The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1545 - Overreaction Monday with Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole, Nelly Korda

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys recap everything that happened in the sports world this weekend, including the NBA & NHL playoffs wrapping up their first rounds, Golden Tempo winning the 152nd Kentucky Derby, the NFL’s The Pick Is In dropping on ESPN taking us inside NFL Draft rooms, and more. In the first hour, we are joined by NFL Senior Insider Adam Schefter, who recaps being Mic’d up for NFL Films during the Draft, gives us an update on AJ Brown’s future, his perspective on Brendan Sorsby & the supplemental draft, and more. Right after Schefter we are joined by ESPN’s Senior NBA Insider Shams Charania who takes us inside the Magic’s decision to fire Jamahl Mosley, Anthony Edwards plan to play through his knee injury, the status of Joel Embiid and more. After Shams, 3x NBA Champion & 1x NCAA Champion Danny Green joins the progrum and gives his respective on Anthony Edwards toughness, the 76ers chances of taking dahn the New York Knicks, Lebron’s Lakers odds against the defending champion Thunder, Jaylen Brown livestreaming right after being eliminated, and more. In the second hour we are joined by the founder & owner of the Savannah Bananas, Jesse Cole, who recaps the Bananas playing in front of 102,000 fans at Kyle Field, his philosophy in running the Bananas, and more. Also in the second hour, 18x LPGA Tour & 3x LPGA Major Champion, Nelly Korda joins the show to talk about her incredible start to her golf season, where she is mentally with her game, how her golf swing has changed over time, what made her fall in love with golf, her Green Bay Packers fanhood and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We will be back tomorrow LIVE from the ThunderDome. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome. On this overreaction Monday, May 4th, 2026, this sports program begins now. Sports! Are absolutely fantastic, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. The weekend was loaded with sports awesome, but I do have to take a moment to celebrate. It is my daughter's third birthday today. Happy birthday, McKenzie. Happy birthday.

I have no idea if she's watching this right now or will be forced to see it later in life. McKenzie has turned three. It's been 1,095 days, I do believe, of just absolute magic. As I learned what love is through the eyes of a little baby girl named McKenzie. Mackenzie, I love you. I can't wait for you to get into sports more. Remember, she had a run with soccer this year. It was a little hair miss, but she certainly showed up, kicked the balls, and she's the goat.

And obviously, baby on the way. Mama's kicking ass. So we appreciate you, McKenzie. Happy birthday, pretty girl. She's going to be, I think it's a 2040 World Cup. Oh, it is? Yeah, in 2039 Olympics, I do believe, if my math is right. She has a chance to potentially be the youngest for both of those.

That's 20, 35. We are still on track, you know, with how it's going. I'm seeing 16-year-olds playing over in Germany. I got a lot of stuff, but nonetheless, I cannot wait to watch her continue to grow. You're a badass, happy birthday. Now, may the fourth be with all the Star Wars nerds out there, too, which I have massive respect for. My family is Star Wars nerd.

as you hear toxic table, one of those. Let's just enjoy anything that is a celebration. We will certainly do that. Sports had a lot of it this weekend. There are some hearts broken. Uh-oh. There are some hearts broken. As the first round, both the NBA and the NHL's playoff series,

are now officially done, and we've moved on to the final eight for both of those. And just know, the city of Boston was representing in both of those sports, they now no longer have a team in any race. Speaking of race, Golden Tempo, congratulations, big time win. Well done. Sherry DeVoe, first ever woman trainer for a derby winner.

I think we're going to get a chance to catch up with her this week. Should be a blast. So many great things happen. Golden Tempo is way back here in the ass end of the horse. They never want to be on the ass side of a horse. You always want to be on the nose side of a horse. And Golden Tempo says, I don't like being back here. A mutter, a finisher, a closer, a cold weather giant.

Golden Tempo, 23 to 1 odds. Make it a run. Ha! Hi! Hi! Hi. We'll get to the final stretch, and they would turn into a two-horse race between Golden Tempo, the first ever horse that was trained by a woman in a Kentucky Derby to go on the wind.

Take it on Renegade, owned by Rapoli. Both jockeys brothers. The Ortiz brothers are battling against each other. We're coming down to Final Drash. Bang! Bang! Renegade, the favorite. Who's is Golden Tempo Kentucky Derby champion? What a race.

What an incredible photo here. by Gabby Sorrentino at G. Sorrentino TV. I believe she's social media, does a lot of digital stuff. Gets an incredible photo of the Ortiz brothers here finishing one, two. Sherry DeVoehl, I believe we'll be joining the program this week. Cannot wait to talk about it. It was nice watching it. Yeah.

More viewers than they've had in forever, I guess 19.5 million viewers or whatever the case was. Huge, huge ratings for the Kentucky Derby. Anytime sports get celebrated, we appreciate it. And that's what we're going to talk about today, all of them. We got Shafter joining us in about 10 minutes. He was a part of a series called The Pick is In. Yes. Brought to you by NFL Films.

Good. Good. I had no idea what's happening. That's on us. Is it on us? That's on us. There's a lot of other stuff going on and probably the worst possible time you could have ran that. But I agree.

We should have known. ESPN, 7 o'clock, Sunday. Everybody knows that's whenever you run something that's brand new from NFL films in Skydance. How did we not know about that? Those clips are awesome. How did we not know about that? There are four game sevens yesterday. Were we in it?

I don't know. You tell me. I didn't watch. I have no. Was Shifty mic up the whole time? Because we certainly had conversations with him in the back. He never did one of these at all. It's like, so who's doing?

Yeah, he wouldn't. Who's doing water on here? What's that? I wouldn't expect that for Jeffty. Nine-year NFL vet, Derries J. Butler. Can we get a common courtesy? I mean, who knows what we said? Hey, I'm the fed.

Hey, watch what you say. Just a couple of these. Just what I know who's Shifty. We didn't know until I started seeing the clips come out. I'm like, how long was chefty bugged i mean what do we what all that's not good i had a conversation with who that's the toxic table at boss of connor and toxic tone right there sounds like you're a little bit worried potentially about the uh happening to yours for me i just probably talk shit on somebody

that probably you know probably was in uh in i've never talking shit on anybody in NFL films they know that sky dance either but geez louise we need to know whenever people are miced up making great things the pick is in was fantastic That was really good. Schaefter was a big piece of it, obviously, because he's a mover and Shaker was on ESPN alongside NFL films. Feels like it might be their new hard knocks. You know, because this is something that we don't normally get to see finding new stuff as people are trading. Then we have, Sean Sharoni will be here, obviously, for the NBA.

Jesse Cole, who's Mr. Yellow Banana Suit. Yep. Formal name. Yeah. At Yellow Tugs, Jesse. There he is. Genius, this guy. Entrepreneur, extraordinaire.

Ringling Circus leader. Yes. I believe, what's that song? The Greatest Showman. The Great Showman. It feels like Jesse Cole was from that ilk. You know, he is a promoter by nature. Sport of baseball, obviously, was his first, you know, venture. We'll find out why and how. Now he's selling out football stadiums, 100,000 plus tickets. In standard. For Gimic Baseball. Still baseball. Gimic Baseball.

Putting on an incredible show. Now, what is the demo? Probably younger than us. But anytime something like this is happening in the sports world, you should celebrate the shit out of it. Whatever gets somebody into sports, whatever gets somebody into baseball, whatever gets somebody out of their house to go celebrate something in a community type setting, which this place, Texas A&M down there, wonderful community. Yeah. I mean, they are all in. Midnight before the midnight yell, I got a chance to be there.

They had 30,000 people packed into the stadium at midnight the night before. They go 100-some-thousand-doubt-up-thous-due game against the Texas tailgators, and I'll tell you what, he was a nail-biter down there, a couple fan-outs on a foul ball. Huge. All this shit. Unbelievable success story, both business and sports. wise and I believe he was sleeping on like a mat at wire mattress at one point in like a garage because he was so in debt as he believed in this thing now it's working out pretty well for him can't wait

to catch up with him and then nelly corda who l pga champ yeah we'll be joining us can't wait to talk to her she has 18 LPGA wins three major wins a gold medal winner she's 27 years old 10 years on the tour an absolute stud and she hey I went down to augustia i was invited a masters I I shouldn't have been there. Sure. It was nice to be here. Got a golf lesson. Guy told me,

I came ahead on a brick wall. Yeah. Right here like this. Can you have a brick wall? And then load it on the back foot. And then go ahead and release that thing. Perfect. She has the perfect swing.

She has the perfect swing. And we cannot wait to chitch out with her about how I can maybe get better at the golf. That would be great. But also mentally, how she's so damn locked in. Started as a professional as a 17-year-old. Feels like we've known of her for a while. Has placed, you know, a lot of people. pressure on her to be the next one.

And then whenever she's putting well, she's dominant. And she wins back-to-back tournaments here. Mexico yesterday. Last week was the Chevron championship, which was her third major. Seems to be on a little bit of a heat. I cannot wait to catch up with Nelly Korda. So it should be a fun day. Toxic tables at Boston Corner and at toxic tone.

Ty Schmidt, he's got good life going on right now. He'll be away for a few. We want tell Ty and his family. We love him. Congrats. Oh, yeah. Ty. Love you, Ty.

Now on that note, Tedden, you're sitting right next to a Boston fan that just has nothing really going for him. Nothing really going for him. He's wearing a Patriots hoodie, which I think is a good distraction. But if you walk outside, there's only going to be one thing that people are asking about with the New England Patriots. And that's not a ball. And that's not making it. Saw that on a graphic? Yeah.

I don't know what it was. Hoves. So, I mean, now you got the Celtics. And I'll tell you what, Sixers look. Very good. Damn good. basketball. But Joe Mazzulah, what's going on with this guy? What's going on? Can he win? This guy's favorite to win. Then he doesn't win. Is he not a winner? When I believe Joe Mazzul is one of the

best up-and-common coaches, one of the best coaches in the NBA, going to be around for a long time. They're going to talk about him being a hero. Then he started up stuff like, hey, he was favorite in this loss. He was favorite in this loss. They're supposed to win this one. They're supposed to win this one. They lose this one. This guy can't get the job done. It's like, well, they did win the championship. They did. Not enough, though. And I feel like that's how Boston fans feel. And the Boston Celtics fans like, no big deal. Let's go ahead and turn our attention. The Bruins just got their asses beat by a saber.

So tough week and tough couple weeks for New Englanders. Are you okay? And what are your thoughts on the state of the second round of these playoffs that no longer have any macehole representation? Yeah, I mean, I'm okay. Look, the Boston Celtics, I've seen them lose in the finals at home in recent memory. The Boston Bruins game seven, once again, at home, seeing them lose in the Stanley Cup finals.

So not the worst possible thing. Now, those things don't happen back to back. It was tough having Friday night. Sabers get killed. Roll right into Saturday. Celtics. Jason Tatum doesn't play all of a sudden. How the hell did that happen?

Luca Garza is in the starting lineup. What the hell is going on? And then they lose. So it wasn't great. It was very tough. Unfortunately, you know, it's back to the drawing board. You know, I honestly would rather lose right now, especially as the Celtics instead of going to the Knicks and getting blown out and same with the Sabres.

So the second round of the playoffs would be great. It started last night with the hockey. fantastic and the basketball should be good too. NBA has got some sweet stuff happening. Here's some HEMBO stats. With the Pistons and 76ers overcoming 3-1 deficits in the series, this marks the first time in NBA history. There were multiple 3-1 comebacks in a single playoff round.

Remember, the parody was also being talked about with the underdogs winning and the favorites winning. And the NBA is seemingly predictable throughout the season because there's a lot of teams trying to be ass. A lot of teams walking out there saying, let's be ass tonight. Hey, top down, all ass. sub them out the wrong times, sub them in at the wrong times.

We're trying to lose as much as we absolutely can. Now those teams are saying, we're trying to rebuild this team. The only way we can rebuild is if we're asked enough that we can potentially win the lottery and get the number one overall pick and then we get a superstar and maybe even in this upcoming draft class,

one, two, three, four, maybe all superstars. So we've got to get up there in a lottery so we've got to be asked now. Well, then there was teams trying to win. So then those teams are run into each other on a very regular basis because there's 82 games in an NBA season. And sometimes there be 25 points spreads.

Yep. Professional sport. Record. Middle of season. Record-breaking point spreads in these games, because this team's trying to be asked. This team's really good. So we were worried maybe about the NBA playoffs.

Is anybody tested or not? It seems like they've been delivering D-Butt. I love what's been going on. How about the Pistons going down bad? Yeah. And then coming all the way back, Cade Cunningham basically putting a team on his shoulders, had a lot of turnovers in the first three games

whenever they were losing to Orlando, still had 25 points, but he had a lot of turnovers. They just kind of shut the valve off they go ahead and win that thing. The Stones, I believe, is what they're called in Detroit. The Stones, it is. Foxy made that up. I don't know what he made it up with.

But there's some boots on the ground research or some Detroiters, and they never heard of Stone. That's not true. Foxy wouldn't lie to us. I'm now 39 years old. My daughter is now three years old. I had never heard Stones before either, before Foxy just dropped it like last week.

And then he made me feel comfortable and confident that if I drop this, they're going to think I'm white boy Rick. maybe I'm supposed to be talking like Detroit. So I was going to say the stones just kind of fit in up there because we've got a little beef with Detroit, a couple of people up there, certainly over the years. So I was trying to fit in.

Turns out it made me look like an asshole. Yeah, me too. Did you look like an asshole? I remember Tim, the toolman Taylor's saying it on him. Thank you, Tarley. It was like, hey, boys, you want to go to the Stones game? No, he's talking about the Rolling Stone. And Brad was like, I love the stones.

Brad needed to stay away from the Stones. AJ's family. That is a real deal. Need to stay away from me. and forgot we called them the stones because it's been 18 years since we won a playoff series until now because of kate cunningham j bickerstack and all the boys let's go congratulations okay so maybe we shouldn't have turned that into an immediately a negative conversation because the pistons have done something they haven't done a long time but i like where the NBA is currently

sitting lakers move on as well debut your thoughts on the NBA playoffs as they continue to cook we'll talk to danny green here in a bit yeah i love every year i love the NBA playoffs and maybe we thought coming into this season this first round It would have been terrible. But to have three game sevens in the first round was incredible. And then the storylines coming out of this one on both sides. Obviously injuries. Injuries are always a part of when you get to this part of the season with the Sixers.

If it beat is healthy and motivated and playing the way he played in that game seven, like I know for me, I've been kind of out on him sometimes. It's like, okay, he shows up when he wants to. Obviously he's hurt a lot, but you can't really control that. But the way he played, the way he gutted out through this injury and kind of set the tone, you clearly see no one can match up. winning once he gets in the paint. Obviously, you can shoot. I hate when he's shooting threes, but him. And then Maxie, Maxie taking over. And in playoffs, you always kind of need

that guard to take over and get some buckets down the stretch. He did that. He, you know, put the lid on that series, Vijay Edgecombe as well. Paul Georgeman, he's healthy. So 76 is for me and that East is the team that I really got my eyes on. And then on the West, you know, the storylines with LeBron. It's always going to start with LeBron. And then O'KC. Can they go back to back with the MVP, the special season that they're having? Is it Winby's year? Isn't Winby's time? and then the Knicks, we know, you know. Most of the countries wait for them to fail

and for it to all blow up. And we hear all the loud Nick fans say, oh, this year, next year, the coach to this to that. So I love the playoffs. I love where we're at right now. Yeah, we're with great eight teams playing. All of them can obviously go in a run. Oklahoma City doing it again would be very expected,

especially with how they've been playing. But why not Wemby taking over something in the West? He'd have to get past Ant Man and Timberwells. How is Amman? Remember your hyperstander? He's like, we'll have Shams join us here in about 15. minutes for a drive-by. Sure.

Yeah, we'll see. Just need a hot five. Is he driving an RV or? Not a deep dive. No, he's doing just a drive-by. Flintstone's car. Josh Hart of the Knicks actually spoke about Tyrese Maxie. Man, you just spoke highly of.

Tyrus Maxi, obviously, clearly the fastest human on any basketball court. Anytime he's on a basketball court. Josh Hart was asked about how he plans on defending him. He says he's going to ask him just kind of slow down. Smart might help. Can you chill, dude? Can we do a little bit of that? I used to do that to partner turners.

It did work for a couple guys. I think it's not a bad idea. maybe just plant the seed. I don't think you should say it publicly that you're going to try to do it. I think you should have done it naturally. So he's going to have to find another way to get that message.

But Maxi, unbelievable. How about Paul George? Yeah. Still doing it? Paul George having a little bit of research. Oh, his birthday. Joe, happy birthday. He's a May 2nd.

He's amazing second birthday as well. Shout to the Rock and David Beckham. Cool birthday. It's good birthday. Yeah, and I think the Queen, rest and peace. You know, I think she was also. Joelle M.B., though. He's got, hey.

He does like to wiggle. When he does a little turn, fade thing, When he's playing, it is unbelievable. That's why I was pumped he chose America played for for the Olympics. Because we knew we were going to need him at some point. What's that, Tone? Toxic Tone. You don't like that he chose to be

a part of the United States of America? I do like that, but like, I mean, he's played for other countries before, so I just didn't understand how that works. But, you know, that's a me problem. It's NIO, baby. It's transfer portal. I'm just not, I'm just not culture enough. Yeah, definitely.

Okay, let's move away from the NBA before we will revisit it shortly. The NHL playoffs, okay? We've told everybody that has ears and within earshot of these lips, the NHL playoffs are worthy of a watch, okay? These dudes are flying on blades that are this thin, broken everything happening in their body. You'll never hear about it.

Dangling going crazy. I mean, just so many storylines, legacies, legends, everything being created in real time in one, deathifying feat of a sport, which is hockey. It is just, just. outrageous what hockey is, especially in the playoffs whenever. The psychos, they have a daredevil mentality, all these hockey players. These psychos are just like on a do or die every single 40 seconds of their life,

which is how long a shift at last. They're just out there killing it. Rest and peace to all the teams that didn't survive first round. A lot of good teams in there. A lot of great teams in there. Not really. No, a lot of great teams in there. They're all banged up, too.

A lot of great teams. There was a lot of upsets. Sure. Four favorites. moved on, four dogs moved on as far as series pricing in the first round of the playoffs, so you never know what's going to happen to the NFL showing up in a big way.

Parity is what they call it. Let's talk about the first game that we've seen in the second round. Okay, let's talk about Avalanche Wild being wild on the ice. So many goals, 14 different goals scores, and if you don't like hockey, you have to like excitement. How about there being 15 goals?

Let's go to the Wild and Avalanche, okay, which became an immediate classic upon avalanche goal Sam Malinxie. Boo! Unbelievable from Malinsey. That's 1-0.

Colorado is considered the best team in hockey, potentially best team of all time. 2-0. Jack Drury. Drury. Let's go to continue in the first period. Hey, dangles cook. So sick.

