not best of three. It is one game. Nothing else matters what you did or what's ahead. It only matters what goes on.

And like I said, we're playing a team in Arizona. Everybody knows. They may be the best team in the country. But it's one game. Let's go play and see what happens. You're the best. We'll talk to you soon. Good luck the rest of the way.

Thank you for taking time. You're the best, man. You are the man. I can't wait until you have a chance to put those toes in that Jersey beach over there. You know, and just really have yourself a day. I don't know what type of gabagool is coming through. I don't know what type of Fazoli's coming out. But I do.

What? No Fazoles. That's not true. They're lining the board one. Fuzzles and Bugit de Babel baby. Guarantee he doesn't even know what that is. He lives in Kentucky and Arkansas. He knows what Fazoles is for sure.

For sure. Yeah, he does. Yeah, exactly. Ladies of gentlemen, that's coach Jean-Calfour and Graci. Grazie, Garzzi, Garza. He knows Fizzles. Come on now, no, he doesn't. He's just laughing.

He knows fast food Italian, for sure. Fast food at Thai. Guy had a corner table at Bucca. What do you mean? Fazzolese has a drive-thru and it's Italian. Fizzolese has a Michelin star last I checked. I don't think so. It's unbelievable.

A Michelini star. Yeah, well, I mean, I didn't know what Fizzolese was. You're right. I didn't know what Fizzolies was until I moved to this dumpster of Italian food of a town. Whoa. I, uh, whoa. Geez, Louise. I'll tell you what, those, those breadsticks.

Oh, my God, piping hot. I don't know how they do it. I don't. No, I don't know. No, I don't garden. Oh, G's will hold it down, too, for you. I don't talk about it down. O.G.'s a step above you.

Yeah. O.G.'s is a place that was certainly, how's O.Gs doing? Is O. Remember, they weren't a lot. We weren't a lot of new OGs there for like a month and a half. That's right. What happened? I think OGs got canceled there for about maybe a week. You guys are watching the wrong television channels.

I was on the internet. I don't know. More than all of them in that garden. Yeah, but I was excited to get back in there and get the bottomless breadsticks and soup. Yeah, I was excited to get back to him. We're going to do some journalism here, AJ. How do you feel about it? I feel great about it.

You know, I think if not us, then who? Yeah, I'd agree. A massive thing happened. Like a massive thing happened. The NFLPA is the Players Association, the Players' Union. For a long time, the Players Association, if you asked the Players Association, If you ask the Players Association, they'll show you a video of how important they are. Obviously, at one point, don't laugh, H.

Please. Not, yeah. You've watched the same video I've watched. Anyone showing a video to show you how important they are? That's a tough watch, I think. Okay, so on that note, AJ, myself, many other like-minded people like us have had questions about said union for a long time. You know, there's just interesting decisions. You're never going to get everything right.

Obviously, the NFL has billionaire, uh, lawyers that are negotiating on their end. The union's never going to be able to really keep up from a law talent perspective. But if they did have the talent for the lawyers, they would actually get picked up in the middle of the negotiation and taken to the NFL side for the negotiation. So the NFLPA in most players' unions are fighting an uphill battle for sure, regardless in every single business. But they're a very important bunch.

They're a very important crew. And the NFLPA has elected a former player to be the executive super duper guy. That's right. Okay. This guy sat as the super duper player guy, but there was never a player that was the super duper duper duper doper top. Okay, always ex-lawyer, always ex-CFO, something like that. And there's certainly been stories.

I don't think anybody's been perfect in any player's union across any sport, which leads to a lot of like-minded people like us going like, I'm about sick of these people making decisions for me. So I don't think it's an easy job. I don't think it's a fun one. But I do know we have somebody that's very passionate, about it, who's about to be leading the NFL PA, at least into its next CBA negotiations, which are going to be worth billions of dollars.

Ladies and gentlemen, former NFLPA president, now executive director of the NFLPA, a man who was a fourth round draft pick in 2013, played nine years in the NFL, and wow, he looks incredibly skinny now. He's ready for all the suits he's going to have to wear. Ladies a job of, J.C. Treader. Yeah, Jay-C. Super suit, super suit. Super suit.

Super suit. I'm crazy. Jack. How do you go live and do it? Super suit. You want a Peloton? Are you a big Peloton guy? Yeah.

Good to see you, JC. Okay, didn't go shake your guys' hands. That's fine. No, no, no, not in politics. Hey, listen, you're in politics world now, bro. Yeah, yeah, shake my fist. Politics world, got to do that. There's no babies to kiss, so I've thrown off a little bit.

I understand. I respect that. I appreciate that. Okay, J.C., thank you for joining us. Obviously, there has been massive conversation about you taking the role in which you are currently sitting in. So did I describe that accurately where we've always had a player that's like president of NFLPA, but normally it was somebody who has some sort of legal skill set or other skill set that is actually head of NFLPA. They're the ones kind of guiding everything. You now former player as super head of entire thing. how do you feel? Is that an honor that you obviously weigh pretty heavy? And why did you decide to do this? Because I read that you didn't want to do this, I believe, like a year ago. So if you could kind of just start from there, and then we'll kind of roll off of that. Yeah, the first executive director was Gene Upshaw, which was a former player. Started there. And then we've had non-players be executive directors since. Why I wanted to do it, I've loved the work of the NFLPA. It's not easy work. It's been a passion of mine. I went to school for Indeastern.

or labor relations, which is the study of unions and labor organizing. So it's something I've been passionate in college. Okay, okay. Where did you go to school? Cornell. Okay, all right? So that would, you would probably, if you weren't a former player, fall in line with a human that would get an interview for said job. Yeah, I say that my mom is probably the only mom of a football player that was disappointed. I was drafted. She wanted me to go to law school. So it was a disappointment when I,

when I decided to play football instead of go to law school. Okay, so you are a suit in a football bar. You can say that. I do like the super duper head guy. I might change the title of that. Okay. Okay. Now we're brainstorming.

Now we're kind of brainstorming. But when it comes to what, you know, I did say, I didn't want the job at one point. And I did step away from the union last summer. And when I stepped away, it gave me time to reevaluate what I wanted. And as I took time away, it realized how much I really do love the job and love the mission and love the guys. And very few times you get to work for the good guys. And I think that's one thing we get to do.

We get to work for the players that don't get everything they truly deserve, and that's something we want to fight for. And having the opportunity to come back and fight for that is something that's important to me. How many years did you work with the NFLPA before you stepped away? I was four years as president, and then nine months as chief strategy officer. So it was like five years-ish. And then you stepped away for how many months? Nine months.

Okay, then you missed the game, said you want to get back into it. While that happens, we're also trying to figure out who the next super-duper head guy is. Yeah. Okay, I assume players, how do you end up getting the role that you get? the executive committee does the vote. How do you end up getting the role over maybe somebody else who wants a Cornell in labor relations that likes Ball was potentially wanting to get the gig or any of the other candidates that were potentially qualified? Yeah, executive committee was the search committee.

So they run the search. So it was a nine month or eight month search process. They hired Turnkey, which is an outside search firm that helps cultivate candidates and look through what's available out there. And obviously I wasn't part of the search other than my one one hundredth of it of being a candidate. but I applied, send in my information. They went through rounds of interviews, ended up bringing three finalists to the board, and that's every locker room votes in their board of player rep

that is in charge of making decisions on behalf of their locker room. So we were in San Diego. We interviewed in front of them, asked tough questions, got to know all three finalists, and then they made their decision. I saw Mr. Jones, who would work with the NFLPA for 18 years, I think. I did not know who he was,

but it seems like a lot of people respected him. He talked to Pablo Tori, and it felt like there was a little bit of a negative reaction to you becoming the role that you have. I didn't listen to the entire thing. And we, Pablo Tori is going, by the way. We, he has courage to go. I mean, I think that's good for society is what people say.

We, God bless him for that. But I did hear that there was, and read some of the headlines about the backlash, you know, that was kind of happening with you getting in there. What do you think is the main mission on why people maybe don't like that you're in there? And has the history of the NFLPA been something that is changeable for future NFLPA? Yeah, you said Pablo's got the courage to go. I'd challenge him to have the courage to be right, which he hasn't been for very long time. Okay, all right, okay. So he's said a lot of things

that factually just aren't true, kind of created this narrative. It was very difficult to go through. Jalen Reeves Maven, our president just released an article yesterday, kind of highlighted a lot of those fact and fiction issues. So I think there's been a lot of misinformation. out there. And in the end, I wouldn't be in this job if what was said about me was true. It would be disqualifying. So being able to stand in front of those guys and talk about the issues and talk about what didn't, didn't happen, and then move forward, right? Like, it's been a tough time for the union the last eight months. It hasn't been great for anybody. It's been a difficult time. The guys are tired. They put in a ton of work to find the next ED. And now it's about moving forward.

We've got a huge issue coming up. We've got a CBA. We're going to be fighting in the next four to five years. We have a ton of work to do to prepare for that. And now I think we're focused on moving forward and not looking back to the past. Congratulations on the mindset of moving forward. I'm excited to see what that looks like. Whenever you think about reasons that the NFLPA has maybe failed in the past, because you've been a part of four years, nine months, you said you've been part in there and boots on the ground.

And obviously, it felt the effects of other negotiations before as a player for nine years in the NFL. When you've seen what the mistakes are of the previous NFLPAs, and obviously I think a lot of player unions have had downfalls are shortcomings. I think that's kind of a part of it all. You're battling against billionaire lawyers. What are the mistakes that have been made in the past, you think? And like, what does the future look like without those? And how can those happen? Do you have to, is it a re-hole? Do you have to change the entire operation? Like, is that what you think you have to do?

Like, how do you go about maybe having a different future than it was for however long it's been, whatever it's been? Yeah, I won't talk to it as like mistakes. I'll talk about his opportunities. Oh, I like that. That's that shit. That's that Gary V. immediate positive reaction. I like that a lot. And I'll say one of them is the times we've been at our best is when we've been aligned and engaged and had players involved.

And that's all players in our ecosystem. There's a reason I got on a plane and flew out here to come here on your show. Thank you. You were a topic of conversation in the meeting last week of how do we get people with big platforms who feel some type of way about the NFLPA back engaged with the NFLPA?

We do know that. There is a reason why we made it a point and talked about how do we get more people back involved and understand it. I would love to understand the issues you have with the NFL PA. We're never going to be perfect. I'm never going to be perfect. But the only way we get together and move forward is if we all come back together. Because to your point, we're always going to be underfunded and understaff compared to the NFL.

