The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1617 College Football Thursday - Lainey Wilson, Nick Saban, Shams Charania, Chase Daniel, Kayvon Thibodeaux

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

On today's College Football Thursday Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys have a STACKED show as college ball kicks off Saturday in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. County Music Superstar Lainey Wilson joins the show to reveal that she will be the celebrity guest picker for College GameDay and talks about her excitement to return home, the next chapter of her career and her husband, Pittsburgh Steelers legend Duck Hodges. Also joining the progrum is 7x National Champion and the GOAT Nick Saban to talk about this weekend, LSU, and his 6-part series titled ‘Saban’ coming to the ESPN app October 8th, Senior NBA Insider for ESPN Shams Charania to discuss the MASSIVE news that broke yesterday afternoon with the NBA handing the Los Angeles Clippers one of the largest punishments in league history. ESPN College Football and NFL Analyst Chase Daniel who’s on the call tonight for Colorado vs. Georgia Tech, breaks down the game itself along with LSU vs. Clemson, and what QB-Offensive Coordinator duo he’s looking forward to the most this NFL season, Indiana Football Head Coach Curt Cignetti reflects on last season after winning a National Championship and his outlook on this upcoming season as the team gears up for North Texas, then Kayvon Thibodeaux stops by on behalf of JP Morgan and Chase, and discusses everything with the New York Giants as he enters his 5th year with the franchise with a new staff and Head Coach Make sure to subscribe to ⁠youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow⁠ or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+.We appreciate the hell out of all of YOU, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Draft Kings Thunderdome. On this college football Thursday, September 3rd, 2006, this sports program begins now. Football! You know, it's a little bit of a thin thunder dome today as we celebrate college football week one kicking off in a massive way tonight on ESPN as Colorado and Coach Prime traveled down to Atlanta to take on Coach Key in Georgia Tech in week. one action that could potentially tell a story for the rest of the season, especially down there in the ACC.

Georgia Tech, they lose Haynes King. Obviously, he's a superstar. We appreciated what he did for our boost and our pick in that Hall of Fame game in the fourth quarter where he was running wild just like he did for Georgia Tech. So it's kind of a new era at Georgia Tech. And this is the Alberto Mendoza era. Oh, yeah. Yes, Fernando's little brother who got some time in the Big Ten championship whenever Fernando, in his words, got cracked, no pause from Caden Curry. Alberta Mendoza got some reps in there.

Now, Alberto Mendoza transfers from Indiana down to Georgia Tech. He'll be the quarterback this evening, and I'll tell you, I think he's a player. I think if he's anything like Fernando, he's obviously a little bit shorter, but I think he's very athletic. I think he's going to be good for this Georgia Tech team. And I also know the running back, Justice Haynes, 10 touchdown seven games for Michigan last year. Damn. Okay, got hurt. He's gone.

He transfers from Michigan to Georgia Tech. His dad, Veron Haynes, Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl champ. five-star recruit out of Alpharetta, Georgia, okay? Goes to Alabama first, then he goes to Michigan. Now he's back in Georgia at Georgia Tech in Atlanta. It's like, I don't know. I've been seeing, I love Coach Prime, maybe more than anybody else has a microphone in front of him

because how much he inspired me to be who I am as athlete and person. You know, there's a couple people in there that I grew up watching that I'm a huge fan of. I mean, Dion made everything awesome. On the microphone, on the field, on the football field, on the baseball field. then whenever you get into social media, like his words, I am a huge coach prime fan.

I haven't seen a lot of videos coming out of camp this year that are telling me that they're going to be able to tackle any of these guys. No. And it's a six and a half point game is what Draft Kings is saying down there in Atlanta. I believe last year they would not have covered if this was the spread, and they obviously had a Haynes King as their quarterback, so maybe that's what the sports books are thinking. For me, though, I'm pretty up on this Georgia Tech Team.

Not that I'm down on Colorado, but I am up on Georgia Tech, so we'll see how that goes this evening. They're not the only game. Missouri's playing the night. Can't wait to dive into it. Chase Daniel joining us in here in a matter of a few, I believe. He's on the call tonight for the Georgia Tech Colorado game. Then we got Idaho and Utah.

Utah always in the conversation late for the Big 12. Idaho, though, hey, don't be sleeping on the potatoes. Good program. Okay, they go wild potentially. So we got some potential implications. long-term starting this evening, and obviously we kick off college football week one that is going to be so outrageous. I cannot wait to get down to Baton Rouge. We'll be down there tomorrow getting ready for college game days, 500th Roadshow.

And right now there is a court case happening in Baton Rouge from our source says. Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference, Greg Sankey, is at this court appearance alongside the SEC lawyers in there, obviously, to fight. for the fact that anybody that signed up for a professional team and tried out and played for a professional team is not allowed to come back to college because of the five-for-five injunction. This particular class across the board of football, and then I believe there's some soccer and softball players that potentially missed the five-for-five injunction. They said they wanted to go pro. Then they found out that they could potentially redraw or withdraw that to go back to college because of a couple injunctions in courts around the country. So Baton Rouge, Louisiana is in the middle of the story because the injunction basically got a few football players back on the LSU Tigers there with Lane Kiffin. Very late, obviously very loud.

Pete Dammel has been sending us photos. No cameras or recording devices allowed in the courtroom. Good. But he did send a photo of the sign to outside of the courtroom. So like we're not able to get into the courtroom, but we can see that boom. It's that way. Courtrooms is right here. It's going right down here.

No, sorry, right down here. Mm-hmm. Full of the turn. Courtrooms that way. So right down that hallway there? Sanky's there. Stone cold, Greg Sanky walks in there. Push.

Bann... In there, in Baton Rouge, fighting against an LSU injunction, basically, in LSU's town, standing up for potentially the future of all college sports. Now, state judge and everything like that holds a lot of power. has held a lot of power for a long time in college sports as a whole.

The NCAA was very scared to kind of regulate anything because they would get sued. It would end up one of these courts. They would lose. So they decided that they don't have enough time to get sued on things. So they decided the only thing they can really regulate is like text messages in times where you're not allowed to text, the old school rules, cheese burgers, not allowed to be had at this particular time. But all of the money stuff, the employee stuff, the labor stuff,

they weren't able to touch because inevitably they get sued and they wouldn't be able to win. So that's why you saw eight, nine years, potentially of people playing college football throughout the COVID stuff. You've seen obviously a potential gambling on your own sport case get passed through and that. So there's really been no regulation by anybody because everybody's been scared to get sued and lose NCAA in particular. Then the Big 12 situation happens with Soresby at Texas Tech. Your mark, commissioner of the Big 12 kind of comes out and says, we ain't doing it. Not in our conference. Not in any of our towns.

is that allowed? Like a publicly bullying situation happens where all the teams all signed a vote said, hey, we all agree that this is not allowed. They're going to potentially pool games, maybe suspend if they happens. Then inevitably, Soresby and Texas Tech go their separate ways.

Texas Tech now moving on with a different quarterback. Soresby has to wait until next draft to get into the NFL. So there's been some regulation by a commissioner before, but it's never been somebody going into the courthouse and saying this is what it is. And if they win, that potentially sets precedent for every other commissioner to maybe regulate their own conferences. So there's a lot on the line.

And obviously it's all happening in Baton Rouge. Cannot wait to get down there. Toxic tables here at Boston Connor. And at Ton Diggs. AP Tone, good to see you. Great to be here. Fantastic cowboy hat. Thank you.

It's a lot out. Tonight six and a half point spread for the Colorado Georgia Tech game. Yeah. What are the spreads looking like for the first week at college ball? A lot of huge ones. A lot of very large spreads. A lot of blowouts potentially, but somebody's going to get got, right? Don't we think there's a chance somebody gets got out here?

Yeah, I think someone will get got. It happens every single year. But when you look at a ton, a ton, a ton of huge spreads, the games that aren't big spreads, you know, are your FBS on FBS situations. Baylor, Auburn, we're looking at up there, UCLA and Cal, U.S. and Louisville, like SMU and Florida State. Those are some of the shorter ones. And obviously tonight, Colorado and Georgia Tech. But there's a lot of big spreads out there. There's a lot of turnover in college football.

obviously season to season. So when you're looking at these, you know, be careful because the team that you bet on last year is not the same team as this year. So maybe, you know, I don't want to say treat it as like a preseason, but maybe don't put your max units on these week one games unless you have a really good feel. Maybe let's see these teams for a couple of weeks before we really, really get deep into weeks. Yeah, because I think there's a chance of some coaches don't even know who their teams are. Exactly. Joining us now live from an attic in Ohio is a college football national champion. Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke.

Yeah. Hockey. Coach football, week one, AJ, let's go. Yeah. I mean, do you think there's any other sport or level to where coaches really aren't sure what they're going to get week one more than NCAA college football right now? I think at someplace, Oklahoma State has 91 new players. Damn. 90.

91. That's the record. That's like you're starting over from scratch, basically. That's like, hey, we just started a football team. A lot of people reference Prime whenever he went to Colorado. Remember the luggage line? He's bringing his own. I think it was like 80-some transfers, like 83 or something like that.

They're up over 90. So from North Texas, coach transfers in. I think he brings a lot of his guys. Obviously, a lot of Oklahoma State people leave. But 91 new players in locker room. I mean, if you want to rebuild a culture, change a culture immediately, you can do that just by bringing a bunch of people who have no idea what the place is. Have no idea to get to a restaurant.

I have no idea to get gas. have no idea where to eat, have no idea where the wait room is. But hell yeah, we're here to win some football games. It's really hitting a restart button that you could have never done in the past because it used to be if you take a guy scholarship, like you're never going to get a recruit from that entire city ever again because it was such a bad thing. Now it's like, hey, you know, there's a portal waiting on you.

I think, you know. Yeah. And then it's 91 new guys are coming in. We would like to replace this whole place. Think about the 14 guys, right? Because 105 on the roster. 14 guys are like, we are kind of the... Shout out of out of here.

We understand what it used to be like. There's not a lot of us left anymore. Obviously, we ran us out of town, but we are still here. College football is the most chaotic, awesome thing that's absolutely going. AJ, this weekend, the first college game day of the season, the 500th roadshow for the institution that is the phenomenal college game day. show live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the epicenter of all the buzz of college sports as a whole right now. And at the end of every single college game day is the picks. And there's good picks

and there's bad picks. But there's always a celebrity guest picker. It is our honor to say that the celebrity guest picker for the 500th Road Show in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, to kick off the biggest and best season yet. Ladies and gentlemen, none other than a Grammy Award winning. What? Grand old opera member having. What? Football wife.

Why? Ladies and gentlemen, Lainey Wilson. Bad Andrew. Appreciate that, Pat. Hey, not bad. You know, I'm just trying to keep up with you out here. You know, you and Duck have been inspiring me because I'm thinking, And always, every time I leave my house, I go, you know what this is for, it's for Jesus,

it's for Jones, it's for mom, okay? And then I got my phone, keys, my wallet, and then duck. Right, that's where we're pointing. Is that what it is? Hey, you know what? I think you might know the dance better than he does. I've been watching him fail for a couple months at this entire thing, but we do love the way he played football, and we love the way you two operate.

And I love the fact that you're our first celebrity guest picker of the year. I love that you know ball and I love that you love Louisiana. Can you tell me a little bit about this and what your kind of thoughts heading into Saturday morning are? Well, I'm fired up. First of all, I'm just fired up to go back home.

I cannot tell you the amount of fun that I have had at LSU football games. So we are planning on just letting it all hang out because that's what Louisiana folks like to do. So I'm just, I'm fired up. I mean, it's just, it's a good time of the year, you know? I mean, it's just, speaking of good times, dude, that song. Lainey, hey, don't be saying that.

They're going to kill you for saying that it might be okay. Well, I just want to say I've been jamming out this morning, and that is one of my favorite ones on the record. I'm not going to lie to you. Okay, thank you all. Okay, okay. Let's keep it. Hold up.

There's another one. I got to say, I know we're getting off topic, but I love oops too. Okay, all right, hold on. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Laney, Grammy Award winner, Grand Old Operate, Amendment. Okay, let's move along. Okay, let's not talk about that. Okay.

This is about you and Game Day. having an incredible start of the season because let's talk about the musical. I think we're going to get some performances by Lany Wilson on Saturday as well. Is that accurate? You are, but I can't tell you what they are because that's going to be a little surprise. Hey, listen, just know that I'll have the Jesus Jones, Mom, Cajon keys, won't you if you need it. AJ has a question for you about Saturday. Yeah, Lany, are you anxious at all about making all the picks?

Obviously, you've got to pick more than just the big game that you will be on premises for. but like, yeah, what's your process like? I would assume Duck is helping you out a little bit. Duck is helping me out. I've been doing my studying. I've been going to the Lord. I have been, honestly, I've been like pulling up some stats. I was with Duck and Hardy last night,

and they were giving me some of their opinion. So I'm doing my research. I'm going to have my own thoughts and my own picks, but I am doing my research. Okay, Ms. Laney, you need to know you can write notes. Definitely write notes. We all have them. Okay.

Right. We all have them up there. So I can bring my journal. Yes. Obviously, not too much because you're just going to want to look down and like little reminders, but don't think that you shouldn't have some sort of notes up there. We all will have them. So like, I think that's money.

Yeah. Okay, good, good, good. Because there's some of those games where there's actually 91 new players on the team. So like trying to remember everything that you would want. Like, we're not even able to do that at this point of the season. So don't be scared to take your notes up there. You will not look like you don't know what you're talking about. And I think you need to know, whatever pick you make, the right one.

I'm going with my gut. That's how I do most things in life, whether it comes to writing music, releases, whatever it is. I go with my gut. So that's probably what it's going to be mainly based off of. Tell me about music right now. Where are we? Are we writing right now? We're recording.

We're touring. What do you got going on? We're doing it all. We just got finished with a Chris Stapleton tour, which was so much fun. I mean, there's just nobody like Chris Stapleton. and we've been doing lots of fairs and festivals this year, and we're just getting fired up for the next chapter. I'm ready to turn the page, and we're about to be turning to page.

I like us, turn to page. Let's go to the next page of the book, which has obviously been incredible alongside Quang, Wank, Wank, Wank, Duck. We appreciate how much you love Duck. We don't let you know that. Because we are very appreciative. We think Duck's one of the most hilarious professional athletes in the history. Yep.

He's a hoot. Yeah, not only a hoot. His career with the Steelers was like very successful, very good times. Great times. Like maybe. And you know what? Pat, I was not around for that time. So this is all, this is all hearsay.