Sassy. Off the wall to himself. Watch his replay. Passes it off the wall, off the pad, sorry, to himself. Let me go turn around, bounce it back. boom, Lackettin 3-0. This team's going to murder

the Minnesota Wild, right? Yep. This team's going to absolutely saw 3-0-0-0-1-1-1. Minnesota Wild, that was a cute story. Welcome to the show. Well, then the Minnesota Wilde said, well, you know, why don't we all relax just for a second? Marcus Johansson, 3-1 now.

Still in the first period. Let's go to Ryan Hartman. Grimy one underneath. It takes a huge shot. Three, two. Quinn Hughes, brother of Jackie Hughes, the Hughes Hockey Dynasty family cooks, sauces, Goatime Hartman, 3-2, Colorado Avalanche. As we continue here, Nick Blankenberg.

Oh, you know, saucy. That's a kind of hockey up. Senior law. Over two sticks, over the hill, through the tunnel, right the Blankenberg stick. Nasty. Four, two, Colorado. Six goals. Still in a second, 13 minutes left.

This is hockey all of a sudden. I scored a touchdown. Ladies and gentlemen, Tarasanko. Off a skate. Filthy. Just, hey, hi. Hi.

King. Hi. Oh. Named after Colorado Avalanche great Peter Forsberg. Love the Forsberg goal. Right there in Colorado. 4-3, Colorado. Let's keep it moving here.

Quinn Hughes. Ah. Get the goalie going back. Stops on a dime, cuts back. Lefty sensation. He's a defense. Boom. Chad, goal, just like you had a game winner

and a semifinal of the Olympics. 4-3. 4 now. Still in the second period. We got eight goals going. Marcus Folio. He stopped on a dime,

shorthanded goal, and takes out the net immediately afterwards. Short-handed goal. You know, We're shorthand in the power play. You normally see fast breaks. Marky says, I got you, and I'm going to take out your net, punk.

5.4. Still in the second. Colorado was up 3-0. Now they're behind by one. What happens next? Well, how about Devin Taze? High goal! 5-5.

10 goals. Still in the second period here. Still brewing. Kail McCar. First of two. This will look very familiar, maybe a little deja vu. Here in a few. Nazum Cadry.

Six-five. Still. Are we playing defense? Fourteen minutes left. No defense. No defense at all. Who cares? Seven-five.

Still in the third. 403 left. Queenieus, what a nasty backhand dump in there. Matt Zuccarello. Goal, seven, six. Now, it's 13. That's a touchdown. Two touchdowns.

One missed extra point. Third period. 257 left. McCarr once again from the same exact spot. Hey, hey, hey. Cam McCarr, one of the goats, they'll say, now what's the score? Oh, eight to six, 14 goals in the second round of the playoffs.

Let's send one in from behind our own blue line. Nathan McKinnon gets one on the empty net. Jeez. 15 goals, 14 different goals. The over hit. The over hits and the avalanche win. Talk you, baby. sane game one against the Minnesota Wilden's second round of the NHL playoffs.

If every game's going to be like that, let's go out. Let's have one. Should be. Hey, let's have one. Goalie's not seeing shit. No. Defense not doing nothing. Not electrifying. Are they changing the rules so that we doofuses can fall in love with the offense and the excitement like the NFL did? I certainly hope so. This reminds me of like growing up and tuning in to McGuire or bombs just going yard two or three times per game. So yeah, maybe just keep you the goalie standing on their feet tonight.

their heads. Let's pivot away from the NHL and its electrifying second round of the playoffs, which started with the avalanche in a wild. Let's go to the NFL, which is always a buzzing. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from a commercial shoot, Adam Schaefter. Hey, Senior! What up, senior?

Gentlemen, what's going on? Hey, how are you doing, man? Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day. What do you got going on? You look great in that suit. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. We are here doing a Masters of the Universe commercial here on Bristol, Connecticut. Okay, how many lines do you have? So far, exactly to my capacity, zero. Zero so far. Are you just on your phone? I've mastered them. Yeah, are you just on your phone in the back,

or what are you doing? I am wielding a 25-pound sward to try to save the day, and so far, I think I've succeeded so far. Well, done. Thank you, Shaqti. Thank you, Shafti. Okay, let's see if you can succeed in your regular job here, which you've obviously crushed at. The pick-in was phenomenal. where you might up the entire night and have you watched the clips back and kind of relived what the draft was and how crazy all of it went? Well, I know that, you know, the funny part about that was someone had mentioned to me that I might be doing it. I'm like, okay, yeah, no problem. Like, we'll figure out what we can do. And the next thing I know, NFL film shows up the day before.

And like, here, we're going to wire you up and you'll be wired for two straight days. And we're going to be following you in your little potter. I'm like, whoa, whoa, like we never went over any of this. and it just kind of dropped on me at the last moment. Nobody called to say this is what's happening. And, you know, it's a little embarrassed. I get very intense during these times like that. It kind of comes through.

But NFL films does such a great job with these shows. And it's a real look behind the scenes, a glimpse behind the curtain at what goes in to these trades, these picks, the choices that each team has. I started to watch it last night. honestly was captivated and then my family and i got diverted by some dog issues and we will get back to it tonight or tomorrow well i'm sorry to hear that about your dog issues obviously you understand uh how that all goes from our side so positive vibes there uh back to the pick is in us watching it um

it was interesting because first we realized oh shepter was miced up that entire time we were talking to him back stage fascinating i think a lot of the boys were trying to recalculate every convo they had i hope they had you on camera when you walked directly into the puddle whenever George Pickens was intending to sign with the franchise tag with Cowboys, which he's... I got to say that. I got to say that. That was shortly after I found out, or at least was of the mind that there was a real possibility that night that the Rams were going to take Ty Simpson. I got a call literally right before that. And so I was in my own element and I stepped right into that puddle as I'm standing with you and who was a post there?

Mark Freeman, Marcus Freeman. Yeah, AJ was there right, exactly. And so I was in my own universe, not a master of my universe at that moment, and just stepped right into the puddle as I was processing the Thai Simpson information and how I was going to play out that night. I think you're a mastering the universe in your own way.

I mean, it's completely locked in, oblivious to everything happening around you. We appreciate you wielding the 25-pound sword for us today in that commercial shoot that you're doing for the Masters of the Universe. Let's talk about the stories of today in the NFL. AJ Brown told a bunch of kids. Love you. Hey, listen. I don't care what you're here. Just not I love you. Okay, and just know that that's the case at his youth camp this past weekend. First of all, love that A.J. Brown does a youth camp in Philadelphia. Love that he does that. Obviously, everybody is presented with the opportunity to do as such. The NFL has a great support system to be able to put these camps on for you. Agencies have put on camps for people. So just doing it and putting the effort into doing it is something in of itself that should warrant a little bit of a celebration to give back to the next generation and to the community.

I appreciate AJ Brown doing this camp because anybody can. The fact that he does is sick. Now, let's get to what he said. Hey, that sounds a little bit like, it sounds a little bit like a breakup potentially comes. Yeah, there's going to be some. I don't care what they say, all right? I love you.

Don't you worry about Uncle AJ. Coach AJ always love you. They're going to say, I said bad things about your city. It's not you. Is that what that is? Or how should we view this as he tells these youth campers that he appreciates everything? Well, I think he knows where his future is headed at this moment, and it will be a matter of the Patriots and the Eagles getting together to basically process the trade, finalize the trade, make sure it happens. But again, there's nothing that has transpired here, despite all the events in New England, that has deterred this trade from coming off.

I still think it is on track. I still think it's going to happen. I still think it will involve. a future one, likely at 2028 first-round traffic. I still think all these elements are in place, and I still think that once we get to June, that these two sides will get together and complete a trade that will send A.J. Brown to the New England Patriots. Now, again, this morning I was watching ESPN Sports Center early, and they had a piece where they were doing their features on,

I scored a touchdown on the Super Bowl. And I saw that they had AJ Brown on this one. They were featuring his touchdown in the Super Bowl. He says, hi, I'm AJ Brown, Philadelphia Eagles, and I thought to myself, they may have to edit that in about a month here coming up here. That's what I think. But we'll see how it all plays out. I like that you can't enjoy content.

You have to correct it. I appreciate that. I have a similar issue, but I do like the fact that they have it on tape, you know, and he has a great history with the Eagles. I mean, they did great things together. Hey, that was a great trade by the Eagles for him from the Titan. What a title. Okay, that was obviously worked out very well for both sides.

If it is over in June, as if you have basically guaranteed and confirmed, Hell of a run. Can't wait to see him in New England. New England people need something to bring him upbeat a little bit. A lot of whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, right now. You got to wait until at least June 1st. It's something's coming around to Ben. Let's talk about some other quick stories here as you have an out in your to save the world soon. Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, Shepty, now that the draft has cleared teams, they're starting to look at the free agents that were left over. Joku was visiting the Chargers. Juan Jennings. Last week was visiting the Vikings. There's others out there, Bosa, Stefan Diggs. There's a lot of big names left. with those ones, the first ones, and Joku and Juan Jennings,

they'd let him out of the building, so does that mean he's not going to Minnesota? What's the update on the latest big name free agents? You know, those are some compelling names and some players that can help some rosters, and we're past the compensatory draft pick parade, so now these players can sign with these teams, and teams don't have to worry about how it will impact

their future compensatory draft pick. So I would imagine you'll see some of these guys fall into place here, as you mentioned, and Joku visiting the Chargers. We had Juan Jennings kicking off with the Vikings last week. These guys have waited for their number, and the number in May is not going to be as attractive as they would like. That's the issue.

So at what point do we get to a spot where the players say, okay, I'm willing to live with what they're offering. I'm comfortable enough with what's on the table to accept an offer to move forward. And I think that's the process that all these players, some big-name players who could provide some real production, are now going through. And all these guys will get jobs, by and large, I think, before training camp. But he'll come in drips and drabs is the way I would imagine it.

Oh, a couple drips and drabs. Let's talk about some drips and drabs quickly as you have about 30 seconds. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, a very serious situation with Sorsby. And granted, you know, a lot of things have to happen. But let's say that he is cleared and, you know, he is able to enter the supplemental draft. Do you think a lot of NFL teams would be interested in Sorsby? Did you get a read, especially around draft time?

like, hey, there were already teams looking forward to him being in the draft next year? And how do you see that situation playing out if he is, you know, all the legal things are kind of done with? I'm glad you asked that question before I had to go save the universe because to me, this is a really compelling storyline here that's going to play out here in the next few weeks. If his eligibility is not restored and I don't know that it will be, there's a real possibility that he will then try to enter the supplemental draft. And the last time I think a player has been picked in the NFL supplemental draft was in 2019. So it's been a while since there's been a player who's picked. And I do think that if he gets into the supplemental draft and the league agrees to have a supplemental draft, all questions that would have to be answered here in the coming weeks.

I think that we would get a team that uses a high pick, a high pick on Brendan Suresby. Now, I don't know whether that's going to be a first-round draft pick. Interestingly enough, the New York Jets have three first-on draft picks. But the way I understand it is, if you're going to give up one of your ones, that could be the highest pick. And so I don't know that anybody in a draft that has this many quarterbacks next year is going to be willing to give up its one. That'll be a question. But I absolutely think that once we get past round one, if nobody did it there put in for him, I think we could absolutely see round two. somebody put in for Suresby at that point.

That would not surprise me. And by the way, I wouldn't be Florida if he went in the first round either. Like there are a lot of people that think he is a real talent, a bona fide prospect. And I think this is going to be one of the great storylines that plays out here

over the next couple of months. Does he have his eligibility restored? Does he enter the supplemental draft? If he's in the supplemental draft, where is he going? Because I think it's going to be fairly high. And what's the deadline again for the declaration? His agent was told by the league that it was June 30th.

The league has told me there's no deadline. I think that it's such a rare circumstance that nobody really has the actual answer. They're still sorting through it. But I would think here in the next five, six weeks he'll know. And really, that question of the answer, and he hired Jeffrey Kessler, the noted attorney. If he can get his eligibility restored, not even a question or an issue. But if he can't, and he's going to try to end. enter the supplemental draft.

We have to see if the league's going to have the supplemental draft. I don't think the deadline is the issue, but they'll figure out a way to get it worked out. Deadline is certainly a thought if the NCAA is involved because they don't move that quick. If he was to with Jeffrey Kessler, who repped Jordan, I believe, whenever he took on NASCAR in this monopoly thing that was happening before the season, I believe he's been a part of Bounty Gate. I believe he's been a part. Jeffrey Kessler has experience in these waters, I do believe. So hopefully he's able to expedite the entire process.

we'd like to let Soresby know, though, that if he gets a fresh opportunity to go to the NFL and all this other stuff kind of just stops, if that's the case, not a bad idea there either. But hey, do you, do your thing, and we hope you get all the help that you need going forward Sorsby because you're a hell of a talent. We don't need you wasting it. We need you on the field for at least 15, 20 years. That's how we feel about it on. Look at the last case that Jeffrey Kessler just won.

Look at the last case he just won. The streaming movies case. That was him. This guy, he's the man. He kind of gets it. That's what Shifty saying. Well, now there's literally millions of dollars at stake here for Soresby in college or in the NFL. You're the man.

Go save to the universe, ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Schaefter. Yay, Shepty. Thank you. Thank you for taking time. Fascinating, though, because if he says he's no longer doing the NCAA college, then the NCAA investigation would stop, right? Yeah, unless they have to do what's called where, but he couldn't even come back. so they wouldn't even have to do. Yeah, their show applause.

Hardball. Yeah, because Hardball just, what, shut it down? He can't get my phone. Yeah, I'm going to Los Angeles. Yeah. Okay, well, you can't coach in the NCAA for 10 more years. Five. Right?

Yeah, we didn't really hear anything else after. It's like, Shoresby could be the first player to be like, what's that? The NFL is saying, I could decide, today's today. All right. Hey! I'm going to fucking league. Yep. It is interesting for a team like the Jets, like, Chefty was talking about it, has three first rounds.

they're like, yes, we'll do a first. We'll do a supplemental. We'll give away one of our first for the 2027 draft. Not the first one. Maybe the third of our ones. Yeah. Can you designate your second first or your third first whenever you do it? I'd assume it's all negotiable.

I think, you know, hopefully he's getting the help and got the help that he needed and that he's not going to be addicted to this, which it seems like he potentially is, became part of his daily habit from what we learned and heard and saw. We don't know anything about all of the details, but we just know the vague stuff that's been out there. Hopefully he gets to help. he gets another shot to kind of reset his entire life and it is the league. Congratulations, man. I hope you take to make the most of it.

Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, his senior NBA insider, Sham Sharanya. Yeah, Sean. Sean, sorry. We talk a little bit there to kind of clear up the Sorsby stuff as we wrapped it up because he could potentially just walk out on an NCAA investigation. It feels like, but whatever ends up happening, we know that we don't know. We hope that the right thing is happening for Sorsby, the human. Now, let's move to the NBA.

You guys are already firing coaches, huh? Orlando Magic, take the number one overall seed pistons to seven. And all of a sudden we say, let's get this coach the hell out of here. It's just your standard operating procedure immediately after a loss. You move on from your coach if that's the decision you're going to make. And how many of these coaches should we see moving on probably? This is just the start, I think, of different coaches that are being under evaluation based on playoff outcomes. And this magic team, they went out and got Desmond Bain last off season. and they had expectations to contend in the Eastern Conference.

And then this year, they losing the first round for the third straight year. They were hovering around 500 at different points. Jamal Mosley had a lot of good that happened. Two division titles went to the playoffs three consecutive years for the first time since 2011 in Orlando. And listen, he's going to get another shot in the NBA. He's going to get another look. But this is a team that had accumulated a ton of expectation. on this team. Jeff Welman, the president, who we just saw right there. He actually got extended

during the season right before the NBA Cup Final Four, so he's going to lead the coaching search for the next head coach of the Orlando Magic. But around Paulo, Bancaro, Franz Wagner, Jalen Suggs, Desmond Bain, this has, this team has aspirations to contend. The problem is, especially those three guys. Suggs, Bankero, and Wagner have played about 20% of their games the last two to three years together. And that is going to be an issue, whether it's for Jamal Mosey or the next head coach. Wagner, getting hurt against the Pistons,

was a big part of the storyline of the Pistons coming back. A lot of people are saying maybe Dusty May gets poached out of Michigan down to Orlando. Tibido potentially a name being involved. And how do these coaching searches normally go? Are we going to hear all the names that we potentially just think are available? We're still very early on this process. Anyone that knows anything about Orlando, they're going to keep things, you know, very buttoned up in terms of this is now the start of the process.

They fired Jamal Mosley. There was a point that I heard over the last few weeks that even though a lot of people on the NBA expected this outcome, if the magic were to lose in the first round, no real names had surfaced or there was not that back channel conversation that took place. But now Jeff Welman and the Magic will be going through their search. I mean, listen, there's going to be a ton of names that get thrown around. I particularly don't see Dusty May. I think he has a good thing going at Michigan. I would expect probably this search to focus on guys with experience at the head coaching position,

guys that have had a level of success in the playoffs, taking teams deep. Because that's really, if you're trying to compete and contend, that's really what you're looking for. Okay, let's go to the medical tent, D. Butt. Absolutely. Some franchise players. These some health updates on Antman, Joel Embedd, and Luca Donchie's potentially coming back. Yeah, Anthony Edwards is just insane, an absolute Wolverine. Today's nine days to the day he had a bone bruise hyper extension in his left knee.

And I'm told today he is pushing the Timberwolves, their medical staff. He wants to play tonight. He has made it clear to the Timberwolves. The Timberwolves internally didn't expect him to really be a viable candidate to play in a game until game three or game four. when this series shifts back to Minnesota this upcoming weekend. But Anthony Edwards got a workout in on Saturday. He got in a couple, you know, at least one workout on his own as well privately. He worked out on Sunday with the team.

He has not gone through a full practice. Today he participated in a significant, he did most everything at shoot around today, drills with the first team. And so he hasn't gotten the full clearance from the team's medical staff. But Anthony Edwards right now, as in this moment, is pushing the team. and he wants to play tonight in game one as this series starts in San Antonio. Nine days to the exact date he had this gruesome-looking injury. Yeah, and his knee, it was disgusting.

I mean, I didn't even want to show it on this show. I said, no, we're not showing it because of how disgusting it was. I don't know how he didn't tear shit, break shit. I don't know how none of that happened. Absolutely phenomenal athlete. And what a stud if he's able to make his way back. Okay, let's talk about some of the other guys that he mentioned there. Joel M. B. can talk about him.

his resurgence back into my life has been fun because they're recirculating all the hits from Joel Mbide both as a Twitter star. He was one of the greatest tweeters in the history of Twitter and obviously as he's grown older, I think he's kind of fallen out of just demoralizing and ruining people online. I think he's more so focused on other stuff,

but Tyrese Max, he's unbelievable. Paul George is having a second coming. It feels like the Sixers are real. Is Joelle M. Bid going to be able to maintain down the stretch? are the Sixers a true threat in the eyes of everybody else left for sure, right? You have to be, especially the way Joel Lambie is playing. And what's crazy is you're seeing him adapt his game. He's changed his game.

