The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1574 - Peter Schrager, UFC Lightweight Champion Justin Gaethje, Nigel Seeley, 5 Star OLB Kaden Henderson Commits, Mike Tirico, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the World Cup fever, the Knicks parade today in New York, Oklahoma and North Carolina advancing to the College World Series, n...ews floating around the NFL, and everything else happening around the sports world. They are also joined by several incredible guests including ESPN Swiss Army knife Peter Schrager; UFC Undisputed Lightweight Champion Justin Gaethje; London native, owner of World Plays Limited, and our British correspondent, Nigel Seeley on England’s huge win yesterday; 5 star OLB out of Tampa, FL, Kaden Henderson makes his college commitment; and lastly, Sunday Night Football play-by-play commentator and play-by-play for the NBA on NBC, Mike Tirico. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Beautiful people and welcome to our Humble to Bo, the Draft Games Thunder Doe. On this U.S. Open Thursday, June 18, 2026, this program begins. And now, sports. We have a major championship happening. Hell you. Nailed it. On that note. Wow. Zito is on the ones and twos in the back.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Zito, uh, you look good back there, brother. You know, baby back there. Got Bailey running to lower thirds. You got Gumpy, obviously. and clips for social. You got Bruce Brown running a computer in the back. Evan Foxy in the Foxy position, which we have now learned through learning
Starting point is 00:00:41 about the television business. Foxy does six people's jobs, I guess. Foxy, great, great job Foxy. Hell yeah, thanks, boy. Foxy. Foxy and Bruce, I think, account for about 10 people normally, whenever there is a normal thing, but you two crushing it there. Zito sitting in the positions, Zito and Bill
Starting point is 00:00:57 sitting in a position that Nick Maraldo normally sits in, you know, Plum High School legend. world ball hockey champion as a high schooler. Clap bomb from Regency Park is basically what they're called him part of him. He's celebrating life right now, so he'll be out for a little bit. We just want to let Nick know in his entire family. Hell yeah, brother.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Hey, hell yeah, brother. Congrats, Nick. The Talk to Ted was here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer. Cowboys AP tone is their tone. We got a big one on Draft Kings today. Yeah, huge one. I don't know when it's going up.
Starting point is 00:01:31 So it's not guarantee. this thing later this afternoon. Okay. We'll be able to tease something that is coming later this afternoon on the Draft King's platform that we think is a beautiful...
Starting point is 00:01:44 This is what it's about. Whenever you get a chance to partner with a sports gambling platform. Obviously, you tell the world, hey, you've got to be 21 plus. You tell people you've got to be responsible in this entire thing. You can't be an asshole.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Don't ruin it for all of us. But whenever you're gambling on games, always is to try to add a little bit of excitement. Let's not go above our means. let's not try to think that we're going to become bazillionaires from this thing. Let's just enjoy it. So that's one part of the mission, but also team.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Huge. Team coming together. What team? America's team. There will be a bet coming to Draft King's platform later this afternoon that is being called the America Game 2 Guarantee. Listen, Draft Kings is doing this, and I think this is a decision that is certainly going to be very aggressive. But later this afternoon, on the Draft King's platform,
Starting point is 00:02:30 you'll be able to opt in to the Game 2 guarantee. then you'll have to apply the token of what? Oh, if they lose or draw, you get your money back in bonus bets. Now, you won't be able to withdraw that money, but you'll be able to utilize that money as a bet later. Same amount of wager. Now, the wagers will change,
Starting point is 00:02:46 depending upon your betting unit and gambling unit. But this is what we like to call a team ride. This is what we like to call a, hey, we're going to be able to bet on the United States of America and something that we're probably going to win. Now, soccer is going to be mad to hear that, but I don't care. You think you're going to win.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We're definitely going to win. We got dogs crossed the few. field. But if we draw soccer. Yes. Happens a lot. If we lose, okay, we get our money back in the bag. That is what we like to call a fun Friday celebrating America in sports again. That is why we are so pumped up about it. That will be coming later this afternoon to the Draft King's platform.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But other than the United States of America tomorrow in that particular opt-in, the America Game 2 guarantee 21 plus, gambler responsibly, obviously, to be up there later this afternoon in all the sports gambling. World Cup has been fun to bet on. Awesome. World Cup has been a very fun thing. A lot of goals scoring, a lot of activity. And the games have been electrifying even late into the evening.
Starting point is 00:03:38 But whenever the stars come out and do their thing, Eric Kane, go ahead and add his name to the list of multiple goals being scored. Now, he obviously got a little bit of a reprieve with VAR with a penalty, and then him going right back to the same spot, kind of shows you the type of stones on this guy. He's 32 years old. We've known him since he was a teenager. He scores multiple goals.
Starting point is 00:03:59 England gets a huge win. The Brits are having a good time. And we're going to have a British correspondent joining us here in a matter of moments who might have seen the sun for the first time in his life. I think that's something that's happening to all of Europe in real time. But these soccer games have been fun to bet on tone. It feels like Draft King is probably getting a lot of action in the World Cup world. A ton of action. And they probably got killed two days ago when Mbapé had two.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Messi had the hat trick. Who else said two that? Had two that day. Harry Kane has two yesterday. Diaz has a goal for Columbia last night. two days ago all the favorites won. Now, there has been a lot of dogs. Dogs have scored, I believe, in 75% of the matches so far.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So both teams, a score and a match has been great so far for the tournament. Draws have been great so far for the tournament. Favorites the other day. And then the superstars, like the superstars scoring is great for the tournament and great for action because everyone is obviously betting on the superstars. That's what people do.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So I assume the sports books so far have not had the best World Cup, especially with America, winning 4-1. but hey that's not our problem that's their problem and we're going to keep doing it yeah i think we should keep doing it in america winning is great for soccer great for sport great for the tournament and great for us as daily sports talk joining us now a man who hasn't been with us all week we have missed them nine-year NFL vet man who always looks cool ladies jimmon broad county sports hall fame yeah there's your brother good to see you deba glad to be back boys what's that an amish hat I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I got a gift from my football agent, Buddy Baker. I believe it's, what is this, Bruce? I think you know. Buddy? Buddy. Buddy Baker's dropping on stable? New York. Siegelman stable.
Starting point is 00:05:40 There we go. So it's that, but it's a big day, man. Big day in sports. Obviously, I missed the finals talk, but we got a major. We got a major starting a day, obviously, in golf. And then we got a victory, a championship parade for Bruce's New York Knicks. Congratulations again. I love parades.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I love to see him. I'm not a parade guy, but I do love watching him. Last two years, Florida, I've seen a couple with the Miami Heat. Marlins had some back in the day, still waiting for the Miami Dolphins. But I love parade time, especially for a city like New York. We've been there a couple of times. We know it's been a long, long time.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So seeing all these people, who knows what these numbers will actually be. So I love seeing this. I do like the fact that the way they're going to calculate this is any human that's outside in New York City today is going to be calculated to the parade, which, hey, they might be. I mean, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade seemingly has massive crowds every single time. and I was wondering myself as a family, my family never went to a parade. I don't think we ever went to a parade.
Starting point is 00:06:33 St. Patrick's Day parade I started going to, but that was just a parade of drunks. Sure. That's kind of what that was. But I do appreciate the people that go out and celebrate the hell out of their city. That is basically what a parade is. Come celebrate what our city is while it is being showcased
Starting point is 00:06:46 and while we're all kind of coming together. And any time you get a championship parade in a city that hasn't had a chance to have one in a long time, people show up. Cleveland shut down the entire state of Ohio. They weren't letting flights into Ohio because I was over here in Indianapolis. whenever the Cavaliers won after LeBron James brought it back home.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I was like, I need to get, I'm going to go over there. They were shutting down roads into Ohio because people were trying to come. It was so vast. Obviously the Kansas City Chiefs the first time they had a chance to do it. It went crazy. There's always going to be some sort of spectacle at all these parades. In New York City, shutting down basically for it all. It's going to be incredible.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And shout out to sports bringing people together like never before seen. And shout to New York City winning something for the first time ever. Now. Now. Is Ben Stiller getting a ring? He better. He should. Timmy too.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I think a lot of people mad when Ben Stiller came out and said, I do not pay for those seats. So I could not afford those seats that I sit in. And everybody's like, well, he's a fake fan. It's like, Ben Stiller, I think, has been, Ben Stiller's played an 82 game season, I think, with the next four. For basically, what, 40 years now? 40 years now or something like this.
Starting point is 00:07:54 How do we feel about that? Because James Doling, when he gave his speech to the, the next 10 weeks before the finals. And he said, tell your partners that they're going to win rings too, because they're a massive piece of this entire thing. And if you don't have a partner or whatever, find somebody to do this journey with, and they'll get a ring as well. And then that led to obviously some people talking about who all gets a ring or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's like, I think what Dolan was trying to say and what the city is trying to say is, the people that work their asses off aren't just the people that are necessarily on the court. Obviously, Jalen Brunson is a huge piece of this. He'll go down as a man who's going to have a statue on Madison Square Garden and everything. like that. So that is not crazy. But I do like the aspect of the city celebrating today. And for the rings, Dolan saying it's also a team effort. We got in this building. We can all enjoy it and celebrate it. That's what's supposed to be like. Yeah. That's pretty dope. And like you said, him, Spike Lee, obviously has been there forever. He's kind of,
Starting point is 00:08:43 I would say, probably the most famous or notable fan, at least for me, when I see the Knicks, I think of Spike Lee. Jack Nicholson, I think of the Lakers. So he's kind of been there for those years, too. So I do like when those guys get the rings. But I mean, who cares? If James Dolan wants to say, all right, instead of my paying $500K for a seat, I'm going to give this to Ben Stiller, give this to whoever to be court side, because that's who I wanted the games, that's who I want front and center.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Ben Stiller's shooting a documentary that we'll see short at some point. But so, yeah, that's on James Dolan. That's his call. We were in that arena. That arena is incredible. So I'm happy for the fans. You know, I'm obviously an Eastern Conference guy, I've been a Miami Heat fan, so I'm not rooting for the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But to watch them going on this dominant run after what Jalen Brunson is did, how he closed out that game, them finally getting the championship after 53 years. Like, the whole story with sports is just incredible. Yeah, I really love it. I really enjoy it all. And joining us now is a man who loves him more than us.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. I don't know if he's a parade guy. Do we think he's live from the parade? Doesn't feel like he's a parade guy. Nah, he went to the games. I think if he was in the parade. I think if he was working, if he was in the parade, or I think you'd feel honored to be a part of the parade would definitely go.
Starting point is 00:09:55 If he was working parade. I think would be there. Not sure he is, because he's pretty active. Yeah, very. He is a mobile. Yeah, but he is a, always a mover and a shaker. Even when he's on the show, it's hard for him to stay in the room in which he's confined to room. He is in there, maybe live from the parade, but we definitely know, went to all of the games, traveled out here to Indianapolis last year for all the games whenever he could,
Starting point is 00:10:20 diehard Nix fans, super insider for football, but also an Emmy Award winning pundit. Ladies and gentlemen, superstar Peter Schrager. Not at the parade. Okay, I see that. Not the parade. No, can't do it. That was a big, hard no there. Don't you think it's a beautiful thing, the celebration of the city and everybody coming together?
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's great. I'm not a parade guy, Pat. Millions of people on top of each other and what they're calling pens, P-E-N-S. No, that is not my world. I appreciate it. I love that people are there. And a lot of this parade stuff is for, if you didn't go to the games or you don't get a chance to see the guys in person, I think it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And I have friends who took trains from Merrick and Comac and Greenwich. And you mentioned the spot in New Jersey you want to at 3, 4, 5 a.m. to stand in line to get a good spot. And I absolutely love that they're there. But, Pat, you can't find me in that mass of people. Absolutely not. Okay, let's talk about a mass of people that I found somebody in. Ben Stiller took a picture from his documentary and posted it here. And it was a widespread of the celebration on the court, obviously.
Starting point is 00:11:26 right down right, Stanford, Steve. Under 9, he's got front billing right next to Scott Van Pound, obviously doing it all. But that vibe right there was felt in the city throughout the entirety of this New York Knicks playoff run. Can you talk a little bit about it as a diehard, very loyal New Yorker in the city, New Yorker? I think you try to tell people that so everybody understands where you're at, where you're not at, and where you've been, and where you weren't willing to move from. Remember, they picked up Good Morning Football. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Senate to Los Angeles and Shrek said, I'm not moving. Yeah, right. I am not leaving New York. What has it been like riding alongside this team? And now that a championship has been won, how do you kind of view it all? Yeah, I choose to raise a family in New York City. It's very difficult. It is not easy to do this.
Starting point is 00:12:12 My kids are confined in an apartment that is yay big. And I think it's good for them because they get cultured. They ride the subway. They see all walks of life. And a lot of times, you know, in the last few years, there's been everyone leaving New York. We're going to Miami. We're going to Palm Beach. We're moving to the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Scarsdale. And we have been ten toes down. And it's moments like this where you see the city all come together. Like, I see the governor and the mayor on the float. It's like, I don't need to see them today. I want to see the non-politics of this whole thing. I want to see everyone together. And that's what this next run was.
Starting point is 00:12:50 It was all five boroughs. it was the outer boroughs. It was all races, all ages, all generations, all walks of life, socioeconomic. Everybody was all in on this Knicks run. And it was a really happy, pleasant, amazing month of May and June. And I really think it was because of the New York Knicks. People say hello on the street. People are wearing their Knicks gear.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Everyone is embracing everybody. And I got to say, like, I get overwhelmed with emotion about a few things. New York City is one of them. and the power of sports is the other. And as much as people must hate on New York and don't love the New York sports teams, I get it. It's hard not to appreciate the heart of a champion that this team had coming back the way they did
Starting point is 00:13:32 and not being built of five-star recruits and superstars and then finding a way to unite this entire city together. I said it early on with you. I am not a gatekeeper with this team. There's a lot of people who are like, get off the bandwagon. You're a 35-year-old mother who lives out in, in Armand, New York, you don't get to post about the Knicks on Instagram now.
Starting point is 00:13:53 No, come aboard. Everybody is allowed to come on board, and I love that this team welcomed everybody with open arms. I love that Chalemay was right there in the middle of it, and also the fact that the players are just a big of fans, seemingly of the big fans of the team as well. It does have a big family feel. It does have a big family feel in New York.
Starting point is 00:14:10 How long will this last forever? Yes. Yeah. Maybe New York is just happy now. It's 53 years. They've been waiting. They get it. Let's take top of it.
Starting point is 00:14:18 off the happiness and now it's overflowing in abundance every single day. I like that. Why not? Where does basketball rank out there, Shreggs? I know you got baseball, the Yankees. One. It's one. It's the city game. It is. And it's, and it goes back to, you know, the 50s and the 60s and City College and all that. And then you go through the 80s with Chris Mullen and Kenny Anderson and all the city legends to Marbury and Telfair. And you go through the list. It's always been the city game. And it takes place at Rucker Park and it takes place at West Forth. And it takes place in Brooklyn and it takes place everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:50 This is the city game. And to see the city be able to celebrate like this is truly wonderful. And Pat, you mentioned, when's it gonna wear off? This is a really cool deal about winning a championship. You can cash those memories in whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It's like an ATM. You can now go on anytime you want to say, I want to relive it. All right, type in on YouTube, Alvarado three-pointer game four. It's there and you can feel it all over again. 53 years is the longest drought. that any team in the NBA has gone through between championship teams.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Some people are lucky enough to be alive for the 73 squad and today's squad. But forever, there's going to be Knicks fans far and wide who can just tap into their phone or their memories and say, Deuce McBride, Bankshot 3 from the corner, game one. And it's all there, and you can feel it all over again. So it is forever. And I think if you guys are fans of championship teams growing up, it's always going to be in your heart. It's a special time and a special moment.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I'm so happy for all these Knicks fans who get to feel it now. Yeah, Connor went to like 14 parades as a child up there. Boyled. Yeah, it's unbelievable. And then we thought it was all going to crumble for him. And then, lo and behold, actually, they end up getting right back to the Super Bowl, and they're going to get to experience it probably sooner than later for everybody else. But yes, that parade is what an entire city is kind of waiting for.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Today will be a massive celebration. Congrats to you. You're, I believe, also a man who understands the Hamptons a little bit, you know? And not only is the Knicks parade. today over there in New York City, but on Long Island over there, there's a U.S. Open taking place at Shinnecock, you know? And Shinnecock
Starting point is 00:16:25 this morning has certainly been showing up. You know, Long Island, the home of Amityville horror. This morning, it looked like a horror film. As James Nicholas Teed off, a man from New York was the first guy to hit a shot this morning. And then let's go to Henry Riggs on the 10th, his
Starting point is 00:16:40 first hole of the morning. How's it going? You're playing Shinnecock? I heard that place is tough. Henry Higgs says, no, I'm actually on a fair. Way. Got a nice little chip in here. Going to probably make Birdie on my first hole. Instead, he chips to about 10 feet and it's gone. Oh, no. It is still going. Oh, it's stopped, right? He's still putting. Yeah, that's good. He's good. He's good. He's good. He's good right there. Harry Higgs, sorry, not Henry. It's gone. Oh, ball is gone. That's his first hole. That's his second shot doing that. Think about what Harry Higgs has to think about for the rest of the day. Harry Higgs, it's still.