You know, every now and then he'll pull up his YouTube page. I'm like, okay, I just, I need proof. Yes. I love to hear that. Oh, that is incredible that that's the way you talk to Duck. You just Grammy Award winner right there. The Grammy just sits up on the dinner table. Hey, yeah, you had a good Monday night, didn't you, Duck?

Yeah, I remember that. Good completion, good throws. He was not. He was awesome. And obviously you still hear him on that quacker, right? He is the greatest duck caller ever exists. And I assume you get to hear that. I say I'm the best duck caller ever because I get to say, hey, duck.

That was clever. Tone has a question for you, Lannie. Yeah, Lany, you talked about having fun at LSU games. And everyone talks about LSU Death Valley at night. What can we expect the blood alcohol content of the, majority of LSU fans to be on Saturday night? Oh my gosh. I'm just saying we need to be lifting them up right now.

We need to be lifting them up. I know myself, I'm going to be having a good time. I told you all earlier, I was going to be letting my hair down, and I have a feeling everybody in the stadium is going to be doing the same. So I look forward to, of course, watching the game, but also doing a little bit of people watching. Yeah, I'm excited to get down there and everything you're saying right there. I'm excited to do that.

The only time I'd ever been down there, I just heard about this song And I don't Maybe I don't know if you're singing it or not I think I'll be AJ do you know what the song is I'm talking about Can you start it out for me a little bit Well it goes hey

I'm worried that What's the what do they say after that Are you supposed to be doing that? That is the song From my understanding It's just that part of it Oh I thought they say something after that Oh I thought there's a little bit more

That's it That's it okay I thought that was it All right, so we're all on the same page. I'm excited to get down there. Laney, thank you so much for letting us be a part of the announcement of you being the celebrity guest picker. And also, I can't wait to watch you perform. I've never been to a Lainey concert. I saw you at the ACM Awards.

It was outrageous how talented you are. I saw you at the Grand Ole Opry. You're so talented. I can't wait to watch you do your thing and get the perfect picks at the end. Thank you, Fran. I'm ready. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a Grammy Award winner. Lainee Wilson.

Yay, Lady. You see, duck caller, she just calls him. That was good. I liked that a lot. Yeah, that was great. I thought that was pretty clever. You know, because a duck call, I guess you do have to judge by the sound on whether or not it's a good duck call.

Now, and if the duck call works as a care if it doesn't sound as perfect as a potential, this is a whole competition. People need to notice. Okay, I don't think everybody knows this. Duck Hodges, Devlin Duck Hodges. That's the guy. who let everybody know that they need to register to vote. That's right.

He is a famous moment. He did more for politics than pull. Anybody maybe in history. In history. Former starter for Pittsburgh Steelers, almost let him do a playoff. He is a world-renowned duck caller at these duck contests. Not just state fairs.

I think they're doing this in a bigger way. If you need a duck pulled from the sky, if you need a duck to think that another duck is down there on the ground, you give this guy one of them, and he will get any duck. He's got different languages of ducks. Is he better than... Riley Duckman?

So I brought this up to Devlin Duck Hodg. Yeah. And I said, Riley has Duck Man right there on his shit, you know? And his bar is called Duck Blind. Feels like he might be... He said, his name is what? I said, Duckman right there. He goes, I'm just Duck.

And I was a great answer. Yeah. That is a phenomenal answer right there. Elanian Duck. seemingly in just a hilarious just a little of his story who duck Hodges

yes yes as a whole duck is legend club country he's also got a golf thing you think going right now I think good for him a little real estate I think he's doing yeah he's in there bro he's awesome love that that's great vibes I can't wait to get down there to Baton Rouge a man

who's won a national championship down there will also be a huge talking point I think to everything happening around the LSU Tigers right now ladies and gentlemen the greatest of all time former head coach at Alabama, LSU, Michigan State, Miami Dolphins. Cleveland Browns.

Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Saban. Hey, hey, good. Hey, guys, how you doing, Pat? Did I miss any there? Did I miss any there? Toledo, I think, but that's okay. When you move as much as I did, you can't expect everybody to remember every stop.

No, I think you're, with people like you, we're supposed to. Yeah, so let's just say. I think for everybody else, maybe not, but for people like you, I think people like me are supposed to know. That's why I apologize for missing the Rockets. And, you know, Kent State could have had them too. He was an alumni graduate. They just didn't want it to happen.

Maybe some other time. Maybe later in life. Coach, let's talk about this documentary coming out this year. Obviously, we'll talk about what's happening in LSU here in a couple of days now. We're kicking off the season tonight in Atlanta, and this is going to be spectacular. It's going to be an honor to be alongside of you. But this documentary, I remember they teased it. last year, it's dropping here very soon.

How do you feel about the entire process and what do you think people are going to take away from it or hope they take away from it? Well, a lot of people wanted me to write a book and I wrote a book, I don't know, in 2003 after we won the national championship at LSU. And, you know, the guy that was supposed to write the book, I spent three months giving them information and then, you know, I said, this is not a lot. about me. So I had to go back and rewrite the whole thing. So instead of writing a book, I thought maybe letting people do a documentary would be something that would actually be more telling for people

to understand sort of the process of things that we went through that helped us be successful, as well as, you know, all the people who contributed to that, because there was a ton of people, good people that really made it happen for us. So, you know, I haven't seen this yet, so I'm kind of anxious to see how it comes out. But I hope it's a tribute to all the players and coaches and people and organizations and administrators who created an atmosphere and environment

where we could have success, and I think they deserve a lot of credit. Yeah, and I assume there'll be a lot of light shined on a lot of people who've done a lot of great work, including the lovely Miss Terry, who we all are a huge fan of. I assume it will spotlight her roles and all of these types of things

in the building and the recruiting and stuff like that. But I want you to know, it's going to be cool to learn even more about you. And I think you listening to the people that you affected talk about you, I hope you take those flowers in, you know, because I know you're a big,

yeah, next thing, next thing, next thing. I hope whenever you hear all these people from so many different backgrounds, okay, and they had their lives changed by you, I hope you take that in. And I hope you really settle in the fact that the good old West Virginia boy did very well with this life. And we are lucky and thankful that we get a chance of

bullshit with you every single week. October 8th that comes out. We'll certainly be watching. Let's talk a little bit about this weekend. LSU. Hey, you've been in the middle of all this, okay, with the Protect College Sports Act. I think they did right in trying to recruit you to be a part of that. We just saw the PSA that you just put out about needing to pass this and saving college sports.com. I believe people can go and hopefully help us get some guardrails and regulations in this. But Sanky showed up at the courtroom today. We just found out. Sankees down there with the SEC, battling against the Louisiana folks about the injunction about pro players. Then there was a Sorosby case.

It feels like it is pretty chaotic. Are we anywhere near having an answer, you think, Coach? And how do you kind of view what's happening in Louisiana right now and how it affects potentially going forward? Yeah, well, I think, you know, we obviously need some guard brails in college athletics, especially in football and basketball, where, you know, you have so much revenue. and now people are making, you know, money, and it's become pretty much of a business, but we really don't have any guardrails. And just like this whole situation with the, I mean, just think, Pat, five or ten years ago,

or even when you played in the league, I mean, it was not even anything that could ever be a thought in your mind that a pro player would come back and play college football. I mean, it was like unfathomable. And, you know, now, This should be okay. We have some rule or some law somewhere in some state that I should be able to get cut, even though I decided to become a pro. I got paid some money for it.

Now I can go back to college employee. Crazy. I mean, it's absolutely crazy. But we have this happening in multiple transfers. We have it happening in guys that are 26 and 27 years old competing against 18-year-olds. I mean, we have all kind of issues that. need to be addressed. And I think antitrust legislation and making it law from a federal standpoint is the only way that you can do that.

Now, if I was LSU, I'd be very careful about how I proceed here because they may win this case in Louisiana, but if people keep appealing it, it may get changed down the road, and they may have consequences relative to that. So sometimes you can win but also lose in the end. And I don't want to see that happen to LSU and I don't want to see it happen to the lane. So I hope this all gets resolved in a way that we can move forward without creating issues. Many folks have won battles while losing the entire war in the past

and haven't been able to see the whole forest through the trees. There's a bunch of those types of quotes that are cliche, but it's real about what the long-term effects could be of this all. Now, I guess because it's only this class, There is some stuff, and it's not just football, even though football's getting a big spotlight. There's some soccer, there's some softball, there's basketball problems they're having. And I appreciate the fact that you've been willing to say, like, all right, I'll dab on a world that I don't want to really be into politics world to try to get something done to save all of college sports, women's sports, Olympic sports, football sports. But what we do know is whenever that gets passed, you should get celebrated.

But once we get past this and the game start, let's go. And I think that's how we're all kind of feeling about Saturday getting started. is certainly a great kickoff to it all, as we have Colorado and Georgia Tech leading the way here, and it's going to be a great game on ESPN. But Saturday, game day, Saturday morning down there in Baton Rouge. I was down there once. It was absolutely absurd, obviously.

It was an insane morning, and then obviously it led into an insane series of events down there in Baton Rouge. What are you expecting from Saturday morning for the first college game day of the year? And then what do you expect in 730 Eastern, wherever this ball kicks off? LSU, I mean, they got a first time Clemson's not ranked. LSU obviously in the news for a lot of things. Most talented transfer portal, Lane Kiff can win with anybody.

I mean, it just feels, doesn't it? It feels very heavy that LSU favored by 10. Maybe they win by 100 points. Dabo's pretty good football, coach. Is he not? Like, what do you kind of think going into the game and how all this affects it, coach? Well, first of all, let me sort of speak about the passion. I've been on both sides of this passion,

winning a national championship there, getting patted on the back, seeing New Orleans and the Sugar Bowl go completely crazy when we won in 2003. And then when I came back there in 2008, I think, or seven or whenever it was, having every bottle, every can't that you could ever think of, getting burned in effigy. So I've seen both sides of the passion. But what I would say about this game in particular is the people will be very passionate. they're very excited.

Lane's created a lot of excitement, rightfully so. He's a good coach. He's got a great chance to do great things for LSU and in the state of Louisiana. And we're certainly rooting for them because we have a lot of good friends in Louisiana. But at the same time, I think they've done a lot to revamp the roster.

They have 53 new players on their theme. I think that's about right. But there's also 53 guys that aren't there anymore. So you lose them on the back end and people don't talk about that much. So that can affect the depth of your team. And whether they have enough depth on their team to be a real contender, I think remains to be seen.

But I do like their team, and I think they're going to be better than people think. But at the same time, I also think Clemson is going to be a lot better than they were. I think they've got a lot of returning players. I think they were young last year. I think they've got a little more maturity as a team. And I think Dabo is a really good coach.

I think changing offensive coordinators, having a new offensive coordinator. I know he has a new quarterback. But they have really good players, I think, in some critical positions, especially on defense and at the receiver core. So I do think they'll be a lot better. Yeah. And can they protect the quarterback? I mean, that is the big question.

Can Vezina stay on his feet? If he can, WESCO and more can eat, you know? And now granted, LSU's secondary is unbelievable. I think they were number one in the SEC, so it's not just going to be as easy. as you think it would, especially with the amount of talent that the two wide receivers certainly have. But I think this is going to be a game, man, especially with all the jitters that could potentially be coming from everybody. 53 new people down there at LSU.

They're playing down, you know, Death Valley for the first time as well, 7.30 prime time. And then you talk about Clemson having to go in their first game. That's a daunting place. That is a certainly daunting place. Okay, last question here. As we know, you're in the middle of an incredible Thursday over there, a couple of days removed. And we appreciate you joining us here instead of Friday because we are off tomorrow. So tone is a question about a headline that just hit the internet.

Yeah, Coach, saw Alabama defensive coordinator, Kane Womack came out and he was talking about how he picked your brain this offseason and said that you guys don't see eye to eye on everything, but you know, you do agree on a lot of stuff and maybe, you know, playing more man-to-man in the secondary this year with one of the most talented secondaries in the entire country. How cool is it still to be able to talk ball at Alabama? And I'm not saying influence what they do, but just be a part of it.

And then what are also your thoughts on the decision to go with quarterback Keelan Russell, who I believe is the highest rated recruit that they've ever gotten at Alabama? Yeah. Well, you know, first of all, I love talking ball with anybody that wants to talk. And a lot of people, you know, call me. And, you know, we get the opportunity to do that, which I think is good. You know, Kane has come over several times and we talk about things. You know, I, Kirby, myself, some of the other guys are really.

real, you know, like split safety man to man is a lot different than middle of the field, man to man. And I think it's a little safer. I still think you can get good run support out of split safeties. So, and that's the thing that Kane has not done a lot of, but I think he wants to add to things that he wants to do in the future, which I think could be beneficial and take a little bit of pressure off the secondary because you put a lot of pressure on the corner when you play middle of the field coverage. And those guys are out there on an island playing man to man. And they have good corners.

So, you know, the corners put the sort of limitations on your defense, and I don't think they're going to have any limitations on theirs, and I hope they do play more man-to-man. So Keel and Russell, on the other hand, I think this guy's very talented. How ready he is to play, I can't really speak to that, but I think the guy's very talented. I do think that the big question for Alabama is going to be, again, how have they fixed the offensive line. How is that going to impact the quarterback position? But I do know that Keel and Russell was probably the best guy they have to be able to be a playmaker and make plays when things break down and are perfect, which may be really important for Alabama's offense

this year. We saw Ty Simpson get ragged all around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was running for his life a good bit. You know, Pat, I wanted to comment on something you said before about, you know, Tiger stadium. And one of the issues that when I first became the coach at LSU, there was so much passion and so much energy and enthusiasm for games, I sometimes thought that the players just took it for granted that when they played at home, things would go the way they wanted them to go. And a couple times early on when I was there, they didn't go very well. I mean, we lost a UAB or something. And I think the players just took it for granted that we're playing at home. It's a great atmosphere. It'll affect the other team and we'll win.

I actually put a sign up in a locker room that said it's not Tiger Stadium. It's not the atmosphere in Tiger Stadium. It's the Tigers in the stadium that make a difference. So I wanted the players to know that they still had to impact the game and play, you know, high quality football. If they were going to have a chance to be successful, and that the crowd was not going to make any plays in the game and that we needed to be responsible for making those plays. And I know when there's this kind of hype for a game like there is for this Clemson game, Lane's first game,

New Era, all that kind of stuff. I hope that does not impact LSU's team. You're the best, coach. We appreciate the hell out of you. See you this weekend, Dunham, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. National Champions seven times. I do appreciate somebody coming in and say, we don't agree on some things.