He was known as this brute force score, but he's spending time at three-point line. He's playmaking. Just for him to be on the court, him at 70, 80 percent of what Joe Al-Lambita is known for is better than most players. I mean, period. They're 100%. So Joe Lombita seems to be healthy. He's listed probable to play tonight in game one.

So the expectation obviously is that he plays. But the run that Philadelphia was on, and I just think about everything Joel Embed has been through throughout his playoff career. He's dealt with ligament damages in his knee. He's dealt with ligament damages in his fingers and thumbs. He's dealt with Bell's palsy on his face. He's dealt with orbital fractures. He has had every injury you can possibly imagine on the human body.

all around the playoff time. Some of them he's gutted out. Some of them he's not been able to gut out. And this year, even in that game in game seven, he looked like he hyper-extended his knee multiple times. And he played through it. He came back just two weeks after an appendectomy. Just for him to play, obviously, for them,

that gives them a chance. Yeah, hell, yeah, I can't wait to watch it. We've been trusting the process, long time. Long time over there. Got to go metal, though. Go to go to a medal. I'm excited to see it kind of get to the mountains up. Now, let's talk about the Lakers.

They're going to take on, obviously, the mountain right now. Luca are going to be back this series? Where are our expectations on John Chick playing basketball? Yeah, Luca Donchich, all expectation he's going to be out to start the series. My understanding, as of yesterday, he hadn't done full-fledged contact work, full-fledged, like, really unabated running. Like, he hasn't gone full-fledged yet when it comes to that. And so, obviously, you have to be able to run fully, do some contact workouts, one on one, two on two, whatever in order to be able to play in games.

I know one on one, two. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We don't have enough time in the calendar. I don't think if he's not doing any. If he's not doing one on zero to play. The aunt, aunt, I'm not, you know, Ant is, is doing these full hard workout, individual workouts. Yeah.

Just like, I'm playing in the game. The different injuries. You know, to be able to run and play. I think even if individual you're able to run with no limitations. I think maybe then you're just like, hey, I'm playing. I don't care what you say. We know Luke is a dog, too. We know Luke is a dog, too.

We know he'll have a beer immediately. We know he's a dog. I will also say the hamstring is a little bit different than, you know, a twisted knee per se. Like if you're dealing with a bone bruise, hyper-extensioning, some things are pain tolerance. If a hamstring, if you're not able to push off your leg with a soft tissue injury, that can also be different. Yeah, I mean, Hammy's, Hamys just decide, too.

They kind of pick and choose when you're coming back when you're not yet. And if you're just not far enough back and you decide to go, the hamsham will punish you. It'll say, yeah, actually, we're going to continue to do this,

which is always the fear. Can't live in your fears, but you do have to make decision for yourself and your team. We appreciate you joining us, Shams, you're the man. Appreciate you guys. Thank you.

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We've got the things. We've got the things. Ladies and gentlemen, let's continue with the NBA conversation with a man who is one of four players to win a title with three different teams dispersed the raptors the lakers he was a second round that out of north carolina and nc ncdbara champion ladies and gentlemen a one-time old defense team which we like yes we do bob wood yeah yeah he's probably he's done at his camera and so many times one of the best ever oh ladies of gentlemen danny green yeah is this hey so guys how you guys doing is this wood

look familiar to you, huh? This is Cameron. Oh, yeah, yeah. I had some good nights in Cameron. I was fortunate enough to have a good team. I had a good team. Yeah, absolutely. You're a poor, a good team, Danny.

Thank you for joining us, and we don't feel as if you're going to die at any second. You know, last time when you were joining us, my anxiety, our anxiety, through the roof. We know you're a talented driver. We know you understand awareness and everything like that. But at any moment, if somebody was high, we would have felt terrible.

So thank you for rescheduling here for us. I appreciate you guys making work, make it work for me. Yeah, no problem at all. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards here. Shams just told us that he is doing everything and his power to play just nine days after a hyper extension of his knee that caused a bone bruise. Whenever you see a player like Anthony Edwards, his dog mentality is like the only way I can kind of describe it. What do you think that means to his team? And what do you think this means the science if he's able to recover this quickly, Danny?

I think it means more to his team than to science. you know like I said I heard you guys talking about the Luca thing and him I said it's not as serious of a tendon issue it's more of a bruise and how much pain he can endure so I mean I think it means the world to his team like his team knows that he's not leaving him out there you know we've seen other cases where guys have had some injuries where people might question it and they're like you know where's he at why is he not on the bench or why is he not working out with the team you know he's actually being around the group and wanting to try to give it a go and we know how much of a difference it makes for that group group when he's on the floor. His numbers against the spurs this year, I think pretty astronomical compared to the rest of the season or against other teams. So it would make a big difference in the series if he can play. Even if he does play and is 100% healthy, I don't know. I'd still probably give the edge to the spurs, but he definitely could make it, he could change that narrative. You want a title that? Do you have to say that? You feel obligated? Yeah. No, I don't. Not at all. You don't because that's three teams. You're one of four

players in history to win with three different teams. Do you feel obligations to represent for each team individually? No, I mean, I try to be not biased. Again, when I was talking to Toronto, Cleveland series, I played for both those teams. And I'm probably more tied to Toronto than I am Cleveland. And I said Cleveland win in seven games. So, yeah, I'm not tied. I don't feel like I need to say to that. Yeah, I'm just studying the game. There's proof. Nobody's spite is incredible to watch, by the way. Every time it comes playoff time, I think to myself, man, maybe I should watch Cavaliers games during the regular season. And then I immediately remember there's no way I'd be able to do that ever.

So I kind of get bummed out about it. But he is a special player, fun to watch. Dog mentality, you talk about it. He has it obviously in bunches. I appreciate the fact that tonight on NBC, we have two bangers. Sixers at Knicks at 8 o'clock and then 9.30 wolves at Spurs. That's going to be a late one. But obviously the Wemby Anthony Edwards show will be worth it.

Let's talk about the Sixers and Knicks. Sixers just knock out the Boston Celtics in such a beautiful fashion, you know? The Sixers are coming. The Sixers are coming. One if by land, two if by C. And he would be playing. He's Joelle Embed. Now, what are the chances here that the Sixers are able to continue to go here?

And is this the Knicks best path to continue to move forward to try to win a championship? Yeah, I think this is their best go, but it's not going to be easy one. This is a tough one. And it all depends on how healthy Joelle is. He was pretty banged up in the series of Boston and got even more banged up toward the end of that series. He took a shot to the knee, ankle, like a couple people landed on him. Obviously, he's kind of on the floor a lot, so that doesn't help.

And Tyrese Max, he's been playing at high level. Paul George, another guy that's kind of reemerged himself and looked like a younger PG. So those guys have been playing well. Vijay Edgecombe has been hooping some, but it's really going to rely on how healthy, you know, Joel is matching up with Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson. Like those two guys have really dictated

the series because of how they control the boards and rebounds. And then, you know, it's going to be a challenge for their wings. But if Joel is healthy, they have a pretty good shot. They went to seven games two years ago, you know, the same kind of group that shows you how powerful that Joel is and Tyrese Maxi are as a duo. I would

love to see the Sixers go. Just for the Philadelphia fans. Yeah. Because this Sixers team has been hyped for what, 10 years now. Long time. Right? Has it not been? They've made a lot of moves

in and out to try to hype it up even more. Paul George going over there was a massive ordeal. Now it's just like Paul George is on Joel and Tyrese Maxi's team, which is a crazy even thought and all because Paul George can rattle off what, 15 straight if he really gets going in the middle of it. Good for Philly. Good for the Sixers fans.

Good for Embed to. Yeah, they need it. They definitely need it. Embeddeeds been embattled, you know, and beating the Celtics is obviously special. Let's go to the West here with obviously a potential dynasty in the making. Go ahead, Dee By. Yeah, obviously, this Lakers Thunder series, it always starts with LeBron. You beat

him in the finals. You won the finals with him. What is it about him on this level? And then what makes OKC so great, so great of a team, and then how do you see this series going? Which makes OKC so great. I mean, they have

great defense, but it starts with the collective chemistry. Like, off the court, on the court, they actually enjoy playing together. You know, they've been together for a couple of years. You don't see that often in the NBA. Like we're now even in college because of NIL, the teams that went far in a tournament,

the teams that had juniors and seniors that have been together three or four years. Like, this group has been together for a couple years now. They have some experience. They have championship DNA. They have a leader in Shea, one of the best players in the world, if not the best player in the world. And the only thing that Lakers have a chance

because Jaylon Williams is out. But Bron, he always gives you a chance. And now you have Austin Reeves back. And they're also playing together as a collective. That's the reason why. Everybody counted them out against Houston. But that's the reason why they beat Houston because guys like Marcus Smart, Luke Carnard stepping up and toward the end of the season that last month,

they really came together and bonded defensively, offensively. And they're used to playing without guys because all year long they've had Austin out, Luke out, and Bron out. So they know what it's like, what it takes and who needs to step up when one of those guys goes down. So it's going to be a fun series. Still give the edge OKC. See, I'm not biased. I'm a Laker, but I'm going to give the edge of KC.

and I think this probably goes, you know, I like to see it go six games. Six games, okay? Like, okay, seeing six. I watched that Oklahoma City team do what they did last year, kind of start this entire crazy pace. And then we ran into Caruso at one of the college game days. And he was like, how are you guys doing? He's like, uh, yeah, we've lost like two games or something like that.

Like what? This Oklahoma City team has just been dominant, right? From jump, Danny? Is it a clear head and shoulders difference between them and every other team throughout the season and everything? Or do they have some faults that maybe LeBron James would be able to figure out? They are vulnerable.

They were heading shoulders to start the season. They started off like 24 and 1, but since then, you know, there's another team that they're not playing right now out West that kind of had their number. But they've shown some vulnerability. But toward the end of season, Shay has just been on a tear, even without J. Dub. And I think that's where it said they have injuries.

They've been guys in and out of the lineup. So that's where they show some vulnerability. And I guess they weren't great at shooting from the perimeter. So we'll see it. Obviously, the game is about makes it misses and who's going to shoot well from the perimeter. But defensively, I think that's where the difference is. And that's why Oklahoma City is favored to win the championship. That's right, Danny.

In the past, you know, three or four years. That's right, Danny. Absolutely. As you cut out there, I finished your thoughts. I think you said something differently than I said, but we both kind of got to the same place at the same time. LeBron James, fun facts. Same age as both head coaches in this series. Same age as JJ and Dags.

So shout out to LeBron. Another head coach on the floor. You know, that's kind of how it's always been chatted about. I love that the NBA is crushing. I love that the ratings are all the way up into the right. Now, I also like that there's some drama brewing Danny. Former player, obviously multiple time champion, now one of the talking heads of sport.

Can't wait to get your thoughts on all this. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Danny. He's talking about Jalen Brown going live on Twitch. As a Celtics fan, I appreciate the access you get. And then at a certain time, it's like, hey, when you say your favorite season of basketball was the season that you played without Jason Tatum,

That kind of rubbed some fans the wrong way, myself included. He did mention in there kind of talking about how, you know, the NBA has a flopping problem. Like Joe L. Embed flops. He know he flops. But at the same time, he also knows it's going to help them win and, you know, basically help his team. The same conversation goes on with SGA, who we were just talking about, you know, kind of knowing your spots and just knowing how the game is called. What is kind of your entire take about the whole entire kind of flopping thing? I know a couple years back, they tried to change it where kind of the landing zone, where

if it wasn't an unnatural shooting motion and you did that, then it wasn't actually a foul. That kind of seems to have dwindled to the back and that is getting called again. How do you think they fix it and can they fix it? I think they can fix it. Well, first, I want to say I think Jalen Brown had an unbelievable season and I don't think he meant his favorite season was without Jason Tatum. I think it was as a collective, they had a great season as a group and added. him at the end of the year.

He said it twice, Danny. It's his feelings. He's a lot to feel how he feels. So am I. They hooped. They showed a lot of character. He had his best season. And this was a team that had no expectations before the beginning of the season.

And they changed that narrative and those expectations throughout the season because of how well they played. But he's right. He's not wrong. I just think the timing was wrong. Like great message, great messenger. Wrong timing. Like right after game seven.

You know, you probably wait a little bit of time. But there is a flopping issue. And as a difference. offensive person, like I'm more biased toward the defense. I would like to see the defense have more, you know, abilities allowed to play it, you know, and be more physical. Only certain teams, certain players are allowed to, but there's a way to cut out the foul baiting. And great players will adjust.

They'll still be great. They'll still find ways to score and still get to free the line. But there is a flopping problem, and they can change it. They emphasize, you know, the beginning of the season, the flopping where they call technicals. They haven't done that in a long time. So there is a way to change it. The referees have to referee the game differently. and I mean we'll see if that ever happens,

but there is a flopping issue in our league and it kind of think deteriorates the product when you have to see so many free throws throughout the game when you're just trying to watch the flow of the game. But it's definitely doable, something you can change, and I don't think he's wrong. James Hardin was back on his bullshit yesterday. It was awesome.

It was great to see. It's like if Bob Ross was to come back from heaven and start painting again, you have to watch it. James Harden had a classic from-half court guy accidentally puts his hand out. Shoot in a three, shoots three free throws,

gets the 18 points. Okay, this fourth quarter. It's like he's definitely getting to 20. Everybody on the court should have known that. He gets right past half court,

two guys on him. He literally bounces off a guy, dives out of bounds, spears the coach into the crowd. Oh, yeah. It gets two more worth 20. Forger,

it was spectacular to watch. I think he's the first one I think of whenever I go back to like being able to get manipulating. Baton. Yeah. He was so good at, I mean, it was.

Yeah. And then it was. He's a master class. He was one of the first guys to kind of know how to manipulate the game a little bit. But I would say he was a guy that got hit quite a bit. They stopped calling it for him. But there was other guys like Trey Young that learned how to stop jump backwards. They changed rules for certain guys.

You know, Jalen Brunson's in there. SGA is in there. Even Luca, Yokic, Joel, and B. Like, there's a lot of guys in. And the stars, they could say about every MVP that's one MVP because they got a lot of free throws. and the argument was you can't touch him. It's a skill to know how to draw fouls, but it would also be that good

where guys can't stop you and have to foul you a lot of times. But James is one of the originators, and that's how he was one of the best scores in this game because he also knew how to get to a free throw line. Yeah, he was unbelievable. And if you didn't guard him, he was going to make the shot. So he kind of got you in a spot where you got it.

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But not everything makes it through. Obviously, we have gates outside. So whenever delivery shows up, it doesn't make it past gate. Then it goes into a purgatory world that we don't know where it is. Some things get in. Some things are not really boxed that well. So they kind of just blend in with everything else. And they never get seen. Some things have incredible boxes for him. instance, Kenny Wood sent me a sign that. Oh, did that. Can we wait to unwrap that? That's a classy organization. Yeah, another sign. Another, I don't know if you saw a slew of polos. Love that. Oh. Yeah, I got the steel curtain polo. Oh, the ones we didn't pick up. What? They just sent them in the mail. I like that. I'm assuming whatever you got looks

just like that thing. By the way, right that. I mean, you see it right there right now, bottom left. It's a good logo on the screen. It's fantastic. Double down. Maybe you sent a bigger one. made it impossible to get out of the box. I loved it. Yeah, I loved everything about it. Unboxing these things is certainly a problem. And if we do get just a little bit, it's like whenever you're golfing

and a ball goes into the rough. And it disappears. We've all seen it here, right? I'm done looking for it. It's all in this area. I'll drop it here, okay? If it's hard to find, we're moving on. Oh, yeah.

The box is tough to open. We move on. Toss it. Well, you've got to package things with care. No, I understand, but I don't need 50. Well, wraps a tape around that thing. Okay, both sides, triple sides. Don't need that.

Maybe it's a glass fabricé, Kenny Wood sign. You know what, you're right. Thank you so much. Now, we see it. It's yellow wood right there and still wrapped up because all the damn tape. I'm not just talking about the incredible sign here.

I'm talking about everything that comes in here. We're very grateful for it. But just know that it is hit or miss on whether or not it makes its way into us and whether or not we see it. But if you send it in, we appreciate you. If you watch, I appreciate that. And that hoodie is awesome.

Thank you to your dad and to all veterans out there. Joining us now is in all. A man who has led a franchise in tackling for how many years, though? I just currently was doing it back in. Since him or forever? Since him. How long has he been leading it for? Probably seven, eight years, ten years.

Probably 2015 when you're 2014. He's been retired for ten years. And he probably got it before he. So maybe 20 or 12. 14, 14, 15 years. This guy's been the all-time leading tackler for the green bed package for 15 years. Easily. Wow.

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And the next closest, the guy who's kind of chasing him down, he signed with the Raiders. So it looks like there's going to be another. Restart the clock. Yeah, restart it.

Oh, a man who's going to be the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers for at least two more generations. A. A.C., a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw. Yeah. Oh, good haircut today on A.J. Hawk. How are you, pal?

I'm doing great. How you guys doing? You're right? Life is good. here, you know, daughter's birthday today, happy birthday to McKenzie. I appreciate everybody's well wishes and being kind to me over the weekend, all the happy birthday wishes I got. AJ, it was good for my soul to see the nice things, you know? Usually I hate these things. They get really uncomfortable. People are saying really nice stuff to me. I needed it. You know, life had been life and pretty good there for a bit and people are super kind. So I'm very

grateful for that. Birthdays are nice, man. You know, perspective is normally something that can only come from a devastating situation. I thought about this this morning more so than maybe ever. especially with McKenzie's third birthday. Normally perspective comes from, like, bad things. Man, McKenzie's third birthday is an incredible thing. Great perspective coming from that. My birthday, great perspective coming from that. It's like anytime you can get a reset

on how life is kind of being viewed by you, I view it as a good thing. And this weekend was special. This morning was awesome, celebrating with her. And, yeah, life is good, AJ. Sports are awesome, too. We got our final eight in the NBA and in the NHL. The MLB is continuing to absolutely crush it.

The NFL has drama all the time. Life is good, age. How are you over there? Oh, I'm doing great. Obviously, it is weird getting older. You're right, but it gives you perspective on certain things. And I think the good thing is you start to not worry about the dumb garbage stuff that you tend to worry about when you're a younger person maybe.

So that's a good thing. I think age will bring you at times, especially having kids too. If you realize like, all right, man, like we got, we're okay. My kids are fine. We're okay. I had a full conversation about whether or not I wanted to continue to be petty, my 40th trip now. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not there. I'm still. I decided. With who yourself or? I mean, you got to be you. You got to be you. Yeah, but perspective, you know, that would be something that I could get rid of. You know, because it could get rid of it.

But I said it deserves to at least see 40. Sure. You know, it deserves to at least make it. Might as well bring it over the hill with you. Exactly. And then maybe we put it out, you know, because then we'll move on. But it was a nice little, hey, what do I want to continue to care? Because this would be my 40th, right?

Right now I'm doing it? This is my 40th? Yeah. Because you're zero for the first year. 40th trip. Because when you turn 39, you've completed your 39th trip, right? Because you don't turn 1 until you. until you've gone 365 days.

