The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1536 - Utah Jazz/Mammoth Owner Ryan Smith, Kendrick Perkins, Mike Trout, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys chat about tonight’s play-in games in the NBA and the playoffs as a whole, as well as the NHL playoffs starting, MLB continuing to heat up..., the 2026 NFL Draft being just a few days away, and a little surprise from WWE World ahead of WrestleMania 42 this weekend. They’re also joined by several great guests including Utah Jazz/Mammoth owner Ryan Smith; 15 year NBA veteran, NBA Champion, and now ESPN NBA analyst, Kendrick Perkins; and 3x AL MVP, 11x All-Star, 9x Silver Slugger, Center fielder for the Los Angeles Angels, Mike Trout. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, Enjoy WrestleMania weekend, we’ll see you on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome. On this WrestleMania Eve, Feel Good Friday, April 17, 2026. This program begins now. Sport! Our fantastic, and obviously we have NBA playing games tonight to decide two teams that are going to be able to punch their ticket into the playoffs. Who can potentially chase immortality on this massive weekend? Will La Mello Ball and the Charlotte Hornets?
Starting point is 00:00:30 who had a absolute thriller over the Miami Heat in the first round of the play-in-game tournament. Take on the Orlando Magic, and I'll tell you what, don't want to give any spoilers away, but on this particular Friday, as the past couple Fridays, we'll be doing the, oh, no, segment. Nice. That Orlando Magic team is in the segment. Nobody's happy with how they're playing, but they still have a chance to potentially make the playoffs, and then Steph Curry, back from injury late in the season, alongside Draymond Green, who's pickpocketing and going crazy as if it was, like, 2015.
Starting point is 00:01:00 all over again. Draman and Steph Curry going crazy, taking on the Phoenix Sons in an Ishbia-owned team that says he wants it to be like Coach Izzo up there in Michigan State. Devin Booker's an animal, obviously. They've had a lot of transition, a lot of change. Maybe they make it into the playoffs, but
Starting point is 00:01:15 Steph Curry, in a play-in-in-type situation, I like that for him. He is seeing a big hoop right now, and he's also talking his shit. We got the shoulder shimmy first game back from injury, and then in the last game against the Clippers, he had a game winner, huh? Step back, roundabout, in the crowd. Almost rolls his ankle. Good potential hurt himself. Who knows, somebody punched him in there. He's asking the Clippers phase.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Did that go in? Did that go in? I can kind of hear it. I kind of feel that it won. Out of the hand, it felt good. But is that one in or is that not in? That's what this dude has obviously done to basketball. And anytime we get a glimpse of what he did to Hoops Forever at its highest form and he's back, maybe Golden State goes crazy. Whoa. Now, Everybody in the West has obviously knows that the Oklahoma City Thunder exist. And everybody understands that Joker's still over there in Denver. And LeBron James, he's 41. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And then in the East, because the Pacers are not in the playoffs or the playouts. And Detroit is obviously the number one seed, waiting on the Hornets potentially, if they're able to get a win tonight over Orlando for a rivalry matchup in the first round of the NBA playoffs. But we got to get the Celtics are always. Yeah. We got to remember the Celtics exist. That's right. And then the Knicks, they're saying we're winning this year.
Starting point is 00:02:33 We were built to win this year. I heard people on TV who know this a lot better than I am with sources connected and everything. They're like, Knicks are actually built to go on a run right now. It's like, the Knicks are going to be back? And I forgot last year, they made all the way to finals, fired their coach. That's right. Expectations are they got to win at all. NBA playoffs should be spectacular.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We'll have Kendrick Perkins joining us in about 20 minutes or 30 minutes or so to chitch out about his opinions on the playoffs, the teams, and also the awards that he votes for. Oh, yeah. Need it. People are not happy with him. No, they're pissed. Big Perk, baby. That's Big Perk basketball.
Starting point is 00:03:05 He don't care. That really is Big Perk basketball. He'll go carry on. That's kind of his thing. We're excited to get a chance to catch up with him again. There was a time not too long ago where Perk was going to potentially be in a Thunderdome once a week. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That got shut down before it really even got started. It was incredible. We enjoy Big Perk. Now, some of the things Big Perk says, obviously get a lot of people flub. And we don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but we enjoy that. Hell, that big perk cannot wait to catch up with him and just ask him why I decided to piss everybody off and say, hey, I got some votes that are up for grabs, actually.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what, Big Night Tonight can win you all NBA. You know that little ball? Okay. I was supposed to be three teams of this entire thing. I still, that third one, hey, you tell me. I cannot wait to hear a perk talk about why he is voting, how he is voting. This is just like in the NFL, whenever voters say they did whatever they did for whatever
Starting point is 00:03:55 reason. It's like, that's bias. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to do that. Anytime humans are doing things, though, there's always going to be some bias. I like the purchase said, it's up for grabs. Have a big night. You can potentially hit all NBA. Go get it. That'll get you 30, 40 more million. Good luck out there. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I appreciate that. Ryan Smith, owner of the Utah Jazz, not into playing or the playoff. They've been played out. Yeah. Big time. A long time ago. They got fine for the way they were potentially playing themselves out. He's the owner of the jazz, but let's flip that into a positive sports conversation.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Also the owner of the Utah Mammoth in the NHL, guess what? They're in a playoffs. Yes, they are. Second year there to the day. They announced the team was coming from Phoenix to Utah on this particular day two years ago. Phoenix had 10 years of the worst seasons in the NHL, worst record in the 10 years
Starting point is 00:04:45 straight of it. Ticket sales 30th in the last year, 29, 28 for the last 10 years in ticket sales. They're playing in Arizona State for a while. Just every, everything. thing about them just ass. Ticket sales, ass. Performance on ice. Ass. Team Morrell. Ass. Investment in team. Ass. Everything somehow, even though so many ex-hockey players out in Phoenix, and we love the city of Phoenix. I think a lot of people said it was potentially because
Starting point is 00:05:10 ownership wasn't able to get a new deal for a new arena because he had pissed off the government potentially. But anytime you do that, you obviously have to take taxpayer money. I think the taxpayers would like a hockey team. Whatever, it got ugly in Phoenix with the coyotes. Utah mammoth owner Ryan Ryan Smith of Utah Jazz. We just so happen to be friends with this guy. We just so happen to know him because whenever we went out for college game, for a Utah Bayu, Utah, I think, no, maybe it was Utah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I think it was Utah, BYU. Yeah, but it's at Utah, though. Wasn't that BYU? Correct. It was at Utah. I think it was Utah. To Utah, Oregon? I don't know. I don't know if it was BYU. USC maybe. It wasn't BYU. It was not the Holy War. Or, yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:48 maybe or whatever the case. We went out to Utah, incredible. The scene's beautiful. and we got invited to go to a basketball game, and it was long travel out there. It was pretty late in the season. I was like, nah, I'm going to go ahead and sleep here. I'm a little bit exhausted. Then it was like, hey, owner would like you to potentially come to the game.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I'm like, okay, where am I sitting in this thing? And then you say, you're on the bench. It's like, I'll go. Fine. I'll go be a member of the Jazz, I guess. I'll go do it. We all went. We had a group that went over there.
Starting point is 00:06:14 We were next to Dwayne Wade. On the other side, you guys were next to the way. So they were like, we're like, we're like, hey, we'll take care of it. We thought there's a once in a lifetime. This is outrageous. We're doing this. And I also looked him up.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Young guy, self-made billionaire two times, like kind of the next generation seemingly of what sports ownership is going to look like. Cool guy. Got a chance to meet him. Got a chance to meet his family. Talk to him. And yeah, like, he's of our age so we can, like, talk shit to him. But he has certainly done so many things in life already at a young age.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And I think he is a pretty pure thinker, like the way he wants to kind of make things better. So whenever he bought the NHL team, we were actually, I think, a part of a conversation with him about like, hey, what he should expect, why he should expect. And then he worked that thing for a while, a couple, like a year, I think year and a half, two years. He didn't know if there was going to be an expansion team.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Didn't know if he was going to get a team. They didn't know what they were going to do. Relocation of Phoenix, because of their ticket sales, because of how ass they were on the ice, he ends up being able to buy it. I think it was like a pretty like, hey, 24 hours, we need, okay, we're doing this. We just made the decision.
Starting point is 00:07:10 We're kind of doing this, or it's going to do it. I think it all came together relatively quickly, even though it was being worked for a long time. Gary Bettman, uh, commissioner of the NHL, obviously a massive piece of it all. And they didn't know, the NHO didn't know exactly how it was going to go. I think that Ryan Smith
Starting point is 00:07:24 was selling it and it's just been a home run. Yeah, yeah. New arena, new traditions, new rivalries. The malls. New malls, do facilities. Like everything is just blown up out there because the people of Utah love sport. And he also just like, I think they, it's something to go, I don't
Starting point is 00:07:41 want to say do, but like, it is something to go do. It's every night is an event. So I, I'm happy for Ryan. He'll be joining us here in a few moments. He, uh, he's doing it. Big time. He's really doing it. Toxic tables here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt Conman. Uh, we're about to hit playoffs here for a while. You know, we got WrestleMania here tomorrow night and Sunday night on ESPN's platforms. Tomorrow on ESPN 2 for the first hour. Sunday on ESPN for the first hour. Then the rest through ESPN premium. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Oh, I'll live it. Make sure you get it. Yes. So that's incredible. On the other side of that, sports are about to deliver in a huge way. Draft next week, but it's not just that. No, not at all. Super Bowl wrestling, of course, kicks it off tomorrow and Sunday. But we're talking about playoffs every single day, probably for the next six weeks. I mean, it is one of the times you think about after football ends. Like, hey, once NBA and NHL playoffs start, then sports are really going to kick up again. I think we have three or four games Saturday, NBA, three or four games, Saturday, NHL. Same thing Sunday. And then Monday it continues.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I know there's a couple cities, one in particular, that has multiple playoffs going on at the same time. You could say Boston I'm talking about. And some of the scheduling is a little interesting. I think some people are pretty pissed at the Celtics and Bruins are going to be playing on the exact same night at the exact same time. But that's just the thing that you need to kind of reel in when you're a sports fan. Hey, you come from a city that has greatness oozing from it, especially when it comes to sports. I had no idea this is going to turn into this. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Me neither. honestly, but sometimes that's where it goes. We're talking about the Pittsburgh Penguins. The Penguins and the Pirates, I'm sure there's going to be a Penguins game and Skins Day going at the same exact time. Those are going to be tough, tough things to balance. But this is one of those very underrated times in sports
Starting point is 00:09:34 where even if you're not huge NBA, even if you're not huge NHL, you can go on to draft Kings, place a bet, and all of a sudden you're a fan of that team. Also, there's just always something on. Last night was weird. You're sitting there like, what do I do? Watch Mission Impossible, Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Sure, I'll do that. Yes. But it'd be much cooler if there was, like, meaningful games on. Even tonight with the playing will be cool. But once these playoffs really start to go, even the first round, especially in the NHL, start to finish, those are amazing. Like, this is a fantastic sports time.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah, and the draft next week, absurd. So many storylines are about to develop. And one half of the hammer, died. Cowboys, AP, tone, rocking an incredible uniform. Yeah. Just a good uni out of the Pittsburgh Pirates Ball Club. Yeah, thank you for sending them. the Bucco's. This is the city connects. They will be wearing them tonight. Bobba Chandler is on the
Starting point is 00:10:19 mound. Scheme's on the mound tomorrow for his bobblehead night. Bucco's gave one away yesterday, but they're hot. Baseball's doing it. The draft, fully engulfed in the draft. Fully engulfed. Best time of the year. Then we have the playoffs. We got mania. Life is good. Life is great. It's feel good Friday. Draft. Anything crazy happening right now that we need to keep an eye upon? Not really. I mean, this is what the guys, the draft people always say, like this is the most dangerous week of all because teams are trying to get messages out there and it's mostly bullshit. You got to keep your head straight on these sources that you have, brother. Especially as the drafts spectacular, we are just six days away from Thursday, April 23rd,
Starting point is 00:11:00 live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which is the hometown of many of us that will be up on that stage. And then we'll be trying to provide a little analysis on what's going on who the player is, why the team potentially made the move, but also different perspectives. As you can see there right next to us, that big guy right there is from Pittsburgh, even though he tries not to claim it. Yeah, that's weird. Which is odd. It is odd, because he's one of the most.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Even though it's tattooed on him. Yeah, it's literally on his back. Yeah. Like a kitchen tat. Team draft. Prison tat. Team drafts is, I'm pretty sure. You got one of those.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah. Extended them. Yeah, you get it. He'll be there. AQ. Shipley. Conman, D. Buts is going to be breaking it down. Potential DB drama in this particular thing. Not only that entire defense, we appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You dare to travel in Pittsburgh, man. Cannot wait. It's a big time. It is. My draft season is the best. It's the one time where all 32 franchises really have kind of like the same level of hope. You can draft that next Hall of Fame of your next starting quarterback. Your next star wide receiver, you know, a lot of new iterations of teams with new head coaches, new GM.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So I'm excited about the draft. Sweet shirt. For usual. Sweet shirt. Yeah, it's a really cool shirt. Yeah, it's many weekends. So you got to be ready to knock. I think he's WWU Hallfamer.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah. I think he's WVOLFAM. Special enforcer. Yeah. Yeah, that's a sick shirt, though. Yeah. Thank you. Don't go.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I mean, heat refrigerators. And I've been working, you know. I hope everybody, you know, I was showcasing a little bit while Randy was going. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of in there. Okay, let's go. Not just debuts.
