The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1557 - Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Quentin Richardson, Jordan Agbanoma Makes His College Commitment, Erik Johnson, Brandt Snedeker, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk and the boys recap last night’s incredible game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals that saw the Knicks storm back from down 22 points in the 4th quarter, chat about t...he Rashee Rice news, preview tonight’s Western Conference Finals game 2, and game 1 of the Western Conference Finals in the NHL. They are also loaded with guests today including ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter; ESPN Senior NBA Insider, Shams Charania; 13 year NBA veteran, ESPN NBA analyst, former 3 point contest champion, Quentin Richardson; 4 star interior OL from Georgia, Jordan Agbanoma makes his college commitment; 18 year NHL veteran, Stanley Cup Champion, and ESPN NHL analyst Erik Johnson; and lastly, the Captain of the US President’s Cup team, 10x winner on the PGA Tour, 2012 FedEX Cup winner, Brandt Snedeker. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Western Conference Finals Wednesday, May 20th, 20th, 26th. This sports program begins now. Sports! Bar the absolute greatest, another overtime thriller in the garden. Was it rest? Was it rust? Was it a little bit of both? And were the New York Knicks doing something so electrifying in the mecca that made us all say, okay, good on you, Timothy Chalamey, who had an interview at halftime, and he was
Starting point is 00:00:30 asked what the Knicks need to do to clean it up as the Cavs seemingly were going to be walking out of New York up 1-0 in the Eastern Conference Finals. Timothy Shawmay said we're a little rusty. We're going to have it to clean it. We'll get it, though, no problem. They certainly did in the fourth quarter. They did some historic, statistical shit. They were down 22 in the fourth quarter. They come back and win. There's some stats going on about a amount of points run and how they're doing what, 40 to 11. I think it was 33 to 8, 22 to 4 runs late down the stretch. And it's like Jalen Brunson did what Jalen Brunson has done to basically everybody just down the stretch in a big way that saw all of New York City celebrate a massive epic comeback. Now, I'm being told James Hardin is a problem.
Starting point is 00:01:13 There's a lot of stats. My eyes were kind of telling me that too. I mean, every single one these highlight. They ran 21 pick and rolls, I guess, to get James Hardin onto the ball. And then they seemingly cooked James Hardin. Even when James Hardin was maybe shifted, that one, he's just got obviously makes it. I mean, everything was spot. in for the Knicks, and they were seemingly all falling in James Hardin's face. Once again, I am a James Hardin fan, but then I opened my phone up and my Algo just said, hey, look at this stat, James Hardin's ass. Look at this stat. James Hardin's ass. They're directly designing plays to go after James Hardin. The coach of the Knicks afterwards
Starting point is 00:01:44 would say, me and Steve Kerr, you know, the guy just signed the extensions, won a bunch of titles, is the middle of the dynasty, one of the best coaches of all time. When we're at Golden State, we actually were like, hey, let's just count the amount of dribbles at James Hardin. He got thousand dribbles tonight. That is what we're looking for. He was attacking him on the offensive side, saying this guy is what we're looking at. And then on the defensive side, your eyes are like, well, James Harden, the beard's getting kind of just not even seemingly working. And then the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers comes out after the game and says this. No, listen, he's been one of our best defenders in these play-to-playoffs.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I trust them, you know, smart, great hands. Didn't think about that. So what the hell do we know? That guy's a basketball coach. He has a team in the Eastern Conference Finals. Let's assume he knows more basketball than I do. but everybody's telling me it's James Hardin's fault down the stretch and really getting cooked and the New York Knicks were taking advantage of it
Starting point is 00:02:29 and every shot was falling in the comeback kids over there for the New York Knicks do it again they're up 1-0 in the Eastern Conference everything's alive and James Hardin's getting cooked on the internet yet again and then Coach Brown's coming out talking about his offense game it's like are the Cavs going to answer Donovan Mitchell there's some stats coming out about him I don't like him I guess Donner he has the most I don't I'm not even saying No you got to say it you don't like the step
Starting point is 00:02:54 that is. Is it important a stat? I don't like the I'm the messenger of this. You know, now that I'm an NHL insider, I'm going to have to realize that sometimes the messenger takes a little bit heat. Sure. We were handed a stat about Donovan Mitchell and I don't like this. Remember, first time nine years, Cleveland Cavaliers, Donovan Mitchell there, okay, in the Eastern Conference Final. This is a huge deal.
Starting point is 00:03:10 We are big fans of Spider. He has an array of ways to get to the bucket, as Eam-Shumper said. He is certainly spectacular, but I guess in the playoffs, he is being associated with the staff, but it is a team thing. I guess he has, like, the most 20-point playoff collapses like over the last 30 season.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Whoa. You know, that one in the fourth quarter. They're saying the odds were like 0.1%. The odds on Sportsbook got all the way up to, I think, plus 8,000. Our guy in the back, Bruce Brown, diehard Knicks fan, got it at plus 6,000 in real time. You don't get those types of odds on live bets unless the team has absolutely no chance. Bruce, you saw a winner there? What did you see?
Starting point is 00:03:47 The bucket was getting bigger. The boys were buzzing. The rust was off. What did you see down the stretch from your Knicks team? That makes you go, hold the phone. The boys are back in. time. I believe it was 9376. Brunson had just hit a three and had that look in his eyes, just that stone cold killer look. And I saw Donovan Mitchell kind of smirking. And I think that he
Starting point is 00:04:09 talked postgame about maybe it was a little complacency, maybe it was a little bit of the tired legs. But it just felt like one of those magic nights might be on the way at the garden. And, you know, I mean, Jalen just, he basically played the perfect game for the final. eight minutes of the fourth quarter and then into O.T. He truly is a godsend to New York sports. And, I mean, it's just unbelievable, man. I can't believe that we are here with the Knicks up a game in the Eastern Conference Finals with this fucking guy just with the entire city on his back. It's unbelievable. And he seems to be the right guy for it. You know, there's a couple moments where he's walking by
Starting point is 00:04:48 himself. I'm like, I wonder who he's looking at because everybody in the arena is looking at him as he's walking around everywhere. And he's seemingly still above it. not lost in it, but respects it all. And he's the king of the city. Yeah. I know Aaron Judge, obviously all rise, but the Mets exist. Jalen Brunson, the king of the city. You know?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. That isn't right now, for sure. No, but if he was to win. Oh, absolutely. I think that's the big thing, though. They might put a statue of his ass on top of Madison Square guard. Yeah, in shrine. They might put him right on top of that thing,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and it feels like he's the perfect guy for it. And remember, he is not 5'4. No. Okay? I learned that at upfronts. I got a chance to see it. Because whenever he's amongst his peers, he doesn't look anywhere near as tall. And then he made him, you're like, oh, yeah, these guys are all carnival-sized.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I forgot that the people he's standing next to are actually seven-foot-one or whatever. He's 6-3, 6-4. I mean, he's big guy. Unbelievable tough. He makes every clutch shot. Doesn't seem to blink. It doesn't seem like the perfect guy for New York. Congrats to you guys over there in New York getting a huge win.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Into us, as sports fans, getting an opportunity to watch that along. ESPN Analytics now. on Monday night football, they'll tell you to go for it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They'll also tell you 0.1% chance of winning whenever you're down that much. Never. It is, the stats are outrageous, 600 and some plus times this situation has happened in the past.
Starting point is 00:06:06 No team has ever won. And now it's kind of start spreading. The cabs left yesterday. Are they going to get swept by? I think so. New York. New York. I think.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They were up 22 and the fourth. That was it. That was it. It felt like they had them, right? Because Jalen Brunce had been doing Disney up front. I mean, he's been eating at Emilio's diner. He's stopping by Carbone ZZ's club. He's king.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He's king of the time. If they don't change your defensive plan, then yeah, you're probably right. Ackins is not changing. Once again, that man is a NBA basketball coach. We don't have to ask you, Richmore, about how the hell this happened. That guy has forgot more about basketball than I ever have. And I understand those people on the internet that know a lot of hoops and have dedicated their entire lives to hoops. His guy is an NBA coach. So at some point he had a reason for whatever he was doing,
Starting point is 00:07:04 but it looked like there was a pretty obvious thing happening. And then whenever he was asked about it afterwards, he's like, nah, you guys, don't, you're one of our best guys. What? How's that happened? I feel like that's not the case. Or maybe he's just trying to gas up his guy. Yeah. Maybe he's trying to coach him up because he knows that James Hardin's about to hear from everybody about the colossal collapse that just took place. Donovan Mitchell has to feel that. He grew up in the area. I guess he is a local, him walking back at Madison Square Garden afterwards just all by himself in a tiny little hallway. You know, Spite is doing all this shit in front of the Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:07:34 The place going crazy, he's from there. In the walkout afterwards, there's a little POV camera up in the corner, like a security camera that the TV people now have, which is good. I think you get it. It's just him in a tiny back hallway, head down, just walking, understanding what's going to be said about him, what just happened, the opportunity that they just missed, and how this potentially changes everything going forward for their entire season. It is a wild thing this sports is, and we can't wait for game two. Yeah, legit. Speaking of huge nights, talks at table at bus, Connor at Ty Schmidt, one half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Cowboys AP Ton is here. Conman, Western Conference finals tonight, both in NBA and NHL. Game two for the alien versus the back-to-back MVP. Game one for maybe the greatest hockey team of all time. Colorado taking on a Vegas Golden Knight Squad that has kind of, you know, been buzzing since Torts became a head coach. yesterday had some breaking news. Pretty shocking as well. As an NHL insider, I had some breaking news yesterday about the penalty for coach
Starting point is 00:08:32 Torts after a game six Anaheim win where they decided to do no media and just get to a plane and leave. He was fined personally $100,000 and they were stripped of his second round draft pick. There was an appeal that was heard in New York in front of the commissioner of the NHL, Gary Bettman, and the penalties were upheld basically after the same exact penalties. will be assessed. $100,000 second round pick cannot be a precedent that we want to set with the media. But towards potentially, said, I don't care about any
Starting point is 00:08:58 of it. I would like the boys in this change room to understand that I am on your side. There was a chance that he walked into that change room after that game and said, we're not talking to any of these motherfuckers. They've been against us since the beginning. They doubted you, they doubt me, they doubt all of us. Why are we going to think about missing an air time
Starting point is 00:09:15 for these people? Let's get out of here. And the boys in the change room, really? We can do that? We're about it. Yeah, let's go. Here we're fucking goalboy. Exactly. There's a chance that this Las Vegas Golden Knights bunker mentality that is certainly only to get stronger and stronger
Starting point is 00:09:28 as more people keep talking about how much they hate them. There's a chance that they're the right group with the star power, with kind of the aura, the moxie, and the reason to take on this avalanche team that people are saying greatest of all time. New breaking news. This is from the Fridge. Elliot Friedman up there in Canada. Jared Bednar has announced that Cal McCar.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Whoa. That's big news. Whoa! Won't play game one. officially listed as day-to-day. Now, remember, hockey doesn't tell us anything about any injuries. Okay, hockey just doesn't do that. They have a funny way of describing things.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like, this guy has an upper body. What does that mean? Upper boy, he'll play, maybe. And then it comes out after they lose. What was his upper body? His spine was fracture in like four spots. They actually had to lift him up and shoe him onto the ice for him to do that. So from a car to miss anything, especially at this stage of the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:10:15 this has to be a very, very serious injury. That changes a lot of things, obviously, in that particular game. Ty, are you excited about what the Golden Knights could potentially pull off tonight? Yeah, and I like the point you're making about everything that's kind of happening with the Golden Knights. I mean, I don't watch every single game throughout the season. We've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 They drop the puck very late, so it's hard. But I'll check box scores, but going from Paternity where I was up no matter what, so I was watching all these games. Like, I'm completely back, completely invested, and they are fun to watch. But then I walked in this morning and I looked at, you know, the scroll going across, and it's like, wow, the avalanche of one, 53 games. There's a reason everyone's saying this might be the best team ever. But then you add all this stuff where everyone's kind of shitting on the Golden Knights,
Starting point is 00:10:58 shitting on torts. If there's an opportunity to add a chip on the shoulder inside there, like I absolutely love that. And like you mentioned, Kail McCar is obviously unbelievable. This type of injury you would assume is going to be something that lingers throughout this entire series because he's not going to miss a game of this magnitude. I mean, we've heard guys. having really high temperatures being super sick, they go out there and play.
Starting point is 00:11:22 So something is really going on here. And now if you're the Golden Knights, you have to capitalize on the road tonight. Yeah, we just literally saw T2, C2, see whatever, come out of a guy from Anaheim that was playing. What do you have? Oh, he had like two bulges in his neck. He had broken neck to this guy. Who? The guy that was playing.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. Score a couple goals as well. One of their stars. That like happens in hockey. So for him to miss a game, I think this is a gigantic deal. It used to be what it was like for like offense alignment to go down on a field. Like offense alignment never go down on a field. That is just like never a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Not a lot. You break something. You get up and you get your ass. That's what the old kind of mantra used to be. It certainly evolved with science in us learning what these injuries could potentially be and how much more you could affect that obviously. Hockey is never adjusted. Hockey's a big like if, hey, if you can stand on your skates, you get out there, Paul.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Better move. You skate. Get your gloves on, Ludd. Oh, you're better. You know, he's got a fractured skull? Okay. Okay. Oh, you're not going to play.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He was on the ice this morning testing it. Okay, so he was, yeah, I don't know if he's skating. He said he was on the ice. I don't know if he's on the ice and crutches or on the ice and skates, probably skates. But then the decision was made after that to not go. Okay, so we shall see how it plays out. Could the Golden Knights steal one here against the Colorado avalanche up there in Colorado? Going to be electrifying.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Who's going to be hitting the avalancheer? That's a good question. Hornell? That's the, I don't know if Horno is going to be able to make it. Horno will be joining us, though, here in a little bit. Joe Strait. About what he expects from the Avalanche as they host the Golden Knights here in the Western Conference final, game one. And then game two of the Western Conference NBA finals, game one obviously lived up to the hype immensely.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I mean, just absolutely, we got extra free basketball. Wembe goes absolutely crazy. SGA and the lads have to battle in front of their home court crowd, which is one of the greatest in all of sport. everything that could happen that was awesome did happen, including a pull-up from Wembe from the logo when it was his first time shooting a three all night, basically, as he was living into paint. It was a spectacular game one.
Starting point is 00:13:27 What does this game two have, though? Does SGA answer? He got double-teamed in a big way. Yes, it did. Let Caruso kind of be wide-ass open. Caruso goes for 30. He started hitting everything. Again, on Christmas Day against the spurs,
Starting point is 00:13:40 Caruso didn't hit his main shots, So I think Caruso and the team understood that he was probably going to be left wide open here from the San Antonio Spurs. And he goes crazy. And he just starts hitting. Well, that happened again. Will more guys have to hit? Or will Wemby just decide that this one's just like a hockey goalie? This one's going to be won by us.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This is how this is going to go. He doesn't get as much fouling trouble as I would have expected for Wemby. And I think it's because they don't want to call it while he's getting attacked. But he does a lot of bumping as well. There's a lot of physicality with the way Wemby plays. I appreciate the officials, hopefully kind of letting them play. But if there's a couple early whistles, I think, on Wembe, this entire game really changes. And if that was to happen, people are going to get real loud.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Because watching this alien do his thing, especially taking on a team in the middle of the dynasty. And not just the alien, the players around it, young, confident, hard work, feels like they do all the miserable stuff. They're an incredible taking on a dynasty. It is a special matchup that we could have here tonight, as long as everything goes, smooth. Comment, do you know who the ref is and what are your expectations for tonight? As we look to gamble, as we all hit on the San Antonio Spurs in game one. Yeah, hopefully we kind of carry that in. I believe Tony Brothers will be the ref for game two. What does that mean? What is that? Do we know the stats for that?