So, like, this is currently my 40th trip, I believe, around the sun. So it's like, how do I want this one to go? I had a full conversation with myself, this first time. Out loud? Was it out loud? A couple of them made their way to my ears. You know, normally it was inside of them. I'd catch myself late going, yeah, but why would I do that?

And who am I talking to right now? Myself, okay, let's go ahead and move on. Maybe we stop that. Maybe we don't do that for the 40s, but yeah, it was cool. It was cool to see what I want to continue to do. And I do believe McKenzie's the main changer and driver of basically everything in that. You know, it's cool. Yeah.

She's awesome. That is how it works. You're right. And she's getting at the age, too, where, yeah, it's getting super fun. You got another one on the way that. And, you know, you already heavily involved in sports. I heard you talking about her young soccer career already in the show today. That's right.

2030. She's going to be, our, 240. She's going to be the youngest ever, I think, in the World Cup. And then we need her. We need her. She's ready. She's right. In the women's national team for something.

has been so good for so long. She understands that it's an elite bunch, and she's going to work for it. She understands. She's going to understand. She's got out of work for it. She's got a lot of energy, which I like. Huge.

She's a little bit of people, which I do like. And I think she's naturally kicking the ball lefty, which is good, because we got some messy tape to show her. You know, we got some. They're going to go. He is, isn't he? Oh, yeah. He's continuing to just carry that team down their entire franchise.

What a genius, David Beckham is. Let's go ahead and invest in this entire thing. Struggle a little bit in our new stadium. He made an appearance at the Miami Can't we speak after a big loss? That's all I heard about. Messy's dodging accountability? No, no, no.

It's to do with the loss per se. They sent the youngsters out there for him, they said. They do the same thing every game. Messi never talks. Why doesn't he talk? He doesn't have to. He can't be held accountable. He doesn't like talking.

He just likes kicking. The CR 7 doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, we'll see you. Yeah, you see CR 7 in the Saudi League yesterday. Watch some highlights, dude. Nobody watches that Saudi League. Exactly. Nobody watches either.

league. Does it matter? What? Actually, sold out. Every Miami game, what was it, 76,000 at the last game? Hey, the stadium looks awesome. Have you seen it? It's all pink. No, I haven't seen it, Pat. He just scored.

I think he just scored. I'm just kidding. Was it one of the nights I was at the bar? It was on one of the TV. The stadium looks sick. That's the first time that I've seen. I guess Columbus built a stadium and everything, and I assume there's a big highlight of that. We know the Pittsburgh Riverhounds have an incredible stadium down there by the river. And that's obviously filled up.

But that Miami one looked big. You said 76,000 people were in a MLS, strictly MLS stadium. No, that was in an away game. This one's not that big. They played at a massive stadium. I forget who it was again. There was a few weeks ago. Maybe Dallas is 76,000.

I got a bad feeling. I thought they were doing 76,000 a night down in there. That would be cool. It's too much, way too much. Yeah, that's Dreamland. They might get there. How was the F1 down there in Miami? I heard it was a dream come true.

Phenomenal. Messy made his presence failure. showed up in a few different garages, but the most probably pictures or content you saw was from the Mercedes garage because young Kimmy Antinelli has won his third race in a row. A major old. That name is a certain sounder. Yep. Young Italian, man.

Mercedes won all four races this year. He won the last three. First driver, first driver ever to convert his first three poles into three victories. So it sounds like it's pretty easy. A 19-year-old just coming in there and just winning this thing? What's his name? What's the Pison's name? I mean, sometimes you have a Wimby or a LeBron.

or Luca come along and just dominated early. He dominated on every level. They sped him up, put him up in the top car. And last year is his rookie year. And this season, he's been dominating. Got a great car as well. Yeah, well, great car obviously helps. 19-year-old winning's good for the future.

But we want to talk about what's happening now. I saw you posting about it. What's that? Max Vanver stopping is he no longer a crime getter for you? This guy's a loser now? Max vanver stopping is a loser. He doesn't like the car this year. Max, he doesn't like the car.

Last year either. But I mean, Max, Max is kind of always a potter. He's always potter. Oh, he's a bitch dog. He was his biggest fan, Dee. But you love the Max Ven versus Stapalton. He's not about pot. You like Patton.

He dominates and they expected some shitty conditions. He was starting at a P2. So I'm like, all right, it's going to be rain. It's going to be some shit. Max figured out, yep. Yeah, place two is what they call. You know, he finished. You just P2 is.

Did he finish in second then I would do it? No, he finished. I want to say maybe six or seven. Oh, this guy sucks. He went on a very risky strategy. Did work out. Vander sloppy. What would that be, but?

Vendor sloppy. Vanver sliding down the shoots and ladders quickly, it sounds like. So this guy goes backwards instead of forwards and races now? Maybe we don't bet on him, how about it? Maybe we just, maybe quit on a leak. Where's the go? Maybe quit on a whole store. Where's Sir Lewis?

He's getting married, allegedly. He's all caught up. When's going to put his boots back on and get behind the wheel? driving for Ferrari. They're, they're, you know, they're up there. Mercedes dominator.

How's Cadillian? Ferrari. Yeah, how's our guys do? It's Cadillac's first year, look. Okay. We're ass. They're struggling.

You stand down there. Right above Ashton Martin. They've been around for a long time. They both got zero. How? It's tough to get points, man. The top has 180. They have zero.

You can't just walk in and get points. It's the pinnacle. It's saying. Cadillac has zero. So how many opportunities have they had to get points. Four races. You got to get up in the top 10 to get a point. Oh, we're ass. So they're both just... Cadillars. Their facility's not even done yet. I don't know how they're

supposed to win their facilities. Don't have a facility. Okay, let's not mock anything that's happening with Cadillac. We assume they will go from Cadillaz back to Cadillac at some point. Bingo. Because that is what Cadillac, especially American-made cars in teams. How long does the Dodge deal? Do you? With who? With us? I don't even know. Is this still going? I'll tell you what, Cadillac, not too Chevy.

First purchase was Cadillac Escalade the day I was drafted. I did not know that the money was not going to come for a few months. I almost got that thing repoed. But I'll tell you what, we were rolling. Weren't we, Nick? That first day with Cadillac Escalade playing I'm so paid by Acon. Never forget it. Those were the good old days.

Those were the good old days. Just flying around. Living. Living. Absolutely. Cadillac, the good old days. Yeah, I think that is certainly the case. But also, if I need to run something,

something over or pull something. Yeah, now we're talking. Especially out here in Indiana with some of these roads. I'm driving my RAM truck, 2,500 heavy duty. You ever heard that thing? The Rebel? Yeah. Rebel RAM?

Yeah. You're talking about whenever you hit that gas pedal, all you hear is a ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram. The diesel? That's right. No. Yeah. Yeah, it is. He can go both.

You sure? Huh? You sure? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty certain about it. I mean, that's just kind of... It turns on with both. Don't look at the screen. That is kind of what I do, okay?

You're pulling things a lot with that? You said it can pull things. Oh, so many things. And push. I hook them right up to the, I got two ball hanging from the tail. Yeah, you do. Yeah, tail pipe. Yeah.

Two of them down there. No. I don't know what your truck's talking about. I know what mine's talking about. Okay, let's talk about some things happening around the NFL. Malik Willis, the new face of the Miami Dolphins was invited to go throw the opening pitch, you know, a little ceremony. Welcome to the City. show you some support. He walked right out there on a mound and I'll tell you what,

hey, this is how these dolphins career is going to go. The only thing they're going to be celebrating is that 1972 Dolphins team for the rest of my own lives, if you know what I'm saying. Certainly a fascinating throw. I appreciate the fact that he wore a glove out there onto the mound. I assume he warmed up and lathered up. We know that stadium is electrifying, so maybe he was just a little bit juiced up to put on a show. AJ, your first immediate thoughts whenever you see Malik kind of airmail one to start his Miami career. I'm actually very happy to see this. I think the number one thing is you just don't want to bounce it in. Sometimes

it's hard if you're used to pitch it off a mound, you fall down like that and it brings your arm down and boom, that thing bounces to the plate. So absolutely. I think he was aiming to try to hit the backstop behind the catcher. Yeah, I think there is a chance he was trying to put on a little bit of a show, showcase how strong his arm is. D. But I know you saw this as a member of the

Dolpham, the Finns Up community. What was your first thoughts whenever you saw this Miami Dolphins quarterback not be able to complete a throw and catch? If I was I saw this a couple months ago before we start thunderballing in here, and I realized how hard it is to find the strike zone. Maybe had a different feeling. But I saw this and I saw you throw it in the chat and tried to mock my quarterback.

So obviously, I went and did some research, scoured the internet and said, hey, great quarterbacks, shitty first pitch. And a lot came up, including the baby goat Patrick Mahomes. What? I saw him struggle as well. And this guy played baseball. He was on USA juniors. I believe he got drafted, if I'm not mistaken, to play baseball. His pops was obviously a big league pitchers for a long time.

So if Patrick Mahom is doing this and run off, rattled up a couple of Super Bowles, I think Will this would be just fine. Okay, so you're saying ipso facto, if Pavlov's dogs, throw it over catcher become baby goat. Yep. Over too. It's important that it's over, high, like AJ says,

not bouncing. He's aggressive. Let's see you're behind the plate, though. Yeah, well, is Patrick Mahomes, Senior. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes, the second, Jr.? Yep. I think he is, Jr.?

I thought he was. I think he is. I think it was. Man, my brain is here now? It's got the second up here on his. Okay, the second. Patrick Mahomes, the second, who would obviously then request the internet to find another first pitch

that he has done in the past where he threw an absolute inside, strike, nibbling on the edge a little bit there. You know, Patrick Mahomes will go and have some success. I appreciate the fact that he, we put a, we had a stay, Brett features on last week, and I said, it feels like the first time Patrick Holmes kind of overlooked, right? I don't feel like that? Yeah.

It really does. Not talking about it all. Yeah. Nobody really thinks much of the chiefs. The big conversation about the chiefs is that Travis Kelsey's coming back. It's not like, hey, chiefs are going to win a Super Bowl. No. Nobody's like saying chiefs are Super Bowl boundary now.

A lot of people are saying the AFC is actually brand new, let alone the AFC West, which has a lot of big time names out there. And for me, it's just like Patrick Mahomes getting a chance to build another chip on his shoulder after he's already been a made man, already put together a Hall of Fame career. And if we know anything from listening to Tom Brady speak whenever he retired, Drew Bree speak whenever he retired. Peyton Manning, whenever he wrapped up, it's like they are collecting everything whenever they are trying to find their motivation to continue to go. And it feels like the absence of anything being said about Pachma'ams could certainly be a motivator for a man

who's healing way ahead of schedule. They're saying, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I think this is great. And Andy Reid has to love this and where they are in the offseason, especially heading to camp because whenever you're riding high and things are going great, coaches, that's when they are the most. most nervous. Like, hey, I got to de-recruit these guys. I got to get on these guys every single day and make sure that they're staying with it and they're staying locked in. I think now, like, a lot of the work is done for you because of all the, yeah, your season didn't go very well, but it's, it's amazing how quickly people, I guess, forget their greatness. So I think, yeah, I'm looking for big things from Pat Mahomes and this whole team. To be clear, whenever they were

winning and they were playing good during their dynasty run, they would win in ass fashions. Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be like a massive blowout. They were notorious non-coverers. They lost me so much money. Just the chiefs are still the chiefs. I would just get into a microphone. Are the chiefs still in Kansas? Yeah. Do the chiefs still have Andy Reid?

Yeah. Do they still have? Yeah, then the chiefs is still the chiefs. I would take them every single week. And they would lose me money every single week because they never covered. But they covering and the spread was always on what we thought of the chiefs, which was a team that would always win, which they would. They would inevitably win.

There'd be some third down in the fourth quarter where Patrick Mahomes had hit Travis Kelsey. There would be some miraculous play that would take place. They were must watch. Mahomes in of himself is must watch. But they would very rarely blow people out. So that obviously led to people, especially if you're winning all the time,

saying, oh, the football gods are blessing these guys. They're just getting lucky. They're actually not that good. And then once they do have a season where they are ass and he gets hurt, everybody comes out and said the signs were there. The signs were there that they were never really that good. And that's not what the chiefs get a chance to kind of work off of. Yeah, I think a lot of it is a lot of the, you're not hearing Chiefs talk.

I don't hear any anti-Patrick Mahomes talk, though. Like it's always the O-Line stinks. He's been their leading rusher, whatever, the past few years. They haven't been able to run the ball at all. The weapons when Rishi Rice is not in there are not great. Travis is getting old, blah, blah, blah. So it's not like, I don't think it's an anti-patrick thing. It's just a anti, like, hey, he just hasn't been the Superman, the last couple years that he has been the years before being able to

a team that may have flaws. Okay, let's go from Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City Chiefs, not getting talked about enough, to something else that got talked about a lot, and it should. You see Peyton Manning shotgun and beers up there with Josh Eible? Do you see Joey Aguard up there, chucking, or shotgun to some beers and Luke Combs?

Now, Luke Combs is notorious great shotgunner of beer. Yep. He inhales that thing. Puts it down. I mean, he sucks that beer out of the bottom of that hole. Now, shotgun is obviously a science experiment to get a beer out of a can quicker. You got an end-tag hole, you got an outlet hole,

you got some gravity working with you and also air pressure kind of working for you. So that beer can shotgun literally out of that can into your gullet. Luke Combs, notoriously good shotgun taker of beer, has actually done it so often and so well that some people say, this guy's got to have gimmicked cans. He's got to have no beer inside of there. That actually leads to him throwing cans at people, say, hey, why don't you go ahead and come on and dance if you want to? Peyton Manning loves an ice cold beer.

We know that. Yes, he does. He loves an ice cold beer. He went ahead and chugged one. Hippel, we assume he can delete some beers. Yeah. We watch him in front of 100,000 plus with Luke Holmes do just as such. Aguars up there doing his thing.

It's like I love what these musicians are doing with these college tours. Because a lot of these college stadiums, I assume, aren't necessarily built for a world-class show taking over the entire place. Now, granted Neeland Stadium here is outrageously nice. It is beautiful. It is upgraded. it's 114, I think, 113,000, I forget, 108, whatever it is, a thousand people. But I like this happening in a showcase of the college sports communities coming together. We obviously have seen them over the past couple weeks.

We hope that will continue. Zach Bryan did Michigan, 114,000 people or something like that. It's unbelievable what's going on. And I like the boys chugging beers and having a good time out there, AJ. Yeah, it's great. But, I mean, can we get someone to walk out with Morgan Wallen in Vegas? What's going on, man? He's so upset.

Who are the five people that bailed on this guy? I don't know. And why would you? You know, it had to be a scheduling thing. Yeah, or a magician. A trick went wrong. I was lucky. I was potentially. And maybe somebody was there was just invisible.

Yeah. You never know. Maybe you didn't even know. Maybe somebody got bored there. You got some flaky-ass people in his town. I do love that. I like that he called it out too anytime that takes place. Vegas.

I'd like to let Morgan, though, though. Hey, the solo, Dolo walkout, I think hits pretty good too. Also, please. I was very lucky to be a part of one of the first ones. alongside Tyrese Halliburton. That's a good time, man. I mean, that is good. Watching him kind of go through his process before the concert.

Like Coach Saban did it down there in Tuscaloosa with Morgan just a few weeks back. I'll be excited to get Coach Saban's thoughts on Morgan's pre-show kind of routine because there is exercise, workout group. Like, there is like, I believe, a routine because he's sprinting that stadium basically throughout his show as he continues to go there. So, yeah, it's cool, man. It's an incredible thing. He's in Indianapolis this weekend. I can't wait to see who comes out. What's that?

Lucas oil? Yeah, he's in Lucas oil. Sold out a couple of those. Guy sells out everywhere. Yeah. Luke Combs selling out 100,000 plus. Tickets are not cheap. There it is.

Yeah, this is early days of this thing, I think. I'm not 100% sure how many there were. That was fun. Dude, he's, hey. Has anyone ever tripped? I don't think anybody's ever tripped, but there's been somebody that's got hit with something, right? Didn't something happen?

I don't know. It's an incredible, you know, it's classic wrestling, but also it's a great, way to Phil Tom. He also, him and Theo Vaughn, I think for his most recent tour, put together an entire sketch, basically, about turning on the stage. I think he's really smart, because how do you keep people so entertained that are in the top rows whenever you're just by yourself? You know, this is like a professional wrestling question. Like, how do you entertain everybody in the top whenever you're a ring down here in the middle? So the entire

spectacle is a rather big piece of the puzzle, and also, like, kind of moving around. The way these musicians have been able to captivate stadiums, very, very fascinating. Because the sophistication of their shows. I believe if you were to look at them over the last 10 years has really evolved, you know, with everything they're trying to do. I mean, we went to Taylor Swift down at Luke Soles Stadium. That entire thing was.

You were a part of the show, you know? Like, how do you kind of make the show? Oh, you've got to be like a part of it. Immersive, right? It's like an immersive situation, almost like the sphere, but not the sphere. Exactly. Like, you kind of have to treat it that way,

especially with how big these stadiums are. It's like, I think they've done a great job. The Luke one, he did a great job because it's, It's right in the middle of the football field, and it's a circle stage, and the stage spins the entire time. So the entire crowd could see him the whole time. It's not like you're in one end zone, so everyone in this end zone is super far away. Being in the middle, like it was like, there wasn't like a bad seat and house type thing. There was a Dane Cook that started the circle stage for comedians in the arenas or whatever because he was so big.

It was like that into what it is now with Chappelle and Shane and like everybody does it and how they operate it is. It's a wonderful thing, watching people kind of do their job. and Morgan fills the place up. Oh, yeah. I mean, he fills it. And he can play for four hours. A lot of songs. Just one album.

How long is the album? Oh, 10 hours. How many songs do you have 30 number ones on this one song? It's like, on this one album. It's like, this guy's outrageous. This weekend should be a great time. Tonight, second round that a playoff continues to brew. Sixers at Nix, eight o'clock on Peacock and NBC.

Timberwolves, Spurs, 9.3. 30 on NBC and Peacock. I'm excited to see how the boys do out here. I'm excited to see who shows up. I'm excited to see Wemby continued to, you know, try to dominate a league in which he's supposed to be the next chosen one. Is his time now, or is he still a year or two out? We shall see if he can get past the second round.

It'll be interesting to see because in the first round, we talked about it before the first round started because we talked about the regular season and how it was kind of lopside and we said it. Well, normally the playoffs is great, but the first round sometimes not so great. That was not the case. dogs were 24 and 30 straight up. So yes, favorites won the first round of the playoffs, but dogs being that close.

They were plus 18 units if you just took the dogs in every single game. So we'll see if that continues. Yes, the spurs are huge, huge favorites. That's probably because of the injuries. But Sean said Ant's trying to go tonight. So we'll see what happens in that situation. It has gone from 13 and a half to 11 and a half with the speculation that aunt may play tonight.

