The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 161 - Live From The Boom Booms. JuJu, Kyle Van Noy, And The Incomparable Doug Flutie. Real Feel Good Super Bowl Friday

Episode Date: January 31, 2020

On today's show, Pat remembers his Super Bowl moment as he retells the story of kicking off Super Bowl XLIV in Miami, and how it was the first time in his life that he was legitimately nervous for som...ething. Also included are 4 incredible guests from Radio Row. First, Pro Bowler, member of the 2017 All-Rookie Team, JuJu Smith-Schuster joins the show. He and Pat chat about how difficult this last season was with people taking shots at him for not being healthy and playing too many video games, he shares his reaction to being called out by Antonio Brown, chats about Mike Tomlin, and explains how he gets the frustration out from not getting the ball (12:43-24:20). Next, 2x Super Bowl Champion, current free agent, and friend of the show, Kyle Van Noy joins the boys from Radio Row. He stirs the Tom Brady conspiracy pot and gives a couple landing spots for Tom, chats about being nominated for Walter Payton Man of the Year, explains why he thinks this year was different for the Patriots, and gives his prediction to Super Bowl LIV (26:52-39:03). Next, the greatest CFL Quarterback of all-time, Heisman Trophy winner, 3x Grey Cup Champion, 3x Grey Cup MVP, a man who quarterbacked in three different professional leagues, Doug Flutie joins the show. They chat about his drop kick on what wound up being the last play of his career, what he thinks Tom Brady is going to do next, if its difficult picking up a new system as an again Quarterback, what he did to stay in shape to play into his 40's, and Doug gives his Super Bowl LIV prediction (41:41-53:49). Lastly, Super Bowl Champion, 2x AP NFL Head Coach of the Year, former Carolina Panthers and current Washington Redskins Head Coach, Riverboat Ron Rivera joins the program. They chat about what his expectations are in Washington, and why he ultimately chose them when he could've went almost anywhere, what he's going to do at Quarterback, why he likes their roster, and what they might be thinking about doing with that #2 overall pick (53:51-1:01:58). It's a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 and I'm currently recording live from a hotel in Miami, Florida. It's very, very nice. It's set up like a little Havana. I don't want to say the name because I don't want to make anybody's life miserable who's also staying at this hotel. Just in case, you know. But I'm down here obviously for Get Up in the Morning.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Then our show from Radio Row kicking off at 10 a.m. with Drew Brees. Fucking Drew Brees at the Radio Row kicking off at 10 a.m. with Drew Brees fucking Drew Brees at the Radio Row I think that should be a good time very loud pool party happening directly next door probably the loudest bass I've ever heard in my entire life and that that's saying something because my brother and Nick Miraldo and others were in car clubs that used to put 12s in the back because anyways the boom booms are on next door and tomorrow's going to be a pretty electric day I believe I'm on with Rich Eisen I think it's 12 30 no I have no idea one
Starting point is 00:01:40 I don't know somewhere in that time catch with him, chit chat with him. It's going to be a great day. And the conversations we have for you today, I think you're going to like, I think you're going to enjoy these. Pretty solid. I mean, I asked some real questions to some people here today. Juju, I asked some real questions to him. I think, I think I think the situation between him and Antonio Brown Is an interesting one And I had to ask him about it Very much in the camp that I hope Antonio Brown figures it all out
Starting point is 00:02:18 And gets back in the league And becomes a great member of society And keeps it moving I hope that very much but whenever you hear this juju answer i think you're going to be impressed with juju mightily today's show is brought to you by sea geek the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and all the boys and my lady are over there eating, so they won't say it, but I will. The moon.
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Starting point is 00:03:09 Concerts, watching just elite individuals just completely savage a guitar or sing the hell out of a song. And how about a live sporting event? Super Bowl is coming up. Super Bowl, I'm not sure I'm even allowed to say it in the end. But basketball, you name it, they got tickets for everything.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And right now you use promo code PAT, you get $10 off your first order. Promo code McAfee, $20 off your first order. All right, let's get to the damn show here. It's a goodie. All right, let's get to the damn show here. It's a goodie Today I will be traveling with a few of the boys down to Miami for the Super Bowl the last time I did this Okay, the last time I traveled to Miami for Super Bowl. I Was playing in the game and all week leading up to the Super Bowl friends and family were chit-chatting. It's the biggest game of all time.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And I was 22 years old, had no idea how to punt, was riding the coattails of Peyton Manning after four years of riding the coattails of Pat White and Steve Slayton. I mean, I just was riding coattails into these magical moments. Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Gator Bowl, Monarchy Card Care Bowl. And now we had won 14 straight games
Starting point is 00:04:28 in a regular season i didn't even know how to pump but it didn't matter we had peyton manning a quarterback and a great defense then we chose to lose two games which everybody was very upset about the ogs of the team like we want to knock out the 72 dolphins for being the only team that was undefeated but bill paulie made the decision for us to, you know, rest the starters the last two weeks because we didn't have to play them or have to win. We had home field advantage. We win. We get to the Super Bowl. Oh, my God. Confetti's flying. We're going to the Super Bowl. Then we take the trip down to Miami. It was incredible. incredible peyton manning took us out the first night to dinner and then some drinks afterwards get a nice night's sleep the next night i went out with the defense we went to a couple uh adult ballets we had a great time it was a wild evening and then we all kind of hunkered down for the rest of the week like hey you know what everybody we got a partying out of us we're down here in miami we got everything we could potentially want coming
Starting point is 00:05:25 to us on sunday we got to play the new orleans saints drew breeze let's go ahead and hunker down so for the entire week we did our practices and practices were different because you got all the stars are coming out we practice at the miami dolphins facility which is very nice place by the way you got palm trees ever very windy i mean it was a nightmare to punt i might as well not even did anyways i mean i was just punting over the place Chris Berman was walking there was like people just coming to our practice that weren't normally there shaking hands kissing babies it was an entirely different world obviously but when I was talking to my friends and family they're like hey man you could potentially be kicking off the Super Bowl and I was like oh I don't even want to
Starting point is 00:06:00 think about that I don't want that's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen so now as we get closer to the game they're like hey're going to kick off the Super Bowl. You cannot embarrass your family and your friends. I'm like, that's not going to happen. Don't worry about that. So we finally get to the game day. I jog out to warm up. I get a chance to talk to Deion Sanders right there.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Lifelong dream being a big fan of that guy. And I'm punting to Reggie Bush in the game. So I strike up a little conversation with Deion. He has no idea I exist, obviously. I go, hey, man, Reggie Bush is a returner. What would you do if you were me? And he was like, hey, keep it out of his hands, boy. I was like, well, Deion, I wish I could control punts like you think I could.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I have no idea where this ball is going. I was drafted to punt. I have no idea how to punt. Then as the game continues to go on, I see my family and friends in the top row of the stadium top top top row of the stadium obviously when you're a rookie punter you get a lot of pool with your super bowl tickets my family was at the top row they were literally they could have just rappelled down the outside of the stadium if they wanted to right so i jog on the field i see them