Starting point is 00:12:31 AJ will be there. Coach Cower will be joining us. Obviously, he is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Peter Schrager in Tone Diggs will be in a ball-knowers trailer in the back, obviously, with Schrager understanding why GMs are making moves, or if GMs are potentially, thinking about making moves. In Ton Diggs, who's been studying this draft class for the last three months,
Starting point is 00:12:50 literally daily. So he will be able to tell us every single specification about every single athlete that is drafted and how they did in college. Shraggs will break down why the teams were thinking that decision. Coach Kauer will tell us how that will fit into the scheme. A.J. Hawk will try to be toxic, and Ty Schmidt will not be there once again. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:08 This guy. I'd love to be there with you guys. You miss it every single year, Ty. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do? You know, it's just one of those things where had I known scheduling-wise, that this would be the case. I would have... I am kind of disgusted at the fact that we have only kind of grown in this entire business program.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Maybe so every year. Every year. And you still somehow make the same mistake. I know. Every single... You would love the draft spectacular. People say that it's one of our better things that we do. And I think the reason why a lot of people say is,
Starting point is 00:13:41 is because we have our own draft guru and mad movers. Kiper and I think I know you've ever got to meet him you would love this guy Ty and it's a shame don't you think debud yeah absolutely he's the pro he's obviously set the standard when it comes to draft coverage uh one day you guys meet hopefully I hope so I'm trying to break bread with the guy we had Mon a couple times every once in a while he usually kind of shuts that down right away you know calls me a barrage of different names and so it's kind of like you know what at this point you know we're just two ships you know passing in the night unfortunately I mean I'd love to be there in Pittsburgh with you guys it's just hey it wasn't in the
Starting point is 00:14:14 cards this year. Well, in the cards for the Utah Mammoth is at least a playoff run that has begun in their second year of existence. To the day, two years ago, this man in his family became owners of an NHL franchise. Since then, they've gone all in. Paying players, building facilities, setting new standards. And now, debuting a Zameth. What? A what?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah, they gimmicked up to Zambo. It's been there the whole time. Samith. It's sick. That type of gimmick has been sitting there the whole time. And they go, you know what? We got a brilliant idea. That's good. They got people standing on top.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They did the opening hit for the game last night, live from Zameth. They're rolling around like they were Ty Schmidt at a golden knight. Just kind of rolling around. They're rolling around and their fans were in the back clapping. You know, I think there definitely was a point where the open took maybe 45 seconds to a minute. When you hear that, 45 seconds to a minute, that's not that long. After like 10 seconds of standing behind somebody doing it, there is like a, okay. Okay. We got another 40 seconds here.
Starting point is 00:15:17 There's a little bit of that on the Samoth. But obviously Utah hockey fans understand what to do. They're creating new traditions, and it's going to be a winning tradition, I do believe, over there. Joining us now, the owner of the mammoth and the jazz and the Ryan Smith Sports Group. That sounds right, RSSG. And owner of Qualtricks, ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Smith.
Starting point is 00:15:41 So, fellas. Can I hit it? Smith Entertainment Group. SEG. SEG. Oh, yeah. Big thing. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That's right. I forgot. I knew there was a, you know, I knew. Yeah. And we tried to get there. We try to list it all off. What I wanted to say mostly was, we're incredibly impressed by you. How old are you again?
Starting point is 00:15:58 I just turned 47. Happy birthday, man. Damn. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, right. Happy birthday, man. 47, you've sold your survey company two times, I do believe. You end up becoming the owner of your childhood team, the Utah Jazz.
Starting point is 00:16:13 you pitch so much for the state of Utah in the sports world that you lobby basically Gary Bettman to give you an opportunity to become an owner of an NHL team. You get a team there. You sell out 100% of the tickets. There's some photos of some games where maybe the seats aren't filled, but those tickets have already been sold because people want to come. They just couldn't make it that particular evening, which isn't great,
Starting point is 00:16:33 but we're two years into this entire thing. And we also made the playoffs. So we would just like to do hat tip to you, sir. Happy 47th birthday, man. Way to go, Ryan. You've kind of done it. Can you tell me about it? Yeah, I mean, look, I've got a great group both on the ownership side and, you know, obviously our organization.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I mean, two years ago, you know, pretty much to the day, walked into a conference room in Arizona and literally told 70 people that they were traded to Utah, which is kind of a unique thing. And just the hockey culture and the vibe, everyone believed. And, you know, we told them to trust us. And in sports, you know, sometimes there's not that much trust. it was incredible they trust us the city came in the fans came in received the team and it's just been it's just been a vibe since day one i mean like you can't make it up because there was there was really no data that hockey would do what it's done in utah um you know there wasn't the rinks here there wasn't the youth hockey here and it's been pretty much sold out every single night and
Starting point is 00:17:40 the playoffs are going to be epic yeah i think it's actually the next step of this story, which is pretty sweet. Yeah, expedited pretty quickly. Only two years to get to the next step is crazy. And there's been a lot of success for teams whenever they make it to the playoffs for the first time in the past. And let's talk about the success of the team. Whenever you walk into a conference room in Phoenix and say they've been traded to Utah, you wanted to keep as many people as possible and told them they're going to be okay
Starting point is 00:18:02 as our connection is probably unstable there. Maybe in Utah. Is it us? Is it you? It's always him. It's always him. No, but it could be us to do. It would be like a big class.
Starting point is 00:18:13 rolling over that mountain in his back yard right now. Oh yeah, I forgot. Might I just turn the Zammoth on. That cloud's coming around the mountain when it comes. Yeah, exactly. The cloud. Every time you're on the phone with that guy, it's always him. They're building another Zammoth,
Starting point is 00:18:27 so they're probably channeling the energy from the sun and lightning and stuff. You know what? Somebody didn't get tusks up. Somebody was like this, Tusk up, and then in the middle of the conversation, just kind of was like, you don't put my tus down, actually,
Starting point is 00:18:41 in the... Yep. potentially what happened. What did Big J. Perhaps. Maybe he might have put a hat on. Big J. Put his tuss down? Yeah, maybe put his tuss down. Maybe pull the plug that he wasn't supposed to trying to plug in like a light bulb. Joining us, Ryan Smith.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Maybe Big J. put the tusk down. Maybe that's what happened. Something that happened somewhere. Yeah, I think so. So you going down into Phoenix, though, in telling 70 people that they've been traded, okay, to Utah, which is a part of sports, obviously, but that massive is crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And you genuinely wanting them to feel as if, hey, I am just lucky to inherit what I am inheriting here, and I want you to feel comfortable and giving them every option they possibly can. And I don't know what the turnover rate was. But for 10 years, they were the worst in a league. Okay? Worse than a league on the ice. And then off the ice, the tickets like worse than a league, like off the ice worse than a league. Investment worse than a league. And then they get up to your place and we're in the playoffs in two years. We got traditions. We got fans. We got like a culture, everything like that. Now, obviously you're going to get a lot of credit for that, as you absolutely should,
Starting point is 00:19:47 but why do you think that was? Why do you think a lot of similar people that were working in Phoenix kind of relocate to Utah and are able to have success? Because I think everybody in sports thinks you have to change everything to have success. And normally the everything isn't just a location. Normally it's like the people in what positions. Why do you think that happened? Do you think, Ryan?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, I mean, look, it was a little more like Gary was pretty adamant when we came in that Gary Betman was like, we got to start a. over. It's a new franchise. We're going to leave the kind of the history and the legacy. Very similar to OKC a little bit in Seattle. And it was unique. And we did.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You know, fortunately, you know, we brought in, you know, Chris Armstrong to run it with Bill Armstrong and Coach Bear, they've done incredible job. We had a bunch of young talent. And we brought in a lot of guys, right?
Starting point is 00:20:41 So, and the amazing things happen where, you know, we've signed Dylan Gunther to an eight-year deal, Logan Cooley to an eight-year deal, Nick Schmaltz to a recent eight-year deal. We brought in, you know, Sergi and McKinsey Weeger and J.J. Peraturka. And, you know, obviously, Captain Keller, who's leading us. You know, we've got people waving their no-trade clauses to come to Utah. We've got six first-round picks that are sitting in our system coming up, and all of our picks going forward. And so we're in a pretty incredible spot
Starting point is 00:21:15 that this is going to be an epic run. But I think more than anything, like you look at what a fan base can do. I mean, they are fanatical. That's what fans are sure for. Like, it has been epic. And, like, I think that's the biggest part is, you know, us doing our job
Starting point is 00:21:36 from an ownership standpoint, giving them everything they need, management doing their job, and building this thing, and being patient, but also being aggressive. And then the third leg of this is just our community and our fan base,
Starting point is 00:21:50 giving these people something to come in and play for every night. And it's amazing. Yeah, I got a chance to be in that building, that facility. It's like you're walking in a resort in the cafeteria. I mean, it was, it was great, man.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And then your vision for what you're building and the other businesses that are blooming off of this stuff, I feel like you feel a sense of pride in the state of Utah, just trying to give back to the state of Utah. But I think you're bringing a lot of shit to Utah as well, brother. I think you should look in a mirror, maybe job well done. Now, on that note, can I ask you
Starting point is 00:22:20 about the team that isn't in the playoffs? Yeah, for sure. Hey, so, I read, okay, I'm not in the weeds on this thing. I don't get every memo. Do you get every memo? No. No. I don't get every memo either. I just read what I see online. Yeah, that's right. I heard you got fined.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Okay, you. How many teams are in the NBA? 30. 30, okay. And I'm seeing 25 points, but I'm seeing it. Oh, yeah. A lot of history. A lot of history.
Starting point is 00:22:46 But I read that you got fined because you're trying to lose. Okay. So that's what I read, right? Yeah. That is you read? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So I would like to let you know as a blind jazz believer, okay, because you're the owner, and I've been on the wood before. I'm pissed that we're losing games on purpose. Now, you were the only one, I think that got this particular thing, maybe another team. And in the history of basketball,
Starting point is 00:23:15 the fact that you two thought of doing this, okay, is disgusting. And I would like you to apologize for creating something that might happen in the future now. Okay? And that goes back to you being fined alongside the Pacers, sir. So. Oh, you want to come here? How much time do we got? Plenty.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I would like to know, how do you feel about this situation? Whenever you think about the situation, how do you, because I assume you have to answer this question a lot, especially probably with your own fans, with that's what the headline is. I mean, I assume this is something that you are, and with what you're doing with the mammoth, clearly you're not a person that's trying to lose
Starting point is 00:23:55 for the city or state of Utah in Salt Lake and everything that's going on up there. So like it's an interesting little dilemma that's literally happening in the same city with the same ownership. And on this side saying, hey, this guy, not good for the league, but on this side,
Starting point is 00:24:10 Hey, this guy might be. But we're running in the same fashion. It's the same wallet, right? Yes. Let's back up, because I think all of this is a downstream issue to something else. So, first of all, the NBA product's freaking amazing. Look at the plan. I don't know if you guys have been watching the playing games.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's insane. Oh, yeah. And there's a lot working. What I love about the NBA, we're not afraid to battle it out with each other in these groups. Adam's created a culture where we, sit there, there's input from everyone, there's no shortage of ideas of how to fix this, what goes on. The challenge is, you know, every action we take, whether it's a CBA or something has an equal opposite reaction. And I think what we're seeing on this part is an opposite reaction
Starting point is 00:25:00 to some actions that we're taking before. But what I love about the league is we fix it. And so I think we're going to go into this offseason, we're going to fix it. So to the that I'm not ducking. Look, what is the rebuild experience? I come from the experience world with Qualtricks. What is the rebuild experience in the NBA? Okay? We're going to have 30 teams.
Starting point is 00:25:25 We now have two more that are looking online, great markets. You're going to have eight to ten teams every year that are going to have to pull into the pit, put new gas in the car, and change out the tires. It's just the math. How long do we want them in there for? Do we want them in there for four years? Do we want them in there for five years?
Starting point is 00:25:46 And one of their options to go get out of that pit? Number one, they can go sign free agents. Well, there's no free agency. There's not one all-MBA free agent right now. Okay? So that leg of the stool is kind of gone. Second, your trade. Your trade team.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Trading's hard. You know, we've done that in Utah. We tried a bunch. We were successful at the deadline with a, you know, that we're so excited about. and Jaron Jackson Jr. that came in. We gave up a lot, and we're super excited about that. The third is the draft.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And so if you're a rebuilding team, and you're saying, hey, how do I get out of this? It's put a lot of pressure on that draft. And then you come in and you've got a world-class draft like you have this year with arguably some marquee players. And you're also, you know, I came in new to the league. This is my four and a half, fifth year, how it is. We started out when I took over. We were number one in the league in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Whatever. We've got to pull that car into the pit for whatever reason. And then we're here and we go into this draft process. I'm also taking over a franchise. Never won the lottery. Never moved up in the draft. You know, at some point the mask got to start mathing. Like, how do you do that?
Starting point is 00:27:06 And the odds. And you're seeing that from a bunch of teams. So we're going to figure out a solution. I trust Adam. The ownership group's incredible around the league. We're not afraid to battle it out. There's options about flattening it. There's options about putting restrictions in there.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But the most important thing is what is the rebuild experience for the NBA and how long do we want these teams to come in? And I think the difference this year that's probably kind of startling everyone is fan bases. are actually on board for maybe the first time I've seen in history of, hey, you've got 10 teams. We want our teams to be down in a level. Now, when you go out on the court, I don't care who you are. Like, our players are playing to win.