So we'll see there. And then the Sixers being that big of a dog is kind of interesting after they just knocked out the best team in the, in the east, them being seven and a half point favorites or dogs to the Knicks is an interesting one to watch tonight as well. Do you like that line con move? I like all the underdog lines. I hate

especially right now that they even have 13 and a half up for the Spurs. The fan man that's going to play for the T. Wolves. This timing is what really grinds my gears. Okay. Normally I get it. Okay, you start one at seven you start the other at 930. There's no overlap. If we're getting

overlap, like we are here, I want to watch Wemby. I want to watch You can't have overlap. There's a huge overlap here. It's 8 o'clock at 9.30. It could be 7. Like, it should be 7 in 930 if we're going on. Are we right?

Is the graphic right? I am 90% sure, yes. Yes. Yes, right. And this can't happen. One's big NBC or what? No, they're both. Peacock is weird because YouTube TV has some of the games that are NBC.

It doesn't make any sense. But they shouldn't have this. And if they do have it, then just run them at the same time. Like, how many times is one of the playoff games, especially in basketball? basketball, a 20-point blowout. And then the other one ends up being a real tight game down to the last couple of minutes. You know how the last couple of minutes are.

It ends up being a 10-point game either way. But Wembe is so fun to watch. To put him at 9.30 is just a disservice to the East Coast of the United States of America. And I am sick of it because I do want to watch the whole thing. I mean, it happened last night with Wild Avalanche. That game starts at 9. It's over before midnight. That's perfect.

We can handle that. We can handle that. We still like it to start at 830, but can deal with it being at 9. That 9.30, you would think a half hour makes no difference. It makes... Oh, the second half, it's over. Makes a difference. Half time comes.

That's a lot of downtime. Yeah, and by then it's 1115. I'll tell you, I start doing one of these, laying on the bed, and then I'll just then I wake up, it's the end of the third. Yeah. Where are we at? It's the playoff. Oh, it's the end of the fourth.

Oh, my God, this really matters right now. I miss so much. Oh, what time is it? 12.30. What the, why is this? Yeah. That's how it is. And they have no reason to put that game at night. Like, sure, I get it central time, whatever the, whatever the hell you want, argument you want to make with time.

It's an illusion either way. They just need to have the timings of the games make some sense for everybody. Time is an illusion, AJ. Let's expand upon that, shall we? Let's explore that space. What do you think that means? I would love to know. What does anything mean, actually, Pat?

Oh, no. Now we're getting even deeper in here. It's a fair statement because I'll tell you what, since COVID, I feel like my concept of time is completely changed. What do you mean? I don't know, like three months. It just feels completely different than, say, 2018. Okay, so my daughter is 1,095 days old.

Okay, that is such an interesting timeline that has taken place. You're saying post-COVID. It has really changed how you view everything. Oh, yeah. When was the draft? Two years ago? So I'm saying. Especially with the run, the run that we kind of been on it.

Yeah, exactly. It was mania. A year ago. 50 cent, Tony Ayo. He wished me happy birthday. Tony. Tony. Good guy.

I was so pumped up about that. I was like, I need young meat to find out about this. The idea that time is an illusion stems from modern physics, particularly Einstein's relativity, which suggests the universe is a 4D block where past, present, and future exists simultaneously. Shut up. Time doesn't flow fundamentally. rather our consciousness creates the perception of a linear progression

while physics shows events simply correlate making the now subjective wow wow I wish Einstein was here so I could say what dude now is right now we're all here bro he actually didn't die that long ago I was I was really shocked when I watched that movie Oppenheimer it really shocked me that Einstein was still involved can we just put the spurs at 830 30 that's all that's zoo see that's what we're gonna talk about rest in peace of Sun Tzu by the way he's like a Galileo guy Yeah, black and white photos only of Albert Einstein.

Those could have certainly been portraits. You could have got me. Him popping up in Oppenheimer by the water there. What's he do here? That looks like Einstein. Maybe he looks like time travel. Watching that movie. That surely looks like Einstein right there, doesn't it?

Did he time travel here? Did everybody look like Einstein back then? Why is just? Why are they calling him Albert? Oh, that's actually Einstein. It's crazy. Holy shit. Yeah, Mr. Steve.

And he was really disappointed in Oppenheimer. Einstein? He was so disappointed. You don't think they offered me this type of thing? Yeah. Geez, Einstein. I didn't know. I think he was scared for him.

Yeah, and he knew that E definitely would MC squared. That was a big part of it. It certainly was. Think about the big brains in the past. Oh, my God. Were they viewed like that back then when they were alive, though? Oh, yeah. I assume they got a lot of hate, though.

Like now you just hear Einstein, you think like, oh, super genius. Was everybody thinking that back then? A lot of it was secret, too, right? Like a lot of the things were classified. Well, and does... Well, for the bomb? Does only his bangers survive, though, like everything else? You know, like, as we look back on musicians,

we only remember their heat. We don't remember the drops that were absolutely terrible. Like, do we only know Einstein for his hits? And did he have a bunch of misses in real time? Yeah, he originally thought he was just MC, idiot. Yeah, and then he had to come out, and everybody was like, I hate this guy. Yeah.

I hate this. I'm sick of this math guy. I'm sick and tired of it. Or do you think he was loved the entire time? I feel like math, like with the musician comparison, musicians release a bunch. I feel like math, especially math guys like Einstein, like, I think his whole life was damn your three things. Oh, you think he equals MC squared?

Took up a lot of time. You think he kind of disappeared into the world of math. And then he came back with, I have a new one. You think that's how it works? And it takes like five years. So like it's five years of doing one. And then it's probably a year of like, I need to get back to. Did he send smoke up like a pope, you know?

Like, hey, shit, Einstein's got another one. Maybe. It's more like Adele. You're speaking of musicians. Yeah, you're right. Doppers only. A few years and just boom. And maybe smoke, too, because I think she actually did somehow.

She loved ripping a good dog. Yeah, Einstein did the big 10-minute naps. He never slept for, like, hours at a time. He did the nap thing. I got Algoed into listening to a sleep expert. Okay. Are you a whoop band? How do you know what's good for everybody, I guess, in this entire thing?

He said what he tells people who don't have a, lot of time. Chug a coffee. Take a 25 minute nap. Wake up. You're back to life. You chug the coffee. You chug the coffee. Turn yourself off. Yeah. Put you to sleep nice and warm. Yeah. Well, he said I sit down. Actually, said chucking faster. Nick Rose been doing this for a decade. But how do you just turn the lights off on yourself? I almost want to comment underneath like, okay, chucked coffee. And then do I just tell myself to go to sleep right now? Like that's always been my argument. We would be out day drinking and Nick would come, we'd take a break and he'd chug a coffee.

say like, all right, I'm going to take a 25-minute nap. I'm like, how does that happen? So it's actually called a nappuccino. It acts as a high-efficiency power-up where caffeine kicks in just as you wake from a 20-minute nap, reducing groginess in maximizing alertness. I'll tell you what, I'll take two napuccinos tomorrow, and I'll take a couple of napuccino the next day. Do you know somebody who maybe took a napuccino or two in the process of building a Goliath in the sports and entertainment world? A man who had a. vision for a gimmick baseball team when I assume a lot of people were not believers. Yeah.

Just had thoughts of something that could become a 102,003,000 ticket seller down in Texas on a regular basis. Ladies and gentlemen, the founder of the Savannah Bananas who just had a massive weekend at Texas A&M, 100 some thousand tickets on gimmick baseball. Unbelievable. It is truly preposterous. Yes, it is. What has been accomplished, ladies and gentlemen, yellow talks Jesse, Jesse Cole. What's up, guys?

Okay, so can you please tell me how you go from, if the story is right, I try to Google as much information as I possibly could, so I'm kind of being held hostage by whatever they decided to show me about your story. But I did read, in debt over a million bucks, 1.7 million. You sell your house, you and your wife sleeping on a mattress on a floor, basically, with your visions of what this could all be. How many years ago was that? And do you have the visions at that point of selling out Texas A&M 100 and some thousand tickets for a gimmick baseball? Like, how big did your dream and believe in where you're at now? How can you describe it? Well, at first, our goal was just to make baseball fun.

We were a college summer baseball team when we started. And we only sold, you know, two tickets in our first three months. So that's when we had to sell our house, empty out our savings account, sleeping on an airbed. But yeah, we believe we can make the game fun, more entertainment, more excitement, and make the game faster. And so, yeah, we, I mean, when we start with the bananas, we had a male cheerleading team, the mananas, the dad-bod cheerleading squad, the banana nana, senior citizen dance team. But more than the players were all in on celebrating, dancing, and having fun. And after a few years, you know, we were selling out games, but fans were still leaving games early. And that's when we said we have to change the rules and create a new game.

And back in 2020, we played our first ever banana ball game, you know, with a two-hour time limit. You win the inning, you get a point. No bunting because bunting sucks. If you bunch are thrown out of the game, fans catching foul balls for an out, we've added all these new rules and just took it on the road with a bigger dream then, but went from one city world tour to now playing in front of 3.4 million fans this year and 102,000 on Saturday. Jeez, congratulations on it all. Obviously having the fortitude to continue to go forward whenever everything is seemingly against you. And to believe in yourself is obviously a great story for future generations to listen to and experience. So you're a content-driven company,

would you describe yourself? How do you describe you? Are you a live event company? Are you a content-driven company? And who do you find are most interested? Because I think you and the dude, perfect crossover seems like a perfect demo match and also a massive home run, not only in Texas A&M, but probably anywhere you go, right? That's very similar markets. Yeah, we're a live entertainment company. We obsess over the fan experience. So fans start showing up at 2 o'clock for a 7 o'clock game. There were 40,000 people in the plaza four hours before the game. So we do a show from 2 o'clock. The fans are out there meeting fans at 2 o'clock, live show in front,

live show afterwards. We signed to the last fan. We are obsessed. But yeah, it's really the sport of banana ball. You know, people have compared us to the Globetrotters, but the sport of banana ball is what we're most proud of. There are six teams competing to go to the Banana Bowl championship. And it's unbelievably competitive.

I mean, we had 23 trick plays on Saturday night, six home runs. They're trying to compete and win every show. But we're also trying to play. put on, you know, a lot of entertainment nonstop. The Texas tailgators ran into it with Reese, who's the football stadium home run king, I'll have you know. I think, I don't know if you saw the other day. I caught one of your guys' games on ESPN, too.

Congratulations on getting your shit licensed on ESPN for even bigger appeal, not just digitally, but also linear reach. I mean, you're doing fantastic. We will follow along and watch your next business move as you continue to go all in in this particular sphere, by the way. so I appreciate you doing what you're doing there. But football stadiums, how do you pick and choose where you're headed?

Because Texas A&M, Kyle Field, obviously historic, legendary place for college ball, fills up for you. Do you feel like you fill up anywhere? Or like what are the best places for Savannah? Because you came here, Indianapolis, filled up immediately. I think you sold out three times if you needed to. Are you everywhere right now, or how do you kind of view

where you're selling these places? Yeah, we're in 45 states, 75 stadiums. single team has sold out. We have 4.2 million people on the wait list. And yeah, with football stadiums, you know, we started with Clemson last year and the first college in the stadium and sold 81,000 tickets in the environment with Davosweeney and C.J. Spiller coming back and just, the atmosphere was electric. Like, we got to do these college football stadiums. And then, you know, also with the NFL, we did the Superdome and Drew Breeze came in and just there's these great moments that we can create in a competitive environment. So yeah, we've heard from numerous stadiums over

100,000. We still got, we got Neeland Stadium University of Tennessee. in three weeks. There's going to be 100,000. That's completely sold out. Boise State for the party animals. Headliner and the blue field, that's going to be a lot of fun. University of Oregon. So just you mix these worlds. College football is known for the atmosphere. Pat, you know this better than anyone. But now you put in our show with nonstop music and performances plus trick plays, backflip catches. It's a great marriage and we're having fun at these college football stadiums. It's a beautiful thing. Obviously, if people are getting introduced to sports in this manner, we love it. If they're just enjoying sports in this manner, we love it. I appreciate the fact that you

one out there and did it. Now, in your business story, there's probably a climax moment or two. Go ahead, Deb. Yeah, Jess, you're talking about feeling stadiums, you know, 100,000 plus now. When was the moment, if you can go back a little bit, when you really knew like, okay, we've arrived. When was that moment? What was the venue? Kind of what was the year? Well, if you knew me in our organization, we've never arrived, you know, we're just getting started. And that's the mindset. And I believe that. We're going to take this all over the world. People think it's just a circus, just a show. These guys can play and do things that people have never done before in a baseball field. So I still haven't felt that. But for me, growing up south of Boston,

always a dream to play at Fenway Park, play professionally. We went to Fenway Park and sold that out and watched the whole stadium turn yellow. That was pretty special. But now, you know, every night, as big as this game was, guys, we did a pop-up game on Thursday in front of only 1,000 fans. And we didn't tell anybody. We went to a high school and surprised fans and created moments that people never seen. Like, I love creating those fans' first moments that people have never experienced. That's where this all comes into play. Where can we play decks? You never know. I'm excited. be on a beach.

I'm excited for your promotional brain to continue to do absurd things. I just want to let you know that. I am excited to see what you come up with, brother. There's a few of them in history. Big time promoters. Obviously, you are a promoter. That is what you are. With baseball being kind of your venue and how you do this, you're hitting on all cylinders,

we got Stilts guy home run. Daisy Duke pitcher with cowboy boots, obviously awesome. The ninja umpire, the dancing um, all this shit. And I don't know what your brainstorming room is like. I don't know how you come about getting your ideas or whatever, but that in of itself is probably its own show that I would like to watch, brother. I'd like to see your process and coming up with all this shit. And then how you think it's going to go over versus how it actually goes over

and adjusting on the fly and all of it. I really respect what you got going on. Thank you. My question for you is, I mean, again, we're always trying to do things that have never happened before in sports. Where do you think we should play? Where would be somewhere crazy or something wild or something we should do? That would shock people. That's a good one.

That's a good one. The moon. The moon, yes. That's what we've talked about for a few years. That's going to take a few years. Okay, so. I mean, Times Square would be cool.

Times Square would be sick. You can run it out. We learned that with boxing. They don't care about dimensions, which is cool. Like, obviously, these football fields are. Lucas Oil Stadium would show up for you. Big time. Oh, that'd be wild.

If you did Lucaso. Central Park, New York City, that'd be interesting. That would be sweet. Yeah. So we're thinking of large patches of grass. I just saw Shakira did 2 million on a beach. So you mentioned a beach. So you mentioned the beach, that'd be.

The beach. Well, it'd be tough for the banana boys, though, to run on the sand. Yeah. You know, especially the boot scooter. You know, he's going to be in a little bit of trouble out there. We'd send the coconuts. So that's our newest team, the coconuts. They'd be all over the beach.

How many teams you got total? We got six teams, yeah, in the league, the NBA Championship League. Go Clowns! Yeah, the Indianapolis clowns, obviously coming in a big way. How do you feel about the cosmic baseball that's happening as well? Hey, anything that can make the game fun, man. We're supportive of it.

I mean, we're just trying to bring more people out. And, you know, they're doing a great job. And I think we all win. And it's an abundance mindset. And the more people that are bringing out kids and families to have fun, that's a win, man. Love it. As baseball continues to go and your league continues to produce great baseball. It only works if there's good baseball players.

Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jesse, you talked about how good the players actually are. One of the cool stories earlier in the season, Tristan Peters used to play for the Savannah Bananas, is now playing on the White Sox. I believe he's hitting like 284 for the White Sox. So, like, I think a lot of people think that it's like not actually talented baseball players, but they are, right? They're some of the best baseball players in the world, correct? Well, yeah, look at Jackie Bradley Jr., World Series Champion All-Star, Full-time

Player with the Clowns. He had for the cycle the other night. We got guys, you know, first-round picks, second-round picks. They can play, and now they're just learning how to do unbelievable trick plays and performances and putting it together. And that's why, man, it's so great, you know, we created this a bunch of us, but I get to sit back and and be a fan and watch things every night and just be like, I can't believe that just happened. And that's what's exciting about it. Nothing surprises. I mean, we get surprised. surprised every single night and that's what's crazy live events obviously a j has the last question for you here jesse yeah jesse i'm curious like when you're acquiring new talent i guess first of all what's the

process like trying to find guys that are very talented baseball players but also like entertainers and big personalities and do you set expectations when they sign because i'm thinking like hey we have a pop-up show on thursday i thought i'm just here playing kyle field i don't want to i'm tired i don't want to go over play a game for a thousand people how do you deal with those kind of things no well we're fortunate when you join us you know what it's about it's about fans first you know the reason we're here the reason we get to play in front of record-breaking crowds is because we put the fans first and we're the first one signing autographs and meeting them and we're on all the time.

But yeah, it was hard. At first guys, no one wanted to play for us. I mean, it was impossible. But now, you know, we have thousands of guys, thousands of players that are reaching out. And it's amazing to see because they know they have to be fans first. They know we have to perform. But, I mean, we're getting like Derek Clenna, Broadway,

one of the best Broadway performers ever. He played college ball at UCLA back with Garrett Cole, Trevor Bauer. And so now he's bringing that world together. So when you can mix the world, of entertainment and sports together. Man, it's fun to watch. I'm trying to start, I'm trying to start being accurate with throwing. Yeah.

I'm trying. We're ready for you in Indy, man. You put on a show. Well, yeah, I would like the show to be one that doesn't look ass. I've seen it. You know, we saw Tino. Yeah, Tino Martinez. That was awesome.

That's not good. I don't want that. That was cool. Saw Russell Wilson get gunned out after a guy goes in between the legs. Drew Brees. These guys are throwing 93 miles an hour. 94 miles an hour. It's not easy.

That's what I'm saying. I need to press. What the, Breeze got screwed too. Backflip? Was that the backflip catch? Which one was the backflip catch? We don't need that.

Who did that up? Yeah, they'll make you look bad with the trick play. That's pretty that's what they do. They'll moss the shit out of you. Everybody, you know, because you get a little people older than what maybe your demo is.

Because I assume your demo is what it is, right? We all see what it is. And then they're parents, and they love it. I think these people really enjoy their lives whenever they're watching Savannah, banana, baseball and everything like that. So you've got some people that are like, I hate it. It's corny or whatever.

It's like, I'm baseball. This is bad for baseball. It's like, all right, go out there. You got a pitcher out there actually they're actually cooking while also doing a fool. And then step it on the mound 100%. 88 or whatever.

It's like how these guys, unbelievable baseball. I don't know there's this much talent in the baseball world. I enjoy what you're doing. I appreciate what you're doing. And keep trailblazing, brother. Can't wait to watch what you do next. I appreciate you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Jesse Cole.

Yay, Jesse. They're going to do docs and classes about him. Oh, yeah. Anybody that does the whole mattress gimmick, one point some million in debt, belief. Two tickets.

He has that. We sold two tickets the first season where there. It's like, yeah, that's part of the whole story. Three months. It's like seven bucks production. Yeah, I want to see that,

dog. What's that? That documentary, seven bucks as well, though. That's crazy. Yeah, you know, seven bucks all the storyline. Two tickets is another one. Fans first.