Starting point is 00:14:56 I know there are some players that are, like Chris Paul would never won with Tony Brothers, right? They fought each other. Scott Foster. Scott Foster. But yes, like there are those types of stats. It does feel as though Tony Brothers, who I believe you had a good back and forth with. Yeah. A lot of moxie. Yeah, a lot of moxie. It feels as though he has could feel for the game. Hopefully we don't get into some sort of Wembe or even like Holmgren or somebody on their team SGA getting two, three fouls in the first quarter because that would rob us of what this has been so far one game into it. He is the entire series, this does feel like the finals. And last night was great only for about four minutes, you know, once the Knicks made that first
Starting point is 00:15:32 half of their run, they went on the 18 and one run you mentioned to kind of get it within eight and then it became a better game, but that was only the last quarter. It does seem as though this one is going to be a seven game series that hopefully every single one's a banger. The Chet Holmgren conversation about him and Wemby battling, fascinating, especially if we talk about fouls and how this could go. I hope they let him play. Wemby good at this, though.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, I looked, because you got me interested when you said it's like, is he going to get in foul trouble or whatever? I looked up. He has fouled out zero times this year. I don't know because nobody ever goes into his body because they're so afraid of getting blocked. So he's like, he's never getting body fouls. And then he's so good, I mean, he's so far up there that he's never,
Starting point is 00:16:13 like he's never getting anyone's wrists or anything like that because it's just him and the ball up there. And there's a chance, though, that like they don't really call anything against him either. Yeah. So they don't really know how to ref them. Yeah. There's a chance that they have no. Because on those swats and blocks that people try, hands get hit, Nate, you know? And like, bodies touch and they call it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And he's up on every one of them. I mean, they have three point shot, layup, mid-range. He's up on everything. He's damn near at absolutely everything. So I assume it has been a thing. But let's just act like this continues. Him and Chet, maybe if Chet's there.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah, need that tonight. Yeah. Chet knows. Chet has been listening. He better know. It's been loud. Chet has been listening. He understands.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, you would hope Holmgren does kind of show up, especially after everyone's like, hey, why the hell is the 6-4 guy, and the 7-5 guy that doesn't make any sense. I think the biggest worry just kind of outside looking in would be all the guys for the spurs played the most minutes they've ever played buy a lot. And for some reason, the NBA, which we can appreciate, but isn't giving them those
Starting point is 00:17:11 couple days in between instead of they're doing every other night, which is awesome. But also, you would think maybe we give these guys another extra nice for us. But they're all under 25. We saw the stats of the youngest starting five from the entire NBA history, yeah, 22 years and 346 days is the average. So hopefully those young legs kind of step it up. But it's hard to imagine O.K.C. just laying down. You would assume that they have something. playing but who knows if alice crusoe's guard wemby tonight it's going to be hard not to bet wemby to have 35 points again yeah well
Starting point is 00:17:43 if chet's guard in wendy it's going to be hard not to bet that's what we understand with wendy and did you see the video that i saw flow around here now about check getting a little playing a little flutzy? Yeah that's ridiculous he's playing a little footsie with him there is that a little game for ship how often does that happen because i remember gracing what was his name allen
Starting point is 00:17:59 yeah graysan allen yeah this was his kind of tom for yeah everybody he's like that guy he was a tripper yeah draymond green uh this would equate, I think, to two bows. I think Wembe is allowed two swinging elbows. Whether they hit Chet or not, that's kind of up to Wembe and his accuracy. But that is the most scumbag thing I think we've seen in the playoffs so far. I mean, just to slow them down, just a tiny little bit, you can absolutely do that.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Allegedly there is a, like a magnet, like there's a positive side and a negative side. Really good at sticking, but whenever they see the same, that's what happens with. Chet Wemby walk into each other. I think it's what, Hancock? They're supposed to hate each other. Oh, yeah. Yeah, their powers dwindle as they come closer together. And look at us.
Starting point is 00:18:46 We get to watch this for the next 50s. Go on, massive lads. Go on. We appreciate you. I know it's probably uncomfortable to have to do this, but like, hey, good luck out there. Let's pivot away from the NBA, and let's go to an uncomfortable conversation.
Starting point is 00:18:59 There's a wide receiver that is about to be serving 30 days in jail for an incident that happened on a highway over a year ago. and joining us now to give us more information on what's happening with the Chiefs and Rishi Rice, senior NFL insider DSPN, Adam Schaefter. Yeah, Jeffty. Yeah, you look cool right there. But it's a Pacer shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I like that. Hello, gentlemen, what's going on? Yeah, okay, shout out the Pacers. Yeah, hey. All right, shout out the Pacers. I don't know how you're wearing that, but I appreciate that. Just to remind the Knicks, right? Is that what you're doing here?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Well, it was a year ago where the Pacers came back at that big comeback late in the fourth quarter of game one of the Eastern Conference Piles at Madison Square Garden. and a year later, the New York Knicks have a big comeback in the first game of the Eastern Conference Falls at Madison Square Garden. The Knicks weren't going to rebound from that last year, and I don't think that the Cavaliers will bounce back from that this year. Okay, so I appreciate you giving an NBA takes, but I'd also like to speak for the Pacers organization to the Nick. You're welcome to the Knicks fans. Yeah, congratulations. We kind of gave this to you guys, was what we did last year. The experience does show late in these games, those battles against the Pacers do help out.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And it keeps, you know, top of mind that no matter what the score is, you have a chance to come back and win that game. Yeah, down 20 plus and a fourth, you could probably give up. And some teams might mail it in. Instead, the horror in New York City, New York Gritty City kind of came out there and got a huge job. Let's move to the NFL. I alluded to it there. There's a 30-day prison sentence that is happening for Rishie Rice. There was a deferred probation for a certain amount of years, which we looked it up where basically the deferred probation.
Starting point is 00:20:36 is a five-year period where as long as you are good in your probation, the charge will kind of just be wiped from your record, I think. There won't be any more punishment. You kind of move forward. But if in that five-year deferred probation period, you fail anything in your probation, you are then to serve your sentence that was to be given. So in this one, you can correct me if I'm wrong, Schefter,
Starting point is 00:20:59 but I've had some friends that have had DUI situations with this, where they've had certain probation periods, where they couldn't do anything. If they did, then the entire sentence would be, can you explain how we got to this? Did the chiefs know that he was going to be doing 30 days in jail? Did we know this? How long did he know that it was going to be happening?
Starting point is 00:21:16 Because you reported that he got surgery just a week before or within the last couple weeks, a cleanup of a knee, which you would certainly not want to be in jail for 30 days while fresh out of a surgery, it seems like. Can you kind of clarify all this for us, Schaefter, as we look at a situation that I don't think we've seen in a long time, right? This is certainly, okay, sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:21:38 There are a few different sides to this, and we'll present some of what we were told yesterday. But basically, as it was explained to me yesterday, obviously, he did not know that he was going to be going to jail for 30 days here. If he did, there's no way that he would have had the knee surgery that he did last week so that he'll be in jail, in a Dallas County jail, which he now is. He's currently in a jail cell in Dallas County jail coming off the knee surgery he had last week that'll sideline him two months. Now, that's two months normally with the attention and care and rehab that you're going to get. I don't know how this works where you undergo knee surgery and then you're in jail. Now, there was some sort of violation of his probation that had to have occurred recently or at least the judge found out about it. ruled on it and ordered him to serve his 30-day sentence in jail now. So he has been sentenced
Starting point is 00:22:42 to jail for 30 days here as part of the situation connected to the car crash that he was involved in where people were injured. We remember that incident a couple of off-seasons ago. It was supposed to be a five-year probationary period. The judge involved, do I understand it, is retiring here. He's an outgoing judge. And somehow Rishi Rice was ordered to serve the 30-day sentence now for a violation to his probation, which we assume was some sort of positive test for marijuana. Okay, so we're not 100% sure what the violation was, but it has been alluded to that it was a failed substance abuse test for your probation, which prohibits that also your profession. But obviously, I mean, he would be
Starting point is 00:23:34 Was there any alcohol or involved in that arrest or drugs involved in that arrest? So is he in the NFL's program? I wonder if he's in the NFL's program. Oh, I think he is. I think what I think what's going to happen here, unconfirmed, is
Starting point is 00:23:51 now he'll be re-entered into the NFL's drug program. But again, you remember in the last CBA, there are no suspensions discipline for marijuana. But you can be entering into the program and subject to other tests. Oh, yeah. The program is the worst.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Somebody that did 27 months in the program, okay? It is very, very restrictive, I will say. But once again, lucky to do it, lucky to have a job in the NFL, understand that it was me that put myself in the situation, probably saved my life. 27 months, a little bit of overkill. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Okay, we didn't need to do two years, three months. I thought that was a little bit too long. But you're getting tested eight times a month. I had to call the NFL a certain line and report where I was every time I left my home address. I had to give them two phone numbers they could reach me at. I had a.O. for sure. It was the NFL. And I was getting tested at 4 a.m. in Georgia after I want Bigfoot hunting out in the woods.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I was getting tested at 6.30 a.m. in Vegas. I was getting tested in Pittsburgh. I mean, I was 200 and some tests. 27 months. Damn. Clean. Because if you don't, guess what? You're in that thing.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Forever. And that's what they're trying to do. Once you get in there, they're trying to keep you in there forever. That's kind of the game. That's how I had to frame it. So I was going to beat these people because they wanted to keep me in there.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Now that led me down some dangerous roads, I think, you know. That was when like the spice conversations are happening and stuff like that because it won't show up. I can't be doing this. Is this what my life is? No way.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Bigfoot, dangerous. Bigfoot hunting. Yeah, crocodile hunting. I did all these things to try to figure out what life was without you know, smoking or boozing while every one of my friends was doing just that. So it was certainly a time in my life. And we hope there Rishi Rice, okay, figures it out, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:36 He might be watching this right now. We've been told from numerous people that have been in jail that they do run ESPN in jail. So there's a chance that Rishi is watching this right now from a jail cell, missing out on rehab on his knee. He might potentially alter his entire career and net worth because of this stupid shit. Okay. Rishie, let's go, bud. Hey, I think that's what everybody needs to say.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Go ahead. Ty and I talked about this this morning, right? Here's a guy when we see wide receiver salaries exploding across the league, and he's just about as good as any receiver in the league, and he's entering the last year of his contract. If we just took away all the off-the-field incidents, all the Michigas that comes along with it, then you'd be talking about a player right now. who would be getting an extension this offseason at somewhere between $35 and $40 million, I guess. And so now, instead of getting that extension, which isn't going to be coming anytime soon, he's going to be now in a jail cell,
Starting point is 00:26:44 rehabbing an injury, going into the last year of his contract without a new deal on the horizon. And it's really unfortunate. It's all there for him. Yeah, it's a sad story. It's a sad situation. It's like, hey, obviously you've put this upon yourself and everything,
Starting point is 00:27:01 but hopefully able to figure it out and move forward. And then just from the football standpoint, looking at the Chiefs, I mean, he's going to be another month behind on recovery. Yeah. Okay, because there's no way they were able to put together a prison plan for coming out of the knee. Probably not. I don't know if they're going to be able to get, what's up, dogy. What's up, dog?
Starting point is 00:27:17 You just stopped by. Good to see a dog popping into Schefters. So let's assume there's a chance they're going to have to clean that up again, okay? Because that was a cleanup surgery. which means they wanted to eliminate some stiffness, probably some scar tissue stuff, whatever the case is, there was some loose stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:30 If you don't rehab that fully, you might have to refix that again. So let's just assume that's going to set them back again. It was loose cartilage. It was a debreedment. And obviously, you wouldn't have fun when you did if you were going to jail the next week for 30 days.
Starting point is 00:27:46 All right. Well, hopefully, Rishi figures it out. Come on, Rishie. Come on, Rish. Come on, Rish. Yeah, maybe there's physical therapists in there. Maybe. And they just run through it.
Starting point is 00:27:56 They do the towels or the sheets for the, because there's a lot of band work on the knee, you know, to build full flexibility and strength in the quad. Because you're going to activate the quad. Anytime the knee goes, probably because the quad goes. But there's also, you know, the inside with the drop and the outside. So you got to do this number, and this number, in this number, and then we're going to rub that thing down so you don't have any scar tissue.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's going to be the most painful thing about that. It's an indictment. Chiefsaholic might be in there and say, don't you worry. We don't know. Is Chiefsaholic in that? Alice, I'm not... He might have been Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Oklahoma, multiple states. Yeah. I believe he's in a maximum security facility as well. I don't know if he rises. All right, let's move off of this particular subject. Let's move to Nashville, Tennessee. Hosting in Super Bowl, this is a big deal. Obviously, it could be cold.
Starting point is 00:28:42 We chit-chated about that. But now all of a sudden there's this conversation about hotel rooms. And Nashville has been a destination city for as long as that I've known it. People travel in there for Bachelor, Bachelorette parties, birthday parties, just good time because everything there, seemingly has live music that's at the top of the class, and then bars that are very open and a hospitable group of people
Starting point is 00:29:01 that are welcome you into a city of good time. So I think there'll be a great host for the Super Bowl. What is the hotel room? We looked this up. When the Colts got the Super Bowl, they built multiple hotels here in Indiana. We are a hosting city, but the J.W. Marriott one up.
Starting point is 00:29:17 We looked it up. They probably have like 400 to 700 hotel rooms. They have 1,000. 400 to 700 is what is considered a large hotel. Okay, so 1,000, hotel rooms the J.W. Mary I put in. So we, there was a reason that that had a thousand rooms because of the Super Bowl implications. What does Nashville need to do? How quickly do they need to do that? And is this going to become part of the rotation like Jim Nance, who I did not know lives in
Starting point is 00:29:39 Nashville, spoke about saying that he expects Nashville to become a rotational Super Bowl City because of how great they are at hosting things, which I would like to say every time they've hosted me, I've had a great time. Me too. I don't know about events, but every time I've been there, it's been a blast. Go ahead, Chefty. Well, Pat, you are a forced, no doubt, but hosting you and hosting a Super Bowl with all the people that come along with it is a different experience.
Starting point is 00:30:04 There's just a lot more of me. That's why everybody's having their own experience, you know, and as long as there's a hotel room for me to sleep in, I think that's what everybody's saying, we're going to be A-OK, but that is the big question, right? How many do you need for the Super Bowl and for the NFL to feel comfortable? Well,
Starting point is 00:30:20 we did the draft there. And the draft went off without a hitch. And I think that was an event that helped put Nashville on the map with the NFL and help the draft turn into what it is today and help lead to the Super Bowl coming back to Nashville one day. Obviously, the new stadium really does the trick because if you build it, they will come. And that's what the NFL is doing right now. I was in Nashville a few weeks ago. And it feels like there are a whole lot of other added new hotels there. right now. They've added on, I would imagine, there'll be more built by the time the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:30:57 comes there. And they feel like they have the necessary space to get this done. Otherwise, the league wouldn't have done it. So Nashville's going to pull it off. That city is grown so much and added so much. And so it's going to house the Super Bowl 2030. Regular rotation. That's interesting. That I haven't heard. Jim Nance was pushing it as a citizen of Nashville. I think he was speaking for the city, I believe he's what he was saying. If it goes off great, then obviously I think it'll be discussed. There's going to be a lot of people that are going to want in the Super Bowl game.
Starting point is 00:31:30 We talked about Washington getting a new stadium. I think once Washington gets a new stadium, I would bet Washington gets a Super Bowl one day. Jim Nance, co-chair of the Super Bowl committee. Oh, okay, Jim. There you go. Right got to put in there. For sure. Yeah, right got to put in there.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Obviously, it worked. And the city of Nashville is phenomenal. So I assume it's going to go off without a hitch again. and I assume it is going to steal the show because so many of these suits probably that have never been into country music or whatever are going to travel down there for the first time and they're going to walk down Broadway
Starting point is 00:32:00 the next Riley Green's in there they said it's unbelievable Darius Ruckers performing on a balcony Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like that the amount of Blake Shelton will be on top of it. Is that a chair? Holy shit. Is Adele performing? Yeah, at a bar right over here it's like what is this? You walk in there
Starting point is 00:32:18 all the bartenders understand what's going on here? You guys are we having a good time here? Yeah, okay, let's go ahead and do this. Celebration everywhere. And I know this place isn't good. Next door. Yeah, we're all heading right here next door. And it's six floors tall.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Go to the fourth floor. That'll be the speakeasy floor. He's in the back room. Then go up on top, phone party. Okay, so the top floor is a phone party. Speak easy is this one. Third floor, sports bar. They've got a cosm thing in the back.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You're going to love it. And then the second floor just kind of honkitonk, you know, just kind of get in there and have your fun. Go ahead and climb. That's what Nashville is. It is outrageous how good of a time. It's only a matter of time right before. Can it continue to be all?
Starting point is 00:32:58 I know how much more everything reaches a certain point. You would think that it can continue, though. But at least got to be 100 years of that. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's kind of happening with Vegas right now. Like, that was Vegas for the longest time. And then now it's kind of like they're having a tough time getting people out there. And I think people are kind of going to Nashville for that Vegas type thing.
Starting point is 00:33:16 But they're in like the early stages of that. So, yeah, they probably do have a nice little shelf. here for the next several years, maybe even decades. Congratulations, too, Nashville. And we can't wait to get down there for that Super Bowl. But that Radio Row is going to be outrageous. Nuts. Yeah, it's going to be...