Starting point is 00:27:57 This is their livelihood. This is their contract. You saw that with us. You know, we didn't finish with the worst record. We were fourth or fifth. Like, our guys want to win every single night. They want big contracts. This is our opportunity.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And so that's a long answer, but I think it comes in that order where if you look at everything being categorized as tanking, it's not the way to look at it. There's a rebuilding process for eight to ten teams every year that are going to have to go through that. And so that's the process that we should be looking at. And the lottery in the draft is kind of a downstream effect of that. and so I hope you win the lottery man
Starting point is 00:28:41 yeah I hope you win the lottery because that literally sounds like what it is you know because what last year the Mavs won it and they had like the low whatever percent chance that's the lottery baby yeah that's law I guess that is it's called a lottery
Starting point is 00:28:55 it's called a lottery for a reason I mean it's you know it's Vegas what did you end up at what did you end up at last year fourth seventh we we had the best odds we ended up fifth I think my first year we had seventh odds
Starting point is 00:29:08 We ended up ninth, and then we were stayed the same one year. So like, let's be honest. Like, it hasn't, I mean, luck determines a franchise. It's also like, I mean, that's the way it is. That's a part of this. But there's a lot of pressure on that. And, you know, I'm just glad to be out of that position moving forward. And we're on and we're building.
Starting point is 00:29:30 We'll see, buddy. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah, we don't know about that. But I do appreciate your take where it's like, hey, as an owner, and as everybody that works here, how are we supposed to get good? How are we supposed to get good if we're not good at this moment? And it's a very player kind of run league.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You talked about there's no all NBA free agents. They get traded and then do new deals, right? And then it's kind of just like wherever they're deciding to get traded to, which a lot of the guys at the top who are running programs can, hey, I won't go there. I'm out of here. We've seen it in the past. Not everybody can do that.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Obviously be who you can afford to be. But franchise changing guys can do that. That is why they're franchise changing. guys. And what your argument is, I think, like, that guy's never going to be available for me to, like, even woo him over. Like, hey, come look at a mountain up here, dude. This place is awesome. Look, I don't think that way. Like, I believe, I believe we're going to win a championship here in Utah. I'm looking at Kiante and Lowry and Ace Bailey and Jaron Jackson, Jr. Walker Kessler, and all of our picks going forward. Like, there's no woe as me here at all.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, we're going to go do it. I mean, I got Danny A.m. I mean, I got Danny A.m. Austin Ains, like I feel like we got the best group that I've seen. I am so freaking bullish on the NBA, and I'm bullish on where we are as Utah going forward. Both of these organizations that I get the blessing to be a part of, we're going to have one hell of a run. Like, it is going to be a good time to be a Utah sports fan. I know I just heard a little Boston love or too many teams of the play. That's going to be our world for a long time. And so I'm excited about that, but also coming out of the Boston.
Starting point is 00:31:08 place we've been for the last four years. I'm empathetic that somehow we've got to get those teams at the bottom getting the guys and getting back out onto the track. Yeah. I appreciate your thoughts. I like that you're in the rooms where these are happening as well. I appreciate you forward thinking
Starting point is 00:31:24 for sports and trailblazing for us young guys trying to get into the sports world. You're crushing it, man. Congratulations. You guys too. Appreciate you all. Hey. Toss on. Tuss up, bro. Tuss up. I like that. A lot of... Look what you started.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Look what you started, fellas. Look what you started. It's going to happen. It's on our big screen. Were those real? That all happened here. Yeah. Or were those AI generated with the, uh, the booze in them.
Starting point is 00:31:50 No, those are real mammoth tusks and then they made them. You got booze tusks out there? This is awesome. In the mugs. Is this the, what? Tusk mug. I see Leet. Ice.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Oh my gosh. Beer stays colder in there. I can get one of those, Ryan? What are the, you guys are giving those out? Send some? We'll send them. They'll be there. Are those ice cold?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Can I put those in a freezer? 50. An ice cold tusk mark. Are you putting Diet Coke in there, Ryan? Is ice cold diet cogs? Of course. The Tushty? Equal opportunity.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Whatever you want to put in. See, that's why I love you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Smith. His bartender knows. Jack and die, please, sir. Thank you so much. Ice cold tusk, I would like. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Ryan needs to turn all of his shoes the same direction. and maybe he'll win the lottery because he'll drive me insane the entire time. Yep. Top row, yeah. Yeah, that was an interesting little situation. Also, I was looking a lot of basketball stuff. We need to get sticking her. Yeah, you're right. They're definitely winning the lottery.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Also, there was only one hat on the entire wall. There was a little, very distracting behind him for me, personally. There's just so many awesome shoes. So many, but them going the wrong way and then only one hat on the entire wall was weird. There was one spot that didn't have anything on it. There was only five shoes pointing out. Yeah, it was... Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I think somebody did that. to him i hope so i think he didn't know that until right now but he probably saw it while he's in there because i think he's pretty attention to detail i would hope so yeah that's his business i believe at least 50% of it it is actually his business attention to detail that's why that zammoth comes rolling out on that ice how scale on that day i'm telling it was like 10 people i saw it in the open i mean mammoth are big yeah like zamboni sizes i think unless they're making stretch bones those bonys are bigger than you next time we talk about you can you can shovel couple we need to I would know, yeah, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We need to get mammoth bigger than the bison outside of their facility. Everybody take a look. Foxy said look at his camera guy. Oh, down, he's in front of the Zameth. Go back. Hold on. Oh, no, go back a little bit. What guy could have died? Foxy said, you can't be rolling in front of a Zammoth, sir. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Is he okay? Can we get a little bit of an update on the guy that rolled in front of the Zammoth on the ground? This is a scary situation. One more. Oh, no! That's the same. It's a classic tripped over the blue line, seen it a thousand times. Guys got cement in his boots. I just looked it up, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He passed. Yeah, he got trampled by the mammoth. Yeah, the Zamest. All right. That's not true. That's not true. Come on. You can't do that either.
Starting point is 00:34:24 That did not happen. We think he's okay. That's a scary situation. That is scary. Ladies of gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is at one point. gonna be on our show every single week. And I was pumped up about it. Because we'd seen him on TV, carry on.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We'd seen him play, carry on. We see him on socials. He is active, not scared at all of anything. Nope. He'll go right in. Remember, he's super duper racist at one point. That's where everybody was saying about it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:00 That was a lie. He was the most racist guy on earth is what people were saying. I hated Yolkich. Yeah, hated Yokic. Now, this guy doesn't deserve a vote. because he's saying publicly how he's deciding who his votes are. This dude is not scared of shit. And I think that's why we love him so much.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Ladies and gentlemen, NBA champ for the Celtics, 16-year NBA vet. Now, ESPN pundit and live from Las Vegas, the home of WrestleMania this weekend. And maybe we'll see him in there. He's looking good. Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, Perk.
Starting point is 00:35:33 What up, Park. Hey, there they go. I miss out, man. I miss out. Hey, look, Pat. There's one thing I am scared of, though. I'm scared of these big, slow people walking through here. I tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:35:44 You see Randy Orton? Randy Orton walked through there. Have you seen him? He's the one. Wait till you see him. You'll feel that. You'll feel that. Danhausen, too, the guy with the paint on the face.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Stay away from him. Yenzni, need to stop fucking with him. You need to stay away from that. Seriously. That is not something you want to kind of dance with, I think, at this exact point. Now, on that note, perk, can you feel the energy of WrestleMania around town? or have you only got in late night last night? So I got in late last night.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And when I was walking through the airport, I'm like, oh, damn. This is like the Super Bowl. This is Super Bowl type energy. This is my first time, like being in the atmosphere of WrestleMania, and I'm feeling it. I'm like, oh, this is it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 This is what it is. Like the energy, it's popping in Vegas. Yeah, a lot of like-minded individuals over there. And I'll tell you, for some people, in times of my past WrestleMania Week is like one of the most positive awesome times on earth. You just kind of like suspend
Starting point is 00:36:44 all belief of it, just go and enjoy the hell out of it and everybody is on the same page there. Now it's a little bit different though. Now I see all those buffoons walking around and they have no idea that I'm the hero coming in alongside Randy Orton. So there's going to be a little heat between me
Starting point is 00:37:00 and every citizen in that city that is going to WrestleMania. I'd like to say, to hell with you all. you scumbags. Now, on that note, WrestleMania is awesome. I'm happy you're getting a chance to experience it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I can't wait to see you out there. Let's do a little bit of NBA chatter here and you pissing everybody off. So you came out and said, La Mello Ball could certainly earn an all NBA team vote from me if he does what he does tonight with the plane. Do you think that is you being transparent
Starting point is 00:37:28 with your vote? And why do you think some people got so upset with that? Do you think it's because they say, well, if I had a vote, I wouldn't. do it just on one night outcome. I do it on the whole year.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And how is kind of your thoughts on all of the reaction? Well, first of all, you know how I live, Pat. I'm facts over feelings, okay? I'm facts over feelings. The point that's hadn't been relevant since the month of Neverwhere. All I'm saying is he has the numbers. He has the damn numbers. If he gets his team into the postseason, they are the biggest surprise in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:38:04 You telling me that don't deserve? a third team all NBA nod, you damn right to do. I agree, Perk. Hey, I agree, Perk. And I like the fact that you're stirring it up a bit. And they've mattered since Nebula. Is that what you said, way back in
Starting point is 00:38:21 February? But what I'm saying, no, what I'm saying, Pat, is this. Think about it. Like, that's weighted out. Like, all NBA performances, one thing we're going to look at is the individual numbers and the team's success, right? And so what I'm looking at,
Starting point is 00:38:36 I'm like, if he gets his squad into the postseason, why not? I didn't say I was putting him on the first team or the second team. I said he's going to get my nod for third team all-N-B-A. Who cares? Yeah, I like it. And also, I enjoyed watching his team. Now, the BAM out of Bayou trip, I mean, it's been hit a thousand times now. We're already on Friday.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I assume everybody's saying it can't happen. The NBA finds him. Obviously, it sucks for the heat that they lose their best player in the second quarter, especially in a season in which he scored 83 points in the game. You'd like to see him maybe get a little. playoff, payoff. But nonetheless, that Hornets team, I love them. And I'm hearing that if they win, they got the Pistons, Pistons hate them. Is this Hornets team maybe the next group of menaces that maybe we can fall in love with nationally? And how do you think we got to this point with them?
Starting point is 00:39:20 And it's not fake as real. See, if you take the Pacers, they're a mixture of the Pacers and the Celtics. Charles Lee don't get enough credit for what he's done with this team. If you look at them, then number two in the NBA and three-point field goal attempts, and that number one in the league in May threes, right? So that's all your Boston Celtics, Joe Missoula type system. And then all of a sudden, you look at the pace that they play with and the way that Lamello ball dominates the ball and make others around him better, you're looking at a similar version of Tyrese Halliburton, right?
Starting point is 00:39:55 Like the playmaking mixture with the amount of threes, and if you need an isolation player to go on a low block, you had your Miles Bridges, who you could call your Pascal Siaka. Charles Lee put this together and put a formula together with the personnel, with Conknitple being at it. By the way, who's going to get my vote for a rookie of the year? I bet you the same people won't call me races about that. Call me a racist about that one.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. I do love that whenever you thought about who you're going to vote for, Cooper Flagger, Conniple, you're like, well, they're going to have to really search here on this particular one. But on that note, I like that you're going with Khan because of the threes. Cooper Flagg obviously won absolutely harm, but the team was shite. So you said you like players and teams kind of coming together for your vote because obviously team sported this entire thing.
Starting point is 00:40:50 You talk about Charlotte being built like the Pacers in the East. The Pacers in the East have had a problem with the team. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, and they are kind of built like the Celtics because they shoot a lot of threes, but they don't play a lick of defense, which the Boston Celtics do. Perk, what do you think about the Celtics? It's been kind of a crazy year. Obviously, expectations were low.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Then they come in, still end up winning 50-plus games. Tatum comes back. Still looks fantastic. I saw you didn't vote for Missoula for Coach of the Year, but also, you know, that's another thing that people are just going to get pissed about, no matter what myself included, you son of a bit. But with that being said, what do you think about the Celtics in this playoffs? think they're the favorites in the East, even though they're the two-seed as they go into the Sixers
Starting point is 00:41:33 with the fans who are chatting, we want Boston? I have the Celtics coming out of the East. They should be the favorites. I mean, think about it. They have the best duo in the Eastern Conference in Tatum and Jalen Brown. They have the most championship experience out of everybody in the Eastern Conference. When you look at their core guys and Wood Aiden Ben, when you look at Sam Hauser, Derek White, Peyton Pritchard, a loss. side Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. And then they play both ends of the other floor. And the most important thing is that Jason Tatum has come back and accepted his role for
Starting point is 00:42:09 this year as the Robin to J.B. as the Batman. Like, they don't need Jason Tatum to go out there an average 25 or 30. And how I know he's bought in is because he's doing the other things that's adding up in the box scores. He's had 10 plus games of having a double-double. He's been a monster on the glass. He's been dropping dives. There's a few games when you look up, he has seven or eight assists.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So he's playing his role to the team because the whole speculation was, is JT going to be able to fit or is he going to get in the way? No, they have real structure, and they are the favorites, in my opinion, to come out of the Eastern Conference. Hey, real structure. That's good coach. Great. That's what I would say.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You know, without Tatum for a long time. I see what you did, though, Pat. How come no Joe Missoula? Yeah, but listen, Joe Missoula is a hell of a coach. I'm not knocking, listen, he should be in the conversation. And I'm not knocking anybody that voted for Joe Missoula for coach in the year. It's so many coaches that are deserving. I just went with Ms. Johnson, right, to have a young San Antonio team,
Starting point is 00:43:21 buy-in, play a gender-free basket. ball 60 win season in the Tuck Western Conference, he got my nod. But it's your preference. You know what I mean? It's just some people like to drink him. Some people like to drink sarat. Some people like to drink tequila. At the end of
Starting point is 00:43:38 the day, they all go get you drunk. I ain't mad to fight. Yeah, I agree. Hey, I agree completely. That's not a bad comparison, actually. And because you have the vote, it is your descriptor. What would you go with there? Would you go with the hen? Would you go with the
Starting point is 00:43:54 vodka, would you go with tequila? What would your go-to be, Kendrick? Because we know he was your choice down in San Antonio over Missoula. What would be your choice at the bar? Well, if I was at a boy in San Antonio, you down right, I'm drinking nothing but tequila. So I've got to say tequila. Okay, let's say you're where you are there, Vegas. Yeah, in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. What you say, Pat? Yeah, Vegas. Yeah, I'm tequila in Vegas, too. Oh. Before I get on the train and lead tonight, yeah. Okay, so let's say your steakhouse somewhere, have it, are you eating steak? Is that a thing you're doing right now?