Starting point is 00:17:17 going. He's going to pick it up. It's going all the way back to him. That's what we're looking at at Chinicock on Long Island. And then here's Brooks Kepka. You know, he's dressed awesome today. I mean, he dressed awesome. We get the... Look at the wind. Yeah, exactly. The wind is Halen. Kepka, no stranger to the course. That's a good fight. That's a good fight early to save par. Congratulations to him. But obviously Long Island and the Hamptons now, absolutely crazy because summer, can you tell me about the U.S. Open coming to town and what this normally means for the entire area. It's awesome. So I'm out by Montauk, which is about three and a half hours from the city,
Starting point is 00:17:55 all the way at east. I'll be at Shinnock tomorrow as a fan, going purely as a fan. My friend Eric Ziff invited me. I said, I will be there and I'll be watching because I love this tournament. And for the U.S. Open to come down to Long Island's pretty cool. Shinnecock, a really tough course. They're comparing it to Pebble Beach in a way, but it looks like these guys are struggling early, and there was obviously a haze above today that caused a delay. But this will get really heated come Saturday and Sunday, because it's Father's Day weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:22 School is out. It's a three-day weekend for the New York City kids because of obviously the Juneteenth holiday, but also school is over. So everyone's going to be making their way all the way out here, and I have feeling this is going to be one of the most electric finishes of U.S. Open history. I don't know where he's out in the leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I don't know if he's teed off, but Cam Young is a New Yorker. So if that is a story I can follow right now, as I was walking around, there's like a Hampton's magazine. He's on the cover of Hampton's magazine. Like, there's a local story there. Let's go. What you say, Tony?
Starting point is 00:18:53 He looked unbelievable on the cover of the magazine. Last time I checked, he was two over. He's one over. He's one over now. He's battling. He's got that New York great. It's only a shot off a leader, two shots off of leave. Okay, let's get off.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Let's get off of talking about New York being great. Okay. Jeez. They introed him from Florida, too. I don't know if that's, where he lives, but they said, does he really go by Florida? They said Palm Beach Gardens.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's messed up. Florida boy, I like that too. Going back into New York, excuse me, you know, Florida. That is messed up because I was going to say
Starting point is 00:19:25 he didn't do that at the Rider Cup. I don't want no Floridian on the cover of Hampton's magazine. What are we doing? Yeah, I'm sure that's abnormal. I'm sure that's abnormal
Starting point is 00:19:35 for somebody that has a house in Florida to be on the cover of Hampton. Yeah, I'm very, I can't believe. that what, there was a World Cup game, right? Yeah, New York, New York, New Jersey Stadium. My bad, my bad, my bad. In the shadows of New York City, there is New York, New Jersey Stadium.
Starting point is 00:19:53 The artist formerly known as MetLife Stadium that hosted a World Cup game, right? Yeah, yeah. Good one. Brazil. Brazil. Eli was there and everything like that. What's a France one? Nick's obviously win the finals that weekend into that, and then now they got the U.S. open?
Starting point is 00:20:10 see this is why the New Yorkers will always be like is the hottest bat they've ever had ever in my life I think this is certainly the hottest and the Yankees don't lose yeah they're piping hot right now and Judgey's not even playing so it's kind of you know everything's coming up bases for New York right now holy shit by the way do you see Hart and Brunson throw just darts for their opening pitch just perfect pitches yeah strikes both and I think both the catchers are like
Starting point is 00:20:36 damn actually pretty good they didn't throw from the bump though so I don't love that Did they? What? Yeah, I don't know if it was the shoes or the mind. One, one, they didn't want to mess up. They just, it was kind of like when senior citizens go out there, and they say like, hey, thank you so much to this World War II vet for coming out,
Starting point is 00:20:54 going to throw the first pitch. They stand right in front of the mind, and then they throw it out there. But to be clear, both of them. They should have took turns for the month. Yeah, I agree. You got to be the president throwing it off the mound. They don't let anybody up there before the game. The Yankees don't let anybody up there.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I saw Fed Joe up, dude. Timberland's on. Yeah. Oh, stop. Lime. Single-handedly lost in the World Series. Exactly. Have you seen the Wembenyama pitch at the U.S.,
Starting point is 00:21:16 at the Yankee game for a couple years ago? It's a beauty. No, is it from the mound? It's from somewhere. Basically, throws it into the ground and it rolls. All right. He won't have done that. Way to go.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I like that. You did that. There was a cheers, I believe, by the boys from my understanding in that entirety. I like that there's beef. Okay, let's pivot away from the NBA in New York City being the greatest. It's not. get that out of the way too I think she might be performing
Starting point is 00:21:43 by the way someone told me Alicia Lisa's gonna anybody else anybody else that could be performing over there in New York to go rules on a float Fat Joe is on a float
Starting point is 00:21:51 everyone made it out of the woodwork guys they're all there it's gonna be fun Connor and Connor mentioned some people that maybe weren't mentioned that are famous famous famous New Yorkers that could potentially not be attending
Starting point is 00:22:02 the parade today in my year right there we won't chat about that we'll chat about the good things we'll chat about the good things here congrats to New York Congrats. All right, let's move to NFL stuff. I know you're up there in Mon Talk.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I don't know how much you get to tap into what's going on in the football world. Some precedent-setting stuff taking place right now. Go ahead, Tone. Yes, Shragues. We're a couple of days away from the summer solstice, so not normally a time for NFL news, but this year it is. Brendan Sorsby has, or I don't know if officially he's declared or tried to declare for the supplemental draft, but that feels like how it's going to be. We're waiting on Roger to tell us if there is going to be a supplemental draft or not.
Starting point is 00:22:37 we've had people on this week that think all 32 teams will be in person or present at his quote unquote pro day, his workout for his interviews and things like that. I know you are doubting with a lot of GMs and personnel around this league. How do you feel about the attendance at his pro day and how many teams, maybe what round would he potentially go on the supplemental draft? Yeah, so the supplemental draft is basically like you bid for a guy and it's you say what draft round you would want him and it's kind of a blind bidding and it hasn't been interesting in years. this is one of the most fascinating cases for a prospect because he had no intention of going pro. He was supposed to return and go to Texas Tech this year is coming out. So now scouts have to, if they are interested, have to scramble and watch all his film and look at it from an NFL lens. And oh yeah, by the way, is he going to be facing a major suspension from the NFL if you do spend a supplemental draft pick on him?
Starting point is 00:23:32 So we haven't heard from Roger and I think everyone's looking at the commissioner right now and saying we need some guidance here before July 10th. We're going to deploy our scouts and we're going to really go into this thing. The fact of the matter is this. These NFL players who are caught gambling, they miss a full year of football. And I look at Calvin Ridley, who was a pro-ball, all-pro wide receiver, missed a full year was not allowed in the facility, okay? That was kind of the precedent that was made.
Starting point is 00:23:59 However, we have now been years from that. Is there a different bending or softening of the rules for a player that's coming in with something and didn't do it as a professional. I look at marijuana, and I say that as a statement you could put on, I look at marijuana, but I look at marijuana 20 years ago, it was like, gosh, if a player had something with weed in college, there was no chance an NFL team was going to take them. And now it's like we don't even look at it in the same lens. We don't even test at some point.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So is this that now with the gambling? And do we penalize this young man from having a career because of the gambling suspension, or is it, hey, we have to look at this in a different lens because of where we are as a country and with sports and with all our partners with how we do the sports wagering, whatever it is. So, fascinating case. You're kind of planting a flag here as the NFL and how we're going to handle these. And oh, by the way, one last thing.
Starting point is 00:24:54 If he does have an addiction to sports gambling, which is still a possibility, I know he's gone and gotten treatment, that will be picked up right away if he places a bet on draft Kings or Fandul. Whereas if you come in with an alcohol problem or you come in with someone who uses illicit drugs, you might not be able to detect that right away. And that can go under the radar and you can do that in privacy and not being tested every day for it. If you place a bet on Fandul and your Sorsby, you place a bet bet on Draft Kings or fanatics or wherever you do it, the NFL is monitoring it and you will be penalized right away. So it's a very tight rope and a thin wire and I'm fascinated to see how the NFL handles this.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That was not me that said that. That was comment. Fanatic things. Yeah, the Draftings where, but we do not want anybody who has a problem gambling at Draftings, only 21 plus responsibly. And also there is a, I believe there is an app, which calls in a question what Ron Slavin, the attorney for Soresby said on WFAN, I think. No, Dallas one. F-A-N, yes. Yeah, the fan, sorry, geez. The fan, W-fan, A-fan.
Starting point is 00:26:04 So many. of them. But they're, hey, they're always on your side and they're all great. I like local radio. I'm from Pittsburgh. There's a lot of local radio. I respect local radio and appreciate local radio. But Slavin goes on and says, the people who I feel worse for besides Brennan is Texas tech. I think where they messed up was they talk
Starting point is 00:26:18 too much. If anybody should be questioned or be catching heat, it should be Cincinnati because they knew for two years they never said anything. That's a huge accusation for an attorney to be, or agent, lawyer, person to be saying. That's a big, that's a huge statement to be saying there. So obviously we'll continue to follow that, but
Starting point is 00:26:34 there's something that college athletes have to have on their phone. I think it's called Prohibit. And it is basically, it tracks any gambling app that you download onto your phone. So they can literally see, allegedly, they can see everything through this pro-hibit. And I think the teams all have access to it for their, so I think that's where the conversation starts coming.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Like, if he did make 60,000 bets or whatever it was like, was he doing it under other names? Because then they said when he went to Texas, because they didn't have a sports gambling there. He was having other people do it. Because if he was doing it under his name on his app on his phone, allegedly there's something that's supposed to be able to catch that. Who had the information that was caught?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Were they withholding the information from anybody from helping them? That's the whole next step in this thing is how do we catch these types of situations before they become runaway trains at 60,000 bets as opposed to catching it early, which I think a lot of the platforms have now. I mean, if I lose a bet where I go max unit on, I have to watch a video, I have to do three check marks, I have to say, I don't want to suspend my account. Would you like to lower your limits?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like, there's a lot of things that just Draft Kings is doing to me whenever America loses to Italy in the world baseball classic. Nice key role. Yeah. Yeah. When America loses to Italy as minus 5,400 or whatever it was favorites, and I bet max bet on that, the next time I logged into Draft Kings,
Starting point is 00:27:58 there is a full, hey, you have to watch this video before you go any further. and it's like a full thing. So it's interesting because with where we are with the technology, and you mentioned marijuana being kind of a metaphor for this type of situation, the only difference is like marijuana has medicinal purposes, and it's obviously been studied in stats. It's been around for a long time where I don't think sports gambling has that. But I think what you're saying is the softening of the view upon the doing of it,
Starting point is 00:28:24 is what you're saying. We could do the different one. How about Terrell Prior getting tattoos in college and then being thrown the book? And now it's like, that'd be a better analogy than maybe the marijuana. it. But like now there's going to softening the view, like the view of it, like the automatic judgment of like this, because it did sound like this guy had a problem. Oh, yeah. Like it sounded like he had a real problem. And I assume to Ron Slavin's point, I assume somebody, somebody had to have known that it was all happening. What would be the level of concern too if you are a team. Obviously
Starting point is 00:28:53 maybe some blowbacker you'd sign him, but even him like, I guess relapsing for lack of a better term, but going back, because if anybody knows addicts, yeah, you have to probe it. You have to think, but you find a way around those type of things, and you go to any lens of that. Hopefully that's not the case. The swordsman, he got the help that he needed, but I would be. A year off too. Yeah, I would be interested to know how much. I don't believe the 32 teams thing.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I know that's something, you know, we say, but I don't believe that. But he is a talented kid who had a first round grade, who has the tools. And I hope he does get an opportunity. I think this was the right move. I think he could have did this and kind of help Texas Tech out a little bit not to look like absolute goofballs. but I hope it does plan out well for stories. Yeah, it did happen to Patriots part of receiver, Kishon Booty.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Like he wrote an entire player's tribune about his gambling addiction at LSU. And I think he was projected first round pick the year before all this stuff happens. He ends up being a six-round pick. And he, like him explaining just the process of like, hey, every time I woke up from, you know, whether I was taking a nap, going to bed, the first thing I'm doing is opening my phone and check in whatever gambling app it is. So it is a very serious addiction, but to Dary's point, like, addiction is a daily thing.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like, that isn't something where it's like, yeah, I beat it. It's like, no, if you're addicted to something, every single day you're just trying to last. Okay, so David Payne-Perdam. Can we see who this guy is first? Who is this? If he's a sports betting. ESPN betting.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Cincinnati's knowledge of Brendan Sorsby's gambling stems from an alert the school received in August 2024, showing Sorbsby attempted to access fantasy site prize picks, according to court documents. The school questioned Sorbsby after the alert and was told that he was denied access to prize picks and had not placed any wagers. UC says it did not receive any additional alerts related to Sorbsby during his two seasons. Okay, so then there's something malfunctioning. Then there's something not working? Well, and that also, like, you still probably need to do your due diligence.
Starting point is 00:30:47 You know, if a guy gets, what we know now, like it's very easy to just kind of wipe your head. Well, hey, hey, you know, he didn't get into it. So we're done with that. Jill's still on your starting court. Yeah, but also there is a lot of things to Cincinnati's defense. They would say there's a lot of things in that we're supposed to tell us whenever this happened. So a crazy situation, precedential setting situation.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And we'll see if Roger Goodell, if that's how that works. Goodell just got to say, yeah, we're doing it or no, we're not doing it? Yeah, the league office will dictate whether there is or not and how they want to handle this. And we haven't heard yet. So we shall see. I think that's the last remaining, like, big piece of news. And it just kind of came up. and we always get news in the off season that just spurs up.
Starting point is 00:31:28 But that's one that I know all the league executives are looking at. It's not necessarily about Sorsby. It's about this situation at hand. And they know that this will be not the first case of a young man who's going through some sports gambling stuff as a college student. Good luck out there, good though. How about commission having to call Sorsby into the office? All right.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Tell me about it from the beginning. Sits down. I want to hear about everything from Indiana until now. And then he walks out of there. I don't know what I'm going to do. Good luck. And then what? Gadell decides whether or not he opens it up.
Starting point is 00:32:02 The application process ends on Monday. The league office can certainly say that they're investigating, turning over every stone. That gives them at least another week, right? So then that's the next Monday. Then, you know, they can say, we're still trying to figure out some last thing. They technically have a couple weeks here, right? Don't you think the same thing? But the July 10th date, I guess, all of a sudden becomes the deadline.