Starting point is 00:33:31 Can't stress enough how awesome the draft was down there. The other cities have been great, but Nashville's setup was by far the best one. I agree. I agree completely. Okay, last question before I let you get out of here, Schaefter. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Shafty, with Kansas City, maybe looking for wide receivers and some other teams, Washington.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I've seen some Raven stuff. where can we expect some of these guys to sign Tyree kills, Stefan Diggs, Keenan Allen, D. Hop, Dibow. When should we expect this and where should we expect the teams to be interested in? A lot of wide receivers sitting out there right now.
Starting point is 00:34:05 A lot of wide receivers looking for a new home. Oh, who's that? We got P-WA, yeah, that's it. That's it. By the way, like, I just I got the person calling me, can you see me now? I can't see you. Can you see me right?
Starting point is 00:34:19 right now. No, you're paused. It's pause. It's pause screen. You've got to get back into it. There you are. There is. Good work. Yep. Porky. Porky pig. That's what you said there about that person. It was pretty fantastic. It feels like it is somebody of importance, but they can't wait a little bit. If it was somebody of super duper importance
Starting point is 00:34:35 at the exact moment, you would certainly have walked away because you already had an out because we couldn't see you. Be well. Wide receivers, though. Wide receivers, though, in this market, there's a lot of big household names available in seemingly conversations about places that are looking for a wide out. including Kansas City now, obviously.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah, and I think some of these players, they'll be able to hand-pick their opportunities right before training camp, or maybe they wait a week or two into camp and wait to see if there's an injury. A lot of these guys haven't gotten the prices. They wanted to tie. Tyree Kill is an injury situation where he may not be ready until midway through the season. That may be a down-the-line thing. But at some point in, if and when the money's right for any of these players,
Starting point is 00:35:14 then they step in at that point in at that point in. But it hasn't happened yet. and there's certainly a lot of options out there at that receiver position right now for teams that are in the market. I don't know how many teams are in the market for a wide receiver right now. I guess the Chiefs may be looking to add one, maybe. June 1st will bring about the A.J. Brown trade. You see the list of the other guys.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Brandon Ayuk. I don't know. That's an interesting one. DeAndre Hopkins still out there. Ebo Sandel, I would think, be able to make some place for it. team, but I mean, these guys have been unbelievable in the league for a long time. Shout to sleep for cold, saying, maybe, you know, we lost
Starting point is 00:35:53 people and why don't we think about bringing in another one, especially with Alex Pierce having a surgery in two months behind, but Alex Pierce will be back healthy. Speaking of being back, Lamar Jackson, not first day of OTAs, storyworthy. How about Herbert? Is he also not at OTAs, but we saw him in the building in April? I think we saw Lamar in the building as well in Baltimore, but I guess not at a certain event.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Like, how should we judge these? Because I, former player, guys miss voluntary OTAs all the time back in the day for certain things, especially OGs. If we had a, maybe a charity event had to happen, or maybe family had something going on. They've been around the league for a long time. It's voluntary for a reason. Okay, this is voluntary for a reason. Young guys, back half of the roster, you are welcome. This is your time to kind of earn your spot in the building. You should be here. But there's always been like OGs that have missed some days. Now, Peyton Manning was there throughout the entirety of it, but he might have missed a couple things here or there.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Same thing with like Dallas and Gary, all the guys, but they were always there. I've heard some other places, the vets weren't even there until like a certain time where they all decided to go. That's kind of all evolved now that we see how much money they all make and everything is content worthy and we see where everybody's at all the time. Do you think more attention to this conversation has changed the way teams treat it or players treat it? And what should we make a big deal out of it? Because back in the day, none of this shit would have been a big deal. If he never came, that'd be a problem. But the voluntary part of it was always kind of like, hey, let's remember this shit is voluntary right now, especially for the OGs.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Well, that's the whole thing, is that there have been plenty of instances where players didn't show up at certain points. It never got the attention. But in the league itself right now, everything becomes headline-worthy. And Lamar Jackson was all the workouts before this, so he's not at the OTAs that started, but he was going through the off-season workout program, which he hadn't done before. So that's a big deal. Now, if he stays away the entire off-season program, he's away during OTAs, which he hadn't been. He'd already been in attendance way.
Starting point is 00:37:46 more than he had been in any other off-season. So maybe he just feels like, okay, I've picked up where I feel like I need to pick up, and Declan DeWil is a new offense that's being installed and implemented here. He feels good. Maybe he's got something going on. Who knows? I'm not too worried about Lamar Jackson missing,
Starting point is 00:38:02 especially considering how much he's been there this off-season. Okay, how about for the Chargers? We've seen Herbert in the building. Obviously, he lives in L.A. I think every single thing he does, every meal he has, every show he watches his documented now at this point. Congrats to him. He looks super-hand. him. Is there anything going on with him or why was his name floating on the internet?
Starting point is 00:38:20 I would think the same type of situation where he's not there for something like Justin Herbert's a worker bee. Like that guy's going to be there at most everything. If he's not there for an extended period, okay, then we'd ask the question. But, you know, I haven't taken daily attendance of Justin Herbert to figure out why he's not there today, you know, whether he's got a cold, whether he's got another obligation, whatever it may be, whether he's got a date, a big date, then who knows? Well, we'll find that out for sure. It feels like every time they do that, we learn him. I'm happy as hell for him, by the way.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I couldn't fathom what he is like in those settings. I bet it's fantastic. I saw him in the music video. I saw his own. He looked so good. He was in the camera. He was in love. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Get off this guy's bad. Just ask. But I am happy that we just got done doing a segment that basically says, hey, this is voluntary. Let's remember that. There's shit going on in people's lives. This is always, this is how this is. Yeah, yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:39:09 All right, sweet. Appreciate the hell out of you, Chef. Good luck over there. Go Pacers. Yeah, there you go. By the way, while I was on the phone here, the Thunder texted me. What do we got Pacers on? We need Thunder stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So they're going to be sending me stuff. So I'll wear Thunder the next time I'm on here. Boo! Hey, why don't you tell the Thunder? Won't you tell the Thunder, why don't they worry about Wemby tonight? Okay, they don't need to be worrying about wearing Pacer's stuff on the show. You're the best, ladies of gentlemen, Adam Schaefter. Hi, it's a good pivot, actually, ladies of gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It's time to move to the Association, the National Basketball Association. But before we do, let's get a quick. but some info. It's time for a drive-by. Yeah, yeah. It's a Sean's dry-by. Just need a hot-five. What's going on in hoops? We don't need a deep dive. It's a Sean's dry-bye. Just need a hot-five. Lunch. What's going on in hoops. We don't need a deep dive.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's right. We were watching you dance on the back. Pretty good little Bob. Pretty good little bob for the kid. A little bit of bounce there. A little bit of bounce there. Okay, let's get into it. Jason, kids fired. Okay, that comes out of nowhere. Then people start putting out his record even before the Luca trade, post-Luca trade, how the team has been. And it seems like all the stats that people are shoving into my algorithm warrant or justify a firing. Why do we think this happened? Did we know this is happening? This feels out of the middle of nowhere, Shams Sharanya. Yeah, so Pat, you have to look at the leadership that's now coming in. Masay Ujiri. He was a long time, 12 years he spent in Toronto as a vice chairman. in there. Now he gets the president job, the alternate governor job in Dallas. And he has full
Starting point is 00:40:51 authority to do whatever he wants with the direction of this team. And so in the last seven months, you trade Anthony Davis, you fire Nico Harrison, and now you fire Jason Kidd. And, you know, when I talk to people around that organization in the last 24 hours, you think about the residue that's all come from the trade of Luca Dachach, right? And everything that's come out of, that's come out of that and you've had an owner there and Patrick Dumont who's admitted that he made a mistake, that he made a mistake by greenlighting that trade. And so how involved was Jason Kidd? He wasn't making the trade, but Matt's sources do believe that he had a level of support for that trade. So Masay Jury comes in and I think for him it's a complete restart, a clean slate, a fresh start
Starting point is 00:41:39 for the entire organization. They've already fired Nico Harrison. Now you fire Jason Kier. Anthony Davis has already gone. You trade him basically for salaries and a few draft picks. You still have Kyrie Irving on this team who you feel like has a future with Cooper Flagg. Everything around this organization, that's the one element of the team that's not going to change. It's Cooper Flagg. But for them to move off of Jason Kid right now, they're eating four years and almost $45 million to get off of Jason Kid and essentially wash their hands of this situation. and this is all because team leadership wants a clean start.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Masai Ujiri came into the building. You, Luca trade. Like it? Don't like it. I thought we had to do it at a time. Sick. All right. Right. Him the fuck.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Thanks. You were a part of the Luca trade, right? If I do recall, you were the big name that came over? Yeah. All right. You made the trade, right? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You're fucking fired first. Okay, I'm going to let you know that right now. You definitely. You're out. out of here first. This is the dumbest. You see what he's doing over there. He's in shape, too. He's old. He's mature. He's fucking, what do you think was going to happen? You, you are, every time I look at you, the only reason why you're here is because we traded Luca. So we're going to get you the hell out of here for sure. And I heard you, coach,
Starting point is 00:43:00 you were kind of saying you thought it was because of you, not because of Luca, the whole thing. Get your ass out of here as well. That is kind of what this is, right? This is Cooper Flagg's team. We are going to eliminate the thought that Mark Cuban's the owner, that Luca was here, that we traded his ass away. We are going to, this is Cooper Flat. The main event is who we would like be. Is that kind of what this is from your standpoint? I mean, forget anyone involved with just the Luca Dantjeet. We've seen Patrick Dumot, the owner essentially flush away anyone that was even around the Mark Cuban regime, right? Nico Harrison, Jason Kidd, they were all brought in by Mark Cuban. Luca Dachich, a Mark Cuban guy. The only Mark Cuban guy left on that team right now is
Starting point is 00:43:41 Kyrie Irving. Kari Irving is a generational player, generational talent. Masay Uri did his press conference today and he said, we want to see Kyrie Irving and Cooper flag on the court together. But there's no question. There's multiple contenders around the NBA that are very much monitoring what Kyrie Irving's future is right now with the Mavericks, whether it's the summer, whether it's into the season. But that's all going to play out over the course of the year. There's no question, Jason Kidd, anyone else in that organization, where they were at with the Luca Don'ttach of it all, maybe I didn't play a factor in people's firings,
Starting point is 00:44:17 but certainly from an informational perspective or a position of like, that's a good background context. There's an investigation to an extent that you have to do when you come into an organization. So it's that, there's the infighting that's been going on internally there. There's been so much toxicity around that organization that now Messiah Ujiri is inheriting.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's crazy that the worst trait in history is a problem. Yeah. In the building. It has lingering effects. You know, they look. A lot of people probably loved Luca in that building. Oh, yeah. So then when it doesn't work out, the amount of I told you so's.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And then the amount of like, no, we had to do that time. You're not an adult, the grandstanding that could take place. And Maasai Ushiri said the reason why Kyrie Irving's still around, this is via Abby Jones at underscore Abigail. Nice. Messiah Jury. So Kevin Durant once told me there's only one Kyrie Irvin walking around the world. Okay, so you don't move on from one of those.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Okay, this guy's an actual witch with a basketball. And you've been watching his live. streams. He's back. It appears as if he is. That looks good. Him and Cooper. Okay, that could be sweet. Duke Brotherhood. We just got to hope that the Mavericks fans welcome the brand new era. I feel like they probably will, but there's probably a lot of healing that has to kind of take place. Okay, let's talk about tonight. Obviously, huge things is where the Mavericks are trying to get to. Darren Fox, obviously massive story of game one. Anything else we need to keep track of as we look to this evening,
Starting point is 00:45:38 Shams? Daren Fox is definitely a game time decision. I'm told he has a high ankle spread. and that's something he suffered in the Minnesota Timberl Series. He basically played through it, but it's stiffened up. It's added swelling in the last several days. And so he missed game one. That was essentially a game time decision. He ends up missing that game. They're going to take it closer to game time again today.
Starting point is 00:46:00 But the team is letting Deer and Fox make this decision. He's going to test it out throughout the day, get treatment, be a shoot-around that's going on right now, and then pre-game test it out. But you win game one, so I do wonder internally with the Spurs, yeah, they're probably going to want him to seek any play. But how much consideration do you have to do? How much caution are you going to have, given that you just won that game one? But this is, of course, a must-win type of environment for Oklahoma City. I'm very curious to see how Chet Holmgren comes out against Victor Omaniam on defense.
Starting point is 00:46:30 He was a guy that was one of the top three guys in defensive player of the year voting. So Chet Holmgren, Shea Giles, Alexander, J-Dub, a lot to prove tonight. Okay, so any other news that we need to think of? Is there any other injuries before we make any picks? Oklahoma City favored by six and a half yet again. A lot. No injuries on the Oklahoma City side. J. Dub came back in game one.
Starting point is 00:46:50 He's been full throttle. San Antonio just has the Deer & Fox situation. I thought I was going to get injured last night at Madison Square Garden. Literally the way that arena was trembling, I kid you not. It's like an earthquake. Like when Jalen Brunson's making those like banking shots, it's like a four-point game. Then it's a two-point game, a three-point game. Like the building was literally shaking.
Starting point is 00:47:11 So thankfully, I'm good. Okay, we're proud of you. Way to battle through an electric environment. Okay? Hope that continues to happen. And shout out to Madison Square Garden. Still bringing it. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you.
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Starting point is 00:47:34 What's up? I don't think you're washed. You can still, should probably do it. you had to do it. I appreciate the incredible merch though. We'd love one of their shirts if we could get them. We've been doing that on the show lately. Hey man, I shout out with my folks, man. My people over there watch Dadd, man. Take care
Starting point is 00:47:48 of the Pad and the Boys up there. They are fans. They are fans. They do it on and put it up there. They're good folks over here. Watch Dead. Okay, sick. Large toll. Okay. We'll get the sizes. We'll get the size. Okay, let's talk. Speaking of sizes, let's talk about tonight. The size of the two of the main events here,
Starting point is 00:48:06 Chet and Wembe are obviously massive topic of discussion. We just heard Shamsay as almost like a newsbreak. I'll be excited to see what Chet does defensively against Wembe. We've been talking a lot about that because those two look very similar. How do you expect Oklahoma City to respond to what Wemby did in game one? And how do you
Starting point is 00:48:22 think they're going to try to stop what this special, I mean unique alien is doing right now in the biggest stages? Yeah, man. Wimby's unbelievable. That game the other night, this shot, he's showing everything he did the other night was incredible.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Now, what the Thunder have to do, they have to respond. And like, it's been talked about a lot. If I'm Chet, as a player, as a man, I got to, I got to stand up and say, coach, I want that matchup. Regardless of whatever is being suggested and, like, you saw they threw several different bodies at them, Jalen Williams, Caruso, Lou Dork. Chet Holmgren is the one that everybody wants to see that we should see facing him. And that, to me, that's the best matchup for Wimby. likes the likeness and size and body shape and body structure. Why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah. I've been so confused all week. We've been talking about it and people are like, you know, Caruso, probably the right guy for that matchup. It's like, how, I don't know basketball well enough. Why would he not be guarding him? They just think he's better on like the second best player so they can kind of eliminate him and then double Wemby? Like, what is the, what is the thought? I'm not sure what the thinking is behind it. Maybe they think they can bother him with smaller guys or whatever because he's not as strong and he's not. going to, you know, like, back you down like a shack wood in the post or something. But to me, if I'm Winby, I mean, not Winby, if I'm chatting that situation and I'm in the
Starting point is 00:49:46 locker room while this is being said to the team, like, hey, this is what we're going to, I have to stand up and say something and say, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, coach, like, me and this dude got history. I want this match. Now, ultimately, the coach is going to have the last say, but I would at least have to speak up and let it be known that I would like this matchup, and I want to take that challenge on. that it didn't happen, but we assume that Chet has heard it, and we assume he'll answer.
Starting point is 00:50:12 This Oklahoma City team is unbelievable, and obviously they could have won game one. What would the conversation be if that was the case? Instead, now we're talking about Wendy maybe never losing a basketball game again. Let's talk about SGA in Oklahoma City. He gets doubled immediately upon breaking half court. That happens to him, I guess, on a very regular basis. That means somebody's going to be left open because it's just a math game. Caruso hit last time.