Starting point is 00:44:30 You look good, by the way. We don't know what diet or what you're doing, but you look good. So I am, I'm eating all protein, vegetables, and fruit. I'm staying away from the carbs. And yes, I do eat steak. But if I'm at a steakhouse, I'm going to give me a glass of red wine. You know what I mean? I'm going to give a few glasses.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You got to get a bit. You got to accidentally when you go to certain places, you know what I mean? Yeah. If I do get something, I'm going to give me. get something on the rocks with the big cute. You know what I mean? I mean, I'm not. Big cute.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Yeah, the big one sitting in the glass. You look so, you look like you're somebody. Mark gets it. You know, with the, you order an old fashion. People think like you're more sophisticated. No doubt. Jack and Diet's so much better. But an old fashion with some really good bourbon that has a history that I heard in
Starting point is 00:45:15 its entirety. Remember that Foxy? Oh, yeah. It's very good. We were at a super yupp event, yuppie, yuppiest event of all time where they had these old-fashioned with a little block square in there. I mean, it was
Starting point is 00:45:27 delightful. Did one of these. Oh, yeah? People were doing one of these things, Perk. It just make you feel important. You know what I'm saying? Just make you feel big time. You had a big cube in the middle.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Something about it. Yeah, it does. Especially when it rattles a little bit. Yeah. You know, everybody's got those little fish. I got the fucking big one here. You know what I'm saying? Sonic.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It's got the little crumbled ice. That's right. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun. That's really good. Good for whatever. Got the little shredded ice in the refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Perfect. Got the little cubes of ice. That's fantastic. Look at the block motherfucker. This is the time. It's got like the restaurant's logo on there somewhere or something like that. Thought ahead. Way ahead.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Because you're getting the rubber square thing. It's going to fill it up with a lot of water. Does anyone do the shredded ice? In the, in the refrigerator? Yeah. I'm not a shredder ice. I don't know. I've never met anyone who actually used.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I want really cold water in 10 seconds. You know, that's like the... That's it. Give me the cubes. That's like the Mitch Headberg joke about a guy came up to him and asked him if you want a frozen banana. And he said, no, but I want a regular banana in like five minutes. And that's what I just thought about the shredded stuff. Let's move back to basketball. Perk, I like that you do a little red wine, do a little tequila from the Don San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Are you a whiskey? Yeah, I guess you said you used a block if you had to. Let's go to the West Coast, shall we? Obviously, the Western Conference has a lot of storylines. Go ahead, Dee Blank. Yeah, big perk. You got the soap that's coming out. the east you get to that west side obviously the okay c thunder defending champs you got spurs
Starting point is 00:46:57 wimby those expectations of the winning championship now and going forward and then a different nuggets you can never count out joker don't think the lakers or the rockets have enough but um who you got coming out of the west going into the playoffs oh so look i it's hard because y'all know my attachment to the oklahoma city thunder but again i got to keep it real i'm going with the san an San Antonio Spurs. I mean, listen, what Wimby has done is not a game plan that a coach could draw up to stop this man offensive. And what we witnessed throughout the course of this season from Wemby is broke. At the start of the season, you know, he was in this Jamal Crawford bag a little bit too much, shooting up a lot of threes, bringing a ball up the floor, about the highlights
Starting point is 00:47:45 more so than about dominate. And as the season went on, he found that balance. And he actually embraced being a pickman. And he became the most dominant player in the league, in my opinion, because he was dominating in the paint. He was like, well, why do I got to continue to bring up the rock when I could just run dead into a screen and roll, roll to the basket and just wait on the lob and to finish at the rim? And when you think about what people are saying, well, they lack experience.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Well, the Aaron Fox went to toe toad with Steph Curry about two, three years ago in the seven game series when he was in Sacramento. No. Stefan Castle has been a fucking winner his entire life, even at Yukon. It's one of the best two-way players in the game. And I just think how they position themselves, they have the most home, they have a lot, they have a lot of home games on their home floor up into the Western Conference. So they have home court advantage up until the conference finals where they possibly could most likely meet up with Oklahoma City Thunder.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And you remember when Wendy said, we dominated them all. season long. So, yeah. I got a quick follow for Wemby, like him playing a little less than 30 minutes a game and then going into the playoffs where you expect these superstars to be on the court dominate, especially down the stretch and throughout the entirety of the game. Is there any concern for you for him stepping up and kind of have to carry that low on the biggest stage with a high pressure moment?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Well, I think he wanted to be honest. And you've got to give a lot of credit to Ms. Johnson and the San Antonio Spurs for keeping his minutes under 30 and he's still having this type of production in MVP caliber season. And so now you go into the postseason. Number one, he's healthy. Right? And number two, he's
Starting point is 00:49:29 mean as hell. That motherfucker is mean. And so, right, he won all the smoke, man. He do. He really want all the smoke. So we talk about like being on a big stage. Like, Wimby has playing on big stages. Wimby was just in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:49:45 you know, Karen, France on his back, right? Getting put out by Team USA. So he's not afraid of the moment. He had shown us that plenty of time, whether there was Christmas Day game, a Christmas Day game where he walked into Madison Square, Gordon a year ago and gave him that work, whether it was the All-Star game
Starting point is 00:50:05 where he set the tone and made guys compete at a high level and made the, you know, the American players up their game. He's ready for this moment. Okay. He's ready for the moment. He told me a little bit more about him being an asshole. So I know he went with the monks there for a while. And I know he plays chess with random people.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I know he's out and about. He also hung out with KG, right? Is that real? I assume you would know more about that meeting than I would. Did that shape him? Or is that too like-minded individuals? Like, how did that kind of come together? I think that's a brilliant idea for a young guy to go meet with him of all people.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And don't y'all just love it, though? Don't y'all love it when up-and-coming young stars and superstars? and superstars embrace the all-time greats. Like we saw Wemby with Jamal Crawford. We saw wimby with KG. And the first thing I saw, the first thing I said when I saw that he went like worked out with those guys, I told my sons at home,
Starting point is 00:51:00 I said, see, the workout was the first part of the second part was the hour and a half to two hour conversation once you just sitting on the side after you to kick your shoes off and they bopping and then having conversation. That's when you, soak up the real knowledge on how to be a great. And look, the stuff that's not shown that we don't see across social media, I'm pretty sure he's getting advice from Tim Duncan as well.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So he's open to it. He's so refreshing. He's what the game has been missing. The league. Adam Silver loves this. I love this. The way that he set the tone, the way that he embraces, I want to participate in the dark contest.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I'm like, hell yeah, Wendy. I want to win the MVP. I should win the MVP. I'm like, you damn right. That's what we want to hear. He gave a three-point presentation on why he should win the MVP, and all roads led back to defense. 50% of the game, right?
Starting point is 00:51:58 Are we talking about that at all? I guess he's the one, huh, on the defensive side that everybody is scared of, Big Park? Yeah, he's getting my vote for defensive player to year, and it's not just the three blocks. You hear so, like, they have a, They have a track record. Like, teams don't even drive the basketball on the San Antonio Spurs.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like, they don't know where he's at. Like, they keep people out. It's always lurking. Just always. Just, we just haven't seen nothing like this before. Like, we throw the word generational talent around that generational talent. We throw that out there a lot. But this is the real true definition of one.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Well, I'm pumped. And we're a part of it. Hey, Wembe, thank you. Merci Bocud. Amen. Merci Bocou. Let's talk about some other generational conversations. Go ahead, Ty.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, Perk, sounds like it won't really matter because they're probably not going to go to the NBA finals. But you also pissed off a lot of people when you said that if LeBron is able to beat the rockets in the first round of the playoffs, say the goat conversation's over. Oh, yeah. You forgot. You said that. Perk, you've been in the middle of so much.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And anytime LeBron gets brought up or the goat conversation gets brought up, you're going to piss people off. But regardless of that, how do you see that series going between the Lakers and the Rockets? I think it's going, I think it's going seven games. I'm leaning more towards the Houston Rockets. But make no mistake about it, LeBron James is coming into this, and he's about that action. He wants that smoke. Like, he's ready to lead this team even without Luke and Austin Reeves and try to pull the upset.
Starting point is 00:53:37 But I'm just, like, let's keep it real, y'all. At 41 years old, 23rd year in the NBA, we're talking about a guy that's going against a team that's loaded with talent. Kevin Durant, top 20, top 15, greatest player of all time. You have those young and upcoming stars over there in Shangon and Armand Thompson.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And if LeBron could carry this Laker team and beat them in this seven games, yeah, it matters to me. It matters to me. And I don't want to hear a damn thing about the goal conversation. because no other player was doing this carrying the team or playing at this level at the age of 41. All right, Park, will you join us for the rest of the playoffs or no?
Starting point is 00:54:18 Hey, man, my phone always on. That's the crazy part. Don't put it on me. Every time, you know, when y'all dial me, when y'all tell me to come on, I'm available. You know what I mean? Y'all are the ones that kick me to the curse. Oh, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Whoa, no. That is not the good. We are thankful you're back. We are thankful you're back. We'll talk to you soon, man. Enjoy Vegas out there. I appreciate it. Hey, congrats to the boy, too, right?
Starting point is 00:54:46 We're hooping class of, what, 2030? Yeah, 2030. But, you know, I'm trying to keep them home. You know what I'm saying? Pat, you got work to do. You ain't made, you ain't did nothing yet. Yeah, I like that. And on that note, Kingston, you're doing great, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Good luck. That's Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, Burke. I'll gas him up a little bit, I guess. I have to. That's good that I can do that. Kids with like my daughter, boy on the way later in life, I'm going to have to be the one, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah. Hey, come on, this ain't nothing. And then somebody else will be like, we'll have to be like, hey, you're fucking killing. You're doing it right now. You are doing it. That is the difference, I think, between, like, professional athlete parents. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:22 You know, because, like, long road. Okay. This is going to be a long road. So there's little beginning achievements. I'm fascinated because I'm watching McKenzie, like, kick a ball for the first time. And I'm, like, so pumped up for her. Like, yes. and I'm like, well, if I'm over celebrating just her getting the ball,
Starting point is 00:55:40 is that going to stunt her from wanting to do other stuff? So every time I just get jacked up for her, and I'm like, I do wonder how I'm going to handle her. Because I've seen the parenting before where if she gets in a basketball and she's saying I'm swatting, she's scoring zero points until you can score a point. Got to earn it. Exactly. And it'll feel a thousand times better when you actually do as that kid, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Well, I'd be able to do that to my, I do wonder. I think I'm going to have to. I think for the good of society, I think I'm going to have a good. Mackenzie, maybe the son, yeah. I think you'll be able to do it for sure. Yeah, little boy is going to have a little problem. Yeah, exactly. A little boy is going to have a little problem.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, I can't wait for that. That's fun stuff, man, watching Swagoos kid. Yeah. Go through this entire thing. Like the boozers. Like, it's cool watching Cam Boozer, you know, witness that. Eighth grade, ninth grade. Oh, Rhondo.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Rondo's boy. Oh, Rhonda, yeah. We're watching him like 13 or whatever the case is. It's been fun to watch. Now, I feel old. I mean, the Mannings. Even watching them. Arch coming through.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah. Yeah, and then. Yeah, Peyton's boy, Marshall. Yeah. He's the Prince of Proliss. He was eight years old last time I saw him, and now he's, I mean. I don't want to give away too much. I don't want to give away too much info and act like I know.