It's like, well, maybe you should. Uh-oh. Yeah. Thanks, gentlemen. That's Coach Nick Sey. Hey, Coach. I get it. You got an ego, too.

Guy won seven national champions. Low on Bama's defense this year now. He's regarding. No, no, he's trying to learn. He's trying to add it. Sure. We disagree. As soon as I read that, I was like,

what's going on? Why are we doing this? Why do we, he's the greatest small time to field that you walk on is literally this guy's And oh yeah, he works with the secondary. That's like his... It's like his entire thing. We disagree on some stuff. It's like, all right.

Good luck, dude. Okay, why? Why? This feels like it's a right answer, you know? But that is, just like we said about Kalin DeBoer, I mean, you're in Coach Sabin's building. You know, it's literally named after him. You got to create your own path.

They have a great opportunity this year. First time I'm not ranked in the top 10 long time. If they have success and get going, that fan base and crowd are going to obviously fall on. in love with him. And I think Saban's done a really good job as saying like, hey, this is their thing, not my thing. I'm here just to assist. You got that little goat shadow

just on the field and from the top where the office is. So to be able to operate in there's obviously not easy. So I'm not going to act like that's an easy thing, but I'm not saying publicly many times that I disagree with the greatest of all time. I think that is you should probably try to get in his pocket see what he's doing

and maybe figure out that out. But on that note, not easy to be there, I assume, AJ. No. No, I would just put myself in Kayland DeBore's, thinking if I was at Alabama on the sidelines, you're in the fourth quarter, it's winding down, you know you're going to lose a game and savings like up in the box. Like that would be a horrendously terrible feeling.

I was there. Just knowing, oh, yeah, you've been there for, I don't know if they've lost, but you've been there for some of it. Who was it? Texas Day lost, too. Was it Texas down there? Right? Right. What did it is the? We were on the sideline for that. Yeah. His field. Was it Texas? I thought it was Vandy, maybe. Maybe Vandy. I don't know whatever it was. Got a chance to go sit in his box, stand in his box,

while watching the game. He got the field named after him, I believe. And it was like, and anyone's the college football Hall of Fame. It was like a big, hey, coach Saban's here, the place went crazy. Got to go sit in his suite, watch him kind of do it. The other team scored and him standing up and literally just like kind of, all right, okay, stretches back, then just kind of walks over, goes grab something, comes back, sits back down.

Ms. Terry's just right next to him. Okay, then something bad happens that he hates, like somebody was left wide ass open, and he just like stands up. Like you could see he is still literally coaching the team. I think he's trying to respect everything, obviously, especially whenever he's on game day, because that's huge platform for college football. Anything he says that could be perceived as a slight

towards a decision that Kalin DeBoer or anybody at Alabama has made, they're going to blow that up, say that there's a problem. You know what I mean? And Alabama fans will literally walk behind Coach Sabin right into a fire. If that is what Coach Sabin said we should be doing, that's what they will do for him because of what he did for the city. And obviously he feels the same way about them, still has house, still live, you know, that entire thing.

So he has to be, obviously, Kailin Dabor has to be very mentally tough. But he has to be so cognizant every single time, understanding what his words could potentially do to the entire culture of the team that they're trying to build there. I think he would like Kailan Dabor to be very successful. Oh, yeah. I think he would like that to not be a conversation piece every single week, because I think he really cares about the Alabama football program as a whole.

Yeah, and I feel like DeBore, I get the whole. like you don't want to do the exact same things, but the D.C. thing makes no sense. Like if you were to go back, like Nick Saban's thing, sure is being Nick Sane, but it's winning. So if you were to go back and look at Nick Saban's defense, like his defense was always good. He learned, you know, secondary with Bill and Cleveland and going from there. And also, like that's part of being in a tree. We talk about now in the NFL, like, oh, all these offenses are built from McVeigh or from Shanahan or wherever the hell it's from defense, the same thing. Like you think Kirby Smart went to Georgia and he was like, hey, we got a completely. change our defense because this is what Nick Saban ran. I can't just run the same thing. Like that's the one thing about the D.C. that just doesn't make much sense. That's who you should be asking, getting the most information from and running the stuff that they were running, even though maybe you don't see it the same way. But as far as like DeBoer, it does feel like they're on their way. I think so. The fact that they got the highest recruit in the history of Bama at quarterback nonetheless, not like wide receiver, Julio Jones, all those guys

are an O-Liam and D. Lyman guy in the secondary, anything like that, but they got the quarterback now. And they have three years of that. That's massive. Yeah, the one thing they need to figure out which coach Saban talked about is the offensive line. They have four new starters, I believe on there. And they were like 120th in yard per rush last year. They could not run the ball to save their lives. So that'll be interesting to see how they attack that with who second year. Ryan Grub is back with DeBore in this situation. But also for as far as like number one recruiting or whatever, the last three classes for DeBoer have been like number two, number three, and number three. So they're still getting guys.

He's getting his guys in. So that could make a big difference this year, too. What if Kellyan DeBoer and Alabama does it for the SEC? You know, three times the Big Ten has started the season and ended the season as national champions in a row. Three different schools. They don't talk about the depth of the Big Ten enough. The SEC has the depth. Well, I don't know.

Big Ten's three deep on national championships in the last three years. Can the SEC do it? Or will the Big 12 potentially produce an absolute monster that's beating? Well, how about the AC? I don't think we got to worry about them, but the ACC. Tech's got a chance. Texas Tech is the team? Yes, they certainly have a chance.

Well, the Big 12 has got a lot of teams, BYU, Utah. You've got a lot of teams that potentially have a chance. Utah also defensive-minded coach now. D.C. stays up there. They're going to lock that thing down. Big Bear up there in BYU. He's only getting bigger stronger. Absolutely.

Warrant Fahman. out there, hopefully still. Their coach, awesome. Yeah, exactly. And I trust Cody Campbell and Joey McGuire to put together a roster no matter what happens in other way. So Texas Tech is going to be,

you start talking about the depth of Big 12 and then you add in, oh, yeah, West Virginia is about to go absolutely crazy. Quick question, AJ, as you make that face. I don't like the smirk on your face. Yeah, what's up? Must be nice at the top. Dickhead.

Yeah, gay people. Not in the top 10 for the first time. It's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, let's see if we can reach the top 35 here, and I think we certainly can. Tone, what was Arizona State's odds at the beginning of the season whenever they won the Big 12? It was two years ago. I believe they were like plus 10,000 to win the Big 12 before they went on their run with Sam Levitt. The boys.

Okay, so follow up. Now, what is West Virginia's odds right now to win the Big 12? Plus 5,300, I believe. Oh, is that right? Half a bad. What is that, AJ? We know you're about to, you probably already made this bad, didn't you? Yeah, found out about this thing yesterday by touchdown.

Tone. Tone said, hey, I just want to, as you, because, you know, this weekend on Game Day, obviously running through subjects that are going to be brought up, you know, conversation pieces, say, hey, what's happening? Have your stuff ready. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Me and Tone hitting the, I'll tell you what, hitting the Internet, hitting the, had books out yesterday, flipping through pages of books. You know, had this entire thing. At the library? Yeah, magazine, I guess, big, thick magazines more so than anything else. So, you know, we're trying to get in there. It's been a lot of that this week as we get back into college game day. and then all of a sudden, tone goes, hey, to your West Virginia winning the Big 12 thing,

Arizona State plus 10,000 two years ago, they won it. West Virginia, plus 5,200 or something like, that tells me. Very doable. We're doing it. Take a flyer. What was Duke's chances to win the ACC last year? Does anybody care that Duke won the ACC last year? Yeah, everybody knows they won it, too.

Exactly. Hey, there's a bunch of fun facts about who won what. All we know is Miami almost didn't even get into the golf football playoff, and then they ended up in the national championship. They feel like they're even better. And they get the ACC champion quarterback to come down there. And they have another year of experience with that guy, Malachi, Tony. It might be up for the Heisman this year if they continue to utilize him

the way he was utilized last year. We know their defense is going to be stat and physical. We know Chris Ball is going to go absolutely crazy. The ACC, I mean, if Clemson, you know, if Clemson, no way, right? No way. What? They win? They're pounding.

Big of dogs, are they? 10. I'm not a... Man, it's gonna... Imagine going in there and getting a win to start the season with everything surrounding. It's going to be a wild atmosphere. Yeah, it is going to be absurd down there. Can't wait to get there. Thank you college football for doing it.

The field goal kicking is easy contest is up. Okay. Let's go. We are doing that. Potentially... Uprights are there. Potentially the biggest season yet. Okay.

Yeah, like for the field. goal kicking, excited for some news for that one on Saturday morning as we roll that out. Very pumped and excited about that. And I assume that Louisiana is going to produce some incredible kickers for said contest. It's going to be a big number to start season. Remember, season goes up. So I have, make it a 55-yarder.

So I don't know if we're going to have the ability to change that completely because just, you know, room in places. But I do think we should back it up maybe to 40-5. 40 yards. But 33 is where it will remain at the time being. And I'm already getting videos from people that are saying they're preparing for future stops. You know, hey, this is in my part of the country. So people are preparing to try to get there because obviously it's first 300 people get a ticket.

Then that ticket is randomly pulled. And whenever it's pulled, that is the winner. And then you have, there's new rules that you have like a one minute or two minute, three minute period to figure out who if you're having somebody, you got to do that now. If you're doing it, you got to do it now. Everything has to be happening now. but we're back up and running. I'm very excited for that.

And also pumped up for Pat White. The number five is officially being retired in Morgantown this weekend before kickoff. Congratulations to Pat White. Go, Pat. This is a jersey. I believe it's an NIL store throwback Pat White jersey here. That's filthy. Yeah, it is.

That is sick. Yeah, it's awesome. That's going to crush it, Frat House's Donna. Yeah, it should, honestly. Actually, anywhere. We tell the Frat Boys, Donner, Frat Row. a couple lads. Yeah.

Because I think this is NIL towards Pat. I think Pat is also doing that as he's coaching the West Virginia Mountaineers as well. If NIL would have been around, this guy potentially owns state of West Virginia, at least part of it for what he did for the state. I was very lucky to be teammates with him. I got a chance to watch his entire career from behind the scenes

and obviously on the sidelines. He and I obviously I would either punt or kick a field goal. So we are crossing paths every single series, basically. Great times, great relationships, great leadership. I mean, an absolute great football player. And I think it's a great decision by West Virginia to retire the five. We've been pounding that drum for a little bit now. You know, hey, four bowl games.

They were the two, him and Steve Slayton on the NCAA games. Primetime football Thursday nights. We had the highest ratings before NFL went. It was all because this guy was driving the ship. He was the most electrifying player I had ever seen. And he would take over game any moment. And he would also lay the wood. I mean, a lot of people remember him getting hit,

which certainly happened because he was a running quarterback and everything like that. But he's decleaded a couple people, too, for Steve Slayton or Noel Devine whenever they were running. He's just classic football player. Also got drafted, like, five times to play professional baseball, stayed committed to football, and then he tried baseball a little bit,

got into the minors. and then decided it wasn't for him. Then he started coaching it's like, I'm happy for him. I'm proud of him, man. Legit. Okay, let's pivot away from college football with chaos happening this weekend and in courtrooms in Baton Rouge.

And let's go to the NBA. It has some chaos. Uh-oh. Now, since we have learned of this character, Steve Balmer, we've known that this guy's a little bit of a wild car. This guy might have a little dip in his chip. This guy has got some real pizzazz. Here's him whenever he was with Microsoft.

$1,000 question for the field. What is the most asked question that I've received this week? Sideburns. What the hell are we supposed to do about dot net, Steve? It's a very good question. And it's got a very clear answer. Developers. The key to dot net, the key to industry transformation, the key to success is developers.

developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers is up there yes yes yes yes i'm just an absolute madman you know that is that is a nerd event there where you know a leader of said super geniuses is up there sweating his ass off doing the things he's doing presenting to develop he's juicing up developers so this guy seemingly super competitive obviously has the pizzazz and a moxie. Then he gets into ownership in sports. He's at the NBA.

He becomes the owner of the Clippers. And all of a sudden, he wants to build some super arena. And the one thing that he was most jacked up about whenever we heard him speak about it from the construction site where the hard hat was. Toilets, 1160 toilets, three times the NBA. Not one people waiting in line. We want them to get back to their damn seats. at the end of the half before the game,

of course, we know what you meant, yes, getting back. So this man was a unicorn immediately. From jump. Just an absolute alien, seemingly, in all facets of it. He has the thigh-slat grab moment that he's already had. It's like everything this guy does

is out of a movie. And now he's potentially supervillain who's utilizing different methods to potentially rig a system or cheat a system that has been put in place. his people vehemently deny the allegations. The NBA came out and said,

harshest penalty in the history of professional sports, basically. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now to dive in a little bit deeper to what just took place with the Clippers, the Kauai Leonard, the circumventing the salary cap allegations, and the penalty that seemingly is harsher than anything we've ever seen. A year ban, five first round picks, six-month ban here, fine here, year-banned. here those are big numbers obviously something very very serious took place Adam Silver said this is what it's gonna be what was it and why was it to tell us

senior MBA insider for ESPN champ Sharangie yeah yeah shams okay so we know Steve well thank you for joining us you look fantastic we know Steve Balmer is a character a character if you will but it feels like in this particular case something happened that Adam Silver was not happy about it all and there was a report at one point that there was nothing found and we're going to move on actually with this entire thing. Then the NBA was like, nope, that's not true at all. There was a trade of Kauai Leonard to Toronto that was supposed to happen.

And the NBA said, nope, you should probably wait until we're done with our investigation. Did we know that the investigation was coming to a point at this time? And what really does this all say about the situation? Kind of open floor for you, Shams. Yeah, what this says is this is the most severe punishment given out in American pro sports. That's for sure. And what this does say at the end of it is above all, Adam Silver is the judge, he's the jury, he's got the final word. And the NBA had Wachtel Lipton, a third-party law firm basically commissioned as the investigator, the lead investigator for this last September.