Starting point is 00:50:37 How do you think SGA response? What do you think Oklahoma City is about the face? And how do we watch them bounce back? Like I assume they're going to do because they haven't lost two in a row probably years, maybe. Yeah, I have no idea when the last time they did that. Yeah, I expect SGA to do pretty much when he did last guy. I mean, he said that all year long in the last couple of years. He really reads the game and watches and sees what he needs to do and where he gets it,
Starting point is 00:51:04 where he can fit in. but I'm impressed by his poise and not forcing anything. I do expect him to be a little more aggressive tonight trying to find, you know, trying to find more chances to go one-on-one and do his thing because they need him to score more. But I still expect him to kind of start out, like just letting the game flow.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And if his teammates are the open guys using those guys and I don't know if it'll be Caruso or who to be to get the open shots this time and knock them down or not knock them down. But I think to a certain extent, that's how SGA is wired, man. He doesn't really, like, force the issue. And you saw when he stopped, when he broke the 20-point streak,
Starting point is 00:51:42 he didn't do anything extra or go crazy to try and get the points. He kind of just lets the game dictate itself. But I do expect him to have some level of aggression that is more than last game. So he's pure point guard at his soul. You know, but boy, he can get buckets. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Pure Hooper.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Pure Hooper. He's going to make the right decision seemingly every time. That is kind of what Chris Paul talked to. about whenever he was on the other day. He was like, Shea made every right decision. Like he's a quarterback out there. He made every right decision. And CP3 said the same thing you said there.
Starting point is 00:52:12 It's like, would like him maybe to start, you know, calling his own number a little bit more, maybe. But that's, as a point guard, I feel like he feels like if there's a guy wide ass open, it is my job to get the ball to the guy that is wide ass open. That's a better shot than whatever I'm about to do. But I think SGA forgets that like, hey, whatever you're about to do, the hoops big.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah. You know, whatever, whatever you're about to do the hoops big. Can't wait to watch that battle tonight. Last night was epic. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Q, obviously the story of the night was the comeback, but what led to the comeback, we put together a highlight reel,
Starting point is 00:52:45 or maybe a low-light reel, depends on what team you're rooting for. Just James Harden getting ISOed a thousand times with Jalen Brunson. What were your thoughts on the fourth quarter and the Cavs' defensive plan and kind of what Brunson did to go off? So a couple things. Like first of like, number one, if I'm James Harden, and I want to say this by start off saying this by like, I got crazy respect for James Hardin and his game and, you know, everything he's done and what he means to the game.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But in a situation like this, I mean, it's tape of me, guarding different people, Kobe, whoever it may be. If somebody started tuning you up like this, you got to, you got to give them a shot. Like, obviously in this era, you can't do nothing too crazy. You might get, you know, technical or thrown out. don't want to do nothing like that. But when somebody is just lining you up, seeking you out every time, every time, and they scored this many points in a row at some point, I don't care. I'm just going hit you. I'm going to just file you and let you know that you pissing me off and that it might go further if you continue this just to try to do anything because nothing, clearly he couldn't guard him.
Starting point is 00:53:54 He couldn't guard him. And they continued to go to it and exploit it. That's the first thing. But secondly, from the team and the coaching standpoint, if the coach ain't going to, switch it. As a teammate, somebody got to step in and say, yo, now, let me get them. Like, this is like, what are we doing here? Somebody, it was a failure on all different sides for the coach to change the matchup,
Starting point is 00:54:14 a player, a teammate to step in and say, I, somebody, we need to do something. Or for even Hardin to say himself, you don't want to concede defeat, but at some point, we want to win the game. Coach Atkinson said that Hardin's one of his best defenders after the game, and all my
Starting point is 00:54:30 Algo was feeding me was he was the worst defender of history of basketball. So I was just so it was such a juxtaposition in it all, but like the Knicks just getting that hot that quickly in the way you were saying it, Jalen Brunson just saying in the huddle, I think there is a moment where he starts talking, by the way. Hey, get me on Hardin. Maybe that's what he's saying. You know, we will run on a 40 to 11 run or whatever the case was. Insane fourth quarter, absolutely epic start to the NBA playoffs thus far. Why is Atkinson saying that about James? He's just trying to. to gas him up, try to keep him motivated because he understands James can hear all this.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And can James respond to this in a big way like you did in the previous series? Absolutely. I think he absolutely said that to, you know, support his guy and to stay behind him and, you know, show him support. But, yeah, I think, I mean, to me, Hardin can definitely bounce back. I was surprised at this game. I felt like going into the game. I was looking at his numbers, like historically against the Knicks. He plays well in the Garden against the Knicks. In general, he has a winning record against him. I felt like it boded well for him in this series. But obviously he didn't play as well as, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:40 anybody would have liked them to. And then the defensive part of it is, you know, that's all that everybody's talking about. So that's a tough one. I will say this, though, they were probably, the nigs got down to, when they cut it down to like,
Starting point is 00:55:54 it was either 16 or 15 to 13 or something like that. And I tweeted, I say, they got a shot right here. I said, the push and do a couple more like because in this NBA the three point is such an equalizer that 20 points is no longer like this you know unfathomable thing to come back from like it used to be and so once they got at the 15 and the crowd started to get a little more into it and you saw Brunson started to come alive and I was like if he score again like they need to double immediately
Starting point is 00:56:24 the same way that people are doing SJ they got to run two guys at him immediately and just get them off the ball and see what anybody else could do, but they let it get too far and too far. And then once they got it on the town, I said, okay, we got a game. And then you could see the change in Cleveland. They played timid after that. It was like they tried to get the air out of the ball and run the clock, and then it was like once it turned up, it felt like they played timid to me. And all we are is one eighth of an inch away from the Merrill three for them winning.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Crazy night. You're the best. Basketball is killing it. We appreciate you. You're not a washout. That's Q, Rich. Thank you. We're back on the other side.
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Starting point is 00:57:53 Are the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them. The Western Conference finals battle tonight, both in hockey and in the NBA. Last night, an instant classic took place in Madison Square Garden for the Eastern. conference NBA, round one. I mean, we are in the middle of champions trying to find their way to their trophies. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, God. Cowboys AP Dun is here. It's not just the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Football is delivering. There's a guy in jail right now. Yeah? That's crazy. Old days are happening. We're getting some highlights. That's cool. A lot of teams having a lot of guys show up.
Starting point is 00:58:27 New cultures are being set. New precedents are being set for teams. Quarterbacks, new faces, new places. All right news out of some camps. What's that? Not some... I mean, the word on the street is, if you thought Drake May was good last year,
Starting point is 00:58:38 you'd wait. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, from an attic in Ohio. His man is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, erotic up winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hogg. Hawker, good news coming out in New England,
Starting point is 00:58:50 it sounds like for Drake May. I did actually hear that. We hear all great things coming out of New England, so yeah, it's going to be another Super Bowl year, right, comment? Don't be a dickhead, okay? We're talking about Drake May. Good things coming out of camp about Drake May.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Okay, asshole. Geez, Louise. But right now it is a very positive time for all teams. You know, some teams are kind of set in their roster because they don't have a lot of money. Some teams still have a lot of money and can figure it out after the OTAs, what they might need before they head into training camp at the end of the summer. But I think right now most optimistic time for most teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 We're seeing highlights come out from social media teams. We're watching people dance. We're seeing good coaching happening. We're seeing celebrations. We're seeing highlights. I saw Carson Beck put one in an absolute bucket. It's like right now is all good times, I think. and when you're building up the belief in your team
Starting point is 00:59:35 potentially being able to win it all. Josh Allen's already got handshakes for everybody. Keon Coleman right there has come out. It's a make or break year for Keon Coleman. Joe Brady loves Keon Coleman. It's like right now it feels like all positive, which I absolutely love, AJ. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And this is a time in the NFL where you, like, it really is a great time for players if you think about it to build your culture because you have this on the field stuff, yes. But you're only at the facility, what, four, six hours a day? This is the time when you go and you work on the field, and then you get to actually hang out off the field and go play golf, go do whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:00:06 So this is a key time, I think, for teams to build those relationships, truly. Bears with the lads on the golf court. Oh, yeah. Go to Kenwood. And say your team goes Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, which they don't do anymore. A lot of times that Tuesday night you all go out and hang out. Oh, yeah, just great times. Cards games happening.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Card games happening all the times around. Oh, my God. It's a good old days. There's only one team that really had a tough clip. I don't know if you saw, but there was a Tua overthrow and a penknick. That was the one. That was a clip I saw. Yeah, I believe.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Who pulled out the news or social media? I think it was the news. I don't think it was social. Back seam routes. They didn't hit. Yeah, one was high. One was low. And people were like, you got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah, well, I mean, who would have guessed? Let's go to Miami Dolphin fan, Bubba Gumpino. Could you have guessed that coming out of Falcons camp? Yeah, I'm really happy to C2 on Atlanta. He looks really good. Malik Willis has been working really hard. hard all offseason just spinning darts all over the place. Best of luck to the Falcons and Tua for sure.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I saw Malik Willis throw baseball out of the stadium for his open pitch. Also, he also mashed in the batting cage after that. He did. The exit velocity on a couple of his ropes was crazy. That is good. Yeah, like wide receivers, tight ends. Those types of guys really, really good. He's been ripping balls across the middle all day yesterday.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I mean, he's firing darts in Miami boys. I believe in Malik. They need to just let him do what he is. run the football. Just commit to it. Everybody's so scared to do it fully because of the quarterback position. If he gets hurt, you're kind of screwed. But it's like, what if you never reach the apex of a player because you're scared to let him be who he's supposed to be? We're kind of saying that with Justin Fields.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Like, Justin Fields is clearly the best runner of the ball whenever he's on the field. Whenever he's running with it, he is faster than everybody. He's seemingly smarter than everybody. He has good awareness on where to run to, set up blocks. He's like an incredible, but he's quarterback. We need him to throw. We need him to throw. it's like, okay, definitely has to throw better, of course,
Starting point is 01:02:00 but why wouldn't we want to utilize what makes him maybe an NFL quarterback? And like, well, one shot, it's over. It's like, what, did you ever get it? Like, I think there is a weird spot to be. And to be, it's almost like you're being punished for being a great athlete. You're not punished, but hey, to a true, like, we think old school drop back quarterback, you need to be able to, you know, take a three, five step, drop, pull the trigger. But if you are an absolute free Catholic, that's faster than most every guy on the field at that time,
Starting point is 01:02:26 yeah, it probably would benefit you to pull that thing down, maybe have some design runs, but then all of a sudden, like, the better you get, the more scared they get for you to get hurt. Lamar, exactly. The better you get it running the ball, the more scared they are that you're running the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Like, it was happening with Lamar Jackson, obviously in his first contract, all anybody said was not going to be able to last long enough in the NFL to be able to do this. Then he makes it through his whole first contract. Then he gets franchise tag, makes it through there again, wins an MVP, does an entire thing. You're going to pay?
Starting point is 01:02:52 You think he's going to, he's like he's proven that he can avoid hits and everything. we got to see him be able to throw. Then he becomes the best passer in the NFL. Remember he's like QBR was better than everybody else and his passer rating was better than everybody else. And it wins another MVP. And it's like you're still not going to be able to do that all that run.
Starting point is 01:03:07 It's like, okay. But that is kind of the old narrative. There has been unique situations. Lamar Jackson being that. How about him attending more off-season stuff than he's ever attended before? And maybe Minter cracking into a new culture over there in Baltimore. Everybody's talking about John Horrible.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Okay, because he went to the Giants. He picked up and left, took a lot of Ravens with him. nobody's talking about what's going to happen in Baltimore. Is this going to be a refresh team, a happy team, a hungry team with Minter? What are your thoughts on how this Baltimore Raven Squad looks as a whole? And what is Buda going to be cheering for this year? Yeah, I mean, I think with Minter they may have like some, I don't know, like you'll re-energize them a bit. I'm sure for them more for anybody, it's true no matter what level you are on the team when a new staff comes in, you kind of have to prove yourself to them.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And if you have any pride as an athlete, you want to show them, hey, I know, like, I want this new staff to know, like, I'm, comment here daily. I run the show. This is my, like, I am the absolute leader of this offense of the team, and you want to prove to those guys that you are who they probably think you are. All right. Last question here about this whole thing. The reason why we're talking about this is because Lamar missed voluntary workouts. Some other guys did as well. Back in the day, it was not a big deal. Now we cover everything. How do you feel? About missing, yeah, I mean, there's things come up all the time. You mentioned it earlier in the show. Family stuff, charity events, yeah. There's reasons to miss a time.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yeah. Maybe there's a golf game that has to be played. not that I had to be in everyone because I was a tweeter and I was a punter so I have to be there's no hey you can't be and you usually have I would assume they still have you attend a certain amount of the off season workouts like
Starting point is 01:04:37 they'll tell you if you need 85% of the workouts you get your workout bonus yeah I heard that was a big thing in Green Bay I heard that was a big thing in Green Bay a lot of the cities that aren't destination cities have the offseason workout bonuses in place because like in L.A. Herbert probably lives out there you know Dallas a lot of guys like live
Starting point is 01:04:53 free money though it's great though it's free money in your contract You don't, like, I was like, you can put as much as you want in there because all I have to do is show up, which I'm going to do anyway. Yeah, it's your job. That's kind of what fans think now whenever guys miss OTAs are like, it's your job. You're getting paid. So this is, you can't show up for six days here in the middle of May to do your job. That's how fans feel. But like the voluntary OTAs, it's like, hey, do you want to come say what's up?
Starting point is 01:05:16 It used to be viewed like this. It was definitely a lot of things. You used to be viewed like that. Now it's like, hey, you get paid a lot of money. Your ass needs to be. This guy's committed? What are we doing? Do you want to go do a charity event,
Starting point is 01:05:27 raise $100 million for cancer research? Okay, do it on your own time. You didn't have to work the last three months. Trying to win a game. Remember, you didn't make the playoffs. You remember that? You had a long time doing the playoffs to do all this shit. That's what fans say.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yes. That's the fans are supposed to say, and we appreciate that. As we move forward, now, ladies and gentlemen, it is another absolute honor to be a part of the future of somebody that might be carrying
Starting point is 01:05:52 the next generation into a grind. and pine physical football world. Every once in a while, we get an opportunity to be part of one of the biggest decisions of an athlete's life. Who's committing where, Foxy? Locking in the play and some big game
Starting point is 01:06:28 Where you're going next Recruiting is like chess Got a 4D if you want to be the best Announce it on the show Oh where you're going to go Oh everybody waiting They all want to know Because it's a big day
Starting point is 01:06:41 For some big no money Okay ladies and gentlemen We're about to add to that highlight reel With a big man Big man Huge Hey Giant of a man
Starting point is 01:07:02 Who is wildly athletic out of Grayson, Georgia. He's a Grayson High School ram, and he's about to ram his ass through some college football conference making his collegiate football decision here today. Ladies and gentlemen, 6'4, 305 pound. Jordan Agbenoma. Yeah, Jordan! How you doing, man?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Mr. McBee, how you doing? Mr. Agbenoma, how are you doing, brother? How's life? I'm good. How are you? Good. How is your 6'4, 3.05? We're watching your highlights. Okay. So every time we get to do this, we realize quickly that your guys' generation is so much bigger, faster, stronger, and better of football than maybe any generation in history. And I don't know if you've seen these highlights
Starting point is 01:07:48 yet, AJ. This guy's going to the stands. He's going to take a guy over there. Yep, he's going to the stands. That's him all the way over there. Everyone is you moving bodies. You're playing tackle in a couple of these. They're projecting you to be an interior offensive lineman. When did you grow into the offensive line body? Have you always been a massive body mover? How'd you find your way into this particular field, Jordan? I mean, I always been big. You know, also when I was playing basketball back in the old days, just playing basketball. I'm my coach. I used to foul out every single time. I was a big guy on the field, so my basketball coach talked to my dad, gave me into football and I'm playing football
Starting point is 01:08:24 ever since. How's the recruiting process? Having basketball feet while also having the power and the mindset to want to punish people makes up a perfect offensive lineman. How has the recruiting process been for you over the last couple years, especially now with the NIL component and everything else that can potentially muddy the waters a bit? I mean, it's been good. You know, I started January of my sophomore year. He's been turned up since then. So it's been a great time in the NIL part.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I mean, for me, it's a blessing, you know. I can take care of my family early. I just help all the people I want to help out and people who help me out. which has been a blessing for me. Jordan, I love everything you're saying. I love watching your film. I love the fact that the future of the offensive line is seemingly in great hands.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And speaking of future, why don't you go ahead and take the floor here and let the world know where you're going to be playing football at next? All right. I think my mom, dad, brother, sister, friends, family, my coaches, anybody without anything to us to say, I'm committed to the University of Nebraska. Hey!