Starting point is 00:07:03 up there i'm like man this is awesome you know this is really cool to be here this is just for opening warm-ups or whatever and my one friend's like hey you're gonna kick off the super bowl i'm like i don't even think about it i don't even think about it so as the game goes on or as the warm-ups go on i want to get a picture my dad's got a camera you know it's like a magical moment i have to go over to where the super bowl 44 sign is or whatever on the field drew breezes on her warming up i'm like through my dad my dad's got a camera you get the hell out of the way yeah all right boiler up so i stand there take a picture wait to my dad how's it going old man good to see you it's you know it's it's a lot it doesn't even feel like it's a real
Starting point is 00:07:38 game the crowd isn't like an a dominant saints crowd it's on a dominance colts crowd it's just like an interesting crowd very corporate you got a lot of people that just goes so just everything felt different and felt weird you know and as i go back inside vinitario's looking at me he's not playing in the game because he was hurt he was like hey there's only been a few amount of people that have kicked off a super bowl it could be you and i'm like vinnie i'm already hearing it from my friends and family i don't need to hear from you that is a massive moment i'm not prepared for he's like we'll get prepared for it potentially happen i'm like i hope not so we go
Starting point is 00:08:07 out there you got the national anthem carrie underwood sang it she crushed obviously it was a great singing performance and then it came time for the coin toss okay and i'm just kind of walking around on the sideline and they go out there and drew brees calls it boom they win the super bowl or they win the coin toss and i go oh no he's gonna want the ball drew to want the ball. Drew Brees is going to want the ball. And they go, the Saints have won the coin toss, and they have elected to receive. And I'm like, damn it! Here we go! So I,
Starting point is 00:08:34 the equipment manager that I always talk to, his name's Frog. Frog had my tea every time. Frog comes up to me, and he goes, hey, give it a ride, kid. And I go, how about you? How about you, about you doing he's like don't worry about it you're gonna be okay i was like frog what if i hit the worst opening kickoff in the history of the super bowl he's like you're not you're gonna be good i was like
Starting point is 00:08:53 i feel like there's a chance i could like at some point somebody's gonna have the worst kickoff in the history of the super bowl at some point somebody's gonna kick the set of bounds that could be me today he goes no no no not you pat no, not you, Pat. But if it was, pretty memorable. Oh, my God. So I get the tee, and I go into the huddle. Pat, you want to kick it left? You want to kick it right? I said, let's just hope I get it off the tee.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Okay, let's just hope I get it. I want to kick it dead straight. He goes, okay, let's just do that. We'll just do a, you sure you don't want to kick it left or right? I just want to get it off the tee. Okay, you got it. So I go out onto the field. I put my tee down. And this is the first time in my life I've really been incredibly nervous.
Starting point is 00:09:30 My entire life. This is the first time I've ever been incredibly nervous. I played in a lot of big moments. And I've missed some big kicks, but I was never nervous. I think it was always because I had a lack of nerves almost. I was kind of too relaxed in situations. This is the first time in my life where I could feel my entire sphincter just tight up as tight as it could possibly get.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It was tighter than the new Atlanta Stadium. I was so nervous. I go down. I put the tee down. And I look up, and there's just a sky cam like right here. And I'm like, well, why is that there? I mean, so I go down. I act like I'm fidgeting with the t again i look back up
Starting point is 00:10:06 and uh the ref walks over to me and he hands me the ball and he goes uh good luck today man uh if you're gonna hit any onside kicks just let us know whatever i'm not hitting an onside kick okay i'm not hitting an onside kick i said what's your name he said my name's greg i was like greg congratulations on getting a ref the super bowl he goes congrats to you too i was like let's see you know like let's see if this is a celebratory moment or not he hands me the ball and he goes good luck and I'm like you too Greg so Greg backs out Greg Steve is his name I put the ball on the tee I look back up sky cam still just staring at me I'm like well this thing get the hell out of here
Starting point is 00:10:38 so as I act like I'm putting the ball back down again sky can't goes flying out of my car this is awesome so I take my steps back and that's the first time in my life I really like took it in the moment oh my god I'm kicking off the Super Bowl right now this is pretty cool and I normally would point to the farthest guy right see if he's ready like hey you ready over there farthest guy left you ready over there and that gives a signal to everybody else on the kickoff team that we're about to go it's the first time I look to my right, and the way kickoff teams are counted is outside in it goes one, two, three, four, five,
Starting point is 00:11:10 and then you got your L, one, two, three, four, five. My R5, his eyes were glued open, it looked like. I've never seen anybody that either scared or focused, and I looked at him like, we ready? He's like, yeah, ready. I'm like, all right, and you ready? I look up at the play clock. We're about to get a delay of game
Starting point is 00:11:30 on the opening kickoff of the Super Bowl after all of this magic. So I go running at the ball, and as I get about three yards, four yards away from it, flashes just start going off, and I'm like, oh my, is my penis out? Oh my God. Flashes everywhere. off and I'm like oh my is my penis oh my god flashes everywhere I barely even make contact with the ball it gets off obviously there's a incredible photo that my mom and dad have at the
Starting point is 00:11:55 house and me kicking it off and it wasn't the best kickoff in the history of the Super Bowl but wasn't the worst kickoff in the history of the Super Bowl. And that, my friends, is damn good news. I'm excited to get down to Miami. I'm excited to do the Radio Row thing tomorrow morning. I'm excited to watch the 100th NFL season come to the end this weekend. And although it brings up terrible memories in hindsight, I really wish we would have won the coin toss and got the ball because that second half kickoff really ended up
Starting point is 00:12:25 to be a pretty important play in the history of the things sean payton talked about that this morning on pro football talk he said they were banking on hank basket bailing and instead hank basket didn't bail it just took a bad op before the before he could get the hang of it or the hold of it and i'll tell you what that guy's life has never been the same since that moment. And there's a lot of people that get blamed for the loss of that game. And none of them are me. And I feel
Starting point is 00:12:52 very, very, very good about that. But there's obviously a lot of memories here. And none of them are good. None of them are good. I mean, getting to play in the Super Bowl, I guess, is cool. Getting to kick off a Super Bowl is cool But heading back down there. It's basically they're having a celebration of the Saints team that won ten years ago everything I mean, it's just I can't wait to get down there