Starting point is 00:32:26 for Roger Goodell? Yes, and training camp follows right thereafter. So it's like once football starts, are we really dragging this on into that? And I don't know if I know the NFL well, they're not looking to start off back together weekend with the NFL with Brendan Sorosby Gambling Talk. Jeez, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:43 All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. Let's pay your shragor. Enjoy New York. Enjoy New York, brother. Enjoy New York. What were you going to say there, Connor? And then so let's say, you know, the league decides, hey, we're not doing the supplemental draft,
Starting point is 00:32:55 which I think we all assume they might. Does then he roll over to next year? Does he become a free agent? Like, how does that work? I'm telling you this. And I've asked this question multiple times, just strictly because I know how old some of the people are that work in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And that's not a slanderous old. But I am talking, old people have their way of thinking. That's why they're saying is like, old dog new tricks. How old? You were in the office? How old? We talk, like, politician? old or like no you're talking about in football I'm like the owners there's some
Starting point is 00:33:29 oh oh the owners yeah I thought you're talking about like NFL offices or that too like there's some people that have been around the league for what like 30 years 40 years working jobs that aren't owners like just been with franchises that have been around a long time who take a lot of pride in what the league has become and has been a long time shield and have some influence have some influence even though they're not the one per club they have been around it for as long as they've been at different buildings whether it's executive this president this chief of this whatever it is they've been around for a long time and all these
Starting point is 00:33:55 buildings. It's like they're, the gambling on the game thing, it is as serious. Yeah, it really is. Because nobody wants that to be associated with their brand. So nobody wants that to be, I mean, look, the black socks. I mean, that's forever, you know, Pete Rose's name is forever. Now, this is not that situation because he did not gamble on any games in which he participated. Okay, that is, I guess, documented and out there. So that needs to be kind of understood. He was gambling on like, uh, what, Fiji taking, Turkish basketball. Something.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So it clearly was just like gambling on anything that he possibly could. Smaller bets. So maybe it's not as whatever. He was clearly addicted to it. But there is the Indiana situation where he's on the team. So it's like, is that enough to piss off these olds who have influence around the league to be like, we're going to take a stand if you let this in? I don't think that's the case. I think Roger will say, yep, run a supplemental draft and then let the teams decide.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I think he will want the teams to decide if they think it's good or not. And if a team puts in a bid, they can easily. say, well, this team was going to do it, so we did it. So I think it's like a fascinating case study here on how this all goes. And I mean, it's a different league, but like the NBA has just gone through this. Like the NBA, we talked about probably for two weeks with all the gambling and poker situations they just had. So like there has been a massive spotlight on it. But it does feel like because the NFL's been through it with their players, we just mentioned Calvin Ridley and Rogers and some other guys. Like eventually he should be able to be in there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, fresh out of an absolute destruction of a human being on the front yard of the White House. Ladies and gentlemen, you're undisputed, lightweight champion of the world who was fought professionally 33 times, 28 and 5 record, currently on a three-fight win streak, including pummeling the faces of everybody. this past Sunday night in Washington, D.C. The man he was fighting against who just days before that said that he was going to punch his head off,
Starting point is 00:35:58 quit because this man was beating him up so bad. Ladies and gentlemen, great American, Justin Gachie. Yay! Gage! Let's go. What's up, man? What's up? I guess we'll call you Mr. King now, right?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Because that was Elio. It was calling himself Mr. King last week. We'll call you Mr. King. How does it feel? That was legendary. You know, I feel like a king. I'm not going to lie, but I'm no king. Okay, so I like that you think that you're no king.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You're humble enough, obviously, which is why I think we all have fallen in love with not only your fighting style, but your fighting story. Whenever you're in there and you're leaving the Oval Office and you're trying to read whatever language that was that they wrote the Declaration of Independence and I like that you are so truthful too. Like, I'll tell you what? Go ahead. Hey, anybody pulls that up.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It's not this. It's like we're literally living in idiocracy. It's like the way they used to talk was obviously the correct way. We just think they sound special. Well, I do like that we have evolved their language into what we have now. And obviously our country starts there. And then now we're at 250 years old, almost at least. And we're showcasing the White House in a manner that it's never been showcased before.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I think a lot of people learned about the White House. I think a lot of people saw it in a much different light than it's ever been seen. For you, what was it? like representing your country there in that moment and obviously coming out with a win? Yeah, you know, in hindsight, all the theatrics and everything, you just made it so much more spectacular. I mean, you could not write a movie to match, you know, what we did. And the show that we put on, the quality of the theatrics was absolutely insane. I mean, it was all, you know, I didn't really get to, again, when I'm getting ready for fights, like I'm not,
Starting point is 00:37:44 I'm not acknowledging things like that because those things can't help me or, you know, they can only hurt me when I become distracted about the room that I'm in. Like, it's not going to help me. I was so focused on being so perfect for that night. And really, I mean, me succeeding that night, I mean, the farther back into my career you go, the more special this whole thing really is. And it's just incredible to have had the opportunity to do it on, like, do it on a stage like that with the production that it came with.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I mean, it just made it all so much more special. Yeah, it was, it's insane. It's a crazy life. Yeah, it's crazy life. It's an awesome life, champ. Hey, I'm disputed, baby. Oh, yeah. Go.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Come on. Yeah, no, my, yesterday my dad asked me, he's like, how's that feel, you know, waking up the first time being a champion? And I was like, I haven't even thought about it. Then I was, you know, sat there and thought about it. And yeah, it's just absolutely incredible. Like, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:38:38 King of the world, even though you don't really view it that way. Now, let's talk about the second backflip that you want for. Obviously, landed the one off the top of the cage, got a great shot in front of the white. House. Sit flip. Ah, oh, go again. And then obviously I almost
Starting point is 00:38:51 break your neck. I know wrestlers do. No, no. Come on, boys. That's Newton's first law. I just got to stay in motion. I'm the best. I'm the best follower on the mountain.
Starting point is 00:39:01 When I go snowboarding, you see me do all kinds of tucks and rolls and I'm back on my feet. Like, I was just rolling out of it. Okay, of course. Yeah. And I know your wrestlers do a lot of... First law.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I know your wrestlers. Yeah, I'm thankful that you're quoting Newton here on the, on the show. and objects, emotions, stay in motion. But that photo right there, filthy. Obviously, that should be framed everywhere in a moment that'll be remembered forever. Let's talk about something else that'll be remembered forever.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Whenever I, as non-combat sport, diehard fan, but certainly a person that watches fights. Okay, I watch fights, but I don't really know the ins and outs of everything. I don't know the history, I apologize for that. But you think Mike Tyson, boom, this guy's got heavy fucking hands. Okay? This guy can't, this guy's got heavy hands.
Starting point is 00:39:44 That's an immediate thought. I do believe that we as a society will start thinking of you as a man who has the heaviest hands of all the like have you always just had hammers like how do you kind of explain the amount of pound those through your fist like is it your technique is it always like what do you think it is you pound fagetchi you pound people's faces I mean you absolutely dismantled people's faces and it's it's so powerful sorry but Yeah, one word describes it all and it's timing. And the more you watch the sport, the more you can maybe grasp the concept of that. But creating angles, but sending direct lines of energy in straight lines through their body and through their face. When you see my face and it's not messed up, you're like, oh, something's wrong with the skin. It's really not that.
Starting point is 00:40:35 It's if you watch frame by frame when he's like I am constantly dissipating the energy that he's trying to send in straight lines. and they're all coming off and glancing off of my body and that is the timing that I have. I have my bill. I've said it if you go back to my early interviews. My A to B is unmatched. And when I can lock in and be cerebral, then, you know, and I'm in danger, then my body does crazy things and I'm able to be so technical and intuitive and cerebral with my actions. It's happening so fast.
Starting point is 00:41:10 We're like computers processing. codes and if you're constantly making adjustments and what really how i mean i was able to reset his feet every one to two seconds i was very diligent about it and i fought a perfect fight and he was completely caught off guard he was not expecting it you know that obviously is another part of this whole game is the expectations i've said it many times i don't go in with the expectations so that way i can never you know be surprised and that's just the way i compete and you know he took the opposite approach and i said it before on your show when we go to two one of we go to three, you're going to be in hell, and that's where he was.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Okay, so you talk, I mean, just so clean. You talk about your A to B line energy through him, and then you're talking about you reset his feet every one to two seconds or whatever is. Are you moving him into places so you can get direct lines of shot, and does he not even know that you're moving him to places? Because I've tried to do jujitsu a couple times, and what I realized is everything they're doing is you try to get me in a position and do something else to me. So they're like, oh, I'm getting my rib cage fingered right now.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I don't like that, but I'm moving like this just a little bit. As soon as I move like this, bang, they sneak me over here. And it's like, are you walking people into your punches without them knowing it? Yeah. Yeah, and that's why their faces are so messed up because I'm creating those angles and taking advantage of those half beats. You know, everything happens, everything in life, all the fights, it's in a specific beat. You know, it's pop, pop, pop, pop. If you can pop pop up and catch them halfway between, then, you know, that is the game.
Starting point is 00:42:38 That's the game that I'm playing in there the whole time. And it's just, it's so exciting. And it's so artistic and it's so hard to see with the human eye. Even, you know, all the years that I've done this, nobody has grasped the concept that I am, there's a method to the madness, a method to the chaos, and I'm creating situations. And that's hard fight. Yeah, you're an expert, brother. And now you're the world champ for good reason. And the world got to see it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Made a foreign lad, throw in the towel. in the front lawn of the White House on America's 250th birthday. That is a huge thing. It was very late. I'm not going to lie. I didn't watch it live. You were trying to read that Declaration of Independence. I fell asleep. Okay, was Dorny Walker?
Starting point is 00:43:26 I was alive for you, baby. Yes, you were. For all of us, brother. We watched it the next morning. It was awesome, dude. It was electrifying. The event, obviously spectacular. Great way for it to wrap up with you. You should be the main event of every fight.
Starting point is 00:43:38 We should say you have a six-month ban from fighting for medical, basically. you're not allowed to fight for six months. I think professionally, is that accurate? I already fought twice this year, and very rarely do you get me twice in one year? So there's very, very, very small chance that I would ever consider fighting this year again.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay, on that note, go ahead, Connor. What I put myself through. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, and we're, hey, I just want to let you know anytime you walk out there, know that as we're watching your little psycho, genius ass, walk to the oxygote and we're like, there's about to be a fucking war.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That's about, like, hey, we all know what's a, about to happen. No, I've said it. I feel it. Every single time I fight, when I fight, I feel the energy change in the whole arena, and I know that it happens. I've been to so many fights.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Very rarely does that happen. But every single time I walk out, everybody knows something. They're going to feel something they did not. They dream, you know, they dream to feel tonight. And I'm going to give them to that. Did you hear the G7 summit?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Did you hear president talking to, who the other leaders were, but they were talking about the fight. That's how they were starting the meeting, by the way, common ground, sports becoming common ground, which is a beautiful thing in this entire thing. And President Trump brought up, he said, the last two fights, guys are supposed to lose,
Starting point is 00:44:56 and then the other side, they're like, that last guy. It was like, you were, you're potentially bringing some world peace around here with a hell out of other people. Man, I can't tell you how thankful I am to God for just giving me the opportunity to do something like this. It's been crazy. This face right here, okay?
Starting point is 00:45:17 You're just, you're just, every part of my face is punchable to you. Like, where would you, where would you be trying to knock me out of me? Because I virtual reality box, I need a little, little heads up. I'm right, where are you, you coming? Boom, bang, pal. What are you trying? I'm always, I'm always sending shots at your neck. Because any time a human wants to get out of way of danger, they go,
Starting point is 00:45:37 okay. And so I'm always aiming at your neck because no matter when you flinch, when you hesitate, when you think your head's going to go straight to your neck. Your chin. Take your neck. Okay, so I'm going to break your face or your hands with my jaw. There you go. Yeah, so I'm going to not duck.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Okay. So as you go at my neck, I'm going to hit your fist with my. I can give you one shot. I'll give you some cauliflower here. I don't need that. I don't need that at all. Hey, Gatje. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Congratulations. Yes, sir. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Okay. So people are thinking about maybe retirement, never, right? Oh, my fear will never retire, boys. created that on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I like that. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, World champ, Justin Gitchie. Yeah, Gagichi. Think about getting some cauliflower here, though. That's a clear sign of like... That's a clear sign of like...
Starting point is 00:46:26 Not fuck with that, dude. Yeah. I do like that. Basically, everybody on Earth understands that now. Oh, yeah. Now they understand. I think there was a time before UFC was big, though, that you can walk around with a couple wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Ultimate Fighter really helped that. Yeah. And people didn't know what was about to happen. Hey, look at that little short little guy. Hey, what's going on? Oh, hey, how's it going, buddy? and a whoop, bop, bang! Oh my God, these guys put on garbage bags
Starting point is 00:46:48 and are trying to puke all day, every day in high school while we're doing everything else. Wrestlers are a different animal. Yeah. Fighters are a different animal. And sometimes they're not going to act like perfect humans. Okay? Most of the time.
Starting point is 00:46:59 All the time. If you have the trait to go in there gladiator-wise, you're not going to be a perfect human. Now, obviously, we are striving for everybody to be, but there's going to be some bad decisions made in the fight game. There's going to be some bad decisions that come out of the fight game. Gachie seems.
Starting point is 00:47:14 be his deep thinking fighter. I love everything about him. All right, joining us now as a man I love everything about too. He's been a British court of Sport for a wall. It has been a while, hasn't it? Oh, yeah. Quite some time. He came on about darts. Yeah, he did, which I'm sure he has a take on.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Oh, who's our world champ, by the way? Oh, Premier League champ back to back? Luke Littler. Did he tell us that, or was he kind of a Luke Littler hater earlier? I think he was a Van Goghwin guy. That was a bit of a Van Goghwin guy. Go in Price, maybe. And then he was over at the tennis, right?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Wimbledon, yeah. With the Guinness. Okay, obviously. Hannah Waddingham. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies of gentlemen, our British correspondent, a man who's been riding ponies in Texas, a man who took a trip to the sun and has come back in America for the English World
Starting point is 00:48:07 Cup, fresh off a massive dub for the lions over there. Is it coming home to tell us, ladies a gentleman? Nigel Seeley. Yeah, Nigel. Good morning, guys. Thank you very much for having me. How are you? Hey, Nigel, life is good.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Where are you at? What part of the country are you in right now? And how has the truth been? I'm in Arlington, Texas, and I'm heading to the airport now to go to Boston, where I'm going to go to the Scotland match tomorrow to see the Titan Army. And then I'll be heading to watch England play their second group game against Ghana. So the tournament, I mean, yesterday and the day before was stuff for dream. dreams, honestly. Only sport can bring these kind of things together where people from different cultures, people from different walks of life can come together. I went to the stockyards.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I saw cattle ranch. I never seen that. I see cowboys everywhere. And I don't think they've ever seen 250 Brits drinking 25 cans of lager and singing sweet Caroline. It was just, it was just beautiful. What was their reaction to you as your reaction to the rodeo? Is this your first rodeo? Or is this not your first rodeo? It's my first rodeo. And that was an experience as well. I mean, I think there was more English supporters there in that crowd rather than any the actual diehard rodeo fans.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But, I mean, this is my seventh world cup, though. This is my seventh major tournament following England. I'm not a member of a gym. I know it's probably a surprise that you think I'm not a member of a gym. I'm not a member of a golf club, but this is my hobby. I travel the world watching England football team play in the hope. and the big hope and the optimism that one day we can win something in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I'm 53 next week, and we've come close, but we've never done it. And that is the hope that kills you in this game. So hopefully we can do something about it, but it's only one game. We've got long way to go yet. Okay, so obviously you having a good time down there to Stockyard. That is a place that even us,
Starting point is 00:50:03 as Americans go down there and say, this is awesome. Incredible. You know, you've got cows walking down the street, you go horses, longhorns walking through there. I mean, it is, you can buy any belt, any cowboy boot, and I think any bull that you want to buy down in that area. Beautiful people, beautiful culture, and you can even get on top of one of those things. Now, maybe not Zito.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You remember that? Oh, come on. It is difficult. There was two. Her name was Rudy. See? We walk up there, three of us. There's two of them.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Okay. Bull actually goes to Zeta or whatever. And then the person holding the thing was like, you two could definitely get on, yes? And just like kind of quickly. And Zeno just kind of stood there and like, I'll take the photos, Zito said. It's a DeBone-Niwood situation? Yeah, yes. Yes, it was, but this was livestock.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And the stock itself spoke. And the roller coaster couldn't speak the bone, but the bull itself looked just in the thing. And it was unbelievable. But it is a special place. I like what's happening in America. I like foreigners coming and enjoying more than just New York and L.A. On that note, Connor has a question for you, Nigel. Yeah, Nigel, you said this is your seventh world cup.
