The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 155 - Aaron Hernandez Doc Chat.. Also, Legends Dante Hall & Lorenzo Alexander Stop By

Episode Date: January 17, 2020

On today's show, Pat and the boys discuss the new Aaron Hernandez documentary on Netflix and try to process all the information that was presented, and find it hard to break down the situation other than finding it to be very sad and tragic amongst other things. Also joining the show is 2x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro, member of the 2000's All Decade Team, the man known as the X-Factor and the Human Joystick, former Chiefs great Dante Hall, joins the show. He and Pat discuss this weekend's Conference Championship games and Dante explains why he thinks despite the Titans having the kind of attack that is poised to win in the playoffs, the Chiefs might have too much firepower. Dante also breaks down the NFC Championship game and whether or not the Packers have enough on the offensive side to challenge the 49ers elite defensive and their dominant front 4. Dante also chats about who some of his favorite returners in the league are right now, and what he thinks of the XFL rules that will allow for more explosive plays on punt and kickoff returns (21:04-36:55). Also joining the program is 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, recently retired Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, and friend of the show, Lorenzo Alexander. Lorenzo and Pat chat about his retirement and when he first made the decision to hang up his cleats. Lorenzo also discusses Luke Keuchly's retirement and whether or not he was surprised by the move. They also cover each Conference Championship, and Lorenzo explains why it is so hard to tackle Derrick Henry, and what Aaron Rodgers needs to do to try to exploit San Francisco's explosive front 4. Lorenzo also gives his thoughts on how the Buffalo Bills are poised to make a big step starting next year (39:23-48:04). Also included is the new segment, "Dumb Questions Asked on Sports Shows," with topics including Joe Burrow vs. Tua, Russell Wilson attempting to make a "comeback" next year, and whether or not Patrick Mahomes will be considered a failure if the Chiefs don't win the Super Bowl. Today's show is a fun one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Part of the cool crowd. I was up till the wee hours of the morning watching it, just completely intrigued by, you'll hear, just so sad. Sad. Senseless murders, a gifted athlete making terrible decisions, and just two very different lives

in a human like that exists. I mean, we talk about that. Talk to Dante Hall, who's an absolute legend, the return specialist, the X factor, the human joystick and Lorenzo Alexander. Let's get to it. Today's a good one. I thank you for listening. You're the absolute best. Tweet me throughout this thing. Tell me what you like and what you hate. I can't thank you enough. Cheers. Aaron Hernandez, Doc. Shocking. Very shocking, especially for the people of the New England area.

I would assume to learn a little bit more about it. I feel like you guys knew more than the rest of the world, especially about the other two killings. I'll talk about that here in a second. At Nick Moroto on the ones and twos, Tone Diggs, Ty Schmidt, Jason McAfee. Good to see you, Jay. Hey, boy, Jay.

At Viva Lozito, at evan foxy and todd mccomis i think to be completely candid while watching that aaron hernandez documentary last night i completely forgot about aaron hernandez i think the nfl and the powers that be whatever it was eliminated aaron hernandez from the pop culture rolodex so quickly that I completely forgot about an absolute monster that was playing in the NFL. I had just watched the people verse OJ Simpson like two weeks ago. So I've been all in on these athletes that just make terrible decisions and, you know, murder humans basically. And the OJ one, I think was much better done. I think it was much better done. I think this Aaron Hernandez documentary was not pieced together that great by the filmmaker. But to learn and relearn about the story was kind of shocking and honestly so depressing.

I think you obviously have to feel for Odin Lloyd and the two guys that got killed inside the Boston Theater District there. And then whoever he killed in Florida and all these others. Who knows however many other people that he died that he killed but also such a waste of a gifted athlete that Aaron Hernandez was and this is the same thing that people probably felt with OJ Simpson was this guy who is one of the greatest athletes of all time who was just an absolute buffoon and made terrible decisions in his sociopath And Aaron Hernandez was obviously the same exact thing. To be able to just murder people in cold blood and then piece that aside and play in an entire league, an entire game, an entire whatever, make $40 million is just absolute insanity. And

it hammered home the fact even more that your upbringing and the culture that you're around on a regular basis can change you and affect you forever. And obviously, anybody that watched the documentary last night, there was over a million, I guess, Google searches of Aaron Hernandez. Because I think much like me, and I mean, I was in this world. I was in the NFL. The conversation about Aaron Hernandez, whenever this all came out in the locker rooms, was wild. I mean, because you're talking about, there's a lot of people in NFL locker rooms that that think they're gangster right there's a lot of people in nfl locker rooms that come from terrible neighborhoods so they got to put on and all that stuff but there was nobody really about

that life like aaron hernandez is what we all learned very quickly there was a chance that i dapped up aaron hernandez after a game too like i'm not 100 certain i did but there is a chance that me and hernandez dapped each other up in that hand that i dapped up with after a game and i think we might have beat them at that particular time or lost one or the other, was potentially just holding a revolver, just emptying it into a car, and then waking up the next morning

and going and working out and going into a football facility and acting like nothing happened. That is such a sad, sad, sad story. Think about the Patriots, by the way. If they would have had Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski for you know the duration of that 40 million dollar contract he signed it would have been the Baltimore Ravens what the Baltimore Ravens are right now with all the tight ends and

everything like that to Bill Belichick's credit now he and Kraft I mean they brought a terrible human being into New England which should be there's no way anybody could have expected that a human from Bristol, Connecticut, was going to go to the New England Patriots and just be a complete murderer and stuff like that. So I think what I saw from Belichick in his speech was actually pretty good leadership where he was like, every time we bring somebody in this community, we try to do our best. Like, I think they were even blindsided by all this as the community was. But man, this is such a sad, sad story that I watched last night in that. And I had completely forgot that it existed. And I would recommend everybody watch it, to be honest with you, because I think you learn a lot about not just football and the NFL and the amount of money that's made and everything like that. But you're just talking about a human that was walking amongst

other humans, walking amongst elite humans. Tom Brady, showering next to Tom Brady at like 4 o'clock in the afternoon. And then at 2 a.m. he was out at a club doing like 50-cent shots, getting upset, and emptying an entire revolver into a car, going back to bed, waking up the next morning, playing catch with Rob Gronkowski, and then put that on repeat for the next couple years. think there's obviously a couple interesting situations where alexander bradley the guy that he allegedly shot in the eye was trying to kill him and the the patriots set him up with a hideout apartment that was later deemed a trap house by the way whenever it first

came out everybody's like this is where he was selling drugs out of and stuff like he wasn't selling drugs he was hiding out over there so he wouldn wouldn't get killed. It was just, I think I learned a lot. I think I remembered a lot. But the only thing I took from it is just how sad, how incredibly sad it is that that happens. And in very recent history, that was not that long ago, that somebody who was at the top, the peak of their life, could make decisions that would ruin not only their life, their family's life, but other human beings who had nothing to do with anything. It's just sad that that's how humans exist. not only their life, their family's life, but other human beings who had nothing to do with anything. It's just sad that that's how humans exist. And I would argue that Aaron Hernandez's mother is probably top five worst moms of all time.