Starting point is 00:13:16 Joining us now Representing putting on for Gatorade more specifically bolt 24 a pro bowler an internet sensation a man who is an absolute stud on and off the field. Ladies and gentlemen, wide receiver of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Juju Smith-Schuster. That a boy, Juju. How are you, brother? I'm doing great, man. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on the show. Hey, no problem. Thank you for coming on. You're a legend.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Let's talk about Bolt24 and what man. Thank you. I appreciate you having me on the show. Hey, no problem. Thank you for coming on. You're a legend. Let's talk about Boat 24 and what it means to you. In specific, what is Gatorade trying to do with Boat 24? So Boat 24 is basically a new product. It's off the till. Basically, I use it for hydration, electrolytes. When I'm gaming, when I'm outside, hanging out, chilling, when I'm in the club, hanging out, I drink it. It's the best fuel for your body. And then when I'm competing, obviously, I use Gatorade. Okay. Well, I respect the club, hanging out. I drink it. It's the best fuel for your body. And then when I'm competing, obviously, I use Gatorade.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I respect the hell out of that. I was with Gatorade for a while. Then I hopped over to Pedialyte during my partying years. And then I brought back to Gatorade, obviously. It's optimal performance, and Bolt 24 is delicious. Now, let's talk about you, Juju. You were a guy who got it when it came to being an entrepreneur and everything like that
Starting point is 00:14:25 off the field, utilizing your platform and your incredible abilities in the NFL to propel yourself off of the field. Now I'm from Pittsburgh, right? So whenever I saw you doing this and taking advantage of this type of opportunity off the field and becoming this super celebrity that you've become in the gaming world and on YouTube, I knew that there was a chance. And I was also somebody who was very active business-wise while playing. I knew that there was a chance and i was also somebody who was very active business-wise while playing i knew that there was a chance if any type of stumble in your playing came whether it was an injury or anything like that would happen that yinzers in particular would hold everything that you were doing off the field against you that's kind of happened this year by dumb people not smart people but dumb people did you get to hear any of that noise this year you were riddled with injury beginning of the season a coach passes away i mean
Starting point is 00:15:09 this was a tough year from you and a lot for you and a lot of people started targeting uh the internet stuff like because of it oh for sure man you know we don't perform at the highest level to have like high expectations uh the first thing you hear about is like oh he's playing too much video games oh he's doing too much branding stuff too Oh, he's doing too much branding stuff, too many sponsors. He's doing too much stuff off the field. You know, and that's like, I think that's how it was. But, you know, for myself, you know, I just stayed focused, you know, I brought out the noise. Those were the things that I knew I was going to come with, you know, with me here and all that. So it was a tough season. You know, the situation we have with different quarterbacks, me having my own personal injuries in my knee and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But at the end of the day, you know, I still came out healthy, and we finished the season strong. You are no stranger to going through hard times. I looked into your story a little bit. Your high school, from what I read, during your high school years, you were sleeping on the floor of a garage, basically, with the rest of your family. Then you go to USC. You become a superstar. And then now you're in the NFL the rest of your family then you go to usc you become a superstar
Starting point is 00:16:05 and then now you're in the nfl taking care of your family it's a beautiful story of a guy that goes now i don't want to say rags to riches but from hard times to good times is that something you'll lean on for whenever you get maybe you know people coming after you in a sad way that you're mentally tough to get through anything yeah for sure man sure, man. I think my mental is very, very tough in a situation where I've been to the lowest. You know what Drake says, start from the bottom, and I'm at the top. So with myself, man, it's always about,
Starting point is 00:16:36 I didn't have any of this, and I'm grateful for all of this, and I'm humble. So all I can do is go up from here. Juju, you never ever stop being the entrepreneur that you are. I just want to let you know, the game will end at some point for everybody. This entrepreneur and this real estate that you're gathering on the internet will be here forever. It's very intelligent of you. I want you to let you know that no matter what anybody says, you can tell them to go fornicate themselves. That's awesome, man. I appreciate that. That's
Starting point is 00:17:04 so cool. Hey hey no problem i did a lot of this whenever i was playing not to your level but i did a lot of the same thing and i knew that if i had any stumbles at all or and i was a much less important player to the team but i knew that if i wasn't perfect people are going to say things i saw it start happening to you and i was like i hope he doesn't get shy or shy away from this now i gotta pivot you became the number one guy which automatically becomes with a lot of pressure the guy that you were in a wide receiver meeting room with antonio brown has been a known hater publicly of yours did you see this coming whenever you two were teammates or did this kind of come out of nowhere it kind of came out of nowhere you know came out of left field i did
Starting point is 00:17:38 not expect to see any of this um you know playing with antonio brown you know my first couple years like you know we always talked about being great and dominating, and that's what we did. Our last time that we played with each other, we both had over 1,000 yards, over 100 catches. What's going on right now off the field, social media-wise, it's pretty, pretty crazy. I did not expect none of this. Yeah, it seems as if, and now this is from an outsider's perspective,
Starting point is 00:18:04 and I actually had a pretty good relationship with Antonio Brown, brown as i assume you did as well whenever he started taking shots at you i think a lot of people are like man why is he acting like this towards juju instead of helping him out and building him up which i assume that you guys did whenever you were in wide receiver room is that accurate were you two a a team that was trying to help each other out for a long time and then all this is kind of just boom what is happening yeah yeah man it was that's how it was you know we were kind of like you know hand for hand like let's both be great let's both do this let's both you know reach our goal and then uh you know the situation what happened you know with him and you know with the stories you know it's tough it's a tough situation
Starting point is 00:18:39 okay so let's uh let's pivot to mike tomlin because what you guys were able to do this year without ben roethlisberger, trading in for Minka Fitzpatrick, being able to get as many wins as you did and a potential playoff run almost. What is Mike Tomlin like as a coach? And why doesn't he get enough respect, I think, as other coaches do? Mike Tomlin, I mean, I think he's one of the best coaches I ever had is because he's so authentic.
Starting point is 00:19:04 He's so real. He keeps it how it is. He doesn't beat around the bush. He's just one of the coaches that, you know, he'll tell you straight up, you know, how if you're going to lose your job or, you know, your position, you know how it is. And it's just so crazy because, you know, a lot of guys go, well, no, I want to help you. But no, my time is walking to me and I'm like, no, if you're not producing, you're not doing this. Like we got other players ready to come I'm not home. That's on the couch ready to play. So he's one of those guys that's always keeps it real
Starting point is 00:19:30 What are you doing this offseason to get better at football? Man, I'm training with this training Corey Cali. He's a It's a one-on-one session, but you know, he turned like Michael B. Joy a lot of other guys, you know, just you know, get it laying losing weight cutting up getting faster We're gonna rock stuff like that. So I'm trying to get to that next level. Ben Roethlisberger is this quarterback that has been perennially great. I mean, legitimately massive numbers, great quarterback,
Starting point is 00:19:59 but off the field sometimes he says things where people go, that's not what elite quarterbacks do. This year, while Ben was on the bench and while he was injured and out, was he around? Was he helping out as much as possible? And how do you view your relationship with Ben Roethlisberger?