Always going to be true. Never going to be bigger than they are. But what we do have is solidarity and connection and bringing people together. That's the only time we ever succeed. And we are the only body that can stand up to the NFL. So if you, which I think you do care about players, if you do care about them and want them to succeed and be better, we need you involved too.

We need your voice at the table. All right. Unbelievable. We need you. We need you. We need you. We need you. I would love to be a part of obviously helping players.

I am a huge supporter of former players having success and players having success across the board. It's just like there was just a lot of decisions being made. It felt like they were just like, I think these are bad. I think these are just bad decisions that are taking place. So I'd love to assist however possible. Now, on that note, Is that the mantra going forward?

What is, like, kind of the mantra under your leadership of what the NFLPA is? Like, let's just set this up the best for players, ex-players, you know, because that's a big talking point, ex-players. It's like previous regimes at the NFLPA almost from what I heard directly being said. And then also other things, it was very much like, hey, this is our league now. They had their league at their time, you know? But every player in there is going to be a retired player at some point. Like, nobody's going to play forever. I think Tom Brady tried it.

he might still. Yeah, we'll see. Blanda, I think. Yeah, George. Played until he was like 49 or something. Yep. Uh-huh. So every player is going to be an ex-player at some point.

And it felt like there was never any representation for ex-players through the NFLPA. Then I would go to the NFL and I'd say, hey, why don't you take care of the ex-players? Let's get an insurance commercial. Let's get ex-player some more insurance. Because obviously football with the physicality, insurance would be a good thing. NFL, you guys could do this easily. This would be a good thing. And you look like good people because you're doing, especially with everything you got going on.

They said, oh, the NFLPA is normally. ones to take care of the ex-plers. So I think there's just like fundamentally so many things that I've just disagreed with with what the NFLPA has done. And it feels like you potentially have a chance to kind of restart at all. Is that how you feel? And what are the first couple steps to kind of doing a different NFLPA or a better NFLPA? Yeah, I hope the fact that I'm a former player helps with some of these issues, understanding what they've gone through. I'm a former player and I've gone through that transition. I know what the body feels like after you step away. And then it's about making sure players lead the decisions and doing that through data. I'm a big

data guy, big fan of data, and making sure that we follow where our players are. I think one of my things I've seen over the course of my five years involved is I don't think we always land exactly where the players are because we don't know exactly where the players are. So what we've started doing is surveying all of our players. We get 17, 1,800 players, active players responding to what they care about and that way we can actually target the issues. I think some of the problems with the 2020 CBA was every game that we fight for is hard. Like it's hard in negotiations to get improvements. And what we can't do is get an improvement

and players look at it and be like, I don't really care about that. And then you really wasted a lot of effort to not get something they care about. So we really need to know exactly what players care about, make sure we hear from them directly. And the same thing with the former players.

We have a former player convention at the back end of our rep meeting in San Diego where I was elected, met with the leaders of those chapters that organized players throughout our former players throughout the country and talked about their issues

and talked about what would make their lives better. So we're trying to get that information so we can fight for them better. Who are you negotiating with? The NFL, the government, NFL partners, sponsors. Like who all on the day-to-day basis is the NFL negotiating with? Like fanatics, are we negotiating with Rubin? NFL is the main one for the CBA.

And then obviously we have a licensing deal with different companies. So we have a business side. When are those deals up, do you know? Madden, I think, comes up in February, 2027 is the next big. Okay, so hey, video games. Here we go. Creators. Madden's up in 2027.

Evan, need the players, and you guys need a check to show up with at these meetings to make people interested. Don't we all understand that? Madden checks, Madden checks coming on the other side of that. Okay, so there are deals that you can potentially negotiate to bring money instantly into the pockets of players, which ultimately is what they're going to look at the most and feel most interested about. I think it's one of the things. I think health and safety matters too, but I think money always matters as well. Yeah, all right. Well, good luck out there. I think you've got a chance. I think you've got a chance. That mad one could be a big one for the players. Oh, yeah. That could be a big one for the players. AJ has a question for you, J.C.

Yeah, J.C., how do you get the players on the same page? Like, I know, like, the rep meetings back in the day, obviously, they're at the end of the day. You've got to hang out to get your check and all that stuff. But with players on such different, like, levels of their career, you know, you've got the superstars making the crazy money everyone sees. But then everybody else, I guess, how do you get all of them on the same page? I just think it's such a difficult task. How do you start that? Yeah, first off, we do direct deposit now.

So I know we talk about the Madden checks, physical checks. So no one's showing up that meeting. Cash not way? Move. right. No way. I needed a fungible. I needed something in my hand walking out of that place, but I actually didn't sign up for the Madden checks the last three years of my career because I didn't join your guys as PA. We're going to get you back. We're going to get you back involved. We'll see. There's a lot of damage done. But to get guys involved, one is to make them feel like

it matters to show up. Like you don't want to have a meeting where people show up and feel like we sat here for 30 minutes. I could go home to my kids. I could go some rehab and I wasted 30 minutes my day. I think the fact that we're heading into a CBA discussion in the near future, I think there's reasons to fight. And you talk about there are people that make a ton of money, there are quarterbacks, they're practice-wide guys, they all have different issues, making sure you speak to all those issues. You can't just speak to one niche group and think everybody's going to care about that group.

We've got 2,500 players all with their individual struggles. You need to be talking about their individual solutions to those struggles. Yeah, so you've got to represent everybody. That's always kind of the move. The NFL kind of relies upon is because the majority of people aren't the high-end people. So the majority of people in the NFL are going to want to vote something through whenever maybe the superstars don't want to vote something through. That divide has been an issue since the quarterback club whenever Jim Kelly, Troy, Dan, Favv, they all kind of separated from the union and kind of did that. Do you see a time where maybe quarterbacks, especially with the way their kind of money is going, where they become in their own little bracket of negotiations with teams, where as opposed to the salary cap taking a hit because of quarterback,

quarterback potentially just becomes its own little entity or little world, if that makes any sense? And have you guys done any full strategy on what you're pitching in the next CBA whenever it comes to salary cap allocation? What's the salary cap going to do? And obviously, how we go about getting it? I assume, yes, but we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on that. I officially start in eight days, so I haven't done any of that yet. So I've got a little bit wild. Okay, good delay, good delay.

Don't need an answer right now, good idea. But when it comes to the quarterbacks, I think the quarterbacks are critical to the overall union. and getting people involved and getting players to have a voice in a say, having them show up to the bargaining table is important too. Like these all impact them. Yes, they make a ton of money. Yes, they are the stars of the league. But I think they do also care about all the other things

that impact their teammates and themselves well after they're done playing. Yeah, the NBA had all their big, like that's great for negotiation whenever your stars are kind of in there. But normally the deals are end up being made by the people that aren't the stars and the stars end up not liking normally or loving everything that's happening. That's a tough balance. I'm excited to see how you go about doing that. DeBott has a question for you.

Yeah, J.C., what do you feel like is the most common misconception when it comes to the NFLPA, not only from the people within the ecosystem, which is, I feel like more important, but outside of the ecosystem like the players and former players. I would say that it's their union. It should be their unions. The misconception would be that it's not the players union

or it's not player-led. This is player-led. And I think my election adds to that as a former player, and what I've always been about is bringing players at the table and getting them involved and making sure they have a voice in a say and making sure everybody uses their voice to lead us forward. We've had some successes during my time as president.

I think our COVID negotiations were extremely successful. I would hold those up as an example of how it works and how our players use their voice. We had the issue, hashtag we want to play. We're over 400 of our players, a lot of the stars, use their platform and their voice to fight for health and safety issues inside the COVID negotiations. And we did really well in those COVID negotiations and that pushed by our star players. helped us also succeed in the financial aspect of those negotiations too. So getting guys involved, making sure they understand the issues and the power of their voice,

you're not always talking about work stoppages and lost game checks. There are ways to gain leverage and get people involved to make a difference well below losing money. Do you plan on showing up with ways or avenues to generate more capital for the business for both of you guys? For instance, has the NFLPA thought about maybe getting a game sold to a platform or agree to a game happening on a platform so that the NFL can profit off of it more. Like, is there, when you go into negotiate with the NFL, is there a, hey, this is what you guys are making,

we're a part of it, or how do you view kind of the partnership with the NFL through these next negotiations? Because the NFL can pick up a Wednesday afternoon game on Apple and get, I don't know, hundreds of millions, not Apple, any other platform. Apple hasn't gotten into the game yet. No.

No. Kind of weird. Yes. Doesn't it feel kind of weird that they have not gotten into the game? Yeah. I guess they don't have to because they are in everybody's pocket. Steep price, too. But it feels like every platform that wants to get in will pay whatever to get in.

Amazon, the number was like triple they pay. Netflix for just Christmas and whatever. The NFL can kind of sell off these little showcase games, let alone the 18th game that's going to happen. Is there a way to negotiate and understand that that is great for the salary cap for players while also trying not to get completely shafted? Like, how do you think you're going to go? go about doing business with the NFL?

Have you thought about that yet? And in your eyes, through the COVID negotiations, how much did you learn about how business with them actually works? Because I might be very naive to the entire process. These are billionaire lawyers trying to get every penny, I assume. Yeah, one, the league is very good at making money. I think that's one thing we all know they are really, really good at an increasing revenue. And luckily, we're in a revenue-sharing business.

So as they increase revenue, we get our percentage of the pie. I think when you talk about new time slots or game slots or more games, I think our focus is on the health and safety of that, of how do we make sure we keep our players safe? And being a former player, I played when it was 16, I played when it was 17. I had a question yesterday where it was like, do we know the impact of that extra game? It's like I knew how it felt playing 16 games. It's not like I was Rosie playing 16, and now the 17th is a question.

It is very hard to get through the season. I think everybody that's played the game understands the physical toll it takes. And our job is to make sure that we don't set our guys up for more physical pain and anguish late in their careers. And after they retire. So I think that's always our job is to protect our players. that's the job of the union is protect their members, and that's our focus. Yeah, they're saying something about maybe only 17 games for, there's so many different ideas on how the negotiation happens,

because, man, there's so much more money available now than ever for football, especially at primetime games or specialty games. So the NFL trying to get as international as they're trying to get, that 18th game, as soon as the 17th game was agreed to, that 18th game was certainly coming. And then they're like another by week, sure, yeah, okay, we'll add another week of primetime games. It's like, I think the amount of money is going to be absurd.