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yay. Okay. Obviously in Georgia, I believe Georgia was a part of the conversations. Texas A&M was a part of the conversations. There was a lot of schools, obviously, that wanted the 6'4, 305 basketball feet, having powerhouse, offensive linemen top five in the country in all rankings. Why Nebraska? Jordan, congrats to you.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I mean, all the coaches are great people, you know. I mean, I've been there. I've been there twice. And then even those two visits, I mean, I've seen Pappas. I've seen the city of Lincoln. I've seen how Coach Wade coaches, Coach Rule coaches. It's a great place.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's a great place for me to come in early and start early and play the freshman and build my own legacy there. Okay, so we're excited to see you get in there. How do you feel about entering Big Ten football? Yeah, it's going to get, hey, it's going to get cold, Jordan. Hey, it's going to get cold out here. Big bodies, a lot of hand fighting. Obviously, a lot of meat in Big Ten football.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Are you excited about that? Because it feels like that's your style of play from what we've seen from your huddle. Yes, sir, Mr. of the play, coach. Side of the play, sir. Love that. You're the greatest. Tell your family, they did a phenomenal job.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I hope they are listening. We can't wait to watch you at Nebraska, and Coach Ruhl. I know it's probably over the moon right now that he has you coming to town. Congratulations. Thanks for letting us be a part of this. Sir, no problem.
Starting point is 01:10:48 It'll be a great. Hey, ladies of Jones, Jordan, Agman. Yay, Jordan. Good energy. We had multiple, we had multiple graphics there, because, you know, we get a heads up. but also that has changed in the past
Starting point is 01:11:01 where somebody has made a different decision. That's huge for a rule. Oh yeah. Ty was pissed when that one came through the way. I said that makes sense. He wants to go and he wants to start his freshman year. Nebraska would be where you would go compared to, you know, A&M, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:11:15 So that's, this is his final five. Listen, Florida, Miami, Georgia, Texas A&M, Nebraska. That is kind of surprising. But, you know, to your point, I mean, we've heard about, you know, the NIL that Nebraska has available to. and if you get a kid that from Georgia who goes up there and likes Lincoln,
Starting point is 01:11:32 likes the campus, doesn't mind about the weather. Like, as of right now, it would make, like, why wouldn't you want to go play in the Big Ten? So, I mean, it's not that crazy. Congratulations, Jordan. Congratulations to Nebraska. 6-4-305. Put together well. That'll work.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah. And he, hey, moves well. He's a rogue great. Imagine being a high school kid, you know, you're like a 240. pound three technique and this guy's just blasting you all game long you got to watch film all week knowing what's coming and then you get there but a math he's even larger than he had math tests on Friday morning oh man well I got tonight egg but oh good for him we're lucky to be a part of these stories yeah they're off we really appreciate doing it and you know immediately upon it
Starting point is 01:12:20 happening there'll be a bunch of people saying how many more schools he gonna go to you're a part of his first announcement he might change before even gets on campus it's like I do believe that is currently an option for these guys. We don't do transfer committee. That's not our thing. We are just, we're very happy. And congratulations to Matt Ruhl and Nebraska. Congratulations to AJ as well.
Starting point is 01:12:40 We chatted about this a little bit on the show, and then we did a little follow-up. This guy's a beekeeper. That's right. Big time. This guy's an actual beekeeper. Very early on, very early on. I don't want to act like I know what's going on. Yeah, this is an interesting thing, though.
Starting point is 01:12:52 You bring these bees into conversation for us, and then do you see they're at the White House now? Is there a little bee, big bee? Huge, yeah. I'm working for Big Bee, yeah. It doesn't feel like maybe you were targeted and preyed upon because now that the bees are becoming conversation, you have fallen in love with the bees. We talked to AJ, he baited in this feral swarm of bees,
Starting point is 01:13:13 these wild bees that have been living out there on their own, okay? Not barn bees, not created bees. These bees that have been out there, honeycomen. Fairl bees. Homeless bees. Out there. in the streets of the bees community. Gave him a home.
Starting point is 01:13:29 He gave, he, he, yes, he baited them all in, baited them all in. Then he captured them. And they said, instead of being mad at him, they view him as a hero. He's giving them, and now he said, now it's my job to take care of these bees. So they're happy here, but they're all workers. He said, a couple of my friends by beehives, they get them from places that are created, spoiled bees. These things aren't good at work.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Russian bees. You actually, yeah, the Russian bees are not, because they're spoiled because they've been brought up in captivity. feral swarm. It sounds like you're actually proud of. Just want to let everybody know the way he was talking. Very much so. Very much so, yeah. They're a good group. Great group. They're workers. I'm telling you. I said I checked on them
Starting point is 01:14:06 last night. Letting them go. I need to give them six or seven days to settle into the hive. But yeah, I peaked on them last night. They are replicating it quickly. They look good. Do you, because your friends have beehives. Is there any underground bee fighting leagues where you take your hives and put them in a room together and just see which hive
Starting point is 01:14:24 comes out alive? Can't be doing that. No, but I could, but if his hive, if he doesn't take care of his hive over there, they might swarm and come right over to my place. Yeah, so that is a thing. Same with mine, same with mine too. So I got, I'm going to keep my guys. Trust me, you know, they're feral. So they're not scared to leave.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Like, they have no issues. I got to make sure I give them good condition. The way you were talking, the way you were talking to this face, 10, 15 minutes I'm talking to him. Never heard him talk about his kids like this. Ever. He was like, you know, I got to keep these things happen. These things are smart, smart. These things will get up and leave.
Starting point is 01:14:53 They'll go find another high. Oh, yeah. If I don't treat them right, they'll get up and leave. And it's like, well, how do you stop him from doing it? You got to earn their trust. You got to earn these bees trust. How they become feral? And then he told me about two and a half years, maybe we can get some honey.
Starting point is 01:15:05 So this is a long game for the allergy season. And I'm thankful. Great for the garden. I'm thankful that you were doing it. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, coming to you, is a line from, I don't know, a movie scene. It looks like, ladies and gentlemen, some call them Big Hornel. You might know him as horny. You also might know him as John Sol and Johnny.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Ladies and gentlemen, 18-year NHL veteran Stanley Cup champion Eric Johnson. Hey, Horno! What's off? Horno! Horno! How do you go full screen on him real quick, just so we can see? This is out of the movie scene here. So where are we right now? We are in Lexington, Kentucky, the beautiful bluegrass,
Starting point is 01:15:48 and some of the mares and babies enjoying some sunshine out here. All right, so I know pink sky at night, sailors delight, pink sky morning, sailor take warning or something. I know that if cows are laying down, I think that means rain is on the way. I see the big cloud. Will the horses act any differently if rain's on the way? Are they the ones telling, are they a Doppler or are you guys potentially going to all get drenched at the same time here? So this is actually, I have a, this is a horrible story. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Horses are really attracted to lightning, like they're just hit more often. So I've actually had a horse get struck by lightning and die on the spot because a lot of these, there's these waters out here. You see these waters in the background? Yeah. So those have pipes that run all the way to it. And so the lightning will hit that and the horses will get affected. So I've had a few get struck by lightning over the years. I should probably quit the game now because that's just maybe the worst luck I've ever heard of.
Starting point is 01:16:45 But it's nice to be out here. I mean, just I had the vet over here this morning. her arm was all the way up the mayor back in to see if she was pregnant with ultrasound. I mean, we had everything going on this morning. So it's been a busy morning, boys. Oh, yeah. Are you grand?
Starting point is 01:16:59 She was not pregnant. She was not pregnant. You're not grand, pony. Okay, got it. So do you know the behind the scenes of how the mayor gets bred and covered by the stallion? Are you familiar at the process? I don't think everybody knows. Tone digs, though, it sounds like, which I appreciate.
Starting point is 01:17:14 I don't know if you've been to certain shows in Mexico, but if you could please kind of explain to me the process, I know that when somebody wins, they stud them out, they say. And then I'll see some things on the internet, whether it's... It's a big sleeve. It's a big one of these. Or if it's actually happening, we don't know it's for sure. But that's what's happening at your horse farm all day, every day?
Starting point is 01:17:33 Is that kind of what your business is? So these are the mayors, and they'll get on the van, you know, to go to the stallion farm to get covered. So all these stallion farms where they have these big expensive stallions, every farm has something called a teaser stallion. And the teaser wears like a big chef's apron, right? So he's covered and he goes up to the mayor to make sure she's receptive to the whole process. So the teaser gets screwed out of this whole deal. He gets no action.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And once the mayor is known that she's receptive, they take the teaser out, the big stallion troughs in, then he covers the mayor. So it's a whole process. You do not want to be the teaser. Okay. Don't ever be the teaser, it sounds like, but it does sound like the horse business is a pretty sophisticated one that has process. you're really in this thing. You're in the horse business.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Should we be talking about you as if you are horse guy as opposed to NHL guy? Like, is this your full commitment now? I love it. I mean, it's, I like it, boys. When you join a golf country club, you are never going to see that money again. You're going to pay your monthly dues. But what are you going to get out of it? Tons of friendships, tons of great experiences.
Starting point is 01:18:41 You have to love the game to get in it. And I love horse racing. I love the breeding. you know, we try and be profitable and make money by selling these babies at auction every year and just getting out in Kentucky, Lexington is such an underrated town, a beautiful place. And just to have this place in retirement, it has been awesome with the moms, the babies, all the racing out at Keenland and the beers down at Campbell Club and downtown Lexington. You just can't beat the vibe down here.
Starting point is 01:19:07 That are so cold. Cushable long. Yeah, we're happy that you're crushing it. A couple chilly ones, too. Maybe go ahead and take that down as you're looking at the mares, kind of figure their life out, getting shown or whatever the case is. Let's talk some puck though. Bingo. You're a stallion. There's some stallions.
Starting point is 01:19:21 There's a stallion out tonight. Yeah. Which is obviously a huge piece of the conversation. Macar out. What does this mean? This Golden Knights team obviously has been rallying since Torts has taken over very late in the season. Right before the playoffs, the Golden Knights have seemingly found who they are. Team with a lot of Moxie. What does this mean for the Avalanche with the injury to McCar and how do you think the Golden Knights can potentially steal?
Starting point is 01:19:42 I don't want to say steal. I apologize. The Golden Knights will take that as disrespect. but you understand what I'm saying here for this Vegas team. Is this the time? And even if McCar was playing, would they have what it takes to potentially make this real in here in Colorado? I think Vegas is going to give Colorado a tougher series than maybe everyone thinks. Since Torts has taken over in Vegas, they've lost two, three games, I think,
Starting point is 01:20:06 maybe less, including the regular season and the playoffs. So this is a team that really knows how to win. They won the Cup in 23, Colorado 1 and 22, so it's two veteran teams going at it. Eichael McKinnon, two of the best two-way centers in the NHL. Some might even have McKinnon as the best player in the NHL right now, especially if he can win another cup. But having McCar out, the best description I can give,
Starting point is 01:20:27 if you're not a natural hockey fan watching the show right now, it would be like a prime time LeBron James not being in the lineup. That's how big McCar is for the abs and for the NHL. He's just as good on the offensive side as he is defensively. He's a guy that's out there, when you need a goal and when you're defending the other team trying to put one in your net. So he's just that good at both ends of the rink. He's an electrifying talent as far as what he can bring offensively.
Starting point is 01:20:57 But sometimes you see these guys that are so good on one end and they sacrifice for the other end. He's not that guy. He can do it at both ends of the ice. I don't know if Mark Stone's going to play tonight for Vegas. They're captain. I don't think he is. He's got the back issue. But I think it's going to be a heck of a series.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I have it going six or seven games. and it's going to come down to goal tenning at the end of the day for me. I don't know if Carter Hart can be a guy that can shut down the abs in this long series. Like it's probably going to be, but it's going to be too heavyweight squaring off. Okay, so let's talk about a couple of the injuries that you mentioned there. Stoner's had a back for a bit. Long time. Back seemingly always shows up.
Starting point is 01:21:31 You thinking he's not going to be out, we'll wait for official word. I don't know if that's been released or not. McCar, though, feels like with you hockey guys, you have to be like damn near dead to not play. Okay, because the shit that comes out after series is once people get eliminated is like, he was playing in the series with like a fractured foot it's like well how was he he was playing with what was the the one the other day L2 or C2 C1 Ferted right but like actual things broken neck
Starting point is 01:21:54 Internal bleeding for the flyers the guy had yeah it might have been Tampa a couple years ago where somebody was actually like getting pushed up onto the ice chuck could't stand up yeah and we didn't it's ribs right yeah didn't even find out so afterwards though because you guys don't put anything out there's no like it's just upper body or lower body that could be anything okay the upper body's up of a lot of shit. The lower body, maybe he's his dick or is it his groin or do he break his femur? Yeah. Like what, what is it? It could be anything with hockey. So McCar missing this feels
Starting point is 01:22:23 like a big deal or is just for him to be able to get back sooner? How do you kind of read the McCar? Because I guess he was on the ice this morning or something like that so he can't, like, like how do you judge these types of things when you sit, when you don't sit in hockey, a sport that like I think expects everybody to play all the time? For me and I'm just speculating. I don't, I played with these guys. I'm really good friends of them. I'm not going to bug them during the playoffs. I'm not going to fish for any injury gossip or anything like that. But to me, it feels like it's worse than they anticipated because they've had a little bit of time off since they closed out Minnesota, right?
Starting point is 01:22:57 They haven't had Carolina time off 10 or 11 days, but they've had time off. So I do expect him to play probably in game two or game three, but Colorado is deep enough, especially on the blue line, which is crazy to say when you're saying you're going to miss probably the maybe the best player and the best defenseman in the world out of your lineup. I think Colorado's deep enough back there to sustain that loss of McCar, but it's going to be a big task. Like, not only, and I talked to you guys the other day about how good Quinn Hughes and McCar are at the top of the power play,
Starting point is 01:23:29 that's where they're going to miss him the most. They'll probably put Devon Taves at the top of the power play right there. He's a lefty, McCar's a righty, so there's just a different dynamic up there when he gets the puck. McCar can shoot it on the one-timer from the other side, but now Taves will be able to shoot the one-timer, and it's set up on McKinnon's side. So that's the difference tonight.
Starting point is 01:23:48 It's probably going to be seven Taves. It could be 70 Milinski at the top. You might see Burns up there as well, but it's just a different look without McCar up there on the power play. He's so good distributing, shooting. So it's going to be a big loss, but I think Colorado is good enough to overcome it.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Good call on the Montreal PowerPlay, by the way. Good call on that. It wasn't Cole, but it wasn't Cawfield, yeah. Yeah, so you probably went too close to the sun. You should have just stayed at the power power. Just going to zoom out. You know, just zoom out. I would have been the king if I didn't say Caulfield, right? I would have been the king
Starting point is 01:24:19 but now I'm nothing. I'm done. No, no, Hornell. Hornell, Hornell, Hornell. You're somebody to us, damn it. You're somebody to us. You're standing cup champion. Yeah, you are standing up. On that note, Connor has a question. For you, we need this advice from you.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Wake up, Hornel. I'm sick of you potting over there. especially, I know that's not good for the horses. We know that they can do. What's what the Scottish action, talker to hockey? Let us teach you hockey, let us teach you hockey, life. It's never been to Saskatoon, you buffoon?
Starting point is 01:24:57 Jeez, Louise. But speaking of these cup runs, what is the biggest thing as we get deeper and deeper in the playoffs? Like, when you guys won the cup, for you, what was kind of the hardest thing for your team to kind of get through? It feels like right now is the,
Starting point is 01:25:11 rust-rest conversation for both sides of it with Carolina and the abs dealing with a lot of rust, perhaps, because they've been off for so long and the other team not having enough rest? Like, what do you think is the biggest thing the teams are going through now? And what was kind of your experience when you guys were at the Western Conference finals when you guys inevitably won the Cup? Great question. So to me, especially in the regular season and how condensed the schedule was this year with the Olympics, guys were playing realistically every single night
Starting point is 01:25:43 and then all your best players went to the Olympics and played a gauntlet of hockey for three weeks so this rest that Carolina has that Colorado's gotten in the first and a little bit now in the second round it's so big like I can't overstate it enough it is to get four or five days in between series or 10 or 11 that Carolina got
Starting point is 01:26:04 you just don't get that type of recovery and I don't want to hear anything about the rust I do not believe it in the playoffs. If you can get rest, it's so big for not only physically on your body. Because let's be honest, half the teams getting shot up in their ass with Toradole before the game anyway. They can't feel anything. You know, it's like the miracle drug, right? So, I mean, the mental part of the rest that you get is so big.
Starting point is 01:26:31 The grind of, let's be real. You're playing, say, on a Monday, you're traveling on a Tuesday, and then you're playing again on a Wednesday. really the whole way through, unless you're lucky enough to sweep a team or beat a team in five. So I don't buy into any of the rust because the rest, physically, mentally, all that stuff, it overweighs all of it to me. I think it's so big this time of year because you just can't find it during the season. Time why you punish me. Finding time is a good thing, especially in the playoffs in a Best of Seven series,
Starting point is 01:27:06 when it can be absolutely grueling. We saw it last night with the Knicks, though. They had a little Ross DJ. They had a little Ross, Horno. We hope they won't have... What did they come back from? Was it 41, 31, 31? Twenty-two, but they went on a 41 to 11 run or something like that. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 01:27:21 That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, but they had Ross, DJ. Yeah, you're a big-time basketball. You don't want to see me shoot a basketball. It's embarrassing. We know you're a hockey player. We've already seen it in our minds.