Yeah, easily. And it scared the hell out of me to have kids, to be honest. It scared the hell out of me to have kids because if you're a bad parent, there's some bad things that can happen even if that person happens to be one of the greatest athletes of all time like Aaron Hernandez was. That was wild last night.

Did it go through and did the Patriots organization or any of the teammates or coaches or anything know that he was this type of human being outside of the locker room? No, it felt like nobody had a clue. He had two different lives. Two very different lives, I think. And the only person that probably really knew about it was his fiancee, Shayana, who...

Now, you want to talk about ride or die. Shayana was a ride or die. Even when her sister's boyfriend was murdered, she was the only one that showed up at his second trial, the one that he was found not guilty. She was the only person sitting behind Aaron Hernandez. Not his terrible mom, who was just probably a massive part of this whole thing happening, but she was a ride or die.

It felt like the players though had no clue like i think the players knew that he was you know maybe maybe did the dope you know maybe he smoked the dope and things like that but i don't think they had any clue that they were living amongst the gangster and tim tebow by the way he has to run for president at some point he had tim tebow has to run for president the way he answered that like they were obviously tim tebow was with him in college tim tebow was with him at the patriots when this all happened it was tebow mania up there in foxborough and you know i mean just the way he handled that was incredible rob gronkowski almost fought somebody i think they were all

heartbroken too like just how i feel like watching that and how i think everybody probably felt watching that it's just how everybody probably felt watching that is just how sad of a situation it was. Now, this is not saying I ever feel bad for Aaron Hernandez for killing those. I feel much worse for the humans that were innocent that got murdered, obviously. But Aaron Hernandez, I would assume everybody that makes the NFL understands that, man, look at us. Like, hey, we made it, right?

All of our years of hard work, all of our years of dedication from wherever our background is from if it's a single parent to to terrible neighborhoods we we made it up here and we're like proud of each other and then to see that colossal collapse like that just from bad decisions i think it was very sad and you know i think gronkowski took it very very hard to be honest in that documentary there was a time where this guy because they're in the same room you gotta remember rob gronkowski aaron hernandez drafted the same year they're in the same room and that can either be something where you hate each other or you get along and i would assume gronkowski and hernandez at work got along i would assume that that's just the way they are hey we're gonna work hard we're gonna get there and i think it was heartbreaking for everybody but boy what a

sad sad sad situation i would recommend documentary even though i think they put it together in a trash manner like i i think it was put together in a trash it was bouncing around i think they didn't know what they wanted to do with it but the story just being reminded of it was like damn that was not that long ago and there was a i mean there's a legit chance that we we hey man what's up and i'm just like oh yeah you killed maybe 25 it's insane that people can compartmentalize that and then when he goes to jail they're like oh yeah he was just comfortable in jail like he was just happy to be there it was like damn got a lifetime tat as soon as he got in there he was in solitary confinement still found a way to beat the hell out of somebody i mean it was just like what a

spectacle of a human and then obviously they study his brain and it comes out that he has cte and this this incredibly now by the way i think we in in the world make cte jokes on a regular basis i think after watching that documentary i would i will not do it anymore because i honestly believe the guy had something seriously wrong with his brain like i think his mom was a terrible influence on him i think his dad was a terrible influence on him and now think his dad was a terrible influence on him. And now granted, he has a lot of respect for his dad for whatever reason. But I think his upbringing in that house was obviously a dysfunctional one. But I think his brain, I mean, a lot of people are going to say like, well, that's just an excuse.

That's just an excuse. But then when he put his brain next to what a normal brain looked like, there's obviously something cooking up there. I think the CTE joke should maybe relax for a little bit until we continue to learn a little bit more, because it seems like that really messed up a lot of people's lives the way his brain was just battered and it looks smaller than other brains it made no sense to me do they frame it as that being the main like linchpin for him or is it more his upbringing because you obviously wouldn't be able to study like the mom okay the mom I if you watch that documentary the mom seems to be the main

reason it seems to be the main reason but that story was i completely forgot about it i i and i feel bad that i forgot that even like whenever they're like aaron hernandez documentaries coming out i'm like oh what yeah i remember you just he killed a guy right he killed a guy and then you remember it's like no no no he didn't just kill a guy probably killed like five people and let numerous others and all this other stuff i mean it was just like it was insanity man and that jose baez guy you ever get trapped up in a bad situation he got casey anthony out of that obvious murder and he got aaron hernandez out of a double murder after the jury already knew that aaron was convicted of another murder and he had a lifetime

life sentence tattoo on his neck showing to the jury and jose baez got him off of it i don't know how that works i have no idea how that worked but it was a very interesting situation all your headers in soccer though and all the hundreds of tackles you made in football yeah you probably had a concussion yeah you could make cto jokes ct jokes that's the rule i think i have had a few concussions that's my rule i think i have had a few concussions but i i don't think like after you watch that, it's like. See, now I can't watch it. Same reason that I didn't watch Dr. Benet Amalu.

Concussion? Concussion movie? Dude, it was, that documentary was, and you watch it and you're like, you get 10 minutes in, I got a text from Nick when he was eight minutes into it. He was like, just started the Aaron Hernandez documentary. Man, this is going to be sad. And it really was.