Starting point is 00:51:09 as far as the internet goes seeing it from afar, is this the most united? You've kind of seen fans experience the World Cup because we've seen people from Japan experience in Mexico and Texas just like yourself. Freddie has taken over the internet, of course, from Germany. How would you kind of rate
Starting point is 00:51:25 that as far as, you know, things that have happened at previous World Cups from a fan experience perspective? Well, it's actually only my second world cup, but I mean to five European championship, so it's my seventh major tournament. I think the different part of this one is that it's cost a lot of money for people to come here. So the flights a lot of money. You've got to commute
Starting point is 00:51:43 across the vast country. Your ticket prices are expensive. I think everybody's just come with the idea, I'm going to have fun. When you're spending that kind of money, you just want to go and enjoy it, live it. It's a want to a lifetime experience. The American people have been absolutely fantastic. From the moment we landed, even to like the security at the airport, you know, usually those people are quite grumpy and quite miserable, but they were welcoming and everybody in. The whole atmosphere, everywhere I've been, has been everybody, embraced this tournament. We were drinking last night with some Croatian fans. They got beat. They weren't happy, but they, the better side won. There's no real feeling. Everybody's
Starting point is 00:52:19 enjoying themselves. The color of the World Cup is just tremendous, the different cultures, everybody embracing it. And I think so far, the American hosts have been amazing. The stadium yesterday's the first time I've been to the Dattis Stadium. Incredible stadium. Absolutely blown away by that. And just from the moment we got here, it's just been, It's ticked every box, and for me it's definitely been the best major football tournament I've ever been to. Well, we're incredibly lucky and thankful that you all are here in our country, experiencing it. We're lucky that it's happening right now. And to be clear, we're catching a fever too just alongside everybody else.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Nigel, obviously England gets a huge one yesterday against Croatia, so we don't need to talk. We know you're a homer. We know how much you love the three lions and how you feel about them. But you have mocked us every single time you've come on this show about Team USA and the U.S. men's national team. after their 4-1 win against Paraguay and how good they looked. How do you, how does the world,
Starting point is 00:53:13 how does outside of U.S. look at the U.S. men's national team right now because us, we're winning the whole fucking thing. Yeah, bitch. Hey, it's unbelievable. It's staying home. It's unbelievable. We are so good.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I think up until yesterday, the USA were the most impressive team in the tournament. Up until yesterday's second half, they're the most impressive team in the tournament. It doesn't surprise. him actually. I laugh with you, Pat, when we'd be on here before and you was going to tell me that you're going to win the World Cup. But you've got
Starting point is 00:53:44 the best chance ever. I mean, home advantage in major football torments is absolutely massive. Never underestimate home advantage. And I know he hasn't got a lot of credit over his period of time and he's been out of love the American public. But in Portraitino you have a proper world-class
Starting point is 00:54:00 manager and a real world-class manager. A guy who knows how to win things, a guy who's won in the World Cups himself as a player for Argentina. He's been in Champions League finals. And for the first time, you have a team of 11 players or 15 players of half of your squad who were actually based in Europeans' top flight clubs. So you're going to be one of the fittest.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You're going to like the conditions. You're going to get, you know, and as the tournament goes on, the momentum behind the US national team is going to be huge. Realistically, I feel quarterfinals minimum for team. They've got to get to the court. Minimum. And I think, and all you need, them quarterfinals, One bit of luck, one penalty decision, one VAR, a P-K shootout, this goes your favor.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And you know, you never know. It could be England v. America in New York in the finals. Oh! And guess what? You're going home. Going home. I love to hear that for me. That's a huge deal.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. I don't know if you got to see my reaction there while you were giving that take. You have never given me an inch on the United States. For good reason, by the way. It turns out the boys were frauds earlier. They just needed this next generation to come in. I think mature a little bit. It feels like we're a mature team at this point, too,
Starting point is 00:55:14 even though we're younger at this stage. But you're an ex-professional sports player, Pat. You know, I think it's all about the coach. I think, I think, England, I've got a very realistic chance of winning his story. Because I think the upgrade from Garrow Southgate, our manager to Thomas Tuchel is such an upgrade. You only saw what he did yesterday at halftime
Starting point is 00:55:35 and changed that game around. He gave a speech, a motivational speech to which to players, Harry Kane, Jude Bellin. You wouldn't have got that from their reaction was so impressed with him. And I think that the U.S. National Times have a proper coach. I mean, if you, I would take Pochitino as the England manager prior to Tucho. He's that good in my opinion. Nobody can't have them. A.C. Malone can't have them either.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Nope. They got a new gaffer. Good. Good. Ponce is staying. Forever. That needs to happen. And so are you, hopefully, Nigel.
Starting point is 00:56:06 your travels up to Boston. We thank you for joining us and we'll talk to you next week. Thanks very much, travel everyone, guys. All the very best. And go on. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:56:14 USAV England final. New York, baby. U.S. wins the World Cup. Yeah. Come on, baby. Nigel ceiling. Yeah, Nigel.
Starting point is 00:56:23 That would be seen. Hey, so not to just put over the people that we know, Nigel and Gumpy probably the two best footies. Yeah. Handiccappers. I don't want to say on it. Nigel's a corner, right?
Starting point is 00:56:36 I don't know. I don't know if he's a gunner or a gooner. Are you sure, Gunger? I'm 100% sure Nogel is no gooner. If it's English versus USA, they got to move it to Jamestown in Virginia. All right. Just for the good of everything. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:57:21 Sports are the greatest. It's not just me up here. Obviously, I get a chance to chat about sports every day with a great group of guys. Let's go to the Tox table at Boss of Connor and Ty shit right now, right? Yeah, he ate healthy today. And we know how that goes with Ty. When he eats healthy, it just never agrees with his body. I do hope that.
Starting point is 00:57:39 one day he'll make a good decision eating-wise, and it won't punish him. He's just got to eat like shite. That's kind of good. Goes in. I'm supposed to go on. Yeah, clean shot. Nine-year NFL vet, Derrish Jay Butler, one half of the hammer. Dad.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Cowboys, A.P. Tone is here. You know, because, like, my dad, for instance, whenever he was starting to get in shape, you know, he would openly go out of his way to tell you, like, had a salad last night a shit all the night. So I'm trying. It's not. You know, it becomes, like, a reason to not do good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Like, yeah, yesterday I had three red bulls and I had some fried Oreos and chicken tenders and a cassadilla late night. Feel good. Then I also had some ice cream and it was great. And then I wake up and I'm good, you know. Now, granted, people say I have some sort of stomach problem, but I feel good. I feel fine. Hey, had a lettuce last night, had a salad because you guys are all super geniuses and I'm supposed to take care of myself. And I dumped all over myself all night.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It always seems to happen. I don't like that it happens because for Ty, we would like him to try more vegetables more often, but it does feel like it's problematic for this guy's asshole to do that. Yeah, he said right when we went to break, spicy broccoli. It just had, I had to get spicy broccoli today, and now it's just eat me up inside. That's part of, I mean, that's a part of the body, though, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:59 Exactly. The human aspect of this entire thing is pretty crazy. Because Ty's brain tells him he needs to IV red bull in him, you know, and that's just not the best, I guess, for some humans. Had a graveyard up here. He must have just cleaned it out. He had four or five of them up here yesterday after the show, so I don't know. He must have just, he must be turned over a new leaf, but this is how it goes.
Starting point is 00:59:19 We will certainly send somebody in to make sure he didn't fall in here in a matter of moments because this is a little bit alarming how long he's been in there. I heard it. It was violent. I just heard it sound like an explosion. I hope that wasn't tied. Could be tied. Joining us now live from an addict.
Starting point is 00:59:34 We will keep you updated on that particular situation. we have obviously had these types of situations in the past. We do not know the severity of this particular one. If Ty's back in the next five minutes, I think that would be good. If it's longer than five, I think we should send mid in there with a splunking light and a scuba mask to go see what the... There is. There is. Good, good time.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Good guy. That did look, you look like... Yeah, looks light. He looks light. Ah, kind of dragging there a little bit at the end. We're scared to really open it up, I think. Let's not go too different... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 That was a fatal miscalculation. I thought I had time. but, you know, I will inform you guys that I have been reelected as the mayor of Butpest City. Okay. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. Back on the, were you running unopposed or was there someone else?
Starting point is 01:00:20 I was in a last week. I was going to say, I know, yeah, you may have been the incumbent, but. DeBone always as well. Well, yeah. Oh, holy hell. Congrats. You've been in this title before. I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And it's been a while. You've been there before. And it, honestly, I mean, I think I still got, you know, another, another. term in me at some point. Great pants. Yeah, I know. What are you going to do? I haven't had toxic sludge like that in quite some time, but I mean, it, it, well, I'm not going to put that, uh, the, the restaurant out there because I've had it every day this week and it is delicious. Uh, and it's actually healthy, but I think that's part of the, yeah, we're talking about a lot of greens in there, what not.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, of course, but you guys, you guys, you guys know, you guys know, you guys know, scotcheroos. What's that? Scotcheroos. It's like the, um, rice Krispies that, uh, you know, just has like a lot. layer of chocolate over time. It basically looked like a sheet cake. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, nice. I don't think I've ever had a shit like that, and I've had
Starting point is 01:01:14 damn near every single kind there is, you know, I mean, you talk to hot snakes. You name it. We're happy you're back, man. Thank you. Sorry, I really, I really thought he was going to talk about food that he ate. No, no. Spicy broccoli, though. You've got to watch for it. It will get you. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:01:30 is a man who is a... It sounded like mortars. those are moving We're very worried about you. You're very worried about you. You missed the bill.
Starting point is 01:01:43 No, I know. And I thought I actually stood up to come back out. No, no, no. Sit back, sit your ass down. Smart. Listen to the body. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, live from an attic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion,
Starting point is 01:01:59 Super Bowl champion. It's great to see him back. It is. For now. A.J. Hall. We got a baby, hog on. And we thought we lost him. Obviously, he's still good, which is great news, and happy to hear that.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Ladies and gentlemen, every once in a while, we get a chance to be a part of a historic day for folks. AJ, good to see you, by the way. Great to see you. Congrats on Re-election for Ty. We were all pretty proud of him. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know he was running for something. We didn't know that was it again because we had seen him in this title and position before.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And it is entertaining for us, for sure. Yeah. But he's going through it. And we need to remember that as we laugh in here. his face and potentially at his actions. But, you know, AJ, every once in a while, we get a chance to be a part of some magical days for folks. We get a chance to celebrate the hell out of the future generation of sports. We get a chance to let a university know that they are picking up an absolute baller. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for another superstar commitment.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Ladies It's a big day For some big name Locking in the play And some big game For some big game Lacking in the play And some big game
Starting point is 01:03:16 Where you going next Recruiting is like chess Got a 4D If you want to be the best Announce it on the show Where you're gonna go Oh Everybody waiting
Starting point is 01:03:26 They all want to know Ladies and gentlemen Who's going where next? We shall find out A man who is a Jesuit with Tiger down there in Tampa, Florida. Where's the number one, plays outside linebacker, is also on kickoff coverage,
Starting point is 01:03:53 and I think if you were to throw him the ball, he'd be able to score. An absolute stud, six foot two, 220 pounds. Number one, outside linebacker in the country, Caden Henderson. Yay! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:04:10 How are you, Caden? Oh, we can't hear you, can't hear you. Hold on us, Katie. We can't hear you. You look good though. If it means anything, Mom, you look. amazing. There we go. There we go. We got you now. Yes, sir. Thank you for joining us,
Starting point is 01:04:25 Caden and family. We are so appreciative that we get a part of this magical day for you. And Caden, we're watching your highlights. First of all, you on kickoff coverage seems unfair, but I want to let you know. I appreciate you doing that for the team. Just for here. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Let's keep doing that for the rest of this, for the kickers out there. But it feels like you're obvious, your instincts are outrageous, your speed incredible, your power, everything like that. Can you tell us a
Starting point is 01:04:53 little bit about the journey to today? When did you start becoming this force of nature on the football field? And how has the recruiting trail kind of led you to today, Caden? Yeah, that's been great. I got my first offer of January, my first year. I'm sitting here today with 50s soon, so it's really been a blessing. I've been around all over the country. You know, my parents are going to take me all over. So I've seen everywhere, but today I know a home is. So I'm excited for that. Congratulations on getting to your decision. We'll come to that in a matter of moments.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You have your dad, Randy, next to you, your mom, Desiree. Sister, I assume, is that sister? Sister. What's her name? Daniel. Appreciate it, just sister. Okay, hey, okay, that's on me. I don't know what the hell just happened.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I love everything that's going on over there. Congratulations to your parents, Kaden. Congratulations to your family. congratulations to your school. And if you want to let the world know where you're going to be taking your football talent to next, we'd love to hear it, brother. Congrats on all of it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:57 So first of the poor and forth, thank God for giving me here, all the gifts he's giving me. And I know for the future way you guys in score for me. Next, I want to thank my parents and my family, my sister, different porn and as a young man. I really just giving you all the straights that they have today. I want to thank everybody for coming here today. you don't have to take your time and be here. But with that being said, I just want to thank my coach, Coach Palmer,
Starting point is 01:06:21 all the coaches out here that you have afforded to me. But yeah, but yeah, so that being said, for the next year and four years, I'll be taking my talent student, Texas and that University. Oh! Hey, congratulations to the family, to Caden, to Texas A&M, to coach Elko, to the boys down there in College Station. We love it down there.
Starting point is 01:06:44 We absolutely love it down there. Caden, can you tell me why you, pick Texas A&M to be your next home for football. And to be clear, we did not know there. There was a, and I don't think a lot of people knew necessarily where Caden was headed to. Why Texas A&M and what led you to this pick? I think it was the best place for me and my family. I think I have a great relationship with the staff.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Shout out, Darius, join your team. Well, everybody in the staff. I mean, I think it starts up with Elko. It's a great coach. I think he's been something special in Polly Station. You know, Diasse, and I definitely want to be a part of me. I think you can see it from, you know, across all websites. You know, we're number one in a pretty class.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And yeah, definitely something I want to be a part of. I think they're going to, I think Coach Tew with the lineback folks going to pour into me. And it really is how many floors get to the most of the go to the NFL and get first-out out of the pick. Well, to the entire family, obviously, we've got a chance to go down there and see it and experience it. They're going to welcome you in there.
Starting point is 01:07:35 They're going to give you everything you possibly could need to have a great experience. And go take a run at that national championship, Caden. You're the man. Thank you for letting us be a part of this. And congratulations, Caden. Amen. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Hell yeah. All right, I like that setup. You see the balloons there? Perfect. Beautiful. Now, I do believe we're going off the laptop microphone, so I think some of the boys, either coaches or teammates were super jacked up.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Let's go. I think there were some people even making, like, last minute pitches there. I do believe that one had some questions. Big time. I saw a projection from like a day ago to Notre Dame. So, like, when those people make their crystal ball projections, they normally think they know where they're going.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And for us, you know, it's not necessarily, There has been times in a past where a school has reached out to us and said, hey, can you do this for one of our guys? He wants to be part of it. It's like, yeah, no problem. That's happened every once in a while. Agents have reached out. Players have reached out directly and done it. So it's like in this particular one, I think it was a manager or agent or something that reached out. And then all of a sudden it was like, hey, we're ready to do it. No, we're not ready to do it. And then inevitably it was like, we're going to make our decision on this day. Is that cool? It's like, yeah, absolutely all good, man. We're a big fan of the way you operate and play football.
Starting point is 01:08:46 He's a stud. This guy is. 6-2-220. That's going to get up to 2.30, probably, 2.35. Maybe he's going to be an absolute monster on a football field. We're lucky to be a part of it. We're thankful to be a part of it. But I didn't know where he was going, AJ.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I genuinely had no idea where he was headed. I get lost in these clips watching the dude finish. You talk about finishing tackles. It's fun to watch him play. And when you can move in space like this, yeah, there's a reason he's a number one linebacker in the country. Like, just how he moves in space is change the direction, and then how violently he finishes his tackles.