Starting point is 00:20:14 So my relationship with Ben is amazing. It's actually pretty awesome. You know, my first year, it was kind of tough because, you know, he doesn't like all rookies. Especially wide receivers. I guess when you've had a guy who's been elite for league for 15 years plus,
Starting point is 00:20:26 and, you know, I had to work towards that, prove myself that I can play with him, and that's what I did. So our relationship was great. You know, this offseason, I mean, this past season, you know, he's been hurt, he's been injured since week two. You know, he's been around, actually. He's been traveling, he's been in the office, he's been helping us out. He's just one of those guys man
Starting point is 00:20:45 I just wants the best for the team. All right. Hey, what's the streamer Bowl? What's going on with that? And are you gonna win it? Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm with my boy Buga today who goes on I won last year I won the four and I woke up. I'm as a solo player. So it'd be cool man. She remote is basically Everybody has to do that's gonna be gaming space like a 2b2 With a professional front player and a pro athlete How long have you been in the game? You've been a gamer for the recent history here and are you worth a damn at it or very very very very long time Are you good?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Are you good? Yes When you play Madden you throw the ball to yourself every time When you play Madden, you throw the ball to yourself every time? Yeah, usually after a Sunday game, if I don't get the ball enough, I just go home and throw it to myself. You'll also be a part of the pre-fight productions tonight on DAZN for the Jake Paul fight. What are you looking forward to that? Man, this is my first fight. I'm super excited just to be on DAZN, the Jake Paul fight. What are you looking forward to that? Man, this is my first fight. I'm super excited for, you know, just to be on DAZN,
Starting point is 00:21:48 hang out with the guys and everybody out there, man. It's gonna be cool to see Jake Paul, you know, go out there and just dominate, man. I'm super excited. You know, he's a big YouTuber. All my family watches him, and it's pretty cool to see him go out there and dominate. Juju, you should go duck hunting with Duck for a YouTube video. That's just something I'm thinking. Yeah. James Washington does it too on our team. I think it would be – honestly, that's a good idea, man.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I think that's pretty cool. I like that. What do you do whenever you're thinking of videos, concepts for your – do you have a team with you? You do a lot of great stuff. Like even in Pittsburgh, a lot of charitable stuff on your YouTube you do a lot of really good stuff what is the process behind that whole thing man honestly man if I wake up one day and I was like yo I want to do this let's do
Starting point is 00:22:33 it so for example I had a water balloon fight like two days before like it's almost like I was like three four hundred people showed up and I it was like a big one we'll find his. And it was like two days before. It was all spontaneous and it wasn't going on in the world and I just however I feel like how much I want to spend
Starting point is 00:22:49 but it's pretty cool man. The money you spend you make it back in YouTube. Amen. Hey. Amen. Amen. Ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:22:58 Pro Bowler a guy who's going to get back into good graces with the city of Pittsburgh next year whenever he dominates. Not that he isn't already but just the dumb y out there wide receiver from Pittsburgh Steelers YouTube sensation about to be a streamer Bowl Champion and you can catch him on tonight's pre-fight production with the zone juju Smith shoes
Starting point is 00:23:21 Thank you, man My guy I see you. That Antonio Brown stuff was interesting. Came out of nowhere. I was excited to talk to him. Literally, the only thing I wanted to ask him about was that. Because, what do you call him? Poo-poo?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Poo-poo Schuster. Poo-poo. That's what he's called. But the thing that Antonio Brown would do that, like a lot of people from the outside. Now, obviously, we're learning more and more about Antonio Brown as the days go on, right? I think we're all learning more and more about him. And Antonio Brown, I still feel as if there's a chance for him to potentially turn us all around if he gets his mental health checked out, right?
Starting point is 00:23:51 If he can figure out a way to get his chemicals balanced, which is something that has to happen for some people, and he can get back into it, that would be great. It feels like that's what's happening. I'm no doctor. But whenever he started going after Juju, a lot of people were very – I was like, why is he going after Juju? Because he looks bitter whenever that happens, and that's kind of what took well i think it's because juju won team mvp the year before and ab was not happy about that yeah but who cares well he does all of it i i didn't you know what i mean yeah jujus and for people who come at juju for like doing all he's 23 years old man he's a kid yeah he's smart though yeah and by the way whenever you're sleeping
Starting point is 00:24:23 on a garage floor whenever you're in high school and with your six siblings and just, I mean, and now you've made it. It's like, you know what? I want to make sure that this money is coming forever. And granted, he's going to have to have a better year. He's going to have to dominate. Now, granted, he got hurt. His coach passed away.
Starting point is 00:24:38 There's a lot of things that fall into that, especially being a professional athlete. Whenever you're at 75%, you're not going to look as good as you did at potentially 90% or 100%, which I think happened. But I think for him, I think he gets back in and dominates next year. It's going to be a beautiful telling story for all Yinzers everywhere. Coming to you live from the boom-booms.
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Starting point is 00:27:37 He's up for the Walter Payton Man of the Year brought to you by Nationwide. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Van Noy. Hey. I'm back. Hey, before we start, everybody was like, you can't go on his show anymore. We're 0-2 when you go on his show. I'm like, well, now I'll be undefeated, so we're good. Uncaged. Kyle Van Nooy, uncaged.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Hold on. I have a question, Kyle. Am I being blamed for the collapse of the new england patriots there towards the end i can't i can't give you that credit hey let's talk about something serious being named walter payton man of the year is a massive massive accolade in the nfl it's not an easy thing to accomplish you're going to be a good human it's one you'll carry for the rest of your life i was walter payton man of the year for the colts i still talk about and remember it to this day congratulations on all the incredible work in the community.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Is that something you really focus on, I'd assume, yeah? Yes, I do. It's a big part of who I am as a person. I want to give back. You know, I've given sweatshirts off my back. That's just what I'm about. You know, if someone's in need, I'm there for them. And without my wife and I's foundation, the Van Noy Valor Foundation,
Starting point is 00:28:48 we strengthen those in our communities, foster care, adoption, and struggling youth, and we just want to give them success for the future and whatever it is they want to do. And that's what I want to do with Nationwide. I want to take that next step nationally with them, and I hope i'm picked so i can't my partnership's amazing hey let's go let's go hey go and get it i hope you go and get it when you win do you have an award uh speech planned hell no off the top baby you gotta go
Starting point is 00:29:18 off the top kyle you're a very confident man you're good on a camera you're good in conversation but some of those people that choose to go off the top of those awards Come viral moments for being terrible No, I got to tell you a quick one So the Patriots do One they give every year. It's the Ron Burton award, right? And they don't tell you I go up in front of all the sponsors for New England, all my players, and I say, I'm so thankful for the family of Ron.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And before I even thought about it, I almost said Burgundy. And my body just stopped. And then one of my teammates is in the bag like So after I get done I almost said right after Ron Burton I almost said keep it classy You deserve to win the Ron Burgundy Award as well every time you come on here I appreciate the hell out of your statements now obviously i have to ask you hey this year for the patriots was different this was a different year for you guys this was a different year up there there's a lot of conversation and chatter surrounding foxborough including you i think you're a free agent as well what is your fear we go yeah