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Starting point is 00:57:48 Is it a missing person? Is it a suicide? At this point, nobody knows. Old friendships, buried cash, and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life. I'm Jiu Chang from 2020 and ABC. see audio. Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts. Are the absolute best. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. Thank you for allowing us to do this. The fact that you watch, we don't understand, but we do appreciate this weekend. WrestleMania. It's a big one. Huge. This is a once in a century, maybe once in a multi-century event, where a man will be attempting to save an entire industry, an industry that is new. needed for society. For my baby girl, boy on the way, for the gentleman here's children
Starting point is 00:58:48 and for future children, the business needs to be around because it's good for society. The business, the direction in which it's headed, can't happen. The man that I am standing behind on this graphic is the man who is going to save the business and become 15-time world champion on Saturday night. And when that got, just look at the graphic. Just look at the graphic. Okay, obviously, I do look cool, I do look cool, Berk. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I do look pretty cool up there. I appreciate the fact that, you know, the sunglasses are on because, you know, trying not to distract, you know, I'm laser focused right now. And also, did these wrestling marks deserve to see the color of my eyes? No. No. Never.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But Randy puts off such a bright light that would burn your eyeballs. Boom, the star is shining so bright. Whenever you're around Randy or that's what it's supposed to look like over there. 65-275. Has he ever left for WWE? No. Didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Is he a part of a wrestling royal family? Yes. Do they ever talk about his family even though he's third generation and he's currently a 14-time world champion? Only behind Sina, 17. Flair, 16. Now you've got Randy Orton, third-generation superstar, professional wrestler. Bye. Going for 15.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Is that the greatest of all time? he looks like that? Uh, yeah. And when he's at the top, everybody looks and be like, oh, that's what we make sense. That is what it's supposed to look like. Cody,
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Starting point is 01:00:56 gonna want to watch that one it's gonna be a spectacular weekend of saving the business and enjoying the hell out of what professional wrestling can be it starts tonight's smackdown that's right I cannot wait for that. This hour we have a huge surprise happening. That does involve WrestleMania. Sure. That's the only tease we're given. It's going to be awesome.
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Starting point is 01:01:34 Doesn't it? Absolutely. You know, because the NBA playoffs, playing games, tonight, two teams, decide their fate on whether or not they get into the dance or not. Will the Charlotte Hornets be able to beat Paulo Bantaro, who has been in the absolute fire on the internet down there in Orlando Magic fanhood?
Starting point is 01:01:51 And then Steph Curry, Draymond Green playing meaningful basketball tonight, 10 p.m. Eastern, right after Smackdown. And then you got the Phoenix Suns, Devon Booker, and prime time on prime, the play-in championship tonight. I'm actually excited for what the NBA is doing. Actually. I'm actually very excited about what the NHL is doing. The field has been set for the NHL playoffs.
Starting point is 01:02:12 If you watch the NHL, you know what the playoffs are. If you don't watch the NHL, you can never understand what the NHL playoffs are until you watch it. We would recommend this year is a good time to get in there. You got goats across the bar and you've got some things happening that are a little bit different than years past. It feels very fresh coming off the Olympics, both the women and men kind of captivated the world with hockey, especially when we beat Canada's ass in both of the gold medal games. but the sport itself in the playoffs, beautiful. What you saw in the morning when you're watching the U.S. men's team beat Canada,
Starting point is 01:02:44 just a couple days after the women beat Canada. What you saw then, high flying, high physicality, the talent outrageous, goalie standing on their head. That's what you're about to witness for the next couple months here. Cannot wait to start that this weekend as well. And it's not just, obviously, NBA and NHL playoffs. Baseball is absolutely crushing it. Yep, crushing.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Joining us now live from Manatic in Ohio. He's a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rottie Cup winner, A.J. Hawker, beautiful time to be a sports fan, brother. Yeah, absolutely beautiful time. What a tease right there that you said there will be a surprise sometime this hour. I mean, I'm on pins and needles, as they say. So what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Like, you're just kind of up and like you're... I get anxious. I'm anxious. I'm awaiting. I'm like Christmas morning. Like, I want to go downstairs and open my presents. So is it like there's pins and needles on a seat? You've been forced to sit in there, so you're kind of like up off of it.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah. Yeah. On the floor, you know, on your tip of toes. You're kind of up. Can't be on it because it would hurt. Yeah. So you're kind of up a little bit on the tip of the pins and needles. Exactly. So you're kind of like, this is kind of easier. And where do you find yourself then we do that?
Starting point is 01:03:48 The edge of your seat. That's right. Okay, so that's the edge of your seat. So that's what you're saying you're feeling right now? Exactly, yes. You, way to demonstrate exactly how I feel. Well, I just wanted to know how you felt because, you know, we're kind of a part of this whole thing. So I would like to know how people are feeling.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Of course. In the moment, because I'll tell you, what's, It's about to happen. I don't think he's ever happened before. I don't think it's ever happened before. And I am pretty excited. Speaking of being pretty excited, an American sport icon is back. Did he disappear from society? Not necessarily. Did he move to an abandoned world where we didn't hear from? Not really. But over the last couple of years, he's been in the conversation? No. Is he now? Yeah. Is he raking? Yeah. Yeah. Is he doing the baseball? In the biggest way, he's done his career at this stage. Wait, do we have a chapter that's about to begin and maybe the best big fly bananas from the big Jersey boy named Mike Trout? How you doing, brother? Doing good. How are you guys doing? Dude, not as good as you. Thank you for joining us. You've got to feel great right now. I know we've been in contact over the last couple years, obviously, as injuries and other things have kind of taken place. The beginning of this season, has it felt special for you?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Is there a reason you think that you're back to doing exactly what you've done for a long time in our world? Like, how do you kind of view this season versus maybe a couple years? Definitely health-wise is a big thing. You know, anytime you bang up your lower half, your knees, it's tough to get back to peak. But, you know, coming in the spring this year, I tried to just tell myself, you know what, you know, the first, you know, know, 15 years has gone by so quick. And, you know, I'm trying to enjoy it. Try to slow everything down now.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And it kind of put it in perspective. Like, hey, like, just go out there and, you know, do your thing, have fun. Don't worry about any of this. Just take care of your body, come in and play your game. And it all started when Zook called me in the all season. It was like, look, I got the job. I'm the manager. Where do you want to play?
Starting point is 01:05:58 And he was like, well, I want to go back to center. And he was like, well, you're the center fielder. And I think that from that day on, it was like, all right, well, I'm going to do my best, work my hardest to get back into that Mike Trout form. And it's been so fun, you know, the first, you know, three, four weeks of the season, just the guys. Obviously, you know, what I was doing the last, you know, a couple days in New York was unbelievable. And it was fun just to go back and forth with Judgey and just both teams, you know. We lost a couple close ones, which we should have. won. But it was fun baseball and it was good for the game. I don't know how many combined
Starting point is 01:06:39 eight or nine combined home runs between you and Judge. Five home runs in a four game series for you. It felt like the ball was maybe a little bit bigger in this particular game, but not just this series. Also the entire season. And we obviously have followed the amoral, a mortal trailer thing because of Matthew Stafford. Stafford had a back issue, which is obviously for an older athlete, especially a quarterback one where there's a lot of torque, a terrible injury. I mean, that could be a very bad thing.
Starting point is 01:07:08 You don't know when it's going to leave. You don't know when it's going to pop up. You don't know how long it's going to stay. And there were some deadlines that were missed in training camp. And all of a sudden, this trailer shows up at Los Angeles Rams training camp. It's a little streamline type thing. And they're like, this is immortal. Matt Stafford wins the MVP.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Okay. So there was, and I don't think you missed a single throw. I have heard that you potentially in this as well. Do you think this is a massive piece of why your body feels the way? And after you're told that you're going to be center fielder, you're going to play center field, you've got to get back into shape and everything like that, into the best shape of your life. Do you, is there anything else we need to know that can maybe make me a healthier person?
Starting point is 01:07:43 I'm not doing. AJ used to drink his urine. Yep. AJ used to drink his urine. There's people that bathe in it, I think. I've heard you baseball people do the callous urine. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:54 You're doing this amor. Can you tell me a little bit about getting it? into the best shape after having injuries or being, you know, in an unlucky string of injuries with Amorto and anything else, Trow? Yeah, no, I think, you know, my playing weight was around like 238, 240 when I first came up. Well, not when I first came up, but like, you know, the last few years. And I told myself, you know, if, you know, take some stress off my legs, I'm just to lose a little bit of little weight.
Starting point is 01:08:19 And, you know, I got down to like 230, 2.30 and it kind of felt too light. So I'm fluctuate between like 233, 235 and it's been it's been good. The immortal is, you know, people ask me all the time, like, what is it? And, you know, is it helping you? You know, I do it every day when I'm at, when we're at home. We got one at the stadium. And it's something, you know, it's hard to explain unless you're actually in it. There's, you know, 10 different settings of like recovery, energized,
Starting point is 01:08:54 release, a bunch of modalities, red light, magnet wave, pausing. It's, it's incredible. You know, and it's a good, it's a good, I do it for about 30 minutes a day where it's like a good reset. You're not thinking about anything. You're, you're off your phone. It's like a good, like a reset. And it's good for your body. And some days, I do it every day before the game. And then if I have a long one, I need a little recovery after post game, I'll get a little recovery post game but um yeah it's it's it's definitely definitely been helping me and uh you know it's just taking care of my body you know i think um you know when when you come up early you know as a young young player you're like you know you play a game and you're like oh my body feels great but
Starting point is 01:09:43 you know once you hit 30 i mean you guys know it's like 30 and it's like it's like you wake up and like man why is this muscle sore today so uh just coming in um getting with a training staff, the strength guy, and just keep it on the same, staying on a strict program every single day and sticking to it. You know, no days off. So it's been a great, you know, a few weeks to start and, you know, I feel great. Fifteen years in is crazy that you're still going and obviously you're feeling the way that you're feeling. What do they do back in a day? Who was that guy I played until he's 49 in the NFL? George Plando. He had to, what that's just wasted? Smoked a lot of cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. I was they just drunk the whole time? Honestly, I don't know. I genuinely know. Legit, what did they do back in the? I have no idea how they survived it. And with so many, I guess, yeah, just nicotine just rolling through. I don't know what it used to be. It's crazy because it's like the schedule.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Like right now, we're on 13, we're 13 straight, and we played three in Sensi, played four in New York. We got in last night, L.A.X around midnight. And now we played a Padres. night. It's, uh, it's, it's, it's, uh, like people, I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, way, it's, uh, new york, L.A., that's a short flight, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially being on, especially being on East Coast time for, you know, a week and a half, so it's, uh, yeah, hang on. Hey, deal with it. Hey, they did it back in the day. That's the NBA conversation's happening as well. I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:11:22 they used to it. Last question for me for the Amortle here. Because it sounds like it's like a dispensary as well. You want to feel fresh. You want to reset. Do you want to be happy? Do you want to laugh? You want to be hungry. Do you want to be smart? I like that all that's happening. You're going in there for 30 minutes at a time and everything like is everybody getting in there now? Is this just like becoming common thing? Yeah. So yes. We have a like a QR code with a scheduling and you go in there, scan it. you know, and you can pick your times. Yeah, but it's been filled up. Everybody's been using it.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And it's pretty popular in Angels Clubhouse right now. Yeah, it makes you see a baseball as a beach ball. So I think you keep your ass in there. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Mike, I'm just curious. Does the game get easier, the longer you go? Like, we come from the football world. Now I say, like, the game slows down as you get older.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Does that happen in baseball where you've seen all of the pitchers? You've had thousands and thousands of reps. I don't know. Does it get easier as you get older? I mean when you're physically okay to do it. You know, that's an interesting question because when I first came up, you know, guys were, you know, you would see average basketball around like, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:31 80, 99, 91, and then seems like everybody I'm facing right now is going 100 with 94 amount of sliders and 90 minor changeups and splities and just, you know, limbs flying everywhere at you. I think the game and the players are getting, so much more advanced. It definitely gets harder. You know, just you got more technology, you got more people, and you got more eyes and ears on guys, especially at a younger age, to get to way more advanced to what it was, you know, a few years ago when I came up.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So it's definitely a challenge each and every day. But the, as a hitting standpoint, you know, guys are just, I mean, like Francis, we're playing the Padres tonight and you got Mason Miller thrown 104 as a closer, you know, so it's... Hey, where's he from? What's that? Where's Mason Miller from, Trout? No idea. Pittsburgh, you know that.
Starting point is 01:13:32 You know that. His numbers right now are crazy. It's eight. Oh, sure. So tell me about him a little bit. Let's go into the mind, obviously, here. And when do you play them? Do you play them now?
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yeah, we're in a three-game series. I don't want to give you my whole scouting report in this guy, but I don't think you can't be sitting. off speed, I'll tell you that. Because if he throws that fastball, you're not going to even see it. Okay, so let's talk about the fastball. We won't just talk about directly Mason, even though he throws a heat. I mean, 104, he's up there on a very regular basis.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Let's just talk about, you talked about how more guys are throwing 100 now. So back in the day, in my position, returners. There was like one returner around the league, maybe two returners. They got a good returner. They got a good return. Devin Hester, obviously, most notable. He took advantage of it. they took advantage of how athletic he was, how incredibly he was.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Then once people started seeing it as a weapon, more people started getting it. Okay, more people started having a great returner. Every team started having like a great returner. Like, hey, they got a 4-2 guy back there who could potentially break this entire game wide open. I feel like it's the evolution of the game. Then you talk about how far people are able to throw football and everything like that. How fast guys are able to run now, 40s are crazy? In your sport, how many people used to throw 100 in a season that you would see?