And then they published that 36-page report yesterday on Wednesday. But my understanding is back in late July, the Clippers already received all of the findings that the NBA had from Washington. to Lipton on all the all the charges all the emails all the text message everything that they've got here in this 36 page report and things always come up at the last second there's always more information this is always fluid that's what goes into these types of investigations there's all these different sides right it's the clippers it's steve balmer it's steve balmer's lawyers it's the clippers lawyers it's the nba it's adam silver it's the lawyers at the league it's the walk to lipton lawyers as well and then there's the whole kawai leonard then his

agent and his former business rep, then it's the union representatives. And so there's all these people, there's all these sides. So these are complex stories, no question. But when the league went to the clippers in July, my understanding is they were looking for the clippers to basically fall on the sword here to like admit the wrongdoing to cooperate. But there was none of that. The clippers even to this day, this morning, Thursday right now, 1249 p.m. Eastern time, they are vehemently standing by their statements that they did not do anything wrong. And at the crux of this is the introductions that the NBA found that rose to the level of not just normal introductions that teams make.

Teams in the NBA are allowed Pat to make introductions to their players and sponsors. Right. And so any individual player, likely 60 to 70 percent of their sponsors are coming directly with the team sponsors just because it's interesting. house. Well, you can introduce a player, like the Clippers could have introduced Kawhi Leonard to Dactronics or any of these other four companies that they've been found to basically brokering these deals. The issue here is that there is proof at least on one occasion, Jillian Zucker, the president of business, who got suspended for a full year.

Well, she basically, according to the NBA's findings, negotiated a deal in the millions with a company and a middleman, a middle agent for Kauai Leonard on behalf of Kauai Leonard before it even reached the point of an introduction. And so cases like that are why when I talked to team executives last night, one mentioned to me the Kli Kli Kyi Klanard, in some instances. And that's where it rises from just introductions or just an innocent situation to, okay, there is some intent here.

on circumventing the salary cap. Okay, because thank you for all that information. Obviously, it's a lot. I think there's, you know, in the NFL, players make appearances at, like, team-sponsored events, and then there is, like, per diem or a payment that's made.

But the teams have always said, we can't give you any more than that, or you can't earn any more of that because obviously we have to report every single dollar, and there's a salary cap, and yada, yada, yada. So I assume that there has been team deals. You said 60% with players

that have happened in the past. The problem here is that they were telling these people, hey, this is what you're going to have to give to Kauai Leonard? Is that why they're upset about it? And follow-up, there was no finding of Steve Balmer putting money into a company and then that company's sending money to Kauai Leonard, right? Is that? Because I think a lot of people think that was potentially happening. Like, I think that is there's, yeah, there's like you can look at everything circumstantially, you know, like the, the clippers are, you know, paying $7 million and then Kauai is getting $7 million. Like, why? Like, but there's a

no like that there's no like definitive like the the money went from Steve balmer's bank account to this company and then it went right like that court but again you can read through the circumstances you can read through all of it and that's where the lines you know get blurred a little bit and there is that gray area but I don't know why anyone involved in this situation manage these deals the way they did like to have have deals in the tens of millions of dollars of range. Like, Kauai Leonard, these deals were being inked and discussed and talked about during 2020 and 2021.

This is during the COVID pandemic when businesses were basically at times using COVID in the pandemic. And that was around the country as a reason why businesses were actually suffering that money wasn't as available. Like I talked to agents and players now. Like these endorsement deals were not hot and popping during COVID times. in 2020 and 2021. But for some reason,

Kauai Leonard was getting tens and millions of dollars in endorsement deals. And by mid-2020, he had already pocketed over $10 million in endorsement deals with basically no obligation. And so that is a red flag. You add all the circumstances together. And then you have the text message proof

or the email proof of the business rep dealing with, you know, basically a middleman before it even got to Kauai. These are all the things that the league is looking, you know, looked into, we'll continue to look into. And Wachtel-Lept and did say there's more stuff coming to us as well. And we'll see where that could end up down the line whenever that point is. Okay, because there's so many different defenses that college players are utilizing this right now for no-show type appearances.

Well, actually, one appearance, we negotiated with them to be worth $5 million. So that is, there's always those types of back-end stuff that's happening. Quickly, because we have a hard out coming in about two and a half minutes. Kauai Leonard's $700,000 fine, no suspension, and we assume trade is back on to Toronto, and why do you think he only got only $700,000 is a lot of money, but in comparison to what he has earned, I guess you have to keep it real. No suspension, no, did Kauai know nothing? And then if he'd do nothing, why is he getting suspended?

Or why is he getting fined? Yeah, a lot, a lot of questions around the league. Why was Kauai Leonard's penalty just $700,000 in restitution? why did he not get fined or why did he not get suspended why did he not get his contract voided well the NBA did publish that report with walked out Lippon 36 pages there was no evidence there that showed that he had knowledge or he firsthand worked on circumventing the salary cap basically Dennis Robertson the uncle had all the power had all to say so is just like Adam silver does with the NBA Dennis Robertson everyone around the NBA knows it he ran Kauai Leonard he ran his

life. And so that, you know, when you talk to people around the players union, it's, they're using this as a cautionary tale of what can happen when someone has this much power around you and you're the player. So if Kauai Leonard is just thinking about playing basketball, maybe not looking at his bank account and seeing what's actually going on, that is what the NBA is taking him at his word, because they just don't have the proof that he had the knowledge, nor did Wachtell Lipton, find that proof. And so absent of that proof, you can't just void his contract or suspend him based on a pre-tech. But again, he is taking that penalty, $700,000 of improper benefits to his uncle. But then even more than that, you're getting a lot of stain on his legacy, clearly his name.

And he was very brazen with the way he behaved with his inner circle. There's no doubt about it. And that's the penalty that he's living with. But the trade as of right now, both sides, the clippers and rappers, they're moving forward as if the trade is going to happen. There's sequencing that has to occur. But the trade call is what's next, lining that up with the NBA. and both sides have already spoken Wednesday night, and they both

have the intention of moving forward here with this trade, Kauai Leonard to Toronto, and Brandon Ingram, Grady Dick, two first round picks, two second round picks, and one pick swap would be going to the clippers. And you talk about five first round picks you lose, well, you're getting some of that back here in this Toronto deal. Okay, literally two seconds here.

They're going to renegotiate a deal with him too up there in Toronto? The expectation is there will be an extension here to come with Kauai Leonard as well. That's Sean's Rebush. Back on the other side, be a friend-tell, friends. Have nice? Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar-raised matters.

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Shout out. We'll see Ty on Monday. We're off tomorrow, just a couple of house cleaning notes. Off tomorrow. We'll be fully focused on Baton Rouge on College Game Day Saturday. You know, we're going on a little bit of a football tour here. Here we go. You know, going on a little bit of a football tour.

That's kind of how I'm viewing this particular fall. A lot of musicians obviously work multiple nights in different times. Wrestlers obviously work in multiple different times. It feels like we're just going on a nice football tour for the fall. I've heard a lot of chatter about me potentially dying this fall and maybe over saturation and not going to be able to know enough stuff. It's like, yeah, right, man. We are about to enjoy the hell out of this football season. This is the greatest gift outside of like daughter and son and obviously like that.

Greatest gift that I've ever been presented, us as a team getting a chance to do football this way that we're about to do it. We're incredibly pumped. Now, speaking of gifts, and I didn't know we're going right to DoorDash right now, but I'm pumped them. we are. DoorDash is giving away a house. Okay? You don't see it on this particular. Don't fan for free. Don't fan for free, baby. Don't do it. I don't know how it made its way back. Honestly, I don't know how it did, but I appreciate that this is there. What are you doing? You're scanning the QR code. You said I could get a house? No, I want to see. You can get money for towards a house. Okay. By scanning that? You scan this. First of all,

college students all fall. Is it Steve Ballmer's money? No. And, and, it's not Walters either. Everybody needs to relax and just kind of let me tell you what's happening because it's a very good thing that DoorDash is doing here. Okay, if you, while being a fan of your team, okay, on Saturdays, college game day Saturdays, you can earn points while door dashing on college and then that is get you into running for a potential Dodge Charger. Hellcat.

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We're very, very grateful for them. Huge conversation last hour. Not only Laney Wilson is a celebrity guest picker for their 500th Road Show. Shout to her and Duck making their way down to Baton Rouge. Then obviously catch up with Nick Saban. Nick Saban talks about how the environment and the hype could potentially make your players believe

that they don't have to play good football. Like Death Valley and all this juice is going to win you the game regardless because they talk about away games at night, especially in the ACC, what the record is. It's like, you've got to play as well. We haven't talked anything about Lane Kiffin and his football team. We've only talked about Lane Kiffin and who he's been trying to get on his football team, which are guys that were in some of these training camps.

around the NFL. They got a tight end. Trade Des Green. He's going to be wearing number seven. He's unbelievable. We're talking about this Dayquan Wright guy who's coming back from the Cleveland Browns. It's like, obviously he was second team all SEC last year. I think he's very talented. He's with the Browns. Yeah. And now with the Chiefs, I believe, that we're talking about him as tight end. It's like they actually got the tight end. They have the number one guy, the preseason number one guy, six foot seven, 243. Sam Levitt, quarterback, unbelievable, led that Arizona state team, those plus 10,000 odds to the big 12 to get into the college football playoffs. It's like they got a very talented roster down there.

And then Clemson, everybody's overlooking them. It's like we could potentially have the greatest start to a season yet, like actually could have the greatest start to a season yet. Excited about it. It all kicks off tonight, tone. What should we be looking at for these numbers this evening as we try to take advantage of the best sports book on earth? Draft King.

Yeah, tonight, obviously the main game, the one where it's not a 40 point spread is Colorado and Georgia Tech. These two teams did play last year. We talked about that earlier. 2720 Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech ran for 320 yards in that game. Haynes King, I think, had 150 on the ground himself. So this is kind of a measuring stick game for these two programs who have a ton of turnover.

We talked about it. Alberto Mendoza is the quarterback for Georgia Tech. So it's his new era. It's not Haynes King anymore. Georgia Tech has turned into a very, very solid program down there that loves to run the football. So watch out for that. And then Prime needs to get it done this year. You know, the first year with Chatur and Travis Hunter was awesome.

They were really, really good. The last two years have not been great. Juju Lewis is a very, very talented quarterback. So we'll see what Prime in Colorado has in store for this year for us tonight as well. Juju Lewis back in Georgia. He threw for 14 touchdowns in the state championship one game. I forget what the numbers are. It's not 14 touchdowns, but it's something.

The record. It's something like that with how talented he was down in Georgia, which is why he got handed to kids. He's literally in a promo shoot for social media from Shador to be the next one for the buffs. Not a lot of chatter about them on the field this year. Excite to see what they have. Justice Haynes running back for Georgia Tech is somebody keep an eye on tonight. He was at Michigan last year.

Was Alabama before that? He's from Alfreda, Georgia. He's a five-star guy. He's going to get the ball a lot tonight. They're going to run the shit out of the ball. Yeah. Or the attempt to it. Can Colorado tackle him?

I mean, that is going to be the huge question. Joining us now is a man that's going to be on the call. Former NFL quarterback, Missouri. Superstar. Ladies and gentlemen, congrats to him getting a call tonight's game

and also all the other amplified stuff that he is going on this football season. Love seeing former players crush it. This guy definitely doing that. Ladies of gentlemen,

Chase Daniel. Yeah, Chase. So boys. Hey, good to see you, brother. How is life down there in Atlanta? It's good, man.

It's busy. Like, we're doing this game, obviously, tonight, honored and blessed. I can't even imagine what your schedule is like because you do,

like 55 more things than I do. And I'm doing, like SEC Nation on Saturday. I'm prepping for this game here. We're doing the 5 p.m. Sports Center tonight with Matt Berry. Like just a little taste of like everything you do in the Monday night. You're, dude, you guys, the whole crew is on another level.

So, so props to you guys. Well, thank you, Chase. That's very kind of you. We've been doing this for a while now. You know, the daily show grind thing is, it's a good way to cut your teeth, I think. Yeah, I think it's a good way to cut your teeth. We used to do radio. We were doing radio for like three, four hours.

So, I mean, you're going to crush it. We can't wait to watch you, and we think your brain is going to be good over top of games. Not that this is the first time you're calling games, but certainly a more amplified calling of games, especially tonight. Let's hear your thoughts on tonight because Justice Haines, Georgia Tech. We've been just super excited about because obviously we saw him go crazy last year. He's a home run hitter. Bruce literally earlier in a week said to the entire group, is anybody going to be able to tackle this guy? Is that not what your thoughts were, Bruce?

Yeah, he's an explosive play machine on a Michigan team last year that didn't have a ton of explosive plays that weren't including Justice Haines. he is super-duper fast and he's also very physical. He's a beast. And his dad, Super Bowl champ, he's from Georgia. It feels like tonight is an opportunity for him to go crazy. What are your thoughts on tonight's game, how you kind of see it, Chase? Yeah, starting with Georgia Tech, for me, they're going to run the piss out of the ball. I mean, Malachi Hosley coming back as well.

And then Justice Haynes, I mean, look, Georgia Tech in general, they have not done well in the portal. And that's by design, meaning like Brank Key, only 220 transfer portals brought. in compared to Colorado's 43, prime as the most in the power of four. But when you watch this Georgia Tech team, to me, they are all about identity. And their identity right now is running the football. They have one receiver coming back, Jordan Allen. So I don't know how that's going to happen. They will run the football.

And this is what we were talking about with their game group. They need to run the football 50 times between Hoseley, Justice Haynes, and then Alberto Mendoza. Like I was talking to Fernando Mendoza about Alberto Mendoza, his brother. making his first career start. Think about it from that perspective. When you're making your first career start, a sold-out stadium at home, you haven't done a whole bunch, lean on the run game, lean on those big hogs up front.

So I really like that for Georgia Tech. And then when you go over to the Colorado side of things, to me, it starts with that go-go offense. I know right when I got on, you guys were talking about Juju Lewis. A big spot for him nationally, really big, high-profile recruit. only his third career start. And it's going to be interesting to see how new offensive coordinator, Bryn and Marion is going to unleash him because it is a third career start,

a lot of growth still to go. And then when you look at that receiver room, though, Pat, and guys like Danny Skidero coming over from San Jose State, he led the country in receiving yards last year. D' Andre Moore was the University of Texas second leading receiver last year. And then you got Cam Perry who led the nation in yards per catch at 23. If they can unleash the past game against the secondary from Georgia Tech. That's just all right.

It should be a good game going into the fourth quarter. Okay. So maybe Juju is the difference there back in his home state of Georgia. I just don't know who can tackle. I don't know much about the defense other than Coach Sapp's not there anymore. Right? So I don't know anything about it. It hasn't been great.