Starting point is 01:27:32 We've seen you do that. How about, can you throw or no? I'm kind of battling this little rotator cuff thing. doing some inclined presses at the farm. Yeah. With the hay. You're going to Toradole, hey? Hey.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Hey. It's great to hear that you guys are in that world as well. It makes sense after watching you guys play and everything. And we've done our grand standing for Toradole before. We'd like to let everybody know, you shouldn't take it unless you have to play a professional game. Okay, with other people that are allowed to take it. And it's definitely going to make them feel better. Sure. So his team, Green Bay Packers over there, didn't offer it.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Wow. Never had it. How many Super Bowls? I have one, but yeah, no tour, zero tour at all. I don't know if they're going to win. That's an ethical ball right there. That is ethical ball. I wonder if they're going to be able,
Starting point is 01:28:25 I wonder if they're going to be able to win one in a modern era. I genuinely. They still do that, age? Do you know? It would be fine. I would assume so, yeah. I don't know for sure, though. I genuinely want, and listen, once again, we're not promoting anything.
Starting point is 01:28:37 If Michael wants Toradole, he's going to get Toradole. I don't know. That's kind of what AJ was saying was no. That's kind of how they operate. Well, you can sneak it in the locker room and do yourself. You think it's like... Check yourself with Toradole? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:48 What movie are you guys watching? The program? Yeah. You think that's what's happened? I mean, it was happening in our locker in high school, so why wouldn't it? Was it? Yeah. Was it really?
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah, you know the guy. Rest in peace. Excuse me? Oh, rest in peace. Oh, no. He did get to play in college football, though. It did pay off. That's not happening.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Have you ever taken it before golf? I'm kind of embarrassed to say I have. Pail for? No, no. Ivy, you're sitting in the spa. You know, you're laying back right before, right? What's that? That's what booze is for.
Starting point is 01:29:23 No. Yeah, well, that was later in the round. That was after the turn. Of course. That was after the turn. With the churn hard hot dog. Yeah. Think about that swing.
Starting point is 01:29:32 On the IV. My swing's awful. Embarrassing. Really? So non-athletic. that rotator cut thing. Yeah, we'll use that. Yeah, definitely. All right, let's move along whenever we talk about a little bit of puck.
Starting point is 01:29:44 It's not just the players that are on Torado. For us in the NFL, the coaches were lining up over there as well. AJ has a question about that. Yeah, Horna, we talked about Torz on here, obviously, the Vegas coach. How about Colorado? This Bednar character seems like the just cool, calm and collect. He doesn't ever seem phase. He seems just awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:02 His hair is amazing. He dresses great. What can you say about Bednar here? Yeah, I think the biggest thing from playing for him is he's really relatable. I think maybe this has changed over the course since I first got into the league when my career was going on early on in 2006, 2007. Coaches were more pricks, right? I think, you know, you walk down the hallway right in front of him, you kind of put your head down, they put their head down. There wouldn't be a ton of talking.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Bedsie's super relatable. And I think the biggest thing is I've noticed he's gotten a ton of confidence since he first broke into the, the league. He came in late. I don't know if you guys remember. It was 2016. Patrick Waugh had just retired abruptly. Sorry, resigned abruptly in middle of August. So that's, that's really, really close to the season starting. And Bednar just won the HL championship as that's the Farm League in the NHL. And he got hired right before that. We went on to finish last that season, dead last in the NHL. And Joe Sackick, our GM at the time, had a decision to make. Do I bring this guy back? Or I give him another chance. He brought him back. And,
Starting point is 01:31:07 he's rewarded him in spades. I think a lot of people are questioning, should Bednar get fired if the abs don't win the Stanley Cup this year? I think it would be a foolish decision one way or the other. This guy would be scooped up in two minutes. He's, I think, one of the top coaches, the NHL. He's embraced analytics and the eye test. A lot of coaches, they just used to rely on the eye test.
Starting point is 01:31:28 What am I seen? He uses the data with his eyes, what he's seen during the game to make decisions on his lineup and his roster. He's got that cool surfer dude. dude vibe. He's dressing better than he ever has. I don't know who's helping him with his outfits. I know it's not him, but he's a great guy. I really enjoyed playing for him. I like that you just had to take a shot to his shins there late. Like, yeah, the guy's fashion his ass, but somebody certainly helped him in that particular fast. What is the coach doing?
Starting point is 01:31:54 Okay, so obviously we know in other sports, there's an offense coordinator, defense coordinator, uh, there's a lot of that happening. There's bench coaches in the NBA. They deal with this. You deal with the wings. You deal with this whole thing. For the at each of what? There's special teams, coaches, which is what, penalty kill and power play and everything like that. What is the head coach doing? Just scheduling, narrative, mission, like, how much coaching is happening game to game, like in game? How much of that is happening during games? So it'll change a lot from the regular season to the playoffs because you're playing the same opponent for so long, right, in the playoffs. So Bednar is a guy
Starting point is 01:32:30 that he's the only coach I've played for in my career. I think I played for, five maybe. He does almost not all the work, but he does a ton of the presentation and meetings himself. A lot of guys will set it off to their assistants to run meetings, but he runs almost all of his meetings. So we have a head coach, a forward coach, and a defensive coach, and a video coach and a skills coach. The forward coach runs the power play. The defensive coach typically runs the penalty kill. Of course, the head coach has input and all those things. But the forward coach will run the power play meeting, the defensive coach will run the penalty kill meeting with input from the head coach. But Bednar will run his pre-scout meeting five on five, four on
Starting point is 01:33:15 four, six on five, the morning of the game in front of the entire team where a lot of coaches don't do that. Bednar shows a ton of video. There's a ton of explanations. If I had one critique of him as a coach, his meetings were too long. Every player would say that. Players hate meetings. He'd probably say my attention span was too short. Actually, no, he would say that. But he doesn't, a great job of just doing a lot of the work himself. It's really unbelievable to see because he came up through the East Coast League, which is level before the American League, and then he was in the American League. So he's used to doing all that stuff. But he does a ton of the work himself, of course, with the help of his assistance. But he's a coach that does not
Starting point is 01:33:52 really rely on a lot of people to do a lot of the work for him. He works his ass off, and that's why he's such a good coach. It's unbelievable how good he looks if he works his ass off like that as opposed to what everybody else does. I think that Oklahoma City, Wasn't he G-League coach too, Deggs, before he went up there? Yeah, there's been a few of those. Yeah, and they've been, like, coming up through the system, you learned, obviously, the building, the team, the organization, the players, the ideas, the mantra's like, I think that's a good little feeding ground, obviously.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And then sometimes you'll just get your ass fired and then picked up at another place. Sully did a lot of great years in Pittsburgh. And then he got fired, and then exactly what you said happened, somebody will pick him up in two minutes. He went to the Rangers. And then the Penn's wanted to the playoffs. Yeah. And the Rangers did not now.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Would you like to break some news, E.J.? Let's break it. Okay, I don't know. You would have to be the one that would break the news. Is McDavid coming to the Pittsburgh Penguins? I'm going to have one hot take for you right now. I think one of Austin Matthews or Connor McDavid will be on the Minnesota Wilde in the next three years.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Wow. That's my hot take. I think they're going to find a way to get, they need a center. That's Minnesota's clear Achilles heel. they need a number one center. I think Bill Garron finds a way to get a Matthews or McDavid and Minnesota to push them over the edge.
Starting point is 01:35:13 I really do. That's my one hot take for the day, boys. Okay, I like that we're doing hot takes from a horse farm. Now, Minnesota, Billy G. said he's going to get active too. Yeah, Hornell, when you hear Billy G. say that nobody on the team is safe as far as, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:28 it can be moved or anything like that. If you're on that team, does that make you feel better? Or does that one of those things where it's like, that's part of the business because as a Boston Bruins fan, I would love to see Matt Boldie Donning the... I'm not Quinn Hughes coming to the pens. Yeah, maybe. Well, he's a free agent, so it feels like if Jackie Hughes
Starting point is 01:35:46 doesn't bring his brother home, then maybe he does. Oh, he was kind of sucking up to him yesterday on air. Yeah, they were kind of. Yeah, Jack Hughes was sucking up to Quinn Hughes on air yesterday. They were trying to get him over there to New Jersey. Sorry, we just interrupted that, but what does Billy G mean when he's saying that? So it's, I think, unnerving as a player. I've been in a position where,
Starting point is 01:36:06 I thought I was never going to get traded when I played in St. Louis, and I got traded in my third year there. Very surprised. And I've been in a situation where I thought I was going to get traded and I did. So I've kind of worn both of those hats and both are really uncomfortable positions. But I like that he said that because at the end of the day, he's right. Are there guys that you're going to not listen on probably if you're a GM? But if someone knocks your socks off with an offer, you're going to take it if you think you make your team better. So I think he's aggressive, and Minnesota showed me a lot this year. They're a way better team than I thought they were,
Starting point is 01:36:40 and they especially raise their level in the playoffs. If they get that center, whether it's McDavid, Matthews, Hughes from New Jersey, I don't know what they're going to do, but I like that Bill Garron said that. I do like that because they're a team that their windows wide open. They just need that one more piece down the middle, and I think they're a perennial contender. I mean, imagine that series against Colorado if they had an elite center. didn't have Joel Erickson Act with injury, but they gave Colorado the best team in the
Starting point is 01:37:08 NHL right now, bar none, in my opinion, a real good run for their money without really any center depth. So we'll see what happens, but I like that line. I think it's good. It keeps everybody honest and nobody's safe. Bar none. Jordan Davis with a banger. You as well.
Starting point is 01:37:22 We appreciate the hell out of you from that horse farm. Tell those mayors to stay away from the lightning, please. Yeah. Thanks, boys. Cheers. Have a great day. Hey, stick tops to you. Horton.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Harno. Sixthap. Hordo. He didn't take your shirt off today, Horno. Good work. Eric Johnson. Hey, Hortle. That guy's got a future.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Yeah. He should just be maybe live streaming all the time. He ride horses? We didn't ask me if he rides the horses. I would assume he's like a cowboy. We assume he's side-saddling. I would. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:37:55 He is huge. You think he rides? Yeah, me so cowboy. For sure. You think he's watching the mayor go through what she's going through? to hop on the back of that thing? No. Might feel bad.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I think it'd be pretty dangerous. Those horses are incredible species. Oh, yeah. I think that is something that every time I watch like a horse thing, I happen upon it, you learn more about these creatures. They're up there in my top five animals. Top five animals. Every time I see a horse in person, I'm like, geez.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Like, they're just, they're amazing. Well, and allegedly they have an ability to kind of sense things. That's why I thought about maybe the rain, but I guess they lose that sense in another way. They love lightning. So fast. So fast. They need to step away from the lightning, it sounds like. But, hey, that's the pipes underneath.
Starting point is 01:38:35 How could they ever know? Yeah. How can they ever know? They did a lot for our culture as a whole. Oh, yeah. This is a pretty big part of our history. Huge part. Before Hank Ford, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:44 That's how we explored the Great West. It was before Hank Ford. Right before Hank Ford and the Model T around 1920, yeah. Horses. Yeah, horse are a big deal. Not alone Washington. If I'm going to buy a horse. Can we get some PVC pipes buried in the ground?
Starting point is 01:38:58 They don't cut it. What do you want to drink plastics? He said it's carrying water. Like, why it's not going to, lightning's not going to be attracted to a PVC pipe. How many miles of pipe you want this guy to lay? There's already been water pipes out to the farm probably for what, 50, 60 years out of there? Two-year job on trench and all that stuff. You're going to do it?
Starting point is 01:39:18 It's expensive. How much that costs? Depends not by horses of the year. In a horse business? You lose a year. Well, John Deere certainly has the product you need to do that. Without a doubt. Okay, no questions asked.
Starting point is 01:39:29 But that's going to take some time. Not long. Time, money, resources. It's dirt. It's popping. It's precision. This guy. You got money for the horse.
Starting point is 01:39:37 All you need is one leak from this thing that you're putting in there and what? Now the horses can't drink. Now they starve. Yeah. Dehydrate. And they die. Okay, age. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Let's worry about that instead of the piping that's bringing the cold water to these horses. Dissentary. Fuck. Let's talk about some other news stories. Okay, around the world. And shout out to these horses battling out. God forbid you got to run on. extra long hose out there.
Starting point is 01:40:02 God forbid all the horses die. Are you going to unravel that hose every time? Yeah, I got it. I'll do it. Super long hose. Get a bunch of kinks in it. Yeah, exactly. That is tough.
Starting point is 01:40:14 That is tough. I got to get Tim Allen to teach me how to wrap it up properly so it doesn't kink. Listen, I don't know how long we can do this one, you know, but what I've learned is even this one is now being defeated by these new rubber hoses that are not supposed to tangle. But they just find new asshole ways to tangle. I'm sick of the tangle-free stuff that's not tangle-free. They're saying these extension cords these days,
Starting point is 01:40:37 you aren't even supposed to do it that way. Yeah, it changed. I'm not supposed to do this. Get the fuck out of my face. Who's they? Exactly. People that never thought that. I still do it, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Yeah, of course you do. Big extension cord. Extension cord's got the cranks. You can just put on there and just... Them fuckers are nice. I think they also got a... Yeah. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 01:40:59 They got a... Yeah, if you want some weak-ass extension courts, yeah, sure. No, the problem with the Pff is it inevitably sits on top of each other and stops, and you've got to, like, re- Yeah, I got 200 footers only, so. 200. All right. Tone, I got good news for you. Ladies and gentlemen, 10 international games coming right out.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Wow. Expandment games! Yeah. Good for the world, good for the globe, good for the game, okay? This is what we like to see. And that's obviously just a Brazilian picture that was utilized. That country was added to the... countries that were hosting NFL games of importance, regular season games just a year or two ago.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Now they're traveling to Australia for an actual game, first game of the season for the Los Angeles Rams who are going to be on primetime throughout the majority of the season. One of the biggest stars of the NFL season next year is down in Australia to start against who. Oh, the San Francisco 49ers is one of the biggest fan bases on earth. I guess no game is safe now. Any game could potentially be made an international game. There used to be some games where the home teams could say we got to keep this home game. We got to keep this home game due to fans or due to the business or due to the tradition. I guess the way it was written is no game is safe. Any game could go anywhere. Yeah. That's NFL football. Now, for more on that, we head over to one half
Starting point is 01:42:12 of the hammer. God. Cowboys AP tone. More countries experiencing more games is good for the league? Yeah, more team. Why are you making chat GPT graphics or groc graphics saying shrink the game? it does feel like there's people that are kind of... They're okay with the international growth, but we don't need to be overdoing it. It's seemingly the reaction from most or some, I guess. Yeah, even I was originally fine with it. I mean, but then it reaches a point where it gets a little bit out of control.
Starting point is 01:42:40 And now, now the big part of this is not going from eight to ten games, which is, you know, it's significant. It's the non-projected games. If I have to watch Packers, Bears, Steelers, Ravens, Patriots, Bills, in France. Yeah. I agree with that. I'd be out.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I'm good with that. Grow the game, baby. I'm not all in. You want Steelers Ravens? You're a seller. You're a seller. Because if we're getting like a Steelers Ravens, maybe some of these.
Starting point is 01:43:09 You want Patriots? Say it's supposed to be in Gillette. Just let me walk you through this, Tony. No, you've walked in me. Patriots. Supposed to be hosting the bills and now they're going to host them in London. You're going to be happy about that? Let's say they're over in France.
Starting point is 01:43:21 And all of a sudden, France is going through a little bit of a, you know, down year and people wanting to play sports. Exactly. France doing France things. All of a sudden, they watch a Steelers versus Ravens game. They watch a Packers versus Bears game. They watch a Patriots Bills game. And everybody in their country starts smoking sigs
Starting point is 01:43:38 and doing dip. I think everybody in France does smoke sacks. That's true. That's true. But stuff of that nature. Wine sales go down. Loggers, chilly ones, beer sales go up. All of a sudden, we're talking about countries completely changing their GDP and generational kind of sports and people growing up as more so like
Starting point is 01:43:58 what's the teams were doing about? You don't think Dolphins Cardinals could do that? That's what I'm saying. Bingo. You don't think Dolphins Cardinals could do that in France? I don't give them that. I don't give a shit about any of that. I don't want fucking division games.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Pivotal division games played in other countries. Tony's exactly right. If Packers Bears, Packers Lions, something like that is in fucking China or something like that, boy. We're not going to communism. Not yet. We're not going to copy.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Fucking Bageladette. There's not a game in China. Give it a second. There's not a game in Japan. There was before, though. So there is precedent for games, NFL games. Exactly. They can go to Australia.