It was just a tragic story about a wasted talent that couldn't ever be an actual human. Like, he wasn't an actual human. He was just a completely different specimen. He was so young, too. That's the worst part. 23 years older. He went to Florida at 17, you know? Was Urban in this?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. A couple times. Hey, Urban and Iized beef is done. Gone. But I think... I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. He was either, he didn't care whatsoever about anything he did,

or he was the dumbest human being on the face of the earth. I don't know. You got to remember, in college towns, football players get in fights and things like that. These are things that happen in college towns. Not even in the college stuff. I'm talking about afterwards. When you look at the mountain of evidence they found against him, he either didn't care if he got caught or—

And Aaron you're talking about? Yes, Aaron. See, we were talking about Urban Meyer there for a second, so we've got to clarify that you're talking about Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, Aaron Hernandez did not care. His gum and blunt are sitting right next to the dead guy that's half a mile away from his house. I mean, he was just a buffoon, obviously. I mean, he was just a dumb, dumb, dumb person. Or he was just oblivious to the fact that there was laws and rules that you just cannot.

Return to rental car with the shell casings in the car still. Just in case. He was just dumb. I mean, he was just. I would assume if he has Jose Baez as his lawyer, they would argue, like, you think he's that stupid to leave the shell casing and this and that? He was obviously framed by these other two guys,

blah, blah, blah, that whole thing. But I think he was just a buffoon. I honestly think he was a buffoon. And then the conversations that he was having with people from jail while on trial for murder with outside people, just basically incriminating himself in every single conversation. It was just like this guy, he had no idea that he was even existing as a human, I think.

And that is scary to me, by the way, that that human can just exist. And I would assume there's a lot more. They always said the worst thing that happened to him was being drafted by the Patriots because he went back to where he knows everyone. Did they highlight that? Oh, yeah.

And Urban Meyer in there even talked about he said that one of the problems that he recognized with Aaron Hernandez, and people have tweeted me that Nick Saban said this as well in an interview before Aaron Hernandez went to Florida. He said you have to keep him out of his hometown. You have to keep him away from where he was. And Urban Meyer said every single time he went back, there's something happened. And then he came back. And Urban Meyer said a big part of it was trying not to let him go back there. Then he gets drafted there. He's paid a lot of money there, given all access there.

And it was just kind of a recipe for disaster from Jump Street with his dad and his mom, his situation and his decision-making. It's just sad for everybody. And I think that's what I got from the documentary. I was up to like 1, 130 watching that thing, by the way, because the more and more came out, I was like, oh, damn, I remember that. Oh, my God, I got from the documentary. I was up to like 1, 130 watching that thing, by the way, because the more and more came out, I was like, oh damn, I remember that. Oh my God, I didn't know that.

And then to think that I might have dapped that guy up on a football field, and then just a couple weeks later, he went and killed somebody. I mean, just to be able to flip that switch, I'm always intrigued by those things. I'm always intrigued by the humans that walk amongst us that have this ability to kill

and then just go about their lives i have no idea how you do it aaron hernandez was somebody that was able to do it and it was just a sad sad story somebody that was very gifted very special very talented blew it all because he was a victim of being a buffoon and that is just it was a sad sad story it almost seems like he had like a split personality because you look at like serial killers or whatever like those people aren't in like the limelight constantly like he's playing football on sundays everyone knows who he is like being able to actually like manage those two situations like that's almost impossible to grab interviews too yeah like having to do interviews

and like he's like in his interviews likable to be laughing. I remember one of his last tweets after this all came out. He's like a Puma photo shoot. Like Puma was like, Twitter, is there any way? Like, you know what I mean? Like it was just, you're talking about a guy who it feels like had everybody fooled, except for a collection of people that live in the same world that he was dabbling in at night, you know? And it's just, I didn't know humans could do that to be honest and that's what the documentary show i forgot about it it was jarring his lack of remorse for anything and then the one thing i

don't spoil too much but there was one moment it's chilling it's in the first couple minutes he he's in his jail cell and he's on a phone call with his mother i believe and he talks about how perfect his cell looks and how much he enjoys his cell yeah and even the guards were like uh hey there was something wrong with this guy like he just adapted completely to jail life immediately like just completely adapted to jail life was like i got a clean cell i can't get some harry potters i'm gonna read some harry potters and i'll be out of here soon and it's just it was all very very interesting and then the way he went out obviously is just i mean the aaron hernandez story is one that kind of disappeared for a long time and i'm happy they

did this documentary to bring it back to the forefront to remind people that decision making upbringing and ultimately a lack of just remorse is something that some humans have. And we should learn that. The CTE brain thing, though. A lot of people, I mean, it's something that as soon as the movie Concussion came out, you heard a lot of people say like, oh, this isn't a real thing. This is a real thing. Dr. Will Smith doesn't know what he's talking about.

These people know what they're talking about. It was always like the billionaires who own the NFL did not want to be the people blamed for an inherent risk sport of football potentially ruining people's lives with this CTE thing. So it was always this conversation of, oh, it's not even a real one. It's not even a real disease. It's hearsay. It's this.

It's that. And then you got the people who are like, well, we can't just blame things like CTE for people making terrible decisions. When they showed his brain next to somebody else's brain, I think it's at least worthy of a discussion. And I'm not saying that it's NFL's fault. I don't think it's high school football's fault. I think whenever people play football, they understand that there's an inherent risk.

But I do think that the CTE thing does affect the way humans act. And I don't take blame out of his parents. I don't take blame out of his upbringing like i don't take blame out of his upbringing and his his own self decisions that he was in the situation he was in and everything like that for him making terrible decisions but i do believe that the brain conversation should be one that has had and i think it is affecting a lot of people yeah when you put the brain together with an upbringing then it's just kind of part of the recipe it's not the whole cause it's a piece of the puzzle they also showed too he took an aptitude test or an IQ test,

and his social maturity was the lowest. A one out of ten. Yeah. A one out of ten. What was that one though? Coachable, though. He was like a ten out of ten on coachable. Like he was ten out of ten coachability,

one out of ten on social maturity. He was a recipe for disaster, and he was handed the keys to everything that he ever could have possibly wanted and a lot of people were very innocent lost their lives because of it and i uh i would recommend watching it for everybody excuse me excuse me yes yes was that french yes yes huh it's okay it Okay. You get it. Time for an ad read. Zoom didn't invent video conferencing. They just made it better. Now, Zoom is how business gets done. Zoom ties together all

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the X Factor. Return specialist, Dante Hall. Appreciate that. What's up, my man? Hey, what's up, man? The human joystick is an incredible nickname. I hope they still call you that at the house. Got three kids in four years.