Starting point is 01:09:15 He's going to be fun. to watch in the future. Florida boy out of Tampa. Seems like he's got great moxie. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed that. The number one looks clean, too, on a football field or whatever you're tackling and destroying everybody.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Very clean. That was the first thing I saw as well, how he finishes. AJ always taught when we are boots on the ground with the field pass, AJR. It's one of the first things AJ looks at how guys finish, how physical they are. And that's one of the things that jumps off the tape. His explosiveness is how he finishes. Obviously, Cash's How was their premier pass, Russia there, Texas A&M, so you would expect him to get up there and play earlier.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Five-star like this, going at number one recruit in the country, going in there already at 220. Like you said, he may be 240 by the time that first game comes. I can't wait. I love these commitments. Every time I see it, especially with the set up. Everything of these kids,
Starting point is 01:10:02 their young men, have to deal with and everything that's on their plate. So important to have the right people around them. And I feel like a lot of these guys that come in, they got the right people and systems around them. So I'm just rooting for all of them. I was dope for Caden though. Yeah, college football soon.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, soon. Remember, Shraig's brought it up earlier about the Sorsby decision. He's like, hey, July 10th is the pro-day workout, and then whenever the draft's going to be. And then we've got training camp coming up soon. We're almost there, AJ. 83 days? I know. We're almost.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Can't wait. You know what I thought when I heard the July 10th, Sorsby workout? I thought of all the scouts and assistant coaches that are like, oh, that's like one break of the year. Now I've got to go back and watch this thing. To hell with this kid. Yeah, because I was talking, we were talking yesterday. Who did we talk to you about it yesterday? Pete, Pete.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Pete. Talking Pete Dammell, certainly all 32 teams are going to be real well. represented at this workout. He was a former number of first round overall projection, you know, so some teams are going to sniff around. It's not if somebody will be there. How many people and what people will be there? And because my first question whenever I heard July 10th, to your point was like, how many teams are going to be at this? I mean, because if it's on camera, you know, just like the combine, will people just opt to watch the footage as opposed to being there? Well, then guys are going to want to shake hands, talk to them, kind of meet them
Starting point is 01:11:09 a little bit, get a chance to feel the energy around them and how people are reacting to them. But yeah, I agree with you. People having their off time. And remember, the off time for the NFL is literally like 13 days for something. It's like that is it. Every other time they're under a desk. Under here. They're under here. Some of the guys in scouting departments. Oh, my God. They're going to peel off rugs off the floor to get these guys out from underneath it because that's how long they are in the facility whenever football season happens just so they can hopefully potentially one day become an assistant to an assistant something. That is. That is like the goal of getting in there and that's some of it.
Starting point is 01:11:45 And now they're like, hey, good news. Saw your family? How many days? Had 4th of July, right? 250th birthday? Good news. I need everything on Sorsby by the 8th. And then I need your ass in Carroll High School by the 10th.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Thanks. See ya. I wasn't supposed to be back to like the 15th or 16th. Got good news for you. Maybe the future quarterback of our entire program. I need you to go figure it out. I'm not going to be able to go. I'm obviously out of the country here.
Starting point is 01:12:09 But the entire organization is depending on you, bud. Go ahead and do that. We trust you. I think there's going to be a lot of that. Yeah. I think there's going to be. Regional scouts going there with more pressure on them than they've ever had. Hey, every piece of information is coming through you, kid.
Starting point is 01:12:22 So let's make sure we go ahead and do that. But on the field, people probably already have their projections on what he is, right? Yes. Yeah, because the Pete said it yesterday, like the transfer portal thing happened late for him. There was rumors and speculation that he was going to the league. So they were probably scouting him all the last season with the chance that he was going to the league. But yet now it's probably like, hey, we want to get our hands on him to talk to him and see where he's at mentally. Now the Sorsby judge situation, injunction situation, could potentially be the inflection point that does lead to their being coming some guardrails on college sports as a whole.
Starting point is 01:12:57 The next step has been taken in that entire thing. The Senate's Commerce Committee has voted to pass Protect College Sports Act to the Senate floor, which means the potential of a full vote, which would be a first. There's still significant opposition from Big Ten and SEC, but another notable source. step, but we did hear after the last time this was talking about like last Wednesday or something like that, or two Wednesdays ago, because this has all been expedited fully, but everything in government takes forever, it seems like. And them saying, we just voted to have a vote. Okay. All right. Thank you for doing that. Checks and balances. Let's make sure we go through all the properties. Both parties are behind this. There's a lot of huge names in football that are behind this. There are some guardrails, but it is not perfect in anybody's eyes. But that's kind of legislation. Is anybody ever going to get everything that they want? Petiti and Sanky came out in a joint. statement right before this last one and we're like, we hate it. And we're like, come on, come on, come on. What are we doing? Ted Cruz wasn't met with
Starting point is 01:13:49 them. Allegedly there was some advancement in that particular thing. So hopefully we're able to figure it out. And maybe the Soresby situation is the one that brings everybody together saying we can't have this, AJ. Can't have this. Yeah. What happens? I would hope so. You would hope something comes from this. Because we know, like, college football is going with something. Like, they're going to have to come up with some kind of guard rails as we continue to hear that buzzword being thrown around. But what does it look like and when does it happen? Because, like, as you said, Things are very slow moving when it comes to all these people getting involved,
Starting point is 01:14:15 but at least they're trying, I guess. Didn't it feel, no, not going to say it. What's that? I'll say it for it. What was it? Okay, so nobody. Oh, yeah, I guess it would be possible what you are saying, Pat, that this could be. Say it.
Starting point is 01:14:42 You said you were going to say. This could be somewhat of a work. Sorry, guys. Yeah, that was rest of my ear. Not to you guys. Yeah. I think this could be somewhat of a work, you know, the Storesby situation, Pat. I'm not exactly sure I blacked out.
Starting point is 01:14:53 timing a bit or oh jeez age you said you would say what I was going to say I trusted you I dropped you a seed of what I'm saying is it's like
Starting point is 01:15:00 A work as in how for like a non-wrestling person explain what that means No it just feels like the timing of the Sorsby thing while we're doing a vote for all of this it just feels like it could
Starting point is 01:15:10 it feels like this would be in a wrestling timing situation like the biggest baddest thing to happen to sport happening in the middle of thing being passed through government
Starting point is 01:15:20 at the same exact time it's like the timing of the Sorsby situation coming, not that they work. I'm not saying it was a work, but the timing of it being the way it is with the voting happening at the same time. So them being able to say like,
Starting point is 01:15:34 huh? This is the worst. It's like almost like that, that's a crazy coincidence. What are you said, AJ? Who's in? Yeah, what are you saying? It was a work. I said people could appear that it's way. You're saying it is a work. Are you trying to say this whole thing's a simulation? Like this
Starting point is 01:15:49 goes above everything? All right. Okay. Is that what you're trying to say? You will never get to say what I think about saying. Okay? Never. I heard Messi say there are no coincidences. In a pump-up speech, he had to the boys a little bit ago. I'll tell you what, Messi can get me pumped up for anything.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Yeah. Especially when that left foot is as lethal as it. Is he speaking English or Portuguese? Yeah, did you read him and say that? It was he was talking to the boys in Portuguese, whatever he speaks, and it was, they translated and put the words up on the screen for dumb English people like me that can read. I don't think we're dumb because we speak English. for a long time most people spoke English
Starting point is 01:16:25 and now it seems like less people are starting to do it, doesn't it? Well, I think a lot of people speak English, they just speak a bunch other languages too. I think we're kind of the only people who just speaking. Yeah, but we, different than everybody else, we speak a lot of languages in English. That's right. Yeah, I'm on day
Starting point is 01:16:41 340 of Duolingo. How's that going? Don't test me. Don't test me. I don't want to disrespect Spanish? You don't want to disrespect the language? What are you talking about? Why are you learning it? You're going to disrespect it. I got to, I got to a bad feeling. I got a funny feeling. Me and Zito, we talk in strictly. So is
Starting point is 01:16:57 Espen. Yeah, but we know Zito can't do that because Zito's only one way in, he can't go out. That's a work. I believe that probably is a word. Yeah, you got to watch multiple language speakers. A lot of times it's a word. Chohei, for example. Cho Hay doesn't speak a lick of English. No, that has never been said. That has never
Starting point is 01:17:13 ever been said. Kirschar, she told us. Let's go to World Cup conversation as we talk about the depth of this particular program. I do like a little hubbub there was about the coverage of the World Cup, though. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:17:28 I do like the hubbub. A little inside baseball. There has been a little bit of that. A lot of people learning about stuff, you know, and getting sued and season these and all these things that happen in this particular world. I mean, we've got to worry about that every single day. Yeah. Actually, actually every single day.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And the Fox people in our company's history, they've sent us cease and desist on our own content that they have run on their shows. so they would rip our stuff without consent they would just put it on their shows react to it then they would put it up on their YouTube or whatever and then they would hit us our original show with a C&D so Fox is very I mean they are very
Starting point is 01:18:08 hey yeah it's our we they are very which by the way you run your business however the hell you want to run your business that's kind of how it is but with the World Cup stuff it's like it'd be really cool to be able to show these highlights yeah they suck actually when it comes to this entire thing just because of all the great that we love about the World Cup, and it's like, hey, it'd be cool to show everybody.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's a Showcase that Team USA. It feels like that is bigger than just a Wright's deal. You know, we are a sport, but we're not a news show. But I think we should be. What do we got to put a tie on? How do we go into that? We were the news show during COVID. Definitely, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Why does that not translate over the last six years? We'll dive into the Wright's deal a little bit more before the next World Cup, hopefully. Is it up, actually, the next World Cup? They don't play around those highlights. No, they do not. No, I mean, they were taking our footage. on their thing and sue and us. I mean, so there is a lot of money invested in these things.
Starting point is 01:18:55 We understand it. But I don't like the immediate, like, you guys should be doing more. It's like, we'd love to. You know what? Ken Burns only created one effect. Can you give me another one that we can fill the time with and make it look like there? Maybe a burst, maybe give us a bursting option.
Starting point is 01:19:10 But if we put too many photos too closely, is it just a video that's being stopped. And then are they going to get us to the rights? You know, there's all this type. Live photo, perhaps. Heads will roll. Yep. Heads will roll.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Which guy do you know? I don't think anybody he's talking about. that at all. But I appreciate the fact that you know that. We have been watching every single minute of soccer that we possibly could. Nobody expected that of us. I think even us. I didn't expect that. But we have decided this program should put together a after a first round of games, a start in 11. Yes. Gumpy kind of took this to task. Gumpy has put together his first game World Cup starting 11. And to the players that make this team, congratulations. This is the biggest earn of your life. Gumpy, can you be able to be?
Starting point is 01:19:53 Please go through the crew. I see a 10 million follower Instagram guy in goal. I know he's living his best life. Yeah, we got a little bit of an offensive formation here, 3-3-4. We couldn't leave any of these strikers out. Balagan with two, Kane with two, Holland with two, and Boppy with two. You go to the middle of the park. Bellingham took that game over for England in the second half.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Messy de goat with a hatty. Just had two for New Zealand, kind of a shocker. He's a dog as well. Richard's Virgil and Romero at the back. I mean, that's all you need is three back there with those guys. So I like the starting 11. And congratulations to Messi on earning this title. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I think this is one that he did not have in his bag. AJ, when you look at that starting 11, what's your first thought? Well, first of all, that 335 configuration, I love that. You know, it's very offensive situation, as they say. But I understand, you know, I mentioned Ronaldo a bunch. Did he get slighted here? I understand he hasn't scored in what? Ten World Cup games, 10 international?
Starting point is 01:20:48 The other team's goalie had more touches than him in the game, dude. A. J. They're quadruple team in him probably. I understand he hasn't scored in 10 World Cup games, but I was wondering if he could be on this team. You wanted to bury Renato? Was that to put over Lumez? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I'm genuinely asking questions what score. Because it seems so difficult to even get a shot on goal in this whole situation, let alone score. So when those games continue to stack up, let's set them up. Let's give them an easy one somehow. Hey, sogs are a big deal. Yeah, sogs are a big deal.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Now, on that note, that's why this starting 11 is so hard to crack. Yeah. You're talking about all the stars, though, showing up. I mean, basically all the stars scored. Except for the guy you're mentioning there. But also the style of game. I mean, this is Golden State Warrior. Soccer is buzzing, right?
Starting point is 01:21:35 I mean, they are attacking. There is a lot of attacking going on as opposed to, like, sitting back looking for zero, zero. Like these, it looks like teams are trying to score. I think that might be why people are also interested in this particular brand of soccer. Definitely Team USA. Team USA, we got two guys on starting 11. That would have never happened before. No.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Now, granted, it should have been 11. I was going to say you could argue that Reamer got absolutely hosed. We got McKinney on the bench there. Is Ponch the coach? Duh. Ponch is the gaffer. I didn't do a gaffer. Well, we know that.
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Starting point is 01:24:44 D. But it's been fun to watch people who hate soccer, AJ included. AJ sending texts about Messi and goals getting called back and what's off sides. People are falling in love with it right now, and I think it's because America's good. Do you think this is coming out of the Olympics? Do you think it's the environments? What do you think it is? I don't know. I started watching soccer more closely this past season in Arsenal, so like getting to the World Cup,
Starting point is 01:25:05 actually knowing some of these guys, some of the names, it's better to watch. But do we talk about it all the time with any sport? Whenever the stars show up, but I don't know how common this is for the World Cup. Obviously, we know Lou Messi won the last one. But with the stars showing up, like the average, the casual fans, the names that they know showing up, it's like, oh, let me tune in. So these guys, I mean, I'm up at 1 o'clock watching teams and countries. I would have never expected to play.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Watch any sport, let alone soccer. And Ghana. Ghana was needed to watch. What a late goal. Seeds. Late goal. A late flight last night. Columbians on a flight.
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Starting point is 01:26:15 It's going to be fun. Yes. It's not going to be something that ruins lives. And hopefully that is the Sorsby story whenever he moves on to wherever he goes. And he can kind of become one of the faces of that whole thing as we enter a society that's definitely going to do that. Joe Burrow speaking about his Cincinnati Bengals team, you know, whenever they spend the amount of money that they spend on the offensive weapons, you wonder, are the Cincinnati Bengals ever going to be able to win? And how come they're not giving Trey Hendrickson of money?
Starting point is 01:26:39 The guy gets the most sacks in the NFL. What the hell is the deal over there? These people don't seemingly care about ball at all. Well, Tray's at the Ravens because they didn't want Max Crosby for some reason. And sexy Dexie now has come over to the Cincinnati Bengals. And then he started looking at the offensive superstars everywhere. Joe Burroughs says, you know what this kind of reminds me of?
Starting point is 01:26:57 2019 LSU. Oh, really? I hope so. I hope so. I think that's great. You know, put pressure on guys. I love it. I thrive in it.
Starting point is 01:27:10 We'll find out who else does. I know that we have the kind of people. people that want to be in that spot. I want everybody talking about the Bengals. I want everybody talking about what I'm saying in my press conferences. You go back and watch what I said before 2019 season at LSU. I feel very similarly about this team.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I'm so excited to get started and get moving. I wish we would ramp this right into training camp, so we can continue to improve. Because I feel like, you know, there's so much greatness that we're going to be able to achieve this year. I'm just excited to get going. Joe doesn't want a vacation. Joe wants to keep going.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Let's talk about that 2019 LSU team, shall we? Obviously champs craziness. Three top five picks. Okay, there's only five picks in the top five. Yeah. Okay, three of them. Three of them. Good math, right there.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Yeah, just so we can point this out. Top five, there's only five of them. Three of them. LSU. Seven first round picks. Very good. Okay. 10 day two picks, 34 total players' trap. Who are they? We got those as well, obviously. 2019 LSU
Starting point is 01:28:24 superstars. Joe Burrow, Derek Stingley, Jamar Chase, Chazon, Justin Jefferson, Patrick Clean, Clyde Edwards, Elair, and more. There's 34 total on that team that was there. You know, you go back to, like, the FSU Miami game. I think people always talk about the amount of NFL guys and
Starting point is 01:28:40 the amount of talent on that field. That LSU team now, looking back on it, it's like, they were an NFL roster. And they would go on to take over and become something special. I like that Joe's kind of reminiscent about those days because those were great days for LSU. Yeah, that team, I mean, that go down in history.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Whenever you have arguments or debates of greatest college football teams ever, that would definitely be in the argument. Oh, one, hurricanes, teams like that. And I love this. If I'm a teammate of Joe Burrow, if I'm a fan of his, of the Bengals, like I love hearing your quarterback put it out there, put those expectations
Starting point is 01:29:12 out there, having that mindset. But I mean, the Bengals being compared to this. I mean, that's, I mean, I was one of the greatest teams of all the time. Maybe he's seeing something we're not. And like I said, you're not there. If I was, the only similarities I see is obviously Joe Brill, Chase, and then being a tiger. Yeah, the same. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:32 That's a lot of. That's a lot of things. That's as far as those comparisons go. But if I'm in the foxhole with them, I love this from my quarterback. And he's going to show up. And he's shown up. And he's shown up since he stepped foot in the league. so it's just going to be about what has always been about.