Seven bucks, throw up. Yeah, I only had $7. Yeah, we saw the show. Seven bucks in mono, baby. That's right. We're going to have a goat

joining us here in a matter of moments. I believe there is some technical difficulties happening behind the scenes there. That tends to happen. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a Olympic gold medalist. In 18-time, L-PGA champion,

a three-time major winner. Fresh off a back-to-backs, ladies and gentlemen, Nellie Korda. Yay! Hey! How are you, Nellie? Hi. How are you? Thanks for having me.

Thank you for joining us. Anytime we get a chance to chitchat with goats of their sport, which you certainly are on the trajectory of being, and you can be humble and modest if you want to, but we will speak the truth for you. We are lucky and thankful to do so, especially coming off of back-to-backs. How are we feeling?

We're swinging well right now. Hey, we're hitting the ball well right now, Nellie. Is that where we're feeling? My who says I'm in the red, So I'm feeling great today. Oh, celebration. Okay, we got after it a little bit last year. I did just end in Mexico, so I may have had a shot of tequila and a margarita.

Why? Why? Maybe a little corona. Why? Yeah, I read your answer where I believe it was reported that you were the only top 10 player that was in Mexico, fresh off of a major, the Chevron championship, which was your third major win a week before. and you said something about like the resort's beautiful, the food is amazing, the course, wonderful. My fiance and I just came down here, lived our life.

You win that tournament, okay? So let's talk about you winning a major one week and then you enjoying life winning. Are you, now, you're obviously a stone cold killer in this entire thing, but do you feel as if you're playing your best golf right now? And what is it about your game that you can feel is really on whenever you're playing your best? Honestly, I just feel like I'm living my best life. I think that correlates to maybe my on-course play. You know, it's, it is funny, like, going from a major to a tournament the next week. Like, Mexico, I think, was the best transition because Monday, I sat by the pool.

Oh, yeah. Coconut, like, it was, I was literally living my best life, but I had to, like, remind myself on Tuesday. I'm like, I'm here to work. I need to get my butt into gear. but I think I'm just kind of like I've said it many times I'm like I'm living my best life like I'm having so much fun on the golf course but I think it came because last year was a really hard year for me I didn't win at all I came off of a year that I won seven times and I think I'm just maturing and like realizing that I need to really enjoy these moments that it's not going to last forever so in a way that so many legends I've told me to smell the roses. And this week, I actually have time to smell the roses. Okay, well, congratulations on getting to that point in your mind.

I know that's a freeing feeling, I would assume, especially for the top of the top whenever it comes to competitive spirit. You talked about having a bad season following having a good season. You said living your life and enjoying it is a big piece of the recovery. I assume you're beating yourself down pretty good last year. And how do you kind of work your way out of that, actually? Because we talked to Michaela Schifrin, who had a bad Olympics bouncing back on the other side. obviously every NFL guy has had a terrible season and had to bounce back for you what was it like going through that journey and is just the first time because all we've known of you is like being dominant is just like the first time that you really had to kind of journey through those waters of maybe doubt or change or anything like that definitely not I mean every season has a different story you know I won my first major in 2021 I won the Olympics that year and then I didn't

really have, I didn't really back it up until 2024 again. So I always have, I think it's always just a roller coaster, sports. I mean, they humble you in every possible way. And for me, what's important, I feel like a lot of athletes, what I've seen is that they try to reinvent the wheel. Like, they try and do something different. They try to change everything just because it's not working. And I stayed with the same people on my team. I have the same caddy. I have the same physio like no matter what happened like the same people were riding it out with me and that like gave me a sense of comfort that okay I can definitely get through this like we're all in this together and that no matter what like I've seen so many athletes bounce back and just it doesn't mean that I can't do it

like I can do it as well so I think I just was more of like trying to have a mindset change where it's like I get into a situation that I'm like okay I'm screwed here where I'm back to the past, I'd be like, oh, God, here we go again. Like, I'm in a divot. I left myself the worst possible spot. And now I'm like, I'll figure it out. Like, it's not the end. It's not the end of the world. I'm not just going to pick up my stuff and walk off the golf course.

Like, I'll figure it out. I'll move on. And my dad always said growing up, he's like, just play golf. Like, you find the ball, you hit it again. You find the ball, you hit it again. Things are nice whenever it's simple. You know, it would be nice to have your, swing too. Your swing is unbelievable. We obviously having you on the program today has forced us all

to learn more about you, which we should have done years ago. We'd like to let you know that. You turn pro at 17, 27 now. Life is a pro for basically a majority of your, you know, adult life now at this point. It's like you're a legend, but what we did quickly learn is all the slow-mo shots of your swing. Outrageous. Okay, I have a daughter. Mackenzie, she turned three today. She's turned three. Happy birthday. I would tell her you said that. She will look up to you, Nelly. Hopefully we will have a golf swing that we can potentially work on.

When did you start? And are you ever changing your swing? Have you had the same swing your whole life? Oh, my gosh. If you guys look at my swing from like 2013, you would be like, oh, that is so gross. I give like a big shout out to my coach, David Wheelan. like he is the one that built my swing. And also my dad and my parents, like they spent so many hours with me just working on tempo.

Like that is the one thing that they ingrained in my brain. And my dad always referred to as like coca, cola. Coca Cola. So that was like the key. It was super simple, but it was like the key to having a very fluid speed. But there's been so many times. I mean, like I see all the smallest of pieces in my swing. I see it if it's laid off or if I'm a little bent over or if I'm a little too tall.

But I always revert back to the same tendencies. I think so many golfers, athletes will tell you, especially because golf is so technical that you always revert back to your old tendencies. And like right now what I'm working on, I think the biggest thing that I changed from last year actually is I have higher shoes. So I'm trying to actually get closer to the ground with my chest. And with that being, I actually get a little bit deeper in my swing, and I hinge it a little faster. So it's just, it's literally like the smallest of things.

But, yeah, I mean, golfers are crazy. I'm crazy just to, you know. I think you have to be. I'll tell you what, I'm crazy, and my swing is what we like to classify as ass. So I'm trying to learn anything I possibly can. All I know, I was invited down to the master's first time ever. It was beautiful. There was an event where there was a golf coach at it from Iowa.

and he put me through a couple drills. He was going to make me a scratch golfer, and every drill was basically look like Nelly looks. That's what I realized from, put your head on a brick wall, don't move it. Okay, don't move to brick wall. Let's go ahead and forward, lean in that entire thing. Go ahead and load up on your back foot.

You should be able to lift your left foot, but you shouldn't do that obviously. Get into the slot, you turn that. You have the perfect swing. I just want to let you know that. That's fantastic. It'd be really cool to have that for my daughter.

And what I'm hearing you say is, you always go back to your tendencies. Her first time learning, we've got to get a good one. Yeah, yeah. We got to get a good dog. We got to get a good base. We got to get a good base.

Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola. Yeah, exactly. Coca-Cola. Never forget. I mean, you've had a couple of weeks to work on it since the master's. Like, what's your swing update? Is it working?

Yeah, what's it look like? Where's the club? He still come out of pocket. No. No, I want to let you know. I have not played a single time since. But if I was to get out there, I think I'm getting that thing. I want to do this, Nellie.

Nobody wants me to do it. I want to go here, here, here, here, here. Right to there. That's what I want to do. Get it right into a spot. I mean, there have, there has been players that have paused at the top. I mean, you look at Dr. Hovlin. He's, like, had, like, a pause at the top.

Cam Young. Cam Young, is he good? I don't know. He stops that thing right here. He doesn't put it directly in front of his forehead before he takes it back. Well, it doesn't matter how I get there. That's what you get there. You get there.

It kind of does, though. That's kind of what she's saying. It does. Swing your swing. Swing your swing. Boom. I happen, Nellie. I need a new one.

I need to build a brand new. Boom. So as long as I get there, I think that's all that really matters. Because I'm going to be honest, Nelly, I don't think I'm ever going to get your swing. I don't think that's ever going to happen. Hopefully.

I have been working on it since I was two years old. Two. My daughter's late. Oh my God. We've got to get her to work asap. Speaking of, I need to be a better dad. Go ahead, Dee Buzz.

Speaking of you started to this research saw both of your parents are professional tennis players. your sister is a golfer as well. How did you get to golf and not tennis, especially starting at early? I was actually really that annoying little sister that wanted to do everything big sister did. Yeah, I think I just fell in love with it because it was a sport that all of us could do together. You know, tennis is just so one-on-one. And I think with golf also, people may not realize it, but it doesn't matter how good or bad you are.

Like you guys can all go on the golf course and share the range together, go out on the golf, go out on the golf course and play around. And it doesn't matter. Like, you know, how many pro-imes I've played. And they've been like, oh, this is my first time holding a club. And I'm like, well, this is great. Like, let's have a day. And I don't know. I just, I think I correlate the two, like, family time and golf.

And that's like one of the things that drove my love for the game early on. And then I love competing. Like, I love going head to head. But my brother. which, by the way, he's a huge fan of your guys' show. He was so pumped of going on. He's a player, and he played hockey

growing up. He thought golf was just so boring, and then now he is a professional tennis player. Yeah, thanks for leaving them out, Dee Buck. God likes program. Shouts to Porta family. We continue with a goat. Sorry, bro. The shout out. Yeah, please do. Love you, bro. We love you, dude. We continue

digitally as Sports Center picks up here on ESPN. That's Nelly Cordo. We appreciate you all. Goodbye. Okay, we're still live, Nellie. Great wave. Good touch. Good touch at the end there. That was a good touch. That's very... The golf wave.

I didn't mean to leave Sebastian out either, but it was... It was sea bass. We love sea bass over here, all right? Yes, we certainly do. We love the way he checks the watch. Checks the watch. We love everything about that, obviously. You talked about playing with amateurs.

You did something that's a complete opposite of that, I do believe. Go ahead, Tone. You also talked about swinging your swing and being competitive. I watched a couple weeks ago. You and Scotty Sheffler hitting draws into. agree. How cool was it to play with Scotty? And like when you get in those situations with obviously the two world number ones, are you guys sharing swing thoughts or your swings are so different that you're not? And then being competitive, if you two are playing together, who's getting

strokes? You know, we do these tailor-made super shoes at the end of the year. And like, that's when we all get together. And it's just so much fun, especially like after the years that Scotty has had. And it's so cool to see always on my sheet that I get to do a video shoot with Scotty. And I think that for sure, like, we're very competitive, but it's also like super lighthearted during the shoots. And to see like the way that he thinks about golf, it's really unique how every single player thinks about their shots

and the way that they execute. Like I did one with Tommy Fleetwood. And I love Tommy Fleetwood. Like he is by far like my favorite golfer. of all time. I just love his personality and his swing. And then I like do something with Scotty. And I just see like how much he works the ball. And I'm just like, you're such a talent. And for me, I try to simplify the game as much as possible. And I definitely think that like every golfer is a complete nut. But those times that we all get together and we kind of share our own thoughts about like

how we want to execute the shots. And then we're like, oh my gosh, like, we're all. like mad scientists in a way. Yeah, we're just talking about Einstein and Oppenheimer. Yeah, we're big on the scientists, but you would have to be because everything is what, like a 15th of a centimeter is potentially a total cleats. A complete loss. What's that? Tallar shoes.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they made some different cleats for me, a little different soul all of a sudden. Oh. Oh, I got to bend over, I guess now. The nice shoes to walk in, I assume. I assume they're very nice to walk in. I don't know how you. Right.

My feet are very happy. But yeah, it's like all about you like mishit it by a, centimeter and this thing goes way right career over it's just about like centimeters in golf but it's so like my i would talk to my dad so many times and like he played he played he played tennis and he would feel a gram in his racket a gram i mean that's like a dollar that's a dollar bill so everyone every athlete just has they all have their own words yeah absolutely whenever you are a master of your sport you're going to know it inside and out you certainly are that i don't know so you're 27, you started at two, that's 25 years.

Okay, I just turned 39. Let's assume I start next year. So when I turn 65, there you go. I don't know, I think your swing speed's going to just decline, though. No, science. Nellie, you don't know about this because you're still competing. We've got science. That swing speed might go up, to be honest.

You know, there's certainly going to be a collapse, a big cliff coming, but I think that thing can only go up. And then I'll start playing smarter golf. I saw your average, 283. Is that right off the T-box, 283-ish? Yeah, but I honestly never hit my shots 100%. One, I think my back would break. And two, I feel like there's way more control

when you don't try to smash every single ball. Like, I don't not want to swing out of my shoes ever. And I think that's what I see with a lot of amateurs is like, they get that driver in their hands and they're like, okay, like I'm going to grip and rip right now. Yeah. AJ. Yeah, that is what we're doing, Nellie.

How many times? I get a chance to do this. I don't know. How many golf balls do you lose around? That, see, why are we bringing that out of? How about how many things, how many times I get to actually swing out of my shoes? And it actually count. I'm at least a two-sleeved guy, though.

Yeah, but you're not going to get me through a full 18. Yeah, right. I'm out at 12, 13 holes. I got to go. We go. It's so long. And then the walking? Jeez.

I did that a couple times out at the American Century in Tahoe. bruised all my toes blisters everywhere exhausted so sore I'm like fuck all this my swing sucks I'm not good I'm getting embarrassed in front of people

and my entire body hurts from walking a mountain I feel like a dips shit John Daley used to walk these things Patrick Reed stomping through these and I'm out here dying it was just a bad experience I retired from the game

two years Nellie I put the sticks down I retired I quit but now you have a new swing thought so you're making a comeback Yep. Coca-Cola. That's right. And Coca-Cola.

Yeah. Which is the superior. Yeah. If we were to do it. Would you say golfers are athletes? Yeah. Yes. Definitely.

Perfect. We're selling it here. Hold on. What happens? So that happens? You get said you're not, if people say you're not an athlete? I mean,

I mean, that's kind of like, you know, the what they always say is like golf is like the retirement sport, right? But pick a ball came in. I go that and plays, like they walk four days, 18 holes. And it's not just that. We're walking Monday through Wednesday also. Like we're in the gym. We're working hard.

We're practicing. And like people actually experience that for the week and they're dead. And we do that like weeks in a row. So I've always heard that. And I love that we're settling it here. Yeah, absolutely. We'll be the authority on that. I'm sure people would take us seriously.

I'm sure that's the right. We're the right people to do that. People don't even think I'm an athlete, you know, and I'm not in the grand scheme of things. You are definitely golfers higher up in the athlete community than a punter in the NFL. Definitely. So yeah, I would love to say you guys super athletes if I had to say anything. Perfect.

I mean, that's just. How are you with ball sport? Can you throw? Do you throw catch? Yeah, I throw. I throw. I throw. Yeah, I've actually just become a big Packers fan.

So I've just gotten into football. I have my cheesehead right here. Wow. How come you just got into this? This is brand new. You're a Packers fan. They're going to love to hear this. Ty is going to love to hear this.

Yeah. So my fiance, he's a huge Packers fan. and I'm kind of marrying into it, and I've fully sent into it. I love it. Been out to Lambeau Field. I think it's the greatest place in the world. I've been on the field. Like, so cool.

I love watching other sports, and I think the atmosphere there was super, super cool. Hey, listen, they're going to love to hear that. And the NFL as a whole, I don't want to speak for everybody, but we're pumped. A goat is coming into our community. Go ahead and brace the hell out of it. Now, they're going to be showing you a lot. You know that?

You start poking. your head at those games. The NFL is certainly going to get to most. Well, and there is Nellie Corder, by the way, the greatest of all the time. Whenever it comes to the LPGA, she is a massive fan. So I can't wait to watch your rise in the NFL pop culture world. We're appreciative of you joining us here. AJ has a question for you, actually, Nully. Yeah, no, you mentioned how amateurs will, you know, swing out of their shoes. I guess I've seen you give some swing tips to, you know, maybe scrubby, terrible players like myself and Pat sometimes. But what, I guess, what are some of the most common mistakes that you see where I know

you get paired up in pro ams all the time. And so you've seen all the range of golfers. Like what are the most common things that bad golfers like us do? Well, there's a few. How long we got? We got some time. I would say, I would say the first mistake that I see is like on the range, right? You're warming up to go play.

Like, if you don't know where you're aiming on the range, there's no way that you know where you're aiming for it. Like, how do you know where you're, where the ball? What if you skip the range? Yeah. Well, then that's your number one problem. How many swings do I have? How many hours you want me at this place?

The round itself. You go out there. It just takes 10 minutes. That's it. 10 minutes before your team. You kind of, we call that calibration. Those are like calibration drills. Your eyes change every single day.

And having that stick down on the ground and going from ball to flag and knowing like that your mind is and your eyes are calibrating, that's really important. So first step, always have. a stick on the range to I mean they're you know working on your short game your puts your chips around the greens I mean that's so much fun for other people to do and at the end of the day I would say yes it's so easy to compare your swing to like the perfect swing of like Adam Scott or a lot of people compare their swing to mine but at the end of the day like swing your own swing like find the ball hit it again find the ball hit it again and then once you start to get hooked on the game.

Then you can kind of dissect like, okay, where should I get better? Maybe I should go get a lesson. But if you're not inclined to go get a lesson, like my first tip is always learn how to aim. Learn smart. Well, it sounds like we got to get on the goddamn

range too. Two minutes. I'm aiming too. On Sunday of last week, I or yesterday, I was starting to aim so far right. And that's one of my tendencies is like my head starts to tilt a little back at a dress and I start to kind of aim a little bit more right and then I just start to swing a draw a little too much let's say for the

people that are asking out there not me okay the people that are out there what am I aiming my shoulders my feet what the hell like the feet is where I'm trying to is that what I'm doing I'm doing feet but everything has to be in line your feet have to be in line with your knees your knees have to be in with your hips your hips have to be in shoulder shoulders knees and toes knees and you guys and i scald the ball it goes right so i'm just telling you guys you know if you're picking up golf you're going to be crazy and just get used to it i love that well it sounds like the craziness is certainly working for you and uh we're incredibly pumped that we get a chance to watch this career continue to go we all know miss patty burrick

okay 1937 1958 legend yeah pb yeah yeah patty berg now she could spin it yeah i got 15 majors you all the time in the world to go chase we can't wait to watch it all congrats to you getting back on top uh the lpGA and also just seemingly golf and life as a whole cheers to you nellie thank you for joining us thank you guys i really appreciate it okay how much season do you have left Um, until November. Holy shit. Yeah, long. Okay, will you join us again through the season here?

Hopefully, if you guys have me back. Well, we got golf season happening. The weather's getting warm. Yeah, this swing might be coming together here. I got some selfish questions, Dax. Do you have what? Um, so I'm a little past that point of like, you know, the, I can hit the ball. I can figure it.

I can score below now. I'm hooked, you know, three years ago I started playing. One of your swings was one of the swings I watched. obviously. I'm trying to break 80 though. So what's the tips? I know most people come out, hey, let me just get a couple more birdies, but what is your advice to breaking 80 for the

first time? Never done it. My, well, one, do you have a stick on the range? I don't. You don't have the lineman sticks? I have it, but I don't use it. That's tip number. Wake up. You got to aim, bro. Wake up. You not up and listening. Shut up.