So hopefully they're able to figure that. Especially with the, I mean, that's just going to be a how you don't keep it moving, and Brent Keys here type of type of night. I'll be excited to see if Colorado could stop. All right, let's pivot away from tonight and let's talk more ball. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Chase, I wanted to pivot to the NFL quickly.

The Rams with what they're doing right now. We've got Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett out there. If you are an opposing offensive coordinator, I guess, what's the plan? What are you going to do? How would you try to attack them? And also, like, are they going to run the table and win the whole thing? Yeah, I mean, to answer your point on run the table and win the whole thing. I mean, on paper, AJ, they look like they can and they look like they should.

But, like, when was the last time we saw a favorite from the very beginning run the entire table, right? You got to stay healthy. You got to make plays. You got to be opportunistic. You got to get lucky sometimes. You guys know. Have we seen it, Chase? Have you seen somebody go water to wire, like the fave and actually go on and do it?

I mean, who would it be? Chiefs in 2023 or 2024, we looked it up. They were plus 600, though. They weren't as short. Yeah. And so to me, it's a lot of sense. The 72 dolphins, they were saying, going into the season. They were saying they're minus 110.

These guys could do it. You know, that's really the only time. You have to be so opportunistic. And as far as like offensive coordinator, like if I'm an offensive coordinator, planning against that D-line, I mean, Ada, you would know, like, it's all one-on-one blocks. You're going to get into a bare front, a jam front, you're able to play five across. And you're going to say, we're going to get one-on-one matchups every single time. We're going to drop eight.

We're going to rush five. We can get pressure with four. I think I'm going to be really interested to see how the Rams use Aaron Donald. Yes, I know he's a freak. Yes, I know he's one of the greatest defensive tackles of all time. And yes, I know he's in great shape, worked out with the Rams, obviously, a few times. How often do they use him at the beginning of the season? Because I want to see them, you know, sprinkle him in on third down, obviously run, run, sober,

but save him for that long season. I mean, you're going to be playing 20 games, 21 games, if you have it all. I want him out there. I think he wants to be out there, too. That's why he was doing it all over there. I know. he was doing all the training that he was doing. I think he was not training for a package. You know, and Schaefter mentioned that whenever we first talked about this with Aaron Donald.

Schaefter was like, what a perfect situation to go back to. Obviously, the Rams very good. He could get 15, 20 plays a game or whatever if you want to. It's like, I don't think that's what Aaron Donald's preparing for. I think he wants to come back in wreck games. I think he wants to be full-time participant here alongside Miles Garrett, who might not be. Is he okay? He's hurt too. His Miles. Got some swelling. We're talking about the Avengers, but we got knee swelling and we haven't seen a guy on a field for two years. Hopefully they're able to piece it together because this could be a spectacle, literally everywhere that they go. Excited for that.

Okay, let's pivot from the defensive side to the offensive side. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Chase, a lot of different matchups this year as far as QB and OCs. A lot of new guys and new places. The Eagles and Jalen Hertz, new O.C., Jaden Daniels, a bunch of them really around the league. Who are you most excited to watch this year as far as quarterback OC combos? and who do you expect to have a big year that maybe people aren't looking at? Yeah, that's a great question.

It's without a doubt, Jaden Daniels. New offensive coordinator, David Blow. Okay, I played with him. He was the third string quarterback in 2020 for the Detroit lines. Think Ben Johnson meets old school Daryl Beville where they're taking shots down the football field. A lot of motions, a lot of shifts. Jane Daniels had the greatest rookie season of all time, not even close two years ago. People seem to have forgotten what he is about and how he was.

was he got hurt last year obviously didn't play a lot it's going to be a new look offense right like step on digs is stepping in among others but you're going to see and i talked to david blood you're going to see a different offense for jaden they're going to put them under center still have that shotgun rPO run game but they are going to stretch defenses vertically there's going to be some trick plays you're going to see a lot more at the line it's going to say check check alert alert letting jaden daniels use his mind and when he was coming out and i studied them in 2024 out of LSU. I thought he was one of the best pure pocket passers I had seen in college. It's not like you're locking onto one and then you're running. Everyone knows about

his running ability. You're locking on to one and you see it two, three, four. Just the way he gets through progressions to me is excellent. I do think that, you know, they got to figure out that offensive line and really just shore up how they're going to go about it, find their identity. But I think Jane Daniels is going to show everyone that that rookie season was who he was and not that second year sophomore slump even though he was hurt. Every coach but Dan Quinn fired after last season, whole new staff on the offense and on the defense. And the number five, I think, is still being warned down in LSU.

Not a lot of positive things coming out of Grandors this off season. I like to hear that Jaden Daniels is potentially going to get back on top. He was a phenomenal football player. Let's pivot back to college, shall we? There's some storylines developing that we think Chase Daniels will obviously have the right answer for. Go ahead, tone. Yeah, Chase, obviously, you have a great game tonight.

And a lot of people have made a lot about how there's only one ranked matchup this weekend. But what is something else that you're looking forward to this weekend? I mean, I amaliava and Saga Politelli play on Saturday night and kind of like an old Pac-12 after dark match up there. CJ Carr goes against Wisconsin. You've got Byron Brown and DJ Lagway in that game. Ole Miss and Louisville, obviously. What is something else that you're maybe looking forward to this weekend as you will go through the games? Well, I think we'll see how this court ruling plays out for me. It's Clemson, LSU. Clemson has lost a lot of guys. I think they had nine guys drafted, new quarterback starting on the road, Death Valley at night,

Lane Kiffin, Portal Kings, how does Sam Levitt handle everything? That's going to be a huge storyline. And then look, I also think Davo's going to have some things for Lane that maybe Lane doesn't understand. I just think it's a very difficult place to play at night. And it's going to be a huge litmus test for where Clemson and Ellis you're at. And the other game is the Ole Miss Louisville matchup. To me, one of the more underrated games, not a lot of people talking about it. This Louisville team will be better than you think. How does Ole Miss with a new play caller handle with Kiwan Lacey and Trinidad Chamon, who I think, you guys know I'm really high on. But this Louisville team, I think they're going to play Ole Miss a little bit tighter than a lot

of people think, but a good first week matchup for me. How about Chase Daniel giving us all the breakdown on college football? I love it. Have we ever thought about Chase Daniel? Maybe diving into a court case. Hey, Chase, you're a former SEC quarterback. What are your thoughts on this breaking news, the SEC, Greg Sankey, suing? Okay, if I had a lawsuit against LSU and head coach, Lane Kiffin, defendants waged a deliberate and coordinated campaign to recruit professional athletes to play football for LSU during the 2026, 27 season. Now remember, this is all happening in a Baton Rouge courthouse right now. Wow. So Greg Sankey, who we did not know if he was going to be showing up at this particular

court hearing. We knew what lawyers were going to be there. I think he stone cold Steve Austin's through the courthouse, right? Push! Holy hell, the commission's here. I hope we got footage of this from behind the scenes of him deciding to come and do this. Walk into the beehive, into the buzzsaw that is Baton Rouge for this injunction.

And not only they're saying, not only do we defend to what we're saying, we'd like to file suit, actually, against what's happening on your side. You that? We counter. You sue us? No. We sue you. How about that? This is a huge deal because I think this is a commissioner in a conference trying to regulate their shit. This would be big for the next couple of years until this Protect College Sports Act goes through for some sort of regulation, I think.

But if you're LSU, you're saying, hey, there's people that are going to be able to lose employment opportunities because of what you're doing. They can definitely go with that particular angle. This is just getting started, I think, Jason. This is in your conference, Chase. This is your conference where it's happening in that, brother. We're such a litigious country. like you sue, I sue, we counter sue. I just don't understand that.

And look, it's more like fluffing your chest up, like the commissioner's walking through. Like, hey, you're going to do this. I'm going to do that. And so forth and so on. I just think it's LSU trying to have and play within the rules. But then here's where I land on all this, guys. Like at the end of the day, regardless of the court ruling that comes down today, is Lane Kiffin going to have the Cajonis to actually follow through with playing those

guys. Like that's my thing with Dayquan Wright and some other guys. That's what I'm going to wonder and see. And it's just like, hey, you know, Lane, Lane's a villain. I know Lane's a friend of the show, but he's the villain. I love Lane. I think he's great. He's trying to do what he can to win. But it's going to be an interesting match that we're going to be talking about all week. And SEC Nation is going to cover it in depth when we're here right outside the Mercedes Ben Stadium that I'm looking at right now. It's going to be fascinating to see if he act. Because the rosters are due 24 hours tomorrow. before they play. Like, are they going to play them? I don't know.

Yeah, are they going to list them on the roster? I think that would be the first step to potentially tell in Sankey and them. I don't think so. We'll have to listen to the ruling. Trey Wallace is reporting that Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle starts off her remarks outside of Baton Rouge courthouse with go Tigers, okay? She has a purple shirt on in that photo as well. Can we scroll down here? Let's listen to what she has to say, actually. Let's go back to the beginning. Let's turn some audio up here. 58 seconds. Shout to Trey Wallace for this video outside of courthouse. this before or after this is before the entire thing okay this is go tigers you issued an amicus brief last night um why is it so important for your office to get involved look i think this is about this is about fundamental fairness and and given these players a fair

forum and an opportunity to be heard i mean my my brief is very simple it says this was a bait and switch and it was unfair to them and they deserve a forum where they can have a fair hearing about how they are being treated by the NCAA and by the SEC. This is obviously not the only hearing that's happening around the country. So, you know, I always find it kind of peculiar when I'm reading about this issue nationally that there's so much of a focus on Louisiana and on LSU in particular when, in fact, these hearings are taking place all over the country. So, you know, I think it's obvious that these players are seeking a fair forum

to have their grievances heard, and I think they deserve that. Go Tigers. I appreciate that. Obviously, college football is, as Pete Tamma would say, if you're looking for stability, I don't think college football is where you wanted at. We got an attorney general saying go tigers walking into a courthouse. We got the SEC suing LSU and Lane Kiffin in an Alabama court. Oh, is that where they're suing them in an Alabama court because I believe what the SEC is home to Mobile.

Okay, I believe is at. not the you think Atlanta but I don't I think it's an Alabama I think maybe I don't know how you tie out not the SEC

not the bad SEC No no not the tax commission Not the security exchange Not the Birmingham Alabama Birmingham Alabama is where the There you go is headed so they're suing him because this is our rules

This is where we are headquartered at So we're suing you in an Alabama court We're currently sitting in a Louisiana court and we got a huge game coming up in just two days kicking off tonight's college football week one uh what an insane time to be alive we're lucky for it we can't wait to watch you this season good luck out there chase thanks guys appreciate you guys gentlemen that's chase daniel yeah chase p tham was reporting that the scee she has filed a federal lawsuit in alabama shooing ls u and lane kiffin per louisiana attorney general liz merle she mentioned in a break in the state court hearing in

Sheehan. Wow. So we thought maybe today we'd find an answer. We could. If LSU just says, what are we doing? There's more mud. What are we doing? Let's just be done with this shit. Who cares? I don't know if that's... We got the best damn tight ends. We already talked about it. Why do we, we don't need this guy. So Zavian Harris, D-Linman, that's potentially going to join the LSU team. Yeah. 6'8. D-Tackle. Okay. Nobody's mentioned his name. They don't have any of them. He is... He might be probably more important.

Yeah, because they got two. freshman detackled. Now, granted, there's number one and number two. In the world. In the entire class, they're two freshmen detackle. But Zavian Harris, six-foot-eight coming in there, I think, would be a little bit of an assist. You know, because it's not just one player. There's multiple like Jack Pipern might be joining them afresh out of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I think, camp as he led the entire NFL preseason. Zavian Harris, go ahead, pal. Pipern, oh, he accepted an offer from one of the other. Oh, he was the one of the chiefs. Yes, yeah, yeah, so Dekwan Wright. That's you. Yeah, yeah. Potentially down there. So, so, hey,

Just be done with it, damn it. There is seemingly a way to be done with this. Yeah. Now, I don't know, though, after the lawsuit, because Sankey's suing what damage has already been done. You already did this, right? You already broke our rules. This has already happened.

So let's say Lane Kiffin and LSU walk into that courthouse today. Governor Jeff Landry's there. Hey, hey, everybody. Greeting everybody. He goes, hey, welcome to Louisiana. I mean, obviously not on best terms, but hey, welcome to our state here. $100 billion, SpaceX, invest. in Louisiana.

Okay? We got the biggest rocket place and know the man. Okay. Welcome to Louisiana. We know it's not great, but we'll get to the bottom of it.

What did they walk in and say? All right, we just wanted to see. We just want to see what was happening. Because that's kind of what happened the Sources B, Texas Tech case with Big 12 where the Big 12 was like

kind of pressuring in, pressuring in, pressuring in. Is this what you really want? Is this what you really want? We're not going to, and then all of a sudden, okay.

You. Okay, that's what we thought. This one, Sanky's showing up at the courthouse. Unannounced, right? Yeah, did not know that. I think that was on announced.

Coming in, that's funny what you guys are saying. Actually, we're suing your fucking ass in a different state. Is this really what you want to do right now? This really friendly court down here in Baton Rouge, but I think up there in Birmingham, we got a little bit of say. I think we got a little okay, and they're hoping that that happens. So I think that could all unfold in the next 24 hours, and we will look at it as a wild off-season story,

pointing out what college football chaos truly looks like in the state that we're in with no guardrails, no regulation, no rules, but we got a lot of money in employment, and labor on the line. That's kind of what is happening. And hopefully by the time Saturday comes, this will all be in the past. We don't have to talk about anybody. Let's talk about how incredible these football teams are, which LSU could potentially be this year if we were to talk about just them as a football team.

Ludo and Davos, Sweeney coming in there doing his thing. And a lot of teams getting off to the races of a college football season that's very long. Going to have to take on a lot of adversity and phenomenal football is going to be played. Speaking of phenomenal football, congratulations to Michael Wilson. Wow. in Arizona, new coach, LaFleur, offensive-minded coach. Quarterback, obviously Jacoby Brissette, Carson Beck, had an incredible preseason run. We do believe the offense is going to run well.

The wide receiver position is a huge deal in this particular office. 75 mil. Is that what I read there? Yeah, up to 78 or something. Like 25, 26 a year. I'm saying this. Now they have to spend money. Okay, the salary cap floor.