Starting point is 00:30:40 hey i i only they don't only a free agent I know is Tom Brady. Hey, are you feeling a little bitter that nobody's talking about Kyle Van Noy being a free agent? Hell no. I want to talk about Tom. Let's get it. We can talk about Tom. I've been throwing up storms over here. I think on one radio show I said he's retiring.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Another one I told him he's going to Las Vegas. Another one, he's moving out of the country. I've been throwing storms. He's going to have a hell of a time answering all my questions. Okay, hold on. So for the Pat McAfee show here, what do you think is going to happen with Tom Brady? I think Tom Brady's going to stay
Starting point is 00:31:25 at home. No, let's do it. He's going to Miami. There's a connection there. He loves it down there. Giselle likes warm weather. He likes warm weather. Why not? Hey, all of these things are legitimately
Starting point is 00:31:43 possible. Let's talk about your future, though. What is your plan? What are you thinking? Well, you just had an incredible season. That defense was dominant. You've got to be thinking that things are going to be very good for you this offseason as you hit free agency. Yeah, I think I'll have some options. But I want to do kind of what's best for my family.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And I want to set up my little little legend uh financially so obviously he's gonna work his ass off uh that ain't happening but if things go south you know I'll have a plan set up for him so he can take care of himself what's your little legend's name Trey Legend oh Trey Legend I forgot that's what his name that's an incredible game that is an absolutely incredible legend now here's a question winning the walter payton man of the year in new england is a massive deal because that means you've taken care of that community in a beautiful fashion now you're hitting free agency is that something that's going to like weigh in heavy because you're big in the community up there it is i would love to stay in New England, not only because of the fan base and what Massachusetts now means to me,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but more importantly, the players and the friendships that I made with some of those players runs deep. You know, they're going to be they're my brothers for life. What we've gone through. I know you said it's a different season in New England just because we lost and didn't go to the Super Bowl. But we made the playoffs. How many teams can say that? And not many. We did that.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And obviously we didn't reach our goals. But I like how people say it's a different in New England only because we didn't make the Super Bowl, which is absolutely insanity. Kyle, that's it. To me, I feel we had a good, successful season. It just didn't end with the right result we wanted to of making it to the top. Isn't that insane, though? That really is what this all spurs around, the fact that the New England Patriots didn't
Starting point is 00:33:38 make the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is like a home for you guys. Shane Leckler made like eight straight Pro Bowls or something like that, so they're like, hey, he has a legitimate locker at the Pro Bowl if he doesn't make it. You guys have a legitimate locker room at the Super Bowl. That's what it's felt like for the last 20 years. So anytime you don't hit that, that's a massive, like everybody's like, oh, they're dead.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah. I do have a question for you. Do you feel, because I feel this, that it doesn't have the same juice this year that it has in previous years. Kyle, this feels as if you're asking a question that has a very personal reason behind it and maybe a little bit of an ego. No, no, no. It's more, I'm speaking of New England. I'm not speaking of myself.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm speaking of New England. Do you feel like the juice is different this year than previous years? I do think... You could go back all the way to the Steelers and Cardinals game. I guess you're right. It does feel as if there's not as much
Starting point is 00:34:38 juice. Now granted, devastating loss at the beginning of the week to a legend in the sports world, right? That became something. And I think even if you guys were there, that would be something that would have dominated the first half of the week to a legend in the sports world right so it's true so that true that became something and i think even if you guys were there that would be something that would have dominated the first half of the week because a lot of tributes to be paid to them you know what i mean but you're 100 right though there's not a lot of story lines coming out of the super bowl other than everybody wondering if patrick mahomes is going to be able to defeat that defense in your eyes good defense beat good offense you're a defensive player i assume you
Starting point is 00:35:02 figure that oh that's tough bro i personally i don't think these teams match up very well with each other okay uh that's my personal take defensively they have strengths and weaknesses on the niners offensively the chiefs have strengths and weaknesses you know but the niners offense is really good. The Chiefs defense is playing good at late. See, I just don't think they match up very well. Who do you think? My opinion. You think aired out offense wins over this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:35:36 You think Mahomes will be able to figure it out? You think Andy Reid finally gets one? First time in 50 years the Chiefs have been in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Andy Reid's a hell of a coach. Give him two weeks. But it's the same thing with Shanahan. I think the Niners will because they're going to get enough stops,
Starting point is 00:35:52 and I don't think the Chiefs defense will. Oh, my. You have a question, Diggs? Oh, no. I was just going to say earlier that he was saying that there's not enough or not as much energy around the Super Bowl. I think it's because the fans are like 50-50 split. When New England
Starting point is 00:36:08 was in, 99% of the country was rooting against New England. That's true. Everybody hates you guys. I think when you come on this show... That's a very solid point. A lot of people... A lot of people tweet me whenever you're on this show that they
Starting point is 00:36:24 don't want to like you. They would like to hate you strictly because you're a patriot. And you make it very difficult. So that's something to think about as you go into this offseason. Well, you are in Colts Nation. You love Indy. They hate the Patriots now. That hate runs deep.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You even hate me, but you got to like me. No, no. I respect it. I respect it. But I do think, oh, here's something I have me. No, no. I respect it. I respect it. But I do think – oh, here's something I have to ask you before we get out of here. Joe Judge hired as a head coach. Good hire for the Giants? I think so.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I think so. If he can – he's a ball of energy. If he can take his energy he has and consistently each and every day line it up with that positive energy and not go all over the place. I think they're going to be really, really good. Cause he's a really good coach. He loves football. That's not me selling him. That's just straight back. He loves football. I mean his country, self speaking, he's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:37:25 In his country. But when he gets going, it's money. He loves football. I'm excited for him with the Giants. Go Giants, right? Do they have a lot of money to spend? Okay. Last question before we get out of here. Is that
Starting point is 00:37:42 little brace that you have on your left ring finger the reason why the Patriots lost this Year was that a devastating injury there? Well, if it was on my middle finger Hey go in that Walter Payton man of the year brother will you ladies and gentlemen, thank you I appreciate it shout out shout out to nationwide man. They're great. Hey off the top there that speech I can't wait to hear it. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Vandor. Thank you, baby.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Undefeated, Pat. Undefeated, man. I'm not making your head bigger. I'm seriously, I love what you're doing. You're killing it. Man, I thank you so much. Good luck. Go win that Walter Payton Man of the Year. Anytime you want to come on here, you let me know. Okayton Man of the Year. Thank you. Anytime you want to come on here, you let me know.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Okay. And then the hair. Woo. He's a good dude. Yeah. Classic dude, man. Classic. About as good as they come. And everybody, the first time he was on the show, all anybody said was,
Starting point is 00:38:38 I don't want to listen to this because I would like to hate the Patriots. And he makes it very difficult to hate the Patriots. He's a free a free agent though and they just had a monster year on the defense side of the ball for New England normally you could tell if a team is good by when they cut a player if another team picks him up right so there for a while on our team we would cut a player and nobody would pick him up the Patriots cut a player that person has claimed on waivers the next day just know it's just like hey we trust Belichick enough that if he brought them in, there's a reason. He was in there, dominant there. He's going to the market.