What do you think? All right. Hey, the Chiefs are damn good. I tyree tyree kill just said no offense to he said listen no offense to anybody with all due respect he said which normally means hammers coming yes it's coming he said there ain't nobody that can stop us and to be honest i don't think there's a single human on earth that disagrees with him what do you see from this chief's team i assume you're still a massive fan of the Chiefs. What do you see from this Chiefs team that makes them different this year than in years past?

Well, first of all, he's absolutely right. And, you know, sometimes when you tell the truth, the truth hurts. And that's what it is in this case. But I think the difference in this particular team from what I've seen in years past, is especially the successful Chiefs teams where this team can beat you despite rules like don't turn the ball over, don't have special team gaffes, don't have stupid penalties. They are so explosive, they overcome all that. And if you have any defense to go along with this particular offense, I mean, it's lights out.

Dante, it's standard that if you get a block kick for I mean, it's lights out. Dante, it's standard that if you get a block kick for a touchdown, you lose the game. That's what it is. If you get a block punt for a touchdown, you lose the game. If you muff a punt inside your own 10 and they get it and they score, you lose the game. Those are just stats that are a factual thing.

Like, hey, 90% of the time you get a kick blocked. They just have this ability to withstand anything. And I think, was that Texans' first quarter a wake-up call to a team that is already unbelievable? I don't think it was a wake-up call at all. I think it was a fluke, to be honest. And even though we had the special team muff, we had the special team block, kick for a touchdown, the Texans turned around and did the same thing. They had a muff right inside their 10 and then went for a foolish fourth and four so

that canceled out that particular game i just think that quarter that half was an absolute flu we may never see a half of football or a quarter of football like that again dante hall you change games immediately upon stepping on the field who's the the person for the Kansas City Chiefs that they can't, other than Patrick Mahomes, that whenever he's on the field, it's a game changer? Oh, Tyreek Hill. I mean, it's the speed that makes him, even if he doesn't have a monster game like a seven catch, 130,

just his presence, you must put a man over the top. Then that opens up things for Kelsey Watkins and McCall Hardeman. So it's hands down Tyreek Hill because of the speed. You ran a 4'2", 940. That's a lie. I think that might be on Wikipedia or something. I've never seen 4'2". 4'3", 6 is my

fastest. What a humble, hey, what a humble response by the... Hey! Hey! I'm keeping a buck with you, Pat. Did you write that on the Wikipedia? Are you a kid, too?

Is Tyreek Hill the fastest player you've ever seen on a football field? I think so. Yes. Not even close. And you have to be in person to see it. TV really doesn't do it justice. You have to see all other 21 guys and their speed in live action and then look at his speed.

It's just wild. What has Andy Reid done, you think, this year or maybe even last year? I mean, I've got to remember, Dee Ford, a hell of a football player for the Chiefs for a long time and now for the Niners, he's a game changer. But if he was six inches back, the Chiefs probably win

that game last year and go on to win the Super Bowl. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. This year, though, the Andy Reid conversation has always been, Andy's great for the first 10 weeks, first 11 weeks, and then he runs out of ammo and they kind of sputter out. With Patrick Mahomes and all these weapons, it feels like Andy Reid could probably coach another 20, 30 years

and still keep it going. Yeah, and I think Andy Reid is going to be what Andy Reid is. In my opinion, the biggest difference this year is the defense. We have an opportunistic defense. They're actually a little more stout than they were last year. I think that's the difference because when you need a key third down stop, you're getting it with guys like Ty Matthew. Like, did you see the play he had on Hopkins last week during the comeback?

Little tidbits like that to keep the momentum running, I think is a difference. Ender Reed is going to be Ender Reed. He's going to put up points. His quarterbacks are going to put up numbers. The offense is going to be top five every year. It's the defense this year that's the difference. What do you think about the Tennessee Titans?

They came out of nowhere. The Baltimore Ravens looked like a completely different team than what the Baltimore Ravenimore ravens look like all year and i think the three-week break could have potentially very hurt them but that's a million percent a million yeah i agree with you the tennessee titan you know what i would run a 4-2 to agree with you the tennessee titans though have this team that seems to be built to win playoff games they have a stout defense. They have solid special teams, even though they don't kick field goals.

Brett Kern is an absolute stud, keeps the ball away from the returner. And that offense with Derrick Henry in the background, who's not only running for cash, but he's running through individuals. Is there a chance that the Titans can upset the Chiefs this weekend, or do you see that or no? I mean, it's absolutely a test. And it's funny, the comment you just just made because I actually was thinking about this or in another interview we talked about it.

But think about this. You got this new school Andy Reid offense that's just throwing the ball all over the place. And then you got the old school, kind of your era, definitely my era, of smash mouth, like you say, run game, strong defense, strong specialty. That has been the formula for years, if not forever, to win Super Bowl. So, it's going to be interesting to see which style wins out. Is it smash mouth D or is it opportunistic D and crazy offense? It's going to be a styles game this week.

So, I'm looking forward to that. The Chiefs could have put up 100 points last week. to be a styles game this week so i'm looking forward to that the chiefs could have put up 100 points last week yeah i don't know if i don't know how long derrick henry and that titans offense have to keep patrick mahomes on the sideline but it's gonna have to be a long damn time because i think in a matter of four minutes they scored 24 points or something like that that is that is insanity let's move over to the nfc side now niners packers obviously everybody loves that niners defense everybody loves kyle shanahan and his big brain he's also a very good coach but the packers have aaron rogers and i think that is literally what you have to remember in all these conversations they have a

better defense than they've had in the past they have aaron rogers who always seems to get it done in these types of situations but that niners team looks like they are going to be tough, especially at home in Santa Clara. What are your thoughts? Yeah, my thoughts, I agree with everything you just said, but I think the Niners pull it out. The defense is just going to be too stout. When you can rush four,

and that's how you stop a great quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady. You have to be able to get there with just four, and that's what the Niners can do. But then the Niners can also be explosive on offense. I like Garoppolo. Some people are kind of iffy. I really like him. If Bill Belichick was behind this guy, I'm definitely behind this guy, and my eyes tell me to behind this guy. And I love the rookie Samuels. I like the vet Samuels too, but the rookie Samuels is a difference maker. So with that front four, the difference maker with Samuels and Garoppolo, I think they get it done.

