The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1558 - Wayne Gretzky, PGA Championship Winner Aaron Rai, Kendrick Perkins, PK Subban, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk and the boys chat about last night’s Western Conference Finals Game in both the NBA and NHL as the Las Vegas Golden Knights took the first game on the road against the Colorado Avalanche, and the Oklahoma City Thunder evened the series at 1-1 with the San Antonio Spurs, and look ahead to tonight’s Eastern Conference Finals game 2, what’s going on in MLB, and everything else happening around the sports world. They are also joined by several great guests including the undisputed GOAT, the Great One, analyst for the NHL on TNT, Wayne Gretzky joins the show to chat about the Stanley Cup Playoffs, hockey’s growth, the differences in the game, and more; PGA Championship winner, Aaron Rai; 15 year NBA veteran, NBA Champion, and ESPN NBA analyst, Kendrick Perkins; and lastly, 13 year NHL veteran and ESPN NHL analyst, PK Subban.  Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbleable, the Thunderdome, on this The Great One Thursday, May 21st, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports are the greatest stand, obviously playoffs last night. Hello, Vegas Golden Knights, and welcome back to the Oklahoma City Thunder. The playoffs have been spectacular, so many different storylines. Like, for instance, is that ethical ball that's happening over the Oklahoma City Thunder? The playoffs have been spectacular. So many different storylines, like, for instance, is that ethical ball that's happening over the... there in Oklahoma City? Obviously, they're the reigning, defending, undisputed, shout to Paul Heyman, NBA champs, and they have the back-to-back MVP. One of the first times that that's happened in the history of ball, and people are watching the games saying, I don't like this. What are we got going on? They're saying that they sent in a goon to attack Wemby and Hartenstein. Well, I would say you don't understand Hartnstein Bowl. This is kind of what he does.

He's not just a goon. He has this raindrop, drop-top touch that is capable. Ha-hee! up over Wemby, obviously. It feels like he potentially said to Coach Dags, I'll be the one. And we got how many files? I can potentially do that. And in doing so, he kind of flustered Wembe, pissed off a lot of people,

because not only do they now have a guy attacking the alien here, Hardinstein does this, by the way. He did it to the Pacers last year. He's a dog. Through and through. Always will be. Feels like this is his style of hoops.

He had one from the side as well where he shot that thing to the ceiling and dropped it down. He did it against the Pacers last. last year, but the flopping. Okay, you just can't do it. Can't do it. Especially when the refs aren't calling it.

Now, there was quite an advantage in free throws for the Oklahoma City Thunder over the San Antonio Spurs because remember that one right there really pissed to people. That's bad. Harrison Barges just kind of standing. Oh, whammy? We're out there. This is a close game. Every point matters in this particular thing, and the refs are calling it.

And we're seeing bodies flop all over to place. And everybody thinks to themselves, Oklahoma City, you don't have to do that. You guys are talented enough. And they showcase that they are. Caruso makes buckets again. Hartnstein, obviously, doing his thing. SGA goes off, which we all probably expected with what it was going to happen. And while he's hitting a massive shot to kind of seal the entire thing,

he's telling one of his teammates, hey, shut up to McCain, basically. Hey, listen, pal, I don't need you yelling in my back swing while I'm doing this. I'm the back-to-back MVP, please. Calm down. Please, okay? You don't think I, back-to-back MVP, SGA, don't know that you're open right now? You think me, point guard, that has been awarded the best player in ball back-to-back years, don't know that you're open right now?

I know that you're open, okay? And if you heard Chris Paul maybe yesterday and everybody else, basically the message that SGA has been getting seemingly from everybody around him is like, hey, need you to start going. You're trying to find the open purse because you're getting doubled. You're always going to get doubled. You need to take this game into your own hands. He started to do that.

Now, he was on a floor a little bit. He would all love that. People talk about that a lot. But I think what people were kind of reminded of last night is that this Oklahoma City team can win games. This Oklahoma City team can cover. Okay? Yeah. Crusoe could have missed that.

It could have. Caruso could have missed that. That game could have won a very different way at the very end. And, you know, maybe you fall asleep, you wake up a little bit later and you go, did not hit the – because I thought for sure Wembe would cover. And then you go, what were the covering? Just so I know, what were the covering points? And it's Caruso doing some freak show shit.

It's like, okay, pal. Maybe not how I want everything to. happen even though it had to happen but we move forward one one in the west in the battle of Golias and tonight off the jaws of defeat the New York Knicks 22-point comeback a run of all runs to end game one of the Eastern Conference finals can they do it again the Cleveland Cavaliers team coach Atkinson who said hey James Hardens been good defender all all playoffs for us we love this guy one of their best we love this guy now my eyes and stats were saying very

different things and I'm a James Hardin fan. It was just tough for that entire thing where he was basically pick and rolled 21 times allegedly was the stat. 21 times he was pick and rolled, which I didn't play basketball, but anytime we would play pickup basketball, I knew that usually the picks were to try to shuffle people onto different people. I potentially every once in a while with my build and potential look was somebody that people were trying to get on to somebody that had the ball. I knew it was happening. You're in the middle of war. I think this happens in basketball at every stage. It certainly can happen with Jalen Brunson whenever he's starts feeling hot.

And when Jalen Brunson starts feeling, he will check everything, and then he will make you look like a fool, and he won't blink the entire time. And he'll do his little celebration rate in your face. While Timothy Shalome is saying, I know, I knew it. And Ben Stiller's high-fiving, Tracy Morgan's going crazy. Jimmy Fallon's there with his kid. I mean, it's a New York celebration in your face, which is what happened to James Hart. I assume he's going to answer.

I assume Atkinson, the coach that stayed behind him, said, we played three and a half good quarters. Let's remember that. We beat the hell out of him in three quarters. Donovan Mitchell is now getting talked about as being a 20-point loss in a playoff guy, like a record that I think he's going to answer. Tonight, do the Cleveland Cavaliers tie this thing up in the East? Or does this become a little bit of a runaway and they missed out on their opportunity to steal one in Madison Square Guard and maybe catch the Knicks a little bit rusty. And then in hockey, we head to the East.

Welcome back to Hurricanes. Here we go, K-AX. Carolina Hurricanes sweep the first two rounds of the playoffs. Haven't seen them in forever. They are now at home taking on the Montreal Canadiens. Now, the city of Montreal, I think, sent me a tweet this morning. Okay. They sent me a tweet this morning.

It was something about how am I feeling about Montreal, okay? And I would like to say the way that I feel about Montreal right now is really high. I mean, when they were able to go into Buffalo, into that buzzsaw and get a massive win. Their home ice environment is something that I said, I wish I would have been at because they had fire and flames. A torch, I think, was being passed at one point. It was like an Olympic ceremony just to drop the puck here in the playoffs. It was something that was very special. I was super high on the Montreal Canadians,

but it's hard not to think about how dominant the Carolina hurricanes were. Yeah. And then you start asking some questions around to people that you know that played in the league a little bit. You know, we got Horneau in Illinois. Horno, Eric Johnson, 18-year NHL vet, get a chance to send him a text. Hey, what are your thoughts on kind of tonight, Montreal? He said, there's a chance. Montreal is a little bit tired.

his exact text was rather electrifying. It's buzzsaw, okay? Oh. A hornet's nest. You're walking up on a down escalator is how it feels to play in Carolina as an opponent, especially with how much off time they've had. He said that that's how much he thinks the Kaniacs matter. Now, remember, in hockey, we have been learning through stats

that the home ice thing may be real, like feel and see, but on the ice, it doesn't really matter. The Kaniaks have held true to the stats that. at home ice matters. They have dominated down there. Will Montreal look tired after a very long series with the caniacs coming off a massive amount of rest? Will they be more fresh? Will they be buzzing because of it? We shall see two games tonight and joining us in like four or five minutes will be the greatest hockey player that ever played. The great one Wayne Gretzky on TNT, which is obviously tonight eight o'clock. The toxic tables here had Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt,

one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone is your con man. Just saying that the great one, Wayne Gretzky's coming on is worthy of a wow type moment. But I, but I'm I think if we look all four teams in both leagues worthy. Yeah, no doubt. Every once in a lot of the team will get like hurt at like this situation. It's like this team is vastly different than the team that was like last round or maybe even the round two ago where they were able to slip through like an easy round. It feels like every night anything can happen.

Vegas Golden Knights last night getting a massive win over the a huge deal. Yesterday we're being told by E.J. that a Cole McCar being out is like the loss of a prime LeBron James, and it certainly looked that way, but NBA that can happen, NHL that can happen. Any night anybody can get it. Sports delivering in a big way, tonight's going to be no different con man. Yeah, very excited. Both teams in the West last night, losing Gillian Williams for OKC and Dylan Harper

with hamstrings for the San Antonio Spurs. That kind of thing is kind of great for the Knicks and for the... What happened with Dylan, was he coming back to play? He was trying to. Look like... Allegedly. and then one of those? Nope.

No, no, no, no, no way. But there was like an interesting situation because, I mean, maybe a decision was made by coach or something. Like, hey, hamstring, yeah, right, this is not how this is going to go, who knows? But, yeah, you're right. There is certainly now the attrition part of this entire thing. Yeah, both as well for the East as well with the Knicks and Cavs tonight,

and they're probably not too worried about it. Both of them have kind of had their rest. Not as much the cast, they haven't been as dinged up, but kind of big thing, that big horno, did say yesterday was the rest versus rust thing not being real. So to say that I feel good about the Hurricanes Caniacs tonight would be an understatement, especially because Montreal, I mean, they've played 14 games. Like that is absurd.

You wonder if Freddie Anderson, Fort Carolina, stays hot between the pipes. But if they're this rested, I believe Jarvie's boys will be on site. It does seem. For those that don't know, Jarvis, Jarvis, Jarvie plays for the Hurricanes, one of the young stars up there. He has a group of lads that we assume he's been playing hockey with since he was a wee little boy out there on the ponds in the ice in Manitoba. Yeah, juniors, obviously. Yeah, certainly through all the different leagues that they were playing at. They were a little pee-wee on the ponds kind of doing their thing. And they all knew that he had a shot to make it. And they became a tight crew. They

humbled him. They hardened him. They sharpened him. And they have followed him to Carolina. And they are certainly having a few. Oh, yeah. They are certainly having a few, good time. And they're cranking on the crank up there. Big time. And the vibe, I mean, everybody that's talked about Carolina, Jack Hughes a couple days ago, says Carolina's barn is the one. That is the one. Okay. E.J. Horno just goes, it's like you're walking up a down escalator. I don't know what it is. The Caniacs are ready for this entire thing. Should be an electrifying environment, which is good for sport touch, man. Yeah, without a doubt. And this is the, you know, even if you're not a fan of the NBA or you're not a fan of the NHL or you're just a casual

fan and you have no dog in the fight. Like, it's just the perfect time to watch all of these series, really. Like, even the Knicks game the other night, you know, you're thinking, oh, this stinks. If you just have it on and you kind of stick with it, exactly. Just hold. Same deal. Last night, Vegas and

the Avalanche, you know, Vegas gets up 3-0 and it's kind of like, oh, here we go. And then the Avalanche score, too. You just kind of got to hold on and trust that all of these games will deliver, and they have so far. Joining us now is a man who delivered on the ice for a long time.

Long time. 20 years. All of the records. So like sports have records. And there's a lot of records, right? Especially with the amount of numbers that you can have for stuff, how many periods are in hockey, how many different.

You know, you can certainly get an apple or you can get a goal, like there's so many different points or second assists. There's so many, there's a lot of stats that you can have, A, and hockey. The guy that's about to join us, that guy right there, incredibly handsome, by the way.

Watching the film, you would never think, he looks this good right now. Okay, the film looks like it's from 17s. Yeah, it looks like George Washington skating. It does. The advancements of technology and film and everything that it is, it's crazy that that was the quality versus what it is now. But even with the poor quality, kind of the finger paint look, you know who he is. Oh, yeah. Okay, he's faster than you are. He's scoring all the goals. And he had all of the records whenever he retired from hockey, still has a large majority of them. And now, obviously, a massive contributor in voice for the NHL on TNT. Ladies

and gentlemen, the great one, Wayne Gretzky. Yay! How you doing, Waino? Thank you. Hey, nice to be on the show. Great to be here. And I want to thank you guys for how great you've been for hockey. It's just wonderful to see.

That feels good. Doesn't it? Wayno, you're going to experience this. I think you experienced this the last time you were on when we were at at TST, I think. Any compliment you say to us is a massive ordeal because it does feel like an entire league and a sport is talking to us. through you. So thank you for that. Thank you for being such a great representative of sport and goats.

I think everybody has such massive respect for you. And on that note, let's talk about the NHL right now in the league that you were obviously a massive pillar of building and growing. Up and to the right, everything. Viewer crazy. And we're talking about some teams now. Obviously, Colorado has stars all over the place. Vegas has been here before. But whenever we were going into the playoffs, there's a lot of big names that weren't going to be in the playoffs. And it feels like the sport is thriving right now. Why do you think that is, Wayne? And Do you think that's only going to continue? It's only going to get bigger.

And let me say this. We have so many wonderful guys in the game of hockey. Not only are they great athletes and good players, they're good people. And they understand the responsibility of not only playing the game, but helping sell the sport. So I'm very proud to say I'm part of the National Hockey League. And listen, we're disappointed, we're devastated. We didn't win gold medal in February in Italy. but in the United States with the Americans winning,

hockey's gone to another level. And let's say this, every time the U.S. wins, Mike Ruzzi only gets paid for another four years. Hey, we love whatever he gets. He was on our show. He was on our show. I'm telling you, he's the highest paid player ever

who scored one goal in his life. It's a big one, no way, no. It doesn't happen to a better guy, though. He's just a wonderful young man. So good for Mike. But no, hockey is growing. You're right. And it's fun to watch.

Isn't it fun? Yes. And it's physical. It's hard. It's demanding. But my goodness, is it fun to watch? And these kids today, there's such great athletes. There's such good players.

It's so much fun to watch. Yeah, I love hockey. I have. I've been very lucky that I grew up in a hockey town. You know, in that hockey town, we had a lot of great players. We had Le Magnific, you know, Mario Lemieux. And growing up, I thought, him, me, Yarm or Yager were obviously the standard of excellence.

And then as I got older, you know, I continued to watch Sidney Crosby do his thing. And I'm like, yeah, up, there's the greatest of all time. Multiple times, I've said other people the greatest of all time. You know, what's amazing is twice. Now, Pittsburgh Penguins used to have their training camp in Bramford, 1967 to 74. And those days, the teams would be in southern Ontario.

So I used to go to their camps. Once or twice a week, my dad would get me out of school so I could go watch the depressive. practices. So I have this sort of relationship with Pittsburgh, but isn't amazing? Obviously, Mario's one of the greatest players who ever lived in the game and played the game and he's so good for a game. He saved a franchise there. And then you think years later, this young kid from Nova Scotia comes along and he does everything he's done. And it's hard enough to get one superstar in the city. But for this city of Pittsburgh, they have two, not only two of the greatest players who ever played the game, but two wonderful young men who know what, it means to be a Pittsburgh penguin and what it means to play in the NHL. The city, I'm sure, is very proud of both of them. Yeah, absolutely, very proud of both of them and very lucky to have both of them. I think I speak for Penguins fans everywhere whenever we say that, but I just was brainwashed

into thinking, though, that they were the greatest of all time. And then I'd like ask them and that you hear them talk and they're like, no, go look at the record books. Wayne Gretzky's the one. Now, on that note, Wayne O, Sydney's getting asked now, a lot of questions, especially as he's continuing this international play. And what a guy that just absolutely loves sport. His dad's over there at the International Ice Hockey Federation World Championship

that is currently taking place right now. And Sid was asked about how much longer maybe he wants to play. And he basically said he wants to play to the wheels fall off. Is that just indicative of the love of sport? Or how do you kind of feel like he views it here as a man who played 20 years in your sport as well? He wants to continue. And listen, he's our Tom Brady. He's our LeBron James, a guy that can still bring it at an older age.

No, face facts. He's not 18 anymore. He's getting older. I'll tell you funny Sidney's Crosby's story. They had this camp in California in L.A., San Fernando Valley. And they had all these kids come in. They were 18-year-olds. They were going to be drafted in the National Hockey League that June.

And I just retired. I went to watch these kids play, and I said, yeah, they're all pretty good. but who's that little guy out there? He's the best player out there. He goes, that's Crosby. He's only 14. I got my equipment the next day. I said, I'm going on the ice with him.

So I jumped on the ice with the kids the next day. I wanted to skate with him because he was that good. So we came back to my house after the skate. His dad and Sid and a friend of mine is agent at the time, Mike Burnett and Eddie Meal. I said, come over to my house. It was only 10 minutes away. Come over and have lunch.

So we're sitting there and his dad looks at him and he says, can I ask you a question? We had a two-on-one, and I passed it to him, and he shot. And he goes, don't you realize this guy had close to a thousand goals? You pass the puck back to him. Mr. Crosby, it's okay. He's going to be fine. But I could see it then when he was 14 or 15, how good he was,

and how much better he was than everyone else at that age. But Sid's remarkable. He's going to play. I say the same thing. You play as long as you want to play. Make them tear that jersey off you. Because once you quit, It's all done, right?

People say to me all the time, do you miss the game? I'm like, of course I miss the game. Problem is I can't play the game. Or if I could play, I'd be out there, trust me. Yeah, by the way, I think there's some teams that would love to have Wayne Gretzky from maybe one of these best seven. You can give us one, right? You can give us one.

We'll put you just in the third period or whatever. But yeah, everything you said there about Sydney, obviously Pittsburgh people have like come to recognize so humble. And the tear the jersey thing off, he like really feels that way. Like he is committed fully to Pittsburgh, because there's been a lot of talk about him maybe moving. He's also a big time distributor.

You know, that's a big portion of his game. So when you talk about him being LeBron, it might go back to when he was 14 and his dad say, hey, when Waino's on the ice, you pass the fucking puck thing. Okay, what are we doing, lad? That's a hilarious thought, and that's a big, shape is it.

All right, let's just make everybody. It's funny because they said, how would you know you were a goalie? That's awesome to hear. And that's the hockey culture. It does feel little. It feels like now a large majority of his K. No doubt.

Yeah. We have an influence in the game, but let me tell you, we're so proud of what we've accomplished in Canada, but we should also be proud of how we're growing the game. Absolutely. You know, it's bigger now in Finland and Sweden and Czechoslovakia. Hopefully one day this war ends, and we get the Russians back in the international competition

because there's some great players that come from there. But the Americans of what the Hughes boys and the Tichucks have done for the game, going back to guys like Brett Hall and Billy Garan and guys of what they did and Brian Leach and Chelyos. You know, we're so proud of our sport. There's no other way to say it. We're very proud of our sport.