Starting point is 01:14:43 And then, like, now does everybody throw 100? Because it feels like everybody throws 100. And if everybody throws 100, does anybody throw 100? Yeah, I think that the thing with pitching has changed over the years where like when I first came up, it was guys actually like pitching. I mean, don't get me wrong. There's guys still doing that today. But the younger guys coming up, it's more like just they're going off stuff,
Starting point is 01:15:09 seeing how hard they can throw it and seeing how much break they can get on their all speed, their slider. and I think that's why, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I think that's why you're seeing a bunch of injuries too. Guys are just going out there full speed, full blow, blowing it out every single night. You know, when I first came up, for instance, like facing Justin Verlander, like he'll pitch, and he still does it today. You know, he'll pitch it 93, 94, you know, and, you know, try to paint up. And then if he needs rear back with 97, 98, you know, he will,
Starting point is 01:15:43 opposed to just sit in 97, 98 for the whole game. You know, Max Freed yesterday, you know, first inning, you know, 93, 94. I got to my third at bat. First pitch was 98, and I'm like, just out of nowhere. So it's like, you know, that's why, I mean, I think that's why the numbers are, you see these, you know, top, top guys. They can just tone it back and they're not just full on go every time. But the amount of 100-mile-hour fastballs, it's like, it's ridiculous. from when I first came up.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Okay, yeah, it feels that way when I watch. I see triple digits on the screen a lot more than I used to see it. And obviously, that's a big part of the game now is watching the scorebook. Okay, is that thing? First of all, I'm looking right at the box. Yeah. Okay, is this umpire an asshole or not? Okay, that's what I'm asking first, which on that note,
Starting point is 01:16:32 Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Trott. It feels like the MLB in general, or MLB, if you will, is in a great spot with the ABS and the pitch clock. As someone who's, you know, kind of starting to watch every single game. more entertaining, especially when those challenges come through the wire. How do you feel kind of about the state of the game? You've been in it since 2011, so this is kind of another iteration of MLB for you. Do you feel like it's in a great spot and it's going in the right direction? And where do you think
Starting point is 01:17:01 it goes from here? Do you think the Ups have a chance to even last behind the play? What do you think? Yeah, I think it's a good balance right now with the ABS. I love the ABS. You know, it's very interesting, like strategy-wise. You've got to be smart with it because I've seen, you know, a few games this year where we're at a challenge is where, you know, we get late-inning games where, you know, there's been pitches where we should have challenged, but we couldn't. But I'm all four big moments. You know, I hate bringing it up, but you saw on the WBC with Corey back there. You know, Corey's an unbelievable umpire, but that was one of the ones where like that changes the game. If you have ABS, it's a
Starting point is 01:17:43 ball. So you don't know what happens after that thing. But I'm just saying like all the big moments where, you know, late in the game that that can impact the outcome of the game, it's good for baseball to be able to challenge and get the call right. Yeah, I think we're saying the same thing in football as well. I also think it has to be such a good time for these catchers to finally first time in their lives, right? I assume a lot of these catchers, even in like Little League, they probably thought something was a strike when a ball was called. Junior high, I don't of what you guys do, get drafted, do the high school stuff, college, if anybody, minor. I assume their entire life catching. There has been a lot of,
Starting point is 01:18:20 uh, no doubt. Can't say anything, though. You can't show them up. Can't do that. And then now for the first time in their life, they're allowed to just take that hand and just go to one of these. Liberating. And it's a full on, just like I've been saying for 20, fuck. You're wrong. That is incredible. That it has been incredible theater in my eyes. But also, I'm so, the fulfillment for the catchers, just like we've been saying this the whole time. They have to feel electrifying.
Starting point is 01:18:45 All right. Last question for you here, Trout, we appreciate the hell out of you. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Mike, for the longest time, big time, you know, diehard baseball fans, they just want to see you in the playoffs. And it's been so long. I mean, you were the undisputed best player in the majors for like a seven, eight year span. And we didn't get to see you when it mattered most. But early this year, you guys have looked unbelievable. Joe Adele looks great at the plate and in the outfield.
Starting point is 01:19:08 So Lair is doing what he's doing. and you guys got a bunch of young talent. What do you think of the team this year? And do you think you guys are kind of in position to make a nice little run when not a lot of people are necessarily expecting that? Yeah, I mean, just the last four games to be able to get knocked down, lose a tough one, and then come back and, you know, win some ballgames. It would have been fun via bats.
Starting point is 01:19:35 You know, it's just the thing with us, it's team at bats. You know, a lot of everybody's pulling from the same, same rope. We come to the ballpark. We're wanting to come to the ballpark. We're wanting to come and just be with each other. And we got a great group. We got great veterans. We got great young guys.
Starting point is 01:19:52 And everybody's buying in. It's been a great team vibe as in, you know, no one's, you know, trying to do everything for themselves. You know, we're pulling from the same rope. And, you know, it was the last four games was fun for me. Just to be obviously, you know, hitting, hitting wise, but just to be able to watch, just team at bats. You know, we're having 10, 11, 12 pitch at batch, just drain the pitchers out. And, you know, I've got a lot of texts. And I talked to a lot of guys that we played, you know, this year from opposing teams.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Like, hey, man, you guys are good. And your lineups deep. And, you know, it's not just one guy. You know, it's one through nine. And, you know, our pitching's been unbelievable as well. Soriano at the top. Grazie, I think. Yeah, I believe he's the Dominican.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Oh. Muchos, Grasie. Yeah, that's 100% on me. I didn't know which World Baseball Classic team. I didn't know which one we were pulling for. We're pulling for them all. We love the World Baseball Classic. Know that you love golf, so tweaking, obviously,
Starting point is 01:20:59 a part of everything. Go ahead, Debo. Yeah, we're deep in the baseball now. So in the Algo, a lot of these baseball things pop up, and we've been playing with football in here, too. So I'm trying to get my swing. Right. My coach here tells me, hey, squash the bug, but I'm watching you,
Starting point is 01:21:12 and I see you kind of step your back foot back, you kind of drag it forward. Has that kind of always been your swing, or is that a recent tweak of yours? Yeah, I started, I always do it in the cage as a drill, and I started it last year with J-Wash, or hitting coach last year, just try to modify the drill during the game. And, you know, I went on a tear at the end of last year. And I did it at the end of the season, and I took it into the off season. And coming in the spring, I felt like I was in a good spot where I was doing the move.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I was getting the feeling I wanted to get without doing the step back. And then I went through a little skid where I kept, you know, not be able to get back in my backside to be able to go forward. And so I went back to it. And, you know, ever since I went back to it, it's been unbelievable. It's working. It's been fun. No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, I think it's pretty good little swing for you.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I think you found it, brother. How's the golf swing? You tweaking that at all? Swings good. Playing every road off day. I don't play at home because I got two boys and my wife to hang out with. So it's been great. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And do you do the Kawas shallow? What is your technique? What is your golf swing? My golf swing? Try to hit it in the hole. The shot. He's a real. player. Oh yeah. It's got a real player. Real player out there, they say. And I can't wait to go
Starting point is 01:22:43 on the course with you someday. You're the man. Keep it going and stay healthy. No, I appreciate it. I get you down to trial national, man. I didn't know if we're allowed to say the name. He has a golf course called Trout National. It's beautiful. I've seen the pictures. Actually, open Wednesday, first time. Yeah, open for, oh, grand opening Wednesday. You've been working your ass off for that thing for a long time. Congratulations. I'm getting all these texts. All my boys are down there. You know, face-timing me. while I'm out here, so I'm glad they're enjoying it. Yeah, no doubt. You're the man, ladies of gentlemen, Mike Trout.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Okay, so Trout National is, he bought like a golf course in his home area in Jersey. Yeah, that's sweet. And he built a, like a, like Augustine National. Him and Tiger, right? I think Tiger, like, designed it together. Yeah, Trout National is going to be the name of it. Like, he's trying to make it. the best course possible is basically what he did.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And when I got intro to him, they were like, hey, listen, he might be going to golf course. If you like golf, you should definitely ask him about that. And I was like, hey, what's up with the course? He's like, we'd love to have you out there. I'm like, sweet. I'll bring like the boys. Let's make sure we, yeah, we'll definitely have you out there. No, they love you.
Starting point is 01:23:55 The trouts are in the group around them, big fans at a program. We're very thankful. Happy, he's healthy and happy, it appears. It feels like trout was one of the first guys that you saw one of those videos of like, hey, this is top golf. watched this ball go two miles. I don't know if Trout was the first one to do it, but in my memory, at least, it felt like Mike Trout was that guy.
Starting point is 01:24:13 We have some huge breaking news out of the NFL. Will Anderson, defensive end, outside linebacker, monster for the Houston Texans, a part of the Houston Sack Station. And Houston, you don't have a problem with locking down. A guy you invested a high draft picket, trade it up to go make the thing happen, and now he's getting a...
Starting point is 01:24:35 $150 million. $134 million. $134 million guaranteed. Congrats to him, that's over 40. 14 divided by three is what, 44.5 million, 44.3 million. 44.3 million a year guaranteed 50 million possibly in incentives a year for the next three years. Casario obviously made big play, loved him coming out of Bama.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Now he signs him to a massive. deal that resets the entire defensive end quarterback sacking market. Congratulations to Will Anderson. I was hoping he'd be out of the AFC South. I love what they just did. Nope, it'll be there for a long, long time. One of the pillars for their organization on the defensive side of the ball, and you mentioned a Houston Sack Station or Sack Exchange, whatever it's called.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Danil Hunter locked him up for another year. We've got a fully guaranteed deal. So you got two happy past Russia. So yeah, that's bad news for the rest of the AFC South. He certainly is. Good thing we got Daniel Jones back. That's right. He can move.
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Starting point is 01:26:32 on Yamaha-Tiretmotor.C.A. Or, at your concessioner, We have to clue you in on something here, okay? So there is a thing called WWE World out in Las Vegas. It is a place where every person that heads to mania goes and congregates basically all day. There's different setups. There's different experiences.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Our show has broadcasted live from there in years past. This year, yeah, right. Not getting in a convention center with these things. That kind of habitat, this place. This is all the people on the internet that hate my guts going into one place with the same mindset. Wanted to be a part of it. Wanted to do something that never happened. before so we put up a sign that said huge surprise right here foxie go ahead and show it
Starting point is 01:27:16 please huge surprise right here this thing has been up since yesterday okay it had been on a clock that said huge surprise 10 30 a.m. local okay now we obviously have a countdown for the next two minutes until the huge surprise is going to debut we know what the huge surprises okay the huge surprise is going to be uh you guessed it me popping on that screen oh now we didn't know what the audience is and be like because there's other events taking place on the other side. It is filled in pretty nice. These people think,
Starting point is 01:27:50 okay, Stonecold Steve Olson, maybe. What? Anything maybe, hell, Rob Van Damme might come out. Anybody could possibly show up at this thing. The final boss, the rock. Holy hell, this could be, maybe this is Nick Kahn and Ari Emanuel,
Starting point is 01:28:05 giving away tickets from TKO. Maybe Triple H is announcing something brand new. They have no idea. what this is going to be. Huge surprise certainly indicates positive response in this entire thing. And I don't know if they're showing us right now. That's not great news if our TV
Starting point is 01:28:21 is on somewhere in there. Oh, maybe there's a chance. Tough service. They might just be waving at some other Mark. So we're about a minute off, take it off TV, Foxy. Let's not do that. We're about a minute out from going ahead and dropping into these people's world and letting them know, surprise. The old daddy has come in the face. We're 40 seconds away from this thing dropping
Starting point is 01:28:47 in. But how do you think this goes with these marks who once again think this could be something awesome, should be something awesome? It's WWE world. We're in Las Vegas celebrating one of the most monumental WrestleMania's in absolute history. And now what's going to pop up, the person that all these people hate. I mean,
Starting point is 01:29:05 I've been at quite a war with these people. I'm the hero in the end. I think they'll look back and thank me for it. But they do not like me in the moment. They got their phones out now. I mean, this is going to be a moment, Dee. Here we go. Huge surprise. Okay, in the back, let's go ahead and link up with them on what the clock is on their side, because there is a little bit of a delay. I'll be looking right here at this camera here.
Starting point is 01:29:24 And let's turn it over in three, two, and... Surprise, nerds! The surprise that you thought was maybe going to be your favorite wrestler of all time. Maybe, maybe somebody from AEW was going to sign with WW a WWE, and you marks were going to get zipper burn. all over yourself. Instead, well, well, Pat McAfee's smarter
Starting point is 01:30:00 than all of you dumb marks yet again. That I am on my way to the city that you creatures are certainly taken over. I can smell all of your low life, disgusting bodies all the way here in Indiana. And when I get to that town, and I'm talking to you, little kid on your dad's shoulders too. When I get to that town,
Starting point is 01:30:28 you should all be thanking me and Randy, Orton as soon as I touch the turf in the desert. Do you have it? Well, I got another surprise for you. What me and Randy are about to do to your entire WrestleMania weekend is something that you can't prepare
Starting point is 01:30:51 for, you can't control, and you fat slobs sitting right up close on the gate, you're going to be crying your ass off as you leave WrestleMania knowing that what was what you all let happen is over. And Randy Orton is about to run
Starting point is 01:31:07 this industry back to what it's supposed to be out of your dumbass hands. Have a great WrestleMania weekend. My show will be broadcasting live on this LED board for the next 30. Get some greatness in your life before the biggest weekend you nerds will ever experience. See it Smackdown tonight, Marks. Okay, let's take that off on the feet. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Okay, so back to what we're talking about here. They'll be able to take pictures, obviously, with us. Maybe, let's do a full wide shot so they could take a photo with us that they're there. Probably take you, go cut over to them or are they able to, yeah, okay, okay, okay. Back to our regular schedule program. Let's not worry about the nerds in Vegas. No, no. Please turn that down out there actually so they can't hear us.