I like the Niners in this one. What a hilarious line there. What did I say? If Bill Belichick likes that guy, because everybody's been talking about how Jimmy G is just a game manager. He doesn't really win games for the Niners. But it is forgotten that there was a lot of rumors and conversation that Billy B wanted to go with Jimmy G instead of Tommy B. There for a long time.

And then they had to get him out of town because of the conversation. You got your gold chain over there. You busting flows and dropping bars on us right now. Hey, this is a T-shirt. We don't have it up for sale yet. Oh, oh, oh, oh. You see that? It looks real, doesn't it?

I thought that was a real Cuban leak. Hey, we'll send one to you, man. I can't afford the Cuban leaks. We'll send one to you. Did you watch that Aaron Hernandez documentary yet? I started it last night. I started it last night. How sad.

I mean, yeah, yeah. Sad, baffling. I'm watching to see, is there anything new I'm going to learn? You know what I mean? Because I've seen the documentaries I've seen the stories, read articles I'm waiting to see Is there anything new that's going to make me be More on his side

Not on his side but more understanding Of why or if I'm just going to be Left feeling the same way I had forgot about it To be honest I had forgot about the Aaron Hennig. Yeah, like I think that is how bad my – You're a millennial, aren't you? I think you are that millennial.

I have. Okay, boomer. Y'all just forget that short attention span. You're a millennial. I mean, obviously, we remember – I remember there, but I forgot just about how good he was hey i forgot about how good he was at football like i think that is something that doesn't get talked about whatever you think about aaron hernandez he was so good at football

he was so rich and he threw everything away because he was just a terrible decision maker and i don't think anybody in the locker room had any idea that he had the second life that was happening outside i honestly don't think that. And I think that's the most surprising thing to me is that in the locker room, I feel like you get to know everybody. That's what when people retire, they miss the camaraderie, the brotherhood in the locker room. I think Aaron Hernandez, I don't think he had much camaraderie in the locker room. And I don't think anybody had a clue what was going on outside. I agree completely because what guy, throughout all the documentaries, what teammate was he constantly with?

You never see a guy. It was always guys outside of football. And, you know, like you say, typically you're going to be cool with all 53 men on the roster, but you're going to cling to two or three or four. I've never seen this guy attached closely to any of his teammates. So I agree. I don't think any of them knew because I don't think he was hanging with them. That's interesting.

Who's your favorite person that you ever played against or with? With is easy. He's not even a big name. Sylvester Morris. He's still my best friend today. He was in my wedding. I was in his wedding.

He was the first round draft pick. He had injuries that totally derailed his career. First round draft pick. Played one year in the NFL. First round draft pick. Sylvester Moore. He's by far my favorite guy, even though he's not the biggest name. What position? Wide receiver from Jackson State.

He was 6'4", ran a 4-3-8 at two, I think he played at 2-15. And he got drafted first round out of Jackson State after playing one year. He was a beast. But because he was built like a damn chicken and had chicken legs, he tore both his ACLs up and he had a hip injury.

And I just think it's because, you know, that was just the freakest body he had, 6'4", 215, running a 4.38. It's kind of like A.J. Green. Guys like that are tall, slender. It's just hard to stay healthy. What are your thoughts on the XFL? I think if you were in your prime right now, you might score 45 touchdowns with the new XFL rules.

Nobody's allowed down the field before the ball is punted. The kickoff rules, nobody's allowed to get a running start for cover. You might score literally 45 touchdowns if you're in the XFL right now. Do you like those rules? Yeah, I would agree with that. That's just backyard football. These guys got organized backyard football. It's crazy.

You like it or hate it? You think the NFL will adapt? I like it. I like it. Of course you do. I like it because football, the offseason is just too long. You got freaking baseball going nine months. You got basketball lasting eight, nine months or whatever. And football,

it's like we have to wait what's coming up. February 1st, just look at all the time in between. So, I don't mind a little XFL, a little football in between that time span. Who's your favorite returner in the league right now? Right now? Yeah. That's easy. McCall Hardeman. Come on.

McCall Hardeman. I mean, isn't it crazy though? Tyreek Hill, if Tyreek Hill was just to focus on returning, he would be an all-pro returner every single year. Every single year he would be.

And somehow, Andy Reid and that personnel, I don't know who the GM that makes the decisions over there, they have found somebody that's... Brett Veach.

Brett Veach. He's a beast. Yeah. I mean, obviously, he is. Because you take Tyreek Hill and you're like,

how would you ever want to take Tyreek Hill out of the returning game? They're like, ah, don't worry about it. We got this other guy that just will just drop right now. Well, and you're like, how would you ever want to take Tyreek Hill out of the returning end? They're like, ah, don't worry about it. We got this other guy that just dropped right now. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. I think what happened, if you remember, when Tyreek got into the little trouble in the offseason,

no one knew if he was going to still be on the team, get suspended, any of that. It was looking very bad for him when it first came out. And this was around draft time so i think what happened was uh the chiefs didn't know and they wouldn't got an insurance policy and it just so happened and for tours for tour this way that the chiefs were able to keep both of them now you got two speedsters two return men and you can put the rookie back there and save tyree that's really what happened you know what you could do you can do the rookie back there and save Tyreek. That's really what happened. You know what you can do? You can do that fake return, you know, where the one guy acts like he's catching the ball. I assume they're going to bust that out at some point.

Tyreek Hill. I hope not. I don't want to see anything. No more. Just let McColl catch the ball and take off running. No tricks. Don't put Tyreek back there. None of that.

Just let McColl Hardeman do his thing. He saved us two games so far. You've been watching the Chiefs and week, what game was that? It was the final week he saved the team. We were down 24. He broke a return, broke the game wide open. We're down last week. He breaks a big return

when we're down 24-7, gets the ball rolling. So I really like his momentum and I like what he's done in the last few weeks. Returners can change the game. They don't get enough respect. Dante Hall, you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. I can't wait to see that happen. The human joystick. Thank you so much for your time, ladies and gentlemen, the X Factor, Dante Hall. Thank you, man. Cheers. Good luck to the Chiefs. The Chiefs are such a dynamic team and it feels like they're not going to let what happened last year

or anything get in their way. That first quarter could have brought them down, could have disparaged them a little bit. Instead, they just continued to stack and believe. And I don't know how you stopped that team. Honestly, I don't know how you stopped that team. But nobody knew how you stopped the Baltimore Ravens. And the Tennessee Titans were able to do it

because Mike Vrabel has that team believing. Mike Vrabel has a team that's built to travel. That team does not care about the noise that the kingdom's going to bring. They do not care about how cold it's potentially going to be. They don't care about how many points the Chiefs are going to score. They're going to do what they do.