And if you look around, there could have been 20 teams that you could have said they could win the Stanley Cup this year. And that comes from leadership. And so our commissioner, I think, is one of the best in all our pro sports. We have parity in our sport.

We don't have no weak links. There's no teams threatening to move or fold. And our game is growing each and every year. And that's the positive. Yeah, and obviously you talk about Canadian influence in it all. It has been fun to kind of watch the game grow to people that maybe had no idea what it was. I think a lot of people were kind of just regionally kind of phased out.

But now that Florida's having success and Midwest teams are having success and Vegas obviously having success. It's huge for the sport, I think. And obviously when Team USA, you know. Yeah, I know. Yeah. But let me tell you. No, no.

you know all the way. You know, that's a huge deal. Our women and our men win. I mean, that's a huge deal for a sport for like parents, for kids, for everything. It's like Jack Hughes becomes an immediate pop culture sensation. It's huge for the sport. You won three. They won the Paralympic goal too.

Oh, yeah. I forgot. We did have the clean sweep. First time since, I think ever maybe. I think Rick Middleton was a big backer, a great NHL player for the Boston Bruins. He's a big part of that whole culture and coaching that team. somebody asked him on radio the other day.

I was listening to him. How did you go from being one of the worst teams to one of the best in the world? He said, we're playing Don Cherry hockey. I'm thinking, how do you play Don Cherry and sled hockey? Like, I'm trying to figure that out, but he's working. He's getting gold medals. Yeah, certainly is Don Cherry bringing it, I guess, in Paris. It was fun to watch.

We had that... The superstar. Yeah, Farmer? What was his name? Declan Farmer? Yeah, Declan, I think, believe it. We had a guy who was... who was breaking all the records.

Good, like six goals in the championship or something. Yeah, I forget what it was. Remarkable athletes. Remarkable athletes. Yeah, and also awesome that it happened. Like, hell yeah. And they're dogs. I've run into some of the basketball teams, the wheelchair basketball teams.

And, you know, sometimes people walk up to them and, like, I think, like, talk to them as if, like, something's bad. I immediately walk up and talk shit to them. They immediately fire back. I mean, it is an immediate, like, they're obviously very competitive and it's like getting a chance and have such good sports to be able to do

hockey, basketball, everything. It's like sports, you know? We had this lady who worked in the office in Edmonton for years and she was in a wheelchair and she came down in the locker room one day and she said, Wayne, I'm trying to organize this charity wheelchair basketball game against the national team. We get

three or four of the guys and we'll go play them. I said, of course, so myself, coffee, Camelot, Messia, and her, that was our team. We lost 48 to 4 and she got both baskets. Yeah, they're physical too. Yeah, you guys remained healthy. Okay, that's incredible.

In the sport of hockey, obviously growing in a big way, has been for a long time. There was an initial move, you know. You going from Canada to L.A., huge deal. I think for the NHL and for the sport of hockey as a whole. I mean, you're a guy who came into the league, won the MVP, and then won seven more, I believe. One eight straight MVP's just coming into the. the league. Very good.

Yeah, kind of phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah, kind of phenomenal. So to get you more eyes potentially, I don't know if that was an actual decision I was talked about behind the scenes or not, but you go into L.A., big deal for the growth of hockey. Let's now, fast forward to now. Can we talk about, okay, go ahead, Wano?

I was just going to say, let me say this. When I went to L.A., I was a part of it. But we had guys like Luke Grover and Kelly Rudy, Marty McSorley. They understood where we fit in, too. They helped sell the sport. And then I got really, really lucky. the timing couldn't have been better. Messia was in New York with charisma and star quality

and a great player, Hall of Famer. Stevie Eisenman was in Detroit doing his thing and winning championships. And Brett Hall was in St. Louis. And Mario was in Pittsburgh. Each corner of the country had a guy who not only was a Hall of Fame player, but I understood his position

and trying to sell the game and grow the sport. So I caught a wave at the right time and we all pulled together and we all were a part of it. Well, I appreciate. the NHL having a forethought to do that and make that decision and the players that you just mentioned all legends and Hall of Famers understanding like, hey, we're working this thing. Like, hey, we are a league that we are trying to grow at this point.

We now have come at an interesting time here in 2026 with another Canadian superstar who I don't think a lot of the world gets to witness until playoffs. And if their playoff run is kind of cut short, it's like Connor McDavid being seen by people would be good for hockey. And I'm not saying that it's not right now because obviously in the playoffs he is. but that's a big conversation right now. How do you kind of view it versus like him potentially coming somewhere else or maybe moving or maybe Austin Matthews coming? What is your thoughts on players maybe moving for the good of sport maybe in league and also themselves, obviously?

Yeah. I don't think the players think about that. I honestly think they, you know, I look at Connor and I know talking with Connor, he truly loves playing in Emmetton. Austin Matthews, I'm told, likes playing in Toronto. You know, the world's such a small world today, right? You can see every game on TV. I don't think where you play now is a difference of selling the game or making the game bigger because the world is a smaller place.

My first two years in Emmington, I'll bet 40 of the 80 games weren't even on TV. It was on radio, right? The radio announcers were making more than the TV color commentators. You should see this guy. You can't. You can't. But this guy's unbelievable. Yeah, that's a funny thought.

So I don't think where the player plays now has a big thing. thing to do with it. Now, when there's voting that goes on, not a lot of the East writers see guys who play in L.A. because of later games and guys in Vancouver and Emmeton, that could hurt a little bit as far as voting for awards go. But as far as selling the game,

it doesn't matter what city you're in now. It's going to sell. All right. Well, tell Connor, if you talk to him, he needs to be coming to Pittsburgh. Or Boston. Whoa. Or Boston. Original city. Yeah. I think that's a conversation. You guys

have with corner yourself. No, no, don't throw us in it. That's what we're... You utilize, yeah. I kind of like my statue in Emmetton. I don't want to see it burnt down. Waito, don't say shit. Don't do not us ruin anything in the Great One's life.

Okay, let's pivot to current series that are happening. Obviously, tonight, the Eastern Conference will drop puck in for the finals for the first time, and the Kaniacs are back playing after a long layoff. But last night, felt like a gigantic surprise to a lot. of people that the Vegas Golden Knights were able to get one and not just get one. They look dominant early. Now, Avalanche were able to come back. They were out with McCar. What is your thoughts on the Western Conference that happened last night? And how do you think these two teams kind of

match up? Well, listen, I really like Colorado all year. And one of the things I like about Colorado is they face some adversity during the season and they still finished first overall. I'm not sure if you remembered it a few years ago in Boston set that record and we're on fire all year long and they had no adversity and all of a sudden they lost game seven to the panthers. So I like Colorado, the fact that they faced some adversity. I don't like the fact that McCar didn't play game one because now is he going to play game two or not? Like taking him out of the lineup and the great Eric Johnson told you guys, that's a big hole

to fill. And Eric does such a great job and analyze him so happy for him. But you don't replace Cal McCar. It's just as simple as that. So am I surprised at Vegas? No, they're a veteran team. They play properly. They're on soft, they play hard, and they're getting great goaltending from Carter Hart.

Good for him. And so now Vegas, and I said this when they won the Stanley Cup, Jack Idol was a superstar in that playoff run. And he's been good for them and solid for them this year also. And so Vegas is going to be a tough out, but Colorado's good. Yeah, Colorado, very good. Some are talking about maybe, hey, we might talk about this team as being the most talented or the best of all time. Then he lose one in Minnesota, and it's like, oh, Carolina didn't lose it, which we will certainly. get through in a second.

It's seven games. You know, that's the thing about playoffs. Tom Brady and I were talking about this when we were watching the gold medal game in Italy. And Tom said, you know, the Super Bowl and the gold medal game, anything could happen. The best

team usually wins in a four to seven series. Eventually, the cream rises to the top, right? So if Colorado is just good as their record indicates, they'll be fine. But Vegas is going to be a tough battle. Yeah, Vegas is going to be a tough battle, especially with the new skipper. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Wayno, what, I think this happens in hockey, maybe more so than other

sports, where a coaching change does happen, you know, maybe right before the playoffs like Vegas largely the same team, but what is it about torts that has kind of gotten Vegas to play at another level? Because they do look like a much different team now that he is at the helm than they did before he was there. First of all, let me say what he's done is miraculous. I mean, it really is. You go in with eight or nine games left in the season and you take over a team like that. It's an older team, a veteran team. And you got to go in there, and in hockey,

you earn respect from the players. You don't buy it or they don't hand it to you. And he's earned the respect of his players. You can see that on the bench. I think he's really settled in and really enjoying coaching this hockey club. And I think this is the happiest I'd probably ever seen him on the bench

since he won the Stanley Cup for Tampa Bay and, oh, what, five or six? So, you know, it was the right? called the right time and he's doing a tremendous job good for him so what is he's he's a perfectionist just super accountable he can always find something that's miserable and fixable we have a lot of those coaches is that kind of his thing i think his thing was he was a big teacher to young players and this is a veteran team and i think he's taking a step back and said you know what i don't have to tell him how to do this or do that and i'm just saying this and seeing it from the outside like you

guys i'm not in the inside by any means but that's what it looks like is that he's standing behind that bench and whether they're up one-nothing or down one-nothing, his players get the feeling from him that he's still extremely positive and that they're in a good spot. Good for the lads over there in Vegas. They need it, man. I mean, every team needs it. And then let's pivot to tonight.

There's a rest-vers-rest conversation, especially at one particular position. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, definitely, Wayne. Let's talk about the rookie versus the vet in net tonight. Dobesh, the rookie for Montreal, who's been incredible, especially after a loss. And then Freddie Anderson, who's been in the league for 12. 12 plus years. How do you think the rest versus Russ at that position is going to be tonight? And then as a goal scorer for you, would you rather be facing a rookie or would you rather be

facing a vet who maybe you know more and have like more tape on? Well, first of all, I'd probably rather face the rookie because everyone's human, right? And until you get in that position, you're going to be a little bit nervous. But good for him. He's played it unbelievable. I can't figure out this eight, nine day rest thing because I happened a few times in my career. where we had the eight days off and we took a couple days off and then practiced

and there was a couple of times where he skated the crap out of us. I can remember all of us yelling, we're going to go seven games in next series because we don't want to skate this much in practice. So I don't have the answer for that one, right? I think, though, what Carolina has to do is come out the first 10 minutes,

put their toes in the water, just get comfortable again, get back into that game mode, because it doesn't matter how much you practice. It's not the same feeling as a game. They'll be okay. They've got a veteran coach. They've got a veteran team.

They just got to withstand the first 10, 12 minutes. Montreal, they're going to be fine. They're playing on high octane right now. Their enthusiasm and their energy. Their best players are playing well, and you can feel it. You can feel it in the TV watching them. They don't believe they can lose.

They got beat 8, 3, at home in game 6, and came back in one game 7 in overtime in Buffalo, which I couldn't believe. So Marty St. Louis done an incredible job. Roddy Brittenmore, he's done an incredible job. This is what it's all about.

It's exciting for hockey and everybody's excited about it. Yeah, Montreal is jacked up. I mean, that place... We're going there Sunday, and we've got the F1 race as a bonus. The F1 race is in Montreal and Stanley, our Eastern Conference Finals game there?

Race Sunday, game Monday, Wednesday. Oh, oh. Montreale. And I don't know if you know, what just happened too. I'd like to say, Bravo Ovetois de Montreille

Porsche Championin. They just won the PWHL, I believe. The Montreal. The Walter Cup. The Walter Cup. I asked my son, I said, did they name that trophy after my dad? He said, no, no. The guy ran the league. I said, oh,

okay. You got an answer for us. I told all my friends, oh, yeah, yeah, they named it after my dad. Wayne Oh, whatever the case, it might have Gretzky ties because the Montreal Victoire, who won that, celebrating in a huge way, Wayno.

I don't know if you saw this. We're salamming beers out of this cup after winning the PWHO shot. Look at us. Salamming beers up there after beating Ottawa an all-Canadian final up there for the PWA. It's a Molson arena. I hope they're drinking Molson.

Triple X is only. I'll tell you what, whenever we used to, look at that. I mean, they are getting happy. Hey, respect. Congratulations, Montreille, Victoire. Okay, now let's move to the Canadians and that environment that we got a chance to witness from home. And hockey environments are awesome all over the place.

I think there would be a lot of fans, especially across the Canadian provinces that would say, are barns the best barn. Right now, the Montreal barn is going to be showcased after Carolina. I think it's the right one, too. The watch-alongs filled arena, as people going crazy. What do you think people are about to learn about this Montreal fan base?

And how should this be? there and how should we expect it to kind of go for this run from F1 to game one, game two of the finals? Jesus. It's remarkable, isn't it? It just shows you the passion that people have for the sport in our country. I can remember playing in Emmetton and coming out after the warm up for the first before the anthem and the people standing in the stadium and cheering and clapping for minutes on minutes before they even started to play the national anthem.

And Montreal looks like the exact same thing. It's just chaotic there. These people live, die, breathe, think hockey. It's a national pastime, obviously. And, you know, they're a storied franchise. They're up there with the Yankees and Montreal Canadians. And they've waited a long time for this. I think the last time they won the Cup was in 1993.

So these people are ecstatic and excited about it. I know I'm not going to go too far with biz. We're just going to kind of sneak into the arena and sneak out. So that's all I know. Yeah, smart. I love what Biz has really built himself into in the hockey world. I see things in commercials. I see arenas.

I see players. I mean, Biz is the right one for it. All you. You guys are great over there. Thank you. It's fun. You know, we got a great group. I was saying to someone today, you know, we've been together four years.

I don't think we've ever had an argument. Liam is our quarterback. He directs the traffic. it's a fun group, it's a good group. There's no egos. We love the game. We try to promote the game, and it's just a lot of fun.

You know why there's no egos, Wayne? I don't know. Check them at the door? No, yeah, you know, because you're fucking, yeah. So that probably happens a lot with you if I had to guess. Yeah, that's like... No egos in the room.

That's like when I was with Peyton, when I was with Peyton, he's like, everybody kind of drops their egos at the door whenever Peyton Manning walks in all of a sudden. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, we're all kind of on the same level here, and that's doing this one right here. So I think that's because of their captain, pal, okay?

And I think it's because of you. I think you've done a great job doing TV. And I also appreciate the fact that you give back to the game a lot. I really do. Now, you are forced to pay attention to the game. I think you would probably do that anyways. But for TV you are. I assume there are some thoughts in that competitor brain of yours.

Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Wayne. No, Pat mentioned it earlier on. Like, you having 61 records in the NHO when you retired is ridiculous and just going through them is crazy. But when you watch the game today, I mean, yeah, look at the, All time later points, goals, assist, basically every single thing that actually matters. Playoffs included, I think, in these ones.

Yeah. So there's just 200 point seasons. Four 200 point seasons. The only guy to have one is Wayne Greske. He did it four times. And this is probably very awkward for you to listen to this. Now, yeah, but take it all, wait out. It is what it is.

Sit there and take it all, brother. That's what you're doing. Okay, sorry. Go ahead. But looking at the game now, when you do watch, do you have like, yeah, I'd probably score 100 goals in the season? if I were playing right now. Is there a team or a player you would want to play with it?

Like Crosby, you mentioned, but McDavid, David, even Cellebrini, now kind of seemingly the next guy for Canada. What is your thoughts when you're watching? And what do you think? Do you think you'd have probably averaged three points a game, you know, four or five goals? I don't think like that, but I tell you what I do think like,

how good these guys are and what a pleasure it would be to play with them and against them. when I watch the game, I more look at the rules than I do the individual players. So like Mario was a big, big backer if he got rid of hooking and holding in hockey. He basically said, we got to get this out of the game and the commissioner agreed with him. We got hooking and holding out of the game. It took out the red line. I would have loved to be able to play hockey without a red line.

My goodness, how much fun that would have been. But the athletes are better today. So there's some things that I think I could benefit from. And then there's other things. Well, these guys are bigger, faster, stronger, way better than we were in the 80s and 90s. So, no, I just appreciate the game more than anything. And I love watching it.

These kids are such great athletes. But it's like that in every sport, right? Athletes are just getting better each and every year. And it doesn't matter what sport it is. It's not just the athletes. I think the sports, the strategies, the techniques. You mentioned it. The rules are changing.

Yeah. The whole sport kind of changes. You know, like we look at, I was going to say, look at Tom Brady. I'm sure he would have loved him to play in the era where you couldn't really run over the quarterback. Guys like Terry Bradshaw, Kenny Stabler, they got killed back there. But it's a different era, right? You can hit the quarterback, but there's a certain amount you can't. And I'm sure Tom would love to play in this game today if he was 22 years old.

Hold on. Speaking of getting hit and everything like that, when did, okay, were you first goon guy? Were you first goon guy in NHL or was there a goon guy before you? what does that mean? I don't know what that means. You know what that means. No, I don't. A protector? Yes.

Sorry. Sorry. I was just using strictly movie references. Okay, yeah, yeah. I figured that out halfway through the conversation. But, you know, back in those days, back in those days, every team had one or two. That was part of the deal. Like each team had their guy to protect their guy, right?

And it was just part of the game. And what was ironic about it was the real tough guys, you didn't want. worry about because they were honest they didn't want like dave samenco didn't want to hurt mario lemieux uh tim hunter and cowgrey didn't want to run over me but it was the middle guy that you worried about that thought okay i can get away with this and that's why you had the tough guys because you eliminated those guys from getting those extra shots in right yeah and so that's why every team had one or two protectors and that's how that kind of all started yeah hey capo yeah you're talking to him, but, okay, they talk to each other.

You, you do not, you do not travel up there. They are, yeah, that is a great thing. I think what they did with the game, though, after the lockout, I believe, they changed some of the rules, kind of open it up a little bit, and then obviously they went a little bit aggressive on fighting to kind of change the, I think they tried to change what the pace of the game was. But now we're at a spot. Fighting still exists, still a lot of physicality, a lot of speed.

Feels like we're at a great spot rules-wise for a sport that is on the up and to the right, I think. I think the rules are fine. It's a physical game. It's a hard-nosed game. The league and the Players Association did one great thing. They didn't eliminate fighting, okay? And people say, well, you didn't fight anyway, but, you know, we're the only sport

where you've got a lethal weapon in your hand. And it's so, but what the league did was you can't fight in youth hockey anymore. You can't fight in college hockey. You can't fight in junior hockey. So all these guys coming up now, they've never been in a fight. Oh, my God. Whereas when we're a pro. Yeah.

When we were pro hockey, all those guys grew up fighting at 15, 17, 18. So we pretty much eliminated fighting. It's not in the game as much. Periodically, it appears, but all in all, it's not in our sport anymore. Man, those young guys just happening to stroll into one of those games. Just the, oh, you don't even know about this move. Boom. Oh, that's fun.