I'm excited to see how you balance it all, genuinely, because we know, offense alignment especially, I mean, Wednesdays maybe they're back from a Sunday game, maybe. And by back, I mean, like, just walking around doing life, especially late in season. Thursday, some guys were their first day getting up, and then now everybody has a Thursday night football game, and it's like you've got a shoe worn that in there, but now it's like one of the most valuable assets of the NFL. You're going to have to balance a lot of shit, Cornell brain. I'm excited to see how that whole thing goes.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, so just for you personally, and maybe this doesn't apply to you, because you did major in this at Cornell and you obviously have an interest in it and you want to do it. But how do you not potentially like look at getting burned out? Because it feels like every single negotiation you're going to go through is going to be very contentious. Like the NFL is not just going to give anything up. How do you make sure you don't go into these? And it's like an adversarial tone where you're almost like, hey, fuck these guys.

We got to beat these guys. When you know in reality, like they're your partners and you kind of need them to succeed. like what does that like because I imagine this is an incredibly stressful and hard job to do? Yeah, I think first off, you're right. Like you got two partners and you're locked together, right? They can't go get another union to deal with and we can't go get different management. So we're locked in as partners going forward. One, this isn't, for my personal burnout.

This isn't the J.C. Treader show. This isn't the J.C. Treader union. This is the players union. So yes, my job is to lead this organization and get us organized. But we have players leading and making the decisions. And then second, I love this work. This is something that is an absolute passion of mine. I am someone who says I don't really want a work-life balance,

or if I love my work so much, it's not really work, and I enjoy doing it all hours of the day, and that's how I feel about this work. It's why I wanted to come back. And then it comes to those negotiations. Each negotiation is different. Sometimes things are collaborative, and you work forward through the issues,

and you don't need to fight about it, and you come to a good conclusion. Other times, they test you, and you test them, And it gets to more of a fight. And in the end, you come back together like any relationship is, and you realize how to move forward. So that will always change through each negotiation, each issue between the two sides.

What's your tactic? What's your tactic? You do the bread. You come in nice. And let's get to the immediate thing. And then we end out a little bit nice. What is your kind of, what is your style you think? What's it going to be like?

Are you wondering him over? Hey, how are we doing? How are we doing? Today's a good day. Today's good day. Or you, hey, I hate your guts. And this is what's going to happen? No, I don't think.

I think it's one, you can't just be one thing, right? You can't just be a, like, I'm going to be a hard ass all the time and make everything difficult because I don't, I think you lose a lot of low-hanging fruit when everything's difficult. Yeah. So if you instead, I think working collaboratively as far as you can, and then eventually you have to make a decision of what's best for your players. If things start coming up that are bad for your players, like the COVID negotiations, when we couldn't get health and safety protocols, then you have to elevate it to more

of a fight. And then you see where things shake out from there. So you want to go as far as you can without going nuclear, but you have to be willing to and capable of going nuclear. Yeah, they have to know you could potentially go nuclear. There has to be a constant fear of that. From my experiences, it has to be a constant fear of this could end. If that's how you would like this to dance, I think we can certainly do that.

Let them have it, bud. But also, you need them. And they are fucking very good. The thing that I didn't like about the last NFLPA's representatives, it was my rookie symposium down there in Florida. And I think it was DeMari Smith's first time speaking, maybe. I don't know. I think he was very, I think it was his first time.

And I just, you know, I've always been a fan of business. Like I enjoy the act of making money through business, you know? And the way he spoke about, we're going to war with the NFL. You know, we got war chess and right. This is going to be a long fight or whatever. My immediate thought is like, well, they're billionaires. We're not. So long fight, not good for us.

I think they potentially SS out. And aren't they our partners, you know? Like, shouldn't we just like maybe not just want to kill them? maybe like, hey, you guys are really good of making money, you also need us. Can there ever be simpatico? Is that ever possible? Do you think that is a possible thing?

Or am I way too naive in thinking that? Like Roger Goodell, I feel like, is one of the best speakers in the history of speaking. You put him up against, like, politicians, you put him up against anybody. He is one of the best speakers of all time. But I think he also a very good business. I think he's a very talented business person.

Obviously, you've talked about revenue sharing how we both profit. But is there a chance that you guys do like that type of business with the NFL or might should I stop thinking that that's anywhere near reality? That's absolutely possible. Now again, okay. Okay, let's do

that. Let's take advantage of their super genius because those fuckers are really smart over there and they got a lot of money and if we can get lifetime insurance out of these fuckers, that'd be great. AJ, wouldn't that be great news? Yeah, that should be first on the docket, isn't it, JC? Yeah, JC, it's got to be it. And then on that note,

there's also something that is potentially causing long-term problems that was a big fight. on the social media. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, JC, he's talking about the whole field turf situation that we were players were up in arms like the last couple years. I feel like it's died down lately. Where are we with that as far as trying to make all these places have natural grass as a surface?

Yeah, I think all players know what they like and know what it feels like to play on turf versus grass. I think measuring that's important, but I think the player experience is important. We surveyed the members. 92% of the members say they want to play on natural grass. So pretty clear. Not much doubt in those numbers. But I think what we've seen and what the leagues talks about is that the injury rates have come together and they're comparable between grass and turf.

The issue behind those numbers is that grass has actually ticked up in injuries, which means we have to make sure we're having good surfaces. So it's not just having grass and going out on a Muni golf course and say, well, this is Augusta. No, it's not. It's different. We need Kentucky blue grass. That's right.

We need top-tier grass surfaces and making sure we have performance to keep guys healthy and safe and be able to perform out there. Yeah, we need super grass. Don't you think we need super grass? I take supergrass. Vaughniller's got it. Jaycee, why did you sign up for this job, dude? Seriously.

I'm very thankful you did. And you said you love it. Yeah, it's your passion and everything like that, man. As soon as you were named the Super Duper guy, I was like, man, ex-player is up there. Hell yeah, congratulations. And then I opened up, I'm like, oh, there's going to be so many people that are mad about this.

And then not only that, you're going to be judged completely on how your group of people negotiate against 32 billionaires. I think they're going to be moving one of the non-billionaires who's an owner probably not going to be an owner for longer. So we're going to assume these are the richest people on earth

getting into the NFL. And you're going to have to negotiate against them. And you're going to be judged on how that negotiation goes for the rest of your life. Good luck, dude. Good luck, dude. Oh, good. Appreciate.

Appreciate the pump up. That is, I'm thankful you're the guy for it. I didn't know we had a Cornell law. union, labor, major guy. I didn't know we had that. I knew you were the NFLPA president. I thought you just really liked it. And you're like super pro players.

I didn't know you actually went to school for this shit. That's like the type of person you want running the thing. So certainly qualified. I should have known that, even though my trust in the NFLPA making right decisions is pretty low at this stage. I should have known that you probably were qualified for the role. Okay, that's pretty fucked up by me to even question that in this entirety. But after talking to you and knowing you here for a couple of years, we do believe you're going to try your absolute best for the players.

and we're grateful for that. So good luck out there. And obviously your shins are going to get banged. Really hard to this entire process. But you know that. And you look, that's a good cord zip there, in it. Oh, yeah. Clean.

Deba, look at that. It is, very clean. Things have changed. Look at that. PA, you're looking up. It is looking up. Great clothes. You sending that to the boys?

You send it up. We'll get you a bunch. No, not me. Whoa, we got the guys got them, but you're getting one, too. Oh, the boys got already got them. Oh, they got them. Oh, they got them. Yeah, we like the Lululah, right?

Sure. Yeah, we'll take a few, I guess. I'll send them over. Yeah, I mean, me putting an NFLPA thing right on my chest would certainly be quite a move in my history, you know, in my life. I campaigned out. I said I'm going to get him in a NFLPA quarters of it. We've got my election.

There we go. Good politics. He didn't shake the hand earlier. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but he just dropped the campaign thing. He was ready for business. We appreciate you, JC. Good luck out there, man.

And hopefully you and Pablo, you know, can maybe get together because it feels like, and they sounded like maybe not. But maybe at some point, you know, so that we can all get the betterment for players, you know, which would be good in the end. And I think that's all we're all hoping for. So good luck out there. I appreciate you.

Appreciate it. All right, we're going to take a break. On the other side, we'll wrap up today's sporting events. Tony, anything you say from live from Hammer? Don, Don, Don. I'm all in on the PA. Hell, yeah. All right.

You sell them merch, you got a mark over here. Yep, that's all it took. Maybe you should start thinking about selling merch. Talk about making money. Talk about driving revenue. Oh, Foxy just said, hey, what about the report cards. Obviously, you can't just once, as a person who has gone through a few

negotiations, and I'm not going to act like it wants to Cornell or I'm a super genius, but once I heard the NFL come out and say, report cards, yeah, you're disparaging our entire country. Yeah, right, that's breach. You cannot just be putting out how terrible our businesses are. As soon as I heard them say that, it felt like they were very, you're going to take it very seriously, especially

if they start saying like, hey, this is in the contract, this is breach, there's some shit that we could potentially follow up with this. When they started putting that phrasing out, I thought the report cards had some were in some trouble. And then, lo and behold, those report cards slithered their way

to a reporter and they got out. How do you think that whole thing's going to go? Honestly, because I think public announcement is the only way to pressure some people into changing anything. I do think that is a factual thing. But I assume they feel very strong

about the disparagement argument that those can potentially be for the shitty-ass buildings in shitty-ass facilities that we don't want in the league, by the way. Nobody wants them to league. How do you kind of navigate that while actually applying a bit of pressure

so there's actual change, but also they're going to hold that shit over your head pretty heavily, I think, from what it sounded like. Yeah, we had to make sure our guys know what's going on. I think that's been one of the important things about report cards is making sure that guys know where they're going. I talked to one guy who signed with a team, and I asked, did you know it was going to be like it was?

And he was like, I had no idea until I showed up. I regret it I signed that contract before. So making sure our guys have the decisions. And then, again, we're not allowed to release it publicly. That's been decided. But we're going to make sure our guys have the information. Yeah, you're right. Hey, journalist do the journalist stuff.

That's right. That's why they're journalists. Be right. To get to a break. He's pretty pumped up. Yeah. He's saying. Just be right.

Good luck out there. We're pulling for you, man. Appreciate it. I mean, the owners of these NFL teams are only getting richer, you know? Mm-hmm.