They're going to run the ball. The offensive line's going to control the line of scrimmage. But if they have to punt just a few times, you have to think that Patrick Mahomes and that offense are going to be able to figure out the Titans' defense and score just because that's what they've been able to do all the damn time. Them going down by that much and then being able to come back and win is probably the best thing ever to happen to them. Whether it was a wake-up call or not, it seems like it was.

And now they're going into this week like we cannot let that happen again. Or if they get down, like, hey, remember, we're about 24 zips. Remember just like last week we were down 24 zips and nothing happened. We've got to get to a break. 10-41 here on the East Coast. 7-41 West Coast. Shout out to Dante Hall for joining us. That guy used to be light.

He's awesome. He was. He was very cool. At the draft, he was awesome too. He should be in the Hall of Fame. I agree. There's not enough spots every year, though. You know what I mean?

That's the problem. Not enough spots every year. And then you have to pay respect just like the nfl all-time team like they had to pay respect to the legends that built the game like you know what i mean it's just an interesting thing the politics game but he was a game changer he opened the door i think for guys like devin hester he opened the door for these guys that became return specialists and to be honest back in the day there was only team like one or two teams that had great specialists and they benefited from it nowadays it's everybody has a returner gentlemen valentine's day is right around the corner and valentine's day might be a holiday about love and romance but we all know it's an effort holiday. Valentine's Day is an effort holiday.

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man the last four years up in buffalo been awesome how now going into retirement did you know coming into the season this was potentially it? Was it mid-season? When did you have that conversation? Yeah, it was definitely potentially coming into this last season. Me and my wife had talked about it really over the last two or three years, obviously getting older. Our kids are getting older and wanting to be a part of their lives. But I didn't make the decision probably around week eight, week nine, body feeling bad,

all those type of things that go into your mind, just how I feel as an older player. But mainly the main reason was it came down to choosing my family and really wanting to be there for my kids, for my wife, travel and really enjoy the things that we sacrificed over the last 15 years and be able to do it with a high quality, you know, not limping around, gimping around if I continue to play this game. You know, every Hall of Fame speech, normally there comes a time where the Hall of Famer says,

I apologize to my kids for not being around enough. That doesn't get thought about a lot by NFL players whenever you're in it. It's a very selfish profession. You're not around a lot. You got to do what you got to do. And the wife and the mom usually has to carry a lot of the burden. I'm happy you're making that decision. Yeah, I appreciate it.

And like you said, my wife has really held it down. And what it started becoming for me is that, you know, I believe in faith, family and football and being an older player, I had to start preparing to prepare all the massages, the dry needle and acupuncture, you know, the stretching, all those type of things that would add additional time on top of my regular preparation that took additional time away from the kids. You played 15 years, Luke Keekly just retired after eight. Do you blame him for that decision or did you see it coming? Yeah, not at all.

I mean, obviously, Luke has had some issues with concussions. And at the end of the day, this game is not worth your livelihood and the quality of life that you want to be able to live on, you know, with his family, with his future kids, and all those other things that this game can strip from you if you if you are dumb tough as i call it and try to push through things that you shouldn't do push through i agree completely i am very happy for you very happy for luke geekley let's move to these games now 15 years in the nfl have you ever seen an offense with this many weapons like the kansas city chiefs have right now um not really

not at all. I mean, they operate on so many different levels. I mean, it's a high-octane offense. And once they figure you out, you know, I've been around or competed against Andy Reid, coached teams often. And once he gets his thumb on you, it might be night-night. I've been up plenty, many times when I played against him up in Philly when I was with the Redskins, and they put a 50 spot on us.

And so that's probably the only other time I've seen a team kind of made up like this when they had Deshaun, they had Vic, they had Shady. They had a lot of weapons offensively, and you just can't double one guy because anybody can beat you at any time. What do the Titans have, and what have the Titans done with their team now? You guys played them earlier in the season. They have evolved since then, right? I mean, Ryan Tannehill has become this special.

I wouldn't say they have evolved. I think they figured out how to win and execute at a high level. And they're much very similar to Baltimore, and they beat Baltimore at their own game. They're going to ground and pound you, play great defense, try to get up on you, you know know maybe one or two scores and then turn into a four-minute offense and hand the ball off to derrick henry over and over and over again until you get tired of tackling him and then the fourth quarter he comes up big with another score and

then on defense they play good sound uh great defense and create turnovers and get the ball back to their offense and so they're not gonna wow you but they're gonna play sound football you know they're going to play sound football, you know Kind of throw back a little bit when you play them, you know kind of back to earlier in my career In the NFL so they're a little bit of a throwback style team Do they have what it takes to stop this Chiefs team? That is a complete buzzsaw Defensively they're gonna have to create some turnovers make that you know if it gets into a you know a Shootout in a sense where they have to try to score 21, 24,

28 points, they lose the game. But if they can keep it low scoring, create some turnovers, make them kick field goals when they get into the red zone, they'll have a shot, definitely, because nobody wants to tackle Henry when the game is tight in the fourth quarter. That's what I was about to say. Everybody talks about having to tackle

Derrick Henry. I don't think I've heard this many elite players talk about having to tackle a human. Yeah, I mean, you have to make up your mind. I've competed against him the last two or three years a couple of times, and he's beat me, I've beat him, and we've had some draws, but you have to physically bring it to him all day long. And as a DB, I can't be mad at a DB who may be 175, 190,

and you got this guy that's 250 that's coming again, and they crack, and you got to replace. Most guys don't make that business decision or even hold on and wait for the carry to come up by that time. He's either stiff-armed, you're a major miss, and he's out the gate. What is that? Is that like a boxer preparing for a fight i'd assume like hey i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to run into this dude i'm gonna have yeah uh right

but but the issue is that most guys we even saw like earl uh et's make a statement last week like they're gonna have a mindset to come out and tackle him but you do that in the first second quarter and then that third he popped you one time and in that third fourth quarter you're like i'm gonna go in there but i don't really want it you know and so it just happens and it's natural after you try to keep tackling a big man like that who's relentless what do you think about that niners defense and how are they going to cause problems for aaron rogers aaron rogers and his green bay packers team have won close games now they've been very close but they've won they They've continued to win. The defense has been opportunistic, but everybody's talking about this.