You can't even, some of the experienced fighters in there, it's very obvious. I mean, the grab right to here for the left jab, just the economy. And then the overhand timing. And not scared to look like this either. Some people might be too much pride. Yeah, and then boom. And then, yeah. Yeah.

I was in LA, like first year, and one of my friends who didn't know much about hockey, he said, is fighting real? I said, well, if it wasn't, I'd be in more of them. You're the best. Well, you know, good luck the rest of the way through the playoffs. Thank you, guys. Thank you for all your support.

Have a great day. Are you all, man? Are you always wired headphones? No. Okay, okay, okay. I didn't know if you were always wired guy. Okay, you're the bad. Ladies and John, Wayne Gratzky.

Yeah, Wade-old. That's like a thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. People do that. Would probably be. Wired guy. What a legend.

Seriously. He's so humble. He's a goat, like an actual goat. Oh, yeah. And he's just like so damn humble. Canadians. How about him saying, yeah, that whole show, everybody drops their ego at the door. We have a good time in there.

It's like, yeah, Wayne. everybody's dropping their ego at the door because you're the greatest ever do this and if you don't have an ego you see nobody else can really be an asshole at all in this entire thing. What a legend dude. I think he could still do it if you had to. No doubt about it. I love the amount of respect

that he showed to all the young guys too, kind of passing the baton as opposed to burying the next generation. Just kind of acknowledging like, hey, these guys bigger, stronger, faster. It was crazy. Yeah, I certainly love hockey, but this is a crazy game. This is just a different sport. Basically what he was saying,

It's kind of what happens to every sport. And some of the old legends hate it. You know, some of them yell at the cloud in the front yard. He has been very different the entire time through it all. I mean, he wanted to play with Sidney Crosby when he was 14. That was a crazy little story there. That was so cool. Nick, did we know that?

Had that been the first time we had heard that story? I don't think I've remembered ever hearing. I've seen him talk about that before in other areas, but it's still just surreal to hear that a player of that magnitude sees a 14-year-old and goes, yeah, I get my gear. I need to get out there and hit the ice with that guy. Let's see if all my records. going to be okay or not. Let's find this out.

I wonder if he was on a constant search for that. Okay, let's see. Got a youth game over here? Yeah, got a real guy? Let me get on here. Bring me my gear. That's incredible. All right, let's pay it from hockey to golf. Ladies and gentlemen, something historic happened this past weekend at the PGA championship in Philadelphia, Erronomink. The course was beating everybody's ass, even though the golfers thought that they were

going to potentially bode well. It wasn't just the rough in the hits. It was the greens that were kind of dominating. Nobody could really bury a put. Par, par, par, bar, bogey would be an absolutely devastating play. A birdie would be a wet dream for these guys as they were trying to battle for a major. And as we watched Sunday kind of unfold with about a hundred different golfers being available, it was clear that one man was seemingly up to the task to battle against a course to become a major champion. And that man had two gloves on.

And that man is the first English man to win the PGA championship. in a hundred and seven years from wolverhampton england ladies and gentlemen pGA championship champion Aaron rye yeah no gloves thank you for having me guys okay so it's not just all the time i didn't know if we're getting the hands ready all the time i appreciate seeing your hands good looking hands there a lot of conversation about the gloves those hands are now obviously pGA championship champion congratulations aaron legit uh thank you very much guys Okay, so tell me about it a little bit. The course was beating everybody's ass.

It felt like that was kind of the story of us watching the PGA Championship, waking up Sunday. And now this was a little piece of information that we would learn later about you. I guess you've been in a phenomenal putter since forever. There's a Lee Westwood World Golf Putter Champion, 10 foot, 207 straight 10-foot putts or something as a child. Okay, putting is obviously the thing that everybody hopes they can do. If you make two or three 10 foot putts in a row, you are pumped about yourself.

You made 207 as a child, okay? So then on Sunday, whenever you bury that long putt and the story is like nobody can make anything, are you always confident in the putter, literally since you're a child? Did you know that it would show up for you? It was just only a matter of time, and then you bury the 68 and a half footer? Like, what was kind of your thoughts on the greens and how the course was playing throughout? Yeah, the course was really difficult. I think it played harder than everyone had expected because it wasn't long.

the greens were very sloppy but generally all back to front so not a huge amount of complexity compared to some modern courses so we definitely caught everyone by surprise at just how hard that it played with how thick the rough was conditions were really cold the first two days it was windy for most of the week and continued to get firmer over the weekend but I think it was just really testing in every aspect and regarding the putting honestly speaking I was from be a better putter as a child. Now I'm a little bit streaky sometimes I have some good weeks. Sometimes I have some very average weeks. Last week, fortunately, was a really good one. But I was probably more consistent putter back then than I am even now.

Okay, that's hilarious. So obviously golf has been a part of your life. We learned about the iron covers. I believe that you're putting over top of it and the reasoning for it and your entire story. You're 31 years old. The gloves obviously were a gateway to a lot of people saying, well this is different than what we have seen I as a punter in the NFL who every time I won on the field had to catch a ball I wore one glove like golfers usually do to help

and assist in the catch but I wanted to be able to feel the ball okay whether I was holding or I was dropping it I wanted to be able to feel it and I maybe was too much of a headcase to think that I could feel it through the gloves I guess that's the big conversation right is whether or not you get a good feel you feel as if both gloves is a better feel

how long have you been doing this and is this what I need to do to start being a better goal offer. So I started doing it probably since the age of eight or nine years old. And it was originally just to keep my hands warm in the cold winter months in the UK. And then by the time the following summer had rolled around, I went back to wearing one glove. But it just felt really strange.

And the grip in my in my other hand wasn't as good. So then I just continued with two and stuck with it ever since. But I think when I think about it as well, obviously there's more grip. wearing two gloves rather than one. The gloves are rain gloves, so they're a little bit thicker than the traditional leather gloves that most people wear in golf. But I think some of it probably shaped my swing over time. But because I have more grip on the club, there's definitely less rotation. So it feels like it's just a little more kind of stable and less handsy. I think that's the way I swing the club anyway, but I feel the gloves have definitely played a role in that.

It's not something I tried to create, but I think it's something that has just happened at a little bit over time. Interesting, because I get a little handsy out there sometimes. Oh, yeah. You know, I get a little handsy out there on that. Same thing, you know. And then I kind of duff it. So maybe if I put two gloves on,

maybe it will be a natural reaction from the nerves in my hands to my brain and to my golf swing to just go ahead and stay pure in that thing. You know, golf sales, glove sales for both hands in the golf community one up. I don't know, 45,000 percent because of you, you know that? Maybe 45,0001% with you now. Boom. Good call.

Hell yeah, lad. Hell yeah. Okay, let's talk about you still having such a full PGA tour career ahead. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Aaron, obviously winning the PGA championship is huge for that single weekend. But how big is it now for, you know, the next five years you're exempt into all majors? You're now exempt into all signature elevated events. I know before the PGA championship, you played in the Myrtle Beach event when there was an elevated event.

when there was an elevated event that same weekend. So how big is that for your career now that you get to play in all those events and majors? Yeah, it's great to be able to plan ahead. Not even so much for the next five years, but certainly for the rest of this season and going into next year. That's a position that I wasn't in going into this year.

So that's a massive thing. So yeah, it's definitely career changing in terms of just what it opens up and the opportunities used to know that. Yeah, and I think it just, it indicates you're a made man, brother. Yeah. Okay, because some people obviously in our sport are chasing a Super Bowl forever.

In your sport, it's chasing a major. Like some people will have that type of thing on their shoulders. I assume it was on yours for a while as you were trying to do it, but at a larger scale, once you become certified. These guys won a major before. Congrats on that. Hey, let's go, Aaron. That's a big deal.

That's a big deal, Aaron. Like, hey, made man. And now you're going to stay. Thank you very much. It's only, it's only, it's only, it's always, goes to what she did is your next time with your end of the fact. I understand, but you have obviously worked your ass off to get to this point to become a made man. And we just showed the video of you celebrating with your wife afterwards.

And I believe that you two are on quite a run here this season. You win to par three with her on the bag at Augusta from my understanding of the Masters. She obviously hits an absolutely pure stroke. Is she also a professional golfer, I believe? How much does that help actually? That has to help immensely that you two are. are in the same profession. Do you view it that way?

How much do you try to keep golf away from, you know, every aspect of conversation almost? We do a really good job at that. She's been around the game a very long time. But I think she has probably a more balanced perspective on life than I do. I think I'm definitely more tilted towards golf. And I think that balance that she has and consistently reminds me of helps golf not dominate our lives and it definitely doesn't dominate our conversations.

So I think she's great in bringing that balance away from the course. But naturally golf is a really big part of our lives. We're traveling nearly every week as a result of it. That she again can put that hat on extremely well when it comes to advice, when it comes to decisions. We practice a lot together back in Jacksonville, which is where we live. So there's just a really nice blend of life. golf that, yeah, that goes into our partnership.

It's, yeah, it's beautiful. I'm so lucky. Sometimes I still can't quite get my head around how lucky I am to have found a woman like it. Man, that was cute, man. Hey, that was awesome. That was awesome. Good for you guys. Actually, that is fantastic to hear.

And I would like to see either one of you try to go through a swing change, you know, And, like, they're being a fool, I assume, like, hey, you're doing a little different. Yeah, I've been trying to work on a, oh, not a bad idea. Maybe I give that a go. Hey, I just buried a 68 and a half foot butt. I think maybe we try this one out for a little bit for the good of the family. Massive respect to you guys. That's cool.

Congrats to you. I can't wait to see it continue to grow. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Aaron, I read somewhere that for celebration, I believe you kind of bawled out, if you will, a Chipotle on Sunday night. Not sure if that is true. Have you had a chance to maybe fill the want-a-maker with beer. A couple pines down at the pub. Have you been able to kind of pass that around the family

by chance and how has there been a celebration or is it just kind of, hey, Ronald, the next one? The one on the Sunday evening, there were a lot of commitments that followed after finishing on the 18th. And we had a really nice dinner actually at the golf course, which was great and a mini celebration there with some of the PGA guys, my wife, my caddy. We did make it to Chipotle on Monday on the following day, so I really enjoyed that one. But outside, there hasn't been a huge amount of celebration. We flew back to Jacksonville a couple of days ago and just kind of got into some normality, really.

My dad flew over yesterday, which is great. My sponsor as well, who's been like a second father to me, flew out yesterday. So I think we'll do something together this weekend, but we'll keep it pretty low key overall. Congrats the entire team. I don't want to, maybe your dad brought the news or not. over but Wolverhampton soccer not good right now oh boy not good right now Aaron I don't know if you follow I don't know if you have a footy team if they are your team are they your team they're not my team but I live very close to the stadium of I've kind of supported them

but they've not been my main team who's your team the same the season of that Manchester United oh that Arsenal first time in 22 years I remember this shit Oh my God. Arsenal just first time, 22 years getting the job done. Jeez, Louis. That's tough stuff. You know, Wolverhampton going down, I think Burnley.

Yeah. I think they're going done. Yeah. Football, you like American football? I haven't got into it since I've been over here. But I did promise on the Sunday evening that I'm now an Eagles fan. So I'm going to have to start following the NFL. That's an interesting.

That's an interesting bunch to go ahead and choose to ride with. I'll tell you, they will accept you in there, and that'll be a good one to kind of introduce you to football culture. I think that'll be... Okay. And they're good, too. A lot of drama, though. A lot of drama around them.

I don't know if you're ready to sign up for that, but there's going to be a lot of drama. The head coach, Paizano fellow, awesome character. I mean, just an awesome character. You're going to love it, I think, Aaron. Okay, awesome. I look forward to being part of the journey. I'm going to follow it.

Part of the journey. I can't wait to hear how you describe that journey. And also we can't wait to watch your journey through golf. You're the man. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Cheers, guys. And thank you for having me.

Next rider cup. You're sick, right? You're not doing it. Let's not. Okay. We need that. If we lose the President's Cup here, this one against the world,

and then we lose another rider cup, yeah, right. Guys need to wear two gloves. All of them. That needs to be a part of the Team USA. costume is I need two gloves on all of them. Or change your name to Aaron Ray. Come on over.

Come on over. Yeah, you live in Jacksonville. Ladies and gentlemen, that is PGA Championship, major winner. Aaron Rye. Appreciate you, Aaron. Yeah, Eric. Yeah. We tried to do that with Sydney, too.

Yeah. Messy, which I think Lou is still considered. Lou Messi is still potentially available. Joe Embed. I'm not 100% sure who he's playing for this World Cup. Gumpy, has it been decided if Lou Messy or Lionel Messi's playing in this World Cup? Leo Messi, yeah, it's his last run with Argentina.

This is it. He did change the name. So next one he's playing for US. Okay. Did you hear he change his name? What's that? Go ahead. Go ahead. Leo Messi. If you're calling him Messi on Apple TV when he's playing, it's Leo Messi, it's not Lionel. It has to be Leo Messi.

Okay, well, I didn't know that. Am I on? Yeah, it's not Apple T. That's more for Twelterman. Taylorman. Taylorman has to say Leo Messi. We like Taylor Thuelman. Oh, Lottelman. Yeah. Double T, one of the greatest New England Revolution players. He's going to be on a call, I assume, for a lot of these World Cup games. Do we know who's going to be on call? Yeah, he's involved. They got James doing some cool stuff, you know, to grow the game for sure.

If it's not Ian Dhaka, I won't be watching. Ian's in the mix. There's Flats on fog. I heard Jerry Jones is building shades and blinds to cover the sun but won't do it for football games. Yikes. I heard some of these stadiums are putting grass fields in there for soccer. I won't do their football thieves. Oh, all the grades are calling it for, oh yeah, we're a good. We're a good spot for. Now on that note, I do think the grass that they're laying would not be good for ball, and I think the sun and the thing, maybe they do try to fix that. Yeah, they should. Especially if we're going to do it for soccer.

Yeah, come on. Ian Doc is with Land and Donovan. That'll be the 8th. England's taking on Croatia in Jerry World, I believe, to kick off the entire World Cup. There will be no shadows because we need to see the ball in the pitch. That's right. How about football, Jerry? How about Landman, Jerry?

How about Pickets? We'll be back on the other side. Great hour. two waiting there. Can't wait. Hey, sports fans, the ESPN app has all of ESPN all in one place. The ESPN app is your home to thousands of live events, ESPN shows, and originals across every ESPN network and service. And now you can check if you already have ESPN Unlimited as part of your TV package

for no additional calls. Visit activate.espN.com to learn how to access your account or sign up, then start streaming in the ESPN app. It's all the BSPN all in one place. Sign up or activate now. Sports! Are the opposite to the greatest. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about him every single day

because you watch this stupid-ass show that isn't just me. It's also at the talks at table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One-Hour-the-hammer. Cowboys AP Tonis here and joining us live from an attic in Ohio. It's a man who might be able to give us a little bit more clarity on what was said yesterday in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania from Aaron Rogers. This guy was a Super Bowl champion alongside Aaron. Rogers for the Green Bay Packers, where he's also the all-time leading tackler for that storied franchise.

He'd go on to win a Ryder Cup duel in which Team USA would lose to Europe, but he is a Ryder Cup winner. And he would go on to father 100 kids. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, former president of the state of Ohio, A.J. Hawk. Yay, Hogg! Wow, man. Got me jacked up there. So many accomplishments.

Yep, what an intro. You're right. I did win my match with Rob Riggle and the Ryder Cup in our team. fell short, unfortunately, to the Europeans. Yeah, so you're a Ryder Cup winner. Yeah. You know, you're not a champion. No.

You are, which you could have been, but you are a winner. You want to know about a champion, okay? You want to know about a superstar? You want to know about one of your best friends saying something pretty big in history and the animals of football? Aaron Rodgers said, this is it. Mark Koboli asked the question, who is a Steelers' goat? Analyst for our show.

Yeah. Correspondent. That's the word. That's what he's correspondent. We know that. He is goat, though, all these things that we talk about it. He is correspondent for our show for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mark Koboli with the question. Aaron Rodgers with the massive answer.

Aaron, do you believe this could be your last year? Do you even think of that right now? Yes. As in your last year? This is it, yeah. Let's go back to the beginning. Let's run Koboli back. Let's see.

Just listen to the question and how it is asked, forcing Aaron to answer. This is good journalism. Aaron, do you believe if this could be your last year? Do you even think of that right now? Yes. As in your last year? This is it. Yeah.

Good follow of us. It's going to be your last year, huh? Koboli kind of indistant thought. Well, I can't believe he gave me an answer there. He did, though. He said this is going to be it. Now, I don't think he is expecting a celebration tour around the NFL for his final season that does take a trip to Bonjour, sava, Paris, France, which obviously Steelers fans

are not exactly thrilled about. But if this is the last year, that means he believes there's a chance to win this. damn thing. There's no other reason to do this unless he thinks they have a chance to win. Defense, great, right? We assume defense is going to be great. Could be. On the offensive side of the ball, we got a lot of playmakers. If the offensive line isn't ass and Mike McCarthy's offense does hit, Mike McCarthy wins everywhere he goes. We're watching them coach things up and you see the assistant coaches. These are all people that he's worked with in the past. It's like Mike McCarthy has a system for whatever reason it

does win games. Mike Tomlin also as well, different system than the way Mike McCarthy has done it at Green Bay. Also at Dallas. The guy was winning 12 games a year at Dallas. Now, granted Dallas had a great roster, but then they get to the playoffs, and it all shit the bet. Now, will that change with the Pittsburgh Steelers because they have a great defense? Well, Mike McCarthy's offensive systems make

them great, and Aaron Rogers, who I think is probably still feeling good throwing the ball. I don't think I saw any drop other than, like, you know, he probably can't do the same thing, but he threw a deep 60-yard ball, I think last year, 65. Oh, yeah. 69 yards, I think it was. I think it was the longest ball in the air. Yeah,

longest travel football in the year. So I guess he has found himself, who knows who he was talking with. It could have been a moon star. Could be. And they could have hit him in the eyes and he could have looked in him here and gone in a hole. Or any way he got to the answer that he got to, I think this bodes very well for how Steelers fans should view how the team is feeling about this. They are trying to run. There's a lot of experience on that team.

There's a lot of winning on that team. There's a lot of history on that team. And it feels like Aaron's signing up to go on a run. And he was there day one, a voluntary OTAs. So everything seems to be great. And the celebration, maybe the send-off year as a Pittsburgh Steeler getting seven, telling Diggs, I can already see the zipper burn, pal, from here. Yeah, it'd be so awesome.