So that means who's coming alongside those people are just richer lawyers. Right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Come on, dude. Do it. Maybe bring some beer.

in there. Maybe lighten, you know? Yeah. Maybe get some beer. Play some music. You know, let's get some of the guys tell some stories out there. Let's get some laughs. Let's get some big pops in there. Let's let them get comfortable with us. Understand we need to do business together. We need each other here. I'm sure those lawyers are beer with the boys type of guys. Yeah, definitely. Put that beer in front of the first thing they'll do. Snag that thing up and just put a little alcohol in their body. That'll clarify some things.

We need to get in the room with those people. Mm-hmm. Good luck, dude. Appreciate it. I don't know if you can just booze them up. I don't know if that'll work. I don't know. He's dry it. You know? Could you imagine they walk into the first negotiation with him?

There's a fucking keg in the back corner. Who's thirsty? He's got Garth Brooks in the corner. Playing the guitar. Welcome to me. We want a light and light a little bit. That'd be great. Set the tone.

Precedent. Lord's coming. This is unprofessional. But they have to work with you. Have to. We're all we got. Yeah. Oh, actually,

Kahn has a quick question on that now. Yeah. The biggest thing, too, with the fields is the refs. Right now the referee kind of standoff. I don't know where the NFLPA with the referee PA is, but the referee PA deal we found out is like the greatest deal ever. They don't have to answer to anybody. And if someone says you guys think they basically tell you to fuck off,

like where does that stand? Because if replacing refs happen, that's going to be a nightmare. And then what's to deal with the microchip? We're about to start baseball and they're bringing in AI, ABS. Like, why aren't we working with that in the NFL? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, deep question there. Save that one for the last one of the day.

One, refs union, I'm going to talk to the refs union. I can talk to Roger, too. I got understanding what's going on. So I don't have any background information on what's going on. Their negotiations, so that'll take time. And then the technology, I think they did some of the microchip for the first down, right? It's not, hasn't moved. Preseason, yeah.

Yeah, so we'll see how that shakes out and how it works. But I have no updates on that. Again, day negative eight in the job. Still, still eight days. How about the ref stuff? Will the players be involved in that, or is that strictly NFL ref stuff? That's their own union. They have their own union, their own representation.

Now again, we support unions getting what they deserve. Like, we want to make sure the reps get taken care of and treat it fairly. I think we stand with all the other unions that are fighting and collective bargaining. So we would love to help them in any way possible. What about the longshore union? Do you remember them? Oh, yeah. Jimmy Hoffa.

No? No. That was a truck, I believe. I know. I'm saying union figures. Okay. They got it done. That's in the go.

You need to study that guy. Study the past. You need to dress. same way too. He shut it all down. Whole East Coast. Whole country. He's ready to go nuclear.

Nothing's happening. He was. He was at that moment. We don't need that. Ball's in a good spot. We need to keep it going. We need ball to continue to thrive. But we need players to also benefit greatly from their hard work and their talent.

You're the man for it, JC. We appreciate you. That's Jay Cretter. We'll take a break. We'll be back on the other side, wrapping up all today's sports events. Thank you, Jaycee. Go, Big Red. Hey, Jay, C. Good luck, dude.

Good luck. AJ, could you imagine? No, never. I cannot, actually. I just try to deal with NFL players, let alone having to go back and talk to the owner's lawyers. Like, yeah, it's good luck. Good luck, Jason.

You are the guy, though. You do care, which is great. One locker room trying to figure out. Just one locker room. On what's happening on Thursday night. Where are we going? Who's going where? How's the whole?

Who's setting it up? That's why you read all those books at Cornell. That's right. You didn't cheat at all. That was before ChatGPT. That's right. Right near the old-fashioned way. Books.

And that's what you're going to do at the negotiation table. Hell yeah. The old-fashioned way. Get the job done right. Bang. Tough beer. See you in 10 years. Respect.

Good luck to you. We'll be back on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change her life. Hey, you know what, JC? Yep. Hell yeah. Team on me.

Anything's any of the group here? Quarter Zips on me. I'm bringing them. Everybody. Pat's wearing it. He's guaranteed it. I heard that as a locked in thing. We're going to get sent out right away.

I want to hear it. NFLPA on three. Let's get it on record, right? One, two, three. MLPA. See you on the other side. Let's get that clip. I need to post that.

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Dad! Cowboys AP Ton is here. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here. AJ, I don't know if you know this, but obviously March Madness is happening, and obviously the NBA playoffs are heating up. I mean, hideous.

Yeah. Certainly electrifying. Their salary cap's going up. Ten or $11 million. That's all you need to hear, let alone all the other projections. Good for them. We got magical things happening all over the sports world,

but the NFL is cooking. And we are still in it very much in the middle of draft season. We are still very much in the middle of who's going to make it in the NFL, who's not going to make it in the NFL? Combine big deal. A lot of guys sit out of the combine. What do they want to work out at? Well, they want to work out at their pro days.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are in pro day season. Yesterday officially kicked off pro day season. And D-But has a pro-day showcase. Hey, Bob. What happened at these pro days yesterday? As a few schools were showcasing their talents to the NFL. Yeah, you mentioned pro day, and it is a huge box to check. Like you said, the combine.

The combine is one thing. But with these seasons, a lot of times being longer, sometimes players recovering from injuries or whatever issues they may have. They just want to perform at the confines of their home facilities. They're going to do this. The two biggest pro days yesterday were LSU and Miami. We're going to start at LSU. Starting with the quarterback, Nussmeyer,

who coming into this season was projected to be one of the highest quarterbacks drafted, didn't perform that well this season, got banged up, but he threw it around well. He showed some zip. I think only three balls hit the ground. This was big for him just to show that he was fully healthy. So he threw the ball well, a lot of talent, obviously up there at LSU, so it doesn't end with him at the quarterback position. Also, Harold Perkins, Jr.

Oh, yeah, he's been around a long time. Yeah, he has been around a long time. Tom gave me a little more background on him as far as his freshman year. I think he popped up on the scene. Last couple of years, it's been kind of tough for him to find it, been injured, kind of an undersized backer, but he ran a 4-3-8, so flew at a 10-4-broad jump, 35-inch vertical. So that's good for him.

Once again, he dealt with some injuries, so this was great for him being healthy. They also didn't know where to put him, right, Tom? It was like, should he rush the passers? Is he going to be an X? Because he could run a 4-3, but he could rush the passer. So I think LSU, when he was a freshman, just kind of let him do that.

Then he wanted to move him. It didn't work. It felt like he was always trying to find a home, as what it felt. Yeah, as a freshman, he was first team all SEC. His breakout game was against Bama. He basically spied Bryce Young the entire game, if I remember that correctly,

and had a great game against them. But then they could never figure, and they had defense coordinator changes, but they can never figure out where to put him, whether it would be an edge rusher, whether it's going to be middle, whether it's going to be at Sam or Will. But at 6-1-22,

Debut said he is kind of tweener. So if an NFL team can figure out where they want to put him, he's an athletic freak, but that just, no one has been able to figure out what they want to do with him. Where are you putting them at there? D-But. 438 is outrageous. We had a teammate who was potentially thinking

about safety defensive head hybrid. I'm not saying 6-1 is doing that, but where would you put this type of athlete on the field? Somebody will figure it out, is what we're guessing? You hope a good coach will figure it out, and we're in kind of the age of the tweener. You know, you want a guy who can cover, who can do all the different things.

So if he got it, and I would assume where he's probably going to get drafted, he's going to have to make a name for himself on special teams, first and foremost, I would assume. When you have those type of dims, you can probably be a core teamer. 438 on kickoff right now. Flying down the field, obviously you're a great athlete.

And if he can find a way, obviously, I always start with you. If you have any ability to put pressure on a passer, that's going to help you. And then obviously covering Nick Eamon Worry was a guy who completely changed that Seattle defense. He's not, you know, at that level, I don't think, but who knows what he can be on the next level. And speaking of the next level, Mansour Delane, who's their corner, who will be CB1 in this draft. He had to check a box, which was his speed. He didn't play slow, but if he ran anything in the four-fours, he was going to be CB1. And he ran four-threes, mid-to-high four-threes, which is a great, great time for him.

His film is great. He's fluid. About 6-foot 190. He can press. He can play off. Great in man-to-man coverage, which is extremely important in the NFL, but also very good in zone. Rarely do you see a prospect that can come out and have the field and the aggressiveness and the speed and the twitchiness to play man-to-man coverage. and then also have it between the years to be great in zone as well.

So he checks all those boxes. I think he will be the first quarterback off the board, probably somewhere in that top 10 range. A lot of people are putting them right now with New Orleans Saints. I think the Saints actually tweeted out his 40 yesterday, but he's a big-time talent out there. I actually caught some balls lining up at receiver yesterday, too, caught some deep ones from Nuss.

So he has the ball skills. He has the speed. He has the size. And he also has the aggressiveness to play the position at a high level. So he'll be CB1. Delane is the name? Delane is the name of 438. And then is everybody fast, AJ?

Is 438 438 for Perkins? I remember Perkins' freshman year. And then I remember riding the wave of what positions he's supposed to play. 438 all across the board everywhere. It's insane how fast football has become, AJ Hawk, while being huge still. Yeah, while being huge, that's the thing, like the size of these guys that can run 4-4-4-3 is what's crazy. And then when you couple that with like the fluency. and being able to turn your hips and go and put your foot in the ground and change direction.

That's, I think, what separates a lot of these people. Yeah, and he actually hits that. He stole a couple of ten for the second there. Because I could have been a 4-39. It could have been. Maybe 4-4, but instead he hit the, how you do it? Yeah, you got to do that. I mean, these dudes special talent, man.

And Delane, this is the first time I'm hearing that he's CB1. I know Jeremiah Smith had him on his. Mo Kuyper's got him on a big board. Him going top 10 would be insane. Now we know that the guy can float at 438 for him, his pro day. There was another massive pro day that happened yesterday. Iowa. I was going to say, you mentioned Ellis. You mentioned Miami.

I believe Iowa had the most pro bowlers in the NFL last year, so it's crazy. Really? Really? Yeah. Maybe a couple of future pro bowlers were working out over there now? Maybe, but I get it, you know, not, although there could be a couple of debacks, you know, that might, I might get that tape to you. I don't think they really posted anything.

A couple of just pictures, you know, that's kind of Iowa, just gritty. You don't have a sexual. We don't need the video bullshit. You got every, you know, every team. had, you know, front office personnel there. But yeah, mostly, you know, linemen type stuff, so I could see Y, but maybe wasn't as locked in. Okay, well, shout out to Iowa,

because we saw some lineman shit happening down in South Florida yesterday. We got to have some problems in Miami. Absolutely. The runner-ups, you know, obviously made it to the national championship. Down there, University of Miami, a lot of people put it on the show, but it starts up front with the talent. Ruma Bain Jr., Akim Messador and Blay as well. But Bain Jr., and Messador, probably both be first-round picks.