Starting point is 01:29:45 How do they build that team around them? How does that defense show? We know the offense is going to put up numbers, great two-headed monster wide receiver, how can they protect them? Those are the same questions with the Bengals kind of every year since that Super Bowl run. AJ, your thoughts on Joseph Burrow being a hell of a leader
Starting point is 01:30:00 over there for the Bengals and the pressure being on him to win in Cincinnati since the day he got drafted. That this is it. Hey, bring a championship to Ohio, Bub. That's what you're supposed to do. Absolutely. It seemed like the perfect situation when he gets drafted by the Bengals being a hundred,
Starting point is 01:30:13 kid from Athens not too far from there and comes in and has so much success early. I feel like the pressure has been on and from the jump and it continues to grow now because of how great he played early in his career. So I think it's awesome. He says he thrives in those circumstances and I think that trickles down to the rest of the team. Talk about greatness, ladies and gentlemen joining us now is DeGote, a man who can be on a microphone in any situation, any setting, and make it great. I think if there was a surgery happening and it was to be performed live on television,
Starting point is 01:30:39 he would be the only one that would make it seem like it's enjoyable watch. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who calls basketball, the Olympics, football, and even golf happening today. The U.S. Open, third major of the year for the golf world. Joining us, a man who helped me whenever we are heading into the finals, All Access, Altcast, legend, Mike Tariko. Yeah, boy. Hello, boys. How are we doing? Hey, you are, I think you were sitting on there and listen to the Joe Burrough situation with the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Obviously, the Bengals and the AFC don't get a lot of Super Bowl chatter, but it sounds like Joe would like to change that much. I love that out of the Ohio boy. One of my favorite production meetings, one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch and listen to. I love Burrow. 2019 LSU team that you guys put up all those players, you know, who wasn't on the list, the guy who was their passing game coordinator.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Really got them spread offense, Joe Brady. Exactly. Now the Bills coach. So part of this whole deal with that unbelievable list of talent, I love Burrow throwing it out there. You know, if the Rams are going to be this team that is, all in like they were for Super Bowl 56. They played the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:31:48 So why not? Go back at it. And maybe we'll see Joe Burrow against Joe Brady's team for the AFC championship this year. Who knows? But I like the fact that they did address some stuff on the defense. Their offense, can they stay healthy? Can they protect Joe? If they can, they can be in every game.
Starting point is 01:32:05 And I know my partner, Collinsworth, would love to see the Bengals play meaningful football late in the season. We were there when they beat the Raiders to break their playoff drought. It had been a long time. And man, the jungle was rocking. That's a great football city. As you guys know, AJ, you know with the whole Ohio thing. So that'd be fun to see.
Starting point is 01:32:22 And he's the kind of guy who I think the league loves to watch. People who are fans of other teams love to watch Joe Burrow, go back there and sling it. Maybe it's against your team and you don't. But if you respect good football and a quarterback playing the game, carrying his team and being the frontman for it and being the pilot of the big plane that is a franchise, Burroughs that kind of guy. I love the promo you just got for Joe Burr, and obviously the AFC is stacked.
Starting point is 01:32:49 So if they are able to get back to the mountaintop and get to the Super Bowl, I think the world will enjoy how Joe Burrow handles the big moment. He's always played well in the biggest stages. He is a guy that is ready for the moment. Will we ever get back to the biggest stage? We shall see the way it ended, do you recall, Aaron Donald.
Starting point is 01:33:06 If Aaron Donald doesn't break that game, Jamar Chase maybe scores touchdown there, Bengals win Super Bowl. Aaron Donald might be coming back. He might be coming back. Have you heard that? Mike, have you heard that? I've heard it.
Starting point is 01:33:18 How crazy is what the Rams have done this offseason, right? And, you know, what did they do in the draft? They take Ty Simpson, right? So people are going, wait a minute, what's going on here? What do you use draft capital for to get a quarterback of the future? So if they believe they have their quarterback of the future and they've got their quarterback of the present, then why not blank those picks and go, right? And so they get all in and do it.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And now Miles Garrett is there. And if Aaron Donald just decides to show up for, you know, 10, 12 games or, you know, maybe if, who knows? Even without, remember, their defensive front was stacked with all these young guys. Obviously, the trade takes one piece of that away. But add Miles Garrett to the front four guys that they have in the rotation they have up front. And that's a dangerous defense. So Stafford, get him a lead. Quarterback, pass rush, shuts down games in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I can't tell you, if I heard it once, I heard it a thousand times in John Gruden, fourth quarter pass rush wins games, right, AJ? Over and over and over. Pressure the quarterback in the fourth quarter. When you have a lead, you win games. They're going to do it with Miles Garrett, because if he's getting two and those other guys are free, Aaron Donald or not, Rams are going to be a problem, man.
Starting point is 01:34:32 That's such a great acquisition. Yeah, we agree. We got a chance to chat with Sneed afterwards, and it's not, he don't have the mentality of blank those picks. And thanks for saying that instead of fricked those picks, because blank sounds much better than Frick. Thank you. Because you're an adult.
Starting point is 01:34:44 You know that. You understand that as a human in there. But he is talking, all his draft picks, he's hit. You know, like he is a very good drafter as well. It's like he is also an incredible drafter. He's like super, I think he, I think he rolls a dice poker player. He will move a lot. But with what he has, he also hits.
Starting point is 01:35:01 They're doing a great job over there in not only going for it right now, but also building for the future. And if Stafford plays forever, which he might, because that amoral chamber. Yeah. I mean, who knows what happens. Okay, let's pivot away from. the NFL and it's amazing that you obviously have that all understood. Right now, let's talk about the major.
Starting point is 01:35:15 U.S. Open. It's a huge deal. The Shinnock course early beat the hell out of Harry Hugs. Higgs. Higgs. Jeez. What's this guy's name? Harry Higgs. He needs a hug. Well, I think everybody's going to, right?
Starting point is 01:35:29 Is that kind of your big takeaway to what the U.S. Open normally is and what we should expect out of the Shinnock course? They're talking about the wind being like, I don't want to bring up biblical, but I mean, with the fog this morning with what it could be, is that what we should expect all weekend? How do you see it going down? Well, usually the U.S. Open is defined by lightning fast greens. And because of the severity of the greens, the history of what happened here the last time the open was here in 2018 and past U.S. opens here, they slowed the green speeds down
Starting point is 01:35:58 significantly because they want to be able to be one playable in the big wind that's forecast, let's see, it's 140 right now, it's forecast the next couple hours to be 25 mile an hour away. wins with higher gusts. If it gets too windy, you're going to have to stop play because the ball will not stay after you place it and mark it on the green. So there's the concern of that. So that, on top of what's happened in the past, trying to get through these first two rounds, the conditions right now are hard. They may be harder later this afternoon. But the rest of the week looks like it'll be very playable, which means this golf course will show its teeth. The greens will get a little faster in all likelihood. And PARs a great score.
Starting point is 01:36:41 The U.S. Open, you throw out the mindset of almost every other week on tour. PARs a good score. You shoot 70, 71, 72 today. That's great. You're in the mix. If you look at the leaderboard already, for the most part, there's not like, oh, here's the surprise guy who's 19 or 22 qualified, playing in his first U.S. Open. It's kind of big names on the board just through the morning wave of guys. And that shows you how hard this golf course is already.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And it's going to be one of those weeks where I think you're not going to have the guy from out of nowhere, maybe one, but not many who are going to be in the mix come Saturday and Sunday. Can't wait to watch it all? Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Mike, I guess who are some of the guys you're possibly looking at the type of style of play? I guess that could win here. You said par is a good score. I'm sure that gets boring for these guys over and over again, continue and leaving themselves in the right spot, and then just hopefully two putting for par. Who do you think has the mindset to go in and play four great days and find a way to win it?
Starting point is 01:37:36 AJ, that's why guys like Mac Orhey just showed and Sheffler and Sam. Burns, the guys who are in the top 10 in the world, guys who won major championships, like a Brooks Kepka, right, who has back-to-back U.S. opens. You're going to, look, you never know, you can't play defense in golf. So you have no idea if a guy is going to have a bad
Starting point is 01:37:55 week or if a guy's going to have a great week out of nowhere. But by and large, the guys who can do three things. One, great ball strikers. Because if it's windy, you've got to pick a line and it's got to stay on that line because it's going to get blown. So you've got to say, okay, I've got to start it over here.
Starting point is 01:38:10 that over here. That's fine. You got to hit it on that line. You got to hit it solid so it doesn't flutter and get blown all around. Great ball strikers. Two, terrific putters. These are hard greens when the winds are down, which we'll see later on in the week and they're really fast. There's always a little
Starting point is 01:38:26 nuanced break. And three, scramblers. Guys who miss greens and can get up and down out of nowhere. And that's Sheffler, that's Rory. The guys with a terrific short game. So the guys who have these complete games, Ludwig Goldberg you're seeing there. He's gotten off to a good start. I think he's still tied for the league.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Yeah, he is 200 par. So those are the guys who are going to hang around this week. It is not a week for somebody who has a flaw in their game where they can hit it so far that it's not going to matter and they'll be able just to bang it up on the green and get hot with the putter. Every part of your game gets exposed here. That's why those big names that we talk about all the time,
Starting point is 01:39:03 at a U.S. Open on a really tough course, usually those are the guys who are around it. The U.S. Open likes to say that they find the best golf in the world, right? That's kind of their thing. They try to make the courses as hard as possible. We would like to find the golfer who can hit every shot that they need to. And if they miss, they're going to be punished. You miss that fairway.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I mean, it is, you're punished. I mean, it is a true ass beating out there with that fescue or whatever that is. Yeah. It is. I'll be excited to hear how that is kind of, uh, because technically that could take over the entire tournament, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:34 So you see, you see that shot there with the ball disappear in the rough? That's usually what we talk about at U.S. opens, right? The rough is this thick. You can't hack it out. You can't get it out. The USGA did something different this year. I'm going to give you a couple of things on that first. So the rule is you're allowed 14 clubs in your bag.
Starting point is 01:39:51 And the USGA's mantra is they want you to use all 14 clubs. They want you to do long irons, short irons, drivers, four woods, five woods, whatever you have in your bag, mini-drivers, 56-degree wedges. They want you to use all 14 clubs in your bag and get them dirty, right? So you're done with the round, the guy who you're paying five bucks to clean your clubs would have to wipe off every club. Get them all dirty. But they say they want the 15th club to get dirty. And that's your mind. And don't go there.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Not a dirty mind. But they want you to use your mind. Yeah, we get it. We get it. Yeah. Try to get in the hole. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Long shafts. Yeah. There you go. Stroking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We get it.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Yeah. We understand. Can I be any stupid? I ran right into that. Yeah. Dumping ball. up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:40 That's great. Yeah. They want you to use your head. They want to make sure that you think constantly around the golf course and you're plotting. Stay below the hole. I can't be here. I can't be here. They want you to do that.
Starting point is 01:40:52 And then the other thing that used to be a big USGA field to a championship like this is they want a target score. Like let's say even par win. Well, in chasing that, sometimes they messed with a setup too much of a golf course. So what they've done now is their mind. contra this week is let's let Chinnecock, one of the great golf courses, one of the five original clubs that made up the USGA back when it started in the 1890s, let Chinook be Shinnecock. This golf course is hard enough when member play is out here and it's windy out on the edge
Starting point is 01:41:24 of Long Island. So the greens are up at high speed. We don't need to shrink the fairways, which they used to do at these US opens at Shinnecock. So the fairways are playing at an average width of 48 yards. That's pretty generous, but that's because the golf course can be so hard with the wins. So you play it what it normally plays like. And if five under wins or seven under wins, that's great. I don't think that's happening. I think the winning score, you'd sign
Starting point is 01:41:48 for a couple under par right now for the week and be really happy. But I think they have finally figured out, let's not try to manufacture, let's just let this great golf course be this great golf course. I like their approach. Can you dial it in perfectly? We don't know. But I think they've got a really good shot to do it this year. Thank you for
Starting point is 01:42:04 all that information from inside the clubhouse literally and figuratively. We appreciate 48 yards as the average width of the fairway. Remember, football field, 53 and a third. Yep. So just to give a little bit of perspective there, about two and a half yards off each side, and you have a football field fairway.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I'll tell you, I can hit that. Easy. You can't hit a football field? That's crazy. You know, you talked about the scramblers, though. There's been a guy that's been scrambling a lot, but he's the number one golfer in the world. Go ahead, Tom.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Yeah, Mike, it's so I'm going to give you these stats and to be crazy what I'm going to say after it. So Scotty's played, Scottie Shepler's played in 12 tournaments this year. He's got seven top fives, 10, top 15, means 12 top 25s. He has not finished outside the top 25 all year. He had a stint where it was three top two or three second place finishes in a row. Like if you watch golf all the time and you watch Scotty, it doesn't feel like he's been Scotty this year, even with all the everything that I just said. It feels like on Sundays he comes back and gets those top fives and top two finishes or whatever. He's plus three right now. What have you heard around the course and around the U.S. Open this week about Scott?
Starting point is 01:43:08 and how he feels about his game? Well, first things first, he's the biggest story this week because he's trying to complete the career grand slam, which Rory did at the Masters last year. He turns 30 on Sunday. So it'll be amazing to have him complete the career grand slam on the day he turns 30 on Father's Day, Father of 2 and all that stuff. So all that's out there.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Scotty has spoiled us the last few years, winning so often, winning so many times, including the big tournaments, including major championships. If you look at his numbers and you did a deep dive there, Tony, if you look even at some other numbers, his putting is actually better this year. And that's the stat that we would say, hey, if Scottie's putting numbers were just a little bit better,
Starting point is 01:43:49 he'd have more wins. They've been better this year. It's actually been his iron play, not being as close in proximity to the hole as it has been other years. And this is a week where if you are a little bit off, it can become a lot off real quickly because the greens, if the greens are large and they are here, the only place you can put a whole location on those greens is about half the size of it.
Starting point is 01:44:12 So if they average 8,800 square feet, maybe 40% of that, you can't put a flag because it's a slope that'll take it away, away, away. That means Scotty Schaeffler has to be good at what he's always been good at, but not as good at this year. And that's accuracy with his irons. So that's the thing to watch with him. He's been on and off a little bit today, but this is a really windy day. let's survive. This is like you're on the road, college football, crazy atmosphere. Let's survive the first quarter. Let's get settled in. And now let's play. So today is let's just like, let's get to the first quarter, deep breath. Let's get to the first hydration break and move on.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Okay. On that note, soccer's becoming quarters, which I don't know if the old school soccer people. But golf, we can't wait for your coverage. Shout to NBC, by the way, continuing to crush everything. And we appreciate the fact that NBC, Let's show some highlights. Yeah. So thank you. Thank you so much. Welcome. Welcome. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You have you speaking for them. Welcome. Yeah, absolutely. If you could bless us, no, we do appreciate the hell out of NBC's coverage and what you guys do for sport. We can't wait to follow along with this particular major. Now, let's pivot to another event that is happening in a massive way. And we've all kind of caught the fever. And you just mentioned it.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Soccer's changing in America. It might be changing as a whole with the quarters, but it doesn't seem like there's as much flopping and rolling around, you know, this year as it was in a past. because from my understanding, flopping was a sign of you being soft. Okay, that was kind of always my understanding. Even as a punter, I hated it. I didn't like it. You know, had some people tell me like, hey,
Starting point is 01:45:44 you sent something you need to go down. It's like, I'm not on, I don't want to be on film doing it. Did you do it? Did you draw 15-yarder? No, I did draw one, yes. And never? I never flopped, though. Never flopped.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I got flipped multiple times. Three times I got flipped, actually, because we kind of went in there. Two of them, I got a penalty on it. But nonetheless, flopping, And then I talk to the soccer guys and they're like, hey, the flopping and the rolling around that like gives everybody like a chance of like, like breathe for a second. So the guy who kind of gets fouled is on the ground. He's doing a service for basically the entire field.
Starting point is 01:46:16 That's why there's the dramatics that come running out with the spray. Guys are getting in water. It's like it also feels like a break for everybody as they've been running forever. So the hydration breaks might stop that, which is good for sports. But also our team is great. Ty has a question for you about all of it. Yeah, Mike, World Cup fever has taken over the. entire office, the entire country. You could argue the world right now. And forgive me if you have done
Starting point is 01:46:38 this in the past. But with everything that's going on with the World Cup, have you thought like, you know what? Hey, man, I'd love to dip my toes in that. And maybe next time the World Cup comes around, I'd like to be in that booth, commentating, you know, some of those games. Like, is that something that you've considered? I mean, you've done everything else. I feel like that would be just another notch in your belt. And have you been enjoying the World Cup thus far? But one, I love it. I've pretty much seen almost every match that I've been not on the air for, not traveling, because I love World Cup soccer.