It's very optimistic right now. All the coaches are saying right now of all the right things. You know, the people that were super bummed that they hired Mike McCarthy, everything that he's done since then, he's won over. He's won over the city already. Some moves that he's made on the offensive line already. People are very, very pumped about, bringing in everyone that they brought in during the draft everyone's pumped about.

So the optimism is very high, bringing Aaron back. Everyone knew that Aaron, as far as, you know, whether Aaron came back or not, he was the best option to win football games. Everyone was just upset that he didn't decide earlier, which, you know, very, very understandable. But as of right now, as of today, optimism is through the roof. You hear what people are calling you online. What's that? They're calling you wee-wee-wee-monsore.

And it's not O-U-I-U-I-O-U-I. It's not O-U-I-U-I-O-U-I. It was wee-wee-wee like a penis. We-wee. and Monsoor isn't even spelled right Tony Dijon Don't Photoshop anything weird

That loaf of bread either Don't want people do this I'm sure there was other options You know who started this And actually I just thought I need to block him was McQuade It was McQuade McQuade

It was the first person to bring that picture I should have known that Because it did have it involved Europe So McQuid Yeah Wait what's that lot Who said football in Europe? He is our ambassador

It feels like Of Sports for Europe. That's how we learn everything. I need to block him right now. Mo, whoa, whoa. He's getting blocked. I'll do that to McLeod. You will curse your team's season if you do that. McQuade has done

a lot of good for ball. He has. Not for me, though. He brought football to Ireland. Just kidding. He actually did chaperonis a bit in Ireland. He did. He's just taking a piss lot. Come on. Have a crack one time. Don't. See, we're a pretty international show, even though you Oh, shit. That was McQuade.

That was McQuay. Wow. That was McQuay. He did kind of introduce me to the Bray, which a kind of might start rocking. Yeah, you and John Tramolto. Me and Travolta. Yeah, I saw him. He's doing some press right now.

I did actually order one. That is exactly what Travolta looks. Put some glasses on this guy. Travolta had those little roundies on. He'll line your beard up a little more. Yeah, his beer was a little crispier, yeah. No half measures from McQuiet, though. I mean, what a beautiful, you know.

If he's going to do it, he's going to do it. Yeah, it looks like you're actually on the Shanzalee. It does. Coach Diggs is not happy seeing this. No, he's not. No son of mine. He's wearing a bargette. Huh?

front of the Eiffel Thal. And Perry. Hilarious. I don't know if you're going to be welcome back into the Bocchi League, pal. I think you need to go ahead and face your fear. Me? Definitely not one team. I've never been in it. How come we can't get in that league?

Can we compete in a super duper Italian Bocch League? You can probably get in if you want. I won't. Thank you. That's my dad's thing. I don't need to follow in his footsteps. You should think about it. Coach's footsteps are really cool.

My brother's it. My brother's in it. It's a family thing. It's a favorite. Skip the generation. Yeah, you do whatever. I got to drive to six hours every Thursday. Okay, so, AJ, what do you think, though, about Aaron saying something to think about that if the botchy's good?

That's what it takes. They got good courts over there, except for they were using that kind of shady, rocky one where we didn't like in the finals, the pepperones, I believe, we're going from over there in Penn Hills. A lot of crying from the fighting D's. Yeah, well, I don't know if that's her name anymore. Wow. Yeah, well, actually, I think it is. They said it's 2026. We're all set.

You guys aren't allowed to say it? And then I said, well, can I say it? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy. Uh-uh. Don't you be saying, aren't. How am I supposed to promote the team if I can't say the name? Don't say the name.

That's how you're promoting the team. Grazie. And we move on. But on that note, speaking of moving on, AJ, this is a big deal from Aaron. That means that's what he was trying to decide this entire time. He was trying to figure out whether or not he wanted to play. And then he was like, well, I could definitely do one more run at this thing.

Do you think that's a combo? Or do you think the convo was introduced like, hey, how about a couple years here so we can plan ahead? Maybe so it isn't just like a wasted year of development for somebody in Will Howard. or maybe in Drew Aller. Maybe it is like a two-year plan, and then we do the handoff to Drew Aller, who's potentially going to need a lot of development whenever it comes to just becoming a quarterback, even though that could happen quickly, especially with how Mike McCarthy is as a quarterback coach. So we're not saying that isn't the case.

But one more year, this is a very, this is the first time he's been this direct about it. I think he's been very kind of gray about it in the past with us, with everybody else, and everybody's kind of just assumed that that meant that he was going to be done after a year. much like whatever he said he was immunized, you know? Sure. And everybody just assumed that manned that thing. He felt like checkmate actually. And he has also won Celebrity Jeopardy.

So there is a, especially with Mina's win, Mina, way to go, Mina, by the way. Representing sports over there, Mina. Representing sports over there, Mina. Hell yeah, good win. Aaron has won before and has great stories coming out of that. That feels, like a matchup? You think? A faceoff, if you will?

Oh, you mean Celebrity, Jeopardy, contested. Tournament and champion. But that would come in retirement. Okay, that would come in retirement. So in retirement, which is allegedly after this year, that feels like a concentrated decision made by Aaron. Does it not feel like that whenever he says that? Just with how quickly he answered to Koboli as well. Feels like that was the big thinking point all off season while he was trying to decide what the hell he wanted to do, you think? Yeah, I think it's, yeah, for sure. But I would imagine they're taking everything like a one day. Oh, no. Oh, hawkill. Oh, no, what happened?

I couldn't even take a drink there for a second. It was over. Who throttle with me? Your bees? Who knows, dude? Yeah, the bees are in the wires. I didn't even think about the feral swarm of bees that could be out there on a rough shot because you didn't get them enough honey last night.

You've kind of welcomed an enemy in here. You've kind of welcomed an enemy in here. We will never know what is the bees, what is not the bees whenever it comes to connectivity because they're buzzes-z-z-z-and-round your entire damn house because they've decided that your beehive right now is the most. fruitful, the most delicious, the best looking. Those things are getting ready to leave your ass if we know anything about these bees in our short relationship. Is that not an accurate depiction of your relationship with them? It can be over at any time. As soon as you slip up,

they're leaving. And they're going to probably take down your internet while they're doing it because these things are smart. Is that not right, AJ? That's not right. But I do, I respect the fact that they will get up and leave if I'm not giving them what they need. So no question. These guys are, they're battle tests. We had like 12 hours worth of thunderstorms and everything going on, checked on this morning. They are doing well. They seem to be doing great, and I cannot wait to open that thing up five or six days and go check it out.

But as far as Aaron goes, don't you think it's a good thing as far as like, we always talk about coaches, there needs to be like a sense of urgency. Every single day, sense of urgency. I think when Aaron is there and when you know, hey, he says this is last year, you have every coach on that staff and every play on the staff thinking, like, hey, we need, this is it. We need to go all in this year because after the season, we don't really know

what any of our future holds. let's do whatever we can, why we have a guy like Aaron on the team. So I think it can only be a positive. And how about all the reports that every player on their exit meeting said they wanted Aaron back? If they were to have Aaron back with and Tomlin, without Tomlin, they would want Aaron back. That was an interesting little piece of information that Adam Schaefter shared that was certainly told to Adam Schaefter from within the building. Hey, we would like you to know that every player that we talk to that has any importance is like, yes, we think Aaron is not a part of the problem. He could definitely help us win whatever it is.

That felt like a big deal that Omar Khan was taken into account. The relationship with Mike McCarthy, obviously happening the way that it is, not only Mike McCarthy's relationship with Pittsburgh, but obviously his relationship with Aaron, Aaron understanding the offense, what Mike's looking for, what a jump start on kind of a transfer of mindset in Pittsburgh Steelers, if you're able to get the quarterback on the same exact page as the head coach. It feels like a very interesting dynamic that kind of came together with the ingredients of potential magic, or a delay and a restart, which is what Yinzers were kind of pissed off about to begin with. Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

Like that whole thing is, let's just win. Let's just try to win football games at this point. But yeah, as far as the exit meeting, someone told us that months ago. I can't remember who it was. But yeah, they were very adamant in the exit meeting. He's like, hey, we want Aaron back. He gives us the best chance to win.

All right, let's pivot away from Aaron. Congrats, Aaron. That had to be, that's the most clear I've ever seen him about his future. He's finally, like for anything. Yeah. Like, actually. A lot of people are saying. Because of the massive amount of respect he has for Koboli as well.

We know that. Duh. And the massive amount of loads. Did you see that? A lot of people said, Connor asked the same question last year and he gave the same answer. Really? A lot of people were saying that. I didn't go back to look, but.

Well, he's always alluded to things. That's what I'm saying. This is the most definitive shit we've heard from Aaron Rogers, I think. Just as somebody that got a chance to talk to him every week there for a while during seasons. Not that I do not claim. to know how Aaron feels about anything. Okay, I am just as intrigued as the rest of the world, but I am a huge fan of Aaron Rogers,

just everything, how he goes about his life, what he gets to ask go about. But I think this is the most clarity I've heard from him projecting a year from now since I've known him, like in everything. No, yeah. You know, like he was going to the rainforest for a while. Uh-huh, yes.

Then he went into a hole there for a while, okay? Then he was going to New York. then are you going to New York, then he went to New York, then he was kicked out in New York, then he goes, you know, like there's just been, it's been pretty much chaos. There's been really no, what is next, what is next. It feels like for the first time,

we got like an actual answer. He did give himself an out. He said, I'm pretty sure this is my last thing. Exactly. That's why we did a one-year deal. That's what I'm saying. He's saying, he's just go, listen, I'm immunized.

Hold the phone. What does that mean? You know, that is how, Aaron, you know, like that is literally from the beginning. And a lot of people got really mad at him for that. He would say, can we revisit the topic and have a conversation? Now, okay, that would be a very different thing. But he has always operated in his own way.

He's always done his own thing. And he's never really locked in them saying, him saying like, this is it, too, Ciboli. Okay, good luck out there, Aaron. Happy for you, dude. He also said yesterday that when Tom one stepped down, that that was a very emotional day and that he had thought that he was. was done. Big Mike. Big Mike comes in and that kind of changed some things and they were able to

have those conversations and that kind of reinvigorated. Big Mike's irresistible. True. He is undeniable. Yeah, he is. Now, him and Coach Carr, because you see what they did down LSU? Lane Giffman was like, bring back the mascot. Yes. Obviously, we got the tiger. Bring back the living, breathing, goat daggers. Bring him back in. He could do something. Yeah, defensive recruiting. Great to have you back here. Go ahead. Yeah. We love to have you around. of course, if Mike McCarthy was to offer Bill Kaur at one of these types of positions, but Yenzer, the mass climax from the volcano would just right out from the point, right where there's three, it would become a lake, it'd become a lake right here.

It would no longer be a point. Big Geyser. It would be a big lake as everything. The Cayman Science Center, sorry, I think they'd end up being a part of the explosion there. Good luck to the Steelers fans. They're on quite a ride right now. everybody loves us because the draft we broke all the records Aaron Rogers doesn't want to play for us now you gotta fucking talk to this 8 hundred dollars for a hotel room for fucking NFL

but it's been like this now we got a chance to go on a run I know not all the Inzers are excited about it and being Aaron but as soon as the season comes around they start winning some games that offense looks anywhere near what a Mike McCarthy offense looks like and a defense can play

at all in a brand new AFC North I mean the run could be sweet for them are they going to be able to beat the Indianapolis Colts with Daniel Jones we'll see we'll see with who what's that with who? Daniel Jones, he's a okay.

Okay, we'll see. Hey, do you know something? I don't know. Yeah, Achilles don't just heal overnight. Okay. Tell Jason Tatum that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, he's from the NBA world, friend of the program. One of the funniest dudes we have seen. The other night after watching Wembe go absolutely crazy

in game one of the Western Conference Finals, he got on TV immediately and said, him and his wife were talking about getting his kids to them monks. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perkins. Yay. Perk! I mean, y'all don't want to take a trip down there to go visit the monks?

They said he was dribbling four and a half hours on a seven and a half hour trail over suspension bridges, dribbling a basketball with these monks in the offseason perk. Well, I don't want to do that, but I do want to go and do the other stuff. You know what I mean? I want to get my mentality right. I want to get my mental right. You want to do a lot of the temple stuff with the motion? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When it comes to being athletic and doing the activities, I'm cool on all that, you know what I mean? But the internal side of me, I need to go get hills. Well, I think a big part of them is, like, deep in mountains up a lot of hills or stairs. You're saying, chopper to the top, I need the brain stuff, not the body stuff. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm at that point of my life. I think they'll understand that. Yeah, I agree.

I think the monks would be pretty cool with that, especially with your kids. But let's talk about Wembe and let's talk about what's going on in the West. Last night, a lot of people calling for unethical hoops happening, okay? A lot of unethical hoops people are saying. And now you add in Hartinstein kind of coming in there roughing up Wemby all night. No, not only do you got the flopping on the one side, you got the bullying on the other side. And then you talk about just an entire team that is reigning champs, back-to-back MVP, in a national narrative that is happening quickly, at least on the Internet.

assume the internet indicates a little bit about society. People hate watching this team. What are your thoughts on the Western Conference and how this Oklahoma City team goes about doing what they do? Well, I mean, they're the champs. And in order to beat the champs, you have to beat the champs, right? And so look, again, Wimby is something that we've never seen before, and he had to expect coming into that game last night

that the thunder was going to junk it up, right? he had to expect that. Again, in some areas that we do have to clean up, we talked about this, I believe, what was it about 10 days ago, about we have, we do have a flopping problem, right? In the NBA, we have that. But OKC has established themselves over the last two years as a team defensively that is going to play with a different level of physicality. And so as an official, coming into those, coming into the games, knowing that this team is going to be physical,

they're going to play with a lot of activity for us, deflections and steals. And Isaiah Hartstein was a star in this role. That was arguably, in my opinion, his best game of his postseason career. He did some stuff to the Pacers last year. That's obviously how we get introduced to him quickly over here. But do you think this came about him saying to Dags, hey, I'll do it? I'll be the one that'll go do Wemby or whatever because a lot of the ex-MBA guys were saying that

Chet needs to say, I'll take that guy. Like a lot of ex-MBA players were saying that was the case because obviously the matchup in game one was not all the time on Chet. It was a lot on Caruso was finding himself, guarding Wembe a lot. Do you think Hartnstein came out and said, I'll be the guy? I'll go in there and do it, and they thought it was a no-lose situation because if he fouls, we got Chet still? Yeah, well, if he fouls, you still got Jalen Williams coming in off the bench.

And I thought Chek, I mean, I Zelle Hardinstein came into the game with the mindset of, I got six fouls and I'm willing to use all of them. Like, we got to go out swinging. By the way, I'm to the point now where I've called out Chet plenty of times over the last, since this series started. And he don't want that smoke. He don't want this smoke. With you?

No, he don't want that smoke with Winby. Oh, yeah. He don't want that action. He don't want that action. And people's like, well, Perk, he can't just go in and just tell the coach he wants to, you know, go away from the game playing. I'm like, the hell if he can't. I play with Paul Pierce when we played LeBron James in the semifinals. And his assignment wasn't LeBron James defensively, but defensively.

But I watched Paul Pierce coming to the huddle in the four quarter and say, no, Doc, I got him. I watched Paul Pierce in the finals. The truth. Tell Doc Rivers that, hey, no, Tony Allen, you don't have them no more. I got cold. Like, that's what greats do if you really want the smoke. And at the end of the day, you live with the results. But I'm not seeing that energy from Chet Hongrid.

Okay, and if you're not going to give me that energy defensively, I believe that Jalen Williams is out. We haven't heard the reports from Sharms yet. but when you think about him hurting his hamstring again, I believe that he's going to be out. Okay, now we're looking at who's the second best player offensively for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Caruso.

Yep. Now, I will say Caruso been balling. By the way, and I'm going to get to him in a second. Chet was an all-star this year. Okay, okay. Chet has to raise his level of play offensively. Right now, he's somewhat displeasing. of what Jalen Durham was doing in the playoffs for the Detroit Pistons.

Eight, 13 points, that ain't going to cut the mustard. But now, let me say this real quick. Alice Caruso, the way that he's playing right now, he's entering the conversation of top five greatest role players to ever play the game of basketball. Wow. Real talk. All right, so have you done the other four already?

Do you have a top five? Well, I know Robert Orie. is number one. Big shot off. Robert Orr is number one. I'm going to tell you that. And you got guys like Derek Fisher, who I believe has, what,

five championships? Ray Allen? Ray Allen, not a role player, Pat. He's not a role player. With the brawny was. Yeah, he was just three points.

I mean, he was. Mono Genoblee. But Ray was the guy. But you're saying he's one of the stars. So role play, not star of team, even though have specific role. Okay, so can you describe role player to me from basketball sport?

Because I see Ray's sitting there like this and I see it falling in and I'm like that fucking that role nailed it. Like role players never have a chance to like make all-star games, right? Role players are guys that come in and that are pieces to the puzzle for

helping you win the championship. But it's like all of a sudden I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. I definitely wouldn't go that far. I would think like along the lines of for example, you would watch a guy like Derek Fisher in the regular season, and he would look like one of the worst point guards

in the league. And then all of a sudden, when the playoffs come, he would look like a top five point guard in the league. Like his points per game would go from like eight points to 16 points. And that's what I'm saying. Like, Alex Caruso is a guy that you don't hear from him in the regular season too much. Yeah, he cruised and he's still being a star, defensive stop, or a high motor guy.

And then all of a sudden, he hit this sweep. And yes, we've been seeing him average 24 points in these first two games in this Western Conference, but I always go back to last year, semifinals, game seven, against Yokic. And it wasn't Wimby, it wasn't Azeel Hardinstein. It was Alex Caruso that was Gordon Yolkich, that was forcing him to turn over the ball, that was getting defensive stops. This man, hey, look, he's one championship of what? way of cracking their top five.

Okay, so we got Robert Ory, Derek Fisher. Yep. Battye. Mike Miller. Mike Miller. Yeah, I like Mike Miller. You know what?

We might have put you darnis Haslam in there. Yes. U.D. You did. Yeah. What about Bruce Bullitt? Bill Whittington. I'm not.

Bill who? The Weddington. What are you talking about? You know Bill Wedington. Gee. Kurt Hyderick. We're not going to do. Luke Longley.

No, no. You got to have championships. Bill Weddington. We might have five of them. No, no, no, no. No, no. We might have to like this. I would put Steve Curran though.

Big baby Davis. How about Danny Green? I like that. Yeah, great one. I like that. I like that. I definitely thought of that. I definitely thought of that.

Not Bruce right there just saying, hey, Danny Green would be a winner. Also ESPN guy. Awesome. Hey, Pat. That was great. That was great right. Yeah, we're trying to hoops out here.