Starting point is 01:44:35 They go to Japan. It might figure out Saudi if they get it down. Saudi's interested. They're sniffing around. See, everybody I think is because it's the NFL is the biggest league on Earth. So I do believe... Communist China ain't getting a division game. You don't know that?
Starting point is 01:44:47 I'm not going to go after you draw your line. They might play a football game in fucking Tiananman's before the end of the decade. Let's go to Mount Fuji, though. I mean, Japan would be cool. Everybody's overreacting. It's good for the game. We're overacted about the division stuff?
Starting point is 01:45:01 The division stuff. Can't have to. I think it's good. Colts play the Jags in London. Well, that doesn't count. What was the last time they... That's disgusting. But what if it's a Jacksonville game?
Starting point is 01:45:15 All right. All of a sudden, you know what? Let's take it to France. And then you guys might win. All right, we're talking about the world. We're talking about sport. Remember, more. Sports in the world is good.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Agreed. I stand by that. I don't think they should have worded it. Like, hey, the big rivalry game that we all look forward to in the cities, that used to have, like, city rallies to go hate the other team. They should have said in there that they're not going to take those. They should have said that. Bill's Chiefs in Moscow.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Sign me up. See, that's your problem. You don't like it. You don't think Panthers, Falcons over there could do the trick. That's fine. I don't love that. I want to see. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:45:53 We'll allow that. Allen, Mahomes, the Kremlin. Show me. Show me something, Rod. Putin would score three tides. I mean, we understand that it takes place. But we just, we think sports for the world is good. But we would like to keep the reason why the sport is potentially beloved, why the
Starting point is 01:46:10 sport is beloved. You can't be taking the rivalry matchups and traveling them around the world. Remember, this is a guy that wants a Super Bowl internationally. That's not what I said. I made some salient points as to why it wouldn't. make a little bit of sense. And I think what he was trying to say is for the good of society, we need more ball. Oh, the world doesn't need football? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. The football tells such a beautiful story. It does. Any body shape can become a professional. Anybody can play.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Any socioeconomic status, any political affiliation can play football. Now, with flag, it makes it much easier as opposed to the pads. And it's going to take a little bit for some of these countries to buy into ball. But I'll tell you, if they get a chance to see The Arizona Cardinals and the Miami Dolphins. Take each other. I think they're going to love the game. I think we need to appetize her first before we start sending the steak in there. Like Niners Rams, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:07 That's bullshit. But Australia, from watching Ozzy rules football and from their culture, and they also have Aussies that have been in the NFL so they know the sport, I think that country is ripe to fall in love with American football. So I appreciate us taking a game there, which can't be taking in a big one. These nations made their bed when they picked soccer and cricket and rugby and shit. They had their chance. They could have been a football country many, many years ago.
Starting point is 01:47:33 They made the wrong choice. Boys, why are you? They made their best. What are we living in 100 years ago? Now they got to sleep in it. Those countries probably watch Panthers, dolphins, and said, why would I ever watch this again? We got to send some of our head honcho. Okay, Carson Wentz needs to play in all these games.
Starting point is 01:47:48 I'm good with that. I'm good with that, too. All right. We'll continue you. He's the global QB. James and Carson are always the quarterback of the teams that go over there. Let's talk about actual global game and global competition. Sure.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to make a massive announcement in the golf world. Oh. Everybody knows the Ryder Cup, which is USA versus Europe. The President's Cup, which is coming right up this fall, is the United States of America against the world excluding Europe. We lost to Europe. We're going to get their ass next time. But we have a chance on redemption in the President's Cup to really claim stake to the golf game yet again.
Starting point is 01:48:29 But if we lose to the world, dark days ahead in the optimism. A man who's been tasked with being the captain of the President's Cup team, fresh off a Myrtle Beach win for the PGA a couple weeks ago. And at one time, the 2007 PGA rookie of the year, icon Brian Stenegger. Hey. How you doing, Ball? Doing good, man. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:48:54 I'm still laughing about the last discussion, so bear with me here. Do you have anything to add? Would you like, because you are looking at. I mean, just the thought of Tiananmen Square getting brought up at football about, about me down. I mean, I love these conversations. Wow, I'm a huge fan. Thank you, Captain.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate that. We also appreciate the fact that you're leading the lads in a redemption, hopefully after what happened in the Ryder Cup. against the world's golfers in the President's Cup. I believe today, massive day, because we're about to have the captain's assistance officially announced.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Would you like to announce who will be joining you, and what are the jobs and the gigs of all of them? Yes, my first two assistant captains in the day. Their job is to kind of keep me on task to make great sandwiches for the guys to kind of be the moral support for the team. To help me not mess up, most importantly. But my first assistant captain is going to be Jim Jurek, recently announced
Starting point is 01:49:49 2007 Ryder Cup captain so obviously 225 he was the President's Cup Captain. I'm very Jim's the best. He is a winning captain in Montreal last time we played the President's Cup so have somebody with his experience on teams
Starting point is 01:50:03 extremely valuable. Okay, love that. Okay, so you got Jim Furik helping you out, not just making sandwiches, also sharing some game. Who else is a captain's assistant that will be leading us in this world battle of golf,
Starting point is 01:50:14 the President's Cup? The previous Rider Cup captain, Keegan Bradley will be my second. Let's go, baby. King. A couple northern lads here. I obviously appreciate the decisions that were made. And obviously, this is still pretty far out. September, October, whatever the case is. And how do we feel that?
Starting point is 01:50:32 How are we going to boat in this? Because I'm going to be honest. Europe had a lot more moxie when the riders cup. Europe had a lot more fun. Europe obviously was making every single put. Is it a battle of who's hot? Or what is your real goal to get this team back on top of the golf world? Yeah, I think you hit on the head.
Starting point is 01:50:48 I think just trying to get these guys as relaxed as possible. You know, these things are so stressful, you know, being part of a team, not wanting to let your team down, not want to let your country down. I think, you know, at times in years past, we probably cared too much and probably put too much on ourselves. So, you know, I think my role as captain and using Jim and Kegan as helpers is to kind of make sure these guys are as comfortable as possible, make sure we have a good plan in place.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Make sure the crowd's rocking. We're going to be in Chicago. What a great sports town. Madonna is going to be our biggest build-out ever for President's Cup on U.S. Seoul, so it's going to be rocking. We'd love to have you there kind of broadcasting for the week, so that invitation's out there for you guys if you want to come up. But Chicago is a great sports town, so we're looking forward to having a great time. Okay. Listen, if we're a part of American greatness, we certainly love that, especially in the sport world,
Starting point is 01:51:36 as we can rally around the lads as they take on the world who will be rallying around them. Hey, no pressure. We're 13-1-1 in these things. Okay. Not bad. Exactly. Pretty good. Let's go, Brandt.
Starting point is 01:51:48 We appreciate the fact that you're the captain. We're very thankful for the opportunity to potentially travel out there. We'll have to check the schedule. It is in the middle of football season. But if we can get out there, we certainly would love to celebrate what you, Keegan, Furek and the boys will be cooking. Thank you for joining us, Brant. And congrats on the win just a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:52:03 That had to be awesome. That had to feel pretty sweet. Thanks, I got one for the old guys. It's nice to know you can still do this every once in a while. Hell yeah. Listen, I got this thing. this thing just makes every put for me is that right it does I actually switch to as well so it's unbelievable
Starting point is 01:52:20 it helps me can help anybody why is this thing why am I putting good with this though is there a reason like what should I think about why it's working so well don't overthink it pat I think we I think that's a pretty good rule for you not not overthink anything smart let me smoke a little bit more here the man there's the gentleman's brantznetterger that's good coach and you hear what he did yeah he's bringing that to the president's coach yep
Starting point is 01:52:47 Did we break the news about that two years ago that's coming up here in a year? I forget there was some golf news. We broke that Furik was going to be the captain of the 2025 one. In 2023 we broke that. Or 24 one, whatever it was. You remember we broke the news like 10 months ahead of time. And we were pumped because we were part of some news breaking golf. We like golf.
Starting point is 01:53:05 We love golf. But then immediately as it happened, we're all like, man, we're not going to talk about this for a long time. No, and we didn't. But this we will. Yeah. Giggs gets a chance to bounce back. Snedd understands a program.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Talking about Tiananmen Square. We're a bit. And then obviously, Furek, Pittsburgh guy, let's go win. Let's beat the world. Excluding Europe. And in turn, the world, excluding Europe. Good luck to you. We hope your golfer show up.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Because you think Scotty's losing back-to-back international affairs. Yeah, right. Snatikers hat. Did you see that thing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it looks sick. Those three letters mean so much, and they're going to wait. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:40 A long time from now. We'll talk about that thing. We'll continue. As Sports Center takes it over from here, we continue digitally. Goodbye. We only made one graphic with both captain's assistants on them. Sure. You guys saw that happening in real time?
Starting point is 01:53:52 Yep. Yep. Because he wanted to give love and praise to each individually. And as he was doing that, I actually thought to myself, fuck, we should have definitely made two different graphics. But instead, got through the first one, love that guy, big wide show. Hey, Jim, congrats. And then as soon as he says Keegan Bradley, it's like, here they are, by the way.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Here they are. They wouldn't want to be on separate ones. They're a team. They're so close together that they would want to be next to each other on the graphic. That's the type of rally that we want. need. Because remember, the team Europe golf team was all on a group chat. Yeah, they were, for years.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Singing songs, drinking beers, inside jokes. They're doing, oh, lie, a lie, oh, lie, al-lai. Olay. O'lai. We got Dishambo. Oh, yeah, speaking of Dishambo.
Starting point is 01:54:37 He has no, he's going to. We got bad news for Liv. What? Live golf. Yeah. Anytime you do money projections on the internet, you have no idea who has what information. Okay, because our type of contract and deals that we've been a part of have been
Starting point is 01:54:54 misrepresented for years online and in different publications and search engines and AIs and everything because if the information is out, it's just going to be assumed to be accurate, even though it might not be accurate at all. That is just our situation at all. Come out openly and said that's not the right number, okay, and it just continues to go. Anybody you look up like what their net worth is normally not going to be accurate because you have no idea what all, they're a part of and only things these are all just like projected things so it's hard to understand money and like the actual shit story with a business well what they're saying we live we need 250 million dollars really soon there's only a little bit of money left from the saudi piff fund and by the way
Starting point is 01:55:37 250 million you give today 20 months we'll give you a return i don't know if anything has been able to be able to become such a money maker so quickly so i assume they have a great idea for this but allegedly it's being reported that live needs 250 million a quarter of a billion now okay we need it now and uh less than two years from now you're going to be making money on that i'm excited i would like to see the pitch deck on that entire investors i would like possibly you i would like to see the path to success that they have because if they do have a path to success that they're saying within 20 months which would be a crazy turnaround just for any company any company that isn't headed by some massive AI tech company, $250 billion turnaround profit from a company that is at damn near zero right now
Starting point is 01:56:26 is an absurd. That's a very aggressive thing. Just from everything that we've experienced. Elon has done it 10 times. Okay. So people think that that's just a natural thing because we see fucking Bezos and we see Elon and we see these fuckers that are at the Ari Emanuel, just got a fucking football team. You see these people that are at the top of these things that run a few businesses very well. We don't remember about all the other businesses that happen that they do not do that. Turning a $250 million investment into a profit in 20 months is a very aggressive pitch, if that is what they are pitching. I would like to see what it is. It has to be a content play, obviously. Is it a TV network deal now that the Saudi money isn't in there? They probably think that maybe
Starting point is 01:57:06 it's easier to do. They have Deshambro, right? For now, that's the biggest thing is how many of these guys, how many, like, it's already kind of, these guys are already kind of exploring, like. Rombo is still there though? But is he already exploring going back to the PGA? Because like a lot of the, I mean, if that's the idea and this doesn't work, that's what I'm saying. So it's like if they get this investment or whatever and then by the time they actually do get it and half of the guys who we know are playing on Live right now have already started the process of going back to the PGA, then it's like how is it going to be profitable? You're basically holding on to the fact that we have Rom, we have DeCambo. and then if those guys go, like, what do you have?
Starting point is 01:57:46 You know what I would do? Okay. And this is just me talking spitball in here. Mm-hmm. I have Cam Smith, Rambo, Bombo, D. Shambo. Who else? Phil? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:57 He's going through something right now. We Bobbo. All the people that we've heard of, I would just have them play against each other at different courses. Mic'd up. Primetime golf. Yeah, that's what I would do. I do it in night golf.
Starting point is 01:58:08 That's the only way. And I'm having them play against each other at actual courses. They're wearing, they're doing, we're doing a golf broadcast. I would just take the stars, turn them into playing golf against each other. They have their own little league. You didn't even have some celebrities come through and play if you want to do some different. It's like TGL on actual golf courses? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Yeah. With celebrities. Like I think, and you can have the other guys golfing in there too, like, whatever you want to do. But the leaderboard needs to be all their big names. I need to be able to see it. Golf carts. And they have to do something different.
Starting point is 01:58:33 And now without the Saudi money, maybe somebody will pick that up. Well, I think we know who. Mike Rapoli. He doesn't give a fuck about that 20 months. You need to call him right now. And by the way, he'd probably love the TGL mix. Got to trim some of the fat that people really don't care about. Because to Ty's point, like, we need to either get our hands on these contracts or find out exactly what it is.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Because what Rom said made it seem like they're going to cut our hands off if we try and go back. That was when PIP was involved, though. He's probably not as afraid to get out of his contract now. No, that was after Piff. I think he said that he. If the league folds, he can leave before 2029, obviously. Yeah, because that would be. What's that called whenever you breach?
Starting point is 01:59:15 They would breach, sir. That would be a breach of contract? I mean, this would be the most, like, as Pete, damn, will this be a shizmick situation if they figure this out and turned it around, don't you think? Yeah, I would like to see what the pitch is. Yeah. I would love to be in there just watching that unfold. Hey, because you see it in Shark Tank, obviously.
Starting point is 01:59:31 That's real life. That is how shit actually gets done. Normally it's not just multiple people that are saying there. Usually it's one company. You go in there and you're selling. There's questions. There's asking. Boom.
Starting point is 01:59:41 There's activity. There's that whole thing. Getting up there and saying, This is what we think we can turn. This is what we need $250 million for. Okay, this guy, we're offering some crazy contracts to these guys. This guy's owed $180 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Like, what if that is the case? We owe this guy $75 million over the next year or something like that. That's probably a big part of the problem for them. Yeah. That's why they need the massive amount of money. But we think if we keep them, we'll be able to generate amount of money if we invest this much at $250 million in 20 months. The amount of people that probably said, okay.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Yeah. everyone they've mentioned that too so far. Yeah, okay. Sounds good. I would like to say what the idea was. Like, I would like to see what the idea. Like, how can you really improve or change? Like, I mean, is that enough if they go to primetime golf and we have a bunch of these guys who aren't what they used to be?
Starting point is 02:00:31 Like, is that enough to completely save this thing? Like, it feels like we already got the announcement. Like, Liv is dead. This thing is done. And I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. No, it's not. No, it's not.
Starting point is 02:00:40 No, it's not. We're going to pump some more cash into this thing. We're going to tweak a few things, and we're going to be right back where we said we will be. We need a little bit more of the cash to pump into this thing, possibly you giving us that as we continue to go. Golf's great. YouTube Golf has become a very viable business for a lot of different companies creating content. So maybe they've got a content strategy, man. So, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Remember Deschambeau's chip over his house? Oh, yeah? We DC that. So $5.5.5.000 was enough, but $2.50 is going to get it done. Yep. Different leadership, different decisions. Different ideas. different content.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Still golf, but louder. Maybe YouTube doesn't. They should go play it like Munis and have these guys shoot like 57, 56. Put lights in the courses. Yeah. Play at night. Bryson was doing breaking 50 at the latest major,
Starting point is 02:01:27 but on the front nine. Oh! Tony, don't! Okay. All right, the numbers. That was taken from the internet. Okay. I mean, at some point,
Starting point is 02:01:38 everything that's ever been said has been said by somebody on the internet. I mean, that is a real thing. I do appreciate the position that we are in, though. Every once in a while, I'll get it. You got that from blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay. I definitely did because I'm a huge fan of that person.
Starting point is 02:01:52 I have a lot of time to see everybody else's shit. Actually, when I log on that, I'd search that person's account. But on that note, I am honored that human potentially said the same thing that I said. And I often wonder if other people that said something I said, they get bummed out about. You know, you know, Pat kind of said, say, fuck, hate that guy. Fucking hate that guy. I wonder if that happens in the world of we're in. You know, I do.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Yeah. We're going to be around a lot of these people. Mm-hmm. We're going right into... Yeah, the belly of the beast. Yeah. Not the feral. No.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Not the feral swarm. No. We kind of are the feral swarm. Yes, we kind of are. Yeah, because they did bait us. Yeah. They have kind of baited us in there. That's going to be a big deal next week, AJ.