Starting point is 00:39:09 There's going to be a lot of money out for a little legend out there. Film junkie, film rat, Fred Warner, who's a budding young linebacker, another BYU guy, loves Kyle Vannoy, said he's the reason. He's as good as he is now, and he's improved as much as he is because Vannoy's the guy who taught him, hey, you've got to watch film like this. That's what Vannoy does for a lot of the other guys around him.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Walter Payton, man of the year. Huge. That is something that says, hey, off the field, this guy. Stud just as much as he is on the field. Good for Kyle Van Noy. Welcome back to the Boom Booms. They're still going over there. I don't think there's a single human at the party
Starting point is 00:39:45 but they have been either testing the sound system to max or they've been having a party for just a couple people and if the couple people just rented the whole place out that's what i'm talking about honestly that's what i'm talking about we've we parked the plane there was more yachts and more big planes than I've ever seen in my entire life. Ever. There might be more money in Miami right now than any other city. Nah, Dubai probably. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:15 There's a lot of rich people here. And if two rich people just rented out this entire party and have them play max speakers, that's my favorite thing I've ever heard. And it could be happening. There's no one over there there's here's digs by the way digs just came into the conversation we are standing at the end of a two-time olympic length pool is that an accurate statement yes two-time olympic length pool we are in a place that we should not be people walking by that we don't know obviously palm trees everywhere and the boom booms next door are still pounding now i want to ask you one question
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Starting point is 00:42:40 with vinitieri for a long time he told me whenever he was up there that he knew you were going to be able to accomplish it. He knew you were good at that. When you did that drop kick, was there any panic or chance of you just completely shanking that off the back of a head and of offense alignment? It was a crap shoot, no doubt about it. The drop kick in the middle of that field was dirt and bunches
Starting point is 00:43:00 of grass and I had to find a nice smooth spot. I kept my fingers crossed because it could have gone anywhere Benetary actually was on the brink of breaking a record with the Patriots or maybe a league record yes and I kicked that drop kick at the last regular season point of the regular season he had to wait till the following year to break the record he wasn't very happy about it. It was a fun moment.
Starting point is 00:43:28 When I hit it, I knew I hit it solid and it was up and through and all that. But seriously, very good chance I could have gone anywhere. And it was the last play of my career. And if I missed that, my wife has to live with me the rest of her life. I would have been one frustrated person. That was the last time you stepped on a field right there? That was my last play.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You knew it going out there too, like this is it for me. This is the last one. I've had this legendary career in Canadian Football League. I've come over to the NFL. I've had fantastic things. I did great in college. It all comes down to the final taste in my mouth. Is this complete?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Now, granted, I'm a pretty good drop kicker but if you had to ask me to do it in the middle of the game i have no idea how it would go with the timing and everything it all comes down to this for your taste in your mouth forever i did not know that yeah and my wife's in the stand thinking the same thing she goes i'm gonna have to deal with this if he misses it she was the only one in stands that knew what was going on and i you know i realized i'm not gonna play in the playoffs. We've got Tom Brady. We've got Matt Castle was there at the time. And I wasn't going to play.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Brady's going to go win me a Super Bowl ring, hopefully. And she's up in the stands trying to explain to people. When she sees me jog out on the field, she knows what's going on. And she's telling her friends, oh, my God, he's going to drop kick. Oh, my God. What? What are you talking about? No way.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So it was a tense moment for her. Thank goodness Belichick told me like the two seconds before I ran on the field because we had practiced it to do it a couple of weeks earlier and ended up not doing it and hadn't even talked about it for two weeks. So it was very spur of the moment
Starting point is 00:45:00 and I didn't have time to get nervous. I just ran out and did it. Hey! Hey, we're happy for you. That's not easy to do. You're a stud for that. Now, let's talk about Tom Brady, who you just mentioned in there. Okay?
Starting point is 00:45:12 He's older. You played until you were older. I think you could still play right now if you had to. What do you think is a realistic expectation of Tom Brady here to finish out his career? I don't think he wants to end on a pick six. I don't think he wants to end on a bad taste in his mouth. He still is playing at a supremely high level.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I think Tom's got two or three years if he wants them. It's all in motivation. What motivates a guy at his age that has had the success he's had? For me, I'm still trying to prove people I can play at 57 years old. So that's why I played. I played until I was 43. That's why I kept playing as long as I did. Tom doesn't need that, but he still is driven.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And as long as he's driven, physically, it is not a problem. His arm is still there. The mental capacity gets stronger and stronger for him. And he still has that fire in him. And as long as that fire is there, he can play as long as he wants. I needed to play at 43 years old for me to be successful. I still had to be athletic. I still had to make people miss and move around.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Tom doesn't need you to do that. He needs his arm and stand in there. And he still has that. So the ceiling, I mean, he can play as long as he wants to play. But it comes down to how driven is he? Is the fire still there? And right now it is. The TB12 treatment.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I mean, I don't know if they have the Flutie Flakes in the TB12 lifestyle. But have you ever heard of anything like that? That's a Sunday morning routine on the have you done it that's a sunday morning routine on the tb12 routine the tb12 thing is something that has captivated the attention of a lot of athletes though this ability to have pliability in your muscles and your ph levels and then the food that you eat and all that stuff is that something that you mess around with when you played or did you just try to be i stopped at mcdonald's on the way to the facility i grabbed pizza at night but i i just figured i'm gonna eat what i want and i'll run an extra five miles i don't care i
Starting point is 00:47:14 was a workout nut but my thing was i didn't lift weights heavy i did very light lifting i lifted on my legs a little bit i ran hills walter pay Payton taught me to run hills when we were in Chicago together. That was my leg strength. I was about flexibility, pliability, and just staying loose and nimble. The extra 5 to 10 pounds of bulk were not going to save me from getting hurt from a 280, 300-pound guy. So I always wanted to be quick, light on my feet, and flexible. And it wasn't a science for me but i think things are geared that way now i think people that have all these injuries
Starting point is 00:47:50 i i agree with tom it's the flexibility especially as you get older which is much more important okay so you just mentioned a man's name there who's up has an award named after him for being a good human walter payton now you've been around the CFL, the NFL, all these legendary players. Who's one player that sticks out in your mind and you go, damn, that guy was a freak on the football field? Athletically? Yeah. Athletically, the first day, well, for me, in Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:48:21 Eric Moulds at wide receiver. It was crazy. To me, Eric Moulds was just, he got me to Pro Bowl. That's all I can say. E Moulds, he's one-on-one. He's getting the ball. I'm throwing to E. The other, well, I played with Walter right at the end of his career.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But Medanian Tomlinson came in as a rookie in San Diego, carrying the football. And he'd make guys miss in a phone booth. We were playing the Patriots. Two unblocked defenders coming through a hole in a simple dive play. He made a little jump cut, made a miss against the Patriots, up through a 64-yard touchdown run. His sheer ability to accelerate, make people miss, was crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:03 But for me, guys, I played with those of the two that stand out to me athletically. I should have done more research. You were in Buffalo, Chicago, the Chargers, New England, CFL, anywhere else? USFL, Donald Trump, New Jersey Generals, my rookie year.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That league lasted. Herschel Walker was my tailback Maurice Carthon at fullback Kent Hall, perennial pro bowler Was our center We had 15 guys on that team Go to the pro bowl later
Starting point is 00:49:33 I'm surprised Trump doesn't use that in his speeches now Let's start a league We have 15 pro bowlers It was fantastic Everybody's talking about Tom potentially leaving New England We have 15 pro bowlers. It was fantastic. Everybody's talking about Tom potentially leaving New England and going and playing somewhere else. And they're like, you know, the grass isn't always greener when you go to another organization.