I like that. I like that. I like that. We're just trying to do the hoops. Okay, let's pivot to the hoops. You know, there's a lot of people you've been kind of taking shots at, okay, over this basketball playoff run. And people you've been compliment. Yeah, well, and complimenting. You know, there's been, there hasn't been a lot of conversation by your compliments.

There's certainly a lot of conversation about the things that you say negatively about somebody that potentially becomes motivation for them to show up in a massive way. You said, you were wondering if James Hardin's heart was pumping blood or cool. That's what you said. That next game, he came out. I think he had 30-some. He won crazy. He looked like James Harden.

It was an entire thing. And then there was a what-chatter-type conversation. It is very loud about James Harden, seemingly every single night that the Cleveland Cavaliers play. How do we feel about what's going to take place in game two here? A 22-point kind of collapse is obviously heartbreaking. Do we think the Cleveland has a shot? What are your thoughts about how this kind of works out? Well, for James Hart,

he's been horrible over the last three games. He was horrible in game six of last series. He was horrible in game seven of last series. And he was horrible in game one. And here we are again. Different series, same story. Game one, more turnovers than made field goals. Okay, so he's not giving you nothing offensively.

And then outside of that, Big Bridie Brunson was tearing his ass up seven of eight in the four quarter in overtime when james hardin was defending him and on top of that mike brown comes out and says it's no secret we're searching out james hardin and then kenny ackerson has the audacity and looks into the camera and tells a bold face line says oh yeah james Harton has been one of our best defenders. And I'm saying, what? Do you understand that this is a national televised game? Do you understand that we can see this with our own two eyes?

He's in Madison Square Garden on the biggest stage. And I'm going to tell you this, Kenny Ackerson really needs to be careful on how much he protects James Harton. Because at this point, he's protecting James Hardin, more so than he is actually coaching. Because you got to do what's best for the team. at this point in the postseason it's about facts

over feelings you don't have time to cater to one person you got to find ways to win games you have Dennis Trude over there who is drooling at the mouth to get some of that action at Jalen Bronson defensively who is known

as a defensive pest who is known as an instigator and not a retaliator look at this Jalen Brunson is just in his bag he knew it like oh yeah we got James Harden, let me cook. 21 times, allegedly, they ran a pick and roll to get James Harder isolated there.

And then every single time, obviously, it would go on to become one of the most historic comebacks in playoff histories, especially at Madison Square Garden as the place comes completely alive. And the coach Atkinson thing, I'm happy you brought that up, because we had some questions as well. And then we just assumed that he was gassing up

James Hardin, like he was letting him know. And then now the messaging seemingly coming out from the Cavaliers is, hey, he was three and a half good quarter. Hey, three quarters is a great about we crush him. That's what they're kind of, is he a super positive guy? Is he like, hey, this will keep James Harden engaged if I continue to publicly, like, kind of get his back because Kendrick Perkins is on air saying this guy's got Kuwait pumping through his heart and he can't do it. Do you think he's maybe going to bat for his guy? And is that how James Hardin responds best?

Like, what are your kind of thoughts of his strategy here seemingly, which it certainly is because we all saw the same thing? Or is he playing the politics game? Which one is it? What do you mean by that? Is it because they verbally agree that they're going to give James Harden the contract extension? Is it coming from the top or is it coming from Kenny Ackerson? If it's about winning basketball, then at some point, do you know how many times? By the way, Kenny Ackinson went home with a whole lot of timeouts in that game that he could have called to stop the bleeding. Kenny Ackinson also could have called the whole lot of timeouts to substitute defense for all. offense. Did Kenny Ackerson do that? Absolutely not. He continued to let the Knicks do with

the head, whatever they wanted to do, get isolation, made no type of adjustments. Donovan Mitchell, I believe shot the ball maybe twice, if I'm correct, or didn't touch, didn't take a shot after the eight minute, like eight minutes and 32 seconds left in the game. I don't believe he took a shot. He didn't take a shot. He's got a ray of ways to score too. Oh, there we go. There we go. Yeah, here it is. What is it? Miss, miss, miss. Yeah, but he didn't have the ball in his hands enough. Donovan Mitchell is still the number one option. And past it. Is he? Is he not? Well, in our eyes, is he also from the area. I mean, and now they're showing stats about Donovan Mitchell that

not good, perk. What you mean? This one, right here. I don't even want to read it because if people can hear, I don't think they should be able to hear, but if they're at an airport or a cafe, they can certainly see it. That's a terrible stat.

That is a terrible stat. Nobody wants that stat, especially in the big time games, especially a guy who is in a city, obviously that's all LeBron James, who is still playing, be able to do what he was able to do there. That is kind of the weight that Spita has

as a Cleveland Cavalier. They're talking about this first time in his career. He's gotten as far as first time of this. Boston, Indiana, heartbreak, heartbreak, Cleveland Cavaliers fans still showing up expecting greatness. Now he's hearing that that happens for game one. Oh, Jesus. You know what I didn't see from the calves during that run?

During that time they was folding like lawn chairs. I didn't see leadership. I didn't see leadership on the floor and I didn't see leadership on the sideline. Did anybody saw any type of communication? Anybody saw anybody, somebody trying to rally the troops together and having a quick meeting doing dead balls or free throws? Did we see any type of energy? We saw it from the Knicks. We saw it from Jaylen Bronson.

They go right there. We saw, look, that's what togetherness look like. That's what a true leader looked like right there. Not just going out there and busting their behinds on the floor, but look at that. Yeah, I'm pointing to my guys. I'm pointing to my guys. Coach, you don't even have to say nothing. I got this.

Now, speaking of coach saying something, seems like he's got championship pedigree as well. He was trying to get the time out, actually, at the very end. He was on top of it through and through. He's been there, done that. AJ has a question about the other side of coach. Yeah, Perk, what do you think? Coach Mike Brown, obviously, he's jumping up.

I believe he popped a calf. He's worried he might have almost torn his Achilles. Is that going to have any kind of impact here moving forward in game, too? And also, like, second. part of that. What are you supposed to do if you're the Knicks when you have that, or you're that far behind I'm sorry, I'm talking about playing with a lead.

I just got, I got all kind of discombobulated. In real time, on your perk. What just happened? I may just had a stroke. I was going to jump back. You won't know why? I'm so pissed off about this Hartnstein situation going back to the other game. Are you able to send in, I don't want to ask that question about Mike Brown.

Are you able to send in clips? You know, in the NFL perk, you can say you lose a game, say a game happens, head coach sends in clips to the referees, to the league, saying, hey, watch this, we feel like you missed this. Can Mitch send these clips in, a partner's time grabbing Wemby's arm and doing all this?

And do you think the officiating changes? I like what we're at, AJ. I like that. And I'm pretty sure that the Spurs, being the first class organization that they are, being one of the best organizations in sports, that they already, those clips were sent in right after the game, to be honest, which

if not doing the game, those clips will be sent in. And guess what? Izel Hardenstein, sorry to tell you, brother, but you're not going to be able to get away with that in game three. Yeah, you think there's going to be an adjustment done? You think there's going to be an adjustment? I wouldn't say an adjustment,

but, I mean, listen, they're going to, the officials are going to come into the game, and they're going to watch that matchup. They're going to keep a close eye on that matchup. They're going to allow them to be physical, but I guarantee you they're going to set the tone early if any of this happens throughout the course of the game. I mean, at the start of the game. The officiating is always a combo with Oklahoma City. Is that always how it's going to be

with the top teams? Is that always going to be the case? I will say this. Now, Isaiah Hartstein, you have to be prepared because you are now the villain. Going into San Antonio, you need to be prepared to get booed. But I'm not mad at him. Look, I was a guy that actually did this. You know how much film they probably, you know how many people snitched on me? Throughout the course of my, throughout the course of my NBA career. I mean, I played that way.

Seriously. I mean, you got to junk the game up, but he won't be able to get away with that game. I love that we got Wemby battling through. We're watching him like battle through things in real time. Like, all right, now you got a goon on you, strictly just out here. One thing, though, don't you think one thing is being physical, pushing around, not let them get towards a hoop, but hook in the arm and, like, almost dislocate the elbow. That's what I feel like, I can't believe that was it called more. Yeah, well, there's, go ahead.

Perk. Yeah, but, but, AJ, you know, like, when you're a big man, I look at it, like, offensive linemen and defensive linemen. Like, you go, you're in the trenches. Like, let's not act like in the NFL, it's not some things that go on when you're in the trenches. Let's not act like when the running back gets tackled. and it's a pile of guys. It's not some stuff that's going on in that power. You know what I'm saying?

You're in the trenches? Well, I think, though, the fact that he's so thin. Okay, so we've seen really tall thin guys before, and I don't think there's ever been as much banging aloud because they're like shooters, right? So they kind of get treated differently. He gets treated like a big, big man down there with the refs and how he bangs down there.

I don't think that is just natural for us as if you were to see because of how thin he is. But it's like old school basketball whenever he's down there. Obviously last night, certainly. But the amount of contact, I mean, that's why his arms all kind of scarred up. That's why he elbowed that guy in the thing because he gets hit a lot. And usually very thin basketball players, just from my perspective, are shooters. So any contact at all is normally a call.

It feels like he very rarely is getting any, and there's a lot of contact happening in basketball, feels like. But that's why he went down there with the monks. To be prepared for stuff like this. He's 7-5. This is just the start. or what's about to happen to Wemby and going forward. Guys have no choice but to try to junk up the game.

Guys they have no choice but to try to get inside his head and play with a different level of physicality. But the Spurs, I guarantee you, they sent the film in, going into game three, the officials will keep a close eye out on that situation. You're not going to doubt that any brothers with the call. No, you will know. Okay, we all know.

Do we know who's reffing tonight? Do we have the crew name for this evening? That matters, right? How they all call the game differently, or they all try to call it similarly? What is the ref? No, I think when you have guys like Tony Brothers and Scott Foster, as a player, you just know, is zero tolerance.

When I say zero tolerance, it's like, you know, you can't approach them. They're going to take control. You got to stay in the moment. There's no complaining. Like, it's one of them moments, right? When you have a veteran. crew is zero tolerance.

Like, in these moments, though, you want a veteran crew because you want a crew that has experience that's not going to overreact, you know, to the fair base, the loud environment, right, that's going to stay in the moment. And also, then, it's not star-strung, right? You want those guys who are going to call the same calls on the superstars that they would do on role players. I think Wembe's people are saying, let's do a little bit more of that.

Let's do a little bit more of the proper calls. obviously Oklahoma City wins the free throw battle last night. A lot of people saying it's because of flopping. Wemby almost got in foul trouble. Had to review two of them early against him. Clean block on check. Just putting a roof on them, basically. Just did one of these on that.

And then obviously the other play gets clear there. Special time for basketball, it feels like. And are we at the end of an era? So many different thoughts about what's happening with Braun James. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Perk. It's kind of circulating that LeBron could, if he were to leave L.A.,

take a vetman or some sort of $15 million one-year deal, two-year deal, and, you know, go somewhere else. And a lot of people have kind of thought, hey, LeBron, if he does leave, could go to a Cleveland, kind of go back home, help them get over the hump. What do you think about LeBron? I know that you feel pretty bullish about him possibly joining the Clippers. So maybe we see him over there, or do you think he's just going to end up going back to Lakers? I actually think Braun

if it's, look, if it's Bronn last year, I would love to see Braun in New York in the Knicks uniform. If it's his last year, can you imagine the money that's going to be made? Can you

imagine how much money the NBA is going to make? Even if he goes to the Knicks on a vet minimum, you know how much money he's going to make outside of basketball? Like, that would be so legendary. But again, we don't know what's next for Brunt. I would love to see him really go back home where it all started it, right?

Again, me and LeBron, we go back like four flats on the Cadillac. We go all the way back to middle school days when we were going at it, when he was playing for the Ohio shooting stars, and I was playing for the Houston hoops, right? To us teaming up and playing for the Oakland soldiers together. you know, in AAU basketball to us playing the McDonald's All-American game in Cleveland, him winning MVP, the dunk contest. So again, I just would like for him to go back where it all started.

I think it would be a perfect ending. And on top of it, he would actually have a chance to go out to actually have a legit shot at winning the NBA championship on his way out. I don't think LeBron James retire after next year, to be honest. I think he got two or three more years left in the tank. Okay, so two or three more years, it would be nice to see him play in a place where, you know, he's already donned the jersey.

Your cell for the New York Knicks sounds like that's your dream location. But then you also said, no, no, no, no. You also said, I would like it to be Cleveland. You kind of were saying New York would be sick. Did you think about him in Madison Square Garden, Jalen Brunson? They got the entire team. Obviously, his relationship with a lot of big time figures in New York is gigantic. Him playing for the Knicks, huge for the history of the game.

and also playing for the Lakers. He would be everywhere. Him and Ben Stiller. I mean, we're talking old school Sprite commercials with LeBron coming all the way back, being directed by Ben Still. Action Bronson's obviously putting out an entire new album and movie about it.

You had a lot of thoughts about that. Then you were like, but if you really want to know where I think it is, Cleveland would be nice. I appreciate what you did there. I appreciate what you did there. I had an AJ moment. Ah, you're the best.

Burke, you want to pick tonight's game or no? I got the Knicks. Okay. I got the Knicks. You ask me if I trust what I saw a hardening. How? By how much? By 10.

What about the hockey? Yeah, what about hockey game? Yeah. Big one. Canadians canes tonight. In Carolina, obviously, the Keynes. What's the series? This is his first game.

Carolina Hurricanes have not lost in the playoffs yet. The Canadians just got out of the valiant. a seven game series with the Buffalo Sabres. This is the first game? Go ahead. When was the seven, when did the seven game series in? Three days ago. I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with the Canadians. Wow.

I like that, Perk. Okay, Perth. They're saying Carolina's got a tough barn, but waiting until you, have you watched any of these games at all, Perk? You want me to be honest with you? Yes. Pat, I hadn't had a chance, man. Yeah.

I've been working, listen, I've been flying. I've been working so much. Devon. I got to get naps in before I watch the whole entire game. You know what I mean? I got to make sure I do my homework, but I'm trying to expand a little bit more. Okay.

Outside my comfort zone. Hey, the Canadians would be a good team for you just to pick up. Wait until you see their fan base. Their fan base is absurd. You know what's crazy? I never been to a hockey game. Oh, what? This is them, dude.

This is them. You need to see this. So this is in Montreal. Okay. So the way that Wayne Gretzky, who was on the show earlier, who's the greatest hockey player of all time from Canada, he talks about the Montreal Canadians basically being viewed as like the Yankees in Canada.

Oh! This is an away game. This is just a watch-along happening in their arena, the Bell Center or whatever up there. They are a starving, very, very good franchise and fan base. If you were to pick that, this would be a good time to pick them up as your team, Perk. This would be a good time and watch their games.

It's going to be electric. Well, let me go here and jump on the bandwagon. Let me go ahead. I'm going to go ahead and do that. Get to a game. Canadians to the top, baby. Hey, do the hockey, Perk. You're the best, ladies of gentlemen,

Kendrick Perk. Yeah, Perk. Okay, I'm excited for him to happen upon Canadians highlight. There they go. I can't wait. My boy. AJ, you all right, man.

We're proud of you. I'm doing great. I just, I couldn't. The Hardenstein situation, I had to get to it. So you were just brewing over there that entire time? I mean, I just, I just thought like maybe, I thought Mitch should have worked the refs a little bit more. I feel like the second

half, maybe you start calling a few times. Yeah, it is. He wasn't happy at all. You know, Tony Brothers, you don't want to hear it. Yeah, he, no nonsense, obviously, in that whole thing. A couple new stories that we have to hit before we jump into hockey with legendary

Montreal Canadian. Jerry Jones on the international wear and tear. He says, it's less than a night out. So these kids don't even really drink anymore, so they don't even know what it's like. Me and the boys, we used to two kegger next day.

Yeah, right. We're hung over for 17 hours. Maybe we, you know, hop right back on the wagon. Maybe we do a little hair of the dog, the next boy. Maybe we have some magic beers to get back into it. But the wear and tear of aviation in 2026, come on absolutely nothing to a bottle of whiskey in 1985 so i don't even want to hear it so he's done with it i think jerry obviously big international proponent obviously because that is how the big business is

AJ have you changed your thoughts on these international games because i'm going to let you know i'm in on them let's take let's send more over there come on man welcome i'm fine with it my favorite is the last part of that where jury says stop stop don't act like they'd be back in home resting in bed resting up like it's he's got a point there. He really does. I mean, I understand that part of it. But whether you agree or not, it's happening, and it's only going to expand overseas. There's going to be a Super Bowl someday that's not played in America, I would imagine. So whether you like it or not, we've got to figure it out. I think a lot of us would be more okay with a Super Bowl being played overseas than like Steelers

Ravens or Packers Bears. Can you imagine the Super Bowl being on it like 9 a.m. though, on Sunday? Like, that pissed me off. Big time. That's what it would be. Big time. No. No, they would make them do it late. Just like Australia. The guys are playing at 1 a.m. Just like they did with the UFC when they were doing it out there. I guess there are some time constraints, but obviously other sports have figured it out. The international

growth is only going to be expedited through the Olympics with flag football. There's more states getting legalized and more flag football getting approved. I believe it's going to become a college sport, which means obviously, I don't know how they're going to afford it. Okay? Because this is an Olympic sport, technically.

Flag football would be an Olympic sport. Obviously, it is football, which is good for everything, so hopefully it'll get marketed well, but it is an Olympic sport. A lot of Olympic sports at a lot of places are kind of getting the squeeze right now. So I'll be eager to see how flag football kind of fits into an NCAA into a college university's budget, especially as we're in this new NIO world. But if this becomes a viable option for both men and women for college, and this becomes a whole other avenue of entertainment for flag football,

the international growth is only going to grow from all this, because it's a lot easier to play flag football than is play tackle football. So I think you need to get ready to go watch Steelers, take on the Ravens, right over there and maybe Belizeek, Tundigs. I think that's around the corner, basically, what they said yesterday. I'm cool with sending all the flag games international.

I think that's a good idea. Like what you just did there. Like what the Fanatics Super Flagfest was? Yeah. And in college, those sports may make money because it's football and people would actually maybe go watch them. Got to build good proper stadiums. They can't be having them in the six.

65,000, 70,000. No, you got to play them in the soccer stadium or whatever. You said flags tough to watch, really? It's like pickleball? Pickleball tough to watch. Yeah, I wouldn't watch it. Yeah. I mean, obviously, it's a different, it's not the same sport as that we're normally watching football.

But, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's tough to watch for me. The Penn House to Outhouse move that they do is cool to watch. It is. Yeah, the elevator. But I just think the way the game is, it's a little bit too free-flow. It feels like watching kind of lacrosse that's kind of taking place out there. It is football, but is it football.

there's different rules. It feels like it's lived too. There's always music playing. If you look like, whatever you think you play. Yeah, so it's kind of hard to, you know, like feel like it is a big time.