I think Bain will go first. He has all the twitchiness. He has the explosiveness. A lot of talks were about how his arms measure at the combine, which we saw him play. A lot of us saw him warm up as well with Jason Taylor coaching him up. Pre-game, the way he bends around edges, the way he uses his hands, how violent he is on contact, which you saw on those sled drills.

Those are the things that will make him be a top-tier talent, I believe, on the next level. So I think he'll be somewhere in that top 15, top half of the first round. Then Messador, maybe in that second half of the first round. Those are two guys that were expected to perform well and expected to be first round is coming into that pro day. I think the biggest winner out of Miami was Keante Scott, their slot defender. Now, he's projected to safety. He could be a slot corner.

That's where I see him playing. I didn't expect this time. I didn't expect this time. The first time we saw were like in the four twos. I believe it came out like the four in the mid, four threes, which is still a great, great time. He had a good vertical as well. But watching him play, he can move.

He's great in space. He's great overfield tackling. He's a great blitzer. And the best part, the best play, I think, that from our whole run as college football players that we had a chance to call was against Ohio State, actually just take a look. I've been able to do whatever he wanted all here. Oh!

I'll holl at you. Oh, hi-halla. Kiatte's cat. Should have been a Thorpe Award winner. Boom. Thorpe Award. What a Belmont. Stop it.

Big time player. Deontez Scott was the stadium. Woo-hoo. A 13 sip in the cotton box. Jim Thorpe Award should be winner. Jumpstar out and cribs that thing. What a ball of that, dude. That was so much fun to watch at Miami team.

Yeah. He was sick. Hitting the Thorpe Award. We should have known in real time. But it was on the other. side of that. Yeah, it was tough. He doesn't see it at the time. But he obviously is a showcase,

is everybody fast? Did anybody have a bad combine or a bad pro day? One guy, but mostly interviews. McCoy Lemon, I believe. A lot of people said didn't have a great day. But hey, but hey, I would love him at 31 in New England. Of course. Of course.

But it does feel like when it comes to on-field stuff, everything we've seen from everybody. Like the combine, everybody was faster than expected. These pro days, They just started. And my Algo became, I mean, Bain, Mezador, and Flette. Them hitting that sled.

Yeah. The guy who won last, Falae went last. It was like, that's a tough spot to be. And after what the, that's a demolishing of the sled ring. Very violent. Okay, like, obviously you've seen the sled drill before. This is very standard operating procedure. But there's levels to this shit.

The amount of violence that was happening in those first two, Blay, sorry. The amount of violence in his first two, for him to have to follow that, I was like not. This sucks for this guy. And then he follows suit fucking wrecks that. AJ,

I mean, they were, that was a violent operation. Yeah, this is awesome watching these guys do this, but watching Ruben Bain dip and rip around those bags. I mean, I think that that's truly special what he can do.

Like, when you can couple the violence with this, like look how tight he is in the bag. It's just, how do you block them? For real. Like, if you're a six foot seven tackle,

how do you block this guy? No, I don't know. To AJ's point, they're coming out with, I've seen like graphs with the Pythagrium theorem. Oh, yeah.

on his shin angle, like his bend. And they say his shin angle is by far the best that they've ever seen. Like the way that he can bend and move. And you talk about his arms, that doesn't ever show up, like, on the field. Like there's guys with short arms where they get eaten up by tackles. That doesn't happen. Yeah, we saw him. Like, we saw him.

Not only Bain, but Messador as well. But Bain, his explosiveness, how he uses his hands. And A.J. talked about the bend. We played with two, I think, should be Hall of Fame pass where his friend he's already in. Robert Matthew should be in soon. But those, they're been, their get-off and they're been, I feel like are the most important things when you talk about past rushers on the next level

because we know the book-in tackles. Usually they're big guys, so it's tough for them to get low. And you see how they cheat to get off sometimes is to protect them. So if you have a guy, guys that can get off and get to the quarterback, that's a game changer for any program. And we talk about practice all the time. Like they're going up against the number one rated tackle this year, right?

And Moiyaga, who might play guard, who knows, but still. And then the biggest guy I think I've ever seen on a football field, Markell Bell, was it their other tackle? He was like 6-9, 380 pounds. And that's what they're going up against, you know, and practice every single day. So they were both ridiculous. Great names too, Mezzador and Bain, you know,

and then Blaze coming through. That Miami team was fun to watch. They were thumping folks. Yeah. Like that was, they enjoyed- A&M on. They enjoyed hitting people. I mean, that was very evident.

I think that's going to be a hurricane staple. and they're going to have a lot of guys in the NFL going forward out of Chris the ball's operation. They were fun to watch. Yeah, and we were talking with Dano about, you know, like showing up in the biggest moments. Like, we watched every single one of their games. Like, they didn't win the national championship, but he was a game wrecker in every single one of those playoffs games. And going into Texas A&M, remember, their left tackle.

Yeah. Talking shit. Star. And then we obviously made it a thing. You know, how could you not? Had to. Because we have this whole thing. And then we're watching that Texas A&M game.

And it's like, hey, Bain's name. starting to show up a lot around here. And then his ass is full on, excuse me. And it's like, well, that's one game. Is he going to be able to continue? Then the next one. We got the arm cross fucking baitings here. I was born to.

Yeah, yeah. Took over. Just absolutely took over. And then Mesidor on the other side, it was like, geez, this is exactly how you want to build a team, especially if you're Mario Cristobal. Good luck to them. Their pro day showcase was certainly what I enjoy.

Great work, Dee. You're going to have any offensive line stuff, Ty? I'll be honest. I went through and I scoured everything. I don't know if there was one video posted. I think everyone kind of, like, yeah, ProD is important. We know we're going to get some guys, you know, drafted this year, probably several.

Kind of all eyes are on Thursday right now when it comes to Iowa. What's going on Thursday? The fucking boys are playing in the Sweet 16 against a hated rival, you know, unbelievable that they're playing Nebraska. So everyone's focus is kind of... I know Nebraska has a very, very, very passionate fan in Will Compton. Sure. And we obviously are tight with the Nebraska community because we had coach Rule on the program this past year.

Did they like that or hate that? Who? The Nebraska community. Did they like that he was on our show? Yeah. Probably for like the first four weeks when it was like, hey, they're going to the college football playoff. And then like, week 10 when it was kind of like what I said and what everyone said was going to happen. Like that'll be six and six.

And then they'll be like, why the fuck is this guy going on this show every single week when we're routinely losing games we shouldn't be losing? Yeah, but he was really good on the show. We appreciate Coach Rule. He was. He was. I love Coach Ruhle's house. He made a commitment. I love Coach Rul's House.

Riola will wear number eight at Oregon. He's been given permission from Marcus Marietta, who has an entire hall of success. And also Dylan Gabriel, so he can certainly wear the eight in this entirety. How would they do that? I know. The fuck are we doing. Liner just gave you the game play in the book. He's not even starting, coach.

Oh, no. He's a backup. Don't do that. I just saw him get into a burger debate. Let's go back to the, let's go back to the pro days. We got a lot of them this week. We'll certainly cover them.

Debutt will have his showcase as they go through yesterday. Toledo also. Miss that one. Oh, yeah. Okay. They got the quarterback. They got one of the best safeties in the draft as well. Yeah, they did the combine big.

It took it easier. Okay, sounds good. Today, Auburn, Notre Dame, and Texas, that'll be gigantic. What do do you do? What will Jeremiah love to do? Yukons today? Yep. I don't Jordan Reed said.

That's fucked up, Jordan. Is there anybody at it? Scholar Bell, Belinda Qualfinals. Well, there's a chance. Joey Fidana is going to go in the first round two as well, right? He was spinning it. He was spinning it at the Combine. That's how you say his name.

Wednesday, Alabama, Arizona, Ohio State, Texas, A&M. AJ, I know the Ohio State Pro Day is always a big to-do, and I'm being serious with that. It is always a big deal. Every NFL team has been. at Ohio State's Pro Day for the last 100 years, basically. Are you guys excited? Who should be stealing

the show there? Is there any conversations coming out of what Buckeye Pro Day will look like? I mean, yeah, we will see. I don't know how much the linebackers will do the tandem with Arvel Reese and Sonny Stiles, but I mean, I'm sure General Bob will be boots on the ground. He could give us a recap of whatever has happened. We'll certainly give a call to the General

Bob Carpenter and have him give us a little bit of a... He might run. He might honestly show up in tights and run. White. He should. He should. Which we should think about. And also, yeah, all white spanks. We want the entirety.

And we hope the hair is as fantastic as it used to be at this time. Sunny Stiles, a lot of conversation about him, man. A lot of conversation and intrigue about where he's going to go. Ohio State feels like it's back to the linebacker. You again like it was when A.J. Hawk was back. That's right. Yeah, it's funny because, you know, off-ball linebackers are normally not a position that gets drafted super high. Also running back.

So him and Jeremiah love. Interesting to see where they go. but the one guy for the Ohio State Pro Day, who did not go at the Combine, was Caleb Downs. So everyone's going to be very, very interested to see what he does at the Pro Day because he was the only Ohio State guy

not to do anything at the Combine. Now, Marvin Harrison, Jr. didn't run at the Combine or at Pro Day. So it has been Ohio State precedent before that just not running. Okay, watch the film. You think I'm a football player or not? You can figure that out. We assume Caleb will run.

Do we know, AJ, if Caleb's running or what he's doing? I don't know. I have not checked with anybody if he is going to run. I would think he's going to run, but either way, I don't know, can he affect if he, yeah, if he goes out there and runs a 4-6, it can affect his draft stock, but why would he run if he's going to be a top-10 pick already?

Yeah, what I'm thinking is why would I, if I'm Kayla. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm letting people watch film, man. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm not training for track. Sorry, now. I'll do the little other stuff. You want me back, but I'll do the track.

Yeah, a couple of those. I can do a couple of those. I'll go high point a ball, so I can Get some photos at Ohio State Pro Day in the building. That's at least pretty cool. It's a good little history. I don't know if we need to see. Unless he comes out, what is he around the 4-2?

Yeah. That'd be sweet. What if Caleb comes out and runs a fucking 4-2? What does brother run? Oh, gosh. 4-3 something, probably, I assume, right? Yeah. That's so fast, dude.