Starting point is 00:49:54 You've played in three different leagues, different facilities, different organizations. Is there something to that thought that Tom should think about, or do you find respect everywhere? The number one thing is staying in the same offense for year after year after year tom has built on that you guys can come in you can line people up right away you can make adjustments on the fly you can see things on the field you can do things with terminology that just are instantaneous and a reaction
Starting point is 00:50:20 because you've done it before we did this this five years ago against Green Bay. We did this against – all that goes a long way to your comfort zone. If you go to a new team, new people, new terminology, it's starting over. And it's a nightmare. It's just very difficult. I bounced around a lot. That was my biggest frustration in my career was I couldn't stay in the same system for a long period of time and continue to build on things. And that is a big, big aspect of it.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And then you can go into a situation where the team is just not as talented and you don't even have an opportunity to win. Okay, so like for instance right now, Phillip Rivers is in Florida. He moved his family from San Diego to Florida. He wasn't willing to move to Los Angeles when he went to Los Angeles. But a lot of people are saying there's potential interest from the Buccaneers and Phillip Rivers that'd be a brand new offense it'd be a Bruce Arians offense is it is it going to be very difficult for these
Starting point is 00:51:11 quarterbacks who have all this experience in the NFL they've been there done that with everything Phillip Rivers hasn't won a Super Bowl but damn near everything else he's done it would it be that difficult to pick up a new offense at this later stage in his life you can pick it up there's a difference between knowing the offense and knowing your reads and then knowing it like the back of your hand and and being able to call on things instantaneously with the shot clock going down to three seconds on the plate clock and I want to change the protection and I want to get to a route because I see this or that, it's something you've done for 15 years. It's automatic to you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 You recognize things, and you know. Now you recall is, oh, let's get to the, what do we call that? Okay, we'll call it, and you're late. Or there's just that little bit of hesitation. It's just different. It's not to the same level. Got it. Mr. Felitti, we're in Indiana. I take frequent ships to South bend.
Starting point is 00:52:10 All they talk about is getting urban Myers as the head coach of Notre Dame. You have any insight into that? I don't. I think careful what you ask for. Uh, Brian Kelly has won 10 and what is it? Four years in a row with 10 wins, undefeated season playing for national championships, playing in the college football playoff just a year ago,
Starting point is 00:52:29 an 11-win season this year. And he had gone undefeated and got beat in the college football playoff a year ago and this year win 11 games. And I had somebody walk up to me in South Bend and say, when are we going to be good? I mean, only one team wins it all. I think he's done a phenomenal job. There's different challenges at Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:52:53 The academic requirements. Brian Kelly will not, and he said it to me this year, he's like, you know what, we used to bring in one or two kids that were marginal a year that maybe we could get in, but you spend 70 percent of your time trying to keep that kid eligible and fight putting out fires and trying to help the kid you spend 70 percent of your time with the one or two kids it's not worth it anymore they don't make that big of a difference for your program to have those so he just you know he's going with his quality kids that meet the recommendations and the requirements at Notre Dame. And,
Starting point is 00:53:25 and that's what you have. They still have elite athletes that, especially in the defensive line that go and top rounds and play in the NFL. They have that caliber of talent without having to deal with a lot of the issues off the field. All right, Doug, before we let you go,
Starting point is 00:53:39 where can I buy Flutie Flakes at? I'm a serial kid. Flutie Flakes.com. Yeah. We brought them out again this year. I up to buffalo it's phenomenal visit and uh we're jumping off the shelves again it's all for autism doug flutie jr foundation for autism so it's all to support that who's winning the super bowl this weekend team that scores the most points ladies and gentlemen greatest quarterback in cfl experience i'm a home guy i love spreading them out wheeling the deal i'm playing and uh there's just a lot of speed on that offense i know the pass rush is
Starting point is 00:54:11 great for san francisco that's the big matchup but i'll i'll go with casey ladies and gentlemen legend in the football world flutie flake creator doug flutie thank you doug thanks guys now joining us new head coach of the Washington Redskins a man who could have taken any NFL job after what he did for the Carolina Panthers the legendary riverboat gambler Ron Rivera boy I tell you with a build-up like that I better not screw it up well coach uh my first question thank you so much for joining us, by the way. Congratulations on the gig.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Why did you could have taken, I don't know if you know this, but the rest of the world knew this, you could have taken any job you wanted as a head coach because of how high revered you are by everybody. Why the Washington Redskins? Well, you know what's interesting, Pat, was one thing that I did as I got out of it in Carolina, in my press conference, I told folks, hey, look, I don't want to wait around. I don't want to pick a year off. I want out of it in Carolina. In my press conference, I told folks,
Starting point is 00:55:05 hey, look, I don't want to wait around. I don't want to take a year off. I want to get back into it. I love the game. The game's been outstanding to me. And I just feel I still have a lot to offer. And so as I was going through the process and reflecting, the opportunity with the Redskins came up.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And so I had an opportunity to talk to several people that knew Mr. Schneider. And a lot of positive things were said. And then I got connected with Joe Gibbs and coach Gibbs. And I spent some time on the phone talking. Then I had an opportunity to meet with Mr. Schneider. We talked about certain things. He told me, Hey, take a look at our roster. So I started breaking down their roster. I watched some game tape. Everybody I saw on tape, I wrote up. You know, everybody from the kicker to long snapper to punter. I want to make sure I got that in there for you.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And then I did offense, defense. But then I looked at the roster on paper, and I looked at how young that team was. I looked at the last three drafts and the success they had with those players. Those guys were playing a lot of football, and they're playing pretty good, pretty competitive. They worked hard at competing. They didn't win a lot of football games, but they were young guys that played. And I thought that that meant something.