You have to spend money. The Arizona Cardinals are building a brand new practice facility out there, brought in new head coach, investing in hopefully the future. It's like, is it really a new era out there in Arizona? Because they have a couple years here where they're not expected to win many games. It's kind of like how the New Orleans Saints were a few years back, whenever they were in Saturday Capel and they're in a tough division. People are like, the Saints probably not going to be good.

They bring in Kelly Moe. They start playing a little bit better than everybody expected, consider it a successful season, even though they were nowhere near making it to the Super Bowl. It feels like the Arizona Cardinals have that for a couple of years as they try to build what they are for the future. And maybe they're able to get back into conversation of relevance. Michael Wilson, hell of a football player. Congrats to him, getting $78 million with 47 of that guaranteed upon signing.

I love what's kind of going on over there in Arizona. No real expectations. But if we're good in the next couple years, that's a good thing, AJ. Yeah, I guess what's the, do they have the lowest over under of all the teams when you come to odds as far as like overall wins this season? I think there, aren't they tied? I think three and a half is the bottom and they're tied. Three and a half. I mean, honestly, like, yeah, terrible.

You don't want to be in that position. But for new head coach to the floor and everything, hey, no one's expecting anything from us. It's like an old school major league. Let's go out there and shock the world. You go get six wins. Imagine that's like a moral victory, even though we don't have any of those,

but like no one's expecting anything from these guys. Oh, and I think that's why a lot of people were asking Jacoby percent why he was sitting out because how many games they won last year? And it's like, well, without me, You guys literally had nothing. They were terrible. And we like Jacoby Brissette. We love Jacobi Brissette, but there wasn't a lot of success over there.

So if they did hit the reset button at the quarterback position after trading Tyler Murray away, I think we would all completely understand. Instead, they bring him in there for $17 million a year, I do believe, or something along those lines. He's going to be able to hopefully transition them into whatever era they're going to get to, but their defense played hard as hell last year. Obviously, with LeFle, we think their offense is going to have success. If they become a problem for teams down the stretch, I think their fans would be like,

yes, okay. As long as we have some players that we know on the field. We have some hope. You've got to give them some hope heading into next year. Three and a half over under. What a nightmare staring down the season if you're a fan going. Here we go again. Even though your city's awesome, stadium's awesome, brand is awesome,

logo's awesome. This year doesn't feel like the potential outcome might be, but hopefully in the next couple of years. Yeah, and I mean, they're set kind of at the skill positions now because Michael Wilson will be there until 2029. I think I saw if Marvin gets it together, which it looks like he is, that's a great wide receiver.

Trade McBride, love, obviously, who we talked about it. Now, if they get a quarterback in that situation, they're going to be fun to watch. Like when Jacobi took over last year, they were scoring in upper 20s, low 30s, every single game. They couldn't get any stops,

but they were trying really hard, but they're at least a fun, at least they're a bad team that's fun to watch. They're not scoring like 16. They were trying really hard, tone. They were. They were. Sometimes.

They got the Rams, the Seahawks, the Seahawks, running Super Bowl champs, and the 9th. Niners in their division. Okay. And how do we talk about all of them right now? Hi.

Very high. I think they play the AFC West. The West play each other. So, yeah. Yeah. So you also got the Chiefs. I mean, you got the Chargers and the Broncos are in the AFC championship. So tough year, but hey, Mike's going to be there for the build.

Mike should be there for the build. Joining us now, ladies of gentlemen, is a man who's coming off a season in which there was no flubs. There was no flaws. Perfect season. Now, he would say that not everything was perfect on. every single rep, but whenever you're 16 and 0, I mean, that's just kind of how it goes. That's in the rear view, though. We've got a whole new season with a whole new group of guys.

What happened last year does not matter. The only thing happens is against North Texas. Now, each play is six, seven seconds long, and each play has its own identity. Each play lives on of itself. It does not affect the next play or the previous play. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, national champion. Yinsur-Paisoned legend, West Virginia Mountaineer head coach of the IU Hoosier football team. Ladies of gentlemen, Kurt Signetti.

Yes, Sieg. Coach, how you doing? What's up? Hey, thank you for joining us. How many of the last year doesn't matter messages have you been sending to your team? And do you think they have got that message pretty clear at this stage, just a few days removed from the start of the 2026 season? You know, I really haven't had to send that message very often because it's more about the process

and how we do thing in the standards, which, you know, we want them to meet the bar consistently. and it's been more about that and they understand that. They're a subtle reminder now and then, but they're smart enough. Now, you know, you hope as the head coach that, you know, that hungry, humble levels where it needs to be, I think it is, but we'll learn about our team Saturday.

We had Charlie on and Charlie Becker on, and you would have loved it. I mean, we asked somebody, he said, I don't know anything about that. I just know that we got North Texas coming up. And then we said, have you guys been, you know, kind of reaping the benefits of what you did last year down there on campus? He goes, we have not won a single game. We got North Texas coming up.

So know that Charlie has gotten the messaging loud and clear. Can you tell me a little bit about this offense? Obviously, Josh Hoover, new quarterback coming in for the number one overall pick and Heisman winner, Fernando. I think we heard some reports that maybe offense looks better at this time of year than it did a year ago. Where do you kind of stand right now with how the offense looks? Yeah, I don't know where those are. courts come from. Okay, so that's not real. Great. I'm happy to hear that, actually. That's a clarification that I think a lot of us were kind of running with there for a bit.

I will say this. I mean, last year in the opener against Old Dominion, they ripped off a 75-yard touchdown run the first play of the game. We were down 7-0 before you can blink an eye. And then we had a 90-yard punt return for itself. We didn't score our first offensive touchdown until three minutes ago in the second quarter. But we were inside the 10, six times and scored 17 points. So we weren't really an offensive juggernaut last year coming out of the open. Okay. So this year, are you going to be a juggernaut or at least more of a juggernaut? How do you feel about the new offensive quarterback? I guess we'll find out Saturday. I think Josh is in a really good place. He's settled in.

He's not thinking he's playing with confidence. I think the guys have a lot of confidence in him. He's been stringing good practices together. I think he's come a long way. And like everybody else on team, I'm sure he's excited to play. Offensively in general, you know, it always starts up front with the line. We've got four veteran guys starting up front. I like our running back group a lot. I think we've got three guys. We can rotate in and out. And, you know, we've got a couple top-notch receivers that have proven production at this level. And, you know, Tyler Morris is back from an injury, didn't get to play last year. Made some big plays at Michigan. Has one more year. And then we've got some young.

guys with talent. So tight ends are a little young, but, you know, we got a chance on offense. First thing we got to do is, you know, is protect the ball. No pre-snap penalties, all that stuff I always talk about. We win it. You can't beat yourself. So, you know, you know, defense has been coming along fine, special teams, you know, like our specialists a lot. It's time to play game. Okay, time to play a game. We'll find out, won't we, against North Texas. And it's crazy still to think that the Indiana Hoosiers are national champions in football.

And I know you can't think about that. But it wasn't that long ago you were walking in that basketball court after experiencing an entire day in Bloomington and realize it what the football team was and the expectations are when you call your shot inevitably. And obviously you had to do some disruption not only in Bloomington

across the national board and it ends up working out. Now everybody else is saying, we need to do we just need to do what Sig did in Indiana. I don't think obviously it's as easy as that, but there's a lot of people thinking like that. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, coach, obviously not everyone can evaluate talent the way you can and take advantage of everybody's, you know, skill set. But have you had other coaches reach out this offseason? You're just like, hey, what the hell do you do? How do you do this? What can we do to take from

you? Has there been any conversations like that? And have you kind of given out any knowledge or you keeping it all to yourself so the Hoosiers go back to back? I think there's a lot of people probably interested. Some have reached out to me and others on our staff for sure. I mean, you can't change who you are. We have a certain way of doing things and certain things we've been preaching for a long time because we've been together a long time. So, you know, it's worked in the past. But it is in the past, like you said, and you got to do it again. It's a whole new group of guys. But I like the pieces we have. The blueprint, the process has been successful. successful consistently.

And I'm looking forward to learning about this team on Saturday and developing them. AJ has a follow-up about learning about the team on Saturday. Go ahead, brother. Yeah, coach, we always wonder, like, going into week one, there's so much unknown. As a head coach, what is it like, especially now in this era when you have so much turnover on your roster? Do you know, like, how much do you know about your team and how much are you going to learn

from that first game? I think I'm going to learn a lot. How much do I know? know what I've seen at practice. Now we have to respond and put it between the white lines. You know, can we play, play in, play out consistently from play one to 150 with great effort, you know, and compartmentalize and play that one play at a time and on the next play like it's nothing, nothing game on the line? Can we play discipline, poised, penalty-free? You know, are we affected by success or failure? Do we get satisfied if, if, if,

you know, we jump up to a lead. All those things that we preach. I'm interested to see how close they can come to the bar. And, you know, all the openers, to be quite honest with you, you walk away probably with more critiques in the opening game than maybe any other you'll play. But there's always a lot of improvement to be made. They're never perfect or quite where you want them to be.

So I think the biggest thing you're trying to get done is not do the things that can cost you a football game, pre-snap penalties, turnovers, egregious misassignments, special teams, gaffes, and play as consistently as possible and physical, fly around, start to finish, play in, play out. So you've got to have respect for your opponent. Look. He's in a mall. He's froze right there. I love your aces.

They got 50 transfers, 70 new players. there's a lot of unknowns there. But we can only control, we can control, we can control us, and that's why we got to have a great practice today. I'll tell you, you just hit them all, I think. I've never seen somebody string all of the football mindset mantras together like that. And I think that is why they're looking at you, the world is, as maybe one of the greatest leaders we have, brother.

I don't know if you know that. That is being talked about you from the outside world. I think obviously you win the national championship. A lot of people know who you are. They're looking back at your old speeches whenever you're saying, you know, everything you were just saying to a group of people and then just flowing right through it and go, that's an easy any business and you just kind of keep it rolling.

A lot of people learning about you. A lot of people loving a lot about you. I think the thing I love most is your people, very loyal to you. And you take care of your people. Tone has a question about that. Yeah, coach, I do. Obviously, special teams coordinator Grant Kane. He's back.

Mad Scientist, Brian Haynes, defense coordinator. He's back. Oh, the two Pittsburgh guys, the offensive geniuses, Sincery and Shanahan, they're back. How awesome is it that all of your coordinators are back? And how nice is it for you that when you do have, like your JMU guys have now moved on to the NFL, there might be a couple left over.

But having the coaches still and everyone else to kind of integrate into that system for the new players coming in. Yeah, and really all the other coaches, too. Quite a few of them been with me a long time. Are great coaches, John Miller, Pat Coontz, and all that. Adams, Rodo, John, Buda Williams, who am I forgetting?

Bob Bostad line coach, you know, it helps a lot because we're on the same page and it filters down to the players. It's easier to get them on the same page and get buy-in when the message is very clear and concise. Now, you still, you get what you demand and you've got to keep the standards high, which is important. But I think we're in a pretty good place right now. and we'll see. You get what you demand.

You either coach it or allow it. You know, just all of them. Right, baby. Yeah, yeah, you are. You either coach it or you're allowing it to happen. Yeah, exactly. I mean, coach, you were born to do this. We're so lucky that we're getting to watch it

in this particular era, especially with where we are here in Indianapolis and our ties to Hoosier all around us, literally all day, every day. Congrats on all the success. I did not know, though. I talked to a brother, I think. Used to spend summers.

in Plum. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Every summer, you know, middle school and even the high school. You know, the Holiday Park, right? Yeah. Yeah. The Cuncles. They had a swimming pool. You know, that was a big deal back then.

Yeah. I know the Cuncles. Yeah. Yeah. You and Franklin? Yeah, I was told by his brother, hey, we spent the summers in Plum, like every single summer. I'm like, so Plum created maybe the greatest leader of all time. I did not know we need to start claiming that. Easy now.

Yeah, okay. All right, well, I'm going to start taking credit for it. We love that you were drinking some plum water, though, that got you to where you are. Congrats on all the success. You're doing really good for all of us, pal. All right, guys, I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Kurt Signetti. Yes, see.

The Conkles, yeah, of course. Conkles had a pool, off-ground pool. We love jumping in it. There was a Jason. There was a Jackson built around it. I believe. I assume this would be their dad. Kurt Conkle.

Oh, you actually know the Kunkels? Like, you really do? Oh, yeah, yeah. Wow. A lot of plum families are just there, you know? Like, we got generations. Not a lot of injuries leave the city. Yeah, you are here.

Okay, this is where home is. Got it. Town. Okay. You know, and a lot of pride in plum, man. A lot of pride and plumb, especially now. We got, hey, our sports, we're winning. We are winning.

We got a quarterback. A little John Nondenberg. I think he threw for three touchdowns, ran for one in the opening. Yeah, I think. That place. Yeah, we got a real team, I think. A bunch of dogs everywhere. obviously if you're in Plum, you're a dog, we understand that.

So our sports are rolling. We created Kurt Signetti. That's pretty cool. I didn't know that. You know, NIL for Plum is open, coach, if you would like to help out any of the lads back there. That would be a beautiful thing. I can't wait to get started. I mean, just talking to coach right there takes me immediately back to the college football

playoffs last year whenever we're doing field pass and just watching him, like, literally just break down a moment in a situation and then go talk to his coaches. And then just all of the anxiety, the pressure, the tension. the energy, the electricity. It's like all of that's coming back. So we're so close to that right now, AJ. We're literally so close to that. Go ahead.

What's that? I'm sorry. I would say the warm-ups to me are special. These college warm-ups, when we see them all come out. You know, you never know. Some teams are talking trash back and forth to each other, but watching them, like you, we all know, anyone that played sports at any level,

especially football, the anxious nerves slash energy in warm-ups. You can feel that, especially when you get to be down on the field like we have been sometimes. You can feel it, you know, as the Brahma Bull has said. Oh, yeah. But just all of the things, Con, man, I don't want to cut you off. But I think you were about to talk about the greatness that's about to take place. Yeah, no, not at all.

It's just the week one excitement is so awesome. And when you bring up college football playoff right there, it just takes you back even to the Big Ten championship, like watching Indiana and Ohio State and how big the conference title games are, because that is kind of the next one. It's like, hey, week one has got great slate. But some of these big matchups that are coming, like Texas, Ohio State Week 2 is going to be huge.

Both those teams are in the top four for odds to win the national championship. And you get that week two. And you would think that's just one of those one-offs that you don't get that often. There's a game like that every single week, it feels like. So it really is just one of those things that you're just so lucky and blessed to be able to watch football going forward. We've made it. Let's enjoy it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is trying to take care of fellow athletes, I do believe.

alongside J.P. Morgan Chase and the Athlete Council, which has stars like Tom Brady. What? Jalen Brunson. Why? Asia Wilson. Why? Alex Morgan.