Starting point is 01:32:40 They don't deserve to hear my words. my words, they've already heard enough. That's awesome. I told you it was going to be a lot. Bravo. Bravo. Incredible. Bravo. Well done. One of the best things that we've done that you have ever done. Congratulations to the back, going off the tech, shout out. We had to
Starting point is 01:32:58 sense, because obviously, WWE people are like, yeah, you could just do that. Yeah. You know, so we actually had to send. That was great. We had to send, I'm not going to say the name, because he's big in the wrestling community. He works with us on a regular basis. We had to send him and his team in there to kind of,
Starting point is 01:33:12 and it all worked to perfection. One rogue. Oh my God. The crowd. You see a little kid they were so excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:19 You see that they were so excited. Little kids, man. Oh, maybe there's a new main event. Maybe there's a shot. There is a main event. It's on Saturday night. It's Randy Orton. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:33:29 I'm talking. I'm walking in enemy territory over there. I've heard the booze have been pretty loud. Yeah. No doubt about it. I've heard of boo. Andrew Schultz, you know, they were marketing street fighter.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Kelly Rhodes is our varying character, which he does. Yeah. Which, once again, We do appreciate that. And Andrew Schultz, I guess, said my name. There was a rude response. And I don't think I fully understand because I'm right here, right?
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. No, you don't start doubting that. You are. No, I'm not dotting me at all. Good. Why do they all feel insane? I'm saving the business that they love alongside the greatest of all time. And Randy Orrin, what's that whole thing about you think?
Starting point is 01:34:09 You know what? These people, they don't know. You got to kind of just shove what they need down their throat, and it's unfortunate that that's the way it needs to be, but that is the way it needs to be. So you should feel very convicted in what you're doing. Like when your dog doesn't take their medicine, you're just going to shove it down their throat
Starting point is 01:34:24 and they gag until they realize it's good for them. Well, and also just like I agree with that, like you kind of have to force them to, they won't even understand until like maybe a couple months down the roadrunner. Like, oh my God, this is so much better. Well, they still don't understand because they're so stupid, but they'll get, they'll be happier. Okay, I like that.
Starting point is 01:34:42 I mean, you know, just like the bone. Yeah, exactly. He's a perfect example. We can kind of get along with that. Once they see it, I think, in a couple months, they can't help themselves but go like, you know what, guy? Oh, no, he was right. Maybe, I mean, you're assuming they got brains.
Starting point is 01:34:56 You assume they got brains. That's not exactly. Well, and that's why they're so upset is because you're saving the business that they love, you know, and although it's terrible, you know, like Cody Rhodes said, we're a bunch of yes, ma'am, but we told you, hey, don't do this. This business sucks. Why would you go and try and do something for them? They don't need the rub.
Starting point is 01:35:16 But then, again, that's the business that these marks have kind of created, supported, and loved. They don't want actual WWE superstars the way we do with Rand Yorton, the whole reason you're with Ran Yoran because he is a true superstar. They want kind of the little shorter bitches that they can relate to a little more. I mean, that's just the reality. They see themselves in that. Exactly. They were trying to let them, they need you dream bigger. Yeah, like, hey.
Starting point is 01:35:41 They need you dream bigger. That's right. You're a mark. You're not supposed to be able to see yourself in the cream of the crop. Those are supposed to be larger than life, a la Randy Orton, a la Roman Rains, which is why you have to save the business to make it more like that, not what it's become. Yeah, Stone Cold Steve Austin, superhero. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:35:59 For the white trash, we hate authority group. Bingo. The rock superhero for, man, this is what a human could be. Yes. with the microphone and in the ring and the way ridiculously handsome. At that point, we did smell with the Oosos. I don't love what happened over there between Cam and Jay. I think we're all kind of on the same page,
Starting point is 01:36:21 and I do appreciate Mace immediately like, I was in there, though. I would watch the tape, watch the tape. Him coming back with the ice pack on the hat, certainly liked that he was taking care of himself, and that's way to battle through. Smart. Jay Uso kind of lost his cool there. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Didn't he? It's mainly a season, though. I knew that. Yeah, he's on edge. What do you expect? Yeah. Allegedly all the marks are still listening to us. Can we go back into the stupid convention?
Starting point is 01:36:46 Hey, shut up, bums. Keep it done. We're trying to do a show over here. I hate that guy. Hey, you got, hey, those little fingers are yours, pal. Hey, who's the little elf out there? Who's got the little tiny little baby thumbs that bend backwards and look like they're supposed to be a part of Shrex Never Everland down there?
Starting point is 01:37:10 All right, enough of them, please. Too much. Too much of them. You see those little nubby little finger? Yeah, disgusting. Some of them had to be told which one was their middle finger, which I heard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Hey, what's he doing? I said! I hate that guy! Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, from an Attican, Ohio, AJ Hawk. Hey, Hogg. What's their problem over there? That wasn't a very welcoming response
Starting point is 01:37:38 from the WWE world. Yeah, especially the, my favorite part. is when you, sorry, I don't know if I'm chopping or not, it's choppy on this side, when you were pointing out individual people, you fat slob in the front, you kid on your shoulders. When you start signaling them out, that's what I think really got him going. The guy last week, towards the end, as me and Randy were walking out with the title.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Is that your voice? Yeah, he said, I hate you, palmy after me. Yeah. I was actually startled. I almost, and I was trying to figure out which one it was because there's a lot of people yelling. Yeah. So, and I obviously had no idea that the camera was going to be shooting me because of what we just did, Cody.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I thought they'd be showing the champion and said they're showing me and Randy walk out, which is maybe once again saving business. Yeah, they might get it. As we're kind of getting to this, we should probably reconnect with you, AJ, but yeah, I didn't know if that was on. That was a genuine, that was a real moment. Yeah. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:38:28 Is that you're at? Wow, that would suck. Yeah. That was what I was thinking, but then I got to remember, hey, no empathy for this. No, no, no. Nope. No empathy for these things. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Got the wrestling fans certainly up in arms. Can't wait for it all to be settled this weekend. And when it is settled, all you marks just fall right in line. Okay? Fall right in line. Right behind Randy. Ork. Business is going to be a good place.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I can't wait for that. I'm pretty excited about it all. Now, Fridays have become an annual tradition. And we just saw a group of oh-nones. Yeah, a lot of them. Hey, show that clip. Show them. Can we show them real quick?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Every person out there, Oh, no. Guy in the front here with the Triple H skull shirt on the left, he looks in the mirror every morning and goes, Oh no! Guy with the big hat trying to get that on, wearing a button down, just skipping work for whatever reason. Looks like a Zito, a little bit of a rounder fella.
Starting point is 01:39:32 He looks at the scale whenever he steps down there and says, oh no! Little kid down there is looking up to his dad. His dad has put on a bad wrestling fandom for him, allowed him to get to this pace. He looks up at his dad and he says, dead you're such a bomb i didn't know that all i can really think is oh all right enough with them please let's get to some you saw a fake roman rain yeah it was a little fake one please go is there if
Starting point is 01:40:01 there's running rains we would like to over to the right thing is right to the right a little bit and to the war to the right hey there's little nubby fingers right pal okay hey bud you need take it easy your cheeks are touching your touching your neck pal you droopy bum okay uh all right let's get away from them. Let's get away from them, please. Let's get away from them. I'm going to war with that. That's right. And Randy is actually going to war with Cody. That's right. But it's my job, you know, as motivator, friend of Randy.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Everybody's saying, am I manager? It's like, no, I'm a friend, motivator. Confident. Yeah. Bingo, I'm just telling him what he needs. Hey, this is what we need to. You're the right guy for the job. Let's go ahead and do that. He agrees. We're kind of in this thing together. I think you'll hear that tonight if you were to go through there. But these people, they don't respect that.
Starting point is 01:40:47 No, no, no. No, they don't get it. Not at all. In one ear, out the other. Once again, WrestleMania will be live on ESPN's platforms this weekend, as we are right now. Download ESPN. On the limit. Super duper plus.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Yep. Get it figured out now because if you don't, you're going to be pissed when this whole thing starts. First hour, tomorrow, ESPN 2. Sunday, first hour, ESPN. Tomorrow, first hour, you got the triple-six man. you got Logan, Austin, and I Show Speed taking on the Uso's and Paul, they just mentioned it.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Come on, we're big fans of this. I know. L.A. Night. Yeah. Logan Paul was in that one. Yeah. And that's kind of why we forgot because he had the greatest hit in the history of hits
Starting point is 01:41:40 during first day today. Yeah. I forgot what he taught me because it's 4 a.m. right now. I was told about this last night. You're not Peter. That's a better question. Hey, Logan, I think you should be pretty proud of yourself, Logan, on how you handled yourself as, you know, good for business.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Yeah, good for business. Good for business. He's a good for business guy. Joining us live, speaking of business, come watch business get handled tomorrow night, wrestling. Tonight Smackdown, too. I got to go to the same city as all those things. Oh.
Starting point is 01:42:13 You can kind of. If you tip your nose, Towards Vegas. I don't know where you're at. We're in Indianapolis, so we'd be looking west. Okay, we'd be taking our nose west. If you just give one good... You can smell them. When those things are together like that,
Starting point is 01:42:31 it just creates like a smog, fog of shite. Mark Wildfire. Yes, exactly. It is a Mark Wildfire smog and smell and poop. And it's just floating through. So if you give one... That's for us many weekend, though. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:42:45 These things all come together, and all of their pits, all of their sweats, all of their poops, everything just kind of goes together, and then it somehow gets out of the convention center, because the convention center is not on us. No.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Convention center had been through this last year, back to back years in Vegas, convention center said, we're going to let that smell out, and then that shit oozes everywhere. Yeah, covers the entire strip. Like a dust storm. You'll see them, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Even almost people are like, ugh. What is wrong with these people? That's gross. And whenever we smell them, we think to ourselves, Oh no! It's Friday. It's time to get through the oh noes from the sports week that was.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Let's head to beautiful golf. Oh, Seattle. Oh, sorry. Seattle. Thank you for that. Seattle. Oh, no. Each row Suzuki getting celebrated as a mariner.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Oh, what happened to the bat? He cracked it. But he did get on base, I heard. Of course. Tracked a bat, got on base. Obviously, you think you have everything figured out. until it just gets ripped on because it's a bat. Beautiful looking statue.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Seemingly put together well. Crack the bat. Good thing, bad thing, tie. Or does it definitely scream? Oh, no. Yeah, not the greatest. Not the greatest thing when you're trying to honor a guy like Yerot. And a lot of people are maybe saying,
Starting point is 01:44:05 hey, this is why the Mariners are playing like shite right now. We're trying to honor one of the greatest players in the history of our franchise. And we can't even do the due diligence to make sure the bat isn't broken on the monument. Come on. If you actually look closely when you restart the video, Fox, you can actually see Ken Griffey Jr. say, oh, no, on the left side when he realized. He's a photographer.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Oh, no. Oh, no. Let's stay in baseball, shall we? Let's go to Pittsburgh, a 19-year-old sensation, playing for the buck goes. Connor Griffin has made incredible plays. He's going to do a Whirlibert 360 double play. Instead, nobody's out.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Nobody's out. They score. It's a disgusting. overthrow. Everybody said, why did you do the little circle button because you're 19? Let's not figure it out. He's just trying to figure out what he can and can't do. Okay? He's trying to figure out what speed, what's not the speed. He thought he
Starting point is 01:44:56 looked so sweet. Boom. Boom. Got tried to spear him in the calf, too. Obviously, holds on to the ball because he's just figuring it out. Certainly made everybody in the stadium go, Connor, Griffin, 19 year old. Oh, no. He did make up for it, though, please.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Yeah, he did. He hit a triple in his next abat. But also, They reviewed this. The runner was out and it was clearly interference. So this was not an oh-no on Connor Griffin. This was oh-no on MLB replay in New York. Oh, I like that whenever we divert something. Anyways, people were saying, oh, no!
Starting point is 01:45:28 Let's go to golf, shall we? We saw this on Sunday. Obviously, the man had been playing well at Augusta. He got into a good final grouping. And then it all fell apart because of people not feeling great. Houtong Lee stuck in the woods. Obviously, they had to figure out a camera to shoot him over there. Did find the ball, though, which is pretty impressive.
Starting point is 01:45:44 At this stage, could have probably just mailed it in and picked it up and just walked the rest of the course. He would have scored the same thing. And then let's also talk about him putting it. Oh, he's got to have a good touch there. The Gus of Greens are running fast. It's been dry all week. The Masters, obviously. The Masters of Golf, it's going to be a difficult place.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Houtong Lee rolls it by the green and that's into the water. Oh, no. Yeah, we're talking about ass round of golf. And every time he stepped over to ball, all the things that were going on in between his ears were just, Oh no! That's a tough day, Mr. Lee. We think you will find yourself in a better place in the future. Not as tough as Sergio Garcia, who former Master's champ, hits a drive.
Starting point is 01:46:27 No, bang. He's not done, no, folks. Broke's driver needs to go ahead and tack the ground a little bit. Sergio Garcia definitely in contention to win this thing. These shots matter. Yeah, you're right. These shots certainly matter enough to take it, and boom, off a cooler. Let's go ahead and finish the job.
Starting point is 01:46:43 This guy's roughing up Augusta National Property? Who's he think he is? They're about to call him Sergio. Oh, no! Garcia. Now let's go to Chris Gauter up from this week's tournament. This man has won four PGA events in the past, including this year. He's a great golfer, young golfer.