Now we're talking. Learn how to aim, but I'm fucking missing the whole range. Can you continue, Nellie? Two, too. Like, do you go out and actually, like, work on any part of your game? Like, okay, like, let's say just go out and put four T's around the cup at four feet and, like, try to make eight in a row, like, go around. Like, these are, like, the smallest of things that will actually really improve your game. Like, go out and chip a little bit.

Like, do drills. Like, it's a lot of fun to actually do drills. I like won't leave a spot until I've completed a really hard drill. But I would say like one, making sure that you know how to aim. Two, not swinging out of your shoes. Learning how to like control your swing speed. Like, okay, if I want to hit an 80 yard shot, I can hit it with two clubs. I can hit it with a 54 degree and I can hit it with a 58 degree because I'm starting

to control my swing speed. So it's like, it's like things like that that like really set apart, I think, like really good golfers to like beginners where they're like, okay, ball, I'm just trying to hit it really hard. Like then you're like, okay, I'm learning how to start my ball on the right target to make four foot puts. Like it's just like the smallest of things that will actually add up and then. I'm worried.

I'm worried. I'm worried. Thank you. I'm never going to do any of that. I got a bad feeling. I need to get the bug to start making four-for-puts. Right here. We got it right here. Please send it my way.

Yeah. Well, I couldn't imagine the amount of time you've spent on the practice range, practice greens, all those things throughout your entire life. You started when you were two years old. Crazy. Yeah. Can you send a... I'm not going to do that.

My skin has no chance, guys. When I'm like 40 and 50, my skin is going to be a little. looking like 70 with how much time I've spent out of this. Yeah, but do you get a sweet... Like stew sink? Yeah, did you see Stuart Sinks? Did you see his sun tan? Oh, the sand line?

Oh, sorry, Seth Saka. Sorry, sir, the most recent one. It is, boom. Bang. No, I'm, like, applying sunscreen religiously. I do have, like, a really bad wip tan. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Careful of sunscreen. I came back from Mexico like I'm definitely my hand is a different color to compare to the rest of my body the golf tan lines are spectacular yeah the socks the socks on the

permanent socks yeah I get those all the time like oh you didn't take your socks off at the beach funny no I'm a professional fucking golfer I'm like shut off could you imagine if that's how you responded should be so sick oh sweet tan lines well did you bury your feet at the beach no actually just won my third major and back to back in Mexico

So, yep. Yeah, I don't think I could do that. I'm just like, yeah, you know, I just own the, own the different tans. All right. Well, we'll do it for you. We'll do it for you. Until Wednesday season, conclude? A week before Thanksgiving.

All right, let's go. Let's win this thing. We're going on the ride. We're going on the ride. Oh, yeah. You've had six straight top two finishes, I do believe. Let's go. Let's see.

We're going to ride alongside. We're so thankful that you joined us. and good luck the rest of the way. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for having me. Just think about it. With your leg on.

Oh, you need to do Coca-Cola. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're trying to grip and rip. Yep. Trying to do Pepsi! No. Coca-Cola, nice and smooth. Yeah, nice and smooth, baby.

Yeah, of course. All right, you're the best, ladies of gentlemen, Nelly, Cora. Yeah, Lily. Yeah. Soth. We're just watching clips earlier today. Yeah, right. Just the smoothest of all the time. How you doing, keep it moving? I assume people do ask her about her swing all the time because how nice it is.

We probably just did the most stereotypical golf conversation she's ever had every time she's had to have a conversation. And I'll tell you what? Awesome human for it all. She's a beast over there, D. Butch. Yeah, so smooth. I love her game and she got some good tips. Aim. That's important. Learn out of aim. Because I do, that is suck when you hit the ball. You compress the shit out of the ball, but you pull it. It's like, oh, I was aimed that way.

So aiming the drills. And then not swinging 100%. She says she never swings. I mean, just not 100%. Time. I assume that's probably the same for most golfers. Not Scotty. Scotty.

Scott fell out of the tee box. That's what's so frustrating is because, like, she says that. I feel like everything she just said is correct. But then Scottie Shevler is the number one golfer in the world for the men is swinging out of his shoes, Every single time I'm watching him golf. It's like it's crazy, but that's the whole swing or swing thing. Yeah, swing or swing or swing.

Scott Schaeffert told me to do the same thing. It seems like the number one golfers in the world. I will not miss an opportunity to ask him what I need to be doing. Same. Both of them say swing or swing. It's like, my swing is ass. Can you, can you give me a little something else to help me out? Just find it.

You'll find it. It's like these two are weapons. Golf's in a great place. Fantastic watch this weekend. How about the Kentucky Derby? So fun. Really cool. 19.6 million viewers.

Average, obviously, is that particular number. Huge, huge show. Congrats to NBC continuing to just crush everything. In the race itself, obviously a lot of lead up, a lot of shenanigans, a lot of tomfoolery, a lot of quizzing, a lot of men jolups, a lot of scenes, a lot of interviews, a lot of pre-races. A lot of that shit built up to the Kentucky Derby, the most exciting two minutes in sports or whatever it was. It lived to the building. Golden Tempo put on a hell of a show up there.

The fact that it was golden tempo and renegade at the end was insane because you see where golden tempo comes from. And then did you see Renegade out of the gates? Obviously, he was on the rail. He was in the one slot. And the five horses to the right of him just came crashing down on him. So he had to pull back and then make an incredible run. There was a lot of really good runs out of these horses on Saturday. Yeah, the Rapoli thing with the Renegade horse, I thought was really cool.

Typically, I feel like I will watch the Kentucky Derby see a couple things, you know, immediately. after, but on social media, Rapoli talking to his, you know, jockey basically like, hey, if you're going to lose, it was going to be to your brother, which you mentioned earlier, which I didn't really even notice until I saw the Rapoli. And Rapoli said, family won today. Yeah. Hey, don't cry. You like smack to super Italian.

Hey. Yeah. Hey, listen, don't you cry today. If you're going to lose to anybody, you lose to your brother, family won today. Okay. It was like the most Italian reaction of all the time. And his horse ran a great race. I assume he's very proud of Renegade for the race that they're.

ran but golden tempo just coming flying from the back stealing the kentucky derby living here it is right here hey listen listen do we have sound for this fuck you brunt you're right man i'm fucking good man i'm fucking believe that's why you're the best line of the punch for you know the best man they're the fucking Hey, girl crying there, chase, you son of it. You're looking to your brother. All right? Jesus, Paul, you're gonna be space.

Hey, that was super tired of it right there. Family one, hey. Kissed on, kissed him right there on a cheek. Come here. You see the suit? Fucking proud of you. Hey, baby girl, they're crying. That's how proud with you.

boxes were awesome yeah absolutely like a lot of them even even the winners owners box was awesome but every like all the that owner's box I can't remember who it was for to the right of the awesily yeah oh which came in third I believe and then the winner is the left of them

but like they were all like it was awesome scenes yeah Kentucky Derby seemingly delivered on all fronts I'm gonna say it I'm gonna say it I'm okay just watching it from home I can't I got no doubt I got to go you never been booze on the ground Oh, yeah. I've been in here.

You've done it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've done it. First year out here. It was my birthday weekend. Obviously, kind of always falls on that. No, but I don't think I had played yet. I don't think I had played for the culture.

But I was out here for whatever workouts. Yeah, we went down there. What a time. What a fit. Four street left. Shorts, obviously, boat shoes, tucked in shirt, sunglasses, big hat. so much boozing in there. It was rainy, so it was all muddy.

I mean, it was exactly how you think. And then 4th Street Live, which is downtown Louisville, like, they get after it. I mean, it is, I mean, this guy would know. Yeah. You watched from home this week. Did you miss it? Did you get the itch to be down there in Louisville to Churchill grounds, hollow grounds, to watch Golden Tempo, kind of electrify the entire race?

Yeah, it was a fun race. It is, yeah, it's obviously very cool to go there. But it's like anything. like it's about the people you go with. So yeah, I always get to go and hang out with a bunch of old teammates. I don't see very often. So it's awesome getting back with them. But yeah, it's awesome.

But it is definitely like it's two. If you go, a lot of people go two full days. They'll go Friday like 9.30 a.m. till six or seven. And then Saturday do the same thing. So like you better strap in and watch some horse races. Yeah. You better strap in and just really kind of deal with the whole.

Because don't you get bust in and out too? Like it's hard to get into the area, I think. Right. Yeah. Everything's. Everything's tough getting in and out, but yeah, it's a process. Certainly worth it, though. Hell, yeah.

It's cool. What a different world. Yeah, very different world. We watch a man who comes from that world, who was scared to say that he actually eats from that world, hit a nine horse on Friday night while we were here having a nice little card night. This nine horse is all Bruce needed, and he had been calling it from the beginning. Didn't even see the nine on the graphic at the bottom because it was hidden behind one of

the ponies. Bruce, this is a nice little weekend for you in horse racing, I would say. The ponies delivered nicely for old Bruce Brown's bank account. Yeah, it was an awesome Kentucky Oaks for me. I hit the pick six there with the nine horse favorite. I believe it was Jose Ortiz on the ride there as well. But yeah, it was a great weekend, great Kentucky Derby. Congrats to Golden Tempo and all the connections.

Unbelievable ride. That final stretch run from last to first. It's like if you were making a horse racing movie, that's what you would want the final scene to be. Just an unbelievable ride from Ortiz to go up there and obviously catches his brother on Renegade. A ton was made about all the jockeys kind of switching horses. Irat Ortiz had his like sort of the pig of the litter between five horses. Every race that Golden Tempo has ran, he has been the jockey. And you can kind of see obviously that sort of that connection paying off.

not, it's not something that they're not used to, right? Coming from behind and getting all the way up there. Really cool to see it all pay off. Yeah, I enjoyed the race. I enjoyed learning the story. The, um, uh, so happy. Yeah, right? Yeah.

So happy with Mark Glad, the trainer. It's crazy that much like March madness, I find myself knowing nothing. Yeah. And then all of a sudden over like a two day period, I'm like massively invested in these things that I know very little about. And then all of a sudden I see myself. downloading a new app. Yeah.

And then trying to figure out all. Shouldn't have to put a bank account in again and do an entire thing again. It's like, wow, this is crazy how this all works out. But it does feel special. And then what's next? Preak nasty over there in Baltimore. Yes. Yeah, that is the next.

Hopefully Golden Tempo goes. Did the- What should say? Have they said? Because in the past guys have won the Derby and not even tried to win the triple crowd. Last year, right? They got to see how Golden Tempo comes out. So as long as he's, like, continue to eat, continuing eating his normal amount and is all sound,

I think that they're going to send Golden Tempo to the preigness, but no one else from the derby is going to go. Great White? We need to see Great White get another shot on the title. Great White might be there. Fresh legs. That's a big news. I don't know if we do. What?

What? Oh, my golden-over. How do you do that? Because it's an outlaw. Rattle all the other ponies before the race. Oh, sorry, that's great white football. Smart move. Okay?

It's also like the biggest horse in the world. This horse is so many hands. I obviously didn't know what a hand was last week, but that's one of the biggest horses I've ever seen. Yeah, I think Great White needs to make you the presence known. At least for the pre-race routine. It was the jockey's fault. Absolutely.

It was whispering shit in its ear. It was quite funny. Gray White's Irish trainer, they did like an interview with him. in the buildup. He was maybe the most confident trainer than they talked to. He was like, Great White. I mean, look at him.

He's huge. We got a good chance here. And then just, bam, that was a terrible Irish accent, but you get it. Ty Smith's not here. So obviously you were kind of put into a tough spot there.

He would have picked right up for you there as the Irish lad who was speaking about the Great White Horse who just moments before getting gated. Is that what that's called? You put it into the gate? Yeah, yeah. Every year I learn about this again.

I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot getting into the gate is a big song and dance. Like, this is a big to do. This is a big part of the race. Talk, actually. This is a massive piece of it. There's always some shenanigans seemingly as they're pushing the ass end of a horse into

something and then shutting it and then zooming out. Boom. And then the thing's fucking off and running. Are these things jacked up because of the amount of people? You think the great white saw the great lights and said, holy hell, this is going to be a great night and got all kind of worked up and said, you know what? Actually, I'm doing a backflip.

Maybe the jockey was holding them back. Maybe the great white wanted to do an entire backflip. and the jockey kind of slowed it down. He's not hurt, right? Not injured somehow? No, yeah, all good. Precautionary scratch there. Obviously took a pretty hard fall under the back.

The crowd is... Don't worry, they still will. Whoa! They said he's going home. Yeah, home. Home. To the farm. We know what that means.

Where all the dogs go. Yep. I hope that. Horse that big. They need to stud them anyway. Yes. Yeah, exactly. They got other ways to do that.

Bad news. boys. No. Great whites that preek nasty. When's this? A couple weeks? Yeah, a few weeks. I forget. Yeah, he'll be there. Backlashes this weekend. You paying attention or travel chiefs? Is he fighting? You talking? Or wrestling?

Or does he have a match? No. You're not paying attention in the backlash? No. When you're not for the rest of time. No, when you made your proclamation about the business, I joined in on that one. Me too. What was the problem? That if you, that if Randy lost never coming back. Yeah, but I was

talking about like oh no I'm just out forever oh just your eyes you decided as soon as they have someone worth watching I'll be back geez Cody Rhodes ready law hey he don't hold your breath brother still same gimmick I'm in hold your breath especially if goonther's around

he's back okay nope I hate go under he sucks no his ass it got stinks I put me night night so I can't say anything about it fine he is violent they're already going into the scene of puddle you know they're already in that desperate so What are you talking about?

Cena will be at backlash this. That's what he lives. He lives in table thing. I knew he was full of shit. He's been working on something. He sat right there, so I'm never coming back. Hmm. Yeah, kind of question to his integrity.

They go. We were right to. You guys got pissed at me every time I asked if he was coming back. You guys looked at me like I was a terrible person. Yeah, you were right. That's because he's not coming back. He's just helping the business. Yeah.

Exactly. What's the scene of puddle? What's the scene of puddle mean exactly? So basically what Cina is doing right now is he graduated high school be still going to all the parties. Okay, go to college, John. Okay, you're done. No.

We come back to our parties with your letterman jacket on, okay? What are you talking about? Leave some for the rest of us. That's not what's happening. John Cena is trying to continue to build the business. He's just not wrestling anymore. Okay.

Yeah, I was saying like seeing a puddle is in the sense that right now it's kind of like a desert and everyone's just so thirsty. And they got nothing to hold on to. That's not true. You put John Cena on the building. You especially get that,

but yeah, that I mean. for two getting an opportunity here who's a big deal who's the first one it's the same guy is he evil fighting oh evil's in nxt i do believe debuted last week love that a lot of debuts in a spell guy fighting uh dan housing's actually looking for a tag team partner i do believe for backlash yeah he's great so we probably won't see him for a couple months no we'll see Dan Housie's everywhere. He's a backlash. Did you see the video? I did. He's great. He's unbelievable.

Where's back at last last. I do like Dan Housen as well. No, it's Housen. We're seeing him too much. No. He's not jumping shark. Dan Housen, he's only starting housing. Yeah, that is what's happened.

Is jelly getting, is he going to squash somebody? I'll tell you, he broke my back. He almost broke my neck. So. Oh, it's in Tampa? Nice. Yeah, it's John Cia lives here. He lives in Tampa?

Yeah. The guy's been doing, yeah. I thought he lived overseas. He did for those five years. It's official. He's headed back to WWE backlash. After months of planning and effort, I am so excited to break some history-making news.

I can't promise it'll be perfect, but I can't promise it'll change the WWE experience for superstars and fans. See you live Saturday in Tampa at home on the ESPN app. Hell yes, Sina. This is what you guys are all mad about. What could it be? What could it be? What's going to change the whole experience?

What is it? I don't know. I believe in John Cena, though. personally. I would like to let it be known that I believe in John Cena. I did. So whatever he's. So he lied right to our face. He sat right there. He was grandstanding in this office.

That jar of coffee. He's not a little stupid coffee. He was a local coffee shop. Gimic coffee. He was drinking that gimmick little coffee for six hours. He supported the business. He said, are you going to question my integrity? I'm never coming back.

Right. And lo and behold, sounds like his integrity. No, he's not in the ring. I saw him in the ring with the microphone in his hand. Announce in attendance, which was an incredible number, and I think he was partially to blame

for the amount of people that came. He's not wrestling. Even whenever the Housins came out, no physical, no physicality. The John scene of being around WW is a good thing, not a bad thing, I think, personally. At backlash.

Tribal chief. Housing killed that. Is he? Yeah. That was comedy. He will be there. That was actually funny. He was a travel chief wrestling.

Jacob Fattu. We talked, we just talked about it. I didn't know anything that you were saying. That's on you. Adam of me, baby. It's on you. Why is it on me?

Because you said, I should have counted quicker. Randy. I should have counted quick. If Randy loses, we're out. And I'm not. No, no. I took my marching orders and I went.

No, no, because if I would have just went. Game. You didn't did. I think you still save the business. Well, yeah. That's what I'm doing. This was the problem. The pizzazz was that.

I did. Yeah. You pimped it. Have you ever world title? You did pimper. Yeah. It's like you pipped the home run and got robbed. That's on me.

It's on me. I got lost in there a little bit, you know? How could you not? I already had a neck brace on. Mm-hmm. He attacked him. Saw my weakness. That's why he's the viper.

Yeah. The apex predator. He knows. Yeah. The legend killer. He's got an animal. It's out of him. The depiction of perfection for professional wrestling.

I felt so good that coming out of my mouth in a stadium. Stadium's tough because the echo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stadium is tough. That's not a place you want to be speaking. It played. Meteors in there.

Didn't think about that until as I was going, oh, forgot about this one. This is good. It's the business. Good. Oh yeah, I messed the people up. Me. Did you see the Pittsburgh Steelers going before we did the NFL draft experience with the kick?

With the giveaway. Oh, yeah. Hello. Oh, and it starts and I go, oh, no, I was not prepared for this. We just threw this together in the last 25 minutes and I didn't even think about the X- while I'm talking to these people. It was incredible.

What a fun time. What a fun life. What a great experience. Thank you to sports. Huge ones tonight, AJ. Let's get your picks on these things. In the east, we got Flyers at Hurricanes 7 p.m. on ESPN.

Hurricanes currently up 1-0. This is the second round. Who do you like? How do you like it, AJ? Let's go ahead and make a pick here. You know what? We spent some good time with Coach Bill Kauer back at the draft. I know he is a Hurricanes guy.

He has the, what do you call it? What do you do with the siren? in the situation. He blared. He did that whole situation. Because of my love for him, I'm taking the old hurricanes on this one. I'll tell you what,

I love Bill Cowher too, man. That was an incredible couple of days with Coach Carr. I mean, actually, an incredible couple days. He said, you know, the deal that was made for him to do that was something like he,

I could have never expected, you know, Coach Cowher. He did wailed on their sign. He did against the Penn's, I believe. And also Stormy put Gertie in a body bag. Yeah. Good social media coming

out of this particular. Who? The Hurricanes mascot, Stormy, put Gerthy into a body bag. Gritty is the name of... I refuse to call him that. Okay, maybe the Gerthy one, okay, obviously. A Muppet... Depends on what body part appendage you're talking about.