But I do think the sport of football will reign supreme and entertainment value whenever it comes to that. So I hope that it continues to grow. Okay, speaking of growing hockey, obviously, huge night tonight. He's the Eastern Conference.

Tips are, puck drops. And we saw that big perk is obviously riding with the Canadians. He's not the only one. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who's a 13-year NHL vet and has been on television, basically for the last

three weeks every single day telling people how great hockey is. He's also up in Montreal seemingly having one. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Subbaugh. Yay! P.K. How you doing PK? How are you doing Pek? Do you see Big Perk?

Did you see Big Perk just signed up to be a Canadian's fan? I think it's a good time to do that. I did. I just actually saw Big Perk the other day when I went over to do Get Up and I mean, he's so much bigger in person. My goodness, he's a big man.

But we'll take Perk. I can't believe he's never been to a hockey game, though. You got to take him. We've got to change that. We've got to change that. I would definitely love to see him watch a little bit more hockey. His perspective is always intriguing and interesting, and he's a fun guy. So we'll definitely love to have him on the hockey side.

Can't wait to get Perk into the sport. This series is a good time to get involved because obviously both environments are going to be outrageous. You were early on in the, hey, boys, the home ice, good for the show. It doesn't really matter on the ice. For the hurricanes it has, though. They've kind of just been dominating at home, and all Jackie Hughes came out and said Carolina tough. E.J., you know, Big Hornel. He said this morning that it feels like you're on a down escalator trying to walk up whenever you try to battle against the caniacs down there.

That's how good their barn is. Montreal obviously very used to that with how loud their place is. What do you expect from this game? And how do you think this thing kind of gets started for this whole Eastern Conference finals? Well, I expect Montreal to come out playing a connected game. They know they're going to have to be the faster team in this series just because Carolina has been faster than everybody all year long. I mean, on their forecheck, their forecheck is not something that you really want to play with.

So for all the word coming out of Montreal is we've got to play our game. We're skilled, you know, quick, fast team and it's a float. team. Well, we got to see that because at different times, even through the first and the second round, they did not look that skill. They did not look that explosive. They looked like they were sort of a fish out of water on their heels. I don't

think they can afford to do that to a Carolina team that is so used to rolling four lines and rolling on teams. I think Montreal does have to find their game in this series, and I think it starts tonight. Okay, I'm excited to see Montreal do that. We will never get a non-biased take from this man.

We are excited to watch the Caniacs kind. This guy was shirtless up there with them. That's all. Yeah, he was up there in the middle of Montreal. He was speaking French with me. Okay, do you know French? A petit per. A petit per in French.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're talking to me? No. No. You're talking to me?

You're just called me beautiful, I think, right? Is that what you just said? I was talking to somebody. I, you know. Thank you. Somebody. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Cool, yeah. Some bell out there, or mademoiselle certainly heard that thing loud and clear. You're the best, you're the absolute best, P.K.

Okay, let's move to the West, shall we? There's Tone Diggs with a question for you. Yeah, PK, obviously, VGK gets a huge win last night. Mitch Marner with an absolutely insane assist. He is on fire. How is Toronto handling this? Great question. Thank you.

For people that don't know, Toronto basically blamed Marner for all their playoff drought or inefficiencies. And then he comes over and is just on fire with the Knights. So how do you think Mitch feels and how does Toronto feel? Well, I'm glad you asked me the question because I was going to bring it up anyway. I want all the smoke from everybody from Toronto because I said it and I'm going to say it again. He's an all-world talent. And, you know, I think that at some point it's going to pass because it has to pass.

the Toronto Maple Leaf had to change up that culture of that team and maybe Mitch wasn't the right player. I certainly didn't think he was the guy they should be getting rid of. But I'm going to tell you something, when you take that type of talent and you mix it with championship pedigree in Vegas and then add a championship pedigree coach in John Tortorella, like this is what you get, right? And he's absolutely filthy. He's disgusting. The plays that he makes, I know that these ones are ending up in the back of the, the net. But guys, he's making a ton

of these plays every shift. And if you know the game, you're going to notice these things. And I certainly have been noticing them. I noticed them before he was playing in the National Hockey League. I noticed them when he was doing him against me. And I'm definitely seeing it now watching, look at this. Like, my

goodness, what is that? Filthy. How did he see him there? Yeah, you know what they say? Real recognized, real. And you and Marner are not strangers at all. If you know ball, you kind of know Puck, you kind of know that every shift he's doing these types of things. It's silky. It's not just the ones with apples and goals attached to him.

It's every time he's on the ice, he's making the right decision. Is that what you're saying, P.K., about Mitch Marner? Was he doing this in Toronto, or is he significantly better now? Well, you know, ask Austin Matthews because, you know, no one benefited more from playing with Mitch Marner than Austin Mathis. It's not that he's not a 70-goal score without it. He may not be, though. If you don't have Mitch Marner, you need to have someone like him when you're a goal. goal score and Austin Matthews knows how valuable he is as a player and it's not because of his size

it's how he sees the ice it's hockey IQ it's on the level with guys like McDavid Crosby McKinnon this is one of the smartest players in the league uh if not the smartest offensively because of his size is facing understanding how to get in between defenses look at this understanding how to use bodies and screens and throw goaltenders up he's acceptable He's a small dog playing a big dog's game. E.J. said that these guys now, they're such talented skaters, it doesn't really matter to the size because their shoulders, their stick, and their hips are all telling a different story as they're skating so they can create space by making you go a different direction.

It's like he said, I think he said they're doing the mock arena across the entire thing. You don't know what to read. So even though they're undersized, it's hard to know where the hell they're going, I guess. And that's crazy to think about the minor details of that all and what you have to do. Saw it with Quinn Hughes as well. It feels like if you're an incredible skater, all of a sudden you can play anywhere out there and kind of avoid the big hits. Great, great point.

Your edges and the use of your edges. You got your inside and your outside edge. Quinn Hughes, Mitch Marner, Honor McDavid, Ayl McCar, Nathan McKinnon are exceptional from going from their inside to outside edges no matter what they're doing, whether they're skating straight,

they got to stop and start, whether they're turning, whether they're pivoting to backwards, nobody in the league. Sidney Crosby, add him to that list, right? All of those guys are exceptional at controlling their edges.

Mitch might be one of the best at it because he can literally go heel to heel and go in a straight line. So think about that. If you can go down the ice, heel to heel with your skate. Okay, so essentially, these are the heels.

Okay. If you're going, wait, let me angle it. So heel to heel like this. you got to have loose hips in order to do that. Mitch Martin has got some special hips. You'll see him when his hips, he goes heel to heel skate and he opens up.

It allows him to go in a straight line while still seeing the whole ice in front of him. So it's pretty special to be able to do that. Yeah, it's kind of how talk runs. Yeah. Obviously, it's two different outcomes if I had to, if I had to say. That's P. K. Saban and A.J. Hawk, the boys are all here. Evan Fox just want to dump his pants.

We'll continue on digital sports. takes it from here. We'll see tomorrow. Goodbye. Okay, so we're still live, P.K., as you know. Evan Fox, with about 45 seconds left in that first hour, about 156, 15 or something, drops into my ear. I'm about shit my pants. Zito's sitting in. Zito, way to jump in there. A lot of action quick, Zee. A lot of action quick there towards the end.

And we were pulling for Foxy and the toilet. Yeah. And the toilet, obviously. So there was a lot of chaos over here, PKK, as you were talking about, heel to heel there as it was taking place. Foxy might right now be healed. He did apologize right before the show when he was walking into the back room. He heated up

his food and then walked to the back room and said sorry, boys. I think it was some stinky stinky food. I don't think it's that right. We're on the street. Extra stinky food. I'll tell you what, we got the office issues. Somebody goes to the microwave, cooks up salmon. Just ruins the whole place.

Onions. Thanks for doing it. Thank you. There's been things that have been banned from our office a couple different times. as their situations. I'd say fish should be banned. Fish in the microwave should probably be banned. Well, it depends. Well, I eat salmon all the time.

I eat every single game at ESP. I eat it all the time. I warm it up in the microwave. Oh, my God. What do you do? Do you blow it on people, too? To go, take a...

So I'm the stinky guy now. So I'm probably known as the stinky guy is what you're saying on ESPN campus. What I'm saying is, I think they love you because your energy and everything that you do. But every time you do that, they go, this guy, again, with the fucking fish. Jeez, Louise.

We all have to kind of, we all, now we're all eating fish. Oh, P.U. Sub-Bah. But also, yes, yeah, that is, that is what they're saying. P.U. Suban. Unbelievable. But it's a big campus there. That's a big campus. So I assume it is.

So a lot of people know. No. Word spreads fast. I cook it, hold on. I cook it the same day. So it's not in the microwave that long. Like, if you're heating something about five minutes and you're really, like, come on. It's a 45 second to a minute heat.

You're getting a quick blast of fish You're not getting the hole What do you think? You think somebody's slow roasting salmon in our office? They're doing a minute and a half, two a minute. I think every office has got about a minute and a half, two minute reheat of fish if that is taking place.

And yes, everybody knows that you're doing it. Everybody's so happy, you're so healthy, and you get your fish oils. We're all so happy for you. We got a guy here who's coming off a fractured ankle. Yeah. And he's going to be trying to get back into, you know. Yeah, he's staring down another one

because he's terrible. on it early. Yeah, well, he's pretty comfortable right now. His hips are certainly going to be fucked, but he had crutches and he was carrying them. I didn't know that was how those go. And then his boot, he had just been walking with it naturally, but he's going to be doing a lot of the salmon and the protein shit.

Yeah, yep, have to. And we're going to be a part of his time. Pedaling. Got to do the peddling thing, too. You know, that pedal machine that you got to do when your ankle's banged up? No, what? Just sitting down? Yeah, so in hockey, like, I don't know if you guys have ever seen it,

but there's this, I don't know the name of the machine, but if you ever injured like your leg or your ankle and you couldn't skate, for instance, you'd get on this pedal machine. You'd just peddle with your hands. You'd be sitting there and that's how you would get your cardio in. Yeah.

Cardio sucks so bad. I need to do that right now because my knees. AJ, this might be what? Because AJ does this one, right? Don't you do the Versa Max? Versa. Yeah, Versa climber. O'le.

O'le. O'le. O'le. O'le. AJ. BK. I like that you didn't want to say your name first, but you kind of did. No.

You kind of did. I did, but. You went with AJ instead. That was nice of you. Okay, let's pick the game the night, please, sir. Pick the game this evening. Do you think the Keynes come out of this long, long break after sweeping the first two series Rusty,

or do you think they are a buzzsaw at home as Montreal might be a little bit tired after a tough seven-game grueling battle with Buffalo? No, I think Montreal wins this game one. I do think Montreal wins game one, and I think that they win this game. I'm going to go four two. Whoa. Okay, we're doing exact scores.

I like that. Let's go to hoops. You're obviously in the building in Madison Square Garden, watching an epic comeback. I assume you're going to be biased towards the Knicks as well, so you can still do all the cool things that you get to do in New York. Is that how we're viewing game two this evening? Well, you know, I, listen,

I've gotten some heat before going to MSG. So sometimes I do go in there and I get a little bit of heat with what I do say. So I still got to call it down the fairway, Pat. You know that. But I am and have become a Knicks fan. I am a Knicks fan. I have to say that it's one of the hard, it's hard work that I admire about the Knicks team. They leave it all on the court.

So it's worth my time to go and watch them at the garden. That's why I always show up. But now they got some star talent in Brunson and Towns. But Brunson, my, like, my God, I have to go back tonight. I have to go back and watch it with a chance to be a witness again of watching this guy take over a game and embarrass a team in the playoffs. It was so special to watch that performance. It really was.

He never misses. That's where I learned whenever he was playing against a page. The braids are going. Pat, the braids are going, and he's got this going to. He gets a little bit of this going to. But it's how he gets in between the defenses, whether it's the tear drop, whether he pulls up his mid-range game, he'll shoot the three, he doesn't care, he'll cross you over,

and then he'll penetrate, he'll dish. Like, he beats you so many different ways. So when I get asked the question of how do you rebound after blowing 22 points with seven minutes left to go in a game, and I'm saying, well, well, first you've got to figure out how to put this guy on a leash. Like, this is a dog. This guy's eating you alive,

and you guys are talking about, like, how you bounce back. Well, you guys got to figure out how to stop. hip. Yeah. And that's where the focus should have been because, my goodness, he was special down the stretch for sure. Yeah, he's been like this, too. He is very worthy of a title, I would say.

Yes, big kind. He is very worthy of a title. And the way he operates being one of the faces of New York would become king of New York if he won for the Knicks, obviously. But the way he handles that type of pressure, spectacular. I mean. Yeah, he does. And I want to, there's one other guy I want to talk about because I was super,

impressed was Mikhail Bridges, just his defensive, just how he stepped up in the game, when guys got in a foul trouble. No, I'm being honest, he was a dog on defense. I loved just how he competed on Hardin. He stepped up in those big moments. I could see that the team was rallying around it as well, which is pretty awesome to see. So I've got to give him some love for sure. Basketball pundit, NHL analyst.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's Peké Subin. Yeah, Peket. Hey. Are you on TV tonight? Are you on TV tonight? No, no, no TV tonight. I'll be at the next game, and I'm going to have the Havs game on my phone,

so I'll be tuning in back and forth. I'm going to be watching it tonight. That's what I'll be doing. Do we get a full workout in and soak in and everything today, or no? I did. I did legs today, really kicked my butt today. I did, I had broad jumps. Yeah, I did the hack squat, leg extensions today,

so really got into the glutes. ham he's fat. Yeah, I need to keep those for stability. Yep. Yeah, big, big cans. Your massage? Your massage coming up now or what? Yeah, when's the massage? I got the Epsom salt bath next because I, because I walk back from the gym in the rain today. So I got to, I'm going to get in the Epson salt bath, just really chill things out. And then, yeah, see where the day takes me from there. Dinner at a million. Yeah, maybe stop by Emilio's. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's standard.

Yeah, 100%. Wow. What an honor is for you to be able to say that. Just be able to be to stop by, get some of the deal parmesan? That's awesome. Why not? It's the best place. It's the best vibe, best place. I have to stop by and show love every day.

Shout to Moria. This kid was dressed well. Yeah. He was unbelievable. Service was perfect. You like someone? That's Mario. Yeah.

Yeah. He was hair. Shout out to Junior. Shout out to the whole crew, Anthony. Carmine. Everybody. Don't see. Yeah.

Yeah. We're going to say, good aty to them for sure. Good odds to them. All right. You're the man. Good luck out there. P.

P.U. Saban. Yeah, P. P.U. You. Of course he's fucking salmon. Is he bringing his own salmon to the ESPN?

He said he was. Probably a backpack. Yeah. He probably has a super cool bag. Still on the fishing line. Some fat, yeah. Yeah, he gets it out of the Hudson. It has the paper wrapping around.

Uh-huh. Yeah, he just caught it maybe on the way in. He was walking and somebody throws it. He catches it. puts it in some fucking absurd bag with the head and the tail sticking out of the news side. Yep, big go. He's fucking listening. He's fucking

he's fucking lost it there. He's fucking skills in front of Levy. You guys are killing me, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, P-U. Moose starts the fire. Yeah, Moose Bessierce. Moose has a flint. He starts the fire right underneath the table.

Steve Levy, somebody in there says, fish again, huh? You know, I got to do it. That's definitely leaves. Yeah, certainly. All right. Speaking of, Steve Levy, sent a text either while we were talking to Wayno or after we were talking to Wino and he said best, uh, Waino stat is if you eliminated all of his goals, he would

still have the most points in the history or something like that. It's like Wayne was the guy. He was on, Wayne Gretzky, huh? This guy. Wayne Gretzky. This guy's good at all right. Hey, guys, when when people try to talk about McDavid and like, like talk about him being better, like no one's ever going to be better than Gretzky. Like I, like, I, like, Like the conversation, there's certain conversations that we shouldn't have to have. Like, you know, like the Jordan conversation, the Gretzky conversation, like we should kind of be putting those to bed. Like, no one's ever going to be better than Wayne Gretzky. It's just not going to happen.

Like, and records are meant to be broken. The game changes, rules change. We get all that. That's going to change. But Wayne Gretzky, the great one, like, come on, man. What are we talking about? I don't even have to go on about this. It just put that to bed.

It's Wayne. And then there's everybody else after that somewhere. Yeah. You know? La McNay, Camryo, Lemieux. And then Sidney Crosby, obviously, in there. Ovi has certainly scored his way into the conversation. I mean, there's some original six teams.

Bobby Orr. Yeah, we'd love to get there. Madano, Basel McCray. Wayne was 1.92 points per game. And then Mario 1.88, and those are the two. That's it. And Mario Leveu for sure. Yeah, 100%.

But Wayne's like, come on. Yeah, no, I actually told Wayne that. that today during the conversation with him that because I'm from Pittsburgh, I used to say Marilyn Mews the goat, thank you so much. And just literally tell everybody, shut the fuck up. That's literally what I would do just as an ignorant fan of the Pittsburgh Penguins. And then Sidney Crosby comes along, guess what I got again? Hey, we got the fucking greatest player of all time. You shut, shut the fuck up. And then somebody forced me to look at Wayne Gretzky's stats. And it really changed everything. Oh shit. I've been pretty

disrespectful. I'm going to Wayne Gretzky. It feels like I need to stop doing that. immediately. Hockey's a great sport. We appreciate the hell out of you, P.K. Keep cooking those fish, dog. Ladies of gentlemen, P.K. Saban. Yeah, P.K. Hey. Maybe even a couple. I think he had the salmon from the lunchroom one day at ESPN. He said it was trash. I can't do this. I bring it my own.

I wonder if they even offer it because they know that everybody in the building and campus is going to have to smell it. Great cafeteria. I was going to say they got really nice stuff over there. Greg had great food. I do believe that. I do believe that. at everything that I've ever had there, like, top of the line. Delicious. Chefs and food and everything like that. There's been a lot of variety of shit.

You can get, like, sub, obviously, pizza, nachos, omelets, eggs, healthy. I think you probably... I would imagine you can get salmon. Yeah. It's really high-end shit. Very much like the L.A. Chargers, little food eatery cafeteria place I have. Very, very nice.

Here is a shot of the place. You can get sushi there. This is from the draft. No, I'm sorry, schedule release primetime with the NFL live folks. Dan Rolovsky Hawkins, I believe Miss Laura Rutledge guided the tour through this entire thing. You really get a chance to see the entire place. You know, ESPN is gigantic. This episode is brought to you by Nespresso.