I mean, the styles brothers. Just fly. You did everything? What did you do? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I've got the same update. Yeah. Bruce just told me that multiple updates have been sent to the Thunderdome.

there's a big break of news coming at 3 o'clock out of the Buffalo Bill's social media really huge not when it comes to the team but they're not that huge you're talking about the Buffaloes I don't know and the mailing of the Buffaloes I don't know

but we've gotten multiple and we're going to be disappointed no I don't know that's up to you are they real are they rendering or the real deal did they get sent into the group yeah they did you've seen the photos yep there's I got to get eyes on it I got to get eye on this

Yeah, don't see it. Three o'clock, the Buffalo Bill's social media will be debuting. I don't know how much we're supposed to say. It's three minutes. How much is pop them up right now? We got a fan. We like the Buffalo Bill's social media team. I'm a fan.

We like the Buffalo Bill's social media team. I will say it feels like this is good news for the people that were potentially attacking what those bison would look like. Okay. Seems like they understood the assignment whenever they're piecing these fuckers together from what I just saw here. Now, we shall wait three minutes. until they break the news on their social media, AJ. I don't know if you've seen in the group text or not yet.

I did just pop it up. Yeah, I don't know. Can we get something a little more realistic, possibly? AJ looks like a young Chris Collinsworth in this. I don't like it. I mean. I didn't see that. I look.

Wait, let me see. No. Wait, I'm in there. I think that was not. Whoever did this in here, go back to the fucking drawing board. Connor looks fat. His chin and neck is huge. I don't know.

I don't know what I look like. Connor's having a little bit of an Irish Tuesday. Debutt. Do yourself favor. I think we know who the culprit is. Yeah. It's the same. It's the same guy who it's the same face.

He did it again. He sits on making Debutt look like. That racist fatso we got. Wow. That's not fair. That is not the case. He tries his best over there. Uh-oh.

He had a... Phone saying the bills made that one. No way. Uh-oh. No, they did. No. All right. We got a lot of inside jokes going on right now.

We apologize for anybody that is currently watching. Just know that the bills have reached out to us to make sure that we know that there is an update coming to the Bison. What has happened to the photos since they've got into this thunderdown two minutes ago, okay? All this fuckery that is happening currently has happened within the last 120 seconds. That is the problem with this place. Okay. That is the problem with this place. You hear me?

My bad, everybody. That can't be happening in here, AJ. What do you call him? What do you call him, con man? You know what? I take it back. Okay. I take it back.

I said some things a couple of moments ago. And I regret it. And I rescind those statements. Yeah. So this was... We look good. Yeah, I think you guys do it. Zoom in.

I mean, that's the... Pop it up. Just pop it up. No, we can't. We got a minute and ten seconds. That's not you, D. Bud. Ty, you look awesome. So maybe Bone was telling the truth all those months ago and where he got that face from.

AJ looks good. Zoom in on. No, that looks different than the one. Are the bison fully intact? Do we know? What do you mean? Yeah, I see them. I don't think anybody's taking off any pieces of them.

I don't know. One minute out here since the big reveal from. What a huge reveal it's going to be. People are on the edge of their seats. I am actually kind of, I have not seen these photos that are popping up right now that you all have seen in our group text. I only saw the text message with like it was in a bundle. So I then I just saw the big.

The first one. Yeah, I just saw the big. one. So, hey, I was kind of... Oh, at night. Yeah, that's exactly. The night. Yeah. I think they're nice. 27 seconds. All eyes on a Buffalo Bill social media. If we please pull up a Buffalo Bill social media account, please, so we can wash it. So we can watch it. Oh, 20 seconds, 25 seconds. That is sweet. I think so, right? Yeah. The one at night that's lit up is very cool.

I think it's non-ass. The happy birthday of the real ones going to look like, though. Come on. They need to update. you mean like that. This is what it's going to be. The rendering. Come on. They're going to have a stadium burning down in their rendering. It's a fucking late.

All day. I've been waiting all day for a bison up day. Is that a pin tweet there? Yeah. Yeah, you got to get down there. They better not be fucking lying to us about it. It's not at. Oh, Buffalo is one minute behind the rest of the U.S.

That's right. That's why their wings are so good. Buffalo time. Just on south. I had a dessert the other day. They're hot. Took 20 minutes. They tweeted it?

Yeah, it's hot. All right, let's find it. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some breaking news out of Western New York. There will be massive bison outside the brand new Highmark Stadium. And they will be so big that it will not embarrass the entire franchise with little baby-ass bison. These bison are big. These bison are strong. These bison are ready to go on a run maybe to the Super Bowl for Buffalo.

I'll be honest. I like the size of the bison. I was kind of shocked by like the mirror idea. But then you take it to the night one if they've posted that. Have they posted the night one? So here's breaking news of what it looks like at night from what we have received here. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. That's cool. Zich is sending their dims. They're big. Yeah. I'm thinking. that's the right size bison if i'm a buffalo bill yeah yeah that's what we were worried they're gonna get some mickey moss bison weren't we a j thought they're gonna mail it in cute little photo

for the little children of bill's mafia to come walking over this bison and these things there bison are strong powerful fucking historic piece of the united states of america and the buffalo bills they did it a j i'm happy with what we're seeing here from a i before we're actually seeing what it actually looks like. Yeah, I hope that they can, you know, the real thing looks as good as this looks right now, but it looks like we're going to have to implant smoke machines what in their noses to

have this, like their breath show like this. There's a lot of moving parts here, huh? You don't think that's a part of it? You don't think the lights that are shooting? Does your head lift up and down? Do they move at all? They move at a platform right there? They don't really? They're running a circle? Yeah. Sometimes that was sweet. They better raise that. Nobody circles

the wagons. That's what I'm saying the whole time. Chris Berman is saying, as that Big fuckers lumber and the little baby one there is good for a photo. You know, AJ, I think you'll probably be able to hop up on it on a little baby. No, he won't. I got the dims right here. The bull is 27 feet tall and 23,000 ponds. Okay, yeah, I like it.

The cow is 22 feet tall and 23 feet long. And then the calf representing the next generation of Bill's Mafia is 12 feet tall and 13 feet. Yeah, we like that. Okay, we're worried Big bison We were worried about the chest Being too close to the ground We were worried about

You know, what would it look like In the daytime as well Is there gonna be a time Where we maybe will get on top of that thing Will we be able There Look at me on top of that thing Wow

Whoa Is that the size Because I look pretty big actually up there They better raise that fence You gotta do a show from up there Oh I missed the part At night the statues Will come to life

With five programmable light lighting to systems. The bull and cow have been uniquely designed to emit smoke through their nostrils, evoking the image of breath in western New York winter. Uh, yeah. They fucking nailed it, I'd say. Yeah. Okay.

Was it not worth the way, boys? Color me impressed. I bet they win the Super Bowl. That's all I need to see. Fantastic work. They need to raise the fence. Whoever's putting these together, please make it look like this. That's going to be tough to take that rendering and make it look similar to this, right?

Well, they're just going to three-e print. What are you a sculptor? You think they're going to... The fuck do you know about how... You better find a good one, though. You think they're going to get a very good sculptor? Okay, we got a sculptor. Don't you worry about a sculptor?

I've seen some of those. Yeah, well, this is drumsticks. Didn't even think about Sal on top of that metal. Yeah, exactly. For sure. Tis-t-t-t-ting. Yeah. T-tong.

Smoke comes out. Mm-hmm. Ting-d-mm-ting. Ting-ting-ting-ting. Ding. Today's Tom's a-e-H! How are you? Yeah, exactly.

So many opportunities. It was worth the wait. I'm happy we did that. I agree. That was awesome. Congratulations of Buffalo Bill is getting right. Good job, Buffalo. You did it.

I'll tell you what, Pugh. The goal is up there doing it. Swinging a hot bat. Big time. How's Penn State hockey? They made it to the tournament, but I think they might have lost. I don't know. The attorney hasn't started.

Sorry, the women's team lost a heartbreaker, was what I saw. But yes, I believe they have heard the first time they made the frozen, whatever. Bull is going to be happy about that and the wrestling win the fifth straight national championship. The hockey team has made it to the Frozen Four. Obviously, the Super Duper Hockey tournament for college hockey. NCAA tournament. 16 teams. Actually, Michigan State and Yukon play on Friday.

Yep. And then their hockey teams play on Thursday. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Kind of sweet. Let's go, boys. Who's going to win this?

Penn State? Oh, Michigan, Michigan State. Western Michigan, all one seeds there, if you notice that. And then North Dakota also a one seed. Western Michigan put a million in, right? Didn't they? They put a bunch of money in, and they were the ones that won it last year, if you remember. This is in Vegas?

That's stupid. They got good ice out there. First time in a while, Minnesota's not in it, by the way. Wow, rowing the boat on the fuck out of there. BC, BU, kind of a weird different year for the journeyman schools. I appreciate and respect to Western Michigan commitment to hockey. It's awesome. It's a lot of, like it's in a massive amount of money directly to hockey, right?

Like $50 million or something? Yeah, all directly to hockey. And then a lot of people were saying that like a team like Minnesota should poach their coach, but they're paying him so much money. He's not going to leave Western Michigan. Western Michigan just becomes an immediate powerhouse while Michigan is also the home to U.S. hockey and everything like that. Yep.

It feels like whoever did the investment is like, hey, we're going to, we're going to own this shit. Yeah. And you actually can, it seems like, in sports, in college sports these days. It's great to have a good alum. Yeah. It's great. Pagula with Penn State, obviously. Macana.

Buffalo Bill. Gets McKenna, yeah, number one overall pick. He's at Penn State. He was supposed to go somewhere else. He's able to do it. Some of these sports, you know, basketball, I guess it's kind of happening as well. You can get some money and get some funds. You can get a team.

You can get a program. He can get inspiration to change everything for the future. There's not a whole lot of places currently where as a hockey player, you can go somewhere and be the big swinging dick on campus. Well, Western Michigan for sure. That's a great point. those guys are the toast of the town there. Penn State maybe, right?

Not with wrestling and, you know. Wrestlers. I forgot about the wrestlers. Why don't you think about the cauliflower you're walking around Happy Valley. Oh my God. No, sir. Yeah.

Jesus. Please. Why is it in Vegas? Come on, man. Good to see you, dude. We're having fun here. Please. We're all on this together, right?