Niners defense being fully healthy. Jimmy G and that offense getting into a groove. How do you see that game playing out, and what can Aaron Rodgers do against that defense? You know, it's going to be hard. I mean, I love the Niners front four. I mean, obviously, they're all first-rounders, very elite, and they get after the quarterback, and they play the run very well as well. So it's really going to be led by them. And for Aaron, if he can't get to a rhythm early,

if they're able to take away Parker, maybe double-team him and his first read is off, it's going to get those guys up front to get to him. So it's going to be very tough because I think a Kyle Shanahan offense, again, you know, they game plan well. They don't care how they beat you. They're going to exploit your weaknesses by running the ball or passing it and coming up with some things to really attack your weaknesses. So, in my mind, I think it's going to be the 49ers that come out with the victory in this game.

I think everybody's thinking that. It's a seven-and-a-half point spread right now. I mean, it's more than a score right now for that Packers team who's been in three-point games basically all year. That's a large number, I think. Yeah, and they found ways to win, obviously, because of Aaron and what he's able to bring to that table as far as being a league quarterback.

But this 49ers team is probably one of the most complete teams I've seen for a while, obviously having their core up front, playing great defense, and then offensively being able to beat you multiple ways, whether it's the passing game, the running game, and they have a pretty good quarterback themselves What do you think about the future of the Buffalo Bills you guys had a hell of a run this year and I think everybody Everybody enjoyed watching now granted. They're gonna have to replace you which is a veteran leader It's gonna be difficult, but this bills team looks like you guys are but they're potentially on a rise

You know the culture that we've established here over the last three years is definitely on the right trajectory and the guys like Micah high Jordan poy a Tremaine Edmonds, Tredavious White, Josh Allen, those guys are going to take the reins of, you know, the absence of me as far as leadership. And this team is going to take a next step. We got $90 million that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott have at their disposal this offseason. And they've been very smart just looking at the history of the guys that they've identified as obviously great football players, but then great leaders that they can bring in here and then add to what they have. And so and include the draft.

I think those guys are going to do a great job. And this football team is going to take the next step because they're really starting to hit their prime. You know, Josh and Jermaine going into their third year, really be starting to solidify themselves as from middle range players to now stepping to that elite, that elite level, kind of like what your Davis did this year, playing corner. So it's a lot of promise. And I haven't even mentioned Devin Singletary and what he brings to the table.

So it's going to be a big time. I think next year they get a home, a home playoff game and make a run. And the Patriots are potentially dead. So that's just what happened. so Lorenzo congratulations on your retirement and every time we have you on the show I'm nothing short of impressed you're gonna do great things thank you so much for joining us all right Pat appreciate you guys Lorenzo Alexander 15 years linebacker in the NFL sorry to interrupt I just want to let you know that hey new year new opportunities flipping the calendar creates endless possibilities new and exciting things Sorry to interrupt. I just want to let you know that, hey, new year, new opportunities. Flipping

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hey let's get to stupid questions i've been asked by sports shows you got it let's do that brand new segment that we started a couple weeks ago because we are a sports show and other sports shows ask questions that we should probably ask but it's very difficult to take them serious whenever the questions are as such mr tone dicks this question is being asked the last few days on a couple shows who would you draft number one tuaua or Burrow yeah this is a wild question because I understand that going into the year the tank for Tua situation was a real situation I mean that was a real conversation Tua was this guy who came into Alabama was able to drop a ball into a bucket with his off hand remember he's a righty his dad forced him to be a lefty and he was able to pick apart defenses in the SEC something that Alabama didn't always do

Alabama normally relied on the running back their offensive line and good defense and then Tua gets in there wins a national championship by picking people apart and he was this proto style quarterback where he could sit back in the pocket he looked good and he could really dissect defenses and all these things top prospect everybody's eyes nobody even knew who joe burrow was we talked to todd mcshay todd mcshay said joe burrow was probably a fifth round six round pick going into this last season so whenever tua yet again has another injury with his hip and his ankle and he's had three surgeries in two years and you watch this joe burrow growth in an nfl offensive system like they had with joe br Brady as his offensive coordinator,

to think that you would still take an injured Tua who says he's going to be healthy by April, but do we know, over a guy who has one of the hottest heaters right now in the history of sports, who already has an NFL offense, who has grown from 16 touchdowns to 60 touchdowns in one particular year, to say that you would take Tua over Joe Burrow would be a very dumb thing, but I do believe Tua, with one year of, you know, rest, one year of rehab, one year of maybe learning behind a veteran quarterback, could still be a very, very good NFL quarterback. But there's no way a GM right now could pick Tua over Joe Burrow because if Tua gets hurt, that GM is immediately fired

because everybody in the fan base, everybody in the organization would say, well, no, doy, dummy. So that's a dumb question, I think. But I like the fact that it spurs conversation. I just think Joe Burrow is the obvious answer there. He's earned it. And will the Cincinnati Bengals mess it up? Maybe. Carolina Panthers hire his offensive coordinator. Now everybody's like, are the Carolina Panthers in play to make a play for Joe Burrow? If the Cincinnati Bengals mess this layup up, mess up this alley-oop, if they LeBron James that thing off the side of the rim and they decide to trade out of there and not get a new franchise player,

a new face of the team, an Ohio kid that looks like he would love that opportunity, if they end up trading out of there to get more picks and let somebody else pick him up they are going to look stupid but i think that's what bangles fans have come to expect of the bangles organization i just don't think there's any chance they do it but if any team was to do it the cincinnati bangles or the detroit lions now people would say this is driving the price up on Burrow, but Bengals coaches are already talking that Burrow checks all the boxes. Yes, he checks all the boxes, and he's from Ohio,

which is just a whole other level for Ohioans, I would assume. And the fact that the Athens County food drive, and he's already a hero to the state. He's on this incredible heater. He smokes cigars. He's Midwestern. I mean, it's just he's everything that you would want if you're the cincinnati bangles organization but look for teams to try to bait the dum-dums at the bangles out of that situation to make a mistake and potentially miss out on a

franchise player also look for a lot of smoke screens from teams that are behind in the draft to build up tua to be better than jo Joe Burrow just in an attempt to hopefully persuade the Bengals to build up to a there's a lot of smoke screen there's a lot of misdirection there's a lot of teams that are hoping to make other people make other decisions it's a lot of chess a lot of poker a lot of setup I think Joe Burrow is just the perfect candidate for the Cincinnati Bengals this is just like when Andrew Luck was taking visits. He was at the Colts. He took a visit to the Colts before the draft, and I happened to see him there. And West Virginia is our tie. His dad was the athletic director at West Virginia at the time. He knew a lot about Morgantown and all that stuff. So he knew who I was, and obviously,