Starting point is 01:47:10 So, Ty, I did two of them. I got to host 2010 and 2014. 2010 was in South Africa. 2014 was in Brazil. And I would say, of my 25 years at ESPN, those two events are two of the proudest events that I had the chance to be a part of. Because I really do think it helped set a ball. and introduce the World Cup to the American soccer audience at a very different level.
Starting point is 01:47:37 And some of the stuff that Fox is doing right now, international commentators, was our group in 2010, 2014, Amy Rosenfeld, Jed Drake, those are the production folks who were behind a lot of what we did. Rob Lemley also. We set a high bar for the coverage of soccer, and it had nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I was just on the air. But that group, it was one of my greatest memories to be in South Africa and East Africa play to see the U.S. play in person and travel around as being one of those sets inside the stadium, to be in a World Cup final in person, to host the World Cup final in 2014, to see the streets of Brazil go completely empty, I mean, completely empty in Rio de Janeiro at 4 o'clock in the afternoon when Brazil was playing. When the national team played, there was a subway sandwich shop downstairs from where we were doing our host set on Copacabana Beach,
Starting point is 01:48:29 on the edge of Copacabana Beach. And they would put up a sign if it was a 4 o'clock local start that we close at 3. And that was on the sign of almost every business in Rio in all of Brazil. The country shuts down. And that's what happens around the world. I'm so glad I got to experience that. My son played travel soccer at a high level. I was around it.
Starting point is 01:48:50 So I love the sport. I love what the World Cup is about. And I think what's really cool is now not only parents, but a lot of the kids whose first sport was soccer, three-year-olds running around a little pack around the ball and traveling around. That's the first sport for almost every American kid now. They play a little bit longer. They know the game.
Starting point is 01:49:13 They love what the game is about. And now those people are watching soccer. So I think we've got a whole nation of soccer fans who are coming around to this. And like you said, the U.S. team, that was so fun last Friday to watch that first half. That was great. and what they'll do tomorrow afternoon, you know, if they can beat Australia, get the three points, pretty much cinch up the group. That would be so great for this World Cup in North America and in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:49:37 So good for Team USA, good for Pontchitino for playing a style that's a front foot, go get them, attack, let your talented players go. Good for Polisic for being the guy who's the face of and then coming out and having such an impact on the first half of that match. That was so fun to watch on Friday, and hopefully they can repeat that again, on Friday against Australia. The soccer routes from Australia have been good over time, and they were really good in their first match. So that's going to be fun to
Starting point is 01:50:05 watch on Friday, and hopefully it'll continue on for another couple of weeks. But it's great to see, here's the one thing that's also cool. A lot of the international travelers who are coming over and putting their stuff on social media, which is fun, how they're saying how much they love all these stadiums in the U.S. And for those of us who've gone to other
Starting point is 01:50:21 outdoor stadiums around the world, World Cup or Olympics, like, our stadiums are so great in America. We are spoiled luxury boxes even just the concession stands the areas I said we are so spoil our stadiums are even a bad stadium and MetLife
Starting point is 01:50:37 is not the greatest stadium New York, New Jersey stadiums. I'm sorry I'm not a rights holder. Exactly. You're going to get your ass soon. Hey, that was NBC. See you. That was NBC. Get Greg, get Cordella, get Molly, get them all. That was him. He said that. Not me.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Please. I'd like to watch. As I was saying, the New York New Jersey Stadium. It might not be the nicest stadium we have in America compared to Dallas to Jerry World, but it's so nice compared to so many of the other stadiums around the world. And I'm loving that international fans are coming over and saying, man, you guys do sports right here in the U.S. So cool time, cool experience. I hope the next three weeks are great for the sport, for Fox, for everybody. It's really cool.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Yeah, ratings up and to the right for all sports, which is spectacular. Obviously, you were riding that wave with NBC with every different sport that you guys are covering. It's, sports is having quite a little run right now, as it should. And I think it's also uniting, you know, a lot of these videos that are coming. It feels like the world is coming together more so than ever before because of sport and because of the World Cup. So we're obviously honored that we're going to win it. Yeah. It is so cool.
Starting point is 01:51:41 It's so cool that we're going to win that thing, you know, because staying on top of the unity is good. Yeah, you know, that is. And the finals are at, the finals are at MetLife, right? New York, New Jersey. Don't do that on my show. What are you trying to do to us? We got 15 employees here. We got kids.
Starting point is 01:51:57 That one was on purpose. That one was on purpose. Trying to get us. Trying to get us. That's unbelievable. Obviously, super genius out there. We have one minute left on ESPN, but we will remain live digitally. We're talking to Mike Tarrico, absolute goat right now.
Starting point is 01:52:13 We can't let you go because obviously this past year we got a chance to watch you flex your basketball muscle again. You helped me out immensely with that brief call. Not brief. There's like 25 minutes in the middle of your vacation, brief moment out of your vacation to talk. to me, I'm so thankful for. But the NBA playoffs was spectacular. I mean, I loved every moment of it. Before the boys ask you about their NICS questions, which they certainly will have, can you give a brief rundown of the NBA run that you had in the playoffs that you saw for them in 30 seconds, please, out of Syracuse University? 30 seconds. I thought the West Finals were terrific,
Starting point is 01:52:45 and I think those two teams took a lot out of each other. I think the Spurs were good enough to win the NBA championship. They just weren't experienced enough. And you saw that. I mean, what they have leads in the last three minutes of every game and learning how to close at each step it gets harder to execute do what you want and close and i think we saw that all the way through and the finals the new york experience got it done and that's why they had a parade at city hall today and the spurs time i think will come is that 28 seconds no it was closed he probably couldn't see the clock when vacation stopped when vacation end when did vacation end recently uh last week when i got here on sunday monday sorry so they're saying russ versus rest
Starting point is 01:53:24 type situation. That was a 33 second, 30 second. That's what they're saying. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's like making a bogey. I got to bounce back. Hey, bars are good, though.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Hey, listen, you were close. I think you did end a sentence at that exact time that could have been out, but you did continue. Nonetheless, we're still live digitally. And you talked about the Spurs not being ready for the moment. It felt like the other team certainly was. Go ahead, Dee Butt. Yeah, 53 years.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Obviously, it's been a long, long. time since the Knicks have won a title. I know you're a New York guy. Not sure if you are a or grew up a Knicks fan, but where does this rank? I mean, as objectively as you can be amongst the drought-breaking titles, you know, or like Cleveland, LeBron, going back to Cleveland when I was in college, I didn't know how big of a deal that was, but being up in New England, that was huge for Cubs. Where does this rank amongst those kind of drought-breaking titles? So I grew up in New Yorker, and the Knicks of the Rangers were really the teams that I rooted for growing up as a kid.
Starting point is 01:54:24 And the Rangers snapped a 54-year drought when Mark Messia and those guys won the cup in 1994. I even said during one of our Knicks games this year that the Knicks drought is one year shy of the Rangers' drought. And to see the Knicks do it, I'm so happy for the New York fans. I saw a whole bunch of family in New York. It was great to see the city galvanized and to see the scenes of the parade today were really cool.
Starting point is 01:54:48 You know, New York and basketball is different because a lot of New York, York City, you don't have room for big fields and big practice areas. You got the concrete. And so many kids in New York grew up concrete, rim, fence, playground, and you go play basketball. And that's why it's the city's game. And from Rucker Park, 4th Street, all that, basketball just always connected in New York for some reason, style of play, nicks, all that. And that's why I think you saw the city turn out in these numbers. And no knock to the nets, but in New York your Yankees are Mets. The percentages are up there.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Your Jets are giants. You're Nicks and then there's the Nets. You're Rangers and then there's the Islanders and the Devils. I'm not knocking them, it's just a fact. So this was almost all the New York basketball fans who were in. And that's why these scenes that you see around the city today are as passionate and cool as they are right now. I think there's a lot of Nets fans saying, Knicks.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Yeah, that's what I've been doing. My dad, actually. My uncle, huge Knicks fan. I used to go cookouts at his house. I remember back in the day, we're watching Patrick Ewing doing his thing, all the superstars. The big names are certainly being talked about,
Starting point is 01:55:59 and they're also a part of the parade because I believe the Knicks family is one that remains pretty tight, unless you get out, and then you are... Excommunica. Then you're out forever, but it does feel like it's a celebration of the Knicks as a whole. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Mike, as a New York Knicks fan growing up,
Starting point is 01:56:13 where do you rank Jalen Brunson now? I think everybody but his dad thinks he's the greatest of all time when he comes to him. but what's kind of your take on that entire thing? Because, I mean, 45 points in a closeout game. He was incredible the entire finals. I always fight these arguments because, what, we take the trophy off of Patrick Ewing's fireplace
Starting point is 01:56:34 and giving it to Brunson, you're now the best Nick ever. You know, the eras are so different. I'll say this, Frazier, Reed, those Knicks, they won two championships. So let's not just because it didn't happen in the last 10 minutes and it happened before HD and 4K, Let's not disrespect all of that. Hubey Brown, who I worked with,
Starting point is 01:56:53 who's one of my favorite people of all time, when we used to say, hey, maybe this guy is now top 10 all time in the NBA. Hughby would say, okay, were you taking off the list? Which guy's coming off? And, you know, I think about what Frazier meant over the years and all that. Brunson is in the conversation with the best ever Knicks,
Starting point is 01:57:10 not just because of what he did in the last game, but what he has done for the last couple of years. And I love the fact that guys like Isaiah Thompson, and Steph Curry and now Jalen Brunson have given you over generations the reminder that the small guy has a place in the NBA if he can do what he did on that play to Wembe right there handle understand use his body use his strength and know how to finish and shoot and he becomes a threat all over the court like that play that's one of the
Starting point is 01:57:41 great plays of the season right there and just put them over the top I love what he did And that's going to inspire small guys like Steph did to handle, dribble, shoot, and toughness and leadership. His smarts don't get talked about enough. Such a smart basketball player. He's right there in the conversation. I don't give that trophy out. So whoever does, I'll go with their argument. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Well, thank you for the NBC rights of the U.S. Open, even though you could give those out. You can't give the next greatest of all time title out. I respect that. Willis, three-time finals MVP, one-time league MVP. I mean, you tell me, well, let's read the service to be in a conversation, you know. I haven't seen him one time. I haven't seen anybody mention to him. Now, on that note, you talk about the small guy being able to do stuff.
Starting point is 01:58:27 There was some stat. It was like 60% of Jalen's buckets were in the paint in one of these games. Again, Wendy, he was like 7-4. I don't know if there's going to be a lot of small guys that have the ability to have a sixth sense of where everybody is. But his body control and his savviness just seems to be at a different level, probably because how his dad, kind of, you know, forced it to be a basketball player, basically. And it's- You, A.J. and D. But you guys know from your football time,
Starting point is 01:58:54 sons of coaches are guys who over-indexed, right? Their knowledge, they're, I'll never forget talking to Aaron, Rogers, about this once, just talking about how that intersection of your physical ability and your knowledge of the game, and how long you can ride that peak and how cool that is. And you see that with great players. guys who've got an extra intellectual gear are guys who last,
Starting point is 01:59:17 it'll last a little bit longer. And Jalen Brunson now at the max of his athletic ability, maxing that as well, better than most. First one and last one out. I was Steph. Covey, his dad was a pro. Steph, that was a pro. Yes. It's quite an advantage.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Plus, you know, like, what you have to do to make it. Like, I think that is a big piece of information that my kids will have that I certainly maybe did not know or understand. It's like, hey, you're allowed. to commit this much to something. Like I think that's a big deal, or you have to commit this much to something. Just that game in general from being a
Starting point is 01:59:50 multi-generational professional athlete is a huge piece of information. We see it in football, obviously. All over the place. CERTAN showed up as, what, a 90-year-old man on the field, literally as Marvin. As a rookie, Marvin Harris to see his kid, but like, yeah, there's generational stuff where if I was a coach
Starting point is 02:00:06 in any sport, your dad was what, the best ever? Sick. That's like everybody was talking about the Bronny James stuff. Like, look at the nepotism going on. It's like, just as a scout, if this guy's fucking from the LeBron James family, I'm going to give him a little bit of, yeah, I am actually going to give him a little a little bit of a boost.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Arch Manning's going to get the similar treatment because he's part of the Manning family. I mean, it's just a natural. And I think stats would tell us it's an accurate thing too. Like it certainly helps us, you know, what's going on behind the scenes. And in every walk of life, I mean, when you go to somebody who's a dentist, you're like, oh, their dad was a dentist. Okay, you've been having this conversation at your dinner table your whole life.
Starting point is 02:00:45 I feel better about you putting a needle in my mouth to give me no vacatee, right? Well, certainly media too. I mean, this media world, Jesus. It's like you also know who to talk to, what to talk to, what to specialize in, what to ask, where to go, who should go. Like, there's so much of that. It's like, no, your network is your net worth. And that's never been more evident.
Starting point is 02:01:06 And obviously, professional sports is a meritocracy still, so you have to work your ass off. But boy, knowing how to work your ass off. ass off is a nice piece of information that hopefully, you know, continues to open up and expand. Pat, I also respect the heck out of people who follow their mom or dad in that same industry because everybody's job takes them away from their kids for some period of time. And it's a high profile job, travel, dedication. If you're really good at it, you've probably put an extra mile or two into it. I respect so much the kids that saw their parents taken away
Starting point is 02:01:40 from home time because of their excellence, dedication at the job. And the kids choose to go into that profession. That means when they came home, they showed them the good of what they do. And they appreciated the hard work that got their parent, wherever they got, and they sign up for it willingly. And they know Justin Thomas, Justin Thomas's dad, PGA Tour professional, a PGA professional lessons all the time. Of course, Justin learned as a kid.
Starting point is 02:02:08 He got all these lessons from his dad. but he also saw the time and the hours it took to be great. And on the range Tuesday, I'm standing with Mike Thomas. We're watching Justin. And I was like, you know what? You've been doing this your whole life. And that's why Justin's here and he's a multiple major champion. And he's one of the guys in this generation will be considered one of the best golfers
Starting point is 02:02:26 because he saw how Mike Thomas lived his life and loved golf. And what he got out of it. And he's like, I'm willing to follow my dad's footsteps. Good for that. It's a lot of pressure, obviously, having to follow in footsteps and obviously expectation and everything like that. and that's a good, that's a good note, like, because obviously I'm away a lot, you know, with my kids now, and there's a lot of work that has to be done, and they see it all, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:48 and there's a lot of those types of things, and we are having a good time because it is sports, so it's like, yeah, choose and do that. And as soon as I get home, you know, just like, the amount of interest that McKenzie has in it is well is awesome, you know, and, like, giving her game, you feel like super special. And I'm like, who knows, she might be on a microphone someday. So it's like, hey, listen, let me, I'm going to start you now.
Starting point is 02:03:07 I got her microphone. I got her, I got her, all this other equipment. I got her figuring out her levels. I got headphones going on, so she's naturally putting headphones on. It's like, why not try to give it as much as possible? But they've got to go blaze their own trail. And nobody has been able to blaze a trail like you, Tariko. You're everywhere and you're great at it at all.
Starting point is 02:03:25 And we appreciate the hell out of you making time. I would like to brag about you a little bit. Send a text at like 1140 something. That was like, hey, 130 Hail Mary, Tariko. We got nothing over here. If you could swing by, we'd obviously be thankful. You sent a thumbs back rather quickly. We are very grateful for you doing that, man.
Starting point is 02:03:42 Good luck the rest of the way, and you're the man. Love the way you guys do things. Anytime I'm around, you got me. Have a great one, guys. Enjoy. Happy Father's Day, all the dads. Hey. Hell yeah. You too.
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Starting point is 02:04:55 Yeah, the nepotism conversation that happens, it's like, sorry, you know. Like, I do, because I used to hate it as well. Fucker doesn't deserve that. Why does that person get that? Oh, because they hear they know or whatever. It's like for sports, like I would draft Bronny ahead of other.
Starting point is 02:05:15 people that I had ranked the same as brawny and maybe even a little bit better than brawny just strictly because like this guy's known the NBA his entire i see i remember seeing him he was on an NBA court when he was like three years old yeah it's hard not to do it and it is you know obviously different in sports because you got to earn it everybody's watching everybody's getting graded you got you know you're playing against these greats and it and it is another challenge too because you talk about all the good that comes with it knowing the game knowing what to do away from the game how to deal the loss how to do to win But like to go up and be like a Clay Thompson,
Starting point is 02:05:48 like whose dad was like a really, really great player and now you got to go blaze your own trail. Del Curry was a good player. Steph, you know, he's coming out of Davidson. Now he's going down. It's probably one of the greatest point guards ever. Peyton and Eli, you know, with their pops and what he was. Like, so it is a different part of it.