Hockey time. Vegas is a hockey town. It's a high town. It should be in Pittsburgh. It should be in Pittsburgh. It is a tough barn to pull. playing. Especially whenever you're on the stick. Exactly. You think that

Knights? They win that game? I don't remember. You won that game. They played an oil thing? Yeah, they won. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. I'm not defeated. Oh yeah, you win the locker room to celebrate the ball. You're right. You're right. Good point. Shout to Golden Knights. Are they in it this year? Yeah, they go to overtime, damn near every game.

So late. Yeah. I mean, we're talking, Pucks, you know, being picked up at 2 a.m. I just can't do it. I'll fucking do back in when the playoffs get here. But boy, they go to a lot of overtime. They go to a lot of overtime games, a lot. They're on a good side of the playoffs, though, to go on a run in the Western Conference. Exactly.

Stoner coming off I-R. Huge congratulations to the Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team. They won the national championship, and they have four members of their team that won Olympic Gold and now an NCAA championship in 31 days. Congratulations. Good run. They beat Ohio State in the national.

national championship. Wow. Yeah. Buckeyes gave it a go. Gave it a go, but the badgers said, I don't think so. You know, and that's kind of how it goes whenever you're playing Wisconsin women's hockey. They're going to beat you. And not only they can beat you, they're going to celebrate their Olympic gold in your face as well.

Hey, we just did this for America. Now we're doing it for the badgers. Have a good one. They might be. They run campus. Tost. Yeah. I mean, they're on a diet.

So Foxy just said Wisconsin Women's Hockey Dynasty. Yeah, I believe they are on a dynasty right now. They've won a lot of championships in the last couple years. How's our football team ass? Yeah, football team. How's the basketball team? Yeah, they got beat this year, but they're consistently good. Okay, so the women's hockey at Wisconsin is kind of the dynastic run for nine-time national champs.

Well, they're coached by Mark Johnson of the 1980 U.S. men's Olympic gold medal team. Wow. That helps. There he is. There he is. It looks better than ever. That guy, do you believe in miracles? He's like, yeah, that's what we're doing here in Wisconsin every single day.

And I respect that. If McKenzie's on skates and she's got dangles, which I assume she does. I assume she'll have some dangles. Maybe she's playing for Wisconsin someday winning their 20th national championship. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. More women's sports better. If you want her in the dynasty, put a basketball in the hand, and you center up the Stores, Connecticut to play for Gino. Nope. All right.

He's rude. That's the dynasty. No. What he is doing to people's career is uncalled for. What you're supposed to do? That's Syracuse coach cutting that. promo, but what the fuck am I supposed to do around here? Got run into this team every year? Incredible. Unbelievable. I love the promo from her. I appreciate it.

And if I'm Gino up there, you know, I'm saying this is exactly why you come here to Yukon. Did you guys, you gave it up for a little bit, right, though? Wasn't they, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina. Yeah, they've had their runs. South Carolina. Yeah, but they're on a, I think on a 51 game win streak right now, which would probably be like their fifth or sixth or

six longest win streak. He's already won 12. I think he's 12 and one in national championships. Lost one to Don Staley and the South Carolina Gamecocks. But Aze Fudd, one of the best Yukon Huskies when it's all set and done. She was hot last night. Obviously it was a blowout. It was her last game on campus, Gamble Pavilion. She was, I think she had 34, 26 at a half, which outscored Syracuse by herself, eight for 11 from behind a three-point line. The people's princess. She was absolutely, absolute dog. But I don't know. The odds were minus 250 yesterday. I'm not sure what it is now.

I think it was 32-8 at one point early in that game against Syracuse yesterday. And head coach Felicia Leggette Jack came out and said, for us to continue to come to Connecticut year after year after a year, a few year to me is like a personal attack. After being in his business for 37 years and have to come and be in this bracket every year is unacceptable. It is wrong. So I guess four times she's been eliminated here now,

three straight NCAA tournaments. this Yukon team and to your point D but at this round got to travel to Yukon to kind of do it as well I think 30 31 straight sweet 16s like 20-something straight final fours yeah so I mean Yukon's been good since I've been in school yeah Rebecca Lobo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah too my more so Diana to Rossi's just like an absolute dog right that's what we have learned she she she will shit talk you oh yeah she will she will yeah Yeah, big time. Bada you.

I think she knows our program. We're trying to stay on her in good stuff. Always. Shia, Yukon legend, Diana Tarasi. What a fucking legend. She is, though, actual. Yeah. I watched that documentary about her playing...

Overseas? Yeah, and then coming back and doing the whole thing. She feels like a real legend in the whole game. And I don't think she acts like it either. I think she just kind of is still like a dog in the entire world. Yeah, she'll let you know. Yeah, I respect that. Ultimate competitor.

What does she play? like four or five Olympics. Yeah, she should remember Caitlin Clark. Do you think your guys' coach should be forced to retire? Gino? Yeah, what he's doing? Everybody. Look, she's fucking bummed up.

I mean, that was sad. It sucks, you know. You do got to go to their house every year. It's tough. Get the fun. You think Gino should for a good ball? Maybe let some other people experience happiness in this entire thing?

51 straight wins? It's a fair playing. He's playing. What happened once you say, Tone? You said something about maybe the seedings and rankings. aren't always as accurate or something.

Yeah, normally women's torment, you can lock those favorites in, but Iowa lost yesterday as a two seed. We were watching it after the show. Had a lot of opportunities. You know, sometimes the baller just doesn't. Well, you know what happened? Nick took them as a minus 5,000 money line favorite. And if you do that in this office,

why'd you do that? When you could keep preaching, they're going to lose. I took all the favorites money line, and they were put as part of parlay. And at that point, they were up nine, and they just pissed that right away. I would like to let you know that I like the Iowa Hawkeye women's basketball team, especially their new coach. She's been very kind to us. Oh, yeah, she's the goat.

Jan. Yep. Jan Jansson. Jan Janssen. She's very kind. I saw it. She was very animated. I appreciated her passion on the court.

But watching the Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team lose was just, it was strange to me. I based time to you immediately. Yeah, I know. What did Virginia get good? You know what? It's funny. You mentioned that. They've always been good.

Alex O'Hannian, I believe is his name. The guy who founded Reddit, who was married to Serena Williams. he basically said in the offseason, hey, what do I need to do to make sure that we're a contender next year? So he just donated a bunch of money. For Virginia? And it was a double O.T. You know, heartbreaker.

Big country filed out with about Ava Hayden. She filed out with about four minutes left in the game. She's just a perennial bucket get her. So after she went that, Chichat Wright had a little bit of a tough game down the stretch. You missed a lot of free throws, missed a couple shots. A couple big ones. A couple turnovers. But hey, guess what?

That's going to happen. You're going to get got sometimes. The Virginia women's basketball team is getting what UVA calls a multi-year transformational gift from alum Alex O'Hanion, who is married to Serena Williams and has a history of support and investment in women's athletics. He also one of the investors of TGL. Oh, that's right. He's getting a sports. He has a lot of investments in the sports world. I think he is very, very grateful for sports.

And if you're a university that has somebody like that who's a billionaire, you know, found something that may get. That's a good place to be. Yes, it is. So you're telling me I should just expect Virginia to beat Iowa Hawkeye women basketball every single year now? That's what I should be. When big country's filing out with four minutes left in OT, yeah, you should expect that.

Our offense runs through her. I don't know what do you want. What do you want me to do? That's big country. Exactly. We'll be back. We'll be back. But again, rinse, repeat.

That's tough. I'm sorry. We got a fucking game on Thursday. The fucking biggest game on my life. So, again, I'm very proud of what they did this year. Two-seat post-Catwin Clark. Everyone thought they're, were just kind of dissipated into dust.

They did not. Did they choke on their home court at Carver? Sure, they did. But once again, Thursday. We're looking, all eyes are on Thursday. In Nebraska. Exactly. Coach McAllen's boys will be ready to go.

How's the Nebraska's team heard they're tough to beat, huh? They're good. We split this year with them. So, you know, it's one of those things where, hey, we're going to roll the ball out there. We're going to play for 40 minutes, and we're going to let the chips fall where they may. The Huskers are doing it right now

Okay men's basketball Advances the Sweet 16 got a big one Wrestling plays third at the NCAA Championship, how you doing? Softball, 13 game winning streak right now In baseball, top 25 after winning a series Against Michigan Huskers are doing it's impressive

Let alone when Matt Rul is about doing football Figure it out, Coach, big year Huge year To volleyball did well Yeah, because they're selling the stadium Probably Rules house Uh-oh, it's moving up

Yeah, more sponsors this year HBO picked it. You start to think to yourself, does Iowa even have a chance on Thursday? No, no one's thinking that. No one's thinking. I mean, they got one of their best players from last year on Nebraska now.

I have a corn stat from Foxy's pool. The good news for Iowa, getting ahead of this now for the national media ahead of next week's Sweet 16 game, says Scott Nelson. 2025 corn. Iowa has 2.77 billion bushels, all-time record for them,

210 bushels per acre, which is second all-time. great year. Nebraska 1.97 billion bushels, 198.3 bushels per acre. So less acreage, less bushels, and less efficiency per acreage for Nebraska whenever it comes to the corn game. And Nebraska's name is the corn huskers. But, you know, in Iowa, we have the best sweet corn in the country.

We're feeding a lot of people with that. I'm guessing most of Nebraska corns just feed corn. They're giving that the fucking pigs who are rolling around and shit. and cows and stuff like that. No one's eating that corn. Nebraska corn? That's correct. I've heard good things about Nebraska corn. I bet you have.

Omaha steak with some Nebraska sweet corn. I will not disparage Omaha steaks. Everyone knows how we feel about the caramel apple tartlets and the fucking beef as a whole. But if we're talking fucking sweet corn, Iowa's king, brother. Always has been. Always will be. Fucking 2.77 billion bushels. prosperous year. Very good.

All things pointing up. Do you see Illinois is going down to that same location in Houston? The internet is very worried about the amount of bushlights Houston has on hand. What's going on? Legit. This is a story that's not being talked about enough. If every bar in the Houston area near the stadium doesn't have... I'm talking kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs of bushlight, there's going to be a massacre down there. So Bushlight drinkers are infiltrated.

Houston is what you're saying? Big time. Okay, so Iowa is a Bushlight drinking ton. So is Nebraska. And so is... Illinois. And how about Houston at home? I assume they're going to be drinking a lot of Lone Star. Yeah. Oh, I remember Matthew McConaughey did a little fun little origami game.