Hear that? That's your next obsession. Every coffee, a new world. Every sip, a new taste. This is the new Nespresso. One touch, endless possibility. iceed, flavored, long, short, because some days call for that espresso kick, and sometimes a smooth, silky latte just wins. It's exceptional but effortless, like actually effortless. Simply press, brew, and explore.

Nispresso, what else? Keep exploring at nespresso.com. They just won an award, you know, ESPN. Congratulations, ESPN from the Sports Business Journal, best in class. Wow. For the deal with that level network. Best in class. Mm-hmm.

Yep. That's a big deal. Yeah. Best is sports media. Which means best in class. Which means... Who else is in the class? There's other sports.

Everybody's doing sports media now. Frikin everyone. CBS, NBC. Amazon. Apple. You name it. YouTube. HBO.

So fucking Turner. Nickelodeon. The other one is. Whatever the... There's some... What's the one they're doing? The Twitch... The...

Nesson. Kick. The fight... Kick. There's a lot of... Oh, rumble. Rumble. Slatly.

There it is. There's a lot of things doing sports. Wake up! Welcome to the world, AJ. What's wrong with your brain? Just asking questions. Just asking questions. Yeah, B's on the brain.

Don't call him a B brain. Is that what happened in the middle of that question? You were just like, you know what? I just saw the Queensland's. And then he had to go back. Whem B was pissed off because Wem B obviously has B at the end of that. So now you are... he's actually naming his hive potentially the whembeehive

so now he's kind of feeling a little bit of an extra closeness to Wembe so even though we were 15 minutes past that situation he still had to Wembeehive on the brain after starting the other one and I'm happy you got to that I'm happy you got that because that's what you wanted to know yeah I couldn't I could not just continue I had to stop pause for 12 to 15 seconds forget it and then come right back to it I thought you did great honestly landing the plane we've all been there

brother don't you worry about that but the B have shit is crazy that you're actually doing this. Love it. I would like to actually know that. It is crazy. I've not broken any more NHL news since that first time I did the news thing. And I guess people say I didn't break it. I was actually pretty late today. But I am potentially excited about some news that

Shepter just broke. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, NFLPA has reached an agreement today with Joms to become the exclusive peanut butter and jelly sandwich of the players. What? J.J. Watt and Caleb Williams are part of Joms' ownership group and the

player-led partnership will make the P.B.N.J.'s available league-wide this season. That's a big deal because we obviously have heard the stats. 80,000 uncrustable peanut butter and jellies. Okay, throughout the NFL season is what was actually reported and projected. At least. Joms, which I do believe, we have experienced the Joms experience here at the office. So good.

So good. Bigger, more, I think there's more protein in these things. I think they have a healthier option. Them linking or inking a deal, very happy for them. Congratulations to the Joms team. We have met them. Them wanting to become, you know, a part of the NFL. And partner with the NFL PA was a big deal.

And I'm excited for that. I'm also excited for potentially this means more growth for jobs. Jobs. Wait until people have these things. Jobs are delicious. They are fucking good. And you don't immediately need to, like, feel like you need to get it out of you. No.

It's good. And I'm a P.B. and J. I have been actually, as a child, I wanted to open a peanut butter and jelly restaurant where we would serve different styles of peanut butter and jelly. obviously you have it on the bread, what type of bread, what type of cut? Is it toasted? Is it not toasted? You can put these things on bagels. You can put them on absolutely anything.

You put two waffles together and have a peanut butter and jelly on the outside, maybe even French toast. You can do so many things with the peanut butter and jelly. And I think everybody in America at least agrees on that. That's why the number was astounding, whenever they reported what the NFL was going through. But me and AJ, I think we both say, that makes sense. I mean, just being able to just snagged those things. We're at the Ohio State Buckeyes building. So much things are available.

oh, there's an uncrustable peanut butter and jelly option right here. Boom. Give me that thing every single time. Joms seems to want to get into the game, AJ, a little bit. They do, and they're one of the, that's like a thing now. If you go anywhere, they claim, like, they add protein to everything. Any drink on a lot of these fast food menus with smoothies, like the protein thing. And Joms actually are, I think, a much healthier option.

Chefty breaking the news, because this is potentially a gigantic one. Sala just came out and said no seed oils in the building anymore. John's? No Cito's. No Cito. Wow. P.B. and J. Some Big J.

P.B. and J news happening right in front of our eyes right now. Congrats all parties getting a deal done. And congrats to Shafty, breaking a BB and J. That's good work, Chefty. We appreciate that.

Anything that we miss that we need to talk about? Oh yeah, baseball. Shohei Otani. He's dealing and donging. Ladies of gentlemen, Shoaheotani last night was absolutely dealing. and on the first pitch of the evening.

Remember, he has been called into question over the last couple weeks about his ability to pitch and also still remain a lethal hitter. Well, on night that he is on the bump, first pitch of the game in which everybody's tuning in to watch him, he takes that shit yard. Shohei, obviously still dominant? What's a conversation about him, Ty, and what else is happening around baseball? Yeah, I mean, he's still very dominant. His dominance is to the point where, like, last night, he wasn't super sharp, really,

but he doesn't give up any earned runs. His ERA, I believe, is 0.73 through his first however many starts of the year. That's like the best ever going back to him and one other guy, Jacob de Grom, have had that loven ERA through this many starts in the year. And yeah, I think Shohei has said, hey, if I'm pitching, I also want to be hitting, they kind of tried messing with that a little bit, but it's just to the point where like, this guy needs it bats. It's as simple as that.

He doesn't need to just lock in. pitching. Now, we'll see if they continue to do it, but they've been pretty successful so far. That was his first home run. And then, you know, I don't want to say we're in the, we're definitely not in the dog days, but we are to the point now where it's like teams are kind of starting to figure out who they are a little bit more, what their identities are. You got the Braves in the National League are kind of far and away the best team right now. I shouldn't say far and away, but they've been the best team wire to wire. They've been incredible, and they're in the same division as the Mets and the Phillies,

who obviously spent all the money in the world this offseason. And then in the American League, very surprising, the Tampa Bay Race are the best team in the American League. And they'll small ball you to death, a bunch of singles. They bunt a lot. They put the ball in play. They kind of force the other team to make mistakes. And that's the thing.

You can boo them, but they are, they have, their team is made up with guys you've probably never heard of with the exception of maybe Junior Camerero, who he's a very young player. He hit 45 homers, was in the home run derby last year. But NL, probably six or seven teams that are very good. The AOL only has, I believe, two teams over 500. So the A.L. absolutely stinks.

And then Tony, the NL Central is unbelievable, obviously, which the Pirates are in, but I know you have something else. Yeah, I do have a quick side. If you put those division rankings back up there, the A.L. West leader, the A.L. Central leader, and the A.L. East leader, are all the lowest spending teams in those divisions. Oh, so this help or hurt the CBA negotiations

that are about to take place about a salary cap. But you want to get back to conversation about teams that normally don't spend and normally don't have success. The NL Central, I think, is one of those that is kind of littered with those types of teams. I think you're about to dive into that. The Buccos have a chance. Look at us above 500.

Why are we only one game above five? What do you mean? That's fine. Is this new? That's completely fine. I haven't seen this in a while. Is this right? This is updated.

It feels like you're upset about. What are you upset about? You're in last. You should be ecstatic about them being 25 and 24. Shut up, Red Sox. You guys haven't sniffed anything other than last place since literally day one. One game out of the playoffs. We're not in last.

One game out of the playoffs. You're 22 and 27. And that's going to get it done in the Yale this year, baby. All right. Enough, please. Can you go back to what happened to the pirates? We need Paul on the bump a little bit more. I wouldn't say anything necessarily happened.

They're kind of just, their bullpen has been. Thank you. Pirates have been losing a lot of close games. So, like, it's not like, I feel like in years past, and Tony correct me if I'm wrong. But early in the season like this, they lose a lot of these games and they're getting their ass kicked. Either it's like if Skeens isn't on the bump,

they were defensively very bad, and then their offense wasn't any good. Connor Griffin has been on a tear, the young phenom. He's really starting to kind of get his feet. beat wet and it's like, okay, yeah, we are watching the everyday shortstop of the pirates for the next 15 to 20 years if he stays healthy. Them being 25 and 24, I mean, listen, they're in the best division in baseball right now. You could argue maybe the NL West with the Dodgers and the

Padres and, you know, the Diamondbacks have been pretty good. But the NL Central is kind of a murderer's row right now. We see what Mizorowski does every single time he pitch. Hey, this guy's doing some record-breaking shit, they're saying not only being the fastest guy, but also he has some other shit, I guess. Nobody's even touching the ball when he's pitch. No, yeah, his like whiff rate and everything. I mean, it's really the only thing that can derail this guy is if he gets hurt. Because at this point, like his stuff is so good. He goes out there.

And yeah, when you throw that hard, you're going to give up some home runs from time to time. But I mean, he's, he's, yeah, the NL Cy Young race. But also, so last year, so I just wanted to, sorry to cut you off here, I'm not super baseball guy. But last year when we were at the All-Star game, I learned a lot quickly. He made the All-Star team with only five starts. and the fans were very pissed off about that, but everybody in baseball was like, yep, yeah, that makes sense, yeah.

This guy's five starts, he makes the All-Star game over somebody else. And everybody's like, hey, there's a reason. This fucking guy's got a lot of hype within the baseball world. Obviously, we've gotten a chance to talk to him, and he's electric on the mound. He's a unicorn. There is no one else like him. Like, obviously, you know, guys like Skeens and, like, Terik Scoobel and some of these other guys who are super dominant,

he throws as hard as, like, Mason Miller is throwing 104, miles an hour almost every time he's throwing a fastball. But typically he's throwing anywhere from 10 to, you know, 15 pitches in a game because he's coming in and he's throwing one inning. Mizorowski is throwing 104, like 25 pitches in a game, or he's throwing over a hundred, you know, 40 of however many, like, he's doing it every single start. And they, we've, we've never seen a guy like this do that type of stuff before because like physically it just doesn't seem like you should be able to do.

A guy shouldn't be able to throw that hard every four days, and the numbers are staggering. The amount of 100-plus mile-an-hour pitches that he's thrown just this season ranks him in, like, the top 10 of, like, the last 20 years or something like that. Like, it's truly staggering what he does day and day. So this is the Cy Young race. Shout out to Eric Cross, MLB. This is currently the NL Cy Young race, and it's just littered with not only brand names, but incredible talent. Baseball has been bringing it. World Baseball Classic Help.

We talk about this with hockey with the U.S. Olympics, the men, women, and Paralympic teams winning, and hockey becoming like a spotlight for a lot of Americans. World Baseball Classic, I think, brought a lot of hype to baseball, and they've been bringing it. And obviously, you were away for paternity, which we obviously appreciate, came back with a brand new car, which, sorry. Not damn right. Brand new van. It's not brand new, but, yes, I am driving my wife's car right now, yes. And you're going to double it up because it's that nice.

I'm two of them. I just want to let you know. we haven't talked much rock. Yeah. Stone. It's hard around this time because we have NBA finals or conference finals games every night and there's NHL games every night. So if you're not like, you know, I'm watching NHL and NBA and the Yankees have kind of been relegated to the phone. And that's just kind of the way it goes. But, you know, in three weeks here or four weeks when it's, you just have one NHL game, you just have one NBA game.

We are in the area where there are upwards of 14 to 15 MLB games every single day. So, like, if there is nothing else to watch, there is a good chance that you're going to run into seeing a Mizorowski or a Skeens or a Shohei or someone like that every night. Or Tarps Off. The lads are taking their shirts off. I believe in St. Louis. Stephen F. Austin made an appearance, and then it became a thing. And then we got walk-off don shots in front of the Tarps Off Boys in St. Louis against Pittsburgh Pirates, who are now just one game over 500.

And the place is going bananas. I love, okay, that this is a thing for them. I love that this is becoming a thing. I think for more teams in baseball. I like that this generation of fan is kind of bringing this type of fanhood back. Okay, we saw it in college football. Okay, we saw it in college football, start to brew a little bit. And then you're starting to see it now.

It's like, I like the excitement. I like the togetherness. I like the unity. I like the moment. I like remembering things. And I like that sports can bring people together to have a good time. And if the lads are taking the tarps off and the shirts off up there, and it's bringing wins for the team and good times for the boys,

good on you, lads. It's everywhere. It's caught fire. Don't you think, AJ? I think it's awesome. I just think about, like, the, there's always probably a couple people that didn't know they were sitting in the section that was going to do this. And they sit there, like some 70-year-old guy and his wife,

like, all right, I guess I'm doing it. Here we go. A little pure pressure to get shirtless, not a bad thing. But I do think it is a comfort level from everybody in the way. in the stadium that maybe I'm not a shirts off guy in public, but how could you not want to rally? I guess there is a lot of videos of people getting out of there. Oh yeah.

Yeah. We gotta go. We're going up there. Yeah, and then on the way, taking the shirts off. We saw that in college football once again. Now we're seeing it in baseball. You know, if anything brings people to happiness and togetherness and to experience something, I'm for it.

And I assume that a lot of these lads had quite a night after, after the TARPS office while together, which would have never happened beforehand. So, congrats to all parties enjoying the shit out of sports in a way that you're certainly allowed to do. It hasn't seemingly happened in a long time. No?

The bros have kind of come back to sports. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit of bros. Nature is healing. Fuck yeah, boys. Fuck yeah. Here we fucking goal boys. So many of those. So many, hell yes.

The amount of hell yes that are happening. So many. And then there's a walk-off at the end of it. Yeah, and he's in the guy running. on the bases is looking at you. The amount of hole, yeah. We did that. So much of that.

Just talking about that forever, maybe. I was one of the TARP soft boys that Cardinals whenever walk off on the Pirates. Like there's a chance of the... That's awesome. Like, how many times has that happened in life? The way that organically started, though, with the Cardinals and Stephen F. Austin,

the baseball team was there for the Division II Championship. And I believe they won it, and then they went to the Cardinals game after, and it started it. And then the manager for the Cardinals brought them into the locker room and then gave them all free tickets the next day for that whole section to do it again and then it kind of cough.

Things like that happen organically like that, much, much better than like anything that would have been forced. Agreed. What are you, why do you immediately talk about marketing employees that end up being a nightmare and actually work against you instead of for you,

but everybody's super smart because they went through a hard school and they think they're marketing geniuses. I have no idea, but it feels like you have something to say about it. No, it's not like that's what you're talking about. No, I just forced campaigns or forced things that kind of are put out there.

Some super genius things of it and it's like, yeah, we'll get everybody to buy in on this. And then all of a sudden it's like, we look like assholes. The natural things have to happen. That's why. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's why the cone. Yep, natural. Hoist the cone. Yeah.

That was just genius from one company. That saw exactly what would happen if they slapped it on a shirt. What's that? The hoist the cone fanatics? Yeah. Yeah. They knew exactly. Yeah. That was, you know what? They knew. That wasn't a guest. That wasn't organic. That was, you're welcome, Pittsburgh.

Watch this. Fanatics gets a lot of heat for a lot of things. They kind of created a pretty sick tradition in a once viewed fuckup, but maybe just a foretelling of what was to come. We don't know. Can anybody read the future actually and read minds? I'm being told no.

CIA can read your phone. It's what we're being told as well. They can also read your mind too. We know that. Yeah, Patriot actor, whatever. I think we all know that just there my words are their words. Yeah. Their words are your words and they can put words

anything changed on the mind reading situation I guess not happening they say my credit card thing somebody's gonna have to get that one for me figure that one out Debut immediately upon meeting him for the first time opening phone scrolling phone getting to something

knowing exactly what that is unless he was able to Bluetooth into Debutt's phone there which may hey fuck sounds like he does that device that he can do that with able to do that. How do he do the... But then where's he looking at? Is that just popping up on contacts that he's wearing? Like, where does he see

the answer at as well? Because he was holding something right in front of him. Someone telling him, and does he have an earpiece? But how does he get the draft order? And I would like to know if there is an earpiece for another person there, like what they think about my participation abilities. You know, in this entire thing. You've been through a lot together. What do you think about me? Were you a little bit worried

about me? Because there was a couple times where I was a little bit worried about me because I had multiple different thoughts. And he called him out on both I don't think he's reading minds though, AJ. He needs to play in a big stunt. That's the only way he can do it. He needs to be in like Times Square and then like teleport to like Hong Kong or something.

Oh, like now you see me? Kind of. Like one of those actual pictures that they have, the big portal things. I think porn stars have really kind of taken advantage of. Yeah, right. Yeah, they turned him off because of that. Yeah, because everybody was just going in to go.

Yeah. This was what used to be for only fans, but now it's for the only fans. lands everywhere. That's what you remember those? Those were like kind of becoming a thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

If Shams could, or not Shams, Oz, if he could do that and like end up on like the top of the Eiffel Tower, just like holding on that I could. Then I think then he could kind of put this all to rest and be like, oh, really. Good luck, Shams. We do get to see. Sorry, good luck, Oz. Good luck, Oz. Good luck, Oz.

Both of you. There is some magic that happens in sports on a regular basis that, that nobody can kind of describe like an in-the-park grand slami did you see this there's been a lot of defensive plays that have been popping up on my timeline specifically from one particular player I don't like that he's going to get back to being a dog

but in-the-part grand salami seems like a pipe dream and then it actually happens what happens here tied just massive fuckery yeah kind of Jimmy Wood James Wood right fielder for the Nationals absolutely pipes one into the gap so kind of a perfect spot to hit it then you can see how hard the left fielder there hits into the wall

and the center fielder has no fucking idea what's going on. The left fielder looks at him. He's like, the ball's way the fuck over there. You got to go get it. And James Wood is, he's young. He's very fast. He's tall, so he's a long strider. So really, once that kind of caromed back into center field, it was like, all right, fuck it.

You know, let's try to get an inside the park Grand Slam. I'd be very curious to see how many of these there have been in MLB history. You could probably count them on one hand. But there have been quite a few inside the park home runs this year, Little League and otherwise. So, I mean, it's like... What does that mean, Little League? Well, Little League would be like if there's like a bunch of errors and shit, and so you hit like a ground ball into the outfield

and it goes past the guy's glove or whatever and then you end up scoring, like, if you're in Little League, you still count that as a home run because it's like, hey, I got all the bases, you know, I'm still good. Like, James Woods, like, that's a legitimate, that is considered a home run. That's a grand slam because there were no errors on the play.

He actually made it to home. It counts the same as a home run. One of the greatest photos of all time is him pointing where the ball with him going, what's that? All he's behind him inside the park, Grand Slam. I also saw him, I saw some gamesmanship. Oh. Bobby Wood, Jimmy.