Starting point is 02:06:04 But everybody's going to, obviously, Bronny, if you're, you know, your dad's one of the greatest players off the time, everything you do is going to be just. Charlie Woods. Like, so it's a lot that comes with it. Every shot you hit, every shot you miss. your dad wouldn't miss that shot. Your dad would have made, your dad showed up early.
Starting point is 02:06:19 He worked hard on everybody, so it is another side of it, but the positives, I think, outweighs the negatives for the most part. I think there's a lot of good positive. Now, granted, not every professional athlete's kid is a professional athlete for a reason. It's very, very hard, very difficult. It's a lot of commitment. But if they have that bug, the competitive juice, it does seem to help. And Jalen Brunson, the most recent story of that, just a vet on the court.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Absolute dog. 45 in the close-out game. Crazy. Right here, too. Yeah. Right here. I put cowboy boots on. A little bit like this.
Starting point is 02:06:53 The guy's fucking point corner to the New York Knicks. Just one title. Against Wemby, who's 7 foot 100? Yeah. That makes no sense. That's science. That's somehow him understanding science partner and everybody else. There's a lot of people that have a lot of negative stuff to say.
Starting point is 02:07:06 There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions. But when you prove them wrong, you don't have to say shit to them. Jalen Brunson. There you go. Now Jalen Brunson did appear on first take the other day. I'm not going to say immediately a condescending comment But on that note, Jalen Brunson, you've been doing everything right, brother However the hell you want to go about doing your life, you do it
Starting point is 02:07:25 seemingly the most humble guy, hardworking guy, perfect to be the face of New York Judge, he's not doing terrible though, huh? He's not playing. He's hurt right now, but the Yankees have a very good chance to win the World Series this year. Very good chance. We know why he's hurt, too. Yeah. You can say it.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Can you tell us? You can say it. Do it. Fucking Mark DeRosso. What? Yeah. That guy killed everybody on Team USA. No?
Starting point is 02:07:57 Everybody. He killed Pete Kromshram just hit for the cycle. Yeah, he had a little bit of a slump. There's a reason he's hitting for the cycle because of what he said to that lady. Now, where was the miss? Was he on the team? Nope. He's having the greatest season in the history of baseball.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Ice terrain. It's been good, though? Yeah. Yeah, okay. He's on a team. Yeah. Sure. Where's Roman Anthony?
Starting point is 02:08:16 Where is he? Where's Judge? What happened to Roman Anthony? Roman Anthony's been hurt for eight months. Because of the team he was eight? I mean, it's kind of undisputable at this point. Kind of overworked your bullpen pitcher as well. Yeah, Garrett Whitlock, he got screwed.
Starting point is 02:08:31 How's a big number doing? He was the story of the year last year. We don't have to do this game. We just did this. There's no point to go through them all again. Brunson's the face in New York, and it's awesome. He surpassed Judgey? I mean, right now, yeah, he won a championship.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Right now. Till the fall. That might be forever. He's a great player. I mean, if you look at, you know, we're not going to go there. Because I like Jalen Brunson. I don't want to do this. Teams off.
Starting point is 02:08:55 The city's game. Yeah, exactly. There's no. Scataboo might be coming for the crown, though. I don't know. He better be good. I was going to say he's got about three years left, so he's going to have to, you know, he's going to have to, what, what are you mean?
Starting point is 02:09:08 What are you mean? Saying his brain is going to be mashed potatoes in about, you know, 18 months. Months. Gotta be. Well, I like him too, but, you know. That's the thing about Scataboo. That's not, that is safe. I think that is, I think that whole thing,
Starting point is 02:09:23 that whole department is safe. I see him everywhere. It's everywhere else that we, this part might be way too tough for the rest. We will find that out. I think that is going to be the Scataboo story. I'm excited to watch him. He is, every time I've seen him play,
Starting point is 02:09:37 in high school he broke 14 tackles. There's only 11 guys on a field. Okay. Arizona State, he weren't crazy. I don't know how that works. Then he gets to New York and in the NFL Is he going to be able to do it? Does the same exact thing? He was really good.
Starting point is 02:09:48 He was really good. Now he got hurt doing backflips. What's that? You have something to say, Bruce? We just got Pat Ricard, the bodyguard out in front of him now too, so it's going to be an absolute sight to behold. So you got Ricard and Scadaboo in the same backfield? I don't know how long Brunson is going to be the king of New York,
Starting point is 02:10:07 but we know the time and certainly now there's a parade being held for him and the boys. How's the parade going? If we got any more shots of the parade? What do we think the expected number is going to be? Just every human that's a citizen of New York City? Yeah, five million. Yeah. Sounds about right.
Starting point is 02:10:21 They did that for London for the NFL. I talked about that before. They had me go speak at the pep rally in London or whatever. I looked out at the stage. I'm modest crowd. Pretty good crowd. All right, we go back. I opened my phone as we're going back to the hotel and they make the announcement.
Starting point is 02:10:34 775,000 people were at the thing. It's like, I didn't see them. I think you just had, I didn't see it. Oh, they were walking around. We were walking around. Just in the city of London? No, they were by the, well, the thing was right in the middle of the city. So how far we got it?
Starting point is 02:10:50 Everybody in London can't do it. Cool. That's what they're going to do for New York here too. Oh, yeah, for sure, even the people in the windows. As they should, because those people are technically. Yeah, they are technically. Part of the parade route, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 02:11:01 Because everybody in that building could be looking outside. Could. And there could be two people in those apartments too, because there could be friends that have come in to the apartment. We're a champions. Yes, you are. Congratulations. Confetti. Speaking of numbers, do you believe the World Cup numbers now?
Starting point is 02:11:17 Because, I mean, everywhere, literally everywhere I go, like around people like somebody's watching or talking about World Cup, celebrating it, dressed like. Yeah. Saying one, just anytime you put a billion number on something, it is hard to take seriously. But I do think that entire countries could be watching these games. So I mean, nothing else on right now.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Yeah, he just like that is the marquee thing to watch every. single night. Yeah, I believe the numbers. Hearing that from Tarrico, too. Like, entire countries are shut down. Like, if the game's on, they close their jobs and they go to watch it. So it is kind to, yeah, maybe. And there's public watch party, so everybody kind of has eyes on. I can
Starting point is 02:11:56 believe it, especially with how awesome this has been. Now, and maybe it's because America hasn't had this much hype and we weren't hosting it, and it wasn't immediately thrown into our faces. But it does feel like a perfect storm, if you will, of team really good, we're hosting it,
Starting point is 02:12:12 sports kind of drought right now. College World Series, congratulations, Oklahoma and North Carolina. They've made it to the finals. This Oklahoma team's a real deal. Their point there are run differential, better than North Carolina's run differential, but West Virginia did put up like six late against North Carolina made a 12-7 game. Oklahoma, Georgia was the dog fight. I loved it. I think that guy, hmm, I don't know if it was that guy. I didn't know that side of the bracket that well. there was a guy for Oklahoma that hit a baseball directly off his kneecap and in the middle of his at bat
Starting point is 02:12:44 and he couldn't put weight on it one down actually then he got back up stepped back in a batter's box like I was so impressed just by that one situation right there now he struck out promptly struck out promptly struck out in pain
Starting point is 02:12:56 the next pitch was a ball and I think everybody on Georgia's team was like hey fucking idiot this guy can't even stand up just throw in the strike zone which did happen but I appreciated the toughness. I've appreciated the vibes. I've appreciated watching the fans get behind their baseball teams. And we wouldn't have done this if West Virginia hadn't gone on a run. I mean, that's just
Starting point is 02:13:16 100% of factual statement. But it's been an honor to kind of learn about college baseball. And I love that these two are doing battle because I think they both invest mightily in their baseball teams. So I like seeing teams that invest in it paying off. And hopefully others will do the same. Yeah, a really cool moment actually in that Oklahoma, Georgia game. I don't know if you saw it. And I I don't have the name. I wish I did. But I guess one brother on Georgia, other brother on Oklahoma. Brothers last collegiate at bat for Georgia. Guy hits a home run.
Starting point is 02:13:43 His brother's obviously playing on the infield, like goes nuts, basically, for him. Because the game was out of reach at that point. Oklahoma was going to go on to go to the Natty either way. So even that kind of story, I feel like that is what college sports is all about. Yeah, here it is actually. So this dude hits a home run. Obviously 11 to 3 game doesn't really affect. Colby Branch is the batter.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Boom. Colby Branch, the Branch brothers. And there's his family. And it's like he goes out on that note. Yeah. And there's his brother right there. Really, really cool. Yeah, that is, good for you, dude.
Starting point is 02:14:10 It sucks for us, but good for you. Casual, let's go. Let's want to make you see another of this thing. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Happy for you. But yeah, sports are beautiful, man. Can't help it stress that every single day. What else is beautiful is when a sportsbook platform says,
Starting point is 02:14:24 you know what? Yeah, all right, everybody could just go ahead and do a bet. America. If it doesn't win, we'll give you a bonus bets back. Now, remember, the money will not be redeposited back into your bank account on this bet if they lose or draw. But you will get the opportunity to utilize that amount of money as a future bonus bet somewhere else. So it's a guarantee that you'll win, you get your money.
Starting point is 02:14:45 If they draw or lose, you'll get the bonus bet back. It only works in the three-way USA money line wagers. You have to opt in and apply token. There are things you have to do here. Let's not just blindly open the app, download the app, because we're 21 plus and we're in a sports gambling state, and we're going to do this responsibly to add to the sports culture and not be assholes and try to become millionaires of the entire thing.
Starting point is 02:15:06 We're not super geniuses. We have no idea what's going to happen, which is why sports are great. But we do know that this one... This one is an old school one. Love it. This is not a normal modern 2026 promo at this stage of sports gambling. No. The beginning stages of sports gambling, which we were in the middle of.
Starting point is 02:15:26 There was a lot of these. There's a lot of, hey, yeah, we'll lose our fucking ass. Hopefully you'll do this. They've kind of settled down now. This is for America. Shout to draft kings. doing this and hopefully teams and people will ride alongside of this and learn that this soccer team's for real. And over the next couple weeks, we got a real chance to watch them electricity
Starting point is 02:15:46 in a sport that hasn't really captivated our country up into this point, but has a chance to do it now and going forward, which is good for society, good for sports as a whole. Shout to Draft Kings doing this. And shout out to you for joining us on a team ride on America tomorrow, responsibly, of course. So let's go right. Not better than a good team ride. Nothing. This is a fucking country ride. Yeah. Amen. Come join us at drafting. What time? What time we kick off? Three o'clock. Tree. Beautiful. From Seattle. That should be
Starting point is 02:16:13 loud. Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh, my God. Yeah. The USA. You, you, you, you, hey. Drew Carey's out there, photographer, for sure. I don't know. Griff and Randy will probably be there. Definitely. I don't know about Drew. Yeah, I assume.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Big Cracking guy. He's like a, he's like the number one photographer guy for the Cracken, I believe. Is that Marshawn? or Sounders Sounders maybe Whatever the case We're favored Let's win
Starting point is 02:16:40 United Ryan We were plus 110 Against Paraguay So minus 170 is quite the Quite the Do we know about Policic He had his He's still practicing on his own
Starting point is 02:16:51 Yeah but his best practice yesterday Who knows Yeah but if it's not him It's probably Gio Rana Okay Geo Rana probably comes in For Polific Not saying that we want that to happen
Starting point is 02:16:59 Just know that two very different styles of soccer Yeah Raina is a little bit of a theatrics. Okay, we'd like to let the rest of the world know that Raina doesn't represent our entire country but we're happy we got him.
Starting point is 02:17:12 We are happy we got him. What are he made? What do you say? He was one of the leaders. Theatrics. He'll be doing a lot of the... He'll flop around. He'll sell a call.
Starting point is 02:17:21 He will be trying to get a call on it. He will embellish. But it'll help us. Maybe if they call it. If not, it makes America look bad. But the thing that you can't take away from him, ridiculously talented.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Jason. Filthy talent. Obviously has a nasty goal in the 97th minute last time. He was only on the pitch for I think 16 minutes. He was on the ground four times scored a goal. So I mean, he is all over it. So we like it. I think he would be the one that would go in if it wasn't Polisic. Is that accurate, Gumpfee? Burrhalter was the one who got subbed on for Policic at half. So it could be Burrhalter to start and then Raina comes on late again. Listen, we like Raina at the end because the flopping can certainly earn us something at the end. And he does find contact, which is not allowed. Can't do that. So he's certainly going to emphasize that. But he's also got the... The flare.
Starting point is 02:18:11 He's got the welcome to the show mindset, which is good for the end of the game. Are we still doing the Pentagon gimmick? Oh, yeah. That's our style. I draw, I draw. Come on, man. Sog, sog, sogs. Yeah, every which way?
Starting point is 02:18:26 So it would be good. It could be Timmy way. Burrhalter's a hell of a player. He's very fast out there. Yeah, we got a lot of good players. Like, I think that's the thing. Like, if Polisic is down, we're not dead. Aronson also can do it.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Technically, in theory, we're not dead. But, yeah, what Chris Richards said is, we're not running the Pentagon. We're running to everybody run everywhere. They're in Amoeba. They're running the Amoeba. Yeah, exactly. Got some exotics going.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Yeah, they got a lot of exotics. Everybody's playing every position other than Ream and Chris Richards. It's a positionless football. I love it. It's the most important thing. We're playing a 2-8. Yeah, bingo. We're playing a 2-8, basically, with a goalie, and you guys all figure it out.
Starting point is 02:19:00 And then Paraguay's like, that guy ain't... I can't figure it out. Who's playing where? They don't know. And Pontchitino's like, yeah. Attack! That's what he does. He just yells that, and then we go.
Starting point is 02:19:12 And then he goes to the refs. A lot of this. You like that? He had great air forces on. I loved it. Great suit. It's a proper guff. He's a proper guy.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Our first. Proper Gaffer. Nigelie said he'd take him on England. It's like, you don't get him. Okay, nobody. Well, he said before they had Tommy Tuckel. Tommy Tuckel's halftime speed sent the boys into a craze to start that second half. Fuck Tommy Tuckel.
Starting point is 02:19:39 I don't like how many conscious you're on. I don't like how much. I just saw Gumpson. Yeah, he's right here on the America's Game 2 guarantee. Sorry for sporting you guys. I apologize for that. Tommy Tucle fucking sucks. Excite.
Starting point is 02:19:51 His poncher die. Gumbs is like two years away from being a citizen. So, yeah. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna, well, we hope. Be your friend, tell friend something nice. Might change your life. We're listening together. We're back tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:20:02 Hell yeah. Tomorrow's. It's game day. You're right. It's mass day. Ooy, ooy, oh, oh, oh, oh. You got to kick one in. No, no, no, we can't do that before tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:20:10 Yeah, we can't do that. TNT. Ooi, oh, there. Right. Right. That's not the World Cup. It was on the shoulder pass over there. Where's the official world cup?
Starting point is 02:20:23 Gap and left field. The fuck are you. laughing about how are you feeling, Ty? Good now. I'm going to take a huge shite here in probably about 15 minutes or so I'm feeling pretty good. Didn't you say you're going to take a huge shite in AJ's B-box that they
Starting point is 02:20:38 said? That's the plan. It's a hawk-hive. Hawkeyeve, sorry. Sick. How much is for? $50,000 $50,000 a giveaway. Yeah. I'm going glass. We're doing it every day for the entirety of the World Cup that we were alive during. Which, I don't, there's going to be I'm not allowed.
Starting point is 02:20:57 Hey, put this. That's fine. Do yourself a favor. Put this thing through the roof. We're celebrating soccer. Into the net. We have prediction markets. We're going to make it ever?
Starting point is 02:21:07 Gagga. Go-boo. That was good line. That was the trajectory. We're starting to get a little bit. We're becoming a soccer show. Oh, yeah. Be your friend, tell my friends.
Starting point is 02:21:17 I'm nice about change your life. We're listening together. We can't thank you. Enough for allowing us to do this. And we'll continue to do this. do it for as long as you will have us. You are the greatest. We love you.
Starting point is 02:21:35 We appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow. Team on beat, team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.

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