Starting point is 02:02:36 I'm actually very intrigued on how it all goes. Honored. Honored. you want to tucks yeah see what do we do here you know because there's the stories of like what the South Park guys did the first couple of that was my plane it's biz cash
Starting point is 02:02:52 I believe it's going to be a good show I assume right this is about shows I just saw YouTube is streaming it okay here we go yep sports Emmys is what we're talking about this is the first time I think we've really even mentioned that ESPN Mike Foss more specifically
Starting point is 02:03:10 Foste bossed a boss that's what they say. He's kind of on a run right now. A little bit. Housen is kind of hitting right now. Oh yeah. Heater housing, I believe, is what you could potentially be calling all that. But Foss, I think, so I don't want to sound like a dick, but the awards thing. I feel like if you have a job and you're able to talk about sports and make a living, like that's an award.
Starting point is 02:03:36 I feel like that's enough of an award. And then when I find out that the awards are you have to self-sense, you have to self-send, submit, like you have to say like, hey, and pay and like B, we would like to be awards. That made me feel just kind of like uncomfortable with the whole thing. Like, so I'm telling a bunch of people who for a long time of failure, have not been the biggest fans of how we, we operate at all openly. I think a lot of them have said that and acted in that particular fashion. So it just felt weird that we have to like kind of submit to potentially win from these people.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Like it was just a weird thing. I didn't like it. I didn't like how it all went down. I didn't like how invested a lot of people got because it felt like they were getting their hearts broken when I'm like, hey, I think you do a good show. I don't think you should be as bummed out as you are. And then the people that win, obviously we're pumped for how happy they were. But then it's also like, does this mean it? Like, I don't know what it means. So Foss, the boss, he's the one that submitted us, which we appreciate Foss doing that. Because what has come is a very cool, like, moment for a lot of us. It's like, hey, it's cool that our peers, I guess, would be in a this thing, have said like, hey, welcome to the biz almost, you know, in their own way. Now, do we think it's taken a long time? And has the road been very difficult to kind of see
Starting point is 02:04:50 eye to eye with these particular people? Yes, but it is very cool that we're getting acknowledged. You know, if that makes sense, even in the nomination for the award. And if we were to win, that would be outrageous. But I do fear that we're going to be walking into a place that is going to be buzzing there a little bit. And on that note, we ride in there. be riding there. That's going to be a good time in there. We should be riding in there correctly dressed as well. It's not business casual it, Texas, Fawcett, it is suits.
Starting point is 02:05:19 Yeah, that would make sense. I did see some people look very dressed up. The suits thing would make sense. But I was at a super suit event a couple weeks ago. Wasn't as terrible as I thought I was going to be. That was crazy. Yeah. That was a pretty eye-opening experience. It's like, these people aren't just like the absolute worst, I guess, all the time.
Starting point is 02:05:34 That's pretty cool. I had a couple of drinks with these things. They were great. It was incredible. Usually, yeah, once you meet people and you hang out with them for a little bit, you're like, all right, cool. I enjoy being around. Yeah, I kind of liked being in Indianapolis and not really knowing any of you, just kind of nameless, faceless suits. You know, that was a little bit better for my view. But once I get to me, these things have personality.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Yeah. You know, I love when you call them, they love when you say these things, yeah. They understand what I'm saying. They know who they are, too. They know exactly who they are. They know who they are. And we appreciate them now, you know, a lot more than maybe we did. years ago, but we are walking right into their little suit Super Bowl award show,
Starting point is 02:06:14 and we should dress for the occasion. Classy. Toxio T-shirt, for sure. Yeah, probably. I mean, there's no way I'm wearing a tie. I was just going to wear a black shirt with a coat. But here we are, and I'll wear the t-shirt. I'll play the fucking game.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Look at us. Huh? We're trying. I think we're trying? I suppose. We're going to have a great time, I think. I ain't talking to them. I know that.
Starting point is 02:06:39 I know that. You're going to have to, yeah. We're talking to all of them. We'll see. Maybe this is olive branch. It feels like it could. They should have con men should present an award. You should shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:06:51 That's why you should. How about that? Faso, Faso, put it on it. Fosso. Boss to boss. That's these people. That's what they call you, huh? Housing is awesome, by the way.
Starting point is 02:07:00 He is. What a character. Thank fucking God that the Knicks won last night after his entire. Because Bruce was actually worried. I retweeted this. And I was in it. I was in my office on a call. I retweet this
Starting point is 02:07:13 this particular post. I get a text from Bruce. It's like, hey, I think you accidentally reposted that. And I didn't know what, it was like 10 minutes later, five minutes later. I didn't know what the post. I was like, oh, fuck, what was it? It was this tweet. I was like, I thought he was on your side, Bruce. Bruce has the Housen mask. I mean, Bruce.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah, Bruce and Housen is really all in right now. He's a house in. Nix fans love him from my understanding. This is a good time to be the Housen in New York. We're all fucking housing out in New York. Shout out him. Is that a housing mask? I thought.
Starting point is 02:07:47 He was like Sting. Looks like a three ninjas mask. That's a three ninjas mask. He's actually cursing the Cavaliers. So we're all waiting on Dan Housen. We're all in on Fattabas. And yeah, Nixon four. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 02:07:57 Nixon four may be. Housin, big night for him. Huge. Look at him. This guy's going to be court side. He's going to be sitting with Timothy Shalachan. Good for you, Housin. Good for you, Housin.
Starting point is 02:08:09 He's in New York for the New York Knicks on first take yesterday. Oh, yeah. Do you see that? Oh, yeah. Housen's in the building. An hour. There's a good, he's got good brain, too. I appreciate the way Housen's brain operates.
Starting point is 02:08:22 I also like that Bruce is all in. He wanted to kill Housen yesterday whenever he was talking about the Knicks a little bit. And then he learned, oh, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. The second I saw him on NBA today, I was like, holy shit, he better not. I'll fly there. I'll kick Dan Housin's ass and I'll fly back. I won't even go over here.
Starting point is 02:08:38 You don't want to do that, Bruce. The Miz is on it, brother. The Miz's got to be heartbroken. Yeah, was he tweeting when they were up big or anything last night? Yeah, here it is. Good thing there are no curses, and tonight will prove it. Also, it's one thing to put fake curses on me, but my team, I will end you. The Miz doesn't know he actually cursed the calves.
Starting point is 02:08:59 It just kind of took a little bit of time to get there. It was late in the fourth quarter housing, and then it kind of really weren't crazy for them. The Miz is saying that there's no curses. There's people coming out and saying there's no monreading. What? Those people are wrong. That's a thing. That's bull.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Yeah, it's big bull. I will say? Briggs bull. I will say. Hilarious, hilarious Will Compton situation. Yes, yes it is. What's that fucking guy's name? Bryce?
Starting point is 02:09:31 What's his? Him just tripped. Bryce, that's what it is. And he looks it up and then, oh, it's Breece, you fucking, that's not the guy. It's the other guy. In the moment, Will knows, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:45 Oh, yeah. Because Will, me, because Will had a full embarrassment moment for himself whenever he couldn't remember Bruce's name. So that entire moment now becoming this entire thing about this guy isn't actually picking up his soul and getting inside your brain, believe it or not. It's like, okay. All right, we got it.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Well, the fucker's good. Yeah. And if you get to the point that you have people breaking down what you're doing in super slow-mo, that means your gimmick has worked. Agreed. So congratulations, the Oz. They're coming for you. They're coming for you, they're coming for you, Oz.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Batting down the hatches. But the gimmick, the gimmick worked. I think that is the only way you could describe that is if they're coming for you like this and they're exposing you like the, the mass magician came out whenever there was somebody who was really hot in streets back in the day. I forget it was. Magic was getting real hot, real hot, real hot. and then the mass magician came out
Starting point is 02:10:34 and was like, let me tell you why, everything you're looking at is bullshit. And I watched it because I love magic. And it was like, wow, they're actually just doing that this entire time. And then you have to kind of like bury that. Like, nope, nope, don't let that kind of be the thing. So you can suspend reality whenever you go back to a magic trick here in planet Earth, you know. So I've always done that.
Starting point is 02:10:52 But Oz, we're fucking watching you now. Yeah. You ain't getting away with any of this shit. No longer. And there are still things that, like, we couldn't explain. Like there are still multiple things that, and I get that aspect of it, but there are still things that he did just even behind the scenes that we couldn't kind of even figure out what he was doing after. My credit card number.
Starting point is 02:11:13 Yeah, your credit card number. Rogans. How did he know the draft order? Yeah, like he has a draft order. Yeah, birthdays. Just names and contacts of phones. Like there are still things that is impressive. But yeah, that gimmick, unfortunately, it does seem as though people are out on that part of it.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Well, congrats, Oz. And baby owes. Maybe O's. Might be good for book sales. Yeah, maybe he can write a tell him. What did we think he was doing? You know, I told him a demon. He's great.
Starting point is 02:11:41 He's great at what he does. He's awesome and he's very skilled. But like, yes. Charming? Oh, what is AJ saying? Funny. AJ's, you've always been a doubter? No, a doubter of what?
Starting point is 02:11:52 Like, we call him an alien and everything, but it's called magic. It's called illusions. They're tricks. He's a band to lift. We don't know how they do. I think that's the problem. He calls himself a mentalist.
Starting point is 02:12:02 That's what started this whole snowball going. The old buddy making a five-hour video. What was that mentalist on America's Got Talent? The two ladies, the lady and the guy. I love Matt. People probably know this about me now. Well, you do amazing. I don't know how you put that retucked out.
Starting point is 02:12:17 I don't know how you make that new. I don't have a handker. I thought he was a mind reader. That is a shame. That's not what you guys thought? I thought he was a mentalist. I thought he jumped up into my brain and got me a couple of different times. But I am a big-time magic fan.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Like if I'm in New York or one of these cities and there's a magic show, that is good. I don't want to go to some fucking little kid one. But if there's like a good magician, that means you're about to watch somebody execute some shit at a pretty high level in front of a live audience. I'll go watch it. I enjoy it. Trying to figure it out is all anybody's doing while they're watching magic tricks. Have we all caught people before in magic? Yes. But I think that's kind of a part of magic, you know?
Starting point is 02:12:51 It's just like, hey, he's doing his schick right now. He's doing his shit right now. Is he able to execute it? Oz was for a long time. It was. He had fucking NFL quarterbacks throwing a ball to different numbers for pin codes. That's crazy, too. Playing that, AJ.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Yeah, think about how he pieced that together. I don't know. Do you watch Penn and Teller Fool Us? Do you ever watch that? I have seen some of that. Yeah, I saw a good amount of that. Yeah, watching them call out other magicians for what techniques they're using that are, like, kind of inside behind the thing was funny. And then if they actually tricked Penn and Teller, it was like, for us.
Starting point is 02:13:21 So it's like, I think magicians have always been able to tell folks what other magicians are doing. Executing it, I think, is the big difference. Like John Dornboss, the long snap performance. they have the Eagles, then he goes down to the Saints. They find out during a physical that his heart was basically about to something, shut down. He gets emergency heart surgery. He comes back. He was on Ellen.
Starting point is 02:13:38 He was America's got talent. He was, he was awesome. His story was fantastic as well. Talking to him about what other people were doing was, that was an enlightening time in my life. Because I started, this show almost began every day with me popping about a, popping about a nothing. You know, like that is almost how a couple of these shows started. He's, oh, we could definitely make that happen. Let me call Bavada Bume to Banga the Pau.
Starting point is 02:14:01 And it's like, that's kind of the, that's the bitch. Yeah. Now wrestling. They work at it, though. They work out. I've talked to him a dude who practiced a trick for a year and a half before they even do it publicly. Yeah, exactly. So we still got a mass respect.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Good luck, guys. Good luck, God, yeah. Keep doing it, old. I think he's going to go through it a little bit, though. Yeah, just start running. Do the marathon thing. How does he run 100 miles in a day? Can't, can't freaking joke your way around that one?
Starting point is 02:14:27 Yeah, that better not be four guys. You know what they're saying about Frank Abagnow? Catch me if you can. What's that? The rat. He made it up. The fucking snitch. Because he did all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:14:38 And then the kind of first opportunity, you just said, I'll get out work for the FBI. That's a business opportunity. I mean, he was. He was protecting businesses is what he was doing. He provided opportunities. Sure.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Well, what they are saying is potentially his hustle is creating and faking an entire hustle. That's good hustle. Very good little hustle. Yeah, without a doubt. I was flying around, flight tenants, forging checks and things. Really? Yeah. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:15:03 Make a movie. Yeah. Spielberg made a movie. 10 million, $20 million. It's a good hustle, if that is the case. Oz had a good hustle. Yeah. No. Make the Oz movie.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Not a hustle. Guy's real. Just because some guy that won a Pulitzer says he's not. Bullets was a pretty big deal. Are they giving those out at this thing and that we're going to next week? I don't think so. We better get one.
Starting point is 02:15:26 I don't know. I don't think so. I think so. I don't think so. All right, let's get the hell out of here. We appreciate you all so much. I think we covered everything that need to be kind of covered in the sports world. PGA championship, big numbers.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Sports up and to the right. It's all you need to know. Sports are continuing to deliver, which is fantastic for all of us. Obviously, everybody that knows us knows that we are sports people. We fucking love sports, but we think there's a lot of reasons to love sports. no matter what the competition is, watching people have to show up and show out for a moment that they've worked their ass off for,
Starting point is 02:16:05 completely exposed, completely vulnerable for the audience to kind of see them go through the ups and the downs, willing to risk it all, their name, to go ahead and become or try to find some greatness. It's beautiful. Shout to sports. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Did I win that fucking golf thing? I'm about sick of these emails from this guy. No, it's tough. You didn't win. Day's almost dead. Hey, we got two more, though. All it takes is one. Sounds like this is a bigger scam.
Starting point is 02:16:29 than fucking breaking cards. I can't break the top 60 in that. I came in third. I was going to say, we got a couple guys. Out of 150 or whatever. Third? Mm-hmm. I have a top five finish as well.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Yeah. So we're looking at the FedEx Cup points right now. There's three or four of us in the top 25 in the year standings. Three or four of you? Who are they? Me, Connor. Ty and Foxy? Connor, are you finishing in top ten in this thing?
Starting point is 02:16:56 I don't know if I have a top ten, but I'm consistently, yeah, top 30. Foxy, what? You're in this thing as well. Obviously, it's your kind of club league. Yeah, I'm doing okay. So the key for people that don't know, you pick six golfers. You've got to have five guys make the cut. And I've done that in every single tournament but one.
Starting point is 02:17:11 So I'm doing okay. I'm not out of it yet. I fucking need JJ Spawn to pick it up. He was the one that did make. Yeah, he killed me. Yeah, me too. So that's the bottom of the barrel here. Everybody has a price and you're only allowed to spend a certain amount of money,
Starting point is 02:17:25 15 grand or something like that. I forget what it is? $10,000. 50. 50, okay. Everybody has a price. And then you've got to pick. like three golfers that don't have a high price value on them.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Right. It's like, how the fuck do I know? Like Scotty, Roy, 11 and 10.9. And then like Rom. You did better than Nick. What's that? You did better than Nick. Love that.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Yeah, I had Blocky on my team. What? Love of the game. Be your friend, tell friend, something nice with my change of life. We're interested in together. Appreciate you all so much. We're back tomorrow. Western Conference Finals. Tonight. Let's pick these games, actually.
Starting point is 02:17:58 AJ at 8 o'clock, hockey starts. Golden Knights avalanche. Who do you like? How do you like it? Give me the biggest golden at nights. I feel like on this one. Okay, I'll take the avalanche at home without McCar to see how it goes. Go ahead, Tone. That line went from minus 192 to the lanch.
Starting point is 02:18:17 It's all the way down to 175 currently. It just moved again now that McCar is at. Okay, so the favoritism is bouncing a little bit. They're at home. It should be a buzzsaw. Who's on the avalancheer? We'll see pregame. Okay, I like the avalanche.
Starting point is 02:18:29 Let's go to the 830. NBA tip of the Western Conference. Wemby takes on Oklahoma City. Favored by six and a half. Has that changed? Yes, it was seven and a half now. Seven and a half now. AJ, who do you like?
Starting point is 02:18:41 How do you like it? You know what? I got to take the Thunder here. I'm taking Thunder to win and cover. I feel like they rebound. Give me the Spurs, baby. Be a friend, tell her friend, something nice. It might change their life.
Starting point is 02:18:51 We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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