Yeah. Love this play. AJ, anytime I see a little slight a hand take place and it actually work, I love it. So obviously, you got a big hit and a throwback from the catcher. Aaron throw, Bobby, what's that? And then the third base coach, gosh, oh, geez, he don't have it. He doesn't have it. That's what he's saying to him right there.

Fakes that he has it, acts like he has the tag, then it holds the person, obviously, at third base. Everybody's telling him in there that he doesn't have it. There's an angle that is like truly spectacular from the backside where he literally, in the middle of, oh, no, I'm never going to catch that. You see him make a conscious decision to be like, I am going to gimmick this thing. I love whenever there's some real gamesmanship. Baseball has a lot of that, it feels like we're watching. Bobby Witt Jr., he's up for a gold platinum super duper glove, right?

Yeah, he's an absolute wizard with his glove. bat has really come on this year. I mean, he's always been a good hitter, but he was struggling a little bit at the start. But yeah, I mean, he's good for like, you know, I don't know, 10 plus highlight plays a week, it seems like. He's just unbelievable. Everything he does is very he has very he makes. That is incredibly difficult. He makes it look super easy. And it'd be nice if the Royals could pick it up a little bit because they're kind of a younger team that has a lot of guys who are, you know, they got the passquatch. They got Jack Caglione. They got a bunch of like young talent, but they've been struggling a little bit.

So it would be, like, that's the type of team who, if you're not really invested in baseball, like, you can see yourself kind of pulling for them and kind of ride in their story for the rest of the summer. And Bobby Witt's got silky hands. Yeah, very silky mitts. You've got silky mitts out there. PCA's in the middle of one right now. PCA's in a middle one right now.

I'll figure it out. It will. It will. Come on, PCA. Come on, come on, Pete. Come on, Pete. Boom. Bang.

couple like just come on yeah happens just a quick mental lapse you know long season a lot happened he's a dog oh yeah we're excited to watch him continue to showcase that jazz chisholm junior he was doing some cool stuff is he back what do we have about him yeah jazz is he he did not have a good first couple weeks first month of the season and this is a contract year for him so very very important he's been slumping big time so he basically said okay i need to start wearing my teammate's pants. I can't wear my pants anymore. John Carlos Stanton is on the IL right now. Jazz said, hey, Big G, let me wear your pants. Let me put Big G's pants on them. Exactly. And Big G. basically said, like, yeah, there's a lot

of homers in those pants. So I figured if I can't use them right now, Jazz can. He has been on an absolute tear. I believe he was wearing Trent Grisham's pants in this particular game. But he did go yard. He had another three hits last night. So baseball is one of those things where superstitions, it's weird. He's also using Jose Caballero's bat, the Yankee shortstop. So he's basically not using any of his own shit, and all of a sudden he's caught fire, so it's kind of

awesome. And I would assume, like, I'm hoping that maybe Jazz is wearing, like, Judge's cleats tonight. It might be a little big, but I'm hoping he'll do something like that. Is he using his own glove? Or are we going... His his mitt in the field has never been the issue. We need more production from Jazz at the plate. Oh, so he's trying to get Big Gee's pants

on, so you get Big Gee's back. Exactly. And he's found it. Yeah, he's certainly. He's swinging that bat, too. Is he using others' bats or is he still got his? No, so the Yankees' every day starting shortstop, who is also on the aisle, I believe he's coming back tomorrow. Jose Caboero, he's been unbelievable, and Jazz said, Jose, let me get your bat. Mine's not working right now.

Let me use your bat. And boom, he had three hits last night. I've taken other people's putters. Yeah. You know, if they're making it, hey, let me give it a go here. I think it's what you're doing. Not me doing it. As long as it works, who cares.

Jazz is certainly a vibes guy, though, right? Oh, yeah, big time. We might be seeing this for the rest of the year. year. I hope so. He might have Boone's pants on it. He might wear Boone's pants. I'd sign off on that. Are you on, are you in on Boone? Because I know you guys are really air Ron Boone and then air off Boone as well. Way too early. You know, none of this shit really matters until we get to the playoffs. So like right now, yeah, Boone's great. You know, and it could be a lot worse. He could be like Tony

Vitello. He could be the, you know, giant skipper. So, yeah, you know, I count my lucky stars with Boonee because obviously it can get much worse. But again, when you're the Yankees, like none of this shit matters. They need to win the World Series this year. And if they don't, yeah, there will be probably a lot of Booney needs to go. Cashman needs to go. What the fuck's going on? That's kind of just the way it works. All right. Well, go Yangs, go baseball. I'm lucky to do that. Let's go back to the NFL. Huge sign up there in Detroit. Shefter broke the news while the show was live today. It's not just jobs in the NFLPA. It's also Jack Campbell and the Lions. Maybe Jacko! Jacko!

Jacko! Remember, immediately following draft night, a lot of people said Jack Campbell was a reach. Jack Humble was a reach. And then Jack Campbell was a reach. And then Jack Comble, does exactly what he did at Iowa, just be an absolute dog for Dan Campbell in that defense, and now he's rewarded with a deal. Foxy, we knew this was coming for Big Jack combo? Yeah, absolutely. Jack Campbell is everything you want in a linebacker, okay? On that defense, you got Aidan Hutchinson.

He steals the show, he's the star, he's a very good player, but Jack Campbell is the heart, he's the soul, he's the grit, he's the jam, and he is everything you want on your defense. And he deserves this, and he kind of gets this whole thing. going, so I'm very happy for Jack Campbell here. This is a big decision by Dan Campbell as we move forward on a new defense with Kelvin Shepard in his second year as defense coordinator.

Last year didn't make the playoffs, what will this year bring for the Motor City Lions? Well, I remember earlier this year, maybe a month ago, a month and a half ago, they didn't pick up his fifth year option because the fifth year option for linebackers is absurd for offball linebackers because they include the edges and stuff

like that too. So that was big news. But there was never a doubt. They were going to get Jack signed after an all-pro season. Coming off at all-pro season, and Foxy said, like, yes, the leader of that defense. But, yeah, it was big news because when Linderbaum, they didn't pick up Linderbom's fifth because of the O-line, what that

number was, and they didn't do it for Jack, too. There was questions if someone else was going to try to come get him, but no, lion's still him up. And baby Jack and another Owlokkeye just kind of doing it out there, Ty. That's right. That's right. I've always been a Jack Campbell guy. I will continue to be a Jack Campbell guy, even though he is a lion, and, you know, Foxy,

he said it very eloquently. You know, Grit, sign paper, jam, Iowa Hawkeye, really nothing else you could ask of this guy. I love Jack Campbell, glad he got paid. Do the Lions find their way back to the top of the NFC North with another year of experience with both of their coordinators and maybe a new culture having to be settled in after losing Ben Johnson, AJ Hawk?

I don't know, was it Shregs who told us last year the Lions were going to have it down here and he told us pre-seasoned. Yeah, like around now, he's like, I have a hot take, I have a hot take. Do you want to hear my hot takes? I'm doing a hot take on Friday. Here's a hot take. Detroit Lions aren't making the playoffs this year. Ooh. and everybody was like, fuck this guy.

He was right. He was right. Yeah. I thought they come out of the gates hot this year. I don't know if they're able to be good, though, too. Dolphins are going to be sneaky good, too. Yeah, they were not. We did for a couple games.

Did get hot? Long one streak. Arn Malik Willis is going to dinner with the boys. Leader, man. I can't say enough about this guy. Think about this going to offensive line meals and things like that? Hell yeah. That's fantastic.

I saw Hathley's miced up from a practice. He seems like, I, I like his demeanor. I really do. Former head coach right in college. Then he goes over to Green Bay. He's obviously been around ball a long time. I like his energy.

I like what they're looking for. I think Miami's a very difficult place to win with that many players, especially with that many distractions. But hey, maybe they'll be able to find it as the Green Bay Packers front office and head coach kind of invade the Miami Dolphins building. And former quarterback. And Malie Gilles, who shined in Green Bay in front of Halfley's face, you know, is down there. So maybe the Miami Dolphins aren't as cheeks going into next NFL

season, Gumpy. A lot of money, not this year, but next year. I think we go over four and a half wins. That's the total on us this year, I think. I think we might shock some people and win five, you know? Okay, five big wins for the Miami Dolphins. Good luck down there to the Finn family. All right.

Clint Kubiak, who obviously is with the Raiders, said that Brock Bowers is a football robot from heaven. This thing created from the gods to be placed in a football uniform, and you saw it whenever he was in high school, whenever he was running the Northern California,

Napa Hills to train for football with all the potential other things he could be doing. Georgia, he was by far the best player on the football field. Now with the Raiders, he's broken all the records. He is a gift from the football gods. Makes me believe that, hey, this Raiders team with how they dealt with free agency, the amount of players they brought in, who they brought in, and then Fernando Mendoza, have you heard the reports out of camp? I heard him.

What are they? I heard him. Well, did you hear the same thing? I heard that said, yeah. It wouldn't be Fernand, no, Mendoza. It would be Fernand, yes, Mendoza. As advertised. Yeah, everything's coming out positive about Fernando Mendoza.

And I know Ty Simpson also going to be an incredible football player, but Dan Orlovsky, I think the way he was kind of talking about Fernando, maybe not being the outright number one guy, I think it was an interesting conversation that kind of started taking place around a lot of football conversations because he did go to Cal and because he did go to Indiana and it was kind of just a flash in a pan there with Indiana. There wasn't as many people that maybe knew Fernando as well. He's big, he's super smart, and he can spin the pill. That is all everything I think most quarterback or offense coordinators are looking for. Kirk Cousins there

now. The conversation is going to start to be do you start Nando or do you let Kirk lead the way and let Fernando kind of fill in behind. I think that's only going to continue. And until we get eyes on it all, it's harder for me to believe anything because the coaches are going to have to compliment him. But from what we saw him do, we all believed he'd be a great NFL quarterback,

and I love what the Raiders have done over there. Yeah, every time he was on the field and we saw him with our eyes, every throw was almost perfect, everything that we saw. So we saw it with our eyes, and then every time we talked to him, everything was perfect.

And then, yeah, like, he's huge. He's fast. He's athletic. He makes all the right reads. And he talks about, like, when he thinks about the game as a puzzle. Like, it was hard for us to envision that it wouldn't be like this. You know, like, there was never a doubt, like, this early, obviously. It's not a lot.

But, like, it's hard to see him. It's hard to see him not succeed. Yeah, it feels like with everything around him that he's ever been through, he's going to be locked in. Now, granted, a lot of it. attention. He was on a magazine cover. I didn't like what they said. What did they say, the next one or something like that? I forget the big, there was a big word right under him. I was like us doing this right here, but I like us trying to drum up some attention for Fernando Mendoza. But it feels like everything we know about him says he's a guy and he's tough. People

forget he's an absolute dog. He can take shots once to take shots gone. Yeah, tough son of a bitch and to everything Tony just said about what he did in college. You got to also think like, hey, he also has the number one new head coach, the offensive coordinator who won the Super Bowl. Bowl last year with Kubiak, who basically completely changed that Seattle Seahawks offense. You know, you're talking about Sam Donald being in his first year going and winning in the Super Bowl. Then they get an all-pro center. That's going to help the quarterback a lot. That's going to help Aschen Genti, a lot who still somehow had a thousand-yard season after

getting basically the least amount of yards before contact in NFL history, but still ended up with a thousand yards. Colton Miller is a pretty certified left tackle. And then Brock Bowers being the number one option, they're one of those teams that the number one receiver is their tight end. He's all pro. You think about that comment of football robot from heaven. It's like Gentie, I think, could be described like that. Fernando Mendoza could probably be described like that. He's six foot five fast, super smart, has an incredible arm. Like if you're going to build a football robot quarterback from the heavens, I think you would have a lot of pieces of what

Fernando has in there. Max Crosby, I think you would certainly say a never-ending engine or battery. I mean, they kind of have it. Linderbom, Tom Brady. As the owner, somebody, like, there is a lot of, like, are the Raiders not ass? Huh? We'll see. Is that what we're doing right now? I think they're headed towards the Carolina Panthers as a good football team.

And Carolina Panthers, are they going to become a great football thing? On paper, they are much, much, much, much better than they were at this point last year. The fact that Max Crosby was gone and then now he's actually back, it's like, oh, somehow they add an all pro to a team that they didn't have a lot of good players. It's unbelievable what they've been able to do. And that is a real thing, like the on-paper thing, the Patriots and the Seahawks two years ago, top five in spending and free agency. Like there is an actual kind of correlation.

I believe every team that was in the top three are the most spent team in free agency, won like three more games the year after. And the Raiders and the Titans would be the two teams that were kind of at the top to the list this year. Hey, no risky, no biscuit. That's the NFL. That's the show is a whole. What a time. Hell yeah.

Let's get the hell out of here. AJ, who you picking the night? True a lot. Let's go. Caves, Knicks. Give me the Cubs. I mean, I want to pick the Cabs, but I have a hard time. Give me the Knicks tonight. I'll take the Knicks as well.

I will take the Nix as well. Is it the first time he's ever gone against an Ohio team? I think so. Especially in this particular situation. They're not my team, but I like their Ohio roots. Yeah, they do have Ohio roots up there in Ohio's mistake. No, I'm not going to say it because I like Cleveland. Other people in the past, maybe old me would have said mistake.

the lake. But I was not going to say that because I like Cleveland. I appreciate Cleveland. I like their fans up there. But boy, some of those stats that are being shown to us are not good. And I think that is a heartbreaker in game one. You had it. Now, granted, do they have the dog mentality to come back? Is James Hardin going to get back in the kitchen? So he's going to start cooking? Is Donovan Mitchell going to be the guy that's going to get an opportunity to maybe be who exactly he is, which is 1A for the calves? Is Atkinson going to dial up some plays? Definitely. See? Or is a guy with a popped calf going to maybe run rough shot on him

and strategy with Jalen Big Shaw, Big Puddy Brunson, as Perks says. Timothy Shalmay is going to look so cool. Always does. Ben Stiller is going to be fantastic. Yeah. Tracy Morgan's going to bring it. I mean, it's going to be atomic in there, maybe. It's going to be rattling.

Remember, Shams said he couldn't believe he got out of there on the heart because the place was moving. Luckily. Earthquake, they measure those in... The Richter scale. We need to get a rector on Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Eastern Conference final. New York next win.

Kind of a casual fourth quarter, it feels like, doesn't it? I don't like that. Because that would mean that the Cleveland Cavs would kind of just quit. I think there's a chance they do. Try to save up for home. Maybe. Either that or I think if they don't win this game tonight, they're going to get swept. There's a lot of people saying that.

Is that just because we saw such a collapse at the end in front of everybody? I mean, it's just our recency bias of watching what happened to them thinking they would never be able to do it. They're in the Eastern Conference Final, though. Right. But every person we talk to about the game with the Knicks with the layoff is like, hey, if the Cavs steal game one of this series, like, then we'll see. There's a chance that they can. But if they don't, like, they have to win game one. And for them to lose in that demoralizing of a way, it's just like, I don't, I mean, I think they have to win tonight.

Otherwise, it's blouses. All right. I'll take Knicks minus six and a half, even though I don't. I would love to watch Cleveland do their thing. I would like to watch the Cavs battle like they did against the stunts. That would be really cool to kind of watch that take place. And then in the hockey, AJ, you think the Canadians, fresh off that Buffalo Sabres ride, which was electrifying, have a way to beat the Carolina Hurricanes down in the buzzsaw

that is in front of the 40,000 Caniacs that are going to be going crazy. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? I'm going to have to pick against a big perk here. Give me the Carolina Hurricanes at home. I got a tweet from Montreal today. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Mm-hmm. The city tweeted me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. How are we feeling about the Obs with glasses on, and emoji? I don't know if that means they're going to watch or they're trying to see it in 2020 vision. Sure.

What I'd like to say is I do love their team. I like the way they play puck. I like the way their city goes absolutely apeshit for the Montreal Canadiens. I like that they got a young goalie that says, I can go 100 more games you fucking do me too. At least. Seems like they are real. Grit and Joms type team up there.

But with that being said, give me the Kaniaks a hundred times out of a hundred times. Okay? Messi Bokupor all the incredible times that you're about to deliver to sports society. But the Kaniaks, I think, or maybe are representative of what maybe Montreal's fans are. So we need to think,

that we, just like the Olympics, and I don't like to bring it up. Okay, I don't like, Wayne O' kind of brought it up. Yeah, true. I don't like bringing it up. But like the Olympics, I think,

I think we win this one. And by we, I mean the Carolina Hurricanes, who I don't know if they're going to win the entire Standing Cup, but I do, I'm currently going with the American crowd being such a problem that the Canadians who have a phenomenal bar. Oh, yeah.

Phenomenal bar. Beer skate. But the Jarve, lads from Manitoba are going to be in there. The Hurricanes fans have been tailgating since yesterday for this thing. Tom Diggs just walked out.

Oh, no. He was doing this. He was doing this as I was talking there while he was staring at me. I'm happy he did make the decision just to kind of bail out that door there because I was getting a little anxious on what was going on, be honest.

You think that's poop or pee? That looked like maybe pee. That looked like the... Yeah, piping hard pies. Is that what you're? Yeah, piping out pies. I'm gonna set up there myself. So all in favor of that probably being a piss, say,

Aye. There's a chance it was a dump, we'll see. But I like the Caniacs, even though I love what Montreal's doing. Of course. And you can pick Mario and they go back on Mario. Yeah, because Montreal's environment might be the reasoning. Exactly. But I think the hurricanes, got it.

I'm on the hurricanes tonight as well. All right, AJ. You're awesome. We should wait. What if it's it long, don't? I don't I don't know if it's a dump AJ if this goes in a hoop right over here over

Sacky the elephant AJ Hawk will give 20 people $500 nice okay thank you AJ oh wait a minute as we wait for Tom Diggs who will

so graciously give 30 people $500 okay thank you so much for doing that ton we appreciate you Tony Tony you give 30 people That's very nice at Tony dogs to do that. 30 people, $500.

All you're going to have to do is repost this post. Say something nice to somebody. And maybe you could be randomly selected to be one of the $3,500 winners. It was a pissed. Oh, geez. I don't know if you heard. He almost gave away 15,000.

Yeah, I heard giggles when I walked away, so I had to see what was going on. It was a piss. Probably not nice. When we don't take the break at that one... I don't think we ever have. But then we carry it for another hour or so? Yeah.

It gets stuff for me too. I'm starting to bob a little bit here. But, Tom, we were waiting for you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're listening together.

We'll see you tomorrow. What a great night, a sport. Fuck, yeah. It's enjoy it all. Thank you so much, AJ. Great work today. We're proud of you for what you accomplished today and the adversity you battled. Thank you.

I'm going to go ice my head. Good move, hoggle. Hell yeah. Smart. Hell yeah. Both of them. Every day. Team on me.

Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.