Starting point is 01:47:03 He's the next generation, and he whiffed. Chris. That guy whipped on a golf ball. Yes. The practice swing? That's what I do. That's what I do in these situations. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Chris Goderup's good golf. Can't do the practice when game it in this level. No, yeah, as soon as you address it and you go ahead and taking a hack out of the head, that's certainly giving a stroke. Chris Goddrup said, let me walk that. My media move would be just
Starting point is 01:47:25 let me pick it up, roll it on the other shot here, where I'm taking it. Chris Goddorup, whiffing an attorney? Oh, no! It's got a basketball, shall we? There's always a few of these. How about a playing game? Paulo Banktero.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I got you, cause? Bang, in the head. Lady, right in the head. We're talking. Don peace. Handling business this lady. Sitting courtside, play in game, on the wood.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Certainly somebody of importance, and what we find out, she's an absolute dog. But all you could hear is Paulo Bancher. Oh, no. Absolute beast right there in Philly. Proud of that, John, obviously.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Let's go to the Heat Hornets game, overtime. Final minute, what's going to happen? Who's going to win the game? Time out? Or? They sell it. Is this a commercial?
Starting point is 01:48:24 Kind of a bop, I guess. It's sad. Bam, bam. Okay, they'll get us back at least. I like that they're just giving us a little bit of a bot. Cleaning the court or something. This is good. Technical difficulty is a weird way to word that.
Starting point is 01:48:41 That means they're sending something, right? Okay, let's get back to the game. Oh, I missed 25 seconds of action. time to play and what the fuck I just met these two? What are we even doing? Literally all I can think to myself is Amazon technical difficulties and overtime, more like, oh no, time. Stay in basketball, shall we?
Starting point is 01:49:04 Zach Ryan, okay, this guy sells out stadiums. We need to show respect to what he has been able to do with a guitar and his voice. Most ever at the big house in Ann Arbor. Sells out stadiums. Okay, if you're able to sell out stadiums, okay, if you're able to sell out stadiums, which we get I'm not going back to the marks I'm not doing that
Starting point is 01:49:22 I'm not going back to the marks but if you can sell out stadiums I have respect for what you've been able to do now his song everybody knows is that we're having in all night revival yeah I see him do it on stage
Starting point is 01:49:38 Shane Gillis run his mouth a little bit holding a beer up there going he's a dickhead Dan Jones though Dan Jones singing it he's been doing it so we know Zach Brian
Starting point is 01:49:48 I know a lot about Zach Ryan or, you know, his life as well. And that comes with being a guy who sells out fucking stadium. I think that's part of it. Also, serve for the military. Appreciate his service, all that stuff. They need to keep him away from a basketball court. I like that he's doing sports for cardio.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I like that he's a sports fan. I like he's selling a state. Can't have that on tape. Can't have that on tape. Okay, we need to make sure that camera's not getting out of there. Not only was it to travel and other things. It was also just, Zach Ryan's working in the paint. Why they got him running a full court?
Starting point is 01:50:14 You know, like that ain't where he's supposed to be in the news. No. So when I was seeing this, I just thought to myself, why is this being filmed? Okay. Why is his teammates letting it happen? And also, shots of Zach Ryan kind of putting in maximum effort,
Starting point is 01:50:26 even though it turns out to be zero points, and that makes you inevitably go, oh, no! Zach Ryan, can't have that on tape. Can't be good at everything, I guess. I agree, but I like he's doing sports for cardio, getting in shape, for the state. Yeah, can we get an outlet, pass, please?
Starting point is 01:50:42 Someone's got to yell outlet. The guy's down below the hoop. He's got to pass that thing. No, his teammates wave him through. Go ahead. Lead the break. We know how this is how this goes. I would like to blame the teammates.
Starting point is 01:50:52 He feels like he doesn't pass very much. And he might be the best player because the shot itself went off the top of the backboard in game right to him. I like maximum effort out of a buddy who wasn't going to foul either. He kept paying his out. Because remember, we saw Gary Vee clip from a few years ago. He got stripped, ran back, anger, foul to guy.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Hard. Hard. Guy did not punch him immediately in face, which was a surprise to all of us. Here, no foul. Zach Ryan said, it's not about me, actually. You're saying he wouldn't pass the ball. He's underneath the hoop.
Starting point is 01:51:18 He says, let me get this out of my hands, actually. Let me go ahead and put on one of the boys. And all I ask of the boys is, you see that camera filming that fast break? We need to ask for that. We need to ask for that video. Break that phone. Is that cop with a full utility belt on it? Oh, you see a well weapon.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Yes. Yeah, it could box out by that guy. He's on Zach's team. Maybe he needs to start hitting a little bit. A lot of hats. That guy's wearing bones wearing jeans. Yeah, I like the way he's doing that. But anyways, the tape and the video making the internet just makes us go.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Oh, no! Let's get away from some sports now. Let's go to some other things. Still sport, but out of ball sport world. Let's head down to the Tampa Bay Rodeo. Okay, this ain't our first rodeo. We know the rodeo life. We actually respect the rodeo life.
Starting point is 01:52:00 This is Cowboy Sway. He's riding a bucking horse. A bucket horse, sorry, bare back. Does a forward roll. He's a showman. Hey, I didn't see what I did there. That's what Cowboys Sway says. Goes up in the crowd.
Starting point is 01:52:11 That's me. That's me that just did that to that horse. Tell me I'm great. Back flip. Boom. Stampy! Stampy! Stampy!
Starting point is 01:52:22 I mean, Cat Boy, Sway, on top of that horse. I mean, he's riding that thing. That's a movie. Then he does a forward role. Incredible. He probably does parkour as well, if I guess that's a classic land role situation. Go up on to the gates.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Yeah, this crowd needs to know. Woo. Cowboy sway. Backflip, by the way, I'm not done. Bang! Oh, man. Shit. Out.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Bang! Everybody in the crowd was like, you're the man, you're the man. Cowboy Sway is one of them ones, though. You know, he'll get right back up and get back on that thing. Yeah. It ain't about how bucked you get on the back of that bucking horse. It's about whether or not you get your bucking ass back up. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Cowboy Sway is going to get his ass back bucking up. Yeah, exactly. Last one doesn't really need to be talked about him much. There's a man that would never be able to ride a bucking horse. No, no. There's a man that is a person. Part of our group, part of our team, part of our culture. I hope.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Part of this program, who's a traitor. Yeah. Who committed an act of treason. Could be an accessory to multiple crimes. But the reason why he's not being accused of all those things is because he's too dumb. I don't know if that's a good thing for him or a bad thing for him. But I do know you go back to Tuesday after hours. It's bones day to sweep the floor.
Starting point is 01:53:53 He gets distracted by a banging at the door, goes out there for about a few seconds, comes back in, Cody Rhodes. He would go on to say, Cody told me that you told him it was good to swing by. You know what was real or unreal. You don't let Cody Rhodes in this exact time. Cody would then go on to destroy set
Starting point is 01:54:15 and steal Randy Orton's title. That's right. But I guess they say is his currently, but we clearly took it out of there. He would take his title, brutalized the desk, cause millions and dollars of damage. Yeah. Broke him. Babe Ruth signed back.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah. Disgusting. And walked out. And that's all because de boned, this man is more de boned. This man is more de boned. Oh, no. Than ever before. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:54:50 What's that for? What the heck? Is this for all the marks? Oh, shut up. He is the mark. Get them out of there. Get them out of there. You dip shit. We hope you'll enjoy
Starting point is 01:54:59 WrestleMania this weekend on ESPN's platforms, NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs. Tonight's Smackdown. We'll be back for an overreaction Monday. A lot is going to happen. Have the greatest weekend of all time. Be a friend, tell friends, I'm nice with my change of life. Goodbye. Got it all in there.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yep. All right, AJ, I got to go to that cesspool. I got to go to that cesspool over there. To all those things, as you've referred to them as? Yeah. And these things like the gossip. Yes, they do. These things.
Starting point is 01:55:29 How you say it, yeah. It works. Yeah, well, thanks, AJ. Yeah, thanks, AJ. It's going to save the business, I think, in what it is. You're just telling this guy, why don't you go ahead and do that? I'm just going to do that. That's right.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Okay, let's go live to a WW World. The cameras are found a fan. Nice. That's a good shirt. Hey, let me get a couple. Don't let any of them buy that. They don't deserve to wear that shirt. Take that shirt out of the store.
Starting point is 01:56:00 I'm heading there right now to get that fucking all the merch out of there. Smart. They don't deserve to be wearing that. I can tell Big Hat guy was a fan earlier because after you did him, he was like, I know, he was trying to be super nice wherever he was lifting the hat. Yeah. And I was like he's really the only one sticking out. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:56:17 That's the game you play. He did look exactly. I mean, he was Zito. Got a ricochet, yeah. The little nubby fingers was my favorite. Yeah. The kid. The Triple H guy because you doubled down on him. And he was really bummed when you popped on.
Starting point is 01:56:31 He was really bummed. So that was just, oh, man, chef's kiss. That was incredible. It's going to do, mania. Hell yeah. How's it going to go tonight? A little preview? Genuinely, I don't even know why I'm going to this fucking show.
Starting point is 01:56:48 You know what I mean? Walking the building. Everybody in the back, I hate them. They hate me. Everybody in the stands. I hate them. They hate me. So yeah, I guess I'll roll in there.
Starting point is 01:56:58 That sounds like a good time to me. That sounds like a good time to me. And that's the difference. You know, I'm okay with it. You know, I'm okay with much like Artemis II. You know, the moon was traveling. Artemis had to aim ahead. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Okay, to catch the moon. Okay, that's me. The moon was traveling too? Yes. Around the... You didn't know that Artemis is fucking aimed ahead of time? You got to lead your receiver, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Slings shot around. that thing. Got to use the telemature to get us back home. Yeah. Slingshot. Engage. We aimed way ahead of time. We sent that thing like it was a bird shot. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:33 You know, like we're a pool. And I think that's what, that's what me and Randy are kind of doing for the business right now. Yeah. And these bums, I would never want to compare them to the moon because that moon, under that moon, a lot has happened. Yeah. Okay, that moon is an impressive thing. You know, what's on the dope side? What's on the inside?
Starting point is 01:57:50 Well, actually the business is kind of like Artemis, and they're using you and Randy's the moon to slings. shot into better things. Oh, you think they're aiming for us. See, I was saying I'm projecting thermostat. They're the thermometer thing, which is what Artemis did, which is project ahead of time and they're kind of going to have to catch up. You know, there's a couple other businesses we've done that too. So this one just kind of have to, you know,
Starting point is 01:58:08 just kind of have to do it again. But saying there the moon is a fucking wild because they don't deserve the moon. No, brother. Because the moon's awesome. You guys are more like the sun. You light up the moon when the time comes and Artemis is probably kind of the marks. You know, trying to go around.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Easy. and be near them all, you know? Actually, 11's more like they're 13. You're going to compare astronauts that we have that went to the moon to these fucking slabs at WW. I'm not so sure. You're right there. You're right. There's a metaphor in there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Hey, behind the glass, great work this. Good work, boys. Craft design boys, other than bone. Right work this week. Good work boys. Zito, great work this week. Maybe he did. A couple studio upgrades.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Yeah. A couple studio upgrades. Somebody's wearing a fucking fake title. Let's get out of here. Let's get out here. Let's get out here. I've got to go see you. Be your friend. AJ, great work this week.
Starting point is 01:59:06 D-butt, hell yeah. You two, brother. Boys, great work. Hey, you too. You too. Road to WrestleMania is certainly heated up, hasn't? Very quickly.
Starting point is 01:59:13 It's kind of a short road, isn't it? Yeah. It's kind of short. Now, what would be a... Like a top thrill dragster. What's the... What's the... When you have the end of a cul-de-sac?
Starting point is 01:59:25 Yep. Will it be a short cul-de-sac? Because remember if Randy Dunwin, I'm gone forever. That's right. Or will this be your fucking pipeline? Right to the future of greatness. Maybe it's the highway. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:59:38 What's the one over in Germany where they don't have any? The Autobahn. It's the Autobahn to mania. Yeah. Okay. It was a short start. Only a couple weeks live. Although months on the phone, a couple weeks left.
Starting point is 01:59:50 We've certainly sixth. Shh. And there's road closed signs, and you're just. blowing through them 100 miles an iron. Each row close on, I see some fat mark. Boom. That's brain should not be trusted. Why is this thing giving an opinion?
Starting point is 02:00:05 Nobody asked for this thing to give an opinion. And if you give enough opinions, people still don't care about your opinions. That should be a message that your opinion isn't worth having. Slob. Open your door, knock them over. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Yeah. We're changing. That's right. We're saving. No restrict your plate on a vehicle. It's on ESPN, Super duper. us. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Let's have the greatest weekend of all time. Hell yeah. Let's have the most impactful weekend of all time. Hell yeah. Love that. Well, said. Remember, our kids will have a strong WWE
Starting point is 02:00:38 because at the top of the WWE will be Randy. Orton. Be a friend, tell you something nice that might change your life. We're in this thing together. Let's never forget that. Other than you, Marks.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah. You can forget that. We ain't together. It never will be. Thank God. I just had a so much gratitude flow over my body that I'll never be one of them.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Never, yeah. Ever, and never have to be around them except for like when I walk into a building and they're there. But I can easily just. Oh, you got something coming for them too. Oh! Look a lot of bums.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I can't wait to see you guys Monday. Team on me. Team on three. Let's have a weekend. Hell yeah. We'll see on Monday. Biggest overreaction Monday of all time. Team on three.
Starting point is 02:01:27 One, two, three. Team. Goodbye!

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