Starting point is 00:56:13 But then after sitting down with the owner, talking about his philosophy on things, talking about his vision, the plan, the process, what he saw, what he thought. And then I shared my shared my outlook on things.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And we had a great conversation. When I finished with that, I went back and I met with Joe Gibbs. And everything I had talked about with Mr. Schneider, Joe was right behind 100%. We talked about that. And it made me realize that there's a fit there. There's a good fit. That's so interesting because now you know this the pr behind dan snyder is not always a good one i mean so i assume that you potentially had in
Starting point is 00:56:50 your mind like hey i don't know if i could do this and after meeting him you had a complete 180 is that accurate i did i had a complete 180 but also talking to several people that knew mr snyder on a more intimate basis people that had worked for for him, people that have worked with him, and people who didn't work with him, but from the outside in knew what was happening. And so it was just interesting to hear their perspective. It really was. And everything seemed to match up. I did not come across a negative person other than people that were with them 20 years ago,
Starting point is 00:57:20 15 years ago. What I heard was all the positive things that people have worked with them in the last 10 to five years. That's awesome to hear, by the way. Can't wait to see you succeed there. To succeed there, you're going to have to make a quarterback decision, right? Dwayne Haskins there played great football at the end of the season. They were giving people headaches.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Great teams, they were giving them real headaches. Alex Smith is coming back from an injury. You have the number two pick. You have a lot of big-time decisions to make. I assume you haven't been finalized on any of these, but which way are you leaning in that department? Well, the biggest thing is, and this is one of the philosophies that we carried into when I got to Carolina, and that was we had to ID who our franchise quarterback was.
Starting point is 00:57:57 We've got to be able to protect him with a positive offensive line and tight end that can help block. And we had to put playmakers around him. And so that was our plan going forward. Well, looking at what we have right now with the Redskins, the biggest thing we noticed, Dwayne showed some promise. He did a lot of good things as a young quarterback. He was a first-round pick.
Starting point is 00:58:15 It reminded me a little bit of our guy that we had in Carolina. Alex Smith, as you mentioned, potentially coming back off the leg. If Alex comes back and he's any semblance of the player he was in the past, we've got a good player there. We also have a good young developing player, which means they're going to create some competition. These guys are going to push each other, help them develop. Alex's history with Patrick Mahomes is outstanding, dealing with a young quarterback.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And we could get the same type of situation here. Again, hoping that Alex is healthy and can compete. You look at this draft, there's a lot of big names at the top, but it's also littered with very talented people. You have a very valuable pick there at number two. Do you see a lot of work needed to the Washington Redskins roster,
Starting point is 00:58:55 or will you take a shot on a big guy, you think? It's going to be interesting. Everything is on the table. I mean, we don't know what we're going to do with the number two pick. We know what's going to happen in front of us. Excuse me, we don't know what's going to happen in front of us. They've got to make a decision first, Cincinnati does, and then we'll go from there. So we're going to take a look at everything. We're going to break it down. We're going to interview players. We're going to scout players. We're going to go to their pro days. We're going to bring them out to see us.
Starting point is 00:59:19 We're going to go through the entire process, and we're going to weigh our options. Nothing is set. I mean, our roster isn't set, but I do like like who we have we've got a lot of quality football players that we think if we can add some more get them to buy into the way we want to do things have them believe in the system we have a chance coach i don't want to ask you about the rearview mirror but it's the last question before i let you go carolina panthers hire matt rule they have a massive decision to make down there with cam newton or do they go a different direction? From what you know of Cam Newton, how do you think he's going to respond and bounce back?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Well, I promise you this. If Cam's healthy and ready to roll, don't bet against him. Knowing Cam, as I've had for the last nine years, I would never bet against him. I just know that a healthy Cam Newton on the football field is a heck of a football player. Man, he's bigger than everybody, faster than everybody, and he's a maestro. We played you guys on Monday Night Football down there,
Starting point is 01:00:09 and he was basically controlling the entire state of Carolina. It was unbelievable. That's the one thing about him is he can orchestrate a game, and it's almost like he's playing Madden because he sees things. And the nice thing is we had given Cam the opportunity to do certain things, to make changes, to change plays, to create tempo if he had to. And, again, as I said, the one thing we hadn't had in the last two seasons was the healthy Cam.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Everything he's done, he had the procedure on the foot. The shoulder, he got to rest it all year because he didn't play after the second game. So, again, if he's healthy and if he's in the right state of mind, I would never bet against him. Coach, what are your thoughts on Luke Kuechly retiring? Well, you know, I had an opportunity to visit with Luke beforehand and just listening to him talk. It was one of those things where the right situation,
Starting point is 01:01:02 the right moment in time had come. He had battled through several injuries early on, and then a lot of his guys were leaving. There was a transition going on with the organization, so the timing for him he felt was right. Hey, I support him 100%. I really, truly do support him, and I'm very happy for him that he made the decision himself.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Is he going to be coaching with you here in a little bit, huh? Hey, you never know what's going to go on with him. I'll tell you this much right now. I know he's fishing and hunting right now. Coach, the Washington Redskins got a great head coach. We're all very happy for you to be back in the league. The league wasn't as good whenever you weren't coaching. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Congratulations, ladies and gentlemen, Ron Rivera. Thank you, man. Thanks, Pat. Appreciate it guys No problem See ya Good guy right there Good guy right there
Starting point is 01:01:49 Good hires Good hires He had Scott Turner as his OC My old radio partner Jack Del Rio As his defensive coordinator And you said it There's a lot of quality
Starting point is 01:01:56 He said there's a lot of quality guys In that roster That Haskins performance At the end of the year Was a lot better than I think I even thought it was gonna be Very interesting
Starting point is 01:02:03 That he compared Alex Smith and Haskins To Mahomes, thinking like, hey, maybe Alex is going to start. Yeah, that's what he said. He's a good player. If he's anywhere near there, they'll battle. Also, you get Chase Young. That changes things up quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:02:15 That's like a Bosa-level impact player. What if he would have just said, yeah, we're going to draft Chase Young? Yeah, he should have just said it right then and there. Like, Cincinnati gets Burrow. We'll take Chase Young. They've drafted really well in terms of quality defense players the last five years. Amen. They've got a good roster.
Starting point is 01:02:28 They're giving people headaches. Good for Ron Rivera. Thanks to him. All right. That's the show for the day. I can't thank you all enough for choosing to listen to this. It was a feel-good Friday. I know you don't have to listen to this show.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And the fact that you do, I appreciate muy mucho. If you liked the show, please tell your friends. If you didn't, okay, if you didn't like the show, just act like it never fucking happened. Alright, well, have a great weekend. Hopefully the greatest weekend of your life. The superb
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