What? Megan Rapino? Dwayne Wade. Why? And this man, ladies of gentlemen, former number five overall pick for the New York Giants out of Oregon. Man is going to be breaking down what he's doing with J.P. Morgan Chase and what he's going to be doing for John Harbaugh this season. Ladies and gentlemen, Stud, Kvon Tibado.

Yeah, Kavon. Sir, how's everybody doing? Hey, great. How are you? Thank you for doing this with J.P. Morgan Chase. From my understanding of reading about it, you're going to be checking in with them, letting them know what your life is like so they can be better equipped to handle athletes' finances and take care of next generation. Is that accurate with what this council is meant to be? Yeah, I think it's really meant to, you know, get an insight from the player perspective on what we need. I think, you know, there's a big challenge when finding the parallels between kind of finance and the day-to-day life of an athlete.

But it's kind of on us to help the younger generation with NIL being, you know, attainable to really understand, you know, how to build their legacy and other finance. Yeah, and help themselves in the future. You know, future you'll be thankful if you take care of it right now. All of us have been through a little bit of a run maybe where you thought you thought to yourself, man, they shouldn't have given me money. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself there. obviously show up year two with about $25 left in my bank account after a great off season after year one. So maybe Kavon you could go back in time and talk to a young me and say, hey, that's not the smartest decision. Let's talk about the money story because Kauai Leonard, it's happening right now.

You know, there's a massive, massive things happening where Kauai did not know. Somebody else had complete control of his money. I think educating people about finances and what is possible in the future, especially in the athlete world, is brilliant. I love what you're doing here, Kavon. Good luck with that. Let's talk a little bit about football now. This Giants team, obviously brand new culture, brand new environment. You guys go down to West Virginia. We're doing all ball. Come back, we're doing all ball.

How do you feel about Coach Hardball? And what do you expect from the team this year versus maybe years past? I love hardball. I'm super excited about, you know, what the team has in store. I don't want to give away too much, but it's going to be nasty, man. The defense is going to be nasty. The offense is looking good. I'm excited.

We got some weapons. We got a good system in pro. in place. So shit, the sky's the limit. I think this guy, what has Hardball been like? You enjoy them day to day? Have you gotten to know him better? Like, what is your relationship with him and your team's relationship with him? I would say he's definitely different than you see on TV, you know, and then I guess what I thought of him kind of coming in and now playing for him. But I think he's a great coach. I think he's a, he's a player's guy. You know, he does it a certain way. And I think it's easy to buy in when you see somebody who lays it all on the line like that. And I just mean,

from the idea of like you stand for something or fall for anything. And he's a guy who's, he's real old school, but you grow to love it. Yeah, he's in there, what, squatting still, right? Oh, yeah. Everybody talks about his brother. Yeah, he's like 63, 64, still squatting, hitting 400 pounds. Yeah, he's doing it. Yeah, he's a football guy.

I think his entire family, you know, football people through and through. AJ has a question for you, Kavon. Yeah, just about training camp. Obviously, you guys went down to West Virginia, Pat mentioned. We know Harbaugh's camps have kind of people talked about it for years. Like, it's no nonsense, like, all-business camps. usually pretty physical. I guess how did you guys come through that? It sounds like everything went great down there and you guys worked hard and loved it. But like what was it like being part of it?

I think it was pretty great, man. I think, you know, for me, you know, I like to kind of look at things from, I guess, a worldview. And after seeing how hard we practice and seeing people able to stay healthy, you know, we had a few guys get hurt in the beginning, you know, before in OTAs. But coming in a training camp, I think we really went really solid, you know, and how much work we were able to get done and how much better we got as a team without. you know, people getting hurt as you can, you know, see across the league. Giants defense coordinator, Denard Wilson, said this about Kavon-Tibodoh. He's probably one of the hardest working individuals that I've ever met.

He's a glue guy from a team standpoint, from a unit standpoint. He's well-respected. He'll speak his mind. He's a guy that his teammates love being around him, and he wants somebody that's always around that's just true and honest with him. Because he's going to have some crazy questions, okay? I think he's comfortable being around this coaching staff. we accept him for who he is and what he represents.

Obviously, that's high praise from your defense coordinator. What do you think that means? Tell me some of these questions we're asking. I would like to hear this because I just heard you say, I have a worldview on some stuff. Obviously, it got mentioned about the crypto conversations whenever you came out of college. It does seem like you are a deep thinker,

and I think if you're around the right people, they will only amplify that and spotlight that. It sounds like defense coordinator is that. Can you tell me about your relationship with him and what that means with some of the questions you're asking, Maybe I could start asking them as well. I think, you know, I think you ask questions, I understand. And I think when you are able to be around people who, you know, want the best for you.

And I think I've heard a phrase that say, like, you know, the greatest teachers can teach anybody. So being able to, for me, be a sponge with Dinar, I think it's been great. Even with Harbaugh, like those guys are very detailed. They want to be involved as much as they can and they want to see you succeed. So for them, you know, they're finding different ways to, to. just break down the defense for not just me, but for everybody, for all the young guys coming in. And I think, you know, I've always been a guy who I don't necessarily ask the question for me, but I ask the question for the room, you know, because some guys are, you know, can be afraid

or they might be too nervous to act like they or feel like they don't know. So for me, I've never been afraid to kind of get those answers. Yeah, and your teammates appreciating and respecting you is a big part of that, obviously. Because if you speak up for your teammates and you're wrong, obviously, they're going to run your ass out of town, you know, if you're speaking up for the right reasons, they'll go, we love this guy. This is, we need this, you know, but there's some battles that get into speaking the mind of people.

So when you get to a place where you're celebrated as opposed to just tolerate it, I think magic can happen. Do you feel that with this new giant staff? And how you feel about the defense? You know, it's a meritocracy in football. You got to do something first. And I think now it's crazy,

even looking at me being in my fifth year, but every year is a new year to prove and reprove yourself in this league. So for me, I think, you know, I had a great OTA, I had a great camp and just, you know, through how I play and how everybody plays, you know, you're just constantly building respect from your teammates and from the coaches. Are you wearing the big elbow sleeve again?

Just my first time getting a look, really. Not a bad. Maybe both of them. Buy on arms. You know, I'm actually, I might let go of the elbow braces this year. I don't think I'll be wearing them this year. Okay. That feels like breaking news.

That is a massive team. That might be breaking news. Yeah, it feels like it is breaking news. Obviously, you're breaking quarterbacks in half when you get the opportunity. but we need our quarterback to not get broken in half. Connor has a question for you, Kvon. Yeah, Kavon, there's a report during your training camp that basically when Jackson Darts slid one time,

the whole defense erupted, start, you know, clap before him, pat him on the head. Is that something you guys reminding him of every single day? And what have you seen from him year one to year two and how comfortable he is just being the franchise quarterback of the Giants? Yes. I would say that's one of those, like don't touch the hot stove type situations. You know, he's a guy who loves to run. That's the way he plays. He's, he loves the game. But, you know, for us, we're like those big brothers that are like, bro, like, we love,

you got on the red jersey in practice, but please slide. We need you. No blue tense this year, man. Yeah, no blue tense. Jeez. He's developed. I think he's prime to go. The coaching staff has really, you know, took heed to him and the team has took heed to him. And I think even with going against the defense in Deneard's is really giving them the best opportunity to challenge himself. you know, in training camp. Yeah, a blue tent and preseason game. Yeah, it wasn't. Can't have that.

Okay, now, he wasn't thrilled about it either. I do think, I do think some of those things are a little jump to gunnish. You know, we play a violent sport and sometimes, you know, you got, a guy just wants to get up and shake it off. After talking to him about that, he said he was fine, you know, sometimes they call it from New York and make you go on to the blue tent. But hopefully, you know, this season, he'll be able to take some hits and keep it rolling. You need to tell him not take a cat nap on the ground after you hit that because that. We were all kind of worried about it. We're all kind of worried about.

He got jacked up. But I think he just got comfortable too. You know, like alarm goes off and you're like snooze, and then you roll over and somehow it's the most comfortable you've ever been in life. I wonder if that's what he felt on the ground. Plus feeling it might have missed it, you know? Like, oh, wow, it's so nice to be back on a football field. Yeah, I love the turf here.

Maybe just lay down because of that. We don't know, Kayvon. You would know better than us. Sometimes sometimes you just catch your breath, man. Sometimes you just got to get up. Yeah. You got to just take a beat, take a beat and get back into it. Three season football.

We're back in this. And get up you out. You spent way too long. I was breathing. I love it. At least let me wooble back to me huddle. You know, we appreciate you, man.

Thank you for joining us. Good luck this season. And thank you for doing what you're doing for other athletes. That's really cool. Yes, sir. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen,

that's New York Giant. Kvon, Tibado. Yay, Kavon. About other athletes. Jaylon Brunson on that list that you read. I didn't even put that together. Yeah, Jalen Brunson's on there. Represent basketball.

Dwayne. representing basketball. Kavon Tibado, Tom Brady, representing football, Sue Bird, Asia Wilson, and, yep, representing basketball, Alex Morgan and Megan Rapino, representing soccer.

Sure. You know, it's across all board. Different levels of payments as well here, you know? Different levels of money here. Yeah, for sure. Dwayne Wade owns the Utah Jazz. That's right. Yep.

And the man. Tom Brady owns two professional, three professional sports. Yeah, Bowman, and MFC. Asia Wilson. And Sue Bird, Sue Bird didn't even get to reap the benefit here of the million dollar max that just happened. So I think it's supposed to be, I assume, all levels of payment, how we can take care and help. I think that's a big deal because money management and swindling has been happening for a long time,

especially to athletes and others that maybe don't know a lot or have a lot of information going into it. It's like learn about all that. I got drafted 2009, 2008. every rich person I would go on to meet they lost all their money in 2008 and it's like okay so I don't trust a single person to do anything it just vanishes yeah it's just somehow everybody's money

just gone it's kind of a fun role game it's like I would like to at least enjoy my money no this is smart if I'm gonna lose it no no you invest in this you definitely get bang bang bang think about the future you won't have to work it's like yeah but what if 2008 happened everybody I heard everybody lost all their money no it's like no we got it thanks a lot mortgage companies

yeah that guy's playing the airdrums. Fucking big banks. Triple A bonds. He knew it was. Triple B bonds. Great movie. When they were...

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All right, let's wrap up this glorious Thursday with a couple, oh, no, shall we? A couple oh, noes as we are up against a hard out here. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. George Pickens was golfing with the Dallas Cowboys, and I think it needs to be watched just to understand what one of the most athletic people whoever exists does with a golf club

but also how tight the Dallas Cowboys are. Let's listen in. Who's that guy? I survive. Okay, who's the guy standing front left right in front of the T-box? We need to get him out of there. My goodness.

You need to get him. What do we do? I don't like how reckless they are, potentially with T-box etiquette and where to stand, potentially with a not-good golfer. but I do like that all the boys are out there laughing, having a good time, and they're comfortable enough with each other, they'll stand right in front of a guy

that can't drive a golf ball. I like where the Cowboys are. He might fall off the cliff too. You get hit by a ball and fall off the cliff. Yeah, I mean, just worst case scenario for guy front left there. GP, Wood, hop back on the saddle, and blast one. Okay, did pipe one.

Yeah, because he's obviously an incredible athlete, but certainly an oh, no, as we look around. And then there's a couple highlights that need to be. Nine home runs were here. in the game this year. What? This week. Nine.

The Cubs hit nine home. Nine? Nine of them. You want big bombs? Well, the Chicago Cubs got nine of them for it. Bang. Bang, bang, bang. It ended on a 40-mile-an-hour floater.

Oh, nice. As we wrap up here and head into the greatest weekend we've had in a long time because college football is about to kick off in a huge way. Be live on college game day. 9 a.m. Eastern, Saturday morning. That feels good to say. We'll see him Baton Rouge. Be a friend, tell her friends

something nice and might change our life. Have the greatest weekend of all time. Goodbye. Okay, pretty good little sendoff. Yeah. Man, Baton Rouge.

Operator, what you put me on through? Gotta send my love down to Baton Rouge. Hurry on. And I'm going to put me on a line. Got to say my love one more time. That is sick

just to think about. What's the forecast? Like 72, the high? No, yeah. There's some tropical storms down there. I guess it's going to be pretty thick. You know, I think you're not that Louisiana isn't normally pretty thick, but I guess it's going to be pretty thick down there.

And hopefully there isn't any storms that come through. Obviously, we've got a celebration to have. But if it's raining down there, I think that adds to the entire football scene. I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. 93 here. We shouldn't act like going outside up here right now. Hawk, I'm assuming it's the same in Ohio. It's hot as fuck everywhere.

And I honestly think it's awesome. Okay, it's September. We are two months away from being like, fuck, this sucks. All right. I like that you like the heat right now. I truly do. Like even just sitting outside, it's like, you know what? It could be worse.

It could be fucking 30 degrees. You got called in yesterday from sitting outside to do the fantasy football draft. That took about an hour and a half, two hours. I didn't know you guys were making so many picks. So who ended up with the best team? Is there a power ranking? There actually are. There are.

To Mike Hawk, which is AJ's team, his team is very high in the power rankings. I do believe Ty, who was actually incapacist. for the entire draft. So the computer, he was auto-drafted. Oh, the computer-ranged itself is the highest-st-strap. He ended up with the number one team at the power rankings. And, yeah, there's Mike Hawk right there. And also Zito, Indiana Bears.

Also an auto-draft. Ended up with the number two team. Oh, the computer likes its own picks. Yes, it does. It does feel like the auto-drafters here had a little bit of a success story. But that's the thing about fantasy football. It's a baseball game. Bingo.

And that never works out how it ends up being at the end of the end of year. P.N. Okay, so let's go through some of the names here because I can only see portion of Mike Hawk right there is obviously one. Evans Excel. Excellent team. Yeah, I haven't named my team. Yeah, it's still workshop. He loves Microsoft Excel. Okay, yeah, that's what I thought maybe. If we could go through the team names, uh, shogging down bears. I like that. Shuckin. Like a play on Tyler Schuck's name. Yeah, Tyler, you got it. Bruce's baloney boppers. Yep. That's a pretty good game meal. The Mduke men. Yeah. Men, obviously.