I knew who he was. And I was in the training room, and he walked in. He was meeting everybody. I was like, Andrew, what's up, man? Your life's got to be pretty hectic. He was meeting everybody i was like andrew what's up man your life's gotta be pretty hectic he was like yeah i gotta go to the washington redskins tomorrow whatever and i was like why like have we not already told you we're drafting he was like uh well i have to take all the visits pad i was like yeah well if we don't draft this guy i mean we're making a mistake and he couldn't say anything but it was still like he had to do all his you know his visits and things like that there's stuff that's going to start happening that's going to come out about how good Tua is and all this stuff. They're going to be trying to persuade the Bengals

that for some reason to take Tua instead of Joe Burrow. And honestly, if the Bengals mess this up, if the Bengals trade out of there and let another team get Joe Burrow, I will love it. I will absolutely love it because it gives us a lot to talk about but Bengals fans

wouldn't deserve it I think Joe Burrow is obviously number one you want a dumb take yeah a team that could do it and has the ammo to do it Jacksonville

they have two first round picks from LA in this year and next year's draft so they have four first round picks in the next two years the Jacksonville wouldn't be dumb to do that

I don't think Jacksonville the Bengals would be the ones that would be dumb to do that the Bengals not having a franchise player I mean Andy dalton got a lot of wins for the bangles the bangles won a lot of games people forget that the bangles in not so far history right like i think like four years ago five years ago they'd win like 11 games 10 games they were in playoffs they were doing all these things they just never got over the hump then it obviously all just started to spiral out

of control a lot of bangles fans say that marvin lewis doesn't get enough credit by the way for winning he won a lot in the regular season they had a lot of players though too i mean they had a lot of good players you remember hushman zada back in the day and ocho and holy carson palmer was there and they had a good offensive line there for a while. They were just never able to get over the hump. And now, after this last year, whenever they were trying to win and they just couldn't do it, a lot of people ask the question of, the Bengals stink. Are they going to stink forever?

If they trade out of that first pick and choose not to get their franchise player, I would say that they're destined to stink forever. The first five years that Dalton was there, they had nine wins, ten wins, eleven wins, ten wins, and twelve wins. Dalton doesn't get any credit either. Because he obviously has that delicious ginger hair that quite a grow-up,

whenever he doesn't get any credit for being a good football player, got benched this year on trade day, on his birthday, then gets brought back, wins a game, loses a game. I mean, Andy Dalton doesn't get nearly enough credit as well, but the Bengals have never been able to win that thing. Would anything short of winning a Super Bowl be a failure for Patrick Mahomes?

What a dumb question. Every team that doesn't win the Super Bowl feels as if the season is a failure. The only reason you are playing in the NFL is to win the Super Bowl. Every single season, everybody starts at the bottom of the mountain, and they're trying to make it to the top of the mountain. Whether you don't make the playoffs or you end up losing in the playoffs, it's the same outcome for every team but one, which is a disappointment.

Patrick Williams is in his third season, second year playing. If he doesn't win the Super Bowl now, let's assume he's going to win it within the next couple years. But yes, it is a failure if you don't win the Super Bowl every single year. That is just what it is.

You look at the Miami Dolphins. Their front office was getting rid of people that they didn't think fit, and the idea was tank for two. But Flores had those boys ready to go and try to win a Super Bowl every single week. That's just how the game. You play to win the game. Yes, it's a failure if you don't win the Super Bowl, especially with this team. You know what it was last year too?

A failure that they didn't win the Super Bowl, especially with this team. You know what it was last year, too? A failure that they didn't win the Super Bowl. That's just the way it goes. But Patrick Mahomes, only in his second year, he's about to sign for $200 million. If he doesn't win the Super Bowl, it's a failure. Just like it's a failure for Dustin Colquitt, the punter for the team that they didn't win the Super Bowl. This is my favorite one. Will Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks come back next season primed for a Super Bowl run? Nope.

They're going to stink next year. Russell Wilson has decided right now that next year they're not going to be primed for a Super Bowl run. Could you imagine writing that question and being like, you know what, let's talk about this. Are the Seattle Seahawks going to be primed for a Super Bowl run next year? Every team thinks they're primed for a Super Bowl run. We talked to Joe Thomas.

Joe Thomas didn't play in one single playoff game. He's considered one of the greatest offensive linemen of all time. The greatest offensive lineman of all time. Didn't play in a playoff game one time. Was almost defeated every single game that he lined up in. And he said every single year he had the mindset that they were going to win the Super Bowl that year. Because that's what the NFL is. The NFL is a group of men who are played to play professional football, who are very good at their jobs, who have a coach that rallies them. And in training camp, you buy into this belief that you're going to be a good team because you have to, because you're surrounded by a bunch of great football players. Some teams get it done.

Most teams don't. But yes, they're obviously primed for a Super Bowl run. And if they say no, imagine somebody who's like, nope, next year they're going to stink. Russell Wilson is going to forget how to throw the ball when he's outside the pocket. Tyler Lockett is going to forget how to run fast. Marshawn Lynch won't be on the team anymore. That defense that has Jadavion Clowney who's just a disruptor who doesn't pick up a bunch of stats, he's going to stink next year.

And Pete Carroll is going to stop chewing gum. They have no chance of winning the Super Bowl next year. Imagine somebody said it. Those are dumb questions that are asked on sports shows. I appreciate you, Dick. All right, I hope you, Dick. All right. I hope you guys had an incredible week. Very, very, very thankful that you choose to listen to us week in and week out.

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