Oh, yeah. With the can of Lone Star. Time is a flat circle. I don't think I've ever had Lone Star. I assume it's pretty bush-litey. I had a Halloween party once, and someone brought Lone Star. That was me. Yeah. because I was planning on going as Russ Cole, but I didn't, and I was just like, you know what fucking I want to drink some old story?

It was good. I don't think I've had it since then. Is it Bush Lighty? Is it all kind of the same there? But what's your favorite beer? My favorite beer, probably be a Corona. Oh. Premier is just original.

I don't like the premiere. Corona, those Akees. What's that thing that Corona you can put in there and taste like Free Pebbles to Shot something? Oh, wow. Bacardi Lemon, maybe? Maybe. You put a shot in there.

it all tastes like free pebbles. It's a good tropical. I mean, obviously you live tropical life. You're from South Florida. But if I am in a warm climate and I remember that that exists, my day infinitely better. It becomes like a really good day.

So I just got to remember it, though. Yeah, I started drinking beers late. And once I saw fucking Tony Romo, with that corona is in there. Yeah. You're right. Get that. Snoop.

You ever have a coronita? Oh, man. Is that a small one or is that? No, no, no. It's a margarita. Then you just put the coroner. In Pittsburgh, we have yinzeritas. We do with icy light mangoes. Yeah, and it's really good. The mongas natural flavors.

Pittsburgh. Me, you know, I don't really do the beer much anymore. I used to do it too much beer. Natty was. Natty was the go-to. Then Bud Light was the go-to. It was way too much beer. Way too much beer.

So I've moved on from beer. I think if you were, so what's happened? I'm walking in and they're forcing me to get a beer We only serve beers here, sir. All the beers are available on draft. All of them are available. They can't serve liquor though. What time is it?

What time? Have I had dinner? 6 p.m. No, you've not done yet. No dinner yet. I'm not eating yet. 6 p.m. Sun hasn't set yet either.

It's still nice up. Are we heading to dinner? No, it's 65 degrees. You're there. You're sitting outside. No, we're drinking. Oh, I've done the day already. I'm doing a day.

Yeah, your day's over. I'm having one right. Yeah, at 6 o'clock. Let's have 15 beers for a new. You worked hard. You worked hard all weekend. Friday happy. At this stage right now that I'm in,

it's one of them fucking tall ones? Or is it a... Sure, it can be a yard long. They have a pint. They have 24 ounces. You can do whatever you want. It's ice cold. Ice cold.

Frosted glass. Frosty mug. You know what it is. Yeah, you do. If it's ice cold, you know what it is. I think right now I'm probably taking one of them mulchrist.

Thank you, sir. I think I'm probably taking a Mikalowlter. Yeah. And I'm probably... I'm probably making it disappear It is a light beer of some sort I had my Bud Light run And I stopped drinking it for a while

Because I, you know Got Your taste buzz changed Got Yeah for sure It made me I got filled up too much Beer started

I think I got allergic to it I have to be older That's a big thing with the first beer Now they discovered Is you're supposed to pour it out And let it foam up a bunch You know before it's like Oh you don't know how to pour beer

So it doesn't happen in your stomach But if you pour it out and let the foam build in the cup and then it doesn't happen in your stomach you're not burping the whole entire time just for your first beer I'll tell you that has happened to me as I've gotten older as I just get like super full yes back in the day used to be able to just roll

30 of them potentially if that if the night called for it had to do that burp for 10 seconds and you're cool but now now it's like I get full I get sick I'm fucking tired I can't do it I feel old like I feel soft most whenever it comes to the beer consumption it's all about that first beer it's actually changed my life

as far as beer drinking goes, you pour out. You're not like, not perfectly and be like, oh, look at my poor. You pour it out. You get all that foam out in the glass. And then from there on out, you'll be fine. A lot of head. A lot of head, sure, yeah. Well, I tell everybody why?

Head. You're saying what everybody needs is head. Hell of you. You're saying when I'm drinking a beer, I need to make sure I get out the head. I just want to know why the voice like tastes. So different and so much better out of a camo can. An ice cold hunting camo can. Yeah, but you know why.

It's like the PBR, baby. You know why. Because of the camo? Yeah, because your eyes and fucking nose are all together. You're right. It is a full senses experience. Yeah, and your soul. Your soul is in there fucking feeling it through your eyeballs.

And then it's kind of coming back in here. And then it's going down to your mouth into your tongue and your nose. Because when you smell it, it's like, oh, this one smells like it's going to have a lot of flavor. Yeah. You know, so that kind of is tied directly to it. But the camouflage shuts it all down. Kind of cornered the market on camo cans. Tell out the keystone, baby.

Keylight? Yeah. I forgot about Keystone. Oh, yeah. That's just bottom of the barrel of course lights, my dad said. Rest in peace. High life. Wendell.

My dude. I got to drink some beers or one. Yeah. When did he pass? A while ago. A couple years. He was a while. He was a beer truck, man?

Yeah. He was fucking elected. He was living the high life. First time I met him, we're at an event. There was a car at the event. Just somebody brought a really nice car. There were some photos happening. He just hopped on the car, like, just hopped on the car for the photo.

Was laying on it and then just gets up. I'm like, who's cars that? He goes, I don't know. And just, he's. Yeah. That's Wendell, I'm like, I fucking love this. It's a high life. This guy is the greatest.

He was electrified. I was only around him, I think, like four, maybe three, four times. Every time he was the most electric. It was the only time I would drink. life just to show my respects to him at the time. That's great. I didn't really like the taste of. Yeah, it was not great.

Yeah, I didn't really like that taste. Diesel, you drink that over in Ohio, right, AJ? I know what you guys are drinking? Just diesel only? Heavy's? No, Coors Light's big here, obviously. Coors Light, Silver Bullets, Ohio State, Silver Bullets defense.

Oh, yes. I forgot about that. All the mountains are blue. Ladies' Jammy, huge day tomorrow. Huge day tomorrow. What we got? Cody Rhodes will be live in studio. Oh, wow.

Odie. What? time speaking since Randy Orton snapped at the contract signing and then took a chair and habilital eyes. Kelly Rose's head in between the chair and the stairs. You know, subject to change. Obviously, we have no idea what's going to happen in the next 24 hours. We're excited and thankful that he is allowing us to be the ones to, you know, hear his thoughts.

If he hasn't him. Yeah. Hopefully he does. I'm sure he does. Guys, always got thoughts. Well, what you want to talk about? We do have some things we want to talk about. We do have some things we want to talk about.

He might not even remember his name. That's what I'm, we're worried. We don't know. We'll find out tomorrow. Are we on the road? I believe they are on the road to WrestleMania. They're on the road of WrestleMania. And I'll tell you what.

That's the next premium live event. Yeah. Vegas, baby. They got the Frozen Four happening out in Vegas. Second year in a row. I couldn't find a new location. Well, I think they might have mailed it, actually. Vegas was a pretty good home.

Vegas was a pretty good home. Your tournament. Kind of mailed it in on that one. What's that? the college basketball gimmick tournament? It's the college basketball Crown debauch. Boom, there we go.

May 12th, I think it starts. Yeah. Oh, okay, so that'd be after. That's not my tournament. That's sports tournament. The tournament. Okay. That's where we find out who's the best.

Is it West Virginia or is it the Toronto Blue Jays? Whoever wins plays the Nadi champion. Wait, are they getting the crown? Yeah. The crown is ours. Mm-hmm. Boy, they better beat the team. Be your friend, tell him something nice.

It might change your life or not this thing together. Life is good. Let's remember. Kelly Rhodes coming here. It's a pretty big deal, it feels like. Yeah. Hope he's all right. Me too.

Last time I saw him, he was in between some chairs and a stair. Bleeding. Yeah. And then now, I think Randy's wearing a shirt that just has blood. RKO everybody with blood. Is that the worst beatdown since the final boss got on my side of his bus? I don't know. Bronson Reed's legs.

Get it jumping off of that. That's a good point. Cincinnati Street Fight at Mania, we were there. That was fucking brutal blood and guts. Didn't that one guy get hurt too? Yeah. Be your friend. He's talking about Adam Copeland?

He's not in the WWE, but he all... No, breaker? Kevin something. Steen? Yeah. You're talking about Kevin Owens. Yeah. There it is.

He's got very good. Maybe he's on road wrestling. Maybe he's on road wrestling. It would be good to see him back. He's electrifying. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice and might change your life. We're in this thing together.

AJ, anything you say to the team here? No, I think I'm good today. You guys did great. So do you. How'd you feel about the NFLPA convoy with J.C. Treter? Do we feel good about the guy that's in the super duper chair now? Yeah, I mean, J.C. is a smart guy.

He was a rookie. I was with him his rookie year in Green Bay. He used to be much bigger. Obviously, his head, I feel like was a lot bigger as well. He was a strong dude. But yeah, he was, we knew coming in. He was a Cornell guy. Like, he was one of those, like, super smart guys.

So, yeah, he's an impressive guy. I do appreciate that we learned in real time that he went to Cornell to study labor relations. Should have that probably going in. But hey, journalism, be a friend, tell a friend something. I do help him and Pablo get along and move forward. He kind of throws a gauntlet down, so.

I do not expect that reaction. I should have done a little bit more research. It feels like. I don't know. I'm like, hey, Pablo's got courage. We go out there and do it. Yeah, he does. I like him to maybe get it right.

Oh, there's real heat rate. That was a bar. I loved it. Just released the article. I didn't know that either. Reeves just basically laid out everything Boblo said and then everything that was wrong. Yeah, so hopefully they'll come together, you know, for good players.

That's right. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. We'll be back tomorrow with another show. We hope you watch.

And we hope you enjoy a nice cold beer night if you want to. Not too many, obviously, but maybe. Three four beer. Drink responsible. Five, six beer. Definitely do that. And remember, the crown is about to be ours. We're on top of it, aren't we, Tony?

We are always on top of it. No, I've been losing a lot, actually. It kind of been, you know. Yeah, but you're staying on top of it. You're trying. Yeah, but I've been away from it, most of it. I need to get, I need a crown. Yeah.

I'm doing whatever hammered Don tells me to do. Me too. I don't know if that's... We're going to hammer down to the crime. We're going to hammer down to the crime. Yeah. I like that. That's what we're going to do.

All right. I'm pumped for doing that. Hell you. Team on me. Fuck yeah. Hammer down to the crown. Undefeed last night. So, yeah.

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be a friend tell friends something nice might change your life we're in this thing together team on me team on three one two three two three team goodbye