Well, I think it normally only gets talked about for one. I don't think there's normal other... Unless he's a soup can. There could be a chance Campbell's... Not a bad situation. Also plays. But on that note, Gritty is who you're talking about?

Gritty got bare. Yeah, it did. By Stormy. What's that? You got a deep. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it.

You're talking about penises right now? Oh, my God. What did you say? I don't forget. I would like to know the inside joke about a penis. You're talking about soup can. Yeah. And then there was a, that would be terrible.

And then somebody complimented it. And then welcome to hell you Muppet reject. This is what we were talking about. Nothing to do with penises. No. Or soup cans. Just two mascots. that's kind of getting after it on social media.

Okay, I do appreciate that. But we would assume this would be a very fair fight between Stormy and Gritty. I'm not sure Gritty can die, and I think Stormy would kill. What a tweet, what a time? Yeah. And that's when social media is good. What you say, Lopez? What?

I said soup can. I said he goes east and west. That's all I said. Okay. Gotcha, yeah. Yeah, you got to hit the walls, I guess. Can't hit the back door. I got to hit the signs.

Malie Willis, I don't know if you saw this, AJ. He overthrew his opening pitch. He did have a glove, though, which nobody's really talking about. He came prepared with a glove, which I respect. Very rare whenever it comes to first pitches. He overthrows nasty, and then obviously the whole world goes, oh, the dolphins are going to stick. Your thoughts on whether or not this is going to lead to success or not?

Yeah, we touched on it before, obviously. This is all success. As long as you don't bounce it, I am. an absolute fan of whatever you do. I wish you would have thrown it into the 50 throw-up from the fan. Maybe the next move from somebody is to fully embarrass yourself and chuck this thing

over the backstop, I believe is the name of that. Yes, it is. And you've got to go over the net. That'd be quite a... That'd be way of it. My big takeaway was look at the ham hawks he's got for cabs. That's yeah. That was my takeaway. It's my quarterback.

And he looks jacked. Can you go back a little bit? That right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does look jacked. Yeah, the calves. It's working. Yeah. Power. And football is so much bigger than a baseball.

I've been trying to throw a baseball or a wiffle ball in here. It's not easy for the football thrower. So Malik Willis has been training so hard with football. You put that little tiny baseball in his hand. He's like Shaquille O'Neill holding a basketball. Remember we watching that Joe Burrow. Was that phenomenal? Oh, yeah, that was not good either.

He threw two yards into the dirt. Do it 10 times in a row. That's interesting. I forgot about Joe Burrow not being able to throw a strike either. And that was short left, though. That's what gives me even more faith in Maloney. league because it was much closer to Mahomes than it was to Burrow. Yeah, it's hard to throw

baseball. It's hard to throw. Hey, how the Red's doing? Doing great. What are you talking about? We've got a long season ahead of us. We're doing great. Here's Joe Burma, representing the Cincinnati Bengals at Fanatics Fest. Remember we thought this might not be real? Remember that? Or we thought he might be messing around. Like the first one I can see. Maybe even the first two.

Is it something about this cage, though? I feel like Ruben threw in that same cage. Maybe there's some kind of weird lasers in there taking the ball from you. That one wasn't bad. You should start to aim and run. You know, I think he just hadn't thrown a baseball in a while. He's making the adjustment. Yeah, the last two weren't terrible.

Like if Malik had five, six throws. All right, put it down. Malik also matched in the batting cage as well. Oh, really? He beat the shit on the baseball in the cage. Did he? He's an athlete. I didn't see that.

Remember Orlovsky threw a nice ball in here with a baseball. Yeah, like a thousand times in a row at 8 a.m. But he was A-Rot when he was 12, though. Oh, that's right. He said that. Same trajectory, didn't. Love baseball. Who caught for him there?

Gumpy? Yeah. Yeah, it was a little low. That was a good catch. It was certainly. He was down in there. Yeah. Gumpy got real Donald low in there for Dan Orlovsky.

We appreciate that. All right. I think we need to get to hell out of here. How's the weather? Beautiful today. 75 and sunny, I believe it. Maybe not so sunny right now, but 75. We got some rain right now.

It should be done 25 minutes is what the... That's crazy that we have that in our society right now. Thank you, Joe. Feels like 60. It says 69. They're still working out there. be just a little light mist as opposed to maybe a real rainstorm. Yeah. Good

to see the crew out there getting after it, AJ. Are they, the roundabout coming is going to be done real soon? Yeah, I think the traffic's going to be a real problem. I think traffic's going to be a real problem. Allegedly, they're really moving on construction and everything. They think it's going to take less time.

Have you heard more than I have? Are you talking about, just getting vibes from the board-ass drivers, too. Just kind of just seeing, observing. They feel good about it. We are in construction season. Shout out to everybody out there doing it. We appreciate you putting our world together.

Certainly inconvenient for most, but who cares? Progression has to happen. Things have to get better. Sometimes you've got to take it on the shins to do as such, or battle the sun. Shout to Nelly joining us. Yeah, it was awesome. I appreciate her.

She was awesome. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with her again. We certainly knew that her league went all the way until a week before Thanksgiving. Right, AJ? We knew that. Yeah, we did. I'll tell you what, she's got a long road ahead. She's got a lot of tournaments.

She's going to still win this year. Six top two, finishes in a row. Now can she carry it for the next 55 weeks? Yep. What's Scottie got? Three three second place finishes in a row for Scotty? Yeah, he's starting to really get going too. What happened to him on 18th? He fell out of that thing pretty good. Him talking about Cam Young was cool. He was talking about Cam Young draining everything. Feels like he just drained everything. He didn't miss anything. Scottie was like, I got to play with him here. Wire to Wire. Cam wins this entire thing. He's hitting incredible shots. How do you feel about him giving himself that penalty?

I love it for the good of the game. He was up five strokes. Everybody said it's much easier to call that whenever you're up five. He came from a golf family, right? His dad is a golf instructor, a PGA pro. Feels like he grew up on the course. Feels like this was a good moment for him to showcase what you're supposed to do. I think that is probably how he viewed it all. We've also seen guys that have done this in the past.

I mean, and this is strictly just allegedly and things that were on the course. But Patrick Reed, that has followed him, Patrick Reed, for a long time since a lot of people, whenever they're in the sand, him doing that whole thing, like the honor of the game. It does feel like there are guys that hold in high regard. And I don't know if Camion's thinking like, oh, if I don't say this right now, people are going to say I'm cheating.

But I do think there is that sense of like, hey, I owe it to the game. Who cares why he did it? If he thought that maybe somebody was going to call him out publicly, and he did it, if he thought to himself immediately for the good of the game and did it, who cares still did it with a lead on Sunday, for the good of this great game that we love, DeButch.

I like it is a beautiful game. And it made me feel especially good after learning of someone in here who played high school golf and told me about how they cheated every tournament. Because I got a daughter and we stick by the rules. Even though I hate it, I would like to help. But this got Foxy cheating. What do you mean? We would cheat in matches, in team matches, because if you're cheating, it's good for the team

because you're going to win. So in practice, no cheating. That is not allowed because we need the best golfers to be out there and need the best six. But in matches, it's a good team move to cheat in. in matches for it. I love everything. What is the cheating move? How are you cheating? Let's just say, you know, you walk up to your ball and you have a four footer. No one's looking. I'm marking that three feet away or maybe a, oh, no, two feet away. You've got that thing in half. If you can get get away with it, that's what you do. Now, scumb bag. So another one example, you know, I'm going

through scorecards end of the round. I'm like, wow, I played really bad today. We're going pop pop you say like four or three and they're all like yeah yeah yeah and then the other guy goes you got a five there right I really got a seven on it yeah I got a five there oh two stroke swing that's a big one that doesn't happen much and this is why the golf gods won't bless you with anything longer than 230 yards

for the rest of your life you're not lying and I agree with you guys I like that Cam Young called himself on it and like you know integrity respect the game all that shit but it is a problem with the game of golf like that clearly didn't give him any advantage. It clearly just slowed things down. Scotty even says in the background, like, bro, if it didn't move, or if you weren't addressing it, or if you didn't do it intentionally, then don't worry about it. But we always have to go with the rules. Rules are there for a reason.

And it just kind of, I don't like that part of it. What do you want? You want Jason Kelsey jumping in Augusta's late and Bond? Is that what you're trying to get rid of the integrity of golf? I think golf is already hard enough and he didn't do anything to try to cheat and try to do his thing. like Patrick Reed, people are like, he did that on purpose to improve his life. I don't think Cam Young was doing that. Let's just keep it moving. Don't need the stroke panel. Okay.

I can agree with that. But what precedent does that set? Exactly. Rules are there for a reason. Kids watching, man. Yeah. My daughter's turned three today. Yeah.

She needs a golf that is golf. Yeah. Okay, not whatever you want. Well, you just want the YouTube clips anyways, don't you? Yeah, that's all I will. We're going to all play golf at some point in the future. I don't cheat when I'm with you guys. Sure.

I believe you for sure. This guy always wins. Yep, always finding his ball no matter what. You never would have thought that with Foxy. No, you wouldn't know. Because he played in King Young. Exactly. If you're on my team, I'll cheat for us, though.

We're trying to win here, all right? Jesus. All right, I'll play the Foxy. Thank you for sacrificing. And no one else wants to. No, I'm starting to wonder how many times I've reaped the benefits of. You do play with him in front of it. Foxy cheating.

I mean, there are some tournaments in high school. school golfer you got a scrambles you're with a teammate there i mean you're standing your teammate up there found your ball or i mean there are times je you're improving your lie by this much if you can get away with it that's a big deal on the putting on the putting green yeah turn a four-footer into a two-footer yeah i'd say and really you're just like laughing about it at that point it's pretty damn footer into the hole holy shit did you got it rolled in look here and you got to keep in there's a lot of goofballs that play varsity golf. So, like, you can get away with a lot of stuff.

You don't say, yeah. Not you. It's no believable. Not me. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Foxy, they're going to start looking into all the Williamston's golf records. I was all league in my senior year. Let's go.

Take that away. You never had a bad line. Take that away. Somehow, I always was in perfect position. Never behind a tree. Fair away, Foxy. Oh, that's all of them. That's like we heard.

I'm not getting into it. Be a friend-tellin something nice. I'm going to change your life. We're in this thing together. Massive games tonight. Okay, we already picked one. Sorry, we've got to finish this. Okay, so you like the hurricanes there in Flyers v. Hurricanes.

How about the Ducks and Golden Knights 930 on ESPN? Who do you like in that one, AJ? I like the Vegas Golden Knights. I am a John Tortorella fan, and he's running the ship right now. Okay, so you got torts and you got the hurricanes because Bill Carr. I'll take the Flyers and I'll take the Golden Knights as well. Debutt, would you like to pick these games? Sure.

Let me go, you know what? Flires just took a bad. I'm going to hurt. Hurricanes and go to Nights. Okay. Town Day. Give me the Cains and Ducks. Conman.

I'll go. A Canes Golden Nights. Man, nobody believes in Sanheim in the boys in Philadelphia. Cains haven't lost yet this entire. I don't believe in Philadelphia. Haven't been down the whole playoffs. A pretty historic run for them. And tonight, Gritty in the Flyers get gritty on the ice.

And they change that whole thing around. Let's go to the NBA. Sixers in Knicks, Joel Embed. Shom said playing, it sounds like. Well, as he takes on the Knicks and Jalen Brunson, favored by seven and a half, AJ, who do you like? Man, honestly, I like the Sixers here. All I can picture is Tyrese Maxie at the end of their last game, how sudden, how quick, and how fast that dude can get to the hoop and take over the game at the end.

And if Embed is playing, yeah, give me the Sixers here. You like Sixers plus seven and a half? Oh, sure. Yeah, I'll take him plus seven and a half as well. Debutt? I am a little worried about the Sixers coming off. kind of that emotional, high, that big comeback, game seven. Nicks are kind of fresh.

That's a lot of points. I'm still going to Sixers plus seven and a half. Okay, Sixers plus seven and a half, even though he tried to talk himself out of it. Tone Diggs? He made a lot of good points. Sixers plus seven and a half. Convan?

I'll take to Knicks. Okay, Knicks minus seven and a half. Connor saves the graphic, if you will. Timberwolves and Spurs, Ant Man, full participant or trying to get his way back into the game, just nine days removed from a hyper extension. caused a bone bruise in his knee taking on Wemby and the Spurs. Spurs favored by 13 and a half.

Is that still the spread? Down to 11.5. 11.5 is now the spread. Okay, that makes sense with the news from Shams about Ant Man potentially playing tonight. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? With Ant Man coming back, I don't know if they're going to win, but I'm taking Minnesota plus 11 or plus 11 and a half, right?

Plus 11.5. Debutt? I'll take Spurs to cover 11.5. Tone. Same. Deboebuk. Yeah, Spurs. Wemby over points.

It's him versus Gobert. French battle down low. They were teammates in the Olympics. Okay, I'll take the spurs in that as well. All right, let's enjoy the hell out of tonight's playoffs. We got some baseball tonight, I assume? Yeah, the whole slate. Oh, some baseball news, too.

Oh, yeah. Speaking of cheating Foxy. Yeah, not good, Foxy. Scoobles being shut down for, he's got to have surgery on his elbow. Damn. Floating bodies in his elbow, they said two to four months or something like to two to three months. Detroit Ace.

Terrick Scubel. We undergo surgery to remove loose bodies in his left elbow. Such procedures typically sideline players for two to three months. Scoobel should return before season ends, but tough blow for the impending free agent. And two-time, raining a.L. Sy Young winner, that sucks. Loose bodies. Yeah, he's probably got a little chipping something. Yep.

Chipping something. It's kind of floating around in there. That sucks. It kind of happens to your meniscus, I think. A piece of your meniscus kind of chips off or something else like that. just kind of bounces around and it like locks up it like locks up your kind of where it sits yeah it's like where it is depending upon I did in my knee when I hyper-extended my knee I got a dislocated patella which is your kneecap your kneecap sits in groove mine when I hyper-extended it

it bounced outside of the groove and it bounced back so there was like a little chip of something that was like bouncing around in there so like when that would get into certain spots it was like oh my god and then it would bounce out of the way you know then you're like back to business but Yeah, I don't know if it's similar, but sounds like loose bodies is something that's floating around in there, and it gets real terrible when it happens upon some places there. All right, great. Is this because he did Team USA training camp? Oh, no.

Legit might be. I think you should have pitched for Team USA. We would have found this earlier. He would have been back earlier. We could have won the World Series. Also, it turns out wouldn't have mattered if you pitched in the U.S.A. Because this was going to happen regardless of sound. Man, if he would have pitched for Team USA and then this happened?

Bad news. It's been loud. Spoole, especially with how much money is on the way. This doesn't affect the money, I don't think, right? People are still going to pay Scobel? Yes, definitely. In this prime, yeah. If it's two, three months,

especially if he comes back and pitches well for the rest of the season, and then, yeah. Good luck out there, Scoobel, we're pulling for you. Sorry, Detroit. Sorry, Detroit. You get the stones, you lose Scoobel. Yeah. Sorry, Motor City Kitties.

What's that? The Detroit Tigers? That's what I call all the Motor City Kitties, yeah. Do a lot of people call them that? Because this could be like the Stones thing, where Foxy kind of puts us out on an island and everybody says this and nobody says it. A lot of people saying the Motor City kitties?

Yeah, a lot of people I know call them up. Real, I've never heard it before. People call them that. I don't. It also look for the Lions as well if you really wanted to go there. Oh, yeah. Oh, you guys are a bunch of Motor City kitties up there. I like more cases.

I'm kind of impressed with the Motor City kitties, though, because the lion's great animal. Great. That's a great kitty. Yep. And that's a powerful fucking kitty. Yeah. So it's a tiger's a badass cat as well. To the best.

Motor City badass kitties, I think. You know, he could kind of get after it. The line's going to win again? You guys missed playoffs this last year? Yeah, we're going to win again. We have the easy schedule in the NFL and also the boys are gritty and chippy and ready to roll. What does that mean, AJ, the easiest schedule in the NFL? Are they playing professional teams?

Yeah, is that possible? Are they playing some college teams or would you guys rather have the fourth-place schedule in all the divisions? Or would you have first-place schedule? What we're saying is we think that that's all bullshit, though. Going off of last year's record, right? I'm pretty sure the Patriots had the hardest schedule at the beginning of the season last year. And then it ended up being the easiest schedule by the end of the end of the year. I think there's just so much potential fluctuation that could happen with teams and who's good,

who's not good. Remember that year that we were 2 and 14 or whatever and the suck for luck stuff was happening. There was like nine one score games where if a ball just so happens to fumble loose, score, we win that game. I think it's hard to just say a team. Now granted, there are historically good teams and historically ass teams. So I think you get that I don't like the whole that that has become a thing that like you get a bad schedule. It's like there's no fucking bad schedule.

The NFL is good at football, all of them. Some perpetual ass. We all thought of the Jets right there? I did not. Who did you think of? Perpetual ass, yeah. Dolphins. I was strictly thinking about the schedule getting thrown in drag me his face,

even though it's just not a- Oh, last year. Well, that's what I'm kind of saying right now. It's not real. Like, teams good that you're playing against. People can pay millions and millions of dollars to play football. Some teams you show up better. obviously, especially at the end of the season,

but like the Jets not doing ass stuff this off season. Not yet. A good draft. No leaks. Love that. And this in this comment, love that. That's crazy. The number two overall pick,

no leak at all. They got the pick as in being filmed some other places. Leaks everywhere, literally. Come on in. Let's film all the leaks. And in the Jets organization, which is notoriously ass. No leaks for that number two overall pick.

I think that was a huge sign. I think that was a huge sign personally, AJ. Oh, yeah. I would imagine head coach Aaron Glenn is cutting the clips too with you saying that's a great sign and showing the front office as well. Hey guys, we're cleaning things up around here. I think we've talked a lot of shit on the Jets. I don't know if they're showing much of us around there.

And on that note, good luck to all parties. We'll be back tomorrow. We got big games tonight in the playoffs. Round two of the NBA and NHL playoffs on the way. What a great time to be alive. If you get a chance to see you, Savannah Bananas. No, dude. Do it.

You're going to be put first, fan first. We'll sign a first autograph and the last autograph. 102,000. It's a lot. That's crazy. That's so many people going to something. A ton. So many fucking people.

Insane. I don't know how you could hate at this point. Justice's just going to the next place. Maybe Central Park. Shit. That'd be cool. Maybe a beach. Maybe the moon.

If it happens, he'd be there. I believe it. Him and Dana White are going to be racing to see who can get the first event. Yeah, seriously. Be a friend, tell her friend, something nice. Might change your life. us together we'll see you back tomorrow tie congratulations we love you man team on me team on three one two three team happy birthday mackenzie