Who's that? That's Nick, Nicky Skates. Okay, I like Medukeman. Giggsie Baby. That is, Tone Giggs. Don't eat gigs, baby. Okay, I like that. Giggsie baby.

Don't talk to me about heritage. That's a kind of ode to McGee from Tashmitt. That's Tysmith. Okay. Gordo gang? That's Gertie. Oh, okay. House of Butler?

Oh, he's really into the house of the thing. Dragon. Yeah, he's really into it. His team fucking sucks, unfortunately. I saw him take a couple laps trying to figure out who he was going to pick. Yeah. You guys were really heckling him. This is his first time he's taking it serious.

I think we should maybe understand that because you guys were trying to bully him out of last night. He took two running backs, which, you know, you only have to start two, but if one of them get hurt or if one of them are on a buy week, he doesn't have a full lineup to start. So it's tough. So he's going to have to make some trades. But he heard running back's the most important position, maybe one of them will get hurt heading into the season. So we not only have the House of Butler team, we also. have as he headed to the roster. Bubba Gompino

like that. Yeah, just classic. Solid squad. Yeah, this is what, the bone zone. Yeah. Who's the bone zone? That would be the bone, de bone. Titties himself. I thought it was potentially Bailey McComis because Bailey McComis is the bone zone. Like when you think of, you think

the bones. Yeah, yeah. That's where he lived. Mike Hawk, self-explanatory. TikTok on the clock. Shout out talk. That's a good name on there. He also allegedly very good fantasy footballer. Very good fantasy football player. It's one of those things where it doesn't make any sense, but somehow he always pulls it out. Well,

he added a six minute video down to a three minute video in two and a half minutes today. Exactly. I know how he did that. Certainly, he's impressive. The Indiana Bears, okay, that's Zidi? That Zee. Yep. Okay, I like that he's pushing maybe for a new name. He's good with it. I like that because he lives here, so maybe we get

the Shibububbies team. Shabububis? Yeah, that is the worst myth. Mitt McMahon, I believe. Mitt? Yeah, I believe that is admit. Shabooboos. So it's like, one. I couldn't even think to get in his brain at what, what it means.

Does that supposed to be shabuzi? Or shaboo? It could be shibboosy. No, it's just because he thinks boobs are great, probably. So instead of like shabang, it's like shaboboobies. Yeah, I think so. I do think that, AJ. AJ, it is funny that you think I think that boobies are great and I do, but it's actually a play

on something, I assume. We don't know. Jab boobies. Where is he? are you near a microphone, pal? What is Shibubi's a play on Shaboozy? Or is it just play on Shabang? Or is it a play on?

I just like boobs, man. I was listening to a Shibuzi song, and this just came in my head while I was making my name. He's an artist. He's funny. Boobies. He actually probably heard Shibuzzi's name said, and he was like, did he say boobies?

That's a clever name, though, actually. I'm going to do that. Shibubis, obviously, right above Seal Team Nix. Now, you know who that is. since bone zone's taken from D-Bone. Okay, Bill would definitely get the seals in there. I appreciate that. Shout out the Knicks being utilized in a seal team thing.

And then Evans' excellent team. I just haven't had any time to think of a clever name. Keep it. I mean, that is pretty clever. I think he called myself AJ's astounding team before. E. E. E. E. E. That's real. I like that.

So you're the EET. Yeah, let's go with it. Sweet. And then in the trend. That's AQ Shepley? That is Akew Shippling. He has a very formidable team, actually. He was very nervous after the draft.

He was like, hey, that was my first one. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Is my team okay? And he actually does have a great team. You guys, there's already been a trade request. Yeah. Yeah, and that's up to you, commission. You're the commissioner of the league so you can kind of.

You got to approve it or not. You know, let people know what's going on. I like action. I like trades. Absolutely. Sounds like a couple of the team's owners don't like it. I believe there's already been a couple people who have voted to would veto this particular

trade that Bone initiated alongside SEAL team next bill this morning. So I would like to let everybody know in my if I am to be a running league. Yes, what you are? More trades better. I want K.O. Okay. If you're able to get somebody to agree to a deal,

that's on you guys. And this trade is fine. Push the trade through. I just got to put, can I go on there and ask to trade somebody? You could. You're going to accept it? Yeah. No, we would have to, we're approving every single trade, of course. Yeah. And the other team has to accept it. It's not like you can ask for my best players and Pat can say yes. Like I would have to accept it. Then

Pat can approve it and we can push it. If you two lads figure out your own business and agree on a deal who would I be to say no? Not going to ever do that. I agree. Got to look out for collusion though, Mr. Commissioner. There are a lot of teams in this league. A lot of horses might be out of the race pretty early. We got to make sure

there isn't some keying up going. We will certainly keep our eyes on any potential tanking and supporting of other teams that might take place in the Thunders, Draft Kings, Thunderdome, Thunder League. Yes, and that's also on us, too, as owners. This is our league. We can't just let collusion come into it. You have a final say, but we have to police ourselves in some.

This is your league. These are our rules. Okay. We love them. That's back soon. How many players did you draft Hoggo? Because we were kind of confused. Sometimes you did pick a guy

and then other times it felt like you let the computer take the wheel. Oh, really? I picked my first two, and then I trusted Sweet Blake in the computer. Sweet Blake trusted the computer a little bit too much. From our understanding. He loved that computer. We've been on top of the AI story since very beginning. You're right.

You're honest. Sweet Blake. AI experts right now don't even know what we're talking about. That male is in love. Is that man alive? Definitely. Yeah. He's half a little bomb.

He hasn't left his computer. He's three kids with that computer. Yeah. He's just a part of it now. They're one. 3D printing them things. Yeah. Like this, right?

Yeah. We've got a dick and a server for two years. We don't think physically he's actually doing that. I actually don't know. Mentally, he probably built a flashlight thing into a stack of... That's what people were saying about him, and I didn't like that because he was so invested in the future of society that he really wanted everybody to know. Like, hey, these things are getting feelings and I'm getting feelings, too. Yeah.

I got to step away. Shots Sweet Blake doing that. Maybe more people should potentially think about doing that in the AI world. Made a movie about it. They're pushing it a little bit to what movie in there. Her? Oh, is that Joaquin? Skargo.

He falls in love with Scrois. Was it good? No, I've never seen it. I haven't seen it. Waukeen hates milk. Hates milk. Oh, goodness. That guy hates killing cows.

Well, separating cows from their milk. Yes. He's a vegan? I don't know. I think he's like, I don't know. No. He actually what happens if you don't milk a dairy cow? What happened?

They're their teeth. They pop like balloons. Yeah. Explode everywhere. He gave an answer. He gave an answer about that, about that interview. It had something to do with like his brother or something. I don't know.

It had a very sentimental meaning not to do with the cast. Well, I, walking in Phoenix, the artist, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's a beast. You're in the middle of your artistry. You got to do it. That's fucking Napoleon.

All right. Let's get the hell out of here. said down to Baton Rouge. Hey, good luck, man. Let's go. Hey, have fun. Yeah. I think it's going to be a good time.

I think it's going to be a blast hour. Fucking awesome time. Lany Wilson performing, too. That's a big deal. That's going to be sweet. Most. If you see Lane, tell him, tell him,

tell him, I ain't his fucking friend. I heard someone say that we're friends of the program. He ain't a fucking friend of mine. Tell him I said that. Tell him, I was a huge fucking fan. He broke my heart. Yeah, and I got your back.

Me too. Really? Yeah. He ain't no friend of mine. I'm a Kirby smart. No friend of his is no friend of mine. What? I got his back.

If you're not a friend of his, you're not a friend of mine. Bingo. You said no friend of his is a friend of mine. That's kind of the opposite you're talking about. Yeah, everybody knew. Kirby, Ryan Day, Dan Lanny. Boom. Those are our guys.

Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman. Cigney. Cristobal. Seig. Mario. Cristoball. Fuck that guy.

That's how a lot of. people feel man i was i'm not kidding a year ago right now i was pulling for olmiss to win the national championship he sucked in and now fuck it sucked you done too you're in there too i mean if i face to face i tell him i love him but i want it this is one of those things right back yeah we're you really yes absolutely i feel like you feel like you feel personally hurt by like kiffin it's not even personally hurt it's more like i'm bummed that Okay, so it's disappointment. It's disappointment.

It's complete disappointment. It was like, man, I can see this guy having a statue outside of Ole Miss like Sabin does outside of Alabama. And instead, they want to piss on him if he was on fire. Pete Golden. All right, let's get out of here. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. If it wasn't for all of you, wouldn't be able to do this. I'll tell you what, the new traffic flow outside of Thunderdome is.

something. It's actually kind of nice. Yeah, it's quiet. It's so quiet. Then there's like a, you know, a string of like 14 cars coming right down the middle of this neighborhood over here. Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder how they feel just, oh, great. We've got just plowing through our neighborhood now as the roundabout gets built into place. Allegedly yesterday, we had police stop by around 5 o'clockish or so,

515, and said, hey, do you have a camera shooting out to the roundabout? I'm like, I don't think so, man. We have it to the gate or whatever, you know, so we can see if somebody's here or whatever. But I have why. He goes, I guess some drunk driver yesterday came through this like 90 miles an hour or whatever, rolling on just hubcaps or whatever, just the rims, no wheels in the afternoon rolling through here. It's like, damn, pretty dangerous operation we got around. Can you wreck?

Yeah, wrecked. Got arrested. Big time. Oh, jeez. I guess there was a pretty big little situation out here. I didn't hear any of it. And that's what I knew that that's not good. Guy was getting 90 miles an hour into the construction site literally 200 yards outside

I didn't hear any of that. I was on a call. Fortress is solid, too. Soundproof. I guess, but I'll tell you what, they can certainly affect what's going on out here. Shout to the construction workers out there doing everything today. We appreciate you, lads. Cushing it.

Crushing it. Absolutely crushing it. We appreciate them doing this work in this heat. But also, it seems like they're operating very efficiently. We respect and appreciate that as they get after it out here. Are you okay, Tony? It seemed like you were getting real excited to say something, but then he backed off the microphone. Yep.

I'm going to keep it that way. You got it. Thank you. We will see you. What had to do with, Tone? What was the top of? AJ, we're on the exit ramp here. I'll text you after.

My bad. I do like the journalism follow up, though. What's Bobby Carpenter up to? What do you mean? He got done run 20 half gasters a couple weeks ago. He's pissed that people were talking shit on that linebacker room. Really? Oh, yeah.

He is very. I wouldn't say people. Bob will respond to one randomly and act like the world's attack in the whole room. I like that. You need that, you know. I agree. Somebody finding chips put on the shoulder. I certainly like people that do that, especially for a football season as it goes forward.

How old is he now? He's 40. 43. And he ran. How many gassers? 20-half gasserers. That was our college test. He runs in the same time, same rest time as we do back then.

Every birthday year. This year, it felt like he was the most. Most unprepared. Yeah, like it was the back nine. Yeah, and he did it. felt like he was like, oh, I see it now. And what he quoted Schlegel. He said something.

He said, bang, bang, Anthony Schlegel. Something, it was a good quote. Schlegs has like 50 of them, so I don't know which one. Bobby Carpenter's name popped up in the text yesterday as I was on like two different calls. And I just got like so excited. I don't know how many people's names pop up in text messages where I just get like immediately, yes, can't wait to see what this is. There's a handful.

That was first time, long time. I saw Robert Carpenter pop up on the phone and I was like, yes. What the fuck is this guy up to right now? This is him, this is previous. Yeah, it's a couple years ago. That's his 40-year-old run, I think. Yeah, this is 41 maybe, 20-23. No, maybe 40.

This was his 40th. He looked good. He was preparing for his 40th, I think. 43, he did not prepare for as much. Remember, this guy's a morning talk show in Columbus. Yep. Okay, 6 a.m., probably 5 a.m. Wake-up call.

He's 43 years old, running a test that, 18, 19 year olds who were in the prime of their life getting pushed harder than they've ever been pushed before and he's still doing it. We're proud of Bobby. We're proud of old Robert. And thank you for being a hilarious human. And AJ,

what were you dressed up as? There was some Patriot game thing that you were at. We had our charity event. Had our charity event. Yeah. I was like an American. Back in the day, American. Just refuses to invite. Again. Refuses. I've invited you guys many.

I'm not hoggle. This is a quick turn around. Nice, hoggle. I didn't even get an invite to this thing. I saw it, a pop on his screen. I love America. And I see AJ dressed up the way he is. If we can find that photo, if you find A.J.

dressed up the way he was dressed on all these ID. Yeah. And is this the, is this, when was this? Was mine? A couple weeks ago. This was a couple weeks ago. Thanks, Captain Crunch. I'll tell you what.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We invited you guys many times. No, you know. Come on, man. That's a bold face line. Listen, we've been reading it all over the internet. There's a lot of people that don't want to invite us to their stuff.

Yeah, I get it. Sure. There's people we're friends with we thought that were just like, the hell with these people. So we understand it. Believe me, we understand more than anybody. Just know that we're all bummed out. We missed out on seeing you in real life dress like this. This is what we need to start seeing more of.

You see it. Yeah. I understand it because a lot of times I want to invite, like, you guys over. But then, like, I don't want to invite some of the people in here over. So then nobody gets an invite. So it's not, you know, I think we're at the process where if I, If an invite is more of like, why, why would you invite me to this? That's what it's like.

No. What? Don't ever get to that point of life, especially if friends, we'd be honored. Okay, good. Honestly, I feel like a, you know, like a, a old ball and chain if I send something to you or a burden. If you try to ask you to come like, oh, man, this person is going to have to feel bad saying no, no. I don't like, I don't like doing that. No, I don't think you should think that we feel bad saying no.

I think everybody kind of understands that we're pretty busy and we got a lot of shit going on. But, man, seeing the invite feels good. See the invite. We make the trip for you. I took it the other way. No, seeing the invite feels like we're invited. Okay. Like people want it.

Yeah. Because think about all the things that have been said about me and about us over the last. It would have been really nice to get invited to AJ's event after everything. Especially when you get to dress up like Mel Gibson and the Patriot. The fun we had at his birthday party that time. I'll never forget it. Yeah. I appreciate it.

That was. Thank you. Bruce robbed the hotel. I mean, how could I ever forget the good time? All right. Maybe. There's something going on. There's something going on outside.

You got to go check it out. Be a friend, tell her friend. Something nice of my chance. your life for in this thing together. We appreciate all of you so much. Team on me. Team on three. Have the greatest weekend of all time, maybe. One, two, three.

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